[12:30] im getting this http://pastebin.ca/594400 [12:30] what is the reason for it? [12:32] omha: ignore it [12:32] it's crashing kiba-dock [12:33] http://pastebin.ca/594403 [12:33] omha: yes its crashing more than that, kiba-dock isnt supported so ther eisnt a thing you can do about it except rebuild it with fixing it [12:33] omha: it happens on alot of things [12:33] yea i been noticing that === Steck [n=Steck@c-24-12-49-58.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:33] but why? === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:34] compiled against a old version or something? === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frying_fish [n=frying_f@insouciant.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _Dave2_ [i=dave@about/goats/pdpc.supporter.student.Dave2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kill_X [i=kill_x@p54A17C41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dehm [n=dehm@207-172-84-121.c3-0.bth-ubr2.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dave2 [i=Dave2@about/goats/pdpc.supporter.student.Dave2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-3917fcd00b4be3d4] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d16-153.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-57-62.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-219-32-185.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dendrobate1 [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SEOmoz [n=SEOmoz@unaffiliated/seomoz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:03] HI all - am upgrading to Gutsy and was prompted about gnome/defaults.list config file.. Chose D to see differences, then Ctrl-Z to exit... How can I resume the upgrade, bg doesn't work - just gives [1] + sudo aptitude upgrade & (?) [02:05] fg === snax [n=snax@c-67-168-170-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:05] (Should bring aptitude back into the foreground, where you'll be able to interact with it) [02:06] RAOF: Thanks - seems to work... === `ph8 [i=henri@85.234.155.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:14] Darn all those "foreign" fonts - wish they weren't part of the ubuntu-desktop meta package :( === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-57-62.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-64-217-219-154.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ctkroeker [n=kroekerh@190.128.152.35] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:33] As of a few weeks ago gutsy didn't boot on the PS3. Anyone know if that's fixed in tribe 2? === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:40] lol jimp [02:40] that's really cool, what processor does the PS3 use? [02:41] Cell. Which is a (pretty slow) PowerPC processor + some coprocessors, essentially [02:41] Which is why the PowerPC version of Ubuntu can run on it :) [02:41] 3.2ghz isn't too slow in my book, but maybe i'm old. [02:42] jimp: Yeah, but it doesn't do much per cpu-cycle [02:43] (It's entirely possible to make a 10GHz processor which performs much, much worse than a current 2.0 GHz Core 2) [02:44] (one of) The reason(s) it can have such a high clockspeed is that it doesn't do a whole lot of stuff that regular CPUs do to speed up most code :) [02:44] The PPU does. The SPUs don't. [02:44] But anyway, whatever, I take it nobody knows the current state of ubuntu's ps3 port. I'll just give it a try. [02:44] The PPU (which is the PowerPC chip) still doesn't have out-of-order execution, etc. It's much simpler than a conventional CPU. [02:45] So stuff which is explicitly written for Cell can get trememndous performance, but stuff that isn't won't be able to use much of it's power :) [02:46] I'm writing code explicitly for cell, so that doesn't bother me. [02:46] Indeed. It's tremendously fast if you can use it properly :) === BHSPitLappy_ [n=steve-o@adsl-64-217-219-154.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitLappy_ is now known as BHSPitLappy === snax_ [n=snax@c-67-168-170-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:02] Nope, still busted. I wish my bug report about this hadn't just been closed, so people could actually know when it's fixed. [03:03] Which bug report? === rec53 [i=rec53@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] bug #120295 [03:04] Launchpad bug 120295 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Gusty livecd fails to boot on PS3" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120295 [03:05] odd: disabling 'nv' under restricted-modules does NOT disable nvidia-new. [03:06] DanaG, aren't they completely different drivers? o_O [03:06] I thought nv was the opensource Nvidia driver, and nvidia is the proprietary one [03:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/105756 [03:06] Launchpad bug 105756 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 "DISABLED_MODULES="nv" doesn't stop nvidia_new.ko from loading" [Undecided,New] === RAOF confirms that. === ctkroeker [n=kroekerh@190.128.152.35] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:11] I actually edited restricted-manager myself. [03:11] I did that even before I knew about that bug report. === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-232.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:29] Hi Ubuntites -- I'm having difficulty getting XGL to run on Gutsy... XSession report, something like "(process:7027): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid." and says I must create a helper program. Could anyone offer a tip on how to start XGL on Gutsy? (can pastebin current session script if needed) [03:29] That's a warning, not the error. [03:29] wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl still works. [03:33] RAOF: This is what I have, essentially (except I sleep 5 b4 staring dbus-launch)... (Method A) [03:33] ShackJack: So, do you have the "dbus-x11" package installed? === ShackJack checks... [03:34] No, doesn't seem to be... [03:34] Install that, and it'll work. [03:34] K- great thanks --- didn't see any other DBUS errors... [03:35] RAOF: Just curious - is this a new package for Gutsy? === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-57-62.