| asac | yeah ... this g_thread_init thing is unreasonable | 12:54 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | mozilla doesn't use g_thread library at all | 12:55 |
| asac | mozillais probably willing to patch it if we come up with a patch :) | 12:55 |
| asac | gnomefreak: there is no upstream report for it because we are using bleeding edge glib ... which noone else does | 12:56 |
| asac | btw, does pressing F11 in gnome terminal bring it to full screen for you? | 01:04 |
| asac | it always did ... but now i returned home and it doesn't work anymore | 01:04 |
| asac | something really wierd is going on here | 01:05 |
| asac | gaim has disappeared from menu as well | 01:05 |
| asac | i mean before i left it always booted up on X startup ... together with gajim | 01:05 |
| asac | now gaim isn't in menu anymore | 01:05 |
| asac | system -> about ubuntu disappeared as well | 01:06 |
| asac | i just have about gnome | 01:06 |
| asac | gaim is really uninstalled :/ | 01:07 |
| asac | hmmm maybe it happened when i tried to install out firefox package here in feisty | 01:07 |
| asac | hmm | 01:07 |
| asac | maybe time to upgrade to gutsy ;) | 01:07 |
| asac | FUCKED: asac's main desktop | 01:09 |
| gnomefreak | yes F11 gives me full screen and than back to normal | 01:15 |
| gnomefreak | asac: gaim? pideon? | 01:16 |
| gnomefreak | ah your still on feisty yes gaim would have been uninstalled about ubuntu should not have been touched | 01:17 |
| gnomefreak | if it was touched than there is an issue (btw i pulled firefox out of repos well atleast source and 32bit. i will check 64 in a minute | 01:18 |
| gnomefreak | nope its not in 64 binary | 01:20 |
| asac | all was broken | 01:20 |
| asac | i had to install ubuntu-desktop | 01:20 |
| asac | and reboot | 01:20 |
| gnomefreak | hmm thats odd | 01:20 |
| asac | now things are as usual | 01:20 |
| asac | yeah | 01:20 |
| asac | when i installed ubuntu-desktop network-manager came up | 01:21 |
| asac | and tear down my desktop network | 01:21 |
| asac | i couldn't even reboot | 01:21 |
| gnomefreak | ouch | 01:21 |
| asac | hat to hard reset | 01:21 |
| gnomefreak | wth | 01:21 |
| === asac still wonders where the keybindings had gone | ||
| asac | now i can just press f11 to get terminal to fullscreen | 01:21 |
| asac | e.g. for irssi and mutt | 01:21 |
| gnomefreak | keybindings are with -desktop no? | 01:22 |
| asac | i couldn't even open a new terminal tab with ctrl-T | 01:22 |
| gnomefreak | well would have to be a different package | 01:22 |
| asac | aeh ctrl-shift-t that is | 01:22 |
| asac | what the keybinding for gnome-termainL? | 01:22 |
| asac | never had that problem before ... anyway ... troubles are gone ;) | 01:23 |
| gnomefreak | yes they should be in g-term settings i thought | 01:23 |
| asac | maybe gconf was down or something | 01:23 |
| asac | no idea | 01:23 |
| gnomefreak | that is possible | 01:23 |
| gnomefreak | we just had some tool-chain updates but that shouldnt have affected it or you if your on feisty | 01:24 |
| asac | hope there was no tool-chain update in feisty ;) | 01:24 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 01:24 |
| asac | k ... tomorrow i will start to code mobile-browser of future | 01:25 |
| asac | :) | 01:25 |
| gnomefreak | mozilla doesnt use g_thread? | 01:26 |
| asac | no they don't | 01:26 |
| gnomefreak | ummmmm | 01:26 |
| asac | they have their own threading system | 01:26 |
| gnomefreak | that might explain why we have errors it should call that first and its not calling it :)\ | 01:26 |
| asac | why should i link against a new library? | 01:26 |
| asac | i mean ... ok if i use glib thread features then fine | 01:27 |
| asac | but we don't use them | 01:27 |
| gnomefreak | we dont use glib at all? | 01:27 |
| gnomefreak | well the theads | 01:27 |
| asac | we use glib ... but not gthread | 01:27 |
| gnomefreak | oh ok | 01:27 |
| asac | which is a different library | 01:27 |
| gnomefreak | we cant patch something we dont use | 01:27 |
| gnomefreak | that would mean using it or "hiding" things | 01:27 |
| asac | asac@hector:~$ pkg-config --list-all | egrep 'gthread|glib' | 01:28 |
| gnomefreak | example: one patch can be "dont show glib warning" | 01:28 |
| asac | glib-2.0 GLib - C Utility Library | 01:28 |
| asac | gthread-2.0 GThread - Thread support for GLib | 01:28 |
| asac | gnomefreak: the warning doesn't harm | 01:29 |
| asac | as long as we don't see crashes because of that | 01:29 |
| asac | and afaik we don't see them | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | asac: no but it causing extra bugs that we shouldnt have | 01:29 |
| asac | i don't see that | 01:29 |
