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ryancris the group plugin available in gutsy's compiz-fusion?03:06
PiciI see it on the list, but I dont personally use it.03:07
ryancrwhich list?03:07
crdlb!find libgroup.so gutsy03:07
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ubotuFile libgroup.so found in beryl-plugins-unsupported, beryl-plugins-unsupported-dbg03:07
PiciIn CompizConfig Settings Manager03:08
crdlb:/03:08
ryancrwell i found it in gconf, but there is only a single enable/disable checkbox... and it doesn't seem to do anything03:08
crdlbyeah look in ccsm03:08
PiciAlthough, it might be broken like cubereflex is :/03:08
ryancrdoh, thanks.. i didn't scroll down far enought in ccsm ;(03:09
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ryancrhmm yeah.. enabled it.. still doesnt seem to do anything03:11
ryancryep no luck...damn.. wanted to try it out03:16
PiciLooks like it has the same issue as cubereflex03:16
PiciYou want to file the bug, or shall I?03:17
ryancris there any other data i can grab?  some compiz error log or something?03:19
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PiciI attached strace and looked for file operations:03:20
ryancri wonder if Super+s is used for something else, i only ask cuz if i try and do a super+s on a terminal it just types the letter 's' in the terminal03:20
Piciopen("/usr/lib/compiz/libgroup.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)03:20
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Piciits in the non-official packages...03:21
ryancrwell that looks like what is going on with mine, no libgroup.so there either03:21
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ryancr is there anyway to change the color that shows after gdm login but before the desktop displays?03:56
ryancri thought i read somewhere before that this color(brown) is hard coded somewhere but it can be changed03:57
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jriachihello05:39
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jriachii am running kubuntu gutsy, what would the best way to get compiz running, i get no windows decorations when i follow the tutorial i found in ubuntu.com  :S05:40
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DanaGheh, nice bug title: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/11208406:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 112084 in aptitude "aptitude wants to commit suicide (and take all system with it)" [Undecided,Confirmed] 06:22
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jriachi(argh... that libc6 g_thread_init() bug , is going to drive me crazy ...)06:31
jriachican i use libc6 from feisty or something?06:33
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deobfuscateSo how stable is tribe 2 at the moment06:51
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starzh3sp4wn, sorry i had been up all night and crashed the hell out07:23
starzyeah i use the same partition for / and /boot07:23
starzi just seperate swap and home out07:23
starzswap is shared across distros as is /home07:23
starzhm07:38
starzperhaps you were hinting at using a shared /boot partition07:39
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/12183307:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off when at idle or on battery." [Undecided,New] 07:40
DanaGhmm, I see other brightness bugs that may be related.07:40
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Hobbseehiya starz, DanaG07:50
starzsup thar Hobbsee ^_^07:50
starzstill hadnt gotten to installing the dealio b/c i fell asleep >_<07:50
Hobbseei'm contemplating what to upload to the archive next :P07:50
Hobbseehow's that for an answer?07:50
starzmm07:50
starzhow about some gnu porn>?07:51
starzwe could make a non-official repo for hawt walls07:51
Hobbseehmmm...nah.  i suspect i might lose my upload rigths for that07:51
starzkinda like the old ones but hAWTer07:51
starzdar07:51
starzn07:51
starzwell what are our options?07:51
starz:)07:51
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starzhm09:06
starzwell i managed to boot into the live cd lol09:06
Hobbseethat's a start09:06
Hobbseestarz: and then it all broke?09:06
starznaw actually its working ok09:07
starzinstalled nvidia glx and xchat09:07
starzbtw09:07
starzcan i mention that i think xchat should REALLY ship with the default package09:07
starzor irssi or SOMETHING09:07
