[01:47] (DeconPat/#kubuntu) rdvon: same basic question as mine.  but I'd like to make sure a user just added doesn't have admin priveliges.
[01:48] <euphoria> hai
[01:48] <rdvon> why doesnt sudo apt-get work? it says that the package lists could not be parsed or opened....
[01:48] <rdvon> i have 2 problems >_>
[01:48] <DeconPat> rdvon: try kdesu instead of sudo
[01:48] <rdvon> and why I cant I delete anything off my own desktop? it says access is denied...
[01:49] <rdvon> thanks decon
[01:50] <rdvon> DeconPat: im getting the same error... could it be some of the debian repos i have?
[01:51] <Sanne> DeconPat: as far as I know, only the first user added to the system (probably you) gets admin rights with sudo (but make sure, just in case :) )
[01:51] <bryan> whats a good p2p for kubuntu?
[01:52] <DeconPat> Sanne: thanks.. I'll login as "guest" and check it out.
[01:52] <rdvon> Is there any way I can just set all the settings in ubuntu back to default?
[01:52] <rdvon> including repositories?
[01:52] <Sanne> DeconPat: I *think* your user is in the admin group, but the new user isn't?
[01:53] <Sanne> DeconPat: ok
[01:53] <bryan> any one
[01:53] <rdvon> can I pm someone with knowledge of apt-get my error?
[01:54] <rdvon> *read
[01:54] <jesusricardo> hola
[01:54] <euphoria> olaa
[01:54] <jesusricardo> alguien me puede ayudar?
[01:54] <jesusricardo> no puedo ver dvds en kubuntu
[01:54] <rdvon> no hablo espanol
[01:54] <Sanne> !es | jesusricardo
[01:54] <ubotu> jesusricardo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:55] <rdvon> I really dont want to flood the irc, so can i pm someone my error?
[01:56] <Sanne> !pastebin | rdvon
[01:56] <ubotu> rdvon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:56] <rdvon> oooh cool, thanks
[01:56] <Sanne> :)
[01:56] <rdvon> your just full of answers sanne!
[01:56] <Sanne> heh
[01:56] <jesusricardo> there here someone can help me, my kubuntu can't open dvds
[01:57] <jesusricardo> ?
[01:57] <jesusricardo> how can i pen a rpm in kubuntu?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> jesusricardo: alien but its not the safest software, what is on rpm that you cant find on .deb?
[01:59] <rdvon> sanne: how do i use this?
[01:59] <rdvon> I just click paste?
[02:00] <Sanne> rdvon: you oaste the error into the text field, click the paste button at the bottom, and paste the url you  got here.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> rdvon: go to the link above and paste it to the webpage than give us the new link after you hit send
[02:00] <rdvon> ok thanks.
[02:01] <rdvon> there are a couple of erros ;)
[02:01] <vzduch> !dvd | jesusricardo
[02:01] <ubotu> jesusricardo: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:01] <Sanne> rdvon: paste them all, the input field is large :)
[02:02] <rdvon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28164/
[02:04] <rdvon> and it tells me to use sudo apt-get install -f, but it doesnt do anything..
[02:04] <rdvon> all i want is ndiswrapper!
[02:04] <ardchoille> !ndiswrapper
[02:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:04] <rdvon> ... I need to install...
[02:04] <rdvon> and apt-get isnt working.
[02:05] <rdvon> adchoille: thats my problem. ;)
[02:06] <jacob> I'm new at linux kubuntu and i'm having problems connecting to the internet wirelessly through router with a web key
[02:06] <jacob> can anybody help me?
[02:06] <vzduch> !wifi
[02:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:07] <Wipster> how can I make my sound card only record from one input ie, my mic because teamspeak is getting a loop back from my speakers, in kmix I'm turning off all other sources for input but they keep resetting to all on, any ideas?
[02:07] <rdvon> wow, everyone else has the same problems as i do.
[02:09] <rdvon> whats the command for installing .deb packages in the terminal?
[02:09] <vzduch> Wipster: tried turning them off in alsamixer? ime there's a bit of a difference between kmix and alsamixer
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> rdvon: dpkg -i <package>
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> i think
[02:11] <rdvon> thanks
[02:11] <rdvon> but does anyone have any idea why I cant move/delete/put files on my desktop! this is ridiculous.
[02:11] <rdvon> it's sayin acces to MY DESKTOP is denied.
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> who's listed as owner?
[02:12] <rdvon> owner?
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmhmm
[02:12] <rdvon> me...
[02:12] <drnoone> check permissions/owner on /home/username/Desktop
[02:12] <rdvon> uhh... how...?
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> rdvon: if it's you, it wouldn't give you that error
[02:12] <rdvon> yes its me.
[02:12] <vzduch> ls -l ~/Desktop/
[02:13] <rdvon> vzduch: it just listed everything on my desktop.
[02:14] <vzduch> it also tells you the owner and the group the owner is in
[02:14] <rdvon> oh.
[02:15] <rdvon> im in group rdvon...
[02:15] <rdvon> and my name is rdvon...
[02:15] <rdvon> =/
[02:15] <rdvon> what if i were to change to group admin?
[02:16] <Wipster> vzduch: wow thanks I thought kmix replaces alsamixer, good to know that kmix seems to do nothing in this case :D
[02:16] <RodSteel> rdvon where are you moving the files from?
[02:17] <Schuenemann> Sanne, I think I did it
[02:17] <rdvon> RodSteel: i just downloaded a file off the internet on to my desktop, and it gives me an access denied message.
[02:17] <Sanne> Schuenemann: great, what did you do?
[02:17] <Schuenemann> I inserted that line again
[02:18] <darkrift411> could someone here who knows regex do me a huge favor and show me how to convert [U372] [???K] [???] [*F]  to regex? (the [] 's are part of the string)
[02:18] <Schuenemann> allowglxwithcomposite
[02:18] <DexterF> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:18] <vzduch> doesn't work for me, then X won't start
[02:18] <RodSteel> rdvon, is it executable?
[02:19] <Sanne> Schuenemann: like before, and now it works?
[02:19] <RodSteel> I mean, did you chmod it?
[02:19] <rdvon> RodSteel: it is a .deb package, but happens with anything.
[02:19] <RodSteel> i see
[02:19] <Schuenemann> Sanne, before it had the previous monitor
[02:19] <RodSteel> i got nothing then
[02:19] <RodSteel> sorry
[02:20] <rdvon> meh, im checking users and groups than...
[02:20] <Sanne> Schuenemann: out of interest, can you paste your xorg.conf that works?
[02:20] <Schuenemann> wait
[02:20] <Sanne> k
[02:20] <ILovePlankton> Can somebosy help me? I can't get MP3s to work, I downloaded everything it said to on the kubuntu.com faq page, I've tried everything I can think of.
[02:21] <rdvon> ILovePlankton: try vlc media player. Although the latest ubuntu should find codecs like that for you.
[02:22] <Schuenemann> Sanne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28166/
[02:22] <vzduch> Audacious works fine here, it has its own codec base
[02:23] <Schuenemann> ILovePlankton, did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:23] <Schuenemann> Sanne, I'd better save that file
[02:23] <Sanne> Schuenemann: yeah, I'd do that. And thanks for pasting :)
[02:23] <rdvon> I forgot how to install deb packages =/
[02:24] <Schuenemann> thanks
[02:24] <Schuenemann> rdvon, you can right-click
[02:24] <Schuenemann> or dpkg something
[02:24] <Sanne> Schuenemann: I suspected something in the monitor section, because there were errors in your log about hsync out of range. maybe the modelines are inmportant.
[02:24] <vzduch> dpkg -i $pkgname
[02:25] <rdvon> oh thanks.
[02:25] <Schuenemann> vzduch, did you set up glx?
[02:25] <vzduch> Schuenemann: what do you mean by that?
[02:25] <Schuenemann> is glx working for you?
[02:25] <vzduch> Schuenemann: no
[02:26] <Schuenemann> you might want to try this
[02:26] <Schuenemann> add this line --> Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True" <-- to section device
[02:26] <vzduch> Schuenemann: the driver is active (the logo comes aup when starting X), but no GLX.. glxinfo segfaults on me.. and this option I tried, but my X server won't start then
[02:26] <Schuenemann> yes, that was happening to me and that line saved the day
[02:26] <vzduch> saying 'no display found'
[02:27] <Schuenemann> backup your xorg.conf and try that
[02:28] <morph_> hailz all
[02:28] <morph_> anyone running beryl on ubuntu here?
[02:28] <morph_> just wanna know how stable it is
[02:29] <rdvon> screw it, im using aptitude.
[02:30] <rdvon> what the- dynamic MMap ran out of room...
[02:30] <hernan> hi
[02:30] <rdvon> anyone know what that means?
[02:31] <rdvon> I think my kubuntu is broken :'(
[02:31] <rdvon> can someone help!
[02:32] <rdvon> im going to login as root...
[02:32] <fignew> rdvon: are you out of HardDrive space
[02:32] <fignew> ?
[02:32] <rdvon> harddrive space?
[02:32] <rdvon> thats what that is?
[02:32] <rdvon> lol
[02:33] <fignew> was only a guess
[02:33] <Sanne> rdvon: I just found this (didn't try myself): http://rwxii.bitblaster.com/k/11-1-1-031211102449/permlink.hptb
[02:33] <rdvon> thanks!
[02:33] <vzduch> Schuenemann: I restarted my X server.. it starts up fine
[02:33] <Schuenemann> and?
[02:34] <bryan> need help with azureus
[02:34] <rdvon> sanne: yay! now i dont have to reinstall ubuntu!
[02:34] <vzduch> I'll try starting some applications.. if I am gone, I hit the reset button because my system froze :<
[02:34] <trakinas> bryan: ask
[02:34] <Schuenemann> try glxgears
[02:34] <Schuenemann> vzduch, glxgears
[02:34] <saotome_> bryan, what seems to be the problem?
[02:34] <hernan> alguien habla espaol
[02:35] <Schuenemann> !es | hernan
[02:35] <ubotu> hernan: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:35] <Sanne> rdvon: oh, hehe, don't be so quick with reinstalls. usually problems are solvable. Reinstalls don't solve, and if the problem occurs again, you're at square one :)
[02:35] <saotome_> i'm trying to migrate from gnome, most things are where I'd expect them to be, but still a bit lost. any pointers?
[02:35] <saotome_> hernan, que pasa?
[02:35] <Schuenemann> saotome_, please, not here
[02:35] <Schuenemann> this is english only
[02:35] <hernan> aqui tratando de hacer funcionar
[02:35] <saotome_> schuenemann, have it your way
[02:35] <hernan> este kubuntu
[02:36] <Schuenemann> there is a channel for spanish
[02:36] <bryan> I'm new at it. I get a error on the status: failed every time
[02:36] <hernan> ok
[02:36] <saotome_> bryan, what error are you getting?
[02:36] <saotome_> hernan, go to #kubuntu-es
[02:37] <vzduch> Schuenemann: glxgears and glxinfo are running now.. but I had it working before, only I had the problem that my system froze upon starting certain apps, e.g. browsers
[02:37] <rdvon> Sanne: there is no directory at /etc/apt/apt.conf...
[02:37] <vzduch> gonna try that now
[02:37] <Schuenemann> vzduch, weird... I don't run glxgears before
[02:37] <Schuenemann> didn't
[02:38] <bryan> error: failed to create parent directory
[02:38] <Schuenemann> my dog is very annoying today
[02:38] <Sanne> rdvon: meant is the file apt.conf in /etc/apt/
[02:39] <vzduch> seems to run flawlessly now
[02:39] <rdvon> Sanne: oh.
[02:39] <Sanne> :)
[02:39] <rdvon> Sanne: ;)
[02:40] <rdvon> well now i know what a dynamic mmap is...
[02:41] <rdvon> and... OMG IT DOESNT WORK.
[02:41] <rdvon> I need more room for my dynamic mmaps.
[02:42] <vzduch> room as in RAM or disk space?
[02:43] <rdvon> vzduch: room as in.. er... dynamic room.
[02:44] <rdvon> i just bumped it up to 33554432
[02:44] <rdvon> should work.
[02:44] <rdvon> its at about 75%....
[02:44] <rdvon> w00t it worked!
[02:44] <vzduch> doesn't tell me anything.. the value has to have some measuring unit
[02:45] <rdvon> vzduch: i have no idea what it is..
[02:46] <rdvon> finally!
[02:46] <rdvon> yes!
[02:46] <rdvon> happy!
[02:46] <rdvon> you guys are so helpful, thank you.
[02:46] <ILovePlankton> none of my sound works at all... can anybody help?
[02:47] <rdvon> ILovePlankton: hmm...
[02:47] <vzduch> is your sound card recognized?
[02:48] <ILovePlankton> ... no idea.
[02:48] <vzduch> lspci
[02:48] <jussi01> !sound
[02:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:48] <vzduch> look for the name of your soundcard
[02:48] <vzduch> aRts? *ugh*
[02:48] <vzduch> sound system? *ugh*
[02:48] <vzduch> works fine w/o here :)
[02:49] <jamie> hi, can anyone help me get my microphone working on kubuntu? I don't know where to start or what command output to post.
[02:49] <vzduch> jamie: toggle it on in alsamixer
[02:50] <jamie> input sources are already mic and mic volume is up to max
[02:50] <vzduch> --> alsamixer --> use the right/left arrow keys to switch between the sliders/switches, pressing 'M' turns individual functions on and off
[02:50] <ILovePlankton> yeah sound is enabled.
[02:51] <jamie> yep, microphone input is enabled
[02:51] <rdvon> anyone have any tutorials on ndiswrapper?
[02:52] <vzduch> !ndiswrapper
[02:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:52] <rdvon> oh yeah, that site.
[02:56] <vzduch> btw, *buntu's default console font is pretty ugly :D   how do I change it?
[03:01] <rdvon> I'm gettin really ticked off >:(
[03:01] <rdvon> I just want to install ndiswrapper.
[03:01] <rdvon> why didnt ubuntu come with ndiswrapper!
[03:03] <jussi01> rdvon: it does... its in the repos
[03:03] <jussi01> !info ndiswrapper
[03:03] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:03] <jussi01> hang on
[03:03] <rdvon> jussie01: why didnt it come installed...
[03:04] <rdvon> how could someone without internet (because of his wireless only laptop) get ndiswrapper in the repos? hmm?
[03:04] <jussi01> !info ndisgtk
[03:04] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[03:05] <rdvon> how do i see all the processes in linux?
[03:05] <rdvon> ..its not ctrl alt del, hehe
[03:05] <jussi01> ctrl esc
[03:05] <rdvon> oh, thanks
[03:05] <jussi01> :)
[03:06] <vzduch> rdvon: you can try 'ps -aux', lists all running processes.. or 'top', shows CPU and memory usage
[03:06] <rdvon> double thanks!
[03:06] <vzduch> :)
[03:07] <rdvon> gives vzduch a cookie
[03:07] <vzduch> no, thanks.. not tonight any more :>
[03:07] <rdvon> :)
[03:08] <vzduch> I'll go to bed now, it's already waaaaaaaayyy too late
[03:08] <rdvon> 6:00 here.
[03:08] <vzduch> 3 a.m. here
[03:08] <rdvon> where do you live? lol
[03:08] <Schuenemann> @now bahia
[03:08] <ubotu> Current time in America/Bahia: July 01 2007, 22:08:37 - Next meeting: Desktop Team in 11 hours 51 minutes
[03:08] <mike-kubuntu> hey, i'm trying to use vsftpd to ftp into my comp trhough konqueror, the problem is that although i can ssh and ftp in through konsole via sftp and ssh for some reason when i attempt to ftp using konqueror with ftp://<ipadress> or firefox it send me an OOPS code 500 process died
[03:08] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[03:08] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: July 02 2007, 04:08:44 - Next meeting: Desktop Team in 11 hours 51 minutes
[03:08] <akae> nihao
[03:08] <vzduch> @now duesseldorf
[03:09] <vzduch> @now berlin
[03:09] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 02 2007, 03:09:07 - Next meeting: Desktop Team in 11 hours 50 minutes
[03:09] <rdvon> this is pissing me off beyond my mental reasoning.
[03:09] <akae> hello
[03:09] <rdvon> now I cant get an exclusive friggin lock!
[03:09] <Schuenemann> hi, akae
[03:09] <rdvon> wtf does that mean...
[03:09] <rdvon> i'm going to log off...
[03:09] <vzduch> good night :)
[03:10] <jussi01> night vzduch
[03:10] <akae> good  morning
[03:10] <akae_> good morning
[03:10] <akae> hello jussi01
[03:11] <jussi01> hi akae
[03:11] <akae> hi  jussi01
[03:11] <akae> where are you
[03:12] <rdvon> kk back.
[03:12] <rdvon> I was logged in to my other account.......
[03:14] <akae_> hello
[03:14] <rdvon> hi.
[03:15] <jussi01> akae_: do you have a question?
[03:15] <akae_> i a m come here at first
[03:16] <rdvon> what package manager do you use in kde? synaptic?
[03:17] <akae_> I use kde
[03:17] <rdvon> where in the kubuntu channel.... you better be using kde >:(
[03:17] <jussi01> rdvon: adept
[03:17] <jussi01> !info adept
[03:17] <rdvon> i should get that than...
[03:17] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.2ubuntu26.1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 44 kB
[03:17] <rdvon> woot
[03:17] <jussi01> :)
[03:17] <rdvon> I didnt really install kubuntu, I just installed kde on ubuntu :D
[03:18] <rdvon> I <3 kdie
[03:18] <rdvon> *kde
[03:18] <jussi01> :)
[03:19] <rdvon> gah!
[03:19] <rdvon> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:19] <rdvon> should i restart?
[03:20] <rdvon> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:21] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[03:21] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:21] <jussi01> rdvon: just make sure you dont have synaptic running or something lse using apt...
[03:21] <rdvon> im not using adept...
[03:21] <rdvon> im trying to exit synaptic...
[03:22] <mike-kubuntu> anyone know why konquror is crashing when attempting to ftp with me while console ftp clients are successfull?
[03:22] <jussi01> well that command should work anyway
[03:22] <jussi01> mike-kubuntu: no idea, suggest you file a bug
[03:23] <Schuenemann> mike-kubuntu, konqueror is bad for ftp anyway
[03:23] <mike-kubuntu> Schuenemann: i was hoping to ftp through it because if you do and open the file through kate, everytime you save it automatically uploads it
[03:24] <Schuenemann> you can try filezilla
[03:24] <rdvon> it says i have insufficient permissions to kill the synaptic process...
[03:24] <jacob_> I'm new @ Kubuntu. I just downloaded Mozilla Thunderbird.... Can somebody tell me how to install Mozilla Thunderbird or any other software? It's so different from Windows
[03:24] <mike-kubuntu> my servers behind a router, does the type of ftp acces konqueror/mozilla use use a diferent port than 21/20?
[03:25] <jacob_> i don't know
[03:25] <Schuenemann> jacob_, it's easier to do it with apt-get, although it doesn't have thunderbird 2 yet
[03:25] <rdvon> how do i kill processes when i dont have a sufficient privilege?
[03:25] <jussi01> !info thunderbird
[03:25] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:25] <Schuenemann> mike-kubuntu, I don't know :-/
[03:26] <jussi01> rdvon: sudo kill processname - i think
[03:26] <rdvon> thank you
[03:27] <jussi01> jacob_: go to adept in the k menu under system and search for mozilla thunderbird
[03:27] <CraZy675> anyone familiar with recordmydesktop?  it doesn't seem to be picking up my mic even though skype does
[03:27] <rdvon> i... killed... them...
[03:27] <rdvon> there dead...
[03:27] <jussi01> lol
[03:27] <rdvon> yay!
[03:28] <rdvon> :D
[03:28] <rdvon> do i run sudo apt-get install adept?
[03:28] <jussi01> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[03:28] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.12-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB
[03:28] <jussi01> rdvon: i imagine so...
[03:29] <rdvon> grrrrrrrr
[03:29] <jussi01> huh?
[03:29] <rdvon> who is using my process!
[03:29] <rdvon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:29] <rdvon> i keep gettin that error.
[03:29] <rdvon> I think im going to restart.
[03:30] <smylanakis> hello
[03:30] <jussi01> rdvon: did you do that command i gave you?
[03:30] <smylanakis> i would like to as a question..
[03:30] <smylanakis> is there anybody
[03:30] <jussi01> !ask | smylanakis
[03:30] <ubotu> smylanakis: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:30] <smylanakis> that knows
[03:30] <smylanakis> how i can backup my kubuntu installation ?
[03:30] <smylanakis> :) thank you :D
[03:31] <smylanakis> i'm a newb sorry...
[03:31] <jussi01> smylanakis: go to kmenu, system, keep
[03:31] <jussi01> thats a backup tool
[03:31] <jussi01> !info keep
[03:31] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 202 kB, installed size 1156 kB
[03:31] <smylanakis> ok nice
[03:31] <smylanakis> and then ?
[03:32] <jacob_> @rch!Pi9
[03:32] <smylanakis> i am trying to backup but nothing seems to happen.. i mean no window comes up showing me that i have done something right !
[03:32] <smylanakis> :D
[03:34] <AphGab> Can someone help me out with a KVM Switch issue?
[03:34] <jussi01> smylanakis: Im sorry, Ive never used it before
[03:34] <jussi01> gnight all
[03:35] <smylanakis> :D i doesn't matter my frind.. thanx a lot for your help
[03:35] <jussi01> smylanakis: no probs. good night
[03:35] <smylanakis> good night !!!
[03:35] <AphGab> Is There any way that I can edit the purpose of keys?
[03:38] <jdt> Hi, I have an issue with Kmail using IMAP where every time I check for a new message, it downloads a new copy of my messages, so I end up with duplicates / triplicates, etc until I delete the messages.. Has anyone experienced this?
[03:41] <pollyo> Anyone here use myspace with kubuntu?
[03:42] <euphoria> ya :-/
[03:42] <pollyo> With konqueror?
[03:42] <computer> !ndiswrapper
[03:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:42] <euphoria> ye
[03:42] <Minataku> cpu0 at mainbus0: MIPS R4400 CPU (0x450) Rev. 5.0 with MIPS R4010 FPC Rev. 0.0
[03:42] <Minataku> :3
[03:43] <pollyo> euphoria: Do you have to select each picture you want to upload or can you select multiple pictures?
[03:43] <AphGab> How do I edit xkbmap?
[03:43] <euphoria> hrmmm idk havent uploaded pics using it
[03:44] <rdvon> i've got a confusing question...
[03:44] <AphGab> Anyone?  XKBMAP assistance?  Just need to know how to edit it / where it is located....
[03:45] <rdvon> I made a new user called computer, and its using my desktop instead of its own (it says in the terminal computer@rdvon-desktop)
[03:45] <pollyo> Anyone use konqueror with myspace?
[03:46] <euphoria> tht the name of your box isnt it rdvon
[03:46] <rdvon> what?
[03:47] <rdvon> oh, forgot to tell that when i login to my user (rdvon) it wont let me move anything on that desktop.
[03:47] <euphoria> "computer" is the username and "rdvon-desktop" is what you  named your computer when u installed eh
[03:47] <rdvon> or change or manipulate in anyway.
[03:47] <AphGab> Anyone?  XKBMAP assistance?  Just need to know how to edit it / where it is located....
[03:48] <el_isma> Hello. I have an ssh server, but it doesn't work unless I'm using it from internet (ie: can't do ssh localhost) Any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:49] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit XKBMAP or where I can find it to edit it?
[03:55] <hammerpunk> ok i'm back
[03:55] <morph_> hello all
[03:55] <morph_> anyone used XQDE before?
[03:55] <vinicius> alguem de brasil?
[03:55] <morph_> would like to have a mac like tool bar
[03:56] <hammerpunk> i have a question, my dvd drive won't boot bootable discs, is there any other way to partition the hard drive without formatting so that i can have a partition to install kubuntu on?
[03:56] <vinicius> BRASIL????
[03:56] <vinicius> BRASIL??????????
[03:57] <jacob_> can somebody explain to me how to specifically install mozilla thunderbird, step by step?
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <hammerpunk> i suspect an immediate kick/ban
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <vinicius> BRASIL?????????
[03:57] <morph_> hope so
[03:58] <jacob_> Somebody please help me how to install mozilla thunderbird step by step?
[03:58] <Minataku> vinicius: This is #kubuntu, not Brazil
[03:58] <jdt> jacob_:  in the console - sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:59] <morph_> cant you use adept to install thunderbird
[03:59] <vinicius> ok Minakatu :)
[03:59] <Minataku> By the way
[03:59] <jdt> jacob_: this will install it...
[03:59] <Minataku> !br | vinicius
[03:59] <ubotu> vinicius: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:59] <Minataku> Try there instead X3
[03:59] <jacob_> brb
[03:59] <vinicius> Thank You
[03:59] <vinicius> minakatu
[04:00] <morph_> so anyone use a nice mac like dock
[04:00] <morph_> i tried kiba
[04:01] <hammerpunk> i suspect an immediate kick/ban
[04:01] <hammerpunk> i have a question, my dvd drive won't boot bootable discs, is there any other way to partition the hard drive without formatting so that i can have a partition to install kubuntu on?
[04:01] <omar> can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:02] <omar> can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:02] <omar> can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:03] <omar> can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:03] <omar> can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:03] <rdvon> !ndiswrapper
[04:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:03] <omar>  can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:04] <jacob_> can somebody please help me install mozilla thunderbird, i'm new a kubuntu
[04:04] <el_isma> so today is spamming day?
[04:04] <el_isma> so today is spamming day?
[04:04] <el_isma> so today is spamming day?
[04:04] <AphGab> Does anyone know how to edit keymappings in Linux?  I want to change the Scroll Lock key to do absolutely nothing...
[04:05] <omar> jacob go to add or remove tool
[04:06] <jacob_> ok
[04:06] <jacob_> go on omar
[04:07] <omar> then chose internet
[04:07] <jacob_> ok
[04:07] <jacob_> oh ok, thanks a lot amn
[04:07] <jacob_> man
[04:07] <omar> you found the program you want fire fox thunder
[04:08] <jacob_> yeah thx
[04:08] <jacob_> hey, is it ok if i can get your email
[04:08] <jacob_> so i can contact you when i need help
[04:08] <omar>   can one tell me where can i found how to make freeradius on ubuntu
[04:08] <jacob_> i take that as a no
[04:09] <jacob_> i won't use it for spam, just when i have trouble with ubuntu
[04:09] <jacob_> otherwise just say no
[04:09] <omar> yes
[04:10] <jacob_> ok thx
[04:10] <omar> but you will translate becouse im nat good in english
[04:11] <jacob_> before you give me your email, how can open a text program
[04:11] <omar> love.aqsa@msn.com
[04:12] <nicolas> trop tard
[04:16] <omar> jacob
[04:16] <jacob_> yeah?
[04:16] <omar> go applicatin
[04:16] <jacob_> what?
[04:17] <omar> to open text program
[04:17] <jacob_> yeah....
[04:17] <omar> application
[04:17] <omar> office
[04:17] <omar> you found many program
[04:18] <omar> mny
[04:18] <jacob_> ok
[04:19] <omar> or go add and remove and go office to dwonload what you want
[04:20] <jacob_> OK, THX
[04:21] <jacob_> listen omar, i got to disconnect from the internet for a while
[04:21] <jacob_> i'll be back online
[04:21] <jacob_> installing wireless connection, gatta test it out
[04:22] <jacob_> i'm wired
[04:26] <omar> no becouse ubuntu no support for all wireless device if youre device not found in ubuntu go to youer device webpage and download the supported for linux
[04:27] <jacob_> i'm back
[04:27] <julius> success?
[04:27] <jacob_> i was just trying to connect wirelessly
[04:27] <jacob_> no
[04:28] <julius> what chipset
[04:28] <coreymon77> jacob_: ill try to help
[04:28] <coreymon77> jacob_: we need the chipset
[04:28] <jacob_> i see the listed routers but my router is protected by a web key
[04:28] <julius> ah
[04:28] <jacob_> web key
[04:28] <julius> wep?
[04:28] <julius> or WPA
[04:28] <jacob_> let me see
[04:28] <julius> WPA is a pain in the arse
[04:28] <coreymon77> jacob_: if its wep, thats easy
[04:29] <julius> and if you grab aircrackng you can get the wep key for any active network :p
[04:29] <coreymon77> julius: shouldnt he know the wep key for his own network?
[04:29] <jacob_> ok
[04:29] <coreymon77> jacob_: what
[04:30] <jacob_>  i can't get connected
[04:30] <julius> because?
[04:30] <jacob_> an error showed up, let me tell you what the error says
[04:30] <jacob_> "connection faild would you like to review settings for this network?
[04:31] <dr_willis> doh - went to work and left IRC on all day. :)
[04:31] <coreymon77> jacob_: try this
[04:31] <coreymon77> jacob_: do you know what the interface name is?
[04:31] <jacob_> the name of the router that shows up ?
[04:31] <coreymon77> jacob_: eth0, ath0, ra0
[04:31] <coreymon77> jacob_: that type of thing
[04:31] <jacob_> i'm actually a windows user, don't understand this interface much cause it's my first day on linux
[04:32] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay, open up a konsole window
[04:32] <jacob_> it's called jacob
[04:32] <julius> when the module (driver) sets up the device it gives it a device name, each module does it differently
[04:32] <julius> type in iwconfig
[04:32] <omar> coremon77 _: do yuo know how make server with freeradius and mysql in ubuntu
[04:32] <jacob_> ok
[04:32] <coreymon77> you have a _ in your nick, hence thats why im using it
[04:32] <morph_> ok found kooldock
[04:32] <morph_> looks good
[04:32] <morph_> easy to use
[04:33] <omar> coremon77 _: do yuo know how make server with freeradius and mysql in ubuntu
[04:33] <jacob_> ok
[04:33] <coreymon77> omar: no
[04:33] <omar> thx
[04:33] <jacob_> i opened up the konsole
[04:33] <coreymon77> jacob_: so, which one of the interaces has the most information enxt to it
[04:33] <coreymon77> jacob_: type iwconfig
[04:34] <jacob_> it says no wireless extensions
[04:34] <coreymon77> at all?
[04:34] <jacob_> IEEE 802.11
[04:34] <julius> then your card isnt setup properly
[04:34] <coreymon77> jacob_: wait
[04:34] <coreymon77> jacob_: dont paste everything
[04:34] <coreymon77> jacob_: go to www.pastebin.ca
[04:35] <coreymon77> jacob_: and put the stuff there
[04:35] <jacob_> listen, you want to use hotmail messenger to chat?
[04:35] <jacob_> it's uncomfortable here
[04:35] <coreymon77> jacob_: sorry
[04:35] <coreymon77> jacob_: i only give my hotmail to people i know
[04:35] <jacob_> to many things that up here
[04:35] <coreymon77> jacob_: you'll get used to it
[04:35] <jacob_> how about yahoo or gmail
[04:35] <coreymon77> jacob_: i was a little shy at first myself
[04:35] <coreymon77> jacob_: dont worry, we are all ncie here
[04:35] <jacob_> ok never mind, what is it that you need me to copy and past?
