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dianne_!winmodem12:15
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto12:15
brendonRay-: Hold on... typing for you12:15
Ray-brendon: okey Thank you.12:15
intelikeyRay- that's what he's telling you.  in konsole type; man interfaces   and it will explain how the interfaces file works.12:15
intelikeyand to be patient12:16
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jhutchins_ltWell, time to go feed the horses.12:16
Ray-hmm12:17
intelikeyhay12:17
sweettoothhey does anyone know how to stop particular program from launching at startup?12:17
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intelikeysweettooth kcontrol for things that kde starts maybe ?   and ~/.kde/Autostart    also  update-rc.d  for things that upstart starts          is that right ?12:18
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brendonRay-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27874/12:19
intelikeyi'm not versed in upstart.   only sysV12:19
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Ray-brendon: okey thank you12:20
Ray-I have to restart the X right?12:20
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brendonI assume we are talking wired here?12:20
sweettoothintelikey, im trying to stop my postgresql server from loading12:20
brendonNOOOOOO, no restart X12:20
Ray-okey12:20
Ray-Thanks12:20
brendonX is a window manager12:20
brendonnot a network anything.12:20
Ray-hummm12:20
Ray-okey12:20
Ray-thank you12:21
PrestwickClose one there Brendon.12:21
sweettoothintelikey, where is update-rc.d anyway?12:21
Ray-hope it will work12:21
brendonWhat you want is sudo ifdown eth0 (or whatever)12:21
brendonand then sudo ifup eth012:21
Ray-what?12:21
Ray-ohh12:21
Ray-okey12:21
brendonwhat what?  more words please12:21
Ray-rebooting12:22
brendonGood luck12:22
intelikeysweettooth should be in the path.  it's a cli app12:22
brendonsweettooth: which update-rc.d says /usr/sbin/upda...12:22
sweettoothic12:23
sweettoothhmm, i will have a go and restart, see if it is disabled or not12:24
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brendonwhats with all the rebooting?  This isn't windows, you know!12:25
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grahamHey, I want to join this Linux machine to a Windows domain so members of that domain can login, how can I do that?12:26
intelikey!ssh12:27
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/12:27
intelikey!samba12:27
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:27
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intelikeymore info that one wants is readily avalable12:27
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intelikey!vnc12:28
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:28
intelikey!freeNX12:28
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX12:28
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PrestwickHmm, will the next Kubuntu have KDE 4?12:29
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brendonProbably12:29
Prestwickwoo12:30
sweettoothhmm, postgresql doesn't seem to be in the path12:30
brendonBut, you can get it now if you want!12:30
PrestwickWOO12:30
intelikeyPrestwick not as default.  but avalable  most likely12:30
mike-kubuntufor some reason the wrong nvidia kernel module is getting loaded since my update to the 96** drivers, when my kernel fist loads up it loads the 76** drivers and x wont start because nvidia glx is 96**, however, if i do an rmmod nvidia, then modprobe nvidia, the correct drivers get loaded, i've tried using module-assistant to recompile the drivers by hand and it still loads the old drivers, i have the version of nvidia-kernel-12:30
sweettoothhow does one use update.rc-d to check what apps will be loaded on startup?12:30
brendonsweettooth: I just go to the rc*.d directory and look12:30
intelikeymike-kubuntu the initramfs been regenerated with the wrong driver ?12:31
brendontype "runlevel" to find which rc?.d to look at12:31
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intelikeysweettooth man update-rc.d12:31
mike-kubuntuintelikey, maybe, do you know how to fix it12:31
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brendonelse type "man update-rc.d12:31
sweettoothoh haha, yes indeed, i have long been suspecting its there12:32
sweettoothsaw it in rc0.d12:32
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intelikeymike-kubuntu make a new one ?12:32
intelikeybrendon every one in *ubuntu is in runlevel 212:32
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brendonI didn't want to assume12:33
brendonsweettooth: links that start with 'K' kill the thing, 'S' starts12:33
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mike-kubuntuintelikey: never done that before, can you pint me to a guide?12:33
sweettoothrc2.d indeed12:33
brendonrc0.d is "shutdown runlevel12:33
brendonrc6.d is "reboot"12:33
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sweettoothany links to rc level guides?12:34
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brendonsince we are at rc2, I assume rc1 is single user?12:34
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rixonEver since I modprobed bcm43xx, knetworkmanager seems to have problems keeping a stable wired connection12:34
brendonsweettooth: google.  But since it is a convention, different distros use different levels.12:35
intelikeymike-kubuntu i'm not sure there is a good one.    man mkinitramfs    for the man page.     the final command will be something like   sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` `uname -r`     but you will probably need to tweek the config in /etc/mkinitramfs/  first...12:35
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rixonAlready established connections are kept alive but new ones fail to syncronize. May be some problem with default device?12:35
brendonlike rc2 == multi-user no window manager :)12:35
intelikeymike-kubuntu also of note blacklisting the bad driver might help.12:36
rixonShouldn't networkmanager use only one device at a time?12:36
brendonsweettooth: look in inittab12:36
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Ray-didnt ring my bell ...12:36
brendonRay-: welcome back12:37
Ray-Thanks12:37
intelikeymike see   /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common   on that.12:37
brendonhow did it go?12:37
Ray-I wonder maybe the kubuntu didnt see my builtin network card?12:37
Ray-I will show12:37
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brendonI doubt that, unless it's wireless12:37
intelikey!wifi12:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:37
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TheGateKeeper!vi12:38
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code12:38
Ray-brendon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27879/12:38
Arwenubotu failed to mention ed o.O12:39
brendonI didn't see in ifup command?12:39
brendonyou turned off the interface twice!12:39
brendonifup should give you no error, then you can try ping12:40
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Ray-I did ifup12:40
prestwickAnyone got the link to the beryl/XGL howto?12:40
brendonnot in the paste!12:40
brendonubotu: add "Cream"12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about add "cream" - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
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prestwick!beryl12:41
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects12:41
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prestwickah hah12:41
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Ray-brendon: I will reboot?12:41
brendonIt should bring up the interface now.12:41
brendonUnless you configured the wrong eth??12:41
Ray-brendon: I got only one network card12:42
Ray-and I show you the ifconfig12:42
brendonthen it should be eth012:42
Ray-and you did the interfaces12:42
Ray-I tried to ping but it didnt work :<12:42
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brendonwhat did ifconfig show after the interfaces changes?12:43
mike-kubuntuintelikey: thanks, I'll go try a few things12:43
Ray-the same12:43
Ray-no new IP12:43
brendonOk, that is wrong12:44
Ray-whats the wrong12:44
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brendonBTW, to restart all networking, instead of restarting X, use sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart12:44
brendonI was just typing in frustration for you.  It is wrong that is doesn't work after you config'd it12:45
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brendondid you look at the man pages for interfaces?12:46
brendonand ifconfig?12:46
keatonBig big big problem. My Xserver just went up in smoke.12:46
gemidjy_I don't have auto-competion on commands :/12:46
keatonSome one PLEASE help me.12:46
gemidjy_i.e. apt-get install fire<TAB>12:46
Ray-brendon: I did change the interfaces and you did typed it I saved it12:47
Ray-should I give up?12:47
passe.g*12:47
brendonNo don't give up.12:47
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ArwenNEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER!12:47
brendonYou are close.12:48
Ray-then there is a bug in my kubuntu? where to kill it heh12:48
brendonNo, you probably have a tiny mistake in either your config files or your procedures12:48
Ray-hmm12:49
Ray-why it wont work when I change it in the graphic mode ..12:49
Ray-it says invalid gateway ip12:49
brendonI like using the command line tools, cause they give more info.12:50
brendonifup and ifdown (man ifup) have options to force changes and to be verbose12:50
Ray-okey, is there a way to add this IP as interface add thingie so I can at least join here from the kubuntu12:50
brendonI take it you are setting the gateway the same as what XP is using.12:50
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Ray-yeah12:51
Ray-XP works fine, why kubuntu aint12:51
brendonKubuntu isn't working because you have not got the config quite right.12:51
brendonHere is what I'd do.12:52
Schuenemann!subtitle12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subtitle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
Schuenemann!subtitles12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subtitles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
keatonOkay, I REALLY need some help from you guys. My Xserver just stopped working after I updated my restricted kernel headers, or something like that. It came up in Adept updater, and I ran it without thinking about it (in hindsight a terrible idea.) Now my nvidia drivers appear to have stopped working entirely, and the installer can't compile a kernel interface when I try to run the installer. Can someone PLEASE give me some tiny smidgen12:52
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brendonGo into kubuntu, with a list of hte commands we have mentioned.12:53
gemidjy_I don't have auto-competion on commands :/ i.e. apt-get install fire<TAB>12:53
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brendonUse ifup and ifdown with -v and look for messages that look like errors.12:53
HymnToLifekeaton, install the headers for your kernel, and remove the restricted modules12:53
Ray-brendon: okey12:54
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brendondouble check that the interfaces file matches what the interfaces man page says.12:54
keatonHymnToLife: can you give me specific commands for that? I don't remember the package names.12:54
Ray-brendon: that was the default interfaces12:54
brendonand check that ifconfig shows that the interface has gone down/up etc.12:55
purpleposeidonhappy gplv3day! :D12:55
brendon"default interfaces"?12:55
Arwen.......12:55
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Ray-I mean, I did install kubuntu and it was like that12:55
HymnToLifekeaton, sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted* && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:55
brendonRay-: Ok.  no harm in changing it, especially since it doesn't work anyway.12:56
brendonHold on, let me double check what I pasted to you12:56
Ray-okey12:56
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Schuenemannisn't there a decent subtitle manage for linux? One that I don't have to type the times manually?12:57
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ArwenSchuenemann, explain. What do you mean by "subtitle manage"?12:57
keatonHymnToLife: alright, I'll try running this. brb.12:57
brendonIt looks OK.  I'd also comment out eth1 on down (# at the start of the line) since you don't have those12:58
Schuenemannmanager* yeah, srt files, not "real" subtitles12:58
needtoknowMy sound doesnt work12:58
Ray-brendon: okey12:58
Ray-brb12:58
ArwenSchuenemann, eh... real as in ASS? or real as in hard sub?12:58
Arwenyou could try aegisub or just plain old subrip12:58
needtoknowRealteak something or other12:59
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SchuenemannI want to create a text file and then merge it to the video with mencoder12:59
keatonHymnToLife: The command went though alright, I'm going to try running the driver installer again.12:59
SchuenemannArwen, is aegisub for that?12:59
brendonI did make one tiny mistake.  The "network" should have been "netmask"12:59
brendonooops12:59
ArwenSchuenemann, eh... you can't merge text files with mencoder afaik12:59
Schuenemannyou can, I just did it yesterdau12:59
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Schuenemannyesterday*12:59
Arwenbut yeah, aeigsub is for editing subtitles, any kind.12:59
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Ray-brendon: just a question12:59
Ray-eth0:avah Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:D1:43:61:E601:00
Arwensrt files are best written in a text editor though01:00
Ray-what is the avah, does that ring a bell ?01:00
Schuenemann"mencoder hissyfit.avi -sub hissyfit.srt -o hissyfit_subbed.avi -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4" was the command01:00
Arwenok01:00
Arwennever mind (subtitles in AVI = fail)01:00
needtoknowTry using vlc, select movie, select subtittles01:00
needtoknowbingo01:00
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needtoknowworked for me01:00
Arwenneedtoknow, ....no, he wants it *in the file*01:00
needtoknowwhen all else failed01:00
Arwenbecause having seperate subtitles fails01:01
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Schuenemanndo you have to type the times for the subtitles in aegisub? I would like something better, like watching the video and clicking the exact times for start and end01:01
needtoknow*ohh* (thats going to be hard)01:01
brendonRay-: That is an autoconfig address thing01:01
ArwenSchuenemann, honestly, you should learn a lesson from the anime freaks. Matroska is one of the better containers to embed subtitles in since you can attach fonts too01:01
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ArwenSchuenemann, uh, yes, I think you can seek graphically01:01
Schuenemannman, I'll send the video to youtube01:01
Ray-hmm okey brb01:01
Arwenlol, youtube won't accept softsubs01:02
BluDog_Anchoritecan anyone recomend a linux app to create barcodes out of plain text strings ?01:02
Arwenyou'll have to burn them in01:02
brendonRay-: It gets stuck in there for interfaces that are not correctly configured01:02
ArwenBluDog_Anchorite, eh...01:02
Schuenemannwasn't that what I wanted? I even told you the command01:02
Arwenoh, never mind, lol01:02
Arwen(aegisub it is)01:02
Schuenemannhmm, not in my repositories =(01:03
BluDog_Anchoritea program i put in "dart gun" and it gives me a barcode of that01:03
ArwenSchuenemann, I'll fetch a link01:03
Schuenemannthanks01:03
Arwenhttp://www.malakith.net/aegiwiki/Main_Page01:03
Arwenbut it's probably overkill if SRT is all you need01:04
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Schuenemanncompilation from source? My worst nightmare :-)01:04
Arwenhmm ,yeah, does look like overkill...01:05
Arwenkate it is then? :-P01:05
Schuenemannthe problem is having to type/choose the times manually01:05
Arwenye01:05
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Schuenemannit is a pain to have it synchronously01:05
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MinatakuBluDog_Anchorite: Does kbarcode still exist?01:08
MinatakuI believe there's a CLI app that does it, which kbarcode is a frontend for01:08
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brendonSchuenemann: compile from code ==> text adventure game!01:08
ed1tdoes NetworkManager work with KDE?01:08
Schuenemannbrendon, sorry, I didn't get it01:09
brendonSchuenemann: you said your worst nightmare, but it is really just an adventure game01:09
sparrhow can i avoid clamav upgrade warnings in my cron output?  without updating clamav more often than packaging allows01:09
Schuenemannbrendon, a very boring adventure, in my opinion01:10
Schuenemannhehe01:10
brendonAnd a long one01:10
brendonhehe01:10
Schuenemannit should be called a challenge: try to get to the end of this without getting mad and breaking everything01:10
brendonyes!01:11
Arwenhmm, aegisub's build instructions look really complicated o.O01:11
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SchuenemannI felt the same when I knew I had to compile01:12
nathanHI again, I try to run KDETV, however when i load it gives me following message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27884/ can anyone help?01:12
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brendoneverybody left?01:18
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nathanlooks like it brendon.. heh01:22
prestwickHey guys, I've lost sound and the following error "device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)" keeps popping up randomly.01:22
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nathanalthrough it looks lke i'll like linux... its a bloody pain to get started01:22
brendonprestwick: no, not a sound problem... Yesterday I invested 14 hours getting my sound back01:22
cwo4mannwhos an expert on figureing out which usb port is which??01:23
cwo4mannBus 001 Device 003: ID 09ae:0001 Tripp Lite01:23
cwo4mannthe startup script want to know if this is "/dev/ttyS0? or sometheing else ... and I have tried all kinds of combinations without success01:23
prestwickBrendon: ah, what kind of problem is it?01:23
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cwo4mann its the backup UPS device01:23
brendonMine was that I'd disabled the MODEM in BIOS01:23
cwo4mannsorry brendon and prest ... i interrupted .. didn't see your query first ... apologies01:24
prestwickOh, well, I had sound before, then did a software upgrade and now its gone01:24
brendoncwo4mann: no probelm.  This is "multithreaded" for extra confusion01:24
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prestwickNo probs CWO01:24
brendonHey Ray- is back!01:25
Ray-brendon: there were a mistake, the netmask you set it as network01:25
Ray-now the ping is working :)01:25
Ray-but I still have a problem01:25
brendonSorry, my bad.01:25
Ray-the dns01:25
Ray-it is not resolving the hostnames01:25
brendonYou didn't ask about DNS.  that is a completely different file LOL01:26
Ray-yeah I know the internet worked I ping on IP's it work but when I open yahoo.com it save uknown host name01:26
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brendonyou'd be wanting /etc/resolv.conf01:26
Ray-aha01:27
brendondhcp sets that up automatically, now you need to do it manually01:27
brendonyou need a "nameserver x.x.x.x" entry in resolve.conf01:27
Ray-I logged into the router I saw primary dns 2.2.2.10 and 2ndery 4.5.6.701:27
Ray-those what I should use?01:28
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Ray-I will try to login on the kubuntu at freenode IP01:28
brendonYes, add both.  Linux can use a whole bunch01:28
Ray-so we can handle it from there01:28
Ray-BRB01:28
brendonI'm using Konversation under Kubuntu for irc01:28
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cwo4mannso, ne1 can tell me how to discover which /dev/tty or /dev/usb I will need to plug into the script??01:29
brendoncwo4mann: I'm not sure.  that new fangled usb stuff makes me nervous01:30
brendonWhich script?01:30
brendonWhat are you trying to set up?01:30
cwo4mannwell I know, and I really don't have a clue as to how to translate the lsusb command output into an actual device01:30
cwo4mannwell, the ups script01:30
cwo4mannfor the ups (tripplite) has a usb cable so the system can keep track of power ups and down01:31
cwo4mannthe script has an empty spot where I am supposed to plug in which usb port my system allocates for that particular ups unit.01:31
Daisuke_Idoso very lovely.  amarok is still not woeking :\01:31
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Daisuke_Idoremove, purge, and reinstall.01:32
cwo4mannI did an lsusb and it returned  Bus 001 Device 003: ID 09ae:0001 Tripp Lite ...01:32
brendonI'm looking to see if I can figure it out01:32
MinatakuUgh... from Windows to Mac... if that's not a prime example of "Out of the frying pan and into the fire" nothing is01:32
cwo4mannhey Daisuke ... I had a tought time with amarok and finally did the install over again trick.  It turned outxmms (the engine) wasn't all there01:33
MinatakuThat's the kind of thing that literally dooms our digital world01:33
cwo4mannamarok would partially run, but no music....01:33
cwo4mannso i found out by trial and error that it was all xmms's fault :-)01:33
cwo4mannbut I switched to kaffeine and it is problem free01:34
Daisuke_Idoum, it was working perfectly until i upgraded to 1.4.601:34
Daisuke_Idoso i figured i'd give it a shot.01:34
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cwo4mannoh crap ... the old "upgrade" problem.  I know that is what happened to me with fedora 6 to 7 and caused me to get rid of fedora and switch to kbuntu01:35
Daisuke_Idoit worked!01:35
Daisuke_Idoawesome.01:35
cwo4mannanyway, anyone figure out how to do this usb port thing yet?????01:35
Daisuke_Idoapparently something in the old settings didn't agree with the new version01:35
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cwo4manncwo4mann bows01:35
brendoncwo4mann: not yet01:35
Daisuke_Idoodd, but it works, so i don't particularly care :D01:35
cwo4mannah so desuka.  Joto, Ne?01:36
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Daisuke_Ido?01:36
ArwenNO MORE FAKE JAP TALK01:36
nathanne 1 got spare time on their hands?01:36
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cwo4mannthat was and english translation of Japanese -- means "oh that's it then ... good!"01:36
ArwenI believe he tried to say "I see. What now?"01:36
Daisuke_Idonathan: i think i've got some saved up in this ancient dagger01:36
Arwencwo4mann, get out of here, otaku freak01:37
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cwo4mannhey, first of all don't use the word "Jap" and second it is not fake.  I was stationed in Japan with the military and think very highly of the Japanese people,01:37
cwo4manngot that?01:37
nathandaisuke the ancient dagger wouldn't have the wisdom of getting KDE TV to work would it lol01:37
Arwen...01:37
Arwenhint: this is a *English* channel01:38
Daisuke_Idonathan: doubtful.01:38
nathanlol think im a bit stuck with this one01:38
Daisuke_Idobut if you impale yourself in a pit of spikes, you can rewind time and try again!01:38
nathanlol01:38
brendoncwo4mann: Have you poked around in /dev/bus/usb?01:38
nathanill show ya message anyway, see if you recognise, or may know who can advise01:38
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cwo4mannyes, i looked at some of the devices .. do you mean go to /dev and then look at the properties of each one??01:39
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nathanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27884/ - take a look at that, comes in a popup box when i load kdetv01:39
brendondude, I'm trying to help01:39
Ray---brendon: I'm using the kubuntu now01:39
Ray---so what to do to fix the dns resolver?01:40
brendonEasy, wasn't it... after you stopped taking my post literally :)01:40
darksoul_how do i unmount ntfs disks?01:40
Arwendarksoul_, same as any other. umount device01:40
brendoncwo4mann: lsusb shows the device.01:41
brendoncwo4mann: for me it is on bus 004 Device 00401:41
brendoncwo4mann: so I go to /dev/bus/usb/00401:41
darksoul_hmmm01:41
draikklobster: I'm trying realvnc and that doesn't seem to work for me01:41
brendoncwo4mann: and in that, is the 004 device.  Which shoulod be it01:42
draikBRB01:42
brendonRay---: What are you trying to do with resolve?01:42
darksoul_!ntfs01:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:42
Ray---brendon: I told you the dns is not resolving01:42
brendonStill?  I though it was fixed01:42
Ray---If I connect to IP then it works but on hostname it does not01:43
brendonSince you are still in Kubuntu, this should be easy!01:43
nathanargh so fustrating that i only got 1 piece of hardware to work so far... that took 3 hours to figure01:43
cwo4manni'm looking at the devices properties and found the answer ... thanks!  Or should I say "Domo Arigato"; or how about Kam-si-Hamnida" (Korean) or maybe Cup-kun-mak, Cop (Thai) ..or Spaciba (Russian), or Gracias (Spanish) or Merci! (French), or .... well, you get my point Arwen dear .. this is an International group, Ubuntu is a World-Users Linux and yes, I know there are other language channels.  And now I am saying goodby01:43
cwo4mann"Areviderchi" (Italian).  CIao!01:43
darksoul_Arwen i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions01:43
Arwen....freak01:43
darksoul_to mount01:43
darksoul_now i reformated my windows disk and01:43
Arwendarksoul_, you just asked me how to unmount a device... I told you... is there a real question that you want to ask?01:44
darksoul_i cannot log windows from boot list...01:44
brendonRay---: What is in your resolve.conf?01:44
darksoul_dahh nvm i found it01:44
Ray---brendon: where is this resolve.conf ?01:44
draik!ssh01:45
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hitmanWillyok, ive decided to sit down and really learn how to code C/C++. Any one know of a good resource for that?01:45
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brendonRay-Kubuntu: This you?  its in /etc01:46
nathananyone know what the default television standard is in the UK?01:46
brendonPAL01:46
ArwenPAL iirc01:46
hitmanWillynathan: probably PAL01:46
david__hols01:46
nathanty01:46
Arwenonly US and Japan use NTSC01:47
david__alguien abla spanish01:47
brendonUS and Japan NTSC are not identical01:47
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hitmanWilly!es | Clash01:47
ubotuClash: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:47
Ray-Kubuntubrendon: there is no resolve.conf there is a directory called resolvconf01:47
Clashthenks01:47
abattoir_hitmanWilly: kinda off-topic for this channel, but http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ should get you started :)01:47
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brendonRay-Kubuntu: you should have one!  That would be the problem.01:48
draikI'm not sure what I am looking for, but I want to connect from my Feisty to my fiance's winxp with a GUI. Any hints?01:48
hitmanWillyabattoir: thanks, and yes I realize that was grossly off-topic :)01:48
brendonRay-Kubuntu: And double check it is called resolv.conf01:48
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brendonRay-Kubuntu: do you know vi?01:49
Ray-Kubuntubrendon: I got resolvconf/update-libc.d/avahi-daemon01:49
Ray-Kubuntuvi? whats that ?01:49
abattoirhitmanWilly: nothing big, way more off-topic stuff is discussed sometimes :)01:49
brendonRay-Kubuntu: vi is a text editor01:49
Ray-KubuntuI know pico and nano01:49
abattoirhitmanWilly: googling should also help you out01:49
hitmanWillyabattoir: i know, im in here doing pro-bono tech support all the time :P01:50
brendonRay-Kubuntu: in a console, type "man resolv.conf" and it'll tell you all about it01:50
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hitmanWillyabattoir: im fairly fluent in bash and a little in python, figured I might as well go all the way :)01:51
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Ray-Kubuntubrendon: okey but I'm sure I dont have the resolve.conf, why? I just installed the kubuntu no one rm anything01:51
brendonDon't worry, we can fix it in a moment.01:52
brendonsudo touch resolv.conf01:52
abattoirhitmanWilly: good luck :)01:52
hitmanWillyabattoir: thanx01:52
brendonand you will have one!01:52
brendonthen use the editor of your choice to stick in a nameserver x.x.x.x line01:53
brendoncheck the file is owned by root with rw-r--r-- permissions01:53
brendonOk?01:53
draik!remote access01:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote access - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:55
Ray-Kubuntubrendon: I did sudo touch resolve.conf and I typed the password but nothing happend01:55
draik!remote entry01:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote entry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:55
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Ray-KubuntuI mean I still dont have the resolve.conf01:55
Ray-Kubuntuthere is host.conf01:55
nathanomg woo01:55
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nathana little ibt of success01:55
hitmanWillydraik: welcome back :)01:55
nathani have Sky on my PC... except it has no sound and a nasty pink line at the bottom of the screen01:55
brendonRay-Kubuntu: what directory were you in when you did the touch?01:55
draikhitmanWilly: Hey there :)01:55
nathanbut its found sky :D01:55
Ray-Kubuntuin the etc01:55
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draikhitmanWilly: Still no luck with trying to access fiance's computer01:56
brendonRay-Kubuntu: and you want resolv.conf NOT resolve.conf01:56
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brendonWhat I would do is: in /etc/ type 'vi resolv.conf'01:56
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hitmanWillybrendon: nano might be easier for him01:57
brendonOk01:57
brendonuse nano01:57
Ray-KubuntuI did pico01:57
Ray-Kubuntuits, can you paste an example to edit?01:57
brendonOk, do you have the file with the nameserver line?01:58
Ray-Kubuntuthe file is empty01:58
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hitmanWillyresolv.conf...DNS issues?01:58
Ray-KubuntuhitmanWilly: yeah :/01:58
brendonexample: nameserver 111.111.111.11101:58
hitmanWillyRay-Kubuntu: try this: sudo echo nameserver 24.159.64.20 >> /etc/resolv.conf01:59
brendonwith your name server instead of 11101:59
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stdinhitmanWilly: that won't work01:59
brendonhitmanWilly: there are many ways to skin this cat01:59
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Ray-Kubuntubrendon: okey01:59
Minatakubrendon: Aieeee02:00
MinatakuDon't use that saying02:00
MinatakuXD02:00
hitmanWillystdin: why not? kubuntu specific stuff?02:00
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hitmanWillystdin: or am i missing something stupid here...02:00
stdinhitmanWilly: no, it's just that bash does the redirect, and bash is running with the users uid02:00
brendonhitmanWilly: at a guess echo will run chroot and the concat wont02:00
hitmanWillyoh, yeah, use su over here :(02:01
brendonRay-Kubuntu: do you have a good resolv.conf now?02:01
stdinhitmanWilly: echo <something> | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf02:01
Ray-Kubuntuit seems it workes :D02:01
Ray-Kubuntulet me try again :)02:01
brendonRay-Kubuntu: and you can add your secondary nameserver also02:01
hitmanWillystdin: long way around...02:01
brendonvi, the quick way02:01
stdinhitmanWilly: yeah, but it works :)02:01
hitmanWillystdin: sorry, don't even have myself in the sudoers group anymore02:02
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hitmanWillystdin: always seemed like a gaping security hole to me02:03
brendonMinataku: sorry02:03
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stdinhitmanWilly: hmm, lets not start the whole "sudo vs. su/root" thing, it's far to late here :p02:03
brendonhitmanWilly: sudoers should lock users down to SAFE commands.  not anything like hte default02:03
hitmanWillystdin: wasn't trying to start a flamewar, apologies :)02:03
Arwenbrendon, uh.... there needs to be a user that can do *all* commands or your box is fundamentally b0rk3d02:04
hitmanWillyArwen: that's what a REAL root acct is for02:04
stdinhitmanWilly: I could "feel" one developing, and it's just a headache when they start02:04
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Arwen...02:04
brendonArwen: agreed, it should be a special user02:04
hitmanWillysorry02:04
raphael_you know about www.linuxget.com.br ?02:04
Minatakusudo, even set to full, cannot do EVERYTHING02:05
brendonArwen: otherwise anybody who compromises my user, ownes the box02:05
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Arwenbrendon, anyone that compromises your box with a root user already owns your box...02:05
stdinhitmanWilly: not your fault, my philosophise is "your box, your rules"02:05
Ray-Kubuntubrendon: thank you so much02:05
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prestwickhah!02:05
