[12:29] well, tomorrow i'll try with the other network card [12:30] i think i've learned too much weird words [12:31] i'm going to google those files [12:33] btw, i used alternate cd to install xubuntu, does the desktop cd recognize this things? will i have internet from a live cd? [12:34] you may [12:34] you can try it [12:34] yeah [12:34] downloading === luisbg [n=d33p@105.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #xubuntu === huascar80 [n=chatzill@e179023019.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #xubuntu [12:55] hi, just installed xubuntu... is there any way of making the applications menu bigger? it is SO small... [12:56] especially the icons [12:57] :-/ [12:58] :-( [12:58] plz [12:58] :-(( [12:59] what is your resolution set at? [12:59] 1280 [12:59] i mean is it even possible? i've been searching the control panel upside down! [01:00] set your resolution lower === tuna-fish [n=tuna@dna248-246.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [01:01] guess that's a workaround (and i appreciate ayway) but not a solution [01:06] does anyone know how to use preload? [01:08] I did sudo apt-get install preload [01:08] But where do I set which applications I want to preload? [01:09] geck0: I think it works dynamically [01:10] geck0: that is, it "learns" [01:10] sorry, can you put that in stupid people terms? [01:10] ok thanks =P [01:10] hehe [01:10] geck0: look into /etc/preload.conf [01:11] k I found it [01:12] so I don't set up which applications it will preload or anything, it will just go automatically right? [01:13] geck0: yes [01:13] ok, thanks for your help TheSheep! === luisbg [n=d33p@105.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] is there a good place to find themes for xubuntu? [01:17] geck0, http://xfce-look.org/ :) [01:18] thanks =) === RememberPOL [n=pol@adsl-75-34-10-66.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [01:25] how do I remove applications from the applications menu? [01:26] by the way, sorry for all the silly questions, I'm brand new to linux/xubuntu =) === Eric [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:28] Hello [01:28] hi [01:28] We can get help here? === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-54.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:28] I'm trying to get help too =) sometimes people respond [01:28] so ask away hehe === scizzo [n=scizzo@vxj-104-197-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] Oh, okay [01:29] Thanks [01:29] If anyone is listening: I [01:30] am running Xubuntu 7.04 and need to know how to connect to WLAN [01:31] eric: try reading this, it may help [01:31] http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/WLAN_Autodetect [01:31] Ah thank you kind sir [01:31] I'll try to get this workin [01:31] good luck =) [01:32] !wifi | Eric [01:32] Eric: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === scizzo raises hand for asking a question or two [01:34] I have been following the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.29 [01:35] however....they are saying that if I want to get this session started with the preferences I got I need to go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions and then to Startup Programs -> New and add a new session [01:35] however....to me that sounds like normal ubuntu path not the xfce path === luisbg [n=d33p@105.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [01:36] so....my question is pretty much if there is such a session editing in xfce? [01:36] scizzo: settings->autostarted applications [01:36] scizzo: and in some things the good-old text editor. [01:37] hehe.. :) === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [01:42] thanks guys...worked just fine [01:43] :) [01:47] geck0, what do you need help with? [01:48] geck0: the menu is created from files in /usr/share/applications [01:48] geck0: you can add 'Hidden: true' to any of these files to make them not appear in the menu === Eric is now known as Xs1t0ry [01:52] TheSheep_, how do we add things there to have them show up if they are not there already? === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has joined #xubuntu [01:53] vidd_laptop: well, create a new .desktop file... [01:53] vidd_laptop: the spec is at freedekstop.org, but you should be able to ltell by just looking [01:55] where is the file stored? === nikolam [n=nikola@adsl-211-252.eunet.yu] has joined #xubuntu === RememberPOL [n=pol@adsl-75-34-10-66.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu === W8TAH [n=tholmes@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1242393048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@105.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:27] hey GrueTamer [02:27] how goes it? [02:27] Anyone: After choosing Xubuntu in Grub the screen goes black and the loading icon appears but nothing ever happens. Suggestions for troubleshooting? [02:28] Xs1t0ry, is there other items in grub? [02:29] vidd_laptop: only the memtest and windows xp [02:30] Xs1t0ry, is it possible that the install failed? [02:32] vidd_laptop: no because after the install, PC restarted and i went into fine, then after discovering WLAN didnt work, i went to windows to see how to fix it. when i tried to go back to fix it, i ran into this problem -- it's not starting [02:32] hrm...strang === scizzo is now known as scizzo- === suser1 [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu [02:34] yes i cant figure it out [02:34] Xs1t0ry, did you install anything on the windows side? [02:34] no [02:37] Xs1t0ry, when the loading icon comes on, hit {i think} to see what system messages say [02:38] ok, be back in 5 mins [02:38] thanks === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:51] vidd_laptop: i tried it but it just brought me to a console [02:52] one of the tty's will show system messages [02:53] all i saw was tty4 written at the top [02:53] what am i looking for? [02:53] for the last command === luisbg [n=d33p@105.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] ok but to be clear, it isnt the loading screen that says xubuntu with the bar, it is the black screen after that which has the loading icon circle (the *buntu vers of the windows hourglass) [02:54] does that make any diff? [02:55] something that should be loading is not...and to fix it, we need to know what it is [02:56] try tty1...i cant remember which one it is [02:56] =\ [02:58] try it? [02:58] what do you mean? [02:58] i type that in the cmd line? [02:59] see if shows the commands as they are loaded [03:00] ok brb === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] wb Xs1t0ry [03:06] anything? [03:06] vidd: in tty1 it stops at 'running boot scripts' or something like that and it brackets says '/etc/r.local' or something [03:06] in tty8 it says loading console fonts and keyboard stuff when it stops responsding [03:06] tty2-7 are just blank consoles [03:07] and if i press enter it allows me to enter my username and password in the console and will log me in [03:07] but only in the console, never to the desktop [03:07] do there is an issue with your desktop..... === Lanken [n=Lanken@cntcnhnas01-pool0-a84.cntcnh.tds.