=== Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A94EF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:04] ello === rajkalyan [n=rajkalya@140-155.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-168-86.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.106.39] has joined #edubuntu === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-239-240.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === Athanasius [n=sysadmin@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === eps [n=bender@220-253-87-152.QLD.netspace.net.au] has left #edubuntu [] === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Athanasius [n=sysadmin@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:21] can someone help me set up my dhcp server in edubuntu [05:24] I have everything set but I am not sure what to set the ip addresses to on the second network card [05:25] anyone here? [05:29] I'm here but I can't really help you much [05:33] oh ok. Have you installed edubuntu? [05:34] I have in vmware [05:34] have you gotten the server to work? [05:34] yes [05:35] but to be honest it just worked, I didn't have to set anything up [05:35] you might try looking through http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ [05:36] oh really.. that is my problem, it is't just working for me. I have to modify the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file [05:36] and maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LTSPServerSetup [05:38] I will look at those, thanks === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@dsl-145-227-92.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu [07:37] morning highvoltage [07:39] hey highvoltage, LaserJock [07:40] hi Burgundavia [08:05] moo-o-o-orning [08:18] hey LaserJock and Burgundavia [08:18] and willvdl :) === Burgundavia decides to be kind to his parent's sateillite internet and not dist-upgrade OO.o [08:19] dude. gonna be hard to work in this weather :) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RIchEd === humbolto [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #edubuntu === biotrox [n=marcos@202.182.48.202] has joined #edubuntu === biotrox [n=marcos@202.182.48.202] has left #edubuntu [] === yousefm87 [n=yousef@cpe-75-83-200-249.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === yousefm87 [n=yousef@cpe-75-83-200-249.socal.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === cyrix [n=cyrix@pD9565F05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === happywithed [n=administ@210.81.218.130] has joined #edubuntu [10:41] hi [10:41] I need some urgent help!!! Please! [10:41] then tell us ;) [10:41] I restarted my Classroom server and the users can't login from the thin clients anymore [10:42] all nessary daemons running? [10:42] I can see the users on the server under Users and Groups, but the client's can't authenticate [10:42] What daemons should I checke and how? [10:43] The thin clients can connect to the server because I can see the login window [10:43] ok, other problem [10:43] any IP change on the network? [10:43] but even with the administrator account I can't login [10:43] Not that I know [10:43] I have my server running on one card [10:44] anything in log mesages? [10:44] Any failure message? [10:44] What was that pastebin link? [10:44] let me see [10:44] irc header [10:45] oh, maybe nt [10:45] i have some problems to, i set up a amd64 edubuntu server, and now only the 64bit kernel is availibe in the ltsp boot directory [10:46] so my old celerons clients can't connect [10:47] can't you have a 32bit image in the chroot? [10:47] no [10:47] i can't find the package name for the 32bit kernel images [10:47] ah [10:52] I can't see any problems, except one in the daemon.log along the lines of: tftp: client does not accept options === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-4bb52056c4cddb40] has joined #edubuntu [10:54] should be not the problem [10:56] happywithed: try asking in #ltsp as well ? === RIchEd is now known as RichEd [10:57] the ltsp is working fine. I suspect ldap. I was trying to back it up last night and I might have indavertently turned it off or deleted or something [10:58] Anyone here with ldap expertise? [10:58] for instance how do I check that ldap is working properly? [11:04] ldapsearch [11:06] cyrix: I am installing ldapsearch now [11:13] I installed it, read the man page, but can't run it because I forgot my ldap password [11:13] Do you know how I can reset it? [11:16] no, sorry [11:17] but, i think google will show some guides for that [11:17] i just find via google my solution to the i386 problem: ltsp-build-client --arch i386 ;) [11:43] ah, that's what I meant by a 32bit image [11:46] it works ;) [11:47] vm-ware is booting over network [11:47] cyrix, man ltsp-build-client would have saved you bandwith ;) [11:49] now i hope that the system boots with the 64bit-smp kernel [11:50] not if