[04:36] <coreymon77> jacob_: when you typed iwconfig, did it only say "no wireless extensions" or did it say something more?
[04:36] <jacob_> you said don't paste everything
[04:36] <LolBR> hello , can some1 please help me, my wlan goes to some kind of idle state in maximum of 2 and 2 minutes using kubuntu, how can i turn it off ?
[04:36] <jacob_> it said no wireless extensions and more
[04:36] <coreymon77> jacob_: go to www.pastebin.ca
[04:36] <coreymon77> jacob_: and paste the stuff in there
[04:37] <jacob_> submit post?
[04:37] <jacob_> after pasting?
[04:37] <coreymon77> jacob_: yes
[04:37] <coreymon77> jacob_: and then aste the url of the post into the channel
[04:38] <coreymon77> paste*
[04:39] <cocoflan> https://launchpad.net/cocoflan
[04:39] <jacob_> if you want to tell me something, to post it up, let's chat in this program
[04:39] <jacob_> don't post it up*
[04:39] <coreymon77> jacob_: copy and paste the url of your pastebin post
[04:39] <cocoflan> https://launchpad.net/cocoflan
[04:40] <jacob_> i clicked on submit post
[04:40] <K-Ryan> Then you have to paste the url in this chat
[04:40] <K-Ryan> Otherwise we can't find it
[04:40] <coreymon77> jacob_: yes, and it gave you a url right?
[04:40] <cocoflan> https://launchpad.net/cocoflan
[04:41] <jacob_> oh ok, i see what i'm doin wrog
[04:41] <jacob_> wait
[04:41] <coreymon77> jacob_: copy and paste the url that is in you adress bar right now
[04:41] <coreymon77> jacob_: it should be www.pastebin.ca/[some number] 
[04:42] <jacob_> 599245
[04:42] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay
[04:43] <coreymon77> jacob_: good, so your interface name is wlan0, remember that for whenever you have wireless problems
[04:43] <LolBR> hello , can some1 please help me, my wlan goes to some kind of idle state in maximum of 2 and 2 minutes using kubuntu, how can i turn it off ?
[04:43] <coreymon77> jacob_: now, is your network using a wep key or a wpa key
[04:43] <jacob_> wep
[04:44] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay, now, do you know the essid and the wep key of your network
[04:44] <jacob_> essid?
[04:44] <coreymon77> jacob_: you know, network name
[04:45] <jacob_> how do i obtain my essid? through my router settings?
[04:45] <jacob_> it's also jacob
[04:45] <coreymon77> jacob_: what is your network called
[04:45] <jacob_> jacob
[04:45] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay, that is your essid
[04:45] <jacob_> correct.
[04:45] <coreymon77> jacob_: now, what we are going to do now is the iwconfig command
[04:45] <coreymon77> jacob_: this will tell linux what network to connect to
[04:46] <coreymon77> jacob_: in konsole
[04:46] <jacob_> again?
[04:46] <coreymon77> jacob_: type sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid jacob key [your wep key] 
[04:47] <jacob_> type in key or type it in
[04:47] <jacob_> or both?
[04:47] <coreymon77> type in key and then put in the wep key
[04:47] <coreymon77> and type essid infront of jacob
[04:48] <jacob_> type in what i need to put in the konsole again, you confused me
[04:49] <coreymon77> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid jacob key [your wep key] 
[04:49] <jacob_> ok
[04:49] <coreymon77> type that exact command but replace [your wep key]  with whatever your wep key is
[04:49] <jacob_> give me a sec to put it in
[04:49] <jacob_> ok
[04:50] <jacob_> it's asking for a password
[04:50] <coreymon77> type in your account password
[04:50] <coreymon77> the one you used to login
[04:50] <jacob_> ok
[04:50] <coreymon77> done?
[04:50] <jacob_> yes
[04:50] <coreymon77> okay
[04:50] <coreymon77> it should be working now
[04:51] <jacob_> ok, i'll be ofline for a while
[04:51] <jacob_> cause i'm wired
[04:51] <coreymon77> jacob_: no you wont
[04:51] <coreymon77> jacob_: just take out the wire
[04:51] <jacob_> ah ok
[04:51] <coreymon77> jacob_: is the wire out? can you still see this?
[04:53] <jacob_> hello?
[04:53] <jacob_> it didn't work
[04:53] <coreymon77> jacob_: didnt?
[04:53] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay
[04:53] <coreymon77> jacob_: take out thw ire
[04:53] <coreymon77> jacob_: and then try to type the command again
[04:54] <jacob_> it didn't work
[04:54] <zibrah3ed> why not use knetworkmanager
[04:54] <zibrah3ed> or is this an exercise in cli
[04:54] <jacob_> coreymon77...
[04:54] <jacob_> it didn't work
[04:54] <coreymon77> jacob_: thats odd
[04:54] <coreymon77> zibrah3ed: you take it over
[04:55] <coreymon77> zibrah3ed: i gtg for a bit
[04:55] <jacob_> ok
[04:55] <zibrah3ed> jacob_: have you tried to use knetworkmanager
[04:55] <coreymon77> zibrah3ed: i tend not to trust knetworkmanager, doesnt work alot in mty experience, i rather the konsole iwconfig method
[04:55] <coreymon77> zibrah3ed: or the system settings network settings method
[04:55] <LolBR> can anybody tell me, please, how to make a fast script file (like a .bat file in dos system) that will run a cmd line on a terminal window of kubuntu repeating itself till i break it ?
[04:55] <zibrah3ed> yeah agree but if you are new its a lot easier than the terminal
[04:55] <jacob_> i used network manager but i need to set it up to get connected cause i have a wep key
[04:57] <jacob_> hold up, i was just out for a few now i don't know where i left off
[04:57] <jacob_> give me a sec.
[04:57] <sparr> the ubuntu clamav packages complain to my cron logs (and thus my email) that they are out of date.  is this a bug?  i dont want to know if there isnt a new package yet
[04:58] <LolBR> can anybody tell me, please, how to make a fast script file (like a .bat file in dos system) that will run a cmd line on a terminal window of a linux os, repeating itself till i break it ?
[04:58] <zibrah3ed> google bash scripting
[04:58] <jacob_> ok coreymon, when ever you are ready
[04:59] <zibrah3ed> jacob: think he left
[04:59] <jacob_> no, he's still in the list
[04:59] <zibrah3ed> jacob: type in "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[05:00] <setuid_w00t> I want to try out kubuntu.  Currently I am using Debian Sid installed using LVM on IDE disks.  Should it be possible to use my current volume setup without losing data on all of my filesystems if I install kubuntu using the alternate disc?  Specifically, I want to save /home
[05:00] <jacob_> ok wait
[05:00] <zibrah3ed> Don't format your home partition on install
[05:02] <jacob_> ok what now
[05:02] <jacob_> zibrah?
[05:03] <zibrah3ed> jacob: did it do anything?
[05:03] <zibrah3ed> jacob: ie no running dhcp servers ...etc
[05:03] <jacob_> let me disconnect from the wired
[05:03] <jacob_> and use wireless to see if it worked
[05:04] <prometeo> buenas
[05:05] <prometeo> como va???
[05:05] <coreymon77> zibrah3ed: any luck?
[05:05] <coreymon77> okay
[05:05] <coreymon77> now the !es rush begins
[05:05] <zibrah3ed> corey: no
[05:05] <zibrah3ed> at least i don't think so
[05:05] <jacob_> it didn't work zibrah
[05:05] <coreymon77> zibrah3ed: lets try the system settings method
[05:05] <zibrah3ed> go to town
[05:05] <coreymon77> jacob_: try this
[05:05] <coreymon77> jacob_: open up system settings
[05:06] <jacob_> ok
[05:06] <jacob_> done
[05:06] <coreymon77> jacob_: and go to network settings
[05:06] <jacob_> ok
[05:06] <coreymon77> jacob_: down to administrator mode, and type in your password
[05:07] <jacob_> the button is barely visible, i need to adjust my monitor settings, how do i do that really quick?
[05:07] <coreymon77> jacob_: just scroll down
[05:07] <coreymon77> jacob_: cant you?
[05:07] <jacob_> brb
[05:07] <jacob_> yes
[05:07] <jacob_> brb
[05:08] <jacob_> ok back
[05:08] <jacob_> ok, just entered my password
[05:09] <coreymon77> jacob_: you see wlan0 there in the list?
[05:09] <jacob_> yes
[05:10] <coreymon77> jacob_: click configure
[05:10] <coreymon77> jacob_: i mean, click on wlan0 and then click configure
[05:10] <jacob_> ok
[05:11] <jacob_> i'm 16/male by the way
[05:11] <jacob_> just to let you know
[05:11] <coreymon77> jacob_: did you set a static ip for your computer, or do you just have it set by dhcp?
[05:12] <jacob_> i don't understand that, but let me check
[05:12] <coreymon77> jacob_: its dhcp by default, so, unless you set it otherwise
[05:12] <coreymon77> jacob_: thats what it is
[05:12] <jacob_> yes
[05:12] <jacob_> but it's on manual
[05:13] <coreymon77> jacob_: what, you set it to manual
[05:13] <jacob_> somebody was trying to fix it for me
[05:13] <coreymon77> jacob_: oh
[05:13] <coreymon77> jacob_: so you have that all set up?
[05:13] <coreymon77> okay
[05:13] <jacob_> that man tried to set it all up
[05:13] <coreymon77> jacob_: is activate when computer starts checked?
[05:13] <jacob_> but still failed
[05:14] <jacob_> yes
[05:14] <jacob_> do you want it automatic?, it was like that at first
[05:14] <joshua__> i'm in need of a bit of help
[05:14] <coreymon77> jacob_: no
[05:14] <coreymon77> jacob_: doesnt matter
[05:14] <jacob_> ok
[05:15] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay, is your essid and wep key entered into the boxes
[05:15] <coreymon77> ?
[05:15] <jacob_> let's sociallize a bit as we try to figure this thing to make it a bit more interesting.....if you want
[05:15] <zibrah3ed> omg
[05:15] <jacob_> no
[05:15] <coreymon77> jacob_: well then
[05:15] <coreymon77> jacob_: out your info into the boxes
[05:15] <coreymon77> put*
[05:15] <LolBR> how can i run a bash script (ex : loop.sh) on kubuntu ?
[05:16] <coreymon77> put jacob into the essid and your wep key into the wep key box
[05:16] <coreymon77> jacob_: and i assume your wep key is hexidecimal?
[05:17] <coreymon77> jacob_: as in 10 characters long consisting of letters and numbers
[05:17] <jacob_> it has numbers and letters
[05:17] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay, then choose hexidecimal as the key type
[05:17] <jacob_> it's not longer than 10 characters i think
[05:17] <jacob_> ok it's 10
[05:18] <coreymon77> jacob_: okay, choose hexidecimal as key type
[05:18] <jhutchins> One of the MS implementations requres exactly the right number of characters.
[05:18] <jacob_> OK
[05:18] <jacob_> click ok?
[05:18] <coreymon77> jacob_: so, you have all the information put in the right boxes?
[05:18] <jacob_> yes
[05:19] <MaTiAz> LolBR: Open konsole, navigate to the dir with the script and do ./script.sh?
[05:19] <coreymon77> jacob_: is activate when computer starts boxed?
[05:19] <joshua__> Hi, I need some help with screen resolutions
[05:19] <jacob_> yes
[05:19] <coreymon77> jacob_: press okay
[05:19] <jacob_> ok
[05:20] <coreymon77> jacob_: go to routes
[05:20] <jacob_> ok
[05:20] <coreymon77> and put in your routers ip address
[05:20] <jhutchins> !fixres : joshua__
[05:20] <jacob_> i need to look that up give me a sek
[05:21] <jacob_> ah ok, i got it
[05:21] <coreymon77> jacob_: its the ip adress that you put in to get to your router settings
[05:21] <jacob_> let me put it in
[05:21] <jacob_> yes
[05:21] <coreymon77> jacob_: usually 192.168.1.1
[05:21] <jhutchins> We really have joshua__ and jacob_ on line together here.  Special.
[05:21] <TrueFX> how can cp a file as different extensions in the same directory?
[05:21] <TrueFX> echo perl.pl|tee perl.ph perl.pm perl.cgi perl.xs
[05:21] <joshua__> lol
[05:21] <TrueFX> ????
[05:21] <jhutchins> !fixres : joshua__
[05:21] <jacob_> wait
[05:21] <joshua__> !fixres
[05:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:22] <jhutchins> Ach, wrong deliminter.
[05:22] <coreymon77> jacob_: what
[05:22] <coreymon77> jacob_: whats the matter
[05:22] <jhutchins> Gettin' pretty noisy here.  Count down to 7/4.
[05:22] <jacob_> give me that number again
[05:22] <coreymon77> jhutchins: ??
[05:22] <jacob_> i know it's the correct one
[05:22] <LolBR> can anyone tell me why KUBUNTU disables wlan card in intervals of 2 minutes ?
[05:23] <coreymon77> LolBR: it doesnt
[05:23] <coreymon77> jacob_: dont use my number unless you are sure its correct
[05:23] <andre_> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[05:23] <andre_> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[05:23] <coreymon77> jacob_: its usually this one, but not always
[05:23] <jacob_> i know it's the correct one
[05:23] <jhutchins> Wednesday will look like a toy Baghdad here.
[05:23] <jacob_> im using a linksys router
[05:23] <andre_> anybody could help me?
[05:24] <LolBR> coreymon77: i'm trying to scan wifi interface, ive measured , 2 minutes it shuts it down
[05:24] <andre_> I was having problem with  this
[05:24] <andre_> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[05:24] <andre_> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[05:24] <joshua__> jhutchins: also, how would I go about moving from 640 to 1024? i'm having issues with a forced output to a philips monitor because my lcd is gone to pot
[05:24] <andre_> I'm trying to install wine
[05:24] <jacob_> it's set to 192.168.1.1 but i don't know if it's the correct one
[05:24] <jhutchins> andreYou haven't told us what you're trying to do.
[05:24] <coreymon77> jacob_: that should be right
[05:24] <jhutchins> joshua__: Did you read fixres/
[05:24] <jhutchins> ?
[05:24] <andre_> I'm trying to install wine
[05:25] <jacob_> ok
[05:25] <coreymon77> jacob_: oh and btw, is your network name jacob or Jacob
[05:25] <andre_> no
[05:25] <jacob_> let me see...
[05:25] <coreymon77> jacob_: its very important to know which
[05:25] <andre_> what means fixers?
[05:25] <zibrah3ed> all lowercase or is it capitalized
[05:25] <jhutchins> !fixres
[05:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:25] <jacob_> i'm checkin in the wirelesss assictance
[05:26] <jacob_> it's Jacob
[05:26] <coreymon77> jacob_: one thing about linux is that case matters
[05:26] <coreymon77> jacob_: oh!
[05:26] <coreymon77> jacob_: well then that explains why the iwconfig command didnt work
[05:26] <coreymon77> jacob_: go back to the first window and back to configure
[05:26] <TooEarly> i'm using Kubuntu Feisty Fawn, and when I use firefox and go to digg.com (or other sites that use JS) it goes extremely slow. anyone know what i could do?
[05:27] <jacob_> change it to a capital letter?
[05:27] <DerekS> i have a weird problem
[05:27] <coreymon77> jacob_: yup
[05:27] <DerekS> i plugged in my flash drive
[05:27] <DerekS> then unplugged it without unmounting
[05:27] <jacob_> and then click ok? right?
[05:27] <coreymon77> jacob_: yes
[05:27] <jacob_> alright go on
[05:28] <DerekS> now i get this repeatedly in my /var/log/messages:
[05:28] <DerekS> Jul  1 23:27:46 Rufus kernel: [448140.107269]  sdc : sense not available.
[05:28] <DerekS> Jul  1 23:27:46 Rufus kernel: [448140.107812]  sdc: Write Protect is off
[05:28] <DerekS> Jul  1 23:27:46 Rufus kernel: [448140.108267]  sdc : READ CAPACITY failed.
[05:28] <DerekS> Jul  1 23:27:46 Rufus kernel: [448140.108268]  sdc : status=0, message=00, host=1, driver=00
[05:28] <DerekS> Jul  1 23:27:46 Rufus kernel: [448140.108271]  sdc : sense not available.
[05:28] <jacob_> i'll be right back 8 secs please
[05:28] <DerekS> those errors keep repeating
[05:29] <zibrah3ed> does ur flash drive work?
[05:29] <DerekS> zibrah3ed: it did
[05:29] <DerekS> i try to plug it in now
[05:29] <DerekS> and it doesn't
[05:29] <jacob_> ok, i'mback
[05:30] <zibrah3ed> "sudo umount /dev/sdc"
[05:31] <billykan> ...
[05:32] <billykan>    ~~~
[05:34] <jacob_> type that in?
[05:34] <jacob_> sudo umount /dev/sdc?
[05:34] <DerekS> that doesn't work
[05:34] <DerekS> (and from my experience it shouldn't)
[05:34] <jacob_> a problem that could be it is the driver
[05:35] <jacob_> i might need to download the correct driver
[05:35] <meloso1> hi, i am trying to log into kubuntu but when it buts it takes me to the command line area, and i need help to get back into the GUI
[05:35] <evsophomore2009> If i wanna install AIM for Kubuntu...do i choose RPM, Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+
[05:36] <fignew> evsophomore2009: AIM from AOL?
[05:36] <fignew> like the official package?
[05:36] <evsophomore2009> Yes Aol Instant Messanger
[05:36] <fignew> use Kopete
[05:36] <zibrah3ed> kopete comes with kubuntu
[05:36] <fignew> the official AIM client has ads and is very old
[05:36] <evsophomore2009> well im sick of Kopete
[05:36] <fignew> then use Gaim
[05:36] <fignew> pidgin*
[05:37] <zibrah3ed> sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:37] <zibrah3ed> sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:37] <fignew> yes
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> i dont want Gaim either
[05:37] <zibrah3ed> what do you want to use then
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> AIM
[05:37] <fignew> well, then, no offence, but you're wierd
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> for Linux
[05:37] <zibrah3ed> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:37] <fignew> no
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> im weird because i hate Gaim and Kopete
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> yeah
[05:37] <fignew> theres a native linux version
[05:37] <zibrah3ed> install wine
[05:38] <jhutchins> evsophomore2009: Perhaps what you are sick of is AOL.
[05:38] <zibrah3ed> lol
[05:38] <meloso1> hi, i am trying to log into kubuntu GUI, but when it boots it takes me to the command line area, and i need help to get back into the GUI ITS GIVING ME AN FATAL SERVER ERROR: No screens found
[05:38] <evsophomore2009> i dont have AOL
[05:38] <jhutchins> evsophomore2009: Discover teh raw intarwebs.
[05:38] <fignew> yes, because Debian 2.1 is from like 7 years ago :P
[05:38] <evsophomore2009> So if i wanna install AIM, do i choose RPM, Debian 2.1 or Debain 3+
[05:38] <zibrah3ed> aol keyword linux
[05:38] <fignew> debian 3+
[05:38] <fignew> enjoy the ads
[05:39] <zibrah3ed> well debian 3+ would be safest
[05:39] <evsophomore2009> whats the differnece?
[05:39] <zibrah3ed> personally i wouldn't install any of those
[05:39] <fignew> debian 2.1 is from friggin 7 years ago
[05:39] <meloso1> hi, i am trying to log into kubuntu GUI, but when it boots it takes me to the command line area, and i need help to get back into the GUI ITS GIVING ME AN FATAL SERVER ERROR: No screens found
[05:39] <zibrah3ed> RPM "Redhat package manager"
[05:39] <andre_> Anybody helps me? I'm trying install wine but apear this message for me
[05:39] <andre_> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[05:39] <andre_> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[05:39] <zibrah3ed> not intended for ubuntu
[05:40] <fignew> andre_ dont run it as root
[05:40] <evsophomore2009> What about iTunes, does iTunes work on WINE? i tried and i couldnt figure it out
[05:40] <meloso1> hey can you read me?
[05:40] <fignew> meloso1: yes
[05:40] <andre_> I'm loged as a root
[05:40] <evsophomore2009> Meloso1: yes i can see what your writing
[05:40] <meloso1> oh ok
[05:40] <evsophomore2009> However i cannot help you
[05:41] <fignew> !X | meloso1
[05:41] <ubotu> meloso1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:41] <zibrah3ed> melos: did you just try to  install new graphics card drivers
[05:41] <jhutchins> andre_: Are you using the standard kubunt apt tools, or are you trying to insatll it some other way?
[05:42] <fignew> andre_, yes, run it as user
[05:42] <andre_> I'm using a gnome theme....
[05:43] <meloso1> zibvr..: yeah i tried to update to my new NVIDIA graphics card
[05:43] <andre_> I'm trying to instal counter strike source ...the wine is installed but when I run this command winecfg apeear this message for x11 and ...
[05:44] <andre_> I just read http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto this link and folow this steps
[05:45] <andre_> but doesnt run yet
[05:45] <K-Ryan> Anyone know of a console based chat program? One that I could use with AIM?
[05:45] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: naim
[05:45] <zibrah3ed> k-ryan: simpleaim
[05:45] <evsophomore2009> K-Ryan: Kopete and Gaim
[05:46] <marcelol> Hello....
[05:46] <mordaunt> he said console based evsophomore2009
[05:46] <marcelol> <- stupid question alert
[05:46] <K-Ryan> marcelol: Shoot
[05:46] <zibrah3ed> <-stupid answer alert
[05:46] <mordaunt> <-stupid shooting alert
[05:46] <mordaunt> :o
[05:46] <zibrah3ed> lolz
[05:46] <marcelol> I created a swap partition ( 2Gb  on i386 system )....activated it via System Manager..i.e. fstab has an entry for
[05:46] <evsophomore2009> Well....What is Console Based?
[05:47] <zibrah3ed> evo: terminal
[05:47] <marcelol> but when I load a couple of browsers..etc.....my memory reaches it's limit...and ......there's ZERO swap partition usage
[05:47] <marcelol> it's as it there's no swap enabled, even though the system shows the part active and "free" shows I have plenty of space
[05:48] <zibrah3ed> marcelol: Linux automatically caches files for speed, if they aren't needed by the program u started they are dyumped in favor of the ones needed for your application
[05:48] <marcelol> zibrah3ed: huh ?
[05:48] <evsophomore2009> Mordaunt: Whats Console Based?
[05:48] <marcelol> shouldn't there by some swapping already going on ...
[05:49] <zibrah3ed> Marcelol: just becasue the ram is reading totally used doesn't mean it is
[05:49] <K-Ryan> Anyone have experience running naim?
[05:49] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: i have
[05:49] <K-Ryan> How would I go about connecting?
[05:49] <K-Ryan> =)
[05:49] <marcelol> but the swap partition says it's completely empty
[05:49] <mordaunt>  /connect
[05:49] <K-Ryan> Unable to connect: Connection failed (Unknown host).
[05:49] <marcelol> SysGuard shows how much space swap has available/free...and it's completely empty
[05:50] <euphoria> hi everyone, can anybody please help me to get beryl to run by default when i start kubuntu?
[05:50] <zibrah3ed> marcelol: i have 1 gig ram and i hardly ever see more than 10mb of swap being used
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> euphoria: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:50] <mordaunt> do a vmstat marcelol
[05:50] <zibrah3ed> Marcelol: Your swap partition is excessively sized, it doesn't need to be anymore than 512 mb
[05:50] <euphoria> ok thanks
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> zibrah3ed: anecdotal evidence isn't.
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> 1 to 1.5 times your physical RAM is traditionally recommended for swap space...
[05:52] <marcelol> zibrah3ed:  So......what you're saying is I should shrink it down ? What if I want hibernate this puppy ?
[05:52] <marcelol> ok..so then this should be cool..
[05:52] <marcelol> I have 1.5Gb of ram ....and swap is 2Gb
[05:52] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: still having problems?
[05:52] <zibrah3ed> Generally most agreed that the old rule of thumb, 2 x actual RAM is no
[05:52] <zibrah3ed> longer in force and has not been in force since SVR4 became available.
[05:52] <marcelol> which seems reasonable to me..
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> you should be just fine
[05:52] <K-Ryan> Yeah mordaunt
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> zibrah3ed: i didn't say 2x
[05:52] <K-Ryan> Unknown host
[05:52] <mordaunt> which protocol are you trying to connect to?
[05:53] <mordaunt> aol?
[05:53] <rdvon> i got wireless working in gnome... but I'm not sure how to do it in kde.
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> well anyway, stalker half-runs
[05:53] <K-Ryan> AIM
[05:53] <K-Ryan> So AOL I guess
[05:53] <rdvon> !wireless
[05:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:53] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: run naim at command line. type in /connect screename  <-- that's all you need to do
[05:54] <K-Ryan> my screen name happens to be more than one wod
[05:54] <K-Ryan> *word
[05:54] <marcelol> !3 world
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 world - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <K-Ryan> I think that's the problem
[05:54] <marcelol> !3d world
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d world - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: put quotes around it
[05:54] <marcelol> !3dworld
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3dworld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Minataku> !botabuse
[05:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:54] <marcelol> Hmm
[05:54] <marcelol> sorry
[05:55] <K-Ryan> Now it works >.>
[05:55] <Minataku> It's okay
[05:55] <K-Ryan> Thanks ;)
[05:55] <mordaunt> np =)
[05:55] <mordaunt> naim is terrible for irc
[05:55] <zibrah3ed> K-Ryan : screen\ name
[05:56] <K-Ryan> quotes worked
[05:56] <mordaunt> i submitted some patches to make it usable but dan reed kept postponing the addition till later
[05:56] <andre_> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[05:56] <andre_> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[05:56] <andre_> What i have to do?
[05:57] <meloso1> AlL RIGHT THANKS TO YOU ALL GOT IT DONE
[05:57] <K-Ryan> Hah, this is so cool
[05:57] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: it's great for chatting from work
[05:57] <mordaunt> it looks like you're doing work =D
[05:57] <K-Ryan> Haha
[05:57] <meloso1> Oh what about if a have a Samsung printer how can i install the driver for this printer??
[05:57] <mordaunt> and all your stuff stays at home and the company can't spy on you ;)
[05:58] <wxrkny> I am trying to make my kubuntu run a little faster by stopping unnecessary processes, how do you stop them on start up?
[05:58] <wxrkny> ex: kbluetoothd since the computer doesnt have bluetooth
[05:58] <computer> !wireless
[05:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:59] <mordaunt> K-Ryan: it auto starts a screen session around itself so you ctrlA-D to detach
[05:59] <meloso1> where can i find info about Installing printer drivers??
[05:59] <dr_willis> depends on the printer.. but cups.org is the place to check to see if its even supported
[06:00] <meloso1> AIGHT thanks
[06:01] <rdv0n> wow. i just wasted my whole day trying to get wireless internet working!
[06:01] <rdv0n> im planning on getting the printer working.. which should take up most of the night ;)
[06:01] <rdv0n> dr_willis: awesome.
[06:02] <Minataku> Heya, dr_willis
[06:02] <dr_willis> Hay Minataku
[06:02] <rdv0n> i had a wire running through my room, than through the kitchen, than to the computer.
[06:02] <meloso1> dr_willis : its that page explains how to install them too??
[06:02] <rdv0n> I got kinda sick of it...
[06:02] <dr_willis> meloso1,  depends on the printer..
[06:02] <rdv0n> !printing
[06:02] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:02] <dr_willis> ubuntu inclused  printer config files for most all the common printers.. the repos got a few more.
[06:03] <meloso1> Samsung 2150 pcl
[06:03] <dr_willis> LOOK on the cups.org site and see if that thing has any support at all.
[06:03] <rdv0n> I'm going to try the printer sharing...
[06:03] <meloso1> aight
[06:04] <rdv0n> yay! knetwork manager is finished installing :D
[06:05] <rdv0n> I'm about to disconnect the wire...
[06:05] <rdv0n> should i do it? 0_0
[06:05] <dr_willis> i doubt it.
[06:06] <rdv0n> it says it is connected to the router...
[06:06] <rdv0n> i think im going to do it...
[06:06] <hendaus> hiya all
[06:07] <wsjunior> which package is needed to show movies previews?
[06:08] <rd_v0n> well.... someone should kick rdv0n
[06:08] <rd_v0n> but it works!!
[06:08] <rd_v0n> im untethered by this 60 ft. lan cable at last!
[06:09] <rd_v0n> no one wants to celebrate?
[06:09] <rd_v0n> woooh
[06:10] <rd_v0n> that was actually... kinda... easy...
[06:10] <rd_v0n> thank god for !wireless
[06:10] <K-Ryan> The bot does seem to serve its purpose, doesn't it?
[06:10] <MaTiAz> yeah
[06:10] <rd_v0n> yes, yes indeed.
[06:11] <rd_v0n> lets see for sure.
[06:11] <rd_v0n> !printing
[06:11] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:11] <rd_v0n> mmmhmmm it does.
[06:11] <dr_willis> !info pornview
[06:11] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (feisty), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB
[06:11] <dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <rd_v0n> :)
[06:11] <rd_v0n> gross.
[06:11] <rd_v0n> but funny!
[06:11] <rd_v0n> !bill gates
[06:11] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:11] <Minataku> dr_willis: Still entertaining?
[06:11] <dr_willis> Minataku,  yep..
[06:11] <rd_v0n> !bill
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <dr_willis> its midnight and the 5 yr old is hyped up on icecream and sugar
[06:12] <rd_v0n> i like the bot over at #suse better.
[06:12] <rd_v0n> its a funny bot.
[06:12] <Minataku> dr_willis: Ah... well... still waiting on those Amigas... just a reminder XD
[06:12] <dr_willis> Yep. RIght now I got a Pool Table in the middle of the woodshop where all the junk is at..
[06:12] <Minataku> Heehee, sorry X3
[06:12] <sparr> uoq s,ndo 
[06:12] <dr_willis> but i got a table at least to set them up on to test.
[06:12] <Minataku> sparr: Dude
[06:12] <Minataku> That was awesome
[06:12] <zuziailukaszek> hy :)
 Rumour has it bill is a hoe so he prob can
[06:13] <Minataku> As for fixing it, flip the computer over
[06:13] <K-Ryan> How did he manage to do that?
[06:13] <sparr> su
[06:13] <dr_willis> heh heh
[06:13] <rd_v0n> how do you do that?
[06:13] <Minataku> Heehee, no problem
[06:13] <Minataku> Now yes, please tell us :D
[06:13] <Minataku> Upside down and backwards, if you wish
[06:14] <dr_willis> i imagine on a lot of peoples screens that looked like gibberish
[06:14] <rd_v0n> pleaaaaaaassse.
