[12:54] <asac> yeah ... this g_thread_init thing is unreasonable
[12:55] <asac> mozilla doesn't use g_thread library at all
[12:55] <asac> mozillais probably willing to patch it if we come up with a patch :)
[12:56] <asac> gnomefreak: there is no upstream report for it because we are using bleeding edge glib ... which noone else does
[01:04] <asac> btw, does pressing F11 in gnome terminal bring it to full screen for you?
[01:04] <asac> it always did ... but now i returned home and it doesn't work anymore
[01:05] <asac> something really wierd is going on here
[01:05] <asac> gaim has disappeared from menu as well
[01:05] <asac> i mean before i left it always booted up on X startup ... together with gajim
[01:05] <asac> now gaim isn't in menu anymore
[01:06] <asac> system -> about ubuntu disappeared as well
[01:06] <asac> i just have about gnome
[01:07] <asac> gaim is really uninstalled :/
[01:07] <asac> hmmm maybe it happened when i tried to install out firefox package here in feisty
[01:07] <asac> hmm
[01:07] <asac> maybe time to upgrade to gutsy ;)
[01:09] <asac> FUCKED: asac's main desktop
[01:15] <gnomefreak> yes F11 gives me full screen and than back to normal
[01:16] <gnomefreak> asac: gaim? pideon?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> ah your still on feisty yes gaim would have been uninstalled about ubuntu should not have been touched
[01:18] <gnomefreak> if it was touched than there is an issue (btw i pulled firefox out of repos well atleast source and 32bit. i will check 64 in a minute
[01:20] <gnomefreak> nope its not in 64 binary
[01:20] <asac> all was broken
[01:20] <asac> i had to install ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <asac> and reboot
[01:20] <gnomefreak> hmm thats odd
[01:20] <asac> now things are as usual
[01:20] <asac> yeah
[01:21] <asac> when i installed ubuntu-desktop network-manager came up
[01:21] <asac> and tear down my desktop network
[01:21] <asac> i couldn't even reboot
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ouch
[01:21] <asac> hat to hard reset
[01:21] <gnomefreak> wth
[01:21] <asac> now i can just press f11 to get terminal to fullscreen
[01:21] <asac> e.g. for irssi and mutt
[01:22] <gnomefreak> keybindings are with -desktop no?
[01:22] <asac> i couldn't even open a new terminal tab with ctrl-T
[01:22] <gnomefreak> well would have to be a different package
[01:22] <asac> aeh ctrl-shift-t that is
[01:22] <asac> what the keybinding for gnome-termainL?
[01:23] <asac> never had that problem before ... anyway ... troubles are gone ;)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> yes they should be in g-term settings i thought
[01:23] <asac> maybe gconf was down or something
[01:23] <asac> no idea
[01:23] <gnomefreak> that is possible
[01:24] <gnomefreak> we just had some tool-chain updates but that shouldnt have affected it or you if your on feisty
[01:24] <asac> hope there was no tool-chain update in feisty ;)
[01:24] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:25] <asac> k ... tomorrow i will start to code mobile-browser of future
[01:25] <asac> :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> mozilla doesnt use g_thread?
[01:26] <asac> no they don't
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ummmmm
[01:26] <asac> they have their own threading system
[01:26] <gnomefreak> that might explain why we have errors it should call that first and its not calling it :)\
[01:26] <asac> why should i link against a new library?
