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vzduchfor those who want to hear it: Slackware 12.0 just announced as released12:37
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K-Ryanjhutchins: It's alright, I'll end up getting a new computer before I fix this one up.12:38
TeraDyneI just did something stupid. DOS level stupid...12:38
K-RyanThere's too much wrong with it12:38
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jhutchinsK-Ryan: You could always get a cheap case and swap the parts into it.12:38
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thumper-officeis there a howto somewhere for upgrading Feisty to Gusty tribe-2?12:38
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intelikeyvzduch oh slack one-dozen   kewl.12:39
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jhutchinsthumper-office: No, because Gutsy is in testing.12:39
jhutchinsthumper-office: You need to clean-install it so the bugs you report are clean.12:39
thumper-officejhutchins: ok12:39
jhutchinsthumper-office: Since the only reason to run Gutsy is to find and report bugs.12:39
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CrunchyFerrett2hm. I dont suppose anyone knows why its throttling my CPU down to 800MHZ12:39
TeraDyneI'll probably get slack 12 later. right now, I need to get some files off my windows box. I screwed up big time.12:40
jhutchinsthumper-office: When it's fairly well tested, then they'll start testing the upgrade scripts.12:40
TeraDyne"mpg321 *.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o *.ogg - && rm *.mp3"12:40
isthisnickvalid_Hey people, do you think that a PII box with 256MB of RAM can run Kubuntu? It has a 8mb nvidia.12:40
GrahamWhat's a good video editor for Linux? I'm looking for something thatf fairly powerful, but not too complex, open or commercial12:40
Grahamisthisnickvalid_: Yes.12:40
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intelikeyTeraDyne isn't there an mpg2ogg app ?12:40
zachGreets, everyone...12:41
intelikeyor was that mp3....12:41
jhutchinsGraham: Have a look at avidemux2 - not the biggest feature list, but works well.12:41
intelikeynm12:41
TeraDyneBasicly, that just took every mp3 in the directory, encoded it into a single ogg file called "*.ogg" and removed the mp3s12:41
vzduchisthisnickvalid_: 256 MB RAM is even enough to run SUSE.. whether the PII will be fast enough to have fun I don't know12:41
jhutchinsGraham: There's also cinnellera (sp?).12:41
TeraDyneintelikey: Yeah, a script, but I couldn't get it to run.12:41
vzduch8 MB gfx RAM might be a bit low, perhaps you can only run 16 bit colour depth12:41
jhutchinsisthisnickvalid_: You'll want to be careful about running too much at once, but it can be done.12:42
CrunchyFerrett2!throttle12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about throttle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
TeraDyneubotu can't drive. XD12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about can't drive. xd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
CrunchyFerrett2!info throttle12:42
TeraDyneO_o;12:42
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K-RyanHeheh12:42
vzduchjhutchins: I ran SUSE 9.3 on this machine (Athlon 900) when it was still on 256 MB RAM12:42
intelikeyTeraDyne yeah the mistake was the && :)   never rm until you are sure it works like you want.    i.e. it may "work" and not do what you want. as per your experiment12:42
K-RyanBye jhutchins12:42
zachI've borked something that is causing problems with System Settings - some of the modules are failing to load. Can someone please help?12:43
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ubotuPackage throttle does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:43
CrunchyFerrett2CPU throttling? Anyone?12:43
vzduchjhutchins: you mean horses?12:43
ardchoilleubotu: Glad you decided to join us12:43
ardchoille:)12:43
K-RyanOH OH OH OH!12:43
K-RyanI THINK IT'S WORKING!12:43
TeraDyneintelikey: Linux. It's a learning experience.12:43
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intelikeyyeah12:44
K-RyanWell the CD is revving up12:44
intelikeyQ. "what do linux users do?"12:44
K-RyanWOOOO!12:44
K-RyanStarting disc write12:44
intelikeyA. "they install software"12:44
K-RyanIt's working! It's really working!12:44
grishnakCrunchyFerrett: i was allowed to adjust cpu speed after i made a full upgrade on feisty .. before that i couldnt touch a thing12:44
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zachCan someone please help me get all my system settings modules back? I have to set up several user accounts.12:45
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ardchoillelol12:45
CrunchyFerrett2I did the full upgrade.12:45
CrunchyFerrett2And now it tells me the throttle is 800mhz12:45
CrunchyFerrett2and It wont let me change it12:45
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K-RyanAlright, while I'm waiting on Knoppix...12:46
K-RyanI've got an old computer that I took the main hard drive out of because I needed it12:46
grishnaksame problem i had .. but mine went away after the upgrade .. running a 1g laptop12:46
K-RyanThat computer is a good 10 years old12:46
CrunchyFerrett2can I just disable CPU frequency scaling entirely?12:46
K-RyanIf I put a Kubuntu CD in the drive and tried to boot up, think it would work?12:46
intelikeyzach ls /the/mount/point/of/your/backed/up/home | while read Q ;do useradd $Q ;echo $Q ;passwd $Q ;done     ?????12:47
ardchoilleK-Ryan: damn small linux will probably run well on it.. but kubuntu would likely be too slow12:47
ardchoilleK-Ryan: How much ram has it got?12:47
K-Ryandamn small linux...12:47
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K-RyanUmm, I'm not sure I think it had 256 and a 12812:47
intelikeydsl is good for what it is.12:47
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grishnakCrunchyFerrett: i couldnt .. i reinstalled after a while .. and come to think it never appeared until kubuntu asked me if i wanted to upgrade .. i was running the previous version12:48
ardchoilleK-Ryan: DSL: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/   if you're interested.12:48
K-RyanThaaaaank you12:48
CrunchyFerrett2hmm12:48
ardchoilleK-Ryan: DSL requires at least 128mb ram12:48
CrunchyFerrett2I want the acpid to be running, right?12:48
K-RyanI know it has at least that12:48
TeraDyneardchoille: I thought they had a "light" version for older hardware?12:48
ardchoilleK-Ryan: You can check out tons of distros, even live ones at: http://distrowatch.com12:49
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K-Ryan*bookmark*12:49
ardchoilleTeraDyne: They may have, I don't know.12:49
zachintelikey: Actually I just figured it out, but thanks anyway, much appreciated. :-)12:49
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ardchoilleK-Ryan: iirc, the kubuntu livecd requires at least 192mb, but I could be wrong.12:50
K-RyanWriting successfully completed12:50
zachintelikey: I had removed kde-guidance-powermanager - I think that's what screwed it up. Just reinstalled kde-guidance and now things appear to be fine.12:50
K-Ryan=D12:50
A10Any body have experience with trying to connect to peoplepc with kppp?12:50
K-RyanSo I have to go try the cd this instant12:50
zachSee ya12:50
CrunchyFerrett2great12:50
K-RyanBe back in a little bit, I'll connect here through Knoppix when I find the IRC client12:50
intelikeyardchoille version ?12:50
CrunchyFerrett2and NOW it thinks my laptop has no battery12:50
CrunchyFerrett2perhaps a reboot is in order12:50
ardchoilleintelikey: Feisty?12:50
intelikeyardchoille probably.   dapper was 12812:51
ardchoilleAh, ok12:51
TeraDyneCrunchyFerrett2: You did an update?12:51
CrunchyFerrett2Yeas12:51
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TeraDyneSame happened to me. You have to reboot12:51
ardchoilleDapper is nice, that is one solid release, IMHO12:51
isthisnickvalid_I downloaded fretsonfire...12:51
isthisnickvalid_and when launching it the screen freezes in another resolution12:52
CrunchyFerrett2But... but.... I thought one of the major happy points for Linux was never having to reboot :(12:52
intelikeyardchoille it's getting there....12:52
isthisnickvalid_and I cannot move the mouse12:52
TeraDyneor restart whatever app that is12:52
CrunchyFerrett2I WAS LIED TOO!12:52
CrunchyFerrett2*to12:52
isthisnickvalid_it gives an error...12:52
intelikeycrunchy  who said reboot ?12:52
CrunchyFerrett2Teradyne12:53
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TeraDyneintelikey: me. It's the only way I could fix the power manager problem12:53
CrunchyFerrett2hmmm12:53
