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| === Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 02 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 03 Jul 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 04 Jul 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 05 Jul 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Jul 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | ||
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| coNP | @now | 01:16 |
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| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: July 02 2007, 11:16:53 - Next meeting: Desktop Team in 1 hour 43 minutes | 01:16 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Desktop Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 03 Jul 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 04 Jul 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 05 Jul 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Jul 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | ||
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| seb128 | dholbach: hey ;) | 03:00 |
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| dholbach | hiya seb128 | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | lonely meeting :P | 03:01 |
| seb128 | anybody here for the desktop team meeting? ;) | 03:01 |
| man-di | @now | 03:01 |
| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: July 02 2007, 13:01:43 - Current meeting: Desktop Team | 03:01 |
| seb128 | hey Hobbsee | 03:01 |
| dholbach | welcome everybody for a desktop team meeting - who do we have here? | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 03:01 |
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| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting is our meeting agenda | 03:02 |
| dholbach | and it's very short today | 03:02 |
| dholbach | we want to figure out what's on our todo lists for the next two weeks | 03:03 |
| dholbach | there'll be 2.19.5 next week | 03:03 |
| seb128 | indeed | 03:03 |
| coNP | hey everyone | 03:03 |
| dholbach | anything else on anybody's todo list which we should highlight? | 03:03 |
| dholbach | hey coNP | 03:04 |
| dholbach | welcome coNP everybody - Aron's been doing amazing work on the team in the last weeks | 03:04 |
| seb128 | we can also discuss things we can change in the team organisation if you have some suggestions | 03:04 |
| dholbach | looks like he got the lion share of gnome 2.19.4 done :-) | 03:04 |
| seb128 | coNP: good work! | 03:04 |
| coNP | thanks dholbach, seb128 :) | 03:05 |
| seb128 | do we have anybody who would be interested to take special care of a package? | 03:06 |
| seb128 | like being the "maintainer" or one member of a team of people looking after it? | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | i'm slightly worried about why you're discussing plans for edgy on that agenda... | 03:06 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: 'Old Agendas' | 03:06 |
| dholbach | siti has been taking care of ekiga and friends in the last time, which has worked out really really well | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | oh, point | 03:07 |
| dholbach | siti: is there any new ekiga release planned anytime soon? | 03:07 |
| siti | I think 3.0 is meant to be released in time for the next gnome | 03:07 |
| seb128 | nice | 03:07 |
| dholbach | woah - great | 03:07 |
| siti | it's UI is much better1 | 03:07 |
| siti | !* | 03:07 |
| seb128 | siti: is ekiga uptodate in gutsy at the moment ? | 03:07 |
| siti | it's the latest stable | 03:08 |
| dholbach | that'll give us some time to get it tested properly for gutsy release | 03:08 |
| seb128 | good :) | 03:08 |
| seb128 | siti: thanks for working on it! | 03:08 |
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| Hobbsee | seb128: if you're having maintainers on the gnome side, who is a volunteer, what does that mean about other people being able to upload to it, if the maintainer is inactive? | 03:09 |
| seb128 | there is a bunch of untriaged bugs on launchpad for ekiga apparently | 03:09 |
| siti | yeah, most of the bugs are due to the old ekiga, so I've been lazy... | 03:09 |
| siti | almost everyone fixes there problems by updating to 2.0.9 | 03:10 |
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| seb128 | Hobbsee: yeah, we don't have any lock, that's just it's easier to know that some people are looking after a package | 03:10 |
| dholbach | so setting to needsinfo and asking for confirmation with gutsy would help most of them? | 03:10 |
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| siti | I think so | 03:10 |
| seb128 | good | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: so you dotn have a policy for what happens if someone was doing the regular releases, and then drops off the face of the planet? | 03:11 |
| dholbach | ok, maybe we should add that as a 'todo task' to our page | 03:11 |
| seb128 | should we clean this list on wednesday for the bug day? | 03:11 |
| seb128 | that seems a reasonable goal | 03:11 |
| dholbach | yeah, it sounds like a very good idea | 03:11 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: no, we have a wiki page where we list work to be done and claim things we are working on | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: fair enough | 03:11 |
| seb128 | we usually update if there is no reaction from the usual maintainer in the next days after a new version | 03:12 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| Hobbsee | interesting, thanks for letting me butt in :) | 03:12 |
| seb128 | np :) | 03:12 |
| seb128 | siti: would you be interested to hand on #ubuntu-bugs on wednesday for the bug day and help cleaning the ekiga list? | 03:13 |
| siti | I don't know what I am doing on wednesday, but I can start going through the bugs soon | 03:14 |
| seb128 | k, so let's note this list on the weekly TODO | 03:15 |
| dholbach | rock and roll | 03:15 |
| seb128 | we will try to give an hand and get it cleaned ;) | 03:15 |
| dholbach | is the TODO page working OK for everybody? | 03:15 |
| siti | thanks | 03:15 |
| seb128 | another small goal somebody would like to add? | 03:15 |
| seb128 | so we have | 03:16 |
| seb128 | - update GNOME to 2.19.5 | 03:16 |
| seb128 | - clean the ekiga list of bugs | 03:16 |
| dholbach | - update remaining tarballs | 03:16 |