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Praxx [n=Prakash@12.183.46.66] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:44] Guys does anyone know if " the gibbon" supports realtek high def audio codec? or would I have to wait for Gibbon+1 [03:45] Hi all - I managed to start up XGL in Gutsy, but when I try to enable Desktop Effects, returns error "failed to execute child process - gtk-window-decorator (no such file/directory)... Any thoughts on what package I might be missing (-f install, etc reveals no missing dependencies)? [03:46] I have been waiting since Dapper and have not found help. Too poor to buy another laptop and too stubborn to move to xp again [03:47] Praxx: Where's the bug report? [03:47] ShackJack: Yes, it's new for Gutsy. dbus-launch was split out of the main dbus packages, and into dbus-x11 === ShackJack is looking in Synaptic to see if he's missing necessary package to start desktop-effects... === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:52] RAOF, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/57065 [03:52] Launchpad bug 57065 in Ubuntu "No sound with nVidia High Definition Audio card (dup-of: 117246)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [03:52] Launchpad bug 117246 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Not work Audio device: "nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)"" [Medium,Confirmed] [03:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/117246 [03:54] hi - is anyone having problems suspending to RAM using g-p-m? In the latest gutsy, it doesn't work for me - though sudo pmi action sleep works [03:55] Praxx: Hm, neither of those bugs seem particularly well filed. However, you might want to try Gutsy and see. [03:56] RAOF, how does one make sure that the proper info is provided and the request is heard. There many threads filled with this issue and I wish I knew how to proceed [03:56] Praxx: * [03:57] Praxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems is a good start. You'll want to be running Gutsy, too (at least a LiveCD) [03:58] Also, threads on ubuntuforums really aren't very useful in fixing bugs. If it's not on Launchpad, it doesn't exist ;). [03:58] :O [03:58] ok. Fair enuff. Atleast now i know where to start [03:58] thanks mate [03:58] It's also probably an upstream bug in ALSA. [03:59] does that make it more complicated? [03:59] shud i file a bug with them too? [03:59] No, but it means that you might also want to check out the ALSA bugtracker. [03:59] The more work you do, the more likely the bug is to be fixed :) [04:00] ok. If this is the price I have to pay for freedom... I am fine with it. [04:00] thanks mate [04:01] Gibbon is my friend now :D === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-64-217-219-154.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:01] one question: I know it is kinda late but if proper info i provided .. is there a remote change that someone might look into this before gibbon is released [04:01] ? [04:02] Oh, a pretty good one. [04:02] But it's kinda dependent on you (or another tester) doing some of the work :) [04:02] ooh [04:02] well.. I will start with a bug report. then lets see. [04:02] thanks mate [04:03] salut! [04:03] NP === ushineko [n=nverenin@cpe-75-80-147-91.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === luisbg [n=d33p@247.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #ubuntu+1 [""Atari""] [04:14] I'm having problems with gnome-power-manager in Gutsy - if I try to suspend my MacBook nothing happens. Using the pmi command works fine. Anyone have any idea on what is wrong here? [04:16] thully: Is there a bug filed on launchpad? You might want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend [04:17] OK - I'll check that. I do know that it's the userland software at fault, though - as I can suspend with pmi action sleep [04:20] Hm. Well, maybe just check out the bugs on gnome-power-manager then. If there isn't one already, file one. [04:24] OK - I guess I'll do that === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-57-62.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:40] .me leaves === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d16-153.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["byeeeeee] === cables [n=caleb@216-15-119-176.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:47] The Tribe 2 link on ubuntu.com/testing isn't working, it's going to an admin.ubuntu.com site and asking for a password. [04:48] cables: try cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-2 [04:48] thully, thanks [04:56] cables: erk === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:56] cables: now, i'm sure i shouldnt SMS the person responsible yet, as its' 5am [04:57] Hobbsee, it's weird, there was a similar problem w/ Tribe 1 [04:57] or at least I remember there being one... [04:57] cables: yeah...just seen that. === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-165-173-58.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@72.241.32.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:17] Has Tribe 2 been officially released? Thanks. [05:17] hansin321: yes [05:17] Hobbsee: Thanks, time to upgrade... [05:18] good luck! === makuseru [n=max@210.113.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-4c88c8c6d25f9cda] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-166-231-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] So where are these ff3 packages? :P [05:31] in gutsy [05:31] firefox-granparadiso [05:32] ah, I don't know how I missed that, haha [05:32] thanks =) === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frying_fish_ [n=frying_f@insouciant.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frying_fish__ [n=frying_f@insouciant.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15E227.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === graft [n=graft@c-65-96-163-59.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:31] hiya - whenever i try to run aumix it says: aumix: SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK [06:31] and doesn't start [06:31] any idea what's up? === RAOF suggests that you might want to pastebin the full terminal output. That doesn't look like an error :) [06:33] that's it [06:34] it doesn't look like an error to me, either, but that's what i got [06:34] Mmm, file a bug(tm)? [06:34] yargh [06:39] hrm... any particular reason there are localization files for aumix in 18 languages but not english? [06:41] :) [06:43] damnit... this bug is so annoying === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eobanb [n=eoban@12.106.250.121] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crackerbox [n=anon4324@74-135-34-212.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:14] hey guys [07:14] i think i need words of wisdom from a pro... === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.164.208.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:15] anyone familure with reconfiguring casper for use with a custom Live environment? === jimp [n=jim@NEUROSIS.