[01:04] <a5benwillis> ello
[05:21] <Athanasius> can someone help me set up my dhcp server in edubuntu
[05:24] <Athanasius> I have everything set but I am not sure what to set the ip addresses to on the second network card
[05:25] <Athanasius> anyone here?
[05:29] <LaserJock> I'm here but I can't really help you much
[05:33] <Athanasius> oh ok.  Have you installed edubuntu?
[05:34] <LaserJock> I have in vmware
[05:34] <Athanasius> have you gotten the server to work?
[05:34] <LaserJock> yes
[05:35] <LaserJock> but to be honest it just worked, I didn't have to set anything up
[05:35] <LaserJock> you might try looking through http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/
[05:36] <Athanasius> oh really.. that is my problem, it is't just working for me.  I have to modify the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file
[05:36] <LaserJock> and maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LTSPServerSetup
[05:38] <Athanasius> I will look at those, thanks
[07:37] <LaserJock> morning highvoltage
[07:39] <Burgundavia> hey highvoltage, LaserJock
[07:40] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia
[08:05] <willvdl> moo-o-o-orning
[08:18] <highvoltage> hey LaserJock and Burgundavia
[08:18] <highvoltage> and willvdl :)
[08:19] <willvdl> dude. gonna be hard to work in this weather :)
[10:41] <cyrix> hi
[10:41] <happywithed> I need some urgent help!!! Please!
[10:41] <cyrix> then tell us ;)
[10:41] <happywithed> I restarted my Classroom server and the users can't login from the thin clients anymore
[10:42] <cyrix> all nessary daemons  running?
[10:42] <happywithed> I can see the users on the server under Users and Groups, but the client's can't authenticate
[10:42] <happywithed> What daemons should I checke and how?
[10:43] <happywithed> The thin clients can connect to the server because I can see the login window
[10:43] <cyrix> ok, other problem
[10:43] <cyrix> any IP change on the network?
[10:43] <happywithed> but even with the administrator account I can't login
[10:43] <happywithed> Not that I know
[10:43] <happywithed> I have my server running on one card
[10:44] <willvdl> anything in log mesages?
[10:44] <cyrix> Any failure message?
[10:44] <happywithed> What was that pastebin link?
[10:44] <happywithed> let me see
[10:44] <willvdl> irc header
[10:45] <willvdl> oh, maybe nt
[10:45] <cyrix> i have some problems to, i set up a amd64 edubuntu server, and now only the 64bit kernel is availibe in the ltsp boot directory
[10:46] <cyrix> so my old celerons clients can't connect
[10:47] <willvdl> can't you have a 32bit image in the chroot?
[10:47] <cyrix> no
[10:47] <cyrix> i can't find the package name for the 32bit kernel images
[10:47] <willvdl> ah
[10:52] <happywithed> I can't see any problems, except one in the daemon.log along the lines of: tftp: client does not accept options
[10:54] <cyrix> should be not the problem
[10:56] <RIchEd> happywithed: try asking in #ltsp as well ?
[10:57] <happywithed> the ltsp is working fine.  I suspect ldap. I was trying to back it up last night and I might have indavertently turned it off or deleted or something
[10:58] <happywithed> Anyone here with ldap expertise?
[10:58] <happywithed> for instance how do I check that ldap is working properly?
[11:04] <cyrix> ldapsearch
[11:06] <happywithed> cyrix: I am installing ldapsearch now
[11:13] <happywithed> I installed it, read the man page, but can't run it because I forgot my ldap password
[11:13] <happywithed> Do you know how I can reset it?
