tinin_well, tomorrow i'll try with the other network card12:29
tinin_i think i've learned too much weird words12:30
tinin_i'm going to google those files12:31
tinin_btw, i used alternate cd to install xubuntu, does the desktop cd recognize this things? will i have internet from a live cd?12:33
cellofellowyou may12:34
vidd_laptopyou can try it12:34
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huascar80hi, just installed xubuntu... is there any way of making the applications menu bigger? it is SO small...12:55
huascar80especially the icons12:56
vidd_laptopwhat is your resolution set at?12:59
huascar80i mean is it even possible? i've been searching the control panel upside down!12:59
vidd_laptopset your resolution lower01:00
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huascar80guess that's a workaround (and i appreciate ayway) but not a solution01:01
geck0does anyone know how to use preload?01:06
geck0I did sudo apt-get install preload01:08
geck0But where do I set which applications I want to preload?01:08
TheSheep_geck0: I think it works dynamically01:09
TheSheep_geck0: that is, it "learns"01:10
geck0sorry, can you put that in stupid people terms?01:10
geck0ok thanks =P01:10
TheSheep_geck0: look into /etc/preload.conf01:10
geck0k I found it01:11
geck0so I don't set up which applications it will preload or anything, it will just go automatically right?01:12
TheSheep_geck0: yes01:13
geck0ok, thanks for your help TheSheep!01:13
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geck0is there a good place to find themes for xubuntu?01:17
kalikianageck0, http://xfce-look.org/ :)01:17
geck0thanks =)01:18
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geck0how do I remove applications from the applications menu?01:25
geck0by the way, sorry for all the silly questions, I'm brand new to linux/xubuntu =)01:26
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EricWe can get help here?01:28
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geck0I'm trying to get help too =) sometimes people respond01:28
geck0so ask away hehe01:28
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EricOh, okay01:29
EricIf anyone is listening: I01:29
Ericam running Xubuntu 7.04 and need to know how to connect to WLAN01:30
geck0eric: try reading this, it may help01:31
EricAh thank you kind sir01:31
EricI'll try to get this workin01:31
geck0good luck =)01:31
cellofellow!wifi | Eric01:32
ubotuEric: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:32
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scizzoI have been following the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.2901:34
scizzohowever....they are saying that if I want to get this session started with the preferences I got I need to go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions and then to Startup Programs -> New and add a new session01:35
scizzohowever....to me that sounds like normal ubuntu path not the xfce path01:35
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scizzoso....my question is pretty much if there is such a session editing in xfce?01:36
TheSheep_scizzo: settings->autostarted applications01:36
cellofellowscizzo: and in some things the good-old text editor.01:36
scizzohehe.. :)01:37
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scizzothanks guys...worked just fine01:42
vidd_laptopgeck0, what do you need help with?01:47
TheSheep_geck0: the menu is created from files in /usr/share/applications01:48
TheSheep_geck0: you can add 'Hidden: true' to any of these files to make them not appear in the menu01:48
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vidd_laptopTheSheep_, how do we add things there to have them show up if they are not there already?01:52
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TheSheep_vidd_laptop: well, create a new .desktop file...01:53
TheSheep_vidd_laptop: the spec is at freedekstop.org, but you should be able to ltell by just looking01:53
vidd_laptopwhere is the file stored?01:55
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vidd_laptophey GrueTamer02:27
vidd_laptophow goes it?02:27
Xs1t0ryAnyone: After choosing Xubuntu in Grub the screen goes black and the loading icon appears but nothing ever happens. Suggestions for troubleshooting?02:27
vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, is there other items in grub?02:28
Xs1t0ryvidd_laptop: only the memtest and windows xp02:29
vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, is it possible that the install failed?02:30
Xs1t0ryvidd_laptop: no because after the install, PC restarted and i went into fine, then after discovering WLAN didnt work, i went to windows to see how to fix it. when i tried to go back to fix it, i ran into this problem -- it's not starting02:32
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Xs1t0ryyes i cant figure it out02:34
vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, did you install anything on the windows side?02:34
vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, when the loading icon comes on, hit <ctrl><alt><f4>{i think} to see what system messages say02:37
Xs1t0ryok, be back in 5 mins02:38
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Xs1t0ryvidd_laptop: i tried it but it just brought me to a console02:51
vidd_laptopone of the tty's will show system messages02:52
Xs1t0ryall i saw was tty4 written at the top02:53
Xs1t0rywhat am i looking for?02:53
vidd_laptopfor the last command02:53
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Xs1t0ryok but to be clear, it isnt the loading screen that says xubuntu with the bar, it is the black screen after that which has the loading icon circle (the *buntu vers of the windows hourglass)02:54
Xs1t0rydoes that make any diff?02:54
vidd_laptopsomething that should be loading is not...and to fix it, we need to know what it is02:55
vidd_laptoptry tty1...i cant remember which one it is02:56
Xs1t0rytry it?02:58
Xs1t0rywhat do you mean?02:58
Xs1t0ryi type that in the cmd line?02:58
vidd_laptopsee if <ctrl><alt><f1> shows the commands as they are loaded02:59
Xs1t0ryok brb03:00
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vidd_laptopwb Xs1t0ry03:05
Xs1t0ryvidd: in tty1 it stops at 'running boot scripts' or something like that and it brackets says '/etc/r.local' or something03:06
Xs1t0ryin tty8 it says loading console fonts and keyboard stuff when it stops responsding03:06
Xs1t0rytty2-7 are just blank consoles03:06
Xs1t0ryand if i press enter it allows me to enter my username and password in the console and will log me in03:07
Xs1t0rybut only in the console, never to the desktop03:07
vidd_laptopdo there is an issue with your desktop.....03:07
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Xs1t0ryyes it doesnt seem to be loading03:07
Xs1t0rywhich ive never heard of03:08
Xs1t0ryits like bsod from boot03:08
