=== miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === elbing [n=elbing@143.Red-83-40-150.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === elbing [n=elbing@143.Red-83-40-150.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === tinycat_ [n=tinycat@219.249.159.223] has joined #xubuntu === rajkalyan [n=rajkalya@140-155.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === |GrueTam| [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === ardaz27 [n=greg@cpe-66-25-64-211.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:54] anyone have experience getting linksys usb200m working with xubuntu? [01:55] !logs [01:55] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [01:55] thanks === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.126.143] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana__ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-176-250.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-67-158-169-239.fairpoint.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-76-223-80-221.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === ipx-laptop [n=ipx@c-27f7e455.41-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #xubuntu === tors [i=c00hjn@peppar.cs.umu.se] has joined #xubuntu === eagle_101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mmc [n=jim@adsl-76-223-80-221.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.223.8.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:49] if your sudoer file gets corrupt, how can you fix it? [03:50] without reinstalling? [03:52] vidd_laptop: did you try sudo visudo? [03:53] got the same error message [03:53] what is the error message? [03:54] >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 20 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20 [03:54] vidd_laptop: well, go to the line 20 of that file and look what is wrong [03:54] does: sudo nano /etc/sudoers work? [03:54] no [03:54] you can't open the file at all? [03:54] vidd_laptop: why not? [03:55] j1mc, no, same error [03:55] ah, sudo [03:55] :) [03:55] vidd_laptop: boot into recovery mode :) === pinkwerks [n=ubuntu@cpe-66-91-16-229.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:56] TheSheep, from grub? [03:56] vidd_laptop: how did it get corrupted? [03:57] uhm....mistype [03:57] was looking at the file.... [03:57] vidd_laptop: well, you have to get into root acocunt somehow [03:58] vidd_laptop: recovery mode is one way [03:59] but will it work with sudo out of commission and no root passwrd? [04:00] vidd_laptop: doesn't recovery mode give you the root console right after boot? [04:00] idk...i never used it b4 [04:00] vidd_laptop: if not there are other methods -- passing init=/bin/bash to kernel options or booting from livecd [04:01] anything that can be done remotely? [04:01] vidd_laptop: find a security hole and exploit it ;) [04:01] vidd_laptop: visudo validates the sudoers file prior to saving it. i admit to using sudo nano /etc/sudoers file previously myself, but ... not anymore. [04:01] vidd_laptop: you *really* wouldn't want it to be possible remotely :) [04:02] oh sweet..... [04:03] i DID make a user that aliased root.... [04:03] im in [04:04] and use visudo :) [04:05] even if you don't really know vi -- every admin should know vi === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:11] Hi, just booted up xubuntu 7.04 live cd, xfce4-panel fails to start... is this fixed in a newer (beta) version of the cd? [04:11] i can start it manually just fine, but i'm trying to pass this off to my mom [04:12] pinkwerks: what are the specs on the system? [04:12] dell laptop, inspiron 9300 [04:12] pinkwerks: I think the problem only appears on some computers [04:12] pinkwerks: let me check the bug report [04:12] k was, looking thru the bugs but didn't find anything, then again maybe i didn't query it right :-P [04:13] pinkwerks: I can't get used to using this search -- it almost seem self-aware and malicious [04:14] also, if I close the terminal which i lanuch `xfce4-panel &` from it kills the panel - weird. [04:14] pinkwerks: that's normal -- the processes form a tree in linux [04:14] pinkwerks: if you kill one process, you also kill all its children [04:15] um, but i backgrounded it... [04:17] pinkwerks: an inspiron 9300... does it have a PIII or PIV or... ? and how much RAM? [04:17] j1mc : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz, MemTotal: 1035696 kB [04:18] j1mc : "centrino" not sure what that falls under [04:18] Bug #94182 [04:18] Launchpad bug 94182 in xfce "Missing panels in Xubuntu Feisty Fawn i386 LiveCD Herd 5 (dup-of: 53897)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94182 [04:18] Launchpad bug 53897 in xfce4-panel "Disappearing panels Xubuntu dapper" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53897 [04:20] TheSheep : would I be 'better off' using v6. (dapper) or just have her double click the 'install' on the desktop and be over with it? just trying to replace winxp on an old computer [04:20] pinkwerks: it all depends on what she uses it for [04:20] it's possible that this won't even occur on the desktop system she'll be putting it on - well just email and web [04:20] pinkwerks: many times users feel hurt by forced transition to linux, and