[01:47] (Jared/#ubuntu) thanks
[01:47] (Megaqwerty/#ubuntu) you're welcome
[01:47] (younghacker/#ubuntu) so cool thats is succesful , so will this actually install the vmware tools or just place them on the partition somewhere and i finish the process?
[01:47] (ceil422/#ubuntu) Pete_, apparently java clients are banned from #ubuntu <_< had to get mIRC on my mom's laptop
[01:47] (led43/#ubuntu) kditty try man samba
[01:47] (ceil422/#ubuntu) Pete_, Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/yQAHPW97.html
[01:47] (Megaqwerty/#ubuntu) younghacker: they will be installed
[01:48] (younghacker/#ubuntu) thanks a million..
[01:48] <Megaqwerty> younghacker: you're welcome
[01:48] <Pete_> ceil420: For whatever reason
[01:48] <Aghaster> I've killed gdm and opened another terminal screen to edit xorg.conf
[01:48] <younghacker> ok i have a question about images and using dd to copy them
[01:48] <fatespeaks> Good question, kditty.  I'm having problems with that as well.
[01:48] <ksattic_> Guys, any tips on how to debug a boot problem? I am a complete beginner and have looked online but I have reached a brick wall. I have checked the dmesg log and there is nothing out of the ordinary. Boot just will not complete after a restart. I can get a console in recovery mode.
[01:48] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: check to see if you are using the nvidia driver, not the nv driver
[01:48] <Aghaster> nvidia
[01:48] <kditty> fatespeaks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[01:49] <kditty> try that, i just found it
[01:49] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: okay...are you running any desktop effects?
[01:49] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: (i.e. beryl/compiz/compiz-fusion)
[01:49] <younghacker> i have an image on my desktop, it is downloaded via ftp , it should be a disk image and i want to put it into autopsy to run forensics on it,, however autopsy will not recognize it as a valid image
[01:49] <ceil422> Pete_, and Xorg.0.log.old http://rafb.net/p/9FiuZ930.html (i hate this laptop -_- i need a mouse and a REAL keyboard)
[01:49] <andrewkk> I'd also like to know how to get more debugging information out of a failed boot
[01:49] <younghacker> it's extension is .dd is there something wrong with that?
[01:49] <Aghaster> I haven't had the chance to enable them, but xorg.conf is configured to try to run composite
[01:49] <Pete_> ceil420: I know what you mean with mice, I have to carry a usb one with my laptop.
[01:50] <Aghaster> so no desktop effects at this point
[01:50] <andrewkk> I have a fresh install that reboots every time just after grub finishes.
[01:50] <ceil422> wish i had one :x
[01:50] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: okay, what nvidia card do you have?
[01:50] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: (I'll need the model)
[01:51] <ssn> hi
[01:51] <ssn> my firefox 2.04 segfaults
[01:51] <Aghaster> I have an nvidia 6600 GT
[01:51] <ssn> it doesnt open at all
[01:51] <ssn> any suggestions?
[01:51] <Megaqwerty> andrewkk: have you tried logging into the recovery console and watching the output?
[01:51] <Aghaster> I'm scrolling through /var/log/Xorg.0.log and there are two (EE) lines
[01:51] <andrewkk> ssn: what cpu architecture are you running?
[01:51] <vip3rousmango> anyone know how to open a .swf with gnash?
[01:52] <ssn> andrewkk: i386? its ubuntustudio
[01:52] <Aghaster> NVIDIA(0) Error recovery failed
[01:52] <ssn> 2.6.20-16-lowlatency
[01:52] <andrewkk> Megaqwerty: it doesnt get any farther than "Starting up..." before it reboots. live CD worked fine...
[01:52] <Stokesy> these recent updates arent going to update my kernel are they?
[01:52] <Aghaster> NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
[01:52] <Aghaster> unfortunately this gives no clues.
[01:52] <ssn> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:52] <cngo> HELLO !
[01:52] <led43> ssn try running it from the command line and make a note of any error msg's
[01:52] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: give me a second to check your model...you may need a different nvidia driver
[01:52] <andrewkk> ssn: sorry don't know what to tell you. i've had trouble with amd64 builds in the past.
[01:52] <ssn> led43: i did :D
[01:53] <ssn> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:53] <ssn> thats all
[01:53] <Megaqwerty> andrewkk: I have no idea...sorry.
[01:53] <younghacker> cool it works
[01:53] <n2diy> ssn: how much ram is on your system?
[01:53] <Ominous> argh getting world of warcraft to work is a pain, it was working and now its not
[01:53] <ssn> 256mb
[01:53] <Aghaster> I have an nvidia 6600 GT, it's in the ubuntu supported cards list. the tool would be installing the wrong driver?
[01:53] <vip3rousmango> anyone know how to open a .swf file with gnash? Every time i double click on it it opens Totem Movie Player =\
[01:53] <led43> oh way ubove my head then - sorry
[01:54] <ceil420> Pete_, see anything wrong with those Xorg.0.logs? :x i couldn't find anything, but mebbe you can
[01:54] <ssn> firefox worked well until today
[01:54] <ssn> i dont have any idea what could have caused this
[01:54] <ssn> opera works well
[01:54] <mrigns> vip3rousmango: just open it in your broser
[01:54] <led43> updated it recently?
[01:54] <mrigns> *browser
[01:55] <verb3k_> Guys if I hve a directory full of text files ...and I want to replace every single occurrence of " foo" with " bar "  ....how can I do that from the command line ? thanks in advance
[01:55] <andrewkk> ssn: have you tried reinstalling it?
[01:55] <verb3k_> have*
[01:55] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: I'm not sure...that's why I'm checking...please be patient.
[01:55] <younghacker> anyone familiar with autopsy?
[01:55] <vip3rousmango> mrings: yes, but thats not what i need/want. I need to open this without browers
[01:55] <ssn> andrewkk: with apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[01:55] <vip3rousmango> mrings: i have gnash, but i can't select it from the "Open with" app list..
[01:55] <ssn> but it doesnt work
[01:55] <younghacker> MSG
[01:56] <vip3rousmango> is tasty
[01:56] <Ominous> is there a place where i can get drivers for my logitech mx510 mouse?
[01:56] <Pete_> ceil420: Its not all that obvious where its crashing out, still looking
[01:56] <younghacker> @ ssn, would the command be the same to reinstall other applications as well?
[01:56] <vip3rousmango> Ominous: that the cordless duel laser mouse?
[01:56] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[01:56] <mrigns> vip3rousmango: tried writing gnash im the text field below the app list?
[01:56] <Ominous> no
[01:56] <ajmorris_> hi shiester_miester
[01:56] <ssn> younghacker: i dont understand your question
[01:57] <vip3rousmango> mrigns: you mean just gnash down there?
[01:57] <vip3rousmango> mrigns: nope, havn't tried that yet
[01:57] <shiester_miester> when i go to share a folder, the only option that comes up is to share through windows networks (SMB).  is there a native linux way of sharing folders?
[01:57] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: I can't seem to find the list I used to have of which cards should get which driver... give me the output of
[01:57] <Megaqwerty> dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[01:57] <ksattic_> OK, I tried booting with an older kernel and now I get a BusyBox v1.1.3 prompt... am confused. Where did this come from?
[01:57] <kitche> ksattic_: it's part of the initrd
[01:57] <younghacker> you were saying to reinstall mozilla firefox you would execute that line correct, i was asking if it would be the same to reinstall other programs as well like maybe wp_tray or yakuake
[01:57] <Pete_> ceil420: I don't have anything similar to lines 207-213 in my log
[01:57] <Ominous> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/831&cl=gb,en is what it is
[01:57] <ceil420> Pete_, much appreciated o/ I saw the big chunk of "NVIDIA" lines, but none of them had [EE]  next to it :x and at the bottom the only [EE]  was when it tried to load wacom (i don't have a tablet)
[01:58] <ceil420> brb
[01:58] <Aghaster> nvidia-glx                           install
[01:58] <Aghaster> nvidia-kernel-common                                          install
[01:58] <Pete_> ceil420: Yeh, the wacom tablet lines are just stuck in there by default, didn't even get my wacom tablet working sadly :(
[01:58] <vip3rousmango> mrigns: ahhh it worked, thanks
[01:58] <shiester_miester> it seems as though sharing through windows networks (SMB) causes some kind of performance hit, because the file sharing seems rather slow.  is there a faster way of doing it?
[01:58] <n2diy> ksattic_: where you backing up with mondo-mindu? Busybox is a kernel supplied with that software.
[01:59] <mrigns> vip3rousmango: you're welcome
[01:59] <zigarth> Hey guys, I've been scouring the forums, but I can't figure our why my native screen resolution is not an option under Screen Resolution. I entered all the appropriate information into xorg.conf, and nothing. I am running an ATI Radeon 9600 pro. Can anyone help?
[01:59] <kitche> !res | zigarth
[01:59] <ubotu> zigarth: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:59] <shiester_miester> zigarth, what resolution are you trying to display?
[01:59] <mrigns> !hi > mrigns
[01:59] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: okay, give me a minute...I'm going to try to find that list one more time...
[01:59] <zigarth> 1440 x 900
[02:00] <zigarth> but that option is not available :(
[02:00] <Aghaster> okay, thanks for your help
[02:00] <mkyb14> I'm trying to install Feisty on an old gateway... upon booting up only 640x480 resolution is available and I can't see the next buttons to install... how can I fix this?
[02:00] <vip3rousmango> is there an equivilant to ctrl+atl+del in ubuntu? how does one force-close something?
[02:00] <Pete_> vip3rousmango: Theres xkill, ctrl - alt - esc
[02:00] <slavik> click the X, the force quit dialog will come up
[02:00] <ceil422> Pete_, re: 208-213, nvidia-glx is the driver i needed for my video card, i think; i've since tried nvidia-glx-new (or something like that), which didn't help :x
[02:00] <kitche> vip3rousmango: kill -9 <pid> or killall process xkill might not kill the full program though
[02:00] <Aghaster> vip: you can also open a terminal, type "ps aux" and then use kill <pid>
[02:01] <slavik> mkyb14: hold alt, and you can grab the window anywhere
[02:01] <Pete_> ceil420: I use nvidia-glx-new (supports the 5200 fine)
[02:01] <vip3rousmango> wtf is pid?
[02:01] <Aghaster> gnome also has a little tool you can add in your panel in order to kill windows
[02:01] <vip3rousmango> program id?
[02:01] <Aghaster> yeah
[02:01] <eck> process id
[02:01] <slavik> cipyes
[02:01] <Aghaster> program id
[02:01] <vip3rousmango> ahhh ok
[02:01] <zigarth> 1280 x 1024 is the highest resolution available in ubuntu, for some reason...
[02:01] <zigarth> for me, anyway
[02:01] <ceil420> Pete_, yeah, i just re-installed that; i still never see the login screen :x
[02:01] <Aghaster> it's a number that "ps aux" will give you along with the program name
[02:01] <fatespeaks> kditty, thanks.
[02:01] <fatespeaks> Though a samba connection worked out of the box with Debian.  I assumed that Ubuntu would have the same support.
[02:02] <vip3rousmango> is there like a terminal command cheat-sheet somewhere?
[02:02] <slavik> zigarth: same here, 1280x1024 si highest for me, too
[02:02] <mkyb14> slavik thanks... by the way how do you put a msg to a specific person...
[02:02] <Aghaster> cheat-sheet?
[02:02] <vip3rousmango> yeah
[02:02] <slavik> mkyb14: in irc?
[02:02] <Pete_> ceil420: Backup your xorg.conf file, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:02] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: I still can't find that list :( but can I assume you can survive in a terminal (just in case you need to reset to the nv driver if one of the suggestions doesn't work)
[02:02] <oslo__> !opendns
[02:02] <kditty> fatespeaks: not out of box, but ive used samba before, it worked fine after i figured out the login problems
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opendns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <fatespeaks> I am running 3840x1024
[02:02] <Pete_> ceil420: Then "rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" "dexconf" "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[02:02] <eck> vip3rousmango: uh, you can use apropos
[02:02] <mkyb14> yea... like how it makes the msg with my name .... i can't remember.. you start typing and it should auto fill
[02:03] <Pete_> fatespeaks: Snap on that resolution :)
[02:03] <Aghaster> yeah, I can try and set it back to nv. I just installed ubuntu in the hope I'd be able to get 3D acceleration working with it
[02:03] <vip3rousmango> eck: what is that/where do i find it?
[02:03] <slavik> mkyb14: tab
[02:03] <zigarth> slavik: It's driving me crazy... I've added the parameters for higher resolutions into xorg.conf, and it still won't let me change the resolution to anything higher.
[02:03] <fatespeaks> to get 3840x1024, had to edit xorg.conf and add modeline.
[02:03] <eck> vip3rousmango: type it into a terminal, e.g. apropos kill
[02:03] <fatespeaks> using a matrox triplehead2go
[02:03] <vip3rousmango> ohh
[02:03] <mkyb14> slavik: nice thanks
[02:03] <slavik> zigarth: can the monitor support those resolutions? can the driver support them?
[02:03] <Raiders32> 
[02:03] <Raiders32> 
[02:03] <Raiders32> 
[02:03] <Raiders32> 
[02:03] <Raiders32>                                                             !watchdog
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about watchdog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <fatespeaks> also had to switch to nvidia drivers instead of nv
[02:04] <Pete_> fatespeaks: I've always wonderered how well they work
[02:04] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: okay, I'm not saying you should switch back, just if it doesn't work.
[02:04] <ceil420> heh
[02:04] <ceil420> Pete_, Failed to start X server
[02:04] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: and you can't get into the gui
[02:04] <zigarth> slavik: yea, in fact it worked in fedora just fine. My monitor is 19 inch wide screen and 1440 x 900 is native. The drivers are correct and should support the resolution.
[02:04] <Aghaster> in fact the problems is that I get black & white blinking screen with very small resolution
[02:04] <Pete_> ceil420: Then forget that and get the old config back, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/init.d/xorg.conf, as its not that
[02:05] <vip3rousmango> is there any way to bind the ` key so that terminal pops up when i hit it?
[02:05] <Aghaster> I still can blindly login with gdm, and hear gnome start
[02:05] <ceil420> Pete_, (WW) VESA: No matching device for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found.
[02:05] <slavik> zigarth: check wiki please
[02:05] <fatespeaks> the triplehead2go is pretty cool and I can share 3 monitors between multiple computers with a kvm.
[02:05] <Aghaster> so I'm a bit more advanced than with debian XD
[02:05] <eck> vip3rousmango: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[02:05] <ceil420> Pete_, oh okay
[02:05] <vip3rousmango> eck: thanks!
[02:05] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: yeah, okay. I just wanted to make sure you wouldn't get lost if you had to use a terminal to recover
[02:05] <led43> By folks will see you all later when I have finish my install
[02:06] <Pete_> Hopefully someday ubuntu will get a reasonable x config tool.. like sax.
[02:06] <Aghaster> I'm comfortable with using the terminal
[02:06] <Aghaster> :P
[02:06] <zigarth> slavik: I've tried several solutions through the forums which failed... do you think the wiki would be more useful?
[02:06] <Pete_> led43: Good luck
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: I remember there was a kernel module problem when doing this...so give me another minute to check how I circumvented that.
[02:06] <Aghaster> good
[02:08] <erick> I am So Confused
[02:08] <erick> ADAM!
[02:08] <Aghaster> why?
[02:08] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: okay, so you need to install nvidia-glx-new
[02:08] <Aghaster> oh
[02:09] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: that might fix it. But...if you get an X error about a version mismatch or something to that effect...
[02:09] <Aghaster> I switched to nv in order to deactivate the automatic management tool for proprietary drivers
[02:10] <Megaqwerty> Aghaster: you will need to reinstall nvidia-kernel-common and linux-restricted-modules-386 . That should do it...Good Luck
[02:10] <Aghaster> thanks
[02:11] <gr1mr34per> need broadcom 802.1x drivers for ubuntu
[02:11] <vip3rousmango> anyone know a codex package that has .rvmb?? Totem goes nutz when i try to play that endign
[02:11] <gr1mr34per> any help plz?
[02:11] <LeoDioxide_> !touchscreen
[02:11] <LeoDioxide_> hmm
[02:11] <Aghaster> gr1mr34pz: what is the model of your cardY?
[02:11] <gr1mr34per> hang on
[02:12] <Aghaster> check out ndiswrapper, that's probably what you need.
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <LeoDioxide_> can you get a touchscreen working in linux?
[02:12] <macabro22> can someone point me to a good xgl-compiz startup script?
[02:12] <vip3rousmango> im sure you can
[02:12] <vip3rousmango> no idea how, but im sure its possible
[02:12] <M-> LeoDioxide_: Sure, plenty of people have. But it depends a bit on the specific model
[02:12] <Stwange> hey I'm looking for a decent media player with mp3/m4a/(ideally)wma support, and a simple video player with avi/mpg support, any recommendations?
[02:13] <gr1mr34per> Aghaster it doesnt tell me...but its the ones that come in with a hp laptop
[02:13] <gr1mr34per> onboard
[02:13] <M-> LeoDioxide_: Most of them present a generic Serial keyboard interface
[02:13] <macabro22> I use amarok and kaffeine
[02:13] <fatespeaks> I think that I used a broadcom cord on my laptop.  the 11G card that I use is a motorola something
[02:13] <vip3rousmango> stwange: XMMS for music media/ and totum with the gstreamer packages
[02:13] <vip3rousmango> stwang: for movies
[02:13] <LeoDioxide_> M-: it's usb attached
[02:13] <macabro22> for mp3 and video respectively
[02:13] <w30> younghacker: to register nickname type /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[02:13] <M-> LeoDioxide_: It's probably USB serial then
[02:13] <w30> 
[02:14] <LeoDioxide_> that would make sense wouldn't it
[02:14] <kitche> younghacker: /quote is a tad better then /msg if your client supports it
[02:14] <Stwange> thanks :) wish me luck - downloading/installing hasn't been easy so far
[02:14] <w30> younghacker: to register nickname type /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[02:14] <TheGuaranaTHEORY> But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare
[02:14] <TheGuaranaTHEORY> Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[b] That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.
[02:14] <Aghaster> grim: are you currently on windows or linux on your laptop?
[02:14] <TheGuaranaTHEORY> He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
[02:14] <M-> ! ops
[02:14] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:14] <fatespeaks> found really good info on help.ubuntu.com for setting up the broadcom.
[02:14] <gnomefreak> M-: ?
[02:14] <gr1mr34per> i am on vista on laptop
[02:14] <n2diy> ! ops
[02:14] <LeoDioxide_> whats with the spam?
[02:14] <PriceChild> M-, ?
[02:15] <macabro22> there is no god, wake up
[02:15] <gr1mr34per> i am in the middle of installing it on an exteral hdd
[02:15] <gnomefreak> M-: ?
[02:15] <Pete_> What is this..
[02:15] <PriceChild> ah :)
[02:15] <kitche> gnomefreak: TheGuaranaTHEORY
[02:15] <nalioth> TheGuaranaTHEORY: please stay on topic here
[02:15] <PriceChild> thanks M-
[02:15] <TheGuaranaTHEORY> Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
[02:15] <slavik> gnomefreak: TheGuaranaTHEORY :)
[02:15] <M-> :)
[02:15] <M-> thanks guys
[02:15] <Pete_> Thanks
[02:15] <macabro22> Hmm another anti-darwinian freak
[02:15] <qisault> Is there a way to have a timed log out option?  Say if the machine is sitting idle for say 10 min to auto log out?
[02:16] <LeoDioxide_> so the lord of terror bhaal runs ubuntu?
[02:16] <enviouz> anybody know of a frontend for unrar?
[02:16] <n2diy> qisault: google for Ubuntu kiosk
[02:17] <enviouz> or any gui based rar archivers?
[02:17] <qisault> n2diy: Thanks.
[02:17] <kitche> macabro22: seems like he pasted it in the wrong channel lol
[02:17] <Aghaster> grim, check this out
[02:17] <Aghaster> http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/index.html?dir=dload&location=sware_dl_x86&langx=en&a
[02:17] <Aghaster> it should help you identify your card from vista
[02:17] <gr1mr34per> will do
[02:17] <gr1mr34per> brb
[02:18] <macabro22> kitche: yep.
[02:18] <LeoDioxide_> what installs rpms?
[02:18] <DanaG> I'm trying to install Feisty on an old laptop, but the CD is caught in a loop of Gnome crashing.
[02:18] <n2diy> I'm test driving gaim as my irc client, when someone replies to me, I'm not alerted by a bell, like with gnome-xchat, is there a fix for this?
[02:18] <LeoDioxide_> n2diy: preferences -> sounds
[02:19] <enviouz> LeoDioxide_:  rpms are redhat/fedora platform. we use .deb
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> LeoDioxide_: rpms are for Red Hat style distros, not Ubuntu.
[02:19] <gr1mr34per> Aghaster, i am completely lost on that website
[02:19] <LeoDioxide_> oh.....
[02:19] <LeoDioxide_> thats not good.....
[02:19] <Stwange> I've downloaded XMME as a .tar.gz file, and I have it open with an archive manager, but what files am I looking for inside? Or what do I do with all the files? eg. in windows I would know to go straight for a .exe or a .txt instruction
[02:19] <n2diy> LeoDioxide_: I don't have a preferences option, I do have options > enable sounds, enabled.
[02:19] <enviouz> you can convert them using alien but i dont recommend it adn it usually doesnt work
[02:20] <vip3rousmango> Stwange: you're looking for a .sh file
[02:20] <M-> LeoDioxide_: You can convert RPMs to debs with the package 'alien'. But there are no guarantees as to whether it'll work or not.
[02:20] <LeoDioxide_> n2diy: are you getting sound from other programs?
[02:20] <ibanex> DanaG: try the alternate install CD
[02:20] <andrewkk> Stwange: http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[02:20] <LeoDioxide_> probably won't work, its drivers
[02:20] <enviouz> LeoDioxide_:  what driver? for what?
[02:20] <Aghaster> gr1mper: why are you asking for linux drivers for your card if it runs vista?
[02:20] <n2diy> LeoDioxide_: Yes, gnome-xchat rings when I get a reply.
[02:21] <gr1mr34per> vista is just eating too much out of my computer
[02:21] <james296> I need help installing my WUSB54GSC network card since its the only one I have that has SpeedBooster..
[02:21] <james296> can anyone plz help me?
[02:21] <Aghaster> ok
[02:21] <gr1mr34per> i am installing ubuntu in my laptop
[02:21] <turtlehopper81> I have an old laptop without a cdrom how can I install ubuntu
[02:21] <Stwange> thanks
[02:22] <james296> or would it automatically work after reinstallation?
[02:22] <LeoDioxide_> enviouz: touchscreen drivers for me elo systems touchscreen
[02:22] <Aghaster> http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/index.html?dir=&location=downandbuy&langx=en&a= download the lite version here
[02:22] <andrewkk> turtlehopper81: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[02:22] <LeoDioxide_> n2diy: do you have more than 1 audio card? (onboard/pci)
[02:22] <n2diy> Gaim is laim, switching back to xchat.
[02:22] <enviouz> ahh ic. sorry i know nothing about that. just thought i could help but i guess not
[02:22] <Aghaster> it is a software to help you identify what's in your computer
[02:22] <LeoDioxide_> thanks anyway
[02:22] <Aghaster> useful for laptops, they don't give much info.
[02:22] <gr1mr34per> ok
[02:23] <LeoDioxide_> dmesg?
[02:23] <n2diy> LeoDioxide_: No, I ditching gaim, so don't worry about it, thanks.
[02:23] <Telefon> wtf? 100 peole!
[02:23] <Telefon> 1000
[02:23] <LeoDioxide_> n2diy: I don't blame you >.>
[02:23] <n2diy> I / I'm
[02:23] <supremesonic> Anyone can tell me how to download a homesite with wget, where I get all pictures with me and only pictures and css etc with me, however some of the pictures and css files may be on another domain.
[02:23] <vox754> Telefon, yeah we are a few. Upon new releases there are like 1300
[02:23] <LeoDioxide_> supremesonic: man wget
[02:24] <sn-> supremesonic im not sure but there is a firefox extension called "download them all" to do just that
[02:24] <DanaG> This laptop's CD drive is "made of fail."
[02:24] <Telefon> and no admin/mod?
[02:24] <ChrisF_> greetings, I'm trying to run wine to install dreamweaver but I am getting this error when I try to run wine dw_client_install.exe.  "wine: could not load L"D:\\fscommand\\dw_client_installer.exe": Module not found
[02:24] <james296> so can anyone PLZ help me?
[02:24] <ChrisF_> anybody know how to fix this?  What's this module?
[02:24] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Pete_, ceil420 here, in xchat :o m8 told me i can just use "xstart" to get my GUI, and it worked :) so the problem is specifically with the login window, apparently :x anyway to restore that to defaults?
[02:24] <LeoDioxide_> james296: whats the problem?
[02:24] <supremesonic> LeoDioxide, I already done man wget. I don't know how to do that special thing, I try lot of things
[02:24] <enviouz> LeoDioxide_:  is it usb?
[02:24] <LeoDioxide_> enviouz: yeah
[02:24] <Aghaster> james: have you looked for ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <james296> I need help setting up my wireless WUSB54GSC driver...
[02:25] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> !gdm
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> ^=- whatever that process is, it's got my CPU at 100%, too :x
[02:25] <james296> yes when I installed it underr that nothing happened at all
[02:25] <LeoDioxide_> supremesonic: downloadthemall the plugin will help you a lot, I'd go with that
[02:25] <supremesonic> sn- Thanks I will look into that.
[02:25] <andrewkk> DanaG: can you be more specific?
[02:25] <james296> like when I chose the .inf file it acted as if nothing at all happened...
[02:25] <enviouz> found this  http://www.softcoded.net/eduard/elousb.html    talks aboiut the driver (its for ubuntu dapper but may still work)
[02:25] <SAM_theman> !vmware
[02:25] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:25] <supremesonic> LeoDioxide_  for wget or for firefox/ or other?
[02:25] <n2diy_> LeoDioxide_: I'm in xchat now, send me a reply, and lets see if the system bell rings now?
[02:25] <eternalswd> is there a package for the mozilla sdk in the repos?
[02:26] <LeoDioxide_> supremesonic: firefox
[02:26] <LeoDioxide_> n2diy_: blahblah!
[02:26] <supremesonic> doh didn't see that lol
[02:26] <Bob_Dole> Xchat is the pwn
[02:26] <kitche> supremesonic: well wget -r means recursive so that might be what you want but wget onyl grabs files not used for mirroring really whihc is what you want to do pretty much
[02:26] <james296> so yeah...
[02:26] <Pete_> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: xstart is not a command i've come across. Have a look at /var/log/gdm.log
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy_: did it work?
[02:26] <n2diy_> LeoDioxide_: Nope, had a reboot from a power failure this morning, looks like I can't be blaming gaim.
[02:27] <LeoDioxide_> yeah, I have problems with alsa choosing different sound devices, but it sounds like you nuked yours :\
[02:27] <slavik> how do I select which device OSS uses?
[02:27] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: nope, I have a sound problem some where. Lost power this morning, and the system did a hard shut down, so I'm off to trouble shoot.
[02:27] <Pete_> supremesonic: If you are looking to mirror a site try "wget --mirror --page-requisites http://site.com/"
[02:28] <supremesonic> kitche, I try. However it doesn't take pictures from other hosts or domains. I try with -p -k too. They only works when the pictures is in a sub folder.
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> LeoDioxide_: i had a lot of probs with that to, i ended up downloading the "bell" from X-chat gnome, and going through and manually setting the options
[02:28] <DanaG> WTF?  How does usplash get full-res framebuffer if vesafb isn't loaded?
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy_: is your other sound working?
[02:28] <DanaG> It's like magic.
[02:28] <kitche> supremesonic: have to look up website mirroring on linux it should tell you
[02:28] <LeoDioxide_> this morning I flashed my bios, and windows stopped booting >.<
[02:28] <enviouz> LeoDioxide_:  thats all i can find on that driver as it pertains to ubuntu. hope it helps you though
[02:28] <Pete_> supremesonic: You need -p or --page-requisites switch
[02:29] <LeoDioxide_> enviouz: looks like it will, thanks
[02:29] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: nope, I right click on my volume control, and prefrences, and I'm told no device found, looks the hard shutdown munged something?
[02:29] <enviouz> np
[02:29] <DanaG> LeoDioxide_: do you have a SATA drive on an ICH-something southbridge?
[02:29] <pili> Hi, any lightweigt bitorrent client?
[02:29] <dfwlinuxguy> pili deluge is great
[02:29] <pili> and easy?
[02:30] <DanaG> The ICH5 and such southbridges have multiple modes for SATA and PATA to operate in.
[02:30] <supremesonic> Pete_  thats the thing I don't want all the pages I just want one page and all images it point too. Like http://en.wikipedia.com/SomeSubject  and I want all pictures from that site only. However wikipedia uploads the pictures to another domain called http://uploads.wikipedia.com/media or something
[02:30] <syahreza> hello
[02:30] <dfwlinuxguy> pili yes easy
[02:30] <syahreza> in indonesia
 i'll try
[02:30] <LeoDioxide_> DanaG: yeah, I think I do, why?
[02:30] <llol> hello folks
[02:30] <llol> is there a way to redetect a pci NIC card
[02:31] <jacekowski> reload module
[02:31] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: I just tried running Audacity, and it reported an error with the "audio i/o layer?
[02:31] <llol> lights are on it but its ETH name aint coming up
[02:31] <llol> just use that command?
[02:31] <jacekowski> no
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy_: hmm, no clue... sounds like a sound issue though, not just xchat
[02:31] <dfwlinuxguy> pili http://www.deluge-torrent.org/
[02:31] <enviouz> LeoDioxide_:  also try apt-cache search touchscreen (there is few references there)
[02:31] <jacekowski> sudo rmmod module_name
[02:31] <jacekowski> sudo modprobe module_name
[02:31] <pili> thanx
[02:31] <jacekowski> but it's probably something with udev
[02:31] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: Yep, got some work to do.
[02:32] <dfruge> hello all
[02:32] <|Jason8|> Hello all.  I found a script to create a swap file (swap partition got screwed up, etc...) but I'm not able to execute it.  What would the chmod be to be able to execute it?  -x?
[02:32] <LeoDioxide_> man, I didn't know apt-cache existed
[02:32] <mykbot2600> I set up a mail server, and have a domain name.  I set up the mail server on my box using postfix, but am unsure how to configure my domain name to send mail to my machine.  Anybody know anything about this?
[02:32] <llol> so how do i find the module that it uses
[02:32] <kitche> |Jason8|: chmod +x
[02:32] <jacekowski> |Jason8|: do this by hand
 As of Feisty, Deluge is in Ubuntu's universe repository. DO NOT INSTALL THIS VERSION
[02:32] <llol> its one of em realtek cards
[02:32] <jacekowski> llol: 8139cp or 8139too
[02:33] <yoyo> anyone here have experience with creating a Xen guest os ?
[02:33] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: Duh, I have a script file I need to run, to load the sound modules after a reboot! When you only reboot four times a year, you forget these things!
[02:33] <jacekowski> yoyo: me some, on gentoo
[02:33] <llol> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ heres wat i got
[02:33] <yoyo> so u ran an ubuntu guest os on the gentoo host os?
[02:33] <jacekowski> n2diy_: what with kernel updated
[02:33] <jacekowski> updates*
[02:33] <dfwlinuxguy> pili it means do not install the repository version...download the one from the website and use it
[02:34] <dfwlinuxguy> pili the one in the repository is out of date...confusing I know
[02:34] <pili> wow, compiling now
[02:34] <pili> getdeb
[02:34] <n2diy_> jacekowski: ??
[02:34] <gr1mr34per> aghaster, i just shows broadcom 802.11g network adapter
[02:34] <|Jason8|> kitche, I keep getting "startup-swap command not found"
[02:34] <dfwlinuxguy> pili you don't have to compile it
 getdeb has got it, thanx
[02:34] <pili> easier
[02:35] <kitche> |Jason8|: yeah is that the script?
[02:35] <jacekowski> |Jason8|: do this by hand
[02:35] <|Jason8|> kitche, sure is.
[02:35] <DanaG> LeoDioxide_: oops, I stopped paying attention for a little while.
[02:36] <gr1mr34per> Aghaster, it wont show me a model name, it just shows broadcom 802.11g network adapter :/
[02:36] <DanaG> Take a look in the BIOS settings for something about "IDE mode" or "SATA mode" -- there's something similar to "enhanced" and something like "legacy" or "emulation".
[02:36] <kitche> |Jason8|: ./startup-swap in the folder that the script is in
[02:36] <DanaG> If it's on one, try setting it to the other.
[02:36] <Bob_Dole> Leonidis says "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAA"  >>>
[02:36] <LeoDioxide_> and that'll help with teh windows?
[02:36] <DanaG> Yeah.
[02:36] <Bob_Dole> I'm done with meme's now.
[02:36] <DanaG> Windows doesn't like having IDE devices randomly change drivers.
[02:36] <|Jason8|> kitche, thanks :)
[02:36] <LeoDioxide_> ooooh
[02:36] <LeoDioxide_> ok
[02:37] <LeoDioxide_> after I get mah touchscreen working of course
[02:37] <DanaG> If you want to use it in the new mode, you'll have to manually install the new drivers while it's booted in the old mode.
[02:37] <DanaG> Argh, is there anything I can do about this old laptop whose CD drive refuses to properly read a burned CD?
[02:38] <Paranoiak> hi everybody
[02:38] <DanaG> If disabling DMA will fix it, how do I do that?
[02:38] <bronze> Help! I can just merely move the mouse (sometimes), but all the buttons arei ntactcs
[02:38] <Paranoiak> how can we see dhcp client table?
[02:38] <bronze> intact*
[02:39] <foxjazz> bronze: foxjazz<< No idea
[02:39] <bronze> Huh?
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy_: lol, i take it that fixed it?
[02:39] <foxjazz> bronze: Dude I have NO idea
[02:39] <LeoDioxide_> ok, bbl, gotta try stuff
[02:39] <bronze> All my buttons work but I can't move the mouse. It wasn't like this before and it worked in windows
[02:39] <ccesare> Does anyone have any tips for improving battery life for laptops in Feisty?
[02:40] <gr1mr34per> aghaster?
[02:40] <enviouz> anybody know of a frontend for unrar? or a rar archiver that has a gui?
[02:40] <Aghaster> yeah
[02:40] <foxjazz> ccesare: Yea, put water on it
[02:40] <Aghaster> I'm thinking
[02:40] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> hey
[02:40] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: Sorry, I was out of the room, try again and I'll tell you for sure?
[02:40] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> what would happen if i killed gdm?
[02:40] <foxjazz> Aghaster: sorry about that dude.
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> you said you forgot you had to run a script after you reboot, did running the script fix it?
[02:41] <bronze> enviouz, I believe that the built-in archive manager supports rar if you install unrar
[02:41] <specialmoose> workspaces for ubuntu, using just 1, anyway to have it not show all 4?
[02:41] <AphGab>   Anyone familiar with Linux Scroll lock and KVM issues?  Is there a way around the issue?
[02:41] <specialmoose> or just narrow it down to 2?
[02:41] <enviouz> ahh ok ty ill try that once. i didnt know that i just though it plain didnt support it
[02:41] <Stwange> Thanks for the help so far, I think things are starting to come together, but I'm not really understanding why yet. Quick couple more questions: Why is it possible to browse my NTFS partition? I didn't think Linux could even read it. And I have all my music in the NTFS partition, are there any benefits of copying it over, seeing as I can read it anyway?
[02:41] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> also, where's the configuration file for the graphical login screen? whenever i try to use the GUI login window config thing, it for some reason tries to load the login screen, which currently isn't working.
[02:41] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: I don't know, you didn't include my nick in your last post.
[02:41] <bionoid> specialmoose: right-click them bottom-right, properties..
[02:42] <PurpZeY> ccesare: Change the brightness letter when unplugged, and possible cpu scaling
[02:42] <Aghaster> oh well... I don't know. sisandra helped me identify it, otherwise there are tools on linux to do it
[02:42] <llol> my network card is not coming up in the network tools yet the hardware information sees it
[02:42] <foxjazz> Stwange: linux can read all partitions.. No benefit heh
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy_: yes i did, you said you had to run a script when you reboot to reload sound modules
[02:42] <llol> i tried the module reload nada
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> was wondering if it worked.
[02:43] <Busata> joho a pirate's life for me
[02:43] <Busata> drink up me hearties!
[02:43] <Aghaster> llol: what is your card?
[02:43] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> also, where's the configuration file for the graphical login screen? whenever i try to use the GUI login window config thing, it for some reason tries to load the login screen, which currently isn't working. (alternatively, if someone knows a simple command to restore the login window settings to default, that'd be great, too)
[02:43] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: Nope, the script ran ok, but still no sound. And I have to split for a couple hours, so I'll troubleshoot it later, thanks.
[02:43] <llol> its a realtek 8139
[02:43] <Aghaster> have you checked ndiswrapper?
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy_: ok.. good luck w/ it
[02:44] <specialmoose> bionoid, well when i drag a window over (does the cube effect) into another space, how do i go back into that space? i use ctr+alt+left/right but that goes into the new desktop space
[02:44] <llol> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[02:44] <enviouz> bronze:  the default archinve manager does work with rar after install unrar. thankx so much.
[02:44] <pngwen> how can I get the form wizard in oobase to work?  It works everywhere else, but not in ubuntu.
[02:44] <bronze> np mate
[02:44] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: My CW practice program is working, so this is weird.
[02:45] <pngwen> I found something on the forums about using a different version of java, but now it won't even open.
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> CW practice program?
[02:45] <bionoid> specialmoose: Oh I was thinking metacity. Not sure I quit using beryl because it bugs so much on my system :\
[02:45] <enviouz> i searched for like 3 hours looking for a frontend or gui based one.
[02:45] <madahnono> yo
[02:45] <AphGab> Does anyone have any experience with KVM's and Linux?  I cannot seem to use double-scroll lock tap to switch to the second channel....
[02:46] <llol> so anyways to make the network managers see the card again
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> AphGab: I am using one here
[02:46] <DanaG> Argh, naming collision -- I head KVM and thought of Qemu.
[02:46] <DanaG> Perhaps say "KVM Switches"
[02:46] <AphGab> Jack_Sparrow:  Are you having any issues with it?
[02:46] <AphGab> DanaG: ?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> My KVM switch works fine
[02:46] <DanaG> kvm - x86 emulator with CPU VT support
[02:47] <Stwange> are there any supported open source programs similar to vmware?
[02:47] <foxjazz> I need to purchase another monitor. One for linux, one for windows
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> AphGab: The timing of the keypresses is a bit slower
[02:47] <AphGab> I have a little two port Belking and I cannot switch to the second channel from within Linux....Windows switches fine.
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> AphGab: My switch uses break, break page-up
[02:48] <AphGab> Jack_Sparrow:  Does not seem to be working :(
[02:48] <madahnono> trop relou quoi
[02:48] <Wikkedfin^> i thought there was an xchat sysinfo script for xchat on ubuntu?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> AphGab: My cap lock needs to be for mine to work
[02:48] <Jamesinator> I'm trying to install a package that wasn't specifically designed for Ubuntu (psad), and it's trying to access /usr/bin/mail -- which is nonexistent. What package do I need to install to get /usr/bin/mail, or where is Ubuntu's equivalent to /usr/bin/mail?
[02:48] <bionoid> AphGab: Hit ctrl-alt-F1 and try from there (work-around though).. alt-f7 (iirc) will return you to X when you change back
[02:48] <bronze> Can anyone explain this to me? "# emerge -a app-emulation/wine" It doesn't work in terminall
[02:49] <dfwlinuxguy> jamesinator ..mailx
[02:49] <bionoid> bronze: Thats for a different distribution, gentoo, not ubuntu
[02:49] <Fathefner> anyone know about dreamlinux
[02:49] <Jamesinator> dfwlinuxguy: Thanks.
[02:49] <bronze> bionoid, what does it do and what can I do?
[02:49] <bionoid> bronze: apt-get install wine
[02:50] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> where's the configuration file for the graphical login screen? whenever i try to use the GUI login window config thing, it for some reason tries to load the login screen, which currently isn't working. (alternatively, if someone knows a simple command to restore the login window settings to default, that'd be great, too)
[02:50] <bronze> oh, I already have it, so that's it?
[02:50] <bionoid> bronze: would be, as far as I know, the equivalent in ubuntu
[02:50] <kitche> !offtopic | Fathefner
[02:50] <ubotu> Fathefner: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:50] <bionoid> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: /etc/[kx] dm*
[02:51] <kyled185> dfwlinuxguy: hey I think I finally fixed that particular issue I was having last night
[02:51] <madahnono> allez cassez vous tous
[02:51] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> bionoid, or gdm? :x
[02:51] <bionoid> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: or that ;p
[02:51] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i don't have kdm or xdm
[02:52] <dfwlinuxguy> kyled185 what was it?
[02:52] <Tachikoma> hello :D
[02:52] <Wikkedfin^> anyone have a good sysinfo script for xchat that works great with ubuntu amd64
[02:52] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> but currently, the process "gdm" is using about 94% of my CPU :x
[02:52] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i'm afraid to kill it
[02:52] <tck> hello
[02:52] <jeremysandau> Can somebody help me understand why I can't install Wine?
[02:52] <shiester_miester> {uX}l`VampyrCeil, dont kill it :P
[02:52] <shiester_miester> jeremysandau, whats your problem?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jeremysandau: How are you trying to do it?
[02:52] <kyled185> dfwlinuxguy: I ended up going to a tutorial online and re-writing my private domain zones and my named.conf
[02:52] <fiendskull9> tim__b: timmy?
[02:52] <tck> come across something annoying, upon starting say amsn, kopete or camorama it wont start webcam unless i run gksu on them
[02:53] <tck> was never like this
[02:53] <jeremysandau> I have tried to use the console, as well as Synaptecs, but no matter what I do it won't seem to install.
[02:53] <andrewkk> !fr | madahnono
[02:53] <ubotu> madahnono: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:53] <shiester_miester> jeremysandau, why not?
[02:53] <Stwange> where can I find installed packages? Not all of them are in Applications
[02:53] <kyled185> dfwlinuxguy: and then I haven't had the issue since, hopefully it will continue to work
[02:53] <shiester_miester> what happens when you try to install it?
[02:53] <tck> kyled185, synaptic
[02:53] <dfwlinuxguy> kyled185  I thought it might be a typo or something....glad you got it working..I was hanging around tonight to try to help you
[02:53] <fiendskull9> Tim "Precog" Bardon, you here?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Stwange: dpkg has a way to list those
[02:53] <jeremysandau> Pretty much nothing happens at all.
[02:53] <jeremysandau> It's as though nothing happens
[02:53] <shiester_miester> jeremysandau, no errer messages?
[02:53] <dfwlinuxguy> kyled185 you in tx?
[02:53] <shiester_miester> *error
[02:54] <jeremysandau> No error messages that I have seen.
[02:54] <kyled185> dfwlinuxguy: no, MO
[02:54] <shiester_miester> thats odd
[02:54] <orbisvicis> !submux-dvd
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about submux-dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <shiester_miester> jeremysandau, is there a .wine folder inside your home folder?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jeremysandau: Do you know how it works?  from terminal etc..
[02:54] <orbisvicis> !info submux-dvd
[02:54] <ubotu> submux-dvd: subtitle multiplexer, muxes subtitles into .vob. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0.0 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 120 kB
[02:54] <jeremysandau> let me check.
[02:55] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> hey, if i just delete /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom, will it try to load my login window with the default gdm.conf settings?
[02:55] <shiester_miester> you have to enable hidden folder viewing too
[02:55] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> or will it complain? :x
[02:55] <shiester_miester> {uX}l`VampyrCeil, you could always just change the login window settings using the configuration tool
[02:55] <fiendskull9> preco1: tim?
[02:56] <kyled185> dfwlinuxguy: perhaps you could answer a quick question though, I can't get "evansnet.com" to succeed in the nslookup, doing "www.evansnet.com" or any other sub-domain works however
[02:56] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> shiester_miester, when i try to load the configuration tool, for some reason it tries to show me the login window, which is currently "broken". then i get a black screen with a "waiting" cursor
[02:56] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> shiester_miester, atm, i'm only in a gui because i used startx from a tty :x
[02:56] <shiester_miester> :/ thats odd
[02:56] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> yeah, it is
[02:56] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> ;x
[02:56] <preco1> Hey, I got the "Fatal Error" "cannot install grub on hd0" when I choose manual installation during the partition selection
[02:56] <preco1> at the end of the installation
[02:56] <jeremysandau> As far as I can find, there is no .wine folder.
[02:56] <shiester_miester> preco1, do you have multiple hard drives
[02:56] <preco1> yes
[02:57] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> so you think it's safe to delete /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom? :x
[02:57] <preco1> i have 2
[02:57] <fiendskull9> jeremysandau: did you run winecfg?
[02:57] <Stwange> what's dpkg?
[02:57] <jeremysandau> No, I did not run winecfg.
[02:57] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> !dpkg
[02:57] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[02:57] <jeremysandau> Is that a terminal command?
[02:57] <fiendskull9> jeremysandau: run winecfg
[02:57] <Stwange> sorry I know a lot of these questions could be found through google
[02:57] <fiendskull9> it will creat the .wine folder and preferences
[02:57] <fiendskull9> *create
[02:57] <Aghaster> :) yeah, I got 3D acceleration :P
[02:57] <shiester_miester> preco1, try removing the one you arent installing on.  i have problems with installing ubuntu on systems with multiple drives
[02:57] <orbisvicis> anyone know how rebuild a vob as a vob (demuxing/muxing removes vobsubs) to fix the ending frames ?
[02:57] <jeremysandau> How do i "run winecfg" ?
[02:57] <shiester_miester> preco1, and then reconnect it once the installation is finished
[02:58] <fiendskull9> jeremysandau: in a terminal
[02:58] <fiendskull9> jeremysandau: its just a command
[02:58] <shiester_miester> jeremysandau, alt+f2, type "xterm", type "winecfg" in the terminal
[02:58] <jeremysandau> ah
[02:58] <fiendskull9> shiester_miester: ah, is he not in X?
[02:58] <jamie> anyone know how i compile RogueOMatic under Ubuntu?
[02:58] <shiester_miester> yeah he is, i assume
[02:58] <shiester_miester> he said he was in a gui
[02:58] <fiendskull9> jamie: ./configure , make, sudo make install
[02:58] <shiester_miester> and ubuntu has an xterm terminal
[02:59] <hooloovoo> nalioth: Are you there?
[02:59] <jeremysandau> fiendskull9, thank you very much.
[02:59] <fiendskull9> shiester_miester: nevermind, i confused myself, when you said alt+f2 i was thinking virtual terminals (as if he wasnt in an X server)
[02:59] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[02:59] <jamie> fiendskull: This doesn't have a configure script
[03:00] <fiendskull9> jamie: do you know what language its in?
[03:00] <preco1> i am using vista, xp, and ubuntu, and i need both drives, I can do a guided install fine, but now that i have xp and vista alrerady there, i need to know what to change hd0 to
[03:00] <Tachikoma> does anyone experienced problems using the latest version of ubuntu with an Ati card? :] 
[03:00] <jamie> fiendskull:c i believe
[03:00] <AphGab> Back again - 2 Port Belkin KVM switch is still not responding from within Linux.  I can use the mouse and keyboard, but cannot switch to my windows box (however, I can switch fto Linux from Windows).  The switch command is Scroll Lock x2 and Up or Down or Scroll Lock x2 and "1" or "2"
[03:00] <hooloovoo> Tachikoma: Yes
[03:00] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> !ati | Tachikoma
[03:00] <ubotu> Tachikoma: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <Jared> !sunbird
[03:00] <ubotu> Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[03:00] <Tachikoma> i got kernel panic at the first reboot
[03:00] <shiester_miester> fiendskull9, ANSI C, i heard (which is a variant or something)
[03:00] <Tachikoma> :] 
[03:00] <tck> im finding that when applications need access to /dev/video for my webcam, i cannot start it unless im root
[03:00] <tck> any ideas?
[03:00] <Jared> Does anyone know how I can install sunbird?
[03:00] <MajorPayne> How can I view the console when Ubuntu is booting?
[03:00] <Stwange> I think I found the dpkg command to list all installed packages, but what I want is a list of shortcuts to installed programs - Applications seems to do that to some extent but now it's stopped
[03:00] <tck> it was never like this
[03:01] <ocha> hello
[03:01] <orbisvicis> anyone know where to go to get help on vobs ?
[03:01] <fiendskull9> shiester_miester: ansi c is just a regulation "follow these rules" way of writing C code
[03:01] <kitche> tck: is your user part of video group?
[03:01] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Jared, they don't have linux binaries on mozilla's site?
[03:01] <tck> kitche, great suggestion i will try,
[03:01] <nalioth> hooloovoo: pong
[03:01] <AphGab> Back again - 2 Port Belkin KVM switch is still not responding from within Linux.  I can use the mouse and keyboard, but cannot switch to my windows box (however, I can switch fto Linux from Windows).  The switch command is Scroll Lock x2 and Up or Down or Scroll Lock x2 and "1" or "2."  Anyone have any ideas about how to fix this or get around it? (Alt+Ctrl+F1 / F7 did not work)
[03:01] <shiester_miester> MajorPayne, there is a command line argument that the recovery console uses.  i cant remember what it is, but take a look at the command line for recovery console, its under "kernel" i think
[03:01] <ocha> im finishing installing samba, but but i cant get this command to work "sudo chmod 0777 /media/samba"  whats another way of giving access to the files?
[03:01] <Jared> {uX}l`VampyrCeil, uhhh they have a download which is i think in a .tar.gz but I don't know what to do with that file
[03:02] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> !compile | Jared
[03:02] <ubotu> Jared: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:02] <shiester_miester> Jared, its an archive, like a zip
[03:02] <fiendskull9> ocha: making a user group and chowning(chgrp?)ing the directory
[03:02] <treyesh> i need help with sound?
[03:02] <ocha> fiendskull9: what do ya mean?
[03:03] <Jared> shiester_miester, I know that its an archive, I just don't know how to software from there. Thanks {uX}l`VampyrCeil I'm going to try that out
[03:03] <treyesh> i cant hear any sound
[03:03] <Tachikoma> there's nothing useful in that page for me :) i get kernel panic if i run gdm
[03:03] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Jared, the source file is stored in the tarball; you'll need to extract it, then cd to the folder the source is in and type ./configure, then make, then sudo make install
[03:03] <fiendskull9> ocha: you asked what was another way of ensuring correct access to /media/samba
[03:03] <fiendskull9> you could make a new group, and add all the samba users to it
[03:03] <fiendskull9> and just make sure that the new group owns the /media/samba dir
[03:03] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Jared, but some sources need other options and such to compile properly, so it's good practice to read the INSTALL file included with most source files
[03:03] <Jared> Thanks
[03:03] <ocha> fiendskull9, like when i type in that command line, it doesn't work
[03:04] <dr_zhivago> i've got balls of steeeeel
[03:04] <fiendskull9> ocha: chgrp might not exsist (im on windows currently)
[03:04] <treyesh> hi
[03:04] <Stwange> where do .deb installations get installed to?
[03:04] <fiendskull9> Stwange: where the deb file tells it to
[03:04] <treyesh> i cant hear any  sound on my laptop
[03:05] <ocha> fiendskull9:  "sudo chmod 0777 /media/samba"
[03:05] <MajorPayne> If I remove "splash" from the kernel line in menu.lst will that stop the Ubuntu splash screen from coming up?
[03:05] <fiendskull9> Stwange: most often /usr/shared/<application> for the main files, and the executable in /usr/bin
[03:05] <ocha> fiendskull9: "chmod: cannot access `/media/samba': No such file or directory
[03:05] <ocha> "
[03:05] <fiendskull9> ocha: sudo mkdir /media/samba
[03:05] <treyesh> HELP
[03:05] <Stwange> ok, and if I delete the .deb file afterwards, will this cause problems - just wondering because I'm going to have to use sudo to do it for some reason
[03:05] <foxjazz> hmmm... why doesn't foxnews play?
[03:05] <fiendskull9> Stwange: no problems at all
[03:05] <shiester_miester> Stwange, no it wont, the deb is just to install
[03:06] <preco1> fiend
[03:06] <fiendskull9> treyesh: you need to ask a question to receive help
[03:06] <fiendskull9> preco1: what sweetie bumpkins
[03:06] <treyesh> I need help setting up sound on my laptop?
[03:06] <fiendskull9> treyesh: errors, device names, we need this information to help.
[03:06] <Stwange> ok thanks, sorry for the all simple questions, just a lot to get to grips with
[03:06] <fiendskull9> preco1: you are typing at the speed of a snail
[03:07] <preco1> pm fool
[03:07] <shiester_miester> Stwange, thats ok, simple questions = simple answers
[03:07] <treyesh> no device drivers to detect
[03:07] <shiester_miester> theres nothing wrong with asking for help, this is a help channel
[03:07] <shiester_miester> you guys know what sucks ass about doing this
[03:07] <treyesh> im using realtek 67 audio card
[03:07] <shiester_miester> theres all those channels where people belittle others for asking for help
[03:07] <shiester_miester> so whenever they come in here they are all apologetic for asking, because they are scared of being treated like idiots
[03:08] <fiendskull9> shiester_miester: kind of like #perl
[03:08] <fiendskull9> ROFL
[03:08] <fiendskull9> preco1: check query pm
[03:08] <scary> If I am having trouble of installing my sound drivers, then rebooting and the drivers disappear, is this due to ubuntu volatile?
[03:08] <treyesh> hello
[03:08] <tck> thank you kelvie that worked, bizarre that i didn't have to do that before (also i had to reboot for changes to take effect)
[03:08] <shiester_miester> they should all GTFO and stick to yelling at school kids as they drive past
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: not to many people get belittled here, only when they wan tto be handheld through something
[03:08] <fiendskull9> you can rarely ask a question in #perl without a RTFM or GTFO
[03:09] <shiester_miester> i dunno, the other day we had a bunch of people in here who all had bees in their undies
[03:09] <shiester_miester> getting all pissed off at each other
[03:09] <scary> Is there a ubuntu volatile workaround?
[03:09] <foxjazz> ummm... why is the foxnews.com video screen just blank?
[03:09] <fiendskull9> mchsi :O
[03:09] <specialmoose> can anyone view break.com? videos are not loading up for me, ubuntu 7.04 64bit gnash installed (youtube works limited)
[03:09] <AphGab> I have a 2 Port Belkin KVM switch that is not responding from within Linux.  I can use the mouse and keyboard, but cannot switch to my windows box (however, I can switch fto Linux from Windows).  The switch command is Scroll Lock x2 and Up or Down or Scroll Lock x2 and "1" or "2."  Anyone have any ideas about how to fix this or get around it? (Alt+Ctrl+F1 / F7 did not work)
[03:10] <shiester_miester> specialmoose, yes i can view them fine
[03:10] <ocha> fiendskull9: it jsut make a dir
[03:10] <specialmoose> shiester_miester, running 64bit edition/
[03:10] <younghacker> anyone know where there is good documentation on sleuthkit?
[03:10] <fiendskull9> ocha: yes, and after doing mkdir /media/samba, you need to then chmod it with the previous command
[03:10] <mike-kubuntu> hey, i'm trying to use vsftpd to ftp into my comp trhough konqueror, the problem is that although i can ssh and ftp in through konsole via sftp and ssh for some reason when i attempt to ftp using konqueror with ftp://<ipadress> or firefox it send me an OOPS code 500 process died
[03:10] <shiester_miester> specialmoose, nope, flash has been known to not work properly in 64bit linux
[03:11] <iceportal> If anyone here is from the UK, please PM me, thanks
[03:11] <shiester_miester> i highly recommend that you use the 32bit edition
[03:11] <AphGab> Can I remap the purpose of my Scroll Lock key?
[03:11] <younghacker> and does anyone know if i can chmod my cdrom0
[03:11] <mike-kubuntu> pecialmoose: if you need help installing it theres a guide to use nspluginwrapper that works nicely
[03:11] <fiendskull9> younghacker: no
[03:11] <younghacker> aww man
[03:11] <shiester_miester> the 64bit version will be great in a year or so, when more software is compatible with 64bit architectures
[03:12] <younghacker> @ fiendskull9 how can i copy a disk image to a CD-R ?
[03:12] <foxjazz> younghacker: You just need to hackinto the cd_rom hardware to make it do what you want.
[03:12] <specialmoose> mike-kubuntu, yeah i was thinking about doing the guide on using 32bit in 64bit but figure (least i hope) 64bit will be done by then lol
[03:12] <shiester_miester> but at the moment it seems to just cause more problems that you need to "hack" your way around
[03:12] <fiendskull9> foxjazz: ROFL
[03:12] <younghacker> really, can u lead me in a direction @ foxjazz
[03:12] <mike-kubuntu> specialmoose: i don't have the adres right now but its worked for me on 3 different 64bit systems with the only flaw bieng that if i use it while using beryl it wont accept more than one mouse click without me moving my mouse
[03:12] <preco1> fiend, pms, you me, lets go
[03:12] <Stwange> ok I found the binary I just installed (TrueCrypt), and copied it to Applications, but when I run it nothing happens, this could be something to do with truecrypt itself, but I think it's more likely to be me doing this wrong?
[03:13] <ocha> fiendskull9,  i need to make access to it and so local network user could use it
[03:13] <fiendskull9> alright, im in my query window from here on, not replying to messages
[03:13] <foxjazz> younghacker: look on google for kernalhacker
[03:13] <AphGab> How do I remap what keys do in Linux?
[03:13] <mike-kubuntu> aphgab man xkbmap
[03:13] <AphGab> Danke
[03:13] <fiendskull9> AphGab: xorg.conf is a good start or xkbmap
[03:14] <fiendskull9> preco1: ARE YOU DEAD?
[03:14] <foxjazz> anyone know what plugin firefox uses?
[03:14] <specialmoose> mike-kubuntu, im thinking it might just be gnash screwing up
[03:14] <zeroc00l> hi guyz
[03:14] <foxjazz> I mean foxnews :D
[03:14] <mike-kubuntu> AphGab: its probably easier to do it through your wm
[03:14] <younghacker> kool @ fox thanks
[03:14] <preco1> are you gwetting my pms?
[03:14] <fiendskull9> preco1: nope
[03:14] <fiendskull9> preco1: type /query fiendskull9
[03:15] <mike-kubuntu> specialmoose: gnash is still prettey out of date, they just barely got it working with some vids last time i tried
[03:15] <AphGab> mike-kubuntu: ?
[03:15] <Stwange> No, the binary I installed into /usr/bin/TrueCrypt doesn't do anything at all, is it supposed to or am I looking in the wrong place for the executable?
[03:15] <mike-kubuntu> AphGab: depending on what your trying to do there might be an option to override it with a shortcut through kde's ckontrol center or the gnome equivalent, but the xkbmap will change it for everything
[03:16] <droglar> hello
[03:16] <orbisvicis> how-to repair a vob, anyone ?
[03:16] <droglar> can anyone suggest a good ftp client
[03:16] <AphGab> mike-kubuntu:  I'm trying to remap the purpose of Scroll Lock to do nothing- so that I can hopefully use it to control my KVM switch.
[03:16] <fiendskull9> droglar: ncftp
[03:16] <imc_> Hiya what files need I copy to get my thunderbird filters and addressbook over to a new install?
[03:16] <larson9999> it feels good to be a gangster
[03:17] <orbisvicis> or how do i search the /list command for certain channels/text?
[03:17] <shiester_miester> droglar, i use fireftp in firefox
[03:17] <ocha> how do i make permissions for "sudo chmod 0777 /media/samba"
[03:17] <LeoDioxide> AphGab: your kvm switch doesn't inherently grab scroll-lock?
[03:17] <shiester_miester> kvm switches do that?
[03:17] <imc_> ocha yo9u just did
[03:17] <shiester_miester> i thought you had to physically switch them
[03:17] <fiendskull9> shiester_miester: same, i didnt know about the fancy key binds
[03:17] <AphGab> LeoDioxide:  For some reason, Scroll-Lock does nothing in working with the KVM while I'm in Linux (however it works great in Windows)
[03:17] <ocha> imc_: it won't let me, is there another way of readin it
[03:18] <shiester_miester> i didnt even know you COULD use keybinds in them
[03:18] <shiester_miester> i thought it was just some wires and a switch
[03:18] <mike-kubuntu> AphGab: sorry for the confusion xkbmap is where to start
[03:18] <ceil420> can someone tell me where the gdm config file is again, please? i just crashed x a bit and can't remember the path :x
[03:18] <AphGab> shiester_miester:  All KVMs now use key presses - however many also have physical switches (no mine though
[03:18] <imc_> ocha that'sweird
[03:18] <shiester_miester> thats cool
[03:18] <pi3> is it common that i can't watch a video while having desktop effects on?
[03:18] <imc_> Anyone know what files I need  to get my thunderbird filters and addressbook over to a new install?
[03:19] <AphGab> mike-kubuntu:  is there an easy way to modify xkbmap?
[03:19] <kados_> pi3 : it has happened to me on some machines
[03:19] <AphGab> mike-kubuntu: nvm - figured it out.  Thx for your help.
[03:19] <kduboi1> pi3: its been known to happen with ati cards....
[03:20] <dr_zhivago> how do you know which people have ops on this network
[03:20] <kduboi1> pi3: i know theres a workaround, but i cant remember what i did
[03:20] <kduboi1> go ask in #ati
[03:20] <takerofforsakens> hello needin some help with ndiswrapper everything installed fine no errors but when i "ndiswrapper -l" it tells me invalid driver i got the driver from the ndiswrapper list using the lspci any idea
[03:20] <dr_zhivago> ?
[03:20] <ceil420> nm
[03:20] <dr_zhivago> how do you know which people have ops on this network
[03:20] <pi3> kduboil: i have an ati
[03:20] <pi3> ok
[03:20] <pili> hi, could someone help me with editing fstab? I'm used to kde or gnome tools, but this pc is running xubuntu
[03:20] <kados_> I can't stand ati with linux
[03:20] <mike-kubuntu> AphGab: np
[03:21] <kados_> everytime I have had hassels
[03:21] <shiester_miester> dr_zhivago, there arent any OPs in this channel
[03:21] <kados_> lol
[03:21] <shiester_miester> well, not at the moment
[03:21] <kados_> like this old dell c600
[03:21] <shiester_miester> start harassing people and you can make an OP appear though
[03:21] <fiendskull9> pili: open xfce-terminal, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:21] <kados_> the ati card and linux dont play nice lol
[03:21] <pili> I can not write under one partition in ext3
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[03:21] <pili> i'll pastebin
[03:21] <pili> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28175/
[03:21] <fiendskull9> pili: what are you wanting to change in your fstab?
[03:21] <takerofforsakens> anyone here have any luck with ndiswrapper with the atheros chipsaet
[03:22] <pili> fiendskull9> hda3
[03:22] <NKUMike> Does anyone know how to remedy this?   E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:22] <pili> i can only see it but not write
[03:22] <fiendskull9> well you have two entrys for it
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> coucou
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> a va ?
[03:23] <madahnono> ca va les pd?
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> :o
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> ils parlent pas :(
[03:23] <pili> pd ton pere
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> ils sont timides :$
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> pili
[03:23] <fiendskull9> pili: but i cant help you with fstab stuff.
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> a rime avec zizi
[03:23] <pili> pede ton pere
[03:23] <fiendskull9> im out guys
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> avec petit zizi aussi
[03:23] <trotrozoulie> :p
[03:23] <madahnono> lol pili
[03:24] <madahnono> t'es quebecois pili?
[03:24] <trotrozoulie> tin
[03:24] <trotrozoulie> tienne daho
[03:24] <trotrozoulie> il te ressemble vraiment 2a
[03:24] <madahnono> trop pas
[03:24] <madahnono> looool
[03:24] <pili> can anyone help me with fstab, dans quelque idiome
[03:24] <madahnono> negro
[03:24] <Jared> There is a french ubuntu channel...
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> oui
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> a l'est
[03:25] <pili> we're better here
[03:25] <Jared> /j #ubuntu-fr
[03:25] <sean__> im having some serious trouble with changing my screen resolution
[03:25] <Jared> I'm just saying, if you're gonna be speaking french, you should check that out
[03:25] <kados_> NKU : Ususally that is because another process is using the /var/lib/dpkg
[03:25] <madahnono> jared
[03:25] <madahnono> on s'en fout
[03:25] <kados_> like apt-get
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> oui
[03:25] <Jared> ...
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> on s'en fout royal
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> alors ferme la
[03:25] <Jared> ..
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> et laisse nous parler
[03:25] <madahnono> connard
[03:25] <kados_> or something else which is installing
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> laisse parler les grands
[03:25] <Jared> Je parle un peu de francais.
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> ok ?
[03:25] <DanaG> Question:
[03:25] <droglar> E: nsd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what is this error please
[03:25] <trotrozoulie> on te demande pas de parler un peu
[03:25] <Jared> Je ne suis pas tres bonne, mais je peu essayer
[03:25] <madahnono> jared
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> !fre
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> on te demande de le parler parfaitement
[03:26] <DanaG> I'm installing Dapper on some system, but the question "New partition size: is confusing.
[03:26] <madahnono> speak english here
[03:26] <Stwange> I can browse my partition /dev/sda1 by clicking a shortcut in Places, but when i try to get there with the terminal it says it's not a directory
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> non
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> francais here
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> DanaG: why are you install dapper?
[03:26] <Jared> ..
[03:26] <pili> je aussi, mais je demande aide avec le fstab!
[03:26] <Aghaster> allez demander de l'aide dans le channel franais ou aprennez l'anglais
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> francais partout dans le monde
[03:26] <pili> please
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> sinon
[03:26] <Aghaster> lol
[03:26] <DanaG> Is this asking for how large to resize something to, or how large the new one should be?
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> on vous dclare la guerre
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> ok ?
[03:26] <madahnono> a
[03:26] <madahnono> allez
[03:26] <sean__> can someone help me with my screen resolution
[03:26] <madahnono> on parle tous franais
[03:26] <Jared> Pour parler en francais, /j #ubuntu-fr
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> oui
[03:26] <Aghaster> ta yeule l'asti de franais
[03:26] <macd> !fr
[03:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:26] <pili> y espaol
[03:26] <DanaG> I'm installing Dapper because that's all that 'instlux' offers.
[03:26] <zabin> does a anyone know where the best tutorial for beryl to install beryl glx for an ati graphics card?
[03:26] <Jared> ...
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> non l'espagnol
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> c'est pour les pauvres
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> DanaG: instlux?
[03:26] <droglar> E: nsd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what is this error please
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> c'est une sous langue
[03:26] <madahnono> hey aghaster, si t'es pas sage on va t'envoyer chris benoit
[03:26] <DanaG> http://instlux.sf.net/
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> :)
[03:26] <trotrozoulie> chris :(
[03:27] <Aghaster> chris benoit?
[03:27] <zabin> does a anyone know where the best tutorial for beryl to install beryl glx for an ati graphics card?
[03:27] <trotrozoulie> la ecw y a perdu son homme le plus hardcore
[03:27] <c_> When I go to place>network I see Windows Network. What is it?
[03:27] <DanaG> Note that it got the grub settings wrong -- it put (hd0,0) but needed (hd0,1).
[03:27] <madahnono> chris benoit
[03:27] <Aghaster> faites juste parler anglais ici, sinon allez dans le channel franais.
[03:27] <madahnono> il va te pter la gueule
[03:27] <trotrozoulie> je te conseille le hd *0,2
[03:27] <Jared> c_ thats your windows network...
[03:27] <droglar> E: nsd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what is this error please
[03:27] <Aghaster> c'est pas si dur que a  comprendre
[03:27] <trotrozoulie> oui
[03:27] <trotrozoulie> on dirait des dialogues de 24
[03:27] <madahnono> lol
[03:27] <Jared> c_ do you have computers on your network that run windows?
[03:27] <DanaG> So, which is it asking for?
[03:27] <trotrozoulie> faut appeler chlo o'brien
[03:28] <pili> pode algunha pessoa ajudar co fstab?
[03:28] <c_> Jared: I never set up any network and there are no files in it. Also no Jared I have no network, just one single computer.
[03:28] <trotrozoulie> elle saura rpondre
[03:28] <DanaG> Will resize old partition to size X, or will resize old to something and make new of size X?
[03:28] <DanaG> It's very ambiguous.
[03:28] <trotrozoulie> trop oui
[03:28] <droglar> E: nsd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what is this error please
[03:28] <Jared> c_ I have absolutely no idea then :( If you're not using the network anyways, I wouldn't worry about it
[03:28] <trotrozoulie> on s'en fout
[03:28] <loco_aullador> hi could anyone tell me what is the distro with the higher number of packages?
[03:28] <Jared> higher number of packages?
[03:29] <madahnono> bon les pd
[03:29] <c_> Jared: I would just really like to know what it is and what it is doing there.
[03:29] <madahnono> ca fait longtemps que vous avez pas niqu?
[03:29] <darkskye> yo
[03:29] <trotrozoulie> je crois
[03:29] <trotrozoulie> qu'ils l'ont jamais fait
[03:29] <darkskye> i am trying to get foo-devel, apt-get ?
[03:29] <shiester_miester> dammit, im having problems networking 2 ubuntu pcs
[03:29] <Jared> c_ sorry then, I can't really help :(
[03:29] <madahnono> l'amour?
[03:29] <zabin> does a anyone know where the best tutorial for beryl to install beryl glx for an ati graphics card?
[03:29] <trotrozoulie> le mot vagin, a vous dit quelque chose ?
[03:29] <c_> Jared: Should I go to the forums?
[03:29] <madahnono> comment on dit puceau en anglais?
[03:29] <shiester_miester> dammit stop with the french
[03:29] <loco_aullador> Jared,  yes um maybe i didnt say it correctly, the distro with more packages available
[03:29] <Aghaster> des moments comme ceux-ci me rappellent pourquoi je suis fier d'tre qubcois et pas franais
[03:29] <trotrozoulie> lol
[03:29] <trotrozoulie> il te faut peu
[03:30] <madahnono> chris benoit aussi etait fier
[03:30] <AphGab> Actually....Can anyone tell me how to modify xkbmap...?  Thought I had it figured out, but don't....
[03:30] <Stwange> I can browse my partition /dev/sda1 by clicking a shortcut in Places, but when i try to get there with the terminal it says it's not a directory, so I can't search it etc.
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> les noirs aussi sont fiers
[03:30] <jerky> what package contains man pages for functions like memset or bzero?
[03:30] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/42532
[03:30] <madahnono> lol
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> bon
[03:30] <madahnono> c'est des losers
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> on peut parler de trucs interessants ?
[03:30] <madahnono> les quebecois
[03:30] <shiester_miester> veuillez ne pas parler franais dedans ici. veuillez parler anglais, ou allez au canal franais
[03:30] <madahnono> ils servent a rienn
[03:30] <darkskye> english?
[03:30] <madahnono> dedans ici
[03:30] <shiester_miester> >:D
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> non
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> le canada
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> c'est francais
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> c'est tout
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> si t'es pas content
[03:30] <madahnono> you are french
[03:30] <trotrozoulie> va en angleterre
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> ou aux usa
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> mais le canada
[03:31] <madahnono> so speak french
[03:31] <darkskye> english please
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> c'est a nouveau francais
[03:31] <darkskye> i am trying to get foo-devel, apt-get ?
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> c'est tout
[03:31] <Nutubuntu> !fr
[03:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:31] <AphGab> Frenchies, please speak English here.
[03:31] <madahnono> non
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> non
[03:31] <madahnono> on parle francais
[03:31] <madahnono> et on t'emmerde
[03:31] <milardovich> je ne parle francaise :P
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> la france a repris le canada
[03:31] <Nutubuntu> !ops
[03:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:31] <mykhul> i have ubuntu installed on my pc.. (i love it) .. but i would like to install windows xp as wel... is it possible to dual boot even though ive got ubuntu installed first
[03:31] <shiester_miester> je ne parle pas franais, j'emploie http://babelfish.altavista.com
[03:31] <Aghaster> shiester: I'm afraid we got a bunch of french people who want to fuck with people in here about the language being used
[03:31] <milardovich> hablo espaol xD
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> en fait, on a t lancs en claireur
[03:31] <LeoDioxide> it's jen ne parle pas....
[03:31] <andrewkk> is there a reason for the stubbornness?
[03:31] <trotrozoulie> sarkozy prpare une attaque pour demain
[03:31] <rob> Nutubuntu, huh?
[03:31] <Nutubuntu> hi rob
[03:31] <madahnono> jen ne parle pas looool
[03:32] <Infinito_> where are the ops ?
[03:32] <madahnono> nutubunutubuntunutubuntuntutunubuN
[03:32] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit xkbmap?
[03:32] <Aghaster> I don't know, but I suggest you use /ignore
[03:32] <darkskye> i am trying to get foo-devel, apt-get ?
[03:32] <DanaG> Wow, I hit enter after entering new size, it resizes right then and there.
[03:32] <DanaG> No confirmation.
[03:32] <Nutubuntu> t/y Amaranth
[03:32] <sn-> mykhul yes you can dual boot with ubuntu installed first, you will need to recover grub after installing windows, as it wipes the mbr without asking
[03:33] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit xkbmap?
[03:33] <Dreamglider> does anyone have problems with installing Feisty fawn on a dell inspiron 9400 ?
[03:33] <sn-> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to get grub back after installed
[03:33] <shiester_miester> damn frenchmen
[03:33] <Dreamglider> i get an error with the screen settings
[03:33] <shiester_miester> im going to france soon...i hope its not full of stooges -_-
[03:33] <Aghaster> don't count me in those, I'm from Quebec :P
[03:33] <andrewkk> Dreamglider: i had cd troubles on an inspiron
[03:33] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  enough, okay? They're gone and we're back on topic.
[03:33] <shiester_miester> yes yes
[03:34] <Dreamglider> x cant startup and then it asks me to change the xorg settings
[03:34] <shiester_miester> of course
[03:34] <LeoDioxide> must....maintain....status....quo....
[03:34] <Dreamglider> andrewkk i tried multiple cds, but i get the same error.
[03:34] <theBishop> hi, does anyone know about a script like the "Orange Ubuntu" that makes Feisty look sexier?
[03:34] <darkskye> i am trying to get foo-devel, apt-get ?
[03:34] <qisault> I am having trouble locating a working link for the 6.06 Alternate CD.
[03:34] <shiester_miester> theBishop, use beryl, it doesnt get much sexier than that
[03:34] <Ssalaroli> ol a todos
[03:34] <LeoDioxide> beryl
[03:34] <shiester_miester> not this again
[03:34] <Dreamglider> i tried to download the alternat version but i still cant start ubuntu
[03:35] <Ssalaroli> akgum brasileiro ai
[03:35] <Nutubuntu> !es
[03:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:35] <Nutubuntu> !pt
[03:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:35] <specialmoose> how do i edit the menu when you right click on a file?
[03:35] <theBishop> shiester_miester, i'm already using it, but i've seen Youtube videos that look more consistent and prettier than my desktop
[03:35] <Ssalaroli> #ubuntu-br
[03:35] <andrewkk> Dreamglider: i didn't run across anything like that. just had to disable some feature to get it to load the installer correctly. was an older inspiron though.
[03:35] <shiester_miester> really? id like to see those too
[03:35] <shiester_miester> can you show me, theBishop
[03:36] <Dreamglider> andrewkk i manage to install ubuntu but i cant start it.
[03:36] <andrewkk> Dreamglider: sorry, i don't know what to tell you then.
[03:36] <Dreamglider> it says that xorg settings need to be configured
[03:36] <shiester_miester> dammit im having some trouble networking 2 ubuntu PCs, i'd like a hand.  they seem to refuse to see each other
[03:36] <Dreamglider> i have no idea what to do.
[03:36] <LeoDioxide> shiester_miester: are you on the same subnet?
[03:37] <At0mic_P1> Linux is funny to me because if you don't do something for a while you forget how to do it and the have to learn all over again.
[03:37] <shiester_miester> LeoDioxide, on both computers its set to automatically configure...i havent given them a subnet
[03:37] <shiester_miester> do i need to manually configure networking to get it to work?  that seems a bit silly :/
[03:37] <At0mic_P1> Irssi for example. I have to figure out how to edit the config from inside to change a channel entry heh.
[03:37] <LeoDioxide> shiester_miester: try setting it up manually, ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5 and then pick another number for the other computer
[03:37] <shiester_miester> yeah, ok
[03:38] <LeoDioxide> if you're pulling from a dhcp server, you should be fine though
[03:38] <cotyrothery> can someone tell me why after i restarted my computer i could not get an internet connection but now that im in live cd i can
[03:38] <shiester_miester> im using 2 ethernet devices, i dont know which one is which :/
[03:38] <shiester_miester> one of them goes to my modem and the other goes to the other computer
[03:38] <shiester_miester> oh well, I'll turn one off and see what happens :P
[03:38] <LeoDioxide> shiester_miester: directly?
[03:38] <specialmoose> how do i edit the menu when you right click on a file?
[03:38] <shiester_miester> LeoDioxide, yes
[03:38] <shiester_miester> 2 crossover cables
[03:38] <shiester_miester> one to the modem and another to the other computer
[03:38] <LeoDioxide> ....2?
[03:38] <Nutubuntu> one surely?
[03:38] <LeoDioxide> the one to the modem was direct I thought?
[03:39] <cotyrothery> I dont want to reinstall ubuntu
[03:39] <shiester_miester> oh well then i guess its not
[03:39] <cotyrothery> it would be the 6th time this week
[03:39] <HamHamT> hi
[03:39] <shiester_miester> 2 network CABLES in any case
[03:39] <LeoDioxide> well, its important that the cable between the computers be crossover, otherwise you won't see each other
[03:39] <HamHamT> How do you manually run an application?
[03:39] <shiester_miester> well the thing is they DID see each other for a moment
[03:39] <shiester_miester> but now they dont
[03:39] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  'ifconfig' should return information about all interfaces on the computer
[03:40] <shiester_miester> thank you very much, Nutubuntu
[03:40] <shiester_miester> very helpful :D
[03:40] <cotyrothery> come on why cant my internet connect
[03:40] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit xkbmap?
[03:40] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  if you already knew that, my apologies; IDK what you know or don't know :)
[03:40] <shiester_miester> certainly not everything
[03:40] <ponicg> LeoDioxide, are you sure they have to be standard cables? I'm pretty sure that most new nic cards will do the swap themselves if it's not in the pairing they like
[03:40] <shiester_miester> really? thats awesome
[03:40] <cotyrothery> so this is going to be the 7th time i had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:41] <cotyrothery> man that sucks
[03:41] <shiester_miester> back in my day you had to have crossovers or it didnt work
[03:41] <[DARKLiGHT] > cot: have you tried just physically switching the cables around?
[03:41] <LeoDioxide> I've never seen a $20 NIC swap for different pairings
[03:41] <shiester_miester> when i wore a younger mans clothes, lol
[03:41] <Nutubuntu> lol
[03:41] <cotyrothery> unless someone can tell me why i cant connect to the internet
[03:41] <foxjazz> Hey, I am using swiftweasel32... anyone know how to install flashplayer with this?
[03:41] <LeoDioxide> cotyrothery: wireless?
[03:41] <cotyrothery> no
[03:41] <cotyrothery> wired
[03:41] <shiester_miester> cotyrothery, it seems to me like you are connected to the internet just fine
[03:41] <LeoDioxide> yeah, seriously >.>
[03:41] <cotyrothery> yea in live cde
[03:41] <cotyrothery> cd
[03:41] <LeoDioxide> did you set up resolv.conf correctly?
[03:41] <foxjazz> cotyrothery: looks likey your connected to me
[03:41] <AphGab> cotyrothery:  What issues are you having?
[03:42] <sasi> helo friends
[03:42] <cotyrothery> not my connectiong
[03:42] <cotyrothery> i cant connect when i run ubuntu
[03:42] <cotyrothery> i can from ubuntu live cd
[03:42] <Nutubuntu> cotyrothery,  can you run 'ifconfig' on the interface that is not connecting to the internet, and then pastebin the output?
[03:42] <LeoDioxide> hold ,n, beryl screwed up
[03:42] <Zorak> connect to what?
[03:42] <shiester_miester> ok that ifconfig command has informed me that "eth1" is the one connected to the internet, because it has transferred 6mb of data and the other has transferred 140kb
[03:42] <AphGab> cotyrothery:  In your installation, what errors are you getting?  For someone to help you, you'll have to provide a lot more information
[03:42] <cotyrothery> well i would have to leave live d
[03:42] <santims> I am having difficulties switching between workspaces, whenever i switch from workspace 1 to any other one i lose my 'task bars' and can not get them back or switch back to workspace one.  basically i need to do a hard reboot in order to do anything with my computer.  can anyone help me out with this?????
[03:42] <Stwange> cotyrothery: I had a similar problem earlier because my wired wasn't set to roaming
[03:42] <cotyrothery> cd
[03:43] <HamHamT> Can somebody help me going around running an application manually?
[03:43] <shiester_miester> santims, does ctrl+alt+left/right switch workspaces for you?
[03:43] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  the configuration that you're having the issue with is the other, then? if I understood correctly?
[03:43] <cotyrothery> so i need to run ifconfig
[03:43] <bronze> what do I need to install to get totem player support for stream x-asf audio
[03:43] <sn-> nn
[03:43] <shiester_miester> Nutubuntu, yes, so ill manually configure eth0
[03:43] <santims> shiester_miester:  i am not sure, but i am scared to try that because if i do ill probably need to do another restart
[03:44] <cotyrothery> ok im going to exit live cd
[03:44] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  should work ... as long as eth0 is on the same network as your other box with which it's sharing a cable
[03:44] <cotyrothery> and run ifconfig
[03:44] <shiester_miester> santims, you have to do that anyway, so whats the difference?  you have nothing to lose
[03:44] <kinalas> hi to all
[03:44] <shiester_miester> Nutubuntu, yes i assume it is
[03:44] <shiester_miester> ill have to manually configure it on the other box too
[03:44] <kinalas> can i ask something
[03:44] <kinalas> new to ubuntu
[03:44] <Zorak> so does anyone find humor in the fact that I can synch my 3rd generation iPod but not my nano?
[03:44] <Nutubuntu> okay, shiester_miester - you know what addresses and s/n mask you're going to use?
[03:44] <santims> shiester_miester:  ha, yes that does work switching between workspaces, but once im in another workspace it is basically useless to me
[03:45] <andrewkk> kinalas: ask away.
[03:45] <shiester_miester> hey if i put "gateway address" in as THIS computer on the OTHER computer, will that enable it to do internet connection sharing, using this computer as a gateway
[03:45] <LeoDioxide> if you set up the routing table
[03:45] <shiester_miester> yay
[03:45] <Zorak> get something to work shiester?
[03:45] <kinalas> how can i restart my network interface (after changing the ip) without restarting my pc
[03:45] <LeoDioxide> nobody chooses linux because it's easy
[03:45] <shiester_miester> Nutubuntu, ill use 192.168.0.1 for IP and 255.255.255.0 as subnet, ok?
[03:45] <foxjazz> anyone work vpn with ubuntu?
[03:46] <Zorak> nope
[03:46] <shiester_miester> LeoDioxide, amen to that
[03:46] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit XKBMAP or where I can find it to edit it?
[03:46] <voltagex> kinalas: use the network manager, or use the ifconfig command
[03:46] <Nutubuntu> kinalas,  sudo ifdown <interface> then sudo ifup <interface>
[03:46] <Zorak> LeoDioxide: most of us choose Linux because we're bored
[03:46] <voltagex> Zorak: bored of other OSes.
[03:46] <foxjazz> Zorak, soooo true
[03:46] <LeoDioxide> I chose linux because my windows partition nuked after a new bios, yay.
[03:46] <shiester_miester> or because we want to show off to users of other OSs
[03:46] <LeoDioxide> no more games!
[03:46] <pili> hi, couls someone look at this fstab and tell me what is wrong? i can not write under hda3 and is in ext3 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28175/
[03:46] <DanaG> Bye-yuzz
[03:46] <Zorak> I just needed a summer "hobby"
[03:46] <DanaG> .
[03:46] <santims> i use linux because i am inbetween macs
[03:46] <kinalas> whats the command for ifconfig
[03:46] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  should be fine; then use .2 (or anything <.255) and same mask for the other
[03:47] <foxjazz> say mac, what you mean ?
[03:47] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit XKBMAP or where I can find it to edit it?
[03:47] <santims> so how do i get my 'taskbar' back in other workspaces
[03:47] <shiester_miester> this is why i use linux http://www.xkcd.com/c272.html
[03:47] <shiester_miester> :D
[03:47] <foxjazz> macs suck way worse than windows.  I mean the order so far is  Linux then Windows then Mac
[03:48] <specialmoose> anyone know a program to let someone to type in my ip address and view my webcam?
[03:48] <Zorak> yeah
[03:48] <Zorak> and apple software is dead to me
[03:48] <santims> foxjazz:  that is something i have never heard anyone say my entire life
[03:48] <Zorak> I used iTunes in highschool thinking it was great
[03:48] <andrewkk> specialmoose: there's something called motion that does stuff like that.
[03:48] <Zorak> went to linux and realized I wanted to stab my apple-intern friend
[03:49] <foxjazz> Zorak: LOL LOl LOL
[03:49] <AphGab> Can anyone tell me how to edit XKBMAP or where I can find it to edit it?
[03:49] <fluvvell> I'm looking for the name of the channel for gparted, anyone know what it is?
[03:49] <ofarevolution424> hello
[03:49] <ponicg> AphGab, What are you trying to do?
[03:50] <specialmoose> last question, why is it that some programs, i cant move them ie i click on the top window bar but doesnt allow me to drag or even close it
[03:50] <Zorak> so basically I'm booting into windows every afternoon and using a program to convert m4p files to mp3
[03:50] <Zorak> ahh virtual burner software
[03:50] <droglar> is anyone that can help me please
[03:50] <ofarevolution424> i'm having trouble with my laptop speakers can someone maybe help?
[03:50] <AphGab> ponicg: Remap what Scroll Lock does - so that I can hopefully use my KVM from within Linux...
[03:50] <Dezine> I want to update to gutsy from feisty, can I?
[03:50] <pollyo> Hello
[03:51] <Zorak> but the only issues I'm having so far with ubuntu is that I've lost the ability to synch my iPod nano (but it's not working in windows either) and there are no drivers for my printer
[03:51] <fluvvell> I'm looking to try to move an nt-partition to a new starting position on the drive...
[03:51] <pollyo> Anyone using ubuntu/firefox on myspace?
[03:51] <ponicg> AphGab, I'm not 100% sure but you can check xorg.conf
[03:51] <Zorak> but my printer cost less than the price of an ink cartridge
[03:51] <ponicg> pollyo, I have.
[03:51] <ofarevolution424> i have pollyo
[03:51] <droglar> is anyone that can help me please
[03:51] <pollyo> ponicg: Any luck with uploading photos?
[03:51] <shiester_mieste> blarg
[03:51] <AphGab> ponicg: To find the file?
[03:51] <shiester_mieste> heh, seems like i accidentally changed the wrong device -_-
[03:51] <foxjazz> Zorak: I don't print anything anyway. And as far as IPOD, just goto www.slacker.com
[03:51] <younghacker> is there a program that can resample mp3 files and make them sound better?, if there is will it work on other file formats as well ?
[03:51] <Nutubuntu> !ask | droglar
[03:51] <ubotu> droglar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:51] <ofarevolution424> has anyone ever had there ubuntu make odd sounds in the speakers?
[03:51] <ponicg> pollyo, it worked fine.
[03:51] <shiester_mieste> lol im a stooge
[03:52] <droglar> E: nsd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what is this error
[03:52] <shawn34> Is there anything comparable to Avidemux2?
[03:52] <Zorak> younghacker: mp3 is lossy
[03:52] <Zorak> compression
[03:52] <shiester_mieste> now to change them on the other computer...brb
[03:52] <Zorak> there is no way to "recover" what is already gone
[03:52] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  if I had a buck for every time I've felt like that ... ;)
[03:52] <pollyo> ponicg: Using the flash uploader?
[03:52] <LeoDioxide> ogg ftw
[03:52] <ofarevolution424> when i hook up head phones the sounds come normal but when i just do speaker it sounds very odd any ideas?
[03:52] <shiester_mieste> i feel that way every time i do some coding and i spend half an hour trying to find a missing }
[03:52] <santims> is there any way to get the bars back on my other workspaces?
[03:52] <droglar> E: nsd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what is this error
[03:52] <Zorak> change the EQ setting?
[03:52] <younghacker> i see, so what would you suggest if there were audio files in mp3 format that u wanted to salvage and store
[03:52] <ofarevolution424> no it's not that
[03:53] <foxjazz> ofarevolution424: get an amplifier
[03:53] <ofarevolution424> it worked before
[03:53] <Zorak> hmm?
[03:53] <ofarevolution424> this is a random problem
[03:53] <ofarevolution424> could it be a bug or virus?
[03:53] <Zorak> younghacker: define salvage?
[03:53] <fluvvell> droglar: did you just install a program?
[03:53] <ofarevolution424> i'm new to ubuntu
[03:53] <Zorak> I mean... you can't exactly "restore" the bits you've already thrown-away
[03:53] <droglar> every program i try to install I get that
[03:53] <Zorak> the only way is to completely start over with the raw audio
[03:53] <Zorak> either off a CD or something that promotes a high sampling rate
[03:54] <younghacker> i guess like say if their was "air" in the music or it wasn't as crisp as it could be, is there a way to try to remaster them using some software?
[03:54] <andrewkk> Zorak: hydrogenaudio.org has a lot of good information on audio quality stuff
[03:54] <Zorak> hmm
[03:54] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  I *highly* recommend something that'll syntax-highlight and find those missing brackets and parens for ya ...
[03:54] <Zorak> I mean... I've spent a few quarters in college studying audio
[03:54] <ofarevolution424> anyone ever had problems with speakers?
[03:54] <fluvvell> droglar: If you get NSD errors when launching the script, this is because of your printers
[03:54] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, yeah thats the problem...it does have that.  hence why i feel like a stooge
[03:54] <AphGab> Does anyone know how to edit keymappings in Linux?  I want to change the Scroll Lock key to do absolutely nothing...
[03:54] <droglar> I have no printers on my system at all
[03:54] <Zorak> and the general consensus is unless you're some highly trained musician or audio engineer you're not going to notice a difference between mp3 lossy compression and lossless
[03:54] <younghacker> i only ask cause i know linux has a myriad of software available
[03:55] <shiester_mieste> AphGab, it does something? :/
[03:55] <Zorak> mp3 compression throws away bits
[03:55] <silvertip257> my pc will not boot past a limited shell / ash ... I need help.
[03:55] <gaten> how do you reset the defaults in the Keyboard shortcut configuration?
[03:55] <andrewkk> oops zorak, that hydrogrnaudio.org link was meant for younghacker
[03:55] <shiester_mieste> ok ive set it on the other computer, but they dont seem to be seeing each other on the network >:@
[03:55] <AphGab> schiester_mieste:  open a console..press scroll lock and attempt to type :)
[03:55] <Nutubuntu> Ah :) I repeat, shiester_mieste,  if I had a buck for every time I've felt like that ... I'd /nick PhilAnthro ;)
[03:55] <pili> What packages do i need to watch divx?