Xs1t0rylike having hands but no eyes... advice?03:08
LankenI have a Xubuntu Dapper install whose kernel is too primitive for me to install modem drivers.03:08
Lankencan I download kernel sources or the next version of the kernel?03:09
Xs1t0rylanken: you can upgrade up to 7.04 now i think03:09
LankenXs1t0ry: the trouble is I don't have any bandwidth03:10
LankenXs1t0ry: I'm on dial-up03:10
Xs1t0rylanken: do you have a dual-boot?03:10
LankenXs1t0ry: and I need to upgrade the kernel if I want Xubuntu to have any connnectivity at all.03:10
LankenXs1t0ry: I have an XP machine next to it that has dial-up03:10
Xs1t0ryLanken: can't you mount the latest vers and then put it on your machine?03:11
LankenXs1t0ry: the latest version of what?03:11
Xs1t0ryLanken: the kernel/whole OS03:12
vidd_laptopbasically, i think your desktop needs to be restarted....03:12
LankenXs1t0ry: I'm sure I could if I had the bandwidth to download the new version of the kernel/whole OS03:12
Xs1t0ryLanken: what i mean is use your xp machine to d/l it and then burn it03:12
vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, from comand line, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:13
Xs1t0ryLanken: or does your xp machine not have enough bandwidth?03:13
LankenXs1t0ry: the XP machine has dial-up too.03:13
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Xs1t0ryLanken: shit. i would say order a new disk by snail mail but that takes 6-8 weeks03:13
Xs1t0ryvidd_laptop: ok ill try that one sec03:14
LankenXs1t0ry: in two weeks I'll have bandwidth again.03:14
Xs1t0ryLanken: how so?03:14
mrigns_Lanken: hey, long time no see :D03:14
Lankenmrigns_: hey dude.03:15
Xs1t0ryvidd: it will work with xubuntu also even though the desktop environment is xfce?03:15
Lankenmrigns_: I've been in #linguistics.03:15
mrigns_1337 :D03:15
Lankenmrigns_: your scrollback will tell you that I have dial-up here -_-03:15
Lankenbut I do have a sweet new thinkpad yay.03:16
vidd_laptopLanken, why do you need to update the kernel?03:16
Lankenvidd_laptop: the kernel I have (which came with a 6.06 iso) is too old to use the drivers for my software modem.03:16
mrigns_Lanken: I'm back idling. cya around03:17
vidd_laptopso you have no broadbrand?03:17
Lankenvidd_laptop: right.03:17
vidd_laptopdo you have dial-up?03:18
Lankenyes, on my XP box.03:18
vidd_laptopso why dont you do this....(man i hate suggesting this!)03:18
vidd_laptopon your xp box, set up internet connection sharing....03:19
vidd_laptopconnect your linux box to it via a crossover cable....03:19
vidd_laptopthen edit your sources.list file to edgy....03:20
vidd_laptopthen sudo apt-get (or aptitude if you prefer) update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:21
LankenI don't think I have a crossover cable.03:21
vidd_laptopdo you have a router?03:21
LankenI can look for a cat5 cable and maybe mod it.03:21
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Lankenno, no router03:22
Lankenno reason for any of that gunk in a house without broadband03:22
Lankenuntil now03:22
Lanken(actually, connection-sharing sounds neat, I should tell my dad about that)03:22
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vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, any luck?03:23
Xs1t0ryvidd: desktop flashed on the screen for a split second then went back to the loading screen again03:23
Xs1t0ryhowever I think i mightve turned on the remote login03:24
Xs1t0rywhere can i find the command to turn it off in the console?03:24
Xs1t0ryremote login seems like an explanation anyways03:24
vidd_laptopit is possible...i never used it03:25
Xs1t0ryin the options i mustve checked 'enable remote login'03:27
Xs1t0rythats the only thing i changed, before that it worked03:27
vidd_laptopLanken, you might be able to use a regular cable03:28
vidd_laptopXs1t0ry, if that is all you changed, then it is the likely cause03:28
Xs1t0ryvidd: yea i changed it because i was curious03:28
Xs1t0ryvidd: now i need to figure out how to turn it back03:29
Lankenvidd_laptop: I actually don't have any cat5 at all.03:31
Lankenvidd_laptop: thanks for the education though.03:31
vidd_laptopyou have wireless Lanken ?03:31
Lankenvidd_laptop: both machines have internal wireless cards03:35
Lankenvidd_laptop: the linux laptop has an intel card, so hopefully it's easy to get working under linux.03:35
vidd_laptopLanken, then try to steal a neighbor's broadband03:35
vidd_laptop=] 03:35
Lankenvidd_laptop: rofl.03:36
Lankenvidd_laptop: we have dial-up because we're in the boonies.03:36
vidd_laptopgee.... Lanken are you in virginia by chace?03:40
Lankenvidd_laptop: New Hampshire03:41
Lankenvidd_laptop: it's pretty remote.03:41
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vidd_laptopif both of your computers have wifi...then set up an ad-hok network, and send the ICS over that Lanken03:42
Lankenvidd_laptop: can you do that?  you don't need a router?03:43
vidd_laptopLanken, no...that is why its called "ad-hok"03:43
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R[a] ndomad hoc03:53
vidd_laptopR[a] ndom, i never said i could spell =] 03:53
R[a] ndoms'aight.  I'm just a big correction nazi.03:54
R[a] ndomok, only sometimes03:54
R[a] ndomapparently ad hoc translates to "for this purpose"03:54
R[a] ndomI don't see how that describes a peer to peer connection03:55
vidd_laptopits a "for this purpose" network connection (this being purposely undefined)03:56
vidd_laptop=] 03:57
Lankengrrr...does xubuntu ship build-essential in the iso?03:58
Lankenwhat's the relevant metapackage called?03:59
vidd_laptopi guess....03:59
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Catoptromancy [21:58]  Lanken: grrr...does xubuntu ship build-essential in the iso?04:07
Catoptromancyi need to sudo aptitude install it04:07
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agentnoobwhat happened to #ubuntu?05:02
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agentnoob!ubotu #ubuntu05:05
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com05:05
agentnoob!ubotu irc05:05
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines05:05
vidd_laptoplooks like there was a flood attack05:06
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agentnoobyeah something not right05:10
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Chikubuhi ppl, ive lost my gui on boot...i don't get a what i think is the gdm greet screen with logon, i just get a plain terminal logon, which i have to run startx to get my desktop back, ive looked at the gdm.conf file and it looks ok, suggestions on how i can get the greeter back on boot?05:29
Chikubuthis happened after a distro upgrade of about 118 megs05:29
vidd_laptopChikubu, check your boot script...05:31
vidd_laptopit is possible that it is missing startx05:32
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uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free06:19
