[12:29] <tinin_> well, tomorrow i'll try with the other network card
[12:30] <tinin_> i think i've learned too much weird words
[12:31] <tinin_> i'm going to google those files
[12:33] <tinin_> btw, i used alternate cd to install xubuntu, does the desktop cd recognize this things? will i have internet from a live cd?
[12:34] <cellofellow> you may
[12:34] <vidd_laptop> you can try it
[12:34] <tinin_> yeah
[12:34] <tinin_> downloading
[12:55] <huascar80> hi, just installed xubuntu... is there any way of making the applications menu bigger? it is SO small...
[12:56] <huascar80> especially the icons
[12:57] <huascar80> :-/
[12:58] <huascar80> :-(
[12:58] <huascar80> plz
[12:58] <huascar80> :-((
[12:59] <vidd_laptop> what is your resolution set at?
[12:59] <huascar80> 1280
[12:59] <huascar80> i mean is it even possible? i've been searching the control panel upside down!
[01:00] <vidd_laptop> set your resolution lower
[01:01] <huascar80> guess that's a workaround (and i appreciate ayway) but not a solution
[01:06] <geck0> does anyone know how to use preload?
[01:08] <geck0> I did sudo apt-get install preload
[01:08] <geck0> But where do I set which applications I want to preload?
[01:09] <TheSheep_> geck0: I think it works dynamically
[01:10] <TheSheep_> geck0: that is, it "learns"
[01:10] <geck0> sorry, can you put that in stupid people terms?
[01:10] <geck0> ok thanks =P
[01:10] <geck0> hehe
[01:10] <TheSheep_> geck0: look into /etc/preload.conf
[01:11] <geck0> k I found it
[01:12] <geck0> so I don't set up which applications it will preload or anything, it will just go automatically right?
[01:13] <TheSheep_> geck0: yes
[01:13] <geck0> ok, thanks for your help TheSheep!
[01:17] <geck0> is there a good place to find themes for xubuntu?
[01:17] <kalikiana> geck0, http://xfce-look.org/ :)
[01:18] <geck0> thanks =)
[01:25] <geck0> how do I remove applications from the applications menu?
[01:26] <geck0> by the way, sorry for all the silly questions, I'm brand new to linux/xubuntu =)
[01:28] <Eric> Hello
[01:28] <geck0> hi
[01:28] <Eric> We can get help here?
[01:28] <geck0> I'm trying to get help too =) sometimes people respond
[01:28] <geck0> so ask away hehe
[01:29] <Eric> Oh, okay
[01:29] <Eric> Thanks
[01:29] <Eric> If anyone is listening: I
[01:30] <Eric> am running Xubuntu 7.04 and need to know how to connect to WLAN
[01:31] <geck0> eric: try reading this, it may help
[01:31] <geck0> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/WLAN_Autodetect
[01:31] <Eric> Ah thank you kind sir
[01:31] <Eric> I'll try to get this workin
[01:31] <geck0> good luck =)
[01:32] <cellofellow> !wifi | Eric
[01:32] <ubotu> Eric: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:34] <scizzo> I have been following the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.29
[01:35] <scizzo> however....they are saying that if I want to get this session started with the preferences I got I need to go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions and then to Startup Programs -> New and add a new session
[01:35] <scizzo> however....to me that sounds like normal ubuntu path not the xfce path
[01:36] <scizzo> so....my question is pretty much if there is such a session editing in xfce?
[01:36] <TheSheep_> scizzo: settings->autostarted applications
[01:36] <cellofellow> scizzo: and in some things the good-old text editor.
[01:37] <scizzo> hehe.. :)
[01:42] <scizzo> thanks guys...worked just fine
[01:43] <scizzo> :)
[01:47] <vidd_laptop> geck0, what do you need help with?
[01:48] <TheSheep_> geck0: the menu is created from files in /usr/share/applications
[01:48] <TheSheep_> geck0: you can add 'Hidden: true' to any of these files to make them not appear in the menu
[01:52] <vidd_laptop> TheSheep_, how do we add things there to have them show up if they are not there already?
[01:53] <TheSheep_> vidd_laptop: well, create a new .desktop file...
[01:53] <TheSheep_> vidd_laptop: the spec is at freedekstop.org, but you should be able to ltell by just looking
[01:55] <vidd_laptop> where is the file stored?
[02:27] <vidd_laptop> hey GrueTamer
[02:27] <vidd_laptop> how goes it?
[02:27] <Xs1t0ry> Anyone: After choosing Xubuntu in Grub the screen goes black and the loading icon appears but nothing ever happens. Suggestions for troubleshooting?
[02:28] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, is there other items in grub?
[02:29] <Xs1t0ry> vidd_laptop: only the memtest and windows xp
[02:30] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, is it possible that the install failed?
[02:32] <Xs1t0ry> vidd_laptop: no because after the install, PC restarted and i went into fine, then after discovering WLAN didnt work, i went to windows to see how to fix it. when i tried to go back to fix it, i ran into this problem -- it's not starting
[02:32] <vidd_laptop> hrm...strang
[02:34] <Xs1t0ry> yes i cant figure it out
[02:34] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, did you install anything on the windows side?
[02:34] <Xs1t0ry> no
[02:37] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, when the loading icon comes on, hit <ctrl><alt><f4>{i think} to see what system messages say
[02:38] <Xs1t0ry> ok, be back in 5 mins
[02:38] <Xs1t0ry> thanks
[02:51] <Xs1t0ry> vidd_laptop: i tried it but it just brought me to a console
[02:52] <vidd_laptop> one of the tty's will show system messages
[02:53] <Xs1t0ry> all i saw was tty4 written at the top
[02:53] <Xs1t0ry> what am i looking for?
[02:53] <vidd_laptop> for the last command
[02:54] <Xs1t0ry> ok but to be clear, it isnt the loading screen that says xubuntu with the bar, it is the black screen after that which has the loading icon circle (the *buntu vers of the windows hourglass)
[02:54] <Xs1t0ry> does that make any diff?
[02:55] <vidd_laptop> something that should be loading is not...and to fix it, we need to know what it is
[02:56] <vidd_laptop> try tty1...i cant remember which one it is
[02:56] <vidd_laptop> =\
[02:58] <Xs1t0ry> try it?
[02:58] <Xs1t0ry> what do you mean?
[02:58] <Xs1t0ry> i type that in the cmd line?
[02:59] <vidd_laptop> see if <ctrl><alt><f1> shows the commands as they are loaded
[03:00] <Xs1t0ry> ok brb
[03:05] <vidd_laptop> wb Xs1t0ry
[03:06] <vidd_laptop> anything?
[03:06] <Xs1t0ry> vidd: in tty1 it stops at 'running boot scripts' or something like that and it brackets says '/etc/r.local' or something
[03:06] <Xs1t0ry> in tty8 it says loading console fonts and keyboard stuff when it stops responsding
[03:06] <Xs1t0ry> tty2-7 are just blank consoles
[03:07] <Xs1t0ry> and if i press enter it allows me to enter my username and password in the console and will log me in
[03:07] <Xs1t0ry> but only in the console, never to the desktop
[03:07] <vidd_laptop> do there is an issue with your desktop.....
[03:07] <Xs1t0ry> yes it doesnt seem to be loading
[03:08] <Xs1t0ry> which ive never heard of
[03:08] <Xs1t0ry> its like bsod from boot
[03:08] <Xs1t0ry> like having hands but no eyes... advice?
[03:08] <Lanken> I have a Xubuntu Dapper install whose kernel is too primitive for me to install modem drivers.
[03:09] <Lanken> can I download kernel sources or the next version of the kernel?