| asac | i would refer those extra bugs to the general instability of glib development trunk | 01:29 |
| asac | ... which we use | 01:30 |
| asac | atm | 01:30 |
| gnomefreak | i saw atleast one so far. when more people use it more will file | 01:30 |
| asac | bugs posted != bugs exist | 01:30 |
| gnomefreak | you must not have read same bug report on glib as me | 01:30 |
| asac | the fact that people post a bug because of that warning shouldn't bother us | 01:30 |
| asac | yeah ... other applications are definitly hit | 01:31 |
| asac | e.g. those that use gthread ;) | 01:31 |
| gnomefreak | i can mark as a dupe but almost 100% sure it will be removed as dupe | 01:31 |
| asac | please get concrete ... which bugs? | 01:31 |
| gnomefreak | bug 121277 | 01:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121277 in firefox "gusty firefox memory corruption warning" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121277 | 01:31 |
| asac | gnomefreak: atm most important bug in glib is that memory management is broken | 01:31 |
| gnomefreak | bug 50722 | 01:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 50722 in glibc "Memory problems on pthread_cancel()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50722 | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | oh wait no | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | bug 116870 | 01:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 116870 in glib2.0 "[gutsy] GSlice: g_thread_init() Warning messages" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116870 | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | sorry | 01:32 |
| asac | yes ... exactly ... that bug looks related to broken memory management ... not gthread | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | 50722 was a mistake | 01:33 |
| asac | same for that one | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | 116870 is the one i would dupe 121277 | 01:33 |
| asac | people that post the bug always think that its the warning that is the reason for that | 01:33 |
| asac | in fact its broken memory managment ... aka gslice | 01:33 |
| asac | which is not really related imo | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | but it looks as if they are reporting due to warning | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | warning == same | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | * Installing 1 assembly from libndesk-dbus1.0-cil into Mono im not real sure about | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | warnings shouldnt install things | 01:34 |
| asac | hmm | 01:34 |
| asac | yeah | 01:34 |
| asac | its all glib fault | 01:34 |
| asac | should be non of our business | 01:35 |
| gnomefreak | our packages throw same errors - installing part of it | 01:35 |
| asac | its not an error but a warning after all :) | 01:36 |
| gnomefreak | i agree 100% we should ignore them but once gutsy gets to where more people test more warning bugs will arise adn that is what i want to stop before it happens | 01:36 |
| asac | ah ok | 01:37 |
| asac | we can auto-reject those ;) | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | on what grounds? | 01:37 |
| asac | hjmf_ can probably implement that easily | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | we dont use gthread | 01:37 |
| asac | yes | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | oh they are gonna love that. | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | screw it lets do it ;) | 01:37 |
| asac | we can redirect stderr to /dev/null in firefox start script :) | 01:38 |
| gnomefreak | that will hide the warnings | 01:38 |
| asac | yeah ... it will eat everything ;) | 01:38 |
| gnomefreak | true | 01:38 |
| asac | lets wait a bit more | 01:38 |
| asac | i hope that new glib version will bring more stability as new memory managment matures | 01:39 |
| asac | we can review in 2-3 weeks | 01:39 |
| gnomefreak | they already stated this wont be fixed on thier end (it is a new glib already | 01:39 |
| asac | the warning? | 01:39 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 01:40 |
| asac | or the memory management bugs? | 01:40 |
| gnomefreak | warning i know of for sure | 01:40 |
| asac | they will fix the memory management issues ... for sure | 01:40 |
| gnomefreak | btw small font isnt our issue either | 01:40 |
| gnomefreak | saw a bug on it it was one of gnome libs or gconf that causes it | 01:41 |
| asac | in my gutsy install i have really huge fonts ... but afaik its install dependent | 01:41 |
| gnomefreak | i have extreamly small ones | 01:41 |
