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ardaz27 | anyone have experience getting linksys usb200m working with xubuntu? | 01:54 |
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Jester45 | !logs | 01:55 |
ubotu | Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | 01:55 |
ardaz27 | thanks | 01:55 |
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vidd_laptop | if your sudoer file gets corrupt, how can you fix it? | 03:49 |
vidd_laptop | without reinstalling? | 03:50 |
j1mc | vidd_laptop: did you try sudo visudo? | 03:52 |
vidd_laptop | got the same error message | 03:53 |
j1mc | what is the error message? | 03:53 |
vidd_laptop | >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 20 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20 | 03:54 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: well, go to the line 20 of that file and look what is wrong | 03:54 |
j1mc | does: sudo nano /etc/sudoers work? | 03:54 |
vidd_laptop | no | 03:54 |
j1mc | you can't open the file at all? | 03:54 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: why not? | 03:54 |
vidd_laptop | j1mc, no, same error | 03:55 |
TheSheep | ah, sudo | 03:55 |
TheSheep | :) | 03:55 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: boot into recovery mode :) | 03:55 |
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vidd_laptop | TheSheep, from grub? | 03:56 |
j1mc | vidd_laptop: how did it get corrupted? | 03:56 |
vidd_laptop | uhm....mistype | 03:57 |
vidd_laptop | was looking at the file.... | 03:57 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: well, you have to get into root acocunt somehow | 03:57 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: recovery mode is one way | 03:58 |
vidd_laptop | but will it work with sudo out of commission and no root passwrd? | 03:59 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: doesn't recovery mode give you the root console right after boot? | 04:00 |
vidd_laptop | idk...i never used it b4 | 04:00 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: if not there are other methods -- passing init=/bin/bash to kernel options or booting from livecd | 04:00 |
vidd_laptop | anything that can be done remotely? | 04:01 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: find a security hole and exploit it ;) | 04:01 |
j1mc | vidd_laptop: visudo validates the sudoers file prior to saving it. i admit to using sudo nano /etc/sudoers file previously myself, but ... not anymore. | 04:01 |
TheSheep | vidd_laptop: you *really* wouldn't want it to be possible remotely :) | 04:01 |
vidd_laptop | oh sweet..... | 04:02 |
vidd_laptop | i DID make a user that aliased root.... | 04:03 |
vidd_laptop | im in | 04:03 |
TheSheep | and use visudo :) | 04:04 |
TheSheep | even if you don't really know vi -- every admin should know vi | 04:05 |
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pinkwerks | Hi, just booted up xubuntu 7.04 live cd, xfce4-panel fails to start... is this fixed in a newer (beta) version of the cd? | 04:11 |
pinkwerks | i can start it manually just fine, but i'm trying to pass this off to my mom | 04:11 |
j1mc | pinkwerks: what are the specs on the system? | 04:12 |
pinkwerks | dell laptop, inspiron 9300 | 04:12 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: I think the problem only appears on some computers | 04:12 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: let me check the bug report | 04:12 |
pinkwerks | k was, looking thru the bugs but didn't find anything, then again maybe i didn't query it right :-P | 04:12 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: I can't get used to using this search -- it almost seem self-aware and malicious | 04:13 |
pinkwerks | also, if I close the terminal which i lanuch `xfce4-panel &` from it kills the panel - weird. | 04:14 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: that's normal -- the processes form a tree in linux | 04:14 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: if you kill one process, you also kill all its children | 04:14 |
pinkwerks | um, but i backgrounded it... | 04:15 |
j1mc | pinkwerks: an inspiron 9300... does it have a PIII or PIV or... ? and how much RAM? | 04:17 |
pinkwerks | j1mc : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz, MemTotal: 1035696 kB | 04:17 |
pinkwerks | j1mc : "centrino" not sure what that falls under | 04:18 |
TheSheep | Bug #94182 | 04:18 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 94182 in xfce "Missing panels in Xubuntu Feisty Fawn i386 LiveCD Herd 5 (dup-of: 53897)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94182 | 04:18 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 53897 in xfce4-panel "Disappearing panels Xubuntu dapper" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53897 | 04:18 |
pinkwerks | TheSheep : would I be 'better off' using v6. (dapper) or just have her double click the 'install' on the desktop and be over with it? just trying to replace winxp on an old computer | 04:20 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: it all depends on what she uses it for | 04:20 |
pinkwerks | it's possible that this won't even occur on the desktop system she'll be putting it on - well just email and web | 04:20 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: many times users feel hurt by forced transition to linux, and will hate it | 04:20 |
pinkwerks | TheSheep, yah well as long as it comes up with firefox and thunderbird that's all she'll need | 04:21 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: I'm sure that even if the panels don't apper at the forst boot, it can be easily fixed | 04:22 |
TheSheep | appear* | 04:22 |
pinkwerks | TheSheep: i'll try this disk in the target system, hopefully it's a non-issue, thanks for the inputs | 04:22 |
pinkwerks | ps - slick stuff! | 04:22 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: hmm... that duplicate bug shows that the panel disappearing happens often when yuo have faulty cd | 04:26 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: have you tested the cd for defects? | 04:26 |
pinkwerks | TheSheep : I did the test before i used it :-/ | 04:26 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: I'd advice doing it before install anywyas | 04:26 |
TheSheep | ah, ok | 04:26 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: found out why the bug search is so malicious on me -- it won't display duplicate bugs | 04:30 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: by default, that is | 04:30 |
pinkwerks | TheSheep: well I don't have much else to add, other than I hope it doesn't bork on the other machine - should I add some hardware info or anything to one of the bugs? | 04:30 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: might be useful. Even a simple 'mee too' sometimes helps | 04:31 |
pinkwerks | Thanks again! | 04:32 |
pinkwerks | Is there a handy command that will some up my system config for bug reports? | 04:37 |
TheSheep | hmm.. there was something... | 04:39 |
TheSheep | !info canoe | 04:39 |
ubotu | canoe: Log file aggregator and report tool (Gtk2 frontend). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-2 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 120 kB | 04:39 |
TheSheep | !info upstreamdev | 04:39 |
ubotu | upstreamdev: Log file aggregator and report tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-2 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 180 kB | 04:39 |
