[07:01] <nixternal> shhh, you guys are making to much noise
[10:09] <Hobbsee> proofreading announcements and such is good
[10:09] <Hobbsee> Tride 2 CD Released  on http://kubuntu.org/ is obviously not correct
[10:09] <Hobbsee> how does one fix it?
[10:32] <Hobbsee> hiya Jucato
[10:44] <doc__> hi there
[10:46] <Hobbsee> hiya
[11:10] <Jucato> h Hobbsee
[11:11] <Hobbsee> ahhh :)
[11:12] <Jucato> what was that thing you guys used in UDS where you can listen in on the talks/sessions?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> voip?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> a phone in the middle of the table?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> twinkle?
[11:13] <Jucato> hm... voip I think... nvm :)
[11:15] <Hobbsee> it's time for Dr Who!
[11:29] <Tonio_> yo
[11:34] <mhb> good morning
[12:10] <Tonio_> Jucato: developpers, developpers, developpers.......
[12:35] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: you screwed it up.
[12:35] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: kdepim
[12:35] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: file conflicts all over the place
[12:35] <Hobbsee> thought you said you were fixing, not breakign :P
[12:36] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: argh
[12:36] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: looks like I missed to put the correct conflicts in the control file
[12:36] <Tonio_> damn......
[12:36] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's a common issue when moving the files within the packages
[12:37] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: btw, just apt-get remove kdepim-data upgrade and install kdepim-data
[12:37] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: there is no conflict in the package, there is a conflict between the old package and the new one
[12:37] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: no impact on new installatio for example
[12:37] <Tonio_> I should have thought about that
[12:38] <Tonio_> okay I'll upload a transition version with the correct conflicts in it
[12:38] <Tonio_> I suck ;)
[12:38] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: hrm.  seems running it thru again works
[12:39] <Hobbsee> so yeah, it doesnt look like a conflict this time
[12:39] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: btw - when you uploaded kdebase, you didnt bother to take my changes to it
[12:39] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the point is that some components like knode are updated before kdepim-data
[12:39] <Tonio_> depends the order
[12:39] <Hobbsee> true
[12:39] <Tonio_> if kdepim-data is uploaded first, no conflict
[12:40] <Tonio_> if you go over the conflict, then kdepim-data will be upgraded
[12:40] <Tonio_> then a second dist-upgrade will work
[12:40] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: also I've prepared the packaging for opensync, but everything is disabled at the moment
[12:41] <Hobbsee> right
[12:41] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: once we have opensync in main, all we have to do is uncomment everything in debian/control and reupload
[12:41] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[12:41] <Tonio_> so basically, the first dist-upgrade fails, but the second will work.... no need to fix then
[12:41] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's acceptable during a dev-cycle
[12:41] <Hobbsee> true
[12:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: btw we have to consider a future festy-> gutsy upgrade
[12:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the problem will be the same
[12:42] <Hobbsee> indeed.
[12:42] <Hobbsee> that's between herd 4 and 5, so we need to think around herd 4
[12:42] <Hobbsee> s/herd/tribe/
[12:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: what w should do is say in debian/control than knode conflicts with kdepim-data (< xxx)
[12:42] <Tonio_> but that'll have another impact :
[12:43] <Tonio_> kdepim-data will be deleted, and therefore will be kubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <Tonio_> and kdepi-data will then not be upgraded
[12:43] <Tonio_> I think a 2 shots upgrades is "better"
[12:44] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: what changes in kdebase ?
[12:44] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: did I miss something ?
[12:44] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the bzr content looked outdated, I just checked the changelog file, nothing in it, so I avoided this, yes
[12:45] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: maybe we should take care of filling the changelog everytime we upload
[12:45] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: sorry if I missed something, what was it ?
[12:47] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: just be sure it's not that I didn't bother to put your changes to it, I didn't sa them
[12:47] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: otherwise I of course would have done it :)
[01:33] <Jucato> is it possible to see who confirmed a bug report in LP?