[01:27] <asac> i mean ... ok if i use glib thread features then fine
[01:27] <asac> but we don't use them
[01:27] <gnomefreak> we dont use glib at all?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> well the theads
[01:27] <asac> we use glib ... but not gthread
[01:27] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[01:27] <asac> which is a different library
[01:27] <gnomefreak> we cant patch something we dont use
[01:27] <gnomefreak> that would mean using it or "hiding" things
[01:28] <asac> asac@hector:~$ pkg-config --list-all | egrep 'gthread|glib'
[01:28] <gnomefreak> example: one patch can be "dont show glib warning"
[01:28] <asac> glib-2.0                    GLib - C Utility Library
[01:28] <asac> gthread-2.0                 GThread - Thread support for GLib
[01:29] <asac> gnomefreak: the warning doesn't harm
[01:29] <asac> as long as we don't see crashes because of that
[01:29] <asac> and afaik we don't see them
[01:29] <gnomefreak> asac: no but it causing extra bugs that we shouldnt have
[01:29] <asac> i don't see that
[01:29] <asac> i would refer those extra bugs to the general instability of glib development trunk
[01:30] <asac> ... which we use
[01:30] <asac> atm
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i saw atleast one so far. when more people use it more will file
[01:30] <asac> bugs posted != bugs exist
[01:30] <gnomefreak> you must not have read same bug report on glib as me
[01:30] <asac> the fact that people post a bug because of that warning shouldn't bother us
[01:31] <asac> yeah ... other applications are definitly hit
[01:31] <asac> e.g. those that use gthread ;)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> i can mark as a dupe but almost 100% sure it will be removed as dupe
[01:31] <asac> please get concrete ... which bugs?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> bug 121277
[01:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121277 in firefox "gusty firefox memory corruption warning" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121277
[01:31] <asac> gnomefreak: atm most important bug in glib is that memory management is broken
[01:32] <gnomefreak> bug 50722
[01:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 50722 in glibc "Memory problems on pthread_cancel()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50722
[01:32] <gnomefreak> oh wait no
[01:32] <gnomefreak> bug 116870
[01:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116870 in glib2.0 "[gutsy]  GSlice: g_thread_init() Warning messages" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116870
[01:32] <gnomefreak> sorry
[01:32] <asac> yes ... exactly ... that bug looks related to broken memory management ... not gthread
[01:33] <gnomefreak> 50722 was a mistake
[01:33] <asac> same for that one
[01:33] <gnomefreak> 116870 is the one i would dupe 121277
[01:33] <asac> people that post the bug always think that its the warning that is the reason for that
[01:33] <asac> in fact its broken memory managment ... aka gslice
[01:33] <asac> which is not really related imo
[01:33] <gnomefreak> but it looks as if they are reporting due to warning
[01:34] <gnomefreak> warning == same
[01:34] <gnomefreak> * Installing 1 assembly from libndesk-dbus1.0-cil into Mono   im not real sure about
[01:34] <gnomefreak> warnings shouldnt install things
[01:34] <asac> hmm
[01:34] <asac> yeah
[01:34] <asac> its all glib fault
[01:35] <asac> should be non of our business
[01:35] <gnomefreak> our packages throw same errors - installing part of it
[01:36] <asac> its not an error but a warning after all :)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> i agree 100% we should ignore them but once gutsy gets to where more people test more warning bugs will arise adn that is what i want to stop before it happens
[01:37] <asac> ah ok
[01:37] <asac> we can auto-reject those ;)
[01:37] <gnomefreak> on what grounds?
[01:37] <asac> hjmf_ can probably implement that easily
[01:37] <gnomefreak> we dont use gthread
[01:37] <asac> yes
[01:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:37] <gnomefreak> oh they are gonna love that.