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu+1 === oxxa [n=axxo@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p5B15E227.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === phin [n=mcgee@d192-24-200-142.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === oxxa_ [n=axxo@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15E227.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rec53 [i=rec53@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === oxxa [n=axxo@gentoo/developer/axxo] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mat|work [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-166-231-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pumpernickle [n=Pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mat|work_ [n=mat@ds9-externe.orbus.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rec53 [i=rec53@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:43] hi any gutsy users here? [07:43] yes [07:43] !ask [07:43] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [07:43] i am running it and the Xorg seems to freeze randomly requring a hard reset with holding power button [07:43] any ideas about this? [07:43] anyone familure with reconfiguring casper for use with a custom Live environment? [07:44] tried both nv and nvidia drivers by the way [07:44] crackerbox: download the casper source and have a look [07:44] siimo: i wonder if it happens with the new xorg [07:45] Hobbsee: i am dist-upgraded from 18 hrs ago [07:45] not sure if the new xorg stuff is even loaded yet. the mesa stuff is [07:45] anything interesting in syslog, the usual logs? [07:46] no i am not mesa patched as i se those updates now [07:46] hobbsee: casper's hooks are where i could allow my custom LiveCD to automatically use the propriatary driver that i installed while i was chroot'ed into my squashFS? [07:47] crackerbox: i'm not sure. i've only touched casper once [07:47] not that i can see Hobbsee [07:48] siimo: weird. === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@a89-182-133-18.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:48] maybe my chipset has bugs in kernel 2.6.22 :| but i recompiled 2.6.21 and still same issue so it isnt kernel related [07:53] any suggestions dude [07:54] nope === AlienX [n=theanswr@unaffiliated/alienx] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:56] i guess just keep dist upgrading and looking for fix === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:59] @ tride 2.. i thought i'd be more stable than random X lockups :P [08:00] isn't stable = boring [08:01] yeah but hard reset every 10 mins due to lockup = annoying [08:02] siimo: do you have compiz enabled? [08:02] these releases arent stable. they're snapshots [08:03] Hobbsee: no compiz just plain old XFCE envrionment [08:03] ah [08:05] im also getting this error upon chrooting into the ubuntu id: cannot find name for group ID 11 === KurtKraut [n=KurtKrau@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has joined #ubuntu+1 === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FEF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === siimo__ [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:21] Hobbsee: i ran the test again.. its strange X stops after exactly 5 mins from reboot every time [08:21] that's weird [08:21] Jun 29 18:17:01 Sempron /USR/SBIN/CRON[3105] : (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) [08:21] that was in my syslog when it died [08:22] is there anything interesting running in cron? [08:22] only built in stuff by ubuntu i havent touched cron yet [08:23] i will try turning cron off === Pumpernickle is now known as Pumpernickel === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:54] argh-ness: my terminals are blank when I use vga=anything -- still! [08:55] erk. [08:55] found out why yet? [08:57] nope. [08:57] I think some time I'll try compiling a custom kernel and messing with the config. [08:57] Is there an easy way to pull a kernel tree with all ubuntu patches already installed? [08:58] Oh yeah, another thing: suspend broke for me. Even if I stop gdm and unload nvidia, my system will freeze on resume. [09:00] what does everyone think about including an option to install the GtkGLExt Python bindings from within the Chess program? maybe only if you're an administrator === wfarr_ [n=wfarr@adsl-61-114-88.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:05] Well, at the very least, it should give a package name. [09:05] I am pretty savvy, yet I still didn't know what to look for. [09:06] libgtkgl-python? [09:06] It turned out to be python-something-or-other -- python is in front. [09:07] Argh, how can I build iwlwifi? [09:08] Linux-headers doesn't have everything iwlwifi needs -- but I really don't want to have to install the full source. === snax [n=snax@c-67-168-170-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vega- [n=mikko@lotus.puolikuu.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === oxxa_ is now known as oxxa === mahtavamatt88 [n=mahtavam@203.129.53.196] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:15] isn't rhythmbox supposed to auto-install codecs like totem does? [09:16] I think I'll just end up trying my own kernel some time. === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-154-122-82.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:17] cyphase: grab ubuntu-restricted-extras [09:18] Hobbsee: i already have all my codecs installed.. [09:18] ah right [09:18] no idea [09:18] Hobbsee: i'm just playing with tribe 2, and i thought that even in feisty, rhythmbox was supposed to be able to auto-install codecs like totem [09:20] ahh. no idea, i dotn run gnome === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-165-173-58.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dufrp [n=paul@ip-66-254-43-51.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:27] just installed kubuntu gutsy (32 bits), using pppoeconf, Internet seems to work fine, but konqueror always report 'Could not connect to host ...', known issue? === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:31] well, just installed firefox and it works, should be able to find answer myself now === kjw75 [n=kjw@198.169.119.200] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:32] is gutsy fairly stable or is it just a mess to run? [09:33] ehh.. fairly stable [09:33] for an early alpha release === T-Connect [n=chatzill@adsl-65-68-206-97.