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asacok night12:58
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gnomefreakok preview archive is back up and running stron11:48
gnomefreak+g11:49
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xlphi12:04
gnomefreakxlp: you can get a working gnash just give me a moment12:04
xlpwell i installed some gnash off of add/remove12:04
gnomefreakxlp: its not a good working version12:05
xlpuninstalling lol12:05
gnomefreakxlp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives?highlight=%28CategoryMozillaTeam%29  go to the bottom of that page and get it or add the feisty repos there and you will get it and a bunch of other upgrades including ff tb and so on12:06
xlpfeisty repos?12:06
gnomefreakgo to that link they are there.12:06
gnomefreakxlp: we have mozilla testing repos we test for a few reasons most of the packages are stable (havent failed for me or others in a while) but i did just upload new -trunk :(12:07
gnomefreakbrb need coffee and smoke. taking a break from troll aptrol12:08
gnomefreakpatrol*12:08
xlphmm12:09
xlpsays error: dependency is not satisfiable: libgnash012:09
xlpwait got it i think12:10
xlplol12:14
xlpyeah adobe needs to release flash for linux because gnash and youtube dont work together12:14
xlpthe volume slider, screen options, and timer are all bunched up ontop of each other with no sound =/12:15
gnomefreakyes they do, just not all videos work with it, im leaning towards its the way they are made or version of flash made with12:15
gnomefreakxlp: thats a known bug12:16
xlpso, unless adobe releases 64bit flash, wait until a new gnash update is out?12:16
gnomefreakxlp: there will be alot of improvments in gutsy12:19
gnomefreakxlp: we are looking to beable to run 32bit apps like flash and java on 64bit system12:20
gnomefreakzlake sure you grabbed mozilla-gnash-plugin btw12:20
gnomefreakxlp: make sure ^^^12:21
xlpyeah12:21
gnomefreakasac: you around?12:21
xlpi grabbed mozilla plugin, libgnash, gnash 0.8.0 and gnash cygnal12:21
asacgnomefreak: yes12:21
gnomefreakxlp: that should play most of them12:22
xlpthey play, no sound12:22
asacyou probably have the old gnash12:22
asacare you on feisty?12:22
gnomefreakasac: good morning, did you find out about the failure of 64 on nspluginwrapper12:22
asacgnomefreak: yes ... its in manual exception list12:22
gnomefreakasac: he gt it from you12:22
gnomefreakasac: cool12:22
asacunfortunately we (ubuntu admins) don't have the power to change that12:22
asacas we derive it from debian directly12:22
xlpim on 7.04 64bit12:22
gnomefreakasac: is that somehting once tested we add for feisty?12:23
asacso i have to wait till a debian admin comes around to build it on amd6412:23
asac:(12:23
gnomefreakack12:23
asacxlp: so which packages do you use?12:23
gnomefreakdebian admin?12:23
asacgnomefreak: yes ... happily they are employed by canonical :)12:23
gnomefreak:)12:23
gnomefreakdamn12:23
asacso hopefully we get something better than the usual 6 weeks response time12:23
xlpi installed: gnash-cygnal 0.8.0, gnash 0.8.0 cvs, libgnash 0.8.0, and mozilla-plugin gnash 0.8.012:24
gnomefreakcan only hope.12:24
xlphttp://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/gnash-feisty/12:24
asacok12:24
asaccan you paste console output of firefox run please?12:24
gnomefreakthere are some videos that dont play (that we know about)12:24
gnomefreakjust not sure why12:24
xlpim doing a review on ubuntu (latest craze) and i just need to bare essentials working lol12:24
xlphow? lol12:25
gnomefreaki hate filing bugs :(12:25
asacxlp: start firefox from console like:12:25
asac # firefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/firefox.log12:25
asacthen push that somewhere12:25
asacafter gnash failed12:25
gnomefreakbtw LP sucks :(12:25
xlp# firefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/firefox.log in terminal?12:25
asacgnomefreak: how is that news :)12:25
asacxlp: yes12:26
gnomefreaktrue12:26
gnomefreakall evening i tried getting my "maintained packages" on my LP but they seem to be everywhere but on my Lp page12:26
xlptyped that, didnt do anything12:26
gnomefreakxlp: the # is root console12:26
asacgnomefreak: no12:27
gnomefreakyou dont type that part12:27
gnomefreakoh?12:27
asacah right :)12:27
gnomefreak# isnt a command12:27
asacno its the prompt12:27
asac:)12:27
asacyeah12:27
gnomefreak$?12:27
asacif you type that ... shell asumes the line is a comment12:27
asacgnomefreak: # can be root prompt12:27
asacmight be default for ubuntu12:27
asacbut its not for me12:27
asaci ment it as normal prompt12:27
gnomefreakno $ is default12:27
asacxlp: start firefox like above12:28
xlptyed that and firefox opened up from terminal12:28
asacgnomefreak: $ is the default user prompt ... # the root prompt?12:28
asacxlp: yes12:28
asacthen run gnash12:28
asacon youtube for instance12:28
asacand once you are sure it fails kill firefox12:28
asacand put the log somewhere12:28
gnomefreakasac: yep12:28
xlpwell12:29
xlpi killed firefox, i have no log12:29
asachow comes12:29
gnomefreakbecause it doesn open gnash12:30
xlpwait12:30
gnomefreakafaik12:30
xlpi did it again12:30
asacthe file is named /tmp/firefox.log12:30
asacif you typed the above12:30
xlpk12:31
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xlpi did it and now terminal starting putting in commands12:31
xlpclosed firefox and where do i grab the log?12:31
xlpactually12:31
xlpnvm12:31
xlpfound it lol12:31
xlpk, what should i do with the logs/12:33
asacinnovate ...12:33
asacthe goal is: i want to take a look at it12:33
asachow ... thats your choice12:34
asacbut please don't email :)12:34
xlpok12:34
asacremember to name my nick if you want an response12:34
asace.g. to summon me in this channel12:34
asacotherwise i will almost certainly not read :)12:34
xlpasac, www.specialmoose.com/firefox2.log12:35
xlpasac, www.specialmoose.com/firefox.log12:35
asacGThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 261 (): error 'Device or resource busy' during 'pthread_cond_destroy ((pthread_cond_t *) cond)'12:36
asacmy bet is that your sound card is blocked12:36
asacby some other audio application12:36
asacbe sure to close any12:36
xlpi have a music plauyer on12:36
asacyeah ...shut it down12:36
asacand see if it works then12:36
xlpnope12:37
xlplet me take a screenshot12:37
asaci think the problem is sound ... not video?12:37
xlpyeah but its muted12:38
xlplike the volume slider is on the off side12:38
asacthe volume slider is positioned in wrong place12:38
asacyes12:38
asacthat is known12:38
asacbut that doesn't mute12:38
xlpoh12:39
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xlpwell i closed all the music apps and still no sound12:39
asacxlp try to restart firefox12:39
xlptried12:39
asacok12:39
asacwhat is in your /etc/firefox/firefoxrc ?12:39
asaci have12:40
asacFIREFOX_DSP="none"12:40
xlp# which /dev/dsp wrapper to use12:40
xlpFIREFOX_DSP="none"12:40
xlp# Note that "auto" and "esd" involve the use of esddsp, which12:40
xlp# is known to be buggy and to make Firefox unstable.12:40
