[12:15] <dianne_> !winmodem
[12:15] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:15] <brendon> Ray-: Hold on... typing for you
[12:15] <Ray-> brendon: okey Thank you.
[12:15] <intelikey> Ray- that's what he's telling you.  in konsole type; man interfaces   and it will explain how the interfaces file works.
[12:16] <intelikey> and to be patient
[12:16] <jhutchins_lt> Well, time to go feed the horses.
[12:17] <Ray-> hmm
[12:17] <intelikey> hay
[12:17] <sweettooth> hey does anyone know how to stop particular program from launching at startup?
[12:18] <intelikey> sweettooth kcontrol for things that kde starts maybe ?   and ~/.kde/Autostart    also  update-rc.d  for things that upstart starts          is that right ?
[12:19] <brendon> Ray-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27874/
[12:19] <intelikey> i'm not versed in upstart.   only sysV
[12:20] <Ray-> brendon: okey thank you
[12:20] <Ray-> I have to restart the X right?
[12:20] <brendon> I assume we are talking wired here?
[12:20] <sweettooth> intelikey, im trying to stop my postgresql server from loading
[12:20] <brendon> NOOOOOO, no restart X
[12:20] <Ray-> okey
[12:20] <Ray-> Thanks
[12:20] <brendon> X is a window manager
[12:20] <brendon> not a network anything.
[12:20] <Ray-> hummm
[12:20] <Ray-> okey
[12:21] <Ray-> thank you
[12:21] <Prestwick> Close one there Brendon.
[12:21] <sweettooth> intelikey, where is update-rc.d anyway?
[12:21] <Ray-> hope it will work
[12:21] <brendon> What you want is sudo ifdown eth0 (or whatever)
[12:21] <brendon> and then sudo ifup eth0
[12:21] <Ray-> what?
[12:21] <Ray-> ohh
[12:21] <Ray-> okey
[12:21] <brendon> what what?  more words please
[12:22] <Ray-> rebooting
[12:22] <brendon> Good luck
[12:22] <intelikey> sweettooth should be in the path.  it's a cli app
[12:22] <brendon> sweettooth: which update-rc.d says /usr/sbin/upda...
[12:23] <sweettooth> ic
[12:24] <sweettooth> hmm, i will have a go and restart, see if it is disabled or not
[12:25] <brendon> whats with all the rebooting?  This isn't windows, you know!
[12:26] <graham> Hey, I want to join this Linux machine to a Windows domain so members of that domain can login, how can I do that?
[12:27] <intelikey> !ssh
[12:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:27] <intelikey> !samba
[12:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:27] <intelikey> more info that one wants is readily avalable
[12:28] <intelikey> !vnc
[12:28] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:28] <intelikey> !freeNX
[12:28] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:29] <Prestwick> Hmm, will the next Kubuntu have KDE 4?
[12:29] <brendon> Probably
[12:30] <Prestwick> woo
[12:30] <sweettooth> hmm, postgresql doesn't seem to be in the path
[12:30] <brendon> But, you can get it now if you want!
[12:30] <Prestwick> WOO
[12:30] <intelikey> Prestwick not as default.  but avalable  most likely
[12:30] <mike-kubuntu> for some reason the wrong nvidia kernel module is getting loaded since my update to the 96** drivers, when my kernel fist loads up it loads the 76** drivers and x wont start because nvidia glx is 96**, however, if i do an rmmod nvidia, then modprobe nvidia, the correct drivers get loaded, i've tried using module-assistant to recompile the drivers by hand and it still loads the old drivers, i have the version of nvidia-kernel-
[12:30] <sweettooth> how does one use update.rc-d to check what apps will be loaded on startup?
[12:30] <brendon> sweettooth: I just go to the rc*.d directory and look
[12:31] <intelikey> mike-kubuntu the initramfs been regenerated with the wrong driver ?
[12:31] <brendon> type "runlevel" to find which rc?.d to look at
[12:31] <intelikey> sweettooth man update-rc.d
[12:31] <mike-kubuntu> intelikey, maybe, do you know how to fix it
[12:31] <brendon> else type "man update-rc.d
[12:32] <sweettooth> oh haha, yes indeed, i have long been suspecting its there
[12:32] <sweettooth> saw it in rc0.d
[12:32] <intelikey> mike-kubuntu make a new one ?
[12:32] <intelikey> brendon every one in *ubuntu is in runlevel 2
[12:33] <brendon> I didn't want to assume
[12:33] <brendon> sweettooth: links that start with 'K' kill the thing, 'S' starts
[12:33] <mike-kubuntu> intelikey: never done that before, can you pint me to a guide?
[12:33] <sweettooth> rc2.d indeed
[12:33] <brendon> rc0.d is "shutdown runlevel
[12:33] <brendon> rc6.d is "reboot"
[12:34] <sweettooth> any links to rc level guides?
[12:34] <brendon> since we are at rc2, I assume rc1 is single user?
[12:34] <rixon> Ever since I modprobed bcm43xx, knetworkmanager seems to have problems keeping a stable wired connection
[12:35] <brendon> sweettooth: google.  But since it is a convention, different distros use different levels.
[12:35] <intelikey> mike-kubuntu i'm not sure there is a good one.    man mkinitramfs    for the man page.     the final command will be something like   sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` `uname -r`     but you will probably need to tweek the config in /etc/mkinitramfs/  first...
[12:35] <rixon> Already established connections are kept alive but new ones fail to syncronize. May be some problem with default device?
[12:35] <brendon> like rc2 == multi-user no window manager :)
[12:36] <intelikey> mike-kubuntu also of note blacklisting the bad driver might help.
[12:36] <rixon> Shouldn't networkmanager use only one device at a time?
[12:36] <brendon> sweettooth: look in inittab
[12:36] <Ray-> didnt ring my bell ...
[12:37] <brendon> Ray-: welcome back
[12:37] <Ray-> Thanks
[12:37] <intelikey> mike see   /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common   on that.
[12:37] <brendon> how did it go?
[12:37] <Ray-> I wonder maybe the kubuntu didnt see my builtin network card?
[12:37] <Ray-> I will show
[12:37] <brendon> I doubt that, unless it's wireless
[12:37] <intelikey> !wifi
[12:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:38] <TheGateKeeper> !vi
[12:38] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[12:38] <Ray-> brendon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27879/
[12:39] <Arwen> ubotu failed to mention ed o.O
[12:39] <brendon> I didn't see in ifup command?
[12:39] <brendon> you turned off the interface twice!
[12:40] <brendon> ifup should give you no error, then you can try ping
[12:40] <Ray-> I did ifup
[12:40] <prestwick> Anyone got the link to the beryl/XGL howto?
[12:40] <brendon> not in the paste!
[12:40] <brendon> ubotu: add "Cream"
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add "cream" - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <prestwick> !beryl
[12:41] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:41] <prestwick> ah hah
[12:41] <Ray-> brendon: I will reboot?
[12:41] <brendon> It should bring up the interface now.
[12:41] <brendon> Unless you configured the wrong eth??
[12:42] <Ray-> brendon: I got only one network card
[12:42] <Ray-> and I show you the ifconfig
[12:42] <brendon> then it should be eth0
[12:42] <Ray-> and you did the interfaces
[12:42] <Ray-> I tried to ping but it didnt work :<
[12:43] <brendon> what did ifconfig show after the interfaces changes?
[12:43] <mike-kubuntu> intelikey: thanks, I'll go try a few things
[12:43] <Ray-> the same
[12:43] <Ray-> no new IP
[12:44] <brendon> Ok, that is wrong
[12:44] <Ray-> whats the wrong
[12:44] <brendon> BTW, to restart all networking, instead of restarting X, use sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:45] <brendon> I was just typing in frustration for you.  It is wrong that is doesn't work after you config'd it
[12:46] <brendon> did you look at the man pages for interfaces?
[12:46] <brendon> and ifconfig?
[12:46] <keaton> Big big big problem. My Xserver just went up in smoke.
[12:46] <gemidjy_> I don't have auto-competion on commands :/
[12:46] <keaton> Some one PLEASE help me.
[12:46] <gemidjy_> i.e. apt-get install fire<TAB>
[12:47] <Ray-> brendon: I did change the interfaces and you did typed it I saved it
[12:47] <Ray-> should I give up?
[12:47] <pass> e.g*
[12:47] <brendon> No don't give up.
[12:47] <Arwen> NEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER!
[12:48] <brendon> You are close.
[12:48] <Ray-> then there is a bug in my kubuntu? where to kill it heh
[12:48] <brendon> No, you probably have a tiny mistake in either your config files or your procedures
[12:49] <Ray-> hmm
[12:49] <Ray-> why it wont work when I change it in the graphic mode ..
[12:49] <Ray-> it says invalid gateway ip
[12:50] <brendon> I like using the command line tools, cause they give more info.
[12:50] <brendon> ifup and ifdown (man ifup) have options to force changes and to be verbose
[12:50] <Ray-> okey, is there a way to add this IP as interface add thingie so I can at least join here from the kubuntu
[12:50] <brendon> I take it you are setting the gateway the same as what XP is using.
[12:51] <Ray-> yeah
[12:51] <Ray-> XP works fine, why kubuntu aint
[12:51] <brendon> Kubuntu isn't working because you have not got the config quite right.
[12:52] <brendon> Here is what I'd do.
[12:52] <Schuenemann> !subtitle
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subtitle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <Schuenemann> !subtitles
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subtitles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <keaton> Okay, I REALLY need some help from you guys. My Xserver just stopped working after I updated my restricted kernel headers, or something like that. It came up in Adept updater, and I ran it without thinking about it (in hindsight a terrible idea.) Now my nvidia drivers appear to have stopped working entirely, and the installer can't compile a kernel interface when I try to run the installer. Can someone PLEASE give me some tiny smidgen
[12:53] <brendon> Go into kubuntu, with a list of hte commands we have mentioned.
[12:53] <gemidjy_> I don't have auto-competion on commands :/ i.e. apt-get install fire<TAB>
[12:53] <brendon> Use ifup and ifdown with -v and look for messages that look like errors.
[12:53] <HymnToLife> keaton, install the headers for your kernel, and remove the restricted modules
[12:54] <Ray-> brendon: okey
[12:54] <brendon> double check that the interfaces file matches what the interfaces man page says.
[12:54] <keaton> HymnToLife: can you give me specific commands for that? I don't remember the package names.
[12:54] <Ray-> brendon: that was the default interfaces
[12:55] <brendon> and check that ifconfig shows that the interface has gone down/up etc.
[12:55] <purpleposeidon> happy gplv3day! :D
[12:55] <brendon> "default interfaces"?
[12:55] <Arwen> .......
[12:55] <Ray-> I mean, I did install kubuntu and it was like that
[12:55] <HymnToLife> keaton, sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted* && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:56] <brendon> Ray-: Ok.  no harm in changing it, especially since it doesn't work anyway.
[12:56] <brendon> Hold on, let me double check what I pasted to you
[12:56] <Ray-> okey
[12:57] <Schuenemann> isn't there a decent subtitle manage for linux? One that I don't have to type the times manually?
[12:57] <Arwen> Schuenemann, explain. What do you mean by "subtitle manage"?
[12:57] <keaton> HymnToLife: alright, I'll try running this. brb.
[12:58] <brendon> It looks OK.  I'd also comment out eth1 on down (# at the start of the line) since you don't have those
[12:58] <Schuenemann> manager* yeah, srt files, not "real" subtitles
[12:58] <needtoknow> My sound doesnt work
[12:58] <Ray-> brendon: okey
[12:58] <Ray-> brb
[12:58] <Arwen> Schuenemann, eh... real as in ASS? or real as in hard sub?
[12:58] <Arwen> you could try aegisub or just plain old subrip
[12:59] <needtoknow> Realteak something or other
[12:59] <Schuenemann> I want to create a text file and then merge it to the video with mencoder
[12:59] <keaton> HymnToLife: The command went though alright, I'm going to try running the driver installer again.
[12:59] <Schuenemann> Arwen, is aegisub for that?
[12:59] <brendon> I did make one tiny mistake.  The "network" should have been "netmask"
[12:59] <brendon> ooops
[12:59] <Arwen> Schuenemann, eh... you can't merge text files with mencoder afaik
[12:59] <Schuenemann> you can, I just did it yesterdau
[12:59] <Schuenemann> yesterday*
[12:59] <Arwen> but yeah, aeigsub is for editing subtitles, any kind.
[12:59] <Ray-> brendon: just a question
[01:00] <Ray-> eth0:avah Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:D1:43:61:E6
[01:00] <Arwen> srt files are best written in a text editor though
[01:00] <Ray-> what is the avah, does that ring a bell ?
[01:00] <Schuenemann> "mencoder hissyfit.avi -sub hissyfit.srt -o hissyfit_subbed.avi -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4" was the command
[01:00] <Arwen> ok
[01:00] <Arwen> never mind (subtitles in AVI = fail)
[01:00] <needtoknow> Try using vlc, select movie, select subtittles
[01:00] <needtoknow> bingo
[01:00] <needtoknow> worked for me
[01:00] <Arwen> needtoknow, ....no, he wants it *in the file*
[01:00] <needtoknow> when all else failed
[01:01] <Arwen> because having seperate subtitles fails
[01:01] <Schuenemann> do you have to type the times for the subtitles in aegisub? I would like something better, like watching the video and clicking the exact times for start and end
[01:01] <needtoknow> *ohh* (thats going to be hard)
[01:01] <brendon> Ray-: That is an autoconfig address thing
[01:01] <Arwen> Schuenemann, honestly, you should learn a lesson from the anime freaks. Matroska is one of the better containers to embed subtitles in since you can attach fonts too
[01:01] <Arwen> Schuenemann, uh, yes, I think you can seek graphically
[01:01] <Schuenemann> man, I'll send the video to youtube
[01:01] <Ray-> hmm okey brb
[01:02] <Arwen> lol, youtube won't accept softsubs
[01:02] <BluDog_Anchorite> can anyone recomend a linux app to create barcodes out of plain text strings ?
[01:02] <Arwen> you'll have to burn them in
[01:02] <brendon> Ray-: It gets stuck in there for interfaces that are not correctly configured
[01:02] <Arwen> BluDog_Anchorite, eh...
[01:02] <Schuenemann> wasn't that what I wanted? I even told you the command
[01:02] <Arwen> oh, never mind, lol
[01:02] <Arwen> (aegisub it is)
[01:03] <Schuenemann> hmm, not in my repositories =(
[01:03] <BluDog_Anchorite> a program i put in "dart gun" and it gives me a barcode of that
[01:03] <Arwen> Schuenemann, I'll fetch a link
[01:03] <Schuenemann> thanks
[01:03] <Arwen> http://www.malakith.net/aegiwiki/Main_Page
[01:04] <Arwen> but it's probably overkill if SRT is all you need
[01:04] <Schuenemann> compilation from source? My worst nightmare :-)
[01:05] <Arwen> hmm ,yeah, does look like overkill...
[01:05] <Arwen> kate it is then? :-P
[01:05] <Schuenemann> the problem is having to type/choose the times manually
[01:05] <Arwen> ye
[01:05] <Schuenemann> it is a pain to have it synchronously
[01:08] <Minataku> BluDog_Anchorite: Does kbarcode still exist?
[01:08] <Minataku> I believe there's a CLI app that does it, which kbarcode is a frontend for
[01:08] <brendon> Schuenemann: compile from code ==> text adventure game!
[01:08] <ed1t> does NetworkManager work with KDE?
[01:09] <Schuenemann> brendon, sorry, I didn't get it
[01:09] <brendon> Schuenemann: you said your worst nightmare, but it is really just an adventure game
[01:09] <sparr> how can i avoid clamav upgrade warnings in my cron output?  without updating clamav more often than packaging allows
[01:10] <Schuenemann> brendon, a very boring adventure, in my opinion
[01:10] <Schuenemann> hehe
[01:10] <brendon> And a long one
[01:10] <brendon> hehe
[01:10] <Schuenemann> it should be called a challenge: try to get to the end of this without getting mad and breaking everything
[01:11] <brendon> yes!
[01:11] <Arwen> hmm, aegisub's build instructions look really complicated o.O
[01:12] <Schuenemann> I felt the same when I knew I had to compile
[01:12] <nathan> HI again, I try to run KDETV, however when i load it gives me following message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27884/ can anyone help?
[01:18] <brendon> everybody left?
[01:22] <nathan> looks like it brendon.. heh
[01:22] <prestwick> Hey guys, I've lost sound and the following error "device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)" keeps popping up randomly.
[01:22] <nathan> althrough it looks lke i'll like linux... its a bloody pain to get started
[01:22] <brendon> prestwick: no, not a sound problem... Yesterday I invested 14 hours getting my sound back
[01:23] <cwo4mann> whos an expert on figureing out which usb port is which??
[01:23] <cwo4mann> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 09ae:0001 Tripp Lite
[01:23] <cwo4mann> the startup script want to know if this is "/dev/ttyS0? or sometheing else ... and I have tried all kinds of combinations without success
[01:23] <prestwick> Brendon: ah, what kind of problem is it?
[01:23] <cwo4mann>  its the backup UPS device
[01:23] <brendon> Mine was that I'd disabled the MODEM in BIOS
[01:24] <cwo4mann> sorry brendon and prest ... i interrupted .. didn't see your query first ... apologies
[01:24] <prestwick> Oh, well, I had sound before, then did a software upgrade and now its gone
[01:24] <brendon> cwo4mann: no probelm.  This is "multithreaded" for extra confusion
[01:24] <prestwick> No probs CWO
[01:25] <brendon> Hey Ray- is back!
[01:25] <Ray-> brendon: there were a mistake, the netmask you set it as network
[01:25] <Ray-> now the ping is working :)
[01:25] <Ray-> but I still have a problem
[01:25] <brendon> Sorry, my bad.
[01:25] <Ray-> the dns
[01:25] <Ray-> it is not resolving the hostnames
[01:26] <brendon> You didn't ask about DNS.  that is a completely different file LOL
[01:26] <Ray-> yeah I know the internet worked I ping on IP's it work but when I open yahoo.com it save uknown host name
[01:26] <brendon> you'd be wanting /etc/resolv.conf
[01:27] <Ray-> aha
[01:27] <brendon> dhcp sets that up automatically, now you need to do it manually
[01:27] <brendon> you need a "nameserver x.x.x.x" entry in resolve.conf
[01:27] <Ray-> I logged into the router I saw primary dns 2.2.2.10 and 2ndery 4.5.6.7
[01:28] <Ray-> those what I should use?
[01:28] <Ray-> I will try to login on the kubuntu at freenode IP
[01:28] <brendon> Yes, add both.  Linux can use a whole bunch
[01:28] <Ray-> so we can handle it from there
[01:28] <Ray-> BRB
[01:28] <brendon> I'm using Konversation under Kubuntu for irc
[01:29] <cwo4mann> so, ne1 can tell me how to discover which /dev/tty or /dev/usb I will need to plug into the script??
[01:30] <brendon> cwo4mann: I'm not sure.  that new fangled usb stuff makes me nervous
[01:30] <brendon> Which script?
[01:30] <brendon> What are you trying to set up?
[01:30] <cwo4mann> well I know, and I really don't have a clue as to how to translate the lsusb command output into an actual device
[01:30] <cwo4mann> well, the ups script
[01:31] <cwo4mann> for the ups (tripplite) has a usb cable so the system can keep track of power ups and down
[01:31] <cwo4mann> the script has an empty spot where I am supposed to plug in which usb port my system allocates for that particular ups unit.
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> so very lovely.  amarok is still not woeking :\
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> remove, purge, and reinstall.
[01:32] <cwo4mann> I did an lsusb and it returned  Bus 001 Device 003: ID 09ae:0001 Tripp Lite ...
[01:32] <brendon> I'm looking to see if I can figure it out
[01:32] <Minataku> Ugh... from Windows to Mac... if that's not a prime example of "Out of the frying pan and into the fire" nothing is
[01:33] <cwo4mann> hey Daisuke ... I had a tought time with amarok and finally did the install over again trick.  It turned outxmms (the engine) wasn't all there
[01:33] <Minataku> That's the kind of thing that literally dooms our digital world
[01:33] <cwo4mann> amarok would partially run, but no music....
[01:33] <cwo4mann> so i found out by trial and error that it was all xmms's fault :-)
[01:34] <cwo4mann> but I switched to kaffeine and it is problem free
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> um, it was working perfectly until i upgraded to 1.4.6
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> so i figured i'd give it a shot.
[01:35] <cwo4mann> oh crap ... the old "upgrade" problem.  I know that is what happened to me with fedora 6 to 7 and caused me to get rid of fedora and switch to kbuntu
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> it worked!
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome.
[01:35] <cwo4mann> anyway, anyone figure out how to do this usb port thing yet?????
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> apparently something in the old settings didn't agree with the new version
[01:35] <cwo4mann> cwo4mann bows
[01:35] <brendon> cwo4mann: not yet
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> odd, but it works, so i don't particularly care :D
[01:36] <cwo4mann> ah so desuka.  Joto, Ne?
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ?
[01:36] <Arwen> NO MORE FAKE JAP TALK
[01:36] <nathan> ne 1 got spare time on their hands?
[01:36] <cwo4mann> that was and english translation of Japanese -- means "oh that's it then ... good!"
[01:36] <Arwen> I believe he tried to say "I see. What now?"
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> nathan: i think i've got some saved up in this ancient dagger
[01:37] <Arwen> cwo4mann, get out of here, otaku freak
[01:37] <cwo4mann> hey, first of all don't use the word "Jap" and second it is not fake.  I was stationed in Japan with the military and think very highly of the Japanese people,
[01:37] <cwo4mann> got that?
[01:37] <nathan> daisuke the ancient dagger wouldn't have the wisdom of getting KDE TV to work would it lol
[01:37] <Arwen> ...
[01:38] <Arwen> hint: this is a *English* channel
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> nathan: doubtful.
[01:38] <nathan> lol think im a bit stuck with this one
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> but if you impale yourself in a pit of spikes, you can rewind time and try again!
[01:38] <nathan> lol
[01:38] <brendon> cwo4mann: Have you poked around in /dev/bus/usb?
[01:38] <nathan> ill show ya message anyway, see if you recognise, or may know who can advise
[01:39] <cwo4mann> yes, i looked at some of the devices .. do you mean go to /dev and then look at the properties of each one??
[01:39] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27884/ - take a look at that, comes in a popup box when i load kdetv
[01:39] <brendon> dude, I'm trying to help
[01:39] <Ray---> brendon: I'm using the kubuntu now
[01:40] <Ray---> so what to do to fix the dns resolver?
[01:40] <brendon> Easy, wasn't it... after you stopped taking my post literally :)
[01:40] <darksoul_> how do i unmount ntfs disks?
[01:40] <Arwen> darksoul_, same as any other. umount device
[01:41] <brendon> cwo4mann: lsusb shows the device.
[01:41] <brendon> cwo4mann: for me it is on bus 004 Device 004
[01:41] <brendon> cwo4mann: so I go to /dev/bus/usb/004
[01:41] <darksoul_> hmmm
[01:41] <draik> klobster: I'm trying realvnc and that doesn't seem to work for me
[01:42] <brendon> cwo4mann: and in that, is the 004 device.  Which shoulod be it
[01:42] <draik> BRB
[01:42] <brendon> Ray---: What are you trying to do with resolve?
[01:42] <darksoul_> !ntfs
[01:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:42] <Ray---> brendon: I told you the dns is not resolving
[01:42] <brendon> Still?  I though it was fixed
[01:43] <Ray---> If I connect to IP then it works but on hostname it does not
[01:43] <brendon> Since you are still in Kubuntu, this should be easy!
[01:43] <nathan> argh so fustrating that i only got 1 piece of hardware to work so far... that took 3 hours to figure
[01:43] <cwo4mann> i'm looking at the devices properties and found the answer ... thanks!  Or should I say "Domo Arigato"; or how about Kam-si-Hamnida" (Korean) or maybe Cup-kun-mak, Cop (Thai) ..or Spaciba (Russian), or Gracias (Spanish) or Merci! (French), or .... well, you get my point Arwen dear .. this is an International group, Ubuntu is a World-Users Linux and yes, I know there are other language channels.  And now I am saying goodby
[01:43] <cwo4mann> "Areviderchi" (Italian).  CIao!
[01:43] <darksoul_> Arwen i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:43] <Arwen> ....freak
[01:43] <darksoul_> to mount
[01:43] <darksoul_> now i reformated my windows disk and
[01:44] <Arwen> darksoul_, you just asked me how to unmount a device... I told you... is there a real question that you want to ask?
[01:44] <darksoul_> i cannot log windows from boot list...
[01:44] <brendon> Ray---: What is in your resolve.conf?
[01:44] <darksoul_> dahh nvm i found it
[01:44] <Ray---> brendon: where is this resolve.conf ?
[01:45] <draik> !ssh
[01:45] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:45] <hitmanWilly> ok, ive decided to sit down and really learn how to code C/C++. Any one know of a good resource for that?
[01:46] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: This you?  its in /etc
[01:46] <nathan> anyone know what the default television standard is in the UK?
[01:46] <brendon> PAL
[01:46] <Arwen> PAL iirc
[01:46] <hitmanWilly> nathan: probably PAL
[01:46] <david__> hols
[01:46] <nathan> ty
[01:47] <Arwen> only US and Japan use NTSC
[01:47] <david__> alguien abla spanish
[01:47] <brendon> US and Japan NTSC are not identical
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> !es | Clash
[01:47] <ubotu> Clash: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:47] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: there is no resolve.conf there is a directory called resolvconf
[01:47] <Clash> thenks
[01:47] <abattoir_> hitmanWilly: kinda off-topic for this channel, but http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ should get you started :)
[01:48] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: you should have one!  That would be the problem.
[01:48] <draik> I'm not sure what I am looking for, but I want to connect from my Feisty to my fiance's winxp with a GUI. Any hints?
[01:48] <hitmanWilly> abattoir: thanks, and yes I realize that was grossly off-topic :)
[01:48] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: And double check it is called resolv.conf
[01:49] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: do you know vi?
[01:49] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: I got resolvconf/update-libc.d/avahi-daemon
[01:49] <Ray-Kubuntu> vi? whats that ?
[01:49] <abattoir> hitmanWilly: nothing big, way more off-topic stuff is discussed sometimes :)
[01:49] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: vi is a text editor
[01:49] <Ray-Kubuntu> I know pico and nano
[01:49] <abattoir> hitmanWilly: googling should also help you out
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> abattoir: i know, im in here doing pro-bono tech support all the time :P
[01:50] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: in a console, type "man resolv.conf" and it'll tell you all about it
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> abattoir: im fairly fluent in bash and a little in python, figured I might as well go all the way :)
[01:51] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: okey but I'm sure I dont have the resolve.conf, why? I just installed the kubuntu no one rm anything
[01:52] <brendon> Don't worry, we can fix it in a moment.
[01:52] <brendon> sudo touch resolv.conf
[01:52] <abattoir> hitmanWilly: good luck :)
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> abattoir: thanx
[01:52] <brendon> and you will have one!
[01:53] <brendon> then use the editor of your choice to stick in a nameserver x.x.x.x line
[01:53] <brendon> check the file is owned by root with rw-r--r-- permissions
[01:53] <brendon> Ok?
[01:55] <draik> !remote access
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote access - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: I did sudo touch resolve.conf and I typed the password but nothing happend
[01:55] <draik> !remote entry
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote entry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <Ray-Kubuntu> I mean I still dont have the resolve.conf
[01:55] <Ray-Kubuntu> there is host.conf
[01:55] <nathan> omg woo
[01:55] <nathan> a little ibt of success
[01:55] <hitmanWilly> draik: welcome back :)
[01:55] <nathan> i have Sky on my PC... except it has no sound and a nasty pink line at the bottom of the screen
[01:55] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: what directory were you in when you did the touch?
[01:55] <draik> hitmanWilly: Hey there :)
[01:55] <nathan> but its found sky :D
[01:55] <Ray-Kubuntu> in the etc
[01:56] <draik> hitmanWilly: Still no luck with trying to access fiance's computer
[01:56] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: and you want resolv.conf NOT resolve.conf
[01:56] <brendon> What I would do is: in /etc/ type 'vi resolv.conf'
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> brendon: nano might be easier for him
[01:57] <brendon> Ok
[01:57] <brendon> use nano
[01:57] <Ray-Kubuntu> I did pico
[01:57] <Ray-Kubuntu> its, can you paste an example to edit?
[01:58] <brendon> Ok, do you have the file with the nameserver line?
[01:58] <Ray-Kubuntu> the file is empty
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> resolv.conf...DNS issues?
[01:58] <Ray-Kubuntu> hitmanWilly: yeah :/
[01:58] <brendon> example: nameserver 111.111.111.111
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> Ray-Kubuntu: try this: sudo echo nameserver 24.159.64.20 >> /etc/resolv.conf
[01:59] <brendon> with your name server instead of 111
[01:59] <stdin> hitmanWilly: that won't work
[01:59] <brendon> hitmanWilly: there are many ways to skin this cat
[01:59] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: okey
[02:00] <Minataku> brendon: Aieeee
[02:00] <Minataku> Don't use that saying
[02:00] <Minataku> XD
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> stdin: why not? kubuntu specific stuff?
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> stdin: or am i missing something stupid here...
[02:00] <stdin> hitmanWilly: no, it's just that bash does the redirect, and bash is running with the users uid
[02:00] <brendon> hitmanWilly: at a guess echo will run chroot and the concat wont
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> oh, yeah, use su over here :(
[02:01] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: do you have a good resolv.conf now?
[02:01] <stdin> hitmanWilly: echo <something> | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf
[02:01] <Ray-Kubuntu> it seems it workes :D
[02:01] <Ray-Kubuntu> let me try again :)
[02:01] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: and you can add your secondary nameserver also
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> stdin: long way around...
[02:01] <brendon> vi, the quick way
[02:01] <stdin> hitmanWilly: yeah, but it works :)
[02:02] <hitmanWilly> stdin: sorry, don't even have myself in the sudoers group anymore
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> stdin: always seemed like a gaping security hole to me
[02:03] <brendon> Minataku: sorry
[02:03] <stdin> hitmanWilly: hmm, lets not start the whole "sudo vs. su/root" thing, it's far to late here :p
[02:03] <brendon> hitmanWilly: sudoers should lock users down to SAFE commands.  not anything like hte default
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> stdin: wasn't trying to start a flamewar, apologies :)
[02:04] <Arwen> brendon, uh.... there needs to be a user that can do *all* commands or your box is fundamentally b0rk3d
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> Arwen: that's what a REAL root acct is for
[02:04] <stdin> hitmanWilly: I could "feel" one developing, and it's just a headache when they start
[02:04] <Arwen> ...
[02:04] <brendon> Arwen: agreed, it should be a special user
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> sorry
[02:04] <raphael_> you know about www.linuxget.com.br ?
[02:05] <Minataku> sudo, even set to full, cannot do EVERYTHING
[02:05] <brendon> Arwen: otherwise anybody who compromises my user, ownes the box
[02:05] <Arwen> brendon, anyone that compromises your box with a root user already owns your box...
[02:05] <stdin> hitmanWilly: not your fault, my philosophise is "your box, your rules"
[02:05] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: thank you so much
[02:05] <prestwick> hah!
[02:05] <Ray-Kubuntu> you made my day
[02:05] <Minataku> sudo cannot set kernel runtime parameters, for example
[02:06] <Minataku> Actual root access is required for that
[02:06] <Arwen> ...
[02:06] <brendon> Arwen: I don't understand what you said.  if you compromixe user X, you DO not have root access
[02:06] <Arwen> Minataku, that's why there's sudo -i/su
[02:06] <Minataku> Arwen: Right, I'm just stating an observation
[02:06] <Arwen> brendon, having a root user to compromise isn't any more vulnerable than having X sudoer to compromise
[02:06] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: you're welcome
[02:06] <Arwen> or any less for that matter
[02:06] <Minataku> That there are fundamental flaws to sudo
[02:06] <Arwen> but let's drop it
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> stdin: im not even going to talk about my first couple months using nix, I didn't even use a normal user acct...didn't know any better at the time
[02:07] <brendon> Arwen: that is why X user can only sudoer a limited set of commands
[02:07] <Minataku> I always did >.>
[02:07] <Minataku> But then I was told before starting
[02:07] <brendon> Arwen: not including su, shells, etc
[02:07] <Arwen> brendon, ....
[02:07] <stdin> hitmanWilly: it's the windows way, where you need admin to do /anything/
[02:07] <Minataku> stdin: Indeed
[02:08] <Minataku> There's no possible way to make a proper sub-admin user on a Windows machine
[02:08] <Minataku> Something will ALWAYS be broken
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> the headfirst approach :)
[02:08] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Head first into brick wall, more accurately
[02:08] <Minataku> XD
[02:08] <brendon> Arwen: which is why services run in chroot under thier own users, etc
[02:08] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: other newbie question is there any other messenger I can install (I dont like this kopete)
[02:09] <stdin> !IM
[02:09] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:09] <brendon> Oh, I liked it!  There must be dozens
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> got a debian install up and running, after much swearing and head-banging (back in 99)
[02:11] <hitmanWilly> zero idea what i was doing at the time...but figured it out eventually
[02:12] <stdin> that's the best way to learn
[02:13] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:13] <Minataku> I was thinking of doing something like that
[02:13] <hitmanWilly> libraries seem to be the best
[02:13] <brendon> Arwen: I missed you "drop it".  I was actaully interested in what you were saying...
[02:13] <Ray-Kubuntu> brendon: do you recomand any?:)
[02:13] <tntcoda> Hi, anyone know how to stop ubuntus automounting service placing icons on the desktop to mounted volumes?
[02:14] <Ray-Kubuntu> amsn workes in here too ?
[02:14] <brendon> Ray-Kubuntu: too much of a personal thing.  I'm using kopete, but you don't like it!
[02:15] <Ray-Kubuntu> okey thanks anyway
[02:18] <Minataku> Aw, nuts
[02:18] <Minataku> QEMU segfaulted
[02:21] <level1> whats a good program for web design?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> nvu
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: KVM still won't work here
[02:23] <Minataku> ?
[02:25] <Minataku> !info kvm
[02:25] <ubotu> kvm: Full virtualization on x86 hardware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 474 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[02:25] <Minataku> Oh, what is this now
[02:30] <Minataku> Ah
[02:30] <Minataku> It works in VMWare
[02:31] <stdin> woo
[02:32] <stdin> opps, paste errors
[02:34] <Mr_Sonoma> how likely is it that during a power supply failure that something got corrupted in my system.....causing apt-get faults??
[02:34] <osiris> ok, back to my earlier question
[02:34] <osiris> does ANYONE know of a barcode generator app
[02:35] <stdin> !info kbarcode | osiris
[02:35] <ubotu> osiris: kbarcode: barcode and label printing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.5-1 (feisty), package size 511 kB, installed size 2056 kB
[02:38] <Minataku> Mr_Sonoma: Somewhat likely
[02:40] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: Notvery likely
[02:41] <Minataku> brendon: The likelihood is higher than that
[02:41] <Minataku> Especially if he was doing something at the time of the power failure
[02:41] <Minataku> fsck can fix only so much
[02:41] <stdin> depends on the error apt-get spits out then
[02:42] <brendon> Only if apt-get was changing the db at exactly that moment
[02:43] <Minataku> Well, somewhat is just one step up from not very XD
[02:43] <Minataku> It's still pretty low
[02:44] <Minataku> But circumstances like a power failure do have the potential to cause weirdo problems
[02:44] <brendon> Agreed.  If he gave us the error, we may be able to help instead of comparing superlatives
[02:44] <stdin> not that it's not fun to compair superlatives
[02:45] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:45] <Minataku> I don't think he cares that much
[02:45] <Minataku> He asked 11 minutes ago :P
[02:45] <brendon> But I've work to avoid doing!
[02:46] <Minataku> Haha
[02:46] <Minataku> I'm doing that by playing with Novell NetWare 6
[02:47] <stdin> it's times like then when I find myself thinking "maybe I should learn c++"
[02:47] <draik> klobster: What am I doing wrong when using realvnc?
[02:47] <draik> hitmanWilly: Have you ever tried to access a winxp box from K/Ubuntu?
[02:48] <darkrift411> how do i check what is using all my ram (not virtual mem)
[02:48] <darkrift411> i have 3mb left out of 1g
[02:48] <darkrift411> and it gets that way right after a reboto
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: doesn't top show it?
[02:49] <hitmanWilly> draik: not for a long time, and then only a samba share
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: its caching.
[02:49] <draik> darkrift411: There's an app called PS3. Does that for you, graphically. Sorry, don't recall the link.
[02:50] <draik> hitmanWilly: Thanks. I'm at a loss at accessing my fiance's computer
[02:50] <stdin> darkrift411: run "free -om" to see how much is used as chche
[02:50] <darkrift411> i have mirc, ktorrent and nor xchat running, but my memory is always maxed out
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> draik: its not the kubuntu side that's the problem i guarantee :)
[02:50] <draik> hitmanWilly: Never crossed my mind
[02:50] <darkrift411> cached 334mb
[02:50] <darkrift411> 15mb free :(
[02:51] <darkrift411> things just seem to lag
[02:51] <darkrift411> also, i notice when i close lots of apps, they dont get unloaded from memory
[02:51] <darkrift411> ctrl+esc still shows them
[02:51] <hitmanWilly> darkrift411: don't count cached mem as used, it gets freed up as needed
[02:51] <underdog5004> darkrift411,  how much ram do you have?
[02:51] <darkrift411> sometimes ill have 10 media players, or 15 konquerors open (with none visible cause i closed them)
[02:51] <darkrift411> 1g
[02:52] <underdog5004> whoa...and you're getting lag?
[02:52] <darkrift411> lol
[02:52] <darkrift411> yes
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: is it possible to kill these procresses?
[02:52] <stdin> darkrift411: you can try "ps aux|sort -rk 4,4|head" to see the top 10 memory hogs
[02:52] <darkrift411> yes
[02:52] <darkrift411> i kill them and they are gone
[02:52] <darkrift411> till i run them again and close em
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: interesting...
[02:53] <darkrift411> wow
[02:53] <darkrift411> is it bad that kopete is the 2nd form the top?
[02:53] <darkrift411> from*
[02:53] <darkrift411> i wouldnt think an im program would use that much
[02:53] <underdog5004>  weird...I've got a gig, with a VM open, xmms, xchat, firefox with one tab open, and two rxvt (terminal emulators), and my mem looks like this: Used: 966 Cache: 645 Free: 333
[02:53] <stdin> depends on how much mem it's actally using
[02:54] <hitmanWilly> memory leak?
[02:54] <stdin> FF leaks mem so bad when it's left open
[02:54] <darkrift411> right now, i have xchat, ktorrent, terminal, mirc and kate open
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> 1 gig with tons of apps running with beryl and XGL only using 400MB
[02:54] <vzduch> darkrift411: mIRC? o0
[02:54] <darkrift411> runnign beryl and superkaramba
[02:54] <darkrift411> thats about it
[02:54] <darkrift411> yes
[02:54] <underdog5004> oh yeah, beryl here too, and super karamba
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: superkaramba...
[02:54] <darkrift411> cant live without my mirc
[02:54] <vzduch> darkrift411: what for?
[02:55] <darkrift411> too many scripts ive written
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: try killing that
[02:55] <darkrift411> and dont know other langs yet
[02:55] <darkrift411> mirc averages 12% mem used
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: although that doesn't solve your zombie process thing
[02:55] <darkrift411> spikes at 15%
[02:55] <darkrift411> so thats not too bad
[02:55] <darkrift411> something else has to be using more
[02:56] <stdin> FF was using 100MB of ram from 2 hour usage, ugh
[02:56] <stdin> not even flash or java either
[02:56] <roho> FF the encoder?
[02:56] <darkrift411> lol
[02:56] <darkrift411> my ff uses 250mb(ish) after 2 minutes
[02:56] <stdin> no FF = FireFox
[02:56] <darkrift411> but i close it when im done
[02:56] <roho> Firefox = fx, holmes
[02:56] <roho> yeah, represent
[02:57] <stdin> I was just viewing plain HTML pages tho, no JS/Java/Flash
[02:57] <vzduch> I try not to use Firefox, if possible.. haven't got it installed atm
[02:58] <draik> Speaking of RAM... I have 4GB but for some reason, it only registers 3GB.
[02:58] <darkrift411> thats the only browser i like on linux
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> 5% here
[02:58] <draik> Bad bank or RAM?
[02:58] <stdin> draik: that's because a 32bit kernel can't use 4
[02:58] <stdin> draik: that's why the jump to 64bit was made
[02:59] <brendon> I think people get confused about memory usage...
[02:59] <draik> stdin: :( And I built my computer 3 years ago with the motherboard specs of "max 4gb ram"
[02:59] <brendon> what with cache, shared memory, etc, etc.
