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morph_hello all just installed 7.10 and ran an update that didnt go through12:15
morph_now i cant run adept manager at all12:15
morph_says something else is using manager12:16
morph_or updating12:16
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jussi01!adeptfix12:16
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:16
jussi01morph_: does that help?12:17
morph_yes12:17
morph_second one did12:17
morph_all is good now12:17
morph_thank you12:17
jussi01no probs :)12:17
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niko__how do i mount xd card?12:18
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niko__could someone give me the command for mounting xd card ?12:22
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dromerhow can I make my scanner work?12:24
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dromerI've never gotten it to work under windows, but I have high hopes for linux ;)12:26
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jussi01dromer: it would help to know the make and model...12:26
jussi01!scanner | dromer12:27
ubotudromer: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners12:27
dromerjussi01: sorry, it's a Starlight Starscan 490012:27
dromerhmm, can't find the cables atm though :P12:27
jussi01dromer: have a look at those links, more than that i dont know.12:27
dromerok, thnx :)12:27
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pavonHi, I just installed 7.04 and SVG icons don't appear to be working correctly - they alpha channel is either 100 tranparent or opaque.12:36
pavonIs this a known issue or do I have something setup wrong?12:36
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sunnyhoursi got beryl installed and am having fun with the different toys. Can anyone tell me how to use the rain effect? can't figure it out12:40
vzduchpavon: example?12:40
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pavonWell the highlights on the konquerer icon in the taskbar are solid white circles, and the Tango folder icons are solid white on top and solid blue on bottom, instead of fading between the two.12:43
pavonDrop shadows are solid "horseshoes" on the sides of the icons.12:44
intelikeydpkg --configure -a12:44
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pavonintelikey: didn't show any unconfigured packages12:47
vzduchno issues here, everything looks normal12:48
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pavonhere are some screenshots: http://infohost.nmt.edu/~jpeacock/peephole/kde-icons/12:53
PhinnFortwhat should i get for the debug version of konqueror?12:53
pavonwhen using the smaller (bitmap) icons it looks fine, but the larger one (svg) don't render correctly.12:53
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Sunn_TI can't seem to write files from a Kubuntu partition to an NTFS partition. What can I do?12:55
PhinnFort!ntfs | Sunn_T12:55
ubotuSunn_T: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:55
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intelikey!ntfs-3g12:55
PhinnFort!ntfs-3g | Sunn_T12:55
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions12:55
ubotuSunn_T: please see above12:55
intelikeyhwclock --utc | testing.sh12:56
intelikeybah  mouse is acting up again.12:56
PhinnFortheh12:57
PhinnFortfun?12:57
intelikeyit only does that if i try to use X and don't kill the mouse first12:58
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vzduchapart from the Konq icon in the taskbar, that looks more like a messed-up icon set12:59
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PhinnFortintelikey: kill how?12:59
PhinnFortget a cat12:59
intelikeyPhinnFort /etc/init.d/gpm stop01:00
PhinnFortah;)01:00
PhinnFortcat /etc/init.d/gpm01:00
PhinnFort:P01:00
intelikeyheh01:00
TeraDyneXD01:00
PhinnFortcat /dev/mice01:00
intelikeymonkey see monkey do,  except in *ubnntu  then it's monkey C monkey get confused, ask stupid questions.   :)01:01
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PhinnFort:P01:02
TeraDyneintelikey: except for codemonkeys01:02
intelikeywhy would they be here ???01:02
intelikey:)01:02
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PhinnFortthey're in #ubuntu-dev or wherevery they hang out01:02
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intelikey+1 maybe01:03
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SJrXWhat packages do I Need to install to complie C++ programs?01:03
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intelikeybuild-essential01:03
TeraDyneintelikey: Maybe the did what I did last night. "sudo rm -r /var/lib/dpkg".01:03
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SJrXthanks01:03
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PhinnFort!info build-essential01:04
PhinnFort!info build-essentials01:04
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB01:04
PhinnFortfirst one01:04
ubotuPackage build-essentials does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:04
intelikeyTeraDyne heh bet that was fun    :)01:04
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TeraDyneintelikey: I ment to remove the lock, not realizing that adept had been opened. I didn't realize that I had forgotten to add the "lock" part until it was too late.01:05
PhinnFortwhoops01:05
TeraDyneintelikey: In the end, I had to reinstall Kubuntu.01:05
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joacim_What is the name of the new partition manager in the ubuntu/kubuntu installer ? (replacing gparted in the feisty installer)01:06
PhinnFortTeraDyne: you could just've copied it over from somewhere01:06
intelikeyTrevinho http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3782601:06
intelikeyi know.  "too late now"...01:07
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TeraDynePhinnFort: Maybe, but why would I take the easy way out? That's no fun.01:08
PhinnFort;)01:08
intelikeynot to be calling "spade" but why would you add -r  for a lock file  ???01:09
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klobsterwhy does ubuntu use dash?01:10
intelikeywhy not ?01:10
SlimeyPete...because it breaks things?01:10
Arwenklobster, because it's posix compliant01:11
SlimeyPetesome apps include install scripts which won't work in Dash01:11
intelikeySlimeyPete no.  thing that are broken show up when you don't have the "bash externtions"01:11
Arwen...so they should have "#! /bin/bash"01:11
Arwen/bin/sh should be a fully POSIX-compliant shell01:11
SlimeyPeteArwen: I agree, but the reality is that they don't ;)01:11
TeraDyneintelikey: Not too sure, but I think I had tried it before, figured the "lock" was a directory for some strange reason, and added "-r" to it01:12
Arwenso go fix them, lol, they're just scripts01:12
SlimeyPeteI'd prefer them to just work, tbh.01:12
SlimeyPeteand many newbies won't know what to do.01:12
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intelikeySlimeyPete exactly why the packages that have that bug need reported and fixed.01:13
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SlimeyPetethe packages do tend to work OK these days, IME01:13
SlimeyPetebut various non-packaged things don01:13
SlimeyPete't01:13
SlimeyPetethe most recent example I've found is Ingres01:14
intelikeyyou don't rewrite posix just because someone expected /bin/sh to be bash .....01:14
PhinnFortdon't use non-packaged stuff then;)01:14
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PhinnFortSlimeyPete: file a bug to get it packaged:P01:14
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TeraDynePhinnFort: I would agree with you, but SeaMonkey packages don't exist.01:15
SlimeyPeteI suppose I could ask for a package01:15
PhinnFortTeraDyne: package them yourself, then01:15
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PhinnForti filed a bug asking for a tastymenu package, and a couple of days later someone had made one and was asking for it getting included in gutsy01:15
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TeraDynePhinnFort: With "checkinstall"? I tried, it doesn't work for me.01:15
klobsterarwen: that isn't a valid answer, but i am seeing that this is a bigger issue than I first thought, so I'm going to drop it.01:16
PhinnFortwell, checkinstall is more a replacement for make install01:16
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russianhello everyone01:16
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TeraDyneI know. I followed the HowTo for checkinstall in the community docs, and it failed everytime.01:17
PhinnFort!hi | Russian01:17
ubotuRussian: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:17
PhinnFortTeraDyne: checkinstall -D make install01:17
PhinnFort?01:17
PhinnForthow did it fail?01:18
TeraDyneI didn't add the "make install" part.01:18
TeraDyneI followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall01:18
PhinnFortI think I used the manpage the first time...01:18
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PhinnFort:P01:19
RussianI am new to linux01:19
RussianCan anyone tell me how do I install firefox hehe01:19
intelikeyback to dash for one sec.   one of the most common 'glob' codes that you find foolishly implanted in shell scripts is   [[something] ]       [[ is a bash extention, it should never be in a #!/bin/sh script.01:19
TeraDyne!firefox01:19
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:19
PhinnFortbut the best thing is to make a real package (consists of creating a Debian dir, that gets thrown into a patch.gz, and a .dsc file, afaik)01:19
Russianty01:19
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TeraDynePhinnFort: If I can manage to recompile SeaMonkey without crashing my laptop, I'll try to make a package for it. Thanks for the correction.01:20
PhinnFortyw;)01:20
vzduchFirefox is not the default browser in Kubuntu, by default it's not even installed..01:20
TeraDyneNow, if someone can make the correction in the ComDocs.01:20
PhinnFortthat's because konqueror is so much better01:20
intelikeyvzduch that doesn't say kubunt  it says ubuntu01:21
Russian!register01:21
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:21
intelikeyand being the default in ubuntu that means it's in the "main" repo01:21
vzduchintelikey: that's the reason I said it01:21
banksey_Hi guys, I'm using Banshe, And when I try to play any of my music, It jus goes through them all and won't play any, Does Banshe support only a certain file format? As far as I know, They are all MP3.01:22
vzduch!codecs | banksey_01:22
ubotubanksey_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:22
PhinnFortbanksey_: use Amarok01:22
PhinnFortor Juk01:22
TeraDynePhinnFort: You beat me too it.01:23
banksey_I don't like Amarok :P01:23
intelikeyvzduch you can submit a correction for the infonode if you like.   /msg ubotu no ff is "what ever you think it should say"01:23
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PhinnFortbanksey_: use Juk then01:23
PhinnFortbanksey_: not some gtk01:23
PhinnFortcrap01:23
PhinnFort;P01:23
banksey_LOL, Okay, I'll check it out, Thanks01:23
PhinnFort!info juk | banksey_01:23
ubotubanksey_: juk: music organizer and player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 705 kB, installed size 1716 kB01:23
vzduchRussiansu: no unsolicited query please01:23
banksey_Phinnfort:Thank you :)01:24
RussiansuOke01:24
PhinnFort;)01:24
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TeraDynevzduch: you can't msg the bot without being registered, so he couldn't use the alternative.01:24
PhinnFortbanksey_: it should lower your memory usage drastically, since it re-uses the kdelibs, instead of loading those horrible gnome libs;)01:24
vzduchTeraDyne: ?01:24
banksey_Phinnforr: Ya, When I saw Banshe was for Gnome when it was loading up, I got a bit worried :P01:25
intelikeybanksey_ there is nothing wrong with using gtk apps in a qt based DE  it's just a little slower loading up.01:26
TeraDynevzduch: The only ways you can get info from the bot is to ask in the channel or to PM it. He was looking for info on how to register, so I'm guessing he couldn't msg it.01:26
PhinnFort;)01:26
PhinnFortintelikey: and  it uses alot mmore ra01:26
vzduchTeraDyne: that has nothing to do w/ him asking me whether I'm Dutch..01:26
PhinnFortm*more ram01:26
intelikeyPhinnFort define "a lot" please01:27
intelikeycouple meg maybe01:27
vzduchbesides, my nick's not ubotu ;)01:27
PhinnFortintelikey: I will once my machine returns to norma01:27
PhinnFortl01:27
TeraDynevzduch: O_o; Where did he say that? or did he msg you?01:27
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vzduchTeraDyne: he queried me, yes01:27
PhinnFortgetting a backtrace forr konqi, and that grinds itt01:28
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TeraDynevzduch: then why didn't you msg him back instead of putting it on the main channel?01:28
PhinnFortintelikey: this much: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html01:28
banksey_Phinnfort: Thanks man, Work great :)01:28
PhinnFortgood to hear;)01:28
vzduchTeraDyne: ime, exposure is more helpful in such cases :)01:29
TeraDynevzduch: XD01:29
intelikeythat bench mark is way off.01:29
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PhinnFortintelikey: how so?01:30
crash_Anyone alive and available for some questions?\01:30
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PhinnFortintelikey: i find it pretty accurate01:30
PhinnFortcrash_: I'm alive...01:30
TeraDyne!ask | crash_01:30
ubotucrash_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:30
crash_What the heck is my nick doing set to Crash...01:31
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CrunchyFerrettthere we go01:31
TeraDyneXD01:31
intelikeyPhinnFort it said 33m for plain X   i just checked mem before and after strting xorg + blackbox    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3782701:31
PhinnFortintelikey: well, system daemons?01:31
intelikeyif their beanch mark is that scued on just X  what is it on the rest..01:31
CrunchyFerrettRighto. So, this is the first time Ive put any real effort into discovering the world of Linux. Im running the "Fesity Fawn" release of Kubuntu.01:32
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nosrednaekimok.. cool01:32
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CrunchyFerrettMy Broadcom 43xx wireless adapter does not function. At least, it refuses to see any networks. Any thoughts?01:32
intelikeyPhinnFort "plain X" does not include any "system daemons"    plain X  means  plain X   where i come from...01:32
PhinnFortintelikey: doesn't he include dbus and stuff?01:33
intelikeyand plain X uses less than 4M01:33
intelikeyPhinnFort no.01:33
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PhinnForthal at least01:33
intelikeyPhinnFort it's kde that starts those things01:33
Russiansu!firefox01:34
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:34
PhinnFortintelikey: that is before x got modularized, i believe01:34
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PhinnFortintelikey: and he has hal in "plain x"01:34
PhinnFort"...3.0M by HAL daemon..."01:34
PhinnFortbut the rest should be accurate01:35
intelikeyX uses < 4M01:35
intelikeyaccurate ?01:35
PhinnFortintelikey: with how many modules laoded?01:35
PhinnFort*loaded01:35
PhinnFortand which?01:35
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intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3782801:36
PhinnFortXorg.0.log would be more usefull, as it loads a whole lot automatically too, afaik01:37
PhinnFortand without knowing which modules he loaded, it isn't usefull at all01:37
PhinnFortbut that doesn't matter for the rest of the benchmark, as he diff's the mem usages01:37
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intelikeyyou are beating a dead horse anyway.   still can't make up 33M01:37
PhinnFortintelikey: before X was modularized, it could very well have used 33M, with Hal and friends01:38
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PhinnFortand I'm also saying it's irrelevant01:38
intelikeyPhinnFort no not with hal   X does not start hal01:38
PhinnFortintelikey: he counts it in a blank X session01:39
PhinnFortintelikey: on Gentoo, hal is started way before X01:39
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PhinnFortintelikey: HAL is not just used by GUI-apps01:39
Russiansu!ati01:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:39
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intelikeyhal is not used at all here  :)01:42
PhinnFortintelikey: how does KDE know when you insert a CD?01:42
intelikeyif i want it to know. i tell it.01:42
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PhinnFort:P01:42
intelikeyor would if i used kde01:43
Russiansuadd/remove programmes always opens so slow?01:43
intelikeyhas to get root env i guess01:43
PhinnFortRussiansu: Adept isn't very good, imho01:44
PhinnFortRussiansu: feel free to write a replacement;)01:45
intelikeyhehhe his lowest numbers still exceed my highest ones.    "/me thinks he should tweek his suse box..."   :)01:45
PhinnFort;)01:45
PhinnFortsuse is pretty, but bloated, afaik;)01:45
TeraDynePhinnFort: Someone else already has. They're called "apt-get" and "aptitude".01:45
PhinnFort;)01:45
klobsterintelikey: you don't use ubuntu OR KDE?  Why of all channels are you in here all the time?01:46
PhinnFortTeraDyne: how about a Qt/KDE frontend to Aptitude?01:46
PhinnFortklobster: he loves you, you fool!01:46
PhinnFortwhy _do_ you think he's stalking you?01:46
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vzduchPhinnFort: how about using aptitude on the cmdline? *gg*01:46
TeraDynePhinnFort: Only adept, though I think there was a QT version of Synaptics.01:46
PhinnFortvzduch: I do, but Adept doesn't give a good impressions to newcomers01:47
PhinnFortTeraDyne: I think it was discontinued01:47
intelikeyklobster ubuntu ?    i didn't say i didn't use ubuntu,01:47
TeraDyne!ksynaptics | PhinnFort01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
TeraDyne!info ksynaptics | PhinnFort01:47
PhinnFort!info ksynaptics01:47
ubotuphinnfort: ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)01:47
PhinnFortlol01:47
PhinnFort!info ksynaptic01:47
ubotuPackage ksynaptic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:47
vzduch!info kynaptic01:47
ubotuPackage kynaptic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:48
PhinnFort!info kynics01:48
TeraDyneah, forgot to remove the s.01:48
ubotuPackage kynics does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:48
BluesKaj!keep trying01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keep trying - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
TeraDyneXD01:48
PhinnFort:P01:48
vzduchhrhr01:48
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shane2peruPhinnFort: how do you do that?01:49
