[12:18] <najib> hey where is the themes section in kubuntu?
[12:18] <semistud2354> Attempting to open Rio and retrieve song list....Device not found.library tried to use method: libusb
[12:18] <semistud2354> thats what it says everytime i type rioutil -<letter>
[12:21] <sweettooth> !postgresql
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgresql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <sweettooth> anyone could give a  hand on installing postgresql?
[12:23] <sweettooth> i have installed the suggested method, "sudo apt-get install postgresql-client-common"
[12:23] <sweettooth> then, "sudo apt-get install postgresql-client-8.2"
[12:24] <sweettooth> but i still have problems in accessing the server, or have i actually installed the server or not?
[12:24] <sweettooth> psql: could not connect to server: Connection refused
[12:24] <sweettooth>         Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
[12:24] <sweettooth>         TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
[12:26] <djbrenden> millet limewirela ilgili bi sorum olacak .. yardmc olabilecek kimse varm ? ..
[12:26] <cWolfe> wtf?
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> no clue what country he is from..
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> his IP doesn't even say
[12:27] <cWolfe> all i made out was limewire
[12:27] <najib> hey how do  uinstall new icons?
[12:28] <najib> how do you install new icon themes?
[12:28] <sweettooth> !psql
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <TrueFX> how can i insert ` in konsole?
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> sweettooth- you only installed the client programs. If you want the server, you need the package postgresql
[12:30] <TrueFX> i cant produce that sign without using kcharselect program
[12:30] <TrueFX> is there a way to insert that kind of digraphs?
[12:30] <TrueFX> in konsole?
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> Actually, the current version is postgresql-8.2
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> najib: you can get wuite a few from the repositories
[12:30] <semistud2354> im looking at my /dev/ and i dont see sdb but i do see an snd....i dont know if that is the same thing
[12:31] <najib> nosredaekim, pardon me?
[12:31] <sweettooth> Dragnslcr, oh ic, just that i didnt see any postgresql-8.2, now i see it, thx, hehe
[12:31] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to find the new files/folders that got put in dev...after i pluged in my rio
[12:31] <semistud2354> and mount it
[12:31] <najib> nosredaekim, im new here so i  do not know
[12:32] <semistud2354> i tryed using rioutil...but that keeps saying it cant find it
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> najib: just search through adept-manager for "icons"
[12:33] <najib> hey does anybody know how to install icon themes?
[12:34] <najib> nosredaekim, ok where is that
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> the hunt is still on for a good usenet binary downloader
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> najib: wait, did you download an icon theme off the internet already?
[12:34] <najib> nosredaekim, yes
[12:35] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: There's BNR2
[12:35] <eagles0513875> j/w  the reason i could be getting slow download speeds ovra  2mb cable connection could it be due to a bad modem
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> najib: ah.. ok. so its a tar.gz file?
[12:35] <najib> nosredaekim, yes
[12:35] <Minataku> It used to give me trouble but that was back when I had bad GTK libs or something
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> najib: just a second
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> klibido doesn't suck TOO bad, but it's far from great.  BNR2 takes forever to initialize its db with more than a few groups subscribed...
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> though i like BNR2's functionality.
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> however, now that i'm not using giga, it might be a little faster...
[12:37] <najib> nosredaekim, ok
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> najib: read these instructions http://kde-artists.org/node/112
[12:39] <eagles0513875> how does one know when a cable modem is going bad
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> it stops working
[12:40] <bryan> lol
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> they generally don't gradually get slower
[12:40] <yourfriend> the inter-tubes are clogged with jelly
[12:40] <yourfriend> lol
[12:40] <bryan> yes they do sometimes
[12:40] <Minataku> KY Jelly, no doubt
[12:40] <Minataku> lol
[12:41] <yourfriend> lmao
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> I think the trucks are running out of gas
[12:41] <yourfriend> omg lol
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> bryan: i said "generally"
[12:41] <Minataku> eagles0513875: If there's smoke coming out of it
[12:41] <Minataku> It's probably going or already is bad
[12:41] <yourfriend> thats a sign
[12:41] <eagles0513875> no
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> you know there are shortages... and well the trucks can't keep up with you pirates
[12:41] <eagles0513875> im just getting really slow internet on a 2mbps connection
[12:41] <Minataku> eagles0513875: It's probably just network congestion
[12:41] <eagles0513875> doubt it
[12:42] <bryan> eagles0513875- what issue are you having?
[12:42] <eagles0513875> even during the day yesterday and today its been sluggish
[12:42] <eagles0513875> really slow speed
[12:42] <Minataku> If you already answered your own question, why are you asking us?
[12:42] <eagles0513875> 2mbps cable connection and im getting speeds of 56k
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> i'm getting really slow internet on 26K. beleive me..... you aren't getting slow internet
[12:42] <bryan> Have you reset
[12:42] <eagles0513875> how do i reset
[12:42] <eagles0513875> unplug it wait 30sec and then pulg it back in
[12:42] <Minataku> Best way is to unplug the cable modem for... yeah
[12:43] <bryan> Unplug modem for 15 sec. n reconnect
[12:43] <Minataku> The reset button doesn't typically reset everything
[12:43] <eagles0513875> there isnt one
[12:43] <eagles0513875> its one the cable company gave me
[12:43] <Minataku> Just unplug it for 30sec
[12:43] <eagles0513875> ok brb
[12:43] <bryan> Do you have a router with it?
[12:43] <yourfriend> eagles >> then check the cables on all of your connections as well while its down
[12:44] <yourfriend> hopefully he is not directly connected to the interweb. lol
[12:45] <eagles0513875> no i plug directly into the cable modem
[12:45] <eagles0513875> btw this is a european cable company
[12:45] <eagles0513875> i unplugged it and replugged it
[12:45] <Minataku> Bullcrap
[12:45] <eagles0513875> interweb??
[12:45] <Minataku> You never left
[12:45] <eagles0513875> oh
[12:45] <Minataku> You didn't unplug anything
[12:45] <eagles0513875> ya i did lol
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> what?
[12:46] <Minataku> Probably unplugged something unrelated
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> He might have a proxy connection
[12:46] <Minataku> Like your printer
[12:46] <eagles0513875> one thing i did notice is that along the seabone that connects us to main land europe has huge packet lost
[12:46] <nathan> heya
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> did you unplug your refridgerator
[12:46] <eagles0513875> i dont have a printer
[12:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:46] <eagles0513875> no where near my fridge
[12:46] <Minataku> [18:44:51]  eagles0513875 one thing i did notice is that along the seabone that connects us to main land europe has huge packet lost << Well there's your problem, damnit
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> now place beer in mouth and count to 10 backwards
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> Just kidding
[12:46] <Minataku> Once they fix that, expect better speeds
[12:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:47] <Minataku> Some dink probably stepped on a cable
[12:47] <eagles0513875> Minataku: i reported to the company that provides the seabone and i even reported it to my isp
[12:47] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> I hear there was a huge fishfight in the area.
[12:47] <Minataku> Well, now wait for them to fix it :P
[12:47] <UbuntuServerUser> I have a samba question. I'm following this guide (http://howtoforge.com/samba_domaincontroller_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4?s=46e820405a536935a1b1047787c75c6a&) and its all for one HDD. I have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /srv, and thats where I want the files to be stored. What do I have to change in order for samba to write to /srv ???????
[12:47] <eagles0513875> stepped on it in the middle of the mediteranean sea
[12:48] <Minataku> Yes
[12:48] <eagles0513875> i was really looking forward to testing gutsy
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: where does the guide say to set it up to write to?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> that isnt possible or is it lol
[12:49] <Minataku> Sure it's possible, but don't use it for a desktop system
[12:49] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim, well its kind of confusing, it has [profiles]  in /home/samba/profiles
[12:49] <eagles0513875> ?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> what u mean min
[12:49] <Minataku> Gutsy is unstable
[12:49] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim it has [netlogon]  in /home/samba/netlogon
[12:49] <eagles0513875> that is the whole point
[12:50] <Minataku> Don't use it for a primary system
[12:50] <UbuntuServerUser> IDK even know what that does
[12:50] <eagles0513875> i want to help testing it
[12:50] <eagles0513875> and i have something that would help wifi really easy for alot of people
[12:50] <eagles0513875> that have broadcom cards
[12:50] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim what should I change?
[12:50] <Minataku> And what would that be, eagles0513875 ?
[12:50] <eagles0513875> hold on
[12:50] <eagles0513875> let me get the link out of my email
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: after you have it all set up,I think you set /srv as a mount point. I have not ever done Samba, so i really don't know
[12:51] <yourfriend> eagles >> would introduce wireless to the world!
[12:51] <yourfriend> lol
[12:52] <eagles0513875> in a way Minataku its a reversed engineerd wifi driver for broadcom cards
[12:52] <eagles0513875> broadcom hasnt take any action on em
[12:52] <eagles0513875> they took a windows driver deconstructed it
[12:52] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim, I have /srv as a mountpoint from my second HDD hdb1....soo how do I tell samba to use userprofiles space they have to write on /srv
[12:52] <eagles0513875> and rewrote it in c
[12:52] <Dragnslcr> eagles0513875- unless it's a stolen spec sheet, I doubt anything can help people with Broadcom chips
[12:52] <eagles0513875> i dont think it is
[12:52] <eagles0513875> cuz there was a petition that was going round
[12:52] <yourfriend> eagles >> that Win... word is not allowed in here.  Watch it buddy!
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser:  don't know... go to #samba
[12:53] <yourfriend> lol
[12:53] <eagles0513875> i hate winblows
[12:53] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim :( nobody's in there or responding
[12:53] <yourfriend> DRM is a great upgrade feature!
[12:53] <yourfriend> and Internet exploder runs with 100% more spyware
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> and so is UAC
[12:53] <yourfriend> lame!
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: try #ubuntu
[12:53] <eagles0513875> and i dont think that they r going to take any action cuz they took that off of broadcoms hands
[12:53] <yourfriend> MS = Lame
[12:53] <nathan> hello there
[12:54] <eagles0513875> they dont have to wry bout  developing a linux driver
[12:54] <yourfriend> hey nathan
[12:54] <yourfriend> whats up?
[12:54] <eagles0513875> yourfriend google if4linux
[12:54] <nathan> ermm few questions, absolutely no idea if ya can help lol
[12:54] <eagles0513875> ask away natahn
[12:54] <Arwen> see, it's all the pointless MS bashing that makes people think F/OSS is a cult
[12:54] <PG> are some girls here
[12:54] <Arwen> PG, there are no girls on teh interwebs...
[12:54] <nathan> firstly - got an ATI card in this comp, and as far as me mate says its already installed
[12:54] <Arwen> that said, there is #ubuntu-women for "women"
[12:54] <UbuntuServerUser> thanks nosrednaekim for your help
[12:55] <yourfriend> PG >> this is not a sexy chatroom
[12:55] <Arwen> ^^
[12:55] <eagles0513875> u mean open gl is already installed
[12:55] <yourfriend> PG >> although we all wish it was
[12:55] <yourfriend> lol
[12:55] <nathan> (comes up as ATI in the monitor and displays
[12:55] <PG> hahaha
[12:55] <eagles0513875> what kind of card is it
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: I really didn't do nothing
[12:55] <Arwen> nathan, go rip it out, sell it, and buy an NVIDIA one
[12:55] <nathan> on this screen its absolutely fine
[12:55] <nathan> ATI X300
[12:55] <PG> i does think about that ;)
[12:55] <yourfriend> Arwen is right girls are smarter than to use the internet
[12:55] <Arwen> yep :-)
[12:55] <eagles0513875> ok i have something ull have to do to get ur open gl to work
[12:55] <nathan> however, on projector (which is S-vid) the screens stupid
[12:55] <yourfriend> jk
[12:55] <eagles0513875> and here is that link yourfriend
[12:55] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=home
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> oh... thats old
[12:56] <nathan> kinda same thing as when you set your resolution higher than the monitor can handle
[12:56] <eagles0513875> do u want me to give u alink on how to enable open gl
[12:56] <PG> how do i use the strong fglrx with beryl
[12:56] <yourfriend> eagles >> I see
[12:56] <PG> does it work
[12:56] <nathan> nosrednaekim its webbserver btw lol i had to format again
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ah.. ok
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> why?
[12:56] <eagles0513875> nosrednaekim: how come they havent implemented it into the distro
[12:56] <nathan> i followed some instructions, restarted and it went to a black screen with a flashing underscore lol
[12:56] <PG> i use the normal xorg with beryl and its work perfecktly
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: they have
[12:57] <eagles0513875> they how come my broadcom 4306 card doesnt work out of box in feisty
[12:57] <eagles0513875> u using feisty nathan
[12:57] <Arwen> PG, fglrx is anything but strong...
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: because it doesn't support all cards yet
[12:57] <Minataku> Stupid ass KDE apps, I have kdelibs installed, it's not my fault your dumbass configure script is too stupid to find them
[12:57] <nathan> ermm dont know?
[12:57] <eagles0513875> mine is supported
[12:57] <Arwen> anyway, you need !xgl to use beryl (which is dead, obsolete, and buggy) on fglrx
[12:57] <yourfriend> have a good 1 guys
[12:57] <Arwen> PG, ^^
[12:57] <yourfriend> gotta run
[12:57] <yourfriend> later
[12:57] <eagles0513875> later
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> nathan: "uname -a"
[12:58] <nathan> in konsole as a guess
[12:58] <eagles0513875> well the link im goign ot give u nathan is one for edgy but its teh exact same steps in feisty
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> nathan: indeed... its your best freind after google
[12:58] <PG> i had a mac osx tiger version on my amd dektop pc but it isn so good as feisty fawn
[12:58] <PG> i love feisty fawn its one of the best os
[12:58] <nathan> nathan@nathan:~$ uname -a
[12:58] <nathan> Linux nathan 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:58] <nathan> nathan@nathan:~
[12:58] <PG> better than mac
[12:58] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[12:58] <Minataku> Mine's better
[12:58] <Minataku> :3
[12:58] <nathan> lol
[12:58] <eagles0513875> yay another 64 bit user
[12:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:59] <nathan> lol of course :)
[12:59] <eagles0513875> woot
[12:59] <eagles0513875> i have to say best 64bit distro out there
[12:59] <nathan> this is my server im settin up.. lol my normal pcs only 32 bit :\
[12:59] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:59] <nathan> what ya mean eagles ol
[12:59] <eagles0513875> this is mylaptop and my desktop pc is 64bit as well
[12:59] <nathan> lol
[12:59] <Minataku> Heh, x64... those extra 32bits are just a headache
[12:59] <eagles0513875> better than xp x64
[12:59] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:00] <UbuntuServerUser> I have a samba question. I'm following this guide (http://howtoforge.com/samba_domaincontroller_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4?s=46e820405a536935a1b1047787c75c6a&) and its all for one HDD. I have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /srv, and thats where I want the files to be stored. What do I have to change in order for samba and its users to write to /srv ???????
[01:00] <nathan> iv fell out with XP
[01:00] <PG> 32 and 64 is the same thing
[01:00] <eagles0513875> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide  try that nathan
[01:00] <Minataku> No it's not
[01:00] <eagles0513875> 64 bit in my opinion is like intels hyperthreading
[01:00] <eagles0513875> allows for better performance
[01:00] <nathan> fell out with it that much, i bought a brand new HDD to put linux on cause i dont wanna write it over what was once shit
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> I just installed the i386 version this week. The number of apps that don't have amd64 versions yet got slightly annoying
[01:00] <PG> no but what for advantages you have
[01:00] <PG> with 64
[01:00] <eagles0513875> did u see thte link nathan
[01:01] <Minataku> Even if you have a 64bit chip, use a 32bit OS
[01:01] <eagles0513875> good for video editing and 3danimation
[01:01] <eagles0513875> y
[01:01] <nathan> yeah but as i said, me mate says my GFX card is already installed
[01:01] <Minataku> There's no point to 64bit yet except in specialized applications
[01:01] <PG> ohh come on
[01:01] <Dragnslcr> PG- 64-bit processors can handle a lot more memory
[01:01] <eagles0513875> that doesnt mean anything
[01:01] <eagles0513875> nathan
[01:01] <Arwen> nathan, "me mate"? and, like I said, go buy an NVIDIA.
[01:01] <nathan> lmao
[01:01] <Minataku> And considering 4GB is far more than any common desktop needs
[01:01] <nathan> its true, linux people are very nvidia lol
[01:01] <Minataku> The "moar memoary" argument is moot
[01:01] <eagles0513875> im considering8gb pc4000 on my desktop lol
[01:02] <PG> with a big ram and the newest graphicscard you bel able to do it same as 64 bit or a lot better
[01:02] <eagles0513875> nathan ati doesnt have good support for newer cards go through that dude
[01:02] <eagles0513875> u wont regret it
[01:02] <Dragnslcr> I didn't say anyone needed that much memory right now, I was just pointing it out for informational purposes
[01:02] <Minataku> ATI is utter crap
[01:02] <eagles0513875> agreed
[01:02] <PG> nvidia is big shit
[01:02] <eagles0513875> in my desktop i have a pci-e 6600gt by evga
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> nathan: so did you go to that link that eagles gave you?
[01:03] <PG> i use ati and its very goooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[01:03] <TeraDyne> !ohmy | PG
[01:03] <ubotu> PG: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:03] <nathan> yeah i hvae the link
[01:03] <Arwen> PG, you FAIL
[01:03] <eagles0513875> PG: only when it comes to having a winblows machine
[01:03] <Minataku> AMD _may_ turn them around, who knows, but right now they're useless and I don't predict them making any waves in any close amount of time
[01:03] <eagles0513875> nathan email it to urself so u dont lose it
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> PG- you mean you found non-beta drivers?
[01:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:03] <eagles0513875> i had no choice not to mention what is worse mine is integrated
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> I had an ATI card with Win2k for a year and they never managed to get the drivers out of beta
[01:04] <PG> ach ihr habt doch keine ahnung
[01:04] <eagles0513875> i love intel and nvidia
[01:04] <nathan> so u want me to go through it, despite kubuntu already stating my graphics card is ATI Radeon (fglrx)
[01:04] <PG> labern da die grte scheie
[01:04] <eagles0513875> nathan open up a shell and do this
[01:04] <clintc_laptop> nvidia has a better history of supporting linux, ati and nvidia are more similar now than in the past, but I still like supporting nvidia for being there for us longer
[01:04] <TeraDyne> PG, keep it english here.
[01:04] <PG> ta chifscha
[01:04] <justyb> Hello
[01:04] <eagles0513875> type in glxinfo and if it says that direct rendering is indirect go through that link i gave u
[01:04] <PG> hahah did you cant speak german
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> I have an inegrated ATI, which is ONLY supported by the Fglrx
[01:05] <Minataku> PG: And keep it clean even in German, too
[01:05] <eagles0513875> nosrednaekim: that link will help u to get open gl to work
[01:05] <kouji> hello, I want to remove the folder that contains konversation settings....where is it located?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: Oh I have everything working
[01:05] <PG> hahah und dann kommt der noch mit dem prog hier rein
[01:05] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> kouji: .kde somewhere.
[01:05] <eagles0513875> !language
[01:05] <Arwen> w00t, Microsoft mice rule!
[01:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:05] <PG> was fr eine ironie
[01:05] <Minataku> !ops
[01:05] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:05] <Minataku> Someone want to handle PG here?
[01:05] <Riddell> Minataku: hmm?
[01:06] <PriceChild> PG, english only in this channel.
[01:06] <eagles0513875> nathan what does it say
[01:06] <PG> its a frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lannnnnnnnnnnnnnnd
[01:06] <Minataku> I'm thinking he's just here to cause trouble
[01:06] <eagles0513875> do u ahve direct rendering or not
[01:06] <nixternal> slow down Riddell :)
[01:06] <Minataku> Thanks a bunch, Riddell
[01:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> thanks  Riddell
[01:06] <justyb> kouji: It should be located in ~/.kde/share/conhig
[01:06] <TeraDyne> Thanks Riddell
[01:06] <eagles0513875> nathan im out dude its 1am here
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: what,you wanted the fun?
[01:07] <eagles0513875> and im beat got up early this am for nothing
[01:07] <nathan> direct rendering : yes
[01:07] <eagles0513875> then ignore the link then
[01:07] <nathan> ok
[01:07] <justyb> kouji: Sorry  ~/.kde/share/config
[01:07] <nixternal> nosrednaekim: JR is the quiet hacker type, and yes, maybe I wanted a little bit of that thunder :)
[01:07] <eagles0513875> ill give u a link to the website that i have once i get it up and running
[01:07] <eagles0513875> of simplified how to's
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> nathan: could yu pastebin the whole content of that command?
[01:07] <nathan> i think what i should do is juust buy a 50 montior port > RGB cable.. and have the better display anyway lol
[01:07] <kouji> yes I found it....now if I install konversation again will it be a clean install?
[01:07] <bryan> How would I knowif I installed my video card nvidia 7900gt correct?
[01:07] <eagles0513875> for kubuntu/ubuntu
[01:07] <eagles0513875> night u guys
[01:07] <nathan> not unless i wanna get kicked by some IRC bot? lol
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: hehe.... can I be a mod?
[01:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:08] <eagles0513875> night
[01:08] <nixternal> dunno, can you?
[01:08] <bryan> kubuntu
[01:08] <eagles0513875> back
[01:08] <justyb> bryan: You can open a terminal and run glxinfo
[01:08] <nathan> lol
[01:08] <eagles0513875> .away
[01:08] <nathan> it wont kick me for posting it all in will it? cayse theres alot of stuff there
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin it.
[01:08] <eagles0513875> lol ya
[01:08] <Arwen> nathan, pastebin
[01:08] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[01:08] <Minataku> I'd vote for myself to be an op, but I'm way too edgy for the authorities around here
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <nathan> "pastebin"
[01:08] <Minataku> X3
[01:08] <Arwen> or we'll have to kline you
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[01:09] <eagles0513875> night
[01:09] <justyb> bryan: glxinfo | grep direct  to be exact
[01:09] <eagles0513875> for real this time lol
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: and who knows what that specially compiled IRC client can do...
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: kick the whole channel for insulting Gentoo?
[01:09] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27688/
[01:10] <Minataku> Nah, I could use chanserv for that
[01:10] <bryan> It says the verything is missing
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> nathan: looking at it.
[01:11] <justyb> bryan: That's a lot of missing
[01:11] <nathan> ko
[01:11] <mneptok> Minataku: not to mention voting for yourself is an almost instant "no" answer ;)
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, and what you really want to do is view things on your projector?
[01:12] <voidmage> Does kde have a version of spider solitaire?
[01:12] <nathan> yeah generally speaking - which is through S-Vid
[01:12] <nathan> and as also stated it displays image but as if its too high a res so screen goes fuzzy and doubles up on itself (u kno the screen i mean)
[01:12] <Minataku> mneptok: Not my fault I'm "too hot for IRC"
[01:12] <Minataku> XD
[01:13] <justyb> bryan: What video card do you have?
[01:13] <nathan> nosred ill be right back, i just need to do a restart
[01:13] <bryan> nvidia 7900gt
[01:14] <justyb> bryan: I know silly Q, but are you running (k)ubuntu?  And which version?
[01:14] <bryan> kubuntu f 7.04
[01:15] <bryan> I'm trying ENVY but is not working
[01:15] <justyb> bryan: Check google for a package called envy
[01:15] <justyb> bryan: I see...
[01:15] <justyb> bryan: That helps to know that
[01:17] <nathan> im back
[01:17] <nathan> jus connected the S-vid cable back in again.
[01:17] <justyb> bryan: Which version of the envy script are you using?
[01:18] <nathan> when i pulled off that thing i put in the pastebucket, would i have needed the S-vid cable to be plugged in at the time?
[01:18] <justyb> Oh well.
[01:19] <nathan> nosrednaekim: still there?
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> yes
[01:19] <nathan> kl kl
[01:19] <nathan> did that come up red for u btw or black
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. it came up red
[01:20] <nathan> kl kl
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> and it gave me a little pop up.
[01:21] <nathan> aah
[01:21] <tikal> hi all
[01:21] <nathan> find any ideas via that paste?
[01:21] <nathan> and should i post another now projectors connected?
[01:21] <crusty> anyone know why I cant get any Amarok themes to work?
[01:21] <crusty> Is there a special trick I should know about?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, you attached your projector?
[01:22] <nathan> yeah
[01:22] <barzin1> anyone have experience with ankhSVN?
[01:22] <nathan> had to restart before it would give a display
[01:22] <justyb> crusty: Is there any output to indcate an error with the theme?
[01:23] <crusty> nope
[01:23] <crusty> it just says that "new fun stuff has been installed" and then nothing
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> nathan: you need the proprietary display driver in order to do TV-out
[01:24] <nathan> im guessing by that you mean S-Vid yeah?
[01:24] <crusty> hang on... is there a difference between Amarok FS and the one native in Kumbutu 7.04?
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !find fglrx
[01:25] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[01:25] <Arwen> !info fglrx-kernel-source
[01:25] <ubotu> fglrx-kernel-source: ATI binary kernel module source. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.34.8+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 212 kB, installed size 272 kB
[01:25] <justyb> crusty: It seems to be working on my install but I've never known that a option to get themes direct from kde-look existed until now.
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> nathan: "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> run that
[01:26] <nathan> ok
[01:26] <nathan> u gonna be here for long (dont wanna guess half way through and kill the system again lmao)
[01:27] <nathan> couldnt find package
[01:27] <justyb> crusty: Yeah they are two different things
[01:27] <nathan> sudo apt-get update?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> nathan: lol... yeah I will
[01:27] <justyb> crusty: two different theme stuff too.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> nathan: what happened last time?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> nathan: yeah.
[01:28] <nathan> dont know, i tried folloiwng a webpage i'd been left with
[01:28] <nathan> hey im learning see :P lol
[01:28] <DrX> when I setup Thunderbird with LDAP I get no results back and I tried every permutation of 3 articles from MozillaZine and verified the server OUs -- anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> yep.
[01:28] <nathan> when i finished i restarted and it wouldnt load linux
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:28] <nathan> hmm already updated did i spell right
[01:28] <nathan> E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fgirx
[01:28] <nathan> aaah
[01:28] <nathan> glr
[01:28] <nathan> im an idiot
[01:29] <nathan> ok installing
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> hahaha
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> did THAT again?
[01:29] <nathan> lol weird i usually av a crap memory too.. and yep i did lmao
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> heh
[01:29] <nathan> i figured it out this time tho lol
[01:29] <justyb> DrX: Woha, there are about a million different things it could be.
[01:29] <nathan> ok thats finished nosred
[01:29] <crusty> justyb: ok thanks.. I'll se if I cant get a hold of something that can be skinned =)
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok run this command "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:30] <justyb> crusty: No problem.  :)
[01:30] <nathan> opened
[01:30] <justyb> DrX: What page did you get your directions from?
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> ok, go to Section "Device"
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> you see where it says "ati"?
[01:31] <nathan> found it
[01:32] <nathan> Section "Device"
[01:32] <nathan> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] "
[01:32] <nathan> 	Driver		"ati"
[01:32] <nathan> 	BusID		"PCI:5:0:0"
[01:32] <nathan> EndSection
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> change that ati to fglrx, leaving it quotes
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> like Driver "fglrx"
[01:32] <Arwen> and at the end, add
[01:32] <Arwen> Section "Extensions"
[01:32] <Arwen> Option "Composite" "false"
[01:32] <Arwen> EndSection
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> nathan: Arwen means at the end of the FILE
[01:33] <Arwen> ^^
[01:33] <Arwen> what he said
[01:33] <nathan> yeah figured
[01:33] <nathan> ok done that
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> nathan: now, back to the Device section
[01:33] <nathan> i did that last bit last time - i never modified driver thing tho
[01:33] <nathan> in this text file yeah?
[01:33] <nathan> section device
[01:34] <nathan> Section "Device"
[01:34] <nathan> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] "
[01:34] <nathan> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[01:34] <nathan> 	BusID		"PCI:5:0:0"
[01:34] <nathan> EndSection
[01:34] <Arwen> yes, that looks fine (PCI:5? lol)
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> put this is that section, right below the busID -> Option  "ForceMonitors" "lvds,tv"
[01:34] <Arwen> how do you know he's not using VGA? in which case it would be crt1,tv
[01:35] <nathan> Option  "ForceMonitors" "lvds,tv"
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: he said S-video
[01:35] <Arwen> hmm
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> oh... right
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> worry
[01:35] <nathan> guessing thats not right
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> nathan: this is a laptop right?
[01:35] <nathan> btw would like it to work with monitor aswell jus so you know ;) lol
[01:35] <Arwen> nathan, well, are you using DVI or VGA output for your monitor? or is a laptop?
[01:35] <nathan> no
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:35] <nathan> this is a server PC.. big block lol
[01:35] <Arwen> and heh, an X300? that's a shitty card
[01:35] <nathan> yer it is llo
[01:36] <Arwen> :-P
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> ok, change that lvds to crt1
[01:36] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, wait, when'd we confirm it was VGA? it could also tpms1 or something
[01:36] <nathan> Section "Device"
[01:36] <nathan> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] "
[01:36] <nathan> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[01:36] <nathan> 	BusID		"PCI:5:0:0"
[01:36] <nathan> Option  "ForceMonitors" "crtl,tv"
[01:36] <nathan> EndSection
[01:36] <Arwen> tmds*
[01:36] <DrX> justyb:  www.cc.isel.ipl.pt/Pessoais/LusSousa/knowledge/mozilla_ad/ and forums.msexchange.org/m_30659100/tm.htm and www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/ldap.html
[01:36] <Arwen> nathan, don't paste to the channel..
[01:36] <nathan> the above look right?
[01:36] <nathan> sorry
[01:37] <mo0osah> !pastebin | nathan
[01:37] <ubotu> nathan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> nathan: crt1 as is "one"
[01:37] <DrX> justyb: and kb.mozillazine.org/LDAP_access_via_Address_Book
[01:37] <nathan> nosred you lost me there
[01:37] <nathan> aha you mean no ,tv
[01:37] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, but if he uses DVI, it would be tmds
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nathan: not crt "L" crt "1" ans in the number one
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> *as
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nathan: no, keep the tv
[01:38] <nathan> aah crt1 im with ya
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nathan: it is a VGA monitor right?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> not DVI?
[01:38] <nathan> mm DVI is the big one aint it
[01:38] <Arwen> DVI is usually white colored
[01:39] <Arwen> VGA is usually blue colored
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> the big white one
[01:39] <nathan> VGA the one like a mouse port but more pins lol
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> no... thats s-video
[01:39] <Arwen> ^^
[01:39] <nathan> i mean old style mouses lmao
[01:39] <nathan> 1 sec
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> ah... right..like a serial port
[01:39] <Arwen> yes, old style mice with the PS/2 ports? the round ones? that's svideo
[01:39] <nathan> yeah
[01:39] <Arwen> VGA is like serial
[01:40] <nathan> its vga
[01:40] <nathan> i google pic'd it
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> nathan: so its VGA?
[01:40] <nathan> yeah
[01:40] <Arwen> ok, crt1 it is
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> ok... paste that section again.
[01:40] <nathan> in a pastebin this time ;) lol
[01:40] <dewey> good day mates
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah..actually pastebin the whole file
[01:40] <dewey> gutsy-gibbon 2 would not boot for me?
[01:41] <justyb> DrX: What error are you getting?
[01:41] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27690/
[01:41] <nathan> ok ill amend and pastebin the lot
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> I think those kinda things go over to #kubuntu-devel
[01:41] <dewey> justyb: no error it stops in middle of boot.
[01:41] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27691/
[01:42] <justyb> dewey: ???
[01:42] <DrX> justyb:  no error, just no results.  supposed to be able to enter something in the (advanced) search box & get results.
[01:43] <justyb> DrX: And you are sure that there is information in the directory?
[01:43] <Arwen> !icecast
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <Arwen> ...
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> nathan: tab that Option force monitors in to be even with the other options.
[01:43] <CliffJumper> So I have a couple of packages which I've source compiled and "dpkg -i"-ed, and adept has them marked as upgradeable, even though the version numbers are exactly the same... what gives?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> and nathantab the "option composite false" in as well
[01:44] <nathan> ok
[01:44] <Arwen> CliffJumper, apt prefers non-local packages
[01:44] <Arwen> add a prefix to them
[01:44] <Arwen> (and for the record, use the "dpkg-buildpackage" command, it's good)
[01:44] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27692/
[01:44] <Arwen> oh yeah, s/prefix/suffix
[01:44] <Arwen> prefixes are bad
[01:45] <CliffJumper> Arwen: that's what i used to compile them and create the deb; how do I add a suffix?
[01:45] <justyb> Aw smack...  Got to go.  Got to start cooking dinner or the whole family is going to kill me.
[01:45] <DrX> yes.  i can see the information on the server AND from another client running a different email client
[01:45] <Arwen> CliffJumper, edit the changelog file and add a new version
[01:45] <Arwen> making it a higher one than the previous
[01:45] <CliffJumper> Arwen: Thanks!
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> nathan: and the Option Composite False at the end too.... tab that in.
[01:45] <justyb> DrX: Sorry I've got to go.
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> i'm not sure is it matters... but we don't want totake chances
[01:46] <justyb> DrX: Hope things work out.
[01:46] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27694/
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Great!
[01:47] <nathan> ko, that look good now yeah?
[01:47] <sooti> hello, where can I download the oxygen iconset
[01:47] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, wait, don't we need specific settings for the TV?
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> now, if the X server crashes in the next step we do, log in from the command line, and change that file back to the way it was before with "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: we do that with aticonfigure I believe
[01:47] <Tm_T> sooti: sure you can, BUT it won't help you much I afraid
[01:47] <Arwen> hmm
[01:48] <nathan> eh lol
[01:48] <Tm_T> sooti: because icon naming has changed from KDE3 to KDE4
[01:48] <sooti> ahh... I see
[01:48] <nathan> lmao... gonna b fun tryin 2 do the TV card .. lmfao but thats a differnet matter
[01:49] <Arwen> !u | nathan
[01:49] <ubotu> nathan: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[01:49] <Arwen> just a thought
[01:49] <Arwen> (I'm just kidding)
[01:49] <nathan> lol
[01:49] <nathan> laugh out loud even
[01:49] <Arwen> :-P
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> nathan: log out, and in KDM select "restart x server", its in one of the menus.
[01:49] <Arwen> (/me would go watch a movie, but shoutcast is so fun)
[01:50] <sooti> A bot trying to reinforce english grammar in an internet chatroom.....that's amusing
[01:50] <nathan> eh do i have to acutally logout to restart x-server
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> haha
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> nathan: yes
[01:50] <nathan> cause i got log out, hibernate, restart or turn off
[01:50] <nathan> so log out, THEN i get restart X-server
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> just log out.