Ray-Kubuntuyou made my day02:05
Minatakusudo cannot set kernel runtime parameters, for example02:05
MinatakuActual root access is required for that02:06
Arwen...02:06
brendonArwen: I don't understand what you said.  if you compromixe user X, you DO not have root access02:06
ArwenMinataku, that's why there's sudo -i/su02:06
MinatakuArwen: Right, I'm just stating an observation02:06
Arwenbrendon, having a root user to compromise isn't any more vulnerable than having X sudoer to compromise02:06
brendonRay-Kubuntu: you're welcome02:06
Arwenor any less for that matter02:06
MinatakuThat there are fundamental flaws to sudo02:06
Arwenbut let's drop it02:06
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hitmanWillystdin: im not even going to talk about my first couple months using nix, I didn't even use a normal user acct...didn't know any better at the time02:06
brendonArwen: that is why X user can only sudoer a limited set of commands02:07
MinatakuI always did >.>02:07
MinatakuBut then I was told before starting02:07
brendonArwen: not including su, shells, etc02:07
Arwenbrendon, ....02:07
stdinhitmanWilly: it's the windows way, where you need admin to do /anything/02:07
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Minatakustdin: Indeed02:07
MinatakuThere's no possible way to make a proper sub-admin user on a Windows machine02:08
MinatakuSomething will ALWAYS be broken02:08
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hitmanWillythe headfirst approach :)02:08
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MinatakuhitmanWilly: Head first into brick wall, more accurately02:08
MinatakuXD02:08
brendonArwen: which is why services run in chroot under thier own users, etc02:08
Ray-Kubuntubrendon: other newbie question is there any other messenger I can install (I dont like this kopete)02:08
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stdin!IM02:09
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:09
brendonOh, I liked it!  There must be dozens02:09
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hitmanWillygot a debian install up and running, after much swearing and head-banging (back in 99)02:09
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hitmanWillyzero idea what i was doing at the time...but figured it out eventually02:11
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stdinthat's the best way to learn02:12
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MinatakuHeehee02:13
MinatakuI was thinking of doing something like that02:13
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hitmanWillylibraries seem to be the best02:13
brendonArwen: I missed you "drop it".  I was actaully interested in what you were saying...02:13
Ray-Kubuntubrendon: do you recomand any?:)02:13
tntcodaHi, anyone know how to stop ubuntus automounting service placing icons on the desktop to mounted volumes?02:13
Ray-Kubuntuamsn workes in here too ?02:14
brendonRay-Kubuntu: too much of a personal thing.  I'm using kopete, but you don't like it!02:14
Ray-Kubuntuokey thanks anyway02:15
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MinatakuAw, nuts02:18
MinatakuQEMU segfaulted02:18
level1whats a good program for web design?02:21
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nosrednaekimnvu02:22
nosrednaekimMinataku: KVM still won't work here02:22
Minataku?02:23
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Minataku!info kvm02:25
ubotukvm: Full virtualization on x86 hardware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 474 kB, installed size 1440 kB02:25
MinatakuOh, what is this now02:25
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MinatakuAh02:30
MinatakuIt works in VMWare02:30
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stdinwoo02:31
stdinopps, paste errors02:32
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Mr_Sonomahow likely is it that during a power supply failure that something got corrupted in my system.....causing apt-get faults??02:34
osirisok, back to my earlier question02:34
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osirisdoes ANYONE know of a barcode generator app02:34
stdin!info kbarcode | osiris02:35
ubotuosiris: kbarcode: barcode and label printing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.5-1 (feisty), package size 511 kB, installed size 2056 kB02:35
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MinatakuMr_Sonoma: Somewhat likely02:38
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brendonMr_Sonoma: Notvery likely02:40
Minatakubrendon: The likelihood is higher than that02:41
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MinatakuEspecially if he was doing something at the time of the power failure02:41
Minatakufsck can fix only so much02:41
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stdindepends on the error apt-get spits out then02:41
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brendonOnly if apt-get was changing the db at exactly that moment02:42
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MinatakuWell, somewhat is just one step up from not very XD02:43
MinatakuIt's still pretty low02:43
MinatakuBut circumstances like a power failure do have the potential to cause weirdo problems02:44
brendonAgreed.  If he gave us the error, we may be able to help instead of comparing superlatives02:44
stdinnot that it's not fun to compair superlatives02:44
MinatakuHeehee02:45
MinatakuI don't think he cares that much02:45
MinatakuHe asked 11 minutes ago :P02:45
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brendonBut I've work to avoid doing!02:45
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MinatakuHaha02:46
MinatakuI'm doing that by playing with Novell NetWare 602:46
stdinit's times like then when I find myself thinking "maybe I should learn c++"02:47
draikklobster: What am I doing wrong when using realvnc?02:47
draikhitmanWilly: Have you ever tried to access a winxp box from K/Ubuntu?02:47
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darkrift411how do i check what is using all my ram (not virtual mem)02:48
darkrift411i have 3mb left out of 1g02:48
darkrift411and it gets that way right after a reboto02:48
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: doesn't top show it?02:48
hitmanWillydraik: not for a long time, and then only a samba share02:49
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: its caching.02:49
draikdarkrift411: There's an app called PS3. Does that for you, graphically. Sorry, don't recall the link.02:49
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draikhitmanWilly: Thanks. I'm at a loss at accessing my fiance's computer02:50
stdindarkrift411: run "free -om" to see how much is used as chche02:50
darkrift411i have mirc, ktorrent and nor xchat running, but my memory is always maxed out02:50
hitmanWillydraik: its not the kubuntu side that's the problem i guarantee :)02:50
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draikhitmanWilly: Never crossed my mind02:50
darkrift411cached 334mb02:50
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darkrift41115mb free :(02:50
darkrift411things just seem to lag02:51
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darkrift411also, i notice when i close lots of apps, they dont get unloaded from memory02:51
darkrift411ctrl+esc still shows them02:51
hitmanWillydarkrift411: don't count cached mem as used, it gets freed up as needed02:51
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underdog5004darkrift411,  how much ram do you have?02:51
darkrift411sometimes ill have 10 media players, or 15 konquerors open (with none visible cause i closed them)02:51
darkrift4111g02:51
underdog5004whoa...and you're getting lag?02:52
darkrift411lol02:52
darkrift411yes02:52
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: is it possible to kill these procresses?02:52
stdindarkrift411: you can try "ps aux|sort -rk 4,4|head" to see the top 10 memory hogs02:52
darkrift411yes02:52
darkrift411i kill them and they are gone02:52
darkrift411till i run them again and close em02:52
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nosrednaekimdarkrift411: interesting...02:53
darkrift411wow02:53
darkrift411is it bad that kopete is the 2nd form the top?02:53
darkrift411from*02:53
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darkrift411i wouldnt think an im program would use that much02:53
underdog5004 weird...I've got a gig, with a VM open, xmms, xchat, firefox with one tab open, and two rxvt (terminal emulators), and my mem looks like this: Used: 966 Cache: 645 Free: 33302:53
stdindepends on how much mem it's actally using02:53
hitmanWillymemory leak?02:54
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stdinFF leaks mem so bad when it's left open02:54
darkrift411right now, i have xchat, ktorrent, terminal, mirc and kate open02:54
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nosrednaekim1 gig with tons of apps running with beryl and XGL only using 400MB02:54
vzduchdarkrift411: mIRC? o002:54
darkrift411runnign beryl and superkaramba02:54
darkrift411thats about it02:54
darkrift411yes02:54
underdog5004oh yeah, beryl here too, and super karamba02:54
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: superkaramba...02:54
darkrift411cant live without my mirc02:54
vzduchdarkrift411: what for?02:54
darkrift411too many scripts ive written02:55
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: try killing that02:55
darkrift411and dont know other langs yet02:55
darkrift411mirc averages 12% mem used02:55
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: although that doesn't solve your zombie process thing02:55
darkrift411spikes at 15%02:55
darkrift411so thats not too bad02:55
darkrift411something else has to be using more02:55
stdinFF was using 100MB of ram from 2 hour usage, ugh02:56
stdinnot even flash or java either02:56
rohoFF the encoder?02:56
darkrift411lol02:56
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darkrift411my ff uses 250mb(ish) after 2 minutes02:56
stdinno FF = FireFox02:56
darkrift411but i close it when im done02:56
rohoFirefox = fx, holmes02:56
rohoyeah, represent02:56
stdinI was just viewing plain HTML pages tho, no JS/Java/Flash02:57
vzduchI try not to use Firefox, if possible.. haven't got it installed atm02:57
draikSpeaking of RAM... I have 4GB but for some reason, it only registers 3GB.02:58
darkrift411thats the only browser i like on linux02:58
nosrednaekim5% here02:58
draikBad bank or RAM?02:58
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stdindraik: that's because a 32bit kernel can't use 402:58
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stdindraik: that's why the jump to 64bit was made02:58
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brendonI think people get confused about memory usage...02:59
draikstdin: :( And I built my computer 3 years ago with the motherboard specs of "max 4gb ram"02:59
brendonwhat with cache, shared memory, etc, etc.02:59
stdindraik: there is a difference between what the hardware can handle and what the software can use03:00
hitmanWillydraik: windows won't address it either, its a 32 processor issue03:00
draikstdin: That there is. Sorry for the ignorance.03:00
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stdindraik: it's ok, not many people realise that 32bit limits ram at <4GB03:01
underdog5004lol, I don't think my mobo even supports 4Gb03:02
underdog5004of RAM, that is03:02
draikstdin: Well, as long as I don't have a bad mobo, bank or stick of RAM03:02
vzduchin the light of what was just said.. I ask myself: would it be a good idea to run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit processor? (at least as long as not all functionality commonly expected from a computer system is implemented in 64-bit OSes)03:03
stdinvzduch: yeah, a lot of people do it03:03
brendonNot sure why?03:04
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vzduchbrendon: not sure why what?03:05
stdinwell, some apps aren't ported to 64bit yet, and some things (like flash/java) don't work in 64bit03:05
nosrednaekimvzduch: as long as you don't have 4 gigs of ram... yeah, its fine03:05
nosrednaekimstdin: or are very hard to get working.03:05
stdinyeah03:05
nosrednaekimI did it, but lol.. it was hard03:05
vzduchso it's not entirely a CPU issue.. it's a general 32-bit issue03:06
brendonWhy you'd use a 32bit OS on a 64bit machine03:06
brendonBut you can run 32bit apps under a 64bit OS03:06
stdinyou only really need 64bit of you have 4+GB ram and/or need high precision math running (super computing)03:06
brendonSo flash, java, etc are manageable03:06
stdinbrendon: only with the 32bit libs installed03:06
darkrift411you can?03:07
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stdinand it's not exactly easy03:07
darkrift411i was told 32bit apps wont work on 64b03:07
brendonSo, you install both 64bit and 32bit libs.  Thats what I do03:07
darkrift411ppl in here told me to use 32b os03:07
brendondarkrift411: that is true for WINDOWS03:07
vzduchI'll go to bed.. good night :)03:07
darkrift411heh03:07
darkrift411i asked in here03:07
stdindarkrift411: linux has some workarounds, but for other 64bit OSs you can't03:08
brendonLinux doesn't have that kind of restriction built in03:08
darkrift411if there was a reason not to isntall 64b os03:08
darkrift411someone told me most apps wouldnt work without compiling03:08
stdin /some/ apps won't03:08
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brendonWell, more apps are available as a binary in 32bit land03:08
stdinmost come in the package repositories03:08
brendonso if you want 64bit, then you need to compile03:09
jzilla64bit, in my experince is a headache.03:09
darkrift411and what kind of benefit do i get from 64b os?03:09
darkrift411is it worth it?03:09
hitmanWillydarkrift411: speed03:09
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brendonMuch more speed, with the right hardware03:10
darkrift411i can compile, but basics only03:10
stdindarkrift411: a small speed increase (about 20%)03:10
darkrift411i have a brand new laptop with a turion 64 in it03:10
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darkrift411if someone could help me get my drive issue fixed, id dual boot and try 64 out03:10
brendonAll "our" non laptops are twin CPU opteron machines.03:11
darkrift411i have a windows drive that i need to resize03:11
darkrift411but gparted cant do it03:11
darkrift411its locked03:11
nosrednaekimhitmanWilly: i'm doing it with gutsy03:11
stdindarkrift411: that's another thing about 64bit, if it's not an open-source driver, forget it03:11
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darkrift411gparted cant find the mount point to unmount the partition03:11
brendonstdin: isn't that a problem with linux anyway03:12
darkrift411i have the nvidia 6150 mobile, think id have drive issues?03:12
darkrift411driver*03:12
hitmanWillystdin: the 64 bit nvidia ones seemed to work pretty well03:12
nosrednaekimhitmanWilly: 64 bit is a headache on gentoo?03:12
stdinbrendon: somewhat, but you can get more 32bit drivers than 64bit03:12
nosrednaekimhitmanWilly: thought it was easier there?03:12
darkrift411ok, so who wants to troubleshoot my partition resizing issue with me so i can try 64b :)03:12
hitmanWillynosrednaekim: reinstalling :) that's the headache03:13
stdinbrendon: things like wireless drivers are a headache03:13
nosrednaekimoh..lol03:13
darkrift411oh sh*t03:13
darkrift411forgot about my wifi drivers :s03:13
darkrift411that might be a pain03:13
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: chipset?03:13
darkrift411broadcomm 4300 or 3400 (the hated one)03:13
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: yech03:14
darkrift41103:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)03:14
brendonstdin: I ain't carrying around no twin opteron boxes while they are running!03:14
nosrednaekimbrendon: make it burn your calories for fuel!03:14
nosrednaekimexercise!03:14
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brendonwith a long pawer cable!03:14
brendons/pawer/power/03:15
stdinor a big battery03:15
hitmanWillybrendon: ok, how much juice do those opterons take up? thinking of putting one in my desktop for kicks :)03:15
darkrift411anyone?03:15
brendonif you get the right model... 35watts for the CPU03:15
nosrednaekimbrendon: wow... thats not bad03:15
hitmanWillynot too bad...03:15
nosrednaekimif you get the wrong model....120W03:16
brendonNo, that is why AMD is kicking XEON butt03:16
stdindarkrift411: broadcom are difficult anyway, don't know if it runs well under 64bit03:16
Mr_Sonomaim sorry fellas had to step out03:16
brendonStill, 120W is not too bad, compared to a XEON03:16
Evolution2i just reinstalled windows and my grub was lost. so i tried recovering as but it wouldnt show up when i rebooted. i have kubuntu 7.04 please help i even tried the help page in the forums03:17
stdindarkrift411: it may depend on the exact model/chipset too (not that I would know)03:17
hitmanWillystdin: does ndiswrapper even work at all under 64?03:17
darkrift411ok, so who wants to troubleshoot my partition resizing issue with me so i can try 64b :)03:17
stdinhitmanWilly: don't know, never tried03:17
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hitmanWillyneither have I03:17
brendonIf you get dual opterons, make sure that each CPU has it's own memory slots.03:17
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nosrednaekimEvolution2: still have a liveCD around?03:18
hitmanWillybrendon: nah, my mobo is a single slot 93903:18
level1whats a good web design program?03:18
level1WYSIWYG03:18
hitmanWillylevel1: nvu maybe03:18
brendonlevel1: uggggg03:18
Evolution2nosrednaekim: yes i do03:18
brendonhitmanWilly: thats only a single CPU, yes?03:19
nosrednaekimEvolution2: pop it in and boot it up... you in windows now?03:19
Evolution2nosrednaekim: i tried that grub recover page and i got an error03:19
hitmanWillybrendon: yup03:19
level1brendon: is that really the name or are you joking?03:19
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weerdoevery connection give back this: time out bla bla 1.0.0.003:19
nosrednaekimEvolution2: oh.. what was it?03:19
weerdowhy?03:19
Evolution2nosrednaekim: no iam in an ubuntu live cd right now03:19
cooter?03:19
weerdoon ubuntu 6.1003:19
nosrednaekimEvolution2: ah ok, do you have your ubuntu partition mounted?03:20
brendonlevel1: I was trying to groan.  I have not founbd anything on any OS that works well03:20
brendonhitmanWilly: Then each CPU does have its own memory!! LOL!!!03:20
Evolution2nosrednaekim: yeah i should03:20
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oslohi is there a sort of plugin for konqueror to add it a file transfert manager; i mean if i upload 1.iso to /test/ then 2.iso to /test/; i'd like it put 2.iso at queue ... Do you know something like that for konqueror ?03:20
hitmanWillybrendon: i guess on a technicality :P03:20
prestwickI wish ATI would release a version of fglrx that actually works with the latest version of xorg.03:20
prestwickOslo, you mean an FTP plugin for konqueror.03:21
osloprestwick> i don't03:21
stdinlevel1: amaya is a wysiwyg web designer, never used it tho03:21
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nosrednaekimEvolution2: run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=<where the drive is mounted> /dev/hda"03:21
Ray`what Stalled means?03:21
brendonThe point was that each opteron has its own memory controller, so you get the best performance when they don't have to share03:21
Evolution2nosrednaekim: i dont have hda03:22
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Evolution2i have sda03:22
Evolution2sda6 i think03:22
nosrednaekimok... sorry, change that03:22
Mr_Sonomabrendon when you have a min i can post a error for you.03:22
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brendonMr_Sonoma: sure.03:22
osloprestwick> i mean if i paste a file to a location then an other file to the same location i'd like it put the second one at queue... but yes it's for an ftp link03:22
nosrednaekimEvolution2: is sda6 mounted?03:22
Evolution2yes03:23
prestwickNo idea Oslo, sorry.03:23
Evolution2i did that already03:23
oslodo u speak 2 me ?03:23
Mr_Sonoma sudo apt-get autoremove03:23
Mr_SonomaPassword:03:23
Mr_SonomaReading package lists... Done03:23
Mr_SonomaBuilding dependency tree03:23
Mr_SonomaReading state information... Done03:23
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Mr_Sonoma0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:23
Mr_Sonoma1 not fully installed or removed.03:23
Mr_SonomaNeed to get 0B of archives.03:23
Mr_SonomaAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.03:23
Mr_SonomaSetting up havp (0.82-1ubuntu1) ...03:23
Mr_SonomaStarting havp: Starting HAVP Version: 0.8203:23
underdog5004!paste | Mr_Sonoma03:24
ubotuMr_Sonoma: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:24
Mr_SonomaCould not open lock testfile /var/run/havp/havp-tev5gS: No such file or directory03:24
osloPASTEBIN03:24
Mr_SonomaMaybe you need to: chown havp /var/run/havp03:24
Mr_SonomaExiting..03:24
Mr_Sonomainvoke-rc.d: initscript havp, action "start" failed.03:24
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Mr_Sonomadpkg: error processing havp (--configure):03:24
Mr_Sonoma subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 103:24
Mr_SonomaErrors were encountered while processing:03:24
Mr_Sonoma havp03:24
nosrednaekimEvolution2: where is it mounted to?03:24
Mr_SonomaE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:24
Mr_Sonoma03:24
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Evolution2nosrednaekim: that i dont know03:24
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nosrednaekimEvolution2: you didn't manually mount it?03:24
Evolution2nosrednaekim: no03:24
nosrednaekimEvolution2: then it isn't mounted03:25
underdog5004Mr_Sonoma, ummm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a03:25
underdog5004that may help03:25
nosrednaekimEvolution2:  run "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt"03:25
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Mr_Sonomaok i ran the autoremove just to get it up.....i started having a problem when running adept updater and apt-get then a day or 2 later lost the powersupply figured it was connected.03:25
brendonMr_Sonoma: As you can guess, you have a partially installed app.03:26
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Mr_Sonomauh hu and been unable to remove it LOL03:26
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brendonMr_Sonoma: There is something in the ubuntu wiki on how to clean up03:27
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Mr_Sonomaok no output from that command03:27
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underdog5004Mr_Sonoma, apt-get remove --purge app-name03:27
brendonMr_Sonoma: I don't remember the magic, but it is pretty easy.03:27
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brendongotta run...03:29
Mr_Sonomathanks man03:29
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level1I'm using k3b to rip a dvd and it stalls forever on the first step, resizing image to 640xsomething... I have libdvdcss2 installed03:31
level1what are the other dvd rip utilities?  dvd::rip just doesn't work for me03:32
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stdinlevel1: k9copy?03:34
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level1stdin: where is the "I want to copy this dvd button" on k9copy?03:36
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stdinlevel1: under the Actions menu03:37
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zanderi am running "Step 2: Debmiror (optional)" from Builder/ "HowToCreateYourOwnGNULinuxDistribution" for about 24 hours now showing %12 done... so it usually takes that long then?...03:38
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brendon_Mr_Sonoma: Did you solve the problem while I moved homes?03:42
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intelikeyhmmm anyone know anything about /etc/passwd and the accounts on the system ?      do any non-user accounts need a shell ?03:42
nosrednaekimintelikey: I don't think so03:43
brendon_intelikey: non-user accounts should not have a shell03:43
brendon_a shell is a security risk03:43
intelikeybrendon_ then by default ubuntu has a load of security risks03:43
brendon_yes!03:44
level1zander: are you doing a LFS?03:44
intelikeyall but two have shells03:44
level1whats so dangeruos about that?03:44
zanderyou mean a "something File System"?03:44
zanderlevel103:44
brendon_well, without a shell, you can't login as that user.03:45
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level1zander: linux from scratch03:45
level1I do that if I had a lot of time on my hands... but even I'm not that bored03:45
brendon_if everything else is set up right, you shouldn't be able to.  But its one more precaution03:45
zanderoh... why yes then i am..03:45
brendon_and stops su to the user, etc03:45
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level1zander: actually, LFS refers to distributions based on the instructions of a particular book by that name... are you following that book?03:46
brendon_intelikey: BTW, if you blindly change them all to /bin/false you may break somehting that DOES need the shell03:47
level1actually, its not really a "distribution" is it?03:47
zanderlevel1: no i am not.  i was not aware of that book. i will look into it. i am just following the instructions on the gNewSense.org web-site.03:47
intelikeybrendon_ but if all is setup correctly then that shouldn't be an issue cause only root can su without a password to any account,   and i agree that rather than /bin/[ba,*] sh  /bin/[true,false]  would be better on most of them.   just wondered if any actually needed a shell03:47
MinatakuUgh03:47
MinatakuAnything with a G before it sounds bad to me03:48
MinatakuBecause it's usually GNOME related03:48
level1Minataku: do gnome apps really use G everywhere?03:48
zanderlevel1: LFS sounds like a title i need in my library...03:48
Minatakulevel1: A lot do03:48
brendon_intelikey: The issue is more important on a server.  You don't want a DNS server (or whatever) compromised and giving the "guest" a shell03:48
nosrednaekimyeah.. like K apps use k everywhere03:48
level1it would be funny if someone came out Knome...03:49
intelikeybrendon_ heh and if i don't "blindly set them all"  how will i know   :)03:49
Mr_Sonomabrendon_: no i havent03:49
level1do people really pronounce the name "Guh-Nome"?03:49
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level1I thought the "G" was silent03:50
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intelikeysome even say  guh-no-me03:50
zibrah3edare they developementally challegened?03:50
underdog5004rofl03:51
brendon_intelikey: As long as you know what you are doing.  blindly do it.  If you are a nooob, don't03:51
intelikeyno just idioscynconusly challanged underdog500403:51
underdog5004uh...03:52
MinatakuI just call it "crap"03:52
underdog5004intelikey, I think you meant to say that to zibrah3ed03:52
brendon_Mr_Sonoma: what have you tried?03:52
nosrednaekimoh... wow... so sicinct03:52
zanderi built GCC native on my fujitsu after i installed gNewSense.  would i gain anything by reinstalling gnewsense or does the gnewsense distro. actual compile a kernal on install after polling the hardware... i may be oldschool but i thought that is how gnu linux installs... anyway gnu.org recognizes gnewsense as "pure gnu".03:52
intelikeywell i'm  a bit of a newbee   but i'll go ahead and set every account but the normal user and root to /bin/true03:52
MinatakuAh03:52
MinatakuBut no03:52
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MinatakuYOU configure the kernel03:53
brendon_intelikey: make a backup of the file, so you know how to kix what you break! LOL03:53
MinatakuIt's only automatic in distros... well in none of them03:53
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level1Is there a practical reason why you would install gnewsense or is it just to show support for open source?03:55
zanderwill i gain any performance by reinstalling gnewsense after a native GCC compiler build and install?03:55
Mr_Sonomabrendon: i tried the dpkg thing that underdog5004 suggested earlier03:55
zibrah3edno practical reason, only the warm fuzzy of only open source03:55
Mr_Sonomaand a few searches on the wiki, with little luck, although not sure exactly what i should look for "partially installed programs" didnt return anything in the search on the wiki03:56
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zanderlevel1: well i am a gnu enthusiast i have a b.s. in computer science from the howard r. hughes colledge of engineering at unlv.03:56
zibrah3edgreat03:56
level1zander: I'm not critizising, I just want to know03:57
level1I'd do such a thing but my laptop has bad hardware support... If I need proprietary drivers, I'll get them03:57
zanderlevel1: okay...03:57
darkrift411question03:58
darkrift411i have a sd card (in the built in reader)03:58
nosrednaekimindeed03:58
level1really, in the case of drivers, I don't have a problem with closed source, its just the closed source drivers are so bad... with all other software I like open source, esp KDE03:58
brendonMr_Sonoma: Have you tried apt-get with -f ?03:58
nosrednaekimNvidia' are actually decent03:58
level1darkrift411: usually drives work pretty smoothly... are you having a problem?03:59
zanderlevel1: yes... i want to develop clusters using circa 1999 apple ibooks running powerpc...03:59
level1darkrift411: unless your using NTFS, then its trouble03:59
zibrah3edlol nvidia drivers decent03:59
darkrift411and im trying to copy some mp3's from my windows disk (/media/sda1/mp3)03:59
level1zander: whats that supposed to mean?03:59
darkrift411it copies a few, tehn it errors out03:59
zibrah3edKeep telling yourself that and you may believe it03:59
darkrift411cant copy03:59
Mr_Sonomai had not even thought of that...i'll try it04:00
darkrift411it did the same thing when i tried to copy a 350mb file over... it got like 30% and then said cant write to /media/disk04:00
zanderi have a dedicated sd slot on my fujitsu i have not tested it yet since my gnusense install i will check to see if it work okay...04:00
level1zibrah3ed: I'm sure they're a lot better than fglrx... yeah, put that in your pipe and smoke it04:00
darkrift411it does that going from ntfs or from my linux partition04:00
darkrift411so the source doesnt seem to matter04:00
Mr_Sonomanawww still the same04:00
zanderlevel1: i was just telling what i am trying to do here around my place...04:00
brendonMr_Sonoma: http://www.linux.com/articles/48910 came from google "apt-get broken packages"04:01
brendonMr_Sonoma: That gives many possible solutions.04:02
zanderi just plugged in a 2Gig sd card into my m/c's sd reader writer... i don't think anything happened...04:03
Mr_Sonomathanks man im reading through it now...(if only the kids would leave me alone long enough to get this resolved.)04:03
level1ack... something is using all my /tmp and I'm out of space on my root partition!04:03
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intelikeyhmmm i have a gui now  and four apps for it    i feel so gui'y04:04
nosrednaekimlevel1: doing any streaming?04:04
brendonMr_Sonoma: how old are the monsters?04:04
stdinlevel1: "du /tmp |sort -rnk 1,1|head" see what's taking all the space pu04:04
Mr_Sonoma5 and 204:04
stdin*up04:04
Mr_Sonomabrothers04:04
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darkrift411does linux have a filename lenght limit?04:05
smiwoolhola quetal buenas noches04:05
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: yeah04:05
Mr_Sonomauh not that i have hit yet *grin*04:05
smiwool algun mexicano que me ayude04:05
level1nosrednaekim: dvd ripping... its using /tmp for some stuff I guess04:05
stdindarkrift411: linux doesn't, but the FS does04:05
nosrednaekimits like 23000 characters04:05
brendonI've got a 3 and 6 monsters04:05
level1whats the limit in ext3?04:05
zanderi don't think my 2gig sd mounted... i likely need to edit /etc/config and stuff...04:06
stdinlevel1: 255 bytes (so 255 characters)04:06
level1darkrift411: you can put anything into an ext3 filename (thats ubuntu default) except a foreword slash... you can even put a newline character in there... it shows up real weird in file browsers04:07
level1stdin: with unicode, its really more like 64 characters though, isn't it?04:07
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darkrift411damnit04:08
stdinlevel1: utf-8 is 8bit not 8byte04:08
SoulinEtheri just installed vanilla kde. what configuration program / command can i enter into the terminal will change the screen resolution? I ran a program via wine and it crashed.04:08
darkrift411why cant i copy this crap then04:08
not-Timmayhey does anyone use KATE for web page editing?04:08
stdinlevel1: 8bits to a byte04:08
intelikeywhich is which ?   is us time zones gmt plus or minus #   ???04:08
stdinintelikey: minus04:08
nosrednaekimnot-Timmay: lolz04:08
brendonnot-Timmay: I hope not!04:08
not-Timmaywhy not?04:08
Mr_Sonomanot far in age from mine then04:08