ardchoilles/manager/mangler/12:53
ardchoille;)12:53
intelikeyTeraDyne sudo /etc/init.d/blah restart  ???12:53
grishnakCrunchyFerrett2: yeah :) its all a lie .. the good part is that youll never forget your password .. or at least i wont forget mine since i have to use it a minimum of 3 times pr hour :)12:53
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TeraDyneintelikey: I couldn't figure out which app was the power manager12:54
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grishnakDont do it man .. new monitors for laptops costs a bundle12:54
CrunchyFerrett2I own a computer repair shop12:54
CrunchyFerrett2I have plenty of spare parts onhand12:54
grishnak:) kewl  .. *cough* i might need a few soon12:54
CrunchyFerrett2rofl12:55
CrunchyFerrett2Damn.12:55
intelikeyTeraDyne hehhe when in doubt use the console and  for Q in /etc/rcS.d/* ;do /etc/rcS.d/$Q restart      hehhe    getem' all....12:55
CrunchyFerrett2So I need to restart the system, but Im on the middle of a video encode.12:55
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CrunchyFerrett2Rebooting might make the encode go FASTER, but then again it might not...12:55
CrunchyFerrett2Decisions decisions...12:55
grishnakflip a coin :)12:56
intelikeyTeraDyne all joking aside, i was just kinda saying that if one knows enough about what they are trying to do, then usually a reboot can be avoided,    not always tho.12:56
ardchoillelol @ flip a coin12:56
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=== CrunchyFerrett2 flips a coin
CrunchyFerrett2... it landed on "Reinstall XP"12:57
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grishnakthats one wicked coin12:57
ardchoilleThrow that coin away.. it's obviously micromoney12:57
CrunchyFerrett2... and now it says "Get a Mac"12:57
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ardchoillelol12:58
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CrunchyFerrett2*dodge*12:58
faidillingeri got two monitors, an ati radeon 9250 with the open source drivers, and kubuntu. how can i extend my desktop to monitor number 2 ??12:58
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intelikey!dualhead01:01
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama01:01
CrunchyFerrett2There HAS to be a way to make this thign go faster than 17fps01:01
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intelikey!Xinerama01:02
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead01:02
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intelikeybehold !    a narg.01:05
nargeh?01:05
CrunchyFerrett2a what now/01:05
intelikeywhat's a narg anywy ???01:05
narga character from a book series ;)01:05
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hernansaludosssss a todos/as01:11
hernansolicito ayuda01:12
ardchoilleIngles solamente en esta canel por favor01:12
ardchoille!es01:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:12
hernanokis01:13
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=== CrunchyFerrett2 stabs ndiswrapper
CrunchyFerrett2WORK damn you01:13
grishnaki thought it was working .. only a wee bit slowly01:14
CrunchyFerrett2Different problem.01:14
grishnakhehe01:15
CrunchyFerrett2WiFi is not working01:15
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K-RyanHey guys01:16
K-RyanOperating from Knoppix01:16
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CrunchyFerrett2Hm.01:16
CrunchyFerrett2ndiswrapper has an -a option.01:16
CrunchyFerrett2Am I supposed to use that at some point?01:16
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K-RyanIt's using Kde though so I don't have a big graphical difference and I couldn't find the irc program so I stuck with irssi.01:17
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CrunchyFerrett2I thought KNoppix shipped with xIRC01:17
vzduchK-Ryan: what's wrong w/ irssi?01:17
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ardchoilledoesn't knoppix have konversation?01:18
ardchoilletho, irssi is cool01:18
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CrunchyFerrett2forgive me, but what is the command to make modprobe rescan everything?01:21
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crimsun_CrunchyFerrett2: modprobe doesn't rescan.  What did you want to do?01:22
crimsun_(`sudo depmod -ae` ?)01:22
CrunchyFerrett2well, I just redid modprobe -i ndiswrapper01:22
CrunchyFerrett2now I want it to load01:22
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ejm!beryl01:23
crimsun_CrunchyFerrett2: then re-execute it without -i01:23
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects01:24
CrunchyFerrett2"modprobe ndiswrapper" ??01:24
crimsun_CrunchyFerrett2: yes, if running the install* et al. syntaxes are intended.01:24
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CrunchyFerrett2ok... did that.01:25
CrunchyFerrett2Should a new net interface appear or something?>01:25
crimsun_only if you've configured ndiswrapper appropriately [and unloaded and blacklisted the native driver, if appropriate & available] 01:26
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CrunchyFerrett2I unloaded and blacklisted the bcm43xx driver01:27
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ejmHey, I've got a slight problem with my TI sd card reader on my laptop. Anyway, my laptop freezes up completely if I use it.01:27
rustalothow do I add an apt-key in KDE?01:28
ejmAnd I took my broadcom card out because everytime I used it, not just in linux but windows as well, it would freeze my laptop up as well.01:28
jussi01rustalot: go to adept -> manage repositories -> authentication01:30
CrunchyFerrett2then I ran "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"01:30
CrunchyFerrett2no new interfaces01:30
CrunchyFerrett2ifconfig shows my hardwire connection, and lo01:30
CrunchyFerrett2iwconfig says no wireless extensions on either.01:30
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CrunchyFerrett2hm01:31
CrunchyFerrett2ok01:31
CrunchyFerrett2adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper01:31
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bryanHow can I get windows media player files on kubuntu?01:34
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ejm!mp301:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:35
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ejm!intel01:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:37
ejmyou scum bot!01:37
jussi01ejm: be nice to the bot... ;)01:38
ejmok, if I have to.01:38
jussi01:)01:38
ejmIt'd be cool if someone forked ubuntu/kubuntu, and based/combined it with gentoo. man, gentoo is fast, but kubuntu is good enough for me.01:40
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crash_ok, NOW the DSL is back01:42
crash_did I miss anything?01:42
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greywolfgood afternoon01:42
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CrunchyFerrett3crimsun did I miss anything you were telling me01:43
greywolfI'm somewhat new to linux, so pardon my stupid mistake that I'm about to relate to you01:43
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K-RyanOkay, screw Knoppix01:45
K-RyanThe Live CD was so slow I swore it froze01:45
CrunchyFerrett3...01:45
CrunchyFerrett3Live CD's are always slow01:45
K-Ryan3!?01:45
K-RyanNo, I mean this was ridiculous01:45
CrunchyFerrett3dsl borked01:45
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K-RyanOh that's right, I gotta look into that one too...01:45
CrunchyFerrett3no01:46
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greywolflooking for a few games to kill time with, I recently installed PlaneShift on Kubuntu 7.04, and found that Mesa v6.3.5, the OpenGL renderer, was too old for PlaneShift to work01:46
CrunchyFerrett3DSL = My Internets Tubes01:46
K-RyanOh01:46
K-RyanI thought you meant damn small linux01:46
CrunchyFerrett3lol no01:46
CrunchyFerrett3Im actually downloading another Distro as we speak, and Im gonna see if it will take my WiFi card and make it usable.01:46
greywolfso I looked around for a bit and was planning on compiling the new version, 7.0.0, but then I figured I could look around for a package to make it easier01:46
ejmwhat card?01:47
K-Ryangreywolf: xjewel01:47
CrunchyFerrett3If so, then I know it CAN be done. Just need to figure out HOW01:47
CrunchyFerrett3Its a BCM4318 chipset01:47
K-Ryandownload and enjoy it01:47
ejmlol01:47
CrunchyFerrett3because the damned 43xx drivers dont like me, and ndiswrapper wont even acknowledge my existance01:47
ejmI can't stand broadcom. Since they did whatever it was to "help" linux,01:47
ejmI took out my broadcom card.01:47