[03:55] <Bob_Dole> Young, Linux has lotssss of software..but it isn't all easily available to every distro
[03:55] <Zorak> it decreases the sampling rate and only leaves in the core of bits representing the human aural spectrum in terms of frequency and intensity (dB)
[03:55] <fluvvell> droglar: that is the problem, whatever you tried to do requires a default printer.
[03:55] <Bob_Dole> and that makes me :(
[03:55] <Zorak> however, it could be that your mp3 codec just sucks
[03:56] <younghacker> hmm i get it, so i would have better off having them in another compression format in the first place huh? lol
[03:56] <shiester_mieste> how can i get rid of shiester_miester, who was left here when i disconnected?
[03:56] <droglar> hmmm that is wierd i mean anythign i try to install gives me that error
[03:56] <shiester_mieste> impostor!
[03:56] <AphGab> Does anyone know how to edit keymappings in Linux?  I want to change the Scroll Lock key to do absolutely nothing...
[03:56] <Zorak> younghacker: mp3's sound really good for the size of the file
[03:56] <Dezine> nvm I found my answer on the web!
[03:56] <droglar> I was trying ot install xine that needs a printer
[03:56] <fluvvell> droglar: have you tried apt-get autoremove
[03:56] <Zorak> but if you want to hear every dang thing in the file you would need to keep them in a lossless format
[03:56] <Zorak> such as wav or aif
[03:56] <Zorak> when you "obtain" them
[03:57] <younghacker> so it comes to a give and take balance then?
[03:57] <Zorak> however, you'll find that these files get huge
[03:57] <Zorak> usu. if you're going to be doing lots of audio processing you import your files as a wav or aif
[03:57] <Zorak> process the hell out of it
[03:57] <Zorak> then degrade the quality to cover up any little mistakes you've made
[03:57] <Zorak> by converting down to an mp3 or something
[03:58] <shiester_mieste> anybody got any ideas as to how i can debug this networking problem
[03:58] <droglar> yes iut does nothing man
[03:58] <Zorak> anyways... this kitchen ain't cleaining itself
[03:58] <silvertip257> Zorak:  isn't that the use of the ogg audio format?
[03:58] <Zorak> more tha likely
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  can you pastebin the ifconfig output for each one? It'd be easier if we could look at them
[03:58] <Zorak> *than
[03:58] <silvertip257> just a thought
[03:58] <silvertip257> later
[03:58] <Zorak> I'm not really up to date on linux filetypes
[03:58] <foxjazz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-QfLJbEN3k&mode=related&search=
[03:58] <Zorak> but I'm sure ogg would work great for that
[03:58] <lidden> Can I tell my ubuntu to upgrade itself to 7.04 or do I have to burn a CD?
[03:58] <Zorak> hmm
[03:58] <Zorak> should be able to get the update
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> lidden, upgrade from what version?
[03:58] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, certainly, gimme a sec to get it
[03:58] <lidden> 6.06
[03:58] <Zorak> through the update manager
[03:59] <droglar> I think  I am gonna run x86 version instesad of 64bit
[03:59] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen :(
[03:59] <foxjazz> the youtube works, but foxnews don't.... Any ideas.
[03:59] <younghacker> i see, is there like some documentation that i go check out on the various music formats, the link was broken, this very interesting
[03:59] <foxjazz> droglar: good choice... I am sticking to my 64bit
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> foxjazz: there's a plugin to make foxnews work..
[03:59] <Nutubuntu> <== hoist with my own petard, I can't remember which 6.06 was -- you should be able to go from Edgy to Feisty, but not from Dapper, I believe
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> hold on.
[03:59] <LeoDioxide> foxjazz: wait, you got youtube to work? how'd you do that?
[03:59] <foxjazz> it's not difficult to download 32bit browsers.
[03:59] <droglar> u running the 64bit version
[04:00] <foxjazz> Easy  I am using 32bit browser.
[04:00] <LeoDioxide> eh
[04:00] <foxjazz> let me find the link...
[04:00] <LeoDioxide> that'd be a good idea
[04:00] <lidden> dapper drake 64 bit
[04:00] <fluvvell> Anyone familiar enough with gparted to have moved a partition downwards on a hard-drive?
[04:00] <foxjazz> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[04:00] <LeoDioxide> thanks
[04:00] <Solid> hi, anyone managed to run pcsx2?
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> foxjazz: read the post by phlippant   http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?p=862987
[04:00] <droglar> should i keep running 64bit or x86 version?
[04:00] <foxjazz> youtube works great, just run that script: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[04:01] <shawn34> Is there anything comparable to Avidemux2?
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> droglar: i'd run 32bit if i were you.
[04:01] <Stwange> most of the files in /usr/bin don't actually open, I want to open a program I recently installed but I have no idea how to
[04:01] <droglar> may I ask why
[04:02] <Oni-Dracula> is there any difference between the nVIDIA driver directly from nvidia's website and the one downloaded from an ubuntu repo?
[04:02] <IndyGunFreak> droglar: less hassle, some things for 64 or fine, other things(like web browser plugins), require jumping throught he hoops of making a 32bit browser work on you 64bit distro.
[04:02] <foxjazz> IndyGunFreak: nice post but where's here
[04:02] <IndyGunFreak> droglar: do what you want, just don't say i didn't warn you.
[04:02] <IndyGunFreak> foxjazz: wheres here?
[04:02] <fluvvell> droglar: no huge advantage in speed with the 64bit, and some drivers and program issues.
[04:02] <droglar> ok
[04:03] <LeoDioxide> but I can now crunch number 64 bits large!
[04:03] <LeoDioxide> my ALU has a 128 bit register!
[04:03] <shiester_mieste> LeoDioxide, you can do that in 32bit cpus as well, just not natively in the cpu :P
[04:03] <IndyGunFreak> 64bit, to me, just wasn't worth the hassle... so i'll stick with 32bit for the forseeable future.
[04:03] <foxjazz> IndyGunFreak: Yea i clicked on your link and it says can be found here. But no link.
[04:03] <shiester_mieste> you just have to do it with some fancy coding
[04:03] <lidden> Ok. Thanks
[04:04] <Nutubuntu> I ran across a reason to avoid 64bit today - it's not capable of handling file systems > 1TB. Who knew?
[04:04] <LeoDioxide> it makes a big difference when you talk about supercomputers and clusters
[04:04] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, and 32bit can? thats odd :/
[04:04] <LeoDioxide> Nutubuntu: that isn't inherent in the 64-bit register set up
[04:04] <foxjazz> IndyGunFreak:   I am a 64 dude all the way.  X64 isn't worth the hassle
[04:04] <AphGab> Does anyone know how to edit keymappings in Linux?  I want to change the Scroll Lock key to do absolutely nothing...
[04:04] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  yes, and yes, it is odd - yes to both
[04:04] <IndyGunFreak> foxjazz: did you read the post by phlipant?.. install greasemonkey, then follow the userscripts link.. i just chekced htem, and they work fine
[04:04] <shiester_mieste> LeoDioxide, indeed, cos doing large-scale processing all in the cpu is always faster than doing it with fancy code
[04:04] <foxjazz> I mean windows x64
[04:04] <Nutubuntu> LeoDioxide,  no, it's a kernel issue; right now the 64b kernel doesn't support that large a fs while, oddly, the 32b does
[04:05] <younghacker> how do i get movies and stuff to work in mozilla browser?
[04:05] <tank-man> AphGab, look at xmodmap
[04:05] <AphGab> tank-man: How?  What do I do to edit it, etc....?
[04:05] <LeoDioxide> shiester_mieste was that sarcasm?
[04:05] <Pelo> younghacker,  remove totem-mozilla and intall mplayer-mozilla
[04:05] <AphGab> tank-man: Any help would be VERY greatly appreciated
[04:05] <shiester_mieste> LeoDioxide, no it wasnt
[04:05] <Nutubuntu> Or rather, the 32b kernel *can* if compiled with the right option - which isn't supported in the 64b kernel at all
[04:05] <retour> where I can find more fonts for Ubuntu and how to install them?
[04:05] <LeoDioxide> I was confused...
[04:05] <shiester_mieste> it is most definitely faster to do it in the registers than to program 64bit code manually
[04:06] <Bob_le_Pointu> Does someone tried Sauerbraten with an ATI card, and have the "X Freeze on exit" bug ?
[04:06] <LeoDioxide> I should hope so
[04:06] <shiester_mieste> i mean to program 64bit operations in 32bit code
[04:06] <Pelo> retour,   menu >system > admin > synaptic ,  search : fonts
[04:06] <tank-man> AphGab, i'm new to ubuntu, i dont know of any gui
[04:06] <younghacker> @ Pelo how do i do this?
[04:06] <LeoDioxide> oh right
[04:06] <Nutubuntu> retour, you can install them in ~/.fonts - where you find them I don't know - what fonts are you looking for?
[04:06] <shiester_mieste> Bob_le_Pointu, people USE sauerbraten?
[04:06] <AphGab> !? :(
[04:06] <|AC|> ver irc.blackened.com
[04:06] <shiester_mieste> Bob_le_Pointu, i thought it was just a little experimental graphics engine
[04:06] <Pelo> younghacker, menu > system > admin > synaptic  , use the search function
[04:06] <Bob_le_Pointu> shiester_mieste: I was planning to use it, but it's quite unplayable with ATI cards.
[04:06] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, http://pastebin.com/940277
[04:06] <AphGab> tank-man:  I can work through console / terminal...just need to know the location to edit xmodmap, etc...
[04:07] <Nutubuntu> t/y shiester_mieste - wait one ...
[04:07] <retour> Nutubuntu: Working in inskscape and I miss Futura and other space age styles
[04:07] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (alternatively, if there's a way to safely remove gdm and still be able to log in to X; i can live without a graphical login)
[04:07] <shiester_mieste> dont worry about it, its seroiusly lame
[04:07] <Bob_le_Pointu> Wu
[04:07] <shiester_mieste> not u, Nutubuntu i was talking to Bob_le_Pointu
[04:07] <shiester_mieste> sauerbraten.  its not very good, at all
[04:07] <shiester_mieste> the quake 3 engine runs rings around it, and that was like, 5 years ago
[04:07] <LeoDioxide> ceil420 have you removed gdm as your default login manager for your username?
[04:07] <Nutubuntu> n/p, shiester_mieste :)
[04:07] <tank-man> AphGab, just google xmodmap
[04:07] <shiester_mieste> but discussion of graphics engines is OT
[04:07] <ceil420> LeoDioxide, not to my knowledge, but if you know how, i'll try it :x
[04:08] <shiester_mieste> and we all know what happens to people who talk about OT things...
[04:08] <LeoDioxide> ceil420: I did it on accident the other day...
[04:08] <Bob_le_Pointu> Sure, let's only talk about ATI proprietary driver :)
[04:08] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  are you sure on that addy? it's taking forever to load...
[04:08] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, does anyone know why my ubuntu installation freezes while it is loading just prior to when I install it from my RAM?
[04:08] <shiester_mieste> yeah it loads on mine
[04:08] <Nutubuntu> oops, sorry, shiester_mieste  - got it now
[04:08] <shiester_mieste> although it did take a while for some reason
[04:08] <ceil420> LeoDioxide, i know that when i startx from a tty, gdm uses 96% of my CPU; and when i kill it, i get a blank screen, like what happens when it tries to load the login screen in the first place (with a "waiting" cursor)
[04:08] <shiester_mieste> nooooooooooooooo
[04:09] <retour> Pelo: There are no designers font packages there. Should I add any extra repositories??
[04:10] <LeoDioxide> ceil420 check out /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:10] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  I don't see an IPv4 addy on the second box eth0 interface - nor on the first box eth0 interface
[04:10] <Pelo> retour, designer fonts ?  msfonts are there isnT' that enough ?
[04:10] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, yeah i just noticed...whats with that?
[04:10] <Pelo> retour,  see if all the repos are enabled , somewhere in the menues
[04:10] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, does anyone know why my ubuntu installation freezes while it is loading just prior to when I install it from my RAM?
[04:10] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a way to find out what proprietary drivers I may be using? IIRC, there was a tainted tag in the kernel modules
[04:10] <retour> msfonts? installed as default?
[04:10] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  that would seem to bear on the problem ;)
[04:11] <Pelo> retour,  not part of the default
[04:11] <ceil420> LeoDioxide, /usr/sbin/gdm
[04:11] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, i most definitely configured the eth0 device on this computer to have a manually-configured ip addy and subnet mask
[04:11] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  when you configured an IP on these interfaces, did you bring them down and back up with the new IP? sudo ifdown and sudo ifup
[04:12] <cardanto1> hey -- i have a wierd ubuntu network error. i restarted my computer and i have internet access, but not from an ip my router is giving me. any thoughts?
[04:12] <hp__> what was the swedish #ubuntu -se
[04:12] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, no i didnt, will do it now
[04:12] <LeoDioxide> yeah, I dunno what to do from there, I'm in the same boat
[04:12] <foxjazz> THAT WORKED GREAT!
[04:12] <foxjazz> thanks
[04:12] <retour> Pelo: No such thing as msfonts in my Synaptic
[04:12] <cute_bettong>                      that alsa-info.sh file? i want to get to you that
[04:12] <cute_bettong>                      information but it simply will not run for me..it tryed
[04:12] <cute_bettong>                      ./alsa-info.sh no go permission denied... i tryed sudo
[04:12] <cute_bettong>                      ./alsa-info.sh and it says command not found...i even
[04:12] <cute_bettong>                      tryed the chmod -x alsa-info.sh and nothing...i really
[04:12] <cute_bettong>                      want to help you
[04:12] <cute_bettong> oh for hells sake
[04:12] <cute_bettong> stupid irssi
[04:12] <cute_bettong> sorry about htat
[04:13] <mcolli> does anyone know where i can get help with gnome-panel and applets?
[04:13] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, i get a weird error when i do that: "RTNETLINK ANSWERS: File exists.  Run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd exited with return code 2"
[04:13] <hp__> what was the swedish #ubuntu -se
[04:13] <LeoDioxide> foxjazz: pfft, the script didn't install the flash plugin
[04:13] <cardanto1> sudo ifdown eth0 and then up doesn't help
[04:13] <hp__> #ubuntu-se
[04:14] <hp__> #ubuntu-se
[04:14] <shiester_mieste> cardanto1, were you talking to me? :/
[04:14] <foxjazz> LeoDioxide: The script worked great for me... Remember you have to run a 32bit browser.
[04:14] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, does anyone know why my ubuntu installation freezes while it is loading just prior to when I install it from my RAM?
[04:14] <foxjazz> And the author suggested swiftweasel32
[04:15] <LeoDioxide> foxjazz: yeah, firefox32
[04:15] <JeffH> are there any issues with installing Ubuntu in a Parallels VM?
[04:15] <Pelo> retour,   gsfonts , gsfonts-other , a bunch of files starting with ttf ,  but you are right , I can'T find what I think was called  ms core fonts
[04:15] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, i tried it again and it worked this time :/
[04:15] <foxjazz> LeoDioxide: well it works fine with swiftweasel for me.
[04:16] <Aghaster> how can I disable the automatic loading of gdm at boot?
[04:16] <Nutubuntu> Oh, good - because now my eyebrows can find their way gently back down again ... I was still looking at that earlier error msg, shiester_mieste :)
[04:16] <retour> Pelo: Thank you for right names starting my search
[04:16] <Pelo> retour, you can also drop most other font files you have in  /home/user/.fonts and they will become available to you
[04:16] <Pelo> I think
[04:17] <cardanto1> anyone able to help me with a "simple" networking problem (moderate newbie)
[04:17] <Nutubuntu> retour,  there's a big fonts resource at http://cg.scs.carleton.ca/~luc/fonts.html
[04:17] <Pelo> !fonts | retour
[04:17] <ubotu> retour: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:17] <Nutubuntu> somafm, shiester_mieste - do they talk to each other now?
[04:17] <andrewkk> !ask | cardanto1
[04:17] <ubotu> cardanto1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:18] <Nutubuntu> whoops ... sorry somafm - that was meant to be, "so, shiester_mieste" etc.
[04:18] <CyberMad> does anyone here ever tried automount shared folder with fstab?
[04:18] <Pelo> cardanto1,  you are more likely to get an answer if you ask a specific quesiton, asking for help doesn't get you any
[04:19] <CyberMad> i tried //172.168.100.200/Document /home/user/Desktop/Document smbfs username=Guest,password= 0 0     then save it
[04:19] <cardanto1> ubotu -- here is the problem:  i have an ip of 71.191.225.67, but my router only gives of the type 192.168.1.xxx. now i can't see my ubuntu box from the rest of the network. ifup and down don't solve the problem.
[04:19] <CyberMad> then i tried umount -a  then mount -a  and it works.. but problem when i restart the computer
[04:19] <Pelo> Wikkedfin^,  what do you want ?
[04:19] <cardanto1> (yet i still have internet access)
[04:19] <andrewkk> CyberMad: i'd recommend against using smbfs; it's known to be pretty buggy. use cifs instead.
[04:19] <Wikkedfin^> my xchat to work right
[04:20] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, new ifconfig output attached to bottom of the pastebin
[04:20] <shiester_mieste> although pastebin seems to be REALLY slow right now
[04:20] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  what was that addy again? I'm sorry; I closed that tab
[04:20] <wyggler2> how do i get ubuntu to show icons of the desktop for mounted drives? my removable drives and ntfs partitions show up when mounted and go away when umounted.  How do I get my vfat partitions to do the same?
[04:20] <CyberMad> yes it hung... after restart my computer, i can not open the mounted folder
[04:20] <Pelo> Wikkedfin^,  well don't rely on the ctcp you just sent me, I block stuff like that
[04:20] <cal> after changing xorg.conf, i have GDM coming up okay in 1920x1080, but as soon as i log in, it appears to try to change resolutions again?? because my monitor switches to "Cannot display Mode" .. any ideas?
[04:20] <CyberMad> andrewkk so, how to use cifs on fstab?
[04:20] <shiester_mieste> im waiting for pastebin to load the pages -_-
[04:21] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  you could use the pastebin at paste.ubuntu-nl.org if that's faster
[04:21] <shiester_mieste> yeah ok
[04:21] <Pelo> wyggler2,   gconf-editor  /apps/nautilus/desktop ,  there is a box to check in there
[04:21] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28176/
[04:22] <shiester_mieste> the new stuff is attached after the old output
[04:22] <Nutubuntu> t/y shiester_mieste - wait one ...
[04:22] <shiester_mieste> k
[04:22] <andrewkk> CyberMad: //172.168.100.200/Document /home/user/Desktop/Document cifs guest 0 0
[04:22] <shiester_mieste> hmm i just noticed that they can ping each other
[04:23] <Nutubuntu> aha!
[04:23] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  the pastebin cuts off after the updated info on the first computer, but if they can ping each other, you're basically home and dry :)
[04:23] <shiester_mieste> but they dont see each other in the network !
[04:24] <shiester_mieste> blarg
[04:24] <CyberMad> andrewkk thanks :)
[04:24] <wyggler2> Pelo: thanks.  will try that right now.
[04:24] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  "see each other" how? If they can ping each other, they see each other in the sense of being correctly configured to live on the same network and talk to each other. At higher levels, you may have to do stuff but basically at this point they see each other.
[04:25] <andrewkk> CyberMad: np
[04:25] <shiester_mieste> yeah i know
[04:25] <cardanto1> o.k., i have a wierd ip from my router that is not in the mask my router is giving. i can see the internet fine, but can't see any other computer on the network. it is like i am directly hooked up bypassing my router. if i reset my router (as in unplug) the problem is solved. any thoughts what might be causing this?
[04:25] <CyberMad> andrewkk do i correct, i need to create folder on desktop named with "Document" ?  well, i did that..
[04:25] <shiester_mieste> what i mean is, they dont show up in the network places area
[04:25] <CyberMad> i just want to make sure
[04:26] <andrewkk> CyberMad: yes, you have to make the folder you're mounting it to before the share can actually be mounted.
[04:26] <RustySford> sooo I'm thining of doing a dual boot. when I set up the partitoin table do I set the first 130 GB that has my eniter widows partition to be /windows and then just have the swap and home directories after that? Sorry if I'm not clear enough on what I mean not to linux savvy
[04:26] <RustySford> it's one drive only one I have
[04:27] <shiester_mieste> wait a second...the other computer doesnt have windows sharing (SMB) installed...would that stop it from working
[04:27] <mathias_schnell> Does anyone know if there are any drivers for the Nvidia GeForce 8 series yet?
[04:27] <Pelo> RustySford, do you already have windows installed ?
[04:27] <RustySford> yeah
[04:27] <shiester_mieste> i try to share a folder and the only option is "do not share"...what the crap
[04:27] <CyberMad> andrewkk yes :) right now i restarting my ubuntu.. will see whether it sucess or not
[04:27] <erstazi> I have apache2 running on Ubuntu. Ubuntu's apache depreciates httpd.conf for apache2.conf and I am trying to kill the .htaccess file and its not working anywhere I try even within /sites-available or apache2.conf
[04:27] <shiester_mieste> isnt there a "linux" way of sharing :/
[04:28] <RustySford> It's a 160 and very well defraged. two partition currently under just windows. one 127 and a 27
[04:28] <RustySford> just was gonna set the first 130 just to be safe
[04:28] <Pelo> RustySford,  defrag a few times, backup ,  then boot the ubuntu live cd,  in menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor,   rezise the NTFS parition  to the size you want,  install ubuntu on the unallocated space
[04:28] <retour> OK almost 40MB of selected fonts. But a lot of fonts will slow down my system or it doesnt matter????
[04:28] <RustySford> the windows is on the 127 and I use the other partition for downloads. but I wanna convert the 27 to just have ubuntu
[04:28] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: it's called NFS. people don't use it as much on ubuntu though so you're not going to get quite as much support with it. my recommendation is to stick with samba.
[04:28] <erstazi> retour, having many fonts will slow down your system
[04:28] <shiester_mieste> i thought SMB stood for samba
[04:28] <CyberMad> wow.. thanks a lot andrewkk :) it works very well with cifs
[04:29] <bloodytux> hello, i just installed a new Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my desktop and it has 160 updates, but no update to 6.10... do i need to install the 160 first?
[04:29] <Pelo> RustySford,  just move your stuff off hte 27 gig partition and clear it in gnome parition manager,  install ubuntu to the unallocated space
[04:29] <RustySford> ahhh Pelo just to be sure is it the same utility under feisty? cause I looked around for it and couldn't find any partitioning software
[04:29] <retour> thank you erstazi
[04:29] <RustySford> it's already cleared pelo :)
[04:29] <erstazi> retour, best suggestion is to try it out, the most I notice is a bit longer start up
[04:29] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: samba is just one implementation of SMB. check out wikipedia.
[04:29] <gnu^^> [lipeangra] : vc por aqui?
[04:30] <shiester_mieste> in any case, why isnt there ANY way of sharing files by default?  it seems a bit silly
[04:30] <Pelo> RustySford, then just run the installed and install on that partition,  when asked whrer to install step 2 I think ,  just go to manual and select that partition
[04:30] <lipeangra> [gnu^^] : hehe
[04:30] <gnu^^> [lipeangra] : se eu comear a falar portugus vc fica mais feliz?
[04:30] <Pelo> RustySford,  or maybe it is guided ,  It's been a while
[04:30] <RustySford> guess I'll check again..I'll boot to nix and come back if I need help
[04:30] <TiMiDo> gnu^^ ubuntu-br
[04:30] <erstazi> shiester_mieste, security
[04:30] <shiester_mieste> so file sharing doesnt even exist, at all
[04:30] <bloodytux> ??
[04:30] <TiMiDo> gnu^^ #ubuntu-br
[04:30] <gnu^^> [TiMiDo] : vc tb  br?
[04:30] <gnu^^> hehe
[04:30] <shiester_mieste> you have to actually download file sharing...?
[04:30] <|Jason8|> shiester_mieste, filesharing between computers?
[04:30] <shiester_mieste> yeah
[04:30] <|Jason8|> as in... network sharing?
[04:30] <shiester_mieste> right click a folder and click "share this folder" - thats what i mean
[04:31] <RustySford> Pelo: yeah I did it a while back easily enough on 6.06 but they changed the install proceedure a bit and it's not the same
[04:31] <|Jason8|> or as in... like torrents and stuff?
[04:31] <|Jason8|> Oh, okay.
[04:31] <|Jason8|> Places > Network
[04:31] <Pelo> shiester_mieste,  you need samba I believe
[04:31] <|Jason8|> but yes
[04:31] <|Jason8|> you need to install samba.
[04:31] <RustySford> brb if I need it though.
[04:31] <gnu^^> a gente tb pode falar portugus, no pode?
[04:31] <|Jason8|> which is really a quick download
[04:31] <Pelo> RustySford,  mostly the same,  just a few extras ,
[04:31] <shiester_mieste> yeah i figured that now, but i was previously under the impression that samba was for sharing with windows or something
[04:31] <|Jason8|> oh.
[04:31] <shiester_mieste> it just seems a bit silly that you have to download file sharing :P shouldnt something like that come standard?
[04:31] <Anony1111> erm, i've royally farked up... does anyone know how to recover from this: "invalid compressed data, kernel panic unable to mount root on unknown block"
[04:32] <|Jason8|> OMG KERNEL PANIC.
[04:32] <dr_willis> shiester_mieste,   Samba  could be considered a security risk. and its a service - so its not installed by default.
[04:32] <Anony1111> :(
[04:32] <Anony1111> bad day  :\
[04:32] <shiester_mieste> oh ok, that makes sense, thanks dr_willis
[04:32] <Pelo> Anony1111,  what did you do ?
[04:32] <|Jason8|> I had that once.
[04:32] <|Jason8|> it was on a fresh install
[04:32] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: SMB isn't -only- for windows. it's just known for that because it happens to be what windows uses.
[04:32] <|Jason8|> I just reformatted.
[04:32] <Anony1111> i just tried to run usplash and it restarted and ... that's it
[04:32] <dr_willis> shiester_mieste,  check out the 'samba-doc' package also. 2 books on using samba (in html format)
[04:32] <shiester_mieste> ah ok
[04:32] <retour> erstazi: in old Windows (3.11 95 etc) a lot of onts were plugging system memory available for apps. How it is in Debian? I dont care about long boot times
[04:33] <Anony1111> I JUST finished setting up the system like i wanted it, i don't wanna reformat  :(
[04:33] <Bob_le_Pointu> Is there a way to open a deb package as if it was a classical archive ? (i.e. TAR)
[04:33] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (alternatively, if there's a way to safely remove gdm and still be able to log in to X; i can live without a graphical login)
[04:33] <Pelo> Anony1111,  thre is probably an easy way to solve this but I donT' know what it is,  you can always boot the live cd,   backup your /home  and reinstall
[04:33] <erstazi> retour, honestly, I have about 20mb of fonts, I don't notice anything different from a fresh install...
[04:33] <shiester_mieste> well my problem at the moment is that i cant download samba because that computer has no internet connection :(
[04:33] <shiester_mieste> ill try and set up some connection sharing and see if that works...
[04:33] <erstazi> shiester_mieste, you can burn the deb to cd
[04:33] <shiester_mieste> erstazi, then i could also put it on a usb stick, which i have one right here :D
[04:34] <shiester_mieste> but ill just see if i can get internet connection sharing working first, then i dont have to do anything
[04:34] <Anony1111> well, i'm going to go try that and i'll get back to ya!  :D
[04:34] <Pelo> ceil420,  if you donT' get an answer here, try in the fourm
[04:34] <erstazi> retour, I think if your computer has some of the latest (past 5 years) of computer technology, you will be fine (:
[04:34] <Anony1111> Pelo, thanks  :D
[04:34] <erstazi> shiester_mieste, that works also
[04:34] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: i
[04:34] <Pelo> shiester_mieste,  samba should be on the instalation cd
[04:34] <zombor_> can anyone help me out with a problem, my wireless router broke, but now it works, but my wireless doesnt work with my ubuntu, when i try manually connecting with wpa_supplicant, it says "*** stack smashing detected ***: wpa_supplicant terminated"
[04:34] <|Jason8|> wut?  FIrefox 3.0?
[04:35] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: ...'m not sure about it, but you should look into if it's on the ubuntu cd.
[04:35] <Deputy_Rowe> anyone know if there is a seperate kubuntu channel anywhere?
[04:35] <Pelo> zombor_,  if no one here can help try the forum
[04:35] <Pelo> Deputy_Rowe, #kubuntu
[04:35] <ceil420> Pelo, i hate text-only web :x i can't imagine navigating ubuntuforums with it
[04:35] <younghacker> how do i register my username?
[04:35] <shiester_mieste> thanks for all this help, guys
[04:35] <Pelo> ceil420,  try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <erstazi> ceil420, its how I test for web accessibility, lynx ftw!
[04:36] <Pelo> younghacker,   /nickserv help
[04:36] <cal> after changing xorg.conf, i have GDM coming up okay in 1920x1080, but as soon as i log in, it appears to try to change resolutions again?? because my monitor switches to "Cannot display Mode" .. any ideas?
[04:36] <retour> erstazi: My latest technology is PIII550Mhz + 386 MB of RAM hehe
[04:37] <erstazi> retour, I think you should be fine even so with that
[04:37] <Pelo> cal, search for the exact error msg in the forum
[04:37] <ceil420> Pelo, thanks, tryin' that now
[04:37] <younghacker> hmmm thats not working for me @ PElo
[04:37] <|Jason8|> retour, sounds like me :p
[04:37] <Nutubuntu> younghacker,  /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:37] <erstazi> retour, the only time I notice any "burp" is when I load photoshop with my millions of fonts on ubuntu
[04:37] <|Jason8|> I had a 450 MHz AMD K6-2 with 384.  Ran ubuntu real nice.
[04:37] <cal> pelo: didnt see an error
[04:38] <ceil420> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[04:38] <erstazi> |Jason8|, thats when you put Xubuntu on there (:
[04:38] <retour> I'm fine now even Google Earth is quite usefull with Nvidia card and only slow internet connection gives me burps
[04:38] <younghacker> how do i know if it worked @ Pelo
[04:38] <ceil420> is the "identifier" for my card "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200"?
[04:38] <Pelo> cal, ah,  look up your monitor model then see if other ppl have this issue
[04:38] <andrewkk> how do you browse fonts when you have so many? just scroll through openoffice's list forever? or is there a better way of doing it?
[04:38] <|Jason8|> erstazi, I can't stand fluxbox.
[04:38] <erstazi> |Jason8|, eh, its nice sometimes
[04:38] <retour> erstazi: How I can run Photoshop under Ubuntu????
[04:38] <Nutubuntu> andrewkk,  you'll want something like gfontview
[04:38] <Pelo> younghacker,   that /nickserv help msg was to get you the info you wanted , it's not actualy registering you
[04:38] <cal> pelo: it worked fine in debian
[04:39] <erstazi> retour, well, if you know how to registry hack with wine
[04:39] <|Jason8|> erstazi, if it had a standard taskbar, it'd be fine.  but it's too... meh.
[04:39] <erstazi> or buy crossover
[04:39] <Pelo> cal, I'm just a noob and I am no good with hardware issues , I'm just trying to point you to resources that might help
[04:40] <retour> erstazi: I dont know how to make PHP happy through the registry modification unless there is a webpage explainig how
[04:40] <erstazi> retour, or you could buy crossover but a simple google search can pull up how to configure photoshop on ubuntu/debian
[04:41] <erstazi> retour, I don't remember the website address nor do I have it bookmarked
[04:41] <retour> erstazi: Thank you very much for giving me right vectors  :D
[04:41] <erstazi> no problem (:
[04:42] <cocoflan> https://launchpad.net/cocoflan
[04:42] <cocoflan> https://launchpad.net/cocoflan
[04:42] <cocoflan> https://launchpad.net/cocoflan
[04:43] <Bob_le_Pointu> STFU
[04:43] <erstazi> Bob_le_Pointu, please omit from swearing
[04:43] <darwin81> I booted Ubuntu from the Desktop CD and my mouse is not working.
[04:43] <Nutubuntu> cocoflan,  don't spam the channel please
[04:43] <andrewkk> will ubuntu complain if i add or remove network cards, or will it figure out the changes automatically?
[04:43] <wyggler2> Pelo: That didn't do it.  It did,  however, allow me to toggle the ones that are currently shown on the desktop.  It also shows an elephant full of useful settings for me to experiment with.  Do you think it might be a setting in my fstab?
[04:44] <retour> OK installation started. Need to give more resources to Synaptic. Thank you for help!
[04:45] <darwin81> I booted Ubuntu from the Desktop CD and my mouse is not working.
[04:45] <dr_willis> darwin81,  you mean it is not working in the livecd?
[04:46] <shiester_mieste> ok i followed this guide to setting up internet connection sharing http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but one of the steps didnt work.  when i try to do "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" it just tells me "permission denied", even if i use sudo.  what to do?
[04:46] <shawn34> is it safe to turn off the 'nfs-common' and 'nfs-kernel' processes if im not sharing any files with another computer?
[04:47] <tgm4883_laptop> How would I go about updating my DVD drive firmware if all HP gives me is a .exe file and I have no windows computer?
[04:47] <Wikkedfin^> wine?
[04:48] <[DARKLiGHT] > risky :/
[04:48] <shiester_mieste> err...i wouldnt do that
[04:48] <orbisvicis> very risky
[04:48] <tgm4883_laptop> Wine does seem risky
[04:48] <mzuverink> I moved my lamp server with openshsh, now it says that my keys are bad, how do i fix this, I did change the ip of the machine
[04:48] <shiester_mieste> no, just for updating firmware
[04:48] <shawn34> i wouldn't use wine to do that
[04:48] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: do a "sudo -s -H" for a root shell, run the command, then exit
[04:48] <orbisvicis> tgm4883_laptop, get a freedos livecd and run it from that
[04:48] <shiester_mieste> andrewkk, do you mean run "sudo -s -H" as a command by itself?
[04:49] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: yes. that will give you a temporary root prompt.
[04:49] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks orbisvicis, hadn't thought of that
[04:49] <shiester_mieste> thanks andrew :D
[04:49] <shiester_mieste> worked fine
[04:49] <darwin81> I booted Ubuntu from the Desktop CD and my mouse is not working.
[04:50] <shiester_mieste> do i need to re-run any of the steps in that guide once ive done that?
[04:50] <[DARKLiGHT] > orb: erm would it be wise to be running off a livecd while updating the cddrives firmware?
[04:50] <mzuverink> any idea on the ssh key issue anyone?
[04:50] <nwbie> I need some help on this problem: "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0446, should be 0440" how can I fix it?
[04:50] <NeoRex> darwin81, boot up the CD and then when the desktop loads, unplug your USB mouse and plug it back in, it might work. If your mouse is PS/2, dont try this tip.
[04:50] <shiester_mieste> it would be wiseer to update the firmware from the OS that its meant to be run from
[04:50] <shiester_mieste> *wiser
[04:51] <tgm4883_laptop> mzuverink, check in your home directory for .ssh (hidden folder).  The key should be kept in there, and if you delete it, you should be prompted to accept the new key
[04:51] <Stwange> I have /dev/sda1 as NTFS, and I can access it but when I try to copy pictures over, it won't let me saying they are JPEG with plaintext source or something, but when I try to access SDA1 through gksu nautilus, it won't let me saying "no application is known for this type of file." when I try using the terminal (so I could sudo it), it says it's not a directory... how do I get around this?
[04:51] <andrewkk> shiester_mieste: i don't think so, but i'm not positive.
[04:51] <kazi> @newbi you mean chmod?
[04:51] <mzuverink> thk!
[04:52] <shawn34> is it safe to turn off the 'nfs-common' and 'nfs-kernel' processes if im not sharing any files with another computer?
[04:52] <NeoRex> shawn34, NFS is for talking to a Novell File Server.
[04:52] <nwbie> @kazi yes!!!, I'm not very familiar with permissions yet
[04:52] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28177/
[04:53] <SAM_theman> I having a error Install may 8.5.1 update
[04:53] <shawn34> NeoRex, so its cool to turn that off, right? cause im not doing that
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> NeoRex, isn't NFS Network File System?
[04:53] <NeoRex> shawn34, NFS = Novell File System*
[04:53] <SAM_theman> !vmware
[04:53] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:53] <shiester_mieste> yay! i got the interpipes working on my pice of junk
[04:54] <Stwange> any idea on transferring files from NTFS?
[04:54] <Nutubuntu> :)
[04:54] <SAM_theman> I having a error Install may 8.5.1 update
[04:54] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28177/
[04:54] <shiester_mieste> Stwange, do you mean just copying files from an NTFS partition to a different partition?
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> NeoRex, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_File_System_%28protocol%29 no?
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> although it should still be ok to turn off
[04:54] <SAM_theman> Now I think apt is screwed up
[04:55] <darwin81> I booted Ubuntu from the Desktop CD and my mouse is not working.
[04:55] <shrimants> i cant get my nvidia 8400m gs to work. i tried the nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new, and the installer provided by nvidia
[04:55] <shrimants> the first 2 dont work and the one provided by them wont install it
[04:55] <FunnyLookinHat> darwin81, what mouse do you have?  I've heard of that happening with a few wireless mice
[04:55] <shrimants> it keeps getting massive erros
[04:55] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (alternatively, if there's a way to safely remove gdm and still be able to log in to X; i can live without a graphical login)
[04:56] <shrimants> errors*
[04:56] <Stwange> shiester_mieste: I wrote the actual problem not long back. I want to copy images from NTFS to my linux partition, but everytime I try it says I need superuser or something, but when I try using gksu or sudo, they can't access the NTFS partition at all
[04:56] <shawn34> NeoRex, im not following, so are you saying I can turn it off or I shouldn't
[04:56] <ceil420> (reconfiguring xserver-xorg didn't help)
[04:56] <bloodytux> How do I edit sources.list file? what's the edit command?
[04:56] <darwin81> Can I use a keyboard as to control the cursor?
[04:56] <shiester_mieste> Stwange, thats rather stwange :P
[04:56] <Stwange> :)
[04:56] <Stwange> annoying too heh
[04:56] <shiester_mieste> actually, its "wather stwange"
[04:56] <ceil420> bloodytux, it's a plaintext file; use your favourite text editor with superuser priveledges
[04:56] <shiester_mieste> or even "thtwange"
[04:57] <Stwange> this could get to the point where I don't understand what you're saying anymore
[04:57] <bloodytux> How do I open a text editor with superuser?
[04:57] <bloodytux> What's the terminal command?
[04:57] <FunnyLookinHat> darwin81, there might be a way to....  but I wouldn't suggest it.  If your mouse isn't workin on the LiveCD then it wont work on a full install probably
[04:57] <FunnyLookinHat> bloodytux, gksudo gedit
[04:57] <shiester_mieste> bloodytux, sudo gedit [filepath] 
[04:57] <shiester_mieste> gksudo?
[04:57] <ceil420> i thought it was gksu
[04:58] <bloodytux> i use gksudo
[04:58] <sparr> the ubuntu clamav packages complain to my cron logs (and thus my email) that they are out of date.  is this a bug?  i dont want to know if there isnt a new package yet
[04:58] <shiester_mieste> yeah gksudo opens a little box thing
[04:58] <FunnyLookinHat> shiester_mieste, yes, you use gksudo for a GTK app
[04:58] <dawn_> i have a question about pidgin.. i can't seem to change the font that i'm using.. how do i change it?
[04:58] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  gksudo for gui apps, see http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[04:58] <FunnyLookinHat> shiester_mieste, can cause issues otherwise   : )
[04:58] <Recon> hey everyone
[04:58] <shiester_mieste> oh really?
[04:58] <FunnyLookinHat> !hi | Recon
[04:58] <ubotu> Recon: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:58] <shiester_mieste> i use sudo for everything, lol :$
[04:59] <Recon> i guess this is a pretty common thing to say
[04:59] <zombor_> can anyone help me out with my wireless, whenever i try and use wpa_supplicant, i get a stack smashing detected and it core dumps
[04:59] <JeffH> Is there a graphical package manager that is installed with Ubuntu?
[04:59] <Ha1> Hello #Ubuntu. I have a question for everyone, and would be most grateful for any help.
[04:59] <Recon> but i got a problem
[04:59] <darwin81> Can I use a keyboard to control the cursor?
[04:59] <ceil420> JeffH, Synaptic
[04:59] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming
[04:59] <Tazdevil> sudo is a pain i just su to root then I cna everything form there without adding sudo to the command
[04:59] <macogw> hi
[04:59] <JeffH> thanks.  is it gonna be a pain to switch to using KDE?
[04:59] <Ha1> Specifically, when I type my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes
[04:59] <macogw> ack
[04:59] <gokee2_> I have a broadcom internal network card, I am trying to get it working with ndiswrapper and it does....  The problem is this laptop is for a new user and they don`t want to type "dhclient eth1" into a terminal to get on the internet....  I have a extra card I have been using some and it works great with the built in network manager.  The internal card is seen by networkmanager and it even puts my network in the list for the card. However if I
[04:59] <gokee2_> hit connec it fails...  Anyone know how I can make the manager work?
[04:59] <ceil420> Tazdevil, not such a pain when you just need it for one command :p
[04:59] <macogw> ok the downside of focusfm
[04:59] <Stwange> is there a different way to access the mounted partitions? Instead of going through /dev/sda1 - am I looking in the wrong place?
[05:00] <Tazdevil> ceil420: You are right there you got me
[05:00] <macogw> Stwange: if its mounted it should be under /media
[05:00] <Recon> is anyone experienced with edits to xorg.conf
[05:00] <bloodytux> AHHHH!!! How do I update 6.06 to 6.10 if it won't say Update to new version in the update manager?
[05:00] <Ha1> Recon: A little bit, what do you want?
[05:01] <nwbie> I stupidly put this instruction: sudo chmod o+rw /*/*.* to copy an entire folder full of permissions, and I got this error:  "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0446, should be 0440", Is there anybody that can help me fixing this?
[05:01] <shrimants> can someone please help me to get my nvidia 8400m gs card working?
[05:01] <macogw> gokee2_: you dont need ndiswrapper for broadcom on feisty.  just "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[05:01] <shrimants> i've tried everything
[05:01] <Ha1> Bloodytux: wait a mo, I think I can help
[05:01] <Recon> i was trying to get my logitech mx400 to show up with the correct ammount of buttons and i screwed up
[05:01] <JiBEsH> Hello, I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blured
[05:01] <samschoice> I'm trying to copy my home directory in the terminal to a dvd drive, what command should I use ?
[05:01] <bloodytux> Ha1: K, thanks.
[05:01] <Ha1> Recon: Nah, Im not that gppd
[05:01] <gokee2_> macogw: I tried bcm43xx and it did not work for me
[05:01] <Recon> i did a sudo sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:01] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (alternatively, if there's a way to safely remove gdm and still be able to log in to X; i can live without a graphical login)
[05:02] <macogw> gokee2_: with the -fwcutter?
[05:02] <Recon> go reset it and then had some other issues
[05:02] <macogw> gokee2_: it shouldve downloaded and installed the firmware
[05:02] <dthacker> is it necessary to restart squid when I change squidGuard.conf?
[05:02] <Recon> but i think i am at least back to square one
[05:02] <dr_willis> that fwcutter package worked good for my laptop. :)
[05:02] <gokee2_> macogw: Hmmm  I just let ubuntu do what it wanted
[05:02] <shrimants> is there a list of supported graphics cards anywhere?
[05:03] <gokee2_> macogw: I will try the cutter but I don`t have a windows driver...  Will it get one for me?
[05:03] <macogw> gokee2_: bcm43xx cards wont get WPA or WPA2 with NetworkManager, so you know.
[05:03] <Recon> the only problem is when i am in gui mode i don't have any top bars and my terminal doesn't show up at all
[05:03] <macogw> gokee2_: there are drivers on linux
[05:03] <bloodytux> :(
[05:03] <macogw> gokee2_: theyre already there on ubuntu.  all you need is the firmware.  for that you do "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter" without quotes
[05:03] <JiBEsH> Hello, I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blured
[05:03] <Ha1> bloodytux: Try [[ gksu "update-manager -c" ] ]  WITH the quotes, everything inside the [[ and ] ] 
[05:04] <bloodytux> nope
[05:04] <bloodytux> Says its up to date.
[05:04] <bloodytux> ...
[05:04] <gokee2_> macogw: I have been trying to use the fancy gui...  The command prompt is just too easy :)
[05:04] <Ha1> bloodytux: Hmm, I wonder...
[05:04] <ceil420> what about the -d switch? been a while, but i think i used that
[05:04] <ceil420> (for the update-manager thing)
[05:04] <bloodytux> YAY
[05:04] <bloodytux> I got it. :D
[05:04] <samschoice> how do I copy my home directory to a dvd drive in terminal ?
[05:04] <macogw> gokee2_: i havent used the restricted drivers manager.  my intel wireless was turned on automatically during install so i didnt have to use it (intel lets ubuntu ship firmware, broadcom doesn't)
[05:05] <Ha1> bloodytux: Gah, was just about to suggest that, beat me to it ceil420
[05:05] <peepsalot> hey folks, running feisty here, which is currently using gcc 4.1.   I have something I need to build which requires gcc 3.x to build.  anyone know how i can get taht installed without overwriting my current install?
[05:05] <shavex> i need to find someone who knows alot about configuring audio in Ubunut Feisty
[05:05] <samschoice> i have the white screen of death, and just made it worse
[05:05] <ceil420> :)
[05:05] <Ha1> samschoice: What is wrong?
[05:05] <bloodytux> Ha1: thanks for the help, you too ceil420
[05:05] <macogw> ceil420: -d is for development versions, i think
[05:05] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I type my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this?
[05:05] <gokee2_> macogw: Ok cool its fetching my firmware
[05:05] <shrimants> oh dang it my graphics card isnt supported
[05:05] <shrimants> crap
[05:05] <ceil420> macogw, really? well i did get Feisty two days before final :p couldn't wait
[05:05] <macogw> shavex, you might wanna try #alsa since they're the sound guys for all of linux
[05:06] <shavex> ok thank you
[05:06] <shrimants> oh well back to vista i guess
[05:06] <macogw> shrimants: what graphics card?
[05:06] <shiester_mieste> poor man
[05:06] <macogw> oh ok theyre gone
[05:06] <Ha1> samschoice: WHats wrong?
[05:06] <John`> how do you make ubuntu display what it is loading when it first boots up instead of just a bar going across?
[05:06] <Stwange> macogw - thanks, I found it under media. This new fs is confusing. It still won't let me copy images across through, it says access denied
[05:06] <Ha1> John`: Try typing ctrl-alt-f1 if you really want to see the verbose mode
[05:06] <Stwange> that's using gksu nautilus
[05:06] <Toma-> !samba
[05:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:06] <shiester_mieste> John`, there is a command line argument used with the recovery console that makes it print out everything, find out what it is and add it to the normal mode boot
[05:07] <macogw> Stwange: open a terminal and "cd /media" then do "ls -l
[05:07] <macogw> :
[05:07] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (alternatively, if there's a way to safely remove gdm and still be able to log in to X; i can live without a graphical login)
[05:07] <gokee2_> macogw: Awsome I think it works...  brb
[05:07] <John`> command line argument?
[05:07] <Wikkedfin^> who here provides code for the offical ubuntu releases?
[05:07] <macogw> Stwange: that's "ls -l" with no quotes...ditto the no quotes on cd
[05:07] <dawn_> anybody that i can ask about pidgin?
[05:07] <macogw> dawn_: what about it?
[05:07] <gerard> !lookingglass
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lookingglass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <gerard> hmm
[05:07] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I type my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this?
[05:08] <dfgas> can anyone help with getting kde4 installed?
[05:08] <macogw> ha1: change your keyboard layout?
[05:08] <shiester_mieste> hal, does the onscreen keyboard do the same thing?
[05:08] <dawn_> hi macogw.. i wanna change the font that i'm using in chats.. how can i do it. is there a way that i can change it for all conversation windows?
[05:08] <Ha1> shiester_mieste: I might just try that now
[05:08] <gerard> anyone know the link for setting up looking glass on ubuntu
[05:08] <Ha1> macogw: : I have tried every combination I can see that will work, but no success. Itll be something I overlooked
[05:08] <macogw> dawn_: the way that the font is SENT or the way that you view it?
[05:09] <dawn_> both, macogw
[05:09] <Stwange> damn verbose mode heh, curiousity killed the cat eh how do you get out of it without rebooting?
[05:09] <macogw> dawn_: tools > preferences > conversations > default formatting
[05:09] <nwbie> hello, can somebody help me? I am having problems to change the permissions of /etc/sudoers to 0440, which command do I need?
[05:10] <macogw> nwbie: er...permissions only involve 3 digits
[05:10] <SAM_theman> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[05:10] <SAM_theman> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:10] <sparr> macogw: wrong
[05:10] <SAM_theman> ?
[05:10] <Stwange> and if anyone answered my question about access denied while trying to copy images in gksu nautilus, please can you paste the response?
[05:10] <dawn_> thanks macogw :)
[05:10] <macogw> sparr: ?? maybe the directory/block/whatever one, but usually not used in chmod
[05:10] <sparr> yes, that one.  and it can be used in chmod
[05:11] <macogw> sparr, ah sorry. didnt know there was an option to put it in.  thanks for the info
[05:11] <Gokee2_Laptop> macogw, It worked great thanks!  :)
[05:11] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I type my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this? [AltGr does nothing and Onscreen keyboard does the same] 
[05:11] <John2> when i press ctr-alt-f1, how do i resume?
[05:11] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (alternatively, if there's a way to safely remove gdm and still be able to log in to X; i can live without a graphical login)
[05:11] <John2> back to gnome
[05:11] <macogw> nwbie: well anyway, changing permissions is "sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[05:11] <james296> can anyone help me install the WUSB54GSC driver for my Linksys network card on Feisty Fawn?
[05:11] <ceil420> John2, ctrl+alt+F7
[05:12] <macogw> john2: ctrl alt f7
[05:12] <John2> thanks
[05:12] <sparr> John2: alt f7
[05:12] <kinalas> any suggested internet cafe program for ubuntu
[05:13] <d4rkmonkey> Whats the package which contains a bunch of codecs for mp3 and things like that? I remember when i installed it on dapper it was something like w32codecs but I can't seem to find that in feisty
[05:13] <macogw> james296: do you know what chipset it is?  i'm not seeing a wusb54gsc on a listing of wireless cards, just gc or g
[05:13] <rockets> d4rkmonkey: you need medibuntu
[05:13] <Ha1> Try gstreamer* and gxine
[05:13] <d4rkmonkey> medibuntu?
[05:13] <rockets> d4rkmonkey: its not in the default repos
[05:13] <setuid_w00t> Will the kubuntu alternate install disc allow me to us existing LVM volumes?
[05:13] <rockets> d4rkmonkey: go to google.com type in medibuntu and click im feeling lucky
[05:13] <rockets> d4rkmonkey: its a repository
[05:13] <nwbie> macogw: I tried this before and got this: {sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0446, should be 0440}
[05:13] <d4rkmonkey> ok
[05:14] <kinalas> any internet cafe program for ubuntu
[05:14] <macogw> nwbie: how did it get to 0446?
[05:14] <dawn_> macogw: i don't see the font the way i set it when i type in the window .
[05:14] <Stwange> I've installed a few programs, eg. truecrypt, but when I go to Add/Remove at the bottom of Applications and browse all installed applications none of them are there, and the binaries in /usr/bin don't seem to do anything, any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[05:14] <cleric> Is there a way to go from debian stable to ubuntu-server?
[05:14] <cleric> w/o a true reinstall
[05:14] <macogw> dawn_: does it look right where you type it but not once you send it?
[05:15] <macogw> Stwange: some advanced things are only in synaptic, not in add/remove
[05:15] <Ha1> cleric: No, because they are different distros
[05:15] <nwbie> macogw: I did not know how to take off the permissions of a folder, and I did not have any internet connection, so I stupidly put this: sudo chmod o+rw /*/*.*
[05:15] <joseph> I'm new to Ubuntu and took a class on Fedora is there anything like Yumex for Ubuntu?
[05:16] <Ha1> cleric: Itd be like going from a Ford to a Daihatsu by only changing a few parts instead of buying a new car
[05:16] <JiBEsH> I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blured
[05:16] <cleric> hal: i was under the impression there was a way to do an upgrade in place
[05:16] <Ha1> cleric: I dont think so, not from Debian to Ubuntu
[05:16] <Ha1> joseph: What does Yumex do?
[05:16] <macogw> joseph: synaptic package manager, i think
[05:16] <macogw> joseph: do you mean the gui for yum?
[05:16] <Nutubuntu> joseph, synaptic
[05:16] <dawn_> macogw: not for both.. when i type it and when it's sent.
[05:16] <Ha1> joseph: Symaptic, System>Administration>Synaptic
[05:17] <macogw> dawn_: for which does it look correct?
[05:17] <Nutubuntu> Hm ... I should read first before hitting enter - looks like we've got synaptic covered, though ;)
[05:17] <ProN00b> what do i use to burn on gnome ?
[05:17] <joseph> Ok thanks now to see if that has a package for webmin
[05:17] <Ha1> ProN00b: Try Gnomebaker
[05:17] <d4rkmonkey> rockets, after I set up medibuntu, whats the package for the codecs?
[05:17] <blackace11> hello can i get assistance with compiz fusion... allowing middle mouse wheel to control spin of cube?
[05:18] <Ha1> ProNoob: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[05:18] <d4rkmonkey> nvm
[05:18] <dawn_> macogw: only in preferences
[05:18] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, does anyone know why my ubuntu installation freezes while it is loading just prior to when I install it from my RAM?
[05:18] <macogw> ProN00b: you can burn in nautilus (the file manager, just tell it to burn) or with gnomebaker, or if it's audio, serpentine will work
[05:18] <Stwange> macogw: I can find the program in synaptic, but the only options are remove and complete remove, I just want to open them heh
[05:18] <macogw> dawn_: so when you're typing the message AND after you send it, it looks wrong?
[05:18] <dawn_> yes macogw
[05:19] <dawn_> do i need to install a plugin for this to work?
[05:19] <dawn_> macogw ^
[05:19] <macogw> Stwange: thats for installing/uninstalling though...try typing the name of the program in the terminal
[05:19] <shiester_mieste> hey how do you get compiz working properly...i have beryl and i click "select window manger -> compiz", but where can i configure it?
[05:19] <shiester_mieste> all it has is beryl configuration
[05:19] <macogw> dawn_: there's a conversations colors plugin (installed, just activate it) which changes how the messages appear for messages you send and receive when *you* view them, but i dont believe it modifies how the other person views them
[05:19] <d4rkmonkey> I followed the instructions on http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php and when trying to install w32 codecs I got:  Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:19] <d4rkmonkey> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:19] <d4rkmonkey> is only available from another source
[05:19] <d4rkmonkey> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[05:19] <d4rkmonkey> what should I do?
[05:20] <macogw> shiester_mieste: sudo apt-get install gnome-compiz-manager
[05:20] <Stwange> macogw: It found it :) and there are hundreds and hundreds of options to play with :) any idea how I can run the GUI that is definately there somewhere?
[05:20] <shiester_mieste> ah, thanks :D
[05:20] <damian_> hello
[05:20] <_mik3_> or gconf-editor    apps -> compiz
[05:20] <damian_> Can someone tell me how to disable the pc speaker?
[05:20] <macogw> Stwange: the manpage might have directions
[05:20] <samschoice> how could I copy my home directory to a usb mass storage device ?
[05:20] <macogw> _mik3_: now thats just mean!
[05:20] <ProN00b> macogw, i had problems with burning before with some tools (k3b, gnomebaker) on previous versions of ubuntu (random corruptions on disk), however it seemed to work with graveman, do you or anyone in here have any idea how that could be fixed or where that could have come from ?
[05:20] <dawn_> so macogw, the default formatting that i set doesn't really work?
[05:21] <_mik3_> ;)
[05:21] <joseph> Ok anpther questions where in ubuntu do I find the grub.conf file I need to edit it
[05:21] <macogw> dawn_: well, i'm not sure if its a matter of the other person sees it and you dont or if it does nothing at all
[05:21] <Stwange> macogw: I tried that, but they are so varied I couldn't figure it out. Nevermind, having to use terminal is better than not being able to use it at all. Thanks
[05:21] <damian_> Can someone tell me how to disable the pc speaker?
[05:21] <dawn_> i think it's the latter.. have you tried using it macogw?
[05:21] <JiBEsH> I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blured
[05:21] <macogw> damian_: unplug it?
[05:21] <_mik3_> turn it off?
[05:22] <pinguim_magic_> joseph /boo/grub/
[05:22] <macogw> dawn_:  will try now
[05:22] <pinguim_magic_> joseph /boot/grub/
[05:22] <Ha1> /boot/grub
[05:22] <xtknight> joseph, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:22] <damian_> Macogw, must be some other way
[05:22] <d4rkmonkey> I found out what my problem was I missed a | in the command
[05:22] <dawn_> that would be great. please let me know if it works. thanks macogw.
[05:23] <macogw> damian_: you could right click the volume thingy in panel and hit "mute"
[05:23] <macogw> dawn_: i just changed my font color in default formatting and my friend saw it fine
[05:23] <damian_> no macogw, that doesn't work, I tried before.
[05:23] <zombor> can anyone help me out with a problem with my wireless? im trying to use wpa_supplicant and dniswrapper, but when i try loading wpa_supplicant, it core dumps
[05:23] <macogw> damian_: ok thats weird
[05:23] <james296> for some very odd reason theres random times my computer just completely halts and freezes, cant move the mouse cursor or anythin, cant even use CTRL ALT backspace
[05:23] <damian_> Ok, doesn't matter, thanks anyway
[05:23] <_mik3_> internal speaker? ie system beep? or just regular external speakers?
[05:23] <cleric> hal: my problem is 2 colocated servers ... they only have minimal installs on them, but getting a server cd booted and ssh started will cost me about 300bucks USD
[05:23] <james296> WTF is causing this problem?
[05:23] <macogw> james296: is it overheating?
[05:23] <dawn_> macogw, are you both using pidgin? or is he using something else?
[05:23] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I typemy quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this? [AltGr does nothing and Onscreen keyboard does the same] 
[05:24] <damian_> mik3: internal speakers
[05:24] <macogw> dawn_: im using pidgin, he's probably using kopete
[05:24] <JiBEsH> I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blured
[05:24] <james296> I doubt it
[05:24] <Beriant> hey i need some help installing ubuntu anyone here can hep me out?
[05:24] <nwbie> is there any chmod option to set back all of the permissions properly?
[05:24] <Ha1> Beriant: Sure, what help do you need?
[05:24] <Sonicadvance1> woo
[05:24] <damian_> bye people
[05:24] <looie> yo
[05:24] <macogw> james296: :-/ my computer used to overheat and do that on dapper and edgy, but on feisty the acpi is fixed so it doesnt happen
[05:25] <macogw> nwbie: did you install from the live cd?
[05:25] <samschoice> h1: I'm trying to backup my home directory on dvd from the terminal
[05:25] <Beriant> well,i booted up from the cd i downloaded with the iso file and it goes to the ubuntu menu and i hit install,and it does its thing and then it goes to this screen and there is just a line with lots of colors in the middle of the screen and it does nothing
[05:25] <Ha1> Beriant: What help do you need?
[05:25] <nwbie> macogw: yes, when it was still a beta version
[05:25] <Sonicadvance1> I seemed to have screwed up my HDD when moving a partition and it's now showing it's disk label as "unrecognized" anyone know how to fix it? :P
[05:25] <macogw> nwbie: do you still have the live cd?
[05:25] <joseph> ok I'm in /boot/grub but don't see grub.conf in there
[05:25] <james296> its running at 49 degrees celcius
[05:25] <shiester_mieste> does compiz also share the same "black window bug" as beryl does, on nvidia cards?
[05:25] <looie> I need some help with Ubuntu 6.06 Server edition I think it is
[05:25] <macogw> joseph: it's menu.list
[05:25] <Ha1> Beriant: Try waiting for a while, like half an hour
[05:25] <macogw> joseph: i mean menu.lst
[05:26] <joseph> thanksthat works
[05:26] <Ha1> Beriant: Wait, what are your computers stats?
[05:26] <Beriant> alright,its on my other pc right so its running atm,ill go check it
[05:26] <james296> so whats going on here then?
[05:26] <Beriant> umm i got 2 gigs of ram,160 gig hard drive,nvidia 7800 gt graph card
[05:26] <nwbie> macogw: yes, but if I use it, am I going to loose any configurations I had done so far? Because my lap is a tablet, and I have installed several things on it
[05:26] <Beriant> dual core amd processor
[05:26] <Beriant> 2.8 ghz i think
[05:26] <macogw> nwbie: im not telling you to reinstall
[05:26] <zombor> can anyone help me out with a problem with my wireless? im trying to use wpa_supplicant and dniswrapper, but when i try loading wpa_supplicant, it core dumps
[05:26] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, i just had it happen to me
[05:27] <Hydr0p0nX> how can i verify which kernel version the nvidia module is built for?
[05:27] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, but doing this nvidia beryl fix cmd fixed it i think
[05:27] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, nvidia module from where, for example>
[05:27] <shiester_mieste> xtknight, its possible to fix the black window bug!?
[05:27] <Ha1> Beriant: Well, I was going to suggest a lack of RAM as the issue, but lol :-p
[05:27] <Beriant> hahahaha lol
[05:27] <shiester_mieste> i love beryl but that was the main reason i dont use it
[05:27] <macogw> nwbie: if you boot on that cd, you can mount your hard drive and fix the file permissions from there
[05:27] <Hydr0p0nX> I did an upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 and now direct rendering is disabled
[05:27] <nwbie> macogw: sorry, I'm still learning about ubuntu, you know, in windows you have to loose everything
[05:27] <Ha1> Beriant: Have you tried DLing the alternative install CD?
[05:27] <jimmygoon> How big of an LCD can I use with my laptop if it only has an Intel integrated graphics card?
[05:27] <Beriant> its like a beige color screen with just a strip of colors in the middle
[05:27] <Beriant> na where do i get that
[05:27] <nwbie> macogw: could you tell me how to do it?
[05:27] <macogw> nwbie: this is just a repair, not a reinstall
[05:27] <adam_> Hello.
[05:28] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, i dunno.  i had a black window terminal and plus no window decoratnos.  i typed this cmd they gave me in #ubuntu-effects and it fixed both.  it's a well known nvidia/beryl problem
[05:28] <Stwange> if a command line program mounts a virtual drive, could it be anywhere other than /media/? because I can't find it
[05:28] <adam_> I have a question that I hope is easy to answer.
[05:28] <macogw> nwbie: yes just come back on here after you reboot with the cd
[05:28] <Ha1> Beriant: Same place as the normal one, just follow your nose and the menus
[05:28] <Dancingwllamas> Is there some variable in sh that stores where a script is being run from? I am running a script using a cronjob that downloads files and outputs a log file, but when the script is executed it outputs the files to my base home folder instead of the subfolder where the script is.
[05:28] <Beriant> kk
[05:28] <russe11> Stwange: check /mnt/
[05:28] <Ha1> Beriant: It has worked for me when nothing else has, such as on a 64MB 466MHz laptop
[05:28] <xtknight> shiester_mieste,  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:28] <adam_> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time in months and the desktop is bigger than the screen.
[05:28] <nwbie> macogw: ok, thanks, I'll be back soon
[05:28] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, it's that ^
[05:28] <looie> I set up a CS1.6 server on an Ubuntu VPS, but every time I closd PuTTY, it shuts down the server...
[05:28] <macogw> shiester_mieste: you can force aiglx instead of using nvidia rendering.  itll be a bit slower, but no black window bug
[05:28] <Beriant> kk,ill look for it now
[05:28] <adam_> And it will scroll down when I mouse down to the bottom, but I don't like it.
[05:28] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, alright, can you use the restricted driver manager?
[05:28] <jimmygoon> adam_ did you edit /etc/xorg.conf?
[05:28] <Ha1> looie: Dont do that then
[05:28] <Stwange> russe11: empty :S any other ideas?
[05:28] <adam_> Nope.  Fresh install.
[05:28] <looie> but I want it running 24/7
[05:29] <russe11> Stwange: nope, sorry
[05:29] <shiester_mieste> macogw, yeah i did that, and its quite a lot slower
[05:29] <looie> I think my friend said something about a program called SCreen..
[05:29] <Stwange> ok thanks anyway
[05:29] <Beriant> by alternate do you mean the 6.06 lts instead of the 7.04?
[05:29] <looie> *screen
[05:29] <russe11> Stwange: what program is supposed to be doing the mounting?
[05:29] <shiester_mieste> macogw, it also crashes sometimes and kills the whole OS for some reason
[05:29] <jimmygoon> adam_ try playing with the options in System->Preferences-> Screen Resolution (turn it down)
[05:29] <Ha1> Beriant: NO, I mean its actually called Alternative install disc or somesuch
[05:29] <Stwange> russe11: truecrypt, are you familiar with it?
[05:29] <Beriant> ahh kk
[05:29] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, when I looked, it was enabled and in use, when doing glxinfo |grep direct, I get direct rendering: No
[05:29] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, im not sure what to suggest but it runs great on my 7800gt.  oh ive definitely had my problems with it thouhg.  im just giving it another try (as of 10 mins ago)
[05:29] <shiester_mieste> not just X11, like ubuntu itself just DIES and reboots the system
[05:29] <adam_> I will try to mess with it.
[05:29] <macogw> shiester_mieste: weirdness.  i find it funny that the guy who just told me "a tad slower" uses a pentium 2 though
[05:29] <adam_> Maybe just switching to something else and back will knock it in place.
[05:29] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, and you restarted your X server..
[05:29] <adam_> Just a second.
[05:29] <macogw> shiester_mieste: i have intel graphics, i just remembered him saying thats what he does
[05:29] <shiester_mieste> it does run a bit slower though
[05:29] <xtknight> ?
[05:30] <shiester_mieste> yeah apparently it works good on intel graphics
[05:30] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, I've completely rebooted 3times
[05:30] <shiester_mieste> i wish compiz had as many functions as beryl does :(
[05:30] <russe11> Stwange, I'm not really, but I guess I'd just recommend taking a look at their documentation if you haven't.
[05:30] <shiester_mieste> like for example, inverting window colours
[05:30] <mavsman4457> hello I am having difficulty installing super mario war and when I try to my terminal looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28179/
[05:30] <jimmygoon> How big of an LCD can I use with my laptop if it only has an Intel integrated graphics card? Does the graphics card limit my screen resolution even with an external monitor or is this weird fear I have unfounded?
[05:30] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin please?
[05:30] <russe11> shiester_mieste: check out compiz-fusion. It's working great for me
[05:30] <Ha1> jimmygoon: Probably unfounded
[05:30] <Stwange> russell: thanks anyway. I'm trying that but it mainly seems directed to windows users, and I'm familiar with using it on XP
[05:30] <blackace11> mavsman4457; were did you get mario world?
[05:31] <xtknight> jimmygoon, it does sorta limit it.  you will get lower quality when you use a higher bandwidth . bandwidth=resolution*refresh rate
[05:31] <macogw> shiester_mieste: it works perfect for us :)  but i asked my friend danny and he said he forces aiglx and its a tad slower.  he has a pentium 2 though so his computer is really slow.  i'm guessing you have a much newer computer, so for you to feel a drastic slowdown is surprising
[05:31] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, install sdl mixer libs
[05:31] <Ha1> jimmygoon: Eyeballing it, probably a 1152, depending more on the screen
[05:31] <JiBEsH> I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blinking
[05:31] <xtknight> jimmygoon, ive found that Intel extreme graphics have issues doing more than 1280x1024 or so without looking bad.  i haev one right next to me
[05:31] <macogw> oh look theres danny
[05:31] <AmyRose> hello
[05:31] <Ha1> jimmygoon: Nothing really to lose sleep about unless your a magnaphile
[05:31] <Ha1> Hello, AmyRose
[05:31] <adam_> Strange.
[05:31] <jimmygoon> the quality is actually degraded though :S
[05:31] <shiester_mieste> macogw, maybe its not really "drastic".  what i meant was that i can notice it stuttering which annoys me :P
[05:31] <AmyRose> Ha1: Are you the one with the black window bug?
[05:31] <Ha1> AmyRose: Not me
[05:31] <macogw> AmyRose:  no shiester_mieste is
[05:32] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, so i just type in sudo apt-get install sdl mixer?
[05:32] <Ha1> I
[05:32] <Beriant> well i feel kinda of dumb,but i found a guide using the alternate cd,but no download location
[05:32] <Ha1> m the guy with a quotation mark input error :-p
[05:32] <adam_> I went to change my resolution and it reset Xorg.
[05:32] <shiester_mieste> i have an 8800gtx and a core 2 duo, and im wondering why it slows down at all
[05:32] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, lemme look up the package name
[05:32] <Ha1> Beriant: Let me have a look on the site for you
[05:32] <Beriant> kk thz
[05:32] <blackace11> mavsman4457: were did you download that!? i want to get mario war
[05:32] <Beriant> thx*
[05:32] <adam_> Then when I came back into it, it changed the resolution just fine.
[05:32] <samschoice> ircnoob did you figure it out ?
[05:32] <shiester_mieste> russe11, whats compiz-fusion?
[05:32] <Sonicadvance1> Anyone able to help me with my HDD problem?
[05:32] <jimmygoon> this is an OLD intel like GME8xx? and I want 1680x1050 --- is that going to be bad?
[05:32] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, did you try a refresh rate force of 200hz in the beryl setings manager?  that fixed all my speed problems.  plus turning off sync VBlank in there did too
[05:32] <macogw> shiester_mieste: c-f is the newly merged together compiz/beryl
[05:32] <Ha1> jimmygoon: Yeah, most likely
[05:32] <shiester_mieste> no i didnt
[05:32] <looie> so, there's no way to keep my VPS connections open 24/7?
[05:32] <shiester_mieste> i will though
[05:32] <adam_> I fixed the problem.  Studying the settings, it became quite obvious what the problem was.
[05:33] <Nutubuntu> Beriant,  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:33] <adam_> See you all later.
[05:33] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, remember to uncheck "detect refresh rate" in there also
[05:33] <looie> bye
[05:33] <levander> If I buy a second hard disk, can I make a RAID array out of my
[05:33] <levander> existing hard disk (which is already running Ubuntu) and this new hard
[05:33] <levander> disk?  Or, do I have to create the RAID, then install Ubuntu on top of it?
[05:33] <ceil420> anyone know how to fix gdm? i've re-named gdm.conf-custom, backed up gdm.conf and put factory-gdm.conf in it's place, but still all i get after the nvidia splash screen is a black screen with a "waiting" cursor. I can get a gui with startx, but i can't get a graphical login screen (more info on the ubuntuforums in "General Help")
[05:33] <mavsman4457> blackace11, just google super mario war and it's the first site then there is a download tab it is an outstadning game
[05:33] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457,  sudo apt-get install libsdl-mixer1.2
[05:33] <Nutubuntu> You'll need javascript enabled - Beriant - for it to work
[05:33] <macogw> shiester_mieste: it has some pretty new features!  the cube is reflected on the skydome
[05:33] <shiester_mieste> macogw, where do i get compiz-fusion from?
[05:33] <ceil420> (and I was right, forums are a nightmare in lynx ;x)
[05:33] <JiBEsH> I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blinking
[05:33] <macogw> shiester_mieste: trevino
[05:33] <shiester_mieste> whoa thats awesome!
[05:33] <xtknight> what's compiz-fusion vs. beryl?
[05:33] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457,  sudo apt-get install libsdl-mixer1.2-dev   -- sorry forgot you're compiling!
[05:33] <Beriant> how do i enable it?
[05:33] <macogw> xtknight: beryl merged back in with compiz and that formed c-f
[05:33] <Ha1> Beriant: Let me have a look, currently looking
[05:33] <Beriant> kk
[05:33] <xtknight> macogw, any new features?
[05:34] <jimmygoon> xtknight,  #ubuntu-effects    Its a newer product that has the advantages and sadly disadvantages of both beryl/compiz
[05:34] <Ha1> Beriant: They have totally chyanged this since I DLed the server alternative edition two weeks ago 0_o
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> Beriant, javascript in your browser - if you've got it disabled by a Firefox setting, for example, you'll need to enable it for that page to load properly
[05:34] <macogw> xtknight: do you read? i just said the cube can now be reflected on teh skydome
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> Ha1 - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:34] <Beriant> ahh kk,let me check it and see if its enabled
[05:34] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, http://pastebin.ca/599296
[05:34] <jimmygoon> Ha1, oh, well thanks for the info, I'll call up Toshiba and ask them for sure before I buy t3h monitor
[05:34] <shiester_mieste> also, does anybody know of a good dock app that is like kiba-dock but doesnt rape the cpu
[05:34] <macogw> xtknight: also, they redid zoom\
[05:34] <shiester_mieste> and dont say gkdesklets cos it does NOT have one
[05:35] <Ha1> Beriant: LOL
[05:35] <Stwange> I've found that my mounted partition has been mapped to /dev/mapper/truecrypt0, but this isn't openable (in the same way /dev/sda1 isn't openable I have to use /media/sda1), I guess I'm getting closer :S
[05:35] <jimmygoon> shiester_mieste, awn? avant-window-navigator
[05:35] <macogw> xtknight: http://dev.beryl-project.org/~cyberorg/beryl/36/compiz-fusion-arrives/
[05:35] <shiester_mieste> thanks :D
[05:35] <Ha1> Beriant: Just check the box at the bottom of the page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:35] <jimmygoon> shiester_mieste, or cairo-dock/gnome-dock etc
[05:35] <shiester_mieste> this channel is SO helpful today!
[05:35] <Beriant> oh
[05:35] <Beriant> hahahahahaha
[05:35] <Beriant> wow
[05:35] <JiBEsH> I have a trouble when I switch from X to tty console, the display is blinking
[05:35] <xtknight> macogw, thx
[05:35] <Ha1> Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer. - that one, Berianty
[05:35] <Toma-> I cant open a samba share that has full 777 permissions... its on a different harddrive to my other samba share that is setup exactlyu the same but works fine.
[05:35] <russe11> shiester_mieste: compiz-fusion is the re-merged compiz and beryl
[05:35] <Ha1> Beriant:  :-p Good times, eh
[05:35] <Beriant> hahaha ye definately
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> :) happy camper, shiester_mieste ?
[05:35] <macogw> shiester_mieste: installing c-f on feisty http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[05:36] <shiester_mieste> this is like, a world record for most problems ive ever seen fixed in one day, ever
[05:36] <looie> cool
[05:36] <jimmygoon> Is there a reason that my capslock key doesn't work in tty in any version above dapper... its kind of annoying
[05:36] <shiester_mieste> somebody call guiness!
[05:36] <Nutubuntu> somebody buy one :)
[05:36] <macogw> shiester_mieste: most of YOUR problems, or problems overall?
[05:36] <macogw> shiester_mieste: because there are some doctors that have you sit on couches which might also be able to help with those
[05:36] <Ubuzy> Hi all
[05:36] <macogw> ;)
[05:37] <jerry_> anyone know how to install flash?
[05:37] <jerry_> please help
[05:37] <shiester_mieste> macogw, my problems too, but lots of other peoples
[05:37] <russe11> !flash
[05:37] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:37] <russe11> jerry_
[05:37] <jimmygoon> jerry_ flip computer over, unscrew screw and insert
[05:37] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, weird.  that log looks great actually
[05:37] <Hydr0p0nX> yea
[05:37] <macogw> jerry_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:37] <shiester_mieste> ive had so much trouble getting networking and connection sharing going, but today, with this channel's help, i have triumphed!
[05:37] <jimmygoon> jerry_ er, my bad, I thought you meant like memory flash :P
[05:37] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, you say you dont get direct rendering in glxinfo ? youre not using XGL or anything are you?
[05:37] <Ha1> shiester_mieste: Woohoo!
[05:37] <looie> anyone at all know anything about Ubuntu 6.06 Server Edition?
[05:37] <d4rkmonkey> is there some sort of package which includes some of the ubuntu backgrounds that came in dapper? Like Dawn of Ubuntu
[05:37] <jerry_> no, flash as in a flash player in firefox
[05:37] <jimmygoon> looie, as in..?
[05:38] <Beriant> thx for the help guys,im downloading the alternate cd now,and if it dosnt work ill get back on here and tell ya what it does.
[05:38] <looie> how to keep connections always open when PuTTY is closed
[05:38] <macogw> d4rkmonkey: you can find them in archive.ubuntu.com
[05:38] <Ubuzy> Smeone can help me with my printer problem?
[05:38] <d4rkmonkey> thanks macogw
[05:38] <jimmygoon> looie, what "Connections"
[05:38] <samschoice> if I screw up gnome beyond repair but still have my files intact... could I get to those files with a livecd?
[05:38] <looie> CS1.6 server
[05:38] <jimmygoon> samschoice, yes, unless by "screw up gnome" you mean delete files P
[05:38] <jimmygoon> :P
[05:39] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I hit my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this? [AltGr does nothing and Onscreen keyboard does the same as the real keyboard] 
[05:39] <macogw> d4rkmonkey: i nabbed a warty bg and put it on the mac at work.  boss went "oo that background looks good.  makes me hungry.  seems like i could just take a spoon and eat it up like chocolate mousse"
[05:39] <samschoice> jimmy, i hope you're right, i keep trying to use the terminal and i'm an idiot on it
[05:39] <_mik3_> ok I need help!; messed about with beryl, clicked on 'force xgl' -> can't log in to failsafe gnome, launched xchat from terminal. Can i fix this with gconf-editor?
[05:39] <macogw> Ha1: what keyboard layout are you using?
[05:39] <Hydr0p0nX> i was before upgrading, but now beryl acts like it's broken
[05:39] <pjman> Hi everyone. I was on earlier asking a question about my dual GPU video card (GV-3D1) not working with the LiveCD. The LiveCD is not setting my video card's bus identifier correctly. It's detecting it as "PCI:4:0:0" when it should be "PCI:5:0:0" - If anyone is interested in the steps I took to get it working I have it listed here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=465064. Someone (sorry, I forgot who) told me that's it's unlikely
[05:39] <d4rkmonkey> lol
[05:39] <macogw> _mik3_: i dont think beryl uses gconf
[05:39] <dr_willis> ' "   - become ` and `` ?
[05:39] <Dezine> how would I go about upgrading to gutsy?
[05:40] <_mik3_> can i fix it from the terminal?
[05:40] <Dezine> fron feisty
[05:40] <Ha1> macogw: The default en_us 105 intel with dead keys
[05:40] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, so direct rendering is off though?  you think you're running the normal X server now?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Dezine,  i wouldent upgrade at this time.
[05:40] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  what is kiba-dock all about? first time I ran across the name - why do you like it? pm me if you want so we don't clutter the channel
[05:40] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, right
[05:40] <jimmygoon> samschoice, you should be fine, if you want to just backup your home dir that would be fairly painless I'd imagine, tar it up, send it across the network from the live disc, usually it mounts those partitions for you and makes it fairly easy, there are surely many tutorials on that (I'd imagine)
[05:40] <Ubuzy> Please, i need install my printer but i do not have the controller
[05:40] <macogw> Ha1: 105? i wonder what the 105th key is... i only know of 101 and 104 layouts....wanna try 104?
[05:40] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, it looked normal at make but when i did make install it gave me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28180/
[05:40] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, youve stumped me.  you're using nvidia-glx-new drivers from the restricted manager?
[05:40] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, yup
[05:40] <Dezine> thanks for the warning but it's on a laptop I don't really use anyway
[05:40] <mavsman4457> if you would like me to show you what it said at make i can
[05:41] <Stwange> thanks for the help guys, I've managed to get truecrypt working. Still can't move my music but I might do that with partition magic in windows. I'm a final year CS major and it's taken me about 10 hours to get the basics working, if linux ever hopes to compete it needs to be more intuitive than that...
[05:41] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, do "sudo make"
[05:41] <macogw> Ha1: i dont know what key that would kill.  i cant think of anything essential that isnt part of 101 (104 has 2 windows keys and the dropdown key)
[05:41] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, there another way to be sure xgl isn't running?
[05:41] <mavsman4457> dang haha
[05:41] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, no "sudo make install"
[05:41] <jimmygoon> my bad
[05:41] <mavsman4457> should i do sudo make again?
[05:41] <mavsman4457> oh ok
[05:41] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, post your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[05:41] <d4rkmonkey> macogw, where on archive.ubuntu.com can I find the backgrounds?
[05:41] <macogw> d4rkmonkey: poke around
[05:41] <Ha1> macogw: Ok, thats wierd. NOW, when I tried to change it, it gave me a big error message
[05:41] <Ha1> Error activating XKB configuration.
[05:41] <Ha1> It can happen under various circumstances:
[05:41] <Ha1> - a bug in libxklavier library
[05:41] <Ha1> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[05:41] <Ha1> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[05:41] <russe11> Stwange, what do you mean move your music, what problem are you having?
[05:41] <Ha1> X server version data:
[05:41] <jimmygoon> (sorry I wasn't more help looie)
[05:41] <Ha1> The X.Org Foundation
[05:41] <Ha1> 70200000
[05:41] <xtknight> !paste | Ha1
[05:41] <ubotu> Ha1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:41] <Ha1> If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
[05:41] <Ha1> - The result of xprop -root | grep XKB
[05:41] <Stwange> russell - my bad, not music, pictures
[05:42] <Ha1> - The result of gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
[05:42] <Ha1> Yeah, sorry guys
[05:42] <levander> Most people who are doing RAID at home, they are doing RAID 0 or
[05:42] <russe11> Stwange, same question.
[05:42] <levander> RAID 1?
[05:42] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, sorry i didnt see your comment earlier.  kiba-dock is a very good dock application that unfortunately rapes the CPU with rather ridiculous and useless "physics"
[05:42] <macogw> d4rkmonkey: try in here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-artwork/
[05:42] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, sorry i'm an idiot, xgl is running just doesn't seem to be running as it should, some things are broken like window title bars missing in beryl so i assumed it was a gl problem
[05:42] <russe11> levander: It just depends on what you want to do. I was using RAID 0 as of yesterday
[05:42] <Ha1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28181/ macogw
[05:42] <macogw> d4rkmonkey: may 2006 seem most likely to be dapper
[05:42] <shiester_mieste> also it seems to be rather poorly coded, as any animations on it lag the whole system
[05:43] <d4rkmonkey> thanks macogw
[05:43] <Ubuzy> Somebody works with one Epson Stylus c92?
[05:43] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, actually i just had the same problem a sec ago.  let me get the cmd
[05:43] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX,   sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:43] <xtknight> and then logout
[05:43] <d4rkmonkey> do you have any idea what the .debs install?
[05:43] <Stwange> russell: they are mounted in NTFS, but whenever I try to open them it says that the filetype JPEG is having trouble with plaintext source or something, and they could be dangerous. When I try to copy them out of NTFS into the linux partition, it says access denied, I've tried with sudo and gksu, but it still says access denied for every picture
[05:43] <cupps> Is there a way to share files between a Windows box and a Linux box?
[05:43] <macogw> Ha1:  yeah dude over my head
[05:43] <looie> it's okay jimmy
[05:43] <xtknight> !samba  | cupps
[05:43] <ubotu> cupps: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:43] <Nutubuntu> levander,  RAID1 I hope, or RAID5 - if redundancy is what you're after
[05:43] <looie> I'll ask my friend tomorrow
[05:43] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  thanks :)
[05:43] <Ha1> macogw: K, thanks for your time
[05:43] <dcsmith> The closed source flash player routinely hangs epiphany on me, does gnash do the same in gutsy?
[05:43] <Toma-> I cant open a samba share that has full 777 permissions... its on a different harddrive to my other samba share that is setup exactly the same but works fine.
[05:43] <Hydr0p0nX> brb
[05:43] <levander> russe11: I'm trying to decide what's more important,
[05:43] <levander> fault-tolerance or speed.  I'm reading now that RAID can't really be
[05:43] <levander> counted on as a backup strategy, so I'm thinking RAID 0 now.
[05:43] <macogw> d4rkmonkey: dont use the debs, it might ditch your current bg's. just get the tar and untar it and save the bg somewhere
[05:43] <xtknight> cupps, i like my guide though :P  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[05:44] <d4rkmonkey> ok
[05:44] <russe11> levander: redundancy is kind of the point of RAID 1
[05:44] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, i think it installed because it didn't give me an error message or anything but if it installed would it have to say done or something?
[05:44] <shiester_mieste> Nutubuntu, the main feature i liked about it is, when you launch an apps from shortcuts on the dock, those shortcuts now function like a taskbar, so clicking on them just brings up the app rather than launching it again
[05:44] <dr_willis> levander,  for game performance go for speed.. for real work - fault tolerance
[05:44] <Nutubuntu> levander,  RAID is not a backup strategy but if you plan to store data - or anything that would cause you pain if it went away - you don't want raid0
[05:44] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I hit my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this? [AltGr does nothing and Onscreen keyboard does the same as the real keyboard. Lay
[05:44] <cupps> xtknight Thanks for the head's up... :)
[05:44] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, nah, just try to run it now
[05:44] <mavsman4457> ok, in the same terminal?
[05:44] <shiester_mieste> hal, did using the onscreen keyboard help?
[05:45] <jimmygoon> sure
[05:45] <dr_willis> Ha1,  as a check - does the console do the same thing?
[05:45] <project7|narius> When booting from fiesty live cd after it loads (in either safe or normal) my screen goes black and my monitor switches between inputs looking for a signal. I have a widescreen monitor and an ATI graphics card. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:45] <thesource> !ssh
[05:45] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:45] <cafuego> levander: raid 1 or higher will preotect from disk failure, which is good. You'll still ant off-site copies of your data though
[05:45] <Nutubuntu> shiester_mieste,  very cool - I wonder how much of a cpu hit I'd see - I'm not used to this box yet at all
[05:45] <thesource> hummm
[05:45] <thesource> can some tell me how to let some one ssh in to my box
[05:46] <levander> Does anyone combine them, and do RAID 0 and RAID 1 at the same time?
[05:46] <looie> give them root pass?
[05:46] <capo> so will an ATI Radeon x1950 Pro be able to use Beryl without any problems
[05:46] <xtknight> levander, raid0+1 and raid10
[05:46] <jimmygoon> thesource, install the ssh server and give them your ip and a working user/pass combo
[05:46] <cafuego> levander: Yes, but that requires 4 disks.
[05:46] <locke> what is the package to make and makeinstall in ubuntu?
[05:46] <pjman> Does anyone have any ideas to my question above? (Why Knoppix works but Ubuntu LiveCd does with my dual GPU video card)
[05:46] <thesource> whats a good ssh server
[05:46] <macogw> thesource: and make sure your firewall is either off or forwarding port 22--including the firewall on your router
[05:46] <xtknight> locke, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:46] <cafuego> levander: raid5 might be a better alternative in such cases
[05:46] <locke> xtknight:  thank you
[05:46] <pjman> thesource: OpenSSH always works for me
[05:46] <xtknight> locke, it should be "make" and "sudo make install", by the way
[05:46] <cleric> Hal: BTW .... debootstrap is the way to do it ... using the swap partition as the bouncing point
[05:46] <looie> how do you pm someone?
[05:47] <levander> How much faster is RAID0 than RAID1?  Like it takes maybe 10
[05:47] <levander> seconds for Firefox to start up because it's reading stuff off disk.
[05:47] <levander> Is that going to speed up to 5 seconds if I go RAID0?
[05:47] <xtknight> looie, /query NICK message
[05:47] <capo> so will an ATI Radeon x1950 Pro be able to use Beryl without any problems?
[05:47] <thesource> ok thanks
[05:47] <nwbie> macogw: Hello there, I am now using the live cd, how may I procced?
[05:47] <looie> kk thanks
[05:47] <xtknight> capo, ya it should be fine
[05:47] <levander> looie: or just, /nick <message>
[05:47] <dr_willis> levander,  doubtfull if ya will notice much
[05:47] <Stwange> russe11: any ideas about the pictures mate?
[05:47] <macogw> nwbie: do you by any chance know if you have a sata or ide hard drive?
[05:47] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, still the same, any other ideas?
[05:47] <levander> dr_willis: really? wow
[05:47] <Nutubuntu> levander,  yes. There's a good "basics of RAID" here: http://www.acsdata.com/raid-basics.htm     I would go with RAID1 over RAID5 personally but I'm awfully conservative about this kind of thing
[05:47] <Elliot_M> hey how do i install a ubuntu 7.04 theme ?
[05:47] <levander> dr_willis: what are the cases where you would notice?
[05:47] <cafuego> levander: Just start firefox once, then leave it running, it'll be instantaneous, and for free :-)
[05:47] <dr_willis> levander,  loading 300+mb game level files is noticeable
[05:47] <Nutubuntu> levander, earlier "yes" was to your question about RAID1+0 not to the speed question
[05:48] <project7|narius> When booting from fiesty live cd after it loads (in either safe or normal) my screen goes black and my monitor switches between inputs looking for a signal. I have a widescreen monitor and an ATI graphics card. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:48] <dr_willis> levander,  assuming you can even get raid working under linux. :)
[05:48] <nwbie> macogw: I'm sorry, I'm not sure. It is a laptop, does that help?
[05:48] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, try pressing ctrl alt backspace instead of just logout
[05:48] <levander> dr_willis: yeah, i'm reading about RAID now...
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Elliot_M, Drag it to the theme switcher ( and it's a Gnome theme, not an Ubuntu theme )
[05:48] <Nutubuntu> dr_willis, software RAID is working fine for me; just installed it last week on my new box
[05:48] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, that should restart gdm for good
[05:48] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, I did that first, then rebooted
[05:48] <Elliot_M> o ok
[05:48] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, hmm you still have no window decs?
[05:48] <cafuego> Nutubuntu: Linux seems fine with raid5 these days; i have a few raid5 machines.. and i test them regularly by simply removing a drive :-)
[05:48] <Ha1> shiester_mieste: No, exact same results
[05:48] <macogw> nwbie: go to places > computer and see if it lists your hard drive (if it does thisll be even easier than i was thinking) and no, laptops dont necessarily tell you which bus it'll be
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Elliot_M, System -> Preferences -> Theme
[05:49] <Ha1> dr_willis: Yes, exactly the same
[05:49] <Hydr0p0nX> xtknight, nope, not even a close button compiz shows it and nothing else
[05:49] <xtknight> Hydr0p0nX, i suggest #ubuntu-effects then
[05:49] <Hydr0p0nX> thanks
[05:49] <shiester_mieste> hey what were those settings you guys recommended me to make in beryl to make it run better?  there was something about "detect refresh rate" and "sync to vblank"?
[05:49] <mavsman4457> kimmygoon, thank you very much that worked like a charm but i found out that i got the wrong source so if i want to uninstall it could i just delete the smw file in usr/share then also delete the source and it would be gone?
[05:49] <levander> dr_willis: Can I "change" my existing Ubuntu system by adding a
[05:49] <levander> disk and change my current disk (that already has Ubuntu installed) into
[05:49] <levander> a RAID with the new disk?