vidd_laptop!info unrar-free06:20
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB06:20
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Chikubuwhat does the command cat /ect/fstab do??06:35
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tonyyarussoChikubu: lists the contents of the file located at /etc/fstab06:47
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:47
Chikubuand if your fstab file is mising or doesnt exist?06:47
tonyyarussoChikubu: similar to opening it a text editor read-only, kinda.06:47
tonyyarussoChikubu: then you have a mighty interesting situation....  Note that it's /etc, not /ect.06:48
Chikubuah heck i found it06:50
Chikubumy contacts need cleaning ugg06:50
Chikubuim having a problem at boot...i used to get a gui logon, but now all i get is terminal logon, with some kinit errors referencing /dev/disk/by-uuid06:51
Chikubui can logon at the terminal login and run startx to get my desktop06:52
Chikububut id like the old behaviour back06:52
Chikubuthere are a bunch of bug reports about this but no solutions06:52
tonyyarussoI haven't heard about it frankly, so I doubt I can help on that one.  (UUID is still a mystery to me)06:53
Chikubufstab file has refrences to my hard drive commented out - - -/dev/hda1 and hada5 and looks like UUID referneces instead...i wonder if the upgrade switched them06:56
Chikubuthe line # /dev/hda1  is replaced with a long UUID=yadayadayda  or so it seems....dare i switch them around?06:58
tonyyarussoYou could try - it wouldn't be the "preferred" way of doing things, but it may be a temporary workaround until you find a real solution.06:59
Chikubuah well i can always run tirc hehe06:59
Chikubuhere goes nuthin06:59
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Chikubuthere is a fstab.pre-uuid right below it, but nothing much in it but a comment07:01
Chikubuah well reboot time07:01
cellofellownext time tell Chikabu about !uuid07:02
tonyyarussocellofellow: good catch - a moment too late :S  Thanks.07:04
Jester45i keep saying07:12
Jester45ubotu need to have some sort of wb message07:13
Jester45so that only register users (no spam) can tell it to tell a message to the person07:14
Jester45so like this case when chikubu come back ubotu would say right away, cellofellow wanted you to know !uuid07:14
cellofellowgood idea07:15
tonyyarussoJester45: There actually is such a function already written - it's just not in ubotu at this time.07:15
Jester45nobody likes me07:15
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shirishguys how do I enable compiz in xubuntu gutsy?08:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:04
cellofellowtry the other channel08:04
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+108:04
shirishoh ok thanx guys08:05
shirishcellofellow: the thing is I'm running xfce & can't find desktop effects in xfce , but if you guys feel ubunut+1 is the correct place to ask that question, will do so08:06
cellofellowdesktop effects in xfce4 are limited to transparent windows.08:06
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HanselFor some reason every single window I open has the same window title... the letter o... any way I can get it to use whatever the default should be for each application I open?09:23
Hanselor what setting I may have jacked up?09:23
j1mcHansel: is the o in the upper left-corner?09:25
j1mcclick it.  :)09:25
Hansel...a dot gets filled in... ?09:25
j1mcyeah... sorta.  with it filled in, look in your lower-right corner09:26
Hanselah... okay, I'm retarded... lol09:26
j1mc... of your screen.09:26
j1mcit takes the app you're using, and puts it in all of your virtual desktops09:26
HanselI feel unworthy asking for help to get my wireless working now.. .hhehe09:26
j1mci can try to help with that if you'd like09:27
HanselI have a Cisco wireless card... Aironet 35009:27
Hanselit can detect the card cause all the lights come on...09:28
HanselI just cant get an IP from my wireless router.09:28
HanselI have WEP enabled.  I just want to be able to scan for local networks as opposed to having to type it all in manually.09:28
hyper_chwhy use WEP?09:29
Hanselwhen I go into Network Settings I see 2 wireless connections wifi0 and eth1... I believe eth1 is the one it should be.09:29
j1mcwhat version of xubuntu are you using?09:29
HanselI could use WPA or something else...09:29
Hanseluhm... Fiesty?09:29
HanselI just want to be able to scan for networks... so no matter what encryption they are using I can pick and choose.09:29
Hanselright now I'm not connected to anything and the lights are flashing like bonkers.09:30
j1mcso, do you know the command, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"?09:30
Hanselstatus and activity lights...09:30
Hanselk... its just showing 1... the ESSID is baby.  Mine is pigvomit... it isnt in the list.  :(09:30
Hanselooh... I ran it again and it showed up!09:31
j1mcok... and it says the key is on?09:31
HanselEncryption key:on09:31
Hanselis there a way I can get this to show up in the gui interface?  I am giving this to my dad and he can't handle a command line...09:32
j1mci'm not sure what types of encryption this works on, and what it doesn't work on, but...09:32
hyper_chHansel: the only secure thing I know is Radius09:32
j1mchyper_ch: what is Radius?09:32
hyper_chRadius server so that even the login connection thing will be encrypted09:32
hyper_chWPA can "easily" be hacked because the handshake part is not encrypted09:32
hyper_ch!bug 109:33
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:33
j1mcHansel: if you want this to be done by a gui, then you'd probably want to use network-manager-gnome09:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109:33
j1mcnetwork-manager-gnome has some gnome-libs that it depends on, and xubunteros don't like that.  :)  ... but, it's better than nothing for those who need a gui for now.09:35
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Hanseljlmc - k... I'm apt-getting it now... or attempting to anyhow.09:35
j1mcHansel: how are you connected to the internet now?09:35
topcat1027can somebody help me... when i go into add remove programs, all the programs say i can't download them, my hardware doesn't support it, blabla09:36
HanselI connected the cable to my laptop... google comes up but apt-get is attempting to pull from us.archive.ubuntu.com and stalling out...09:36
hyper_chHansel: can you ping anything?09:37
Hanselyeah... google responds09:37
HanselI pull up firefox and it loads fine.09:37
hyper_chHansel: maybe the that server is down09:37
hyper_chHansel: you know, this can happen ;)09:38
Hanselalways to me... :(09:38
j1mctopcat1027: can you post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file in http://pastebin.ca ?09:38
hyper_chHansel: replace "us" with "ch"09:39
hyper_chHansel: and test if that works09:39
Hanselk... lemme pull up my sources.list09:39