xlp# See https://launchpad.net/bugs/29760.12:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 29760 in flashplugin-nonfree "Sound does not work properly in Flash in firefox" [Low,Fix released] 12:40
asacthats funny12:40
asaci mean that there is a comment about flash in it :)12:41
gnomefreakbrb12:41
asacxlp: try auto ... or esd12:41
xlpi installed some codecs first time i went to youtube with gnash just installed12:41
asacyes thats ok12:41
asacthe log doesn't complain about missing codecs12:41
xlpmy soundcard is an audigy but its using alas drivers or something12:42
xlpasac, how do i log in as root to edit the file?12:43
asachmm12:44
asacxlp: yes12:44
asacxlp: use12:44
asacsudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc12:44
asacxlp: do you have the url of youtube video you are trying?12:45
xlpim trying any12:45
xlphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkrn6ecxthM12:45
asacok works for me12:45
asac14094]  02:33:08: ERROR: Unimplemented: edit_text_character: no word wrap12:46
xlpok, auto didnt do anything12:46
asaci am not getting this12:46
xlpesd crashes firefox12:46
asack12:46
asacstay at none12:46
xlpheh well that sucks12:47
asacxlp: please give me:12:48
asacdpkg -l libgnash\*12:48
asacand12:48
asacdpkg -l gnash\*12:48
asacdpkg -l \*gnash\*12:49
asac(the output please)12:49
asacactually the last one12:49
asacshould be enough12:49
asacxlp: ^^^12:49
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xlpone sec12:49
xlplet me save this12:49
asacxlp12:49
asacpaste to http://pastebin.mozilla.org12:50
asacgnomefreak: who is they?12:50
bluekujaheya asac :)12:50
bluekujaasac: dont know why libagg is not available on PTS12:50
bluekujae.g version 2.512:50
xlphttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/11101812:50
xlpasac, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/11101812:50
gnomefreakasac: LP12:50
bluekujaasac: leaving :/ be back later, so I explain you the problem12:51
gnomefreakasac: ok you said we had a testcase to crash firefox?12:53
asacgnomefreak: yes ... the one hjmf_ referred to yesterday12:53
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asacgnomefreak: search for Frame12:54
xlpi may buy a dell with ubuntu lol12:54
asacin history12:54
xlpleast i know it may be supported12:54
asachttps://launchpad.net/bugs/11021212:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 110212 in firefox "[FEISTY]  firefox crashed [@nsHTMLContainerFrame::CreateViewForFrame]  [@nsCSSFrameConstructor::BeginBuildingScrollFrame] " [High,Confirmed] 12:54
gnomefreakasac: ty12:54
asacxlp: please post your .mozilla/pluginsreg.dat12:55
xlpwheres that at12:55
asac $HOME/.mozilla/pluginreg.dat12:55
xlpk12:55
xlphttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/11102212:56
xlpasac, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/11102212:56
gnomefreaklol it crashed12:56
asacgnomefreak: yeah12:56
gnomefreakThis problem report does not apply to a packaged program. (/var/chroot/feisty/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/firefox-trunk-bin)12:56
asacthats the idea12:56
asacdid airbag work?12:57
asacgnomefreak: ^^12:57
gnomefreaki guess i can rebuild without libcurl12:57
asachmm12:57
gnomefreakthat was the only thing i got i pasted above12:57
asacgnomefreak: why do you run from outside of chroot?12:57
asacthat looks wierd12:57
asace.g. your path should be /usr/lib/firefox-trunk/firefox-trunk-bin12:57
asacnot with /var/chroot12:57
gnomefreakasac: i cant right this minute12:57
asache?12:58
gnomefreakgive me 20+ minutes12:58
asacyeah ... starting something that is installed in chroot from outside will pull you in whatever you have in your main system12:58
gnomefreakbecause i have moron in +1 and in middle of updates12:58
asacwhich probably isn't the airbag build12:58
gnomefreakasac: give me a few and ill upgrade feisty12:59
asacxlp: do you use alsa?01:00
asacor did you do anything special?01:00
asacfor sound?01:00
xlpyeah, thats what is says in sound01:00
asacxlp: please open a bug name a video url and attach a firefox.log01:03
xlpwait01:03
xlpi fixed it01:03
asaci have to talk with gnash developers i guess01:03
asachow?01:03
xlpi deleted .asoundrc01:03
asacoh01:03
asacplesae post a bug01:03
asacand add that as a workaround01:03
xlphow?01:03
asacso i can discuss with upstream01:03
asacwhat was in .asoundrc ?01:04
xlppcm.card0 {01:04
xlp    type hw01:04
xlp    card 001:04
xlp}01:04
xlpctl.card0 {01:04
xlp    type hw01:04
xlp    card 001:04
xlp}01:04
xlppcm.!default {01:04
xlp(indent)type plug01:04
xlp(indent)slave.pcm "surround51"01:04
xlp(indent)slave.channels 601:04
asachttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+filebug01:04
xlp(indent)route_policy duplicate01:04
xlp}01:04
asacplease post a bug there01:04
xlpthats it01:04
asacand add both: firefox.log + broken .asoundrc01:04
asacthanks a lot01:04
gnomefreakasac: are you breaking gnash again?01:05
asacuse as title: no sound because of .asoundrc01:05
xlpill tell you, linux is... well01:05
asacuse as title: no sound on youtube because of .asoundrc01:05
asacxlp: its not linux ... its the ignorant world01:06
xlpi think dell needs to really get on top of things and get ubuntu more mainstream01:06
asacdell is the right step01:06
xlpbecause seriously01:06
asacto stop the ignorance of people out there01:06
xlpleast on windows you have .exe that contain everything, on linux there are too many distro's and its like download lib sudo this blah01:07
xlpleast with osx, they can kind of limit all of it since they own the hardware and only distro01:07
asacyeah ... please not in this channel01:07
asaclinux/freesoftware will definitly win01:07
xlplol01:07
asacin the long run01:07
xlpim going to give it a month01:08
xlpmonth with no xp01:08
asacthe model is superior ... you can see how well it works even though we have to do everything on our own01:08
asacimagine if ms would have to implement all hardware drivers on their own01:08
asacbecause hardware vendors wouldn't care01:08
asacand even worse ... once they managed to reverse engineer hardware driver ... hardware vendor just changes a bit because they think its necessary to do innovation in lets say sound chips01:09
asacwhich is absolutely ridiculous imo01:09
asace.g. try to innovate a chip that costs about 0.01$01:09
asacto cost 0.0099$01:10
asacxlp: yes ... are you on amd?01:10
xlpyeah01:10
asack ... i will soon release flashplugin-nonfree in mozilla preview archive for amd6401:11
asacso stay tuned01:11
asacagain a hack to work around ignorance of adobe01:11
asacthat just don't care :)01:11
xlplol prob because of apple01:11
asacthe reasoning is not clear01:11
asacthey refuse to talk with me :)01:11
asaclike most vendors refuse to talk to linux developers01:12
xlpmy money is its due to apple01:12
asacno idea ... i think its short-sight of management01:12
xlptheres an adobe guy who sits on the apple board01:12
asaci mean they release for linux ...finally01:12
asacmight be01:12
asacanyway ... there business model is fading ... as closed-source for desktops will die ... sooner or later01:13
asacif not in 5 years it will be in 15 years01:13
=== gnomefreak goes for motu and my packages are scattered all over LP :(