[06:14] <Minataku> dr_willis: Only on Windows machines, I imagine
[06:14] <dr_willis> uoq s,ndo 
[06:14] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: Some people recognize it
[06:14] <dr_willis> :P
[06:14] <omega> hy
[06:14] <omega> to alll
[06:14] <jontec> where can we find logs? I want to see if the log would have rendered it correctly
[06:14] <omega> from romania
[06:14] <K-Ryan> I happen to recognize upside down, backwards, and upside down and backwards
[06:15] <Minataku> It looked like trash at first
[06:15] <omega> can any one tell me how to make all my satelites  to sing
[06:15] <K-Ryan> And then you go "Wait a second..."
[06:15] <Minataku> Yeah
[06:15] <Minataku> I thought it was greek
[06:15] <Minataku> So I took a closer look
[06:15] <jontec> omega: beat 'em with a big stick
[06:15] <omega> i have an 5.1 logitech
[06:16] <rd_v0n> how do i do this printer thing?
[06:16] <jontec> omega: sorry, :D
[06:16] <omega> ok
[06:16] <omega> i have to go
[06:16] <omega> maybe later
[06:16] <omega> thanks
[06:19] <dr_willis> 'printer thing' ? how.. technical
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to make your font bold/italic/underlined or change the color of your font in naim?
[06:20] <Minataku> Heh
[06:20] <Minataku> dr_willis: It's probably some bizarre UTF-8 stuff
[06:20] <Minataku> Lemme look
[06:27] <Minataku> It's a mix of interesting UTF-8 turned characters and creative substitutions
[06:28] <Minataku> He must have spent a bit of time putting that together
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> or he has a script that will map each letter to it's turned or substituted equivalent and echo those in reverse...
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone in here willing to help me get my router to open a port
[06:31] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Well... shut up XD
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[06:31] <K-Ryan> I'm so bored =(
[06:32] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  see if ya can get this game going in WINE      http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=279075
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> stalker almost works.  it just crashes when actually going INTO the game :\
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Well then it doesn't almost work
[06:34] <K-Ryan> That's the most important part =P
[06:35] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: The source code is available, can't you compile it for linux?
[06:35] <K-Ryan> I'm not experienced with compiling at all, so I'm sure it is a dumb question
[06:35] <BigGayBill> Hello everybody
[06:35] <Minataku> You can attempt to tweak Windows source to run better in WINE
[06:35] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  i think its made with some game-designer software.. no idea :)
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: it's got ratings in the winehq between bronze and gold, so it CAN be run
[06:35] <BigGayBill> I had a question and was told to come here
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i just haven't done it
[06:36] <Minataku> I know Linear Technologies does just that with one of their LTSpice program
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: I was talking about just compiling it for Kubuntu
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Was there a problem getting it to run in Wine or something?
[06:36] <Minataku> It's a Windows program but has tweaks and a detection mechanism to activate them for WINE
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: i was responding to the almost working part :)
[06:36] <BigGayBill> I have a Tandy 1000. I want to upgrade the HDD to a 30MB and upgrade the CPU to a 286.. how and where do I get this? I bought a 386 modual and tried to fit it in there but it has too many little needles. How can I weld or smaller pins on it to make it fit?
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Oh, right =)
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> why were you sent here?
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> and this has GOT to be a troll
[06:37] <Minataku> BigGayBill: You want ##windows
[06:37] <K-Ryan> Yeah...
[06:37] <BigGayBill> well the people in the perl room sent me
[06:37] <Minataku> You got sent to the wrong place
[06:37] <Minataku> If there's nobody in there just wait
[06:37] <BigGayBill> well im in here because I want kubunti on it
[06:37] <Minataku> Forever
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> that explains a lot.  perl programmers have no soul.
[06:37] <dr_willis> You where here earlier BigGayBill ,  You should be asking in #MidgetPorn
[06:38] <K-Ryan> I won't ask what he was asking about before
[06:38] <BigGayBill> oh no i dont like midgets
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> you can't use a 386 in a 286 motherboard.  stop trying, you're just going to electrocute yourse...  you know what, go ahead :D
[06:38] <dr_willis> Suuure........ you dont.......
[06:38] <BigGayBill> im downloading a skaterboy getting rammed by two dongsbeen downloading for over a month on my 28.8
[06:38] <TheBonsai> k/b him
[06:38] <K-Ryan> !ohmy
[06:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:38] <TheBonsai> he was in other channels before
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !ops
[06:38] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[06:38] <TheBonsai> just kick that idiot
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i wouldn't do that without reason.
[06:39] <dr_willis> TheBonsai,  he was even in #windows !!
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Oh wow, that's what that does
[06:39] <TheBonsai> dr_willis: arghl :>
[06:39] <K-Ryan> I didn't realize it until just now that it would do what it does
[06:39] <BigGayBill> Bonsai im not doing anything wrong you should stop being so mean
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but you are
[06:39] <BigGayBill> IRC should be a friendly place for chatters
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you're alive, and that's wrong.
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> was that out loud?
[06:39] <dr_willis> !troll
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <dr_willis> :)
[06:39] <TheBonsai> BigGayBill: tell that #bash, #haskell and all the channels i don't know
[06:40] <K-Ryan> BigGayBill: You need a hardware oriented channel, we're sorry except this room is for the operating system that goes by the name of Kubuntu. Come back when your hardware troubles have been resolved.
[06:40] <Minataku> !ops
[06:40] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[06:40] <Minataku> I'm hoping they hear a loud ding
[06:40] <Minataku> They've usually answered by now
[06:40] <BigGayBill> ok Ryan! I will go install that on my notebook. BRB
[06:40] <K-Ryan> =)
[06:40] <dr_willis> Im suprised you dont have hardware to sell him Minataku
[06:40] <Minataku> Hobbsee: Nice work
[06:40] <K-Ryan> I got it =D
[06:40] <Minataku> You're too late
[06:40] <Daisuke_Ido> just missed him Hobbsee
[06:41] <Minataku> I think the ops set us up
[06:41] <K-Ryan> I'm laughing so hard
[06:41] <K-Ryan> You wouldn't believe it
[06:43] (TheBonsai/#kubuntu) no staff member around :) kk, bye!
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Anyone want to help me cure myself of boredom?
[06:44] <CrunchyFerrett> Depends... how much jail time am I looking at?
[06:45] <K-Ryan> However long it takes you to find something that I find interesting, or until you give up.
[06:45] <CrunchyFerrett> Are you looking for Humor, Thought inspiring, or other?
[06:46] <K-Ryan> I need something to keep me busy, but not something boring
[06:46] <CrunchyFerrett> I found this the other day, and had 30 minutes or so of amusement,
[06:46] <CrunchyFerrett> www.demotivators.com/viewall.html
[06:47] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  it aint workign with wine for ,e
[06:48] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: What happens? Just curious because I'm not "that" experienced with wine.
[06:48] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  crashes with some 'wine crashed' error. ;)
[06:48] <dr_willis> how detailed eh?
[06:49] <K-Ryan> CrunchyFerrett: "There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots." ahahahahaha
[06:49] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: I see the problem, Wine crashed!
[06:49] <CrunchyFerrett> Success!
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Indeed for the moment
[06:50] <CrunchyFerrett> if only my broadcom card had similar success
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Wireless?
[06:50] <CrunchyFerrett> yup
[06:50] <K-Ryan> I was working on my friend's laptop and he's got a Broadcom
[06:50] <K-Ryan> It was a pain and I still never got it up and running
[06:51] <CrunchyFerrett> Well, on the plus side, I manage a computer repair shop.
[06:51] <CrunchyFerrett> I'll just keep stealing customers WiFi cards until I find one that works.
[06:51] <K-Ryan> o.O
[06:52] <davascript> laptop or desktop wifi card
[06:52] <davascript> intel's work good
[06:52] <CrunchyFerrett> laptop MiniPCI
[06:52] <davascript> 2200bg :)
[06:53] <K-Ryan> Aww man, this one is so mean
[06:53] <K-Ryan> "Dreams: Dreams are like rainbows. Only idiots chase them."
[06:53] <CrunchyFerrett> sadly, the 2200 came with this laptop. It died.
[06:54] <davascript> sucks
[06:54] <dr_willis> I recall some laptops haveing  bios  that would only allos specific wireless cards. :(
[06:54] <CrunchyFerrett> Dell used to be pretty bad about that.
[06:54] <davascript> intel wouldnt allow anyone to nix their cards
[06:55] <evsophomore2009> If i wanted to add another stick of memory...i just move my original stick of memory over to the other slot, and add the new one the other slot right?
[06:56] <K-Ryan> Add the other one in the left
[06:56] <K-Ryan> That's what I would do
[06:56] <CrunchyFerrett> ...
[06:56] <CrunchyFerrett> Does it matte?R
[06:56] <CrunchyFerrett> Just stick it in
[06:56] <evsophomore2009> Yes it does
[06:56] <K-Ryan> How so?
[06:56] <dr_willis> Hmm...   I got some 'MOD' videos from my camcorder. Cant find anything tha tcan play them
[06:56] <dr_willis> file MOV004.MOD
[06:56] <dr_willis> MOV004.MOD: MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex
[06:56] <evsophomore2009> Well on Windows it screws with the memory
[06:57] <dr_willis> aha - there we go. xine wins over vlc
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> ...
[06:57] <K-Ryan> It didn't when I added
[06:57] <evsophomore2009> idk how but it screwed my pc up
[06:57] <K-Ryan> But then again, this is Kubuntu
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> Its never mattered in any system Ive worked on...
[06:57] <K-Ryan> I doubt it was the memory
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> Well, back in the 386 days it mattered...
[06:57] <evsophomore2009> well i didnt do anything but take the memory out and move it
[06:58] <evsophomore2009> But if it dosent matter on Kubuntu than who cares
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Shouldn't
[06:58] <evsophomore2009> Kay
[06:58] <CrunchyFerrett> Shouldnt matter period.
[06:58] <K-Ryan> "Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else."
[06:58] <CrunchyFerrett> Unless you've got a hosed up BIOS, or a bad port.
[06:58] <evsophomore2009> Anyone here good with Limewire?
[06:59] <K-Ryan> !frostwire
[06:59] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:59] <K-Ryan> ;)
[06:59] <davascript> moving memory around really isnt OS specific
[06:59] <evsophomore2009> well i have Limewire and i have a problem
[06:59] <evsophomore2009> same thing happend with Frostiwre
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Get frostwire
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Oh
[06:59] <davascript> kubuntu, gentoo, windows  is all transparent its the mother board specs that matter
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Shoot
[06:59] <davascript> use rtorrent
[07:00] <evsophomore2009> hmm All well dosent matter now  Davascript. But thanks for your intuition
[07:00] <evsophomore2009> rtorrent?
[07:00] <davascript> !rtorrent
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <K-Ryan> !info rtorrent
[07:00] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-1 (feisty), package size 314 kB, installed size 860 kB
[07:00] <K-Ryan> ;)
[07:00] <dewitt> what is the kubuntu side chat ID
[07:00] <davascript> thanks
[07:00] <K-Ryan> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <K-Ryan> it's dead though, nobody ever talks
[07:00] <davascript> this channel is kind of slow
[07:01] <K-Ryan> the last message was over a half hour ago
[07:01] <dewitt> thanks
[07:01] <Minataku> And all conversations pushed to it also die
[07:01] <K-Ryan> But try your luck
[07:02] <K-Ryan> "Loneliness: If you find yourself struggling with loneliness, you're not alone. And yet you are alone. So very alone"
[07:03] <dr_willis> we are all Busy Playing Death Worm
[07:03] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:04] <dr_willis> actually ive been copyingit and other stuff over to the laptop. :)
[07:04] <dr_willis> NOW to try it
[07:04] <K-Ryan> "Motivation: If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you, you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon."
[07:05] <davascript> compiling a new kernel
[07:05] <davascript> custom anyway
[07:05] <evsophomore2009> Quick Question...the WINE channel is dead, but is it possible to use iTunes with Wine? i know i know "ew ew ew iTunes sucks, use amarok" but i want to buy songs on iTunes
[07:06] <evsophomore2009> and i know amarok sells songs, but not songs i want
[07:06] <K-Ryan> "Pressure: It can turn a lump of coal into a flawless diamond, or an average person into a perfect basketcase."
[07:06] <davascript> i like that on
[07:06] <K-Ryan> I like the loneliness one
[07:07] <K-Ryan> No, this one is my favorite
[07:07] <K-Ryan> "Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.
[07:07] <K-Ryan> "
[07:07] <davascript> make[1] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[07:07] <davascript> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[07:08] <davascript> why cant you run make menuconfig on kubuntu
[07:08] <davascript> i downloaded the 2.6.20 source and everything thinking that it was just because i was tryign to compile from the headers
[07:09] <evsophomore2009> anyone?
[07:09] <K-Ryan> !itunes
[07:09] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[07:09] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, that's all I've got
[07:10] <evsophomore2009> ugh maan
[07:10] <davascript> if you want to use wine and itunes you could possibly find some info from google
[07:10] <davascript> its pretty popular and its linux specific not distro
[07:10] <evsophomore2009> i seen that it is possible, but too confusing
[07:10] <davascript>  some files might be in differetn places but you can always use slocate
[07:10] <K-Ryan> Okay CrunchyFerrett I read 'em all
[07:10] <davascript> wine sucks to setup
[07:10] <CrunchyFerrett> kj
[07:11] <K-Ryan> Now I'm bored again =P
[07:11] <evsophomore2009> Well it was installed, and then when i clicked to open it it said it couldnt find the file
[07:11] <K-Ryan> Yeah, almost a half hour there
[07:11] <CrunchyFerrett> have you read today's UF?
[07:11] <K-Ryan> What?
[07:11] <CrunchyFerrett> User Friendly
[07:11] <K-Ryan> User Friendly?
[07:11] <CrunchyFerrett> oh dear lord.
[07:11] <CrunchyFerrett> www.userfriendly.org
[07:12] <CrunchyFerrett> start about 6 years back, and read until you're current.
[07:12] <K-Ryan> lol
[07:13] <CrunchyFerrett> actually. I havent read todays
[07:13] <K-Ryan> It's funny
[07:14] <CrunchyFerrett> rofl
[07:15] <james> how do i load kde
[07:15] <james> when i use the "start kde
[07:16] <james> i get it but when i restart the computer it disappears
[07:16] <davascript> try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart] 
[07:16] <davascript> - t ] 
[07:17] <davascript> - the ] 
[07:18] <CrunchyFerrett> startx ?
[07:23] <K-Ryan> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20001222&mode=classic
[07:23] <K-Ryan> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20001223&mode=classic
[07:23] <dr_willis> 'startkde' from a x startup script
[07:23] <dr_willis> startx reads several setting files, and perhaps the .xinitrc file for its startup
[07:24] <dr_willis> Go Compile DeathWorm for Linux. :) its a amuseing game.
[07:24] <K-Ryan> I'm hooked on user friendly
[07:25] <K-Ryan> And I have 365x5 plus this year's to go
[07:25] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  wait for the movie. :)
[07:25] <dr_willis> well bbl ya all. Night
[07:28] <CrunchyFerrett> Success!
[07:29] <K-Ryan> I'm skipping around
[07:29] <K-Ryan> So I'll have more for other times
[07:29] <K-Ryan> But yeah
[07:29] <K-Ryan> Until I find something better
[07:30] <CrunchyFerrett> There are fewer things sweeter in the universe than UF
[07:30] <CrunchyFerrett> ICHC is a close second.
[07:30] <K-Ryan> ICHC?
[07:31] <K-Ryan> Hah, here's a part in one box
[07:32] <CrunchyFerrett> www.icanhascheezburger.com
[07:32] <K-Ryan> "Researchers have discovered that a gene linked to the length of your ring finger is also linked to your facility with math-if your ring finger is longer than your index finger, you're likely math-bright"
[07:32] <K-Ryan> I happen to be great with math and my ring finger is longer, go figure
[07:35] <K-Ryan> ICHC has me laughing hysterically
[07:37] <euphoria> hai
[07:38] <K-Ryan> I euphoria
[07:38] <K-Ryan> *Hi
[07:38] <K-Ryan> CrunchyFerrett: I'm crying it's so funny
[07:39] <CrunchyFerrett> glad you're enjoying it
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Really, I'm crying
[07:40] <K-Ryan> the style of the captions make it that much funnier
[07:44] <TrueFX> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:44] <TrueFX> how can i unlock it?
[07:44] <TrueFX> yes mr bot
[07:44] <K-Ryan> What were you trying to do?
[07:44] <TrueFX> can u reply that
[07:44] <TrueFX> :)
[07:44] <TrueFX> sudo apt-get install ruby
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Close Adept and Synaptic
[07:45] <TrueFX> nothing else is being installed
[07:45] <TrueFX> no other konsole or adpet
[07:45] <K-Ryan> !aptfix
[07:45] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Try that
[07:45] <TrueFX> yep
[07:45] <davascript> try sudo killall adept-manager
[07:46] <davascript> err adept_manager
[07:46] <TrueFX> thx guys
[07:46] <K-Ryan> It works?
[07:46] <davascript> has anyone in here compiled there own kenrl in ubunut
[07:46] <davascript> ubuntu
[07:47] <davascript> i would like to customize my configuration to suit my needs but i get errors when runnin make menuconfig
[07:47] <klobster> 'sudo cd' returns sudo: cd: command not found
[07:47] <klobster> why?
[07:48] <K-Ryan> why would you want to root changedir?
[07:48] <davascript> you shoudnt need to use sudo for cd
[07:48] <K-Ryan> you just use cd
[07:49] <klobster> I do if it's a root owned folder
[07:49] <davascript> sudo is only used for command tat need root access
[07:49] <davascript> no you should still be able to enter it  unless its only readable by permission not ownership
[07:49] <K-Ryan> klobster: You should be able to cd into it without needing root
[07:49] <K-Ryan> To modify stuff in there you'd need sudo
[07:50] <davascript> if you have to just su to root then
[07:51] <klobster> also of note, if I try to cd to my .hiddenrootdir and I try to use tab completion to finish the name it won't, but if I type sudo cd .hidden and then try tab completion it will auto complete the root owned hidden file.  strange, huh?
[07:51] <K-Ryan> can you still cd into it without sudo though?
[07:52] <klobster> k-ryan no i cannot.
[07:52] <davascript> well thats in your bash_completion configuration
[07:52] <K-Ryan> Strange
[07:52] <TrueFX> hasan@kubuntu:~$ stardict
[07:52] <TrueFX> Could not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/hasan/.gnome2_private/': Operation not permitted
[07:52] <TrueFX> what does that mean?
[07:52] <TrueFX> i try to start stardict
[07:53] <TrueFX> and that's the error i get
[07:53] <TrueFX> how i can i permet it
[07:53] <K-Ryan> Alright guys, it's too late for me
[07:53] <K-Ryan> I'm out
[07:53] <davascript> sudo chmod 0700 /home/hasan/.gnome2_private
[07:53] <K-Ryan> Thanks CrunchyFerrett =P
[07:53] <TrueFX> or is it that program stardict that should set it?
[07:54] <davascript> try sudo stardict
[07:55] <davascript> can you paste ls -l ~/ | grep .gnome  truefx
[07:55] <davascript> the output i mean paste the output
[07:56] <TrueFX> no output
[07:56] <TrueFX> when i run that commands no output is producesd
[07:56] <TrueFX> ls -l ~/ | grep .gnome
[07:56] <davascript> can you paste ls -la ~/ | grep .gnome  truefx
[07:56] <davascript> sorry i forgot the a
[07:56] <davascript> lspecifically just the .gnome2_private line
[07:56] <TrueFX> drwxr-xr-x  5 root  root     4096 2007-06-28 21:23 .gnome2
[07:57] <TrueFX> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  root     4096 2007-06-28 21:23 .gnome2_private
[07:57] <davascript> drwx------  2 danny danny       1 2007-06-28 17:47 .gnome2_private
[07:57] <TrueFX> do i have to change it manualle?
[07:57] <davascript> are you root
[07:57] <klobster> what files should I be backing up?  any suggestions or weblinks appreciated
[07:58] <TrueFX> nope
[07:58] <TrueFX> right now no
[07:58] <TrueFX> that my own pc at home
[07:58] <davascript> run thes commands
[07:58] <TrueFX> no
[07:58] <davascript> as root
[07:58] <TrueFX> im not root
[07:58] <TrueFX> ok
[07:59] <davascript> cd /home/hasan && chmod 0700 .gnome* && chown -R hasan .gnome*
[08:00] <davascript> just run that as root
[08:01] <TrueFX> root@kubuntu:/home/hasan# stardict
[08:01] <TrueFX> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:01] <TrueFX> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[08:01] <TrueFX> (stardict:6944): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:01] <davascript> new erors ar fun
[08:01] <davascript> try running it as hasan
[08:02] <TrueFX> root@kubuntu:/home/hasan# ls -al /home/hasan/ |grep .gnome
[08:02] <TrueFX> drwx------  5 hasan root     4096 2007-06-28 21:23 .gnome2
[08:02] <TrueFX> drwx------  2 hasan root     4096 2007-06-28 21:23 .gnome2_private
[08:02] <TrueFX> this is 8 line
[08:02] <TrueFX> should i paste it?
[08:02] <TrueFX> or is there a paste bot?
[08:03] <TrueFX> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[08:03] <TrueFX>   Major opcode:  144
[08:03] <TrueFX>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:03] <TrueFX>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:03] <TrueFX> Failed to open device
[08:03] <TrueFX> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[08:03] <TrueFX>   Major opcode:  144
[08:03] <TrueFX>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:03] <TrueFX>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:03] <TrueFX> Failed to open device
[08:04] <davascript> seems like you shoudl run it form alt+F2
[08:05] <TrueFX> ps aux|grep stardict|grep -v stardict
[08:05] <TrueFX> no output
[08:05] <TrueFX> i have run it from command line
[08:05] <BluesKaj> ,morning
[08:05] <TrueFX> pardon run dialog box
[08:05] <TrueFX> i have seen loadin icon at the center of my screen
[08:05] <TrueFX> it s still there
[08:06] <TrueFX> it seems as if its stucked
[08:06] <TrueFX> progress bar is not moving loading is written
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i print out the mac address on my system?
[08:06] <TrueFX> and there is 2 grey box to the right of task bar
[08:07] <TrueFX> but no icon on that
[08:07] <TrueFX> can restart solve that problem?
[08:07] <TrueFX> an old windows habit
[08:07] <TrueFX> :)
[08:07] <davascript> ifconfig | GREP HWaddr
[08:07] <davascript> grep not GREP sorry
[08:08] <davascript> it shoudlnt matter but i dont like to yell
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks davascript. i did ifconfig, didn't know what the HW address was that
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> makes sense thought
[08:08] <TrueFX> ?
[08:08] <davascript> i dotn know TrueFX it seems its not connecting to X correctly
[08:13] <sumigamer> guys when I switch workspaces in beryl it happens to fast....how do I slow it down so that I can watch the cube move around slowly??
[08:15] <mo0osah> there's an option in beryl settings manager... but i don't know exactly where
[08:16] <TrueFX> hi guys
[08:16] <TrueFX> how can i add and remove programs to and form start-up
[08:16] <TrueFX> ?
[08:16] <mo0osah> sumigamer: go to Desktop > Rotate Cube > Misc. Options > Rotation Speed :)
[08:17] <mo0osah> !startup | TrueFX
[08:17] <ubotu> TrueFX: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[08:17] <TrueFX> in kubuntu?
[08:18] <sumigamer> mo0osah, thanks...it helped.
[08:19] <mo0osah> TrueFX: Theres an addon called startup manager for kcontrol , you can get it from repos
[08:19] <mo0osah> sumigamer: np :)
[08:20] <davascript> in kde you can add scripts to ~/.kde/env to startup when you login
[08:20] <TrueFX> can kmyfirewall prevent stardict of working correctly?
[08:20] <TrueFX> davascript?
[08:21] <davascript> i noticed mo0osahtalking about gnome
[08:43] <sumigamer2> guys can the dolphin file manager be installed through adept??
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> sumigamer2: on gutsy it can
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> !info dolpin fiesty
[08:45] <ubotu> Package dolpin does not exist in feisty
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> its not in feisty
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i think...let me double check
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[08:45] <sumigamer2> looks like I will have to compile it from source...
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> sumigamer2: yea... :| or you could package it
[08:46] <sumigamer2> Admiral_Chicago, whats that supposed to mean?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> create a .deb from source
[08:47] <sumigamer2> how do i do that??
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> sumigamer2: to be honest, it'll be a lot easier to install from source.
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> just do that
[08:52] <kiril> heloo
[08:52] <kiril> I'm using Kubuntu 7.04
[08:53] <kiril> but I have a big problem with my network
[08:54] <kiril> can anyone help me
[08:54] <kiril> ?
[08:54] <kiril> pls
[08:56] <Lynoure> kiril: it's hard to help you with that little detail known
[08:57] <Lynoure> kiril: more people are likely to help you if you actually describe the problem. A big problem with network can be anything from no wifi to network overrun by worm traffic...
[09:01] <kiril> ok
[09:01] <kiril> now
[09:01] <kiril> read carefully
[09:01] <kiril> on every my opening some web pages
[09:01] <kiril> ex. google.com
[09:02] <kiril> I need to make pon dsl-provider
[09:02] <kiril> in terminal
[09:02] <kiril> beacuse in my browser is shown
[09:02] <kiril> unknown host
[09:02] <kiril> I'm using ADSL connection, Kubuntu 7.04 with Konqueror browsere
[09:02] <kiril> browser*
[09:05] <kiril> HELP ?!?
[09:09] <TrueFX> how can i make a folder wrx by any user?
[09:09] <jlund> kiril: I am not sure what you mean.
[09:10] <^peter^> TrueFX either check out chmod, or use Konquerer
[09:10] <kiril> jlund: OK
[09:10] <kiril> now read carefuly
[09:11] <Lynoure> kiril: Check your dns settings?
[09:11] <kiril> I think there is timeout or something
[09:11] <kiril> ?
[09:11] <kiril> how can I check my dns settings
[09:11] <kiril> ?
[09:11] <kiril> I'm New
[09:11] <jlund> TrueFX: Through the terminal or otherwise?
[09:12] <kraut> moin
[09:12] <TrueFX> terminal
[09:14] <jlund> TrueFX: Do you know what the numbers mean? I can give you a full tutorial I just need to know how detailed to be :)
[09:14] <jlund> Like the numbers for permissions
[09:14] <TrueFX> ok
[09:14] <TrueFX> give me a tut
[09:14] <TrueFX> very quickly
[09:15] <TrueFX> i know numbers quite well
[09:15] <TrueFX> ;)
[09:15] <TrueFX> but i havent used linux for more than 6 years
[09:15] <TrueFX> always windows
[09:15] <jlund> Alright, so in Linux and Unix file permissions are assigned in three different sections.
[09:16] <jlund> There are permissions for the user, the group, and everyone else.
[09:16] <TrueFX> k
[09:16] <TrueFX> reading
[09:16] <jlund> In a terminal if you type 'ls -l' it will list the files. The first column will show something like '-rw-r--r--'
[09:17] <jlund> Notice that there are three 'r's
[09:17] <jlund> What this is saying is the the user has read write permissions, the group has read permissions, and everyone else had read permissions.
[09:18] <TrueFX> ok
[09:18] <TrueFX> ugo
[09:18] <TrueFX> rwx
[09:18] <TrueFX> r w x
[09:18] <jlund> The numbers correspond to permission levels
[09:18] <TrueFX> i know that part
[09:19] <TrueFX> who is the user
[09:19] <jlund> 4 - Read permission | 2 - Write permission | 1 - Execute permission
[09:19] <TrueFX> who is group
[09:19] <jlund> Well ls -l will show you something like this:
[09:19] <jlund> -rw-r--r-- 1 jlund jlund  12264811 2007-04-22 23:31 filename.txt
[09:20] <jlund> The first jlund is the user, the second is the group, the next set of numbers is the file size in bytes, then the date and time, then the name
[09:20] <jlund> So back to the numbers
[09:21] <jlund> You add them up to get the level to where you want it.
[09:21] <jlund> Have you ever seen a command like 'chmod 755 filename'?
[09:21] <TrueFX> yep
[09:21] <TrueFX> rwx rx rx
[09:22] <jlund> Each number corresponds to one of the sections. The first 7 is for the user, the second 5 is for the group, the third 5 is for everyone else.
[09:22] <jlund> Exactly
[09:23] <jlund> So you add what you want. If you want just read and write but not execute then that is 4 (read) + 2 (write) = 6
[09:23] <jlund> If you want to give that to everyone then it is chmod 666 filename.txt
[09:24] <TrueFX> ok
[09:24] <TrueFX> in fact i have formatted my linux 3 days ago
[09:24] <jlund> Your question was how to make something read/write/execute for everyone from the terminal. That would be 'chmod 777 filename'
[09:24] <jlund> Does that make sense with the numbers and the 3 permission level divisions?
[09:24] <TrueFX> i have saved my home folder in another place
[09:25] <TrueFX> after a fresh kubuntu installation i ve copied that folder back
[09:25] <TrueFX> over my home partition
[09:25] <TrueFX> now when i lance stardict
[09:25] <TrueFX> it says it cannot configure
[09:25] <TrueFX> some file
[09:26] <TrueFX> does applications binaries has privilages
[09:26] <TrueFX> are they like users?
[09:26] <TrueFX> Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/apps/stardict/preferences/dictionary/scan_selection' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path
[09:26] <TrueFX> Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/apps/stardict/preferences/dictionary/scan_selection' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path
[09:26] <TrueFX> u see
[09:26] <jlund> Did you copy them to a DVD or CD?
[09:27] <Lynoure> TrueFX: not like users, unless you set a sticky bit. Otherwise they get the right of the user running them
[09:27] <jlund> Burning software has a bad habit of setting files to be read-only on the disc.
[09:27] <TrueFX> nope to windows nt partition
[09:27] <Lynoure> s/sticky/suid or guid
[09:27] <TrueFX> normally my windows is divided into 2 part
[09:27] <TrueFX> windows and back_up
[09:27] <TrueFX> so i  have copied my home to back_up on ntfs
[09:27] <TrueFX> then back
[09:28] <TrueFX> by forcing and overwriting
[09:28] <Lynoure> !enter
[09:28] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:28] <TrueFX> sorry a habit coz of msn messenger
[09:28] <TrueFX> :)
[09:28] <TrueFX> my enter key is hyperactive i know
[09:29] <jlund> TrueFX: Try this command. 'chmod -R 755 apps/stardict/'
[09:30] <jlund> I have never used stardict (or even know what it is) so I am just shooting in the dark.
[09:36] <fenrig> hi what is the official support channel for gutsy kubuntu
[09:43] <eagles0513875> hobsee
[09:43] <eagles0513875> *hobbsee
[09:43] <eagles0513875> morning
[09:43] <Hobbsee> hi eagles0513875
[09:47] <NickPresta> there's nothing better than blasting your music at 3:45am with no one else home
[09:52] <jlund> NickPresta: As long as it's good.
[09:54] <hiyah> i need help on proftpd.. i installed it.. port forward 21 to my ip
[09:54] <hiyah> but others jus couldn't ftp in, do i need to modify my hosts.deny and hosts.allow?
[09:54] <hiyah> ftp localhost works shows proftpd
[09:56] <jlund> hiyah: You are behind a firewall right?