TheSheep | pinkwerks: but I have no idea how to use it | 04:40 |
pinkwerks | TheSheep : okay tanks | 04:41 |
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Jester45 | skipping non-regular file "kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.manifest" anyone know why? | 06:55 |
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Jester45 | oops | 06:57 |
Jester45 | wasnt copying the whole think | 06:58 |
Jester45 | im trying to make a iso image mirror but when i run "rsync -r rsync://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ ./releases/" all get is a whole bunch of skipping non-regular file "kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.manifest" error or other files but same error | 06:58 |
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tyler__ | anyone know how to get liquid wars game on xubuntu 6.06? | 07:15 |
tyler__ | grabbed some debs and well libc6 is older version | 07:15 |
tyler__ | dont' want to mess anything up :/ | 07:15 |
Ghostvirus | it's in the repos | 07:16 |
tyler__ | what is in the repos? | 07:17 |
Ghostvirus | liquid war | 07:17 |
tyler__ | for 6.06 dapper? | 07:17 |
Ghostvirus | according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/liquidwar it is | 07:18 |
tyler__ | ahh I got it now | 07:18 |
tyler__ | thought it was called liquid war(s) | 07:18 |
tyler__ | synaptic search function can be a bit crappy at times :( | 07:18 |
Ghostvirus | yeah, sometimes it's best to just type in a single word and see if what you're looking for comes up | 07:19 |
tyler__ | umm..? | 07:19 |
Ghostvirus | wtf | 07:19 |
Ghostvirus | all of the 1337 users just got booted? | 07:20 |
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tyler__ | hehe | 07:20 |
Ghostvirus | that was weird | 07:20 |
tyler__ | yeah seriously | 07:20 |
tyler__ | that network must have had a failure | 07:20 |
Ghostvirus | mmm | 07:20 |
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Ghostvirus | on the other hand, i'm currently connected thru the same server | 07:21 |
tyler__ | mrigns: omg you use aol? | 07:22 |
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tyler__ | Ghostvirus: uh oh they coming back.. its like night of the zombies | 07:23 |
juicyfruity | hello, how do I install fonts in xubuntu? | 07:23 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: fun's over | 07:23 |
tyler__ | juicyfruity: /etc/X11/xorg.conf edit it and play around in Settings under menu | 07:23 |
Ghostvirus | juicyfruity: put them in ~/.fonts | 07:24 |
juicyfruity | why should I edit xorg for fonts | 07:24 |
juicyfruity | ...... | 07:24 |
tyler__ | I dunno depends on what sort of fanciful fonts you aiming for ;) | 07:24 |
ceil420 | what reasons would Xorg have for using up 35% of my 512mb ram? (note: i did design a theme earlier and went back and forth testing it, but that was hours ago) | 07:24 |
juicyfruity | thankyou, Ghostvirus, I was looking for some sort of frontend like in gnome! | 07:25 |
Ghostvirus | juicyfruity: no problem. if you want to install fonts system-wide, toss them into /usr/share/fonts | 07:25 |
tyler__ | ceil420: if nothing else is using the ram then why not let it have 35%? I mean so long as it can be removed later for other apps | 07:26 |
ceil420 | tyler__, *can* it be removed later, when other apps need it? | 07:26 |
tyler__ | ceil420: could try ctrl alt backspace to reset xorg maybe | 07:26 |
ceil420 | tyler__, i'm trying to avoid that, cos i have an IRC bot running and it's a pain in the ass to start back up ;x | 07:27 |
tyler__ | ceil420: yeah I'm usually got my 512mb used up all the way and then I play a really big program and rest gets compressed down to near nothing its hard to get correct reading of ram usage | 07:27 |
ceil420 | (i really should give it a "on start" script to handle that crap) | 07:27 |
ceil420 | as long as it'll hand over the RAM when other stuff needs it, t's okay i guess | 07:27 |
ceil420 | i just noticed that my RAM usage was at 72% total instead of it's usual 52% :x | 07:27 |
tyler__ | ceil420: yeah it might slowly deteriorate over time back down to 50 some | 07:28 |
ceil420 | at first i thought it was Firefox raping my ram more than usual, then i looked at conky and it showed Xorg on top >< | 07:28 |
tyler__ | ceil420: what drivers you using for graphics anyway? | 07:29 |
ceil420 | uhm | 07:29 |
ceil420 | nvidia glx? :x | 07:29 |
Ghostvirus | ceil420: i constantly have a problem with xorg eating my cpu | 07:29 |
tyler__ | kool I like nvidia cards | 07:29 |
ceil420 | not 100% sure; i had problems with it a few months ago | 07:29 |
ceil420 | i've been through like three of 'em | 07:29 |
ceil420 | Ghostvirus, Xorg never touches my CPU, and it's never this bad on my ram :o | 07:30 |
tyler__ | ghostvirus: if you don't have direct rendering setup that usually happens unless its a really good driver you got going | 07:30 |
ceil420 | usually my total CPU usage is between 2 and 8% when i'm not doin' anything (of 1.7ghz) | 07:30 |
ceil420 | usually my ram tops out at like 55% :x now even with Firefox closed it's at 62% | 07:31 |
tyler__ | ceil420: hmm there are hard drive things that comp usually does when its idle, like update search database, finish up ext3 journals, and shuffle about memory | 07:31 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: i'm running on the ati driver, direct rendering and everything, on a 64 MB Radeon Mobility 7500. no idea why xorg pushes my cpu usage up so much | 07:31 |
ceil420 | with Xorg accounting for a (steady, at least) 35.83% of that | 07:31 |
tyler__ | ghostvirus: same card here in laptop I'm on, its a dell latitude c640 | 07:31 |
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Ghostvirus | i'm not using any compositing either | 07:32 |
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Ghostvirus | wtf, again | 07:32 |
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ceil420 | netsplits ftl :x | 07:32 |
tyler__ | damn channel spammers :P | 07:32 |
ceil420 | they're rare enough on freenode tho, to my knowledge | 07:32 |
ceil420 | it's real bad on networks like quakenet | 07:32 |
tyler__ | perhaps there was a new release of something awesome? | 07:33 |
Ghostvirus | why is the xfce forum so dead? | 07:33 |
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tyler__ | most use the ubuntu forum that's why, I mean there not many xubuntu specific things | 07:33 |
tyler__ | kubuntu is mostly dead too I bet | 07:33 |
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Ghostvirus | also, whatever happened to xubuntu.info? | 07:34 |
ceil420 | more distros than xubuntu use xfce tho :p | 07:34 |
tyler__ | I need a method to do integrated ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, and xubuntu search forum :) | 07:34 |
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tyler__ | maybe some way to manage logging into them too | 07:34 |
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Ghostvirus | the xfce mailing lists are pretty active though | 07:35 |
Ghostvirus | the thing i liked about xubuntu.info was that there was a forum specifically for xubuntu users, kind of like http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php | 07:36 |
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tyler__ | ghostvirus: any good xfce reads you know of? | 07:38 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: not really. the xfce wiki has some interesting bits, but that's all i know of | 07:39 |