starzshould be a command like 'help' or so so someone could theoretically know nothing and type in that and come to the irc chan lol09:08
starzyeah i think im gonna replace my feisty install with this :>09:08
starz[edgy is my regular install] 09:08
starzbtw09:08
starzis there a way to start the installer so that it installs it with the preferences and packages i have in now?09:08
starz[thats another one thats always bothered me lol] 09:09
starzand ive also always wondered if there was a way to take and do the um09:09
Hobbseestarz: space09:09
starzi forget what its called but its popular with say knoppix and dsl where u write the image to a partition and always boot like its live, just have a settings partition seperate09:09
Hobbseebut yeah, i'd like irssi09:09
starzHobbsee, space??09:10
Hobbseestarz: yes.  on the cd.09:10
Hobbseeas in, the distinct lack of it09:10
starzo09:10
starzyeah.09:10
starzirssi is pretty small >.<09:10
Hobbsee!info irssi09:10
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB09:10
starzbut yeah i know yall think about that stuff09:10
Hobbsee1mb09:10
starzowow09:10
starzalmost a meg eh09:10
starznirc?09:11
starzis that it?09:11
Hobbseethey had to kick 14, else the ubuntu cds wouldnt work09:11
starzone sec09:11
Hobbseeyou can use dpkg --set-selections and dpkg --get-selections09:11
Hobbseeman dpkg tells you more09:11
starztinyirc09:11
starzkay let me look at man thanx09:12
starzanyway how goes you weekend? :)09:12
Hobbseestarz: bleh.  http://community.livejournal.com/customers_suck/22288123.html09:12
Hobbseestarz: having to work at $current employer is painful09:12
starzgah09:13
starzbtw09:13
starzi'm perfectly capable of paying while on cell09:14
starz[its called cash in hand :P] 09:14
Hobbseehuh?09:14
Hobbseeoh09:14
starz:P smoke brb09:14
Hobbseenot when you're requesting cigarettes or phone credit09:14
Hobbseebecause you actually have to stop your conversation, ask me what you want, and then go back to your conversation09:14
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starzah09:22
starzfair enough09:22
starzaahh09:26
starzso --get-selections to write currently in to that stdin and --set-selections to confirm thats what i want or so09:26
starztho seems that the second one when pushed in from here is taking forever lol09:27
starzwell let's hope it doesnt kill the partitions here we go :>09:30
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starz!info tinyirc09:31
ubotutinyirc: a tiny IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.dfsg.1-1 (gutsy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB09:31
starzhehe09:31
starzuh oh09:31
Hobbseeheh, nice09:36
starzyeah tinyirc is useable - for emergencies anyway which is all i would want it to be for in the instance im talking about... well lets try the hdd install again :P09:37
starz,,09:38
starzmm***.09:38
starzits hanging on step five after scanning hdd partition types when i tell it manual partitioning....09:38
starz!alternate09:43
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal09:43
starz!minimal09:44
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD09:44
Hobbseestarz: oh, so you got to that09:45
Hobbseestarz: kill the installer, run ps aux | grep ubiq and kill any of those processes09:45
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Hobbseestarz: then run "sudo ubiquity" from a console09:45
Hobbseethen it will work09:45
Hobbseestarz: (known bug, listed on the release annoucement)09:45
starzah i missed it :P09:46
starzooo i like this: i get logging output in the terminal ^_^09:46
starzhm the other thing ive been wondering about is if there's a way to get ubuntu to quit using udev - with multiple installs the id's of various partitions tend to change - i'm always playing with something new and while ive been manually rewriting the /etc/fstab to reflect fs type and partition just curious09:48
starzwoo hoo! looks like we are in business!09:48
Hobbsee:)09:51
starz:)09:51
starzkekeke09:51
starzi cant wait to break it :D09:51
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=== Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please ***don't*** run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependancies, bug fixing and the like. Things break, this is normal | Ubuntu 7.10 will be nicknamed the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 2 released
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DanaGArgh, the boxfit xscreensaver locks up Xorg.09:38
mon^rchhow is stability for gutsy?09:40