shane2peru^^^01:49
PhinnFort[01:48]  <-- Graham has left this server ("RUN AWAY!").01:49
intelikeyklobster actually cause there is generally a better class of L users in here  :)01:49
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shane2peruPhinnFort: I mean get it to show up with the star01:49
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PhinnFortshane2peru: write /me infront01:50
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PhinnFort;)01:50
shane2peruPhinnFort: thxs01:50
PhinnFortwelcome to the wonderful world of IRC;)01:50
shane2peruPhinnFort: always learning.01:50
PhinnFortaren't we all?01:51
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PhinnFortintelikey: dialup?01:52
PhinnFortyou keep falling out01:52
RussiansuXGL works better in Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:52
PhinnFortRussiansu: you decide01:52
PhinnFortRussiansu: I don't think there's much of a difference any more01:52
RussiansuYou know a good guide?01:53
PhinnFort!beryl01:53
PhinnFort!xgl01:53
TeraDynePhinnFort: If he keeps falling out, maybe you should strap him to his seat.01:53
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects01:53
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:53
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PhinnFortRussiansu: what kind of video card?01:53
RussiansuATI01:53
dwbellhow can I find out how audio is encoded within an avi file?01:54
PhinnFortRussiansu: new or old?01:54
intelikeystrap ?01:54
PhinnFortdwbell: try "file"01:54
RussiansuSapphire Radein 9600XT01:54
PhinnFortintelikey: you keep falling out01:54
RussiansuRadeon*01:54
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intelikeymodem reset on me01:54
PhinnFortRussiansu: you should be okay without XGL then, just plain AIGLX01:54
TeraDyne[18:53]  <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: If he keeps falling out, maybe you should strap him to his seat01:54
PhinnFort^^01:54
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RussiansuHmm why is that?01:54
PhinnFortRussiansu: just install beryl01:54
RussiansuI am kinda new to linux01:55
Russiansuusing it for 1 hour now01:55
PhinnFortRussiansu: that card is relatively old, and has rather well supported open drivers01:55
intelikeyPhinnFort every four hours.   server side  nothing i can do about it,  well except change isp's01:55
RussiansuWindows Xp user, so can you explain?01:55
PhinnFortRussiansu: hang on a sec01:55
Russiansuoke thanks01:55
dwbellPhinnFort: thanks01:55
PhinnFortyw01:55
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PhinnFortRussiansu: have you enabled the multiverse repositories?01:56
Russiansu0_o01:56
intelikey!repos01:56
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:56
RussiansuI am sorry I dont have a clue what you are talking about hehe01:56
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intelikey                     ^01:57
PhinnFortRussiansu: in adept package manager01:57
RussiansuOke opened it, should I install them all?01:57
PhinnFortRussiansu: isntall beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes01:58
PhinnFort*install01:58
PhinnFortRussiansu: just enable the "multiverse" repo01:58
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Russiansuall installed01:59
Russiansunow what?01:59
PhinnFortRussiansu: run Adept Package Manager, click "Adept" menu, and the package sources  (second from top)01:59
PhinnFortRussiansu: hit alt+f2, and run "beryl-manager"01:59
intelikeyuni/multi-verse main <restricted ?>   for normal update and security01:59
Russiansucould not run specific command02:00
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PhinnFortRussiansu: did you install those programs?02:00
PhinnFortRussiansu: beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes02:00
Russiansulet me search again02:01
Russiansuinstalling02:01
PhinnFortgood, good02:02
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Russiansuk typed beryl-manager somethings happening now ^^02:02
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crash_well02:03
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Russiansusweet02:03
Russiansu:D02:03
PhinnFort;)02:03
RussiansuThanks a lot PhinnFort02:03
PhinnFortyou're welcome02:03
CrunchyFerrettnow I cant get out of 640x48002:03
RussiansuOne more thing02:03
Russiansuhow do I change my resolution02:03
Russiansuto 1270x102402:03
PhinnFortRussiansu: System Settings -> monitor and display?02:03
intelikeyCrunchyFerrett you installed nvidia drivers ?02:03
CrunchyFerrettDONT DO IT!!02:03
CrunchyFerrettI TRIED it and now I cant get out of 640x48002:04
RussiansuIt shows max 1024x76802:04
intelikey/join #ubuntu-effects CrunchyFerrett02:04
PhinnFortRussiansu: you could just try to move the xorg.conf file, and reboot, and it should autodetect02:04
Russiansuwhat about this02:05
RussiansuAdept Notifier, I cant close it02:05
PhinnFortRussiansu: right click02:05
Russiansuyep02:05
Russiansuclose02:05
PhinnFortRussiansu: on the green thingy02:05
Russiansunot closing02:05
Bllzhey guys.  I formatted a partition as FAT but i'm unable to mount it.... any sugestions?  I already looked at that ubuntu help website and just got thoroughly confused02:05
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Russiansuaha02:05
Russiansu:D02:05
Russiansuthank you again02:05
PhinnFort;)02:05
Russiansuxorg.conf you say02:06
intelikeyBllz which partition ?02:06
Russiansuand where can I find this file?02:06
Bllzit's media/sda302:06
PhinnFortRussiansu: run "kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure --frontend kde xserver-xorg""02:06
soulrideri have a question for those who know about networking02:06
intelikeyBllz that's not a partition.02:06
Bllzit's not?02:06
soulrideris it possible to make allt he computer sin my house connect to the internet through me ?02:06
Bllzit should be02:06
PhinnFortRussiansu: in alt+f202:06
intelikeyBllz that's a mount point02:06
soulridermy internet is connected to my router and that has the DSL modem02:07
PhinnFortsoulrider: yes02:07
Bllzoh right... it's partition 3 then02:07
intelikeyBllz all partitions are /dev/*02:07
soulrideri wanna use my comp as some sort of filter02:07
PhinnFortsoulrider: set up internet forwarding, and make all the other computers use you as gateway02:07
CrunchyFerrettNo one seems to be alive in unbuntu-effects02:07
soulriderPhinnFort: how can i do that ?02:07
soulriderPhinnFort: and what do i ahve to do in this computer for it to work ?02:07
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Bllzinelikey, it's the last partition on the disk?02:07
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trakinasdoes anyone programs in java here? i have some basic doubts.02:07
PhinnFort!forwarding02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about forwarding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
intelikeyBllz ok open a konsole and type this; grep sda302:07
soulridertrakinas: ask02:07
PhinnFortsoulrider: one sec02:07
RussiansuPhinnFort not working02:08
Bllzintelikey, i'm on ubuntu, is the command the same?02:08
intelikeyBllz ok open a konsole and type this; grep sda3 /etc/fstab02:08
intelikeysorry for the short post.02:08
PhinnFortRussiansu: kdesu konqueror02:08
trakinassoulrider: pvt, any problem? I have to explain and dont want to go offtopic02:08
soulridersure02:08
intelikeyBllz yes commands are the same.02:08
Bllz# /dev/sda302:08
Bllz/dev/sda3   /media/sda3   ntfs-3g  defaults,locale=en_US.utf8    0    002:08
PhinnFortRussiansu: go to "/etc/X11", and cut out the file xorg.conf, and paste it in your home folder02:08
PhinnFortRussiansu: then reboot02:08
Linux_Galoreheres a question, in Gutsty were do they now put the modules section for xorg02:08
intelikeyBllz there is why you are having trubble .02:08
PhinnFortsoulrider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137002:08
Russiansuk02:09
Bllzwhy?02:09
intelikeyBllz in the gnome-terminal type;  usdo nano /etc/fstab02:09
RussiansuAccess denied lol02:09
intelikeyBllz edit that line you posted ^  change the  ntfs-3g  to vfat02:09
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PhinnFortRussiansu: did you run "kdesu konqueror"?02:10
Russiansuyes02:10
Bllzntfs-3g to vfat... okay hang on02:10
soulriderthanks PhinnFort02:11
PhinnFortRussiansu: run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then02:11
PhinnFortRussiansu: and copy everything in the file02:11
PhinnFortRussiansu: and then paste it to http://rafb.net/paste02:11
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PhinnFortRussiansu: and I'll fix your resolutions;)02:11
PhinnFortsoulrider: yw02:11
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Bllzintelikey i changed it02:12
intelikeyBllz now type this;  sudo umount /media/* ;sudo mount -a   #should be all there is to it.02:12
Bllzdo i save and exit?02:12
RussiansuK done02:12
Russiansuhttp://rafb.net/p/aeN8m061.html02:12
PhinnFortthanks02:12
klobsterdoes beryl have better support for multple user yet?02:12
intelikeyBllz yes save exit and type02:12
Bllzdo i hit control and then the letter to execute the commands at the bottom?02:12
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intelikeyyes02:13
PhinnFortRussiansu: try deleting all the "        SubSection "Display" subsections02:13
intelikey^ means the control key02:13
PhinnFortRussiansu: so that the screen sections is more like this: http://rafb.net/p/rPjT2p97.html02:13
PhinnFortthen save02:13
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RussiansuThanks done02:14
Russiansunow Reboot?02:14
Bllzokay i typed the command but now i don't see the partition on my desktop02:14
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Bllzumount: /media/sda3: not mounted02:15
Bllzumount: /media/sdb1: not mounted02:15
Bllzumount: /media/sdc2: not mounted02:15
Bllzmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,02:15
Bllz       missing codepage or other error02:15
Bllz       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:15
Bllz       dmesg | tail  or so02:15
Bllzmount: special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist02:15
PhinnFortRussiansu: yeah02:15
aroo!paste02:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:15
RussiansuPhinnFort Thank you , brb02:15
PhinnFortRussiansu: or just close all open programs and ctrl+alt+backspace02:15
Bllzi don't mind reformatting if I have to02:15
intelikeyBllz ok it's not formated vfat.  you must have missed something there.02:15
[Relic] is there a way to get firestarter to start on boot with the normal user color scheme or is there an easy way to import normal user settings to root w/o too many problems?02:15
Bllzintelikey, would reformatting fix it?02:16
tamaraI am tring to install an run vmware and keep getting error meassages something about breaking packagesor not down loading02:16
intelikeyBllz sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda302:16
Bllzmkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)02:16
intelikeysudo mount -a02:17
Bllzlouist@louist-desktop:~$ sudo mount -a02:17
Bllzmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,02:17
Bllz       missing codepage or other error02:17
Bllz       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:17
Bllz       dmesg | tail  or so02:17
Bllzmount: special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist02:17
Bllzlouist@louist-desktop:~$02:17
intelikeyBllz ok stop flooding the channel please.02:18
aroo!paste02:18
PhinnFort!flood | Bllz02:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:18
Bllzintelikey sorry02:18
ubotuBllz: please see above02:18
arooFor the second time02:18
Bllzkk sorry guys. still learning the ropes here lol02:19
PhinnFort;)02:19
intelikeyBllz would you pastebin the output of this command so we can see what has gone arie; cat /proc/partitions /proc/mounts02:19
Bllzokay. let me figure that out real quick02:20
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russianHi I am back02:20
russianbut have new problem02:20
russianthe close button and minimize maximaze is missing02:20
tamaraI am tring to install an run vmware and keep getting error meassages something about breaking packagesor not down loading02:20
PhinnFortrussian: try another theme02:21
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Russianstill missing02:21
Bllzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28008/02:22
PhinnFortwell, I don't even use beryl, so I have no idea...;)02:22
PhinnForttry in #ubuntu-effects02:22
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Bllzsorry about the dealay intelikey... i'm on dialup... oh joy lol02:22
RussianThanks02:22
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intelikeyBllz that's not the command i want.02:22
intelikeyBllz would you pastebin the output of this command so we can see what has gone arie; cat /proc/partitions /proc/mounts02:23
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Bllzintelikey. my bad!02:23
intelikeyBllz :)02:23
RussianBut the resolution worked thanks02:23
PhinnFortyw;)02:23
RussianPhinnFort you use this sort of XGL02:24
PhinnFortRussian: KUbuntu ships with some stupid standard settings, removing them and letting it set itself up automatically usually works better;)02:24
PhinnFortRussian: no02:24
RussianOr you just use plain?02:24
Bllzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28009/02:24
PhinnFortRussian: I use plain, because Yakuake crashes it with the drivers I use :(02:24
RussianHow to let it set automatically PhinnFort?02:24
Russiantoo bad :(02:24
PhinnFortRussian: it's automatically now02:25
PhinnFortRussian: that's what we removed from the config file02:25
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PhinnFortRussian: It will hopefully be fixed in Gutsy, which comes with a new version of Xorg02:25
RussianAgain you are talking chinese to me :P02:25
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PhinnFortRussian: next version of Ubuntu will come with new drivers;)02:26
Russianaha02:26
Bllzintelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28009/02:26
tamaraI am tring to install an run vmware and keep getting error meassages something about breaking packagesor not down loading02:26
Russianlol I cant even move windows now :P02:26
Russian0_o02:26
BluesKajPhinnFort, when's the official release ?02:26
PhinnFortBluesKaj: Xorg?02:26
PhinnFortin august02:26
BluesKajgutsy02:26
PhinnFortgutsy 10.0702:26
PhinnFort7.10?02:26
PhinnFortding ding02:27
PhinnFortRussian: try holding ALT while clicking on the window02:27
BluesKajoct02:27
PhinnFortyeah02:27
intelikeyBllz hmmm well the partition table looks ok  and if you issued the command; sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda3  #and it said it formated ok,  then the problem must still be in the fstab file.   pastebin this: cat /etc/fstab02:27
PhinnFortBluesKaj: six months releases02:27
BluesKajright02:27
Russianah tnx02:27
PhinnFortRussian: that works everywhere02:28
PhinnFort(except fullscreen)02:28
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Bllzintelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28010/02:29
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RussianThank you PhinnFort for all your help ^^02:30
PhinnFortRussian: you're very welcome;)02:31
PhinnFortbut I think I need to go to bed soon02:31
PhinnFortit's getting late02:31
RussianWhat is btw task manager?02:31
Russianlike in windows?02:31
ArwenRussian, ....?02:31
PhinnFortRussian: ctrl+esc?02:31
RussianYou know where you can view al the processes02:31
Russianaha tnx02:31
PhinnFortyw;)02:31
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PhinnFortRussian: in KDE 4 they plan to implement it coming with fire and brimstone and smoke and everything02:32
PhinnFortand it loads much quicker;)02:32
intelikeyBllz lets have a test at manual mount; sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3   # see what that tells us02:32
Russian0_o02:32
Russianreally02:32
RussianYou know why I even installed this02:32
PhinnFort?02:32
RussianI saw on youtuve, movie about XGL02:32
RussianAnd I had to try it hehe02:32
PhinnFort;)02:33
Russianyoutube that is *02:33
ArwenRussian, um, XGL sucks, is buggy, and overall pointless02:33
Bllzno output, intelikey02:33
Arwenmaybe you mean !compiz ?02:33
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intelikeythen it mounted02:33
necro_wtf, im unable to install sun-java6-bin02:33
RussianWell it still beats XP and Vista lol02:33
PhinnFort;)02:33
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necro_help me02:33
Arwen.............Xgl is the meaning of fail02:33
PhinnFort!windows | Russian02:33
ubotuRussian: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents02:33
Bllzintelikey, I don't see it on my desktop... is that normal?02:33
PhinnFort;)02:33
Arwenagain, I think you're talking about !compiz . Russian02:34
Russianhahaha02:34
Russianlol02:34
Arwenget your programs right02:34
intelikeyBllz let me revisit the last pastebin i'll get back to you.02:34
RussianCompiz?02:34
Russianwhats that02:34
Bllzokay02:34
Arwenit's what makes the pretty 3d effects02:34
necro_i'm installing ubuntu extra, when it tries to install sun-java6-bin, says cannot download some package or commit break packages!!!!02:34
ArwenXgl is a really crappy emulator02:34
Bllzintelikey you still have the link?02:34
sunnyhoursanyone know how to do the rain effect in beryl?02:34
RussianArwen tell me aboiut this Compiz please?02:34
Russian!compiz02:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:34
Arwensunnyhours, shift f9 iirc02:34
necro_can someone help me!!!!!!02:34
Arwenyou only need Xgl if your video drivers suck and need emulation02:35
Russianaah02:35
BluesKajRussian, yer asking for greif if you have an ATI card02:35
Russianlol02:35
Russianso bad?02:35
DaSkreechsunnyhours: depends on your config02:35
Arwenyeah, anything after 9600 Pro02:35
PhinnFortBluesKaj: only with the newer ones02:35
DaSkreechctrl+f9 i think02:35
Russian=/02:35
PhinnFortArwen: my 9800 works happily02:35
Arwenbecause ATI is anti-linux and AMD is just as bad02:35
Russianlol02:35
PhinnFortAMD used to be such a nice company02:36
BluesKajwell, it's hard to make it work...it can be done02:36
PhinnFort<3 Intel <3 ;)02:36
Russianso can I do any windows programmes on kubuntu?02:36
DaSkreechnecro_: sup?02:36
PhinnFortBluesKaj: r300 is rather well supported atm02:36
Russiandreamweaver? Photoshop?02:36
ArwenRussian, with wine or with vmware, you can02:36
PhinnFortBluesKaj: it's after that it's a huge nightmare02:36
Arwenbut forget the adobe cruft, Photoshop works up to v7 iirc02:36
ArwenDreamweaver has better alternatives02:36
Russian:(02:36
DaSkreechWhen did AMD become anti linux?02:36
RussianI need those things for my education02:36
ArwenDaSkreech, when they aquired ATI02:36
RussianIts windows or mac, and I cant stand Mac02:36
