[02:17] <LaserJock> hola Edu people
[02:43] <cottima> hope it is okay to ask a ltsp 4.2 questions here?  on the client if I set the boot order to PXE first, is that all that needs to be done on the client?
[02:46] <LaserJock> it should be I think
[02:46] <cottima> also, the config for pxe clients says it is based on ip.  could it be done by mac address?
[02:50] <cottima> thank you LaserJock
[03:54] <Lenny> hi
[03:58] <Lenny> can anyone help me with "Ubuntu on USB flash drive"?
[05:55] <aquiles> Hello dear community
[05:56] <aquiles> I wonder if you any of you can answer one question that I've been trying to figuer out for almost 2 hours
[05:57] <aquiles> I just installed Edubuntu for my twin girls here at home and when running the update I'm getting the following error:
[05:57] <aquiles> "xfonts-75dpi is missing final newline. Does any knows what this means?
[06:04] <LaserJock> hmm, weird
[06:04] <LaserJock> what version of Edubuntu?
[06:10] <aquiles> hi sorry
[06:10] <aquiles> the version is 7.04
[06:10] <LaserJock> and how are you updating?
[06:11] <aquiles> I did it by using the update software that prompts you on the right hand side corner of the screen (Sorry I do not the name of it)
[06:12] <aquiles> also I have try the the command line of "sudo apt-get upgrade" and it keeps showing the same error message
[06:23] <LaserJock> aquiles: ok, can you paste the command line error message to a pastebin
[06:23] <LaserJock> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <aquiles> yes, I was trying to get save the command line in text and I was moving it to another machine... here it is
[06:24] <aquiles> Selecting previously deselected package openssh-server.
[06:24] <aquiles> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.3p2-8ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:24] <aquiles>  files list file for package `xfonts-75dpi' is missing final newline
[06:28] <aquiles> ubotu here is the url that you requested http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28297/
[08:58] <LaserJock> hi RichEd
[08:58] <RichEd> Hi LaserJock ... how are you this evening ?
[08:58] <LaserJock> tired :-)
[08:59] <LaserJock> RichEd: I got some work done on addon-enhancements, http://laserjock.us/files/gai.png
[09:00] <RichEd> great :) will take a look
[09:00] <LaserJock> I pushed a bzr branch with the needed changes to LP
[09:00] <LaserJock> I just need ogra and cjwatson to look them over
[09:19] <Burgundavia> hey RichEd, LaserJock
[09:19] <RichEd> hi Burgundavia :)
[09:22] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia
[09:22] <LaserJock> RichEd: did you have a chance to read my email?
[09:26] <RichEd> LaserJock: afraid not ... but need to go through it this morning ... have a chat with mark later
[09:27] <LaserJock> RichEd: np, just wondered if I was loosing mail, I've set up my email different so I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important
[01:40] <pips1> hi everyone
[08:45] <jonfhancock> Is there anyone who can give me a hand with dhcp?
[08:49] <moquist> jonfhancock: you can have 192.168.3.17, netmask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.3.254
[08:49] <moquist> jonfhancock: :)
[08:49] <moquist> jonfhancock: what's the question?
[08:51] <jonfhancock> Why thanks!
[08:51] <jonfhancock> I'm trying to set up an edubuntu server.
[08:51] <moquist> a worthy goal, indeed.
[08:51] <jonfhancock> dhcp refuses to start
[08:51] <moquist> k
[08:51] <jonfhancock> Let me get the syslog.
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 (0.0.0.0).
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth0.  If this is not what
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:    you want, please write a subnet declaration
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:    in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:    to which interface eth0 is attached. **
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[08:52] <moquist> jonfhancock: do you have a network adapter with an IP address inside the network for which you will provide DHCP?
[08:52] <moquist> jonfhancock: that tells us -- nope, you don't.
[08:52] <jonfhancock> I guess not
[08:52] <moquist> jonfhancock: if you're handing out DHCP for a range within 192.168.0.x, set your server IP address to something in that range -- such as 192.168.0.254.