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:07] yes it doesnt seem to be loading [03:08] which ive never heard of [03:08] its like bsod from boot [03:08] like having hands but no eyes... advice? [03:08] I have a Xubuntu Dapper install whose kernel is too primitive for me to install modem drivers. [03:09] can I download kernel sources or the next version of the kernel? [03:09] lanken: you can upgrade up to 7.04 now i think [03:10] Xs1t0ry: the trouble is I don't have any bandwidth [03:10] Xs1t0ry: I'm on dial-up [03:10] lanken: do you have a dual-boot? [03:10] Xs1t0ry: and I need to upgrade the kernel if I want Xubuntu to have any connnectivity at all. [03:10] Xs1t0ry: I have an XP machine next to it that has dial-up [03:11] Lanken: can't you mount the latest vers and then put it on your machine? [03:11] Xs1t0ry: the latest version of what? [03:12] Lanken: the kernel/whole OS [03:12] basically, i think your desktop needs to be restarted.... [03:12] Xs1t0ry: I'm sure I could if I had the bandwidth to download the new version of the kernel/whole OS [03:12] Lanken: what i mean is use your xp machine to d/l it and then burn it [03:13] Xs1t0ry, from comand line, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [03:13] Lanken: or does your xp machine not have enough bandwidth? [03:13] Xs1t0ry: the XP machine has dial-up too. === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B975AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] Lanken: shit. i would say order a new disk by snail mail but that takes 6-8 weeks [03:14] vidd_laptop: ok ill try that one sec [03:14] rofl. [03:14] Xs1t0ry: in two weeks I'll have bandwidth again. [03:14] Lanken: how so? [03:14] Lanken: hey, long time no see :D [03:15] mrigns_: hey dude. [03:15] vidd: it will work with xubuntu also even though the desktop environment is xfce? [03:15] mrigns_: I've been in #linguistics. [03:15] 1337 :D [03:15] mrigns_: your scrollback will tell you that I have dial-up here -_- [03:16] but I do have a sweet new thinkpad yay. [03:16] Lanken, why do you need to update the kernel? [03:16] X) [03:16] vidd_laptop: the kernel I have (which came with a 6.06 iso) is too old to use the drivers for my software modem. [03:17] Lanken: I'm back idling. cya around [03:17] so you have no broadbrand? [03:17] vidd_laptop: right. [03:18] do you have dial-up? [03:18] yes, on my XP box. [03:18] so why dont you do this....(man i hate suggesting this!) [03:19] on your xp box, set up internet connection sharing.... [03:19] connect your linux box to it via a crossover cable.... [03:20] then edit your sources.list file to edgy.... [03:21] then sudo apt-get (or aptitude if you prefer) update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [03:21] I don't think I have a crossover cable. [03:21] do you have a router? [03:21] I can look for a cat5 cable and maybe mod it. === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:22] no, no router [03:22] no reason for any of that gunk in a house without broadband [03:22] until now [03:22] (actually, connection-sharing sounds neat, I should tell my dad about that) === vidd_laptop works for a dial-up ISP [03:22] neat. === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:23] Xs1t0ry, any luck? [03:23] vidd: desktop flashed on the screen for a split second then went back to the loading screen again [03:24] however I think i mightve turned on the remote login [03:24] where can i find the command to turn it off in the console? [03:24] idn [03:24] remote login seems like an explanation anyways [03:24] ? [03:25] it is possible...i never used it [03:27] in the options i mustve checked 'enable remote login' [03:27] thats the only thing i changed, before that it worked [03:28] Lanken, you might be able to use a regular cable [03:28] Xs1t0ry, if that is all you changed, then it is the likely cause [03:28] vidd: yea i changed it because i was curious [03:29] vidd: now i need to figure out how to turn it back [03:31] vidd_laptop: I actually don't have any cat5 at all. [03:31] vidd_laptop: thanks for the education though. [03:31] you have wireless Lanken ? [03:35] vidd_laptop: both machines have internal wireless cards [03:35] vidd_laptop: the linux laptop has an intel card, so hopefully it's easy to get working under linux. [03:35] Lanken, then try to steal a neighbor's broadband [03:35] =] [03:36] vidd_laptop: rofl. [03:36] vidd_laptop: we have dial-up because we're in the boonies. [03:40] gee.... Lanken are you in virginia by chace? [03:41] vidd_laptop: New Hampshire [03:41] vidd_laptop: it's pretty remote. === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@hlfxns01bbf-142177230163.ns.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:42] if both of your computers have wifi...then set up an ad-hok network, and send the ICS over that Lanken [03:43] vidd_laptop: can you do that? you don't need a router? [03:43] Lanken, no...that is why its called "ad-hok" [03:43] lol === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] ad hoc [03:53] R[a] ndom, i never said i could spell =] [03:54] s'aight. I'm just a big correction nazi. [03:54] ok, only sometimes [03:54] apparently ad hoc translates to "for this purpose" [03:55] I don't see how that describes a peer to peer connection [03:56] its a "for this purpose" network connection (this being purposely undefined) [03:57] =] [03:58] grrr...does xubuntu ship build-essential in the iso? [03:59] idk [03:59] what's the relevant metapackage called? [03:59] build-essential? [03:59] i guess.... 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It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [05:05] !ubotu irc [05:05] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [05:06] looks like there was a flood attack === luisbg [n=d33p@105.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [05:10] yeah something not right === not_Jester45 is now known as Jester45 === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.194.47.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.189] has joined #xubuntu [05:29] hi ppl, ive lost my gui on boot...i don't get a what i think is the gdm greet screen with logon, i just get a plain terminal logon, which i have to run startx to get my desktop back, ive looked at the gdm.conf file and it looks ok, suggestions on how i can get the greeter back on boot? [05:29] this happened after a distro upgrade of about 118 megs [05:31] Chikubu, check your boot script... [05:32] it is possible that it is missing startx === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.194.47.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@hlfxns01bbf-142177230163.ns.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:19] !rar [06:19] rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free [06:20] !info unrar-free [06:20] unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.202.41.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.189] has joined #xubuntu [06:35] what does the command cat /ect/fstab do?? === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has left #xubuntu ["Saindo"] === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-170-99.