Arwens/aquired/acquired02:36
BluesKajPhinnFort, mine's an onboard xpress200G ... too darn much trouble just for some xtra eyecandy02:37
DaSkreechArwen: :-p thats stupid02:37
ArwenRussian, the only way to run recent Photoshops is to use vmware, which is uh... slow02:37
ArwenDaSkreech, no, because they've done nothing to fix ATI02:37
PhinnFortBluesKaj: I plan on buying a new laptop after summer, and i'll be darned if I don't get an intel graphics chip on it;)02:37
Russianlol02:37
Russianso I have to do02:37
Russianwith dual booth02:37
RussianI guess02:37
Russian^^02:37
PhinnFortRussian: try Krita02:37
ArwenRussian, you could try vmware, lol02:37
DaSkreechArwen: ha ha you can't expect that to happen that quickly02:37
necro_it's so difficult to enable mp302:37
BluesKajhehe , right on PhinnFort02:37
PhinnFort!info krita | Russian02:38
uboturussian: krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB02:38
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DaSkreechnecro_: really?02:38
Arwennecro_, um, no?02:38
yintelikeBllz fonud it.    the mount options in the fstab has  . not ,  that dot not comma    correct that and it should mount normally.  options seperator char must be comma      "/dev/sda3   /media/sda3   vfat  defaults,locale=en_US.utf8    0    0 "02:38
DaSkreechnecro_: did you read the link from ubotu?02:38
necro_yes the unbutun extra, it just keep failing to install anything02:38
DaSkreechRussian: New to linux i'm guessing?02:38
Bllzyintelike, can you walk me through it? how do i get to fstab again?02:39
RussianYeah 100% new02:39
DaSkreechnecro_: what error?02:39
DaSkreechRussian: Welcome02:39
necro_sun-java6-jre broken02:39
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RussianThanks02:39
necro_sun-java6-bin broken too02:39
DaSkreechnecro_: That has nothing to do with mp302:39
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necro_but from that guide i have to install ubuntu restrict extra whatever shit that is02:40
RussianDont really know where to start02:40
gon_!client-error-request-value-too-long02:40
PhinnFort!language | necro_02:40
Arwennecro_, 1: swearing doesn't help. 2. !repos02:40
RussianDoes this beryl, have same options as seen in video of XGL?02:40
necro_shit is swearing02:40
ubotunecro_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:40
necro_how about crap02:40
ArwenRussian, the XGL video was actually a video of beryl02:40
PhinnFortRussian: right click on the red diamond02:40
Arwenpeople just tend to mislabel it02:40
Russian0_o02:40
Russianwhere is the diamond?02:41
ArwenRussian, run "beryl-manager"02:41
PhinnFortRussian: should be in your systray02:41
necro_why do i need java for mp3?02:41
ArwenPhinnFort, he hasn't started it yet... lol02:41
Arwennecro_, you don't02:41
PhinnFortArwen: ah, ok02:41
RussianI think its loading now02:41
necro_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats02:41
Arwenyou need libxine1-ffmpeg02:41
Russianits done, but cant see it in systray02:41
necro_it says i need that package for mp3 or dvd02:41
DaSkreechnecro_: which guide02:41
PhinnFortArwen: libxine-extracodecs?02:41
necro_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats02:41
ArwenPhinnFort, no, libxine1-ffmpeg02:41
PhinnFortArwen: sure?02:42
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DaSkreechyes02:42
Arwenlibxine-extracodecs is deprecated02:42
Arwenso yes02:42
PhinnFortah, ok02:42
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DaSkreechPhinnFort: libxine-extracodecs installs libxine1-ffmpeg and libmad002:42
RussianArwenL I cant see the red crystal in my systray02:42
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Arwennecro_, it says     *02:42
Arwen      To play mp3's with Amarok, install the package libxine1-ffmpeg (which will install libmad0 as well).02:42
DaSkreechit;s pretty safe to install libxine-extracodecs02:42
necro_how do youget your "mp3 support" in amarok?02:42
Bllzyintelike, how do i change the fstab error? is there a command to open the file?02:43
Arwennecro_, you install libxine1-extracodecs for crying out loud02:43
DaSkreechnecro_: install libxine1-ffmpeg02:43
PhinnFortnecro_: open Adept Package MAnager, search for "libxine-ffmpeg" and install it02:43
Arwenoops, yeah, libxine1-ffmpeg*02:43
Arwennecro_, just run "apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg"02:43
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necro_apt-get install? am i supposed to use that adept?02:44
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PhinnFortnecro_: choose yer poison02:44
necro_if i use apt-get install, will adept recognize it?02:44
DaSkreechnecro_: you can install it either way02:44
DaSkreechnecro_: yes02:44
RussianPhinnFort?02:44
PhinnFortyup02:44
RussianI cant see the red crystal02:44
necro_so i can use kubuntu debian way02:44
PhinnFortRussian: did you run "beryl-manager"?02:44
DaSkreechnecro_: yes02:44
Russianyeo02:45
Russianfour times already :P02:45
Arwenand is it crashing? :P02:45
Arwenand are you looking in your system tray?02:45
Russianyeah02:45
Russianright below02:45
Russian^^02:45
Russianits showing my mouse, like its loading02:45
Russianbut it doesnt show up in systray02:45
Arwenhmm, run it in a terminal and tell us what it says?02:45
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Russianfailed to open device02:46
PhinnFortthat's nothing to worry about02:46
Russianshould I copy paste the error?02:46
necro_um, there's no option for me to adjust resolution ?02:46
ArwenRussian, if that doesn't work, just start beryl directly with "beryl --replace &" and "emerald --repalce &"02:47
necro_i can't change resolution in kde?02:47
DaSkreech!resolution02:47
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:47
DaSkreechnecro_: yeah you can02:47
Russiannow I see it =D02:47
Russianthank you02:47
Bllzyintelike, i just checked the fstab and there was a comma... so that doesn't appear to be the error02:47
darkrift411question02:47
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RussianOke, I finaly see the icon, now what?02:48
DaSkreechnecro_: system settings -> display02:48
darkrift411how do i find out if there are newer drivers for my card reader?02:48
darkrift411Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 is the model02:48
torchwood04Is there anything I should know before using Kubuntu on an intel mac?02:48
DaSkreech!mac02:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
DaSkreech!apple02:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
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DaSkreechguess not :)02:48
PhinnFort!botsnack02:48
Arwensee? the bot discriminates02:48
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:48
torchwood04lol02:49
PhinnForttorchwood04: it will work well?02:49
torchwood04Yeah okay :P02:49
PhinnForttorchwood04: read the last edition of the full circle magazine02:49
Arwen!mac is For help with Macs and OS X, please see ##mac or your nearest mental institute.02:49
DaSkreechArwen: :-P thats not right02:49
torchwood04But #mac is for Macs with OSX02:49
DaSkreechKubuntu runs on macs02:49
torchwood04Hey, I'm an intel mac02:49
torchwood04Not PPC02:49
darkrift411http://pastebin.ca/59805502:50
darkrift411anyone?02:50
DaSkreechtorchwood04: a few devs run on that hardware I don't know if yyou need some thing special02:50
torchwood04Okay02:51
torchwood04Well, Mac's have picky firmware02:51
torchwood04IIRC, I can only have like 4 partitions02:51
PhinnForttorchwood04: again, the last edition of the full circle magazine has a long article on the subject02:51
torchwood04And I want to dual boot.. sorry PhinnFort I will02:51
Arwentorchwood04, all x86 systems can have a maximum of 4 partitions..02:51
PhinnFort"* How-To : Install Ubuntu on Intel Mac Mini,"02:51
darkrift4114 primary, right?02:51
torchwood04Yeah02:51
DaSkreechprimary02:51
PhinnForthttp://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/02:51
darkrift411ok02:51
torchwood04And I want to use OSX02:52
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darkrift411you can have extended partitions added to that though02:52
russianCrash lol02:52
BluesKajstrange combo02:52
darkrift411so does anyone know where i could find drivers for my ricoh card reader in my laptop?02:52
russianHow do I start the beryl automatically?02:52
Arwenwith an autostart02:53
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PhinnFortrussian: copy the link to beryl manager from the k-menu to the hidden ".kde/Autostart" folder02:53
PhinnFortin your homedir02:53
PhinnFortRussian: drag it from the k-menu02:53
RussianYeah, but first I need to figure out how to find the hidden folder :P02:54
torchwood04Thanks PhinnFort02:54
PhinnFortRussian: go to your home dir in konqueror02:54
PhinnFortshow hidden files02:54
PhinnForttorchwood04: yw;)02:54
torchwood04:)02:54
Russiank02:55
Russiandone02:55
Russianautostart02:55
Russiank see it =D02:55
Russiantnx02:55
necro_how do i turn kde in ubuntu to chinese02:56
DaSkreech!cn02:56
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:56
DaSkreechguess that wouldn't help02:56
DaSkreechno #kubuntu-cn02:56
RussianPhinnFort, how do you split the screens, like if you have a lto of things open, so they get organized in yoru screen>?02:57
PhinnFortRussian: have no idea...02:57
PhinnForttry asking in #beryl02:57
PhinnFortmaybe02:57
Russiank ^^02:57
necro_now, how do i mount ntfs on hdb102:57
Russianty02:57
Russianbtw can I put this channel on 1 desktop and another on another desktop?02:58
necro_where does ubuntu mount my ntfs?02:58
DaSkreechnecro_: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /path/to/folder02:58
TeraDyne!ntfs | necro_02:58
ubotunecro_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:58
heroRussian: it depends on your irc client02:58
RussianI use02:59
RussianKonversation02:59
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heroi think you can detach a window02:59
RussianBeryl, do you maybe know how I can arrange all windows with some shortcut?02:59
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Russiansorry I mean hero02:59
torchwood04Do I need a swap partition?03:00
heroone sec03:00
Russianoke :)03:00
DaSkreechtorchwood04: no03:00
torchwood04Because the way OSX does it is: 1 partition-OSX, 1-Kubuntu, 1-EFI, 1-Root03:00
torchwood04I mean mac*03:00
heroRussian: well, i'm new to using konversation and i can't find a detach function anywhere, i know x-chat has it.  you might try #konversation03:00
Russianoke thank you :)03:01
necro_so i cannot use mplayer audio output when im using amarok playing mp3?03:01
BllzI still can't mount my FAT partition!  can anybody help me?03:01
DaSkreechBllz: What is the error?03:01
Russianhero I have some questions, I am new to linux03:01
Russiando you need some antivirus or something?03:01
Arwennecro_, you must use -ao alsa03:01
BllzDaSkreech, i have absolutely no idea03:01
Bllzand i looked at that ubuntu help site and i don't think that helped at all03:01
DaSkreechBllz: ha ha how are you mounting it?03:01
heroRussian: not really. virii work differently in linux.03:01
DaSkreech!virus03:02
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:02
Russianso I am safe?03:02
heroyeah, what the bot said03:02
BllzDaSkreech, if only i knew... it should mount automatically, right?  I tried a manual mount too but that failed03:02
ArwenRussian, relatively03:02
Arwenthe honest answer is that AV is useless regardless of what OS you have03:02
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heroDaSkreech: is there a complete list of the things ubotu knows about?03:02
Bllzand someone was helping me earlier but he went MIA now lol03:02
necro_Opening video decoder: [realvid]  RealVideo decoder03:02
necro_Error: /usr/lib/win32/drv4.so.6.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:02
Arwennecro_, lol @ realvideo, you fail it03:03
DaSkreechhero:  sure message him03:03
necro_yes03:03
RussianArwen so I dont need any protection?03:03
DaSkreechor her03:03
DaSkreechor it03:03
Russianand Conqueror is safe to browse?03:03
Arwenthat said, you need w32codecs, see !medibuntu03:03
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necro_how do i install this codecs03:03
ArwenRussian, yeah03:03
Russiandont need mozilla?03:03
Russiansweet03:03
necro_!mediabuntu03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
RussianAll passwords and stuff are safe too?03:03
Arwen..03:03
Arwen!medibuntu | necro_03:03
ubotunecro_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org03:03
DaSkreech!kwallet03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
heroRussian: i encourage you to visit www.tldp.org - the linux documentation project03:04
DaSkreech!info kwallet03:04
ubotuPackage kwallet does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:04
heroread some articles03:04
Russiank ty03:04
DaSkreechand hang out here Russian03:04
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BllzDaSkreech, do you have any idea what could be wrong with my partition?  It's driving me up the wall...03:04
necro_does this mean i cannot play rmvb with mplayer?03:04
Arwennecro_, you can, just follow the link...03:05
Arwenand also, RMVB SUCKS ASS03:05
Russianaye =)03:05
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DaSkreechBllz: what is the device name?03:07
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necro_this ubuntu is so different from netbsd03:10
DaSkreech;-)03:11
DaSkreechlinux is not unix03:11
torchwood04DUH?03:11
torchwood04:P03:11
DaSkreechmore like an annoying little brother03:11
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ArwenLUNIX!03:11
necro_there are alot modification to original linux03:12
torchwood04Unux!03:12
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herothe "original" linux is just a kernel, man.03:12
torchwood04Linix!03:12
necro_that is true03:12
Arwenhero, Linux is still just a kernel03:13
heroArwen: yep03:13
DaSkreechWinux03:13
Arwen(hint: Windows doesn't "suck")03:13
DaSkreechthe first product that microsoft makes that doesn't suck will be a vacum cleaner03:13
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DaSkreechWhich isn't totally true03:13
necro_really, how about microsoft office?03:14
ArwenDaSkreech, you know, fanboism and trolling like that only makes people hate F/OSS people03:14
necro_does microsoft street and trips suck?03:14
DaSkreechnecro_: :-) No I love Microsoft tech03:14
Arwenand Windows is pretty solid. Active Directory and .NET are cool too. and MSVS rules.03:14
DaSkreech I hate the business practices03:14
Arwen(Microsoft Bob rules too)03:14
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DaSkreechif they were a little more humble and not so attention hogging I'd like them a lot more03:14
necro_i've been using street and trips with gps03:15
ArwenDaSkreech, but but but... they invented MS Bob, lol03:15
necro_what's street and trips equivalent in kubuntu?03:15
necro_if any03:16
DaSkreechDon't know. never checked actually03:16
Arwenwhat's street and trips anyway?03:16
necro_how many years have you used computer03:17
Arwenuh.. not that many, why?03:17
heroit's a microsoft product, arwen03:17
herohelps you get places03:17
Arwenyes.. what's it do?03:17
herogreat for taxi drivers!03:17
Arwenoh, lol03:17
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necro_taxi driver is very familiar with routes, stupid03:17
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TeraDyneI've been using computers since 92\93, and I didn't know what MS Streets and Trips was.03:17
heroyou don't have to call names.  and actually, my gf is a taxi supervisor and they use streets and trips extensively03:18
DaSkreechI heard that it was good but I've never had reason to use it03:18
ArwenTeraDyne, same03:18
DaSkreech Does it have roads in barbados?03:18
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heroit's better than a lot of gps built-in maps03:18
necro_taxi drivers in your country sucks03:18
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necro_im in china, all taxi drivers are live street and trips03:18
Arwennecro_, warezed copies of it no less03:18
necro_they are familiar with every streets, otherwise passengers get mad at them03:19
Arwenthen there would be a big kung-fu fight!03:19
necro_i tell the taxi driver the destination if he doesn't know, i get off right away03:19
heronecro_: you have poor manners.03:19
necro_taxi drivers does NOT use street and trips if he is qualified. period.03:20
heroit depends on the management of the taxi company03:20
necro_maybe small streets, he doens't know. that's allowed03:20
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necro_but for major locations such as ministry of transportation, movie theatre03:21
herowell, yeah.03:21
herothat's a given, necro_03:21
necro_im supposed to tell him the the name, and he takes me there, no bullcrap03:21
Arwenunless it's a mafia taxi03:21
necro_haha03:22
necro_this reminds me03:22
necro_there was this mafia taxi driver03:22
necro_he drove taxi back to his home town03:22
Russianthanks for ya help guys, goodnight :)03:22
heroRussian: good luck!03:22
necro_and taxi company couldn't find him anywhere, haha03:22
herodon't give up!03:22
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necro_but what frustrate me is prostitude03:23
Arwenprostitude?03:23
necro_especially when they give me ugly ones03:23
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heroprostitute03:23
Arwenis that like a combination of prostitute and attitude?03:23
necro_if she's ugly i tell her to get out and give me a good looking one03:24
Arwen....03:24
Arwen!offtopic03:24
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:24
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Mr_Sonomacould i get some help with a beryl issue?03:25
Evolution2i cant seem to access my windows partition from my kubuntu03:25
Evolution2any ideas?03:25
Arwen!ntfs | Entonian03:25
ubotuEntonian: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:25
Arwen...03:25
ArwenEvolution2, see above03:25
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DaSkreechNight03:25
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shane2perudoes anyone remember the grub install command?03:26
necro_yes03:26
herosudo apt-get install grub ?03:26
necro_grub-install?03:26
shane2peruno inside the grub  should be install hd0,0 ?  but it doesn't like that option.03:27
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necro_it's like asking for the command to execute mount03:27
shane2peruright, sorry for not being specific03:27
necro_hey what is that command to execute mount? i don't remember03:27
lucas__Hey, i new in kubuntu, can someoena help me please, i have a question03:28
HymnToLifelucas__, if you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you03:28
lucas__ok, thanks, il try, i not good at english03:29