hyper_chHansel: just a couple of minutes ago I looked if there are updates on the swiss servers09:39
Hanselrunning apt-get update... hold09:39
hyper_chand ..... ?09:41
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j1mcsorry, but i need to go to bed.  take care, all09:41
Hanselstrange... I updated my sources.list then ran apt-get update and its stalling out on us.archive.ubuntu.com even though I replaced them all with ch.09:42
hyper_chhmmm, that is really strange09:42
hyper_chare you sure you have replaced them all=?09:42
Hanselvery odd09:43
Hanselmy laptop has a mind of its own09:43
hyper_chcool ;)09:43
Hanselnow I cant apt-get gnome-network-manager...09:43
Hanselerr... I guess thats probably because its network-manager-gnome, huh?  hehe09:44
HanselI'm retarded tonight09:44
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bart_17vinze: i have an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run xubuntu fiesty decently on this pc?11:54
hyper_chyes, I think so11:55
hyper_chbart_17: yes11:55
bart_17does xubuntu play mp3's out of the box?11:55
vinzeBut it's not difficult to add support11:55
hyper_chbart_17: but it can be easily made to play them11:55
bart_17ok.. i'm a noob11:56
vinzeNo problem :D11:56
hyper_chbart_17: just add the medibuntu repository and fetch the codecs :)11:56
vinzehyper_ch, what's wrong with Gstreamer?11:56
vinze(Except that gxine doesn't use it ;)11:56
hyper_chvinze: I don't use it11:56
vinzeI always see this medibuntu repo mentioned but I have never used it and I'm playing an MP3 right now11:56
bart_17would i be able to do it even without an internet connection?11:56
vinzeWell, you'd have to download it from somewhere else11:57
hyper_chvinze: medibuntu repo has a few things more than just the mp3 codecs11:57
vinzeBut I suppose you'll then also be downloading the Xubuntu CD somewhere else11:57
vinzehyper_ch, like what?11:57
vinzeYou mean DVD's and stuff?11:57
hyper_chvinze: have a look at what they offer11:57
vinzeOh I see11:58
vinzehyper_ch, thanks11:58
bart_17i can download it here, but my old pc is in the farm and we don't have an internet connection there11:58
vinzeOK, do you have a USB drive or anything which you could save it to?11:58
AlexCcan you get mp3 codecs without adding repos?11:59
vinzeAlexC, you can download the packages manually11:59
hyper_chcan vlc by default play mp3s?11:59
bart_17yes, i just need to know where to download and how to install11:59
vinzeOK, hold on a sec..12:00
hyper_chbart_17: if you download the .deb files you just double-click them on the desktop12:00
hyper_chbart_17: they are sort of like .exe files12:00
vinzebart_17, what version of Xubuntu will you be using?12:00
bart_17ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i fiesty12:00
bart_17ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i'll be installing fiesty fiesty12:00
vinzeOK, I'll look it up12:00
bart_17ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i'll be installing fiesty12:01
AlexCvlc has codecs inclosed12:01
hyper_chbart_17: http://packages.ubuntu.com  --> but those are only the official repos... so no mp3 codecs12:01
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=== hyper_ch but prefers amarok for playing music
vinzehyper_ch, if you download vlc from there then I suppose you'll have MP3 support then12:02
hyper_chvinze: if it's enclosed I think they will play...12:02
hyper_chbart_17: how long will you still be online?12:02
bart_17long, y?12:02
vinzehyper_ch, only problem is the amount of dependencies when downloading it manually12:03
hyper_chI guess I'll just install xubuntu feisty in vmware and see what it fetches12:03
bart_17ok, thanx12:03
hyper_chbart_17: you have no inet available after you install feisty?12:03
vinzeI was thinking about the "Generate Package Download Script" feature in Synaptic12:04
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bart_17nope, as the pc is in our other house...12:04
bart_17and that pc doesn't have a network card12:05
hyper_chvinze: will you install xubi feisty in a virtual box?12:05
hyper_chvinze: my cpu is currently doing massive things ;)12:05
vinzeI'll just run the LiveCD and generate the download script12:05
hyper_chvinze: ok ;) thx12:05
bart_17heya guys, where are you from if you don't mind me asking12:06
hyper_chvinze: and you can also downloadand install vlc to see whether it does actually play mp3s out of the box12:06
hyper_chbart_17: from home12:06
vinzehyper_ch, yeah, that's what I planned to do first ;)12:06
vinzebart_17, the Netherlansd12:06
vinze*The Netherlands12:06
hyper_chHollnder ^^12:07
bart_17i'm from the philippines..12:07
hyper_chdamn, my cpu is constantly at 100% ^^12:08
vinzeMine too but I meant it to :P12:08
vinzeWhat're you doing?12:08
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 531/1017GB, RAM: 996/1010MB, 157 proc's, 15.39h up12:08
hyper_chhmmm, ktorrent is running12:08
hyper_chamarok is playing music12:08
hyper_chI'm copying DVDs to my harddisk12:08
hyper_chI'm untarring downloaded torrents12:09
hyper_chthat'sa bout it12:09
bart_17which would be a better way to install xubuntu, with the livecd or the alternate?12:09
vinzeOooo, that's about nothing :P12:09
vinzeI prefer the LiveCD12:09
hyper_chvinze: got an old computer12:09
vinzeTry doing that with WinXP :P12:09
hyper_chfor installation the alternate normally gives less headache12:10
bart_17ok.. will be downloading the alternate then...12:10
vinzeMight be a bit more scary, but it's not really difficult12:10
bart_17just a sec..12:10
vinzehyper_ch, how did you get that sysinfo?12:10
hyper_chscary? I think it's a lot simpler than a winxp install12:10
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hyper_chvinze: using konversation... it's a script there12:10
vinzeO k12:11
hyper_chvinze: want the source?12:11
vinzeNah don't bother12:11
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hyper_chvinze: maybe you can adapt it for xchat:    http://phpfi.com/24608412:13
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vinzeNow just need to  figure out how it works ;)12:14
bart_17hyper_ch: u think its easier to install ubunut than winxp??12:14
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hyper_chbart_17: yes, if the hardware is being recognized... it's a lot simpler12:14
bart_17i would say that they are probably at the same12:16
vinzeDoes Windows install as a LiveCD?12:16
bart_17i am downloading xubuntu fiesty alternate now..12:16
hyper_chdoes windows know what a livecd is?12:16
bart_17vinze: nope...12:16
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bart_17i would disagree... probably 4gb ram, c2d 2.0Ghz ehhehe12:18
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bart_17i have the xubuntu fiesty livecd and booted it before.... i had one problem though12:19
bart_17i could not go beyond a 640X480 screen resolution12:19