[03:00] <stdin> draik: there is a difference between what the hardware can handle and what the software can use
[03:00] <hitmanWilly> draik: windows won't address it either, its a 32 processor issue
[03:00] <draik> stdin: That there is. Sorry for the ignorance.
[03:01] <stdin> draik: it's ok, not many people realise that 32bit limits ram at <4GB
[03:02] <underdog5004> lol, I don't think my mobo even supports 4Gb
[03:02] <underdog5004> of RAM, that is
[03:02] <draik> stdin: Well, as long as I don't have a bad mobo, bank or stick of RAM
[03:03] <vzduch> in the light of what was just said.. I ask myself: would it be a good idea to run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit processor? (at least as long as not all functionality commonly expected from a computer system is implemented in 64-bit OSes)
[03:03] <stdin> vzduch: yeah, a lot of people do it
[03:04] <brendon> Not sure why?
[03:05] <vzduch> brendon: not sure why what?
[03:05] <stdin> well, some apps aren't ported to 64bit yet, and some things (like flash/java) don't work in 64bit
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> vzduch: as long as you don't have 4 gigs of ram... yeah, its fine
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> stdin: or are very hard to get working.
[03:05] <stdin> yeah
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> I did it, but lol.. it was hard
[03:06] <vzduch> so it's not entirely a CPU issue.. it's a general 32-bit issue
[03:06] <brendon> Why you'd use a 32bit OS on a 64bit machine
[03:06] <brendon> But you can run 32bit apps under a 64bit OS
[03:06] <stdin> you only really need 64bit of you have 4+GB ram and/or need high precision math running (super computing)
[03:06] <brendon> So flash, java, etc are manageable
[03:06] <stdin> brendon: only with the 32bit libs installed
[03:07] <darkrift411> you can?
[03:07] <stdin> and it's not exactly easy
[03:07] <darkrift411> i was told 32bit apps wont work on 64b
[03:07] <brendon> So, you install both 64bit and 32bit libs.  Thats what I do
[03:07] <darkrift411> ppl in here told me to use 32b os
[03:07] <brendon> darkrift411: that is true for WINDOWS
[03:07] <vzduch> I'll go to bed.. good night :)
[03:07] <darkrift411> heh
[03:07] <darkrift411> i asked in here
[03:08] <stdin> darkrift411: linux has some workarounds, but for other 64bit OSs you can't
[03:08] <brendon> Linux doesn't have that kind of restriction built in
[03:08] <darkrift411> if there was a reason not to isntall 64b os
[03:08] <darkrift411> someone told me most apps wouldnt work without compiling
[03:08] <stdin>  /some/ apps won't
[03:08] <brendon> Well, more apps are available as a binary in 32bit land
[03:08] <stdin> most come in the package repositories
[03:09] <brendon> so if you want 64bit, then you need to compile
[03:09] <jzilla> 64bit, in my experince is a headache.
[03:09] <darkrift411> and what kind of benefit do i get from 64b os?
[03:09] <darkrift411> is it worth it?
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> darkrift411: speed
[03:10] <brendon> Much more speed, with the right hardware
[03:10] <darkrift411> i can compile, but basics only
[03:10] <stdin> darkrift411: a small speed increase (about 20%)
[03:10] <darkrift411> i have a brand new laptop with a turion 64 in it
[03:10] <darkrift411> if someone could help me get my drive issue fixed, id dual boot and try 64 out
[03:11] <brendon> All "our" non laptops are twin CPU opteron machines.
[03:11] <darkrift411> i have a windows drive that i need to resize
[03:11] <darkrift411> but gparted cant do it
[03:11] <darkrift411> its locked
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: i'm doing it with gutsy
[03:11] <stdin> darkrift411: that's another thing about 64bit, if it's not an open-source driver, forget it
[03:11] <darkrift411> gparted cant find the mount point to unmount the partition
[03:12] <brendon> stdin: isn't that a problem with linux anyway
[03:12] <darkrift411> i have the nvidia 6150 mobile, think id have drive issues?
[03:12] <darkrift411> driver*
[03:12] <hitmanWilly> stdin: the 64 bit nvidia ones seemed to work pretty well
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: 64 bit is a headache on gentoo?
[03:12] <stdin> brendon: somewhat, but you can get more 32bit drivers than 64bit
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: thought it was easier there?
[03:12] <darkrift411> ok, so who wants to troubleshoot my partition resizing issue with me so i can try 64b :)
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: reinstalling :) that's the headache
[03:13] <stdin> brendon: things like wireless drivers are a headache
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> oh..lol
[03:13] <darkrift411> oh sh*t
[03:13] <darkrift411> forgot about my wifi drivers :s
[03:13] <darkrift411> that might be a pain
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: chipset?
[03:13] <darkrift411> broadcomm 4300 or 3400 (the hated one)
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: yech
[03:14] <darkrift411> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[03:14] <brendon> stdin: I ain't carrying around no twin opteron boxes while they are running!
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> brendon: make it burn your calories for fuel!
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> exercise!
[03:14] <brendon> with a long pawer cable!
[03:15] <brendon> s/pawer/power/
[03:15] <stdin> or a big battery
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> brendon: ok, how much juice do those opterons take up? thinking of putting one in my desktop for kicks :)
[03:15] <darkrift411> anyone?
[03:15] <brendon> if you get the right model... 35watts for the CPU
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> brendon: wow... thats not bad
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> not too bad...
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> if you get the wrong model....120W
[03:16] <brendon> No, that is why AMD is kicking XEON butt
[03:16] <stdin> darkrift411: broadcom are difficult anyway, don't know if it runs well under 64bit
[03:16] <Mr_Sonoma> im sorry fellas had to step out
[03:16] <brendon> Still, 120W is not too bad, compared to a XEON
[03:17] <Evolution2> i just reinstalled windows and my grub was lost. so i tried recovering as but it wouldnt show up when i rebooted. i have kubuntu 7.04 please help i even tried the help page in the forums
[03:17] <stdin> darkrift411: it may depend on the exact model/chipset too (not that I would know)
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> stdin: does ndiswrapper even work at all under 64?
[03:17] <darkrift411> ok, so who wants to troubleshoot my partition resizing issue with me so i can try 64b :)
[03:17] <stdin> hitmanWilly: don't know, never tried
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> neither have I
[03:17] <brendon> If you get dual opterons, make sure that each CPU has it's own memory slots.
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: still have a liveCD around?
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> brendon: nah, my mobo is a single slot 939
[03:18] <level1> whats a good web design program?
[03:18] <level1> WYSIWYG
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> level1: nvu maybe
[03:18] <brendon> level1: uggggg
[03:18] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: yes i do
[03:19] <brendon> hitmanWilly: thats only a single CPU, yes?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: pop it in and boot it up... you in windows now?
[03:19] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: i tried that grub recover page and i got an error
[03:19] <hitmanWilly> brendon: yup
[03:19] <level1> brendon: is that really the name or are you joking?
[03:19] <weerdo> every connection give back this: time out bla bla 1.0.0.0
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: oh.. what was it?
[03:19] <weerdo> why?
[03:19] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: no iam in an ubuntu live cd right now
[03:19] <cooter> ?
[03:19] <weerdo> on ubuntu 6.10
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: ah ok, do you have your ubuntu partition mounted?
[03:20] <brendon> level1: I was trying to groan.  I have not founbd anything on any OS that works well
[03:20] <brendon> hitmanWilly: Then each CPU does have its own memory!! LOL!!!
[03:20] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: yeah i should
[03:20] <oslo> hi is there a sort of plugin for konqueror to add it a file transfert manager; i mean if i upload 1.iso to /test/ then 2.iso to /test/; i'd like it put 2.iso at queue ... Do you know something like that for konqueror ?
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> brendon: i guess on a technicality :P
[03:20] <prestwick> I wish ATI would release a version of fglrx that actually works with the latest version of xorg.
[03:21] <prestwick> Oslo, you mean an FTP plugin for konqueror.
[03:21] <oslo> prestwick> i don't
[03:21] <stdin> level1: amaya is a wysiwyg web designer, never used it tho
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=<where the drive is mounted> /dev/hda"
[03:21] <Ray`> what Stalled means?
[03:21] <brendon> The point was that each opteron has its own memory controller, so you get the best performance when they don't have to share
[03:22] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: i dont have hda
[03:22] <Evolution2> i have sda
[03:22] <Evolution2> sda6 i think
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> ok... sorry, change that
[03:22] <Mr_Sonoma> brendon when you have a min i can post a error for you.
[03:22] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: sure.
[03:22] <oslo> prestwick> i mean if i paste a file to a location then an other file to the same location i'd like it put the second one at queue... but yes it's for an ftp link
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: is sda6 mounted?
[03:23] <Evolution2> yes
[03:23] <prestwick> No idea Oslo, sorry.
[03:23] <Evolution2> i did that already
[03:23] <oslo> do u speak 2 me ?
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma>  sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Password:
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Reading package lists... Done
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Building dependency tree
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Reading state information... Done
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Need to get 0B of archives.
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Setting up havp (0.82-1ubuntu1) ...
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> Starting havp: Starting HAVP Version: 0.82
[03:24] <underdog5004> !paste | Mr_Sonoma
[03:24] <ubotu> Mr_Sonoma: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> Could not open lock testfile /var/run/havp/havp-tev5gS: No such file or directory
[03:24] <oslo> PASTEBIN
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> Maybe you need to: chown havp /var/run/havp
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> Exiting..
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> invoke-rc.d: initscript havp, action "start" failed.
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> dpkg: error processing havp (--configure):
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma>  havp
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: where is it mounted to?
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> 
[03:24] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: that i dont know
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: you didn't manually mount it?
[03:24] <Evolution2> nosrednaekim: no
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: then it isn't mounted
[03:25] <underdog5004> Mr_Sonoma, ummm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:25] <underdog5004> that may help
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2:  run "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt"
[03:25] <Mr_Sonoma> ok i ran the autoremove just to get it up.....i started having a problem when running adept updater and apt-get then a day or 2 later lost the powersupply figured it was connected.
[03:26] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: As you can guess, you have a partially installed app.
[03:26] <Mr_Sonoma> uh hu and been unable to remove it LOL
[03:27] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: There is something in the ubuntu wiki on how to clean up
[03:27] <Mr_Sonoma> ok no output from that command
[03:27] <underdog5004> Mr_Sonoma, apt-get remove --purge app-name
[03:27] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: I don't remember the magic, but it is pretty easy.
[03:29] <brendon> gotta run...
[03:29] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks man
[03:31] <level1> I'm using k3b to rip a dvd and it stalls forever on the first step, resizing image to 640xsomething... I have libdvdcss2 installed
[03:32] <level1> what are the other dvd rip utilities?  dvd::rip just doesn't work for me
[03:34] <stdin> level1: k9copy?
[03:36] <level1> stdin: where is the "I want to copy this dvd button" on k9copy?
[03:37] <stdin> level1: under the Actions menu
[03:38] <zander> i am running "Step 2: Debmiror (optional)" from Builder/ "HowToCreateYourOwnGNULinuxDistribution" for about 24 hours now showing %12 done... so it usually takes that long then?...
[03:42] <brendon_> Mr_Sonoma: Did you solve the problem while I moved homes?
[03:42] <intelikey> hmmm anyone know anything about /etc/passwd and the accounts on the system ?      do any non-user accounts need a shell ?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: I don't think so
[03:43] <brendon_> intelikey: non-user accounts should not have a shell
[03:43] <brendon_> a shell is a security risk
[03:43] <intelikey> brendon_ then by default ubuntu has a load of security risks
[03:44] <brendon_> yes!
[03:44] <level1> zander: are you doing a LFS?
[03:44] <intelikey> all but two have shells
[03:44] <level1> whats so dangeruos about that?
[03:44] <zander> you mean a "something File System"?
[03:44] <zander> level1
[03:45] <brendon_> well, without a shell, you can't login as that user.
[03:45] <level1> zander: linux from scratch
[03:45] <level1> I do that if I had a lot of time on my hands... but even I'm not that bored
[03:45] <brendon_> if everything else is set up right, you shouldn't be able to.  But its one more precaution
[03:45] <zander> oh... why yes then i am..
[03:45] <brendon_> and stops su to the user, etc
[03:46] <level1> zander: actually, LFS refers to distributions based on the instructions of a particular book by that name... are you following that book?
[03:47] <brendon_> intelikey: BTW, if you blindly change them all to /bin/false you may break somehting that DOES need the shell
[03:47] <level1> actually, its not really a "distribution" is it?
[03:47] <zander> level1: no i am not.  i was not aware of that book. i will look into it. i am just following the instructions on the gNewSense.org web-site.
[03:47] <intelikey> brendon_ but if all is setup correctly then that shouldn't be an issue cause only root can su without a password to any account,   and i agree that rather than /bin/[ba,*] sh  /bin/[true,false]  would be better on most of them.   just wondered if any actually needed a shell
[03:47] <Minataku> Ugh
[03:48] <Minataku> Anything with a G before it sounds bad to me
[03:48] <Minataku> Because it's usually GNOME related
[03:48] <level1> Minataku: do gnome apps really use G everywhere?
[03:48] <zander> level1: LFS sounds like a title i need in my library...
[03:48] <Minataku> level1: A lot do
[03:48] <brendon_> intelikey: The issue is more important on a server.  You don't want a DNS server (or whatever) compromised and giving the "guest" a shell
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. like K apps use k everywhere
[03:49] <level1> it would be funny if someone came out Knome...
[03:49] <intelikey> brendon_ heh and if i don't "blindly set them all"  how will i know   :)
[03:49] <Mr_Sonoma> brendon_: no i havent
[03:49] <level1> do people really pronounce the name "Guh-Nome"?
[03:50] <level1> I thought the "G" was silent
[03:50] <intelikey> some even say  guh-no-me
[03:50] <zibrah3ed> are they developementally challegened?
[03:51] <underdog5004> rofl
[03:51] <brendon_> intelikey: As long as you know what you are doing.  blindly do it.  If you are a nooob, don't
[03:51] <intelikey> no just idioscynconusly challanged underdog5004
[03:52] <underdog5004> uh...
[03:52] <Minataku> I just call it "crap"
[03:52] <underdog5004> intelikey, I think you meant to say that to zibrah3ed
[03:52] <brendon_> Mr_Sonoma: what have you tried?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> oh... wow... so sicinct
[03:52] <zander> i built GCC native on my fujitsu after i installed gNewSense.  would i gain anything by reinstalling gnewsense or does the gnewsense distro. actual compile a kernal on install after polling the hardware... i may be oldschool but i thought that is how gnu linux installs... anyway gnu.org recognizes gnewsense as "pure gnu".
[03:52] <intelikey> well i'm  a bit of a newbee   but i'll go ahead and set every account but the normal user and root to /bin/true
[03:52] <Minataku> Ah
[03:52] <Minataku> But no
[03:53] <Minataku> YOU configure the kernel
[03:53] <brendon_> intelikey: make a backup of the file, so you know how to kix what you break! LOL
[03:53] <Minataku> It's only automatic in distros... well in none of them
[03:55] <level1> Is there a practical reason why you would install gnewsense or is it just to show support for open source?
[03:55] <zander> will i gain any performance by reinstalling gnewsense after a native GCC compiler build and install?
[03:55] <Mr_Sonoma> brendon: i tried the dpkg thing that underdog5004 suggested earlier
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> no practical reason, only the warm fuzzy of only open source
[03:56] <Mr_Sonoma> and a few searches on the wiki, with little luck, although not sure exactly what i should look for "partially installed programs" didnt return anything in the search on the wiki
[03:56] <zander> level1: well i am a gnu enthusiast i have a b.s. in computer science from the howard r. hughes colledge of engineering at unlv.
[03:56] <zibrah3ed> great
[03:57] <level1> zander: I'm not critizising, I just want to know
[03:57] <level1> I'd do such a thing but my laptop has bad hardware support... If I need proprietary drivers, I'll get them
[03:57] <zander> level1: okay...
[03:58] <darkrift411> question
[03:58] <darkrift411> i have a sd card (in the built in reader)
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[03:58] <level1> really, in the case of drivers, I don't have a problem with closed source, its just the closed source drivers are so bad... with all other software I like open source, esp KDE
[03:58] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: Have you tried apt-get with -f ?
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> Nvidia' are actually decent
[03:59] <level1> darkrift411: usually drives work pretty smoothly... are you having a problem?
[03:59] <zander> level1: yes... i want to develop clusters using circa 1999 apple ibooks running powerpc...
[03:59] <level1> darkrift411: unless your using NTFS, then its trouble
[03:59] <zibrah3ed> lol nvidia drivers decent
[03:59] <darkrift411> and im trying to copy some mp3's from my windows disk (/media/sda1/mp3)
[03:59] <level1> zander: whats that supposed to mean?
[03:59] <darkrift411> it copies a few, tehn it errors out
[03:59] <zibrah3ed> Keep telling yourself that and you may believe it
[03:59] <darkrift411> cant copy
[04:00] <Mr_Sonoma> i had not even thought of that...i'll try it
[04:00] <darkrift411> it did the same thing when i tried to copy a 350mb file over... it got like 30% and then said cant write to /media/disk
[04:00] <zander> i have a dedicated sd slot on my fujitsu i have not tested it yet since my gnusense install i will check to see if it work okay...
[04:00] <level1> zibrah3ed: I'm sure they're a lot better than fglrx... yeah, put that in your pipe and smoke it
[04:00] <darkrift411> it does that going from ntfs or from my linux partition
[04:00] <darkrift411> so the source doesnt seem to matter
[04:00] <Mr_Sonoma> nawww still the same
[04:00] <zander> level1: i was just telling what i am trying to do here around my place...
[04:01] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: http://www.linux.com/articles/48910 came from google "apt-get broken packages"
[04:02] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: That gives many possible solutions.
[04:03] <zander> i just plugged in a 2Gig sd card into my m/c's sd reader writer... i don't think anything happened...
[04:03] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks man im reading through it now...(if only the kids would leave me alone long enough to get this resolved.)
[04:03] <level1> ack... something is using all my /tmp and I'm out of space on my root partition!
[04:04] <intelikey> hmmm i have a gui now  and four apps for it    i feel so gui'y
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> level1: doing any streaming?
[04:04] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: how old are the monsters?
[04:04] <stdin> level1: "du /tmp |sort -rnk 1,1|head" see what's taking all the space pu
[04:04] <Mr_Sonoma> 5 and 2
[04:04] <stdin> *up
[04:04] <Mr_Sonoma> brothers
[04:05] <darkrift411> does linux have a filename lenght limit?
[04:05] <smiwool> hola quetal buenas noches
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: yeah
[04:05] <Mr_Sonoma> uh not that i have hit yet *grin*
[04:05] <smiwool>  algun mexicano que me ayude
[04:05] <level1> nosrednaekim: dvd ripping... its using /tmp for some stuff I guess
[04:05] <stdin> darkrift411: linux doesn't, but the FS does
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> its like 23000 characters
[04:05] <brendon> I've got a 3 and 6 monsters
[04:05] <level1> whats the limit in ext3?
[04:06] <zander> i don't think my 2gig sd mounted... i likely need to edit /etc/config and stuff...
[04:06] <stdin> level1: 255 bytes (so 255 characters)
[04:07] <level1> darkrift411: you can put anything into an ext3 filename (thats ubuntu default) except a foreword slash... you can even put a newline character in there... it shows up real weird in file browsers
[04:07] <level1> stdin: with unicode, its really more like 64 characters though, isn't it?
[04:08] <darkrift411> damnit
[04:08] <stdin> level1: utf-8 is 8bit not 8byte
[04:08] <SoulinEther> i just installed vanilla kde. what configuration program / command can i enter into the terminal will change the screen resolution? I ran a program via wine and it crashed.
[04:08] <darkrift411> why cant i copy this crap then
[04:08] <not-Timmay> hey does anyone use KATE for web page editing?
[04:08] <stdin> level1: 8bits to a byte
[04:08] <intelikey> which is which ?   is us time zones gmt plus or minus #   ???
[04:08] <stdin> intelikey: minus
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> not-Timmay: lolz
[04:08] <brendon> not-Timmay: I hope not!
[04:08] <not-Timmay> why not?
[04:08] <Mr_Sonoma> not far in age from mine then
[04:09] <level1> stdin: but 8 bits can only encode 256 distict characters... how do they get all that japanese in there?
[04:09] <brendon> no.
[04:09] <intelikey> stdin then why is 7am here with that setting and an internet sync ?
[04:09] <brendon> but mine can get real "helpful"
[04:09] <SoulinEther> US times zones are all -
[04:09] <SoulinEther> -4 is east coast, -7 is west coast
[04:09] <stdin> level1: who knows :P
[04:09] <Mr_Sonoma> LOL mine too
[04:09] <darkrift411> hrmmmm
[04:09] <darkrift411> was a group permission problem
[04:09] <darkrift411> odd thign was
[04:10] <stdin> intelikey: GMT is now 02:10
[04:10] <darkrift411> im the owner
[04:10] <darkrift411> but thegroup was root
[04:10] <Mr_Sonoma> they tried to help me move the MB and drives to the new case (since i was buying a new p/s anyways i wanted front usb on this one so i got a new case too *grin*)
[04:10] <darkrift411> and even with kdesu konqueror it wouldnt klet me write to it
[04:10] <Mr_Sonoma> the 2 year old took off with half my screws when i got the MB out of the old case
[04:11] <brendon> LOL
[04:11] <Mr_Sonoma> -5 is east timezone
[04:11] <SoulinEther> lol, then i'm probably off on my own time zone too lol
[04:11] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37803
[04:12] <intelikey> what am i missing ?
[04:12] <crxyem> ok, well, I've got a few different hard disk controllers, a promise sx4060, promise tx133, highpoint 100, and a highpoint 464, the sx4060 and the highpoint 464 are raid cards, but all I want is a nother disk controller so I can add 4-250gb drive and have access to tham any ideas ??
[04:12] <SoulinEther> you have to mount them with non-root permissions?
[04:12] <intelikey> Name: []  gmt+5
[04:12] <intelikey> Your default time zone is set to 'Etc/GMT+5'.
[04:12] <intelikey> Local time is now:      Fri Jun 29 21:12:33 GMT+5 2007.
[04:12] <intelikey> Universal Time is now:  Sat Jun 30 02:12:33 UTC 2007.
[04:13] <Schuenemann> not-Timmay, try aptana: www.aptana.com
[04:13] <intelikey> stdin ???
[04:13] <SoulinEther> seriously this is for kde users, and nobody knows how to change the resolution? :S
[04:13] <stdin> intelikey: it says "Etc/GMT-5" not "Etc/GMT+5"
[04:13] <intelikey> look at the pastebin and the flood  ^
[04:14] <crxyem> Soulin: display resulotion ???
[04:14] <SoulinEther> yes :P
[04:14] <stdin> intelikey: on the pastebin it has - on the flood it's +
[04:14] <SoulinEther> i have looked, and found no such utility. And i've tried several CLI command possibilities that I could make up.
[04:14] <intelikey> stdin correct the flood says gtm+5 and the time is correct   the pastebin says -5 and the time is wrong.
[04:14] <stdin> hmm
[04:14] <Mr_Sonoma> grrrr
[04:15] <intelikey> so what am i not seeing there  ???
[04:15] <crxyem> kmenu>systemsettings>monitor and display
[04:15] <crxyem> click admin mode make changes
[04:15] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: whats happening?
[04:15] <SoulinEther> crxyem, i don't have monitor and display; this is a more vanilla kde... i installed via apt-get install kde-core
[04:16] <SoulinEther> what is the name of the kde program that handles the display?
[04:16] <Mr_Sonoma> still the same
[04:16] <crxyem> ah
[04:16] <brendon> did you try all those commands?
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> SoulinEther: get "kubuntu-desktop"
[04:16] <Mr_Sonoma> getting agravated enough to whipe the system
[04:16] <Mr_Sonoma> yup
[04:16] <SoulinEther> nosrednaekim: no, lol, it's too bloated.
[04:16] <crxyem> exactly you missed a package
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> SoulinEther: ok then.
[04:17] <crxyem> so any ideas on pci disk controllers anyone ?
[04:17] <SoulinEther> nosrednaekim: but ... you just gave me an idea, thanks
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> what?
[04:17] <stdin> intelikey: ?? maybe a bug in whatever cmd you are using
[04:17] <SoulinEther> check what kubuntu desktop installs and install the one package i'll need
[04:17] <intelikey> stdin tzconfig
[04:17] <SoulinEther> kde-systemsettings
[04:18] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: what did apt-get -f remove do?
[04:18] <intelikey> stdin yeah i'm suspecting it is.
[04:18] <Mr_Sonoma> same as what i posted to you earlier
[04:19] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: and more importantly dpkg -r <package>
[04:19] <brendon> or --purge
[04:19] <darkrift411> wow
[04:20] <darkrift411> anyone able to tell me why a disk operation (copying 800mb worth of mp3's to an sd card) just brought my brand new laptop to its knees?
[04:20] <darkrift411> and it didnt even copy it all, just about 80mb of it
[04:20] <darkrift411> my mouse wouldnt even move the system was so locked up
[04:20] <brendon> Mr_Sonoma: I'm assuming you ran ALL these commands 'sudo'?  I hope.
[04:21] <Mr_Sonoma> not quite that much of a N00B
[04:21] <p51bob> i have a rpm package with a driver for my modem and want to know how to install the rpm
[04:21] <brendon> Just checking...
[04:21] <Mr_Sonoma> although feeling NooBish now
[04:21] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[04:21] <brendon> we all do from time to time
[04:22] <brendon> have you tried removing the file that is causing problems?
[04:22] <Mr_Sonoma> havp?
[04:22] <Mr_Sonoma> naww havnt gone after it with rm yet...(learned a lesson or two about rm under dapper)
[04:23] <brendon> Well, you could use mv so that you can go back.
[04:24] <banksey> Anyone recommend a good Music Player, Besides Marok?
[04:24] <stdin> mplayer
[04:25] <stdin> !media
[04:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:25] <brendon> if you want fun, use find with regex to find and delete stuff as root.
[04:25] <SoulinEther> banshee
[04:25] <Mr_Sonoma> kaffine is what i use most, Amarok is ok
[04:25] <banksey> I don't like the way Amarok manages files
[04:25] <stdin> Amarok in GUI, mplayer/sox in CLI
[04:26] <brendon> For me all the video players give me scrambled video?
[04:26] <banksey> You need codecs
[04:26] <stdin> if it's WMV, it may be DRM
[04:26] <Schuenemann> amarok takes too long to start
[04:26] <banksey> Not with 2 gigs of RAM :D
[04:26] <stdin> takes <1s to start
[04:26] <Schuenemann> I'm using xmms, even though it's discontinued
[04:26] <brendon> it is all video, and I think I have the codecs...
[04:27] <stdin> (not with 2GB ram here)
[04:27] <banksey> I jus don't like the layout and little things like that
[04:27] <Schuenemann> well, xmms loads in ~1/4 of the time
[04:28] <p51bob> need channel for hardware support
[04:29] <banksey> Hwo much space on the HD does Kubuntu actaully take up?
[04:31] <intelikey> well i guess i can get used to viewing gmt   heh
[04:31] <Schuenemann> ?
[04:31] <intelikey> Sat Jun 30 02:28:54 UTC 2007  at least the RTC is correct now.
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> banksey: around 1.5 gigs for a standard install IIRC
[04:31] <crxyem> ok, well, I've got a few different hard disk controllers, a promise sx4060, promise tx133, highpoint 100, and a highpoint 464, the sx4060 and the highpoint 464 are raid cards, but all I want is a nother disk controller so I can add 4-250gb drive and have access to tham any ideas ??
[04:31] <brendon> intelikey: what is your time problem?  I wasn't following.
[04:31] <Schuenemann> !iirc
[04:31] <ubotu> IIRC means "if I remember correctly"
[04:32] <Mr_Sonoma> bbiab
[04:32] <banksey> Does it actually mean that :D
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> banksey: yes :P
[04:32] <Schuenemann> I thought it had something to IRC
[04:33] <banksey> lol
[04:33] <intelikey> brendon setting the timezone to gmt-5 yelds wrong time for us  but setting it to  gmt+5 gives correct time for local but sets the rtc to 10hours off.
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> standard irc shorthand
[04:33] <Schuenemann> @now bahia
[04:33] <banksey> !irc
[04:33] <ubotu> Current time in America/Bahia: June 29 2007, 23:33:20 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 3 days
[04:33] <brendon> Schuenemann: it does.  since it only means that here!
[04:33] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:33] <banksey> Ahhhh, Internet Relay Chat
[04:33] <banksey> !mirc
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <Schuenemann> Next meeting: Technical Board in 3 days <--- what is this?
[04:34] <intelikey> brendon it has to be a but in the app.  nothing else i know of can explain such wierd behaviour
[04:34] <intelikey> unless   something needs a shell     hehhe :)
[04:34] <brendon> lol
[04:34] <banksey> Hmmm
[04:34] <banksey> !lol
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <intelikey> brendon but it was doing that months ago so it's not the passwd file
[04:35] <banksey> Dumb bot :P
[04:35] <intelikey> !botsnack
[04:35] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> i guess they figure that one's a gimme
[04:35] <Schuenemann> !b0rk3d
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b0rk3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <brendon> intelikey: you do have the hardware clock set to gmt?
[04:35] <banksey> !ubotu
[04:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:35] <banksey> LOL
[04:35] <intelikey> yes rebooted just to get into bios and make sure
[04:36] <banksey> Cocky lil thing
[04:36] <Schuenemann> ?
[04:37] <brendon> intelikey:  Does everything look good if you rgt click on the clock oon your desktop?
[04:37] <intelikey> brendon i have sense made sumlinks for timezone adjtime and localtime in /etc/  all pointing at /dev/null   problem solved.
[04:37] <intelikey> brendon what desktop ?
[04:37] <bryan> Hi intelikey
[04:37] <intelikey> brendon console only !
[04:38] <brendon> intelikey: Yes, a proper linuxer!
[04:38] <intelikey> bryan !
[04:38] <bryan> intelikey- was up
[04:38] <intelikey> d'nada
[04:38] <bryan> intelikey- remember my issue?
[04:39] <intelikey> probably not,  refresh me.
[04:39] <bryan> I try envy to install video card nvidia 7900gt
[04:39] <intelikey> ah yeah.
[04:39] <Schuenemann> I already gave up installing my video
[04:40] <bryan> I don't know if it was my router messing thing up or not
[04:40] <purpleposeidon> NX continues to amaze me. -_-
[04:40] <intelikey> bryan is it solved?  or do i run hide ?
[04:40] <intelikey> :)
[04:40] <bryan> But I had to remove it for now untill I get kubuntu going
[04:42] <bryan> When I ran the envy program it added my drivers for the vcard but when I restarted kubuntu did not log in
[04:42] <banksey> !GNOME
[04:42] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:43] <banksey> Does GNOME stand for something?
[04:43] <bryan> Heres a nother one for you intelikey
[04:43] <darkrift411> ok
[04:43] <bryan> How can you tell if router is going bad?
[04:43] <darkrift411> is there a way to upgrade drivers for an sd slot?
[04:44] <intelikey> bryan idk,  if the smoke sneeks out of it, it's bad ???
[04:45] <bryan> lol
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> bryan: you could try pinging it and see what it returns
[04:46] <intelikey> ah yes hit up the hitman for answers on that...
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> bryan: if you get a lot of lag or something else weird pops up
[04:46] <darkrift411> ok, i hjave a process that somehow lost its window
[04:46] <darkrift411> i can see it in the process list
[04:46] <darkrift411> how do i bring the window back?
[04:47] <intelikey> dcop    maybe
[04:47] <intelikey> but he left.....  !
[04:48] <darkrift411> holy *#%^
[04:48] <darkrift411> thats the first major linux crash ive seen
[04:48] <darkrift411> stuff flashed all over then went black
[04:48] <j_> cool
[04:48] <bryan> yes I do. Sometimes it works
[04:48] <darkrift411> and restarted :(
[04:48] <Biovore> ussualy if linux crashes it prints segfault info and frezzes
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> darkrift411: wow, that's weird and unusual
[04:49] <Biovore> hardware issue maybe..
[04:49] <level1> what are the main issues these days for 64 bit linux?  is it improving at all?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> darkrift411: did the whole system crash, or just X?
[04:49] <level1> darkrift411: was it a restart or just an Xorg crash?
[04:49] <darkrift411> just x
[04:49] <Biovore> considering linux was the first os ofr x86_64.  Almost overything works on it..
[04:49] <darkrift411> went back to the command line where x logged back in
[04:49] <ans_> Hi. I have a Fujitsu LifeBook B2630 that currently has Windows 2000 on it. I would like to install a dual boot Win 2000 / Kubuntu on it, but it being an ultraportable laptop, it doesn't have a CD-ROM drive or disk drive of any sort. I am guessing I can install it over a network, but I don't know where to start. Could someone steer me toward a tutorial or other info that may help? Thanks.
[04:49] <level1> Biovore: I hear the supportness is still lagging
[04:50] <level1> Biovore: like, drivers and stuff
[04:50] <brendonw> darkrift411: then it wasn't a linux crash
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> !net install
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about net install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <darkrift411> it was a crash, and it happened in linux
[04:50] <darkrift411> close enough for me
[04:50] <bryan> intilikey- will be back
[04:50] <darkrift411> later all
[04:50] <brendonw> then firefox does it for me all the time!
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> well, if an app crash means a system crash, then windows crashes hourly
[04:52] <brendonw> but it does...
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> waiting for that one
[04:52] <brendonw> I checked my main servers the other day.  uptime was nearly 500 days
[04:53] <intelikey> up 25 min,  0 users,
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> plus due to the modular nature of linux, a major crash usually isn't fatal
[04:53] <intelikey> i don't have users.
[04:53] <brendonw> I don't remember any of my servers crashing, ever.
[04:54] <intelikey> i can bring them down, you want them to crash ?
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, how the fsck did you pull that off? it should show at least one (you)
[04:55] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i don't login
[04:55] <intelikey> i'm init i can do anything.
[04:55] <brendonw> intelikey: I don't count a DOS attack as a crash.
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: now there's an interesting hack
[04:55] <intelikey> brendonw :)
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:57] <intelikey> i better hush i'll have some kid trying to install a rootkit on their box
[04:57] <intelikey> it has happened before.
[04:58] <brendonw> but its not like you are running windows.
[04:58] <intelikey> brendonw not at all.
[04:59] <brendonw> too bad she seems mental
[04:59] <intelikey> oh my.   some k-lines    that was quick...
[04:59] <brendonw> oops, that was for chat
[04:59] <intelikey> !ops | why all the k-lines  something is wrong.
[04:59] <ubotu> why all the k-lines  something is wrong.: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[04:59] <Biovore> rgr
[05:00] <Biovore> k-lined most of the channel
[05:00] <intelikey> soon to get all...
[05:01] <intelikey> someone has taken over a server ?    k-lines every where
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: someone hack an op acct?
[05:02] <TrueFX> how can i write files to an ntf partition?
[05:02] <intelikey> must have
[05:02] <dsmith_> wtf
[05:02] <TrueFX> is there a way to write ntfs partitions?
[05:02] <intelikey> some cracker did a full take over form the looks of it.
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nice, bad, but nice
[05:03] <intelikey> TrueFX better to let windows do that.
[05:03] <dsmith_> just ead ntfs
[05:03] <dsmith_> *read
[05:03] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah.
[05:03] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[05:03] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:04] <intelikey> dsmith_ ^
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: that may even be a server takeover...
[05:04] <intelikey> hitmanWilly that was what i said first.   those look to me like server side actions
[05:05] <intelikey> and it's obviously a script.
[05:05] <dsmith_> then why ae we still on?
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: sorry, missed that, do many K-line msgs :P
[05:05] <intelikey> no human could have k-lined 12k people that fast
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> s/do/too
[05:05] <dsmith_> no human, heh
[05:07] <TrueFX> how can i start ntfs configuration tool in kubuntu?
[05:07] <intelikey> ntfs configuration tool ???  you need a tool ?
[05:08] <dsmith_> intelikey: we now have 6 machines running kubuntuat the compnay
[05:08] <TrueFX> whatever it is
[05:08] <dsmith_> *company
[05:09] <intelikey> dsmith_ nice.  that's been what 6/7 months sense you started pushing them ?
[05:09] <dsmith_> yes..
[05:09] <dsmith_> all satellite remote offices
[05:09] <dsmith_> I bought new HP 1022 printers for them, installed on a Dell C521s
[05:10] <dsmith_> however the smaller ACER desktops work just as well. Same mobo arcitechure
[05:10] <intelikey> TrueFX if i knew anything about an ntfs configuration tool i'd try to help       maybe open a konsole and type   ntf[tab] [tab]       where [tab]  means the tab key.
[05:11] <dsmith_> I see that ubuntu is coming out with a home server as well :)
[05:11] <intelikey> thought that it came out with that in the hoary release ?
[05:11] <intelikey> or was it warty ?
[05:12] <intelikey> but you mean a gui config tool for it, right ?
[05:14] <dsmith_> http://www.ubuntuhomeserver.org/
[05:14] <dsmith_> hmmm firefox keeps crashing
[05:15] <julius> how do i set it to use double clicks?
[05:15] <intelikey> Anakin how did you get freenode to let you connect with 0 for an irc-username ???
[05:17] <intelikey> julius right click the desktop configure ???   run kcontrol and find the setting in there ?   get in the konqueror menu and configure it from there ?     i think all of those still work.
[05:18] <dianne_> can i have some help fixing my dpkg please
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: package database lock?
[05:18] <dianne_> nope
[05:18] <dianne_> i've installed a 3rd party package
[05:18] <dianne_> with dpkg -i
[05:19] <dianne_> and it's failed to install
[05:19] <dianne_> and i can't remove it
[05:19] <dianne_> with dpkg -r
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: try with --purge
[05:19] <dianne_> tried that
[05:19] <dianne_> didn't work
[05:19] <dianne_> it keeps telling me that I need to re-install it
[05:19] <dianne_> but every re-install fails
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: try dpkg --configure -a
[05:20] <dianne_> i've also done that
[05:20] <dianne_> and it failed
[05:20] <dianne_> to fix the problem
[05:20] <intelikey> dsmith_ yeah they are writing a gui for server config and admin   only the gui app will be new really.    server and desktop install cd's were both shipped togather  but have sense been seperated out and this will be added to the server cd
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: can you install other pkgs? or is dpkg totally borked?
[05:21] <dianne_> totally broken
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> !aptfix
[05:21] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:21] <dianne_> no, that wont help
[05:22] <dianne_> i didn't use adept
[05:22] <intelikey> dianne_ dpkg -P --force-all package     "not package-version.deb  just packagename"   you can obtain 'packagename' with dpkg -l | grep 'partialname'
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: yeah, that just removes the locks
[05:23] <fulat2k> hi folks, are there any screen capture apps which can scroll the window object while capturing?
[05:23] <dianne_> hitmanWilly: intelikey: no go
[05:23] <intelikey> be advised that playing with dpkg dirrectly is not gracious nor forgiving.   know what you are doing or don't cry about it if it breaks things.
[05:24] <dianne_> errors while processing
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: can you pastebin the output?
[05:24] <intelikey> pastebin the output
[05:24] <dianne_> intelikey: i did a right click on the file in konqueror
[05:24] <dianne_> where do i pastebin to?
[05:25] <intelikey> !paste
[05:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <FireHazard17> to #pastebin
[05:25] <FireHazard17> orly?
[05:25] <FireHazard17> i thought you did it on #patsebin not somewebsite
[05:26] <intelikey> now you know.
[05:26] <dianne_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27899/
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> and knowing is half the battle :P
[05:27] <FireHazard17> ill still use #pastebin though
[05:27] <intelikey> that's not the full text.
[05:27] <intelikey> dianne_ what else did it say ?
[05:27] <dianne_> it should be...
[05:27] <dianne_> that's ll
[05:27] <dianne_> all
[05:27] <dianne_> what command do u want me to run
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> there should be a --verbose option
[05:28] <dianne_> ok ill run it with verbose
[05:29] <intelikey> that should have removed it already.  those errors are not important with the  --force-all switch.
[05:29] <intelikey> i'm guessing that it's not installed now.
[05:29] <dianne_> i still cant install anything
[05:29] <dianne_> because of this package
[05:30] <intelikey> dianne_ show me the output of: dpkg -l | grep conexant
[05:30] <dianne_> dianne@dianne-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep conexant
[05:30] <dianne_> pHR conexant                               192-1ubuntu-1                          modem modules for conexant hsf models
[05:30] <dianne_> dianne@dianne-desktop:~$
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> it is still there
[05:31] <dianne_> yea
[05:31] <intelikey> pHR removed.
[05:31] <intelikey> but still a problem with the R running.
[05:32] <dianne_> i dont understand the pHR
[05:32] <intelikey> dianne_  lsmod | grep conex
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> oh...duh
[05:32] <dianne_> nothing
[05:33] <Evolution3> i would like to install a QtCurve theme but i dont know how. help anyone?