[09:56] <hiyah> yes
[09:57] <jlund> Port 21 is actually only used to establish a control connection. All of the communication happens on other ports. So you need to open up a range of ports on your firewall and then configure proftpd to use that port range for PASV connections.
[09:57] <jlund> I wish that I could tell you exactly how to do this but I use Pureftpd
[09:58] <jlund> But the issue is with your firewall especially if you can connect on localhost
[09:58] <hiyah> acutally
[09:58] <hiyah> what i haf done is forward 23456 to port 21 on my computer
[09:58] <hiyah> then i try to ftp 23456
[09:59] <hiyah> i mean ftp using port 23456..but it still doesn't work
[09:59] <jlund> Yeah, FTP doesn't work like SSH and other services do. It runs over multiple ports. You will have to open a range of ports on your firewall and configure the FTP daemon to use those.
[10:00] <hiyah> oh, ok does it mean i need to add a service in /etc/services and also configure my proftpd daemon to use that port?
[10:01] <pioner> !
[10:01] <jlund> I'm simplifying it but it kind of works like this: You connect to an FTP on the control port and tell it what you want to do. "I want to send a file" your client says. "Great!" says the FTP server, "Connect to this port here and I'll be waiting."
[10:02] <jlund> Or, your client says "I want to download a file from you." "Awesome," replies the FTP server, "I'll send it to you on this port here."
[10:02] <jlund> So if you only have one port open it won't work.
[10:02] <hiyah> multiple port..hmm
[10:02] <jlund> You don't need to change anything in services. You need a firewall that works with FTP.
[10:03] <hiyah> what is the port range i need to set in my firewall?
[10:04] <jlund> It's not a standard. Again, I have never done this with proftpd so you may have to resort to some Google searches.
[10:04] <jlund> All I can tell you is that this is a firewall issue.
[10:04] <jlund> Sorry, I wish that I had a better answer for you!
[10:05] <llutz> one who offers public ftp should at least know about using google
[10:05] <hiyah> ok..i just don't understand the multi ports ;p
[10:06] <ekekeke> !language
[10:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:10] <julius> how do i run a bin file
[10:10] <julius> and is there acommand to switch to desktop for kde
[10:10] <darkrift411> !ping
[10:10] <ubotu> pong
[10:12] <hiyah> !ftp
[10:12] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:12] <hiyah> !ftpd
[10:12] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:12] <hiyah> !proftpd
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <hiyah> !FTP
[10:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:13] <hiyah> !proftpd
[10:17] <llutz> hiyah: http://www.proftpd.org/
[10:27] <hiyah> are there any log files for ftp connection or attempt to connect from outside?
[10:33] <rixxon> Can I configure KNetworkManager to use DHCP except for DNS?
[10:34] <rixxon> I want to use DHCP for IP configuration but manually configure DNS servers
[10:34] <Hobbsee> !participate
[10:34] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[10:34] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: ^
[10:34] <arun> hey people
[10:34] <rixxon> I only managed to temporarily change DNS servers, as soon as I reconnected with KNetworkManager it used the servers provided via DHCP again
[10:35] <arun> i was wondering if there is a way to preview the files that are in a folder before actually opening the folder
[10:35] <llutz> rixxon: are nameserver-entries in /etc/resolv.conf overridden by dhcp? if not, use them
[10:36] <rixxon> llutz: NetworkManager overwrites resolv.conf
[10:36] <rixxon> The whole thing.
[10:37] <llutz> rixxon: i know why i hate that stuff :)
[10:37] <Gartral> help, cant access repos
[10:38] <rixxon> llutz: well, it is neat, but sometimes an annoyance...
[10:38] <llutz> rixxon: networkmanager is too static in its options for me
[10:40] <rixxon> llutz: i dislike how it takes over the interfaces, how it requires a DE, and as you say, how it has too static options
[10:41] <rixxon> llutz: but when you don't need real interfaces and you are in a DE, it can be neat having that flexible icon in your tray
[10:42] <llutz> rixxon: worst thing is that it can't handle static-ips (yet)
[10:43] <arun> i was wondering if there is a way to preview the files that are in a folder before actually opening the folder.. like in windows, you can see little thumbnails of images, etc
[10:44] <rixxon> llutz: I wish there were a genuine tool being as flexible
[10:56] <euphoria> rawwwwr!
[10:57] <euphoria> hai linux people
[10:57] <euphoria> i've a problem getting beryl to load it's beautiful self by default when i start jubuntu
[10:58] <euphoria> kubuntu*. someone told me some way to do it but it only starts sometimes, anyone know i can fix it? plz
[10:59] <eagles0513875> euphoria have u asked in the #beryl channel
[10:59] <euphoria> no nbot yet
[10:59] <hiyah>  hi, i've set up proftpd in my computer.. i can do a ftp localhost and everyone locally can ftp in.. but not from the internet.. i had already portforward port 21 to my computer from the firewall.. what could be wrong?
[10:59] <euphoria> some d00de in ubuntueffects told me a way but it not seem to work
[11:00] <euphoria> i shall ask there thanks
[11:00] <eagles0513875> no prob euphoria
[11:03] <euphoria> they muyst be sleeping 8-}
[11:04] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:05] <eagles0513875> i havent really had a chance to play with setting up beryl to load at start up
[11:05] <llutz> hiyah: http://www.proftpd.de/Active-Passive-Dokumentation.35.0.html
[11:08] <arun> i was wondering if there is a way to preview the files that are in a folder before actually opening the folder.. like in windows, you can see little thumbnails of images, etc
[11:11] <koudelka> how to change gateway on a networkinterface using ifconfig?
[11:11] <koudelka> is that possible?
[11:11] <ethemc> Tm_T: are u there
[11:13] <koudelka> this is really wierd, all the linux distros i have tested works fine with my network, but with kubuntu it somehow gets a dhcp ip from my isps router
[11:14] <koudelka> and i can't change that using the graphical, it dosen't work
[11:15] <koudelka> i don't even understand how it can get that ip in the first place, i have a adsl connection
[11:15] <koudelka> i should need to login using pppoe first
[11:17] <jussi01> arun: there is an option in view iirc
[11:20] <peyj> hello
[11:23] <arun> ?
[11:23] <IndianGUY29> whats gplv3 which is cauisng stirr these days?
[11:23] <IndianGUY29> and is it goin to affect kubuntu in anyway?
[11:28] <|Zero|H|I|T|> hello
[11:29] <|Zero|H|I|T|> can anyone help me please?
[11:29] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i just downloaded kubuntu
[11:29] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and booted from there
[11:29] <|Zero|H|I|T|> I liked it a LOT and i will probably use it as my main distro
[11:29] <euphoria> koool
[11:29] <|Zero|H|I|T|> but
[11:29] <|Zero|H|I|T|> it cant see my windows partition
[11:30] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i went somewhere at the menu about that
[11:30] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i have to choose a mount point
[11:30] <|Zero|H|I|T|> what should i choose?
[11:30] <|Zero|H|I|T|> :S
[11:31] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anyone that can help with that?
[11:36] <darkrift411> |Zero|H|I|T|,
[11:36] <darkrift411> wherever you want to mount it
[11:36] <darkrift411> mine mounts in /media/sda1 but i think you can mount it elsewhere if you want
[11:36] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i tried some places
[11:36] <darkrift411> try /media/win
[11:36] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and it would have error
[11:36] <darkrift411> if that doesnt work, try to mount it on your desktop, lol
[11:37] <|Zero|H|I|T|> but now i read something at the documents that can help
[11:37] <darkrift411> /home/YOURNAME/Desktop/win
[11:37] <|Zero|H|I|T|> thats what i am going to do then
[11:37] <|Zero|H|I|T|> kubuntu supports all hp printers?
[11:37] <darkrift411> no idea
[11:37] <|Zero|H|I|T|> there is this tool
[11:38] <|Zero|H|I|T|> to use HP printers
[11:38] <|Zero|H|I|T|> it must work with my model but it has error
[11:40] <koudelka> how to change the gateway when the graphical tool isn't working?
[11:41] <alie> hallo all
[11:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|> hey
[11:44] <_4strO> koudelka: with de "route" command
[11:45] <koudelka> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth1
[11:45] <koudelka> that's what i did
[11:46] <koudelka> as root
[11:46] <koudelka> no errors but it dosen't show anything when i do check route
[11:46] <gemidjy> how can I get the default kcontrol in Kubuntu ? (I need some modules that now are not there) :/
[11:47] <HymnToLife> gemidjy, kcontrol ?
[11:47] <HymnToLife> koudelka, try to drop the "eth1"
[11:47] <emonkey-p> K > run > kcontrol
[11:47] <emonkey-p> if it's not installed: sudo apt-get install kcontrol
[11:47] <gemidjy> HymnToLife: control ceonter
[11:47] <gemidjy> emonkey-p: I know that, but it is not with all the modules I need
[11:47] <HymnToLife> yeah, I mean, just type kcontrol in a terminal
[11:48] <HymnToLife> (or in the Run dialog)
[11:48] <HymnToLife> then the modules aren't installed maybe ?
[11:48] <HymnToLife> all my modules are here, but I'm running a plain KDE, not Kubuntu
[11:51] <f3k> salut ^^
[11:52] <koudelka> dosen't work with route
[11:52] <koudelka> lol wierd that the network should be so messedup with kubuntu when it works with everyother distro i have tested
[11:54] <dromer> wth, my desktop is turned off? it was on when I left the house, now I can't even ssh to it anymore ..
[11:54] <dromer> or the damn dhcp changed my ip again ..
[11:56] <jussi01> dromer: probably that last one...
[11:57] <dromer> jussi01: hope so :P
[11:57] <dromer> now if I could only remember the other IP I kept getting the other time ..
[11:57] <jussi01> lol
[12:08] <icecruncher> where do I have to edit a file to add a directory of custom made scripts?
[12:22] <yeniklasor> Can I backup in "Kontact" informations?
[12:22] <ardchoille> icecruncher: You can make a ~/bin directory, put your scripts there and add that dir to your $PATH.
[12:24] <icecruncher> ardchoille: how with $PATH?
[12:25] <ardchoille> icecruncher: Once you've made the dir and added your scripts, open a terminal and do:PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[12:25] <icecruncher> ardchoille: thnks
[12:25] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[12:28] <mictian> Can anybody help me to install NVidia drivers to my system?
[12:28] <ardchoille> !nvidia | mictian
[12:28] <ubotu> mictian: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <mictian> thanx)
[12:30] <spawn57> is the latest kernel patch 2.6.20-15 or 2.6.20-16?
[12:30] <Ace2016> you mean in the repo?
[12:30] <elbing> anyone have used vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux succesfully in kubuntu?
[12:31] <Ace2016> 2.6.21.5 is the latest stable kernel
[12:32] <hiyah> in proftpd, how do u set a user can upload only, but cannot download?
[12:33] <spawn57> you use the limit tags to disable get and retr and any other download commands
[12:33] <hiyah> but i only want it for a particular user
[12:33] <hiyah> is limit tag universal?
[12:34] <spawn57> yeah, i don't think you can seperate like that
[12:34] <spawn57> you might have to figure something out, one thing that comes to mind are fake permissions
[12:35] <spawn57> or you can set up a virtual host for taht one user
[12:36] <hiyah> ic.. virtual host
[12:36] <hiyah> where can i get more help on it?
[12:37] <Darkrift> is there a startup folder like in windows?
[12:37] <Darkrift> i want to add certain things to autostart and forgot how
[12:37] <Darkrift> i know there is a command line way
[12:39] <Lynoure> Darkrift: ~/.kde/Autostart, I think
[12:40] <hiyah> another question is, is there any way to limit the space for individual user to be allow to upload in proftpd?
[12:41] <tepsipakki> hey, is there a known bug about automounting not working in feisty when inserting media (cdrom, usb..)?
[12:42] <bsiva> hi
[12:42] <bsiva> hi any one from singapore???
[12:43] <hiyah> me
[12:45] <bsiva> hi hiyah, are u from singapoe
[12:47] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: i think so
[12:47] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: ok, that's good, I think ;)
[12:54] <hiyah> yes
[01:06] <miltos> hi ppl:-)
[01:07] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: removing .kde* helped for me, it seems
[01:07] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: right
[01:07] <miltos> what's the appropriate program to unrar rar archivers in Kubuntu?
[01:08] <yeniklasor> How can I remove window borders?
[01:08] <yeniklasor> sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[01:10] <HanzZ> yeniklasor: heh :) i have non-english version :) but right click on window header -> Advanced -> Without border
[01:10] <miltos> yeniklasor: I've already installed rar unrar via apt but I don't know how to handle them ...which program?
[01:11] <yeniklasor> miltos ark
[01:12] <miltos> yeniklasor: I've got a series of password protected files and I don't know how to handle them through ark (I know the password)...
[01:18] <miltos> I've got a series of password protected files and I don't know how to handle them through ark (I know the password)...
[01:22] <Kuhrscher> Hi, anyone responsible for the kmplayer packages (Gutsy) in here?
[01:23] <Kuhrscher> Tonio_ ? jpatrick?
[01:24] <Tonio_> Kuhrscher: yup ?
[01:24] <Kuhrscher> Hi, it's that kmplayer moved from main to universe, right?
[01:24] <Tonio_> yup
[01:25] <Kuhrscher> So translations are not handled by Rosetta anymore, right?
[01:25] <Tonio_> the standalone player, not the konq plugin
[01:25] <Tonio_> true
[01:25] <Tonio_> that's the point still feisty
[01:25] <ILovePlankton> In my kmenu there are a couple of submenus that will not appear, does anyone know how I can fix that? they are games, edutainment, development, and science and math
[01:25] <Kuhrscher> But the last releases in Gutsy don't contain the upstream translations dirctly...
[01:26] <Kuhrscher> But they should be included in the kmplayer package or not?
[01:28] <Kuhrscher> Tonio_: But they should be included directly in the kmplayer package instead or not?
[01:29] <Kuhrscher> Tonio_: Atm no translation gets installed at all...
[01:33] <TrueFX> ive just installed editpad
[01:33] <TrueFX> but its binary is is under my home directory
[01:34] <TrueFX> and i want to lounch it by alt+f2
[01:34] <TrueFX> how can i do that?
[01:34] <TrueFX> can i do that without adding its installation directory to my path?
[01:34] <TrueFX> by creating a symbolic link in my /usr/bin directory to this binary?
[01:38] <ardchoille> TrueFX: You can create a link or you can put the full path into the alt+f2 dialog
[01:44] <marko>  /j #ubuntu
[01:45] <marko> sorry
[01:52] <icecruncher> how can i get thunderbird 2?
[01:59] <msetim> Hi guys
[02:00] <msetim> I have the Keyspan URM-17A Express Remote Control and I would like to use it, what I need to do to configure it?
[02:09] <paolo_> Hi. in a multithread context, if a thread sets errno, another thread reads this value?
[02:09] <paolo_> Hi. in a multithread context, if a thread sets errno, does another thread read this value?
[02:31] <dhq_> can anyone help me  with rsync
[02:36] <omega> i'm back whit the same question
[02:37] <omega> i was forced to leave the chat
[02:37] <omega> but now i have the time
[02:37] <omega> to looking for an answear
[02:38] <omega> why doesn't play my central satelite
[02:38] <sa> hey everyone
[02:38] <sa> I have a problem with the adept installer that I have tried to look up on the internet without success
[02:39] <omega> from a 5.1 system logitech
[02:39] <omega> x530 logitech
[02:39] <omega> any one?
[02:39] <sa> tired of looking for a solution so I logged on to #kubuntu
[02:39] <sa> i tried to install java applications through adept installer
[02:40] <sa> then i restarted the computer
[02:40] <sa> everytime i try to open the adept installer program I get the following warning:
[02:41] <sa> another process is using the packaging system database (robably some other adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please clos ethe other application before using this one
[02:41] <sa> but there is no other application open that I can see
[02:41] <sa> anyone know what the problem can be?
[02:43] <diblaazo> [sa]  There is another adept process running in the background,  just look for and kill that process
[02:44] <diblaazo> [sa]  ps -elf | grep adept, then kill -9 <process id.
[02:44] <sa> diblaazo: no, i cannot find any...last time i exited adept installer though, I had to terminate it cause it had a problem exiting
[02:44] <sa> i restarted the computer but it still says a process is running
[02:45] <diblaazo> what does ps -elf show you
[02:45] <sa> diblaazo: what is that? sorry, I am a linux noob
[02:46] <sa> diblaazo: do I write that in konsole?
[02:46] <diblaazo> [sa]  yeah
[02:47] <sa> diblaazo: it shows a lot of things
[02:47] <diblaazo> and look for someting like adept, I have seen this when I have turned on automatic downloading of updats
[02:47] <sa> ok
[02:47] <sa> diblaazo: Yeah, found one adept
[02:48] <sa> should I grep it
[02:48] <sa> diblaazo: should i grep it? what is the <process id?
[02:48] <diblaazo> kill -9 <process id>
[02:49] <sa> diblaazo: what is the <process id>
[02:51] <sa> diblaazo: ?
[02:52] <entwisi> hi there
[02:53] <entwisi> I'm having a few issues with sound on my Acer laptop. I had it working a week ago but it has stopped working again
[02:54] <entwisi> Amarok shows it as playing (i.e teh graphic equaliser is working to teh music)
[02:54] <azzco> I've got a nvidia driver problem... works great when I restart X but when I reboot it mismatches
[02:54] <sa> diblaazo: it is not working
[02:55] <dromer> jussi01: hmm, weird, now I can log in just fine ..
[02:55] <diblaazo> ps -elf | grep adept
[02:56] <sa> diblaazo: I did that
[02:56] <sa> diblaazo: and then?
[02:56] <diblaazo> then kill -9 number in second colum
[02:56] <jussi01> dromer: heh
[02:56] <diblaazo> thats if adept is still running
[02:57] <dromer> jussi01: not that I need it that badly, I just installed Firefox portable to my usb-stick ;P (normally I x-forward my home FF)
[02:57] <sa> diblaazo: i am writing both sudo kill -9 <5840> and kill -9 <5840>
[02:57] <sa> diblaazo: getting the error: unexpected token 5840
[02:58] <diblaazo> you need to do " sudo kill -9 5840"
[02:58] <jussi01> dromer: way to complex for me... ;)
[02:59] <sa> diblaazo: So sorry
[02:59] <diblaazo> about what ?
[02:59] <faidillinger> could anyone tell me whats a good software for creating music under kubuntu
[02:59] <faidillinger> ??
[03:00] <jussi01> faidillinger: recording?
[03:00] <sa> diblaazo: about my stupid questions hehe
[03:00] <faidillinger> jussi01: no, creating
[03:00] <diblaazo> dont worry
[03:00] <jussi01> faidillinger: I suggest you have a look at ubuntu studio
[03:00] <faidillinger> jussi01: thx, i will google for ubuntu studio. ;)
[03:01] <jussi01> faidillinger: www.ubuntustudio.org
[03:01] <faidillinger> jussi01: thx
[03:01] <jussi01> faidillinger: and #ubuntustudio
[03:01] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure dolphin it gives me the foll error:- checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:01] <jussi01> sumigamer: just use the edgy deb, it works fine
[03:02] <jussi01> sumigamer: it sounds like you are using the dolphin for kde 4
[03:02] <sumigamer> juss01, i thought dolphin had to compiled from source.....  i am using Kubuntu feisty
[03:02] <faidillinger> jussi01: thx, but can i install ubuntustudio on kubuntu, or is it a different distribution ?
[03:03] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: you need to install the "kdelibs4-dev" package.
[03:03] <dromer> jussi01: naw, x-forwarding is sweet :)
[03:03] <TeraDyne> kdelibs5-dev* sorry.
[03:03] <jussi01> faidillinger: you can install the packages and such, but yes its a different distro
[03:03] <faidillinger> jussi01: ok
[03:03] <faidillinger> jussi01: thx
[03:04] <jussi01> faidillinger: its gnome based
[03:04] <sumigamer> TeraDyne, I am using kde 3.5.6..do I still need to install kdelibs4-dev??
[03:04] <sa> diblaazo: i am restarting the computer. let me see if it works
[03:04] <sa> diblaazo: thanks alot for your help
[03:04] <diblaazo> okay
[03:05] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: kdelibs4-dev installs the kde3 development librarys
[03:06] <sumigamer> TeraDyne, how big is it??
[03:06] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: and kdelibs5-dev installs the kde4 dev libraries
[03:06] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: not sure. It's a metapackage that "depends" on the dev packages.
[03:07] <sumigamer> is there no way I can get a deb for dolphin or install it from the repos??/
[03:07] <javierf> hi every body there.... I hope someone can guide to get my vnc4server running.
[03:08] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: You could always try the deb that was built for edgy, like jussi01 suggested.
[03:09] <javierf> well.... I'm using feisty amd64 and I started vncserver uncommenting first two lines as indicate in some forum but it only shows a solid gray background
[03:09] <jussi01> sumigamer: i used the deb from here: http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/download.html and it works perfectly
[03:09] <jussi01> its 1 version old, but is still great
[03:09] <sumigamer> jussi01, does this deb has some less features or something like that??
[03:09] <TeraDyne> !info dolphin | sumigamer
[03:09] <ubotu> sumigamer: dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[03:10] <jussi01> huh...
[03:10] <jussi01> i didnt know it was in the repos
[03:10] <TeraDyne> jussi01: I didn't either until I checked the bot.
[03:10] <jussi01> sumigamer: sudo apt-get dolphin
[03:10] <jussi01> sumigamer: sudo apt-get install dolphin
[03:10] <jussi01> gah
[03:10] <jussi01> sorry
[03:10] <jussi01> the second one
[03:11] <javierf> Hi..... someone could help me please about a vncserver problem?
[03:11] <jussi01> heh, the deb on the site i gave is the same as the repos
[03:12] <sumigamer> jussi01, thanks . I got it from the repos and it is works great.
[03:13] <jussi01> sumigamer: :)
[03:17] <jussi01> heh
[03:18] <sumigamer2> can anybody please tell me how to install a window border in KDE??
[03:19] <jussi01> !beryl
[03:19] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:19] <aroo> What can I do when "rm" returns "Argument list too long"? I assume it's because there's a ton of files in this folder I'm trying to remove
[03:20] <sumigamer2> I still dont get it how do I  install these darned borders...
[03:20] <jussi01> aroo: not trying to be smart, but have you read man rm ?
[03:20] <jussi01> sumigamer2: what exactly do you mean by borders?
[03:20] <msetim>  I installed Kubuntu AMD 64 bit, but I'm have problems with flash 9.0, I was looking for solution and many site says to use  nspluginwrapper -i to convert the plugin. But when the nspluginwrapper says that libflash isn't NAPI compability
[03:20] <aroo> jussi01: yes
[03:21] <sumigamer2> jussi01, you know where the controls for the window are located...
[03:21] <jussi01> yes...
 try readin it http://www.karkomaonline.com/article.php/20050107132703451
[03:22] <aroo> thx
[03:23] <sumigamer2> more approriately, they should be called window decorations...
[03:24] <jussi01> sumigamer2: and they have disappeared?
[03:24] <jussi01> sumigamer2: are you using beryl?
[03:25] <javierf> someone knows if there is a specific problen on feisty amd64 and vncserver??
[03:25] <gemidjy> how can I know which restricted modules/drivers are being loaded when "Loading restricted modules" executes ?
[03:25] <gemidjy> which non-free modules actually
[03:29] <msetim> somebody know how can I solve my problem?
[03:30] <icecruncher> in thunderbired 2 in the backports?
[03:30] <icecruncher> *bird
[03:32] <tony_> Hello. Which MYSQL should I install ? client or server ? I am new to Mysql , PHP, Apache , installed PHP5, Apahe2 , but cant figure which mysql5 i need in order to start installing few script and learning about them
[03:32] <sumigamer2> jussi01, my problem is that even though I select  a window decoration from the list, it never actually gets applied,,,,,,
[03:33] <TeraDyne> tony_: server depends on client, so you'll end up installing both.
[03:33] <tony_> ok, i installed client but in adapt it shows that server is not installed
[03:34] <tony_> should i install server ? this might install the client ?
[03:34] <javierf> hello.... how can i get vncserver fully running? known problems at amd64?
[03:34] <jussi01> sumigamer2: jump into #ubuntu-effects and ask there
[03:35] <TeraDyne> tony_: yes, install server. Client will be automaticly installed.
[03:35] <tony_> Thank you .. :)
[03:36] <TeraDyne> sumigamer2: are you talking baout the window decorations in kWin (KDE default window manager) or beryl?
[03:36] <TeraDyne> about*
[03:37] <dhq_> can anyone guide me of rsync
[03:37] <icecruncher> is tehre any place where I can get thunderbird 2.deb? getdeb.net does not have them
[03:40] <sumigamer> TeraDyne, I am talking about Kwin...
[03:41] <illriginal> Can someone help me get my microphone to work? Or maybe get recognized? Sound Recorder doesn't playback what I try to record.
[03:42] <sumigamer> TeraDyne, I am talking about Kwin...
[03:42] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: ok.
[03:43] <sumigamer> and how do I change the K menu logo??
[03:44] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: can't find anything on google about installing new themes, other than compiling it. As for the K menu logo...
[03:46] <sumigamer> that K logo isnt exactly so beautiful.....
[03:47] <gemidjy> how can I get default KDE control center in Kubuntu ?
[03:48] <TeraDyne> gemidjy: Alt+F2 and run "kcontrol"
[03:48] <gemidjy> TeraDyne: yes I know how to start Kubuntu's edited KControl, I need default entries
[03:49] <sumigamer> TeraDyne, you found something about the K logo??
[03:50] <TeraDyne> gemidjy: "kcontrol" is the original control center. the edited one is a different command
[03:50] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: nothing. there's a post asking the same question on the forums that shows up, but it's unanswered.
[03:51] <gemidjy> TeraDyne: if so, where is Power management in kcontrol and IBM Thinkpad entry ?
[03:52] <HayaBusa> sorry for this stupid quetion, but what is the command to start and stop MYSQL server ? :|
[03:52] <thebosch> goede middag
[03:53] <Lynoure> HayaBusa: /etc/init.d/mysqld start   I bet
[03:53] <Lynoure> HayaBusa: and stop, for stopping
[03:54] <HayaBusa> thanks. i was missing the d at the end of mysql .. will try it now
[03:54] <sumigamer> TeraDyne, a forum says that the logo resides at /usr/share/apps/kicker/pixmpaps, but the pixmaps folder doesnt exist in the kubuntu installation...
[03:54] <Lynoure> HayaBusa: I'm not sure about the d, on debian I have no d, though
[03:54] <Lynoure> HayaBusa: you'll need to put  sudo  in the front
[03:55] <HayaBusa> thanks it workd without the "d" .. i was missing the / behind the "etc" ..
[03:59] <gilles> hi does anyone knows if there exists an open source firmware for the ipod nano (2nd gen) ??
[04:00] <gilles> as far as i know ipodlinux does not support 2nd generation ipod nanos
[04:01] <HayaBusa> is there a reason that adept manager keep failing to start ?????
[04:03] <TeraDyne> gemidjy: it looks as if there are kcontrol modules that you have to install for the thinkpad stuff. That's what everything on google is telling me.
[04:04] <TeraDyne> !info tpctl | gemidjy
[04:04] <ubotu> gemidjy: tpctl: ThinkPad hardware configuration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.17-2 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 300 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:05] <TeraDyne> gemidjy: I found that, but I can't find what package will install the kcontrol module.
[04:10] <grul> !kdevelop
[04:10] <grul> !ati
[04:10] <The_Machine> !roflcopter
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roflcopter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <TeraDyne> sumigamer: /usr/share/(theme)/(size)/kmenu.png where  (theme) is the current theme, crystalsvg by default, and (size) is the size of the icon.
[04:14] <javierf> !vncserver
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <jhutchins> !vnc
[04:16] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:24] <javierf> bye
[04:26] <aaroncampbell> Is there a light-weight gui text editor?  I usually use vi, but I'm looking for something with a gui, and it seems that all I have is OOo Writer, which is a bit much
[04:28] <dany_21a> aaroncampbell: e.g.: kate
[04:28] <aaroncampbell> yeah, looks like I have that installed too
[04:29] <Lynoure> aaroncampbell: there is x version of vim, too
[04:29] <dr_willis> dozens of text editors out
[04:29] <dr_willis> i tend to use gvim mainly :)
[04:29] <dr_willis> or fte
[04:29] <dr_willis> I like fte.
[04:30] <TeraDyne> !info vim-gtk | aaroncampbell
[04:30] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: vim-gtk: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GTK2 GUI. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.0-164+1ubuntu7.1 (feisty), package size 905 kB, installed size 1812 kB
[04:30] <TooEarly> i'm using Kubuntu Feisty Fawn, and when I use firefox and go to digg.com (or other sites that use JS) it goes extremely slow. anyone know what i could do?
[04:31] <TeraDyne> aaroncampbell: that should suit your need.
[04:33] <icecruncher> dr_willis: what is fte?
[04:33] <dr_willis> !info fte
[04:33] <ubotu> fte: Text editor for programmers - base package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.0-1.4 (feisty), package size 87 kB, installed size 332 kB
[04:33] <dr_willis> a text editror.
[04:33] <icecruncher> cool
[04:33] <icecruncher> thnks
[04:33] <icecruncher> lol
[04:34] <dr_willis> A little Odd compared to most of the others.. but i like it.
[04:34] <dr_willis> Its little.. and fast.. and works the same in console as X.
[04:34] <dr_willis> Or at least it used to - havent used it in ages
[04:34] <faidillinger> TooEarly: well i have no problem with firefox when i go to digg.com. it works like a charm
[04:34] <faidillinger> TooEarly: i am also running feisty
[04:34] <icecruncher> I don't ming old. lol fast has priority
[04:35] <TooEarly> faidillinger: i had the same problem with opensuse, firefox always froze and ran extremely slow when i ran a page with JS
[04:35] <TooEarly> i don't know what it is
[04:35] <aaroncampbell> TeraDyne: I fired up adept, added the vim-gtk package, but didn't see it in my menu anywhere, so I ran vim.gtk from a terminal, but just got plain old vim
[04:35] <faidillinger> faidillinger: i have absolutely no clue since it is running very well on my computer
[04:35] <faidillinger> TooEarly: but dont you get a slow script warning ??
[04:35] <TooEarly> nope
[04:36] <TooEarly> no warnings or anything
[04:36] <faidillinger> hmmm
[04:37] <Lynoure> aaroncampbell: try running evim instead
[04:37] <TooEarly> when i use opera, i can browse digg pretty smoothly.. but still occasionally slow
[04:37] <aaroncampbell> Lynoure: not a valid command.  whereis evim shows nothing
[04:38] <Lynoure> aaroncampbell: weird, but then again I'm not on ubuntu now...