[01:50] <Arwen> nathan, well, no, but restarting it will kill your session anyway
[01:50] <Arwen> hit "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[01:50] <nathan> what haps if x-server crashes lol
[01:51] <nathan> cause i cant get back on here if it dont load
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> nathan: you'll get sent to the command line
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> you log in there, and do that nano command I said
[01:51] <Arwen> ^^
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> then reboot
[01:51] <nathan> got a msn addy i can add ya on my other comp incase it goes dead?
[01:51] <Arwen> you know, there's plenty of IRC clients available, I'm sure you'll manage
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> go to www.meemo.com and you can log onto IRC from there
[01:51] <Arwen> in fact, you can use IRC from the command line (with irssi)
[01:52] <nathan> i got Mirc ono ther comp but cudn get it to connect to server
[01:52] <ardchoille> I use irssi and I think it's awesome.
[01:52] <nathan> whats line i use on command line if it fails
[01:52] <nathan> o yer i  should probably save xorg.conf before i try restart lmao
[01:53] <nathan> would help
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> " sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change it back to what it was before
[01:53] <nathan> so delete the extra lines and put driver back to ATI right
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[01:54] <nathan> lemme write that line and ill give it a try
[01:54] <Arwen> make sure you do "nano -w" or the file will be garbled once you save it
[01:55] <nathan> eh
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: waa?
[01:55] <Arwen> yes, -w means no linebreaks
[01:55] <Arwen> without it, if you have a line longer than the screen, it'll get split
[01:55] <ardchoille> -w disables wrapping of long lines
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> ah!
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:56] <nathan> so would i put sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf -w
[01:56] <ardchoille> Which should be the default behaviour, IMHO
[01:56] <Arwen> -w before the filename is a better idea
[01:56] <Arwen> ardchoille, yeah...
[01:56] <nathan> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[01:57] <nathan> ok
[01:57] <nathan> wish me luck! lmao
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[01:59] <intelikey> is this a real url or a link in a page ?   https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ ???
[01:59] <Arwen> real URL
[01:59] <Arwen> many companies host files on akamai to keep stress off their servers
[01:59] <Arwen> MS does it tooo
[02:00] <Arwen> oh wait, that's not a real URL, it's mangled
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: what do you want those drivers for?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> uhhh...oh... our good freind nathan is taking a while.
[02:01] <CliffJumper> nosrednaekim: is he a *fiend*?
[02:01] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, yeah, lol
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> oh ... I always spell that wrong..
[02:02] <CliffJumper> nosrednaekim: I like when I misspell it and it makes a different, legitimate word
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> friend
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> yay! it worked!
[02:03] <intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 61.773 seconds  <<< few hours from now i'll answer.
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: gotta love that dial-up
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> who says?
[02:04] <Arwen> lol
[02:05] <intelikey> na   i don't have too       :)
[02:05] <CliffJumper> So, before *buntu, what didstros did you use?
[02:05] <webbhost> phew
[02:05] <raymond> what is the command to reconfigure xorg?
[02:06] <nalioth> raymond: /msg ubotu fixres
[02:06] <Arwen> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <MrKimm> Can anyone tell me how to change screenresolution in KDE? (as in... where is the tool)
[02:06] <webbhost> nosred
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:06] <webbhost> crashed
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> my fiend
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> CliffJumper: slack mainly
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> suse, slackware
[02:06] <MrKimm> CliffJumper, Fedora Core before Ubuntu :)
[02:06] <webbhost> im in failsafe mode, and ive changed it back
[02:06] <webbhost> but how do ya save the file lmao
[02:06] <webbhost> (nathan)
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: in nano?
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> CliffJumper: tho i am still using gentoo on my desktop
[02:06] <webbhost> yeah
[02:07] <webbhost> is it CTRL - O (WriteOut) ?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> Ctrl+x
[02:07] <CliffJumper> Gentoo for me, too
[02:07] <webbhost> exit?
[02:07] <webbhost> guessin it asks if i want to save
[02:07] <raymond> no not to fix the resolution. i just loaded the ati drivers and i want x to use them
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah, exiting works
[02:08] <webbhost> ok its wrote
[02:08] <webbhost> ill give it a hard reset, see if it loads
[02:08] <intelikey> heh my network transfer speed is a four digit number, unfortunately it's in bytes and the first digit is one...
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: edit it again and make sure its fine
[02:08] <webbhost> ok
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> 26K here baby!
[02:09] <webbhost> driver ATI, bottom lines are gone
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> great.
[02:09] <raymond> !xorg
[02:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> ok,ctrl+alt+del
[02:09] <webbhost> i reckon it could be those last 3 lines nos
[02:09] <webbhost> cause i changed them last time and it did the same
[02:09] <MrKimm> Can real noone tell me how to change screen-resolution? It shouldnt take more than a few secunds...
[02:09] <webbhost> except last time i dint know how to put it back lmao
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: hmmm... I don't know what could do it... we can check once you are back in X.
[02:10] <webbhost> woo its back in
[02:10] <webbhost> phew lol
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: good.
[02:11] <webbhost> me heart sunk when it went dead lol
[02:11] <webbhost> i was like ... no way
[02:11] <webbhost> lol
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ok now pastebin this file " /var/log/Xorg.1.log"
[02:11] <nathan> lo again
[02:11] <MrKimm> ok.... seemed to be able to figure it out after setting it to "Windows" behaviour...
[02:11] <nathan> ok should i try changing the "driver" to ATI, and restarting X-server with that alone?
[02:12] <ghsry5w56uwy6> Can anyone tell me how to install Kubuntu 7.0.4  with nvida drivers. I try to install Kubuntu and I get a black screen. I can only fin how to enable drivers after install
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin the last 200 lines or so of /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[02:12] <nathan> ok
[02:12] <nathan> mm i go sudo nano /var/log/Xorg.1.log right
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> no " cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log"
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> that'll be easier
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> no need for sudo either... you aren't editing it.
[02:13] <crusty> can someone recommend a good mp3 player for Kumbuntu that isnt Amarok?
[02:13] <intelikey> ghsry5w56uwy6 install with the "alternative" text based installer
[02:13] <nathan> nathan@nathan:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[02:13] <nathan> cat: /var/log/Xorg.1.log: No such file or directory
[02:13] <hitmanWilly> crusty: kmplayer
[02:13] <MrKimm> crusty, Noatun is good :)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> crusty: exaile
[02:13] <crusty> will try them all :p thanks =)
[02:13] <kilrae> does xmms still exist?
[02:13] <ardchoille> crusty: I use xmms and I love it
[02:14] <MrKimm> crusty, Noatun can be made to look like Winamp amoung other things :)
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> crusty: or VLC (from the web, not the repos)
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> nathan: hmm..
[02:14] <nathan> could always take a look in the folder see what "is" in there
[02:14] <ghsry5w56uwy6> intelikey: do i need to download the alternative cd to do that?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> nathan: well there is 0.log, but thats your current session
[02:14] <intelikey> ghsry5w56uwy6 yes.
[02:14] <MrKimm> Can anyone tell me why fonts look so much bigger in KDE than in GNOME/XFCE? I have to set them to size 8 to make them look like size 10
[02:15] <crusty> I have to say, as a former Windows user, that this ad and remove thing kicks ass!! no reboots or anything =)
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> nathan: go try to just switch out ATI for fglrx
[02:15] <nathan> think iv got it
[02:15] <ghsry5w56uwy6> thanks; that really sucks
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> what?
[02:15] <nathan> Xorg.0.log.old
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> crusty: indeed it does
[02:16] <ardchoille> crusty: Reboots are usually only for kernel upgrades.
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin it, we'll see
[02:16] <nathan> ok
[02:16] <kilrae> you know what i don't understand? companies (canadian ones anyway) can offer unlimited wired internet for about $40, and you can get unlimited streaming video and radio for $15 on your cell phone, but they charge you like 10 cents a kilobyte to check the weather
[02:16] <nathan> "pastebin"
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> kilrae: money making sccheme
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <nathan> pfft silly bot
[02:16] <intelikey> crusty it's not that this add/remove is so good, it's just that the M$ way is abominable.
[02:16] <nathan> ty
[02:17] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27704/
[02:17] <ardchoille> nathan: Nah, the bot's fine, you're suffering from PEBCAK, lol
[02:17] <not-Timmay> anyone use GIMP?
[02:17] <ardchoille> I use gimp
[02:17] <nathan> lol
[02:17] <nathan> whats pebcak lmao
[02:17] <crusty> nevertheless, I am realy enjoying listening to music uniterupted and mucking about with everything without the entire computer going up into flames :)
[02:17] <ardchoille> Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard
[02:18] <nathan> lol crusty u just converted from XP or summat
[02:18] <crusty> yup!
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> nathan: something's wrong with the config file
[02:18] <nathan> lol what a guess
[02:18] <nathan> guessin you mean something was wrong (until we changed it back)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> nathan: right
[02:19] <nathan> ok well shall i try change to "ati" driver and see if that loads first
[02:19] <nathan> (also it is ati all lower caps right?
[02:19] <kilrae> you sometimes need to restart
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> nathan: what are you using now?
[02:19] <hitmanWilly> nathan: looks like maybe somethings mispelled somewhere or commented where it shouldn't be
[02:19] <jarn> How do I have xinit run two commands?
[02:19] <ardchoille> kilrae: You mean reboot? Why?
[02:20] <MrKimm> Could anyone tell me why Tango looks like its missing colours in Konqueror? :S
[02:20] <nathan> you want me to pastebin curr xorg.conf?
[02:20] <kilrae> ardchoille: making changes to grub?
[02:20] <ardchoille> kilrae: Ah, yeah
[02:20] <kilrae> :P
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok... thats easy enough
[02:20] <nathan> mr kimm ya need more oranges lol
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> nathan: the one you tried to boot on previously
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> nathan: the one that generated that log
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: he edited that one unfortunately
[02:21] <nathan> mm ill av 2 look back in pastebins to find that
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm then
[02:21] <nathan> can find it in pastebins rnos
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> ah right... good idea
[02:21] <not-Timmay> ok so in GIMP I am opening an image and trying to add new text, but the text isn't the color I am choosing...how can I get it to be the color I want?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27694/
[02:21] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27694/
[02:21] <nathan> lol beat me to it
[02:22] <nathan> hmm
[02:22] <nathan> jjust had a thought
[02:22] <nathan> line 142, im still missing a tab aint i?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> no.
[02:23] <nathan> I dont need a tab between the "composite" and "false" then
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> but it doesn't like line 142
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> no
[02:23] <nathan> that log say it dint like it?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> yeah. it said there was a parsing error on line 142
[02:23] <nathan> o ye
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> do you want 3d acceleration?
[02:24] <nathan> genearlly speaking yeah cause i got a radio flight sim
[02:24] <nathan> but will have to do that via some form of emulator i think
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:24] <nathan> i doubt theres a linux version for it
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> nathan: which radio flight emulator?
[02:24] <nathan> realflight G3
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> nathan: sweet... wish I had that.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> i'm a RC plane guy too
[02:25] <nathan> cool man lol
[02:25] <nathan> Helicopters here lol but its all good ai
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> thats one linux app i've never found.. there is flightgear tho... TAHT is nice
[02:25] <nathan> i like the planes just as much :P just not brave enough to try building one lol
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> anyway... lemme see whats with that line 142
[02:26] <nathan> ok
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: that's just the end of the file
[02:26] <bob_> i just installed the feisty 32 bit and wanted to know should i add an antivirus program
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> 143 is the end of the file..
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> bob_: nope.. no need
[02:27] <bob_> ok just checking
[02:27] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: the console calls the first line 0, not one like the pastebin
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> unzip has me peeved.  i want to take a group of archives and extract into subdirectories based on the archive filename.  easy enough from konqueror (using ark's integration), but i can't for the life of me figure out how to do it with unzip
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> AH!
[02:27] <not-Timmay> ok so in GIMP I am opening an image and trying to add new text, but the text isn't the color I am choosing...how can I get it to be the color I want?
[02:27] <bob_> came from windows 98 so just wanted to make sure
[02:27] <nathan> so we may be 1 line off?
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: im going through it looking for missing close ", etc
[02:28] <bob_> have a nice evening
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> ah right.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> bob_: you have just taken about 100 steps up OS Evolution ladder.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i would like to be the first to say congratulations
[02:28] <bob_> thank you
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> I would like to be first... but I can't ;)
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> you can be second, and two is higher than one! </grade school logic>
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: I don't see anything wrong.
[02:30] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: nah, im not seeing anything either...
[02:30] <nathan> nosrednaekim: what happens if we dont add htose lines at bottom?
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: you forgot to enter grade school logic... or have you been using it ever since I came in here?
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, i suppose i could attempt to write a shell script to do what i want with unzip...
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> nathan: i'm not sure. I think 3d acceration just doesn't work.
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: whoops :)
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:30] <nathan> :( lol
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i have exactly *no* experience writing shell scripts...
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> nathan: but thats only temporary.
[02:31] <jhutchins> not-Timmay: You have to use teh color chooser to set foreground/background colors for the current operation.
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> it may have a jacked EOF marker or something
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> time to learn by doing :D
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: maybe we should just replace it with mine?
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: how close is it?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> everything but the screen and the busID
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> resolutions I mean
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: ok, that's easily fixed
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> right... working on it.
[02:32] <nathan> how  ome it be temporary?
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> back in a minute...bio break
[02:34] <trakinas> has anyone here ever ran any 3d app with SiS boards?
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> nathan: we're fixing it to be permanat
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: fugettaboutit
[02:35] <nathan> you work for linux then?
[02:35] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: heeheheh. i kind of tried it again, knowing it will never work just for the sake of "i cannot be beaten by a non-living creature""
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> nathan: no. we;re fixing your xorg config file
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> and erase everything in there.
[02:37] <nathan> ooh lol
[02:37] <nathan> ok
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> then go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27707/plain/
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> and put all that text in the file
[02:37] <_gtt_> anyone have problems with k3b recognizing media changes?
[02:38] <_gtt_> (swapping disks and it doesn't even know i've opened the tray)
[02:39] <nathan> nosred is it possible to save xorg.conf current as xorg.conf.backup, then save new
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> nathan: good idea... yeah, do that
[02:39] <nathan> so if new one dont work, can delete .conf and rename right?
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:40] <trakinas> _gtt_: i got problems with the kernel and my dvd drive. does it makes you feel better?
[02:41] <nathan> whats command again, i losti t
[02:41] <nathan> nah i got it
[02:41] <nathan> ok saved
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:42] <yurimxpxman> with inkscape, is there any way to make a certain portion of an image transparent throughout all of the layers in that area?
[02:42] <webbhost> ok going to speak on here whilst i restart X-server
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> yurimxpxman: #inkscape
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok,
[02:42] <webbhost> ooh
[02:42] <webbhost> looking good
[02:43] <webbhost> o wait
[02:43] <webbhost> would help if i dint just "log off"..
[02:43] <webbhost> im a tit
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> don't hard restart if it fails
[02:43] <webbhost> ok i wont
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> you don't have to restart the computer
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> just press ctrl+alt+del on the login screen
[02:44] <webbhost> loaded back up believe it or not
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm...  bleh.
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> and that will restart the x server which is all that matters
[02:44] <webbhost> i pressed restart X-server and it went black then went to login screen
[02:44] <webbhost> so i logged in again
[02:44] <webbhost> ooh
[02:44] <webbhost> and projector works!
[02:44] <webbhost> neat
[02:44] <webbhost> you truly are a god
[02:44] <webbhost> lol
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> no i'm not
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: ctrl-alt-bksp
[02:45] <webbhost> well ya ent no but it sounded good at the time lol
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> haha... oh man./.. its getting late here
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just a man.  a man with the powers of a god, but a man nonetheless.
[02:45] <nathan> just need to turn me res down no so it fits all in the screen llo
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> nathan: oh... well...
[02:46] <nathan> lol
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> I have NO CLUE how to do that stuff
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> I think it has to be the same res for both monitors.
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> not sure on that.
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> you can go into system settings-> display and change the res.
[02:47] <nathan> woo
[02:47] <rixxon> The quality of video and audio sucks in kubuntu compared to my previous archlinux installation, am I missing something?
[02:48] <nathan> all i need to do now is install the eqivilent of powerDVD and im ready! lol
[02:48] <rixxon> I doubt it is the codecs or applications, I have tried mplayer too
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> rixxon: dunno, drivers?
[02:48] <rixxon> Possibly?
[02:48] <nathan> i changed res on both btw nos lol this is how i had it on XP anyway
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, cool
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> !dvd | nathan
[02:49] <ubotu> nathan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:49] <nathan> nosrednaekim: got any recommended ... you beat me to it lol
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:50] <nathan> luckil adept is one of the things i DO know how to use ll
[02:51] <not-Timmay> does anyone use GIMP?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> #gimp
[02:51] <not-Timmay> no one is talking in there
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> must avoid ball-gag and gimp suit jokes...
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, couldn't do it.
[02:52] <hitmanWilly> XD
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, laterz I have to run
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> maybe they're all in their boxes?
[02:53] <nathan> laterz nosred, again thanks a million for your help, much appreciated mate
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> see ya around
[02:53] <nathan> yup :)
[02:53] <rixxon> nosrednaekim: how do I check what drivers I use
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> come back if you have any problems... i'm ussually on
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> rixxon: glxconfig
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> sorry, glxinfo
[02:55] <mneptok> Misssster Aaaaanderson
[02:56] <bob_> i have a tiger jet network modem installed but not working and needed to know if driver is issue or modem will not work
[02:56] <rixxon> nosrednaekim: kinda cryptic
[02:56] <roho> i'm using konqueror. up until yesterday, flash worked fine everywhere. now, it only works in a couple places. notably, i can't use youtube at all. i reinstalled all flash-related packages and it still doesn't work.  anyone have an idea as to what i should do next?
[02:58] <roho> anyone?
[02:58] <hitmanWilly> roho: youtube uses java as well, correct? maybe reinstall that...
[02:59] <roho> weird.
[02:59] <roho> alright
[03:00] <roho> i haven't changed anything
[03:00] <roho> everything worked fine
[03:01] <Schuenemann> which program can I use for inserting subtitles in an AVI file?
[03:01] <not-Timmay> how come (in GIMP) when i open an image and try to use the text tool it doesn't use the color I selected it uses an old color?
[03:04] <trakinas> not-Timmay: it has a separated color for the text
[03:04] <trakinas> see the text tool dialog
[03:04] <dewey> good day mates
[03:05] <dewey> I am here via gutsy-gibbon2
[03:06] <not-Timmay> trakinas: right i have selected an orange-redish color in the text tool section, the FG and BG and it shows up as grey
[03:06] <sparr> how can i avoid clamav upgrade warnings in my cron output?  without updating clamav more often than packaging allows
[03:08] <not-Timmay> i chose blue, red, yellow and green and every time i try to type text it shows up grey
[03:08] <trakinas> not-Timmay: send a screen shot of your tools to me.
[03:08] <trakinas> put it in imageshack.us
[03:08] <trakinas> and i will see what i can do. if i cant help, #gimp
[03:09] <rixxon> Any ideas why the sound quality is shit?
[03:09] <trakinas> this is #kubuntu, and I have things to do. :/ sorry
[03:10] <not-Timmay> yea i'm in the gimp chat an no one is talking...
[03:10] <not-Timmay> where do you want me to send the SS?
[03:10] <not-Timmay> oh nvm
[03:10] <not-Timmay> i c
[03:12] <not-Timmay> http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7092/ss0001bz1.jpg
[03:13] <not-Timmay> trakinas: there ya go
[03:13] <not-Timmay> i really hope you can help cause I'm stuck..
[03:14] <rixxon> Haha, this is just typical. My headphone was not fully plugged in, hence the shitty audio quality.
[03:16] <not-Timmay> if I start a new file it will work, but it isn't allowing me to use a current image and put the text in my color on the image
[03:16] <noredna> rixxon: lol
[03:17] <noredna> and your video cable probably wasn;'t plugged in either
[03:17] <not-Timmay> but if i copy and poste the text with the color i want it turns it into grey again
[03:17] <noredna> accounting for the poor video quality
[03:19] <rixxon> Video was never bad though, it just felt bad as a cause of the audio
[03:22] <theone_> Hi all, I'm having problems with Squid 2.6 on ubuntu server 7.04. I'm able to get a connection using Firefox by setting up the proxy settings using port 3128 but nothing else gets an internet connection. Can someone point me in the right direction to get it to be transparent. I've followed several tutorials and none have worked for me.
[03:26] <webbhost> hmm peeps
[03:26] <webbhost> jus clicked log off on me comp, its gone black screen with mouse, not moving
[03:26] <webbhost> (just done 150 updates tho) - is it normal for it to take a few minutes?
[03:29] <intelikey> webbhost no.
[03:29] <webbhost> guessin its time for a hard reset then?
[03:30] <intelikey> give it 10 minutes   possable network timeout   no longer
[03:30] <webbhost> ko
[03:31] <TheWoozle> Can anyone recommend a good place to go for help with making WLAN work under kubuntu 7.04? I haven't been able to get mine to work reliably, although it was fine under 6.10.
[03:31] <intelikey> there is nothing that should be able to hold one more than 10 min
[03:31] <intelikey> and it snouldn't wait for a timeout on halt/reboot   but that doesn't mean it wont.
[03:31] <dsmith_> hello room
[03:32] <webbhost> hi
[03:32] <intelikey> !wifi | TheWoozle these docs are all i know about
[03:32] <ubotu> TheWoozle these docs are all i know about: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:32] <TheWoozle> Thx. /me looks at...
[03:32] <webbhost> sod it ill restart it... taking too long
[03:33] <yurimxpxman> is there anyone in here who's handy with inkscape? #inkscape isn't very talkative tonight :-)
[03:33] <TheWoozle> (I've *probably* checked those already, and got a bunch of new commands, but I'm still left with some mysteries.)
[03:36] <trakinas> not-Timmay: if you are doing a webpage menu with gifs, DONT. lol
[03:36] <level1> Hi, my computer has been doing this thing when It resumes from suspend, some times, but not all the time, the keyboard will be completely unresponsive, and the touchpad (its a laptop)... the usb mouse works fine, and I can see the login box, but I can't type my password, so I have no choice but to force reboot my computer
[03:36] <trakinas> accessibility, my friend. =P
[03:37] <level1> gifs are quite obsolete
[03:37] <level1> use png
[03:38] <not-Timmay> trakinas: yea i just saw why it was doing that...i'm using jpg now
[03:38] <dsmith_> gifs are oldddd
[03:38] <not-Timmay> or do you have another suggestion?
[03:38] <trakinas> not-Timmay: =P
[03:38] <not-Timmay> lol hey i just use whatever the monkey give me....i didn't look at the ext until i tried saving it
[03:38] <trakinas> not-Timmay: if you have to change your text colour, you must double click on it, or else it wont change the text colour or any other properties.
[03:39] <Schuenemann> level1, can png be animated?
[03:39] <trakinas> not-Timmay: i suggest not using images in menus.
[03:39] <level1> Schuenemann: not an expert, but i think not
[03:39] <trakinas> not-Timmay: if you want a gradient, you can use a background image, but NOT TEXT IMAGE.
[03:39] <level1> Schuenemann: there is a png based animation standard, but i don't think its widely used
[03:39] <not-Timmay> they are going to be buttons on the webpage...and unfortunatley i don't get to tell them what to do LOL
[03:40] <Schuenemann> k
[03:40] <trakinas> not-Timmay: you still can use backgrounds-images and pure texts
[03:40] <trakinas> *background.
[03:40] <not-Timmay> yea but they want them shaded certain ways
[03:41] <trakinas> not-Timmay: the text?
[03:41] <not-Timmay> yea
[03:41] <trakinas> oh damn. :/
[03:41] <trakinas> lol
[03:41] <not-Timmay> yea :(
[03:41] <not-Timmay> lol
[03:41] <not-Timmay> means more work for me
[03:41] <intelikey> not-Timmay what ever you do.  open the page in a text based browser and look at it one time before you ok it.     lynx or w3b maybe.
[03:42] <trakinas> not-Timmay: in anyways, dont forget the title=" " on everyimage
[03:42] <not-Timmay> lol
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- I think animated PNG's are called MNG's. Not many programs support them yet
[03:42] <not-Timmay> yea the html code is finished, just need the artwork
[03:42] <trakinas> if for some reason the image link is broken, you still can navigate through it.
[03:43] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: including IE
[03:43] <Schuenemann> trakinas, shouldn't it be the ALT attribute?
[03:43] <trakinas> Schuenemann: I use both. i never know. lol
[03:43] <Schuenemann> title is for displaying a hint when the mover hovers it
[03:44] <not-Timmay> thanks for the help, back to the "drawing board" hehe
[03:44] <trakinas> Schuenemann: but i guess alt is what shows up on hover, and title what is beneath the image.
[03:44] <Schuenemann> alt is for when the image isn't loaded (and is obligated)
[03:44] <intelikey> mng   yuch  something else to slow down the loading of pages.
[03:44] <trakinas> not-Timmay: good luck!
[03:44] <not-Timmay> thanks
[03:44] <Schuenemann> trakinas, it's actually the opposite
[03:44] <trakinas> Schuenemann: thanks! i told you. i never know.
[03:44] <Schuenemann> how come never? I just told you
[03:45] <trakinas> Schuenemann: he!
[03:45] <root__> beryl is for gnome? whats the package for kde?
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> Guess he didn't care
[03:47] <Schuenemann> who?
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> Or realized you should never IRC as root
[03:47] <tinin> Hi! I get a weird message in k3b: "cdrecord will be run without root privileges"  Could someone tell me how to change this?
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> tinin: k3bsetup
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> Why do you need to burn a CD as root?
[03:48] <level1> Dragnslcr: for some reason, your not part of cdrom unless you manually do it
[03:48] <tinin> Daisuke_Ido that command is not on my system
[03:48] <tinin> i tried
[03:48] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: he said the msg is weird, not he cant burn it with root privileges.
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm
[03:49] <level1> that sounds like a cdrom group problem to me, one of the many quirks of ubuntu
[03:49] <tinin> old versions of k3b had a gui to do this
[03:49] <trakinas> I know that for some reason kubuntu kernel does not likes my dvd device.
[03:49] <tinin> it was k3bsetup2
[03:50] <level1> is there a way to run a mini-desktop environment in some sort of virtualized context so that I don't have to log out?  I want to try out enlightenment
[03:51] <intelikey> level1 shitch users
[03:51] <Evolution2> i cant seem to empty my trash can. am i doing something wrong
[03:51] <tinin> level1 yes, dowload an enlightenment live cd and run it under virtualbox
[03:51] <tinin> enlightenment is really nice
[03:51] <level1> intelikey: my graphics card doesn't support switching to a virtual terminal
[03:52] <intelikey> level1 no. the menu selection  "switch users"
[03:52] <level1> tinin: I've run it before, and it didn't have any programs installed (I don't think it even had terminal) so I couldn't do anything... it didn't detect and gnome or kde programs either
[03:52] <intelikey> it leaves your desktop and starts another one.
[03:52] <tinin> level1 you can have it installed and chose in your kdm session
[03:53] <tinin> so you can modify it
[03:53] <level1> like, there literally was nothing to do but log out
[03:53] <trakinas> question: i cant switch back to the tty where KDE is running when going to tty1, for exemple. i mean, all alt+control+f* shows the same screen.
[03:53] <tinin> but its a bit buggy still
[03:53] <level1> tinin: what do you mean?
[03:54] <intelikey> level1 and can you explain that post please ? "<level1> intelikey: my graphics card doesn't support switching to a virtual terminal"  <<< hardware never supports that.  the kernel does.
[03:54] <tinin> for example i can not put it in spanish all the menu, and that sux for me
[03:55] <tinin> i've got the latest version of e17 and it's in alfa state
[03:55] <trakinas> tinin: help on translating it. it hasnt being all traslated yet (probably)
[03:55] <intelikey> trakinas press the button that disables the "internet + multimedia" extentions of your keyboard off.  then alt will work.
[03:55] <tinin> trakinas it has a good translation yet
[03:55] <trakinas> tinin: e17 is alpha. always was. and always will be
[03:55] <tinin> no
[03:56] <tinin> they're getting better
[03:56] <tinin> and really close to an stable release
[03:56] <level1> intelikey: tell that to ati
[03:57] <trakinas> intelikey: where is it located? what I meant it i cant get back to X if i go to any other tty.
[03:57] <BrightEyes`> whats the similar beryl package for KDE ?
[03:57] <trakinas> tinin: but it is alpha since i 2002, if my memory does not tricky me.
[03:57] <tinin> i'm installing an old computer tonight, I got it for my mom and i was thinking of installing her e17 or something nice and speedy
[03:57] <trakinas> BrightEyes`: not beryl, xgl. is AIGLX
[03:58] <BrightEyes`> oh
[03:58] <trakinas> tinin: hmmmm... will she get used to clicks on desktop showing menus? =P
[03:58] <tinin> trakinas yes, but since ps3, they seem to claim the're more stable. It is beeing used under yellow dog distro for ps3
[03:58] <intelikey> trakinas yes i understand.    try alt+f7    if that's one of those 114 key keyboards with the scroll wheel   you have to press the upper most left button   before the alt and ctrl keys work togather.
[03:58] <BrightEyes`> trakinas: which is better beryl or AIGLX?
[03:59] <trakinas> and i prefered e17 2005~2006 desklets, when they were indenpendent.
[03:59] <trakinas> BrightEyes`: I meant: you will still run Beryl, but instead of using xgl+beryl, it would be beryl_aiglx
[03:59] <trakinas> if im not wrong...
[03:59] <tinin> trakinas you should try it lately, it even has got desktop icons, the same as my kde/gnome ones
[03:59] <trakinas> tinin: i kind of dont use desktop icons...
[04:00] <intelikey> level1 your vidio driver is the issue.    let me guess   ati + amd64 bit    on a laptop ?
[04:00] <trakinas> intelikey: it could be intel! =P
[04:00] <tinin> i do, i need a simple desktop for my mom, but icewm is awful
[04:01] <tinin> i don't know other ones
[04:01] <aroo> tinin: xfce is light and easy
[04:01] <trakinas> tinin: xfce.
[04:01] <Evolution2> intelikey: i need some help with my recycling bin on KDE. it wont let me empty it.
[04:01] <intelikey> tinin i like blackbox or fluxbox
[04:02] <trakinas> also *box +desklets and a program that puts icons on xfce and box that i forgot the name
[04:02] <tinin> i'm downloading xubuntu, i'll try but seems like gnome
[04:02] <intelikey> Evolution2 open a konsole and use the rm command on it
[04:02] <aroo> tinin: it is quite similar, is that a problem?
[04:02] <tinin> yes
[04:03] <tinin> i wanted a start
[04:03] <tinin> menu
[04:03] <tinin> like kde/winblows
[04:03] <tj_> how do i install my mic in my gnome installation it did it automatically
[04:03] <intelikey> tinin there is one.  right click
[04:03] <aroo> tinin: you know you can move and edit default gnome windows?
[04:03] <aroo> tinin: menus rather
[04:04] <tinin> i feel very stupid with gnome and mom is learning windows right now, but i WONT let her use that
[04:04] <intelikey> tinin or do you mean in xfce4 ?   there's one there too
[04:04] <trakinas> tj_: just plug and be happy.
[04:04] <trakinas> but check if channels arent mute
[04:04] <trakinas> tinin: GOOD BOY!
[04:05] <tj_> it is plugged in where can i see that channels status
[04:05] <intelikey> and gnome has a menu also.  you don't have to use that three teir thing they default to
[04:05] <aroo> tinin: guess you'll just stick with Windows then if you want a Windows only look
[04:05] <tinin> finished downloading, i'm going to partitionate, has xubuntu gparted?
[04:05] <tinin> aroo noNOnoNO
[04:05] <intelikey> i'm sure
[04:06] <trakinas> i kind of get pissed off with my college "digital inclusion program". they teach windows (at least not office, rather OpenOffice) to poor people and old fellas. dude... how they suppose to aquite a windows licence? if they manage to buy an used or even new pc they probably will go for piracy.
[04:06] <intelikey> aroo why kde comes close enough to fool most people
[04:06] <tinin> i wanted a compiz look, but this was a donated old pc
[04:06] <tinin> i'd like to show her kde
[04:06] <aroo> kde on an old pc? yuck
[04:06] <tinin> i guess
[04:07] <trakinas> tinin: yep. dont try to give it a complete windows look-n-feel.
[04:07] <trakinas> aroo: he said he WOULD like. hehe
[04:07] <level1> intelikey: you were talking about my video card... I'm on a stock 32 bit intel, but with fglrx
[04:08] <level1> When in enlightenment, how do I switch back to my kde session?  and don't tell me alt-ctrl-F7, that didn't work
[04:09] <trakinas> level1: left click, log-out session
[04:09] <intelikey> level1 as i said before hardware matters not.  the kernel is what supports the consoles and even xorg is running in a console.   it you can't switch between consoles (probably because they don't display correctly) it's a software issue.  the vidio driver interfeering with the kernels use of the vidio hardware.
[04:10] <clouder`grr> Anyone here use the alternate cd with LVM?  If so, any major bugs or issues I should be aware of before giving it a go?
[04:10] <level1> intelikey: yes you are right... but is there a single program that can fix it for this particular graphics card?  If not, then its as good as a hardware issue
[04:11] <intelikey> and if you setup your keyboard correctly alt+crtl+f# does work.
[04:11] <mneptok> trakinas: people get taught that stuff because that's all the instructors know.
[04:11] <level1> trakinas: but what if I don't want to log out?
[04:11] <mneptok> trakinas: i.e. don't order steak at a vegan restaurant
[04:11] <level1> intelikey: well, it just beep and didn't do anything
[04:11] <intelikey> level1 try   alt+sysRQ+R then alt+ctrl+f#
[04:12] <intelikey> beep means the input is not usable.
[04:12] <intelikey> thus the keyboard is not configured correctly
[04:13] <level1> intelikey: it works fine in kde
[04:13] <intelikey> level1 cause kde remaps the keboard
[04:13] <arrautza> hi guy & girls... wanna know what is the real meaning og "purging" on adept?
[04:13] <level1> except for windows key... that doesn't work for some reason
[04:14] <trakinas> arrautza: if Im not wrong, purge removes the program itself, the source, and the deb's.
[04:14] <level1> arrautza: is it different than apt-get remove --purge?
[04:14] <tj_> kde is better then gnome but windows is a hell of a lot easier
[04:15] <intelikey> level1 you are describing (over and over) keyboard input error/s    setup your xorg and any deasktop envs to use the keyboard correctly and you'll quit cussin' your hardware.  :)
[04:15] <arrautza> should i remove or purg??
[04:15] <GrueTamer> remove removes the regular files, purge gets rid of the config files too
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> tj_: try purging mcafee sometime and then tell me that again :P
[04:15] <trakinas> i was going to point that it depends on where you start learning to use a computer: if on a windows, or if on kde...
[04:15] <intelikey> hitmanWilly too late
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> ah, crap...
[04:16] <level1> arrautza: remove, that way if you reinstall you can get some of the configuration back, unless you are having trouble, then purge
[04:16] <arrautza> if i wont to back to past configuration.... should i purg?...