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:33] kjw75: dont run it on production machiens, and we're about to go thru another X transition [09:33] Anyone having a problem with NTFS? [09:34] ok, I can't get my wireless laptop card to work in feisty, but read a post that said the gutsy kernel works with it, so am wondering whether I should nuke feisty and go for gutsy [09:34] what you mean by X transition? [09:34] kjw75: other things break. including network manager [09:34] kjw75: newer version of X and libs. [09:35] nfts-3g version 1:1.328-1 seem screwup here. I download it from Synaptic Package Manager. It won't let me unmount [09:35] ok, any way to use the gutsy kernel with feisty, I read that someone got their wireless working by backporting the gutsy kernel to feisty, but I'm not really sure what that means [09:35] I get a message with red dot. [09:36] T-Connect: i suggest you contact the makers of ntfs-3g [09:37] So yu know about that problem? [09:37] no [09:37] i dont use ntfs-3g [09:37] Ok [09:38] Anything cool on Gutsy? [09:39] any ideas on my last question, I'm starting to fall asleep here, so if not, I will go to bed :) [09:40] compiz stuff, etc. [09:40] kjw75: you dont want to do it. [09:40] kjw75: you have to recompile the kernel for feisty, etc [09:40] ok, thanks :) === T-Connect [n=chatzill@adsl-65-68-206-97.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [09:41] well g'night all and thanks for the help! === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === acuster [n=acuster@AToulouse-256-1-9-186.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mahtavamatt88 [n=mahtavam@121.127.194.100] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === humbolto [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mkuzu [n=mkuzu@81.214.130.248] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dwa [n=duwial@hq.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ph8 [i=henri@85.234.155.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mkuzu [n=mkuzu@81.214.130.248] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mkuzu [n=mkuzu@81.214.130.248] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@11.73-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-21-244.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mkuzu [n=mkuzu@81.214.130.248] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === Nicke_ [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jjchico [n=jjchico@valhalla.dte.us.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.164.208.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === b9 [n=anders@195.184.122.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:56] hi all. Just a quick question - what is the cleanest way to upgrade to gutsy from fesity? (without re-installing from cd that is...) [10:57] dist upgrade... [10:58] just changes my sources to gutsy and thenupgrade? [10:59] ys [10:59] *yes [10:59] cheers === thedonvaughn [n=jayson@unaffiliated/printk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Eruantalon [n=hans@5634185c.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === b9 [n=anders@195.184.122.26] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.164.208.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:27] Hi i install Tribe2 and around about ~5 mins into starting it up the X session just locks up really bad and needs to be rebooted [11:27] any ideas for fixing? === Seeker` [n=cjo20@85-211-203-183.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ench0 [n=encho_@86.43.214.95] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === eMaX_ [n=emax@29.16.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DreamThi1f [n=mathias@gateway.3vilh4x0r.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sky_walki [i=czzhrd02@xdsl-563.lodz.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sky_walkie [i=czzhrd02@xdsl-563.lodz.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:24] hi there , any experience with ubuntu gutsy + vmware ? I can't even boot to GUI to start the installation, any way how to disable compiz adding some boot aprms ?? === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thomax__ [n=thomas@217-148-245-60.happymany.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-233-14.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === napsy_ [n=luka@BSN-77-126-125.static.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:48] Will gutsy have x.org 7.3? === alberto [n=alberto@45.Red-83-55-8.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:53] hi [12:53] napsy_: yes [12:53] if I want to upgrade to feisty [12:53] ok [12:54] alberto: feisty support is in #ubuntu [12:54] changing feisty with gutsy in /etc/apt/sources-lit and dist-upgrade [12:54] is enought? [12:54] oh [12:54] alberto: you really should wait [12:54] wait why? [12:54] gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' [12:54] alberto: why becasue its no where near stable [12:54] I did update-manager d and it only upgrade my feisty system [12:55] gnomefreak: I dont care, I am debian user since potato, and using sid for years [12:55] gnomefreak: I dont care about stable or not [12:55] hehe [12:55] I would like to take a look to gutsy just that [12:55] gutsy is really nothing like sid [12:56] sid == always unstable gutsy == will be stable in 4 months [12:56] I now, so what? [12:56] I want to report bugs [12:56] and use gutsy [12:57] why you are trying me to stop that? [12:57] I dont understand [12:57] alberto: read the topic [12:58] I told you, I were using sid for years [12:58] so, dont you think I am familiarized with dpkg? [12:58] xD [12:59] alberto: see your question above to answer that question but please feel free to upgrade all you want, but let it be known alot of users cant boot to gutsy [12:59] cant boot? [12:59] thats absurd [12:59] xD [01:00] alberto: no its not since there are kernel issues === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:00] alberto: i think IMHO you need to stick with stable since you think that it will always boot and that its aburd that people cant [01:00] gnomefreak: are you using gutsy? [01:01] alberto: yes i have to [01:01] Let me try [01:01] ok, and I WANT TO [01:01] ok? [01:01] alberto: i said do as you wish [01:01] i was warning you [01:01] :-) [01:01] dont care for me [01:01] indeed if there are problems, I can help [01:02] what about reporting bugs and helping to the dev community? [01:02] I am really getting surprised about what you wrote [01:02] dont you want people to help? ... [01:03] alberto: its not ready for testing outside of devel. but do as you wish [01:03] beta == ready for wider testing [01:03] well, I told I was using sid for YEARS [01:03] what is the problem? [01:03] alberto: btw you know dpkg you should know how to upgrade. again sid is nothing like gutsy sid is stable compared to