[08:53] <moquist> If you need to keep the IP address you have (all our IP addresses are 10.x.x.x), edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to hand out IP addresses in the range you have, instead of 192.168.x.x.
[08:54] <jonfhancock> I'm sorry, I'm a little confused.  The ip on ath (to the web) doesn't matter right.  It's only on eth0 (to the lan) that I'm concerned with?
[08:56] <moquist> yes
[08:57] <jonfhancock> Ok.  So, say I want to use a range like 192.168.160.x
[08:57] <jonfhancock> I would set eth0 as static at 192.168.160.254
[08:58] <moquist> either that or 192.168.160.1 is recommended
[08:58] <jonfhancock> with a subnet of 255.255.255.0
[08:58] <jonfhancock> k
[08:58] <moquist> sounds good so far
[08:58] <moquist> then your range statement in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf must be 192.168.160.2 192.168.160.253 or smaller.
[08:59] <moquist> It would be good to leave room for some static hosts on at least one end, of course.
[08:59] <moquist> There's no reason to make your DHCP range vastly larger than the largest number of hosts you expect.
[08:59] <moquist> e.g., if you know you only have 20 thin clients, I would set your range to something like:
[08:59] <moquist> range 192.168.160.50 192.168.160.100;
[09:00] <moquist> but remember that addresses in that range will also be used by *any* DHCP clients on that network, not just thin clients.
[09:00] <jonfhancock> Ah yes.. My printer and so on
[09:00] <moquist> so if you have 20 TCs but groups of 75 with laptops come in for meetings sometimes, you have to account for that.
[09:00] <jonfhancock> ok
[09:01] <jonfhancock> I'm not too worried about that.
[09:01] <moquist> I'd rather over-explain than under-explain. :)
[09:01] <jonfhancock> naturally
[09:01] <jonfhancock> So here's what I have in dhcpd.conf
[09:02] <jonfhancock> authoritative;
[09:02] <jonfhancock> subnet 192.168.160.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   range 192.168.160.50 192.168.160.100;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option domain-name "example.com";
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option domain-name-servers 192.168.160.254;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option broadcast-address 192.168.160.255;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option routers 192.168.160.254;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
[09:02] <jonfhancock>     filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   }
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   else{
[09:02] <jonfhancock>     filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img";
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   }
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
[09:02] <jonfhancock> }
[09:05] <moquist> jonfhancock: it's considered polite not to paste stuff in IRC; use something like http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:05] <jonfhancock> Sorry.
[09:05] <moquist> jonfhancock: I'm nice. Other people would kick you from the channel (probably not this one, though) for doing that. :)
[09:05] <moquist> jonfhancock: NP.
[09:05] <jonfhancock> I'll remember that
[09:05] <moquist> Well, I don't have privs to kick you here, even if I were mean. So you're very, very safe. :-D
[09:05] <jonfhancock> haha
[09:05] <stgraber> never try doing that on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu :)
[09:06] <jonfhancock> empty promises... ;)
[09:06] <moquist> Yeah, it can really cause a lot of confusion in high traffic channels.
[09:06] <jonfhancock> I'm sure.  although, I don't plan on spending much time in #ubuntu-devel...
[09:06] <stgraber> btw, this dhcpd.conf seems to be ok, now you'll need to put 192.168.160.254 on your NIC (if not already done) and restart dhcpd
[09:07] <jonfhancock> That's what I've done.
[09:07] <moquist> jonfhancock: looks OK; do you have 192.168.160.254 set up to do routing to the Internet?
[09:07] <jonfhancock> can you elaborate?
[09:07] <moquist> jonfhancock: http://rafb.net/p/nkEKaa53.html
[09:08] <moquist> jonfhancock: it only matters if you'll have thick-clients on the network, too
[09:08] <moquist> i.e., if a machine gets its DHCP from your server, it will try to get to the Internet through 192.168.160.254, which must then serve as a gateway
[09:08] <jonfhancock> I haven't, but all my clients should be thin
[09:08] <moquist> ok, then no problem.