[01:37] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:37] <gnomefreak> screw it lets do it ;)
[01:38] <asac> we can redirect stderr to /dev/null in firefox start script :)
[01:38] <gnomefreak> that will hide the warnings
[01:38] <asac> yeah ... it will eat everything ;)
[01:38] <gnomefreak> true
[01:38] <asac> lets wait a bit more
[01:39] <asac> i hope that new glib version will bring more stability as new memory managment matures
[01:39] <asac> we can review in 2-3 weeks
[01:39] <gnomefreak> they already stated this wont be fixed on thier end (it is a new glib already
[01:39] <asac> the warning?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:40] <asac> or the memory management bugs?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> warning i know of for sure
[01:40] <asac> they will fix the memory management issues ... for sure
[01:40] <gnomefreak> btw small font isnt our issue either
[01:41] <gnomefreak> saw a bug on it it was one of gnome libs or gconf that causes it
[01:41] <asac> in my gutsy install i have really huge fonts ... but afaik its install dependent
[01:41] <gnomefreak> i have extreamly small ones
[01:41] <asac> yes its dpi detection that is broken
[01:41] <gnomefreak> yeah
[01:41] <gnomefreak> maybe i saw that in -devel
[01:41] <asac> you should be able to fix manually if you cannot work anymore
[01:41] <gnomefreak> anyway i saw it
[01:41] <asac> ... e.g. aask on -desktop
[01:42] <asac> but afaik the dpi bug has high prio atm
[01:42] <asac> so a fix should land soon
[01:42] <gnomefreak> yep
[01:42] <gnomefreak> we went to differnent dpi um maybe 75 iirc
[01:42] <asac> so you say that the ugly fonts in tbird that you saw are related to that?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> asac: yes i think so
[01:42] <asac> good
[01:42] <asac> thats perfect ;)
[01:42] <gnomefreak> once fixed ill tell you :)
[01:43] <asac> just tell me if it isn'*t fixed in tribe-3
[01:43] <asac> as well :)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ill let you know ;) no worries
[01:43] <asac> otherwise i won't see because for me all looks readable in gutsy
[01:44] <gnomefreak> monday and on im gonna concern myself with sunbird for most of it until fixed and we can upload
[01:45] <gnomefreak> than i have to worry if we should reject backporting it (i think we should) as we can use preview to host feisty backports
[01:45] <asac> in genreal i would say that we (mt) don't do any backports
[01:45] <asac> other than mt preview archive
[01:46] <gnomefreak> i agree and im agreeing on the basis that we depend on way too many libs and stuff to backport
[01:46] <asac> but i think its more like a volunteer efford
[01:46] <gnomefreak> asac: ping jdong :) its always worked for me in past
[01:47] <gnomefreak> but i ping him and say i have it built lets go for it
[01:47] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... so redirect people requesting backports to him
[01:47] <asac> if he wants to do it ... so be it
[01:47] <asac> if he needs help he can always ask ;)
[01:47] <gnomefreak> theres a process to  go through
[01:47] <asac> only thing we might wanna do is backport 2.0 for dapper
[01:48] <asac> so we can test how upgrade would break system
[01:48] <gnomefreak> either way if backported we get the brunt of the crap anyway
[01:48] <asac> hehe
[01:48] <asac> right
[01:48] <gnomefreak> person builds it and forgets it
[01:48] <gnomefreak> all my packages are all over LP
[01:49] <asac> for me backport should be something like in debian
[01:49] <asac> ... there i don't have to care for it as well
[01:49] <gnomefreak> backports are not supported afaik
[01:49] <asac> right
[01:49] <asac> e.g. like universe
[01:49] <gnomefreak> the packages are well you got em you worry about them
[01:49] <asac> which is why someone else should take care
[01:50] <gnomefreak> IMNO the what 5-6 people that work on our team have enough crap to deal with
[01:50] <asac> right ... and adding more procedures to just get backports is not what we want
[01:50] <asac> we can use preview archive for that