greywolfK-Ryan: ok, I'll do that in a bit :P01:47
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greywolfso I looked around on the ubuntu package search site and found that Gutsy has 7.0.0 packages01:48
ejmIt was freezing my pc everytime I used it anyway, whether in windows or linux.01:48
CrunchyFerrett3my NEXT step is to find the linux Synaptic TouchPad drivers, so I can disable the damned TAP function01:48
CrunchyFerrett3may as well do that now01:49
greywolfso I figured, instead of downloading the 10-odd packages and dependencies I need, I'll just add the repositories and that way it'll upgrade all the dependencies anyway01:49
K-Ryangreywolf: there's neverball too01:49
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ejmthere's a way to disable it.01:50
greywolfso I installed the mesa stuff, but seeing 1,100 packages just waiting to be updated (via Gutsy's repositories) was too much for me to handle (and I wanted to be on the cutting edge, too...), so I mark it all as a full upgrade and wait several hours for it to download/install01:50
CrunchyFerrett3yeah, getting the package for it now01:50
ejmI don't remember what synaptic ui I used though.01:50
greywolfunfortunately, it looks like it broke gnome about a third of the way through, and now I can't uninstall gnome or reinstall it, even after removing gutsy's repositories01:51
greywolfI tried removing .metacity, .gnome, .gnome2, and all the assorted .gnome-related directories in my home dir, and managed to get libgnome2-0 removed, but now nothing else gnome related will install or get removed01:52
K-RyanWhat's BSD stand for?01:52
CrunchyFerrett3Berkley something or other01:53
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greywolfAdept yells at me saying,"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."01:53
greywolfat this point, I don't really care if it breaks any more packages, I just want to reinstall gnome, and clean up the collateral damage afterwards01:53
hitmanWillygreywolf: use apt instead and see what errors it throws01:54
hitmanWillygreywolf: those are usually a little more verbose01:54
ejmok, is kubuntu 7.04 known as feisty? I get the names mixed up. I know that 7.10 is gutsy01:54
greywolfI did type this in the terminal: sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz-gnome01:54
hitmanWillyejm: yes01:54
greywolflemme paste the output somewhere really fast01:55
ejmk01:55
hitmanWillygreywolf: ok01:55
K-RyanWhat do you guys think is the most widely used distro?01:56
ejmgentoo01:56
CrunchyFerrett3OSX01:56
greywolfthis is the output: http://rafb.net/p/4GWb0L87.html01:56
CrunchyFerrett3!touchpad01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
hitmanWillyCrunchyFerrett3: nah, OSX is BSD :)01:56
CrunchyFerrett3!tap01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
hitmanWillyCrunchyFerrett3: i don't think that counts as a distro01:57
CrunchyFerrett3!TURNOFFTHEDAMNEDTAPONTHETOUCHPAD01:57
ejmgentoo and ubuntu combined--wow! talk about speed and stability.01:57
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ejmbut the developers would argue about every little thing that most people don't care about, not that that's bad.01:58
hitmanWillyejm: i use both myself, on different machines01:58
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ejmmy problem with gentoo is getting the useflags or whatever they are set right.01:59
ejmand the installer quits on me 1/2 through.01:59
hitmanWillyejm: bah, the gentoo installer sux, use the guide on gentoo.org and do it by hand01:59
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ejmyeah01:59
BluesKajK-Ryan, BSD stands for "Berkeley Software Distribution"02:00
K-RyanAny relation to BSOD?02:00
K-Ryan=)02:00
ejmAnd I don't like having my cpu temp. shoot up to 74 degrees C in 2 seconds.02:00
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greywolfok I just ran this: sudo apt-get -f install, and it spat this out at me: http://rafb.net/p/sEMfrA92.html02:01
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: actually, BSD is probably the most stable OS out there once its set up right02:01
greywolfit looks like the same problem02:01
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Just kidding around ;)02:01
hitmanWillygreywolf: did you remove ubuntu-desktop?02:01
greywolfnot yet02:02
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BluesKajK-Ryan, it's unix based like linux, but BSD is what you get when a bunch of Unix hackers sit down to try to port a Unix system to the PC. Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers sit down and try to write a Unix system for the PC.... this a quote from The BSD site: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php02:02
ejmanyway, supper is ready, and the food is waiting. see you all in an hour or so.02:02
hitmanWillygreywolf: but you probably removed something it depends on, cuz it wants to remove it02:02
Xbehaveive installed java 5 and java 6 but a program is telling me i need to update?02:03
greywolfis there anything I can do besides a reinstall?02:03
greywolf(of the OS)02:03
BluesKajyeah hitmanWilly , the qualifier is : once you get it set up right ...setting it up is pretty daunting02:04
greywolfwait02:04
hitmanWillygreywolf: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:04
greywolfyeah I did removeit02:04
greywolf*remove it02:04
greywolfI just double-checked in adept02:04
hitmanWillyBluesKaj: not for a gentoo junkie :P02:04
BluesKajahhh, have you run BSD , hitmanWilly ?02:04
hitmanWillyBluesKaj: played around a little, but nothing serious, tho02:05
CrunchyFerrett3well. ksynaptics doesnt seem to want to work either.02:05
CrunchyFerrett3Someone remind me why I'm experimenting with Linux again?02:05
greywolfit spat this at me: http://rafb.net/p/ERk7v972.html02:05
hitmanWillyBluesKaj: but that was just in a VM :)02:05
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Xbehavebecause its free and you cant experiment with windows (well not legally easily and cheaply)02:07
fyrmedichow do I skip the automatic fsck during boot? And if I can't how do I fix read errors on hda1?02:08
CrunchyFerrett3Xbehave: dont suppose I can argue with that.02:09
CrunchyFerrett3WiFi and the Touch pad... those get fixed and I will sing Linux's praises.02:09
hitmanWillygreywolf: is your system up to date?02:09
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greywolfyeah, it should be02:10
greywolfit's 7.0402:10
hitmanWillygreywolf: ah, wait, i see...i think it has something to do with the gnome packages being slated for removal02:10
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greywolfyeah, they don't want to reinstall02:11
K-RyanI can run DSL in Kubuntu?02:11
XbehaveCrunchyFerrett3: you running fiesty? thats got the best wifi support02:11
hitmanWillygreywolf: ok, do you mind reinstalling gnome altogether? or do you want to go the KDE or XFCE route?02:11
Dusk_K-Ryan: DSL?02:12
Dusk_K-Ryan: of course02:12
greywolfI *want* to reinstall gnome :P02:12
greywolfI'm on KDE now02:12
K-RyanCool, how? =)02:12
greywolfI don't care about XFCE02:12
Xbehavebut yes wifi does suck in linux it can be hard work if you dont have correct hardware (ofc once your running linux its not too hard to get the right hardware)02:12
Dusk_ethernet or usb modem?02:13
hitmanWillygreywolf: ok, try this, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop (you've done this already, correct?)02:13
voidmageyou know that just removes the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, right?02:13
greywolfyeah, ubuntu-desktop is gone02:13
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hitmanWillygreywolf: ok, sudo apt-get autoremove will remove everything that ubuntu-desktop depends on...namely, gnome and associated utils02:14
hitmanWillygreywolf: don't worry, you can reinstall them later and it should preserve most of your configs02:14
hitmanWillygreywolf: unless you --purge02:15
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hitmanWillygreywolf: how do you want to reinstall? you can do either ubuntu-desktop, which brings all kind of cruft with it, or you can do individual packages (ie gnome, evolution) seperately02:16
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greywolfI'll try the easiest way first :P02:17
greywolfalthough I don't think the ubuntu-desktop way will work02:17
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hitmanWillygreywolf: give it a shot anyway02:17
hitmanWillygreywolf: or don't, its up to you :)02:18
greywolfheh, I will02:18
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hitmanWillygreywolf: let me know if that fixes the problem02:18