[01:33] <Jucato> oh nvm duh!
[01:36] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: the changelog *was* filled.
[01:36] <Hobbsee> for kdebase
[01:37] <Hobbsee> hi Jucato
[01:37] <Jucato> I was looking if a bug was filed in Adept... ended up trying to triage some adept bugs lol
[01:37] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: hu ? strange, I was sure I had checked
[01:37] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: sorry for this then I'll have to be more carefull next time
[01:38] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: no problem, i uploaded a version when you did
[01:38] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: ho so you already uploaded bzr ?
[01:38] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: want me to prepare a package ?
[01:38] <Jucato> is there a setting in LP that automatically subscribes you to a bug you comment on?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: i did fro kdebase, but i've modified others too
[01:39] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I can't see your changes in bzr/kdebase
[01:39] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the revision is version 2
[01:39] <Tonio_> means your initial upload and my upload
[01:40] <Tonio_> this is why I didn't took care of the changes, revision was revision one, means no change for me
[01:40] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: am I wrong
[01:40] <Tonio_> ?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> looking
[01:40] <Hobbsee> grumble
[01:41] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: did I do something wrong ?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: dont think so
[01:41] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: maybe you just didn't commit your changes, since we now should be at revision 3
[01:41] <Tonio_> means initial, your upload and my upload
[01:42] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: i committed, i dont remember pushing though
[01:42] <Hobbsee> which is odd, as i'd seen my changes their earlier
[01:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: very strange......
[01:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: do you bzr push or bzr commit ?
[01:42] <Tonio_> I don't know the difference I must say, I generally bzr update and bzr commit, using the same way than with svn
[01:43] <Hobbsee> you certainly need to commit first
[01:43] <Hobbsee> but i suspect you need to push after that
[01:45] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I didn't push
[01:46] <Tonio_> just commit
[01:46] <Hobbsee> right
[01:46] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: can you see my changes ?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> yes
[01:46] <Tonio_> strange.....
[01:46] <Tonio_> basically you can usr bzr like svn
[01:46] <Tonio_> bzr checkout
[01:46] <Tonio_> bzr update
[01:46] <Tonio_> bzr add
[01:46] <Tonio_> bzr commit
[01:47] <Tonio_> that's enoght for the common usage
[01:47] <Tonio_> good point with bzr, no need to "bzr delete" to remove files, just remove them
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: k, so it just hates me.
[01:47] <Hobbsee> no idea why, because that's what i did
[01:47] <Tonio_> very strange.......
[01:48] <Tonio_> well I could have overwritten your changes, but the revision number would have grown in that case...
[01:50] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: any suggestions for the multimedia part ? I'll work on that next week, means video players integration and kdebluetooth mostly
[01:50] <Tonio_> there is a path I'd like to be done for kdebluetooth, to change the stupid way it works in the systray
[01:51] <Tonio_> you have 2 modes : always display the icon or only display when there is an active connection, that's fairly stupid
[01:51] <Tonio_> the icon should show up when there is a bluetooth capable device detected, and hide if there isn't
[01:51] <Tonio_> because without the icon there is no way to initiate the icon without going manually in konq
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: pushing kdemultimedia now.
[01:51] <Hobbsee> we'll see if it hates me
[01:52] <Tonio_> and there is no reason to always show
[01:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: hehe :)
[01:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: well multimedia for me means kaffeine, kmplayer
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: ah right, so not kdemultimedia
[01:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I don't play a lot with kdemltimedia in fact
[01:52] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:/devel/kde3.5.7/kdemultimedia/kdemultimedia-3.5.7/debian$ bzr push sftp://hobbsee@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/debian
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Enter passphrase for key '/home/sarah/.ssh/id_dsa':
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Pushed up to revision 3.
[01:52] <Hobbsee> no one does
[01:52] <Hobbsee> it still had bugs from *breezy*
[01:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: ouch.........