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> Evolution3: should be an option in kcontrol
[05:34] <intelikey> dianne_ ok i'll give you a hack that "should" solve this,  but it's just that 'a hack'    you want ?
[05:34] <dianne_> sure.. saves a re-install
[05:34] <Evolution3> hitmanWilly: i dont know how to do it. iam kinda new
[05:34] <dianne_> if it works :p
[05:35] <intelikey> dianne_ echo true | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/conexant.postrm ;sudo dpkg -r conexant
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> Evolution2: alt-f2, kcontrol, Appearance & Themes --> Theme Manager
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nice :P
[05:36] <dianne_> intelikey: what will that do?
[05:36] <intelikey> it will make dpkg ignore the post removal script that i throwing the error.
[05:37] <dianne_> dianne@dianne-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep conexant
[05:37] <dianne_> rHR conexant                               192-1ubuntu-1                          modem modules for conexant hsf models
[05:37] <dianne_> it didn't fix it :(
[05:37] <intelikey> dianne_ did you run that command   ^ ?
[05:37] <dianne_> yes, absolutely
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nice try, tho :)
[05:38] <intelikey> dianne_ no errors ?
[05:38] <Evolution2> hitmanWilly: yeah i got there but it wont let me install it. the .tar is on my desktop
[05:38] <bryan> envy depends on build-essential ????
[05:38] <bryan> what does that mean?
[05:38] <intelikey> yes it does bryan
[05:39] <intelikey> means install 'build-essential'
[05:39] <dianne_> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/
[05:39] <bryan> how?
[05:40] <dianne_> intelikey: is there a way to 'fake' the install
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> Evolution2: untar it in a directory like ~/themes and try installing it then (~ means your home dir)
[05:40] <intelikey> dianne_ ah ok so sudo apt-get install -f    then run that same line again.
[05:40] <dianne_> E: The package conexant needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> wow, that's one borked dpkg
[05:41] <dianne_> yeah
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: can she move the deb into apt's cache dir?
[05:41] <dianne_> ill do that
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> dianne_: wait a minute
[05:41] <intelikey> hitmanWilly wont help.  it's not looking for a file it's reading the database.
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: maybe force install then remove it?
[05:42] <intelikey> try it and see.
[05:42] <^V^> bryan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyone have any good suggestions for avi encoders?
[05:43] <^V^> Guilty_as_Sin: avi is just a container format
[05:43] <bryan> thanx
[05:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah..  I just want to rip from a home dvd and encode to avi for easier transfer to family
[05:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> just something smaller..  a lil easier to email.
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: divx or xvid encoder is probably what you want
[05:44] <^V^> what I mean is, it is just a file format, and could be encoded as anything
[05:44] <intelikey> dianne_ translate packagename and /path/to in this   and use:  sudo dpkg -i --force-all /path/to/packagename.deb ; echo true | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/conexant.postrm ;sudo dpkg -r conexant
[05:45] <dr_willis> xvid is good  :)
[05:45] <^V^> mpeg for instance
[05:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> I was figuring on xvid
[05:45] <dianne_> intelikey: no go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27902/
[05:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks..  just wanted to know your opinions
[05:45] <intelikey> forcing install to force a remove is not my idea of good package management but if it works...
[05:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes mpeg
[05:45] <^V^> depends on what your uses of the video will be, do you want high quality or small file size?
[05:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> a combo of both
[05:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> two pass I assume
[05:47] <dianne_> intelikey: is there a way to make dpkg believe that it's installed correctly?
[05:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have worked w/ a lot of dvd editors and such back in windows..  just not that skilled at avi encoding or any of it's software
[05:47] <intelikey> dianne_ hmmm  not that i know of.
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> s/apt/dpkg
[05:48] <dianne_> argh
[05:48] <dr_willis> I tend to use that avidumix program
[05:48] <dr_willis> !find acid
[05:48] <ubotu> Found: acidbase, acidrip
[05:48] <dr_willis> !find avid
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[05:49] <dr_willis> avidemux
[05:49] <^V^> Guilty_as_Sin: try acidrip
[05:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> say you wanted aXXo quality..  what kind of app could accomplish that kind of quality?
[05:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> I've seen some of his work and it's practically dvd quality if you ask me
[05:50] <intelikey> dianne_ you can edit the scripts  kdesu kate /var/lib/dpkg/info/conexant.*     and add  /bin/true    as the new second line of each script   "note that command will open the .list file too. ignore it."  save and run;  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:50] <bryan> how would I know if my vcard wasinstalled ?
[05:50] <FireHazard17> bryan: what DE?
[05:51] <bryan> sorry whats ED?
[05:51] <bryan> sorry DE?
[05:51] <underdog5004> bryan, video card? type in lspci
[05:51] <FireHazard17> Desktop Envirment
[05:51] <intelikey> dianne_ i had to do that one time.  not fun not clean but affective.  that will "make dpkg 'think' it configured correctly"  as per your question.
[05:51] <bryan> nvidia 7900 gt used envy to install
[05:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok of to sudo...
[05:52] <FireHazard17> envy?
[05:52] <bryan> yes
[05:52] <FireHazard17> DEs are GNOME, KDE, XFCE
[05:52] <underdog5004> bryan, open up a terminal, and type in glxinfo | grep direct
[05:52] <FireHazard17> what is envy?
[05:52] <dianne_> i dont need to do the conffiles or the md5sums either i expect
[05:52] <bryan> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:52] <underdog5004> if it says direct rendering = yes or true then it's installed nicely
[05:53] <intelikey> correct
[05:53] <dianne_> intelikey:  there's only   two files to edit
[05:53] <dr_willis> envy is a script to install the nvidia drivers.. Not reallyneeded unless you want the latest versions
[05:53] <FireHazard17> underdog5004: yeah thats to tell if hardware acceleration works
[05:53] <intelikey> dianne_ from two to four is normal
[05:53] <FireHazard17> i want the latest versions
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> I thought envy was a hack?
[05:53] <FireHazard17> i my self am a gamer
[05:53] <bryan> glxinfo | grep direct says yes
[05:53] <underdog5004> FireHazard17, that seems like the only thing you can't tell immediately. If he can see the desktop, the driver is working, but the hardware acceleration is the thing to have.
[05:53] <intelikey> dianne_  a pre and post  rm and inst
[05:54] <FireHazard17> bryan: good
[05:54] <crdlb> FireHazard17, nvidia-glx-new is plenty new enough
[05:54] <intelikey> and/or
[05:54] <underdog5004> bryan, good, it's installed nicely
[05:54] <FireHazard17> crdlb: that is what i have but i s really new enough?
[05:54] <crdlb> FireHazard17, yes
[05:54] <dianne_> intelikey: well it wont install
[05:54] <dianne_> remove*
[05:54] <dianne_> brb
[05:55] <bryan> how do I know if accelerations is working
[05:55] <crdlb> FireHazard17, the newer versions don't really offer much other than support for the 8xxx cards
[05:55] <intelikey> glxinfo
[05:55] <underdog5004> bryan: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:55] <underdog5004> it's working already
[05:55] <intelikey> glxgears
[05:56] <intelikey> underdog5004 all i get out glx* is   Error: unable to open display (null)
[05:56] <bryan> Thanks.  It worked on till the 3rd time a reinstalled kubuntu
[05:56] <Guilty_as_Sin> acidrip is perfect, thanks ^V^
[05:56] <underdog5004> intelikey, what do you mean?
[05:56] <^V^> bryan: glxgears -printfps
[05:56] <FireHazard17> crdlb: what if i hav a 8800 i said i as a gamer
[05:57] <^V^> and let us know what sort of numbers you are getting
[05:57] <FireHazard17> crdlb: what if i had a 8800 i said i was a gamer*
[05:57] <bryan> what would that do?
[05:57] <intelikey> heh i means that's all it will print form any glx command underdog5004   :)
[05:57] <FireHazard17> sorry for the typos
[05:57] <crdlb> FireHazard17, if you have 3d accel working on the 8800, there's no point in upgrading
[05:57] <^V^> bryan: runs glxgears and prints the fps
[05:57] <underdog5004> weird...
[05:57] <underdog5004> intelikey, what type of video card do you have?
[05:57] <intelikey> nv
[05:57] <crdlb> there's a not insignificant chance of envy breaking your nvidia drivers
[05:58] <crdlb> leaving you with no choice but to reinstall kubuntu
[05:58] <underdog5004> weird...
[05:58] <intelikey> underdog5004 you test it in a console and see if it works for you   :)
[05:58] <underdog5004> glxinfo | grep direct ?
[05:58] <underdog5004> ok
[05:58] <underdog5004> direct rendering: Yes
[05:58] <underdog5004> see?
[05:59] <FireHazard17> i dont have 8800 anyway
[05:59] <intelikey> that's not from a console
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004: intellikey spends 95% of his time in a terminal anyway :)
[05:59] <underdog5004> :)
[05:59] <FireHazard17> just a 7600 with 512 ram and a bit overclocked
[05:59] <intelikey> underdog5004 that's from a x terminal  not  a console
[05:59] <underdog5004> I think there was some kind of problem with cards that have 512Mb of RAM...not sure about it though
[06:00] <FireHazard17> underdog5004: nope
[06:00] <underdog5004> intelikey, ok...I did that from rxvt
[06:00] <FireHazard17> underdog5004: i had heard with 256
[06:00] <underdog5004> oh, ok
[06:00] <FireHazard17> never 512 though
[06:00] <intelikey> yes and rxvt != console
[06:00] <FireHazard17> and mine works fine
[06:00] <underdog5004> *sigh*
[06:00] <FireHazard17> underdog5004: sigh?
[06:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> is acid rip ac3 capable at all?  just curious
[06:00] <bryan> how long does glxgears run for
[06:01] <FireHazard17> forever
[06:01] <FireHazard17> til you terminate it
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> bryan: until you shut it off
[06:01] <^V^> acidrip is just a gui frontend for Mplayer and Mencoder
[06:01] <bryan> so what do I do now?
[06:01] <level1> you know how theres that delay when you plug in an external hard drive before it gets mounted?  can you reduce that delay?
[06:01] <^V^> what number do you get for FPS?
[06:01] <^V^> pick one
[06:01] <bryan> what am I looking for?
[06:01] <underdog5004> intelikey, hey, you're right...what do you know about that?
[06:01] <intelikey> console = tty (vt)   rxvt = xterm = konsole = terminal emulators for the x windows system
[06:02] <intelikey> we maybe not  ==   but =~  on that last string  ^
[06:02] <FireHazard17> the number before FPS
[06:02] <bryan> 111627 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22325.213 FPS
[06:02] <underdog5004> bryan, type in glxgears -printfps
[06:02] <underdog5004> intelikey, gotcha
[06:02] <FireHazard17> i get 8000 fps when its minimized
[06:02] <^V^> bryan: yeah, thats good
[06:03] <FireHazard17> holy shit that is good
[06:03] <underdog5004> ha ha ha, I get 1800
[06:03] <FireHazard17> lol
[06:03] <bryan> cool so now I can run beryl?
[06:03] <underdog5004> about 50 when it's up...I've also got beryl going though
[06:03] <^V^> bryan: what video card have you got?
[06:03] <FireHazard17> 7800
[06:03] <bryan> nvidia 7900 gt
[06:03] <FireHazard17> oh 7000
[06:04] <FireHazard17> oh 7900*
[06:04] <underdog5004> bryan, if you're on fiesty, I think that beryl is in the repositories
[06:04] <intelikey> really why would anyone need more than 120 fps  ????  you can't see more than that..
[06:04] <bryan> yes but do I have to install something else before?
[06:04] <dr_willis> half the time - people come in here asking how to set up Beryl, then a day later.. they come in asking how to disable it. :)
[06:04] <FireHazard17> intelikey: in glxgears?
[06:05] <intelikey> in reality
[06:05] <FireHazard17> you dont
[06:05] <dr_willis> I thought in reality over 60 or so.. is hard to detect.
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> the human eye can't see past 120 fps
[06:05] <FireHazard17> but 8000 fps for glx fears = 60 i most games
[06:05] <dr_willis> Planks Constant of FPS division. :)
[06:05] <bryan> I had it before but it gave me issues? I just have it to show those MS fanboys
[06:06] <intelikey> dr_willis yeah for most 60-72 is the threshold  but some do "claim" that up to 88-90 is detectable   so i was generous and said 120  nothing living has even been able to prove vision of that magnatude
[06:06] <FireHazard17> i want 2 8800 ultras
[06:06] <dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <bryan> KNow to a new one. How do I make the pages burn?
[06:07] <dr_willis> I rember the old days of the amiga and its 'interlaced' mode of like 30 mhz refersh rates...
[06:07] <FireHazard17> but i dont really wanna spend $2000 on my graphicks card
[06:07] <intelikey> mhz ????   hz !
[06:07] <bryan> why 2 8800 ultras?
[06:07] <dr_willis> hel i cant rember. :)
[06:07] <dr_willis> it was on a TV.
[06:07] <dr_willis> Micro Hurtz
[06:08] <intelikey> mega
[06:08] <FireHazard17> bryan: so i have an eyegasm
[06:08] <dr_willis> "anti jitter screens" = Plexiglass/polarized  screens
[06:08] <bryan> lol
[06:08] <Minataku> 60Hz doesn't bother me
[06:08] <ArtiFACT> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032946351484040588&q=kill+the+president&total=874&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
[06:08] <Minataku> And heya, dr_willis
[06:08] <ArtiFACT> watch that..
[06:08] <ArtiFACT> you'll get it.
[06:09] <Minataku> Still entertaining (or perhaps boring) houseguests? X3
[06:09] <FireHazard17> im forced to have 60hz on my new crappy ass moniter
[06:09] <intelikey> Minataku some times i think it does me.  but not all the time.  72 never bothers me tho.
[06:09] <FireHazard17> its a measky 15 in.
[06:09] <bryan> ok guys I do I make pages burn when exit them
[06:09] <Minataku> I use an LCD now primarily
[06:09] <Minataku> Though my TV set is still 60Hz
[06:09] <underdog5004> FireHazard17, yuck
[06:09] <dr_willis> I need to get another lcd someday
[06:09] <FireHazard17> im using lcd
[06:10] <Minataku> Piyoko's LCD hinge broke for good
[06:10] <Minataku> I had to fix it with the wall mount bracket from a fire extinguisher
[06:10] <bryan> How long does a router last
[06:10] <Minataku> The extinguisher sits on a table so it's fine
[06:10] <dianne_> intelikey: any other ideas about my borked dpkg?
[06:10] <intelikey> lcd  ummm to much backlight  to dirrectional
[06:10] <Minataku> bryan: Very long time if treated well
[06:10] <FireHazard17> before this a had a 17 or 19 in crt that went up to 80hz on 1024 x 768 and 1280 x 1024 at 60 hz
[06:10] <bryan> treated well?
[06:11] <FireHazard17> but i "upgraded"
[06:11] <bryan> It just sit there
[06:11] <FireHazard17> kinda
[06:11] <Minataku> bryan: Then it should technically last forever
[06:11] <intelikey> dianne_ just the config scripts and the dpkg --configure -a    that's all i would do if i was there.   unless new information comes in.
[06:11] <bryan> what are the signs of one going bad?
[06:12] <Minataku> bryan: Smoke is a good one
[06:12] <bryan> lol
[06:12] <Minataku> Lack of function is another good one
[06:12] <Minataku> XD
[06:12] <Minataku> If it starts acting funny, basically
[06:12] <Minataku> Or smelling
[06:13] <underdog5004> bryan, my router kept overheating from excessive network traffic, so I popped a heatsink and fan on it. I've got a pic somewhere...
[06:13] <Minataku> But if it keeps rebooting or dropping and there's nothing weird in the logs, then it may be getting flaky
[06:13] <intelikey> dianne_ they tell me that dpkg + apt +   is the best package management in the linux world.   (personally i had less trubble with rpm + urpm in mandrake)    but it sure is furstrating when you break it.
[06:13] <bryan> well I think I got abad ones.  It on 24/7 for about 2yrs and runs 2 x360 to pc's
[06:13] <dianne_> intelikey: yeah nothing works i did the --configure -a, and nothing.. so i redid an install that fails
[06:13] <dianne_> intelikey: so what the upshot of it is... i need to re-install kubuntu?
[06:14] <dianne_> it's ok, since it's a fresh install atm
[06:14] <intelikey> dianne_ gripe like hell that the package maker  ;/    and reload i guess.   i hate to say that but if dpkg can't be fixed the system is in a static state.
[06:14] <intelikey> s/that/at/
[06:15] <dianne_> intelikey: thanks for your help (even though we couldn't fix it) at least you tried
[06:15] <intelikey> yeah. sorry it's a no go for you.
[06:15] <dianne_> intelikey: i apreciate that
[06:16] <dianne_> np
[06:16] <dianne_> like i said, it's a fresh install so nothings lost
[06:16] <Minataku>  00:14:46 up 110 days, 19:40,  5 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.20, 0.21
[06:16] <Minataku> Niiiiice
[06:16] <intelikey> and do file a bug report on that package     where ever it came from.
[06:17] <dianne_> sure
[06:17] <intelikey> if people don't squalk when things like that happen they don't get fixed.
[06:18] <FireHazard17> bad deb?
[06:18] <FireHazard17> what happened?
[06:18] <intelikey> FireHazard17 broken dpkg
[06:18] <underdog5004> bryan, http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9263/dscn0335uc0.jpg
[06:18] <SRN9> Hey anyone have issues with repos not working?
[06:18] <intelikey> can't install can't remove
[06:18] <underdog5004> SRN9, nope
[06:18] <Minataku> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/06/29/1613243.shtml << Apparantly, giving away your own stuff for free is against the music industry's rules as well
[06:18] <FireHazard17> that sucks
[06:19] <SRN9> Hmmm well I cant get an update for my list and everything seems fine
[06:19] <FireHazard17> wanna compile dpkg from source or just reinstall?
[06:19] <coreymon77> Minataku: what do you mean by "your own stuff"
[06:19] <Minataku> Read the link
[06:19] <FireHazard17> like physical albums?
[06:19] <Minataku> Usually text accompanying a link is related in some way to the content of the link
[06:19] <FireHazard17> thats not cool
[06:20] <underdog5004> !offtopic
[06:20] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:20] <intelikey> SRN9 close the package manager, open a konsole and type in; sudo apt-get update
[06:20] <jzilla> I'm a little confused here. I find no entry of Konversation in any of my "autostart" folders, and option inside of Konversation itself. However, it lauches everytime I restart. Whats the soulition here?
[06:20] <Minataku> underdog5004: It's on topic since as consumers it affects us
[06:20] <FireHazard17> oh lol
[06:20] <intelikey> SRN9 that should be more revieling as to what is up.
[06:20] <FireHazard17> just read the link
[06:20] <Minataku> Prince is going to release a free CD and the music industry is going apepoop over it
[06:21] <dr_willis> Theres a session managemenbt feature of KDE where it rembers what was open when you logged out. and it trys to restart it.
[06:21] <dr_willis> Minataku,  Cool! i'll Buy it!
[06:21] <SRN9> thats what I tried...
[06:21] <dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <underdog5004> I would reply...but I'm not an op...do what y'all want
[06:21] <underdog5004> lol
[06:21] <coreymon77> Minataku: "apepoop" ncie censoring! :P
[06:21] <FireHazard17> 'The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behavior like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores.
[06:21] <FireHazard17> lmao
[06:21] <Minataku> coreymon77: Heehee
[06:21] <intelikey> SRN9 what errors did you get ?
[06:21] <dr_willis> FireHazard17,  I do belive he has his own Independent Record Lable.
[06:21] <jzilla> dr_willis: i am aware of the auto restart feature, however it's never open when i restart.
[06:21] <Minataku> dr_willis: Oh, still got guests?
[06:22] <dr_willis> Minataku,  yes.. so i am hiding in my room
[06:22] <dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <dr_willis> they NEVER want to leave.
[06:22] <Minataku> I'm sure the music industry assumes that because he's signed to a label he's automatically their property :P
[06:22] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heh
[06:22] <SRN9> Connection refused... and- W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:22] <intelikey> Minataku yep.
[06:23] <SRN9> Failedto fetch ect.
[06:23] <intelikey> SRN9 that's not an error   that's a warning    what "errors" ?
[06:23] <FireHazard17> i think it grea that hes giving some away
[06:24] <intelikey> SRN9 that simply means that the server was down or that the url was bad
[06:24] <Minataku> Yeah
[06:24] <FireHazard17> they are just jeous becuase this is gonna give him huge attention
[06:24] <SRN9> Hmmm to all of the repos? Main restricted Univers ect?
[06:25] <FireHazard17> i may may his new album just becuase he gave so many copies away
[06:25] <intelikey> SRN9 yeap if that's all you are getting.  then it's a network issue.  not ca configuration of apt issue.
[06:25] <dr_willis> I liked how weird al's latest cd was a dvd with videos on the flipside. :)
[06:25] <intelikey> SRN9 firewall maybe ?
[06:25] <bryan> intelikey-how long have youran kubuntu?
[06:25] <SRN9> Hmmm, im assuming network issue on my side then.
[06:26] <intelikey> SRN9 router misconfigured ?
[06:26] <SRN9> last I checked I diodnt have one running.
[06:26] <SRN9> No router direct connect to modem.
[06:26] <jack_> stellrium isnt working any idea why
[06:27] <intelikey> bryan  ubuntu specificaly sense hoary released. 5.4  so early 2005  linux in general   idk...
[06:27] <intelikey> bryan slackware 4.0 i think ....
[06:27] <neonlinux> anyone know how to check the connection speed of a network card... its a gigabit card.. connected to a 100mb network..?
[06:27] <dr_willis> theres a ethtool command i think that tells ya that
[06:28] <intelikey> when ever that was
[06:28] <dr_willis> ethtool  eth0
[06:28] <neonlinux> dr_willis: thanks
[06:28] <intelikey> bryan why do you ask ?
[06:30] <intelikey> bryan you do know that ubuntu started with warty 4.10 then hoary 5.04 then breezy 5.10 then dapper 6.06   edgy 6.10  now fiesty 7.04    right ?
[06:31] <Minataku> What happened to < 4.10?
[06:31] <intelikey> Minataku there is none.
[06:32] <xkpablo> 4 comes from 2004 and 10 comes from october
[06:32] <Minataku> Ah
[06:32] <bryan> well I'm new to the kubutu
[06:32] <intelikey> unless you can enlighten me on that point..
[06:32] <Minataku> Date-based
[06:33] <bryan> The reason is that you know alot of info
[06:33] <intelikey> i was there when the fellas started talking about making a new distro...   "i wasn't really interested then"
[06:33] <intelikey> still not i guess....
[06:33] <xkpablo> :))
[06:34] <bryan> is kubutu as good as the ones you payfor?
[06:34] <intelikey> bryan i have never "paid for linux" ...  so i don't know.
[06:35] <intelikey> in the strict sense of that phrase of course
[06:35] <jzilla> if i had to guess, id say the only thing that is "better" would be support?
[06:35] <Ultim4T0m> hi all
[06:35] <jzilla> and irc has been able to solve all my problems
[06:35] <bryan> hi
[06:35] <FireHazard17> i never have paid for linux either
[06:35] <intelikey> jzilla what are you saying about us ???
[06:35] <FireHazard17> i have tried many diffent distros too
[06:35] <intelikey> :)
[06:35] <jzilla> you guys own ;o
[06:35] <FireHazard17> :)
[06:36] <dr_willis> some of the ones you pay for - include nice books/docs, and some times comerical software. :)
[06:36] <dr_willis> but its hard to justify the cost.
[06:36] <jzilla> its easy to justify free, though.
[06:36] <FireHazard17> anyone else listen to primus?
[06:36] <intelikey> not if you buy windows it's not doc  :)
[06:36] <bryan> is there any games for linux that would use my vcard 7900gt to its max.
[06:37] <UbuntuServerUser> I'm having trouble with samba...I set everything up correctly. when I enter in my ip address and connect to the box, I can connect, but when  I try to click the share and it gives me generic windows error " Public is not accessible" wtf? == ALSO i can't see the box under network throught a windows GUI??? HERE is my http://pastebin.ca/596720
[06:37] <intelikey> bryan i hope not...
[06:37] <bryan> y?
[06:37] <FireHazard17> nexuiz maybe
[06:37] <dr_willis> UbuntuServerUser,  ya know,. ya could clarify the question a bit. and not just repeat it over and over. :)
[06:37] <dr_willis> UbuntuServerUser,  start with a real simple samba config and work your way up I guess. Heh
[06:37] <intelikey> any game that can display 1housands of fps .... that would just be bloat.
[06:37] <jzilla> bryan: most iD games have linux clients (like doom3), alot of popular game will run with Wine or Cedega as well.
[06:37] <FireHazard17> i taled to some one with a 8800 who said he didnt turn on all the option
[06:38] <UbuntuServerUser> dr_willis lol any server where your not? letme try and be more clear
[06:38] <FireHazard17> 99% were on full though
[06:38] <dr_willis> UbuntuServerUser,  this is 1 server. :) im in 3 channels.
[06:38] <FireHazard17> :P
[06:38] <FireHazard17> god i want an 8800
[06:38] <dr_willis> UbuntuServerUser,  did ya see myt sample 'public' share i posted?
[06:38] <FireHazard17> not even an ultra
[06:38] <UbuntuServerUser> dr_willis yessir, looked exactly like mine
[06:39] <UbuntuServerUser> http://pastebin.ca/596720
[06:39] <UbuntuServerUser> hold on letme see if the debians know a thing or two
[06:39] <dr_willis> what i pasted did NOT look exactly like yours.. :)
[06:39] <dr_willis> if pastebin got the changes...
[06:39] <DebianServerUser> btw pastebin.ca 10 x faster
[06:40] <intelikey> faster than ?
[06:40] <DebianServerUser> first google result of pastebin
[06:40] <DebianServerUser> think its pastebin.com
[06:40] <intelikey> oh that.  yeah
[06:40] <bryan> is AV neede on kubuntu?
[06:40] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  http://pastebin.ca/596733
[06:41] <intelikey> there are pastebin.<put your nl code here>  for a lot of countries now.
[06:42] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis hmmm maybe its my directory mask = 0755 vs your 0700
[06:42] <DebianServerUser> whats volume do?
[06:42] <DebianServerUser> and where are your global settings?
[06:42] <intelikey> directory mask ???   or permissions ?
[06:42] <DebianServerUser> intelikey know anything about samba?
[06:42] <intelikey> mask of 755 would leave it unaccessable to the owner   no?
[06:43] <DebianServerUser> ahhhh
[06:43] <intelikey> DebianServerUser no not a samba or networking fellow.
[06:43] <bryan> intelikey- is AV needed on kubuntu?
[06:43] <intelikey> but mask generally means decreese by
[06:43] <DebianServerUser> well than...what the hell this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5b566cc10844a160405c4c5cdecfc041&t=202605 told a 0775 switch
[06:44] <intelikey> !virus | bryan
[06:44] <ubotu> bryan: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:44] <intelikey> bryan it's a good read.  ^
[06:45] <ubuntu> alguem pode me dizer como ativo o desktop 3d no kubuntu
[06:45] <ubuntu> 7.0
[06:46] <bryan> great infi intelikey
[06:46] <intelikey> :)
[06:46] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  thats just for file creation.
[06:46] <DebianServerUser> 0700?
[06:47] <dr_willis> That wont be why you cant see the shares from windows.
[06:47] <intelikey> !es | ubuntu
[06:47] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:48] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis OK let me clarify that
[06:48] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis I click run > \\ip of my server and I get logged in
[06:48] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis however I cannot access "Public" the only share I have setup there
[06:48] <zouzou> hi all
[06:49] <zouzou> i got a problem with the internet
[06:49] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis BUT when I go to windows networking thingy, I can't see my server's icon, its not there the usual workgroup thing
[06:49] <intelikey> as i was saying,   a mask=777  would make an inode have perms  of  000    or  ---------   no access.    while a mask=000  would yeld   777 perms or  rwxrwxrwx
[06:49] <DebianServerUser> !question !zouzou
[06:49] <DebianServerUser> !question | zouzou
[06:49] <ubotu> zouzou: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:49] <zouzou> when i try to connect to the hotmail server, i ca't
[06:49] <zouzou> can't connect to my email or IM
[06:49] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  it could be all the other settings yopu got at the start of that samba config. goofing things up. I tend to leave things real real basic.
[06:50] <DebianServerUser> OK i just restarted samba with 0700 and it doesn't work
[06:50] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  you DO need to set the right permissions on the Public Direcoty on the linux box for the share to work right.
[06:50] <DebianServerUser> uhh ok
[06:50] <DebianServerUser> chmod?
[06:50] <dr_willis> the umask stuff will only be affecting file creation
[06:50] <intelikey> that's a hotmail thing.   they use some really convoluted server settings   and while it is possable to use hotmail with linux it's not easy.
[06:50] <dr_willis> That USing Samba book. has a example of setting up a /Public share.
[06:51] <DebianServerUser> sudo chmod 0777 /srv/public ?
[06:51] <dr_willis> I just did a 'chmod 777 /Public'    perhaps not the best  - but it works.
[06:51] <zouzou> it wasn't like this tho intelikey
[06:52] <zouzou> ok thanx anyway
[06:52] <intelikey> just don't chmod 7777 it...   :)
[06:52] <DebianServerUser> when I'm in /srv and do ls it says "permissions denied"
[06:52] <DebianServerUser> sudo ls works
[06:53] <intelikey> DebianServerUser ls -l /srv
[06:53] <DebianServerUser> intelikey mit is linux so anal bout everything I can't even follow this guide correctly ??? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5b566cc10844a160405c4c5cdecfc041&t=202605
[06:53] <dr_willis> dosent /srv have to be chmod 777 also?
[06:53] <DebianServerUser> OK i'lll do tht
[06:53] <dr_willis> Theres a reason i got mine in /Public not /Somthing/Public :) heh
[06:54] <dr_willis> but no idea if thats the problem here or not
[06:54] <DebianServerUser> should I not chmod 777 I just did
[06:54] <sumigamer> guys what is the KDE equivalent of gdesklets??
[06:54] <DebianServerUser> gaaaaaaaaaaaaah that didn't work its still inaccessable
[06:54] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  you are also setting a lot of samba settings that ive NEVER had to mess with
[06:55] <dr_willis> so id say start small :) read those  books.. play with it.
[06:55] <DebianServerUser> OK dr_willis I'm going to just use your config and see what happens
[06:55] <DebianServerUser> secondly how do I reset permissions on /srv
[06:55] <intelikey> DebianServerUser wait just a minute.  is that just a dir on the linux system or is something mounted there ?
[06:56] <DebianServerUser> /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /srv
[06:56] <DebianServerUser> should I smile because you figured it out ;)
[06:56] <intelikey> that's it.  you can't change perms on M$ file systems   they don't have any
[06:56] <DebianServerUser> huh?
[06:57] <intelikey> what fs type is  /dev/hdb1 ?
[06:57] <DebianServerUser> ext3
[06:57] <intelikey> then that's not it
[06:57] <intelikey> ok carry on.
[06:58] <DebianServerUser> ok imma do willi's config, but how do I reset permissions on /srv
[06:58] <intelikey> same way you set it
[06:58] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  http://pastebin.ca/596754   - my full config
[06:58] <intelikey> chmod 755 /srv
[06:59] <DebianServerUser> 755 is always default?
[06:59] <dr_willis> normally
[06:59] <intelikey> not always but on most things
[06:59] <sumigamer> guys what is the KDE equivalent of gdesklets??
[06:59] <dr_willis> !info karamba
[06:59] <ubotu> karamba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB
[06:59] <dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[06:59] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[06:59] <bryan> how to install nexuiz
[06:59] <DebianServerUser> I can still ls it w/o sudo
[06:59] <DebianServerUser> w/e
[07:00] <dr_willis> sudo ing on a samba share? huh?
[07:00] <sumigamer> thanks for that....
[07:00] <intelikey> you can decypher that can't you ?   7 is octal form of the three digit binary perm  111  or rwx  as the digits corespond
[07:01] <evsophomore2009> !Wine
[07:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:01] <evsophomore2009> #wine
[07:01] <intelikey> so then 755 is 111101101 or rwxr-xr-x
[07:02] <intelikey> /join #wine
[07:02] <bryan> ?
[07:03] <intelikey> !find nexuiz
[07:03] <ubotu> Found: nexuiz, nexuiz-data, nexuiz-music, nexuiz-server
[07:03] <intelikey> !info nexuiz
[07:03] <ubotu> nexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[07:03] <intelikey> bryan package manager install
[07:03] <evsophomore2009> anyone know why i cant use iTunes with WINE?
[07:04] <intelikey> cause you left shoe laces it pulled too tight ?
[07:04] <intelikey> errr maybe not.
[07:04] <evsophomore2009> Seriously
[07:04] <evsophomore2009> like this is annoying me
[07:04] <navets> how can i burn an .avi to be played on a regular dvd player
[07:04] <dr_willis> sorry we are not Wine experts in here.
[07:04] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis cuople qusetions, 1 what should I change volume to, and what is auto services = willis Public homes mean?
[07:05] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  still aint read those books yet eh> :)
[07:05] <intelikey> evsophomore2009 i really don't know... sorry
[07:05] <evsophomore2009> whats the wine channel?
[07:05] <dr_willis> auto services are ones shown in the /workgroup/pcname/STUFF automaticially
[07:05] <DebianServerUser> :( lol sorry have had a chance yet
[07:05] <dr_willis> that saves me some time.  my user (willis) share is always shown, as is Public
[07:05] <intelikey> !transcode
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <dr_willis> homes is not really needed I guess. :)
[07:05] <intelikey> !info transcode
[07:05] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2379 kB, installed size 5496 kB
[07:05] <DebianServerUser> k idk what that does so i'mma just comment it out
[07:06] <dr_willis> volume is not really imporntant either.
[07:06] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  have it auto service the shares you WANT to use. can save some time
[07:06] <intelikey> navets maybe with transcode ???
[07:06] <dr_willis> they dont have to get scanned.
[07:07] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis, shares, so for me that would be /srv/public or just public?
[07:07] <intelikey> !dvd
[07:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:07] <intelikey> navets maybe those links will help ^
[07:08] <dr_willis> I used Public - since thats the share name     [Public] 
[07:08] <dr_willis> 
[07:08] <DebianServerUser> caps matter in linux?
[07:08] <underdog5004> oh yeah!
[07:08] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  in Linux yes.. In samba. not so much.
[07:08] <intelikey> absoultely
[07:09] <dr_willis> Samba/network neighborhood tends to UPPERCASE the share/workgroup names
[07:09] <evsophomore2009> anyone know the Wine Channel? #wine dosent work
[07:09] <bryan> intelikey- using kpackage now what?
[07:09] <dr_willis> !wine
[07:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:09] <dr_willis> Hmm !wine-hq perhaps?
[07:09] <dr_willis> Hmm #wine-hq perhaps?
[07:09] <dr_willis> I imagine theres several google hits on wine + itunes
[07:09] <intelikey> /join #winehq
[07:10] <intelikey> or is it -hq
[07:10] <intelikey> ???
[07:10] <DebianServerUser> :( I restarted samba, tried to connect to ip, same deal, can see folder public but can't acces
[07:10] <arun> is there an equivalent to parallels for ubuntu
[07:11] <dr_willis> at least you can see it now DebianServerUser
[07:11] <dr_willis> arun,  there are several virtual-machine toolks out for linux.
[07:11] <dr_willis> vmware, virtualbox, qemu
[07:11] <intelikey> bryan just find and install.    i never used kpackage so i can't guide you there.
[07:11] <arun> dr_willis: which do you recommend?
[07:11] <dr_willis> arun,  try them all..
[07:11] <dr_willis> use what works best for you
[07:12] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis dr_willis, thats a negative, in windows networking still have to manually connect ot it via run//192.168.1.108
[07:12] <dr_willis> I USE vmware mainly
[07:12] <intelikey> bryan adept has a search feature   i assume kpackage does too
[07:12] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis wins isn't working
[07:12] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  check your workgroups?
[07:12] <bryan> what do you recommend
[07:12] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  i never have had tomess with wins. :)
[07:12] <arun> dr_willis: can i download vmware using adept?
[07:12] <intelikey> bryan what ever you like.
[07:12] <^V^> bryan: just stick with adept
[07:13] <intelikey> i use the command line.   apt-get install blah    but what ever likes you most
[07:13] <DebianServerUser> WTF? I just opened /etc/samba.conf and its the same as last time....hold on
[07:13] <^V^> until you get confortable enough with the commandline
[07:13] <intelikey> you don't get that by staying away from it tho
[07:13] <intelikey> :)
[07:13] <arun> dr_willis: what should i install? vmware player?
[07:14] <^V^> :) yes, but start with the basics first
[07:14] <^V^> cd ls, etc
[07:14] <intelikey> !cli
[07:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:14] <dr_willis> arun,  i alway  get vmware SERVER
[07:14] <bryan> ok using adept my file in on desktop now what?
[07:14] <DebianServerUser> nvm screwed up saving it...stupid CLI
[07:15] <^V^> bryan: what do you mean by file is on desktop? what are you trying to install?
[07:15] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis it works ;)
[07:15] <arun> dr_willis: where exactly do i get that from
[07:15] <bryan> nexuiz game
[07:15] <^V^> search for nexuiz in adept
[07:15] <intelikey> yeah cp rm mkdir chmod and the like... the basics     oh and iptables modprobe and dpkg     but lets not forget to pipe all that through  | grep blah | less  so we can read it.
[07:15] <bryan> I downloaded on n saved on desktop
[07:16] <^V^> bryan: you will find a lot of software you might need already in the ubuntu repositories
[07:16] <^V^> so you won't need to manually download it in most cases
[07:16] <arun> !qemu
[07:16] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:17] <intelikey> !repos | bryan
[07:17] <ubotu> bryan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:18] <bryan> adept show 4 files on bottom now what do I do
[07:18] <^V^> take nexuiz
[07:18] <^V^> and it should install all dependencies for you
[07:18] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis still can't see under network, but I can now open public HOWEVER i can't write anything to it :( how dumb
[07:18] <allan__> Kubuntu is too heavy for my laptop.. how can I make it faster?
[07:19] <^V^> allan__: heavy as in space or heavy as in performance?
[07:19] <bryan> it show not installed
[07:19] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,    you are using my Exact same samba config?
[07:19] <^V^> bryan: pick it for install
[07:19] <allan__> heavy as in it always hangs
[07:19] <^V^> allan__: that is not normal
[07:19] <xkpablo> yep
[07:19] <^V^> what do you mean by hangs? keyboard or mouse works?
[07:20] <allan__> things work but whenever I open too many apps, kubuntu freezes
[07:20] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis, aside from changing my workgroup and path and commenting out homes and deleting printers and prting yes
[07:20] <dr_willis> that sounds like a X driver issue.
[07:20] <DebianServerUser> wonderful
[07:20] <dr_willis> make some files in your Public share - seeif you can see them.
[07:20] <DebianServerUser> k
[07:21] <dr_willis> if you cant Write to that dir.. its proberly a permission issue on the dir.
[07:21] <^V^> allan__: can you give an example of what too many apps is?
[07:22] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis, nope I can create files, just saved a test.txt AND can see it in windows
[07:22] <allan__> sorry if I did not explain it well.. my laptop hangs whenever I have konqueror, amarok, adept, kerry, kopete, opera etc running
[07:22] <DebianServerUser> I did that on the serv er
[07:22] <allan__> most especially whenenever amarok's osd comes out
[07:22] <allan__> i think it's too heavy for me processors
[07:22] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  but the client cant write to the share?
[07:22] <allan__> I mean, processor without an "s"
[07:22] <^V^> maybe it's amarok? have you tried running for a while without amarok?
[07:22] <DebianServerUser> thats correct
[07:22] <^V^> allan__: what system specs?
[07:22] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis I need permissiosn to delete test.txt though
[07:23] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  sounds like a permission issue on the Public dir to me.. but could be some other little issue
[07:23] <allan__> 512mb ram.. 1.5 ghz intel celeron M
[07:23] <^V^> I think that  should be fine
[07:23] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  so from windows.. you can access the Linux Public share.. and  Make a file - but not delete it?
[07:23] <allan__> you think my hardware is enough?
[07:23] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis I need permissions to delete text.txt on windows box too
[07:24] <michele> help guys!!! if im connected to te net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:24] <^V^> allan__: how long does it take to hang usually?
[07:24] <allan__> before, it was hanging every after about 30 mins
[07:24] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis, negative, I can create files w/o permissions on public ON THE UBUNTU SERVER VIA CLI but can't delete it without sudo
[07:24] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis all I can do on the windows box is read...no write what soever
[07:25] <allan__> when I turned of amarok's OSD, it hanged after about an hour. maybe because I opened adept
[07:25] <^V^> allan__: what graphics card?