[04:38] <dr_willis> vi is the 'must learn'  editor. :)
[04:39] <aaroncampbell> dr_willis: I use vi regularly.  I'm looking for something light-weight with a nice simple gui that I can recommend for someone else here...Even something like notepad on windows (no formatting needed, just text, open, save, close, etc)
[04:40] <dr_willis> !find notepad
[04:40] <ubotu> Found: gnotepad+, gnotepad+-help
[04:40] <dr_willis> :)
[04:40] <dr_willis> !find editor
[04:40] <ubotu> Found: emacs, emacs21, emacs21-nox, gconf-editor, kimagemapeditor (and 34 others)
[04:40] <The_Machine> i just upgraded my nvidia driver (kubuntu released) and everything feels "slower".  Any suggestions?   Graphics related things
[04:40] <dany_21a> aaroncampbell: or maybe look at "nano"
[04:41] <The_Machine> Even if i shut beryl off, etc. and i'm using Kwin.  Everything's dragging..
[04:41] <aaroncampbell> dany_21a: nano is still all keyboard...think "mouse"
[04:41] <dr_willis> sudo apt-cache search  editor | grep editor
[04:41] <dr_willis> shows several dozen.. many of which ive never even hear dof.
[04:41] <dr_willis> !info axe
[04:41] <ubotu> axe: An editor for X. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6.1.2-15 (feisty), package size 133 kB, installed size 360 kB
[04:42] <Lynoure> aaroncampbell: kate, kwrite
[04:42] <marko> need help
[04:42] <grul> !locale
[04:42] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:42] <TooEarly> aaroncampbell: scite
[04:42] <dr_willis> xjed - editor for programmers (x11 version)
[04:42] <dr_willis> xjove - X11-Frontend for jove - a compact, powerful editor
[04:42] <marko> i clicket someting don't know what and now the pult you know... when i had a program open i don't see it under there..
[04:42] <marko> please help me
[04:43] <aaroncampbell> thanks Lynoure and TooEarly I'll check them out
[04:43] <Lynoure> marko: what's the pult?
[04:43] <dr_willis> 'the pult' ?
[04:43] <marko> wait i will do a screenshoot
[04:43] <icecruncher> aaroncampbell: mousepad?
[04:46] <Blu3> what can i try to get knetworkmanager to see my network devices again?  eth0 and eth1 exist just fine but knm is reporting no nw. device found
[04:47] <marko> Lynoure, i mean that there are no programs... you understand ?http://shrani.si/files/posnetek311370g.png
[04:47] <dr_willis> the 'tea' editor seems nice and small
[04:47] <dr_willis> !info tea
[04:47] <ubotu> tea: text editor with syntax highlighting & UTF support. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.2.4-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 161 kB, installed size 456 kB
[04:47] <dr_willis> bbl
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[04:49] <marko> help ?????
[04:49] <grul> !ati
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[04:57] <grul> GE MIG
[05:06] <wsjunior> i would like to execute the commad: ati-config --set-powerstate=1 everytime i switch to battery mode, how can i do this?
[05:06] <wsjunior> to save some battery life of my laptop
[05:07] <yeniklasor> When I press "K-->Log out" there is only one option (log out). Seems like windows has a virus? there is screenshot http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7070/picture1ds2.jpg
[05:09] <wsjunior> yeniklasor: are u using beryl/xgl?
[05:09] <yeniklasor> no
[05:09] <yeniklasor> wsjunior : beryl is not active
[05:10] <wsjunior> thats because xgl runs over x so u need to logout to control the x session
[05:10] <GaryvdM> Please will someone help me. I have installed PostgreSQL on my kubuntu edgy box, but when I try run pg_ctl, it says Command not found. Where would pg_ctl normaly be installed on the fs?
[05:12] <wsjunior> yeniklasor: actually beryl doesnt need to be active, the problem is to have xgl over x. if this is not ur case i cant help :/
[05:13] <jermain> hi everyone
[05:13] <jermain> yesterday i installed a program called 'Flock' but i can't find it in my K menu. If i hit alt F2 it doesn't react to 'Flock'
[05:14] <jermain> is there anyway i can still find it?
[05:14] <yeniklasor> wsjunior : "have xgl over x" what does it mean? Must I remove beryl? I will, what you say?
[05:15] <wsjunior> try to do: ps aux | grep X
[05:16] <wsjunior> if this is ur case then u should see a X session and a Xgl session
[05:16] <yeniklasor> root      5108  1.3  3.2  37968 33792 tty7     SLs+ 16:31   1:27 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[05:16] <yeniklasor> 1000      8190  0.0  0.0   2888   768 pts/2    R+   18:15   0:00 grep X
[05:16] <Lynoure> jermain: you might have to add it to menu manually
[05:16] <jermain> Lynoure: i'd like to, but i cant find it :(
[05:16] <jhutchins_lt> jermain: dpkg -L flock should show you what was installed where.
[05:16] <jermain> th jhutchins
[05:17] <jermain> *ty
[05:17] <akrus> hello everyone
[05:17] <jermain> gasp,.. it says its not installed.. Maybe i did something wrong when i installed it
[05:17] <akrus> does someone have active IPB subscription? :D
[05:18] <jermain> thanks guys
[05:18] <yeniklasor> wsjunior | What must I do :'(
[05:18] <jermain> this channel never lets me down :)
[05:22] <yeniklasor> When I press "K-->Log out" there is only one option (log out). Seems like windows has a virus? there is screenshot http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7070/picture1ds2.jpg   Help please.
[05:22] <HayaBusa> hey guys, I created a database in mysql, i need to move two files there, but I Have no permission to do so , how can i move files to this locked folder ??? thanks
[05:23] <Yorokobi> HayaBusa, what are the files? SQL dumps or something else? Why would you want to move them to (I presume) /var/lib/mysql?
[05:24] <HayaBusa> yes, they are sql dumps , is part of the course on learning mysql , those needed to create the tables
[05:24] <HayaBusa> and yes, the db was cerated in /var/lib/mysql
[05:24] <Yorokobi> HayaBusa, you need to import the dump files, not move them in the file system
[05:25] <HayaBusa> i guess i need to execute the files right from the db in order to create the tables ???
[05:25] <Yorokobi> HayaBusa, IIRC: mysql -u username -p database < dumpfile (You should google that, just to be sure)
[05:26] <leomcabral> i installed ubuntu from liveCd, after i did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and selected kdm as my login interface manager, but i cant login (X restart and kde did not appear). I took a look at ~/.xsession-errors and a message 'can not find profile for login leomcabral'.
[05:26] <BluesKaj> yeniklasor, you have to logout then at the prompt ctrl+x to exit and reboot
[05:26] <leomcabral> what i have to do
[05:26] <leomcabral> ?
[05:26] <GaryvdM> Yorokobi: Please will you help me with a Postgre problem?
[05:26] <HayaBusa> i need to give a full path to .sql file to create the structure. i have to figure how i can do that . hehe. thanks
[05:27] <Yorokobi> GaryvdM, I may be able to. Whatcha need?
[05:28] <GaryvdM> I installed Postgre through adept. But when I type in pg_ctl in the console, it say command not found.
[05:28] <GaryvdM> Where would pg_ctl normaly be in the fs?
[05:28] <Yorokobi> GaryvdM, Debian/Ubuntu doesn't use pg_ctl, use /etc/init.d/postgres-?? instead
[05:28] <GaryvdM> oh
[05:29] <leomcabral> i installed ubuntu from liveCd, after i did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and selected kdm as my login interface manager, but i cant login (X restart and kde did not appear). I took a look at ~/.xsession-errors and a message 'can not find profile for login leomcabral'.
[05:29] <leomcabral> what i have to do?
[05:29] <henri_> does someone know how the moodbar thing in Amarok works? I see no moodbars nowhere :-)
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> this is the moment when i attempt to compile cedega from source.
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i've never had much luck, but what the heck
[05:31] <DaSkreech> !vpn
[05:31] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[05:31] <dotwood> !audio
[05:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:31] <dotwood> !mic
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <BluesKaj> henri_, open amarok/pl/general/click on moodbar
[05:33] <GaryvdM> Thanks Yorokobi. That works.
[05:34] <Yorokobi> GaryvdM, yw
[05:34] <user_> kllk
[05:34] <user_> ioioo
[05:34] <wsjunior> is there any tool to control which services are started at boot?
[05:34] <leomcabral> i installed ubuntu from liveCd, after i did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and selected kdm as my login interface manager, but i cant login (X restart and kde did not appear). I took a look at ~/.xsession-errors and a message 'can not find profile for login leomcabral'. What I have to do to fix this?
[05:34] <henri_> BluesKaj: what? i dont see any moodbars to click on :-)
[05:34] <user_> tut esti ktoto russs
[05:35] <user_> kak skacati mu cerez linux???????????/
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !en
[05:35] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:35] <BluesKaj> henri_, click on the moodbar package , that takes you to the moodbar wensite where you can download and install
[05:36] <leomcabral> any one?
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> !ru
[05:36] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:36] <Yorokobi> leomcabral, does KDM start?
[05:37] <wsjunior> what is the kubuntu tool to control which services are started at boot?
[05:37] <HayaBusa> how can i execture .sql file ???
[05:37] <leomcabral> Yorokobi: yes
[05:37] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: Tell us what DOES happen.
[05:37] <HayaBusa> in the book says execute the creat.sql file .. but not much info on syntax
[05:38] <HayaBusa> execture = execute :|
[05:38] <jhutchins_lt> HayaBusa: Do you have a .sql file that you wish to import to a database?
[05:38] <HayaBusa> Yes
[05:38] <HayaBusa> it called, create.sql
[05:38] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: the system starts, kdm open, i put my login and password, press ENTER, the screen get black and returns to kdm
[05:38] <jhutchins_lt> The syntax is mysql -u<user> -p < create.sql
[05:39] <henri_> BluesKaj: sorry but i have this thing so far out... I already installed the moodbar package with apt-get install moodbar and checked the box to use moodbars in Amarok settings
[05:39] <Yorokobi> leomcabral, yes, what happens when you try logging in. Do you get Gnome? In the default KDM display there's a graphic that looks like a drop-down menu, click it then "Sessions" and pick KDE
[05:39] <leomcabral> Yorokobi: neither gnome or kde starts
[05:39] <user_> mu
[05:39] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: Try ctrl-alt-f1, which will put you in a console.  See what happens if you try to log in there.
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that didn't go well.
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> several pages of errors in make :(
[05:40] <henri_> BluesKaj: but now i dont know where to look for moodbars :-)
[05:40] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: that's not good.
[05:40] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: i did this, and i saw i my .xsession-erros a message telling that my user have no profile
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> TeraDyne: tell me about it
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> going to go through configure's output (which gave no errors) and see if there's anything i might be missing
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: You mean you wer able to log in in console and look at the files, correct?
[05:41] <metbsd> how do i install pidgin
[05:41] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: yes
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: You might try creating a new user and check to see if that user can log in.
[05:42] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: i tried, same thing
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: You may also try moving the .kde in your home directory.
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: Ok, then it's the login mechanism that can't access the password file.
[05:42] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: it access the password file
[05:43] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: if i try a non existing user or password it fails and tell me that the password or user are incorrect
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> WARNING:  Make.rules.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: Well, it's failing to access something.  The only thing I can think of that "profile" would be would be the user information in the password file.
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> that ^^ doesn't look good
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> Daisuke_Ido: What are you building.
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: perhaps if you were to remove and reinstall kdm.
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> cedega
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> cvs
[05:44] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: maybe it's a bug, one friend of mine have the same problem
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> leomcabral: No, something about your installation is broken.
[05:45] <leomcabral> jhutchins_lt: I remove kdm (with purge) and installed it again, and still not working
[05:46] <leomcabral> i'll try again, i'll be back soon
[06:01] <julius> for people who installed kubuntu from a kubuntu disc, does firefox use the gnome file browser?
[06:01] <julius> cause it does for me :(
[06:02] <GaryvdM> How do you tell the difference? (I'm a noob)
[06:02] <grul> !Music
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <grul> hey, does anyone know a nice program for producing music under ubuntu?
[06:02] <julius> open firefox and press ctrl + O, if you get a goddamn ugly file browser then im not the only one :p
[06:03] <julius> grul: have a look at the pre packaged software list for ubuntu studio
[06:03] <julius> should have some good things there
[06:03] <GaryvdM> Oh yes - it has the green/brown folder icons
[06:03] <TeraDyne> !ubuntu-studio
[06:03] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[06:04] <grul> ardour, hmm mm hmm
[06:07] <WaxyFresh> the kubuntu feisty install cd stops loading at 11% any ideas?
[06:09] <icecruncher> my kopete menu disapeared, how can i get it bck?
[06:09] <TeraDyne> WaxyFresh: Did you try running the "Check CD For Defects" option at the boot menu?
[06:09] <TeraDyne> icecruncher: try Ctrl + M
[06:09] <marko> i need help... quickly i can't see no program here http://shrani.si/files/posnetek311370g.png
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> well, the compile hasn't crashed like john denver yet, so i'm happy
[06:09] <marko> please
[06:09] <WaxyFresh> TeraDyne: that stops at 11% also
[06:09] <icecruncher> TeraDyne: :) thnks lol
[06:10] <grul> julius, thanks
[06:10] <TeraDyne> WaxyFresh: Sounds like a defective cd. Did you do an md5sum check before burning it?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> marko: bummer.
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> it's been happening occasionally
[06:10] <marko> bummer?
[06:11] <marko> what do you mean?:o
[06:11] <TeraDyne> marko: right click on the panel and select "add applet to panel". Find the "Taskbar" option and double-click it.
[06:11] <WaxyFresh> tera no
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> TeraDyne: this is happening way too frequently for that to be the case every time
[06:11] <WaxyFresh> TeraDyne: no how do i?
[06:12] <TeraDyne> !md5sum
[06:12] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[06:12] <marko> wtf
[06:12] <marko> i will just reboot
[06:12] <marko> :(
[06:12] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: I know. It sounds like a bug that's removing the taskbar.
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> how about logging out and back in
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> instead of rebooting
[06:12] <marko> rebopoting
[06:12] <marko> :D
[06:13] <marko> rebooting*
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> idiot.
[06:13] <grul> !apache2
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <grul> !apache
[06:13] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i know that's not very nice, but until they wrap their heads around the fact that this isn't windows...  my sympathy well is dry
[06:14] <icecruncher> Daisuke_Ido: yep
[06:15] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: agreed.
[06:15] <Daisuke_Ido> rebooting isn't the be-all-end-all of solutions, and 95% of the time isn't even necessary!
[06:17] <ksivaji> !ext2
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <ksivaji> !ext3
[06:17] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:17] <ksivaji> !mount
[06:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:18] <TeraDyne> XD, knows about ext3, but not ext2.
[06:18] <WaxyFresh> dromer: did you get my pm?
[06:18] <dromer> WaxyFresh: no, have you registered?
[06:19] <WaxyFresh> oops i sent that in the wrong Chanel.
[06:19] <dromer> hehe
[06:19] <TeraDyne> XD
[06:19] <icecruncher> Daisuke_Ido: well in win it is often a solution
[06:19] <icecruncher> :)
[06:20] <icecruncher> Daisuke_Ido: It's so messed up there is no other option
[06:21] <TeraDyne> icecruncher: I'm speaking form experience when I say this, but, in windows, the solutions tend to create more problems, rebooting included.
[06:21] <TeraDyne> from*
[06:22] <icecruncher> TeraDyne: true, but often frustration build up, at least for me and some of my friends, the reset button is quick and easy
[06:22] <icecruncher> lol
[06:23] <WaxyFresh> TeraDyne: md5 checks out
[06:23] <TeraDyne> WaxyFresh: I'm not sure then. Try asking on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:24] <TeraDyne> WaxyFresh: There should be a subforum called "Installation"
[06:24] <WaxyFresh> TeraDyne: no boot options you might suggest?
[06:24] <GaryvdM> !md5
[06:24] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:25] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: Live or alt CD?
[06:25] <jhutchins_lt> Er, WaxyFresh ^
[06:25] <TeraDyne> WaxyFresh: Are you using the LiveCD? If you are, you might try the Alternate Install CD, or if you're using the DVD, use the Text Install option.
[06:25] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: beat me to it.
[06:25] <icecruncher> night all
[06:25] <ksivaji> i created one ext3 partition but i cant write into that as a subuser
[06:26] <jhutchins_lt> ksivaji: I believe the mount defaults are now set to root access only.  You can modify your fstab to make the partition default to user accessible.
[06:27] <WaxyFresh> jhutchins_lt:  live install
[06:27] <ksivaji> jhutchins_lt how
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> ksivaji: I think the information on what to put in fstab is in the windows/mac factoid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:27] <TeraDyne> !alternate | WaxyFresh
[06:27] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:27] <ksivaji> jhutchins_lt ok
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> WaxyFresh: You might try that alt cd install, it may give you more feedback.  You can also try running fsck on the partition from the live CD.
[06:29] <GaryvdM> !wxchecksums
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wxchecksums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <WaxyFresh> jhutchins_lt: ive had ubuntu running on this before and it always freezes up when the kernal loads the hotplug subsytem,it just stops for ten minutes then continues,could this have something to do with it?
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> WaxyFresh: As long as it continues I wouldn't worry about it.  That can be a fairly complex and involved step.
[06:30] <WaxyFresh> whats the command to turn off lapci druing install?
[06:30] <WaxyFresh> jhutchins_thanks
[06:31] <BluesKaj> !checksums
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about checksums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <ksivaji> BluesKaj hi
[06:32] <GaryvdM> What software can I use to create a md5?
[06:32] <TeraDyne> !md5sum
[06:32] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[06:33] <BluesKaj> hi ksivaji
[06:34] <GaryvdM> Ah - it is allready installed - thanks
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> WaxyFresh: nolapci
[06:35] <julius> do all your apps like firefox use the konquer browser or the natulius browser
[06:36] <sweettooth> hey anyone familiar with bluetooth in kubuntu? trying to pair up my mobile phone, but don't seem to know the passcode
[06:39] <WaxyFresh> jhutchins_lt: do you think i could put the hard dive from thge laptop i want to install to into another laptop and install then switch the HD back?
[06:39] <ksivaji> sweettooth ask #ubuntu-in Sup3rkiddo
[06:41] <WaxyFresh> the 64 bit kkubuntu dosent have everything the 32 bit does right?like flash/macromedia etc etc?
[06:42] <underdog5004> wow, slow day
[06:42] <underdog5004> so, I just installed dolphin...it seems very very nice
[06:42] <underdog5004> and lighter than konqueror
[06:42] <pag> WaxyFresh, well... at least it's harder to get those to work on 64bit
[06:42] <crash_> Woe is me, for broadcom is the devil.
[06:43] <WaxyFresh> pag: thanks
[06:43] <TeraDyne> !flash64 | WaxyFresh
[06:43] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:44] <crash_> !wireless
[06:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:44] <underdog5004> crash_, yeah, no doubt
[06:45] <WaxyFresh> how would you guys say kubuntu differs from debian?
[06:45] <crash_> has ANYONE managed to get a wifi card with the Broadcom 9318 chipset to function?
[06:46] <jhutchins_lt> Debian is much slower about adopting the patches that are applied to ubuntu/kubuntu.  Many of the patches have to do with creating a smooth integration and consistent look-and-feel, others are functional.
[06:46] <underdog5004> WaxyFresh, I think the main way is the use of sudo
[06:46] <underdog5004> not sure though, I've only run debian a virtual machine for a few days
[06:46] <crash_> er.. BCM4318
[06:46] <WaxyFresh> how does the use of sudo differ?
[06:47] <crash_> !broadcom
[06:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <TeraDyne> crash_: acer laptop?
[06:47] <underdog5004> WaxyFresh, ummm, when I was using debian, I had to su, I wasn't on the sudoers list.
[06:47] <underdog5004> crash_, use ndiswrapper
[06:48] <underdog5004> my gf has the same card
[06:48] <crash_> Ive installed ndiswrapper, loaded the bcmwl5a.inf file into it, and then run ndiswrapper -m
[06:48] <crash_> No joy.
[06:48] <toma_> when booting from the feisty desktop cd, and choose install, i get a busybox error '/bin/sh: can't acccess tty; job control truned off'
[06:48] <underdog5004> crash_, try restarting
[06:48] <underdog5004> lol, such a windows answer
[06:48] <TeraDyne> crash_: did you run "modprobe ndiswrapper" ?
[06:49] <crash_> Before, using the kernels bcm43xx thing, I could see the interface, just couldnt get a signal.
[06:49] <crash_> Now I cant even see the interface.
[06:50] <crash_> Im not even sure the kernel is loading the driver. Hell, Im not even sure Im using the correct terminology.
[06:50] <ksivaji> i created one ext3 partition  and it is mounted   but i cant write in that as a subuser (sivaji)  only root can r/w  now what option should i select "default or sw or rw" to make it r/w
[06:50] <TeraDyne> crash_: Did you run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[06:55] <crash_> trying that now
[06:55] <crash_> ... no visible output from the command line
[06:55] <TeraDyne> crash_: there shouldn't be. that loads the kernel module.
[06:55] <TeraDyne> try using "iwconfig" and pastebin the results
[06:55] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <marko> it
[06:55] <marko> didn't worked
[06:55] <marko> :/
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> marko: Yeah, no kidding.
[06:57] <semistud2354> I have a question....is it possible to make firefox more like internet explorer
[06:58] <semistud2354> im trying to get this websight working...but it needs internet explorer
[06:58] <ksivaji> semistud2354  more means
[06:58] <underdog5004> semistud2354, although I hate it, yes, there is. You can download a theme that mimics IE
[06:58] <underdog5004> semistud2354, lol, you need something that disguises a browser signature, I think
[06:59] <dr_willis> Making it LOOK like ie ... clarify look. You want it to 'identify' as Internet explorer  :)
[06:59] <jhutchins_lt> Opera is probably the easiest one to spoof browser ID with.
[06:59] <dr_willis> Opera has that feature built in i belive.. seen some proxy servers that can do it for NS.
[06:59] <dr_willis> May be some Firefox Extensions taht add the feature. Never really needed it.
[06:59] <jhutchins_lt> Firefox can do it, but it's not in the preference menus.
[07:00] <jhutchins_lt> I think you have to go through the about:config page or something.  I get so annoyed with that stuff I usually find a way to use something other than firfox.
[07:00] <TeraDyne> unless the site is using activeX, then making FF identify itself as IE "might" work. There is one other "option", if yoy can call it that.
[07:01] <ksivaji>  i created one ext3 partition  and it is mounted   but i cant write in that as a subuser (sivaji)  only root can r/w  now what option should i select "default or sw or rw" to make it r/w
[07:01] <TeraDyne> there are some sites that won't work even when FF is identifying itself as IE.
[07:02] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there something similar to zenity in kde? I want to write a bash script with a gui popups, which was easy with zenity - does kde have a similar feature?
[07:03] <dr_willis> could always install zenity :)
[07:03] <dr_willis> i think theres somthing similer. but cant recall what its called.
[07:04] <jhutchins_lt> ksivaji: Really, no fair coming back and asking the same question, hoping for an answer where you don't have to read something.
[07:04] <ksivaji> jhutchins_lt i read that but i dont find what i need
[07:05] <HayaBusa> how can i activate SHADE using keyboard ?????
[07:05] <coreymon77> jhutchins_lt: look at the pm please
[07:05] <dr_willis> check the keyboard bindings control panel thing..  it maybe allready bound.
[07:05] <marko> jhutchins, ?
[07:05] <marko> jhutchins_lt, ?
[07:07] <jhutchins_lt> ksivaji: Look at the part where it discusses options for manually mounting partitions.  It clearly shows the difference between root-only and all-user access, and includes specific-group-only access.
[07:07] <dr_willis> SHADE does not seem bound to anything by default
[07:07] <jhutchins_lt> ksivaji: Your difference is that you can use either type auto, or type ext3.
[07:08] <semistud2354_> is there a way to make firefox...view a webpage that was made for internet explorer?????
[07:08] <HayaBusa> thanks.
[07:08] <ksivaji> jhutchins_lt that is not a problem option matter
[07:08] <underdog5004> semistud2354, google for "agent spoofer"
[07:08] <dr_willis> semistud2354_,  have it 'spoof' its identiy. with either a firefox extension,
[07:08] <dr_willis> agent.. thats the term. :)
[07:09] <TeraDyne> "useragent" actually
[07:09] <semistud2354_> how do you do that
[07:09] <underdog5004> semistud2354, do it for yourself
[07:09] <underdog5004> google is your friend
[07:09] <dr_willis> i would start by checking the firefox extension site
[07:10] <semistud2354_> kk
[07:11] <grul> !python
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <grul> piss
[07:11] <grul> sorry
[07:13] <semistud2354_> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=explorer&status=4&show=50
[07:13] <semistud2354_> what about the ie tab
[07:13] <semistud2354_> ...does that make a tab that is like...internet explorer
[07:13] <grul> hey, does anyone have experience with python + mysql + apache2?
[07:13] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: IE Tab only works on Windows
[07:14] <semistud2354_> god dammit...
[07:14] <semistud2354_> lol
[07:14] <TeraDyne> !ohmy | semistud2354_
[07:14] <TeraDyne> botlag
[07:14] <ubotu> semistud2354_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> the best way to deal with pages meant for internet explorer only is to avoid them
[07:15] <semistud2354_> srry
[07:15] <TeraDyne> I thought there was a user agent switcher
[07:15] <semistud2354_> what about grease monkey??
[07:15] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[07:15] <attic> hiho
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> as more standards compliant browsers become household names there is more incentive for web designers to make their pages standards compliant.  anything less is sheer laziness
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> coreymon77: What was it you needed?
[07:16] <jussi01> grul: you could try #apache
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> Let's watch the language, gentlemen, there are children present.
[07:17] <MaTiAz> :)
[07:18] <semistud2354_> so that addon..to firefox what does it do??
[07:18] <semistud2354_> user agent switcher??
[07:19] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: it allows you to change the browser's "useragent" identity, making the website think it's IE or whatever browser identity you choose.
[07:20] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: if that doesn't work, there's one other option, though I suggest it only as a last resort.
[07:20] <semistud2354_> ok...
[07:21] <DexterF> hi
[07:21] <DexterF> does kubuntu automount floppy drives?
[07:21] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Or, as suggested before, you can install opera, which has that feature built in.
[07:21] <DexterF> (those things from the 80s, obsololete)
[07:21] <jhutchins_lt> !floppy | DexterF
[07:21] <ubotu> DexterF: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[07:21] <semistud2354_> yea
[07:22] <DexterF> jhutchins_lt: oh, ah, ok
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> ksivaji: That page might be more helpful to you.
[07:22] <semistud2354_> its this like...business websight..it says i need internet explorer...
[07:22] <ksivaji> jhutchins_lt ok thank you
[07:22] <semistud2354_> when i go on it with firefox...the page is kinda messed up
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: That's not something you can fix.
[07:22] <DexterF> jhutchins_lt: there's talk of 5.10, I'm on 7.04. still applies? have to mount manually?
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: That's something only the page's author can fix.
[07:23] <semistud2354_> that agent thing doesnt work
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> DexterF: Still applies, I think.
[07:23] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: even that's doubtful
[07:23] <semistud2354_> why whold they make it only for IE
[07:23] <dr_willis> kinda messed up sounds like HTML differances the author overlooked
[07:23] <semistud2354_> isnt ie one of the most unsafe broswsers
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: MS Myopia.
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Microsoft is all some people know about.
[07:24] <semistud2354_> on the websight it says you need IE to view the content correctly
[07:24] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: IE allows certian tags that FF can't show properly.
[07:24] <semistud2354_> theres no way to mimic the tags
[07:24] <semistud2354_> on firefox
[07:24] <dr_willis> 'easier to post a disclamer then to fix the code'
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: The City of Kansas City, Missouri, uses big commercial software packages that are written for use only with IE.
[07:24] <semistud2354_> or a browser that does mimic
[07:24] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: I'm betting that thing has activeX controls..
[07:25] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: what's the link to the site?
[07:25] <semistud2354_> so if it does have active x controlls then there is nothing i can do about that
[07:25] <jhutchins_lt> IE also displays some things _incorrectly_, and MS-centric users sometimes use that as a "feature".
[07:25] <semistud2354_> um
[07:25] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: there is something you can do, but it's a last resort option.
[07:25] <semistud2354_> its this websight that is connected to a security camera
[07:26] <semistud2354_> that watches my parents warehouse
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Yeah, that's just the sort of page that comes pre-configured to only work with MS.
[07:26] <semistud2354_> but some guy set it up...the camara doesnt show up
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Suggest to your parents that the guy is incompetent.
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Hope they haven't paid him yet.
[07:27] <semistud2354_> yea....lol
[07:27] <hilary> Hello all
[07:28] <semistud2354_> i think that only a windows computer can connect to the camaras
[07:28] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: Think I should mention a certian "wine" option?
[07:28] <semistud2354_> but i installed feisty on my parents computer at home
[07:28] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: Yeah, no harm in this instance.
[07:28] <TeraDyne> !ies4linux | semistud2354_
[07:28] <ubotu> semistud2354_: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[07:28] <semistud2354_> so theres nothing i can do besides wine
[07:29] <TeraDyne> semistud2354_: try that. ^
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: That and get them to fix the webpage properly.
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> 'cause we know there are webcams that work under linux.
[07:29] <semistud2354_> i have no say...they just want for me to get it work...lol
[07:29] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: Unless it's using an activeX control, then there's little hope.
[07:29] <semistud2354_> its not a webcam...its a security camara...looking at the entrence of my parents warehouse
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Do you have the java pluggins for firefox?
[07:30] <GdC> ciaociao
[07:31] <semistud2354_> lol...looks like i have to put windows back on my parents computer
[07:31] <semistud2354_> yea...
[07:31] <semistud2354_> tested it myself...so i know its on
[07:31] <semistud2354_> lol
[07:31] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Why not just use IE on wine?
[07:31] <semistud2354_> would there be an icon on the desktop
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: I'd always suggest a dual-boot system in cases like that, saves you getting in trouble.
[07:32] <semistud2354_> cuz my parents are extreamly computer illeritate
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: You could make one.
[07:32] <semistud2354_> i would put windows on my parents computer....but i already have feisty
[07:32] <semistud2354_> is there a way to put windows
[07:32] <semistud2354_> ??
[07:32] <semistud2354_> with out reinstalling ubuntu
[07:33] <semistud2354_> kubuntu*
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Yes.
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: do you have a free partition?
[07:33] <ardchoille> semistud2354_: Yes, there is a way of installing Windows after installing Ubuntu, but it will require that you repair grub.
[07:34] <ardchoille> jhutchins_lt: I'll let you handle this one.
[07:34] <semistud2354_> how
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: do you have a free partition?
[07:35] <semistud2354_> umm...when i installed feisty..i just said for it to use all of the hard disk
[07:36] <semistud2354_> i dont konw if that helps or not
[07:36] <semistud2354_> lol
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: Ok, you're going to need to use qparted to shrink the ext3 partition and create a new one.  You can flag it as ntfs.  You should then be able to run the windows installer normally.
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354_: You will then need to restore grub.