| asac | yes its dpi detection that is broken | 01:41 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 01:41 |
| gnomefreak | maybe i saw that in -devel | 01:41 |
| asac | you should be able to fix manually if you cannot work anymore | 01:41 |
| gnomefreak | anyway i saw it | 01:41 |
| asac | ... e.g. aask on -desktop | 01:41 |
| asac | but afaik the dpi bug has high prio atm | 01:42 |
| asac | so a fix should land soon | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | we went to differnent dpi um maybe 75 iirc | 01:42 |
| asac | so you say that the ugly fonts in tbird that you saw are related to that? | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes i think so | 01:42 |
| asac | good | 01:42 |
| asac | thats perfect ;) | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | once fixed ill tell you :) | 01:42 |
| asac | just tell me if it isn'*t fixed in tribe-3 | 01:43 |
| asac | as well :) | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | ill let you know ;) no worries | 01:43 |
| asac | otherwise i won't see because for me all looks readable in gutsy | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | monday and on im gonna concern myself with sunbird for most of it until fixed and we can upload | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | than i have to worry if we should reject backporting it (i think we should) as we can use preview to host feisty backports | 01:45 |
| asac | in genreal i would say that we (mt) don't do any backports | 01:45 |
| asac | other than mt preview archive | 01:45 |
| === asac doesn't know anything about how backports work | ||
| gnomefreak | i agree and im agreeing on the basis that we depend on way too many libs and stuff to backport | 01:46 |
| asac | but i think its more like a volunteer efford | 01:46 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ping jdong :) its always worked for me in past | 01:46 |
| gnomefreak | but i ping him and say i have it built lets go for it | 01:47 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yeah ... so redirect people requesting backports to him | 01:47 |
| asac | if he wants to do it ... so be it | 01:47 |
| asac | if he needs help he can always ask ;) | 01:47 |
| gnomefreak | theres a process to go through | 01:47 |
| === gnomefreak gets to skip it | ||
| asac | only thing we might wanna do is backport 2.0 for dapper | 01:47 |
| asac | so we can test how upgrade would break system | 01:48 |
| gnomefreak | either way if backported we get the brunt of the crap anyway | 01:48 |
| asac | hehe | 01:48 |
| asac | right | 01:48 |
| gnomefreak | person builds it and forgets it | 01:48 |
| gnomefreak | all my packages are all over LP | 01:48 |
| asac | for me backport should be something like in debian | 01:49 |
| asac | ... there i don't have to care for it as well | 01:49 |
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| gnomefreak | backports are not supported afaik | 01:49 |
| asac | right | 01:49 |
| asac | e.g. like universe | 01:49 |
| gnomefreak | the packages are well you got em you worry about them | 01:49 |
| asac | which is why someone else should take care | 01:49 |
| gnomefreak | IMNO the what 5-6 people that work on our team have enough crap to deal with | 01:50 |
| asac | right ... and adding more procedures to just get backports is not what we want | 01:50 |
| asac | we can use preview archive for that | 01:50 |
| gnomefreak | correct | 01:50 |
| gnomefreak | i like that better anyway | 01:50 |
| asac | there we need no procedures ... and its obvious that its completely unsupported | 01:51 |
| asac | ... e.g. provided outside ubuntu | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | atleast we know and tested what goes in preview | 01:51 |
| asac | only tradeoff is that we don't have buildds | 01:51 |
| === gnomefreak can spin anything you need on i386 i dont need buildds | ||
| asac | especially for architectures that noone has :) | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | ok point taken | 01:51 |
| asac | maybe we should ask how the ppa thing works | 01:52 |
| asac | that should give us buildds ;) | 01:52 |
| gnomefreak | i was hoping in our post to forums someone would have said hey you need someone to build on ppc | 01:52 |
| gnomefreak | yeah right | 01:52 |
| gnomefreak | we need to be official at that point | 01:53 |
| asac | yes ... but in general, there are not many ppc people out there at all | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | true | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | less sparc i would think | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | but either way we have 386 and 64 | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | screw the rest | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | maybe one day ill get a sparc or ppc (been wanting ppc for a long time) | 01:54 |