[03:09] <Xs1t0ry> lanken: you can upgrade up to 7.04 now i think
[03:10] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: the trouble is I don't have any bandwidth
[03:10] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: I'm on dial-up
[03:10] <Xs1t0ry> lanken: do you have a dual-boot?
[03:10] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: and I need to upgrade the kernel if I want Xubuntu to have any connnectivity at all.
[03:10] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: I have an XP machine next to it that has dial-up
[03:11] <Xs1t0ry> Lanken: can't you mount the latest vers and then put it on your machine?
[03:11] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: the latest version of what?
[03:12] <Xs1t0ry> Lanken: the kernel/whole OS
[03:12] <vidd_laptop> basically, i think your desktop needs to be restarted....
[03:12] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: I'm sure I could if I had the bandwidth to download the new version of the kernel/whole OS
[03:12] <Xs1t0ry> Lanken: what i mean is use your xp machine to d/l it and then burn it
[03:13] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, from comand line, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:13] <Xs1t0ry> Lanken: or does your xp machine not have enough bandwidth?
[03:13] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: the XP machine has dial-up too.
[03:13] <Xs1t0ry> Lanken: shit. i would say order a new disk by snail mail but that takes 6-8 weeks
[03:14] <Xs1t0ry> vidd_laptop: ok ill try that one sec
[03:14] <Lanken> rofl.
[03:14] <Lanken> Xs1t0ry: in two weeks I'll have bandwidth again.
[03:14] <Xs1t0ry> Lanken: how so?
[03:14] <mrigns_> Lanken: hey, long time no see :D
[03:15] <Lanken> mrigns_: hey dude.
[03:15] <Xs1t0ry> vidd: it will work with xubuntu also even though the desktop environment is xfce?
[03:15] <Lanken> mrigns_: I've been in #linguistics.
[03:15] <mrigns_> 1337 :D
[03:15] <Lanken> mrigns_: your scrollback will tell you that I have dial-up here -_-
[03:16] <Lanken> but I do have a sweet new thinkpad yay.
[03:16] <vidd_laptop> Lanken, why do you need to update the kernel?
[03:16] <mrigns_> X)
[03:16] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: the kernel I have (which came with a 6.06 iso) is too old to use the drivers for my software modem.
[03:17] <mrigns_> Lanken: I'm back idling. cya around
[03:17] <vidd_laptop> so you have no broadbrand?
[03:17] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: right.
[03:18] <vidd_laptop> do you have dial-up?
[03:18] <Lanken> yes, on my XP box.
[03:18] <vidd_laptop> so why dont you do this....(man i hate suggesting this!)
[03:19] <vidd_laptop> on your xp box, set up internet connection sharing....
[03:19] <vidd_laptop> connect your linux box to it via a crossover cable....
[03:20] <vidd_laptop> then edit your sources.list file to edgy....
[03:21] <vidd_laptop> then sudo apt-get (or aptitude if you prefer) update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:21] <Lanken> I don't think I have a crossover cable.
[03:21] <vidd_laptop> do you have a router?
[03:21] <Lanken> I can look for a cat5 cable and maybe mod it.
[03:22] <Lanken> no, no router
[03:22] <Lanken> no reason for any of that gunk in a house without broadband
[03:22] <Lanken> until now
[03:22] <Lanken> (actually, connection-sharing sounds neat, I should tell my dad about that)
[03:22] <Lanken> neat.
[03:23] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, any luck?
[03:23] <Xs1t0ry> vidd: desktop flashed on the screen for a split second then went back to the loading screen again
[03:24] <Xs1t0ry> however I think i mightve turned on the remote login
[03:24] <Xs1t0ry> where can i find the command to turn it off in the console?
[03:24] <vidd_laptop> idn
[03:24] <Xs1t0ry> remote login seems like an explanation anyways
[03:24] <Xs1t0ry> ?
[03:25] <vidd_laptop> it is possible...i never used it
[03:27] <Xs1t0ry> in the options i mustve checked 'enable remote login'
[03:27] <Xs1t0ry> thats the only thing i changed, before that it worked
[03:28] <vidd_laptop> Lanken, you might be able to use a regular cable
[03:28] <vidd_laptop> Xs1t0ry, if that is all you changed, then it is the likely cause
[03:28] <Xs1t0ry> vidd: yea i changed it because i was curious
[03:29] <Xs1t0ry> vidd: now i need to figure out how to turn it back
[03:31] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: I actually don't have any cat5 at all.
[03:31] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: thanks for the education though.
[03:31] <vidd_laptop> you have wireless Lanken ?
[03:35] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: both machines have internal wireless cards
[03:35] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: the linux laptop has an intel card, so hopefully it's easy to get working under linux.
[03:35] <vidd_laptop> Lanken, then try to steal a neighbor's broadband
[03:35] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[03:36] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: rofl.
[03:36] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: we have dial-up because we're in the boonies.
[03:40] <vidd_laptop> gee.... Lanken are you in virginia by chace?
[03:41] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: New Hampshire
[03:41] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: it's pretty remote.
[03:42] <vidd_laptop> if both of your computers have wifi...then set up an ad-hok network, and send the ICS over that Lanken
[03:43] <Lanken> vidd_laptop: can you do that?  you don't need a router?
[03:43] <vidd_laptop> Lanken, no...that is why its called "ad-hok"
[03:43] <vidd_laptop> lol
[03:53] <R[a] ndom> ad hoc
[03:53] <vidd_laptop> R[a] ndom, i never said i could spell =] 
[03:54] <R[a] ndom> s'aight.  I'm just a big correction nazi.
[03:54] <R[a] ndom> ok, only sometimes
[03:54] <R[a] ndom> apparently ad hoc translates to "for this purpose"
[03:55] <R[a] ndom> I don't see how that describes a peer to peer connection
[03:56] <vidd_laptop> its a "for this purpose" network connection (this being purposely undefined)
[03:57] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[03:58] <Lanken> grrr...does xubuntu ship build-essential in the iso?
[03:59] <vidd_laptop> idk
[03:59] <Lanken> what's the relevant metapackage called?
[03:59] <Lanken> build-essential?
[03:59] <vidd_laptop> i guess....
[03:59] <vidd_laptop> idk
[04:07] <Catoptromancy>  [21:58]  Lanken: grrr...does xubuntu ship build-essential in the iso?
[04:07] <Catoptromancy> no
[04:07] <Catoptromancy> i need to sudo aptitude install it
[05:01] <vidd_laptop> k-lined?
[05:02] <agentnoob> what happened to #ubuntu?
[05:05] <agentnoob> !ubotu #ubuntu
[05:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <agentnoob> !ubotu irc
[05:05] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:06] <vidd_laptop> looks like there was a flood attack
[05:10] <agentnoob> yeah something not right
[05:29] <Chikubu> hi ppl, ive lost my gui on boot...i don't get a what i think is the gdm greet screen with logon, i just get a plain terminal logon, which i have to run startx to get my desktop back, ive looked at the gdm.conf file and it looks ok, suggestions on how i can get the greeter back on boot?
[05:29] <Chikubu> this happened after a distro upgrade of about 118 megs
[05:31] <vidd_laptop> Chikubu, check your boot script...
[05:32] <vidd_laptop> it is possible that it is missing startx
[06:19] <vidd_laptop> !rar
[06:19] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:20] <vidd_laptop> !info unrar-free
[06:20] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:35] <Chikubu> what does the command cat /ect/fstab do??
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Chikubu: lists the contents of the file located at /etc/fstab
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> !fstab
[06:47] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:47] <Chikubu> and if your fstab file is mising or doesnt exist?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Chikubu: similar to opening it a text editor read-only, kinda.
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Chikubu: then you have a mighty interesting situation....  Note that it's /etc, not /ect.