level1stdin: but 8 bits can only encode 256 distict characters... how do they get all that japanese in there?04:09
brendonno.04:09
intelikeystdin then why is 7am here with that setting and an internet sync ?04:09
brendonbut mine can get real "helpful"04:09
SoulinEtherUS times zones are all -04:09
SoulinEther-4 is east coast, -7 is west coast04:09
stdinlevel1: who knows :P04:09
Mr_SonomaLOL mine too04:09
darkrift411hrmmmm04:09
darkrift411was a group permission problem04:09
darkrift411odd thign was04:09
stdinintelikey: GMT is now 02:1004:10
darkrift411im the owner04:10
darkrift411but thegroup was root04:10
Mr_Sonomathey tried to help me move the MB and drives to the new case (since i was buying a new p/s anyways i wanted front usb on this one so i got a new case too *grin*)04:10
darkrift411and even with kdesu konqueror it wouldnt klet me write to it04:10
Mr_Sonomathe 2 year old took off with half my screws when i got the MB out of the old case04:10
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brendonLOL04:11
Mr_Sonoma-5 is east timezone04:11
SoulinEtherlol, then i'm probably off on my own time zone too lol04:11
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3780304:11
intelikeywhat am i missing ?04:12
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crxyemok, well, I've got a few different hard disk controllers, a promise sx4060, promise tx133, highpoint 100, and a highpoint 464, the sx4060 and the highpoint 464 are raid cards, but all I want is a nother disk controller so I can add 4-250gb drive and have access to tham any ideas ??04:12
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SoulinEtheryou have to mount them with non-root permissions?04:12
intelikeyName: []  gmt+504:12
intelikeyYour default time zone is set to 'Etc/GMT+5'.04:12
intelikeyLocal time is now:      Fri Jun 29 21:12:33 GMT+5 2007.04:12
intelikeyUniversal Time is now:  Sat Jun 30 02:12:33 UTC 2007.04:12
Schuenemannnot-Timmay, try aptana: www.aptana.com04:13
intelikeystdin ???04:13
SoulinEtherseriously this is for kde users, and nobody knows how to change the resolution? :S04:13
stdinintelikey: it says "Etc/GMT-5" not "Etc/GMT+5"04:13
intelikeylook at the pastebin and the flood  ^04:13
crxyemSoulin: display resulotion ???04:14
SoulinEtheryes :P04:14
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stdinintelikey: on the pastebin it has - on the flood it's +04:14
SoulinEtheri have looked, and found no such utility. And i've tried several CLI command possibilities that I could make up.04:14
intelikeystdin correct the flood says gtm+5 and the time is correct   the pastebin says -5 and the time is wrong.04:14
stdinhmm04:14
Mr_Sonomagrrrr04:14
intelikeyso what am i not seeing there  ???04:15
crxyemkmenu>systemsettings>monitor and display04:15
crxyemclick admin mode make changes04:15
brendonMr_Sonoma: whats happening?04:15
SoulinEthercrxyem, i don't have monitor and display; this is a more vanilla kde... i installed via apt-get install kde-core04:15
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SoulinEtherwhat is the name of the kde program that handles the display?04:16
Mr_Sonomastill the same04:16
crxyemah04:16
brendondid you try all those commands?04:16
nosrednaekimSoulinEther: get "kubuntu-desktop"04:16
Mr_Sonomagetting agravated enough to whipe the system04:16
Mr_Sonomayup04:16
SoulinEthernosrednaekim: no, lol, it's too bloated.04:16
crxyemexactly you missed a package04:16
nosrednaekimSoulinEther: ok then.04:16
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crxyemso any ideas on pci disk controllers anyone ?04:17
SoulinEthernosrednaekim: but ... you just gave me an idea, thanks04:17
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nosrednaekimwhat?04:17
stdinintelikey: ?? maybe a bug in whatever cmd you are using04:17
SoulinEthercheck what kubuntu desktop installs and install the one package i'll need04:17
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intelikeystdin tzconfig04:17
SoulinEtherkde-systemsettings04:17
brendonMr_Sonoma: what did apt-get -f remove do?04:18
intelikeystdin yeah i'm suspecting it is.04:18
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Mr_Sonomasame as what i posted to you earlier04:18
brendonMr_Sonoma: and more importantly dpkg -r <package>04:19
brendonor --purge04:19
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darkrift411wow04:19
darkrift411anyone able to tell me why a disk operation (copying 800mb worth of mp3's to an sd card) just brought my brand new laptop to its knees?04:20
darkrift411and it didnt even copy it all, just about 80mb of it04:20
darkrift411my mouse wouldnt even move the system was so locked up04:20
brendonMr_Sonoma: I'm assuming you ran ALL these commands 'sudo'?  I hope.04:20
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Mr_Sonomanot quite that much of a N00B04:21
p51bobi have a rpm package with a driver for my modem and want to know how to install the rpm04:21
brendonJust checking...04:21
Mr_Sonomaalthough feeling NooBish now04:21
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Mr_Sonomalol04:21
brendonwe all do from time to time04:21
brendonhave you tried removing the file that is causing problems?04:22
Mr_Sonomahavp?04:22
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Mr_Sonomanaww havnt gone after it with rm yet...(learned a lesson or two about rm under dapper)04:22
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brendonWell, you could use mv so that you can go back.04:23
=== Mr_Sonoma nods but wonders where the fun is in that *grin*
bankseyAnyone recommend a good Music Player, Besides Marok?04:24
stdinmplayer04:24
stdin!media04:25
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:25
brendonif you want fun, use find with regex to find and delete stuff as root.04:25
SoulinEtherbanshee04:25
Mr_Sonomakaffine is what i use most, Amarok is ok04:25
bankseyI don't like the way Amarok manages files04:25
stdinAmarok in GUI, mplayer/sox in CLI04:25
brendonFor me all the video players give me scrambled video?04:26
bankseyYou need codecs04:26
stdinif it's WMV, it may be DRM04:26
Schuenemannamarok takes too long to start04:26
bankseyNot with 2 gigs of RAM :D04:26
stdintakes <1s to start04:26
SchuenemannI'm using xmms, even though it's discontinued04:26
brendonit is all video, and I think I have the codecs...04:26
stdin(not with 2GB ram here)04:27
bankseyI jus don't like the layout and little things like that04:27
Schuenemannwell, xmms loads in ~1/4 of the time04:27
p51bobneed channel for hardware support04:28
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bankseyHwo much space on the HD does Kubuntu actaully take up?04:29
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intelikeywell i guess i can get used to viewing gmt   heh04:31
Schuenemann?04:31
intelikeySat Jun 30 02:28:54 UTC 2007  at least the RTC is correct now.04:31
hitmanWillybanksey: around 1.5 gigs for a standard install IIRC04:31
crxyemok, well, I've got a few different hard disk controllers, a promise sx4060, promise tx133, highpoint 100, and a highpoint 464, the sx4060 and the highpoint 464 are raid cards, but all I want is a nother disk controller so I can add 4-250gb drive and have access to tham any ideas ??04:31
brendonintelikey: what is your time problem?  I wasn't following.04:31
Schuenemann!iirc04:31
ubotuIIRC means "if I remember correctly"04:31
Mr_Sonomabbiab04:32
bankseyDoes it actually mean that :D04:32
hitmanWillybanksey: yes :P04:32
SchuenemannI thought it had something to IRC04:32
bankseylol04:33
intelikeybrendon setting the timezone to gmt-5 yelds wrong time for us  but setting it to  gmt+5 gives correct time for local but sets the rtc to 10hours off.04:33
hitmanWillystandard irc shorthand04:33
Schuenemann@now bahia04:33
banksey!irc04:33
ubotuCurrent time in America/Bahia: June 29 2007, 23:33:20 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 3 days04:33
brendonSchuenemann: it does.  since it only means that here!04:33
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines04:33
bankseyAhhhh, Internet Relay Chat04:33
banksey!mirc04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
SchuenemannNext meeting: Technical Board in 3 days <--- what is this?04:33
intelikeybrendon it has to be a but in the app.  nothing else i know of can explain such wierd behaviour04:34
intelikeyunless   something needs a shell     hehhe :)04:34
brendonlol04:34
bankseyHmmm04:34
banksey!lol04:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:34
intelikeybrendon but it was doing that months ago so it's not the passwd file04:35
bankseyDumb bot :P04:35
intelikey!botsnack04:35
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:35
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hitmanWillyi guess they figure that one's a gimme04:35
Schuenemann!b0rk3d04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about b0rk3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
brendonintelikey: you do have the hardware clock set to gmt?04:35
banksey!ubotu04:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:35
bankseyLOL04:35
intelikeyyes rebooted just to get into bios and make sure04:35
bankseyCocky lil thing04:36
Schuenemann?04:36
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brendonintelikey:  Does everything look good if you rgt click on the clock oon your desktop?04:37
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intelikeybrendon i have sense made sumlinks for timezone adjtime and localtime in /etc/  all pointing at /dev/null   problem solved.04:37
intelikeybrendon what desktop ?04:37
bryanHi intelikey04:37
intelikeybrendon console only !04:37
brendonintelikey: Yes, a proper linuxer!04:38
intelikeybryan !04:38
bryanintelikey- was up04:38
intelikeyd'nada04:38
bryanintelikey- remember my issue?04:38
intelikeyprobably not,  refresh me.04:39
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bryanI try envy to install video card nvidia 7900gt04:39
intelikeyah yeah.04:39
SchuenemannI already gave up installing my video04:39
bryanI don't know if it was my router messing thing up or not04:40
purpleposeidonNX continues to amaze me. -_-04:40
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intelikeybryan is it solved?  or do i run hide ?04:40
intelikey:)04:40
bryanBut I had to remove it for now untill I get kubuntu going04:40
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bryanWhen I ran the envy program it added my drivers for the vcard but when I restarted kubuntu did not log in04:42
banksey!GNOME04:42
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.04:42
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bankseyDoes GNOME stand for something?04:43
bryanHeres a nother one for you intelikey04:43
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darkrift411ok04:43
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bryanHow can you tell if router is going bad?04:43
darkrift411is there a way to upgrade drivers for an sd slot?04:43
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intelikeybryan idk,  if the smoke sneeks out of it, it's bad ???04:44
bryanlol04:45
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hitmanWillybryan: you could try pinging it and see what it returns04:45
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intelikeyah yes hit up the hitman for answers on that...04:46
hitmanWillybryan: if you get a lot of lag or something else weird pops up04:46
darkrift411ok, i hjave a process that somehow lost its window04:46
darkrift411i can see it in the process list04:46
darkrift411how do i bring the window back?04:46
intelikeydcop    maybe04:47
intelikeybut he left.....  !04:47
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darkrift411holy *#%^04:48
darkrift411thats the first major linux crash ive seen04:48
darkrift411stuff flashed all over then went black04:48
j_cool04:48
bryanyes I do. Sometimes it works04:48
darkrift411and restarted :(04:48
Biovoreussualy if linux crashes it prints segfault info and frezzes04:48
hitmanWillydarkrift411: wow, that's weird and unusual04:48
Biovorehardware issue maybe..04:49
level1what are the main issues these days for 64 bit linux?  is it improving at all?04:49
hitmanWillydarkrift411: did the whole system crash, or just X?04:49
level1darkrift411: was it a restart or just an Xorg crash?04:49
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darkrift411just x04:49
Biovoreconsidering linux was the first os ofr x86_64.  Almost overything works on it..04:49
darkrift411went back to the command line where x logged back in04:49
ans_Hi. I have a Fujitsu LifeBook B2630 that currently has Windows 2000 on it. I would like to install a dual boot Win 2000 / Kubuntu on it, but it being an ultraportable laptop, it doesn't have a CD-ROM drive or disk drive of any sort. I am guessing I can install it over a network, but I don't know where to start. Could someone steer me toward a tutorial or other info that may help? Thanks.04:49
level1Biovore: I hear the supportness is still lagging04:49
level1Biovore: like, drivers and stuff04:50
brendonwdarkrift411: then it wasn't a linux crash04:50
hitmanWilly!net install04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about net install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
darkrift411it was a crash, and it happened in linux04:50
darkrift411close enough for me04:50
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bryanintilikey- will be back04:50
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darkrift411later all04:50
brendonwthen firefox does it for me all the time!04:50
hitmanWillywell, if an app crash means a system crash, then windows crashes hourly04:51
brendonwbut it does...04:52
hitmanWillylol04:52
hitmanWillywaiting for that one04:52
brendonwI checked my main servers the other day.  uptime was nearly 500 days04:52
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intelikeyup 25 min,  0 users,04:53
hitmanWillyplus due to the modular nature of linux, a major crash usually isn't fatal04:53
intelikeyi don't have users.04:53
brendonwI don't remember any of my servers crashing, ever.04:53
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intelikeyi can bring them down, you want them to crash ?04:54
hitmanWillyintelikey: ok, how the fsck did you pull that off? it should show at least one (you)04:54
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intelikeyhitmanWilly i don't login04:55
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intelikeyi'm init i can do anything.04:55
brendonwintelikey: I don't count a DOS attack as a crash.04:55
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hitmanWillyintelikey: now there's an interesting hack04:55
intelikeybrendonw :)04:55
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hitmanWillylol04:56
intelikeyi better hush i'll have some kid trying to install a rootkit on their box04:57
intelikeyit has happened before.04:57
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brendonwbut its not like you are running windows.04:58
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intelikeybrendonw not at all.04:58
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brendonwtoo bad she seems mental04:59
intelikeyoh my.   some k-lines    that was quick...04:59
brendonwoops, that was for chat04:59
intelikey!ops | why all the k-lines  something is wrong.04:59
ubotuwhy all the k-lines  something is wrong.: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!04:59
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Biovorek-lined most of the channel05:00
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intelikeysoon to get all...05:00
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intelikeysomeone has taken over a server ?    k-lines every where05:01
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hitmanWillyintelikey: someone hack an op acct?05:02
TrueFXhow can i write files to an ntf partition?05:02
intelikeymust have05:02
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dsmith_wtf05:02
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TrueFXis there a way to write ntfs partitions?05:02
intelikeysome cracker did a full take over form the looks of it.05:02
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hitmanWillyintelikey: nice, bad, but nice05:02
intelikeyTrueFX better to let windows do that.05:03
dsmith_just ead ntfs05:03
dsmith_*read05:03
intelikeyhitmanWilly yeah.05:03
intelikey!ntfs-3g05:03
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:03
intelikeydsmith_ ^05:04
hitmanWillyintelikey: that may even be a server takeover...05:04
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intelikeyhitmanWilly that was what i said first.   those look to me like server side actions05:04
intelikeyand it's obviously a script.05:05
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dsmith_then why ae we still on?05:05
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hitmanWillyintelikey: sorry, missed that, do many K-line msgs :P05:05
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intelikeyno human could have k-lined 12k people that fast05:05
hitmanWillys/do/too05:05
dsmith_no human, heh05:05
TrueFXhow can i start ntfs configuration tool in kubuntu?05:07
intelikeyntfs configuration tool ???  you need a tool ?05:07
dsmith_intelikey: we now have 6 machines running kubuntuat the compnay05:08
TrueFXwhatever it is05:08
dsmith_*company05:08
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intelikeydsmith_ nice.  that's been what 6/7 months sense you started pushing them ?05:09
dsmith_yes..05:09
dsmith_all satellite remote offices05:09
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dsmith_I bought new HP 1022 printers for them, installed on a Dell C521s05:09
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dsmith_however the smaller ACER desktops work just as well. Same mobo arcitechure05:10
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intelikeyTrueFX if i knew anything about an ntfs configuration tool i'd try to help       maybe open a konsole and type   ntf[tab] [tab]       where [tab]  means the tab key.05:10
dsmith_I see that ubuntu is coming out with a home server as well :)05:11
intelikeythought that it came out with that in the hoary release ?05:11
intelikeyor was it warty ?05:11
intelikeybut you mean a gui config tool for it, right ?05:12
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dsmith_http://www.ubuntuhomeserver.org/05:14
dsmith_hmmm firefox keeps crashing05:14
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juliushow do i set it to use double clicks?05:15
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intelikeyAnakin how did you get freenode to let you connect with 0 for an irc-username ???05:15
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intelikeyjulius right click the desktop configure ???   run kcontrol and find the setting in there ?   get in the konqueror menu and configure it from there ?     i think all of those still work.05:17
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dianne_can i have some help fixing my dpkg please05:18
hitmanWillydianne_: package database lock?05:18
dianne_nope05:18
dianne_i've installed a 3rd party package05:18
dianne_with dpkg -i05:18
dianne_and it's failed to install05:19
dianne_and i can't remove it05:19
dianne_with dpkg -r05:19
hitmanWillydianne_: try with --purge05:19
dianne_tried that05:19
dianne_didn't work05:19
dianne_it keeps telling me that I need to re-install it05:19
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dianne_but every re-install fails05:19
hitmanWillydianne_: try dpkg --configure -a05:20
dianne_i've also done that05:20
dianne_and it failed05:20
dianne_to fix the problem05:20
intelikeydsmith_ yeah they are writing a gui for server config and admin   only the gui app will be new really.    server and desktop install cd's were both shipped togather  but have sense been seperated out and this will be added to the server cd05:20
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hitmanWillydianne_: can you install other pkgs? or is dpkg totally borked?05:21
dianne_totally broken05:21
hitmanWilly!aptfix05:21
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:21
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dianne_no, that wont help05:21
dianne_i didn't use adept05:22
intelikeydianne_ dpkg -P --force-all package     "not package-version.deb  just packagename"   you can obtain 'packagename' with dpkg -l | grep 'partialname'05:22
hitmanWillydianne_: yeah, that just removes the locks05:22
fulat2khi folks, are there any screen capture apps which can scroll the window object while capturing?05:23
dianne_hitmanWilly: intelikey: no go05:23
intelikeybe advised that playing with dpkg dirrectly is not gracious nor forgiving.   know what you are doing or don't cry about it if it breaks things.05:23
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dianne_errors while processing05:24
hitmanWillydianne_: can you pastebin the output?05:24
intelikeypastebin the output05:24
dianne_intelikey: i did a right click on the file in konqueror05:24
dianne_where do i pastebin to?05:24
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intelikey!paste05:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:25
FireHazard17to #pastebin05:25
FireHazard17orly?05:25
FireHazard17i thought you did it on #patsebin not somewebsite05:25
intelikeynow you know.05:26
dianne_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27899/05:26
hitmanWillyand knowing is half the battle :P05:26
FireHazard17ill still use #pastebin though05:27
intelikeythat's not the full text.05:27
intelikeydianne_ what else did it say ?05:27
dianne_it should be...05:27
dianne_that's ll05:27
dianne_all05:27
dianne_what command do u want me to run05:27
hitmanWillythere should be a --verbose option05:28
dianne_ok ill run it with verbose05:28
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intelikeythat should have removed it already.  those errors are not important with the  --force-all switch.05:29
intelikeyi'm guessing that it's not installed now.05:29
dianne_i still cant install anything05:29
dianne_because of this package05:29
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intelikeydianne_ show me the output of: dpkg -l | grep conexant05:30
dianne_dianne@dianne-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep conexant05:30
dianne_pHR conexant                               192-1ubuntu-1                          modem modules for conexant hsf models05:30
dianne_dianne@dianne-desktop:~$05:30
hitmanWillyit is still there05:31
dianne_yea05:31
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intelikeypHR removed.05:31
intelikeybut still a problem with the R running.05:31
dianne_i dont understand the pHR05:32
intelikeydianne_  lsmod | grep conex05:32
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hitmanWillyoh...duh05:32
dianne_nothing05:32
Evolution3i would like to install a QtCurve theme but i dont know how. help anyone?05:33
hitmanWillyEvolution3: should be an option in kcontrol05:33
intelikeydianne_ ok i'll give you a hack that "should" solve this,  but it's just that 'a hack'    you want ?05:34
dianne_sure.. saves a re-install05:34
Evolution3hitmanWilly: i dont know how to do it. iam kinda new05:34
dianne_if it works :p05:34
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intelikeydianne_ echo true | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/conexant.postrm ;sudo dpkg -r conexant05:35
hitmanWillyEvolution2: alt-f2, kcontrol, Appearance & Themes --> Theme Manager05:35
hitmanWillyintelikey: nice :P05:36
dianne_intelikey: what will that do?05:36
intelikeyit will make dpkg ignore the post removal script that i throwing the error.05:36
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dianne_dianne@dianne-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep conexant05:37
dianne_rHR conexant                               192-1ubuntu-1                          modem modules for conexant hsf models05:37
dianne_it didn't fix it :(05:37
intelikeydianne_ did you run that command   ^ ?05:37
dianne_yes, absolutely05:37
hitmanWillyintelikey: nice try, tho :)05:38
intelikeydianne_ no errors ?05:38
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Evolution2hitmanWilly: yeah i got there but it wont let me install it. the .tar is on my desktop05:38
bryanenvy depends on build-essential ????05:38
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bryanwhat does that mean?05:38
intelikeyyes it does bryan05:38
intelikeymeans install 'build-essential'05:39
dianne_intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/05:39
bryanhow?05:39
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dianne_intelikey: is there a way to 'fake' the install05:40
hitmanWillyEvolution2: untar it in a directory like ~/themes and try installing it then (~ means your home dir)05:40
intelikeydianne_ ah ok so sudo apt-get install -f    then run that same line again.05:40
dianne_E: The package conexant needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.05:40
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hitmanWillywow, that's one borked dpkg05:41
dianne_yeah05:41
hitmanWillyintelikey: can she move the deb into apt's cache dir?05:41
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dianne_ill do that05:41
hitmanWillydianne_: wait a minute05:41
intelikeyhitmanWilly wont help.  it's not looking for a file it's reading the database.05:41
hitmanWillyintelikey: maybe force install then remove it?05:42
intelikeytry it and see.05:42
^V^bryan: sudo apt-get install build-essential05:42
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Guilty_as_Sinanyone have any good suggestions for avi encoders?05:43
^V^Guilty_as_Sin: avi is just a container format05:43
bryanthanx05:43
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Guilty_as_Sinyeah..  I just want to rip from a home dvd and encode to avi for easier transfer to family05:44
Guilty_as_Sinjust something smaller..  a lil easier to email.05:44
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: divx or xvid encoder is probably what you want05:44
^V^what I mean is, it is just a file format, and could be encoded as anything05:44
intelikeydianne_ translate packagename and /path/to in this   and use:  sudo dpkg -i --force-all /path/to/packagename.deb ; echo true | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/conexant.postrm ;sudo dpkg -r conexant05:44
dr_willisxvid is good  :)05:45
^V^mpeg for instance05:45
Guilty_as_SinI was figuring on xvid05:45
dianne_intelikey: no go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27902/05:45
Guilty_as_Sinthanks..  just wanted to know your opinions05:45
intelikeyforcing install to force a remove is not my idea of good package management but if it works...05:45
Guilty_as_Sinyes mpeg05:45
^V^depends on what your uses of the video will be, do you want high quality or small file size?05:45
Guilty_as_Sina combo of both05:46
Guilty_as_Sintwo pass I assume05:46
dianne_intelikey: is there a way to make dpkg believe that it's installed correctly?05:47
Guilty_as_SinI have worked w/ a lot of dvd editors and such back in windows..  just not that skilled at avi encoding or any of it's software05:47
intelikeydianne_ hmmm  not that i know of.05:47
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dianne_argh05:48
dr_willisI tend to use that avidumix program05:48
dr_willis!find acid05:48
ubotuFound: acidbase, acidrip05:48
dr_willis!find avid05:48
ubotuFound: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux05:49
dr_willisavidemux05:49
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^V^Guilty_as_Sin: try acidrip05:49
Guilty_as_Sinsay you wanted aXXo quality..  what kind of app could accomplish that kind of quality?05:49
Guilty_as_SinI've seen some of his work and it's practically dvd quality if you ask me05:50
intelikeydianne_ you can edit the scripts  kdesu kate /var/lib/dpkg/info/conexant.*     and add  /bin/true    as the new second line of each script   "note that command will open the .list file too. ignore it."  save and run;  sudo dpkg --configure -a05:50
bryanhow would I know if my vcard wasinstalled ?05:50
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FireHazard17bryan: what DE?05:50
bryansorry whats ED?05:51
bryansorry DE?05:51
underdog5004bryan, video card? type in lspci05:51
FireHazard17Desktop Envirment05:51
intelikeydianne_ i had to do that one time.  not fun not clean but affective.  that will "make dpkg 'think' it configured correctly"  as per your question.05:51
bryannvidia 7900 gt used envy to install05:51
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Guilty_as_Sinok of to sudo...05:51
FireHazard17envy?05:52
bryanyes05:52
FireHazard17DEs are GNOME, KDE, XFCE05:52
underdog5004bryan, open up a terminal, and type in glxinfo | grep direct05:52
FireHazard17what is envy?05:52
dianne_i dont need to do the conffiles or the md5sums either i expect05:52
bryanhttp://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html05:52
underdog5004if it says direct rendering = yes or true then it's installed nicely05:52
intelikeycorrect05:53
dianne_intelikey:  there's only   two files to edit05:53
dr_willisenvy is a script to install the nvidia drivers.. Not reallyneeded unless you want the latest versions05:53
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FireHazard17underdog5004: yeah thats to tell if hardware acceleration works05:53
intelikeydianne_ from two to four is normal05:53
FireHazard17i want the latest versions05:53
Guilty_as_SinI thought envy was a hack?05:53
FireHazard17i my self am a gamer05:53
bryanglxinfo | grep direct says yes05:53
underdog5004FireHazard17, that seems like the only thing you can't tell immediately. If he can see the desktop, the driver is working, but the hardware acceleration is the thing to have.05:53
intelikeydianne_  a pre and post  rm and inst05:53
FireHazard17bryan: good05:54
crdlbFireHazard17, nvidia-glx-new is plenty new enough05:54
intelikeyand/or05:54
underdog5004bryan, good, it's installed nicely05:54
FireHazard17crdlb: that is what i have but i s really new enough?05:54
crdlbFireHazard17, yes05:54
dianne_intelikey: well it wont install05:54
dianne_remove*05:54
dianne_brb05:54
bryanhow do I know if accelerations is working05:55
crdlbFireHazard17, the newer versions don't really offer much other than support for the 8xxx cards05:55
intelikeyglxinfo05:55
underdog5004bryan: glxinfo | grep direct05:55
underdog5004it's working already05:55
intelikeyglxgears05:55
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intelikeyunderdog5004 all i get out glx* is   Error: unable to open display (null)05:56
bryanThanks.  It worked on till the 3rd time a reinstalled kubuntu05:56
Guilty_as_Sinacidrip is perfect, thanks ^V^05:56
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underdog5004intelikey, what do you mean?05:56
^V^bryan: glxgears -printfps05:56
FireHazard17crdlb: what if i hav a 8800 i said i as a gamer05:56
^V^and let us know what sort of numbers you are getting05:57
FireHazard17crdlb: what if i had a 8800 i said i was a gamer*05:57
bryanwhat would that do?05:57
intelikeyheh i means that's all it will print form any glx command underdog5004   :)05:57
FireHazard17sorry for the typos05:57
crdlbFireHazard17, if you have 3d accel working on the 8800, there's no point in upgrading05:57
^V^bryan: runs glxgears and prints the fps05:57
underdog5004weird...05:57
underdog5004intelikey, what type of video card do you have?05:57
intelikeynv05:57
crdlbthere's a not insignificant chance of envy breaking your nvidia drivers05:57
crdlbleaving you with no choice but to reinstall kubuntu05:58
underdog5004weird...05:58
intelikeyunderdog5004 you test it in a console and see if it works for you   :)05:58
underdog5004glxinfo | grep direct ?05:58
underdog5004ok05:58
underdog5004direct rendering: Yes05:58
underdog5004see?05:58
FireHazard17i dont have 8800 anyway05:59
intelikeythat's not from a console05:59
hitmanWillyunderdog5004: intellikey spends 95% of his time in a terminal anyway :)05:59
underdog5004:)05:59
FireHazard17just a 7600 with 512 ram and a bit overclocked05:59
intelikeyunderdog5004 that's from a x terminal  not  a console05:59
underdog5004I think there was some kind of problem with cards that have 512Mb of RAM...not sure about it though05:59
FireHazard17underdog5004: nope06:00
underdog5004intelikey, ok...I did that from rxvt06:00
FireHazard17underdog5004: i had heard with 25606:00
underdog5004oh, ok06:00
FireHazard17never 512 though06:00
intelikeyyes and rxvt != console06:00
FireHazard17and mine works fine06:00
underdog5004*sigh*06:00
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FireHazard17underdog5004: sigh?06:00
Guilty_as_Sinis acid rip ac3 capable at all?  just curious06:00
bryanhow long does glxgears run for06:00
FireHazard17forever06:01
FireHazard17til you terminate it06:01
hitmanWillybryan: until you shut it off06:01
^V^acidrip is just a gui frontend for Mplayer and Mencoder06:01
bryanso what do I do now?06:01
level1you know how theres that delay when you plug in an external hard drive before it gets mounted?  can you reduce that delay?06:01
^V^what number do you get for FPS?06:01
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^V^pick one06:01