gnomefreakill brb coffee01:13
xlpim very impressed with google01:13
xlpnot with their stock valuation but google apps01:13
xlpall the apps you need on a desktop are available via the internet01:14
asacxlp: have you filed a bug :)01:14
xlpkind of makes the desktop irrevelant01:14
xlpyeah01:14
asacotherwise you will forget ;)01:14
asacreally ... cool thanks!01:14
asaci doubt that desktop will become completely irrelevant01:14
asacthough shift to web-applications is good01:14
asacand is likely to continue for some time01:14
xlpi can see google releasing/buying a nix distro just for web implementation, that is if apple/google dont merge01:15
xlpgoogle ceo sits on apple board too lol01:15
asacxlp: now that it works01:15
asaccan you attach a log as well?01:15
xlpcra01:15
asace.g. call it firefox-good.log01:16
xlphow can i edit my bug?01:16
xlpi already submitted one01:16
asacjust go to it01:16
asacthen attach more info01:16
asac(at the bottom)01:16
asacyou can attach comment or/and attachment01:16
asacattach attachment and say in comment that its lock of good session01:17
asacxlp: please attach the bad log as well01:17
asaci see that you didn't :)01:17
xlpwhats the command to launch firefox and record log?01:17
asacscroll up :)01:18
asacfirefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/firefox-good.log01:18
asacand please attach the broken .asoundrc as well01:19
asacso:01:19
asac1. attach firefox-bad.log01:19
asac2. attach .asoundrc01:19
asac3. attach firefox-good.log01:19
asac:)01:19
gnomefreakbrb gonna test feisty -trunk01:20
xlpgar01:22
xlpwhere is the temp file lol01:22
asachehe ... in /tmp/01:22
asac:)01:22
asacif you are in file picker ... go to top level ... then there is tmp01:23
asacdirectory01:23
asac/tmp/ files get automatically removed on next reboot .. which is why i provided commands that put the logs there01:24
asacso you don't clutter your disk :)01:24
asacxlp: ^^01:25
xlpok01:26
xlpits all there now01:26
xlphttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/12302401:26
asaclet me see01:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123024 in gnash "no sound from youtube" [Undecided,New] 01:27
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asacxlp: thanks a lot ... looks good01:28
asacif you see comments you don't understand, they are probalby not ment for you :)01:28
asacif we need info, we will call your name :)01:28
xlpthank you :D i dont think i would be able to stay on nix for a month without youtube01:28
asacxlp: but it works :)01:28
xlpim going to try and use ubuntu for a month01:28
asacsoon you can get adobe flash player01:29
xlpno youtube would have killed it LOL01:29
asacah ok01:29
xlpgood thing it works now01:29
asacany idea why .asoundrc was there?01:29
xlpi put it there01:29
asacwhy?01:29
xlptrying to get my 4.1 speakers to work01:29
xlponly fronts working01:29
asacwhat is 4.1?01:30
gnomefreak!moztest01:30
ubotuThe Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.01:30
xlpread up that you can mimic the front channels for the back01:30
xlp4.1 speakers, 2 front 2 back01:30
asacah ok01:30
asacis that a desktop ... or laptop?01:30
xlpleft front, right front, left back, right back01:30
xlpdesktop01:30
xlpusing a soundblaster audigy shit version01:30
xlp(no special things on it)01:30
asachow did you find the .asoundrc workaround?01:31
xlpbut yeah, read where asla will read that file and those commands were suppose to duplicate the front for the back01:31
xlpwhen you asked if i did anything to my sound, i did only that01:31
asacyep01:31
asacits ok ... just wondered how you found this tweak :)01:31
xlpare there soundblaster drivers or asla the best bet?01:31
xlpalsa even01:32
asaci am not really a hardware specialist ... but alsa is the de-facto standard01:32
asacdon't know if anything special exists for soundblaster01:32
asachttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs01:33
asacwhich one is your card?01:33
xlpso, how long you been with nix?01:33
gnomefreaktoo long :)01:33
asacme?01:34
gnomefreakyep01:34
asacif i boot windows i get allergic reactions01:34
xlpyeah01:34
xlpLOL01:34
asacactually i don't have windows for 6 years now01:34
xlpwindows isnt bad01:34
asaci tried it before that to use for 1 year (e.g. to give it a chance)01:34
gnomefreaki keep it for other people :(01:34
xlpmy winxp install loads faster =/01:35
asacwhich will change over time :)01:35
gnomefreakthan feisty?01:35
xlpmy other friend was going to try ubuntu for a month but cant get his wireless card to work01:35
xlpyeah, its a fresh install of xp01:35
xlploads like in 5 secs01:35
asacyeah same issue ... ignorance of hardware vendors01:35
gnomefreakhmmmmm01:35
asacread the above alsa link01:35
xlpubuntu takes like a minute01:35
asacand the read box01:35
gnomefreakmy xp takes ages to boot01:35
xlplol01:36
asacxp constantly gets slower01:36
asacwhich is not the case for linux01:36
xlpyeah, i dunno why vendors dont open up their stuff01:36
gnomefreakmoney01:36
asacxlp: because they are completely incompetent01:36
asacand think they have to guard their IP01:36
asacwhich is not existant01:36
asaci mean anyone who seriously wants to get an idea what is going on will be able to reverse engineer01:36
asace.g. anyone with enough resources to develop chips01:37
xlponly gripe i have about linux is its not straight forward (although ubuntu is the best ive seen and its pretty good)01:37
asacstraight forward is just a matter of experience01:37
asacif i go to windows01:37
asaci can't do a thing01:37
=== gnomefreak needs to make note dont use dist-upgrade on feisty
asacand start crying for even the most simple tasks01:37
xlpasac, true lol01:38
asacreally ... people that know something are hardest to convert to linux01:38
xlpi dont even want to remember the number of times ive installed a driver in winxp and the entire system crashed01:38
asacbecause they will not even look for 10 minutes01:38
gnomefreakok you still have bug handy (i cant scroll since i logged off01:38
asacthey are just blinded by what they already know01:38
asacif they seriously looked ... with about 10% of energy they invested to figure out once on windows they will succeed in almost all cases01:39
xlponly thing that scares me is the compiler my kernel? and searching for damn libraries and such, just give me an all in one (ubuntu thank you and redhat too)01:39
asacxlp: yes01:39
asacthats the idea of a distro01:39
asacyou get everything out of the bosx01:39
xlpand the whole million damn folders01:39
asacand azillions applications01:39
asacjust ignore them :)01:40
asacjust use your home and desktop folder :01:40
asac)01:40
xlpits growing on me lol01:40
xlpubuntu that is01:40
asacubuntu is growing by every new user01:40
asachehe01:40
xlphaha01:40
gnomefreaklol # cnaonical would like to pay thier developers01:41
gnomefreak-# + @01:41
xlpits pretty good, the apps though kinda look cheesy =/01:41
xlpone question, ubuntostudio, cant i just download all those apps in ubuntu?01:42
=== gnomefreak likes this meeting, i should watch motu meetings more often
DarkMageZxlp, yes you can.01:42