gutsy [01:04] in sid I found dependencies problems for years, and I fixed it by my own, and helped debian people [01:04] alberto: but go ahead upgrade using command Amaranth gave you [01:04] I just wanted to do the same here [01:04] sid is not testint [01:04] is UNSTABLE [01:04] indeed I used experimental too [01:04] alberto: i didnt say sid was testing [01:04] man.. I only want to help you [01:05] so stop advertising me [01:05] I know what kind of problems I'll find [01:06] hehe, yeah [01:06] Amaranth: ;) we know [01:06] gnomefreak: it doesnt run too badly, if hte user is actually going to file bugs [01:06] excluding compiz, maybe [01:06] yes, I used to change /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade just [01:06] Hobbsee: hey! [01:06] hiya Amaranth [01:06] compiz is fine :) === Hobbsee hugs KDE [01:07] what is the different with the upgrade manager? [01:07] except when it hides my windows, and i can never find how ot get them back. [01:07] alberto: you didnt read what Amaranth gave you [01:07] yes, I did [01:07] alberto: its safer [01:07] Hobbsee: don't start compiz with minimized windows === gnomefreak all kinds of pissed at compiz ty [01:07] Amaranth: no, these are windows that i've minimised while in compiz [01:07] Hobbsee: i haven't seen that happen since 0.3.6 [01:08] then again you're probably talking about KDE apps [01:08] Amaranth: no, i was running the tribe 2 ubuntu live cd [01:08] seeing as compiz-kde doesnt exist much yet [01:08] interesting === gnomefreak really thinks we should have waited for Xorg to be in place and done before setting compiz as default [01:08] gnomefreak: what do you mean? [01:08] Amaranth: it doesnt work :) [01:08] what doesn't work? [01:09] Amaranth: crashes during log in when you go to change to it you lose boarders still [01:09] you can't just complain, i need reproducible problems with lots of details, you know better :) [01:09] oh, that [01:09] Amaranth: i have bug reports on all of them and mvo knows of them === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:09] that was a bug in expo fixed before tribe-2 [01:10] Amaranth: i can fix it with xorg.conf but i shouldnt have to if its gonna be default since xorg.conf is leaving anyway [01:10] gnomefreak: mvo doesn't know how compiz works ;) [01:10] what change to xorg.conf did you make [01:10] dude you're being annoying vague [01:10] he seems to be working on it enough (unless hes just packaging) [01:11] update-manager seems to download something that will guide me around the upgrading prcess but then when download is finished, I can see any app :-) [01:11] Amaranth: i havent i gave up on compiz due to another gnome-appearance issue [01:11] Amaranth: i went through this for 2 days in devel and -bugs [01:11] gnomefreak: i give up on you [01:11] :) [01:11] you are no longer allowed to complain [01:12] Amaranth: im not [01:12] i said it shouldnt be default until these items are fixed [01:13] what shouldnt be default? === napsy_ [n=luka@BSN-77-126-125.static.dsl.siol.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [01:14] alberto: compiz [01:19] it should be default but IMHO its too close to merge for a seemless upgrade. but thats opinion [01:20] brb [01:20] too close to merge? [01:21] what merge? === digitalpardoe [n=digitalp@212-139-17-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linux_user400354 [n=chris@208-117-26-76.block5.gvtc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-5-91.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yemu [n=yemu@chello084010235073.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Seeker` [n=cjo20@85-211-203-183.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === mikkael [n=michael@p54B087F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linux_user400354 [n=chris@208-117-26-76.block5.gvtc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yemu [n=yemu@chello084010235073.chello.pl] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B087F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B087F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:18] someone here using kubuntu gutsy ? === Hobbsee nods [02:19] if you have spare 2 mins: can you confirm this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-tweak/+bug/123036 [02:19] Launchpad bug 123036 in kde-tweak "no menu entry or kcontrol module for tweak" [Undecided,New] === MacSlow [i=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Quitte"] === mat|work [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-76-198.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === omha [n=hhh@83.73.217.165.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebastian [n=sb@p50884A76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B087F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === ash211 [n=andrew@adsl-074-184-018-011.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@pool-72-93-120-140.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === os2mac [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] Hi Gibbons! I'm running GG with XGL/fglrx (woe is me!). I have XGL running but when I go to Appearance and check Desktop Effects, the decorations blink and I get a dialog simply saying "Desktop effects could not be enabled"... Starting appearance prefs from C/L indicates it might have a problem with texture_from_pixmap not being available... ANy suggestions? [03:15] (XGL/Compiz working on prior Feisty install) [03:16] Aha! [03:16] Hi xgl/fglrx buddy. [03:17] I too have the same issue, I kinda came up with a workaround. [03:17] Pici: Oooh I love workarounds - lets hear it :) [03:17] Workarounds, FTW!!! [03:19] I setup a script that runs when I login to gnome that contains the following line: [03:19] LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --sm-disable --replace ccp & [03:19] The compiz wrapper script doesnt appear to handle xgl too well. [03:20] Ahh... so make script and add to sessions - I remember having to do that with XGL in the past but it became no longer necessary... [03:20] Pici: Thank's a bunch - will try it out! === Sebastian [n=sb@p50884A76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:22] Pici: THat all on one line or newline where compiz.real... starts? [03:22] One line [03:22] Ah O.K. trying now... === ShackJack [n=nate@pool-72-93-120-140.