[04:16] <arrautza> ok
[04:16] <arrautza> thk
[04:16] <intelikey> trakinas heh  yeah and also what you try to do on the computer
[04:16] <arrautza> that was what i wanna konw
[04:16] <arrautza> know
[04:16] <arrautza> bye
[04:17] <trakinas> intelikey: sure!
[04:17] <intelikey> ok i have to burn a disk and work on that lappy some more.
[04:19] <trakinas> i have to finish a program for oop class tomorrow. Im stucked. the code we are doing is damn buggy.
[04:23] <intelikey> well the burning was short and sweet... if only the rest would go so smoothly
[04:24] <intelikey> back in a few.
[04:31] <roho> ok, i've updated all the java and flash packages - flash *still* doesn't work in konqueror
[04:31] <roho> has anyone had a problem like this?
[04:31] <roho> oh, and i've rescanned for plugins too
[04:32] <roho> i can do homestar but not youtube :(
[04:37] <_michael> Hello I have a question if I were to use the apt upgrade tool to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, would it overwrite my current files like a fresh install or would it be as if I had simply updated the system keeping my current configurations?
[04:37] <roho> i've looked at all the docs and no luck.
[04:38] <roho> someone's gotta know how to fix this problem
[04:38] <rockets> How can I make yakuake run automatically?
[04:41] <roho> or maybe someone could tell me what the actual plugin filename is?
[04:41] <rockets> roho: can you restate your question? sorry
[04:42] <kamui> I hate to be a pest, but how do I get the win32 codecs using apt?  I though I already had universe selected from synaptic but apt-cache search reveals no such win32 codecs package (w32codecs I believe it is)
[04:42] <rockets> kamui: medibuntu repository
[04:42] <jriachi> !codecs
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <rockets> kamui: go to google, type medibuntu and click im feeling lucky
[04:43] <roho> rockets: ok, i've updated all the java and flash packages - flash *still* doesn't work in konqueror
[04:43] <rockets> thatll take you straight to it
[04:43] <snake> hi
[04:43] <rockets> roho: hmm. let me see if flash works in mine, i use firefox
[04:43] <roho> flash works in firefox
[04:43] <roho> but i want to use konqueror
[04:43] <rockets> i know
[04:43] <roho> and a couple days ago, flash worked fine
[04:43] <roho> ok
[04:43] <rockets> im seeing if it works in my konqueror
[04:43] <roho> k
[04:44] <rockets> yeah it does
[04:44] <rockets> ok so
[04:44] <rockets> have you tried marking flash for COMPLETE removal
[04:44] <rockets> as opposed to just remove
[04:44] <roho> done it already
[04:44] <rockets> hmm
[04:44] <snake> i wanted to know how can i do to format an existing partition where i have windows and merge it with my linux partition
[04:44] <roho> tell me about your plugins list
[04:44] <roho> what's the first few entries?
[04:44] <rockets> how do i view it? i dont use konq
[04:44] <rockets> about:plugins?
[04:44] <rockets> yeah
[04:45] <rockets> i have
[04:45] <roho> no
[04:45] <roho> settings
[04:45] <rockets> libflashplayer.so
[04:45] <roho> configure konqueror
[04:45] <rockets> yeah it is actually at about:plugins as well
[04:45] <roho> i want to know the order of directories
[04:45] <rockets> uh
[04:45] <rockets> ok
[04:46] <rockets> its a lot to type, pm me
[04:46] <kamui> thanks, that did it rockets
[04:47] <BluesKaj> I have flash, xine , helix, nppdf plugins ...so far all the sites with media work with these 4 on Konq
[04:48] <rockets> kamui: welcome :-D
[04:49] <rockets> BluesKaj: apple.com is tricky. they started detecting that you're not using quicktime, so the movies embedded on the site begin to play just fine and then it goes to please install quicktime
[04:49] <Evolution2> i have just applied an iconset and it was working fine but all of the sudden opening up my home directory, the icons became alot smaller for some reason. help please
[04:49] <rockets> I donnu how it works but if you install quicktime with crossover office, it actually lets you use it as a Linux firefox plugin
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yeah rockets , i think mplayer or VLC  does quicktime in linuxz
[04:53] <Evolution2> anyone
[04:54] <trakinas> i was able to play quicktime and real on mplayer in my gentoo.
[04:54] <trakinas> i didnt install any of them here on kubuntu, though. didnt need yet.
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> i wouldn't guarantee kubuntu would work with that, they have a tendency to cripple proprietary codec support, ala VLC
[04:58] <TubaSoldier> I'm having a bit of an issue. Konqueror keeps having a Segmentation fault every time i try to run it. anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:58] <bbalin> where is an off topic room
[04:58] <bbalin> ?
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> TubaSoldier: try running it in konsole and see what the output is, that may help in diagnosing the problem
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> bbalin: #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:59] <TubaSoldier> hitmanWilly, I did. that is the reason I know it is a segmentation default. that is the only return i get
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, maybe reinstall it?
[05:00] <TubaSoldier> hmmm
[05:00] <TubaSoldier> ok
[05:00] <TubaSoldier> i didnt want to go that far but if i have to...
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> TubaSoldier: it sounds like a bad build or corrupted download
[05:01] <TubaSoldier> it was fine before i updated
[05:01] <rockets> Any idea how to make yakuake, or any other command for that matter, run at the beginning of all my kde sessions
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> TubaSoldier: yeah, bad download probably
[05:01] <rockets> aside from saving sessions
[05:01] <TubaSoldier> and all that was updated was a few libraries for groupware
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> rockets: link it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:02] <rockets> hitmanWilly: Great, thanks!
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> rockets: anything in that dir will run when kde starts
[05:02] <TubaSoldier> thanks for your input hitmanWilly
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> np
[05:11] <theRealballchalk> http://cmynhier.blogspot.com/2006/05/zfs-benchmarking.html at #opensolaris
[05:14] <roho> spam?
[05:16] <TeraDyne> roho: he's been doing stuff like that off and on all day.
[05:16] <roho> death!
[05:16] <roho> is there a kapplet or utility that shows public ip address?
[05:17] <tackat_> In bash or csh, how do I create a String like "0014" from a number "14" ?
[05:17] <ses1959_> what modem would you buy for linux and where would you buy from
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ses1959_,  a dial up modem?
[05:18] <rixxon> Does a fresh kubuntu installation really use up 8 GB?!
[05:18] <roho> i used a US Robotics 56K *external* modem once.  Worked perfectly in linux.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> rixxon,  i dont see how. it comes on a single cd.. that would be some amazing compression
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> rixxon: yup, its a kitchen sink distro
[05:18] <roho> external modems are cool because they have lights and it's easy to see connection duration and such
[05:18] <rixxon> Dr_willis: exactly my point...
[05:18] <ses1959_> i am sorry yes a 56k dial up
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Now 8gb of packages... - yes.. you proberly could get that much let me check mine.
[05:18] <roho> ses1959_: see my comment above
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> rixxon: that may also be for swap space, etc
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> rixxon: as well as temp dirs
[05:19] <Dr_willis> usong 9.7 gb right now.. but i got a lot of video and other files and iso's as well
[05:19] <roho> ses1959_: http://www.usr.com/products/home/home-product.asp?sku=USR5686E
[05:19] <CrunchyChrist> Does anyone have an informaiton on getting a Dell WLAN 1300 to work with kubuntu?
[05:19] <rixxon> Ah true, 2,6 used really
[05:19] <roho> that's one
[05:19] <Dr_willis> and i install LOTS of things.
[05:19] <roho> kind of expensive though
[05:19] <rixxon> Stupid me. Or perhaps evil konqueror media:/ kioslave
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ses1959_,  may want to do some googling. Ive had much better luck in ages past with real 'external' hardware modems.. but heck. aint seen any of those sold in ages...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> plus they were like $100 8 yrs ago. :)
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: i think i saw an old 28.8 one at the flea market the other day...
[05:20] <MaTiAz> rixxon: If you don't want to waste any space at all, do Linux From Scratch :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  :) i got several of those also. and some 33.6s
[05:21] <roho> the one i pasted was like $95
[05:21] <rixxon> Kinda wierd though, media:/ claims 8GB is used on the sda1 partition, which really is not true
[05:21] <rixxon> Perhaps a KDE "bug"
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: beeeeeeeeeeeeep, hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Connected
[05:21] <Dr_willis> roho,  so thats about right then. :) $100 was not expensive.. for a real modem. heh - these cheap win-modems got everyone spoiled.
[05:21] <TeraDyne> hitmanWilly: I actually saw one of the old pre 28.8 external modem at a local thrift store one time.
[05:21] <rixxon> It seems to use statistics for sda as a whole but pretend it is for sda1
[05:21] <TeraDyne> $10
[05:22] <roho> Dr_willis: external modems rock.  that is, if you have to have dial-up
[05:22] <rixxon> MaTiAz: I used to run Arch Linux, a base installation was like 250 MB or something.
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> did they ever make them to support v.90?
[05:22] <MaTiAz> rixxon: Heh, that's nice :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> puppy linux, or dsl  is real small also.,
[05:22] <roho> hitmanWilly: yes
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> i was onto internals by that point...
[05:23] <Dr_willis> back when 4k/s download speed was fast
[05:23] <rixxon> Ubuntu's not really my fav distro but I like the KDE setup and solong it works, I can't be bothered with the details.
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> even before my linux days
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> win 95 by that point, and lynx for dialing BBSs
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Using LinuxMint at the moment. (a ubuntu spin off) :) so Ubuntu (and its variants) are my fave.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> I got external serial modems i used on my amigas :)
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> as far as binary distros, still a slack guy myself
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> or the many variants
[05:28] <Dr_willis> I use Slax live cd all the time. but dont care much for a slax install.
[05:28] <TeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Wolvix! My favorite LiveCD distro.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> wolvix is nice in many ways.
[05:28] <MaTiAz> I really didn't bother much with Linux, until I tried it and solved all my problems
[05:29] <MaTiAz> Now I'm somewhat a fulltime user :)
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> nah, my last foray into slack was with Vector, that distro was pretty nice
[05:29] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to save the wallpaper I made with the gradients, svg, etc.? Like export it to PNG, I mean
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> until i started using gentoo anyway :)
[05:31] <morshis1514> hello
[05:31] <morshis1514> hola
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> morshis1514: howdy
[05:32] <TeraDyne> morshis1514: hi.
[05:34] <Ze-M> how can i uninstall a rpm with apt but without verying dependencies?
[05:34] <Ze-M> how can i uninstall a package with apt but without verying dependencies?
[05:43] <intelikey> Ze-M ?
[05:43] <intelikey> use dpkg ?
[05:43] <Ze-M> intelikey: how
[05:46] <CrunchyChrist> Does anyone have any informaiton on getting a Dell WLAN 1300 to work with kubuntu?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> force somthing to Uninstall,, and let the uninstall break dependencies of other packages?
[05:56] <kamui> anyone know if the Xorg nvidia driver supports aiglx or any acceleration at all?
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> kamui: the proprietary one or the nv one?
[05:59] <kamui> the nv one
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> kamui: i don't believe so
[05:59] <kamui> I've already learned that the proprietary one is a piece of schmitt with beryl
[05:59] <kamui> crap
[05:59] <kamui> I can't seem to rotate my display (tablet pc) with xgl, so Im at a total loss now
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> kamui: usually the nvidia one is pretty good
[06:00] <Yorokobi> kamui, I use the proprietary nVidia drivers with Beryl and it works great
[06:00] <kamui> do you
[06:00] <kamui> how do you get past the black windows
[06:00] <Yorokobi> I don't have black windows
[06:00] <kamui> sometimes I have windows that either turn black or don't redraw if I open more than 8 windows
[06:00] <kamui> my taskbar also dissapears sometimes
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> kamui: what gfx card and what driver?
[06:01] <kamui> nvidia 100.whatever (latest) + nvidia go 6200 TE
[06:01] <Yorokobi> kamui, do you have all the necessary options Loaded for X? (dbe, vbe, dri, glx, ddc, etc.)?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> kamui: thats a somewhat weird card (tablet version), you may want to try just the regular nvidia-glx ones
[06:02] <kamui> I think so, though I have no dbe dri or ddc loaded
[06:03] <kamui> hitmanwilly: where would I go about gettin ghte nvidia-glx drivers if its not what I downloaded from the nvidia website
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> kamui: apt
[06:03] <Yorokobi> kamui, add them to your xorg.conf, restart X, see what happens.
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> kamui: they're in the repos :)
[06:04] <Yorokobi> kamui, and use the drivers from the repos as hitmanWilly suggests.
[06:04] <kamui> ok, Im gonna switch back to aiglx
[06:04] <kamui> brb
[06:05] <klobster> how do i get the mplayer plugin to work with firefox (and not hang in konq)?
[06:07] <kamui> hitmanWilly:  once I download nvidia-glx do I put that in my driver option to replace driver "nvidia"?
[06:07] <kamui> well, brb
[06:09] <Dr_willis> theres a command line command that can do that.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Oh well.
[06:10] <Yorokobi> Dr_willis, kamui was already using the nvidia drivers. S/he shouldn't need to change that in the xorg.conf
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. then why was he downloading nvidia-glx then?
[06:11] <Yorokobi> to use the repo version instead of the ones from the nvidia website
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ahh. i missed that then. :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> http://desktop.google.com/linux/    - Cool - new toy
[06:12] <jontec> dangett... I can't remember if it's mysql-client that I have to install or mysql server... which one?
[06:12] <Yorokobi> heh, don't ask nixternal about it :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jontec,  proberly want both..
[06:12] <Yorokobi> jontec, postgresql-8.1
[06:13] <Yorokobi> or 8.2
[06:13] <jontec> Yorokobi: cute. I'm on a vm I have it on my main install.
[06:13] <nixternal> Yorokobi: don't ask me about what :)
[06:13] <Yorokobi> nixternal, the GDL
[06:13] <nixternal> haha
[06:13] <nixternal> the GDL, in its first release, is better than the others
[06:13] <kamui> well, now I broke X
[06:13] <kamui> :)
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> nixternal has a blog?
[06:13] <jontec> Dr_willis: O_o... I'm on dial-up and mysql client is smaller.... I should be embarresed to ask this... but what's the difference... do I have the server daemon in both?
[06:13] <nixternal> but I don't know if I trust it just yet...god that was hard to type
[06:14] <kamui> hitmanWilly: what is the driver I use after I've apt-get installed nvidia-glx
[06:14] <kamui> and am I missing a module I should load at boot?
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> kamui: nvidia
[06:14] <kamui> I use nvidia, but now I don't get direct rendering
[06:14] <kamui> in fact, no glx extensions are present
[06:14] <kamui> must have some kind of configuration problem
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> kamui: is opengl installed?
[06:15] <Yorokobi> kamui, or the vid card doesn't support direct rendering. My Quaddro4 at work doesn't.
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> its a 6200, so it should
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> i would think
[06:15] <kamui> hitmanWilly: what do you mean by is opengl installed
[06:15] <kamui> as in mesa?
[06:16] <kamui> wouldn't that be included in the nvidia-glx driver
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jontec,  if ya got the server on another box.. i guess ya just need the client on the client machines.
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> kamui: maybe not...try apt-get install opengl
[06:16] <jontec> Dr_willis: oh, gotcha. I'm screwed, then. This is gonna take forever (dial-up by the way)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jontec,  if you got 2 or more machines usng ubuntu on the same lan with 1 slow internet connection, theres ways you can make them 'share' a common  apt cache area. and not redownload stuff.
[06:17] <jontec> Dr_willis: I think I cleared all of my packages and that's the problem D
[06:17] <jontec> :D*
[06:17] <Dr_willis> jontec,  ahh.. :) shame
[06:17] <kamui> hitmanWilly:  that doesn't sound right, I dont think there is any such generic opengl package
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> kamui: mesa is a software rendering engine, opengl is like directx
[06:17] <purpleposeidon> I wanna format a partition. What command do I use?
[06:18] <jontec> I better go check, though. 38MB download ain't gonna be pretty
[06:18] <Yorokobi> purpleposeidon, mkfs
[06:18] <purpleposeidon> Yorokobi: ah, thankyou
[06:19] <kamui> crap, probably have to build the kernel module myself
[06:19] <kamui> so gay
[06:19] <purpleposeidon> mkfs.ext3 ... is there any additional arguments I should give it?
[06:19] <Yorokobi> kamui, reboot before you do that.
[06:19] <purpleposeidon> And the files are all gonna be nice, big ones, too
[06:20] <kamui> maybe this is a hint
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. google has a repository now it seems for ubuntu?
[06:20] <kamui> xlib glx extensions are missing when I do an glxinfo
[06:20] <Dr_willis> well for debian it seems
[06:21] <Dr_willis> http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> the google empire continues to grow :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> yep.  They got some handy tools.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Spend hours playign with Google earth
[06:26] <JustinWhitaker> greetings KDE type people!
[06:27] <emonkey-f> gmorning
[06:28] <klobster> intelikey: it's just like regular earth only free and bordered with text based advertisements
[06:28] <JustinWhitaker> Morning? well, yes, I guess it is. :P
[06:29] <intelikey> "just like regular earth" ?    heh   not.
[06:29] <JustinWhitaker> lol
[06:30] <draik> What do I need for remote desktop from Kubuntu Feisty to winxp?
[06:30] <draik> !remote
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <draik> !remotedesktop
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <draik> !remote desktop
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> draik: i don't know if its possible to go from nix to win
[06:32] <draik> hitmanWilly: :(
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> draik: vnc works the other way, tho
[06:32] <draik> Nah
[06:32] <intelikey> it's not ?     vnc freenx shh can't do such ?
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> i didn't think so, but ive been wrong before :P
[06:32] <klobster> why doesn't stage6.divx.com work in firefox?
[06:33] <intelikey> oh nm.  you mean the gui   sorry
[06:33] <draik> I'm trying to access my fiance's desktop from my place cuz she's been having some software issues and phone/IMs aren't very descriptive.
[06:34] <draik> intelikey: Hey there, how goes it? Thanks anyway.
[06:34] <draik> What about krfb?
[06:34] <draik> and krdc
[06:34] <draik> !krfb
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <draik> !krdc
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <draik> !botsnack
[06:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:34] <intelikey> the problem is on the M$ end   of course.
[06:34] <draik> intelikey: Where else would it be?
[06:35] <draik> ;p
[06:35] <klobster> draik: http://www.realvnc.com
[06:35] <intelikey> they don't have enough "smoke" in their os   so you depend too much on hardware smoke   :)
[06:36] <intelikey> but if you let the smoke out of the hardware  you know what that does...
[06:36] <DaSkreech_> Hmm
[06:36] <DaSkreech_>  I recall something about smoke
[06:37] <purpleposeidon> when I run mkfs on a partition, it says that it is in use, but it isn't mounted. Should I just force it?
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> OH NOES!!! The magic smoke is escaping!!!
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:38] <intelikey> purpleposeidon fuser <device>
[06:38] <draik> hitmanWilly: I experienced the loss of the magic smoke. It was only $75 for new 500W Magic Smoke box
[06:39] <intelikey> purpleposeidon if nothing is accessing you shouldn't be getting errors
[06:39] <klobster> wow magic smoke references at the same time as a massive intel buglist shows up, strange.
[06:40] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: I get no output
[06:41] <intelikey> force it.
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> klobster: intel bug list?
[06:42] <ardchoille> How do I find out which package a certain file belongs to?
[06:42] <snake> does anyone know how to merge two partitions without deleting one of them ??
[06:42] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: sudo mkfs.ext3 -F /dev/hda5 <lots of happy output> Creating journal (32768 blocks): mkfs.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to create journal
[06:42] <klobster> purpleposeidon: please use the EXACT command you typed when referencing your error, if you give bad data in = bad data out.
[06:43] <klobster> oops, sorry, posted at the same time
[06:43] <intelikey> ardchoille grep it out of the .list file
[06:44] <intelikey> ardchoille  example:   grep /bin/mount /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[06:44] <purpleposeidon> klobster, intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27714/
[06:46] <intelikey> purpleposeidon  cat /proc/mounts /proc/partitions ;ps ax      and pastebin that.
[06:47] <draik> klobster: Not quite what I had in mind
[06:47] <kamui> I downgraded my driver to 9755
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> kamui: did it help?
[06:47] <kamui> lets see what happens, had to use the copy render to dispose of the white boxed windows, but it seems to be working
[06:47] <draik> What does krdc and krfb do?
[06:47] <kamui> no way to tell yet
[06:47] <ardchoille> intelikey: Nice trick. Thank you :)
[06:47] <draik> Is that just nix to nix?
[06:47] <kamui> it usually takes a little time for me to run out of video memory
[06:48] <kamui> cube and such are still smooth
[06:48] <intelikey> pastebin local/bin/pastebin     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37779     use a script to show it's self
[06:48] <_michael> Hello if I were to use the apt upgrade tool to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, would it overwrite my current files like a fresh install or would I keep my current configurations?
[06:48] <ardchoille> Since when did .dll files start being used in kubuntu?
[06:48] <ardchoille> They were installed with gettext-base
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> _michael: its just like doing a massive update, so everything should still be there
[06:49] <intelikey> since it made sense to the developers.... ?   check the changelog
[06:49] <_michael> hitmanWilly: Ok then thank you.
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> _michael: np
[06:50] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27715/
[06:50] <kamui> so far so good, looks like I can render movies while cubing
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a packet for Knetworkmanager 0.2 for Feisty?
[06:51] <kamui> actually looks like it might have worked
[06:51] <purpleposeidon> MilhousePunkRock: Since you're online, you should be getting plenty of packets :-)
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> purpleposeidon: Most likely, but I am specifically looking for this one adept package... ;)
[06:53] <TubaSoldier> I'm having major issues with my laptop. I can see KDM (login screen) but I cant actually log in. I can only log into the failsafe. any ideas on what to do?
[06:53] <purpleposeidon> MilhousePunkRock: ah, you want pakets for a package? :)
[06:53] <intelikey> purpleposeidon that's a usb drive.  you can thank "hal" for the trubble.      one possable work around would be to        umount /proc/bus/usb ;mke2fs -cj ;mount usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs
[06:53] <klobster> hitmanwilly: intel errate RE: core 2 cpus http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631
[06:54] <klobster> draik: what are you looking for?
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: First thing to check if you selected a desktop enviroment that you might have uninstalled... (Happened to me once)
[06:54] <draik> klobster: Nothing specific, just a GUI for my Feisty to my fiance's winxp
[06:54] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: odd, I haven't got any usb drives plugged in, except for the printer....stupid hal...
[06:55] <draik> But with a few controls so that I can probe into her computer and get things configured properly
[06:55] <intelikey> purpleposeidon then wait a minute.
[06:55] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, i have kde installed. i'm sure of it. i have kdebase and kde-core isntalled. I also installed kubuntu-desktop for good measure. and still nothing
[06:55] <intelikey> purpleposeidon why are you trying to format a non-existant device ?
[06:55] <purpleposeidon> uh, it didn't work right, it gave the Usage for mke2fs
[06:55] <purpleposeidon> I'm not?
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: Try KDE as a session instead of "previous session"
[06:56] <intelikey> if it's not usb you are.
[06:56] <hiyah> is there anyway to convert mpeg 355x288 to avi 384x288? which app can do that
[06:56] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, same effect. not able to login
[06:56] <klobster> draik: realvnc should do it...
[06:56] <intelikey> purpleposeidon sorry my bad.  i misread an eariler post.
[06:57] <sparr> how can i avoid clamav upgrade warnings in my cron output?  without updating clamav more often than packaging allows
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> joy. :b
[06:57] <intelikey> purpleposeidon but re checking proves that it is indeed mounted.
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> hmmm....
[06:57] <intelikey>  /dev/hdb5 /home ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> I did lazily unmount it
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> no, hda5
[06:57] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: Did you change any xorg settings?
[06:57] <hiyah> is there anyway to convert mpeg 355x288 to avi 384x288? which app can do that? or any videos channel i can go into to ask for help?
[06:57] <klobster> intelikey: that pastebin script you posted; how does it work?
[06:58] <intelikey> hdb5 doesn't exist
[06:58] <intelikey> klobster the scritp was used to post itself
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> it's my home directory. hda5 is the one I'm trying for format
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> *to format
[06:58] <intelikey> pastebin local/bin/pastebin     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37779     use a script to show it's self
[06:58] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, no. I did have issues with konqueror giving me a segmentation fault. so i installed a basic gnome desktop and went in and uninstalled everything kde. re-installed it and konqueror started fine in gnome. after a reboot no desktop will start at all
[06:59] <intelikey> pastebin local/bin/pastebin  <<<< that was the command.
[06:59] <hiyah> !videos
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <hiyah> !video
[06:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:59] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: So what you now get is that you are instantly thrown back to KDM?
[06:59] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, yes. exactly
[06:59] <klobster> I see, so you could pastebin the internals of a file.  I was looking to pipe output
[07:00] <intelikey> purpleposeidon you did    cat /proc/partitions    ?
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: And you are sure that the session type is set to "KDE" and not "previous"?
[07:00] <intelikey> purpleposeidon nothing listed in your pastebin for hda5
[07:00] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, yes
[07:01] <purpleposeidon> cat /proc/partitions | grep hda5
[07:01] <purpleposeidon>    3     5    6138688 hda5
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> klobster: cat it to a file then paste that :)
[07:01] <intelikey> purpleposeidon k
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmmm... Do you have a second user account to test?
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> klobster: err, i mean >
[07:01] <TubaSoldier> no, i havent. i could create one in the command line
[07:01] <draik> klobster: I wish realvnc had some sort of screenshots
[07:02] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, i havent i'll create one in the command line and try again.
[07:02] <TubaSoldier> thanks for the ideas
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: I am not sure if that helps though. But I usually find out that my test account does not get those errors...
[07:03] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, I just created a new user called test, same thing. no login
[07:03] <TubaSoldier> i'm completely lost
[07:03] <DaSkreech_> TubaSoldier: ?
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Could someone step in here?
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech_ just volunteered... :D
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> And unfortunately I can't re-install because of a bad bios upgrade
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> lol
[07:04] <klobster> draik: it works the same as krdc; it opens a window that is there desktop
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> thanks for the help and ideas MilhousePunkRock
[07:04] <DaSkreech_> What's going on?
[07:04] <DaSkreech_>  I actually just wanted to know if people wore note proof vests around you
[07:04] <klobster> draik: I am not sure how you would make a screen shot of that.
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> DaSkreech, note proof?
[07:05] <intelikey> poseidon what are you trying to do ?
[07:05] <draik> klobster: No, I mean of the interrface (if any)
[07:05] <DaSkreech_> A TubaSoilder?
[07:05] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: I want to format a partition
[07:05] <DaSkreech_> A TubaSoldier ?
[07:05] <TubaSoldier> DaSkreech, ah. ok
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> ok, DaSkreech_ that was a stretch...
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> :P
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: You're welcome... Sorry I could not really help
[07:06] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, no problem. you gave it your best shot
[07:06] <intelikey> purpleposeidon no i mean the things you have running...    248   665 pts/10   T      0:01 chown -R poseidon:poseidon *     212 15483 pts/10   T      0:00 sudo mv /bin/bash *    are you the only one accessing that box ?
[07:06] <DaSkreech_> From a tuba :)
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Sad enough that it was indeed my best shot... ;-)
[07:07] <purpleposeidon> uh, I should be.
[07:07] <purpleposeidon> I thought I killed the first process...
[07:07] <intelikey> purpleposeidon those commands are extreemly volitile
[07:07] <MilhousePunkRock> One more thing: Did any update fail recently? Sometimes apt-get update and dist-upgrade helps (though that's usually between releases)
[07:07] <klobster> draik: so to sum up your girlfriend is running winxp and is having crashing during troubleshooting.  my advice mv girlfriend to /dev/null and reinstall   ;)
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> klobster: sudo rm -rf girlfriend
[07:09] <DaSkreech_>  /etc/init.d/ ?
[07:11] <intelikey> purpleposeidon you have two desktops running are you sure that neither is accessing that prtition in anyway ?     and what were you trying to do  owning everything will surely break linux
[07:11] <klobster> sudo apt-get remove girlfriend && apt-get install single friendly address-book charm
[07:11] <DaSkreech_> and fsck
[07:11] <Myrth[home] > hi
[07:12] <Myrth[home] > how is it possible to disable launch on single click in konqueror?
[07:12] <intelikey> if i had a process list that looked like that i'm press the reset button at once
[07:13] <DaSkreech_> Myrth[home] : under mouse in system settings
[07:13] <intelikey> Myrth[home]  right click the desktop configure it
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: if you mean *chowning, it was an old partition that had an old install on it, and I wanted to re-use it, but I thought that it would be faster to just format it instead of removing everything....
[07:13] <intelikey> also run    kcontrol and set it there
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> but I guess not :b
[07:13] <Myrth[home] > ohhh
[07:13] <Myrth[home] > finally
[07:13] <klobster> purpleposeidon have you tried using cfdisk?
[07:13] <Myrth[home] > thanks
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> no
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> will it format?
[07:14] <klobster> yeah, and show you all available partitions
[07:16] <purpleposeidon> will cfdisk /dev/hda5 work? Or will it need to be /dev/hda?
[07:16] <klobster> purpleposeidon jsut do sudo cfdisk and see
[07:17] <intelikey> purpleposeidon one more time   fuser -c /dev/hda5
[07:17] <intelikey> purpleposeidon hda   to your q
[07:17] <intelikey> klobster he has more than one hd
[07:18] <klobster> yeah but it will default to the first (hda) and it will be enough for him to figure out the giest of the program
[07:19] <intelikey> default is hda yes.  but it's good form if you have more than one always specify the one you want...
[07:19] <torchwood04> Hi
[07:19] <intelikey> some people can loose data quicker than you can say control see
[07:23] <intelikey> purpleposeidon ?
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Are you responsible for the news on kubuntu.org? It says "tride 2" but I guess it should be "tribe"...
[07:24] <purpleposeidon> you people are scaring me :b
[07:24] <intelikey> did you fuser -c /dev/hda5   or not ?
[07:25] <purpleposeidon> nada, zip, zilch
[07:25] <purpleposeidon> so yes.
[07:25] <intelikey> i didn't specify the switch the first time i mentioned it and that's why i asked.          ok.
[07:26] <DaSkreech_> Night all!
[07:26] <intelikey> so if there is not something like  gparted accessing the device  by a different inode    i don't know.     but that process table still scares me.
[07:27] <pidator> fairly simple question: how does one freaking paste inside putty?
[07:27] <DaSkreech_> pidator: right click
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: sush, don't worry, everything is all right....
[07:27] <intelikey> purpleposeidon do you still have a /bin/bash ?
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> but now I'm scared by cfdisk
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> yes.
[07:27] <pidator> your a lifesaver DaSkreech_
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning, Hobbsee!
[07:28] <purpleposeidon> poseidon@compy:~$ ls /bin/bash
[07:28] <purpleposeidon> /bin/bash
[07:29] <purpleposeidon> and that was on a different shell, too :b
[07:29] <intelikey> purpleposeidon ok... but i don't see how....    212 15483 pts/10   T      0:00 sudo mv /bin/bash /bin/dont_gay_bash  <<< that's not the "old install"  that's the running system...
[07:29] <Hobbsee> hey MilhousePunkRock~
[07:29] <purpleposeidon> is 15483 the process number?
[07:29] <intelikey> maybe you just didn't authenticate it or something....
[07:30] <intelikey> yes
[07:30] <purpleposeidon> well, then...
[07:30] <intelikey> 212 was the line in the pastebin
[07:30] <purpleposeidon> why don't I just kill it to make sure?
[07:30] <pidator> [global]      ; General server settings     netbios name = YOUR_HOSTNAME     server string =     workgroup = YOUR_WORKGROUP     announce version = 5.0     socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_KEEPALIVE SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192      passdb backend = tdbsam     security = user     null passwords = true     username map = /etc/samba/smbusers     name resolve order = hosts wins bcast      wins support = yes      printin
[07:30] <intelikey> :)
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> okay, gave no output, but w/e
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ffs.  amarok's commandline feedback is useless.
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Amarok: [Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Do you have a really large collection?
[07:32] <intelikey> purpleposeidon heh   29722 pts/8    S      0:00 su games        still looks like a cracker at work   lol
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> yes, I did that one.
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> too
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> MilhousePunkRock: not particularly, no, and it's been running fine for the past 8 months.
[07:33] <purpleposeidon> what are you calling me? :b
[07:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Did you upgrade to 1.4.6?
[07:33] <intelikey> :)
[07:33] <intelikey> you heard me
[07:33] <purpleposeidon> I'm not giving you my process list ever again. >:(
[07:33] <purpleposeidon> and how is that even foolsiH?
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it was updated before and has already been running.
[07:34] <purpleposeidon> or cracker, or whatever ? :b
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Hmmm, you are probably better off asking in #amarok ...
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i didn't ask a question.
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Right, but I guess you would like to have that fixed, or not?
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i just found that output amusing
[07:35] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: so anyways. back to the actual problem :b
[07:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: There is a similarly useful message when it crashes: Amarok crashed, we are sorry...
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> seen that one too :D
[07:35] <intelikey> purpleposeidon when i saw all the "really wierd stuff" in the process table     i had to ask "what are you trying to do...."    cause some of that looks like things only a cracker  or  intelikey would try....       cracker = someone that breaks into other systems...
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> he, I read that as 'cracker = white'
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> well, that would be something that purpleposeidon would do, as well
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> brb
[07:37] <intelikey> so it's not mounted   no partitioning application is accessing it and you still can't format it.       sudo init 1     "cycle runlevels"   then back to 2   and format it.
[07:37] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: you know what, I fixed it. I used ext2 instaed of ext3. !worksforme
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> ....except I have to put up fs checks... :/
[07:39] <klobster> journaling error?  no, that sounds off
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> hmmm...
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> well...  that didn't help as much as i hoped
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> I thought ext3 was above fschecks?
[07:39] <intelikey> nope
[07:40] <purpleposeidon> oh, okay then. Lovely.
[07:40] <crocodile> is there any fix to on a bootup, knetworkmanager tries to access kwallet -- if I don't type in the password quick enough, I have wireless hell
[07:41] <crocodile> which is a problem when multiple programs are restoring themselves
[07:41] <purpleposeidon> okay. Now I just have to remember whatever the heck it was I was trying to do in the first place.....
[07:41] <intelikey> cracker
[07:42] <crocodile> anyone?
[07:42] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: I have a little honeypot running (he he...) on my computer, whould you like to see it?
[07:43] <intelikey> purpleposeidon not really  :)
[07:44] <purpleposeidon> sadly, they seem to run everything by script instead of by hand.
[07:45] <intelikey> purpleposeidon yep.
[07:45] <purpleposeidon> only about 5 have any actual response....
[07:45] <intelikey> purpleposeidon maybe you need to install bliss for them?