[06:50] <Chikubu> ah heck i found it
[06:50] <Chikubu> my contacts need cleaning ugg
[06:51] <Chikubu> im having a problem at boot...i used to get a gui logon, but now all i get is terminal logon, with some kinit errors referencing /dev/disk/by-uuid
[06:52] <Chikubu> i can logon at the terminal login and run startx to get my desktop
[06:52] <Chikubu> but id like the old behaviour back
[06:52] <Chikubu> there are a bunch of bug reports about this but no solutions
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> I haven't heard about it frankly, so I doubt I can help on that one.  (UUID is still a mystery to me)
[06:56] <Chikubu> fstab file has refrences to my hard drive commented out - - -/dev/hda1 and hada5 and looks like UUID referneces instead...i wonder if the upgrade switched them
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[06:58] <Chikubu> the line # /dev/hda1  is replaced with a long UUID=yadayadayda  or so it seems....dare i switch them around?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> You could try - it wouldn't be the "preferred" way of doing things, but it may be a temporary workaround until you find a real solution.
[06:59] <Chikubu> ah well i can always run tirc hehe
[06:59] <Chikubu> here goes nuthin
[07:01] <Chikubu> there is a fstab.pre-uuid right below it, but nothing much in it but a comment
[07:01] <Chikubu> ah well reboot time
[07:02] <cellofellow> next time tell Chikabu about !uuid
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> cellofellow: good catch - a moment too late :S  Thanks.
[07:12] <Jester45> i keep saying
[07:13] <Jester45> ubotu need to have some sort of wb message
[07:14] <Jester45> so that only register users (no spam) can tell it to tell a message to the person
[07:14] <Jester45> so like this case when chikubu come back ubotu would say right away, cellofellow wanted you to know !uuid
[07:15] <cellofellow> good idea
[07:15] <Jester45> but...
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Jester45: There actually is such a function already written - it's just not in ubotu at this time.
[07:15] <Jester45> nobody likes me
[08:03] <shirish> guys how do I enable compiz in xubuntu gutsy?
[08:04] <cellofellow> !compiz
[08:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:04] <cellofellow> try the other channel
[08:04] <vidd_laptop> !gutsy
[08:04] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <shirish> oh ok thanx guys
[08:06] <shirish> cellofellow: the thing is I'm running xfce & can't find desktop effects in xfce , but if you guys feel ubunut+1 is the correct place to ask that question, will do so
[08:06] <cellofellow> desktop effects in xfce4 are limited to transparent windows.
[08:55] <hyper_ch> hiho
[09:23] <Hansel> For some reason every single window I open has the same window title... the letter o... any way I can get it to use whatever the default should be for each application I open?
[09:23] <Hansel> or what setting I may have jacked up?
[09:25] <j1mc> Hansel: is the o in the upper left-corner?
[09:25] <Hansel> yes
[09:25] <j1mc> click it.  :)
[09:25] <Hansel> ...a dot gets filled in... ?
[09:26] <j1mc> yeah... sorta.  with it filled in, look in your lower-right corner
[09:26] <Hansel> ah... okay, I'm retarded... lol
[09:26] <j1mc> ... of your screen.
[09:26] <j1mc> it takes the app you're using, and puts it in all of your virtual desktops
[09:26] <Hansel> I feel unworthy asking for help to get my wireless working now.. .hhehe
[09:27] <j1mc> haha
[09:27] <j1mc> i can try to help with that if you'd like
[09:27] <Hansel> I have a Cisco wireless card... Aironet 350
[09:28] <j1mc> ok
[09:28] <Hansel> it can detect the card cause all the lights come on...
[09:28] <Hansel> I just cant get an IP from my wireless router.
[09:28] <Hansel> I have WEP enabled.  I just want to be able to scan for local networks as opposed to having to type it all in manually.
[09:28] <j1mc> hmmm...
[09:29] <hyper_ch> why use WEP?
[09:29] <Hansel> when I go into Network Settings I see 2 wireless connections wifi0 and eth1... I believe eth1 is the one it should be.
[09:29] <j1mc> what version of xubuntu are you using?
[09:29] <Hansel> I could use WPA or something else...
[09:29] <Hansel> uhm... Fiesty?
[09:29] <Hansel> I just want to be able to scan for networks... so no matter what encryption they are using I can pick and choose.
[09:30] <Hansel> right now I'm not connected to anything and the lights are flashing like bonkers.
[09:30] <j1mc> so, do you know the command, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"?
[09:30] <Hansel> status and activity lights...
[09:30] <Hansel> k... its just showing 1... the ESSID is baby.  Mine is pigvomit... it isnt in the list.  :(
[09:31] <Hansel> ooh... I ran it again and it showed up!
[09:31] <j1mc> ok... and it says the key is on?
[09:31] <Hansel> Encryption key:on
[09:31] <j1mc> yeah
[09:32] <Hansel> is there a way I can get this to show up in the gui interface?  I am giving this to my dad and he can't handle a command line...
[09:32] <j1mc> i'm not sure what types of encryption this works on, and what it doesn't work on, but...
[09:32] <hyper_ch> Hansel: the only secure thing I know is Radius
[09:32] <j1mc> hyper_ch: what is Radius?
[09:32] <hyper_ch> Radius server so that even the login connection thing will be encrypted
[09:32] <j1mc> ah
[09:32] <hyper_ch> WPA can "easily" be hacked because the handshake part is not encrypted
[09:33] <hyper_ch> !bug 1
[09:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:33] <j1mc> Hansel: if you want this to be done by a gui, then you'd probably want to use network-manager-gnome
[09:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[09:35] <j1mc> network-manager-gnome has some gnome-libs that it depends on, and xubunteros don't like that.  :)  ... but, it's better than nothing for those who need a gui for now.
[09:35] <Hansel> jlmc - k... I'm apt-getting it now... or attempting to anyhow.
[09:35] <j1mc> Hansel: how are you connected to the internet now?
[09:36] <topcat1027> can somebody help me... when i go into add remove programs, all the programs say i can't download them, my hardware doesn't support it, blabla
[09:36] <Hansel> I connected the cable to my laptop... google comes up but apt-get is attempting to pull from us.archive.ubuntu.com and stalling out...
[09:37] <hyper_ch> Hansel: can you ping anything?
[09:37] <Hansel> yeah... google responds
[09:37] <Hansel> I pull up firefox and it loads fine.
[09:37] <hyper_ch> Hansel: maybe the that server is down
[09:38] <hyper_ch> Hansel: you know, this can happen ;)
[09:38] <Hansel> always to me... :(
[09:38] <Hansel> heh
[09:38] <j1mc> topcat1027: can you post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file in http://pastebin.ca ?
[09:39] <hyper_ch> Hansel: replace "us" with "ch"
[09:39] <hyper_ch> Hansel: and test if that works
[09:39] <Hansel> k... lemme pull up my sources.list
[09:39] <hyper_ch> Hansel: just a couple of minutes ago I looked if there are updates on the swiss servers
[09:39] <Hansel> running apt-get update... hold
[09:41] <hyper_ch> and ..... ?
[09:41] <j1mc> sorry, but i need to go to bed.  take care, all
[09:42] <Hansel> strange... I updated my sources.list then ran apt-get update and its stalling out on us.archive.ubuntu.com even though I replaced them all with ch.
[09:42] <hyper_ch> hmmm, that is really strange
[09:42] <hyper_ch> are you sure you have replaced them all=?
[09:43] <Hansel> yeah...
[09:43] <Hansel> very odd
[09:43] <Hansel> my laptop has a mind of its own
[09:43] <hyper_ch> cool ;)
[09:43] <hyper_ch> ai
[09:43] <Hansel> heh.