[05:49] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, sorry
[05:49] <cafuego> levander: no
[05:49] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, uncheck "detect refresh rate", uncheck "sync to vblank", then put in a refresh rate of 200 hz
[05:49] <dr_willis> Ha1,  odd.. try a live cd?   I find it hard to belive that hitting the " key is giveing 2 ' '  marks...
[05:49] <Nutubuntu> cafuego, it's not that it wouldn't work, it's what would need to happen to lose the array. in raid5, any two drives; in raid1 it would have to be a mirrored pair. of course if you've only *got* a pair ... well, if they both go, that's that
[05:49] <Elliot_M> its not letting me drag it in
[05:50] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, whats the matter?
[05:50] <Elliot_M> what file format does it have to be in ?
[05:50] <Sonicadvance1> '' vs "
[05:50] <nwbie> macogw: yes it does. Actually I have 2 partitions there: one for ubuntu, and the other for windows
[05:50] <dr_willis> levander,  depends on your raid controller i imagind - ive never covverted .
[05:50] <Ha1> dr_willis: It doesnt. Hitting the shift + quote key gives me , which is an umlaut
[05:50] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, what i mean to say is above my prvious statement but instead i said kimmygoon as teh address
[05:50] <levander> i was thinking about using software raid, guess i need more reading
[05:50] <BigGayBill> I have a question and was told to come here to ask
[05:50] <levander> BigGayBill: ask
[05:50] <macogw> nwbie: tell it to mount the ubuntu partition
[05:50] <cafuego> Nutubuntu: Oh yeh, but I'm not that worried about 2 disks going before I can add a replacement drive. An even then, I do have backups on another (removable) drive
[05:50] <Nutubuntu> levander, hate to say "I think maybe sorta yes" but I do seem to remember that you could add a drive and "convert" to RAID. I could be wrong ...
[05:51] <project7|narius> When booting from fiesty live cd after it loads (in either safe or normal) my screen goes black and my monitor switches between inputs looking for a signal. I have a widescreen monitor and an ATI graphics card. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:51] <dr_willis> Shift quote. hmm..  what kind of keyboard ya got?
[05:51] <BigGayBill> I have a tandy 1000 and want to upgrade the HDD to a 40MB.. where can I buy one?
[05:51] <levander> Nutubuntu: yeah, thanks, i gotta lotta reading to do anyway, i'll
[05:51] <levander> keep looking for it
[05:51] <Nutubuntu> cafuego,  yeah ... as I said, I'm probably too conservative about this stuff. it's nice that disks are cheap these days :)
[05:51] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, I would assume that if you redl and recompile and reinstall that it would just write over the top of it
[05:51] <macogw> project7|narius: try going through the boot options on the screen where it asks if you want to "start or install ubuntu"
[05:51] <dr_willis> BigGayBill,  ebay.
[05:51] <cafuego> levander: You could creat a raid1 with a single working disk and a failed (absent) disk, then move your data to the degraded array, start from that, format th original disk and add it to the array.
[05:51] <samschoice> i'm thinking knoppix will mount the drives automatically
[05:51] <BigGayBill> well I cant get on ebay with my tandy
[05:51] <mavsman4457> kimmygoon, ok i will give that a shot thank you for your help
[05:51] <Ha1> dr_willis: A Genius Comfy KB-21e-Scroll
[05:51] <shiester_mieste> thanks, xtknight
[05:52] <BigGayBill> it takes too much cache in the HDD
[05:52] <shiester_mieste> that seems to have helped
[05:52] <cafuego> levander: But honestly, that's hassle.
[05:52] <nwbie> macogw: I'm not sure on how to do this, I just double clicked on the drive and I can see the files there
[05:52] <dr_willis> Ha1,  what language is it? could be your system is set to the wrong language/layout.
[05:52] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, ya it made mine 3x smoother
[05:52] <project7|narius> macogw: haha I got it to work but using ctrl alt backspace
[05:52] <shiester_mieste> yeah this is running really smooth
[05:52] <project7|narius> lucky guess :D
[05:52] <shiester_mieste> D:
[05:52] <BigGayBill> ok guess you people cant help. I will just go look at some porn  bye
[05:52] <shiester_mieste> *:D
[05:52] <macogw> nwbie: in that case it's mounted then.  where does it say it is?  /media/disk ?
[05:52] <Ha1> dr_willis: English
[05:52] <shiester_mieste> how did i misspell an emoticon!?
[05:53] <Ha1> dr_willis: Stanard US keyboard layout
[05:53] <d4rkmonkey> whats compiz fusion?
[05:53] <nwbie> macogw: exactly /media/disk
[05:53] <shiester_mieste> avant-window-manager looks really cool, thanks whoever it was who told me about it
[05:53] <jimmygoon> d4rkmonkey, try #ubuntu-effects its a fusion of beryl/compiz with their pros and their cons IMO
[05:53] <d4rkmonkey> ok
[05:53] <macogw> nwbie: open a terminal then and "sudo chmod 0440 /media/disk/etc/sudoers"
[05:53] <dr_willis> Ha1,  try some live cd's see if the problem affects them also I guess. Im still not clear on whats going/wrong.
[05:54] <Ha1> dr_willis: LiveCDs work perfectly. Its a setting in Ubuntu itself I thinkl
[05:54] <levander> Does Ubuntu ship with any kind of domain controller?  How hard is
[05:54] <levander> it to set up?
[05:55] <nwbie> macogw: done!, there was no message, so I guess it did it properly, Is that it?
[05:55] <dr_willis> Ha1,  you are the first ive heard mention anything this odd.. May want to check the forums/wiki pages.. could be some other language is set.
[05:55] <macogw> nwbie: yep just reboot into your regular thing
[05:55] <macogw> nwbie: though actually
[05:55] <macogw> nwbie: you may want to "sudo chmod o-rw /media/disk/*/*.*" to put those back to how they should be
[05:56] <macogw> nwbie: thatd take away "other"s read/write on all files
[05:56] <macogw> nwbie: or actually "sudo chmod -R 0440 /media/disk/*"
[05:56] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, there is a prebuilt deb file for super mario war : http://www.nintexbox.com/files/smw-1.7-0.deb...
[05:56] <macogw> nwbie: and then just chmod your own files back to 755
[05:56] <shiester_mieste> avant-window-manger seems to crash randomly :/
[05:56] <shiester_mieste> kiba-dock did the same thing, too
[05:56] <shiester_mieste> weird
[05:56] <looie> later everyone
[05:57] <macogw> shiester_mieste: dont touch "volume" on kiba.  it crashes
[05:57] <shiester_mieste> cya loon
[05:57] <Nutubuntu> levander,  ... domain controller? as in Windows before AD?
[05:57] <jimmygoon> shiester_mieste, run it in a terminal and see what it says
[05:57] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, yes but i am on a ppc/ps3
[05:57] <macogw> shiester_mieste: kiba isnt even alpha yet
[05:57] <shiester_mieste> jimmygoon, great idea, thanks
[05:57] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, ah! cool! good luck
[05:57] <macogw> nwbie: did you understand that?
[05:57] <nwbie> macogw: Yes
[05:58] <nwbie> macogw: Thank you very much!, you just save me
[05:58] <macogw> nwbie: ok there was no response so i wanted to make sure you werent confused and doing something wrong
[05:58] <Sonicadvance1> Is it possible to fix a HDD that messed up when moving a partition?
[05:58] <levander> Nutubuntu: or something similar, isn't there like NIS for UNIX?
[05:58] <coraline> nobody uses NIS anymore.
[05:58] <macogw> nwbie: no problem. ive had to live-cd-in to fix things on my box (and on other peoples that i was fixing) many times
[05:58] <pjman> Why does my dual GPU video card not work with the Ubuntu LiveCD while it works fine with Knoppix?
[05:58] <levander> coraline: so, what do they use?
[05:58] <coraline> not even Sun uses it & they invented NIS+
[05:58] <coraline> LDAP
[05:58] <shiester_mieste> what does "affinity" do?
[05:58] <Evilbadwrong> So...anyone get an ATI X1300 Pro video card working in Feisty, yet?
[05:59] <macogw> pjman: because knoppix has amazing hardware support
[05:59] <levander> Sonicadvance1: you can *try* something like just putting the
[05:59] <levander> partitions back where they were
[05:59] <nwbie> macogw: just another easy question for you, how can I mount a drive when it is not mounted automatically?
[05:59] <macogw> pjman: thats my standard answer
[05:59] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, affinity?  where is that?
[05:59] <coraline> X500 is too complicated, so people use LDAP
[05:59] <shiester_mieste> xtknight, dont worry, i figured it out
[05:59] <Stwange> when I press ctrl+z in terminal, it won't let me QUIT afterwards, is there a better way to halt unwanted programs?
[05:59] <pjman> macogw: nice :-)
[05:59] <levander> Sonicadvance1: there are raw disk editors that are hard to learn
[05:59] <levander> to use that you could look into
[05:59] <macogw> nwbie: you can always right-click in in "computer" but if you mean you want it to mount itself on boot, youd have to add it to /etc/fstab
[05:59] <Evilbadwrong> Anyone? Anyone?
[05:59] <coraline> nwbie: man mount
[05:59] <levander> Sonicadvance1: if the data is that important though, you're
[05:59] <levander> probably better off paying someone to do the disk editor stuff.
[05:59] <coraline> man fstab
[05:59] <Sonicadvance1> eh, that may be hard
[06:00] <nwbie> macogw: You're awesome, thank you so much
[06:00] <dr_willis> Stwange,  go read a bash guide or 3.. the chapters on 'job control' use ctrl-z with the bg/fg command
[06:00] <Nutubuntu> levander, sry, I don't know a thing about NIS ... I was straining my memory to come up with the NT question ;)
[06:00] <shiester_mieste> oh well, affinity doesnt seem to work anyway
[06:00] <levander> /msg sonicadvance1 If you really want that data back, I'd post
[06:00] <levander> something on episteme.arstechnica.com to see what people recommend, in
[06:00] <levander> the Linux forum.
[06:00] <levander> damn
[06:00] <coraline> NIS..../var/yp
[06:01] <levander> sorry guys, typo
[06:01] <jimmygoon> shiester_mieste, those things ...should... work
[06:01] <coraline> formerly known as "YellowPages"
[06:01] <macogw> levander: that didnt work
[06:01] <dr_willis> Stwange,  normally i 'ctrl-z' bg, then 'exit' the shell
[06:01] <blackace11> mario wars is awesome!!!
[06:01] <shiester_mieste> when i try to run affinity it gives me this:   (affinity:21949): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_theme_load_icon: assertion `error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
[06:01] <Evilbadwrong> Can anyone help me get my video card working?
[06:01] <Stwange> exit isn't recognised, I end up just closing it with the X
[06:01] <shiester_mieste> why are they trying to assert that an error and a pointer to the error are both null :/
[06:01] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: if you have black clouds, put "noapic" in the boot option. if its anything else, i'm out
[06:01] <locke> what's the default torrent client installed with ubuntu feisty?
[06:02] <shiester_mieste> locke, bittorrent
[06:02] <coraline> bittorrent
[06:02] <coraline> you can install ktorrent
[06:02] <coraline> etc.
[06:02] <locke> the command is bittorrent from the command line?
[06:02] <Sonicadvance1> meh, oh well, 8 GB of Music is okay to lose and some programs on my Linux partition
[06:02] <coraline> any anything else you can apt-get
[06:02] <macogw> locke: gnome-btdownload, i think
[06:02] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Do you mean booting up to a black screen?
[06:02] <alex_> hi
[06:02] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: black screen with kinda grey swirly clouds
[06:02] <alex_> and the themes in emerald themes?
[06:02] <ferronica> what applicaton do i need to convert my DVD movies to Divx and Xvid ?
[06:02] <mavsman4457> jimmygoon, is there any way to completely backup my settings and whole system like the kernel that i've got right now?  i don't want to mess anything up and for the most part i am very pleased with the way things are runnning
[06:03] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: No...just black screen....I'm thinking that there's no fixing my problem...which is sad. :(
[06:03] <ferronica> i am using ubuntu Fiesty Fawn GNOME :)
[06:03] <pjman> macogw: I'm elaborating for you or anyone else that might be able to help. The Ubuntu LiveCD is not setting my video card's bus identifier correctly. It's detecting it as "PCI:4:0:0" when it should be "PCI:5:0:0". I've submitted  bug report but it's not going anywhare (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/119114) What can i do to help fix the problem?
[06:03] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: how far can you boot?
[06:03] <jimmygoon> mavsman4457, thats beyond my knowledge sorry
[06:03] <thesource> ok so i have open ssh now
[06:03] <vecina> !pastebin
[06:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:03] <mavsman4457> it's ok thanks
[06:03] <thesource> i can get it to start
[06:03] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Oh, I've reverted back to the generic driver now....but I couldn't even get to the login screen before.
[06:03] <shiester_mieste> ah, if i use the svn version of it, it works fine for a second, and then crashes again
[06:04] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: oh...what graphics card is it?
[06:04] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: ATI X1300 Pro
[06:04] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: and have you done the standard googling for "ubuntu $graphicsCardName problem"?
[06:04] <inflex> anyone know if the Fujifilm S5600/S5700 camera is supported in linux?
[06:04] <thesource> ok so i have open ssh now but i cant get ti to start
[06:04] <locke> how can i make myself a root user so that i can access my external hard drive, i have nfts-3g installed so i can change them as root, but i want to save my bit torrent files there, so i need gnome-btdownload to be able to access it
[06:04] <pjman> thesource: these links might help - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#SSH_Server - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH?highlight=%28openssh%29
[06:04] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: I have tried EVERYTHING...ubuntu forums, ATI forums, this IRC channel....no luck.
[06:05] <Evilbadwrong> Nothing seems to work.
[06:05] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: did you try this? http://etano.net/2007/06/28/ubuntu-dapper-dell-e521-and-ati-x1300/
[06:05] <shiester_mieste> Evilbadwrong, have you tried percussive maintenance?
[06:05] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: oh crap thats dapper...eh still try it
[06:05] <shiester_mieste> percussive maintenance has been known to work when all else fails
[06:05] <macogw> shiester_mieste: does that mean smack it?
[06:05] <dr_willis> Evilbadwrong,  for some ati cards, fglrx is very buggy, had to go back to the vesa, or other drivers...
[06:05] <shiester_mieste> just dont over-apply
[06:05] <shiester_mieste> macogw, yes it does ;)
[06:05] <shiester_mieste> and yes it DOES work sometimes
[06:06] <macogw> shiester_mieste: i have an example!
[06:06] <brussel> What's the proper syntax for the updatedb so that it captures the files on a memory stick, say at /media/CORSAIR?
[06:06] <DanaG> Argh, going from Dapper to Edgy on a system:
[06:06] <xtknight> especially for crts that make noise.. slapping them works graet
[06:06] <Evilbadwrong> dr_willis: Yeah, no kidding....
[06:06] <shiester_mieste> a few days ago my computer wasnt working, i gave it a small kick and suddenly it works
[06:06] <macogw> shiester_mieste: its from a computer stupidities site...lemme find it
[06:06] <Ha1> I have an issue with my quotes which is becoming a great impediment to my learning programming. Specifically, when I hit my quote button I get  for single and  for double quotes. No compiler or interpreter recognises these, as they are in actuality just accentuation marks. Anyone have any ideas they would be willing to share with me on how to fix this? [AltGr does nothing and Onscreen keyboard does the same as the real keyboard. Lay
[06:06] <inflex> What's a digital camera detection/using/downloading software in Ubuntu?
[06:06] <DanaG> gives me a helluvalot of /usr/share/il8n/charmaps/UTF-8:something unterminated symbolic name
[06:06] <xtknight> Ha1, you just have a standard english us keyboard?
[06:06] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: That's a bit advanced for me....I'm a newbie...
[06:06] <jimmygoon> inflex, fspot
[06:07] <DanaG> and syntax error in CHARMAP definition: invalid encoding given
[06:07] <Ha1> xtknight: TO the absolute best of my understanding, yes
[06:07] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: dude, its all copy and paste
[06:07] <dr_willis> Evilbadwrong,  right now   my laptop goes to a black screen when i logout of X, with the fglrx drivers. :(
[06:07] <Ha1> xtknight: It has worked perfectly with two Windows computers, as well as Linux LiveCDs and other Linux distros
[06:07] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Is it? Ok...I'll try....again.
[06:07] <inflex> jimmygoon: atm I'm not using Metacity/GNOME (just Fluxbox) so the whole 'automated USB' thing didn't work
[06:07] <Evilbadwrong> dr_willis: I feel your pain...believe me.
[06:07] <shiester_mieste> whats the command line for the "Install and Remove Applications" application?
[06:07] <inflex> jimmygoon: can't even find fspot in the repository
[06:08] <jimmygoon> inflex, oh, out of my league, sorry, er, turn on all your repos
[06:08] <xtknight> Ha1, ah ok.  well check your locale.  go in a terminal and type "echo $LANG"
[06:08] <shiester_mieste> i mean, the command line way of launching it?  whats the programs name?
[06:08] <dr_willis> Evilbadwrong,  but i do 'work' not 'games' :) so it dosent matter much
[06:08] <Slart> shiester_mieste: synaptic?
[06:08] <Ha1> echo $LANG
[06:08] <shiester_mieste> no its not synaptic
[06:08] <Ha1> Bah
[06:08] <shiester_mieste> synaptic is more heavyweight
[06:08] <Ha1> en_AU.UTF-8
[06:08] <xtknight> shiester_mieste, gksu gnome-app-install
[06:08] <Slart> shiester_mieste: ah.. you meant add/remove
[06:08] <dr_willis> en_au? thats for austrila?
[06:08] <shiester_mieste> thanks
[06:08] <ans> I tried to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 and the upgrade failed, because
[06:08] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: or dont bother
[06:08] <Ha1> dr_willis: Yeah, Australia. ANd shush, it was a copy error
[06:08] <Ha1> :-p
[06:09] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: reading comments on there it says on feisty that it worked in beta and then quit...so yeah youre stuck with vesa
[06:09] <dr_willis> en_US.UTF-8 - is what i got.
[06:09] <ans> "libsasl2" gives the error...
[06:09] <xtknight> Ha1, system->admin->Languages...set it to US.?
[06:09] <dr_willis> I wonder where this is even set at...
[06:09] <locke> how can i make myself a root user so that i can access my external hard drive, i have nfts-3g installed so i can change them as root, but i want to save my bit torrent files there, so i need gnome-btdownload to be able to access it ?
[06:09] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Noooo!!! I have no 3D acceleration! I can't play any games!!!
[06:09] <xtknight> Ha1, do you live in the US or in Australia?
[06:09] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: i mean, you probably CAN do what that site says, but probably wanna find a newer version if it exists.  could check ati's website
[06:09] <dr_willis> lockdown2,  just set up fstab with the right options to allow users to mount/write to them.
[06:09] <locke> nevermind i got it
[06:09] <Ha1>  xtknight: I live Down under, mate :-p. Yeah, Australia it is
[06:10] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: thats what you get for buying ATI. their windows drivers are barely usable
[06:10] <dr_willis> lockdown2,  but its proberly BEST to not be writing to ntfs if you can avoide it.
[06:10] <Slart> locke: if I were you I'd change the permissions on the external hard drive instead.. but that's just me.. if you really want to be root there's sudo and su
[06:10] <shiester_mieste> hal, me too :D
[06:10] <dr_willis> !ntfs-config
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: It says it won't work on feisty. :(
[06:10] <locke> ntfs-config only allows root access
[06:10] <Ha1> So, everyone, the upshiot is that Australian English is my locale type
[06:10] <dr_willis> !find ntfs-config
[06:10] <xtknight> Ha1, heheh..  well have you tried reconfiguring Xorg?
[06:10] <ubotu> Found: ntfs-config
[06:10] <ans> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libldap2_2.1.30-13.3_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during ./usr/lib/libldap_r.so.2.0.130)
[06:10] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: what does?  taht site or ati?
[06:10] <Ha1> xtknight: How, exactly?
[06:11] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[06:11] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:11] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: That site. Read the top paragraph.
[06:11] <Stwange> thanks for the help guys, short of some images, I've done pretty much what i wanted for today. Time to hit the hay, nite.
[06:11] <Ha1> xtknight: Im pretty sure last time I put effort into fixing this that I did some twiddling
[06:11] <xtknight> Ha1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:11] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: oh right.  umm...yeah youre kinda stuck.  you can install edgy and use that til gutsy comes out then upgrade twice
[06:11] <xtknight> Ha1,  hope you dont have any custom video drivers though.  you may haev to reinstall those.  or you could manually edit the keyboard portion of your xorg if you dont wanna do all that
[06:11] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Bleh....
[06:12] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: though i do NOT suggest switching to gutsy any time soon.  it is BAD for newbies.  its bad for not-so-new-bies
[06:12] <xtknight> Ha1, if youve already started you could just Ctrl+C out of it and go "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look at the keyboard section.  or post the keyboard section to pastebin
[06:12] <sparr> uoq s,ndo 
[06:12] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: my computer stayed screwy even after feisty hit stable thanks to 4 months of unstable
[06:12] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Honestly? I may just forget about ubuntu altogether. My patience is wearing really thin on this stupid issue.
[06:12] <Ha1> xtnight: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:12] <Ha1>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070702141201
[06:12] <Ha1> xtnight: I have the nVidia pty. drivers installed
[06:13] <shane_> anyone good with gdesklets? I can't connect to the daemon
[06:13] <xtknight> Ha1, well you may have to reinstall those.  but press ctrl alt backspace to kill/restart your desktop and see if the keyboard thing is fixed
[06:13] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: you could look around and see if another distro works with it
[06:13] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: debian or fedora or sabayon might work (sabayon is not for older computers)
[06:13] <Evilbadwrong> macogw: Well, Ubuntu is the most user-friendly, so I doubt anything else will work any better....
[06:13] <Ha1> xtknight: What exactly do I need to edit before restarting?
[06:14] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: sabayon has GREAT graphics support
[06:14] <Evilbadwrong> for me, that is.
[06:14] <xtknight> Ha1, it looks as though you already finished dpkg-reconfigure?  you can just restart after that.  doing so would have already reset your keyboard sttuff
[06:14] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: eh thats subjective.  fedora, mandriva, and opensuse have all been considered "easiest" at various points in time, and they are all very easy too
[06:14] <Evilbadwrong> I guess I'll just wait around for when (if) this issue ever gets resolved...thanks for trying, though.
[06:14] <macogw> Evilbadwrong: they all have guis for most things (i think those others have guis for xorg configuration, unlike ubuntu) including installing and everything
[06:15] <Ha1> xtknight: When I reconfigured, It only asked me for my resolution, and when I answered, it gave me :
[06:15] <Ha1> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:15] <Ha1>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070702141201
[06:15] <xtknight> Ha1, ok try restarting X
[06:15] <Ha1> xtknight: Should it ask me for any more than that?
[06:15] <xtknight> Ha1, im not sure but im pretty sure it wipes the whole xorg.conf and then uses the defaults, plus whatever resolution you put in
[06:16] <ponicg> macogw, what was evilbadwrong's problem?
[06:16] <Ha1> xtknight: k
[06:16] <macogw> ponicg: dropped support for his video card between edgy and feisty
[06:16] <ponicg> macogw, Oh - which card?
[06:16] <ans> can anyone help with my synaptic package manager error?
[06:16] <macogw> ponicg: ati x1300
[06:16] <xtknight> !anyone | ans
[06:16] <ubotu> ans: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:16] <ans> ubotu: see above
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about see above - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <xtknight> !bot | ans
[06:17] <ponicg> macogw, Heh - ATI drivers aren't too good:)
[06:17] <xtknight> ans, it'd probably be best if you just restated it.  press up arrow a few times and return
[06:17] <ubotu> ans: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:17] <levander> Nutubuntu: I can use an LDAP server to store username/password combos that people use to log into machines on the network?
[06:17] <xtknight> ans, oh libsasl2 problem during upgrade of edgy->feisty?
[06:18] <macogw> !anything
[06:18] <DanaG> Argh, in aptitude, how do you select "leave unresolved">
[06:18] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:18] <DanaG> \?
[06:18] <macogw> ok who changed the bot?
[06:18] <ans> yeah, sorry I didn't get it all in one line
[06:18] <Nutubuntu> levander - IDK, think maybe you meant that for smne else ...
[06:18] <DanaG> !nothing
[06:18] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[06:18] <babarhaq> hi all, how i can use apt-get so that it doesent delete the .deb pacakges from cache after installation
[06:18] <macogw> that is not cool
[06:19] <levander> Nutubuntu: what I'm wanting is that I can set it up so that I create a user one time on the network.  He can log into any machine on the network with the same userid/passwd that I created (one time) - can I do that?
[06:20] <zombor_> can anyone help me out with my wireless problem...in dmesg i get a bunch of "bcm43xx: FATAL ERROR: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"
[06:20] <Ha1> Well, I am back
[06:20] <levander> Ha1: we've been waiting, where did you go?
[06:20] <cupps> How do I share a folder on my linux box with my windows box?
[06:20] <Ha1> levander: Restarting X
[06:20] <levander> cupps: you have to set up samba
[06:20] <brussel> Does anybody know the secret of getting updatedb to recognize and catalog files on a memory stick at /media/CORSAIR ?
[06:20] <n2diy_> IndyGunFreak: You still here?
[06:20] <levander> Ha1: restarting X does not take that long
[06:20] <Ha1> xtknight: Not a single improvement
[06:21] <cupps> levander I just set up samba per a guide... but it only covers mounting windows shared folders in linux.
[06:21] <Beriant> hey guys whats up,i got the alternate cd working,but i want to keep my music and shit but it says the minimum size i an use is 69% and that means i lose all my other shit anyone around that?
[06:21] <Ha1> levander: Also had to change the xorg.conf file to a backup, because resetting it to default killed off my custom graphics driver settings
[06:21] <Beriant> can*
[06:21] <Nutubuntu> levander, it sounds like a directory (e.g., LDAP) but I'm so far from knowing anything much about that ... really don't know how to help you with that question
[06:21] <levander> cupps: You use smbclient to do that, you need to use the server.
[06:21] <Beriant> anyway*
[06:21] <cupps> levander Can I just apt-get smbclient?
[06:22] <shiester_mieste> where can one download gnome-dock? theres no download link on the website, i cant find it with apt-get either
[06:22] <cupps> levander And is it tough to et up?
[06:22] <levander> cupps: No
[06:22] <ponicg> Beriant, what do you mean? 69% is the smallest you can make your old partition... I think
[06:22] <n2diy_> Beriant: watch your language, this is a family channel, thanks.
[06:22] <Beriant> ahh sorry
[06:22] <Takesinn> Hey
[06:22] <levander> cupps: To mount a linux directory onto a windows box, you need samba server on the linux.  To mount a windows directory on a Linux box, you need smbclient on the Linux box.
[06:22] <zombor> can anyone help me out with my wireless problem...in dmesg i get a bunch of "bcm43xx: FATAL ERROR: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"
[06:23] <levander> cupps: To do the first one, you modify the /etc/samba/smb.conf file.
[06:23] <Ha1> n2diy_:  Like all of the families that use Linux together with the little kids and sensitive ears :-/
[06:23] <Jordan_U> zombor, install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:23] <ans> I tried updating edgy to feisty and the upgrade failed, now when I go into Update Manager it says Software index is broken. When I go into the synaptic package manager and it says libsasl2 is broken. When I try to fix it and apply the changes I get: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libldap2_2.1.30-13.3_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during ./usr/lib/libldap_r.so.2.0.130)
[06:23] <Takesinn> Whats the absolute easiest way to make a .deb package file for Ubuntu?
[06:23] <ans> Any suggestions on what to do?
[06:23] <levander> cupps: to do the second, you just use the mount command (which in turn uses smbclient)
[06:23] <zombor> Jordan_U: i have that installed
[06:23] <nwbie> macogw: It's me again. I could not log in in my session. The cursor just hags with the screen in black before asking for the username and password
[06:23] <Jordan_U> zombor, Oh, nvm, I misread the error
[06:23] <n2diy_> Hal?
[06:23] <zombor> i have the firmare in /lib/firmware
[06:23] <Beriant> idk i chose the first guided option and it says the minimum size i can use is 69% out of my maximum which is 150 something
[06:24] <Beriant> and im just wondering if i go ahead and do it,will it delete all my other stuff.
[06:24] <macogw> nwbie: it gets to the login screen or is it the black background and white text?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Takesinn: checkinstall, but that will only be for your system, not shareable universally.
[06:24] <Ha1> Well, guys, anyone know anything else about my keyboard issues?
[06:24] <levander> cupps: you follow?
[06:24] <rixxon> Is it ubuntu being preconfigured for OpenDNS or did someone hijack my ISPs DHCP?!
[06:24] <Takesinn> hmm
[06:24] <Ha1> One guy once suggested editing my SCIM setting or something
[06:24] <Takesinn> tonyyarusso: I want to share it tho :>
[06:24] <brussel> ans, make a backup and reinstall!
[06:24] <n2diy_> Beriant: 150 what, megs or gigs?
[06:24] <Beriant> gigs
[06:24] <Jordan_U> rixxon, Check your router's config
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Takesinn: Then read the /topic of #ubuntu-motu and start learning :)
[06:24] <nwbie> actually, none of those, It only appears the cursor circle right after the ubuntu logo, and it hangs there forever
[06:25] <nwbie> macogw:  actually, none of those, It only appears the cursor circle right after the ubuntu logo, and it hangs there foreve
[06:25] <brussel> hal, copy the standard quotation mark from something that works and paste it in
[06:25] <macogw> nwbie: O_o uhhh
[06:25] <n2diy_> Beriant: you only need 3 gig for a Ubuntu install.
[06:25] <cupps> levander Thank you. I know how to do the mount one. I am trying to figure out what to edit in samba.conf to mount a linux folder to windows.
[06:25] <macogw> brussel: sounds like what i do about the character map on here being rather stupid
[06:25] <Ha1> brussel: You know, thatd be fine and all. Unless Im writing a program with more than two lines in it and may need to keep my pasting abilities
[06:25] <nwbie> macogw: I tried with a previous configuration, but still the same problem
[06:25] <Beriant> alright,im in the partition screen or w/e so i can have the first partition windows and second ubunut
[06:25] <levander> cupps: I've done it before, but don't have it memorized. It was a pain the first time, but I figured it out in a few hours.
[06:25] <macogw> nwbie: what do you mean by "previous configuration"?
[06:26] <macogw> nwbie: how did you do it
[06:26] <levander> cupps: I think I just used the Samba HOWTO, don't remember.
[06:26] <brussel> hal, find the key that works and paste it into the configuration for vim
[06:26] <Beriant> and i just want to make sure its not going to delete the other partition in order to create the second one
[06:26] <cupps> levander Okay, I'll look it up. :) Appreciate the help.
[06:26] <rixxon> Jordan_U: you're right. It would seem, for some reason, mums oh-so-smart partner changed the DNS to static opendns ones. :/
[06:26] <brussel> hal, once you have located the right key then you can map it to the key it's suppose to be on.
[06:26] <nwbie> macogw: when the pc boots, there is a windows that lets me select between ubuntu and windows, each time I update something, a new configuration thing appears
[06:27] <Ha1> brussel: I havent a clue how to do any of that
[06:27] <macogw> nwbie: .... no a new option shows up for new kernels
[06:27] <n2diy_> Beriant: Nothing is quaranteed, so you shoud back up your stuff, but Ubuntu/linux is good with playing with/creating partitions.
[06:27] <nwbie> macogw: then I guess I selected a previous kernel version
[06:28] <macogw> nwbie: that just loads a different kernel but all the other files on there are the same regardless of kernel
[06:28] <brussel> hal, your vi program has a configuration file to let you remap keys. it's very handy when you do lots of programming to map it. the people on the #vim channel are actually very helpful.
[06:28] <Beriant> kk,ima just go with it and if i lose my music oh well,i can just get it again somehow lol,thx for the help though
[06:28] <Beriant> peace
[06:28] <Za----> Hello i'm kinda new to Linux but willing to learn new things. I was wondering what is a good IRC bot to use with Linux?
[06:28] <babarhaq> hi all, how i can use apt-get so that it doesent delete the .deb pacakges from cache after installation
[06:28] <macogw> Za----: bot or client?
[06:28] <nwbie> macogw: Is there any way to like copy the permissions from the live cd to the conf files of the hdd?
[06:28] <Ha1> brussel: Which would be great if I used vim
[06:29] <n2diy_> Beriant: GL
[06:29] <brussel> hal, what do you use for programming?
[06:29] <macogw> nwbie: im trying to think about this...
[06:29] <ans> can anyone help resolve this: I tried updating edgy to feisty and the upgrade failed, now when I go into Update Manager it says Software index is broken. When I go into the synaptic package manager and it says libsasl2 is broken. When I try to fix it and apply the changes I get the error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libldap2_2.1.30-13.3_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during ./usr/lib/libldap_r.so.2.0.130)
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Za----: I've used supybot myself (python)
[06:29] <eternalswd> anyone able to get amulecmd or amulegui to work with a running amuled?  I keep getting connection problems.  I have the server set to localhost the port set at 4712 and a password set.  when I run amulecmd, it asks for the password and I give it and then it says "Connection Failed. Unable to connect to the specified host"  I have set up remote.conf successfully, so I'm not sure what's wrong.  This is on Feisty
[06:29] <macogw> nwbie: youll have to get all the permissions back to the right thing, but the live cd isnt the same as the installed one
[06:30] <nwbie> macogw: ouch, I was afraid of that
[06:30] <Ha1> brussel: Emacs for Lisp [very occasionally] , gPHPedit, gedit, Eric
[06:30] <macogw> nwbie: and there are WAY too many files for me to go through telling you what they all should be :-/
[06:30] <Za----> macogw, bot. I'm useing X chat
[06:30] <macogw> Za----: what does a bot do?  i thought bots were just like ubotu and were on the server or something
[06:31] <shiester_mieste> macogw, they dont have to be on the server
[06:31] <shiester_mieste> they are just a script that does things automatically
[06:31] <macogw> shiester_mieste: oh
[06:31] <shiester_mieste> you could run one on your computer if you wanted
[06:31] <n2diy_> ! test | n2diy
[06:31] <ubotu> n2diy: failed
[06:31] <nwbie> macogw: so there is no "restore" option?
[06:31] <shiester_mieste> dammit how do i get rid of kiba-dock
[06:31] <n2diy_> ! ati | n2diy
[06:31] <ubotu> n2diy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:32] <shiester_mieste> i installed from source, would "make uninstall" work?
[06:32] <hypo> Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to make a "linking folder" like you would make a soft copy linking file?
[06:32] <macogw> nwbie: not that i'm aware of :-/ *maybe* on the alternate cd
[06:32] <macogw> shiester_mieste: yes
[06:32] <hypo> i.e. anything you put in the folder would be put into another folder
[06:32] <n2diy_> ! ati | n2diy_
[06:32] <macogw> shiester_mieste: or rather "should"
[06:32] <eternalswd> shiester_mieste, depends on the project
[06:32] <jbinder> wooo
[06:32] <jbinder> wooopooopow
[06:32] <jbinder> weeheee
[06:32] <jbinder> moomoo
[06:32] <shiester_mieste> yay, it worked
[06:33] <n2diy_> ! nvidia | n2diy_
[06:33] <Ha1> Hey! Does anyoen know if theres a file which you can edit instead of using the Language Support frontend? Specifically, to disable the Enable Support for Complex Characters thingy?
[06:33] <Za----> macogw, Its something I'm trying to do on another server. Makeing a triva bot for my mom that will be online all the time
[06:33] <nwbie> macogw: you know what, I set the permissions with the sudo chmod o-rw /path/, let me try with the other option you gave me, the thing is that I do not remember it
[06:33] <macogw> Za----: you wanna pester her?
[06:33] <jbinder> wooeeeee
[06:33] <Ha1> As it is, I can decheck the box, but on applying it just resets it
[06:33] <macogw> nwbie: what?
[06:33] <brussel> Does anybody know the secret of getting updatedb to recognize and catalog files on a memory stick at location /media/CORSAIR ?
[06:33] <coraline> dude.
[06:33] <coraline> I'm moving to Vermont.
[06:33] <macogw> nwbie: other option?
[06:33] <coraline> Vermont expanded the use of medical marijuana from only those with terminal diseases to those with some chronic diseases, too.
[06:33] <Ha1> Does anyone know if theres a file which you can edit instead of using the Language Support frontend? Specifically, to disable the Enable Support for Complex Characters thingy? As it is, I can decheck the box, but on applying it just resets it.
[06:34] <jbinder> poopooweeee
[06:34] <Brando> lol
[06:34] <sparr> brussel: i havent gotten it to read my permanently installed drives.  best of luck to you
[06:34] <jbinder> errp
[06:34] <nwbie> macogw: you told me to change the permissions of all the files, I used chmod o-rw /media/disk
[06:34] <n2diy_> brussel: is it in your path?
[06:34] <macogw> nwbie: you're probably best off with a re-install.  all the file permissions on your whole system got messed up when you first did "chmod o_rw /*/*.*"
[06:34] <Brando> ubuntu is cool
[06:34] <jbinder> errhoopeee
[06:34] <Za----> macogw, she runs a room but she just wants to try some different things
[06:34] <eternalswd> coraline, go to offtopic for that sort of stuff
[06:34] <hupoee__> please, help me? i have set a password to my dsl connection by pppoeconf, but now i need do change it. how  to?
[06:34] <sparr> macogw:  "chmod o_rw /*/*.*" ...  i hope thats wrong
[06:34] <Ha1> Does anyone know if theres a file which you can edit instead of using the Language Support frontend? Specifically, to disable the Enable Support for Complex Characters thingy? As it is, I can decheck the box, but on applying it just resets it.
[06:35] <macogw> Za----: aw but pestering mothers is fun...they get to pester their kids all the time
[06:35] <Brando> hupoee: does it got a reset button?
[06:35] <macogw> sparr: thats what he did to screw it up
[06:35] <sparr> Does anyone know how to make Ha1 stop repeating?
[06:35] <n2diy_> coraline: cool! about time.
[06:35] <jbinder> mooop
[06:35] <sparr> Does anyone know how to make Ha1 stop repeating?
[06:35] <brussel> n2diy_, it's at the path of /media/CORSAIR/... I'm thinking maybe I need to mount it
[06:35] <macogw> sparr: trying to see if we can UN-screw it
[06:35] <hupoee__> bra: no. at least i havent found nothing like that.
[06:35] <Ha1> sparr: Quite simple, try and help me :-p
[06:35] <brussel> Hal, try stty. I don't know exactly how it works but it might do what you need.
[06:35] <Brando> :'(
[06:35] <Ha1> stty?
[06:35] <armysgt> I am totally new to linux and Ubuntu and have a couple questions. Can someone please pm me for help
[06:35] <eternalswd> Ha1, don't ask every thirty seconds please, wait at least a few minutes.  If someone knows, they'll answer
[06:35] <sparr> macogw: almost certainly not.  since you didnt prefix it with sudo, im guessing he was root at the time.  this is why root is bad
[06:35] <jbinder> weeep
[06:35] <n2diy_> brussel: yes, that could be the trouble.
[06:35] <nwbie> macogw: shift.... let me try one last thing, what was the option with sudo that involved a number, that sets all of the files to 0440?, that you told me that I would have to set later my files to 777
[06:35] <blackace11> hello can someone help me with compiz fusion? just need help changing how i spin the cube
[06:36] <macogw> sparr: or rather, he did o+rw and that messed things up
[06:36] <jbinder> weehoopeee
[06:36] <brussel> hal, do a man stty
[06:36] <Ha1> eternalswd: As it is, my message is onscreen for about 5 seconds at a time
[06:36] <hypo> blackace11: press the middle mouse button
[06:36] <brussel> n2diy_, i guess i will try it.
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> !pm | armysgt
[06:36] <ubotu> armysgt: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:36] <macogw> sparr: so now attempting to get them to not be r/w for non-root (since theyre system files) and then set his ~ to the right hting
[06:36] <blackace11> hypo: that's wat i want... but not working
[06:36] <jbinder> wheeeer
[06:36] <armysgt> no prob
[06:36] <eternalswd> Ha1, you must have a very small screen then, only about ten lines had passed :p
[06:36] <n2diy_> brussel: GL
[06:36] <macogw> nwbie: you dont want them to be 0440
[06:36] <hypo> Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to make a "linking folder" like you would make a soft copy linking file?  i.e. anything you put in the folder would be put into another folder
[06:36] <hupoee__> please, help me? i have set a password to my dsl connection by pppoeconf, but now i need do change it. how  to?
[06:36] <jbinder> i need help wit ubntu
[06:36] <sparr> macogw: off the top of my head i wouldnt expect o+rw to break anything, but there are surely countless exceptions to that.
[06:36] <macogw> nwbie: directories wouldnt be 0440 for example
[06:36] <jbinder> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
[06:36] <ans> What should I do to remove a broken package that refuses to be removed?
[06:36] <jbinder> heeeeeeeeelppppppp
[06:37] <sparr> hypo: its the exact same, just (sym)link the folder
[06:37] <macogw> sparr: it was /etc/sudoers
[06:37] <Ha1> eternalswd: Thats a more general case. I have an 1152 display going on a 19 inch screen
[06:37] <jbinder> i hav problem
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> !ask | jbinder
[06:37] <ubotu> jbinder: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:37] <shiester_mieste> jbinder, if you need help why not just ask for it
[06:37] <armysgt> i've been trying to install packages that I've downloaded, however, when I receive and extract them, I get stuck and am not sure if I must compile them or not
[06:37] <jbinder> ubotu: wooo it no work
[06:37] <shiester_mieste> instead of being really annoying
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wooo it no work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <jbinder> how fix
[06:37] <blackace11> hello can someone help me with compiz fusion? just need help changing how i spin the cube
[06:37] <sparr> ubotu: how fix?
[06:37] <armysgt> I've tried using the make and gcc commands without success
[06:37] <sparr> blackace11: #compix or #beryl might be best for that
[06:37] <macogw> armysgt: you dont compile packages, you compile from tarballs.  what do you need to install that isnt available as a package?
[06:37] <nwbie> macogw: all right, then I guess I have no other choice. If I reinstall, are my files going to be there, or you suggest me to backup them first?
[06:37] <blackace11> ?
[06:37] <jbinder> i go 2 compiz berl
[06:37] <n2diy_> ! ati | n2diy_
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how fix? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <blackace11> are those programs?
[06:38] <jbinder> ????????????????????????????????????????????/////
[06:38] <macogw> armysgt: most stuff should be available through synaptic or add/remove.  to compile youll need to install "build-essential" through one of them
[06:38] <hupoee__> ANYONE ?  i have set a password to my dsl connection by pppoeconf, but now i need do change it. how  to?
[06:38] <jbinder> ???????////////////////????????????????/////////??????????////??????///??????///????///?????///???////???///??////??////?///???/
[06:38] <n2diy_> ! nvidia | n2diy_
[06:38] <macogw> nwbie: back them up if you didnt make a partition for /home
[06:38] <armysgt> samdump2 and bkhive... in order to test the security on my XP desktop
[06:38] <blackace11> someone get rid of jbinder!!
[06:38] <Ha1> hupoee__: Just rerun pppoeconf
[06:38] <dawv> i cant even install feisty....
[06:38] <dawv> it freezes in live cd
[06:38] <macogw> nwbie: and this time, make a paritition for /home so that when you reinstall your files stay put
[06:38] <hupoee__> it doenst run anymore like first time.
[06:38] <dawv> after about 5 minutes
[06:39] <Ha1> hupoee__: That is odd, it does for me
[06:39] <macogw> nwbie: and never change permissions on system files in future
[06:39] <hupoee__> ha1: :/ nothing eslse that i could do/
[06:39] <shiester_mieste> how does one install compiz-fusion?
[06:39] <dawv> ------------------i need help-----------------
[06:39] <nwbie> macogw: thank you, I learned this lesson the hard way
[06:39] <macogw> shiester_mieste: didnt i link you to a howto?
[06:39] <xtknight> Ha1, hmm..sorry went afk for a bit there
[06:39] <dawv> ----------------------i cant insttall  feisty-----------------------
[06:39] <xtknight> Ha1, i dont know.  check the SCIM control panel, that might help.  i know it helped someone else with a similar issue
[06:39] <Ha1> xtknight: The worst that happens is that I got shouted it by the rest of the room, its all good
[06:39] <shiester_mieste> macogw, did you?  i must have missed it, sorry.  can you give me a link again?
[06:40] <dawv> ------------------it freezes in live CD after five miuttes---------------------
[06:40] <macogw> shiester_mieste: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[06:40] <Naisenu> Torrents and my computer are having issues. I'm using the default gnome torrent client and have tried kTorrent. It was working perfectly until today now, it just won't work. I've tried two different torrent files from different sites. I just get "Problem connecting to tracker. urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused') Anyone have any ideas?
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> dawv: please stop spamming nonsense characters and just describe your question clearly.
[06:40] <shiester_mieste> thanks, macogw
[06:40] <Ha1> xtknight: I have done some scimming, but with no results. I can barely find my way around it
[06:40] <Nutubuntu> dawv,  that is really annoying, please quit it
[06:40] <dawv> i wasn't
[06:40] <Ha1> xtknight: Does you know if theres a file which you can edit instead of using the Language Support frontend? Specifically, to disable the Enable Support for Complex Characters thingy? As it is, I can decheck the box, but on applying it just resets it.
[06:40] <macogw> dawv: how much ram do you have?
[06:40] <eternalswd> Ha1, it likely sets a gconf setting, wish I knew which one
[06:40] <dawv> 704
[06:40] <nwbie> macogw: can I reinstall just the system files with the live cd, like a restore point with windows???
[06:40] <dawv> DDR
[06:40] <macogw> nwbie: no. you have to reinstall completely
[06:40] <shiester_mieste> err...it says on this howto that its not stable...is it more stable than beryl?
[06:40] <macogw> nwbie: backup your stuff
[06:41] <shiester_mieste> or superior to beryl in general
[06:41] <xtknight> Ha1, say you go in SCIM then goto Frontend global setup and choose English (AU)
[06:41] <macogw> nwbie: when you reinstall, make a partition for /home
[06:41] <n2diy_> Could somebody respond to this, I lost my audio alert for replies, and I'm trouble shooting my audio. I have it working in other apps, but not here, thanks.
[06:45] (djkorn_/#ubuntu) ok.. thanks.. blackace11
[06:45] (eternalswd/#ubuntu) babarhaq, it shouldn't
[06:45] (blackace11/#ubuntu) welcome
[06:46] (eboyjr/#ubuntu) How can I set the preferences so the splash screen doesn't show up upon start-up? I have Ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04.
[06:46] (blackace11/#ubuntu) i'm so excited i helped someone, cause i had to do that 3 days ago
[06:46] (blackace11/#ubuntu) i have vista, and ubuntu
[06:46] (blackace11/#ubuntu) with a VM XP
[06:46] (Ha1/#ubuntu) Wait there, xtknight
[06:46] (n2diy_/#ubuntu) babarhaq: that is strange behavior for apt, are you sure they are being deleted?
[06:46] (xtknight/#ubuntu) Ha1, aight
[06:46] (nwbie/#ubuntu) macogw: ok, how can I tell synaptic to not store the debs? is there an option there taht I can click on, or it has to be made with a command?
[06:46] (armysgt/#ubuntu) can anyone help me with samdump2 and bkhive installation? I'm guessing I have to compile them and have downloaded the build-essential package per macogw's advice
[06:46] (babarhaq/#ubuntu) eternalswd: I want to install same packages on a home machine
[06:46] (babarhaq/#ubuntu) eternalswd: I dont have fast internet at home
[06:46] (macogw/#ubuntu) nwbie: its an option in there
[06:47] <macogw> nwbie: you can click...easy to find. theres only like 5 tabs in synaptic's preferences
[06:47] <Ha1> xtknight: I can use my WIndows key as Meta... it works with that
[06:47] <eternalswd> babarhaq, so you want to install the packages from one machine to another?
[06:47] <blackace11> djkorn: let me know if you find it!!
[06:47] <Ha1> xtknight: Well, I have a workaround
[06:48] <Ha1> " Woot ", as they say
[06:48] <babarhaq> eternalswd: yup prob by copying the packages to usb drive
[06:48] <macogw> armysgt: read the readme?
[06:48] <nwbie> macogw: thanks a lot, sorry for taking your time. Since I'm learning to get used with linux, I will take the permission thing as a lesson
[06:48] <jpw87> hello, how do i partition my disk inside of ubuntu?
[06:48] <Ha1> xtknight: Cheers for the help you gave me, I have a working system
[06:48] <armysgt> macogw: for build-essential?
[06:48] <xtknight> Ha1, how did you fix it?  magic ?
[06:48] <xtknight> Ha1, :P
[06:48] <macogw> armysgt: for the thns youre trying to install
[06:48] <blackace11> jpw87: gparted
[06:48] <eternalswd> babarhaq, look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:48] <jpw87> i thought it would be an administrative takk but..
[06:48] <Ha1> xtknight: Yeah, I think it just became the right phase of the moon :-p
[06:48] <jpw87> ok
[06:48] <raddy> can anybody compile me a small ethernet driver for my ubuntu kernel?
[06:48] <ans> could someone help me with manually fixing a broken package?
[06:49] <babarhaq> eternalswd: sometimes they r there some times they r deleted
[06:49] <armysgt> macogw: the archives I downloaded for both didn't provide a readme
[06:49] <babarhaq> eternalswd: is it after some time?
[06:49] <macogw> nwbie: no prob.  i come on here and help when i'm bored.  do note, however, that you are now in the ranks of people who "clean up" their C:\Windows by deleting things
[06:49] <Ha1> xtknight: I type [shift, optional]  + [quote key]  + meta key, either WIndow or that funny little key next to it on the right
[06:49] <jpw87> eternalswd: thanks :) downloading it now
[06:49] <Ha1> xtknight: And it gives me correct quotes
[06:49] <eternalswd> babarhaq, maybe due to space, not sure
[06:49] <xtknight> Ha1, odd.  if i press my windows key during a keystroke it nullifies all other keystrokes
[06:49] <armysgt> macogw: I also installed build-essential per your request but can't even find where it was installed to and it's not responding under the terminal
[06:49] <drthunder> any idea how to recover a mysql database from a live cd?
[06:49] <arooni> hey folks!  i'm having tons of problems with dual monitors.  i have 7.04, and a geforce fx 5200 with the 'nvidia' drivers enabled.  i have tried twinview (could only get 800x600 on second monitor when i want 1280x1024) and xinevera (didn't work at all), both with no luck.... any ideas?
[06:50] <macogw> armysgt: build-essential is a meta-package. it installed the c compiler, make, etc
[06:50] <babarhaq> eternalswd: thanx anyway
[06:50] <drthunder> I can see the database, but it its permissions say i'm not the owner
[06:50] <blackace11> arooni: is it possible to get 2 monitors runing extended desktop?
[06:50] <macogw> armysgt: everything that's essential to build from source :)
[06:50] <armysgt> macogw: ok, I'll give it another try... thanx!
[06:51] <n2diy_> drthunder: so changes the permissions, or create yourself as the owner.
[06:51] <roe> anyone know if glxgears is supposed to peg the CPU?
[06:51] <raddy> macogw : can you compile me a realtek ethernet driver?
[06:51] <macogw> raddy: no
[06:51] <xtknight> roe, does it?  if so, you dont have gl acceleration enabled
[06:52] <roe> xtknight, that is what I thought but glxinfo |grep rendering shows"yes"
[06:52] <shiester_miester> back
[06:52] <armysgt> macogw: where can I find a list of the components that build-essentials installed? (what directory?)
[06:52] <arooni> blackace11: what do you mean?  isnt extended desktop... what i want (dual displays) ?
[06:52] <shiester_miester> apparently compiz-fusion doesnt like beryl
[06:52] <blackace11> oh
[06:52] <blackace11> ok
[06:52] <macogw> armysgt: i dont know if there is.  why would you need that?
[06:52] <shiester_miester> do i need to remove beryl before i can run compiz-fusion properly?
[06:52] <xtknight> roe, hm thats interesting.  no idea
[06:52] <macogw> armysgt: just read the readme's for the programs you want to install and do what they say
[06:52] <roe> xtknight, me either
[06:52] <blackace11> shiester_miester: i had to
[06:52] <macogw> armysgt: well dpkg can tell you, actually, but i cant
[06:53] <blackace11> google for a walkthrough on ubuntu site
[06:53] <armysgt> macogw they didn't come with readme files
[06:53] <blackace11> it will have you clear sim. programs. then installs compiz fusion
[06:53] <macogw> armysgt: ok then...is there an autogen in the tars?
[06:53] <slavik> getadeb ftw :D
[06:53] <drthunder> changing permissions of `/media/recover/var/lib/mysql': Operation not permitted
[06:53] <slavik> /ctcp
[06:53] <slavik> bah
[06:53] <RustySford> anybody here familiar with the electricsheep screen saver?
[06:54] <shiester_miester> ok ill try and run compiz again, hope it doesnt crash this time -_-
[06:54] <shiester_miester> :O it seems to have worked
[06:54] <n2diy_> How do I enable audio notification for a reply, in xchat-gnome? I had a hard shutdown this morning, and can't get it to work. I have audio in other apps working.
[06:55] <armysgt> macogw: not sure what an autogen is (i'm a real NOOB to linux!). I extracted the .gz file to /tmp which gave me the directories for both "packages" which included a file PKGBUILD
[06:55] <armysgt> macogw: but no readme
[06:56] <macogw> armysgt: i suggest extracting them somewhere where you can KEEP them
[06:56] <macogw> armysgt: for example ~/src (~ refers to your home drive) since uninstalling usually has to be done from the same place
[06:56] <macogw> armysgt:  pkgbuild might be the instructions
[06:56] <armysgt> macogw: ok, I'll move both directories to src
[06:57] <macogw> armysgt:  not /src, ~/src, dont forget
[06:57] <arooni> anyone got dual monitors working on a geforce card?
[06:57] <n2diy_> armysgt: you might have problems doing that, can you extract it to src instead?
[06:57] <armysgt> macogw: I opened pckgbuild which looked like programming code ( C ?)
[06:57] <Rex> hello all... a friend of mine is running feisty. He is messing with SMB, and needed to change his username. He did that, and now can't log in with the new user, but can with the old. He has no sudo rights thought. I thought maybe this had something to do with the group. No luck. Any ideas?
[06:57] <armysgt> n2diy: I'll give it a shot
[06:57] <macogw> armysgt: is it executable? and what idiots didnt include a readme?
[06:58] <cupps> I've read a handful of HOWTO's to no avail; how can I view a shared Linux folder in Windows???
[06:58] <macogw> armysgt: you could try going in terminal and doing "cd ~/src" then cd to the directory where its unzipped and "./pkgbuild"
[06:58] <ans_> if I download the feisty CD image, is there a way to install that without burning it onto a CD? My laptop does not have a CD-ROM or floppy drive.
[06:58] <armysgt> macogw: it's not executable, PKGBUILD didn't have an extention and the other file had a .1 as an extention
[06:58] <macogw> armysgt: extension? thats nothing to do with executable in linux
[06:59] <Jordan_U> !wubi | ans_
[06:59] <ubotu> ans_: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[06:59] <n2diy> How do I enable audio notification for a reply, in xchat-gnome? I had a hard shutdown this morning, and can't get it to work. I have audio in other apps working.
[06:59] <macogw> armysgt:  extensions are rarely used to determine what a file is.  the content determines it.  if you go to that folder and do "ls -l" does pkgbuild have x's in the long line on the left?
[06:59] <MalconRox> after 1 month i make my sond work, but now.. i have problems with the mic... someone know how to fix it?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> ans_, You can also use a USB drive if your comp will boot from USB
[07:00] <armysgt> macogw: ok, when I used ls, the files didn't appear green as with other executible commands
[07:00] <macogw> armysgt: ok
[07:00] <macogw> armysgt: where can i download them so i can poke around and see whats there?
[07:00] <armysgt> macogw: 1 sec please
[07:01] <johnficca1> Hi I have a thinkpad t40 with a cisco 350 aironet card, I am trying with no luck to get it working with wpa... any help wound be great.
[07:01] <armysgt> macogw: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/samdump2/
[07:01] <armysgt> macogw: and http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bkhive/
[07:02] <Nutubuntu> I remember there being an editor for the menus in Dapper ... can't find it in aptitude for some reason - anyone remember what it is?
[07:02] <jebus> hi could someone please link me to the ubuntu graphical displays help channel please
[07:02] <macogw> armysgt: thats not source code
[07:03] <arooni> hey folks!  i'm having tons of problems with dual monitors.  i have 7.04, and a geforce fx 5200 with the 'nvidia' drivers enabled.  i have tried twinview (could only get 800x600 on second monitor when i want 1280x1024) and xinevera (didn't work at all), both with no luck.... any ideas?
[07:03] <macogw> armysgt: i think those are packages for arch linux, given that url
[07:03] <ans_> Jordan_U: what if I
[07:03] <macogw> armysgt: youre gonna want either ubuntu packages or source code
[07:03] <ans_> err sorry
[07:03] <ans_> Jordan_U: what if I am already running Ubuntu 6.10 and want to install feisty over it?
[07:03] <armysgt> macogw: ok, thanks for your help!
[07:04] <ans_> e.g. I don't want to install from Windows
[07:04] <Jordan_U> ans_, Why not just upgrade?
[07:04] <johnficca1> I am running Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn, if that helps
[07:04] <ans_> Jordan_U, I tried and the upgrade failed
[07:04] <macogw> armysgt: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/samdump2 debian unstable packages are often compatible with current ubuntu releases, so this may work
[07:04] <Jordan_U> ans_, Failed in what way?
[07:05] <MalconRox> uhuuuuullll
[07:05] <MalconRox> pronto
[07:05] <MalconRox> agora sim
[07:05] <MalconRox> 100% funcionando
[07:05] <johnficca1> the network manager says the hard ware is not going to work
[07:05] <MalconRox> pra tudo que eu preciso
[07:05] <dawn_> has anyone tried installing the newly released eclipse-sdk-3.3 in ubuntu 7.04?
[07:05] <MalconRox> ops sorry
[07:05] <macogw> armysgt: they should defintely be source compatible (see "source package" at the bottom) and possibly binary compatible
[07:05] <macd> dawn_, the release from eclipse.org ?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> ans_, Failed in what way?
[07:05] <n2diy> I think I fixed my sound problem, would someone reply to this using my nick?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> n2diy, no
[07:05] <johnficca1> dose Linux work with WPA ??
[07:05] <macogw> armysgt: binary compatibility isnt guaranteed, but it happens
[07:05] <armysgt> macogw: thanks, one last question. when I do download files off the internet as opposed to Synaptic, then where can I find info on installing them?
[07:06] <dawn_> yes mcd
[07:06] <n2diy> Jordan_U: your right, the problem isn't fixed, thanks.
[07:06] <shiester_miester> ok...compiz has some problems :P
[07:06] <shiester_miester> back, btw
[07:06] <johnficca1> Anyone out there using WPA ?
[07:06] <shiester_miester> i have absolutely no window decorations, and i dont seem to be able to move windows around, at all
[07:06] <armysgt> macogw: I'm basically looking for a good tutorial for ubuntu so I can read up and save helpful ppl like you the hastle
[07:06] <macogw> armysgt: when you get a tarball, there'll be a readme. i suggest using "sudo checkinstall" (oh yeah install checkinstall) instead of "sudo make install" since then you can uninstall through synaptic
[07:06] <shiester_miester> is there any way to tell compiz to use the metacity decorations
[07:06] <dawn_> yes macd.. the one from eclipse.org
[07:06] <macogw> armysgt: when you get a deb from elsewhere, synaptic will recognize it
[07:07] <macogw> johnficca1: i use wpa
[07:07] <macd> I use it on feisty just fine, dawn_
[07:07] <syahreza> hiya im come back
[07:07] <n2diy> Jordan_U: again?
[07:07] <syahreza> in indonsia
[07:07] <Jordan_U> johnficca1, I am, as well as I am sure hundreds of people in this channel are, just ask your question
[07:07] <Jordan_U> n2diy,
[07:07] <macd> dawn_, and update it via eclipse update
[07:07] <n2diy> Jordan_U: nope, thanks.
[07:07] <dawn_> macd: how did you install it?
[07:07] <johnficca1> I did
[07:07] <ans_> Jordan_U, I forget the original error, but when I try to open the Update Manager it says the Software index is broken. Trying to fix that in the synaptic package manager says libsasl2 is broken, but when I try to fix it I get an error.
[07:07] <macogw> dawn_: if youre trying to get generics, those require java 1.5 and eclipse on ubuntu uses gcj (1.4 compatible) by default, i think
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ans_, Try running: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:08] <macd> dawn_, untar the package, and run the eclipse binary.
[07:08] <ans_> Jordan_U, yeah that gives an error too
[07:08] <n2diy> Jordan_U: again?
[07:08] <macogw> johnficca1: say it all as one question
[07:08] <johnficca1> Hi I have a thinkpad t40 with a cisco 350 aironet card, I am trying with no luck to get it working with wpa... any help wound be great.
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ans_, Can you pastebin the error?
[07:08] <DanaG> Does anybody know why my iAudio6 in MTP mode would still show up as a USB Mass Storage device?
[07:09] <dawn_> macd: it says that it requires the latest version of java.. but i already have java 5 installed in my box.
[07:09] <macd> it needs 6, dawn_
[07:09] <DanaG> Same issue here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=522369
[07:09] <dawn_> oh i see.. thanks macd. :)
[07:09] <armysgt> how do I determine what architecture I am using?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> DanaG, I don't know what MTP mode is but for iPods at least, being "enabled" or "disabled" as a mass storage device is actually a setting in the windows driver, not on the device
[07:10] <macogw> johnficca1: it might work with wicd, but not with nm
[07:10] <macogw> armysgt: what kind of computer is it?
[07:10] <macogw> armysgt: if its an old mac, powerpc/ppc
[07:10] <ans_> Jordan_U, sorry I'm pretty new to this. Pastebin? You mean just paste it here?
[07:10] <n2diy> armysgt: uname -a
[07:10] <armysgt> Dell XPS 410 (w/ Intel Duo Processor)
[07:10] <macogw> armysgt: if its a regular computer or new mac i386
[07:10] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ans_
[07:10] <ubotu> ans_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:10] <DanaG> On my iAudio6, it's a setting on the device.
[07:10] <macogw> armysgt: i386
[07:10] <johnficca1> macogw: is that something I need to install
[07:10] <DanaG> You can choose which mode it operates in.
[07:10] <armysgt> thanks
[07:10] <macogw> johnficca1: yeah
[07:11] <macogw> johnficca1: i mean, if the card doenst have wpa support -at all- that wont help
[07:11] <n2diy> Jordan_U: again?
[07:11] <johnficca1> and its called wicd?
[07:11] <ans_> Jordan_U, okay, let me give you the error from synaptic package manager first, that one is pretty short.
[07:11] <Jordan_U> n2diy,
[07:11] <armysgt> n2diy: thanks
[07:11] <johnficca1> it works under windows
[07:11] <n2diy> Jordan_U: nope, thanks.
[07:11] <macogw> johnficca1: but theres a lot of things where the card can do it, but the driver is written such that NM cant do wpa and then you need wicd or wifi-radar + wpa_supplicant
[07:11] <khin> hello, i have an mplayer plugin for firefox, but when i try to play the trailer at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480249/trailers-screenplay-E33164-6-3 i do not get a picture (though i do get sound)
[07:12] <johnficca1> macogw: ok
[07:12] <khin> i dont know what i need to install
[07:12] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[07:12] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:12] <con-man> lololol
[07:12] <n2diy> Why isn't my sound notification sticking when I select it from Edit > Prefs in xchat-gnome?
[07:12] <ans_> Jordan_U, E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libldap2_2.1.30-13.3_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/libldap_r.so.2.0.130')
[07:13] <macogw> khin: try the windows media player version option?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> khin, That trailer plays for me with the totem firefox plugin
[07:13] <Jordan_U> khin, Sound and all
[07:13] <shiester_miester> can anybody here help me with compiz-fusion, or is there another channel for it?
[07:14] <macogw> shiester_miester: put a # in front and youre good
[07:14] <james> how do i save a kde session
[07:14] <shiester_miester> ah, ty
[07:14] <khin> yeah i tried windows media player. nothing works.
[07:14] <Jordan_U> james, Try #kubuntu for KDE
[07:14] <shiester_miester> macogw, there is no #compiz-fusion channel
[07:15] <Jordan_U> shiester_miester, #compcomm
[07:15] <DanaG> #opencompositing will redirect you.
[07:15] <macogw> shiester_miester: there's 52 people in it
[07:15] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[07:15] <tic> Anyone using X.org-7.3? Can I have a xinerama-style desktop spanning two monitors, and have just /one/ of the monitors rotated?
[07:15] <khin> i thought mplayer was supposed to be able to handle just about anything
[07:16] <macogw> khin: i use vlc plugins i think
[07:16] <johnficca1> macogw: it says it can't find wicd
[07:16] <DanaG> mtp works in mysterious ways.
[07:16] <armysgt> macogw: that link you gave me installed samdump2 like a charm using the amd64 architecture... thanks
[07:16] <macogw> johnficca1: idk if thats in the repos or not...umm
[07:16] <arbeck> can someone help me with a fstab problem?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> khin, Usually everything but real media
[07:17] <johnficca1> no idk
[07:17] <khin> stupid mplayer. ill try downloading something else
[07:17] <ans_> Jordan_U, okay pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28188/
[07:17] <james> jordan how do i put the #kubuntu
[07:17] <DanaG> I usually use kaffeine with xine.
[07:17] <arooni> folks i have twinview and geforce 5200 and ubuntu 7.04.... i can get dual monitor working but i only get 800x600 on my second monitor (and i want 1280x1024).... but when i use twinview-settings i can't change the monitor resolution on the second monitor.... its stuck in 'auto'.... any ideas on how to fix?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> james, type "/join #kubuntu"
[07:18] <arooni> i mean nvidia-settings
[07:18] <n2diy> n2diy test
[07:18] <macogw> johnficca1: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573
[07:18] <n2diy> n2diy: test
[07:19] <Zoom`> hi guys.. just wanna ask how can my ubuntu box share internet connection to other windows pc on a local network..
[07:19] <arbeck> i have this line in my fstab: //Debian/web    /mnt/webdir     smbfs   credentials=/home/arbeck/.cred-file,fmask=666,dmask=777 0       0
[07:19] <arbeck> it doesn't work on boot
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Zoom`, Use Firestarter, it is very easy to set up with it
[07:20] <arbeck> but if i umount  /mnt/webdir and do a mount -a it does
[07:21] <ans_> Jordan_U, did that url come through okay?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> ans_, Yes
[07:21] <n2diy> Hello, is my sound notification working? Someone please reply to this, to test it?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> ans_, What happens when you run: sudo apt-get remove --reinstall libldap2
[07:22] <Jordan_U> n2diy,
[07:22] <armysgt> I was about to give up on Ubuntu and Linux but I see that there are lots of support from the community. Thanks for the help all. I'm out for the night.
[07:22] <n2diy> Jordan_U: Yea, it is!!! I had to run xchat-gnome from gksudo to reset it! :)
[07:23] <arbeck23> i have this line in my fstab: //Debian/web    /mnt/webdir     smbfs   credentials=/home/arbeck/.cred-file,fmask=666,dmask=777 0       0
[07:23] <dabito> #list
[07:23] <arbeck23> it doesn't work on boot
[07:23] <arbeck23> but if i umount  /mnt/webdir and do a mount -a it does
[07:23] <edsonma> nice
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> n2diy
[07:24] <edsonma> people still using irc...
[07:24] <edsonma> =O
[07:24] <khin> if i have both the mplayer and totem firefox plugins installed, can i switch between them or do i have to just install one to use the other
[07:24] <kab00m> why can i not successfully  select the Debian menu under the Main Menu settings?
[07:24] <ans_> Jordan_U, see line 30 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28189/
[07:24] <khin> i mean, uninstall one
[07:24] <dabito> wow..
[07:24] <dabito> surprising ppl come here =)
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> I remember there being an editor for the menus in Dapper ... can't find it in aptitude for some reason - anyone remember what it is?
[07:24] <dabito> dont even remember the irc commands
[07:24] <n2diy> Nutubuntu:  Yea, it is!!! I had to run xchat-gnome from gksudo to reset it! :)
[07:25] <edsonma> I also dabito
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> n2diy great :)
[07:25] <kab00m> it will not stay selected and I've "sudo apt-get nstal menu-xdf"
[07:25] <Adross> has anyone here used openarena?
[07:25] <dabito> so, is this like a support channel?
[07:25] <Adross> dabito: yes
[07:26] <n2diy> Nutubuntu:  Yes, now I wonder what other gremlins are waiting for me, after the hard shutdown?
[07:27] <dabito> i think ill come back some other time with a little thing thats buggin me
[07:27] <dabito> i dont know how hard to fix it can be
[07:27] <n2diy> Now I'm off to experiment with gaim, again.
[07:27] <khin> wow not only did this totem plugin not play the trailer, it crashed firefox
[07:27] <dabito> silly gnome crashes after splash screen, is there a way to track progress verbose so i could see what's wrong?
[07:27] <james> #kubuntu
[07:28] <rockets> khin:  use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[07:28] <james> # kubuntu
[07:29] <arooni> anyon eknow how to get nvidia-settings to let me change resolution on my second monitor (its stuck at 800x600)
[07:29] <awangga> oi
[07:29] <awangga> aloha
[07:29] <dabito> ullo
[07:29] <awangga> anybody here?
[07:30] <n2diy> Any idea why gaim is so slow to start up, compared to Xchat-gnome?
[07:30] <awangga> dont know
[07:30] <dabito> any idea on how to have a verbose splash?
[07:30] <Adross> awangga: what's the problem?
[07:31] <awangga> how to make vpn connection
[07:31] <awangga> ?
[07:31] <Adross> hamachi
[07:31] <Sonicadvance1> Found out that Ubuntu doesn't like playing with an IDE HDD that is set to slave and has no Master IDE HDD in front of it
[07:31] <Adross> or tinc
[07:31] <Sonicadvance1> :P
[07:31] <khin> Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[07:31] <khin> this is what i get with totem xine
[07:31] <awangga> with user interface?
[07:31] <n2diy> Any idea why gaim is so slow to start up, compared to Xchat-gnome? Please use my nick in the reply, as I'm testing audio notification also.
[07:31] <khin> with the windows media option
[07:32] <khin> for that trailer
[07:32] <awangga> hamachii
[07:32] <awangga> how about dial up connection
[07:32] <chicheng> no se loco
[07:32] <andrewww> Hey, i've got a problem on my hands.  Whenever i try to open a file which i made using recordmydesktop, it doesnt open in VLC player.  Other videos load and i thought it was an .ogg problem, but its not.  I converted them to AVI and i still get the same problem
[07:33] <n2diy> ! es | chicheng:
[07:33] <ubotu> chicheng:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:34] <Erdaron> hello
[07:34] <Erdaron> how can I check the version of Qt that I have installed?
[07:34] <n2diy> Any idea why gaim is so slow to start up, compared to Xchat-gnome? Please use my nick in the reply, as I'm testing audio notification also.
[07:34] <trenchant> are there any apps that can manage iphone?
[07:34] <fotoflo__> hey how can i get xmms to play m4a files?
[07:35] <Sonicadvance1> You got your hands on one trenchant ?
[07:35] <trenchant> yup waited on line at the NYC store
[07:35] <awangga> ok
[07:35] <n2diy> Could someone reply to me, with my nick, to see if I have audio notification working on gaim?
[07:36] <Erdaron> n2diy: is it working?
[07:36] <fotoflo__> n2diy, im gonna KILL you!
[07:36] <dawn_> macd: i already installed java 6.. where do i set the JAVA_HOME?
[07:36] <n2diy> Erdaron: nope
[07:36] <Sonicadvance1> Nice, so, in your personal experience of the 3 days you've had it, how is it trenchant ?
[07:36] <n2diy> fotoflo__: why?
[07:36] <fotoflo__> n2diy, nothin, just writing your name
[07:36] <trenchant> its really cool. but limited in some ways
[07:36] <trenchant> im used to the blackberry
[07:37] <Erdaron> trenchant: is the web speed really that awful on the iPhone?
[07:37] <n2diy> fotoflo__: ok
[07:37] <trenchant> web speed is great. i had edge on my blackberry.
[07:37] <trenchant> i use wifi more than anything though
[07:37] <trenchant> it will auto-connect to open networks
[07:37] <Sonicadvance1> Too bad I don't have GSM networks around here
[07:38] <n2diy> Good bye gaim, back to xchat
[07:38] <Erdaron> could someone tell me how to check the version of Qt installed on my machine?
[07:38] <trenchant> i thought GSM was worldwide?
[07:38] <dawn_> i need to set the JAVA_HOME for ubuntu 7.04.. where do i set this?
[07:38] <Erdaron> I can't figure out the package name
[07:38] <Sonicadvance1> There is only CDMA networks around here
[07:38] <khin> damn. its the same stuff with vlc player. sound but no video
[07:38] <kivio> hi
[07:39] <macogw> i just had a bug in my old computer
[07:39] <Sonicadvance1> also, have you tried Rhythmbox trenchant?
[07:39] <macogw> and that thing doesnt even have an OS!
[07:39] <kivio> since a few days every day at this time a cronjobs starts on my system. /usr/bin/find ran by nobody
[07:39] <macogw> or a hard drive for that matter
[07:39] <kivio> can someone plz tell me whats going on?
[07:39] <arooni> how can i get my monitors vertical and horizontal sync refreshes?
[07:39] <macogw> it had a REAL BUG
[07:39] <trenchant> i will right now
[07:39] <kivio> the thing starts every day at 7:30
[07:39] <Erdaron> arooni: try manufacturer's website, they usually have specs buried in there somewhere
[07:40] <khin> can anybody play the trailer at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440963/trailers-screenplay-E32394-10-2 . if so what are you using, exactly.
[07:40] <n2diy_> macogw: the first bug was a real bug, a moth in a relay!
[07:40] <ans_> Jordan_U, any further ideas?
[07:40] <arooni> Erdaron: well this is a no name cld
[07:40] <arooni> lcd .... :(
[07:40] <macogw> n2diy_: hopper, right?
[07:41] <kivio> khin, it's loading, dunno if it will play
[07:41] <kivio> seems to be pretty slow
[07:41] <khin> it will play the ad but not the actual trailer
[07:41] <Erdaron> arooni: it's a mystery monitor?
[07:41] <n2diy_> macogw: what's a hopper? (I'm so happy having audio notification working again, I'm not thinking straight.?
[07:41] <Erdaron> arooni: what happened to the tags on the back?
[07:42] <macogw> n2diy_: grace hopper, i mean
[07:42] <macogw> im gong to bed
[07:42] <arooni> Erdaron: its a vison monitor
[07:42] <macogw> i want out of the room with teh giant centipede
[07:42] <ans_> can anyone help, a package is broken on my system and I can upgrade to feisty because of it: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28189/ for errors
[07:42] <kivio> khin, it's playing
[07:42] <n2diy_> macogw: grass hopper? No, a moth, I believe.
[07:42] <khin> what are you using
[07:42] <macogw> n2diy_: GRACE HOPPER
[07:42] <Beriant> hey guys whats up im back,i need a litte help,anyone?
[07:42] <Erdaron> arooni: is it a laptop?
[07:42] <macogw> n2diy_: the name of the lady that found the moth and coined the term "debug"
[07:43] <khin> what plugin
[07:43] <macogw> n2diy_: at least i think tht was her
[07:43] <kivio> khin, mozilla-mplayer
[07:43] <arooni> Erdaron: no its a vison lcd.... its a cheap thing i bought at frys for $129
[07:43] <[z] en> hi
[07:43] <Nutubuntu> macogw,  yes, Grace Hopper and the story of the first bug - that was her.
[07:43] <khin> hmmm. i was too. but for me it fails.
[07:43] <Erdaron> arooni: do you have a model number?
[07:43] <n2diy_> macogw: Ummm, I think that was the lady that found the bug on the front of the locamotive?
[07:43] <arooni> Erdaron: V1923DB
[07:44] <kivio> khin, you probably have to use a more recent version
[07:44] <Beriant> can anyone help me,ive got a little problem with setting up ubuntu
[07:44] <floppyears> hi
[07:44] <floppyears> I'm wondering what to use: apt-get or aptitude
[07:44] <kivio> the latest stable of mplayer failed for me as well
[07:44] <macogw> While she was working on a Mark II Computer at Harvard University, her associates discovered a moth stuck in a relay and thereby impeding operation, whereupon she remarked that they were "debugging" the system. <-- from grace hopper wikipedia
[07:44] <kivio> i'm using mplayer from subversion and the latest stable plugin from the website
[07:44] <khin> hmmm. ok.
[07:44] <Erdaron> arooni: http://www.firingsquad.com/hw/5016/Vison_FV19/
[07:45] <Erdaron> arooni: all hail the all-knowing Google!
[07:45] <[z] en> hi erm i just installed ubuntu 7 server
[07:45] <arooni> Erdaron: you are a google master
[07:45] <[z] en> anyway to get the gui up and running?
[07:45] <arooni> i couldnt find it after googlin for 10 min
[07:45] <Erdaron> arooni: sometimes searching by just the company name helps, or a serial partial
[07:45] <Beriant> when you set up ubuntu for the first time and reboot,it does a series of checks then ask me to log in,ive got the username but i never assigned it a password..what do i do?
[07:46] <trenchant> rythmbox wont see the iphone.
[07:46] <Nutubuntu> floppyears,  there's a third alternative (and more) you should consider: aptitude. (Although I haven't tested this feature myself), if you've installed a pkg in aptitude and it in turn required other stuff to be installed - and later you want to remove the pkg - aptitude will also remove the other dependent stuff if nothing else is using it
[07:46] <trenchant> oh well
[07:46] <arooni> Erdaron: now if only you could help me get twinview working so that i got more than 800x600 on that vison lcd... (i can't adjust via nvidia-settings... resolution is just set to 'auto')
[07:46] <gerro> beriant: press enter
[07:46] <Erdaron> nobody knows how to check version of Qt that I got?
[07:46] <Sonicadvance1> Have your tried looking on google trenchant?
[07:46] <huz> how can i install an commodore c64 emulator ?
[07:46] <Beriant> i did,but it just says like invalid w/e or wrong login
[07:46] <Erdaron> arooni: I'm afraid I can't help you there... I'm very new to Linux
[07:46] <[z] en> anyone know how to login as root?
[07:46] <trenchant> yeah, i cant find anything
[07:46] <arooni> ah ok
[07:47] <gerro> huz: what the heck is a commodore c64 emulator!?
[07:47] <Nutubuntu> !root
[07:47] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:47] <Erdaron> ubotu: :)
[07:47] <huz> gerro: something for playing boulder-dash ...
[07:47] <gerro> arooni: what was your problem again?
[07:47] <Cuog> if I am connected to a computer via ssh and I'm running a program, how can I make it so that after I disconnect the ssh connection that program continues running on the server?
[07:48] <Flannel> Cuog: check out GNU screen
[07:48] <Pensacola> Cuog: add & at the end of the command
[07:48] <Beriant> it also wont let me type anything in the password blank
[07:48] <Cuog> cool thanks
[07:48] <arooni> gerro:  i have a geforce fx 5200 card... and twinview working.  but i only have 800x600 on the secondary screen (i can't adjust via nvidia-settings... resolution is just set to 'auto')
[07:48] <Beriant> all i can hit is enter,and if i hit says wrong login
[07:48] <Sonicadvance1> You may have to wait a while then(obviously(
[07:48] <khin> if i install mplayer from subversion in some directory will it screw up my existing mplayer installation
[07:48] <Sonicadvance1> A few applications will prolly come out in a few days
[07:49] <[z] en> so anyway to install gui
[07:49] <trenchant> i hope so. i'd love to get it working with ubuntu!
[07:49] <Sonicadvance1> Heck, I bet some developer already has it working and is just perfecting it :P
[07:49] <Beriant> gerro: still there?
[07:50] <n2diy_> macogw: Never heard of Grace before, but she is mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_bug
[07:50] <Sonicadvance1> Just got Ubuntu Reinstalled
[07:51] <Sonicadvance1> brb
[07:51] <khin> can anybody NOT play the trailer at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440963/trailers-screenplay-E32394-10-2 ?
[07:52] <n2diy_> khin: why would i not want to play it?
[07:52] <Tomcat_> khin: Seems not to work with mplayer.
[07:53] <khin> well, i cant play it. someone told me to install the latest version of mplayer but im just wondering if its something else, since im rather too lazy to do that easily
[07:53] <awangga> l
[07:54] <arooni> HWO CAN i find out which version of the nvidia drivers i'm runing?
[07:54] <bfdhud> Anyone have a link to a HowTo for installing the nvidia 100 series driver for Ubuntu?
[07:54] <RustySford> hello I need the command to tell ubuntu to use JRE 1.6 instead of the grc
[07:55] <klobster> what files should I be backing up?  any suggestions or weblinks appreciated
[07:55] <xenex> arooni, glxinfo | grep OpenGL version
[07:55] <RustySford> er the freeone anyhow
[07:55] <awangga> oi
[07:55] <RustySford> Need it for azureus
[07:55] <xenex> arooni, glxinfo | grep version
[07:55] <awangga> ada orang indonesia ga sih?
[07:55] <floppyears> thanks Nutubuntu
[07:55] <ans_> anyone know how I can fix libldap2? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28189/
[07:55] <ans_> tidak
[07:56] <arooni> i hey folks i've heard http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2914739#post2914739 here ... that i should get rid of the synpatic nvidia drivers and download direct from nvidia... is this stupid?  (i'm having trouble getting twinview to work properly)
[07:57] <[z] en> anyone noe how to install the gui for ubuntu server
[07:57] <defrysk> arooni, stupid
[07:58] <supirole> hi!
[07:58] <awangga> oi
[07:58] <awangga> hi too
[07:58] <Np> hi all !
[07:58] <awangga> iya
[07:59] <supirole> it's the first time that i get in the channel...
[07:59] <awangga> ok
[07:59] <awangga> whats up suprole
[07:59] <supirole> and, i would like to some body help me...
[07:59] <Np> 
[07:59] <Nutubuntu> !ask | supirole
[07:59] <arooni> anyone know how to let twinview let me change my monitor resolution
[07:59] <arooni> for my second monitor?
[07:59] <ubotu> supirole: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:00] <defrysk> arooni, run nvidia-settings
[08:00] <supirole> well, after many times to try install Feisty... and almost 1 month searching for suppor.. i renounce... :S
[08:00] <arooni> defrysk: my second monitor resolution is set to 'auto'  ... and i cant change it
[08:00] <arooni> it defaults to 800x600
[08:01] <supirole> 'coz i never knew how to configure my sound card and my USB drivers.
[08:01] <chump> hey whats the best program for adding a partion to the drive ubuntu is already on?
[08:02] <defrysk> arooni, click detect displays
[08:02] <defrysk> arooni, and see if that helps
[08:02] <ans_> how would I install feisty from within 6.10 without using the Update Manager?
[08:02] <supirole> so, i decided to install Dapper, and everything was allrigh, 'till i upgrade to Edgy... :S
[08:02] <supirole> now i'm on troubles.. :S
[08:02] <khin> if use --prefix=/somedir on a ./configure does that mean nothing will be installed on my system beyond somedir on my system
[08:03] <ans_> anything to completely remove edgy and replace it with a clean copy of feisty?
[08:03] <khin> er... some too many 'on my system'
[08:03] <ans_> ( I can't use a CD btw)
[08:03] <khin> damn. i cannot use english.
[08:04] <supirole> when i try to boot from the kernel of Edgy,... wont work. so i chose the past kernel.. and runs.. but i cant install the NVIDIA Drivers, 'coz i haven't the right linux-headers
[08:04] <ans_> like wubi-installer or instlux, but for running from Edgy, not Windows?
[08:05] <[z] en> so can like anyone show me the way to install gui on ubuntu server????
[08:05] <wizo> [z] en, install whatever you want on it i suppose
[08:05] <supirole> may anyone help me please?
[08:06] <takerofforsakens> hello everyone
[08:06] <bluebanana> My Rhythmbox is version 0.10.0. But: 1) copyright is 2005 and 2) http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/news.html has .0.9.8 as latest version. please advise, folks. thanks.
[08:06] <Cuog> [z] en: 'sudo apt-get install *your GUI here*'
[08:06] <takerofforsakens> anyone any good ndiswrapper
[08:06] <eboyjr> Why can't I delete this folder here: "/home/username" when I am on user "somethingelse"? What can I do to fix it?
[08:06] <defrysk> bluebanana, does your rhythmbox run fine ?
[08:06] <bluebanana> eyes
[08:07] <bluebanana> yes, defrysk
[08:07] <[z] en> wizo:i want to install the gui
[08:07] <bluebanana> what version of rythymbox do you people have?
[08:07] <arooni> defrysk: detect displays doesnt owrk.... resolution is still set to autgo
[08:07] <oh-charlie> anyone get their laptop's wireless card werking in ubuntu yet?
[08:07] <defrysk> bluebanana, then there is no prob , simply wait for the next version of ubuntu to get a later version of rhythmbox
[08:07] <inflex> hi, I'm using f-spot atm for getting images off my camera (PTF device or what ever over USB), is there a way I can just copy the files from the command line rather than having to go via f-stop ?
[08:07] <ans_> I have
[08:07] <wizo> [z] en, as Cuog said, sudo apt-get install "your gui of choice here"
[08:07] <ans_> oh-charlie: I have
[08:08] <Erdaron> how can i see a list of all the modules loaded into memory?
[08:08] <ans_> oh-charlie: but not when there was authentication
[08:08] <[z] en> oh
[08:08] <[z] en>  miss that
[08:08] <bluebanana> what version do you, defrysk, and everybody else have for Rythymbox?
[08:08] <takerofforsakens> is anyone any good with ndiswrapper issues?
[08:08] <defrysk> arooni, too bad, it looks like nvidia cannot detect your sec monitor properly :(
[08:08] <[z] en> anyway i tried that its says cannot find package
[08:08] <ans_> oh-charlie: err wpa athentication
[08:08] <wizo> [z] en, what are you trying to install
[08:08] <arooni> defrysk: so what should i do to tell it what it needs to know
[08:08] <[z] en> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:09] <defrysk> bluebanana, I run the latest version, but I am on gutsy gibbon which i cannot reccomend to you for its unstable
[08:09] <defrysk> arooni, unfortunately I do not know
[08:09] <defrysk> arooni, maybe someone else does
[08:10] <takerofforsakens> can you run a 32-bit linux distro and a 64-bit on the same harddrive without any major issue
[08:10] <jpw87> how do i resize my disk to fit another distro on it
[08:10] <jpw87> i have gparted but its locked
[08:11] <mo0osah> do sudo gparted
[08:11] <jpw87> i did
[08:11] <mo0osah> what do you mean by locked?
[08:11] <jpw87> well i can't choose anything
[08:11] <mo0osah> ohh, are you using live cd?
[08:12] <jpw87> i can't right click the choice and resize
[08:12] <jpw87> no
[08:12] <mo0osah> if the partition you are trying to edit is mounted, it will not work.
[08:12] <jpw87> i c
[08:12] <jpw87> well wow
[08:12] <jpw87> how can i go about unmounting it cause i tried and it says it can't unmount it
[08:13] <mo0osah> well that's because you're using it :)
[08:13] <mo0osah> you have to use a live cd and edit the partition....
[08:13] <jpw87> i know
[08:13] <jpw87> lol
[08:13] <jpw87> o ok
[08:13] <jpw87> so use the live cd and do it :)
[08:13] <mo0osah> yep
[08:13] <DanaG>  aRGH, now I'm working with two laptops: One with fn-ctrl-super-alt, the other with ctrl-fn-super-alt.
[08:13] <DanaG> Moving back and forth between the two... painful.
[08:14] <DanaG> I don't have any specific preference -- but both side by side is just torture.
[08:14] <mo0osah> DanaG: beryl?
[08:14] <DanaG> Huh?  I'm just talking about the keyboards.
[08:15] <DanaG> Or did you tab-complete the wrong name?
[08:16] <gerro> How can I use iptables forwarding for eth1 and wlan0, trying to use wireless laptop as bridge for another computer until I can get ndiswrapper going on that one :)
[08:17] <mo0osah> DanaG: Wrong channel :)
[08:18] <DanaG> aah.
[08:18] <DanaG> It's easy to do when using Pidgin and tabs.
[08:18] <DanaG> Scroll wheel on tab bar changes tabs.
[08:19] <ziroday> DanaG: same with Gaim
[08:20] <DanaG> Pidgin  Gaim
[08:20] <DanaG> s///
[08:20] <Beriant> i need some help with ubuntu,anyone willing to help me out a little?
[08:21] <jaypro> just ask the question, Beriant
[08:21] <Sonicadvance1> Gah, I'm having a problem with Grub again. Now I'm getting Grub Error 22
[08:22] <Beriant> alright,i installed ubuntu setup went fine and everything,and i get to the log in screen,and i log in but it just goes to a blank beiege screen with a small strip of colors in the middle
[08:22] <Beriant> and does nothing,just sits there
[08:22] <zen> ahh  still cant get the gui to install
[08:23] <Beriant> any idea whats up?
[08:23] <liwayway> hi. was able to run 915resolution on my laptop with GMA 950. how can i make the 1280 x 800 "permanent"?
[08:24] <jaypro> Beriant>i think ive gotten that before.  i didnt know what to do with it so i tried to install ubuntu again, and it worked.  i dont know.   someone else probably has a better answer for you
[08:24] <Beriant> alright,ill just wait for someone else to give me an answer and if not ill try re installing it again
[08:24] <Beriant> thx though
[08:25] <Senesence> I'v noticed that when I run gedit from terminal, that terminal is "busy" until I close gedit. Is there a way to run gedit from terminal, and still have the terminal free to do other work?
[08:26] <khin> now i tried building mplayer with --enable-gui on ./configure and it wont build
[08:26] <liwayway> hi. was able to run 915resolution on my laptop with GMA 950. how can i make the 1280 x 800 "permanent"?
[08:26] <eddyMul> Senesence: run gedit like this "gedit &"
[08:26] <zen> ahh finally solve le..
[08:26] <khin> yeah the & thing makes stuff run in the background
[08:26] <zen> forgot to setup the lan
[08:27] <supirole> is there some mIrc equivalent for ubuntu??
[08:27] <khin> XChat
[08:27] <supirole> may i transfer files .. ??
[08:28] <shane_> Hey all, every time i try to download a torrent, on any client, I get a connection refused error, but I can use GAIM, web radio, firefox...what can i do to fix it?
[08:28] <gerro> supirole: try xchat or irssi
[08:28] <Senesence> Thanks eddyMul.
[08:28] <eddyMul> Senesence: you're welcome
[08:28] <jaypro> shane_> i dont know if you want to be downloading sheit off of torrents....