will hate it [04:21] TheSheep, yah well as long as it comes up with firefox and thunderbird that's all she'll need [04:22] pinkwerks: I'm sure that even if the panels don't apper at the forst boot, it can be easily fixed [04:22] appear* [04:22] TheSheep: i'll try this disk in the target system, hopefully it's a non-issue, thanks for the inputs [04:22] ps - slick stuff! [04:26] pinkwerks: hmm... that duplicate bug shows that the panel disappearing happens often when yuo have faulty cd [04:26] pinkwerks: have you tested the cd for defects? [04:26] TheSheep : I did the test before i used it :-/ [04:26] pinkwerks: I'd advice doing it before install anywyas [04:26] ah, ok [04:30] pinkwerks: found out why the bug search is so malicious on me -- it won't display duplicate bugs [04:30] pinkwerks: by default, that is [04:30] TheSheep: well I don't have much else to add, other than I hope it doesn't bork on the other machine - should I add some hardware info or anything to one of the bugs? [04:31] pinkwerks: might be useful. Even a simple 'mee too' sometimes helps [04:32] Thanks again! [04:37] Is there a handy command that will some up my system config for bug reports? [04:39] hmm.. there was something... [04:39] !info canoe [04:39] canoe: Log file aggregator and report tool (Gtk2 frontend). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-2 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 120 kB [04:39] !info upstreamdev [04:39] upstreamdev: Log file aggregator and report tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-2 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 180 kB [04:40] pinkwerks: but I have no idea how to use it [04:41] TheSheep : okay tanks === pinkwerks [n=ubuntu@cpe-66-91-16-229.hawaii.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-88-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illu45@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@247.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.194.39.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-76-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Will_Draven [n=willdrav@cpe-066-026-043-000.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.194.39.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-76-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.194.39.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:55] skipping non-regular file "kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.manifest" anyone know why? === OGDA is now known as BFTD [06:57] oops [06:58] wasnt copying the whole think [06:58] im trying to make a iso image mirror but when i run "rsync -r rsync://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ ./releases/" all get is a whole bunch of skipping non-regular file "kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.manifest" error or other files but same error === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === kikr [n=ant@ool-435499fc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === tyler__ [n=tyler446@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:15] anyone know how to get liquid wars game on xubuntu 6.06? [07:15] grabbed some debs and well libc6 is older version [07:15] dont' want to mess anything up :/ [07:16] it's in the repos [07:17] what is in the repos? [07:17] liquid war [07:17] for 6.06 dapper? [07:18] according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/liquidwar it is [07:18] ahh I got it now [07:18] thought it was called liquid war(s) [07:18] synaptic search function can be a bit crappy at times :( [07:19] yeah, sometimes it's best to just type in a single word and see if what you're looking for comes up [07:19] umm..? [07:19] wtf [07:20] all of the 1337 users just got booted? === tyler__ talks dirty things behind their back while they gone [07:20] hehe [07:20] that was weird [07:20] yeah seriously [07:20] that network must have had a failure [07:20] mmm === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACB0F510.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu [07:21] on the other hand, i'm currently connected thru the same server [07:22] mrigns: omg you use aol? === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === kookie [n=ashtar@CPE00032f390ded-CM0011e67bbf01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:23] Ghostvirus: uh oh they coming back.. its like night of the zombies [07:23] hello, how do I install fonts in xubuntu? [07:23] tyler__: fun's over [07:23] juicyfruity: /etc/X11/xorg.conf edit it and play around in Settings under menu [07:24] juicyfruity: put them in ~/.fonts [07:24] why should I edit xorg for fonts [07:24] ...... [07:24] I dunno depends on what sort of fanciful fonts you aiming for ;) [07:24] what reasons would Xorg have for using up 35% of my 512mb ram? (note: i did design a theme earlier and went back and forth testing it, but that was hours ago) [07:25] thankyou, Ghostvirus, I was looking for some sort of frontend like in gnome! [07:25] juicyfruity: no problem. if you want to install fonts system-wide, toss them into /usr/share/fonts [07:26] ceil420: if nothing else is using the ram then why not let it have 35%? I mean so long as it can be removed later for other apps [07:26] tyler__, *can* it be removed later, when