gnomefreakxlp: yeah the idea of ubuntu-studio is to make one package that grabs the other apps (meta package like ubuntu-desktop)01:42
xlpso is gnome more popular than kde?01:44
gnomefreakxlp: its hard to say there is no benchmark on either01:44
gnomefreakasac: you have bug handy again i lost scroll back when i rebooted01:45
xlpand how do i add stuff to the panel? i remember seeing a promtp where i could ad cpu loads, etc.01:45
xlpkinda like widgets01:45
xlpnvm found it01:46
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: can you scroll back and get me link to the bug that was posted about crsahing ffox?01:48
gnomefreakits not that far iirc01:48
DarkMageZ11021201:48
gnomefreakty01:49
gnomefreakbug 11021201:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 110212 in firefox "[FEISTY]  firefox crashed [@nsHTMLContainerFrame::CreateViewForFrame]  [@nsCSSFrameConstructor::BeginBuildingScrollFrame] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11021201:49
asacxlp: those widgets are called panel applets :)01:50
gnomefreaki dont like this new address bar crap01:50
asacor for normal users: gnome-panel extensions :)01:50
asacxlp: gnome rocks ... while kde sucks imo01:51
gnomefreaki play with kde from time to time01:51
asackde tries to mimic windows too much ... and thus fails to generate real innovation01:51
gnomefreakput perfectly01:51
asacgnome has a much healthier community and much more momentum01:52
=== gnomefreak waits for airbag
asace.g. more developers that have a clue :)01:52
xlpwill nix kill itself over time like winxp ie i could have this install for years on end without having to reinstall?01:52
gnomefreakgood frigging thing this isnt a car crash01:52
asacxlp: yes01:52
asaci never reinstall01:52
xlphmm01:52
asace.g. upgrade like winxp to vista01:52
asacis just one command01:52
xlplol01:52
asacand you can go on working while upgrade is running01:52
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm this isnt good01:53
asacthere are really not much places where windows is superior ... its only hardware support01:53
asacand maybe office01:53
xlpyeah i think im turning into a fan now01:53
xlphaha01:53
gnomefreaki might be putting sunbird off another day01:53
asacbut given the fact that MS has about 20 years of office know how01:53
asacthis is not questionable01:53
asacgood thing is: at some point they have to release for linux as well :)01:53
asace.g. when market share peeks 10% i would say01:54
asac... and we saw how fast market share can shift :)01:54
asacwith firefox01:54
xlpwell im impresses, first and last time i installed linux was back when mandrake was the latest craze01:54
xlponly problem was, nothing i had was supported01:54
asacactually once windows drops below 90% ... i think ms will collapse because all their business tactics depend on being amonopoly01:55
asacyeah ... its getting better01:55
xlpi think osx will be ms's biggest rival01:55
asaci doubt that01:55
asacunless something really big happens01:56
xlponly because you got apple's electronics and software with both windows and nix aoos01:56
xlpbut never know01:56
asacsure ... the only thing you can be sure of is that freesoftware will ever exist :)01:57
asacok ... lunch time01:57
xlpbed time01:58
xlpLOL01:58
xlpok i want to know who thought 11minute for inactivity for turning the display should be the lowest you can go02:00
xlpbedtime02:00
asacno idea :)02:00
asacnight02:00
gnomefreakwho has konq.?02:03
=== gnomefreak not fully convinced this is mozilla problem
gnomefreakwtf02:04
=== asac lunch
gnomefreakasac: that bug is not a firefox bug konq crashes as well02:19
DarkMageZwhich bug/02:25
gnomefreakbug 11021202:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 110212 in firefox "[FEISTY]  firefox crashed [@nsHTMLContainerFrame::CreateViewForFrame]  [@nsCSSFrameConstructor::BeginBuildingScrollFrame] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11021202:29
gnomefreaki need an IE test on that02:30
DarkMageZopera = no crash02:30
=== gnomefreak found out cant copy in links2 :(
DarkMageZcould be related to a plugin which is running under konq & firefox02:31
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: feisty?02:31
DarkMageZyeah02:31
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: it cant be02:32
=== gnomefreak has no plugins
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: do you have java in your opera?02:33
=== DarkMageZ checks
DarkMageZno java in my opera02:35
DarkMageZno java in my system...02:35
gnomefreakthat may be why02:36
DarkMageZdo you get a nice green page?02:37
DarkMageZor do you crash before that?02:37
gnomefreakgreen page brb i have something to get done adn than ill test with opera and java02:38
=== gnomefreak is leaning torwards the java script is whats causing crash
asacgnomefreak: interseting02:52
asace.g. that konq crashes as well02:52
asaccan you try IE ?02:52
gnomefreakit doesnt fail without java02:52
gnomefreaki cant02:52
gnomefreakasac: can you reproduce on 64bit without java02:53
asacwhat?02:53
gnomefreakthat crash02:53
asacah ... in non debug builds it doesn't always crash02:53
gnomefreakhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/11021202:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 110212 in firefox "[FEISTY]  firefox crashed [@nsHTMLContainerFrame::CreateViewForFrame]  [@nsCSSFrameConstructor::BeginBuildingScrollFrame] " [High,Confirmed] 02:53
asactry multiple times02:53
gnomefreaklinks2 asks to kill script reject or accept if you accept it it gives you a failure but as you know links2 is a bitch to crash02:54
gnomefreakbut it asks that about the javascript that redirects you02:55
gnomefreakno java == no crash02:55
gnomefreakinstalling opera atm02:55
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: in opera you just got a while page with dutch on it?02:58
DarkMageZyeah02:58
gnomefreakasac: Een ogenblikje alstublieft...   what is that?02:58
DarkMageZbut firefox follows the redirect02:58
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: and it doesnt crash correct?02:58
DarkMageZno crash. no java.02:59
gnomefreakasac: its directly related to javascript02:59
gnomefreakor java interpeter02:59
DarkMageZjavascript = yes02:59
=== gnomefreak thinks script
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: everyone has script installed by default as its with java1.402:59
DarkMageZyeah, i was just confirming that it was enabled.03:00
gnomefreakadding java to opera lets see if i get crash03:01
gnomefreakhmmmm that is bad03:03
gnomefreaki didnt have java installed03:03
gnomefreakand it crashed in firefox-trunk03:03
=== gnomefreak waits
gnomefreakdamn03:05
gnomefreakasac: im still not convinced its mozilla related03:05
gnomefreakmozilla has java enabled by default03:06
gnomefreakmy firefox without sun-java packages crash on redirect03:07
gnomefreakopera does not use any type of java by default and does not crash03:08
=== gnomefreak wonders if konq crashes without java
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: in about:plugins do you have any java listed?03:10
DarkMageZunder firefox? no03:11
gnomefreakevery 5 minutes a new firefox bug is reported some where in the world03:11
gnomefreak^^ fact03:11
gnomefreakthats now odd03:11
gnomefreakack now thats odd03:12
gnomefreakmaybe javascript comes with browser but not opera03:12
gnomefreakwth is /usr/lib/jvm at03:16
DarkMageZjavascript is enabled and working in opera.03:16
DarkMageZand firefox here03:16
gnomefreakXSLT processing failed!03:18
gnomefreakasac: can you translate that into real life terms03:18
asache?03:19
gnomefreakasac: XSLT processing failed!  what is that03:19
asacits what it reads :)03:19
gnomefreakXSLT does what? is what?03:19
asacXSLT processing is to transform XML data to something else03:19
asacmost likely another XML form ... or html03:19
gnomefreakdamnit03:19
gnomefreakhow the hell does java have to do with HTML unless javascript is stopping it from converting03:20
asacand yes most crashers go away if you disable javascript03:20
gnomefreakif that is the case i have to blame the site03:20
asacsites are never a valid candidate to blame a crash on03:21
gnomefreaksure it is ;)03:21
gnomefreakcant blame mozilla or gkhtml seeing as khtml fails03:21
gnomefreakjava 1.4 in mozilla you see crash no java at all no  crash install sun-java package and crash in mozilla but not in opera03:22
gnomefreakcant really blame java on it since other java sites/scripts work fine03:23
gnomefreakwhat else is left03:23
gnomefreaki would really like to see another site that gives same backtrace03:25
gnomefreakor crash report03:25
gnomefreakto make me more comfortible calling it a mozilla/html/java issue03:25
gnomefreakasac: is there something i can use as a templete or a cheat sheet for sunbird?03:42
asache?03:43
gnomefreaki see im gonna have to rebuild everything it wants to remove to install firefox03:43
gnomefreakasac: for control file and config files and so on03:43
gnomefreakrules03:43
asaclike what we said yesterday03:43
asacjust branch firefox ubuntu-2.0.0.x as sunbird03:43
asacand then modify03:43
asacits a ready to use blueprint03:44
gnomefreakok ill look at it when im done here in feisty03:44
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gnomefreakok ready to start on this, its saved as sunbird-0.5 :)03:54
gnomefreakasac: is this going in universe?03:55
gnomefreakasac: ok in control what packages are we building with this, sunbird, lightning, any -dbg packages and so on?03:56
asacno -dbg packages03:57
asacfor debian yes ... for ubuntu no03:57
asacbut yes its going to universe03:57
asacmaybe lightning will be moved to main at some point03:57
gnomefreakis it safe to grab build-deps and others from debians sunbird package? or is there somewhere else to look for these03:59
gnomefreakmost look same for deps anyway i havent looked at build-deps yet04:00
gnomefreakbtw you have to update debians unless we do ours than submit it to debian04:03
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gnomefreakonly binaries debian builds is sunbird and sunbird-dev :)04:06
Admiral_Chicagomorning04:11
gnomefreakmorning04:17
Admiral_Chicagohow goes the build?04:17
gnomefreakasac: are we using cdbs for patches?04:18
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: it will be a while04:18
=== gnomefreak gotta figure out what to keep and what i can trash
asacwe are using quilt04:22
asacfortunately cdbs has support for quilt patches04:22
gnomefreakoh ok that would explain why the folder is cdbs04:22
gnomefreakhmmmmm04:23
asacthe folder is cdbs?04:24
=== gnomefreak might cheat just to see what happens
asacwhat do you mean?04:24
asacah you use cdbs-edit-patch or what?04:24
gnomefreakcdbs-rules is a dir in firefox debian04:24
asacah ... yes ... just keep it04:24
asacits good04:24
asacits my fix for broken cdbs04:24
gnomefreakah ok04:24
asacso we can do more than the mob04:24
asacthat uses vanilla cdbs04:24
asac:)04:24
gnomefreakwhat do i do with all the firefox.install and all those files? rm them and replace with the right ones?04:25
gnomefreakby the looks of this almost everything needs to be changed04:26
gnomefreakim comparing rules files atm just to see differnece and use the config options from sunbirds rles file04:26
asacgnomefreak: no04:31
asacbzr mv debian/firefox.install debian/sunbird.install04:31
asacdo that with all files04:31
asacwhat rules file from sunbird are you looking at?04:32
asacmy old package from experimental?04:32
asacgnomefreak ... as a start:04:32
gnomefreakasac: yes the old one04:33
asacbzr mv for all debhelper files in debian directory04:33
asacthen replace firefox with sunbird in each of them04:33
asacafter that we can look at rules04:33
asaccan you paste the configure options somewhere?04:33
asac(sorry i don't have that old package at hand)04:33
gnomefreakfir ffox or sunbird?04:33
gnomefreakfir ==for04:33
asacsunbird configure options i want to see04:34
gnomefreakheres full rules file (we may need it later)04:35
gnomefreakoops http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/59539604:35
asacgnomefreak: ok should be a good start to use those04:36
gnomefreaki dont see any debhelper files jumping out at me04:36
asache?04:36
asacall firefox.install firefox.dirs firefox.links04:36
asacsame for firefox-dom-inspector ...04:36
asacet al04:36
asacall those are debhelper files04:36
gnomefreakoh i tried doing it with firefox.1 and got error let me see if i can mv rest04:37
asacfirefox.1 is manpage04:37
asacnot debhelper file04:37
asacprobably one of the only not-debhelper files04:37
asacgnomefreak: :)04:37
asackeep the manpage for now04:37
gnomefreakfixed04:38
asack04:38
asacgnomefreak: you want to make use of system nss and nspr04:38
asace.g. add the configure options04:38
gnomefreakok04:38
asacotherwise it should be ok04:38
asac1. rename firefox.* to sunbird.*04:39
asac2. replace all firefox strings inside tose file with sunbird04:39
asac3. ... ping me :)04:39
asacshort break04:45
asacshoulder pain is back04:45
gnomefreakok all is renamed04:46
asacgood ... in control as well?04:47
asac-> do it :)04:47
asacat best comment out -dom-inspector package for now04:47
gnomefreakcontrol is gonna be a bitch04:47
asacgnomefreak: no its not04:47
asacSource: lightning-sunbird04:48
asacPackage: sunbird04:48
asacdrop firefox-dom-inspector for now04:48
asacwe can readd it if we really want it for sunbird at some point04:48
asacPackage: sunbird-dev04:48
asac--> done04:48
gnomefreakremove everything else?04:49
asacwhatelse is there?04:49
gnomefreakexcept -dom04:49
asache?04:49
asacno ... remove -dom04:49
asackeep the rest :)04:49
gnomefreakok and dbg and04:49
asacremove -dbg as well04:49
asacwe just have firefox-dbg for historical purpose04:49
gnomefreakonly keep dev adn sunbird04:49
asacyeah04:49
asacand source package is named like above04:49
asacthen add changelog entry04:49
gnomefreakright04:49
asacwith sourcepackage name04:49
asacand good version04:50
gnomefreakand the depends leave alone?04:50
asac-> done04:50
asacgnomefreak: for now yes04:50
gnomefreakk04:50
asacyou might want to drop -dom-inspector from recommends/suggests04:50
gnomefreakk04:50
asacam i on?04:53
gnomefreakyep04:53
asac??04:54
asacoh ... i see Lag: 64 here04:54
asacin irssi04:54
asacbut didn't see a disconnect04:54
asacwhich makes me feel scary04:54
gnomefreakok control is done04:54
asacit reminds me of yesterday ... Lag: xx -> disconnect04:54
asactr to reset modem to see if it helps04:54
asachorror04:54
gnomefreakthat happened to me the other day a bunch of times04:54
gnomefreakasac: .TH FIREFOX 1 "November 4, 2004" firefox "Linux User's Manual"04:58
gnomefreak.SH NAME04:58
gnomefreakfirefox - a Web browser for X11 derived from the Mozilla browser04:59
gnomefreakchange all that to sunbird with todays date?04:59
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asac_sun of a bitch04:59
gnomefreaki didnt do it04:59
asac_16:54 < gnomefreak> ok control is done04:59
asac_16:54 < asac> great04:59
asac_16:54 < asac> gnomefreak: look in rules04:59
asac_16:54 < asac> anything that still looks like firefox?04:59
asac_16:54 < asac> or didn't you touch rules so far?04:59
asac_16:55 < asac> hmm interesting04:59
asac_16:55 < asac> gnomefreak: do you really hear me?04:59
asac_16:55 < asac> i got reconnected04:59
asac_16:55 < asac> but still have same nick04:59
gnomefreakasac: well i missed something with the firefox-* sunbird*04:59
asac_of course you didn't05:00
asac_lets see how long i stay online05:00
gnomefreaki didnt see any of that after done with control05:00
gnomefreakim back into the files i moved05:00
asac_why?05:00
asac_ah you missed something05:01
gnomefreakbecasue you said to replace all ff strings with sunbird05:01
asac_work precisely05:01
asac_that will safe us lots of time finding wierd issues later05:01
asac_yeah firefox-* -> sunbird-*05:01
gnomefreakwell sunbird.1 has a bunch of crap to replace in it05:01
asac_so my instruction was valid, right?05:01
asac_gnomefreak: sunbird.1 is manpage05:02
asac_keep it untouched05:02
asac_we have to rewrite later anyways05:02
gnomefreakasac: oops rename it firefox.105:02
asac_just rename for now05:02
asac_the file itself05:02
asac_he?05:02
asac_either keep it as firefox.1 ... or rename to sunbird.105:02
asac_but don't replace anything inside05:02
gnomefreakok its renamed already05:02
asac_actually ... rename file to sunbird.1 is good05:02
gnomefreakok05:02
asac_fine05:02
asac_don't bother about content of that file05:03
asac_the other files matter more: like firefox.install, .links .dirs05:03
asac_and firefox-dev.*05:03
asac_those need to be renamed and content replaced05:03
asac_e.g. firefox -> sunbird inside05:03
gnomefreak.links failed to rename05:03
asac_no05:03
gnomefreakyes05:03
asac_please think a bit05:03
asac_the file is not named .links05:03
asac_of course05:03
asac_look whats inside debian/05:03
gnomefreakfirefox.links failed to rename05:04
asac_why?05:04
gnomefreakit didnt want to?05:04
gnomefreakhold on05:04
asac_if firefox.links exist ... it should be renamed05:04
gnomefreakbzr: ERROR: Could not rename firefox-links => sunbird-links: debian/firefox-links is not versioned05:04
asac_and it definitly can be renamed with bzr move05:04
asac_yeah05:04
asac_you see the problem?05:04
asac_look close05:04
gnomefreakit has /debian05:04
gnomefreakbut i didnt05:04
asac_no05:04
gnomefreakoh05:05
gnomefreak-05:05
gnomefreakdamnit05:05
asac_look at how the filenames look like05:05
asac_exactly05:05
asac_:)05:05
gnomefreakfixed05:05
asac_good ... move on05:05
asac_replace content in it05:05
asac_then rename next file ... and so on05:05
gnomefreakall files renamed05:05
asac_good ... content replaced as well?05:06
gnomefreakthat part done, wait a min05:06
gnomefreaknow would be a great time to know sed05:07
asac_gnomefreak: yeah ... exersize it next time05:07
asac_editor should provide you with find and replace as well05:07
asac_so sed should not be needed05:07
asac_e.g. in vi you could do: ':s/firefox/sunbird/g'05:07
asac_in gedit there should be a menu entry05:08
gnomefreaki like05:08
gnomefreakgedit does it05:08
gnomefreakasac_: what about sunbird.png.uu05:09
asac_remove it05:10
asac_should not be needed05:10
asac_if its needed we can add later05:11
asac_afaik that is the "free" icon05:11
gnomefreakk05:11
asac_which we will need for debian05:11
asac_so maybe keep it :)05:11
asac_but for that we need a whole branding directory05:11
asac_like for iceape/icedove05:11
asac_so lets deal later withit05:11
gnomefreakok05:12
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gnomefreakok all the files i renamed have sunbird instead of firefox in them05:18
gnomefreaki added the config to rules and kept --enable-official-branding and --with-sys-nss and nspr05:18
=== gnomefreak goes for smoke
gnomefreakk05:24
gnomefreakdid i need to  do more in rules? all i did was the config options05:25
gnomefreakasac: you still connected?05:32
asacyeah05:32
asacgnomefreak: is there firefox somewhere named?05:32
asacin rules?05:32
gnomefreakdont know ill look05:32
asacyeah please look05:33
gnomefreakyes05:33
gnomefreakrename them i guess05:34
gnomefreakdebian/firefox.cfg lines05:34
gnomefreakack theres more05:34
gnomefreakit looks fairly safe to replace with sunbird05:35
gnomefreakreplaced05:36
asacgood05:37
asacrename firefox.cfg file as well then05:37
asacwhat other places did you replace?05:37
gnomefreakalready did05:37
asacgnomefreak: probably show me an bzr diff debian/rules05:37
asacso i can see whats going on :)05:37
gnomefreakok05:37
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/59554205:39
gnomefreakyou have got ot be kidding me05:43
asacgnomefreak: ok ... commmit locally05:43
asacthen give it a bzr bd spin locally05:43
asac(you can uncommit later to fix things and properly document before you publish)05:43
asacso ... don't publish ... just commit to build with bzr bd --merge .05:44
gnomefreakinstalling build-deps atm05:48
gnomefreakwill try spin soon05:48
gnomefreakthats odd05:54
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gnomefreakasac: Exporting to ../build-area/firefox-2.0.0.4+2 in merge mode05:55
gnomefreakLooking for ../tarballs/firefox_2.0.0.4+2.orig.tar.gz to use as upstream source05:55
gnomefreakwhy is it looking for firefox05:55
gnomefreakoh damn nvm05:56
asacgnomefreak: changelog05:56
asacyou need to add a new entry05:56
asacread above05:56
asacremember that source package name is lightning-sunbird05:56
asacand upstream version 0.505:56
asacgnomefreak: ah you probably found .)05:57
asacgood05:57
gnomefreak(0.5-0ubuntu1)?05:57
gnomefreaksince no debian version?05:57
bluekujaasac: back06:03
bluekuja:)06:03
bluekujaI was saying before06:03
asacok ... i have meeting now ... then out :/06:03
asacgnomefreak: right06:03
gnomefreakok im building06:04
gnomefreakwell fixing06:04
bluekujaasac: oh k06:04
asaci will write a mail btw06:06
asacbluekuja: maybe help gnomefreak packaging sunbird a bit :)06:06
gnomefreakits pretty much done06:07
asache is currently making great progress :)06:07
gnomefreaklol06:07
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... i mean in case there happen to be problems :)06:07
bluekujaasac: mail for MOTU?06:07
gnomefreakonce past config i can go get lunch06:07
asacyes06:07
bluekujadaniel suggested you to do it06:07
bluekuja?06:07
gnomefreakcan i start pulling patches?06:07
bluekujamaybe for other MC members06:07
