=== TaJMoX [n=TaJMoX@unaffiliated/tajmox] has joined #xubuntu === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [12:43] can someone please tell me I'm nuts and that KDE does not use 700MB? [12:43] 700MB ram that is === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] n8 === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [12:59] hiya vidd [12:59] eagle-101, it will depending on what you have running its recommended rem is 512MB but will run on less [01:00] Jester45, mmm I had nothing running, but it looks like it was buffer stuff [01:02] I was kinda shocked though O.o [01:02] eagle-101, im using 800mb and im on xfce, xfce isnt using it all but im still using it [01:02] Jester45, yeah I know [01:02] I thought at the KDE startup, it was using 700MB and I was freaking out :P === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:03] generally thats firefox's role :) === bart_17 [n=youandme@124.106.139.182] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:14] i agree [01:15] i think the kernel leaves everything in the ram untill it needs the rooms then it will wrightover the most unused [01:15] so that if something is used then closed then open its all ready buffers [01:15] but i might be wrong [01:16] Jester that looks like how kde is set up [01:16] to read that to me, on xfce it does not, though I could be wrong and it is only showing me what is actually in use === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] though I find it interesting that I can pick whatever windowmanager I please :0 [01:18] in that regards, ubuntu has windows beat badly [01:18] there would be no difference, thats all kernel stuff [01:19] Jester45, yeah that is what I'm thinking :) [01:19] looks like xfce only shows the amount of ram that is being actively used [01:19] yea each new version to me makes ubuntu more windows like (for a less impact from converts) and xubuntu gets heavier and kde just bloats more [01:20] oh heck synaptic works in kde [01:20] eagle-101, run top and they will be the same [01:20] Jester45, heh that I see as well, but it does allow ubuntu to compete with windows [01:20] kde just shows a diffrent way, like used and xfce shows active or something [01:20] I have gentoo on my other partition, and to be honest, I would not give that distro to my grandma :) [01:21] though I wish xfce would quit getting larger :( [01:22] i hate manager [01:22] s [01:22] Jester45, mmm window managers? or synaptic? [01:22] and i love option [01:22] oh my favorite package manager is definatly portage [01:22] managers for settings or other things wm are good and i dislike synaptic [01:23] oh ;0 [01:23] apt for me [01:23] ah :) [01:23] no rpm :) [01:23] heh :) [01:23] most commonly built one but its so stupid [01:23] portage is the best I've ever used [01:24] it takes to long to update the list, umm idk what the comamnd it but its like apt's apt-get update [01:25] Jester45, heh, its not so bad though you are right that part takes longer (but I have it on a crontab ;) ) [01:26] Ok, I'm off to try flux box, kde is not my thing :) [01:26] :) [01:26] does fluxbox work with compiz? [01:26] though it is pretty! [01:27] Jester45, not sure [01:27] anyway back in about 60 seconds :) === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === tidrio1 [n=cescalan@adsl-66-142-220-228.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [01:35] any good wysiwyg editors for Ubuntu, also looking for a good CSS editor (mainly one with a color selector [01:35] :S I tried flux box... can't even figure out how to run a program :P [01:36] right click on the desktop [01:36] tidrio1, there is one but I can't recall the name [01:36] !wysiwyg [01:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about wysiwyg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:36] Jester45, I did :) [01:36] arrg [01:36] What you see is what you get Html editor [01:37] yea i know what it was [01:37] i was hoping it would give a list [01:37] nvu [01:37] bluefish [01:37] nvu is the one I was thinking of [01:37] or... you can do my favorite is mousepad/nano [01:37] best is to just do the html :) [01:37] agreed [01:37] you learn more [01:37] Jester45, no! vi! /me starts editor war [01:38] :P [01:38] and can fix problems faster [01:38] notepad ftw [01:38] exactly, because you know what the code does, rather then just trying to find "the right feature" [01:38] (yes I tried nyu, it has high ratings, but its just not for me) [01:39] or, how you can put 2 featers to do somthing rather than using a html code for it [01:40] and you can make copies of the pages and edit content lots easier [01:40] or put php in it [01:40] and generate the content from a backend database ;) [01:42] Jester45, http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/277/true-transparent-eye-candy-on-fluxbox/ [01:42] yeah you can put compiz on fluxbox [01:43] lol, guys.. [01:43] tidrio1, ? [01:43] I know HTML it is an efficiency thing [01:43] tidrio1, and :) [01:44] I can click add table faster than type,