[01:52] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:53] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: then w should give it love I guess :)
[01:53] <Tonio_> alleeOSX: hey :)
[01:53] <Tonio_> alleeOSX: what's the status of bluetooth/feisty ?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: requires someone with knowledge about it.  i went thru a whole chunk of it
[01:54] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: okay... https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/debian
[01:54] <Tonio_> alleeOSX: I wanted to give a look at the kdebluetooth branch, but I know your already did so I'd appreciate that we sync our efforts :)
[01:54] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: great
[01:54] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: already created a project for this ?
[01:54] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: yeah, ages ago.  actually, i think one was already created
[01:54] <Tonio_> okay
[01:54] <Hobbsee> we should probably move the branches to be under a KDE project before going too far, though
[01:54] <Tonio_> how do you initially create a branch, simply ?
[01:54] <Tonio_> no time to read the bzr doc :)
[01:55] <Tonio_> just do a bzr add
[01:55] <Tonio_> but how to put the branch behind the good project ?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> just read the relevant section of the howto
[01:55] <Tonio_> bzr push I guess ?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> bzr push sftp://<your LP ID>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<team you want to have access>/<project name>/<branchname>
[01:55] <Hobbsee> after a commit, etc
[01:57] <Tonio_> okay, that's not very clear in the wiki
[01:57] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'ts slightly confusing
[01:57] <gnomefreak> you sometimes need to use --create-prefix
[01:58] <Tonio_> the point is that in the "new branch" section, they talk about a bzr commit BEFORE the initial upload, which doesn't make sense to me
[02:01] <Hobbsee> well, you do commit before you push.  it seems
[02:03] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: strange :)
[02:03] <Hobbsee> indeed.
[02:03] <Hobbsee> it's still a bit of a black art to me
[02:04] <Hobbsee> but hey...downloading kde* for one little fix is annoying.
[02:04] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: well that means commit is for local update, and then push to sync with the server
[02:04] <Hobbsee> right, yeah
[02:04] <Hobbsee> sometimes it seems to uplaod anyway...bah, i dont know
[02:04] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the point is that I NEVER did a push for kds for example, just commit -m "my message"
[02:04] <Tonio_> and that's it
[02:04] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: right.  which is odd.
[02:05] <Tonio_> yup, I'll have to investigate on that poinr
[02:05] <Tonio_> s/r/t
[02:05] <Hobbsee> definetly
[02:05] <Tonio_> okay k3b building, I leave the computer for a moment :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> what page is this that tells you how to use bzr?
[02:06] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: is there a way to force the tralsnation for universe apps ?
[02:06] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: atm, afaik, the only way to get an app in the langpacks is to have the apps in main
[02:06] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: but some apps have very poor translation, despite they are widelly used, like kerry for example
[02:07] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: is there a way to force the pot file extraction for a specific universe app ?
[02:07] <Tonio_> mhb manchicken: I was able to finish the patch for kerry and nie integration with knotes :)
[02:07] <Tonio_> mhb, manchicken: as always, one line -> one hour :)
[02:08] <Tonio_> that took me a moment for a very simple thing :)
[02:08] <Tonio_> there where 2 bugs in fact...
[02:08] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: no idea @ translations.  my main language is english, so it's not something i notice much
[02:08] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's the problem ;)
[02:09] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: kerry translation is really, really poor
[02:09] <Hobbsee> ahh
[02:09] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:09] <Tonio_> but kerry is probably used by 30% of kubuntu users, at least
[02:09] <Hobbsee> but fair enough
[02:10] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: no but we should consider it a very important application, even if it is in universe
[02:10] <Hobbsee> true
[02:10] <Tonio_> same for klamav for example
[02:10] <Tonio_> I have plans for klamav and gutsy
[02:10] <gnomefreak> Tonio_: is that build with clamav by chance?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: what for?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yes
[02:10] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: good integration
[02:10] <gnomefreak> there is a clamav team now
[02:11] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: klamav is a requirement for kde based desktop in companies
[02:11] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: is there ? cool :)
[02:11] <Hobbsee> right
[02:11] <Hobbsee> aka main
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Tonio_: yeah it was made within the past week
[02:11] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: well I don't deal with clamav, but I maintain klamav for ages
[02:11] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: I      should join the team I guess
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Tonio_: if its built under same source than go for it
[02:11] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: no it is a separate tarball
[02:11] <gnomefreak> oh
[02:12] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: I hope the team will help in having a "clean" clamav-getfiles script
[02:12] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: I always had to fix it to work on ubuntu :)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> there was talk about dropping it iirc
[02:12] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: NO !