[08:28] <ziroday> shane_: use a different port
[08:28] <gerro> supirole: don't grab the gnome thing its confusing try the regular one :)
[08:28] <arooni> can someone please take a look at my xorg conf file?  i've tried to get xinerama working but couldnt't :(... http://pastie.caboo.se/75312
[08:28] <eddyMul> supirole: yes, you can transfer files using xchat
[08:29] <jaypro> shane_> i hear the riaa, spa, (and one other company) are going to get a hold of the logs from the torrent sites
[08:29] <shane_> jaypro, only copyrighted stuff is bad to dl from torrent, a lot of Linux distro's are put onto torrents to help reduce bandwith issues
[08:30] <jaypro> shane_> why not download directly from the site then?
[08:30] <jaypro> shane_> if you are not getting copyrighted stuff
[08:31] <Flannel> jaypro: because torrents are faster often times, and they don't hammer distros servers
[08:31] <xenex> jaypro, if you want to help save the server's bandwidth, that is all
[08:31] <shane_> can someone explain to jaypro why we use bittorrent for linux distro's, etc instead of ftp/http downloading?
[08:32] <jaypro> shane_> all im saying is, that if you cant grab it from the torrents, why not download it from site... that is all
[08:32] <shane_> jaypro, the content is the issue. linux is open-source meaning its ok to make torrents of and share. its not ok to do mp3,movies, that kind of stuff
[08:32] <shane_> jaypro, sometimes a torrent is the only way to get it
[08:32] <ComunisTico> hi im using kubuntu but I cant empty my trash can
[08:33] <jaypro> shane_> what distro
[08:33] <eddyMul> jaypro: people often pay hosting by bandwidth, so serving distros via HTTP/FTP might not be economical for some people
[08:33] <ComunisTico> how can u empty the trash can via the terminal?
[08:34] <eddyMul> ComunisTico: good question. I've also do it by deleting the files in ~/.Trash/. But I'm curious for the "proper" way of doing it.
[08:34] <shane_> ziroday, any other ideas?
[08:34] <gerro> ComunisTico: do ls -a to see hidden files in your home directory
[08:34] <ComunisTico> ok
[08:34] <ziroday> shane_ no only try use a diff client or make sure the port is open
[08:34] <gerro> eddyMul: that is the "proper" way of deleting it from terminal
[08:35] <ziroday> shane_ on iptables and the router
[08:35] <eddyMul> gerro: I guess so.   :)
[08:35] <ComunisTico> roberto@roberto-laptop:~$ do ls -a
[08:35] <ComunisTico> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[08:35] <ComunisTico> thats what  got...
[08:35] <shane_> ziroday, i have a motorola surfboard modem, no router what do i do on iptables
[08:35] <gerro> ComunisTico: omg you don't know about the ls command? www.linux.org they got nice guide for command line beginners what I meant was "ls -a"
[08:36] <liwayway> help me re: GMA 950-powered laptop. have been able to use 915resolution to install 1280x800 but everytime I reboot, it returns to the old resolution. how can i make the change "permanent"?
[08:36] <ComunisTico> doh.... yeah i saw that... dont know why i copy/past all... :S
[08:37] <ComunisTico> and ok i go to the trash can and how do i delete what i got there?
[08:37] <shane_> gerro, we were all noobs once. this is the place for people to get help...comments like that are what scare some people away and keep them in the closed-source world.
[08:37] <arooni> can someone please take a look at my xorg conf file?  i've tried to get xinerama working but couldnt't :(... http://pastie.caboo.se/75312
[08:38] <eddyMul> ComunisTico: `rm *` to delete all files
[08:38] <ComunisTico> ok thanks :)
[08:38] <Schaduwfax> whats the default root password
[08:38] <DanaG> rm * is bad
[08:38] <gerro> shane_: he asked specifically for command line help, not the easier noob method, plz have some respect for fellow community members :P
[08:39] <DanaG> if you don't know where you are!
[08:39] <DanaG> Always use a path -- such as rm -rfiv ~/.Trash
[08:39] <DanaG> Or if you know you've cd'd to ~/.Trash
[08:39] <gerro> ComunisTico: rm -Rf * so it deletes sub directories and forces delete on symbolic links (like shortcut thingies)
[08:39] <shane_> gerro, noted, seemed like you were bullying, sorry for butting in, almost sounded like you were on #gentoo
[08:40] <Sonicadvance1> Dang, I need help fixing Error 22 in Grub :D
[08:40] <gerro> OmegaCenti: yo sup
[08:40] <jettred2001> how do I manuly download some updates for ubuntu
[08:40] <kkathman> damn xchat sucks when you minimize - it goes away and you cant find it grrrr
[08:40] <ComunisTico> ok thanks done it, cause i had no more room left on the main  particion :)
[08:41] <bluebanana> I have a Q. I'm on Ubuntu. If I install a KDE program, KDE files will be installed. Does this mean that my computer will be slowed down with KDE library files only when the KDE app is running, or even when no KDE app is running?
[08:41] <Flannel> bluebanana: theyll only be in memory when that app is running.  otherwise theyre just taking up harddrive space.
[08:42] <Flannel> jettred2001: what do you mean by `manually`?
[08:42] <bluebanana> Flannel, hi there again. thanks. And how much memory do the KDE library files take up in RAM/memory (when kde app is running)?
[08:42] <Flannel> bluebanana: I'm not really sure.  I suppose it'd depend on the app.
[08:43] <liwayway> help me re: GMA 950-powered laptop. have been able to use 915resolution to install 1280x800 but everytime I reboot, it returns to the old resolution. how can i make the change "permanent"?
[08:43] <bluebanana> Flannel, well, i meant the lowest-common-denominator KDE library files... the files that ALL kde apps use
[08:44] <supirole> is there some app to bring remote support to desktop users...
[08:44] <supirole> ??
[08:44] <liwayway> help me re: GMA 950-powered laptop. have been able to use 915resolution to install 1280x800 but everytime I reboot, it returns to the old resolution. how can i make the change "permanent"?
[08:44] <jlund> bluebanana: Don't be paranoid about RAM usage. You can run in a mixed environment even on extremely old hardware. I have a Pentium 2 in the office that runs KDE but I use Firefox on it for testing a lot. It just doesn't matter. :)
[08:44] <ghostx> bluebanana, what program are  u trying to install that requires kde files?
[08:45] <bluebanana> ghostx, at this time, I'm trying to keep my system free from any kde programs (but interestingly enough, I have a .kde folder in my home dir). I'd like to try amarok
[08:46] <Flannel> bluebanana: I wouldn't know either.  But, we can guess... kdelibs4c2a has an installed size of 34396,libqt3-mt is 8916, and I imagine a good deal of that is documentation/etc anyway.
[08:46] <bluebanana> jlund, i'm that kinda guy who wants to maximize what i have
[08:46] <Flannel> bluebanana: well, you can always add them, check it out, then remove them later if you find it's too hefty
[08:47] <Flannel> bluebanana: oh, and kdelibs-data is 27804, forgot that one.  I imagine that's mostly real stuff too, not text document fluff.
[08:47] <jettred2001> Flannel: on the update manager I got this
[08:47] <jettred2001> You must manually run 'dpkg --configur -a' to correct the problem
[08:47] <jettred2001> E :cache->open()failed please report
[08:48] <bluebanana> Flannel,  thanks. Are you saying that any kde program installs just two "basic" files: kdelibs4c2a and libqt3-mt?
[08:48] <Flannel> jettred2001: and did you run that command to correct the problem?  (with sudo)
[08:49] <jettred2001> Flannel: how
[08:49] <bluebanana> Flannel, oh , i see you added a third: kdelibs-data
[08:49] <Flannel> bluebanana: Well, and kdelibs-data.  That's what it appears, yes.  Although, you could trace the depends yourself: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/amarok
[08:49] <Flannel> jettred2001: go to a terminal, and run that command (put `sudo ` infront of it)
[08:50] <jlund> bluebanana: Just don't be too insane about it. You'll drive yourself crazy and miss out on real performance gains by refusing to use certains applications. Rhythmbox is quite frankly pretty prehistoric compared to Amarok. Even if there were a measureable performance penalty (and there isn't) would it really be worth it to NEVER ever run anything that wasn't GTK? It just seems insane to me.
[08:50] <DanaG> I installed kcontrol so I can control how amarok looks.
[08:50] <bluebanana> Flannel, so ONLY 3 kde "library" files are installed for a kde program, correct. So are you saying that if i install amarok (a kde app), installing any additional KDE program will not install any more files but the KDE program/application itself?
[08:51] <bluebanana> jlund, ok. so it seems insane to you. what i would like to know is why. How little is it really that i'm losing out on memory/speed? that's what i want to know.
[08:51] <Sonicadvance1> Anyone Able to Help me with Grub Error 22?
[08:52] <Flannel> bluebanana: I'm saying those are the depends I imagine they all use.  If you go to that site, you'll see *all* the dependencies that you need.  (well, you also need to check out the dependencies of the dependencies and so on).  And you'll knwo exactly what packages are installed (a lot of those depeds will already be installed, because gnome requires them as well)
[08:52] <bluebanana> Flannel, you gave me the size of the 3 files. are those numbers also the same when in RAM?
[08:53] <Flannel> bluebanana: no.  That's disk space.  Any documentation or whatever that came with them wouldn't be loaded into RAM.
[08:53] <khin> well i solved my build issue with mplayer. turns out i needed to run make clean. now gmplayer is there too. yay.
[08:53] <Flannel> bluebanana: but, for amarok, there are further dependnencies you'll need.
[08:53] <Jamesinator> What is the password for the default "ubuntu" user on the Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop Live CD?
[08:53] <bluebanana> Flannel, right. i'm just wondering about the files that ALL kde apps need
[08:54] <jlund> bluebanana: I am telling you that will not notice any difference whatsoever. None at all. Having kdelibs installed and running Amarok (or any other KDE app) in Gnome isn't going to cripple your system or slow it down significantly. I am telling you to be careful of turning your desktop Linux experience into the equivalent of a teenage kid taking a Honda Civic and bolting thousands of dollars worth of garbage to the frame in an attempt to
[08:54] <jlund> increase its speed.
[08:54] <holycow> jlund, lol
[08:54] <bluebanana> jlund, using your analogy, i would have reversed the imagery... bolting things OFF the Civic. 8-)
[08:54] <holycow> great advice
[08:55] <ubuntubeginz> anyone knows how to set up OpenGL in ubuntu
[08:55] <bluebanana> jlund, i'm a newbie.
[08:55] <bluebanana> jlund, i've just heard that Kubuntu is "heavier" than Ubuntu. I hope you can see where my question is coming from
[08:55] <holycow> ubuntubeginz, just install nvidia, ati or intel drivers, depending on what videocard/cihpset you have
[08:55] <jlund> bluebanana: Just relax, install what you want to run, and enjoy. If you have a nice system it is going to be just fine.
[08:56] <bluebanana> jlund, thanks for the encouragement to relax. I feel relaxed now that you've explained things.
[08:57] <ubuntubeginz> holycow: i am supposed to OpenGL programming... U mean installing the drivers is enuff for it...
[08:57] <jlund> bluebanana: I can because I was exactly like you when I first started using Gentoo in 2000. I compiled everything from source with very optimistic speed settings. I was tuning constantly. All of my efforts were totally worthless because I wasn't realizing any speed gains that even remotely approximated the amount of time I was spending trying to get the best performance.
[08:57] <bluebanana> it's harder for me to relax, jlund, had you just said "Relax" without answering my concerns. But you did. Thanks.
[08:57] <holycow> ubuntubeginz, oh thats a WHOOOOOOOOOOLE other question
[08:57] <bluebanana> typo: It's harder --> It would be harder
[08:58] <holycow> this is a fairly noob channel i thought you meant how to get ogl acceleration happening so you could run beryl or something
[08:58] <jettred2001> Flannel: it says that 'dpkg --configure -a' is an unknowen command
[08:58] <bluebanana> jlund, yeah, i hear that compiling doesn't help with speed
[08:58] <bluebanana> jlund, but isn't it true that Kubuntu is "heavier" than Ubuntu?
[08:58] <bruenig> jettred2001, check for typo
[08:58] <Beriant> anyone know why when i try to log into ubuntu it goes to a blank beige screen with a strip of colors in the middle and freezes up?
[08:58] <holycow> ubuntubeginz, don't kjnow anything about ogl programming , all you would need to do is google it however
[08:58] <holycow> ogl is an open standard and all the tools are in the repos
[08:58] <bruenig> bluebanana, bout the same really, if you need something light xfce is the way to go
[08:58] <Flannel> jettred2001: doesn't it tell you to do -A not -a?
[08:58] <jlund> bluebanana: It is hard because coming from Windows you really do need to be careful about what you install because there can be significant hits to performance. Linux is different. The apt package management system keeps things organized. The OS performance doesn't degrade over time etc.
[08:59] <bruenig> that wouldn't give unknown command
[08:59] <bruenig> that would give bad option
[08:59] <ubuntubeginz> holycow: i need to install OpenGl to do some skol work.. :) .. but it seems like mostly in windows environment.. dats why
[08:59] <jlund> bluebanana: On my hardware (Athlon 64 3000+, 1 gig of memory--not super impressive but no slouch either) Kubuntu feels faster.
[08:59] <holycow> well it really depends what you want to do, you have here a whole slew of free stuff
[08:59] <bluebanana> A question. So say I install KDEprogram1, which installs KDE library files. Then I later install KDEprogram2. If I decide that I wanted to get uninstall KDEProgram 1 and 2, how can i make sure it deletes/removes  all the KDE library files that my ubuntu computer no longer needs?
[08:59] <holycow> every language and toolkit will have its own ogl bindings
[09:00] <holycow> what ogl libraries you need i don't know
[09:00] <Beriant> anyone know why when i try to log into ubuntu it goes to a blank beige screen with a strip of colors in the middle and freezes up?
[09:00] <bluebanana> bruenig, about the same? oh.
[09:00] <bruenig> bluebanana, handled by package management, it does
[09:00] <ubuntubeginz> holycow: using c++
[09:00] <holycow> but it should be all there, even python programmers code up ogl apps
[09:00] <bluebanana> bruenig, are you sure?
[09:00] <jlund> bluebanana: Use aptitude instead of apt-get. aptitude will remove library dependencies if the programs that you installed them for are removed.
[09:00] <shane_> Beriant, do you have an nvidia card?
[09:00] <holycow> then you might want to look at qt toolkit, kde dev ide, and whatever ogl bindings exist for that
[09:00] <holycow> probably quite a few other options as well
[09:01] <bruenig> bluebanana, I mean that is what it is supposed to do I haven't look through the source code myself of apt-get, I would imagine however that if it didn't someone would have found that by now
[09:01] <jlund> bluebanana: But the whole KDE is "heavier" than Gnome thing is a myth.
[09:01] <ubuntubeginz> holycow: hmm, thanks.. will have to google harder then... thanks for insight
[09:01] <bluebanana> As you can all tell, my other worry is that if I keep installing programs (whether gnome or KDE programs) just to try them out, I may be stuck with unneeded files and folders when I do add/remove or synaptic -> remove
[09:01] <Beriant> shane: yes i do
[09:01] <bruenig> jlund, you are wrong, they both do that
[09:01] <holycow> ubuntubeginz, yeah the problem for noobs really is taking time to have your 'minds eye' adjust
[09:01] <holycow> there is just SOOOOOOOO MUCH choice that it takes a while for your brain to start seeing the trees for the forest
[09:02] <holycow> just give it a bit more time to soak in, it all become crystal soonish
[09:02] <shane_> Beriant, when did it start up did you change the xorg.conf or just install the card?
[09:02] <ubuntubeginz> holycow: currently i am just seeing the stars..  :D
[09:02] <jlund> bruenig: Is that new? It didn't back in the Breezy days when I first started getting in the habit of typing 'aptitude' instead :).
[09:02] <holycow> :) welcome to the dark side
[09:02] <holycow> its a marvelous universe indeed
[09:02] <bluebanana> jlund, oh. aptitude sounds a LOT better than using apt-get. Why does most everybody (e.g. ubuntuforums, ubuntuguide, here in irc, etc) give commands with "apt-get" rather than "aptitude"?
[09:02] <Beriant> Shane,i didnt change anything i just did the standard install and followed the setps
[09:02] <bruenig> jlund, well yeah new since 20 months ago
[09:03] <jlund> bluebanana: Sounds like apt-get and aptitude are about the same now :)
[09:03] <shane_> Beriant, are you on livecd right now?
[09:03] <bluebanana> they are?
[09:03] <bluebanana> i'm so slow with these things.
[09:03] <bruenig> jlund, difference is with apt-get is an option, need to do apt-get autoremove to do it, whereas aptitude forces it which generally is cool but on occasion might be against what you want
[09:03] <jettred2001> Flannel: it still says command not found
[09:03] <Beriant> na,i used the alternate text based one
[09:03] <bruenig> s/is/it is/
[09:03] <bluebanana> so apt-get is "smarter" now.... good to hear. Is it still to my best interest (and to every newbie's best interest) to use aptitude over apt-get?
[09:04] <jlund> bluebanana: Well they all tie into the same package management system which is called apt.
[09:04] <shane_> ok. tell me in your xorg.conf what it says in the Device section for driver
[09:04] <Beriant> how do i get to that
[09:04] <bruenig> bluebanana, they are essentially the same
[09:04] <shane_> Beriant, i bet it is a 7000 or better card too
[09:04] <bluebanana> jlund, ok. i'm learning a lot of new things with you and bruenig .
[09:04] <holycow> bluebanana, no there is no difference really
[09:04] <Beriant> the computer im on right now is diff from the other one,obviously.and yes its a 7800 gt
[09:04] <jlund> bluebanana: Happy to help.
[09:05] <shane_> Beriant, in a terminal, run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (without quotes)
[09:05] <Flannel> jlund, bluebanana, apt-get's autoremove (standard as of feisty, optional on edgy), makes apt-get have the same ability.
[09:05] <Beriant> shane,alright brb,let me go try it
[09:05] <bluebanana> I'm more of a GUI/point and click user.... Is add/remove OR synaptic as smart in auto-removing unneeded files as aptitude OR apt-get?
[09:05] <Lad> hello
[09:05] <holycow> bluebanana, synaptic uses apt get
[09:05] <Lad> i need help,i made a bunch of toolbars and now i cant delete them
[09:05] <holycow> its just a gui for it
[09:06] <bluebanana> Flannel, i see. I guess I just have to remember to use autoremove as a suffix
[09:06] <Beriant> shane,actualy before i go,where would i type that in at,when i startup the computer it goes  straight to the ubunto log in screen
[09:06] <bluebanana> I should make a big note on my computer "Note to self: when using apt-get remove, use autoremove"
[09:06] <Lad> even when i rightclick on them it dosent hae a delete option
[09:06] <Beriant> shane,after the bios and loading screen
[09:06] <core2duo_ftw> Beriant, how are you connecting to IRC atm?
[09:06] <bruenig> bluebanana, even if you just do apt-get remove, it will remember what is no longer needed and at any time in the future you can just run apt-get autoremove with no package at the end and it will clear it all out
[09:06] <Beriant> core2duo,im on a different computer in the house
[09:07] <core2duo_ftw> oh.
[09:07] <bluebanana> why would  a person choose NOT to use autoremove?
[09:07] <Lad> is this to small of a issue to ask here
[09:07] <bluebanana> bruenig, auto-remove will clear out what? all the unneeded files globally speaking?
[09:07] <holycow> bluebanana, because on linux things aren't setup to AUTOMAGICALLY start up ... things are sensible
[09:07] <bruenig> bluebanana, well like with your kde example, let's say I have one kde program, and I am going to install it but I know right after I install it I am going to install another one, I don't want to remove all of those kde libs when I know I will probably be reinstalling them in just a second
[09:07] <core2duo_ftw> Beriant, ok. new videocard? 7800GT or some fancy shit like that?
[09:07] <bluebanana> (I feel my brain cells increasing) 8-)
[09:07] <jlund> bluebanana: One thing that you should know is that most of the time leaving the supporting libraries installed doesn't hurt your performance at all. They are not loaded into memory unless another program is using them and they are very tiny so you aren't losing disk space. This is another area where you should feel good about relaxing. :)
[09:07] <Woosta> The libdbd-mysql-perl package is really old .. 3.002, but the debian paackage for  4.004 is too far into unstable. Does anyone know where I can get a more recent package that will install?
[09:08] <Beriant> its a nvidia 7800 gt 256 MB
[09:08] <holycow> on windows even the smallest app think it should be a service so you get windows people 'thinking' installing is bad
[09:08] <Lad> can someone help me with deleting panels?
[09:08] <Woosta> I'd just remove it and install the latest from CPAN, but too much depends on it
[09:08] <Beriant> ive had it for a while though so its not brand new or anything
[09:08] <holycow> on linux 'installing' simply means copying, you put the app in the right place and it doesn't do anything until you call up on it mostly
[09:08] <bruenig> bluebanana, no I mean let's say you just use apt-get remove instead of autoremove, apt-get remembers the dependencies that you no longer need and can uninstall them later if you do apt-get autoremove
[09:08] <bluebanana> jlund, very tiny disk space? really?
[09:08] <holycow> bluebanana, consequently, windows noobs also bitch about the inverse
[09:08] <bruenig> bluebanana, I meant uninstall it above
[09:08] <Lad> anyone able to teach me how to delete panels?>
[09:08] <bluebanana> jlund, if so, that's good. I thought files take up megabytes, if not, tens of megabytes
[09:08] <holycow> on linux you are expected to MAKE CHOICES about what you want the system to do, and you are exspected to configure stuff
[09:09] <holycow> windows users aren't used to thinking
[09:09] <core2duo_ftw> Beriant, this is what i did. i have the same card. honestly, you need to use another videocard to install, then get the nvidia drivers. then switch back to the 7800GT
[09:09] <Lad> lol
[09:09] <holycow> windows users aren't used to thinking
[09:09] <holycow> because frankly my dear, it don't matter
[09:09] <bruenig> Lad, right click remove panel
[09:09] <holycow> its up to you to decide if it does
[09:09] <core2duo_ftw> holycow, lol! XD
[09:09] <Lad> dosenthae that option to remoe
[09:09] <Lad> only cusomize and add items
[09:09] <Lad> and quit and restart
[09:10] <Lad> :(
[09:10] <core2duo_ftw> Beriant, you still around?
[09:10] <Beriant> core2duo,ye im here
[09:10] <Beriant> core2duo,im thinking if i have another one.
[09:10] <jlund> bluebanana: Well they can, but it doesn't slow things down. If no programs are using the libraries and they aren't running then they are like any other file on your system. Does the machine slow down when you have multiple wordprocessor documents in a folder? Nope.
[09:10] <Beriant> core2duo,so if i find another one i can just hook it up turn on the pc log into ubuntu do w/e and download some nvidia drivers,then put my nvidia back in and it should work?
[09:11] <bluebanana> Ok. so just to confirm... If installing KDEprogram1 made me get KDE_library_files, and I then install KDEprogram2 later.... if I uninstall KDEprogram1 first, will apt-get/apt be smart enough to now connect the library files with the still existing KDEprogram2 (for later, if I remove KDEPRogram2)?
[09:11] <Lad> anyone able to helpme delete a panel, right click it and there is no remove opton, my options arecustomize add item and quit and restart
[09:11] <bruenig> bluebanana, yes
[09:11] <core2duo_ftw> yes. that is what i did. there may be another way, but here is the problem
[09:11] <bluebanana> jlund, i see (re: documents analogy)
[09:11] <kraut> moin
[09:12] <Lad> helpmelol
[09:12] <jlund> bluebanana: Yes, apt-get is smart enough to not remove libraries that are still being used.
[09:12] <core2duo_ftw> Beriant, the "nv" driver is what ubuntu uses by default. it is a free open source driver. But that driver does not support our videocard atm. So you get digital trash.
[09:13] <bluebanana> another question... I have sometimes done "Show Hidden Files" while in Nautilus/Home folder. How come i still have some .foo_folder when I've already removed the foo program?
[09:13] <Lad> hi can someone help me delete a panel
[09:13] <core2duo_ftw> Lad, a GNOME panel?
[09:13] <Lad> yeah
[09:13] <Beriant> core2duo,ahh makes sense.so really theres no way around it until the "nv" driver supports our graph card?
[09:13] <Lad> i do so believe
[09:13] <bruenig> bluebanana, the configuration folders in the home folder are created by the program during execution, they are not installed by package management
[09:13] <Sonicadvance1> Right click on it and "Delete this panel"
[09:13] <Lad> dosnt have the delete option
[09:14] <Sonicadvance1> Orly?
[09:14] <bruenig> bluebanana, and so package management doesn't know they exist just like they don't know about documents or music or whatever else you put on it
[09:14] <Sonicadvance1> What options does it have?
[09:14] <Lad> customize or add
[09:14] <Flannel> bluebanana: two reasons.  First, "removing" only removes the binaries.  Config files are still there.  You want "remove completely" in synaptic, or --purge in apt-get to remove config files.  Second, the stuff in your home folder won't get removed ever by package management. It's yours to keep
[09:14] <bluebanana> bruenig, i see. don't you think that the removal of the .foo folder (configuration folder as you call them) should be automatically removed with the removal of the program.... somehow?
[09:14] <bruenig> bluebanana, package management can't know that it exists
[09:14] <Sonicadvance1> What version of Gnome are you using?
[09:14] <holycow> bluebanana, no why should it be removed?
[09:14] <Lad> how do i find out?
[09:15] <Flannel> bluebanana: what if you're planning on moving your homedir somewhere else?
[09:15] <holycow> why don't you think it SHOULD ONLY be removed WHEN YOU SAY SO?
[09:15] <bruenig> it is not a matter of whether it should or shouldn't be removed, it is a matter of it being impossible
[09:15] <jlund> bluebanana: No, you wouldn't want this because other data can be stored in those folders as well.
[09:15] <bluebanana> holycow, because there is no reason to keep the config files/folder for a program when that program is gone.
[09:15] <Sonicadvance1> system -> About Gnome
[09:15] <bluebanana> jlund, oh
[09:15] <holycow> bluebanana, clearly you have only worked on windows
[09:15] <Lad> actually i dont have gnome
[09:15] <bluebanana> holycow, 8-)
[09:15] <core2duo_ftw> Lad, is it the only GNOME panel open? Or a second/third
[09:15] <bruenig> bluebanana, just delete them, every once in a while I do that to make sure I don't have any junk in there
[09:15] <bluebanana> holycow, forgive me
[09:15] <bluebanana> 8-)
[09:15] <Lad> there are about 30 panels open
[09:16] <holycow> bluebanana, so if you remove your email software then magically your email settings should be gone too right?
[09:16] <Lad> just floating around my screen
[09:16] <holycow> i mean 'oops' there goes your email, your imap info AND your password, right?
[09:16] <bruenig> holycow, you make it seem like it is a feature, it is an impossibility, it is not like someone sat down and decided not to doit
[09:16] <Sonicadvance1> did you just right click add over and over?
[09:16] <bruenig> do it*
[09:16] <Lad> think so
[09:16] <bluebanana> bruenig, i have sometimes done "spring cleaning" of .foo folders in my home dir, but sometimes I can't remember if a folder with a cryptic name is connected with a program that I still have installed.
[09:16] <holycow> bruenig, good point, bluebanana what he said :)
[09:16] <Sonicadvance1> lol
[09:17] <Lad> i used the panel manger to add them clicked the plus sign
[09:17] <bruenig> bluebanana, like what name
[09:17] <Sonicadvance1> Have you found your version yet?
[09:17] <bluebanana> holycow, well, yes, if i remove an email program, i'd prefer to have all the settings for that program gone. Why would I like to keep them?
[09:17] <Lad> i dont see the gnome settings anywhere i dont think i have it, my xubuntu is fresh still
[09:17] <holycow> bluebanana, who is to decide?
[09:17] <bruenig> bluebanana, generally programs are pretty straight forward, they will be called .programname, any .local or .config or .cache or anything like that is not tied to a program or at least not one that you have likely removed
[09:18] <Flannel> bluebanana: because your emails/contacts/etc would be in there.
[09:18] <Sonicadvance1> oh
[09:18] <holycow> bluebanana, does it not make more sens to say 'keep settings by defaiult' ... only remove them with' suod apt-get remove --purge' command?
[09:18] <bruenig> if it were possible to remove this dynamically created files, a feature would exist
[09:18] <bruenig> but it doesn't because it is not
[09:18] <bluebanana> Flannel, bruenig , holycow ok. i think i now see the value of having the .config folder NOT removed with the removal of a program
[09:18] <holycow> bluebanana, i would say choice is good, although it seems to me you didn't notice someone up there telling you about --purge
[09:18] <Sonicadvance1> xubuntu? isn't the default not Gnome?
[09:18] <Lad> im nt sure
[09:18] <Sonicadvance1> Is it....Fluxbox?
[09:18] <Sonicadvance1> can't remember
[09:18] <bruenig> holycow, purge doesn't remove them
[09:19] <Lad> is ubuntu better than xubuntu?
[09:19] <bruenig> holycow, purge removes /etc config files, not home/user/.config files
[09:19] <bruenig> !best | Lad
[09:19] <ubotu> Lad: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:19] <bluebanana> bruenig, ok. I learned something new again. So there's /etc folder too with config files
[09:19] <holycow> ah i forgot ... heads up again
[09:19] <holycow> :)
[09:19] <Sonicadvance1> UBuntu uses more resources than xubuntu because of the different enviroment
[09:19] <bruenig> bluebanana, yeah /etc is where system wide config files are kept and those are installed with programs
[09:19] <BelialMkII> What is the package name to get the latest kernel sources, need to compile a few things in and wish to try that powertop app, or do i just need to grab them from kernel.org
[09:19] <bruenig> bluebanana, those are overridden by home folder config files which are per user
[09:19] <levander> Lad: xubuntu is always recommended for machines with less resources, other than that, it's preference
[09:19] <Lad> as for my panels are there any delete options anywhere
[09:20] <Lad> i have a good machiene
[09:20] <bluebanana> bruenig, should I also do "spring cleaning in /etc?
[09:20] <bluebanana> or is that where -purge comes in?
[09:20] <bruenig> bluebanana, purge will do it
[09:20] <levander> Lad: just go with the flow and stick with Ubuntu, there's a wider support base and more work put into it by Canonical (my 2c)
[09:20] <headcloud> can anyone help me with feisty fawn on a ppc g5?
[09:20] <Flannel> bluebanana: that's where --purge comes in
[09:20] <levander> headcloud: just ask
[09:20] <bluebanana> please confirm the command: is it apt-get --purge?
[09:20] <bruenig> bluebanana, it doesn't much matter unless you like a tight system or are concerned with disk space, I like to keep my stuff clean though too
[09:21] <bluebanana> I'll try to purge now
[09:21] <levander> bluebanana: "apt-get remove --purge <package name>"
[09:21] <Lad> anyluck sonic?
[09:21] <bluebanana> bruenig, yes, you finally understand me.. i like a tight system. i like maximizing disk space.
[09:21] <bluebanana> 8-)
[09:21] <bluebanana> levander, is there no global purge command?
[09:21] <bluebanana> what if i forgot to do a purge to a program that i've already removed?
[09:21] <valehru> Is there any way I can view a MS access DB from Ubuntu?  Just view the tables & data, nothing else
[09:21] <headcloud> i can get 6.06 to work but 6.10 and 7.0.4 give me a black screen after rebooting after install.  i believe this is due to my radeon 9600 video card but i don't know how to fix it cause i am brand new to linux
[09:22] <levander> Now that apt-get supports tracking orphans, should I just drop aptitude and go back to apt-get?  Will I lose all my orphan tracking that occurred while I was using aptitude?
[09:22] <bruenig> bluebanana, I don't like this particular aspect of apt-get, on arch which is what I use, it renames /etc/config files to /etc/config.pacsave so if you want to remove them later it is very easy to see whatever ends in .pacsave can go
[09:22] <levander> bluebanana: if by global command you mean can you leave out the remove and still purge, the answer is no
[09:22] <Lad> anyone else know how to delete panels in xubuntu
[09:22] <levander> Lad: right click on the panel, is there a "Remove Panel" option?
[09:23] <bruenig> bluebanana, it renames them to .pacsave after you remove the package that is
[09:23] <bluebanana> levander, no, by global, i meant removing <package-name>
[09:23] <headcloud> is there anyway to get 7.0.4 to work on a G5 with an Ati Radeon Pro 9600?
[09:23] <ziroday> headcloud: you need to install the radeon drivers (open source) and then tell xorg to use them
[09:23] <holycow> oh xubuntu ... Lad lol i don't think you can? i forget.  no one in #xubuntu?
[09:23] <Lad> no remove panel option
[09:23] <bluebanana> bruenig, renaming to .pacsave is with Ubuntu or with your ArchOS?
[09:23] <Beriant> core2duo,great i found an older graph card but the monitor now says out of range 35.4khz out of 79 hz
[09:23] <bruenig> bluebanana, arch
[09:23] <levander> bluebanana: "apt-get remove --purge <package name" does remove <package name>
[09:23] <Lad> im getting help
[09:23] <bluebanana> bruenig, I'm on ubuntu
[09:23] <bluebanana> 8-)
[09:23] <BelialMkII> What is the package name to get the latest kernel sources, need to compile a few things in and wish to try that powertop app, or do i just need to grab them from kernel.org
[09:23] <headcloud> well, the problem is that after i install, when i go to reboot, i see the ubuntu screen but then it goes completely blank so i don't even get a command line or anything
[09:23] <timfrost> BelialMkII, unless the driver you want to build must be built in the source tree, you only need the headers, supplied as linux-headers-generic
[09:24] <bruenig> levander, he means he wants to purge all the stuff that he has removed so far
[09:24] <ziroday> headcloud: press alt-f1
[09:24] <ziroday> headcloud: what happens?
[09:24] <bluebanana> levander, yes, but I want to do a global "apt-get remove --purge <all unneeeded etc config files> 8-)
[09:24] <Beriant> core2duo,still there?
[09:24] <core2duo_ftw> Beriant, yes
[09:24] <headcloud> .what happens when?
[09:24] <Beriant> core2duo,kk did ya see my message just before?
[09:24] <core2duo_ftw> can you even get to a terminal
[09:24] <bruenig> bluebanana, you may wish to create an alias in your ~/.bashrc that says: alias agr='sudo apt-get autoremove --purge'
[09:25] <bruenig> bluebanana, that way you can just do agr package and it will do all of that in the future
[09:25] <ziroday> headcloud: you will go into a command line terminal
[09:25] <Beriant> the computer that im installing ubuntu on,no but ive got a shitload of other computers in the house that are working
[09:25] <BelialMkII> timfrost: I'd like to use a different framebuffer, and well.... am used to compiling my own. Is there a package for the lot or will it cause troubles? Or should i head back to gentoo
[09:25] <bluebanana> what's "agr package"?
[09:25] <headcloud> ok, but i am a newbie so i don't know what to do at that point
[09:25] <levander> bruenig: bluebanana: oh, my bad, I don't know of one that will automatically go and purge every single package that has been removed, but if you know the name of a package that you've already removed and forgot to purge it, you can "sudo dpkg purge <package name>" - but you need to know the package name
[09:25] <bruenig> bluebanana, you have to set up the alias
[09:25] <bluebanana> bruenig, is that kinda  like a shortcut?
[09:25] <Beriant> core2duo,idk wtf is up the monitor is the graph card just to shitty or something?
[09:25] <Beriant> excuse my language
[09:26] <core2duo_ftw> no, Beriant your xorg.conf is jacked. reinstall using that card
[09:26] <bruenig> bluebanana, don't worry about it, just a tip not necessary
[09:26] <holycow> bluebanana, just out of curiosity, why are are you spending so much time on basically irrelevant questions?  :) i mean that in a friendly way
[09:26] <Beriant> core2duo,alright thx be back later and ill tell ya how it goes lol
[09:26] <headcloud> ziroday: would you be able to tell me what to type when i get the command line?
[09:26] <holycow> i would think INSTALLING stuff is way more fun than UNINSTALLING stuff
[09:26] <holycow> :)
[09:26] <ziroday> headcloud: sure
[09:26] <ziroday> headcloud: but i gotta go soon
[09:26] <holycow> find out what your box CAN do first, then figure out how to fix your screw up later :)
[09:26] <levander> Have people stopped using aptitude and gone back to apt-get?
[09:26] <bruenig> package management is the most important function of a distro
[09:27] <levander> If I go back to apt-get, am I going to lose all my orphan tracking that was done with aptitude?
[09:27] <holycow> bruenig, +1
[09:27] <bluebanana> holycow,  because resources are limited. my RAM/hard drive space/computer power is NOT infinite
[09:27] <Sonicadvance1> Hm, Still haven't had my problem solved yet
[09:27] <headcloud> ziroday: ok, well, if you have a minute i would greatly appreciate it :)
[09:27] <holycow> what? but ... how can that be?
[09:27] <bluebanana> holycow, what does +1 mean?
[09:27] <holycow> :) i kid
[09:27] <holycow> bluebanana, slashdot pun
[09:28] <bruenig> I prefer ++
[09:28] <hylje> -1, redundant
[09:28] <holycow> l33t
[09:28] <bluebanana> Off-topic. 8-)
[09:28] <jlund> HOT GRITS
[09:28] <holycow> heh
[09:28] <ziroday> headcloud: sure
[09:28] <bluebanana> I appreciate your help tonight/this morning, jlund holycow  bruenig levander
[09:29] <ziroday> headcloud: you in terminal yet?
[09:29] <timfrost> BelialMkII, if you really need the linux source package, the package you need is linux-source
[09:29] <holycow> morning? and what spatial dimension are YOU dialing in from pray tell?
[09:29] <holycow> *cough*
[09:29] <holycow> :)
[09:29] <headcloud> ziroday: thank you.  i'm booted in osx now so i will write down what you tell me and give it a try
[09:29] <bluebanana> holycow, morning equals anytime past 12 midnight. 8-)
[09:29] <bruenig> theory based questions are more fun than redirecting people to #ubuntu-effects and wireless
[09:29] <holycow> heh
[09:29] <levander> morning doesn't happen till you wake up
[09:29] <levander> anything before that is still night time
[09:29] <BelialMkII> thanks timfrost, was what i was after, was just away to set up symlinks etc and figured there would be an easier way
[09:29] <bruenig> I just woke up
[09:30] <levander> then it's morning for you bruenig, but night for me
[09:30] <bruenig> awesome
[09:30] <ziroday> headcloud: okay, boot into ubuntu, press ctrl alt f1
[09:30] <bruenig> it was morning for me at 11:50 p.m.
[09:30] <bluebanana> another question: I'm currenty not running any of the fancy compiz beryl stuff, but I have restricted drivers manager on. When ubuntu 7.10 comes, will it automaticaly "switch open" the advanced desktop stuff, which i hear is the default stetting on 7.10. thanks!
[09:30] <headcloud> ziroday: ok
[09:30] <levander> bruenig: you need to work on your sleeping habits
[09:30] <jlund> bluebanana: You're welcome. I really hope that you enjoy Linux and Ubuntu and stick with it through all of the questions. It is a fun learning process.
[09:30] <bruenig> I had a terrible headache, so i went to sleep at like 4 to sleep it off
[09:31] <bluebanana> (I have restricted drivers on for running google earth)
[09:31] <bluebanana> jlund, i don't see myself every going back to windows.
[09:31] <holycow> bluebanana, remember a couple of things as well
[09:31] <bluebanana> Ubuntu is my first. and it may well be my last OS / distro. 8-)
[09:31] <holycow> - linux isn't about marketshare or dollars, its about freedom.  freedom to own your own system, freedom to modify it and freedom from outside control and constraints
[09:32] <levander> bluebanana: I'd just wait and worry about it when the new release comes out.  They maybe haven't even decided what they are going to do yet.  Or, maybe they will change their mind anyway.
[09:32] <holycow> - once you get freedom, you will NEVER go back into your cage
[09:32] <headcloud> ziroday: what do i do next?
[09:32] <kazim59> bluebanana: thats not a good habit... keep changing distros ... like you change clothes
[09:32] <bruenig> bluebanana, don't be too sure on that, I thought that, there are many more distros out there
[09:32] <bluebanana> holycow, i like the $0 cost, too. 8-)
[09:32] <ziroday> headcloud: then input your username and password, next "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf", go to devices and under driver type in ati. then restart xorg with ctrl alt bkspace
[09:32] <levander> Yeah, but if Canonical doesn't make money eventually, there won't be an Ubuntu.
[09:32] <bluebanana> is kazim59 joking me?
[09:32] <holycow> - lik ein the matrix, you will never be able to tell anyone about freedom however, as they will look at you strangely as if you are crazy
[09:32] <holycow> :)
[09:33] <ziroday> headcloud: if that dosnt work repeat except type radeon instead, restart xorg, if that dosnt work than type in vesa then restart xorg
[09:33] <kazim59> bluebanana: not at all.... but do try at least 7-8 free distros before you land on your choice
[09:33] <bruenig> bluebanana, once you get really comfortable with command line and whatnot, it is not a bad idea to go on a distro rampage and install 1 a week or so
[09:33] <ziroday> headcloud: understood?
[09:33] <bluebanana> are you guys joking me?
[09:33] <headcloud> ziroday: yes.
[09:33] <lancerdragoo1> Hi, I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu installation, I keep getting a blank screen right before the LiveCD starts. I'm wondering if it's because of my NVIDIA 6600LE graphics card.
[09:33] <holycow> bluebanana, no
[09:33] <levander> It is wierd that most of the software I'm running right now was done largely just by people doing stuff in there spare time.  I guess there were several research grants and stuff like that in there.  Firefox has started making money...
[09:33] <holycow> go out there and try all distros
[09:33] <bluebanana> why try other distros if i'm happy with ubuntu
[09:34] <holycow> its an infinite buffet
[09:34] <bruenig> bluebanana, no I have used I believe 12 or 13 different distros, it is good to see what is out there ubuntu has its flaws
[09:34] <kazim59> bluebanana: not at all!
[09:34] <Flannel> bluebanana: no.  It's good to knwo whats out there. Just because you picked up something first, doesn't mean it's best/right for you
[09:34] <holycow> bluebanana, to gain knowledge
[09:34] <headcloud> ziroday: just wondering why 6.06 recognizes my video card fine, but 6.10 and 7.0.4 don't?
[09:34] <ziroday> headcloud: then youre good to go, if none of that works try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[09:34] <levander> lancerdragoo1: that's my guess too - graphics card - no, I don't know how to fix it
[09:34] <bluebanana> but Ubuntu is number 1. why try any thing less?
[09:34] <kazim59> bluebanana: there are other distros with $0 tag too... you can try them too.
[09:34] <bruenig> bluebanana, windows is number 1
[09:34] <ziroday> headcloud: new drivers
[09:34] <hylje> levander: development can be fun, too.
[09:34] <bluebanana> holycow, i have enough "homework" to do just sticking with ubuntu.
[09:34] <holycow> bluebanana, #1 for who?
[09:34] <kazim59> bruenig: where can i download iso for windows?
[09:34] <bluebanana> bruenig, bug number 1?
[09:34] <holycow> bluebanana, your redmond stripes really show through bro
[09:34] <vladuz976> i have ubuntu running on my laptop, I wanna create a slideshow for  trade show next week and hook it up to a projector. Anybody know whats good software to create slideshows?
[09:34] <hylje> bruenig: depends on the metric
[09:34] <holycow> bluebanana, you do know NOT everyone is the same right?
[09:34] <Flannel> bluebanana: Ubuntu isn't number 1, Theyre all different.  You don't have the same needs as some random guy down the street.  Whats good for him might not be good for you, etc, etc, etc.
[09:34] <levander> bluebanana: Just pick an interest and study that.  You don't have to study the different distros if that's not your interest.  Ubuntu is more than good enough if you have another interest.
[09:34] <ziroday> headcloud: sorry its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <lancerdragoo1> levander: I see. I wonder how I can install the NVIDIA drivers if I can't set up the core install...
[09:34] <bruenig> kazim59, missed the point, reread until you figure it out
[09:35] <holycow> some people like smooth peanut butter some like crunchy right?
[09:35] <bluebanana> holycow, the rankings show... i 4get where i saw. LinuxDistros.com perhaps?
[09:35] <headcloud> ziroday: thanks a lot!  i'll give it a try and hope for the best.  peace :)
[09:35] <holycow> why would ubuntu be able to satisfy everyone?
[09:35] <holycow> bluebanana, why do you care about rankings?
[09:35] <bruenig> bluebanana, distrowatch.org
[09:35] <jlund> vladuz976: OpenOffice.org Presentation works well
[09:35] <holycow> why would you care what others are using?
[09:35] <bluebanana> bruenig, that's it
[09:35] <bruenig> bluebanana, but that is not a ranking, that is how many hits the page gets per day
[09:35] <levander> lancerdragoo1: good question, wish I could help, maybe post something on ubuntuforums is nobody helps here?
[09:35] <ziroday> headcloud: good luck
[09:35] <ComunisTico> i got a question bout open office
[09:35] <headcloud> ziroday: thanks
[09:35] <bluebanana> holycow, i don't really. but ubuntu is made for human beings like me who is not technically astute
[09:35] <holycow> displace the ms mantra of 'follow the heard' and instead 'follow your own path' brotha
[09:35] <lancerdragoo1> levander: Thanks, I'll try it there.
[09:36] <ComunisTico> is there a way to make it less heavy on the cpu... cause almost everytime i run it it crashes
[09:36] <ziroday> ComunisTico: #openoffice.org
[09:36] <ComunisTico> ok thnks
[09:36] <holycow> up to you bro, your path to choose
[09:36] <texta> I need some help. my keyboard keeps locking up when it reaches GDM.
[09:36] <kazim59> bluebanana: well for me, I tried about 6 distros.... and finally I loved two of them most.... Debian (oh!) and Ubuntu
[09:36] <vladuz976> jlund: oh really? does it let me input music as well? and what about exporting it as a movie so I can play it on one of the TV's as well?
[09:36] <levander> bluebanana: What is your interest in Ubuntu if your not "technically astute"?  Are you trying to become technically astute?  Is there another motivation?
[09:36] <bluebanana> holycow, maybe i'll play with other distros in the future, but for now, there's enough to learn in just one distro, ubuntu.
[09:36] <Sonicadvance1> Moving away from DRM?
[09:36] <holycow> bluebanana, thats pretty much what everyone meant
[09:36] <Sonicadvance1> :D
[09:36] <bruenig> bluebanana, right which is why I said to get your feet, figure out what you are doing, feel comfortable in the shell and then if you can explore other distros, but whatever ultimately up to you if your biggest issue was price and you don't really care about getting the best maximum experience you just want something that is solid and good and free, then don't
[09:37] <levander> bluebanana: Good thinking, don't worry about other distros unless you have a reason too.
[09:37] <bruenig> my motivations to leave windows was not completely financially based so that is why I tended to move along to other distros as well
[09:37] <bruenig> s/was/were/
[09:37] <bluebanana> levander, i switched to ubuntu/linux because i was abroad and the computer i bought didn't have English Windows. That was one reason that motivated me to put the ubuntu disc into the drive
[09:37] <texta> My PS2 keyboard just freezes on the login window and i cant press anything the mouse works and i can click etc.
[09:37] <holycow> my leaving windows was PURELY based when i found out about freedom
[09:37] <holycow> cost really wasn't an issue at all
[09:37] <bluebanana> plus, why pay for Windows when you can get Ubuntu for free (as in free house and lot)
[09:37] <kazim59> bluebanana: its good you are learning it... someday you'll be here supporting ppl with their problems.. best  o'luck!
[09:38] <kazim59> bluebanana: don't say that to windows users.
[09:38] <levander> bluebanana: Interesting.  People are now using Linux for reasons other than stuff like the web server, the development tools, techie stuff.  You were just in another country and needed an OS...
[09:38] <bluebanana> levander, but i'm back home and am still using Ubuntu. yahoo
[09:39] <levander> bluebanana: Do you have any interest in adminning or developing for computers?
[09:39] <texta> anyone help?
[09:39] <bluebanana> levander, no.
[09:39] <kazim59> bluebanana: good response.... the bug #1 is getting fixed.
[09:39] <levander> bluebanana: I'm just wierded out by it because you're the first non-technical person I've talked to who wants to use Linux.
[09:39] <bluebanana> adminning here on IRC, levander ? Sure
[09:39] <Sonicadvance1> texta, have you tried restarting?
[09:39] <levander> bluebanana: You didn't think that Windows was easier to use?
[09:39] <jlund> bluebanana: That is really cool. I like that you are a regular user.
[09:39] <texta> yes
[09:39] <bruenig> bug #1 won't be fixed for at least 10-15 years and even then I think it might get replaced by another bug #1 which will be mac or another proprietary OS
[09:39] <kinection> is it possible to open the gui file browser from the console at the current working directory?
[09:39] <Sonicadvance1> NO idea
[09:39] <bluebanana> levander, I'll give you my autograph later. 8-)
[09:39] <texta> Sonicadvance1, thnx anyway
[09:40] <Sonicadvance1> I replaced a friends computer's OS with Ubuntu
[09:40] <kazim59> bruenig: do you know the reason?
[09:40] <Sonicadvance1> so 5 people are now using Ubuntu instead of Windows
[09:40] <levander> bluebanana: It's not that kinda wierded out.  It's more like some orange colored guy just walked in the room, and I'm wondering why he's orange...
[09:40] <bluebanana> levander, it was... i had a HARD time with Ubuntu, I must admit. Spent hours getting my PDA to sync...
[09:40] <bluebanana> levander, i c
[09:40] <bruenig> kazim59, it is entrenched
[09:40] <matt__> levander: I've given non tech people linux
[09:40] <kazim59> kinection: yes... type nautlilus . (if using gnome)
[09:40] <texta> IS there something i could do in the BIOS to prevent the keyboard from locking up
[09:40] <levander> bluebanana: Hours getting PDA to sync is not usual behavior for non-technical person.  YOu may be more of a computer geek than you realize.
[09:40] <kinection> kazim59: and nautilus will open up with the current workig directory? no need to pass args?
[09:40] <bluebanana> Linux (at least Ubuntu) is as point-and-click easy as Windows
[09:41] <kazim59> bruenig: I think different... Linux ain't idiot friendly... and there are a lots of idiots out there...
[09:41] <bluebanana> if it were all command line, i probably won't be using linux/ubuntu.
[09:41] <bluebanana> levander, i had no choice.
[09:41] <holycow> you will eventually change your mind
[09:41] <kazim59> kinection: there's an argument.. look carefully.. its . (dot)
[09:41] <holycow> command line is easier
[09:41] <holycow> and faster
[09:41] <levander> bluebanana: did you have a hard time with it, or is it as point-and-click as easy as Windows, which one?
[09:41] <kinection> kazim59: oh, i thought you were ending your sentence
[09:41] <bruenig> kazim59, windows isn't idiot friendly either though, I suppose it just takes longer to realize when your idiotic ways lead to your being overrun by viri
[09:41] <bluebanana> levander, plus, i had an ipod and the computer came with Win98. iTunes doesn't work on Win98. so i put Ubuuntu on
[09:41] <Sonicadvance1> lol
[09:41] <bruenig> whereas on linux, you figure it our quickly
[09:42] <bruenig> out*
[09:42] <bluebanana> levander, anybody who can point and click in Windows (my mom, e.g.) can point and click in Ubuntu. that's what i mean
[09:42] <holycow> bluebanana, i too think its cool you are a regular user deciding to give ubuntu a try
[09:42] <holycow> thats kinda neat
[09:42] <dominicus> anyone way to find out what packages have been recently installed?
[09:42] <levander> bluebanana: You've really got a wierd story.  YOu should write an article about your end user experiences with Linux...  The whole didn't have a choice thing, that isn't usual in the Linux world.
[09:42] <kazim59> bruenig: but people have got a mindset that an OS must be tooo easy to use... something that's not worth learngin
[09:42] <holycow> normall we get regular windows users shy away from choice ... a strange phenomenon
[09:42] <bluebanana> levander, my problem is not with point-and-click.
[09:42] <Pucpuc> i need help with ubuntu after the installation if anyone can help me
[09:42] <kazim59> s/learngin/learning
[09:42] <levander> Pucpuc: just ask
[09:43] <levander> bluebanana: the problem is the command line?
[09:43] <bluebanana> levander, do you want to interview me? I'm free tomorrow at 5pm for an interview. 8-)
[09:43] <bruenig> kazim59, perhaps, people learn how to use windows though, it just depends on what you are brought up
[09:43] <Pucpuc> ok well, after i install ubuntu, it goes through teh standard thing as remove the cd after installing so it boots into the grub menu to pick between windows or ubuntu
[09:43] <Pucpuc> problem is there is no grub menu
[09:43] <Pucpuc> what i have done is reinstalled grub
[09:43] <dominicus> anyone way to find out what packages have been recently installed?
[09:43] <chee> hey, guys!
[09:43] <Pucpuc> and yet nothing shows up
[09:43] <levander> bluebanana: yech, maybe, msg me your email, i may put something up on my blog, let me think about it if I have any good questions when i go walking, see if i have anything good to ask
[09:43] <kazim59> bruenig: I am an engineering student... computer science... and I have converted more than 10-20 of my classmates to ubuntu.. lol (from windows)
[09:44] <ubuntu__> I'm having some really weird CPU usage problems on my machine.  Twice since upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04, things have started freezing up.  When I checked 'top', init's CPU usage was over 90% and I had X applications running that I thought had crashed - even though I Ctrl-Alt-Backspace'd X.  Rebooting did no good as it just ignored shutdown and Ctrl-Alt-Delete, I had to hit the power switch.  Any ideas?
[09:44] <holycow> kazim59, wow!
[09:44] <levander> kazim59: They are also comp sci students?
[09:44] <holycow> coolness
[09:44] <bruenig> kazim59, it takes quite a while to take completely new user to understanding how to install something on windows, I would actually argue that installing stuff on linux for a person who has never been a computer user would be easier to explain than on windows
[09:44] <Helifornets> So... many... people.
[09:44] <bruenig> at least for binary distros
[09:44] <holycow> bruenig, i can qualify that as true
[09:44] <kazim59> bruenig: and that was simple... they were very sad about viruses... i suggested linux
[09:44] <_nnx_> Sorry about the 'ubuntu__' crud... I'm running off of  a LiveCD right now.
[09:44] <neophyte667> Hello all.  Anybody want to help this idiot understand why he has to press these characters twice on his keyboard?:  ~``
[09:45] <bluebanana> Helifornets, not a lot of ppl. just a few of us who are talkative, er, type-ative.
[09:45] <_nnx_> But, yes, odd lockups and init behavior since I upgraded from Edgy to Feisty.
[09:45] <kazim59> levander: yes
[09:45] <Pucpuc> rsad
[09:45] <insomniac190> can anyone recommend a feisty compatible usb optical mouse?  i want t get one for my laptop.
[09:45] <Helifornets> Well, I was planning on coming in here and yelling. But.. uhm.. too many people and what not.
[09:45] <dominicus> anyone way to find out what packages have been recently installed?
[09:45] <insomniac190> With side buttons if possible
[09:45] <holycow> insomniac190, anything by logitech under $20
[09:45] <bruenig> I shalll be taking comp sci soon in uni hopefully, but only as a minor I wonder how many *nix users there will be
[09:45] <_nnx_> bruenig: Depends on the school, a LOT.
[09:45] <bluebanana> People in my life think that I'm now a techie person, just because I use linux.
[09:45] <bluebanana> 8-(
[09:46] <holycow> well, you are
[09:46] <holycow> relative to them
[09:46] <holycow> your actually more technical than you think as someone said above
[09:46] <_nnx_> bruenig: I've been to two schools.  One had almost ALL Linux users (it was very technical), the other had a moderate number, most of the upper division folks at least knew it.
[09:46] <kazim59> levander: then our teacher for the course 'Operating Systems' asked us to write  multi-threaded programs... and gcc was the best option to go... again they had to use linux... lol
[09:46] <holycow> your questions are indepth and your perseverence are key qualities of a techie
[09:46] <train> is anyone using GAIM or Pidgin to go on a silc network?
[09:46] <_nnx_> kazim59: That's very true.  Most OS courses end up using Unix of some kind, usually Linux.
[09:47] <bruenig> _nnx_, a lot of the top tier schools mandate it
[09:47] <moustafa> I have a problem , Can no body help me ? How can I open a chat voice for yahoo or hotmail by using ubuntu?
[09:47] <bruenig> from what I have read at least
[09:47] <kazim59> Linux is heavenly for students... you get the entire source code to learn !!
[09:47] <bruenig> moustafa, gaim
[09:47] <moustafa> yes
[09:47] <passbe> does port 5900 have to be open within the linux firewall (remote desktop) if you are port forwarding that same port through ssh to connect to ?
[09:47] <moustafa> Is that supply voice?
[09:47] <kazim59> bruenig: gaim got voice chat?
[09:47] <Axiam> gogog
[09:48] <bruenig> kazim59, don't know
[09:48] <bruenig> probably not
[09:48] <Agrajag_> passbe: no
[09:48] <Axiam> hola
[09:48] <Axiam> alguien de habla hispana ?
[09:48] <moustafa> mmm
[09:48] <passbe> Agrajag_, thx dude
[09:48] <bruenig> !es
[09:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:48] <Agrajag_> !es
[09:48] <kazim59> bruenig: no it doesn't... i m using it (pidgin)
[09:48] <bruenig> why did you ask
[09:48] <moustafa> I need any program for yahoo or hotmail supply voice chat
[09:48] <bruenig> testing me
[09:48] <Axiam> ok
[09:49] <kazim59> bruenig: nope.. .i thought the feature may be somewhere deep inside it... i really need something that allows voice chat
[09:49] <kazim59> bruenig: so far ... i found only skype!
[09:49] <Axiam> #ubuntu-es
[09:49] <train> anyone know how I can connect to a silc network/
[09:49] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[09:49] <Axiam> como cambio de sala
[09:49] <bruenig> kazim59, haven't much need for it
[09:49] <bruenig> Axiam, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:49] <raddy> Can anyone compile me kernel module?
[09:50] <raddy> please
[09:50] <makaira> I've installed and un-installed, and then re-installed libiw-dev and still xsupplicant is telling me that I don't have the iwlib.h file. Anybody know what's going on?
[09:50] <bruenig> makaira, sudo updatedb && locate iwlib.h
[09:50] <raddy> cos i can't compile it myself because lack of internet access
[09:50] <bruenig> raddy, that doesn't make sense
[09:51] <bruenig> raddy, you are on the internet now
[09:51] <RememberPOL> moustafa: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[09:51] <kazim59> the connection might be slow
[09:51] <moustafa> Thanks alot
[09:51] <moustafa> Thank you man
[09:51] <bruenig> that yahoo messenger is awful
[09:51] <raddy> bruenig: hey, it is from vista, i want ethernet driver
[09:51] <makaira> bruenig, it doesn't seem to be doing anything. just a blinking cursor on the line after the command.
[09:51] <Beriant> core2duo,i re installed with the older graph card,but the monitor is still saying out of range right after the loading screen for ubuntu is almost done
[09:51] <kazim59> bruenig: awful? why?
[09:51] <bruenig> makaira, right so it isn't installed
[09:52] <makaira> bruenig, nevermind
[09:52] <bruenig> !find iwlib.h
[09:52] <ubotu> File iwlib.h found in libiw-dev
[09:52] <makaira> bruenig, found it. /usr/include/iwlib.h
[09:52] <bruenig> makaira, ok, so it might be an issue with xsupplicant then
[09:52] <raddy> if someone build me that kernel module, i can then manage ubuntu,
[09:53] <Beriant> does anyone know why my monitor is saying out of range  when i get to the ubuntu loading screen?
[09:53] <makaira> bruenig, is there any way to point xsupplicant in the right direction?
[09:53] <bruenig> makaira, not sure, I assume you are compiling, see if there is anything in the README or INSTALL or ./configure --help
[09:53] <bruenig> makaira, I can't imagine it would be looking anywhere other than /usr/include
[09:54] <Beriant> does anyone know why my monitor is saying out of range  when i get to the ubuntu loading screen?
[09:55] <moustafa> ~$ dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[09:55] <moustafa> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[09:55] <bruenig> moustafa, sudo dpkg
[09:55] <moustafa> Thank you man
[09:55] <makaira> bruenig, any idea on how i would get rid of an old installation of xsupplicant if i had already successfully compiled and installed it?
[09:55] <bruenig> makaira, you would need to recompile it and then instead of make install do make uninstall
[09:55] <bruenig> makaira, or track down all the files and delete them
[09:56] <makaira> bruenig, thanks. i think i'll go with the first option :)
[09:56] <bruenig> makaira, when I used to compile stuff, I would put the directory I compiled it in in /opt since that tends to be unused and then when I needed to uninstall just cd into it and make uninstall sort of a little impromptu package management setup
[09:57] <holycow> thats a pretty good idea
[09:57] <makaira> bruenig, thanks.
[09:57] <holycow> bruenig, like you however, i now use the term 'when i used to compile'
[09:57] <holycow> hehe ;)
[09:58] <holycow> nothing quite like having 18 000 apps precompiled and tested for ya
[09:58] <raddy> can anybody compile me a kernel module?
[09:58] <bruenig> holycow, well I still compile but on arch, they make it where packaging is so easy that if you are going to compile something, it might take you 2 more minutes to package it
[09:58] <Twinxorr> raddy, that's kinda machine-specific
[09:58] <bruenig> so I just make the package, then install it via package management and upload it to the user repository for others who might want it
[09:58] <holycow> how different is it than debian? packaging debs is simple too
[09:59] <Twinxorr> what module are you looking for, raddy
[10:00] <Twinxorr> the most useful ones are included already
[10:00] <Pucpuc> can someone tell me why there is no grub loader, at start up?
[10:00] <Pucpuc> after installing it too
[10:00] <moustafa> I need help please
[10:00] <Bob_le_Pointu> Check /boot/grub/menu.lst Pucpuc.
[10:00] <Twinxorr> !help
[10:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:00] <moustafa> I using ubuntu 7.4
[10:00] <moustafa> which yahoo version i must install?
[10:00] <bruenig> holycow, this is one I customized for xchat because the binary they had didn't have spell check enabled, you literally drop this into an empty directory and type "makepkg" and it downloads compiles does all of that good stuff, sets up dependency files and whatnot and then creates a pkg.tar.gz which is the .deb of arch http://pastebin.ca/599559
[10:01] <Twinxorr> yahoo is a website, moustafa
[10:01] <Twinxorr> you don't need to install it
[10:01] <holycow> bruenig, we should do that for debian
[10:01] <holycow> it wouldn't be too hard to add those features, not that far away either
[10:02] <bruenig> holycow, I have setup something similar to this for zenwalk already, ubuntu is really ridiculous when it comes to packaging and such I tried to get on as a packager but there was too much red tape
[10:02] <moustafa> rh7.ymessenger-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm? or ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb?
[10:02] <makaira> !find wireless.h
[10:02] <ubotu> File wireless.h found in libiw-dev, libklibc-dev, liboobs-1-dev, libuclibc-dev, linux-headers-2.6.20-15 (and 10 others)
[10:02] <owh> How do I force grep to provide output if a pattern is not found? (I'm *not* talking about grep -v, which outputs all the lines that do not match.) Another way to look at is is: How do I find a pattern that does not exist in a group of files?
[10:03] <bruenig> owh, if you are doing it in a script, I would just do if [ ! "$(grep string file) ] 
[10:03] <bruenig> owh, if you are doing it in a script, I would just do if [ ! "$(grep string file)" ] 
[10:04] <bruenig> missed the "
[10:04] <owh> bruenig, hmm, that's a novel approach.
[10:04] <owh> bruenig, I can work with that, thanks!
[10:04] <bruenig> I script far more than is healthy
[10:04] <owh> :)
[10:05] <Twinxorr> moustafa, Ubuntu uses debs, not RPMs
[10:05] <Pucpuc> oh one more question, i have 3 hdds, 1 sata and 2 IDE, ubuntu only detects my sata, and 1 of my IDE hdd, why doesnt it scan the 2nd IDE Drive/
[10:05] <moustafa> ok
[10:06] <moustafa> but there is an error
[10:06] <xenyxtis> anyone knows how to restore my system with my previous settings??
[10:06] <Twinxorr> but a .deb is no guarantee that it'll work with your version of Ubuntu
[10:06] <moustafa> Unpacking replacement ymessenger ...
[10:06] <moustafa> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[10:06] <moustafa>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[10:06] <moustafa>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[10:06] <moustafa>  ymessenger depends on libssl0.9.6; however:
[10:06] <moustafa>   Package libssl0.9.6 is not installed.
[10:06] <Twinxorr> I'd just try to get Gaim working with yahoo
[10:06] <bruenig> xenyxtis, do you have your settings saved somewhere
[10:06] <moustafa>  ymessenger depends on xlibs (>> 3.3.6); however:
[10:06] <moustafa>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[10:06] <moustafa> dpkg: error processing ymessenger (--install):
[10:06] <moustafa>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:06] <moustafa> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:06] <xenyxtis> no i dont think so
[10:06] <bruenig> !paste
[10:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:06] <moustafa>  ymessenger
[10:06] <moustafa> sorry
[10:06] <bruenig> xenyxtis, well no
[10:06] <xenyxtis> i have problems with Cedega and WOW
[10:06] <bruenig> moustafa, sudo apt-get install -f
[10:06] <makaira> bruenig, this is quite rediculous. i went and found the older version of xsupplicant so i could remove it, and now when i try to configure it it's telling me that /linux/wireless.h isn't there, even though it is.
[10:06] <xenyxtis> and this happened today
[10:07] <bruenig> makaira, don't know
[10:07] <makaira> bruenig, and at one point in time, it obviously located it correctly because i have it installed right now.
[10:07] <xenyxtis> i just uninstall from the synaptic some games
[10:07] <xenyxtis> and then wow couldnt be executed
[10:08] <Ayabara> anyone got a tip for a good gui-based diff program that I can use with subversion?
[10:08] <moustafa> sorry  , butmoustafa@moustafa-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.debReading package lists... Done
[10:08] <moustafa> Building dependency tree
[10:08] <moustafa> Reading state information... Done
[10:08] <moustafa> E: Couldn't find package ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[10:08] <bruenig> gui diff
[10:08] <bruenig> hmmm
[10:09] <bruenig> moustafa, did you delete ymessenger or something
[10:09] <cafuego> No, moustafa didn't run 'dpkg -i'
[10:09] <bruenig> he must have, he pasted about 20 lines with dpkg errors
[10:09] <moustafa> ok
[10:09] <moustafa> no i never do it before
[10:09] <cafuego> moustafa: sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[10:10] <moustafa> Thank you very much
[10:10] <cafuego> moustafa: then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[10:10] <cafuego> NOTHING BEHIND THE LAST LINE!
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[10:10] <bruenig> I think he already did that
[10:10] <cafuego> bruenig: He didn't run the -f install properly, but added the .deb filename as param.
[10:10] <bruenig> oh
[10:11] <bruenig> that was on the next line on my screen
[10:11] <moustafa> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:11] <bruenig> oh no
[10:11] <moustafa> bad luck
[10:11] <cafuego> moustafa: stop pasting errors please
[10:11] <bruenig> moustafa, just run the sudo apt-get install -f
[10:11] <bruenig> by itself
[10:11] <cafuego> moustafa: just run 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[10:11] <moustafa> ok
[10:11] <cafuego> moustafa: just that, not other parameters.
[10:11] <moustafa> I will
[10:12] <moustafa> it's ok
[10:12] <moustafa> it's done
[10:12] <moustafa> Thanks alot
[10:12] <bruenig> have fun with the abomination that is linux yahoo messenger
[10:12] <dawn_> is ymessenger better to use than gaim or kopete?
[10:13] <bruenig> no it is terrible
[10:13] <dawn_> so gaim's better?
[10:13] <bruenig> yes
[10:13] <bruenig> ymessenger is like  yahoo messenger from 5 years ago
[10:13] <dawn_> i have a problem with kopete.. when i use it, almost all my buddies are not in the list. almost everyone's gone.
[10:14] <dawn_> did anybody experience this? ^
[10:15] <MIYP> can anyone please help me with installing wireless drivers with ndiswrapper
[10:15] <bruenig> !wifi
[10:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <MIYP> i've followed those guides
[10:16] <MIYP> i've had it working before but since i've reinstalled ubuntu again its not working
[10:16] <cursor> hey
[10:19] <moustafa> there is no yahoo icon to open it
[10:19] <protospork> is there anybody here who could tell me why I can't get ndiswrapper to work?
[10:19] <bruenig> moustafa, dpkg -L ymessenger | grep /usr/bin
[10:19] <bruenig> moustafa, paste the output
[10:20] <moustafa> nothing
[10:20] <bruenig> moustafa, I doubt ymessenger has talk anyways because it is so old
[10:20] <MIYP> protospork its not working for me either
[10:20] <moustafa> mmm
[10:21] <protospork> i've installed it correctly, so far as I can tell, it just wont recognize my wifi adapter
[10:21] <cursor> what adapter are you using?
[10:21] <Stokesy> anyone know where i can change what the default applications for certain life types?
[10:22] <protospork> D-Link DWL-G132
[10:22] <bruenig> Stokesy, right click on the life, go to properties and change the open with
[10:22] <Stokesy> does that change it for all files of that type, or just that file
[10:22] <bruenig> Stokesy, all of the type
[10:22] <Stokesy> great, thanks :)
[10:22] <moustafa> what is the order to install any winrar file?
[10:23] <moustafa> sudo -i?
[10:23] <Slart> moustafa: install? or unpack?
[10:23] <moustafa> yes
[10:23] <moustafa> unpack
[10:23] <bruenig> !info unrar
[10:23] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[10:23] <moustafa> Thank you Man
[10:23] <Slart> moustafa: file-roller handles rar files.. and I think there is a unrar application installed by default
[10:24] <cursor> im having trouble with my sound card , onboard sound is fine just need midi
[10:24] <bruenig> unrar is not installed by default
[10:24] <bruenig> unless there is some free version that is
[10:24] <bruenig> !info unrar-free
[10:24] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:24] <bruenig> yeah that is not installed either
[10:24] <moustafa> because this file on mt ubuntu 7.4 desktop
[10:24] <moustafa>  ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[10:24] <moustafa> i was hopping to install it
[10:24] <moustafa> but
[10:24] <moustafa> stop wishes
[10:25] <Slart> optional.. well, I forget what got installed by default or two minutes later by user =)
[10:25] <Slart> moustafa: you tried to unrar that? I would try with "dpkg -i ymessenger_blablabla.deb"
[10:26] <Slart> or rather "sudo dpkg -i ymessengerblabla.deb"
[10:26] <bruenig> we already went through this
[10:26] <moustafa> nothing done
[10:26] <cursor> how can i find out what make my sound card is , Hardware information ?
[10:27] <bruenig> cursor, lshwd | grep Audio
[10:27] <moustafa> forget about that , i have a big problem , I have another pc , I installed ubuntu 7.4 but it's cannot read the lan card
[10:28] <bruenig> 7.04
[10:28] <moustafa> How can i do to install the lan card driver?
[10:28] <leagris> Anyone here have some experience in using DVD-RAM within Ubuntu?
[10:28] <moustafa> it's realtek
[10:28] <bruenig> !wifi | moustafa
[10:28] <ubotu> moustafa: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:29] <Asche_83m> Hello! I've got a heterogenous linux-home-network and i want to share files between the machines. what would be the tool of choice? samba? nfs? something else?
[10:29] <bruenig> Asche_83m, samba windows to linux, nfs linux to linux
[10:30] <Slart> Asche_83m: I use sshfs between my two linux-machines
[10:30] <Slart> Asche_83m: can't say if it's better than those other options.. but it works
[10:30] <bruenig> sshfs is only necessary if it isn't local right
[10:30] <Slart> I don't know if it's necessary.. but it was pretty easy to setup
[10:30] <bruenig> i've only one computer so I have never done much in that area
[10:31] <linux_probe> would be rather pointless to use encrypted connection over your own lan
[10:31] <Slart> esp. since I already had ssh setup for remote management
[10:31] <Asche_83m> so i am going for nfs then, right?
[10:31] <linux_probe> if you have windows machines on the network use samba
[10:31] <holycow> well it really doesn't matter
[10:31] <Asche_83m> i haven't
[10:31] <bruenig> can you use samba for linux to linux?
[10:31] <Slart> sure you can
[10:31] <bruenig> if no windows, then nfs yes
[10:31] <holycow> you can mount pretty much any fs as a network fs
[10:31] <linux_probe> yes samba will work to anything
[10:31] <holycow> you could use ftp even
[10:32] <Asche_83m> thank you!
[10:32] <linux_probe> NFS is likely the fastest for an linux only setting
[10:32] <holycow> true
[10:33] <ubuntu__> hola
[10:33] <holycow> hellow
[10:33] <Antroxxxx> como estan????
[10:34] <Slart> bara bra hr.. lite regnigt ute.. sjlv?
[10:34] <Slart> or perhaps we should do this in english? =)
[10:34] <Myrtti> yes.
[10:35] <Antroxxxx> in spanish?
[10:35] <Slart> !esp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Myrtti> !english
[10:35] <Antroxxxx> alguien por aky ke hable espaol???
[10:35] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:35] <Slart> !sp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Myrtti> !es | Antroxxxx
[10:35] <Antroxxxx> xD
[10:35] <Antroxxxx> ok
[10:35] <Slart> bah.. es =)
[10:35] <yeniklasor> After upgrade edgy to feisty, ubuntu didn't promp me to for a update. Update manager says "your system is up-to-date" What is the wrong guys?
[10:36] <hylje> yeniklasor: your system is up to date
[10:36] <Slart> yeniklasor: if you just updated to feisty perhaps there aren't any more updates to install?
[10:36] <yeniklasor> No I upgraded it when it first released (april I think)
[10:36] <troopperi_> newer version is beta testing right now
[10:36] <troopperi_> is not stable
[10:37] <Slart> yeniklasor: hmm.. come to think of it.. haven't seen many updates to feisty either.. perhaps this is perfection..no more bugs? ;)
[10:39] <cursor> Hi , i have a sound card installed and ubuntu recorgnises it however ubuntu still uses my onboard sound instead and sound card isnt used , how can i change this?
[10:39] <troopperi_> cursor: change it to alsa?
[10:41] <linux_probe> good step would be disable integrated sound in the BIOS
[10:42] <DaveTarmac> morning folks
[10:45] <froojnd> hello there
[10:46] <froojnd> I have a little problem with screen
[10:46] <froojnd> when I start irssi with it, like that: screen irssi
[10:46] <froojnd> and when I wanna go back to do other work nothig happens if I press control + a
[10:47] <froojnd> how can I switch screens with screen ?
[10:47] <`xedos> #join #i.need.et
[10:47] <DarthShrine> froojnd, ctrl-a, a
[10:47] <CarinArr> hey, i'm having problems with nvidia drivers on my laptop. It has a geforce go 7600 card in it, and when i try to use nvidia-glx-new the xserver crashes saying screens were found but with no usable configuration.. any ideas?
[10:47] <DarthShrine> Err, Ctrl-a, ctrl-a
[10:47] <jonbauer> CarinArr, I just installed the 7600
[10:48] <CarinArr> froojnd: er.. if you want to switch with ctrl+a the applications need to be in the same screen
[10:48] <jonbauer> i'm a total noob, but this is what helped me: http://albertomilone.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Envy-InstructionsForUbuntu
[10:48] <jonbauer> http://discoverx.wordpress.com/2007/03/12/a-fast-way-to-install-ati-and-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu/
[10:49] <CarinArr> froojnd: i.e. start a screen with "screen", in the terminal window that comes up start whatever you want in there.. i.e. "irssi", if you want another window do ctrl+a c, etc
[10:49] <Jordan_U> jonbauer, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager is better than envy
[10:49] <CarinArr> Jordan_U: i use kubuntu
[10:49] <jonbauer> Jordan_U, ok
[10:49] <jonbauer> Jordan_U, (this is my first day with Ubuntu :) ), thanks for the tip
[10:49] <CarinArr> but surely the restricted driver manager doesn't do the same thing as envy
[10:50] <jonbauer> my main menus have dissappeared
[10:50] <protospork> could somebody please help me? I'd really rather not pull another all-nighter trying to make this work
[10:50] <CarinArr> i was going to use envy, i have in the past, but i just wanted to figure out why nvidia-glx-new doesn't work
[10:50] <jonbauer> is there a way i can unhide Applications, Places and System ?
[10:50] <mahrellon> Hey everyone. I have a quick question. Are there any programs, preferably in .deb format and easy to install, that will let me make a bootable recovery CD out of my Ubuntu installation? Everything's working fine now so I really wanna keep a backup of it. =)
[10:51] <CarinArr> protospork: what's not working
[10:51] <froojnd> CarinArr: if I start screen it only writes:  [10:52]  []  [1] 
[10:51] <protospork> i've installed ndiswrapper and the drivers for my wifi adapter, but the device still isn't recognized and now ndisgtk doesn't even stay open
[10:51] <froojnd> and: [(status)] 
[10:51] <Jordan_U> CarinArr, No, it installs more up to date drivers but since they are from nvidia.com and not a package they will break whenever there is a kernel upgrade, and if you needed envy in the first place you won't know what to do when that happens
[10:52] <linux_probe> if you type screen --help   or  man screen it will give you lots to read and learn
[10:52] <CarinArr> Jordan_U: and does this owrk on kubuntu too?
[10:53] <Jordan_U> CarinArr, Yes, I am not sure where in the menu's it is though, for KDE stuff ask in #kubuntu
[10:54] <masus> anyone now where the command ltspcfg on ubuntu 7.04 is
[10:54] <masus> :)
[10:54] <CarinArr> Jordan_U: right, follow up question then, restricted manager doesn't list anything to do with nvidia, supposedly because i have to disable it to actually get X running
[10:54] <CarinArr> so how is restricted-manager goign to help me install nvidia drivers;)
[10:55] <CarinArr> froojnd: if you're in a terminal and start a screen just using "screen" it should print out a little information screen, and if you press enter it should take you to a terminal window
[10:56] <froojnd> CarinArr: TNX!!!
[10:57] <jonbauer> grr, i don't know where my main menus went
[10:57] <Jordan_U> CarinArr, I have no idea why it isn't showing you an option of installing nvidia drivers, do you have multiple GPUs? It may also be that it knows that the current Ubuntu version of the driver does not support your card and therefore won't try to install it, so it *may* work if you grab the drivers from nvidia.com.
[10:58] <CarinArr> Jordan_U: it's a bog standard 7600 go nvidia card
[10:58] <CarinArr> and i'm not using multiple gpu's
[10:58] <Jordan_U> CarinArr, Do you get any output when you run: sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:59] <valehru> Can anyone recommend a nice tool for ERD diagrams?
[10:59] <CarinArr> in the past i've had it working perfectly with the nvidia.com drivers, since i installed feisty the last time, if i install the nvidia drivers manually they don't work on reboot, unless i reinstall them
[11:00] <CarinArr> hmm modprobe says .../nvidia.ko no such file or directory
[11:00] <CarinArr> that's odd
[11:04] <ethemc> i don't understand why the documantation from linux is not clean enough , every where is writing a different thing
[11:04] <[ifr0g] > Hi..
[11:04] <Jordan_U> ethemc, What documentation are you looking at?
[11:04] <Jordan_U> !hi | [ifr0g] 
[11:04] <ubotu> [ifr0g] : Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:04] <ethemc> LTSP
[11:05] <ethemc> ubuntu
[11:05] <ethemc> with ltsp
[11:05] <Jordan_U> ethemc, What documentation? Man pages, the wiki, etc
[11:05] <[ifr0g] > I installed ubuntu dvd and it didt ask me for setting up and account at the text installation, now i am stuck at the login screen. WHy ??
[11:05] <[ifr0g] > Jordan_U, Hi, there :)
[11:06] <ethemc> its not important , what wiki or another . but the end point is that when i reda and do all the things what in the documantation is writing ,
[11:06] <Jordan_U> [ifr0g] , Did you do an OEM install accidentally ?
[11:06] <cursor> i have as sound card installed however its not used by ubuntu and onboard sound is
[11:06] <ethemc> that is working what , do
[11:06] <ethemc> i do
[11:06] <yeniklasor> on ubuntu is there built-in system restore program?
[11:06] <ethemc> i have test , xubuntu 6.x xubuntu 7.x , ubuntu 6.x ubuntu 7.x serevr
[11:07] <[ifr0g] > Jordan_U, huh, i choosed text install at the start.
[11:07] <ethemc> but nothing is working , and every where is writing another config
[11:07] <ethemc> i wan't a clean documantation thats all :(
[11:07] <predaeus> yeniklasor, do you mean a backup tool, or do you mean something that automatically backs all system files up in case you delete them?
[11:07] <ethemc> so that i can read and do step by step
[11:07] <Bassetts> are intel best for drivers, over nvidia then ati?
[11:08] <ethemc> because i'm  a newbie
[11:09] <Jordan_U> ethemc, The reason I am asking is to be sure that you don't think that blogs are documentation, as I really don't trust any advice from someone who is not willing to contribute to the official wiki
[11:09] <ethemc> i have do all what is writing here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ltsp&titlesearch=Titles
[11:09] <Jordan_U> ( or other official documentation )
[11:09] <ethemc> but nothing
[11:10] <[ifr0g] > Jordan_U, then what is the user pass for the oem ? let me try
[11:10] <ethemc> can anybody give me the right way to install a clean and safe ubuntu with ltsp
[11:10] <doron> hi, how can I change my TTY to display more than 25 lines ?
[11:10] <Jordan_U> [ifr0g] , I don't know, but you can set it to whatever you want by starting in "recovery mode" from grub and running: passwd <username>
[11:11] <doron> like 80 on 120 maybe
[11:11] <[ifr0g] > Jordan_U, thanks will do that..
[11:11] <moosa> is there a way to recover archive passwords on linux?
[11:11] <linux_user400354> how can i get the original background from ubuntu 5.04
[11:12] <koudelka> how to change gateway on a networkinterface using ifconfig? if that is possible
[11:12] <Jordan_U> doron, run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[11:13] <ethemc> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x netmask 255.x.x.x
[11:13] <ethemc> broadcast 192.168.0.x
[11:13] <ikon> i need help with my sound
[11:13] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> Help, the update to restricted drivers (for madwifi) broke my conection :P
[11:14] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:14] <moosa> is there a way to recover lost archive passwords on ubuntu?
[11:14] <raddy> How do i increase the display resolution of fglrx driver enable 3d support
[11:15] <Jordan_U> raddy, What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:16] <doron> Jordan_U, that doesnt change the TTY lines count :(
[11:16] <Np> hi all
[11:17] <Jordan_U> raddy, What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:17] <DaveTarmac> how do I get apps to start automatically when I logon?
[11:18] <ikon> help
[11:18] <Jordan_U> doron, Changing the font size should
[11:18] <koudelka> ethemc how about the gateway?
[11:18] <bionoid> DaveTarmac: system - preferences - session
[11:18] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> has there been anyone else in here with the same issue as me?
[11:18] <koudelka> ethemc ah sorry, i missed
[11:18] <DaveTarmac> bionoid: cheers
[11:18] <Jordan_U> DaveTarmac, System -> Preferences -> session
[11:18] <Np> 
[11:19] <doron> Jordan_U, oh, my bad :)
[11:19] <ikon> what?
[11:19] <koudelka> wrong place i think Np
[11:19] <Jordan_U> Np, What language is that?
[11:19] <Np> Chinese.
[11:21] <doron> Jordan_U, Hebrew+English
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[11:21] <Jordan_U> !ops
[11:21] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
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[11:21] <bionoid> jesus
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[11:22] <Hobbsee> holy cow...
[11:22] <Hobbsee> !staff
[11:22] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[11:22] <koudelka> someone is attacking lol
[11:22] <Np>  
[11:23] <ikon> need help
[11:23] <welly> is this back to normal now?
[11:23] <welly> can anyone recommend an irc server to install on ubuntu?
[11:23] <hylje> nice trojan network
[11:23] <welly> yeah
[11:23] <ikon> why you booted NP ?
[11:23] <koudelka> nP, you should look for your loco team if you want to use chinese
[11:24] <JimQode> welly, sudo apt-cache search ircd
[11:24] <Jordan_U> !cn | Np
[11:24] <ubotu> Np: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:24] <Hobbsee> was assuming he was trolling in another language
[11:24] <welly> JimQode: thanks!
[11:25] <Jordan_U> Hobbsee, He was here before the mass trolling started so I am not sure of that
[11:25] <weasel> A
[11:25] <weasel> [A
[11:25] <weasel> p/wc
[11:25] <weasel> argl
[11:25] <ikon> hey
[11:25] <ikon> i need some help
[11:25] <Hobbsee> weasel: ?
[11:25] <Hobbsee> weasel: oh, staffer.  apologies
[11:26] <hylje> :o
[11:26] <ikon> ssssssssss
[11:26] <weasel> if I wanted to flood it would look different.  this was just a silly ssh/xterm/screen combination eating the esc out of esc sequences
[11:26] <rdvon> I just installed compiz fusion...
[11:26] <koudelka> i want to change my internet gateway ip, how to do that? can i use ifconfig?
[11:26] <rdvon> I'm confused on how to get it to run :'*(
[11:26] <ikon> i need help
[11:26] <CyberMad> what is the best fax client on ubuntu for hylafax ? i want do fax as simple as printing
[11:27] <dimebar> rdvon: type 'compiz --replace' in your console ?
[11:27] <Jordan_U> ikon, Just ask your question, if anyone can help they will
[11:27] <rdvon> dimebar: ill try it.
[11:27] <troopperi_> !ask
[11:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:27] <ikon> i have no sound
[11:27] <rdvon> can't be ran using vesa or vga drivers.... ?
[11:27] <Jordan_U> ikon, Did sound ever work or is this a new problem?
[11:27] <hola_world22> i'm running a jsp container on the internet with no firewall, is that vulnerable to attack?
[11:27] <predaeus> koudelka, I think you need "route" for that, run route and also look at "man route"
[11:27] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> How do i get madwifi to be able to see my access point again. after the latest security update, it stopped being able to connect to my own AP, but can see others.
[11:27] <ikon> sound never work
[11:28] <rdvon> dimebar: it says that it cant be ran using vesa or vga drivers...
[11:28] <dimebar> rdvon: ah - what graphics card do you have?
[11:28] <rdvon> a radeon x1300...
[11:28] <rdvon> beryl worked on it.
[11:28] <rdvon> heh.
[11:29] <rdvon> dimbar: am i out of luck?
[11:29] <ikon> my sound never work, even in the live cd
[11:29] <Jordan_U> rdvon, Are you getting 3D acceleration?
[11:29] <rdvon> Jordan_U: yes
[11:29] <dimebar> rdvon: you need the ATi drivers however I'm not 100% sure how well AIGLX works with ATi cards
[11:30] <ikon> Jordan_U, what can i do?
[11:30] <Jordan_U> ikon, What is the output of "asoundconf list" ?
[11:30] <rdvon> dimebar: i have the drivers on in the restricted drivers manager, I used this tutorial to install compiz fusion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2895086
[11:30] <ikon> Name of available sound cards: Intel
[11:30] <ikon> just that mr. Jordan_U
[11:30] <predaeus> rdvon, is there a compiz-manager you can run? that should run it fine
[11:31] <rdvon> predaeus, ill check...
[11:31] <Jordan_U> rdvon, You can't use the drivers from restricted manager without XGL
[11:31] <rdvon> Jordan_U, what?
[11:31] <Genomsaren> hi I have a problem, my synaptic package ... thing tries to install netbeans everytime when I try to downlaod something. How can I solve this problem?
[11:32] <rdvon> I'm trying to get xgl running..
[11:32] <gordonjcp> can anyone think why my keyboard would be producing a grave accent instead of apostrophe?
[11:32] <gordonjcp> keyboard layout is UK English with dead keys
[11:32] <Jordan_U> ikon, try running: "alsamixer" use the arrow keys to change volume and switch channels
[11:32] <rdvon> Oh, I got it...
[11:32] <rdvon> It wasnt in use for some reason....
[11:33] <Jordan_U> rdvon, That is good, it it isn't in use and you have 3D acceleration without it *don't* use it
[11:33] <ikon> i dont understand about "switch channels" mr. Jordan_U
[11:34] <Jordan_U> ikon, There are multiple sound outputs that you can change the volume of, use the right and left arrow keys to control different levels
[11:35] <ikon> ok, i do that
[11:35] <ikon> but... no sound yet
[11:35] <Jordan_U> ikon, Are all of the channels turned up?
[11:35] <ikon> yes sir
[11:36] <rdvon> I have turned on the restricted drivers... only to get this error message.
[11:36] <rdvon> Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support
[11:36] <rdvon> Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system.
[11:36] <bionoid> Question: I changed keyboard on my laptop because I had a few broken keys. Now the layout on the replacement kbd is slightly different, and using no-latin1 I don't seem to have the <> keys assigned. How can I assign them to some Meta-key combination?
[11:36] <Jordan_U> ikon, Do all of them have a green 00 at the bottom?
[11:37] <ikon> no sir
[11:37] <ikon> center, LFE, SIDE and Line had MM
[11:37] <ikon> and surround too
[11:38] <n2diy_> bionoid: take a look around system > prefs. > keyboard
[11:38] <Jordan_U> ikon, That means that they are muted, press "m" to unmute them, then sound should work
[11:39] <rdvon> and when i tried using this tutorial to create a separate session to run xgl... my desktop ended up looking like this: http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/?action=view&current=Screenshot.png
[11:39] <ikon> now what?
[11:39] <ikon> no sound yet
[11:39] <bionoid> n2diy_: At what specifically?
[11:39] <Jordan_U> rdvon, Do you get 3D acceleration with the restricted drivers disabled?
[11:39] <ikon> all 00
[11:40] <rdvon> Jordan_U, yes I do.
[11:40] <Jordan_U> ikon, I don't know then :(
[11:40] <ikon> :(
[11:40] <Jordan_U> rdvon, Then remove XGL, you don't need it.
[11:40] <n2diy_> bionoid: take a look around your menu bar, and click on : system > prefs. > keyboard
[11:40] <rdvon> Jordan_U, but how do I get compiz fusion to work?
[11:40] <yves_mg> hi
[11:40] <b0ha> are there any php editors  for ubuntu?
[11:40] <ikon> what happend? :(
[11:41] <Jordan_U> rdvon, I don't know, but it will be much easier / more stable without XGL
[11:41] <gordonjcp> b0ha: bluefish, kdevelop
[11:41] <yves_mg> i want to disable ubuntu packages in a kickstart file, somebody who knows how to disable packages such as openoffice?
[11:41] <rdvon> Jordan_U, its uninstalled, now what?
[11:41] <mwe> gphpedit
[11:41] <b0ha> ok tnx
[11:41] <moonlite> b0ha: vim, emacs and gedit works fine too
[11:41] <Jordan_U> rdvon, Try running compiz again
[11:42] <ikon> what can i do?
[11:42] <rdvon> Jordan_U, by running compiz --replace?
[11:42] <rdvon> gives me an error still, just running compiz also.
[11:42] <bionoid> n2diy_: Yeah I understood that, but how would I go about doing a custom assignment from there?