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:47] Chikubu: lists the contents of the file located at /etc/fstab [06:47] !fstab [06:47] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [06:47] and if your fstab file is mising or doesnt exist? [06:47] Chikubu: similar to opening it a text editor read-only, kinda. [06:48] Chikubu: then you have a mighty interesting situation.... Note that it's /etc, not /ect. [06:50] ah heck i found it [06:50] my contacts need cleaning ugg [06:51] im having a problem at boot...i used to get a gui logon, but now all i get is terminal logon, with some kinit errors referencing /dev/disk/by-uuid [06:52] i can logon at the terminal login and run startx to get my desktop [06:52] but id like the old behaviour back [06:52] there are a bunch of bug reports about this but no solutions [06:53] I haven't heard about it frankly, so I doubt I can help on that one. (UUID is still a mystery to me) [06:56] fstab file has refrences to my hard drive commented out - - -/dev/hda1 and hada5 and looks like UUID referneces instead...i wonder if the upgrade switched them [06:57] yeah [06:58] the line # /dev/hda1 is replaced with a long UUID=yadayadayda or so it seems....dare i switch them around? [06:59] You could try - it wouldn't be the "preferred" way of doing things, but it may be a temporary workaround until you find a real solution. [06:59] ah well i can always run tirc hehe [06:59] here goes nuthin === zen-afk [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:01] there is a fstab.pre-uuid right below it, but nothing much in it but a comment [07:01] ah well reboot time [07:02] next time tell Chikabu about !uuid [07:04] cellofellow: good catch - a moment too late :S Thanks. [07:12] i keep saying [07:13] ubotu need to have some sort of wb message [07:14] so that only register users (no spam) can tell it to tell a message to the person [07:14] so like this case when chikubu come back ubotu would say right away, cellofellow wanted you to know !uuid [07:15] good idea [07:15] but... [07:15] Jester45: There actually is such a function already written - it's just not in ubotu at this time. [07:15] nobody likes me === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC_ [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196166.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E063.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC_ [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196166.dragnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196166.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.15.71] has joined #xubuntu [08:03] guys how do I enable compiz in xubuntu gutsy? [08:04] !compiz [08:04] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects [08:04] try the other channel [08:04] !gutsy [08:04] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 [08:05] oh ok thanx guys [08:06] cellofellow: the thing is I'm running xfce & can't find desktop effects in xfce , but if you guys feel ubunut+1 is the correct place to ask that question, will do so [08:06] desktop effects in xfce4 are limited to transparent windows. === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-76-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === ZxEfR [n=zxefr@c75-111-8-193.amrlcmta01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net] has left #xubuntu [] === jgamio [n=jgamio@190.72.53.158] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-76-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.202.41.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:55] hiho === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === k^^ [n=kk@digital.celebris.net] has joined #xubuntu === Hansel [n=mindrape@ip68-228-231-213.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:23] For some reason every single window I open has the same window title... the letter o... any way I can get it to use whatever the default should be for each application I open? [09:23] or what setting I may have jacked up? [09:25] Hansel: is the o in the upper left-corner? [09:25] yes [09:25] click it. :) [09:25] ...a dot gets filled in... ? [09:26] yeah... sorta. with it filled in, look in your lower-right corner [09:26] ah... okay, I'm retarded... lol [09:26] ... of your screen. [09:26] it takes the app you're using, and puts it in all of your virtual desktops [09:26] I feel unworthy asking for help to get my wireless working now.. .hhehe [09:27] haha [09:27] i can try to help with that if you'd like [09:27] I have a Cisco wireless card... Aironet 350 [09:28] ok [09:28] it can detect the card cause all the lights come on... [09:28] I just cant get an IP from my wireless router. [09:28] I have WEP enabled. I just want to be able to scan for local networks as opposed to having to type it all in manually. [09:28] hmmm... [09:29] why use WEP? [09:29] when I go into Network Settings I see 2 wireless connections wifi0 and eth1... I believe eth1 is the one it should be. [09:29] what version of xubuntu are you using? [09:29] I could use WPA or something else... [09:29] uhm... Fiesty? [09:29] I just want to be able to scan for networks... so no matter what encryption they are using I can pick and choose. [09:30] right now I'm not connected to anything and the lights are flashing like bonkers. [09:30] so, do you know the command, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"? [09:30] status and activity lights... [09:30] k... its just showing 1... the ESSID is baby. Mine is pigvomit... it isnt in the list. :( [09:31] ooh... I ran it again and it showed up! [09:31] ok... and it says the key is on? [09:31] Encryption key:on [09:31] yeah [09:32] is there a way I can get this to show up in the gui interface? I am giving this to my dad and he can't handle a command line... [09:32] i'm not sure what types of encryption this works on, and what it doesn't work on, but... [09:32] Hansel: the only secure thing I know is Radius [09:32] hyper_ch: what is Radius? [09:32] Radius server so that even the login connection thing will be encrypted [09:32] ah [09:32] WPA can "easily" be hacked because the handshake part is not encrypted [09:33] !bug 1 [09:33] For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents [09:33] Hansel: if you want this to be done by a gui, then you'd probably want to use network-manager-gnome [09:33] Launchpad bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [09:35] network-manager-gnome has some gnome-libs that it depends on, and xubunteros don't like that. :) ... but, it's better than nothing for those who need a gui for now. === topcat1027 [n=Administ@61.55.205.33] has joined #xubuntu [09:35] jlmc - k... I'm apt-getting it now... or attempting to anyhow. [09:35] Hansel: how are you connected to the internet now? [09:36] can somebody help me... when i go into add remove programs, all the programs say i can't download them, my hardware doesn't support it, blabla [09:36] I connected the cable to my laptop... google comes up but apt-get is attempting to pull from us.archive.ubuntu.com and stalling out... [09:37] Hansel: can you ping anything? [09:37] yeah... google responds [09:37] I pull up firefox and it loads fine. [09:37] Hansel: maybe the that server is down [09:38] Hansel: you know, this can happen ;) [09:38] always to me... :( [09:38] heh [09:38] topcat1027: can you post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file in http://pastebin.ca ? [09:39] Hansel: replace "us" with "ch" [09:39] Hansel: and test if that works [09:39] k... lemme pull up my sources.list [09:39] Hansel: just a couple of minutes ago I looked if there are updates on the swiss servers [09:39] running apt-get update... hold [09:41] and ..... ? === topcat1027 [n=Administ@61.55.205.33] has left #xubuntu [] [09:41] sorry, but i need to go to bed. take care, all [09:42] strange... I updated my sources.list then ran apt-get update and its stalling out on us.archive.ubuntu.com even though I replaced them all with ch. [09:42] hmmm, that is really strange [09:42] are you sure you have replaced them all=? [09:43] yeah... [09:43] very odd [09:43] my laptop has a mind of its own [09:43] cool ;) [09:43] ai [09:43] heh. [09:43] now I cant apt-get gnome-network-manager... [09:44] err... I guess thats probably because its network-manager-gnome, huh? hehe [09:44] I'm retarded tonight === cheeseboy , : ( sleep ) | : ( Friday, June 29, 2007. 