[11:16] <cyrix> no, sorry
[11:17] <cyrix> but, i think google will show some guides for that
[11:17] <cyrix> i just find via google my solution to the i386 problem: ltsp-build-client --arch i386  ;)
[11:43] <willvdl> ah, that's what I meant by a 32bit image
[11:46] <cyrix> it works ;)
[11:47] <cyrix> vm-ware is booting over network
[11:47] <ogra> cyrix, man ltsp-build-client would have saved you bandwith ;)
[11:49] <cyrix> now i hope that the system boots with the 64bit-smp kernel
[11:50] <ogra> not if you used --arch i386 :)
[11:50] <ogra> that will give the clients the -i386 kernel
[11:50] <cyrix> i administrate the school from home, and when it stops booting like last time, i have a problem ;)
[11:51] <cyrix> jep, but the server has a DualCore cpu and a not smp kernel was installed by default
[11:51] <ogra> i'm talkking about the client
[11:51] <cyrix> i know
[11:51] <ogra> the server kernel has nothing to do with the client at all
[11:51] <cyrix> i use to test the client functionaility a VM-ware server
[11:51] <ogra> its using the kernel from /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
[11:52] <ogra> which is a -i386 one :)
[11:52] <cyrix> yes, i need a 386 kernel for the clients
[11:52] <cyrix> mosts of the future clients are 166mhz Pentium and older P2 ones
[11:53] <cyrix> wich are currently running with Win2k. fast is someone differnt ;)
[11:53] <cyrix> I first wanted to use a Win2k3 Terminal Server, but only the Terminal Server Licencse cost about 1800Euro
[11:54] <cyrix> each client has to use a 18Euro Client Terminal License, so i decidet to use Linux ;)
[11:54] <willvdl> don't the kernels do smp on demand? I don't run SMP specific kernel on my core duo
[11:55] <cyrix> root@igs-srv2:~# uname -r
[11:55] <cyrix> 2.6.20-16-server
[11:55] <cyrix> just looking what proccpu says
[11:56] <cyrix> k, both cores are listet
[12:02] <willvdl> yeah, sounds right
[12:04] <cyrix> hmm, vm-ware stands still blinking
[12:08] <cyrix> lets debug ;)
[12:22] <cyrix> the question is, where is the problem: vmware or ltsp
[12:23] <cyrix> vmware stops booting after the edubuntu logo appears.
[12:24] <ogra> drop the splash keyword from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
[12:24] <ogra> and quiet as well
[12:24] <ogra> then it will be more verbose
[12:25] <cyrix> thanks
[12:25] <cyrix> i love debbung without any messages ;)
[12:25] <cyrix> debuging
[12:28] <cyrix> it stops at :"IP-Config: eth0 hardware address [MAC]  mtu 1500 DHCP RARP
[12:29] <cyrix> seems to be a rarp problem
[12:30] <cyrix> after a timeout it repeats the ip-config line
[12:30] <cyrix> sorry for my bad english :)
[12:30] <ogra> that means it doesnt find the server to mount the rootfs
[12:31] <ogra> cyrix, we can go to #edubuntu-de :)
[12:31] <cyrix> nfsmount need a path
[12:31] <ogra> if that helps you :)
[12:31] <cyrix> gut ;)
[12:55] <cyrix> have someone expirence how many users a DualCore 2,8Ghz can handle?
[12:56] <cyrix> e.g. a classrom with 15 PCs while all students are surfing with firefox
[01:02] <willvdl> what RAM you got?
[01:03] <cyrix> 2GB DDR2 800
[01:04] <willvdl> I imagine you'd get 20 clients running alright, as long as they don't all try and open OO.o at the same time or do a blender-render
[01:04] <cyrix> good
[01:05] <cyrix> As Client i want to use 166Mhz Pentium 1 PCs with 32MB Ram
[01:05] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/HardwareRequirements
[01:05] <ogra> its linked from the FAQ (see topic)
[01:05] <ogra> 32 is way to low
[01:06] <ogra> the kernel alone needs 36
[01:06] <ogra> you can boot a client with 48M if you use network swap ...
[01:06] <cyrix> okay
[01:06] <ogra> you can use it standalone without swapping from 64M on
[01:07] <ogra> gutsy lowers that requirements significantly though
[01:07] <willvdl> ogra, would prelinking make have much effect on a thin client system?
[01:07] <cyrix> Currently, our Internet Surf Room at School uses 166mhz PCs with 32MB and Win2k... in Web2.0 time, its realy slow ;)
[01:08] <ogra> willvdl, sadly thst something that bites with nfs as well as squashfs
[01:08] <cyrix> 10 to 15 Minuts only booting the windows system
[01:08] <willvdl> cyrix, web2.0 implies dynamic sites which is mainly server-side. What connection do you have?
[01:09] <cyrix> DSL 786
[01:09] <ogra> willvdl, i'd use readahed if i could (similar to prelinking, loads all needed files to ram first) but it produces kernel oppses on squashfs and slows down nfs a lot
[01:09] <willvdl> and nbd?
[01:09] <ogra> is only a low level protocol
[01:09] <ogra> you need a filesystem on top
[01:10] <ogra> (which is squashfs in our case)
[01:10] <ogra> nbd actually creates block devices that are exported to the network ... like a physical HD
[01:28] <cyrix> thanks for your help guys. Now i have to make a script wich adds the user to the domain system... on linux easy, on windows work for a weekend ;)
[01:29] <humbolto> ogra: Is the SSH encryption NONE option available in gusty now?
[01:29] <ogra> no, we implemented that differently
[01:29] <ogra> but there is an unencrypted X mode, yes
[01:30] <ogra> set LDM_DIRECTX=True in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
[01:30] <ogra> (note that lts.conf is read by tftp now, it moved)
[01:31] <ogra> with LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD a trivial autologin mode was added as well
[01:38] <cyrix> in lts.conf i only add LDM_USERNAME=schueler and LDM_PASSWORD=schueler and the system will autologin?