[11:42] <Jordan_U> ikon, Just to test, what happens when you run: "cat /dev/urandom | aplay" ?
[11:43] <Jordan_U> rdvon, Try asking in #compcomm or #ubuntu-effects
[11:43] <rdvon> ok.
[11:43] <ikon>  Unsigned 8 bit, Ratio 8000 Hz, Mono
[11:43] <yves_mg> howto disable packages while running an automatic installation?
[11:44] <ikon> Aborted by interruption signal
[11:44] <Jordan_U> ikon, Ok, as a test ( turn down your speakers, this may be very loud ) what happens when you run: "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" ?
[11:45] <CyberMad> what is package that support send fax like print something?
[11:45] <ikon> nothing
[11:46] <rdvon> hehe, where is xorg.conf located again?
[11:47] <Jordan_U> ikon, I don't think that I can help you, sorry :(
[11:47] <Jordan_U> rdvon, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:47] <ikon> that is so sad :(
[11:48] <daVinciIT> hi all. In Windows exist Terminal Service to connect to remote server in a dedicated OS session. Exist for Ubuntu ?
[11:48] <Montaro> daVinciIT: yes
[11:48] <Montaro> daVinciIT: remote desktop
[11:49] <daVinciIT> Remote Desktop use VNC
[11:49] <daVinciIT> VNC it's not a separated session,
[11:49] <osio> hello
[11:49] <osio> can someone help me with grub?
[11:49] <osio> can't get it to use my k7 kernel
[11:50] <osio> used update-grub but it was not found
[11:50] <yves_mg> is there somebody who has experience with automatic installations using kickstart files?
[11:50] <Jordan_U> !generic | osio
[11:50] <ubotu> osio: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[11:50] <ceil420> !vnc
[11:50] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:52] <CyberMad> i instll hylafax-doc, how do i know where the document is saved?
[11:53] <weltall> !FreeNx
[11:53] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:53] <bionoid> CyberMad: /usr/share/doc usually
[11:55] <CyberMad> thanks
[11:57] <artur_> hi everyone!
[11:57] <Djordje> hi
[12:00] <_Codeman_> What does "bad superblock on /dev/loop0" mean? And how can I fix it?
[12:00] <protocol1> !beryl
[12:00] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:03] <protocol1> whats the proper way to install beryl on kubuntu 7.04?
[12:03] <_Codeman_> have you tried going to #ubuntu-effects?
[12:04] <protocol1> no response
[12:04] <_Codeman_> could be time of day/night
[12:04] <protocol1> Im sure there docs I can use somewhere
[12:04] <Hobbsee> !beryl | protocol1
[12:04] <Djordje> _Codeman_: where do you get that error?
[12:05] <ubotu> protocol1: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:05] <_Codeman_> Djordje: I'm trying to load an iso w/ -o loop but it's acting weird
[12:05] <protocol1> Im using an ATI card so would it be wise to use aiglx?
[12:05] <Jordan_U> protocol1, I would just install gnome-compiz-manager and any plugins you want since it is installed by default
[12:06] <Jordan_U> protocol1, If your card does not need fglrx for 3D then yes
[12:06] <Jordan_U> protocol1, See if System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects works
[12:06] <protocol1> I am using the opensource driver
[12:06] <predaeus> _Codeman_, probably the iso is corrupted or did it work before?
[12:07] <_Codeman_> no
[12:07] <protocol1> and I am also using kubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <predaeus> _Codeman_, try to open the iso with some archiver that usually works
[12:07] <predaeus> to see if it is corrupt or something
[12:07] <drgnmstr> hello
[12:07] <predaeus> just double click it
[12:07] <protocol1> I will try out the aiglx option
[12:08] <protocol1> for beryl
[12:08] <_Codeman_> Ark wont open them, could you make a suggestion?
[12:08] <Jordan_U> protocol1, AIGLX should be on by default
[12:08] <drgnmstr> hello?
[12:08] <Jordan_U> !hi | drgnmstr
[12:09] <ubotu> drgnmstr: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:09] <Lyndis> do ubuntu sux ?
[12:09] <protocol1> ok
[12:09] <protocol1> will try installing beryl
[12:09] <drgnmstr> hi, im a nubie and have a question
[12:09] <bruenig> !justask
[12:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:09] <Nezalra> lyndis t'es a ?
[12:09] <Lyndis> yep
[12:09] <bruenig> !fr
[12:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:09] <Nezalra> c'est de la merrde ubuntu-fr
[12:09] <bruenig> !english
[12:09] <Lyndis> i don't know
[12:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:09] <Nezalra> comme ubuntu en lui mme d'ailleur ...
[12:09] <Endlessguitar> hello
[12:09] <predaeus> _Codeman_, the gnome archiver usually can, I do not remember it's name
[12:10] <drgnmstr> ok, i just installed ubuntu on a comp and the fan is running real fast like it usually does just at startup
[12:10] <Lyndis> That's why i ask
[12:10] <Endlessguitar> can some1 please try to help me?
[12:10] <Lyndis> do ubuntu sux ?
[12:10] <bruenig> !enter | drgnmstr
[12:10] <ubotu> drgnmstr: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:10] <Nezalra> UBUNTU SUX !!!!
[12:10] <bruenig> !anyone | Endlessguitar
[12:10] <ubotu> Endlessguitar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:10] <Endlessguitar> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct
[12:10] <bruenig> !ot | Nezalra
[12:10] <ubotu> Nezalra: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:10] <Nezalra> sans blague
[12:10] <Endlessguitar> how does I do that?
[12:10] <predaeus> !fr | Nezalra
[12:10] <ubotu> Nezalra: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:10] <bruenig> Endlessguitar, I advocate manually running sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:11] <Endlessguitar> ok
[12:11] <Nezalra> j'y suis deja bane de couillon
[12:11] <DaveTarmac> Does anyone here have any experience of using Azureus? If so, how come mine keeps quitting after I load it
[12:11] <Jordan_U> Endlessguitar, In a terminal run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:11] <bruenig> !ops | Nezalra refuses to speak english or go to french room with the exception of all caps ubuntu sux message
[12:11] <ubotu> Nezalra refuses to speak english or go to french room with the exception of all caps ubuntu sux message: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:11] <Lyndis> DO UBUNTU SUX OR NOOOOOT ?
[12:11] <Jordan_U> DaveTarmac, What version of Java are you using?
[12:11] <Lyndis> Nezalra IS in french room
[12:11] <Lyndis> too ^^
[12:11] <Endlessguitar> worked ^
[12:11] <Nezalra> ok ok i speak fucking english
[12:11] <Endlessguitar> thanx
[12:12] <bruenig> well tell him to shut up in here
[12:12] <Hobbsee> !language
[12:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:12] <Lyndis> no i can't
[12:12] <Hobbsee> !caps | Lyndis
[12:12] <ubotu> Lyndis: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:12] <Lyndis> gn ?
[12:12] <bruenig> Lyndis and Nezalra appear to be trolling together just a heads up
[12:12] <Nezalra> no
[12:12] <xipi> when i share a directory via nfs, the client doesn't get write access and limited read access
[12:12] <xipi> what can i do?
[12:13] <bruenig> xipi, how are you mounting it
[12:13] <Hobbsee> Nezalra: behave, or you'll go too.
[12:13] <xipi> bruenig, 192.168.178.21:/media/hdb3 /media/nfs nfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
[12:13] <bruenig> hmmm
[12:14] <yves_mg> is there somebody who has experience with automatic installations using kickstart files?
[12:14] <predaeus> _Codeman_, I just double click opened an .iso with File ROller, works fine.
[12:14] <xipi> bruenig, hdb3 is a home partition
[12:14] <DaveTarmac> Jordan_U: I'm using 5.0 Runtime
[12:14] <drgnmstr> ok, how do i post comment without enter key?
[12:15] <xipi> bruenig, i am trying to copy a home-partition to another hd
[12:15] <bruenig> xipi, maybe try mounting with defaults and not rw especially if it is ext3 since you can set permissions on that
[12:15] <Nezalra> FU      LINUX
[12:15] <xipi> bruenig, thanks. i'll try
[12:15] <Jordan_U> DaveTarmac, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose gij
[12:17] <DaveTarmac> jordan_U: brilliant - that worked. what exactly was gij?
[12:17] <phil> hi what is the best tool to use to extract uif files in linux?
[12:18] <phil> I dont want to burn it
[12:18] <Jordan_U> DaveTarmac, It is the ( fully )open source version of Java that comes with Ubuntu, as opposed to Sun's version
[12:18] <raf256> after default installation
[12:18] <DaveTarmac> Jordan_U: excellent. well it worked a treat. Ta very much
[12:18] <raf256> all inet repos in sources.list are commeneted out, only cdrom works - wrtf
[12:18] <raf256> * wtf
[12:18] <Jordan_U> DaveTarmac, np
[12:19] <xipi> bruenig, didn't help
[12:19] <drgnmstr> just installed ubuntu
[12:19] <Ilokaasu> raf256: comment cdrom and uncomment all others :P
[12:19] <predaeus> phil, read http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/573431.html I do not know if this is the only solution though.
[12:19] <drgnmstr> shouldnt the fan slow down after restart
[12:19] <predaeus> phil, the iso could then be mounted easily.
[12:20] <raf256> Ilokaasu: this is not user friendly
[12:20] <yves_mg> somebody who has experience with kickstartfiles?
[12:20] <raf256> Ilokaasu: newies are like "wtf, why I cant install new programs?!"
[12:20] <Ilokaasu> well wasnt my idea to add cdrom line there so..
[12:20] <aidan> what alternatives to sun-java-jre are there?
[12:20] <raf256> I think that sucks
[12:20] <raf256> how to have it changed
[12:21] <phil> predaeus: thanks
[12:21] <yves_mg> nobody?
[12:21] <Jordan_U> aidan, gij, jikes, and a few others that I can't remember off hand
[12:22] <CyberMad> does anyone here ever use hylafax-client?
[12:22] <dras> what are some fun games for linux
[12:22] <yves_mg> i'm looking for the command to disable a package while installation
[12:22] <drgnmstr> i have a hardware question can somebody help?
[12:22] <Jordan_U> aidan, Actually, jikes is a compiler
[12:22] <james_> start x
[12:22] <james_> start: Unknown job: x
[12:22] <james_> root@james:~# startx
[12:22] <james_> xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.13866
[12:22] <james_> xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
[12:22] <james_> xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
[12:22] <james_> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[12:22] <james_> Fatal server error:
[12:22] <james_> Server is already active for display 0
[12:22] <james_>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[12:22] <james_>         and start again.
[12:22] <predaeus> !paste
[12:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <Jordan_U> !paste | james
[12:22] <ubotu> james: please see above
[12:22] <james_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:22] <james_> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[12:22] <james_> giving up.
[12:22] <james_> xinit:  unable to connect to X server
[12:23] <james_> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
[12:23] <b0ha> :>
[12:23] <james_> please help
[12:23] <raf256> please help- *KICK*
[12:23] <Endlessguitar> does some1 the program for linux you have one desktop bar you can put some icons on?
[12:23] <Piro> hello
[12:24] <raf256> hi Piro
[12:24] <Hobbsee> raf256: that's not normal
[12:24] <Piro> what is the command for evolution mail to open a file?
[12:24] <predaeus> Endlessguitar, I think those are called docks. look for that.
[12:24] <Piro> a eml file
[12:24] <Endlessguitar> ok
[12:24] <Endlessguitar> no :S
[12:24] <Endlessguitar> hmm
[12:24] <Hobbsee> raf256: sounds like your system is botched or something - or was a dist-upgrade, not a clean install.
[12:24] <Endlessguitar> did not worked with
[12:24] <Endlessguitar> sudo apt-get install docks
[12:25] <predaeus> Endlessguitar, nah, I meant the general term for those things is "docks", I do not know the name of one though, sorry.
[12:25] <Endlessguitar> okej
[12:25] <Endlessguitar> aha thx anyway
[12:25] <Endlessguitar> dam
[12:25] <Endlessguitar> hmm
[12:25] <predaeus> Endlessguitar, try "apt-cache search docks"
[12:25] <predaeus> Endlessguitar, and please don't use <enter> as punctuation.
[12:26] <Endlessguitar> ok
[12:27] <drgnmstr> hobsee, can i ax a ?
[12:27] <makuseru> !ISO
[12:27] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:27] <james_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28204/plain/
[12:27] <jenda> !ask | drgnmstr
[12:27] <ubotu> drgnmstr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:28] <drgnmstr> wen windows starts the fan slows down after boot
[12:28] <drgnmstr> why doesnt it after i installed ubuntu
[12:28] <james_> ubotu please help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28204/plain/
[12:28] <sn-> drgnmstr you will need to install the frequency daemon to control pan speed
[12:29] <drgnmstr> im new , wheres that
[12:29] <makuseru> do you mount the .bin or .cue?
[12:29] <Piro> what is the command for evolution mail to open a file?
[12:29] <sn-> drgnmstr check http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CPUFreq
[12:29] <Hobbsee> makuseru: .cue
[12:29] <Busata> james_, ubotu is a bot, he will not respond :)
[12:29] <makuseru> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:29] <drgnmstr> thanks
[12:29] <jenda> drgnmstr: also, try to prefix your messages with the names of those you are addressing on IRC :)
[12:30] <sn-> heya Hobbsee
[12:30] <bionoid> makuseru: Get binchunker (apt-get install bchunk) and use it to convert BIN/CUE to ISO
[12:30] <raf256> Hobbsee: clean install of old 6.06 cd
[12:30] <Hobbsee> hi sn-
[12:30] <Hobbsee> raf256: weird.  not normal/.
[12:30] <makuseru> bionoid: thanks, that makes it easier
[12:30] <Piro> what is the command for evolution mail to open a file? -> i figured it out no way
[12:31] <sn-> james i have to ask, why are you running startx as root ? :)
[12:31] <Hobbsee> raf256: as in, it'll normally add {country code}.archive.ubuntu.com....
[12:32] <CyberMad> on KDE there is KPrinter, so what is on Gnome (ubuntu) ?
[12:32] <thanasisk30> hi!!
[12:32] <thanasisk30> kanenas ellhnas?
[12:33] <bionoid> Is there a 100% open source linux smartphone available on the market?
[12:33] <dimebar> CyberMad: gnome-cups-manager ?
[12:33] <sn-> bionoid im not sure, maybe something by openmoko ?
[12:33] <predaeus> thanasisk30, this is the English support channel, what language do you speak so we can point you to that channel?
[12:33] <Seeker`> bionoid: openmoko may be, i think trolltech's greenphone may be - but i'm not sure if it is oss
[12:34] <protocol1> I already have 3d acceleration working on the ATI video card.... do I need to install beryl now?
[12:34] <thanasisk30> i speek greek predaeus
[12:34] <Cromag> !gr
[12:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:34] <makuseru> protocol1: install compiz-fusion, beryl is legacy now
[12:34] <thanasisk30> ok thanks!!
[12:34] <protocol1> ok
[12:34] <bionoid> sn- / Seeker` thanks will look into them
[12:34] <protocol1> makuseru, I am using kubuntu
[12:34] <makuseru> protocol1: gimme a sec and ill get you a howto
[12:35] <protocol1> ok...cool
[12:35] <thanasisk30> channel for pclinuxos please?
[12:35] <PriceChild> thanasisk30, #pclinuxos ?
[12:35] <Brun> How install driver to scaner HP 4400c?
[12:36] <thanasisk30> yes pricechild!pclinuxos
[12:36] <thanasisk30> ok thanks!!!
[12:36] <makuseru> protocol1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2902636 and if you run into a problem #compiz-fusion is the support channel here
[12:37] <mcuenca> x,c
[12:38] <Brun> who know install driver to scaner HP 4400c?
[12:38] <mcuenca> ola
[12:38] <mcuenca> ablar kojones
[12:38] <mmnmartinez> ola
[12:38] <protocol1> makuseru, thank you sir!
[12:39] <mmnmartinez> saveisde ke trata este xat
[12:39] <PriceChild> !es | mmnmartinez
[12:39] <ubotu> mmnmartinez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:39] <mmnmartinez> ola
[12:39] <mmnmartinez> kien eres
[12:41] <linux_user400354> where can i find the default wallpapers from breezy? ive searched at packages.ubuntu.com and didnt find it.
[12:42] <sn-> linux_user400354 try searching the contents of the packages , but it should be "ubuntu-artwork"
[12:42] <protocol1> makuseru, I think this would be much better since I am using kubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[12:43] <makuseru> protocol1: ubuntu, kubuntu same thing. just make sure you install compiz-kde instead of compiz-gnome
[12:44] <Hobbsee> compiz-kde is effectively empty...
[12:44] <linux_user400354> how can i download ubuntu-artwork for breezy? all the servers dont seem to have it anymore. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fu%2Fubuntu-artwork%2Fubuntu-artwork_0.2.27-1_all.deb&md5sum=b890bfeb3d78a450fd1bc88419b75168&arch=all&type=main do you know sn-?
[12:44] <protocol1> makuseru, ok I am doing that first
[12:45] <troopperi_> linux_user400354: check this out.... http://art.ubuntu.com
[12:45] <sn-> linux_user400354 a google of the filename should show it, try http://mirror.linux.org.mt/mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-artwork/ubuntu-artwork_0.2.27-1_all.deb
[12:45] <sn-> linux_user400354 breezy is very old, please consider upgrading :)
[12:46] <demian__> Hi I've got a problem with copying large file sizes, I found a patch but don't know how to use it. Can anyone help?
[12:47] <PriceChild> demian__, copying large files.... what file systems? What are you using to copy them?
[12:47] <jan___> anyone ever got gosa working ?
[12:48] <demian__> PriceChild: Filesystem is ext3 I;m using feisty and I', trying to copy with CP
[12:48] <tama> i have a umm RAID 0 and wanna know how i can mount it
[12:48] <tama> its a software raid
[12:48] <tama> from when i used gentoo linux
[12:48] <gerro> anyone in here know how to get a wusb54gsc linksys wireless adapter working on this random belkin wireless usb adapter?
[12:48] <demian__> Here'e the patch http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/23/146
[12:49] <lliktsum> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490149
[12:49] <gerro> let me rephrase that: how do you figure out how to get a usb wireless adapter working in ubuntu?
[12:50] <PriceChild> gerro, do you know what chipset it is?
[12:50] <tck> gerro does lsusb show it up?
[12:50] <lliktsum> I am having a problem upgrading my dapper up to fiest.
[12:50] <lliktsum> Please read my post about it if yo want more info.
[12:50] <lliktsum> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490149
[12:50] <sn-> lliktsum can you pastebin the /var/log/dist-upgrade/ file
[12:50] <skule> Im running kernel 2.6.20-16-generic, but when I apt-get install vmware-player it insists on installing vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 instead of vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16, how can that be
[12:50] <gerro> PriceChild: the wusb54gsc is a ralink rt73 I think
[12:50] <PriceChild> skule, are you using feisty?
[12:50] <sn-> lliktsum if dist-upgrading you need to go dapper -> edgy then edgy -> feisty
[12:50] <skule> PriceChild, yes
[12:50] <lliktsum> i know that sn-.
[12:50] <PriceChild> gerro, I'm not totally sure that we have the rt73 drivers in yet...
[12:51] <lliktsum> but it wont even let me go to edgy.
[12:51] <Russian> Goodmorning everyone
[12:51] <osio> after installing k7 linux headers i have no entry in /usr/src
[12:51] <demian__> goodmorning Russian
[12:51] <demian__> So can anyone tell me how to use the patch?
[12:51] <PriceChild> skule, have you apt-get update'd before rtying? (I always prefer installing vmware from tar.gz off of vmware.com)
[12:51] <demian__> http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/23/146
[12:52] <gerro> tck: if the belkin device goes by the name "kensington" yes it does however I googled both the names and it seems kensington sued belkin over something so I doubt that
[12:52] <skule> PriceChild, yes I have updated, I would really like apt to manage the package for me
[12:52] <PriceChild> demian__, well that's a kernel patch and would require rebuilding it...
[12:52] <Tama00> hi
[12:52] <bruenig> !hi
[12:52] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:53] <PriceChild> skule, try installing vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 manually... and then doing the other
[12:53] <gerro> PriceChild: when I search synaptic for ralink I am presented with "rt2x00-source" what is that and can I use it?
[12:53] <demian__> so not a good idea for a noob?
[12:53] <gerro> PriceChild: it also installed some sort of module assistant
[12:53] <skule> PriceChild, tried that, no luck
[12:53] <PriceChild> gerro, that's rt2x00's source, not rt73
[12:53] <raf256> !paster
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <raf256> !paste
[12:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:54] <gerro> PriceChild: oh some forum post I read said 2x00 is same another name for rt73
[12:54] <PriceChild> gerro, I just don't think rt73 drivers are in feisty sorry... you could get them from ratech and compile them using module-assistant maybe...
[12:55] <gerro> PriceChild: do you have a link to their website?
[12:55] <lliktsum> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28206/
[12:55] <PriceChild> gerro, google is your friend... http://www.ralinktech.com/
[12:55] <bruenig> why google when you will google for him
[12:56] <gerro> PriceChild: sorry nothing was showing up some reason :/
[12:56] <PriceChild> gerro, first hit on "ralink wireless"
[12:56] <lliktsum> I can't upgrade too edgy. :(
[12:57] <lliktsum> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490149
[12:57] <gerro> lliktsum: why bother edgy sucks and even if you do upgrade have to worry about upgrading to feisty :(
[12:57] <lliktsum> i am trying to do that
[12:57] <gerro> lliktsum: 6.06 not that bad tried it before
[12:57] <bruenig> edgy sucks?
[12:57] <lliktsum> but i have to get to edgy first.
[12:57] <sn-> lliktsum EBUG The package 'nvidia-glx-legacy-dev' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist
[12:57] <lliktsum> i dont have to sound.
[12:57] <sn-> try removing it from the removal blacklist ?
[12:57] <bruenig> edgy was better than feisty at least for xubuntu
[12:57] <linux_user400354> sn-: that package was from warty. i cant find the one for breezy.
[12:58] <sn-> linux_user400354 in all honestly its going to take some time to dist-upgrade from dapper > edgy > feisty, have you considered a fresh installation?
[12:58] <bruenig> linux_user400354, neither of those are supported anymore, finding packages will become harder
[12:58] <sn-> if time is a worry
[12:58] <gerro> bruenig: yeah I like xubuntu too but all those people blabbing about how stable edgy were I bet just modded a lot of customizations that were lost when switching over
[12:58] <sn-> but if you wish to do it, then maybe remove the nvidia-glx-legacy-dev package and try again
[12:58] <gerro> bruenig: lot of improvements with feisty I noticed
[12:58] <bruenig> I didn't notice much at least nothing significant
[12:58] <bruenig> newb tools
[12:59] <bruenig> which is good for adoption I guess but of no real interest to me
[12:59] <lliktsum> sn-, about that " EBUG The package 'nvidia-glx-legacy-dev' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist" what am i suppose to do?
[12:59] <linux_user400354> sn-: im using feisty. i just want the background from breezy.
[12:59] <PriceChild> lliktsum, remove it yourself...
[12:59] <sn-> oh lliktsum sorry that last message, not linux_user400354
[12:59] <lliktsum> but i dont wanna mess up my sound card.
[12:59] <sn-> im getting mixed up :)
[12:59] <gerro> PriceChild: you told me to google for ratech :P
[01:00] <PriceChild> gerro, should have used your initiative ;)
[01:00] <Tama00> yay ubuntu on slow internet....
[01:00] <sn-> lliktsum   in all honestly its going to take some time to dist-upgrade from dapper > edgy > feisty, have you considered a fresh installation? otherwise remove the nvidia-glx-legacy-dev package and run the update-manager again
[01:00] <lliktsum> how can i get a fresh install without any blank cd's.
[01:00] <bruenig> !install | lliktsum
[01:00] <ubotu> lliktsum: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:01] <linux_user400354> sn-: no, i can find it. google caches websites.
[01:01] <raf256> how to fix this?  http://pastebin.com/940480
[01:01] <sn-> linux_user400354 grab that .deb i linked to you earlier, then you can extract it only, not install with sudo dpkg (check man dpkg)
[01:01] <sn-> then use the wallpaper :)
[01:01] <bruenig> raf256, hoary is not supported, get off of it
[01:01] <gerro> lliktsum: either an instlux or usb install, perhaps network bootable floppies, I dunno
[01:01] <raf256> bruenig: ok, how
[01:01] <bruenig> raf256, get a newer version
[01:01] <raf256> bruenig: ok, how
[01:01] <bruenig> raf256, how did you get hoary
[01:01] <raf256> cd
[01:02] <bruenig> cd
[01:02] <raf256> old cd actually
[01:02] <PriceChild> raf256, I'm not sure what youc an do... as breezy has also reached End Of Life.
[01:02] <qodosh> Does anyone know where I might find Realtek High Definition drivers for my sound card. I have the latest kernel. I couldnt find it on the manufacturers website.
[01:02] <raf256> bruenig: I dont want to reinstall from scratch - I need to get it working fastly
[01:02] <bionoid> qodosh: They should be in the kernel
[01:02] <bruenig> yeah that won't be possible seeing as breezy isn't supported anymore so you couldn't dist-upgrade to it
[01:02] <PriceChild> raf256, you should have realised the warnings 12 months ago and upgraded from it before it reached EOL
[01:02] <raf256> PriceChild: we installed yestarday
[01:02] <chee> hi, someone familiar to adesklets?
[01:03] <bruenig> raf256, you need to get the latest cd
[01:03] <surviver> anyone know how i can fix this problem: i got 64 bit ubuntu , but i cant see any movies (eg: video google) with flash macromedia... because they dont support , is there a way i can fix that?
[01:03] <raf256> can I update without wasting hours to install from sratch?
[01:03] <PriceChild> raf256, then get a dapper disk and install that from scratch
[01:03] <raf256> PriceChild: is there a faster way?
[01:03] <PriceChild> raf256, no
[01:03] <bruenig> raf256, no
[01:03] <raf256> shit
[01:03] <PriceChild> !ohmy | raf256
[01:03] <ubotu> raf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:03] <CarinArr> surviver: flash on 64 bit linux is a known problem.. have you trid just looking through the forums?
[01:03] <raf256> !sissy | PriceChild
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sissy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <qodosh> bio, so why isnt the card working? :-\
[01:03] <bruenig> hmmm
[01:03] <surviver> carinarr, not yet first thing i thought i go irc maybe some ppl had it before me :
[01:04] <predaeus> surviver, either get a new gnash release, but that does not work too well yet. Or install the ook video ook plugin for firefox and download the video then play it with vlc.
[01:04] <Hobbsee> raf256: i wouldnt try to be smart with the ops.  they've already dealt with a whole lot of people today...
[01:04] <predaeus> surviver, or try one of the workarounds mentioned in the forums
[01:04] <raf256> well ok
[01:04] <surviver> predaeus, ill take a look thx:)
[01:05] <raf256> today is some speciall day? start if summer brake or soemkthing
[01:05] <PriceChild> raf256, back on topic please.
[01:05] <bruenig> that was the most bizarre tangent I have seen
[01:05] <raf256> is there a net install?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> raf256: seems so.
[01:05] <bionoid> qodosh: Hard to say - did you compile kernel yourself?
[01:05] <PriceChild> !install > raf256
[01:05] <raf256> I need to _fastly_ get a working ubuntu + subversion + kate + firefox
[01:05] <bruenig> raf256, you still need to get a cd though to do the net install
[01:05] <CarinArr> qodosh: is this a laptop you're using?
[01:05] <bionoid> qodosh: You need to use ALSA and include the intel HD audio driver (iirc it works for the realtek hd audio too)
[01:05] <raf256> bruenig: yeah but on slow net it matters
[01:05] <cvk77> I can't start Tomcat 5 on my Ubuntu box - eclipse 3.3 always throws an "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/logging/LogFactory". anyone got an idea how to fix this?
[01:06] <PriceChild> raf256, Warty, Hoary & Breezy are at EOL. Download a new version and install... EOD
[01:06] <gerro> PriceChild: thx for help, going to give these drivers a try later when I'm more awake, and still looking for that ratech place :)
[01:06] <bruenig> EOF
[01:06] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: EOD?
[01:06] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, discussion
[01:06] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[01:06] <qodosh> bio, I didnt install the kernel myelf. and I am using a laptop
[01:06] <raf256> PriceChild: which distro is the stable (but not too old yet like "stable debian")?
[01:06] <PriceChild> raf256, dapper
[01:06] <raf256> and whats its number
[01:06] <PriceChild> raf256, 6.06
[01:06] <bruenig> 7.04 is stable
[01:06] <PriceChild> raf256, it will also be supported for another 4 years
[01:06] <qodosh> ALSAand intel HD audio driver?
[01:07] <bruenig> 6.06 is like stable debian
[01:07] <PriceChild> raf256, momre than edgy or feisty
[01:07] <CarinArr> qodosh: what laptop model?
[01:07] <bruenig> only 4 more years on server I thought
[01:07] <Yodude> hey btw 7.10 is shaping into avery good release, you know, if you put in front a new user they're gonna be pleased with it
[01:07] <qodosh> Toshiba
[01:07] <raf256> 7.04 name is...?
[01:07] <bruenig> feisty
[01:07] <PriceChild> Yodude, gutsy in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:07] <CarinArr> qodosh: ack.. and model number?
[01:07] <Yodude> raf256: feisty fawn
[01:08] <PriceChild> !names > raf256
[01:08] <CarinArr> qodosh: often with laptops it helps to start by googling for known linux issues for the laptop model number.. i'm using a toshiba myself, and the p100 series that i'm using have known issues with bioses and sound not working on linux
[01:09] <qodosh> hrrm, okay, well I will have to try to find out the model number, i dont have the information hard copy, im at work.
[01:10] <CarinArr> qodosh: you can normally get the sound working on the toshiba's by disabling acpi at bootup.. obviously it's a quick and dirty fix and sort of not what you're normally looking for. but if all you're wanting to do is watch a movie or something,it's doable
[01:11] <qodosh> I just generally dont like the idea of something not working. lol
[01:11] <CarinArr> tell me about it
[01:11] <qodosh> I installed ubuntu on my old dell and it everything worked fine.
[01:11] <qodosh> :p
[01:11] <CarinArr> heh, i had a dell which worked brilliantly too
[01:11] <qodosh> I had to install a lot of crap for slackware, it was a pain. lol
[01:12] <qodosh> Fedora never works for the sounds and wireless card that i get
[01:12] <qodosh> ;;p
[01:12] <CarinArr> toshiba like to mess up their bioses with non-standard stuff
[01:12] <qodosh> yeah people tell me that now about toshibas
[01:12] <qodosh> lol
[01:12] <qodosh> I just always heard they're good
[01:12] <CarinArr> had i known it i probably would not have gone down this route
[01:12] <CarinArr> oh the hardware is fine
[01:12] <qodosh> yeah
[01:12] <CarinArr> as long as you use it as they think you will;)
[01:12] <qodosh> heh yeah
[01:12] <qodosh> its running windows vista great
[01:13] <qodosh> :p  but I spend more time in linux usually
[01:13] <CarinArr> is this toshiba of yours orange by any chance?
[01:13] <qodosh> no lol
[01:13] <qodosh> its silver and black
[01:13] <CarinArr> at least that rules out the p100 series which i have
[01:13] <CarinArr> so there might be hope for you yet;)
[01:13] <qodosh> lol
[01:14] <qodosh> btw, its a Toshiba Satelite
[01:14] <qodosh> I dont know the model number
[01:14] <CarinArr> it's probably likely it's the same sort of problem as i have then
[01:15] <CarinArr> but yeah, best way you can go about it is probably findng the model number and googling
[01:15] <qodosh> I think its a A135
[01:15] <Vego> The mailinglist documentation talks about a sounder mailinglist for general ubuntu/linux topics, but the summary og lists on the same pages does not have a link to the sourder mailinglist. Does this list exists?
[01:15] <Vego> -2
[01:16] <CarinArr> qodosh: maybe try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452992&page=2 in that case
[01:16] <yves_mg> how can i configure packages to skip in the kickstartfile?
[01:17] <qodosh> Biohazard: just found out.... its a Toshiba A135-S4527
[01:17] <PriceChild> Vego, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/
[01:17] <Vego> I Price: Thanks. Is it in use?
[01:17] <PriceChild> Vego, I'm not going to answer that.
[01:17] <Biohazard> qodosh, ?
[01:18] <Dimensions> hi guys..is it possible to design an interface for my own application in ubuntu ?
[01:19] <qodosh> Sorry biohazard, I meant to say bionoid
[01:19] <Vego> Price: Ok. Just wondered why its not listed on the mailinglist website. I'll give it a try.
[01:19] <Biohazard> ok
[01:19] <qodosh> He asked me the model earlier
[01:20] <yves_mg> hi
[01:25] <iphv37> hi ppl!!
[01:25] <yves_mg> how to skip packages when using a kickstartfile
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !staff
[01:29] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[01:32] <dff> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel
[01:32] <dff> where are they?
[01:32] <excession> Hi there. Not sure if this is the right place, but I have a question about Ubuntu server. Is that OK?
[01:32] <PriceChild> dff, have you installed linux-headers-whatever_version ?
[01:32] <dff> linuz-headers-generic
[01:33] <CyberMad> does anyone here ever use hylafax ?
[01:33] <jrib> dff: they end up in /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:34] <iphv37> how do i manage the logins sound?? because it seems i've lost this sounds, or it is unavailable!
[01:34] <jrib> iphv37: you can configure it in system -> administration -> login window
[01:35] <iphv37> jrib, ty!
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[01:36] <PriceChild> !traffic
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[01:36] <dff> someone justt tested their botnet
[01:36] <excession> I have Ubuntu server setup (LAMP) and WebDAV for a directory. I am using htdigest for auth and tried both SSL and non-SSL protected, but Windows XP (with SP2) just does not seem to accept the username/password when I create a new network place.
[01:37] <c_> Where can I get the video drivers for my intel i8xx on board video card? I would really like some higher resolutions.
[01:37] <excession> Has anyone encountered this, or have any tips? :)
[01:37] <Juhazi> excession: use port number in the url, even if it's 80
[01:38] <qodosh> Who was it that gave me the forum addy?
[01:38] <Zoffix> Hi, have anybody ever had this issue with CD/DVD-ROM that when you try to copy files you get I/O Error? I had this issue from since Fiesty came out. I was hoping some bug fix will come in the updates, but I still can't copy files larger than a few MB from my DVDs/CDs. Any suggestions on what I can try?
[01:38] <qodosh> Thank you, I read through the forum, at first the instructions for editing the code didnt work, but I read in the forum more, and someone adjusted the code, and it worked for him, I didnt the same, and it worked! Its a little quiet, but it works! :)
[01:38] <qodosh> thank you goes to whoever sent the forum addy lol
[01:39] <JimQode> c_, try this: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[01:39] <excession> Juhazi: Thanks for replying. I've got it in the apache conf file in sites-available, if that is what you mean (webdav.blah.com:80), but when I put it into Windows I get told it is an invalid location.
[01:39] <c_> JimQode: It seemed to install it instantly, no package downloading, no nothing. Do I already have it installed?
[01:39] <xpoint> excession, windows is invalid os
[01:40] <erUSUL> Zoffix: you should file a bug report with this simptons against the feisty kernel in launchpad imho
[01:40] <JimQode> c_, hmm it may just be a configuration fix. try restartin the x server
[01:40] <c_> JimQode: control alt backspace?
[01:40] <xpoint> excession, http://webdav.blah.com:80/
[01:41] <JimQode> c_ yep
[01:42] <Zoffix> erUSUL, I've seen other people's reports for the same issue. I forget where I found that, since maybe there they found a way to fix this.
[01:43] <Zoffix> It was some forum on ubuntu.com IIRC. But I just can't find anything :/
[01:43] <excession> Juhazi: Thank you very much, I shall try that. (can't reply in private, nick not registere yet - will fix that now)
[01:44] <erUSUL> !bugs | Zoffix
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[01:45] <Zoffix> Thanks.
[01:45] <m1r> great news guys :) : http://hgspot.hr/default.aspx
[01:45] <m1r> firm shiping preinstalled ubuntu in croatia
[01:46] <Zoffix> m1r, Dell does that too. http://dell.com/open
[01:46] <m1r> yes i know :)
[01:49] <Tama00> im really having trouble mounting my mdadm raid i created under ubuntu can someone help me
[01:49] <Tama00> do i use mdadm --assemble ?
[01:49] <Tama00> how do i create the device /dev/md0?
[01:49] <Tama00> for my raid to sit on
[01:49] <CyberMad> how to find experimental package? i want to find package "fax4cups"
[01:52] <HiP_P> !help
[01:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:52] <Tama00> this is driving me NUTS
[01:54] <m1r> !raid
[01:54] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:54] <m1r> !raid > Tama00
[01:55] <Tama00> ya
[01:55] <Tama00> yay
[01:56] <amon__> :)
[01:57] <HiP_P> 'Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)' whats that meaning?
[01:57] <PriceChild> HiP_P, sudo apt-get update, then try agani
[01:58] <dumbbots> I installed the video drivers for my intel card and I still can not get my resolution above the default. What else can I do to get this to work?
[01:58] <Bogaurd> I just tried to compile a kernel... but for some reason the directory ended up being around 3gb. any ideas why?
[01:59] <PriceChild> !kernel | Bogaurd
[01:59] <ubotu> Bogaurd: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:59] <HiP_P> PriceChild: same error again
[01:59] <darcone> Hi, I am wondering if anyone knows why /usr/local/lib is not included in ubuntus /etc/ld.so.conf ?
[01:59] <PriceChild> Bogaurd, we don't really support custom kernels
[01:59] <Bogaurd> PriceChild: yeah... I know :-(
[01:59] <Bogaurd> PriceChild: I really dont want to compile it, but I need IFB support, which is not in the ubuntu kernel otherwise..
[02:00] <Cold> re
[02:00] <Cold> lol
[02:00] <vyse74> bouh
[02:00] <Cold> ^^
[02:00] <Tama00> does mdadm --create delete data?
[02:00] <Cold> ok...
[02:00] <Tama00> cause i already have a raid and i dont want to delete the data i just want to access it
[02:00] <Cold> c pas en fracais
[02:01] <Cold> Mdrrr
[02:01] <vyse74> but je don't believe que it's francophone
[02:01] <PriceChild> !fr | Cold vyse74
[02:01] <ubotu> Cold vyse74: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:01] <criXtiano> good morning my friends
[02:01] <vyse74> thx
[02:01] <Cold> vyse74
[02:01] <Cold> je part
[02:01] <dumbbots> Morning.
[02:01] <Cold> c pas des francai
[02:01] <proog> i followed a guide on the ubuntu wiki about installing eyetoy as a webcam, and it works, but only if i plug it directly into the computer, not when i use a usb hub to connect - how can i get it working on my usb hub?
[02:01] <darcone> Sorry for asking again, I am wondering if anyone knows why /usr/local/lib is not included in ubuntus /etc/ld.so.conf?
[02:01] <chee> hey, when I try to install desklets with adesklets_installer, I got this error: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith', what's wrong with it?
[02:01] <Bo^Dick> what happens if i add another harddrive to my ubuntu system?
[02:02] <Remo_A> hey all, doesn't "xvidcap" or "cinelerra" exist for ubuntu in the feisty repos? doesn't seem to me. What do you use for video editing then?
[02:02] <Remo_A> thanks for your consideration
[02:04] <Bo^Dick> is it possible to tell ubuntu that one wants to have the home directory on another physical harddrive after installation?
[02:04] <proog> my eyetoy camera only works when inserted in the pc and not in a usb hub - can someone tell me why?
[02:04] <PriceChild> Bo^Dick, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[02:05] <DarkED> hey all
[02:05] <DarkED> does ubuntu 7.04 come with ntfs-3g by default?
[02:05] <Tama00> can someone tell me if mdadm --create will harm my data, i alreadty have a raid and wish to access it
[02:05] <DarkED> i find it strange that i can write to my windows partitions on a default install ...
[02:05] <jrib> DarkED: no, but it is packaged in the repositories
[02:05] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > DarkED (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:05] <DarkED> jrib, yes, but for some reason it seems to be installed already
[02:05] <Bo^Dick> @PriceChild: thanks
[02:06] <DarkED> jrib, i have full write access to my ntfs partitions
[02:06] <DarkED> the driver is ntfs-3g in fstab
[02:06] <Remo_A> hey all, doesn't "xvidcap" or "cinelerra" exist for ubuntu in the feisty repos? doesn't seem to me. What do you use for video editing then? thanks for your appreciation
[02:07] <jrib> Remo_A: kino or pitivi
[02:07] <PriceChild> Remo_A, "apt-cache search <package>"... i know xvidcap isn't in there...
[02:07] <PriceChild> Remo_A, its not too hard to build yourself
[02:07] <jrib> DarkED: it must have been installed by something
[02:08] <Remo_A> PriceChild: I always get dependency issues, when I build on my own :I but I know, it's not hard, just wanted to be sure
[02:08] <DarkED> jrib, nope... this is a clean install
[02:08] <xpoint> Tama00, i will not put may head on it, but if you only need to configgure it this should not format the logical drive atleast
[02:08] <quinton_> Need help with loading screen and sound please
[02:08] <Bo^Dick> what do i do if i want to install a program that is not present in the synaptic package manager?
[02:08] <jrib> DarkED: ntfs-3g is in universe, it *can't* be installed by default afaik
[02:08] <daverich> hi folks - I need to ghost my drive but without a CD drive,- possible?
[02:08] <daverich> stupid board only has 1 ata slot
[02:08] <Tama00> xpoint, dont worry i tried it and it still doesnt work anyways, says it cannot find device /dev/md0 and i dont know how to create it
[02:08] <Tama00> xpoint, is it mkraid ? but i dont seem to have that command
[02:09] <mk10> jenher
[02:09] <HiP_P> hmmm now getting lots errors on the apt-get
[02:09] <xpoint> Tama00, 2 sec
[02:09] <criXtiano> will Ubuntu win Windows market place?
[02:09] <jrib> !offtopic | criXtiano
[02:09] <ubotu> criXtiano: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:09] <rroslan> hi, is it possible to upgrade from python 2.4.3 to python 2.4.4 on ubuntu 6.06
[02:10] <Zoffix> Hm. Back to my DVD-ROM I/O Error issue. If I do `sudo mount /dev/dvd /mnt/` it mounts fine, and I can see the files, but still get I/O Error when I try to copy the files. If I try simply `sudo mount /dev/dvd` I get "mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"  does this ring a bell to anybody about what I could try?
[02:10] <xpoint> Tama00, try from this page http://hilli.dk/howtos/lvm2-and-software-raid-in-linux/
[02:10] <visof> how can i install Bsdtar??
[02:10] <xpoint> Tama00, the mknod thingy
[02:10] <visof> what is the command to install it?
[02:10] <chee> apt-get
[02:10] <chee> install
[02:10] <Tama00> ok thx
[02:11] <quinton_> Can someone help me with ubuntu loading bar start screen and sound?
[02:11] <Zoffix> !ask > quinton_
[02:11] <daverich> ghost without cddrive possible?
[02:11] <jrib> visof: why do you need bsd tar?
[02:11] <Zoffix> daverich, was that to me?
[02:11] <daverich> anyone zoffix
[02:11] <daverich> :)
[02:11] <Bo^Dick> what do i do if i want to install a program that is not present in the synaptic package manager?
[02:12] <Zoffix> Oh, you were asking, not guessing :)
[02:12] <daverich> I need to copy the install in running right now over to a bigger harddrive
[02:12] <visof> jrib i have some file to unzip it
[02:12] <quinton_> zoffix, How would I change the ubuntu logo (loading bar) at the beggining boot? and how would I change the sounds of the drumbs right after it is booted at the log in sreen where you must type your name and pass
[02:12] <visof> jrib will you help?
[02:12] <rroslan> hi, is it possible to upgrade from python 2.4.3 to python 2.4.4 on ubuntu 6.06
[02:12] <jrib> visof: what kind of file is it?
[02:12] <visof> jrib .tgz
[02:12] <Tama00> YES thanks xpoint :D:D
[02:13] <HiP_P> right he's the error's iam getting off apt-get update ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28211/plain/
[02:13] <jrib> visof: you ca just right click on it and click "extract here".  Or in the terminal, you can do: tar xf file.tgz
[02:13] <HiP_P> *he's=here is
[02:13] <jrib> !tar > visof (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:13] <JimQode> quinton_, for sounds, System > preferences > sounds
[02:13] <visof> jrib i want to install bsd tar can you help?
[02:13] <Remo_A> PriceChild: how nice, they even provide a .deb package for xvidcap
[02:13] <kakado> Bo^Dick: have you looked in packages.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <quinton_> jimqode, I did not see the sound I was looking for on there
[02:14] <jrib> visof: bsdtar is in universe, just enable universe and use your favorite package manager to install it if you really want it.  Ubuntu comes with gnu tar though
[02:14] <jrib> !universe > visof (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:14] <jrib> !software > visof (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:14] <JimQode> quinton_, login sound is in System / Administration / Login window / Accessibility
[02:14] <visof> jrib ok thanks
[02:15] <quinton_> jimqode, not that log in window, I meant the one with the orange bar that loads across the screen
[02:16] <JimQode> quinton_, The drum sound you wanted to change are defined on that window. I don't know about boot splash.
[02:16] <solowlr> how do I start up VNC via the command line so I can log into the desktop remotely?
[02:16] <quinton_> jimqode, jimqode =S
[02:17] <Bo^Dick> how do i know if my distribution is warty or hoary?
[02:18] <Bo^Dick> i've got ubuntu 6.06.1
[02:19] <Bo^Dick> ubuntu desktop that is
[02:19] <jrib> Bo^Dick: that's dapper.  Type 'lsb_release -c' in a terminal to find out
[02:19] <Bo^Dick> thanks
[02:19] <visof> my ubuntu work very slowly when i update  why?
[02:20] <Zoffix> man, this got even more weird. If I play a movie from the DVD (.avi file from Data DVD) The "rewinding" only goes up to a first minute of the movie, but it _does_ play the rest, meaning it CAN read, but there must be something stopping it from doing `cp` of the file :|
[02:20] <Zoffix> This is driving me nuts :|
[02:20] <Zoffix> I really wish it would be something like "Oh just run `foobar`" :)
[02:21] <Zoffix> hm, OK, the movie broke too :/
[02:22] <xenon> hi
[02:22] <kakado> visof: that could be many reasons
[02:22] <troopperi_> !hi | xenon
[02:22] <ubotu> xenon: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:22] <bluebug> question: my wireless lan card does not work... how to make it work?
[02:22] <bluebug> 13:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[02:22] <visof> kakado like?
[02:22] <bionoid> !madwifi | bluebug
[02:22] <ubotu> bluebug: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:22] <Zoffix> Hm, is it possible to somehow change the drivers of CD/DVD-ROM drive?
[02:23] <kakado> visof: full harddrive
[02:23] <Tama00> does your desktop ever hang?
[02:23] <bluebug> >>bionoid, ubotu: Thanks. I'll check it.
[02:25] <cdealer> Anyone knows how to make skype works on ltsp 5 clients ?
[02:25] <marc> hi
[02:25] <visof> kakado you meat all hard drive or filesystem only?
[02:26] <marc> can someone help me set a resolution higher than my monitors drivers allow?
[02:26] <cdealer> [marc] : edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:27] <agomez> madrilista_andres@hotmail.com
[02:27] <marc> i have
[02:27] <agomez> agomez
[02:27] <marc> and i've rebooted twice
[02:27] <cdealer> [marc] : you dont need to reboot... just the X (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[02:27] <cdealer> marc, but is possible that if you video card doesnt support higher resolution that you cant have it
[02:27] <ianian> yooyooyoyo
[02:28] <ianian> i need shockwave for fiesty...any tips??
[02:28] <heroin> how can i use irssi and a proxy?
[02:28] <marc> and again, nothing :(
[02:29] <cdealer> [marc] : are you editing in the right depth section ?
[02:29] <marc> all of them :P
[02:29] <marc> on windows, my monitor did 1920x1440@72Hz on every color depth
[02:29] <ianian> need shockwave for fiest...any1  know how i can get it?
[02:29] <cdealer> [marc] : so the reason must be the hardware limit of your video board or the driver
[02:29] <marc> i had to use powerstrip there
[02:29] <marc> hmm
[02:30] <JimQode> ianian, sorry, no shockwave for linux. You can sign a petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[02:30] <Zoffix> :'( I can't believe I need Windows to copy/write CDs/DVDs
[02:31] <Zoffix> It was working fine on Edgy :/ did they have to break it :\
[02:31] <Endlessguitar> what for musical player is best with winamp skins?
[02:31] <marc> this is what the 24 colordepth section says
[02:31] <marc> 	SubSection "Display"
[02:31] <marc> 		Depth	24
[02:31] <marc> 		Modes		"1920x1440"	"1600x1200"	"1280x1024"	"1024x768"	"800x600"	"720x400"	"720x350"	"640x480"
[02:31] <marc> 	EndSubSection
[02:31] <Myrtti> thank you, next time use pastebin
[02:31] <marc> the first one is addes manually
[02:31] <JimQode> Endlessguitar, both xmms and beep media player work with winamp skins
[02:31] <Myrtti> !paste | marc
[02:31] <ubotu> marc: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:31] <marc> ah k
[02:32] <beruic> Hi, I have a huge problem with a Thinkpad 600E (Type: 2645 - 4A0). My Trackpoint is broken, and is unuseable. However it keeps sending mouse signals which makes it very hard to work sometimes. I have tried to comment out all synaptic stuff in xorg.conf, but it didn't work. What else can I do?
[02:32] <marc> like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28212/
[02:33] <supremesonic> beruic, also with restart of the X with CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE   ?
[02:33] <beruic> supremesonic: I restarted the machine after it...
[02:34] <supremesonic> beruic, okay.
[02:34] <msetim>  I have the Keyspan URM-17A Express Remote Control and I would like to use it, what I need to do to configure it?
[02:35] <beruic> any other suggestions?
[02:36] <felixhummel> hi! is there some way to expand the gnome-save-as dialog by default?
[02:38] <marc> does anyone know what sax2 is?
[02:38] <marc> someone on a forum says it can force a custom resolution
[02:38] <beruic> I'll try again with my problem description: Hi, I have a huge problem with a Thinkpad 600E (Type: 2645 - 4A0). My Trackpoint is broken, and is unuseable. However it keeps sending mouse signals which makes it very hard to work sometimes. I have tried to comment out all synaptic stuff in xorg.conf, but it didn't work. What else can I do? I'm desperate!
[02:40] <darcone> seems to me this is not something you should change in xorg? :S since the mouse is handled by the kernel?
[02:40] <darcone> ie you can use the mouse in the console as well
[02:40] <beruic> Would it help uninstaling the synaptic drivers?
[02:41] <beruic> I have tried commenting out synaptic in xorg.conf
[02:41] <darcone> Im guessing the ubuntu kernel has support for all kinds of mice and you would have to force the kernel to skip that particular driver
[02:41] <darcone> other than that, I dont know... not a linux hacker :)
[02:42] <beruic> how do I force it to skip that driver?
[02:42] <darcone> if you are in luck it is a module and not compiled into the kernel
[02:42] <darcone> then you can unload the module
[02:42] <beruic> And i can uninstall it?
[02:42] <darcone> yes
[02:42] <brooks> what's goin on beruic, i might be able to help
[02:42] <darcone> man modprobe
[02:42] <matt5> hi
[02:43] <matt5> i need some help
[02:43] <matt5> with ubuntu
[02:43] <beruic> brooks: I'll try again with my problem description: Hi, I have a huge problem with a Thinkpad 600E (Type: 2645 - 4A0). My Trackpoint is broken, and is unuseable. However it keeps sending mouse signals which makes it very hard to work sometimes. I have tried to comment out all synaptic stuff in xorg.conf, but it didn't work. What else can I do? I'm desperate!
[02:43] <matt5> can any1 help
[02:43] <Zoffix> brooks, any clue on how to reinstall/choose a different driver for CD/DVD-ROM?
[02:43] <Zoffix> !ask > matt5
[02:44] <jamyskis> !ask
[02:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:44] <xpoint> matt5, see topic
[02:44] <matt5> i am setting up a bit torrent bx using ubuntu but when in the azureus configuration file i need t change a value then save it, but i dont know how to?
[02:44] <brooks> you using 7.4?
[02:44] <matt5> i think so
[02:45] <Zoffix> brooks, I am.
[02:45] <beruic> brooks: I'm on Xubuntu 7.04
[02:45] <brooks> ok hold on a sec, i just read a thread similar to this
[02:45] <bionoid> beruic: Broken as in, physically broken and you want it disabled, or as in broken in ubuntu but works in windows?
[02:46] <beruic> bionoid: Broken... Even in the bios
[02:46] <jamyskis> Is anyone able to offer any advice about this problem here? - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-June/117954.html
[02:46] <beruic> bionoid: I use keyboard in BIOS, caus mouse is unusable.
[02:46] <jamyskis> /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom are both set to read access for all
[02:46] <beruic> bionoid: I want it totally disabled in Linux
[02:47] <matt5> how do you have files changed in terminal?
[02:47] <Stormx2> jamyskis: My line looks like this (for my first CD-ROM drive, I have two) /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[02:48] <beruic> bionoid: any suggestions?
[02:48] <jamyskis> Stormx2 - why no auto?
[02:48] <Stormx2> jamyskis: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom    22,   0 2007-07-01 22:18 hdc
[02:48] <sorsis> how 7.10 going?
[02:48] <jamyskis> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-07-01 14:39 /dev/hdc
[02:48] <Stormx2> jamyskis: This is default setup. I think GNOME auto-mounts.
[02:48] <darcone> damn 2 screens is not enough when you have mirc on ;) need one for mirc as well haha
[02:49] <jamyskis> ill give it a try
[02:49] <jamyskis> Stormx2: thanks
[02:49] <brooks> still there ber?
[02:49] <beruic> yep
[02:50] <matt5> can any 1 help me?
[02:50] <beruic> matt5: ask your question, not permision to do it...
[02:50] <matt5> i have asked my question
[02:50] <jamyskis> matt5: what do you mean by files changed in terminal?
[02:50] <matt5> i need to save a file changed in terminal
[02:51] <brooks> everything ive been reading says people are going back to 6.10 until the flaw is fixed in the next update
[02:51] <matt5> i have opened the terminal and opened a configuration file then changed a line in it but ow i need to save it
[02:51] <skule> why does vmware-player-kernel-modules depend on vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 when im running kernel 2.6.20-16-generic and there exists a vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 package ??
[02:51] <matt5> but dont know how to
[02:51] <jamyskis> matt5: what have you used to edit the file?
[02:51] <jamyskis> matt5: nano?
[02:51] <matt5> terminal
[02:51] <brooks> Apparently the problem is due to the R31 using the same controller (the i8042) for the keyboard, mouse and power management, and occurs every time something polls the battery.
[02:52] <matt5> ???
[02:52] <jrib> matt5: what command did you use?
[02:53] <matt5> sudo nano ~/software/azeureus/azerueus
[02:53] <matt5> i have put my usernam in now i need to save trhe file
[02:53] <brooks> pass i8042.nomux=1 to the kernel - add it to the #defoptions line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, run "sudo update-grub", and reboot
[02:53] <bionoid> beruic: Sorry was busy on phone
[02:53] <jrib> matt5: ok, well you shouldn't be using sudo for stuff in your HOME.  But to save in nano, you press ctrl-o and to exit you press ctrl-x (these are listed at the bottom of the screen)
[02:53] <jamyskis> matt5: press ctrl+x, y, enter
[02:53] <bionoid> beruic: You can disable it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <beruic> bionoid: that's ok :)
[02:54] <beruic> bionoid: I have tried that
[02:54] <brooks> access denied?
[02:54] <bionoid> beruic: And what happens?
[02:54] <matt5> thankyou so much
[02:54] <matt5> ill give it  a go now
[02:54] <beruic> bionoid: Both the synaptic section and the place where the section is actually loaded...
[02:54] <jamyskis> matt5: i'd recommend that you use gedit if you struggle with nano
[02:54] <beruic> bionoid: it still works
[02:54] <bionoid> beruic: Synaptic is likely the touchpad
[02:54] <jamyskis> matt5: although it's good to know nano in case your xserver doesn't work
[02:55] <bionoid> beruic: Look under Section "ServerLayout"
[02:55] <bionoid> beruic: It should be represented with a single line saying InputDevice "Device Identifier"
[02:55] <beruic> bionoid: Exactly, that's what I've done. comented out the stuff
[02:55] <skule> Ubuntu Fiesty: why does vmware-player-kernel-modules depend on vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 when im running kernel 2.6.20-16-generic and there exists a vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 package ??
[02:56] <bionoid> beruic: Then it definitly should not be enabled still. Did you try commenting all the options, or.. ?
[02:56] <beruic> bionoid: everything that was synaptic related
[02:57] <jamyskis> skule: is vmware-player-kernel-modules just a metapackage? if so, it's probably just not been updated
[02:57] <bionoid> beruic: Synaptic, again, is (AFAIK) the touchpad and not the trackpoint. Is there anything with "mouse" in its name?
[02:57] <bionoid> beruic: On a sidenote there is a console mouse driver that's sometimes installed and can bork these things up
[02:57] <bionoid> But I've forgotten its name - anyone?
[02:58] <tom47> i have taken a severe hit and my /etc/group file has been borked and cannot login
[02:58] <bionoid> beruic: Ah - check if you have a package called 'gpm' installed
[02:58] <beruic> bionoid: I don't have a touchpad, but a trackpoint which I've seen detected as a synaptic device. I havn't tried disabling anything else, as I was afraid that would disable my PS2 or USB mouse
[02:58] <beruic> 2 sec...
[02:59] <JimQode> tom47, boot from cd, mount your drive and fix your /etc/group file.
[02:59] <bionoid> beruic: Hint you can use ctrl-alt-F1 to go to a console and edit the file if the mouse stops working, so no biggie :) (alt-f7 to go back to X, then hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart it)
[02:59] <tom47> JimQode: thats where i am atm and its essentially empty
[02:59] <JimQode> !paste > jimqode
[03:00] <monteiro> anyone has a lacie external hard drive working in ubuntu?
[03:00] <beruic> bionoid: I know that. Have used that to recover after an xservercrash before :)
[03:00] <skule> jamyskis, yes it is a meta package. All I can do is wait then ?
[03:00] <bionoid> monteiro: Yes.
[03:00] <tom47> JimQode: and i am uncertain how to fix it
[03:00] <jamyskis> skule: or install vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16
[03:01] <Sjallaban> Hello! I am looking for an Ubuntu compatible wireless network card for my laptop. Any tips?
[03:01] <ipinx> irc.irchighway.net
[03:01] <skule> jamyskis, tried that, but vmware-player depends on vmware-player-kernel-modules which depends on vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15
[03:02] <bionoid> Sjallaban: Depends on what you're going to do - for "end-user" stuff ie connecting to networks, a 3945abg works well for me, but can't do fancy stuff like packet injection if that's what you need
[03:02] <skule> jamyskis, so it keeps installing/using the wrong version
[03:02] <JimQode> tom47, here is my /etc/groups file. replace my username with yours. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28216/
[03:02] <tom47> jimquode ty
[03:02] <jamyskis> skule: I'm not sure if apt-get can use uname -r to get your kernel version...have you tried installing both. I know it's a bit of a waste of space but it'll keep apt-get happy.
[03:03] <tedbuntu> I have a question about partitioning.  I have an 80gb sata drive that is partitioned as such:  17gb = Windows XP Professional;  the rest = Empty.  How can I get ubuntu to format the free space?  When I go to install it only has the whole hard drive as an option
[03:03] <Sjallaban> bionoid: I was just thinking of normal network use, a card that can connect to a WLAN network in Ubuntu out of the box.
[03:03] <beruic> bionoid: I don't have gpm installed...
[03:04] <Zoffix> I get Input/Output error when I try to `cp` from CD/DVD-rom, is there any place where I could find out what the real problem was that caused I/O error?
[03:04] <skule> jamyskis, it dows not seem to work well, I think it tries to load the wrong kernel module
[03:04] <bionoid> Sjallaban: Ok the intel 3945 is a good option for that, but there are some caveats especially with WPA/WPA2 which may be difficult to setup in linux (not device specific)
[03:04] <bionoid> beruic: Hm well then I would brute-force the entries in xorg.conf :P
[03:04] <jamyskis> skule: you mean the player?
[03:05] <bionoid> beruic: (and of course - you've checked that you can't disable it in BIOS?)
[03:05] <jamyskis> skule: don't you have to modprobe the module...? (someone else chip in if they have any ideas)
[03:05] <beruic> bionoid: Yes i have, and how do I do that?
[03:05] <JimQode> tedbuntu, select manual partitioning. create a partition using all your free space, but leave 2*your RAM for your swap at the end of your drive.
[03:05] <skule> jamyskis, yes the player loads the wrong module I guess
[03:05] <JimQode> tedbuntu, set the file system for this partition to ext3, mount point to /, and check format box.
[03:06] <tom47> jimqode ty will reboot and see how i go
[03:06] <bionoid> beruic: Just comment one, restart and see what happens. Doesn't work, comment the next and restart again.. and repeat until you've tried commenting all the InputDevice's within ServerLayout
[03:06] <ipinx> irc://irchighway.net
[03:06] <Sjallaban> bionoid: Ok thanks, but I'm afraid that one doesn't fit in my laptop. I think I need a PC Card
[03:06] <JimQode> tedbuntu, create the swap partition at the end of your drive, select linux-swap as filesystem.
[03:06] <marc> can i mount an ISO image as a CD drive?
[03:06] <bionoid> Sjallaban: Aha, old laptop?
[03:06] <jamyskis> skule: im not sure what the name of the module for vmware player is, but it will automatically load up on reboot i think
[03:06] <marc> apt keeps asking for my CD-rom
[03:07] <bionoid> marc: Not as "a cd drive" specifically - but you can mount it to a folder - mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso some_folder/
[03:07] <beruic> bionoid: should I try to uninstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?
[03:07] <jamyskis> skule: if you can get the name of it you can just do "modprobe modulename"
[03:07] <bionoid> beruic: You can try ;)
[03:07] <monteiro> bionoid : the lacie external hard drive works OK ? you have which hard drive, i'm thinking buying that 2,5'' 160GB version and wanna know if it works in ubuntu
[03:07] <jamyskis> skule: try modprobe vmware
[03:07] <marc> when i try to install wine, apt asks me to put a CD labeled "blabla" into the cd drive
[03:07] <Capashen> Hi, does anybody knows an equivalent to ORB on linux please ?
[03:07] <beruic> I'll try that first then. If it doesn't work, at least I'll have less RAM taken by drivers :)
[03:07] <jamyskis> Capashen: what's ORB?
[03:08] <Capashen> jamyskis > that is ORB -> http://www.orb.com/ .
[03:08] <erUSUL> Capashen: ORBit ??
[03:08] <bionoid> monteiro: Pretty much any external USB drive will work with ubuntu.
[03:08] <adop> Zoffix:You can use the -v option to cp to get a verbose output, if this is what you mean.
[03:09] <Capashen> Does anybody try openorb, Jacord or Orbit ?
[03:09] <Capashen> jacorb sorry
[03:09] <monteiro> bionoid : yes, but i went to the linux foruns, and some lacie hard drive, wasnt accepting his usb address
[03:09] <Capashen> I can't find screenshot on theses software and I don't know if they really work
[03:09] <beruic> bionoid: Is it bad if it wants to uninstall  xserver-xorg-input-all?
[03:09] <bionoid> beruic: Probably :P
[03:09] <jenda> Yo. I have some messed up business with thunderbird. It seems to look up its databases wrong. Anyone have a clue what I could do with that? The symptom is that even though I deleted all the emails in Inbox, there is still a 2GiB Inbox file in the Mail directory, and that when I send a blank test email to myself, it appears to have content grabbed from a 'random' point within that file, which appears to be a database of old emails.
[03:10] <MrKeuner_> hi, I have random lockups. using ati but not using fglrx. can it still be the video hardware. what else should I suspect?
[03:10] <bionoid> monteiro: Never heard of that. My 250gb works fine, anyway. But of course you will have trouble if it's formatted with, say, NTFS
[03:10] <beruic> Thnk I'll just read a little on it then :)
[03:10] <[91RP001] > I use Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop NEC. The alsamixer has identified that the card is Intel ICH6 and the chip is Conexant id 31. The problem is the sound doesn't work aka no sound comes out from my laptop speaker. Any one can help me please!
[03:10] <Zoffix> adop, thanks. Didn't say what the actual problem was. This CD/DVD-ROM I/O errors are driving me nuts :| Can't find any way to change the driver, since that's what I think the problem is :?
[03:10] <monteiro> bionoid : yes, its better formatted with vfat, to be compatible in any system
[03:11] <Tom47> JimQode: ty aam alive again .... will def remember that trick
[03:11] <jamyskis> Capashen: i dont think the three projects you mentioned have anything to do with the Orb you mentioned
[03:11] <bionoid> Zoffix: Have you considered the option that it might actually be broken? Or that the media is broken?
[03:11] <JimQode> Tom47, np ;)
[03:11] <tedbuntu> JImQode, do I go into Manually partition and New Partition Table?
[03:11] <bionoid> Zoffix: If you can mount media but get read errors, it is very unlikely to be the driver
[03:11] <jamyskis> Capashen: have you tried running the program under WINE?
[03:11] <JimQode> tedbuntu, yes
[03:12] <jamyskis> Capashen: i'm downloading it now out of sheer interest because it looks interesting
[03:12] <tedbuntu> It said i have selected an entire devide to partition, and that all my data will be lost.
[03:12] <JimQode> tedbuntu, then you haven't selected manually partition
[03:12] <tedbuntu> Guided, and Manual, right?
[03:13] <Zoffix> bionoid, I cannot copy any files from any of the DVDs/CDs I have. I can do that just fine on the same box under Windows. So I'd assume that means it's not the media and it's not the psysical damage to the drive. It was working just fine on Edgy before I installed Feisty :|
[03:13] <Sjallaban> bionoid: Yes, my laptop is 4 years old
[03:13] <Murdoch> how the heck do I upgrade glib on ubuntu,  I just did the ./configure make and make install but now I'm getting crap from pkg-config
[03:13] <adop> Zoffix: I'm not sure if it is possible to change the driver for the cd-rom, though you can take a look at the dmesg output to see what is going on. It might be a hardware problem...
[03:13] <dff> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16/kernel" is an existing directory, but it does not contain at least one of these directories "linux", "asm", "net" as expected
[03:13] <dff> what ;_;
[03:13] <tedbuntu> The installer says all my current partitions will be removed, does that mean it will just put ubuntu on the empty partition?
[03:14] <illriginal> Hey, anyone awake?
[03:14] <Zoffix> bionoid, and yes, I can mount, browse, and copy little files (I'd say ones that are under ~18Megs). I'm completely out of ideas, been googling for 2 hours already, I see some people posted similar issues but no fixes :|
[03:14] <JimQode> jenda, try irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird. They may be able to help you there.
[03:14] <jenda> JimQode: thanks, but I'm already askin' there.
[03:14] <illriginal> Does anyone know a program that records off a Microphone?
[03:15] <jamyskis> illriginal: audacity
[03:15] <jenda> JimQode: although deleting that file seems to have helped, at least partly :)
[03:15] <jamyskis> illriginal: or sound recorder
[03:15] <bionoid> Zoffix: Strange. Never heard about it. What happens if you boot the ubuntu live cd?
[03:15] <JimQode> !ask | illriginal
[03:15] <ubotu> illriginal: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:15] <illriginal> alright :P
[03:16] <Zoffix> bionoid, well, I've installed from the Live CD, didn't try to read any CDs while booted into LiveCD (not sure if that's even possible)
[03:16] <tedbuntu> JimQode, The installer says all my current partitions will be removed, does that mean it will just put ubuntu on the empty partition?
[03:16] <Capashen> jamyskis, no I didin't try with wine. I'd like to find a real program on linux
[03:16] <jamyskis> illriginal: i heard on the linux action show that jokosher is supposed to rock too
[03:16] <bionoid> Zoffix: No that's not possible, but if it was a problem with the driver, it probably shouldn't boot either.
[03:16] <JimQode> tedbuntu, It should not say that. You may have done something wrong. hit back and retry the things I've said in the right order again.
[03:17] <bionoid> Zoffix: Are you running standard distro kernel or did you compile a newer version yourself?
[03:17] <[91RP001] > [91RP001] : I use Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop NEC. The alsamixer has identified that the card is Intel ICH6 and the chip is Conexant id 31. The problem is the sound doesn't work aka no sound comes out from my laptop speaker. Any one can help me please!
[03:17] <jamyskis> Capashen: that's ok...it doesn't work anyway. you're just looking for something you can watch internet tv on right?
[03:17] <bionoid> Zoffix: (there's a lot of changes for libata in various ways lately - an upgrade might solve the problem)
[03:17] <illriginal> jokosher?
[03:18] <tiagoboldt> Hi, I've upgraded to gutsy and my cpu is now always at 50%, any ideas on how can I normalize this? My laptop is heating like a toaster :|
[03:18] <JimQode> [91RP001] , Do you have a volume control icon on your panel? What happens when you double click it?
[03:18] <jamyskis> illriginal: www.jokosher.org - i've never used it but looking at it i might be tempted to make the switch :)
[03:18] <Zoffix> bionoid, running standard I assume. I've ran that "Update manager" and it said "Your system is up to date".
[03:18] <vega-> gnnh, since when has firefox in feisty began to copy the url of the previous tab to the location bar when opening a new tab. very annoying
[03:18] <illriginal> i see... brb
[03:18] <illriginal> thanks jam
[03:18] <Zoffix> bionoid, dmesg showed me this output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28219/ I see "Hardware problem" there. Though the rest of the output doesn't give me much clue.
[03:18] <[91RP001] > JimQode: wait, I check it:)
[03:18] <jamyskis> tiagoboldt: can you go into a terminal and type "top"
[03:18] <Capashen> jamyskis, I'd like to find a software like ORB which can broadcast videos and music which are on the server
[03:19] <vega-> tiagoboldt: this channel is not for gutsy support, join ubuntu+1
[03:19] <iFries> Hi, I have installed wine a couple of days ago, but now I want to remove it. I did remove it with "sudo apt-get remove --purge wine". But there are still menu items in my applications menu. So I don't think it is really gone.. Anyone that can help me? Thanx!
[03:19] <lexus_nexis> hi
[03:19] <jamyskis> tiagoboldt: ok, point taken about what vega- said there
[03:19] <tiagoboldt> I'll go there, sorry :D
[03:19] <bionoid> Zoffix: When did you last successfully use this optical drive?
[03:19] <jamyskis> iFries: right click on the apps menu and select edit menu
[03:20] <lexus_nexis> I installed xwinwrap
[03:20] <bionoid> Zoffix: That really does look like a hardware problem, be it media or drive.
[03:20] <Zoffix> bionoid, on Linux?
[03:20] <bionoid> Zoffix: On whatever system
[03:20] <jamyskis> iFries: when you have applications selected, right click the WINE folder in the items list and delete it
[03:20] <jamyskis> iFries: or just untick it
[03:21] <iFries> jamyskis: Hey, that was easy.. thanx!
[03:21] <[91RP001] > JimQode: a volume control window with the name of the card (intel ICH6) appears on the screen
[03:21] <jamyskis> iFries: np
[03:21] <bionoid> Zoffix: If this is the case of a faulty driver, you need to go to kernel.org and download the latest kernel source.. but it's not an easy job if you've never done it before :P
[03:21] <lexus_nexis> but the problem is when I run it everything turnes black and I can't move any of the windows or anything all I can do is open yakuake
[03:21] <bionoid> Zoffix: (unless you can find a finished kernel config for your exact brand and model)
[03:21] <Zoffix> bionoid, A month or so. But I had these I/O errors on Feisty and while having them did successfully read/write on Windows.
[03:21] <bionoid> Zoffix: Do you still have Windows on it?
[03:21] <Zoffix> bionoid, Yeah.
[03:21] <bionoid> Zoffix: If so, reboot and try with the _exact_ same media
[03:21] <JimQode> [91RP001] , Go to switched tab and play with the available switches while playing a file.
[03:22] <tedbuntu> JimQode, Do I set the ext3(which is like the C: drive in windows, right?) to the end or the swap?
[03:22] <Zoffix> bionoid, ok.
[03:22] <Ewan_> hello, I am preparing for exams for which I use certaing website with ID + password. after logging in, a popup window opens with encryption and no possibility to select text, copy+paste, or save webpage (the window is without toolbars). I have no internet at home and that's why I'm interested to backup the webpages on my HD to view them at home. How can I do that?
[03:22] <bionoid> Zoffix: I have had a lot of faulty optical drives the last two years (am I alone?) - so whenever one stops working I'm not surprised :\
[03:22] <acbot> is there a dev list or something with some discussion on when the next kernel update for ubuntu feisty will be happening?
[03:23] <JimQode> tedbuntu, set it just after your win partition but leave space for your swap. your swap file should 2*your ram amount.
[03:23] <bionoid> Ewan_: Screenshot
[03:23] <Ewan_> doesn't work
[03:23] <Ewan_> screenshots is also blocked
[03:23] <DooMRunneR> does anyone know the bash command to check if the privious program runs correct?
[03:24] <bionoid> Ewan_: That's very, very unlikely. Not to say impossible
[03:24] <Ewan_> however, if it's about the choise, save as html would be more comfortable
[03:24] <[91RP001] > JimQode: Sorry, I'm a newbie on Linux, what do you mean by switched tab, please elaborate your advice
[03:24] <nuked_omen> what options do i add to the mount command so that users can write to the partition?
[03:24] <tedbuntu> JimQode, I have to swap set for 2000MB, as I have one gig of ram.  Do I need to do anything else?  I have /dev/sda1   ext3  mount point /  as 19995 MB.  I want a data partition for music and things.  and a swap as sda2  1998 mb.  The swap shows up before the ext3 in the partition list, is that alright?
[03:25] <nuked_omen> it's a vfat
[03:25] <bionoid> nuked_omen: -o uid=1234,gid=2345
[03:25] <Ewan_> bionoid: what is unlikely? to make a screenshot?
[03:25] <bionoid> Ewan_: No that they can disable screenshot functionality from within a webpage.
[03:25] <JimQode> [91RP001] , there is a tab called switches on your mixer window.
[03:25] <bionoid> nuked_omen: obviously, pick a real UID / GID to suit your needs
[03:26] <kdubois> i cant think of a way to stop screenshots....
[03:26] <JimQode> tedbuntu, it would be better if you put the swap at the end of your drive. if you want a data partition make your / partition smaller and make a vfat partition (i suppose you want to share data with windows)
[03:26] <nuked_omen> bionoid: i obviously don't know what UID / GID or whatever you posted means, but it worked
[03:27] <bionoid> nuked_omen: Um, uid = user id, gid = group id..
[03:27] <JimQode> tedbuntu, you can set the mountpoint of your data partition something like /media/data
[03:27] <sddsa> any one have ubuntu setup as a transparent proxy
[03:27] <bionoid> nuked_omen: All users have their unique id number, type   id username in terminal
[03:27] <nuked_omen> bionoid: and how did you know one is 1234 and the other 2345?
[03:27] <bionoid> nuked_omen: Those are random numbers, thus I said you need to pick real ones for your system
[03:28] <nuked_omen> bionoid: how do i know my user id?
[03:28] <bionoid> nuked_omen: type id your_username
[03:28] <[91RP001] > JimQode: is it on alsamixer or volume control window:(. 4 ur info I've found no switches tab on both alsamixer and volume control window.
[03:28] <devcenter> hello, guys
[03:29] <tedbuntu> JimQode,  The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[03:29] <tedbuntu>  partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[03:29] <tedbuntu>  partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
[03:29] <tedbuntu> JimQOde is that normal?
[03:29] <JimQode> [91RP001] , volume control window
[03:29] <JimQode> tedbuntu, yes that is normal
[03:29] <nuked_omen> bionoid: thanks a lot, you've been very helpful
[03:29] <devcenter> any use deluge for torrent
[03:29] <bionoid> nuked_omen: np.
[03:29] <devcenter> i need to change the number of connection
[03:29] <JimQode> [91RP001] , if you dont have a switches tab be sure you don't have front and pcm muted, and they are set at a reasonable level.
[03:30] <devcenter> I change this config in preferences, but my maximum connections is 80
[03:31] <WaxyFresh> can i get some help setting up a usb harddrive?
[03:31] <younghacker> how do i update my vm-ware tools to the latest version?
[03:31] <prasad> can have a colored vim in ubuntu as i ave it in knoppix ?
[03:32] <[91RP001] > there is no switches tab on my volume control window, i just found playback and capture. the pcm has been turned on.
[03:32] <ipinx> irc://irchighway.net
[03:32] <devcenter> any here use deluge
[03:33] <devcenter> ?
[03:33] <prasad> can i have a colored vim editor in ubuntu as we have it in knoppix ?
[03:33] <prasad> can i have a colored vim editor in ubuntu as we have it in knoppix ?
[03:33] <kdubois> devcenter: whats the problem with it?
[03:33] <chains> hi
[03:34] <devcenter> i config my preferences for number of connections for 300
[03:34] <JimQode> prasad, add "syn on" to your .vimrc file
[03:34] <devcenter> but my connection number continue in 80
[03:34] <devcenter> how can i change my number of connections
[03:35] <humbolto> how to set the domain name in ubuntu dapper?
[03:35] <[91RP001] > JimQode: there is no switches tab on my volume control window, i just found playback and capture. the pcm has been turned on.
[03:35] <prasad> JimQode: would you please tell me how to do it..i am relatively new to ubuntu
[03:35] <devcenter> kduboi1, it already happen with you?
[03:35] <tedbuntu> JimQode, thank you for your help, and sorry I'm such a noob.  I'm experimenting with alternate OSs for my job.  Windows has made a few too many end-users cry.
[03:35] <JimQode> prasad, open the file ~/.vimrc in an editor and add "syn on" on a new line
[03:36] <JimQode> tedbuntu, np. have fun!
[03:36] <prasad> JimQode: ok..thanx
[03:36] <sjoerd_> hi, i have a big problem with my xorg.conf... my screen is just blank when i login, i only see my cursor... i already reconfigured xorg :(
[03:36] <chains> was wondering if someone could help me set a resolution in ubuntu if it's supported, 1920x1080 ?
[03:37] <chains> sjoerd_: always create a backup just in case you mess things up
[03:37] <younghacker> can someone help me update my vmware tools to the latest version?
[03:37] <devcenter> what's program for torrent that you use?
[03:38] <chains> anyone know if ubuntu supports 1920x1080 resolution?
[03:38] <troopperi_> sjoerd: have you been istall something that borken your x
[03:38] <sn0> chains yes
[03:38] <chains> sn0: can you help me get there?
[03:38] <acbot> chains: can you not just set that res in xorg.conf
[03:38] <xpoint> chains, if your monitor do its ok with linux :-)
[03:38] <sjoerd_> yeah i will create a backup from now on///                yes i installed GLX (i believe that was the name)
[03:38] <sn0> chains you need to have the correct drivers for your graphics card loaded, and xorg.conf edited
[03:39] <ipinx> irc.irchighway.net.
[03:39] <sn0> or alternatively run nvidia-settings and set the resolution in there
[03:39] <troopperi_> sjoerd: you got ati card
[03:39] <sn0> (if usingg nvidia)
[03:39] <troopperi_> sjoerd: ?
[03:39] <sjoerd_> no nvidia
[03:39] <chains> well i hope this doesn't discourage you guys from helping me but i have feisty on my ps3 as we speak and there is more real estate to be used on my tv
[03:39] <troopperi_> sjoerd: change xorg.conf file section "nvidia" to "vesa"
[03:39] <illriginal> So... I have Edgy Eft on PS3 :p
[03:39] <sjoerd_> k
[03:39] <Zoffix> bionoid, nope. It's something with Ubuntu. Same media, same box, on Windows copied the files without any problems what so ever.
[03:39] <sjoerd_> ill give it a try
[03:40] <chains> i have set it to 1080p (mode 5) in my kboot.conf
[03:40] <chains> which i figured would've set it to 1920x1080 by default
[03:40] <illriginal> 1080i :P
[03:40] <chains> the native resolution
[03:40] <bionoid> Zoffix: OK, that's unusual to say the least :( I have no tips except compiling new kernel, but as I said, that's probably going to take you some time :\
[03:40] <sn0> chains you might need to generate a modeline, to put in the xorg.conf, try gtf 1900 1080 60 at the terminal, change 60 to whichever refresh rate you use, then add the modeline to the xorg.conf and restart X
[03:40] <prasad> will anybody tell me how to search a file in ubuntu /
[03:40] <illriginal> Can someone help me get my microphone to work? Or maybe get recognized? Sound Recorder doesn't playback what I try to record.
[03:40] <prasad> ?
[03:41] <Zoffix> bionoid, how can I see the messages that scroll during startup? I saw there something in red saying "could not..." but it scrolled really fast :/
[03:41] <JimQode> prasad, Places / Search for files
[03:41] <sn0> prasad there are many ways, you can use shell commands like find , locate, whereis (after running updatedb)
[03:41] <chains> sn0: will running that in the terminal attempt to set it at those settings then?
[03:41] <sjoerd_> troopperi?        okay i also see the login screen on my second monitor now, but when i login its still blank...
[03:41] <sn0> or in places/search for files
[03:41] <[91RP001] > JimQode: basically, does Ubuntu 6.06 support my soundcard and chip (Intel ICH6 & Conexant id 31)?
[03:41] <bionoid> Zoffix: dmesg
[03:41] <chains> sn0: or will i have to restart x before changes take effect?
[03:41] <sn0> chains indeed
[03:41] <sn0> chains please back up the xorg.conf first :)
[03:41] <troopperi_> sjoerd: what your nvidia card model
[03:42] <sjoerd_> 7800gtx
[03:42] <JimQode> [91RP001] , Yes it does. there is something wrong with your mixer settings
[03:42] <Zoffix> bionoid, thanks for help.
[03:42] <sjoerd_> i already tried "nv" and "nvidia"
[03:42] <chains> sn0: no doubt... but when i look at my xorg.conf, it doesn't look like my current setup is reading from it
[03:42] <WaxyFresh> can someone help me mount my usb drive?
[03:42] <sn0> chains can you elaborate please, what do you mean?
[03:43] <chee> hello. why when I run the open office, the app no respond.
[03:43] <troopperi_> sjoerd: what about that "vesa"
[03:43] <chee> and the realplayer is no respond too.
[03:43] <chains> sn0: when i go to system, preferences, screen resolution, it reads: 1688x964 at 60Hz
[03:43] <[91RP001] > JimQode: I'm relieve then, but now, how can I set the mixer to make the sound work properly?
[03:43] <illriginal> Can someone help me get my microphone to work? Or maybe get recognized? Sound Recorder doesn't playback what I try to record.
[03:43] <sn0> chains can you pastebin your xorg.conf please
[03:43] <chains> but i don't see any mention of that in my xorg.conf
[03:43] <tedbuntu> WaxyFresh,  Go to system, Preferences > Removable drives and media. are the first two options checked?
[03:43] <sn0> !tell chains | pastebin
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell chains - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <chains> sn0: one sec
[03:44] <sn0> hmm :)
[03:44] <sn0> ok
[03:44] <sjoerd_> i also tried VESA but my screen is still blank after login ;(
[03:44] <JimQode> [91RP001] , just try playing with the settings. that's what i would do.
[03:44] <sjoerd_> only a cursur
[03:44] <sjoerd> sjoerd_: Could you please change your nick to something less confusing for others...
[03:44] <chains> which dir is xorg.conf in?
[03:44] <sn0> chains /etc/X11/
[03:44] <LinuxDz> hello
[03:44] <troopperi_> sjoerd: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:45] <illriginal> Can someone help me get my microphone to work? Or maybe get recognized? Sound Recorder doesn't playback what I try to record.
[03:45] <JimQode> [91RP001] , Some cards, especially 5.1 ones need some particular mixer setup to work. But I have no idea what it would be for yours.
[03:45] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: yes
[03:45] <[91RP001] > JimQode: what kind of settings:'(?
[03:45] <JimQode> [91RP001] , settings available on your mixer window
[03:46] <tedbuntu> WaxyFresh, I'm far from an expert and if you know more than me just say so, but what format is the usb drive?  Ntfs or fat32, what?
[03:46] <langezwieper> k done, screen is still blank after login
[03:46] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: im not sure,i never formated it just used it the way it came
[03:46] <caner> my keyboard layout keeps changing randomly (i still coulndnt find out how it turns) and sys/pref/keyb/layout seems o.k (it is english there) but when i try to write somewhere arabic it prints arabic letters :(( could someone please help. i am in the edge of going crazy
[03:47] <[91RP001] > JimQode: settings in where in exactly, alsamixer or volume control window or is there any mixer other than those two?
[03:47] <tedbuntu> WaxyFresh, do you have a seperate OS who recognizes the drive you can boot into?
[03:47] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: yea another ubuntu box
[03:47] <langezwieper> i typed it exactly like you said, then a screen popped up and i choose my screen res, reloaded xserver... nothing changed
[03:47] <chains> pastebin taking forever to send
[03:48] <JimQode> [91RP001] , volume control window. no there arent on default setup. both of them should be able to control all settings.
[03:48] <tedbuntu> WaxyFresh, so you have another ubuntu configuration that recognizes the drive?
[03:48] <mk110> hi
[03:48] <troopperi_> langezwieper: did you got any errors
[03:48] <illriginal> oh i see...
[03:48] <sn0> no problem chains
[03:48] <illriginal> Ubuntu 7.04 can't handle microphones
[03:48] <MrKeuner_> hi, is there a best way to go over random lockups?
[03:48] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: dont know if this helps dmesg: scsi disk sda at scsi0,channel 0,id 0, lun 0
[03:48] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: yes i do
[03:49] <langezwieper> troopperi: no, no errors at all, just login, blank...
[03:49] <[91RP001] > JimQode: thanks, I'll do my best to try ur solution:)
[03:49] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: pli
[03:50] <bl> ich bin die Lara
[03:50] <troopperi_> langezwieper: what nvidia packets you been install....
[03:50] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: im not sure what that stuff means but someone was asking for it when i tried to get help mounting this yesterday
[03:50] <chains> is there another place i can paste to?
[03:50] <tedbuntu> WaxyFresh,  well as much as I know, something is set amiss in your current box. I've only been using ubuntu for.. about 30 minutes now.  Did you try the forums?
[03:50] <langezwieper> troopperi: i installed GLX i believe, but synaptic came up that some other package would be installed too... i agreed
[03:51] <n2diy_> chains: #flood?
[03:51] <chains> sn0: http://pastebin.com/940568
[03:51] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: VFAT
[03:51] <WaxyFresh> FAT32
[03:51] <troopperi_> langezwieper: i think you should remove those packets and then try it again...
[03:51] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: no i didint,
[03:51] <sn0> chains pastebin.com tends to be very slow for some reason, could you try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[03:52] <troopperi_> langezwieper: im so busy right now, but i think here is others who knows too...
[03:52] <caner> my keyboard layout keeps changing randomly (i still coulndnt find out how it turns) and sys/pref/keyb/layout seems o.k (it is english there) but when i try to write somewhere arabic it prints arabic letters :(( could someone please help. i am in the edge of going crazy
[03:52] <langezwieper> k :)
[03:52] <tedbuntu> WaxyFresh, I'm sorry I can not be of help, I'd bet my life you know more about ubuntu than i do
[03:52] <WaxyFresh> tedbuntu: thanks
[03:52] <langezwieper> hm k thank you anywa :)
[03:52] <WaxyFresh> could anyone help me with mounting a usb drive on 5.10?
[03:53] <chains> sn0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28221/
[03:53] <beruic> bion
[03:53] <beruic> ups
[03:53] <beruic> bionoid: U there?
[03:54] <kdubois> WaxyFresh: 5.10? should pretty much the same as manually mounting the drive in edgy...
[03:54] <WaxyFresh> what do you put after glxgears to use it for a benchmark?
[03:54] <chains> sn0: there is no mention of my current resolution in the xorg.conf
[03:54] <WaxyFresh> kdubois: but im not sure what that is
[03:54] <chains> so i'm assuming i'm getting/reading my resolution settings from somewhere else?
[03:55] <sn0> chains what graphics card are yyou using? it seems you are usingg the 'fbdev' driver for Xorg
[03:55] <chains> sn0: whatever the ps3 uses
[03:55] <beruic> bionoid: I have commented out all mouse entries in xorg.conf and uninstalled xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and xserver-xorg-input-wacom, but doesn't work :'(
[03:55] <sn0> oh ps3 you say
[03:55] <WaxyFresh> anyone ever have problems getting a marvell technology group ethernet controler working?
[03:55] <sn0> i ee
[03:56] <chains> yah, that's how i have this hooked up to my 60" tv :)
[03:56] <chains> and why i'm trying to get it to run at 1920x1080
[03:56] <sn0> nice :-) ok well you should check out http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13
[03:57] <chains> sn0: thanks, i've been trying to find an article on this
[03:58] <sn0> chains also please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=425527&highlight=ps3
[03:58] <sn0> if you want to loan me your ps3 + tv im happy to test, but hopefully some of that works for you
[03:58] <sn0> ;] 
[03:58] <toolive> wow that's hot buntu on ps3
[03:58] <chains> yah, i hope so. i mean it's fine the way it is but why not use up the rest of my screen space :)
[03:58] <toolive> wow
[03:59] <sn0> toolive ps3 ran linux from day 1 :)
[03:59] <toolive> ubuntu
[03:59] <sorsis> i'm having trouble with medibuntu gpg check
[03:59] <sn0> pity about the graphics driver.. but hopfully that will change
[03:59] <toolive> not the others
[03:59] <caner> my keyboard layout keeps changing randomly (i still coulndnt find out how it turns) and sys/pref/keyb/layout seems o.k (it is english there) but when i try to write somewhere arabic it prints arabic letters :(( could someone please help. i am in the edge of going crazy
[03:59] <toolive> lol
[03:59] <JiffaJaffa> toolive, Yellowdog is like the specific one to it, but it sucks ^^
[03:59] <toolive> correct that's why i'm happy to see ubuntu is working on it
[04:00] <JiffaJaffa> toolive, Ummm, wifi fix for yellowdog though <3
[04:01] <n2diy_> caner: strike three your out. Nobody understands your question, rephrase it, and take another at bat?
[04:01] <CapeTown_> Is anyone kind enough to point me in the direction of a 10 windows PC network solution for using Ubuntu as a FileServer plus enterprise strength backup solution. I am new to Ubuntu. I just need some solid pointers to the correct software, wiki/website articles, etc. Thank you.
[04:01] <amon__> If I wish to open MP3S in Ardour and Rezound/Audacity - which libs do I need to install?
[04:02] <toolive> i'm still trying to get unbuntu to connect to my WPA wireless Router in AES mode
[04:02] <toolive> will only work in WEP 128 mode
[04:02] <sn0> capetown have you heard of samba ? it can act as a primary domain controller
[04:03] <sn0> capetown https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC , as for back up well there are many solutions really
[04:03] <linuxboy> CapeTown_: you from Cape Town ?