vinzeThat's annoying...12:19
bart_17nope... it's a built in videocard... sis, i installed suse 9.1 personal last wek and i was able to go to 1024X768, but it was kinda too slow for me12:21
bart_17SiS 530 chipset12:21
hyper_chno clue... I only use nvidia12:21
bart_17ok... but how do you configure the screen resolution?12:24
vinzeApplications->Settings->Display Settings12:24
bart_17but it only has 640X480 nothing else..12:25
vinzeThen you'd have to mess with some configuration files (Gutsy, the next version, will have a graphical tool to do this)12:26
vinzeSee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397312:26
bart_17btw, how can i play, divx/xvid avi and mkv videos in xubuntu??12:30
vinzeAlso with vlc I guess12:30
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bart_17ok thanx12:30
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bart_17hyper_ch: how do i get/install vlc?12:37
vinzebart_17, I'm still working on it, but it seems to hang a bit :(12:38
hyper_chif you have internet:  sudo aptitude install vlc12:38
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bart_17how about if i don;t have an internet connection??12:39
vinze<vinze> bart_17, I'm still working on it, but it seems to hang a bit :(12:39
bart_17i hope its not much of a bother12:39
vinzeNo, np12:39
slow-motionthe bars with the applicatians menu and the programs i have started are gone. how do i get them back?12:40
vinzePress Alt+F212:40
vinzeThen type "xfce4-panel"12:40
slow-motionah thank yoz12:41
bart_17would it be a lot easier if i have an internet connection??12:41
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bart_17i'll ask my firends if they have a spare nic and i guess i'll just have to drive to the farm and bring the pc here... are you usually here??12:43
vinzeNo, I should though12:43
vinzeYou can also mail me if you'd like12:43
bart_17ok.. what's your email add??12:43
vinzeimnotb at gmail12:44
bart_17mine is12:44
bart_17bart1105 at gmail12:44
bart_17still there hyper_ch?12:45
hyper_chsort of12:45
bart_17vinze/hyper_ch: where do you work?12:48
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hyper_chbart_17: in a law firm12:48
bart_17vinze: what are you taking up?12:48
vinzebart_17, taking up?12:48
bart_17vince are you in college??12:49
vinzeHigh school12:49
bart_17hyper_ch: are you a lawyer??12:49
hyper_chbart_17: not yet12:50
bart_17hyper_ch: hw long have you been using linux??12:52
bart_17vinze: hw long have you been using linux??12:52
vinzeEmmm... Since Ubuntu Dapper I guess12:53
hyper_chon servers for 3 years12:53
vinzeEmm, Warty I mean12:53
hyper_chon desktops since last june12:53
bart_17what were your os before linux??12:54
vinzeWinME, the switch was not that difficult :P12:54
bart_17winME was crap12:55
vinzeStill is ;-)12:55
vinzeIt's still supposed to be lurking around somewhere on my computer12:55
bart_17i think they recalled it a year or two ago...12:55
vinzeYeah could be12:55
vinzeI haven't touched it in ages12:55
vinzeI might turn that hard drive into a backup drive or something12:55
bart_17hhahaha.. i still have a couple of winxp boxes runneing here in the ofc12:56
bart_17is it hard to set up my network so i can share files with my winxp boxes??12:57
vinzeNo idea, never done it before12:57
predaeusbart_17, I think you might need samba for that12:58
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:59
vinzeI believe this blog had quite some posts about it: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/12:59
bart_17predaeus: i have 3 winxp box, that is connected to a router and has file sharing enabled.. what i would like to do is change the os in my laptop and configure it that i can share my files with the my laptop and the 3 boxes and vice versa01:01
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bart_17wb hyper_ch01:07
vinzeOh crap01:09
bart_17what happend vinze>01:10
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Fast--I have VMware 6.0 installed on my Windows XP Laptop, Anytime I goto install Ubuntu either from mounted image or boot-CD, I get the error message about GBUB not being installed.  In VMware, I have set space for 4gig's for Ubuntu to run on.  Any suggestions?02:31
Fast--I have posted on Ubuntu forum and figured i'd try here also...02:31
Fast--^ <err VMware's forum> ^02:32
AlexCi've never used VMware02:33
AlexCbut i thought i'de add my two cents02:33
Fast--is GRUB boot issue common under Ubuntu?02:35
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AlexCGRUB is the loader that the bios looks at to load the OS02:36
AlexCwindows comes with it's own loader02:36
Mnabilwhy the dump xubuntu developers fix this crapy bugy installer02:37
Mnabil*why dun they02:37
AlexCmnabil, explane02:37
Fast--so i dont need to even use a boot loader in my config?02:39
MnabilAlexC, i got the gutsy release , desktop cd, then i tried to install it on my laptop, this installer is soo bugy !!!!02:39
MnabilAlexC, so it's hang , i dun know why is the fuck is this02:39
TheSheep_!language | Mnabil02:40
ubotuMnabil: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:40
MnabilTheSheep_, is that all you care about  ! language !!02:41
AlexCfast--, i've never used vmware02:41
TheSheepBug #3122902:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 31229 in debian-installer "Grub install fails on VMWare SCSI disk" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3122902:43
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TheSheephyper_ch: hiho02:46
hyper_chTheSheep: huhu :)02:46
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TheSheepFast--: maybe this is more relevant? Bug #7501002:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 75010 in ubiquity "GrubInstaller failed with code 1 " [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7501002:50
TheSheepadx: hello02:50
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adxGuys i have no clue about xfce , but can anyone tell me how to get a panel in xfce?02:52
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TheSheepadx: it disappeared?02:53
TheSheepadx: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel'02:53
adxbut this wont get me into shell?02:53
adxi see (run)02:53
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adxNow its great , i cant get the panel to stick02:56
adxWould you mind telling me how to get all the window on op of it? :)02:56
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adxNvm , i did it02:57
Fast--my drive is showing up as SCSI, but I cant change it to IDE.03:00
Fast--apparently that seems to be the issue03:00
Fast--^ when in fact it is IDE03:00
adxYou are using vmware?03:01
Fast-- Choose: VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced        no IDE selections, only SCSI in drop down03:01
adxi get this problem once in vmware but i dont remmber how i fixed it , try playing with the settings03:02