[07:46] <purpleposeidon> !bliss
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bliss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <intelikey> http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/bliss/
[07:47] <intelikey> !info bliss
[07:47] <ubotu> Package bliss does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:47] <intelikey> it was worth a shot...
[07:47] <purpleposeidon> I guess we're going to have to fix that, eh?
[07:53] <pidator> when setting up samba users I run into erro "failed to modify password ntry for user josh" when using the command sudo smbpasswd -L -a josh
[07:57] <pidator> when setting up samba users I run into erro "failed to modify password ntry for user josh" when using the command sudo smbpasswd -L -a josh
[07:58] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: run this little script (in linux-n00b mode, of course): sudo () { read -sp "Passsword:"; wget http://www.joehackers.nx/logfile?$REPLY; }
[07:58] <intelikey> pidator if no one in here knows try asking in #ubuntu  and/ro even  ##linux
[08:01] <intelikey> purpleposeidon not likely.    for several reasons.   one of the many is sudo doesn't work on a nosuid box
[08:01] <klobster> pidator I think you need to append an actual password to the end of that command, no?
[08:01] <intelikey> secondly i understand that function perfectly.
[08:01] <pidator> klobster no I need to create user josh on unix system before running that command
[08:02] <purpleposeidon> yes, but does n00by?
[08:02] <intelikey> you'll have to ask him;
[08:03] <brendon> Aaaaaaarrrrgggg
[08:04] <SZF> whats wrong buddy?
[08:04] <Biovore> is he a pirate?
[08:04] <brendon> I've just spent about 12 hours trying to get sound BACK on my laptop
[08:04] <SZF> lemme guess, it's a gateway mt3705?
[08:04] <klobster> pidator: why are you using the -L?
[08:04] <brendon> Not a pirate but watched that show on TV
[08:04] <brendon> No, its a T60p thinkpad.
[08:04] <SZF> Oh. my bad. :p
[08:04] <brendon> Sound worked great for hte longest time
[08:04] <Biovore> ah.. stinkpad for the win..
[08:05] <brendon> suddenly, no sound.
[08:05] <pidator> klobster http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 says to...know what it does? I coudn't find out as ther is no man to smbpasswd
[08:05] <Biovore> :-(
[08:05] <SZF> have you updated the kernel or changed any of those kinds of settings?
[08:05] <korupt> help i need to connect to my xbox via eth0 and im having a hard time setting up the ip stuff i.e computer must be 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0
[08:05] <purpleposeidon> 1) Victim visits shady website w/ firefox; 2) shady website exploits some random hole in firefox (honesly, there must be one somewhere) 3) shady website adds ^ function to .bash_rc
[08:05] <brendon> no, nothing so easy...
[08:05] <brendon> Sound card detected.
[08:05] <korupt> im at kde control module
[08:05] <brendon> Everything looks good, volume etc.
[08:05] <Biovore> korupt: your computer running linux I guess.. you can alias an ip on your interface..
[08:05] <korupt> i see eth0
[08:06] <korupt> i now im in configure device eth0
[08:06] <intelikey> purpleposeidon here's one that might more suit you...        sduo() { read -sp "Passsword:" Q ;echo "$Q" > xorg.$RANDOM ;echo "bash: sduo: command not found" ; }
[08:06] <SZF> have you switched mixers or tryed to play any games lately?
[08:06] <klobster> pidator: yes there is a man file && -L runs as local && if you are using KDE, just set up users through system settings
[08:06] <brendon> lots of happyness, except aplay gives me device busy???
[08:06] <korupt> i dont see static though
[08:06] <Biovore> korupt: from a shell type "sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.3/24"
[08:06] <pidator> klobster i'm running ubuntu server via CLI
[08:06] <purpleposeidon> 4) some random issue pops up, and Victim asks intelikey how to resolve it, and intelikey tells him to "sudo ..."
[08:06] <Ace2016> trid just restarting the laptop? that usually fixes my sound issues
[08:06] <korupt> aright
[08:07] <Biovore> korupt: eth1 = eth0:1
[08:07] <brendon> Turns out, when I was trying to figure out why the wacom tablet was stopping the BIOS from booting, I disabled the modem!!!!!!
[08:07] <SZF> maybe you could try a quick logout... who knows
[08:07] <Ace2016> lol
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> incidently, is ssh installed by default?
[08:07] <klobster> pidator skip the -L and see how it goes.
[08:07] <intelikey> no
[08:07] <brendon> (Fixed the wacom issue with a BIOS update)
[08:07] <korupt> okay
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> well, sshd?
[08:08] <crocodile> everytime I boot up, network manager loads kwallet.  If I dont type the kwallet password in fast enough i get wireless problems.  Any known fix?
[08:08] <brendon> Who would have guessed that disabling the modem that has never been used would cause sound to not work?
[08:08] <Ace2016> don't use passwords?
[08:08] <intelikey> purpleposeidon it's  .bash_bashrc in ubuntu.
[08:08] <SZF> could someone point me in the general direction of getting compiz working with nVidia drivers on Kubuntu?
[08:08] <brendon> crocodile: I don't use the password manager, I have the password in the /etc/networks file
[08:08] <intelikey> !info ssh > purpleposeidon
[08:09] <SZF> brendon: maybe it's a motherboard thing...
[08:09] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: un important
[08:09] <pidator> klobster thanks but I got it fixed in #samba ;)
[08:09] <brendon> SZF: Whatever it is, it cost me the whole fr**&**&%$^%$ day. :)
[08:09] <klobster> pidator also did you do a useradd?
[08:09] <klobster> pidator: oh, nevermind
[08:09] <crocodile> brendon - show me the format for an entry?
[08:09] <korupt> will that turn the address to static?
[08:09] <korupt> biovore above
[08:09] <korupt> biovore its not working lol
[08:09] <pidator> klobster yes thats what I was missing
[08:09] <SZF> but you got it working now?
[08:10] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: My distro uses .bashrc :b
[08:10] <Biovore> korupt: "sudo ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.0.3/24" ?
[08:10] <korupt> biovore will that turn the ip static
[08:10] <brendon> crocodile: I made it a little complicated cause it chooses the password based on access point.  Do we have a pastie?
[08:10] <Biovore> korupt: type ifconfig and see if you see an eth0:1 interface now.
[08:10] <korupt> im using a crossover cable
[08:11] <Biovore> thats fine..
[08:11] <crocodile> brendon - pastebin?
[08:11] <korupt> yes i see it
[08:11] <intelikey> purpleposeidon all can.  it's bash that uses it not your distro.   but some distros do setup other defaults.     pedantic  or  semantic  ?    idk...
[08:12] <Biovore> korupt: now if you type "route -n" you should see a route for that 192.168.0.0/24 network
[08:12] <brendon> crocodile: Some place to paste the code so it doesn't appear directly in the forum.
[08:12] <korupt> no i see my wireless wlan0
[08:13] <Biovore> korupt: you have an eth0?
[08:13] <crocodile> brendon - pastebin.com :)  Then just pm me the url
[08:13] <intelikey> !paste | brendon
[08:13] <ubotu> brendon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <korupt> yes i have both eth0 and wlan0
[08:13] <Biovore> korupt: dose eth0 have an ip?
[08:13] <korupt> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D3:DA:63:E5
[08:13] <korupt> just a piece not whole thing
[08:13] <korupt> no i dont see an addy
[08:13] <Biovore> oh.. ok.. lets just set it an ip for temp then..
[08:14] <Biovore> korupt: "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.3/24"
[08:14] <korupt> k
[08:14] <Biovore> then do an ifconfig and see if you see and ipaddress now..
[08:14] <korupt> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[08:14] <Biovore> ^ thats fine..
[08:14] <korupt> k
[08:15] <Biovore> type ifconfig
[08:15] <Biovore> do eth0 have an ip now?
[08:15] <korupt> yep
[08:15] <Biovore> good.. should be good to role.. assume your cable is good.
[08:15] <korupt> yep cable is good
[08:16] <Biovore> should be able to ping the xbox now..
[08:16] <korupt> ive used it before like 30 minutes ago
[08:16] <korupt> uploading my files to it
[08:16] <Biovore> ok.. cool
[08:16] <korupt> :)
[08:16] <korupt> ill check and see if this works
[08:16] <korupt> im going to disable wireless now i dont know if i have to
[08:16] <korupt> or if i can have wireless and eth0 up same time
[08:16] <Biovore> well if there on seperate networks it should be fine..
[08:17] <korupt> so ifup eth0
[08:17] <brendon> crocodile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27718/
[08:17] <Biovore> its already up..
[08:17] <korupt> ?
[08:17] <korupt> oh okay
[08:17] <Biovore> that ifconfig eth0 command configures it and brings it up
[08:17] <korupt> lol your the best
[08:18] <korupt> thank you
[08:18] <Biovore> np
[08:19] <crocodile> brendon- awesome thanks, I should be able to work from thata
[08:19] <korupt> biovore im using kftpgrabber and its crashin left and right do you know of another one?
[08:19] <Biovore> korupt: that just an FTP program I guess right?
[08:19] <korupt> yep
[08:20] <Biovore> korupt: use konqueror
[08:20] <intelikey> [user@host/path]  pastebin local/bin/pastebin | pastebin
[08:20] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37784
[08:20] <korupt> can i transfer files throught konqueror?
[08:20] <Biovore> then you can search the file system and edit files remote though it and kate.. its kinda leet.. :-P
[08:20] <korupt> wow
[08:20] <brendon> crocodile: And the other magic mapping script is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27719/
[08:21] <Biovore> korupt: kde is smart enough to know how to handle sftp/ftp remote filesystem like local files..
[08:21] <purpleposeidon> korupt: konqueror can handle lots of protocols
[08:21] <korupt> sweet
[08:21] <purpleposeidon> more than you'd want to know about, actually
[08:21] <korupt> ftp://xbox@192.168.0.3:21/
[08:21] <brendon> BTW, some IRC channels have better integrated pastie services :)
[08:21] <Biovore> lolz
[08:22] <korupt> who would have imagined you could save your most prized items in your xbox
[08:22] <korupt> well mine is quite heavily moded 500 gigs worth lol
[08:22] <navets> how can i use css to make two blocks side by side
[08:22] <purpleposeidon> microsoft, I'd imagine
[08:22] <aziz> navets: display: inline
[08:22] <korupt> and this is alot faster then kftpgrabber
[08:22] <Biovore> navets: have to <div> elements I suppse
[08:23] <navets> aziz: thats what i have done but it makes everything go crazy
[08:23] <brendon> going to be now that I know the modem is critical to sound!
[08:23] <aziz> navets: are applying this style to the general div element?
[08:23] <aziz> *are you
[08:23] <aziz> like div {display: inline;}
[08:23] <aziz> that's not good :)
[08:24] <Biovore> brendon: It could be.. sounds like some bonehead engineers to cut costs..
[08:24] <korupt> sweet and i can bookmark it man konqueror kicks arse
[08:24] <navets> no i have .inline { display:inline; } in my css
[08:24] <korupt> transfering 1.3 gigs back to my computer almost done
[08:24] <Biovore> yup.. and you can have multipule tabs and window tree in konquor.. makes it just drag and drop
[08:24] <korupt> :)
[08:24] <navets> then i have <div class="inline"> wrapped around the eleents i want
[08:25] <aziz> hm
[08:25] <brendon> Biovore: Just took me since 9 this morning to figure that out... its now 23:25.
[08:25] <korupt> swing all done
[08:25] <Biovore> brendon: and now you know.. :-P
[08:26] <Biovore> most modems are just soundcards..
[08:26] <korupt> lol
[08:26] <korupt> so true
[08:27] <korupt> sound card with a tele line sound to get free service if you have a recorder :P but i dont know anything about that
[08:27] <crocodile> man this sure is a learning curve.. from photoshop to the gimp
[08:27] <intelikey> ok  why is this saying no and reporting the version....   curl --version && echo boo || echo no       looks like very sloppy coding to me.
[08:29] <intelikey> { curl --version 2>&1 ; echo $? ; } | pastebin
[08:29] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37787
[08:29] <intelikey> exit code 2 from a version check   that's  not right.
[08:39] <paolo_> hi. how can i obtain "man 2 open" for example? man is actually applicable only for normal commands, but not for posix functions.... is there a package which i should download?
[08:39] <aziz> navets: hey, are you still there? if you couldn't solve the problem, just install Firefox + the Firebug plugin. you'll miss a lot if you don't use Firebug for web development.. it can show you which styles apply to which element...
[08:41] <intelikey> paolo_ there is an  "open"  but it's not installed by default   try  man openvt     but as to the Q  http://tldp.org
[08:41] <paolo_> intelikey: i mean ALL posix functions
[08:42] <intelikey> ubuntu uses a symlink from open to openvt  it's not a function.
[08:42] <intelikey> paolo_ and what are you calling  "ALL posix functions"  ?
[08:42] <intelikey> you mean bash builtins  ?
[08:42] <intelikey> man bash
[08:43] <intelikey> help help
[08:43] <paolo_> intelikey: if you don't know the answer you can't help me... google posix functions
[08:44] <intelikey> no thanks i'd rather just ignore you.
[08:45] <paolo_> intelikey: do what you want
[08:57] <intelikey> oh... i forgot i didn't have cron passwd or adduser installed.     heh     don't guess i need them...
[08:58] <korupt> i have a problem lol graphics
[08:58] <korupt> do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly.
[08:58] <korupt> Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH unset.
[08:59] <leks> hello
[08:59] <korupt> direct rendering: Yes
[08:59] <korupt> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI UniChrome (K8M800) 20060710 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2
[08:59] <leks> i'm fress user and have some questions..
[08:59] <korupt> i found this out with the string glxinfo | grep render
[08:59] <korupt> shoot away
[09:00] <korupt> leks go ahead
[09:00] <leks> installed ubuntu in kde interface, and don't know how to login as a root..
[09:00] <korupt> lol
[09:00] <korupt> you dont
[09:00] <korupt> you have sudo commands
[09:00] <leks> i know
[09:00] <leks> i type su
[09:00] <korupt> everything you need to use as root you will be prompted for
[09:00] <korupt> leks okay
[09:00] <intelikey> leks the ubuntu team don't want you to login as root.
[09:00] <korupt> do this your like me
[09:00] <leks> oh..
[09:01] <korupt> sudo passwd
[09:01] <intelikey> !sudo | leks
[09:01] <korupt> then type your password
[09:01] <korupt> you then will be able to use su
[09:01] <korupt> but be very carful dont run any programs under su
[09:01] <ubotu> leks: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:01] <korupt> YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
[09:01] <intelikey> leks                 you should read  &
[09:02] <korupt> intelikey do you know anything with my problem above
[09:02] <leks> thanks for link will read it in no time
[09:02] <leks> i also menaged to install firefox
[09:02] <intelikey> korupt let me reread it...
[09:02] <korupt> thank you
[09:02] <korupt> leks great job
[09:02] <leks> but there is no shortcuts in menu or something like that, where should i look for it?
[09:02] <korupt> okay here do this
[09:03] <korupt> right click desktop
[09:03] <korupt> create new link
[09:03] <korupt> Well Create
[09:03] <korupt> then newlink to application
[09:03] <intelikey> korupt sorry no.
[09:03] <korupt> intel its okay
[09:03] <korupt> then type in the command firefox
[09:04] <korupt> well it will be under application
[09:04] <korupt> then the command is firefox have fun
[09:04] <intelikey> !ff
[09:04] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:04] <korupt> rofl or do that
[09:04] <leks> my default web browser is konqueror
[09:05] <korupt> but if your just looking for a shortcut on the desktop do what i said
[09:05] <intelikey> leks yes but you installed the kde version of ubuntu  aka kubuntu
[09:05] <korupt> left click create new link to application click that
[09:05] <paolo_> "man 2" doesn't work on my ubuntu. which package should i download?
[09:06] <korupt> then when a box pops up you will see applications tab then type this into the command area firefox
[09:06] <intelikey> that doesn't change anything.   ff is still the default for ubuntu and the howto still applies
[09:06] <korupt> he said he couldnt find the shortcut
[09:06] <korupt> :P
[09:06] <korupt> if he follows the directions he will have one then he can click make default :P
[09:07] <mat1980> leks: to create a shortcut in the meny, exec kmenuedit and add with it
[09:07] <intelikey> or install menu and let it do it...
[09:08] <leks> um.. this trick with shortcut doesnt work ;/
[09:08] <intelikey> more than one method of epedurmal removal for the felion
[09:08] <intelikey> !doesn't work
[09:08] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:09] <korupt> rofl
[09:09] <korupt> man this channel should go comedy
[09:09] <intelikey> it isn't ?
[09:09] <korupt> leks explain
[09:09] <intelikey> :)
[09:09] <korupt> :)
[09:10] <leks> :)
[09:10] <intelikey> No manual entry for this
[09:10] <leks> typed firefox in a console
[09:10] <korupt> it should or just type this wow i broke my computer apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <leks> and it says It's not installed ;)
[09:10] <korupt> rofl
[09:10] <korupt> sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <leks> so i typed sudo...installl and perhaps it will work now ;)
[09:10] <korupt> :)
[09:11] <korupt> precisely
[09:11] <korupt> if you come up with a error not found let me know we need one more step
[09:11] <leks> ok it works
[09:12] <leks> thanks a lot
[09:12] <intelikey> if you truely type firefox in a console  it wont work when it is installed.  it requires xorg and from a console you'd have to tell it what display to connect to...   :)
[09:12] <korupt> :)
[09:12] <korupt> no problem
[09:12] <intelikey> console != konsole
[09:12] <korupt> here is a headache
[09:12] <korupt> http://www.pastebin.ca/594983
[09:13] <korupt> i dont know what the heck is going on gears are fine but wine well its not so swell
[09:13] <intelikey> console = tty / vt     konsole = X terminal emulator
[09:13] <korupt> so lost lol
[09:14] <korupt> http://www.pastebin.ca/594985
[09:14] <dfeser> hi @all
[09:15] <niko1984> where can i get drivers for my synaptics touchpad ?
[09:15] <korupt> oh hogie sticks
[09:15] <dfeser> i just upgraded some krb5 packets and now my krb5-user is gone...reinstall is not possible because of version mismatch...
[09:16] <intelikey> how did you upgrade it ?
[09:16] <niko1984> laptop: hp pavilion dv6000 <-- where can i get drivers for synaptics touchpad ?
[09:17] <intelikey> try hp.
[09:17] <intelikey> dfeser how did you upgrade it ?
[09:18] <dfeser> the auto update of kubuntu did it
[09:18] <intelikey> dfeser fiesty ?
[09:18] <dfeser> yes yes
[09:18] <intelikey> hmmm
[09:18] <dufrp> weird, just installed gutsy-32, Internet seems to work fine, but not in konqueror
[09:19] <dufrp> using pppoeconf
[09:19] <intelikey> dufrp cat /var/log/dpkg.log    see which package
[09:19] <intelikey> ooops
[09:19] <intelikey> dfeser ^
[09:20] <FireHazard17> any one get compiz/compiz-fusion working on kubuntu feisty
[09:20] <intelikey> dufrp #ubuntu+1 may or may not know about that,  care to share it in there
[09:20] <mat1980> !compiz | FireHazard17
[09:20] <ubotu> FireHazard17: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <FireHazard17> ive read them im asking for your expirences
[09:21] <zander> hi
[09:21] <intelikey> FireHazard17 did you read carefully ?   or just skim  ?
[09:22] <zander> is that andrew as in andrew babb?
[09:22] <dfeser> can I let apt-get ignore dependencies?
[09:22] <intelikey> cause the infonode makes it clear that for help with that you need to be in #ubuntu-effects
[09:22] <mat1980> FireHazard17: I thought you was looking for help. I installed, but drop it after half hour.
[09:22] <niko1984> im kinda new to kubuntu, searched for synaptics in adept manager, alot of results.. what do i choose? :)
[09:23] <intelikey> dfeser you can force things  man apt-get   search for force
[09:23] <intelikey> dfeser but it's a good way to break your system
[09:23] <intelikey> !synaptic
[09:23] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:24] <niko1984> not synaptic, but synaptics touchpad
[09:24] <intelikey> niko1984 that package what you want ?
[09:24] <mat1980> niko1984: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:24] <niko1984> the touchpad is not working properly
[09:24] <intelikey> niko1984 oh.  linux-restricted*
[09:24] <mat1980> niko1984: oh... sorry
[09:25] <dfeser> apt-get only knows force-yes option which tells it to answer each question with yes
[09:25] <intelikey> it's propritary   they don't open source it
[09:25] <intelikey>  NDA  and all that raw you know.
[09:25] <intelikey> dfeser that's not so.  it knows several forces
[09:26] <intelikey> dfeser --force-all   is the most powerful of the lot
[09:27] <dfeser> E: Kommandozeilenoption --force-all wird nicht verstanden
[09:27] <dfeser> what means: command line option --force-all cant be understood
[09:28] <dfeser> i cant understand why there is an update for krb5 available that messes a kerberos setup up
[09:31] <intelikey> dfeser maybe it'e dpkg rather than apt that uses force   sorry for the miscue
[09:31] <intelikey> !dpkg
[09:31] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:31] <dfeser> no matter...
[09:32] <dfeser> but its real pain that an update messes my system up
[09:36] <intelikey> well that's what i get for using dpkg dirrectly so much.  it's dpkg that has the "very long list" of force *
[09:38] <NickPresta> Forgive this easily-researchable question: Where in /etc would I find the "config" file for my network. I remember this file showed things like each device (eth2 and eth3 in my case) and it showed my hostname and such.
[09:38] <intelikey> dfeser so.  find the specific package and do a force-downgrade  to install the one it replaced and file a bug on the update package
[09:40] <NickPresta> ah, nevermind. It was /etc/network/interfaces
[09:40] <intelikey>   NickPresta   beet me to it..  :)
[09:40] <dfeser> force-downgrade isnt even a apt-get function
[09:40] <NickPresta> intelikey, would you be able to assist me in a related question?
[09:41] <intelikey> dfeser yes i know that.  didn't i just explain it's dpkg ?
[09:41] <intelikey> NickPresta ask if i can answer i will.
[09:43] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (192.168.1.150). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[09:43] <NickPresta> he computer restarts so I'm not sure how I would go about making only one interface start at boot up. Would you need a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[09:44] <FireHazard17> whats etc stand for? ecetera?
[09:45] <rixxon> yep
[09:45] <intelikey> NickPresta sounds like you need to setup the interfaces file to NON auto   i.e. just a configuration so that it doesn't start them it just knows how.   but i'm pretty short on networking skills
[09:46] <rixxon> FireHazard17: hit alt+f2 and type #hier and press enter
[09:47] <FireHazard17> it say there is no man page for heir
[09:47] <NickPresta> intelikey, well, eth0 and eth1 are setup as auto (and setup as a dhcp connection). Since I am using a static address, eth2 and eth3 were setup for some reason. Do you think it would be wise to set eth2 _or_ eth3 to auto and have the other one "compensate"?
[09:47] <FireHazard17> of rier
[09:47] <FireHazard17> i cant speel
[09:47] <FireHazard17> lmao
[09:47] <FireHazard17> that was an accident
[09:47] <rixxon> hier existed?
[09:47] <FireHazard17> year
[09:47] <FireHazard17> yeah*
[09:48] <FireHazard17> its the man page for the linux filesystem heirachy
[09:48] <FireHazard17> thank you
[09:48] <rixxon> np
[09:48] <rixxon> FireHazard17: other interesting alt+f2 input: wp:fhs
[09:49] <rixxon> takes you to the wikipedia page of the filesystem hierarchy standard.
[09:49] <rixxon> (ain't kde super?)
[09:49] <intelikey> NickPresta i really don't know.  i know the less automatic the better i get along with it cause it's not trying to do things i didn't tell it to.   and actually when i have networking questions, normally no one in here at the time, i ask in ##linux    if no one in here can help with that try there.
[09:49] <NickPresta> intelikey, thank you. I will play around some more and then ask again in a few hours.
[09:50] <FireHazard17> it sure does
[09:50] <intelikey> networking help for NickPresta  ???
[09:50] <FireHazard17> and kde sure is
[09:50] <FireHazard17> i love it
[09:50] <FireHazard17> it actually seems like somthing that can compete comercially
[09:51] <rixxon> try kinfocenter, it lists some of the protocols you can input in alt+f2 and konqueror, some more in the search engines setup of konqueror
[09:51] <rixxon> actually you can ad your own protocols system wide, easily
[09:54] <NickPresta> intelikey, it's okay. It's 4am so I should be getting some sleep anyways. The problem only happens when I restart, which is not too often, so I don't mind if I don't get an answer ASAP.
[09:55] <NickPresta> intelikey, thank you though.
[09:57] <intelikey> NickPresta well that's the kind of help i normally get   heh     but then again my questions are not usually "where is the start button" type questions either.
[09:57] <Ray-> hello, I just installed the kubuntu but I'm having problems with the network, I'm behinde a router I put the IP 10.192.192.3 and the submask 255.255.255.0 and the gateway is 10.192.192.1 but on kubuntu it says invalid gateway IP
[09:57] <intelikey> and you are right about it being an off time....
[09:58] <Ray-> I cann't have net on the kubuntu, and in the syslog there krenel log about connection.. whats going on?
[10:02] <Ray-> hmm
[10:02] <mat1980> Ray-: it seems to be a config problem. What command do you exec?
[10:02] <NickPresta> Ray-, would it be possible for Kubuntu to automatically detect your network settings? That is usually your best bet.
[10:03] <Ray-> it detect dhcp and I dont want a dhcp connection
[10:03] <Ray-> I get my connection from a router
[10:03] <Ray-> I set a manual IP
[10:04] <Ray-> the router ip is 10.192.192.1
[10:04] <Ray-> aint should be the default gateway as well?
[10:04] <NickPresta> Ray-, open up a terminal a type: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfactes
[10:04] <mat1980> Ray-: yes, it should be.
[10:04] <NickPresta> interfaces**
[10:05] <Ray-> NickPresta: okey I have to restart coz I got only 1 PC and my Uni needs us to install the kubuntu
[10:05] <NickPresta> Ray-, hold on. There are more instructions
[10:05] <Ray-> yeah I know thats what I wanna tell you to give me everything so I can reboot and try it out
[10:07] <NickPresta> Ray-, when you type that in (write it down if you don't remember), you should see a bunch of stuff. You will need to find your connection (eth0, eth1, eth2, etc). It should say "iface eth# inet static" where # is your number. That is the interface which is setup to be static. Under it, you can fill in your address, netmask and gateway. Fill it in manually and then save. You should then be able to either rest
[10:07] <NickPresta> art X and have it work, it just have it work after your re-enable your interface in system settings
[10:08] <NickPresta> Ray-, if that doesn't work, you will have to come back here later when the channel is more lively and ask again. Someone else should be able to help you.
[10:08] <Ray-> how to restart X ?
[10:08] <NickPresta> Ray-, control+alt+delete
[10:09] <Ryiel_> ctrl alt backspace
[10:09] <Ray-> okey
[10:09] <Ray-> Thanks.
[10:09] <NickPresta> Ray-, sorry, control + alt + backspace. Not delete.
[10:09] <Ray-> okey :)
[10:09] <Ray-> I'll be back
[10:09] <NickPresta> Good luck
[10:15] <kripl> I have ati radeon X600 and I don't know how to install drivers for it. Can u give some good and simple tutorial ? tn
[10:21] <NickPresta> kripl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver (open source 'radeon' driver) or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI (proprietary driver). I suggest the proprietary driver.
[10:31] <eagles0513875> how do i get back from away
[10:31] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[10:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:31] <NickPresta> eagles0513875, type /away again
[10:32] <eagles0513875> lol im marked as being away still
[10:34] <Ray-> check this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27736/
[10:35] <Ray-> it needs a driver?
[10:35] <Ray-> like win thingies?
[10:35] <NickPresta> Ray-, you can ignore those errors.
[10:35] <Ray-> but I didnt five a static one all the dhcp
[10:35] <NickPresta> oh.
[10:35] <Ray-> find*
[10:37] <Ray-> can I edit it from dhcp to static or no?
[10:38] <NickPresta> Ray-, you have to change the top line from dhcp to: iface eth# inet static
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !away
[10:38] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[10:38] <NickPresta> Ray-, I will show you my file
[10:38] <Ray-> ok that will be good
[10:38] <NickPresta> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37788
[10:39] <kraut> moin
[10:39] <presroi> hello
[10:40] <presroi> I've got a rather bizarre sound problem
[10:40] <presroi> Kubuntu 7.04 was working fine with sound on a live-cd
[10:40] <presroi> and now, there is no sound any more
[10:40] <presroi> the dual-boot win xp is still playing sound and kubuntu seems to recognize the chipset
[10:40] <Ray-> ok I will try it out
[10:40] <Ray-> NickPresta: Thank you.
[10:41] <eagles0513875> presroi: i have duel boot and everythign except for wifi work out of the box for me
[10:42] <eagles0513875> what r the signs of a modem going bad
[10:42] <eagles0513875> cable modem
[10:45] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me if realtek supports linux
[10:46] <eagles0513875> hobbsee
[10:46] <eagles0513875> good morning
[10:46] <Hobbsee> it doesnt, iirc
[11:05] <rand_acs> anyone here know if it's possible to mount a ufs2 partition with rw? ro works fine, but I would like to have rw.
[11:06] <Eruantalon> In Kubuntu Feisty I can't seem to update mythtv-database: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:07] <Eruantalon> How do I choose which password apt-get uses for mysql or alternatively reset the root password?
[11:09] <dromer> how do I activate qemu's accelerator? kqemu
[11:20] <nathan> !dvd
[11:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:22] <praveen_> hey
[11:28] <praveen_> where will i find installed programs
[11:28] <praveen_> i mean on the file manager
[11:30] <psicobra> hi all
[11:30] <praveen_> hi
[11:31] <psicobra> any one know how to get flash working on kubuntu 64 bit?
[11:31] <psicobra> hi praveen_
[11:31] <praveen_> did u try usin wine ?
[11:32] <psicobra> wine?
[11:33] <psicobra> what do you mean?
[11:52] <faidillinger> whats a good software to make music using kubuntu ??? plz ?.
[11:53] <jarn> Is there a way to bring up the run command dialog from the command line?
[11:54] <faidillinger> will kubuntu help me get laid ?
[11:55] <jarn> faidillinger: I'm speaking from experience here - no. :(
[11:56] <psicobra> if you use any linux based OS the chances of you getting laid are pretty low
[11:57] <faidillinger> lol :(
[11:57] <psicobra> unlike me who is getting marride in 3 weeks
[11:57] <nathan> hello
[11:57] <jarn> psicobra is a Microsoft spy!
[11:57] <nathan> anyone fancy givin me a hand with DVD player?
[11:57] <psicobra> jarn: www.mslinux.org
[11:57] <jarn> No Linux user can develop a relationship with a female, so he must be from Microsoft!
[11:57] <psicobra> whuhahaha we are closing in
[11:58] <eagles0513875> hey nathan
[11:58] <eagles0513875> !offitopic | psicobra
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offitopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <psicobra> u see i developed my women skills whilst using windows
[11:58] <eagles0513875> !offtopic | psicobra
[11:58] <ubotu> psicobra: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:58] <nathan> eagles0513875: hey
[11:59] <eagles0513875> were u able to fix ur problem nat
[11:59] <eagles0513875> the one u had last night
[11:59] <psicobra> eagles0513875: he definatley isnt getting laid
[11:59] <eagles0513875> ur point
[11:59] <eagles0513875> good riddance
[11:59] <eagles0513875> bout to get an op on him
[12:00] <eagles0513875> nathan u still having that issue
[12:10] <arash> Hi!, I have three hardware "speakers", one is a speaker set and I have two headphones, though only one seems too be active/working? Anyone know how to fix it?
[12:18] <xbadger> hy guys I have a question: does anyone has a clue if kde4 can be shiped wit kubuntu 7.10?
[12:18] <eagles0513875> i dont think it is
[12:26] <eagles0513875> !kde4
[12:26] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> well my fs corrupted and now Im on a live CD, have to get a new hardisk tomorrow and maybe install gutsy
[12:42] <Banjooie> So let's say I want KSnapshot to stop opening whenever I hit Print Screen.
[12:42] <Banjooie> How do I accomplish such fel shenanigans
[12:42] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore: have u tried running fsck
[12:42] <eagles0513875> try this fsck /dev/name of partition u want to check
[12:43] <nathan> eagle, iv installed libdvdread3 (althrough i dont see it in the start menu), it wont let me download the CSS package?
[12:43] <eagles0513875> what u trying to do nathan lol
[12:43] <eagles0513875> honestly that doesnt tell me vry much lol
[12:44] <nathan> lol.. ok i want to enable linux to play DVD's
[12:44] <nathan> ive been to the page stated when u put !dvd
[12:44] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: yeah, does a big dummy spit about 40% in
[12:44] <eagles0513875> lol it should do it out of the box nathan
[12:44] <eagles0513875> it does for me
[12:45] <eagles0513875> Lg how old is the drive
[12:45] <nathan> what prog does it?
[12:46] <eagles0513875> !dvd
[12:46] <eagles0513875> give me a min nathan
[12:46] <nathan> I got kaffeine, but when i press DVD, it says theres no plugin
[12:46] <eagles0513875> ok hold on
[12:46] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:46] <Banjooie> !ksnapshot
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <eagles0513875> nathan: have u downloaded libdvdcss2
[12:46] <eagles0513875> is that what u r tryign to download
[12:47] <nathan> yeah but it dint turn up in me start menu
[12:47] <eagles0513875> it wont
[12:47] <nathan> no
[12:47] <nathan> eeeh lol
[12:47] <nathan> ok i downloaded libdvdread3
[12:47] <eagles0513875> its just a library
[12:47] <eagles0513875> those r just libraries lol
[12:47] <nathan> lol..
[12:47] <eagles0513875> not programs lol
[12:47] <nathan> ok
[12:47] <eagles0513875> give me a min to search adept
[12:47] <Banjooie> So anyone? How to deactivate ksnapshot?