you used --arch i386 :) [11:50] that will give the clients the -i386 kernel [11:50] i administrate the school from home, and when it stops booting like last time, i have a problem ;) [11:51] jep, but the server has a DualCore cpu and a not smp kernel was installed by default [11:51] i'm talkking about the client [11:51] i know [11:51] the server kernel has nothing to do with the client at all [11:51] i use to test the client functionaility a VM-ware server [11:51] its using the kernel from /opt/ltsp/i386/boot [11:52] which is a -i386 one :) [11:52] yes, i need a 386 kernel for the clients === mpytasz [n=dduck@pc-212-51-218-194.p.lodz.pl] has joined #edubuntu [11:52] mosts of the future clients are 166mhz Pentium and older P2 ones [11:53] wich are currently running with Win2k. fast is someone differnt ;) [11:53] I first wanted to use a Win2k3 Terminal Server, but only the Terminal Server Licencse cost about 1800Euro [11:54] each client has to use a 18Euro Client Terminal License, so i decidet to use Linux ;) [11:54] don't the kernels do smp on demand? I don't run SMP specific kernel on my core duo [11:55] root@igs-srv2:~# uname -r [11:55] 2.6.20-16-server [11:55] just looking what proccpu says [11:56] k, both cores are listet [12:02] yeah, sounds right [12:04] hmm, vm-ware stands still blinking === pauljw [n=paul@pool213.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:08] lets debug ;) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === anestis [n=mail@athedsl-139523.home.otenet.gr] has joined #edubuntu [12:22] the question is, where is the problem: vmware or ltsp [12:23] vmware stops booting after the edubuntu logo appears. [12:24] drop the splash keyword from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default [12:24] and quiet as well [12:24] then it will be more verbose [12:25] thanks [12:25] i love debbung without any messages ;) [12:25] debuging [12:28] it stops at :"IP-Config: eth0 hardware address [MAC] mtu 1500 DHCP RARP [12:29] seems to be a rarp problem === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu [12:30] after a timeout it repeats the ip-config line [12:30] sorry for my bad english :) [12:30] that means it doesnt find the server to mount the rootfs [12:31] cyrix, we can go to #edubuntu-de :) [12:31] nfsmount need a path [12:31] if that helps you :) [12:31] gut ;) === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [12:55] have someone expirence how many users a DualCore 2,8Ghz can handle? [12:56] e.g. a classrom with 15 PCs while all students are surfing with firefox [01:02] what RAM you got? [01:03] 2GB DDR2 800 [01:04] I imagine you'd get 20 clients running alright, as long as they don't all try and open OO.o at the same time or do a blender-render [01:04] good [01:05] As Client i want to use 166Mhz Pentium 1 PCs with 32MB Ram [01:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/HardwareRequirements [01:05] its linked from the FAQ (see topic) [01:05] 32 is way to low [01:06] the kernel alone needs 36 [01:06] you can boot a client with 48M if you use network swap ... [01:06] okay [01:06] you can use it standalone without swapping from 64M on [01:07] gutsy lowers that requirements significantly though [01:07] ogra, would prelinking make have much effect on a thin client system? [01:07] Currently, our Internet Surf Room at School uses 166mhz PCs with 32MB and Win2k... in Web2.0 time, its realy slow ;) [01:08] willvdl, sadly thst something that bites with nfs as well as squashfs [01:08] 10 to 15 Minuts only booting the windows system [01:08] cyrix, web2.0 implies dynamic sites which is mainly server-side. What connection do you have? [01:09] DSL 786 [01:09] willvdl, i'd use readahed if i could (similar to prelinking, loads all needed files to ram first) but it produces kernel oppses on squashfs and slows down nfs a lot [01:09] and nbd? [01:09] is only a low level protocol [01:09] you need a filesystem on top [01:10] (which is squashfs in our case) [01:10] nbd actually creates block devices that are exported to the network ... like a physical HD === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [01:28] thanks for your help guys. Now i have to make a script wich adds the user to the domain system... on linux easy, on windows work for a weekend ;) [01:29] ogra: Is the SSH encryption NONE option available in gusty now? [01:29] no, we implemented that differently [01:29] but there is an unencrypted X mode, yes [01:30] set LDM_DIRECTX=True in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf [01:30] (note that lts.conf is read by tftp now, it moved) [01:31] with LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD a trivial autologin mode was added as well === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:38] in lts.conf i only add LDM_USERNAME=schueler and LDM_PASSWORD=schueler and the system will autologin? [01:43] in gutsy, yes [01:44] but note that gutsy is far from being production ready [01:45] especially ldm that just gets rewritten completely === ogra needs to reboot bbl === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-168-86.