TheSheepFast--: I think you need to stop the machine before doing this kind of changes03:02
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Fast--and actually I deleted the virtuial partition to start over even lol03:03
TheSheepFast--: the virtual machine, I mean03:03
Fast--I know03:03
Fast--it's now recreating the v.partition, as I thought maybe under custom there was an option...but ther ewas not @ the point of creating it.03:04
Fast--would any SCSI selection = an IDE channel <kinda odd question and dont think so..but need to ask>03:04
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gambler2003can somone help me with an install on a Dell Inspiron 1501?03:15
gambler2003My issue is that Ubutu won't seem to pick up the Hard Dive controler03:17
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nzkHow do I open up a rar archive I burned on a CD?03:27
gambler2003good morning nzk03:27
nzkIt's late afternoon, but ok.03:27
Fast--VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced03:28
gambler2003late afternoon ??? Where?03:29
nzkAnyway, I put in a PAL dvd into my player which is known to be region free, but Xubuntu isn't automatically detecting it.03:31
gambler2003Neet.  I was looking for some help with an Ubuntu install can someone help?03:31
gambler2003I wish I could help with the dvd but untill a few months ago I didn't even know they had "regional formats?03:34
gambler2003Looks like in I need to check a different place for my issue.03:36
Fast--gambler2003 <Fast--> VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced03:36
Fast--oh well, i tried03:36
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Fast--<nzk> How do I open up a rar archive I burned on a CD?                 winrar?03:36
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nzkI mean in Xubuntu03:42
nzkBut I got it, nevermind03:42
TheSheep!dvd | nzk03:42
ubotunzk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:42
nzkWhat in god's name is making Xubuntu redline with FF, Pidgin, Xchat, and Rhythmbox running?04:01
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adxIs there any theme for the panel?04:21
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predaeuscan someone look at the Applicatons (XFCE menu) menu's icon, right click -> properties and tell me what the default xubuntu icon is called. I removed it but I want to have it back. Please.04:38
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masushi all04:39
masusi have install xubuntu with LTSP and configured it04:39
masusbut i can't login from a thinclient04:39
masuscan anybody help ?04:40
masusi can see the login screen but if i type a username and password i see the login screen again04:40
nzkYou typed it wrong04:41
masusthe relase of xubuntu is 6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS04:42
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masusno from the server i can login04:42
totalwormageis it possible your harddisk is full04:42
masuswith  the same user and pass04:42
masusno it's a fresh copy04:42
totalwormageor is it possible your keyboardsettings are changed04:42
masusyes it can be04:42
masusif it's changed can i not login04:43
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totalwormageoh well, if it is actually changed then you don't type what you think you type04:45
masusno it's only numeric04:45
totalwormagehowever, i don't know how to fix that04:45
masusthe password04:45
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masus:( can anybody help04:51
adxbut not me04:51
illu45masus, I'm doubtful, but can try... what's the problem?04:52
masusok i'll explain again04:52
masusi have a xubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS with LTSP on it04:52
masusi have configured all the settings on the server04:52
masuseverything seems to be ok but if i connect via a thinclient ican see the login screen but cant login04:53
masusi type the user and pass and after 3-4 seconds the login screen is showing again04:54
illu45Hm... You might want to check the configuration readme, it seems like it may be set to re-request login. Although I've never run an uby server, so I'm not sure.04:56
masusok np thanks04:56
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HanselWhen I go into kwifimanager it says I'm connected to my wireless network but that my Local IP is unavailable.  Anybody know what I might be able to change?06:10
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Chikubuanyone know about a problem involving a kinit error about finding the disk by-uuid?  i used to get a gui logon at boot, but now i get two kinit errors and a terminal logon, have to startx manualy....(not at machine dont have exact error message)06:13
Jester45whats the erors06:15
Jester45couldnt you just add starx to init06:16
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atarinoxanybody have problems watching flash vids in firefox? the video always freezes on me randomly and the audio stutters06:19
Hanselnada.. mine works like a champ.  Occasionally a porn site will be slow and it will stutter while its waiting for more naked goodness to be downloaded06:21
Hanselotherwise if its a fast site it works like a champ.06:21
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Jester45atarinox, what version of flash are you using06:22
atarinoxJester45: 9.0 r3106:24
Jester45atarinox, would this be adobe's flash06:25
atarinoxim using the libflashplayer.so plugin06:26
atarinoxJester45: any ideas?06:30
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tinindoes someone know a lightweight downloader for firefox?06:37
tininlike kget06:37
Jester45wget, its not an extension for firefox but its lightweight, all you so is open a terminal type wget then paste the url and press eter06:38
tininfor my mom06:39
BFTDwrite I front end to wget06:39
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HanselMy wireless card isn't working.  I've tried all sorts of stuff.  Right now iwconfig and all my other utils say I'm connected to my network but I dont have an IP...06:59
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SharnHello peeps07:01
Hanselhi Sharn07:02
SharnI'm learning Russian and looking for a way to type it alongside English. Anyone have a useful link or anything?07:03
BFTDHansel it says you're connected but no IP?07:03
BFTDis the router set to SHCP?07:03
HanselBFTD - set to dhcp, it works with my non-Linux boxes just fine.07:11
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Geck1I was wondering if I could get help with a couple questions, does anyone know how I can install a theme? I downloaded one from xfce-look.org, but I don't know how to get to it07:21
Geck1Secondly, if I make a new user, will that user have access to all the programs I already have installed on my computer? And is it possible to make this user not have a password, such as for a guest account?07:22