Ghostvirus | xfce seems to be considered for old computers, and for power users | 07:40 |
tyler__ | I was kind of hoping on some current development topics | 07:40 |
tyler__ | xfce is awesome :) | 07:40 |
tyler__ | and most say linux is for power users so I'm hoping xfce stays true to its nature | 07:40 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev/ | 07:41 |
tyler__ | ah thx | 07:41 |
Ghostvirus | that mailing list is pretty active | 07:41 |
Ghostvirus | i subscribed to it, but a lot of it is over my head, as i'm no programmer | 07:41 |
tyler__ | you post any to it? | 07:43 |
Ghostvirus | nope. just subscribed today. and i don't want to make a nuisance of myself anyway | 07:43 |
Ghostvirus | i mostly just want to stay up-to-date on what's happening | 07:44 |
Ghostvirus | but yeah, not too many distros use xfce by default. most popular ones seem to be zenwalk, dreamlinux and xubuntu | 07:44 |
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test3r | i got issues :p | 07:46 |
tyler__ | dreamlinux really tweaked the heck outta xfce there, lookts sort of like a mac | 07:46 |
test3r | call it i need a BS in CS | 07:46 |
test3r | call it sumthin. but i should b able to get a job ya htink | 07:46 |
test3r | besides lame-o job | 07:47 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: yeah i know. that's why i don't like it. i hate that dock thing | 07:47 |
tyler__ | is that kiba dock? | 07:47 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: i think it's engage | 07:47 |
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tyler__ | ah some them beryl users like using the kiba dock for special effects though | 07:48 |
Ghostvirus | test3r: are you drunk? heh | 07:48 |
test3r | =O | 07:48 |
test3r | i just run Conky | 07:48 |
test3r | drunk? no i wouldnt say that | 07:48 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: i could never get into the whole dock thing. it works on os x, but not on anything else i've seen | 07:49 |
test3r | but i AM pretty tired . i think i have to sleep, wake, sleep then wake for my work shift | 07:49 |
Ghostvirus | test3r: work sucks :( | 07:49 |
test3r | its just tough switching over to night shift for my body what whatever reason | 07:50 |
tyler__ | ghostvirus: I never liked it either, why not just put tiny desktop icons there? like cut desktop in half bottom has small icons | 07:50 |
test3r | yeah u could fit alot more in the same place | 07:50 |
tyler__ | processing refresh on that would be a mess | 07:50 |
Ghostvirus | tyler__: i dunno. i've always liked the 1 panel on he bottom setup, like windows | 07:50 |
Ghostvirus | i sound like a heretic | 07:51 |
tyler__ | yeah! if panel is on top its like having mouse buttons reversed to left handed | 07:51 |
tyler__ | can't function right | 07:51 |
test3r | i stil use two pannel default setup | 07:51 |
tyler__ | besides you have to break your neck looking up at screen and tilting laptop up | 07:51 |
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test3r | with a slew of usermade icons on the top lol | 07:51 |
tyler__ | hey anyone here have an irc client that outputs new posts on top? | 07:52 |
tyler__ | then why have a desktop like that!? | 07:52 |
Ghostvirus | my setup is pretty minimal. i'm running at 1024x768 so space is precious | 07:52 |
TheSheep_ | tyler__: because it's *your* way that's backwards ;) | 07:52 |
tyler__ | nah I sort of like having a hidden panel that pops out on the right | 07:52 |
TheSheep_ | tyler__: you're just conditioned | 07:52 |
test3r | Dinosaurs! RUN! | 07:53 |
Ghostvirus | rofl | 07:53 |
Ghostvirus | nice exit right there | 07:53 |
TheSheep_ | folr | 07:53 |
tyler__ | Ghostvirus: rawrrgh | 07:53 |
TheSheep_ | too much of xkcd, apparently | 07:54 |
tyler__ | xkcd? | 07:54 |
TheSheep_ | tyler__: .com | 07:54 |
Ghostvirus | TheSheep: hey look, a new one: http://xkcd.com/c283.html | 07:54 |
tyler__ | hehe nice | 07:54 |
TheSheep_ | tyler__: it's amazing | 07:55 |
Ghostvirus | you guys read perry bible fellowship? | 07:55 |
Ghostvirus | http://www.pbfcomics.com/ | 07:56 |
Ghostvirus | best damn webcomic out there | 07:56 |
TheSheep_ | maybe we should move over next door to #xubuntu-offtopic? | 07:56 |
Ghostvirus | i'm there | 07:56 |
Ghostvirus | so you guys ever try zenwalk? | 07:58 |
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siimo | hi anyone know of any weird XFCE bug in Gutsy causing Xorg lockups about 5 mins in from starting X | 08:27 |
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light[afk] | hiya, can anyone help me automatically have my CPU governor change when I plug in my laptop? | 08:53 |
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Dual | hello every1 | 10:15 |
Dual | im trying to format/install xubntu feisty over ubuntu edgy! the instalation reach 54% and hangs there! | 10:15 |
Dual | now i cant start up with xp nor linux! | 10:15 |
Dual | at boot it gives me grub error 15 | 10:16 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: what is it doing at 54%? | 10:21 |
TheSheep_ | 'generating anthy dict'? | 10:21 |
Dual | copying files | 10:21 |
Dual | and stops | 10:21 |
Dual | there | 10:21 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: have you checked the cd for defects? | 10:22 |
Dual | ya i did | 10:22 |
Dual | it had one error | 10:22 |
Dual | so i burned it again and again and again | 10:22 |
Dual | did it 5 times! | 10:22 |
TheSheep_ | !md5 | 10:22 |
Dual | ii did it as well | 10:23 |
Dual | they dont have the hash of xubuntu 7.04 | 10:23 |
Dual | the latest is 6.. | 10:23 |
ubotu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 10:23 |
TheSheep_ | how come? | 10:23 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: well, if the cd is broken, there is small chance it will work :/ | 10:23 |
Dual | TheSheep_ check it | 10:23 |
Dual | TheSheep_ its not! thts the thing.. | 10:24 |
Dual | i tried 4 | 10:24 |
Dual | and i even went and bought a new 100 cd pack just to b sure | 10:24 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS | 10:24 |
Dual | ok TheSheep_ just a sec lemme check | 10:25 |
Dual | k its calculating | 10:25 |
Dual | meanwhile.. i downloaded the iso on 2 seperate occasions! using a download manager | 10:26 |
Dual | would tht cause a prob? | 10:26 |
TheSheep_ | shouldn't | 10:26 |
Dual | hmm | 10:26 |
Dual | theyre different :S | 10:26 |
Dual | tried the 2 i386 theyre both different! | 10:27 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: look on the bright side -- your cd burner is ok :) | 10:28 |
Dual | lol | 10:28 |
Dual | ya well wanna use my desktop in the near future though.. | 10:28 |
Dual | cant even format with xp! | 10:28 |
Dual | it shuts down by itself when i try to delete the C partition | 10:28 |
Dual | im thinking of zapping it | 10:28 |
Dual | but i have 9 gb of IMPORTANt data over it :S | 10:29 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: how long would a new download take? | 10:29 |
Dual | forever | 10:29 |
Dual | 15 kb.. :S | 10:30 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: you can try downloading DSL or some other small distro, prepare partitions with it and then install xp (just for the time being) | 10:30 |
Dual | i could do it at work though theres download limitation | 10:30 |
Dual | ya i could do tht | 10:30 |