13:39:25 ) Xlack v2.1 [09:44] ??? === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === xBill [n=chatzill@p5494DAE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === qwxz [n=josh@CPE-124-179-240-127.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === qwxz [n=josh@CPE-124-179-240-127.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #xubuntu [] === xBill [n=chatzill@p5494DAE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === vinze [n=vinze@a80-126-159-235.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.126.143] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet203419678.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === bart_17 [n=youandme@58.69.31.72] has joined #xubuntu [11:53] hi [11:53] Hi [11:54] vinze: i have an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run xubuntu fiesty decently on this pc? [11:55] yes, I think so [11:55] bart_17: yes [11:55] does xubuntu play mp3's out of the box? [11:55] thanx [11:55] No [11:55] But it's not difficult to add support [11:55] bart_17: but it can be easily made to play them [11:55] http://www.xubuntu.org/get#requirements [11:56] ok.. i'm a noob [11:56] No problem :D [11:56] bart_17: just add the medibuntu repository and fetch the codecs :) [11:56] No [11:56] hyper_ch, what's wrong with Gstreamer? [11:56] (Except that gxine doesn't use it ;) [11:56] vinze: I don't use it [11:56] I always see this medibuntu repo mentioned but I have never used it and I'm playing an MP3 right now [11:56] would i be able to do it even without an internet connection? [11:57] Well, you'd have to download it from somewhere else [11:57] vinze: medibuntu repo has a few things more than just the mp3 codecs [11:57] But I suppose you'll then also be downloading the Xubuntu CD somewhere else [11:57] hyper_ch, like what? [11:57] You mean DVD's and stuff? [11:57] vinze: have a look at what they offer [11:58] Oh I see [11:58] hyper_ch, thanks [11:58] i can download it here, but my old pc is in the farm and we don't have an internet connection there [11:58] OK, do you have a USB drive or anything which you could save it to? [11:59] can you get mp3 codecs without adding repos? [11:59] Yeah [11:59] AlexC, you can download the packages manually [11:59] can vlc by default play mp3s? [11:59] yes, i just need to know where to download and how to install [12:00] OK, hold on a sec.. [12:00] bart_17: if you download the .deb files you just double-click them on the desktop [12:00] bart_17: they are sort of like .exe files [12:00] bart_17, what version of Xubuntu will you be using? [12:00] ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i fiesty [12:00] ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i'll be installing fiesty fiesty [12:00] OK, I'll look it up [12:01] ok.. where do i get the deb files?? i'll be installing fiesty [12:01] thanx [12:01] yea [12:01] vlc has codecs inclosed [12:01] bart_17: http://packages.ubuntu.com --> but those are only the official repos... so no mp3 codecs === hyper_ch likes vlc a lot === hyper_ch but prefers amarok for playing music [12:02] hyper_ch, if you download vlc from there then I suppose you'll have MP3 support then [12:02] vinze: if it's enclosed I think they will play... [12:02] bart_17: how long will you still be online? [12:02] long, y? [12:03] hyper_ch, only problem is the amount of dependencies when downloading it manually [12:03] I guess I'll just install xubuntu feisty in vmware and see what it fetches [12:03] ok, thanx [12:03] bart_17: you have no inet available after you install feisty? [12:04] I was thinking about the "Generate Package Download Script" feature in Synaptic === hyper_ch doesn't use synaptic === vinze is starting VirtualBox [12:04] nope, as the pc is in our other house... [12:05] and that pc doesn't have a network card [12:05] vinze: will you install xubi feisty in a virtual box? [12:05] vinze: my cpu is currently doing massive things ;) [12:05] I'll just run the LiveCD and generate the download script [12:05] lol [12:05] vinze: ok ;) thx [12:05] np [12:06] heya guys, where are you from if you don't mind me asking [12:06] vinze: and you can also downloadand install vlc to see whether it does actually play mp3s out of the box [12:06] bart_17: from home [12:06] hyper_ch, yeah, that's what I planned to do first ;) [12:06] bart_17, the Netherlansd [12:06] *The Netherlands [12:07] Hollnder ^^ [12:07] i'm from the philippines.. [12:07] :P [12:08] damn, my cpu is constantly at 100% ^^ [12:08] Mine too but I meant it to :P [12:08] What're you doing? [12:08] Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 531/1017GB, RAM: 996/1010MB, 157 proc's, 15.39h up [12:08] hmmm, ktorrent is running [12:08] amarok is playing music [12:08] I'm copying DVDs to my harddisk [12:09] I'm untarring downloaded torrents [12:09] that'sa bout it [12:09] which would be a better way to install xubuntu, with the livecd or the alternate? [12:09] Oooo, that's about nothing :P [12:09] alternate [12:09] I prefer the LiveCD [12:09] vinze: got an old computer [12:09] Try doing that with WinXP :P [12:10] for installation the alternate normally gives less headache [12:10] True [12:10] ok.. will be downloading the alternate then... [12:10] Might be a bit more scary, but it's not really difficult [12:10] just a sec.. [12:10] hyper_ch, how did you get that sysinfo? [12:10] scary? I think it's a lot simpler than a winxp install === vinze never did an XP install [12:10] vinze: using konversation... it's a script there [12:11] O k [12:11] vinze: want the source? [12:11] Nah don't bother === vinze uses Xchat [12:13] vinze: maybe you can adapt it for xchat: http://phpfi.com/246084 === vinze already downloaded a similar script for xchat [12:14] Now just need to figure out how it works ;) [12:14] dunno [12:14] hyper_ch: u think its easier to install ubunut than winxp?? === hyper_ch uses lots of kde appz [12:14] bart_17: yes, if the hardware is being recognized... it's a lot simpler [12:16] i would say that they are probably at the same [12:16] Does Windows install as a LiveCD? [12:16] :P [12:16] i am downloading xubuntu fiesty alternate now.. [12:16] does windows know what a livecd is? [12:16] ;-) [12:16] vinze: nope... [12:17] hehheheh === hyper_ch thinks a WinXP LiveCD would probably require 2 GB Ram, P4 2.4 Ghz [12:17] Lol [12:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BartPE [12:18] i would disagree... probably 4gb ram, c2d 2.0Ghz ehhehe === tuna-fish [n=tuna@dna248-246.