greywolfok02:19
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abaridginaywow02:22
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greywolfgah this is so frustrating02:24
greywolf:\02:25
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K-RyanYou should try finding the right .iso for DSL...02:25
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greywolfcan I force a removal of a package somehow?02:26
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hitmanWillygreywolf: apt-get --force remove should do it02:29
hitmanWillygreywolf: or something like that02:29
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Xbehaveive installed java 1.5 and java 1.6 but a program is telling me i need to update?, how do i fix this?02:29
hitmanWillybrb02:30
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jhutchinsgreywolf: Given how much work it's been so far, how attractive has a clean reinstall become?02:32
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linux_ow como que instalo mp3 sem apt-get???????02:47
linux_alguem me ajuda!!02:48
jhutchins!pt | linux_02:48
ubotulinux_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:48
linux_tenho proxi aqui e nao tenho como instalar por console02:48
linux_vlw02:49
jhutchins!mp3 | linux_02:49
ubotulinux_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:49
jhutchins...all in English, I'm afraid.02:49
jhutchinsStill, you can run them through babelfish.02:50
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raymondI'm trying to use theme manager but it says i need to use administrator privleges yet there is no button for it03:04
raymondhow do i get into administrator mode?03:04
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wsjuniorraymond: which theme manager?03:06
wsjuniorraymond: just open kcontrol and go to appearance & themes and then select theme manager03:06
raymondkdm theme. i did that but it wont let me make changes03:07
wsjunioruh that's different :-)03:07
raymondsays i have to click the adminstator button which doesnt exist03:07
wsjunioralt+f2 and then type kdmtheme03:07
wsjuniorthere will be a button to be clicked ;-D03:07
raymondah there it is03:08
raymondthanks03:08
wsjuniornp03:08
wsjunior;-D03:08
K-RyanI'm baaaaaaaack =)03:09
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K-Ryanhttp://www.damnsmalllinux.org/usb.html03:10
K-RyanThink it's worth it?03:10
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K-RyanNo input? Ah, too bad.03:13
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KevInAlaskaanyone know a reason that 'Beryl' would not load up more then just an icon for a few seconds on initial starting of it then nothing...?03:15
K-RyanTry opening it in the terminal03:15
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KevInAlaskareally terminal?  okay I will try it.03:16
K-RyanIf that doesn't fix it, it should give more feedback as to what is going wrong03:16
K-RyanJust type in "beryl"03:16
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KevInAlaskawell it worked and it didnt work.  In terminal it read (Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:20
KevInAlaskaRoot visual is not a GL visual03:20
KevInAlaskaXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:20
KevInAlaskaberyl: Root visual is not a GL visual03:20
KevInAlaskaberyl: Failed to manage screen: 003:20
KevInAlaskaberyl: No manageable screens found on display :0)03:20
KevInAlaskawhoops.. didnt mean all the seperate lines.03:20
K-RyanIt does it when you paste stuff in03:20
K-RyanCareful with that, you should really use pastebin03:20
K-RyanIf you had one more line the bot probably would of kicked you =P03:20
KevInAlaskayeah... I forgot about pastebin... is it still bugged?03:21
K-RyanYou might want to try the #ubuntu-effects03:21
K-RyanBugged?03:21
K-RyanAnyone know how to run Damn Small Linux under Kubuntu>03:22
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K-Ryan?03:22
KevInAlaskayeah.. it used to give me a kind of white screen (via HTML) that read some error message03:22
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K-RyanStrange03:22
K-Ryanpaste.ubuntu-nl.org03:22
K-RyanErr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:23
KevInAlaskaI would have to back up the page then click on my pastebin posting that shows up in the upper left corner fo the screen, at that point I could copy the address at the top to paste in here.03:23
KevInAlaskaI will try that one.03:23
KevInAlaskais 'GLX' something that is a apt-get thing to load?03:24
K-RyanI don't think so03:24
K-RyanI don't remember getting it03:24
K-RyanYou setup Fglrx and Xgl?03:24
KevInAlaskadependency?03:24
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K-RyanI'm assuming you have Ati03:25
K-RyanDo you?03:25
KevInAlaskanVidia 6800 GT03:25
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K-RyanOh, that's strange...03:25
K-RyanI never had any problems with my Nvidia03:25
K-RyanYou got the drivers for it though right?03:25
KevInAlaskayep.03:26
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K-RyanTry this03:26
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K-Ryansudo apt-get remove beryl beryl-manager && sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager03:26
KevInAlaskaused Envy like I did last time.  I did a reinstall two days ago and the last install envy and beryl worked flawlessly03:26
KevInAlaskaokay.. one sec03:26
K-RyanYeah that might take a minute or two depending on how fast your internet connection is03:27
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KevInAlaskadone03:27
K-RyanTry03:27
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KevInAlaskaokay beryl red diamond is jumpping on my pointer and berly manager program on the bar was there and then 20 seconds about .. its gone03:28
K-RyanTry "beryl-manager" in the terminal03:29
defconwhat are some good ways to optimize memory consumption in ubuntu, my ubuntu often freezes and wont open apps03:29
KevInAlaskawhen I did the terminal it did load it up but didnt work.  I would get the red diamond down there with the options and the configure window if needed but nothing seemed to come of the difference choices I have tried.03:29
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KevInAlaskatrying the terminal load again03:29
K-RyanHrmm03:29
KevInAlaskatrying something and will have to sever the irc.. brb03:30
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posingaspopularhere's a question for the room. i have to boot into a windows partition to look at some files. when i try to boot the win partition,it wont start. is there anyway i can boot open a virtual machine and trick the computer into opening the win partition in kubuntu?03:31
K-RyanYou can mount the drive and look at it in Kubuntu03:32
K-RyanThere are ways to setup read-write for ntfs but it's not recommended.03:32
posingaspopularK-Ryan: i dont need to mount the drive, i need to look at the actual OS03:32
K-RyanAnd you can run Windows in some program03:32
K-RyanAh03:32
K-RyanNot sure what program it was or how to do it though, sorry03:33
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posingaspopularim just going to try it and see what happens. thanks K-Ryan03:34
K-RyanAny luck KevinAlaska?03:34
K-RyanNo problem posingaspopular03:34
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KevInAlaskano luck.03:35
defconwhat are some good ways to optimize memory consumption in ubuntu, my ubuntu often freezes and wont open apps?03:35
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K-RyanKevInAlaska: You have restarted since installing the drivers and the Nvidia splash screen shows up before the login screen right?03:36
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jay_hey guys, i have a question..... i am running ubuntu on a imac g3 ppc and i have to set the depth to 8 in order to see a viewable but still fuzzy screen, anyone know of a good fix for this ?03:36
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KevInAlaskasorry I could not type after trying "beryl" from CLI03:37
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K-RyanIt's alright03:38
KevInAlaskaI had to control + alt + backspace03:38
K-RyanWhen you did that, you got the Nvidia pop up screen right?03:38
KevInAlaskaso one of two things happen when I load it.03:38
KevInAlaskanot when I control alt backspace... but when I load from reboot or cold boot03:39
K-RyanOkay03:39
K-RyanSo your drivers are functioning03:39
K-RyanHave you tried #ubuntu-effects ?03:39
KevInAlaska1) tries to load then nothing or it kind of loads with the red diamond and and I can bring up options but nothing beyond that.03:39