[07:25] <allan__> it's a generic intel graphics card
[07:25] <^V^> are you running 3d desktop?
[07:26] <allan__> no
[07:26] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  good luck. its bed time for me..
[07:26] <michele> help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:26] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis thank you so muc hfor you help drj
[07:26] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  you may want to check out that 'fusesmb' stuff also. :) its handy
[07:26] <^V^> allan__: how do you know the system hangs?
[07:26] <DebianServerUser> thanks alot!!! imma go read that
[07:27] <arun> dr_willis: is vmware server fast? what is the lag time like? can i run any windows application?
[07:27] <allan__> I can't move the mouse pointer
[07:27] <^V^> allan__: keyboard work?
[07:27] <^V^> applications/music continues to play?
[07:28] <allan__> they stop
[07:28] <allan__> keyboard shortcuts dont work
[07:28] <allan__> sometimes, things work after a wait.. but it takes more than 5 mins for things to be in normal condition again
[07:29] <^V^> so any animations and music stops?
[07:29] <allan__> the screen freezes
[07:29] <arun> dr_willis: also, is it easy to set up windows using vmware? can i share files between windows (vmware) and linux? if i am already running a dual boot, can i run my existing windows installation through vmware?
[07:29] <^V^> allan__: so it can resume working after a while? always the case?
[07:29] <allan__> it's always the case
[07:29] <michele> Kubuntu help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:30] <^V^> I mean, can it always resume after a while?
[07:30] <allan__> but most of the time, I don't wait.. I just force power off
[07:30] <^V^> okay
[07:30] <^V^> doesn't sound like a complete 'hang' then
[07:30] <allan__> yeah.. maybe, it's more of a 'lag'
[07:30] <^V^> do you notice if you have any harddisk activity?
[07:30] <Armadillio> hey guys how can i make my clock in the corner say something like "2:20 PM" because I'm not liking the military time and want the other kind of time to show up
[07:30] <^V^> during the hang?
[07:30] <allan__> none
[07:31] <^V^> Armadillio: right-click and adjust date time format
[07:31] <^V^> on clock that is
[07:32] <michele> Kubuntu help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:32] <allan__> is there a way for me to make kde faster without using pure KDE?
[07:32] <^V^> allan__: I don't think that is necessarily a speed problem
[07:32] <^V^> It certainly shouldn't hang like that, but feel sluggish the whole time
[07:33] <allan__> so what can I do to avoid the lag?
[07:33] <^V^> allan__: I don't think its necessarily lag either
[07:33] <allan__> ohh.. so what could it be?
[07:33] <^V^> When it hangs,, does your CPU activity light show anything?
[07:33] <allan__> is it a ram issue?
[07:33] <allan__> I'm using a laptop
[07:34] <^V^> No activity light?
[07:34] <allan__> I don't notice the cpu light
[07:34] <^V^> Are you running it from battery?
[07:34] <allan__> is that light you are referring to, the blinking LED?
[07:35] <allan__> I am using a battery but my laptop is plugged
[07:35] <^V^> possibly, there might be one for harddisk and one for cpu
[07:35] <allan__> right now, only one LED is lit
[07:36] <allan__> the symbol of the LED is a cylinder but I do not know what it means
[07:36] <^V^> allan__: type `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[07:36] <ubunturos> allan__: that probably is that of your hdd
[07:36] <^V^> allan__: that means harddisk
[07:36] <^V^> what does it say for cpu speed?
[07:37] <allan__> cpu MHz         : 1492.775
[07:37] <sumigamer> guys amarok cant play an Mp3....it says no Mp3 support is present, and then it hangs. whats the deal???
[07:37] <allan__> model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.50GHz
[07:37] <purpleposeidon> !mp3
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <^V^> okay
[07:37] <michele> sumigamer, you need to use adept manager to download the mp3 codecs for amarok
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> ATFB!
[07:39] <sumigamer> michele, how do I find the codecs in adept??
[07:39] <sumigamer> but firsts, amarok is still freezed, how do i quit it??
[07:40] <michele> when that error appears I think it tells you the name. if you download vlc player it seems to bring down heaps of codecs that amarok can use
[07:40] <sumigamer> yeah but how do I quit this amarok?
[07:40] <michele> when it freezes just wait a while and you should get the option to terminate it
[07:41] <sumigamer> i didnt get any option
[07:41] <allan__> what is vanilla kde?  is it a fast kde?
[07:41] <^V^> sumigamer: did you click on the cross to close?
[07:41] <michele> it takes a couple of minutes for an option box to appear
[07:42] <sumigamer> the whole window has greyed out. i clicked on the cross and even from the tray but nothing happened
[07:42] <^V^> allan__: I seriously don't think it is a KDE issue
[07:42] <^V^> sumigamer: `killall amarok`
[07:42] <michele> unplug the pc !
[07:42] <^V^> allan__: you can try install xubuntu-desktop and see if it doesn't hang there
[07:43] <allan__> Actually, xubuntu works well for me
[07:43] <^V^> It should be faster than kde
[07:43] <^V^> but I think it could be some hardware/driver issue
[07:43] <allan__> I just prefer KDE that's why I am looking for ways to making kde faster
[07:43] <^V^> allan__: is KDE reasonably responsive during normal use?
[07:44] <aly> I need some help
[07:44] <allan__> it is
[07:44] <^V^> so it doesn't look like a speed issue then
[07:44] <allan__> right now, it's reasonably fast
[07:44] <allan__> what can I do, then?
[07:44] <^V^> What do you do right before it crashes?
[07:44] <aly> tools/convconf.c:99: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function strchr
[07:45] <aly> i am just trying to compile a psybnc
[07:45] <^V^> aly: do you get any compiler errors?
[07:45] <morph_> hailz
[07:46] <aly> dont think so
[07:46] <morph_> anyone get the iPhone here :)
[07:46] <^V^> aly: so what is the problem then?
[07:46] <allan__> last time, my laptop was freezing whenever amarok's osd comes out
[07:46] <^V^> allan__: so even 5 minutes after you start the system and load amarok?
[07:46] <aly> it wont compile
[07:46] <aly> you want me to paste you the whole thing?
[07:46] <^V^> aly: pastebin please
[07:47] <morph_> just installed 7.10 tribe 2
[07:47] <morph_> running good
[07:47] <aly> done
[07:47] <allan__> at first, whenever the OSD comes out, there is no problem, but after about 30 mins, then when the osd pops, my laptop freezes
[07:47] <^V^> allan__: BTW, what version of kubuntu do you use?
[07:47] <morph_> wonder if i should mess with beryl
[07:48] <allan__> feisty
[07:48] <^V^> allan__: did you upgrade?
[07:48] <aly> ^V^: pasted it
[07:48] <michele> sorry guys ... kubuntu help!! easy one, konversation works but not konqeror, is there somewhere I should configure it
[07:48] <allan__> nope.. it's a clean feisty install
[07:48] <^V^> aly: url?
[07:48] <allan__> I reformatted for feisty
[07:48] <^V^> allan__: I was wondering if edgy worked okay for you?
[07:48] <aly> ^V^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27912/
[07:49] <allan__> it was okay
[07:50] <morph_> is there a good mac style dock for kubuntu?
[07:50] <fildo> !ntp
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <^V^> allan__: before a crash, do you puyt a lot of strain on the system or is it mostly idle?
[07:50] <fildo> !time
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <morph_> i tried kiba dock but it was laggy
[07:51] <allan__> It freezes whenever I open something new like whenever I install an app
[07:51] <aly> ^V^: Did you get the link ?
[07:51] <allan__> not when its idle
[07:51] <^V^> aly: have you compiled any C code before?
[07:51] <aly> ^V^: Not really i am just trying to follow the README file
[07:52] <^V^> aly: can you type `gcc --version` in the shell?
[07:52] <aly> you want me to paste the reply in pastebin ^V^?
[07:52] <^V^> does it say a version?
[07:53] <aly> ^V^: gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)
[07:54] <^V^> aly: have you tried to read http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/bnc/ ?
[07:54] <aly> thats exactly what im following
[07:54] <aly> make menuconfig is what i typed
[07:54] <^V^> aly: did you install ncurses?
[07:54] <aly> ncurses
[07:55] <aly> whats that ?
[07:55] <^V^> allan__: so if you let the PC just sit there idling, will it hang?
[07:55] <aly> where do i get that from
[07:55] <allan__> it will not
[07:56] <^V^> aly: try `sudo apt-get install ncurses`
[07:56] <^V^> allan__: if you open all those apps and not use the PC for a while, will it hang?
[07:56] <allan__> it wont
[07:57] <allan__> only if I do so many activities
[07:57] <aly> Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:57] <allan__> I think, I need lighter software to run on this laptop
[07:57] <^V^> allan__: I told you, KDE shouldn't cause it to hang at all
[07:58] <^V^> aly: can you look in adept for ncurses?
[07:58] <aly> i can try
[07:58] <allan__> what can I do to avoid the freezing, ^V^
[07:59] <^V^> allan__: that's what I'm trying to figure out :)
[07:59] <seven>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? how do i fix this again
[08:00] <^V^> allan__: try to reboot and change your boot options to include "noacpi acpi=off noapic nolapic" at the end (without quotes)
[08:01] <allan__> ^V^, in my laptop, the usb does not work without me using irqpoll as a boot option.. could it be a factor?
[08:01] <^V^> allan__: possibly
[08:01] <^V^> did you have to do that in edgy also?
[08:01] <allan__> yes
[08:01] <seven>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? how do i fix this again
[08:02] <allan__> in all distros that I have tried, I needed irqpoll
[08:02] <^V^> allan__: can you try those options?
[08:02] <^V^> aly: try to install ncurses-bin
[08:03] <allan__> okay.. I just edited my menu.lst.. I'm rebooting now
[08:03] <allan__> I'm just curious, what do those boot options do?
[08:03] <^V^> allan__: you could havbe made it temporary in the boot at startup
[08:04] <^V^> in the grub menu
[08:04] <^V^> what usb devices?
[08:04] <allan__> I know... it's just easier for me to edit menu.lst because its just copy paste
[08:05] <allan__> my laptop does not detect any usb device without irqpoll
[08:05] <^V^> what devices you use though?
[08:05] <allan__> scanner, flash drive, printer, usb mouse
[08:06] <allan__> right now, no usb device is plugged so the usb devices are not the reason for the freeze
[08:06] <^V^> not even mouse?
[08:06] <aly> ^V^: For somereason it was the c++ compiler  reinstalled it and the bnc worked like a charm thanks alot !
[08:07] <sumigamer> whenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??
[08:07] <^V^> aly: what do you mean exactly?
[08:07] <aly> the c++ compiler was messed up i think  downloaded the newer version of it and make menuconfig worked.
[08:08] <sumigamer> whenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??
[08:08] <^V^> aly: what do you mean you downloaded a new version? from the repositories?
[08:08] <aly> aly@AMistry:~/psybnc$ sudo apt-get install g++-3.4
[08:08] <aly> g++ i guess
[08:08] <^V^> aly: that is an older version actually
[08:08] <aly> is it
[08:09] <evsophomore2009> anyone good with Firefox?
[08:09] <aly> well it worked heh
[08:09] <sumigamer> whenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??
[08:09] <^V^> try `sudo apt-get install build-essential`
[08:09] <^V^> sumigamer: no need to keep asking, someone might know and let you know the answer
[08:10] <^V^> sumigamer: you m ight also want to try install build-essential
[08:10] <aly> how do i view the background services running i forgot the command for it
[08:10] <^V^> ps?
[08:11] <aly> thats it !
[08:11] <^V^> !ps
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <aly> thanks ^V^
[08:11] <evsophomore2009> Firefox Problems...Can anyone Help?
[08:12] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: what are the problems?
[08:12] <^V^> evsophomore2009: it would help if you stated what they are...we are not mind readers
[08:12] <evsophomore2009> sorry hehe
[08:12] <evsophomore2009> anyways, when i go to a website other than google it shutsdown automatically
[08:12] <evsophomore2009> i get this message when i open it using the Terminal
[08:12] <^V^> evsophomore2009: any website or one in particular?
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>   (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[08:13] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: have you tried it in safe mode yet?
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> i know Pastebin
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> no how do i run it in safemode?
[08:13] <^V^> evsophomore2009: pastebin please!!!
[08:14] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: use firefox -safe-mode
[08:14] <sumigamer> i have downloaded that 9MB firefox archive from the official website and unpacked it, but what next??
[08:14] <evsophomore2009> Still closes
[08:15] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: alright, we could assume that it is not an extentsion causing the problems
[08:15] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: is it the version in the repos?
[08:15] <evsophomore2009> So could you kinda sorta maybe help me out? I looove firefox, but unfortunally it closes way to much to use
[08:15] <^V^> sumigamer: you don't need to download firefox like that, check adept and search for firefox
[08:15] <^V^> evsophomore2009: what extensions have you got installed?
[08:16] <evsophomore2009> How do i check the extensions that i have installed
[08:16] <^V^> tools->addons
[08:17] <sumigamer> ^V^, will I get the latest firefox if I search adept?/
[08:17] <^V^> sumigamer: you will get the latest ubuntu packaged version
[08:17] <evsophomore2009> there isnt any Extensions
[08:18] <arun> how do i open files from my ubuntu in windows/vmware? if i create a file using windows/vmware, where can i save it?
[08:18] <sumigamer> when i searched for thunderbird, i got the 1.5 version. People tell me that you should compile from source to get the latest version.
[08:18] <arun> if i am online on linux, will i be online using windows/vmware as well?
[08:19] <^V^> sumigamer: don't bother unless you *really* need the latest
[08:19] <sumigamer> some extensions work only on the latest...
[08:19] <evsophomore2009> ^V^: I dont have any Extions installed
[08:20] <^V^> evsophomore2009: so you open google and it doesn't crash?
[08:20] <evsophomore2009> nope
[08:20] <^V^> what about ubuntu.com?
[08:21] <evsophomore2009> Nope that works
[08:21] <^V^> okay
[08:21] <sumigamer> adept doesnt tell me which version I am installing....
[08:21] <^V^> so its not just any page that causes a crash
[08:22] <^V^> sumigamer: it should if you expand the program name
[08:22] <evsophomore2009> no mainly a page with Flash//Video//Media
[08:22] <sumigamer> ^V^, it doesnt
[08:22] <^V^> evsophomore2009: in firefox go to about:plugins
[08:22] <evsophomore2009> kay done
[08:23] <^V^> evsophomore2009: pastebin the file?
[08:24] <arun> anyone here use vmware?
[08:24] <intelikey> my bash is broke.
[08:24] <^V^> sumigamer: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion, it might help
[08:24] <intelikey> my bash hurts !
[08:24] <neonlinux> intelikey: u bashed it too hard??
[08:25] <intelikey> neonlinux i guess so....   copy and paste into a console breaks lines in funny way and doesn't accept the whole paste
[08:25] <^V^> evsophomore2009: I have to go, but try uninstall flash plugins and any others and see if firefox still crashes
[08:25] <evsophomore2009> okay
[08:25] <evsophomore2009> thanks for your time
[08:26] <neonlinux> is this plain text... try from a kwrite
[08:26] <michele> Kubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!
[08:26] <sumigamer> when i try to configure superkaramba, it says that it cant find X includes, and to check the installation and the correct paths
[08:26] <fdoving> sumigamer: you need the pakcage 'xorg-dev'
[08:27] <evsophomore2009> Can Anyone Help Me Out With My Firefox Problem'
[08:27] <intelikey> i should be able to; cat file   copy and paste the content into a console  but this file breaks it...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37809
[08:27] <arun> evsophomore2009: what's the problem
[08:28] <aly> where do i get the osx theme "engage" from ubuntu from?
[08:29] <neonlinux> intelikey: is that what your pasting into ur console?
[08:29] <michele> rossco, do you know how to setup konqueror, im stuck
[08:29] <evsophomore2009> arun: when i open any website with Media//Flash//VIdoes ect... it closes and gives me this error
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> I KNOW PASTEBIN DOSENT WORK!
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>   (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: run firefox from terminal... that may give more info when running
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | evsophomore2009
[08:31] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> i knoooow
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> it dosent work Daisuke_ldo
[08:32] <michele> Kubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> umm yeah so thats what i get when i open it with the terminal
[08:32] <crdlb> evsophomore2009, yes it does
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it works just fine
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> and it not working is NOT an excuse for flooding the channel
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> not on my computer because im having problems if anyone wouild read
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> Daisuke_ldo: okay w/e dont get an attitude with me
[08:33] <crdlb> evsophomore2009, try a different browser
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> use konqueror then.
[08:33] <crdlb> but don't ever paste in the channel
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> okay w/e not my problem
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, yes it IS your problem, you're the one that did it.
[08:34] <michele> calm down boys, we're on the same side
[08:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but moving on...
[08:34] <evsophomore2009> Neonlinux: thats the error i get when i open it from the terminal
[08:35] <janhans> Zkoum,co to dl,tak sory
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> is #ubuntu-effects gone?
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> nm
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> (typo in channel list I guess)
[08:35] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ati graphics card?
[08:35] <janhans> I not englich
[08:36] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: so my graphics card could be the problem why firefox closes for no reason?
[08:36] <neonlinux> some posts online are saying thay you may need to disable the compisite extension in your xorg.conf...
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> oooh...Yeah about that, a long time ago before firefox, someone told me to do that and i had to get a new computer
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> I completely screwed it over
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> So i really dont wanna screw with xorg.config
[08:38] <neonlinux> there is a way to do it without screwing it over
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> Neonlinux: well if you know exactly what your doing (Not saying your dumb) but i think you get me where im kinda scared
[08:41] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: lol.. i never used to know what i was doing.. i just had a hack at it.. if it broke.. i re-installed and remembered not to do it again.. just the way i learnt stuff.. anyway.. i have to do this in my xorg file and it works..
[08:41] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: easiest way is to first back up ur config file
[08:42] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: so for example "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/ur-user"
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> wow confusing
[08:43] <neonlinux> that way if it doesnt work.. all you have to do to make it right again is "sudo cp /home/ur-user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"
[08:43] <neonlinux> all thats doing is copying the file
[08:44] <neonlinux> basically.. breaking down the command its copy /the/file/ur/copying.conf /to/where/u/want/it/copied/to
[08:44] <evsophomore2009> it didnt work
[08:44] <neonlinux> what error?
[08:45] <evsophomore2009> No such file or directory
[08:45] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: what exactly did u type?
[08:45] <evsophomore2009> sudo cp /home/ur-user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[08:46] <neonlinux> first u want to make a back up.. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/ur-username/
[08:47] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: are u using the firefox from the repos?
[08:47] <evsophomore2009> what? im lost...firefox from the repos/>
[08:47] <evsophomore2009> *repos?
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> Just installed the second release of Gutsy....... dude serious speed improvements over Feisty
[08:47] <neonlinux> how did u install firefox?
[08:47] <arun> evsophomore2009: from where did you install firefox
[08:48] <arun> anyone here use vmware?
[08:48] <neonlinux> arun: havent in a while
[08:48] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: how much faster?
[08:49] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: what kernel version?
[08:49] <arun> neonlinux: would you mind answering some of my questions regd. vmware server?
[08:50] <neonlinux> arun: it was ages ago.. but ill see what i can do
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: well ktorrent now hits 500K when the best before was 120k, large file transfers are up around 36MB/s were before I was hard up getting 9MB/s
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: 2.6.22
[08:51] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: what network card do u ahve?
[08:51] <evsophomore2009> Arun: umm apt-get
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: rtl8139
[08:51] <arun> neonlinux: how do i open files from my ubuntu in windows/vmware? if i create a file using windows/vmware, where can i save it?
[08:51] <arun> neonlinux: if i am online on linux, will i be online using windows/vmware as well?
[08:51] <michele> Kubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!
[08:52] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: so u used apt-get to install firefox?
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: the transfers are disk transfers from my internal to an external usb2 backup unit
[08:52] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: ok.. i have 8169.. has issues. .waiting for proper driver support
[08:52] <evsophomore2009> yes i did
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: still stuffs up my resolution though and I have to run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver thing
[08:53] <arun> how do i get kubuntu to not smooth console-type fonts
[08:53] <neonlinux> arun: the online part.. u should be... it should see the nic as connected.. as for transfering files... make a network share using samba and then in the virtual machine save it to the share
[08:53] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... flash plugins installed?
[08:54] <arun> neonlinux: how do i make a network share using samba?
[08:54] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: ok... driver support?
[08:54] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: how do i find out? on firefox on the URL bar i type in About:plugins and every single plugin is installed
[08:54] <neonlinux> arun: in konqueror u should be able to right click on a directory and enable sharing
[08:55] <arun> neonlinux: alright, so how do i navigate to that directory from windows/vmware?
[08:55] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. sounds like plugins are installed... im searching around atm.. so far it seems that u need to add the line to xorg.conf
[08:55] <abonnema> Hi all
[08:55] <neonlinux> arun: brows the network
[08:56] <neonlinux> arun: look for your linux box
[08:56] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: okay whenever you find out and are ready to help me with that process just let me know :0
[08:56] <evsophomore2009> * :)
[08:56] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok :)
[08:57] <arun> neonlinux: alright, thanks :) what is the lag like in vmware? is it considerably slower than running windows independently/
[08:57] <arun> neonlinux: will i be able to run apps like photoshop at good speeds?
[08:59] <neonlinux> arun: i used it ages ago (back in the days when an athlon 750 and 256 mb of ram was the bomb.. it was sluggish... these days i would imagine that its alot better.. .there is also another vm app called parallels.. that works pretty nicely
[08:59] <hero> what version of ubuntu is feisty?
[08:59] <evsophomore2009> 7.06 i believe
[08:59] <abonnema> 7.04
[08:59] <niranj> 704
[08:59] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7760.html sound similar?
[09:00] <evsophomore2009> 7.04 thats it
[09:00] <hero> thank you
[09:00] <abonnema> why?
[09:01] <evsophomore2009> Yep sure does
[09:01] <evsophomore2009> So is it the xorg-config?
[09:02] <michele> cud someone please answer a simple question about konqueror.....
[09:02] <evsophomore2009> Michele: maybe i can help
[09:03] <arun> neonlinux: isn't parallels only for os x?
[09:03] <michele> thanks, konversation works, but konqueror can't find servers
[09:03] <neonlinux> arun: there is a version for linux... im holding out for parallels 3 for linux.. im hoping for directx support
[09:04] <abonnema> Michele: you are in arn't you?
[09:04] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: sounds like it
[09:04] <evsophomore2009> Okay well show me what to do. :)
[09:04] <michele> in sydney
[09:04] <evsophomore2009> Please
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: yeah, driver support is fine
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: all my plugin stuff works
[09:05] <arun> neonlinux: costs $50
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: to be honest Im finding the experience with Gutsy better than Feisty/Edgy
[09:05] <abonnema> Michele: no i meant: what do you mean, can't find servers: you are in, aren't you?
[09:05] <michele> whats ar'nt
[09:05] <arun> neonlinux: also, will i be able to use external hard drives that work only with windows?
[09:06] <neonlinux> arun: the only sucky part.. it costs... but ill be able to finally nuke my windows partition and run directx games in linux :)
[09:06] <abonnema> Michele: a typo: aren't or are not
[09:06] <michele> oh ok, i get "Could not connect to host"
[09:06] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: uve almost convinded me to install it :)
[09:06] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... whats ur user name on ur system?
[09:06] <abonnema> michele: are you working from a different machine now?
[09:07] <evsophomore2009> mike
[09:07] <tenerifedave> hello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: the extra speed is whats amazing me, almost like they fixed a serious IO bug thats been hanging around
[09:07] <abonnema> michele: is your internet connection working with your browser?
[09:07] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... type the following "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/mike/
[09:07] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: yay :)
[09:07] <evsophomore2009> kay umm i think it worked
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: addint java/flash/codecs was a total no brainer
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> adding*
[09:08] <michele> i've got a new kubuntu install with dial up. kppp worked fine, konvesation works. konqeror can't find the internet port i think ?
[09:08] <arun> neonlinux: also, will i be able to use external hard drives that work only with windows? also, say i'm running photoshop, will the temp files be stored in the vmware directory or in swap?
[09:08] <evsophomore2009> it kinda just asked for my password, and a new line opend...like it was ready for a new command
[09:08] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: check by going to your home folder and making sure the file is there
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> just have to figure ut how I get the channels to view as tabs in Konversation
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> out*
[09:09] <abonnema> Michele: It sounds like your internet connection is not working: are you working from your new installation now?
[09:09] <neonlinux> arun: i think they would be able to be used.. and im not sure about photoshop
[09:09] <evsophomore2009> xorg-config is there, so yep it worked
[09:09] <michele> im using the machine where konversation works, but not konqueror
[09:09] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: xorg-config or xorg.conf?
[09:10] <evsophomore2009> xorg.conig
[09:10] <michele> yes, the new installation
[09:10] <^V^> michele: does firefox work?
[09:10] <arun> neonlinux: thank you so much for all your help
[09:10] <abonnema> Michele: if Konversation works and Konqueror does not work, than internet works, but your installation can not find the DSN.
[09:11] <neonlinux> arun: sorry i cant be more helpful.. it has been ages
[09:11] <abonnema> Michele: look into your internet config and find out whether you filled in the name server.
[09:11] <michele> im just downloading firefox with adept manager, then will try it
[09:11] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <arun> neonlinux: no, it's alright.. vmware server is almost downloaded, will install it now
[09:11] <michele> where do i find that
[09:11] <abonnema> Michele: If Konqueror does not work, neither will firefox.
[09:11] <neonlinux> arun: cool.... Linux_Galore: gonna start downloading gutsy
[09:12] <evsophomore2009> G Get Help            ^O WriteOut            ^R Read File           ^Y Prev Page           ^K Cut Text            ^C Cur Pos
[09:12] <evsophomore2009> ^X Exit                ^J Justify             ^W Where Is            ^V Next Page           ^U UnCut Text          ^T To Spell
[09:12] <arun> what animal is gutsy
[09:12] <abonnema> Michele: however, if you are using adept_manager successfully, I don't know what the problem is.
[09:12] <evsophomore2009> Thats what i got
[09:12] <^V^> gibbon
[09:12] <arun> ah
[09:12] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: there should be text in the file
[09:12] <arun> is that some sort of primate?
[09:12] <tenerifedave> hello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?
[09:12] <^V^> I believe so
[09:13] <^V^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
[09:13] <evsophomore2009> umm theres alot of text
[09:13] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. press ctrl+x
[09:13] <evsophomore2009> kay done
[09:13] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. you should now be back at the command line
[09:13] <michele> i looked all through the konqeror configuration but cudn't find anything. maybe konqueror can't work with dial up?
[09:13] <evsophomore2009> yep i am
[09:14] <hero> michele: why wouldn't it?
[09:14] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. thats the text editor called nano.. ctrl+x allows you to exit the program.. when you make changes to the file it will ask if you want to save before exiting... thats just extra info so you know whats going on.. ok..
[09:15] <evsophomore2009> Kay
[09:15] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: type sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: and once in there go right to the bottom of the page by pressing page down
[09:15] <michele> hero, thats a very good question
[09:15] <downstairs>  /join #cyprus
[09:15] <hero> i figure if you have a ppp link up, it should work
[09:15] <evsophomore2009> Command not found
[09:16] <hero> but it does sound puzzling
[09:16] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: opps.. i meant sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <abonnema> Michele: did you try entering a direct ip-address? I suspect you have not configured a name server for your ISP connection
[09:16] <michele> do yo mean a direct ip address for my isp?
[09:16] <^V^> michele: try go to 64.233.187.99
[09:17] <hero> for anything
[09:17] <evsophomore2009> Okay im confused
[09:17] <^V^> that's google.com
[09:17] <evsophomore2009> im back at the same screen i was at before you told me CTRL+X
[09:17] <abonnema> Michele: try entering: http://209.132.177.50/ into konqueror (thats the IP address for www.redhat.com
[09:17] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: yep... now go right down to the bottom of the file by pressing page down key
[09:17] <evsophomore2009> kay im at the bottem
[09:18] <evsophomore2009> it says End Section
[09:18] <michele> ok, where do i find the place to enter it ?
[09:18] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. now the next stuff you need to type is case sensitive
[09:18] <^V^> wherever you enter the website address
[09:18] <evsophomore2009> okay
[09:18] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: press enter to go to a new line
[09:18] <abonnema> Michele: just click on the blue http-address that I entered, Konqueror should open automatically
[09:19] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: wait, it wont let me go to a new line
[09:19] <evsophomore2009> it just goes down one line, but not a new command line thing
[09:19] <abonnema> Michele: if this works and entering www.redhat.com does not work, than its definitely the nameserver
[09:20] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: thats right... ur text cursor should be on a blank line
[09:20] <michele> i got Could not connect to host http://209.132.177.50/
[09:20] <evsophomore2009> oh okay done
[09:21] <michele> where should i enter the name server
[09:21] <abonnema> MIchele: weird, I clicked on both www.redhat.com and http://209.132.177.50/ and both appeared as the same screen.
[09:21] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. so the last line of text should say EndSection.. then a blank line.. then the line your text cursor is on right?
[09:21] <michele> oh oh !
[09:21] <evsophomore2009> yep
[09:21] <abonnema> Michele: as your Konversation works, then at least a direct IP address in your browser should also work.
[09:22] <abonnema> Michele: What error message did you get?
[09:22] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. next thing i msg type exactly... for the spaces press the tab key
[09:22] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: Section "Extensions"
[09:23] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: case sensitive
[09:23] <evsophomore2009> wait, so type in Extensions or Section "Ectensions"
[09:23] <michele> guess what.... i downloaded firefox and it works
[09:23] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: dont write the case senstitve bit..
[09:23] <abonnema> Michele: Okee,
[09:24] <michele> ;-)  :-)
[09:24] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: exactly as i wrote it..... Section "Extensions"
[09:24] <evsophomore2009> than press TAB?
[09:25] <michele> maybe somewhere in the lower machinery of konqueror it can't find the net through kppp ?
[09:26] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: hang on a sec.. that one actually uses a space.. the tabs are for the next line... so it will be...... Section<SPACEBAR>"Extensions"
[09:26] <abonnema> Michele: if firefox works, just use it. I suspect that konqueror needs configuration
[09:26] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: after typing.... Section "Extensions" press enter to go to a new line
[09:26] <michele> ok i will, thanks !
[09:26] <evsophomore2009> kay done with that
[09:27] <abonnema> MIchele: okee, see ya
[09:27] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. on this new line the spaces are tabs.. type the following
[09:27] <michele> abonnema, btw, where r u ?
[09:27] <abonnema> Michele: the netherlands
[09:28] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009:        Option      "Composite"      "Disable"
[09:28] <michele> im sydney. cheers and thanks
[09:28] <abonnema> Michele: Must be late over there?
[09:28] <abonnema> Michele: is 9:30 in the morning here
[09:29] <michele> its 17:23, we're just having a beer
[09:29] <evsophomore2009> okay so on one line
[09:29] <michele> and a wine
[09:29] <abonnema> MIchele: well, enjoy, and see ya later.
[09:29] <evsophomore2009> Section "Extensions"
[09:29] <evsophomore2009>         Option      "Composite"      "Disable"
[09:29] <michele> cya
[09:29] <evsophomore2009> just like that in the term right?
[09:29] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: yep.. thats right.. now press enter to go to a new line
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> kay
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> done
[09:30] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: now this line uses the space bar for spaces
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> okay
[09:30] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: type the following
[09:30] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: EndSection
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> one word?
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: just looked at the line in my config.. tehre is no spaces.. .my bad
[09:31] <neonlinux> yep.. one word
[09:31] <vbgunz> is there a way to seperate the applications that shipped with Kubuntu and those that I installed? I mean, it's been quite a while and I know here and there I've downloaded some cli apps I probably don't use much... is there a way to seperate everything that shipped with Kubuntu and everything I installed manually?
[09:31] <evsophomore2009> Wait...there are no spaces?
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... now after typing... EndSection press enter
[09:31] <vbgunz> I'd like to get into maintenance mode :)
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: no saces
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: no spaces
[09:32] <evsophomore2009> kay i typed EndSection
[09:32] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... now after typing... EndSection press enter
[09:32] <neonlinux> for a new line
[09:32] <evsophomore2009> kay done
[09:33] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: cool.. now press ctrl+x
[09:33] <evsophomore2009> yes or no
[09:33] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: its asking if you want to save changes... yes
[09:33] <evsophomore2009> kay now what
[09:33] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: so it saved and your now at the command line?
[09:34] <evsophomore2009> no im still at the thiny] 
[09:34] <evsophomore2009> *thingy
[09:35] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: u pressed ctrl+x.. then yes.. it will now be asking what you would like to call the file... press enter
[09:35] <killgore> Hi, there is a typo in the headline of the latest announcement on www.kubuntu.org
[09:36] <killgore> it  say "Tride 2 CD Released" should be "Tribe 2 CD Released" ?
[09:36] <evsophomore2009> Okay im back at the command line
[09:36] <neonlinux> killgore: you found a bug lol
[09:36] <killgore> I'm so cool
[09:37] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: just on a side note.. did you install the gfx drivers?
[09:37] <evsophomore2009> gfx Drivers??
[09:37] <neonlinux> for ur ati card?
[09:37] <evsophomore2009> never installed it
[09:37] <neonlinux> so ur running the default generic drivers?
[09:38] <evsophomore2009> Sure i guess
[09:38] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: u have an ati card right?
[09:38] <evsophomore2009> How do i find out?
[09:39] <agm_> i am having problems with atheros AR5006EG wifi adapter, cant get it working
[09:39] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: scroll down until you find a section called Section "Device"
[09:41] <evsophomore2009> okay i dont see gfx
[09:43] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: in Section "Device" it should either say nv (nvidia) or ati
[09:48] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: i have to go... to return everything back to the way it was before the changes... exit by pressing ctrl+x and then typing.... sudo cp /home/mike/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[09:51] <arun> neonlinux: vmware is working, installing windows
[09:51] <arun> thanks for all your help
[09:56] <to6eto> hi all
[09:59] <arun> hey to6eto
[10:04] <david__> Buff.
[10:06] <t_maus> is anybody of you a sysop
[10:06] <arun> how do i install smb server
[10:07] <t_maus> apt-get install samba
[10:07] <t_maus> apt-get install samba-common
[10:07] <arun> alright, thanks
[10:07] <t_maus> np
[10:08] <arun> how do i install software on my windows/vmware?
[10:08] <to6eto> wine
[10:08] <arun> can i install from a shared directory using samba
[10:08] <killgore> hobbsee: can you fix the typo "Tride"->"Tribe" on kubuntu.org or tell someone
[10:08] <to6eto> apt-get inatll wine
[10:08] <t_maus> you CAN use samba
[10:08] <arun> to6eto: i dont need wine, i'm running vmware
[10:08] <arun> t_maus: or else?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> killgore: oh dear.  yes.
[10:09] <to6eto> upd, sorry :)
[10:09] <t_maus> if you use vmware-workstation
[10:09] <killgore> Hobbsee: ;)
[10:09] <arun> t_maus: i'm using vmware-server
[10:09] <Hobbsee> killgore: as in, to getting someone else to fix it, i think
[10:09] <t_maus> oh usb stick ?
[10:10] <t_maus> or you can use virtualbox
[10:11] <t_maus> is the same like vmware but 1. ist open source und 2. it has the same level like vmware-workstation
[10:11] <arun> um.. i am running vmware-server.. how do i share folders between my linux and vmware/windows
[10:11] <emko> qucik question how  do i change my resolution to native resolution? i can only go up to 1024X768
[10:12] <t_maus> vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> They should put the new Crystal icon set in Gutsy, I mean its a seriously good update from the old set -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668&forumpage=19
[10:13] <t_maus> @arun i ask google there is no option to share with out a stick with the vmware SERVER version
[10:13] <arun> yes
[10:13] <arun> thanks
[10:14] <t_maus> vmware workstation is able to share
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> nice picture of the cew crystal icon set -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25668&file1=25668-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Crystal+Clear
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> new*
[10:19] <mikkael> is kdewallet only for local security ?
[10:21] <t_maus> yes it seams to be so
[10:21] <t_maus> i dont see there a global support fr security
[10:34] <TrueFX> where is the /etc/rc.d directory in kubuntu?
[10:47] <egolost> hmm.. all the keyboard layouts are missing from my keyboard layouts... anyone have a clue for a solution?
[10:48] <fede> Good morning everybody. i have a problem with kub feisty. Since a pair of days, everytime i connect a usb flash memory, it lets me just see the files, but not delete or add. I tried with sudo konqueror or sudo chmod but even with sudo, it tells me that i havent got enough permissions. what could i do?
[10:49] <icecruncher> ok, can anybody tell me how to change the adress the dhclient is asking to?
[10:50] <arun> awesome, now i can run photoshop from within kubuntu
[10:50] <arun> yay
[10:50] <icecruncher> when I run dhclient eth0, it is trying to get the dhcp from 255.255.255.255, I'd like to change that to my router
[10:53] <mikkael> alt + f2 is supposed to starta launcher, right ?
[11:04] <arun> mikkael: yes
[11:10] <brun0___> hello
[11:10] <brun0___> I've a problem of my screen blinking from time to time
[11:11] <brun0___> on my laptop
[11:11] <brun0___> with a geforce8400
[11:11] <brun0___> and the latest nvidia drivers
[11:11] <_Shade_> hi there
[11:11] <brun0___> is it known ?
[11:12] <_Shade_> how can i select an object which is under another one?
[11:12] <_Shade_> oops i missed the channel sorry :)
[11:14] <Linux_Galore> egolost: keytouch
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: ?? version of kubuntu
[11:16] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: feist
[11:16] <brun0___> feisty
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: heard of people having issues with the 8600/8800  not suprised with the 8400 being a problem as its in the same chip familty
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> family*
[11:17] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: so basically i should wait for the next driver :) ?
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: did you get the driver from nvidia ?
[11:19] <Linux_Galore> ie from their website
[11:20] <Cugel> Dudes, I have a question. I'm looking for a large pic of the Kubuntu logo. Haven't been able to find something suitable yet. Any ideas?
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: is this with Beryl on ?
[11:21] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: no
[11:21] <brun0___> neither compiz ;)
[11:21] <Linux_Galore> aah yeah, they have a link on their wiki to some stuff
[11:21] <Cugel> Hmm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Kubuntu_Logo.svg seems okay, but actually I'd like to replicate http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/84/fc/8cf3_1.JPG
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> Cugel: the ebay one would be easy to copy in Gimp
[11:22] <Cugel> True.
[11:23] <Linux_Galore> Cugel: always look on flickr
[11:23] <Linux_Galore> or google images
[11:23] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: it seems that it is each time the screen refreshes
[11:23] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: almost got gutsy down :)
[11:23] <mikkael> how can i chenge k-menu's button on my panel ?
[11:23] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: not each time, but only when something changes on the screen
[11:23] <eagles0513875> cant wait till tomorrow
[11:23] <eagles0513875> and ill have it downloaded too
[11:24] <Cugel> http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0014/6935/Kubuntu.eps   -- that's what I was looking for.
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[11:24] <r0cks0ul> can i make gxine and totem work at the same time? coz i was having problem with it
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: thats how I got my Nvidia stuff working
[11:24] <kraut> moin
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: they both use the same engine
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: dare say its creating a conflict
[11:25] <r0cks0ul> but why cant i play videos on gxine?
[11:25] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: is it a problem to run this if I have used the nvidia installer (because it's not in the repositories)
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> before i was able to make them work at the same time
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: why would you use a Gnome app ?? kde has heaps of apps to play stuff ie kaffeine/kmplayer
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> i do have mplayer
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> it works great
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> but i want gxine too
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: might want to also look at vlc I use it for mp4 files
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: your problem is both programs are exactly the same video player just different skins
[11:27] <r0cks0ul> really?
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> yes
[11:27] <r0cks0ul> it was working before?!
[11:28] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore: whats the advantage of mp4 files
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: pick one, they are both the same
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: well they play on more portable devices for starters
[11:28] <r0cks0ul> trhe reason i like gxine is that when im on a cube(beryl) it occupies all the 4 workspaces
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> ie 5G ipod
[11:29] <eagles0513875> besides ipods
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: iRiver media players etc use mp4 so do the sony stuff Ive used
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: I have no preference for mp4 Im an xvid fan or even mkv
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> Im just saying I found vlc to play mp4 files better than most media apps
[11:30] <eagles0513875> thats rather interesting cuz i though only ipods used mp4a
[11:31] <brun0____> I tried to remove the DPMS option from monitor
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: theres a kde app to convert xvid to mp4 for ipods
[11:31] <eagles0513875> what is xvid
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: improved open source variant of divx
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> XviD is an open source MPEG-4 video codec. Originally based on OpenDivX, XviD was started by a group of volunteer programmers after the OpenDivX source was closed
[11:33] <bart_17> hello and good day
[11:33] <eagles0513875> thats kool
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> Matroska is a project to develop an open source multimedia container format similar to Apple's QuickTime or Microsoft's Advanced Streaming Format. It is named after the Matryoshka doll.