Dual | how small is "small distro" ? | 10:30 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: there are linux dikettes :) | 10:30 |
Dual | am a newbie when it comes to linux! i tried ubuntu and then decided to switch to xubuntu and all this mess happened | 10:31 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: you don't have the ubuntu cd anymore? | 10:31 |
Dual | no | 10:32 |
Dual | bought the pc with ubuntu allready installed | 10:32 |
TheSheep_ | always check the checksum before burning, and the cd for defects before installing -- this simply saves time and hassle | 10:32 |
Dual | true | 10:32 |
Dual | i shouldve though i was a bit excited bout the xubuntu issue since my desktoip is a low end pc.. | 10:33 |
Dual | and ubuntu were kinda making it hang every now and then | 10:33 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: maybe you have a LUG nearby and someone could help you with his livecd | 10:33 |
Dual | a frind has red hat | 10:33 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: or there is a magazine that has some linux attached to it | 10:33 |
Dual | anyway could u guide me to the "small distro" u told me about! | 10:34 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: better this than nothing | 10:34 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: let me see what there is -- I haven't checked recently | 10:34 |
Dual | ok thank you:) srry if im bothering you with this | 10:34 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: ok, there seem to be no diskette-based distros recently :/ | 10:39 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: the smallest I see are aboiut 50MB | 10:39 |
Dual | well thts gr8 | 10:40 |
Dual | its perfect i could get it in 30 min | 10:40 |
Dual | could u provide me a link plz | 10:40 |
TheSheep_ | http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html | 10:40 |
Dual | thank you | 10:41 |
Dual | so i do the installation exactly like other distro right? | 10:41 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: this is a live cd | 10:41 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: it has an option to copy itself on the hard drive though | 10:41 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: it has a basic set of applications, including firefox | 10:42 |
TheSheep_ | Dual: ain't pretty, but should do until you get something better | 10:42 |
Dual | ya exactly | 10:42 |
Dual | thank you | 10:42 |
Dual | and once again sorry if i bothered | 10:43 |
Dual | ill give it a try and if anythign came up ill get back ... | 10:43 |
Dual | once again | 10:43 |
Dual | thanks | 10:43 |
TheSheep_ | no problem | 10:44 |
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tinin | Hi! Could someone show me how to connect a xubuntu pc to a router? | 03:38 |
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kafran | I'm thinking my resolution so small :S | 03:53 |
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kafran | and when I try to change, its so stranger :S | 03:53 |
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k_ | im having a bit of an issue with plugin menus in firefox. whenever i have my browser on my second monitor (xinerama) - none of my menus show properly. is there a way to fix this? | 04:30 |
k_ | its like firefox expects 1024x768 but its 1280x1024 | 04:31 |
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cheeseboy | hi | 05:00 |
cheeseboy | my pc has terrible specs | 05:00 |
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cheeseboy | and i cant upgrade | 05:00 |
cheeseboy | any way i can make it faster? | 05:00 |
maxamillion | cheeseboy: you can run something like fluxbox or icewm | 05:06 |
maxamillion | cheeseboy: i have an old computer here at work and with a debian base install with fluxbox ontop i use 27mb of ram at an idle fresh login | 05:07 |
cheeseboy | but i want to be able to run xfce and other programs | 05:07 |
maxamillion | cheeseboy: well you can run all programs you want from within either fluxbox, xfce, icewm, gnome, kde, etc... | 05:08 |
maxamillion | cheeseboy: but to run xfce you might want to try uninstalling things you don't need or use | 05:09 |
cheeseboy | i installed from command line | 05:09 |
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maxamillion | cheeseboy: installing from command line doesn't really make a difference | 05:22 |
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BFTD | hey slow-motion | 05:46 |
slow-motion | hi BFTD | 05:46 |
BFTD | nice day eh? | 05:47 |
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kafran | how to burn an dvd iso to a dvd from comand line? | 06:02 |
Jester45 | !dvd-tools | 06:03 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:03 |
Jester45 | !dvd+rw-tools | 06:04 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd+rw-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:04 |
Jester45 | ok, install dvd-rw-tools | 06:04 |
Jester45 | dvd+rw-tools* | 06:05 |
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abo | hello wireless not working with network-manager i hear there is some shell script available to make it work ? | 06:14 |
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abo | maybe another app then the network-manager ? is there another way ? | 06:21 |
Jester45 | its kinda dead in here | 06:22 |
abo | yes it is | 06:23 |
abo | i used to run suse it worked there so my wireless is supported by kernel, so the configurations is only not correct | 06:27 |
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Jester45 | hey cellofellow vidd said its ok to run a test site on his server | 06:27 |
Jester45 | or not... | 06:27 |
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abo | i'm going to try to configure it again, try some new triks :( | 06:36 |
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MrMist | Hi all | 06:39 |
MrMist | I'm wondering.. Previously I've installed XUbuntu with the standard settings. Now I've got a separate boot-partition, where I'd like GRUB to reside. How do I do this ? | 06:40 |
Jester45 | i think grub resides in the Master Boot Record, aka hd0 | 06:41 |
Jester45 | i think it has to stay there unless you use something else to point to the new location | 06:42 |
MrMist | Hmm | 06:43 |
MrMist | I've installed Gentoo from before, and there I made a separate partition for GRUB and the kernel | 06:43 |
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Jester45 | im might be wrong | 06:44 |
Jester45 | its probably my windows showing | 06:44 |
dan40 | how do you throttle the cpu and HD? | 06:45 |
MrMist | How about alternate install ? Is that what I'm after ?? | 06:46 |
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Jester45 | hey cellofellow vidd said its ok to run a test site on his server | 06:46 |
cellofellow | Jester45: sweet. I'll do that a bit later, I have schoolwork first. | 06:47 |
Jester45 | but, he erased his sudoers list :) so he cant make a ftp user right now | 06:47 |
cellofellow | Jester45: so, do I have something like /home/cellofellow and vidd.us/~cellofellow available? | 06:47 |
cellofellow | dang | 06:47 |
Jester45 | yes | 06:48 |
cellofellow | sounds like a livecd+chroot to the rescue situation. | 06:48 |
Jester45 | yep, but its a headless server thats colocated that doesnt have a cd drive | 06:48 |
dan40 | how do you throttle the cpu and HD? I heard that with Ubuntu you can do that. | 06:49 |
MrMist | throttle the CPU ? | 06:49 |
cellofellow | you need hardware that supports it | 06:49 |