KevInAlaskano.. I will now.. going to load up that chat03:39
K-RyanOh hold on03:39
K-RyanYou get the icon in the tray?03:40
K-RyanRight click it, go to window manager and click Beryl03:40
K-RyanInstead of Kwin03:40
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posingaspopulardefcon: you could try using xfce as your desktop enviornment03:42
posingaspopularit's very lightweight. used alot in laptops and old computers03:42
defconim running gnome, that is pretty lightweight03:44
defconim running a dual 3 ghz03:44
KevInAlaskaoops.. sorry K-Ryan I had already joined the other channel and missed your "Oh hold on" :)03:44
defcononly thing lacking is ram and video card03:44
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K-RyanIt's okay KevInAlaska, try it though03:44
pwilson_hi folk, could i get some help installing openGL? wine is telling me i don't have any opengl extention, running fiesty03:45
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K-Ryanpwilson_: What kind of video card? Ati? Nvidia?03:46
pwilson_ati m30003:46
K-Ryanm300?03:46
K-RyanNever heard of that model03:46
zibrah3edprobably an older compaq03:46
K-RyanYou can try your luck with...03:46
K-Ryan!ati03:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:47
pwilson_from lspci ---   ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] 03:47
pwilson_well, that just it, the ati driver is installed and working, but wine is saying it can't find the extentions03:48
pwilson_for open gl03:48
K-RyanHmm03:48
K-RyanYou setup Fglrx and Xgl?03:48
jay_anyone here know anything about getting ubuntu on a newworld imac g3 ? the screen is screwed up, i've tried a variety of things in the xorg.conf file03:48
zibrah3edare you sure the ati driver is loaded03:48
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pwilson_I've checked the xorg.conf, ati is the driver its loading.03:48
pwilson_and it works fine03:49
pwilson_I can't get the beryl window manager to work either, it just crashes and reverts to default.03:49
pwilson_here is the error wine is throwing.03:50
KevInAlaskaI had to control alt backspace again03:50
K-RyanNo luck KevInAlaska?03:50
KevInAlaskatried to get the diamond up again.03:50
K-RyanI'm out of ideas, try the other channel for now03:50
K-RyanSorry03:50
pwilson_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28281/03:50
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KevInAlaskano worries.. you have been more then helpful.  might I ask what your statement was on clicking on the icon first?03:51
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K-RyanThe icon popped up in that icon tray on your taskbar right?03:52
pwilson_Any recomendations?03:52
jay_damn you guys are no help, you guys suck cock i'm out of here bitches03:52
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K-Ryan-.-03:52
pwilson_lol03:53
K-RyanSome people...03:53
zibrah3edjay wonderful way to get help03:53
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zibrah3edI'm sure i'll try to never help you03:53
zibrah3edpwilson_ I had the same graphics card on my old compaq and I never got it to work03:54
hitmanWillywas that a troll?03:54
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K-RyanhitmanWilly: Don't know, what did he ask?03:54
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intelikeytroll ?   surely not !03:54
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: jay earlier03:54
pwilson_Well, thats just it, it does work, i'm just having this specific problems.03:54
zibrah3ednewworld imac screen screwed up03:54
hitmanWillyjust got back and heard the 'you guys are no help' thing from jay03:55
K-Ryanpwilson_ I took a look and nothing that I would recognize was there, sorry03:55
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Nobody could help him so he just assumed we were ignoring him03:55
hitmanWillyah, k03:55
intelikeyhitmanWilly me too.   but is that one of those places where we shouldn't assume malus ?03:55
pwilson_Thanks for looking ryan.03:55
K-RyanSorry I couldn't help pwilson_ =P03:56
hitmanWillyintelikey: probably....03:56
K-RyanAnyone know why K3b would refuse to burn me an .iso?03:56
K-RyanI did one before, and now it's not working again03:56
K-RyanTried SAO, DAO, and TAO03:56
K-RyanEach one told me to use one of the others03:56
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: could be a drive issue03:56
K-RyanBut it did work before03:57
intelikeyor group issue03:57
K-RyanIt didn't work for Feather Linux, then worked for Knoppix, and now won't work for Damn Small Linux03:57
intelikeyanything that might have changed the groups you are in K-Ryan ?   or the permissions in /dev ?03:57
K-Ryanintelikey: Nothing should have done that03:57
K-RyanI haven't even screwed around with my system today03:57
pwilson_To recap for those who just came in, Winde can't find my openGL extentions, vid card is an ATI m22, ati is listed as driver in xorg.conf, wine error is here--->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28281/  Also, beryl crashes.03:58
K-RyanBy the way, for some reason when I select the DSL .iso it says Volume Id: KNOPPIX03:58
pwilson_But 3d screen savers render fine.03:58
intelikey!ati | pwilson_ not that you don't already know this but:03:58
ubotupwilson_ not that you don't already know this but:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:58
zibrah3edK-ryan thats normal03:58
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: i think DSL is originally based off of knoppix03:59
K-RyanJust making sure that something didn't go wrong03:59
zibrah3edit is03:59
K-RyanBecause Knoppix is the last Iso I made03:59
pwilson_Ati driver is already installed. :(03:59
K-RyanYeah his drivers seem to be in order03:59
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K-Ryan=)04:00
zibrah3edsemantics04:00
pwilson_I'll try reinstalling from the non-free binary04:00
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zibrah3edPwilson check out http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide04:01
defconquick question, will apt-get remove beagle remove beagle search, search database files and all beagle stored information or is there another command argument for that?04:02
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K-RyanI'm trying to simulate the SAO thing now, and it's been nearly 2 minutes and I've got nothing04:02
K-RyanAlmost 3 and a half minutes, still nothing =(04:04
K-Ryan3:2804:04
K-RyanSending CUE sheet04:04
K-RyanUnable to send CUE sheet04:04
K-RyanWhat's that mean?04:04
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K-Ryan!CUE04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
K-Ryan=(04:05
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: you might try in #k3b or something04:06
K-RyanThat's a channel?04:06
hitmanWillyi dunno, probably04:06
zibrah3edCue sheet (computing), a text file that details the layout of tracks on a compact disc04:06
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K-RyanIt's empty =(04:07
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hitmanWillythey have a channel for pretty much everything else here :P04:07
K-RyanThis is such a PITA04:07
K-RyanWhat makes it worse, a perfectly fine CD burner is no more than 3 feet behind me04:07
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: how does it set up permissions for the drive?04:08
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K-RyanBut the whole damn computer is being hogged by my brother who plays games and that's all his life consists of04:08
K-RyanNow he's addicted to Maple Story -.-04:08
K-RyanhitmanWilly: No idea04:08
zibrah3edI know this is dumb but have you tried to start k3b as root04:09
euphoriahi everyone does anyb ody know ow i can get drivers for the4 dialup modem in my toshiba satellite a100 laptop, i believe teh modem is integrated into the soundcard ?04:09
K-RyanI haven't, should I?04:09
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: actually, see if you're in the media or dvd or whatever group your distro uses04:09
zibrah3edIt would determine whether its hw or permissions04:09
K-RyanI'm using Kubuntu fyi04:09
zibrah3edroot is root04:09
K-RyanDirected at hitmanWIlly ;)04:10
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: well, you were talking about Knoppix and DSL earlier, so I wasn't sure :P04:10
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K-RyanYeah sorry for the confusion =P04:10
K-RyanI'm trying to burn DSL04:11
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K-RyanI was burning Knoppix before04:11