[01:44] not that I like tables lol [01:46] tidrio1, so... your staying you can open a editer load the file edit/add the table then save it all in the same time as the webserver looking up in a sql database and automatically change the file [01:46] im guessing the time that takes is ooo under 2 secnods [01:46] i would like you see you even find the file that fast [01:48] lmfao [01:48] wow, I thought I hated WYSIWYG [01:49] aight guys fine. I won't use one lol [01:49] http://jimschwartzdev.com/sts/web/backend_dev.php/run/index/id/1 [01:49] if anyone cares to see what I'm working on [01:50] try it out it is a scratch DB === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === tidrio1 [n=cescalan@adsl-66-142-220-228.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Xs1t0ry [n=chatzill@CPE001346f06327-CM0011ae8cdc5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #xubuntu [] === ryan__ [n=ryan@d22-194.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === ryan__ is now known as Jester45 === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-88-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:28] is there a torrent plugin for FF2/ [02:28] ? [02:28] probably [02:28] bftd : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=torrent&status=4 [02:30] search for foxtorrent [02:31] BFTD, still on dialup? have fun on the torrents make sure you limiy your uplado [02:31] limit your upload* [02:31] http://www.foxtorrent.com/ [02:31] Jester45 I'm camping [02:31] ima try it [02:31] BFTD, o [02:31] still [02:32] limit the upload or your only going to get like 1kb/s [02:34] how do I limit it? === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:34] depends on the client [02:35] man [02:35] my internet is diying [02:35] and my typing is dead :) [02:36] dieing* [02:36] I'm getting 0 download and upload [02:36] yea [02:37] torrents take a bit to start [02:37] because you have to connect to all the peers [02:37] oh [02:37] how long should I wait? [02:37] did you get a torrents with seeds? [02:37] yes [02:38] 7 [02:38] or peers is it? [02:38] you need seeds [02:38] I saw that it had seeds [02:38] but its now says that there is no peers [02:38] seeds have 100% of the file come clients call seeds peers also peers are normaly other downloaders [02:39] now it says 2 [02:39] is there 2 numbers like 2 (7) [02:43] so the other day i'm here getting help on how to reconfig x; i get back to the computer in question, reboot it and it worked again [02:43] HAHA [02:43] it stopped giving the "no screens found" error [02:43] and so it goes using bottom basement hardware :-/ [02:43] I'm downloading ubuntu server edition at 600KB/s !!! [02:43] torrent? [02:44] BFTD, i thought you had dialup [02:44] what's dialup? [02:44] Jester45 I'm camping [02:45] jtg23, a type of internet connection 56kbps down and ~20kbps up [02:45] BFTD, im confused [02:45] Jester45 wi-fi [02:45] BFTD: evdo? [02:45] oh [02:45] BFTD, hehe you must like the speed [02:46] it is at your house? (using neighbor's? ) or somewhere else [02:46] Jester45 hell ya!! [02:46] !language | BFTD [02:47] BFTD, hehe im sshed into vidd's colocated server download a mirror of the *buntu isos at ~1200KB/s and im on my connection downloading lost season 2 at ~400kb/s and sshed into vidd's home server downloading a backup off the colocated at ~600Kb/s [02:48] :) [02:48] yeah [02:48] but thats a great speed up for you [02:48] im such a bandwidth hog [02:49] what type of connection do you have? [02:49] at my dad's office they have 2600 kbps [02:49] when ever a movie finishes downloading its auto ftped into my file server and the server converts to dvd and makes an iso [02:49] and no one knows what it is [02:49] I think its DSL [02:49] but it might be T1 [02:49] whats the upload [02:50] 700 kbps [02:50] probly DSL [02:51] 1700* [02:51] sorry [02:51] T1 is normally symmetric meaning same up and down and cable has low upload speed compared to its download [02:51] eating chips and enjoying the speed [02:51] BFTD, start downloading somthing else to see if you can get more than that :) you might not be maxing out === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [02:52] Jester45 eh? [02:52] like another torrent? [02:52] BFTD, or a download from the web. to see how fast you can go [02:52] itook a speed test [02:53] it said 700 Kbps [02:53] o [02:53] HAHA [02:53] I just thought up a joke [02:53] "Jonny, how fast do you run?" [02:54] "Oh about 3 Mbps" [02:54] if your upload is 1700kbs then it's definately not DSL [02:54] thats a nerdy joke [02:56] TaJMoX yeah === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] hey vidd_laptop can I ssh into your server? [02:57] why [02:57] BFTD, why do you want in? [02:58] cuz I'm cool and I think I should be part of the club [02:58] haha [02:58] wait i want in too; i love access [02:58] vidd i installed a teamspeak server on it today but i removed it... i coudnt connect [02:58] cleanly removed to :) nothing left not even a log file [02:59] which server Jester45 ? [02:59] vidd.us [02:59] do i have sudo powers on