| asac | ppc is dying | 01:55 |
| asac | just looking at ebay | 01:55 |
| gnomefreak | yep they went to intel | 01:55 |
| asac | powerbooks are still ridiculous expensive | 01:55 |
| gnomefreak | yes they are | 01:55 |
| gnomefreak | 2000 USD + | 01:55 |
| gnomefreak | for new not sure about used | 01:56 |
| gnomefreak | well new g4's were around that | 01:56 |
| asac | Apple Powerbook 15" G4 1,67 GHz 1,5GB 80GB NEU | 01:56 |
| asac | -> $1k | 01:56 |
| asac | NEU -> NEW | 01:56 |
| gnomefreak | my aunt has a g3 desktop if they ever get rid of it i will get it | 01:57 |
| asac | but 20hours to go | 01:57 |
| gnomefreak | way too much | 01:57 |
| asac | oh damn ... g3 is really slow | 01:57 |
| asac | like 400 mhz ;) | 01:57 |
| gnomefreak | true | 01:57 |
| gnomefreak | it will build just very slowly | 01:57 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 01:57 |
| gnomefreak | i wanted a ppc cause i never got the hang of OSX | 01:58 |
| gnomefreak | wanted something to play with than install ubuntu on it ;) | 01:58 |
| gnomefreak | but as of feisty our ppc ISO's are in ports | 01:59 |
| asac | Apple PowerBook G4 12" | 01:59 |
| asac | that might be interesting | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | 12" | 01:59 |
| asac | 1,5 GHz PowerPC G4 | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | thats a bit small | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | 1.5 is nice | 01:59 |
| asac | actually i consider to get a new notebook with 12'' | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | why so small? | 02:00 |
| asac | because battery will last much longer | 02:00 |
| asac | (at least i hope so) | 02:00 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:00 |
| gnomefreak | not on a mac | 02:00 |
| asac | i want something that i can use for 8 hours or so | 02:00 |
| asac | yeah ... looked at dell | 02:00 |
| asac | the one i was looking for was 1350 EUR | 02:00 |
| asac | so about $1800 ? | 02:00 |
| gnomefreak | about that | 02:00 |
| asac | no idea what exchange rate is | 02:00 |
| gnomefreak | maybe a bit more | 02:00 |
| asac | atm | 02:00 |
| asac | ... pretty expensive though | 02:01 |
| asac | but it has duo core | 02:01 |
| gnomefreak | yes very | 02:01 |
| asac | and 2gb memorey | 02:01 |
| asac | and extended battery | 02:01 |
| asac | unfortunately win XP | 02:01 |
| asac | without option top drop that crap | 02:01 |
| asac | gnomefreak: have you looked if the dell us systems with ubuntu come with discount vs. windows install? | 02:02 |
| gnomefreak | 100 USD give or take | 02:02 |
| asac | discount? | 02:02 |
| asac | cool | 02:02 |
| gnomefreak | 1 350 Euros = 1 818.855 U.S. dollars | 02:02 |
| asac | thats great | 02:02 |
| asac | i cannot get something like that over here | 02:03 |
| asac | e.g. without windows :/ | 02:03 |
| gnomefreak | they are about $400 USD for the laptop with ubuntu | 02:03 |
| === gnomefreak has already seen installing issues on those | ||
| gnomefreak | it was the same model but with windows installed trying to install ubuntu | 02:03 |
| asac | so no discount? | 02:04 |
| gnomefreak | e1505 i think is the model with ubuntu 1505 is windows | 02:04 |
| gnomefreak | 100 dollars differnece from win to ubuntu | 02:04 |
| asac | but win installed in the beginning? | 02:04 |
| asac | or do you mean if you want to install ubuntu on your own | 02:04 |
| asac | there are install issues? | 02:04 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 02:05 |
| asac | e.g. on original windows system | 02:05 |
| asac | ah ok | 02:05 |
| gnomefreak | right | 02:05 |
| asac | now dell offeres a 13,3'' notebook | 02:05 |
| gnomefreak | e1505 | 02:05 |
| === gnomefreak waits | ||
| gnomefreak | 20:04 <ubotu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 321, column 84 | 02:06 |
| asac | hmmm there was an advertisement on their site | 02:06 |
| asac | but i cannot find the produkt :(/ | 02:06 |
| asac | OS: "Original Windows Vista Home Premium (32 Bit) - Deutsch" | 02:07 |
| asac | argh | 02:07 |
| asac | i hate german things (deutsch) | 02:07 |
| asac | and i hate vista | 02:07 |
| asac | i cannot even get a laptop with US keyboard layout here | 02:07 |
| asac | its just depressing | 02:07 |
| asac | i will sue germany for not getting a good keyboard layout that doesn't break my wrists | 02:08 |
| asac | ... for programmers | 02:08 |
| gnomefreak | asac: order one from US :) | 02:08 |
| asac | i can't | 02:09 |
| asac | dell doesn't allow me to get to their us site | 02:09 |