[02:12] <gnomefreak> but since new team i guess we keep it
[02:12] <Tonio_> that's so usefull !
[02:12] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: the script is really usefull in companies
[02:13] <gnomefreak> true
[02:13] <Tonio_> where you may want to release the signature database with your own schedule
[02:13] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: for example the french parliament support team will use it
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:14] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: that makes sense
[02:14] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: do you think companies allow automatic updates of their antivirus ?
[02:14] <Tonio_> that's way too dangerous
[02:14] <gnomefreak> true
[02:14] <Tonio_> so you have to control the antivirus update, but also the database update
[02:14] <Tonio_> that's probably the most important
[02:15] <Jucato> Hobbsee: could I borrow you for a while regarding bug 119243
[02:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119243 in adept "adept manager & license agreement issue" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119243
[02:15] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: is there a good frontend for gnome for clamav ?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> not that im aware of let me see if there is
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Jucato: looking
[02:16] <gnomefreak> avscan
[02:16] <Jucato> thankies :)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Tonio_: thats all i found
[02:17] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: okay :)
[02:17] <Hobbsee> Jucato: what about it?  if you're wanting someone to fix it, you should poke manchicken or Tonio_
[02:18] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh, just requesting to change it back to "bug"
[02:18] <Tonio_> manchicken: talking about adept, the repository manager fails to load
[02:18] <Tonio_> manchicken: an "update" is launched instead
[02:18] <Tonio_> manchicken: is that known issue
[02:18] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: want to see an amazing bug ?
[02:18] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I can't figure out how that's possible :)
[02:19] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: you should have openoffice.org-draw in the "found objects" in kmenu right ?
[02:19] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's the default on gutsy
[02:19] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: tried to get it in the nice section, the desktop file is correct
[02:19] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the bug is this :
[02:20] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: rename ooo-draw.desktop to whatever -> it goes in the good section
[02:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: done
[02:20] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: oo-draw.desktop for example, works
[02:20] <Jucato> Hobbsee: thankies :)
[02:20] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: mine's not in lost and found anymore.  i think they fixed that bug
[02:20] <Hobbsee> but that's...odd
[02:20] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: just rename it to ooo-draw.desktop -> the Categories section of the desktop file is ignored, and the entry goes in the "found objects"
[02:21] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I have the bug here
[02:21] <Hobbsee> weird
[02:21] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the bug is a kde bug, not a ooo one
[02:21] <Hobbsee> right
[02:21] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: a file called "ooo-draw.desktop" fails to be parsed by kde
[02:21] <Tonio_> well only the "Categories" fails to be parsed
[02:21] <Hobbsee> ahh
[02:21] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's probably the weirdest issue I've seen so far ;)
[02:22] <Tonio_> well I have a workarround -> patching the source to rename the desktop file
[02:22] <Tonio_> but that's not nice
[02:22] <Hobbsee> true
[02:23] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I'll do that just in case we can't find the real fix before the release
[02:23] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: can you confirm the repository manager fails to load in adept ?