[12:47] <nathan> the command line
[12:47] <nathan> sudo
[12:48] <nathan> install-css.sh - comp dont find it
[12:48] <eagles0513875> that will be in a pkg
[12:48] <eagles0513875> wait
[12:48] <eagles0513875> nathan
[12:48] <eagles0513875> slow don a bit
[12:48] <eagles0513875> *down
[12:48] <nathan> ok
[12:48] <eagles0513875> open up a command line
[12:48] <nathan> done
[12:49] <eagles0513875> and do sudo apt-get install ogle
[12:49] <eagles0513875> that should play dvds for ya
[12:49] <nathan> dont needanything else for it no?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> if u need other dependencies it will list them as well
[12:49] <eagles0513875> when u type that
[12:49] <hanzz_> do you know some console program which can make charts like this one? http://soumar.netlab.cz/munin/netlab.cz/soumar.netlab.cz-jabber_cluster-day.png
[12:50] <nathan> ok
[12:50] <nathan> so what ogle a plug in for kaffeine or a program itself
[12:50] <eagles0513875> no
[12:50] <eagles0513875> program itself
[12:50] <eagles0513875> hanzz i know u can do charts using latex
[12:50] <eagles0513875> and hanzz u running ur own cluster
[12:51] <eagles0513875> nat let me know if that helps at all
[12:51] <nathan> don mean to bbe a pain but it dont show in start menu.. lmao.. if it does i cant see it
[12:51] <HanzZ> or some console app which can make chart from CVS for example... according to [X,Y] 
[12:51] <eagles0513875> the try kaffine
[12:51] <eagles0513875> and see if it will play then
[12:51] <HanzZ> eagles0513875: it's not my cluster :) but i'm programming some apps for that community
[12:52] <eagles0513875> what community
[12:52] <eagles0513875> HanzZ: is ur name registered
[12:52] <HanzZ> yes
[12:52] <eagles0513875> may i pm ya
[12:52] <HanzZ> 'the best jabber server in our country :)'
[12:52] <eagles0513875> i pmed u
[12:53] <nathan> 12:52:27 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hdc<
[12:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:53] <eagles0513875> ok right click on the k
[12:53] <eagles0513875> and hit menu editor nath
[12:54] <nathan> yup
[12:54] <eagles0513875> click multimedia
[12:55] <eagles0513875> hold that thought
[12:55] <nathan> holding that thought
[12:55] <eagles0513875> right click on multimedia
[12:55] <eagles0513875> wait
[12:55] <eagles0513875> u still have command line open
[12:56] <nathan> yup
[12:56] <eagles0513875> type in ogle
[12:56] <nathan> its thinking
[12:56] <eagles0513875> see what it brings up and try play a dvd
[12:56] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:56] <nathan> u want the good bit or the bad bit lol
[12:57] <eagles0513875> both
[12:57] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:57] <nathan> good bits the program loads
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:57] <eagles0513875> bad
[12:57] <eagles0513875> wont play
[12:58] <nathan> the bad bits either it wont play or my DVD drive is disconnected cuase it wont give me the disc back either lmao
[12:58] <nathan> 1 min
[12:58] <eagles0513875> is it internal or external
[12:58] <nathan> internal but i been inside it
[12:59] <eagles0513875> what u mean
[12:59] <eagles0513875> u took it apart
[12:59] <nathan> its connected... system eject works
[12:59] <nathan> i always takin it apart for some reason or another ll
[01:00] <eagles0513875> never do that to an optical drive like that
[01:00] <eagles0513875> how old is the drive
[01:00] <nathan> i dont mean i took the drive apart
[01:00] <nathan> lol
[01:00] <nathan> i meant the computer
[01:00] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:00] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:01] <nathan> didn't start DVD
[01:01] <nathan> however command line did return tis
[01:01] <nathan> : Found a scrambled PES packet! (1)
[01:01] <eagles0513875> dunno what that means
[01:02] <nathan> now its being plain bent lmao
[01:02] <faidillinger> how can i make firefox open a new message window (kmail) when i click on a mail adress (mailto:)
[01:02] <faidillinger> ??
[01:02] <eagles0513875> nathan how old is the dvd drive u have
[01:02] <nathan> not that old
[01:02] <nathan> works fine in XP lol..
[01:03] <eagles0513875> interesting
[01:03] <nathan> fairly new i believe about a year old or so
[01:03] <eagles0513875> nathan i dunno
[01:03] <eagles0513875> it could be a feisty bug
[01:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:03] <nathan> if it sez scrambled i guessin i need that CSS thing
[01:03] <eagles0513875> i gtg to lunch ill be on in a lil while
[01:03] <nathan> ok mate see ya later
[01:06] <djdarkman_> Why does amarok hog the entire sound output?
[01:07] <djdarkman_> I mean if I play with amarok I can`t use other apps that play sound
[01:07] <Banjooie> Because you're doing it wrong
[01:07] <djdarkman_> And how to do it right?
[01:07] <Banjooie> I've had programs compete with Amarok, you probably have oss set instead of alsa somewhere.
[01:07] <Banjooie> That's usually why.
[01:08] <djdarkman_> let`s see amarok uses alsa, smplayer is configured to use alsa... don`t see what I`m doing wrong
[01:09] <Banjooie> Hm.
[01:09] <Banjooie> That's....odd. I don't know, then, that's usually the only reason I ever have that problem.
[01:09] <djdarkman_> this is worst than my other problem, with udev that keeps maping my soundcards differently with every restart
[01:13] <mateo> Hi
[01:13] <mateo> im trying to upgrade to kubuntu-desktop
[01:14] <mateo> but apt says
[01:14] <djdarkman_> btw, does someone here undrestands udev?
[01:14] <mateo> python2.5-dev: Depende: python2.5 (= 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3) pero 2.5.1-0ubuntu1 va a ser instalado
[01:14] <mateo> E: Paquetes rotos
[01:14] <mateo> broken packages
[01:14] <djdarkman_> mateo: in english?
[01:15] <mateo> how can I take the messages in english ?
[01:16] <mateo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:16] <mateo>   python2.5-dev: Depends: python2.5 (= 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3) but 2.5.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:16] <mateo> E: Broken packages
[01:16] <mateo> done
[01:17] <djdarkman_> mateo: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:21] <mateo> apt-get -f install
[01:21] <mateo> Reading package lists... Done
[01:21] <mateo> Building dependency tree
[01:21] <mateo> Reading state information... Done
[01:21] <mateo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:21] <mateo> im now in ubuntu btw
[01:21] <mateo> trying to upgrade with 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[01:25] <mateo> any idea ?
[01:30] <fritz> do components installed with crossover installer cease to function if you iuninstall the crossover manager?
[01:30] <balaji> how to check whether the wireless lan is working or not?
[01:32] <balaji> anybody can help?
[01:37] <mike> balaji: is there an eth1 entry in your network settings ?
[01:38] <Ace2016> why use crossover
[01:38] <Ace2016> just use seamless xp in linux
[01:58] <lovely> Does anyone know why the device driver would keep old usb drive connects in the que that do not go abywaere? I have but one and now it is called usbdrive-4. usbdrive thru usbdrive-3 go nowhere and connect with nothing. these are visable in the GUI as well as with a terminal. in the terminal when asked  'cd /media/usbdrive-2'   no such directory.
[01:59] <agu__> hey
[02:06] <leonardo> blabla
[02:07] <leonardo> ......
[02:07] <lovely> is ther a wasy to maunually mount or unmount a drive?
[02:07] <lovely> way
[02:12] <posingaspopular> lovely:
[02:12] <lovely> how do I manually mount and dismount a drive?
[02:12] <posingaspopular> opps. lovely: mount /something or another
[02:12] <posingaspopular> hang on, let me pull up the guide
[02:12] <lovely> thank you.
[02:12] <posingaspopular> !mount
[02:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:12] <gnomefreak> who wants to crash konq for me
[02:12] <posingaspopular> !diskmounter
[02:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:12] <gnomefreak> to see if it crashes
[02:13] <gnomefreak> posingaspopular: please use /msg ubotu
[02:13] <posingaspopular> gnomefreak: yes sorry. its been awhile since i've used the bot
[02:16] <posingaspopular> lovely: this should be the guide. let me know if you need more help. https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/user-guide/C/gosnautilus-460.html
[02:18] <joaquin> hola alguien me puede decir el servidor espaol
[02:18] <posingaspopular> !es
[02:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:19] <lovely> posingaspopular: thank you I will look there, right now it is a mount failure code 32
[02:20] <Maxdamantus> Uhh.. How do you install a .deb file with apt-get again?
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> Nvm.
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> -i
[02:23] <posingaspopular> lovely: i have no idea what that means, but i can ask my brother to take a look at it if you still have trouble in a few
[02:25] <lovely> posingaspopular: ok I actually have two problem that I think may be interelated. one is the cdrom stoped working. that is the code 32 when In try to mount.   two is the usbdrive wich the system settings does not show multiples, I am going to try to unmount them in terminal.
[02:26] <posingaspopular> lovely: what command are you using to unmount?
[02:27] <lovely> !diskmounter
[02:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:27] <lovely> oops
[02:30] <posingaspopular> yea you can't do it with a !command. you have to go to help.ubuntu.com and search from there
[02:31] <lovely> posingaspopular: I dont have one at the moment, but tried lovely@Hermes:/media$ mount /cdrom   mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified     lovely@Hermes:/media$ mount /cdrom0   mount: can't find /cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:32] <lovely> Searching
[02:33] <posingaspopular> what does 'ls usb' tell you
[02:37] <lovely> posingaspopular: ls: usb: No such file or directory
[02:37] <posingaspopular> !paste
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <lovely> posingaspopular: found nothing to help, only to help mount
[02:37] <frantek> hi
[02:37] <posingaspopular> !hi
[02:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:39] <lovely> posingaspopular: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27759/
[02:39] <lovely> posingaspopular: I have but one cdrom and one usbdrive
[02:41] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27760/
[02:41] <posingaspopular> that's mine
[02:41] <posingaspopular> my ipod is plugged in, a mouse, not sure the rest
[02:42] <posingaspopular> is it unmount or umount?
[02:42] <posingaspopular> would that make a difference?
[02:43] <frantek> i've a kdm/nfs problem: i've a nfs mount (mounted by fstab) where the user homes (and other data) are located. when a user logs off (kde) the nfs mount is unmounted too. i do not know why. i've many systems some dapper some edgy. only the edgy - only the edgy clients show this ... how can i prevent the nfs mount from being dismounted - i'm absolutely clueless :(
[02:44] <lovely> posingaspopular: umount: usbdrive-1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[02:44] <posingaspopular> and mount usbdrive-1 does what?
[02:45] <lovely> posingaspopular: mount: can't find usbdrive-1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:47] <posingaspopular> lovely:
[02:48] <posingaspopular> oops. sorry. i have no idea. im trying to see if there's anyone in the room atm who can help you, but i dont recognize any nicks. i duno what to tell you
[02:49] <Djservers> yo
[02:49] <Djservers> havent bin here for long my pc chrashed :P
[02:50] <lovely> posingaspopular: thxs for attempting
[02:50] <UbuntuFeisty> kate or kedit for text editor?
[02:51] <posingaspopular> Hobbsee: are you around?
[02:52] <Djservers> !ubotu
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[02:53] <icecruncher> !sourceomatik
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourceomatik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <icecruncher> !sourceomatix
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourceomatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <ardchoille> !easysource
[02:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:54] <icecruncher> thnks
[02:55] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:01] <eagles0513875> hobb
[03:01] <eagles0513875> hobsee may i pm ya plz
[03:02] <eagles0513875> im getting really upset
[03:03] <eagles0513875> ive isolated my connection issue to my house my cousins net connection is fine
[03:03] <UbuntuFeisty> ubotu: PT
[03:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:06] <eagles0513875> any one from malta
[03:09] <Djservers> just format my harddisk now on live cd
[03:14] <dany_21> hello room, does KDE (or any service) deletes files from the thumbnail-cache (~/.thumbnails/) sometimes?  bec. most times, if I access pictures from my hardrive, the thumbs have to be recreated, although I have not changed/touched the pictures
[03:15] <blackangel> hello all
[03:18] <paolo_>  Hi. how can i pipe a string to a process with a precise pid?
[03:19] <redha> hi guys, how does one add programs to startup??
[03:19] <IppatsuManXYZ> redha: put a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:19] <redha> symbolic link?
[03:20] <IppatsuManXYZ> yes, if you like it
[03:23] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: I don't think it's possilbe unless the target process uses a named pipe or something like that
[03:24] <redha> lppatsuManXYZ: Thanks man :)
[03:24] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: I was wrong :P
[03:25] <IppatsuManXYZ> try to redirect the deired output to /proc/pidofprocess/fd/1
[03:25] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: ?
[03:25] <IppatsuManXYZ> *desired
[03:25] <paolo_> mmm
[03:25] <paolo_> well let's try
[03:26] <IppatsuManXYZ> wrong again, stdin is 0, not 1
[03:31] <hello_> ls
[03:34] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: unfortunately it didn't work
[03:34] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: probably the best solution is to use named pipes
[03:35] <paolo_> fifos?
[03:35] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: ?
[03:37] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: a named pipe allows to create a special file that can be used as output for a process and as input for another process
[03:37] <IppatsuManXYZ> it "gives a name" to standard input and standard output of a process
[03:38] <IppatsuManXYZ> man mkfifo, it's easier to understand than me :P
[03:40] <paolo_> i did man 2 fifo:)
[03:40] <paolo_> ok
[03:41] <Linracoon> how can i with apt-get remove a package without checking dependencies?
[03:43] <msetim> Hi
[03:45] <msetim> how can I install the spcaxx? I have a webcam and I would like use it.
[03:46] <mat1980> msetim: it should be already installed.
[03:46] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: i don't understand yet. is this the correct way of proceeding?   mkfifo fifosname;   cat fifosname | someprocess and in another terminal  echo blahblah > fifosname
[03:46] <paolo_> ?
[03:47] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: yes, that should work
[03:47] <kamui> I can't get suspend or hibernate to work.  Suspend locks up my laptop, and hibernate just doesn't do anything.  Where should I look to try and figure out whats going on when I execute the s2ram command to find out whats locking up my laptop before it can suspend
[03:48] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: unfortunately it doesn't:)
[03:48] <msetim> mat1980: Nope :) My kopete don't detect my webcam.
[03:49] <mat1980> msetim: try sudo modprobe spcaxx
[03:50] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: great
[03:50] <paolo_> it worked!
[03:50] <IppatsuManXYZ> good :)
[03:51] <mat1980> msetim: uhm... the module's name should be gspca (the new versione of spca5xx), so  sudo modprobe gspca
[03:54] <msetim> mat1980: I'm installing it now :)
[03:56] <killux> how can I make fluxbox the WM of the KDE suite?
[03:58] <Pensacola> is there a way to configure the media keys on a keyboard in kubuntu?
[03:59] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: is there a command which flushes the fifo?
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok still won't launch, and their channel's about as helpful as hellen keller.
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> helen*
[04:00] <timte> How do I get a PDF printer in Firefox?
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: "print to pdf"
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[04:00] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: as far as I know, no. Try to echo a blank line to the fifo.
[04:01] <timte> Daisuke_Ido: but I see no such option
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> print a file to pdf, or actually print a dead tree copy OF a pdf?
[04:01] <IppatsuManXYZ> timte: you can choose "print to file" and convert the resulting .ps file to .pdf
[04:01] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: echo ...? .... > fifosname ?
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: what are you printing from?
[04:01] <IppatsuManXYZ> timte: or you can install cups-pdf and it'll create a virtual printer that firefox can use
[04:01] <timte> Daisuke_Ido: Firefox
[04:01] <killux> how can I make fluxbox the WM of the KDE suite?
[04:01] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: echo > fifosname
[04:02] <paolo_> ok
[04:02] <IppatsuManXYZ> (if you don't pass any argument, echo will just echo a \n)
[04:02] <timte> IppatsuManXYZ: I installed that actually, but Firefox doesn't show anything extra
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: honestly, it would be easiest to do that from konqueror
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> and IppatsuManXYZ: FF doesn't do pdf.
[04:03] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: it doesn't work
[04:03] <IppatsuManXYZ> timte: did you executed sudo chmod +s /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf ?
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> IppatsuManXYZ: FF will still not have the option.
[04:04] <IppatsuManXYZ> Daisuke_Ido: I print web pages to pdf using cups-pdf all days
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: i still recommend using konqueror to do the pdf printing
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> !worksforme | IppatsuManXYZ
[04:04] <ubotu> IppatsuManXYZ: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:05] <Daisuke_Ido> not entirely applicable, but close enough.
[04:10] <mneisen> Hi, after solving my troubles with my boot partition (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman/+bug/122563 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484030) I still have a problem with unresolved dependencies when upgrading the kernel (see http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/27769/). Anybody know how to fix this?
[04:10] <SeanTater> What's a good graphica benchmark? Like something other than glxgears?
[04:10] <SeanTater>  /graphics/
[04:12] <BluesKaj> I see google desktop search for linux is available : http://desktop.google.com/linux/download.html
[04:13] <IppatsuManXYZ> wait for KDE4 and strigi
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> #amarok's useless :\
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> as are amarok's error messages
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> Amarok: [Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
[04:15] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: i've found the problem but, in order to solve it i have to retrieve the file descriptor of the fifo
[04:15] <paolo_> how can i do?
[04:17] <Kazade> is it possible to add stuff to the right-click menu in the KDE 3.5.x version of dolphin ?
[04:17] <SQUALL2> hasan2 where r u?
[04:18] <IppatsuManXYZ> Daisuke_Ido: does strace'ing give a more helpful message?
[04:20] <kamui> funk
[04:21] <balaji> how do i make .avi files run in vlc or in general in linux
[04:22] <kamui> suspend just wont work
[04:22] <kamui> crap crap crap
[04:24] <balaji>  how do i make .avi files run in vlc or in general in linux
[04:24] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: no ideas about that, you can try looking for it under /proc, but I don't think it's a good idea
[04:24] <Arwen> ah man.... my /home partition is starting to get so fragmented that my videos are skipping....
[04:24] <IppatsuManXYZ> !Codecs | balaji
[04:24] <ubotu> balaji: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <jhutchins> Arwen: What filesystem?
[04:27] <Arwen> jhutchins, ext2/3
[04:28] <icecruncher> what is the bes way to format a disk in command line (fat32)
[04:28] <icecruncher> ?
[04:28] <Arwen> mkfs.vfat -F 32
[04:29] <icecruncher> Arwen: mkfs.vfat -F 32 <device> ? do you need to unmount the partition?
[04:29] <Arwen> yes and yes
[04:30] <icecruncher> Arwen: thnks
[04:31] <icecruncher> Arwen: need to be  root?
[04:31] <Arwen> icecruncher, duh? lol
[04:31] <icecruncher> Arwen: lol
[04:32] <Al-Bundy> LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL
[04:32] <Arwen> ...
[04:33] <Arwen> it's really starting to piss me off
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i feel your pain.
[04:34] <Arwen> then again, now that I think of it, it could be that my swap is stealing HD performance... hmm...
[04:34] <llutz> Arwen: defrag doesn't work?
[04:35] <Arwen> llutz, the only way to defrag an ext partition is to delete it, make a new one, and restore from backup...
[04:35] <llutz> Arwen: nope, defrag can defrag ext2-filesystems
[04:35] <timte> IppatsuManXYZ: I hadn't, but I have now and no difference
[04:35] <Arwen> yes.... but only ext2 ones... and not safely
[04:35] <llutz> Arwen: ext3 cleanly unmounted = ext2
[04:36] <Arwen> llutz, uh, no, in fact, it says on defrag's page that you should never try to use it on an ext3 fs
[04:36] <Arwen> because of some extra flags in newer revisions
[04:36] <dr_willis> I cant recall ever needing to use defrag.
[04:36] <llutz> Arwen: only think can happen is, that you lose you logs
[04:36] <Arwen> either way, it's not worth it since you have to do it offline...
[04:36] <timte> Daisuke_Ido: I'd like to use konqueror too, but the site I need this for complains that the browser isn't secure enough
[04:36] <Arwen> might as well start fresh if I have to boot a Live CD
[04:38] <Ze_M> i have deleted and readded a user but now says doesnt belong to passwd and i cant enter admin mode,how can i resolve this?
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: print to PS and convert to pdf, i suppose
[04:39] <dr_willis> You mean deletted/readded your FIRST sudoer user?
[04:39] <Ze_M> dr_willis: yes
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> that wasn't a good idea.
[04:39] <dr_willis> some how get to the existing install and edit the groups file. and perhaps the sudoers file.
[04:40] <Ze_M> dr_willis: how if i dont have root acess?
[04:40] <dr_willis> admin:x:117:YOURUSERNAME
[04:40] <dr_willis> thats what a live cd  will let you do.
[04:40] <Ze_M> a live cd?
[04:40] <Arwen> Ze_M, from a live cd, or from recovery mode
[04:40] <Arwen> .......
[04:40] <balaji> k thank u
[04:40] <dr_willis> yes. a live cd... OR use the reovery mode, or make it boot to single user mode.
[04:40] <icecruncher> ok, my entire desktop ust froze, any suggestions?
[04:40] <Ze_M> i have to run the live cd and then run admin:x:117:YOURUSERNAME from console?
[04:40] <ksivaji> balaji hi man how are you ?
[04:41] <MitchM> I cannot see taskbar items on my launcher
[04:41] <RytmenPinnen> How do I install .package?
[04:41] <dr_willis> No.. you EDIT THE GROUPS file and put that line in there.
[04:41] <MitchM> minimized windows are just ... not there in KDE
[04:41] <Ze_M> dr_willis: how do enter recovery mode?
[04:41] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  an autopackage file? theres a web site that has some command ya need to run i recall to get them working
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Ze_M: LIVE CD
[04:41] <MitchM> (i still however have the regular menu buttons on my taskbar)
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ffs
[04:41] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  it says "recovery mode" right there on my GRUB menu.
[04:41] <RytmenPinnen> maby that's what it is
[04:41] <MitchM> Any ideas?
[04:42] <Ze_M> dr_willis: reboot to recovery mode
[04:42] <dr_willis> Ubuntu (whatever)  then Ubuntu (reovery mode)
[04:42] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I think there's an autopackage software
[04:42] <Ze_M> dr_willis: whats the file to edit
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> no, really?  i can't imagine the autopackage format would have software to install files of that format...
[04:42] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  /etc/groups
[04:43] <dr_willis> i forget the proper command to add the groups - i rarely mess with them.
[04:43] <Ze_M> dr_willis: and /etc/passwd?
[04:43] <MitchM> groupadd ?
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> why the eff would you touch /etc/passwd?
[04:43] <Ze_M> dr_willis: when i try to enter sudo mode says that the user doesnt exists in  /etc/passwd
[04:43] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  if you readded the user. hes just not ion the proper admin group. thats the whole problem
[04:43] <MitchM> Ze_M, groupadd --help
[04:44] <llutz> adduser user group
[04:44] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  then you dident add the user right would be my guess
[04:44] <Ze_M> dr_willis: i did do it through kuser
[04:44] <MitchM> Anyone know why I cant see open programs on my taskbar??
[04:44] <MitchM> or minimized programs either?
[04:44] <MitchM> or my other desktops?
[04:44] <Ze_M> Ze_M: so i just need to edit /etc/groups?
[04:45] <IppatsuManXYZ> MitchM: right click on a free spot of the bar and choose "add applet to panel"
[04:45] <MitchM> Ze_M: correct
[04:45] <Ze_M> ok
[04:45] <dr_willis> MitchM,  either you tweaked your  program/panel/taskbar settings.. or got somthing else confuised.. Try a new user. see if it works for them.  You could perhaps reset your kde settings by removing the proper files from the .kde dir.
[04:45] <IppatsuManXYZ> then look for "taskbar" and add it
[04:46] <MitchM> dr_willis: this is how it was from live cd -> install
[04:46] <dr_willis> MitchM,  odd. Create a new user. see if it works right for them.
[04:46] <dr_willis> If it dosent.. then theres some bigger issue going on
[04:46] <MitchM> *nods*
[04:46] <MitchM> already checked bugs in launchpad
[04:46] <MitchM> will try a new user though
[04:47] <ksivaji> can i install oracle in kubuntu...
[04:47] <dr_willis> can you install it in linux? or debian? :) if so proberly can.
[04:48] <ubuntu_> guys
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> what
[04:48] <dr_willis> Gee.. couldent come up with a better nick? :)
[04:49] <ksivaji>   dr_willis     fine using wine or normal installation
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> add another underscore, your nick isn't quite bad enough yet.
[04:49] <dr_willis> oracal with wine... scary....
[04:49] <Ze_M> dr_willis: in boot i dont have any recovery mode, after hitting tab key appeared: linux, old, hda4-ubuntu and hda6-Linux
[04:49] <Ze_M> i have feysty ppc
[04:49] <dr_willis> old? what all ya got isntalled on that thing.. heh...
[04:49] <dr_willis> ppc? eww.. Hmm... Im not even sure if you are using GRUB or not.
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> oracle is available for linux, no?
[04:49] <dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  no idea. :)
[04:49] <Ze_M> dr_willis: no, isnt grub
[04:50] <Ze_M> or at least i dont have any boot graphic menu
[04:50] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  then you  need to learn how to 'edit' the boot lines from your boot loader.. or use a live cd.
[04:50] <dr_willis> edit the boot menu kernel= line.. add 'single' to the end. and boot it.. if you can.
[04:50] <sumigamer> guys in the default kubuntu desktop, how do I replace the K menu logo with the kubuntu logo ( like in other KDE based distros??)
[04:50] <dr_willis> that should get you to a root shell.
[04:50] <Ze_M> dr_willis: so after entering with livecd, how do i access the installed files?
[04:51] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  you mount the local drives and then  edit the /etc/whatever files with root permissions.
[04:51] <Ze_M> dr_willis: you said /etc/groups
[04:51] <dr_willis> you are at least rembering then. :) A+
[04:51] <msetim> I have a kayomi usb wireless and I would like to use it on my kubuntu, How can i know if it is compatible?
[04:51] <sumigamer> guys in the default kubuntu desktop, how do I replace the K menu logo with the kubuntu logo ( like in other KDE based distros??)
[04:52] <Ze_M> dr_willis: do i need to edit more files?
[04:53] <dettoaltrimenti> How can I get kopete from asking for a password from the kde wallet? I don't have the wallet installed, and can't find any way to turn it off from kopete's configure
[04:54] <lupul> hi there. please someone tell me what's the name of the kde icons package!
[04:54] <Arwen> crystalsvg I think
[04:54] <ksivaji> Arwen kde-look.org
[04:55] <tmbg> so I just updated my 'nvidia' driver (the accelerated one). is there a way to switch to it without rebooting?
[04:55] <llutz> tmbg: restart X
[04:56] <tmbg> ah.
[04:56] <ardchoille> dettoaltrimenti: You need to modify the individual account, there's a "Remeber password" option in each account.
[04:56] <tmbg> llutz, how do I check the version # I'm currently on?
[04:57] <dettoaltrimenti> ardchoille, I have all those passwords saved, it still asks me for my kde wallet password
[04:57] <ardchoille> tmbg: lsb_release -a
[04:58] <tmbg> that didn't really tell me anything.
[04:58] <ardchoille> dettoaltrimenti: Hmm, I don't know then. I have those "Rember password" options checked in each account and kopete never asks me for a password. I have the kwallet disabled.
[04:58] <Derminator> HI... Can someone say me, how to restart the Soundserver without rebooting?
[04:58] <ardchoille> tmbg: lsb_relase -a should tell you a lot of info about your release.
[04:58] <llutz> tmbg: aptitude show nvidia-glx-new (-legacy)
[04:58] <tmbg> doesn't tell me my nvidia driver version.
[04:59] <ardchoille> tmbg: Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. My bad.
[04:59] <tmbg> np
[05:01] <jhutchins> Arwen: So I thought ext wasn't supposed to fragment?
[05:02] <jhutchins> Arwen: Don't remember ever seeing a defrag tool for it.
[05:02] <Arwen> jhutchins, everything fragments.
[05:02] <Arwen> ext just doesn't have a defragment
[05:02] <Arwen> it's not as excessive as FAT, but when your partition free space approaches 0...
[05:02] <Derminator> Hello, can someone please say me, how to restart the soundserver without rebooting the pc? please privat!
[05:05] <ubuntu_> iuo
[05:05] <tmbg> Arwen, how is stuff defragged or is it at all?
[05:05] <ubuntu_> the ponitn fer manyh porra
[05:06] <tmbg> b/c I have some files like this: 13708 extents found, perfection would be 6 extents, reported from filefrag.
[05:06] <RytmenPinnen> umm, is there a .dev search site?
[05:06] <icecruncher> help, konq dolphin keep stalling when I open them, as in they wont display any contents in any folders
[05:07] <Arwen> tmbg, you don't defrag. You delete partitions and restore from backup :-\
[05:07] <RytmenPinnen> I'm trying to install autopackage but I can only find rpms
[05:07] <Arwen> RytmenPinnen, autopackage = fail
[05:07] <tmbg> Arwen, 3rd party tools maybe?
[05:07] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  last i looked ther ewas an actual 'auto package' site that had somthing you installed first.
[05:07] <dr_willis> http://autopackage.org/
[05:07] <dr_willis> google to the rescue
[05:07] <Arwen> tmbg, no, there's just an old version of defrag2fs which doesn't really work no more and isn't terribly safe
[05:07] <RytmenPinnen> k :)
[05:07] <jhutchins> !autopackage
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <dr_willis> Not to say that autopakcages WORK very well
[05:08] <dr_willis> and they are unsupported by ubuntu, and about any other disrto out
[05:08] <tmbg> sucks.
[05:08] <Arwen> autopackage is one of the worst things that have ever come to Linux :-\
[05:08] <RytmenPinnen> haha
[05:08] <jhutchins> Given significantly different system layouts.
[05:08] <dr_willis> then theres that 'klik' pcakages :)
[05:08] <RytmenPinnen> is there anything that's ever gonna replace rpm and .deb?
[05:08] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: There's probably a better way to do whatever it is you're after.
[05:08] <RytmenPinnen> its kind of annyong when I sometimes just find rpms for apps I want
[05:08] <dr_willis> http://klik.atekon.de/
[05:09] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  what app may this be?
[05:09] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: Learn to build packages for your distro from tarballs.
[05:09] <RytmenPinnen> warzone 2100 , a game :)=
[05:09] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: It's far better than trying to convert a package meant for a different distro.
[05:09] <Arwen> !packaging | RytmenPinnen
[05:09] <RytmenPinnen> aha, But I almost allways succeds installing tarballs without problem
[05:09] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[05:09] <Arwen> get to work now
[05:10] <RytmenPinnen> :)
[05:10] <ksivaji> !info sql
[05:10] <ubotu> Package sql does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:10] <dr_willis> I recall seeing warzone in some debs I think.
[05:10] <dr_willis> but i may be confused. :)
[05:10] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: Every time you install a tarball without making a deb first, you break the package manager.
[05:10] <ksivaji> !sql
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <RytmenPinnen> O.o
[05:10] <nathan> anyone good with DVD? i got ogle, but when i try and run a DVD it console says scrambled PES packet
[05:10] <dr_willis> its highly likely i just installed the tar.gz for my user. and that was it...
[05:11] <dr_willis> proberly was. I recall playing the game for all of... 10 min. :)
[05:11] <Arwen> nathan, ....good with dvd?
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> I normally just do sh install if there's an install file
[05:11] <dr_willis> so installed it for the local user. and dident have to mess the system up
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> and the app installs itself :)
[05:11] <nathan> good with getting a player working .. lol
[05:11] <Arwen> RytmenPinnen, doing anything other than building a deb trashes your system...
[05:11] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | nathan
[05:11] <ubotu> nathan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> it does? o.O
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> ok :D
[05:11] <loader> este vre-un roman aici?
[05:11] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  well it can.. this is why I install games like that for a SINGLE USER. :)
[05:12] <Arwen> you're basically missing libdvdcss2, nathan
[05:12] <Arwen> !medibuntu | nathan
[05:12] <ubotu> nathan: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:12] <Ancient1> Hi. just installed kubuntu. when i try and run a script with sudo -s it says auth. failed ! but I am the SU ?!?!
[05:12] <dr_willis> http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Warzone2100
[05:12] <dr_willis> seems to have packages for that game
[05:13] <Ancient1> without the script = no web
[05:13] <RytmenPinnen> aah
[05:13] <ubuntu> hello, i have an question?
[05:13] <dr_willis> amazing what googling for 'warzone deb' finds. :)
[05:13] <RytmenPinnen> thanks :) It seems kind of painstaking to make those debs (I didnt really read the guide but its seems long)
[05:14] <RytmenPinnen> I tried that ... :(
[05:14] <dr_willis> amazing at all the unoifficial sites comming out now for software
[05:14] <dr_willis> http://www.google.com/search?q=warzone+2100+deb+package
[05:14] <ubuntu>  im trying to find a solution with  the error /bin/sh: cant access tty;job control turned off with gutsy tribe 2 cd. I get that everytime but when i unplug my hard drive it boots. Im running from cd now
[05:14] <RytmenPinnen> why cant they just place it in the repositories?
[05:14] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  just a guess.. but LICENSING/LEGAL issues
[05:15] <dr_willis> why should they put every game out in the 'official/supported' repositories. :)
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> ah, I believe Suse had it
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> why not :D
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> games are fun ^^
[05:15] <Arwen> games aren't fun if you have ATI...
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> unless they suck which many of the games in the repositories do :P
[05:16] <SlimeyPete> not all games are fun. Minesweeper isn't fun.
[05:16] <dr_willis> id rather seem them use their limited funds/support staff on thinbgs ohter then games.
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> hehe that's correct :P sooo..... buy nvidia next time ^^
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> ah well, that makes sence
[05:17] <dr_willis> IRC is the ultimate game.
[05:17] <Narada> kubunku rocks!
[05:17] <jhutchins> With all the problems I see in IRC, I wouldn't be considering either ATI or Nvidia if I were shopping for a new graphics card.
[05:18] <RytmenPinnen> IRC is a genius way of communicating
[05:18] <jhutchins> I mean, there ARE other vendors out there.
[05:18] <RytmenPinnen> none that can run doom 3 .... or are there o.o
[05:18] <RytmenPinnen> I know voodoo2 can run doom3 ^^
[05:18] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  name a few.. only other one i can think of is Matrox and SIS. both of which ive also heard bad things about.
[05:19] <Arwen> Narada, what's Kubunku?
[05:19] <dr_willis> I got a Voodoo3 card somewhere... :)
[05:19] <Arwen> dr_willis, hehe
[05:19] <dr_willis> Intel needs to come out with some kicking stand alone cards with full linux support.
[05:19] <dr_willis> THEN id jump to intel in an instant.
[05:19] <RytmenPinnen> http://www.firingsquad.com/media/gallery_index.asp/244 :D
[05:19] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Intell
[05:20] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  last i looked. I cant just go buy an intel pcie or agp card.
[05:20] <RytmenPinnen> they dont really make fast gfx's
[05:20] <dr_willis> Unless theyve released stuff and i dident notice it recently. :)
[05:21] <dr_willis> Intel has the Backing and experience/people to slap ati and nvidia around.. :) if they wanted to. Im thinking.
[05:21] <andi> hi there, has anyone in here experienced the "white cube" problem with beryl and an intel shared memory graphics card using the driver i810?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> Intel needs AMD/ATI to keep pushing them ...it's good for the consumer
[05:22] <jhutchins> S3, SiS, VIA...
[05:23] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[05:23] <ksivaji> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:23] <ksivaji> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:23] <dr_willis> so specify it. :)
[05:23] <dr_willis> cd = iso9660
[05:23] <ksivaji> what file system should i specify
[05:23] <ksivaji> ?
[05:23] <dr_willis> every one knows that. :)  even my dog.. (kidding)
[05:23] <llutz> ksivaji: at least iso9660 should work
[05:23] <dr_willis> heh heh...