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HanselGeck1 - its a BAD idea to not have a password07:27
Hanseltechnically you can configure your Login manager to auto-login a user... setting NO password is BAD though...07:27
HanselI use Gnome so I can tell you how to install a theme for that... usually I just drag and drop from my browser to the Theme Manager window and it auto-installs.07:28
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HanselIf you just downloaded a .tar.gz file or something like that with the theme in it you should just have to go into the theme manager and pick the file from your /home directory07:28
SharnShould work about the same07:28
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SharnAppliacations > Settings > Desktop Settings07:29
SharnErm, no07:29
SharnThat's not right.07:29
Jester45or right click on the desktop and select desktop settings07:29
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Xs1t0ryAt startup, Xubuntu cannot configure network interface and is stuck at the loading bar indefinitely. Advice on troubleshooting please, anyone?07:42
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Geck1Hi, I just have one more question (sorry!) -- There are some screen shots here http://www.xfce.org/about/screenshots which are from xfce, which I think is the same thing that Xubuntu uses.  I can't seem to find any themes like in those screenshots with alpha blended (transparent) windows/window borders.  I didnt see any at xfce-look.org either.  Does anyone know where to look for these transparent themes?07:47
predaeus_Geck1, see Applications/Settings/Window Manager Tweaks   there is a tab where you can enable compositing (which allows for fast transparency)07:49
predaeus_Geck1, xfce comes with it's own composite manager, but you can use compiz too07:50
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Blais1Hello all07:56
Blais1I have a strange problem with my sound07:57
Blais1I get lots of noise coming through my speakers when there is activity on the screen, or even when I move my mouse around, how can I fix this?07:57
Xs1t0ryAre you drivers installed properly07:58
Blais1I believe so07:58
Blais1how can I tell?07:58
Blais1I have onboard sound07:58
Xs1t0ryDo you have a dual boot?07:58
Xs1t0ryIs it alright in Windows?07:58
Blais1I don't notice it07:58
Blais1so I would say yez07:59
Xs1t0rySo then its not the speakers..07:59
Xs1t0rythats an obscure problem07:59
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predaeus_I had this too, no idea what it was08:04
Blais1*had* this?08:04
predaeus_Not sure havent checked, was just very faint. very silent.08:04
Blais1I'm using Edgy08:05
Blais1perhaps the latest version would be better08:05
Blais1I can't seem to upgrade though08:05
Blais1using the system updater08:05
Xs1t0rywhy dont you just burn the iso and go from there08:07
BFTDBlais1 if you get the alt cd to feisty, you can upgrade off of that08:08
Blais1My PC is oldish (1.3ghz Athlon) will the performance suffer?08:08
Blais11GB RAM08:08
BFTDBlais1 that's not to bad, so Xubuntu is perfect for you08:09
Blais1so you wuold recommend 7.04 iso?08:09
Blais1of Xubuntu08:09
BFTDyes I do08:10
Blais1ok, I'll try it, thank you08:10
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krillepilleHi. I have a problem...08:15
krillepilleOr 2.08:16
tininHow do I change the refresh rate or resolution of the boot and power off screens?08:18
tinini've got a very old monitor08:19
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TaJMoXHow do I make a program auto start?09:36
TaJMoXfor example, I want tilda, gaim, and checkgmail to run automatically every time i start the comptuer09:45
j1mcTaJMoX: go to Applications > Settings > Autostarted Applications09:46
j1mcthen click on the "add" button09:46
TaJMoXoh dear me09:46
TaJMoXwas that there previous version??09:46
j1mcbtw, i know the guy who wrote tilda.  he's a cool guy.  :)09:47
j1mca previous version?09:47
j1mcof what?09:47
TaJMoXof xubuntu09:47
j1mcoh, i'm not sure...09:48
TaJMoXsomehow i remember having to make a ~/Desktop/Autostart folder09:48
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ablomenTaJMoX, nah that is ~/.config/autostart/09:53
TaJMoXah thats right09:53
hyper_chhiho Jester4509:54
Jester45im having problems with cron09:54
hyper_chwhat problems?09:54
Jester45would anyone know why nothing runs by cron? i put the command in crontab but nothing happens09:55
hyper_chJester45: I use cron quite simple09:55
ablomenJester45, could you paste a line?09:55
hyper_chI write a text file:    cron.txt09:55
hyper_chand then I just add it by issuing:   crontab cron.txt09:55
Jester450,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * root xfdesktop --reload09:56
Jester45yea i didnt want to both with running itas a user09:56
hyper_chroot is not a command09:57
hyper_chadd the cron to the root crontab09:57
Jester45its the user thats runs xfdesktop --reload09:57
ablomenJester45, that doesnt work that09:58
Jester45that line is in /etc/crontab09:58
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ablomenjust run sudo crontab -e if you want to run something as root09:58
Jester45do i have to do that each boot?09:58
hyper_chJester45: I don't understand what you want to do09:59
ablomenhyper_ch, ah..09:59
ablomenhyper_ch, it adds the user in /etc/crontab09:59
Jester45i want to run xfdesktop --replace every 5 mins09:59
ablomen# m h dom mon dow user  command09:59
Jester45eer --reload*10:00
hyper_chJester45: do it differently10:00
Jester45hyper_ch, how10:00
ablomenJester45, use the full paths10:01
hyper_chJester45: use this as a shell script10:01
hyper_chand then run this script in cron10:01
hyper_ch0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * sh /home/hyper/wallpaperchanger.sh10:02
hyper_chthat is in my cron.txt10:02
hyper_chand then add it to cron itself by issuing:   crontab cron.txt10:02
Jester45im confused10:02
Jester45why renice xfdesktop to change the background10:03
hyper_chwell, if you have something important running that you don't want to lag10:03
Jester45it takes like 1/25th of a second10:04
hyper_chdon't renice it then10:05
Jester45so crontab cant do commands they have to be scripts?10:05
hyper_chcrontab can to an extent... but I found it simpler to make little scripts10:06
Jester45ok i got the script10:09
Jester45now how to add to cron?10:09
Jester45i have been editing /etc/crontab10:09
hyper_chJester45: I make im my home folder a cron.txt10:10
hyper_chcopy the cron command in there10:10
hyper_chand add it by:   crontab cron.txt10:10
Jester45so but the entries into the .txt then crontab it?10:11
hyper_chthis is in my cron.txt:   0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * sh /home/hyper/wallpaperchanger.sh10:11
Jester45sh is the user?10:11
hyper_chsh is the command to run a shell script10:12