bryanwhat am I looking for?06:01
underdog5004intelikey, hey, you're right...what do you know about that?06:01
intelikeyconsole = tty (vt)   rxvt = xterm = konsole = terminal emulators for the x windows system06:01
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intelikeywe maybe not  ==   but =~  on that last string  ^06:02
FireHazard17the number before FPS06:02
bryan111627 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22325.213 FPS06:02
underdog5004bryan, type in glxgears -printfps06:02
underdog5004intelikey, gotcha06:02
FireHazard17i get 8000 fps when its minimized06:02
^V^bryan: yeah, thats good06:02
FireHazard17holy shit that is good06:03
underdog5004ha ha ha, I get 180006:03
FireHazard17lol06:03
bryancool so now I can run beryl?06:03
underdog5004about 50 when it's up...I've also got beryl going though06:03
^V^bryan: what video card have you got?06:03
FireHazard17780006:03
bryannvidia 7900 gt06:03
FireHazard17oh 700006:03
FireHazard17oh 7900*06:04
underdog5004bryan, if you're on fiesty, I think that beryl is in the repositories06:04
intelikeyreally why would anyone need more than 120 fps  ????  you can't see more than that..06:04
bryanyes but do I have to install something else before?06:04
dr_willishalf the time - people come in here asking how to set up Beryl, then a day later.. they come in asking how to disable it. :)06:04
FireHazard17intelikey: in glxgears?06:04
intelikeyin reality06:05
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FireHazard17you dont06:05
dr_willisI thought in reality over 60 or so.. is hard to detect.06:05
hitmanWillythe human eye can't see past 120 fps06:05
FireHazard17but 8000 fps for glx fears = 60 i most games06:05
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dr_willisPlanks Constant of FPS division. :)06:05
bryanI had it before but it gave me issues? I just have it to show those MS fanboys06:05
intelikeydr_willis yeah for most 60-72 is the threshold  but some do "claim" that up to 88-90 is detectable   so i was generous and said 120  nothing living has even been able to prove vision of that magnatude06:06
FireHazard17i want 2 8800 ultras06:06
dr_willis:)06:06
bryanKNow to a new one. How do I make the pages burn?06:07
dr_willisI rember the old days of the amiga and its 'interlaced' mode of like 30 mhz refersh rates...06:07
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FireHazard17but i dont really wanna spend $2000 on my graphicks card06:07
intelikeymhz ????   hz !06:07
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bryanwhy 2 8800 ultras?06:07
dr_willishel i cant rember. :)06:07
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dr_willisit was on a TV.06:07
dr_willisMicro Hurtz06:07
intelikeymega06:08
FireHazard17bryan: so i have an eyegasm06:08
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dr_willis"anti jitter screens" = Plexiglass/polarized  screens06:08
bryanlol06:08
Minataku60Hz doesn't bother me06:08
ArtiFACThttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032946351484040588&q=kill+the+president&total=874&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=006:08
MinatakuAnd heya, dr_willis06:08
ArtiFACTwatch that..06:08
ArtiFACTyou'll get it.06:08
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MinatakuStill entertaining (or perhaps boring) houseguests? X306:09
FireHazard17im forced to have 60hz on my new crappy ass moniter06:09
intelikeyMinataku some times i think it does me.  but not all the time.  72 never bothers me tho.06:09
FireHazard17its a measky 15 in.06:09
bryanok guys I do I make pages burn when exit them06:09
MinatakuI use an LCD now primarily06:09
MinatakuThough my TV set is still 60Hz06:09
underdog5004FireHazard17, yuck06:09
dr_willisI need to get another lcd someday06:09
FireHazard17im using lcd06:09
MinatakuPiyoko's LCD hinge broke for good06:10
MinatakuI had to fix it with the wall mount bracket from a fire extinguisher06:10
bryanHow long does a router last06:10
MinatakuThe extinguisher sits on a table so it's fine06:10
dianne_intelikey: any other ideas about my borked dpkg?06:10
intelikeylcd  ummm to much backlight  to dirrectional06:10
Minatakubryan: Very long time if treated well06:10
FireHazard17before this a had a 17 or 19 in crt that went up to 80hz on 1024 x 768 and 1280 x 1024 at 60 hz06:10
bryantreated well?06:10
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FireHazard17but i "upgraded"06:11
bryanIt just sit there06:11
FireHazard17kinda06:11
Minatakubryan: Then it should technically last forever06:11
intelikeydianne_ just the config scripts and the dpkg --configure -a    that's all i would do if i was there.   unless new information comes in.06:11
bryanwhat are the signs of one going bad?06:11
Minatakubryan: Smoke is a good one06:12
bryanlol06:12
MinatakuLack of function is another good one06:12
MinatakuXD06:12
MinatakuIf it starts acting funny, basically06:12
MinatakuOr smelling06:12
underdog5004bryan, my router kept overheating from excessive network traffic, so I popped a heatsink and fan on it. I've got a pic somewhere...06:13
MinatakuBut if it keeps rebooting or dropping and there's nothing weird in the logs, then it may be getting flaky06:13
intelikeydianne_ they tell me that dpkg + apt +   is the best package management in the linux world.   (personally i had less trubble with rpm + urpm in mandrake)    but it sure is furstrating when you break it.06:13
bryanwell I think I got abad ones.  It on 24/7 for about 2yrs and runs 2 x360 to pc's06:13
dianne_intelikey: yeah nothing works i did the --configure -a, and nothing.. so i redid an install that fails06:13
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dianne_intelikey: so what the upshot of it is... i need to re-install kubuntu?06:13
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dianne_it's ok, since it's a fresh install atm06:14
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intelikeydianne_ gripe like hell that the package maker  ;/    and reload i guess.   i hate to say that but if dpkg can't be fixed the system is in a static state.06:14
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intelikeys/that/at/06:14
dianne_intelikey: thanks for your help (even though we couldn't fix it) at least you tried06:15
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intelikeyyeah. sorry it's a no go for you.06:15
dianne_intelikey: i apreciate that06:15
dianne_np06:16
dianne_like i said, it's a fresh install so nothings lost06:16
Minataku 00:14:46 up 110 days, 19:40,  5 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.20, 0.2106:16
MinatakuNiiiiice06:16
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intelikeyand do file a bug report on that package     where ever it came from.06:16
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dianne_sure06:17
intelikeyif people don't squalk when things like that happen they don't get fixed.06:17
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FireHazard17bad deb?06:18
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FireHazard17what happened?06:18
intelikeyFireHazard17 broken dpkg06:18
underdog5004bryan, http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9263/dscn0335uc0.jpg06:18
SRN9Hey anyone have issues with repos not working?06:18
intelikeycan't install can't remove06:18
underdog5004SRN9, nope06:18
Minatakuhttp://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/06/29/1613243.shtml << Apparantly, giving away your own stuff for free is against the music industry's rules as well06:18
FireHazard17that sucks06:18
SRN9Hmmm well I cant get an update for my list and everything seems fine06:19
FireHazard17wanna compile dpkg from source or just reinstall?06:19
coreymon77Minataku: what do you mean by "your own stuff"06:19
MinatakuRead the link06:19
FireHazard17like physical albums?06:19
MinatakuUsually text accompanying a link is related in some way to the content of the link06:19
FireHazard17thats not cool06:19
underdog5004!offtopic06:20
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:20
intelikeySRN9 close the package manager, open a konsole and type in; sudo apt-get update06:20
jzillaI'm a little confused here. I find no entry of Konversation in any of my "autostart" folders, and option inside of Konversation itself. However, it lauches everytime I restart. Whats the soulition here?06:20
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Minatakuunderdog5004: It's on topic since as consumers it affects us06:20
FireHazard17oh lol06:20
intelikeySRN9 that should be more revieling as to what is up.06:20
FireHazard17just read the link06:20
MinatakuPrince is going to release a free CD and the music industry is going apepoop over it06:20
dr_willisTheres a session managemenbt feature of KDE where it rembers what was open when you logged out. and it trys to restart it.06:21
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dr_willisMinataku,  Cool! i'll Buy it!06:21
SRN9thats what I tried...06:21
dr_willis:)06:21
underdog5004I would reply...but I'm not an op...do what y'all want06:21
underdog5004lol06:21
coreymon77Minataku: "apepoop" ncie censoring! :P06:21
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FireHazard17'The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behavior like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores.06:21
FireHazard17lmao06:21
Minatakucoreymon77: Heehee06:21
intelikeySRN9 what errors did you get ?06:21
dr_willisFireHazard17,  I do belive he has his own Independent Record Lable.06:21
jzilladr_willis: i am aware of the auto restart feature, however it's never open when i restart.06:21
Minatakudr_willis: Oh, still got guests?06:21
dr_willisMinataku,  yes.. so i am hiding in my room06:22
dr_willis:)06:22
dr_willisthey NEVER want to leave.06:22
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MinatakuI'm sure the music industry assumes that because he's signed to a label he's automatically their property :P06:22
Minatakudr_willis: Heh06:22
SRN9Connection refused... and- W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:22
intelikeyMinataku yep.06:22
SRN9Failedto fetch ect.06:23
intelikeySRN9 that's not an error   that's a warning    what "errors" ?06:23
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FireHazard17i think it grea that hes giving some away06:23
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intelikeySRN9 that simply means that the server was down or that the url was bad06:24
MinatakuYeah06:24
FireHazard17they are just jeous becuase this is gonna give him huge attention06:24
SRN9Hmmm to all of the repos? Main restricted Univers ect?06:24
FireHazard17i may may his new album just becuase he gave so many copies away06:25
intelikeySRN9 yeap if that's all you are getting.  then it's a network issue.  not ca configuration of apt issue.06:25
dr_willisI liked how weird al's latest cd was a dvd with videos on the flipside. :)06:25
intelikeySRN9 firewall maybe ?06:25
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bryanintelikey-how long have youran kubuntu?06:25
SRN9Hmmm, im assuming network issue on my side then.06:25
intelikeySRN9 router misconfigured ?06:26
SRN9last I checked I diodnt have one running.06:26
SRN9No router direct connect to modem.06:26
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jack_stellrium isnt working any idea why06:26
intelikeybryan  ubuntu specificaly sense hoary released. 5.4  so early 2005  linux in general   idk...06:27
intelikeybryan slackware 4.0 i think ....06:27
neonlinuxanyone know how to check the connection speed of a network card... its a gigabit card.. connected to a 100mb network..?06:27
dr_willistheres a ethtool command i think that tells ya that06:27
intelikeywhen ever that was06:28
dr_willisethtool  eth006:28
neonlinuxdr_willis: thanks06:28
intelikeybryan why do you ask ?06:28
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intelikeybryan you do know that ubuntu started with warty 4.10 then hoary 5.04 then breezy 5.10 then dapper 6.06   edgy 6.10  now fiesty 7.04    right ?06:30
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MinatakuWhat happened to < 4.10?06:31
intelikeyMinataku there is none.06:31
xkpablo4 comes from 2004 and 10 comes from october06:32
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MinatakuAh06:32
bryanwell I'm new to the kubutu06:32
intelikeyunless you can enlighten me on that point..06:32
MinatakuDate-based06:32
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bryanThe reason is that you know alot of info06:33
intelikeyi was there when the fellas started talking about making a new distro...   "i wasn't really interested then"06:33
intelikeystill not i guess....06:33
xkpablo:))06:33
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bryanis kubutu as good as the ones you payfor?06:34
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intelikeybryan i have never "paid for linux" ...  so i don't know.06:34
intelikeyin the strict sense of that phrase of course06:35
jzillaif i had to guess, id say the only thing that is "better" would be support?06:35
Ultim4T0mhi all06:35
jzillaand irc has been able to solve all my problems06:35
bryanhi06:35
FireHazard17i never have paid for linux either06:35
intelikeyjzilla what are you saying about us ???06:35
FireHazard17i have tried many diffent distros too06:35
intelikey:)06:35
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jzillayou guys own ;o06:35
FireHazard17:)06:35
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dr_willissome of the ones you pay for - include nice books/docs, and some times comerical software. :)06:36
dr_willisbut its hard to justify the cost.06:36
jzillaits easy to justify free, though.06:36
FireHazard17anyone else listen to primus?06:36
intelikeynot if you buy windows it's not doc  :)06:36
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bryanis there any games for linux that would use my vcard 7900gt to its max.06:36
UbuntuServerUserI'm having trouble with samba...I set everything up correctly. when I enter in my ip address and connect to the box, I can connect, but when  I try to click the share and it gives me generic windows error " Public is not accessible" wtf? == ALSO i can't see the box under network throught a windows GUI??? HERE is my http://pastebin.ca/59672006:37
intelikeybryan i hope not...06:37
bryany?06:37
FireHazard17nexuiz maybe06:37
dr_willisUbuntuServerUser,  ya know,. ya could clarify the question a bit. and not just repeat it over and over. :)06:37
dr_willisUbuntuServerUser,  start with a real simple samba config and work your way up I guess. Heh06:37
intelikeyany game that can display 1housands of fps .... that would just be bloat.06:37
jzillabryan: most iD games have linux clients (like doom3), alot of popular game will run with Wine or Cedega as well.06:37
FireHazard17i taled to some one with a 8800 who said he didnt turn on all the option06:37
UbuntuServerUserdr_willis lol any server where your not? letme try and be more clear06:38
FireHazard1799% were on full though06:38
dr_willisUbuntuServerUser,  this is 1 server. :) im in 3 channels.06:38
FireHazard17:P06:38
FireHazard17god i want an 880006:38
dr_willisUbuntuServerUser,  did ya see myt sample 'public' share i posted?06:38
FireHazard17not even an ultra06:38
UbuntuServerUserdr_willis yessir, looked exactly like mine06:38
UbuntuServerUserhttp://pastebin.ca/59672006:39
UbuntuServerUserhold on letme see if the debians know a thing or two06:39
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dr_williswhat i pasted did NOT look exactly like yours.. :)06:39
dr_willisif pastebin got the changes...06:39
DebianServerUserbtw pastebin.ca 10 x faster06:39
intelikeyfaster than ?06:40
DebianServerUserfirst google result of pastebin06:40
DebianServerUserthink its pastebin.com06:40
intelikeyoh that.  yeah06:40
bryanis AV neede on kubuntu?06:40
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  http://pastebin.ca/59673306:40
intelikeythere are pastebin.<put your nl code here>  for a lot of countries now.06:41
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DebianServerUserdr_willis hmmm maybe its my directory mask = 0755 vs your 070006:42
DebianServerUserwhats volume do?06:42
DebianServerUserand where are your global settings?06:42
intelikeydirectory mask ???   or permissions ?06:42
DebianServerUserintelikey know anything about samba?06:42
intelikeymask of 755 would leave it unaccessable to the owner   no?06:42
DebianServerUserahhhh06:43
intelikeyDebianServerUser no not a samba or networking fellow.06:43
bryanintelikey- is AV needed on kubuntu?06:43
intelikeybut mask generally means decreese by06:43
DebianServerUserwell than...what the hell this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5b566cc10844a160405c4c5cdecfc041&t=202605 told a 0775 switch06:43
intelikey!virus | bryan06:44
ubotubryan: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:44
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intelikeybryan it's a good read.  ^06:44
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ubuntualguem pode me dizer como ativo o desktop 3d no kubuntu06:45
ubuntu7.006:45
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bryangreat infi intelikey06:46
intelikey:)06:46
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dr_willisDebianServerUser,  thats just for file creation.06:46
DebianServerUser0700?06:46
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dr_willisThat wont be why you cant see the shares from windows.06:47
intelikey!es | ubuntu06:47
ubotuubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:47
DebianServerUserdr_willis OK let me clarify that06:48
DebianServerUserdr_willis I click run > \\ip of my server and I get logged in06:48
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DebianServerUserdr_willis however I cannot access "Public" the only share I have setup there06:48
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zouzouhi all06:48
zouzoui got a problem with the internet06:49
DebianServerUserdr_willis BUT when I go to windows networking thingy, I can't see my server's icon, its not there the usual workgroup thing06:49
intelikeyas i was saying,   a mask=777  would make an inode have perms  of  000    or  ---------   no access.    while a mask=000  would yeld   777 perms or  rwxrwxrwx06:49
DebianServerUser!question !zouzou06:49
DebianServerUser!question | zouzou06:49
ubotuzouzou: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:49
zouzouwhen i try to connect to the hotmail server, i ca't06:49
zouzoucan't connect to my email or IM06:49
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  it could be all the other settings yopu got at the start of that samba config. goofing things up. I tend to leave things real real basic.06:49
DebianServerUserOK i just restarted samba with 0700 and it doesn't work06:50
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  you DO need to set the right permissions on the Public Direcoty on the linux box for the share to work right.06:50
DebianServerUseruhh ok06:50
DebianServerUserchmod?06:50
dr_willisthe umask stuff will only be affecting file creation06:50
intelikeythat's a hotmail thing.   they use some really convoluted server settings   and while it is possable to use hotmail with linux it's not easy.06:50
dr_willisThat USing Samba book. has a example of setting up a /Public share.06:50
DebianServerUsersudo chmod 0777 /srv/public ?06:51
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dr_willisI just did a 'chmod 777 /Public'    perhaps not the best  - but it works.06:51
zouzouit wasn't like this tho intelikey06:51
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zouzouok thanx anyway06:52
intelikeyjust don't chmod 7777 it...   :)06:52
DebianServerUserwhen I'm in /srv and do ls it says "permissions denied"06:52
DebianServerUsersudo ls works06:52
intelikeyDebianServerUser ls -l /srv06:53
DebianServerUserintelikey mit is linux so anal bout everything I can't even follow this guide correctly ??? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5b566cc10844a160405c4c5cdecfc041&t=20260506:53
dr_willisdosent /srv have to be chmod 777 also?06:53
DebianServerUserOK i'lll do tht06:53
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dr_willisTheres a reason i got mine in /Public not /Somthing/Public :) heh06:53
dr_willisbut no idea if thats the problem here or not06:54
DebianServerUsershould I not chmod 777 I just did06:54
sumigamerguys what is the KDE equivalent of gdesklets??06:54
DebianServerUsergaaaaaaaaaaaaah that didn't work its still inaccessable06:54
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  you are also setting a lot of samba settings that ive NEVER had to mess with06:54
dr_willisso id say start small :) read those  books.. play with it.06:55
DebianServerUserOK dr_willis I'm going to just use your config and see what happens06:55
DebianServerUsersecondly how do I reset permissions on /srv06:55
intelikeyDebianServerUser wait just a minute.  is that just a dir on the linux system or is something mounted there ?06:55
DebianServerUser/dev/hdb1 is mounted on /srv06:56
DebianServerUsershould I smile because you figured it out ;)06:56
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intelikeythat's it.  you can't change perms on M$ file systems   they don't have any06:56
DebianServerUserhuh?06:56
intelikeywhat fs type is  /dev/hdb1 ?06:57
DebianServerUserext306:57
intelikeythen that's not it06:57
intelikeyok carry on.06:57
DebianServerUserok imma do willi's config, but how do I reset permissions on /srv06:58
intelikeysame way you set it06:58
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  http://pastebin.ca/596754   - my full config06:58
intelikeychmod 755 /srv06:58
DebianServerUser755 is always default?06:59
dr_willisnormally06:59
intelikeynot always but on most things06:59
sumigamerguys what is the KDE equivalent of gdesklets??06:59
dr_willis!info karamba06:59
ubotukaramba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB06:59
dr_willis!info superkaramba06:59
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB06:59
bryanhow to install nexuiz06:59
DebianServerUserI can still ls it w/o sudo06:59
DebianServerUserw/e06:59
dr_willissudo ing on a samba share? huh?07:00
sumigamerthanks for that....07:00
intelikeyyou can decypher that can't you ?   7 is octal form of the three digit binary perm  111  or rwx  as the digits corespond07:00
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evsophomore2009!Wine07:01
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ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:01
evsophomore2009#wine07:01
intelikeyso then 755 is 111101101 or rwxr-xr-x07:01
intelikey/join #wine07:02
bryan?07:02
intelikey!find nexuiz07:03
ubotuFound: nexuiz, nexuiz-data, nexuiz-music, nexuiz-server07:03
intelikey!info nexuiz07:03
ubotunexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB07:03
intelikeybryan package manager install07:03
evsophomore2009anyone know why i cant use iTunes with WINE?07:03
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intelikeycause you left shoe laces it pulled too tight ?07:04
intelikeyerrr maybe not.07:04
evsophomore2009Seriously07:04
evsophomore2009like this is annoying me07:04
navetshow can i burn an .avi to be played on a regular dvd player07:04
dr_willissorry we are not Wine experts in here.07:04
DebianServerUserdr_willis cuople qusetions, 1 what should I change volume to, and what is auto services = willis Public homes mean?07:04
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  still aint read those books yet eh> :)07:05
intelikeyevsophomore2009 i really don't know... sorry07:05
evsophomore2009whats the wine channel?07:05
dr_willisauto services are ones shown in the /workgroup/pcname/STUFF automaticially07:05
DebianServerUser:( lol sorry have had a chance yet07:05
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dr_willisthat saves me some time.  my user (willis) share is always shown, as is Public07:05
intelikey!transcode07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
dr_willishomes is not really needed I guess. :)07:05
intelikey!info transcode07:05
ubotutranscode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2379 kB, installed size 5496 kB07:05
DebianServerUserk idk what that does so i'mma just comment it out07:05
dr_willisvolume is not really imporntant either.07:06
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  have it auto service the shares you WANT to use. can save some time07:06
intelikeynavets maybe with transcode ???07:06
dr_willisthey dont have to get scanned.07:06
DebianServerUserdr_willis, shares, so for me that would be /srv/public or just public?07:07
intelikey!dvd07:07
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:07
intelikeynavets maybe those links will help ^07:07
dr_willisI used Public - since thats the share name     [Public] 07:08
dr_willis07:08
DebianServerUsercaps matter in linux?07:08
underdog5004oh yeah!07:08
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  in Linux yes.. In samba. not so much.07:08
intelikeyabsoultely07:08
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dr_willisSamba/network neighborhood tends to UPPERCASE the share/workgroup names07:09
evsophomore2009anyone know the Wine Channel? #wine dosent work07:09
bryanintelikey- using kpackage now what?07:09
dr_willis!wine07:09
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:09
dr_willisHmm !wine-hq perhaps?07:09
dr_willisHmm #wine-hq perhaps?07:09
dr_willisI imagine theres several google hits on wine + itunes07:09
intelikey/join #winehq07:09
intelikeyor is it -hq07:10
intelikey???07:10
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DebianServerUser:( I restarted samba, tried to connect to ip, same deal, can see folder public but can't acces07:10
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arunis there an equivalent to parallels for ubuntu07:10
dr_willisat least you can see it now DebianServerUser07:11
dr_willisarun,  there are several virtual-machine toolks out for linux.07:11
dr_willisvmware, virtualbox, qemu07:11
intelikeybryan just find and install.    i never used kpackage so i can't guide you there.07:11
arundr_willis: which do you recommend?07:11
dr_willisarun,  try them all..07:11
dr_willisuse what works best for you07:11
DebianServerUserdr_willis dr_willis, thats a negative, in windows networking still have to manually connect ot it via run//192.168.1.10807:12
dr_willisI USE vmware mainly07:12
intelikeybryan adept has a search feature   i assume kpackage does too07:12
DebianServerUserdr_willis wins isn't working07:12
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  check your workgroups?07:12
bryanwhat do you recommend07:12
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  i never have had tomess with wins. :)07:12
arundr_willis: can i download vmware using adept?07:12
intelikeybryan what ever you like.07:12
^V^bryan: just stick with adept07:12
intelikeyi use the command line.   apt-get install blah    but what ever likes you most07:13
DebianServerUserWTF? I just opened /etc/samba.conf and its the same as last time....hold on07:13
^V^until you get confortable enough with the commandline07:13
intelikeyyou don't get that by staying away from it tho07:13
intelikey:)07:13
arundr_willis: what should i install? vmware player?07:13
^V^:) yes, but start with the basics first07:14
^V^cd ls, etc07:14
intelikey!cli07:14
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:14
dr_willisarun,  i alway  get vmware SERVER07:14
bryanok using adept my file in on desktop now what?07:14
DebianServerUsernvm screwed up saving it...stupid CLI07:14
^V^bryan: what do you mean by file is on desktop? what are you trying to install?07:15
DebianServerUserdr_willis it works ;)07:15
arundr_willis: where exactly do i get that from07:15
bryannexuiz game07:15
^V^search for nexuiz in adept07:15
intelikeyyeah cp rm mkdir chmod and the like... the basics     oh and iptables modprobe and dpkg     but lets not forget to pipe all that through  | grep blah | less  so we can read it.07:15
bryanI downloaded on n saved on desktop07:15
^V^bryan: you will find a lot of software you might need already in the ubuntu repositories07:16
^V^so you won't need to manually download it in most cases07:16
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arun!qemu07:16
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo07:16
intelikey!repos | bryan07:17
ubotubryan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:17
bryanadept show 4 files on bottom now what do I do07:18
^V^take nexuiz07:18
^V^and it should install all dependencies for you07:18
DebianServerUserdr_willis still can't see under network, but I can now open public HOWEVER i can't write anything to it :( how dumb07:18
allan__Kubuntu is too heavy for my laptop.. how can I make it faster?07:18
^V^allan__: heavy as in space or heavy as in performance?07:19
bryanit show not installed07:19
dr_willisDebianServerUser,    you are using my Exact same samba config?07:19
^V^bryan: pick it for install07:19
allan__heavy as in it always hangs07:19
^V^allan__: that is not normal07:19
xkpabloyep07:19
^V^what do you mean by hangs? keyboard or mouse works?07:19
allan__things work but whenever I open too many apps, kubuntu freezes07:20
DebianServerUserdr_willis, aside from changing my workgroup and path and commenting out homes and deleting printers and prting yes07:20
dr_willisthat sounds like a X driver issue.07:20
DebianServerUserwonderful07:20
dr_willismake some files in your Public share - seeif you can see them.07:20
DebianServerUserk07:20
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dr_willisif you cant Write to that dir.. its proberly a permission issue on the dir.07:21
^V^allan__: can you give an example of what too many apps is?07:21
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DebianServerUserdr_willis, nope I can create files, just saved a test.txt AND can see it in windows07:22
allan__sorry if I did not explain it well.. my laptop hangs whenever I have konqueror, amarok, adept, kerry, kopete, opera etc running07:22
DebianServerUserI did that on the serv er07:22
allan__most especially whenenever amarok's osd comes out07:22
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allan__i think it's too heavy for me processors07:22
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  but the client cant write to the share?07:22
allan__I mean, processor without an "s"07:22
^V^maybe it's amarok? have you tried running for a while without amarok?07:22
DebianServerUserthats correct07:22
^V^allan__: what system specs?07:22
DebianServerUserdr_willis I need permissiosn to delete test.txt though07:22
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  sounds like a permission issue on the Public dir to me.. but could be some other little issue07:23
allan__512mb ram.. 1.5 ghz intel celeron M07:23
^V^I think that  should be fine07:23
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  so from windows.. you can access the Linux Public share.. and  Make a file - but not delete it?07:23
allan__you think my hardware is enough?07:23
DebianServerUserdr_willis I need permissions to delete text.txt on windows box too07:23
michelehelp guys!!! if im connected to te net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure07:24
^V^allan__: how long does it take to hang usually?07:24
allan__before, it was hanging every after about 30 mins07:24
DebianServerUserdr_willis, negative, I can create files w/o permissions on public ON THE UBUNTU SERVER VIA CLI but can't delete it without sudo07:24
DebianServerUserdr_willis all I can do on the windows box is read...no write what soever07:24
allan__when I turned of amarok's OSD, it hanged after about an hour. maybe because I opened adept07:25
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^V^allan__: what graphics card?07:25
allan__it's a generic intel graphics card07:25
^V^are you running 3d desktop?07:25
allan__no07:26
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dr_willisDebianServerUser,  good luck. its bed time for me..07:26
michelehelp guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure07:26
DebianServerUserdr_willis thank you so muc hfor you help drj07:26
dr_willisDebianServerUser,  you may want to check out that 'fusesmb' stuff also. :) its handy07:26
^V^allan__: how do you know the system hangs?07:26
DebianServerUserthanks alot!!! imma go read that07:26
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arundr_willis: is vmware server fast? what is the lag time like? can i run any windows application?07:27
allan__I can't move the mouse pointer07:27
^V^allan__: keyboard work?07:27
^V^applications/music continues to play?07:27
allan__they stop07:28
allan__keyboard shortcuts dont work07:28
allan__sometimes, things work after a wait.. but it takes more than 5 mins for things to be in normal condition again07:28
^V^so any animations and music stops?07:29
allan__the screen freezes07:29
arundr_willis: also, is it easy to set up windows using vmware? can i share files between windows (vmware) and linux? if i am already running a dual boot, can i run my existing windows installation through vmware?07:29
^V^allan__: so it can resume working after a while? always the case?07:29
allan__it's always the case07:29