[09:43] <Hansel> now I cant apt-get gnome-network-manager...
[09:44] <Hansel> err... I guess thats probably because its network-manager-gnome, huh?  hehe
[09:44] <Hansel> I'm retarded tonight
[09:44] <hyper_ch> ???
[11:53] <bart_17> hi
[11:53] <vinze> Hi
[11:54] <bart_17> vinze: i have an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run xubuntu fiesty decently on this pc?
[11:55] <hyper_ch> yes, I think so
[11:55] <hyper_ch> bart_17: yes
[11:55] <bart_17> does xubuntu play mp3's out of the box?
[11:55] <bart_17> thanx
[11:55] <vinze> No
[11:55] <vinze> But it's not difficult to add support
[11:55] <hyper_ch> bart_17: but it can be easily made to play them
[11:55] <vinze> http://www.xubuntu.org/get#requirements
[11:56] <bart_17> ok.. i'm a noob
[11:56] <vinze> No problem :D
[11:56] <hyper_ch> bart_17: just add the medibuntu repository and fetch the codecs :)
[11:56] <AlexC> No
[11:56] <vinze> hyper_ch, what's wrong with Gstreamer?
[11:56] <vinze> (Except that gxine doesn't use it ;)
[11:56] <hyper_ch> vinze: I don't use it
[11:56] <vinze> I always see this medibuntu repo mentioned but I have never used it and I'm playing an MP3 right now
[11:56] <bart_17> would i be able to do it even without an internet connection?
[11:57] <vinze> Well, you'd have to download it from somewhere else
[11:57] <hyper_ch> vinze: medibuntu repo has a few things more than just the mp3 codecs
[11:57] <vinze> But I suppose you'll then also be downloading the Xubuntu CD somewhere else
[11:57] <vinze> hyper_ch, like what?
[11:57] <vinze> You mean DVD's and stuff?
[11:57] <hyper_ch> vinze: have a look at what they offer
[11:58] <vinze> Oh I see
[11:58] <vinze> hyper_ch, thanks
[11:58] <bart_17> i can download it here, but my old pc is in the farm and we don't have an internet connection there
[11:58] <vinze> OK, do you have a USB drive or anything which you could save it to?
[11:59] <AlexC> can you get mp3 codecs without adding repos?
[11:59] <vinze> Yeah
[11:59] <vinze> AlexC, you can download the packages manually
[11:59] <hyper_ch> can vlc by default play mp3s?
[11:59] <bart_17> yes, i just need to know where to download and how to install
[12:00] <vinze> OK, hold on a sec..
[12:00] <hyper_ch> bart_17: if you download the .deb files you just double-click them on the desktop
[12:00] <hyper_ch> bart_17: they are sort of like .exe files
[12:00] <vinze> bart_17, what version of Xubuntu will you be using?
[12:00] <bart_17> ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i fiesty
[12:00] <bart_17> ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i'll be installing fiesty fiesty
[12:00] <vinze> OK, I'll look it up
[12:01] <bart_17> ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i'll be installing fiesty
[12:01] <bart_17> thanx
[12:01] <AlexC> yea
[12:01] <AlexC> vlc has codecs inclosed
[12:01] <hyper_ch> bart_17: http://packages.ubuntu.com  --> but those are only the official repos... so no mp3 codecs
[12:02] <vinze> hyper_ch, if you download vlc from there then I suppose you'll have MP3 support then
[12:02] <hyper_ch> vinze: if it's enclosed I think they will play...
[12:02] <hyper_ch> bart_17: how long will you still be online?
[12:02] <bart_17> long, y?
[12:03] <vinze> hyper_ch, only problem is the amount of dependencies when downloading it manually
[12:03] <hyper_ch> I guess I'll just install xubuntu feisty in vmware and see what it fetches
[12:03] <bart_17> ok, thanx
[12:03] <hyper_ch> bart_17: you have no inet available after you install feisty?
[12:04] <vinze> I was thinking about the "Generate Package Download Script" feature in Synaptic
[12:04] <bart_17> nope, as the pc is in our other house...
[12:05] <bart_17> and that pc doesn't have a network card
[12:05] <hyper_ch> vinze: will you install xubi feisty in a virtual box?
[12:05] <hyper_ch> vinze: my cpu is currently doing massive things ;)
[12:05] <vinze> I'll just run the LiveCD and generate the download script
[12:05] <vinze> lol
[12:05] <hyper_ch> vinze: ok ;) thx
[12:05] <vinze> np
[12:06] <bart_17> heya guys, where are you from if you don't mind me asking
[12:06] <hyper_ch> vinze: and you can also downloadand install vlc to see whether it does actually play mp3s out of the box
[12:06] <hyper_ch> bart_17: from home
[12:06] <vinze> hyper_ch, yeah, that's what I planned to do first ;)
[12:06] <vinze> bart_17, the Netherlansd
[12:06] <vinze> *The Netherlands
[12:07] <hyper_ch> Hollnder ^^
[12:07] <bart_17> i'm from the philippines..
[12:07] <vinze> :P
[12:08] <hyper_ch> damn, my cpu is constantly at 100% ^^
[12:08] <vinze> Mine too but I meant it to :P
[12:08] <vinze> What're you doing?
[12:08] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 531/1017GB, RAM: 996/1010MB, 157 proc's, 15.39h up
[12:08] <hyper_ch> hmmm, ktorrent is running
[12:08] <hyper_ch> amarok is playing music
[12:08] <hyper_ch> I'm copying DVDs to my harddisk
[12:09] <hyper_ch> I'm untarring downloaded torrents
[12:09] <hyper_ch> that'sa bout it
[12:09] <bart_17> which would be a better way to install xubuntu, with the livecd or the alternate?
[12:09] <vinze> Oooo, that's about nothing :P
[12:09] <hyper_ch> alternate
[12:09] <vinze> I prefer the LiveCD
[12:09] <hyper_ch> vinze: got an old computer
[12:09] <vinze> Try doing that with WinXP :P
[12:10] <hyper_ch> for installation the alternate normally gives less headache
[12:10] <vinze> True
[12:10] <bart_17> ok.. will be downloading the alternate then...
[12:10] <vinze> Might be a bit more scary, but it's not really difficult
[12:10] <bart_17> just a sec..
[12:10] <vinze> hyper_ch, how did you get that sysinfo?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> scary? I think it's a lot simpler than a winxp install
[12:10] <hyper_ch> vinze: using konversation... it's a script there
[12:11] <vinze> O k
[12:11] <hyper_ch> vinze: want the source?
[12:11] <vinze> Nah don't bother
[12:13] <hyper_ch> vinze: maybe you can adapt it for xchat:    http://phpfi.com/246084
[12:14] <vinze> Now just need to  figure out how it works ;)
[12:14] <hyper_ch> dunno
[12:14] <bart_17> hyper_ch: u think its easier to install ubunut than winxp??
[12:14] <hyper_ch> bart_17: yes, if the hardware is being recognized... it's a lot simpler
[12:16] <bart_17> i would say that they are probably at the same
[12:16] <vinze> Does Windows install as a LiveCD?
[12:16] <vinze> :P
[12:16] <bart_17> i am downloading xubuntu fiesty alternate now..
[12:16] <hyper_ch> does windows know what a livecd is?
[12:16] <vinze> ;-)
[12:16] <bart_17> vinze: nope...
[12:17] <bart_17> hehheheh
[12:17] <vinze> Lol
[12:17] <vinze> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BartPE
[12:18] <bart_17> i would disagree... probably 4gb ram, c2d 2.0Ghz ehhehe
[12:19] <bart_17> i have the xubuntu fiesty livecd and booted it before.... i had one problem though
[12:19] <bart_17> i could not go beyond a 640X480 screen resolution
[12:19] <hyper_ch> ATI?