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MrMist | I've got a Core Duo laptop, and it supports throttling only because the default operating speed is 1GHz/core (to save the battery) | 06:50 |
dan40 | This is a laptop that I am interested in throttling | 06:50 |
MrMist | It's automatic | 06:50 |
Jester45 | !repeat | MrMist | 06:50 |
ubotu | MrMist: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience | 06:50 |
MrMist | Jester45: Huh ?? | 06:51 |
dan40 | oh..I guess I was mistakin I thought you could lower the cycles on any app | 06:51 |
Jester45 | eeer | 06:51 |
Jester45 | thats for dan40 | 06:51 |
MrMist | Jester45: Hehe.. OK :) | 06:52 |
Jester45 | you can use load balancing or you can also limit the clock rate of a cpu | 06:52 |
dan40 | ok, how do you limit the clock rate? | 06:52 |
Jester45 | the number of level is called steppings | 06:53 |
dan40 | yeah..thats what I read about...steppings | 06:53 |
MrMist | Is there any pros or cons about having a separate boot-partition? | 06:53 |
dan40 | I couldn't remember the terminology | 06:53 |
MrMist | Wouldn't it make things easier if installing multiple Linux-versions f.eks. ? | 06:53 |
Jester45 | run cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep stepping to see if you can use it | 06:54 |
dan40 | !steppings | 06:54 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about steppings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:54 |
Jester45 | mrigns, you dont want to mix kernels unless you custom made them, ubuntu makes their own kernels redhat makes other | 06:54 |
MrMist | Cool. My CPU does :D | 06:54 |
dan40 | result ..steppings: 10 | 06:55 |
Jester45 | then you can do 10 diffrent levels | 06:55 |
Jester45 | whats the cpu | 06:55 |
Jester45 | do cat /proc/cpuinfo to find out | 06:55 |
dan40 | k...one sec | 06:56 |
MrMist | Jester45: Yeah, I know. But having separate OS'es would work, right? One partition for XUbuntu, one for gentoo etc. Of course, the programs have to be installed separately for each OS | 06:56 |
dan40 | result: Genuine Intel Pentium III 846.666 Mhz | 06:57 |
MrMist | Still, only one version of GRUB could be run. | 06:57 |
Jester45 | MrMist, yes, but each distro shouldnt use the same kernel because each distro makes their own kernels, the only reson to use the same kernel would be a extreme lack of space a custom kernel of your own making or the vanilla kernel | 06:57 |
Jester45 | they can use the same grub | 06:58 |
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Jester45 | hiya hyper_ch | 06:59 |
hyper_ch | hiho Jester45 | 06:59 |
Jester45 | vidd erased his sudoers file :) | 07:00 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: why? | 07:01 |
MrMist | Jester45: I'm not talking about using the same kernel, I can see that. Each OS would have it's own kernel. But the argument for putting the kernel into the boot-partition, might be to lessen the access time or something. Different kernels might reside in one partition, right? I could set GRUB to point to separate partitions for "/root" for each respective kernel | 07:01 |
hyper_ch | btw, alinghi won today | 07:01 |
dan40 | Jester45: ok if I now know that I can do ten steps, can I adjust that from the command line? | 07:01 |
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dan40 | alinghi? Like as in sailing? | 07:02 |
Jester45 | dan40, im not sure you might want to look at google | 07:02 |
hyper_ch | dan40: yes | 07:02 |
hyper_ch | 3 : 2 (Swizz vs. NZL) | 07:03 |
dan40 | Was that Americas cup? Luis Vuitton? | 07:03 |
hyper_ch | America's Cup | 07:03 |
dan40 | Oh snap..I didn't know that was going on | 07:03 |
Jester45 | kafran, did you like the netsplit? | 07:03 |
hyper_ch | dan40: well, here it's a big thing :) | 07:03 |
dan40 | Where is here? I don't even know where the America's cup is being held this year? | 07:04 |
MrMist | Jester45: I'm totally into the idea that precompiled OS'es saves a LOT of time. However, I need to have the possibility to play around with Gentoo as well. I'm doing lots of Gentoo-related stuff at work. | 07:04 |
Jester45 | should be in america | 07:04 |
hyper_ch | dan40: Valencia, Spain | 07:05 |
Jester45 | MrMist, you can have more than one kernel in a partition just make sure gentoo doesnt write over ubuntu's or the other way around (maybe write protect the file?) | 07:05 |
dan40 | ah...Val-enth-e-a | 07:05 |
dan40 | I wish I had the money to go sailing in different places around the world | 07:06 |
Jester45 | kafran, growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso | 07:06 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: america's cup is there where the last winning team came from | 07:06 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: and as you may know, it's a bit hard to have a sea regatta in Switzerland ^^ | 07:06 |
dan40 | hehe | 07:07 |
dan40 | very true | 07:07 |
Jester45 | if i won i would say i lived in Antarctica so everony would have to go up there and freeze while i stay south and warm | 07:07 |
hyper_ch | lake constance isn't quite suited for America's cup... but it would be fun | 07:08 |
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MrMist | Jester45: It's easy, really. When compiling the kernel, Gentoo doesn't automatically put it in the /boot partition. One has to copy it there. So there's no real risk involved :D | 07:10 |
dan40 | there was some talk about having it in San Francisco, where I used to live, many years ago. The bay has a huge sailing history and culture. It would be well received. | 07:10 |
MrMist | "If you're going to saaaan fraaan siscooo" | 07:11 |
dan40 | oh no ...not singing | 07:11 |
MrMist | <- singing out loud | 07:11 |
Jester45 | they should do it where i live, missouri the river would make the race fun | 07:12 |
dan40 | I am sure everyone would jump at the chance to put their $100 million dollar boats in the river | 07:13 |
Jester45 | yep :) | 07:13 |
Jester45 | i would | 07:15 |
MrMist | 100$ million? :| | 07:15 |
MrMist | On BOATS? | 07:15 |
Jester45 | not boats they spend it on a boat | 07:16 |
dan40 | well they usually have a backup too. | 07:16 |
MrMist | Either way... I'm just baffled by the simple amount of money involved | 07:17 |
dan40 | It a big deal... | 07:17 |
dan40 | The boats are SUPER high tech. The bleeding edge of design. | 07:18 |
MrMist | Here I'm scratching my head about what to do.. Trying to get hold of an apartment in Oslo, but it seems to expensive for me... | 07:18 |
MrMist | and that's like... 250-300k $ !? | 07:18 |
MrMist | dan40: I don't doubt it. But it still seems a LOT of cash. | 07:19 |
hyper_ch | I wouldn't say no to that cash | 07:20 |
MrMist | I'm a math guy... I'm taking a masters degree in it:P And there's no denying the fact that money drives much of the research being done... | 07:20 |
MrMist | BUT... the research for what? Creating faster boats? | 07:20 |
MrMist | Or creating faster cars? (in the case of Formula1 etc.) | 07:21 |
Jester45 | or intel making a 80 core cpu? | 07:21 |
MrMist | Jester45: Now, THAT research I can understand :) But a CPU is more a tool than a new engine | 07:22 |
dan40 | yes, popular hull design definately takes influence from America's cup designed boats. | 07:23 |
MrMist | dan40: Jester45: Actually, I'm studying splines. The fundamental basis in designing boat hulls etc :P | 07:23 |