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [12:19] i have the xubuntu fiesty livecd and booted it before.... i had one problem though [12:19] i could not go beyond a 640X480 screen resolution [12:19] ATI? [12:19] That's annoying... [12:21] nope... it's a built in videocard... sis, i installed suse 9.1 personal last wek and i was able to go to 1024X768, but it was kinda too slow for me [12:21] SiS 530 chipset [12:21] no clue... I only use nvidia [12:24] ok... but how do you configure the screen resolution? [12:24] Applications->Settings->Display Settings [12:25] but it only has 640X480 nothing else.. [12:26] Then you'd have to mess with some configuration files (Gutsy, the next version, will have a graphical tool to do this) [12:26] See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 [12:27] thanx [12:30] btw, how can i play, divx/xvid avi and mkv videos in xubuntu?? [12:30] Also with vlc I guess === vinze is still busy with finding out [12:30] ok thanx === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] hyper_ch: how do i get/install vlc? [12:38] bart_17, I'm still working on it, but it seems to hang a bit :( [12:38] if you have internet: sudo aptitude install vlc === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06CC85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:39] hello [12:39] Hey [12:39] how about if i don;t have an internet connection?? [12:39] bart_17, I'm still working on it, but it seems to hang a bit :( [12:39] i hope its not much of a bother [12:39] No, np [12:40] the bars with the applicatians menu and the programs i have started are gone. how do i get them back? [12:40] Press Alt+F2 [12:40] Then type "xfce4-panel" [12:41] ah thank yoz [12:41] np [12:41] you [12:41] would it be a lot easier if i have an internet connection?? [12:42] Yeah === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:43] i'll ask my firends if they have a spare nic and i guess i'll just have to drive to the farm and bring the pc here... are you usually here?? [12:43] No, I should though [12:43] You can also mail me if you'd like [12:43] ok.. what's your email add?? [12:44] imnotb at gmail [12:44] mine is [12:44] bart1105 at gmail [12:45] still there hyper_ch? [12:45] sort of [12:48] vinze/hyper_ch: where do you work? === vinze is a student [12:48] bart_17: in a law firm [12:48] vinze: what are you taking up? [12:48] bart_17, taking up? [12:49] vince are you in college?? [12:49] High school [12:49] wow... [12:49] :P [12:49] hyper_ch: are you a lawyer?? [12:50] bart_17: not yet [12:50] ok.. [12:52] hyper_ch: hw long have you been using linux?? [12:52] vinze: hw long have you been using linux?? [12:53] Emmm... Since Ubuntu Dapper I guess [12:53] on servers for 3 years [12:53] Emm, Warty I mean [12:53] Sorry [12:53] on desktops since last june [12:54] what were your os before linux?? [12:54] WinME, the switch was not that difficult :P [12:55] winME was crap [12:55] Still is ;-) [12:55] It's still supposed to be lurking around somewhere on my computer [12:55] i think they recalled it a year or two ago... [12:55] Yeah could be [12:55] I haven't touched it in ages [12:55] I might turn that hard drive into a backup drive or something [12:56] hhahaha.. i still have a couple of winxp boxes runneing here in the ofc [12:56] :P [12:57] is it hard to set up my network so i can share files with my winxp boxes?? [12:57] No idea, never done it before [12:58] ok.. [12:58] bart_17, I think you might need samba for that [12:59] !samba [12:59] samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT [12:59] I believe this blog had quite some posts about it: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/ [01:00] thanx.. [01:01] predaeus: i have 3 winxp box, that is connected to a router and has file sharing enabled.. what i would like to do is change the os in my laptop and configure it that i can share my files with the my laptop and the 3 boxes and vice versa === luisbg [n=d33p@94.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet203419678.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === azi` [n=azi@89-212-41-93.static.dsl.t-2.net] has left #xubuntu [] === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [01:07] wb hyper_ch [01:09] Oh crap [01:10] what happend vinze> === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E063.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === mik9dt [n=mik@goffy.demon.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === mik9dt [n=mik@goffy.demon.co.uk] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Fast-- [n=Fast@c-76-101-39-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] I have VMware 6.0 installed on my Windows XP Laptop, Anytime I goto install Ubuntu either from mounted image or boot-CD, I get the error message about GBUB not being installed. In VMware, I have set space for 4gig's for Ubuntu to run on. Any suggestions? [02:31] I have posted on Ubuntu forum and figured i'd try here also... [02:32] ^ ^ [02:33] i've never used VMware [02:33] but i thought i'de add my two cents [02:35] is GRUB boot issue common under Ubuntu? === Mnabil [n=Mnabil@82.201.178.17] has joined #xubuntu [02:36] GRUB is the loader that the bios looks at to load the OS [02:36] windows comes with it's own loader [02:37] why the dump xubuntu developers fix this crapy bugy installer [02:37] *why dun they [02:37] mnabil, explane [02:39] so i dont need to even use a boot loader in my config? [02:39] AlexC, i got the gutsy release , desktop cd, then i tried to install it on my laptop, this installer is soo bugy !!!! [02:39] AlexC, so it's hang , i dun know why is the fuck is this [02:40] !language | Mnabil [02:40] Mnabil: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [02:41] TheSheep_, is that all you care about ! language !! [02:41] fast--, i've never used vmware [02:42] k [02:43] Bug #31229 [02:43] Launchpad bug 31229 in debian-installer "Grub install fails on VMWare SCSI disk" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31229 === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [02:46] hyper_ch: hiho [02:46] TheSheep: huhu :) === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === emrum63388 [n=adminx@pD9E514C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === emrum63388 [n=adminx@pD9E514C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === adx [n=adx@auh-as52210.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #xubuntu [02:50] hi [02:50] Fast--: maybe this is more relevant? Bug #75010 [02:50] Launchpad bug 75010 in ubiquity "GrubInstaller failed with code 1 " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75010 [02:50] adx: hello === emrum63388 [n=adminx@pD9E514C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === emrum63388 [n=adminx@pD9E514C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] [02:52] Guys i have no clue about xfce , but can anyone tell me how to get a panel in xfce? === vinze [n=ubuntu@a80-126-159-235.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu [02:53] adx: it disappeared? [02:53] adx: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [02:53] yup [02:53] but this wont get me into shell? [02:53] oh [02:53] i see (run) === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #xubuntu [02:56] Now its great , i cant get the panel to stick [02:56] Would you mind telling me how to get all the window on op of it? :) [02:56] top* === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-95-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] Nvm , i did it [03:00] my drive is showing up as SCSI, but I cant change it to IDE. [03:00] apparently that seems to be the issue [03:00] ^ when in fact it is IDE [03:01] You are using vmware? [03:01] yes [03:01] Choose: VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced no IDE selections, only SCSI in drop down [03:02] i get this problem once in vmware but i dont remmber how i fixed it , try playing with the settings [03:02] Fast--: I think you need to stop the machine before doing this kind of changes [03:03] yesh === hyper_ch thinks TheSheep is right [03:03] and actually I deleted the virtuial partition to start over even lol [03:03] Fast--: the virtual machine, I mean [03:03] I know [03:04] it's now recreating the v.partition, as I thought maybe under custom there was an option...but ther ewas not @ the point of creating it. [03:04] would any SCSI selection = an IDE channel === AlexC_ [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196134.