Arwennecro_, "mount"03:29
shane2perudoes anyone remember that command?  specifically the string that is supposed to follow, I need an example for inside grub install (hd0,0)03:29
necro_oh yeah! thanks03:29
shane2perujust the correct string format for the install command is what I need.03:29
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lucas__i have downloaded the iso for feisty fawn, and i burned it correctly, but when i start it before i choose the language and go to installation something happend, i can tell you exactly what, but is something related to "fail ata 3.0" can someone help me, please?03:30
necro_huge error, lucas__03:31
lucas__really? how can i fix it?03:31
necro_i have not seen it03:31
necro_your hard drive is sata?03:32
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lucas__yes, both of them03:32
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necro_it should work03:32
necro_try choose different language?03:33
bryanhi guys03:33
lucas__il try03:33
necro_i don't think it's language03:33
necro_actually03:33
bryanhow do i get my xternal drive to show up03:34
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lucas__it has happened before with ubuntu 6, the only ubuntu i can install normally is uberyl, do you know why is that?03:34
bryanany one?03:35
trakinasbryan: it is usb? is it formated in which kind of file system?03:35
bryanusb ntsf something like that03:36
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necro_how do i get those software in medibuntu?03:36
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necro_i have updated repository03:36
trakinasbryan: see if it is being detected "dmesg in konsole"03:36
necro_apt-get install realplay does not work03:36
lucas__are you talking to me necro?03:36
necro_no lucas__03:36
albino_a03:36
lucas__ohh03:37
trakinasnecro_: get its names and look for them.03:37
trakinashehe03:37
bryanit sees it it just won't let my open it03:37
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necro_i tried sudo apt-get install realplay03:37
trakinasi used to use real in mplayer, without realplayer.03:37
necro_does not find the package03:37
trakinasnecro_: realplayer, btw.03:37
necro_trakinas: how do you get that mplayer installed?03:37
necro_i want to play rmvb with mplayer too03:37
necro_but for somereason my mplayer does not install win32 codecs03:38
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trakinasnecro_: long and painfull path. ive did it in gentoo, anyway. never did on *ubuntu.03:38
albino_italian?03:38
necro_oh damn03:38
trakinasIm kind of busy and cant really help you. sorry03:39
necro_it's very easy in other *nix or bsd03:39
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necro_trakinas: so what do you suggest me to get real video to play in kubuntu03:39
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trakinaswhile you cant install mplayer compatibility, try realplayer official binary.03:39
necro_can i apt-get install realplayer?03:40
trakinasnot sure.03:40
necro_maybe i should ask *ubuntu, this channel looks very dead03:40
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vzduch!info realplay03:41
ubotuPackage realplay does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:41
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Arwen!info helix03:41
vzduch?03:41
vzduchp   realplay                                                                          - RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.03:41
ubotuPackage helix does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:42
Arwen...03:42
vzduchnecro_: perhaps add medibuntu repos, should be in there03:42
necro_i did add thos repos03:43
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necro_but don't know what package should i install03:43
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vzduchrealplay03:43
necro_cannot find package realplay03:44
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vzduchah, there we go.. it's in the automatix repo03:46
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vzduchnote that you need not install automatix to get it03:46
vzduchjust add the repo03:46
Arwen....................03:46
Arwen......................03:46
rosshello03:46
ArwenMEDIBUNTU, geez03:46
vzduchArwen: 'apt-cache showpkg realplay' says it's in the automatix repo03:47
Arwenoh, realplay... just use w32codecs... real player sucks03:47
Evolution2i cant find my windows partition..any ideas?03:47
necro_how do i "use" w32codecs03:48
Arwennecro_, you just install it.....03:48
necro_when i use mplayer says no coecs03:48
necro_how ?03:48
Arwenthen use mplayer filethatneedsit03:48
Arwen..........................................03:48
rossI cant get Ubuntu to accept my printer any ideas03:48
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necro_headache03:48
necro_how do i install w32codecs in kubundu03:48
vzduchnecro_: aptitude install w32codecs03:48
necro_so after installing that w32codecs i can play rmvb?03:49
necro_in mplayer?03:50
Arwenyes, so go read the instructions and do it already!03:50
necro_can' t now, it'sinstalling vlc03:50
necro_i can't launch another apt-get can i?03:50
Arwen..........VLC definitely can't play real03:50
Arwenand again, RMVB SUCKS03:50
necro_should icancel?03:50
Arwengo fer it?03:50
necro_hehe03:51
trakinasilike vlc03:51
vzduchgopher it? :D03:51
necro_rmvb is not software, it's a format03:51
Arwennecro_, yes, and it sucks03:51
necro_you are saying like, doc sucks! .txt is better!03:51
trakinas=P03:51
vzduchnecro_: it suxx0rs bad anyway03:51
Arwenand uh... .doc is kinda lame03:51
Arwen.docx is a lot more sane03:51
necro_or, mp3 sucks, .wav has better sound!03:51
Arwenand mp3 sucks too..... aac/vorbis please03:51
trakinasogg owns03:51
trakinasheeheheh03:52
vzduchAAC?03:52
Arwentrakinas, you can't compare ogg to mp3... mp3 is a codec, ogg is a container03:52
vzduchisn't open-source, is it? ;)03:52
Arwenthat's like saying "AVI is better than XviD!"03:52
trakinasArwen: you got what i meant, didnt you?03:52
Arwenvzduch, um... yes it is, it's completely open.03:52
Arwennow, it's not patent free, but that's another issue03:52
trakinasArwen: you know when i saied ogg i meant "mymusic.ogg is better then yourmusic.mp3"03:53
necro_.gif sucks! i much prefer .jpg03:53
trakinaspng > both03:53
Arwentrakinas, but mymusic.ogg could be encoded with mp3, so I don't understand03:53
trakinasthis is getting lame03:53
Arwenand .gif definitely sucks03:53
Arwenlol, ignore time03:53
trakinasArwen: yes you do.03:53
rossanyone from New Zealand03:53
trakinaswhy would someone encode an ogg with mp3 codec?03:54
Arwentrakinas, because raw mp3 files are kinda lame?03:54
trakinaswhen you say mymusic.ogg you basicaly say my vorbis encoded song.03:54
Arwenit could also be flac or speex...03:54
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trakinasArwen: gosh...03:54
trakinasenough with this03:54
Arwentrakinas, we could resolve this just by saying "vorbis" like it should be.... anyway, back on track...03:55
trakinasArwen: ok. I suck.03:55
Arwen......03:55
Arwenno straw men please03:55
trakinasArwen: no nothing here. oO03:55
metbsdwhat package include all windows fonts03:55
Arwenmetbsd, all? none. For the core ones, that's msttcorefonts03:56
metbsdif i make a package has windows fonts, and publish to kubuntu, do i offend copyright law?03:56
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Arwenyes03:56
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necro_of course metbsd03:56
trakinasso, what are those core fonts?03:57
Arwencopies of some MS fonts03:57
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vzduchArwen: not copies, they _are_ M$ fonts03:57
Arwenarial, comic web sans, times new roman, etc03:57
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bryancan't find wine program.  It said the is installed on the add programs03:57
Arwenvzduch, that's what makes them copies03:57
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necro_hmmm03:57
bryanhow can i find it?03:57
Arwenbryan, you run it like this "wine file.exe"03:57
necro_why is mplayer trying to use joystick?03:57
Arwennecro_, it's just checking for available inputs03:58
trakinasarent those fonts violating anything?03:58
Arwenyes, they're copyrighted and shiat03:58
necro_no03:58
trakinasso they are harmless and can be free in free beer distributed?03:59
necro_Joystick: warning init event, we have lost sync with driver.3.8% 1087003:59
ArwenI think so, but you can't repackage, etc etc03:59
necro_No bind found for key 'JOY_AXIS2_PLUS'.-JOY_LEFT03:59
trakinashm.03:59
bryanthanx Arwin03:59
necro_i have this continuously03:59
vzduchAndale Sans, Arial, Comic Sans MS, Courier New, Georgia, Impact, Times New Roman, Trebuchet MS, Verdana and Webdings03:59
trakinasi dont use them, anyways.03:59
necro_Joystick: warning init event, we have lost sync with driver.3.8% 1078 003:59
vzduchanyways, good night @ *04:00
necro_i have to use -nojoystick option04:00
trakinascheers04:00
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khaije1-bbWhat is everyones preference for 'remote desktop'-type functionality? NX? Ssh -X ? RDP? VNC?04:06
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Arwenkhaije1-bb, bah, I just call up a slave and make him do it for me04:07
khaije1-bbenlightening... Thx arwen :-P04:08
Arwenthat said, nx is pretty cool :-)04:08
khaije1-bbis that what u use?04:09
Arwennah, I only have 1 PC04:09
khaije1-bbI'd like to check on gui apps remotely. Does nx permit connecting to existing local sessions non-destructively?04:10
Arwenno idea04:11
ArwenI just know it's fast, lol04:11
khaije1-bbdespite lots of good options there doesn't seem to be any 'great' options :-(04:11
Arwenhehe, slaves then? :-P04:12
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trakinasit isnt an elf, for sure04:14
Arwenwe're all lazy white males in our mommy's basements aren't we?04:15
dewitthi every one04:15
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jriachihello dewitt04:16
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draikI finally figured out how to remote into my fiance's computer04:17
draikThank you all for your help04:17
draikklobster: Thanks for all the help04:17
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Evolution2can someone help me mount my windows partition because i cant find it04:22
osamabinladenEvolution2, um, what do you mean can't find it? which partition on your hard drive is it? first? second? third?04:23
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Evolution2sda204:25
osamabinladenso... why doesn't "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/blah" work?04:25
Evolution2i dont think its mounted04:25
Evolution2do i need to sudo that?04:25
trakinasEvolution2: yep.04:25
khaije1-bbosamabinladen: why do you use that name?04:26
Evolution2blah?04:26
osamabinladenEvolution2, replace blah with anything04:26
osamabinladenkhaije1-bb, because it's offensive04:26
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khaije1-bbI'm not objecting, just curious04:27
Evolution2it would be sda2?04:27
anon32well, it's just the target of your mount, it can be anything04:27
anon32the /dev/sda2 is important though04:27
jriachianon32: 2 black helicopters are moving to your possition, please keep online. thank you04:28
anon32lol04:28
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Evolution2it give me this "mount: mount point /mnt/xp does not exist"04:28
anon32so make it04:28
anon32"mkdir blah"04:28
Evolution2iam trying iam just not good at commands04:28
Evolution2so mkdir mount04:29
trakinasEvolution2: mkdir /mnt/xp04:29
Evolution2ok04:29
trakinasno04:29
bryanusing gdesklets but i can't get weather info04:29
Evolution2ok i did it04:30
bryanit says fail only04:30
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bryando you guy know of abetter desklet?04:30
Evolution2trakinas: i did it04:31
Evolution2trakinas: i still dont see anything when i go into sda204:31
trakinasnot sda204:32
trakinas /mnt/xp04:32
trakinasbryan: adesklet in my fav04:32
trakinasbryan: then you go to adesklet.sourceforge.net and download the desklets you wish04:33
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anon32slightly offtopic, but anyone know what the "D" in BDSM stands for?04:35
bryantrakinas- ez way to install?04:35
anon32drugs?04:35
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trakinasbryan: sure. you can install adesklets via apt-get or adept.04:37
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trakinasthe desklets you just have to run them one single time and add it to your list of desklets04:37
bryanI did :sudo apt-get install adesklets  worked04:38
bryannow ?04:38
trakinasbryan: you can go to adesklets web page to download the deskelets.04:38
trakinasafter that, you just have to read their instructions. all them comes with instructions. ;] 04:38
bryanhow come i can't see adesklets?04:39
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trakinasbryan: you wont cause it only loads your installes desklets04:41
trakinasyou must, for example, install weather 1st04:41
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cavemenhi04:42
trakinasbryan: http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/doc/en/04:42
cavemenwhy is Konq opening my downloads with Fucking KATE, I am trying to download Frostwire and it uses goddam KATE04:42
trakinashe left...04:42
trakinascavemen: frostwire is???04:43
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cavementrakinas: I am trying to download Frostwire from Froswire webpage and is being opened with KATE04:44
cavemenKATE opens the deb04:44
dr_willisuse 'save as' for the link.04:44
cavemenand then it tells me the save data will be Corrupted04:44
cavemendr_willis: IT WONT WORK!! 'cause is php link04:44
cavemenit dowloads a picture as "save as"04:45
godlkwrththe page doesn't send correct mimetype probably04:45
dr_williscavemen,  odd.. worked for me the other day.. Hmm. let me try it04:45
dr_willis!frostwire04:45
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:45
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dr_willisI just did a 'save as' and renamed the filename it suggested to frostwire.deb04:46
dr_willislets see if that worked.04:46
dr_willisyep - that worked.04:47
cavemendr_willis: oh I see04:47
dr_willisyea it gives it a name of 'start' it seems :) for some odd reason when ya save as.04:48
cavemenTHIS WHAT IA M TALKINGAHBOUT The file http://www3.frostwire.com/frostwire/90627762/frostwire-4.13.1.7.i586.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.04:48
cavemenis that shit retarded?04:48
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dr_williscavemen,  i cancled that download. right clicked on the   Start Your Download Now   Link, and did save as.04:48
dr_willisrenamed it from 'save' to frostwire.deb and it downloaded fine.04:49
Arwen..04:49
dr_willisyou COULD also try04:49
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dr_williswget http://www3.frostwire.com/frostwire/90627762/frostwire-4.13.1.7.i586.deb04:49
dr_willisLength: 7,131,654 (6.8M) [text/plain] 04:49
dr_willislooks like the server mime types is set wrongly04:49
Arwenah04:49
cavemendr_willis: I am doing what you did. But still the fact that Konq is that stupid is just a colossal software glitch04:50
dr_willisthat wget command is also working for me.04:50
dr_williscavemen,  its NOT konq thats being stupid.04:50
Arwencavemen, the server is broken, it's telling konq that it's a text file04:50
dr_willisKonqueror was at least smart enough to give ya some sort of warning. :) well kate did.04:51
cavemenoh, ok I retract my vitriolic rant04:51
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cavemenok thank you ppl, it worked on an amd6404:54
cavemenHOT!!!04:54
dr_willisI have an amd64, and a Turion, and a Anthlon. :)04:55
xsachahi.. i notice this error after i close a GUI window. /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/domino.so could not be unloaded              -- is this bad or i can ignore? what can i do to prevent this?04:55
dr_willisbut i run 32bit disrtos on them all.04:55
xsachai have installed the domino window styles by the way04:55
jriachidoes   /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/domino.so file  exist?04:55
xsachai also get an error before that:    /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase04:55
xsachayes, that file exists04:56
cavemendr_willis: ok, now you are makig me jealous04:56
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dr_williscavemen,  untill you relize that a $350 laptop i got for my wife is faster then my best machine. :)04:56
jriachixsacha: how did you installed domino? (./configure / .deb / ...)04:56
xsachais this just because my window style was compiled against a different qt?04:57
xsachai installed from a .deb made for kubuntu04:57
cavemendr_willis: well, using cli on it?04:57
xsacha(but a different version of kubuntu no doubt)04:57
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thoweI think there is something very wrong with the ruby package fo feisty...  gems and irb give me errors about not being able to load files.04:57
Arwenhey guys, would DRM be ok if it were open source?04:57
thoweno04:57
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xsachaArwen: but it wouldnt work..?04:57
Arwenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_DReaM <-- Sun is making one04:58
jriachixsacha: i'd recommend you trying the ./configure , make , make install way (i can help you if you have any problem)04:58
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xsachaok, but is the error serious? is it leaking memory or something? safe to ignore?04:59
xsachai assume this is happening for all windows i open04:59
BluesKajhehe , Arwen just try vista ..DRM is driving everyone nuts including ppl who just want to make home dvd movies out of their home videos ...it's asell out to hollywood05:00
ArwenVista? DRM? where?05:00
BluesKajhence the rise of linux05:01
Arwenactually, Linux isn't rising...05:01
BluesKajwell, kubuntu anyway05:01
xsacharising down..05:01
xsachawhichever OS has the least people on it - i'm there05:01
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jriachixsacha: i guess there is no problem, but you are loosing the domino decorations :)05:02
BluesKajyou guys are bound and determined to be an elitist minority aren't you  :)05:02
ArwenLFS!05:02
trakinasxsacha: go for hurd then05:02
Arwen!lfs05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
Arwen....stupid bot05:02
thoweI see a lot more use of free OSes now than I ever have before.  I have more *BSD and Linux in our colo center than ever before.  I also know 5 different people who are running ubuntu now who had never even tried it a year ago.05:03
xsachalooking for linux from scratch?05:03