| asac | the world is just too ignorant for me | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:09 |
| asac | yeah ... i even get "Microsoft Works 8.5 - Deutsch" | 02:12 |
| asac | :) | 02:12 |
| asac | most sucky thing in the world | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | 8.5 | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | i think we have only 8.0 or 9.0 or 7.0 | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think we have .5 | 02:13 |
| asac | and of course : "Interne leichte Tastatur - Deutsch (QWERTZ)" | 02:13 |
| asac | "internal light keyboard - german" | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | sweet | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | i want one | 02:13 |
| asac | note that its "internal" :-P | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | i know :) | 02:14 |
| asac | most noteworthy | 02:14 |
| asac | but hey they get a clue: "Ohne Modem" - "without modem" :) | 02:14 |
| asac | wow | 02:14 |
| asac | and they find it sad that i didn't select a "biometrisches Fingerabdruck-Lesegert" - "biometrical fingerprint reader" | 02:15 |
| asac | how unfortunate | 02:15 |
| asac | :) | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | you do know its 2am in germany (where you are) | 02:15 |
| asac | sure | 02:15 |
| asac | i slept till 1200 :) | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | if you shop dont blame me when GF asks wtf you were shopping for | 02:15 |
| asac | hehe | 02:16 |
| asac | ;) | 02:16 |
| asac | i won't shop | 02:16 |
| === gnomefreak needs a new pc one of these days | ||
| asac | i don't give people my money that are doing monkey business | 02:16 |
| asac | fortunately you can buy parts ... and its not much more expensive than a ready to use pc | 02:17 |
| asac | for laptops you cannot do taht | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | for this desktop i cant buy memory for it | 02:17 |
| asac | i mean ... getting a board with a integrated intel video chip + memory + hd + prozessor -> done | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | way way too much for pc800 | 02:18 |
| asac | yeah i know | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | thats an idea if i knew how to put a MB in (but i can learn) | 02:18 |
| asac | its really simple | 02:18 |
| asac | if you don't mind to loose your current system you probably don't need a case | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | bios better be installed than | 02:19 |
| asac | ASUS P5B-VM G965 | 02:19 |
| asac | is a good board ... which i plan to buy for my gf | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | asus + ubuntu == bad i hear | 02:19 |
| asac | it has a recent intel graphics chip ... which can play 3d-games :) | 02:20 |
| asac | hmm | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | model i dont know | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | intels are getting good | 02:20 |
| asac | Intel GMA X3000, Intel Clear Video Technology | 02:20 |
| asac | thats the video chip i am looking for | 02:20 |
| asac | X3100 exists as well | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | that has got to be nice since most of the are ~955 | 02:21 |
| asac | haven't found much desktop MB that have those new intel chips so far | 02:21 |
| asac | yeah ... i think X3xxx is a real step forward ... and has pretty great linux support | 02:21 |
| === gnomefreak finds MB with nvidia chips | ||
| asac | and MB is pretty cheap | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | and im scared of new 6600 > 7300 | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | they also dont like to run in ubuntu | 02:22 |
| asac | if you want to get a board with on-board graphics use intel please | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | or was it 6800 | 02:22 |
| asac | don't give money to people that are ignorant | 02:22 |
| asac | and don't open specs | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | intel has free drivers dont they | 02:22 |
| asac | i think intel specs are not completely open either... but at leasat parts of it | 02:22 |
| asac | they have merged them to kernel tree | 02:22 |
| asac | e.g. so yes ... they are really free | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | oh sweet | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | thats an idea than | 02:23 |
| asac | which is why i won't go for on-board ati/nvidia | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | nvidia has done me well for being less than 50.00 USD | 02:23 |
| asac | for the card ... or whole mb? | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | card | 02:24 |