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC_ [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196134.dragnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196134.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === gambler2003 [n=michaelp@3-147-26-72-lbb.pgrb.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:15] can somone help me with an install on a Dell Inspiron 1501? [03:17] My issue is that Ubutu won't seem to pick up the Hard Dive controler === nzk [n=nzk@unaffiliated/nzk] has joined #xubuntu [03:27] How do I open up a rar archive I burned on a CD? [03:27] good morning nzk [03:27] It's late afternoon, but ok. [03:28] VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced [03:29] late afternoon ??? Where? [03:30] Moscow. [03:31] Anyway, I put in a PAL dvd into my player which is known to be region free, but Xubuntu isn't automatically detecting it. [03:31] Neet. I was looking for some help with an Ubuntu install can someone help? [03:34] I wish I could help with the dvd but untill a few months ago I didn't even know they had "regional formats? [03:36] Looks like in I need to check a different place for my issue. [03:36] gambler2003 VM > Settings > Hardware > Hard Disk > Advanced [03:36] oh well, i tried === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:36] How do I open up a rar archive I burned on a CD? winrar? === Jester45 [n=ryan@d15-164.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:42] ... [03:42] I mean in Xubuntu [03:42] But I got it, nevermind [03:42] !dvd | nzk [03:42] nzk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [04:01] What in god's name is making Xubuntu redline with FF, Pidgin, Xchat, and Rhythmbox running? [04:11] redline? === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === adx [n=adx@auh-as52210.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] hi [04:21] Is there any theme for the panel? === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu === rokra_ [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-95-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === rokra_ [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-95-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-95-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:38] can someone look at the Applicatons (XFCE menu) menu's icon, right click -> properties and tell me what the default xubuntu icon is called. I removed it but I want to have it back. Please. === Feldegast [n=feldegas@C-61-69-167-27.syd.connect.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === masus [n=tet@88.248.14.186] has joined #xubuntu [04:39] hi all [04:39] i have install xubuntu with LTSP and configured it [04:39] but i can't login from a thinclient [04:40] can anybody help ? [04:40] i can see the login screen but if i type a username and password i see the login screen again [04:41] You typed it wrong [04:41] no [04:42] the relase of xubuntu is 6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS === darrend [n=darren@100.95.187.81.in-addr.arpa] has joined #xubuntu [04:42] no from the server i can login [04:42] is it possible your harddisk is full [04:42] with the same user and pass [04:42] no it's a fresh copy [04:42] or is it possible your keyboardsettings are changed [04:42] yes it can be [04:43] if it's changed can i not login [04:43] ? === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [04:45] oh well, if it is actually changed then you don't type what you think you type [04:45] no it's only numeric [04:45] however, i don't know how to fix that [04:45] the password === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [04:51] :( can anybody help [04:51] Sure [04:51] but not me [04:52] :| [04:52] masus, I'm doubtful, but can try... what's the problem? [04:52] ok i'll explain again [04:52] i have a xubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS with LTSP on it [04:52] i have configured all the settings on the server [04:53] everything seems to be ok but if i connect via a thinclient ican see the login screen but cant login [04:54] i type the user and pass and after 3-4 seconds the login screen is showing again [04:56] Hm... You might want to check the configuration readme, it seems like it may be set to re-request login. Although I've never run an uby server, so I'm not sure. 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Anybody know what I might be able to change? === Chikubu [i=Chikubu@205.163.99.68] has joined #xubuntu [06:13] anyone know about a problem involving a kinit error about finding the disk by-uuid? i used to get a gui logon at boot, but now i get two kinit errors and a terminal logon, have to startx manualy....(not at machine dont have exact error message) [06:15] whats the erors [06:15] o [06:16] couldnt you just add starx to init === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-68-83-2-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:19] anybody have problems watching flash vids in firefox? the video always freezes on me randomly and the audio stutters [06:21] nada.. mine works like a champ. Occasionally a porn site will be slow and it will stutter while its waiting for more naked goodness to be downloaded [06:21] otherwise if its a fast site it works like a champ. === tinin [n=tinin@169.Red-83-41-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:22] atarinox, what version of flash are you using [06:24] Jester45: 9.0 r31 [06:25] atarinox, would this be adobe's flash [06:26] shockwave [06:26] im using the libflashplayer.so plugin [06:30] Jester45: any ideas? === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:33] nope === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.206.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:37] does someone know a lightweight downloader for firefox? [06:37] like kget [06:38] wget, its not an extension for firefox but its lightweight, all you so is open a terminal type wget then paste the url and press eter [06:38] enter* [06:39] for my mom [06:39] o [06:39] haha [06:39] write I front end to wget [06:40] a* === cheeseboy ( 4 secs ) === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has left #xubuntu ["Saindo"] === jarnos [n=jarnos@dsl-trebrasgw1-ff42c100-143.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:59] My wireless card isn't working. I've tried all sorts of stuff. Right now iwconfig and all my other utils say I'm connected to my network but I dont have an IP... [06:59] ideas? === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-76-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Sharn [n=brandon@dsl-216-128-233-200.teton.id.tetontel.