[01:50] <gnomefreak> correct
[01:50] <gnomefreak> i like that better anyway
[01:51] <asac> there we need no procedures ... and its obvious that its completely unsupported
[01:51] <asac> ... e.g. provided outside ubuntu
[01:51] <gnomefreak> atleast we know and tested what goes in preview
[01:51] <asac> only tradeoff is that we don't have buildds
[01:51] <asac> especially for architectures that noone has :)
[01:51] <gnomefreak> ok point taken
[01:52] <asac> maybe we should ask how the ppa thing works
[01:52] <asac> that should give us buildds ;)
[01:52] <gnomefreak> i was hoping in our post to forums someone would have said hey you need someone to build on ppc
[01:52] <gnomefreak> yeah right
[01:53] <gnomefreak> we need to be official at that point
[01:53] <asac> yes ... but in general, there are not many ppc people out there at all
[01:53] <gnomefreak> true
[01:53] <gnomefreak> less sparc i would think
[01:53] <gnomefreak> but either way we have 386 and 64
[01:53] <gnomefreak> screw the rest
[01:54] <gnomefreak> maybe one day ill get a sparc or ppc (been wanting ppc for a long time)
[01:55] <asac> ppc is dying
[01:55] <asac> just looking at ebay
[01:55] <gnomefreak> yep they went to intel
[01:55] <asac> powerbooks are still ridiculous expensive
[01:55] <gnomefreak> yes they are
[01:55] <gnomefreak> 2000 USD +
[01:56] <gnomefreak> for new  not sure about used
[01:56] <gnomefreak> well new g4's were around that
[01:56] <asac> Apple Powerbook 15" G4 1,67 GHz 1,5GB 80GB NEU
[01:56] <asac> -> $1k
[01:56] <asac> NEU -> NEW
[01:57] <gnomefreak> my aunt has a g3 desktop if they ever get rid of it i will get it
[01:57] <asac> but 20hours to go
[01:57] <gnomefreak> way too much
[01:57] <asac> oh damn ... g3 is really slow
[01:57] <asac> like 400 mhz ;)
[01:57] <gnomefreak> true
[01:57] <gnomefreak> it will build just very slowly
[01:57] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> i wanted a ppc cause i never got the hang of OSX
[01:58] <gnomefreak> wanted something to play with than install ubuntu on it ;)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> but as of feisty our ppc ISO's are in ports
[01:59] <asac> Apple PowerBook G4 12"
[01:59] <asac> that might be interesting
[01:59] <gnomefreak> 12"
[01:59] <asac> 1,5 GHz PowerPC G4
[01:59] <gnomefreak> thats a bit small
[01:59] <gnomefreak> 1.5 is nice
[01:59] <asac> actually i consider to get a new notebook with 12''
[02:00] <gnomefreak> why so small?
[02:00] <asac> because battery will last much longer
[02:00] <asac> (at least i hope so)
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:00] <gnomefreak> not on a mac
[02:00] <asac> i want something that i can use for 8 hours or so
[02:00] <asac> yeah ... looked at dell
[02:00] <asac> the one i was looking for was 1350 EUR
[02:00] <asac> so about $1800 ?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> about that
[02:00] <asac> no idea what exchange rate is
[02:00] <gnomefreak> maybe a bit more
[02:00] <asac> atm
[02:01] <asac> ... pretty expensive though
[02:01] <asac> but it has duo core
[02:01] <gnomefreak> yes very
[02:01] <asac> and 2gb memorey
[02:01] <asac> and extended battery
[02:01] <asac> unfortunately win XP
[02:01] <asac> without option top drop that crap
[02:02] <asac> gnomefreak: have you looked if the dell us systems with ubuntu come with discount vs. windows install?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> 100 USD give or take
[02:02] <asac> discount?
[02:02] <asac> cool
[02:02] <gnomefreak> 1 350 Euros = 1 818.855 U.S. dollars
[02:02] <asac> thats great
[02:03] <asac> i cannot get something like that over here
[02:03] <asac> e.g. without windows :/
[02:03] <gnomefreak> they are about $400 USD for the laptop with ubuntu
[02:03] <gnomefreak> it was the same model but with windows installed trying to install ubuntu
[02:04] <asac> so no discount?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> e1505 i think is the model with ubuntu 1505 is windows
[02:04] <gnomefreak> 100 dollars differnece from win to ubuntu
[02:04] <asac> but win installed in the beginning?