micheleKubuntu help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure07:29
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^V^I mean, can it always resume after a while?07:30
allan__but most of the time, I don't wait.. I just force power off07:30
^V^okay07:30
^V^doesn't sound like a complete 'hang' then07:30
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allan__yeah.. maybe, it's more of a 'lag'07:30
^V^do you notice if you have any harddisk activity?07:30
Armadilliohey guys how can i make my clock in the corner say something like "2:20 PM" because I'm not liking the military time and want the other kind of time to show up07:30
^V^during the hang?07:30
allan__none07:30
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^V^Armadillio: right-click and adjust date time format07:31
^V^on clock that is07:31
micheleKubuntu help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure07:32
allan__is there a way for me to make kde faster without using pure KDE?07:32
^V^allan__: I don't think that is necessarily a speed problem07:32
^V^It certainly shouldn't hang like that, but feel sluggish the whole time07:32
allan__so what can I do to avoid the lag?07:33
^V^allan__: I don't think its necessarily lag either07:33
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allan__ohh.. so what could it be?07:33
^V^When it hangs,, does your CPU activity light show anything?07:33
allan__is it a ram issue?07:33
allan__I'm using a laptop07:33
^V^No activity light?07:34
allan__I don't notice the cpu light07:34
^V^Are you running it from battery?07:34
allan__is that light you are referring to, the blinking LED?07:34
allan__I am using a battery but my laptop is plugged07:35
^V^possibly, there might be one for harddisk and one for cpu07:35
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allan__right now, only one LED is lit07:35
allan__the symbol of the LED is a cylinder but I do not know what it means07:36
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^V^allan__: type `cat /proc/cpuinfo`07:36
ubunturosallan__: that probably is that of your hdd07:36
^V^allan__: that means harddisk07:36
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^V^what does it say for cpu speed?07:36
allan__cpu MHz         : 1492.77507:37
sumigamerguys amarok cant play an Mp3....it says no Mp3 support is present, and then it hangs. whats the deal???07:37
allan__model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.50GHz07:37
purpleposeidon!mp307:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:37
^V^okay07:37
michelesumigamer, you need to use adept manager to download the mp3 codecs for amarok07:37
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purpleposeidonATFB!07:38
sumigamermichele, how do I find the codecs in adept??07:39
sumigamerbut firsts, amarok is still freezed, how do i quit it??07:39
michelewhen that error appears I think it tells you the name. if you download vlc player it seems to bring down heaps of codecs that amarok can use07:40
sumigameryeah but how do I quit this amarok?07:40
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michelewhen it freezes just wait a while and you should get the option to terminate it07:40
sumigameri didnt get any option07:41
allan__what is vanilla kde?  is it a fast kde?07:41
^V^sumigamer: did you click on the cross to close?07:41
micheleit takes a couple of minutes for an option box to appear07:41
sumigamerthe whole window has greyed out. i clicked on the cross and even from the tray but nothing happened07:42
^V^allan__: I seriously don't think it is a KDE issue07:42
^V^sumigamer: `killall amarok`07:42
micheleunplug the pc !07:42
^V^allan__: you can try install xubuntu-desktop and see if it doesn't hang there07:42
allan__Actually, xubuntu works well for me07:43
^V^It should be faster than kde07:43
^V^but I think it could be some hardware/driver issue07:43
allan__I just prefer KDE that's why I am looking for ways to making kde faster07:43
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^V^allan__: is KDE reasonably responsive during normal use?07:43
alyI need some help07:44
allan__it is07:44
^V^so it doesn't look like a speed issue then07:44
allan__right now, it's reasonably fast07:44
allan__what can I do, then?07:44
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^V^What do you do right before it crashes?07:44
alytools/convconf.c:99: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function strchr07:44
alyi am just trying to compile a psybnc07:45
^V^aly: do you get any compiler errors?07:45
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morph_hailz07:45
alydont think so07:46
morph_anyone get the iPhone here :)07:46
^V^aly: so what is the problem then?07:46
allan__last time, my laptop was freezing whenever amarok's osd comes out07:46
^V^allan__: so even 5 minutes after you start the system and load amarok?07:46
alyit wont compile07:46
alyyou want me to paste you the whole thing?07:46
^V^aly: pastebin please07:46
morph_just installed 7.10 tribe 207:47
morph_running good07:47
alydone07:47
allan__at first, whenever the OSD comes out, there is no problem, but after about 30 mins, then when the osd pops, my laptop freezes07:47
^V^allan__: BTW, what version of kubuntu do you use?07:47
morph_wonder if i should mess with beryl07:47
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allan__feisty07:48
^V^allan__: did you upgrade?07:48
aly^V^: pasted it07:48
michelesorry guys ... kubuntu help!! easy one, konversation works but not konqeror, is there somewhere I should configure it07:48
allan__nope.. it's a clean feisty install07:48
^V^aly: url?07:48
allan__I reformatted for feisty07:48
^V^allan__: I was wondering if edgy worked okay for you?07:48
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aly^V^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27912/07:48
allan__it was okay07:49
morph_is there a good mac style dock for kubuntu?07:50
fildo!ntp07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
^V^allan__: before a crash, do you puyt a lot of strain on the system or is it mostly idle?07:50
fildo!time07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
morph_i tried kiba dock but it was laggy07:50
allan__It freezes whenever I open something new like whenever I install an app07:51
aly^V^: Did you get the link ?07:51
allan__not when its idle07:51
^V^aly: have you compiled any C code before?07:51
aly^V^: Not really i am just trying to follow the README file07:51
^V^aly: can you type `gcc --version` in the shell?07:52
alyyou want me to paste the reply in pastebin ^V^?07:52
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^V^does it say a version?07:52
aly^V^: gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)07:53
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^V^aly: have you tried to read http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/bnc/ ?07:54
alythats exactly what im following07:54
alymake menuconfig is what i typed07:54
^V^aly: did you install ncurses?07:54
alyncurses07:54
alywhats that ?07:55
^V^allan__: so if you let the PC just sit there idling, will it hang?07:55
alywhere do i get that from07:55
allan__it will not07:55
^V^aly: try `sudo apt-get install ncurses`07:56
^V^allan__: if you open all those apps and not use the PC for a while, will it hang?07:56
allan__it wont07:56
allan__only if I do so many activities07:57
alyPackage ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:57
allan__I think, I need lighter software to run on this laptop07:57
^V^allan__: I told you, KDE shouldn't cause it to hang at all07:57
^V^aly: can you look in adept for ncurses?07:58
alyi can try07:58
allan__what can I do to avoid the freezing, ^V^07:58
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^V^allan__: that's what I'm trying to figure out :)07:59
seven Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? how do i fix this again07:59
^V^allan__: try to reboot and change your boot options to include "noacpi acpi=off noapic nolapic" at the end (without quotes)08:00
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allan__^V^, in my laptop, the usb does not work without me using irqpoll as a boot option.. could it be a factor?08:01
^V^allan__: possibly08:01
^V^did you have to do that in edgy also?08:01
allan__yes08:01
seven Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? how do i fix this again08:01
allan__in all distros that I have tried, I needed irqpoll08:02
^V^allan__: can you try those options?08:02
^V^aly: try to install ncurses-bin08:02
allan__okay.. I just edited my menu.lst.. I'm rebooting now08:03
allan__I'm just curious, what do those boot options do?08:03
^V^allan__: you could havbe made it temporary in the boot at startup08:03
^V^in the grub menu08:04
^V^what usb devices?08:04
allan__I know... it's just easier for me to edit menu.lst because its just copy paste08:04
allan__my laptop does not detect any usb device without irqpoll08:05
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^V^what devices you use though?08:05
allan__scanner, flash drive, printer, usb mouse08:05
allan__right now, no usb device is plugged so the usb devices are not the reason for the freeze08:06
^V^not even mouse?08:06
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aly^V^: For somereason it was the c++ compiler  reinstalled it and the bnc worked like a charm thanks alot !08:06
sumigamerwhenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??08:07
^V^aly: what do you mean exactly?08:07
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alythe c++ compiler was messed up i think  downloaded the newer version of it and make menuconfig worked.08:07
sumigamerwhenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??08:08
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^V^aly: what do you mean you downloaded a new version? from the repositories?08:08
alyaly@AMistry:~/psybnc$ sudo apt-get install g++-3.408:08
alyg++ i guess08:08
^V^aly: that is an older version actually08:08
alyis it08:08
evsophomore2009anyone good with Firefox?08:09
alywell it worked heh08:09
sumigamerwhenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??08:09
^V^try `sudo apt-get install build-essential`08:09
^V^sumigamer: no need to keep asking, someone might know and let you know the answer08:09
^V^sumigamer: you m ight also want to try install build-essential08:10
alyhow do i view the background services running i forgot the command for it08:10
^V^ps?08:10
alythats it !08:11
^V^!ps08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
alythanks ^V^08:11
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evsophomore2009Firefox Problems...Can anyone Help?08:11
sonoftheclayrevsophomore2009: what are the problems?08:12
^V^evsophomore2009: it would help if you stated what they are...we are not mind readers08:12
evsophomore2009sorry hehe08:12
evsophomore2009anyways, when i go to a website other than google it shutsdown automatically08:12
evsophomore2009i get this message when i open it using the Terminal08:12
^V^evsophomore2009: any website or one in particular?08:12
evsophomore2009The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.08:13
evsophomore2009This probably reflects a bug in the program.08:13
evsophomore2009The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.08:13
evsophomore2009  (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)08:13
sonoftheclayrevsophomore2009: have you tried it in safe mode yet?08:13
evsophomore2009  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;08:13
evsophomore2009   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.08:13
evsophomore2009   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line08:13
evsophomore2009   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful08:13
evsophomore2009   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)08:13
evsophomore2009i know Pastebin08:13
evsophomore2009no how do i run it in safemode?08:13
^V^evsophomore2009: pastebin please!!!08:13
sonoftheclayrevsophomore2009: use firefox -safe-mode08:14
sumigameri have downloaded that 9MB firefox archive from the official website and unpacked it, but what next??08:14
evsophomore2009Still closes08:14
sonoftheclayrevsophomore2009: alright, we could assume that it is not an extentsion causing the problems08:15
sonoftheclayrevsophomore2009: is it the version in the repos?08:15
evsophomore2009So could you kinda sorta maybe help me out? I looove firefox, but unfortunally it closes way to much to use08:15
^V^sumigamer: you don't need to download firefox like that, check adept and search for firefox08:15
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^V^evsophomore2009: what extensions have you got installed?08:15
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evsophomore2009How do i check the extensions that i have installed08:16
^V^tools->addons08:16
sumigamer^V^, will I get the latest firefox if I search adept?/08:17
^V^sumigamer: you will get the latest ubuntu packaged version08:17
evsophomore2009there isnt any Extensions08:17
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arunhow do i open files from my ubuntu in windows/vmware? if i create a file using windows/vmware, where can i save it?08:18
sumigamerwhen i searched for thunderbird, i got the 1.5 version. People tell me that you should compile from source to get the latest version.08:18
arunif i am online on linux, will i be online using windows/vmware as well?08:18
^V^sumigamer: don't bother unless you *really* need the latest08:19
sumigamersome extensions work only on the latest...08:19
evsophomore2009^V^: I dont have any Extions installed08:19
^V^evsophomore2009: so you open google and it doesn't crash?08:20
evsophomore2009nope08:20
^V^what about ubuntu.com?08:20
evsophomore2009Nope that works08:21
^V^okay08:21
sumigameradept doesnt tell me which version I am installing....08:21
^V^so its not just any page that causes a crash08:21
^V^sumigamer: it should if you expand the program name08:22
evsophomore2009no mainly a page with Flash//Video//Media08:22
sumigamer^V^, it doesnt08:22
^V^evsophomore2009: in firefox go to about:plugins08:22
evsophomore2009kay done08:22
^V^evsophomore2009: pastebin the file?08:23
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arunanyone here use vmware?08:24
intelikeymy bash is broke.08:24
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^V^sumigamer: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion, it might help08:24
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intelikeymy bash hurts !08:24
neonlinuxintelikey: u bashed it too hard??08:24
intelikeyneonlinux i guess so....   copy and paste into a console breaks lines in funny way and doesn't accept the whole paste08:25
^V^evsophomore2009: I have to go, but try uninstall flash plugins and any others and see if firefox still crashes08:25
evsophomore2009okay08:25
evsophomore2009thanks for your time08:25
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neonlinuxis this plain text... try from a kwrite08:26
micheleKubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!08:26
sumigamerwhen i try to configure superkaramba, it says that it cant find X includes, and to check the installation and the correct paths08:26
fdovingsumigamer: you need the pakcage 'xorg-dev'08:26
evsophomore2009Can Anyone Help Me Out With My Firefox Problem'08:27
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intelikeyi should be able to; cat file   copy and paste the content into a console  but this file breaks it...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3780908:27
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arunevsophomore2009: what's the problem08:27
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alywhere do i get the osx theme "engage" from ubuntu from?08:28
neonlinuxintelikey: is that what your pasting into ur console?08:29
michelerossco, do you know how to setup konqueror, im stuck08:29
evsophomore2009arun: when i open any website with Media//Flash//VIdoes ect... it closes and gives me this error08:29
evsophomore2009I KNOW PASTEBIN DOSENT WORK!08:30
evsophomore2009The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.08:30
evsophomore2009This probably reflects a bug in the program.08:30
evsophomore2009The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.08:30
evsophomore2009  (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)08:30
evsophomore2009  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;08:30
evsophomore2009   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.08:30
evsophomore2009   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line08:30
evsophomore2009   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful08:30
evsophomore2009   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)08:30
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: run firefox from terminal... that may give more info when running08:31
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Daisuke_Ido!paste | evsophomore200908:31
ubotuevsophomore2009: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:31
evsophomore2009i knoooow08:32
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evsophomore2009it dosent work Daisuke_ldo08:32
micheleKubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!08:32
evsophomore2009umm yeah so thats what i get when i open it with the terminal08:32
crdlbevsophomore2009, yes it does08:32
Daisuke_Idoit works just fine08:32
Daisuke_Idoand it not working is NOT an excuse for flooding the channel08:32
evsophomore2009not on my computer because im having problems if anyone wouild read08:32
evsophomore2009Daisuke_ldo: okay w/e dont get an attitude with me08:33
crdlbevsophomore2009, try a different browser08:33
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Daisuke_Idouse konqueror then.08:33
crdlbbut don't ever paste in the channel08:33
evsophomore2009okay w/e not my problem08:33
Daisuke_Idoyes, yes it IS your problem, you're the one that did it.08:33
michelecalm down boys, we're on the same side08:34
Daisuke_Idobut moving on...08:34
evsophomore2009Neonlinux: thats the error i get when i open it from the terminal08:34
janhansZkoum,co to dl,tak sory08:35
Guilty_as_Sinis #ubuntu-effects gone?08:35
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Guilty_as_Sinnm08:35
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Guilty_as_Sin(typo in channel list I guess)08:35
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ati graphics card?08:35
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janhansI not englich08:35
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evsophomore2009neonlinux: so my graphics card could be the problem why firefox closes for no reason?08:36
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neonlinuxsome posts online are saying thay you may need to disable the compisite extension in your xorg.conf...08:36
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evsophomore2009oooh...Yeah about that, a long time ago before firefox, someone told me to do that and i had to get a new computer08:37
evsophomore2009I completely screwed it over08:37
evsophomore2009So i really dont wanna screw with xorg.config08:37
neonlinuxthere is a way to do it without screwing it over08:38
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evsophomore2009Neonlinux: well if you know exactly what your doing (Not saying your dumb) but i think you get me where im kinda scared08:40
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: lol.. i never used to know what i was doing.. i just had a hack at it.. if it broke.. i re-installed and remembered not to do it again.. just the way i learnt stuff.. anyway.. i have to do this in my xorg file and it works..08:41
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: easiest way is to first back up ur config file08:41
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: so for example "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/ur-user"08:42
evsophomore2009wow confusing08:43
neonlinuxthat way if it doesnt work.. all you have to do to make it right again is "sudo cp /home/ur-user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"08:43
neonlinuxall thats doing is copying the file08:43
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neonlinuxbasically.. breaking down the command its copy /the/file/ur/copying.conf /to/where/u/want/it/copied/to08:44
evsophomore2009it didnt work08:44
neonlinuxwhat error?08:44
evsophomore2009No such file or directory08:45
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: what exactly did u type?08:45
evsophomore2009sudo cp /home/ur-user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/08:45
neonlinuxfirst u want to make a back up.. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/ur-username/08:46
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: are u using the firefox from the repos?08:47
evsophomore2009what? im lost...firefox from the repos/>08:47
evsophomore2009*repos?08:47
Linux_GaloreJust installed the second release of Gutsy....... dude serious speed improvements over Feisty08:47
neonlinuxhow did u install firefox?08:47
arunevsophomore2009: from where did you install firefox08:47
arunanyone here use vmware?08:48
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neonlinuxarun: havent in a while08:48
neonlinuxLinux_Galore: how much faster?08:48
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neonlinuxLinux_Galore: what kernel version?08:49
arunneonlinux: would you mind answering some of my questions regd. vmware server?08:49
neonlinuxarun: it was ages ago.. but ill see what i can do08:50
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: well ktorrent now hits 500K when the best before was 120k, large file transfers are up around 36MB/s were before I was hard up getting 9MB/s08:50
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: 2.6.2208:50
neonlinuxLinux_Galore: what network card do u ahve?08:51
evsophomore2009Arun: umm apt-get08:51
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: rtl813908:51
arunneonlinux: how do i open files from my ubuntu in windows/vmware? if i create a file using windows/vmware, where can i save it?08:51
arunneonlinux: if i am online on linux, will i be online using windows/vmware as well?08:51
micheleKubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!08:51
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: so u used apt-get to install firefox?08:52
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: the transfers are disk transfers from my internal to an external usb2 backup unit08:52
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neonlinuxLinux_Galore: ok.. i have 8169.. has issues. .waiting for proper driver support08:52
evsophomore2009yes i did08:52
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Linux_Galoreneonlinux: still stuffs up my resolution though and I have to run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver thing08:53
arunhow do i get kubuntu to not smooth console-type fonts08:53
neonlinuxarun: the online part.. u should be... it should see the nic as connected.. as for transfering files... make a network share using samba and then in the virtual machine save it to the share08:53
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok... flash plugins installed?08:53
arunneonlinux: how do i make a network share using samba?08:54
neonlinuxLinux_Galore: ok... driver support?08:54
evsophomore2009neonlinux: how do i find out? on firefox on the URL bar i type in About:plugins and every single plugin is installed08:54
neonlinuxarun: in konqueror u should be able to right click on a directory and enable sharing08:54
arunneonlinux: alright, so how do i navigate to that directory from windows/vmware?08:55
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. sounds like plugins are installed... im searching around atm.. so far it seems that u need to add the line to xorg.conf08:55
abonnemaHi all08:55
neonlinuxarun: brows the network08:55
neonlinuxarun: look for your linux box08:56
evsophomore2009neonlinux: okay whenever you find out and are ready to help me with that process just let me know :008:56
evsophomore2009* :)08:56
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok :)08:56
arunneonlinux: alright, thanks :) what is the lag like in vmware? is it considerably slower than running windows independently/08:57
arunneonlinux: will i be able to run apps like photoshop at good speeds?08:57
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neonlinuxarun: i used it ages ago (back in the days when an athlon 750 and 256 mb of ram was the bomb.. it was sluggish... these days i would imagine that its alot better.. .there is also another vm app called parallels.. that works pretty nicely08:59
herowhat version of ubuntu is feisty?08:59
evsophomore20097.06 i believe08:59
abonnema7.0408:59
niranj70408:59
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7760.html sound similar?08:59
evsophomore20097.04 thats it09:00
herothank you09:00
abonnemawhy?09:00
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evsophomore2009Yep sure does09:01
evsophomore2009So is it the xorg-config?09:01
michelecud someone please answer a simple question about konqueror.....09:02
evsophomore2009Michele: maybe i can help09:02
arunneonlinux: isn't parallels only for os x?09:03
michelethanks, konversation works, but konqueror can't find servers09:03
neonlinuxarun: there is a version for linux... im holding out for parallels 3 for linux.. im hoping for directx support09:03
abonnemaMichele: you are in arn't you?09:04
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: sounds like it09:04
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evsophomore2009Okay well show me what to do. :)09:04
michelein sydney09:04
evsophomore2009Please09:04
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: yeah, driver support is fine09:04
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: all my plugin stuff works09:05
arunneonlinux: costs $5009:05
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: to be honest Im finding the experience with Gutsy better than Feisty/Edgy09:05
abonnemaMichele: no i meant: what do you mean, can't find servers: you are in, aren't you?09:05
michelewhats ar'nt09:05
arunneonlinux: also, will i be able to use external hard drives that work only with windows?09:05
neonlinuxarun: the only sucky part.. it costs... but ill be able to finally nuke my windows partition and run directx games in linux :)09:06
abonnemaMichele: a typo: aren't or are not09:06
micheleoh ok, i get "Could not connect to host"09:06
neonlinuxLinux_Galore: uve almost convinded me to install it :)09:06
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok... whats ur user name on ur system?09:06
abonnemamichele: are you working from a different machine now?09:06
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evsophomore2009mike09:07
tenerifedavehello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?09:07
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: the extra speed is whats amazing me, almost like they fixed a serious IO bug thats been hanging around09:07
abonnemamichele: is your internet connection working with your browser?09:07
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok... type the following "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/mike/09:07
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neonlinuxLinux_Galore: yay :)09:07
evsophomore2009kay umm i think it worked09:07
Linux_Galoreneonlinux: addint java/flash/codecs was a total no brainer09:08
Linux_Galoreadding*09:08
michelei've got a new kubuntu install with dial up. kppp worked fine, konvesation works. konqeror can't find the internet port i think ?09:08
arunneonlinux: also, will i be able to use external hard drives that work only with windows? also, say i'm running photoshop, will the temp files be stored in the vmware directory or in swap?09:08
evsophomore2009it kinda just asked for my password, and a new line opend...like it was ready for a new command09:08
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: check by going to your home folder and making sure the file is there09:08
Linux_Galorejust have to figure ut how I get the channels to view as tabs in Konversation09:09
Linux_Galoreout*09:09
abonnemaMichele: It sounds like your internet connection is not working: are you working from your new installation now?09:09
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neonlinuxarun: i think they would be able to be used.. and im not sure about photoshop09:09
evsophomore2009xorg-config is there, so yep it worked09:09
micheleim using the machine where konversation works, but not konqueror09:09
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: xorg-config or xorg.conf?09:09
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evsophomore2009xorg.conig09:10
micheleyes, the new installation09:10
^V^michele: does firefox work?09:10
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arunneonlinux: thank you so much for all your help09:10
abonnemaMichele: if Konversation works and Konqueror does not work, than internet works, but your installation can not find the DSN.09:10
neonlinuxarun: sorry i cant be more helpful.. it has been ages09:11
abonnemaMichele: look into your internet config and find out whether you filled in the name server.09:11
micheleim just downloading firefox with adept manager, then will try it09:11
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:11
arunneonlinux: no, it's alright.. vmware server is almost downloaded, will install it now09:11
michelewhere do i find that09:11
abonnemaMichele: If Konqueror does not work, neither will firefox.09:11
neonlinuxarun: cool.... Linux_Galore: gonna start downloading gutsy09:11
evsophomore2009G Get Help            ^O WriteOut            ^R Read File           ^Y Prev Page           ^K Cut Text            ^C Cur Pos09:12
evsophomore2009^X Exit                ^J Justify             ^W Where Is            ^V Next Page           ^U UnCut Text          ^T To Spell09:12
arunwhat animal is gutsy09:12
abonnemaMichele: however, if you are using adept_manager successfully, I don't know what the problem is.09:12
evsophomore2009Thats what i got09:12
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^V^gibbon09:12
arunah09:12
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: there should be text in the file09:12
arunis that some sort of primate?09:12
tenerifedavehello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?09:12
^V^I believe so09:12
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^V^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon09:13
evsophomore2009umm theres alot of text09:13
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. press ctrl+x09:13
evsophomore2009kay done09:13
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. you should now be back at the command line09:13
michelei looked all through the konqeror configuration but cudn't find anything. maybe konqueror can't work with dial up?09:13
evsophomore2009yep i am09:13
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heromichele: why wouldn't it?09:14
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. thats the text editor called nano.. ctrl+x allows you to exit the program.. when you make changes to the file it will ask if you want to save before exiting... thats just extra info so you know whats going on.. ok..09:14
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evsophomore2009Kay09:15
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: type sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:15
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: and once in there go right to the bottom of the page by pressing page down09:15
michelehero, thats a very good question09:15
downstairs /join #cyprus09:15
heroi figure if you have a ppp link up, it should work09:15
evsophomore2009Command not found09:15
herobut it does sound puzzling09:16
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: opps.. i meant sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:16
abonnemaMichele: did you try entering a direct ip-address? I suspect you have not configured a name server for your ISP connection09:16
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micheledo yo mean a direct ip address for my isp?09:16
^V^michele: try go to 64.233.187.9909:16
herofor anything09:17
evsophomore2009Okay im confused09:17
^V^that's google.com09:17
evsophomore2009im back at the same screen i was at before you told me CTRL+X09:17
abonnemaMichele: try entering: http://209.132.177.50/ into konqueror (thats the IP address for www.redhat.com09:17
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: yep... now go right down to the bottom of the file by pressing page down key09:17
evsophomore2009kay im at the bottem09:17
evsophomore2009it says End Section09:18
micheleok, where do i find the place to enter it ?09:18
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. now the next stuff you need to type is case sensitive09:18
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^V^wherever you enter the website address09:18
evsophomore2009okay09:18
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: press enter to go to a new line09:18