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> mkv is pretty big with anime junkies these days
[11:34] <bart_17> how can i change the screen resolution?
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: as in its not high enough in the settings section ?
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: or as in "I want to change it on the fly" ?
[11:36] <bart_17> linux_galore: i just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my old pc and i can't seem to go beyond a 640X480 resolution
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: aaah only one method to fix that
[11:37] <bart_17> how?
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[11:38] <bart_17> will that work on ubuntu 5.10?
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: then restart X ie press ctrl alt backspace then start krandrtray so you can select one of the setting you have defined
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: should do
[11:39] <bart_17> thanx...
[11:41] <bart_17> my old pc is an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run fiesty decently on this pc, or should i stick with the 5.10?
[11:41] <binks> !mythbuntu
[11:41] <ubotu> Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information
[11:42] <franzmaximilian> yesterday adept prompted for update of a couple of packages, which i did without giving a closer look.  I do not remember getting any error, but today my xserver does not start!  Using a nvidia card.
[11:42] <franzmaximilian> any hint is welcome
[11:43] <bart_17> linux_galore: my old pc is an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run fiesty decently on this pc, or should i stick with the 5.10?
[11:43] <franzmaximilian> now, do not tell me this is not windows and i should know what i'm doing.... for I already know you are right.
[11:44] <Jahman> hi
[11:44] <franzmaximilian> but i was in hurry....
[11:45] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: no, get xubuntu, that way you can have the latest version without the slowness
[11:45] <hollandlucas> hello
[11:46] <hollandlucas> How can I change the language of the Kubuntu login screen (I'm using Feisty)
[11:46] <bart_17> xububtu fiesty?
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> www.xubuntu.org
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: yep
[11:46] <bart_17> thanx
[11:47] <bart_17> configuring the  resolution would be the same i presume??
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> hollandlucas: you have to change the default for kde as a whole
[11:47] <hollandlucas> I have
[11:47] <hollandlucas> but the login screen is still in English
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: no should be better as its newer, 5.10 was pretty crappy
[11:48] <bart_17> oh ok... what if i get thew same problem how would i address it?
[11:48] <hollandlucas> ah
[11:48] <hollandlucas> I think I've solved the problem
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: same way as i mentioned no different
[11:49] <bart_17> ok, by the way how do you start krandrtray?? i'm a noobie.. trying out linux
[11:49] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: open a term and type krandrtray after you login
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: if your in xubuntu though they use a different app
[11:50] <bart_17> what would it be?
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: not sure of the top of my head
[11:50] <franzmaximilian> am I the only one who has troubles with his xserver not working after the most recent update? I did it as always before but something must have gone wrong or updates are bugged!
[11:50] <bart_17> ok, thanx, i'll ask around in the xubuntu cahnnels...
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: xrandr
[11:51] <bart_17> thanx
[11:52] <bart_17> does xubuntu play mp3's out of the box?>
[11:53] <franzmaximilian> anyone can help about reconfiguring xorg.conf or nvidia drivers ? had them messed up with yesterday's updates...
[11:57] <franzmaximilian> can't anyone help?  I updated yesterday restricted modules at adept prompt, and my Xserver does not work today!
[11:58] <franzmaximilian> please.....
[11:58] <ubuntu_> hola
[11:59] <ubuntu_> alguien me puede ayudar
[11:59] <franzmaximilian> :(
[12:00] <ubuntu_> tengo q configurar una wifi
[12:01] <ubuntu_> tengo otra version en la ps3
[12:01] <eagles0513875> !es
[12:01] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:01] <eagles0513875> ubuntu_: solo ingles aqui
[12:01] <ubuntu_> gracias , y perdonar es la 1 vez
[12:02] <eagles0513875> de nada mi amigo
[12:03] <eagles0513875> u guys r lucky u have someone who can speak some spanish
[12:03] <franzmaximilian> can anyone help with nvidia configuration?  After updating restricted modules yesterday, my Xserver does not start!
[12:05] <franzmaximilian> thumbs down for kubuntu support
[12:06] <dr34dy> no sound for pidgin
[12:06] <dr34dy> could someone help?
[12:06] <dr34dy> i use kubuntu 704
[12:12] <hollandlucas> dr34dy: Do you have sound in other applications?
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> ?? I thought pidgin didnt have sound yet
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> the correct wrod though is "voice"
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> word*
[12:25] <word> linux_galore*
[12:25] <word> not so funny now is it? >:O
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> ?
[12:26] <word> i really should turn off nick notifications for this channel ;p
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> or use a handle that isnt a standard noun
[12:30] <lotzroeffel> moin
[12:32] <lotzroeffel> habe wlan-karte mit ndiswrapper installiert, dann mit iwconfig in der konsole konfiguriert. soweit so gut, aber er merkt sich das nicht. nach einem neustart muss ich iwconfig immer wieder neu ausfhren
[12:34] <pag> !de | lotzroeffel
[12:34] <ubotu> lotzroeffel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:34] <hollandlucas> vielleicht hilft das: http://osdir.com/ml/drivers.ndiswrapper.general/2004-05/msg00198.html
[12:34] <lotzroeffel> ein problem, das ich bei edgy auch nicht hatte, ist dass bei ndisgtk "hardware present:no" angezeigt wird. bei edgy wurde "...:yes" angezeigt
[12:36] <lotzroeffel> thx..ich schau mal - und wende mich ans deutsche forum :)
[12:37] <hollandlucas> can you recommend a kde native desktop search?
[12:40] <isthisnickvalid_> Hi
[12:47] <hollandlucas> I've got a rather stupid question:
[12:47] <hollandlucas> In konqueror I can specify shortcuts for search engines (like gg for google)
[12:47] <montoya> what's the name of window decorator theme inside kubuntu?
[12:47] <hollandlucas> how do I use these?
[12:48] <X2B> question: how can I see the boot messages ("Starting apache2 webserver... [OK] ") again? Where are these log-files stored?
[12:50] <SSJ_GZ> hollandlucas: Type gg:search term in the address bar :)
[12:50] <SSJ_GZ> hollandlucas: Or Alt+F2 and enter gg:search term in the mini-cli
[12:51] <hollandlucas> can I change the keyboard shortcut for that Alt+F2 thing?
[12:53] <^V^> X2B: logs are located in /var/log/
[12:55] <X2B> yes, but which of the files is it?
[12:55] <^V^> try boot?
[12:56] <X2B> "(Nothing has been logged yet.)"
[12:57] <Kubuntu> did any of you guys had kubuntu as first linux distro?
[12:58] <^V^> X2B: what are you looking for exactly?
[12:58] <X2B> fsck messages
[01:00] <^V^> there is an fsck folder
[01:01] <eagles0513875> Kubuntu: y do u ask
[01:01] <X2B> yeah, just saw that. But I think there were some fsck errors that don't show up in the fsck folder
[01:01] <^V^> also, you could grep through the logs
[01:02] <hollandlucas> weird
[01:02] <hollandlucas> I cannot find the driver for my printer in the KDE print dialog
[01:02] <hollandlucas> under gnome it was there...
[01:02] <^V^> hollandlucas: what printer?
[01:02] <hollandlucas> Epson Stylus DX4250
[01:03] <Kubuntu> because i've noticed that newbies usually install ubuntu while kubuntu is used by people who already had linux with kde
[01:03] <hollandlucas> the weird thing is
[01:03] <^V^> try both and use which you prefer
[01:03] <hollandlucas> that the driver is a gutenprint one
[01:03] <hollandlucas> and gutenprint is installed
[01:04] <^V^> hollandlucas: I seem to have it in the list
[01:04] <hollandlucas> weird
[01:04] <hollandlucas> I only have Stylus Color printers in the list
[01:04] <Kubuntu> gnome's popularity rises with ubuntu's popularity, don't you think?
[01:05] <^V^> scroll further?
[01:05] <hollandlucas> I've scrolled the entire list
[01:05] <^V^> probably, they are nearly identical
[01:05] <Kubuntu> gnome wasn't that popular in pre-ubuntu times :)
[01:06] <hollandlucas> I prefer KDE
[01:06] <Kubuntu> me too
[01:06] <^V^> hollandlucas: what have you got listed right after Epson Color * ?
[01:06] <hollandlucas> nothing
[01:06] <hollandlucas> the last one in the list
[01:06] <hollandlucas> is
[01:06] <hollandlucas> Stylus Scan 2500
[01:06] <^V^> no Epson Photo?
[01:06] <hollandlucas> nope
[01:07] <hollandlucas> Stylus Photo
[01:07] <^V^> I have color, cx, dx, photo
[01:07] <hollandlucas> is in the list
[01:07] <hollandlucas> but I need dx ;-)
[01:07] <arun> how do you delete a directory from konsole
[01:07] <hollandlucas> rm
[01:07] <^V^> rm -r dir
[01:07] <hollandlucas> rm -r
[01:07] <eagles0513875> Kubuntu: kde is better developed in my opinion
[01:08] <arun> thanks
[01:08] <eagles0513875> ^V^: what does this mean then rm -rf then the name of the directory
[01:08] <hollandlucas> I like KDE because of the killer apps it has
[01:08] <hollandlucas> Kontact
[01:08] <hollandlucas> Amarok
[01:08] <hollandlucas> Konqueror
[01:08] <^V^> -f forces read only files to be deleted also
[01:08] <arun> katapult
[01:09] <hollandlucas> I don't like katapult
[01:09] <arun> why's that
[01:09] <hollandlucas> Butler and Quicksilver (OS X apps) are much better
[01:09] <^V^> eagles0513875: type `man rm`
[01:09] <arun> yeah, but  katapult works fine for me
[01:09] <hollandlucas> I think it's ugly
[01:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:09] <arun> you can customise how it looks
[01:09] <eagles0513875> what is katapult supposed to do
[01:09] <hollandlucas> it's an app launcher
[01:09] <arun> mine looks pretty good
[01:10] <^V^> what does a catapult do?
[01:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:10] <^V^> lol
[01:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:11] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:11] <Kubuntu> next kubuntu is gonna have kde 4 rc2 as an option :)
[01:11] <otto_> hi all
[01:11] <otto_> I'm new to ubuntu
[01:11] <arun> anyone know how i can get konsole fonts to not be smoothed
[01:12] <hollandlucas> damn
[01:12] <hollandlucas> I can't get my printer to work because of KDE :-(
[01:12] <eagles0513875> otto if ur using ubuntu ur in teh wrong channel
[01:12] <otto_> sorry I mean kubuntu, anyways
[01:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:12] <eagles0513875> whats u haveing trouble with otto
[01:12] <otto_> can anyone help me making my thunderbird sync wiht linux and windows?
[01:12] <Kubuntu> arun: which console font do you use?
[01:13] <Kubuntu> arun: terminus is a nice one and it's not antialiased :)
[01:13] <otto_> pls
[01:14] <eagles0513875> when u say that otto u talking bout on the same machine or 2 different ones
[01:14] <eagles0513875> sup ice
[01:14] <arun> Kubuntu: all my fonts are antialiased.. can i just tweak some setting somewhere so that 'monotype' fonts are not antialiased?
[01:14] <icecruncher> hey eagles
[01:14] <^V^> hollandlucas: what kubuntu version are you on?
[01:14] <hollandlucas> Feisty
[01:15] <^V^> and you say you have the gutenprint package?
[01:15] <hollandlucas> I think so
[01:15] <hollandlucas> it's installed by default isn't it
[01:15] <icecruncher> eagles: speeds increase yet? :)
[01:15] <^V^> check? :)
[01:16] <Kubuntu> arun: i wish i knew how to apply some settings to specific fonts, too, i wonder if that's possible at all
[01:16] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:16] <hollandlucas> I didn't have it installed
[01:16] <^V^> which one?
[01:16] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:16] <hollandlucas> now I have more printers in the list
[01:16] <hollandlucas> CX and so on
[01:16] <hollandlucas> but DX is still missing
[01:16] <^V^> :)
[01:16] <^V^> :(
[01:16] <^V^> should be right after CX
[01:17] <hollandlucas> oh
[01:17] <hollandlucas> there it is!
[01:17] <^V^> :)
[01:17] <^V^> what was the package you installed?
[01:17] <hollandlucas> I installed gutenprint*
[01:18] <hollandlucas> I'm now gonna try and print something
[01:19] <otto_> somebody help
[01:19] <hollandlucas> mmm
[01:19] <otto_> pls
[01:20] <hollandlucas> there is a little x on the printer icon
[01:21] <hollandlucas> and it doesn't print
[01:21] <hollandlucas> it's attached to a server
[01:21] <hollandlucas> but Kubuntu has found it on the network
[01:21] <icecruncher> anybody install google desktop yet? it's awesome and fast
[01:21] <^V^> did you select "network printer"?
[01:21] <hollandlucas> yes
[01:21] <hollandlucas> ipp://192.168.1.2:631/ipp
[01:21] <hollandlucas> is what Kubuntu tells me
[01:22] <hollandlucas> icecruncher: is it qt based?
[01:22] <hollandlucas> it used to work under ubuntu
[01:22] <icecruncher> hollandlucas: I thinkso, you ca get the .deb from their site
[01:22] <^V^> you can still use it in kubuntu
[01:22] <icecruncher> it's not in wine anymore
[01:23] <^V^> you mean native?
[01:23] <icecruncher> yes
[01:24] <^V^> hollandlucas: go to http://localhost:631
[01:24] <hollandlucas> on the server?
[01:24] <^V^> pc
[01:24] <hollandlucas> the server (which the printer is attached to)
[01:24] <^V^> where you installed the driver
[01:24] <hollandlucas> is running OS X
[01:25] <^V^> I've got a networked printer but that's connected straight to my router
[01:26] <hollandlucas> I don't understand
[01:26] <hollandlucas> why it worked with Gnome
[01:26] <hollandlucas> and not with KDE
[01:26] <^V^> you didn't set it up right...
[01:26] <^V^> does it give an error?
[01:26] <^V^> and did you check the CUPs page?
[01:26] <^V^> CUPS*
[01:26] <hollandlucas> on which machine?
[01:26] <hollandlucas> the server or the client?
[01:26] <^V^> where you have installed CUPS driver
[01:27] <^V^> so the kubuntu machine
[01:27] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:27] <hollandlucas> I'm on the cups page
[01:27] <^V^> go to printers
[01:27] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:27] <hollandlucas> No printers found
[01:27] <^V^> really? hmm...
[01:28] <^V^> it should be in there
[01:28] <hollandlucas> it's weird
[01:28] <hollandlucas> the KDE GUI
[01:28] <hollandlucas> finds it
[01:28] <hollandlucas> and it tells me
[01:28] <hollandlucas> that there is a
[01:28] <hollandlucas> client-error-not-found
[01:28] <^V^> yeah, can't find it
[01:28] <^V^> did you set the right port?
[01:28] <hollandlucas> it displays the machine the printer is attached to though
[01:28] <hollandlucas> 631
[01:28] <^V^> but not the printer?
[01:29] <^V^> no, I mean the printer port
[01:29] <hollandlucas> ?
[01:29] <^V^> mine is 9100
[01:29] <hollandlucas> I don't know
[01:29] <^V^> socket://192.168.1.110:9100
[01:29] <^V^> from my CUPS page
[01:29] <hollandlucas> I set the printer up under OS  X
[01:29] <hollandlucas> which basically hides all the Unix stuff
[01:29] <^V^> yeah, but you need to set it up in linux also
[01:29] <hollandlucas> I know, the linux box is gonna act as the "client"
[01:29] <^V^> is the printer connected via USB/PAr port? or network?
[01:30] <hollandlucas> it's connected via USB to the server machine
[01:30] <hollandlucas> which is connected via a normal network
[01:30] <hollandlucas> to the client
[01:30] <^V^> okay, so that's a bit different
[01:30] <^V^> I'm not familiar with the print system in OSX
[01:31] <hollandlucas> it uses cups
[01:31] <^V^> what do they use?
[01:31] <otto_> if I wanna link my mail profile in thunderbird to the one in windows, should I use a sym or hard link?
[01:31] <^V^> oh, then you need to select "remote CUPS server"
[01:31] <^V^> did you pick "network printer"?
[01:32] <hollandlucas> wait
[01:32] <hollandlucas> my cups web ui is in German you see ;-)
[01:32] <^V^> lol...
[01:32] <hollandlucas> so
[01:32] <hollandlucas> I have to go to the "printers" tab?
[01:32] <^V^> yes
[01:32] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:32] <^V^> the last tab
[01:32] <hollandlucas> there I get a text field
[01:33] <^V^> and no printer list?
[01:33] <hollandlucas> and it tells me that no printers have been found
[01:33] <^V^> okay
[01:33] <^V^> go to the kde printer panel
[01:33] <hollandlucas> ok
[01:33] <^V^> delete the one you installed
[01:33] <hollandlucas> done
[01:33] <^V^> and try again
[01:33] <^V^> pick remote cups server
[01:33] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:33] <hollandlucas> anonymous?
[01:34] <^V^> I think so
[01:34] <hollandlucas> I'll try the "Test" button...
[01:34] <^V^> did you use ipp:// ?
[01:35] <hollandlucas> no
[01:35] <hollandlucas> I just entered the IP address
[01:35] <hollandlucas> and it found the printer
[01:35] <hollandlucas> there was a list
[01:35] <hollandlucas> showing one printer
[01:35] <^V^> okay
[01:35] <hollandlucas> mmm
[01:35] <hollandlucas> it's not printing anything
[01:35] <^V^> permissions?
[01:35] <hollandlucas> ?
[01:36] <^V^> check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the server
[01:36] <^V^> have you got a line like: Listen localhost:631 ?
[01:36] <hollandlucas> let me check...
[01:38] <_4strO> yop yop
[01:38] <hollandlucas> there is a line
[01:38] <hollandlucas> which is outcommented
[01:38] <hollandlucas> and says
[01:39] <hollandlucas> Listen 127.0.0.1:631
[01:39] <^V^> thats the same as localhost
[01:39] <^V^> is it commented?
[01:39] <hollandlucas> yes
[01:39] <hollandlucas> #
[01:39] <^V^> any that are uncommented?
[01:39] <hollandlucas> Port 631
[01:39] <hollandlucas> and
[01:39] <hollandlucas> Listen /private/var/run/cupsd
[01:40] <hollandlucas> should I remove the # before Listen 127.0.0.1?
[01:40] <icecruncher> _4strO: yop yop?
[01:40] <^V^> hollandlucas: comment the original line, add Listen localhost:631 and Listen XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:631 to it underneath
[01:40] <_4strO> :p hello :)
[01:40] <^V^> where the XXX.XXX...etc represents your LAN IP
[01:41] <^V^> of the client
[01:41] <hollandlucas> the LAN IP of the client
[01:41] <hollandlucas> ok
[01:41] <hollandlucas> ay
[01:41] <icecruncher> _4strO: :)
[01:41] <^V^> and restart the CUPS server
[01:42] <hollandlucas> I'm going to reboot the server
[01:42] <hollandlucas> it needed rebooting anyway ;-)
[01:42] <^V^> just the CUPS not the whole PC
[01:43] <^V^> I hope you are not doing a full system reboot...
[01:43] <hollandlucas> why?
[01:43] <^V^> becuase its slower...
[01:43] <^V^> and you don't need to?
[01:43] <hollandlucas> it's done
[01:43] <^V^> this isn't windows you know
[01:44] <hollandlucas> should I re-try adding the printer via the KDE dialog?
[01:44] <^V^> it should be in there still
[01:44] <^V^> right?
[01:44] <hollandlucas> no
[01:44] <hollandlucas> i deleted it ;-)
[01:44] <hollandlucas> I'll just re-added
[01:44] <^V^> :(
[01:44] <^V^> try again
[01:44] <hollandlucas> just to make sure
[01:44] <^V^> okay
[01:45] <hollandlucas> okay done
[01:46] <hollandlucas> I'll try printing something
[01:46] <^V^> okay...
[01:46] <hollandlucas> the KJobViewer appeared
[01:46] <icecruncher> how can I open my password protected rar file  from win?
[01:46] <hollandlucas> but the item inside it
[01:46] <hollandlucas> has now disappeared
[01:46] <hollandlucas> the printer isn't doing anything
[01:46] <^V^> hollandlucas: check the CUPS page
[01:46] <hollandlucas> the server's?
[01:46] <^V^> icecruncher: what do you mean from win?
[01:46] <^V^> hollandlucas: the clients
[01:47] <icecruncher> windows
[01:47] <^V^> so it is on windows and you want to read it in linux?
[01:47] <hollandlucas> okay I've opened the cups page
[01:47] <^V^> hollandlucas: printer in there?
[01:47] <hollandlucas> no
[01:47] <icecruncher> ^V^: it ws on windows, I put a password on it there, now in linux
[01:47] <hollandlucas> or wait
[01:47] <hollandlucas> it is
[01:47] <^V^> icecruncher: can you see the file from linux?
[01:48] <llutz> icecruncher: rar x -p file.rar
[01:48] <icecruncher> yes
[01:48] <^V^> sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:48] <hollandlucas> when I instruct it to print a testpage
[01:48] <hollandlucas> it says
[01:48] <icecruncher> llutz: not unrar?
[01:48] <hollandlucas> Quota limit reached
[01:48] <vzduch> ^V^: why unrar if there is rar? ;)
[01:48] <^V^> It sees it at least :) (I think)
[01:48] <llutz> icecruncher: unrar works too
[01:48] <^V^> what does the URI say?
[01:49] <hollandlucas> it says
[01:49] <hollandlucas> ipp://192.168.1.2:631/printers/Stylus_DX4200
[01:49] <hollandlucas> the 4200 is normal, OS X recognises it as a 4200
[01:50] <^V^> hollandlucas: what does the state say?
[01:50] <hollandlucas> I'll translate
[01:50] <hollandlucas> free, accepting jobs, published
[01:50] <^V^> that should be 'idle' ;)
[01:50] <icecruncher> ^V^ llutz: thnks
[01:50] <^V^> so that seems fine
[01:51] <hollandlucas> maybe I should reboot the client?
[01:51] <^V^> hollandlucas: I think it might be to do with the config on the server
[01:51] <^V^> hollandlucas: no
[01:51] <vzduch> ubuntu has joined #kubuntu.. o0
[01:51] <hollandlucas> let me check the server's cups conf
[01:51] <hollandlucas> maybe it didn't make the changes to the file
[01:52] <^V^> you can try `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart`
[01:52] <^V^> if you need to restart the CUPS server
[01:52] <ciacon> Hi, I would like to flash my bios, as I hope to use my large 1gb sdram module... chaintech (the mobo-manufacturer) has provided me with *.bin files... how do I flash the bios with ubuntu (as I can't use a standard windows bios flash-tool)
[01:52] <^V^> ciacon: any DOS flash tools available?
[01:53] <hollandlucas> yeah
[01:53] <nicolas> hello!
[01:53] <hollandlucas> it didn't make the changes
[01:53] <icecruncher> !hello
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <ciacon> ^V^: sadly no dos-flash provided
[01:53] <hollandlucas> I'll make the changes and restart cups
[01:53] <hollandlucas> one min
[01:54] <^V^> have you got some sort of auto-flasher when it detects a BIN file on CD/floppy?
[01:54] <^V^> I know some ASUS boards can do it
[01:55] <hollandlucas> okay done
[01:55] <hollandlucas> should I just try to print again
[01:55] <hollandlucas> or do I have to re-add the printer
[01:55] <^V^> no
[01:55] <ciacon> ^V^: I have checked... there is a seperate flash-tool provided in another *.rar that I got off their site... now I only need to do a "format a: /s".... -.-
[01:55] <^V^> that should be okay
[01:56] <hollandlucas> I'll try to print then...
[01:56] <nicolas> I've a pb... adept updater won't run, it say an other process is already using the data base... but i've just start the system, and i haven't run any application before... do you know how can i fix it
[01:56] <nicolas> ?
[01:56] <ciacon> ^V^: any sujestion how/where I can get a a standard dos floppy
[01:57] <^V^> you can use a CD
[01:57] <ciacon> ^V^: don't even have that....
[01:57] <hollandlucas> now the job doesn't disappear
[01:58] <hollandlucas> but nothing happens
[01:58] <^V^> ciacon: try this link, it might help: http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[01:58] <hollandlucas> there's a little  bolt on the icon
[01:58] <^V^> what is the error message?
[01:58] <hollandlucas> and it says: "Verarbeitung luft" which means
[01:58] <hollandlucas> that it's doing something
[01:58] <icecruncher> !adeptfix | nicolas
[01:58] <ubotu> nicolas: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:59] <nicolas> ok thxs :)
[01:59] <^V^> what is something?
[01:59] <hollandlucas> literally it says: Processing running
[01:59] <^V^> okay
[02:00] <^V^> printer not doing anything?
[02:00] <hollandlucas> bope
[02:00] <hollandlucas> nope
[02:01] <^V^> you restarted the CUPS server on Mac after the changes?
[02:01] <hollandlucas> yes
[02:01] <hollandlucas> I'll try re-adding the printer
[02:01] <^V^> and the changes are still there?
[02:01] <hollandlucas> let me check
[02:01] <ciacon> ^V^: thanks =)... FreeDos seems like the way to go =).... tyvm
[02:01] <hollandlucas> yes
[02:01] <hollandlucas> they are
[02:02] <etalli_> AHH! Who is using etalli?
[02:03] <nicolas> it works now!! thanks a lot ubotu!
[02:03] <etalli_> ubotu is a bot
[02:03] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[02:03] <etalli_> You don't need to thank bots.
[02:04] <truthseeker> any guru there 2 help me
[02:04] <nicolas> ? why?
[02:04] <hollandlucas> one more thing I can try
[02:05] <hollandlucas> adding ServerName 192.168.1.2 to /etc/cups/client.conf
[02:05] <icecruncher> lol, they shold make the bot reply to a thankyou
[02:06] <nicolas> lol it's my first time on IRC, i was thinking a bot was an admin, an humain admin
[02:06] <nicolas> so a bot is a robot ok
[02:07] <etalli_> nicolas:  that's ok, I made that mistake a while ago too. :)
[02:07] <hollandlucas> weird
[02:07] <hollandlucas> when I run lpq
[02:07] <hollandlucas> it tells me it can't reach the server
[02:07] <etalli_> nicolas:  The name gives it away.  uBOTu
[02:08] <truthseeker> ubotu...an artificial intelligence??
[02:08] <jzilla> my name is jzilla but im not a dinosaur
[02:08] <icecruncher> !ubotu
[02:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:08] <truthseeker> oh my..it is true.!!
[02:09] <^V^> hollandlucas: lpq?
[02:10] <hollandlucas> yeah
[02:10] <hollandlucas> from man lpq:
[02:10] <^V^> nvm
[02:10] <hollandlucas> lpq - show printer queue status
[02:11] <^V^> so you can't access printer?
[02:11] <hollandlucas> right
[02:11] <hollandlucas> I can ping the server's IP though
[02:11] <hollandlucas> so it's a cups problem
[02:11] <^V^> yeah...
[02:12] <icecruncher> how can I map my entire network? a in see what computer is online?
[02:12] <^V^> and you say it worked in gnome with no modifications to the cups server on OS X?
[02:12] <hollandlucas> yes
[02:13] <^V^> very strange...I'm out of ideas
[02:13] <^V^> but try to figure out how you set it up in gnome and how those settings tramnslate to kde
[02:14] <^V^> be back later
[02:14] <hollandlucas> k
[02:14] <nicolas> gotta go, thxs for the help! bye :)
[02:14] <etalli_> see you later, nicolas
[02:16] <etalli_> !botsnack
[02:16] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:21] <icecruncher> !ping
[02:21] <ubotu> pong
[02:21] <etalli-> !ping
[02:21] <ubotu> pong
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> ping
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> ah! one point for me in Ping-pong!
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> 20 more to go!
[02:23] <etalli-> !ping
[02:23] <ubotu> pong
[02:23] <etalli-> !ping
[02:23] <etalli-> I win!
[02:23] <icecruncher> !windows
[02:23] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:24] <etalli-> Who was talking about Windows?
[02:24] <etalli-> !equivalents
[02:24] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[02:25] <etalli-> Help!!!!  Wait.  Bil Gates isn't the devil.   That would be Bill Gates.
[02:26] <icecruncher> no, I mean Bil
[02:26] <etalli-> What?
[02:26] <etalli-> Who is Bil Gates?
[02:26] <icecruncher> agh
[02:26] <icecruncher> Bil meaning the entire family
[02:27] <etalli-> OK
[02:27] <icecruncher> lol, actually spelling mistake :)
[02:27] <darkrift411> bil as the the first part of the amount of his net worth?
[02:28] <darkrift411> q: i have a pocket pc, raki and multisync
[02:28] <etalli-> Good, cause I thought you were either a little slow, or that you were foreign and that meant the family of in some other language
[02:28] <darkrift411> when i plug in my ppc, i see
[02:28] <darkrift411> * huw_ (n=huw@88-106-205-197.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #kubuntu
[02:28] <icecruncher> haahaha
[02:28] <darkrift411> erm
[02:28] <darkrift411> 331.676000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
[02:28] <darkrift411> [  331.900000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:29] <darkrift411> and lsusb shows it
[02:29] <darkrift411> but nothing else finds it
[02:29] <darkrift411> any ideas as to what i could do?
[02:29] <icecruncher> etalli-: I'm neither, lol, well tired...
[02:31] <darkrift411> segue*
[02:31] <darkrift411> gn all
[02:31] <darkrift411> or gm for most
[02:33] <etalli-> Poll:  What IRC client are you using?  I am trying to choose one.
[02:33] <icecruncher> darkrift411: sorry, no
[02:34] <icecruncher> etalli-: Konversation
[02:35] <vzduch> irssi
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> konversation
[02:35] <Tm_T> irssi
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> thats why I like it ^^^
[02:36] <etalli-> :)
[02:36] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: well, those scripts can be in any client
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: but they aren't.
[02:36] <Tm_T> aren't what?
[02:36] <Tm_T> there by default?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:36] <Tm_T> hrr
[02:37] <Tm_T> glad they aren't
[02:37] <Tm_T> I have habit to kickban overusing of scripts
[02:37] <Tm_T> (not here though)
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> EEEK!
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> perdon perdon senor Tm_T!
[02:37] <Tm_T> haha
[02:38] <icecruncher> Sysinfo for 'machinata07': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Celeron (Mendocino) at 334 MHz (669 bogomips), HD: 7/36GB, RAM: 183/186MB, 148 proc's, 8.35h up
[02:38] <icecruncher> nosrednaekim: I agree< very nice scripts
[02:38] <Tm_T> I agree, very irrelevant and noisy stuff
[02:38] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[02:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> !slap Tm_T
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap tm_t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> er
[02:39] <icecruncher> hehe, can be usefulll though
[02:39] <Tm_T> yes, your hardware setup IS offtopic
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ok Tm_T
[02:39] <Tm_T> unless related to support question ofcourse (;
[02:39] <icecruncher> sory tm_T
[02:39] <Tm_T> icecruncher: hum, what we're hiding?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> mice st all come out to play
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> *et al
[02:40] <icecruncher> Tm_T: hide from you, the op
[02:40] <icecruncher> ah
[02:40] <Tm_T> icecruncher: I'm not op
[02:40] <etalli_> ?
[02:40] <icecruncher> not anymore
[02:40] <Tm_T> never been, you must been dreaming
[02:41] <icecruncher> it's all in you head, right?
[02:41] <etalli_> It had the little @ next to your name
[02:41] <Tm_T> ah that, that's just silly hat
[02:41] <icecruncher> ""Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from Tm_T""
[02:41] <icecruncher> lol
[02:41] <etalli_> Oh, I must have missed that.
[02:41] <Tm_T> icecruncher: never happened
[02:41] <Tm_T> ;--P
[02:43] <flami> Hi , can i create a ad hoc wlan with knetworkmanager ? I read about Networkmanager that you just need to create a new network , but i cant find that button in Knetworkmanager .
[02:44] <etalli_> Flaming space!  I just figured out who etalli is.  Preform whois on etalli and etalli_.  It's my other computer
[02:45] <flami> an evil nick steal ? ;)
[02:46] <etalli> Yay!
[02:46] <etalli> I am in my happy place.
[02:47] <icecruncher> etalli: Konversation has some really nice commands
[02:47] <icecruncher> Beer load [      \              ]  30%
[02:48] <etalli> What about Beer load [    \              ]  30%
[02:48] <Tm_T> icecruncher: stop
[02:48] <icecruncher> yesur
[02:48] <Tm_T> etalli: #kubuntu-offtopic for that thanks
[02:49] <squall2> hasan2 where r u
[02:49] <etalli> icecruncher: lets go!
[02:49] <DexterF> hi
[02:50] <DexterF> tried writing an iso image to cd-rw with k3b, deosn't work. k3b stalls, the it goes "buffer overflow, reduce speed"
[02:50] <squall2> what is going on hasan2
[02:50] <icecruncher> etalli: come on
[02:50] <DexterF> that cdrw works fine at 10x, tested, rather unused
[02:51] <DexterF> copied the wodim command to konsole, says cant open scsi driver
[02:51] <DexterF> as root!
[02:51] <DexterF> pointers?
[02:53] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[02:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:54] <Karti> Hi all, just a qucick one. I absolutely love Kubuntu 7.04 and its now on my main PC. (So its my way to force me to use Linux!) but what is the general opinion about moving to the next version every 6 months? Its just that 7.1 looks good as well? Any ideas?
[02:56] <[nk] > keeping with the latest packages is what keeps me happy
[02:56] <Karti> [nk] : But I can do that with the Adept Package Manager can I not?
[02:58] <Karti> I think the 7.04 is supported for 18 months which is fine, I just wondered if I would have to install all my apps again with each new version rather than just transfer my home partition accross
[02:59] <llutz> Karti: if you have installed all your apps from the official repos, you should be able to upate/upgrade to 7.10 later with adept
[02:59] <etalli> Karti:  Where did you get 7.1 from?  The next version will be 7.10.  The first number is the last of the year (2007) and the two after are the month (October, April)
[03:00] <etalli> Or was that a typo.
[03:00] <Karti> llutz: I have kept it all within the normal repos and some recommended ones (for exampleflash nvidea etc)
[03:00] <vzduch> flashplayer and nvidia are in multiverse afaik
[03:01] <Karti> etalli: Sorry, just thinking maths.......and leaving the 0 out :(
[03:01] <etalli> Ha.
[03:01] <Karti> As a new user I used "the 13 things to do to Ubuntu before you use it" webpage which suggested some others
[03:02] <icecruncher> Karti: what site is that?
[03:02] <etalli> Oh, where's that.  That would be interesting to read to see if I've done them all.
[03:02] <vzduch> never heard of
[03:02] <etalli> Ahh!  You beat me to it!
[03:02] <icecruncher> etalli: same here
[03:03] <icecruncher> yo eagles
[03:03] <Karti> Here you go > http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[03:03] <etalli> yay.  Read.
[03:03] <eagles0513875> sup
[03:03] <vzduch> for my first Kubuntu install I used http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu7.04 as a rough guide
[03:04] <Karti> It enabled me to have everything that I required to move away from Windows (if I remember correctly)
[03:04] <vzduch> Medibuntu shouldn't be a problem
[03:05] <vzduch> I got that too, but I found it through other sources
[03:05] <eagles0513875> would the msft equivalent of medibuntu be media center lol
[03:05] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[03:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:06] <Karti> vzduch: The site is a good one, complete with screenshots
[03:06] <etalli> since when are Google Earth, picasa, Adobe Reader, and Skype must haves
[03:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:07] <Karti> etalli: Never said I used them all ;)
[03:07] <eagles0513875> skype isnt picasa is a good picture program google earth is total up to the person
[03:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:07] <icecruncher> oh wow, nice guide
[03:07] <vzduch> Google Earth and Picasa are definitively not necessary
[03:07] <vzduch> Skype depends on the ppl you hang out with ;)
[03:08] <llutz> so does acroread
[03:08] <vzduch> Acroread is, like it or not, the best PDF viewer around
[03:08] <icecruncher> vzduch: neitehr are microsoft fonts
[03:08] <eagles0513875> !sourcomatic
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[03:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:08] <vzduch> Msft fonts are not necessary indeed
[03:08] <Karti> I will admit to using Acrobat though...
[03:09] <icecruncher> neither is d4x
[03:09] <eagles0513875> Karti: i think alot of us use acrobat lol
[03:09] <vzduch> llutz: just take a read through the pages of the Scribus project.. they see too many deficiencies w/ the alternatives (i.e. Kpdf, gpdf, xpdf and whatnot) so they recommend using Acroread for good results
[03:10] <llutz> vzduch: depends on your needs, kpdf works fine _for me_
[03:11] <Karti> Just out of interest is there a application that can view all file types?
[03:13] <icecruncher> I don't think so, although you can do a lot with konqueror + plugins
[03:13] <llutz> Karti: less :)
[03:15] <Karti> an example would be this http://www.explorerview.com
[03:16] <kain> hello
[03:16] <etalli> lol
[03:17] <icecruncher> ello
[03:17] <kain> i installed the demo of a program... installed the full version demo still runs... i need to uninstall the demo but it's not in my package manager or anything
[03:17] <Karti> but like you said with Konquerer you should get the same idea
[03:17] <icecruncher> Karti: yes
[03:17] <kain> i did find an uninstall file but when i try to run in the terminal it doesn't uninstall?
[03:17] <kain> help please?
[03:18] <Karti> kain: what program?
[03:18] <icecruncher> kain: what program? how did you install it?
[03:18] <kain> bridge construction set
[03:18] <kain> i sudo
[03:18] <icecruncher> kain: you used command line?
[03:18] <kain> yes
[03:19] <kain> for the bin
[03:19] <icecruncher> kain: do sudo apt-get remove <prgram name>
[03:20] <icecruncher> Karti: this site might help you make a choice between filemanagers. http://www.linux.com/articles/113952
[03:20] <kain> says couldn't find package
[03:21] <kain> this isthe path to the uninstall: /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall
[03:21] <Karti> <program name> should be the same name that you used to install it
[03:21] <kain> such as: ./bcsdemo_v1_3.sh.bin?
[03:21] <icecruncher> kain: try a dpkg -l | grep <name> to see if it's there
[03:22] <icecruncher> kain: no, you used the name, try bcs or bcsdemo
[03:22] <Karti> icecruncher: just reading the site - cheers ;)
[03:23] <kain> i just get a new command line
[03:23] <kain> doesn't do anything
[03:23] <kain> can i manually use the uninstall file?
[03:23] <kain> i even looked on their forums for uninstall nothing
[03:23] <kain> it has an uninstall file i am just new to linux/kubuntu
[03:25] <icecruncher> kain: in command line go to that folder
[03:25] <icecruncher> kain: then type ./unistall
[03:25] <icecruncher> or whtever
[03:25] <kain> k
[03:26] <eagles0513875> what does this mean guys
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # Automatically generated sources.list
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[03:26] <eagles0513875> #
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)
[03:26] <eagles0513875> #
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[03:26] <eagles0513875> #
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # If you don't know what to do with this file, read
[03:27] <juan> !grub
[03:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[03:27] <crdlb> !paste | eagles0513875
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # Ubuntu supported packages
[03:27] <ubotu> eagles0513875: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
[03:27] <crdlb> !ops
[03:27] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # Ubuntu community supported packages
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy universe multiverse
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates universe multiverse
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe multiverse
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # Ubuntu backports project
[03:27] <etalli> Ahh drowning in flood!
[03:27] <_4strO> eagles0513875: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
[03:27] <_4strO> eagles0513875: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
[03:28] <etalli> Thank you!
[03:28] <_4strO> lol
[03:28] <Hobbsee> my goodness....
[03:28] <Hobbsee> i thought he had more sense than that.
[03:28] <_4strO> i think he didn't see our warning
[03:28] <Hobbsee> he's been in this channel before.  it's not hard to see a topic
[03:28] <kain> ice: it says: Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[03:28] <_4strO> yep
[03:29] <kain> what should i do to uninstall?
[03:29] <etalli> Where is $KDEDIR?
[03:29] <kain> just delete the folder?
[03:30] <_4strO> kain: how do you install it ?
[03:30] <_4strO> hox did you ...
[03:30] <_4strO> how*
[03:30] <_4strO> lol
[03:30] <_4strO> fucking fingers
[03:30] <Hobbsee> !language
[03:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:30] <kain> i did so with the command line
[03:30] <_4strO> sorry ...
[03:31] <kain> i am trying to uninstall with the command line with no luck
[03:31] <Hobbsee> we'll see if he can behave and not flood
[03:31] <kain> also the program isn't in any package managers
[03:31] <_4strO> kain: did you try to ./your_uninstall_file ?
[03:31] <kain> yes
[03:31] <kain> said
[03:31] <kain> Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[03:32] <kain> i want to use the full version i just purchased not the demo
[03:32] <kain> but it keeps running the demo
[03:32] <_4strO> kain: what's your application and where did you find iot ?