[04:06] <CapeTown_> {I am from Cape Town, South Africa - there are a lot of people living here - I probably won't have heard of a friend you think is living here! :-)} sn0 : I will check out samba!
[04:07] <sn0> capetown the ubuntu wiki is where you want to start :-)
[04:07] <Rage_> I understand that one can compile windoz source using winelib in some way, can any one point me at a page that tells me how? :)
[04:07] <CapeTown_> sn0 : thanks!
[04:07] <sn0> your welcome
[04:08] <amon__> If I wish to open MP3S in Ardour and Rezound/Audacity - which libs do I need to install?
[04:09] <sorsis> how do i get my lower bar similar to what it is in macosx?
[04:10] <JimQode> sorsis, if you are using desktop effects, try avant-window-navigator
[04:10] <Rage_> amon__: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs ask google.
[04:11] <llllllll> I've got a 4gb image of a partition made with 'dd', and I want to put it in 4gb of unallocated space on my hard-drive. How would I go about doing this without damaging any of the other partitions on the disk. Presumably using dd again, or gparted?
[04:11] <sorsis> JimQode: what desktop effects?
[04:11] <JimQode> sorsis, wobbly windows and desktop on a cube
[04:12] <sorsis> JimQode: so it's part of combiz or beryl?
[04:12] <JimQode> llllllll, make a partition of the same size with gparted. dd to it
[04:13] <Some_Person> When I had compiz on a few months ago, there was an ubuntu logo at the top/bottom of the cube
[04:13] <Some_Person> where is that logo stored?
[04:13] <JimQode> sorsis, it uses compisiting actually. if you are using compiz or beryl your composoting should be working fine
[04:13] <beruic> bionoid: Problem seems solved. I have comented every mouse entry except the one called ConfiguredMouse out, and all the drivers are installed. It didn't work with uninstalling
[04:14] <llllllll> JimQode: so I need to make a partition first, and then dd the copied partition's image over to it? That will create a clone of the copied partition?
[04:14] <JimQode> llllllll, yes
[04:14] <llllllll> cheers
[04:16] <chains> sn0, ps3 won' boot right now
[04:16] <chains> stops on the boot
[04:16] <chains> after kboot
[04:16] <chains> you know how i can get in to revert back to the old kboot.conf?
[04:17] <WaxyFresh> arrrg can somebody please help me set up either a usb drive or a marvel technology  Ethernet controler?
[04:17] <sn0> chains use the livecd to restore the backup conf
[04:17] <SwordManX> has anyone here tried installing / using ubuntu within parallels?
[04:17] <sn0> maybe check if there is a ps3 channel chains , im not sure this falls under ubuntu support
[04:18] <stela> hii...siapapun kamu slmt mlm aja
[04:18] <chains> sn0, do you have the 2 urls you posted to me earlier?
[04:18] <stela> mlm...
[04:19] <sn0> chains http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=425527&highlight=ps3  http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13
[04:19] <sn0> also search ps3 on the ubuntuforums, for more
[04:20] <Some_Person> Where is the ubuntu effects (compiz) cube logo located?
[04:22] <WaxyFresh> my usb drive shows up in disks manager but nowhere else its device name is /dev/sda how do i mount this?
[04:22] <rope> Hi, i have xubuntu-desktop installed, and i want to switch to fluxubuntu how can i do?
[04:23] <ahmed> storm_nodi_eg@yahoo
[04:23] <JiffaJaffa> Some_Person, Id ask inside #ubuntu-effects
[04:23] <Some_Person> #ubuntu-effects is dead
[04:23] <sn0> rope you can install fluxbox from synaptic/apt-get/aptitude then log out, choose session > fluxbox and log in
[04:23] <Some_Person> don't direct people there any more
[04:23] <marc_> kan ik in fstab iets als "//server/download schijf"  "/media/download schijf"  smbfs  credentials=~/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777  0  0  neerzetten, of mogen er geen aanhalingstekens om de mappen heen?
[04:24] <marc_> oops
[04:24] <marc_> wrong language :P
[04:24] <rope> sn0: And if i want to remove xubuntu?
[04:24] <Some_Person> no one is ever there to help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:24] <Pici> rope: if you want the 'real' fluxbuntu, you might want to ask in #fluxbuntu, as it isnt an official Ubuntu release.
[04:24] <sn0> rope im not sure if fluxbuntu is a ubuntu project, so maybe check their website for more on the real fluxubuntu
[04:24] <sn0> ah Pici beat me to it :)
[04:25] <rope> sn0: Ok, thank you
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> ive tried everything i can to mount this drive can someone please  help me
[04:25] <dr_willis> WaxyFresh,  you SURE its not /dev/sda1
[04:25] <dr_willis> WaxyFresh,  when in doubt. mount it manually
[04:26] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: what drive is it? hda1?
[04:26] <WaxyFresh> dr_willis: i tried to mount it manually but im not that good yet,disk manager sys its here,/dev/sda
[04:26] <WaxyFresh> says^
[04:27] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: go to terminal
[04:27] <WaxyFresh> Some_Person: yup
[04:27] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: type: sudo mkdir /mount/sda1
[04:27] <Some_Person> then type: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount/sda1
[04:27] <dr_willis> WaxyFresh,  Unless its a cdrom drive. its NOT /dev/sda
[04:27] <SHAW> Is there a difference between acquiring UBUNTU with Wubi or downloading a disc and installing Ubuntu?
[04:28] <dr_willis> WaxyFresh,  sda is the drive. sda1 is the furst partition on the drive
[04:28] <Penseur> bonjour
[04:28] <Some_Person> oops sorry
[04:28] <Some_Person> ignore that last command, instead type: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount/sda1
[04:28] <Pici> !fr | Penseur
[04:28] <ubotu> Penseur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:28] <WaxyFresh> Some_Person: mkdir cannot creat directory '/mount/sda1': no such file/dir
[04:29] <Some_Person> oops, sorry again
[04:29] <dr_willis> heh. :)
[04:29] <Some_Person> change mount in both commands to media
[04:29] <Some_Person> so its
[04:29] <Some_Person> sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[04:29] <chains> sn0, if i boot from the live cd, will all my partitions be mounted so i can just edit the /etc/kboot.conf?
[04:29] <WaxyFresh> dr_willis: then why would the disk manager say that my la[ptop has a second 80gig HD  at /sda?weird
[04:29] <Some_Person> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[04:30] <Mark__> i need help finding my gaim logs
[04:30] <dr_willis> WaxyFresh,  your disk is sda, the partitions are sda1
[04:30] <vox754> WaxyFresh, give the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin
[04:30] <dr_willis> you would 'fdisk /dev/sda' but 'mkfs /dev/sda1' :)  one is for the disk. one is a partition on the disk
[04:30] <dr_willis> those are example commands.
[04:30] <varun0> Mark__: ~/.gaim/logs
[04:31] <WaxyFresh> vox754: i cant no interweb on the box im working on,need to get the usb working so i can upgrade/setup drivers
[04:31] <samuel> Ol
[04:31] <samuel> seus gays
[04:31] <cmihai> How do you force remove a broken package from the database?
[04:31] <cmihai> dpkg: error processing netkit-inetd (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 126
[04:31] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: type the two commands I just posted
[04:31] <samuel> quem fala portugus ai?
[04:32] <Pici> !br | samuel
[04:32] <ubotu> samuel: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:32] <WaxyFresh> vox754: sda1 id b sys w95 fat32
[04:32] <cmihai> That stops me from installing anything that conflicts with that... like another inetd or whatever.
[04:32] <mavsman4457> hello i recently installed a custom kernel which switched sda1 to ps3sda1 i think and then i installed the updates through the update manager and it gave me an outdated kernel which i think tried to change it back to sda1 and now my ubuntu won't boot up
[04:32] <samuel> blz
[04:32] <WaxyFresh> Some_Person: what commands?
[04:33] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: i'll type them again
[04:33] <WaxyFresh> thanks
[04:33] <samuel> #ubuntu-br Ol
[04:33] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[04:33] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[04:33] <SHAW> Wubi
[04:33] <samuel> E ai galera ?
[04:34] <vox754> samuel, write this "/j #ubuntu-br"
[04:34] <samuel> t comeando a usar o LInux tb
[04:34] <samuel> hehehehehe
[04:34] <Pici> samuel: escribe /j #ubuntu-r
[04:34] <Some_Person> !br | samuel
[04:34] <ubotu> samuel: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:34] <cmihai> And yeah, I did try dpkg --force-all --remove netkit-inetd
[04:35] <WaxyFresh> Some_Person: thanks! its working now dont know why it didint before
[04:35] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: You're welcome
[04:35] <vox754> WaxyFresh, if you can chat here, you should be able to use the pastebin. I didn't understand you earlier.
[04:35] <cmihai> Ah bloody hell, the script is buggy.
[04:35] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: You may want to add a line in fstab to make it auto-mount on boot
[04:36] <SHAW> Just checking in..
[04:36] <adop> cmihai, have u tired using synaptic to remove it?
[04:36] <WaxyFresh> vox754: i have 2 laptops setup
[04:36] <cmihai> adop: yeah, it's all crap.
[04:37] <WaxyFresh> vox754: one has the interweb the other dosent
[04:37] <cmihai> adop: the netkit-inetd.prerm file was trying to shut down the service.
[04:37] <cmihai> adop: via inetd, that didn't exist (duh)
[04:37] <SHAW> Be back later.....
[04:37] <sjoerd_> Hi I have a problem after installing GLX nvidia, after I log in I have a blank screen while the mouse is still visible. I already tried to reconfigure xorg.conf but this didnt help.
[04:37] <cmihai> adop: so I just replaced /etc/init.d/inetd stop with "echo J00 SUCK" and it works :-)
[04:37] <Astrome> i need help
[04:37] <cmihai> Guess I should submit some kind of bug report for the package...
[04:38] <Astrome> installing a javapulgin
[04:38] <Astrome> how do i do it?
[04:38] <Astrome> hello?
[04:38] <Pici> !java | Astrome take a look at these links
[04:38] <ubotu> Astrome take a look at these links: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:38] <kitche> !patience | Astrome
[04:38] <ubotu> Astrome: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:38] <Astrome> thanks?
[04:39] <sel> What kind of plugin?
[04:39] <Some_Person> WaxyFresh: And if the drive is NTFS, you may want to download (maybe on another system and stick on a disk) ntfs-3g to get NTFS read/write working
[04:39] <Astrome> like to run the java stuff
[04:39] <Astrome> sory
[04:39] <Astrome> like on webpages
[04:39] <kitche> !enter
[04:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:39] <sel> You mean in a web browser?
[04:39] <Pici> Astrome: look at the links that ubotu posted for you above.
[04:39] <Astrome> yes
[04:39] <jenda> Is there a way to export values from SQL to a txt/csv/any-usable-format file so that it could be translated and re-imported?
[04:39] <sel> ok you are not using 64bit?
[04:40] <kitche> jenda: yes look up sql dump it's part of SQL
[04:40] <newuser01> what is needed to make 3D aplications run in feisty?
[04:40] <jenda> kitche: ok, thx
[04:40] <Astrome> i quit
[04:40] <jenda> kitche: it'll actually be quite difficult, because I only need to know it for my friend, who's website's admin says it's not possible :)
[04:41] <kitche> isn't it fun when you try to help soemone that they don't read the help they are given
[04:41] <sel> jenda you can probably do that iwth an AQL statement
[04:41] <sel> *SQL
[04:41] <jenda> sel: what's a statement?
[04:41] <defrysk> kitche, its not fun when someone is totally new and got a bunch of ubotu's messages
[04:41] <kitche> jenda: well if there's no way to access mysql or the sql you can't really dump the database
[04:42] <sel> well depends
[04:42] <defrysk> kitche, in short you were wrong
[04:42] <kitche> defrysk: yeah well we actually asked him what he ran and such and he left
[04:42] <defrysk> kitche, sorry then it was someone else
[04:42] <sel> eg: select name + " " + familyname from names
[04:42] <jenda> kitche: well, that I know ;) but I need to convince the 'remote admin' that it's possible.
[04:42] <The_Machine> i just upgraded my nvidia driver (kubuntu released) and everything feels "slower".  Any suggestions?   Graphics related things - Even if i shut beryl off, etc. and i'm using Kwin.  Everything's dragging..
[04:43] <kitche> jenda: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqldump.html if it;'s mysql that is if it's postegres or soemthing there's tools for that also
[04:44] <jenda> kitche: thanks :)
[04:44] <Pici> jenda: if its a hosted site with phpmyadmin or similar, it might be built into to the gui
[04:44] <jenda> Will look into it.
[04:44] <The_Machine> anyone?  Bueller?  :)
[04:44] <kitche> Pici: nah seems like only the web admin has access to the databases or the system admin that is
[04:45] <DanaG> I just enabled DRI on a Celeron 700 laptop with S3 Savage IX graphics.
[04:45] <DanaG> glxgears went from '1 frame every 10 seconds' to 1 fps or so.
[04:45] <lllllll1> Is there a terminal command that will tell me the format of a specified partition? FAT16, 32, NTFS...
[04:45] <dod1450> Hello. During the installation process I had noticed that I was not able to format the existing partition that is currently is in use by suse, reiser. I also have a partion that has XP , which I need for speicfic applications that is not supported with wine and other emulator. What did I missed during the installtion?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[04:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:45] <kitche> jenda: by chance what is your host?
[04:46] <newuser01> i get an error saying that i need OpenGL and GtkGLExt python libraries to run an aplication in 3D mode, but when i search synaptic for GtkGLExt python libraries i get 0 results =S
[04:46] <DanaG> lllllll1: sudo vol_id /dev/whatever
[04:46] <Pici> dod1450: The install should have asked you if you wanted to partition the drive yourself or have it do it for you...
[04:46] <bulmer> dod1450: the install leaves a file system undisturbed..it doest format it..but I think it does askyou where you like to install the new ubuntu
[04:47] <lllllll1> DanaG: thanks a lot
[04:47] <sjoerd_> Hi I have a problem after installing GLX nvidia, after I log in I have a blank screen while the mouse is still visible. I already tried to reconfigure xorg.conf but this didnt help.
[04:47] <mavsman4457> DanaG, i recently installed a custom kernel which switched sda1 to ps3sda1 i think and then i installed the updates through the update manager and it gave me an outdated kernel which i think tried to change it back to sda1 and now my ubuntu won't boot up
[04:48] <dod1450> Pice, Thank you. I did do the manual and it did asked if I wanted to use the whole physical disk. Not the part that has linux.
[04:48] <cmihai> So, with netkit-inetd broken, what's the proper way to get a telnetd server on Ubuntu?
[04:48] <kitche> newuser01: python-gtk2 is probably one package you need
[04:48] <Mark__> i need help installing Windows over ubuntu
[04:48] <sel> sjoerd does the mouse pointer still move?
[04:48] <wiglaf> How do I impose time restrictions on user accounts?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !grub
[04:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:49] <gaten> is there anyway to reset the media keys to their original default value?
[04:49] <kitche> Mark__: what's so hard about formatting the ubuntu partition with ntfs and installing Windows over it since it's more of a Windowsa question then a ubuntuone
[04:49] <Mark__>  well bcuz it wouldnt let me
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Mark__: Ubuntu wouldn't let you?
[04:49] <Mark__> yea
[04:49] <newuser01> kitche: thank you, i will look for it now =)
[04:49] <root> Hey, I am trying to maintain settings for new users (desktop background, menus) and I have tried copying a model "home" to /etc/skel, but that just gives me the desktop icons when I make new users. I need to make many users on the server. Any help?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Mark__: how are you trying to install?
[04:50] <Mark__> nv,
[04:50] <Mark__> nvm
[04:50] <DaSkreech> root: Don't IRC as root
[04:50] <root> sorry, thats what it came up as
[04:50] <gaten> bad mojo
[04:50] <dod1450> very bad mojo
[04:50] <sel> root IRC is not very secure you are risking your system there
[04:51] <a_person> i changed it
[04:51] <kitche> doesn't even look like he is root :)
[04:51] <a_person> oh
[04:51] <kitche> just his nick was root
[04:51] <dod1450> anyone palnning on attending defcon.org next month?
[04:51] <bloodytux> Hello, I am dual booting Ubuntu 7.04 and Windows XP. I'm trying to enter XP so i can copy some files to a disk, but I have a USB keyboard and it won't work before it loads up the drivers and the one PS/2 keyboard I have doesn't work for some reason... What should I do?
[04:51] <a_person> actually i am in root right now
[04:52] <cmihai> Hm... apparently they all need some kind of inetd to run a telnetd daemon. And netkit-inetd is broken. Any ideas?
[04:52] <gaten> a_person: then you should close irc, login as a regular user and come back
[04:52] <kitche> !offtopic | dod1450
[04:52] <ubotu> dod1450: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:52] <sjoerd_> sell_ yes i can still move the cursor
[04:52] <bloodytux> Can anyone help?
[04:53] <stefg> bloodytux: check in the bios, there's often some USB-keyboard support taht needs to be switched on
[04:53] <thomas_> i would like to program a gui for my program. what should i start with ?
[04:53] <bloodytux> ... How do I get into BIOS if I can't press delete or any other buttons....
[04:53] <mavsman4457> some love for the ps3 user here?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> mavsman4457: try #ps3-linux
[04:54] <mavsman4457> ok thanks
[04:54] <todger> hi i am installing ubuntu on a laptop with only 256Mb ram and a 40Gb HDD - which flavour is going to work best, Kubuntu or standard Ubuntu?
[04:54] <stefg> bloodytux: good question... you'll need a working Ps/2 keyboard
[04:54] <Pici> todger: ubuntu should be fine.
[04:54] <kitche> todger: all 3 work fine on that
[04:54] <bloodytux> :(
[04:54] <mavsman4457> DaSkreech, dang I was the only one in there
[04:54] <sel> sjoerd have you tried different sessions from the GDM?
[04:54] <todger> cools thanks
[04:54] <JimQode> todger, ram is a little scarce. if ubuntu feels slow try xubuntu
[04:54] <DaSkreech> mavsman4457: Whoops #ps3linux
[04:55] <sjoerd> sel: Please talk to sjoerd_, not me
[04:55] <sel> ;P
[04:55] <sjoerd> sel: And be sure to thank him for using a very confusing nickname
[04:55] <stefg> bloodytux: so go and blame the bios-vendor, this has nothing to do with Linux
[04:55] <kitche> JimQode: you can run any linux on 128mb if you want to without having problems
[04:55] <langezwieper> changed it ;)
[04:55] <thomas_> what do i have to install to be able to use gtk
[04:55] <a_person> I have to keep settings like the desktop background and menus when I make a few hundred accounts. I tried copying a model "home" to /etc/skel, but that just maintains the desktop icons, any help?
[04:55] <bloodytux> k
[04:55] <langezwieper> okay sell other nickname now :)
[04:56] <cmihai> Ah, nevermind, finally got it working with OpenBSD inetd. Damnable thing.
[04:56] <sel> kk
[04:56] <todger> JimQode: oh ok. how will I uninstall ubuntu and replace it with xubuntu?
[04:56] <langezwieper> i dont know what you mean with different session on GDM so i suppose not :)
[04:57] <The_Machine> i just upgraded my nvidia driver (kubuntu released) and everything feels "slower".  Any suggestions?   Graphics related things - Even if i shut beryl off, etc. and i'm using Kwin.  Everything's dragging..
[04:57] <JimQode> todger, delete ubuntu partitions using install cd gnome partition ediyor, install xubuntu
[04:57] <cmihai> todger: just install xubuntu-dekstop (aptitude install)
[04:57] <todger> ok
[04:57] <sel> there should be some drop down or button etc at the log-in screen that you can change sessions with
[04:57] <cmihai> todger: Don't reinstall mate, just install xubuntu from your current Ubuntu.
[04:58] <todger> cmihai: ok. will it be possible to get rid of the ubuntu files then, since I won't need them anymore?
[04:58] <cmihai> This whole X/K/*/Ubuntu is just bullshit anyway. Same OS, different packages on the CD.
[04:58] <langezwieper> sel im the only user
[04:58] <cmihai> todger: aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <yondie> cmihai, more like diffrenet windows manager
[04:58] <cmihai> todger: the *ubuntu-desktop stuff is erm... the "distros"
[04:58] <leeyee> Hi, I want to convert some man pages to pdf format or some other printable format, anyone help me?
[04:58] <cmihai> yondie: nah, KDE/Gnome/XFCE are desktops... more than a wm.. but that's pretty much the idea.
[04:58] <sel> langezweiper not a different user - a different log in type
[04:59] <todger> cmihai: oh, so i keep that whatever I choose to use?
[04:59] <langezwieper> sel k ill give it a try :) rebooting right now :)-
[04:59] <sel> ;)
[04:59] <yondie> todger, give it a try
[04:59] <DanaG> Odd, though glxgears says it's giving 66 FPS, I'm only visually seeing 1 FPS.
[05:00] <todger> ok. well it didn't give an option for xubuntu from the first install screen...so i'll see how ubuntu runs first i guess
[05:00] <yondie> DanaG, glxgears should give something higher then 66fps
[05:00] <langezwieper> sel what session should i choose?
[05:01] <sel> I'm not sure what your options are
[05:01] <langezwieper> sel (previous session, run xclient script, gnome, kkde, gnome safe mode, xterm safe mode)
[05:01] <cmihai> leeyee: troff :-)
[05:01] <stefg> leeyee: man [command]  > output.txt .. will give you a plain text file, you can, for example, open this with openoffice and print to pdf
[05:01] <sel> try gnome
[05:01] <moonlite> leeyee: would PS be ok? If so, then just search up the man page in yelp and press print and then print to file
[05:01] <cmihai> leeyee: you want to print them?
[05:01] <leeyee> yup
[05:02] <langezwieper> sel should i make it the default type?
[05:02] <vidar42> so happy to find an ubuntu support channel...having issues getting my SD Internal card reader working on my Acer 5100 laptop.  Just installed ubuntu, worked fine under Windows, but now I can't access it.  It's not showing in the /dev directory, but it is showing in the Hardware Information screen
[05:02] <cmihai> leeyee: groff -man /usr/share/man/man7/man.7.gz | lpr
[05:02] <sel> not for now
[05:02] <younghacker> do i have to install special drivers to get a SONY external floppy drive to work on Ubuntu inside of a VM?
[05:02] <cmihai> leeyee: just send stuff through groff to format them for printing.
[05:02] <Some_Person> Can I put a skin on non-ubuntu-skin-aware programs?
[05:02] <Some_Person> for example, GMan
[05:02] <langezwieper> sel nope not working still a white desktop :(
[05:03] <leeyee> cmihai: I don't have a printer on the machine, i'd like to print them on my friend's, so I need a file
[05:03] <moonlite> cmihai: why send him to the terminal when there's a perfectly sensible gui-way of doing it?
[05:03] <sel> ok try the gnome safe mode then
[05:03] <KarlJohan> Hi can anyone help me with a D-link g520+ in Ubuntu 7.04???
[05:03] <langezwieper> sel k rebooting :)
[05:03] <DaSkreech> You are installing Ubuntu on a D-Link?
[05:03] <moonlite> leeyee: do it the way i told you. You can print the psotscript-file at your friends
[05:04] <cmihai> moonlite: Since bare troff is unusable by humans, a race of gods now gone created macro packages ...
[05:04] <KarlJohan> No i want the wireless card to work with ubuntu but i doesnt seem to work
[05:04] <leeyee> cmihai: got an error: 'lpr: Error - scheduler not responding!'
[05:04] <DaSkreech> bcm43xx is a broadcom driver?
[05:04] <DanaG> aack, resizing the window slaughtered Xorg.
[05:05] <leeyee> maybe I lost something installed?
[05:05] <cmihai> leeyee: Well, that's cause you're not using a printer...
[05:05] <cmihai> Oh well.
[05:05] <langezwieper> sel nope still a white screen :(
[05:05] <KarlJohan> how do i know if the dlink uses broadcom
[05:05] <jenda> kitche: well, for one thing, I live in the Czech Republic, so you wouldn't know them, and for another, I don't know, as it's a friend's admin - and I doubt the friend would even know :D
[05:05] <cmihai> leeyee: > out.ps instead of | lpr
[05:05] <stefg> KarlJohan: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/D-Link
[05:06] <moonlite> :)
[05:06] <cmihai> leeyee: or just use the GUI, leave troff to the gods ;P
[05:06] <cmihai> (that's a Brian Kernighan quote btw)
[05:07] <langezwieper> Sel, KDE is working, whats next? dont like kde :p
[05:07] <leeyee> cmihai: thank you, however the file contains only some strange symbols
[05:07] <wsjunior> i would like to execute the commad: ati-config --set-powerstate=1 everytime i switch to battery mode, how can i do this?
[05:07] <wsjunior> to save battery life
[05:07] <Some_Person> Can I make a program like this look better in ubuntu: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3452/gmanij7.png
[05:07] <pike_> KarlJohan: lspci -v or sudo lshw
[05:07] <cmihai> %!PS-Adobe-3.0
[05:08] <cmihai> %%Creator: groff version 1.18.1
[05:08] <wsjunior> it should be done automatically but it seems its not working
[05:08] <cmihai> Looks like valid PS here
[05:08] <cmihai> Oh well. Just use the GUI
[05:08] <sel> langezweiper take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290822&highlight=blank+desktop&page=2
[05:08] <g[r] eek> hi in server edition (at terminal prompt) how do i check my network configuratin
[05:08] <thomas_> what do I have to install in order to be able to program with gtk
[05:08] <KarlJohan> It says that if im using the A3 version it will not work because of the TI chipset, damn!
[05:08] <vidar42> having issues getting my SD Internal card reader working on my Acer 5100 laptop.  Just installed ubuntu, worked fine under Windows, but now I can't access it.  It's not showing in the /dev directory, but it is showing in the Hardware Information screen...any ideas where to go from here?
[05:09] <leeyee> cmihai: which GUI program to be used?
[05:09] <moonlite> leeyee: yelp
[05:09] <moonlite> (as i told you before)
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Some_Person: Eww Gtk1
[05:09] <langezwieper> k, thx will have a look
[05:09] <cmihai> leeyee: Gnome manpage reader or whatever...
[05:09] <cmihai> moonlite: reason 103 not to use the GUI: printing all manpages and converting them to a book :P
[05:10] <stefg> Some_Person: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+1.2/+bug/71071
[05:10] <leeyee> cmihai: well, i've tried that before, Gnome-Helper, yeah? However, I'm not sure where to open man.gz file
[05:10] <Some_Person> stefg: thanks
[05:10] <KarlJohan> What card should I then by for my desktop, my only demands are min: 54 mbps and working with Ubuntu 7.04.
[05:11] <wsjunior> i would like to execute the commad: ati-config --set-powerstate=1 everytime i switch to battery mode, how can i do this?
[05:11] <stefg> !udev
[05:11] <g[r] eek> !network
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <stefg> bot's out for lunch
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !anything
[05:12] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> heeheeheehee
[05:12] <g[r] eek> anyone? want to configure my network settings, in server edition (ie: no gui. all command line)
[05:12] <slestak> thats funny.  i dont care who you are
[05:13] <stefg> wsjunior: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[05:13] <leeyee> well, exactly speaking, I just want to print "man man" page
[05:13] <lazz0> DaSkreech, owned by a bot? :)))
[05:13] <slestak> stefg: udev rule or acpi script?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[05:13] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:13] <IceLink> Hey
[05:13] <DaSkreech> :-D
[05:14] <skirk> ^_^
[05:14] <younghacker> where can i go for documentation on shell scripting?
[05:14] <pike_> g[r] eek: you mean like autoconnect on boot? the intface can be added to /etc/network/interfaces
[05:14] <sel> g[r] eek you know about ifconfig etc?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> !commands
[05:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:14] <stefg> slestak: excellent catch... yeah, acpi event sounds more like it
[05:14] <kitche> !msgthebot | DaSkreech
[05:14] <ubotu> DaSkreech: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:14] <IceLink> Is there a possibility to make ^  ` deadkeys? (using gnome)
[05:14] <DaSkreech> kitche: that last one was in response to younghacker's request
[05:14] <pike_> younghacker: you can ask in #bash but for the simple stuff they will just point to you documentation
[05:14] <DaSkreech> !commands | younghacker
[05:14] <ubotu> younghacker: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:15] <g[r] eek> !ifconfig
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <younghacker> cool
[05:15] <slestak> wsjunior: i was thinking you would need it somewhere in /etc/acpi/events/battery...
[05:15] <cmihai> leeyee: sorry mate, my mistake.
[05:15] <Zoffix> !msgthebot > g[r] eek
[05:15] <cmihai> leeyee: I forgot the gzcat :P
[05:15] <younghacker> thanks @ pike Skreech & ubotu
[05:15] <g[r] eek> thanks Zoffix
[05:15] <cmihai> leeyee: that thing is zipped, just upzip it and groff will do wonders.
[05:15] <moonlite> leeyee: is it the manpage for the command "man" you want to print?
[05:16] <leeyee> moonlite: yeah, one of them
[05:16] <younghacker> !commands
[05:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:16] <Some_Person> Is there an Ubuntu Human GTK 1 theme?
[05:16] <newuser01> i still cant run programs in 3D, even with the OpenGL and python-gtk2 libraries >.<
[05:16] <cmihai> leeyee: just use groff, but run | gzcat or gunzip ok?
[05:16] <stati1> anybody w/ fglrx experience? I'm totally lost...
[05:16] <langezwieper> sel it doenst worek for me
[05:16] <sel> :(
[05:16] <langezwieper> id
[05:16] <slestak> anyone have banshee + audioscrobbler working?  its giving me fits
[05:17] <banfrog> hello guys, i was just after some advice on how to share an internet connection using a USB modem in an already networked environment
[05:17] <slestak> im using ppp not managed by NetworkManager, and I think that may make a difference
[05:17] <langezwieper> sel luckly i still have VISTA :d :p
[05:17] <DaSkreech> banfrog: Make the computer it's attached to a gateway
[05:17] <defrysk> slestak, bashee plugins audioscrobbler settings username passwd
[05:17] <sel> lol
[05:17] <slestak> !ipforwarding
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipforwarding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <patient> hi
[05:17] <thomas_> has nobody an idea how to install gtk+ on ubuntu
[05:17] <langezwieper> no other ideas
[05:17] <wsjunior> slestak: there isnt such directory in my system
[05:17] <Rage_> !masqurade
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about masqurade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Mariengs> por favor necesito alguien q hable espaol
[05:18] <Zoffix> !es | Mariengs
[05:18] <ubotu> Mariengs: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:18] <slestak> banfrog: you need either ip_forwarding or masquaerade (sp)
[05:18] <thomas_> !gtk+
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <thomas_> !gtk
[05:18] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[05:18] <patient> Looking for something to manage my private network, can someone advise me??
[05:18] <moonlite> leeyee: if you type "man man" in yelp it will pop up and from there you can print it (for example you can print it to file/postscript).
[05:18] <thomas_> !GUI
[05:18] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[05:19] <Mariengs> gracias ubotu
[05:19] <banfrog> DaSkreech: I was thinking that but i don't know how to get the usb modem to be a networked device
[05:19] <patient> wich one??
[05:19] <thomas_> !Qt
[05:19] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[05:19] <thomas_> !GTK
[05:19] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[05:19] <Zoffix> !msgthebot | thomas_
[05:19] <leeyee> cmihai: could you make it more clear? i've untared it to normal file
[05:19] <ubotu> thomas_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:19] <leeyee>  "groff -man ~/tmp/man.1" | gunzip ?
[05:19] <defrysk> thomas_, please stop flooding the channel with ubotus messages please
[05:19] <leeyee> seems not work
[05:20] <thomas_> sorry
[05:20] <leeyee> moonlite: yup, this way works
[05:20] <patient> Someone help me
[05:20] <leeyee> moonlite: but I'm wondering to do it in console in another way ^_^
[05:20] <cmihai> leeyee: cat /usr/share/man/man7/groff.7.gz | gunzip | groff -man > out2.ps
[05:20] <cmihai> leeyee: want that in pdf? ps2pdf out2.ps
[05:20] <GaryvdM> Please will someone help me. I have installed PostgreSQL on my kubuntu edgy box, but when I try run pg_ctl, it says Command not found. Where would pg_ctl normaly be installed on the fs, or how I can find out?
[05:21] <g[r] eek> ok messing around with ifconfig, i've got an eth0 device. why is there a "lo" device? what is that?
[05:21] <cmihai> leeyee: the output looks great.
[05:21] <Zoffix> g[r] eek, it's loopback your own box
[05:21] <patient> Hey, tell me if UBUNTU is available to manage a private network??
[05:21] <Mariengs> ubotu porfa pasame la direccion otra vez... q cerre la ventana por error
[05:21] <g[r] eek> so then eth0 (the only other device) must be my network card correct?
[05:21] <langezwieper> anyone else has ideas for my problem (white screen on login af
[05:21] <g[r] eek> ie: the device which i need to set ip/dns/gateway for.
[05:22] <leeyee> moonlite: yup
[05:22] <cmihai> leeyee: "cat /usr/share/man/man7/groff.7.gz | gunzip | groff -man > out2.ps && ps2pdf out2.ps && xpdf out2.pdf" -> make sure you have ps2pdf installed :-). Just cat the manpage you want, OK? Make sure it's not zipped though. groff -man will do the job and make it into a nice looking PostScript
[05:22] <thomas_> is it necessary to compile gtk+ yourself
[05:22] <cursor1> hi , i got some trouble with an external usb hardrive in ubunti , any help?
[05:22] <banfrog> it would make sense to me if were ethX but i don't know how to deal with a usb device in a networking situation
[05:22] <thomas_> or is it possible to install it in the ubuntu way - apt get install
[05:22] <bloodytux> how do i install all the recommended packages for wine?
[05:22] <leeyee> cmihai: that works. I have a well configured LaTeX system, so ps2pdf is not a problem. Thank you!
[05:22] <Pici> thomas_: install it from the repos
[05:22] <Mariengs> por favor espaol
[05:23] <kitche> thomas_: yes both gtk+ can be installed from the repos
[05:23] <stefg> !es
[05:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:23] <giany911> guys how can i add a shortcut to some app in the applications menu ?
[05:23] <stati1> fglrx: blank screen in 64bit lowlatency kernel (tried other kernels as well). Totally hangs my system. Where do I find log files for Xorg??? And should I be getting the driver from universe or multiverse or what?
[05:23] <leeyee> cmihai: it do have a well aligned looks in PDF
[05:23] <thomas_> Pici, how is the packet named ?
[05:23] <jenkins420> I have a 100.8 MB .avi video and I want to make 2 seperate videos from it.  What software should I use?
[05:23] <sel> langezweiper: try making a new user then logging in as the new user see if anyhting is better that way
[05:23] <cmihai> leeyee: yeah, troff is great. Used to do small stuff that wasn't worth a full blown TeX :-)
[05:24] <pike_> bloodytux: i think aptitude may install recommended packages too by default not sure if there is an apt-get switch
[05:24] <thomas_> stati1, cat /var/log/Xorg....
[05:24] <cursor1> hi . can anyone help me i have an external hardrive problem in ubuntu
[05:24] <cmihai> leeyee: just make sure it's not zipped and always use the -man macros (groff -man) :-)
[05:24] <leeyee> cmihai: hehe, I just use TeX to write thesis
[05:24] <Zoffix> jenkins420, there is some preinstalled app for it. I forget the name, open your shell and type `avi` and shit tab key twice, I think that's how I found it.
[05:24] <stati1> thanks, thomas!
[05:24] <thomas_> kitche, how are the packets for gtk+ named
[05:24] <Pici> thomas_: libgtk2.0-0
[05:24] <jenkins420> Zoffix: thanks
[05:24] <pike_> cursor1: what is the problem?
[05:24] <thomas_> Pici, thx
[05:24] <Zoffix> jenkins420, it's `avisplit`
[05:24] <leeyee> cmihai: your tiny shell script works great!
[05:25] <cmihai> leeyee: thanks ;-)
[05:26] <giany911> ummm ... how can i make a shortcut in the application menu ?
[05:26] <banfrog> thanks guys :)
[05:26] <doron> hi, I messed with grubs vga=XXX option, now my tty appears smaller than the display (as if in a small window) even after omitting the vga=XXX its stuck this way
[05:26] <cursor1> pike_: the device isnt recorgnised at all
[05:26] <doron> help !! :(
[05:26] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[05:27] <cmihai> levander: you might be interested in grodvi(1) too. It converts groff to TeX dvi format.
[05:27] <Mariengs> por favor NECESITO UBUNTU ESPAOL
[05:27] <thomas_> Pici, but it doesn't work. i can't compile the demo gtk files it shows me a lot of errors
[05:27] <PriceChild> !es | Mariengs
[05:27] <ubotu> Mariengs: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:27] <kitche> thomas_: you n eed to install the -dev packages as well
[05:27] <Zoffix> Mariengs, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:27] <scope006> every time I do sudo vim /ext/X11/xorg.conf it tells me there is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.swp file and no matter how many times I open in with the recovery flag -r or how many times I try to delete it I cant get rid of that message.  any thoughts?
[05:27] <Pici> thomas_: you'll need the dev package then. libgtk2.0-dev
[05:27] <Mariengs> OK
[05:27] <Mariengs> MUY AMBLES
[05:28] <thomas_> Pici, i've already installed the package
[05:28] <vvapjimenezd> oloa
[05:28] <JimQode> scope006, try to delete the swap file manually
[05:28] <vvapjimenezd> ola
[05:28] <Mariengs> GRACIAS
[05:28] <kitche> scope006: it's how vim is setup do :set backup 0 to get rid of that in vim
[05:28] <thomas_> Pici, haven't made it better
[05:28] <scope006> Jim:  file or directory does not exist
[05:29] <JimQode> scope006, weird ...
[05:29] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[05:29] <thomas_> Pici, there's  a folder named gtk supposed to be in /usr/include
[05:29] <misty> I have Ubuntu server.  I need to install Oracle server and client on it, and for that I need a GUI (they run with Java)
[05:29] <misty> I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <thomas_> Pici, but there's only a folder named gtk2.0..... but with the header file of this folder it shows me lot of errors on compiling
[05:29] <scope006> lol i got rid of the swp file but my xorg.conf i now empty, lol
[05:29] <misty> now I can't log into X even though I can log into the command-line.  Is there a file I have to edit of users who are allowed to log into X?
[05:29] <scope006> oh what a monday
[05:30] <Pici> thomas_: is there a readme for the demos? perhaps that lists what packages are needed.
[05:30] <Dana1> gnome-setting-daemon is entirely missing on some Edgy system of mine.
[05:30] <bloodytux> ok... how do i install beryl?
[05:30] <Dana1> What package holds that binary?
[05:30] <Busata> is there anyway to boost the volume of my laptop? I got the feeling everything sounds more silent then it did in windows...
[05:30] <pinki> ola
[05:30] <PriceChild> !beryl | bloodytux
[05:30] <ubotu> bloodytux: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:30] <PriceChild> !es | pinki
[05:30] <ubotu> pinki: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:30] <Dana1> gnome-display-properties is also missing.
[05:30] <kitche> misty: no but root should not be allowed on X anyways just sounds like you either don't have kdm enabled or you just have to type startx to get into X if that's what you mean
[05:31] <thomas_> Pici, there are no readmes
[05:31] <pinki> k
[05:31] <misty> kdm is enabled, I'm staring at it
[05:31] <misty> I'm trying to log in as a non-root user
[05:31] <thomas_> Pici, #include <gtk/gtk.h> that's the include line
[05:31] <hall> chat italiana ubuntu????
[05:31] <PriceChild> !it | hall
[05:31] <ubotu> hall: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:31] <kitche> misty: ok then you should be able to login fine then what's the error you are getting
[05:31] <hall> thx
[05:31] <misty> 'login failed'
[05:31] <misty> with the same username and password that works at the CLI
[05:31] <thomas_> Pici, but it doesn't work because there's no header named like this
[05:32] <thomas_> Pici, I'm out of ideas
[05:32] <Dana1> It's >, not |
[05:32] <kitche> misty: ok then it has nothing to do with X then most likely check your Xorg.0.log but it seems to be a pam issue
[05:32] <misty> hmm
[05:32] <misty> does pam use a different file for logging into X?
[05:32] <pike_> misty: df -h and check disk space also maybe ls -R ~ | grep root and make sure ownership is intact
[05:33] <misty> disk space is fine
[05:33] <misty> what are you saying root should own?
[05:33] <pike_> misty: nothing
[05:33] <Pici> thomas_: let me check something, hold on
[05:33] <vladuz976> how can I get some kind of os x like launcher in GNOME?
[05:33] <thomas_> Pici, yep
[05:33] <KarlJohan> Hi when i use Ubuntu  i can see my wireless network and connect to it but i cant get any internet connection, i have a d-link g520, anybody tried the same?
[05:34] <Pici> thomas_: libgtk1.2-dev and libgtk2.0-dev are the only two packages that include a file named gtk.h
[05:34] <giany911> ummm ... how can i make a shortcut in the application menu ?
[05:34] <pike_> KarlJohan: can you connect to a wireless network and pastebin the output or 'route' command?
[05:34] <pike_> KarlJohan: i wouldnt think that would be an issue in ubuntu though
[05:34] <scope006> Got it guys thnx
[05:34] <Dana1> Is there an easy way to go through a system and force it to reinstall every package that is installed?
[05:34] <scope006> thank God for backups
[05:34] <thomas_> Pici, wait a second i will try the 1.2 dev package
[05:35] <kitche> KarlJohan: are you sure you have no internet try ping -c 3 64.233.167.99
[05:35] <misty> yes it's a pam issue, pam.d/kdm is weird on ubuntu server
[05:35] <pike_> Dana1: you could pipe it to xargs :)
[05:36] <misty> I will compare it to a kubuntu system
[05:36] <The_Machine> i just upgraded my nvidia driver (kubuntu released) and everything feels "slower".  Any suggestions?   Graphics related things - Even if i shut beryl off, etc. and i'm using Kwin.  Everything's dragging..
[05:36] <kitche> misty: well they are the same system really just the kernel is different and such since all of the k/x/ubuntu's use the same repos
[05:36] <giany911> ummm ... how can i make a shortcut in the application menu ?
[05:37] <thomas_> Pici, very strange
[05:37] <kitche> giany911: alacarte
[05:37] <misty> kitche: I realize that...
[05:37] <misty> but I think the kdm pam file is more restrictive on ubuntu server
[05:37] <thomas_> Pici, if i try to include the gtk.h from the other folders it shows me several errors
[05:38] <RabidWeezle_> MenZa!!!
[05:38] <RabidWeezle_> wake up!
[05:38] <jenkins420> Zoffix: I'm having some problems with avisplit, do you know it fairly well?
[05:38] <RabidWeezle> oops, wrong channel lol
[05:38] <Pici> thomas_: I'm not sure what to tell you,
[05:38] <Zoffix> jenkins420, not really. Used it once. Just read the man page
[05:38] <thomas_> Pici, do you have a /usr/include/gtk/ folder ?
[05:39] <jenkins420> I have/am.  thanks though
[05:39] <thomas_> Pici, maybe I should compile it myself
[05:39] <Pici> thomas_: no, I dont.
[05:39] <Pici> thomas_: btw, what kind of errors are you getting?
[05:39] <vox754> !away > Wyk-away
[05:40] <thomas_> Pici, a lot of file unknown errors and of course unknown data types
[05:40] <Pici> thomas_: Do you have build-essential installed?
[05:40] <thomas_> Pici, i guess so
[05:41] <Pici> thomas_: are you sure?
[05:41] <thomas_> Pici, give me a second to check it
[05:41] <gumpish> Where are the files written to by the Preferences -> Sessions applet?
[05:41] <metbsd> how do i install pidgin?
[05:42] <thomas_> Pici, it's installed now but it doesn't change nothing at all
[05:42] <kitche> !pidgin | metbsd
[05:42] <ubotu> metbsd: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[05:43] <Pici> thomas_: I'm not sure what to tell you, sorry.
[05:43] <kitche> metbsd: seems to be compile it or find a 3rd party package of it
[05:43] <metbsd> dam it
[05:43] <metbsd> why is it not in
[05:43] <Stwange> is there a way to make the DEL button have a confirmation messages, or an undelete?
[05:43] <spencer> i need some help partitioning
[05:43] <thomas_> Pici, hmm okay probably i have to compile it myself
[05:44] <Mark__> i need help
[05:44] <spencer> i am trying to reformat a drive to fat32
[05:44] <Dana1> aah, I figured my thing out:
[05:44] <spencer> and i am using gparted
[05:44] <Murdoch> I need help upgrading glib
[05:44] <thomas_> kitche, do you know how to get gtk+ running
[05:44] <Mark__> im trying to install windows using a Toshiba Recovery disk
[05:44] <spencer> but everytime i apply the formatting it remounts the drive
[05:44] <Murdoch> how do you upgrade using the source
[05:44] <Dana1> sudo aptitude reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1`
[05:44] <spencer> and then i get an error because it is mounted
[05:44] <Dana1> that's how I'll reinstall everyrtthing
[05:45] <kitche> thomas_: I only use QT myself
[05:45] <Murdoch> I did ./configure and make and make install but pkg-config picks up the old glib as well as the /usr/lib is still linked with the old lib's
[05:45] <spencer> does anyone know how i can keep my drive from remounting itself?
[05:45] <newuser01> spencer: i had the same problem, but when i restarted, all partitions were in their rightful places and worked ok..
[05:45] <Murdoch> remove it from /etc/fstab
[05:45] <thomas_> kitche, have you compiled QT yourself or have you installed it over the ubuntu repositories
[05:45] <drdub> is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[05:46] <kitche> thomas_: compiled it wanted qt4
[05:46] <spencer> the drive is not in fstab
[05:46] <jrib> drdub: set one in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[05:46] <selinuxium_> hi there all, anyone had any experience at connecting to a Novell vpn?
[05:46] <thomas_> kitche, maybe i also have to compile it myself. the packets of the repos namely don't work
[05:47] <Adriano> drdub: try ctrl alt t first
[05:47] <spencer> any other reason that it would keep remounting?
[05:47] <Adriano> drdub: but I think you have to set it
[05:47] <drdub> thanx
[05:49] <jrib> flo|linux: don't do that
[05:49] <jussi01> grrr
[05:49] <Stwange> I keep accidentally deleting files, is there a way to make the DEL button have a confirmation messages, or an undelete?
[05:50] <sarthor> Hi.. i am using ubuntu fiesty. How to install htb tool for bandwidth shaping???
[05:50] <Pici> Stwange: if you are using gnome, they should go into the trash.
[05:50] <selinuxium_> Stwange: files should go into your trash bin
[05:50] <Some_Person> Why won't Ubuntu let me apply a GTK+1 theme (for GTK+1 programs)?
[05:50] <Stwange> they don't, I think they do if i right click and delete, but if hit the DEL button, they don't
[05:50] <Some_Person> I keep getting "segmentation fault"
[05:50] <nivekc1> hey guys i have a windows xp machine that is running pc 133 memory therefore has a tough time running the live cd can i install ubuntu with the HDD in another PC and then put it back in there?
[05:50] <metbsd> is there realplayer
[05:50] <metbsd> for ubuntu
[05:50] <Some_Person> metbsd: yes
[05:50] <metbsd> how do i install it?
[05:51] <Adriano> nivekc1: the question is how much mem does it have
[05:51] <bandobras> Hallo
[05:51] <kitche> metbsd: yes either realplayer or helix-player
[05:51] <nivekc1> 512MB
[05:51] <nivekc1> 20 GB HDD
[05:51] <Adriano> nivekc1: ubuntu requires at least 192, 512 should be more than enough
[05:51] <nivekc1> 1.8 GB athlon
[05:51] <Some_Person> why is realplayer not in the repos?
[05:51] <Adriano> I don't think the memory is the problem
[05:51] <Toma-> Some_Person: because its terrible
[05:52] <nivekc1> well the live cd loads just very slow
[05:52] <bandobras> hab gehrt die ubuntuleute sind sehr hilfsbereit...ich wrd das gern mal ausprobieren ;) mchte jetzt ubuntu neben vista installieren.
[05:52] <kitche> Some_Person: well it is really helix-player
[05:52] <Pici> !de | bandobras
[05:52] <ubotu> bandobras: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:52] <kitche> Some_Person: i's most liekly because it's commerical
[05:52] <bandobras> thsx
[05:52] <nivekc1> also i was thinking about running ubuntu studio and its MOBO does not have the capability to boot from DVD
[05:52] <Some_Person> !fstab
[05:52] <Dana1> duuuuude, it's !something > person, not !something | person.
[05:52] <Some_Person> ubotu sources
[05:52] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:52] <Dana1> Person is not a command.
[05:52] <bloodytux> is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.*.*-386, linux-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 required to run linux or are they dummys?
[05:53] <nivekc1> so it is ok to load ubuntu on te HDD in another PC??
[05:53] <kitche> Dana1: umm | is a pipe
[05:53] <bloodytux> i'm trying to install beryl and it says to uninstall nvidia-kernel-common and it wants to uninstall thos
[05:55] <ultralord> Hello to everybody.
[05:55] <nivekc1> ubuntu will think that all of my 2nd pcs hardware it what it should be running so will it make the transition into another machine?
[05:55] <sel> bloodytux: beryl needs AIGLX etc - your system is trying to install the nvidia binary driver to alow that
[05:55] <bloodytux> yea but is the linux-restricted-modules required?
[05:55] <kitche> nivekc1: yes linux is very moveable if the kernel has everything in it or modules
[05:55] <bloodytux> and all that other stuff
[05:56] <sel> yes if you want it from the repos no if you go get it from nvidia
[05:56] <nivekc1> ok thanks
[05:56] <bloodytux> ?
[05:56] <ultralord> I have ATI radeon x600, and I have myself impossible to form Beryl. In addition I have it with two screens.
[05:56] <DanaG> Linux is far more movable than Windows is.
[05:57] <KarlJohan> Kitche: im very sure,
[05:57] <sel> bloodytux: if you want to get your nvidia driver the 'Ubuntu way' you need the modules you mention
[05:58] <kitche> KarlJohan: did you try the ping command to see if you can get out using IP
[05:58] <aa^way> heyy why i cant install php5 and apache2 on linux?
[05:58] <bloodytux> sel: i'm following this tut http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty and it says to download the drivers from Nvidia
[05:58] <huyth> how do I make Rutilt autostart?
[05:59] <aa^way> here is my pastebin http://pastebin.ca/600008
[05:59] <doron> hi, my tty screen (Ctrl+Alt+Fx) appears smaller than my screen, how can I change the resolution ?
[05:59] <bloodytux> sel: i just want to make sure i'm not going to crash my computer
[06:00] <Fuzz> hi, how do i upgrade my wine to 0.9.40? i have wine-0.9.40.tar.bz2 file
[06:00] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[06:00] <metbsd> helix-player does not play this rmvb file
[06:00] <metbsd> Me2resh: it''ll only work in windows
[06:00] <KarlJohan> kitche: please send the command again im new to ubuntu got it from my older brother.
[06:00] <sel> bloodytux: If I were you I'd try just getting beryl first then upgrade to the nvidia newest drivers later
[06:00] <bloodytux> sel: k
[06:01] <kitche> KarlJohan: ping -c 64.233.167.99
[06:01] <Me2resh> metbsd, so i cant use headphone on linux ?
[06:01] <kitche> KarlJohan: after the -c put a 3 so it would look like -c 3
[06:01] <sel> bloodytux: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.29
[06:01] <bloodytux> sel:do i need ailgx or xgl?
[06:01] <metbsd> Me2resh: i don't know, you can ask around
[06:01] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[06:01] <DarkED> http://darked.toddkleinert.com/mg/index.php?id=719 <-- any way to hide the panel handles or make them transparent?
[06:02] <sel> you don't need to woy about that with nvidia
[06:02] <KarlJohan> kitche: you mean :       ping -c 364.233.167.99
[06:02] <sel> it'll select AIGLX automatically IIRC
[06:02] <kitche> KarlJohan: space between 3 and the 6
[06:02] <KarlJohan> okay
[06:03] <Albaraha> Is there a linux driver of Linksys wireless USB adapter?
[06:03] <[selfsearcher] > hi
[06:04] <brasko> hi, when I run an executable built from redhat 7.1 on the newest ubuntu, I get "No such file or directly", I've never seen that before, any ideas?
[06:04] <[selfsearcher] > i need to know: i want to install a different version of GNOME but i want to have the choice to choose between the two versions, via the menu
[06:05] <Billy> I am trying to run www.pbskids.org for my kids.. but it requires flash player and shockwave... I am having a hard time installing them.  Could some one instruct me in how to do this?
[06:05] <amicrawler> hey guys how do i scan to see what is in my lan ?
[06:05] <kitche> brasko: hmm why would you run a binary from redhat 7.1 on ubuntu they aren't even compatible but anyways your running the binary wrong most likely
[06:05] <ultralord> selfsearcher, use qemu, for example. A tutorial is in http://www.vicosoft.org/blog/
[06:06] <Surb> I'm using a second HDD, but it's currently owned by root.  How can I change the owner to me, and how can I get it to mount when I boot up?
[06:06] <brasko> kitche: why aren't the compatible? BTW, I'm not running it wrong, I'm sure of it.
[06:06] <KarlJohan> kitche: it says From 169.254.9.62 icmp_seq3 Destination Host Unreachable       ------  64.233.167.99 ping statistics -----         3 packets transmitted, 0 recieved, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms, pipe 3
[06:06] <jrib> Billy: flash is in multiverse (the bot will send you instructions).  Adobe does not provide shockwave for linux, so the only way to get it is to install firefox with flash in wine
[06:06] <jrib> !flash > Billy (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:06] <jrib> !shockwave > Billy (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:06] <brasko> kitche: I've used unix for 10+ years, and by this point, know how to run an executable
[06:06] <kitche> KarlJohan: ok then it's most likey your route is setup wrong or the router is blocking it
[06:06] <kitche> brasko: umm different libc versions
[06:06] <[selfsearcher] > i need to know: i want to install a different version of GNOME but i want to have the choice to choose between the two versions, via the menu
[06:06] <brasko> kitche: that's what I was wondering
[06:07] <doron> hi, my tty screen (Ctrl+Alt+Fx) appears smaller than my screen, how can I change the resolution ?
[06:07] <brasko> kitche: the libc libraries aren't guarenteed to be backwards compatible?
[06:07] <kitche> brasko: but if it says no file or directory found then you are running the binary wrong
[06:07] <brasko> haha, NO!
[06:07] <brasko> I know how to run it!
[06:07] <KarlJohan> kitche, why should the router blocking it i use wireless on two other computers and one of them is using Ubuntu
[06:07] <Hoppimike> hi everyone!
[06:07] <brasko> kitche: In fact, I compile a hello world on redhat, copy it to ubuntu, run it, and get the message
[06:08] <brasko> I myself was surprised with the 'no such file or directly"
[06:08] <Hoppimike> i have one little question =)
[06:08] <ultralord> Hi Hoppimike. http://www.manchegox.org
[06:08] <Hoppimike> does anyone know the best way to fix grub? I spoilt the MBR and I wanted to try to fix it from the ubuntu 7.04 CD
[06:08] <kitche> brasko: well considering that redhat 7.1 uses libc and not glibc
[06:09] <Busata> !grub | Hoppimike
[06:09] <ubotu> Hoppimike: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:09] <tompeach> Hello folks, I have a problem with Ubuntu feisty server and software raid 5, the raid seems really unstable. Partitions keep dropping out even thought they are good. I don't know where to even start to troubleshoot it. Any advice?
[06:09] <Hoppimike> cool thanks!
[06:09] <Stwange> How do I change the login screen? Sad question, but I've seen one with a penguin and "Welcome to Ubuntu", is that just the different DE?
[06:09] <kitche> brasko: hmm it does use glibc it seems :)
[06:09] <brasko> kitche: If I vi the executalbe, it has a mention to /lib/ld-linux.so.2, but that doesn't exist in ubuntu
[06:10] <Zoffix> bionoid, I fixed my drive :D what I did is changed "feisty" to "gutsy" in the first two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list; Then upgraded my system and it is working now :)
[06:10] <brasko> kitche: and if I do 'ldd -v main.exe' it says, 'statically linked'
[06:10] <erUSUL> Stwange: System>Admin>Login Screen ??
[06:10] <Stwange> sorry I should have looked for that. Thanks
[06:11] <brasko> kitche: 'ldd -v main.exe' on the redhat 7.1 system says 'libc6.so.6 and lib/ld-linux.so.2'
[06:11] <[selfsearcher] > How can i install another version of GNOME mantaining my old version (i need to choose this one or the other)
[06:11] <brasko> kitche: any idea why copying that to ubuntu would make it think it's statically linked?
[06:11] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[06:11] <pike_> Zoffix: be careful of the automatic updates in gutsy ;)
[06:11] <Zoffix> pike_, yeah :) at least my drive is working :)
[06:11] <languita> ola
[06:11] <Zoffix> !es > languita
[06:12] <tompeach> RemoteViewer: RAID 5 do you think i'd be better to give up on ubuntu and try zfs on solaris 10? (no arseyness intended)
[06:12] <sarthor> Hi.. i am using ubuntu fiesty. How to install htb tool for bandwidth shaping???
[06:12] <sarthor> Hi.. i am using ubuntu fiesty. How to install htb tool for bandwidth shaping???
[06:13] <sarthor> pasting again after 2 hrs waiting.
[06:13] <sarthor> no one replied..
[06:13] <kitche> !repeat | sarthor
[06:13] <ubotu> sarthor: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:13] <languita> abladme en espaol
[06:13] <Busata> !es
[06:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <sarthor> kitche, then what to do??
[06:13] <[selfsearcher] > How can i install another version of GNOME mantaining my old version?
[06:14] <incorrect> which is the best vpn app for linux?
[06:14] <IceLink> Hi. Can anyone tell me where I can find the file including the sources? I mean the file which automatix is writing crap in when using it
[06:14] <Pici> !automatix | IceLink
[06:14] <ubotu> IceLink: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:15] <Pici> IceLink: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <beni_> Hey guys, where can I find new Gnome Login Screens or Ubuntu Icon Sets? Is there a page like stylexp.com? TIA!
[06:15] <IceLink> ghanks
[06:15] <Pici> !themes | beni_
[06:15] <ubotu> beni_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:15] <beni_> Pici: thank you
[06:15] <Pici> beni_: sure :)
[06:15] <kitche> sarthor: compile it yourself
[06:15] <kitche> sarthor: http://sourceforge.net/projects/htbinit/
[06:16] <[selfsearcher] > IceLink: just install what you need. Automatix doesn't work for us all...
[06:16] <IceLink> i won't use it any time
[06:16] <IceLink> but i
[06:16] <IceLink> 've got a problem and it might be that automatix is the root
[06:16] <sarthor> kitche, thank you.
[06:17] <troopperi_> !automatix | Icelink
[06:17] <ubotu> Icelink: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:17] <kitche> troopperi_: he doesn't need to be spammed with that you know
[06:17] <IceLink> i want to install KVIrc, the newst version is just available as a deb-file which depends on some things which i already have but the version is too low. But Synaptic doesn't show me a better version
[06:18] <troopperi_> kitche: i just entered my pc...sorry..lol
[06:19] <IceLink> has anybody got an idea?
[06:19] <erUSUL> !latest
[06:19] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:20] <Busata> I'm the latest version of myself atm, I'm doing pretty ok
[06:21] <IceLink> erUSUL, if you're meaning me: if the program i wanna use expects it, so i do have to have the latest. if you're not, just forget it^^
[06:21] <pike_> IceLink: you can install the libs if you can find them it wont mess anything up really to have multiple lib versions. i guess youd either have to google for some deb packages for em or just grab em from the project website. you could try just making a link to them to make the app think they are there.. like sudo ln -s /usr/lib/somelib /usr/lib/somelibnewername .. i dunno
[06:21] <p47> hello Does anyone knows the way to know what program were installe in my ubuntu ?
[06:21] <p47> hello Does anyone knows the way to know what program were installe in my ubuntu ?
[06:22] <kitche> !repeat | p47
[06:22] <ubotu> p47: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:22] <kitche> p37: dpkg -l
[06:22] <Hoppimike> haha i did it!! i did it!! my laptop works =)
[06:22] <Hoppimike> thanks ubotu! lol
[06:22] <IceLink> pike_ ah i'm hating this complex things >.< why can't it just be easily installed?
[06:22] <Hoppimike> I'll come on here later and help other people to say thank you =)
[06:23] <beni_> Hoppimike: You're Leenux, dude )
[06:23] <beni_> :)
[06:23] <sarthor> kitche, thank you.
[06:23] <Hoppimike> ^_^
[06:24] <Hoppimike> later dudes and dudettes!
[06:24] <erUSUL> IceLink: what the latest version of kvirc has that the one shipping with feisty do not?
[06:24] <darwin81> The LiveCD always boots to a different resolution on the same machine.
[06:24] <carlosgasa> carlos
[06:24] <Stwange> if I reboot into windows, and use partition magic to extend the linux partition, will this cause problems when I reboot into linux?
[06:25] <carlosgasa> ola
[06:25] <IceLink> erUSUL: i don't have feisty but dapper. Well, winamp-support (although i don't think that there's winamp for linux)
[06:25] <erUSUL> "es | carlosgasa
[06:25] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[06:25] <erUSUL> !es | carlosgasa
[06:25] <ubotu> carlosgasa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:25] <erUSUL> IceLink: you are right no winamp in linux
[06:26] <erUSUL> !players | IceLink
[06:26] <ubotu> IceLink: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:26] <pike_> Stwange: partition magic usually works. the ubuntu version of this would be gparted
[06:26] <pike_> Stwange: you could use gparted from the livecd
[06:26] <Stwange> ok thanks :)
[06:27] <carlosgasa> kien sabe hablar in soainhis
[06:27] <IceLink> erUSUL, you make the impression of being a bot aself
[06:27] <IceLink> +y
[06:27] <IceLink> oh
[06:27] <IceLink> sory
[06:28] <carlosgasa> hello prot
[06:28] <IceLink> erUSUL, well, it doesn't help, i don't have any version of KVIrc now
[06:28] <beni_> Desktop Widgets on ubuntu, only possible with gdesklets?
[06:28] <carlosgasa> guadalinex v4
[06:29] <dromer> hi all, I installed qemu, but every time I try to run it it says: ould not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated  and it runs tediously slow, how can I activate kqemu?
[06:29] <carlosgasa> yo conozco ha tu puta
[06:29] <carlosgasa> madre
[06:29] <carlosgasa> mmm
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> mm
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <kitche> dromer: install it
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <kitche> !ops
[06:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <dromer> kitche: it is installed afaik
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <carlosgasa> m
[06:29] <tech_> for some reson i cannot get ssh to work on the 6.10 TLS verson
[06:29] <rambo3> !qmeu
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmeu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <rambo3> !qem
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <dromer> !qemu
[06:30] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:30] <rambo3> dromer, installl qemu-launcher
[06:30] <tech_> i can ssh in on local host
[06:30] <tech_> its a VMware system
[06:31] <pike_> tech_: you cant ssh to it from the host machine or from other machines on the network?
[06:31] <tech_> host, but i can ssh to other boxes from the host
[06:32] <dromer> rambo3: what do I do with that? I already have it ,, and can't activate kqemu in there ..
[06:32] <tech_> no on there boxes on the network as well
[06:32] <kitche> tech_: well vmware gives the machine it's own ip also if you have it setup that way but without openssh-sever installed then you can't ssh into the vmware machine
[06:32] <Billy> how can I automaticly get in to the ubotu chat when I logon to the IRC server?
[06:33] <tech_> right i can ssh localhost, works, it has an extreal IPaddress
[06:33] <kitche> Billy: depends on the client
[06:34] <Billy> Kitche: thank you
[06:34] <pike_> tech_: i know this would be straight forward if nat'd but then youd have an issue with other machines on the network.. id /join #vmware and ask em
[06:34] <tech_> but, from the hostbox or from an exteranl box ssh dust dies (like a firewall issue)
[06:34] <johnficca1> how do I decode a bin/cue movie file without burn it on to cd?
[06:34] <oggy> -hr
[06:34] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[06:35] <aa^way> heyy why i cant install php5 and apache2 on linux?
[06:35] <aa^way> here is my pastebin http://pastebin.ca/600008
[06:36] <Ubiratan> nossa
[06:36] <izN> HOIAEHHAEIOAE
[06:36] <izN> faz o echo a
[06:36] <dromer> rambo3, kitche: I think I got it to work .. hopefully it'll get loaded on boot in the future
[06:36] <kitche> johnficca1: this should give you your answer http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion
[06:36] <Ubiratan> hello niggas
[06:37] <Billy> I am using XChat-GNOME IRC Chat,  How do I set it to automaticly put me in to #ubuntu, #ubuntu-effects, and Ubotu?
[06:38] <hall> #ubuntu-it
[06:38] <tech_> pike_ the network connection is briged
[06:38] <kitche> Billy: well Ubotu you have to message for the window to open
[06:39] <mariamar> ola
[06:39] <madman91> if I mount two samba shares (from one computer).. and i rsync FIRSTSHARE SECONDSHARE from my computer.. will it write from FIRSTSHARE to my computer then to SECONDSHARE or from FIRST to SECOND on the local computer ?
[06:40] <madman91> anyone?
[06:40] <izjuancarlos> ola
[06:42] <sunew_> hi all, i have run in to the "sudo timestamp too far in the future" thing - i'm on a feisty server install, and neither sudo -k, -K, -v works for me - any clues ?
[06:42] <rambo3> did you reboot ?
[06:42] <sunew_> i cant i need sudo to do that i gues (?)
[06:42] <PriceChild> sunew_, i know this... one second
[06:43] <PriceChild> sunew_, gksudo "sudo -K"
[06:43] <sunew_> PriceChild: well i'm on a server install - no gui
[06:43] <rambo3> sudo "sudo -K" ?
[06:43] <PriceChild> rambo3, no....
[06:44] <sunew_> rambo3: same problem
[06:44] <sunew_> anyway to restart without sudo?
[06:44] <Billy> su - root
[06:44] <starz> sunew_, yeah
[06:44] <starz> o server commandline
[06:45] <johnficca1> how do I convert an ISO movie file to to say a avi movie?
[06:45] <sunew_> the root is not enabled
[06:45] <starz> sunew_, mm
[06:45] <starz> what precipatated this btw
[06:46] <sunew_> starz: i changed the time with sudo date
[06:46] <sunew_> hehe - silly problem
[06:46] <sunew_> but its giving me a lot of grey hairs
[06:46] <Adriano> johnficca1: there are no ISO movie formats
[06:47] <limejuice> right, what is ISO format?
[06:47] <rambo3> !iso
[06:47] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:47] <limejuice> you might have dd the CDROM
[06:47] <Adriano> johnficca1: iso is the format that (many) cds are recorded in, but not only movies
[06:47] <limejuice> right
[06:47] <blargas> could anyone help me out with some dual display issues?
[06:47] <johnficca1> yeah it was a bin/cue then I converted it to iso with the program bin2iso now its an iso
[06:47] <IceLink> very simple, just wanna know how to get this list of disks, something like lgrep or so
[06:48] <limejuice> fdisk -l
[06:48] <IceLink> ah okay thanks
[06:48] <johnficca1> I want to watch the movie but I don't want to burn a cd
[06:48] <madman91> hey guys.. is it possible to remotely login to a windows box and use my linux commands to do backups and etc.. without using cygwin?
[06:48] <Adriano> johnficca1 : well, mount it somewhere (I think doubleclicking it will do) and check
[06:48] <sunew_> yeah - ctrl-alt-delete rebooted. now i can get in via grub recovery mode
[06:48] <llllllll> Where does the 'wget' terminal command store the packages I download?
[06:48] <PriceChild> llllllll, current directory
[06:49] <metbsd> maddler, what about vnc?
[06:49] <IceLink> euh... which parameter to get the partitions @ limejuice
[06:49] <blargas> john: you can use VLC to watch the ISO movie
[06:49] <llllllll> PriceChild: current directory?
[06:49] <madman91> metbsd: i cant use by commands
[06:49] <PriceChild> llllllll, yes
[06:49] <starz> sunew_, and you wernt in a sudo session
[06:49] <johnficca1> blargas: cool
[06:49] <madman91> metbsd: "my"*
[06:49] <starz> or did you do another sudo immediately after
[06:49] <Adriano> llllllll the directory in which you ran wget
[06:49] <limejuice> df
[06:49] <llllllll> Ah, thanks
[06:49] <hans> hi, i just recently installed ubuntu, but can't get dual boot to work; I posted my problem on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490152, but didn't get any replies, is there anybody here who can help?
[06:49] <limejuice> or even  mount will do
[06:50] <limejuice> what is the problem @hans
[06:50] <sunew_> starz: when changing time? i sudo'ed the date command, if thats what you mean
[06:50] <starz> well
[06:50] <starz> you sudo'd the date command
[06:50] <starz> did you run another sudo within about 15 min of that
[06:55] <hans> limejuice: GRUB doesn't seem to load, the laptop will boot into ubuntu directly
[06:55] <starz> or did you let your sudo timeout
[06:55] <IceLink> ahm. somehow it doens't work limejuice^^ just get  sdf1
[06:55] <rambo3> hans, paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst  on pastebin
[06:55] <sunew_> starz: problem started right after that - sudo checks the date, and now the sudo date was to far in future - there should be some way of forcing sudo to ask for pw (that should be -v but it gave me same message)
[06:55] <hans> sure
[06:55] <llllllll> So if I haven't specified a directory, wget is putting the package straight in the 'root' of the filesystem?
[06:55] <n1ob> asdf
[06:55] <banfrog> hello all, just wondering how i can bridge a ppp0 connection with a NIC
[06:55] <sunew_> starz: anyway i've rebooted and are in recovery now, so i can remove the sudo date file
[06:55] <limejuice> see timeout option
[06:55] <IceLink> how do i unmount? i mountet by ubuntu disk in my ubuntu disk -.-
[06:55] <starz> sunew_, was it a remote server or local one?
[06:55] <pike_> llllllll: it will place it in the directory it was launched from i think
[06:55] <sunew_> starz: local
[06:55] <sunew_> lucky mee
[06:55] <starz> ah
[06:55] <JiffaJaffa> Whats the command to list all folders inside a directory/
[06:55] <starz> your lucky
[06:55] <starz> i did that on a remote on
[06:55] <starz> one**
[06:55] <starz> im in los angeles it was in germany
[06:55] <starz> lol
[06:55] <sunew_> starz: yes thats a problem :D
[06:55] <starz> but one of the first things i do do is set a root pass
[06:55] <starz> :>
[06:55] <starz> i know i know...
[06:55] <starz> but i do it.
[06:55] <sunew_> starz i will do that :)
[06:55] <starz> sunew_, if its local dont bother
[06:55] <starz> remote i would tho
[06:55] <sunew_> starz: okay
[06:55] <starz> and make sure you use something hardcore like 20-30 digits alphanumeric
[06:55] <starz> like a torrent hash or something
[06:55] <pike_> JiffaJaffa: there might be a better way but i normally ls -l directory| grep drw
[06:55] <sunew_> starz: yeah
[06:55] <jrib> JiffaJaffa: recursively or just one level?
[06:55] <starz> k
[06:55] <RichW> is 700 the best chmod for a home directory?
[06:55] <dr_willis> best as in 'most secure' ?
[06:55] <RichW> yes
[06:55] <jrib> pike_, JiffaJaffa: you could do 'ls -F | grep /' or use 'find -type d'.  If you are in zsh, you could do ls -d *(/)
[06:55] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 50 willis willis    Vs  drwxr-----  :)   If you are worried aout others reading your home dir.. Id guess so,
[06:55] <dr_willis> oops too many r;s
[06:55] <starz> wtf
[06:55] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[06:55] <starz> ah dr_willis "sudo timestamp too far in the future"
[06:55] <starz> awtawer2354
[06:55] <starz> dr_willis, http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/118181   <<--- read that
[06:55] <dr_willis> starz,  system clock is off.
[06:56] <starz> dr_willis, eh?
[06:56] <dr_willis> When my system clock was set wayyyyyyyyyyyy ahead . i got that sort of error befor.
[06:56] <starz> well
[06:56] <dr_willis> Not sure why else it would show up.
[06:56] <Some_Person> Whatever happened to the PLF repository?
[06:57] <starz> what i do is have ntp adjust system clock
[06:57] <IceLink> i'm despairing
[06:57] <jrib> !plf > Some_Person (see the private message from ubotu)
[06:57] <IceLink> i want to mount my windows disk but i cannot find it
[06:57] <dr_willis> Some_Person,  I think it shut down the ubuntu part. due to lack of a maintainer. but aint checkd in it in ages.
[06:57] <starz> Me2resh, ok lets see what we can do
[06:57] <hans> @rambo3: I pasted my menu.lst on pastebin, under hans
[06:57] <dr_willis> !plf > dr_willis
[06:57] <rambo3> hans, link ?
[06:57] <Me2resh> starz, thanks, i am waiting :)
[06:57] <Some_Person> There appears to be none for Ubuntu, only Mandriva
[06:58] <hans> http://pastebin.com/940678
[06:58] <jrib> Some_Person: medibuntu has ubuntu repos
[06:58] <dr_willis> Some_Person,   with the severas and mediatubuntu repos.. I dont see much need for plf :)
[06:58] <dr_willis> but its always nice to have alternatives
[06:58] <Some_Person> severas?
[06:58] <Some_Person> i have the medibuntu repos, has a lot less than plf did
[06:58] <PriceChild> dr_willis, Some_Person seveas
[06:59] <starz> IceLink, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:59] <jrib> Some_Person: what doesn't it have?
[06:59] <starz> adjust for hdd placement
[06:59] <starz> or if its sda instead of hda you can check with df -h
[06:59] <IceLink> starz: nohing.
[06:59] <tck> what driver is used for USB hard drives?
[06:59] <starz> ice pastebin your df -h and your /etc/fstab
[06:59] <erUSUL> tck: usb-storage mainly
[07:00] <langezwieper> hi
[07:00] <tck> erUSUL, thank you
[07:00] <hans> rambo3, saw my link?
[07:00] <rambo3> hans, too slow
[07:00] <langezwieper> when i login my screen is just white... i already reconfigured my xorg.conf
[07:00] <langezwieper> what can i do next
[07:00] <starz> Me2resh, what kind of laptop do you have
[07:00] <hans> rambo3, what do you mean?
[07:00] <starz> langezwieper, you have beryl in?
[07:00] <hans> rambo3, shall I post the link again?
[07:00] <starz> xgl beryl specifically?
[07:00] <langezwieper> yes
[07:01] <starz> ah
[07:01] <rambo3> hans, paste here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:01] <starz> what hardware do you have
[07:01] <Me2resh> starz, Asus M6B00V
[07:01] <langezwieper> everything worked fine until i installed Glx or something this morning
[07:01] <ZeZu> how can i remove ooffice from CLI ?
[07:01] <ksivaji>  i created one ext3 partition  and it is mounted   but i cant write in that as a subuser (sivaji)  only root can r/w  now what option should i select "default or sw or rw" to make it r/w
[07:01] <Pici> ZeZu: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
[07:01] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  make a directory on the partition, chown, and chmod that directory and let the user have access to that.
[07:01] <hans> rambo3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28239
[07:01] <ZeZu> thanks
[07:02] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  thats how i always do it.  so i got a drive, with 1 partition, and in that 1 parittion. one dir. owned by that user.
[07:02] <langezwieper> starz what can i do to fix the pb?
[07:02] <ksivaji> dr_willis ok let me try
[07:02] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  then i link that directory to the users /home/username/Extrastorage :)
[07:02] <Ind[y] > Suddenly, everything became very slow, but I have a brand new machine. What has happened (it has happend in the past, and the only fix was format)?
[07:03] <ZeZu> that didn't work, its still avail and opening ;|
[07:03] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  you cxan proberly let the user have full permission to the drive some how, but never figured out a nice way.. or why to evne worry about it. :) this way the user dosent see the lost+found dir either
[07:03] <starz> langezwieper, well first off
[07:03] <starz> ctrl+alt+1
[07:03] <starz> get into a console and find the guide you were following and do it backwards
[07:03] <starz> i e take it all out
[07:03] <starz> when its clean do it without xgl
[07:03] <starz> are you using an ati card?
[07:04] <arturo_on_rails> Hi guys, totally newbie to ubuntu (from Gentoo).  How do I see what services are started at startup?
[07:04] <IceLink> starz http://phpfi.com/246701
[07:04] <Ind[y] > Suddenly, everything became very slow (Terminal/Firefox/Home Folder take huge time to start), but I have a brand new machine. What has happened (it has happend in the past, and the only fix was format)?
[07:04] <langezwieper> starz no im using a nvidia 7800gtx, so ctrl alt 1 should that be done in terminal?
[07:04] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: system -> administration -> services
[07:04] <starz> Me2resh, im not sure what to do for ya there...
[07:04] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: command line.  I'm ssh'aching
[07:04] <ZeZu> seems like its part of "ubuntu-desktop"
[07:04] <Me2resh> starz,  :'(
[07:04] <rambo3> hans, it looks correct . i see no error there .
[07:04] <starz> langezwieper, go to terminal and do: sudo apt-get --purge remove beryl beryl-manager
[07:05] <langezwieper> k so i should return to my white desktop ?
[07:05] <langezwieper> k
[07:05] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: man update-rc.d   and checkout sysv-rc-conf
[07:05] <starz> then you can boot into gnome again
[07:05] <hans> rambo3, thanks. You know what else might be wrong?
[07:05] <starz> Me2resh, i just dont have the problem and while i see it on the net i see no fixes - means i just dont know enough about it. might wanna try #alsa
[07:05] <aarcane> Hi, I'm working on a an IBM T20 thinkpad, and trying to get 1024x768 resolution working, but the savage video card will only seem to admit that it can run at 800x600.  what can I try to get full resolution ?
[07:05] <langezwieper> k rebooting now :)
[07:05] <limejuice> @rambo3 but what about title  Other operating systems: root
[07:05] <starz> langezwieper, for your system you dont need to follow much guides
[07:06] <starz> just take out anything that you find in synaptic for beryl
[07:06] <arturo_on_rails> thx jrib
[07:06] <starz> and delete .beryl from your home directory
[07:06] <limejuice> there are no option for that root
[07:06] <Some_Person> I'm trying to throw RealPlayer on Ubuntu, but it's not in the repositories!
[07:06] <starz> and what os feisty? edgy?
[07:06] <starz> IceLink, ok looking now
[07:06] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: another question.  Where can I (should I!) save my iptables setup so it loads at startup?
[07:06] <rambo3> limejuice,hans  i didn't read it since he sad it autoboots into ubuntu . so i just checked timeout and hiddenmenu
[07:06] <starz> ah
[07:06] <Some_Person> My sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28241/
[07:06] <starz> IceLink, your in live cd
[07:07] <IceLink> means?
[07:07] <IceLink> h
[07:07] <IceLink> that can't be true
[07:07] <Ind[y] > Suddenly, every application take huge time to start. (I have a brand new machine.) Is this a known issue?
[07:07] <starz> mm
[07:07] <starz> wait
[07:07] <IceLink> i don't have this cd in my ...
[07:07] <dr_willis> Ind[y] ,  given how vague that is.. I doubt it. :)
[07:07] <langezwieper> starz, okay thank you, im using Feisty fawn 7.04 (im new to the scene lol)      hm i still end up in terminal ... should i reconfigure my xorg.conf now again?
[07:07] <limejuice> try removing that and grub-install
[07:07] <Ind[y] > dr_willis: sorry?
[07:07] <dr_willis> Ind[y] ,  could be a  dma not enabled issue.
[07:07] <IceLink> drive.
[07:08] <hans> limejuice, removing what? the "root" line?
[07:08] <dr_willis> Ind[y] ,  check the dmesg output for any errors as a start also.
[07:08] <limejuice> the empty root line
[07:08] <starz> IceLink, how big is that hard drive and how big is windows partition
[07:08] <pike_> Ind[y] : cat /etc/hosts  see if ya have a 127.0.0.1  localhost <hostname>  maybe also maybe
[07:08] <limejuice> line no : 147 and 148
[07:08] <starz> langezwieper, naw you can leave the crap in it
[07:08] <IceLink> if i remember correctly, 80GB and... hm... 40GB?
[07:08] <hans> limejuice, rambo3, i shall try that, thank you
[07:08] <Stwange> does anyone know how to use libnjb5? (Creative Zen Jukebox) - I've installed it but I can only find it in Synaptic
[07:09] <Ind[y] > dr_willis: But... suddenly? (how do I fix it?)
[07:09] <jrib> !iptables > arturo_on_rails (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:09] <Ominous> how can i get the extra 2 buttons working on my logitech mouse?
[07:09] <Ivis> hi help me plz i install beryl all work fine but i don't see windows decorations i use nvidia grpahic card
[07:09] <assasukasse> hi, i need to copy a windows cd, but when i try to do it, by making an image with brasero, the image comes out 850mb and i can't burn it...what can i do?
[07:09] <starz> langezwieper, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[07:09] <dr_willis> Ind[y] ,  if it just Started happening.. sounds like either the drive needs fscking, or you got somthing else causing the delays..or the drive is dieing.
[07:09] <jrib> !beryl > Ivis (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:10] <langezwieper> starz, okay thank you
[07:10] <Ivis> thx
[07:10] <starz> IceLink, sure you didnt wipe your windows?>
[07:10] <starz> np langezwieper lol
[07:10] <starz> it should be easy with nvidia
[07:10] <IceLink> wipe?
[07:10] <Some_Person> !multiverse
[07:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:10] <starz> make sure to take out ALL yer stuff tho
[07:10] <QwertyM> hey, can someone help me with my new 2.1 speakers? Ubuntu just refuses to give any sound o/p to it
[07:10] <starz> IceLink, ok let me back up
[07:10] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: thanks for your help.  update-rc.d only modifies the runlevels.  How can I show?
[07:10] <starz> you instaled ubuntu to hdd neh?
[07:10] <IceLink> actually, i didn't, starz
[07:10] <IceLink> yeah
[07:10] <IceLink> a long time ago
[07:10] <starz> that usb device?
[07:11] <starz> where is it now in the booting picture
[07:11] <starz> what are you booting from
[07:11] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: sysv-rc-conf is a nice ncurses way to do it, otherwise you can ls /etc/rc*.d
[07:11] <Some_Person> what repository is realplayer in?
[07:11] <IceLink> hard disk
[07:11] <IceLink> from grub
[07:11] <starz> ok. so its on the hard disk.
[07:12] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: and I take that the default runlevel is 6?
[07:12] <starz>   /dev/sda2              91G  7,1G   79G   9% /  <<---   /dev/sda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:12] <starz> see those two lines IceLink ?
[07:12] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: 2 and 2-5 are identical by default
[07:12] <IceLink> ya
[07:12] <starz> one from the fdisk and one from fstab?
[07:12] <lrolo> hola
[07:12] <CoffeeDaze> I have a newb question that I'm actually having a hard time finding in searches.  I recently installed Ubuntu 7 and can't change my screen resolution higher than 60Hz.  I know it can do 75Hz at 1280x1024 using my Nvidia 6200.  How can I change this?
[07:12] <starz> that means its a hundred gig drive or so etc and its formatted ext3
[07:12] <starz> when you installed to hdd did you let ubuntu pick all the partitions?
[07:12] <lrolo> holo
[07:12] <IceLink> hm. can't be
[07:13] <IceLink> i had one partition and ubuntu parted it
[07:13] <lrolo> espaola
[07:13] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: what you mean?  When I bootup, what is the default runlevel?  in my gentoo is 3
[07:13] <IceLink> afterwards, i reinstalled windows one time
[07:13] <jrib> !realplayer > Some_Person (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:13] <IceLink> and reinstalles grub
[07:13] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: it's 2 on ubuntu (and debian)
[07:13] <Ind[y] > dr_willis: http://pastebin.ca/600119
[07:13] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: thanks jrib
[07:13] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: type 'runlevel' ;)
[07:13] <starz> do this IceLink: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[07:13] <starz> paste that
[07:13] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: :p
[07:13] <starz> ^^
[07:14] <jrib> !upstart > arturo_on_rails (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:14] <IceLink> ah
[07:14] <IceLink> this is what i neede dtarz
[07:14] <hans> limejuice, rambo3: removed that line, didn't work, same problem
[07:14] <jrib> arturo_on_rails: upstart is replacing sysv init btw, so you may be interested in that...
[07:14] <starz> found moar partitions??
[07:14] <starz> :)
[07:14] <IceLink> yeah
[07:14] <starz> look for the one labeled ntfs hehe
[07:14] <IceLink> 200 GB? may i lol
[07:14] <IceLink> ja it is
[07:14] <starz> ah
[07:14] <langezwieper> starz, it still isnt fixed :( i removed beryl like you said and after login the screen is still blank
[07:14] <Ind[y] > Actually, I think it started happening, after setting a domain name for my machine.
[07:14] <starz> langezwieper, ok
[07:14] <Ind[y] > pike_: Actually, I think it started happening, after setting a domain name for my machine.
[07:15] <starz> langezwieper, go to that console: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:15] <jart> is there some sort of caching or expire feature enabled by default for ubuntu apache?
[07:15] <langezwieper> starz, just did that already doenst make any difference :(
[07:15] <IceLink> starz if you told me how to change chmod i would be very pleasant
[07:15] <starz> IceLink, eh?
[07:15] <Ind[y] > pike_: 127.0.0.1 localhost
[07:15] <Ind[y] > 127.0.1.1 latitude.homepad
[07:16] <IceLink> well  think i mounted
[07:16] <Yotsuya-san> Hello. I recently added an additional system to my system running Ubuntu 7.04. I used gparted to create an ext3 partition. I am able to mount the partition to a point in /media and can access the partition from command line however an icon for the partition does not appear on my desktop. Icons for other drives running ntfs and network drives via cifs appear fine. Can anyone tell me how to make an ext3 mounted partition appear as
[07:16] <Yotsuya-san> an icon on an ubuntu desktop?
[07:16] <starz> langezwieper, ok do this: sudo aptitude remove beryl* emerald*
[07:16] <Ind[y] > pike_: maybe that caused the problem?
[07:16] <IceLink> but i can't take a look at it cause it's chmod is ugly
[07:16] <SayaSe> Evening. Since I can't really figure out where the issue is, I'll give this channel a shot... http://static.pici.se/pictures/iGmVqVyZh.png is my problem.
[07:16] <rambo3> hans, it wasn't the problem . can you reinstall grub ?
[07:16] <b00t> hello everyone
[07:17] <langezwieper> starz, done nothing found 0packages, 0packages installed, 0 to be deleted
[07:17] <Ominous> how can i get the extra 2 buttons working on my logitech mouse?
[07:17] <Nevis> hi there - what's the best way to remove an old ubuntu and install a recent version if I'm using dual boot with XP?
[07:17] <starz> langezwieper, boot it in recovery mode
[07:17] <arturo_on_rails> jrib: thanks, reading just now...
[07:17] <b00t> im trying to install ubuntu on my pc though am having problems booting up with the cd! could any1 help out
[07:17] <Ind[y] > dr_willis: could it be that?
[07:17] <starz> and paste your xorg.conf if you can sir
[07:17] <langezwieper> starz, okay and then execute the same command?
[07:17] <pike_> Ind[y] : yeah maybe it can slow down some stuff if 127.0.0.1  isnt resolving to the hostname too
[07:17] <starz> langezwieper, no we just want you in a gui for a minute
[07:18] <ubunturos> what's the dialer on Ubuntu ? (something similar to kppp)?
[07:18] <starz> make sure nvidia-glx is in or whatever etc
[07:18] <Ind[y] > pike_: so, what must I do? delete the line in /etc/hosts that says about latitude.homepad ?
[07:18] <starz> maybe change your driver to nv instead of nvidia langezwieper
[07:18] <starz> IceLink, chmod what?
[07:18] <IceLink> a dir
[07:18] <langezwieper> starz, blabla has been mounted 37 times blabla :) ill wait
[07:18] <IceLink> but i've got it
[07:18] <starz> chmod -R 777 /something/that/gets/shared
[07:18] <starz> etc
[07:18] <Yotsuya-san> Omnibus: I used this guide to get all the buttons working on my Logitech MX1000 maybe it will help you --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse
[07:18] <starz> ah
[07:18] <starz> langezwieper, yeah let it scan
[07:18] <ubunturos> !kppp
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kppp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <pike_> Ind[y] : nah you can just add another 127.0.0.1  whateveryourhostnameis   line below it
[07:19] <ubunturos> !dailer
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dailer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <IceLink> argh which one is read-only
[07:19] <starz> langezwieper, eh?
[07:19] <Ind[y] > pike_: Why's that?
[07:19] <starz> for ntfs support correctly use ntfs-3g
[07:19] <starz> !ntfs-3g | IceLink
[07:19] <ubotu> IceLink: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:20] <IceLink> starz, i could read my ntfs with my browser
[07:20] <starz> mmhmm
[07:20] <IceLink> could => not today
[07:20] <pike_> Ind[y] : type the command 'hostname'  then when it tells you the hostname type 'gksu gedit /etc/hosts'  and add that line
[07:20] <starz> if you follow the ntfs-3g guide itl be pimp i promisse
[07:20] <pike_> Ind[y] : might work and if not it wont hurt anything
[07:21] <Ind[y] > pike_: add that line where?
[07:21] <Ind[y] > it is just a word
[07:21] <IceLink> okay i'll try it afterwards
[07:21] <IceLink> thanks and bye
[07:21] <langezwieper> starz, scanning is at 28%
[07:22] <starz> ok langezwieper
[07:22] <pike_> Ind[y] : add the line 127.0.0.1  yourhostname    to the bottom of the file and save
[07:23] <Ind[y] > pike_: Everything was super fast, when I added through the GUI network applet a domain name for my pc. Now, my /etc/hosts is like this --> http://pastebin.ca/600129
[07:24] <Ind[y] > pike_: shit, worked!
[07:24] <Ind[y] > :)
[07:24] <Ind[y] > thank you pike_
[07:24] <Ind[y] > thanks a lot
[07:24] <Ind[y] > but how can /etc/hosts affect system performance?
[07:26] <pike_> Ind[y] : np :)
[07:27] <Ind[y] > pike_: thanks again :-) But how can /etc/hosts affect system performance?
[07:27] <pike_> Ind[y] : you can put anything you want in the hosts file anyip  anyname and it will resolve it to that ip when you use the name. im not too familiar with gnome but i know it used to complain if it wasnt in hosts
[07:27] <trend> hello
[07:27] <CoffeeDaze> Hello all :)  I have a newb question.  I recently installed Ubuntu 7 and noticed I can not change my screen resolution higher than 60Hz.  I know it can handle 75Hz and wonder how I can change this.  I am using an NVidia 6200
[07:27] <trend> I need to backup an external hd of my client's I just hooked up by usb
[07:27] <starz> pike_, / Ind[y]  have yall noticed any difference between enableing and leaving disabled ipv6  support when your local isp doesnt use it/?