other apps need it? [07:26] ceil420: could try ctrl alt backspace to reset xorg maybe [07:27] tyler__, i'm trying to avoid that, cos i have an IRC bot running and it's a pain in the ass to start back up ;x [07:27] ceil420: yeah I'm usually got my 512mb used up all the way and then I play a really big program and rest gets compressed down to near nothing its hard to get correct reading of ram usage [07:27] (i really should give it a "on start" script to handle that crap) [07:27] as long as it'll hand over the RAM when other stuff needs it, t's okay i guess [07:27] i just noticed that my RAM usage was at 72% total instead of it's usual 52% :x [07:28] ceil420: yeah it might slowly deteriorate over time back down to 50 some [07:28] at first i thought it was Firefox raping my ram more than usual, then i looked at conky and it showed Xorg on top >< [07:29] ceil420: what drivers you using for graphics anyway? [07:29] uhm [07:29] nvidia glx? :x [07:29] ceil420: i constantly have a problem with xorg eating my cpu [07:29] kool I like nvidia cards [07:29] not 100% sure; i had problems with it a few months ago [07:29] i've been through like three of 'em [07:30] Ghostvirus, Xorg never touches my CPU, and it's never this bad on my ram :o [07:30] ghostvirus: if you don't have direct rendering setup that usually happens unless its a really good driver you got going [07:30] usually my total CPU usage is between 2 and 8% when i'm not doin' anything (of 1.7ghz) [07:31] usually my ram tops out at like 55% :x now even with Firefox closed it's at 62% [07:31] ceil420: hmm there are hard drive things that comp usually does when its idle, like update search database, finish up ext3 journals, and shuffle about memory [07:31] tyler__: i'm running on the ati driver, direct rendering and everything, on a 64 MB Radeon Mobility 7500. no idea why xorg pushes my cpu usage up so much [07:31] with Xorg accounting for a (steady, at least) 35.83% of that [07:31] ghostvirus: same card here in laptop I'm on, its a dell latitude c640 === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #xubuntu === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1242393048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === W8TAH [n=tholmes@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu === TheSheep [n=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu [07:32] i'm not using any compositing either === Pumpernickle [n=Pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:32] wtf, again === TheSheep_ [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu [07:32] netsplits ftl :x [07:32] damn channel spammers :P [07:32] they're rare enough on freenode tho, to my knowledge [07:32] it's real bad on networks like quakenet [07:33] perhaps there was a new release of something awesome? [07:33] why is the xfce forum so dead? === W8TAH_ [n=tholmes@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] most use the ubuntu forum that's why, I mean there not many xubuntu specific things [07:33] kubuntu is mostly dead too I bet === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1242393048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [07:34] also, whatever happened to xubuntu.info? [07:34] more distros than xubuntu use xfce tho :p [07:34] I need a method to do integrated ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, and xubuntu search forum :) === ceil420 's never even looked at the xfce forum, tho [07:34] maybe some way to manage logging into them too === tyler__ hasn't either [07:35] the xfce mailing lists are pretty active though [07:36] the thing i liked about xubuntu.info was that there was a forum specifically for xubuntu users, kind of like http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #xubuntu [07:38] ghostvirus: any good xfce reads you know of? [07:39] tyler__: not really. the xfce wiki has some interesting bits, but that's all i know of [07:40] xfce seems to be considered for old computers, and for power users [07:40] I was kind of hoping on some current development topics [07:40] xfce is awesome :) [07:40] and most say linux is for power users so I'm hoping xfce stays true to its nature [07:41] tyler__: http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev/ [07:41] ah thx [07:41] that mailing list is pretty active [07:41] i subscribed to it, but a lot of it is over my head, as i'm no programmer [07:43] you post any to it? [07:43] nope. just subscribed today. and i don't want to make a nuisance of myself anyway [07:44] i mostly just want to stay up-to-date on what's happening [07:44] but yeah, not too many distros use xfce by default. most popular ones seem to be zenwalk, dreamlinux and xubuntu === test3r [n=shane@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:46] i got issues :p [07:46] dreamlinux really tweaked the heck outta xfce there, lookts sort of like a mac [07:46] call it i need a BS in CS [07:46] call it sumthin. but i should b able to get a job ya htink [07:47] besides lame-o job [07:47] tyler__: yeah i know. that's why i don't like it. i hate that dock thing [07:47] is that kiba dock? [07:47] tyler__: i think it's engage === test3r haet dock thing 2. [07:48] ah some them beryl users like using the kiba dock for special effects though [07:48] test3r: are you drunk? heh [07:48] =O [07:48] i just run Conky [07:48] drunk? no i wouldnt say that [07:49] tyler__: i could never get into the whole dock thing. it works on os x, but not on anything else i've seen [07:49] but i AM pretty tired . i think i have to sleep, wake, sleep then wake for my work shift [07:49] test3r: work sucks :( [07:50] its just tough switching over to night shift for my body what whatever reason [07:50] ghostvirus: I never liked it either, why not just put tiny desktop icons there? like cut desktop in half bottom has small icons [07:50] yeah u could fit alot more in the same place [07:50] processing refresh on that would be a mess [07:50] tyler__: i dunno. i've always liked the 1 panel on he bottom setup, like windows [07:51] i sound like a heretic [07:51] yeah! if panel is on top its like having mouse buttons reversed to left handed [07:51] can't function right [07:51] i stil use two pannel default setup [07:51] besides you have to break your neck looking up at screen and tilting laptop up === TheSheep_ likes the panel on the right [07:51] with a slew of usermade icons on the top lol [07:52] hey anyone here have an irc client that outputs new posts on top? [07:52] then why have a desktop like that!? [07:52] my setup is pretty minimal. i'm running at 1024x768 so space is precious [07:52] tyler__: because it's *your* way that's backwards ;) [07:52] nah I sort of like having a hidden panel that pops out on the right [07:52] tyler__: you're just conditioned [07:53] Dinosaurs! RUN! [07:53] rofl [07:53] nice exit right there [07:53] folr [07:53] Ghostvirus: rawrrgh [07:54] too much of xkcd, apparently [07:54] xkcd? [07:54] tyler__: .com [07:54] TheSheep: hey look, a new one: http://xkcd.com/c283.html [07:54] hehe nice [07:55] tyler__: it's amazing [07:55] you guys read perry bible fellowship? [07:56] http://www.pbfcomics.com/ [07:56] best damn webcomic out there [07:56] maybe we should move over next door to #xubuntu-offtopic? [07:56] i'm there [07:58] so you guys ever try zenwalk? === kikr_ [n=ant@ool-435499fc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FEF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === tyler_ [n=tyler446@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #xubuntu [08:27] hi anyone know of any weird XFCE bug in Gutsy causing Xorg lockups about 5 mins in from starting X === tyler_ is now known as gerro === light[afk] [n=light@203-97-172-224.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:53] hiya, can anyone help me automatically have my CPU governor change when I plug in my laptop? === light[afk] is now known as serenecloud === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-61-132.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === serenecloud is now known as light[afk] === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.194.39.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] === insmod [n=insmod@d141-13-36.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu === biotrox [n=marcos@202.182.48.202] has joined #xubuntu === biotrox [n=marcos@202.182.48.202] has left #xubuntu [] === Dual [n=nickyy@82.198.0.170.satgate.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:15] hello every1 [10:15] im trying to format/install xubntu feisty over ubuntu edgy! the instalation reach 54% and hangs there! [10:15] now i cant start up with xp nor linux! [10:16] at boot it gives me grub error 15 [10:21] Dual: what is it doing at 54%? [10:21] 'generating anthy dict'? [10:21] copying files [10:21] and stops [10:21] there [10:22] Dual: have you checked the cd for defects? [10:22] ya i did [10:22] it had one error [10:22] so i burned it again and again and again [10:22] did it 5 times! [10:22] !md5 [10:23] ii did it as well [10:23] they dont have the hash of xubuntu 7.04 [10:23] the latest is 6.. [10:23] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [10:23] how come? [10:23] Dual: well, if the cd is broken, there is small chance it will work :/ [10:23] TheSheep_ check it [10:24] TheSheep_ its not! thts the thing.. [10:24] i tried 4 [10:24] and i even went and bought a new 100 cd pack just to b sure [10:24] Dual: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS [10:25] ok TheSheep_ just a sec lemme check [10:25] k its calculating [10:26] meanwhile.. i downloaded the iso on 2 seperate occasions! using a download manager [10:26] would tht cause a prob? [10:26] shouldn't [10:26] hmm [10:26] theyre different :S [10:27] tried the 2 i386 theyre both different! [10:28] Dual: look on the bright side -- your cd burner is ok :) [10:28] lol [10:28] ya well wanna use my desktop in the near future though.. [10:28] cant even format with xp! [10:28] it shuts down by itself when i try to delete the C partition [10:28] im thinking of zapping it [10:29] but i have 9 gb of IMPORTANt data over it :S [10:29] Dual: how long would a new download take? [10:29] forever [10:30] 15 kb.. :S [10:30] Dual: you can try downloading DSL or some other small distro, prepare partitions with it and then install xp (just for the time being) [10:30] i could do it at work though theres download limitation [10:30] ya i could do tht [10:30] how small is "small distro" ? [10:30] Dual: there are linux dikettes :) [10:31] am