[03:32] <kain> garagegames.com
[03:32] <kain> bridge construction set
[03:32] <_4strO> ok will look
[03:32] <kain> http://chroniclogic.com/
[03:32] <pag> kain, did you try to uninstall it with sudo, or normal user?
[03:33] <kain> sudo
[03:33] <_4strO> try with normal user :p
[03:34] <kain> k
[03:34] <eagles0513875> sry bout that guys
[03:34] <eagles0513875> i forgot that the shell doesnt allow one to use the ctrl c shortcut to copy stuff
[03:35] <kain> 4str0
[03:35] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$ cd /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo
[03:35] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo$ ./uninstall
[03:35] <kain> Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[03:35] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo$
[03:35] <kain> ?????
[03:36] <_4strO> kain: think there is no uninstall file
[03:36] <llutz> kain head -1 /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall
[03:41] <kain> i get this
[03:41] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$ head -1 /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall
[03:41] <kain> #! /bin/sh
[03:41] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$
[03:41] <kain> what should i do?
[03:42] <llutz> kain: it's just a shell-script, look what it does and try to fix it
[03:42] <_4strO> kain: can you paste the result of : ls /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo ?
[03:42] <kain> i don't know how to code that
[03:43] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$  ls /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo
[03:43] <gnomefreak> on pastebin please
[03:43] <kain> bcs                        files         prop            SDL LPGL.txt
[03:43] <kain> bcs.bmp                    font.bmp      readmedemo.txt  settings.cfg
[03:43] <kain> bcs-linux-openal-fixer.sh  hwconfig.cfg  readme.txt      setup
[03:43] <kain> bcsnosound                 Manual.url    rungamens.sh    sound
[03:43] <kain> Chronic.url                object        rungame.sh      texture
[03:43] <kain> eulademo.txt               OpenAL32.dll  sdl.dll         uninstall
[03:43] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$
[03:44] <shane2peru> !paste @ kain
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste @ kain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <shane2peru> !pastebin @ kain
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin @ kain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <shane2peru> !pastebin
[03:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ahcant use @ either > or |
[03:44] <kain> sorry about that
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | kain
[03:44] <ubotu> kain: please see above
[03:44] <kain> sorry
[03:44] <kain> i did see
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:45] <kain> dude i get it
[03:45] <gnomefreak> the bot shouldnt do that
[03:45] <_4strO> kain: how you install it ? ./install ?
[03:45] <kain> ?
[03:45] <kain> no
[03:45] <kain> i just opened the bin
[03:45] <kain> in terminal under sudo
[03:45] <_4strO> the game is still running ?
[03:47] <kain> nope
[03:48] <_4strO> kain: not sure you install anything  :p
[03:48] <kain> i can't even right click and delete the stupid file
[03:48] <kain> lol i've been running it
[03:48] <kain> how can i just trash the whole folder since it's got root permissions and group?
[03:49] <_4strO> kain: is it you who place the files in /usr/local/games/ ?N
[03:49] <kain> that was just the default location it chose
[03:49] <llutz> kain sudo rm -rf /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/
[03:49] <shane2peru> kain:  do you just want to change the permissions?
[03:50] <_4strO> kai
[03:50] <_4strO> kain: type what llutz wrote
[03:50] <llutz> kain: after that, look into the other /usr/local subfolders for "BridgeConstruction...:" and delete it too, if one exist
[03:51] <kain> ok
[03:51] <kain> thanks
[03:51] <_4strO> kain: and check if you have a ~/BridgeConstructionSetDemo or something like this
[03:51] <shane2peru> llutz: that should get rid of the folder too.
[03:51] <llutz> shane2peru: sure
[03:51] <shane2peru> llutz: key word there, should. :)
[03:51] <llutz> shane2peru: it will
[03:53] <kain> llutz what is the command for a file not a folder
[03:53] <kain> i found 2 files in /usr/bin
[03:53] <llutz> kain rm file
[03:53] <Kjellviz> Hi, when i try to access my other (windows) partitions and/or my ext usb hdd, i get this error: Error - kio_media_mounthelper.    hal-storage-removable-media-all-options refused uid 1000
[03:54] <juan> if i have grub on a partition do i put the place i mounted the boot partion in as --root-directory=/tmp/boot
[03:54] <Kjellviz> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 for my internal hdd partitions
[03:55] <kain> ok now should i install the full version of this thing a different way?'
[03:55] <Kjellviz> any ideas ?
[03:55] <Kjellviz> (it was working fine in gnome btw)
[03:55] <llutz> kain: if they don't offer a .deb you will have to install it the known way
[04:03] <vzduch> how about creating a .deb w/ checkinstall?
[04:04] <starz> argh
[04:04] <starz> anyone good at getting grub to redetect other operating systems?
[04:04] <starz> im quad booting and its not working quite right
[04:09] <shane2peru> starz: I have played around quite a bit with Grub!
[04:09] <shane2peru> starz: never got to quad booting, only triple booting. :)
[04:11] <starz> ;_;
[04:11] <starz> well i got edgy / xp / feisty / fedora7
[04:11] <icecruncher> why edgy? ust upgrade
[04:11] <starz> what i really need to do is a redetect of all os's on the hdd's like during the install
[04:11] <shane2peru> starz: ok, what is not booting?
[04:11] <starz> icecruncher, i keep one of em edgy b/c its more stable
[04:12] <icecruncher> k
[04:12] <starz> shane2peru, its not just that there's a lot of crapola thats extra in there
[04:12] <shane2peru> starz: than fiesty??
[04:12] <starz> but fedora per se
[04:12] <starz> no.
[04:12] <starz> daa4ewt20-439ur023.
[04:12] <starz> there is no need to upgrade.
[04:12] <starz> i already HAVE a feisty install.
[04:12] <starz> i need to redetect all os's on my hdd's like with the install disk
[04:12] <starz> but i DONT wanna reinstall.
[04:13] <starz> ive highly customized quite a few things.
[04:13] <shane2peru> who is controlling the grub, you don't have to re-install, just edit your grub menu.
[04:13] <starz> there used to be a way to do this from the alternate install cd but that doesnt work anymore.
[04:13] <starz> which sud
[04:13] <starz> sux even
[04:13] <icecruncher> starz: can you mount them?
[04:13] <icecruncher> starz: as in are the entries in fstab
[04:13] <icecruncher> ?
[04:14] <llutz> starz: sudo update-grub
[04:14] <shane2peru> starz: who has control of grub?
[04:14] <starz> llutz, tried it didnt work
[04:14] <starz> shane2peru, edgy on (hd0,1)
[04:14] <shane2peru> starz: are you in edgy now?
[04:15] <Kjellviz> Hi, when i try to access my other (windows) partitions and/or my ext usb hdd, i get this error: Error - kio_media_mounthelper.    hal-storage-removable-media-all-options refused uid 1000
[04:15] <starz> llutz, doing so only redetected kernels in the running partition install
[04:15] <starz> shane2peru, yes
[04:15] <Kjellviz> any ideas ?
[04:15] <shane2peru> starz: in the terminal type:  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste the results in pastebin
[04:15] <starz> Kjellviz, have you installed ntfs-3g
[04:15] <starz> kay
[04:15] <shane2peru> starz: as well as sudo fdisk -l
[04:16] <starz> /dev/hdb3       /media/hdb3     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[04:16] <starz> !paste
[04:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <starz> for the record
[04:16] <starz> if i dont break avahi dns stuff is usually very slow on feisty
[04:16] <Kjellviz> starz: no, but it was working fine before i installed kde/kubuntu desktop
[04:17] <starz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27954/
[04:17] <starz> Kjellviz, what were you running before that
[04:18] <Kjellviz> starz: native ubuntu install
[04:18] <starz> gnome eh
[04:18] <Kjellviz> starz: i just apt-getted kde
[04:18] <Kjellviz> yer
[04:18] <starz> ah
[04:19] <starz> Kjellviz, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <starz> ive never had that particular problem
[04:19] <starz> your probably missing some of the extras
[04:19] <starz> shane2peru, is that making sense there? my pastebin?
[04:20] <shane2peru> starz: yep, which hdd/partition is your Fedora installation?
[04:20] <starz> hdb2
[04:20] <shane2peru> starz: all your titles read Ubuntu :)
[04:20] <starz> i know i deleted that bit a minute ago
[04:20] <llutz> starz: edit menu.lst manually and add needed entries
[04:20] <starz> and ran the update-grub
[04:20] <starz> :P
[04:20] <starz> llutz, i'm trying like heck to avoid that
[04:21] <icecruncher> starz: that's way to may entries
[04:21] <starz> icecruncher, probably
[04:21] <starz> thus the desire to redetect all os's
[04:21] <starz> do you rememeber with um
[04:21] <Kjellviz> starz: but ive already got kubuntu desktop installed ><
[04:21] <starz> 5.10 you could use alternate to redetect everything?
[04:21] <starz> just go through the install process till you got to partitioning and mount things where they should be
[04:22] <starz> then tell it not to write over any of hte partitions but let it rewrite on swap
[04:22] <starz> get the error and skip to grub?
[04:22] <starz> then it would do that?
[04:22] <shane2peru> starz: ok, Fedora isn't even in the Menu list!
[04:22] <starz> i would grab that disk but it had trouble killing partitions
[04:22] <starz> shane2peru, i said i deleted it from the grub
[04:22] <icecruncher> starz: how about backing it up, and rewriting it yoursef
[04:22] <starz> it was ubuntustudio before
[04:23] <starz> icecruncher, i legitimately have quite a few kernels in each, and would REALLY rather not.
[04:23] <shane2peru> starz: can you mount that partition and paste the /boot/grub/ contents of the fedora partition?
[04:23] <starz> sure
[04:23] <shane2peru> starz: it is easy to write a new entry, just copy the other above it.
[04:23] <shane2peru> starz: also if there is a menu.lst if you can get me that contents in the fedora partition.
[04:24] <shane2peru> starz: from the fedora partition
[04:24] <icecruncher> aye shane2peru
[04:24] <mustasj> Is there another gnutella client than limewire/frostwire . preferable not java based.
[04:24] <starz> shane2peru, icecruncher http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27956/
[04:24] <starz> mustasj, yeah
[04:24] <shane2peru> icecruncher: have done it a few times, playing around with distros.
[04:24] <starz> gtk-gnutilla i believe
[04:25] <starz> there are others: sudo apt-cache search gnutilla
[04:25] <starz> add in correct spellings
[04:25] <starz> gnutella?
[04:25] <not-Timmay> does anyone use GIMP?
[04:25] <starz> arg i always get that wrong sorry
[04:25] <not-Timmay> sorry...BlueFish
[04:26] <starz> not-Timmay, eh?
[04:26] <jussi01> not-Timmay: I have, whats the issue?
[04:26] <shane2peru> starz: can you copy lines 14 - 22 from your Fedora menu.lst into your edgy menu.lst at the very end, so as not to mess up any other lines.
[04:26] <mustasj> starz: I belive limewire is based on the gnutella network. I remember in earlier KDE days there was a client apollon, but it looks like it's out of development
[04:27] <not-Timmay> Is there a way I can pipe the document i'm working on from my computer to the server that hosts my website?
[04:27] <dwbell> hello, kubuntu 7.04 freezes randomly every few days. not under load, mouse pointer still moves. Any Idea where to start looking in the logs?
[04:27] <starz> mldonkey-server gtk-gnutella
[04:27] <starz> thats basically it mustasj i think
[04:27] <shane2peru> starz: did you get that?  Does that make sense?
[04:27] <starz> shane2peru, yeah/
[04:27] <starz> i get you but
[04:28] <starz> what about when i update stuff.
[04:28] <starz> is there no way to do a full redetect anymore?
[04:28] <starz> like i said there used to be but its had a history of messing up partitions
[04:28] <shane2peru> starz: backup that menu.lst and keep it, I'm not sure about updating it automagically.
[04:28] <mustasj> starz: I'll check thoose out, thanks
[04:28] <starz> and with the current alternate install disks it ends up reinstalling to dirty mount anyway
[04:28] <starz> mustasj, yeah
[04:28] <shane2peru> you are quadbooting man, you need to roll up your sleeves and get into the grub list yourself :)
[04:29] <starz> shane2peru, yeah
[04:29] <starz> i get u
[04:29] <starz> but i disagree.
[04:29] <starz> ubuntu has AWESOME detecting of other os's
[04:29] <starz> this should DEFINATELY be a feature
[04:29] <shane2peru> starz: there may be another way, but I'm really not sure :)
[04:29] <starz> =/
[04:30] <shane2peru> most users are not triple booting, much less quad booting :), they are average users, you are above average.
[04:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:30] <eagles0513875> i could be quad booting if i had the space
[04:30] <icecruncher> shane2peru: lol
[04:30] <eagles0513875> and not filling up my laptop with junk
[04:30] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: I used to triple boot, but it was too much work.  Dual is enough for me. :)
[04:30] <starz> shane2peru, im addicted to trying linux's
[04:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:30] <starz> thats why i quad boot
[04:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:31] <starz> was using arch linux for a bit
[04:31] <starz> dont really like it that much
[04:31] <starz> thinking about dsl-n
[04:31] <eagles0513875> im addicting to testing out new operating systems even if they r msft crap
[04:31] <starz> i try to try a new one every couple weeks or so
[04:31] <starz> lol eagles0513875
[04:31] <shane2peru> starz: I'm with you, I enjoy trying distros, but they are always going to be messing things up, so you are going to have to learn a lot of that stuff.
[04:31] <starz> yeah im lucky on space - 200 + 500gig drives
[04:31] <starz> shane2peru, im starting to think i need to ask devs
[04:32] <etalli> Why aren't we allowed to use colors
[04:32] <etalli> !colors
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <icecruncher> starz: 200 500gigs?
[04:32] <shane2peru> starz: I have slowed down quite a bit now, booted into kubuntu this am, couldn't log in, Suse had messed up my /home directory. :)
[04:32] <eagles0513875> shane
[04:32] <eagles0513875> chunk suse
[04:32] <eagles0513875> its a resource hog
[04:32] <alvyn> hi, do somebody know something about installing/using nokia 6230i vith usb cable?
[04:32] <shane2peru> starz: I'm wondering if you should be a dev :) lol
[04:32] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: yep
[04:33] <eagles0513875> i got into suse with 9.0 then bought 10.0 and then found out bout the amazing kubuntu
[04:33] <eagles0513875> never want to try another linux distro again
[04:33] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: simmilar history
[04:33] <eagles0513875> plus ive found the most stable and most advanced 64bit operating system out there
[04:33] <eagles0513875> the best developed one too
[04:33] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: I'm trying 10.2, it isn't bad
[04:33] <icecruncher> shane2peru: I wonder about 10.3
[04:33] <icecruncher> :)
[04:34] <eagles0513875> ya but still u have to have a rather powerful system with it
[04:34] <starz> shane2peru, lol
[04:34] <shane2peru> starz: oh, if you can't boot into Fedora, when the grub menu comes up, you can manually edit lines by hitting 'e' on the line you want to edit.
[04:34] <starz> if i figure it out i'll post a howto
[04:35] <starz> naw itl work like that
[04:35] <starz> its just messy
[04:35] <shane2peru> starz: save you a bunch of time in re-booting
[04:35] <shane2peru> however write down what you get to work as it doesn't save it.
[04:36] <shane2peru> starz: what ever you do, don't re-order your grub menu list, always add others to the bottom, the top one gets overwritten with kernel upgrades.
[04:37] <shane2peru> starz: messy, If you don't like all those options, just comment a few out :) put a # sign before it.
[04:37] <shane2peru> makes it easy to add them back in later.
[04:38] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: yeah, I think Suse did run a little slower than Kubuntu.
[04:38] <etalli> !ping
[04:38] <ubotu> pong
[04:38] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure something is it necessary to do it as root??
[04:38] <etalli> !ping
[04:38] <sonoftheclayr> sumigamer: don't do it as root
[04:38] <etalli> !botsnack
[04:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:38] <not-Timmay> jussi01: Is there a way I can pipe the document i'm working on from my computer to the server that hosts my website?
[04:39] <eagles0513875> trust me it does
[04:39] <jussi01> not-Timmay: like live?
[04:39] <not-Timmay> yea
[04:39] <jussi01> i dont think so, but i could be wrong...
[04:39] <eagles0513875> im on a 2ghz athlon 64 machine and i have the same in my desktop
[04:39] <eagles0513875> 512mb of ram in there
[04:39] <not-Timmay> hmmm yea i think you're right
[04:39] <not-Timmay> i'll stick with KATE
[04:39] <eagles0513875> takes long to install the os and lode into gnome or kde
[04:39] <eagles0513875> not-Timmay: try nano
[04:40] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: I'm on a 3GHZ with 512MB ram
[04:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:40] <icecruncher> or the mousepad or whatever from xubuntu
[04:40] <eagles0513875> well ive overclocked my desktop to 2.9
[04:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:40] <eagles0513875> on stock aircooling
[04:40] <shane2peru> I forget the processor, it is rather new though,
[04:40] <shane2peru> oh, Petnium D, it's a sticker on the box :)
[04:40] <shane2peru> the sticker is on the box :)
[04:41] <shane2peru> I'm going to upgrade the ram to 1GB though.
[04:41] <not-Timmay> is there also something that can scan for errors and tell me what the issues is? my webpage works fine for FireFix but when it's launched in IE I get a lot of errors and when I check the line and col it doesn't make sense
[04:41] <icecruncher> shane2peru: try /sysinfo in konversation
[04:41] <shane2peru> icecruncher: in konversation or terminal?
[04:41] <icecruncher> shane2peru: konversation
[04:41] <shane2peru> Sysinfo for 'shane-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.00GHz at 2400 MHz (5994 bogomips), , RAM: 488/493MB, 143 proc's, 1.19h up
[04:42] <shane2peru> icecruncher: that is cool
[04:42] <shane2peru> icecruncher: there must be a list of those commands around somewhere?
[04:42] <icecruncher> shane2peru: setting -> configure konversation
[04:42] <starz> gah?
[04:43] <starz> shane2peru, no its not that
[04:43] <icecruncher> shane2peru: then command aliases
[04:43] <starz> there should be an option to redetect everything.
[04:43] <starz> say you have the linux-386 package in
[04:43] <shane2peru> icecruncher: found them, thanks
[04:43] <shane2peru> starz: what happened?
[04:43] <icecruncher> shane2peru: np
[04:43] <starz> thats just gonna keep the latest 386 kernel in and if you dont trim it youll end up with quite a few
[04:43] <starz> oh im gonna check out supergrubdisk
[04:44] <starz> mm
[04:44] <starz> actually nope doesnt work
[04:44] <starz> darn
[04:44] <shane2peru> starz: oh yeah, I forgot about supergrubdisk, backup your current menu.lst though.
[04:44] <shane2peru> starz: don't loose what you have :)
[04:45] <shane2peru> starz: what error did it give you?
[04:45] <starz> o thellwith it
[04:45] <starz> im gonna try this other other OTHER method
[04:45] <starz> i'll be back in about 10 minutes either way
[04:45] <starz> well
[04:45] <starz> if it goes bad more like 45
[04:46] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure super karamba, it says that Qt (  >=Qt 3.3 and <4.0) and to check the headers and libraries
[04:47] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure super karamba, it says that Qt (  >=Qt 3.3 and <4.0) and to check the headers and libraries
[04:48] <pag> sumigamer, is there some reason, why you want to install from outside the repos?
[04:48] <sumigamer> pag, can I download that from the repos??
[04:48] <pag> !info superkaramba
[04:48] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[04:49] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[04:49] <pag> sumigamer, remember to make sure you have universe enabled :)
[04:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:50] <sumigamer> pag, how  do I enable universe in adept??
[04:50] <pag> !universe | sumigamer
[04:50] <ubotu> sumigamer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:50] <khaije1> i'm looking for widgets to display system info on kubuntu. I've used karamba and liked it, but is there anything that is optimized for beryl?
[04:51] <ksivaji> please someone answer for my general question http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27962/
[04:52] <graham> Hey, is there anyway I can make a sort of login script so that when a user logs in it mounts a samba share with their username
[04:53] <icecruncher> lol you see the no download limit?
[04:53] <icecruncher> nm
[04:53] <llutz> ksivaji: when using tcp/ip data isn't encrypted by default, it's just splitted  to fit the paket-size
[04:55] <llutz> ksivaji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCPIP
[04:55] <ksivaji> llutz thanks
[04:56] <SillyZ> gmornin, Im a cable-modem user/subscriber and under windows I had to use a program called TCPOptimize to get the proper tcpip setting to obtain full speed from my isp, ive done a few tests here in kubuntu and it seems I need to do the same again , any such application for linux like winblows' tcpoptimize?
[04:56] <manu_> hi i wanted to create a small flashmovie is this possible with linux? without this macromedia windows commercial software?
[04:57] <manu_> i didnt found any software
[04:57] <llutz> SillyZ: 1. it's called windows 2. use ifconfig or ip
[04:57] <manu_> only heard something about it with openoffice but didnt found it
[04:57] <shane2peru> manu_: I think that OpenOffice Presentation can export to flash
[04:57] <shane2peru> I think you have to export to a flash file, never done it though.
[04:58] <SillyZ> llutz: well yes, i know its called whinhosed , I guess Ill have to take a look at what tcpoptimize did for exact configuration of the tcpip stack and then bring that similiar config over to kubuntu
[04:58] <manu_> shane2peru: yap have seen it but its only i frame without animation and my  aim is to put single frames ov a blender rendering movie in flash behind each other (like a gif animation) with transaprent background
[04:58] <dr_willis> In theory you could figure out what settings it set on windows. and set them under linux by hand.
[04:59] <dr_willis> about all it could set i think would be the mtu, and a few other things.  Aint tweaked that stuff in years.
[04:59] <SillyZ> aye dr_willis
[04:59] <SillyZ> it was mainly the tcp_receive window that got opened up iirc , mtu was 1500
[05:00] <dr_willis> heck - i forget even how to set that stuff under linux now.
[05:00] <ksivaji> shane2peru is it possible to create presentation movie with openoffice
[05:00] <shane2peru> manu_: these are more video, but I thought I saw something under one of these:  Kino or avidemux
[05:01] <shane2peru> ksivaji: not sure about that, I would check those two programs I just posted.
[05:01] <SillyZ> hows about flash player under kubuntu w/ thunderbird ? -- Ive installed it, plugins are in /home/name/.mozillia/plugins but still no go
[05:02] <shane2peru> ksivaji: or qdvdauthor
[05:02] <manu_> shane2peru: hm and terhe is no tool like macromedia flash? not available for a such big distribution
[05:02] <dr_willis> all ive ever done is apt-get install the flash stuff. and it works for me under firefox. and Konqueror but not opera. :)
[05:02] <manu_> i cant this flash speech and im not a friend of flash but i need a small movie
[05:02] <to6eto> haw to install kde 4 ?
[05:02] <shane2peru> manu_: not really sure, I don't work with flash much check here: http://www.linuxalt.com/
[05:02] <manu_> only frame after frame, pixelgraphics
[05:03] <to6eto> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[05:03] <to6eto> hmm ?
[05:03] <shane2peru> manu_: one of those video programs I recommended lets you add pictures and make a movie out of still frames.
[05:05] <SillyZ> whats the apt-get package name for macromedias' flash player anyone?
[05:05] <ksivaji> is there any thing in linux like windows movie maker?
[05:05] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:05] <llutz> SillyZ: flashplugin-nonfree
[05:05] <manu_> shane2peru: one of those... which? both?
[05:05] <shane2peru> ksivaji: I think kino is the closest thing to movie maker
[05:05] <SillyZ> thanks
[05:05] <manu_> and is it easy?
[05:05] <manu_> or have i first read some tutorials
[05:06] <shane2peru> manu_: I really don't remember I was making something else and noticed it.
[05:06] <mios> alguien habla castellano?
[05:06] <shane2peru> manu_: I think it is kino
[05:07] <llutz> manu_: ManDVD, ManSlide,but both are not in the repos
[05:07] <shane2peru> !spanish
[05:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:07] <SillyZ> hmmm well that didnt work, flashplugin-nonfree, is that for Konq? or firebird?
[05:07] <manu_> llutz: i prefer a program like adobe photoshop ime
[05:07] <shane2peru> mios: si hablo espaol, pero es mi segunda idioma :)
[05:07] <manu_> imageready but for flash
[05:07] <llutz> manu_: gimp
[05:08] <manu_> or like the big macromedia suite
[05:08] <llutz> manu_: then use windows
[05:09] <mios> shane2peru: necesito ayuda con adept manager
[05:09] <manu_> llutz: i like linux very much and tehre is alternative for every thing even crap^^ and there is no reasonable flash software?
[05:09] <SillyZ> ok it seems its working in konq, but unable to click on anything once a flash is loaded, but firefox still gets nothing
[05:09] <shane2peru> mios: estoy aprendiendo KDE, entonces puedo tratar de ayudarte, pero no te prometo nada. :)
[05:09] <dr_willis> flash software - to make flash? call the makers of flash and complaine..
[05:09] <mios> shane2peru: no puedo instalar nada
[05:09] <llutz> manu_: flash is proprietary crap
[05:09] <dr_willis> If they wont write it.. well.....
[05:09] <BluesKaj_> WTH is going on with freenode ..it rejects my nick saying it's already in use when it isn't
[05:09] <dr_willis> if they wont license the specs/info to do it...
[05:10] <icecruncher> they have a linux version... coding only though
[05:10] <icecruncher> for flash
[05:10] <Pazy> Can someone help me, im new to kubuntu and after i updated it (using the full update option on Adept package manager thing) I cant get to the desktop
[05:10] <dr_willis> ive always wished flash would just DIE off. :)
[05:10] <dr_willis> seen it used badly - in too many bad ways.
[05:10] <icecruncher> yes
[05:11] <manu_> llutz: yes i know, i make websites without flashsupport  and it has many diadvatages, but now i have to make a little movie
[05:11] <shane2peru> mios: eso no es bien, no estoy seguro de esto.  quizas en #kubuntu-es encuentras ayuda, pues no se mucho sobre adept.
[05:11] <dr_willis> Then theres ' Homestarrunner.com '    :0
[05:11] <mios> shane2peru: ok muchas gracias :-)
[05:11] <shane2peru> mios: o si hablas ingles pregunta aqui
[05:11] <icecruncher> haha
[05:11] <manu_> and i dont have the macromedia suite so i have to download it illegally to make this stupid video :(
[05:11] <shane2peru> mios: de nada.
[05:11] <mios> mi ingles es muy pobre :(
[05:11] <eagles0513875> mios solo ingles aqui por favor
[05:11] <dr_willis> i wonder if ffmpeg can convert avi to flash.
[05:11] <eagles0513875> !es
[05:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:12] <eagles0513875> para ti mios
[05:12] <manu_> mios: hablo tambien espanol
[05:12] <icecruncher> dr_willis: I hate flash based websites expecially
[05:12] <icecruncher> nasty
[05:12] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  im finding more and more web sites taht i cant even print. :( which is annoying.
[05:12] <ksivaji> !kino
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <eagles0513875> manu i mios por favor usar espanol por favor
[05:12] <eagles0513875> !es
[05:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:13] <icecruncher> dr_willis: oh yeah, tell me about it lol
[05:13] <dr_willis> No Hoblo.
[05:13] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: there is never anyone in the Spanish rooms. :)
[05:13] <eagles0513875> i dont mean to be mean but in the rules this is strictly an english room
[05:13] <shane2peru> I just checked it out, and there are five people
[05:14] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: understood.
[05:14] <eagles0513875> dont take it personally shane2peru
[05:14] <shane2peru> starz: and how did it go?
[05:14] <dr_willis> i can rember like 4 phrases from my Spanish 101 class.
[05:14] <dr_willis> :)
[05:14] <Pazy> Can someone help me, im new to kubuntu and after i updated it (using the full update option on Adept package manager thing) I cant get to the desktop
[05:14] <dr_willis> 2 of which can get your face slapped... :)
[05:14] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: no problem, I joined the spanish room :)
[05:15] <eagles0513875> u in there 2
[05:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:15] <dr_willis> Pazy,  so it worked.. then after the update, it stopped loading the KDM login manager?
[05:15] <shane2peru> dr_willis: yeah, probably better stick to the English room then :) lol
[05:15] <user_> /server ir.lv
[05:15] <BluesKaj_> dr_willis, any other reports of ppl with registered nicks having trouble logging on to freenode ?
[05:15] <eagles0513875> nope
[05:15] <dr_willis> BluesKaj_,  not that i have seen
[05:16] <eagles0513875> i havent had any problems today
[05:16] <BluesKaj_> weird
[05:16] <icecruncher> nope
[05:16] <eagles0513875> u having trouble
[05:16] <BluesKaj_> nothing but probs
[05:16] <eagles0513875> ?
[05:16] <Pazy> It worked (including turning off/on over a couple of days) then I updated and i get the bootloader and a Kubuntu logo/loading bar then a flashing underscore then nothing
[05:16] <manu_> llutz: still here?
[05:16] <eagles0513875> !ops
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[05:16] <llutz> manu_: yes
[05:16] <eagles0513875> any ops having problems logging in to freenode
[05:16] <icecruncher> BluesKaj_: what probs?
[05:17] <BluesKaj_> freenode rejects my login due my nick already in use , when it's not
[05:17] <eagles0513875> ohhhhhhhh
[05:17] <LongPointyStick> ?
[05:17] <eagles0513875> that is whats called a ghost
[05:17] <icecruncher> !ghost | BluesKaj_
[05:17] <ubotu> BluesKaj_: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[05:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[05:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:17] <manu_> llutz: you say i shall use windoze but i want so i'm not able to create a little flashmovie still  containing images
[05:17] <eagles0513875> that is what u gotta do blues lol that happened to me once before
[05:17] <BluesKaj_> eagles0513875, thx
[05:17] <eagles0513875> no prob
[05:17] <shane2peru> does anyone know where to find my liblamemp3.so file for Audacity?
[05:18] <BluesKaj_> icecruncher, dr_willis, thx
[05:18] <icecruncher> mp
[05:18] <icecruncher> *no
[05:18] <icecruncher> agh np
[05:18] <obelix_> #ubuntu
[05:18] <shane2peru> nevermind, found it :)
[05:18] <llutz> manu_: i said: if you need win-apps you should use windows. and if there aren't linux-alternatives for your needs, you'll need win-apps. flash doesn't like free software :)
[05:19] <eagles0513875> blues did that help
[05:20] <manu_> llutz: yeah i changed many applications of windoze  to opensource ones but dont know if terhe is a software for my needs, i'm only wondering that many apps export to flashs but none seems to work like a gif animator
[05:20] <dr_willis> I think ive seen png animation features, (and gif animation?) in GIMP
[05:21] <icecruncher> Hey BluesKaj
[05:21] <BluesKaj> hi icecruncher
[05:21] <dr_willis> they take a set of images and smoosh them into a animated file. :)
[05:21] <kazoobuntu> manu_: http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ may provide a roundabout way of doing what you ask - you could use avidemux or mencoder to create an AVI movie, then play it while screencapturing with wink.  Not robust, but ok for a one shot deal.
[05:21] <elcuco> hi, anyone else sseing that katapult is taking 100% constantly?
[05:21] <llutz> manu_: convert (imagemagick) might create animated-gifs
[05:21] <dr_willis> 'smoosh' = technical term for 'some how i dont understand'
[05:21] <dr_willis> heh.
[05:21] <llutz> manu_: but no idea, how to convert that into flash
[05:22] <BluesKaj> tried that google desktop for linux ...not recommended ...total fiasco, tied up my pc ans stalled everything ...don't think it's recommended for feisty anyway
[05:22] <dr_willis> Converting AVI video to SWF using FFMPEG Scout and SWF Scout
[05:22] <icecruncher> lol
[05:22] <icecruncher> !worksforme
[05:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:22] <dr_willis> http://www.bytescout.com/ffmpegscout_avi_to_swf.html
[05:22] <icecruncher> I works for me!
[05:23] <dr_willis> !willworkforfood.
[05:23] <icecruncher> lol
[05:23] <llutz> BluesKaj: google-desktop: why should i show an us-company all my data? :)
[05:24] <manu_> kazoobuntu: dr_willis hm i dont have a movie just single pictures with alpha value and like creating a gif i wnat to make a flash cause i have more than 256 colors and nicer transaprency
[05:24] <manu_> it shall be like a gif animation with png
[05:24] <BluesKaj> there's a nondisclosure option which most ppl will use , i'm sure
[05:25] <nicolas> hello!
[05:25] <llutz> BluesKaj: and you would trust it?
[05:25] <icecruncher> hi nicolas
[05:25] <dr_willis> ocnvert it to avi, then to flash.. of course.. if you can make an animated gif/png out of it. why not use that instead.. but  i guess it all depends on your needs.
[05:25] <icecruncher> llutz: I do, dont really care though, nothing important
[05:26] <llutz> icecruncher: it's not a question of"important or not"
[05:27] <icecruncher> llutz: I mena, they won't know anything important
[05:27] <manu_> dr_willis:  png supports animation?
[05:27] <manu_> i need it for websites
[05:27] <nicolas> i've a pb, again... i'm intalling FullSync but I can't edit fullsync.sh they say i haven't the right
[05:27] <manu_> so the best way would be swf, cause gif gets to big and has less colors
[05:27] <nicolas> do you how can i make it work?
[05:28] <dr_willis> Im pretty sure there was sone animaged png thing..
[05:28] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: there is a nondisclosure thingy
[05:28] <manu_> nicolas: sudo
[05:28] <nicolas> in Kate?
[05:28] <_4strO> !kdesu
[05:28] <dr_willis> Animated PNG: There's a format called MNG which is intended as a replacement for animated GIF, but without the limitations imposed by GIF
[05:29] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:29] <dr_willis> (for instance, MNG animations can have full color depth and either partial or full transparency)
[05:29] <_4strO> nicolas: kdesu kate yourfile
[05:29] <dr_willis> http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/imageformats.html
[05:29] <nicolas> ok thanks! i'll try
[05:31] <pinheiro> hey dudes
[05:31] <pinheiro> need a bit of help with a minor issue
[05:32] <nicolas> works well! thanks a lot!!
[05:32] <pinheiro> were can i find a nice mplyer repository ;)
[05:32] <llutz> pinheiro: medibuntu
[05:32] <pinheiro> all the codecs working?
[05:33] <pinheiro> or just the ones without patent issues
[05:33] <manu_> dr_willis: and this format works in the browsers? how to create MNG?
[05:33] <llutz> pinheiro: all i need work
[05:33] <_4strO> pinheiro: medibuntu
[05:33] <pinheiro> nevermind read it
[05:33] <pinheiro> Medibuntu (Multimedia, Entertainment & Distractions In Ubuntu) is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons (copyright, license, patent, etc).
[05:33] <pinheiro> :)
[05:34] <llutz> pinheiro: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[05:34] <pinheiro> thanks alot
[05:34] <dr_willis> manu_,  gimp would be my guess.. or imagemagic, or proberly a dozen otehr tools
[05:34] <_4strO> llutz: actually medibuntu.org i think
[05:34] <manu_> dr_willis: ok thx
[05:34] <dr_willis> manu_,  that site is a little old. :) it dont give any good links either.. but i just was doing a quick google.
[05:35] <_4strO> pinheiro: nevermind ... ory of packages that cannot be included "by default" ...
[05:35] <llutz> _4strO: really? time for updating sources, thx
[05:35] <_4strO> llutz: yes :p
[05:35] <_4strO> llutz: and update and upgrade ;)
[05:35] <MaTiAz> Where's the MP3 decoder plugin for k3b?
[05:35] <llutz> libk3b2-mp3
[05:36] <MaTiAz> thanks llutz
[05:36] <manu_> ok dr_willis
[05:36] <pinheiro> thanks guys
[05:36] <pinheiro> :)
[05:36] <_4strO> MaTiAz: libk3b2-mp3 | 1.0-0ubuntu2 | http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[05:37] <manu_> dr_willis: W3C downst support MNG either FF nor MSIE etc :(
[05:37] <llutz> so,  up2date again :)
[05:38] <Pazy> This mean no one can help me?
[05:38] <dr_willis> manu_,  that was from that site? im pretty sure that info is very OLD
[05:38] <_4strO> Pazy: ???
[05:38] <_gtt_> can anyone help me install my MFD?
[05:39] <Pazy> @_4stro0 I ask for help a bit ago and someone answered then nothing
[05:39] <_4strO> mfd ?
[05:39] <manu_> dr_willis: mo not your site gimp forum
[05:39] <manu_> *no
[05:39] <_gtt_> multi function device
[05:39] <_gtt_> it's a hp photosmart c6180
[05:39] <_gtt_> i had it installed easily in edgy (Ubuntu), but i can't get it installed in Feisty (Kubuntu)
[05:40] <_gtt_> it's wireless on my network
[05:40] <_4strO> Pazy: your on the PC with the liveCD ?
[05:40] <ksivaji> jucato  hi
[05:40] <_gtt_> i dunno why linux doesn't just recognize it as a upnp device and auto install the software
[05:40] <Pazy> No im on my windows XP just now
[05:40] <_4strO> can you boot on the liveCD and come back here ?
[05:41] <Pazy> No when i loaded the live CD i couldent connect to the net (wired or wireless) this is only way i can get on net at mo since i cant boot Kubuntu
[05:42] <_4strO> Pazy: it's gonna be complicate we need more info about the source of problem
[05:43] <_4strO> Pazy: did you get the lgin screen ?
[05:43] <_gtt_> damn
[05:43] <Pazy> I got the boorloader and a Kubuntu logo then a flashing underscore
[05:43] <dr_willis> _gtt_,  my HP Printer/scanner works decent in linux. :) but its an older one.
[05:44] <stamen> !w32codecs
[05:44] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:44] <ksivaji> how to start sql server
[05:44] <Pazy> I tried using recovery mode and it then something about NVIDIA missing a referance
[05:44] <eagles0513875> ksivaji: u tryign to setup a mysql server and database
[05:44] <stamen> !Codecs
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 yes
[05:44] <_gtt_> mine will work fine
[05:44] <_gtt_> if i can get it setup... :)
[05:44] <_gtt_> so help me set it up in kubuntu
[05:44] <eagles0513875> i have a link for ya ksivaji
[05:45] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 can you give me that
[05:45] <ksivaji> now
[05:45] <eagles0513875> ksivaji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-39085275bc28194cca77d021ec362ff3003b10bc
[05:45] <eagles0513875> thats the link
[05:45] <_4strO> Pazy: by bootloader you mean where you choice between win and linux ?
[05:45] <eagles0513875> i used that to setup my own mysql
[05:45] <_gtt_> i'm just saying i dunno why it don't automatically set it up cuz it's upnp if it's gonna toot a upnp horn.
[05:46] <dr_willis> for the printer part. you use the cups printer tools.. for the scanner, ya run the sane tools. is all ive done.
[05:46] <Pazy> Yup
[05:46] <_gtt_> CUPS printer tools... why not use hplp? but i'll take CUPS.. maybe i'm taking the wrong steps
[05:46] <dr_willis> 'upnp' has very little to do  with it.
[05:46] <dr_willis> !cups
[05:47] <Pazy> I have 5 choices there, 4 linux's (diffrent kernals + revovery modes) and WinXP
[05:47] <_4strO> Pazy: have you try to update and upgrade again in recovery session ?
[05:47] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:47] <Pazy> I dont know how to do that
[05:47] <dr_willis> Cups is the printer subsystem used by linux.   hplp is a specific driver i thoiugh for cups
[05:47] <_4strO> Pazy: or try to boot on different kernel
[05:47] <dr_willis> there is some HP service i recall using ages ago.
[05:47] <eagles0513875> !hp
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <dr_willis> that may bee needed for full funcationilty
[05:47] <_gtt_> ok.. hrmm.
[05:47] <_4strO> Pazy: at least not the first
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> !libmad
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <_gtt_> !c6180
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c6180 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <dr_willis> I dont have a hp multifinmction printer on here any more
[05:48] <_gtt_> ok
[05:48] <_gtt_> well, thanks for your help.
[05:48] <Pazy> Ive tried all 4 Linux choices, the 2 normal modes do the same, and so do both recovery modes
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  what codec I need to install for MP3 audio CD burning support?
[05:48] <_4strO> Pazy: to update and upgrade : apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (if your not root user, put a sudo at the beginning)
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> !mp3
[05:49] <Pazy> I think it might be the Nvidia driver (propiatory), is there a command to switch it back to the free one within recovery mode?
[05:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <_4strO> Pazy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:49] <DexterF> guys, I fired up 7.04 live and can't see hda - where is it?