hitmanWillyanyway, try it with kdesu, see if that works04:11
K-RyanWhy does anything that gets run as root from terminal use the default theme?04:12
intelikeyi don't know about k3b but xcdroast wont work until you run it one time as root so it can setup the system config04:12
zibrah3edBecause that is theme set for the root accou nt04:12
K-RyanI'll have to change that =)04:12
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: its cause your chosen theme is just for your acct04:12
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: its actually a good idea in case you forget that its a root app running04:13
Daisuke_Idonice side effect is that you KNOW at a glance if something's running as root04:13
K-RyanOh04:13
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K-RyanIt's not that different from my current one04:13
K-RyanIt's just slightly brighter04:13
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: or at least set it to something different than you normally use04:13
K-RyanhitmanWilly: I planned on it04:14
K-Ryan=)04:14
K-RyanAlmost 2:30 and nothing has happened yet04:14
admin___quien habla espaol?04:14
K-Ryan!es04:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:14
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: may be HW issues then04:14
K-RyanIt worked before04:14
K-RyanWait a second!04:14
roggersok gracias04:14
K-RyanHe's off his computer! Quick!04:14
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: sometimes a drive will half work for a while before it goes completely kaput04:15
K-RyanStrange04:15
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: or it could be the ribbon cable, or it could even be the IDE controller on the mobo04:15
K-RyanWhat could be wrong with the ribbon cable?04:16
intelikeyide  heh04:16
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: could have come loose, got caught in a fan and damaged, the possibilities are endless :P04:17
intelikeyendless ?04:17
K-RyanMmm, I'll have to open it back up again I suppose04:17
K-RyanThe computer, not the cable...04:17
hitmanWillyintelikey: well, not literally, but you get the drift04:17
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hitmanWillytheres a lot of potential HW failure points is what im trying to say04:18
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intelikeythe possabilites are three for a malfunctioning cable   1, open circut  2, short circut  3, high resistance04:18
zibrah3ed4. mice04:18
intelikeyfalls under 1 and 304:18
intelikeyerr 204:19
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zibrah3edlol04:19
K-RyanYeah I guess you're right about that...04:19
hitmanWillyintelikey: i was drifting more towards the practical end of the spectrum, as in what caused one of the three above mentioned issues04:19
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pwilson_Stupid question, could someone tell me where to find the resticted package manager in KDE once installed? fiesty.04:20
Daisuke_Idoadd/remove programs...  not the same thing, but video drivers are in there, i believe04:20
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pwilson_It says they are already installed, I need to manage them.04:21
intelikeypwilson_ you can always launch things from the konsole if you don't see a menu itom04:21
pwilson_what would the comand be in console?04:21
pwilson_lol04:21
intelikeyopen a konsole and start with rest[tab] [tab] 04:21
intelikeyuse the tab key luke.04:21
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pwilson_I've got a long way to go, I've finally deleted my vista partition, so I'm not going back, but its an uphill struggle for someone who has been using dos/win for 20 years.04:22
Daisuke_Idoyou'll be fine04:22
pwilson_Lol, not if I can't find something as simple as a package manager.04:23
intelikeypwilson_ yes it is.  you didn't learn dos/windows in a day so don't expect to master linux in a day...04:23
K-Ryanpwilson_: You don't have Adept or Synaptic?04:23
K-RyanTry sudo apt-get install kubuntu_desktop04:23
K-Ryanerr kubuntu-desktop04:23
intelikeyK-Ryan he means the "restricted package manager" from the ubuntu side of things04:24
K-Ryanor was it kubuntu-minimal?04:24
pwilson_I do, have adept.04:24
K-RyanOh that thing, yeah I never found that thing either04:24
pwilson_How hard would it be to go to gnome? from a fresh kubuntu install?04:24
K-RyanNot hard, you just install the right stuff and click "Gnome" instead of "Kde" when you log in04:25
K-RyanIf I'm not mistaken04:25
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afaithhello my fellow mates!04:25
intelikeypwilson_ install "gnome"  and logout/log into gnome04:25
zibrah3edpwilson_ "restricted-manager"04:25
afaithi've got a problem and i don't know what to do04:25
afaithif i reboot my default route is set from ppp0 to eth004:26
K-Ryanbrb04:26
afaithand i cannot access the internet04:26
pwilson_Will everything be set up in gnome as if it were a fresh ubuntu install?04:26
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zibrah3edpwilson_ yes04:26
afaithonly if i delete that route manually and i set it again04:26
pwilson_WOOT, found the restricted manager.04:26
afaithfor the pppo device04:26
pwilson_thanks for the console tip.04:26
afaithcan anyone give me a helping hand please ?04:26
zibrah3ednp04:26
pwilson_TAB rocks in the console, I feel much better.04:26
intelikeypwilson_ no that would require installing ubuntu-desktop   but there may be issues when you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed   some of the defaults may not be what you expect.04:27
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intelikeypwilson_ yeah it do.  :)04:27
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illriginalDoes anyone know about ventrilo?04:28
afaithno one is willing to give me a helping hand ?04:28
intelikeyillriginal it's usually more productive to simply describe the issue you are having than to ask if anyone knows about blah04:28
pwilson_ack, im 800 megs into a 3gig file download, and kde wants to restart.04:29
pwilson_lol04:29
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hitmanWillypwilson_: then wait until you're done, this isn't windows :P04:30
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intelikeyafaith my answer probably wouldn't be what you are looking for but: "i would put the commands you issue to streighten the thing out in a script and call it from /etc/rc.local04:30
intelikey"04:30
illriginalintelikey, i wanna get a program that's for mac and windows to work on linux, i haven't downloaded it yet.04:30
illriginalhttp://www.ventrilo.com/download.php04:30
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afaithintelikey: i've already done that, same problem04:30
scott__Hello04:30
intelikeyillriginal and you want to know how hard/easy it is to get it working... ?04:31
intelikeyafaith may i see what you have done ?04:31
illriginalintelikey, i dunno if crossoffice or wine will be good enough :x04:31
afaithintelikey: of course04:31
afaithintelikey: route del -net 0.0.0.004:31
scott__I am configuring a new system and mistakenly dropped myself from the admin group using usermod04:31
hitmanWillyillriginal: check the wine app database04:32
afaithintelikey: route add default gw 86.34.219.25404:32
scott__now I can no longer sudo04:32
zibrah3edIllriginal wine db rates ventrilo as silver, not going to be real stable04:32
scott__I was the only sudo-allowed user04:32
scott__is there any way out of this?04:32
hitmanWillyscott__: reboot into a recovery console04:32
illriginalzibrah3ed, is it better that i use cross office?04:32
intelikeyscott__ one soultion.  reboot to single user mode and fix it.04:32
hitmanWillyscott__: that runs with root perms04:32
scott__thank you!04:33
zibrah3edillriginal i have never personallhy used cross over office so i don't know04:33
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illriginalok zibrah3ead :P04:33
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intelikeyafaith ok but what about an "ifconfig ppp0 <ip> "   would that not do what you need ?   (intelikey is network illiterater)04:34
intelikey  <<<<---- don't listen to him on network things....04:35
afaiththe ip of ppp0 is from a dhcp server04:35
afaithdo you think i should kill pppd can try to recall it in /etc/rc.local ?04:36
zibrah3edillriginal it seems some have had luck running it on cedega04:36
CrunchyFerrettsigh04:36
hitmanWillyafaith: could you restart dhcpd, see if that works?04:36
CrunchyFerrettHow can I tell if ndiswrapper is actually doing anything?04:36
intelikeyoh    define it in /etc/network/interfaces04:36