Arwenyeh05:03
jriachi!jriachix05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jriachix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
xsachai like CRUX better than lfs05:03
jriachiubotu: you don't know about jriachix, the best unix? 05:03
jriachi:p05:03
thoweBut the fact that Ruby/irb/gems would not work on Feisty today is driving me nuts.05:03
BluesKaj!elitist05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about elitist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
xsacha!food05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
BluesKajthought so :)05:04
xsacha!sleep05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
Arwen!botsnack05:04
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!05:04
hero!abuse05:04
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:04
hitmanWillya stage one gentoo install gives about the same benefits as a lfs install, with a few less headaches05:04
heroer.05:04
BluesKajsacktime for me .... nite all , take care :)05:05
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CrunchyFerrettBroadcom BCM4318 Wireless card wont detect any wireless networks. Any thoughts?05:06
hitmanWilly!wireless | CrunchyFerrett05:07
ubotuCrunchyFerrett: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:07
CrunchyFerrett...05:07
hitmanWillyCrunchyFerrett: you may need to run it under ndiswrapper for it to work05:07
CrunchyFerrettndiswrapper.... *googles*05:08
damageDOneHey all. I am having trouble with amarok and submitting tracks to last.fm. It was working fine for a while but now it just keeps telling me it has failed to submit certain tracks. I figured it was because some tracks I played weren't tagged properly so I found that there is a submit.xml file that contains the details of the tracks that are to be submitted and I removed all the track info from it. That didn't help either. Any ideas?05:08
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hitmanWillyCrunchyFerrett: broadcom cards are notorious05:08
jriachidamageDOne: are the .mp3 correctly tagged?  (amarok won't send "track 1 -unknown artist"-like to last.fm :) )05:09
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damageDOnejriachi: I think that was the problem initially but now it's not submitting anything at all.05:10
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damageDOne jriachi: At first I tried removing the problematic tracks from the submit.xml file. But then it gave me problems with other tracks. Eventually I removed all of the tracks from submit.xml.05:11
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bryanhow do iget my xbox 360 controller to work on kubuntu?05:11
trakinasbryan: is it usb?05:12
jriachidamageDOne: then i have no idea, maybe the submit.xml is damaged and deleting will work or something (I don't know, and maybe this can corrupt you amarok settings :S:S)05:12
bryanyes05:12
damageDOne jriachi: I tried deleting it too. It just got recreated with the same track in it that was causing the problem.05:12
hitmanWillybryan: should work as a normal joystick/gamepad then05:13
jriachidamageDOne: then i have no idea , sorry05:13
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damageDOne jriachi: Thanks anyway05:13
bryani don't see the little light on05:14
trakinasdmesg | grep joystick05:14
trakinasbryan: last msg was to you05:14
jriachidamageDOne: but i think that your computer is damaged, the failure in submit.xml denotes a malfunction with a high probability of explosion. please turn off the computer and give it to the fedex i am sending you05:14
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hitmanWillyjriachi: that's just wrong :P05:15
bryantrakinas- nothing happens05:15
trakinasbryan: just dmesg then05:15
damageDOne jriachi: Sure. I'll do that.05:15
damageDOne jriachi: I wouldn't want to get hurt when it explodes05:16
jriachihitmanWilly: if you don't say anything, i'll give you the hard disk as soon as i receive damageDOne's Pc.05:16
jriachidamageDOne: you are a wise man, indeed05:16
bryanthen ?05:16
trakinasbryan: see if it apears on the list. =P05:17
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trakinasbryan: it will be on the last lines, btw05:17
bryanit show new divice no name xbox36005:18
trakinashmmm05:18
hitmanWillybryan: can you pastebin it?05:18
trakinasbryan: have you tried it in some emulator or anything?05:19
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jriachihitmanWilly: but i have heard that you can't have two hard disks in the same room, so i am sending you a fedex guy. Give him your current hard disk and tomorrow i'll send you damageDOne's , so there is no chance to get 2 disks in the same room05:19
bryan100.288673]  usb 1-7: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 305:19
bryan2100.506489]  usb 1-7: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice05:19
hitmanWillyjriachi: oh noes!! ive got five in this room right now!05:20
hitmanWillylol05:20
bryantranikas- no emulater. How would i do that05:20
jriachihitmanWilly: you are in great danger... don't wait for the fedex guy... go yourself to the postal office now! (don't worry, postal office doesn't count as room, so you can send me the five disks in the same parcel)05:21
trakinasbryan: I mean, in zsnes or other game app.05:21
hitmanWillyjriachi: goodness, i think you just saved me right there...05:22
trakinasbryan: btw, paste bin is coping and paste a test in some pastebin site, like this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:22
damageDOneMan this must be a slow day on the kubuntu channel. Glad to see you haven't gone mad with boredom. :)05:22
bryanthax on the paste bin info05:23
jriachihitmanWilly: don't worry, kubuntu users must protect among ourselves. :)05:24
jriachi(between?)05:24
trakinasbryan: so, if you can paste your last msgs of dmesg there, we would apreciate. start with usb 1-3: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address and goto the last msg05:25
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bryanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28023/plain/05:28
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trakinasbryan: hmmmm05:29
trakinasmy joypad is a generuc ps2-usb...05:29
trakinashere: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28025/05:31
dewitt? curious to know why. i used ubuntu, kubuntu 606. dsl was very slow. now i am using kubuntu 704 and dsl is fast.05:32
dr_willisdewitt,  could be the cable/dsl company speed it up :)05:33
hitmanWillydewitt: probably an ipv6 issue05:33
MinatakuHeya, dr_willis :D05:33
MinatakuCheck this out05:33
trakinasdr_willis: i know that our local cable provider blocks linux machines. they down your speed to 56k...05:33
Minatakuhttp://pastebin.ca/597747 << :D05:33
Minatakutrakinas: WHAT!?05:33
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trakinasMinataku: yep05:34
MinatakuThat's definitely illegal05:34
dr_willistrakinas,  id like to know how they know a machine is a linux machine..05:34
trakinasthey argument is "you can build a server with linux"05:34
trakinasdr_willis: ping and get its name.05:34
dr_willistrakinas,   Huh? Ping?05:34
trakinasi dont know05:34
Biovoreyou can make linux look like a windows box :-P05:34
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MinatakuI do too05:35
trakinasi know there's smth your operating system answers05:35
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dr_willisGet that satement in writing.. take it to your lawyer. :) sue.05:35
trakinaslike, linux has a number, win another and etc05:35
dr_willistrakinas,  thats not true.05:35
Minatakuhttp://pastebin.ca/597747 << dr_willis look :305:35
dr_williswhat if your box doesent respond to pings...  then ya get no #.05:35
trakinasand it isnt fud. my friend connections works great on xp, at full speed, and works really slow on kubuntu.05:35
bryantrakinas- found some info on it.  I need to know if i have automake1.9 installed?05:35
dr_willistrakinas,  thats not proof its the isp.05:35
trakinasdr_willis: it is.05:36
trakinaslike, he isnt the only one.05:36
trakinasdo you speak portuguese? =P05:36
trakinasi will send you links.05:36
hitmanWillytrakinas: they only numbers the isp should be able to get are maybe mac addresses of network hardware05:36
dr_willistrakinas,  No its not PROOF..05:36
MinatakuActually, there ARE IPv6-related speed issues05:36
dr_willisGee what if you use a Linksys router.. or some hardware based firewall.... oh well.. this is off topic.. have fun.05:36
Minatakudr_willis: Hey! Listen to me D:05:37
MinatakuXD05:37
dr_willisMinataku,  yep there are. :)05:37
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Minatakuhttp://pastebin.ca/597747 << Now look :305:37
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stone_anyone know how to install beryl on kubuntu?05:38
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bryanwich kubuntu05:38
stone_7.0405:38
stone_newest version05:38
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Arwen!beryl | stone_05:39
ubotustone_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:39
hitmanWillystone_: sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager05:39
bryango into the add n remove programs05:39
Arwenbut saying "beryl" and "latest version" is an oxymoron, beryl is dead05:39
stone_so use compiz or what?05:39
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Arwenyeh... but anyway, I need some sleep now05:39
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stone_thanks05:39
bryan trakinas- found some info on it.  I need to know if i have automake1.9 installed?05:40
stone_so, anyone know how to install compiz on kubuntu?05:40
ardchoille!compiz05:40
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:40
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dr_willisthen in 2 days you will be asking how to REMOVE compwiz.. :)05:41
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bryanhow too find out if automake 1.9 is installed on my system?05:41
dr_willisautomake --version05:41
dr_willisperhaps?05:41
Minatakudr_willis: So... still entertaining guests?05:41
dr_willisMinataku,  yep..05:42
dr_willisthey had a birthday party for her brother at a bar..wife is home drunk..05:42
stone_you guys don't like compiz or beryl?05:42
dr_willisNow shes sobbering up playing card games05:42
MinatakuHeh05:42
dr_willisstone_,  useless eye candy.05:42
MinatakuDrunk solitare X305:42
dr_willisand its verymuch a work in progress.05:42
bryanberyl game me too many issues05:42
stone_I'm extremely new to linux so I'm just trying to play around with it for now05:43
Minatakustone_: It's like Vista, only free, open source and marginally good05:43
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MinatakuIt's also only a GUI piece05:43
ardchoillecompiz and beryl are, IMHO, a useless waste of system resources05:43
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Did you see my SGI's specs?05:43
stone_I got beryl to work on ubuntu, but can't on kubuntu05:43
bryanany one  how too find out if automake 1.9 is installed on my system?05:43
hitmanWillyMinataku: ?...oh, that link earlier...05:43
hitmanWillybryan: did you install build-essential?05:44
dr_willisheh..05:44
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Yeah05:44
ardchoillebryan: apt-cache policy automake05:44
ardchoilleperhaps?05:44
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jriachii am using kubuntu, but when i run  compiz (compiz --replace -c emerald )  i get no window decoration (yep, emeral is installed) :S05:44
MinatakuHeh05:44
hitmanWillyMinataku: nah, never opened it...05:44
bryanhitmanwilly-no05:45
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MinatakuHeh05:45
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jriachidr_willis: the computer manufacturer or other sgi-thing?05:45
MinatakuToo bad you don't have a real-time preemptible kernel like I do05:45
hitmanWillybryan: then you don't have it, probably05:45
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hitmanWillyMinataku: how did you set that up?05:46
Minatakuhttp://pastebin.ca/597747 << Here's the transcribed and somewhat modified hinv outputs of my two machines :D05:46
MinatakuI had to get a serial adapter05:46
MinatakuThen I had to get a gender changer05:46
bryanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28028/05:46
MinatakuThen it worked fine05:46
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hitmanWillybryan: you need to install build-essential to get it then05:48
LectusHello! I just installed my old Ubuntu Dapper CD, but I'd like to install feisty. But when I try to install using the live CD it just hangs at 15% (detecting file systems). The same whith Kubuntu, but not with Xubuntu. It looks like a bug. Has anyone experienced this too?05:48
dr_willissounds like badly burnt cd's05:49
dr_willisYou could install xubuntu feisty, then install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop if you wanted to05:49
Lectusbut it was the CD that came from ship it and I also checked for CD errors at the startup05:49
Minatakudr_willis: I got a better idea... tell me when they're gonna leave, and I'll continue bothering you then XD05:49
Jahootyok, i got my wireless card working with ndiswrapper and all the related packages for my broadcom chipset, but i can't connect to my wireless network, any ideas?05:50
MinatakuUntil then I won't ask about my Amigas X305:50
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Jahootyi'm showing a 0/100 link quality and acess point: invalid05:51
MinatakuAre you too far away from it?05:51
MinatakuIs it named invalid?05:51
MinatakuDude... I should TOTALLY name my AP "Invalid"05:51
Jahootyno, that's what it's showing for the routers wireless mac adress05:52
MinatakuAh05:52
MinatakuStill, thanks for the idea all the same05:52
Jahootyit is a good one05:52
Jahootyd'oh05:52
MinatakuTry specifying the MAC address manually05:52
Jahootydid that, came back the same05:52
MinatakuHm05:52
Jahootyiwconfig eth1 ap ##:##:##:##05:53
Jahootyor whatever it s05:53
MinatakuDamn these Narrowcom chipsets05:53
Jahootyhowever long it is05:53
Jahootyi'm gonna try rebooting the router05:53
MinatakuNetworking I don't know much about >.<05:53
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jriachido you use compiz with kde?05:56
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morph_hello all05:56
morph_just wanted to know how to enable flash and java on firefox05:56
DaSkreechjriachi: No I don't thanks for asking05:56
dr_willis!java05:57
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:57
dr_willis!flash05:57
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:57
dr_willisFaq #4 and 5 I think.. Heh heh..05:57
morph_thanks05:57
dr_willissudo apt-get install  sun-java6-jre      (the sort form) :)05:57
morph_im on 7.1005:57
dr_willisflash.. i forget.05:57
jriachiDaSkreech: thanks for answering the survey.. a pen will be delivered to your address and a "thank-you" idem05:57
jriachi:p05:57
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DaSkreechmorph_: then you should really be asking #ubuntu=105:58
DaSkreechmorph_: then you should really be asking #ubuntu+105:58
morph_trying it now05:59
morph_sun 6 bin05:59
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bryanwhat does this mean: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' build-essential06:01
bryan-'uname -r' part06:01
DaSkreechbryan: it's a command06:03
DaSkreechbryan: type it by itself to see waht it does06:03
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bryanwhen I follow the steps to install my xbox360 contoller i get this error  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28029/06:05
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bryanhow would find out my kernel?06:07
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morph_lol just found the complete package06:08
Minatakubryan: Is it a normal wired controller?06:09
MinatakuPlay and charge doesn't work like that06:09
MinatakuAt least... I don't think it does06:09
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MinatakuNope06:10
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MinatakuIt only uses the P&C kit for power06:10
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MinatakuI just plugged it into my laptop and reconnected it to the 36006:10
Minatakulol06:10
Jahootyallright, what did i say last06:10
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bryanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40457706:11
MinatakuHm06:12
MinatakuThere's a little bit of data transfer, it seems06:13
MinatakuConnecting it directly to the 360 will also relink it immediately...06:13
MinatakuHrm...06:13
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CrunchyFerrettwell06:18
CrunchyFerrettI went through the official instructions.06:18
CrunchyFerrettStill no joy.06:18
CrunchyFerrettAny other ideas to get a bcm wireless card to work?06:18
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el_ismaHi. Does anybody have experience with Firestarter?06:23
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bryanhow to find out if my xbox360 controller is working06:24
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bryanhow to find out if my xbox360 controller is working06:28
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crazy_busI installed the xmltv-gui package but I can't seem to find it in either the commandline nor the menu's.  Does anyone know how to load it?06:30
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fede333333hola!06:32
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trakinascrazy_bus: tried on konsole : xml*tab* ??06:32
fede333333hi?06:32
fede333333cri cri..06:32
crazy_busyes Ive tried that.  But none of them seem to be the gui one06:32
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hitmanWillycrazy_bus: is it maybe a cmd line switch?06:33
hitmanWillyie xmltv --gui06:33
hitmanWillyor some such thing06:33
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crazy_busonly xml2po, xmlcatalog and xmllint come up.06:35
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kerncoI'm about to reinstall ubuntu.  I have a separate /home partition that I want to keep.  My question is, when it asks about my name, username, password, etc. do I give it my current information?  Will it replace my configuration files with the default ones when it installs?06:50
klobsterooh good question06:51
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Evolution2how can i completely remove wine?06:51
kernco"sudo aptitude remove wine" should do it06:52
jriachikernco: keep the username, the rest can be different06:52
kerncook, thanks06:52
klobsterjust to be safe, I made a my username user2, and then changed it after install06:52
klobsterjriachi: that won't overwrite?06:52