[09:09] <moquist> you don't actually need the option routers line at all in that case. (but I would leave it, anyway)
[09:09] <jonfhancock> k
[09:10] <jonfhancock> Is that something I could do for good measure, without risk of making my problem worse?
[09:10] <jonfhancock> just in case I do have a thick client one day
[09:14] <moquist> shouldn't really make a difference; I wouldn't mess with it unless you need to
[09:14] <jonfhancock> k
[09:15] <moquist> what I sent is only a runtime thing, BTW. you'd want to take care of ip_forward in sysctl.conf, and probably save the iptables with whatever mechanism does that.
[09:15] <moquist> ogra: ping?
[09:15] <jonfhancock> so to sum up, dhcpd.conf is configured ok, and the nic is asigned 192.168.160.254, but dhcp3 still fails to start.
[09:16] <moquist> ?
[09:16] <moquist> that's odd.
[09:16] <moquist> paste your syslog at rafb :-)
[09:16] <moquist> LaserJock: http://rafb.net/p/91gwVf77.html
[09:17] <moquist> LaserJock: I was all ready to ask ogra about that, but then you showed up. :-D
[09:17] <moquist> LaserJock: I just asked that in #ubuntu-motu and go no response (yet)
[09:18] <jonfhancock> http://rafb.net/p/xJbLQs32.html
[09:18] <jonfhancock> syslog
[09:18] <LaserJock> moquist: I think it's generally frowned on to put executables in places other than */bin/
[09:18] <moquist> jonfhancock: also paste the output from `ip addr` and your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf NOTE: /etc/****ltsp****/dhcpd.conf
[09:18] <moquist> LaserJock: k
[09:19] <LaserJock> moquist: so is there only one perl script that is executed?
[09:19] <moquist> LaserJock: so the right thing to do is spread the .pm files and the data dir out on the system?
[09:19] <moquist> LaserJock: Hmm. No. There are a small handful of them.
[09:19] <LaserJock> moquist: one thing you can do, I think, is house them in /usr/share/<packagname> and just symlink from /usr/bin/ to there
[09:20] <moquist> LaserJock: I think that sounds like a straightforward option; I'll do that for now.
[09:21] <jonfhancock> etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and id addr http://rafb.net/p/gBIKDa26.html
[09:21] <moquist> jonfhancock: eth0 has no IP address
[09:22] <moquist> jonfhancock: is there a dhclient3 process running for eth0?
[09:22] <moquist> jonfhancock: note the inet 192.168.2.113 line under ath0; you have no inet line under eth0
[09:22] <jonfhancock> I don't know
[09:22] <jonfhancock> I see
[09:22] <moquist> jonfhancock: ps auxwwf | grep dhclient3
[09:23] <jonfhancock> http://rafb.net/p/4Ml8mr63.html
[09:23] <moquist> jonfhancock: you're a totally model citizen now. :-)
[09:24] <jonfhancock> aww:-*
[09:24] <moquist> "totally model". Hmm.
[09:24] <moquist> jonfhancock: that looks good. I would do something like the following, and then see if dhcpd restarts:
[09:24] <moquist> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.160.254 netmask 255.255.255.0
[09:25] <jonfhancock> BAM!
[09:25] <jonfhancock> started fine!
[09:25] <moquist> oh, good.
[09:25] <jonfhancock> haha
[09:25] <jonfhancock> I suppose that could mean my server exploded...
[09:26] <moquist> jonfhancock: you should see the 192.168.160.254 address showing up in /etc/network/interfaces if it's properly configured
[09:27] <jonfhancock> indeed I do!
[09:29] <jonfhancock> my thin client now gets an ip address, but won't boot.  PXE-E11:  ARP timeout
[09:29] <jonfhancock> TFTP cannot open connection...
[09:29] <jonfhancock> :'(
[09:31] <jonfhancock> Unfortunatly, I have to go now.  Thanks for the help with dhcp at least!
[10:45] <acc-akut> hi
[10:45] <acc-akut> ogra
[10:49] <acc-akut> das prob mit dem laden  konnte ich immernoch nich beheben