intelikeyCrunchyFerrett lsmod will list the modules inserted04:37
afaithhitmanWilly: i can't it isn't my dhcp server04:37
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afaithintelikey: thanks for the tip, let's try04:37
CrunchyFerrettlsmod's output is longer than I can scroll back :P04:37
intelikey?04:37
intelikeyreally ?04:38
intelikeywell pipe it into  less04:38
intelikeylsmod | less04:38
hitmanWillyCrunchyFerrett: that's normal with a buntu box, try | less04:38
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afaithintelikey: there is no reference to ppp0 in /etc/network/interfaces04:38
illriginalzibrah3ad yeah i got it runnin :P04:38
illriginallooks good so far04:38
hitmanWillyafaith: that means it should default to dhcp04:38
zibrah3edgood04:38
intelikeyafaith yeah that's what i was saying, i think you need to make one04:38
afaithoh... and what should i type there ?04:39
afaithi'm not a linux guru :(04:39
intelikeyhitmanWilly help afaith get that ppp0 streightened out04:39
CrunchyFerrettwell04:39
hitmanWillyafaith: what exactly is the issue again?04:40
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CrunchyFerrettbcm43xx isn't loaded. ndiswrapper IS loaded. Still no additional network interfaces.04:40
hitmanWillyafaith: it won't connect?04:40
CrunchyFerrettand Im not going to sleep until this works!!04:40
intelikeyhitmanWilly problem is startup sets eth0 as the default network connection and he needs ppp004:40
afaithif i reboot my default route is set from ppp0 to eth0 and i cannot access the internet only if i delete that route manually and i set it again04:40
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intelikeyso can't he do that in /etc/network/interfaces  ???          <i don't know how or i'd have already said>04:41
hitmanWillyintelikey: nah, needs to edit the init script04:42
intelikeythat i can do  :)04:42
hitmanWillyinterfaces just list how the individual devices connect ie dhcp or static at such and such address04:42
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hitmanWillyhold on a sec while i look something up04:43
intelikey!patience | afaith04:44
ubotuafaith: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:44
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afaithintelikey: i'm more than patience even if i've got only 30 minutes to solve this ... i'm going to a nearby resort and i have to reboot my pc now, to take it to another room04:45
afaithso ... it's now or never04:45
intelikeyyep that's patient  :)04:47
afaith20 tigars helped me :P04:48
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hitmanWillystill looking....04:49
afaiththanks .. if you could help me to solve this tremendous problem i would be more than grateful04:50
hitmanWillyafaith: ok, intelikey may have been right with the interfaces file, was thinking something else04:51
afaithso, what should i type in that interfaces file ?04:51
hitmanWillyafaith: does /etc/network/interfaces have any reference to ppp0?04:51
afaithi ave no clue...04:51
afaithhitmanWilly: no, there is no trace of ppp0 in interfaces04:52
hitmanWillyafaith: ok, you'll probably need to get the actual config options from intelikey, never used dial-up in nix04:52
afaithit's not dial up, it's pppoe04:53
hitmanWillyafaith: always on?04:53
afaithyep04:53
intelikeyshould be just like eth  <afaik>04:53
hitmanWillyafaith: ok, i got it then, try adding this to /etc/network/interfaces:04:53
hitmanWillyauto ppp004:54
hitmanWillyiface ppp0 inet dhcp04:54
hitmanWillythose are two seperate lines04:54
afaithok, let me try :P04:54
intelikeyafaith you have to edit that as root.   kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces04:54
afaithi know :P04:54
afaithi prefer joe :D04:54
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intelikeyvi clone user04:55
intelikey:)04:55
hitmanWillyi don't think it matters, but you may want to put that immediately after the lo interface definition04:55
CrunchyFerrett*SCREAM*04:55
afaithrebooting now04:56
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intelikeyi tried to use screem one time...  didn't like it.04:56
hitmanWillyafaiyou don't have to04:56
hitmanWillycrap...04:56
intelikeyhe said he had too whether it was fixed or not  ^^^04:56
hitmanWillyi was just going to have him restart the network04:56
hitmanWillyoh well, that'll work too04:56
CrunchyFerrettwell..04:57
CrunchyFerretthere's somethign new I suppose04:57
marcelolHello folks04:57
intelikey<afaith> intelikey: i'm more than patience even if i've got only 30 minutes to solve this ... i'm going to a nearby resort and i have to reboot my pc now, to take it to another room <<<<<04:57
marcelolAnyone have any success with "nvidia-settings" ?04:57
hitmanWillyoh, that must have been when i was looking at my buntu box :)04:57
intelikeyyep04:57
CrunchyFerrettlsmod tells me that ndiswrapper is loaded, but it has a 0 in the "used by" column04:58
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hitmanWillynetworking setup is one thing ive noticed that changes distro to distro04:58
marcelolintellikey : You ?04:58
intelikeymarcelol ! i    my nvidia card is not even supported... sorry04:59
hitmanWillymarcelol: what is the problem with it?04:59
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marcelolnvidia-glx detects resolution by default at 1024x768 ( even though 1680x1050 is supported ...I'm running in that now, because nvidia-settings switched modes )..04:59
marcelolhowever, when I try to get nvidia-settings to save it's settings back to xorg.conf...it says it can't write to it..05:00
marcelolI tried running nvidia-settings through kdesu...and nada05:00
hitmanWillymarcelol: ok, two ways of doing this, you want easy or hard?05:00
marcelolit'll say "Error : failed to generate and X config file05:01
marcelolhitmanWilly: Easy.....please05:01
hitmanWillymarcelol: ok, open a terminal05:01
marceloldone05:01
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hitmanWillymarcelol: now, cd to .kde/Autostart05:01
marceloldone05:02
hitmanWillymarcelol: nano startup.sh05:02
marceloldone05:02
hitmanWillymarcelol: add these lines:05:02
hitmanWilly#!/bin/sh05:02
hitmanWillynvidia-settings --load-config-only05:03
marceloldone05:03
marcelolthe : nvidia..etc..etc....on the same line, or another line ?05:03
hitmanWillysecond line05:03
marceloldone05:03
hitmanWillymarcelol: save and exit nano05:04
hitmanWillyctrl-x05:04
marceloldone05:04
hitmanWillymarcelol: chmod +x startup.sh05:04
intelikeythat's ./.kde/Autostart/startup.sh05:04
marceloldone05:04
marcelolyup05:04
Lunar_Lamp!beryl05:05
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:05
marceloluh....wait05:05
hitmanWillyintelikey: he's in .kde/Autostart05:05
marcelolit's   ~/.kde/Autostart05:05
intelikeyyeah05:05
marcelolok...done05:05
intelikeyhitmanWilly i missed the cd  sorry.05:05
hitmanWillymarcelol: ok, now anytime you restart kde it should load your settings from nvidia-settings05:05
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hitmanWillymarcelol: ok, part two...05:06
marcelolready05:06
hitmanWillysudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.config05:07
marcelolstill in .kde/Autostart05:07
marcelolahh..ok05:07
marcelol.config or .conf ?05:07
intelikeyxorg.config ?  not  xorg.conf ?05:07
hitmanWillyyeah, sorry05:07
marcelolok...done05:07
hitmanWillyok, scroll down to where you see all the resolution settings05:08
hitmanWillyshould be at the very bottom05:08
marceloldone05:08
hitmanWillymarcelol: you see the various blocks for different color depths?05:09
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marcelolyeah05:10
marcelolnone of them have the res that this screen really supports05:10
hitmanWillymarcelol: there should be long lines of res settings in quotes, add "1680x1050" to the beginning of each of those lists05:10
intelikeywrite it in05:10
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intelikeyeach or at least the default depth05:11
hitmanWillymarcelol: or whatever res you want to use05:11
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marceloldone, added them05:11
chrisjs169 I can't seem to play DVDs on Kubuntu - I get the following (Includes error from kaffeine, as well as from /var/log/messages): http://pastebin.ca/60047305:12
hitmanWillymarcelol: ok, save and exit05:12
marceloldone05:12
hitmanWillymarcelol: now, the next time you restart X it should default to the desired res05:12
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=== intelikey wonders if anyone would consider this http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37897 as an issue for a console only type user ???