a newbie when it comes to linux! i tried ubuntu and then decided to switch to xubuntu and all this mess happened [10:31] Dual: you don't have the ubuntu cd anymore? [10:32] no [10:32] bought the pc with ubuntu allready installed [10:32] always check the checksum before burning, and the cd for defects before installing -- this simply saves time and hassle [10:32] true [10:33] i shouldve though i was a bit excited bout the xubuntu issue since my desktoip is a low end pc.. [10:33] and ubuntu were kinda making it hang every now and then [10:33] Dual: maybe you have a LUG nearby and someone could help you with his livecd [10:33] a frind has red hat [10:33] Dual: or there is a magazine that has some linux attached to it [10:34] anyway could u guide me to the "small distro" u told me about! [10:34] Dual: better this than nothing [10:34] Dual: let me see what there is -- I haven't checked recently [10:34] ok thank you:) srry if im bothering you with this [10:39] Dual: ok, there seem to be no diskette-based distros recently :/ [10:39] Dual: the smallest I see are aboiut 50MB [10:40] well thts gr8 [10:40] its perfect i could get it in 30 min [10:40] could u provide me a link plz [10:40] http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html [10:41] thank you [10:41] so i do the installation exactly like other distro right? [10:41] Dual: this is a live cd [10:41] Dual: it has an option to copy itself on the hard drive though [10:42] Dual: it has a basic set of applications, including firefox [10:42] Dual: ain't pretty, but should do until you get something better [10:42] ya exactly [10:42] thank you [10:43] and once again sorry if i bothered [10:43] ill give it a try and if anythign came up ill get back ... [10:43] once again [10:43] thanks [10:44] no problem === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@84-253-209-119.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === JonathanMM [n=jonathan@gsv95-1-82-233-15-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === JonathanMM [n=jonathan@gsv95-1-82-233-15-232.fbx.proxad.net] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177903622.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-114-243.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === D-- [n=d--@flosoft.biz] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-61-132.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === tinin [n=tinin@34.Red-88-9-234.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === meister_ [n=chatzill@p5494EE71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === meister_ is now known as dario === dario is now known as xBill === D-- [n=d--@flosoft.biz] has left #xubuntu [] === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-61-132.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === Will^Draven [n=willdrav@cpe-066-026-043-000.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-61-132.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === tinin [n=tinin@212.Red-83-41-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:38] Hi! Could someone show me how to connect a xubuntu pc to a router? === case__ is now known as case_ === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] I'm thinking my resolution so small :S === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] and when I try to change, its so stranger :S === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@213.186.248.246] has joined #xubuntu === tinin [n=tinin@97.Red-88-17-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-61-132.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-174-186.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === k_ [n=k@69.2.35.56] has joined #xubuntu [04:30] im having a bit of an issue with plugin menus in firefox. whenever i have my browser on my second monitor (xinerama) - none of my menus show properly. is there a way to fix this? [04:31] its like firefox expects 1024x768 but its 1280x1024 === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@158.135.24.26] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-19-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === cheeseboy [n=greg@24-107-237-143.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:00] hi [05:00] my pc has terrible specs === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FEF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:00] and i cant upgrade [05:00] any way i can make it faster? [05:06] cheeseboy: you can run something like fluxbox or icewm [05:07] cheeseboy: i have an old computer here at work and with a debian base install with fluxbox ontop i use 27mb of ram at an idle fresh login [05:07] but i want to be able to run xfce and other programs [05:08] cheeseboy: well you can run all programs you want from within either fluxbox, xfce, icewm, gnome, kde, etc... [05:09] cheeseboy: but to run xfce you might want to try uninstalling things you don't need or use [05:09] i installed from command line === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu [05:22] cheeseboy: installing from command line doesn't really make a difference === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-19-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illu45@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.112.