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| a5benwillis | ello | 01:04 |
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| Athanasius | can someone help me set up my dhcp server in edubuntu | 05:21 |
| Athanasius | I have everything set but I am not sure what to set the ip addresses to on the second network card | 05:24 |
| Athanasius | anyone here? | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | I'm here but I can't really help you much | 05:29 |
| Athanasius | oh ok. Have you installed edubuntu? | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | I have in vmware | 05:34 |
| Athanasius | have you gotten the server to work? | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | yes | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | but to be honest it just worked, I didn't have to set anything up | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | you might try looking through http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ | 05:35 |
| Athanasius | oh really.. that is my problem, it is't just working for me. I have to modify the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file | 05:36 |
| LaserJock | and maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LTSPServerSetup | 05:36 |
| Athanasius | I will look at those, thanks | 05:38 |
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| LaserJock | morning highvoltage | 07:37 |
| Burgundavia | hey highvoltage, LaserJock | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | hi Burgundavia | 07:40 |
| willvdl | moo-o-o-orning | 08:05 |
| highvoltage | hey LaserJock and Burgundavia | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | and willvdl :) | 08:18 |
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| willvdl | dude. gonna be hard to work in this weather :) | 08:19 |
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| cyrix | hi | 10:41 |
| happywithed | I need some urgent help!!! Please! | 10:41 |
| cyrix | then tell us ;) | 10:41 |
| happywithed | I restarted my Classroom server and the users can't login from the thin clients anymore | 10:41 |
| cyrix | all nessary daemons running? | 10:42 |
| happywithed | I can see the users on the server under Users and Groups, but the client's can't authenticate | 10:42 |
| happywithed | What daemons should I checke and how? | 10:42 |
| happywithed | The thin clients can connect to the server because I can see the login window | 10:43 |
| cyrix | ok, other problem | 10:43 |
| cyrix | any IP change on the network? | 10:43 |
| happywithed | but even with the administrator account I can't login | 10:43 |
| happywithed | Not that I know | 10:43 |
| happywithed | I have my server running on one card | 10:43 |
| willvdl | anything in log mesages? | 10:44 |
| cyrix | Any failure message? | 10:44 |
| happywithed | What was that pastebin link? | 10:44 |
| happywithed | let me see | 10:44 |
| willvdl | irc header | 10:44 |
| willvdl | oh, maybe nt | 10:45 |
| cyrix | i have some problems to, i set up a amd64 edubuntu server, and now only the 64bit kernel is availibe in the ltsp boot directory | 10:45 |
| cyrix | so my old celerons clients can't connect | 10:46 |
| willvdl | can't you have a 32bit image in the chroot? | 10:47 |
| cyrix | no | 10:47 |
| cyrix | i can't find the package name for the 32bit kernel images | 10:47 |
| willvdl | ah | 10:47 |
| happywithed | I can't see any problems, except one in the daemon.log along the lines of: tftp: client does not accept options | 10:52 |
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| cyrix | should be not the problem | 10:54 |
| RIchEd | happywithed: try asking in #ltsp as well ? | 10:56 |
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| happywithed | the ltsp is working fine. I suspect ldap. I was trying to back it up last night and I might have indavertently turned it off or deleted or something | 10:57 |
| happywithed | Anyone here with ldap expertise? | 10:58 |
| happywithed | for instance how do I check that ldap is working properly? | 10:58 |
| cyrix | ldapsearch | 11:04 |
| happywithed | cyrix: I am installing ldapsearch now | 11:06 |
| happywithed | I installed it, read the man page, but can't run it because I forgot my ldap password | 11:13 |
| happywithed | Do you know how I can reset it? | 11:13 |
| cyrix | no, sorry | 11:16 |
| cyrix | but, i think google will show some guides for that | 11:17 |