Jester45how do i tell cron to run it as root10:12
hyper_chsudo crontab cron.txt10:12
hyper_chthen it will be added to the root cron10:12
hyper_chbut why do you want to do that?10:12
Jester45some times the diffrent ways to do 1 thing in linux is frustrating to learn10:13
Jester45so that anyuser's desktop changes10:13
Jester45and to update the entry? just sudo crontab it again?10:14
hyper_chedit the text file10:14
hyper_chand then again:  sudo crontab cron.txt10:15
Jester45now to make one start mpd as an alarm clock :)10:15
hyper_chI just like to have my cron jobs in a text files... makes it much simpler to edit and transfer10:15
Jester450 9 * * * alarmclock.sh10:16
hyper_chthat should work10:16
Jester45alarmclock.sh = mpc volume mpc play10:17
Jester45volume = 10010:17
Jester45and a htokey to turn it off :010:17
hyper_chI use my cellphone as alarm clock10:19
SharnOr just sudo crontab -e to edit roots crontab file....10:19
SharnAnd, if your using xfce you don't need a seperate script to change the wallpaper.10:20
hyper_chSharn: how do you do it then?10:21
SharnOne sec10:21
hyper_chkde has an integrated changer10:21
hyper_chxfce only changes upon boot10:21
Sharn0,15,30,45 * * * * killall -USR1 xfdesktop10:21
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SharnThat's mine10:21
SharnAnd it works great for me.10:21
hyper_chI had that also a long time ago10:22
hyper_chSharn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32879210:22
hyper_chhiho slow-motion10:22
slow-motionhi hyper_ch10:23
hyper_chslow-motion: still up this late?10:23
hyper_chslow-motion: not going out?10:24
slow-motioni'm a linux user10:24
Sharnhyper_ch, so what is in your wallpaperchanger.sh?10:24
hyper_chSharn: well, I took one of the suggestions to my thread:   http://phpfi.com/24620610:25
hyper_chslow-motion: so? Linux is portable ;)10:26
SharnMmk. Is it better, or faster or something? I know so very little about bash scripting. :P10:27
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slow-motioni'm watching tv at the moment10:27
hyper_chell, if you play games e.g. cs and you don't want anything to use the cpu too much it will first set the priority to lowest....10:27
hyper_chit's just more advanced...10:28
SharnMeh, compiz-fusion has my desktop all confused anyway.10:28
hyper_chbut you're right, the killall -USR xfdesktop works fine10:28
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nihangI want a xubuntu cd10:30
hyper_chdownload it10:31
nihangAnyone there?10:31
nihangI can't. I'm on 56K.10:31
hyper_chorder one through shipit10:32
Jester45you can10:32
Jester45but you dont want to10:32
Jester45because it will take a month10:32
nihangCan I really order a xubuntu cd?10:33
hyper_chdunno, have a look there10:33
nihangNo, I checked and you can't order10:34
SharnI don't think you can10:34
Jester45you cn order a ubuntu, then convert it10:35
nihangHow to convert ubuntu into xubuntu?10:35
Jester45install a server (cli) version from the shipit cd then run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop10:35
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nihangThanks, Jester45. Will try...10:36
Jester45xubuntu is baseded off of ubuntu, it has all the same core packages10:36
linuxnubwow 1100 in #ubuntu and 73 in here lol10:36
hyper_chthat will still require a lot to download10:36
Jester45and the same repo, you can have ubuntu and xubuntu installed at the same time if you wanted10:36
hyper_chlinuxnub: so what?10:36
nihangJester45. Does that mean it will need to download something?10:36
hyper_chnihang: yes10:37
Jester45nihang, yes all the xfce stuff, ~300mb10:37
Jester45or can just install ubuntu10:37
linuxnubhow do you get rid of all the gnome specific crap after you apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ??10:37
hyper_ch!language | linuxnub10:37
ubotulinuxnub: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:37
Jester45linuxnub, have fun with that10:37
Jester45nihang, the only problem you might wantto tink about10:38
linuxnubi already did the apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop10:38
linuxnuband the autoremove for the libs10:38
hyper_chlinuxnub: have a look at psychocats website... all relevant packages are listed there10:38
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linuxnubya seen that its a very long list10:39
Jester45nihang, is that if you install a cli server, you have to set up your dial up via cli wich is harder. but if you dual-boot or have a 2nd computer you can transfer the xubuntu-dsktop packages over so that its simpler10:39
linuxnubive done the fusesmb install too for thunar works great10:39
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linuxnubwould doing an apt-get remove gnome do the trick or would that screw things up10:40
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Jester45fuseftp is better than any filemanager could do... it even lets to use it in the cli10:40
hyper_chlinuxnub: hmmm, if the trick to completly remove gnome can be done with removing one package, why do you think did psychocat list all the relevant packages?10:41
linuxnubto get back to pure xfce10:41
hyper_chJester45: ever had a look at konqui?10:41
linuxnubwhich is not necessarily the right thing to do with xubuntu10:41
linuxnubmatter of fact thats probably pretty dumb to do with xubuntu10:42
hyper_chlinuxnub: then you did not carefully read what psychocat writes10:42
Jester45nixternal, i could help you out a little by pre downloading the packages and compressing it all10:44
hyper_chJester45: nihang left10:44
Jester45i just ni<tab>10:44
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linuxnubwell fuseftp or fusesmb i guess they both work pretty well10:45
linuxnubfor me fusesmb absolutely screams in thunar10:45
Jester45yea... but the ubuntu repos doesnt have smb support :010:47
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TaJMoXhyper_ch im using your wallpaper script it works way better than what i had before (closer to what you used Sharn)10:53
hyper_chTaJMoX: those suggestions aren't from me... someone made them in my howto and I just use them now also10:54
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maximilian1stHi folks12:11
maximilian1stTo the gutsy gibbon users wanting to get rid of Network Manager for the wireless side, I can suggest to take a look at the Airconfig project. http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig It works here on my notebook and looks very promising.12:13
maximilian1stit depends on ghal which is to be found on the same svn server and location as airconfig itself.12:16
Jester45i will past that on, i myself im hooked to gbit networking12:18
Jester45i tink i would blast my brains out if transfering all my data over wireless12:18
Jester45hyper_ch, my cron is still not working but i will talk about that later12:19

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