[05:24] <ksivaji> ok
[05:24] <jhutchins> Whatever happened to that kid who kept posting his password so we could fix his fstab?
[05:25] <andi> none? alright, thanck you anyway
[05:25] <andi> -c
[05:26] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  im guessing he ranted about how ubuntu sucks and  the system regiestry is better in windows.
[05:26] <dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <ultm8> hey folks is there any1 in here using a geforce 8800 gts card with kubuntu?
[05:27] <Arwen> well, the system registry *is* a good idea, it just has implementation issues
[05:27] <Arwen> ultm8, no, but what's your question?
[05:27] <ultm8> well
[05:27] <dr_willis> ultm8,  ive heard that card has some issues  - the official/lkatest nvidia drivers may be needed. (not that i know from personal experience.. its just what ive heard)
[05:27] <ultm8> am having loads of problems since i did a distro upgrade
[05:27] <dr_willis> did it work fine befor?
[05:27] <ultm8> yeah it did
[05:28] <ultm8> until now :(
[05:28] <ultm8> so i redownloaded the latest nvdia drivers from their site
[05:28] <ultm8> installed them
[05:28] <ultm8> startx
[05:28] <ultm8> resolution is out and the 3dfx arent enabled anymore
[05:29] <ultm8> i was hoping my now there would be binary drivers out
[05:29] <ultm8> *by
[05:29] <ultm8> i guess am screwed
[05:29] <ultm8> might be time to try another distro....
[05:30] <icecruncher> erm, ... anybody know why konqueror wont show me any files in the filesystem, but freezes?
[05:30] <icecruncher> it keeps stalling, and then shows 0 files/ 0 folders, no matter which location i type in
[05:30] <dr_willis> You tried installing the nvidia-glx drivers again.
[05:31] <Raze> So, I'm an idiot and messed up my apache2 install. removing/reinstalling with apt-get hasn't seemed to fix the problem (no apache2.conf, but I'm sure that's not the only thing wrong). Is there anyways I can completely eliminate it all form teh system and correctly reinstall it?
[05:31] <NSCAD_Nathan> is there any way to have kwallet not promt me for the password when a software tries to access it?  I can't seem to switch it
[05:31] <jhutchins> Raze: Did you remove with the --purge option?
[05:31] <icecruncher> Raze: aptitude purge
[05:31] <Raze> I used adept manager's purge
[05:31] <Raze> I'll try apt-get's
[05:32] <jhutchins> Raze: What problem are you trying to fix?
[05:32] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (192.168.1.150). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[05:32] <NickPresta> he computer restarts so I'm not sure how I would go about making only one interface start at boot up.
[05:32] <Raze> The deamon won't start because the apache2.conf is gone.
[05:32] <Raze> Long story how that ahppened :/
[05:33] <jhutchins> Raze: So you've reinstalled it, but you didn't get a conf file?
[05:34] <Raze> Yes.
[05:34] <NSCAD_Nathan> I unchecked "Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet" and kontact has "always allow".  So it doesn't bug me if the wallet is open alrerady, Is there any way to avoid that first having to log in to kwallet?
[05:34] <Raze> I'm thinking there are probably other problems, though.
[05:34] <RytmenPinnen> ummm
[05:34] <rabby> can one of You tell me, please, how to downgrad my feisty from 64 to 32 bit?
[05:34] <dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  i think thats a bit of a security thing. Not sure if you can disable it..
[05:34] <NSCAD_Nathan> security shmecurity
[05:34] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: No, kubuntu's packagers decided it was Good For You to have to do it that way.
[05:34] <NickPresta> rabby, AFAIK, you can't. You need to reinstall using the 32bit installation CD.
[05:35] <RytmenPinnen> How do I configure a libphysfs package?
[05:35] <dr_willis> #kde guys may know  more. - Not sure if thats a Kubuntu thing.. or kde thing.
[05:35] <SlimeyPete> rabby: I think you have to reinstall.
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> they obviously don't know me
[05:35] <Raze> Is there any place I can get a default apache2.conf?
[05:35] <RytmenPinnen> the install is whineing
[05:35] <jhutchins> rabby: Yeah, you need a completely clean install.
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> or rather... know my wife... :p
[05:35] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: There's a lot they don't know.
[05:35] <dr_willis> set the password to be 'takeoutthetrash' so she can always rember it.
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> "why do these windows keep popping up?"  - gah!
[05:36] <NickPresta> Raze, I can post you my apache 2 config file. I compiled Apache 2.2.4 from source though.
[05:36] <dr_willis> Honestly - i rarely see that kwallet thing pop up. I got it set to never time out.. so i login on monday... and  thats about it. :)
[05:36] <jhutchins> Raze: do a dpkg -L apache2, see if it just installed it somewhere else.
[05:37] <phantom_> How do i force version in KDE (Block it from updating) in Adept Packagemanager??? In Gnome-ppp or Kppp how doo I dial connection with comand???
[05:37] <dr_willis> Thers some way to 'pin' versions - but never done it.
[05:37] <dr_willis> !aptpin
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptpin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:37] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:37] <NSCAD_Nathan> dr_willis - that's fine for your situation... but I have a shared laptop, so when she wants to go facebooking there's always something for her to complain about... I'm trying to make one less thing :p
[05:37] <jhutchins> phantom_: pinning requires editing a config file.
[05:37] <dr_willis> Not sure it can be done from the gui tools.
[05:37] <Raze> Um. That command just lists some files in /usr/share/doc
[05:37] <ultm8> brb
[05:38] <jhutchins> !pin | phantom_
[05:38] <ubotu> phantom_: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[05:38] <dr_willis> "always something for her to complain about" - thats why you give her OTHER things to comlain about. :) i fuigured that out finially after 6+ yrs of marriage..
[05:38] <Raze> NickPresta That'd be nice.
 you could just not set a password for your wallet
[05:38] <dr_willis> If you totally trash the kitchen.. she dosent get too mad  when you ask her to go cook somthing. :)
[05:38] <NSCAD_Nathan> they are so smrt over in #KDE
[05:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> dr_willis - I'm just too nice I guess... maybe I should become an alchy and give her bigger things to worry about
[05:39] <dr_willis> "Porn addict" :)
[05:39] <jhutchins> Be nice if you could eliminate kwallet with a couple of mouse clicks like you can in other distros.
[05:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> at the same time releaving my own problems :p
[05:40] <dr_willis> after my wife getting her laptop trashed several times.. shes learned that its good to jump throgh the security hoops. :)
[05:41] <NSCAD_Nathan> of course it was a huge coup that I got away with replacing windows with Linux on our shared system
[05:41] <NickPresta> Raze, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/apache_conf_copy
[05:41] <Raze> Awesome, thanks :)
[05:41] <NickPresta> Raze, be sure to read through it and set it up appropriately if you have never done it before. It's important
[05:41] <TheFuzzball> I think I have a Virus
[05:42] <Arwen> OMG!
[05:42] <NickPresta> Hey Arwen.
[05:42] <Raze> Yeah
[05:42] <llutz> TheFuzzball: go visit the doctor
[05:42] <Arwen> NickPresta, yes, hello
[05:42] <NSCAD_Nathan> I'm takinig echinacea for my virus
[05:42] <NSCAD_Nathan> I recommend the tissues with aloe as well.. they are magical
[05:43] <paolo_> well: when i do cat somedev, how can i force the command in order to ignore a signal?
[05:43] <NSCAD_Nathan> now if only they would lace the tissues with MDMA... that would be worth having the flu for.. :p
[05:43] <TheFuzzball> llutz, haha, every hour or so a krdc window pops up and says someone from cmweb426.commercialmedia.com wants to connect to my computer
[05:44] <TheFuzzball> llutz, the only thing I can think of to do is remove krdc, but that would take half of KDE with it
[05:45] <loader> ROMANIA este cineva aici
[05:45] <loader> imi trebuie srocino
[05:45] <andi> has any1 ever heard of a widely spread virus for linux?
[05:45] <icecruncher> !ro | loader
[05:45] <ubotu> loader: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[05:46] <TheFuzzball> nope
[05:46] <NickPresta> TheFuzzball, krdc doesn't remove anything but krdc according to my simulation
[05:46] <TheFuzzball> but this is really starting to piss me off
[05:46] <llutz> TheFuzzball: krdc only removes kubuntu-desktop, meta-package
[05:46] <TheFuzzball> llutz, I would like to keep kubuntu-desktop thanks :)
[05:47] <TheFuzzball> llutz, and I would like to keep krdc too :)
[05:48] <TheFuzzball> llutz, and it removes kde* kdenetwork* krdc* and it says that all of the other KDE packages are no longer needed
[05:48] <loader> how mount local directory in Cedega?
[05:48] <TheFuzzball> anyway, I'm not saying it's a virus anymore, does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[05:49] <loader> pleas help me
[05:49] <llutz> TheFuzzball: only kubuntu-desktop here, odd. so block incoming rdp-connections to keep anything
[05:49] <dr_willis> yea - odd...
[05:49] <TheFuzzball> llutz, I don't know how :)
[05:49] <Arwen> TheFuzzball, it seems that you have a firewall/service related issue
[05:49] <Arwen> go shut down remote login, lol
[05:49] <llutz> TheFuzzball: (man) iptables
[05:50] <TheFuzzball> Arwen, you could be right, I think some firewall app was automatically installed
[05:51] <TheFuzzball> Arwen, I'll find out it's name and remove it
[05:51] <TheFuzzball> thanks a lot
[05:51] <Arwen> uh........
[05:51] <Arwen> lmao, that's not what I meant
[05:52] <khaije1> is there a wm for kde that supports viewports i can use while waiting for kde4?
[05:52] <Arwen> khaije1, yes, compiz
[05:52] <phantom_> I forgot where to put link to load prog on startup (beginner)
[05:54] <dr_willis> .Autostart
[05:54] <dr_willis> or was it .autostart ?
[05:54] <dr_willis> heck was it Autostart?  :)
[05:55] <dr_willis> .kde/Autostart/
[05:55] <dr_willis> Heh .   thats it!
[05:56] <IppatsuManXYZ> dr_willis: install kcontrol-autostart, if you want a gui to add programs
[05:57] <jhutchins> funny, when I ssh to my kubuntu box over vpn, and log out, ssh never returns me to the local prompt.
[05:58] <dr_willis> IppatsuManXYZ,  Been there, done that. :)
[06:00] <stexe> ciao
[06:01] <NSCAD_Nathan> when I boot up Beryl loads, but it always loads kwin as the manager, how do I change the default?
[06:01] <NSCAD_Nathan> it's annnnnnoying
[06:02] <wolferine> you have to select beryl as the window manager?
[06:02] <NSCAD_Nathan> wolferine - every time
[06:02] <wolferine> did you check the beryl settings?
[06:03] <NSCAD_Nathan> well I've looked through, but I haven't seen where to set the default WM
[06:03] <NSCAD_Nathan> I thought it would just remember last settings
[06:03] <djdarkman> does someone know how to set up and use pulseaudio properly?
[06:03] <NSCAD_Nathan> like it does for everything else I set :)
[06:03] <wolferine> hmm, I dont see it either
[06:03] <wolferine> does beryl crash perhaps?
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> it rarely crashes, but sometimes
[06:04] <wolferine> does it crash on loading?
[06:04] <wolferine> have you ever checked
[06:04] <wolferine> whats the fall back wm?
[06:04] <wolferine> does it fall to the default if it crashes?
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> KWIN is the only other choice
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> yeah
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> how would I check if it is crashing?
[06:05] <NSCAD_Nathan> it rarely crashes when I've started it manually
[06:10] <andre_> ALGUEM DO BRASIL?
[06:15] <UbuntuFeisty> EU
[06:15] <UbuntuFeisty> ubotu: PT
[06:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:16] <sumigamer> guys how do i install beryl on kubuntu. when i run apt-get beryl emerald themes, it says that the package beryl-settings has unmet dependnecies.
[06:17] <dr_willis> !beryl
[06:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:17] <dr_willis> its possible you need some extra repositories.
[06:17] <sumigamer> but how do I get them??
[06:17] <dr_willis> I will warn you.. it seems eveyr time someone comes in here asking how to install beryl. about 2 days latter theycome back asking how to UNINSTALL it.
[06:17] <dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, apt-get install beryl-manager should grab the dependencies
[06:18] <dr_willis> try a 'apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, THEN try to install beryl-manager  perhaps?
[06:18] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, in addition, the beryl-project.org wiki has great install instructions for Ubuntu
[06:18] <Bearhill> Hello, does anybody know a good resource for a linux first timer. I need to learn how to install hardware drivers
[06:19] <jhutchins> Bearhill: what hardware?
[06:19] <dr_willis> Bearhill,  your disrto makers homepage/wiki/forums
[06:19] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, what hardware drivers?
[06:19] <Bearhill> Linksys PCMCIA ethernet card
[06:19] <Bearhill> Kubunt 7.04
[06:19] <dr_willis> plug it in, load the proper module. :) should be about it.. (depending on the card)
[06:19] <sumigamer> no matter what command for beryl I use, it says that broken packages are present.....this never happened in ubuntu
[06:20] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, use synaptic or dselect to fix the unmet dependencies
[06:20] <samy> UN francais
[06:20] <Bearhill> I downloaded the "driver" from linksys. How do I install it?
[06:20] <samy> ???
[06:20] <Yorokobi> !fr | samy
[06:20] <ubotu> samy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:21] <sumigamer> Yorokobi, how do I use synaptic to resolve the dependencies??
[06:21] <samy> OK*
[06:21] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (192.168.1.150). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[06:21] <NickPresta> he computer restarts so I'm not sure how I would go about making only one interface start at boot up.
[06:22] <dr_willis> you could blacklist the modiels for the network cards you dont want to use.
[06:22] <dr_willis> you building your own router?
[06:24] <Yorokobi> NickPresta, it sounds like a default route issue. When you start up the computer (before disabling any interfaces) check the results of 'route -n'
[06:24] <NickPresta> Yorokobi, thank you. I will do that in a few minutes.
[06:24] <Bearhill> no, I'm connected directly.
[06:26] <sumigamer> how do i add beryl to the startup in kubuntu??
[06:26] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, put a symlink to beryl-manager in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:27] <dr_willis> I thought the berly stuff added a KDM entry/menu item for the user to select.
[06:27] <sumigamer> Yorokobi, I dunno how to do that.
[06:27] <Bearhill> Is there a good resource for how to install stuff in Kubuntu? I know NOTHING about linux. I'm just a guy that got frustrated with bill gates S&*t
[06:28] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - what is it you are installing?
[06:28] <NSCAD_Nathan> Does ADEPT not do the job for you?
[06:28] <Yorokobi> sumigamer,  ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager /home/cwilliams/.kde/Autostart/
[06:28] <dr_willis> Bearhill,  fire up the 'add/remove' icon yet?
[06:28] <Yorokobi> argh, subst cwilliams for your user name :)
[06:28] <dr_willis> !adept
[06:28] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:29] <dr_willis> Hard est thing to learn about packages/installing stuff in ubuntu/kubuntu - is to USE the package manager.. dont just 'download' stuff. :)
[06:29] <Bearhill> On an IBM Laptop. ethernet card, external monitor and media software
[06:29] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - it pretty much installs anything you would want automagically
[06:29] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, a more correct version:  ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manageer ~/.kde/Autostart/
[06:29] <Bearhill> What is the package mananger?
[06:29] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - think of packages like the installers for windows
[06:30] <NSCAD_Nathan> except it is automated in Kubuntu
[06:30] <dr_willis> it makes Sence in kubuntu. :)
[06:30] <NSCAD_Nathan> so there is a program that will list available packages, download and installed them
[06:30] <dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  adept :)
 adept is the Kubuntu package manager
[06:30] <Bearhill> How do I find this program>
[06:30] <dr_willis> theres the idiot-interface to adept that you get to from the 'add/remove' icon
[06:30] <NSCAD_Nathan> dr_willis - yis, as I mentioned already.  I was just trying to simplify for Bearhill
[06:31] <dr_willis> Look in the menus?
[06:31] <Bearhill> He He I founf it...THanks:)
[06:31] <dr_willis> Add/remove Programs - for simple interface,    , system -> adept manager for the advanced form
[06:31] <dr_willis> or install synaptc ifya want
[06:32] <dr_willis> thats the gnome version of adept. (i perfer it)
[06:32] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - good luck :)  I used the advanced form right from the get go as a newbie.
[06:32] <NSCAD_Nathan> I prefer Adept :p
[06:32] <Sanne> Bearhill: I also recommend the Kubuntu Desktop Guide you should find in the menu under Help (if it's still there in Kubuntu Feisty... I'm on an older version).
[06:32] <Bearhill> That's how I found Konversation
[06:33] <Bearhill> I already love Linux!!!
[06:33] <enry> hi
[06:33] <dr_willis> Marry it then~!
[06:33] <dr_willis> :)
[06:33] <Bearhill> HaHa
[06:33] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - are you running a liveCD or did you just install?
[06:33] <Bearhill> install
[06:33] <NSCAD_Nathan> ballsy :)
[06:33] <Bearhill> My PC was crippled by a virus
[06:34] <NSCAD_Nathan> pretty low chance of that happening with kubuntu... though it could be crippled by other things, mostly related to user error :p
[06:34] <level1> my compy hasn't been suspending correctly.  Most of the time it works beautifully, but sometimes it does kinda a failed suspend, where the fans and usb devices turn off, but the processor is still running... I'm worried that its going to damage my processor (overheating)
[06:34] <Bearhill> error :p??
[06:35] <level1> Bearhill: well, its easier to screw up than you think... plus, theres some persistant bugs that get annoying
[06:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> did the ":p" throw you off?
[06:36] <Bearhill> uh...yes...I'm still Linux Illiterate
[06:36] <NSCAD_Nathan> that's an emoticon...
[06:36] <NSCAD_Nathan> akin to :)
[06:36] <level1> But, whats wrong with my computer?  It works most of the time!
[06:36] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, ':' are eyes, 'p' is a mouth with the tongue out
[06:36] <Bearhill> How do I install my Linksys ethernet adapter. The computer sees is, but how do I get it to see the wireless network(s)
[06:37] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - Here's where those " :)
[06:38] <NSCAD_Nathan> "other things" start to crop up
[06:38] <sumigamer> guys how do I change that K icon of the K menu??
[06:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> replace the kmenu icon in the iconset you are using
[06:39] <sumigamer> i dont get it....
[06:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> with a new .png file
[06:39] <sumigamer> i still dont get it....
[06:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> google it
[06:39] <level1> Bearhill: Ideally, linux runs very well, and on ideal hardware it's great, but in the real world, hardware is most of the problem... but of course, a serious linux hacker will argue back....
[06:40] <sumigamer> come on, tell me how to do this
[06:40] <NSCAD_Nathan> level1 - yeah but who wants to become a serious linux hacker?
[06:40] <level1> "Linux has the best hardware support in the world" which is actually true...
[06:40] <level1> NSCAD_Nathan: I do a little
[06:40] <NSCAD_Nathan> I just worry about attracting too many babes if I became one
[06:40] <NSCAD_Nathan> :p
[06:40] <Bearhill> Ok...I downloaded the Linux "driver" for my card. How do I use the software now?
[06:41] <llutz> sumigamer: change /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/...../apps/kmenu.png  into yours
[06:42] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, is the card plugged into the PCMCIA slot right now?
[06:43] <Bearhill> yes
[06:43] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, are the LEDs lit/blinking?
[06:43] <Bearhill> Power is on an Link is blinking
[06:44] <sumigamer> llutz, does it have to be the same size??
[06:44] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, run 'lspci | grep -i linksys' from the commandline. It should spit out the card
[06:45] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, ... the card info that is, not physically eject the card :)
[06:45] <llutz> sumigamer: would look nicer, i think
[06:46] <jhutchins> Bearhill: If you've got a link light, try ifconfig - it should list the card.
[06:50] <Bearhill> sorry, I assum the command line is "run command" in the K menu? And i just type ifconfig
[06:51] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, K > System > Konsole, then the commands
[06:52] <Bearhill> thx
[06:53] <sumigamer> guys i cannot copy the icon  to that directory, it says access denied
[06:54] <jhutchins> Bearhill: Yeah, 'cause you'll need to have the console to display the output of the command.
[06:54] <jhutchins> Bearhill: Oh yeah, and with any system-level command, you'll need to use sudo - so sudo ifconfig in a console.
[06:55] <Bearhill> I type  "-so sudo ifconfig"  ??
[06:55] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, 'sudo ifconfig'
[06:56] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, then your password when it asks for it
[06:56] <Bearhill> bingo
[06:57] <khaije1> anybody have preferences for good music 'tracker' software avail w/ ubuntu?
[06:57] <Bearhill> it brings up a bunch of ethernet stuff. nothing that says linksys
[06:57] <jhutchins> khaije1: amarok?
[06:58] <Sanne> khaije1: to make music?
[06:58] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, how about wifi0/ath0 (anything other than lo0 & eth0)
[06:58] <sumigamer> guys how do i install a new theme in kubuntu??
[06:58] <jhutchins> Bearhill: Right, the linksys will be eth0 or eth1 or something.
[06:58] <jhutchins> !theme | sumigamer
[06:58] <ubotu> sumigamer: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:58] <khaije1> Sanne: ya, something along the lines of fruityloops maybe, not necessarily as comprehensive as rosegarden, ut still fun to use
[06:59] <sumigamer> yeah but how do i install it??
[06:59] <jhutchins> !changethemes | sumigamer
[06:59] <ubotu> sumigamer: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[06:59] <jhutchins> sumigamer: second url.
[07:00] <Bearhill> nothing that says wifi
[07:01] <Sanne> khaije1: there's a general shortage on sequencer software with modular synths, but there's the venerable soundtracker (just samples though), and a new one called aldrin, aims to be a buzz clone (http://trac.zeitherrschaft.org/aldrin/). There's also EnergyXT 2, now on Linux, but it's closed software, still nice and not very expensive: http://www.energy-xt.com/
[07:02] <Sanne> khaije1: maybe also ask in #ubuntustudio (channel for custom multimedia ubuntu distro)
[07:02] <khaije1> Sanne: holy cow aldrin looks fscking sweet!
[07:02] <Sanne> khaije1: yes, it does :)
[07:03] <steffen> How to install a ident server? i have tryed meny times, but i dont get it to work :( help?
[07:03] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, does 'lspci | grep -i lynksys' return anything?
[07:03] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, correction: 'lspci | grep -i linksys'
[07:03] <Sanne> khaije1: there's also #lad channel, where linux audio community meets.
[07:04] <Bearhill> no
[07:05] <khaije1> Sanne: man, i love that so many projects are embracing ubuntu in their default package offerings
[07:05] <Arwen> what's the point of a lowlatency/realtime kernel? should I use it instead of the generic one?
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> Arwen: not on a desktop
[07:06] <khaije1> Sanne: one more question, I need something like Audacity, should i just get that or is there something better that i've missed?
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> it's mostly useful in industry
[07:06] <rodrigo_> hello guys
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> because it makes the system very responsive - which is handy if said system is running heavy machinery
[07:06] <thomax__> sup rodrigo_
[07:07] <rodrigo_> any one of you knows how to install windows if you have only installed kubuntu
[07:07] <rodrigo_> I saw something about partitions
[07:07] <thomax__> use virtualbox
[07:07] <thomax__> !google virtualbox
[07:07] <rodrigo_> but I'm not quite sure, I believe I have only one partition
[07:07] <rodrigo_> !google virtualbox?
[07:07] <thomax__> you could shrink it
[07:07] <Sanne> khaije1: for a nice general purpose audio editor, I think you can't go wrong with Audacity. For a full fledged audio multitrack editor you could also take a look at ... I can't believe that the name just escapes me... wait, it'll come to me in a sec...
[07:08] <Sanne> khaije1: Ardour
[07:08] <thomax__> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[07:08] <thomax__> rodrigo_: read that
[07:08] <rodrigo_> thomax: thanks
[07:08] <khaije1> Sanne: i'll check it out, thx v much
[07:08] <Sanne> khaije1: you're welcome, good luck :)
[07:10] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, what is the model of linksys card you're using?
[07:11] <jhutchins> Arwen: Also useful for multimedia.
[07:11] <Arwen> jhutchins, hmm? playback or editing?
[07:11] <Arwen> and more importantly, what does it do?
[07:12] <jhutchins> Arwen: Can help with playback, allows the playback application to grab sufficient cycles to avoid skips.  Can be helpful in capture as well, anything where hesitation would cause a glitch.
[07:12] <Arwen> ah, so what are the negative aspects? will it reduce performance or reliability?
[07:13] <jhutchins> Arwen: It allows the privileged app to hog cycles, preventing multi-task efficiency.
[07:14] <jhutchins> Arwen: Not so good for say multiuser machines.
[07:14] <Arwen> jhutchins, ah
[07:14] <jhutchins> Arwen: Often used in embedded apps, where the system really has only one purpose.
[07:14] <Arwen> jhutchins, how does it work? do I have to set a process to have realtime priority?
[07:15] <jhutchins> Arwen: There are a number of things you can tune, setting things in /proc/cpu, something like that.
[07:15] <jhutchins> Arwen: Fuzzy on the details, I work from docs when I do stuff like that.
[07:15] <Arwen> ah
[07:17] <rodrigo_> thomax__: how do I install it?
[07:17] <jhutchins> Arwen: More than one way to handle it, the multimedia kernel is just one.
[07:17] <rodrigo_> I can't find it in the menu
[07:18] <Arwen> hmm
[07:18] <Bearhill> sorry....wpc11
[07:18] <CyD> Arwen, :)
[07:19] <CyD> ubuntu christian edition was made by god. intelligent design
[07:19] <Arwen> lmao
[07:19] <llutz> CyD: but: linux is evolution, not intelligent design :)
[07:20] <CyD> :D
[07:22] <Arwen> feature request: can't the installer fetch and update Ubuntu during installation?
[07:22] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/26/support-for-broadcom-wireless-ubuntu-6061-610/
[07:23] <Bearhill> thx
[07:24] <morrison> hello boys
[07:24] <bullet> kubunters
[07:24] <bullet> wassup
[07:24] <morrison> I have a problem with nVdia Driver
[07:24] <bullet> its my first time with Konversation
[07:25] <bullet> what's ur problem dude
[07:25] <G104cch1n0> hello all
[07:25] <G104cch1n0> I have a question
[07:25] <G104cch1n0> I have creative web cam go
[07:26] <morrison> sis_agp                 9604  1
[07:26] <morrison> agpgart                35400  2 nvidia,sis_agp
[07:26] <G104cch1n0> but I don't have found a webcam tool for kde...
[07:26] <morrison> there is a customer who can help me?
[07:27] <G104cch1n0> exist a kde webcam tool ?
[07:27] <G104cch1n0> because if I use camorama  I must install all gnome library...
[07:27] <G104cch1n0> and camorama not work fine with my webcam..
[07:28] <G104cch1n0> I see bouble image and gry scale!
[07:28] <G104cch1n0> *I see double image and gry scale!
[07:30] <G104cch1n0> !webcam
[07:30] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:33] <sess> any advice on the best way to track down the cause of the lockup when I try to suspend my laptop?  I've tried both uswsusp and the default kernel suspend tools, but the laptop freezes mid suspend and locks up
[07:34] <BluesKaj> !suspend
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <BluesKaj> !hibernate
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <brendon> Does anybody know how to control the mouse cursor from the keyboard
[08:03] <brendon> ?
[08:04] <jhutchins> brendon: I know there's something in the accessibility stuff that will allow that.
[08:05] <brendon> You know, its the kind of thing you only need to do once in a great while, and by then you've forgotten how...
[08:05] <brendon> And you bump into a machine without a working mouse!
[08:06] <fyrmedic> Is there a way to set the order in which knetworkmanager accesses wireless routers? Currently it connects automatically to my neighbors router instead of mine so I have to manually change it every time.
[08:07] <brendon> fyrmedic: Have you thought of justusing the /etc/network/interfaces file and not using knetworkmanager?
[08:08] <fyrmedic> brendon; no that is why I am asking. Will that limit me when I am away from home though?
[08:11] <brendon> I've given up on the gui wireless stuff and just stuck it into that file.  I also have a little script that chooses which to use based on access point
[08:13] <brendon> look at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27718/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27719/
[08:13] <yonkeltron_> anyone have any luck with the linksys wmp54g
[08:14] <ubuntu> you tryin to set up the linksys?
[08:14] <brendon> The one is what goes into the interfaces file, modified of course and the other is the mapping script, which you can put anywhere you like.
[08:14] <yonkeltron_> ubuntu: wondering about buying
[08:14] <ubuntu> ah
[08:15] <yonkeltron_> ubuntu: yeah... any ideas?
[08:15] <ubuntu> yonkeltron i dont know, Ive only worked with netgear routers
[08:15] <brendon> What are you going to connect to it?  I think I have one, but they have so many models now
[08:15] <rustalot> where are the kde libraries?
[08:16] <Arwen> /usr/lib ?
[08:17] <yonkeltron_> brendon: i want to throw the Linksys WMP54G wifi card into a pci slot on a desktop
[08:17] <brendon> Sorry, I thought you were giving the router model :)
[08:19] <b3rt> hey
[08:19] <jars> keiner da :D
[08:20] <b3rt> good evening
[08:20] <jars> american?
[08:20] <b3rt> could anyone tell me where to put a firmware .fw on feisty?
[08:20] <yonkeltron_> jars: a bissel...
[08:20] <b3rt> hotplug doesnt exist
[08:20] <yonkeltron_> b3rt: what kind? for a broadcom or something?
[08:21] <jarn> In SuperKaramba I apparently have to put two of the widgets on my desktop before it shows up.
[08:28] <N9NU> i looked through the online docs and cannot find howto enable my 2nd network adapter to allow for internet connection sharing (gateway)
[08:28] <yeniklasor> I'm trying to delete my pictures under the home directory. sudo rm -rf /home/yeniklasor/*.jpg  But shell says "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Argument list too long"  How can I fix it?
[08:34] <brendon> N9NU: I'm not sure I exactly understand your problem, but it sounds like you want to create a bridge and do NAT?
[08:34] <N9NU> yes
[08:34] <N9NU> i have 4 other pcs and want to use this one as a gateway/router
[08:34] <N9NU> to enable internet on the others
[08:34] <llutz> N9NU: google for ip-forwarding, masquerading
[08:35] <N9NU> copy that
[08:35] <brendon> Ok, then have a look at the firewall software.
[08:35] <N9NU> i dont have a router though
[08:35] <N9NU> this pc will act as that
[08:35] <llutz> N9NU: it's easy, maybe use dnsmasq too for dhcp/dns
[08:35] <brendon> Try shorewall.  It will let you exactly control how it works plus act as a firewall!
[08:35] <N9NU> ok . will check all that out
[08:36] <N9NU> yeah thats what i was thinking
[08:36] <N9NU> the other ? i have is, how do I download sources...like kernel-source, etc
[08:36] <brendon> Shorewall is fairly easy to configure, etc.
[08:37] <N9NU> the package installer didnt give me any of those options under "Development"
[08:37] <Mez> anyone know a good program to convert my downloaded .avi's to a DVD format?
[08:37] <brendon> Try something like adept Manager
[08:37] <N9NU> ok will try that
[08:37] <llutz> Mez: mencoder
[08:38] <N9NU> im just used to another distro and using the CLI to do everything
[08:38] <brendon> I still use the command line for loads of stuff
[08:38] <N9NU> yeah..i love it
[08:38] <brendon> sometimes it's just much quicker
[08:39] <N9NU> yep
[08:39] <brendon> No reason to change!
[08:39] <N9NU> and i need to find pico
[08:39] <Mez> llutz, thats just a PITA to use tho
[08:39] <N9NU> heh
[08:39] <N9NU> i been using linux since 93
[08:39] <khaije1> AW SHIZZLE!
[08:39] <N9NU> so the CLI is my best friend
[08:40] <llutz> N9NU: use nano, a pico-clone ;)
[08:40] <brendon> I fear the magic that some gui's do to the system!
[08:40] <khaije1> i think the nvidia update just un-broke (re-fixed) my neverwinter install !?!?!
[08:40] <N9NU> yeah thats good also
[08:41] <N9NU> ok i got adept-manger........now were talkin
[08:42] <llutz> N9NU: if you prefer cli: aptitude, apt-get, apt-cache  for package-management are easy and powerful
[08:42] <enry> goodbye
[08:42] <N9NU> apt-get i used in Mandriva, so that on i do know
[08:43] <llutz> N9NU: they know why they implemented it for rpm too :)
[08:43] <N9NU> i dont mind the GUI
[08:43] <N9NU> heh
[08:43] <llutz> cli is more powerfull (imho)
[08:43] <N9NU> agreed
[08:44] <N9NU> ah there we go...its downloading the sources now
[08:44] <khaije1> how can i get changelog info on debs ?
[08:44] <KaMo> hello guys
[08:44] <N9NU> hi
[08:44] <KaMo> I'm trying to rub ububto on my server and it is driving me crazy
[08:45] <KaMo> somebody here to help?
[08:45] <KaMo> ubunto**
[08:45] <ben_t> Everyone's helpful.
[08:45] <KaMo> nice
[08:45] <N9NU> i think we are in the same boat
[08:45] <N9NU> im setting up servers via kubuntu
[08:46] <KaMo> the thing is that once the server is started there get stock on "loading /etc/rc.local/"
[08:46] <KaMo> after that somebody need to hit enter in order to finish the start up
[08:47] <KaMo> do you guys have idea what's going on?
[08:47] <N9NU> the only option i have in rc.local is "ecit 0"
[08:47] <N9NU> exit 0
[08:47] <KaMo> yes
[08:47] <KaMo> I even changed the name of rc.local
[08:48] <N9NU> i just realized i dont have bash-completion installed
[08:48] <N9NU> thats a must
[08:48] <KaMo> and now it get stock after loading eth1
[08:48] <N9NU> one way i get around that is to setup static IP's
[08:48] <KaMo> I did it already
[08:48] <N9NU> unless you have DHCP from your ISP
[08:48] <ben_t> ... wow, someone has cleared out all of my nicks I usually use.
[08:49] <KaMo> is needed for the server
[08:50] <N9NU> do you look in /etc/network
[08:50] <N9NU> did
[08:50] <ben_t> Hmm, was looking at this, could help.
[08:50] <ben_t> http://docs.planetargon.com/Server_Reboots
[08:51] <KaMo> looking
[08:52] <rodrigo_> hey guys can you help to install this file?
[08:52] <N9NU> they even have ham radio apps.......very nice
[08:52] <KaMo> yep
[08:52] <rodrigo_> I have kubunut
[08:52] <vzduch> ben_t: were you registered?
[08:53] <ed__> does anyone here have experiencing setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server?
[08:53] <rodrigo_> kubuntu and its vitual box I have download it from here http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[08:53] <ben_t> vzduch: nope, just nicks I usually like to use are allready taken.