dan40 | Most of the money, like formula 1, comes from Corp sponsors. In the cas of Alinghi, I think its british telecom and UBS | 07:24 |
MrMist | dan40: Yeah. It probably does. Guess there's lots of money to be made by tuning engines new ways etc. too. | 07:27 |
MrMist | One should be able to use some of it when making new engines etc. | 07:27 |
dan40 | yep | 07:27 |
dan40 | darn, the only thing I am finding on stepping uses Gnome | 07:28 |
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dan40 | whats the command to see what kernel I am using? | 07:40 |
Jester45 | uname -r | 07:40 |
dan40 | ah ..k. got it. thanks | 07:42 |
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MrMist | Anyone installed XUbuntu with a separate boot-partition ? | 07:52 |
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grazie | MrMist: yep | 07:59 |
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Enola_Gay | hi all | 08:01 |
Enola_Gay | Does xubuntu have the same update manager like Ubuntu? | 08:02 |
Jester45 | yes | 08:02 |
Jester45 | its doesnt have the notifier but it still auto updates | 08:02 |
Enola_Gay | Which mail client is used? Where can I see the main differences/features of Xubuntu? | 08:02 |
Enola_Gay | How? | 08:03 |
Jester45 | and haas the little program that you can manually check for updates | 08:03 |
Jester45 | mozilla-thunardbird is used | 08:03 |
Jester45 | thunderbird* | 08:03 |
Enola_Gay | Ubuntu has an auto updater too but only for security updates if you activate it. | 08:03 |
Enola_Gay | So how this works without notify? | 08:03 |
Jester45 | it will auto install them but not tell you | 08:04 |
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Enola_Gay | All possible updates? | 08:04 |
Enola_Gay | :) | 08:04 |
Jester45 | umm i think so | 08:04 |
Jester45 | i dont use them i use a cron job | 08:05 |
Jester45 | or tab what ever you wanna call it | 08:05 |
Enola_Gay | Does it use the network manager? | 08:07 |
Enola_Gay | What are the penalties? | 08:10 |
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b52lap | hi | 08:10 |
b52lap | i got this error network-admin | 08:10 |
b52lap | (network-admin:16125): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: | 08:11 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: auto-updater in xubuntu??? where? | 08:11 |
hyper_ch | dvd decrypter rocks :) | 08:12 |
Jester45 | hyper_ch, you might want to look at synatic a bit more it has options to auto download and install | 08:14 |
Jester45 | i like the auto download my self | 08:14 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: auto-install is not activated by default and neither is auto-download | 08:14 |
hyper_ch | and then, I don't use synaptic ;) | 08:15 |
Jester45 | yea... but it still has it | 08:15 |
Jester45 | nor do i | 08:15 |
Jester45 | i used it once | 08:15 |
Jester45 | i was looking for games | 08:15 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: the way you said it it sounded like it will auto-download and auto-install | 08:15 |
Jester45 | and it has a batter layout | 08:15 |
Jester45 | there is 2 options | 08:15 |
Jester45 | or 3 | 08:15 |
Enola_Gay | auto updater is very important imho or at least notification | 08:15 |
Jester45 | no auto anything auto downoad but no install or auto download and autoinstall | 08:16 |
hyper_ch | Enola_Gay: auto-update isn't important | 08:16 |
Enola_Gay | not for nerds and geeks | 08:16 |
Jester45 | Enola_Gay, hyper_ch is right its not important at all | 08:16 |
Enola_Gay | but for normal people | 08:16 |
hyper_ch | Enola_Gay: I check everyday for updates... just a habit from the pre-releases where there are everyday updates :) | 08:16 |
Jester45 | its a very nice addition | 08:16 |
Enola_Gay | you are a nerd :-D | 08:16 |
hyper_ch | Enola_Gay: hmmm, you use linux... that would qualify you as a geek | 08:16 |
Jester45 | dependson how you are using "use linux" | 08:17 |
Enola_Gay | I know, but I want to install Linux on Computers of normal people like my mother and so on :) | 08:17 |
Jester45 | somepeople use linux without knowing that you replaced windows | 08:17 |
Enola_Gay | that's the plan | 08:17 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: normal is what the average does | 08:17 |
Jester45 | im above normal | 08:17 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: and the average number of people don't use linux | 08:17 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: hence you are not normal when using linux | 08:18 |
Jester45 | the normal linux user is a geek | 08:18 |
hyper_ch | yeah | 08:18 |
Enola_Gay | I know but I think Linux is perfect for Newbies since is secure and has everything they need | 08:18 |
hyper_ch | "normality" depends on your reference group | 08:18 |
Jester45 | but there is an increasing amount of those geeks replace windows on peoples machines for them | 08:18 |
Enola_Gay | and in many cases easier to manager because of app updates and so on | 08:18 |
hyper_ch | Enola_Gay: it is by design more secure than windows... but that won't stop you from making it open like windows if you want to | 08:19 |
Jester45 | yea i say dependingon what they do its a lot simpler than windows because of the package manger with updates | 08:19 |
Jester45 | like run wine with root powers :) | 08:20 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: I also think that the repos make it simpler and and more secure as you know those are trusted packages | 08:20 |
Jester45 | i dont trust them :) | 08:20 |
hyper_ch | right now ripping dvds with wine+dvddecrypter | 08:20 |
Jester45 | hyper_ch, why not just use acidrip | 08:20 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: dunno... I just know how to handle dvd decrypter even with some scratched dvds | 08:21 |
Jester45 | i think acidrip is much better | 08:21 |
Jester45 | because it uses mencoder | 08:21 |
Jester45 | and mencoder is god of encoding | 08:22 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: it's ripping... not encoding | 08:22 |
Jester45 | are you making an iso ? or avi | 08:22 |
hyper_ch | wohoo, gpl3 is out | 08:22 |
hyper_ch | iso | 08:22 |
Jester45 | o | 08:22 |
Jester45 | well, you could use dd then | 08:23 |
Jester45 | :) its simple | 08:23 |
hyper_ch | Jester45: not with scratched dvds | 08:23 |
Jester45 | dont scratch your dvds | 08:23 |
hyper_ch | I didn't... | 08:24 |
hyper_ch | that happened on its own | 08:24 |
hyper_ch | ^^ | 08:24 |
Jester45 | or better yet, use torents to get a new copy :) | 08:24 |
Jester45 | well im off to work | 08:25 |
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b52lap | any one got an idea xhost | 08:28 |
b52lap | xhost: unable to open display "0:0" | 08:28 |
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hyper_ch | now that was interesting | 08:31 |
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ed__ | does anyone here have experience setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server? | 08:53 |
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ed__ | does anyone have experience setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server? | 09:16 |
not_Jester45 | !repeat | 09:16 |
ubotu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience | 09:16 |
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geck0 | does anyone know how to add the "activity meter", like ubuntu has, to Xubuntu | 09:17 |
geck0 | so when I click a program, in the task bar it will say "starting firefox..." for instance? | 09:17 |