| cyrix | i just find via google my solution to the i386 problem: ltsp-build-client --arch i386 ;) | 11:17 |
| willvdl | ah, that's what I meant by a 32bit image | 11:43 |
| cyrix | it works ;) | 11:46 |
| cyrix | vm-ware is booting over network | 11:47 |
| ogra | cyrix, man ltsp-build-client would have saved you bandwith ;) | 11:47 |
| cyrix | now i hope that the system boots with the 64bit-smp kernel | 11:49 |
| ogra | not if you used --arch i386 :) | 11:50 |
| ogra | that will give the clients the -i386 kernel | 11:50 |
| cyrix | i administrate the school from home, and when it stops booting like last time, i have a problem ;) | 11:50 |
| cyrix | jep, but the server has a DualCore cpu and a not smp kernel was installed by default | 11:51 |
| ogra | i'm talkking about the client | 11:51 |
| cyrix | i know | 11:51 |
| ogra | the server kernel has nothing to do with the client at all | 11:51 |
| cyrix | i use to test the client functionaility a VM-ware server | 11:51 |
| ogra | its using the kernel from /opt/ltsp/i386/boot | 11:51 |
| ogra | which is a -i386 one :) | 11:52 |
| cyrix | yes, i need a 386 kernel for the clients | 11:52 |
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| cyrix | mosts of the future clients are 166mhz Pentium and older P2 ones | 11:52 |
| cyrix | wich are currently running with Win2k. fast is someone differnt ;) | 11:53 |
| cyrix | I first wanted to use a Win2k3 Terminal Server, but only the Terminal Server Licencse cost about 1800Euro | 11:53 |
| cyrix | each client has to use a 18Euro Client Terminal License, so i decidet to use Linux ;) | 11:54 |
| willvdl | don't the kernels do smp on demand? I don't run SMP specific kernel on my core duo | 11:54 |
| cyrix | root@igs-srv2:~# uname -r | 11:55 |
| cyrix | 2.6.20-16-server | 11:55 |
| cyrix | just looking what proccpu says | 11:55 |
| cyrix | k, both cores are listet | 11:56 |
| willvdl | yeah, sounds right | 12:02 |
| cyrix | hmm, vm-ware stands still blinking | 12:04 |
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| cyrix | lets debug ;) | 12:08 |
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| cyrix | the question is, where is the problem: vmware or ltsp | 12:22 |
| cyrix | vmware stops booting after the edubuntu logo appears. | 12:23 |
| ogra | drop the splash keyword from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default | 12:24 |
| ogra | and quiet as well | 12:24 |
| ogra | then it will be more verbose | 12:24 |
| cyrix | thanks | 12:25 |
| cyrix | i love debbung without any messages ;) | 12:25 |
| cyrix | debuging | 12:25 |
| cyrix | it stops at :"IP-Config: eth0 hardware address [MAC] mtu 1500 DHCP RARP | 12:28 |
| cyrix | seems to be a rarp problem | 12:29 |
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| cyrix | after a timeout it repeats the ip-config line | 12:30 |
| cyrix | sorry for my bad english :) | 12:30 |
| ogra | that means it doesnt find the server to mount the rootfs | 12:30 |
| ogra | cyrix, we can go to #edubuntu-de :) | 12:31 |
| cyrix | nfsmount need a path | 12:31 |
| ogra | if that helps you :) | 12:31 |
| cyrix | gut ;) | 12:31 |
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| cyrix | have someone expirence how many users a DualCore 2,8Ghz can handle? | 12:55 |
| cyrix | e.g. a classrom with 15 PCs while all students are surfing with firefox | 12:56 |
| willvdl | what RAM you got? | 01:02 |
| cyrix | 2GB DDR2 800 | 01:03 |
| willvdl | I imagine you'd get 20 clients running alright, as long as they don't all try and open OO.o at the same time or do a blender-render | 01:04 |
| cyrix | good | 01:04 |
| cyrix | As Client i want to use 166Mhz Pentium 1 PCs with 32MB Ram | 01:05 |
| ogra | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/HardwareRequirements | 01:05 |
| ogra | its linked from the FAQ (see topic) | 01:05 |
| ogra | 32 is way to low | 01:05 |
| ogra | the kernel alone needs 36 | 01:06 |
| ogra | you can boot a client with 48M if you use network swap ... | 01:06 |
| cyrix | okay | 01:06 |
| ogra | you can use it standalone without swapping from 64M on | 01:06 |
| ogra | gutsy lowers that requirements significantly though | 01:07 |
| willvdl | ogra, would prelinking make have much effect on a thin client system? | 01:07 |
| cyrix | Currently, our Internet Surf Room at School uses 166mhz PCs with 32MB and Win2k... in Web2.0 time, its realy slow ;) | 01:07 |
| ogra | willvdl, sadly thst something that bites with nfs as well as squashfs | 01:08 |