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:29] Pici: Alas that did not work for me... Made script, put in /usr/bin, chmodded and added to Startup proggies. First attempt no deco, second metacity and same results on gnome-appearance... [03:29] hmm [03:30] Pici: I cut n' pasted what you sent... It still compains about texture_from_pixmap... Friggin' fglrx!!! [03:31] XGL definately seems to be running as it should, I can pastebin my XGL startup if it's helpful... [03:31] hmm [03:32] I'll upload my configs... === ShackJack double checking his startup script... === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@11.73-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:33] Pici: Which card you running (out of curiosity)? [03:34] Well, Gutsy is running really great otherwise at this early stage... no errors to report and upgrade to Fiesty was smooth - I reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop meta package before installing.... === Derevko [n=giuseppe@sd6.iuculano.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:37] ShackJack: ATI x1400 (its a laptop) [03:37] http://nullcortex.com/code/compiz/ [03:38] compiz2 is just something I was playing with, seeing if I could fix the wraper script [03:38] Pici: ATI X1400 - Me too! [03:38] :) [03:38] compiz2 might work, I cant remember if I fixed it or not properly [03:39] Pici: Yeah, it would be cool if us poor fglrx'ers weren't left out in the cold (either by adjust gutsy or fixing the fglrx driver to support AIGLX) [03:39] Everything works except for the Cube Reflect compiz plugin, I'm not sure whats wrong with that yet though. === ikonia [n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:41] Pici: My cube reflect is busted too, but on my Feisty/Nvidia desktop... [03:41] oh, good [03:41] Pici: (so you're not crazy ;))... Your startxgl is pretty much exactly like mine... === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:42] I'm just glad I found someone else who has the same problems as I [03:42] Pici: I did have a sleep 5 after the DISPLAY, but I guess you found you don't need that anymore? [03:42] ShackJack: I saw two examples that had the same code except for that, I didnt think taking it out would affect anything [03:42] and it didnt === SEOmoz [n=SEOmoz@unaffiliated/seomoz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:46] Pici: I see you have two "Device" sections in your Xorg for the card? === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:49] ShackJack: I'm not sure why its like that. The only thing I can think of is vga out. [03:49] I didnt want to play with it once it started working. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:54] Pici: Now I'm guessing once you had the compiz script n place, you didn't actually have to go to desktop effects to start it... === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow [i=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:02] ShackJack: Yeah, I havent touched that. === void^ [n=void@p3EE01518.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-154-122-82.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@pool-72-93-120-140.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:36] Pici: Hi - just reporting back, not having any luck starting my XGL/fglrx with Compiz... If anyone knows a way to start Compiz/XGL (I have XGL loading, it seems) with Gutsy, I would appreciate any guidance you can offer... === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sayers [n=sayers@76.20.133.246] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:48] Hello, I am getting an error with xorg saying it can't find any screens. === lamalex [n=root@c-71-225-106-125.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:56] any reported issues with the installer on the tribe 2 cd? === _dennis_ [n=dennis@78-20-178-105.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:58] lamalex: yes. mostly on the "known issues" page, which was a) on the release announcement, and b) on the links about what's new === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FEF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:03] known issues page where? Did not see a link on the release announcement === kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.160.219] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:09] join #kernel === slimz [n=slimz@209.167.30.186] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:10] lamalex: what was the issue? [05:12] installer locks up when starting to format partition [05:12] hey guys when i open a terminal window on a newly install gutsy, it shows this ; http://pastebin.ca/595476 [05:13] I click the 'format' box or set a mount point of / which then checks the format box for me, and the gui crashes [05:13] only way out is to xkil it [05:14] i'm sure kill -9 in terminal would work to but youget the idea === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:16] lamalex: interesting...i'd report that, and attach the relevant ubiquity logs [05:16] will do, that's why I was checking first to see if you had heard anything [05:18] we know about the manual partitioning being broken (partitioner takes forever to come up) [05:18] was that with compiz or metacity? === Hobbsee wonders if it happens if you run sudo ubiquity [05:19] yah i just tried that [05:19] er should say, am trying that [05:19] :) [05:21] appears to [05:21] where does ubiquity keeps its logs, all I see is version [05:26] hmm on second try it does not, at least not yet [05:27] lamalex: does not what? does not crash? [05:27] does not crash when run as root [05:28] you're running as root anyway [05:29] when run with sudo === Dannilion wonders how the Windows Welcome Music ended up in her playlist [05:29] lamalex: okay, can you file a bug about that, attach the logs as shown in https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645 and say that it's only reproducible with gksudo, not sudo? [05:29] Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitely" [High,Confirmed] [05:30] what's the current recommended way of getting the nvidia driver? [05:30] thanks hobbsee :) [05:31] lamalex: i think you'll find that if you run "gksudo ubiquity" you'll find it crashes again. if you could try, and mention the results on the bug, that would be great === emonkey-p [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:31] yes, I tried that, thats when I said "appears to" but then I tried with sudo [05:31] and I will file a detailed report, no worries [05:32] I piped the installer output of both to a file so I'll look through for anything interesting === ShackJack [n=nate@pool-72-93-120-140.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:44] lamalex: i *think* i'ts a bug in gksudo vs sudo - that's what that manual partiton hanging indefinetly came back to, on my system === Hobbsee was testing it earlier [05:44] didn't they make some changes to sudo? === gortiz [n=gortiz@88.87.105.4] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:45] I thought I read that they were making changes to sudo that could break gksudo === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-87-29.