| dholbach | should we add 'regular bug tasks' like "reviewing all bugs wit patches" or "cleaning old needsinfo bugs" or other bug lists on DesktopTeam/Bugs? | 03:17 |
| dholbach | of course add: | 03:18 |
| dholbach | - get exciting new stuff packaged | 03:18 |
| dholbach | ;-) | 03:18 |
| seb128 | I think we should have a short list of goals for between now and the next meeting | 03:18 |
| seb128 | and a regular TODO for tasks like cleaning needsinfo, etc | 03:18 |
| dholbach | ok, I'll add a "regular tasks" section to the page | 03:19 |
| dholbach | maybe we should do the "weekly goals" thing as a wiki include | 03:19 |
| dholbach | that way we could have it on the frontpage and on todo | 03:19 |
| dholbach | and in other places, where like to plug it | 03:19 |
| seb128 | looks good | 03:19 |
| seb128 | you are the wiki master, if you know how to do it ... :) | 03:20 |
| dholbach | alrighty, I'll do that | 03:20 |
| seb128 | thanks | 03:20 |
| dholbach | cheers | 03:20 |
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| seb128 | anybody else with ideas for a better organisation, things you would like to work on, things you thing that should be done for gutsy? | 03:20 |
| dholbach | hiya fernando | 03:20 |
| seb128 | hey fernando | 03:20 |
| fernando | hey dholbach | 03:21 |
| fernando | hey seb128 | 03:21 |
| === coNP does not know the exact schedule of the upstream Gnome release - packaging - sync - merge cycles: is it happening continously towards 2.20 / 7.10 or are there any changes in the meantime? | ||
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| seb128 | coNP: there is a new GNOME unstable every 2 weeks usually | 03:23 |
| seb128 | we merge with Debian on start of the new cycle usually and then only when there is changes we want | 03:23 |
| seb128 | right now we are mostly done with merges for gutsy | 03:24 |
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| seb128 | anything else? | 03:26 |
| seb128 | anybody with some cools idea or things he wants to work on? ;) | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: replace gnome with kde! :P | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | ahem. | 03:27 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: you are already working on that, aren't you? :p | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: erm...cant confirm or deny, on the basis that it may incriminate me. | 03:27 |
| seb128 | doesn't seem to be working though ;) | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: you just wait for KDE 4.... | 03:27 |
| seb128 | you just wait for GNOME 3 :p | 03:27 |
| fernando | fight | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | now that has no ETA at all :P | 03:28 |
| seb128 | ;) | 03:28 |
| === Hobbsee gets out the lightning bolts... :P | ||
| seb128 | k, look like not a lot of other things to add | 03:28 |
| seb128 | dholbach: ? | 03:28 |
| seb128 | the meeting was short but we didn't have one for some time | 03:28 |
| dholbach | no, not from me - I'd just like us to make an effort to get all the gnome-ish stuff reviewed | 03:29 |
| seb128 | we have some goals for the coming weeks and we will try to have a better list for next one | 03:29 |
| dholbach | I know that REVU is not perfect, but it's what's used mostly these days | 03:29 |
| seb128 | would be nice if people could add easy goals, or make list of bugs which can be tackled in a bug day like the ekiga one | 03:29 |
| seb128 | so we can keep going with easy tasks weekly | 03:29 |
| seb128 | and show that things are done | 03:30 |
| seb128 | dholbach: right | 03:30 |
| dholbach | I can make a list of those and add it to the weekly todo, if you like | 03:30 |
| dholbach | link them from there | 03:30 |
| dholbach | also for this weeks goals, I'll add all the remaining tarballs, if you don't mind | 03:30 |
| seb128 | dholbach: no problem | 03:31 |
| dholbach | ok super | 03:31 |
| coNP | and s/June/July/ :) | 03:31 |
| seb128 | should we have a page where tasks for the week stay | 03:31 |
| dholbach | I'll let you know once it's done | 03:31 |
| seb128 | and get a green line when they are done | 03:31 |
| dholbach | yes, I'll make that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/WeeklyTODO | 03:31 |
| dholbach | working on it now | 03:31 |
| seb128 | cool | 03:32 |
| dholbach | should we try to agree on a time and date for next week? | 03:32 |
| dholbach | erm | 03:32 |
| dholbach | next meeting | 03:32 |
| dholbach | what about same time in two weeks? | 03:33 |
| dholbach | does that work well for everybody? | 03:33 |
| === coNP goes on holiday then, but it is not a problem for me | ||
| === coNP seems to have difficulties in dealing with multiple personalities :) | ||
| seb128 | dholbach: not sure it's ideal, that's during GUADEC ;) | 03:35 |
| dholbach | hehe :) | 03:35 |
| dholbach | ah right | 03:35 |
| seb128 | 3 weeks? | 03:35 |
| dholbach | fine with me, although I'll probably be at ubuntulive | 03:35 |
| seb128 | dholbach: will you be there in 2 weeks? | 03:35 |
| dholbach | no, the week after guadec | 03:36 |
| seb128 | no, I mean available for a meeting | 03:36 |
| seb128 | in which case let's do it in 2 weeks | 03:36 |
| seb128 | you will be around since you don't go to GUADEC | 03:36 |
| dholbach | yes, that's fine with me | 03:36 |
| seb128 | and I'll be around for the next one when you are on holidays | 03:36 |
| seb128 | I mean be able to join from GUADEC also | 03:37 |
| seb128 | I expect they will have wireless there ;) | 03:37 |
| dholbach | yeah, I should think so :) | 03:38 |
| dholbach | ok, let's go with 2 weeks from now, same time | 03:38 |
| dholbach | everybody ok with that? | 03:39 |
| seb128 | yes | 03:41 |
| dholbach | super | 03:42 |
| dholbach | anything to add? any problems you see at the moment? anything we should make sure to get done soon? anything you'd like to let the team know? | 03:42 |
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| dholbach | ok, probably not | 03:45 |
| dholbach | let's adjourn then | 03:45 |
| dholbach | thanks everybody for turning up | 03:45 |
| dholbach | let's bring up everything else on ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com then | 03:46 |
| dholbach | have a nice day | 03:46 |
| seb128 | thanks dholbach | 03:50 |
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