[07:36] <semistud2354_> how do you restore grub
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> !grub | semistud2354_
[07:36] <ubotu> semistud2354_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:38] <venik> can anyone help me with vsftpd?
[07:38] <venik> how do I set the password for it?
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> venik: Read the fine documentation that comes with it.
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> venik: You need to know more than just how to set the password or your system will be p0wned.
[07:43] <venik> I have set up the vsftpd.conf file, and it worked for a while.  I simply cannot recall how I set up the password
[07:44] <venik> I had to reinstall my system, so the settings for vsftpd were lost
[07:46] <jhutchins_lt> venik: If I wanted to tell you how to set the password, I would have to read the docs myself.  That would not leave you with the accidentally acquired but necessary knowledge you'll gain in the process.
[07:49] <DexterF> I just tried to talk a freind thru mounting a floppy.
[07:49] <DexterF> the mount point wasn't there. had her create it.
[07:49] <DexterF> issued mount -t auto /dev/fd0 ...
[07:49] <fairman> Please, how can i create link from desktop to application mysql?I created link, but i need /etc/init.d/mysql start - i need the "start" string - how can i add it.
[07:49] <DexterF> /dev/fd0 doesn't exist
[07:49] <DexterF> what the hell?
[07:50] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: What are you trying to do?  Start/stop the server from the desktop?
[07:50] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: i need both from the desktop and i need the parameter
[07:51] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: In the configuration tools there is one that starts/stops services.
[07:51] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: try using quotes.
[07:51] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: do you mean the features of the link in desktop?
[07:52] <crash_> Still no joy with this broadcom card.l
[07:52] <jussi01> crash_: its broadcomm....
[07:52] <jhutchins_lt> ?
[07:52] <TFrog> anyone here know where i might find deb files for Alien Arena?
[07:52] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: this is my command: '/etc/init.d/no_start/mysql' (no_start means do not start in when the system start)
[07:53] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: '/etc/init.d/no_start/mysql start' does not work
[07:53] <danny500> hey question
[07:53] <danny500> who uses firfox in here
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: You mean it doesn't work from the console, or it doesn't work in an icon?
[07:54] <danny500> with the fasterfox plugin
[07:54] <TFrog> i do danny500
[07:54] <TFrog> never tried it
[07:54] <danny500> it caches every web page you go on so that the internet comes up faster
[07:54] <Jared> Hey, looking at getting rid of Windows and so far I like Kubuntu.  Just wondering what others opinions are of it
[07:55] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: it does not work in icon, from the console it is ok, but i need add parameter
[07:55] <danny500> but anyways does your firefox loading bar ever give you weard readings like 2000% complete and stuff like that?
[07:55] <deeo> DexterF: MAKEDEV fd
[07:55] <deeo> rather
[07:55] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: For the icon, either escape the space with \ or surround the command with quotes.
[07:55] <TFrog> i don't have that issue danny500
[07:55] <deeo> DexterF: cd /dev; sudo MAKEDEV fd
[07:55] <danny500> because for about a month now my firefox has forgotten how to count properly
[07:56] <danny500> when iot's loading a webpage sometimes it'll tell me it's 2347% complete
[07:56] <TFrog> hmmmmmmmm. maybe it's the plugin
[07:56] <danny500> or this one made me laugh
[07:56] <DexterF> deeo: that woman is a user. I have a dickens of a time talking her thru the most basic shell commands. but that's not the point, the point is that there's all kind of automount crud in kub, but not for the floppy? wtF?
[07:56] <danny500> it said it was 11% complete lol
[07:56] <danny500> 110%*
[07:56] <DexterF> just figured it's /dev/fd/0 not /dev/fd0. great.
[07:56] <deeo> oh, there you go
[07:57] <deeo> incidentally it should be a simple matter of putting the floppy in and clicking 'open in new window'
[07:57] <danny500> I also have s set up to tell me how much cache it takes from each page and it told me that it just saved 580GB of cache lol
[07:57] <DexterF> exactly that window didn't come up
[07:57] <deeo> hm, sounds like a bug
[07:57] <danny500> my hard drive right now is only 20GB lol
[07:57] <deeo> DexterF: is it a fresh feisty install?
[07:58] <danny500> ya doesn't do anything to me I just find it amussing and I was wondering if anyone else has this happening
[07:58] <deeo> ...oh that's dumb, the fstab has /dev/fd0 by default it looks like.
[07:58] <danny500> lol
[07:58] <deeo> DexterF: that's according to my fstab mind you, and i don't even have a floppy drive (in any of my systems)
[07:58] <DexterF> deeo: talking of which, I'm not sure right now if she has 7.04 or 6.06 over there
[07:59] <DexterF> but I guess even the ancient 6.06 knew about floppies
[08:00] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I own an Xbox 360 and can only share from Windows, is there anyway I can share from Kubuntu?
[08:00] <Jared> anyone have wise words of wisdom about beryl or compiz?
[08:00] <DexterF> Jared: yup: wait till its stable
[08:01] <Jared> I thought compiz was?
[08:01] <deeo> DexterF: irregardless, that's an incorrect fstab entry which i'm certain was a default, i'd never modify that value.  on my system it also puts the fd nod in /dev/fd/0
[08:01] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: '/etc/init.d/no_start/mysql\ start' does not work :(
[08:01] <deeo> Jared: use nvidia, heh.
[08:01] <K-Ryan> Beryl works fine for me
[08:01] <Jared> I have nvidia driver
[08:01] <K-Ryan> Me too
[08:01] <K-Ryan> No problems whatsoever
[08:01] <Jared> can't get beryl to work on kubuntu but works fine on ubuntu
[08:01] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: "the command was not found"
[08:01] <DexterF> deeo: didn't chekc fstab since /meida/floppy didn't even exist
[08:01] <K-Ryan> At what part does it not work?
[08:01] <deeo> DexterF: fwiw i upgraded from dapper or somesuch to feisty here.
[08:01] <DexterF>  /media ofc
[08:01] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: Ah, probably needs to run as root.
[08:01] <deeo> DexterF: that's normal, actually.
[08:02] <DexterF> why?
[08:02] <deeo> DexterF: it typically creates the directories on demand.
[08:02] <Jared> adding repository
[08:02] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: so use sudo, and use quotes.
[08:02] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: no, i set the user "root" when it is loading, he is asking for my password, this is not problem
[08:02] <deeo> DexterF: i have no clue HOW it works, but that's because it's never really been an issue for me
[08:02] <deeo> DexterF: i assume it's automounter though
[08:02] <DexterF> no automounter installed, all kde
[08:02] <DexterF> so dbus i guess
[08:02] <K-Ryan> jared: You're running Feisty, yes?
[08:02] <Jared> yep
[08:03] <DexterF> well, my cdrom mount points are there regardless if a disc is in or not
[08:03] <K-Ryan> In Adept you clicked "Adept" then went to the third party software tab right?
[08:03] <Jared> guess not
[08:03] <venik> thanks for this useful help
[08:03] <K-Ryan> Go there ;)
[08:03] <Jared> again, I'm still new to linux
[08:03] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: i created successful the icon for Apache server where is need root
[08:03] <K-Ryan> It's okay, we all were at one time
[08:03] <venik> READ the manual is a generic advice
[08:04] <venik> and usually useless
[08:04] <marko> could someone help me as you see in this screenshot http://shrani.si/files/posnetek31137h7.png they aren't listed the programs that are open... how i fix that?:/
[08:04] <Jared> I'm sure if I check out Adept I can figure it out
[08:04] <Jared> thanks
[08:04] <deeo> DexterF: maybe i have some weird software installed, haven't cleaned up my inst in ages.
[08:04] <K-Ryan> jared: I can walk you through it
[08:04] <jhutchins_lt> fairman: Need to be root (use sudo) to start/stop mysqld.
[08:04] <K-Ryan> It doesn't take long either
[08:04] <Jared> I'm actually not on that computer right now.  Still at work
[08:04] <Jared> thanks for the offer
[08:04] <K-Ryan> Oh, alright
[08:05] <K-Ryan> Well if you still don't get it, you can come back on here and ask around.
[08:05] <Jared> cool, thanks ryan
[08:05] <K-Ryan> There are usually people on here willing to help
[08:05] <DexterF> venik: if someone obviously knows that an app has good docs and tells you they answer your question, what's wrong with following that advice?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> No problem
[08:05] <jhutchins_lt> venik: Actually, you'd be surprised at the number of questions that actually are answered, and clearly, in the manual.
[08:05] <jhutchins_lt> venik: A lot of man pages aren't clear - they're more like technical references for programmers, but some are very clear.
[08:05] <venik> I shall be surprised, indeed
[08:06] <fairman> jhutchins_lt: Yes, i know, but i set root as user, which is running the application, he is asking for my password, but then it crashed and says "the command was not found"
[08:06] <venik> but thanks anyway
[08:06] <jhutchins_lt> Besides which, there's often more that the user needs to know than just the answer to a specific question, and directing them to a good manual helps.
[08:07] <K-Ryan> Is there a reason why in Konsole under settings it says "Schema" instead of scheme?
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> Either we know that answering the question will lead directly to a new question, or we know that there are other things they need to know.
[08:07] <marko> can't no one help me?!
[08:07] <DexterF> marko: if no one answers, this probably means no. but IRC is about patience, too
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> marko: Looks like kicker is either dead or hidden.
[08:07] <DexterF> 4 minutes is nothing.
[08:08] <DexterF> sometimes it takes time
[08:08] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: That's just what they chose to call that option.
[08:08] <marko> jhutchins_lt, you know how can i fix it?:D
[08:08] <K-Ryan> jhutchins_lt: But it's more like a typo.
[08:09] <jussi01> marko: whats the problem?
[08:09] <marko> jussi01,
[08:09] <marko> could someone help me as you see in this screenshot http://shrani.si/files/posnetek31137h7.png they aren't listed the programs that are open... how i fix that?:/
[08:09] <DexterF> marko: you need to install the window list applet. rightclick empty space, go applets, figure the rest
[08:09] <jhutchins_lt> marko: try opening a console and entering dcop kicker kicker restart
[08:09] <TeraDyne> DexterF: don't you mean the Taskbar applet?
[08:10] <marko> DexterF, i did it..
[08:10] <marko> but it's not the same
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> That or xchat is covering up kicker.
[08:10] <marko> like it was
[08:10] <marko> it isn't covering
[08:10] <DexterF> TeraDyne: well, yes. kicker is there but not the applet.
[08:10] <marko> i tryed re reboot
[08:10] <marko> the pc it's the same
[08:11] <K-Ryan> marko: THat's because rebooting wouldn't fix that
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> marko: Generally rebooting doesn't fix things in linux.
[08:11] <marko> aha:D
[08:11] <marko> ok
[08:11] <K-Ryan> Rebooting is for hardware changes
[08:11] <K-Ryan> As a general rule of thumb
[08:11] <DexterF> marko: can you make a new screenie? dont know what "isn't covering" means
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> Ah, the image was cropped here.
[08:12] <marko> ok
[08:12] <marko> i will do it
[08:12] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: even then, it's rare when that's needed.
[08:12] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: Yeah
[08:13] <marko> DexterF, here
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> marko: right click on the taskbar, choose panel menu, add applet, Desktop Preview & Pager.
[08:14] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: Desktop Preview & Pager?
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> Yessir.
[08:14] <marko> DexterF, http://shrani.si/files/posnetek32137je.png
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: right-click the little handle to the left of it.
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> marko: right click on the taskbar, choose panel menu, add applet, Desktop Preview & Pager.
[08:15] <marko> I'm doing it but the problem is i have it in sloveian language and i don't know what desktop preview & pager is:D
[08:15] <msetim> Is there anyone that have a Keyspan Remote Control?
[08:15] <marko> can you do me a screenshot?
[08:15] <TeraDyne> I see  a pager in the second pic.
[08:15] <CrunchyFerrett> Fracking frikkin cobalt
[08:16] <Quakeile> ji, in windows i would have written "explorer" in the run dialog to get my start button and panel back? What do I write in kde?
[08:16] <CrunchyFerrett> I can make everything except this frelling broadcom work
[08:16] <Quakeile> *hi =)
[08:16] <K-Ryan> kicker
[08:16] <Quakeile> hmm, I've tried that, doesn't help=/
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> Quakeile:  try opening a console and entering dcop kicker kicker restart
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> CrunchyFerrett: Some hardare just doesn't work under linux.
[08:18] <marko> jhutchins_lt,
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> hardware even.
[08:18] <ardchoille> dcop kicker default restart
[08:19] <TeraDyne> Marko, judging between the first and second pic, the taskbar is missing. Right click on your panel and select the second option from the botton
[08:19] <TeraDyne> bottom*
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> ardchoille: Ooh, what does that do?
[08:19] <ardchoille> Restarts kicker
[08:19] <marko> TeraDyne, and what then
[08:20] <TeraDyne> marko: sorry, wrong option. It's the top option in the right click menu.
[08:20] <Quakeile> doesnt do the trick
[08:20] <marko> the taskbar i try it
[08:20] <marko> ...
[08:20] <Quakeile> doesn't do the trick
[08:20] <marko> i have it but it's not the same
[08:20] <marko> like it was
[08:20] <marko> before..
[08:20] <marko> :s
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> ardchoille: Interesting, on my system the first restarts it - WITHOUT THE APP LIST!  The second just hangs.
[08:21] <TeraDyne> marko: could you post a pic?
[08:21] <marko> i will
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> A second instance restarts it correctly, although I've lost my networm monitor.
[08:21] <ardchoille> jhutchins_lt: Interesting, the one I posted restarts kicker as normal
[08:22] <ardchoille> jhutchins_lt: I guess it's true what they say; no two Linux systems are exactly alike.
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, I'm getting the same behavior out of each now.
[08:23] <ardchoille> jhutchins_lt: Does the network monitor sometimes cause problems? I've never used it.
[08:23] <marko> TeraDyne, that you will understand it better it looks like that now http://shrani.si/files/posnetek33137k3.png
[08:23] <Quakeile> something is stuck...how do I start the performance monitor, the graphic one?
[08:23] <marko> but before it was looking like that http://shrani.si/?posnetek26119df.png
[08:23] <ardchoille> Quakeile: From a terminal: ksysguard
[08:24] <Quakeile> ty
[08:24] <ardchoille> Or from alt+f2, up to you
[08:24] <TeraDyne> marko, I'm not sure now. I've never seen that happen. ardchoille, jhutchins_lt, have any idea that the heck happened to his taskbar?
[08:24] <TeraDyne> what*
[08:24] <marko> ://
[08:25] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: The most common cause of kicker problems are applets not playing well with other thins
[08:25] <marko> i will kill myself
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: Yeah, something killed the applet, and we don't know what it's labeled in Slovenian.
[08:25] <marko> i remember
[08:25] <marko> i clicked someting
[08:25] <marko> fast
[08:25] <marko> don't know
[08:25] <marko> and then it was like thast:D
[08:26] <K-Ryan> What would I use to take a picture of my desktop?
[08:26] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: No, it's back. See the latest pic. It's just that it's back to black text with no icon.
[08:26] <K-Ryan> Print Scren doesn't seem to be working
[08:26] <jhutchins_lt> marko: go to console, type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop; move your ~.kdm file to a backup, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:26] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: ksnapshot
[08:26] <marko> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop; move your ~.kdm file to a backup, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:26] <marko> i shopuld copy that?
[08:26] <marko> do the console?
[08:26] <marko> or what?;d
[08:26] <vzduch> o0
[08:27] <vzduch> no
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Wait a minute - is that what it looks like now?
[08:27] <vzduch> 1. sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:27] <TeraDyne> vzduch: hold up a sec
[08:27] <vzduch> ah ok
[08:28] <vzduch> I myself was having a problem thinking of the right syntax to move a directory on the console now :)
[08:28] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: like I said. I can see that he's got the taskbar back, but it's black text and no icon, rather than goign with his theme.
[08:28] <vzduch> wtf?
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: He either needs to re-apply the theem, or manually adjust the appearance.
[08:29] <Quakeile> ok, the sysguard started up ok, I have like 10 instances of kicker running atm...
[08:29] <CyberJezus> so what should i do:D
[08:29] <CyberJezus> what would you do TeraDyne ?
[08:29] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: Probably be best to reapply the theme, right?
[08:29] <jhutchins_lt> Meh.
[08:30] <TeraDyne> O_o;
[08:30] <TeraDyne> jesus007: try changing the theme.
[08:31] <jesus007> ok
[08:31] <TeraDyne> and then changing back.
[08:31] <jesus007> did it
[08:31] <jesus007> it's the same
[08:31] <TeraDyne> hold on.
[08:32] <jesus007> ok
[08:33] <jesus007> and when i applied the taskbar there are only programs listed when they are
[08:33] <jesus007> minimized
[08:34] <TeraDyne> jesus007: ok, that problem is easy to fix.
[08:34] <jesus007> but i want the taskbar back the same like it was a day ago:(
[08:34] <TeraDyne> jesus007: right click on the task bar and pick the second option from the bottom
[08:35] <jesus007> TeraDyne, right now i well
[08:35] <jesus007> feel*
[08:35] <jesus007> so fucking idiotic
[08:35] <jesus007> :>
[08:35] <jhutchins_lt> jesus007: Please watch the language.
[08:36] <jesus007> ok sorry
[08:36] <jesus007> TeraDyne, what then?
[08:36] <TeraDyne> jesus007: I'm making pic of which option it is.
[08:36] <jesus007> ok
[08:36] <K-Ryan> CrunchyFerrett: Check today's ICHC
[08:36] <jesus007> i fixed it that the icon
[08:36] <jesus007> is back
[08:36] <Quakeile> difference between kicker and kde-desktop?
[08:38] <TeraDyne> jesus007: the second option above the "icon" option is the "show only when minimize" option. Uncheck that and apps will show up all the time.
[08:39] <jesus007> TeraDyne, thanks
[08:39] <jesus007> it's the same now
[08:39] <jesus007> like it was
[08:39] <jesus007> the icon's are back
[08:39] <jesus007> everything is the same
[08:39] <jesus007> thank you:D
[08:39] <TeraDyne> jesus007: Glad to hear it's back to normal.
[08:40] <Quakeile> it more or less halts at "Loading the desktop" when logging in with nx
[08:41] <Quakeile> I have 4 instances of Kicker, and can't kill one of them
[08:44] <Quakeile> why can't I get my startbutton and panel back?
[08:46] <ardchoille> Quakeile: I can teach you how to have easy access to all your app menus until you get the panel fixed
[08:46] <Quakeile> the problem is the panel tbh...
[08:47] <ardchoille> yes, I know, but I was talking about having your app menus in the desktop right click menu temporarily
[08:47] <Quakeile> 4 instances of kicker, 3 of startkde
[08:49] <jhutchins_lt> Quakeile: Sounds like you've been messing around a bit and have too many instances of your desktop running
[08:49] <Quakeile> yp
[08:50] <jhutchins_lt> Contradictory to earlier advice, I think _this_ is a case for restarting.
[08:50] <ardchoille> or just logging out and killing all kicker and startkde instances
[08:50] <jhutchins_lt> Quakeile: You could drop to console mode (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop), make sure everything is dead, then restart kdm, or just restart the whole box.
[08:51] <Quakeile> whole box is out, uptime: +100
[08:51] <ardchoille> Quakeile: Then probably a good idea to just restart kdm: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:52] <ardchoille> Quakeile: Uptime more than 100 days?
[08:52] <Quakeile> yes
[08:52] <ardchoille> If so, there have been kernel updates that you should be applying
[08:52] <DexterF> !uuid
[08:52] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:52] <ardchoille> keeping the kernel updated > uptime
[08:53] <Quakeile> still freezing at "loading the desktop"
[08:54] <ardchoille> Quakeile: What did you do prior to this happening? using new applets?
[08:54] <Quakeile> no applets
[08:55] <Quakeile> dunno really...
[08:55] <ardchoille> Quakeile: Is there anythng interesting in ~/.xsession-errors  ?
[08:55] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: There are people who have slackware and gentoo boxes with higher uptimes than that. I used to have a Wolvix box with 200+ days uptime. Never did kernel updates, never restarted.
[08:55] <vzduch> there have reportedly been Debian boxes w/ ~500 days' uptime
[08:56] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: Well, there have been kernel exploits and if you refuse to apply the patches, then your box can be exploited.
[08:56] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: Kernel updates aren't as neccessary as windows updates. Most kernel flaws aren't major enough to really requre it. Not unless you've gotten yourself targeted for some reason. Well, AIMO, anyway.
[08:56] <Quakeile> how to kill all kicker instances, all kdesdekstops and force users to logout?
[08:57] <vzduch> sudo killall -9 kicker (no warranty :D)
[08:59] <Quakeile> I've had it for today =( thanks anyway for your effort (tbc...)
[08:59] <DexterF> only 14MB/s disk to disk? a little low, huh?
[08:59] <vzduch> depends on file size and a few other factors
[09:00] <ardchoille> I guess uptime is more important to some than having a working box.
[09:00] <K-Ryan> Uptime is important as long as the box works
[09:01] <DexterF> vzduch: rather big files, from an xfs to an ext3, fast cpu
[09:01] <K-Ryan> So for someone to focus on uptime, it's safe to assume their box works
[09:01] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: Indeed
[09:01] <DexterF> I see mc munching CPU cycles
[09:01] <vzduch> DexterF: don't know XFS.. ext3 to ext3 makes somewhere between 15 and 24 MB/s on my 900 MHz box
[09:02] <TeraDyne> XD
[09:02] <TeraDyne> Whoops, wrong tab.
[09:02] <vzduch> tab?
[09:02] <DexterF> hm. sluggish.
[09:03] <TeraDyne> Konversation uses tabs.
[09:03] <ardchoille> xchat?
[09:03] <vzduch> and I use neither Konv nor XChat :D
[09:03] <TeraDyne> irssi?
[09:04] <vzduch> yep
[09:04] <ardchoille> irssi rocks
[09:04] <vzduch> indeed :)
[09:05] <vzduch> well worth a small learning curve if you're able to IRC w/o the need for an X session
[09:06] <DexterF> so many terminals at a flick of the wrist :)
[09:06] <vzduch> but if all X fails it's good to still be able to get on IRC
[09:09] <K-Ryan> What would I type in irssi to connect to here?
[09:09] <K-Ryan> I tried /connect irc.freenode.org
[09:09] <TeraDyne> "/server", probably.
[09:09] <vzduch> you can start up irssi w/ a connect cmd --> 'irssi -n $yourNick -c irc.freenode.net'
[09:10] <K-Ryan> ambigious option n
[09:10] <vzduch> why ambiguous?
[09:10] <K-Ryan> Dunno
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Whoa I don't know what I did
[09:11] <WraithK23> ????
[09:11] <K-Ryan> But it works
[09:12] <vzduch> o0
[09:12] <TeraDyne> I did it as well. I was Yameneko549.
[09:12] <K-Ryan2> There we go
[09:12] <K-Ryan> It works =)
[09:13] <K-Ryan2> So now I've got IRC and AIM in my terminal
[09:13] <K-Ryan2> I love it
[09:13] <vzduch> for further configuration, read through http://irssi.org/ .. and if you have a reasonably good command of German, you can also read through http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Irssi
[09:14] <K-Ryan2> Configuration as far as?
[09:14] <vzduch> outward appearance, logging, automatic connection to servers and channels etc.
[09:15] <K-Ryan2> Oh, I don't mind that
[09:15] <K-Ryan2> It's just cool and all
[09:15] <K-Ryan2> I love being able to do stuff through the terminal
[09:15] <crash_> How do I unblacklist a driver?
[09:16] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan2: You mentioned that you use a terminal AIM program. What is it called?
[09:16] <K-Ryan2> Naim
[09:17] <K-Ryan2> It's in the repos
[09:17] <K-Ryan2> =)
[09:17] <K-Ryan2> It's a little dodgy, but it's okay
[09:17] <vzduch> http://bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html
[09:18] <K-Ryan2> What's that?
[09:18] <vzduch> "An IRC to other chat networks gateway"
[09:18] <saintm1777> hi all
[09:19] <vzduch> w/ that you can connect to e.g. ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber and Google Talk through your IRC client
[09:19] <saintm1777> just to say I have install the latest kbunutu and I love it...
[09:19] <K-Ryan> Hi saintm1777, glad you like it.
[09:19] <TeraDyne> saintm1777: glad to hear you like it.
[09:19] <saintm1777> I am a brand new Linux convert and I would love to know more about linux and what I can do with it
[09:19] <K-Ryan> vzduch: I've got Naim, I don't really use anything else but I have Kopete so yeah...
[09:20] <saintm1777> I have lived my computer life in windows land and the transition is going to be iffy
[09:20] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: I'm happy naim can use ICQ. It happens to be the one I use most.
[09:20] <saintm1777> can anyone suggest a good starting point?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> saintm1777: Welcome to the other side and where would you like to start with changes?
[09:20] <saintm1777> please...
[09:20] <vzduch> saintm1777: what do you wanna do? :)
[09:21] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: I wasn't sure if you could use anything else with it.
[09:21] <ardchoille> saintm1777: http://www.tldp.org is good
[09:21] <saintm1777> well I have used Dos before so somethings looke familiar in the terminal
[09:21] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: "man naim"
[09:21] <saintm1777> thanks ardchoille
[09:21] <ardchoille> saintm1777: You using kubuntu?
[09:21] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: I wanted it for AIM so I didn't bother =P
[09:21] <saintm1777> yes
[09:22] <saintm1777> thanks for the link, got it in favourites
[09:22] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Hold on to your socks :)
[09:22] <saintm1777> holding tight!! :)
[09:22] <saintm1777> what next?
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Well they're 9 digits long, I don't blame you
[09:23] <ardchoille> saintm1777: http://www.kde-look.org/  http://kubuntuforums.net/  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu  http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php  http://ubuntuforums.org/  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[09:23] <K-Ryan> The only reason I can still log onto mine is because Kopete has it logged =)
[09:23] <saintm1777> whoa!
[09:23] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Bookmark those :)
[09:23] <saintm1777> all of them?
[09:23] <ardchoille> saintm1777: It's good to look them over but not really needed on a daily basis
[09:24] <K-Ryan> It's just somewhere to start if you are looking to do something and you need help with it
[09:24] <crowbar> saintm1777: focus on http://ubuntuforums.org I'd say.
[09:24] <saintm1777> okay, be back in a minute
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Otherwise you come in here type !<topic you need help with>
[09:24] <K-Ryan> And ubotu will help, like this
[09:24] <K-Ryan> !drivers
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Errr...
[09:24] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[09:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <djdarkman_> I`ve made an XGL session for Compiz, but it has no sutdown button in the logout menu, is it possible to make an XGL session have a shutdown button in the logout menu
[09:24] <djdarkman_> ?
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Yeeeaaaaah
[09:26] <_Iamda> is there a place to get IRC commands?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> !cli | I
[09:26] <saintm1777> shoo...all done...now do I just spend the rest of the night reading?
[09:26] <ubotu> I: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:26] <gnomefreak> oops
[09:26] <gnomefreak> !cli | Indice
[09:26] <ubotu> Indice: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:26] <K-Ryan> saintm1777: Well what do you want to do?
[09:27] <ardchoille> saintm1777: If you have questions, this is the best place to ask. Otherwise, those bookmarks are good.. better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.
[09:27] <saintm1777> everything...or is that too much...
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Start with specific things
[09:27] <saintm1777> okay for starters I am use to installing software with autoexecute files or zip files/rar etc
[09:28] <saintm1777> I have no clue how to do this tar thing
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Same thing for the most part
[09:28] <saintm1777> I can extract a tar but not install the program...
[09:28] <K-Ryan> That's because you probably aren't going to install it
[09:28] <ardchoille> saintm1777: The software repositories for ubuntu are huge, I've never had to "do the tar thing". Open adept and have a look around.
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Is it the source for something?
[09:29] <TeraDyne> !apps
[09:29] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:29] <K-Ryan> ardchoille: Thanks for bringing the repos up, I'm sure he has no idea what they are.
[09:29] <TeraDyne> that's not what I wanted
[09:29] <saintm1777> okay
[09:29] <saintm1777> thanks
[09:29] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: Still a good post
[09:29] <ardchoille> !repos | saintm1777
[09:29] <ubotu> saintm1777: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:29] <K-Ryan> saintm1777: In Kubuntu we use repositories filled with tons of stuff so we don't have to search the net for stuff
[09:30] <K-Ryan> We find the package name and install from either a command or finding it in Adept or Synaptic
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Now as for a .tar.gz
[09:30] <saintm1777> I have see adept
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Chances are that's a source code that needs to be compiled
[09:30] <K-Ryan> SO you wouldn't even need to extract it
[09:30] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Word of advice.. do not use automatix
[09:30] <K-Ryan> It's not advice
[09:30] <K-Ryan> It's a rule
[09:31] <saintm1777> I have install some things but at times it has Locked
[09:31] <ardchoille> !sudo | saintm1777
[09:31] <ubotu> saintm1777: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:31] <JonnyRo> Can anyone recommend a good way to permenantly wipe a hard disk in ubuntu?
[09:31] <saintm1777> I have searched forums and found a unlocking sequence thanks to another helpful soul
[09:31] <ardchoille> JohnFlux2: There's an app called 'wipe' and it's in the repos.
[09:32] <ardchoille> !wipe
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <K-Ryan> !info wipe
[09:32] <ubotu> wipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.21-2 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 132 kB
[09:32] <ardchoille> That's it
[09:32] <ardchoille> thanks K-Ryan
[09:32] <K-Ryan> ;)
[09:32] <JonnyRo> Much thanks
[09:32] <saintm1777> why the need for a lock?
[09:32] <saintm1777> if I login in is that not enough
[09:32] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Read up on that sudo link, it explains some things you need to know.
[09:33] <saintm1777> okay ...thanks...be back now
[09:34] <vzduch> that's gonna be a tasty dinner :)
[09:34] <TeraDyne> vzduch: ?
[09:35] <vzduch> simple (can food) but nonetheless tasty
[09:35] <vzduch> Italian tomato-noodle soup w/ added smoked sausage
[09:35] <sa> hi everyone
[09:35] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[09:36] <sa> i have a problem with opening adept installer
[09:36] <K-Ryan> !aptfix
[09:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Try that
[09:36] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: haha, you're fast on those bot triggers
[09:36] <sa> have been working on the problem since 3 hours back
[09:36] <TeraDyne> O_O; Quick.
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Some of them, yeah
[09:36] <K-Ryan> I've been around here long enough, so yeah
[09:36] <sa> K-Ryan: Yes, Adept crashed on me :)
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Have you tried that before?
[09:37] <sa> K-Ryan: no
[09:37] <crash_> SMB have a file size limit or something?
[09:37] <K-Ryan> That's probably the problem then
[09:37] <sa> K-Ryan: I tried exiting through the pn -elf command
[09:37] <TeraDyne> XD I just tried to play an ogg with mpg123....
[09:37] <sa> with the P-code
[09:38] <ardchoille> saintm1777: When you get a chance, sign up at http://ubuntuforums.org  that is one awesome site.