[02:04] <asac> or do you mean if you want to install ubuntu on your own
[02:04] <asac> there are install issues?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> yes
[02:05] <asac> e.g. on original windows system
[02:05] <asac> ah ok
[02:05] <gnomefreak> right
[02:05] <asac> now dell offeres a 13,3'' notebook
[02:05] <gnomefreak> e1505
[02:06] <gnomefreak> 20:04 <ubotu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not  well-formed (invalid token): line 321, column 84
[02:06] <asac> hmmm there was an advertisement on their site
[02:06] <asac> but i cannot find the produkt :(/
[02:07] <asac> OS: "Original Windows Vista Home Premium (32 Bit) - Deutsch"
[02:07] <asac> argh
[02:07] <asac> i hate german things (deutsch)
[02:07] <asac> and i hate vista
[02:07] <asac> i cannot even get a laptop with US keyboard layout here
[02:07] <asac> its just depressing
[02:08] <asac> i will sue germany for not getting a good keyboard layout that doesn't break my wrists
[02:08] <asac> ... for programmers
[02:08] <gnomefreak> asac: order one from US :)
[02:09] <asac> i can't
[02:09] <asac> dell doesn't allow me to get to their us site
[02:09] <asac> the world is just too ignorant for me
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:12] <asac> yeah ... i even get "Microsoft Works 8.5 - Deutsch"
[02:12] <asac> :)
[02:13] <asac> most sucky thing in the world
[02:13] <gnomefreak> 8.5
[02:13] <gnomefreak> i think we have only 8.0 or 9.0 or 7.0
[02:13] <gnomefreak> i dont think we have .5
[02:13] <asac> and of course : "Interne leichte Tastatur - Deutsch (QWERTZ)"
[02:13] <asac> "internal light keyboard - german"
[02:13] <gnomefreak> sweet
[02:13] <gnomefreak> i want one
[02:14] <asac> note that its "internal" :-P
[02:14] <gnomefreak> i know :)
[02:14] <asac> most noteworthy
[02:14] <asac> but hey they get a clue: "Ohne Modem" - "without modem" :)
[02:14] <asac> wow
[02:15] <asac> and they find it sad that i didn't select a "biometrisches Fingerabdruck-Lesegert" - "biometrical fingerprint reader"
[02:15] <asac> how unfortunate
[02:15] <asac> :)
[02:15] <gnomefreak> you do know its 2am in germany (where you are)
[02:15] <asac> sure
[02:15] <asac> i slept till 1200 :)
[02:15] <gnomefreak> if you shop dont blame me when GF asks wtf you were shopping for
[02:16] <asac> hehe
[02:16] <asac> ;)
[02:16] <asac> i won't shop
[02:16] <asac> i don't give people my money that are doing monkey business
[02:17] <asac> fortunately you can buy parts ... and its not much more expensive than a ready to use pc
[02:17] <asac> for laptops you cannot do taht
[02:17] <gnomefreak> for this desktop i cant buy memory for it
[02:18] <asac> i mean ... getting a board with a integrated intel video chip + memory + hd + prozessor -> done
[02:18] <gnomefreak> way way too much for pc800
[02:18] <asac> yeah i know
[02:18] <gnomefreak> thats an idea if i knew how to put a MB in (but i can learn)
[02:18] <asac> its really simple
[02:19] <asac> if you don't mind to loose your current system you probably don't need a case
[02:19] <gnomefreak> bios better be installed than
[02:19] <asac>  ASUS P5B-VM G965
[02:19] <asac> is a good board ... which i plan to buy for my gf
[02:19] <gnomefreak> asus + ubuntu == bad i hear
[02:20] <asac> it has a recent intel graphics chip ... which can play 3d-games :)
[02:20] <asac> hmm
[02:20] <gnomefreak> model i dont know
[02:20] <gnomefreak> intels are getting good
[02:20] <asac> Intel GMA X3000, Intel Clear Video Technology
[02:20] <asac> thats the video chip i am looking for
[02:20] <asac> X3100 exists as well
[02:21] <gnomefreak> that has got to be nice since most of the are ~955
[02:21] <asac> haven't found much desktop MB that have those new intel chips so far
[02:21] <asac> yeah ... i think X3xxx is a real step forward ... and has pretty great linux support
[02:21] <asac> and MB is pretty cheap
[02:21] <gnomefreak> and im scared of new 6600 > 7300
[02:22] <gnomefreak> they also dont like to run in ubuntu
[02:22] <asac> if you want to get a board with on-board graphics use intel please
[02:22] <gnomefreak> or was it 6800
[02:22] <asac> don't give money to people that are ignorant
[02:22] <asac> and don't open specs
[02:22] <gnomefreak> intel has free drivers dont they
[02:22] <asac> i think intel specs are not completely open either... but at leasat parts of it