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:01] Hello peeps [07:02] hi Sharn [07:03] I'm learning Russian and looking for a way to type it alongside English. Anyone have a useful link or anything? [07:03] Hansel it says you're connected but no IP? [07:03] is the router set to SHCP? [07:11] BFTD - set to dhcp, it works with my non-Linux boxes just fine. === Geck1 [n=bpeters@139.177.225.167] has joined #xubuntu [07:20] hello? [07:21] I was wondering if I could get help with a couple questions, does anyone know how I can install a theme? I downloaded one from xfce-look.org, but I don't know how to get to it [07:22] Secondly, if I make a new user, will that user have access to all the programs I already have installed on my computer? And is it possible to make this user not have a password, such as for a guest account? === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [07:27] Geck1 - its a BAD idea to not have a password [07:27] technically you can configure your Login manager to auto-login a user... setting NO password is BAD though... [07:28] I use Gnome so I can tell you how to install a theme for that... usually I just drag and drop from my browser to the Theme Manager window and it auto-installs. === benoit__ [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:28] If you just downloaded a .tar.gz file or something like that with the theme in it you should just have to go into the theme manager and pick the file from your /home directory [07:28] Should work about the same === Jester45 [n=ryan@d15-164.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:29] Appliacations > Settings > Desktop Settings [07:29] Erm, no [07:29] That's not right. [07:29] or right click on the desktop and select desktop settings === Jester45 is now known as not_jester45 [07:30] Orly === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus_ [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [07:42] At startup, Xubuntu cannot configure network interface and is stuck at the loading bar indefinitely. Advice on troubleshooting please, anyone? === Geck1 [n=bpeters@139.177.225.167] has joined #xubuntu [07:47] Hi, I just have one more question (sorry!) -- There are some screen shots here http://www.xfce.org/about/screenshots which are from xfce, which I think is the same thing that Xubuntu uses. I can't seem to find any themes like in those screenshots with alpha blended (transparent) windows/window borders. I didnt see any at xfce-look.org either. Does anyone know where to look for these transparent themes? [07:49] Geck1, see Applications/Settings/Window Manager Tweaks there is a tab where you can enable compositing (which allows for fast transparency) [07:50] Geck1, xfce comes with it's own composite manager, but you can use compiz too === Geck1 [n=bpeters@139.177.225.167] has left #xubuntu [] === Blais1 [n=blaise@87-194-58-222.bethere.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [07:56] Hello all [07:57] I have a strange problem with my sound [07:57] I get lots of noise coming through my speakers when there is activity on the screen, or even when I move my mouse around, how can I fix this? [07:58] Are you drivers installed properly [07:58] I believe so [07:58] how can I tell? [07:58] I have onboard sound [07:58] Do you have a dual boot? [07:58] yes [07:58] Is it alright in Windows? [07:58] I don't notice it [07:59] so I would say yez [07:59] So then its not the speakers.. [07:59] thats an obscure problem === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [08:04] I had this too, no idea what it was [08:04] *had* this? [08:04] Not sure havent checked, was just very faint. very silent. [08:05] oh [08:05] I'm using Edgy [08:05] perhaps the latest version would be better [08:05] I can't seem to upgrade though [08:05] using the system updater [08:07] why dont you just burn the iso and go from there [08:08] Blais1 if you get the alt cd to feisty, you can upgrade off of that [08:08] My PC is oldish (1.3ghz Athlon) will the performance suffer? [08:08] 1GB RAM [08:09] Blais1 that's not to bad, so Xubuntu is perfect for you [08:09] good [08:09] so you wuold recommend 7.04 iso? [08:09] of Xubuntu [08:10] yes [08:10] yes I do [08:10] ok, I'll try it, thank you === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === krillepille [n=krille@c83-253-151-71.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu [08:15] Hi. I have a problem... [08:16] Or 2. [08:18] How do I change the refresh rate or resolution of the boot and power off screens? [08:19] i've got a very old monitor === Pumpernickle [n=Pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === o19 [n=chatzill@drms-590c7ba6.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #xubuntu [08:42] hi === Blais1 [n=blaise@87-194-58-222.bethere.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === nzk [n=nzk@unaffiliated/nzk] has joined #xubuntu === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has joined #xubuntu === TaJMoX [n=TaJMoX@unaffiliated/tajmox] has joined #xubuntu [09:36] How do I make a program auto start? [09:45] for example, I want tilda, gaim, and checkgmail to run automatically every time i start the comptuer [09:46] TaJMoX: go to Applications > Settings > Autostarted Applications [09:46] then click on the "add" button [09:46] oh dear me [09:46] *bluch* [09:46] blush [09:46] hehe [09:46] was that there previous version?? [09:47] btw, i know the guy who wrote tilda. he's a cool guy. :) [09:47] a previous version? [09:47] of what? [09:47] of xubuntu [09:48] oh, i'm not sure... [09:48] somehow i remember having to make a ~/Desktop/Autostart folder === Jester45 [n=ryan@d15-164.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Sharn [n=brandon@dsl-216-128-233-200.teton.id.tetontel.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:53] TaJMoX, nah that is ~/.config/autostart/ [09:53] ah thats right [09:53] :) [09:54] hiho Jester45 [09:54] hi [09:54] im having problems with cron [09:54] what problems? [09:55] would anyone know why nothing runs by cron? i put the command in crontab but nothing happens [09:55] Jester45: I use cron quite simple [09:55] Jester45, could you paste a line? [09:55] I write a text file: cron.txt [09:55] and then I just add it by issuing: crontab cron.txt [09:56] 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * root xfdesktop --reload [09:56] root? [09:56] yea i didnt want to both with running itas a user [09:57] huh [09:57] root is not a command [09:57] add the cron to the root crontab [09:57] its the user thats runs xfdesktop --reload [09:58] Jester45, that doesnt work that [09:58] way [09:58] that line is in /etc/crontab === darrend [n=darren@100.95.187.81.in-addr.arpa] has joined #xubuntu [09:58] just run sudo crontab -e if you want to run something as root [09:58] do i have to do that each boot? [09:59] Jester45: I don't understand what you want to do [09:59] hyper_ch, ah.. [09:59] hyper_ch, it adds the user in /etc/crontab [09:59] i want to run xfdesktop --replace every 5 mins [09:59] # m h dom mon dow user command [10:00] eer --reload* [10:00] Jester45: do it differently [10:00] hyper_ch, how [10:01] Jester45, use the full paths [10:01] Jester45: use this as a shell script [10:01] http://phpfi.com/246206 [10:01] and then run this script in cron [10:02] 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * sh /home/hyper/wallpaperchanger.sh [10:02] that is in my cron.txt [10:02] and then add it to cron itself by issuing: crontab cron.txt [10:02] im confused [10:03] why renice xfdesktop to change the background [10:03] well, if you have something important running that you don't want to lag [10:04] it takes like 1/25th of a second [10:05] don't renice it then [10:05] so crontab cant do commands they have to be scripts? [10:06] crontab can to an extent... but I found it simpler to make little scripts [10:09] ok i got the script [10:09] now how to add to cron? [10:09] i have been editing /etc/crontab [10:10] Jester45: I make im my home folder a cron.txt [10:10] copy the cron command in there [10:10] and add it by: crontab cron.txt [10:11] so but the entries into the .txt then crontab it? [10:11] put* [10:11] this