[09:38] <K-Ryan> I haven't done that before so I'm not sure what to do if that was the problem
[09:38] <K-Ryan> But I would try the sudo fuser......
[09:39] <sa> K-Ryan: Ok
[09:39] <sa> K-Ryan: let me try that command
[09:40] <vzduch> TeraDyne: for Ogg there's ogg123 (or ogg321, or both, I don't remember :P)
[09:41] <ardchoille> Poor guy, just converted to Linux and what do we do? we send him out for a week's worth of reading, lol
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Speak for yourself, you did it =P
[09:42] <ardchoille> But those url's will benefit him in the long run
[09:43] <K-Ryan> sa: Any luck?
[09:44] <sa> K-Ryan: havnt tried yet hehe. I am helping out a friend with his problem :)
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Oh alright, just curious ;)
[09:44] <sa> K-Ryan: hehe, will try asap
[09:46] <Evolution2> is there a way to access linux from windows with read/write capabilities?
[09:46] <SlimeyPete> yes
[09:46] <SlimeyPete> www.fs-driver.org
[09:46] <SlimeyPete> Evolution2: ^^
[09:46] <Evolution2> SlimeyPete: where can i get it
[09:46] <vzduch> *omfg*
[09:47] <SlimeyPete> (that's assuming you're using kubuntu's default ext3 filesystem)
[09:47] <Evolution2> yes
[09:47] <Evolution2> it is
[09:48] <Evolution2> SlimeyPete: can you give me a link or something please
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> Evolution2: like I said... www.fs-driver.org
[09:48] <Evolution2> oops
[09:48] <Evolution2> iam sorry
[09:48] <Evolution2> i didnt see
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> :)
[09:50] <Evolution2> SlimeyPete:: how can i use it
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> Evolution2: make sure you read the last paragraph of the Ext3 section of the FAQ, btw
[09:50] <Evolution2> i dont understand
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> Evolution2: just download, install and configure (see instructions on the website). It's very easy.
[09:50] <slowfire> Can I run kubuntu on live-cd, if I just want to try it out?
[09:50] <vzduch> slowfire: that's what the live CD is for :)
[09:50] <dromer> hmm, I'm trying to chroot into this disk, but I keep getting: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied  what's up with that?
[09:51] <Evolution2> sudo maybe?
[09:51] <dromer> nope
[09:51] <slowfire> vzduch, just as I thought.
[09:51] <dromer> tried it with sudo -i also
[09:51] <crowbar> dromer: if you are stacking commands sudo might not distribute across them ..
[09:51] <SlimeyPete> Evolution2: no, not sudo. it's for Windows.
[09:51] <slowfire> vzduch, just like with ubuntu
[09:52] <dromer> crowbar: I'm not, I'm just doing sudo chroot /media/disk/
[09:52] <vzduch> I prefer Kubuntu mainly because I got so used to the KDE kioslaves :)
[09:52] <_Carlo_> hi, is it normal under kubuntu that konsole transparency doesn't work?:P it works fine with yakuake
[09:52] <SlimeyPete> Evolution2: it will allow you to access linux from windows, like you asked. You have to install it in Windows, then you will see your Linux drives in My Computer.
[09:53] <Evolution2> ah
[09:53] <Evolution2> ok
[09:53] <vzduch> after a reboot, that is ;)
[09:53] <Evolution2> sweet
[09:53] <Evolution2> it worked
[09:53] <Evolution2> thank you
[09:53] <SlimeyPete> no problem :)
[09:53] <slowfire> vzduch, Im not used to linux at all, but I like the names of the programs *beeing a bit silly*
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Silly?
[09:55] <philippe__> ALguem me ajuda com caixas de som ?
[09:55] <K-Ryan> !es | philippe__
[09:55] <ubotu> philippe__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:56] <TeraDyne> _Carlo_: What do you mean by "not working"?
[09:56] <slowfire> K-Ryan, yes, preferring something based on names is not logical to me, not when it comes to computers...
[09:57] <K-Ryan> No I mean, how are they silly?
[09:57] <TeraDyne> _Carlo_: I have console transparent right now. I can see my background through my irssi window.
[09:57] <TeraDyne> Konsole*
[09:57] <slowfire> K-Ryan, I am silly not the programs
[09:57] <K-Ryan> You lost me, but okay =)
[09:58] <vzduch> !pt | philippe__
[09:59] <ubotu> philippe__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:59] <K-Ryan> I thought it was Spanish =/
[09:59] <philippe__> vlws
[10:00] <K-Ryan> Sorry philippe__
[10:00] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: I thought so as well.
[10:02] <TeraDyne> what's a good cli music player? besides the usual ogg123 and mpg123, of course.
[10:03] <Daisuke_Ido> playcms i think it was
[10:03] <vzduch> TeraDyne: try mpd, I know someone who uses it all the time
[10:03] <binks> dudes when i run scan -a0 scan |tee channels.conf i get a error saying >> tee: /channels.conf: Permission denied
[10:04] <TeraDyne> vzduch: Ok, I will.
[10:04] <binks> any ideas
[10:04] <Evolution2> sudo?
[10:04] <K-Ryan> Anyone ever run Feather Linux?
[10:05] <vzduch> ROOT detected!
[10:05] <Ray-> heh.
[10:05] <TeraDyne> XD
[10:05] <Ray-> hack it ;p
[10:05] <Evolution2> i like roads myself
[10:05] <Evolution2> idk about routes....
[10:05] <TeraDyne> Quick, Tuxman. To the Sudomobile
[10:05] <sa> K-Ryan: It worked :)
[10:06] <K-Ryan> sa: Glad I could help ;)
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> root___: i'm going to tell you this for your own good: running as root is really REALLY stupid.  thank you for listening.
[10:06] <Evolution2> wtf
[10:06] <K-Ryan> Oh that's why he said that, I didn't notice it
[10:06] <juif> hi, i have installed kubuntu (a recent one) wich i then upgraded to feisty then ubuntu-studio, i used the default partitioning scheme. i seriously messed up my install and have files i need to keep and can not backup in my /home dir, is there any way to re-install an ubuntu while keeping my /home dir with that default partitioning scheme ? seems to be all one big partition
[10:07] <Karti> Is there a way I can test my 5.1 sound system with a SoundBlaster card so that I can hear each speaker individually? ** and I don't mean put my ear against each one!!**
[10:07] <sa> K-Ryan: Thank you :)
[10:08] <K-Ryan> Karti: That _would_ work
[10:08] <pvandewyngaerde> Karti: speaker-test
[10:08] <K-Ryan> sa: You're welcome
[10:08] <sa> K-Ryan: Just dont know what i did with that command, haha
[10:09] <K-Ryan> sa: Me either, I just know that's what you have to do =P
[10:09] <sa> K-Ryan: haha, ok
[10:09] <sa> :)
[10:09] <sa> K-Ryan: thanks
[10:09] <TeraDyne> vzduch: mpd is a music player daemon, not a player
[10:09] <K-Ryan> You're welcome, feel free to ask about anything else you might need
[10:09] <Karti> pvandewyngaerde: It just seems to play noise from them all but says Front Left and repeats
[10:10] <Ray-> hello, I got 2 PC's one is running XP and the other is running Kubuntu is there a way to make internet sharing on it? I got a hub not a router
[10:11] <juif> hehe thats waht im doing right now, Ray, using firestarter. but i have two network cards in my kubuntu machine
[10:11] <Ray-> juif: my internet connection is on the XP
[10:11] <juif> oh
[10:11] <Ray-> I installed analogex proxy
[10:11] <computer> I NEED HELP SOMEONE HELP
[10:11] <computer> can i pm someone/
[10:11] <juif> stick a second network card in and "bridge" them :)
[10:12] <Ray-> tested it on other XP machine it worked well but on my kubuntu it aint working
[10:12] <dromer> wth, my flashplayer broke after I rebooted? I can't play a youtube-vid past 1 second ..
[10:12] <TeraDyne> computer: just ask your question in the channel
[10:12] <pvandewyngaerde> Karti: yes, its called pink noise i think, use commandline options to test your specific settings: "man speakertest"
[10:12] <Ray-> dont know why :\
[10:12] <Ray-> juif: not available:P
[10:12] <juif> ok :) sorry
[10:12] <dromer> gah, and my rebot didn't fix the error on chroot
[10:12] <K-Ryan> Psst
[10:12] <Karti> pvandewyngaerde: I have just selected ALSA and getting it to restart on that
[10:12] <K-Ryan> What would I use to burn an ISO to a CD?
[10:13] <computer> Teradyne, I have a problem with ndiswrapper, Whenever I reboot the computer I'm forced to have to reinstall the driver for my netgear wg311v3.
[10:13] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: K3B?
[10:13] <K-Ryan> Oh there it is, thanks
[10:13] <TeraDyne> computer: no idea. maybe someone else will know.
[10:14] <pvandewyngaerde> do you load the ndiswrapper kernel module at boot ?
[10:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> ...
[10:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> I still havent gotten ndiswrapper to work.
[10:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> I gave up.
[10:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> instead I went to watch porn :(
[10:15] <K-Ryan> Aww, I'm sorry to hear that CrunchyFerrett
[10:15] <K-Ryan> Wait, CrunchyFerrett2?
[10:15] <CrunchyFerrett2> <---Laptop running Kubuntu
[10:15] <CrunchyFerrett> <---- Desktop runnign Vista
[10:15] <K-Ryan> Ah ha
[10:15] <K-Ryan> What color does my name show up as?
[10:15] <sa> K-Ryan: Thank you, I will. Wish I could say the same but I am a linux noob so wont be of much help. hehe
[10:15] <CrunchyFerrett2> in which app>?
[10:15] <CrunchyFerrett2> Here it is... Reddish
[10:16] <K-Ryan> sa: It's okay, everyone starts somewhere
[10:16] <vzduch> K-Ryan: depends on the IRC client.. here it's red
[10:16] <CrunchyFerrett> Here its grey
[10:16] <intelikey> K-Ryan your nick is prsed by your irc client
[10:16] <K-Ryan> Yeah, I meant in Konversation
[10:16] <CrunchyFerrett2> Red in Konvo
[10:16] <vzduch> irssi ftw!
[10:17] <TeraDyne> Still need a good cli music player besides mpg123 and ogg123.
[10:17] <intelikey> sox
[10:17] <K-Ryan> Guys I'm trying to burn an ISO to a CD and well K3B is giving no progress
[10:17] <K-Ryan> Going on 3 minutes now
[10:17] <Karti> pvandewyngaerde: Manythanks - It was speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6
[10:18] <computer_> !wireless
[10:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:18] <jhutchins_lt> computer: Perhaps you never wrote the module aliases to the config file?
[10:18] <K-Ryan> Never mind
[10:18] <K-Ryan> Now I have an actual error
[10:18] <computer_> jhutschin_It, How would I do that?
[10:18] <TeraDyne> I think I'll just stick to mpg123 and ogg123. Well, just ogg123 if I have my way.
[10:18] <CrunchyFerrett2> sudo modprobe -l
[10:18] <jhutchins_lt> computer_: It's one of the commands for ndiswrapper.  Let's see if I can find it faster than you can...
[10:18] <CrunchyFerrett2> crap, wrong windo
[10:19] <computer_> jhuchinsJ_It, Ok ;)
[10:19] <intelikey> TeraDyne http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37889   use with sox.  :)
[10:19] <vzduch> TeraDyne: http://www.musicpd.org/ <-- mpd && libmpdclient
[10:19] <jhutchins_lt> computer_: ndiswrapper -m
[10:20] <computer_> jhutchins_It, tried that... and that's where i get the error..
[10:20] <jhutchins_lt> computer_: Which error?
[10:20] <TeraDyne> intelikey: nifty. thanks
[10:20] <computer_> WifiDocs/Device/Netgear WG311 v3
[10:20] <computer_> 
[10:20] <computer_> Configuring the Netgear WG311 v3
[10:20] <computer_> Getting Started
[10:20] <computer_> This how-to was produced using a Feisty Fawn live-cd session. There may be differences in the procedure with earlier or later versions.
[10:20] <Ray-> !fstab
[10:20] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:20] <CrunchyFerrett2> hm... I see no reference to ndiswrapper when I do a modprobe -l
[10:20] <Ray-> hmm
[10:20] <CrunchyFerrett2> Think that might be part of the isssue?
[10:20] <TeraDyne> vzduch: I will look into mpd when I set up my server. Thanks
[10:21] <computer_> omg I did not mean to paste that...
[10:21] <CrunchyFerrett2> !blacklist
[10:21] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[10:21] <jhutchins_lt> computer: Yeah, remember to use pastebin if you have more than a line or two.
[10:21] <K-Ryan> Apparantly you did computer_ because it asks you if you want to paste it =P
[10:22] <jhutchins_lt> Hey, I've been known to have unexpected content in the pastebuffer.
[10:22] <computer_> K-Ryan, it wasw a tutorial on using ndiswrapper... apparently I copied that :P
[10:22] <Ray-> I forgot how to make the kubuntu see the windows partitions
[10:22] <Ray-> its about fstab right?
[10:22] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Konversation doesn't ask if you want to paste.
[10:22] <jhutchins_lt> Ray-: Yep.
[10:22] <Ray-> there were a script ...
[10:22] <computer_> module configuration already contains alias directive
[10:22] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: It does when I try to paste in something that's big
[10:22] <jhutchins_lt> !ntfs | Ray-
[10:22] <ubotu> Ray-: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:22] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: never has for me.
[10:22] <computer_> jhuchins_It, this is the error: module configuration already contains alias directive
[10:22] <K-Ryan> Go figure
[10:22] <K-Ryan> Maybe I enabled something
[10:22] <Ray-> jhutchins_lt: Thank you.
[10:23] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Or I disabled something.
[10:23] <K-Ryan> Perhaps
[10:23] <jhutchins_lt> computer_: Do you get error messages at boot?
[10:23] <computer_> jhutchins_It, no because, when i reboot the wireless card is no longer working...
[10:24] <K-Ryan> Has anyone else had trouble using K3B to burn an ISO?
[10:24] <jhutchins_lt> Sorry, lap has been pre-empted by a cat.
[10:24] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Ah, found the option. Warning Dialogs > "Warning on pasting large portions of text". I have it off.
[10:24] <K-Ryan> That ;)
[10:25] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: did you do an md5sum check on the CD iso?
[10:25] <K-Ryan> It does it automatically
[10:25] <reldruh> hello. I set up a friend with kubuntu edgy a while back and yesterday she asked me to help her upgrade to feisty. I used the update utility and it seemed to be going well but after it finished there was an error message saying 'changes not commited' It said that either the updates didn't go well or commiting the changes would break compatibility (I think, I didn't write it down). Now her computer won't boot into linux. It hang
[10:25] <reldruh> l and it hangs on 'setting up console font and keymap' when I try booting the recovery kernel. Booting into windows works just fine, though. Has anybody else run into this problem?
[10:25] <CrunchyFerrett2> ok. I removed a blacklisted entry from modprobe. How does one go about forcing modprobe to reload the driver?
[10:26] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Never noticed that. Cool. now I don't have to do it from the terminal.
[10:26] <K-Ryan> Yeah....
[10:26] <K-Ryan> How do you do it in the terminal?
[10:26] <TeraDyne> "md5sum <file>"
[10:26] <jhutchins_lt> CrunchyFerrett2:  sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe <module>
[10:27] <K-Ryan> ryan@ryan-desktop:~$ md5sum feather-0.7.5.iso
[10:27] <K-Ryan> e36104401cb47fb5bc0c1cf3994e067d  feather-0.7.5.iso
[10:27] <CrunchyFerrett2> What does the "depmod" do?
[10:27] <K-Ryan> What does that mean?
[10:27] <computer_> I think im going to reinstall ndiswrapper...
[10:28] <pvandewyngaerde> CrunchyFerrett2:  you can type "whatis depmod" on console, works for every command
[10:28] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: that's the md5sum of the file. compare the alphanumeric string to the one they have on the site to see if it matches.
[10:28] <CrunchyFerrett> ahem. Yeah. I knew that. I swear I did
[10:28] <TeraDyne> or ftp server, if it has an "MD5SUM" file.
[10:29] <K-Ryan> Identical
[10:29] <computer_> never mind...
[10:29] <computer_> >_>
[10:29] <K-Ryan> Doesn't solve my problem though =(
[10:29] <K-Ryan> !burning
[10:29] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:31] <CrunchyFerrett2> sigh
[10:31] <Daisuke_Ido> trying to figure out how to take a series of screenshots from a video and stitch them together, similar to what media player classic does in windows...  so far i can get single snapshots, but that's about it.
[10:31] <K-Ryan> So umm, K3B just doesn't seem to want to burn this ISO
[10:32] <CrunchyFerrett2> So. Using the bcm43xx drivers, Kubuntu will recongnize the card as eth2. Running ndiswrapper, Kubuntu doesnt even seem to realize it exists.
[10:32] <grul> !ati
[10:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <K-Ryan> !K3B
[10:32] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: dual layer dvd by chance?\
[10:33] <K-Ryan> No, just a CD
[10:33] <CrunchyFerrett2> hm.
[10:33] <K-Ryan> It's ticking me off
[10:33] <CrunchyFerrett2> the DVD ISO I just burned wont read under windows.
[10:33] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Bad media?  Dying drive?  I/O problem with the location of the .iso file?
[10:33] <K-Ryan> the md5sum matches up
[10:33] <K-Ryan> The drive is fine I'm pretty sure
[10:34] <K-Ryan> And I have the .iso in my home folder.
[10:34] <jhutchins_lt> CrunchyFerrett2: You can do an md5sum of the actual CD to verify the burn:  md5sum /dev/cdrw
[10:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> I did.
[10:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> It checked out fine
[10:34] <jhutchins_lt> Bad drive.
[10:34] <K-Ryan> Him or me?
[10:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> Hell Kubunto even looks at it and says "YAY! DVD MOVIE!! DO YOU WANNA WATCH!!!?"
[10:35] <CrunchyFerrett2> Windows just looks at me like I'm stupid.
[10:35] <K-Ryan> Okay, K3b is trying to write it with SAO at 24x speed
[10:35] <CrunchyFerrett2> Of course, I dont have any DVD playign software installed on here...
[10:36] <K-Ryan> It's going to say "24x speed not supported, switching to 4x" and then say "Try TAO"
[10:36] <CrunchyFerrett2> !dvd
[10:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:36] <K-Ryan> Then it's going to tell me to try DAO when I use that
[10:36] <K-Ryan> I can't win
[10:36] <K-Ryan> And of course it feels like telling me those things after 3+ minutes
[10:36] <K-Ryan> each
[10:37] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Why would you do session?  Try selecting disk-at-once to begin with.
[10:37] <K-Ryan> Selecting what?
[10:37] <jhutchins_lt> k3b gives you LOTS of progress and diagnostic feedback.
[10:38] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: http://www.cdrfaq.org/
[10:39] <reldruh> will the regular kubuntu cd (not the alternate one) work as a recovery cd if a computer won't boot up?
[10:40] <K-Ryan> jhutchins_lt: Like trying to find a needle in a hay stack
[10:40] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: You will know a lot by the time you find the needle.
[10:40] <K-Ryan> I don't need or want to know a lot
[10:40] <K-Ryan> I just want this to burn
[10:40] <K-Ryan> =)
[10:40] <killer101> hello
[10:40] <K-Ryan> Hi killer101
[10:40] <killer101> hi
[10:40] <jhutchins_lt> Ooo.  Wrong thing to say to me, "I don't want to learn".  That's windows talk.
[10:40] <killer101> everithing kool
[10:41] <K-Ryan> It's not that I don't want to learn
[10:41] <killer101> look K-Ryan
[10:41] <K-Ryan> I don't want to learn everything
[10:41] <killer101> can you help me pleaze???
[10:41] <K-Ryan> killer101: Ask your question and if someone in the room can help, they usually will
[10:41] <killer101> thanx dude
[10:41] <killer101> i'm new
[10:42] <killer101> sory for the inconvinience
[10:42] <K-Ryan> We all were at one point or another
[10:42] <K-Ryan> Ask away
[10:42] <CrunchyFerrett2> I swear to god, the ubuntu documentation site lies to me
[10:42] <killer101> can sombody help me installing amsn on linux???
[10:42] <K-Ryan> !amsn
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[10:42] <K-Ryan> !info amsn
[10:42] <vzduch> killer101: sudo aptitude install amsn
[10:42] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[10:42] <Karti> how about apt-get install amsn in a Konsole window?
[10:43] <Ray-> I'm getting a warning when I do mount -a
[10:43] <killer101> thanx
[10:43] <killer101> :D
[10:43] <killer101> but i've tried that shot
[10:43] <killer101> and nothing
[10:43] <killer101> i will just look around
[10:43] <Ray-> it says no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:43] <vzduch> killer101: activate your Universe and Multiverse repos
[10:43] <killer101> to many time without using linux
[10:43] <Ray-> what is going on ?:/
[10:43] <Karti> try searching for its name with apt-cache search amsn
[10:43] <K-Ryan> !universe
[10:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:43] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[10:44] <intelikey> i need a random number generator for /bin/sh    any clue-by-four ?
[10:44] <JamesGUK> evening.... anyone know a way to hibernate kubuntu and then boot Windows, then reboot and come back to the hibernated kubuntu?
[10:44] <vzduch> intelikey: /dev/urandom? *gg*
[10:44] <K-Ryan> jamesGUK: When you turn off Kubuntu it does the equivalent of Windows's hibernating
[10:44] <intelikey> vzduch that's not numeric
[10:44] <K-Ryan> If you have apps open and turn off then turn back on, they will still be open
[10:45] <Karti> killer101: I tried it with sudo apt-get install amsn and it worked fine
[10:45] <killer101> thanx karti
[10:45] <killer101> i will try back again
[10:45] <K-Ryan> jhutchins_lt: What was that disk-at-once you spoke of?
[10:45] <Karti> no probs
[10:45] <TeraDyne> Karti: that because you had the universe repository enabled.
[10:45] <JamesGUK> K-Ryan: almost but not all apps work --- I also want to avoid the bootup time
[10:45] <intelikey> anyone ?
[10:45] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: dao
[10:45] <Karti> TeraDyne: True..
[10:45] <K-Ryan> JamesGUK: Can't
[10:45] <coreymon77> K-Ryan: there is an actual hibernate though
[10:46] <pwilson_> Does anyone have experience with Virtualbox?
[10:46] <jhutchins_lt> There's suspend-to-disk.
[10:46] <K-Ryan> coreymon77: Does it actually hibernate like in Windows?
[10:46] <pwilson_> could use some help if so.
[10:46] <K-Ryan> For some reason I thought it didn't
[10:46] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: there is an actual suspend-to-disk hibernate
[10:46] <CrunchyFerrett2> 03:46:03 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/scd0<
[10:46] <CrunchyFerrett2> 03:46:02 PM: xine: found input plugin : DVD Navigator
[10:46] <TeraDyne> !anyone | pwilson_
[10:46] <ubotu> pwilson_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:46] <CrunchyFerrett2> wtf
[10:46] <coreymon77> K-Ryan: yes
[10:46] <pwilson_> lol
[10:46] <pwilson_> Alright.
[10:46] <K-Ryan> Oh it does! Well there you go
[10:46] <coreymon77> K-Ryan: i use it all the time
[10:47] <pwilson_> Im running XP sp2 in a vbox, I've mounted the guest additions in the vbox, but cannot access shred folders.
[10:48] <pwilson_> when I type net use x:\\vboxsvr\share\ in the windows cmd window, I get a server not found error.
[10:48] <JamesGUK> coreymon77: but can I then use grub to boot another OS?  Most hibernates skip the grub process and just reload
[10:48] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: yes
[10:48] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: its exactly lie windows hibernate
[10:49] <JamesGUK> coreymon77: sounds like what I am looking for .... ta
[10:49] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: wait a sec
[10:49] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: after a while youll get a black screen
[10:49] <JamesGUK> yes?
[10:49] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: move your mouse and it will ask you for your password
[10:49] <JamesGUK> ah just like when you suspend to memory?
[10:49] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: yes
[10:50] <JamesGUK> brill thanks
[10:50] <JamesGUK> hopefully it will work on this laptop
[10:50] <coreymon77> you using feisty?
[10:50] <sa> K-Ryan: hmm, i cannot install anything new anymore
[10:51] <K-Ryan> sa: Strange...
[10:51] <sa> K-Ryan: yeah
[10:51] <K-Ryan> What's it say when you try to?
[10:51] <pwilson_> anyone else have the no sound issue whtn going from kernel 2.6.20-15 to 20-16?
[10:51] <sa> K-Ryan: problem downloading packages
[10:51] <vzduch> pwilson_: no sound problems here
[10:52] <JamesGUK> coreymon77: if thats 7.04 then yes
[10:52] <pwilson_> I'm just sticking to the 20-15 kernel until I've got it figured out.
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> grr
[10:52] <sa> K-Ryan: there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit  would break packages
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> still frustrated about this screencap issue.  i'm amazed vlc hasn't added something like that
[10:52] <K-Ryan> Strange
[10:52] <sa> K-Ryan: funny
[10:52] <K-Ryan> I've never had that
[10:52] <sa> K-Ryan: yeah
[10:52] <sa> K-Ryan: i will look into it tomorrow
[10:53] <sa> K-Ryan: have worked too much on the computer today
[10:53] <sa> hehe
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> sa: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:53] <K-Ryan> jhutchins_lt: I picked DAO and it says SAO up top, and I'm still getting no progress
[10:54] <pvandewyngaerde> disc at once, session at once, both are good
[10:54] <sa> K-Ryan: it says could not get lock /var...
[10:54] <K-Ryan> pvandewyngaerde: Neither work though...
[10:54] <sa> unable to lock the administration directory (/var...) is another program using it?
[10:54] <K-Ryan> You have Adept or Synaptic open?
[10:55] <sa> yes
[10:55] <sa> hold on
[10:55] <sa> let me try again
[10:55] <K-Ryan> It's been over 3 minutes, no progress on the .iso at all
[10:55] <CrunchyFerrett2> oh crap nuggets
[10:55] <CrunchyFerrett2> DVD encryption crap
[10:55] <sa> K-Ryan: hmm
[10:55] <sa> it is installing now
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Okay here we go
[10:56] <sa> K-Ryan: what is the -f install command?
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Medium or burner do not support writing at 24x speed
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Switching burn speed down to 4x
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Performing optimum power calibration
[10:56] <K-Ryan> sending CUE sheet
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Unable to send CUE sheet
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Sometimes using TAO writing mode solves this issue.
[10:56] <pvandewyngaerde> track at once
[10:57] <K-Ryan> Trying TAO...
[10:57] <K-Ryan> Even though it's just one iso
[10:57] <K-Ryan> sa: Not sure
[10:58] <pvandewyngaerde>  -f, --fix-broken
[10:58] <K-Ryan> Switching to 4x, performing OPC, starting disc write, unable to fixate the disc, the disk might still be readable, Try DAO writing mode
[10:58] <K-Ryan> I told you, I can't win
[10:58] <pvandewyngaerde> is your recorder broken ?
[10:58] <K-Ryan> I don't think so
[10:59] <pvandewyngaerde> maybe your recorder doesn't like the media
[10:59] <jhutchins_lt> That or there's something wrong with your k3b installation.
[10:59] <K-Ryan> Try for reinstall?
[10:59] <jhutchins_lt> pvandewyngaerde: Also possible.
[10:59] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Be sure to use --purge.
[11:00] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get remove k3b --purge?
[11:00] <pvandewyngaerde> K-Ryan: are you Kate Ryan? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Ryan
[11:00] <K-Ryan> ?
[11:00] <K-Ryan> Nooo, not me
[11:01] <K-Ryan> I just threw a K in front of my name because everything KDE does
[11:01] <pvandewyngaerde> not anymore
[11:01] <coreymon77> ya
[11:01] <K-Ryan> Alright alright
[11:01] <coreymon77> dolphin
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> no, sometimes they throw it at the end
[11:01] <K-Ryan> I'm not very creative
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok, juk
[11:02] <K-Ryan> I get it
[11:02] <pvandewyngaerde> gwenview
[11:02] <K-Ryan> "Ark"
[11:02] <CrunchyFerrett2> So, can Kubuntu not read commercial DVD movies or something?
[11:02] <coreymon77> or they stick a qt in there
[11:02] <coreymon77> qtparted
[11:02] <K-Ryan> !DVD | CrunchyFerrett2
[11:02] <ubotu> CrunchyFerrett2: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:02] <Dannilion> it can if you download some stuff that I believe is illegal in the IS
[11:02] <Dannilion> *US
[11:02] <coreymon77> how
[11:02] <sa> K-Ryan: hehehe
[11:02] <sa> thankx
[11:03] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[11:03] <vzduch> K-Ryan, CrunchyFerrett2: libdvdcss2 is in the Medibuntu repos
[11:03] <john86> does ubuntu work on a a8v deluxe?
[11:03] <K-Ryan> I just figured I'd give him that
[11:03] <Dannilion> If I were to KDE my name, I think I'd rather be Dannilionk than KDannilion, as that is just sillly
[11:03] <Dannilion> *silly
[11:03] <coreymon77> how would that be illegal
[11:04] <coreymon77> if you legally bought and won the dvd
[11:04] <john86> does ubuntu work on a8v deluxe?
[11:04] <coreymon77> own*
[11:04] <Dannilion> apparently cracking the encryption on it is illegal in the USA
[11:04] <K-Ryan> coremon77: It should be that simple shouldn't it?
[11:04] <HymnToLife> compilerwriter, because the techonology used to crypt it is patented
[11:04] <sa> K-Ryan: it worked
[11:04] <sa> K-Ryan: haha
[11:04] <HymnToLife> thus you must pay for it if you want to decrypt DVDs
[11:05] <sa> K-Ryan: thanks...again :)
[11:05] <K-Ryan> No problem
[11:05] <Dannilion> john86: try it and see :p
[11:05] <Dannilion> though why you're asking if Ubuntu works in the Kubuntu channel I don't know
[11:06] <K-Ryan> Alright, trying my newly installed k3b
[11:06] <intelikey> americans aren't completely certin of laws either,   and betting on how anything will go in an americian coart is vain.
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> Dannilion: because it's the same farking base?
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> the only difference is the DE
[11:07] <coreymon77> Dannilion: cracking what encryption,. who cares what you use to paly the dvd
[11:08] <Dannilion> yes, I know that :) I was just wondering why they were in the Kubuntu channel
[11:08] <coreymon77> as long as you are not copying and redistributing it
[11:08] <SillyZ> sorry for all the connect/disconnects, just setting up Konversation here
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: the media conglomerates that take in a tiny amount for every dvd player and dvd software package out there
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> they care
[11:08] <intelikey> coreymon77 it should be that simple,  but unfortunately it's not always.
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> they suck
[11:08] <K-Ryan> 2 minute mark and K3b has given me nothing...
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> but they care
[11:09] <BluesKaj> K-Ryan, what are you trying to burn ?