| cyrix | 10 to 15 Minuts only booting the windows system | 01:08 |
| willvdl | cyrix, web2.0 implies dynamic sites which is mainly server-side. What connection do you have? | 01:08 |
| cyrix | DSL 786 | 01:09 |
| ogra | willvdl, i'd use readahed if i could (similar to prelinking, loads all needed files to ram first) but it produces kernel oppses on squashfs and slows down nfs a lot | 01:09 |
| willvdl | and nbd? | 01:09 |
| ogra | is only a low level protocol | 01:09 |
| ogra | you need a filesystem on top | 01:09 |
| ogra | (which is squashfs in our case) | 01:10 |
| ogra | nbd actually creates block devices that are exported to the network ... like a physical HD | 01:10 |
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| cyrix | thanks for your help guys. Now i have to make a script wich adds the user to the domain system... on linux easy, on windows work for a weekend ;) | 01:28 |
| humbolto | ogra: Is the SSH encryption NONE option available in gusty now? | 01:29 |
| ogra | no, we implemented that differently | 01:29 |
| ogra | but there is an unencrypted X mode, yes | 01:29 |
| ogra | set LDM_DIRECTX=True in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf | 01:30 |
| ogra | (note that lts.conf is read by tftp now, it moved) | 01:30 |
| ogra | with LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD a trivial autologin mode was added as well | 01:31 |
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| cyrix | in lts.conf i only add LDM_USERNAME=schueler and LDM_PASSWORD=schueler and the system will autologin? | 01:38 |
| ogra | in gutsy, yes | 01:43 |
| ogra | but note that gutsy is far from being production ready | 01:44 |
| ogra | especially ldm that just gets rewritten completely | 01:45 |
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| cyrix | k | 01:53 |
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| Athanasius | for edubuntu, am I supposed to set my router to DHCP mode or static IP? | 07:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Athanasius, does your server do dhcp? is it an ltsp server, or did you just install a workstation? | 07:13 |
| Athanasius | I installed the ltsp server and I have 2 network cards, one for the router to go into the server and the other NIC to go out to the clinents | 07:15 |
| Athanasius | I have not been able to get thin clients to boot | 07:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sure you have the correct networks connected (ie sure you have the clients plugged into the network running dhcp? | 07:16 |
| Athanasius | I guess that I am not sure. I got a second NIC like the edubuntu guide recommended. I figured that when I installed the operating system that it would know what to do and configure properly | 07:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm not sure it does, but i havent used it in the way your describing, so i dont know | 07:18 |
| Athanasius | for instance the eth0 is from the modem via the router and eth1 goes out from the server to the clients | 07:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Athanasius, hae you tried plugging the other network cable into the clients to see if it boots them? what stage do the clients fail at? | 07:20 |
| Athanasius | I boot the clients and they say "no disk inserted, hit enter" I selected them to boot to the network from the BIOS | 07:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sorry, afk 5-10 min. bbs | 07:22 |
| Athanasius | no prob | 07:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Athanasius, can you open a terminal up? | 07:26 |
| Athanasius | sure | 07:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and type `ps aux |grep dhc` | 07:27 |
| Athanasius | want me to paste output? | 07:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | if its 2 or 3 lines here is fine | 07:27 |
| Athanasius | it is about 4 | 07:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thats ok | 07:28 |
| Athanasius | root 5064 0.0 0.0 1940 700 ? Ss 09:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system | 07:28 |
| Athanasius | dhcpd 5799 0.0 0.0 2940 1324 ? Ss 09:51 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf | 07:28 |
| Athanasius | sysadmin 10646 0.0 0.0 2884 768 pts/0 S+ 13:27 0:00 grep dhc | 07:28 |