abonnemaMichele: just click on the blue http-address that I entered, Konqueror should open automatically09:18
evsophomore2009neonlinux: wait, it wont let me go to a new line09:19
evsophomore2009it just goes down one line, but not a new command line thing09:19
abonnemaMichele: if this works and entering www.redhat.com does not work, than its definitely the nameserver09:19
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: thats right... ur text cursor should be on a blank line09:20
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michelei got Could not connect to host http://209.132.177.50/09:20
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evsophomore2009oh okay done09:20
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michelewhere should i enter the name server09:21
abonnemaMIchele: weird, I clicked on both www.redhat.com and http://209.132.177.50/ and both appeared as the same screen.09:21
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. so the last line of text should say EndSection.. then a blank line.. then the line your text cursor is on right?09:21
micheleoh oh !09:21
evsophomore2009yep09:21
abonnemaMichele: as your Konversation works, then at least a direct IP address in your browser should also work.09:21
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abonnemaMichele: What error message did you get?09:22
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. next thing i msg type exactly... for the spaces press the tab key09:22
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: Section "Extensions"09:22
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: case sensitive09:23
evsophomore2009wait, so type in Extensions or Section "Ectensions"09:23
micheleguess what.... i downloaded firefox and it works09:23
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: dont write the case senstitve bit..09:23
abonnemaMichele: Okee,09:23
michele;-)  :-)09:24
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: exactly as i wrote it..... Section "Extensions"09:24
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evsophomore2009than press TAB?09:24
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michelemaybe somewhere in the lower machinery of konqueror it can't find the net through kppp ?09:25
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: hang on a sec.. that one actually uses a space.. the tabs are for the next line... so it will be...... Section<SPACEBAR>"Extensions"09:26
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abonnemaMichele: if firefox works, just use it. I suspect that konqueror needs configuration09:26
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: after typing.... Section "Extensions" press enter to go to a new line09:26
micheleok i will, thanks !09:26
evsophomore2009kay done with that09:26
abonnemaMIchele: okee, see ya09:27
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok.. on this new line the spaces are tabs.. type the following09:27
micheleabonnema, btw, where r u ?09:27
abonnemaMichele: the netherlands09:27
neonlinuxevsophomore2009:        Option      "Composite"      "Disable"09:28
micheleim sydney. cheers and thanks09:28
abonnemaMichele: Must be late over there?09:28
abonnemaMichele: is 9:30 in the morning here09:28
micheleits 17:23, we're just having a beer09:29
evsophomore2009okay so on one line09:29
micheleand a wine09:29
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abonnemaMIchele: well, enjoy, and see ya later.09:29
evsophomore2009Section "Extensions"09:29
evsophomore2009        Option      "Composite"      "Disable"09:29
michelecya09:29
evsophomore2009just like that in the term right?09:29
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: yep.. thats right.. now press enter to go to a new line09:29
evsophomore2009kay09:30
evsophomore2009done09:30
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: now this line uses the space bar for spaces09:30
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evsophomore2009okay09:30
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: type the following09:30
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: EndSection09:30
evsophomore2009one word?09:30
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: just looked at the line in my config.. tehre is no spaces.. .my bad09:31
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neonlinuxyep.. one word09:31
vbgunzis there a way to seperate the applications that shipped with Kubuntu and those that I installed? I mean, it's been quite a while and I know here and there I've downloaded some cli apps I probably don't use much... is there a way to seperate everything that shipped with Kubuntu and everything I installed manually?09:31
evsophomore2009Wait...there are no spaces?09:31
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok... now after typing... EndSection press enter09:31
vbgunzI'd like to get into maintenance mode :)09:31
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: no saces09:31
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: no spaces09:31
evsophomore2009kay i typed EndSection09:32
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: ok... now after typing... EndSection press enter09:32
neonlinuxfor a new line09:32
evsophomore2009kay done09:32
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: cool.. now press ctrl+x09:33
evsophomore2009yes or no09:33
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: its asking if you want to save changes... yes09:33
evsophomore2009kay now what09:33
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: so it saved and your now at the command line?09:33
evsophomore2009no im still at the thiny] 09:34
evsophomore2009*thingy09:34
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: u pressed ctrl+x.. then yes.. it will now be asking what you would like to call the file... press enter09:35
killgoreHi, there is a typo in the headline of the latest announcement on www.kubuntu.org09:35
killgoreit  say "Tride 2 CD Released" should be "Tribe 2 CD Released" ?09:36
evsophomore2009Okay im back at the command line09:36
neonlinuxkillgore: you found a bug lol09:36
killgoreI'm so cool09:36
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: just on a side note.. did you install the gfx drivers?09:37
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evsophomore2009gfx Drivers??09:37
neonlinuxfor ur ati card?09:37
evsophomore2009never installed it09:37
neonlinuxso ur running the default generic drivers?09:37
evsophomore2009Sure i guess09:38
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: u have an ati card right?09:38
evsophomore2009How do i find out?09:38
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agm_i am having problems with atheros AR5006EG wifi adapter, cant get it working09:39
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:39
neonlinuxevsophomore2009: scroll down until you find a section called Section "Device"09:40
evsophomore2009okay i dont see gfx09:41
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: in Section "Device" it should either say nv (nvidia) or ati09:43
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neonlinuxevsophomore2009: i have to go... to return everything back to the way it was before the changes... exit by pressing ctrl+x and then typing.... sudo cp /home/mike/xorg.conf /etc/X11/09:48
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arunneonlinux: vmware is working, installing windows09:51
arunthanks for all your help09:51
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to6etohi all09:56
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arunhey to6eto09:59
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david__Buff.10:04
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t_mausis anybody of you a sysop10:06
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arunhow do i install smb server10:06
t_mausapt-get install samba10:07
t_mausapt-get install samba-common10:07
arunalright, thanks10:07
t_mausnp10:07
arunhow do i install software on my windows/vmware?10:08
to6etowine10:08
aruncan i install from a shared directory using samba10:08
killgorehobbsee: can you fix the typo "Tride"->"Tribe" on kubuntu.org or tell someone10:08
to6etoapt-get inatll wine10:08
t_mausyou CAN use samba10:08
arunto6eto: i dont need wine, i'm running vmware10:08
arunt_maus: or else?10:08
Hobbseekillgore: oh dear.  yes.10:08
to6etoupd, sorry :)10:09
t_mausif you use vmware-workstation10:09
killgoreHobbsee: ;)10:09
arunt_maus: i'm using vmware-server10:09
Hobbseekillgore: as in, to getting someone else to fix it, i think10:09
t_mausoh usb stick ?10:09
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t_mausor you can use virtualbox10:10
t_mausis the same like vmware but 1. ist open source und 2. it has the same level like vmware-workstation10:11
arunum.. i am running vmware-server.. how do i share folders between my linux and vmware/windows10:11
emkoqucik question how  do i change my resolution to native resolution? i can only go up to 1024X76810:11
t_mausvi /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:12
Linux_GaloreThey should put the new Crystal icon set in Gutsy, I mean its a seriously good update from the old set -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668&forumpage=1910:12
t_maus@arun i ask google there is no option to share with out a stick with the vmware SERVER version10:13
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arunyes10:13
arunthanks10:13
t_mausvmware workstation is able to share10:14
Linux_Galorenice picture of the cew crystal icon set -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25668&file1=25668-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Crystal+Clear10:15
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Linux_Galorenew*10:15
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mikkaelis kdewallet only for local security ?10:19
t_mausyes it seams to be so10:21
t_mausi dont see there a global support fr security10:21
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TrueFXwhere is the /etc/rc.d directory in kubuntu?10:34
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egolosthmm.. all the keyboard layouts are missing from my keyboard layouts... anyone have a clue for a solution?10:47
fedeGood morning everybody. i have a problem with kub feisty. Since a pair of days, everytime i connect a usb flash memory, it lets me just see the files, but not delete or add. I tried with sudo konqueror or sudo chmod but even with sudo, it tells me that i havent got enough permissions. what could i do?10:48
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icecruncherok, can anybody tell me how to change the adress the dhclient is asking to?10:49
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arunawesome, now i can run photoshop from within kubuntu10:50
arunyay10:50
icecruncherwhen I run dhclient eth0, it is trying to get the dhcp from 255.255.255.255, I'd like to change that to my router10:50
mikkaelalt + f2 is supposed to starta launcher, right ?10:53
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arunmikkael: yes11:04
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brun0___hello11:10
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brun0___I've a problem of my screen blinking from time to time11:10
brun0___on my laptop11:11
brun0___with a geforce840011:11
brun0___and the latest nvidia drivers11:11
_Shade_hi there11:11
brun0___is it known ?11:11
_Shade_how can i select an object which is under another one?11:12
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_Shade_oops i missed the channel sorry :)11:12
Linux_Galoreegolost: keytouch11:14
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Linux_Galorebrun0___: ?? version of kubuntu11:16
brun0___Linux_Galore: feist11:16
brun0___feisty11:16
Linux_Galorebrun0___: heard of people having issues with the 8600/8800  not suprised with the 8400 being a problem as its in the same chip familty11:17
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Linux_Galorefamily*11:17
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brun0___Linux_Galore: so basically i should wait for the next driver :) ?11:17
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Linux_Galorebrun0___: did you get the driver from nvidia ?11:18
Linux_Galoreie from their website11:19
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CugelDudes, I have a question. I'm looking for a large pic of the Kubuntu logo. Haven't been able to find something suitable yet. Any ideas?11:20
Linux_Galorebrun0___: is this with Beryl on ?11:20
brun0___Linux_Galore: no11:21
brun0___neither compiz ;)11:21
Linux_Galoreaah yeah, they have a link on their wiki to some stuff11:21
CugelHmm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Kubuntu_Logo.svg seems okay, but actually I'd like to replicate http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/84/fc/8cf3_1.JPG11:21
Linux_GaloreCugel: the ebay one would be easy to copy in Gimp11:22
CugelTrue.11:22
Linux_GaloreCugel: always look on flickr11:23
Linux_Galoreor google images11:23
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brun0___Linux_Galore: it seems that it is each time the screen refreshes11:23
neonlinuxLinux_Galore: almost got gutsy down :)11:23
mikkaelhow can i chenge k-menu's button on my panel ?11:23
brun0___Linux_Galore: not each time, but only when something changes on the screen11:23
eagles0513875cant wait till tomorrow11:23
eagles0513875and ill have it downloaded too11:23
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Cugelhttp://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0014/6935/Kubuntu.eps   -- that's what I was looking for.11:24
Linux_Galorebrun0___: try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg11:24
r0cks0ulcan i make gxine and totem work at the same time? coz i was having problem with it11:24
Linux_Galorebrun0___: thats how I got my Nvidia stuff working11:24
krautmoin11:24
Linux_Galorer0cks0ul: they both use the same engine11:25
Linux_Galorer0cks0ul: dare say its creating a conflict11:25
r0cks0ulbut why cant i play videos on gxine?11:25
brun0___Linux_Galore: is it a problem to run this if I have used the nvidia installer (because it's not in the repositories)11:25
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r0cks0ulbefore i was able to make them work at the same time11:26
Linux_Galorer0cks0ul: why would you use a Gnome app ?? kde has heaps of apps to play stuff ie kaffeine/kmplayer11:26
r0cks0uli do have mplayer11:26
r0cks0ulit works great11:26
r0cks0ulbut i want gxine too11:26
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Linux_Galorer0cks0ul: might want to also look at vlc I use it for mp4 files11:27
Linux_Galorer0cks0ul: your problem is both programs are exactly the same video player just different skins11:27
r0cks0ulreally?11:27
Linux_Galoreyes11:27
r0cks0ulit was working before?!11:27
eagles0513875Linux_Galore: whats the advantage of mp4 files11:28
Linux_Galorer0cks0ul: pick one, they are both the same11:28
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Linux_Galoreeagles0513875: well they play on more portable devices for starters11:28
r0cks0ultrhe reason i like gxine is that when im on a cube(beryl) it occupies all the 4 workspaces11:28
Linux_Galoreie 5G ipod11:28
eagles0513875besides ipods11:29
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Linux_Galoreeagles0513875: iRiver media players etc use mp4 so do the sony stuff Ive used11:29
Linux_Galoreeagles0513875: I have no preference for mp4 Im an xvid fan or even mkv11:30
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Linux_GaloreIm just saying I found vlc to play mp4 files better than most media apps11:30
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eagles0513875thats rather interesting cuz i though only ipods used mp4a11:30
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brun0____I tried to remove the DPMS option from monitor11:31
Linux_Galoreeagles0513875: theres a kde app to convert xvid to mp4 for ipods11:31
eagles0513875what is xvid11:31
Linux_Galoreeagles0513875: improved open source variant of divx11:32
Linux_GaloreXviD is an open source MPEG-4 video codec. Originally based on OpenDivX, XviD was started by a group of volunteer programmers after the OpenDivX source was closed11:33
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bart_17hello and good day11:33
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eagles0513875thats kool11:33
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Linux_GaloreMatroska is a project to develop an open source multimedia container format similar to Apple's QuickTime or Microsoft's Advanced Streaming Format. It is named after the Matryoshka doll.11:34
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Linux_Galoremkv is pretty big with anime junkies these days11:34
bart_17how can i change the screen resolution?11:34
Linux_Galorebart_17: as in its not high enough in the settings section ?11:35
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Linux_Galorebart_17: or as in "I want to change it on the fly" ?11:35
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bart_17linux_galore: i just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my old pc and i can't seem to go beyond a 640X480 resolution11:36
Linux_Galorebart_17: aaah only one method to fix that11:36
bart_17how?11:37
Linux_Galorebart_17: try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg11:37
bart_17will that work on ubuntu 5.10?11:38
Linux_Galorebart_17: then restart X ie press ctrl alt backspace then start krandrtray so you can select one of the setting you have defined11:38
Linux_Galorebart_17: should do11:38
bart_17thanx...11:39
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bart_17my old pc is an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run fiesty decently on this pc, or should i stick with the 5.10?11:41
binks!mythbuntu11:41
ubotuMythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information11:41
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franzmaximilianyesterday adept prompted for update of a couple of packages, which i did without giving a closer look.  I do not remember getting any error, but today my xserver does not start!  Using a nvidia card.11:42
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franzmaximilianany hint is welcome11:42
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bart_17linux_galore: my old pc is an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run fiesty decently on this pc, or should i stick with the 5.10?11:43
franzmaximiliannow, do not tell me this is not windows and i should know what i'm doing.... for I already know you are right.11:43
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Jahmanhi11:44
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franzmaximilianbut i was in hurry....11:44
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Linux_Galorebart_17: no, get xubuntu, that way you can have the latest version without the slowness11:45
hollandlucashello11:45
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hollandlucasHow can I change the language of the Kubuntu login screen (I'm using Feisty)11:46
bart_17xububtu fiesty?11:46
Linux_Galorewww.xubuntu.org11:46
Linux_Galorebart_17: yep11:46
bart_17thanx11:46
bart_17configuring the  resolution would be the same i presume??11:47
Linux_Galorehollandlucas: you have to change the default for kde as a whole11:47
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hollandlucasI have11:47
hollandlucasbut the login screen is still in English11:47
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Linux_Galorebart_17: no should be better as its newer, 5.10 was pretty crappy11:47
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bart_17oh ok... what if i get thew same problem how would i address it?11:48
hollandlucasah11:48
hollandlucasI think I've solved the problem11:48
Linux_Galorebart_17: same way as i mentioned no different11:48
bart_17ok, by the way how do you start krandrtray?? i'm a noobie.. trying out linux11:49
Linux_Galorebart_17: open a term and type krandrtray after you login11:49
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Linux_Galorebart_17: if your in xubuntu though they use a different app11:50
bart_17what would it be?11:50
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Linux_Galorebart_17: not sure of the top of my head11:50
franzmaximilianam I the only one who has troubles with his xserver not working after the most recent update? I did it as always before but something must have gone wrong or updates are bugged!11:50
bart_17ok, thanx, i'll ask around in the xubuntu cahnnels...11:50
Linux_Galorebart_17: xrandr11:50
bart_17thanx11:51
bart_17does xubuntu play mp3's out of the box?>11:52
franzmaximiliananyone can help about reconfiguring xorg.conf or nvidia drivers ? had them messed up with yesterday's updates...11:53
franzmaximiliancan't anyone help?  I updated yesterday restricted modules at adept prompt, and my Xserver does not work today!11:57
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franzmaximilianplease.....11:58
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ubuntu_hola11:58
ubuntu_alguien me puede ayudar11:59
franzmaximilian:(11:59
ubuntu_tengo q configurar una wifi12:00
ubuntu_tengo otra version en la ps312:01
eagles0513875!es12:01
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:01
eagles0513875ubuntu_: solo ingles aqui12:01
ubuntu_gracias , y perdonar es la 1 vez12:01
eagles0513875de nada mi amigo12:02
eagles0513875u guys r lucky u have someone who can speak some spanish12:03
franzmaximiliancan anyone help with nvidia configuration?  After updating restricted modules yesterday, my Xserver does not start!12:03
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franzmaximilianthumbs down for kubuntu support12:05
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dr34dyno sound for pidgin12:06
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dr34dycould someone help?12:06
dr34dyi use kubuntu 70412:06
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hollandlucasdr34dy: Do you have sound in other applications?12:12
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Linux_Galore?? I thought pidgin didnt have sound yet12:24
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Linux_Galorethe correct wrod though is "voice"12:25
Linux_Galoreword*12:25
wordlinux_galore*12:25
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wordnot so funny now is it? >:O12:25
Linux_Galore?12:26
wordi really should turn off nick notifications for this channel ;p12:26
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Linux_Galoreor use a handle that isnt a standard noun12:26
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lotzroeffelmoin12:30
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lotzroeffelhabe wlan-karte mit ndiswrapper installiert, dann mit iwconfig in der konsole konfiguriert. soweit so gut, aber er merkt sich das nicht. nach einem neustart muss ich iwconfig immer wieder neu ausfhren12:32
pag!de | lotzroeffel12:34
ubotulotzroeffel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:34
hollandlucasvielleicht hilft das: http://osdir.com/ml/drivers.ndiswrapper.general/2004-05/msg00198.html12:34
lotzroeffelein problem, das ich bei edgy auch nicht hatte, ist dass bei ndisgtk "hardware present:no" angezeigt wird. bei edgy wurde "...:yes" angezeigt12:34
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lotzroeffelthx..ich schau mal - und wende mich ans deutsche forum :)12:36
hollandlucascan you recommend a kde native desktop search?12:37
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isthisnickvalid_Hi12:40
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hollandlucasI've got a rather stupid question:12:47
hollandlucasIn konqueror I can specify shortcuts for search engines (like gg for google)12:47
montoyawhat's the name of window decorator theme inside kubuntu?12:47
hollandlucashow do I use these?12:47
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X2Bquestion: how can I see the boot messages ("Starting apache2 webserver... [OK] ") again? Where are these log-files stored?12:48
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SSJ_GZhollandlucas: Type gg:search term in the address bar :)12:50
SSJ_GZhollandlucas: Or Alt+F2 and enter gg:search term in the mini-cli12:50
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hollandlucascan I change the keyboard shortcut for that Alt+F2 thing?12:51
^V^X2B: logs are located in /var/log/12:53
X2Byes, but which of the files is it?12:55
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^V^try boot?12:55
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X2B"(Nothing has been logged yet.)"12:56
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Kubuntudid any of you guys had kubuntu as first linux distro?12:57
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^V^X2B: what are you looking for exactly?12:58
X2Bfsck messages12:58
^V^there is an fsck folder01:00
eagles0513875Kubuntu: y do u ask01:01
X2Byeah, just saw that. But I think there were some fsck errors that don't show up in the fsck folder01:01
^V^also, you could grep through the logs01:01
hollandlucasweird01:02
hollandlucasI cannot find the driver for my printer in the KDE print dialog01:02
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hollandlucasunder gnome it was there...01:02
^V^hollandlucas: what printer?01:02
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hollandlucasEpson Stylus DX425001:02
Kubuntubecause i've noticed that newbies usually install ubuntu while kubuntu is used by people who already had linux with kde01:03
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hollandlucasthe weird thing is01:03
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^V^try both and use which you prefer01:03
hollandlucasthat the driver is a gutenprint one01:03
hollandlucasand gutenprint is installed01:03
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^V^hollandlucas: I seem to have it in the list01:04
hollandlucasweird01:04
hollandlucasI only have Stylus Color printers in the list01:04
Kubuntugnome's popularity rises with ubuntu's popularity, don't you think?01:04
^V^scroll further?01:05
hollandlucasI've scrolled the entire list01:05
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^V^probably, they are nearly identical01:05
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Kubuntugnome wasn't that popular in pre-ubuntu times :)01:05
hollandlucasI prefer KDE01:06
Kubuntume too01:06
^V^hollandlucas: what have you got listed right after Epson Color * ?01:06
hollandlucasnothing01:06
hollandlucasthe last one in the list01:06
hollandlucasis01:06
hollandlucasStylus Scan 250001:06
^V^no Epson Photo?01:06
hollandlucasnope01:06
hollandlucasStylus Photo01:07
^V^I have color, cx, dx, photo01:07
hollandlucasis in the list01:07
hollandlucasbut I need dx ;-)01:07
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arunhow do you delete a directory from konsole01:07
hollandlucasrm01:07
^V^rm -r dir01:07
hollandlucasrm -r01:07
eagles0513875Kubuntu: kde is better developed in my opinion01:07
arunthanks01:08
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eagles0513875^V^: what does this mean then rm -rf then the name of the directory01:08
hollandlucasI like KDE because of the killer apps it has01:08
hollandlucasKontact01:08
hollandlucasAmarok01:08
hollandlucasKonqueror01:08
^V^-f forces read only files to be deleted also01:08
arunkatapult01:08
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hollandlucasI don't like katapult01:09
arunwhy's that01:09
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hollandlucasButler and Quicksilver (OS X apps) are much better01:09
^V^eagles0513875: type `man rm`01:09
arunyeah, but  katapult works fine for me01:09
hollandlucasI think it's ugly01:09
eagles0513875ok01:09
arunyou can customise how it looks01:09
eagles0513875what is katapult supposed to do01:09
hollandlucasit's an app launcher01:09
arunmine looks pretty good01:09
^V^what does a catapult do?01:10
eagles0513875lol01:10
^V^lol01:10
eagles0513875lol01:10
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hollandlucaslol01:11
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Kubuntunext kubuntu is gonna have kde 4 rc2 as an option :)01:11
otto_hi all01:11
otto_I'm new to ubuntu01:11
arunanyone know how i can get konsole fonts to not be smoothed01:11
hollandlucasdamn01:12
hollandlucasI can't get my printer to work because of KDE :-(01:12
eagles0513875otto if ur using ubuntu ur in teh wrong channel01:12
otto_sorry I mean kubuntu, anyways01:12
eagles0513875lol01:12
eagles0513875whats u haveing trouble with otto01:12
otto_can anyone help me making my thunderbird sync wiht linux and windows?01:12
Kubuntuarun: which console font do you use?01:12
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Kubuntuarun: terminus is a nice one and it's not antialiased :)01:13
otto_pls01:13
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eagles0513875when u say that otto u talking bout on the same machine or 2 different ones01:14
eagles0513875sup ice01:14
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arunKubuntu: all my fonts are antialiased.. can i just tweak some setting somewhere so that 'monotype' fonts are not antialiased?01:14
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icecruncherhey eagles01:14
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^V^hollandlucas: what kubuntu version are you on?01:14
hollandlucasFeisty01:14
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^V^and you say you have the gutenprint package?01:15
hollandlucasI think so01:15
hollandlucasit's installed by default isn't it01:15
icecrunchereagles: speeds increase yet? :)01:15
^V^check? :)01:15
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Kubuntuarun: i wish i knew how to apply some settings to specific fonts, too, i wonder if that's possible at all01:16
hollandlucaslol01:16
hollandlucasI didn't have it installed01:16
^V^which one?01:16
hollandlucaslol01:16
hollandlucasnow I have more printers in the list01:16
hollandlucasCX and so on01:16
hollandlucasbut DX is still missing01:16
^V^:)01:16
^V^:(01:16
^V^should be right after CX01:16
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hollandlucasoh01:17
hollandlucasthere it is!01:17
^V^:)01:17
^V^what was the package you installed?01:17
hollandlucasI installed gutenprint*01:17
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hollandlucasI'm now gonna try and print something01:18
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otto_somebody help01:19
hollandlucasmmm01:19
otto_pls01:19
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hollandlucasthere is a little x on the printer icon01:20
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hollandlucasand it doesn't print01:21
hollandlucasit's attached to a server01:21
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hollandlucasbut Kubuntu has found it on the network01:21
icecruncheranybody install google desktop yet? it's awesome and fast01:21
^V^did you select "network printer"?01:21
hollandlucasyes01:21
hollandlucasipp://192.168.1.2:631/ipp01:21
hollandlucasis what Kubuntu tells me01:21
hollandlucasicecruncher: is it qt based?01:22
hollandlucasit used to work under ubuntu01:22
icecruncherhollandlucas: I thinkso, you ca get the .deb from their site01:22
^V^you can still use it in kubuntu01:22
icecruncherit's not in wine anymore01:22
^V^you mean native?01:23
icecruncheryes01:23
^V^hollandlucas: go to http://localhost:63101:24
hollandlucason the server?01:24
^V^pc01:24
hollandlucasthe server (which the printer is attached to)01:24
^V^where you installed the driver01:24
hollandlucasis running OS X01:24
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^V^I've got a networked printer but that's connected straight to my router01:25
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hollandlucasI don't understand01:26
hollandlucaswhy it worked with Gnome01:26
hollandlucasand not with KDE01:26
^V^you didn't set it up right...01:26
^V^does it give an error?01:26
^V^and did you check the CUPs page?01:26
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^V^CUPS*01:26
hollandlucason which machine?01:26
hollandlucasthe server or the client?01:26
^V^where you have installed CUPS driver01:26
^V^so the kubuntu machine01:27
hollandlucasokay01:27
hollandlucasI'm on the cups page01:27
^V^go to printers01:27
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hollandlucasokay01:27
hollandlucasNo printers found01:27
^V^really? hmm...01:27
^V^it should be in there01:28
hollandlucasit's weird01:28
hollandlucasthe KDE GUI01:28
hollandlucasfinds it01:28
hollandlucasand it tells me01:28
hollandlucasthat there is a01:28
hollandlucasclient-error-not-found01:28
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^V^yeah, can't find it01:28
^V^did you set the right port?01:28
hollandlucasit displays the machine the printer is attached to though01:28
hollandlucas63101:28
^V^but not the printer?01:28
^V^no, I mean the printer port01:29