[02:25] <Tonio_> latest k3b uploaded to ubuntu
[02:26] <Hobbsee> looking
[02:26] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I'll email the kdepim changes to debian once again, so hopfully we will not have to maintain the kontact services in the future
[02:26] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:26] <Hobbsee> k
[02:26] <Hobbsee> good luck with that one
[02:27] <Tonio_> yep :/
[02:28] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: even more strange
[02:29] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: create a oo-draw.desktop link in /usr/share/applications to ooo-draw.desktop
[02:29] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: manage repos just seems to call "fetch updates"
[02:29] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: you have 2 entries now :) the link goes in the good section-> graphics
[02:29] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the standard still fails to parse
[02:29] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: it is the "same" file, since it is a link :)
[02:30] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: f*ucked up isn't it ? ^^
[02:30] <Hobbsee> ah
[02:30] <Hobbsee> yeah
[02:30] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: yep same issue here :) we'll have to ping manchicken for this
[02:31] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I'll try to grep the kdelibs code for "ooo"
[02:31] <Tonio_> hobabut the strange thing is that the problem doesn't occur with ooo-impress for example
[02:31] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: so I thought the issue was with "draw"
[02:31] <Tonio_> I tried to rename to ooo-drow.desktop then
[02:31] <Tonio_> works too
[02:31] <Tonio_> whatever you change in the name, it works.......
[02:32] <Tonio_> I never saw something that strange in the linux world.....
[02:32] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: reminds me of my years using windows :)
[02:33] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:05] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: wednesday, 1400 UTC, are you around?
[03:08] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: yep
[03:08] <Hobbsee> cool
[03:08] <Tonio_> why ??
[03:08] <Hobbsee> meeting
[03:08] <Hobbsee> mhb: ?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ?
[03:08] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: oki ;)
[03:09] <Jucato> sure
[03:09] <Hobbsee> cool
[03:11] <Jucato> hm... will Riddell and kwwii be able to make it? their at the aKademy right?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Riddell: said he should be able to, he said 1400 was OK by him
[03:11] <Hobbsee> what stuff do you want discussed?
[03:11] <Jucato> kool :)
[03:12] <Jucato> moi? can't think of anything right now...
[03:12] <Hobbsee> all of you
[03:29] <xerosis> afternoon
[03:29] <Hobbsee> hiya
[03:30] <Hobbsee> xerosis: 1400 utc wednesday - are you around?
[03:30] <xerosis> Hobbsee: am on uni holidays so always around ;)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> excellent
[03:30] <Hobbsee> (where are you?)
[03:30] <xerosis> uni?
[03:31] <xerosis> or general?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> general
[03:32] <xerosis> Hobbsee: middle of england
[03:33] <Hobbsee> ahhh, nice
[03:33] <xerosis> it is for UTC :)
[03:33] <xerosis> must suck for you
[03:34] <xerosis> Hobbsee: erm, what's happening wednesday?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> kubuntu meeting
[03:35] <Hobbsee> midnight
[03:35] <Hobbsee> so not too bad
[03:36] <xerosis> is there an agenda yet?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings
[03:37] <jjesse> midnig utc? midnignt hobsse time?
[03:38] <xerosis> Hobbsee: I'm not a kubuntu member?
[03:38] <jjesse> xerosis: that doesn't mena you can't come
[03:38] <xerosis> jjesse: they might pick on me
[03:38] <jjesse> we are actually pretty nice :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:39] <Hobbsee> xerosis: doesnt matter
[03:39] <gnomefreak> xerosis: its safe
[03:39] <Hobbsee> jjesse: midnight my time
[03:39] <Hobbsee> jjesse: you coming?
[03:39] <jjesse> wednesday?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee time is different from au time?
[03:39] <jjesse> i should be able to make it
[03:40] <xerosis> gnomefreak: Hobbsee has her own time zone
[03:40] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:40] <Jucato> xerosis: Hobbsee's the only one who eats people for midnight snacks :)
[03:40] <xerosis> wait, was that an inadvertant fat joke...
[03:40] <Hobbsee> hahah
[03:40] <Hobbsee> true that
[03:40] <gnomefreak> it might help if there was a date and time prior to saying you can make it
[03:41] <xerosis> Hobbsee: agenda looks a bit sparse?