[08:53] <ed__> please help
[08:53] <rodrigo_> how do I install it do I have to extract the files to another folder?
[08:54] <llutz> rodrigo_: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:54] <vzduch> ben_t: then there's no reason to complain ;)
[08:55] <llutz> rodrigo_: where package.deb is the path/file you've downloaded
[08:55] <rodrigo_> llutz: I don't need to extract it do I?
[08:55] <rodrigo_> in home
[08:55] <llutz> rodrigo_: if you download the .deb, no
[08:55] <ben_t> vzduch: I guess,but, meh.
[08:55] <ben_t> ed:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97277&highlight=freenx
[08:55] <vzduch> wait for your favourite nick to be unoccupied & register
[08:55] <ben_t> freenx will work just like the regular, except it is more documented.
[08:56] <rodrigo_> llutz: it's in home, so I just paste the command you give in the console?
[08:56] <llutz> rodrigo_: yes, just replace the filename
[08:56] <rodrigo_> llutz: the file name?
[08:57] <llutz> rodrigo_: sudo dpkg -i virtualbox_1.4.0-21864_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb
[08:57] <rodrigo_> sudo dpkg -i package.deb= virtualbox_1.4.0-21864_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb
[08:58] <rodrigo_> always is like that the installation when you download it?
[08:58] <rodrigo_> llutz: Im used to use the  adapt installer
[08:58] <llutz> rodrigo_: afaik adept cannot install .deb files
[08:59] <rodrigo_> ohh I see
[08:59] <rodrigo_> llutz: so when I download files to intall the magic worlds are?
[09:00] <llutz> rodrigo_: sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[09:00] <rodrigo_> llutz:sudo dpkg -i
[09:00] <rodrigo_> with that sintaxis
[09:00] <llutz> rodrigo_: "man dpkg" tells you more
[09:01] <rodrigo_> llutz: I always get frustrated with spaces and lines and that things
[09:01] <rodrigo_> llutz: lol
[09:01] <rodrigo_> llutz: thanks llutz I'll try it now
[09:02] <llutz> rodrigo_: konqueror -> right-click on the file -> Kubuntu package menu -> install
[09:02] <llutz> rodrigo_: should work for mouseclickers
[09:02] <rodrigo_> hahaha
[09:05] <mpdr> i need some help on partitioning my drive
[09:05] <N9NU> i decided to select the KDE 4 packages for kix, will this be installed in a seperate folder
[09:05] <mpdr> which one would anyone suggest: automatic or manuallt
[09:05] <ben_t> Manual unless you really like linux.
[09:05] <N9NU> i am running the devel version of kubuntu
[09:05] <mpdr> manually*
[09:05] <rodrigo_> any one of you use virtual box?
[09:06] <mpdr> i already installed windows
[09:06] <mpdr> i hav 75.55gb free
[09:07] <mpdr> do i just create the second partition free
[09:07] <sn00py> hi! how can u change the bootscreen of kubuntu 7.04 ? i mean that screen where you see the progress balk, like under windows xp
[09:07] <sn00py> i've heared that it's merged with the kernel? so is it possible or not?
[09:08] <Arwen> why would you want to see the progress balk?
[09:08] <N9NU> i always like to see verbose
[09:08] <N9NU> but it wont let me press "esc" to get there
[09:08] <BluesKaj> mpdr, how much room do you want to give over to Kubuntu
[09:09] <rodrigo_> any one of you use virtual box?
[09:09] <llutz> if all works, i prefer to see nothing
[09:09] <Arwen> N9NU, so go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the "splash" option
[09:09] <jhutchins>                  sn00py: I think you can edit your grub menu.list file to turn off the splash screen.
[09:10] <jhutchins> sn00py: There's also settings for it in kcontrol.
[09:11] <N9NU> ok....same as others
[09:11] <N9NU> kewl
[09:11] <mpdr> i want 74.22 free
[09:11] <mpdr> for linux*
[09:11] <BluesKaj> mpdr, for Kubuntu ?
[09:11] <mpdr> yea
[09:12] <mpdr> im tryin to prepare my partitions now, i just want to know wat to do next
[09:12] <mpdr> so i dont mess nuttin up
[09:12] <BluesKaj> mpdr, then choose the guided partioning option
[09:13] <BluesKaj> err partitioning
[09:13] <jhutchins> mpdr: You only need about 5 or 6g max for linux.  You can format the rest as a storage area accessible by both systems using vfat.
[09:13] <mike-kubuntu> i accidently stopped the tray icon that checks for updates when you first log in from starting, does anyone know how to get it back on the list of startup apps?
[09:13] <rodrigo_> hello any one using virtual box and kubuntu?
[09:13] <BluesKaj> yes  mpdr , then you have some conytrol over the size and placement
[09:14] <ed__> please help!
[09:14] <mth`MAW> Hi there, I am looking for a propper reference for kommander. Does anybody knows anything?
[09:14] <ed__> does anyone have experience setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server?
[09:14] <mpdr> cant i just put use the largest continuous free space??
[09:14] <BluesKaj> !repeat | rod
[09:14] <ubotu> rod: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:15] <voicu> hi, where is the flash player installed?
[09:15] <ed__> does anyone have experience setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server?
[09:15] <voicu> i mean for konqueror. it works on the main user and not on others
[09:16] <Arwen> voicu, /usr/lib ?
[09:16] <Arwen> or maybe /home
[09:16] <llutz> voicu: dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree      tells you
[09:16] <voicu> hmm, apparently it's not installed :P
[09:16] <mpdr> blueskaj: cant i just put use the largest continuous free space?
[09:17] <llutz> !repeat |ed
[09:17] <ubotu> ed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:17] <BluesKaj> mpdr, if you wish
[09:17] <ferron> where can i go to get information on building a supercompuer
[09:17] <Arwen> anyone know if there's a way to make the installer automatically update during installation?
[09:17] <ed__> if somone would answer me I wouldn't repeat, even a single "I don't know" is acceptable, is that so hard? :)
[09:17] <brendon> voicu: which konqueror
[09:17] <ferron> home brewed supercomputer
[09:17] <voicu> brendon: 3.5.6
[09:17] <mpdr> blueskaj: would it mess up my windows installation??
[09:17] <ben_t> Uh, ed__,didya check out freenx, it has a howto.
[09:17] <llutz> ed__: you expect 377 times: i don't know?
[09:18] <mpdr> blueskaj: i just want to be sure
[09:18] <N9NU> that blue whatever supercomputer came here to argonne natl labs in Illinois the other day
[09:18] <brendon> voicu: No the command "which konqueror" at the command line will tell you which one is being found from path.
[09:18] <BluesKaj> mpdr, that's why i suggested the guided partitioning option
[09:18] <ed__> this is for a biz deployment and I have been specifcally assigned not to use freenx so thjat unfortunately is not an option
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> Blue Gene?
[09:19] <ed__> but thanks for the suggestion
[09:19] <ben_t> ed__: aww, I'll go look around some more.
[09:19] <brendon> ed__: Your understanding of how this works is faulty.  There are possibly 376 people who don't know and 1 that does.  Who should respond first?
[09:20] <voicu> brendon: thanks but i managed it. i didn't know there was a flash package. also didn't know there was flash 9 on linux :D
[09:20] <ed__> the specific issue is the foilloiwng...
[09:20] <ed__> Jun 29 09:52:54 localhost NXNODE-3.0.0-71[5821] : ERROR: Error when monitoring session: Could not open default font 'fixed' 'NXSessionMonitor::__setSessionStatus'
[09:20] <ed__> *following
[09:20] <mpdr> blueskaj: guided partitioning option?? where would that option be??
[09:20] <llutz> ferron: openmosix and a lot of money will help to build a supercomputer
[09:20] <voicu> this is a happy day :P
[09:20] <N9NU> Blue Gene
[09:20] <N9NU> yeah that sounds right
[09:20] <ed__> where is default font "fixed"?
[09:20] <BluesKaj> mpdr, I sassume you're on the live cd ?
[09:20] <ben_t> ed__:  I'm guessing you peeked at http://happybeggar.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=2
[09:21] <Arwen> indeed, this is a happy day since it's the day I'm switching back to Windows :-)
[09:21] <BluesKaj> err assume
[09:21] <ben_t> NX has some dependencies,try installing those.
[09:21] <ben_t>  Terminal: sudo apt-get install openssh-server libxcomp1 libxcompext1
[09:21] <ed__> yes I've done that, it can't find the fixed font though...
[09:21] <N9NU> is there a defferent name that this distro uses instead of "kernel-source"
[09:21] <ed__> the only issue appears to be the fixed font, where is it? :(
[09:21] <mpdr> blueskaj: yea, so i would hav to restart again
[09:21] <N9NU> its not listed in the source respository
[09:22] <ferron> i want to build a windows and linux cluster to render some animations
[09:22] <ed__> again the error is Jun 29 09:52:54 localhost NXNODE-3.0.0-71[5821] : ERROR: Error when monitoring session: Could not open default font 'fixed' 'NXSessionMonitor::__setSessionStatus'
[09:22] <jhutchins> ed__: In kcontrol, fonts, it'll show you what fonts are installed for what class.
[09:22] <ferron> i want to cluster all my old computers
[09:22] <BluesKaj> restart the install , mpdr?
[09:22] <jhutchins> ed__: Labels like "fixed" and "sans" select a generic family; the font configuration has a list of preferences for each family.
[09:23] <mpdr> blueskaj: yes
[09:23] <mpdr> blueskaj:?
[09:24] <BluesKaj> mpdr, what part of the install process are yoiu at now ?
[09:24] <coreymon77> hey guys
[09:24] <ed__> oh...I'd prefer using terminal to edit/view the font config, where is the font config file?
[09:24] <ed__> thanks :)
[09:24] <mpdr> blueskaj: prepare partitions part, im at manually
[09:24] <llutz> N9NU: linux-source
[09:24] <BluesKaj> hi coreymon77
[09:24] <brendon> ferron: You want beuwulf?
[09:24] <N9NU> linux-source
[09:24] <N9NU> ok
[09:24] <brendon> ferron: You want beowulf?
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> hey coreymon77
[09:25] <BluesKaj> well then go ahead, it's quite easy to do , mpdr
[09:25] <ferron> what's beowulf???
[09:25] <brendon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_%28computing%29
[09:25] <llutz> ferron: cluster-software like openmosix
[09:25] <ferron> can it be built at home
[09:25] <BluesKaj> maunuall partitioning is best in my view , mpdr
[09:25] <ed__> where is the font config file?
[09:26] <brendon> yes, you can build a cluster... that is the easy part
[09:26] <TeraDyne> Lappy asplode. I just wish I knew why my laptop crashes hard when I'm compiling something large...
[09:26] <brendon> ed__: Go and google!
[09:26] <BluesKaj> if yer gonna run linux , learning how to partition is important , mpdr
[09:26] <ferron> does it support task sharing ???
[09:27] <brendon> ferron: The hard part of a cluster is the software to use it.  What do you want to use it for?
[09:27] <tikiki> who inside this channel says google is your friend??
[09:27] <BluesKaj> google-linux does
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> !google
[09:27] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> the bot says so
[09:27] <ferron> i want to use for rendering
[09:27] <llutz> tikiki: if google is your friend you don't need enemies
[09:27] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, :)
[09:27] <ferron> i have blender 3d
[09:27] <ben_t> IF yahoo is your friend, you need some money.
[09:28] <ferron> and i am creating some animations
[09:28] <brendon> Ok, then you need to make sure your rendering software supports clustering
[09:28] <BluesKaj> opr er misguided
[09:28] <ferron> ok
[09:28] <brendon> and more importantly what clustering.
[09:28] <tikiki> im going to bash this one
[09:28] <brendon> Some programs can ad-hoc cluster, i.e. start a server on each machine and it just works
[09:28] <ferron> can it help in password hacking ???
[09:28] <brendon> Others require a lot of work to set up.
[09:29] <coreymon77> guys
[09:29] <N9NU> and the other one i could not find is "bash-completion" which is essential
[09:29] <coreymon77> how do you get something into the repos
[09:29] <coreymon77> or how do you get something into a repo for apt
[09:29] <mpdr> blueskaj: yes i agree, but im still not so clear on wat i hav to do
[09:29] <brendon> Clustering 101: how do you split the work up.  Do you need to communicate between bits and if so, how?
[09:30] <vzduch> hmm.. my K3b complains about not finding an MP3 decoder module.. libmad0 and lame are installed
[09:30] <llutz> vzduch: libk3b2-mp3
[09:30] <mpdr> blueskaj: would i hav to create an partition, if so wat type?
[09:31] <vzduch> ah, there we go.. thx llutz
[09:31] <vzduch> :)
[09:31] <brendon> ed__: To help you out.  Font paths start in xorg.conf
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: you mean the ubuntu managed repositories?
[09:31] <N9NU> disregard
[09:31] <BluesKaj> mpdr, it will ask you what size partition for kubuntu  , you will also need a swap , make it the same size up to 2gig
[09:32] <tobias86> hi
[09:32] <tobias86> :D
[09:32] <tikiki> hey bot u rock!
[09:32] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: the podcatching program called icepodder (the continuation program of the i/castpodder program) wants to get into an apt repository
[09:32] <BluesKaj> same size as your Memory
[09:32] <tobias86> im new on kubuntu.. :D
[09:32] <tobias86> so..
[09:32] <tobias86> i e got a quest,
[09:32] <tikiki> sure
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: try seveas
[09:32] <tobias86> how can i configure WLAN
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: he sometimes includes new apps and stuff
[09:32] <tobias86> ?
[09:33] <tikiki> go to system settings
[09:33] <brendon> Oh so many ways....:)
[09:33] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: is he online?
[09:33] <tobias86> its a LAPtOP with a PCMCI Card. from Belkin
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: not here, try #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu
[09:33] <tobias86> and i u think.. i ve to install a driver noo? :D
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: or if its a kde program, you can suggest it to the kubuntu devs
[09:34] <tobias86> if not. can i do it with the console?
[09:34] <tobias86> can me help somebody?
[09:34] <tobias86> :D
[09:35] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: its a podcatcher program, no particular desktop environment
[09:35] <tobias86> hmmmmmmmmmm
[09:35] <tobias86> ?????????
[09:35] <tobias86> :D
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: file a wishlist/bug request
[09:35] <brendon> Yes tobias86 you can do it from teh command line.
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> tobias86: what is the cipset, do you know?
[09:35] <brendon> step one, make sure you got the right device drivers, etc
[09:36] <tobias86> hmm.. i search it on google
[09:36] <brendon> Setep two, configure /etc/network/interfaces to connect to the AP
[09:36] <tobias86> just one problem.. i didnt found one.. :D
[09:36] <tobias86> just 4 windows.. .d
[09:36] <brendon> What did you search for?
[09:37] <tobias86> Belikin F5D7010
[09:37] <Arwen> hah, belkin
[09:37] <tobias86> yeah
[09:37] <Arwen> those things have like 20 revisions with the same name, all of which are incompatible :-\
[09:37] <BluesKaj> tobias86, try  http://google.com/linux
[09:38] <brendon> tobias86:  If you didn't get the install (or similar) to do it you need to know a fair amount of command line tools, or at least follow an online guide
[09:38] <brendon> are you sure it is not already set up?
[09:39] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: where would you file this
[09:39] <brendon> do a "man lspci" and then use lspci to see if the device is recognised
[09:39] <tobias86> hm i see it in the network settings.. but its down..
[09:39] <tobias86> inactiv..
[09:39] <llutz> tobias86: does "iwconfig" list the wlan-device?
[09:39] <brendon> If it shows up in networking, then it must have a driver, and is recognised
[09:39] <tobias86> yepp
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: launchpad
[09:40] <llutz> tobias86: sudo ifconfig <wlan-device> up
[09:40] <coreymon77> llutz: need some help, im typically good wiht wifi
[09:40] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: where in launchpad?
[09:40] <tobias86> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[09:40] <tobias86>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[09:40] <tobias86>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[09:40] <tobias86>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[09:40] <tobias86>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[09:40] <tobias86>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[09:40] <llutz> !paste| tobias86
[09:40] <ubotu> tobias86: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | tobias86
[09:41] <brendon> Sounds like you got it working.
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: good question... go to #ubuntu-motu and ask there
[09:41] <BluesKaj> oops
[09:41] <llutz> tobias86: WEP or WPA
[09:41] <brendon> You need to configure it to connect to an access point
[09:41] <llutz>  ?
[09:41] <tobias86> WEP
[09:41] <tobias86>  :D
[09:41] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 mode managed
[09:41] <nathan> anyone know the linux equvilent of Win-TV?
[09:41] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 enc open
[09:42] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 key 1a2b3c4d....
[09:42] <BluesKaj> nathan, what's wintv
[09:42] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <your-ssid>
[09:42] <llutz> tobias86: sudo dhclient eth1
[09:42] <VSpike> I keep getting a problem where the fonts in all my GTK apps suddenly get a lot smaller - has anyone else seen this or know how to fix it?
[09:42] <brendon> tobias86: Or just put all that muck in the /etc/network/interfaces file, after a quick man check for the format
[09:42] <nathan> windows TV - TV card software
[09:43] <llutz> brendon: he should do so after successfull test :)
[09:43] <BluesKaj> nathan, try tvtime
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> nathan: hows it going?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> !tvtime | Nathan
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <tobias86> hm but the LED on my card re down.. :(
[09:43] <nathan> ill search on adept / others for it
[09:43] <VSpike> I dunno, maybe it's all fonts in fact - it's hard to tell
[09:43] <bballin> i need an offtopic room please
[09:44] <tobias86> on windows they worked..
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> nathan: what are you trying to get?
[09:44] <tobias86> strange
[09:44] <alberto> alguien que hable espaol
[09:44] <brendon> llutz: but if he puts it in the file, then he can try many times quickly!
[09:44] <nathan> software for TV card
[09:44] <nathan> hey nos
[09:44] <TeraDyne> bballin: #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <llutz> brendon: bash-history is similar quick :)
[09:44] <nathan> alright mate you? Still not got DVD player working yet but ill get there
[09:44] <llutz> brendon: everyone has it's own way, sry
[09:44] <nathan> projectors working great :)
[09:44] <BluesKaj> nathan, which tv card ?
[09:44] <brendon> llutz: each his own poison :)
[09:44] <nathan> ahahaha.. thats a good question
[09:45] <nathan> unfortunately i dont know the ansewr cause im a bugger for keeping my books and boxes
[09:45] <BluesKaj> lspci might tell you
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin lspci
[09:46] <BluesKaj> nathan, we have to know the tv tuner card chipset in order to recommend drivers
[09:47] <nathan> 1 sec ill do what nosred said
[09:47] <nathan> !pastebin
[09:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:48] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27826/
[09:48] <khaije1> !module-assistant
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> nathan ^^^
[09:50] <nathan> hi
[09:50] <nathan> sorry
[09:50] <nathan> ermm pretty sure its not phillips? but i dunno
[09:51] <nathan> jus came as winTV + card lol..
[09:51] <nathan> 1 min ill av a look
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> its a Philips chip which is all that matters
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go
[09:52] <ed__> hey, you know what would be a good idea?
[09:52] <root__> hi
[09:52] <nathan> ok so phillips chip
[09:52] <fabio> ciao
[09:52] <ed__> If there was a unified way for irc servers to log chat sessions and then archive them online mailing list style since these chats do contain plenty of good info...
[09:52] <ed__> hmm....
[09:52] <fabio> hello
[09:53] <root__> hey!....bolivia???...you????
[09:53] <TeraDyne> ed__: That... would actually be a great idea.
[09:53] <BluesKaj> yup, certainly seems like a philips alright , nathan, nosrednaekim...now to find drivers
[09:54] <Gerrit> Hi.
[09:54] <llutz> ed__: some of this you can find later at http://bash.org/           ;))
[09:54] <TeraDyne> I'm also needing those philips drivers. I've got a laptop tuner card that I'm wanting to use.
[09:54] <Gerrit> KNetworkManager has (seemingly suddenly) stopped listing available wireless devices. Where do I check for possible errors?
[09:55] <CyD> Gerrit, typing dmesg in a console may show any problems
[09:56] <TeraDyne> a quick modprobe + Tab shows several entries of "saaXXXX". I see a "saa7134", "saa7134-alsa", "saa7134-dvb", "saa7134-empress", and "saa7134-oss"
[09:57] <Gerrit> ok
[09:57] <CyD> Gerrit, also if you know the name of the wireless driver, you can ensure it is loaded with lsmod. iwconfig will say if it's loaded ok
[09:57] <Gerrit> My wireless network works.
[09:57] <TeraDyne> directed at BluseKaj. Sorry.
[09:57] <Gerrit> I am connect wirelessly.
[09:57] <Gerrit> It connects flawlessly, it's just not listed in KNetworkManager.
[09:57] <CyD> Gerrit, ah
[09:57] <TeraDyne> directed at BluesKaj, i mean.
[09:58] <pass> what is knetworkmanager is all about?
[09:58] <Gerrit> It doesn't say "No wireless networks found" either. It just doesn't mention them. When I investigate at Options, it states that Wireless is 'enabled'.
[09:58] <Gerrit> It's supposed to dynamically tell me what wireless networks are available. It worked until recently. I think it stopped working after an apt-get upgrade, but I'm not sure.
[09:59] <pass> what is KNetworkManager is all about?
[09:59] <CyD> it allows you to manage wired and wireless networks
[09:59] <CyD> it autoconnects to known networks
[09:59] <CyD> and chooses the best, etc
[09:59] <pass> why can't you just configure it manually?
[10:00] <CyD> pass, the ease of use of NetworkManager is why it is popular and has become standard so quickly
[10:00] <ubuntu_> da
[10:01] <punky> da
[10:01] <punky> si ce face ti
[10:01] <Gerrit> I can configure it manually, but I like NetworkManager, because it tells me which networks are around. I'm not sure how to do that by hand.
[10:01] <Gerrit> 'iwconfig' connects to a wireless network if possible
[10:01] <llutz> Gerrit: iwlist scan :)
[10:01] <Gerrit> "Interface doesn't support scanning."
[10:02] <CyD> Gerrit, well another option would be an alternate gui until you get knm figured out. sorry not sure what the prob is :(
[10:02] <Gerrit> But now I suddenly remember something I tried to change.
[10:02] <punky> a voi sunte ti cu linux
[10:02] <CyD> ah :)
[10:02] <punky> mda
[10:02] <punky> bun asa
[10:02] <punky> mai nenea
[10:02] <Gerrit> I suddenly remember that I reconfigured something. Let's see.
[10:03] <Gerrit> Yes. It works again.
[10:03] <Gerrit> I made a change to /etc/network/interfaces in an attempt to connect to the network at my university. It didn't work, I gave up, and forgot to change it back.
[10:03] <CyD> yay :)
[10:04] <Gerrit> 'iwlist scan' now works.
[10:04] <Gerrit> knetworkmanager doesn't but that's probably an issue of restarting the right tools or deamons.
[10:05] <killermach> anyone have xen setup?
[10:05] <Gerrit> Hm. My test is not correct. Before I reconfigured /etc/network/interfaces I tested 'iwlist scan' as an ordinary user, and afterwards as root. As an ordinary user, the output didn't change, so I don't know if changing /etc/network/interfaces back did it. I'm going to try to restart some stuff. BBL.
[10:06] <nathan> blue did ya manage to find any drivers?
[10:08] <draik> How do I use KRDC to connect to a computer?
[10:09] <draik> I entered the IP address and it doesn't give me the option to connect
[10:09] <Gerrit> Yay. Problem solved. (-:
[10:09] <Gerrit> Bye
[10:13] <fitoria_> how do i open winrar files in kubuntu?
[10:13] <Banjooie> You..hm. sudo apt-get install unrar in the terminal
[10:13] <Banjooie> that'll make it so ark can do it
[10:13] <Banjooie> Anyone know how to make it so print screen doesn't open ksnapshot?
[10:13] <fitoria_> ok
[10:14] <fitoria_> thanks
[10:16] <Praveen> heh how to play windows games in feisty fawn'
[10:17] <BluesKaj> !games
[10:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:17] <nathan> blue n e look with drivers
[10:21] <AnyKey> Oh HELP! :)  I can't log in to the desktop from my login screen on my feisty desktop?  I log in with my name and password and I hear the login sound and "POOF!", I am quickly brought back to the login screen like I never have tried to log in yet.  Any ideas?!
[10:27] <Banjooie> Hm, okay.
[10:28] <Banjooie> Have you recently installed a new windows manager, AnyKey?
[10:28] <andres_> hi i downloaded a Printer driver how can i install it ??? file name:20040224171022421_lpp-1.1.2-7-ppc.tar.gz
[10:28] <AnyKey> windows manager.. like bearyl.. oh .. what ever the spelling.. yes a few days ago but its worked fine for a sense then?
[10:29] <Arwen> andres_, by reading the instructions?
[10:29] <Arwen> I'd start by untarring myself, but...
[10:30] <Banjooie> Alright, what I'd suggest trying first is you want to go to the login screen, and change the window manager back to KDE and see if that works.
[10:30] <Arwen> KDE isn't a window manager
[10:31] <sweettooth> hey has anyone got problems transferring files back and from NTFS drives? i have an NTFS mobile drive and transferred once or twice, now it tells me that access is denied to certain folders of my mobile drive
[10:31] <AnyKey> I think Banjooie meant the KDE default... if so how and if thats the first best choice.  I have to do it in safe mode because I can't log in.  How do I type that out?
[10:32] <Banjooie> Arwen: Yes, technically it isn't, I'm aware, but it's what the menu option says.
[10:32] <Banjooie> Er, you can get to the name/password screen, can't you?
[10:32] <Banjooie> you can change whether or not to start in beryl fromt here, I'm pretty sure.
[10:32] <Banjooie> Arwen: You wouldn't happen to know how to disable ksnapshot turning on whenever I hit print screen, would you?
[10:33] <AnyKey> let me check, Banjooie
[10:33] <Arwen> nope
[10:33] <Banjooie> Dangit.
[10:33] <Arwen> in GNOME, that's done by messing with metacity's config, but I've never used KDE
[10:33] <Banjooie> out of all the things you can do in linux, that seems to be the impossible one. :PP
[10:34] <Banjooie> My attempts at googling brought up some guy doing it but not saying how and an avalanche of 'wow, having print screen open up a program no matter what is TOTALLY AWESOME'
[10:35] <AnyKey> Banjooie, When I choose "session type" and I choose KDE or Default, both only do the same thing and keep me in the login screen.  Only 'failsafe' works in bring up a CLI window.
[10:36] <Banjooie> ...hm, alright, thanks. In that case, I don't know.
[10:36] <thompa> is there a log for apt-get actions
[10:37] <thompa> i want to check on what was unistalled by apt?
[10:37] <AnyKey> Banjooie, Sorry but, was that "I don't know" statement of yours ment for my problem?
[10:37] <Banjooie> Yeah, yours, Anykey, my bad
[10:37] <AnyKey> lol.. np.
[10:38] <AnyKey> Anyone else here wiht some ideas on this problem who saw the original posting?
[10:38] <AnyKey> I can also repost it
[10:39] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know a fairly easy way to get the Firefox java plugin to work?
[10:40] <AnyKey> FroggyTheGreat, I used Automatix and it works flawlessly for me
[10:41] <FroggyTheGreat> What is Automatix?
[10:41] <AnyKey> Google a search for it and on the website is a walkthrough on typing it in the command line in downloading it and installing it.
[10:41] <FroggyTheGreat> ok, thanks
[10:41] <jriachi> mmm... is there a good program for viewing http-video-streaming? with something like the youtube buffer line, or smth like that
[10:41] <AnyKey>  best of luck FroggyTheGreat
[10:42] <AnyKey> ((repost)) Oh HELP! :)  I can't log in to the desktop from my login screen on my feisty desktop?  I log in with my name and password and I hear the login sound and "POOF!", I am quickly brought back to the login screen like I never have tried to log in yet.  Any ideas?!
[10:43] <FroggyTheGreat> Thanks.
[10:44] <BluesKaj> !automatix | FroggyTheGreat
[10:44] <ubotu> FroggyTheGreat: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:46] <sweettooth> any thoughts on my previous question?
[10:46] <sweettooth> (hey has anyone got problems transferring files back and from NTFS drives? i have an NTFS mobile drive and transferred once or twice, now it tells me that access is denied to certain folders of my mobile drive)
[10:46] <coreymon77> sweettooth: is the wifi working?
[10:47] <sweettooth> coreymon77, the wifi is working, yay!!! thx for your guidance the other day
[10:47] <Banjooie> I'm kinda curious about this automatix thing.
[10:47] <coreymon77> Banjooie: never use autmatix!
[10:47] <Banjooie> Because specifically the guy talks about how you all hate him or something.
[10:47] <coreymon77> Banjooie: never!
[10:48] <Banjooie> Oddly, I did do it once, it worked fine.
[10:48] <coreymon77> Banjooie: you were lucky
[10:48] <draik> !VNC
[10:48] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:48] <coreymon77> Banjooie: very
[10:48] <draik> !RDP
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Banjooie: so the thing is taht since Ubuntu does't support Automatix, they really don't like that
[10:48] <coreymon77> !automatix | Banjooie
[10:48] <ubotu> Banjooie: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:48] <Banjooie> Yes, I saw the little bot thing.
[10:49] <Banjooie> the thing is, I've seen other things that install a bunch of programs, why is this one so bad?
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Banjooie: its not that we hate the project, it just makes it very hard to support people who use it
[10:49] <Banjooie> I mean, I've heard of 'EasyUbuntu' or whatever.
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> and they won't support their project
[10:49] <Banjooie> I'm just curious what it does wrong.
[10:49] <sweettooth> Banjooie, the adept stuff isnt too hard to use is it?
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> it does a lot of things like apt-get -f install
[10:49] <Banjooie> I'll tell you what: When you're first starting, yes.
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> and breaks dependecies at times
[10:50] <Banjooie> When you don't even know what a package manager is.
[10:50] <Banjooie> Admiral_Chicago: See, that's what I was curious about. Thanks.
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[10:50] <Banjooie> Like, if I hadn't had someone on AIM for the first 3-4 days telling me exactly what to do.
[10:50] <Banjooie> I would have said screw it and reinstalled Windows XP
[10:50] <sweettooth> Banjooie, that's true, remember first time i used linux, everything needed to be compiled
[10:50] <FroggyTheGreat> There's still no Shockwave Linux version, is there?
[10:50] <Banjooie> Yeah, it's becoming more user friendly, but, like, you know what would be awesome?
[10:51] <sweettooth> what?
[10:51] <sweettooth> double click, next next and finished? :P
[10:51] <Banjooie> I just want something at least where when you install the program, there's a little thing on the desktop.
[10:51] <Banjooie> --YES. But I realize that you're not allowed to have this for some reason.
[10:51] <sweettooth> lol
[10:51] <Banjooie> I realize that the very idea of an install process where you double click an icon and it installs something chills the linux developers to the very bones of their soul.
[10:52] <Banjooie> But all I want is for a little page on the desktop when you install Kubuntu that says, 'Hi! To install software, open up the package manager.'
[10:52] <sweettooth> guess things are different in Linux, i have used quite a few distro before and so far i think ubunut (or kubuntu im using) is quite simple to use
[10:52] <Banjooie> Yeah, see, that's your thing.
[10:52] <Banjooie> 'I have used quite a few distro before.'
[10:52] <Banjooie> When you're used to linux, it's totally easy and understandable. There IS no easy migration process from windows.
[10:52] <intelikey> Banjooie allowed ?   it's your hardware and your software do what you want with it.  that's what linux is all about.   linux developers are anyone that contributes code to the open source community
[10:52] <Banjooie> I'm not a coder.
[10:53] <sweettooth> Banjooie, say if you don't have mysql installed, try typing "mysql" and it does tell you that the software isn't install and what command to use in order to install it
[10:53] <Banjooie> Th--there you go.
[10:53] <Banjooie> Try typing it.
[10:53] <Banjooie> That's where you're going to lose a lot of people.
[10:53] <Banjooie> I frankly would have no idea to open up a console and type a program name to start it.
[10:53] <Banjooie> If nobody told me, I would have had no idea you could do that.
[10:54] <purpleposeidon> vmware apears to be killing dpkg....
[10:54] <FroggyTheGreat> ...That's from back in the Dos days.
[10:54] <Banjooie> It is, but not everyone used DOS.
[10:54] <AnyKey> is there a way to bring up a log file that might read what the error is when I try to log into KDE and it keeps backing me out?  Or maybe a log file that might record some error message from the initial loading of kubuntu before the login that was during the bootup process?
[10:54] <Banjooie> A lot of people started computers at 98, or XP.
[10:54] <sweettooth> true true, but i think you might need to have the heart to learn a thing or two
[10:54] <Banjooie> Yeah, but you have no place to start from.
[10:55] <Banjooie> Again, just a simple 'this is a very basic guide on how to start' so you can look more stuff up later.
[10:55] <Banjooie> Try to google 'how to use bash'.
[10:55] <Banjooie> You will find bash scripts.
[10:55] <AnyKey> search for "Bash begginers guild" errrr.. if spelling permits
[10:55] <sweettooth> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+to+use+bash&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[10:56] <sweettooth> that's what i
[10:56] <Banjooie> Alright, I don't think you're quite getting this.
[10:56] <sweettooth> i've got when i searched it
[10:56] <AnyKey> guide
[10:56] <Banjooie> Let's say I'd just switched from Windows XP.
[10:56] <Banjooie> Now, the only reason I did was that I screwed my windows XP install and I couldn't use safe mode because of a weird thing about my monitor.
[10:56] <Banjooie> But let's say I do it to 'see how this linux thing works.'
[10:57] <Banjooie> I see the word 'package manager.' Now, in Windows, that's some weird thing I never use. I don't know what it is in Linux, and I'm frankly afraid to click things I don't know anything about.
[10:57] <Banjooie> Nowhere is it going to tell me 'This is how you install teh phat programs'. I didn't even know what it was until a week after I started.
[10:57] <sweettooth> may be that's why we are in this channel, to ask questions, learn and help?
[10:57] <Banjooie> again
[10:58] <Banjooie> starting an OS should not require you to join IRC.
[10:58] <intelikey> Banjooie let me see if i understand all this.   1 you have used linux for a little while now and know a little about it    2 you are not a coder    3 you want to see changes in the basic install process, which others will have to write,   4 you want to see some basic tut.'s which you can write.        ok got it.  you go write the tutorials     and the coders will consider your request.
[10:58] <Banjooie> Maybe after the first week or so, wheny ou get into complex stuff
[10:58] <Banjooie> ...alright, I wil.
[10:59] <sweettooth> there might be things that aren't very user-friendly in linux, but there are a lot of things that windows cant do in here, so why not give it a go? ^^
[10:59] <n8k99> nice place to start i http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:00] <Schuenemann> how do I rename a file? this 'rename' command seem too complicated (involves regular expressions and such)
[11:00] <Banjooie> Schuenemann: Try mv oldname.extension newname.extension
[11:01] <Schuenemann> wow, this is terrible. That command was supposed to move
[11:01] <Banjooie> It does move things.