[01:43] <ogra> in gutsy, yes
[01:44] <ogra> but note that gutsy is far from being production ready
[01:45] <ogra> especially ldm that just gets rewritten completely
[01:53] <cyrix> k
[07:12] <Athanasius> for edubuntu, am I supposed to set my router to DHCP mode or static IP?
[07:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, does your server do dhcp? is it an ltsp server, or did you just install a workstation?
[07:15] <Athanasius> I installed the ltsp server and I have 2 network cards, one for the router to go into the server and the other NIC to go out to the clinents
[07:15] <Athanasius> I have not been able to get thin clients to boot
[07:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure you have the correct networks connected (ie sure you have the clients plugged into the network running dhcp?
[07:18] <Athanasius> I guess that I am not sure.  I got a second NIC like the edubuntu guide recommended.  I figured that when I installed the operating system that it would know what to do and configure properly
[07:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm not sure it does, but i havent used it in the way your describing, so i dont know
[07:19] <Athanasius> for instance the eth0 is from the modem via the router and eth1 goes out from the server to the clients
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, hae you tried plugging the other network cable into the clients to see if it boots them? what stage do the clients fail at?
[07:22] <Athanasius> I boot the clients and they say "no disk inserted, hit enter"  I selected them to boot to the network from the BIOS
[07:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, afk 5-10 min. bbs
[07:22] <Athanasius> no prob
[07:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, can you open a terminal up?
[07:26] <Athanasius> sure
[07:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> and type `ps aux |grep dhc`
[07:27] <Athanasius> want me to paste output?
[07:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its 2 or 3 lines here is fine
[07:28] <Athanasius> it is about 4
[07:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats ok
[07:28] <Athanasius> root      5064  0.0  0.0   1940   700 ?        Ss   09:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system
[07:28] <Athanasius> dhcpd     5799  0.0  0.0   2940  1324 ?        Ss   09:51   0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:28] <Athanasius> sysadmin 10646  0.0  0.0   2884   768 pts/0    S+   13:27   0:00 grep dhc
[07:29] <Athanasius> does it look like everything is ok?
[07:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> mine specifies eth0, but otherwise yours looks fine. dhcp is definitely running
[07:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, i'm checking stuff on a work server before i ask you to do it, so theres little lags involved
[07:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> could you `grep subnet /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf`
[07:31] <Athanasius> yup
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> and `ifconfig |grep eth -A1`
[07:31] <Athanasius> subnet 192.168.000.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[07:31] <Athanasius>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> more 0's then i'm used to, but i assume thats ok.
[07:33] <Athanasius> no response from the last command (ifconfig etc.)
[07:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> really? could you pastebin the output of `ifconfig`
[07:34] <Athanasius> I just get the prompt again, that is all
[07:34] <Athanasius> what is pastebin?
[07:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> sounds like you dont have networking running
[07:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> !pastebin
[07:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:34] <Athanasius> oh, hold on
[07:35] <Athanasius> I typed it in wrong, sorry
[07:35] <Athanasius> here is the output
[07:35] <Athanasius> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:20:2D:1B:DD
[07:35] <Athanasius>           inet addr:192.168.0.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:35] <Athanasius> --
[07:35] <Athanasius> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0E:0C:C6:66:35
[07:35] <Athanasius>           inet addr:192.168.0.101  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, theres a problem
[07:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> eth0 is misconfigured.
[07:35] <Athanasius> sorry ;)
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> and both interfaces are on the same ip address
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[07:37] <Athanasius> I will try gimme a minute
[07:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Athanasius, cat /etc/network/interfaces, and copy+patste is probably the quickets way
[07:39] <Athanasius> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[07:39] <Athanasius> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[07:39] <Athanasius> # The loopback network interface
[07:39] <Athanasius> auto lo
[07:39] <Athanasius> iface lo inet loopback
[07:39] <Athanasius> # The primary network interface
[07:39] <Athanasius> auto eth0
[07:39] <Athanasius> iface eth0 inet static
[07:39] <Athanasius>         address 192.168.0.101
[07:39] <Athanasius>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:39] <Athanasius>         network 192.168.1.0
[07:39] <Athanasius>         broadcast 192.168.1.255
[07:39] <Athanasius>         gateway 192.168.0.1
[07:39] <Athanasius>         # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
[07:39] <Athanasius>         dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1
[07:39] <Athanasius> iface eth1 inet static
[07:39] <Athanasius> address 192.168.0.101
[07:39] <Athanasius> netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:39] <Athanasius> gateway 192.168.0.1
[07:39] <Athanasius> auto eth1
[07:39] <Athanasius> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[07:39] <Athanasius> auto eth2
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. that was a pastebin moment ;)
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> just a tic.