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cheeseboy | can i limit the amount of ram a program uses? | 09:40 |
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TheSheep_ | cheeseboy: man ulimit | 10:21 |
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BFTD | I have a PDF document and i want to take a page out of it and place it in its own PDF document | 10:29 |
TheSheep_ | BFTD: pdfcrop | 10:31 |
hyper_ch | huhu TheSheep_ | 10:33 |
hyper_ch | TheSheep_: did you know WAP hacking is easy? | 10:33 |
TheSheep_ | hyper_ch: it's normal html | 10:34 |
BFTD | !info pdfcrop | 10:34 |
ubotu | Package pdfcrop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 10:34 |
BFTD | ? | 10:34 |
hyper_ch | TheSheep_: sorry, I meant WPA :) | 10:34 |
BFTD | TheSheep_ where do I get that program? | 10:34 |
TheSheep_ | BFTD: nevermind, use pdftk | 10:35 |
BFTD | ah thaks TheSheep_ | 10:35 |
TheSheep_ | BFTD: 'burst' will spliti t into singlep ages | 10:35 |
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BFTD | TheSheep_ are you having a brain fart? | 10:36 |
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tinin | hi, what should i change to fix the sreen resulution | 10:44 |
tinin | during boot | 10:44 |
tinin | I've got an old monitor and i need to set vga=789 | 10:45 |
tinin | but i can't find where do i need to change it | 10:46 |
maxamillion | tinin: that should be in your grub.conf | 10:47 |
tinin | ok | 10:47 |
TheSheep_ | maxamillion: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ? | 10:48 |
tinin | yeah | 10:48 |
tinin | i couln't find grub.conf | 10:49 |
maxamillion | TheSheep_: yeah ... that too | 10:49 |
maxamillion | :P | 10:49 |
maxamillion | sorry | 10:49 |
maxamillion | i get my files mixed up | 10:49 |
tinin | does anyone have an 800x600 monitor? | 10:50 |
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tinin | I may have found where it fits in ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the alternatives | 10:53 |
tinin | ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 | 10:54 |
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tinin | # defoptions=quiet splash locale=es_ES | 10:54 |
maxamillion | tinin: just add vga=789 at the end of the line for the one that loads the kernel | 10:54 |
tinin | aaaah thanx | 10:55 |
tinin | i thoght i had to uncomment that | 10:55 |
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tinin | oh | 10:58 |
tinin | now i can see the boot sccreen, but only one part, it seems bigger than my screen | 10:59 |
tinin | but this is better | 10:59 |
maxamillion | tinin: well ... as long as things are improving :) | 11:01 |
tinin | yeah, now if i had internet on it, it would be great | 11:02 |
tinin | but it does not seem to "just work" with my router | 11:03 |
maxamillion | tinin: yeah, thats because xubuntu and your router both are set to negotiate via dhcp by default | 11:03 |
tinin | I need this pc for my mother and i was learning xfce. Is there any tool to change net parameters? | 11:04 |
tinin | I mean any other than the "network settings" | 11:05 |
hyper_ch | tinin: what's not working there? | 11:05 |
vidd_laptop | tinin, you CAN set it manually by configuring the /etc/network/interfaces file | 11:07 |
tinin | I copied there all the settings from the other pc i run (with kubuntu) except that i set up a different ip | 11:07 |
tinin | Is there any way to know what happens | 11:07 |
tinin | ping | 11:07 |
tinin | netstat | 11:07 |
tinin | ifconfig | 11:07 |
tinin | ? | 11:07 |
vidd_laptop | tinin, are you using the network-admin tool? | 11:08 |
vidd_laptop | or are you manually editing the config file? | 11:08 |
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tinin | srorry, i come back in a min | 11:09 |
tinin | here, i was searching for another cable to conect the xubuntu pc, because right now i need to unplug my pc from the net to connect the old one | 11:15 |
tinin | vidd_laptop i was using the network-admin tool | 11:16 |
tinin | i did not know where that config file was | 11:16 |
vidd_laptop | that is fine | 11:16 |
vidd_laptop | do you want the "old" computer to have a static ip? | 11:17 |
tinin | yes | 11:17 |
tinin | i think | 11:17 |
tinin | it would be better for amule | 11:17 |
vidd_laptop | ok....what is the ip address of your gateway? | 11:17 |
vidd_laptop | that would be the ip address of the router | 11:18 |
tinin | 192.168.1.1 | 11:18 |
tinin | yes | 11:18 |
vidd_laptop | .... | 11:18 |
tinin | but | 11:19 |
tinin | it does not connect to the router | 11:19 |
vidd_laptop | out of curiosity...what is the ip address of your modem? | 11:19 |
tinin | each time i put that on firefox | 11:19 |
tinin | ip address of your modem? | 11:19 |
tinin | how should it look like? | 11:19 |
tinin | its a router | 11:20 |
vidd_laptop | ok...then never mind about that.... | 11:20 |
vidd_laptop | open a terminal.... | 11:20 |
vidd_laptop | is your network on eth0 or something else? | 11:21 |
tinin | sorry i only need to see some light about this, because it just don't work and i dont knw where to star | 11:21 |
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tinin | wait | 11:21 |
tinin | i haven't got it connected now | 11:21 |
tinin | if i connect i should disconnect this | 11:22 |
tinin | so it would be great just to hear your opinion about what is happening | 11:22 |
tinin | just tell me what to do now | 11:23 |
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vidd_laptop | what is your network card's name? | 11:25 |
tinin | should i know it ? | 11:25 |
tinin | with ifconfig? | 11:25 |
vidd_laptop | eth0, eth1.....? | 11:25 |
tinin | eth0 | 11:26 |
cellofellow | ls /dev/eth* | 11:26 |
tinin | cellofellow it tells me "no such file or directory" | 11:27 |
tinin | maybe because it is not connected to the router right now? | 11:27 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: same here | 11:27 |
maxamillion | tinin: no, i think that's just not a valid command | 11:27 |
tinin | 'ahhh | 11:28 |
tinin | ok | 11:28 |
cellofellow | me too | 11:28 |
cellofellow | I thought eth0 was in /dev. Must be somewhere else. | 11:28 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: i believe what you wanted was "ls /dev/ | grep eth" but ... apparently eth isn't in /dev | 11:29 |
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maxamillion | ahhh | 11:29 |
vidd_laptop | tinin, AFTER you plug that computer in.... | 11:29 |
tinin | ok | 11:29 |
tinin | tell | 11:29 |
cellofellow | maxamillion: it isn't in /dev. Where is it then? It used to be. That was Edgy I guess though. | 11:30 |
vidd_laptop | type sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 | 11:30 |
cellofellow | does locate index /dev ? | 11:30 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: i'm on debian etch ... its not there either | 11:30 |
tinin | and then? | 11:30 |
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vidd_laptop | enjoy the internet | 11:30 |
tinin | ahhh | 11:30 |
tinin | i hope so | 11:31 |
cellofellow | maxamillion: what kernel? | 11:31 |
tinin | mom will be grateful | 11:31 |
tinin | coming back to tell | 11:31 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: 2.6.18 | 11:32 |
cellofellow | I got 2.6.20 | 11:32 |
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cellofellow | I'm now confused. Where did the eth device go? | 11:33 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: i don't know ... i am looking now | 11:34 |