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06E120.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:46] hey slow-motion [05:46] hi BFTD [05:47] nice day eh? === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:02] how to burn an dvd iso to a dvd from comand line? [06:03] !dvd-tools [06:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:04] !dvd+rw-tools [06:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd+rw-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:04] ok, install dvd-rw-tools [06:05] dvd+rw-tools* === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === abo [i=abo0@adsl238214.mobiel.utwente.nl] has joined #xubuntu [06:14] hello wireless not working with network-manager i hear there is some shell script available to make it work ? === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #xubuntu [06:21] maybe another app then the network-manager ? is there another way ? [06:22] its kinda dead in here [06:23] yes it is [06:27] i used to run suse it worked there so my wireless is supported by kernel, so the configurations is only not correct === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-54.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:27] hey cellofellow vidd said its ok to run a test site on his server [06:27] or not... === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-19-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [06:36] i'm going to try to configure it again, try some new triks :( === MrMist [n=neo@89.10.25.71] has joined #xubuntu [06:39] Hi all [06:40] I'm wondering.. Previously I've installed XUbuntu with the standard settings. Now I've got a separate boot-partition, where I'd like GRUB to reside. How do I do this ? [06:41] i think grub resides in the Master Boot Record, aka hd0 [06:42] i think it has to stay there unless you use something else to point to the new location [06:43] Hmm [06:43] I've installed Gentoo from before, and there I made a separate partition for GRUB and the kernel === dan40 [n=chatzill@c-68-62-217-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:44] im might be wrong [06:44] its probably my windows showing [06:45] how do you throttle the cpu and HD? [06:46] How about alternate install ? Is that what I'm after ?? === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-54.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:46] hey cellofellow vidd said its ok to run a test site on his server [06:47] Jester45: sweet. I'll do that a bit later, I have schoolwork first. [06:47] but, he erased his sudoers list :) so he cant make a ftp user right now [06:47] Jester45: so, do I have something like /home/cellofellow and vidd.us/~cellofellow available? [06:47] dang [06:48] yes [06:48] sounds like a livecd+chroot to the rescue situation. [06:48] yep, but its a headless server thats colocated that doesnt have a cd drive [06:49] how do you throttle the cpu and HD? I heard that with Ubuntu you can do that. [06:49] throttle the CPU ? [06:49] you need hardware that supports it === cellofellow is now known as cello_busy [06:50] I've got a Core Duo laptop, and it supports throttling only because the default operating speed is 1GHz/core (to save the battery) [06:50] This is a laptop that I am interested in throttling [06:50] It's automatic [06:50] !repeat | MrMist [06:50] MrMist: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [06:51] Jester45: Huh ?? [06:51] oh..I guess I was mistakin I thought you could lower the cycles on any app [06:51] eeer [06:51] thats for dan40 [06:52] Jester45: Hehe.. OK :) [06:52] you can use load balancing or you can also limit the clock rate of a cpu [06:52] ok, how do you limit the clock rate? [06:53] the number of level is called steppings [06:53] yeah..thats what I read about...steppings [06:53] Is there any pros or cons about having a separate boot-partition? [06:53] I couldn't remember the terminology [06:53] Wouldn't it make things easier if installing multiple Linux-versions f.eks. ? [06:54] run cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep stepping to see if you can use it [06:54] !steppings [06:54] Sorry, I don't know anything about steppings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:54] mrigns, you dont want to mix kernels unless you custom made them, ubuntu makes their own kernels redhat makes other [06:54] Cool. My CPU does :D [06:55] result ..steppings: 10 [06:55] then you can do 10 diffrent levels [06:55] whats the cpu [06:55] do cat /proc/cpuinfo to find out [06:56] k...one sec [06:56] Jester45: Yeah, I know. But having separate OS'es would work, right? One partition for XUbuntu, one for gentoo etc. Of course, the programs have to be installed separately for each OS [06:57] result: Genuine Intel Pentium III 846.666 Mhz [06:57] Still, only one version of GRUB could be run. [06:57] MrMist, yes, but each distro shouldnt use the same kernel because each distro makes their own kernels, the only reson to use the same kernel would be a extreme lack of space a custom kernel of your own making or the vanilla kernel [06:58] they can use the same grub === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [06:59] hiya hyper_ch [06:59] hiho Jester45 [07:00] vidd erased his sudoers file :) [07:01]