hollandlucas?01:29
^V^mine is 910001:29
hollandlucasI don't know01:29
^V^socket://192.168.1.110:910001:29
^V^from my CUPS page01:29
hollandlucasI set the printer up under OS  X01:29
hollandlucaswhich basically hides all the Unix stuff01:29
^V^yeah, but you need to set it up in linux also01:29
hollandlucasI know, the linux box is gonna act as the "client"01:29
^V^is the printer connected via USB/PAr port? or network?01:29
hollandlucasit's connected via USB to the server machine01:30
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hollandlucaswhich is connected via a normal network01:30
hollandlucasto the client01:30
^V^okay, so that's a bit different01:30
^V^I'm not familiar with the print system in OSX01:30
hollandlucasit uses cups01:31
^V^what do they use?01:31
otto_if I wanna link my mail profile in thunderbird to the one in windows, should I use a sym or hard link?01:31
^V^oh, then you need to select "remote CUPS server"01:31
^V^did you pick "network printer"?01:31
hollandlucaswait01:32
hollandlucasmy cups web ui is in German you see ;-)01:32
^V^lol...01:32
hollandlucasso01:32
hollandlucasI have to go to the "printers" tab?01:32
^V^yes01:32
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hollandlucasokay01:32
^V^the last tab01:32
hollandlucasthere I get a text field01:32
^V^and no printer list?01:33
hollandlucasand it tells me that no printers have been found01:33
^V^okay01:33
^V^go to the kde printer panel01:33
hollandlucasok01:33
^V^delete the one you installed01:33
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hollandlucasdone01:33
^V^and try again01:33
^V^pick remote cups server01:33
hollandlucasokay01:33
hollandlucasanonymous?01:33
^V^I think so01:34
hollandlucasI'll try the "Test" button...01:34
^V^did you use ipp:// ?01:34
hollandlucasno01:35
hollandlucasI just entered the IP address01:35
hollandlucasand it found the printer01:35
hollandlucasthere was a list01:35
hollandlucasshowing one printer01:35
^V^okay01:35
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hollandlucasmmm01:35
hollandlucasit's not printing anything01:35
^V^permissions?01:35
hollandlucas?01:35
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^V^check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the server01:36
^V^have you got a line like: Listen localhost:631 ?01:36
hollandlucaslet me check...01:36
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_4strOyop yop01:38
hollandlucasthere is a line01:38
hollandlucaswhich is outcommented01:38
hollandlucasand says01:38
hollandlucasListen 127.0.0.1:63101:39
^V^thats the same as localhost01:39
^V^is it commented?01:39
hollandlucasyes01:39
hollandlucas#01:39
^V^any that are uncommented?01:39
hollandlucasPort 63101:39
hollandlucasand01:39
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hollandlucasListen /private/var/run/cupsd01:39
hollandlucasshould I remove the # before Listen 127.0.0.1?01:40
icecruncher_4strO: yop yop?01:40
^V^hollandlucas: comment the original line, add Listen localhost:631 and Listen XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:631 to it underneath01:40
_4strO:p hello :)01:40
^V^where the XXX.XXX...etc represents your LAN IP01:40
^V^of the client01:41
hollandlucasthe LAN IP of the client01:41
hollandlucasok01:41
hollandlucasay01:41
icecruncher_4strO: :)01:41
^V^and restart the CUPS server01:41
hollandlucasI'm going to reboot the server01:42
hollandlucasit needed rebooting anyway ;-)01:42
^V^just the CUPS not the whole PC01:42
^V^I hope you are not doing a full system reboot...01:43
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hollandlucaswhy?01:43
^V^becuase its slower...01:43
^V^and you don't need to?01:43
hollandlucasit's done01:43
^V^this isn't windows you know01:43
hollandlucasshould I re-try adding the printer via the KDE dialog?01:44
^V^it should be in there still01:44
^V^right?01:44
hollandlucasno01:44
hollandlucasi deleted it ;-)01:44
hollandlucasI'll just re-added01:44
^V^:(01:44
^V^try again01:44
hollandlucasjust to make sure01:44
^V^okay01:44
hollandlucasokay done01:45
hollandlucasI'll try printing something01:46
^V^okay...01:46
hollandlucasthe KJobViewer appeared01:46
icecruncherhow can I open my password protected rar file  from win?01:46
hollandlucasbut the item inside it01:46
hollandlucashas now disappeared01:46
hollandlucasthe printer isn't doing anything01:46
^V^hollandlucas: check the CUPS page01:46
hollandlucasthe server's?01:46
^V^icecruncher: what do you mean from win?01:46
^V^hollandlucas: the clients01:46
icecruncherwindows01:47
^V^so it is on windows and you want to read it in linux?01:47
hollandlucasokay I've opened the cups page01:47
^V^hollandlucas: printer in there?01:47
hollandlucasno01:47
icecruncher^V^: it ws on windows, I put a password on it there, now in linux01:47
hollandlucasor wait01:47
hollandlucasit is01:47
^V^icecruncher: can you see the file from linux?01:47
llutzicecruncher: rar x -p file.rar01:48
icecruncheryes01:48
^V^sudo apt-get install unrar01:48
hollandlucaswhen I instruct it to print a testpage01:48
hollandlucasit says01:48
icecruncherllutz: not unrar?01:48
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hollandlucasQuota limit reached01:48
vzduch^V^: why unrar if there is rar? ;)01:48
^V^It sees it at least :) (I think)01:48
llutzicecruncher: unrar works too01:48
^V^what does the URI say?01:48
hollandlucasit says01:49
hollandlucasipp://192.168.1.2:631/printers/Stylus_DX420001:49
hollandlucasthe 4200 is normal, OS X recognises it as a 420001:49
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^V^hollandlucas: what does the state say?01:50
hollandlucasI'll translate01:50
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hollandlucasfree, accepting jobs, published01:50
^V^that should be 'idle' ;)01:50
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icecruncher^V^ llutz: thnks01:50
^V^so that seems fine01:50
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hollandlucasmaybe I should reboot the client?01:51
^V^hollandlucas: I think it might be to do with the config on the server01:51
^V^hollandlucas: no01:51
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hollandlucaslet me check the server's cups conf01:51
hollandlucasmaybe it didn't make the changes to the file01:51
^V^you can try `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart`01:52
^V^if you need to restart the CUPS server01:52
ciaconHi, I would like to flash my bios, as I hope to use my large 1gb sdram module... chaintech (the mobo-manufacturer) has provided me with *.bin files... how do I flash the bios with ubuntu (as I can't use a standard windows bios flash-tool)01:52
^V^ciacon: any DOS flash tools available?01:52
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hollandlucasyeah01:53
nicolashello!01:53
hollandlucasit didn't make the changes01:53
icecruncher!hello01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
ciacon^V^: sadly no dos-flash provided01:53
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hollandlucasI'll make the changes and restart cups01:53
hollandlucasone min01:53
^V^have you got some sort of auto-flasher when it detects a BIN file on CD/floppy?01:54
^V^I know some ASUS boards can do it01:54
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hollandlucasokay done01:55
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hollandlucasshould I just try to print again01:55
hollandlucasor do I have to re-add the printer01:55
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^V^no01:55
ciacon^V^: I have checked... there is a seperate flash-tool provided in another *.rar that I got off their site... now I only need to do a "format a: /s".... -.-01:55
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^V^that should be okay01:55
hollandlucasI'll try to print then...01:56
nicolasI've a pb... adept updater won't run, it say an other process is already using the data base... but i've just start the system, and i haven't run any application before... do you know how can i fix it01:56
nicolas?01:56
ciacon^V^: any sujestion how/where I can get a a standard dos floppy01:56
^V^you can use a CD01:57
ciacon^V^: don't even have that....01:57
hollandlucasnow the job doesn't disappear01:57
hollandlucasbut nothing happens01:58
^V^ciacon: try this link, it might help: http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html01:58
hollandlucasthere's a little  bolt on the icon01:58
^V^what is the error message?01:58
hollandlucasand it says: "Verarbeitung luft" which means01:58
hollandlucasthat it's doing something01:58
icecruncher!adeptfix | nicolas01:58
ubotunicolas: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:58
nicolasok thxs :)01:59
^V^what is something?01:59
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hollandlucasliterally it says: Processing running01:59
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^V^okay01:59
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^V^printer not doing anything?02:00
hollandlucasbope02:00
hollandlucasnope02:00
^V^you restarted the CUPS server on Mac after the changes?02:01
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hollandlucasyes02:01
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hollandlucasI'll try re-adding the printer02:01
^V^and the changes are still there?02:01
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hollandlucaslet me check02:01
ciacon^V^: thanks =)... FreeDos seems like the way to go =).... tyvm02:01
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hollandlucasyes02:01
hollandlucasthey are02:01
etalli_AHH! Who is using etalli?02:02
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nicolasit works now!! thanks a lot ubotu!02:03
etalli_ubotu is a bot02:03
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.02:03
etalli_You don't need to thank bots.02:03
truthseekerany guru there 2 help me02:04
nicolas? why?02:04
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hollandlucasone more thing I can try02:04
hollandlucasadding ServerName 192.168.1.2 to /etc/cups/client.conf02:05
icecruncherlol, they shold make the bot reply to a thankyou02:05
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nicolaslol it's my first time on IRC, i was thinking a bot was an admin, an humain admin02:06
nicolasso a bot is a robot ok02:06
etalli_nicolas:  that's ok, I made that mistake a while ago too. :)02:07
hollandlucasweird02:07
hollandlucaswhen I run lpq02:07
hollandlucasit tells me it can't reach the server02:07
etalli_nicolas:  The name gives it away.  uBOTu02:07
truthseekerubotu...an artificial intelligence??02:08
jzillamy name is jzilla but im not a dinosaur02:08
icecruncher!ubotu02:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:08
truthseekeroh my..it is true.!!02:08
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^V^hollandlucas: lpq?02:09
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hollandlucasyeah02:10
hollandlucasfrom man lpq:02:10
^V^nvm02:10
hollandlucaslpq - show printer queue status02:10
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^V^so you can't access printer?02:11
hollandlucasright02:11
hollandlucasI can ping the server's IP though02:11
hollandlucasso it's a cups problem02:11
^V^yeah...02:11
icecruncherhow can I map my entire network? a in see what computer is online?02:12
^V^and you say it worked in gnome with no modifications to the cups server on OS X?02:12
hollandlucasyes02:12
^V^very strange...I'm out of ideas02:13
^V^but try to figure out how you set it up in gnome and how those settings tramnslate to kde02:13
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^V^be back later02:14
hollandlucask02:14
nicolasgotta go, thxs for the help! bye :)02:14
etalli_see you later, nicolas02:14
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etalli_!botsnack02:16
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:16
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icecruncher!ping02:21
ubotupong02:21
etalli-!ping02:21
ubotupong02:21
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nosrednaekimping02:22
nosrednaekimah! one point for me in Ping-pong!02:23
nosrednaekim20 more to go!02:23
etalli-!ping02:23
ubotupong02:23
etalli-!ping02:23
etalli-I win!02:23
icecruncher!windows02:23
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents02:23
etalli-Who was talking about Windows?02:24
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etalli-!equivalents02:24
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant02:24
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etalli-Help!!!!  Wait.  Bil Gates isn't the devil.   That would be Bill Gates.02:25
icecruncherno, I mean Bil02:26
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etalli-What?02:26
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etalli-Who is Bil Gates?02:26
icecruncheragh02:26
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icecruncherBil meaning the entire family02:26
etalli-OK02:27
icecruncherlol, actually spelling mistake :)02:27
darkrift411bil as the the first part of the amount of his net worth?02:27
darkrift411q: i have a pocket pc, raki and multisync02:28
etalli-Good, cause I thought you were either a little slow, or that you were foreign and that meant the family of in some other language02:28
darkrift411when i plug in my ppc, i see02:28
darkrift411* huw_ (n=huw@88-106-205-197.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #kubuntu02:28
icecruncherhaahaha02:28
darkrift411erm02:28
darkrift411331.676000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 402:28
darkrift411[  331.900000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice02:28
darkrift411and lsusb shows it02:29
darkrift411but nothing else finds it02:29
darkrift411any ideas as to what i could do?02:29
icecruncheretalli-: I'm neither, lol, well tired...02:29
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darkrift411segue*02:31
darkrift411gn all02:31
darkrift411or gm for most02:31
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etalli-Poll:  What IRC client are you using?  I am trying to choose one.02:33
icecruncherdarkrift411: sorry, no02:33
icecruncheretalli-: Konversation02:34
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vzduchirssi02:35
nosrednaekimkonversation02:35
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Tm_Tirssi02:35
nosrednaekimthats why I like it ^^^02:36
etalli-:)02:36
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: well, those scripts can be in any client02:36
nosrednaekimTm_T: but they aren't.02:36
Tm_Taren't what?02:36
Tm_Tthere by default?02:36
nosrednaekimyeah02:36
Tm_Thrr02:36
Tm_Tglad they aren't02:37
Tm_TI have habit to kickban overusing of scripts02:37
Tm_T(not here though)02:37
nosrednaekimEEEK!02:37
nosrednaekimperdon perdon senor Tm_T!02:37
Tm_Thaha02:37
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icecruncherSysinfo for 'machinata07': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Celeron (Mendocino) at 334 MHz (669 bogomips), HD: 7/36GB, RAM: 183/186MB, 148 proc's, 8.35h up02:38
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icecrunchernosrednaekim: I agree< very nice scripts02:38
Tm_TI agree, very irrelevant and noisy stuff02:38
Tm_T!offtopic02:38
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:38
nosrednaekim!slap Tm_T02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slap tm_t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
nosrednaekimer02:39
icecruncherhehe, can be usefulll though02:39
Tm_Tyes, your hardware setup IS offtopic02:39
nosrednaekimok Tm_T02:39
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Tm_Tunless related to support question ofcourse (;02:39
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icecrunchersory tm_T02:39
Tm_Ticecruncher: hum, what we're hiding?02:39
nosrednaekimmice st all come out to play02:39
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nosrednaekim*et al02:39
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icecruncherTm_T: hide from you, the op02:40
icecruncherah02:40
Tm_Ticecruncher: I'm not op02:40
etalli_?02:40
icecrunchernot anymore02:40
Tm_Tnever been, you must been dreaming02:40
icecruncherit's all in you head, right?02:41
etalli_It had the little @ next to your name02:41
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Tm_Tah that, that's just silly hat02:41
icecruncher""Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from Tm_T""02:41
icecruncherlol02:41
etalli_Oh, I must have missed that.02:41
Tm_Ticecruncher: never happened02:41
Tm_T;--P02:41
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flamiHi , can i create a ad hoc wlan with knetworkmanager ? I read about Networkmanager that you just need to create a new network , but i cant find that button in Knetworkmanager .02:43
etalli_Flaming space!  I just figured out who etalli is.  Preform whois on etalli and etalli_.  It's my other computer02:44
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flamian evil nick steal ? ;)02:45
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etalliYay!02:46
etalliI am in my happy place.02:46
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icecruncheretalli: Konversation has some really nice commands02:47
icecruncherBeer load [      \              ]  30%02:47
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etalliWhat about Beer load [    \              ]  30%02:48
Tm_Ticecruncher: stop02:48
icecruncheryesur02:48
Tm_Tetalli: #kubuntu-offtopic for that thanks02:48
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squall2hasan2 where r u02:49
etalliicecruncher: lets go!02:49
DexterFhi02:49
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DexterFtried writing an iso image to cd-rw with k3b, deosn't work. k3b stalls, the it goes "buffer overflow, reduce speed"02:50
squall2what is going on hasan202:50
icecruncheretalli: come on02:50
DexterFthat cdrw works fine at 10x, tested, rather unused02:50
DexterFcopied the wodim command to konsole, says cant open scsi driver02:51
DexterFas root!02:51
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DexterFpointers?02:51
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eagles0513875!sourceomatic02:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:53
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KartiHi all, just a qucick one. I absolutely love Kubuntu 7.04 and its now on my main PC. (So its my way to force me to use Linux!) but what is the general opinion about moving to the next version every 6 months? Its just that 7.1 looks good as well? Any ideas?02:54
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[nk] keeping with the latest packages is what keeps me happy02:56
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Karti[nk] : But I can do that with the Adept Package Manager can I not?02:56
KartiI think the 7.04 is supported for 18 months which is fine, I just wondered if I would have to install all my apps again with each new version rather than just transfer my home partition accross02:58
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llutzKarti: if you have installed all your apps from the official repos, you should be able to upate/upgrade to 7.10 later with adept02:59
etalliKarti:  Where did you get 7.1 from?  The next version will be 7.10.  The first number is the last of the year (2007) and the two after are the month (October, April)02:59
etalliOr was that a typo.03:00
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Kartillutz: I have kept it all within the normal repos and some recommended ones (for exampleflash nvidea etc)03:00
vzduchflashplayer and nvidia are in multiverse afaik03:00
Kartietalli: Sorry, just thinking maths.......and leaving the 0 out :(03:01
etalliHa.03:01
KartiAs a new user I used "the 13 things to do to Ubuntu before you use it" webpage which suggested some others03:01
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icecruncherKarti: what site is that?03:02
etalliOh, where's that.  That would be interesting to read to see if I've done them all.03:02
vzduchnever heard of03:02
etalliAhh!  You beat me to it!03:02
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icecruncheretalli: same here03:02
icecruncheryo eagles03:03
KartiHere you go > http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html03:03
etalliyay.  Read.03:03
eagles0513875sup03:03
vzduchfor my first Kubuntu install I used http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu7.04 as a rough guide03:03
KartiIt enabled me to have everything that I required to move away from Windows (if I remember correctly)03:04
vzduchMedibuntu shouldn't be a problem03:04
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vzduchI got that too, but I found it through other sources03:05
eagles0513875would the msft equivalent of medibuntu be media center lol03:05
eagles0513875!aptfix03:05
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:05
Kartivzduch: The site is a good one, complete with screenshots03:06
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etallisince when are Google Earth, picasa, Adobe Reader, and Skype must haves03:06
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eagles0513875lol03:07
Kartietalli: Never said I used them all ;)03:07
eagles0513875skype isnt picasa is a good picture program google earth is total up to the person03:07
eagles0513875lol03:07
icecruncheroh wow, nice guide03:07
vzduchGoogle Earth and Picasa are definitively not necessary03:07
vzduchSkype depends on the ppl you hang out with ;)03:07
llutzso does acroread03:08
vzduchAcroread is, like it or not, the best PDF viewer around03:08
icecrunchervzduch: neitehr are microsoft fonts03:08
eagles0513875!sourcomatic03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
eagles0513875!sourceomatic03:08
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:08
vzduchMsft fonts are not necessary indeed03:08
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KartiI will admit to using Acrobat though...03:08
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icecruncherneither is d4x03:09
eagles0513875Karti: i think alot of us use acrobat lol03:09
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vzduchllutz: just take a read through the pages of the Scribus project.. they see too many deficiencies w/ the alternatives (i.e. Kpdf, gpdf, xpdf and whatnot) so they recommend using Acroread for good results03:09
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llutzvzduch: depends on your needs, kpdf works fine _for me_03:10
KartiJust out of interest is there a application that can view all file types?03:11
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icecruncherI don't think so, although you can do a lot with konqueror + plugins03:13
llutzKarti: less :)03:13
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Kartian example would be this http://www.explorerview.com03:15
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kainhello03:16
etallilol03:16
icecruncherello03:17
kaini installed the demo of a program... installed the full version demo still runs... i need to uninstall the demo but it's not in my package manager or anything03:17
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Kartibut like you said with Konquerer you should get the same idea03:17
icecruncherKarti: yes03:17
kaini did find an uninstall file but when i try to run in the terminal it doesn't uninstall?03:17
kainhelp please?03:17
Kartikain: what program?03:18
icecruncherkain: what program? how did you install it?03:18
kainbridge construction set03:18
kaini sudo03:18
icecruncherkain: you used command line?03:18
kainyes03:18
kainfor the bin03:19
icecruncherkain: do sudo apt-get remove <prgram name>03:19
icecruncherKarti: this site might help you make a choice between filemanagers. http://www.linux.com/articles/11395203:20
kainsays couldn't find package03:20
kainthis isthe path to the uninstall: /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall03:21
Karti<program name> should be the same name that you used to install it03:21
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kainsuch as: ./bcsdemo_v1_3.sh.bin?03:21
icecruncherkain: try a dpkg -l | grep <name> to see if it's there03:21
icecruncherkain: no, you used the name, try bcs or bcsdemo03:22
Kartiicecruncher: just reading the site - cheers ;)03:22
kaini just get a new command line03:23
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kaindoesn't do anything03:23
kaincan i manually use the uninstall file?03:23
kaini even looked on their forums for uninstall nothing03:23
kainit has an uninstall file i am just new to linux/kubuntu03:23
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icecruncherkain: in command line go to that folder03:25
icecruncherkain: then type ./unistall03:25
icecruncheror whtever03:25
kaink03:25
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eagles0513875what does this mean guys03:26
eagles0513875# Automatically generated sources.list03:26
eagles0513875# http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/03:26
eagles0513875#03:26
eagles0513875# If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file03:26
eagles0513875# and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)03:26
eagles0513875#03:26
eagles0513875# gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY03:26
eagles0513875# gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -03:26
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eagles0513875#03:26
eagles0513875# If you don't know what to do with this file, read03:26
juan!grub03:27
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:27
eagles0513875# https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine03:27
crdlb!paste | eagles051387503:27
eagles0513875# Ubuntu supported packages03:27
ubotueagles0513875: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:27
eagles0513875# GPG key: 437D05B503:27
eagles0513875deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted03:27
eagles0513875deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted03:27
eagles0513875deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted03:27
crdlb!ops03:27
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!03:27
eagles0513875# Ubuntu community supported packages03:27
eagles0513875# GPG key: 437D05B503:27
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eagles0513875deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy universe multiverse03:27
eagles0513875deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates universe multiverse03:27
eagles0513875deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe multiverse03:27
eagles0513875# Ubuntu backports project03:27
etalliAhh drowning in flood!03:27
_4strOeagles0513875: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP03:27
_4strOeagles0513875: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP03:27
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etalliThank you!03:28
_4strOlol03:28
Hobbseemy goodness....03:28
Hobbseei thought he had more sense than that.03:28
_4strOi think he didn't see our warning03:28
Hobbseehe's been in this channel before.  it's not hard to see a topic03:28
kainice: it says: Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.03:28
_4strOyep03:28
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kainwhat should i do to uninstall?03:29
etalliWhere is $KDEDIR?03:29
kainjust delete the folder?03:29
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_4strOkain: how do you install it ?03:30
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_4strOhox did you ...03:30
_4strOhow*03:30
_4strOlol03:30
_4strOfucking fingers03:30
Hobbsee!language03:30
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:30
kaini did so with the command line03:30
_4strOsorry ...03:30
kaini am trying to uninstall with the command line with no luck03:31
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Hobbseewe'll see if he can behave and not flood03:31
kainalso the program isn't in any package managers03:31
_4strOkain: did you try to ./your_uninstall_file ?03:31
kainyes03:31
kainsaid03:31
kainCould not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.03:31
kaini want to use the full version i just purchased not the demo03:32
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kainbut it keeps running the demo03:32
_4strOkain: what's your application and where did you find iot ?03:32
kaingaragegames.com03:32
kainbridge construction set03:32
_4strOok will look03:32
kainhttp://chroniclogic.com/03:32
pagkain, did you try to uninstall it with sudo, or normal user?03:32
kainsudo03:33
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_4strOtry with normal user :p03:33
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kaink03:34
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eagles0513875sry bout that guys03:34
eagles0513875i forgot that the shell doesnt allow one to use the ctrl c shortcut to copy stuff03:34
kain4str003:35
kainkain@kain-laptop:~$ cd /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo03:35
kainkain@kain-laptop:/usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo$ ./uninstall03:35
kainCould not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.03:35
kainkain@kain-laptop:/usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo$03:35
kain?????03:35
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_4strOkain: think there is no uninstall file03:36
llutzkain head -1 /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall03:36
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kaini get this03:41
kainkain@kain-laptop:~$ head -1 /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall03:41
kain#! /bin/sh03:41
kainkain@kain-laptop:~$03:41
kainwhat should i do?03:41
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llutzkain: it's just a shell-script, look what it does and try to fix it03:42
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_4strOkain: can you paste the result of : ls /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo ?03:42
kaini don't know how to code that03:42
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kainkain@kain-laptop:~$  ls /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo03:43
gnomefreakon pastebin please03:43
kainbcs                        files         prop            SDL LPGL.txt03:43
kainbcs.bmp                    font.bmp      readmedemo.txt  settings.cfg03:43
kainbcs-linux-openal-fixer.sh  hwconfig.cfg  readme.txt      setup03:43
kainbcsnosound                 Manual.url    rungamens.sh    sound03:43
kainChronic.url                object        rungame.sh      texture03:43
kaineulademo.txt               OpenAL32.dll  sdl.dll         uninstall03:43
kainkain@kain-laptop:~$03:43
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shane2peru!paste @ kain03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste @ kain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
shane2peru!pastebin @ kain03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebin @ kain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
shane2peru!pastebin03:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:44
gnomefreakahcant use @ either > or |03:44
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kainsorry about that03:44
gnomefreak!pastebin | kain03:44
ubotukain: please see above03:44
kainsorry03:44
kaini did see03:44
gnomefreak!pastebin03:44
kaindude i get it03:45
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gnomefreakthe bot shouldnt do that03:45
_4strOkain: how you install it ? ./install ?03:45
kain?03:45
kainno03:45
kaini just opened the bin03:45
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kainin terminal under sudo03:45
_4strOthe game is still running ?03:45
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kainnope03:47
_4strOkain: not sure you install anything  :p03:48
kaini can't even right click and delete the stupid file03:48
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kainlol i've been running it03:48
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kainhow can i just trash the whole folder since it's got root permissions and group?03:48
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_4strOkain: is it you who place the files in /usr/local/games/ ?N03:49
kainthat was just the default location it chose03:49
llutzkain sudo rm -rf /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/03:49
shane2perukain:  do you just want to change the permissions?03:49
_4strOkai03:50
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_4strOkain: type what llutz wrote03:50
llutzkain: after that, look into the other /usr/local subfolders for "BridgeConstruction...:" and delete it too, if one exist03:50
kainok03:51
kainthanks03:51
_4strOkain: and check if you have a ~/BridgeConstructionSetDemo or something like this03:51
shane2perullutz: that should get rid of the folder too.03:51
llutzshane2peru: sure03:51
shane2perullutz: key word there, should. :)03:51
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llutzshane2peru: it will03:51
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kainllutz what is the command for a file not a folder03:53
kaini found 2 files in /usr/bin03:53
llutzkain rm file03:53
KjellvizHi, when i try to access my other (windows) partitions and/or my ext usb hdd, i get this error: Error - kio_media_mounthelper.    hal-storage-removable-media-all-options refused uid 100003:53