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DrColossus [n=blah@220.245.194.197] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-166-231-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:02] no idea. i dont run gnome [06:06] gotcha === IdleOne [n=idleone@unaffiliated/idleone] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] lamalex, now sudo prints [sudo] password for user: [06:12] yeah [06:12] it's nice [06:12] but that didn't break gksudo before, i think they changed something else === acuster [n=acuster@AToulouse-256-1-9-186.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masquerade [n=mirashii@c-71-200-27-82.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ph8 [i=henri@85.234.155.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:22] anyone had any trouble with gutsy wanting to randomly suspend on laptops in the past few days? [06:23] nope [06:23] nope === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SEOmoz [n=SEOmoz@unaffiliated/seomoz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@adsl-6-126-12.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SEOmoz [n=SEOmoz@unaffiliated/seomoz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mirak [n=mirak@m60.net81-64-221.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === acuster [n=acuster@AToulouse-256-1-9-186.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Danni [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frsk [i=skolmli@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jean1 [n=jeang@dsl-244-141-212.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jean1 [n=jeang@dsl-244-141-212.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 === serAphim [n=seraphim@e179128010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DrColossus [n=blah@220.245.194.197] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === edgy [n=edgy@89.5.87.109] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-233-191.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:49] uuuu firefox 3 alpha is in universe... *downloads* [07:50] PriceChild: yep [07:50] it might be removed before release but its there during alphas [07:50] <3bloat [07:51] *tries to see something new* === gnomefreak trying to get past the sunbird crap atm [07:51] ah started old firefox by mistake then [07:51] maybe have that uploaded monday [07:51] very nic [07:51] PriceChild: close firefox first [07:51] gnomefreak, hehe yeah [07:51] :) [07:51] hmm still hasn't loaded.... === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:53] it still looks like old firefox... [07:53] is it supposed to look drastically different? [07:53] PriceChild: does it say granparadiso on top? [07:53] lamalex: no [07:53] right its definitely gran paradiso... [07:53] I didn't think so, I was playing with it earlier today a little bit [07:54] I really, REALLY don't see anything new... [07:54] whatsoever... [07:54] is it faster? [07:54] *mvs .firefox and restarts* [07:55] PriceChild: its all engine related atm other than airbag but we didnt build for airbag [07:55] gnomefreak: are you a mozilla dev as well as fedora? [07:55] airbag? [07:55] lamalex: no im a ubuntu-mozilla devel atm [07:55] PriceChild: mozillas crash reoprting tool [07:55] rgr [07:56] ahh === gnomefreak needs to find something other than sunbird to work on :( [07:58] brb while i wait for FTB again [08:00] Why does it deserve a 2.0 -> 3.0 bump though... [08:02] PriceChild: new engine === Vorbote [n=vorbote@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:02] meh [08:02] iirc its on 1.9 not 1.8.3 [08:02] its not new though is it? [08:03] isn't it just a big improvement over old? [08:04] they say it is i havent looked at it since 2.0 beta* === jshaffer [n=john@tx-71-48-164-128.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu+1 === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has left #ubuntu+1 [""] === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-18-214-21.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:12] is compiz-fusion still called desktop effects? === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@a89-182-23-30.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@pcp021409pcs.dhcp.calpoly.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === obsethryl [n=cball@athedsl-109234.home.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:21] corevette: it is [08:21] but the location moved [08:21] it's inside appearence === Nicke [n=niclasa@h161n2fls31o808.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-dcf136413f9656d9] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RainCT [n=RainCT@212-166-160-51.red-acceso.airtel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === serAphim__ [n=seraphim@e179143048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:46] /me is too elite. === r00tintheb0x is too elite. === omha is too elite that i need to copy/paste /me is too elite === Zdra [n=zdra@237.32-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorbote [n=vorbote@unaffiliated/vorbote] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Ronald|laptop [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === roe_ [n=roe@216-164-160-36.c3-0.eas-ubr10.atw-eas.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === clouder`grr [n=clouder@cpe-24-174-204-170.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === atreju [n=atreju@87.239.96.129] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === RainCT [n=RainCT@212-166-160-51.red-acceso.airtel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === RonaldH [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === edgy_ [n=edgy@89.5.68.41] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vega- [n=mikko@lotus.puolikuu.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Praxx [n=Prakash@12.183.46.66] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kill_X [i=kill_x@p54A15CDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:56] guys. The latest release of gutsy is hanging once i try to partition the hd. i cannot find any bugs on it. How can i make sure this is not an isolated issue be4 filing a report [09:57] I read earlier today in here that others are having the same problem [09:58] ok [09:58] then how to I track this or report this [09:58] i cant find much on launchpad [09:58] that bit I don't know :) === Dannilion hunts for experts === edgy_ [n=edgy@89.5.68.41] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-21-244.