[05:49] <_gtt_> if it's a SATA it's on /sda
[05:49] <DexterF> no, pata
[05:49] <_gtt_> most laptops and new desktops will be /sda
[05:50] <DexterF> old laptop
[05:50] <_gtt_> *shrug*
[05:50] <DexterF> no sda there as well
[05:50] <_gtt_> !hda
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <Pollywog> !pilot
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pilot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <_gtt_> what's in /media
[05:50] <DexterF> nuthin
[05:50] <_gtt_> dang
[05:50] <_4strO> DexterF: if you're on the liveCD i think it dont automount hardrives
[05:50] <joe_> Did you try all of /dev/hd[abcd] ? My old laptop had an empty primary IDE controller, everything was hooked up to the secondary... who knows why?
[05:51] <DexterF> _4strO: did on 6.06
[05:51] <_4strO> DexterF: try to konqueror media:/
[05:51] <_4strO> and not /media :p
[05:52] <DexterF> DUH :)
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> so, if I try to burn an audio CD in k3b I can't add mp3's ..  says unsupported format or some such..  what do I need to install>?
[05:52] <_4strO> DexterF: do you see them ?
[05:53] <glenner> does anyone know how to start a text based install with the kubuntu-alternate (feisty) cd?
[05:53] <_4strO> !codecs | CaBlGuY
[05:53] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:53] <glenner> there is no item in the bootmenu like there is with the ubuntu-alternate cd
[05:53] <BluesKaj> !mp3| CaBlGuY
[05:53] <eagles0513875> ksivaji: did that help
[05:54] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 configuering
[05:54] <dr_willis> glenner,  you are confusing me.. the Alternative install cd. is text based.. You refering to the DVD?
[05:54] <eagles0513875> :)
[05:54] <eagles0513875> glad i could help ya out ksivaji
[05:54] <ksivaji> ok
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> yea ummm  U already know about restricked formats there..   all I need to know is what do I need to install to be able to burn audio CD's in K3b..
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> please..
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> :)
[05:54] <DexterF> turned out it was actually sda
[05:54] <DexterF> odd. didnt see it at first
[05:55] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 actually i need to try sql queries
[05:55] <glenner> dr_willes: i am reffering to the CD. i don't see an option to start a text based install
[05:55] <BluesKaj> !K3B-mp3
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k3b-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <llutz> CaBlGuY: libk3b2-mp3
[05:55] <dr_willis> !find mp3
[05:55] <ubotu> Found: libgmp3-dev, libgmp3-doc, libgmp3c2, beep-media-player, checkmp3 (and 41 others)
[05:55] <CaBlGuY> hmmmm   ok llutz   I'll look that up..
[05:56] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 :
[05:56] <eagles0513875> ?
[05:56] <Pollywog> anyone have Palm T2 working with Feisty?  Mine worked with Debian but I can't get it to work in kubuntu
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> llutz,  that was it..  thanks bunches!  :L)
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> :)
[05:58] <ksivaji> is there anything like oracle in linux
[05:59] <BluesKaj> dunno why i bother , don't use mp3s anyway
[06:00] <Kjellviz> i started out with a ubuntu install, installed kubuntu via apt-get, adept removed gnome on a update a day later, now id want to get gnome back but sudo apt-get install gnome (or ubuntu-desktop) wont work. Heres a pastebin of one of the tries: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27959/ help anyone ?
[06:00] <vzduch> ksivaji: if I'm not totally wrong, Oracle exists for Linux
[06:00] <eagles0513875> !oracle
[06:01] <ksivaji> vzduch ho fine my friend  said  it is not there
[06:01] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[06:01] <eagles0513875> there u go ksivaji
[06:01] <Pollywog> Kjellviz: did you try 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[06:01] <glenner>  dr_willis: i am reffering to the kubuntu-alternate CD, not the dvd. i don't see an option to start a text based install (like i see in screenshots of ubuntu-alternate)
[06:01] <ksivaji> hi jucato
[06:02] <icecruncher> why would you want oracle?
[06:02] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, open synaptic/edit/fix broken packages... then try again
[06:02] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 thank you ,your are helping a lot for me
[06:02] <vzduch> 
[06:02] <dr_willis> glenner,  Hmm.. The live cd is the X/Gui isntaller.. the Alternative cd's boot to the console/text installer.  Ive never seen one that could do One or the other. on a single cd..
[06:02] <dr_willis> Unless Kubuntu has sone some changes ive missed.
[06:02] <eagles0513875> ksivaji: is ur name registered dude
[06:02] <icecruncher> dr_willis: no, youre correct
[06:03] <Kjellviz> Pollywog: no not yet
[06:03] <Pollywog> the name dude is probably registered
[06:03] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  for once... :)
[06:03] <Kjellviz> BlueDevil: synaptic is gone, its gnome
[06:03] <glenner> i will check my iso against the MD5SUMS file to make sure i have the correct one..
[06:03] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:03] <dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 yes
[06:03] <llutz> glenner: feisty-alternate shows first entry in grub-menu: "install in Textmode"
[06:03] <eagles0513875> send me a pm dude
[06:03] <dr_willis> does the DVD have Both live and alt Installs?
[06:04] <Kjellviz> Pollywog: do you mean "sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[06:04] <Pollywog> no
[06:04] <icecruncher> dr_willis: lol, I do wish to install via text instead of live, as an opton on a live
[06:04] <Kjellviz> ok just the -f ?
[06:04] <Pollywog> 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[06:04] <Pollywog> yes
[06:04] <Kjellviz> ok sec
[06:04] <icecruncher> Pollywog: the f after the install
[06:04] <Pollywog> or you can install aptitude
[06:04] <Pollywog> oops
[06:05] <Pollywog> thanks icecruncher
[06:05] <Kjellviz> lol ok
[06:05] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, there's no need to uninstall a desktop , just choose the one you want at the login menu , KDE and gnome can co-exist nicely on the same install
[06:05] <Kjellviz> ive got aptitude
[06:05] <Kjellviz> BluesKaj: i know, but gnome is uninstalled
[06:05] <icecruncher> Kjellviz: it's very similar
[06:05] <Kjellviz> adept did that for some reason (uninstalling gnome)
[06:06] <BluesKaj> did you install synaptic, then do sudo aptitude update?
[06:06] <Pazy> Im back I am, on windoze Xp..............................
[06:07] <Kjellviz> BluesKaj: uhm.. no dont think so ?
[06:07] <dr_willis> Back Foul Beast! :)
[06:07] <Pazy> Least im not here by choice
[06:09] <Pazy> I inputted the exact commands i got told and it said a lot of HTTP://bla bla  then said 0 packages upgarded, 0 installed etc.
[06:11] <Pazy> Random Q, whats you guys opinion on Mac OS X, evil good or middle ground?
[06:12] <Pollywog> I think it is just another option
[06:12] <icecruncher> Pazy: middle or good
[06:13] <Pollywog> FreeBSD is another option, one I am trying on another computer
[06:13] <Pazy> Im definately thinking about saving up and making my next PC a desktop mac, though keeping this one as well
[06:13] <Pollywog> been compiling for 24+ hrs now
[06:13] <icecruncher> Pazy: sorry, middle and silghly evil, caus you have to pay for every darn thing
[06:13] <Pollywog> PC-BSD was much faster/easier to install
[06:13] <Pazy> What you mean?
[06:14] <icecruncher> Pollywog: it's fast?
[06:14] <Pollywog> PC-BSD installs easily, like Linux
[06:14] <Pollywog> FreeBSD is tedious like Debian was 10 yrs ago
[06:14] <Pazy> I think i just like trying Os's, ive got XP,Kubuntu Linux (and 6 ubtuntu live CD's + Mandriva CD etc.) and Solaris.
[06:14] <icecruncher> Pollywog: I know, just how is it compared to kubuntu?
[06:15] <Pollywog> I don't know yet since I am new
[06:15] <Pollywog> but Linux seems to have more software
[06:15] <icecruncher> np
[06:15] <Pollywog> that could be just because I am new
[06:15] <Pazy> Damn, the guy who was helping me has quit :(
[06:15] <Pazy> Back soon
[06:16] <Pollywog> PC-BSD installs as easily as Linspire or Xandros
[06:16] <icecruncher> Pollywog: freebad is nice too, bit more on options
[06:16] <Pollywog> freebad?
[06:17] <Pollywog> never heard of that one
[06:17] <icecruncher> Pollywog: bsd
[06:17] <icecruncher> sorry
[06:17] <Pollywog> I have that
[06:17] <Pollywog> a very tedious install
[06:17] <dr_willis> BeOS
[06:17] <icecruncher> me to, not installed
[06:17] <dr_willis> CP/M , Minix
[06:17] <dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:17] <Pollywog> and I am compiling xorg and it has taken 24+ hrs and is still going, like a Gentoo
[06:18] <icecruncher> wow
[06:18] <icecruncher> g2g
[06:18] <icecruncher> l8er
[06:18] <Pollywog> installing packages is gast
[06:18] <Pollywog> fast
[06:18] <Pollywog> ports slow
[06:20] <Stonki> hello, quick question. I am normally using Gentoo, but installed now for the first time Kubuntu on a notebook. I can ping test.site (any given website), I can access it via "w3m http://test.site", but konqueror says that it can not access it. Any ideas ?
[06:21] <adam__> hi
[06:21] <underdog5004> hi!
[06:22] <adam__> I just installed KDM Theme Manager, but I can't find it. How do I open it? :(
[06:22] <kazoobuntu> Stonki: does retrieval by IP work?, for example http://212.187.153.30/
[06:22] <underdog5004> adam__, try going to system settings, the probably Appearance or Desktop. That should help
[06:25] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:25] <eagles0513875> !kazoobuntu
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kazoobuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:25] <SeanTater> Remember the game where you adjust the speed and angle and fire a missle to a player on the other side of the screen? Is there one of those for Linux?
[06:25] <kazoobuntu> eagles0513875: what would you like to know?
[06:26] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:26] <eagles0513875> i thought it was another kubuntu distro
[06:26] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:26] <kazoobuntu> SeanTater: scorched earth?  Yeah, I've seen a few clones in the repositories, haven't tried em though
[06:26] <kazoobuntu> :)
[06:26] <Stonki> kazoobuntu: no connection in Konqueror, but its working in w3m
[06:26] <ksivaji> sudo apt-get update error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27970/
[06:27] <boggystudios> how do I mount an ntfs partition to where I can write to it, I tried " mount -o rw /dev/hda2 /ntfs " but that didn't work
[06:27] <adam__> I'm inside apperance, also checked Desktop but couldnt find Theme manager maybe I need to restart?
[06:27] <SeanTater> kazoobuntu: thanks!
[06:28] <underdog5004> adam__, h/o let me check my system...
[06:28] <ksivaji> boggystudios  sudo mount /dev/hd /locatio  -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[06:29] <underdog5004> adam__, in appearance, it allows you to choose styles icons, etc, from different themes...
[06:30] <adam__> oh, but if I have a theme I downloaded. where should I put it? so I can choose it
[06:30] <underdog5004> ah
[06:30] <underdog5004> I have no idea, try googling for an answer
[06:32] <kazoobuntu> Stonki: I don't know how curious you are, but you could strace it: strace -o /tmp/strace.out -f konqueror http://212.187.153.30/
[06:32] <metbsd> can i netinstall kubuntu?
[06:32] <boggystudios> ksivaji, that mounted it but it is still read only
[06:33] <Pazy> Back
[06:33] <CaBlGuY> !normalize-audio
[06:33] <ksivaji> boggystudios you need some package  for that
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about normalize-audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm
[06:34] <kazoobuntu> g'bye
[06:34] <ksivaji> !ntfs | boggystudios
[06:34] <ubotu> boggystudios: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:34] <CaBlGuY> ok..  I got Normalize-audio installed but K3b wont allow me to utilize it...  any help?
[06:34] <ksivaji> boggystudios For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <boggystudios> !ntfs-3g
[06:35] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:36] <CaBlGuY> any help with that?
[06:36] <khaije1> i'm looking for something to display my disk activity and some other system stats graphicaly, preferably in a widget. Anyone know of something like this?
[06:36] <ksivaji> adam__  you can download from kde-look.org
[06:37] <CaBlGuY> khaije1,  system monitor
[06:37] <CaBlGuY> it's under system on the task bar..
[06:38] <Pazy> How can i deactive Nvidia (propitory) using recovery thing?
[06:38] <khaije1> CaBlGuY: i'm not sure i know what you mean... are you saying it's a applet?
[06:39] <CaBlGuY> Pazy,  y u trying to deactivate Nvidia?
[06:39] <Pazy> I think its whats causing the desktop/login screen etc. to not load up
[06:39] <starz> gah
[06:39] <starz> well shane2peru and whoever else it wasw
[06:40] <starz> the grub restore through the restore function on the alternate boot disk only looks for whats on the partition that your setting as root
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> khaije1,  just click on the System drop down menu on your task bar..  and then go to administration and it's in there..  System Monitor
[06:40] <starz> it does not do a full scan
[06:40] <starz> =/
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> Pazy,  that's highly unlikely..
[06:40] <shane2peru> starz: bummer, you didn't lose your menu.lst did you?
[06:40] <metbsd> when is kde4 out?
[06:40] <starz> mm
[06:40] <Pazy> True but its all I can think of
[06:41] <metbsd> i can't wait
[06:41] <Wipster> anyone got a way to get the s510 media keys to work with kmix? I press volume up and a box pops up and only goes from 0% - 10% does nothing and mute does nothing either
[06:41] <metbsd> i love kde very much
[06:41] <starz> naw
[06:41] <CaBlGuY> Pazy, what exactly is happening?
[06:41] <khaije1> CaBlGuY: it sounds like you're describing gnome... does what you're describing have a disk activity monitor?
[06:41] <starz> it just reinstalled root and reinitialized the file
[06:41] <wers> how do I convert .flac files to mp3?
[06:41] <starz> mm
[06:41] <shane2peru> starz: search on the www.ubuntuforums.org in the how to's for grub restore using gui
[06:41] <starz> maybe if i moved the menu.1st somewhere else it would generate one
[06:41] <starz> shane2peru, that does the same thing
[06:41] <TeraDyne> CaBlGuY: That's in GNOME, not KDE.
[06:42] <starz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351  <<---
[06:42] <starz> that also does not look through the hdd's
[06:42] <shane2peru> starz: not sure what to tell you, ah, you tried that one?
[06:42] <CaBlGuY> khaije1,  no, not a disk mopnitor dealy but other stuff..  and surely KDE has a system monitor app..
[06:42] <Pazy> Each time i choose kubuntu in the bootloader it shows the logo then a flashing underscore then nothing
[06:42] <wers> how do you convert .flac files to mp3?
[06:42] <TeraDyne> khaije1: KSysGuard is the KDE performance monitor.
[06:42] <shane2peru> starz: yeah, with double hdd setup you are going to have to get in there and edit the grub yourself.
[06:42] <starz> i could theoretically say go to each os on the system and move the menu.1st and regen to get a new one
[06:42] <starz> and then piecemeal those together but
[06:43] <starz> thats 3 boots for something that should be able to be done automagically in any one of em lol
[06:43] <starz> eh brb again sorry
[06:43] <shane2peru> starz: that would be messier than my first suggestion. :)
[06:43] <khaije1> TeraDyne: oh ya... i totally knew that. I was getting so caught up in superkarama i forgot about that
[06:43] <CaBlGuY> Pazy,  so, if it's doing that, how do you log in??
[06:43] <Arwen> wers, first decompress the flac to wav using "flac", then use "lame" to encode it.
[06:43] <khaije1> too bad there aren't more intergrations between ksysgaurd and karama
[06:43] <Pazy> I dont
[06:43] <Arwen> why do you want mp3s? they suck
[06:44] <Pazy> The only thing I can do is choose recovery mode and i get the text based one, but when I type StartX it shows information I dont understand
[06:44] <Arwen> wers, oh yeah, you can make flac output to stdout and pipe that to lame if you want
[06:44] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm  well, I duno then...  sounds like a boot loader issue to me..  not a video driver problem..
[06:44] <wers> Arwen, using "flac?" you mean there is an app named flac?
[06:44] <Arwen> wers, yes. It's the standard flac encoding tool :-)
[06:44] <Arwen> !info flac | wers
[06:44] <ubotu> wers: flac: Free Lossless Audio Codec - command line tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 138 kB, installed size 340 kB
[06:44] <wers> okay.. i'll install it
[06:45] <CaBlGuY> now.   anyone know anything about normalize-audio for K3b..  and why the heck it's not allowin me to useit..
[06:45] <CaBlGuY> :/
[06:45] <Arwen> CaBlGuY, same here, I think it just doesn't detect it proper, you could normalize before burning then?
[06:45] <Pazy> It was working fine for past few days, it only happened after I choose 'full update' from the package managing program thing
[06:45] <shane2peru> starz: if you like trying distros then this web site is for you: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/  doesn't have anything to do with your grub. :)
[06:45] <CaBlGuY> Arwen,  I imagine but, I was kinda hoping to do it on the fly..
[06:46] <Karti> //192.168.1.68/Shared Files/Music /home/jim/lanMusic smbfs fmask=0777,dmask=0777 0 0
[06:46] <Arwen> dunno, I never figured it out either
[06:46] <CaBlGuY> is there a stand alone app for doing that?
[06:46] <Karti> Hi all, just trying to mount a smb file using this file in the /etc/fstab but when I mount -a it says the line has an error. Any ideas?
[06:46] <Karti> //192.168.1.68/Shared Files/Music /home/jim/lanMusic smbfs fmask=0777,dmask=0777 0 0
[06:46] <Arwen> CaBlGuY, for normalizing? yes, normalize-audio
[06:46] <Arwen> or mplayer -vf normalize
[06:47] <CaBlGuY> Arwen, no I mean a stand alone app..  that's the K3b add on dealy..
[06:47] <Arwen> duno
[06:47] <CaBlGuY> hmmm
[06:48] <wers> is there any gui for flac? i think I can't handle flac in the terminal
[06:48] <wers> hehe
[06:48] <Arwen> wers, ..........
[06:49] <Pollywog> I figured out why my FreeBSD rebuild is taking so long, I started the compile while I was still in /usr/ports/
[06:49] <Pollywog> I forgot to cd to /usr/ports/xorg
[06:49] <Arwen> wers. it's not that hard, flac -o output.wav -d file.flac
[06:49] <Pollywog> so I think it will take 2 weeks to build everything again
[06:50] <wers> ok, Arwen, I'll try this thing
[06:50] <Arwen> then "lame -b <bitrate> output.wav output.mp3"
[06:50] <Arwen> ^^
[06:50] <wers> Ohh my gosh.. my nose is bleeding.. this is so geekylicious
[06:50] <Arwen> lol.....
[06:51] <eagles0513875> hey Arwen
[06:51] <Arwen> (I could have told you do to this with mencoder... that would be a bit sadistic though)
[06:51] <vzduch> Arwen: you're being a little too complicated imho... --> 'flac -8 $inputfile(s).wav' is totally enough
[06:51] <Arwen> vzduch, we're decompressing, not compressing
[06:51] <Arwen> because he wants to pass it through lame
[06:51] <eagles0513875> heyn HanzZ
[06:51] <Arwen> (that's what -d does)
[06:51] <vzduch> in this case 'flac --decode $inputfile(s).flac'
[06:52] <Arwen> .............
[06:52] <Arwen> THAT'S WHAT I SAID
[06:52] <ksivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27970/
[06:52] <ksivaji> Arwen can you help me
[06:52] <vzduch> after that 'lame [use whatever options you like here]  $inputfile.wav $outputfile.mp3'
[06:52] <Arwen> ksivaji, no, because you never told me your problem
[06:53] <Arwen> vzduch, THAT'S ALSO WHAT I SAID
[06:53] <ksivaji> Arwen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27970/  i get error when i fetch update
[06:53] <ksivaji> *whenever*
[06:53] <wers> you guys are so cool
[06:54] <Arwen> ksivaji, your sources.list is just plain broken. Go fix it (!source-o-matic). Don't direct questions to me, please.
[06:55] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[06:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:56] <vzduch> ksivaji: import the keys for E17 and use mirrors that are actually online
[06:56] <ksivaji> how to do that
[06:57] <ksivaji> vzduch
[06:57] <Arwen> ksivaji, maybe by reading the instructions? what an original thought!
[06:57] <vzduch> the keys thing should be explained where you found the repo lines for your sources.list
[06:57] <vzduch> as for the other mirrors..
[06:57] <vzduch> !mirrors | ksivaji
[06:57] <ksivaji> vzduch ok
[06:57] <ubotu> ksivaji: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:58] <Latty> Anyone else tried out using Dolphin in Kubuntu? It's a much better file manager than Konqueror IMHO. I've removed Konqueror alltogether.
[06:58] <vzduch> now I go buy me a pack of bread before the shops close in 1 hour's time
[06:58] <vzduch> Latty: never heard of Dolphin.. I use Krusader
[06:58] <wers> should python really be running all the time?
[06:58] <jussi01> !info dophin
[06:58] <ubotu> Package dophin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:59] <TeraDyne> vzduch: It's the new KDE4 file manager.
[06:59] <vzduch> ah
[06:59] <Latty> Yeah, you have to compile from source.
[06:59] <Latty> For me it compiled perfectly with ./configure, make, sudo make install.
[06:59] <Latty> so nothing hard
[06:59] <ubuntu_> what's the difference between primary and logical partition?
[06:59] <Arwen> actually, dolphin is an actual package...
[06:59] <Arwen> apt-get install dolphin
[07:00] <Latty> Arwen: Really? I didn't find it?
[07:00] <Arwen> must be universe?
[07:00] <boggystudios> I am having problems installing ntffs-3g,  I have added the repository to the sources.list and I can download the packages but it won't install for some reason
[07:00] <Latty> Arwen: Nope,I  have universe enabled. Odd.
[07:00] <boggystudios> Is the live cd different from the install version?
[07:01] <TeraDyne> boggystudios: pastebin the errors it give you.
[07:01] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[07:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:01] <CaBlGuY> !dolphin
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <ubuntu_> for swap partitin, should it be primary or logical?
[07:01] <Latty> ubuntu_: Primary.
[07:01] <Arwen> stop asking ubotu about it..
[07:01] <Latty> ubuntu_: USe primary all of the time unless you need a million partitions.
[07:01] <TeraDyne> ubuntu_: Doesn't really matter.
[07:02] <ubuntu_> but what's their difference?
[07:02] <Latty> I forget the exact number, I think it's 4. primaries to a disc. Don't know for sure or where that applies mind.
[07:02] <Arwen> wait a second.... on any hard drive only 3 should be primary, the 4th should be logical
[07:02] <kristina> hi, how do you switch to another user in the konsole?
[07:02] <Arwen> because a disk can only have 4 partitions (real)
[07:02] <Arwen> kristina, su username
[07:03] <Pollywog> yes 4 partitions
[07:03] <ubuntu_> why can't i create one big slice for linux, and put more lables in that slice, just like how they do in bsd
[07:03] <Latty> kristina: Su.
[07:03] <boggystudios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27975/
[07:03] <kristina> Arwen, Latty tnx
[07:03] <Latty> NP
[07:03] <ksivaji> kristina alt+ctrl+backspace and select user
[07:03] <ubuntu_> now if i install something else, i'll have two spare partition one from swap one for root
[07:04] <Arwen> ubuntu_, ........
[07:04] <TeraDyne> boggystudios: why are you running as root?
[07:04] <boggystudios> habit
[07:04] <Arwen> that's why we have logical partitions, they're primary partitions that contain subpartitions
[07:04] <Latty> boggystudios: A really bad one :/
[07:04] <Pollywog> boggystudios: an old Linspire user?
[07:04] <boggystudios> never tried linspire
[07:04] <TeraDyne> boggystudios: Ah, ok. tru running "apt-get install -f"
[07:04] <Latty> Running as root is like running... windows.
[07:04] <Latty> :P
[07:04] <TeraDyne> try*
[07:04] <Pollywog> who else runs as root?
[07:05] <Pollywog> I don't think Xandros did
[07:05] <Pollywog> and Linspire no longer does it
[07:05] <TeraDyne> Pollywog: Freespire used to.
[07:05] <Pollywog> oic
[07:05] <brendonw> not good...
[07:05] <boggystudios> just to be fair I am running off the cd and not an install
[07:05] <Pollywog> oic
[07:06] <Lattyware> boggystudios: Oh, fair enough.
[07:06] <ubuntu_> i'm installing kubuntu now, hope it will succeed
[07:06] <ksivaji> ubuntu_ definitely
[07:06] <boggystudios> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27976/
[07:06] <ubuntu_> cuz last time it failed
[07:07] <ubuntu_> everytime at 65%
[07:07] <Pollywog> because otherwise you might as well call it "Microsoft Linux"  ;)
[07:08] <ubuntu_> i use 200mb for swap, and 18G for root /
[07:08] <ubuntu_> what do you guys think
[07:09] <brendonw> I use 2* ram for swap
[07:09] <TeraDyne> boggystudios: Unfourtunately, I can't help you. It may be that the LiveCD can't do it, though I'm not sure. Anyone have any other ideas?
[07:09] <Arwen> I use 1x RAM
[07:09] <Minataku> I use 2* RAM unless it exceeds 4GB
[07:09] <ksivaji> ubuntu_  i think you must load fuse
[07:09] <ubuntu_> i use 1/5 ram
[07:09] <Arwen> well, using less than your RAM quantity is bad since it breaks hibernate
[07:09] <brendonw> and I use lvm for the rest
[07:10] <ubuntu_> you guys newbie, you don't need that much swap
[07:10] <TeraDyne> I'm currently using 4x RAM. 2GB swap with 512MB RAM
[07:10] <ksivaji> boggystudios  i think you must load fuse
[07:10] <Minataku> Best is 2x RAM unless it exceeds 4GB
[07:10] <boggystudios> this is a 6.06 live cd, do you think that the 7.04 would be able to?
[07:10] <Minataku> Of course, that's on an x86
[07:10] <brendonw> Minataku: you got it...
[07:10] <Arwen> ubuntu_, ....swap isn't "extra ram" it's a cache...
[07:10] <Pollywog> boggystudios: you trying to use encfs?
[07:10] <Minataku> If it's x64, then it's 2x RAM unless it exceeds 64GB
[07:10] <ubuntu_> if you have 2G ram, you probably won't need any swap
[07:10] <Arwen> and having swap >= RAM is important just so you can suspend to swap
[07:10] <Arwen> ubuntu_, FAIL
[07:10] <TeraDyne> boggystudios: Yes, a Fiesty LiveCD might have a better chance at makign it work.
[07:11] <Arwen> FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL
[07:11] <boggystudios> Pollywog: I am trying to rescue some data from an ntfs part to another ntfs part
[07:11] <Pollywog> oic
[07:11] <ubuntu_> so swap is for machine suspending?
[07:11] <Minataku> !pastebin
[07:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:11] <ubuntu_> if i have 200MB swap i won't be able to put machine to swap?
[07:12] <Arwen> ubuntu_, no, you won't
[07:12] <brendonw> Arwen: swap isn't technically cache, its more page space
[07:12] <Arwen> because you can't stuff 2GB in 200MB
[07:12] <Pollywog> boggystudios: you might try the Linux Rescue CD
[07:12] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu_: it's not just for machine suspending. It's primarily used as a backup for main RAM.
[07:12] <Pollywog> the one that uses Gentoo
[07:12] <jhutchins_lt> boggystudios: There's something called system rescue CD, it has a program that I think is called ntfsclone
[07:12] <jhutchins_lt> Pollywog: THat's the one.
[07:12] <Pollywog> yes that's it
[07:12] <TeraDyne> Anyone know how to fix this error? (next line)
[07:12] <boggystudios> where can I find it?
[07:12] <TeraDyne> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[07:12] <Pollywog> System Rescue CD is the name
[07:12] <Pollywog> google for it
[07:13] <boggystudios> sweet
[07:13] <Pollywog> and download an ido
[07:13] <boggystudios> thanks guys
[07:13] <brendonw> ubuntu_: SWAP is where the OS can put stuff that it doesn't need right now.  And it gets used for suspend, etc
[07:13] <Pollywog> iso
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> boggystudios: Hang on a sec, I have the ISO, let me find the URL for ya.
[07:13] <jussi01> hmmm, what other native web browsers are there for kubuntu? besides konquerer of course
[07:13] <Pollywog> sysreccd.org I think
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> boggystudios: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:13] <Pollywog> sysresccd.org
[07:13] <ubuntu_> so i have 700 mb ram, and 200 mb swap, will i be able to suspend, if not, why not
[07:13] <Arwen> ......
[07:14] <brendonw> jussi01: firefox, opera, and many others.  What are you looking for?
[07:14] <Pollywog> what troll?
[07:14] <jussi01> brendonw: no, im after native, ie. not gtk...
[07:14] <Minataku> With 700MB RAM you definitely want... well you really want to see where the missing RAM is, but to the point you want 1400MB swap
[07:15] <brendonw> jussi01: I guess I don't understand what you mean by native?
[07:15] <TeraDyne> jussi01: I don't think there are any others. I belive you can make a QT build of SeaMonkey and Firefox by compiling it, but I seem to remember it being considered experimental.
[07:15] <sweettooth> hi, i have a slight problem with amarok, i have a recorded audio clip to listen which is over an hour (in mp3 format). It showed the duration was 1:00:03 but when i played it, it played welll beyond the stated duration, e.g. Length 1:13:24 / 1.00:03
[07:15] <sweettooth> any idea if its a bug or anything else?
[07:15] <jhutchins_lt> Some people suggest that anything beyond 1MB swap isn't worth while because of the IO delays.
[07:15] <jussi01> TeraDyne: thanks, I hadnt heard of any, but I wanted to make sure
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> sweettooth: That's a known problem with mp3's, the length shown is just a data field within the file, and it can be inaccurate.
[07:16] <brendonw> jhutchins_lt: 1MB?  Thats just crazy.
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> sweettooth: iirc, there's a utility to automatically repair the length.
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> sweettooth: Many of the tools like audacity can do that too.
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> sweettooth: Might even be a plugin for amarok.
[07:17] <ubuntu_> the installation is succeeding
[07:17] <jhutchins_lt> brendonw: You're right, 1,000MB (1GB).
[07:17] <boggystudios> afk
[07:17] <sweettooth> jhutchins_lt, ic, the time was correct when i was using winamp (M$) heh
[07:17] <ubuntu_> so i only have 200mb swap, am i in deep shit?
[07:18] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt:  I thought 1,024 MB was 1GB...
[07:18] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: Not really, you can run without any swap at all.
[07:18] <sweettooth> jhutchins_lt, anyway i will have a look and see if it can be repaired
[07:18] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: Depends on who's counting.
[07:18] <sweettooth> cheers
[07:18] <matthew__> ubuntu_, I like to have at least my amount of ram in swap
[07:18] <ubuntu_> i can even  suspend machine with 200mb swap?
[07:18] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: The rule I know is 2x physical RAM up to 1GB.
[07:18] <Arwen> not having swap isn't 3vil, it's just not smart
[07:18] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: Ah.
[07:19] <Arwen> ubuntu_, you can't suspend to disk, but you can still suspend to RAM
[07:19] <ubuntu_> i feel big swap is a waste, when i do top in bsd, i hardly see antying using swap
[07:19] <Arwen> (suspend to disk is useful if you end up in a blackout and on UPS)
[07:19] <ubuntu_> my installation succeeded
[07:19] <ubuntu_> :)
[07:19] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Or if you use a laptop.
[07:19] <brendonw> ubuntu_ If you don't want to suspend to disk, then it won't be a problem.
[07:19] <jhutchins_lt> When you start using swap actively it's a real pain, it slows the system down enough to essentially make it unusable.
[07:20] <ubuntu_> i probably want to suspend and power off
[07:20] <jhutchins_lt> I had an old laptop that would do that if I forgot and got impatient, opened too many things at once.
[07:20] <ubuntu_> and next time pick it up
[07:20] <brendonw> then you need swap == ram
[07:20] <ubuntu_> what if i have swap<ram and put suspend
[07:20] <Minataku> http://pastebin.ca/597496 << Who wants to see one of my SGI machines? :3
[07:20] <ubuntu_> will it crash?
[07:21] <Arwen> WHEN YOU USE LINUX, YOU INFRINGE 300 MS PATENTS
[07:21] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: What was that about trolls?
[07:21] <ubuntu_> i have a feeling kubuntu will be the 2nd best desktop
[07:21] <brendonw> Oh, Arwen was the troll
[07:22] <brendonw> Minataku: I used to work on one of those!
[07:22] <Arwen> Minataku, eh... 75MHz?
[07:22] <brendonw> Yes, he got the fast one
[07:22] <Minataku> It's a prototype SGI POWER Indigo2
[07:23] <matthew__> can an op please kick underdog5004? that's my username, but I had to reboot, and now I'm stuck as matthew__
[07:23] <ubuntu_> hehe
[07:23] <ubuntu_> socialize with nickserv for that
[07:23] <Minataku> Or wait
[07:23] <matthew__> I can't. I did /msg nickserv identify <password>
[07:23] <matthew__> didn't help
[07:24] <Minataku> BTW: Kicking only removes a client from the channel
[07:24] <Minataku> Try "ghost" instead
[07:24] <matthew__> I also did /nick underdog5004
[07:24] <ubuntu_> there are "recover and release"
[07:24] <matthew__> ghost?
[07:24] <brendonw> you want /msg nickserv help  and look for recover and release
[07:24] <matthew__> ah
[07:24] <ubuntu_> do you ever read
[07:24] <ubuntu_> quick take that nick!
[07:24] <underdog5004> ah
[07:24] <underdog5004> tyvm
[07:25] <N00nESIC> hello guys
[07:25] <ubuntu_> so i want to install many many things to kubuntu
[07:25] <brendonw> ubuntu_: not while I'm typing :)
[07:25] <ubuntu_> what?
[07:25] <N00nESIC> is somebody here skilled by copyright, etc?
[07:26] <N00nESIC> sorry for bad english im german ^.^
[07:26] <N00nESIC> i would like to register kubuntu-blog.cn
[07:26] <ubuntu_> it's ok, my englsih is bad too
[07:26] <ubuntu_> wait, are you german in dong guan?
[07:26] <N00nESIC> O.o no
[07:26] <Pollywog> Arwen is it up to 300 now?  I thought it was 235 and if I understood correctly, not all of those relate to the kernel but to other software that is used with Linux
[07:27] <Arwen> dunno, I was just making up a number, I thought it was 300, but 235 sounds more right
[07:27] <Pollywog> well MS should feel honored  ;)
[07:27] <Minataku> !de | N00nESIC
[07:27] <ubotu> N00nESIC: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:27] <TeraDyne> XD
[07:28] <N00nESIC> ok my question: Is it problematic to register "Kubuntu-Blog.cn"? Because Kubuntu is a trademark of Canonical Ltd
[07:28] <brendonw> ubuntu_: I don't read while typing, in response to your question "do you ever read"
[07:28] <N00nESIC> xD
[07:28] <N00nESIC> ok thx guys
[07:28] <N00nESIC> cya
[07:28] <ubuntu_> that was long long time ago
[07:29] <ubuntu_> 94% of installation
[07:29] <Pollywog> I don't even see what ubuntu_ is posting
[07:29] <ubuntu_> wow
[07:29] <ubuntu_> done
[07:36] <necro> i have so many to upgrade
[07:36] <necro> need to download 101M
[07:36] <andrew_> hello
[07:37] <brendonw> hello
[07:41] <necro> how do i install mp3 support for amarok?
[07:41] <vzduch> !codecs | necro
[07:41] <ubotu> necro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:49] <TeraDyne> necro: the package you need is "libxine1-ffmpeg"
[07:50] <leks> hello everybody
[07:50] <etalli> Hello everyone!  Why are we not allowed to put colors in?
[07:50] <leks> i have strange problem
[07:50] <TeraDyne> etalli: Probably because it could annoy some people.
[07:51] <etalli> OK, I don't know how to use colors anyway, so it doesn't matter to me. :)
[07:51] <leks> when opening add/remove programs window, and type correct password i am able to browse all installed programs
[07:51] <OutoLumo> Hih, all!
[07:52] <leks> but when i want to install something, i cannot tick the checkbox and all not-installed programs are gray
[07:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> yep
[07:55] <starz> eh back
[07:55] <starz> sigh
[07:57] <yourfriend> out devil >> lol
[07:57] <jhutchins_lt> leks: What happens if you do sudo apt-get update in a console?
[07:58] <yourfriend> yes
[07:58] <yourfriend> leks - is this a brand new install? without any patches?
[07:58] <etalli> jhutchins_lt:  it updates the package listing
[07:58] <etalli> Oh, nevermind.  Sorry
[07:59] <etalli> That was a helping question, not a I need help question.
[08:01] <leks> yourfriend: it's a polish version downloaded from official website with any changes
[08:01] <BluesKaj> leks, alt+f2, type kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list , then look for source addresses starting with 'deb' tke the # out from the beginning of these adresses , these are your sources that automatically #commented out due to legal reasons in the US mostly.
[08:01] <yourfriend> leks -- do a sudo apt-get update
[08:01] <yourfriend> leks -- then ... sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:01] <leks> in progress..
[08:01] <yourfriend> leks -- make sure and do the upgrade after the update
[08:02] <leks> i opend "administrator termina" - dont need to use sude command ;)
[08:02] <yourfriend> k
[08:02] <yourfriend> great
[08:02] <leks> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:02] <yourfriend> leks -- you have a previously running instance of apt-get or adept
[08:02] <BluesKaj> not necessary to an 'upgrade 'yourfriend , just an update will suffice for now
[08:03] <BluesKaj> yes , leks close adept or apt in the konsole first , then try again
[08:04] <yourfriend> bluesjay - yes he didn't patch anything yet ... its a fresh install
[08:04] <yourfriend> leks - or use pkill adept
[08:04] <BluesKaj> lets noy get ahead of ourselves , no need to confuse the issue
[08:04] <leks> ok all done
[08:04] <yourfriend> blueskaj -- thats what YOU are doing
[08:04] <yourfriend> lol
[08:05] <leks> i just had to close the add/erase window;)
[08:05] <yourfriend> leks - try it now apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[08:05] <leks> the problem fixed
[08:05] <leks> thank you very much
[08:05] <yourfriend> leks - yw
[08:05] <leks> now gotta go
[08:05] <leks> cheers
[08:06] <yourfriend> take care cheerz
[08:07] <BluesKaj> yourfriend, he'll upgrade when he's ready to...don't just tell ppl to upgrade cuz you think they need to do so.
[08:07] <yourfriend> blueskaj -- ugh. patching is not a big issue. I have had not issue
[08:08] <yourfriend> blueskaj - patching in actually very important
[08:09] <yourfriend> blueskaj - bugs are often fixed in ... um patches
[08:09] <yourfriend> lol
[08:10] <BluesKaj> when he needs apps , he'll find out about the upgrade ...we like to tell ppl why they need to do certain things , not just tell them to
[08:11] <yourfriend> blueskaj - are you the admin here?  what do you mean by "we"
[08:11] <BluesKaj> the regulars here
[08:11] <yourfriend> blueskaj - oh please.
[08:12] <yourfriend> blueskaj - grow up
[08:12] <starz> o shush both u
[08:12] <BluesKaj> <-- not admin
[08:12] <starz> and yourfriend just add a disclaimer
[08:12] <starz> ok great
[08:12] <innovati> salut!
[08:12] <yourfriend> rgr
[08:12] <yourfriend> I agree w/ starz
[08:12] <yourfriend> discussion over
[08:13] <starz> !worksforme
[08:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:13] <starz> :P
[08:13] <starz> right
[08:13] <starz> so then anyone know how to build install cd's around here?
[08:13] <BluesKaj> starz , don't shush ppl , i was merely explaining to "yourfriend' how ppl like to be treated
[08:13] <starz> i understand your trying really hard to make 'me' statements BluesKaj and frankly i dont care about this whole thing
[08:14] <starz> yall got 350 ppl in here more or less and have 3 times the arguing as the main chan
[08:14] <starz> lol
[08:14] <BluesKaj> then why did you shush ?
[08:14] <TeraDyne> starz: by build install cds, do you mean like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[08:14] <yourfriend> Blueskaj - relax man its no biggie
[08:15] <starz> TeraDyne, lets see :P
[08:15] <yourfriend> Blueskaj - =)
[08:15] <BluesKaj> no arguing , just a discussion about civility to ppl who trying to learn
[08:15] <yourfriend> YES!
[08:15] <starz> i just want from begining to partition manager then shortcut it to grub no actual installing
[08:15] <yourfriend> Bingo!
[08:16] <starz> BlueDevil, because you seemed to me to be doing the same thing you were chiding
[08:16] <starz> i.e, making the place look bad
[08:16] <starz> w/e i dont care both yall do what cha want ok?
[08:16] <starz> great ^^
[08:17] <BluesKaj> aw boohoo starz
[08:17] <BluesKaj> :)
[08:19] <starz> what
[08:19] <starz> i dont feel like arguing sorry
[08:19] <starz> ;p
[08:21] <wimpies> can anybody explain why my KDE print dialog does not allow me to set the page orientation ?