[12:19] <vinze> That's annoying...
[12:21] <bart_17> nope... it's a built in videocard... sis, i installed suse 9.1 personal last wek and i was able to go to 1024X768, but it was kinda too slow for me
[12:21] <bart_17> SiS 530 chipset
[12:21] <hyper_ch> no clue... I only use nvidia
[12:24] <bart_17> ok... but how do you configure the screen resolution?
[12:24] <vinze> Applications->Settings->Display Settings
[12:25] <bart_17> but it only has 640X480 nothing else..
[12:26] <vinze> Then you'd have to mess with some configuration files (Gutsy, the next version, will have a graphical tool to do this)
[12:26] <vinze> See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[12:27] <bart_17> thanx
[12:30] <bart_17> btw, how can i play, divx/xvid avi and mkv videos in xubuntu??
[12:30] <vinze> Also with vlc I guess
[12:30] <bart_17> ok thanx
[12:37] <bart_17> hyper_ch: how do i get/install vlc?
[12:38] <vinze> bart_17, I'm still working on it, but it seems to hang a bit :(
[12:38] <hyper_ch> if you have internet:  sudo aptitude install vlc
[12:39] <slow-motion> hello
[12:39] <vinze> Hey
[12:39] <bart_17> how about if i don;t have an internet connection??
 bart_17, I'm still working on it, but it seems to hang a bit :(
[12:39] <bart_17> i hope its not much of a bother
[12:39] <vinze> No, np
[12:40] <slow-motion> the bars with the applicatians menu and the programs i have started are gone. how do i get them back?
[12:40] <vinze> Press Alt+F2
[12:40] <vinze> Then type "xfce4-panel"
[12:41] <slow-motion> ah thank yoz
[12:41] <vinze> np
[12:41] <slow-motion> you
[12:41] <bart_17> would it be a lot easier if i have an internet connection??
[12:42] <vinze> Yeah
[12:43] <bart_17> i'll ask my firends if they have a spare nic and i guess i'll just have to drive to the farm and bring the pc here... are you usually here??
[12:43] <vinze> No, I should though
[12:43] <vinze> You can also mail me if you'd like
[12:43] <bart_17> ok.. what's your email add??
[12:44] <vinze> imnotb at gmail
[12:44] <bart_17> mine is
[12:44] <bart_17> bart1105 at gmail
[12:45] <bart_17> still there hyper_ch?
[12:45] <hyper_ch> sort of
[12:48] <bart_17> vinze/hyper_ch: where do you work?
[12:48] <hyper_ch> bart_17: in a law firm
[12:48] <bart_17> vinze: what are you taking up?
[12:48] <vinze> bart_17, taking up?
[12:49] <bart_17> vince are you in college??
[12:49] <vinze> High school
[12:49] <bart_17> wow...
[12:49] <vinze> :P
[12:49] <bart_17> hyper_ch: are you a lawyer??
[12:50] <hyper_ch> bart_17: not yet
[12:50] <bart_17> ok..
[12:52] <bart_17> hyper_ch: hw long have you been using linux??
[12:52] <bart_17> vinze: hw long have you been using linux??
[12:53] <vinze> Emmm... Since Ubuntu Dapper I guess
[12:53] <hyper_ch> on servers for 3 years
[12:53] <vinze> Emm, Warty I mean
[12:53] <vinze> Sorry
[12:53] <hyper_ch> on desktops since last june
[12:54] <bart_17> what were your os before linux??
[12:54] <vinze> WinME, the switch was not that difficult :P
[12:55] <bart_17> winME was crap
[12:55] <vinze> Still is ;-)
[12:55] <vinze> It's still supposed to be lurking around somewhere on my computer
[12:55] <bart_17> i think they recalled it a year or two ago...
[12:55] <vinze> Yeah could be
[12:55] <vinze> I haven't touched it in ages
[12:55] <vinze> I might turn that hard drive into a backup drive or something
[12:56] <bart_17> hhahaha.. i still have a couple of winxp boxes runneing here in the ofc
[12:56] <vinze> :P
[12:57] <bart_17> is it hard to set up my network so i can share files with my winxp boxes??
[12:57] <vinze> No idea, never done it before
[12:58] <bart_17> ok..
[12:58] <predaeus> bart_17, I think you might need samba for that
[12:59] <predaeus> !samba
[12:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:59] <vinze> I believe this blog had quite some posts about it: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/
[01:00] <bart_17> thanx..
[01:01] <bart_17> predaeus: i have 3 winxp box, that is connected to a router and has file sharing enabled.. what i would like to do is change the os in my laptop and configure it that i can share my files with the my laptop and the 3 boxes and vice versa
[01:07] <bart_17> wb hyper_ch
[01:09] <vinze> Oh crap
[01:10] <bart_17> what happend vinze>
[02:31] <Fast--> I have VMware 6.0 installed on my Windows XP Laptop, Anytime I goto install Ubuntu either from mounted image or boot-CD, I get the error message about GBUB not being installed.  In VMware, I have set space for 4gig's for Ubuntu to run on.  Any suggestions?
[02:31] <Fast--> I have posted on Ubuntu forum and figured i'd try here also...
[02:32] <Fast--> ^ <err VMware's forum> ^
[02:33] <AlexC> i've never used VMware
[02:33] <AlexC> but i thought i'de add my two cents
[02:35] <Fast--> is GRUB boot issue common under Ubuntu?
[02:36] <AlexC> GRUB is the loader that the bios looks at to load the OS
[02:36] <AlexC> windows comes with it's own loader
[02:37] <Mnabil> why the dump xubuntu developers fix this crapy bugy installer
[02:37] <Mnabil> *why dun they
[02:37] <AlexC> mnabil, explane
[02:39] <Fast--> so i dont need to even use a boot loader in my config?
[02:39] <Mnabil> AlexC, i got the gutsy release , desktop cd, then i tried to install it on my laptop, this installer is soo bugy !!!!
[02:39] <Mnabil> AlexC, so it's hang , i dun know why is the fuck is this
[02:40] <TheSheep_> !language | Mnabil
[02:40] <ubotu> Mnabil: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <Mnabil> TheSheep_, is that all you care about  ! language !!
[02:41] <AlexC> fast--, i've never used vmware
[02:42] <Fast--> k
[02:43] <TheSheep> Bug #31229
[02:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 31229 in debian-installer "Grub install fails on VMWare SCSI disk" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/31229
[02:46] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: hiho
[02:46] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: huhu :)
[02:50] <adx> hi
[02:50] <TheSheep> Fast--: maybe this is more relevant? Bug #75010
[02:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 75010 in ubiquity "GrubInstaller failed with code 1 " [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75010
[02:50] <TheSheep> adx: hello
[02:52] <adx> Guys i have no clue about xfce , but can anyone tell me how to get a panel in xfce?
[02:53] <TheSheep> adx: it disappeared?
[02:53] <TheSheep> adx: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel'
[02:53] <adx> yup
[02:53] <adx> but this wont get me into shell?
[02:53] <adx> oh
[02:53] <adx> i see (run)
[02:56] <adx> Now its great , i cant get the panel to stick
[02:56] <adx> Would you mind telling me how to get all the window on op of it? :)
[02:56] <adx> top*
[02:57] <adx> Nvm , i did it
[03:00] <Fast--> my drive is showing up as SCSI, but I cant change it to IDE.
[03:00] <Fast--> apparently that seems to be the issue
[03:00] <Fast--> ^ when in fact it is IDE
[03:01] <adx> You are using vmware?