| Athanasius | does it look like everything is ok? | 07:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mine specifies eth0, but otherwise yours looks fine. dhcp is definitely running | 07:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Athanasius, i'm checking stuff on a work server before i ask you to do it, so theres little lags involved | 07:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | could you `grep subnet /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf` | 07:30 |
| Athanasius | yup | 07:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and `ifconfig |grep eth -A1` | 07:31 |
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| Athanasius | subnet 192.168.000.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { | 07:31 |
| Athanasius | option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; | 07:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | more 0's then i'm used to, but i assume thats ok. | 07:32 |
| Athanasius | no response from the last command (ifconfig etc.) | 07:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | really? could you pastebin the output of `ifconfig` | 07:33 |
| Athanasius | I just get the prompt again, that is all | 07:34 |
| Athanasius | what is pastebin? | 07:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sounds like you dont have networking running | 07:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !pastebin | 07:34 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 07:34 |
| Athanasius | oh, hold on | 07:34 |
| Athanasius | I typed it in wrong, sorry | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | here is the output | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:20:2D:1B:DD | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | -- | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:0C:C6:66:35 | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 07:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah, theres a problem | 07:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | eth0 is misconfigured. | 07:35 |
| Athanasius | sorry ;) | 07:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and both interfaces are on the same ip address | 07:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Athanasius, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces | 07:36 |
| Athanasius | I will try gimme a minute | 07:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Athanasius, cat /etc/network/interfaces, and copy+patste is probably the quickets way | 07:37 |
| Athanasius | # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | # The loopback network interface | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | auto lo | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | iface lo inet loopback | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | # The primary network interface | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | auto eth0 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | iface eth0 inet static | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | address 192.168.0.101 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | network 192.168.1.0 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | broadcast 192.168.1.255 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | gateway 192.168.0.1 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | iface eth1 inet static | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | address 192.168.0.101 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 07:39 |
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| Athanasius | gateway 192.168.0.1 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | auto eth1 | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | iface eth2 inet dhcp | 07:39 |
| Athanasius | auto eth2 | 07:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. that was a pastebin moment ;) | 07:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just a tic. | 07:40 |
| Athanasius | oh, sorry | 07:40 |
| Athanasius | aha, now I know how pastebin works.. I will be sure to use it the next time | 07:43 |
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| kgoetz | if my connection drops one more fucking time, i'll be unhappy | 07:44 |
| kgoetz | Athanasius: whats the last message you got from me? | 07:44 |
| Athanasius | "just a tic" | 07:44 |
| kgoetz | <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, which network is meant to be 192.168.1.0? | 07:45 |
| kgoetz | <Kamping_Kaiser> eth0 or eth1? | 07:45 |