| asac | ah ok | 02:24 |
| asac | i think the board above is about 60 EUR | 02:24 |
| asac | you can get one with older intel graphics for 40 | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | yeah its above 100 easy here | 02:24 |
| asac | hmm wierd .. i wouldn't expect the prices to really follow exchange rate | 02:24 |
| === gnomefreak hates to have to buy a P4 + mem + MB though | ||
| asac | yeah ... but say you have 100 MB + 100 CPU + 150 MEM + 100 HD :) ... pretty cheap ;) | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | P4 == 300+ | 02:25 |
| asac | P4? | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | pentium 4 | 02:25 |
| asac | P4 doesn't exist anymore | 02:25 |
| asac | her | 02:25 |
| asac | e | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | i have one | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | what is it now celeron? | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | or duo core | 02:26 |
| asac | AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ EE | 02:26 |
| asac | Windsor 2x2.0GHz TRAY | 02:26 |
| asac | thats for 70 EUR | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | thats not bad | 02:26 |
| asac | though you need a fan for that ... but boxed is probably 5-10 EUR more | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | than a board to put it on | 02:26 |
| asac | Intel Celeron D331 2.66GHz BOX 256KB | 02:26 |
| asac | thats 30 EUR | 02:26 |
| asac | Intel Celeron D346 3.06GHz BOX 256KB | 02:27 |
| asac | thats 47 | 02:27 |
| gnomefreak | thats about 100 here i think | 02:27 |
| asac | Intel Core2 Duo E4300 2x1.8GHz TRAY 2MB | 02:27 |
| gnomefreak | maybe 70 | 02:27 |
| asac | thats 100 EUR | 02:27 |
| asac | core2 is pretty expensive | 02:27 |
| asac | don't know if its really worth it | 02:27 |
| asac | imo amd x2 are better in price | 02:27 |
| asac | maybe this one i interesting: | 02:28 |
| asac | Intel Pentium D805 2x2.66GHz BOX 2MB Dual Core | 02:28 |
| asac | 85 EUR | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | 100EUR == 134.73 | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | thats it | 02:28 |
| asac | yes | 02:28 |
| asac | atm :) | 02:28 |
| asac | wait another year and it will be 150 | 02:28 |
| asac | :) | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | yeah no kidding | 02:28 |
| asac | it was 100EUR = 70 ... about 4 years ago | 02:29 |
| asac | but then came mr. bush | 02:29 |
| gnomefreak | it changes so often but that isnt the prices over here that is price if i went there | 02:29 |
| asac | taking in zillions of debts ;) | 02:29 |
| asac | i think U.S. took debt in one single year for war on terror that was about half of germany GDP | 02:30 |
| asac | but probably off topic ;) | 02:31 |
| asac | wow ... Intel Core2 Quad Extreme QX6800 4x2.93GHz TRAY -> 1.130 EUR | 02:31 |
| asac | aeh 1198 | 02:31 |
| asac | amazing | 02:31 |
| asac | anyway :) | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | AMD Athlon 64 3800-X2 Socket-AM2 105.00 | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | im gone for the night i need to get ready for bed 4am comes fast | 02:33 |
| asac | 4am? | 02:34 |
| asac | whats then? | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | wake up time | 02:34 |
| asac | btw, i found us ubuntu site | 02:34 |
| asac | why so early? its sunday | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | you did? | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | laying sod | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | unless it rains | 02:35 |
| === asac looking what sod is | ||
| asac | oh ... sounds like hard work | 02:35 |
| gnomefreak | sorry | 02:35 |
| gnomefreak | grass | 02:35 |
| asac | yeah | 02:35 |
| gnomefreak | sod == precut grass | 02:35 |
| asac | no problem ... like to learn new words | 02:35 |
| asac | yeah ... like you can roll it out? | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 02:36 |
| asac | i think there is a similar german word for it | 02:36 |
| asac | like gras-sohle | 02:36 |
| asac | sohle -> sod (somehow) | 02:36 |
| asac | but unsure | 02:36 |
| asac | ok .. then good night ... get some sleep | 02:36 |
| asac | cu tomorrow | 02:36 |
| asac | lets see if dell ships to germany | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | cu tomorrow | 02:36 |
| asac | :) | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | night | 02:36 |
| asac | hehe i think i will take "Flamingo Pink " color :) | 02:37 |
| asac | night | 02:37 |
| asac | they don't ship to germany :( | 02:41 |
| asac | ok out :/ | 02:41 |
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