[03:01] <Fast--> yes
[03:01] <Fast-->  Choose: VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced        no IDE selections, only SCSI in drop down
[03:02] <adx> i get this problem once in vmware but i dont remmber how i fixed it , try playing with the settings
[03:02] <TheSheep> Fast--: I think you need to stop the machine before doing this kind of changes
[03:03] <Fast--> yesh
[03:03] <Fast--> and actually I deleted the virtuial partition to start over even lol
[03:03] <TheSheep> Fast--: the virtual machine, I mean
[03:03] <Fast--> I know
[03:04] <Fast--> it's now recreating the v.partition, as I thought maybe under custom there was an option...but ther ewas not @ the point of creating it.
[03:04] <Fast--> would any SCSI selection = an IDE channel <kinda odd question and dont think so..but need to ask>
[03:15] <gambler2003> can somone help me with an install on a Dell Inspiron 1501?
[03:17] <gambler2003> My issue is that Ubutu won't seem to pick up the Hard Dive controler
[03:27] <nzk> How do I open up a rar archive I burned on a CD?
[03:27] <gambler2003> good morning nzk
[03:27] <nzk> It's late afternoon, but ok.
[03:28] <Fast--> VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced
[03:29] <gambler2003> late afternoon ??? Where?
[03:30] <nzk> Moscow.
[03:31] <nzk> Anyway, I put in a PAL dvd into my player which is known to be region free, but Xubuntu isn't automatically detecting it.
[03:31] <gambler2003> Neet.  I was looking for some help with an Ubuntu install can someone help?
[03:34] <gambler2003> I wish I could help with the dvd but untill a few months ago I didn't even know they had "regional formats?
[03:36] <gambler2003> Looks like in I need to check a different place for my issue.
[03:36] <Fast--> gambler2003 <Fast--> VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced
[03:36] <Fast--> oh well, i tried
 How do I open up a rar archive I burned on a CD?                 winrar?
[03:42] <nzk> ...
[03:42] <nzk> I mean in Xubuntu
[03:42] <nzk> But I got it, nevermind
[03:42] <TheSheep> !dvd | nzk
[03:42] <ubotu> nzk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:01] <nzk> What in god's name is making Xubuntu redline with FF, Pidgin, Xchat, and Rhythmbox running?
[04:11] <TheSheep> redline?
[04:20] <adx> hi
[04:21] <adx> Is there any theme for the panel?
[04:38] <predaeus> can someone look at the Applicatons (XFCE menu) menu's icon, right click -> properties and tell me what the default xubuntu icon is called. I removed it but I want to have it back. Please.
[04:39] <masus> hi all
[04:39] <masus> i have install xubuntu with LTSP and configured it
[04:39] <masus> but i can't login from a thinclient
[04:40] <masus> can anybody help ?
[04:40] <masus> i can see the login screen but if i type a username and password i see the login screen again
[04:41] <nzk> You typed it wrong
[04:41] <masus> no
[04:42] <masus> the relase of xubuntu is 6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS
[04:42] <masus> no from the server i can login
[04:42] <totalwormage> is it possible your harddisk is full
[04:42] <masus> with  the same user and pass
[04:42] <masus> no it's a fresh copy
[04:42] <totalwormage> or is it possible your keyboardsettings are changed
[04:42] <masus> yes it can be
[04:43] <masus> if it's changed can i not login
[04:43] <masus> ?
[04:45] <totalwormage> oh well, if it is actually changed then you don't type what you think you type
[04:45] <masus> no it's only numeric
[04:45] <totalwormage> however, i don't know how to fix that
[04:45] <masus> the password
[04:51] <masus> :( can anybody help
[04:51] <adx> Sure
[04:51] <adx> but not me
[04:52] <masus> :|
[04:52] <illu45> masus, I'm doubtful, but can try... what's the problem?
[04:52] <masus> ok i'll explain again
[04:52] <masus> i have a xubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS with LTSP on it
[04:52] <masus> i have configured all the settings on the server
[04:53] <masus> everything seems to be ok but if i connect via a thinclient ican see the login screen but cant login
[04:54] <masus> i type the user and pass and after 3-4 seconds the login screen is showing again
[04:56] <illu45> Hm... You might want to check the configuration readme, it seems like it may be set to re-request login. Although I've never run an uby server, so I'm not sure.
[04:56] <masus> ok np thanks
[06:10] <Hansel> When I go into kwifimanager it says I'm connected to my wireless network but that my Local IP is unavailable.  Anybody know what I might be able to change?
[06:13] <Chikubu> anyone know about a problem involving a kinit error about finding the disk by-uuid?  i used to get a gui logon at boot, but now i get two kinit errors and a terminal logon, have to startx manualy....(not at machine dont have exact error message)
[06:15] <Jester45> whats the erors
[06:15] <Jester45> o
[06:16] <Jester45> couldnt you just add starx to init
[06:19] <atarinox> anybody have problems watching flash vids in firefox? the video always freezes on me randomly and the audio stutters
[06:21] <Hansel> nada.. mine works like a champ.  Occasionally a porn site will be slow and it will stutter while its waiting for more naked goodness to be downloaded
[06:21] <Hansel> otherwise if its a fast site it works like a champ.
[06:22] <Jester45> atarinox, what version of flash are you using
[06:24] <atarinox> Jester45: 9.0 r31
[06:25] <Jester45> atarinox, would this be adobe's flash
[06:26] <atarinox> shockwave
[06:26] <atarinox> im using the libflashplayer.so plugin
[06:30] <atarinox> Jester45: any ideas?
[06:33] <Jester45> nope
[06:37] <tinin> does someone know a lightweight downloader for firefox?
[06:37] <tinin> like kget
[06:38] <Jester45> wget, its not an extension for firefox but its lightweight, all you so is open a terminal type wget then paste the url and press eter
[06:38] <Jester45> enter*
[06:39] <tinin> for my mom
[06:39] <Jester45> o
[06:39] <BFTD> haha
[06:39] <BFTD> write I front end to wget
[06:40] <BFTD> a*
[06:59] <Hansel> My wireless card isn't working.  I've tried all sorts of stuff.  Right now iwconfig and all my other utils say I'm connected to my network but I dont have an IP...
[06:59] <Hansel> ideas?
[07:01] <Sharn> Hello peeps
[07:02] <Hansel> hi Sharn
[07:03] <Sharn> I'm learning Russian and looking for a way to type it alongside English. Anyone have a useful link or anything?
[07:03] <BFTD> Hansel it says you're connected but no IP?
[07:03] <BFTD> is the router set to SHCP?
[07:11] <Hansel> BFTD - set to dhcp, it works with my non-Linux boxes just fine.
[07:20] <Geck1> hello?
[07:21] <Geck1> I was wondering if I could get help with a couple questions, does anyone know how I can install a theme? I downloaded one from xfce-look.org, but I don't know how to get to it
[07:22] <Geck1> Secondly, if I make a new user, will that user have access to all the programs I already have installed on my computer? And is it possible to make this user not have a password, such as for a guest account?
[07:27] <Hansel> Geck1 - its a BAD idea to not have a password
[07:27] <Hansel> technically you can configure your Login manager to auto-login a user... setting NO password is BAD though...
[07:28] <Hansel> I use Gnome so I can tell you how to install a theme for that... usually I just drag and drop from my browser to the Theme Manager window and it auto-installs.
[07:28] <Hansel> If you just downloaded a .tar.gz file or something like that with the theme in it you should just have to go into the theme manager and pick the file from your /home directory
[07:28] <Sharn> Should work about the same
[07:29] <Sharn> Appliacations > Settings > Desktop Settings
[07:29] <Sharn> Erm, no
[07:29] <Sharn> That's not right.