jriachiklobster: mmm... are you familiar with the fstab and mounting?06:53
kerncoWe're wondering about overwriting our existing config files with the defaults, not the partition06:53
klobsteryeah...06:53
jriachiklobster: then the idea would be like... create your new user (usernamed like the old one) but dont create a new partition for /home06:54
jriachithen delete the contents of your new /home (from the current installation)06:55
jriachiand mount the old home in this now-empty /home folder06:55
kerncoI see06:56
klobsterjriachi: yeah but during system install, you can specify your old partition as /home and direct it not to format.06:56
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klobsterif you did that and recreated an old user would it overwrite anything?06:56
jriachiklobster: mmm... i have no idea about how the installer works (i thought formating was obligatory, so you get the idea.. :) )06:57
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klobsterkernco: better make a backup of your user just in case06:57
cavemenhi06:58
jriachiklobster: same advice :)06:58
kerncoYeah, guess so06:58
cavemenhow do i move Wheather SuperKaramba around the screen?06:58
kerncoI think I'll try jriachi's idea.  Have it mount everything on my / partition, then delete the new user it creates and edit my fstab to mount my old /home partition06:59
klobsteror rename the original user2 and then create user on the new system, and then rm user and mv user2 to user...06:59
klobsterjriachi: yeah the same, really06:59
klobsterit's a smart move.06:59
Evolution2cavemen: you right click and click on toggle position06:59
cavemensuperkaramba Liquid Wheather is off screen and I can't drag it around not even using ALT+right click06:59
Evolution2cavemen: then you should be able to move it06:59
cavemenEvolution2: thanks lol07:00
Evolution2cavemen: close it07:00
Evolution2and reopen07:00
Evolution2whats the best torrent client for linux?07:01
josephwine + utorrent?07:02
jriachiEvolution2: i used to use the official , but many people loves ktorrent :)07:02
Evolution2no07:02
DaSkreechkernco: yeah07:02
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Evolution2yeah i like ktorrent to07:02
Evolution2but its too slow07:02
Evolution2i heard of qtorrent and rtorrent07:02
Evolution2are they good?07:03
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mo0osahAzureus > all07:03
Evolution2no07:03
Evolution2RAM hog07:03
DaSkreechkernco: just don't make it format your homepartiton and you should be good07:03
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mo0osahI got 2 gigs :)07:04
jriachi2?07:05
kerncoDell's coming out with a 4 gig laptop like the new powerbooks07:06
kerncoAnd it has the Ubuntu option :D07:06
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juliuskernco: that would mean 64bit only07:07
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juliusisnt linux support for 64bit a bit sketchy?07:07
morph_hello all07:07
juliusanyway, how can i set it up for double clicking to open files/folders!07:07
morph_lol was just going to ask that07:07
morph_safer to run 64 or 3207:08
morph_?07:08
DaSkreechkernco: 3207:08
DaSkreechmorph_: 3207:08
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morph_cool07:08
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morph_gonna install 32 7.04 then07:08
DaSkreechjulius: it's in system settings under mouse07:08
lyhellp07:08
morph_running 7.10 64 bit now07:08
lyhello07:08
DaSkreechmorph_: unless you don't care about flash then 6407:08
morph_yeah i want flash07:09
morph_what about 7.10 vs 7.0407:09
DaSkreechmorph_: then 32 bit is safer. You can do flash in 64 bit but it's tricker07:09
DaSkreechthere are a few scripts that can set it up for yuo07:10
julius64bit is only good for specific 64bit apps or systems with > 3gb memory07:10
morph_ahh i only have 2gb07:10
juliuswell its good on all memory sizes07:10
juliusbut 32bit is limited at 3gb07:11
juliusso if you needed say 4gb of memory then 64bit would be an idea07:11
morph_ok ill just use 32 for now untill i get use to linux a bit more07:11
klobsteris anyone running dapper in here?07:11
juliusstick with 32bit ;)07:11
morph_now to decide from efty of gutsy07:12
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morph_gonna try 7.1007:12
juliuswhy?07:14
juliusgo for feisty :p07:14
kernco7.10 isn't very stable at this point07:14
morph_err yeah just saw that07:14
morph_gonna do 7.0407:15
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morph_just like the Kubuntu Restricted Extras 507:16
kerncoMy Kubuntu 7.10 in unusable right now.  It might be a botched attempt at installing KDE 4, though07:17
morph_yeah ill go with 7.0407:17
morph_should run fine07:17
morph_gonna install now07:18
morph_i have th image already07:18
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juliusgl07:19
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DaSkreechkernco: Gutsy and KDE4? you have a pair there07:21
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kerncohaha, it didn't work at all07:21
DaSkreechseeing as how KDe4 won't even be ready when Gutsy is stable07:22
klobsterdaskreech: stop making me sad.07:23
kerncoIt's being released a week or two after07:23
DaSkreechyeah07:23
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kerncoI used to prefer Gnome, but they have no plans to make any significant improvements, so I've moved to KDE07:23
Evolution2how can i move some files into my windows partition because it wont let me do it. please help07:23
DaSkreechkernco: Why shoudl they?07:24
DaSkreechEvolution2: I'm assuming that Windows is NTFS?07:24
Evolution2yup07:24
juliusgrab ntfs3g07:24
juliussudo apt-get install ntfs-3g07:24
Evolution2ok07:24
juliusthen use ntfs-3g dev mount point07:25
DaSkreech!ntfs3g07:25
juliusotherwise using the old ntfs driver you will most likely fk your partition07:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:25
julius!ntfs-3g07:25
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions07:25
kerncodaskreech: Because new features have the same effect on me as crack07:25
DaSkreechkernco: Shoudl have fun then KDE4 probably won't stabilize till KDE 4.207:25
kerncoI'm most excited about amarok 207:27
kerncoWhich I know will run in Gnome07:27
DaSkreechand Windows07:27
kerncoyes07:28
jriachiamarok for the win!07:28
jriachi:p07:28
DaSkreechPlasma has me hyped right now but I think that NEPOMUK will be the real winnder07:28
DaSkreechWinner07:28
kerncowassat?07:28
Daisuke_Idoamarok on windows: brilliant plan or fatal mistake07:29
kerncomore like side-effect07:29
Evolution2julius: how do you  use ntfs-3g dev mount point?07:29
jriachifirefox: brilliant plan ; amarok: fatal mistake, imho07:29
juliusntfs-3g <device> <mount point>07:29
juliusgo to the private chat07:29
Daisuke_Idoscuse?07:30
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DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: yeah ditto07:31
kerncoFirefox came to windows when the only other option was internet explorer, but winamp and itunes has already displaced windows media player07:33
jriachii think that firefox in both windows and linux is a good thing, because when people move from windows to linux, they like to keep browsing the internet like always ... ; but for mp3 players... transition from winamp to amarok (let's say) is not traumatic and xmms is already here... so i guess that amarok gives reasons to windows people to stay at windows07:33
DaSkreechFirefox is a Windows app07:33
DaSkreechWINDOWS07:33
DaSkreechit happens to run on Linux07:34
juliusi found the transition from winamp to amarok hard07:34
juliusbut now i lurb it07:34
kerncoI do find it clunkier on linux07:34
juliusopera blows chunks on linux07:34
kerncoI think it works a lot better with qt than gtk07:34
DaSkreechonce I found Win + [ZXCVB]  I was good07:34
jriachiDaSkreech: i know, it runs much better in windows.. here i use konqueror for everything07:35
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kerncoI need my google toolbar, though07:35
DaSkreechI'm actually using the Netscape 9 now07:35
jriachibut the idea is that having xmms to ease the transition, amarok in windows is not needed (imho, of course)07:35
jriachinetscape 9??07:35
DaSkreechfeels nicer on Linux than firefox07:35
DaSkreechyeah07:35
DaSkreechwhodathunkit?07:36
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jriachinotmefcorse07:37
juliusEvolution2: can you hear me?\07:37
DaSkreechI haven't used any of the netscapey stuff. I should try those07:37
juliusi run windows in a vm for one thing07:38
juliusshockwave07:38
juliuslol07:38
DaSkreechIsn't shockwave just Flash now?07:39
klobsterits adoce now, I believe07:39
klobsteruhh, adobe07:39
juliuswhich archive manager would everyone reccomend07:41
DaSkreechark07:41
juliusi need one that integrates well with the desktop (drag + drop support)07:41
fignew_ark ;)07:41
juliusi cant drag + drop07:41
julius:(07:41
fignew_that's news07:41
fignew_your using KDE?07:42
juliusyep07:42
juliuswell i installed ubuntu then grabbed kde07:42
juliusso that might cause problems07:42
fignew_drag & drop from what program?07:42
fignew_doubt it07:42
juliuslike drag from ark to desktop say07:42
DaSkreechjulius: how did you install KDE?07:43
fignew_Just did it, no problem07:43
juliusdaSkreech: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:43
juliusi think07:43
DaSkreechkk07:43
juliuswhere are the drivers located in windows?07:43
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juliusi need to patch my xp setup for sata support07:43
DaSkreechjulius: where the hell they feel like07:43
DaSkreechyou can try %WINROOT%\system32\Drivers07:44
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juliusDaSkreech: done, lets see if it works :D rebooting07:45
juliushow do you register with the server?07:46
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DaSkreech!register07:48
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:48
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darkrift411anyone who can help me with a card reader driver?07:49
DaSkreechdarkrift411: FAIK drivers are mostly shipped with the kernel. you can check which kernel has the best support07:50
darkrift411damn07:50
DaSkreechdarkrift411: or you can compile your own driver07:51
darkrift411i think mine are screwed up07:51
darkrift411i get tons of errors and x crashes when writing to an sd card07:51
darkrift411and it corrupts the file system07:51
darkrift411but other devices can write to it (windows, pocket pc)07:51
darkrift411other devices and os's*07:51
darkrift411i tried fat 32 and 16, both fail07:51
darkrift411it wont even let me delete and create the partition with linux07:52
darkrift411!card reader07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about card reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
darkrift411lol07:52
DaSkreech:-)07:52
DaSkreechdarkrift411: do a google search for your card model and linux07:52
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DaSkreechor an internet search07:52
darkrift411didnt find anything usefull07:52
DaSkreechdarkrift411: no projects working on it07:53
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darkrift411Ricoh Co Ltd R5C82207:53
morph_woohoo07:53
darkrift411seems liek a popular model07:53
morph_all good now07:53
darkrift411but no workarounds that i can find07:53
DaSkreechwith no drivers? :)07:53
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darkrift411mine has drivers, but i think they are buggy07:54
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morph_73 updates on fresh install of 7.0407:55
DaSkreechdarkrift411: have you searched for the errors?07:56
darkrift411there are no specific errors07:56
darkrift411just read/write errors07:56
darkrift411and crashes07:56
DaSkreechewwww07:56
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darkrift4112.6.20-16 is greater then 2.6.17-rc1, right?08:01
darkrift411looks like it, but i havent seen rc1 as an actual part of the model like that before08:01
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DaSkreechYes08:03
darkrift411well08:03
darkrift411it seems the latest drivers are included08:03
darkrift411but it still doesnt friggen work08:03
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DaSkreechdarkrift411: well find out the maintainer of the driver and send him the error log. may help him to give a better driver08:04
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rathelIs there anything like WindirStat for linux? It allows you to see in a piechart the size of folders and files on the harddrive.08:06
DaSkreechNight all08:07
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jriachirathel: maybe xdiskusage or the filesize view of konqueror can help you08:15
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fede_hola08:22
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fede_HIII?08:23
jriachi!Spanish | fede08:23
ubotufede: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:23
jriachihi08:23
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darkrift411wow08:30
darkrift411nobody is around?08:30
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TeraDyneI'm here.08:31
darkrift411you know much about drivers? lol08:32
darkrift411actually, screw it08:32
darkrift411im giving up08:32
darkrift411too tired to care about it anymore08:32
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TeraDyneO_O; ok...08:32
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Nonehi ppl:-)08:38
TeraDynehi08:38
NoneTeraDyne: Do you know how to start kde from command line?08:39
sacasahola08:39
TeraDyne"startkde" or "kdm"08:39
TeraDyne!es | sacasa08:39
ubotusacasa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:39
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NoneTeradyne: I got the message "I cannont connect to x-server"08:40
TeraDyneNone: Hmm... hold on.08:41
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crocodilehow do I change what the boot menu looks like on my dual boot system?08:42
TeraDyneNone: do you have kdm running?08:42
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TeraDyneNone: or KDE?08:42
NoneTeraDyne: No kdm is not running ...the problem appeared when I changed the keyboard preferences inside xconf08:43
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TeraDyneNone: That's odd. Try running "sudo kdm" and post (or pastebin if it's long) the error it gives.08:44
TeraDyne!pastebin08:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:44
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Northern_LightsHello all08:48
TeraDynehi08:48
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Northern_LightsI've got a question about color schemes in Kubuntu08:48
TeraDyneNorthern_Lights: what is it?08:49
Northern_Lightsi've set up the default background window color as black (for use with Kor), and now, the tooltips in konqueror are written as black on black. Does anyone know how to fix that ?08:49
NoneTeraDyne: this is the message I got with "startkde"-->"kpersonalizer:cannot connect to X server"08:49
say10is there something like wine-support channel? where?08:50
TeraDyneNone: ok, let me do a quick search.08:50
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say10do u know anything about how to start Medal Of Honor P. Assault on wine?08:51
TeraDyneNone: did you install using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?08:51
say10It crashes after lohos08:52
Northern_LightsTeraDyne: i'm under Kubuntu08:52
say10*logos08:52
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TeraDyneNorthern_Lights: try just using "startx"08:52
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TeraDynesay10: try #winehq for wine support08:53
Northern_LightsTTeraDyne : i think you're answering to the wrong people. Sorry i answered while you were talking to None.08:53
TeraDyneah, ok. sorry08:53
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TeraDyneNone: try "startx"08:53
NoneTeraDyne: I've got kubuntu08:53
crocodilehow do I change what grub looks like?08:54
crocodileie: adding colors, images, removing items from the list08:54
Linux_GaloreLinux toshi 2.6.22-7-generic #1 SMP Mon Jun 25 17:33:14 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux08:54
Northern_LightsTcrocodile: check out kde-looks.org, they've got grub themes08:54
say10thx TeraDyne08:54
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TeraDynesay10: np08:54
say10bye08:55
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moshiis this where i go for questions about kubuntu?08:56
Northern_Lightsyup moshi08:57
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TeraDyneNorthern_Lights: it seems that the tooltip's background color is tied to the "Window Background" option under "Widget Color" in System Settings > Apperance > Colors. Changing that will change the tooltip background.08:59
Northern_Lightsyey, i'm going to try that08:59
TeraDyneNorthern_Lights: Wait, it's not the one I thought it was.09:00
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TeraDyneThat one seems to only change the tooltips that show up when you hover over things in the taskbar.09:01
Northern_Lightsah, ok. (this one is OK)09:01
Northern_Lightsand in fact it's the tooltips foreground i'd like to be changed09:01
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KevInAlaskaHowdy FOLKS! :)  I turned my physical Com port in my BIOS on and it has not been on sense before I installed Kubuntu.  How can I get Kubuntu now to activate it?09:07
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Linux_Galoreanyone know how to set the grub bootsplash I cant seem to find grub.conf09:15
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HobbseeLinux_Galore: set it in menu.lst09:17
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darwin81Is there official documentation for Kubuntu 7.04?09:18
darwin81Also, where's a good site or guide to get started with Kubuntu?09:18
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Northern_Lightshttps://wiki.kubuntu.com........09:20
Northern_Lightsand http:///wiki.kubuntu.org09:20
Northern_Lightsand the ubuntu websites are always useful as welll09:20
aruni just installed vmware server yesterday09:21
arunit's very useful, and very quick too!09:21
Linux_GaloreHobbsee: yeah saw that, so grub.conf is moved to menu.lst now ?09:22
HobbseeLinux_Galore: not sure.  likely09:26
Linux_GaloreHobbsee: found the line right up the top of the file for the splash image , hmm wonder why its complaining its seems ok09:27
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mike_Greets, everyone...09:28
Linux_Galoreonly but Ive found so far with Tribe 2 is Firefox's srcoll bar doesnt seem to go to the bottom there is a 5mm space09:29
Linux_Galorebug*09:30
Linux_Galorethat and grub complaining about the splash screen file not being there and it is09:30