[08:21] <llp78> I have decided to wipe the window install hd - i have mounted the drive - whats the best way to wipe it ?
[08:22] <yourfriend> llp78 >> when you go to do and install choose to format the entire disk
[08:22] <yourfriend> llp78 >> You DO have a backup of your data eh?
[08:22] <BluesKaj> llp78, are you absolutely sure you want to wipe windows ?
[08:23] <llp78> i dont want a backup of my windows drive - i just want a clean NTFS drive
[08:23] <llp78> Yep -
[08:23] <BluesKaj> windows is ntfs
[08:23] <yourfriend> llp78 - not windows.. your data silly
[08:23] <starz> llp78 you know ntfs-3g is still beta right?
[08:23] <llp78> starz: works ok here
[08:23] <starz> i mean its in there pretty good and works decently but its still not that hard to break it
[08:23] <llp78> never had any problems
[08:23] <starz> heh
[08:23] <jussi01> !worksforme
[08:23] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:23] <starz> yup
[08:23] <yourfriend> starz - it works handsomely for me =)
[08:24] <starz> congrats ^^
[08:24] <starz> os[Linux 2.6.17-11-386 - Debian testing/unstable - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )]  | up[3 hours, 33 minutes]  | cpu[AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, 1665.601 MHz (3334.16 bogomips) at 40.0C]  | chipset[VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge]  | video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 (rev a1) at 1600x1200 (32 bits)]  | opengl[GeForce 6200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! powered by NVIDIA Corporation with driver 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.76]  | xchat[Version: 2.4.5
[08:24] <starz> ]  | [sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46] 
[08:24] <starz> works super here mostly
[08:24] <yourfriend> whoa!
[08:24] <starz> but some directories when i delete them dont delete
[08:24] <yourfriend> starz - mostly is the key word there. =P
[08:24] <starz> the files go and it leaves a .something-orother5464654646 file in it
[08:24] <llp78> yep i have had that prob before
[08:24] <BluesKaj> ntfs-3g works ok on most dual boot setups
[08:24] <starz> i probably need to recompile from souce
[08:25] <starz> *source
[08:25] <BluesKaj> llp78, do you have kubuntu installed or are you on a live cd
[08:25] <llp78> installed
[08:27] <BluesKaj> ok DL GParted partiton editor live cd , it works well and is easy to use , it will delete the ntfs partition for you and then you can expand your ext-kubuntu into the free space.
[08:28] <llp78> BluesKaj: hey thanks for your help -
[08:28] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: Wouldn't QTparted be a better looking option for Kubuntu?
[08:28] <llp78> i may be back
[08:28] <jussi01> TeraDyne: I feel qtparted is not as stable...
[08:28] <BluesKaj> no TeraDyne , qtparted is buggy on some setups
[08:28] <jussi01> but thats just me...
[08:28] <llp78> can i run either from within kubuntu
[08:28] <yourfriend> yes
[08:28] <llp78> or do i have to run from a live cd ?
[08:29] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj, jussi01: Ah. Ok. Never had any problems myself, so I didn't know that.
[08:29] <BluesKaj> you really should run the live cd llp78
[08:29] <jussi01> TeraDyne: :)
[08:29] <BluesKaj> it's much safer, llp78
[08:30] <Jack3_> does ubuntu have a sound recorder
[08:30] <Jack3_> like for mics
[08:30] <BluesKaj> audac, Jack3_
[08:31] <BluesKaj> audacity
[08:32] <yourfriend> gotta love audacity =)
[08:32] <yourfriend> its great
[08:33] <BluesKaj> yup, transferred some vinyl to cd for my car with audacity ...nice program
[08:33] <jussi01> or for more advanced stuff, ardour
[08:33] <yourfriend> sweet
[08:34] <yourfriend> blueskaj -- records what are those?  lol
[08:34] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: Don't forget Jokosher.
[08:35] <yourfriend> ugh. is that Jono. jk
[08:35] <BluesKaj> nero stole it for their version ,sountrakz or whatever they callit
[08:35] <michael> do they have a sound record for mics in kunbunt?
[08:35] <TeraDyne> No, but it is an option. A rather horrid option, but an option nevertheless.
[08:35] <jussi01> ardour2 is very nice...
[08:36] <TeraDyne> that was at yourfriend.
[08:36] <BluesKaj> audacity works on mic inputs too
[08:36] <yourfriend> tera - lol
[08:36] <BluesKaj> jokosher ? TeraDyne
[08:37] <anirudh> hello everyone!
[08:37] <yourfriend> hello
[08:37] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: http://www.jokosher.org/
[08:37] <OutoLumo> Any idea if the qt4.3 will be backported to feisty?
[08:37] <anirudh> i need help here with configuring kubuntu............i am new to kubuntu.,,,,,,,,
[08:37] <user_> hoi hoi
[08:38] <OutoLumo> anirudh, what sort of help?
[08:38] <anirudh> how do i configure sound ( its not working ) on a think pad R60?
[08:38] <anirudh> voulume control is fine
[08:39] <anirudh> but i do not hear sound
[08:40] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (192.168.1.150). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[08:40] <NickPresta> he computer restarts. I was told to do `route -n` before I re-enable any connections and when I do that, it returns blank. Any ideas?
[08:42] <OutoLumo> anirudh, have you disabled the modem from BIOS?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> anirudh, open Kmix and make sure  your input and output levels ctrls are turned up, IEC958 an Mix switches on
[08:42] <anirudh> no
[08:42] <tinin> HI, how do i navigate through the shared folders i've got in another ubuntu pc
[08:42] <tinin> ?
[08:43] <OutoLumo> anirudh, In http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.06.1_on_a_ThinkPad_R60e  there's a mention that that have to do with it.
[08:43] <yourfriend> later everyone
[08:43] <yourfriend> have a great weekend
[08:43] <TeraDyne> In most laptops, the "External Amplifier" option needs to be turned off in KMix
[08:43] <BluesKaj> later yourfriend
[08:46] <OutoLumo> anirudh, what do you do such that it should produce sound?
[08:47] <anirudh> i play a video file............
[08:47] <BluesKaj> tinin, what client/app are you using to connect thru your network?
[08:47] <anirudh> give a moment guys, i will shutdown and check with BIOS>modem status.........
[08:47] <jhutchins_lt> NickPresta: I would go in and delete all of your configured interfaces then restart and see what you have.  Do you actually have two network cards?
[08:47] <OutoLumo> anirudh, how about playing an audio file?
[08:48] <OutoLumo> anirudh, and using which program?
[08:48] <BluesKaj> anirudh, i don't think that BIOS suggestion wasto you
[08:49] <BluesKaj> amarok is a good audio player
[08:50] <nedde> Hey guys, I need help with loading the kernel module vmmon, here is my error: Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory.
[08:50] <nedde> Please make sure that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded.
[08:50] <vzduch> BluesKaj: I prefer Audacious
[08:50] <tinin> BluesKaj that's what i don't know ;)
[08:51] <tinin> wich program should i use?
[08:51] <tinin> to browse throgh shares
[08:51] <TeraDyne> tinin: Konqueror is always a good choice.
[08:51] <user_> ll
[08:52] <BluesKaj> i use samba, but it's mainly used to connect on windows and linux pcs on the network
[08:52] <tinin> and where should i find what is on the other pc?
[08:52] <BluesKaj> !networking
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <anirudh> just opened a mp3 file with Amarok
[08:53] <BluesKaj> !dumbots :)
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumbots :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <TeraDyne> XD
[08:53] <NickPresta> jhutchins, I am using the onboard interfaces (ASUS M2N-SLI motherboard). Those are eth2 and eth3. I don't physically change the device (I don't unplug the cord and switch) so I don't know why it would be switched. I manually edited /etc/network/interfaces and set eth3 to auto with a dhcp connection. I'll see how that goes when I restart. Thanks for the tip. I will try it next.
[08:54] <rathel> What command would I use to get information on a media file? Like what codecs is it using etc.
[08:54] <tinin> i've got 2 pc, mine with kubuntu and my mother with xubuntu conected to the same router, how could i share folders between them?
[08:55] <anirudh> first time it said it wanted to install mp3 player support............after installation there was some error message that packages wre not downloaded properly or something like that...........however i restarted amarok and got a message saying install mp3 support again............i giuesss i'll go back to BIOS settings............give me momemnt..........b back soon...........thanks for the help.........
[08:55] <Ace2016> Hi all
[08:55] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, titin needs your expertise
[08:56] <BluesKaj> err tinin does
[08:56] <Ace2016> can someone help me alter the length of the input form <input value="search" onfocus="if (this.value == 'search') {this.value = '';}" onblur="if (this.value == '') {this.value = 'search';}" size="15" maxlength="50" name="s" id="s">
[08:56] <Ace2016> Thats the code that makes the box up
[08:57] <Ace2016> i want it to be exactly 214 pixels long
[08:57] <NickPresta> Ace2016, that would be better on the HTML or JavaScript channel. I don't see how this is related to Kubuntu
[08:57] <Ace2016> and 22 pixels high
[08:57] <Ace2016> woops
[08:57] <Ace2016> i thought i was talking in #web, sorry
[08:57] <NickPresta> heh. No problem. Happens to the best of us
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> hey can someone help me hide a body?
[08:58] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, hide it in /dev/null. No one will ever find it!
[08:59] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, yer on yer own on thatrtask
[08:59] <Ace2016> lol
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm sorry, i can't finish that joke.  my conscience won't let me, it's in extremely poor taste :(
[08:59] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, you could always do this too: body { display: none; }. That would hide it pretty well, depending on which body you're taking about ;)
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> not quite.  i was going to make a reiser joke, but it might still be too soon :\
[09:01] <tinin> look.bin
[09:01] <BluesKaj> what networking setup is best for a linux network ?
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> token ring
[09:02] <Ace2016> linux > router > internet or rest of network
[09:02] <BluesKaj> tinin is looking for a solution for his linux networking problem
[09:02] <tinin> BluesKaj thax
[09:02] <tinin> XD
[09:03] <BluesKaj> np, tinin , we're here to help
[09:04] <dhq__> how do i find a file in console
[09:04] <Ace2016> locate filename
[09:04] <dhq__> i use "ls|grep <filename>"
[09:05] <dhq__> but doesnt work
[09:05] <tinin> I think i've coonfigured well the xubuntu pc to share some folder, but where should they be in konqueror now?
[09:05] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, token ring ?
[09:05] <manu_> hi
[09:05] <Ace2016> try ls | grep part_of_filename
[09:05] <manu_> i made a avi video of png images with mencoder
[09:05] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: ancient and ineffective network technology
[09:06] <BluesKaj> hehe
[09:06] <manu_> now i want to convert it to an flv file, but mencoder makes a no-working file because of "b-frames"
[09:06] <manu_> someone can help? png avi with alpha to a flash file?
[09:06] <manu_> :(
[09:06] <BluesKaj> manu_, dunno , maybe avidemux ?
[09:07] <manu_> BluesKaj: hm normally it shall work with mencoder i think, but i'm not a mplayer/mencoder crack, how would you solve it?
[09:07] <manu_> i just copied some code of a website
[09:08] <Evolution2> i just reinstalled windows from my back up CD that i received from Dell but i have no drivers installed for speakers/internet/wifi/stand-by/hib. can someone help me i heard that they are on the cd you just have to find them.
[09:08] <BluesKaj> manu_, trying to make avi > flash ?
[09:09] <manu_> BluesKaj: exactly
[09:09] <BluesKaj> why flash ?
[09:10] <BluesKaj> manu_, upload it to a website ?
[09:10] <manu_> BluesKaj: cause i need it for the internet, and yes i know all the bad things about flash but thats the only way
[09:10] <manu_> i need it for a part of a header
[09:11] <BluesKaj> most sites will convert mpeg or avi's to flash or whatever codec they use ..i quite sure that's what youtube does
[09:12] <alen> i have a problem with console instalation
[09:12] <alen> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[09:12] <alen> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[09:12] <alen> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[09:12] <manu_> BluesKaj: hm i have no account and i only want it for my own site, but i'm interessted if thres a way to do it so
[09:13] <alen> please help
[09:14] <anirudh> hi again guys!
[09:15] <anirudh> the sound is working alright
[09:15] <anirudh> i could hear the music
[09:15] <anirudh> however there is a continous loud beep tha tis beingproduced
[09:15] <BluesKaj> manu_, can't seem to find anything that's free
[09:15] <anirudh> i enabled the modem at the bios
[09:15] <anirudh> to start the sound
[09:15] <BluesKaj> you have a mic hooked up , anirudh?
[09:16] <anirudh> the laptop has a built in mic
[09:17] <BluesKaj> mic could be feeding back from your speakers
[09:17] <manu_> BluesKaj: hm and my aim would be a program for linux and it would be great if mencoder can solve it flv to avi works
[09:17] <manu_> :/
[09:18] <BluesKaj> turn the mic input off or right down
[09:18] <anirudh> yeah right thnx BluesKaj
[09:18] <anirudh> turned the mic off
[09:18] <anirudh> :)
[09:18] <BluesKaj> help?
[09:18] <anirudh> sounds working great
[09:18] <BluesKaj> ok good anirudh
[09:18] <anirudh> yeah and also i needed help on other issues............
[09:19] <anirudh> when i shut down the system
[09:19] <anirudh> the system does not shut down at all
[09:19] <anirudh> the screen starts going crazy
[09:20] <anirudh> it start gradually whitening
[09:21] <anirudh> and how do add a "desktop "shortcut to the panel?
[09:22] <BluesKaj> desktop or just an app?
[09:23] <anirudh> desktop
[09:25] <BluesKaj> sorry anirudh, i don't understand , why would you want a desktop shortcut in the panel ...the desktop is right in front of you , or you just could change desktops temporairily without minimizing and open programs
[09:26] <anirudh> i just have one desktop...........
[09:26] <anirudh> disabled the rest
[09:26] <anirudh> guess being new to linux
[09:26] <anirudh> i want it to e as close to Windows
[09:26] <anirudh> as possible
[09:27] <anirudh> like the windows quick launch ...........
[09:27] <BluesKaj> you can enable desktops in system settings/desktop/multiple desktops
[09:27] <Tyler_d> help!
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> if you right-click the panel you can add a Show Desktop app
[09:28] <Tyler_d> can't surf with konquer
[09:28] <anirudh> ok
[09:28] <Tyler_d> Can anybody help me ?
[09:28] <kristof78> hi
[09:28] <Tyler_d> hi k78.
[09:29] <anirudh> so i hope adding extra desktop doesnt increase computing power consumption?
[09:29] <Tyler_d> can anybody help me  ? I can't surf with konquer
[09:30] <BluesKaj> does it open at all , Tyler_d ?
[09:30] <Tyler_d> it's open
[09:30] <Tyler_d> but An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[09:30] <Tyler_d> I can chat with irc but surf with konquer.
[09:30] <BluesKaj> what happens when you type an address ?
[09:31] <Tyler_d> ip address?
[09:31] <BluesKaj> www address
[09:31] <Tyler_d> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[09:31] <Tyler_d> >>> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[09:32] <Tyler_d> so url are resolved correctly
[09:32] <Tyler_d> but konquer wont surf.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> oh you can't surf from the irc client ...is that it
[09:32] <BluesKaj> ?
[09:33] <Tyler_d> no
[09:33] <Tyler_d> I can connect to ircd
[09:33] <Tyler_d> so network works fine
[09:33] <Tyler_d> konquer does not work.
[09:34] <kristof78> do you try with Firefox ?
[09:34] <Tyler_d> It's a fresh installation, I Can't find it.
[09:35] <kristof78> you can install it with adept
[09:35] <Tyler_d> how ?
[09:35] <Reggie> I'm trying to install madwifi so I could use my wireless card with kubuntu, but I have to do whole installation process online, and I have problem with that...
[09:35] <Tyler_d> I have it open
[09:35] <Tyler_d> firefox is gray and I can't select it.
[09:36] <Tyler_d> Reggie  do you have the same problem?
[09:36] <TeraDyne> sudo apt-get install firefox << Use that in a terminal
[09:36] <Tyler_d> I'm going to do it...
[09:36] <Reggie> Hm? No, I just don't have internet connection on kubuntu
[09:36] <Reggie> because I need madwifi first
[09:36] <Reggie> lol
[09:37] <TeraDyne> @ Tyler
[09:48] <zzerzzer> i need help
[09:48] <Reggie> with?
[09:49] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, so do I, but not technical ;-)
[09:49] <zzerzzer> im using kubuntu dapper drake, and i need a c++ compiler to install, preferebly with an graphical environment
[09:51] <Reggie> Kdevelop or something should be what you're looking for... I think ;)
[09:51] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, c++ compiler: gpp. Graphical ide: KDevelop. Install: aptitude
[09:53] <TeraDyne> OutoLumo_: I thought the C++ compiler was g++, not gpp.
[09:53] <OutoLumo_> TeraDyne, you are right.
[09:54] <TeraDyne> OutoLumo_: I thought so. You had me woried for a moment, though.
[09:54] <zzerzzer> oh im back, im super new to linux, so g++ is what i should go look for?
[09:55] <OutoLumo_> Anyhow, I recommend installing build-essential package. It draws g++, among others.
[09:55] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: "sudo aptitude install kdevelop build-essential
[09:55] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: is the command you need to put into a terminal window to get what you need. Minus the rouge quote mark, though.
[09:56] <TeraDyne> I'm starting to hate this laptop keyboard more than usual.
[09:56] <zzerzzer> ok thanks, what about adept though, wouldnt adept work?
[09:56] <OutoLumo_> TeraDyne, I know the feeling... That's why I'm using external ;-)
[09:56] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: Yes. Just search for "build-essential" and "kdevelop".
[09:57] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, sure it would: just install kdevelop and build-essential with that.
[09:57] <TeraDyne> OutoLumo_: I'm either too busy or too lazy to get my other USB keyboard out, depending on what time it is.
[09:57] <anirudh__> i installed certain packages from Adept Manager..................Where is the program installed? how do i make the application downloaded work?
[09:58] <TeraDyne> anirudh__: usually, there is an entry in your K Menu for downloaded programs. If not, you usually just type in the name of the app in a terminal, like console.
[09:58] <OutoLumo_> build-essential draws g++, gcc, make, libc6-dev and dpkg-dev. The last one you are not likely to need, but it's a handy metapackage :-)
[10:00] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, you can also press Alt+F2 and enter the programs name there.
[10:00] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: Oh, and if you want to develop for a certian toolkit, like GTK or KDE\QT, you might need the development libraries for that toolkit.
[10:02] <zzerzzer> i want to develop with the torque game engine
[10:03] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, can  you give a link to that?
[10:03] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: Never heard of it, so I can't help there.
[10:03] <zzerzzer> just look up the torque game engine in goolge
[10:03] <zzerzzer> ill get the link if you need me to
[10:04] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, well, I guess it's enouh that you put the libs and headers in place :-)
[10:04] <zzerzzer> http://www.garagegames.com/
[10:04] <zzerzzer> http://www.garagegames.com/
[10:05] <kristof78> hi
[10:05] <OutoLumo_> hi, kristof78
[10:07] <zzerzzer> is the build essential command for after i install KDevelop?
[10:08] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, build-essential is a package that tells the system to install other packages, most of which are very useful for any kind of c++ develpment.
[10:08] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: build-essential is a package name. It'll install all the basic apps you need to compile C or C++ application.
[10:08] <Russian> Hi guys, I have a question, does Kubuntu have XGL?
[10:08] <BluesKaj> zzerzzer, build-essential is required for compiling pkgs from the source
[10:08] <OutoLumo_> On the other hand, torque is a C# -engine...
[10:08] <zzerzzer> i tried the line, and it wouldnt install anything for me
[10:08] <TeraDyne> Russian: not by default
[10:09] <TeraDyne> !xgl | Russian
[10:09] <ubotu> Russian: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:09] <Russian> TeraDyne: what about Ubuntu?
[10:09] <TeraDyne> Russian: nope.
[10:09] <Russian> aah k ty
[10:09] <zzerzzer> torque is c#?
[10:10] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: It looks as though the Torque Game Engine is a propriatary engine that uses it's own toolkit, which it looks like you have to buy.
[10:10] <zzerzzer> yeah but its not that expensive
[10:11] <TeraDyne> It doesn't look like they support Linux, unles sI missed something.
[10:11] <OutoLumo_> Do they ship it for linux?
[10:11] <zzerzzer> i got it working on linux
[10:11] <TeraDyne> With WINE or what?
[10:12] <zzerzzer> i got the demo working just off of opengl, they have a whole linux development forum avenue
[10:12] <TeraDyne> ah, ok. I didn't see that.
[10:12] <zzerzzer> i have to install my new nvidia graphics card, to get the frame rate better then not much
[10:13] <zzerzzer> sudo aptitude install kdevelop build-essential, didnt install KDevelop for me
[10:13] <zzerzzer> ;(
[10:13] <OutoLumo_> zzerzzer, check if you have g++, make and friends already installed.
[10:13] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: hold on.
[10:14] <TeraDyne> !info kdevelop
[10:14] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 8594 kB, installed size 26204 kB
[10:14] <TeraDyne> That explains it. Do you have the universe repositories uncommented?
[10:14] <anirudh__> it does not work..........
[10:15] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, what does not work?
[10:15] <zzerzzer> i may not have all the repositories activated that have the universe word in the list
[10:16] <TeraDyne> !universe | zzerzzer
[10:16] <ubotu> zzerzzer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:16] <TeraDyne> That might help out
[10:17] <jussi01> !doent work
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doent work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <jussi01> !doesnt work
[10:17] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:17] <anirudh__> alt+f2
[10:17] <anirudh__> i entered the program name
[10:17] <anirudh__> anyhow
[10:17] <anirudh__> i searched for the program name
[10:17] <anirudh__> and
[10:17] <TeraDyne> anirudh__: what program is it?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> games bah!! ...buy an Xbox !
[10:17] <anirudh__> tpb
[10:17] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, which program is that?
[10:17] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: or a Wii, like I did.
[10:17] <anirudh__> a program for thinkpand special keys
[10:18] <anirudh__> however i did find a folder
[10:18] <anirudh__> and it had a read me file
[10:18] <TeraDyne> !enter | anirudh__
[10:18] <ubotu> anirudh__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:19] <anirudh__> a couple of commands were contained...........so may be i'll install that later
[10:19] <zzerzzer> the universe repositories gave me the option to grab KDevelop, thanks, ill return when i think im smart
[10:19] <TeraDyne> zzerzzer: XD Ok. Good luck.
[10:20] <anirudh__> Evertime I customize the "View" mode to a "Detailed List View" it resets itself...How do I ensure it does not revert back to default view?
[10:22] <Minataku> http://pastebin.ca/597747 << I added my second Indigo2
[10:22] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:22] <OutoLumo_> I admit, that I am stupid, but how do I set up a programming environment? I mean, how do I tell the complier where to find the libraries...
[10:25] <anirudh__> anyway to make open office launch quicker?
[10:26] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, preload it...
[10:26] <addyk> Hmm if I not wrong... it should run slower the first time.
[10:26] <anirudh__> how do i do that?
[10:27] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, try installing oooqs2-kde
[10:27] <OutoLumo_> (OpenOffice.org quickstart for office version 2, and KDE)
[10:27] <addyk> sudo apt-get install oooqs2-kde ?
[10:27] <xst> After upgrading to Feisty, my .Xresources / .Xdefaults file is not loaded upon login anymore. Why? And how can I fix this?
[10:28] <TeraDyne> OutoLumo_: I didn't know about that little package. That'll come in handy.
[10:28] <dice14u> hey everyone I just updated my kernal and all of a sudden my monitor resolution dropped to 600x480
[10:28] <OutoLumo_> TeraDyne, sometimes I just skim the repos with aptitude :-)
[10:28] <addyk> OK... dice14u go back and edit the xorg.conf file
[10:28] <anirudh__> where do i run that command?
[10:28] <anirudh__> terminal window?
[10:28] <newbe2008> can any1 help me with installing ubuntu on a windows based comp (dual OS)
[10:28] <OutoLumo_> (Though I don't know how handy that is, I don't use it myself)
[10:29] <addyk> dice14u: you need to edit the monitor VertRefresh and HorizSync
[10:29] <dice14u> addyk ok thats what i thought just don't know what to put
[10:29] <addyk> dice14u: pm me..
[10:29] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, terminal window will do fine
[10:29] <TeraDyne> !dualboot | newbe2008
[10:29] <ubotu> newbe2008: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:30] <anirudh__> command not found
[10:30] <dice14u> modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490
[10:30] <addyk> Hmm...
[10:31] <addyk> dice14u: edit the xorg.conf file and add the following lines in the section Monitor
[10:31] <tenerifedave> hello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?
[10:31] <dice14u> can't unregistered nick does not allow /msg
[10:31] <BluesKaj> dice14u, try system settings , monitor&display and check if hardware drivers has changed
[10:31] <Pazy> How do you register for this irc?
[10:32] <TeraDyne> !register | dice14u
[10:32] <ubotu> dice14u: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:32] <dice14u> yeah they have I change them back but the max is 600x480 now
[10:32] <dice14u> it used to be much higher
[10:32] <addyk> dice14u: HorizSync 31.5-50
[10:32] <anirudh__> OutoLumo...........command not found
[10:32] <addyk> dice14u: VertRefresh 50-70
[10:32] <dice14u> i mean like they changed and the problem arose and then i tried to go back but it still didn't change it
[10:32] <dice14u> ok
[10:33] <BluesKaj> you have to use admin mode to change resolution , dice14u
[10:33] <addyk> after that restart X and see what happens :)
[10:33] <addyk> Oh ya...
[10:33] <TeraDyne> anirudh__: "sudo apt-get install oooqs2-kde" doesn't work?
[10:33] <addyk> kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <anirudh__> oops.........i was typing in only ooopqs2 -kde..................will try the whole command..........
[10:34] <dice14u> BluesKaj I know that
[10:34] <TeraDyne> XD
[10:35] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, when telling that "command not found" please specify exactly which command not found... ;-)
[10:35] <anirudh__> Outlomo i was typing only oooqs2 -kde
[10:35] <TeraDyne> anirudh__: Don't worry, I've done stupid things before. Like last night, when I stupidly removed the entire "/var/lib/dpkg" directory
[10:36] <OutoLumo_> anirudh__, and now it is installing :-)
[10:36] <OutoLumo_> TeraDyne, that was a bad one :-)
[10:36] <anirudh__> YUP!
[10:36] <anirudh__> :)
[10:36] <TeraDyne> OutoLumo_: Tell me about it. I ended up reinstalling Kubuntu most of today.
[10:36] <TeraDyne> BBL. Going to go grab something to eat.
[10:37] <anirudh__> TeraDyne, i dont know what /var/lib/dpkg is................but i get the joke :)
[10:38] <dice14u> addyk: I also have two device sections for my video card now
[10:38] <dice14u> with the same bus id
[10:38] <Pazy> How do i log into my registered name?
[10:39] <addyk> Hmm dice14u You should find out which bus id is which and change it accordingly.. :|
[10:40] <anirudh__> TeraDyne, OutoLumo, the OpenOffice Splash Screen still shows up, a takes quite some time........is there anyway to still shorten the startup time? Also how do go to desktop directly
[10:41] <OutoLumo> anirudh__, well, you could tell the system to start OO at startup... But I think that the real problem is, that the program is huge.
[10:41] <OutoLumo> What do you mean "go to desktop directly"
[10:42] <SlimeyPete> anirudh__: right-click the panel, and select Add Applet To Panel - there's a Show Desktop applet
[10:43] <anirudh__> OutoLumo, like in windows.........short cut key to desktopm the Quick Launch bar.............
[10:43] <dice14u> addyk: here is a pastebin of my xorg.conf just edit it accordingly and give me the link
[10:43] <dice14u> http://pastebin.com/9396
[10:43] <BluesKaj> dice14u, are you running 2 graphics cards...if so disabling one in the BIOS peripherals and enabling the one you want should work .
[10:43] <Pazy> I need some help please, I cant get into my Kubuntu. I can get the bootleader screen, a kubuntu logo and then a flashing underscore
[10:44] <SlimeyPete> what happens if you hit alt-f2?
[10:44] <OutoLumo> You mean something to click that you can hide all the windows?
[10:44] <anirudh__> SlimeyPete, thank that was what i was looking for
[10:44] <BluesKaj> anirudh__, this linux not windows... you try it the way it comes first .. it works :)
[10:44] <SlimeyPete> anirudh__: no problem :)
[10:44] <anirudh__> OutoLumo, yes
[10:45] <OutoLumo> anirudh__, there's a kicker applet for that. "Show desktop" or something...
[10:45] <dice14u> addyk what do you think?
[10:46] <addyk> dice14u: I think it's complicated :)) Sorry... so you have two video cards?
[10:46] <dice14u> no
[10:46] <dice14u> just one
[10:46] <dice14u> ati xpress
[10:46] <OutoLumo> Pazy, seems that you have some trouble during the bootup. That's not really a kubuntu-specific issue, as you never get to the desktop.
[10:46] <dice14u> it just on xorg it has a bunch of extra junk
[10:47] <dice14u> I only have one screen as well
[10:47] <SlimeyPete> pazy: what happens if you hit alt-f2?
[10:47] <anirudh__> OutoLomo, thank you i found that! making my desktop as similar as possible to a Windows work enviroment.........been used to it for very long now.....:)
[10:47] <Pazy> Ive never tried that tbh, ill try that next
[10:48] <SlimeyPete> Pazy: if alt-f2 lets you login in text mode, then you have an X Windows or KDM-related problem.
[10:48] <jrattner> !pastebin
[10:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:48] <Pazy> @Outolimd: I have gotten to the desktop a few times, i installed it 2/3 days ago and have used it everyday, only now that ive used the adept 'full update' option its not working
[10:48] <addyk> Hmm... I think it was correctly writen but... you could try to find the other sections screen and put in the modes that you want. The 1280x800. Youe on a laptop?
[10:48] <jrattner> Question: Why do i get this error all the time when applications start? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27987/
[10:48] <BluesKaj> atixpress200, dice14u ?...same as mine ,after updating i had to reinstall the monitor and fglrx drivers in system settings in order to change the srn res.
[10:48] <dice14u> yes i am
[10:48] <addyk> Hmm... :| intel?
[10:49] <dice14u> acer
[10:49] <dice14u> aspire 5100
[10:49] <addyk> (o.O) OK... :|
[10:49] <BluesKaj> screen resolution
[10:49] <dice14u> BlueKaj i will try that if this doesn't work
[10:49] <addyk> It's getting complicated for me...
[10:49] <dice14u> its alright thanx a bunch
[10:49] <addyk> Sorry :)
[10:50] <dice14u> no you helped i think i got it
[10:50] <addyk> I said what I'd do.
[10:51] <anirudh__> I am having problems turning off the laptop.................After clicking on shutdown........the screen goes blank.....and lightens up as if it was some sort of praphical screens saver program..........Anye idea why that could be happening.........so far I am forcefully shutting down the laptop by holding the power on(off) key for 10 secs or so..........
[10:52] <addyk> anirudh__: try this command sudo halt
[10:52] <addyk> after closing all programs.
[10:53] <anirudh__> addyk, ok i'll try that before a shutdown again............
[10:53] <addyk-irssi> :D OK :)
[10:54] <gadean> hi leute is eine deutsch hier der mir mit kubuntu helfen kann? in bezug auf w-lan, also ndiswrapper`?
[10:54] <anirudh__> How do I disable metabar in konqueror?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> !de
[10:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:54] <gadean> ohh thanks
[10:55] <Karti> Hi all.....if I install Beagle, will I need a front end or desktop tool? or is it all command line?#
[10:58] <klobster> how do I get mplayer to work with firefox?
[10:58] <OutoLumo> Karti, to install or to use?
[10:58] <Karti> to install and use
[10:59] <Karti> I now have beagle installed from the repos but wondered if there was a frontend as I can't see it in the menu
[10:59] <anirudh__> assyk-irssi, OutoLomo, Slimeypete,TeraDyne, BluesKaj..................How do i turn off Metabar? and I have a customized view profile saved...........How do I make that the default view profile?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> klobster, install mozilla-mplayer
[11:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> is comix kde only?
[11:00] <klobster> I have done that, but it doesn't seem to be recognized?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> sorry anirudh__ ...i have no idea
[11:01] <BluesKaj> how did you installit klobster with adept or... ?
[11:01] <klobster> apt-get
[11:01] <Guilty_as_Sin> nm
[11:01] <Karti> OutoLumo: Looks like I found it - its called Kerry, many thanks though
[11:01] <OutoLumo> Karti, the program you are asking for is Kerry...
[11:01] <sunn> I'm using Kubuntu. I can't seem to install the 'Xine Extra Plugins' from the Add/Remove Programs.
[11:01] <Karti> lol ;)
[11:02] <Mr_Njegos> Prahu Oca Srbije
[11:02] <Mr_Njegos>     Nek se ovaj vijek gordi nad svijema vjekovima,
[11:02] <OutoLumo> Karti, sorry, I had to do something before I got to google ;-)
[11:02] <Mr_Njegos>     on e era biti strana ljudskijema koljenima.
[11:02] <Mr_Njegos>     U nj se osam blizanacah u jedan mah iznjihae
[11:02] <Mr_Njegos>     iz kolevke Belonine, i na zemlji pokazae:
[11:02] <Karti> OutoLumo: I just love that apt-cache search
[11:02] <Mr_Njegos>     Napoleon, Karlo, Bliher, knez Velington i Suvorov.
[11:02] <BluesKaj> bummer klobster, not sure if apt-get does a global install ...try reinstalling with adept
[11:02] <BluesKaj> or remove and reinstall
[11:03] <Pazy> I tried Alt+F2 like i was told and I could log in, i then tried startX command and got the same stuff i saw when i tried recovery mode. I wrote it down this time
[11:04] <OutoLumo> sunn, what seems to be the problem?
[11:04] <BluesKaj> !cz
[11:04] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:05] <klobster> I did a sudo apt-get...
[11:05] <Pazy> Who was it that was trying to help a few mins before/
[11:05] <sunn> I selected the package called 'Xine Extra Plugins' in Adept. When I try to install them it says that "there is an error committing packages".
[11:06] <TeraDyne> sunn: have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories? It might be in there.
[11:06] <sunn> I'm new to this whole installing packages thing.
[11:07] <anirudh__> @ assyk-irssi, OutoLomo, Slimeypete,TeraDyne, BluesKaj, .... Thank you.......for helping me out.........B BACK SOON!:)
[11:07] <TeraDyne> !universe | sunn
[11:07] <ubotu> sunn: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:07] <sunn> I have installed Automatix though.
[11:08] <BluesKaj> !Automatix | sunn
[11:08] <ubotu> sunn: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:08] <sunn> Oh no!
[11:08] <BluesKaj> just uninstall it , sunn
[11:09] <sunn> Should I uninstall the program that I've gotten through it too?
[11:09] <OutoLumo> -> Works for me
[11:09] <OutoLumo> sunn, which program was that?
[11:09] <sunn> Skype
[11:09] <Arwen> sunn, nah, just get rid of automatix
[11:10] <jussi01> sunn: it should be fine, just uninstall automatix
[11:10] <Arwen> you might want to sanitize your sources.list, but that's another deal
[11:10] <jussi01> !Easysource
[11:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:10] <BluesKaj> good point Arwen ...I  think he should asap
[11:11] <Arwen> yeh, automatix is just a package manager, but the sources.list changes it makes are dangerous
[11:11] <sunn> How do I uninstall Automatix?
[11:11] <compilerwriter> My sources list is locked what do I do?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> not difficult to edit it out, sunn
[11:12] <Arwen> sunn, if I remember right, apt-get remove automatix2
[11:12] <TeraDyne> !aptfix | compilerwriter
[11:12] <ubotu> compilerwriter: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:12] <Arwen> compilerwriter, eh... is your sources.list locked or is your apt locked?
[11:12] <Arwen> the 1st is a real problem, the second is fixed by ^^
[11:12] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:12] <Pazy> Can someone tell me how to deactice the Nvidia driver (the restricted one) and go back to the free one using the recovery mode thing?
[11:13] <compilerwriter> when I try to run the adept updater something else is using my sources file I think.
[11:13] <sunn> I've uninstalled it.
[11:14] <BluesKaj> yes compilerwriter , sudo dpkg --configure -a , then sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:14] <Arwen> ...
[11:15] <aroo> the heck
[11:15] <BluesKaj> splittsville !
[11:16] <Pazy> Can someone tell me how to deactice the Nvidia driver (the restricted one) and go back to the free one using the recovery mode thing
[11:16] <compilerwriter> Thanks blueskaj
[11:17] <BluesKaj> np, compilerwriter
[11:17] <Arwen> Pazy, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv"
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Pazy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... then you'' have the options to change there
[11:17] <compilerwriter> I remembered there was a procedure but I sure as hell couldn't find it on the web.  Always when I don't need it do I find it.  Never when I want to find it badly.
[11:18] <Pazy> I can do that from the text based recovery mode thing?
[11:18] <Arwen> Pazy, yeah, use vim or "nano -w"
[11:18] <Pazy> I have no idea what that means
[11:19] <Arwen> .........those are programs....
[11:19] <Arwen> "vim file" or "nano -w file"
[11:20] <Pazy> What do they do?
[11:20] <jussi01> hmmm, how do I export favourites from konq?
[11:20] <jussi01> nm, found it...
[11:23] <Arwen> Pazy, they edit text...
[11:23] <Pazy> Ah thank you ill go do that asap
[11:24] <Arwen> Pazy, oh, nano's probably easier to use than vim, just an afterthought
[11:24] <Pazy> Where is Xorg again?
[11:25] <Arwen> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <Pazy> so i type nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:27] <Arwen> Pazy, yeah.
[11:27] <Pazy> How do i search for NVIDIA to replace it with NV then?
[11:28] <Arwen> just scroll through, there'll be a section called "Device", it's under  there
[11:28] <Pazy> thanks so much
[11:29] <sunn> I want to reinstall WinXP, which will probobly rewrite the boot sector of the hard disk. I have a dual boot with Kubuntu. I also have files in Kubuntu that I'd like to keep. WIll Knoppix be able to get into my home folder without trouble?
[11:29] <tom__> hi all, anyone know how i can convert swf files to a normal video format?
[11:30] <Arwen> sunn, better yet, just back up the first 512 bytes of your hard drive and rewrite em after installing Windows
[11:30] <BluesKaj> !grub | sunn
[11:30] <ubotu> sunn: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:30] <Arwen> tom__, you can't, swf files are really programs
[11:31] <tom__> Arwen: ive seen software for windows, but none for linux
[11:31] <sunn> How do I back the first 512B?
[11:31] <Arwen> sunn, dd if=/dev/something of=somefile bs=512 count=1
[11:31] <Arwen> then you can write the file back by reversing the if and of parameters
[11:32] <sunn> OK thanks
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Arwen, now you tell us ..  :P
[11:33] <Arwen> BluesKaj, eh? lol
[11:42] <dhq> i have a adsl wiireless router ... now my adsl router manages the internet ...what i want to do is route all the incoming and outgoing to my linux box is it possible
[11:43] <Pazy> I done the nane thing to chance the Xconf, unfortunately it didnt fix my problem. It spit out the same spit replacing NVIDIA with NV instead. Ive got it all written down but i cant make head nor tail of it
[11:43] <BluesKaj> run yer router off the linux box ...why not ?
[11:47] <klobster> I don't understand why konqueror under fiesty wont properly display my gmail, but under pc-bsd it does; are they using different engines?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> klobster, gmail seems to be down here
[11:52] <klobster> try 209.85.139.83
[11:53] <BluesKaj> it finally loaded , but is very slow
[11:53] <Pazy> I copied the output i get with my problem can anyone here understand it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27989/
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Pazy, ok in the terminal type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <klobster> blueskaj: on fiesty it renders as text only, unless I choose as basic html, in PC-BSD it defaults to basic html, but I can switch it to regular and it renders just fine
[11:56] <Pazy> resetting now
[11:59] <BluesKaj> klobster, you prolly have to reset the the konqueror configuration /browser ID
[11:59] <klobster> from a fresh install?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> well klobster , it might work , give it a try...if you don't want HTML then yer stuck with text
[12:01] <nicolas> allo!
[12:03] <klobster> I clicked on default and it did work... weird, since I certainly didn't change it.  I wonder if ubuntu set's that to something different than default during install
[12:03] <bryan> can't play my dvd's
[12:04] <klobster> no I just have to fix mplayer and java
[12:04] <jussi01> klobster: it could be some sort of localisation thing essing with it...
[12:04] <klobster> !dvd
[12:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:06] <Pazy> Thanks so much BluesKai, it works. Out of interest do you know what the prob was/
[12:09] <Arwen> Pazy, I'm guessing you either changed the wrong nvidia or just that it was pointing at the wrong PCI slot for your video carde
[12:13] <niko__> little problem.. xd card plugged into my computer will not show, how do i mount it ?