| kgoetz | <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, and which is supposed to be connected to clients? | 07:45 |
| Athanasius | kogoetz: sorry, I mean "if my connection drops one more... | 07:45 |
| Athanasius | eth 1 goes to the clients | 07:46 |
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| kgoetz | Athanasius: ok. and does your modem give you addresses by dhcp? | 07:46 |
| Athanasius | I guess I am not sure which one | 07:46 |
| kgoetz | for your internet facing connection? | 07:47 |
| Athanasius | the modem can give address by DHCP, | 07:47 |
| kgoetz | does it /right now/? | 07:47 |
| Athanasius | yes | 07:47 |
| Athanasius | eth0 goes to the router & modem | 07:48 |
| Athanasius | is eth1 supposed to set for DHCP? | 07:49 |
| kgoetz | eth1 is supposed to be static | 07:49 |
| kgoetz | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27806/ | 07:49 |
| kgoetz | something like that | 07:49 |
| kgoetz | bounce the server (for your ease) then hope it works. | 07:50 |
| `6og | sound sane? | 07:51 |
| Athanasius | should I copy that into my file? | 07:51 |
| kgoetz | only if it looks like what you want | 07:51 |
| kgoetz | and if you remove your existing content. | 07:51 |
| Athanasius | oh, I see. | 07:51 |
| Athanasius | bounce the server? | 07:51 |
| kgoetz | btw. | 07:51 |
| Athanasius | i feel like bouncing it out the window | 07:52 |
| kgoetz | sure the gateway is 0.1? not 1.1? gateway 192.168.0.1 | 07:52 |
| kgoetz | bounce=restart | 07:52 |
| Athanasius | I can change the gateway to whatever on the router | 07:52 |
| Athanasius | it can be 0.1 or 1.1 | 07:52 |
| kgoetz | make it 1.something | 07:52 |
| Athanasius | ok | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | 0.something will cause things to stop working | 07:53 |
| Athanasius | and then the server DHCP is 0 | 07:53 |
| Athanasius | is that right? | 07:53 |
| Athanasius | 0.1 | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | the server is on 192.168.0.something | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | currently, 101 | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | according to that configuration | 07:53 |
| Athanasius | ok | 07:53 |
| kgoetz | it can be whatever | 07:53 |
| Athanasius | if I get all that straightened out I should be able to boot the clients then? | 07:54 |
| kgoetz | yes, hopefully | 07:54 |
| Athanasius | thank you very much for your help!! I am grateful. | 07:54 |
| Athanasius | I will tinker with this for a while | 07:55 |
| kgoetz | hope it works, i'm off to bed | 07:55 |
| kgoetz | Sat Jun 30 03:25:09 CST 2007 | 07:55 |
| kgoetz | past my bedtime ;) | 07:55 |
| Athanasius | yikes, where are you? | 07:55 |
| kgoetz | australia | 07:55 |
| Athanasius | I was there once, Melbourne, beautiful country | 07:55 |
| kgoetz | :) | 07:56 |
| kgoetz | hope to catch you arround, perhaps more in my timezone ;) | 07:56 |
| Athanasius | thanks again | 07:56 |
| kgoetz | np | 07:56 |
| cliebow | Athanasius, your machine will be Really confused if you have two interfaces on the same network.. | 07:56 |
| cliebow | heh\ | 07:57 |
| `6og | *grin* | 07:57 |
| `6og | hopefully i straitened him out a bit :| | 07:57 |
| `6og | good luck mate, catch you then | 07:57 |
| cliebow | thanks | 07:58 |
| cliebow | 8~) | 07:58 |
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| Deamion | Hi | 08:30 |
| Deamion | I have a question. I installed edubuntu server and I got the error could not build LTSP chroot and was wondering why | 08:30 |
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| Deamion | exit | 09:17 |
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| flubber | Can anybody help me my sound doesn't work on my laptop | 09:23 |
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| flubber | can anybody help me? my sound doesn't work on my laptop | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | you should probably ask #ubuntu | 09:33 |
| flubber | ok thanks | 09:34 |
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| andrupal | Need some help putting together a hardware order for a mixed thin/thick client network, mixed Ubuntu / Windows environment. Can anyone offer advice? | 10:44 |
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| andrupal | Need some help putting together a hardware order for a mixed thin/thick client network, mixed Ubuntu / Windows environment. Can anyone offer advice? | 11:12 |
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