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mike_I'm having a sound issue when I play just about any game (from emulated NES games to native FPS's) - there's a nasty crackling over the sound that comes and goes. Any ideas?09:31
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darwin81What guide is recommended for a new Kubuntu user?09:33
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mike_darwin81: There are lots of good tutorials on ubuntuforums.org and ubuntugeek.com. As far as one that covers everything though, I'm not too sure.09:35
Northern_LightsBye bye everyone09:36
khaije!freenx09:40
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX09:40
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arunhow come i cant play any games in vmware09:41
emonkeyVMWare has no 3D hardware acceleration09:41
emonkeyafaik09:41
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mike_Are there any virtual machine programs that do?09:43
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mike_I'm having a sound issue when I play just about any game (from emulated NES games to native FPS's) - there's a nasty crackling over the sound that comes and goes. Any ideas?09:50
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arunmike_: parallels for osx and linux has 3d acceleration, but it costs $49.9909:55
dbfthey, I've just installed kubuntu (normally use ubuntu but felt like a change) and now i can't connect to my network :|09:55
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ksivaji!sdl09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
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ksivajidbft "sudo  /etc/init.d/networking start"10:00
dbftit worked in ubuntu so i assumed it would work here, the network manager gets to 28%10:00
dbftconfiguring device10:00
dbftthen doesnt do anything10:00
dbftright now im on using a usb network stick10:00
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dbftoops :p10:00
dbftright, so umm i cant connect to my network any more since i moved from kubuntu to ubuntu10:00
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mike_arun: Thanks for the tip... You wouldn't know anything about my sound issue, by chance? :-)10:02
arunmike_: what games are these10:04
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mike_dbft: A lot of people have problems with KNetworkManager. You might try installing Wi-Fi Radar (sudo apt-get install wifiradar - there might be a hyphen in there, i forget).10:05
mike_arun: Umm... A lot. :-\10:05
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=== #kubuntu [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
(Arwen/#kubuntu) minty, tovid.... but AVI doesn't say a whole lot09:11
Arwenwhen you say "AVI video", I hear "a generic MS container format containing undescribed audio and video content"09:11
mintyya im not that good09:11
mintylol09:12
mintyhow do i kill all my pakage programs09:12
intelikeyok howto put the dvd on the hd so i can play it from there ?09:12
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Arwenintelikey, take the disc, open up your case, place on top of hard drive.09:12
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intelikeywould dd a loop mount work for that ?09:13
intelikeyArwen heh :)09:13
Arwennow, if you mean how to copy the data, use any generic DVD ripper09:13
mintyplse sum help me09:13
Arwenprobably09:13
Arwen(lemme know if it doesn't, DVDs may have some DRM tech circa StarForce)09:13
Arwenminty, with...?09:13
Arwen!u | Minataku09:14
ubotuMinataku: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..09:14
Arwen..........09:14
Arwen!u | minty09:14
ubotuminty: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..09:14
jhutchinsintelikey: dd if=/dev/dvd of=<file>.iso09:14
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mintygo away09:14
Arwen!attitude | minty09:14
ubotuminty: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:14
mintyim sorry09:14
mintyim new to this09:14
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jhutchinsminty: Really, we've given you the best help available for what you asked.  It's up to you to do the rest.09:15
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mintyerm 1. i can install any pakages because something is using it already but i dont know what09:15
Arwenminty, now, back on original topic, we can't help you if you don't ask your question.09:15
intelikeyjhutchins yeah i know dd.  just asking if one can play dvds that way09:15
Arwenand if you've already been answered, don't ask again09:15
mintydifferent problem09:15
Arwenminty, ps -e | grep dpkg09:15
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | minty09:16
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ubotuminty: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:16
jhutchinsminty: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page09:30
Arwenintelikey, yes, you can play DVDs off of an ISO image. If I recall, both mplayer and VLC support this.09:30
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jhutchinsminty: Why do you want to "kill all [your]  package programs"?09:30
intelikeyArwen kewl.  thanks.09:30
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mintybecause i cant add/ remove because somethign is using it and i dont know what09:30
jhutchins!adeptfix | minty09:30
ubotuminty: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:30
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intelikeythat's twice in two minutes09:30
mintythank you   ubotu09:30
pagan0neim running Feisty, i found a tutorial on how to get s/pdif output working on (i think) breezy, they direct me to change a line in /etc/asound.conf, however that file doesnt exist, or has been moved on my system.... where might it be?09:30
jhutchinspagan0ne: try /etc/alsa?09:30
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jhutchinsnope.09:30
nosrednaekimpagan0ne: creat it.09:30
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pagan0nejhutchins: there is not file or dir in /etc called "alsa"09:30
jhutchinsbrilliant09:30
intelikey!sound | pagan0ne you might want to look on this page too09:30
ubotupagan0ne you might want to look on this page too: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:30
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jhutchinspagan0ne: What nosrednaekim said.09:30
draikHow does tightvnc work?09:30
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jhutchinsdraik: Pretty well.09:30
draikkrdc and FreeNX only allow for one user to be logged in at a time (winxp)09:30
intelikeydraik kinda like vnc09:30
draikI want to view what she is doing so that I can see what errors she is getting wrong09:30
jhutchinsdraik: She needs to run the tightvnc server within her session then.09:30
draikI am able to login and access her computer, but I cannot see what she is doing. She gets logged off.09:30
pagan0nejhutchins: how do i create it, i have no idea of the syntax, just what line im looking for, and what it needs to be changed to09:30
draikjhutchins: she's on winxp09:30
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jhutchinsdraik: Fine.09:30
draikjhutchins: No issue with that?09:30
jhutchinsdraik: Well, I sure don't have one.09:30
jhutchinsdraik: I do this on a few machines I maintain.09:30
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draikjhutchins: cool. I will do that now.09:30
jhutchinsdraik: It's a bit difficult to figure when you're going to get your own login, and when you're going to get an established session, but established session is more likely.09:30
jhutchinsdraik: Most of mine I can't log in unless someone has a session running, then I get the shared session.09:30
jhutchinsdraik: It's also common that the existign user gets locked out, but that's configurable.09:30
jhutchinsSupposedly.09:30
draikjhutchins: She's getting errors when running something, but she's a bit vague on the description so I want to just view, not take over09:30
ndrcan anyone help me with kde and beryl?09:30
draikndr: What is your video card?09:30
intelikeydraik asking for help on windows in here is a little bit like walking up to a police man and asking him to lend you money.   maybe you should be asking a banker insted...09:30
ndrgma 95009:30
nosrednaekimndr: did you get beryl and beryl-manager?09:30
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draikintelikey: I'm not asking for windows help (directly), just how to legally access one from Feisty09:30
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ndroh yeah, I've used it for months with gnome, but I also really like it with kde, and it keeps shitting on me.09:30
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draikjhutchins: What do I need to run after she gets tightvnc09:30
nosrednaekimndr: did you install emerald?09:30
jhutchinsdraik: vncviewer09:30
ndryup. I'm not sure if it's just beryl, but my sys tray keeps popping out apps in seperate windows09:30
draikjhutchins: xtightvncviewer09:30
draik?09:30
jhutchinsk, it's just vncviewer on mine.09:30
nosrednaekimndr: ah yeah, i've had that happen b409:30
draikor... svncviewer09:30
ndrso is there a fix, or does my gc just suck?09:30
intelikeyyes09:30
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nosrednaekimndr: not your graphics card's fault at all. is the crashing of the systray the only thing that's wrong?09:30
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ndrwell, I haven't installed it this time yet (just dove into kde again) and konqueror just shit out too.09:32
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ndrinfact, this has happened on other distros as well (sabayon, PCLINUXOS, and some others)09:33
amnesiahi. I am using the -i386 kernel because I thought that's better for my intel CPU, but seems like only 1 core is used. should I use generic instead? I don't see anything with SMP or so..09:33
Daisuke_Idoalways use generic09:33
t_mausdo you have a dual core cpu ?09:33
intelikeygeneric is smp09:33
amnesiayes dual core09:34
Daisuke_Idofor dual core.09:34
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amnesiaah okay thanks09:34
t_mausyeah right generic09:34
amnesiayou know, generic sounds like "it's good for all, take it take it"09:34
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Daisuke_Idothat's pretty much what it is.09:34
intelikeygeneric is smp but will work on single core as well thus it's generic09:34
amnesiamost of those deals never optimal :)09:34
t_mauscompile it by your self ;)09:35
amnesiaokay thanks, good to know then09:35
t_mausmake your on kernel09:35
amnesiat_maus: been there done that, for 7 years09:35
Daisuke_Idowell, probably not, but if you want an optimized kernel...  yeah, what they said.09:35
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amnesiano time anymore09:35
amnesiawell, I don't want a gentoo :) Just want one that's working09:35
t_mausi have only gentoo09:36
Daisuke_Idothen you'll be just fine with generic :D09:36
t_mausund i think its the best distro09:36
amnesiaand optimized as far it's possible, that's why I installed the i386 kernel09:36
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intelikeynow i have gentoo too09:36
intelikey:)09:36
t_maus*gg*09:36
draikjhutchins: So which one do you prefer? xtightvncviewer or svncviewer?09:36
amnesiat_maus: yeah, for those last nanoseconds sure09:36
t_mauswell done09:36
amnesiabut I'm not ready compiling openoffice for days for that nanosecond :)09:36
t_mausthan you use openoffice binary09:37
t_maus>> no compile time ;)09:37
amnesiathen it's not optimized09:37
amnesiahah!09:37
t_mausfunny09:37
t_mausit is just an office suite09:37
t_mausthe rest of the system is optimized09:37
amnesiaokay let's not go so deep into that :)09:37
amnesiathanks for the info guys!09:38
t_maus:D09:38
t_mausnp09:38
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Daisuke_Idoattempting to install s.t.a.l.k.e.r. under wine09:38
Daisuke_Idoso far so good.09:38
Daisuke_Idoand it supports opengl, which is even better :)09:38
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draikis the vncviewer CLI only? I don't see the app under the K Menu09:38
amnesiadraik: there's xvncviewer and krdc or so09:39
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t_mausi have a topic virtual machins who uses which : i use virtualbox ( opensource rocks)09:39
amnesiaxvncviewer is command line AFAIK09:39
amnesiabye09:39
draikamnesia: she got logged off09:40
intelikeytell here to drop to a console and see why    hehhe09:41
t_mausi have a topic virtual machins who uses which : i use virtualbox ( opensource rocks)09:42
intelikeyis there an echo in here ?09:43
intelikeyt_maus got anything else you want us to know ?09:43
t_mauswhich one are you using09:43
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intelikeyoh: was your post supposed to be a question ?09:44
t_mausright ^^09:44
intelikeyqemu09:44
draikjhutchins: I'm in. Thank you much09:44
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Schuenemann!rmvb09:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:45
t_maushave you ever used a nother one ?09:45
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intelikeyyeah dosemu bochs09:46
Schuenemannwhat do I need to watch rmvb? Kaffeine gives me an error about initialization of drvc.so libraries09:46
t_mausno one like vmware oder virtualbox09:46
intelikeyArwen for the off topic chatter or something local ?09:46
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Arwenintelikey, for the lack of intelligence :-\09:46
Arwenand for fools repeating questions answered 2 days ago09:47
intelikeyArwen i'll try to remember what i asked then........   ;/09:47
SchuenemannArwen, you answered that 2 days ago? :-p09:47
Arwenintelikey, not you, Schuenemann09:47
Schuenemannunfortunately09:47
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Schuenemannweird is that I don't remember installing anything for rmvb in edgy09:48
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intelikeyand do not root things like   `echo 'boo :321 >/*' | tr -d \[:alnum:] `09:53
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Arwenintelikey, wtf does that do?09:54
intelikeyArwen if you were root it would  : > /*   blank any file in the root dir,  thus the default kernel09:55
Arwenah09:55
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intelikeyArwen heres another one.  this would blank the users home (not really destructive unless you have data stored there)         perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=] =>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{~" -;;s;;$_;see'09:57
ArwenGAH, LINESPAM09:57
ardchoilleArwen: Could you be a bit more respectful to people in the channel? Saying "fools" is not coc-friendly, IMHO. The folks who learn things here will take what they've learned to others and we don't want this to be known as a disrespectful channel.09:57
Arwen(/me has 1 file in his/her home dir, not counting subdirs)09:58
intelikeythat is recursive09:58
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Arwenardchoille, asking the same thing over and over even after being ANSWERED NUMEROUS TIMES is clear idiocy/trolling09:58
Arwenintelikey, hmm, ouch, lol09:58
Arwenmy /home is more important to me than my life09:58
ardchoilleArwen: You don't have to answer questions at all you know.09:59
Arwen:-\09:59
Schuenemannintelikey, what's that? A contest on how to write unreadable code? :-] 10:00
intelikeybesides never assume malus for what stupidity can explain10:00
intelikeySchuenemann heh sure want to join10:00
Schuenemannis that a regex?10:01
intelikeyperl10:01
Schuenemanna perl regular expression?10:01
intelikeyyes10:01
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intelikeypcre10:01
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intelikeyi think i'll write a script to encript commands.10:04
intelikeygulp  and  plug   to unencript them    ???10:05
ardchoilleencrypt10:05
ardchoilleunencrypt10:05
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intelikeyno just fuzz them up not kill them10:05
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intelikey:)10:05
ardchoillehehe10:05
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SchuenemannDOS had "cool" commands10:08
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Schuenemannlike redefining keys... the A could input a G or even a full format command and confirmation10:09
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intelikeySchuenemann anything dos does linux shells do better10:12
SchuenemannI bet it does10:12
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Schuenemannbut it was funny at that time... internet only "existed" in movies10:13
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Schuenemann!w3210:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:14
Schuenemann!w32codecs10:14
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs10:14
intelikeyyeah...     but examples like my windows keys input   Decr_Console  &  Incr_Console   respectively are far more useful than just funny10:14
Schuenemanninput what?10:15
intelikeyDecr_Console10:15
intelikeysame as    [alt] +[<] 10:15
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intelikeyand Incr_Console == [alt] +[>] 10:15
alan_hola10:16
intelikeyswitches the tty up one or down one10:16
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Schuenemannhmm10:16
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Schuenemann!medibuntu10:17
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org10:17
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alan_Donde est el espaol?10:17
draikalan_: !es10:17
intelikeySchuenemann heres a script to setup what i just posted.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3784410:17
Schuenemann!es | alan_10:17
ubotualan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:17
alan_ty10:18
Schuenemannintelikey, what is Decr_Console for? I tested, but did not understand10:18
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intelikeySchuenemann it decreses the console/tty/vt number by one   thus if you are in tty4  and hit left-winkey   it will drop to tty3   ....10:19
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intelikeySchuenemann not of much use inside of xorg10:20
GendoIkarihelp me guys i-ve got a problem10:20
GendoIkariwith ethernet10:20
CrunchyFerretti havent understood every 3rd word of the past 10m conversation10:20
GendoIkariI-m connected with kubuntu live cd10:20
GendoIkaribecause my eth is disappeared!10:21
intelikeyCrunchyFerrett don't you mean every other line ?    (my posts)10:21
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GendoIkarianyone can help me_10:21
CrunchyFerrettNo, I mean the entire conversation.10:21