[07:40] <Athanasius> oh, sorry
[07:43] <Athanasius> aha, now I know how pastebin works.. I will be sure to use it the next time
[07:44] <kgoetz> if my connection drops one more fucking time, i'll be unhappy
[07:44] <kgoetz> Athanasius: whats the last message you got from me?
[07:44] <Athanasius> "just a tic"
 Athanasius, which network is meant to be 192.168.1.0?
 eth0 or eth1?
 Athanasius, and which is supposed to be connected to clients?
[07:45] <Athanasius> kogoetz: sorry, I mean "if my connection drops one more...
[07:46] <Athanasius> eth 1 goes to the clients
[07:46] <kgoetz> Athanasius: ok. and does your modem give you addresses by dhcp?
[07:46] <Athanasius> I guess I am not sure which one
[07:47] <kgoetz> for your internet facing connection?
[07:47] <Athanasius> the modem can give address by DHCP,
[07:47] <kgoetz> does it /right now/?
[07:47] <Athanasius> yes
[07:48] <Athanasius> eth0 goes to the router & modem
[07:49] <Athanasius> is eth1 supposed to set for DHCP?
[07:49] <kgoetz> eth1 is supposed to be static
[07:49] <kgoetz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27806/
[07:49] <kgoetz> something like that
[07:50] <kgoetz> bounce the server (for your ease) then hope it works.
[07:51] <`6og> sound sane?
[07:51] <Athanasius> should I copy that into my file?
[07:51] <kgoetz> only if it looks like what you want
[07:51] <kgoetz> and if you remove your existing content.
[07:51] <Athanasius> oh, I see.
[07:51] <Athanasius> bounce the server?
[07:51] <kgoetz> btw.
[07:52] <Athanasius> i feel like bouncing it out the window
[07:52] <kgoetz> sure the gateway is 0.1? not 1.1?         gateway 192.168.0.1
[07:52] <kgoetz> bounce=restart
[07:52] <Athanasius> I can change the gateway to whatever on the router
[07:52] <Athanasius> it can be 0.1 or 1.1
[07:52] <kgoetz> make it 1.something
[07:53] <Athanasius> ok
[07:53] <kgoetz> 0.something will cause things to stop working
[07:53] <Athanasius> and then the server DHCP is 0
[07:53] <Athanasius> is that right?
[07:53] <Athanasius> 0.1
[07:53] <kgoetz> the server is on 192.168.0.something
[07:53] <kgoetz> currently, 101
[07:53] <kgoetz> according to that configuration
[07:53] <Athanasius> ok
[07:53] <kgoetz> it can be whatever
[07:54] <Athanasius> if I get all that straightened out I should be able to boot the clients then?
[07:54] <kgoetz> yes, hopefully
[07:54] <Athanasius> thank you very much for your help!!  I am grateful.
[07:55] <Athanasius> I will tinker with this for a while
[07:55] <kgoetz> hope it works, i'm off to bed
[07:55] <kgoetz> Sat Jun 30 03:25:09 CST 2007
[07:55] <kgoetz> past my bedtime ;)
[07:55] <Athanasius> yikes, where are you?
[07:55] <kgoetz> australia
[07:55] <Athanasius> I was there once, Melbourne, beautiful country
[07:56] <kgoetz> :)
[07:56] <kgoetz> hope to catch you arround, perhaps more in my timezone ;)
[07:56] <Athanasius> thanks again
[07:56] <kgoetz> np
[07:56] <cliebow> Athanasius, your machine will be Really confused if you have two interfaces on the same network..
[07:57] <cliebow> heh\
[07:57] <`6og> *grin*
[07:57] <`6og> hopefully i straitened him out a bit :|
[07:57] <`6og> good luck mate, catch you then
[07:58] <cliebow> thanks
[07:58] <cliebow> 8~)
[08:30] <Deamion> Hi
[08:30] <Deamion> I have a question. I installed edubuntu server and I got the error could not build LTSP chroot and was wondering why
[09:17] <Deamion> exit
[09:23] <flubber> Can anybody help me my sound doesn't work on my laptop
[09:33] <flubber> can anybody help me? my sound doesn't work on my laptop
[09:33] <LaserJock> you should probably ask #ubuntu
[09:34] <flubber> ok thanks
[10:44] <andrupal> Need some help putting together a hardware order for a mixed thin/thick client network, mixed Ubuntu / Windows environment.  Can anyone offer advice?
[11:12] <andrupal> Need some help putting together a hardware order for a mixed thin/thick client network, mixed Ubuntu / Windows environment. Can anyone offer advice?
[11:23] <cyrix> More details