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Jordan_Umon^rch, The only crashes I have had were from running openGL apps ( gnash ), but that is in VMware with no 3D acceleration09:43
h3sp4wnVMware is quite a well tested environment though - real hardware may have issues (depending on how obscure it is)09:44
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pvandewyngaerdein my bootchart i see a sleep command after dhclient that slows down boot by 3 seconds after, can i disable that ?10:30
coNPpvandewyngaerde: do you use dhcp networking?10:31
pvandewyngaerdehttp://pietervandewyngaerde.googlepages.com/gutsy-20070701-2.png10:31
h3sp4wnpvandewyngaerde: edit the script10:31
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pvandewyngaerdeok, i set my unused eth not to dhcp anymore10:33
pvandewyngaerdei guess that was the prob10:34
pvandewyngaerdedisabling readahead will not improve it i guess10:35
pvandewyngaerdeallthough it takes up 5 seconds10:36
h3sp4wnjust change the boot line to be init=/bin/dash (speed up boot massively) - Is there much point (with a development version where any changes you will have to reapply to any updates you get)10:37
pvandewyngaerdei'm just playing and learning10:38
pvandewyngaerdedoens't that only bring up a shell ?10:41
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kougarohello10:43
pvandewyngaerdehello10:43
kougaroi have a bug with blender, it crashes everytime, do anyone have problems with it?10:43
h3sp4wnpvandewyngaerde: Yeah it does - fast though10:44
gnomefreakkougaro: file a bug :)10:44
kougaroi get this error msg : Ignoring Xlib error: error code 171 request code 14710:44
kougarothen core dumped10:45
kougarosure, i just wanted to know if there was someworkaround i didn't know of :-)10:45
pvandewyngaerdeh3sp4wn: i prefer full boot to gui10:45
gnomefreakkougaro: not much that error tells us file bug add the full error and if on gutsy you should have gotten a pop up saying want to send this to developers10:46
kougarook, btw i did not get any pop up.10:46
h3sp4wnpvandewyngaerde: I don't just boot a shell but if I want X I just use startx10:46
gnomefreakthat popup is very very important to let send the info now10:46
gnomefreakkougaro: if core dumped you should have if on gutsy as apport has been turned on10:47
kougaroi will fill a bug report the normal way :-)10:47
gnomefreakkougaro: attach /var/crash/_usr_.... file10:47
kougarognomefreak : ok, thank you10:47
h3sp4wngnomefreak: What has happened/happening about smart-pm10:47
gnomefreaksmartpm works last i heard10:48
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h3sp4wngnomefreak: Was it not supposed to be the default package manager by now10:48
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: you have to give me more, i can find out anything but i have hands full thanks to everyone wanting new packages in gutsy10:48
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: no10:48
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gnomefreakits not built up enough to take over for apt10:49
h3sp4wnI am sure I read somewhere of canocial employing someone to work on it10:49
h3sp4wnages ago10:49
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: you did10:49
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gnomefreakh3sp4wn: i will ask when this will happen but it wont happen for gutsy10:50
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gnomefreakthe developer of apt/smartpm/among others our schedules conflict something awfull now but i should see him in morning since i have sunbird issues i should be here10:52
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eagles0513875gnome u a core developer11:01
gnomefreakeagles0513875: no11:02
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eagles0513875ok11:03
gnomefreakmotu11:03
eagles0513875kool11:03
jriachihello11:05
gnomefreakhi11:05
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jriachiany idea about how to fix/workarround the  gutsy libc6  g_thread_init()  bug?11:08
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gnomefreakjriachi: its a warning ignore it11:09
gnomefreakjriachi: it will get fixed before release11:09
=== gnomefreak faces big issue with fixing that
gnomefreakhow do you make an app call g_thread before calling glib if it never uses g_thread or any other glib threads11:10
jriachia lot of applications are failing :S11:11
jriachi(not important, since it is not my main machine.,, but somehow irritating.. )11:12