[02:22] <asac> they have merged them to kernel tree
[02:23] <asac> e.g. so yes ... they are really free
[02:23] <gnomefreak> oh sweet
[02:23] <gnomefreak> thats an idea than
[02:23] <asac> which is why i won't go for on-board ati/nvidia
[02:23] <gnomefreak> nvidia has done me well for being less than 50.00 USD
[02:23] <asac> for the card ... or whole mb?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> card
[02:24] <asac> ah ok
[02:24] <asac> i think the board above is about 60 EUR
[02:24] <asac> you can get one with older intel graphics for 40
[02:24] <gnomefreak> yeah its above 100 easy here
[02:24] <asac> hmm wierd .. i wouldn't expect the prices to really follow exchange rate
[02:25] <asac> yeah ... but say you have 100 MB + 100 CPU + 150 MEM + 100 HD :) ... pretty cheap ;)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> P4 == 300+
[02:25] <asac> P4?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> pentium 4
[02:25] <asac> P4 doesn't exist anymore
[02:25] <asac> her
[02:25] <asac> e
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i have one
[02:25] <gnomefreak> what is it now celeron?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> or duo core
[02:26] <asac> AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ EE
[02:26] <asac> Windsor 2x2.0GHz TRAY
[02:26] <asac> thats for 70 EUR
[02:26] <gnomefreak> thats not bad
[02:26] <asac> though you need a fan for that ... but boxed is probably 5-10 EUR more
[02:26] <gnomefreak> than a board to put it on
[02:26] <asac>  Intel Celeron D331 2.66GHz BOX 256KB
[02:26] <asac> thats 30 EUR
[02:27] <asac>  Intel Celeron D346 3.06GHz BOX 256KB
[02:27] <asac> thats 47
[02:27] <gnomefreak> thats about 100 here i think
[02:27] <asac> Intel Core2 Duo E4300 2x1.8GHz TRAY 2MB
[02:27] <gnomefreak> maybe 70
[02:27] <asac> thats 100 EUR
[02:27] <asac> core2 is pretty expensive
[02:27] <asac> don't know if its really worth it
[02:27] <asac> imo amd x2 are better in price
[02:28] <asac> maybe this one i interesting:
[02:28] <asac>  Intel Pentium D805 2x2.66GHz BOX 2MB Dual Core
[02:28] <asac> 85 EUR
[02:28] <gnomefreak> 100EUR == 134.73
[02:28] <gnomefreak> thats it
[02:28] <asac> yes
[02:28] <asac> atm :)
[02:28] <asac> wait another year and it will be 150
[02:28] <asac> :)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> yeah no kidding
[02:29] <asac> it was 100EUR = 70 ... about 4 years ago
[02:29] <asac> but then came mr. bush
[02:29] <gnomefreak> it changes so often but that isnt the prices over here that is price if i went there
[02:29] <asac> taking in zillions of debts ;)
[02:30] <asac> i think U.S. took debt in one single year for war on terror that was about half of germany GDP
[02:31] <asac> but probably off topic ;)
[02:31] <asac> wow ...  Intel Core2 Quad Extreme QX6800 4x2.93GHz TRAY -> 1.130 EUR
[02:31] <asac> aeh 1198
[02:31] <asac> amazing
[02:32] <asac> anyway :)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> AMD Athlon 64 3800-X2 Socket-AM2 105.00
[02:33] <gnomefreak> im gone for the night i need to get ready for bed 4am comes fast
[02:34] <asac> 4am?
[02:34] <asac> whats then?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> wake up time
[02:34] <asac> btw, i found us ubuntu site
[02:34] <asac> why so early? its sunday
[02:34] <gnomefreak> you did?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> laying sod
[02:35] <gnomefreak> unless it rains
[02:35] <asac> oh ... sounds like hard work
[02:35] <gnomefreak> sorry
[02:35] <gnomefreak> grass
[02:35] <asac> yeah
[02:35] <gnomefreak> sod == precut grass
[02:35] <asac> no problem ... like to learn new words
[02:36] <asac> yeah ... like you can roll it out?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> yep
[02:36] <asac> i think there is a similar german word for it
[02:36] <asac> like gras-sohle
[02:36] <asac> sohle -> sod (somehow)
[02:36] <asac> but unsure
[02:36] <asac> ok .. then good night ... get some sleep
[02:36] <asac> cu tomorrow
[02:36] <asac> lets see if dell ships to germany
[02:36] <gnomefreak> cu tomorrow
[02:36] <asac> :)
[02:36] <gnomefreak> night
[02:37] <asac> hehe i think i will take "Flamingo Pink " color :)
[02:37] <asac> night
[02:41] <asac> they don't ship to germany :(
[02:41] <asac> ok out :/
[03:29] <dimas__> hello