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:16] I still don't get why S3 suspend suddenly stopped working with 2.6.22. === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:19] uhm in which folder are the gnome-panel settings stored? [10:20] anyone familiar with vnc? I think I found a bug, but not sure... seems the new vncviewer can't allow vnc servers that run with RDP version 3.3 to connect to a vncviewer -listen which is expecting version 3.8 [10:24] DanaG: maybe it overwrote some settings in the acpi-support config file without asking you? [10:24] If I boot the Feisty kernel, suspend works. [10:24] It also may be related to the "all TTYs are blank if I use vga=anything" bug. === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:30] lucasvo: .gconf dig through and you'll find it... you sould also use gconf-editor [10:31] DanaG: whew, I thought that vga thing was just me... stupid b00gers [10:31] where I can report broken things in gutsy? [10:32] launchpad would be a good place ;) === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thom@ip70-187-219-43.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thom@ip70-187-219-43.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === SEOmoz [n=SEOmoz@unaffiliated/seomoz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@12.19.132.227] has joined #ubuntu+1 === karmue [n=karli@e178169073.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:47] How can I get gnome-screensaver to run things niced? === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:52] dunno...I think gnome-screensaver sucks because of it's missing the option to configure the screensavers :P === linxeh [n=linx@87.86.206.82] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:55] Same here. [10:56] Oh, and for some reason, my login doesn't start a window manager. === atreju [n=atreju@87.239.96.129] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [10:56] is CFS in the gutsy kernel (I never took a look yet as the box I have it on is having serious heat troubles with the gutsy kernel) [10:58] cfs? [10:58] scheduler [10:58] (I remember seeing it was the first patch added as part of testing the new kernel build thing dunno whether it was subsequently dropped) [10:59] cpu scheduler (qualify it a bit) [10:59] I don't see any cfs in /boot/config-2.6.22-7-generic [10:59] grep -i CFS /boot/config-2.6.22-7-generic : CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS=y CONFIG_OCFS2_DEBUG_MASKLOG=y CONFIG_OCFS2_FS=m CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PROCFS=y [10:59] nothing scheduler. === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@72.241.32.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.30] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:03] sched.c is where you will find it [11:09] I don't have the Ubuntu sources installed. [11:09] I'm currently compiling a custom kernel, for the sake of hopefully fixing suspend and/or consoles/ [11:09] . === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:11] anyone else having problem on HARD lockups about 4-5 mins into booting the Ape ? seems X related === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.30] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === serAphim__ [n=seraphim@e179135201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-a6cf3a71160da8c3] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:30] Wow, somehow I managed to get the make-kpkg thingy to segfault. [11:32] DanaG: I also get the blank screen on vga=XXX bug. I like to unset the splash screen and set the vga/framebuffer value because I like that output better than the splash sceen. Which brings up a point I have, the splash screen could use some aesthetic help, but as I don't have the skill I am not going to complain (I just think is look just so-so). [11:33] But I imagine boot sequence is something that is always being worked on... [11:34] Oddly, even without splash, vga= still causes blank terminals. [11:34] no lockips for you guys tho? [11:34] :[ [11:35] DanaG: I know. That is how I do it. I thought maybe they were getting rid of the output or something. Maybe a framebuffer issue?? [11:37] siimo: I get some app crashes, but never yet fully locked up. When I shutdown, the X server gives me some multi-colored weirdness before finally shuting down. [11:37] Compiz issues are a big one, but I think that is already known... [11:37] me dont run compiz === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:42] Well, big issue for me. Sounds like you have other things going as well. Alpha software, bound to happen. [11:42] oopsie, hit a wrong key. === Netham45 [n=n@c-67-190-103-57.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:45] anyone know an IM client that does webcams that works over Linux(Ubuntu) and Windows? [11:48] Netham45, amsn is an msn client that supposedly works well with the windows msn client in terms of video chat. [11:57] !webcam [11:57] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras === masquerade [n=mirashii@c-71-200-27-82.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:02] woot got my Fiber connection yesterday o_o === Netham45 is now known as NetGone === dotpavan [n=pavan@d00-129-24-143-178.dhcp.unm.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:07] What the heck? make-kpkg is segfaulting on me. [12:07] INSTALL sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko [12:07] mkdir: `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22-rc6/debian/linux-image-2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/lib/modules/2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/kernel/sound/usb': Not a directory [12:07] cp: accessing `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22-rc6/debian/linux-image-2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/lib/modules/2.6.22-rc6-ragnarok1/kernel/sound/usb': Not a directory [12:07] Kopete works too [12:08] For some reason, the "sound" dir is empty! [12:08] and because my scrollback is gone for some reason, I can't figure out why. [12:09] ====== making stamp-arch-conf because of ====== [12:09] make: *** [stamp-arch-conf] Error 1 === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mod_Man [n=mod@pool-71-254-118-161.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:17] has anyone had a problem with the update that was released today === Khawn_ [n=sam@68.147.104.248] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Khawn [n=sam@68.147.104.248] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frsk [i=skolmli@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has left #ubuntu+1 ["]