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Pumpernickel | cellofellow, maxamillion: http://www.redhat.com/archives/guinness-list/2002-October/msg00031.html | 11:36 |
Lectus | Hello! I tried to install IceWM on Xubuntu, but not all the programs that appear on XFCE menu appear on ICEWM menu. Can anyone help me fixing it? Or can anyone recommend a IceWM-centric distro? I'd prefer to have Xubuntu with IceWM installed and configured though. Thanks! | 11:38 |
maxamillion | Pumpernickel: ah, thanks .... so its kinda like the net devices are managed by a HAL style steup | 11:38 |
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cellofellow | Pumpernickel: ok. That makes more sense now. I suppose you can have more network devices, and do more with them, when they are in that /etc thing. | 11:39 |
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cellofellow | is there a cli word processor? A rich text editor in curses or something like that? | 11:41 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: lemme check | 11:42 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: not that i know of ... might as well learn Latex for formatting ;) | 11:44 |
cellofellow | ok | 11:45 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/Misc/LaTeX-Tutorial/LaTeX-Home.html | 11:45 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: its something i keep telling myself i will learn, but then i continue to use abiword because i am lazy | 11:45 |
cellofellow | :) :/ | 11:45 |
cellofellow | LaTeX sounds so complicated. | 11:45 |
maxamillion | cellofellow: yeah, i don't doubt it is | 11:46 |
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tinin_ | no luck :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27855/ | 11:46 |
tinin_ | that's what i get from sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 | 11:47 |
tinin_ | and my interfaces file | 11:47 |
tinin_ | any other thing i can look up for? | 11:48 |
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maxamillion | i'm out! gotta run | 11:48 |
geck0 | howdy | 11:48 |
vidd_laptop | tinin_, you do not have the box set with a static ip.... | 11:48 |
geck0 | got a couple quick questions if anyone can help- | 11:48 |
tinin_ | ok | 11:49 |
cellofellow | !ask | geck0 | 11:49 |
ubotu | geck0: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 11:49 |
tinin_ | maybe not now | 11:49 |
geck0 | 1. why can't I just click and drag to make a box around several icons to select them | 11:49 |
tinin_ | I tried all combinations i could vidd_laptop | 11:49 |
cellofellow | 1. Cause XFCE isn't a full-featured desktop. It's more lightweight, and that is a "full feature". | 11:49 |
cellofellow | geck0: next? | 11:50 |
tinin_ | should i try again with it as static? | 11:50 |
vidd_laptop | tinin_, you need to change "dhcp" in your /etc/network/interfaces file to "static" | 11:50 |
geck0 | ah ok, so there is no way to add that feature? | 11:50 |
cellofellow | not without coding it in yourself. | 11:50 |
geck0 | k | 11:50 |
vidd_laptop | and then its hould work | 11:50 |
tinin_ | ok | 11:50 |
geck0 | next question, I tried to configure my time to auto update according to some servers after searching for how to do it | 11:50 |
geck0 | but it doesn't seem to be working? | 11:50 |
cellofellow | geck0: are the ntp packages installed? If they are, just checking the box in time-admin should work. | 11:51 |
tinin_ | but i'll do it from the network tool, cause it's easier for me | 11:51 |
tinin_ | back again | 11:51 |
geck0 | I think they are, how do I check? | 11:52 |
geck0 | I've already done the thing where I click "keep synchronized with internet servers" and it asks if I want to add NTP support, and I chose yes | 11:52 |
geck0 | I have 2 servers checked in the "Select Servers" menu, however it says it's 1:30am right now. and its 5:00 PM =P | 11:53 |
geck0 | Also, the Synchronize now option is greyed out (like I can't click on it), if that means anything | 11:54 |
cellofellow | geck0: what timezone did you set? | 11:54 |
geck0 | America/Chicago | 11:54 |
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cellofellow | should work. Is your BIOS set to UTC? | 11:56 |
geck0 | eek I don't know, how can I check? | 11:56 |
geck0 | I know how to get to the BIOS screen | 11:56 |
cellofellow | dunno | 11:57 |
geck0 | hmm OK, I'm toying around with BIOS settings now | 11:57 |
geck0 | Well, I don't see any options that have a UTC in them | 11:59 |
geck0 | hmm I guess I'll just set the clock manually then and not worry about synchronizing it. Third Question: I've heard about pre-linking and readahead, do any of you know how to use these options, so I could potentially shorten the load time of firefox/open office, etc? | 12:01 |
geck0 | heh you might think this is funny...I changed my clock in the BIOS, and it was set to 2001. Now when I booted up xubuntu again, it says /dev/sda1 has gone 2285 days without being checked, check forced. | 12:03 |
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vidd_laptop | tinin_, survey says? | 12:06 |
tinin_ | well i changed to static ip and tried sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 | 12:06 |
tinin_ | and nothing | 12:07 |
tinin_ | i even rebooted and tried agan and nothing | 12:07 |
tinin_ | I got this error when i log into xfce"Could not look up for internet address for pcpunk... It may be possible to correct the problem by adding pcpunk to the file /etc/hosts on your system" | 12:07 |
tinin_ | it's weird, Is maybe that the network card does not work well? i've got another to put there | 12:07 |
tinin_ | survey says command not found | 12:08 |
vidd_laptop | tinin_, on that pc, check the /etc/resolv.conf | 12:09 |
tinin_ | ah | 12:09 |
vidd_laptop | make sure the ip address is 192.168.1.1 and NOT 127.0.0.1 | 12:09 |
tinin_ | there it says | 12:10 |
cellofellow | geck0: don't worry about that. UTC means that UNIX expects the harware clock to be set to UTC, which is the same as Greenwich Mean Time. | 12:10 |
tinin_ | nameserver 80.58.61.250 | 12:10 |
tinin_ | nameserver 80.58.61.254 | 12:10 |
cellofellow | geck0: so set the BIOS (hardware) clock to UTC, and then your timezone thing should check out. | 12:10 |
tinin_ | domain pcpunk-domain | 12:10 |
tinin_ | that's all | 12:11 |
tinin_ | those are the dns i put on the network tool | 12:11 |
vidd_laptop | is that your dns servers? | 12:12 |
tinin_ | yes | 12:12 |
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tinin_ | i think | 12:12 |
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tinin_ | i copied from the pc running kubuntu | 12:12 |
tinin_ | that is what resolv.cof says | 12:13 |
vidd_laptop | if you set it to your gateway, then it will pass the correct stuff to your box | 12:13 |
tinin_ | how? | 12:13 |
tinin_ | how should resolv.conf look like? | 12:14 |
slow-motion | n8 | 12:15 |
cellofellow | I have a DNS mirror/server on 192.168.0.3, so my resolv.conf points to that. My router is 192.168.0.2 and my gateway is 192.168.0.1. | 12:16 |
cellofellow | I use DHCP from the server to set my IP (which is still always the same) and my gateway, etc. | 12:17 |
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tinin_ | this is what my ifconfig says | 12:20 |
tinin_ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27875/ | 12:20 |
tinin_ | i'm like a blind in the jungle | 12:23 |
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