[03:41] <Hobbsee> xerosis: true that
[03:41] <gnomefreak> - bit sparse + bit empty
[03:41] <gnomefreak> - bit
[03:45] <xerosis> crikey, smoking ban tomorrow
[03:46] <xerosis> that came around quick
[03:46] <Hobbsee> yay!
[03:46] <Hobbsee> ahem.
[03:47] <xerosis> no smoking in pubs though, that's gonna be weird
[03:50] <xerosis> mhb: ping
[04:52] <mhb> xerosis: hi
[04:52] <mhb> LongPointyStick: good for me
[04:53] <mhb> LongPointyStick: the meeting time/date
[04:53] <xerosis> mhb: any luck with the g-c bug?
[04:57] <mhb> xerosis: -> jabber with that
[05:14] <LongPointyStick> mhb: cool
[07:31] <nixternal> Riddell: everyone is OK there in Glasgow I hope. Just seen the news :(
[07:32] <nixternal> I figure quite a few people were heading through that airport today for the Akademy possibly
[07:34] <mhb> nixternal: well, it's almost evening there
[07:36] <mhb> nixternal: and there is no information about injured people
[07:36] <nixternal> good...I just seen jjesse say something about it and flipped the news on really quick
[07:37] <nixternal> I am tired of this crap already
[07:38] <mhb> nixternal: I think it's not as bad as it may look in the media
[07:38] <nixternal> ya, it doesn't look bad at the scene, but I am still getting tired of idiots
[07:38] <nixternal> still the attempt and the idea behind it is enough to piss me off
[07:39] <mhb> nixternal: relax :o)
[07:39] <nixternal> that will relax me
[07:39] <nixternal> latah!
[07:42] <ScottK> Wow.
[07:51] <Prezu> Guys, I want to fix #6306 and got thru https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKiosktool. So the only problem with the spec is that kmfclient has no mkdir (or equivalent) command.
[07:52] <Prezu> So how do you think kiosktool should handle making dirs?
[07:53] <Prezu> I ment kfmclient of course...
[08:11] <Riddell> nixternal: not quite but almost
[08:13] <Prezu> Riddell: Could you please give me some advice on kiosktool's #6306? I mean the mkdir issue.
[08:15] <gian\out> ScottK: which news..?
[08:16] <gian\out> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm ok
[08:28] <jjesse> afternoon
[09:48] <Riddell> Prezu: I'm busy at akademy this week
[10:45] <nixternal> Riddell: tell everyone hello, be careful, and have fun :)
[10:46] <Tm_T> nixternal: you forget that akademy is serious matter, it must NOT be fun
[10:46] <nixternal> yes, but having fun is what it is all about, otherwise people would burn out :)
[10:47] <jjesse> afternoon
[10:48] <jjesse> did the car blowing up at the airport cause problems for aKademy or is that airport no where close to where akademy is being held?
[10:48] <Tm_T> nixternal: isn't that our main purpose, burn out?
[10:55] <fdoving> evenin'
[10:59] <nixternal> hehe
[10:59] <nixternal> howdy fdoving
[10:59] <nixternal> heh, I got a nice package from the EFF today. I forgot I donated them money
[11:13] <fdoving> with that t-shirt?
[11:13] <fdoving> i should donate some too.
[11:18] <nixternal> yup, got a t-shirt, ball cap, and stickers
[11:18] <nixternal> the stickers are top notch
[11:18] <jjesse> oooo my hero
[11:18] <jjesse> speaking of stickers, where are my kubuntu stickers?
[11:19] <nixternal> same place mine are
[11:19] <nixternal> not here!
[11:19] <jjesse> you know "powered by kubuntu" instead of powered by ubuntu
[11:19] <nixternal> haha, my old laptop, the powered by kubuntu sticker I made was the only thing to survive its fiery death
[11:20] <nixternal> back to the pool I go
[11:22] <jjesse> must be ncie to have a pool
[11:22] <jjesse> dang tigers are losing today big time