both? [03:00] BFTD, jtg23 ppl currently with access have access for a purpose [03:00] i could connect to the webadmin but not with the client [03:00] vidd, i'll find a purpose if i have access ;) [03:00] like me... im cool so i get sudo powers [03:00] give me purpose [03:00] Jester45, no...just on the homelinux [03:00] haha [03:01] we should take this to #viddandme [03:01] never!!! [03:01] arrg [03:01] i need to turn that off [03:02] Jester45, turn what off? === AmBAr [n=ambar@189.12.133.181] has joined #xubuntu [03:08] \c === AmBAr [n=ambar@189.12.133.181] has left #xubuntu [] === AmBAr [n=ambar@189.12.133.181] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] I have Ubuntu 7.04 , and my sound module is: snd_intel8x0 and her is load, on lspci my sound card are visible, but im without sound ! alsamixer says: No such device === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B9666D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu === jtg23 [n=jtzl@67-40-27-172.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu === tinin [n=tinin@169.Red-83-41-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illu45@p-dynamic-border5-129.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:25] I have Ubuntu 7.04 , and my sound module is: snd_intel8x0 and her is load, on lspci my sound card are visible, but im without sound ! alsamixer says: No such device [03:26] lspci doesnt mean its compatible or working right. it just means its connected and visable by linux [03:28] yes but my sound work before i restart the machine :( === reaVer [n=reaver@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #xubuntu === gerro [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [03:42] was digging around sourceforge and found some browser app, but can't get it started. Any clue what mozilla_five_home variable means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28013/ [03:44] I just thought it was interesting since it said something about ubuntu distro :/ [03:44] maybe ~/.mozzila/ [03:44] yeah that is what I thought but it mentioned that file [03:45] Jester45: how would I set an environment variable? [03:46] I know how to use most linux commands but shell specific features are a bit over my head :( [03:46] idk [03:47] think I read something about that in an old book [03:47] Jester45: you a bash user? [03:47] yes [03:47] you can try [03:47] what is it with xubuntu using dash? [03:48] mozilla_five_home="/home/user/.mozzila/" before running the command [03:48] it uses bash... === Jester45 is now known as not_Jester45 === wincide [n=wincide-@14.Red-88-3-251.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196207.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === wincide [n=wincide-@14.Red-88-3-251.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #xubuntu ["taotra] [04:13] not_Jester45: well dash is installed.. === jtg23 is now known as jtg23_ === jtg23_ is now known as jtg23 === jtg23 is now known as jtg23_ === jtg23_ is now known as jtg23 === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-76-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] hmm which package contains the mozilla browser not the firefox one. Think its usually refered to as sea-monkey or such. [04:29] gerro: which version of xubuntu are you running? [04:31] gerro: did you try "apt-cache search mozilla seamonkey"? [04:33] !checksum [04:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about checksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:33] jlmc: oh 7.04 xubuntu [04:34] gerro: did you try the command i listed above? [04:34] what would I be searching for with that? [04:34] yeah [04:34] did it come up with any results? [04:34] this libxul stuff [04:34] ok. [04:35] gecko engine libraries it says [04:35] the next release, the gutsy gibbon (7.10) will include the ability to install "iceape" [04:35] iceape? [04:35] The Iceape Internet Suite is an unbranded Seamonkey Internet Suite suitable for free distribution. The Seamonkey Internet Suite is a set of Internet oriented applications. It is the continuity of the Mozilla Suite after it has been abandoned in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird. [04:35] isn't that a thunderbird mod? [04:35] how do I run a checksum? [04:36] BFTD, to get an md5sum for a program? [04:36] or file? [04:36] yeah how do I install the mozilla suite or something similar? [04:36] ISO [04:36] BFTD: "md5sum filename" [04:37] I use swiftweasel on my computer and its annoying how xchat links always open up in firefox :( [04:37] gerro: gerro i'm not sure if iceape is being backported to feisty. [04:38] lemme check something. === pili [n=pili@169.Red-83-41-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === pili_ [n=pili@169.Red-83-41-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:41] gerro: i don't know if seamonkey (or the mozilla suite) is going to be available in xubuntu feisty. you could try installing it from source, but i can't advise you on how to do that. [04:42] i do know that it is included in xubuntu gutsy gibbon. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe2/Xubuntu [04:42] gerro ^^ see that link [04:42] umm I was told that its included in ubuntu === pili [n=pili@169.Red-83-41-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] I just need the mozilla suite library [04:43] if it's not coming up in an apt-cache search, then it's not available in ubuntu, either. [04:43] xubuntu and ubuntu share the same repositories [04:43] yeah that's what I meant [04:45] okay look I went into applications > settings > prefered applications> and set web browser for "mozilla browser" obviously some libraries for that program are installed if it opened your link [04:45] I'm just hung up on the "suite" part of what your saying [04:45] i'm sure that firefox and the mozilla internet suite share some same libraries [04:46] for application I'm trying to get going it says it needs the mozilla part not the firefox one and that it works on ubuntu [04:46] the suite is the browser / mail / ... combo. [04:46] like what netscape was back several years ago === gerro isn't wearing a suite, he's sitting in his boxers [04:47] they've just continued development of it [04:47] umm okay [04:47] j1mc, i did a tech call for it today....its kinda weird [04:47] suit <> suite [04:47] vidd_laptop: a tech call for what? [04:47] I thought suite was just the british way of spelling it.. [04:47] gerro: heh... no. :) [04:47] customer needed to change server settings in it for e-mail [04:48] ahhh... [04:48] vidd_laptop: you do tech calls for who? === vidd_laptop would prefer not to mention the ISP that he works for [04:49] ah sorry was just about to say [04:49] say what? you have a guess? [04:50] if you do, pm me and i will confirm or deny [04:50] just wont say in open (monitored) channel [04:50] hey man its no biggie I know there some tech jobs out there that not so proud of but money good so *shrugs* [04:51] gerro, im not ASHAMED....im PROUD of my work [04:51] yeah we like being recorded on some server or something? [04:51] so, gerro ... if you can wait until 7.10 comes out... you'll have the equivalent of mozilla seamonkey [04:51] actually....yes..... [04:51] i saw a convo show up in a google search [04:52] well they better damn well be giving me the sexy colored font in that recording [04:53] j1mc: I have some xpcom.so file it mentions on my computer but can't find the same component that the mozilla browser is using [04:53] wow, i just found out that if you close a tab in firefox, and then press ctrl-shift-t, it will open up the tab to the page you just closed. [04:54] j1mc: yeah that's more annoying than auto restore thing :/ [04:54] gerro: i think your questions may be better answered by the mozilla team. [04:54] j1mc: try doing ctrl l [04:55] I use that instead of navigation bar so it looks more full screen like === geck1 [n=ben@fb.mlc.edu] has joined #xubuntu [05:08] howdy [05:09] Can anyone tell me how to remove an item from the applications menu, and how to add an icon for a program to the desktop? I tried just clicking and dragging but its not working =/ [05:10] geck1, you would need to greate a launcher for the desktop shortcut [05:10] *create [05:14] geck1: right click [05:15] geck1: and for the appplications menu right click it and choose properties then go to edit menu [05:15] geck1: if you have a crappy one button mouse you can fix that under settings by assigning a hotkey perhaps [05:17] ok I have a question, not sure if it is related to xubuntu or if I should be asking elsewhere, but I have a microsoft intellipoint mouse. It has 5 buttons, but the two extra buttons only act as a middle click, any way to tell linux to use the two extra buttons correctly? [05:17] gerro, when i tried to edit menu, I don't see any of the programs in applications [05:18] eagle-101, check your xorg.conf.......is the mouse set as ps/2 or explorer? [05:18] hang on looking [05:19] geck1: you see where it says "---include --- system" that is generated by the system and contains the applications section [05:19] and WHAT are these 2 extra buttons SUPPOSED to do? [05:19] geck1: I really don't know which file that would be needing the editing however why not create your own section? [05:20] eagle-101: what do you want those buttons to do? [05:21] i'll check it out, thanks gerro =) [05:21] gerro I want to be able to assign them functions [05:21] rather then having them emulate a middle click [05:22] vidd_laptop, neither ps/2 or explorer was found [05:22] Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" [05:23] ok...so it is ps/2 [05:23] ok yeah I guess [05:23] so is there something that is better to set it to? [05:23] eagle-101: applications > Settings > ... oh wait that is for keyboard I have no clue about the mouse all mine have 2 buttons with middle scroll that clicks and none that curvy crap :) [05:23] gerro, heh :) [05:24] eagle-101: I would really love to hook up a ps2 controller though [05:24] need a usb adapter for that [05:24] this is a mouse I bought back when I was using windows... dark dark days :) [05:25] but like I said what would you even do with those things? [05:25] gerro, ps2 controller would be cool... would be interesting to see how a pc dealt with the two joysticks [05:25] you need to run.... [05:25] eagle-101: two? [05:26] i need to find it.... [05:26] eagle-101: why would I need two? [05:26] gerro, a ps2 controller has two analog sticks [05:26] although two mouses would be awesome! [05:26] how do I enable that? [05:26] you could use 2 buttons for one mouse and other 2 for other one [05:26] gerro, heh [05:26] maybe have them mirror each other on output screen [05:26] gerro, plug one mous in the ps/2 and the other in the usb [05:27] vidd_laptop, or just use a laptop and leave the touchpad on [05:27] vidd_laptop: but they would be sending input to the one cursor on screen [05:27] VERY annoying [05:27] and plug in a usb mouse (like I do) [05:27] I want 2 cursors each mouse has its own [05:27] one for reach hand ya know [05:28] gerro, heh [05:28] eagle-101, i need to look upth emapping program for you.... [05:28] then I could like play 2 games at once like that [05:28] vidd_laptop, thanks for your work [05:28] gerro, only one problem... you only have one brain [05:28] but brain is split into 2 hemispheres [05:30] true... go play counterstrike and another shooting game at the same time... tell me if you are any good at both of them :) [05:31] umm one more question =) [05:31] yeah but certain actions would require the extra buttons [05:31] i just downloaded an xfce theme, and I have a bunch of .xpm files [05:31] what do I do with them? [05:31] geck1: sweet what theme? [05:31] xfce has themes O.o [05:31] LiNsta-Black [05:32] geck1: do updatedb as root then run locate with the name of other xfce themes you have [05:32] sweet [05:32] but I don't know how to install it >_< [05:32] eagle-101: duh [05:32] sorry gerro can you say that again in more stupid peoples terms [05:32] geck1: after you find where xfce keeps its themes you copy that folder there and set it to the same permissions [05:32] I'm new to linux =P [05:33] I think he means sudo updatedb [05:33] then sudo find / | grep name of other theam [05:33] I *think* [05:34] geck1: updatedb updates your search database and locate searches for things. so locate Crux since it is an already installed theme oh its in /usr/share/themes/ next we copy that folder with xpm files into that directory by using mv command or running thunar as root [05:35] my head is going to splode. ummm OK i'll try heh [05:35] just mv file1 file2 where file1 is the file you want moved over file2 [05:35] geck1: then you run ls -la and look at the left where it says drwxr-xr-x make sure the newly installed folder says that too and any subdirectories if not you use chmod command on it http://www.ezau.com/latest/tools/chmod.html [05:36] chmod -r 3numbers folder [05:36] geck1, its a bit of a learning curve sorry :( [05:36] -r for recursive might not work if subdirectories have different permissions [05:36] but its worth a try! [05:36] gerro, yep :) [05:37] eagle-101, i have it.... [05:37] I'm all about trying to figure it out, I'm just a bit slow at first =P [05:37] to be honest it would be nice to have a themes manager diddy that did this work for you O.o [05:38] vidd_laptop, ok, I'm listening :) (well if you don't mind I'll be back in about 2 minutes) [05:39] ok, I have open a window with the themes in it at /themes, and I have open the location where the theme I downloaded is located [05:39] eagle-101: you have a theme manager now just need an import option [05:39] It won't let me just drag it into that file though [05:39] use xev to determine what the mouse buttons are named and xmodmad to map them to something else [05:39] geck1: you have to be ROOT to do that so do sudo su then run thunar [05:40] geck1: yes I know its confusing since it just doesn't work but gives no signs of why, I slip up with same mistake all time [05:40] its ok, I've used the terminal before, I should be able to figure it out =P [05:41] so my not just do gksudo thunar? [05:41] geck1: anyway what theme is it, it look kool? [05:41] geck1, linux is different then windows as in it won't let you delete your critical files without first being an admin... and ubuntu goes one step further by never allowing you to be admin by default [05:41] thats a good thing =P [05:41] or sudo cp /item/path /item/destination [05:41] so no rouge scripts deleting your system32 files :) [05:42] eagle-101, you get my line? [05:42] eagle-101, you get my line? [05:42] use xev to determine what the mouse buttons are named and xmodmad to map them to something else [05:42] vidd_laptop: I got your line! [05:42] ok :) [05:42] where is the tmp directory? i just lost it [05:43] vidd_laptop, thanks, I don't need to change anything? [05:43] err in my xorg? [05:43] cancel that, found it [05:43] well....yeah....that is what xmodemap will do [05:43] ok [05:43] oh..no...nothing there [05:44] i wanted to know what x thought your mouse was to be sure these apps worked like i expect them to work [05:44]