[07:27] <trend> what would be the best way to do this via command line?
[07:27] <pike_> Ind[y] : ya might ask in gnome for a quick answer
[07:28] <starz> CoffeeDaze, open a terminal and type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:28] <starz> choose correct dirvers etc
[07:28] <pike_> Ind[y] : #gnome i mean
[07:28] <CoffeeDaze> ok
[07:28] <starz> abd backup xorg.conf first: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.works
[07:28] <langezwieper> starz, okay im into root
[07:28] <starz> CoffeeDaze, back it up first :D
[07:28] <starz> ok langezwieper
[07:28] <starz> let me see here
[07:28] <pike_> starz: ive rarely had a problem with ipv6 but i normally do disable it just in case
[07:28] <Juhaz> Ind[y] , if modifying hosts affects system performance (things take a long while to start?) it's probably because you broke something so that the hostname doesn't resolve and something waits before that timeouts.
[07:29] <starz> langezwieper, i dont have beryl in this one so i'm going tno put it in and will get the packages we need to make sure are ou for you
[07:29] <langezwieper> k
[07:29] <starz> in the meantime you have nvidia-glx in for your video langezwieper ?
[07:30] <langezwieper> how do you mean exactly (sorry im new to this stuff)
[07:30] <Ind[y] > Juhaz: I see. I just added an arbitrary domain name through the gnome network applet
[07:31] <blargas> can anyone help with nvidia twinview issues?  i have two monitors, but when i try to watch fullscreen video, it plays in the middle, split between the two!  everything else is working fine.  there doesnt seem to be many answers on the forums
[07:31] <CoffeeDaze> ok, that setup is far beyond me.  I could never walk through that as I don't know what half the info it is asking even means.
[07:32] <Chicory> I'm having an issue with Firefox lately.
[07:32] <Chicory> It seems to be an Ubuntu-only thing.
[07:32] <starz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851   <<--- thats the guide i usually use for beryl langezwieper
[07:32] <starz> ah
[07:32] <starz> to check drivers etc: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <Chicory> I go to Truman State University, and as part of their web-portal thing for checking grades and registering for classes, they assign a cookie for every login instance.
[07:33] <blargas> im using the nvidia restricted drivers, and everything seems to be fine in xorg.conf
[07:33] <langezwieper> identifier NVIDIA 7800GTX                   driver nv         busid     pci:3:0:0
[07:33] <Chicory> But when I back-arrow to the last menu, then try to access something else, it's all like "BREAK-IN ATTEMPTED MAYBE" which seems to mean that it's reading the cookie as if two people are trying to use it at once a la spoof.
[07:33] <Chicory> This seems to only happen in Ubuntu.
[07:34] <Chicory> Any clues?
[07:34] <Bored1ed> Hello world
[07:34] <beau> im having some troubles mounting my ntfs external usb drive
[07:34] <stefg> !
[07:34] <Bored1ed> yea I had a problem mounting my NTFS external. Never figured it out
[07:34] <starz> ah
[07:34] <starz> langezwieper, gotcha
[07:34] <starz> try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:35] <starz> or wait
[07:35] <PleegWat> Mine worked fine right away. But I had trouble unmounting it
[07:35] <beau>  ive rebooted into windows twice, safely removed hardware.. still nothing
[07:35] <Bored1ed> My external drive wouldnt let my write to it
[07:35] <langezwieper> starz, okay ill wait :d
[07:35] <PleegWat> Ah, that's a config thing. NTFS drives are mounted readonly by default
[07:35] <starz> do sudo apt-cache search ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:36] <beau> at first i could read it but then when i tried to mount it ntfs-3g read/write it doesnt work at all
[07:36] <Bored1ed> really. I'll look into that
[07:36] <beau> even with force lines in /etc/fstab
[07:36] <tck> Is there any other process monitoring utility besides ps and top ?
[07:36] <starzz> eh im over here
[07:37] <stefg> !info htop | tck
[07:37] <ubotu> tck: htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[07:37] <langezwieper> k
[07:37] <langezwieper> ill give it a try
[07:37] <tck> stefg, doh how could i forget :P
[07:37] <tck> stefg, although theres another built in one i think
[07:37] <langezwieper> starz, i get commonly used restricted packages
[07:38] <starz> mm
[07:38] <starz> without completing it try installing it
[07:38] <starz> im starzz brb
[07:39] <What_the_Deuce> Hi
[07:39] <What_the_Deuce> Minor problem: login screen won't show
[07:40] <What_the_Deuce> I boot up correctly, then i get the loading thing on my cursor, then...no login screen
[07:41] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: so X doesn't start, and you drop to a console login?
[07:41] <todger> so what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu? they look the same to me
[07:41] <QwertyM> Help please, I get no sound on my Ubuntu system. I got a new pair of Creative 2.1 speakers and it seemed to work at first, then stopped working post-a-reboot.
[07:41] <stefg> !xubuntu
[07:41] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:41] <Pici> todger: xubuntu uses xfce as the default desktop environment, ubuntu uses gnome.  Otherwise, they are the same.
[07:41] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: how do i get to consol?
[07:42] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: does X start or not?
[07:42] <What_the_Deuce> I'll say yes, since i have a GUI cursor that i can move around
[07:43] <starzz> ok
[07:44] <starzz> langezwieper: sup
[07:44] <starzz> beryl in lol
[07:44] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: ok... press alt-ctrl-f1 to get to a console, login as your normal user and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' . what was the last thing you did before that occured?
[07:44] <What_the_Deuce> Install compiz
[07:44] <langezwieper> starz, okay i can get into kde lol
[07:45] <langezwieper> starz, its not gnome but it is a gui at least, only synpatic package manager doesnt work there i tried to uninstall everything
[07:45] <What_the_Deuce> And before that, installed the KDE
[07:46] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: i see ... how did you install kde?
[07:46] <starzz> langezwieper: synaptic does work in kde langezwieper
[07:46] <starzz> lol
[07:46] <What_the_Deuce> cmd, that was several boots ago
[07:46] <starzz> ive had kde installs and i ALWAYS put that thing in
[07:46] <What_the_Deuce> so thats not the problem
[07:46] <starzz> synaptic >>>>>>>> all
[07:47] <langezwieper> maybe root will help ^
[07:47] <QwertyM> Help please, I get no sound on my Ubuntu system. I got a new pair of Creative 2.1 speakers and it seemed to work at first, then stopped working post-a-reboot.
[07:47] <starzz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272104  <<--- ultimate guide
[07:47] <starzz> look langezwieper do you have seperate partition for your /home ?
[07:47] <langezwieper> no :( i was working on that
[07:47] <starzz> you might benifit from an uuber clean install man
[07:47] <starzz> ah
[07:47] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: nope, nothing, have tried with both GDM and KDM
[07:48] <starzz> install k3b and backup anything you need to and hack away is my advice
[07:48] <EMPER0R> anyone can help with debmirror command??? -> http://pastebin.ca/600153
[07:48] <starzz> always ALWAYS use seperate dir for /home
[07:48] <tck> stefg, i guess pstree would count too right?
[07:48] <EMPER0R> i'm trying to make a new debmirror of ubuntu
[07:48] <metbsd> i'm going to install windows 2000
[07:48] <langezwieper> and downloading evy? okay its not the best program but maybe my xorg is good then?
[07:48] <metbsd> ubuntu can't play real player files
[07:48] <metbsd> it sucks
[07:48] <starzz> envy ?
[07:48] <langezwieper> yes
[07:48] <parmenides> I just upgraded and now I have no terminal any more
[07:49] <starzz> yeah ive heard good things about that
[07:49] <bruenig> metbsd, codecs they are called
[07:49] <starzz> i just have never bothered trying
[07:49] <starzz> :P
[07:49] <metbsd> i have installed w32codecs, video is choppy
[07:49] <zbrown> metbsd: k, no one cares.
[07:49] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: the display manager configuration seems messed up. so i'd recommend installing one of the meta-packages (ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop) to make sure you actually have a display manager
[07:49] <bruenig> metbsd, w32codecs is not real player
[07:49] <metbsd> i know no one cares
[07:49] <steveire> !backup
[07:49] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:49] <bruenig> real player plays fine on my mplayer here
[07:49] <metbsd> i installed helix-player, and even dl realplayer gold
[07:49] <metbsd> playing mp4 is fine
[07:50] <steveire> !sbackup
[07:50] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[07:50] <bruenig> who uses real player anyways, it is terrible
[07:50] <metbsd> but when i try to play rmvb file. choppy
[07:50] <EMPER0R> i'm trying to make a new debmirror of ubuntu
[07:50] <EMPER0R> anyone can help with debmirror command??? -> http://pastebin.ca/600153
[07:50] <metbsd> i care. many movies are in rmvb format
[07:50] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: i think i'll remove KDE first?
[07:50] <metbsd> but who cares about ubuntu
[07:51] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: no, jsut sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:51] <langezwieper> starz, im trying to reinstall my linux drivers, when i download them with synaptic package manager, then they are automaticcaly installed? and editted my xorg?conf?
[07:51] <drthunder> I installed desktop effects, got the white screen of death and then I tried to update my xorg files and now I get nothing.
[07:51] <drthunder> lange: are we having the same prob bob?
[07:52] <vic> hola
[07:52] <langezwieper> maybe i dont know :)
[07:52] <langezwieper> you still get a cursor also?
[07:52] <vic> alguien en espaol
[07:52] <stefg> !es
[07:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:52] <TFrog> anyone here know where i might find deb files for Alien Arena?
[07:52] <drthunder> langez:i'd love to get a cursor, but that was yesterday before. my fixes made it worse.
[07:52] <vic> y como entro en esos canales
[07:52] <vic> ??
[07:53] <Pici> !pt | vic
[07:53] <ubotu> vic: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:53] <jrib> vic: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:53] <vic> #ubuntu-es
[07:53] <langezwieper> lol well i removed beryl, compiz, nvidia now :) i will reboot and install nvidia again, see what happens... i hope my xorfg.conf gets updates
[07:54] <frojnd> what's the command to shut down system ?
[07:54] <parmenides> how come my terminal window is a solid white box?
[07:54] <langezwieper> YEAH IM IN
[07:54] <jo3_> sudo poweroff or sudo shutdown
[07:54] <drthunder> tell me how things are going, I removed all three too
[07:54] <jrib> frojnd: shutdown -h now
[07:54] <langezwieper> ITS WORKING whooooo :d okay sry for the enth!!! :d
[07:54] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: nothing, it didn't install
[07:54] <sam__> hi im really stuck and need help upgrading ubuntu
[07:54] <langezwieper> starz, its working :d
[07:55] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: what error did you get?
[07:55] <parmenides> I just upgraded and now nothing works..
[07:55] <jrib> parmenides: are you using beryl or compiz?
[07:55] <sam__> i am using breezy badger from a cd i found in a box, and dont know how to upgrade to the latest ubuntu without having to totally reinstall
[07:55] <parmenides> no jrib I am not
[07:55] <What_the_Deuce> wait, just tried again, tis working
[07:55] <sam__> it might be a silly question
[07:56] <jrib> !upgrade > sam__ (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:56] <stefg> sam__: you probably /hve/ to reinstall
[07:56] <parmenides> my terminal is a blank white box
[07:56] <jrib> parmenides: what else isn't working?  how did you upgrade?
[07:56] <drthunder> has anyone here recovered from the wsod after using desktop effects ?
[07:56] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: right, that installed. now what?
[07:56] <parmenides> I ran upgrade tool
[07:56] <sam__> thanks everyone the docs should help
[07:56] <sam__> ^_^
[07:57] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: reboot, or 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[07:57] <langezwieper> how can i make a backup of my xorg.conf now???
[07:58] <Me2resh> hi, i need help, i connect my headphone to my laptop but i still can hear the sound from both the speaker of laptop, and the headphone, how i can configure it to hear the sound from the headphone only ?
[07:58] <sam__> so i have to progressively install every version since 5.10 (my current) to 6.10?
[07:58] <parmenides> jrib my video was messed up, I still have no terminal working and my windows are missing the border
[07:58] <sam__> is edgy the latest version?
[07:58] <magic_pinguim_> hello
[07:58] <ja> Hi folks. Ive installed on a laptop with no internet access and I want to enable desktop effets. Can I download the driver and copy it across?
[07:58] <magic_pinguim_> someone knows if one graphic card Intel GMA 950 lets work compiz in she?
[07:59] <magic_pinguim_> only work whith the ati and nvidia right?
[07:59] <magic_pinguim_> :x
[07:59] <jrib> parmenides: hit ctrl-alt-f1 and run:    ps -ef | egrep 'beryl|compiz'
[07:59] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: nothing
[07:59] <DarkED> hey all, question, can i disable the Alt+MouseMove hotkey?
[07:59] <llllllll> Is there any other way to install ubuntu than with the LiveCD?
[07:59] <magic_pinguim_> only ati and nvidia works effects on ubuntu right?
[07:59] <parmenides> jrib I will try that
[08:00] <DarkED> i'm trying to play a game that uses the Alt key but the mouse keeps moving the window
[08:00] <godt_lobtab> is there any software to convert/compress a video? i have a video that i want to fit on youtube and need it to be a bit smaller
[08:00] <jo3_> magic_pinguim_ compiz/beryl will only work on graphics card w/ 3d acceleration
[08:00] <jrib> parmenides: ok, let me know what it returns
[08:00] <sam__> *waves
[08:00] <jrib> parmenides: ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to X btw
[08:00] <Stwange> hey, I've installed a program (libnjb1) for my mp3 player, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to run it. I have uploaded the list of installed files to http://www.hateweb.co.uk/zen.txt if anyone could tell me what I'm supposed to do with these I would really appreciate it
[08:01] <DarkED> nevermind, got it sorted, thanks
[08:01] <bruenig> Stwange, that is a library
[08:01] <caner> my keyboard layout keeps changing ramdomly (i couldnt find how) and i cant fix it from syst/pref/keyb/layouts (it is english there) but now it prints arabic letter from right to left :((. could someone please help??
[08:01] <Stwange> that explains it :) cheers
[08:01] <bruenig> Stwange, see lib at the beginning, that tends to be the tip
[08:01] <Saint_Belmont> How do you uninstall programs on Ubuntu?
[08:01] <Stwange> so I'm guessing I need to install something else?
[08:02] <jrib> !software > Saint_Belmont (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:03] <aureliocr> kien cojones sois
[08:03] <godt_lobtab> is there any software to convert/compress a video? i have a video that i want to fit on youtube and need it to be a bit smaller
[08:03] <jo3_> Saint_Belmont sudo apt-get remove package will uninstall it... beware of the dependancies it will remove also
[08:03] <aureliocr> o de donde
[08:03] <aureliocr> como minimo
[08:03] <jrib> Saint_Belmont: in synaptic, you just right cick -> remove
[08:03] <jrib> !es | aureliocr
[08:03] <ubotu> aureliocr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:03] <stefg> What_the_Deuce: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm && sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' ,choose gdm
[08:04] <aureliocr> enseame
[08:04] <Sonderblade> anyone know how to solve the problem with kacpid and kacpi_notify stealing all cpu?
[08:04] <caner> my keyboard layout keeps changing ramdomly (i couldnt find how) and i cant fix it from syst/pref/keyb/layouts (it is english there) but now it prints arabic letter from right to left :((. could someone please help??
[08:04] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: 1 sec, busy removing KDE
[08:04] <aureliocr> xk sois todos ingleses?
[08:04] <caner> but in firefox's address bar i can write normally. why can this be.?(i am copying from there :)))
[08:04] <jrib> aureliocr: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:05] <IceLink> memememeep memeeep *right back*
[08:05] <Zbrahead91> Hello
[08:05] <k31th> wats ubuntu like with xen
[08:05] <Chicory> Stupid question, but how do I enter text in a plain PDF form in Ubuntu?
[08:05] <gregcha117> i cant seem to get my microphone to work, i have an nvidia ck804 ac'97 audio controller
[08:05] <Chicory> By hand.
[08:06] <Zbrahead91> Can anyone offer help with VHCS on feisty?
[08:06] <Zbrahead91> Anyone?
[08:07] <Zbrahead91> At all?
[08:07] <Zbrahead91> Please?
[08:07] <Zbrahead91> With cake?
[08:07] <sam__> i can't get the update manager to update me to dapper
[08:07] <sam__> any ideas?
[08:07] <Zbrahead91> Make a backup.
[08:07] <Zbrahead91> Install feisty.
[08:07] <mititelu`> how
[08:07] <Zbrahead91> Restore said backup.
[08:07] <sam__> from a disk?
[08:08] <Zbrahead91> No idea ^^
[08:08] <sam__> install from a disk?
[08:08] <parmenides> ok jrib, I had to reboot because it refused to allow the switch back with ctrl alt f7
[08:08] <sam__> what is the latest ubuntu version?
[08:08] <ferronica> hi all
[08:08] <Zbrahead91> 7.04
[08:08] <jo3_> 7.04
[08:08] <Zbrahead91> Im running it.
[08:08] <jo3_> doh!
[08:09] <Zbrahead91> It's coded Feisty Fawn
[08:09] <jo3_> who was asking about kacpi stuff?
[08:09] <mititelu`> how
[08:09] <stefg> sam__: breezy is 'end-of-life'.... no longer supported, so it might be that the update manager fails for that reason
[08:09] <sam__> i am a web developer and new to linux, i need to develop dynamic web apps using a localhost, should i install server edition, are there any downsides to server edition? or is it just deskstop + apache and a few extra tools?
[08:10] <sam__> i need apache and php and mysql
[08:10] <What_the_Deuce> stefg: ...... still nothing
[08:10] <sam__> and ruby
[08:10] <Zbrahead91> In this case, folks, ubuntuforum.com, ubuntugeek.com, and google.com are your best friends.
[08:10] <Zbrahead91> Sam_
[08:10] <sam__> huh?
[08:10] <preaction> sam__: server is ubuntu w/o X11
[08:10] <jrib> preaction: k
[08:10] <Zbrahead91> Download and burn the srerver edition
[08:10] <jrib> parmenides: k
[08:10] <linxeh> I'm trying to move a large directory from an NTFS windows drive/server to a new Linux machine, and the ext3 filesystem seems to barf at 32000 entries per directory (NTFS supports 4.3billion) - is there any way to get ext3 to support this, or should I move to a different filesystem (if so, what filesystem - reiserfs or??)  - thanks!
[08:10] <Zbrahead91> then when you finsih install
[08:10] <sam__> what does this mean?
[08:10] <sam__> sam__: server is ubuntu w/o X11
[08:10] <stefg> sam__: and upgrading is only supported in incremental steps. you'll end up updating over 3 versions, and chnaces are, the system will break along the way. Really: Reinstall from a Feisty CD
[08:11] <sam__> ok
[08:11] <sam__> server or desktop?
[08:11] <preaction> sam__: it's possible to make a server with the desktop edition, and a desktop with the server edition
[08:11] <Zbrahead91> Server
[08:11] <preaction> sam__: do you plan on sitting at the computer and working on it?
[08:11] <Zbrahead91> Server comes packeaged with LAMP option
[08:11] <parmenides> jrib wat did you want me to note specificly when running that command?
[08:11] <sam__> preaction:
[08:11] <sam__> yes
[08:11] <Zbrahead91> get the gui installed on sserver
[08:11] <linxeh> sam__: or do you intend to remotely use the desktop via X or NX or VNC ?
[08:11] <drthunder> the server edition has  no gui
[08:11] <Zbrahead91> visit:
[08:11] <sam__> ooh yay i nees lamp
[08:11] <Zbrahead91> Install it.
[08:11] <sam__> oh
[08:11] <jo3_> ewwwww install X on a server? just dont connect to inet :)
[08:11] <sam__> i want a nice gui
[08:12] <preaction> sam__: then use the desktop and install apache / mysql / ruby from synaptic
[08:12] <sam__> ok
[08:12] <sam__> is that the best option?
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html
[08:12] <linxeh> jo3_: most people firewall their servers though
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> Try that
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> That shows you how to install it
[08:12] <preaction> sam__: it will be far easier to have X preinstalled
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> and how to setup a GUI
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> Nah
[08:12] <IceLink> is there an easy way to read ntfs? It worked some time ago
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> I just did it on my server
[08:12] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | IceLink
[08:12] <ubotu> IceLink: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> this PC i am on is FRESH
[08:12] <Zbrahead91> VERY FRESH
[08:12] <IceLink> this isn't an easy way^^
[08:13] <linxeh> jo3_: and having X installed is different than having it running - sometimes having the X stuff is useful over an SSH session with X forwarding
[08:13] <preaction> !enter | Zbrahead91
[08:13] <ubotu> Zbrahead91: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:13] <Zbrahead91> liek installed and setup one hour ago
[08:13] <preaction> IceLink: there is no easy way other than that
[08:13] <jo3_> maybe in your world
[08:13] <IceLink> but it worked
[08:13] <sam__> so: if i install desktop edition at the moment, and add ruby apache etc throught synaptic, that will work? and if i want to run a server in the future not for dev but for serving, what is the best distro for that?
[08:13] <IceLink> i could drag&drop files from there to here
[08:13] <Zbrahead91> nooo sam
[08:13] <Zbrahead91> Sam.
[08:13] <sam__> (and dont worry i love ubuntu so that will be for dev)
[08:13] <Zbrahead91> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html
[08:14] <Saint_Belmont> Well, I have two partitions, one is 4 gigs (Where Ubuntu is) and one is 100 gigs, How do I get Ubuntu to start using the other partition to store it's files?
[08:14] <sam__> but other people say to run desktop
[08:14] <Zbrahead91> Go there, they tell you EVERYTHING you need to do.
[08:14] <sam__> do other people agree with this?
[08:14] <Zbrahead91> They are idiots
[08:14] <Zbrahead91> ^^
[08:14] <preaction> sam__: timtowtdi
[08:14] <Zbrahead91> They havent tried setting a server up on desktop obviously
[08:14] <sam__> what is the benefit of using server edition?
[08:14] <preaction> Zbrahead91: no, i only run my entire home network off of my ubuntu desktop / server.
[08:15] <jo3_> its not full of stuff you dont need.. bluetooth etc..
[08:15] <stefg> !fstab | Saint_Belmont
[08:15] <ubotu> Saint_Belmont: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:15] <preaction> sam__: none whatsoever, besides the installer having a "lamp" option. but you're using it as a desktop / server.
[08:15] <sam__> here is my question:
[08:15] <ssssss> I have an annoying database I'm modelling in rails which has tablename_id instead of id on all the tables. Can I tell rails to use that instead of id in the model somehow?
[08:15] <Zbrahead91> Pre-installed LAMP, DNS and can instaqll ubuntu-desktop with ease.
[08:15] <preaction> sam__: you need all the stuff that server edition leaves out, and will end up downloading it anyway
[08:15] <Zbrahead91> preaction, why you hate server ed?
[08:16] <What_the_Deuce> How do i change default session in cmd (when i set the session in system-> administration-> login)
[08:16] <parmenides> I upgraded and now I have no terminal!!!
[08:16] <preaction> Zbrahead91: because, in this instance, I would not use it. on a headless / no-X machine, surely
[08:16] <sam__> is server desktop with extra features, or is desktop more feature full, and server less featured
[08:16] <sam__> is there not a version with all the features of desktop + LAMP and dns etc?
[08:16] <sam__> like a dev server
[08:17] <jo3_> sure install desktop then install apache/mysql/php etc...
[08:17] <Zbrahead91> If you install ubuntu-desktop from apt-get on the servers' CLI, you geta  fully featured GUI
[08:17] <kitche> sam__: desktop is gui and such you can install packages on either one for what you want to do
[08:17] <Zbrahead91> With openoffice.org and most other things installed.
[08:17] <preaction> sam__: as i said before, either way you could go: install server and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; or install desktop and sudo apt-get install ruby apache2 mysql-server
[08:17] <jrib> parmenides: what was the output from the command you ran?
[08:18] <parmenides> jrib what exactly did you want me to note? there was a lot there
[08:18] <caner> how can i change my system encoding. it prints arabic letter (i dont know how i managed to change to it), but i cant restore it now. could someone please help?
[08:18] <sam__> right: so shall i install server and then install ubuntu-desktop or shall i install desktop and add lamp?
[08:18] <jrib> parmenides: hit alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace'
[08:18] <Zbrahead91> noo sam
[08:18] <preaction> sam__: that's the question you have to answer
[08:18] <IceLink> why am I not able to find ntfs-config with synaptic ~~
[08:18] <sam__> ok
[08:18] <Zbrahead91> Say the main Q
[08:18] <stefg> sam__: install server and get ubuntu-desktop on top...
[08:18] <preaction> !repositories | IceLink
[08:18] <ubotu> IceLink: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:18] <Zbrahead91> u agree with stefg
[08:19] <Zbrahead91> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html
[08:19] <ikon> any knows the name of the package for UNIX net compatibility ?
[08:19] <jrib> IceLink: have you enabled universe?
[08:19] <IceLink> yeah
[08:19] <Zbrahead91> that site has a step by step easy peasy guide lol :D
[08:19] <preaction> ikon: what's unix net compatibility?
[08:19] <sam__> but one last question: server is fully featured right? i dont need to configure apache to work with php and mysql etc? right? thats all done?
[08:19] <IceLink> (dapper drake)
[08:19] <Zbrahead91> no
[08:19] <Zbrahead91> It's auto
[08:19] <parmenides> jrib ok, done... now what do you want me to try?
[08:19] <jrib> IceLink: ntfs-config doesn't exist in dapper
[08:19] <Saint_Belmont> !partition
[08:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:19] <IceLink> damn
[08:19] <jrib> parmenides: did you get window borders?
[08:19] <IceLink> any alternative?
[08:20] <Zbrahead91> when you select LAMP and DNS during install they auto config
[08:20] <parmenides> jrib no
[08:20] <IceLink> +s
[08:20] <sam__> so can i get a consensus here?
[08:20] <jrib> parmenides: create a new user
[08:20] <ikon> i mean, when you open the share folder manager, he ask you for install a WINS compatibility and UNIX compatibility
[08:20] <Stormx2> Saint_Belmont: Who was that for?
[08:20] <preaction> sam__: you'll never get a consensus in this place.
[08:20] <Saint_Belmont> !gparted
[08:20] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:20] <rdvon> I got compiz fusion working with an ati x1300.
[08:20] <Zbrahead91> I'm using server edition with ubuntu-desktop.
[08:20] <preaction> ikon: you mean NFS
[08:20] <ikon> i guess
[08:20] <IceLink> i don't understand since i really good copy files from my win-disk onto my ubuntu-disk by drag&drop, preaction
[08:20] <IceLink> *coul
[08:20] <preaction> IceLink: that's ntfs READ, not write
[08:21] <ikon> NFS is like WINS ?
[08:21] <IceLink> i just want to read
[08:21] <Zbrahead91> it took me  about 30 mins to set it up
[08:21] <preaction> ikon: it's not WINS, it's samba (to the *nix world at least)
[08:21] <IceLink> but it doesn'T work this way any longer
[08:21] <Saint_Belmont> My Ubuntu partition is full. And I have a 100 gigs waiting for it. GRRR
[08:21] <Stormx2> sam__: Yeah. You just need apache2, php5 and the apache php5 module.
[08:21] <sam__> so if i run server edition and install ubuntu-desktop ill get the features of server but a nice gui and all the jazz that comes with desktop right? the best of both worlds?
[08:21] <parmenides> jrib ok, done
[08:21] <preaction> ikon: my opinion is use samba for everything, some people prefer nfs for *nix-to-*nix only
[08:21] <jrib> parmenides: login with the new user
[08:21] <sebastien_44> hi dudes
[08:21] <ikon> ok
[08:21] <Stormx2> sam__: if you count having a gui on a server an advantage, then yeah
[08:21] <jrib> !ntfs > IceLink (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:21] <IceLink> wait
[08:21] <ikon> are you sure?
[08:22] <sam__> its only a dev server
[08:22] <IceLink> i'Ve got an idea
[08:22] <Stormx2> Saint_Belmont: Please /msg ubotu in future if its for you.
[08:22] <sam__> i dont just want it as a server, i want other stuff as well
[08:22] <Zbrahead91> Yeo
[08:22] <IceLink> ahm, how is the gnome filebrowser called?
[08:22] <Stormx2> sam__: Then install desktop
[08:22] <sam__> ok
[08:22] <jrib> IceLink: nautilus
[08:22] <sam__> desktop it is
[08:22] <Zbrahead91> Do the sever then GUi
[08:22] <sam__> can i do apt-get
[08:22] <Zbrahead91> Noocakes!
[08:22] <Stormx2> sam__: i run an apache2 server off my desktop.
[08:22] <stefg> Saint_Belmont: so you add separate partitions for /home (maybe /var, too) and enter this into /etc/fstab, as teh link i gave you explains
[08:22] <ikon> are you sure preaction ?
[08:22] <sam__> and get lamp that way?
[08:22] <Stormx2> sam__: It's one command to get a LAMP configuration.
[08:23] <sam__> ok
[08:23] <sam__> thanks
[08:23] <sam__> desktop
[08:23] <sebastien_44> Y a t' il des franais ici ?
[08:23] <Stormx2> There's a wiki page on it, too :)
[08:23] <preaction> ikon: what do you mean am i sure? i said what I do
[08:23] <Stormx2> !fr | sebastien_44
[08:23] <rdvon> could someone help me with installing enlightenment?
[08:23] <jrib> !fr  | sebastien_44
[08:23] <Busata> !fr
[08:23] <preaction> !fr | sebastien_44
[08:23] <ubotu> sebastien_44: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:23] <ikon> ok
[08:23] <sam__> ill be back on in a few hours to conf lamp
[08:23] <Zbrahead91> LAMP from server auto configs.
[08:23] <Busata> wops
[08:23] <Stormx2> I win.
[08:23] <IceLink> i'm really udmb. thanks jrib and preaction, i just wasn't sudo -.-
[08:23] <sam__> thanks
[08:23] <Zbrahead91> b00b.
[08:23] <Zbrahead91> :p
[08:23] <ikon> well... i need help with my sound
[08:23] <rich115> hello i need help
[08:23] <Busata> !shoot
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shoot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <bloodytux> i deleted the little task bar thing that shows the icons for windows that are open like pdigin and beryl, how do i get it back
[08:23] <jrib> !helpme | ikon rich115
[08:23] <ubotu> ikon rich115: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:23] <stefg> !sound | ikon
[08:23] <Busata> oh what kind of bot are you!
[08:23] <ubotu> ikon: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:24] <rich115> how do i remove ubuntu?
[08:24] <sebastien_44> i know, i was just asking :)
[08:24] <preaction> rich115: install another OS over the top
[08:24] <caner> how can i change my system encoding. it prints arabic letter (i dont know how i managed to change to it), but i cant restore it now. could someone please help?
[08:24] <Zbrahead91> :i!
[08:24] <sebastien_44> --> <ubotu>
[08:24] <vic> como entro a ubunu-es
[08:24] <jo3_> rich115 what do you want to replace ubuntu with?
[08:24] <jrib> vic: escreve:  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <rich115> ok.... i have windows installed into a master harddrive, and ubuntu on the secondary hard drive....
[08:25] <vic> Join #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <rich115> im trying to get rid of ubuntu on the secondary one
[08:25] <jrib> vic: com /
[08:25] <Zbrahead91> why rich?
[08:25] <Zbrahead91> why?
[08:25] <vic> join #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <rich115> its messing up the boot process
[08:25] <Zbrahead91> ubuntu pwnt :D
[08:25] <jrib> vic: ---> /  <----
[08:25] <sam_> last question: LTS or not?
[08:25] <Saint_Belmont> How do I change the size of the partition where Ubuntu is installed.
[08:25] <Zbrahead91> Use GParted
[08:26] <Saint_Belmont> Does that come preinstalled?
[08:26] <rich115> how do i get rid of it?
[08:26] <jo3_> LTS, why not?
[08:26] <Sonderblade> why isn't /usr/share/python-support on python's sys.path in feisty?
[08:26] <parmenides> jrib I logged in as new user and everything is fine, what did I break?
[08:26] <sam_> whats the benefits?
[08:26] <jo3_> long term support
[08:26] <sam_> which is better?
[08:26] <jo3_> support is better than no support
[08:26] <jrib> parmenides: from your description it sounds like the other account is trying to use compiz or beryl
[08:26] <sam_> there is no diff though? i can still upgrade?
[08:27] <steveire> sam_: If you have to ask, you probably don't need it. Applications will be frustratingly old
[08:27] <rich115> how do i get rid of the ubuntu so i can run windows XP?
[08:27] <sam_> ok
[08:27] <Zbrahead91> rich
[08:27] <jrib> rich115: put your windows isntall disk in the drive and reboot
[08:27] <ompaul> rich115, use your xp disk and ask in ##windows
[08:27] <sam_> thank you steveire
[08:27] <Zbrahead91> ever thought the poroblem might be your BIOS?
[08:27] <sam_> also: how do i send those red messages?
[08:27] <parmenides> jrib I never installed them though.... is there something I can do to fix this?
[08:27] <jrib> parmenides: did you ever try enabling "3d effects"?
[08:27] <ikon> i need to know my soundcard chipset
[08:27] <rich115> well, when i start the computer and i take ubuntu off the secondary hardrive, it says GRUB load fail
[08:27] <Zbrahead91> launch into setup and pick a boot order
[08:27] <ikon> how?
[08:28] <parmenides> jrib not that I know of
[08:28] <rich115> and i told it to load the master boot first
[08:28] <steveire> sam_: Like this one? the line is highlighted because your username is in it
[08:28] <Zbrahead91> anyone can help me installing VHCS on feisty?
[08:28] <Zbrahead91> io can't see highlight
[08:28] <jrib> parmenides: poke around ~broken_user/.config/autostart  .  Also try deleting ~broken_user/.gnome2/session
[08:28] <stefg> rich115: do you know what a MBR is?
[08:28] <Zbrahead91> im on ChatZilla
[08:28] <rich115> can some1 help me in a private message?
[08:29] <rdvon> I have a problem, whenever I try to start enlightenment, I get this error: Enlightenment set up window management for all the screens on your system failed. Perhaps another window manager is running? Is it because I'm running compiz fusion?
[08:29] <parmenides> stefg MBR is master boot record
[08:29] <john`> can ubuntu run the game called "Lost planet"
[08:29] <john`> ?
[08:29] <john`> have anyone try it yet?
[08:29] <rich115> can some1 help me in a private message?
[08:30] <rdvon> john, you could perhaps try installing steam, than the game...
[08:30] <rdvon> rich115, what is your problem
[08:30] <btrump> .com
[08:30] <john`> hmm
[08:30] <ikon> how can i view my soundcard?
[08:30] <rich115> i cant get ubuntu off my slave drive without messing up the boot process
[08:31] <Saint_Belmont> HOw do I set my Superuser password?
[08:31] <pike_> !root | Saint_Belmont
[08:31] <ubotu> Saint_Belmont: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:31] <rdvon> Saint_Belmont, what do you need it for?
[08:31] <kitche> rdvon: well enlightenment and compiz-fusion can't run at the same time sicne they are the same thing a window manager
[08:31] <rdvon> kitche, oh, I just wanted the dock....
[08:31] <rich115> when i get rid of the slave drive with ubuntu on it, it wont load the windows hard drive
[08:31] <Saint_Belmont> So I can delete some programs.
[08:32] <jrib> Saint_Belmont: you use synaptic for that
[08:32] <pike_> Saint_Belmont: basically you set a password for root though its not recommended. if you later decide to put it back to default do sudo passwd -l root   and itll disable it again
[08:32] <rich115> how do i make it load the master drive?
[08:32] <stefg> rich115: boot with you windows-cd to recovery console, run 'fixmbr' there. /end-of-windows-support
[08:32] <Saint_Belmont> Because my Ubuntu partition is full. And it says something like it can't copy the root file or some shit, and it's agrivating me v.v
[08:32] <kennnethaar> hi!
[08:32] <pike_> Saint_Belmont: dont enable root in that case use sudo apt-get remove packagename or synaptic (the package manager synaptic is simplest way)
[08:32] <kennnethaar> Hi
[08:32] <rdvon> I'm going to install steam : )
[08:32] <ikon> i need my chipset
[08:33] <jrib> Saint_Belmont: hit ctrl-alt-f1 and login.  Then run 'sudo apt-get clean'.  Then return to the graphical login with ctrl-alt-f7
[08:33] <rich115> but i already have windows on the master drive, the computer just tries to load the ubuntu, which i removed
[08:33] <kitche> !language | Saint_Belmont
[08:33] <ubotu> Saint_Belmont: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:33] <drthunder> i'm trying to recover a bunch of files, and some of them say "you're not the owner" after i have mounted the drive. know any fixes?
[08:34] <Chicory> o_o
[08:35] <tuqann> Hi, anyone can help me with Bash script (file content editing commands) or guide me to a room that would help me
[08:35] <sakaa> anybody here?
[08:35] <Cromag> 20:35:32 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu: Total of 1146 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1146 normal] 
[08:35] <stefg> tuqann: #bash
[08:35] <Cromag> yes, there are someone here.
[08:36] <tuqann> thank you
[08:36] <sakaa> ok finally.. can somebody help me with some nvidia drivers?
[08:36] <drthunder> sakaa: i'm having nvidia driver probs too. i'm just trying to back everything up now.
[08:36] <kennnethaar> I can't seem to watch video in kubuntu with my via Unichrome  Pro IGP motherboard (it's a FS amilo Pro v2030) Everything else works but video only shows a black screen. If I use the vesa driver instead of the via driver I can watch video with mismatched colours and timedelay.
[08:37] <JKennedy> Anyone know why my dwl-g630 card has a stronger signal on Windows than it does on Ubuntu?
[08:37] <sebastien_44> i d like to ask you something : do you advice me gnome or kde ( or somethiong else... ) but dont troll :)
[08:37] <sebastien_44> please
[08:37] <Busata> check em both out, see what works for you :)
[08:37] <Endlessguitar> hello c
[08:37] <JKennedy> It depends on your needs. :)
[08:37] <sakaa> has anybody had any luck with their nvidia cards? im trying to install an geforce 8800 gts
[08:37] <Endlessguitar> does warcradft frozen throne excist to linux?
[08:38] <Busata> Endlessguitar, you can try wine or cedega, think it works
[08:38] <rdvon> How do i run google desktop after installing it.... ?
[08:38] <Endlessguitar> Okej
[08:38] <Busata> and I even think there's a topic about it on ubuntuforums
[08:38] <Endlessguitar> which one is best?
[08:38] <sebastien_44> i tried kubuntu and ubuntu. i prefere gnome, then im on ubuntu but i dont realy know kde
[08:38] <Endlessguitar> cedega or wine?
[08:38] <Busata> well depends a bit on the game :)
[08:38] <sebastien_44> ok ill see
[08:38] <drthunder> what is file owner 1000 ?
[08:38] <kennnethaar> JKennedy: I have the experience that if you use NDISwrapper it get the same range...
[08:38] <ikon> what is better? cedega or wine?
[08:38] <Busata> and you gotta pay for cedega
[08:38] <rdvon> cedega is meant for games.
[08:38] <JKennedy> kennnethaar, instead of the driver that comes with it?
[08:39] <rdvon> cedega is basically wine optimized for gaems.
[08:39] <ikon> ok
[08:39] <JKennedy> kennnethaar, at the moment I just plug in and it just works. But you're saying I should try out ndiswrapper instead?
[08:39] <Endlessguitar> hello whats best cedega or wine?
[08:39] <kennnethaar> Yes, If range is an issue...
[08:39] <Endlessguitar> I will play warcraft frozen throne
[08:40] <JKennedy> kennnethaar, I'll give it a try, thanks.
[08:40] <kennnethaar> With ndiswrapper you use the windows driver.
[08:40] <person> I want to make a simple shell script adduser xyz and the whatever password, for a hundred users, but how would I go about doing that
[08:40] <bruenig> Endlessguitar, cedega is best, it costs money and is not open source
[08:40] <sakaa> do anybody have any experience with succesfully installing their nvidia graphics cards?
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> oh okej
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> but
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> works wine too?
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> or?
[08:40] <stefg> kennnethaar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184512
[08:40] <train> is anyone using Pidgin/Gaim to connect to a silc network?
[08:40] <bruenig> Endlessguitar, not sure if it does or not
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> ok
[08:40] <Busata> like I said, there's a topic about it on ubuntuforums somewhere
[08:40] <pike_> sakaa: nvidia is usually pretty painless
[08:40] <bruenig> person, I assume you want them all to have different passwords?
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> what need I to write in terminal for get wine?
[08:40] <Endlessguitar> sudo apt-get install wine?
[08:41] <Busata> yes
[08:41] <bruenig> Endlessguitar, yes
[08:41] <Endlessguitar> ok
[08:41] <pike_> sakaa: what card model?
[08:41] <sebastien_44> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:41] <KDan> any idea what the "init" process is? And whether I can kill it?
[08:41] <person> yes bruenig, i was hoping i would be able to add a line with the password for each one
[08:41] <Endlessguitar> and which one media player can I use winamp skins to?
[08:41] <stefg> KDan: *very* bad idea to kill init
[08:42] <KDan> stefg: ok. it's taking up 90+% of cpu constantly on this xen virtual machine
[08:42] <aarcane_> wow, is it just me or is ubuntu slow to load ?
[08:42] <ikon> what is the best software for backup?
[08:42] <bruenig> person, ok so do you know all the adduser parameters and stuff, you just want to know how to get it in script form
[08:42] <sakaa> im on a 8800 gts
[08:42] <aarcane_> ikon, dd or tar
[08:42] <sam_> i have a couple of small questions
[08:42] <pike_> aarcane_: look in /etc/init.d/  theres alot of stuff there (some you dont need) also the kernel is pretty big
[08:42] <sakaa> how do i write u privately, so it doesn't get this crowded?
[08:42] <Busata> sam_, start with the first ;-)
[08:42] <sam_> i have a deb of amaya
[08:43] <sam_> and i cant install it
[08:43] <stefg> KDan: init is the process #1, the mother of all processes... you can't kill it, just try to figure out what's wrong
[08:43] <Endlessguitar> hm
[08:43] <sam_> is this because im out of date?
[08:43] <sam_> im downloading feisty
[08:43] <aarcane_> pike_, I'll look into it, as soon as the system loads...  right now it's barely a sliver of a bar loaded...
[08:43] <person> bruenig: yeah, because i am adding just users and then using another service, sabayon to really configure them.
[08:43] <pike_> sakaa: just preface the comment with my name. that way if i have to go someone else can pick it up.  you can type the first few letters and hit tab key to auto complete the name
[08:43] <kennnethaar> stefg: Thanks just what I was looking for... Kept hitting bugs about #D chrashing with wasn't quite my problem...
[08:43] <bruenig> person, ok so what is the command you will use
[08:44] <pike_> aarcane_: the livecd is almost unusable on my older systems if that is what youre using
[08:44] <bruenig> person, obviously changes person to person but the template if you will
[08:44] <sam_> i dont know why it wont work
[08:44] <sakaa> pike_ like this?
[08:44] <pike_> sakaa: yep
[08:44] <sam_> it just comes up in the archive manager
[08:44] <person> bruenig: adduser person...then the password when it prompts for it
[08:44] <sam_> but it wont install
[08:44] <aarcane_> Pike_, no, an installed system...
[08:44] <sam_> whereas i installed flash player
[08:44] <aarcane_> I think I did something to make it not start....
[08:44] <sakaa> pike_ great ok, so did u install ur graphics card succesfully?
[08:44] <sam_> using deb and it worked fine
[08:45] <sam_> so can i ask the stupidist of all questions
[08:45] <sam_> how do you install software on ubuntu?
[08:45] <pike_> aarcane_: you can turn off splash at grub by hitting the e key to edit and remove it form the kernel line. it might be hanging up on something
[08:45] <sam_> (i can use synaptic)
[08:45] <bruenig> person, can't you set the password with -p
[08:45] <ikon> i need help with my soundcard
[08:45] <bruenig> person, so you don't have to wait for the prompt
[08:46] <sam_> anyonr willing to help me
[08:46] <sakaa> pike_ hallo?
[08:46] <sam_> i might seem like a bit of a lost cause at times, but i do try
[08:46] <sam_> ^_^
[08:46] <pike_> sakaa: yeah. as long as its not a very new nvidia card you can do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx; sudo nvidia-xconfig;' and hit alt-ctrl-backspace then you should see nvidia logo at login screen. old cards need nvidia-glx-legacy very new cards nvidia-glx-new
[08:46] <peeps> anyone know if there is a linux equivalent to launchy?
[08:46] <bruenig> peeps, what is that
[08:46] <peeps> http://www.launchy.net/
[08:46] <kennnethaar> peeps: kooldock?
[08:47] <What_the_Deuce> anyone? how do i mount in the kubuntu live cd
[08:47] <mike24> in ubuntu it says my ntfs partition is unknown, can anyone help fix this
[08:47] <peeps> an app for launching applications quickly with just keyboard
[08:47] <person> bruenig, I'm not sure, when I do adduser it prompts for the new unix password
[08:47] <sam_> no one can help me?
[08:47] <bruenig> person, right but if you do adduser username -p password, does it set it
[08:47] <pike_> sakaa: if anything goes wrong do this alt-ctrl-f2 then login then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa for the driver. thats the generic one then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart thatll at least git gui back
[08:47] <kennnethaar> peeps: forget it. Was thinking of something else. You wan't lineak
[08:47] <sakaa> pike_ yea here's the thing i installed like the newest "binary" drivers for it directly from nvidia, but which worked as i went into the gui straight after wards i got the "desktop effects" working but now i cannot acces it all not even if i set the driver to be vesa
[08:48] <ikon> no sound here
[08:48] <person> bruenig, no it doesn't, doesn't recognize option p
[08:48] <kennnethaar> KDE has pretty god shortcut configuratins
[08:48] <mike24>  in ubuntu it says my ntfs partition is unknown, any ideas?
[08:48] <InterNut> I have one update avail, but when trying to download and apply it i get : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a. how can i fix this? Thanks
[08:49] <stefg> peeps: in linux thit's called a console with autocompletion... actually this is a copy of a unix/linux concept, and you'll find applets with this functionality for the gnome and kde panels
[08:49] <sakaa> pike_ the thing is that the 8800 gts is very new is not really supported generically by ubuntu even tho they say so.. so other people told me to do it this way but now i can't make it work at all
[08:49] <bruenig> person, do the usernames have any pattern to them, like will it be user1 user2 user3, so that it can be easily scripted
[08:49] <person> no, however, they would be on a spreadsheet...I'm not sure if that would make it easier or harder, though
[08:50] <Elemental> hello all
[08:50] <hippie> whats a recomendation for a good sound card for linux? looking for best music sound quality
[08:50] <peeps> stefg, i know about autocompletion in terminals, i want to combine that with for ex Alt-F2 functionality.  i don't want a persistent terminal, just a quick box that i start to type a command, and it can autocomplete and i hit enter, the app launches, and I don't see the box again till i press the hotkey again
[08:50] <jo3_> creative soundblaster is my fav
[08:50] <pike_> sakaa: seems like sound advise i normally use th nvidia installer myself. only problem is that if you do an auto update and the kernel is replaced you have to rerun it.  id /join #ubuntu-effects and as there also im afraid i dont have any exp with the beryl/compiz stuff
[08:51] <person> bruenig, they are all different because it is people's names, but i could get them off a spreadsheet
[08:51] <doron> well, the kernel wasnt the problem :S
[08:51] <soyporti> I can't copy the feisty cd from ubuntu shipping. Why?
[08:51] <sakaa> pike_ ok thanks how do i do that? also would u know to remove the new driver and just go back to the vesa one?
[08:51] <doron> how can I change the resolution of framebuffer ? (tty)
[08:52] <doron> vga=bla thingy on grub doesnt work (my tty gets funky)
[08:52] <mike24> :(
[08:52] <sam_> hey: whats the radio feature and how do you use it on rythmbox
[08:52] <bruenig> person, here is how I would do it, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28257/
[08:52] <jo3_> here is good refrence for linux sound card/driver sutff http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix
[08:53] <pike_> sakaa: sudo NV*.run --uninstall  should remove the nvidia pacakge. i dont think that is your problem though. just replacing nvidia with vesa in xorg.conf is all you need to to do. if the login screen comes up then id assume its a problem with the wm
[08:53] <slasher> hey, anyone wanna help me with an ati driver issue?
[08:53] <sam_> no one?
[08:53] <doron> whats a rythembox ? :)
[08:53] <sam_> rhythmbox music player
[08:53] <meitar> I've just installed Ubuntu 7.04 with a static IP address, but when I try to ping anything (anything at all except localhost), I get "Destination Host Unreachable" error messages, even though it seems that /etc/network/interfaces and friends are configured properly. What else might I be missing? Is there any recommended guide online about setting up networking that touches on things other than this set of config files?
[08:54] <sam_> its bundled with breezy
[08:54] <person> bruenig, so then i would just have to enter the password each time right? That's not a problem if I have to, at least this makes it easier
[08:54] <sam_> is it not in newer versions?
[08:54] <doron> meitar, flush the routes
[08:54] <sakaa> pike_ aight thank u! it does not, how did i join that other chat room, i found this by google
[08:54] <doron> meitar, and add a default route to ur gateway
[08:54] <bruenig> person, yeah you would, I think that is a security measure, part of linux, ensures that scripts can't take over your system
[08:54] <bruenig> by making sure there is an actual person there to put the password
[08:55] <meitar> doron: I had done 'route add default gw <gw-ip-address>' with no luck.
[08:55] <person> bruenig, that makes sense
[08:55] <headcloud> can anyone help me with problems installing/configuring on a PPC G5?
[08:55] <sam_> whats the best media player for feisty?
[08:55] <doron> meitar, what kind of network is it ? ethernet/wireless
[08:55] <Elemental> sam: VLC
[08:55] <person> bruenig, thanks a lot that's exactly what we needed...i appreciate you writing it up and the guy next to me says you rock
[08:55] <pike_> sakaa: /join #ubuntu-effects
[08:55] <sam_> (or what does everyone use)
[08:55] <meitar> Ethernet.
[08:56] <jasonbuntu> im trying to read /proc/driver/nvidia files, but when i open them with gedit, they appear blank, how do i read these files? the text icon in nautilus appears to be properly showing me a quick text preview of the file.  how do i view these?
[08:56] <ompaul> meitar, does the network do dhcp before you go trying to work out stuff?
[08:56] <meitar> ompaul: No, this is a statically configured IP range.
[08:56] <sakaa> pike_ ok , it does seem like there are anybody there tho?
[08:56] <meitar> I thought that theoretically to add a new box I would simply need to use an IP address that wasn't already used, and tell it where to find things like nameservers and whatnot.
[08:56] <ompaul> meitar, so what is in the top box? the second box? and the third box?
[08:57] <InterNut> I have one update avail, but when trying to download and apply it i get : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a. how can i fix this? Thanks
[08:57] <person> bruenig, oh wait, do I have to put the actual script somehewehere special
[08:57] <doron> paste /etc/network/interfaces related stuff the the specific eth interface
[08:57] <jo3_> meitar can you pastebin the output of route -n
[08:57] <sakaa> pike_ would u know any other resource that might have a solution?
[08:57] <meitar> ompaul: Not sure what you're trying to ask. jo3_, doron, sure just a sec.
[08:57] <bruenig> person, just write it, make it executable and the do /path/to/script
[08:57] <ompaul> meitar, you using the gui?
[08:58] <meitar> ompaul: No, the CLI.
[08:58] <ompaul> ahh
[08:58] <ompaul> meitar, I only have configs for static on debian boxes like that
[08:58] <doron> how can I change the resolution of framebuffer ? (tty)
[08:58] <peeps> i managed to lock up my gnome panel, if i kill it and restart it will it kill the things in my system tray?
[08:59] <jo3_> doron use a vga statement at the end of your kernel line in grub
[08:59] <person> bruenig, so I just write it up and save it and then using the terminal cd to it and just enter the name of it right?
[08:59] <doron> jo3_, then the tty goes funky on me
[08:59] <bruenig> person, cd to it, then do chmod +x name, then ./name
[08:59] <doron> jo3_, I see all sorts of colours...
[08:59] <person> bruenig, perfect thanks a lot
[08:59] <caner> can someone help me to change my keyboard layout
[08:59] <jo3_> hmm
[09:00] <doron> jo3_, tried few combi from the ubuntu help, none works well
[09:00] <caner> it became arabic and i cant fix it
[09:00] <jo3_> thats how i do it.. i use vga=791
[09:00] <pike_> sakaa: there is if it only shows you then the channel name is wrong
[09:00] <ompaul> meitar, etc/network/interfaces working for me here http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/28259/
[09:00] <meitar> jo3_, doron: This is route -n, after I tried adding that default route I mentioned: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28260/
[09:00] <sakaa> pike_ yes i think ive found it now, thank u very much for ur help
[09:01] <pike_> sakaa: typically what i do is a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org myproblem'
[09:01] <ompaul> meitar, that is a machine that does not have an external ip ;-)
[09:01] <doron> jo3_, when I use 791 I see a mirror of my desktop but with funky colours
[09:01] <pike_> sakaa: np
[09:01] <pike_> sakaa: the forums are starting to become a huge resource with all the archived stuff
[09:01] <jo3_> and 10.0.0.1 is your GW correct?
[09:02] <meitar> ompaul: Speak to me like I'm a child. Giving it an address in /etc/network/interfaces, which ifconfig seems to report back to me without issue, doesn't give it an external IP if that IP is not being used elsewhere?
[09:02] <caner> hey pike_ can u help me to restore my keyboard layout.
[09:02] <meitar> jo3_: Yeah, 10.0.0.1 is my gw.
[09:02] <parmenides> jrib I am back and problem is solved...
[09:02] <ompaul> meitar, ehh, 10. drop that you don't have  65k machines
[09:03] <jo3_> ompaul it does not matter if hes only got 3 machines... just a range
[09:03] <jo3_> its a private range
[09:03] <doron> ompaul, its the default value of alot routers
[09:03] <caner> hey jo3_ can u help me to restore my keyboard layout.
[09:04] <gaston_silva> I might know about keyboard layouts
[09:04] <gaston_silva> which is the problem?
[09:04] <ompaul> doron, silly makers of said routers :)  the only time I use 10. is for people working from home on openvpn
[09:04] <bruenig> person, you may wish to make it look like this, if not once you do actually run the thing you will just get "enter unix password:" 100 times in a row and you might lose track of who you are entering, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28262/ (just added a line under the for)
[09:05] <doron> jo3_, what Im trying to eachieve is to have a 80cols 50 rows tty, is the re another way instead of grubs vga= ?
[09:05] <meitar> Well, 10 or 192.168 shouldn't matter, right? I mean, either way I have enough IPs free.
[09:05] <jo3_> ya
[09:05] <Anlar> it really does not matter. all that it means is that it's private address and treated as bogon elsewhere, not routable
[09:05] <IceLink> gey gaston_silva you reminded me on something... may it be possible to easy-switch keyboard layout by simple clicking on a keyor so?
[09:05] <jo3_> doron not that i know of.. im sure there is tho
[09:05] <younghacker> can i configure evolution to read my web mail account?
[09:05] <doron> I use 10.xxxx for my office, Im too lazy to start doing 192.168.xxxx on every machine
[09:06] <gaston_silva> you can change layout at preferences/keyboard
[09:06] <doron> jo3_, baahhhhh :(
[09:06] <meitar> Well that's fine by me. I just want this machine to be able to talk to the others. It shouldn't be too complicated, but for some reason (probably because I'm missing something, no doubt), it's not working (yet).
[09:06] <Anlar> in fact you can use really anything behind your nat, it's just slightly risky.
[09:06] <meitar> So what do I need to do that I haven't to give it an external IP? Assigning it a static free one isn't enough, apparently?
[09:06] <RustySford> hello all. I'm trying to install my nvidia drivers so I can up the resolution got everything alright but to install it it says I need to stop my xserver. Not to keen on linux yet. how do I do this?
[09:06] <Endlessguitar> hello
[09:06] <ZeZu> I'm trying to install open office via rpm (the ubuntu version wont play vids in impress), and i'm getting failed deps that are installed, anyone know why ?  (/bin/sh is one of them and libgnomevfs)
[09:07] <Ominous> whats the way that you access root again?
[09:07] <younghacker> Can i configure evolution to work with my web mail account?
[09:07] <jo3_> meitar is your gw another linux box?
[09:07] <Endlessguitar> which one is the best muscal player with winamp skins?
[09:07] <meitar> Yes.
[09:07] <jo3_> xmms used to be, but its not supported anymore
[09:07] <gaston_silva> you can stop xserver by changing your session to terminal safe
[09:07] <person> bruenig, awesome, both worked anyway
[09:07] <gaston_silva> you can do that at loggin window
[09:08] <doron> meitar, can u ping local machines ?
[09:08] <Sonicadvance1> Oi, I need help in Fixing Grub error 22 =D
[09:08] <Fedman> Hoe can I uninstall wine if I installed it from source?
[09:08] <RustySford> k what afeter that gaston_silva? is it just in services?
[09:08] <frojnd> how  can i shut down by command system?
[09:08] <doron> sudo halt
[09:08] <younghacker> is there a way to make evolution read web mail accounts?
[09:08] <meitar> doron: No. It doesn't matter what address I specify, ping always returns Destination Host Unreachable. I can only ping 127.0.0.1 or localhost.
[09:09] <gaston_silva> after that you'll start session in terminal
[09:09] <younghacker> thats yourself @ meitar
[09:09] <gaston_silva> so you'll have to make all the installation through terminal
[09:09] <doron> younghacker, only if  your server suppoprts some kind of Imap / pop
[09:09] <RustySford> ohhhh so It will only load up terminal? and then I just type the command to install them?
[09:09] <RustySford> the driver I mean
[09:09] <gaston_silva> yes
[09:09] <RustySford> ty :)
[09:09] <gaston_silva> np
[09:09] <younghacker> do you have a default gateway and proper subnet address @ meitar
[09:09] <IceLink> do you think i can import my thunderbird-stuff from windows? any experiences?
[09:09] <lazz0> so the /home dir is my user directory and everything else are system folders by default ?
[09:10] <doron> meitar, paste us ifconfig
[09:10] <Fedman> ahh nevermind I got it :)
[09:10] <younghacker> i see @ doron
[09:11] <doron> crap !!! will I ever have a 80cols by 50rows !!!
[09:11] <doron> on my tty that is
[09:11] <younghacker> cabling or addressing issue @ meitar
[09:11] <bobsomebody> what?
[09:11] <bobsomebody> oh crap wrong window
[09:11] <doron> younghacker, yeah, his ifconfig dump would help
[09:11] <TheCreationist> I just bought a 20.1in monitor, but I can't change to resolution higher than 1024x768.  How do I properly configure my monitor and supported resolutions without using the command line?
[09:12] <younghacker> definately would @ doron
[09:12] <doron> TheCreationist, ummm.... u cant ? :)
[09:12] <ZeZu> why w/o command line ?
[09:12] <bobsomebody> TheCreationist, you have to edit the xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[09:12] <Endlessguitar> hello
[09:12] <bobsomebody> it is the only way
[09:12] <Endlessguitar> which musical is best with winamp skins ?
[09:12] <TheCreationist> Okay, so could someone give me to the reconfigure command again?
[09:12] <bobsomebody> its simple too
[09:12] <Endlessguitar> for linux
[09:12] <doron> I know there is some tool called Xfree86config
[09:12] <IceLink> Dapper doesn't support Beryl? . . .
[09:12] <Endlessguitar> "musical player
[09:13] <bobsomebody> TheCreationist, open the file and find the section called Moniter
[09:13] <doron> which will allow u to do that with X
[09:13] <Truckin> Linux.....I likey......newbie
[09:13] <Sonicadvance1> I have a 20" running at 1680x1050.
[09:13] <bobsomebody> you will see the screen res's
[09:13] <meitar> doron, ifconfig at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28263/
[09:13] <meitar> Everything's pretty much default. Both are UP.
[09:13] <bobsomebody> i have 6 screens and 3 machines from one keyboard and mouse so screw everyones big flat panels
[09:14] <bobsomebody> :P
[09:14] <doron> meitar,  w00t ?!
[09:14] <lazz0> bobsomebody, showoff
[09:14] <bobsomebody> no
[09:14] <TheCreationist> I don't want to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because it screws up my video drivers.
[09:14] <doron> meitar,  r u sure thats everything ??
[09:14] <bobsomebody> if i wanted to show off i would paste the url's to the pics
[09:15] <bobsomebody> im just talking sheet
[09:15] <younghacker> lol
[09:15] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:15] <lazz0> :)))
[09:15] <doron> meitar,  check cables and lights on the ethernet card
[09:15] <Lost-Mania> id like some help please : i installed frostwire and then they ask me a nickname for irc
[09:15] <bobsomebody> yo
[09:15] <bobsomebody> get this
[09:15] <younghacker> there should be a default gateway address as well
[09:15] <Lost-Mania> i i dont wanna use irc on it
[09:15] <meitar> doron: i trimmed it, sorry.
[09:15] <bobsomebody> i got an old laptop, hp, bad screen, bad touch  pad, bad keyboard
[09:15] <bobsomebody> wont run windows
[09:15] <meitar> What I meant was, both interfaces report UP, RUNNING, etc.
[09:15] <doron> meitar, hrmmm,,, really, try the cables
[09:15] <doron> oh
[09:15] <Sonicadvance1> What video driver are you using TheCreationist that screws it up? also, you could manually edit the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[09:15] <bobsomebody> but linux server hauls ass on 1.1 / 128mb
[09:15] <younghacker> if your not reaching that via ping i would check the manner that you are receiving the address
[09:16] <bobsomebody> meitar, whats ur prob?
[09:16] <meitar> I can't ping anything at all except localhost.
[09:16] <Lost-Mania> lol
[09:16] <TheCreationist> Sonicadvance1: I'm using whatever driver Ubuntu installed automatically when I enabled Desktop Effect.  It's for nVidia, but when I run dpkg-reconfigure, it selects Vesa by default.. I have no clue which I really need.
[09:16] <meitar> I'm pretty sure I screwed up some configuration somewhere, but not sure what.
[09:17] <younghacker> right so your not addressed correctly or at worst check your wiring
[09:17] <doron> meitar, beats me.... sry...
[09:17] <TheCreationist> Sonicadvance1: I know in KDE there's a program that lets you detect the monitor and supported resolutions automatically.  Is there no such thing in Gnome?
[09:17] <bobsomebody> TheCreationist, you should not need to edit anything other than the xorg.conf
[09:17] <bobsomebody> unless you want dual head
[09:17] <Sonicadvance1> Have you tried selecting nvidia instead of vesa when doing reconfigure?
[09:17] <younghacker> that mask looks a little shady for a class a is it typed correctly? ,,, ((just guessing))
[09:17] <TheCreationist> Sonicadvance1: I was afraid to.  Ubuntu isn't very stable for me when I make unnecessary changes like that ;)
[09:17] <bobsomebody> oh and its nVidia?
[09:18] <TheCreationist> bobsomebody: How do I add the resolutions?  Do I need to space them out properly or any specific formatting?
[09:18] <bobsomebody> TheCreationist, make sure you backup xorg too, because if it crashes you need to reload it
[09:18] <TheCreationist> bobsomebody: Also, I'm not sure exactly all the resolutions this monitor supports, so to add them manually would basically be a guessing game for me.
[09:18] <Sonicadvance1> Lol, Not sure what you can do then besides manually editing the file, I have nvidia as my current driver and I had to run that command to get my 1680x1050 resolution and it ran fine afterwards
[09:19] <bobsomebody> TheCreationist, you will see a section called moniters, in there it will list resolutions, just add it to the front of the 3 resolutions there already and restart X
[09:19] <Lost-Mania> can someone help me about frostwire ?
[09:19] <bobsomebody> TheCreationist, pastebin your xorg ill edit it for u :)
[09:19] <sjoerd__> How van i make another partition my home mpa?
[09:19] <bobsomebody> or show u where to edit it
[09:19] <sjoerd__> How van i make another partition my home mpa?
[09:20] <bobsomebody> hey, anyone ever put ubuntu on the old dell insperon 1100's?
[09:20] <Ind[y] > In order for the service mysql to function properly, do I need to have enabled also, mysql-ndb and mysql-ndb-mgm?
[09:20] <bobsomebody> it keeps saying it found a scsi
[09:20] <bobsomebody> Ind[y] , i dont think so
[09:21] <djl> I am receiving this error when typing 'apt-get update'
[09:21] <djl> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:21] <djl> Reading package lists... Done
[09:21] <djl> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:21] <djl> any help?
[09:21] <omkar86> gnome seems slow on my system, wat are other good window managers?
[09:21] <djl> i am trying to install amap
[09:21] <bobsomebody> omkar86, try the KDE version?
[09:21] <Ind[y] > bobslaede: ok, thank you
[09:21] <mgedmin> omkar86: icewm is one
[09:21] <kitche> djl: seems like the security.ubuntu.com is broken right now
[09:21] <mgedmin> omkar86: or you might try Xfce
[09:21] <djl> suggestions?
[09:22] <bobsomebody> djl, amap?
[09:22] <bobsomebody> u mean LAMP?
[09:22] <James296> is it possible to remove all the selection borders when I click on buttons in Ubuntu? like the selection border that goes around each button I click
[09:22] <djl> bobsomebody
[09:22] <omkar86> ok
[09:22] <djl> no THC-AMAP
[09:22] <James296> anyone have any idea what Im talking about?
[09:22] <bobsomebody> oh
[09:22] <bobsomebody> never heard of it
[09:22] <djl> tool similar to NMAP
[09:22] <bobsomebody> James296, no clue
[09:22] <bobsomebody> oh
[09:23] <bobsomebody> djl, so u r trying to update thc-amap?
[09:23] <zachary> omkar86 KDE is another great window manager, you might like ICEWM if you have a low spec system also
[09:23] <Ominous> do you need a firewall on ubuntu?
[09:23] <James296> what I mean is, you know in Firefox, when you click a link, a rectangle selection border goes around the link you click?
[09:23] <wifenfeffer> hi, how do I make pam_usb work ?
[09:23] <bobsomebody> Ominous, YES, always define your IPTABLES
[09:23] <James296> I know you can remove that in Firefox using about:config
[09:23] <James296> but how can I remove it for everything else?
[09:23] <Ominous> what ports does "Networking" use?
[09:24] <djl> bobsomebody: i am trying to install it but THC-AMAP does not include the rpm just the source for compiling
[09:24] <pike_> Ominous: you have iptables but the rules arent set. the short answer is probably not. you can install firestarter though which is a gui front end to iptables
[09:24] <omkar86> where I can learn abt networking , various servers and their maintainance?
[09:24] <djl> i am trying to avoid installing the dependencies for gcc to compile it
[09:24] <James296> well?
[09:24] <bobsomebody> djl, your probably not going to get around that
[09:25] <bobsomebody> djl, but i could be wrong
[09:25] <RustySford> hey i'm back..the terminal failsafe didnt work it still says that x server appears to be running any other ideas? i'm on feisty that's probably why it's didn't work or something
[09:25] <djl> that stinks
[09:25] <djl> okay
[09:25] <djl> well the other issue is just updating
[09:25] <zachary> omkar86 try wikipedia
[09:25] <djl> i keep getting the "Could not download all repository indexes"
[09:25] <pike_> RustySford: after typeing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop it says x is still running?
[09:25] <bobsomebody> did you do sudo apt-get update *packname*
[09:26] <djl> tried...
[09:26] <zachary> Ominus what do you mean what ports?
[09:26] <djl> keep getting the gzip returned error code (1)
[09:27] <RustySford> bobsomebody: got it off the site. I got it running just need to stop the x server before the install helper can continue
[09:27] <pi3> hippie, I get the error "No package 'libwnck-1.0' found" when trying to compile awn, what can I do?
[09:27] <bobsomebody> Ominous, it really depends on the ports your computer is using, i think 8 and 10 are the only "default" ones, everything else you gotta add
[09:28] <bobsomebody> so can someone help me now? :P
[09:29] <bobsomebody> my install is failing on my laptop, Dell insperon 1100
[09:29] <bobsomebody> it says its finding a scsi disk, is this right?
[09:29] <bobsomebody> i dont think i have one in there, it also finds the hda
[09:29] <chadeldridge> when i plug my external USB drive it tells me i need to mount it in Windows twice in order to be able to use it in ubuntu ... i have no windows machines around and the force mount option doesnt work ... any ideas ?
[09:29] <bobsomebody> it starts defining sda (scsi 0) and just hangs forever
[09:30] <pi3> bobsomebody, have you formatted the partitions correctly?
[09:30] <bobsomebody> pi3: i cant even get to that part
[09:30] <Lost-Mania> bye everyone
[09:30] <pi3> use gparted, without installing
[09:30] <bobsomebody> pi3, i used the advanced options too see why the installer would not load
[09:30] <mgedmin> pi3: install libwnck0-dev or something like that; apt-cache search should help you find the name of the -dev package
[09:30] <pi3> system>admin>gparted
[09:30] <bobsomebody> pi3, busybox loads up and finds a scsi, thats the prob i think
[09:31] <bobsomebody> pi3, i do not get to the liveCD desktop at all
[09:31] <llllllll> how do I uninstall a program I've compiled and installed myself? Is it apt-get uninstall xxx or something?
[09:31] <pike_> llllllll: alas, no
[09:31] <pi3> bobsomebody, oh.. no idea
[09:32] <chadeldridge> llllllll:  if you didnt install it from a package and compiled it yourself .. you have to delete it yourself ... apt-get is only for packages
[09:32] <bobsomebody> i always get the anomalous computer issues
[09:32] <slasher> I'm having a bit of a problem, I have the latest fglrx drivers, xgl-server, and beryl installed and working but dri doesn't work under xgl, only under the regular gnome session. I have an x1300 if it matters. is there a way to fix dri?
[09:32] <nfs> looking for a program to capture sounds played from my sound card..any suggestions? o r a way to configure it through terminal code?
[09:32] <llllllll> chadeldridge: bugger. What does that entail?
[09:32] <ryan8403> how can I force ubuntu to recognize my bluetooth card...it used to see it...i turned it off in xp then removed xp before I turned bluetooth back on
[09:33] <Sonicadvance1> Oi, I'm installing Ubuntu again with the root on one drive and /home on another, last time I tried this, it didn't work and now I'm getting error 22 from Grub, in the advanced section, how do I know if (hd0) is correct?
[09:33] <bobsomebody> ryan8403, search the user wikii for your bluetooth vard?
[09:33] <chadeldridge> IIIII:  searching through your drive and killing the files unfortunatelly.  do you know where it installed ... hopefully its in your ~\ directory and you can just delete it .. otherwise you are gonna be searchin for it
[09:33] <bobsomebody> *card not vard :P
[09:33] <chadeldridge> when i plug my external USB drive it tells me i need to mount it in Windows twice in order to be able to use it in ubuntu ... i have no windows machines around and the force mount option doesnt work ... any ideas ?
[09:33] <baghyay> i have know ( xp + fiesty )  how  can i reinstall xp without lose my ubuntu
[09:34] <baghyay> i have now ( xp + fiesty )  how  can i reinstall xp without lose my ubuntu
[09:34] <mgedmin> chadeldridge: do you know if your drive is formatted as FAT or as NTFS?
[09:34] <ryan8403> bobsomebody, a little but I haven't seen anything about it, the card is a built in dell bluetooth
[09:34] <bobsomebody> chadeldridge, you are probably going to need the USB driver for the drive or something like that
[09:34] <pike_> !mbr | baghyay
[09:34] <ubotu> baghyay: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:34] <chadeldridge> baghyay:  you can reinstall xp using the repair option in xp .. you will have to boot the live cd again to fix grub though
[09:34] <llllllll> ok then. Cheers
[09:34] <chadeldridge> mgedmin:  its ntfs and i have already used ntfsfix and it returns normal
[09:34] <bobsomebody> brb
[09:34] <mgedmin> chadeldridge: I think that message might mean the the filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, and Linux cannot access it until Windows does some magic
[09:35] <chadeldridge> mgedmin:  yep .. sure does, i let a friend use my external drive and he just unpluged it
[09:35] <mgedmin> I think you're out of luck, unless you can find some linux too to replay the ntfs journal or whatever
[09:35] <sam_> quit
[09:35] <mgedmin> s/too/tool/
[09:35] <chadeldridge> argh .. so find a windows box and plug it in then
[09:35] <mgedmin> yay, unbuntu installation is complete
[09:36] <slasher> no one knows of the dri issue?
[09:37] <bobsomebody> back
[09:38] <bobsomebody> ryan8403, try googleing for your cards chipset, use lspci to find what it is
[09:38] <bobsomebody> ryan8403, search for something like chipset + linux || ubuntu
[09:38] <SecretAgentQ> SecretAgentQ: Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:38] <RustySford> hmmm no luck
[09:38] <SecretAgentQ> Jamesinator: Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:38] <shwouchk> hi
[09:39] <Jamesinator> Urgh, a bot?
[09:39] <ryan8403> bobsomebody, thanks I'll give it a go and see what I can fined
[09:39] <ryan8403> *find
[09:39] <bobsomebody> gl :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <RustySford> I even hit ctrl+alt+f1 and tried to do it from there
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <shwouchk> for some reason, I dont have pidgin in my list of apps in synaptic - only gaim, is that normal?
[09:39] <bobsomebody> bot
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :-$
[09:39] <Sonicadvance1> wtf
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> Sam330: Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:39] <Neil-> what?
[09:39] <Jamesinator> shwouchk: I think pidgin is the former name of GAIM
[09:39] <Anlar> broken script
[09:39] <Anlar> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> Anlar: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <llllllll> So basically, uninstalling a program I've compiled myself consists of searching and deleting all the files manually? I don't need to do anything other than that to return my computer to how it was before the installation?
[09:39] <Jamesinator> !ops
[09:39] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <RustySford> still says x server appers to be running
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> ferronica_: Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <SecretAgentQ> bobsomebody: DON'T USE THAT SMILEY. use :-$
[09:39] <bobsomebody> :)
[09:39] <Anlar> :)
[09:39] <shwouchk> Jamesinator: gaim is the former name of pidgin
[09:39] <bobsomebody> haha
[09:39] <bobsomebody> error
[09:39] <Neil-> wtf is going on
[09:40] <RustySford> it actually says AN x server and I need to stop x before I can continue
[09:40] <Sonicadvance1> gah
[09:40] <RustySford> maybe it's not the same as xserver?
[09:40] <Jamesinator> Thanks.
[09:40] <RustySford> yeah it says just I need to stop x
[09:40] <bobsomebody> RustySford, are u in Gnome?
[09:40] <Sam330> What is this all about? Somone trying to sam the l33test IRC channel around?
[09:40] <eternalswd> Neil-, a bot invaded the channel
[09:40] <RustySford> yeah
[09:40] <Neil-> lol
[09:40] <RustySford> feisty
[09:40] <slugicide> How do I add a program to the start menu and make it the default program (Azureus)?
[09:40] <RustySford> thinking that's why it's not working
[09:40] <RustySford> might need to do something differently
[09:40] <kman_> hello, how can I tell feisty to use piix.ko as ide module instead of ata_piix.ko (I want to disable libata)
[09:40] <bobsomebody> RustySford, um.... you need to get out of x somehow
[09:40] <surviver> anyone can say me how i can resize my desktop icons there to big?
[09:40] <RustySford> lol
[09:41] <bobsomebody> RustySford, did you check the user docs? on the wiki?
[09:41] <Jamesinator> surviver, right click and select "Stretch icon"
[09:41] <RustySford> yep
[09:41] <bobsomebody> that *should* be there
[09:41] <bobsomebody> hmmm
[09:41] <surviver> jamesinator, thx
[09:41] <bobsomebody> RustySford, the only way i know how to get out of X is to crash xorg on purpouse :)
[09:41] <RustySford> that's where it said to hit ctrl+alt f1 and did that...went to stright unix and it still says I apper to be running x
[09:42] <bobsomebody> RustySford, well if ur in Gnome, x is running
[09:42] <RustySford> bobsomebody: will that cause the computer to get pissed and reboot?
[09:42] <shwouchk> for some reason, I dont have pidgin in my list of apps in synaptic - only gaim, is that normal?
[09:42] <RustySford> right but I exited to the bare neccities where nothing was running but unix screen and it still says it
[09:42] <bobsomebody> RustySford, not at all, just change the driver name or something stupid like that and save it, then reboot
[09:43] <pike_> llllllll: i dunno but maybe you could dpkg -b directory packagename.deb where directory is the where you ran make then you could install and remove it. i havent used debian packaging much
[09:43] <bobsomebody> x will fail and it will drop you into command prompt and it will kill gdm so x wont load
[09:43] <bobsomebody> then you change it back, save it, do what you need to, then reboot
[09:43] <RustySford> and then I have to terminal to the file and rename it back then wont I
[09:43] <RustySford> guess it's not that big a deal
[09:43] <B-rabbit> hi everybody,i am new to ubuntu,and i was just wondering that if i could watch videos on youtube if i loaded up XP using VMware?
[09:44] <joeamined> hi, i'm having a problem with rhythmbox that can't retrieve songs lyrics and amsn that tells me my webcam is behind a firewall (i opened the necessary ports in my router). I didn't have those problems before !
[09:44] <bobsomebody> RustySford, well if you can get to terminal you just need to kill the task
[09:44] <CrazySpaz666> B-Rabbit: no need to load xp in vmware
[09:44] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[09:44] <bobsomebody> RustySford, use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[09:44] <bobsomebody> and....
[09:44] <shwouchk> for some reason, I dont have pidgin in my list of apps in synaptic - only gaim, is that normal?
[09:44] <bobsomebody> god whats the other one
[09:44] <RustySford> bobsomebody: did that already.....same result
[09:45] <bobsomebody> i think its X11
[09:45] <bobsomebody> X11 stop maybe
[09:45] <bobsomebody> hang on let me check something
[09:45] <joeamined> can someone help me please
[09:45] <bobsomebody> roe_ roe_ roe_ ur boat
[09:45] <RustySford> k
[09:45] <bobsomebody> :P
[09:45] <roe_> gently down the stream
[09:45] <CrazySpaz666> B-Rabbit: read this http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html stuff to do on ubuntu once you've installed
[09:46] <RustySford> if I kill xsession manager maybe that will work.....lets find out
[09:46] <B-rabbit> CrazySpaz666:thank you
[09:46] <CrazySpaz666> no probs
[09:46] <bobsomebody> RustySford, try killing xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[09:47] <nitro4ce> how do you change the nautilus skin?
[09:47] <RustySford> well that's a fast way to logout
[09:47] <nitro4ce> i have the redhat-artwork
[09:47] <bobsomebody> RustySford, try killing xserver-xorg-input-wacom and x11-common
[09:47] <RustySford> any luck finding what you were looking for bobsomebody
[09:47] <bobsomebody> yes ^ look up ^
[09:48] <bobsomebody> you might be able to kill all three in terminal from gnome
[09:48] <bobsomebody> it might drop u into terminal then
[09:48] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[09:49] <rdvon> How come whenever I reboot my system my wireless card doesnt work? I'm using ndiswrapper.
[09:49] <RustySford> so then the command is sude /etc/init.d/gdm stop xserver-xorg-input-wacom and x11-common or what exactly?
[09:49] <shwouchk> for some reason, I dont have pidgin in my apt - only gaim... why?
[09:49] <RustySford> sudo*
[09:49] <rdvon> ndiswrapper says that the wireless card driver is present and installed.
[09:49] <rdvon> but my wireless card isnt being used.
[09:49] <rdvon> How do i turn my wireless card on than?
[09:50] <rdvon> !wireless
[09:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <bobsomebody> RustySford, do each one individually just like gdm
[09:50] <bobsomebody> the order shouldnt matter at all, i dont think
[09:50] <dromer> hmm, I'm trying to chroot into this disk, but I keep getting: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied  what's up with that?
[09:50] <lyn1> my links to SMB shares take forever to start ... i double click and wait 10 mins before i get a screen
[09:50] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[09:51] <psycose> hi
[09:51] <lyn1> dromer:  try to sudo chroot
[09:51] <psycose> how could i install gcc-4.2 on feisty thanks
[09:51] <bobsomebody> dromer, try sudo chroot
[09:51] <dromer> lyn1: I did, also tried it after sudo -i
[09:51] <Ominous> argh how do you make windows network computers show up with firestarter? ( dced after i asked it a sec ago)
[09:52] <shwouchk> how do I change my apt servers to gusty?
[09:52] <dromer> bobsomebody: I did
[09:52] <bobsomebody> Ominous, do you have samba up?
[09:52] <lyn1> Anyone know what would cause windows shares to take so long to open in ubuntu ?
[09:52] <Ominous> samba?
[09:52] <bobsomebody> dromer, drop into root
[09:52] <shwouchk> how do I upgrade to gusty?
[09:53] <Lunar_Lamp> !wireless
[09:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:53] <bobsomebody> Ominous, yes, samba is the SMB networking package for linux, it allows linux and windows to network smoothly
[09:53] <dromer> bobsomebody: did it, same error
[09:53] <rich__> hi all
[09:53] <bobsomebody> hmmmm
[09:53] <bobsomebody> dromer, thats fukken strange
[09:53] <bobsomebody> rename chroot
[09:53] <dromer> yeah, never got that before ..
[09:53] <dromer> rename chroot?
[09:53] <bobsomebody> this way it wont flag it
[09:53] <bobsomebody> yeah
[09:54] <dromer> bobsomebody: I'm not sure how to use that ..
[09:54] <bobsomebody> just find the chroot file, should be in a /bin or /sbin folder somewhere
[09:55] <bobsomebody> then rename it to something else
[09:55] <bobsomebody> oh, copy it
[09:55] <bobsomebody> then rename the copy, sorry
[09:55] <ci_omegadog> hi, where is the online ubuntu server book
[09:55] <bobsomebody> this way you dont trash anything
[09:55] <ci_omegadog> i've googled it, and i can not find it
[09:55] <ci_omegadog> it's all amazon, sams, oreilly
[09:55] <bobsomebody> ci_omegadog, which one?
[09:55] <rich__> does anyone know if the wifi 'on' button at the front of an asus laptop can be programmed?
[09:55] <RustySford> grrrr. this sucks
[09:55] <bobsomebody> no luck?
[09:56] <ci_omegadog> i thought there was an official ubuntu server book put out by the distro
[09:56] <rich__> I was wondering if it directly interfaces with the card or the motherboard
[09:56] <krux> Q. is apache2-ssl-certificate suppose to be inside the apache2 package ?? or is there another package ???. I need to install ?
[09:56] <ci_omegadog> that had an online edition
[09:56] <shwouchk> how do I upgrade to gusty?
[09:56] <JC_Denton_> when can we expect monodevelop 0.14 on the ubuntu repository?
[09:56] <RustySford> no luck just to be sure the commands were...sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common stop and sudo /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg-input-wacom stop
[09:56] <bobsomebody> ci_omegadog, they have the wiki, thats about all i found
[09:56] <bobsomebody> if you beat on limewire some PDF books might fall out :)
[09:56] <RustySford> took both of them but didn't seem to do much
[09:56] <bobsomebody> WINK WINK!
[09:57] <RustySford> still says x is running maybe nvidia is just stupid
[09:57] <dromer> bobsomebody: nope, after rename .. same error
[09:57] <bobsomebody> dromer, im at a loss then
[09:57] <pike_> RustySford: well does ps -A show X running?
[09:57] <RustySford> I don't even know if it will work. just seems like 1024x768 is a bit low
[09:57] <dromer> gah, maybe try reboot then :(
[09:57] <bobsomebody> RustySford, is that all your trying to do? just up the screen res?
[09:58] <ci_omegadog> yeah, i could do pdfchm, but i thought there was a guide
[09:58] <ci_omegadog> provided by the distro
[09:58] <bobsomebody> RustySford, go pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:58] <ci_omegadog> am i wrong
[09:58] <ci_omegadog> ?
[09:58] <bobsomebody> ci_omegadog, not that i know of, check ubuntu.com, im sure they would advertise it if they make one
[09:58] <RustySford> well xorg is running
[09:58] <RustySford> but even after I run that stop command it still is
[09:59] <bobsomebody> kill the task
[09:59] <RustySford> bodsomebody: yeah I'm at max for the defalut ones
[09:59] <bobsomebody> find the PID number next to it
[09:59] <B-rabbit> does anny one know the comman that you have to type to login as root in terminal from a normal account?
[09:59] <bobsomebody> and kill *PID*
[09:59] <RustySford> it's not in the task list I had to use that command pike gave
[09:59] <bobsomebody> B-rabbit: just use sudo its safer
[09:59] <RustySford> it has ttyl7 as a note on it
[09:59] <RustySford> or next to the name
[09:59] <bobsomebody> sudo *command name* *options*
[09:59] <nfs> looking for a program to capture sounds played from my sound card..any suggestions? o r a way to configure it through terminal code?
[10:00] <RustySford> tty*
[10:00] <bobsomebody> nah, it should be a number
[10:00] <grunt> greetings from a distant galaxy...
[10:00] <RustySford> hang on I'll pastebin
[10:00] <bobsomebody> RustySford, that was 4 u ^
[10:00] <grunt> England in fact
[10:00] <Synapsi> I've got a matrox marvel g450 etv graphic board and I can't go over 800x600 resolution: how to have a classix 1024x768?
[10:01] <bobsomebody> Synapsi, edit /etc/xorg.conf
[10:01] <rich__> have you tried editing xorg.conf with the new graphics mode you want Synapsi?
[10:02] <B-rabbit> bobsomebody: mate, i typed in this "fahmid@redsparrow:~$ sudo root password"
[10:02] <Synapsi> now that I know,I'll try
[10:02] <bobsomebody> no
[10:02] <Synapsi> thanks for it
[10:02] <B-rabbit> and it comes up with"password:"
[10:02] <rich__> Maybe the limiting factor is your monitor?
[10:02] <RustySford> um bobsomebody: if you meant to type sudo Xorg options it gave me a "fatal server error" and that's all
[10:02] <bobsomebody> B-rabbit, what you need to do is use sudo to run the command as root
[10:02] <sel> RustySford: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    then    killall -9 gdm
[10:02] <grunt> hmm I used to use Microsoft 2.1 back in 1989 and cobol before that. Linux is slightly different to Unix
[10:02] <Jhnnie> 000
[10:02] <lyn1> my links to SMB shares take forever to start ... i double click and wait 10 mins before i get a screen ... any ideas?
[10:02] <mcscruff> lo all, how can i combine 2 avi files? eg vid1.avi + vid2.avi = vid.avi
[10:02] <Jhnnie> hey
[10:03] <hume> hi...i am trying to get tv out with nvidia proprietary drivers to work - i set res to 640x480 but the picture on TV is too high up - anyone knows how to adjust vert on svideo tvout?
[10:03] <rich__> mcscruff i did that yesterday
[10:03] <rich__> i used avidmux
[10:03] <kadakas> What can I use to make 3D models (the technical kind, doesnt have to be 100% autocad) ?
[10:03] <blackelf> mcscruff: buy the full pr0n on dvd
[10:03] <rich__> there is an append otpion
[10:03] <mcscruff> rich__, ty
[10:03] <kadakas> I used Solid Edge in my Windows years
[10:03] <Plusheviy_Tank> mcscruff use cat
[10:03] <blackelf> kadakas: wings3d perhaps
[10:03] <blackelf> kadakas: povray (scripting)
[10:03] <blackelf> kadakas:  blender
[10:03] <mcscruff> blackelf, not for porn this time, maybe next
[10:03] <grunt> hehehe
[10:03] <rich__> ;)
[10:04] <bobsomebody> i lol'ed
[10:04] <blackelf> !ohmy
[10:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:04] <rich__> not for a die hard 4 download is it? lol
[10:04] <RustySford> pid is 5101 bobsomebody sorry just saw that how do I kill a pid#?
[10:04] <mcscruff> no thats a cinima job
[10:04] <kadakas> I want to be able to quickly scetch a 3D model of a device or a piece of furniture to record it from my brain to a medium everyone else can view :p
[10:04] <valdas> anyone knows a keylogger for amd64?:)
[10:04] <RustySford> like I know the first part and stop but what do I put to have it do a pid
[10:04] <grunt> i thought porn was something made of fungi and sold as meat?
[10:04] <jo3_> what os valdas ?
[10:05] <rich__> go see it, its awesome
[10:05] <bobsomebody> sel, can u show RustySford that command again?
[10:05] <grunt> hang on - that's quorn - duh1
[10:05] <mcscruff> rich__, i thought about the cheeky d/l but i didnt want to ruin it, might go see it 2moro
[10:05] <Stormx2> RustySford: Killing a command via its pid? "kill 5101".
[10:05] <bobsomebody> RustySford, sel put a command up earlier
[10:05] <blackelf> kadakas: blender  wings3d
[10:05] <Stormx2> RustySford: or do you want something else?
[10:06] <kadakas> blackelf: Thank You :)
[10:06] <valdas> jo3: ubuntu 7.04
[10:06] <bobsomebody> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    then    killall -9 gdm
[10:06] <valdas> jo3: ubuntu 7.04
[10:06] <valdas> jo3: ubuntu 7.04
[10:06] <valdas> fuck
[10:06] <valdas> sorry
[10:06] <blackelf> is ubuntu legal in usa? I though communism isnt?
[10:06] <rich__> the special effects are a bit stunning... worth the cinema money
[10:06] <bobsomebody> it is
[10:06] <bobsomebody> im in USA
[10:06] <grunt> anyway I'm new
[10:06] <bobsomebody> dell sells ubuntu desktops too
[10:06] <PriceChild> blackelf, please don't troll...
[10:06] <valdas> jo3_: it ubuntu 7.04 amd64 .
[10:07] <bobsomebody> way from illegal
[10:07] <blackelf> PriceChild: shh
[10:07] <RustySford> hmm when I kill Xorg it just logs me out..sorta. brings me to the log in screen without actually loging out.....
[10:07] <kinections> what is the proper way of killing dhcp on ubuntu? is the only way through kill [pid] ?
[10:07] <RustySford> but even if I just try it under failsafe mode or just stright up black screen with working commands it still says x is running
[10:07] <grunt> Ubuntu is easier to use than Suse Linux Professional
[10:08] <RustySford> I think Nvidia is just dumb
[10:08] <grunt> :)
[10:08] <sel> RustySford: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    then    killall -9 gdm
[10:08] <grunt> Nvidia is the pits
[10:08] <rich__> whats the prob RustySford? Nvidia driver?
[10:08] <sel> sry was afk
[10:08] <RustySford> sel when I do the first command I get a blank screen and commands DON"T work
[10:08] <tic> How's nVidia coming along with their proprietary drivers w/ XRaR-1.2 support?
[10:08] <RustySford> none do
[10:08] <lyn1> my links to SMB shares take forever to start ... i double click and wait 10 mins before i get a screen
[10:09] <RustySford> well rich: yeah I got the ones ubuntu wanted to install but it only allows 1024x768 res
[10:09] <RustySford> my monitor is native 1600x1200
[10:09] <RustySford> so it makes it look like junk
[10:09] <sel> do that command from the [ctrl] +[alt] +[F1} csreen after you log in there
[10:09] <rich__> ah right
[10:09] <valdas> anyone knows a keylogger for Ubuntu 7.04 amd64 ?