[11:01] <Banjooie> It moves it into the same folder, under a different name.
[11:01] <intelikey> one of the major and most fundimental differances in M$ and linux is the idea of 'freedom'  M$ tries to do everything for you and you just look and listen,   linux tries to give you avinues in which you can do anything you choose without making the choice for you.
[11:01] <Banjooie> Well, okay. What if I /want/ to have my hand held, though?
[11:01] <Banjooie> I should have the option of having my hand held, or not.
[11:02] <Schuenemann> I disagree this would be "doing everything for me"
[11:02] <intelikey> then install ubuntu
[11:02] <Banjooie> O
[11:02] <Banjooie> I'm using Kubuntu. That's not holding my hand.
[11:02] <Arwen> hand-holding = sexual abuse
[11:02] <Banjooie> Trust me. For somebody who just came off windows, starting linux does not hold your hand. Having to google ten billion things, while fun and entertaining, and I had a lot of good times, it is not holding my hand.
[11:02] <Arwen> there
[11:02] <Banjooie> ....hahaha
[11:02] <Schuenemann> I suppose this is not for me
[11:03] <sweettooth> Schuenemann, how do you rename a file in windows?
[11:03] <Schuenemann> rename file name
[11:04] <sweettooth> i usually select the file, right-click and rename
[11:04] <sweettooth> or select the file, press F2 and type in the new name
[11:04] <Schuenemann> I had no X and needed to rename xorg2 to xorg.conf
[11:04] <sweettooth> arha ic
[11:04] <vzduch> no problem doing that in Linux w/ a window manager
[11:05] <sweettooth> vzduch, yes indeed, you can do both if you are with a window manager :)
[11:05] <Schuenemann> luckily I had a file copy with that very name
[11:05] <intelikey> Schuenemann sudo mv /path/file /newpath/filesnew.name        or just cp it.
[11:07] <intelikey> cat will also work for that
[11:07] <Schuenemann> very meaningless in my opinion...
[11:08] <Banjooie> Look, despite how I've railed against Linux for the last ten minutes or so
[11:08] <Banjooie> once you learn it, oh god it's worth it.
[11:08] <Banjooie> There's a bunch of things that don't make any sense at first but they will later.
[11:09] <Schuenemann> well, using a 'move' command to rename something will never make sense to me. And having a 'rename' command makes that worse :-)
[11:09] <Schuenemann> but that's ok
[11:09] <Evolution2> i would like to install a color scheme on my kde but its a script file. i dont know how to install it?
[11:10] <intelikey> Banjooie you know how M$ always dumps you into some EUKA text and expects you to click "i accept" before you can go any farther.   i believe linux should open  "man man "    before you can install... :)
[11:10] <brendon> Schuenemann: I think you'll find that mv to rename predates "rename" by a long way.  Until Dos came along and changed things
[11:11] <Banjooie> No, because the man files are /inaccessible/ to new people.
[11:11] <rodrigo> hi any one knows how to install virtual box?
[11:11] <intelikey> !theme | Evolution2
[11:11] <ubotu> Evolution2: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:11] <Banjooie> They're written for computer literate people.
[11:11] <Schuenemann> brendon, I didn't know that, but I think M$ did something right there =] 
[11:11] <intelikey> Banjooie inaccessible  ?
[11:11] <rodrigo> #ubuntu
[11:12] <Banjooie> I'll tell you what: I was no slouch with windows XP, I was doing clever registry and compmgmt crap before I switched.
[11:12] <Banjooie> The man pages terrified me.
[11:12] <Evolution2> intelikey: i dont understand how to install using a kate file
[11:12] <brendon> Schuenemann: Technically, mv never moves a file...
[11:12] <Banjooie> Er, I thought it did?
[11:12] <Banjooie> I thought you could move files with it.
[11:12] <gadgit> no it changes a link to it
[11:12] <intelikey> Banjooie the whole point is that you would have to learn what the "man" command does and how to get out of it....
[11:13] <Schuenemann> brendon, ok, but the name suggest "move"... technically, files do not get erased/deleted either
[11:13] <brendon> exactly, gadgit has it, the file never moves
[11:13] <Banjooie> brendon: Metaphorically, it's in a different directory, it has moved.
[11:13] <Banjooie> As far as the end user is concerned, the file has moved.
[11:13] <gadgit> right and deleting something just allows it to be overwritten with new data
[11:13] <Schuenemann> correct
[11:13] <gadgit> it's still there until something takes its place on the disk
[11:13] <intelikey> like duh.   idiots spend 10 to 20 years learning windows and expect to know linux in 2 minutes.     !
[11:14] <Banjooie> Yes!
[11:14] <joe4288> hi im having troble with azureus
[11:14] <Banjooie> You should be able to reasonably use linux right out of the box.
[11:14] <Schuenemann> intelikey, thanks
[11:14] <joe4288> first it was a java problem but i selected a non sun java and it started working
[11:14] <gadgit> I would recommend going to the azureus website and getting the most recent version, I had issues with it crashing and stopping downloads until I did that
[11:14] <joe4288> but it doesnt seem to download at all
[11:14] <intelikey> Schuenemann welcome
[11:14] <Banjooie> Like, you should, with no prior knowledge, at lest be able to check your email, read the web, and do what average people do on the computer.
[11:14] <Banjooie> You have that these days, that's cool.
[11:14] <Banjooie> Then there should be a more gradual process to get them acclimated to linux.
[11:15] <joe4288> but wont installing it with using the package manager make this weird
[11:15] <Schuenemann> I agree on that. That's why I complained about this way of renaming
[11:15] <Schuenemann> but it's ok for me
[11:15] <gadgit> just grab the jre and unzip it somewhere...then simply add a launch for azureus
[11:15] <jzilla> why not use ktorrent?
[11:15] <gadgit> uninstall it with the package manager if you have already done so
[11:15] <intelikey> Banjooie there is.  put linux in your home and school
[11:15] <gadgit> ktorrent isn't as full featured IMHO
[11:15] <joe4288> but i have torrent that are halfway downloaded
[11:15] <joe4288> and i dont just want to end them
[11:15] <gadgit> I like being able to control my downloads remotely via a WebUI
[11:16] <joe4288> i was just wonderin why it wouldnt be doing loading
[11:16] <joe4288> could it still be a java issue
[11:16] <brendon> Schuenemann: mv vs rename shouldn't be an issue for those coming from Windows... They should be using the "file manager"
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Banjooie, did you learn how to use windows correctly the first time you encountered it ? :)
[11:16] <gadgit> also I would enable the multiverse repos and install jre 6 with your package manager
[11:16] <joe4288> did that
[11:16] <gdiebel> gadgit: I like to remote control my downloads as well, I just use nx and control the box from a full xsession
[11:16] <gadgit> and your torrents stop after a while or what?
[11:16] <joe4288> no they just dont download
[11:17] <gadgit> are there seeds for the torrent you are trying to get?
[11:17] <joe4288> i connect to peers but i get no upload or download transmission
[11:17] <joe4288> yes
[11:17] <joe4288> even my seeds arnt uploading
[11:17] <Banjooie> BluesKaj: I'd say...hm.
[11:17] <gadgit> try restarting azureus and see if they pick back up.
[11:17] <joe4288> tried that they dont :(
[11:17] <Banjooie> I was using computers before Windows.
[11:17] <gadgit> Mine woulud stop every ten minutes or so till I grabbed the most recent ver. off of sourceforge.net
[11:17] <Banjooie> I was moderately confused by the switch where 'escape' didn't close a program in 3.1
[11:18] <joe4288> wait i think i figured it out looking at the consol output
[11:18] <Banjooie> But mostly my general guide here is my mother.
[11:18] <joe4288> it might me because im using a diffrenet jar from the java
[11:18] <Banjooie> Because I'm like 'well, you have to type this i--'
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Banjooie, same thing goes for Linux , except after a while you'll realize ...it just works better ;0
[11:18] <joe4288> let me change it and see what happens
[11:18] <Banjooie> and the response was
[11:18] <Banjooie> 'NO TYPING THINGS IN, I WON'T DO IT.'
[11:18] <terayam> I'm having some video preformance issues, KDE says my video ram is 256kb but I know I have at least 256mb ( I have 512 with turbocache, but I dunno if that works with linux ) and I can't seem to change the option
[11:18] <Banjooie> And until you manage to find a way to break that barrier, you're not going to break into mainstream home computing.
[11:19] <ubuntu_> i am right now trying to install kubuntu but i get the message any device is found, any ides how to solve this, i do not need to save any data in the laptop i am trying to install
[11:19] <Banjooie> You can do almost everything you need with windows xp without breaking into a command line.
[11:19] <gadgit> yeah IMO linux is much more intuitive to use than Windows...It just takes people forgetting how things worked in an AM$ world...
[11:19] <Banjooie> You CAN use the command line in windows XP, to do a lot of cool things.
[11:19] <Banjooie> But you don't have to.
[11:19] <Banjooie> In linux, you have to.
[11:19] <gdiebel> Banjooie: nonsense
[11:19] <joe4288> yea but you dont have FULL control of the system
[11:19] <joe4288> and with a good linux you dont need to use the console
[11:19] <Banjooie> Sure, but I don't see why you can't have your cake here and eat it too.
[11:19] <gadgit> I use the command line in windows to make sure my ip address is correct....and that is about it
[11:19] <joe4288> but it does help
[11:20] <Banjooie> I should be able to install something from a tarball.
[11:20] <Banjooie> Without opening a console.
[11:20] <gadgit> you can
[11:20] <joe4288> it depends on what you want to do with linux
[11:20] <Banjooie> Er, how.
[11:20] <gadgit> well not that...
[11:20] <gadgit> responded too soon
[11:20] <gadgit> but its three commands to run to install a tar ball
[11:20] <Banjooie> That needs to be changed.
[11:20] <Banjooie> Three commands too many.
[11:20] <ubuntu_> any ideas there?
[11:20] <gdiebel> Banjooie: installing from a tarball is not recommended. Use the package manager (if you are your mother for instance)
[11:20] <joe4288> the only issue i have is i cant use some of the windows programs i like
[11:21] <gadgit> use Wine
[11:21] <Banjooie> And yeah, the package maner is nice.
[11:21] <joe4288> well bangooie you can always make a script
[11:21] <Banjooie> If I could get it to stop asking for my root password every time I start it, it would be perfect.
[11:21] <joe4288> then you dont have to do anything but run the script
[11:21] <joe4288> haha no console now
[11:21] <gadgit> the only thing I have not been able to get working in Wine is Visio
[11:21] <intelikey> Banjooie confession time.   this is not a money driven venture.  most linux fanatics could hardly care less whether anyone else uses linux or not.   speeking for my self, if you want to use linux good use it. it's free, if you don't, then don't, it's still free.  but stop telling us we are doing something wrong or trying to make a competition out of it.   we are not competing with M$. nor do we want too.
[11:21] <joe4288> well my wine set up isnt working right now
[11:21] <gdiebel> Banjooie: root? wtf are you talking about. Kubuntu uses sudo
[11:21] <joe4288> havnt figured out why
[11:21] <Banjooie> Yeah, sudo. The idea here is.
[11:21] <joe4288> it says i have modules running free
[11:21] <arebenti> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[11:22] <Banjooie> Is there some setting I'm not seeing? I understand it's very useful on a networked computer to ask for the password everywhere.
[11:22] <joe4288> no im on root right now
[11:22] <joe4288> i set it up that way :)
[11:22] <gadgit> joe4288: good point about the script, but then you can't see any errors that may get passed over during compiling
[11:22] <joe4288> i like beeing all powerful mwahahaha
[11:22] <Banjooie> ...er, you shouldn't be running in root in general, though.
[11:22] <joe4288> well you can run a script and have a consle output
[11:22] <joe4288> or even have any errors dump to a log
[11:22] <intelikey> as far as we are concerned M$ is something that that other mentality uses.  and big deal!
[11:22] <Banjooie> ...Alright. Alright, fair enough.
[11:22] <joe4288> yea i know
[11:23] <joe4288> but i love my all powerful root mwahahahaha
[11:23] <gadgit> joe4288: valid point, just my method I guess to watch it go by as I am compiling it.  if I don't do that I would probably never parse through the log.  To each their own I guess :)
[11:23] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo | Banjooie
[11:23] <ubotu> Banjooie: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:23] <Banjooie> I know what sudo is.
[11:23] <Banjooie> FFS, been using linux since last october.
[11:23] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu | Banjooie
[11:23] <ubotu> Banjooie: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:23] <Banjooie> ....
[11:23] <joe4288> nah just doing mantince so i jumped onto root so i dont have to throw my password around every 3 secs
[11:23] <gadgit> running as root isn't really an issue if you know what you are doing
[11:23] <Banjooie> Whoa, I've been doing it wrong for months.
[11:24] <Banjooie> Seriously? You're not supposed to like
[11:24] <Banjooie> sudo wine WoW.exe -d3d -nosound
[11:24] <gadgit> I don't run wine as sudo
[11:24] <Banjooie> I have been, because WoW doesn't patch right without it
[11:24] <joe4288> no only do root when you need to config something
[11:24] <gadgit> and I have WoW running with audio and the whole shebang....actually gets more FPS than in Windoze
[11:24] <Banjooie> But I'm supposed to be using kdesu? Man.That explains a lot.
[11:25] <gadgit> well that means the directory your .wine folder in is most likely not writable by your user
[11:25] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt ^5
[11:25] <joe4288> you might want to adjust your user privigees a little if it wont let you run your stuff
[11:25] <jhutchins_lt> Banjooie: Yeah, sudo can cause the gui apps to write config files and such as root.
[11:25] <gadgit> sudo is symlinked to kdesu
[11:25] <gdiebel> joe4288: you do realize that when you use sudo, it keeps your elevated permissions for a bit so you don't need to type your password again and again. just use sudo
[11:25] <Banjooie> Huh. Yeah, I've been manually fixing that when need be.
[11:25] <jhutchins_lt> gadgit: I don't think so.
[11:25] <Banjooie> I didn't know there was an easier way.
[11:26] <joe4288> i know :( its just easyer for me to run around ass root for a little to take care of my stuff
[11:26] <joe4288> i know enough not to screw my comp up
[11:26] <joe4288> (learned the hard way on debian LOL)
[11:26] <Banjooie> Admittedly, I saw Kdesu open when I ran like synaptic but I always figured that was just some thing you had to code into the program or whatever.
[11:26] <jhutchins_lt> gadgit: /usr/bin/kdesu: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[11:26] <jhutchins_lt> Not a link.
[11:26] <gadgit> jhutchins_lt: ehh good point I guess, just allows sudo to be ran in a gui env.
[11:26] <jhutchins_lt> gadgit: Sort of like a wrapper or a shell.
[11:26] <joe4288> nah you can go to the menu editor and set a program to run as another user
[11:27] <joe4288> (like me when i installed kpackage)
[11:27] <Banjooie> Oh man, that's hilarious
[11:27] <gadgit> jhutchins_lt:accomplishes the same task though...and yes I agree...was a bit hasty with my initial post
[11:27] <intelikey> Banjooie avanues man avanues,  freedom.  many ways to get to any point.     that's what i've been saying.
[11:27] <Banjooie> Yeah, but that's the thing: What I'm hearing here is I was doing it incorrectly.
[11:27] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: I think if you're gonna run *buntu, you should try to work with the security scheme they have in mind.
[11:28] <BluesKaj> intelikey, spelling ...avenues perhaps ? :)
[11:28] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: If you want to run as root, a distro that intends for you to run as root might work better for you.
[11:28] <joe4288> but why? i love to do things my way
[11:28] <Banjooie> Freedom of spelling, Blues.
[11:28] <Banjooie> Freedom of spelling.
[11:28] <joe4288> well i was using debian for a long while
[11:28] <intelikey> Banjooie there is not incorrect.  there is your way my way and other ways  use the one that best suits you.
[11:28] <joe4288> and just felt like mixing it up without straying to far from known territory
[11:28] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: Debian doesn't lock root down like ubuntu does, does it?
[11:28] <joe4288> nope
[11:29] <joe4288> you get to run root free :)
[11:29] <intelikey> BluesKaj perhaps  is that american english ?
[11:29] <joe4288> but kde does lock you out
[11:29] <BluesKaj> yeah freedon as long others understand
[11:29] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:29] <sn00py> hi! i compiled and installed ksmoothdock but it CRASHES! :( is there any alternative to it?
[11:29] <joe4288> so you have to run startx on the console it you want to run as root in a graphical enivroment
[11:29] <sn00py> i habe kde 3.5.6
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> I try to have patience and use sudo.  I'll admit I revert to sudo -i when I have multiple tasks.
[11:30] <joe4288> see :P
[11:30] <joe4288> when you have a lot of maintence to do sometimes its just easyer to run as root
[11:30] <joe4288> huh?
[11:30] <joe4288> why would you not want a sudo system
[11:31] <joe4288> what do you do just su everything?
[11:31] <Bearhill> Hello, can anyone tell me how to install a Linksys PCMCIA card in my laptop? I am using Kubuntu 7.04. The card shows up in network, but I can't get it to find the router
[11:31] <intelikey> can't su.  it's nosuid
[11:31] <gadgit> Ah I have a question actually that has been a bit tough to google:  I have a mythtvfronted running off my desktop which is hooked to a TV in another room.  the only way I can get it to launch on the correct display is to have the icon on the TV....Needless to say it's a bit tough to click an icon that I can't see.  Anyone know what parameters I need to pass the launch to make it open on a specific display?
[11:31] <intelikey> if you are not root  there is no root access piriod
[11:31] <joe4288> then how do you do root commands?
[11:31] <joe4288> oooo i see
[11:31] <joe4288> man you like your safty huh
[11:32] <intelikey> only at time.
[11:32] <intelikey> :)
[11:32] <Bearhill> Hello, can anyone tell me how to install a Linksys PCMCIA card in my laptop? I am using Kubuntu 7.04. The card shows up in network, but I can't get it to find the router
[11:32] <joe4288> nah this is just the windows/linux family comp so im not worried about some 1 running off as root and cuasing damage
[11:32] <joe4288> so things work good this way
[11:32] <gadgit> Bearhill: what happens when you run iwconfig?
[11:33] <joe4288> Bearhill: the only problem is finding the router?
[11:33] <gadgit> Bearhill:does it list a specific interface? usually eth1, wlan0 or ath0
[11:33] <brendon> Why does nobody use "sudo bash" instead of su?
[11:33] <intelikey> but i upgraded this box from hoary to dapper just before dapper was released and it's still running it without error/flaw    so my way works for me....
[11:33] <joe4288> Bearhill: then just screw dhcp and set it up manually
[11:33] <gadgit> Bearhilldid you specify your wireless-essid in /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:33] <intelikey> !worksforme
[11:33] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:33] <brendon> Since sudo is not set up correctly on *buntu anyway
[11:33] <Arwen> but... common sense is not
[11:34] <Arwen> brendon, explain
[11:34] <brendon> Which sudo bash or not set up correctly?
[11:34] <rustalot> I think he means the part where the root password isn't used
[11:34] <joe4288> well ever 1 has there cup of tea you know
[11:34] <intelikey> sudo bash    yuch.   that can trash your permissions
[11:35] <intelikey> sudo -i    or sudo su -
[11:35] <joe4288> some people dont want any 1 but root to have any power
[11:35] <joe4288> other give every 1 sudo
[11:35] <gadgit> I agree with the sudo su
[11:35] <joe4288> others give every 1 su so
[11:35] <sn00py> hi! i compiled and installed ksmoothdock but it CRASHES! :( is there any alternative to it?
[11:35] <sn00py> i have kde 3.5.6
[11:35] <brendon> sudo is supposed to grant LIMITED root power to users
[11:35] <Arwen> sn00py, dock = fail
[11:35] <intelikey> gadgit sudo su -     it will give full root env
[11:35] <joe4288> me i have su and sudo but i still work as root just to get work done a little faster
[11:35] <sn00py> fail? why
[11:36] <sn00py> it looks great
[11:36] <Arwen> there's avant if you want... and why? they look stupid
[11:36] <gadgit> intelikey: right that's what I use when I have to do an abundance of maintenance.
[11:36] <jhutchins_lt> sudo su - is just silly.
[11:36] <Arwen> but I wont' debate it with you... *mumble* mac fanboys.... *mumble*
[11:36] <Banjooie> Sudo su is what I use all the time.
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> Using su without the environment (-) is a bad idea.
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> Unpredictable results.
[11:37] <Arwen> jhutchins_lt, explain
[11:37] <joe4288> well i only use su when im board
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> Files where they should not be.
[11:37] <brendon> or predictably wrong! LOL
[11:37] <joe4288> sudo gets the job done
[11:37] <joe4288> but i normally just run as root like now because AZUREUS IS PISSING ME OFF!!!
[11:38] <joe4288> cant figure out why im not downloading
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> sudo logs root actions, and it allows the admin to control what users can execute what commands.
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: You're running IRC as root!?
[11:38] <gadgit> joe4288: I'm tellin ya, grab the version off of sourceforge
[11:38] <joe4288> yea but not every 1 needs that kinda setup
[11:38] <gadgit> joe4288: solved all of my problems with azureus pissing me off
[11:38] <joe4288> i might try that
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> No, wait, he's running bittorrent AND IRC as root!
[11:38] <joe4288> but i cant to see if i can figure out this issue
[11:38] <brendon> jhutchins_lt: only if sudo is configured properly, not an open ticket to everything
[11:39] <joe4288> yes i am :P
[11:39] <rustalot> why not use KTorrent?
[11:39] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt  well it does log via both sudo and su   and using  sudo -i  probably achieves the same end result     dont ban me  but  i think that sudo su will use root env  cause to su it was called as root   am i missing something ?      but at any rate i always do mention the dash for the login shell affects    sudo -i   or   sudo su -
[11:39] <jhutchins_lt> Next thing you're gonna post your password and ask somebody to check your setup!
[11:39] <Arwen> or rtorrent even
[11:39] <joe4288> i would but my azureus already has files downloading an di just want to finsh them
[11:39] <gadgit> joe4288: it doesn't actually install anything either, just runs the java file.  then simply point it to download in the same place it was and launch the .torrent files again to resume them.  That will also get your existing seeds going again
[11:39] <joe4288> sounds good ill probly try that
[11:39] <omega__> hy
[11:39] <joe4288> nah i dont care if any 1 runs free here
[11:40] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: I would say use sudo -i, or enable the root account and use su -.
[11:40] <joe4288> nothing important this comp
[11:40] <joe4288> ok g2g by
[11:40] <omega__> how can i install a particular program
[11:40] <gadgit> joe4288: definitely, just don't get the vuze (3.0) version...too much bloat for my taste.  I think 2.5 is the most recent version otherwise
[11:40] <jhutchins_lt> Since we're doing more and more through the gui, getting used to sudo/kdesu is a good idea.
[11:40] <omega__> nonlinux
[11:40] <ubuntu_> newbie: no device is found when trying to install kubuntu any ideas how to solve this
[11:41] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: Try the alt CD.
[11:41] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: SATA?
[11:41] <brendon> kdesu is useful to run X apps over an ssh tunnel
[11:41] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt :)     but i'm doing less with the gui     (:
[11:41] <intelikey> i'm also offtopic    sorry.
[11:41] <gadgit> see other than my Mythtv box, I have never had an issue with a SATA drive in ubuntu
[11:42] <gadgit> but my mythbox is running on KnoppMyth so I believe the kernel it is using is a bit older than what 7.04 has
[11:42] <ubuntu_> what is alt cd?
[11:43] <intelikey> alternate install cdrom
[11:43] <gadgit> doesn't have the livecd portion of it and is a traditional linux installer
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: More options on how it installs.
[11:43] <gadgit> more text based I guess is my way of describing it....and a hell of a lot faster
[11:43] <ubuntu_> i am using the leve cd
[11:43] <ubuntu_> live
[11:44] <darkrift411> anyone know a good program in linux to rebuild avi index? and no, divxfix didnt work for me
[11:44] <intelikey> live cd install = more M$ like install, less options less control less freedom.
[11:44] <Arwen> darkrift411, eh... VLC can do it for you, but... I'd recommend ditching AVI, it's a crappy container
[11:44] <darkrift411> well
[11:45] <prestwick> Hey guys, just installed Kubuntu Feisty and when it gets to GRUB, just after it starts to boot the screen goes blank and the PC reboots. Am using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 with a  nforce4 motherboard and a Maxtor Diamondmax 9 80gb HDD
[11:45] <darkrift411> i want to see the last half of a movie
[11:45] <Arwen> the harder way would be to use mencoder and remux it into a fresh container
[11:45] <darkrift411> and vlc doestn seem to be able to handle it
[11:45] <Arwen> darkrift411, use mencoder to remux it
[11:45] <darkrift411> i want to avoid a long drawn out process
[11:45] <darkrift411> just to see the last half of a movie
[11:45] <Arwen> well, no effort in, no results out
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[11:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> prestwick: ^^^^
[11:46] <prestwick> Ah but I don't think its GRUB
[11:46] <Arwen> darkrift411, for example, mencoder -o fixed.avi -of avi -oac copy -ovc copy broken.avi works
[11:46] <prestwick> GRUB does its job, it boots the kernal but straight after that, the point where it is meant to start booting Kubuntu proper, it just goes blank and reboots.
[11:47] <intelikey> prestwick no i dont think grub either
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> well as you are using a maxtor you could try badblocks to check the hdd
[11:47] <prestwick> badblocks?
[11:47] <mike-kubuntu> hey, after the latest nvidia update for some reason my nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.76** unless i log into a virtual console and do a sudo rmmod nvidia and then sudo modprobe nvidia, then x starts up fine, any idea what package to reconfigure or how to fix this?
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> yep it checks the state of your hdd
[11:48] <prestwick> I noticed that I had exactly the same trouble booting from the livecd but when I put "noacpi" and "nolacpi" it worked
[11:48] <intelikey> prestwick but what you describe is not something easily traced,   it's probably in the initramfs.   and most likely some hardware probe that trips the reset protocal
[11:48] <Schuenemann> how do I check if I have a certain module installed?
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> You know, recovering a "broken" avi file presumes there's enough data there that recovery is possible.
[11:48] <Arwen> ^^
[11:48] <Ray-> NickPresta: hello
[11:48] <darkrift411> encoder -o fixed.avi -of avi -oac copy -ovc copy broken.avi <----- that the command (with names changed) ?
[11:49] <Arwen> if VLC/divxfix can't repair it, it's probably more than a b0rk3d index
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> prestwick: So did you add those to the boot options on the install?
[11:49] <Arwen> darkrift411, yes, and if it doesn't work, it means your file is truly broken
[11:49] <prestwick> I did but I don't think I did it correctly because the same thing happened
[11:49] <intelikey> prestwick yep there you go.    try booting with noacpi and see if it boots
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> prestwick: well check /boot/grub/menu.lst has got the correct info
[11:50] <prestwick> okie
[11:50] <jhutchins_lt> You would think the installer would check for special options used to boot the system, but no, you have to add those manually.
[11:50] <intelikey> prestwick at the grub splash   [etc]    select the boot option and   [e]     select the kernel line and   [e]   add noacpi and [enter]  [b] 
[11:50] <Schuenemann> how do I check if I have a certain module installed?
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> Schuenemann: installed or loaded/
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> ?
[11:51] <intelikey> lsmod
[11:51] <darkrift411> file not found 'encoder'
[11:51] <Schuenemann> huh... loaded
[11:51] <mike-kubuntu> I've read linux-restricted-modules comes with every version of nvidia-kernel- modules, wheres the config file that tells it which module to load?
[11:51] <darkrift411> oh
[11:51] <darkrift411> nvm
[11:51] <Ray-> I'm trying to change the ip address of my kubuntu but I cann't it says invalid gateway IP address, I joined beore and NickPresta told me to change it from /etc/network/interfaces I chnage the eth0 dhcp to static and I set address and submask and gateway but it didnt work
[11:51] <prestwick> Gatekeeper: It obviously didn't as I checked and it didn't have noacpi, it works now.
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> Schuenemann: sudo lsmod | grep <name>
[11:51] <Schuenemann> intelikey, any way of not having to read them all? a grep-like
[11:51] <Schuenemann> thanks
[11:51] <Ray-> I did restart X as well
[11:51] <ubuntu_> the hard dis is not found when installing how can i solve this
[11:52] <brendon> Ray-: Sounds like you didn't put the correct info in interfaces
[11:52] <intelikey> Schuenemann installed or loaded ?     installed   modprobe -l | grep blah     loaded   lsmod | grep blah
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> prestwick: cool :-)
[11:52] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: Start by using the alternate install CD.  Tell us what kind of disk it is that's not found.
[11:52] <prestwick> Be right back, just going to switch to Konversation on my new Kubuntu install :D
[11:52] <prestwick> Thanks for the help Gatekeeper, InteliKey & Jhutchins
[11:52] <Ray-> brendon: I got the ifconfig log I will paste in the paste website hold
[11:52] <Schuenemann> if a module is loaded, it of course is installed, right?
[11:52] <brendon> Schuenemann: just add | grep <whatever>
[11:53] <brendon> yes
[11:53] <intelikey> Schuenemann and the modprobe -l will say blah-blah   but the lsmod will say blah_blah   so try to use the correct one in the grep or avoid them altogather
[11:53] <intelikey> Schuenemann yes if it's loaded it's installed   hehhe
[11:54] <Schuenemann> what's the difference of those blah-blah? just that character in the middle?
[11:54] <Ray-> brendon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27861/
[11:54] <brendon> Ray-: BTW (important for Windows converts) restarting X has nothing to do with networking or linux or anything else, except the window
[11:54] <darkrift411> the last half of the movie is gone now Arwen
[11:54] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt but of course,  this is linux after all.
[11:54] <jhutchins_lt> Schuenemann: Right.  Often a good idea to use a fragment of the name - less chance for error.
[11:54] <brendon> Ray-: Ok, I'm looking
[11:55] <darkrift411> guess ill redownlaod
[11:55] <darkrift411> the 4th time
[11:55] <Prestwick> Argh!
[11:55] <Schuenemann> hum... weird
[11:55] <Arwen> darkrift411, well, that's what you get for downloading pirated movies
[11:55] <darkrift411> new source
[11:55] <darkrift411> lol
[11:55] <Arwen> here's a hint: GO BUY THEM
[11:55] <Arwen> and next time, don'
[11:55] <intelikey> Schuenemann yes the dash or underscore
[11:55] <darkrift411> i do buy them
[11:55] <darkrift411> when they come out
[11:55] <Arwen> and next time, don't get an AVI, find an MKV
[11:55] <Schuenemann> Mortal Kombat V ?
[11:55] <darkrift411> lol
[11:55] <Arwen> ...
[11:56] <Ray-> brendon: I wanna change the inet addr:169.254.231.201  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
[11:56] <Arwen> Ray-, lol, your network is malconfigured. 169.x.x.x means unconfigured
[11:57] <brendon> Ray-: best to pastie your interfaces file!
[11:57] <Prestwick> Where is the guide to install the ATI fglrx?
[11:57] <Arwen> !fglrx | Prestwick
[11:57] <ubotu> Prestwick: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:57] <intelikey> Schuenemann err. disreguard the dash part.  it seems that modprobe -l lists underscored names.  but the modprobe command for inserting and removing modules is build for dash name   so in your search the point was moot.
[11:57] <Prestwick> Nice one Arwen, cheers.
[11:57] <Schuenemann> intelikey, alrite
[11:58] <Ray-> brendon: okey I will reboot and get you the interfaces, I got only on PC and I still dont have internet on the kubuntu I'm on XP now
[11:58] <brendon> Ray-: What IP do you want?
[11:59] <vzduch> Ray-: install Ext2IFS
[11:59] <intelikey> vzduch install it from where ?
[11:59] <Ray-> I want 10.192.192.3 mask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.192.192.1
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> Ray-: sudo ifconfig - you might want to man ifconfig first.
[11:59] <intelikey> vzduch oh for access to the ext fs from windows   i see.
[12:00] <vzduch> http://www.fs-driver.org/download/Ext2IFS_1_10c.exe
[12:00] <Ray-> jhutchins: I tried to add but it says access denide, so sudo is the root thingie right? coz I tried su - and su root but it didnt work
[12:00] <vzduch> install, then reboot & you can mount your ext3 volumes read/write in Windoze
[12:00] <Arwen> ext2ifs not free software though, you've been warned
[12:01] <vzduch> Arwen: Windows is not free software, you've been warned :D
[12:01] <Ray-> I should add an I line somewhere so they can see the other OS media storage
[12:01] <Ray-> brb
[12:01] <intelikey> windows ?   what's that ?
[12:01] <Ray-> I'll see what I can do
[12:02] <Prestwick> Windows? Never heard of it guv'nor
[12:02] <jhutchins_lt> There's xwindows, but that' free.
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[12:02] <Arwen> cmon, we don't need trolls here
[12:02] <Arwen> geesh
[12:03] <intelikey> it's not trolling to dis on something that hates you.
[12:03] <intelikey> :)
[12:03] <Arwen> .........................
[12:03] <Prestwick> *buried in full stops* x_x
[12:05] <Prestwick> Hey, why have the Debian people made their own version of Firefox?
[12:05] <Arwen> because Firefox isn't free
[12:05] <Prestwick> Well, the parts of it that it uses are not free, right?
[12:06] <Arwen> yes
[12:06] <Prestwick> I didn't actually realise that haha
[12:07] <Prestwick> What parts are the ones causing all the fuss then?
[12:07] <intelikey> you know.  the first time i saw ff, not knowing anything about that. i imediately didn't like it. and had no real idea why.    and never have liked ff sense...
[12:07] <Arwen> Prestwick, the logos
[12:08] <Arwen> intelikey, ....
[12:08] <Prestwick> Arwen: my god! The swine!
[12:09] <intelikey> some people lobe vesta ...     so?
[12:09] <Ray-> I'll paste what I got
[12:09] <VSpike> lobe jobs... heh heh
[12:09] <Arwen> intelikey, please stop trolling....
[12:09] <Arwen> VSpike, hah
[12:10] <Ray-> brendon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27867/ this is the interfaces
[12:11] <intelikey> router not set to dhcp ?
[12:11] <Ray-> and this when I tried to sudo ifconfig add
[12:11] <Ray-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27870/
[12:12] <Ray-> intelikey: no not dhcp :/
[12:12] <Ray-> I wanna make the internet works on the kubuntu :<
[12:13] <intelikey> so i don't know much about networking but if the router is not dhcp and the box is using all dhcp isn't that bound to fail ?
[12:13] <brendon> Ray-: I edit the file manually... never used ifconfig to add an address!
[12:14] <brendon> Ray-: you want "man interfaces" to get the format
[12:14] <Ray-> brendon: I tried the kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[12:14] <Ray-> but I dont know how to set it
[12:14] <Ray-> which interface to use what to change can you guide me guys?