is in my cron.txt: 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * sh /home/hyper/wallpaperchanger.sh [10:11] sh is the user? [10:11] no [10:12] sh is the command to run a shell script [10:12] how do i tell cron to run it as root [10:12] sudo crontab cron.txt [10:12] ok [10:12] then it will be added to the root cron [10:12] but why do you want to do that? [10:13] some times the diffrent ways to do 1 thing in linux is frustrating to learn [10:13] so that anyuser's desktop changes [10:14] and to update the entry? just sudo crontab it again? [10:14] edit the text file [10:15] and then again: sudo crontab cron.txt [10:15] now to make one start mpd as an alarm clock :) [10:15] k [10:15] ? [10:15] I just like to have my cron jobs in a text files... makes it much simpler to edit and transfer [10:16] 0 9 * * * alarmclock.sh [10:16] that should work [10:17] alarmclock.sh = mpc volume mpc play [10:17] volume = 100 [10:17] and a htokey to turn it off :0 [10:19] I use my cellphone as alarm clock [10:19] Or just sudo crontab -e to edit roots crontab file.... [10:20] And, if your using xfce you don't need a seperate script to change the wallpaper. [10:21] Sharn: how do you do it then? [10:21] One sec [10:21] kde has an integrated changer [10:21] xfce only changes upon boot [10:21] 0,15,30,45 * * * * killall -USR1 xfdesktop === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06CC85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:21] That's mine [10:21] And it works great for me. [10:22] I had that also a long time ago [10:22] hallo [10:22] Sharn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328792 [10:22] hiho slow-motion [10:23] hi hyper_ch [10:23] slow-motion: still up this late? [10:24] yes [10:24] slow-motion: not going out? [10:24] i'm a linux user [10:24] *g* [10:24] hyper_ch, so what is in your wallpaperchanger.sh? [10:25] Sharn: well, I took one of the suggestions to my thread: http://phpfi.com/246206 [10:26] slow-motion: so? Linux is portable ;) [10:27] Mmk. Is it better, or faster or something? I know so very little about bash scripting. :P === tuna-fish [n=tuna@dna248-246.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [10:27] i'm watching tv at the moment [10:27] ell, if you play games e.g. cs and you don't want anything to use the cpu too much it will first set the priority to lowest.... [10:28] Ok [10:28] it's just more advanced... [10:28] Meh, compiz-fusion has my desktop all confused anyway. [10:28] but you're right, the killall -USR xfdesktop works fine === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === nihang [n=nihangsh@59.95.0.250] has joined #xubuntu [10:30] I want a xubuntu cd [10:31] download it [10:31] Anyone there? [10:31] I can't. I'm on 56K. [10:32] Hello... [10:32] order one through shipit [10:32] you can [10:32] but you dont want to [10:32] because it will take a month [10:33] Can I really order a xubuntu cd? [10:33] dunno, have a look there [10:34] No, I checked and you can't order [10:34] I don't think you can [10:35] you cn order a ubuntu, then convert it [10:35] can* [10:35] How?, [10:35] How to convert ubuntu into xubuntu? [10:35] install a server (cli) version from the shipit cd then run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop === linuxnub [n=ubuntunu@c-76-111-22-174.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:36] hello [10:36] Thanks, Jester45. Will try... [10:36] xubuntu is baseded off of ubuntu, it has all the same core packages [10:36] wow 1100 in #ubuntu and 73 in here lol [10:36] Thanks. [10:36] that will still require a lot to download [10:36] and the same repo, you can have ubuntu and xubuntu installed at the same time if you wanted [10:36] linuxnub: so what? [10:36] Jester45. Does that mean it will need to download something? [10:37] nihang: yes [10:37] nihang, yes all the xfce stuff, ~300mb [10:37] WoW [10:37] or can just install ubuntu [10:37] how do you get rid of all the gnome specific crap after you apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?? [10:37] !language | linuxnub [10:37] linuxnub: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [10:37] linuxnub, have fun with that [10:38] nihang, the only problem you might wantto tink about [10:38] i already did the apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop [10:38] and the autoremove for the libs [10:38] linuxnub: have a look at psychocats website... all relevant packages are listed there === nihang [n=nihangsh@59.95.0.250] has left #xubuntu [] [10:39] ya seen that its a very long list [10:39] nihang, is that if you install a cli server, you have to set up your dial up via cli wich is harder. but if you dual-boot or have a 2nd computer you can transfer the xubuntu-dsktop packages over so that its simpler [10:39] ive done the fusesmb install too for thunar works great === Jester45 likes to fuse ftp [10:40] would doing an apt-get remove gnome do the trick or would that screw things up === hyper_ch is using konqueror [10:40] fuseftp is better than any filemanager could do... it even lets to use it in the cli [10:41] linuxnub: hmmm, if the trick to completly remove gnome can be done with removing one package, why do you think did psychocat list all the relevant packages? [10:41] to get back to pure xfce [10:41] Jester45: ever had a look at konqui? [10:41] which is not necessarily the right thing to do with xubuntu [10:42] matter of fact thats probably pretty dumb to do with xubuntu [10:42] linuxnub: then you did not carefully read what psychocat writes [10:43] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ubuntu-desktop&searchon=names&version=all&release=all [10:44] nixternal, i could help you out a little by pre downloading the packages and compressing it all [10:44] Jester45: nihang left [10:44] oops [10:44] i just ni === deep [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [10:45] well fuseftp or fusesmb i guess they both work pretty well [10:45] for me fusesmb absolutely screams in thunar [10:47] yea... but the ubuntu repos doesnt have smb support :0 === dvx [n=dvx@88.83.244.242] has joined #xubuntu [10:53] hyper_ch im using your wallpaper script it works way better than what i had before (closer to what you used Sharn) [10:54] TaJMoX: those suggestions aren't from me... someone made them in my howto and I just use them now also === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === linuxnub [n=ubuntunu@c-76-111-22-174.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@adsl-71-149-247-111.dsl.mtry01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === kafran [n=kafran@201.79.205.231] has joined #xubuntu === aroo_ [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illu45@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === maximilian1st [n=maximili@212-41-93-242.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #xubuntu [12:11] Hi folks [12:11] hi [12:13] To the gutsy gibbon users wanting to get rid of Network Manager for the wireless side, I can suggest to take a look at the Airconfig project. http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig It works here on my notebook and looks very promising. [12:14] ok [12:16] it depends on ghal which is to be found on the same svn server and location as airconfig itself. [12:18] i will past that on, i myself im hooked to gbit networking [12:18] i tink i would blast my brains out if transfering all my data over wireless [12:19] hyper_ch, my cron is still not working but i will talk about that later