[07:29] <Jester45> or right click on the desktop and select desktop settings
[07:30] <Sharn> Orly
[07:42] <Xs1t0ry> At startup, Xubuntu cannot configure network interface and is stuck at the loading bar indefinitely. Advice on troubleshooting please, anyone?
[07:47] <Geck1> Hi, I just have one more question (sorry!) -- There are some screen shots here http://www.xfce.org/about/screenshots which are from xfce, which I think is the same thing that Xubuntu uses.  I can't seem to find any themes like in those screenshots with alpha blended (transparent) windows/window borders.  I didnt see any at xfce-look.org either.  Does anyone know where to look for these transparent themes?
[07:49] <predaeus_> Geck1, see Applications/Settings/Window Manager Tweaks   there is a tab where you can enable compositing (which allows for fast transparency)
[07:50] <predaeus_> Geck1, xfce comes with it's own composite manager, but you can use compiz too
[07:56] <Blais1> Hello all
[07:57] <Blais1> I have a strange problem with my sound
[07:57] <Blais1> I get lots of noise coming through my speakers when there is activity on the screen, or even when I move my mouse around, how can I fix this?
[07:58] <Xs1t0ry> Are you drivers installed properly
[07:58] <Blais1> I believe so
[07:58] <Blais1> how can I tell?
[07:58] <Blais1> I have onboard sound
[07:58] <Xs1t0ry> Do you have a dual boot?
[07:58] <Blais1> yes
[07:58] <Xs1t0ry> Is it alright in Windows?
[07:58] <Blais1> I don't notice it
[07:59] <Blais1> so I would say yez
[07:59] <Xs1t0ry> So then its not the speakers..
[07:59] <Xs1t0ry> thats an obscure problem
[08:04] <predaeus_> I had this too, no idea what it was
[08:04] <Blais1> *had* this?
[08:04] <predaeus_> Not sure havent checked, was just very faint. very silent.
[08:05] <Blais1> oh
[08:05] <Blais1> I'm using Edgy
[08:05] <Blais1> perhaps the latest version would be better
[08:05] <Blais1> I can't seem to upgrade though
[08:05] <Blais1> using the system updater
[08:07] <Xs1t0ry> why dont you just burn the iso and go from there
[08:08] <BFTD> Blais1 if you get the alt cd to feisty, you can upgrade off of that
[08:08] <Blais1> My PC is oldish (1.3ghz Athlon) will the performance suffer?
[08:08] <Blais1> 1GB RAM
[08:09] <BFTD> Blais1 that's not to bad, so Xubuntu is perfect for you
[08:09] <Blais1> good
[08:09] <Blais1> so you wuold recommend 7.04 iso?
[08:09] <Blais1> of Xubuntu
[08:10] <BFTD> yes
[08:10] <BFTD> yes I do
[08:10] <Blais1> ok, I'll try it, thank you
[08:15] <krillepille> Hi. I have a problem...
[08:16] <krillepille> Or 2.
[08:18] <tinin> How do I change the refresh rate or resolution of the boot and power off screens?
[08:19] <tinin> i've got a very old monitor
[08:42] <o19> hi
[09:36] <TaJMoX> How do I make a program auto start?
[09:45] <TaJMoX> for example, I want tilda, gaim, and checkgmail to run automatically every time i start the comptuer
[09:46] <j1mc> TaJMoX: go to Applications > Settings > Autostarted Applications
[09:46] <j1mc> then click on the "add" button
[09:46] <TaJMoX> oh dear me
[09:46] <TaJMoX> *bluch*
[09:46] <TaJMoX> blush
[09:46] <j1mc> hehe
[09:46] <TaJMoX> was that there previous version??
[09:47] <j1mc> btw, i know the guy who wrote tilda.  he's a cool guy.  :)
[09:47] <j1mc> a previous version?
[09:47] <j1mc> of what?
[09:47] <TaJMoX> of xubuntu
[09:48] <j1mc> oh, i'm not sure...
[09:48] <TaJMoX> somehow i remember having to make a ~/Desktop/Autostart folder
[09:53] <ablomen> TaJMoX, nah that is ~/.config/autostart/
[09:53] <TaJMoX> ah thats right
[09:53] <ablomen> :)
[09:54] <hyper_ch> hiho Jester45
[09:54] <Jester45> hi
[09:54] <Jester45> im having problems with cron
[09:54] <hyper_ch> what problems?
[09:55] <Jester45> would anyone know why nothing runs by cron? i put the command in crontab but nothing happens
[09:55] <hyper_ch> Jester45: I use cron quite simple
[09:55] <ablomen> Jester45, could you paste a line?
[09:55] <hyper_ch> I write a text file:    cron.txt
[09:55] <hyper_ch> and then I just add it by issuing:   crontab cron.txt
[09:56] <Jester45> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * root xfdesktop --reload
[09:56] <hyper_ch> root?
[09:56] <Jester45> yea i didnt want to both with running itas a user
[09:57] <ablomen> huh
[09:57] <hyper_ch> root is not a command
[09:57] <hyper_ch> add the cron to the root crontab
[09:57] <Jester45> its the user thats runs xfdesktop --reload
[09:58] <ablomen> Jester45, that doesnt work that
[09:58] <ablomen> way
[09:58] <Jester45> that line is in /etc/crontab
[09:58] <ablomen> just run sudo crontab -e if you want to run something as root
[09:58] <Jester45> do i have to do that each boot?
[09:59] <hyper_ch> Jester45: I don't understand what you want to do
[09:59] <ablomen> hyper_ch, ah..
[09:59] <ablomen> hyper_ch, it adds the user in /etc/crontab
[09:59] <Jester45> i want to run xfdesktop --replace every 5 mins
[09:59] <ablomen> # m h dom mon dow user  command
[10:00] <Jester45> eer --reload*
[10:00] <hyper_ch> Jester45: do it differently
[10:00] <Jester45> hyper_ch, how
[10:01] <ablomen> Jester45, use the full paths
[10:01] <hyper_ch> Jester45: use this as a shell script
[10:01] <hyper_ch> http://phpfi.com/246206
[10:01] <hyper_ch> and then run this script in cron
[10:02] <hyper_ch> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * sh /home/hyper/wallpaperchanger.sh
[10:02] <hyper_ch> that is in my cron.txt
[10:02] <hyper_ch> and then add it to cron itself by issuing:   crontab cron.txt
[10:02] <Jester45> im confused
[10:03] <Jester45> why renice xfdesktop to change the background
[10:03] <hyper_ch> well, if you have something important running that you don't want to lag
[10:04] <Jester45> it takes like 1/25th of a second
[10:05] <hyper_ch> don't renice it then
[10:05] <Jester45> so crontab cant do commands they have to be scripts?
[10:06] <hyper_ch> crontab can to an extent... but I found it simpler to make little scripts
[10:09] <Jester45> ok i got the script
[10:09] <Jester45> now how to add to cron?
[10:09] <Jester45> i have been editing /etc/crontab
[10:10] <hyper_ch> Jester45: I make im my home folder a cron.txt
[10:10] <hyper_ch> copy the cron command in there
[10:10] <hyper_ch> and add it by:   crontab cron.txt
[10:11] <Jester45> so but the entries into the .txt then crontab it?
[10:11] <Jester45> put*
[10:11] <hyper_ch> this is in my cron.txt:   0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * sh /home/hyper/wallpaperchanger.sh
[10:11] <Jester45> sh is the user?
[10:11] <hyper_ch> no
[10:12] <hyper_ch> sh is the command to run a shell script
[10:12] <Jester45> how do i tell cron to run it as root
[10:12] <hyper_ch> sudo crontab cron.txt
[10:12] <Jester45> ok
[10:12] <hyper_ch> then it will be added to the root cron
[10:12] <hyper_ch> but why do you want to do that?
[10:13] <Jester45> some times the diffrent ways to do 1 thing in linux is frustrating to learn
[10:13] <Jester45> so that anyuser's desktop changes
[10:14] <Jester45> and to update the entry? just sudo crontab it again?
[10:14] <hyper_ch> edit the text file
[10:15] <hyper_ch> and then again:  sudo crontab cron.txt
[10:15] <Jester45> now to make one start mpd as an alarm clock :)
[10:15] <Jester45> k
[10:15] <hyper_ch> ?
[10:15] <hyper_ch> I just like to have my cron jobs in a text files... makes it much simpler to edit and transfer
[10:16] <Jester45> 0 9 * * * alarmclock.sh
[10:16] <hyper_ch> that should work
[10:17] <Jester45> alarmclock.sh = mpc volume mpc play
[10:17] <Jester45> volume = 100
[10:17] <Jester45> and a htokey to turn it off :0
[10:19] <hyper_ch> I use my cellphone as alarm clock
[10:19] <Sharn> Or just sudo crontab -e to edit roots crontab file....
[10:20] <Sharn> And, if your using xfce you don't need a seperate script to change the wallpaper.
[10:21] <hyper_ch> Sharn: how do you do it then?
[10:21] <Sharn> One sec
[10:21] <hyper_ch> kde has an integrated changer
[10:21] <hyper_ch> xfce only changes upon boot
[10:21] <Sharn> 0,15,30,45 * * * * killall -USR1 xfdesktop
[10:21] <Sharn> That's mine
[10:21] <Sharn> And it works great for me.
[10:22] <hyper_ch> I had that also a long time ago
[10:22] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:22] <hyper_ch> Sharn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328792
[10:22] <hyper_ch> hiho slow-motion
[10:23] <slow-motion> hi hyper_ch
[10:23] <hyper_ch> slow-motion: still up this late?
[10:24] <slow-motion> yes
[10:24] <hyper_ch> slow-motion: not going out?
[10:24] <slow-motion> i'm a linux user
[10:24] <slow-motion> *g*
[10:24] <Sharn> hyper_ch, so what is in your wallpaperchanger.sh?
[10:25] <hyper_ch> Sharn: well, I took one of the suggestions to my thread:   http://phpfi.com/246206
[10:26] <hyper_ch> slow-motion: so? Linux is portable ;)
[10:27] <Sharn> Mmk. Is it better, or faster or something? I know so very little about bash scripting. :P
[10:27] <slow-motion> i'm watching tv at the moment
[10:27] <hyper_ch> ell, if you play games e.g. cs and you don't want anything to use the cpu too much it will first set the priority to lowest....
[10:28] <Sharn> Ok
[10:28] <hyper_ch> it's just more advanced...
[10:28] <Sharn> Meh, compiz-fusion has my desktop all confused anyway.
[10:28] <hyper_ch> but you're right, the killall -USR xfdesktop works fine
[10:30] <nihang> I want a xubuntu cd
[10:31] <hyper_ch> download it
[10:31] <nihang> Anyone there?
[10:31] <nihang> I can't. I'm on 56K.
[10:32] <nihang> Hello...
[10:32] <hyper_ch> order one through shipit
[10:32] <Jester45> you can
[10:32] <Jester45> but you dont want to
[10:32] <Jester45> because it will take a month
[10:33] <nihang> Can I really order a xubuntu cd?
[10:33] <hyper_ch> dunno, have a look there
[10:34] <nihang> No, I checked and you can't order
[10:34] <Sharn> I don't think you can
[10:35] <Jester45> you cn order a ubuntu, then convert it
[10:35] <Jester45> can*
[10:35] <nihang> How?,
[10:35] <nihang> How to convert ubuntu into xubuntu?
[10:35] <Jester45> install a server (cli) version from the shipit cd then run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <linuxnub> hello
[10:36] <nihang> Thanks, Jester45. Will try...
[10:36] <Jester45> xubuntu is baseded off of ubuntu, it has all the same core packages
[10:36] <linuxnub> wow 1100 in #ubuntu and 73 in here lol
[10:36] <nihang> Thanks.
[10:36] <hyper_ch> that will still require a lot to download
[10:36] <Jester45> and the same repo, you can have ubuntu and xubuntu installed at the same time if you wanted
[10:36] <hyper_ch> linuxnub: so what?
[10:36] <nihang> Jester45. Does that mean it will need to download something?
[10:37] <hyper_ch> nihang: yes
[10:37] <Jester45> nihang, yes all the xfce stuff, ~300mb
[10:37] <nihang> WoW
[10:37] <Jester45> or can just install ubuntu
[10:37] <linuxnub> how do you get rid of all the gnome specific crap after you apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ??
[10:37] <hyper_ch> !language | linuxnub
[10:37] <ubotu> linuxnub: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:37] <Jester45> linuxnub, have fun with that
[10:38] <Jester45> nihang, the only problem you might wantto tink about
[10:38] <linuxnub> i already did the apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[10:38] <linuxnub> and the autoremove for the libs
[10:38] <hyper_ch> linuxnub: have a look at psychocats website... all relevant packages are listed there
[10:39] <linuxnub> ya seen that its a very long list
[10:39] <Jester45> nihang, is that if you install a cli server, you have to set up your dial up via cli wich is harder. but if you dual-boot or have a 2nd computer you can transfer the xubuntu-dsktop packages over so that its simpler
[10:39] <linuxnub> ive done the fusesmb install too for thunar works great
[10:40] <linuxnub> would doing an apt-get remove gnome do the trick or would that screw things up
[10:40] <Jester45> fuseftp is better than any filemanager could do... it even lets to use it in the cli
[10:41] <hyper_ch> linuxnub: hmmm, if the trick to completly remove gnome can be done with removing one package, why do you think did psychocat list all the relevant packages?
[10:41] <linuxnub> to get back to pure xfce
[10:41] <hyper_ch> Jester45: ever had a look at konqui?
[10:41] <linuxnub> which is not necessarily the right thing to do with xubuntu
[10:42] <linuxnub> matter of fact thats probably pretty dumb to do with xubuntu
[10:42] <hyper_ch> linuxnub: then you did not carefully read what psychocat writes
[10:43] <Jester45> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ubuntu-desktop&searchon=names&version=all&release=all
[10:44] <Jester45> nixternal, i could help you out a little by pre downloading the packages and compressing it all
[10:44] <hyper_ch> Jester45: nihang left
[10:44] <Jester45> oops
[10:44] <Jester45> i just ni<tab>
[10:45] <linuxnub> well fuseftp or fusesmb i guess they both work pretty well
[10:45] <linuxnub> for me fusesmb absolutely screams in thunar
[10:47] <Jester45> yea... but the ubuntu repos doesnt have smb support :0
[10:53] <TaJMoX> hyper_ch im using your wallpaper script it works way better than what i had before (closer to what you used Sharn)
[10:54] <hyper_ch> TaJMoX: those suggestions aren't from me... someone made them in my howto and I just use them now also
[12:11] <maximilian1st> Hi folks
[12:11] <illu45> hi
[12:13] <maximilian1st> To the gutsy gibbon users wanting to get rid of Network Manager for the wireless side, I can suggest to take a look at the Airconfig project. http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig It works here on my notebook and looks very promising.
[12:14] <Jester45> ok
[12:16] <maximilian1st> it depends on ghal which is to be found on the same svn server and location as airconfig itself.
[12:18] <Jester45> i will past that on, i myself im hooked to gbit networking
[12:18] <Jester45> i tink i would blast my brains out if transfering all my data over wireless
[12:19] <Jester45> hyper_ch, my cron is still not working but i will talk about that later