gnomefreakjriachi: failing or giving the warning11:13
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gnomefreakjriachi: the warning is not causing crashing11:14
DanaGOdd: I haven't gotten any apport crash-report notifications.11:14
gnomefreakthey are separate issues11:14
jriachignomefreak: i know the warning is not causing the crash... but e.g amule fails to open the preferences dialog crashing instead11:14
gnomefreakjriachi: right but that is not related the crash is being caused by something else. if the warning wasnt there it would still crash.11:15
jriachivlc crashes..11:15
gnomefreakjriachi: hint warning has always been there but the older glibs hid it from users11:15
gnomefreakjriachi: not any more11:15
gnomefreakjriachi: its been fixed or i forgot to upload it11:15
jriachignomefreak: the amule bug or the vlc bug?11:16
gnomefreakvlc should be fixed11:16
jriachi(good movement, not hidding the warning, imho)11:16
gnomefreakbad11:16
jriachignomefreak: i am using the .es. mirror, maybe it is not sync yet11:16
gnomefreaknever good to hide thengs from people that is how we ended up where we are11:17
gnomefreakjriachi: this was 3 weeks ago11:17
gnomefreakmatter of fact that was the app i used to test this glib warning to see if it was glib or if it was app11:17
jriachivlc 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu1, here11:18
jriachignomefreak: and was the app..11:18
jriachiis that the version i should have?11:19
gnomefreakit was a lib failing libvlc i think but its been so long ago, im looking to see if maybe i uploaded it to my repo11:19
gnomefreak0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu111:19
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gnomefreakjriachi: mine isnt crashing at all11:37
gnomefreakjriachi: it used to, asac remembers the 2 days i spent on that chasing my tail11:37
gnomefreak;)11:37
gnomefreakjriachi: but yes the crash that was happening was not related to glib warning and was fixed11:37
gnomefreakif its crashing now you need to file bug report and attach crash log to it11:37
jriachihttp://rafb.net/p/3MJLcu62.html , gnomefreak11:37
gnomefreakjriachi: that is the crash that was fixed11:37
gnomefreak:(11:37
gnomefreakfile a bug with that on it11:37
jriachiok, i will :)11:37
gnomefreakjriachi: run command like this11:37
gnomefreakG_SLICE=always-malloc vlc11:37
gnomefreaklet me know if it opens and stays open11:37
jriachiopens and stays open11:37
gnomefreakjriachi: good11:37
gnomefreakjriachi: file a bug11:37
jriachiand plays a .mp4 i had in a nfs folder :)11:38
gnomefreakjriachi: apt-cache policy glibc11:38
gnomefreakg=for get that11:39
gnomefreakapt-cache policy libglib2.0-011:39
gnomefreakwhat version is installed?11:39
jriachi=============================================================11:39
jriachi$ vlc --version11:39
jriachiVLC media player 0.8.6c Janus11:39
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jriachisorry :(11:41
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gnomefreakwhat does apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0 show as installed version11:42
jriachii pasted the selection instead of the clipboard11:42
jriachiInstalled: 2.13.5-0ubuntu311:42
gnomefreakhmmmm11:42
gnomefreakjriachi: ok some where there is a regression than because the version of glib and the version of vlc are correct, please try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:43
gnomefreaklet me know if it updates anything other than gcc g++ and 2 or 3 others11:44
jriachi(deleted source es.archive, now trying with us.archive, just in case :) )11:45
gnomefreakwe had a few tool chain updates this weekend that wouldnt affect vlc thats why i said that11:45
gnomefreakjriachi: use gb11:45
gnomefreakus is a failure of an archive11:45
gnomefreakits down more than it needs to be11:45
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DanaGPut kernel.org above the official mirror, and it will be preferred if it is up to date.11:45
DanaGKernel.org sits on an insanely large pipe.11:46
jriachiwith us.  --> 162 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. (mmm... es.archive is out of sync)11:46
gnomefreakjriachi: yep11:46
gnomefreakthought so11:46
gnomefreaktheres a lib or 3 that you havent fully updated since it was fixed11:47
DanaGhttp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/11:47
jriachignomefreak: btw, the amule is also fixed by the always-malloc11:47

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