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:53] k === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline17096.toya.net.pl] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool213.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jinty [n=jinty@dslb-088-073-075-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.106.39] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool200.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool200.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === mEDUXa [n=agustin@35.Red-80-37-152.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === mEDUXa [n=agustin@35.Red-80-37-152.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #edubuntu === Athanasius [n=sysadmin@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [07:12] for edubuntu, am I supposed to set my router to DHCP mode or static IP? [07:13] Athanasius, does your server do dhcp? is it an ltsp server, or did you just install a workstation? [07:15] I installed the ltsp server and I have 2 network cards, one for the router to go into the server and the other NIC to go out to the clinents [07:15] I have not been able to get thin clients to boot [07:16] sure you have the correct networks connected (ie sure you have the clients plugged into the network running dhcp? [07:18] I guess that I am not sure. I got a second NIC like the edubuntu guide recommended. I figured that when I installed the operating system that it would know what to do and configure properly [07:18] i'm not sure it does, but i havent used it in the way your describing, so i dont know [07:19] for instance the eth0 is from the modem via the router and eth1 goes out from the server to the clients [07:20] Athanasius, hae you tried plugging the other network cable into the clients to see if it boots them? what stage do the clients fail at? [07:22] I boot the clients and they say "no disk inserted, hit enter" I selected them to boot to the network from the BIOS [07:22] sorry, afk 5-10 min. bbs [07:22] no prob [07:26] Athanasius, can you open a terminal up? [07:26] sure [07:27] and type `ps aux |grep dhc` [07:27] want me to paste output? [07:27] if its 2 or 3 lines here is fine [07:28] it is about 4 [07:28] thats ok [07:28] root 5064 0.0 0.0 1940 700 ? Ss 09:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system [07:28] dhcpd 5799 0.0 0.0 2940 1324 ? Ss 09:51 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf [07:28] sysadmin 10646 0.0 0.0 2884 768 pts/0 S+ 13:27 0:00 grep dhc [07:29] does it look like everything is ok? [07:30] mine specifies eth0, but otherwise yours looks fine. dhcp is definitely running [07:30] Athanasius, i'm checking stuff on a work server before i ask you to do it, so theres little lags involved [07:30] could you `grep subnet /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf` [07:31] yup [07:31] and `ifconfig |grep eth -A1` === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:31] subnet 192.168.000.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { [07:31] option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; [07:32] more 0's then i'm used to, but i assume thats ok. [07:33] no response from the last command (ifconfig etc.) [07:33] really? could you pastebin the output of `ifconfig` [07:34] I just get the prompt again, that is all [07:34] what is pastebin? [07:34] sounds like you dont have networking running [07:34] !pastebin [07:34] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [07:34] oh, hold on [07:35] I typed it in wrong, sorry [07:35] here is the output [07:35] eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:20:2D:1B:DD [07:35] inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [07:35] -- [07:35] eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:0C:C6:66:35 [07:35] inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [07:35] ah, theres a problem [07:35] eth0 is misconfigured. [07:35] sorry ;) [07:36] and both interfaces are on the same ip address [07:36] Athanasius, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces [07:37] I will try gimme a minute [07:37] Athanasius, cat /etc/network/interfaces, and copy+patste is probably the quickets way [07:39] # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system [07:39] # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). [07:39] # The loopback network interface [07:39] auto lo [07:39] iface lo inet loopback [07:39] # The primary network interface [07:39] auto eth0 [07:39] iface eth0 inet static [07:39] address 192.168.0.101 [07:39] netmask 255.255.255.0 [07:39] network 192.168.1.0 [07:39] broadcast 192.168.1.255 [07:39] gateway 192.168.0.1 [07:39] # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed [07:39] dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 [07:39] iface eth1 inet static [07:39] address 192.168.0.101 [07:39] netmask 255.255.255.0 === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:39] gateway 192.168.0.1 [07:39] auto eth1 [07:39] iface eth2 inet dhcp [07:39] auto eth2 [07:40] hm. that was a pastebin moment ;) [07:40] just a tic. [07:40] oh, sorry [07:43] aha, now I know how pastebin works.. I will be sure to use it the next time === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [07:44] if my connection drops one more fucking time, i'll be unhappy [07:44] Athanasius: whats the last message you got from me? [07:44] "just a tic" [07:45] Athanasius, which network is meant to be 192.168.1.0? [07:45] eth0 or eth1? [07:45] Athanasius, and which is supposed to be connected to clients? [07:45] kogoetz: sorry, I mean "if my connection drops one more... [07:46] eth 1 goes to the clients === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [07:46] Athanasius: ok. and does your modem give you addresses by dhcp? [07:46] I guess I am not sure which one [07:47] for your internet facing connection? [07:47] the modem can give address by DHCP, [07:47] does it /right now/? [07:47] yes [07:48] eth0 goes to the router & modem [07:49] is eth1 supposed to set for DHCP? [07:49] eth1 is supposed to be static [07:49] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27806/ [07:49] something like that [07:50] bounce the server (for your ease) then hope it works. [07:51] <`6og> sound sane? [07:51] should I copy that into my file? [07:51] only if it looks like what you want [07:51] and if you remove your existing content. [07:51] oh, I see. [07:51] bounce the server? [07:51] btw. [07:52] i feel like bouncing it out the window [07:52] sure the gateway is 0.1? not 1.1? gateway 192.168.0.1 [07:52] bounce=restart [07:52] I can change the gateway to whatever on the router [07:52] it can be 0.1 or 1.1 [07:52] make it 1.something [07:53] ok [07:53] 0.something will cause things to stop working [07:53] and then the server DHCP is 0 [07:53] is that right? [07:53] 0.1 [07:53] the server is on 192.168.0.something [07:53] currently, 101 [07:53] according to that configuration [07:53] ok [07:53] it can be whatever [07:54] if I get all that straightened out I should be able to boot the clients then? [07:54] yes, hopefully [07:54] thank you very much for your help!! I am grateful. [07:55] I will tinker with this for a while [07:55] hope it works, i'm off to bed [07:55] Sat Jun 30 03:25:09 CST 2007 [07:55] past my bedtime ;) [07:55] yikes, where are you? [07:55] australia [07:55] I was there once, Melbourne, beautiful country [07:56] :) [07:56] hope to catch you arround, perhaps more in my timezone ;) [07:56] thanks again [07:56] np [07:56] Athanasius, your machine will be Really confused if you have two interfaces on the same network.. [07:57] heh\ [07:57] <`6og> *grin* [07:57] <`6og> hopefully i straitened him out a bit :| [07:57] <`6og> good luck mate, catch you then [07:58] thanks [07:58] 8~) === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool56.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === Deamion [n=deamion2@169.237.249.165] has joined #edubuntu [08:30] Hi [08:30] I have a question. I installed edubuntu server and I got the error could not build LTSP chroot and was wondering why === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:17] exit === flubber [n=administ@75.181.33.117] has joined #edubuntu [09:23] Can anybody help me my sound doesn't work on my laptop === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu [09:33] can anybody help me? my sound doesn't work on my laptop [09:33] you should probably ask #ubuntu [09:34] ok thanks === flubber [n=administ@75.181.33.117] has left #edubuntu [] === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.107.64] has joined #edubuntu === aze_ [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === aze_ is now known as aze === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool56.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@BAA2286.baa.pppool.de] has joined #edubuntu === andrupal [n=chatzill@pool-70-18-218-6.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:44] Need some help putting together a hardware order for a mixed thin/thick client network, mixed Ubuntu / Windows environment. Can anyone offer advice? === krsnendu [n=krsnendu@203.160.119.147] has joined #edubuntu === krsnendu [n=krsnendu@203.160.119.147] has joined #edubuntu === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has left #edubuntu [] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [11:12] Need some help putting together a hardware order for a mixed thin/thick client network, mixed Ubuntu / Windows environment. Can anyone offer advice? === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:23] More details === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu