| kruuli | superm1 solved it :) | 12:45 |
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| superm1 | solved what? | 12:45 |
| kruuli | the picture interlacing | 12:45 |
| kruuli | overlaying and flickering | 12:45 |
| kruuli | it was the teletext option enabled | 12:46 |
| superm1 | oh | 12:46 |
| superm1 | i've heard that to cause issues for people | 12:46 |
| kruuli | disabled it and got a perfect picture :) | 12:46 |
| kruuli | yeah | 12:46 |
| laga | ah, you're not using a full PAL/NTSC capture resolution? | 12:46 |
| kruuli | laga dunno? :p got analog cable with the pvr 150 card | 12:47 |
| laga | kruuli: PAL or NTSC? | 12:47 |
| kruuli | superm1 havent done that noobguide today .. got stuck with this .. promise ill do it later this weekend | 12:47 |
| kruuli | laga pal | 12:47 |
| laga | use 720x576 in your recording profile then.. AFAIK, teletext will break otherwise | 12:49 |
| laga | dunno if it'd fix your issue, though | 12:49 |
| laga | just making uneducated guesses :) | 12:49 |
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| superm1 | dude we're on wikipedia! | 12:49 |
| superm1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythbuntu | 12:49 |
| superm1 | haha | 12:49 |
| laga | nice | 12:51 |
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| superm1 | Daviey, any news today before you run off to bed the next hour or two? | 12:58 |
| Daviey | Ahh superm1, you return! | 01:01 |
| superm1 | Daviey, i've been here the last 3 hours :) | 01:01 |
| superm1 | i pinged you before | 01:01 |
| Daviey | So you have... :/ | 01:01 |
| superm1 | er at least said your name to responding to your question | 01:01 |
| Daviey | right erm | 01:02 |
| Daviey | Where can i find the dev scripts? | 01:02 |
| superm1 | which devscripts? | 01:02 |
| Daviey | exactly | 01:03 |
| superm1 | better answer: what are they for? | 01:03 |
| Daviey | ./update | 01:03 |
| superm1 | you need germinate | 01:03 |
| superm1 | thats it | 01:03 |
| superm1 | i thougth | 01:03 |
| Daviey | if ! which dch >/dev/null; then echo >&2 "please install devscripts" | 01:04 |
| superm1 | oh | 01:04 |
| superm1 | apt-get instal devscripts | 01:04 |
| superm1 | apt-get install devscripts | 01:04 |
| superm1 | how have you been writing changelogs without those!? | 01:04 |
| laga | <3 dch | 01:04 |
| Daviey | erm, manully | 01:05 |
| superm1 | yuck | 01:05 |
| superm1 | dch ftw | 01:05 |
| Daviey | didn't know there was a tool :s | 01:06 |
| Daviey | always wondered how/why people where so accurate with the seconds | 01:06 |
| Daviey | :) | 01:06 |
| superm1 | and how did you sign packages? | 01:06 |
| laga | dch -v | 01:06 |
| superm1 | without debsign? | 01:06 |
| superm1 | you'll likely need to commit your changes for the seeds before running update though (unless you changed it to a local server for now) | 01:09 |
| Daviey | Right; i've got tommorow afternoon off work... so now i have all the tools; i'll finish it tommorow :) | 01:11 |
| superm1 | great | 01:13 |
| superm1 | ideally i'd like to announce alpha 2 monday | 01:13 |
| Daviey | reckon it's ready for a big announcement? | 01:13 |
| superm1 | so by tomorrow night have things ready to go | 01:13 |
| superm1 | test as much as possible this weekend | 01:13 |
| superm1 | and then mirror sunday | 01:14 |
| superm1 | get a torrent of it made | 01:14 |
| superm1 | and announce monday morning | 01:14 |
| Daviey | yep, but shall we keep it a low key anouncment | 01:14 |
| Daviey | ? | 01:14 |
| superm1 | i'm fairly confident on the installer | 01:14 |
| superm1 | its come a long way | 01:14 |
| Daviey | yeah, it's great... I tried it the other day | 01:14 |
| Daviey | good work | 01:14 |
| superm1 | thx :) | 01:14 |
| superm1 | and after alpha 2 is announced, we need to speak lirc and mythbuntu control centre stuff | 01:15 |
| superm1 | and get a timeline put on them | 01:15 |
| superm1 | i've only got one-three more pieces I want to see in the installer post alpha 2 at this point | 01:16 |
| Daviey | I was thinking; would it be worth looking at gnome-control-centre | 01:17 |
| superm1 | either that or even the new compiz control center | 01:17 |
| superm1 | have you tried it yet? | 01:17 |
| Daviey | nope | 01:17 |
| superm1 | its come a long way, and has a very gnome control center feel | 01:18 |
| superm1 | but with settings integrated very well | 01:18 |
| Daviey | hopefully it's dynamic modules that load at runtime | 01:18 |
| Daviey | that would be awesome!! | 01:18 |
| superm1 | dont know how it works, but its slick either way. likely better then a first run pygtk app | 01:20 |
| superm1 | Daviey, i'm gonna run home in a few min, anything else before i take off? | 01:25 |
| Daviey | should be it | 01:25 |
| superm1 | alrighty, cya then | 01:25 |
| Daviey | drive safe.. | 01:25 |
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| superm1 | keescook, is it allowed to use sed to modify a configuration file in a postinst if you ask the user before you do it? | 02:11 |
| superm1 | (and) record their choice so you can run the reverse on it when you are done? | 02:11 |
| keescook | superm1: I'm not sure -- I would imagine so since you asked. | 02:11 |
| superm1 | perhaps i better poke in #debian-mentors before I add this then | 02:12 |
| kruuli | nn! | 02:12 |
| keescook | wouldn't hurt. :) | 02:12 |
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| superm1 | keescook, for future reference, they said its alright as long as its asked. don't revert it though when postrm'ing | 02:18 |
| superm1 | well actually i poked a little closer. its not valid still | 02:47 |
| superm1 | the only way your allowed to modify conf files | 02:48 |
| superm1 | is via binaries shipped with the ther package | 02:48 |
| superm1 | the other package's postinst | 02:48 |
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| luckyone | I am trying to get the mythbuntu cd to boot on my pc with no success | 04:21 |
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| jason__ | hello all, i got a | 06:36 |
| jason__ | *question | 06:37 |
| jason__ | i recently got a new geforce 6200 to help run hd content smoother on my myth system, and the cpu is still under heavy load and can sometimes cause choppy playback | 06:38 |
| jason__ | ive been looking around for tips to get mythtv to use my video card and improve performance, but i still have problems. | 06:38 |
| jason__ | ive got a amd athlon 2500+ with a gig of ram. the cpu while watching recorded (non-transcoded) tv is usually around 60-80%, while watching live tv, or recording and playing back tv at the same time, my cpu usage is 80-100% | 06:40 |
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| superm1 | jason__, you saw my responses before i lost my connection right? | 07:34 |
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| anodesni | Hi | 02:18 |
| anodesni | I have a xdtv question | 02:18 |
| anodesni | when I record with xdtv | 02:18 |
| anodesni | the record audio source at 'volume control manager' in ubuntu is set to line in recording | 02:19 |
| anodesni | but my audio source for the tv is cd recording | 02:19 |
| anodesni | so my recordings don't have sound | 02:20 |
| laga | what's your question? | 02:20 |
| anodesni | unless I manually set the switch 'CD recording' on at the volume control manager | 02:20 |
| anodesni | so how can I prevend xdtv from switching the audio recording source to line in recording? | 02:22 |
| laga | do you realize that this channel is about a PVR software called "MythTV"? you'd better talk to the xdtv developers or support groups | 02:23 |
| anodesni | yes I now | 02:23 |
| anodesni | but xdtv doesn't have a IRC channel | 02:23 |
| anodesni | and i've tried on forums, but they don't respond | 02:23 |
| anodesni | How is the audio source for recordings handled in mythtv? | 02:24 |
| laga | you set it up yourself in the mixer | 02:25 |
| anodesni | and the mixer is part of mythtv? | 02:25 |
| laga | no, it's part of the system. think alsamixer or kmix | 02:26 |
| anodesni | So mythtv doesn't select the audio source for you? | 02:26 |
| laga | no. you have to select the audio source manually | 02:27 |
| anodesni | ok | 02:27 |
| laga | maybe you can modify the code of xdtv | 02:28 |
| anodesni | I'm not a programmer | 02:28 |
| anodesni | Maybe I just install Mythtv | 02:28 |
| laga | does xdtv indeed reset the capture source or does your setting just not presist across reboots? | 02:28 |
| laga | you don't have to be a programmer, maybe it's just a simple setting in the source code | 02:29 |
| anodesni | no, xdtv sets the capture source to line in | 02:29 |
| anodesni | whenever you start a recording | 02:29 |
| laga | hm | 02:29 |
| laga | i wonder if you could fix that in alsamixer -V capture, but i doubt it | 02:30 |
| laga | i'm not terribly familiar with audio capturing on linux | 02:30 |
| laga | my TV cards just give me a MPEG2 stream :) | 02:30 |
| anodesni | well there is a workaround | 02:31 |
| anodesni | I can put a jack plug in my audio out of my tv card to my line in of my sound card | 02:31 |
| anodesni | But the quality sucks | 02:31 |
| anodesni | Well, I gotta go, thanks anyway | 02:32 |
| laga | good luck :) | 02:32 |
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| DaveMorris | laga: he was here yesterday as well, but he had no sound then | 03:24 |
| laga | he's still wasting his time in here, IMHO | 03:24 |
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| Daviey | superm1: ping-a-ding | 04:17 |
| superm1 | morning Daviey | 04:17 |
| Daviey | oh goody; you're here | 04:17 |
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| kruuli | good afternoon Daviey and superm1 | 04:48 |
| superm1 | mornin keescook | 04:48 |
| superm1 | mornin kruuli | 04:48 |
| kruuli | i have yet another question! (iknow it never ends!) .. lets say i wanna extract files to a destination only root can extract to .. if i use steam roller it only says i dont have permission how do i solve that? | 04:49 |
| kruuli | i know the command gksudo nautilus that gives me a root window .. but seems like there should be a more simple solution | 04:50 |
| Daviey | hey kruuli | 04:52 |
| Daviey | GUI means i think that's the only way | 04:53 |
| Daviey | Are you using gnome? | 04:53 |
| kruuli | yeah gnome | 04:56 |
| kruuli | what do you mean by "GUI means"? | 04:56 |
| kruuli | graphical user interface? :> | 04:56 |
| Daviey | sorry, i mean.. if you want to use a GUI then you're pretty stuck with needing gksudo to gain root privs | 04:58 |
| Daviey | what you can do tho is use a nautilus 'script' | 04:58 |
| Daviey | that could automate it somewhat | 04:58 |
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| keescook | mornin' :) | 05:01 |
| kruuli | Daviey ah ok .. well its not that big of a deal thanks :) | 05:02 |
| kruuli | mornin keescook | 05:03 |
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| anodesni | . | 05:06 |
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| EcHeLoN | Hi, I would like to install a combined mythtv frontend/backend and use the machine as regular desktop. Do you think my PC meets the system requirements? My specs are: AMD AthlonXP 2000+, 512mb DDR, Geforce 5500 128mb, 80gb harddrive and tv card: pctv stereo from pinnacle. It doesn't have a hardware mpeg2 decoder. | 05:11 |
| EcHeLoN | Nobody help me? | 05:15 |
| tgm4883 | what do you plan to view HD or SD | 05:15 |
| EcHeLoN | SD | 05:16 |
| tgm4883 | You should be fine | 05:16 |
| EcHeLoN | ok tnx | 05:16 |
| tgm4883 | anyone use dreamweaver? | 05:17 |
| EcHeLoN | I have a remote control for my tv card. Can I use it with mythtv? It is a rf remote | 05:17 |
| tgm4883 | What remote? | 05:18 |
| EcHeLoN | euhh | 05:18 |
| EcHeLoN | it's from Medion | 05:19 |
| tgm4883 | any numbers on it? | 05:19 |
| EcHeLoN | well | 05:19 |
| EcHeLoN | Medion: RF remote control | 05:19 |
| kruuli | tgm4883 yeah some | 05:19 |
| EcHeLoN | p/n: 20016398 | 05:19 |
| EcHeLoN | FCC ID: B4S20016398 | 05:20 |
| EcHeLoN | CE 05 | 05:20 |
| EcHeLoN | it's a RC from X10 | 05:20 |
| tgm4883 | kruuli, do you happen to know how to fix this http://test.weilandhomes.com/homesforsale/sunnysideridge/flicker/index.html | 05:20 |
| tgm4883 | EcHeLoN, it looks like it will work, but I can't read the page cause it's in german | 05:22 |
| EcHeLoN | ok tnx | 05:23 |
| tgm4883 | EcHeLoN, looks like the atiusb module | 05:23 |
| tgm4883 | are you following the community guide? | 05:24 |
| EcHeLoN | should I download that module | 05:24 |
| kruuli | your using tables for those pictures? | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | no, are you following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | kruuli, yea | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | is that bad | 05:25 |
| kruuli | no | 05:25 |
| EcHeLoN | Ok thanks for your help | 05:25 |
| kruuli | any stylesheets involved? | 05:25 |
| tgm4883 | EcHeLon, Hope your using this guide for your install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV | 05:25 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 05:25 |
| EcHeLoN | ok | 05:25 |
| tgm4883 | yea 1 css | 05:26 |
| tgm4883 | I fixed the bottom part of the problem, but the top row is still like that. | 05:26 |
| tgm4883 | Is there a better way to do my desired effect than using a table? I just wanted 3 colums | 05:27 |
| kruuli | hard to say by just looking at it .. what happens if you try to move it down? | 05:27 |
| tgm4883 | Nothing happens, i have tried moving it down a few times, both the table, and the contents of each columns (In the first row) | 05:28 |
| tgm4883 | I haven't tried making an empty first row though | 05:28 |
| kruuli | are you doing that in the code or in the design tab of DW? | 05:29 |
| tgm4883 | design tab | 05:29 |
| tgm4883 | If I could code it i'd be using gedit :) | 05:29 |
| kruuli | <td height="746" valign="top"> | 05:30 |
| tgm4883 | If it matters there is also a locked page template that each page uses and 1 editable area | 05:30 |
| tgm4883 | use that? | 05:30 |
| kruuli | you are using that | 05:30 |
| kruuli | set the align in % instead | 05:31 |
| kruuli | im no pro but if you do that it should be dynamic and you can try your way until it fits nicley | 05:31 |
| kruuli | or you could just put the table in a layer | 05:31 |
| kruuli | that whould be the easiest way | 05:32 |
| tgm4883 | Ok, 1 question | 05:32 |
| tgm4883 | just realized its a table in a table (did the main template awhile ago) | 05:32 |
| tgm4883 | so the 746 is for the template table and that should be a percentage? | 05:33 |
| kruuli | yeah try that first .. otherwise put it in a layer | 05:35 |
| tgm4883 | ok, thanks | 05:37 |
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| Obeah | Is there an alternative to Zap2it? | 05:42 |
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| superm1 | DaveMorris, was that correct metauml_lib? | 05:55 |
| superm1 | is what you were referring ot | 05:55 |
| DaveMorris | latex-metauml is prob a better name | 05:59 |
| DaveMorris | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/123073 | 05:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 123073 in Ubuntu "Package "UML for LaTeX/MetaPost"" [Undecided,New] | 05:59 |
| superm1 | after we announce alpha 2 sure | 06:00 |
| superm1 | shouldn't be too much trouble | 06:00 |
| DaveMorris | which is when? | 06:00 |
| superm1 | Monday is the plan | 06:00 |
| superm1 | installer stuff is ready to go, just need the meta finished up from Daviey and we're set | 06:01 |
| superm1 | DaveMorris, who was it that we needed to host a torrent? | 06:05 |
| superm1 | or who was it that mentioned the name before, tgm4883 was it you? | 06:06 |
| DaveMorris | popey in #ubuntu-uk, get Daviey to ask him | 06:10 |
| DaveMorris | I suggest we host the iso's off the site, and just host the md5sum and torrent files on the site | 06:11 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, i just made the torrent and put it up at work, it was all tracked by linuxtracker.org i think | 06:12 |
| superm1 | What tracker does popey host them through? | 06:14 |
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| superm1 | if we can host them through the ubuntu trackert wouldn't that be preferable? | 06:15 |
| superm1 | if that's what popey uses | 06:15 |
| tgm4883 | that would be preferable | 06:15 |
| superm1 | tgm4883, will you be around Sunday? | 06:17 |
| tgm4883 | I dont think I need to make the torrent this time though, it was pretty easy | 06:17 |
| superm1 | oh okay | 06:17 |
| superm1 | what's required to do so? | 06:17 |
| tgm4883 | I made it with azaraus, but if you want to do it from the command line there is software preinstalled | 06:18 |
| tgm4883 | btcompletedir | 06:18 |
| tgm4883 | do that in terminal, pretty easy from there | 06:18 |
| tgm4883 | you just need the announce directory | 06:18 |
| superm1 | as in the announce URL | 06:18 |
| superm1 | that will be hosting it? | 06:18 |
| tgm4883 | whoops | 06:18 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 06:18 |
| tgm4883 | sec | 06:18 |
| superm1 | so you need to know ahead of time what the tracker will be before its generated then | 06:19 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 06:19 |
| tgm4883 | you should just be able to do it with btcompletedir "announce url" "file to share" | 06:20 |
| tgm4883 | once you have the url first | 06:21 |
| superm1 | once its submitted how soon do you jump in for seeding it? | 06:23 |
| tgm4883 | for like linuxtracker? | 06:23 |
| superm1 | well once the torrent is submitted, how do the first seeds get started? | 06:24 |
| tgm4883 | its pretty much as soon as you submit it I think. on linuxtracker it takes a few minutes to show up on their page, so you may have to wait for it to show up | 06:24 |
| tgm4883 | either way its pretty quick | 06:24 |
| superm1 | so you put the files your were going to use in the download location, and then just start start your bt client app? | 06:25 |
| superm1 | (to be a first seed) | 06:25 |
| tgm4883 | If you move the torrent files after you create the torrent, when you start your torrent to seed you will have to point it to the right dir | 06:26 |
| tgm4883 | and if we get the iso first through the website or wherever, we can add seeds pretty quickly | 06:27 |
| superm1 | okay, what is the diff between btdownloadcurses and btdownloadheadless then? | 06:27 |
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| tgm4883 | i did it all through azarus | 06:28 |
| tgm4883 | if you have that installed, id use it | 06:28 |
| superm1 | well i do, but this will all be done on pegasus too | 06:28 |
| superm1 | which is headless | 06:28 |
| tgm4883 | heres the quick quide from linuxtorrents | 06:28 |
| tgm4883 | pegasus? | 06:28 |
| superm1 | oh, mythbuntu.org | 06:29 |
| superm1 | its hostname is pegasus | 06:29 |
| tgm4883 | ah | 06:29 |
| tgm4883 | so mythbuntu.org is also going to be a seed? | 06:29 |
| superm1 | i was thinking thats the most ideal way to go | 06:29 |
| tgm4883 | so this is what you want to do | 06:29 |
| superm1 | cap its bandwidth to say 70mbps up or something? | 06:29 |
| superm1 | and then add it as a seed | 06:30 |
| tgm4883 | you only want to create the torrent on 1 machine | 06:30 |
| superm1 | right | 06:30 |
| tgm4883 | and then just upload the torrent file and the iso | 06:30 |
| tgm4883 | oh wait, you knew that, you were asking a different question | 06:31 |
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| frego_ | anyone in here know how to tell what version of knoppmyth my box is? | 06:31 |
| superm1 | frego_, not so sure, #knoppmyth is probably the best bet | 06:31 |
| frego_ | I thought it was an environment variable $knoppmythversion? | 06:31 |
| superm1 | we do things significantly different | 06:32 |
| tgm4883 | i would guess that the difference between the btdownloadcurses and btdownloadheadless is that one returns you to the command line and runs in the background | 06:32 |
| superm1 | in mythbuntu | 06:32 |
| superm1 | so perhaps the best way is to to the curses version in screen so i can watch stats | 06:32 |
| superm1 | as i ssh in | 06:32 |
| frego_ | superm1> ty! | 06:32 |
| tgm4883 | your guess is as good as mine | 06:33 |
| tgm4883 | is the iso hosted off the same machine as the torrent will seed? | 06:33 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, ping. What do you think is the best way to go about it for the release. Pegasus being a seed? | 06:33 |
| superm1 | yes | 06:33 |
| superm1 | probably just add a .htaccess | 06:34 |
| superm1 | to the iso directory | 06:34 |
| superm1 | when we announce | 06:34 |
| tgm4883 | We have no other mirrors? | 06:34 |
| superm1 | well someone mirrored it for us before | 06:34 |
| tgm4883 | true | 06:34 |
| superm1 | but i dont know who that was | 06:34 |
| tgm4883 | We should shoot that guy a message | 06:34 |
| superm1 | if pegasus is helping seed it though, it will work out a lot better i'd think | 06:35 |
| tgm4883 | I saw it listed on digg, so maybe we can email him through there | 06:35 |
| superm1 | yea thats a good idea | 06:35 |
| tgm4883 | i'll look it up | 06:35 |
| superm1 | could you shoot him a mail and see if he would be able to | 06:35 |
| tgm4883 | do you remember the mirror? | 06:35 |
| superm1 | http://mirror.polorix.net/Mythbuntu/mythbuntu-7.04%7E070603-i386.iso | 06:35 |
| tgm4883 | dont know if we saw this, but its mythbuntu news http://www.hydrapinion.com/index.php/play/2007/06/08/p0 | 06:37 |
| tgm4883 | from june 8th | 06:37 |
| tgm4883 | anyone have gtalk? | 06:38 |
| superm1 | yea we did spread across far areas of the web | 06:38 |
| superm1 | everyone with gmail has it :) | 06:38 |
| tgm4883 | i have no gmail | 06:38 |
| superm1 | well i mean that anyone who has a gmail account has a google talk account automatically | 06:39 |
| tgm4883 | polorix@gmail.com, i'll still send him an email unless someone wants to see if he's on | 06:39 |
| superm1 | i think email is a better way either way | 06:39 |
| superm1 | so as to not put him on the spot | 06:39 |
| tgm4883 | ok, ill send it | 06:40 |
| tgm4883 | sweet, my gmail account is still open from 04 | 06:40 |
| tgm4883 | are we talking hosting for alpha 2? | 06:41 |
| superm1 | yes | 06:41 |
| superm1 | the ISO will be generated either friday or saturday | 06:41 |
| tgm4883 | for release on? | 06:41 |
| superm1 | monday | 06:41 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, whats your email | 06:43 |
| superm1 | superm1@ubuntu.com | 06:43 |
| superm1 | or superm1@mythbuntu.org | 06:43 |
| superm1 | either will work | 06:43 |
| tgm4883 | I'm going to shoot this to you first, I aways feel like what i write isn't very good and a quick onceover always help | 06:44 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, ygm | 06:46 |
| tgm4883 | also just realized, it would probably look better comming from a mythbuntu.org address rather than my weilandhomes.com address | 06:47 |
| superm1 | sure i'll shoot it off then | 06:47 |
| tgm4883 | thanks | 06:47 |
| tgm4883 | make any changes necessary | 06:47 |
| superm1 | k | 06:47 |
| tgm4883 | just let me know so i can improve | 06:48 |
| superm1 | i'll cc you on it | 06:48 |
| tgm4883 | thanks | 06:48 |
| tgm4883 | gotta run, coffee time, back in 30 | 06:48 |
| superm1 | k | 06:48 |
| kruuli | i can now stream my recordings over mythweb \o/ :D | 06:49 |
| superm1 | kruuli, what did you install? | 06:50 |
| superm1 | mythstream? | 06:50 |
| kruuli | nah mythflash | 06:50 |
| superm1 | mythflash? | 06:50 |
| kruuli | yeah | 06:50 |
| superm1 | the one in trunk? | 06:50 |
| kruuli | http://chiefhacker.com/2007/01/22/streaming-mythtv-from-mythweb-using-flash/ | 06:50 |
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| superm1 | well that looks pretty neat | 06:53 |
| superm1 | did the ffmpeg on medibuntu have mp3lame support? | 06:53 |
| kruuli | no gotta solve that | 06:54 |
| kruuli | got no sound atm | 06:54 |
| superm1 | ah, so do you have medibuntu repo added then right now? | 06:54 |
| superm1 | or going to try that as an option | 06:54 |
| kruuli | dunno what mediabuntu is :p | 06:54 |
| superm1 | !medibuntu | 06:55 |
| ubotu | medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 06:55 |
| kruuli | cool . sudo apt-get mediabuntu? | 06:55 |
| superm1 | see the site | 06:55 |
| superm1 | they detail how to set things up | 06:55 |
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| rogue780 | someone should package mythflash for ubuntu | 07:06 |
| superm1 | rogue780, problem is that it need ffmpeg with mp3lame support | 07:07 |
| rogue780 | anyway, it might be something nice to have for mythbuntu. has there been any thought put into making mythbuntu specific repositories? | 07:10 |
| superm1 | well there is one already | 07:11 |
| rogue780 | eh? | 07:11 |
| superm1 | but a stipulation of the acknowledgment of us was to make sure all changes are committed upstream | 07:11 |
| superm1 | (ubuntu) | 07:11 |
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| kruuli | wtf .. the user www-data (apache) needs to have access to mythtv recordings .. ive added www-data to group mythtv and ive opened up the folder for every user and it still complains it cant write to it :o | 07:24 |
| kruuli | worked before the restart :/ | 07:25 |
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| kruuli | superm1 medibuntu did the trick :) | 07:37 |
| kruuli | got sound now on my flashmovies | 07:38 |
| kruuli | mythflash was actually real nice .. watching fullscreen is np | 07:38 |
| superm1 | how is the quality? | 07:55 |
| superm1 | and how long does re-encoding take? | 07:57 |
| superm1 | (on the fly?) | 07:57 |
| DaveMorris | superm1: you want me to test the alpha2 before hand to make sure there are no stupid bugs again! | 08:02 |
| kruuli | encoding is not that fast | 08:03 |
| kruuli | but you can start watching before its done | 08:03 |
| kruuli | quality is ok | 08:03 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, forgot to tell you one thing about making the torrent in azaurus | 08:14 |
| tgm4883 | It wouldn't make it for me if i did just the file, had to put it in a directory then torrent the directory, but it made torrents for every directory it found, so I had to put in in two directories (ie desktop/mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu.iso | 08:16 |
| kruuli | tgm4883 did you manage to solve the homepage issue? | 08:19 |
| tgm4883 | yea, although i took a different approach for now | 08:19 |
| kruuli | cool | 08:19 |
| tgm4883 | it must have something to do with my css | 08:19 |
| tgm4883 | as soon as i removed the hyperlinks from the pictures it cleaned right up | 08:20 |
| tgm4883 | Although now that i see the layer thing I may go that route in the future | 08:20 |
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| kruuli | yeah layers is the shit :) | 09:00 |
| Daviey | superm1: you actually got ./update working? | 09:04 |
| superm1 | Daviey, haven't tried :) | 09:05 |
| superm1 | seeds weren't ready | 09:05 |
| Daviey | doh | 09:05 |
| Daviey | i had to make http;//myth'/files/seeds/gutsy a bzr branch | 09:06 |
| superm1 | why? | 09:07 |
| Daviey | that's what germinate wants | 09:07 |
| superm1 | why not add it to the exisitng branch? | 09:07 |
| superm1 | thats silly | 09:07 |
| superm1 | silly germinate | 09:08 |
| Daviey | well the seed list needs to be a bzr branch.. | 09:08 |
| Daviey | could be a mythbuntu LP branch | 09:08 |
| superm1 | ah | 09:08 |
| Daviey | [i386] Loading seed lists... | 09:08 |
| Daviey | * Fetching branch of http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/seeds/gutsy/ | 09:08 |
| Daviey | seed_base needs to be a branch | 09:09 |
| superm1 | well so it could be a LP branch | 09:09 |
| superm1 | would a LP branch would make more sense? | 09:09 |
| Daviey | yeah, i'll leave it as is atm.. then fix it last | 09:09 |
| Daviey | LP would make more sense | 09:09 |
| superm1 | k | 09:09 |
| superm1 | DaveMorris, yes please do test alpha 2 before hand | 09:12 |
| superm1 | as soon as we have the ISO generated | 09:12 |
| superm1 | i'll let you knbow | 09:12 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris: are you gonna build the am64 iso? | 09:13 |
| superm1 | he'll need a 64 bit ubiquity first | 09:13 |
| Daviey | ah | 09:13 |
| superm1 | i'll have to see if i can get that built | 09:13 |
| Daviey | will the be problamatic merging i386 to am64 ubiquity? | 09:14 |
| superm1 | na it shouldnt be | 09:14 |
| superm1 | no arch specific changes in my patch | 09:14 |
| Daviey | have you been able to draw a .patch file from your changes comapred to upstream? | 09:15 |
| Daviey | I'm gonna install gutsy debootstrap on pegasus.. that won't cause probs? | 09:18 |
| superm1 | i have a patch done via debdiff | 09:20 |
| superm1 | its already on there | 09:20 |
| superm1 | all of these ISOs have been done via gutsy debootrstrap | 09:20 |
| superm1 | its roughly 5k lines | 09:20 |
| Daviey | erm | 09:20 |
| superm1 | the patch | 09:20 |
| superm1 | and applies cleanly without breaking any of their stuff right now | 09:21 |
| superm1 | its against their bzr branch, not the release version | 09:21 |
| Daviey | I just installed gutsy debootstrap as germinate was whinging it was an old version | 09:21 |
| superm1 | well there might have been a "newer" debootstrap | 09:21 |
| superm1 | then the one i put on pegasus already | 09:21 |
| superm1 | but the one on there was a gutsy | 09:21 |
| Daviey | ah okay, i just updated it then | 09:22 |
| Daviey | superm1: i am awesome | 10:32 |
| superm1 | Daviey, you are awesome | 10:36 |
| superm1 | now is it working ;)? | 10:36 |
| Daviey | getting there | 10:38 |
| Daviey | just need to work out how to make 2 repo's co-exisit | 10:39 |
| superm1 | like which two? | 10:39 |
| Daviey | actually.... problem | 10:39 |
| Daviey | mythbuntu's and ubuntu's | 10:39 |
| superm1 | oh... | 10:39 |
| superm1 | because not all our packages are in yet | 10:39 |
| Daviey | but if we want this package in ubiverse then it can't include any packages that are in mythbuntus | 10:39 |
| superm1 | okay. atm there are only two on mythbuntu.org that are needed. leave them out for now | 10:40 |
| superm1 | all the stuff in mythbuntu's is eventually getting into universe, but not yet | 10:40 |
| superm1 | the two that arent in yet are | 10:40 |
| superm1 | gtk2-engines-mythbuntu | 10:40 |
| superm1 | and ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu | 10:40 |
| superm1 | we can just manually install them for now, and later on add them as dependencies | 10:40 |
| Daviey | can we not try and get one uploaded this we? | 10:40 |
| Daviey | weekend? | 10:41 |
| superm1 | well i got gtk2-engines-mythbuntu uploaded | 10:41 |
| superm1 | its just not ack'ed yet | 10:41 |
| superm1 | by the ubuntu archive admins | 10:41 |
| superm1 | and the ubiquity patch, i'm waiting on the installer team to ack it | 10:41 |
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| superm1 | so in an effort to get this through - leave them out | 10:41 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, we're releasing alpha 2 this weekend | 10:42 |
| superm1 | sunday the ISOs should be generated | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | very good | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | any final testing to do? | 10:43 |
| superm1 | yes there will be | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | i have some time tomorrow | 10:43 |
| superm1 | tomorrow and sunday | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | might be able to test later sunday afternoon if needed | 10:43 |
| superm1 | okay just be on when you can, and i'll ping and let you know when things are ready | 10:44 |
| superm1 | i'm uploading my last set of ubiquity changes later tonight | 10:44 |
| majoridiot | k | 10:44 |
| majoridiot | just email me a link to the iso and i'll grab it first thing | 10:45 |
| superm1 | will do | 10:45 |
| Daviey | right, now i feel 100% comfortable with meta's | 10:47 |
| Daviey | yah! | 10:47 |
| Daviey | so what packages did you propose the other day | 10:48 |
| superm1 | Daviey, glad you figured it out :) | 10:48 |
| Daviey | mythbuntu-live | 10:48 |
| superm1 | and mythbuntu-standalone | 10:48 |
| Daviey | really shouldn't have taken this long! | 10:48 |
| Daviey | a few lines of comments / documentation would have saved hours | 10:48 |
| Daviey | just the two packages? | 10:48 |
| superm1 | just the two | 10:51 |
| Daviey | what should be in standalone? | 10:51 |
| superm1 | live installs everything on in the build script | 10:51 |
| superm1 | standalone takes out anything live related | 10:51 |
| superm1 | ubiquiyt | 10:51 |
| superm1 | casper | 10:51 |
| superm1 | etc | 10:51 |
| Daviey | okay | 10:51 |
| Daviey | so effectively apt-get remove mythbuntu-live && apt-get install mythbuntu-standalone | 10:52 |
| Daviey | ? | 10:52 |
| superm1 | well mythbuntu-live will depend on mythbuntu-standalone the way i see it | 10:52 |
| superm1 | mythbuntu-live is more of a clean way to do the disk build | 10:53 |
| superm1 | and mythbuntu-standalone ensures that "most" of the packages that you need for the box to be working are there | 10:53 |
| Daviey | but then removing *-live will try and remove *-standalone? | 10:53 |
| Daviey | or that can be held i suppose | 10:53 |
| Daviey | okay, that seems logical | 10:54 |
| superm1 | but stuff like mythtv-frontend and ubuntu-mythtv-frontend should only be in live | 10:55 |
| superm1 | and mythtv-backend | 10:55 |
| superm1 | because they won't be present on all machines | 10:55 |
| superm1 | whereas mythtv-common will | 10:55 |
| Daviey | yep | 10:56 |
| Daviey | any other packages you can think of? | 10:56 |
| superm1 | vlc, mplayer, xine | 10:56 |
| superm1 | samba | 10:57 |
| superm1 | openssh-server | 10:57 |
| Daviey | so currently standalone only consits of mythtv-common? | 10:57 |
| superm1 | well mythtv-common, and ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal | 10:57 |
| superm1 | and gdm | 10:57 |
| superm1 | and mythbuntu-gdm-theme | 10:57 |
| Daviey | yeah | 10:57 |
| superm1 | and probably lots of others that i cant think of offhand | 10:57 |
| superm1 | the exact details can be worked out later, at very worst if your not sure, leave in mythbuntu-live | 10:58 |
| Daviey | once i push this into the repo, editing will be easy | 10:58 |
| superm1 | yes | 10:58 |
| superm1 | luckily by doing it this way, not only is editting easy, but its imm reflected in an easy to represent way in the builds | 10:58 |
| Daviey | true | 10:59 |
| superm1 | you saw the stuff i have in preinst/postinst right? | 11:00 |
| Daviey | ideally to keep merges easy i would likemythbuntu-live to depend on ubuntu-live | 11:00 |
| Daviey | whyda reckon? | 11:00 |
| superm1 | didn't even know there was an ubuntu-live | 11:01 |
| superm1 | let me see whats in it | 11:01 |
| Daviey | yeah | 11:01 |
| superm1 | malimonc@waluigi:~$ apt-cache depends ubuntu-live | 11:01 |
| superm1 | W: Unable to locate package ubuntu-live | 11:01 |
| superm1 | where is it? | 11:01 |
| Daviey | pastebin? | 11:01 |
| superm1 | i dont see it anywhere in apt | 11:02 |
| Daviey | it's not | 11:02 |
| Daviey | it seems it doesn't actually get created | 11:02 |
| Daviey | but it is a seed | 11:02 |
| superm1 | so you propose making a third package called ubuntu-live? | 11:02 |
| Daviey | that we can depend upon | 11:02 |
| superm1 | or just a seed | 11:03 |
| Daviey | no use the seed ubuntu-live | 11:03 |
| superm1 | okay lets see whats in it | 11:03 |
| superm1 | pastebin is fine | 11:03 |
| superm1 | (i just dont want to increase the ISO size significantly from unnecessary stuff) | 11:03 |
| Daviey | http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/seeds/mythbuntu.gutsy/live | 11:04 |
| Daviey | oh | 11:04 |
| Daviey | no we don't want that; it includes ubuntu artwork | 11:04 |
| Daviey | and gnome language packs | 11:04 |
| Daviey | scrap that idea | 11:04 |
| Daviey | brb | 11:07 |
| superm1 | we do need those other things though, xfsprogs, jfsutils | 11:08 |
| superm1 | didn't even consider that | 11:08 |
| superm1 | and ntfsprogs | 11:08 |
| superm1 | Daviey, i'll brb. i'm running to the dealer to grab my car. Should be back within the next 30-50 min. | 11:22 |
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| jasonbuntu | any mythtv pros in here? ive got a amd athlon 2500+ with a 1gig of ram and a geforce 6200 and am having trouble getting smooth hdtv playback. | 11:59 |
| jasonbuntu | been trying lots of tips and tricks and still nothing gets perfect playback. recorded shows can play back fine, but live tv and/or watching a recording while recording something else does not run smooth at all | 12:01 |
| jasonbuntu | ive seen systems with lower processors that say they get great playback. | 12:01 |
| jasonbuntu | this is s frontend/backend combo system | 12:02 |
| Daviey | Sorry jasonbuntu, we don't have HD in the UK yet | 12:07 |
| Daviey | so i have no experience with HD livetv | 12:07 |
| jasonbuntu | ;-( | 12:07 |
| jasonbuntu | ok thanks | 12:07 |
| Daviey | Have you tried #mythtv-users | 12:07 |
| Daviey | ? | 12:07 |
| jasonbuntu | trying now, thanks | 12:10 |
| tgm4883 | jasonbuntu, did you enable xvmc? | 12:10 |
| jasonbuntu | yeah, and even changed the xvmc conf to use the nvidia dll... it reduces cpu usage, but causes bad audio/vido lag | 12:11 |
| tgm4883 | Well I don't think your getting it to run smooth without it on that processor | 12:12 |
| tgm4883 | I could almost* do it on my 2000+ with xvmc | 12:13 |
| jasonbuntu | ;-( yeah, thats what i was afraid of... | 12:13 |
| tgm4883 | I would look into what was causing the a/v lag and see if it is fixable | 12:13 |
| tgm4883 | I'm not sure the system requirements for just recording HD, as it is already compressed. But if you have the resources you might try recording on a different computer and playing back on the 2500+ | 12:14 |
| jasonbuntu | yeah, im guessing so far that it is the mobo bus speeds, ive been playing with audio and video jitter bug fixes and nothing takes it away completely | 12:14 |
| tgm4883 | Is it just lag or is it randomly jittery? | 12:15 |
| tgm4883 | you checked dma is on? | 12:15 |
| jasonbuntu | hard to say | 12:15 |
| jasonbuntu | hmm | 12:15 |
| tgm4883 | not really, lag would just mean that the audio (or video) is constantly a certain number of seconds behind the other | 12:15 |
| jasonbuntu | dma may be the issue, never played with that on this computer, not sure if ubuntu set it on be default | 12:16 |
| tgm4883 | while jittery would be smooth playing, but every once in a while it would hiccup | 12:16 |
| jasonbuntu | well, its brief pauses randomly created, and when im using xvmc, it even happens on SD content | 12:16 |
| jasonbuntu | yeah, so its jittery | 12:16 |
| tgm4883 | hmmm | 12:16 |
| tgm4883 | did you overclock your video card? | 12:17 |
| jasonbuntu | nope, stock | 12:18 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 12:18 |
| tgm4883 | what speed agp? | 12:18 |
| jasonbuntu | 8x | 12:19 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 12:19 |
| tgm4883 | well it sounds like a problem with the xvmc. I assume you've installed the 3d driver for your vid card? | 12:20 |
| jasonbuntu | yeah, the latest nvidia drivers | 12:20 |
| tgm4883 | did you turn interlace on? | 12:20 |
| tgm4883 | do you have commercial flagging on or off during recording | 12:21 |
| tgm4883 | sorry, deinterlace | 12:21 |
| jasonbuntu | i set the flagging and transcoding to only run at odd hours so it doesnt interfere with my recording | 12:21 |
| jasonbuntu | and commercial flagging while recording is off | 12:21 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 12:23 |
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| tgm4883 | sounds to me like you've done everything right and that xvmc isn't acting right with your video card | 12:23 |
| jasonbuntu | hmm | 12:23 |
| tgm4883 | :( | 12:23 |
| jasonbuntu | with the standard xvmc library the cpu usage is 80-100%, with the nvidia one it is 60-80%, but the jitters appear more frequently | 12:26 |
| jasonbuntu | yeah, this is pretty annoying ;-( | 12:27 |
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