juanif i have grub on a partition do i put the place i mounted the boot partion in as --root-directory=/tmp/boot03:54
Kjellvizhal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 for my internal hdd partitions03:54
kainok now should i install the full version of this thing a different way?'03:55
Kjellvizany ideas ?03:55
Kjellviz(it was working fine in gnome btw)03:55
llutzkain: if they don't offer a .deb you will have to install it the known way03:55
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vzduchhow about creating a .deb w/ checkinstall?04:03
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starzargh04:04
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starzanyone good at getting grub to redetect other operating systems?04:04
starzim quad booting and its not working quite right04:04
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shane2perustarz: I have played around quite a bit with Grub!04:09
shane2perustarz: never got to quad booting, only triple booting. :)04:09
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starz;_;04:11
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starzwell i got edgy / xp / feisty / fedora704:11
icecruncherwhy edgy? ust upgrade04:11
starzwhat i really need to do is a redetect of all os's on the hdd's like during the install04:11
shane2perustarz: ok, what is not booting?04:11
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starzicecruncher, i keep one of em edgy b/c its more stable04:11
icecruncherk04:12
starzshane2peru, its not just that there's a lot of crapola thats extra in there04:12
shane2perustarz: than fiesty??04:12
starzbut fedora per se04:12
starzno.04:12
starzdaa4ewt20-439ur023.04:12
starzthere is no need to upgrade.04:12
starzi already HAVE a feisty install.04:12
starzi need to redetect all os's on my hdd's like with the install disk04:12
starzbut i DONT wanna reinstall.04:12
starzive highly customized quite a few things.04:13
shane2peruwho is controlling the grub, you don't have to re-install, just edit your grub menu.04:13
starzthere used to be a way to do this from the alternate install cd but that doesnt work anymore.04:13
starzwhich sud04:13
starzsux even04:13
icecruncherstarz: can you mount them?04:13
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icecruncherstarz: as in are the entries in fstab04:13
icecruncher?04:13
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llutzstarz: sudo update-grub04:14
shane2perustarz: who has control of grub?04:14
starzllutz, tried it didnt work04:14
starzshane2peru, edgy on (hd0,1)04:14
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shane2perustarz: are you in edgy now?04:14
KjellvizHi, when i try to access my other (windows) partitions and/or my ext usb hdd, i get this error: Error - kio_media_mounthelper.    hal-storage-removable-media-all-options refused uid 100004:15
starzllutz, doing so only redetected kernels in the running partition install04:15
starzshane2peru, yes04:15
Kjellvizany ideas ?04:15
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shane2perustarz: in the terminal type:  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste the results in pastebin04:15
starzKjellviz, have you installed ntfs-3g04:15
starzkay04:15
shane2perustarz: as well as sudo fdisk -l04:15
starz/dev/hdb3       /media/hdb3     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    004:16
starz!paste04:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:16
starzfor the record04:16
starzif i dont break avahi dns stuff is usually very slow on feisty04:16
Kjellvizstarz: no, but it was working fine before i installed kde/kubuntu desktop04:16
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starzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27954/04:17
starzKjellviz, what were you running before that04:17
Kjellvizstarz: native ubuntu install04:18
starzgnome eh04:18
Kjellvizstarz: i just apt-getted kde04:18
Kjellvizyer04:18
starzah04:18
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starzKjellviz, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:19
starzive never had that particular problem04:19
starzyour probably missing some of the extras04:19
starzshane2peru, is that making sense there? my pastebin?04:19
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shane2perustarz: yep, which hdd/partition is your Fedora installation?04:20
starzhdb204:20
shane2perustarz: all your titles read Ubuntu :)04:20
starzi know i deleted that bit a minute ago04:20
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llutzstarz: edit menu.lst manually and add needed entries04:20
starzand ran the update-grub04:20
starz:P04:20
starzllutz, i'm trying like heck to avoid that04:20
icecruncherstarz: that's way to may entries04:21
starzicecruncher, probably04:21
starzthus the desire to redetect all os's04:21
starzdo you rememeber with um04:21
Kjellvizstarz: but ive already got kubuntu desktop installed ><04:21
starz5.10 you could use alternate to redetect everything?04:21
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starzjust go through the install process till you got to partitioning and mount things where they should be04:21
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starzthen tell it not to write over any of hte partitions but let it rewrite on swap04:22
starzget the error and skip to grub?04:22
starzthen it would do that?04:22
shane2perustarz: ok, Fedora isn't even in the Menu list!04:22
starzi would grab that disk but it had trouble killing partitions04:22
starzshane2peru, i said i deleted it from the grub04:22
icecruncherstarz: how about backing it up, and rewriting it yoursef04:22
starzit was ubuntustudio before04:22
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starzicecruncher, i legitimately have quite a few kernels in each, and would REALLY rather not.04:23
shane2perustarz: can you mount that partition and paste the /boot/grub/ contents of the fedora partition?04:23
starzsure04:23
shane2perustarz: it is easy to write a new entry, just copy the other above it.04:23
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shane2perustarz: also if there is a menu.lst if you can get me that contents in the fedora partition.04:23
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shane2perustarz: from the fedora partition04:24
icecruncheraye shane2peru04:24
mustasjIs there another gnutella client than limewire/frostwire . preferable not java based.04:24
starzshane2peru, icecruncher http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27956/04:24
starzmustasj, yeah04:24
shane2peruicecruncher: have done it a few times, playing around with distros.04:24
starzgtk-gnutilla i believe04:24
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starzthere are others: sudo apt-cache search gnutilla04:25
starzadd in correct spellings04:25
starzgnutella?04:25
not-Timmaydoes anyone use GIMP?04:25
starzarg i always get that wrong sorry04:25
not-Timmaysorry...BlueFish04:25
starznot-Timmay, eh?04:26
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jussi01not-Timmay: I have, whats the issue?04:26
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shane2perustarz: can you copy lines 14 - 22 from your Fedora menu.lst into your edgy menu.lst at the very end, so as not to mess up any other lines.04:26
mustasjstarz: I belive limewire is based on the gnutella network. I remember in earlier KDE days there was a client apollon, but it looks like it's out of development04:26
not-TimmayIs there a way I can pipe the document i'm working on from my computer to the server that hosts my website?04:27
dwbellhello, kubuntu 7.04 freezes randomly every few days. not under load, mouse pointer still moves. Any Idea where to start looking in the logs?04:27
starzmldonkey-server gtk-gnutella04:27
starzthats basically it mustasj i think04:27
shane2perustarz: did you get that?  Does that make sense?04:27
starzshane2peru, yeah/04:27
starzi get you but04:27
starzwhat about when i update stuff.04:28
starzis there no way to do a full redetect anymore?04:28
starzlike i said there used to be but its had a history of messing up partitions04:28
shane2perustarz: backup that menu.lst and keep it, I'm not sure about updating it automagically.04:28
mustasjstarz: I'll check thoose out, thanks04:28
starzand with the current alternate install disks it ends up reinstalling to dirty mount anyway04:28
starzmustasj, yeah04:28
shane2peruyou are quadbooting man, you need to roll up your sleeves and get into the grub list yourself :)04:28
starzshane2peru, yeah04:29
starzi get u04:29
starzbut i disagree.04:29
starzubuntu has AWESOME detecting of other os's04:29
starzthis should DEFINATELY be a feature04:29
shane2perustarz: there may be another way, but I'm really not sure :)04:29
starz=/04:29
shane2perumost users are not triple booting, much less quad booting :), they are average users, you are above average.04:30
eagles0513875lol04:30
eagles0513875i could be quad booting if i had the space04:30
icecrunchershane2peru: lol04:30
eagles0513875and not filling up my laptop with junk04:30
shane2perueagles0513875: I used to triple boot, but it was too much work.  Dual is enough for me. :)04:30
starzshane2peru, im addicted to trying linux's04:30
eagles0513875lol04:30
starzthats why i quad boot04:30
eagles0513875lol04:30
starzwas using arch linux for a bit04:31
starzdont really like it that much04:31
starzthinking about dsl-n04:31
eagles0513875im addicting to testing out new operating systems even if they r msft crap04:31
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starzi try to try a new one every couple weeks or so04:31
starzlol eagles051387504:31
shane2perustarz: I'm with you, I enjoy trying distros, but they are always going to be messing things up, so you are going to have to learn a lot of that stuff.04:31
starzyeah im lucky on space - 200 + 500gig drives04:31
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starzshane2peru, im starting to think i need to ask devs04:31
etalliWhy aren't we allowed to use colors04:32
etalli!colors04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about colors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
icecruncherstarz: 200 500gigs?04:32
shane2perustarz: I have slowed down quite a bit now, booted into kubuntu this am, couldn't log in, Suse had messed up my /home directory. :)04:32
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eagles0513875shane04:32
eagles0513875chunk suse04:32
eagles0513875its a resource hog04:32
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alvynhi, do somebody know something about installing/using nokia 6230i vith usb cable?04:32
shane2perustarz: I'm wondering if you should be a dev :) lol04:32
icecrunchereagles0513875: yep04:32
eagles0513875i got into suse with 9.0 then bought 10.0 and then found out bout the amazing kubuntu04:33
eagles0513875never want to try another linux distro again04:33
icecrunchereagles0513875: simmilar history04:33
eagles0513875plus ive found the most stable and most advanced 64bit operating system out there04:33
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eagles0513875the best developed one too04:33
shane2perueagles0513875: I'm trying 10.2, it isn't bad04:33
icecrunchershane2peru: I wonder about 10.304:33
icecruncher:)04:33
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eagles0513875ya but still u have to have a rather powerful system with it04:34
starzshane2peru, lol04:34
shane2perustarz: oh, if you can't boot into Fedora, when the grub menu comes up, you can manually edit lines by hitting 'e' on the line you want to edit.04:34
starzif i figure it out i'll post a howto04:34
starznaw itl work like that04:35
starzits just messy04:35
shane2perustarz: save you a bunch of time in re-booting04:35
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shane2peruhowever write down what you get to work as it doesn't save it.04:35
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shane2perustarz: what ever you do, don't re-order your grub menu list, always add others to the bottom, the top one gets overwritten with kernel upgrades.04:36
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shane2perustarz: messy, If you don't like all those options, just comment a few out :) put a # sign before it.04:37
shane2perumakes it easy to add them back in later.04:37
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shane2perueagles0513875: yeah, I think Suse did run a little slower than Kubuntu.04:38
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etalli!ping04:38
ubotupong04:38
sumigamerguys when I ./configure something is it necessary to do it as root??04:38
etalli!ping04:38
sonoftheclayrsumigamer: don't do it as root04:38
etalli!botsnack04:38
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:38
not-Timmayjussi01: Is there a way I can pipe the document i'm working on from my computer to the server that hosts my website?04:38
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eagles0513875trust me it does04:39
jussi01not-Timmay: like live?04:39
not-Timmayyea04:39
jussi01i dont think so, but i could be wrong...04:39
eagles0513875im on a 2ghz athlon 64 machine and i have the same in my desktop04:39
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eagles0513875512mb of ram in there04:39
not-Timmayhmmm yea i think you're right04:39
not-Timmayi'll stick with KATE04:39
eagles0513875takes long to install the os and lode into gnome or kde04:39
eagles0513875not-Timmay: try nano04:39
shane2perueagles0513875: I'm on a 3GHZ with 512MB ram04:40
eagles0513875lol04:40
icecruncheror the mousepad or whatever from xubuntu04:40
eagles0513875well ive overclocked my desktop to 2.904:40
eagles0513875lol04:40
eagles0513875on stock aircooling04:40
shane2peruI forget the processor, it is rather new though,04:40
shane2peruoh, Petnium D, it's a sticker on the box :)04:40
shane2peruthe sticker is on the box :)04:40
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shane2peruI'm going to upgrade the ram to 1GB though.04:41
not-Timmayis there also something that can scan for errors and tell me what the issues is? my webpage works fine for FireFix but when it's launched in IE I get a lot of errors and when I check the line and col it doesn't make sense04:41
icecrunchershane2peru: try /sysinfo in konversation04:41
shane2peruicecruncher: in konversation or terminal?04:41
icecrunchershane2peru: konversation04:41
shane2peruSysinfo for 'shane-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.00GHz at 2400 MHz (5994 bogomips), , RAM: 488/493MB, 143 proc's, 1.19h up04:41
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shane2peruicecruncher: that is cool04:42
shane2peruicecruncher: there must be a list of those commands around somewhere?04:42
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icecrunchershane2peru: setting -> configure konversation04:42
starzgah?04:42
starzshane2peru, no its not that04:43
icecrunchershane2peru: then command aliases04:43
starzthere should be an option to redetect everything.04:43
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starzsay you have the linux-386 package in04:43
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shane2peruicecruncher: found them, thanks04:43
shane2perustarz: what happened?04:43
icecrunchershane2peru: np04:43
starzthats just gonna keep the latest 386 kernel in and if you dont trim it youll end up with quite a few04:43
starzoh im gonna check out supergrubdisk04:43
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starzmm04:44
starzactually nope doesnt work04:44
starzdarn04:44
shane2perustarz: oh yeah, I forgot about supergrubdisk, backup your current menu.lst though.04:44
shane2perustarz: don't loose what you have :)04:44
shane2perustarz: what error did it give you?04:45
starzo thellwith it04:45
starzim gonna try this other other OTHER method04:45
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starzi'll be back in about 10 minutes either way04:45
starzwell04:45
starzif it goes bad more like 4504:45
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sumigamerguys when I ./configure super karamba, it says that Qt (  >=Qt 3.3 and <4.0) and to check the headers and libraries04:46
sumigamerguys when I ./configure super karamba, it says that Qt (  >=Qt 3.3 and <4.0) and to check the headers and libraries04:47
pagsumigamer, is there some reason, why you want to install from outside the repos?04:48
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sumigamerpag, can I download that from the repos??04:48
pag!info superkaramba04:48
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB04:48
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ksivaji!pastebin04:49
pagsumigamer, remember to make sure you have universe enabled :)04:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:49
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sumigamerpag, how  do I enable universe in adept??04:50
pag!universe | sumigamer04:50
ubotusumigamer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:50
khaije1i'm looking for widgets to display system info on kubuntu. I've used karamba and liked it, but is there anything that is optimized for beryl?04:50
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ksivajiplease someone answer for my general question http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27962/04:51
grahamHey, is there anyway I can make a sort of login script so that when a user logs in it mounts a samba share with their username04:52
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icecruncherlol you see the no download limit?04:53
icecrunchernm04:53
llutzksivaji: when using tcp/ip data isn't encrypted by default, it's just splitted  to fit the paket-size04:53
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llutzksivaji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCPIP04:55
ksivajillutz thanks04:55
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SillyZgmornin, Im a cable-modem user/subscriber and under windows I had to use a program called TCPOptimize to get the proper tcpip setting to obtain full speed from my isp, ive done a few tests here in kubuntu and it seems I need to do the same again , any such application for linux like winblows' tcpoptimize?04:56
manu_hi i wanted to create a small flashmovie is this possible with linux? without this macromedia windows commercial software?04:56
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manu_i didnt found any software04:57
llutzSillyZ: 1. it's called windows 2. use ifconfig or ip04:57
manu_only heard something about it with openoffice but didnt found it04:57
shane2perumanu_: I think that OpenOffice Presentation can export to flash04:57
shane2peruI think you have to export to a flash file, never done it though.04:57
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SillyZllutz: well yes, i know its called whinhosed , I guess Ill have to take a look at what tcpoptimize did for exact configuration of the tcpip stack and then bring that similiar config over to kubuntu04:58
manu_shane2peru: yap have seen it but its only i frame without animation and my  aim is to put single frames ov a blender rendering movie in flash behind each other (like a gif animation) with transaprent background04:58
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dr_willisIn theory you could figure out what settings it set on windows. and set them under linux by hand.04:58
dr_willisabout all it could set i think would be the mtu, and a few other things.  Aint tweaked that stuff in years.04:59
SillyZaye dr_willis04:59
SillyZit was mainly the tcp_receive window that got opened up iirc , mtu was 150004:59
dr_willisheck - i forget even how to set that stuff under linux now.05:00
ksivajishane2peru is it possible to create presentation movie with openoffice05:00
shane2perumanu_: these are more video, but I thought I saw something under one of these:  Kino or avidemux05:00
shane2peruksivaji: not sure about that, I would check those two programs I just posted.05:01
SillyZhows about flash player under kubuntu w/ thunderbird ? -- Ive installed it, plugins are in /home/name/.mozillia/plugins but still no go05:01
shane2peruksivaji: or qdvdauthor05:02
manu_shane2peru: hm and terhe is no tool like macromedia flash? not available for a such big distribution05:02
dr_willisall ive ever done is apt-get install the flash stuff. and it works for me under firefox. and Konqueror but not opera. :)05:02
manu_i cant this flash speech and im not a friend of flash but i need a small movie05:02
to6etohaw to install kde 4 ?05:02
shane2perumanu_: not really sure, I don't work with flash much check here: http://www.linuxalt.com/05:02
manu_only frame after frame, pixelgraphics05:02
to6etohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php05:03
to6etohmm ?05:03
shane2perumanu_: one of those video programs I recommended lets you add pictures and make a movie out of still frames.05:03
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SillyZwhats the apt-get package name for macromedias' flash player anyone?05:05
ksivajiis there any thing in linux like windows movie maker?05:05
dr_willis!flash05:05
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:05
llutzSillyZ: flashplugin-nonfree05:05
manu_shane2peru: one of those... which? both?05:05
shane2peruksivaji: I think kino is the closest thing to movie maker05:05
SillyZthanks05:05
manu_and is it easy?05:05
manu_or have i first read some tutorials05:05
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shane2perumanu_: I really don't remember I was making something else and noticed it.05:06
miosalguien habla castellano?05:06
shane2perumanu_: I think it is kino05:06
llutzmanu_: ManDVD, ManSlide,but both are not in the repos05:07
shane2peru!spanish05:07
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:07
SillyZhmmm well that didnt work, flashplugin-nonfree, is that for Konq? or firebird?05:07
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manu_llutz: i prefer a program like adobe photoshop ime05:07
shane2perumios: si hablo espaol, pero es mi segunda idioma :)05:07
manu_imageready but for flash05:07
llutzmanu_: gimp05:07
manu_or like the big macromedia suite05:08
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llutzmanu_: then use windows05:08
miosshane2peru: necesito ayuda con adept manager05:09
manu_llutz: i like linux very much and tehre is alternative for every thing even crap^^ and there is no reasonable flash software?05:09
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SillyZok it seems its working in konq, but unable to click on anything once a flash is loaded, but firefox still gets nothing05:09
shane2perumios: estoy aprendiendo KDE, entonces puedo tratar de ayudarte, pero no te prometo nada. :)05:09
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dr_willisflash software - to make flash? call the makers of flash and complaine..05:09
miosshane2peru: no puedo instalar nada05:09
llutzmanu_: flash is proprietary crap05:09
dr_willisIf they wont write it.. well.....05:09
BluesKaj_WTH is going on with freenode ..it rejects my nick saying it's already in use when it isn't05:09
dr_willisif they wont license the specs/info to do it...05:09
icecruncherthey have a linux version... coding only though05:10
icecruncherfor flash05:10
PazyCan someone help me, im new to kubuntu and after i updated it (using the full update option on Adept package manager thing) I cant get to the desktop05:10
dr_willisive always wished flash would just DIE off. :)05:10
dr_willisseen it used badly - in too many bad ways.05:10
icecruncheryes05:10
manu_llutz: yes i know, i make websites without flashsupport  and it has many diadvatages, but now i have to make a little movie05:11
shane2perumios: eso no es bien, no estoy seguro de esto.  quizas en #kubuntu-es encuentras ayuda, pues no se mucho sobre adept.05:11
dr_willisThen theres ' Homestarrunner.com '    :005:11
miosshane2peru: ok muchas gracias :-)05:11
shane2perumios: o si hablas ingles pregunta aqui05:11
icecruncherhaha05:11
manu_and i dont have the macromedia suite so i have to download it illegally to make this stupid video :(05:11
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shane2perumios: de nada.05:11
miosmi ingles es muy pobre :(05:11
eagles0513875mios solo ingles aqui por favor05:11
dr_willisi wonder if ffmpeg can convert avi to flash.05:11
eagles0513875!es05:11
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:11
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eagles0513875para ti mios05:12
manu_mios: hablo tambien espanol05:12
icecruncherdr_willis: I hate flash based websites expecially05:12
icecrunchernasty05:12
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dr_willisicecruncher,  im finding more and more web sites taht i cant even print. :( which is annoying.05:12
ksivaji!kino05:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:12
eagles0513875manu i mios por favor usar espanol por favor05:12
eagles0513875!es05:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:12
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icecruncherdr_willis: oh yeah, tell me about it lol05:13
dr_willisNo Hoblo.05:13
shane2perueagles0513875: there is never anyone in the Spanish rooms. :)05:13
eagles0513875i dont mean to be mean but in the rules this is strictly an english room05:13
shane2peruI just checked it out, and there are five people05:13
shane2perueagles0513875: understood.05:14
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eagles0513875dont take it personally shane2peru05:14
shane2perustarz: and how did it go?05:14
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dr_willisi can rember like 4 phrases from my Spanish 101 class.05:14
dr_willis:)05:14
PazyCan someone help me, im new to kubuntu and after i updated it (using the full update option on Adept package manager thing) I cant get to the desktop05:14
dr_willis2 of which can get your face slapped... :)05:14
shane2perueagles0513875: no problem, I joined the spanish room :)05:14
eagles0513875u in there 205:15
eagles0513875lol05:15
dr_willisPazy,  so it worked.. then after the update, it stopped loading the KDM login manager?05:15
shane2perudr_willis: yeah, probably better stick to the English room then :) lol05:15
user_/server ir.lv05:15
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BluesKaj_dr_willis, any other reports of ppl with registered nicks having trouble logging on to freenode ?05:15
eagles0513875nope05:15
dr_willisBluesKaj_,  not that i have seen05:15
eagles0513875i havent had any problems today05:16
BluesKaj_weird05:16
icecrunchernope05:16
eagles0513875u having trouble05:16
BluesKaj_nothing but probs05:16
eagles0513875?05:16
PazyIt worked (including turning off/on over a couple of days) then I updated and i get the bootloader and a Kubuntu logo/loading bar then a flashing underscore then nothing05:16
manu_llutz: still here?05:16
eagles0513875!ops05:16
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!05:16
llutzmanu_: yes05:16
eagles0513875any ops having problems logging in to freenode05:16
icecruncherBluesKaj_: what probs?05:16
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BluesKaj_freenode rejects my login due my nick already in use , when it's not05:17
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eagles0513875ohhhhhhhh05:17
LongPointyStick?05:17
eagles0513875that is whats called a ghost05:17
icecruncher!ghost | BluesKaj_05:17
ubotuBluesKaj_: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>05:17
eagles0513875ya05:17
eagles0513875lol05:17
manu_llutz: you say i shall use windoze but i want so i'm not able to create a little flashmovie still  containing images05:17
eagles0513875that is what u gotta do blues lol that happened to me once before05:17
BluesKaj_eagles0513875, thx05:17
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eagles0513875no prob05:17
shane2perudoes anyone know where to find my liblamemp3.so file for Audacity?05:17
BluesKaj_icecruncher, dr_willis, thx05:18
icecrunchermp05:18
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icecruncher*no05:18
icecruncheragh np05:18
obelix_#ubuntu05:18
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shane2perunevermind, found it :)05:18
llutzmanu_: i said: if you need win-apps you should use windows. and if there aren't linux-alternatives for your needs, you'll need win-apps. flash doesn't like free software :)05:18
eagles0513875blues did that help05:19
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manu_llutz: yeah i changed many applications of windoze  to opensource ones but dont know if terhe is a software for my needs, i'm only wondering that many apps export to flashs but none seems to work like a gif animator05:20
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dr_willisI think ive seen png animation features, (and gif animation?) in GIMP05:20
icecruncherHey BluesKaj05:21
BluesKajhi icecruncher05:21
dr_willisthey take a set of images and smoosh them into a animated file. :)05:21
kazoobuntumanu_: http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ may provide a roundabout way of doing what you ask - you could use avidemux or mencoder to create an AVI movie, then play it while screencapturing with wink.  Not robust, but ok for a one shot deal.05:21
elcucohi, anyone else sseing that katapult is taking 100% constantly?05:21
llutzmanu_: convert (imagemagick) might create animated-gifs05:21
dr_willis'smoosh' = technical term for 'some how i dont understand'05:21
dr_willisheh.05:21
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llutzmanu_: but no idea, how to convert that into flash05:21
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BluesKajtried that google desktop for linux ...not recommended ...total fiasco, tied up my pc ans stalled everything ...don't think it's recommended for feisty anyway05:22
dr_willisConverting AVI video to SWF using FFMPEG Scout and SWF Scout05:22
icecruncherlol05:22
icecruncher!worksforme05:22
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:22
dr_willishttp://www.bytescout.com/ffmpegscout_avi_to_swf.html05:22
icecruncherI works for me!05:22
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dr_willis!willworkforfood.05:23
icecruncherlol05:23
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llutzBluesKaj: google-desktop: why should i show an us-company all my data? :)05:23
manu_kazoobuntu: dr_willis hm i dont have a movie just single pictures with alpha value and like creating a gif i wnat to make a flash cause i have more than 256 colors and nicer transaprency05:24
manu_it shall be like a gif animation with png05:24
BluesKajthere's a nondisclosure option which most ppl will use , i'm sure05:24
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nicolashello!05:25
llutzBluesKaj: and you would trust it?05:25
icecruncherhi nicolas05:25
dr_willisocnvert it to avi, then to flash.. of course.. if you can make an animated gif/png out of it. why not use that instead.. but  i guess it all depends on your needs.05:25
icecruncherllutz: I do, dont really care though, nothing important05:25
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llutzicecruncher: it's not a question of"important or not"05:26
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icecruncherllutz: I mena, they won't know anything important05:27
manu_dr_willis:  png supports animation?05:27
manu_i need it for websites05:27
nicolasi've a pb, again... i'm intalling FullSync but I can't edit fullsync.sh they say i haven't the right05:27
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manu_so the best way would be swf, cause gif gets to big and has less colors05:27
nicolasdo you how can i make it work?05:27
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dr_willisIm pretty sure there was sone animaged png thing..05:28
icecruncherBluesKaj: there is a nondisclosure thingy05:28
manu_nicolas: sudo05:28
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nicolasin Kate?05:28
_4strO!kdesu05:28
dr_willisAnimated PNG: There's a format called MNG which is intended as a replacement for animated GIF, but without the limitations imposed by GIF05:28
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:29
dr_willis(for instance, MNG animations can have full color depth and either partial or full transparency)05:29
_4strOnicolas: kdesu kate yourfile05:29
dr_willishttp://www.shallowsky.com/linux/imageformats.html05:29
nicolasok thanks! i'll try05:29
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pinheirohey dudes05:31
pinheironeed a bit of help with a minor issue05:31
nicolasworks well! thanks a lot!!05:32
pinheirowere can i find a nice mplyer repository ;)05:32
llutzpinheiro: medibuntu05:32
pinheiroall the codecs working?05:32
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pinheiroor just the ones without patent issues05:33
manu_dr_willis: and this format works in the browsers? how to create MNG?05:33
llutzpinheiro: all i need work05:33
_4strOpinheiro: medibuntu05:33
pinheironevermind read it05:33
pinheiroMedibuntu (Multimedia, Entertainment & Distractions In Ubuntu) is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons (copyright, license, patent, etc).05:33
pinheiro:)05:33