Schuenemannintelikey, I tried, it switched to strings I have typed before... not sure when or that order10:21
CrunchyFerrettI used to think I was smart. Then I met Linux.10:21
pvandewyngaerdeGendoIkari: completely gone or down ?10:21
GendoIkaritnks for answer10:22
GendoIkarii mean the interface from system setting is disappear10:22
GendoIkariand i cant do anything with web10:22
intelikeySchuenemann well rather than confuse the client i'll drop this for now.  if you want to pick it up later when it's quiet in here ok. if not oh well.    k?10:23
GendoIkarii think that is was happen because nforce installation went bed10:23
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Schuenemannsure10:23
GendoIkariis there any method to force kernel to detect all eth device_10:23
GendoIkari?10:23
GendoIkariplz help me i search with google but i do not find anything usefull10:25
GendoIkariif you give me a key/word a clue i can try again10:25
pvandewyngaerdeis it onboard netcard or pci one ?10:25
GendoIkarionboard10:25
intelikey!ati | GendoIkari not sure it will help...10:25
ubotuGendoIkari not sure it will help...: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:25
GendoIkarii-ve a 5600]  amd64 with kubuntu64 and m2n-e sli10:26
GendoIkarikubuntu 7.04 64 bit i mean10:26
intelikeyit's probably that the driver is now black listed10:26
intelikeyyou can; grep ati /etc/defaults/*10:27
intelikeyalso modprobe.d/*   ^10:27
GendoIkarisorry my noobish mind but what do tou mean with -grep /etc/deafults?10:27
intelikeywoops.  sorry.10:28
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GendoIkarii have run the bash script for the nforce 500 chip10:30
GendoIkaritaken from asus10:30
trakinasGendoIkari: grep will catch what entries with ati on it in the dir /etc/defaults/10:30
GendoIkariand it says me that he cannot proceed10:30
GendoIkarii-ve to write "grep nvidia /etc/default" ?10:32
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trakinasGendoIkari: in the command line, without the quotes, of course10:34
trakinasGendoIkari: but do like he said: grep ati /etc/defaults/*10:34
LolBRhi all, i'm trying to install the build-essential package on my KUBUNTU, but when i type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" i get "E: Couldn't find package build-essential", what i'm doing wrong ?10:34
GendoIkaribut the problem for me is ethernet10:35
GendoIkarii-ve got a nvidia 8600gts10:35
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GendoIkaribut the problem is eth0 device10:36
GendoIkariwhen i try to install nforce driver, script freeze, and maybe linux driver is  exploded10:36
GendoIkarihow can i set it again_10:36
trakinasGendoIkari: so he said to the wrong person10:37
trakinasi cant help10:37
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trakinasin fact, im looking for smth or someone who can help me with Java and inheritance10:39
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SchuenemannLolBR, pastebin your sources.list10:39
Schuenemanntrakinas, what, exacly?10:39
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trakinasSchuenemann: bsic stuff. Im doing an exercise to tomorrow class and Im getting "cannot find symbol" error10:41
Schuenemanntrakinas, pastebin10:41
GendoIkarisorry guys i-m here again10:41
GendoIkarimaybe should i try10:41
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GendoIkarisudo modprob -r e100010:41
GendoIkari?10:41
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LolBRwhy when i run the LIVE version of KUBUNTU i get all the packages like BUILD-ESSENTIAL to install easyly , but now i installed it on my HD and i get one package asking for another, and another, how to fix that ?10:43
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SchuenemannLolBR, how is your sources.list ?10:45
trakinasLolBR: this aint an error. the livecd is probably looking for the packages inside the LiveCD. it is probably that some of those packages arent on the tree.10:45
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GendoIkariok guys10:46
DebItalotrakinas: faz um favor para mi?10:46
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GendoIkariall is do well now10:46
GendoIkaribut i've do not do anything!10:46
GendoIkarii've simply reboot10:46
GendoIkariO_O10:46
LolBRSchuenemann: i've never messed with it, its default10:46
DebItaloPergunta para eles porque meu KGet retm os downloads toda hora10:46
trakinasDebItalo: okay10:46
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GendoIkarii've reboot before many times but only now it makes eth0 working O_O10:46
trakinasDebItalo Kget is rentaining his downloads all the time.10:46
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wowowowthere is a lot of people in here10:49
Schuenemanntrakinas, where's the code10:49
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fignew_wowowow: there's bigger channels :)10:50
trakinasSchuenemann: i will paste on a pastebin.10:50
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wowowowthats good10:51
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DexterFhi10:52
DexterFjust fired up 7.04 dvd on a laptop with 512megs, I keep launching the installer, it keeps failing. what might be wrong?10:53
dthackerDexterF: have you certified the media?10:53
DexterFwell, not really10:54
dthackerDexterF: Well, that would be troubleshooting step one.10:54
DexterFused that dvd on 2 other puters tho, went fine10:54
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trakinasSchuenemann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28146/10:54
DexterFcan you be a bit more precise about "certify"? like md5, gpg keys or what?10:55
dthackerDexterF: when you hit the first menu, you have an option to run an md5 checksum on the media.  You may want to try that.10:55
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Schuenemanntrakinas, and  the error?10:56
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trakinasSchuenemann: oh! my bad!! Cannot Find Symbol - Constructor Funcionario()10:57
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dthackereither this room is slow or the lag is really bad10:57
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Schuenemanntrakinas, you have to contructor Funcionario()10:58
DexterFdthacker: 1st menu? you mean the grub menu or what?10:58
SchuenemannI mean you have no*10:58
trakinasdthacker: some people are slow.10:58
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trakinasSchuenemann: hm! so, how do I implement it?10:58
dthackerDexterF:  I have only installed from a live CD or Server CD, whick present you with options to check media.  I have not used  DVD.10:59
Schuenemanntrakinas, subclasses ALWAYS call the superclass constructor10:59
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Schuenemannif you don't type that, it will call an empty constructor, which you don't have10:59
frojndhow do u change password for some user? passwd user yourpassword ?11:00
trakinasSchuenemann: ok. I know that, but how do I create the constructor on the superclass?11:00
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dthackerfrojnd: sudo passwd usernametochange11:00
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frojndhow do u become normal user, if u became super usser with su ??11:02
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joaoluizBoa tarde11:02
Schuenemanntrakinas, you can either create an empty contructor in Funcionario or a constructor in the other class that will call an existing Funcionario constructor... not sure what would be the best, as I don't know exacly the problem11:02
dthackerfrojnd: type exit, and you should become mortal again ;)11:02
trakinasSchuenemann: hmmmm... okay! i will try out some more here. thanks11:03
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SchuenemannI have no sound in my rmvb, can anyone help?11:03
Arwenhint: stop using rmvb11:04
SchuenemannI need them, I have slow connection and AVI/MPEG are too big11:04
trakinasArwen: that does not help him11:05
dthackerSchuenemann: looks highly propietary, no idea11:05
trakinasSchuenemann: if you have mplayer, play it on the konsole and see which audio codec it uses11:05
Arwentrakinas, apparently our advice to install w32codecs that we've been trying to impart hasn't helped either11:05
Arwentrakinas, it'll use Real Cook11:05
SchuenemannI didn't have those problems in edgy11:05
trakinasArwen: hmm11:05
SchuenemannArwen, I did install w32codecs11:05
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Schuenemannheh, mplayer can't even play the video11:06
Arwen(omg liek AVI/MPEG are liek too big) - uh... AVI and MPEG are just containers... and are you trying to watch some of that ani-crud?11:06
frojndhm, what's the command to check who uses your username ? or who is on your computer ?11:06
Arwenfrojnd, whoami and finger11:06
ardchoillefrojnd: who  ?11:07
dthackerfrojnd: curiously enough it's who -u to see who is logged in11:07
frojndok tnx11:07
Schuenemanntrakinas, mplayer has sound!11:07
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Arwen(so put them together and you'll have both!)11:08
Schuenemannhehe11:08
Schuenemannactually it has both11:08
Schuenemannbut I'd like kaffeine11:08
Arwenwell, there we go?11:09
Arwen...11:09
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Arwenyou've got a crappy file, deal with it, lamers can'11:09
Arwenlamers can't be choosers*11:09
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DexterFSchuenemann: see? xine thing. like i suspected.11:10
SchuenemannArwen, look, I can't make people encode their videos like I'd want11:10
dthackerDexterF: any news on the DVD test?11:10
Arwenwell, you don't have to download them...11:10
Arwen(and I've yet to see anything originally encoded in Real)11:10
DexterFdthacker: still at it. md5'ing a dvd on a laptop 'rom obviously takes some time11:11
Schuenemannif I don't download them, how am I going to watch?11:11
Arwen(don't try to watch cruddy files...)11:11
SchuenemannDexterF, how to set it now on kaffeine? any ideas?11:11
Arwenand again, I've yet to see anything originally Real... probably more of that web crap11:11
BiovoreSchuenemann: mplayer should be able to play 9911:12
dthackerDexterF: yah, I suppose so.  I have Kubuntu on a older Compaq and a 2 year old Dell.  What type is this?11:12
Biovore% of the stuff out there11:12
SchuenemannBiovore, I don't really like mplayer...11:12
DexterFdthacker: toshiba satellite pro from around 2002 or 200311:12
BiovoreSchuenemann: xine?11:12
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DexterFSchuenemann: no clue. best you talk to the xine ml if it really bothers you that much11:13
Schuenemannjust a sec11:13
SchuenemannArwen, if that depended on me, DOC wouldn't exist anymore11:13
Arwen....wtf is doc11:13
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Schuenemannwindows crappy document format heh11:14
SchuenemannBiovore, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28148/11:14
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Arwenoh.... you know, you *don't have to use crappy formats*11:15
Arwenwhen you download them, you ask for pain11:15
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Schuenemannso, how am I going to watch the video if the person who made it used a crappy format? =/11:15
Arwenso just don't freaking watch it and get it somewhere else in a less crappy format11:16
BiovoreSchuenemann: mplayer seems to think it in realplayer's format.11:16
Arwenand if mplayer works, stop complaining, geez11:16
Schuenemannthere isn't. It's not the latest shrek movie...11:16
SchuenemannBiovore, it is, isn't it?11:16
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Biovorewhat the file extention?11:16
Schuenemannrmvb11:16
Biovoreyeah.. thats realplayer11:16
dthackerDexterF: do you have a model number11:16
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BiovoreSchuenemann: they make realplayer for linux as well...11:17
Biovorebut that should work in mplayer11:17
Schuenemannlet me explain11:17
DexterFdthacker: Satellite Pro 2100. and if you happen to know what type of wifi this has, lemme know11:17
SchuenemannBiovore, it works in mplayer (though I don't like it too much) and on kaffeine (which I like better) I get no sound11:17
dthackerDexterF: I'm checking the laptop testing page...11:17
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SchuenemannI was able to play it in kaffeine in edgy11:18
Biovoretry kmplayer?11:18
Biovorekde frontend of mplayer11:18
Schuenemanncan't I play it in kaffeine?11:18
DexterFdthacker: the..? where would that be?11:18
Biovorewhat backend is kaffeine using?11:18
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Biovorexine?11:18
Schuenemannxine11:18
BiovoreI think xine should be able to do it..11:18
BiovoreI think there is a package call xine-lib-extras or something that you need to install11:19
dthackerDexterF:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam11:19
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DexterFcool.11:19
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Schuenemannlibxine-extracodecs? I have it11:19
SchuenemannBiovore, does mplayer use xine?11:19
DexterFi've been on slackware for 5 years or so, I'm not used to much help :P11:19
SlimeyPetemplayer uses mplayer11:19
Biovoreno mplayer is its own thing..11:19
ArwenMPLAYER USES MPLAYER STOP TROLLING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD11:19
Schuenemannlol11:19
dthackerDexterF: I see a 2100CDT.....11:20
Biovorethere are 3 main multimedia backends on linux.  libXine, Mplayer, Gstreamer11:37
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DexterFthe sat pro 2100 is listed as well further down11:37
dthackerah, good!11:37
DexterFill have a look11:37
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damianoshi11:37
damianosI have a question about lmdonkey11:37
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damianosDoes anybody use it here ?11:37
dthacker!anybody | damianos11:37
ubotudamianos: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:37
dhqis there a rsync server for the kubuntu dvd fiesty11:37
dhq!rsync11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
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SchuenemannBiovore, this is the error from kaffeine: [cook @ 0xb59998b4] Necessary extradata missing!11:37
damianosWhat should I do to start working with mldonkey ?11:37
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damianosI am loggin to my shell account11:37
damianosand then trying to start use mldonkey but acctually i don't know how to start11:37
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DexterFmld? thought that was dead anyway11:37
damianosbut i know that mldonkey is installed on this remote machine11:37
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DexterFiirc mldonkey is a gui app11:37
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dthackerdhq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors11:37
DexterFif you need a core/gui split ed2k app try amule11:37
dhqdthacker, does it have rsync11:37
damianosDexterF; but I login on a remote machine where console is avaiable only11:37
dthackerdhq: I see three rsync URL's on this page11:37
DexterFthis integrity check takes bloody ages11:37
Arwenis ed2k actually good for anything? I though the network died off a while back11:37
damianosthat is why i need to use mldonkey - it is for console11:37
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DexterFdamianos: well, forwad X or go amule11:37
DexterF*forward11:37
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Schuenemannhow could ed2k be dead if cobol isn't?11:37
dhqdthacker, okies11:37
damianoshmm I need to use sth which is for console only11:37
DexterF[23:24]  <DexterF> if you need a core/gui split ed2k app try amule11:37
DexterFhas a webserver, too11:37
DexterFtho the webserver sucks imo11:37
dthackerdhq: oh, sorry there are three for Austrailia,  there's a bunch more11:37
damianosyes it have but i cannnot login via webgui to mldonkey11:37
DexterF*sigh*11:37
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damianosI dont know how to add my machine to allowed_isp11:37
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dhqdthacker, well how do i use the rsync do you have any idea11:37
dthackerdhq: nope, but bet there are HOWTO's11:37
dhqdthacker, ok11:37
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SchuenemannBiovore, DexterF, I found the solution: http://lenrek.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-crazy-world-of-media-player-in-linux/11:37
SchuenemannArwen, now you can enjoy your lovely rmvb files in kaffeine :-)11:37
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SchuenemannI don't smoke, thanks anyway11:37
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dhqdthacker, these are ubuntu11:37
dhqdthacker, i need kubuntu ones11:37
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dthackerdhq: look at the corresponding ftp link and follow the directory path....11:37
dhqk11:37
DexterFSchuenemann: google-fu hooray11:37
dthackerdhq: for instance ftp://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/pub/ubuntu/releases   shows a directory called kubuntu11:37
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Schuenemannheeh11:37
K-RyanHey guys11:37
ehchas anyone gotten a Logitech G5 laser mouse to work on kubuntu? all the buttons working?11:37
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cheesypieces_does anyone have experience using a program to copy videos to ipod?11:38
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jussi01!ipod | cheesypieces_11:40
ubotucheesypieces_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod11:40
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K-Ryan!rockbox11:40
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!11:40
steffenHow to change my screen size? i have 640x480 and that is the max :p    its on system settings.11:41
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steffenim on system settings **11:41
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dthackerehc: I don't see it listed in Hardware Support, but you can go here to test for registered hardware.  http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/11:42
dthackerbye for now, need to go learn squidguard....11:43
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ehcdthacker, okay thanks11:43
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hammerpunkhello, who knows what they're talking about here?11:47
NickPrestaI know this is off-topic but does anyone have any ideas as to where I should ask questions regarding Webalizer? Any specific or helpful forums you've come across?11:47
K-RyanMost of us do hammerpunk11:47
hammerpunklol11:47
hammerpunkdumb question, eh?11:47

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