gnomefreaklol06:07
bluekujagnomefreak, need help?06:07
bluekujaI'm here :)06:07
gnomefreaknot really im just wondering what patches we *have* to keep06:08
bluekuja:)06:08
bluekujawhich patch system are you using?06:08
bluekujaquilt?dpatch?06:08
gnomefreakquilt06:09
bluekujacool06:09
gnomefreakif i comment out in series that will work for now right?06:10
gnomefreakit will skip patch06:10
bluekujaif you comment it out06:10
bluekujayes06:10
gnomefreakits gonna fail on most of these patches06:20
bluekujay?06:20
gnomefreakthey are firefox patches06:20
gnomefreakso anything ubuntu firefox related its gonna fail06:21
bluekujaoh :)06:21
bluekujayeah06:21
bluekujayou might check them06:21
bluekujabefore building06:21
gnomefreakcommenting them out for the time being to see if it does build06:22
bluekujayeah06:22
bluekujasounds good06:22
gnomefreakonce it builds i can go back and fix or remove06:22
bluekujayup06:22
asacthere shouldn't be  patches that don't apply :)06:43
bluekujaasac: I was right?06:44
asacabout what?06:44
bluekuja<bluekuja> daniel suggested you to do it06:44
bluekuja<bluekuja> ?06:44
bluekuja<bluekuja> maybe for other MC members06:44
asacyes06:44
bluekuja;)06:44
asache won't decide alone ... so.06:44
bluekujayup06:45
asacgnomefreak: does it spin?06:45
gnomefreaki dont know yet06:45
gnomefreaki commenting out patch by patch06:45
gnomefreakwhen i get all patches that fail #'ed out we will know06:45
gnomefreakgrrrr06:46
gnomefreakits safe to comment all ubuntu-look-and-feel patches right?06:46
asacyeah ... arent those dropped?06:47
asacwhich ones do you have?06:47
asace.g. what revision?06:47
asacbzr?06:47
gnomefreakno we didnt do patches yet06:47
asaci mean ... i dropped most patches lately06:47
gnomefreaki just pulled 66 i have to push it again06:47
asacfor official firefox06:47
asacgnomefreak: no don't push06:47
asacwork locally until it works06:48
gnomefreaknot push sorry commit06:48
asacah ok06:48
asacgnomefreak: did the merge remove some patches?06:48
gnomefreakno06:48
gnomefreakwe didnt go over them06:48
asack06:48
asacmost should apply06:48
gnomefreakbuild-system-garbage.patch bz343360-feed-flat-chrome-fix.patch - bzXXX-wl-no-as-needed-for-libxpcom-lp85112.patch06:48
gnomefreakand the ubuntu-look-and... ones failed so far06:49
asack ... safe to drop them for now06:49
asacwhich ones?06:49
asacdebian/patches/ubuntu-look-and-feel-disable-help-translate-menu.patch -> drop06:49
gnomefreakyes06:50
gnomefreakfailed06:50
asacubuntu-look-and-feel-home-folder.patch -> empty ... actually its removed from bzr afaik06:50
asaca wrong06:50
gnomefreaknope it wasnt06:50
asacgnomefreak: only those are enabled in bzr:06:50
asacubuntu-disable-welcome-update-url.patch06:50
asacubuntu-look-and-feel-report-a-bug-menuitem.patch06:50
asacubuntu-look-and-feel-patch-fix-bookmarks-ubuntu-urls.patch06:50
asacubuntu-look-and-feel-disable-help-translate-menu.patch06:50
asacok drop all for now06:51
asacthose 406:51
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/59571706:51
gnomefreakthe ones # are what i disabled06:52
asacif you have more ubuntu-* in series you probably are not in sync with my bzr tree06:52
gnomefreaki just pulled it last night06:52
gnomefreakdid you change anything since06:52
bluekujaasac: which meeting now?06:57
asacmobile06:57
bluekujaoh cool06:57
bluekujathought tech board06:57
bluekujathat's at 2106:57
gnomefreakbluekuja: that on july 3rd06:59
asacgnomefreak: i am sure you get sunbird build  when i return in 4 hours right?07:02
gnomefreaki hope so07:02
asacyou rock :)07:02
gnomefreakdepends how long a lunch i take07:02
asaci guess maybe it will fail during install07:03
asac(e.g. after build)07:03
asacbut that we can figure out as well then07:03
gnomefreakyep07:03
asacok ... i pack my things now07:03
asacmoving to other city07:03
asaccu later07:03
gnomefreakhave fun07:03
asachehe fun ... like traffic jam07:03
asacand kamizkaze drivers on the autobahn07:04
asaci hate it07:04
gnomefreaki dont blame you07:04
asacblame?07:04
asacthat i hate it?07:04
asacanyway ... got to go :-D07:04
asaccu later07:04
bluekujagnomefreak, ah yeah07:05
Admiral_Chicagored_herring: did you look at those apport hooks yet07:06
bluekujagnomefreak, where did he go?07:06
Admiral_Chicagoasac: if you have time, red_herring is a python guru and is looking to help, talk to him07:06
=== red_herring waves
bluekujagnomefreak, mobile meeting already finished?07:08
=== gnomefreak wasnt on it
gnomefreakasac is gone for the next 4+ hours07:09
bluekujaso meeting is finished07:09
gnomefreakbluekuja: not sure maybe sprint week?07:09
bluekujadunno07:09
gnomefreaknope07:10
gnomefreaknothing gutsy related that i know of until july 5th07:10
=== gnomefreak goes for smoke while i wait for another patch to fail
bluekujalol07:18
gnomefreakit failed on something else07:20
gnomefreakall patches are done failing07:20
gnomefreakOPTFLAGS = -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing07:20
gnomefreakendif07:20
gnomefreakcant have -fno-strict-aliasing07:21
gnomefreakshould i drop the full OPTFLAGS = -02 line07:21
gnomefreakwere gonna have to patch that if we want -dbgsym07:26
gnomefreakoh well lets see what happens07:26
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gnomefreakthis is becoming a PITA very very fast07:48
gnomefreak*warning* dont ever think firefox rules file will work in anything else07:49
Admiral_Chicagogrr, a bit busy with house work, won't be around too much toda08:01
Admiral_Chicagobe back in ~3 hours08:01
gnomefreakIMHO this isnt worth it :(08:06
gnomefreakasac: is gonna be pissed08:08
gnomefreak:)08:08
gnomefreakconfigure: error: These compiler flags are invalid:  --with-system-nspr08:08
gnomefreaknow i have to leave it for now since he wants it built using nss and nspr08:09
gnomefreakbluekuja: i sent asac email about it since it failed on something he wants to keep, i gave him all info that i have atm, if he comes back and im not here let him know to check @ubuntu.com address for email.08:22
bluekujaasac: leaving, tell me when mail has been sent08:38
bluekujacu later08:38
bluekuja:)08:38
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gnomefreakasac: you make it back yet?11:31
gnomefreakit would be nice if easy codec only ran once and got everything11:48
asacyeah11:54
asaci know ... its what i suggested as an improvement in my announcement11:54
asacso what is going on with configure?11:54
gnomefreakah i cant build with --with-system-nss btw im sure nspr will fail as well11:54
asachmm11:55
gnomefreakit was --without-system-nss in debians rules file11:55
asacyeah11:55
asacso what patches did you need to drop?11:55
gnomefreakall the ones on that pastebin link11:56
gnomefreak10 or so of them11:56
gnomefreakall ubuntu-* patches #11:56
gnomefreakall ubuntu-* patches bz343360-feed-flat-chrome-fix.patch11:56
gnomefreak# - bzXXX-wl-no-as-needed-for-libxpcom-lp85112.patch11:56
gnomefreakbz384304_lp117575_linkrecursion_fix_in_startscript.patch11:57
asacok11:57
gnomefreakand build-sys-garbage11:57
asaclooking at it it loogs11:57
asaclooks ok11:57
asacbuild-sys garbage is not that important anymore11:57
gnomefreaki didnt like hacking the rules file that much like now no -dbgsym packages will build11:57
asachmmm yes ... you have to use --disable-strip11:58
gnomefreakknew for most part what everything did but it gets icky11:58
asacand -g11:58
gnomefreakah11:58
asac-g ... look where -g was in firefox rules11:58
gnomefreakshould i add it back or leave it for now?11:58
asac(e.g. its not a configure option)11:58
gnomefreakah ok11:58
asacno add it back11:58
gnomefreakoh?11:58
asacuse --disable-strip (e.g. not --enable-strip)11:58
gnomefreakah ok11:58
asacwhat was the OPTFLAGS thing?11:59
asacdid you keep it?11:59
gnomefreakelse OPTFLAGS -02 -fno-strict-aliasing caused a fail to build11:59
asachmmm ... can you paste the rule please12:00
asacrules12:00
gnomefreaksomething like there is no -fno-strick-aliasing config option12:00
asaci have no access atm :(12:00
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/59587612:00
gnomefreakor in here?12:00
asacOPTFLAGS += -g as they were failing12:00
asacthat is important to keep12:00
gnomefreakit was12:00
gnomefreakok12:00
asacactually those OPTFLAGS section you need12:00
asacit shouldn't cause any problem12:01
gnomefreak-g was no config option12:01
asacno ... gnomefreak please readd the if ... OPTFLAGS ... else ... OPTFLAGS things12:02
asacit is definitly needed12:02
asachow did it look like in the beginning?12:02
asaclet me see in bzr browse code12:02
gnomefreakfrom?12:03
asachttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/ubuntu-2.0.0.x/annotate/asac%40jwsdot.com-20070625082649-8nltqam3bs1uzwya?file_id=rules-20070321172126-hx4btlytc64jyo4n-2312:03
asacwe definitly need that else branch12:04
asace.g. line 23 - 2512:04
asacand line 2712:04
asacis important as well12:04
gnomefreakit failed on it12:04
gnomefreaki added them back12:04
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asacna ... then you maybe added a whitespace or something12:04
asacits nothing that can make the build fail12:04
gnomefreak-fno-strict-aliasing failed than -O2failed12:05
gnomefreakcouldnt have whitespace i didnt touch rules before that12:05
gnomefreakthan -g failed12:05
asaci don't see how you tink that -g failed12:05
asacwhat did it asy?12:05
asaci mean -g cannot fail12:06
asac:)12:06
gnomefreak-g not a configuration option12:06
asacgnomefreak: ah i see12:06
asacok12:06
asaclook at line12:06
asac7112:06
gnomefreakon mine o ryours?12:06
asacyou see the --enable-optimize there?12:06
asacin bzr link12:06
asaci pasted12:06
asacwe need that form12:06
gnomefreakfrig that one too12:06
gnomefreakyeah i see it12:06
gnomefreaki removed the " and the trailing \ from it12:07
asac--enable-optimize=\$(OPTFLAGS) \ ... (thats what was in sunbird debian)12:07
asac--enable-optimize="-pipe -w $(OPTFLAGS)" \12:07
gnomefreakyes12:07
asacthats what we want12:07
gnomefreakoh12:07
asacotherwise configur ewill really fail with -g is not a valid config option12:07
gnomefreakyeah12:07
asac... that is probably also the reason why system-nss and system-nspr failed12:07
gnomefreakoh so try them again?12:08
asace.g. configure got confused due to that broken --enable-optimize12:08
asacyeah12:08
asacyes12:08
asackeep --with-system-xxx12:08
asacand just replace the --enable-optimize stuff12:08
gnomefreakwhat about the -fno... failure12:09
asacthats the same reason12:09
gnomefreakah ok12:09
asacyou can keep it12:09
asacif you fix --enable-optimize12:09
gnomefreakyep12:09
asacfurther we want a few more from firefox rules:12:09
asac-enable-pango \12:09
asac--enable-postscript \12:10
asac#12:10
asac#12:10
asac ups12:10
asac--enable-xft \12:10
asac --enable-xinerama \12:10
asac--enable-gnomevfs \12:11
asacmaybe even --enable-libthai \12:11
asacjust add all these12:11
asacand spin12:11
asac-enable-pango \ ... is of course:12:11
asac--enable-pango \12:11
gnomefreakyes12:12
asacif you see that there is a --disable for any of these ... drop it12:12
asacand we need:12:13
asac--disable-xprint \12:13
bluekujaheya12:13
asac--disable-strip \12:13
asac--disable-strip-libs \12:13
bluekujaasac: was asking you before about libagg12:13
asac --disable-updater \12:13
bluekujaUnstable 2.4+20060719-312:13
bluekujastill old version12:13
bluekujadont understand why12:13
asacgnomefreak: so lots todo12:14
asacbluekuja: packages.qa.debian.org has probably issues12:14
asacyeah ... :)12:14
asacgnomefreak: actually we should have kept firefox configure options12:14
bluekujaoh :D12:14
asacmaybe replace them again with the one from firefox12:14
asacand just change:12:14
asac--enable-application=browser \12:14
asacto12:14
asac--enable-application=calendar \12:14
bluekujaasac: should be synced in ubuntu too?12:14
asacand drop:12:15
asac-enable-system-myspell \12:15
asac--enable-svg \12:15
asac--enable-svg-renderer=cairo \12:15
asacgnomefreak: you think you can do that?12:15
asacgnomefreak: and add :) :12:15
asac--enable-storage \12:16
asac--enable-plaintext-editor-only \12:16
asac... that should be all12:16
asac:-D12:16
asacbluekuja: hmm12:16
asacat some point definitly12:16
bluekujaok12:16
bluekujawe'll see12:16
gnomefreakyou want me to add back firefoxes confiure?12:16
asacyes12:17
asacdrop the if ... else for system-cairo below12:17
asace.g. line 88 - 9512:17
asacthose don't make sense12:17
asacfor sunbird12:17
gnomefreakk12:18
asacbluekuja: can you get it in debian?12:18
asacis it in packages.debian.org?12:19
bluekujaasac: nope12:19
bluekujaonly armel and kfreebsd12:19
bluekuja2.5-1: armel kfreebsd-amd6412:19
bluekujathis is really strange12:19
asachmm12:19
asacyeah12:19
asacis it in NEW?12:20
bluekujanope12:20
asacsure?12:20
bluekujalet me see again12:20
bluekujanope12:20
bluekujait's not in NEW12:20
bluekujait got accepted12:20
bluekujaand it builds correctly too12:21
bluekujahttp://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=agg12:21
bluekujab12:21
bluekuja*but12:21
asacbluekuja: have you tried to get it?12:21
bluekujatrying now12:21
asace.g. in sid by apt-get install libagg-dev ?12:21
asacif that works ... then don't bother12:21
bluekujatrying with chroot12:22
bluekujanow12:22
asactopic on #d-d says: PARTIALLY FUCKED: BTS12:22
bluekuja^^12:22
asacso maybe thats related12:22
asacbluekuja: you are not in #debian-devel :)12:23
bluekuja:D12:23
bluekujaI'm in 5 channels12:23
bluekujaof OFTC12:23
asacnot even in #ubuntu-devel :/12:23
bluekujayup12:23
asack12:23
asacthen it has a line12:24
asacthought you didn't know about oftc12:24
bluekuja:)12:24
bluekujaI'm on quite a lot of debian channels12:24
bluekujaasac: libagg-dev 2.5-1 [511kB] 12:26
asacgood ... then don't bother12:26
bluekujaSetting up libagg-dev (2.5-1)12:26
bluekujaworks12:26
asacthey almost certainly will know12:26
bluekujayeah12:26
bluekujasome problems12:26
asacand will fix the website ... at some point12:26
asac:)12:26
bluekujayup12:26
bluekuja:)12:26
gnomefreakok lets find out its been commited12:27
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asachehe12:27
asacyeah :)12:27
asacgnomefreak: actually you are really committed :)12:28
gnomefreak:)12:28
asacat least that is my perception12:28

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