[11:09] <K-Ryan> A Feather Linux .iso
[11:09] <FroggyTheGreat> Heya.  I'm trying to do an "empty trash" via the panel applet, and it's telling me I don't have the right permissions.  Any ideas?
[11:09] <SillyZ> dd if=featherlinux.iso of=/dev/dvdburner    done
[11:09] <pvandewyngaerde> K-Ryan:  do you have the correct rights as a user to burn media ?
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> I'd do a "chown" but I can't find the location via command prompt.
[11:10] <K-Ryan> I'm the only user
[11:10] <K-Ryan> And it's the same account from when I installed Kubuntu
[11:10] <K-Ryan> I'm going to try to burn it from my other computer
[11:10] <K-Ryan> !trash
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <K-Ryan> It doesn't seem to be
[11:11] <kopeteroxer> is there any way to hide scrollbar of message windows in kopete?
[11:11] <intelikey> s/is/isn't/
[11:11] <kopeteroxer> i would like to use mouse navigation instead
[11:12] <pvandewyngaerde> FroggyTheGreat: what location are you looking for ?
[11:12] <FroggyTheGreat> I want to empty my trash, and it's telling me I don't have permissions to do that.
[11:13] <jhutchins> FroggyTheGreat: Have you been running gui apps using sudo?
[11:13] <FroggyTheGreat> By nature of Kubuntu, yes.
[11:13] <kopeteroxer> maybe y havent permissions to delete the files in trash
[11:13] <kopeteroxer> s/y/you
[11:14] <FroggyTheGreat> And how might I go about rectifying that?
[11:14] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[11:14] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:14] <Daisuke_Ido> FroggyTheGreat: NOT by nature of kubuntu.  gui apps should be run with kdesu, not sudo.
[11:14] <intelikey> sudo rm -r ~/Trash       or what ever the name is
[11:14] <FroggyTheGreat> If I could find the trash folder or whatever via command line, I could sudo chown it back, but I can't find it.
[11:14] <xst> Apparently there has been posted a patch for this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134774 for a long time now. So why isn't it implemented? At least, the kubuntu distro could use the patch
[11:15] <vzduch> sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[11:15] <kopeteroxer> ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[11:15] <SillyZ> look in .local/share/Trash
[11:15] <jhutchins> FroggyTheGreat: I would do sudo chown -R <your user> ./kde
[11:15] <SillyZ> nm
[11:15] <intelikey> sudo rm -r ~/.local
[11:15] <kopeteroxer> ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[11:15] <jhutchins> FroggyTheGreat: And ./local too.
[11:16] <SillyZ> FroggyTheGreat: Id goto your /home/username dir and do a sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername * personally
[11:16] <vzduch> intelikey: I'm sure you don't want to remove the whole ~/.local/ dir
[11:16] <intelikey> vzduch why ?
[11:16] <vzduch> jhutchins: and you should give the correct syntax if you give commands to newbies :)
[11:17] <vzduch> intelikey: because there is a dir ~/.local/share/apps/, do you know what's in there?
[11:17] <vzduch> you better check beforehand
[11:17] <JamesGUK> bummer dont have enough swap space to hibernate
[11:17] <intelikey> vzduch you have that dir ???
[11:18] <intelikey> vzduch it has never existed on this system
[11:18] <vzduch> intelikey: no, I don't, I messed something up.. but I have an application dir in there
[11:18] <vzduch> ~/.local/share/audacious/
[11:18] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: try restarting normally
[11:19] <intelikey> heh it's a local temp dir      is it not?
[11:19] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: and then try using hibernate
[11:19] <jhutchins> vzduch: What was incorrect?  Did I goof?  I'm just not sure chown -R works on hidden folders, or I'd say chown ~.
[11:19] <vzduch> jhutchins: there's no such thing as ./local, e.g.
[11:20] <jhutchins> More than just emptying the trash, he needs to fix his permissions.
[11:20] <JamesGUK> coreymon77: this is using hibernate  (suspend to ram works fine)
[11:20] <jhutchins> vzduch: There is on mine.
[11:20] <intelikey> vzduch is on mine too
[11:20] <intelikey> but i made it long ago
[11:20] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: hibernate meaning suspend to disc
[11:20] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: did suspend to disk work
[11:20] <coreymon77> ?
[11:21] <jhutchins> Possibly .local is a hangover from an earlier kde/kubuntu.
[11:21] <jhutchins> vzduch: You will see that my original suggestion was chown -R .kde/
[11:21] <K-Ryan> !burning
[11:21] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:21] <JamesGUK> get
[11:21] <JamesGUK> [ 2401.264000]  swsusp: free swap pages: 113244
[11:21] <JamesGUK> [ 2401.264000]  swsusp: Not enough free swap
[11:21] <vzduch> jhutchins: no, it wasn't ;)
[11:22] <vzduch> [23:15:38]  < jhutchins> FroggyTheGreat: I would do sudo chown -R <your user> ./kde
[11:22] <SillyZ> q: nvidia-glx vs nvidia-glx-new   on a nvidia go 7800 / 256mb card, any advantage to using -new?
[11:22] <vzduch> look closely :>
[11:22] <jhutchins> Ach.
[11:22] <JamesGUK> probably the problem is I upgraded my RAM after installing 7.04 so the swap size is now too small
[11:22] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: okay, do a regular restart
[11:22] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: then try it
[11:22] <jhutchins> vzduch: Well, at least it won't hurt anything.
[11:22] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: i get the same message myself sometimes
[11:22] <intelikey> :)
[11:22] <coreymon77> JamesGUK: just restart normally, then it should work
[11:23] <JamesGUK> ok will try
[11:23] <jhutchins> vzduch: I left a character out of a find ... -exec... command once and deleted all the websites from a server.
[11:23] <vzduch> jhutchins: well, you're right there :)
[11:23] <vzduch> jhutchins: hrhr
[11:23] <jhutchins> Have I mentioned that it's a good idea to make backups before even talking to me?
[11:24] <vzduch> jhutchins: why that?
[11:24] <venik> does anyone know whether I can copy a HOME folder from an external disk onto my internal disk?
[11:24] <venik> I have a backup of my home folder there
[11:24] <vzduch> venik: why not?
[11:24] <jhutchins> vzduch: Experience is proportional to data destroyed.  I have a lot of experience.
[11:25] <venik> If changes have been made in the meantime...
[11:25] <venik> I am worried about dependencies and stuff like that
[11:25] <CrunchyFerrett2> sigh. Lets try this again.
[11:25] <vzduch> venik: if you have important stuff from your current /home, copy it over to your backup beforehand
[11:25] <CrunchyFerrett2> !dvd
[11:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:26] <K-Ryan> Bbl, toying around with Feather Linux
[11:26] <venik> supposed I installed my Kubuntu 6 months ago, made a backup of the home folder on the external drive, crshed my system, reinstalled.
[11:28] <venik> can I restore my settings by restoring the backup from the home folder on the external drive?
[11:28] <SillyZ> should be able to venik as long as its the same version of kde I would think
[11:28] <intelikey> most   but not system wide tweeks venik
[11:28] <jhutchins> venik: Mostly.
[11:28] <venik> ;-(
[11:29] <SillyZ> I always keep my system setup with the OS on /dev/sda1 then 2 is swap, and /dev/sda3 = /home
[11:29] <venik> I tried to use SimpleBackup, but that is not a real program
[11:29] <intelikey> tar   man tar
[11:30] <SillyZ> Ive tried Acronis (for windows) and it did backup a reiserfs filesystem, dunno about the restore process tho, never tried it
[11:30] <K-Ryan> Hey umm, I put the disc with the .iso in my CD Drive, restarted
[11:30] <SillyZ> tar cvfj filename.tar.bz2 /path/to/include/*
[11:30] <K-Ryan> And it just went to the GRUB boot loader after waiting a few seconds longer than usual
[11:30] <intelikey> SillyZ no
[11:31] <intelikey> the j has to be before the f
[11:31] <K-Ryan> Might I have done something wrong?
[11:31] <intelikey> else the filename is j
[11:31] <bodzio_> hello
[11:31] <SillyZ> Ive never had a problem with f before j , and its worked fine
[11:31] <bodzio_> who have ATI Radeon 8500?
[11:31] <SillyZ> j = bzip2 option
[11:31] <K-Ryan> !ati
[11:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <venik> I have a question about sending files with GAIM
[11:31] <venik> It does not seem to work
[11:32] <intelikey> SillyZ yes but j == filename   and fj blah will write to j
[11:32] <SillyZ> I think your wrong, but ok Ill give it a go anyway
[11:32] <bodzio_> yes, but I have question - is possible to install ati 8500 on kubuntu 7.04? I heard that are some problems with xorg and this is impossible, is this true?
[11:33] <SillyZ> intelikey: man tar ... your wrong
[11:33] <intelikey> SillyZ unless they have changed the way that tar handels it's options in the last year or two then it still writes to whatever follows f     i'll look into the change log
[11:34] <SillyZ> tar cvfj test.tar.bz2 path/*  created test.tar.bz2   with the correct files in it
[11:34] <SillyZ> <bows before intellikey> at least we can agree to disagree :D
[11:35] <intelikey> SillyZ then it is changed.
[11:35] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$~]  tar -cfj test.tar.bz2 testing
[11:35] <intelikey> tar: test.tar.bz2: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[11:35] <intelikey> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:35] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$~] 
[11:35] <jhutchins> Um, -j is bzip as opposed to -z which is gzip.
[11:35] <intelikey> SillyZ the change is within the last year
[11:36] <intelikey> SillyZ sorry for being behind.
[11:36] <SillyZ> dunno when it was changed but thats how ive always used it .... either way it works, j before f or f before j
[11:36] <intelikey> as i said it changed within the last year.
[11:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: I think your error is that you didn't specify what to add to the file.
[11:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: for -cf you need tar -cf file input
[11:37] <intelikey> jhutchins no i specified a file.
[11:37] <jhutchins> k.
[11:37] <intelikey> jhutchins the file is "testing"
[11:38] <SillyZ> brb libhal update
[11:38] <ardchoille> And you no longer need the "-", as tar won't do anything unless you give it at least one option
[11:38] <jhutchins> Interesting.
[11:39] <jhutchins> -cjf will not create the file, but will write to it.
[11:39] <intelikey> ardchoille the dash is just good form   i know it is not required
[11:39] <sidney> alguem a?
[11:39] <intelikey> jhutchins ?
[11:39] <ardchoille> tar cjf file.tar.bz2 file  is what I always use
[11:40] <jhutchins> intelikey: run -cjf, then run -cfj.
[11:40] <ardchoille> -cjf creates a file
[11:41] <jhutchins> cfj doesn't return an error, but doesn't appear to do anything.
[11:41] <venik> gaim users, anyone?
[11:42] <jhutchins> cfj appears to add test.tar.bz2 to file j.
[11:42] <ardchoille> both -cfj and -cjf work here
[11:43] <jhutchins> I had always thought the order didn't matter too, but it does appear to.
[11:43] <ardchoille> Never mattered on all my *buntu releases
[11:43] <ardchoille> *shrugs*
[11:43] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37893   here argue with the shell all you want.
[11:43] <ardchoille> I use tar for my main backup scheme
[11:44] <intelikey> all i know is how tar works on dapper.  i don't know what all they may or may not have changed,
[11:44] <ardchoille> Well, using Kubuntu Feisty here and both work
[11:45] <ardchoille> May have changed since dapper
[11:45] <intelikey> ardchoille we already established that it must have.  :)
[11:46] <hilary> hello everyone
[11:46] <K-Ryan> Hi hilary
[11:47] <ardchoille> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37894
[11:47] <Daisuke_Ido> good luck on that run for president!
[11:47] <intelikey>  /
[11:48] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: ...
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ...sorry
[11:49] <intelikey> so i write my own init system
[11:49] <Graham> intelikey: You copied that from the ##linux channel.
[11:49] <fyrmedic> Anyone know how to ban people in kopete using the yahoo protocol?
[11:50] <intelikey> Graham not really.   but i wrote it in there.
[11:50] <Graham> fyrmedic: Right-click block?
[11:50] <Graham> intelikey: :P I'm just messing with you.
[11:50] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: make that 1000 times
[11:50] <coreymon77> :P
[11:50] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, it was supposed to be 1000, i typoed >_>
[11:50] <fyrmedic> Graham; Unfortunately that option isn't there.
[11:51] <Daisuke_Ido> that's my story at least
[11:51] <Graham> fyrmedic: That's well unlucky.
[11:51] <ardchoille> krecipes is quite nice.
[11:51] <Graham> Try typing /ignore in the window.
[11:51] <ardchoille> imports meal master recipe databases
[11:51] <Graham> Or ask then nicely not to talk to you anymore.
[11:51] <intelikey> "hey, that's my lie and i'll stand by it until it changes"  *clinton*
[11:52] <fyrmedic> Graham; no kidding
[11:52] <Graham> Who is it? Pass me their address and I'll stalk them.
[11:53] <ardchoille> intelikey: hahahaha
[11:53] <vzduch> anyone know a freely available DVD iso >4 GB out of his/her head?
[11:53] <ardchoille> vzduch: the Fedora 7 ISO ?
[11:53] <twosouls82> hi all :)
[11:54] <fyrmedic> Graham; Thats funny. That is what he is doing to my daughter.
[11:54] <ardchoille> vzduch: nm, not > 4gb
[11:54] <vzduch> ardchoille: afair just under 4 GB.. I burned that a while ago
[11:54] <ardchoille> vzduch: Ah, ok
[11:55] <Graham> Your daughter? BTW hey twosouls82.
[11:55] <intelikey> vzduch if it's just a test file make one.   dd if=/dev/random of=testfile.iso bs=1024 count=5048570
[11:55] <saintm1777> watched movie on gxine and read about sudo. This Kubuntu is cool!
[11:55] <saintm1777> Thanks ardchoille!
[11:55] <ardchoille> He's hooked! :)
[11:55] <ardchoille> saintm1777: You're welcome :)
[11:56] <saintm1777> There are some serious video editing software in here
[11:56] <fyrmedic> yeah
[11:56] <saintm1777> for FREE!
[11:56] <saintm1777> I am wiping my desktop of windows as we speak...
[11:56] <twosouls82> as in beer?
[11:56] <ardchoille> saintm1777: You'll find that most software for Linux is free
[11:56] <jussi01> saintm1777: nice
[11:56] <saintm1777> loving it man...LOVING IT!
[11:57] <Graham> fyrmedic: I'm in, what's the little shits address?
[11:57] <saintm1777> you guys are the bees knees!
[11:57] <saintm1777> Thank you so much.
[11:57] <ardchoille> saintm1777: I've been using Linux since 2001 and ubuntu since 2004, recently switched to Kubuntu. This is, IMHO, the best distro on the planet.
[11:57] <Graham> saintm1777: I'm guessing you're single.
[11:57] <saintm1777> Chat with you soon
[11:57] <Graham> Just messing with you, that's awesome news :D
[11:57] <saintm1777> no. married with 3 year old
[11:58] <saintm1777> why?
[11:58] <Graham> It's a joke, nevermind :)
[11:58] <fyrmedic> Graham; ap4mojo@yahoo.com
[11:58] <saintm1777> I know. You think I should get a life! lol
[11:58] <Graham> I'll make you proud.
[11:58] <fyrmedic> Let him have it
[11:58] <saintm1777> Just excited man
[11:58] <saintm1777> I am off to see windows off.
[11:58] <Graham> Good for you.
[11:58] <saintm1777> and mess around with linux and apps
[11:59] <saintm1777> take care. Speak to you guys soon! (and girls!)
[11:59] <Graham> Right click on his name in the main menu and select stealth mode I think.
[11:59] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Come back and idle in here, I have learned tons of stuff just sitting and watching
[11:59] <saintm1777> cool
[12:00] <Graham> fyrmedic: Do you know any of his personal info?
[12:00] <saintm1777> maybe I will just leave this running for a while...
[12:00] <Graham> If I say soming like "hey dan" he'll shit bricks.
[12:00] <intelikey> Graham does /whois not work ?
[12:00] <jhutchins> Do we need to clean up the channel here?
[12:00] <Graham> intelikey: This isn't in IRC.
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy | Everyone
[12:00] <ubotu> Everyone: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:01] <fyrmedic> Graham; no I don't know anything about him other than he is an obnoxious turd.
[12:01] <saintm1777> thank goodness my three year old cann't read
[12:01] <saintm1777> lol
[12:02] <carlo> hi, is there a place where can i take kubuntu logo?
[12:02] <vzduch> ?
[12:02] <intelikey> me too   ?
[12:03] <saintm1777> running Kubuntu on a dell d640, 1.8Mhz laptop by the way.  which ran like poo on windows but seems to have found new life this OS
[12:03] <Graham> He's not accepted me yet.
[12:03] <intelikey> you could take it to the part.  or to a movie
[12:03] <etalli> carlo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[12:03] <carlo> etalli: thanks
[12:03] <saintm1777> My desktop machine should fly once its wiped
[12:03] <etalli> carlo: no problem
[12:03] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Just think, if you get tired of kde, you can install a window manager like fluxbox - nice and fast
[12:04] <intelikey> !wm
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <saintm1777> fluxbox? just give me a minute to check that out...
[12:04] <intelikey> !gui
[12:04] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[12:05] <fyrmedic> !/whois
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whois - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <intelikey> /whois fyrmedic
[12:05] <saintm1777> should I register with kde apps?
[12:06] <saintm1777> stupid question
[12:06] <saintm1777> sorry
[12:06] <_Iamda> I'm running Kubuntu 7.04... can I leave the computer on and turn off the monitor?
[12:07] <ardchoille> _Iamda: yes
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Sure
[12:07] <etalli> _lamda:  yes
[12:07] <ardchoille> Many folks leave their computers on for months and longer
[12:07] <_Iamda> even all night?
[12:07] <K-Ryan> For months and longer =)
[12:07] <etalli> I've been running straight for 1 month, 23 days
[12:08] <_Iamda> with monitor off...
[12:08] <vzduch> CPU[AMD Athlon clocked at 900.072 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686]   Up[-2days-]   Mem[-152.0/757.5MB-]   HDD[-440GB(18%used)-]   Procs[-105-]   Client[Shell wrapper] 
[12:08] <etalli> yeah, the machine goes to standby, and waits.  Although start turning it off if you get rediculous power bills
[12:08] <CrunchyFerrett2> ...
[12:09] <CrunchyFerrett2> Why would dvd::rip think it was going at 200fps?
[12:09] <CrunchyFerrett2> Ive never seen anything rip that fast...
[12:09] <_Iamda> reason I ask at night the monitor light disturbs the wife
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> CrunchyFerrett2: it probably was
[12:10] <etalli> _lamda:  having the monitor off is even better than leaving it on.  Better for the environment, your wallet, your sleep, etc.
[12:10] <_Iamda> thank you...
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's just copying the VOB to the hard drive.
[12:10] <CrunchyFerrett2> awww it borked out at the very end
[12:10] <etalli> no problem
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> encoding is going to take some time, however.
[12:10] <CrunchyFerrett2> encoding can take as long as it wants.
[12:10] <CrunchyFerrett2> The rip needs to be done soon though.
[12:11] <CrunchyFerrett2> and the frellnig thing keeps bailing out at the last 1000 frames or so.
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> you just copying dvd to dvd?
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> or you goign to encode to mpeg-4?
[12:11] <CrunchyFerrett2> Gonna encode to DiVX, as soon as I can figure out how to do so in Linux
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> dvd::rip :)
[12:11] <CrunchyFerrett2> atm I just want to rip it
[12:12] <grishnak> heh .. im trying to figure out how to play divX or any compressed video format ..
[12:12] <CrunchyFerrett2> !divx
[12:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <etalli> CrunchyFerret, that was my bot call
[12:12] <CrunchyFerrett2> say waht now?
[12:12] <etalli> you beat me to it
[12:13] <CrunchyFerrett2> oh lol. I was doing it for me actually
[12:13] <psycose> Hi, i try to build an Ada binding to Qt4.2 on Ubuntu feisty i386 up to date (with KDE) the problem is a the end of the build process , there are lot's of unreferenced symbol like  undefined reference to `QScriptEngine::evaluate(QString const&)' anyt ips thanks ?
[12:13] <etalli> oh, :)
[12:13] <saintm1777> just seen tabs in fluxbox. cool
[12:13] <etalli> I generally just /msg ubotu divx
[12:14] <jordan_> Hello... I have a small problem. When I run Adept or the "Add/Remove Programs" in Kubuntu, I get this error that says something like: "Cannot run while another instance is running already. Please check to make sure another adept or aptitude instance is not running". And then the program closes. I am curious if anyone can help?
[12:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> Damnit
[12:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> Failed again
[12:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> at 5s remaining.
[12:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> What the heck is going on?
[12:14] <CrunchyFerrett2> Scratched disc maybe?
[12:14] <saintm1777> anyone know how to get automatic updates to download and install.  Used Adept but will fetch, don't know if they install. do I just need to install the ones I want?
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> css protection?
[12:15] <CrunchyFerrett2> Could be. But I installed that libdvdcss2 thing
[12:15] <etalli> jordan_  You have to make sure that you are not already running Adept, aptitude, apt-get, adept updater, or anything that uses apt
[12:15] <hilary> Does anyone know whether they can get a Nintendo DS usb dongle working on a Linux computer? Nintendo say the dongles only for Windows XP but I've heard some people have got it working for Linux too. Anyone know anything about it? I'd prefer it if i didnt have to buy a new dongle or a wireless router :P
[12:15] <ardchoille> saintm1777: You should download and install *ALL* updates that are available. You'll only get updates for software you have installed. This is one nice feature of a package manager.
[12:16] <saintm1777> great.
[12:16] <saintm1777> thks
[12:16] <intelikey> /exec -o echo "`whoami` `pwd` #and i could say iptables -L  hehhe"
[12:16] <jhutchins> !aptfix | jordan_
[12:16] <ubotu> jordan_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:16] <saintm1777> starting install on desktop pc. I feel like a kid at Christmas
[12:17] <ardchoille> intelikey: oh noes!
[12:17] <intelikey> and some times (albeit not too often)  the updates will break things that are working....
[12:17] <saintm1777> I used that ubotu...worked the charm
[12:17] <jhutchins> !aptfix | jordan_
[12:17] <ubotu> jordan_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:17] <jhutchins> Oops, sorry.
[12:17] <CrunchyFerrett2> hang on a tic...
[12:17] <saintm1777> still dont know what it means but just copied and pasted.
[12:17] <jhutchins> CrunchyFerrett2: Dirty lenz?
[12:17] <CrunchyFerrett2> Im going to need to have xvid and divx and whatnot installed, arent I?
[12:18] <jordan_> Okay, I am working on the Konsole command now... I will respond back in a moment.
[12:18] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[12:18] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:18] <jhutchins> !bot
[12:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:18] <saintm1777> I know the sudo part now
[12:18] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[12:18] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:19] <ardchoille> saintm1777: Be careful with sudo, it allows you to work as root and you can damage your system if you make a mistake. It's good to make a backup of a file before editing with sudo just to be safe.
[12:19] <saintm1777> okay. thanks.
[12:19] <saintm1777> once the pc is installed I will muck about on laptop
[12:19] <CrunchyFerrett2> !codec
[12:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:20] <ardchoille> saintm1777: You think it's cool now, wait til you learn how to write your own shell scripts ;)
[12:20] <jhutchins> CrunchyFerrett2: I don't think divx problems are going to manefest late in a process.
[12:20] <CrunchyFerrett2> well..
[12:20] <intelikey> howto unlock an account when passwd is not installed ?
[12:20] <CrunchyFerrett2> the vobs only missing the last 1000 frames.
[12:20] <kernco> I just installed compiz fusion on Kubuntu 7.04 and when I run "compiz --replace" it leaves me without window decorations
[12:20] <jhutchins> intelikey: Reinstall - the system won't run without passwd.
[12:20] <CrunchyFerrett2> So Im gonna see if I can encode the file without those last frames, see what happens
[12:20] <jhutchins> CrunchyFerrett2: Ah, I thought we were still burning DVD's.
[12:20] <intelikey> jhutchins has been for months i don't know why it "won't"  :)
[12:21] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yet you claim passwd is not installed?
[12:21] <intelikey> it's not
[12:21] <jhutchins> why not just install it then?
[12:21] <saintm1777> installing java support on firefox crashes on me and locks database...and solution...happens after it asks me to agree to licence.
[12:21] <intelikey> it depends on things i don't want installed
[12:22] <intelikey> but can't one simply edit /etc/shadow and change to a * or something ?
[12:22] <jhutchins> intelikey: vipw then?
[12:22] <etalli> Sysinfo for 'etalli-laptop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz at 798 MHz (1597 bogomips), HD: 3/52GB, RAM: 709/1003MB, 102 proc's, 1.43h up
[12:22] <intelikey> vipw
[12:22] <intelikey> -root: vipw: command not found
[12:23] <intelikey> probably comes with passwd   ...
[12:23] <ardchoille> intelikey: a locked account would have a "!"
[12:23] <intelikey> yeah and one with no paswd would have *   correct ?
[12:24] <saintm1777> burnt my first cd on linux today.  VCD with k3b.  had to install number of libs but worked fine afterward
[12:24] <ardchoille> no, you would need to replace ! with a md5sum'd pass iirc
[12:24] <jhutchins> intelikey: Heh.  Part of the passwd package.
[12:24] <ardchoille> intelikey: Take a look at the root entry in /etc/shadow
[12:25] <intelikey> what about it ardchoille ?
[12:25] <intelikey> it's just like all of the entries in there
[12:25] <intelikey> list:!:13634:0:99999:7:::
[12:25] <intelikey> root:!:13634:0:99999:7:::
[12:25] <ardchoille> right, now look at your user entry; the ! is replaced with a md5sum'd pass
[12:25] <intelikey> same
[12:25] <ardchoille> not here
[12:26] <ardchoille> must be a diff in dapper
[12:26] <intelikey> no differance in mine and root and all the rest.
[12:26] <CrunchyFerrett2> oh lord no
[12:26] <CrunchyFerrett2> Im no where near the burning stage yet
[12:26] <intelikey> ardchoille no, it's just that there are "NO" passwords
[12:26] <CrunchyFerrett2> stupid Hollywood and their content protection
[12:26] <jhutchins> vipw doesn't work on shadow anyway.
[12:26] <intelikey> ardchoille all accounts are locked and all passwords are deleted.
[12:27] <ardchoille> intelikey: Ah, ok. well an unlocked accout would be:  user:md5sum_here:7:::    I believe
[12:27] <intelikey> hmmmm ok.
[12:28] <ardchoille> no, that's wrong: username:md5sum_here:13669:0:99999:7:::
[12:28] <ardchoille> that's how mine is set up
[12:28] <K-Ryan> Hey if burning a Feather Linux iso didn't work before, do you think I would be able to burn Knoppix to a CD?
[12:28] <K-Ryan> Probably not, right?
[12:28] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: Did you check the md5sum before burning?
[12:28] <K-Ryan> I haven't finished downloading it yet
[12:28] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: Right.
[12:28] <ardchoille> could have been a corrupt download
[12:28] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Passed md5sum.
[12:29] <jhutchins> ardchoille: His burner is not getting along with his media, it may be toast.
[12:29] <K-Ryan> Feather Linux did
[12:29] <psycose> Building an Qt application on Ubuntu feisty, the following reference are undefinied any tips ? thanks QScriptEngine::~QScriptEngine ;QScriptValue::~QScriptValue() ; QScriptValue::setProperty ; QScriptEngine::globalObject() thanks
[12:29] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Ah, ok
[12:29] <K-Ryan> My brother is stubborn and won't get off Maple Story to let me use his computer to burn this so I'm just giving it all I've got on here
[12:29] <K-Ryan> I swear all he does is play games -.-
[12:30] <vzduch> stupid game junkies..
[12:30] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: New burner is like $35US.
[12:31] <intelikey> L-gamers
[12:31] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: This model has the CD and DVD drives _riveted_ in
[12:31] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: I have an electric drill...
[12:31] <K-Ryan> Well, they're screwed into a very small cage that's riveted together
[12:31] <ardchoille> that sucks out loud
[12:31] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Maple Story... ugh... I perfer something along the lines of "The World"
[12:31] <K-Ryan> So I can unscrew them and shift them back and forth
[12:31] <CrunchyFerrett2> sigh
[12:31] <K-Ryan> Not that that does anything for me...
[12:32] <CrunchyFerrett2> I knew better than to make this mistake
[12:32] <K-Ryan> I need a new computer but don't have the money for one
[12:32] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: You're probably missing something.
[12:32] <CrunchyFerrett2> Tried to encode a file with a codec that wasnt isntalled.
[12:32] <CrunchyFerrett2> *BONK*
[12:32] <TeraDyne> CrunchyFerrett2: XD Nice one.
[12:32] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: I've been all over this thing, there's no way I'm missing anything
[12:32] <jhutchins> CrunchyFerrett2: I've found avidemux2 and tovid very useful in authoring DVD's.
[12:32] <CrunchyFerrett2> Not trying to author a DVD
[12:32] <K-Ryan> Although if anyone has an okay computer they no longer use and feels like giving it to me, I'll pay shipping =)
[12:32] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: My philosophy has always been if somebody else can build it, I can take it apart and re-build it.
[12:33] <CrunchyFerrett2> trying to rip one to my library, so I can stick the DVD itself someplace safe
[12:33] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: I'm sure I could, I just lack the materials to rebuild it =)
[12:33] <CrunchyFerrett2> If I could only figure out why the rip process keeps failing at the last 5seconds, I'd be happier than a pig in ****
[12:33] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: It's possible that you need to do something like remove the front panel from the case first.
[12:34] <K-Ryan> Can't really do that
[12:34] <K-Ryan> This has a side panel that comes off
[12:34] <K-Ryan> That's it
[12:34] <jhutchins> Bigger hammer.
[12:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> ew
[12:34] <K-Ryan> ...
[12:34] <TeraDyne> XD
[12:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> 18.5 FPS encode rate.
[12:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> I have this laptop
[12:34] <CrunchyFerrett2> *hate
[12:35] <psycose> hi, using KDE with Ubuntu Feisty (i386, up to date KDE 3.5.6) lib Qt 3 & 4, i got lot's of undefined reference, all from QtScript module any tips thanks , here it is http://rafb.net/p/4PXPgA75.html
[12:35] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: I'll bet there's a way to get that front panel off.
[12:35] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: CD drives are usually meant to be servicible.
[12:35] <K-Ryan> Not this
[12:35] <K-Ryan> It's stuck in there until I rip the casing apart
[12:36] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: You pay shipping both ways, I'll replace the drive for what it costs me.
[12:36] <K-Ryan> What's the case going to look like when I get it back? =)
[12:37] <vzduch> o0
[12:37] <K-Ryan> "Case? What case? It didn't come with a case?"
[12:37] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[12:37] <TeraDyne> XD
[12:37] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: As good or better.  I usually charge $75 - $150/hr.
[12:37] <intelikey> hehhe      "hey, that's my lie and i'll stand by it until it changes"  *clinton*