[10:09] <rich__> are you using 16bits or 24?
[10:09] <grunt> I daren't try and get the nvidia D on mine as my sytem bites a bullet and disappears up its own ahem!
[10:09] <B-rabbit> i am really stuck everyone, after i type in "sudo" in terminal the "password" option come's up and sfter that i cunt type any thin else in....can any body help plzzz
[10:10] <blackelf> B-rabbit: ?
[10:10] <RustySford> trying to install the offical drivers from the site..got the package from them but when I run the command to install it, it brings up the install helper like its supposed to...but it tell me "you appear to have X server running. Please disable x before continuing"
[10:10] <Jamesinator> B-rabbit: Yes, you can, the text is just hidden
[10:10] <bobsomebody> B-rabbit, the password is probably the same as ur users password
[10:10] <RustySford> and if I try to continue anyway it fails.
[10:10] <rich__> what command are you trying to run as root B-rabbit?
[10:10] <blackelf> B-rabbit: type the password and press enter (its hidden)
[10:10] <bobsomebody> oh, lmao
[10:10] <sel> yup
[10:10] <vicox> lol
[10:10] <RustySford> I'll pastebin the install log one minute maybe that would help
[10:11] <rich__> whats the model of the card?
[10:11] <bobsomebody> RustySford, pastebin xorg for me, let me see if i can up your resolution for you
[10:11] <ned__> out of curiosity, are there any good cl download managers other than wget
[10:11] <grunt> your password is the same that you first set up Ubuntu with
[10:11] <Enverex> RustySford, So do what it says, you need to close X first
[10:11] <ci_omegadog> is tcl installed by default on ubuntu?
[10:12] <RustySford> bobsomebody: sorry but what do you want again? not sure what you want
[10:12] <ci_omegadog> i can't seem to start tclsh
[10:12] <p> cant seems to get kopete on line
[10:12] <B-rabbit> thanx every one it worked!!
[10:12] <RustySford> what command I mean so many people it's hard to find a line from even 10 minutes ago
[10:12] <blackelf> B-rabbit: yey
[10:12] <grunt> its trying to get transparency I'm having problems with - emulating Vista without the trouble Vista makes for itself would be fine
[10:12] <Jamesinator> valdas: You can set up xmacrorec2 to record and append to a logfile at startup, but that's a hackish solution at best and I'm not sure if it works on amd64
[10:12] <kadakas> blackelf: Do you know any 3D modelers that are a bit more technical (like SolidWorks, Solid Edge and AutoCAD), where I could create objects via measures and export 2D drawings of my models? I want to use it only for technical stuff, not 3D graphics or cartoons :)
[10:13] <bobsomebody> RustySford, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:13] <blackelf> grunt: ubuntu is NOT windows
[10:13] <bobsomebody> RustySford, all you want is a higher resolution right?
[10:13] <blackelf> kadakas: I bet it is possible in blender
[10:13] <blackelf> more or les
[10:13] <RustySford> bobsomebody: right
[10:13] <kadakas> I'll investigate
[10:14] <RustySford> but under the screen resolution gui it only goes to 1024
[10:14] <grunt> I know - Don't want it to be Windows - so many holes in that system...
[10:14] <rich__> you might find if you post the model of the card someone else has written a guide to do it RustySford
[10:14] <RustySford> at 50 :( :( htz even
[10:14] <p> have installed ubuntu 7.04 but i cant seems to get my ubuntu kopete to be working online, can anyone help?
[10:14] <RustySford> it's a geforce fx5700
[10:14] <RustySford> standard linux fx driver
[10:14] <bobsomebody> RustySford, yeah, pastebin the xorg.conf file for me so i can have a look at it
[10:15] <bobsomebody> thats probably where your main issue is
[10:15] <grunt> cool I'll get info in next few days (i'm preparing for holiday to Blackpool) Hey we are being deluged with H2O I need an Ark
[10:15] <RustySford> sudo: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf: command not found
[10:15] <RustySford> sudo: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf: command not found
[10:15] <RustySford> sudo: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf: command not found
[10:15] <Synapsi> I've watched the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and it's fine:1024x768,but still I can't change the resolution to 1024x768
[10:15] <RustySford> sorry
[10:15] <RustySford> didn't mean to do that
[10:15] <flask-> is anyone here running compiz fusion with cube rotation?
[10:16] <RustySford> I forgot something didn't I
[10:16] <RustySford> wget or what ever
[10:16] <rich__> no
[10:16] <bobsomebody> no
[10:16] <rich__> you need to say you want to look/edit it
[10:16] <rich__> ad gedit in there
[10:16] <RustySford> that's the one
[10:16] <bobsomebody> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <bobsomebody> or vi or nano :)
[10:16] <grunt> on Ubuntu Forums i'm grommet
[10:16] <rich__> ;)
[10:17] <rich__> emacs?
[10:17] <lyn1> why dont you just go add the resolution you want to the xorg file ... its very simple .. or if you are using nvidia then just use the nvidia-settings applet
[10:17] <Synapsi> ok to change the xorf file,but how to apply that resolution?
[10:17] <grunt> cool I'll do that
[10:17] <grunt> Ta Rich
[10:17] <instabin> any one have ubuntu setup as a transparent proxy
[10:17] <kismet> Synapsi, use nvidia-settings (type that in terminal) like lyn1 said
[10:18] <bobgill1> What program can I use to load like 10 images and view a slideshow ?
[10:18] <Synapsi> even if it's a matrox?
[10:18] <d4rkmonkey> Does anyone know anything about Sunbird? I just finished installing and wanted to install the Google Calendar extension from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/sunbird/addon/4631 but I can't find a way to download the .xpi. When I click the install link in firefox, it tries to install it for firefox. In Sunbird, does anyone know how i can download the plugin?
[10:18] <kismet> Synapsi, no i thought you were asking regarding the nvidia
[10:18] <RustySford> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, I've been wanting to get my hands dirty with Ubuntu (which would be my first time switching to a linux distro), but I can't. The installation freezes before I can see the virtualization from memory. Does anyone know what is goign on?
[10:18] <lyn1> just add this under modes in Section "Screen"  Modes      "1920x1440" "1920x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:18] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[10:18] <RustySford> I do that...and the file is blank
[10:18] <lyn1> that should cover anything you are trying to do
[10:18] <d4rkmonkey> bobgill1, fspot has a slideshow feature
[10:18] <lyn1> the file cant be blank
[10:18] <RustySford> well it is
[10:19] <RustySford> I can imageshack it for ya if you want
[10:19] <lyn1> if your in X that is not possible
[10:19] <Synapsi> ok'I'm trying...but in the graphic application I can't change the actual resolution to what I'd like to have
[10:19] <ned__> d4rkmonkey: right-click on "install now" and click on "Save Link As..."
[10:19] <rich__> Hizzeh no i dont... cant you give any specifics regarding your hardware and the ubuntu version your trying to install?
[10:19] <kismet> RustySford, the characters are case sensitive :/
[10:19] <grunt> are there other servers other than Ubuntu of this IRC node?
[10:19] <lyn1> X11 not x11
[10:19] <d4rkmonkey> I'll try that ned__
[10:19] <RustySford> .....
[10:19] <RustySford> there we go
[10:19] <lyn1> :-D
[10:19] <RustySford> stupid case sensitive
[10:19] <kismet> :p
[10:19] <RustySford> "you're as funny as a case sensitive search engine"
[10:19] <d4rkmonkey> thanks ned__ I'm suprised I didn't think of that, I'm usually smarter
[10:19] <rich__> lol
[10:19] <lyn1> roffle
[10:20] <rich__> Desktop and desktop never gets old ;)
[10:20] <CppIsWeird> i right clicked on a drive that was automatically mounted and changed where it mounted to automatically, and i messed up the mount point, now every time i plug in that external drive, i get an error message, where do i go to undo what i did by right clicking and modifying the properties??
[10:20] <ned__> d4rkmonkey: no problem :) it's odd looking, but it's just a dressed up link
[10:20] <lyn1> anyone have a shotgun so i can put some holes in samba ... arrrgh
[10:20] <grunt> :-D smiles all round here cool
[10:20] <RustySford> 24-bit depth is the same as 32 right?
[10:20] <d4rkmonkey> yes RustySford
[10:20] <RustySford> just people want to sound cool
[10:20] <kismet> heh
[10:21] <d4rkmonkey> 32 bit is 24 bit and 8 alpha channels I think... thats why its just called 24bit in xorg
[10:21] <rich__> CppIsWeird, i dont know the 'proper' way to do it, but when i have done that i manually mount it and then delete the options.
[10:21] <lyn1> why ohh why must i communicate with windows machines ... makes my linux machine run like poo
[10:21] <d4rkmonkey> lol lyn1
[10:21] <kismet> i have vista installed on dual boot, haven't even installed the vga drivers :/
[10:21] <sean__> how can i make it so my nautilus link starts at / instead of /home/me
[10:21] <grunt> this mount/unmount seems to have a sexual connatation - well that's what my missus said
[10:22] <kismet> sean__, type gksudo nautilus from terminal, or press alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus
[10:22] <sean__> lol
[10:22] <grunt> doh
[10:22] <blackelf> how to have aptitude fallback to direct connection if proxy doestn work
[10:22] <Jamesinator> lyn1: I used to have that problem, but I fixed it by "sudo cp /media/hdb1/ ~/winstuff" and then booting into my Windows partition and typing "format C:" :D
[10:22] <Jamesinator> Buh-bye Windows
[10:22] <Synapsi> I've watched the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and it's fine:1024x768,but still I can't change the resolution to 1024x768, what to do?
[10:22] <rich__> CppIsWeird, you will need to unmount it first using umount
[10:22] <sean__> kismet: that starts it from /home/sean though, i want it to start at /
[10:23] <lyn1> haha .. well i have no windows on this box ... but i have to talk to an AD network that hates my linux box and just barely works with it ... takes 10 mins to launch samba shares some times
[10:23] <blackelf> is there something like ubuntu but not lam^H but more professional
[10:23] <kismet> sean__, if you type gksudo nautilus it won't start in /home/sean
[10:23] <ompaul> Synapsi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, when done restart gnome (log out and back in)
[10:23] <kismet> lyn1, vmware!! :p
[10:23] <Slart> is there an easy way to print the exit-code of the last program run in the terminal? anything easier than writing a small bash script with an if-then thingy?
[10:23] <lyn1> haha
[10:23] <RustySford> okay I tired to edit it myself but it's confusing to me I'll pastebin it now...wow it's taking a long time to upload. didn't know it was that big
[10:23] <lyn1> windows makes me hurt in my special place .. so no thanks
[10:23] <sean__> kismet: it starts at /root/
[10:23] <kismet> sean__, that is "/"
[10:23] <RustySford> or maybe the server is just busy
[10:24] <RustySford> I like windows cause I alrady have mastered it
[10:24] <sean__> kismet: no, because then all i see is a link to desktop, not all my folders within /
[10:24] <Jamesinator> lyn1: Put an ext3 partition on it with Ubuntu Server and install a SSH server. You can mount your windows partition, and use SSHFS on your local Ubuntu PC to mount your remote windows mountpoint.
[10:24] <rich__> MS havnt even mastered it
[10:24] <RustySford> dont need to go through junk like this just to do what I'm trying ot do
[10:24] <jabarkhan> Hello all
[10:24] <lyn1> jamesinator:  that is the hokyest thing i have ever heard ... crazy enough to actually be something i would try ... lol
[10:24] <RustySford> http://textpaste.net/5vvfp7
[10:25] <RustySford> pastebin was too busy.....was talking like wayy to long
[10:25] <Jamesinator> lyn1: Query me if you want help >:-D
[10:25] <preaction> RustySford: linux is like a newly-fixed lightswitch, you're used to the old broken lightswitch so when the new one works better you want the old broken one
[10:25] <kismet> sean__, if you want a particular location to be accessed, right click on the desktop and click on launcher. There under command put in nautilus "location here", without the quotes
[10:25] <RustySford> yeah but i never get messed on windows
[10:25] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[10:25] <wren> could anybody tell me how to reboot into a vga console without changing the default bootup?
[10:25] <RustySford> windows runs fine as long as the user doesn't do stupid things
[10:25] <rich__> no its more windows doing stupid things
[10:25] <RustySford> linux is nice cause it's hard to screw it up when messing around
[10:25] <jabarkhan> Looking for some help on setting up my webcam (MSI - Starcam 370i) on ubuntu 7.04 ?
[10:25] <preaction> wren: when grub shows up, hit Esc for the menu and choose "Safe mode"
[10:25] <kismet> wren, press alt+f2, or open terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:25] <RustySford> nope I disagree deeply
[10:25] <RustySford> my windows never has issues
[10:25] <Jamesinator> RustySford: A user not doing stupid things would mean not using Windows in the first place
[10:26] <wren> cool thanks
[10:26] <RustySford> cuase I've been using it since 3.1.1
[10:26] <preaction> !worksforme | RustySford
[10:26] <ubotu> RustySford: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:26] <preaction> !offtopic | RustySford
[10:26] <ubotu> RustySford: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:26] <rich__> i did a new install once, left it for 3 days with updates, came back and it was Oding on trojans
[10:26] <Sonicadvance1> I seem to be getting grub error 17 again
[10:26] <hume> anyone knows how to adjust vertically in tvout?
[10:26] <kismet> Sonicadvance1, unplug external drive and boot up
[10:26] <RustySford> hey tell that to the person that brought it up ubotu :-P
[10:26] <lyn1> RustySford:  Take where you see your other resolutions line ... the Mode line where you see like 1024 and all those .. and replace it with this     Modes      "1920x1440" "1920x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:26] <Kokosol1> hi
[10:27] <Sonicadvance1> I don't have an external drive plugged in
[10:27] <Jamesinator> !tell RustySford about windows
[10:27] <kismet> Sonicadvance1, hmm sorry then for me that used to be problem, hopefully someone in here can assist you
[10:27] <RustySford> k so the horizontal part will have like 6 sectoins instead of just the three lyn1?
[10:27] <lyn1> yar
[10:27] <sean__> kismet: thanks
[10:27] <Sonicadvance1> Beh
[10:27] <lyn1> just adds those resolutions to the "option list" basically
[10:28] <arjen_ubu> hey all
[10:28] <lyn1> right now your max resoution is set to 1024x768 it appears
[10:28] <RustySford> that's kinda what I thought
[10:28] <kismet> sean__, np
[10:28] <jabarkhan> Anybody able to help? kinda busy... i'll just sit and wait ;)
[10:28] <RustySford> but I thought that if i added more after the three it wouldn't read correctly
[10:28] <Toulouse> hey guys, when you start ubuntu, one of the first things that happens is a little applet starts conecting you to the internet, i seem to have lost that handy little tool, and can't find it, any help?
[10:28] <InterNut> I have one update avail, but when trying to download and apply it i get : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a. how can i fix this? Thanks
[10:28] <kismet> the beauty of linux is that there usually atleast 2 ways to get something done right
[10:28] <lyn1> nah .. mine has like 10
[10:28] <arjen_ubu> if i use the default packet manager to install software, i can't control where the software is installed can I? and where is it installed by default?
[10:28] <lyn1> im running at 1920 x 1280
[10:28] <Jamesinator> Toulouse: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[10:28] <Toulouse> k
[10:29] <preaction> arjen_ubu: you do not want to. why do you think you want to?
[10:29] <Paradoxx> how long does cannicol provide updates for versions of ubuntu?
[10:29] <bobgill2> What program can I use to load like 10 images and view a slideshow ?
[10:29] <lyn1> bobgill:  digikam will do that
[10:29] <kismet> Don't most of the applications under graphic do that? :/
[10:29] <lyn1> yar
[10:29] <ci_omegadog> Hello.  I see software that i need to install listed on the website sited as "UNIVERSE".  when I "apt-cache search tcl" only a fraction of that software shows up.  how do i get access to the UNIVERSE debs?
[10:30] <arjen_ubu> preaction: because i was under the impression software would go into my /home folder
[10:30] <Synapsi> nothing changed...
[10:30] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, I've been wanting to get my hands dirty with Ubuntu (which would be my first time switching to a linux distro), but I can't. The installation freezes before I can see the virtualization from memory. Does anyone know what is goign on? I tried both the 32 and 64 bit installations. I', running on an AMD 64 4400+ X2, 1900XT 512, and 2 gigs of ram. Any help would be majorly appreciated :D
[10:30] <Synapsi> still with this awful resolution
[10:30] <arjen_ubu> preaction: my root partition is only 10Gb and my /home partition is 100Gb
[10:30] <CppIsWeird> rich__, its not mounting because i mistyped the mount point, so every time i plug in the drive i get an error message about mounting, so where do i go to fix what it does automatically?
[10:30] <sean__> !sound
[10:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:30] <alecjw> hi. i jsut had a kernel panic and im trying to work out why. which log should i look in?
[10:30] <preaction> arjen_ubu: no. software is mostly installed into /usr, some is installed into /. it needs to be this way because of the directory structure
[10:30] <RustySford> http://textpaste.net/7bs6f1 this look good lyn1?
[10:31] <RustySford> dont need the others
[10:31] <brasko> I installed the 64 bit server version of ubuntu, if I copy 32 bit programs from redhat 7.1, when I go to run the program it says "No such file or directory", anyone know why?
[10:31] <RustySford> just wanna make sure before I save
[10:31] <brasko> If I run with 32 bit ubuntu server version, this works fine
[10:31] <arjen_ubu> preaction:  but /usr is in / right?
[10:31] <lyn1> looks functional yes
[10:31] <preaction> arjen_ubu: 10GB should be sufficient for most purposes, are you already butting up against the limit?
[10:31] <kismet> brasko, i am not sure if you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit installation
[10:31] <preaction> arjen_ubu: yes. / is root, /usr is the "usr" directory under / (which is root)
[10:31] <RustySford> k so now how do I get it to go up to 85Htz as max instead of 50?
[10:31] <jabarkhan> I need help setting up my webcam on ubuntu?
[10:32] <RustySford> i saw the limits for vert and hor but ummm don't wanna mess it up
[10:32] <brasko> kismet: why? it's normally ok to run 32 bit programs in a 64 bit environment, no?
[10:32] <lyn1> want me to post my xorg for you so you can get a look at it
[10:32] <brasko> I know with 64 bit hardware, you can install a complete 32 bit os
[10:32] <kismet> brasko, thats what i don't think it is :/
[10:32] <RustySford> suer lyn1
[10:32] <brasko> and you can run 32 bit programs
[10:32] <arjen_ubu> preaction: i wonder why the install recommended to make /home my biggest partition, since i want to try out mono/ecplise and i guess those apps are quite big
[10:32] <kismet> brasko, yes ofcourse i am running a 32bit installtion on a 64bit processor myself
[10:32] <brasko> and with gentoo 64 bit, I've run 64 bit programs, and natively compiled 32 bit programs
[10:33] <Jordan_U> kismet, brasko Yes you can run 32 bit programs in a 32 bit chroot
[10:33] <kismet> brasko, not too sure :/
[10:33] <RustySford> don't try to use pastebin right now they seem to be having problems at least for me they did
[10:33] <preaction> arjen_ubu: because for the most part you're putting all your music, videos, etc... into /home
[10:33] <Sonicadvance1> Screw this, I'm just going to install Ubuntu on one drive instead of splitting it up in to two
[10:33] <Jordan_U> !chroot | brasko
[10:33] <ubotu> brasko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:33] <lyn1> !paste
[10:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:33] <kismet> Jordan_U, you mean 32bit on 64bit, yes?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> kismet, Yes
[10:33] <brasko> really, why do I have to use chroot?
[10:33] <RustySford> yeah I know...it's taking forever to upload to right now at least from my location it was
[10:33] <toryl__> !ask | jabarkhan
[10:33] <Jordan_U> brasko, For some things you don't
[10:33] <RustySford> tha'ts why I used the other one
[10:33] <ubotu> jabarkhan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <Jordan_U> brasko, What are you trying to run?
[10:33] <arjen_ubu> preaction: well i have a seperate windows partition for that as well, which is also 100Gb ;)
[10:34] <brasko> Jordan_U: I made a simple hello world program on red hat 7.1, and it didn't work
[10:34] <Synapsi> why I have a properly configured xorg.conf file and can't set the resolution to 1024??
[10:34] <brasko> it gave me that error, same program with 32 bit ubuntu ran fine
[10:34] <lyn1> RustySford: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28266/
[10:34] <brasko> hello world (C++)
[10:34] <arjen_ubu> preaction: is it possible to split resize /home by lets say 50Gb and add it to /root?
[10:34] <Hizzeh> Hey guys, I've been wanting to get my hands dirty with Ubuntu (which would be my first time switching to a linux distro), but I can't. The installation freezes before I can see the virtualization from memory. Does anyone know what is goign on? I tried both the 32 and 64 bit installations. I', running on an AMD 64 4400+ X2, 1900XT 512, and 2 gigs of ram. Any help would be majorly appreciated :D
[10:34] <RustySford> oh nm
[10:34] <preaction> arjen_ubu: it may be possible to delete your /home partition and resize your / partition to include the new space.
[10:34] <RustySford> I misread what you scripted
[10:34] <jabarkhan> huh, How do i setup my webcam ? (MSI - 370i)
[10:34] <Paradoxx> How long after release are updates released for Ubuntu?
[10:34] <Jordan_U> Synapsi, What GPU ?
[10:34] <Paradoxx> !updates
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <lyn1> ha .. yeah i just couldnt remember the past site
[10:35] <PriceChild> Paradoxx, whenever there is a needed security patch or major bug fix
[10:35] <brasko> ouch, this is to much talk
[10:35] <Synapsi> matrox marvel g450 etv
[10:35] <blargas> hey, where does firefox keep its  profile info?
[10:35] <Synapsi> (does gpu stand for graphhic unit?)
[10:35] <preaction> Paradoxx: 5 years for LTS (dapper was last LTS release), 1 year for normal releases (fiesty was last normal release)
[10:35] <preaction> Synapsi: Graphics Processing Unit
[10:35] <Jordan_U> Synapsi, Yes, grpaphics processing unit
[10:35] <Paradoxx> PriceChild: I have read in several places, that versions updates, are provided for a specified number of time
[10:35] <rich__> Hizzeh are you using a pata harddrive?
[10:35] <RustySford> wow thanks lyn1: but my monitor max is 85 not 130 or whatever yours is so not to keep being a pain but what woudl I put to make absolutly sure it won't go over that and destroy it?
[10:35] <arjen_ubu> preaction: thanks for the info :) i guess my 10Gb will do for now but I might do that when I run out of room :) i have a bit of partition phobia, since i deleted my whole windows D: drive during my first ubuntu install :P
[10:35] <Synapsi> ok,so it's what I've told you jordan
[10:35] <Paradoxx> preaction: Thank you much
[10:36] <Saint_Belmont> !gpart
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <PriceChild> Paradoxx, ohhh sorry misread you
[10:36] <Hizzeh> Rich_ What is a pata hard drive?
[10:36] <RustySford> just the upper limits are all I really nead for both vert and hor
[10:36] <PriceChild> Paradoxx, preaction 18 months for normal releases...
[10:36] <lyn1> yeah .. just make 85 your max then .. my max is like 130
[10:36] <Hizzeh> The hard drive type I'm using is the..it starts with N
[10:36] <Hizzeh> I forget the name
[10:36] <RustySford> for both?
[10:36] <mortuis99> what is a GOOD HTML editor?
[10:36] <PriceChild> Paradoxx, and only 3 years for desktop software on feisty
[10:36] <PriceChild> Paradoxx, s/feisty/dapper/
[10:36] <Hizzeh> I'm not using RAID
[10:36] <lyn1> yes
[10:36] <Toulouse_> mortuis99: NvU
[10:36] <RustySford> or just horizontal
[10:36] <RustySford> k
[10:36] <rich__> http://www.directron.com/patasata.html
[10:36] <arjen_ubu> mortuis99: just for HTML or a general purpose text editor?
[10:37] <Toulouse_> hey guys, i downloaded an applet from the repo's but how do i get that applet onto my panel?
[10:37] <mortuis99> general purpose
[10:37] <rich__> there was a massive problem with pata just after fiesty was released
[10:37] <jabarkhan> LOL @ arjen_ubu - i almost screwed up the install aswell, but i managed to revover my windows.. took me 3 attempts to install, the other 2 found had a dodgy install cd
[10:37] <preaction> Toulouse_: right-click on the panel, choose "add to panel"
[10:37] <Toulouse_> b/c i cant find it in the add to panel list
[10:37] <Jordan_U> Toulouse_, right click a blank space in the panel, add to panel
[10:37] <Toulouse_> i cant find it in there
[10:37] <lyn1> RustySford: I am not positive .. but i dont thin that going over is an issue .. that is just the range in which it runs its probe for your screen
[10:37] <Saint_Belmont> Where can I find in depth instructions on using Gpart
[10:37] <InterNut> I have one update avail, but when trying to download and apply it i get : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a. how can i fix this? Thanks
[10:37] <preaction> Toulouse_: are you sure it's a panel applet and not a notification area program?
[10:37] <Hizzeh> If Im using PATA, does that restrict me from installing Ubuntu?
[10:37] <toryl__> Saint_Belmont: you mean gparted?
[10:37] <Toulouse_> it's network-manager-gnome
[10:37] <Hizzeh> and how do I check if I'm using PATA?
[10:37] <blargas> where does firefox keep its profile info?
[10:38] <preaction> blargas: ~/.firefox <- somewhere in there
[10:38] <RustySford> so I need to restart now to change it from the admin tools? or is there a terminal way to do it now
[10:38] <arjen_ubu> jabarkhan: at least I learned a lot from it, the thing i forgot was to set a label for my new partition, so it just overwrote the current one :)
[10:38] <Toulouse_> preaction: it's network-manager-gnome
[10:38] <lyn1> PATA or SATA ... makes no difference
[10:38] <mortuis99> im looking for something to do the links etc with
[10:38] <lyn1> RustySford: just do a full restart ..
[10:38] <preaction> Toulouse_: that's a notification area program. you'll need to run it. it probably shows up in the menu
[10:38] <RustySford> k
[10:38] <RustySford> thanks I'll come back and thanks again if it works :)
[10:38] <blargas> preaction: sorry, ive only been running linux for < 24h. where is that?
[10:38] <Synapsi> any other sugestion for my resoltuion issue?
[10:39] <rich__> either way, what sort of harddrive are you installing to?
[10:39] <preaction> blargas: ~ is your home directory, /home/<your username>
[10:39] <InterNut> blargas: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default
[10:39] <bronze> I have a question. I can read (but not weite) my NTFS drive. Is the performance equally good to windows XP's NTFS reading?
[10:39] <Hizzeh> How do I check, rich_? I'm currently in windows right now
[10:39] <Jordan_U> !fixres > Synapsi
[10:39] <blargas> sweet, guys. thanks
[10:39] <B-rabbit> hello has anybody ever used " Downloader for X " before?.....if yes the wat is it used to download? and can u download music with it
[10:39] <bronze> write*
[10:39] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | bronze
[10:39] <ubotu> bronze: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:39] <jabarkhan> arjen_ubu True, i did learn from my mistakes, and here i am got ubuntu installed, now trying to get some help to install my webcam
[10:39] <kismet> ntfs-3g is a massive resource hogg, btw.
[10:39] <rich__> Hizzeh, goto control panel ./ sytstem / device manager
[10:39] <blargas> i don't see it there...
[10:39] <InterNut> I have one update avail, but when trying to download and apply it i get : "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a." how can i fix this? Thanks
[10:39] <bronze> Jordan_U, I am wondering about the performance! Can I e.g. play games from it through wine?
[10:40] <Saint_Belmont> Well, is there any way to use some of my other partitions for Ubuntu, I filled the Partition Ubuntu is on.
[10:40] <InterNut> blargas: its a hidden folder
[10:40] <blargas> oh. do i need to use command line?
[10:40] <lyn1> bronze:  most games through wine are slow ... just depends what you wanna run
[10:40] <bobbob> i use cedega
[10:40] <InterNut> blargas: in terminal "ls -A" or in natilus press "ctrl-h"
[10:40] <mortuis99> !html
[10:40] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[10:40] <Jordan_U> bronze, I don't know, I don't use it myself, but I would assume so
[10:40] <rich__> Saint_Belmont you can enlarge the Ubuntu partition using the live cd if you have space to use
[10:40] <bobbob> paid for it then cancelled my subscription but it works rather well on some games
[10:40] <bronze> lyn1, counter-strike. It's not very slow because it uses OpenGL.
[10:40] <Hizzeh> HDT722525DLA380 ATA Device
[10:40] <Toulouse_> cedega doesnt seem that much better to me, but that's just me
[10:41] <bobbob> it depends on the game
[10:41] <intangir> i like cedega
[10:41] <intangir> both wine and cedega are good
[10:41] <Toulouse_> yeah
[10:41] <intangir> depends on the game
[10:41] <lyn1> bronze .. you would be fine then as long as the game can use openGL it will run about 85% of windows in wine
[10:41] <pike_> wine is not inherently slower than windows
[10:41] <bobbob> if it is a game they support then its good
[10:41] <blargas> great, i found it. thanks internut, preaction
[10:41] <Toulouse_> they're pretty good
[10:41] <bobbob> otherwise not any better
[10:41] <rich__> when the live cd boots use gparted
[10:41] <toryl__> Saint_Belmont: check the docs for gparted.
[10:41] <Hizzeh> gparted?
[10:41] <Hizzeh> what sthat?
[10:41] <rich__> it wqill show you if there is any unused space
[10:41] <Hizzeh> I have two hard drives, one if which is empty
[10:41] <Hizzeh> that's the one I tried to install ubuntu to
[10:41] <lyn1> Hizzeh:  gparted is a partition editor for linux
[10:41] <InterNut> blargas: np =)
[10:41] <Toulouse_> how do i get a notification area program to run???
[10:42] <rich__> wow u are lucky
[10:42] <Toulouse_> ive tried running it in terminal
[10:42] <Hizzeh> the last time I tried installing Ubuntu was back in december
[10:42] <Cvg> Sorry if i ask bad time, but i have tried to solve very long time a dri problem.
[10:42] <rich__> gparted works if you are not using the partition you are trying to edit / i.e it is not already mounted.
[10:42] <jabarkhan> OK, so i can't get my webcam installed, i have no idea how to install or set this up in ubuntu
[10:42] <slugicide> I'm lost w/o alacarte menu editor.  How do I add a program to the menu?
[10:43] <Jordan_U> !webcam | jabarkhan
[10:43] <rich__> gparted is the app used during ubuntu instalation
[10:43] <ubotu> jabarkhan: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:43] <Saint_Belmont> Well, windows is on the other partition which is 100 gigs. Ubuntu is on a 4 gig one.
[10:43] <lyn1> jabarkhan:  good luck ... webcam support in linux is spotty at best
[10:43] <jos1> i need help i installed ubuntu
[10:43] <jos1> and forgot the password
[10:43] <jos1> to my account so i cant log in
[10:43] <jos1> can anyone help
[10:43] <jabarkhan> Brillient, thanks for the info...
[10:43] <rich__> josl? no way? how long ago did you install?
[10:43] <RustySford> k so...that worked it's i the right reso when it gets to the login..but as soon as I log in it goes back and if I try to change it manually it crashes?
[10:44] <jos1> i installed like 20 mins ago
[10:44] <jos1> but i forgot the password i used
[10:44] <jos1> so
[10:44] <rich__> reinstall and remember the password
[10:44] <jos1> dangit
[10:44] <jos1> thats the only choice i have
[10:44] <jos1> ?
[10:44] <rich__> it will take longer to hack the os
[10:44] <toryl__> jos1: maybe here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html
[10:44] <Jordan_U> jos1, When you start up, press escape to see the grub menu, then choose recovery mode, when you are at a terminal run: passwd <username>
[10:44] <bobsomebody> lmao
[10:44] <Cvg> has anyone encountered this "Screen 0 is not dri capable" ? Sorry
[10:44] <slugicide> Can't he just use the live CD and change the file?
[10:44] <jos1> so do this
[10:44] <Hizzeh> Does it matter if I use a CD or a DVD to burn the iso to?
[10:44] <jos1> grub menu
[10:44] <Jordan_U> rich__, No hacking needed, just single user mode
[10:44] <jos1> passwd username
[10:44] <gaston_silva> maybe this will help recover your password: http://my.opera.com/Contrid/blog/show.dml/486617
[10:45] <RustySford> ah mn i got it
[10:45] <rich__> Jordan_U???
[10:45] <Jordan_U> rich__, Finding the password is near impossible, replacing it is easy as long as you have physical access to the machine
[10:45] <Sonicadvance1> Oi, anyone know if it's possible that when you have to LAN cards, to have one come from the router to get internet, and the other one has another computer/device attached to it to get internet to that device?
[10:45] <Hizzeh> Does it matter if I use a CD or a DVD to burn the iso to?
[10:45] <RustySford> had to disable screen effects...how ever 58 is the max refresh :(
[10:45] <anodesni> Hi. I'm setting up my remote with lirc for mythtv, but it's not working
[10:45] <anodesni>  when I use the commands $ sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start
[10:45] <anodesni>  $ irw
[10:45] <anodesni>  irw returns immediately, and gives you another command prompt
[10:45] <anodesni>  What should I do?
[10:45] <jos1> so what should i do?
[10:46] <RustySford> but my xorg still has 85 as the highest?
[10:46] <ci_omegadog> I see software that i need to install listed on the website sited as "UNIVERSE". when I "apt-cache search tcl" only a fraction of that software shows up. how do i get access to the UNIVERSE debs?
[10:46] <RustySford> maybe I need the exact range for it to work?
[10:46] <slugicide> How do I add apps to the menu?  I'm lost without alacarte.
[10:46] <RustySford> or does the vert need to always be higher then the horizontal
[10:46] <Jordan_U> jos1, When you start up, press escape to see the grub menu, then choose recovery mode, when you are at a terminal run: passwd <username>
[10:46] <RustySford> like proporional so It can work
[10:46] <drdub> I'm trying to install a wireless card - Netgear WG511 v2. I've installed NDISWrapper and driver but the card is still not working. Any suggestions?
[10:46] <jos1> i dont know the pwd though
[10:46] <TheCreationist> I just bought a 20-inch monitor and after upping the resolution, I can no longer use "Desktop Effects" because all the title bars disappear.  Anyone know how to remedy this?
[10:46] <jos1> or does that let me make a new user
[10:46] <anodesni> Hi. I'm setting up my remote with lirc for mythtv, but it's not working
[10:46] <anodesni>  when I use the commands $ sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start
[10:46] <anodesni>  $ irw
[10:46] <anodesni>  irw returns immediately, and gives you another command prompt
[10:46] <anodesni>  What should I do?
[10:46] <Hizzeh> Does it matter if I use a CD or a DVD to burn the iso to?
[10:47] <lalo> hola
[10:47] <Jordan_U> jos1, That will let you replace the old password with whatever you want
[10:47] <toryl__> !enter: anodesni
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter: anodesni - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <jos1> ooo ok thanks
[10:47] <jos1> so
[10:47] <jos1> passwd username
[10:47] <jos1> right
[10:47] <lalo> Bueno
[10:47] <toryl__> !enter | anodesni
[10:47] <RustySford> TheCreationist: I had this problem too...
[10:47] <ubotu> anodesni: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:47] <lalo> jajajaja
[10:47] <lalo> bye
[10:47] <Jordan_U> jos1, Yup
[10:47] <RustySford> seems to do it if you try to use the mouse wheel to change workspaces
[10:48] <RustySford> at least thats when it does it to me
[10:48] <RustySford> so anybody know about the vert and horizontal rates needing to be proportainal?
[10:48] <Pretto> hi folks
[10:49] <Pretto> i am having some problems here with fstab and mount options
[10:49] <Pretto> i mount a partition, it shows RW but i cant write on it... does anyone had that problem before?
[10:49] <Jordan_U> Pretto, NTFS?
[10:49] <Gokee2_Laptop> Is their a minamal CD for ubuntu and if so would it be any faster to download it and install that instead of downloading the whole livecd thing?
[10:49] <Pretto> Jordan_U, EXT3
[10:50] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Gokee2_Laptop
[10:50] <ubotu> Gokee2_Laptop: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:50] <Hizzeh> can Windows Vista successfully burn an image?
[10:50] <Hizzeh> IE a bootable disk?
[10:50] <slugicide> Is my question about how to add an app to the menu too newb for this channel?
[10:50] <Hizzeh> Im trying to create a live cd
[10:50] <Hizzeh> with the ISO
[10:50] <Hizzeh> also should I use a DVD or a CD?
[10:50] <hajhouse> Hizzeh: CD
[10:50] <Jordan_U> Hizzeh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:50] <Hizzeh> thanks
[10:51] <Pretto> Jordan_U, /dev/sda7 on /music type ext3 (rw)
[10:51] <Gokee2_Laptop> Jordan_U, Thanks :)
[10:51] <arjen_ubu> how to take a screenshot of my desktop?
[10:51] <Jordan_U> Pretto, Can you write to it as root?
[10:51] <Pretto> Jordan_U, but i cant write on it
[10:51] <jrib> arjen_ubu: press PrintScreen on your keyboard
[10:51] <Jordan_U> arjen_ubu, Press printscreen
[10:51] <Pretto> Jordan_U, yes
[10:51] <arjen_ubu> jrib: where is it saved?
[10:51] <jrib> arjen_ubu: it will ask you where you want to save it
[10:52] <arjen_ubu> jrib: thanks guys :)
[10:52] <Jordan_U> !permissions | Pretto
[10:52] <ubotu> Pretto: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:52] <filthpig> Hi
[10:52] <jrib> filthpig: welcome
[10:52] <Pretto> Jordan_U,  i did, but it changes it on mount
[10:52] <Pretto> Jordan_U, lemme show
[10:52] <slugicide> Alacarte seems to be gone.  How do I add an app to the menu?
[10:53] <dukedave> Here's one: Say I create a directory & then want to move everything in the parent directory into the new (child) directory. Issuing "$ mv ./* child/ " from the parent dies understandably because "mv: cannot move [name]  to a subdirectory of itself, ". Does anyone know a switch to say "Don't move the child"?
[10:53] <jrib> slugicide: alacarte should be installed by default and you can right click on the ubuntu icon and go to "edit menu"
[10:53] <Jordan_U> slugicide, run alacarte from a terminal / run dialog
[10:53] <sindre> what comand do i use to search for a folder?
[10:53] <slugicide> OK, thanks.
[10:53] <Pretto> Jordan_U,
[10:53] <jrib> sindre: locate  or  find -type d
[10:54] <sindre> thanks
[10:54] <InterNut> I have one update avail, but when trying to download and apply it i get : "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a." how can i fix this? Thanks
[10:54] <Pretto> Jordan_U, drwxrwxrwx   2 root root  4096 2007-07-02 13:43 music      ( before mount)
[10:54] <Synapsi> boys,this is my last though:ubuntu sucks...I'll try with fedora as resolution seems to be correct
[10:54] <filthpig> gigantomundo problemo ahoyo! I'm using Telenor ISP (in Norway) and they are quite bitchy.. Today I bought a wireless routermodem from those guys hoping to get rid of a few cables to my computer, but it seems Telenor is blocking anyone not using windows or macosx when connecting to their routermodem.. Can this be true?
[10:54] <Synapsi> thanks for your help anyway
[10:54] <Pretto> Jordan_U, after mount drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2007-07-02 17:51 music
[10:54] <sindre> filthpig:
[10:54] <justin420> hi all, anybody help with improving on read/writes for ubuntu edgy using an external firewire 400 drive?  I have 2 600GB external HD's both Seagate one is just a plain 500GB USB/Firewire HD; the other is one of their new FreeAgent PRO 500GB USB/Firewire HD's.  When one or the other is plugged in; everything works "better" but when both are plugged in sometimes I get I/O errors from my apps.  Both drives are plugged into a PCI usb/firewire card and I hav
[10:54] <justin420> e a 400w psu, so I dont think that the power is the issue? Anybody else experience this kind of strange behaviour?
[10:54] <jrib> InterNut: where does libmjpegtools0 come from?  It doesn't seem to be in ubuntu
[10:55] <sindre> speedtouch?
[10:55] <filthpig> In that case I'm quite beeped.. Neither wlan0 or eth0 can get me online through this new modem.. :/
[10:55] <kismet> could someone please remind where the location is for syaptics download files?
[10:55] <Stwange> any idea how i can install a flash plugin on an x86_64 architecture?
[10:55] <filthpig> sindre: ZyXEL Prestige 660HWT-3
[10:55] <jrib> kismet: /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[10:55] <InterNut> jrib: it shows up in the updater in my "tray"
[10:55] <kismet> jrib, thankies
[10:55] <Hizzeh> should I check "simulation" when I burn the image in Infrarecorder?
[10:55] <jrib> InterNut: what is the output of 'apt-cache policy libmjpegtools0' (use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[10:56] <sindre> filthpig: priv
[10:56] <jrib> Stwange: I like to use nsplugwrapper: http://www.janvitus.netsons.org/2007/01/15/nspluginwrapper-adobe-flash-player/
[10:56] <Pretto> any idea Jordan_U ?
[10:56] <Jordan_U> Pretto, no
[10:56] <Hizzeh> should I check "simulation" when I burn the image in Infrarecorder?
[10:56] <Stwange> jrib: thanks mate
[10:56] <filthpig> sindre: sure no prob
[10:57] <Pretto> anyone?
[10:57] <jrib> Stwange: the directions are in english if you scroll down btw
[10:57] <InterNut> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28268/
[10:57] <Stwange> jrib: thanks :) i did wonder at first
[10:57] <jrib> InterNut: get rid of http://www.debian-multimedia.org from your /etc/apt/sources.list .  Debian repos will break your box
[10:57] <InterNut> jrib: thanks, ill try that
[10:58] <tim_abell> does anyone know how to stop gnome asking for a password *every* time i close my laptop lid?
[10:58] <DarkED> hey is there an equalizer plugin for rhtyhmbox?
[10:58] <tim_abell> it's driving me nuts
[10:58] <scope006> i have a laptop with an ati card (x300) and i have Compiz + XGL running beautifully on the proprietary drivers.  Is there a good resource on how to launch an app or game in a separate X Session?  I didn't have a lot of luck googling this morning
[10:58] <tim_abell> can't find anything on teh interweb
[10:58] <CyD_> tim_abell, right click your battery icon, set it to do nothing on lid close instead of lock screen
[10:59] <ci_omegadog> For the record- to use UNIVERSE debs from apt-get, you need to change /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:59] <jrib> tim_abell: try the gconf keys in /apps/gnome-power-manager maybe (use gconf-editor)
[10:59] <CyD_> tim_abell, sorry, that's for kubuntu, but it shoudl be the same
[10:59] <CyD_> or not :)
[10:59] <tim_abell> hrm. hadn't tried that
[10:59] <tim_abell> certainly solves the stated problem!
[10:59] <filthpig> sindre: still there?
[10:59] <ci_omegadog> y'all could have saved me a half hour... or am i now the local king of apt-get :)
[10:59] <tim_abell> but i would still like the screen blanked
[10:59] <sindre> yeah
[11:00] <amorphous_> could anyone tell me the app name for the gnome gui user admin tool?
[11:00] <CyD_> tim_abell, the screen should blank because of powersaving, regardless
[11:00] <jrib> tim_abell: lock_on_blank_screen looks promising
[11:00] <justin420> ok, how about this one. does anybody have any experience with I/O errors with external firewire 400 HD's on ubuntu edgy? if so how did you go about solving the I/O errors?
[11:00] <jabarkhan> how do i remove programs i've installed? sudo ?
[11:00] <jrib> !apt > jabarkhan (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:00] <tim_abell> doesn't seem too
[11:00] <jrib> jabarkhan: you can also just use add/remove or system -> administration -> synaptic
[11:00] <InterNut> jrib: that did the trick, thanks a lot!
[11:01] <tim_abell> how do i respond to a particular person (in chatzilla)?
[11:01] <jrib> InterNut: np
[11:01] <filthpig> sindre: any ideas for my problem?
[11:01] <jrib> tim_abell: just prefix your response with their name
[11:01] <Jordan_U> tim_abell, Do you mean in a private message?
[11:01] <tim_abell> jrib: oh how cunning
[11:01] <jrib> !tab | tim_abell
[11:01] <ubotu> tim_abell: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:01] <jabarkhan> Ok, thats good, same as windows XP ;)
[11:01] <farstrider> Good evening all! I need help, I have a second drive in my box and every time I start the box and want to go into the drive it first of all insists on my admin password and then does not allow me to crate folders and put files there! It is just a secondary drive thats all! How the devil do I change this?
[11:02] <tim_abell> Jordan_U:  no, just what people have been doing in my direction :)
[11:02] <amorphous_> could anyone tell me the app name for the gnome gui user admin tool? I'm ssh'd into another machine so I have no desktop/menu's --- it's the 'users and groups' one in the menu, but (as ever) there's no indication of the app name :(
[11:02] <tim_abell> ubotu: nice
[11:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:02] <jrib> farstrider: what filesystem?
[11:02] <RustySford> ahh got it....looked up the specs of my monitor and it told me right there lol
[11:02] <jrib> tim_abell: heh, ubotu is a bot :)
[11:02] <farstrider> It on on my linux box (Ubuntu)
[11:03] <TheCreationist> I just bought a 20-inch monitor and after upping the resolution, I can no longer use "Desktop Effects" because all the title bars disappear.  Anyone know how to remedy this?
[11:03] <tim_abell> jrib: oh lol
[11:03] <jrib> amorphous_: users-admin
[11:03] <sindre> yeah... first i have to say that im not any good at linux:)... but solve problems with routers like that everyday:)...if u can use telnet (google it) to configure your zyxel that migth help... the webv user interface isnt any good at all...
[11:03] <arjen_ubu> TheCreationist: same happens to me, they are still experimental, they're not supposed to fully work yet
[11:03] <jrib> TheCreationist: try in #ubuntu-effects (if you use nvidia, the ubutnu wiki tells you a common problem that causes that)
[11:03] <farstrider> My box is on a network and can see NTFS File systems
[11:03] <arjen_ubu> TheCreationist: just use Ctrl-Alt Backspace to reload X
[11:04] <sindre> filthpig: yeah... first i have to say that im not any good at linux:)... but solve problems with routers like that everyday:)...if u can use telnet (google it) to configure your zyxel that migth help... the webv user interface isnt any good at all...
[11:04] <TheCreationist> arjen_ubu: Well, I only ask because it worked perfectly before changing resolutions.
[11:04] <TheCreationist> jrib: #ubuntu-effects is useless... there's never anyone paying attention there.  I've asked there a few times with zero response.
[11:04] <arjen_ubu> TheCreationist: just close any open applications before you reload though
[11:04] <amorphous_> jrib - thanks. you think i could find that anywhere??? maybe I should add to the wishlist app names easily available on all menus... think I'd have a chance? it would encourage/empower users...!
[11:04] <Gokee2_Laptop> Is a little over 3 gigs enough for ubuntu?
[11:05] <john`> ..
[11:05] <john`> yeah.
[11:05] <jrib> amorphous_: you can right click on the ubuntu icon and go to edit menus
[11:05] <Jordan_U> Gokee2_Laptop, If you don't install too much, yes
[11:05] <filthpig> sindre: http://itpro.no/supportforum/index.php?act=ST&f=53&t=47520 do you think this will help, or will it simply fck me up?
[11:06] <farstrider> Sorry I am going to put my question again!! I need help, I have a second drive in my box and every time I start the box and want to go into the drive it first of all insists on my admin password and then does not allow me to crate folders and put files there! It is just a secondary drive thats all! How the devil do I change this?
[11:06] <hays> is pidgin available for ubuntu feisty fawn?
[11:06] <Jordan_U> hays, Yes, from getdeb.org
[11:06] <hays> I don't see it in the package manager
[11:06] <Gokee2_Laptop> Jordan_U, Ok thanks
[11:06] <jrib> hays: no
[11:06] <TheCreationist> hays: Not officially until Gibon
[11:06] <Jordan_U> Gokee2_Laptop, np
[11:06] <tim_abell> jrib: i can't see the lock_on_blank_screen you mention, where's that?
[11:06] <xst> Has anyone tried to export a gallery to SimpleViewer from gwenview? When I try to watch the exported gallery it says "gallery not found". What to do?
[11:06] <jrib> tim_abell: did you open gconf-editor?
[11:07] <hypn0> Jordan_U: it .net :-)
[11:07] <arjen_ubu> hays: pigdin = GAIM, no?
[11:07] <amorphous_> jrib, Hmmm... does that show you the app name? (i'm not in gnome - only ssh-ing) - by the way - can I get an X session through ssh? I can run apps, but so far no session :( - remember trying but being defeated :(... is there an easy way, or is ita bit of a mission.?
[11:07] <hays> pidgin is the newest gaim yes
[11:07] <jabarkhan> alright, thanks for all your help guys/gals... really was helpful ;)
[11:07] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hello stupid question: how do I enter long directory names with space "My Files" in the console
[11:07] <Redhammer_the_Ol> I am trying to exclude some during tar
[11:07] <Redhammer_the_Ol> and it never seems to work
[11:07] <sindre> filthpig: that migth help... it wont fuck it up... the only thing u have to remember is that telenor runs pppoe.... and thats porbably not set by default in the firmware from zyxel
[11:07] <erUSUL> Redhammer_the_Ol: My\ Files
[11:07] <PriceChild> Redhammer_the_Ol, My\ Files
[11:07] <jabarkhan> Speak to u all again.. Take care and keep smiling
[11:08] <Jordan_U> farstrider, What file system?
[11:08] <jrib> amorphous_: it can, you can right click -> properties.  You can use vnc to get an actual session
[11:08] <d4rkmonkey> :D
[11:08] <Redhammer_the_Ol> thanks will try again
[11:08] <filthpig> sindre: yes it is
[11:08] <PriceChild> Redhammer_the_Ol, do the first few letters, then press <Tab> and it will try to autocomplete it
[11:08] <jrib> !vnc > amorphous_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:08] <arjen_ubu> PriceChild: do "..." work too? instead of using escape chars?
[11:08] <filthpig> sindre: I did that using the CD that followed the modem
[11:08] <PriceChild> arjen_ubu, true
[11:08] <filthpig> from windows, though
[11:08] <jrib> dukedave: you could use zsh... it's not stupid like that :)
[11:08] <amorphous_> Hmm... will have to try it later. Thanks jrib - once again saved from anxiety and despair by your good self ;)
[11:09] <bronze> What's the best distro if I want easy-to-set-up eye candy.
[11:09] <arjen_ubu> PriceChild: whatever works best for you ;)
[11:09] <farstrider> JordanU how do I tell I am not sure to be honest!!??
[11:09] <Sonicadvance1> I'm trying to route one LAN card's Connection to another, is it possible?
[11:09] <vip3rousmango> anyone know of a .flv movie file converter to like .avi or something playable
[11:09] <Jordan_U> farstrider, sudo fdisk -l
[11:09] <hypn0> bronze: maybe you should ask in #linux or somewhere :-)
[11:09] <matt1982> is there any really easy way to install the ati drivers?
[11:10] <matt1982> for ubuntu 7.04?
[11:10] <CommonAlgorithms> Have you guys heard of Wubi Installer?
[11:10] <sindre> filthpig: ok... its fucked up... telenor is always a bit dificult... but try to update the firmware... it migth help... but can u describe more exact what ur problem is?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> !ati | matt1982
[11:10] <ubotu> matt1982: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <bronze> matt1982, apt-get install ati-drivers
[11:10] <Jordan_U> farstrider, If it was created with windows it is most likely NTFS, if with Linux most likely ext3
[11:10] <tim_abell> jrib: ah i see it. haven't used gconf-editor b4
[11:10] <sam_> how do i write an iso to a cd?
[11:10] <CommonAlgorithms> anyone heard of Wubi Installer ?
[11:10] <d4rkmonkey> sam_, are you in Ubuntu now?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> sam_: as a cd image
[11:10] <Jordan_U> matt1982, yes, just go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[11:10] <john86> does ubuntu work on a8v deluxe?
[11:10] <matt1982> gnomefreak: cheers i think bronze has hit the nail though
[11:10] <jrib> dukedave: you would do:  mv *~child child     (though I think it should work anyway but just complain if you don't omit "child" explicitly (even in bash))
[11:10] <sam_> yes
[11:10] <sam_> i am in ubuntu
[11:11] <jrib> sam_: right click -> write to cd
[11:11] <tim_abell> jrib: still the same do i need to restart gnome?
[11:11] <d4rkmonkey> sam_,  just right click the .iso and select write to cd
[11:11] <sam_> i am running breezy and trying to update
[11:11] <jrib> tim_abell: no idea
[11:11] <gnomefreak> matt1982: use the restricted manager it should do it for you
[11:11] <matt1982> Jordan_U: ahh excellent
[11:11] <sam_> when i have downloaded the iso (almost done it) what do i do?
[11:11] <matt1982> Jordan_U: Thats done it
[11:11] <tim_abell> jrib: fair enough will try. thx for your help
[11:11] <arjen_ubu> how sophisticated is the built-in burn software in ubuntu, is it anywhere near apps like Nero for example?
[11:11] <filthpig> sindre: can we do it "in private"? :p To avoid things being lost in translation ;)
[11:11] <d4rkmonkey> sam_, I don't know much about breezy, but right clicking than choosing write to cd should work
[11:11] <Jordan_U> sam_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:11] <sindre> yep
[11:11] <sam_> ok
[11:11] <jrib> vip3rousmango: mplayer plays flv's (vlc too I believe).  You can use mencoder to convert .flv anyway if you still want
[11:11] <farstrider> Jordan U It say Linux system
[11:12] <sam_> thank you
[11:12] <jrib> arjen_ubu: k3b is pretty nice
[11:12] <dukedave> jrib: Thanks for the tip - and yes it does work I just don't like my shell nagging me ;)
[11:12] <hays> when is Gibon out and can I upgrade to it now and is it reasonable stable?  (Don't mind a few glitches)
[11:12] <farstrider> Jordan_U :
[11:12] <farstrider> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[11:12] <farstrider> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[11:12] <farstrider> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:12] <farstrider>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:12] <farstrider> /dev/hda1   *           1        9541    76638051   83  Linux
[11:12] <arjen_ubu> jrib: as long as it does the job i'm satisfied tho ;)
[11:12] <farstrider> /dev/hda2            9542        9729     1510110    5  Extended
[11:12] <farstrider> /dev/hda5            9542        9729     1510078+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:12] <farstrider> Disk /dev/hdb: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
[11:12] <etalli> flood
[11:12] <farstrider> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
[11:12] <farstrider> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:12] <farstrider>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:12] <sindre> filthpig: im in priv now
[11:12] <farstrider> /dev/hdb1               1        2434    19551073+  83  Linux
[11:12] <etalli> !ops
[11:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:12] <Jordan_U> !paste > farstrider
[11:12] <gnomefreak> etalli: ?
[11:12] <r0bby> do people read?
[11:13] <r0bby> :/
[11:13] <nixternal> thanks Jordan_U!
[11:13] <hays> farstrider: that was not cool.
[11:13] <RustySford> you know what? screw it..I can live with 58 Htz not like I play games on ubuntu anyway so it really doesn't matter I guess. at least my resolution is fixed thatnks to those who helped
[11:13] <gnomefreak> farstrider: please use pastebin
[11:13] <jrib> hays: october
[11:13] <etalli> gnomefreak: ?
[11:13] <farstrider> Sorry
[11:13] <d4rkmonkey> !paste | farstrider
[11:13] <ubotu> farstrider: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> etalli: you called ops but i saw it
[11:13] <hays> jrib: can I test it now?  If so, is it completely broken or usable?
[11:13] <farstrider> A rookie my appologies
[11:13] <jrib> hays: I'd recommend using it in a vm if you want to play with it
[11:13] <Ominous> argh having trouble installing beryl
[11:13] <tim_abell> jrib: nice one. works a treat after a ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:13] <hays> (e.g. debian has 'testing' and 'unstable')
[11:13] <etalli> gnomefreak: sorry.
[11:14] <jrib> hays: join me in #ubuntu+1 if you are interested
[11:14] <jakobbg> I'm considering upgrading my fully working feisty to gutsy gibbon - is it possible by merely changing sources.list or is it best to download the cd image?
[11:14] <hays> jrib: funny you should say that.. my existing ubuntu is in a vm. :)
[11:14] <Jordan_U> jakobbg, Are you ready for your entire hard drive to be hosed?
[11:14] <jakobbg> Jordan_U: by no means :)
[11:15] <John2> whats the command to look at computer statistics? like cpu, ram, etc.. equivalent to windows right click properties in my computer
[11:15] <Jordan_U> jakobbg, Then you shouldn't use Gutsy
[11:15] <XAPBob> top
[11:15] <gregorygreg> hey guys
[11:15] <jakobbg> Jordan_U: then I won't - but why is that?
[11:15] <John2> is top the only one?
[11:15] <CommonAlgorithms> anyone heard of Wubi installer?
[11:15] <POL9> Entrez le texte ici...YES ME
[11:15] <gregorygreg> what does it mean when I try to open g++ and it gives me the error "no input files"?
[11:15] <XAPBob> cat /meminfo
[11:15] <XAPBob> ps
[11:15] <Jordan_U> jakobbg, It is not even in Beta yet, anything can happen
[11:15] <XAPBob> man ps is always a good start
[11:15] <filthpig1> sindre: I'm trying to write to you in priv, but you don't answer :s
[11:16] <POL9> it's an exe for windowz
[11:16] <jakobbg> Jordan_U: ok :)
[11:16] <sindre> filthpig
[11:16] <sindre> he
[11:16] <John2> i just tried cat /meminfo
[11:16] <sindre> same prob her
[11:16] <John2> doesn't work
[11:16] <d4rkmonkey> Has anyone here have a working Lightscribe drive in Ubuntu?
[11:16] <jakobbg> it's my work-laptop, won't take that risk
[11:16] <santims> any way install the 32bit version of ubuntu without losing all of my stuff that is on my 64 bit install?
[11:16] <POL9> reality it's an exe of ubuntu in windowz
[11:16] <gregorygreg> what does it mean when I try to open g++ and it gives me the error "no input files"?
[11:16] <XAPBob> sorry - cat /proc/meminfo, alcohol doesn't ,ix with keyboard
[11:16] <POL9> forbidden question :)
[11:16] <etalli> gregorygreg:  after you type g++ you need to type the name of the file you want to compile
[11:16] <santims> 64 bit is really becoming anoying
[11:16] <filthpig1> sindre, do you have a msn-account?
[11:17] <etalli> gregorygreg: for example:  g++ main.cpp
[11:17] <gregorygreg> etalli what if I want to create a new project?
[11:17] <gregorygreg> that's all?
[11:17] <sindre> sindre@newevents.no
[11:18] <timtux> bah, just have to ask. just apt-getted php & apache. Seems like php is compiled with support for exif, however, just for jpeg and tiff.
[11:18] <filthpig1> added
[11:18] <arjen_ubu> can anyone recommend a good Ubuntu book?
[11:18] <etalli> gregorygreg:  I am afraid that you misunderstand the point of g++.  It is just a compiler, so you have to write all of the c++ in a text editor, then compile it
[11:18] <POL9> WHAT's the difference betwen the dvd and cd ubuntu version THANKS
[11:18] <d4rkmonkey> Does anyone here have a working lightscribe drive in Feisty? I emailed tech support, and I was told to download software here: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/pse/ but right now it says its pre-release and I think thats only for labling. I need drivers for Ubuntu to let me even read disks from the drive, I can't even manually mount the drive right now
[11:18] <jrib> POL9: dvd has all of the main and restricted repositories
[11:18] <gregorygreg> oh okay
[11:18] <etalli> to create a new project, you just make a new folder
[11:18] <etalli> :)
[11:19] <gregorygreg> thanks
[11:19] <gregorygreg> um
[11:19] <santims> any way install the 32bit version of ubuntu without losing all of my stuff that is on my 64 bit install?
[11:19] <etalli> no problem
[11:19] <d4rkmonkey> Does anyone here have a working lightscribe drive in Feisty? I emailed tech support, and I was told to download software here: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/pse/ but right now it says its pre-release and I think thats only for labling. I need drivers for Ubuntu to let me even read disks from the drive, I can't even manually mount the drive right now
[11:19] <gregorygreg> there are programs that provide support for all of that right?
[11:19] <jrib> santims: make backups before reinstalling
[11:19] <kmaynard> santims, what stuff
[11:19] <gregorygreg> like an IDE?
[11:19] <santims> jrib:  thats the only way?
[11:19] <pike_> santims: you can tar /etc/ and /home but other than that.. i dunno
[11:19] <farstrider> Jordan_U are you still prepared to give me help or is that it, or should I post my question again? Thanks anyway!
[11:19] <santims> kmaynard:  stuff like my mp3's and other stuff i downloaded
[11:19] <kmaynard> santims, save everything in /home, re-install
[11:20] <etalli> hold on
[11:20] <kmaynard> santims, i keep /home on its own partition...makes re-installs easier
[11:20] <d4rkmonkey> Does anyone here have a working lightscribe drive in Feisty? I emailed tech support, and I was told to download software here: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/pse/ but right now it says its pre-release and I think thats only for labling. I need drivers for Ubuntu to let me even read disks from the drive, I can't even manually mount the drive right now
[11:20] <Jordan_U> farstrider, I actually have to leave right now, sorry I forgot about your question though :(
[11:20] <farstrider> Ok Thanks
[11:20] <santims> kmaynard:  is there any way to partition the drive to get it on its own partition without having to format?
[11:20] <arjen_ubu> d4rkmonkey: stop asking the same question over and over again
[11:20] <tim_abell> jrib: thanks for your help. would you like a link to anything in my blog post?
[11:21] <CommonAlgorithms> Could I install Ubuntu on a external hard drive?
[11:21] <tim_abell> jrib: http://timwise.blogspot.com/
[11:21] <d4rkmonkey> lol arjen_ubu I'm just trying to see if I can get somone's attention :( I guess not
[11:21] <Marfi> CommonAlgorithms, yes
[11:21] <kmaynard> santims, look into gparted
[11:21] <CommonAlgorithms> Marfi: how?
[11:21] <pike_> !install > CommonAlgorithms
[11:21] <hypn0> gregorygreg: anjuta is for c I think, is g++ c :-/
[11:21] <Dark_Nation> Hi there, I was just wondering something:
[11:21] <Dark_Nation> I just got an older laptop
[11:21] <Marfi> CommonAlgorithms, when you install it, just set it to install to the external hard drive
[11:21] <pike_> CommonAlgorithms: that first link has a number of options
[11:21] <gregorygreg> hypn0 it is c++
[11:21] <arjen_ubu> d4rkmonkey: i would reply if i could answer your question but unfortunately I do not
[11:22] <gregorygreg> I am just looking to get into some basic programming
[11:22] <Dark_Nation> and I was wondering if you could tell me if Ubuntu would install fine on it.
[11:22] <santims> thanks kmaynard
[11:22] <d4rkmonkey> arjen_ubu, yeah... it kinda sucks that EVERYTHING on this laptop works except for the CD drive, took me a while to get past xorg too :(
[11:22] <hypn0> gregorygreg: I think that it manages projects too
[11:22] <d4rkmonkey> Dark_Nation, run the live CD
[11:22] <gregorygreg> do you think c or c++ would be better?
[11:22] <nyc-h0st> guys is there a way to probe and list all my hard drives
[11:22] <d4rkmonkey> Dark_Nation, it should work fine, depends on the exact laptop you have
[11:22] <nyc-h0st> i know there are 2 sata drives
[11:22] <nyc-h0st> but only 1 is mounted
[11:22] <Dark_Nation> Specs are: Has WinXP home, 256MBs RAM, 1.2GHZ CPU, a "Vix C3".
[11:22] <caner_> my keyboard layout became arabic and i cant fix it could someone please help???
[11:22] <arjen_ubu> d4rkmonkey: i had problems with my screen resolution, but that was fixed quite quickly
[11:22] <nyc-h0st> i need to make sure the second is up and running
[11:22] <pike_> nyc-h0st: sudo fdisk -l    did you want something more than that?
[11:23] <Dark_Nation> I
[11:23] <Dark_Nation> I
[11:23] <hypn0> gregorygreg: I use lazarus, much easier for me :-)
[11:23] <JasonAllen> sup everyone
[11:23] <Dark_Nation> I'm downloading the Live CD right now
[11:23] <etalli> gregorygreg:  I have no experience with C, however C++ has proven acceptable for all of my purposes
[11:23] <d4rkmonkey> arjen_ubu, I couldn't start up into graphical for a while..
[11:23] <nyc-h0st> pike_ that was great, thanks
[11:23] <d4rkmonkey> Dark_Nation, Ubuntu should run smoothly on it if it can handle win XP, my other comp is old and has much worse specs than that, but Ubuntu still runs fine on that
[11:23] <gregorygreg> what is the difference between c++ and c? is c++ just a newer incarnation?
[11:23] <santims> how large should my /home partition be?
[11:23] <arjen_ubu> speaking of C and C++, is the linux kernel written in C or C++?
[11:23] <tsmithe> C
[11:24] <preaction> kernel is in C, C++ is supposed to be C with native OO
[11:24] <Marfi> does anyone know if there is a version of VMware for OSX based operating systems?
[11:24] <etalli> as for your other question, KDevelop, although for KDE, works well.  Other then that, you could do a search under Add/Remove Programs
[11:24] <preaction> Marfi: parallels works very nice under OSX
[11:24] <arjen_ubu> C and C++ arevery different
[11:24] <nyc-h0st> c++ is a lot of smoke and overhead for lazy people
[11:24] <JasonAllen> arjen_ubu: C, i think
[11:24] <farstrider> I have tired to ask the question a few times now here is hoping for better luck this time! I have a second drive in my box and every time I start the box and want to go into the drive it first of all insists on my admin password and then does not allow me to crate folders and put files there! It is just a secondary drive thats all! How do I change this and I know that there is a means of accessing the drive using the terminal but I h
[11:24] <farstrider> ave forgotten how to do this?
[11:24] <christian_> yf
[11:24] <Dark_Nation> Alright, sounds good. Thanks for the quick answer
[11:24] <arjen_ubu> they have different philosophies behind them
[11:24] <arjen_ubu> C++ is not officially a superset of C
[11:24] <gregorygreg> hm
[11:24] <Marfi> let me rephrase that: im running ubuntu now, running mac osx in vmware. is there a version of vmware that i can install under the mac os?
[11:25] <JasonAllen> arjen_ubu: not totally helpful, but http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3141/analyses/latest
[11:25] <Madsy> Marfi: http://www.vmware.com/company/news/releases/mac.html
[11:25] <justin420> anybody have any experience with I/O errors and external firewire 400 HD's using edgy? when i have one drive plugged in it works almost if not perfect, but when it comes to 2 drives i get I/O errors?
[11:25] <nedw> when i boot ubuntu to install it on my dell inspiron 6000, it shows the graphical startup, then plays the ubuntu login sound, shows a blank gnome splash bar for a while, then my screen turns black. what should i do?
[11:25] <arjen_ubu> JasonAllen: thank you
[11:25] <d4rkmonkey> nedw, try the alternate CD
[11:25] <scope006> startx -- :1 will start a new X session in which you can run games/apps outside of a XGL/Compiz environment.  just an FYI if anyone else had the same question I did.
[11:25] <nedw> d4rkmonkey, thanks for returning the support favor :) i'll try it out
[11:26] <pike_> nedw: alt-ctrl-f2 login then sudo adduser  then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and see if the new user can login ok. if they can its a simple profile issue
[11:26] <arjen_ubu> gregorygreg: if you are going to learn you will learn the basics of C as well
[11:26] <d4rkmonkey> nedw, no problem, with my laptop the live CD wouldn't boot so I had to use the alternate but still had to configure a bunch of xorg things after
[11:26] <gregorygreg> oh okay
[11:26] <Marfi> Madsy, does that let me use a virtual machine of osx reasonably?
[11:26] <pike_> nedw: ah sorry didn reality you were on livecd
[11:26] <arjen_ubu> gregorygreg: *learn C++
[11:26] <d4rkmonkey> pike_, he said he was booting off of the CD to install.
[11:26] <nedw> d4rkmonkey: i'll be ready for the x stuff
[11:27] <nedw> pike_, it's ok
[11:27] <jrib> tim_abell: glad it worked, no need for a link, thanks
[11:27] <arjen_ubu> gregorygreg: it's how i started out, i tried some C++ tutorials
[11:27] <d4rkmonkey> nedw, ok
[11:27] <gregorygreg> is the documentation that comes with ubuntu any good?
[11:27] <telejedi> marfi: do you have sda2=os-x - sda3=ubuntu
[11:27] <gregorygreg> arien *
[11:27] <tim_abell> jrib: documented: http://timwise.blogspot.com/2007/07/ubuntu-screen-locking.html
[11:27] <gregorygreg> I'm guessing it is
[11:27] <gregorygreg> ha
[11:27] <arjen_ubu> gregorygreg: it's quite comprehensive yes
[11:27] <Marfi> telejedi, osx is installed inside of ubuntu. running osx ontop of ubuntu
[11:27] <JasonAllen> gregorygreg: ubuntu probably has the the biggest documentation effort on the web out of any distro
[11:28] <arjen_ubu> gregorygreg: the wiki is often more up to date then the official docs
[11:28] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[11:28] <gregorygreg> yeah I know they are privately funded just for that purpose
[11:28] <JasonAllen> gregorygreg: one of the reasons I use it...
[11:28] <etalli> gregorygreg, and if it's not good enough, the Wiki is great!
[11:28] <arjen_ubu> !wiki
[11:28] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[11:28] <gregorygreg> oh true
[11:29] <arjen_ubu> does ext3 ever need defragging by the way?
[11:29] <telejedi> marfi: is there a way to run mac osx, which is on another partition inside ubuntu, with vmware ?
[11:29] <arjen_ubu> since i havent seen any such software in the default ubuntu distro
[11:29] <caner_> my keyboard layout became arabic and i cant fix it could someone please help???
[11:29] <Marfi> telejedi, theoretically yes
[11:30] <d4rkmonkey> caner, I forget exactly how, give me a second and I'll see if I can find out
[11:30] <arjen_ubu> caner_: System > Preferences > Keyboard
[11:30] <d4rkmonkey> arjen_ubu, got it I guess
[11:30] <telejedi> marfi: that means: i can try this with vmware ?!
[11:30] <arjen_ubu> d4rkmonkey: \o/
[11:30] <h4wk0> caner_: System > Preferences > Keyboard
[11:31] <h4wk0> did somone beat me to it :(
[11:31] <d4rkmonkey> yeah
[11:31] <d4rkmonkey> lol
[11:31] <Marfi> telejedi, im running ubuntu and mac osx at the same time, on a non-mac
[11:31] <arjen_ubu> h4wk0: sorry :)
[11:31] <shwouchk> what was the name of the app that was kinda like amarok, but for gnome? some undead name...
[11:31] <John2> does anyone know a program to capture videos from a video camera, i have an old camera that use tape instead but it can do s-video out, is there a program in ubuntu that can caputer video in that tape and record it to the hardrive?
[11:31] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[11:31] <fuzzy_logic> Marfi, how did you do that??
[11:31] <etalli> Marfi:  You've gotta let me in on this trick.  Running Mac OS X on a PC??
[11:32] <fuzzy_logic> shwouchk: rythmbox?
[11:32] <arjen_ubu> does ext3 ever need defragging by the way?
[11:32] <d4rkmonkey> shwouchk, banshee?
[11:32] <John2> anyone know?
[11:32] <arjen_ubu> since i havent seen any such software in the default ubuntu distro
[11:32] <shwouchk> fuzzy_logic: is rythmbox related in any way to undead? DUH
[11:32] <shwouchk> d4rkmonkey: thanks man
[11:32] <newuser00> can ubuntu get viruses through wine if it is run as root? or would they still be confined to wine, and be removed if it is uninstalled?
[11:32] <fuzzy_logic> shwnouchk: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[11:33] <shwouchk> fuzzy_logic: thanks though :P
[11:33] <Marfi> etalli, fuzzy_logic, search bittorrent for deadmoo vmware image
[11:33] <John2> does anyone know of such program?
[11:33] <caner_> e4wk0 , arjen_ubu : unfortunately syst>pref>keyb>layout doest work, it is english there but when i write it prints arabic from right to left :(. how can i fix it pls help?????
[11:33] <etalli> deadmoo, eh?  I should check that out.  Is it legal? :)
[11:33] <shwouchk> fuzzy_logic: if you can please autocomplete my nic, cause otherwise its hard to notice the messages in this high traffic
[11:33] <snipereye> hi all
[11:33] <arjen_ubu> caner_: when did that start to happen?
[11:34] <d4rkmonkey> Does anyone know if running Vista in VM Ware will put a huge strain on my system? I want to set up windows in VM ware if I really NEED a program, (don't really want to have to use it) and I'm just wondering if it would be bad to go with Vista
[11:34] <shwouchk> fuzzy_logic: dell 1370 if Im not mistaken... bcm43xx underneath
[11:34] <snipereye> I'm new to Linux world
[11:34] <caner_> h4wk0 , arjen_ubu : but it is o.k in firefox address bar (?) so i am writing there and copying to chat here :)
[11:34] <John2> does anyone know a program to capture videos from a video camera, i have an old camera that use tape instead but it can do s-video out, is there a program in ubuntu that can caputer video in that tape and record it to the hardrive?
[11:34] <Marfi> etalli, fuzzy_logic, it runs laggy, which is why i want to get vmware-tools installed for it. =)
[11:34] <shwouchk> fuzzy_logic: using ndiswrapper (native driver doesnt connect at all)
[11:34] <nyc-h0st> is there a quick way to mirror partitions from one drive to another, just the partition tables not the actual data?
[11:35] <nyc-h0st> i'm looking into setting up a software raid and i have like 6 partitions dont want to do each one by hand
[11:35] <arjen_ubu> caner_: hmm....any idea what might have caused this? your changed anything related to keyboard settings?
[11:35] <pike_> John2: if you can play it you can use mplayer to capture it
[11:35] <bslote> So I have a machine with 2 hard drives in it. I'm able to mount the 2nd one as a regular user, but I'm not able to write to it as a regular user. What should I do to get regular users to be able to write to it?
[11:35] <Marfi> nyc-h0st, are they the same drive?
[11:35] <caner_> h4wk0 , arjen_ubu may it be the system encoding ??
[11:36] <snipereye> does anyone knows if there's a fix for the cube-switch Bug?? please
[11:36] <Ominous> hmm in wow on ubuntu my fps is about 30% of what it was on windows, any preformance tips
[11:36] <nyc-h0st> Marfi if you mean size/speed yes
[11:36] <pike_> John2: vlc might also be a solution
[11:36] <nyc-h0st> and here is a kicker this is a live system
[11:36] <nyc-h0st> so i want to set this up as smooth as possible
[11:36] <Marfi> Ominous, are you running it with -opengl?
[11:36] <John2> where is the capture option in mplayer?
[11:36] <d4rkmonkey> Ominous, o_O maybe its something to do with your graphics card? My FPS went up like 200% when I switched to Ubuntu
[11:36] <arjen_ubu> caner_: could be, i cant tell
[11:36] <Marfi> same for me
[11:36] <Ethan> dumpt stream something -> man
[11:37] <John2> and how can it just capture with an s-video out cable?
[11:37] <shwouchk> for some reason I cant connect to wireless networks via networkmanager - my nic associates but I never get the IP - and if I run dhclient, my connection is set (although networkmanager still thinks its not...) what could cause this?
[11:37] <newuser00> can ubuntu get viruses through wine if it is run as root? or would they still be confined to wine, and be removed if it is uninstalled?
[11:37] <shavex> so i am installing Ruckus Player on ubuntu using Crossover pro... it gets an error that i cant update windows media player... i have windows media player installed using crossover, so whats the problem
[11:37] <arjen_ubu> snipereye: i have the exact same, i hope it gets fixed soon cuz i liked the feature, very cool
[11:37] <PriceChild> newuser00, yes
[11:37] <PriceChild> newuser00, never run wine as root
[11:37] <Marfi> nyc-h0st, are they one physical drive, or multiple drives?
[11:37] <PriceChild> newuser00, use root for system maintenance and _nothing_ else.
[11:37] <MrXorg> !snort
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <d4rkmonkey> why would you need to run wine as root anyways?
[11:38] <mattrepl> is there anyway to upgrade (6.06 -> 6.10, in this case) from the CL?  would like to run update-manager without a GUI
[11:38] <mrunagi> can anyone explain to me why when you disable the desktop effects and re enable them the desktop cube doesnt work?
[11:38] <caner_> arjen_ubu : i dont know what they are but i must have pressed a key combination. i was writing a text today. i rebooted many times but it didnt work
[11:38] <MrXorg> can anyone help me compile mysql with snort?
[11:38] <d4rkmonkey> mrunagi, isn't there another option in desktop effects for the cube?
[11:38] <d4rkmonkey> mrunagi, make sure that is checked, then try?
[11:38] <mrunagi> yes and with it selected it still doesnt work
[11:38] <timtux> Fatal error: Call to undefined function imagecreatefrompng() in /var/www/index.php on line 3.... what do do? What pkg is needed? Or is a recompile of php needed?
[11:38] <nyc-h0st> Marfi i want to mirror physical drive X to physical drive Y which are identical devices
[11:38] <snipereye> arjen_ubu: Thanks, I hope they fix it soon, i've never had the chance to try it :/
[11:38] <newuser00> PriceChild som1 told me to run wine as root when i asked for help to run a program with it and i didnt know it was dangerous >.<
[11:38] <d4rkmonkey> mrunagi, :S no idea then.
[11:39] <PriceChild> newuser00, well never do anything unless you know you understand it. Especially when it means using sudo
[11:39] <arjen_ubu> caner_: you can try this System > Administration > Language
[11:39] <arjen_ubu> *Language Support
[11:39] <Zaki> hi
[11:40] <etalli> Hi
[11:40] <Zaki> mp3, dvd, multimedia:   ubuntu  vs.  fedora ?
[11:40] <MrXorg> IDS anyone?
[11:40] <John2> i guess i can use Kino to capture,  but how do i set it up?
[11:40] <santims> can someone help me partition a drive with gparted?  i cant use any of the options
[11:40] <John2> anyone know?
[11:40] <d4rkmonkey> santims, what do you mean you can't use any of the options?
[11:40] <santims> d4rkmonkey:  they are all greyed out....it is the main and only drive on the computer though
[11:41] <Ominous> Marfi: yes
[11:41] <d4rkmonkey> santims, I'll see if I can help then, give me a bit to do some research
[11:41] <Stwange> can anyone tell me where I can find the repository for nspluginwrapper - is this it: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/SPECS/nspluginwrapper/ ?
[11:41] <santims> i want to create a /home partition or whatever it is
[11:41] <MenZa> Stwange: I'm guessing no, as it's on the Mandriva website.
[11:42] <Stwange> good point
[11:42] <etalli> What are the benifits to having a separate /home partition?
[11:42] <vox754> santims, you cannot partition your current drive as it is mounted, or in use. Use a Live CD to partition.
[11:42] <Stwange> what should I be looking for, .deb?
[11:42] <snipereye> is there a version of Maya or Max to run on linux? or there's only Blender?
[11:42] <xarann> will ubuntu bork up if i resize the swap partition from 500 to 400mb
[11:42] <newuser00> PriceChild: thanx... i sure wont from now on =/ btw if im using synaptic (sudo is necessary for it) will my computer be vulnerable to attack for the 15 mins that sudo lasts?
[11:42] <pike_> Stwange: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs will have some info on ndiswrapper if that is your question
[11:42] <snipereye> is it even possible to run Max through Wine??
[11:42] <etalli> snipereye:  not a native one.
[11:42] <pike_> xarann: ubuntu doesnt much care about the swap partition :)
[11:43] <MenZa> snipereye: look at http://appdb.winqhe.com
[11:43] <MenZa> snipereye: look at http://appdb.winqhq.com
[11:43] <Stwange> sorry not ndiswrapper, nspluginwrapper for flash
[11:43] <MenZa> not winehq.com*
[11:43] <santims> vox754:  thank you, is it a straightforward way to do it or is ther some sort of faq i should read up on first?
[11:43] <d4rkmonkey> santims, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/faq.php ?
[11:43] <PriceChild> newuser00, if you let someone else at the keyboard yes
[11:43] <pike_> xarann: you can add or remove em on the fly. type sudo -i then swap and hit tab a few times for the swap* commands
[11:43] <snipereye> thanks MenZa
[11:43] <vip3rousmango> Anyone have experiance installing Starcraft/Broodwar with WINE? I just installed it yet, wine shows no icons in its "start" menu. Anyone have this problem?
[11:43] <MenZa> snipereye: np
[11:44] <newuser00> PriceChild hehehe of course :P but not from the internet?
[11:44] <vox754> santims, it is very easy to do it. Just clicks and buttons.
[11:44] <PriceChild> newuser00, nope
[11:44] <vip3rousmango> And when I try to play the whole screen is used, but it only runs in the like top corner in like 800x600
[11:44] <santims> vox754: thank you ill be back soon hopefully
[11:44] <newuser00> PriceChild: thank you =)
[11:44] <vox754> santims, I have a few images if you care to see them.
[11:45] <xarann> alright thanks pike
[11:45] <XB0y> how can i see the display picture (in gaim instant messenger) of the other chat user that i talk
[11:45] <chrisjs169> I can't seem to play DVDs on Kubuntu - I get the following (Includes error from kaffeine, as well as from /var/log/messages): http://pastebin.ca/600473
[11:45] <zaggynl> vip3rousmango, that's the right behaviour, try poking around with wine options, there are some desktop settings, or you could change your resolution to 800x600
[11:45] <santims> vox754:  that would be great...i still need to find my live cd anyay
[11:45] <arjen_ubu> PriceChild: does the ext3 filesystem need defragging, since i cant seem to find any kind of defragging tool
[11:45] <vip3rousmango> zaggynl: where are WINE's options? how to I get to those?
[11:45] <bur[n] er> !dvd | chrisjs169
[11:45] <ubotu> chrisjs169: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:46] <vip3rousmango> zaggynl: how to I launch the game if there is no icon?? I own it, and the cd is in the drive..
[11:46] <vox754> santims, http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1108/part011vg8.png
[11:46] <aboutblank> do Ubuntu *need* a swap partition to boot? I'm either going to make a RAID 1, or RAID 0 software array for swap OR I'm going to not use RAID and set multiple partitons with the same priority. If I use RAID 0 and one drive dies, will Ubuntu boot w/o a swap file?
[11:46] <PriceChild> !defrag | arjen_ubu
[11:46] <ubotu> arjen_ubu: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[11:46] <bobsomebody> i need a ubuntu guru
[11:46] <bobsomebody> who here rules the most?
[11:47] <PriceChild> bobsomebody, just ask your question
[11:47] <pike_> aboutblank: you can boot without swap
[11:47] <bobsomebody> im having trouble installing desktop 7.04 on a dell inspiron 1100 notebook
[11:47] <bobsomebody> it finds a scsi and hangs
[11:47] <pike_> aboutblank: you can either make a swap partition or a swap file if you want later
[11:47] <zaggynl> vip3rousmango, winecfg for wine options (in a terminal), to play starcraft without using the icon, open a terminal, browse to the directory (~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Starcraft/ and execute 'wine Starcraft.exe'
[11:47] <PriceChild> aboutblank, Just remember that you don't want to run out of memory :)
[11:47] <zaggynl> vip3rousmango, for more help with wine, join #winehq
[11:47] <santims> vox754:  so i need to boot into the livecd first and then run gparted from there?
[11:48] <vip3rousmango> zaggynl: thanks.
[11:48] <arjen_ubu> PriceChild: awesome thanks
[11:48] <hakk> hi guys.. is there anything specific I need to do to get amarok working in (gnome) ubuntu? I've got the packages installed, and it can scan my music collection, but hangs when it tries to add any tracks to the playlist - ideas?
[11:48] <aboutblank> pike_: Okay... so in my case I might make multiple swap partions and have them the same priority instead of making a software raid device. Thanks :)
[11:48] <hakk> all audio/video stuff works fine in other apps (e.g. totem)
[11:48] <PriceChild> hakk, be patient, it takes time to build its database
[11:48] <vox754> santims, easy money
[11:48] <santims> thanks d4rkmonkey
[11:48] <hakk> PriceChild: the database was built - it can't add anything to it's playlist..
[11:49] <pike_> hakk: id launch it from the terminal maybe and see what it says. i didnt have any trouble though i only used it a few times
[11:49] <hakk> i can confirm because I set it up using mysql
[11:49] <d4rkmonkey> no problem santims
[11:49] <hakk> although it did the same thing when I had it setup to use the default sql lite
[11:49] <XB0y> ?
[11:49] <MrXorg> Anybody use snort?
[11:50] <ibanex> MrXorg: i have before
[11:50] <arjen_ubu> MrXorg: no, but my father uses *snore* and he can't remove the software :S
[11:50] <hakk> Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x142188)!
[11:50] <hakk> Xlib: sequence lost (0x152188 > 0x1451f6) in reply type 0x0!
[11:50] <hakk> X Error: BadImplementation (server does not implement operation) 17
[11:50] <hakk> oops, sorry
[11:50] <arjen_ubu> MrXorg: apparantly it's readonly :P
[11:50] <MrXorg> ibanex: I'm trying to compile snort with mysql and ACID to get a web based IDS
[11:50] <hakk> anyway, this time amarok through a "no mp3 support"
[11:51] <hakk> even though, like I said, mp3 works fine in other apps
[11:51] <Judg3_Dr34D> hello, I'm a little confused about the mount points... During the install (7.04) I created a Fat32 partition (mount point /windows), and then following hermanzone's guide I did mkdir /media/SharedFat32 to share with WinXP on 1st hd (sda) to mount /devsdb5 (fat32). Was it necessary???
[11:51] <bobsomebody> hey guys, im having trouble installing Ubuntu Desktop 7.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1100 notebook. It wont install, it just hangs on booting busybox after it finds a scsi, this dosent seem rigft because it detects an HDD and assigns it as hda
[11:52] <ibanex> MrXorg: unfortunetly i never got acid working : /
[11:52] <bobsomebody> Judg3_Dr34D, I think you could just make any partition and then install windows to it and edit grub
[11:52] <MrXorg> What was your trouble?
[11:53] <Judg3_Dr34D> winxp is already installed on 1st hd and then I dual-booted with 7.04
[11:53] <ibanex> MrXorg: i forgot the exact problem, i wasnt compiling either, just from repositories
[11:53] <Judg3_Dr34D> installed ubuntu on 2nd hd
[11:53] <d4rkmonkey> Does anyone here have a working lightscribe drive in Feisty? I emailed tech support, and I was told to download software here: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/pse/ but right now it says its pre-release and I think thats only for labling. I need drivers for Ubuntu to let me even read disks from the drive, I can't even manually mount the drive right now, When I try to access it in nautilus it tells me /
[11:53] <d4rkmonkey> dev/hda doesn't exist, I installed using this drive though...
[11:53] <twosouls82> evening :)
[11:53] <Hatty> How do i set it so that the Open/Save dialogs do not show hidden files?
[11:54] <arjen_ubu> i've had my share of giving back to the community, later all
[11:54] <Judg3_Dr34D> bye
[11:54] <bobsomebody> hey guys, im having trouble installing Ubuntu Desktop 7.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1100 notebook. It wont install, it just hangs on booting busybox after it finds a scsi, this dosent seem rigft because it detects an HDD and assigns it as hda
[11:55] <jrib> Hatty: right click -> show hidden fiels
[11:55] <lazaro> Can someone help me with my trouble installing ubuntu 64 on 4 HP dv6227?  Every time I try to start Ubuntu 64 (7.04) it hangs on the loading screen (the one with a progress bar). I tried both the Live and the Alternated CD, but I get no error messages. Any hints?
[11:55] <chrisjs169> bur[n] er: didn't work
[11:55] <Hatty> oh heh. Thanks jrib
[11:55] <d4rkmonkey> lazaro, I think I read something about that model on the forums, maybe search around there?
[11:56] <lazaro> d4rkmonkey: thanks, I only saw one post regarding this model, and the guy just said it didn't work for him :/
[11:56] <Judg3_Dr34D> is there a way to delete /media/SharedFat32 folder which I created in order to mount a Fat32 partition (to share files between WinXP ntfs and Ubuntu)?
[11:57] <ibanex> MrXorg: if you are interested in something that will speak your alerts let me know... i wrote a fairly simple perl script to do it through festival
[11:57] <alexseif_> whois  alexseif
[11:57] <pike_> Judg3_Dr34D: rmdir will remove an empty directory. use sudo of course
[11:57] <d4rkmonkey> lazaro sorry then, I didn't really read the post at I don't have that model... I'm not sure if this will help but try the early version of gutsy?
[11:58] <Judg3_Dr34D> pike_: I'll try that...
[11:58] <der> +
[11:59] <pike_> ubuntu-offtopic is getting a little disturbing :)
[11:59] <chrisjs169> any other suggestions to my dvd issue?
[11:59] <fatespeaks> The Alsa Mixer doesn't seem to control master volume on my SBLive! card.  This seems to be the case for system sounds and sound juicer.  I haven't tested any other sound apps.  The community docs seem to focus on getting sound to play and stop there.  Any idea where I should begin troubleshooting?
[11:59] <Judg3_Dr34D> pike_: thanks, it did the trick, I had used rm and it said that cannot delete cause its a directory
[11:59] <lazaro> d4rkmonkey: thanks for the help, I'll try to download it... can I get it from the ubuntu.com homepage?
[12:00] <Mauro22> hi, does anyone know a IRC Chanell for  Repair of pc / repairer of pc / technical service of PC???
[12:00] <d4rkmonkey> lazaro, I forget where you get it, I'll get you the link in a second
[12:00] <Judg3_Dr34D> so rm is for deleting files and rmdir for deleting directories?
[12:00] <pike_> Mauro22: like #hardware ?
[12:00] <d4rkmonkey> lazaro, I believe the newest gutsy release is tribe 2 found here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/
[12:00] <jimmygoon> Is there a quick way to override xorg.conf to test out an external monitor at a higher resolution?
[12:00] <mrunagi> can anyone explain to me why when you disable the desktop effects and re enable them the desktop cube doesnt work?
[12:01] <vip3rousmango> anyone knwo of a .flv movie converter??
[12:01] <d4rkmonkey> lazaro, I don't know if that will help at all though
[12:01] <vicox> mrunagi: its a bug
[12:01] <vip3rousmango> mrunagi: I don't know but it does it to mine as well..
[12:01] <vip3rousmango> oh really?
[12:01] <vip3rousmango> :(
[12:01] <Mauro22> Pike_: Thanks, I'll try that
[12:01] <vox754> fatespeaks, most proprietary sound cards need proprietary drivers, so complain them, the manufacturers
[12:02] <vox754> !away > Alfred0
[12:02] <mrunagi> is there a fix?
[12:02] <d4rkmonkey> !away > d4rkmonkey
[12:02] <d4rkmonkey> :D