CrunchyFerrettchris, I had that same problem.05:12
marcelolok...05:12
marcelolbrb...let me give it a shot05:12
intelikey!dvd | chrisjs16905:12
ubotuchrisjs169: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:12
CrunchyFerrettYou need to download and install the libdvdcss2 thing05:12
chrisjs169it's already installed05:13
chrisjs169i even tried upgrading it today05:13
hitmanWillyintelikey: yeah, w3m gives me the same thing05:14
intelikeyme too05:14
CrunchyFerrettinstalled libdvd3 ?05:14
hitmanWillyintelikey: apparently, ubuntu is for gui types only :P05:14
intelikey:)05:14
CrunchyFerretter libdvdread305:14
hitmanWillyat least the gentoo sites work in console browsers...05:15
chrisjs169CrunchyFerrett: IIRC - checking05:15
intelikeyhitmanWilly it doesn't bother me really. i use mc to edit with...  even though it's buggy...05:15
chrisjs169CrunchyFerrett: yes, it's installed05:15
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=== hitmanWilly uses a mix of gui/terminal apps...and usually has about 20 different Eterm windows open
CrunchyFerrettchris: Oh. Then ive got nothign for you, sorry man.05:16
TrueFXhi guys05:16
hitmanWillyi use what works for me, and WindowMaker really isn't that heavy of a WM :P05:17
chrisjs169CrunchyFerrett: ok - I've swapped the DVD drive for one I know works - no dice05:17
TrueFXwhat is the key sequence for going at the beginning of a word in bash shell05:17
TrueFXin konsole05:17
intelikeyyeah yeah yeah but i bet you don't have memory stats like mine ;p    Memory Used/Total Percent: 9/250 MB (3%)05:17
intelikeySwap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)05:17
TrueFXand at the end of word05:17
TrueFXfor deleting a wor d05:17
TrueFXif that's possible05:17
TrueFXhow can i list and change key sequences for bash shell?05:17
hitmanWillyintelikey: nope, but I have a little bit more RAM to play around with :)05:18
marcelolhitmanWilly: You are the man !05:19
marcelolrestarted X and it came back up in the right res05:19
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marcelolnow if reboot, I hope it'll do the same05:19
intelikeyTrueFX it's not the shell that you want it's konsole  configure it maybe.05:19
marceloleven Beryl is behaving...05:19
hitmanWillymarcelol: to X its the same thing05:19
marcelolnow to figure out how to slow down the mouse-drag thing05:19
chrisjs169anyone else have suggestions for my dvd issue?05:20
hitmanWillymarcelol: also, a little side note, any command you want to run on kde startup, put it in that shell script I had you write05:20
intelikeychrisjs169 what player are you trying to use ?05:20
marcelolhitmanWilly: Oh I'm sure....presence..that when I was in college....I first started doing UI work in X, then Motif, then "graduated" and I was cast into the wilderness of the Windows/OS/2 UI ...have returned to whence I first began...tis a journey05:21
chrisjs169intelikey: xine/kaffeine05:21
hitmanWillyback in a sec05:21
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K-RyanHey guys05:22
intelikeyhmmm have you tried vlc or gxine to see if it worked in either of those chrisjs16905:22
K-RyanI managed to burn DSL off the other computer and now I'm running it.05:22
intelikeyand yes i know that gxine is a gtk app05:22
K-RyanThis is sooooo going on my old computer05:22
chrisjs169intelikey: ok, i'm installing vlc right now05:22
intelikeychrisjs169 mplayer is another choice...05:25
chrisjs169intelikey: mplayer didn't work =/05:25
intelikeyyeah it's probably using xine too05:26
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intelikeychrisjs169 redundant i'm sure but you do have   libxine-extracodecs  ?05:27
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chrisjs169intelikey: apt-get says it's installed05:27
intelikeyk,  well did vlc work for you ?05:28
hitmanWillyok, back05:28
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chrisjs169intelikey: testing it now05:28
=== intelikey does vlc with svgalibs full screen in console mode, no x needed to watch movies...
intelikeys/does/did/   haven't in a while...05:30
chrisjs169intelikey: it's at least trying to read from the dvd drive - the LED is blinking, and i haven't gotten any error messages yet05:30
chrisjs169but it seems it still isn't playing05:30
intelikey;/05:31
marcelolhas anyone tried the new nvidia drivers and restricted modules that adept says are available ?05:31
intelikeychrisjs169 no errors ?05:32
chrisjs169intelikey: it hasn't given me any05:33
intelikeythat makes it awfully hard to try to fix....05:33
chrisjs169intelikey: the led only flashes when manually selecting the vob file though - not when simply selecting open disk05:33
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chrisjs169intelikey: lol - the dvd drive works, just not on Kubuntu =/05:34
chrisjs169intelikey: that pastebin link contains info from Kaffeine and dmesg05:35
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chrisjs169a sledge hammer might work =P05:35
chrisjs169(http://pastebin.ca/600473)05:35
intelikeyyeah i read that.  but it didn't help me help you....05:35
chrisjs169I have Ubuntu on another computer - it's just about midnight here, so I guess I could try it on that in the morning05:36
intelikeythe only thing that the pastebin might be saying that we havent covered, is that it's a special disk anti-freedom lock  disk has bad sectors that the propritary non-free junk is supposed to ignore....05:39
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intelikeyme hates fritz trusted computing crapppppp05:40
chrisjs169special disk anti-freedom lock  disk?05:40
intelikeydoesn't stop theft only makes it harder on the honest people.05:40
chrisjs169ah, DRM05:41
intelikeychrisjs169 yeah one of the security measures used by some anti-copy junk is to intentionally make bad sectors on the disk...05:41
intelikeyyes   TCG DRM and friends.05:42
chrisjs169intelikey: so it's a DVD that possibly could never play on (K)Ubuntu?05:42
intelikeypossably  i'm not ready to commit to that answer but it is possable05:42
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chrisjs169ok05:43
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dsmith_hi05:44
chrisjs169where in the pastebin does it mention the bad sectors - the I/O errors?05:44
dsmith_hmmm wrong colors05:44
ubuntu_Hi05:44
intelikeyyes i/o error  on /dev/sr*05:44
K-RyanHi dsmith_, Hi ubuntu_05:44
chrisjs169ok05:44
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ubuntu_I am going to loose it soon05:45
K-RyanWhat's wrong?05:45
ubuntu_is someone running 2 screen with Kubuntu?05:45
chrisjs169i'll see if i can get another dvd working tomorrow - thanks for all your help05:45
intelikeychrisjs169 yeah, and some fresh heads to bounce your problem off of may help too...05:45
ubuntu_I see that people around the net are able to, but my fucking windows braindead is not helping.  I want to trash Windows!!!  But 2-3-4-5 screens setup is a must for me05:47
K-Ryan!ohmy05:47
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:47
ubuntu_and Kubuntu, OpenSUSE or Fedora can't handle it out of the box...05:47
intelikeyi tried to setup a linux box that would put a console on one screen and xorg on the other.... never got it to do what i wanted tho.  i wanted it to write to both but could only get one or the other...05:47
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ubuntu_so?  any other punks who runs multi sreens on Kubuntu?05:48
greywolfhey hitmanWilly05:48
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greywolfsorry I didn't respond earlier, I went to dinner05:49
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greywolfit looks like I'm gonna have to do that clean install now :[05:49
intelikeygutzy ?05:49
dsmith_well, turned another person onto linux today05:50
K-Ryangreywolf: Never fixed it? That's too bad...05:50
dsmith_one person a day for me..05:50
dsmith_:)05:50
K-Ryandsmith_ Way to go!05:50
intelikeygreywolf of  ?05:50
chrisjs169intelikey: "gutsy" - was that to me?05:50
klobsterso I am hoping to learn about backing up my system05:50
intelikeychrisjs169 no.05:50
chrisjs169ok05:50
dsmith_!sbackup05:50
ubotusbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe05:50
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greywolfintelikey: I was here a bit earlier05:51
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greywolfK-Ryan: yeah05:51
K-RyanI love Linux05:51
klobsterok, but specifically what files should I pay attention to? (obviously /home, but what else?)05:51
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dsmith_klobster: or you can do a dual-boot and backup he entire machine with Acronis.05:51
dsmith_:)05:51
K-RyanI never got off this DSL Live CD05:51
greywolfI did partition my hard drive for the OS files and the other stuff, though05:51
K-Ryan8% of my RAM is being used and I have 0% CPU Usage05:51
K-RyanI'm putting this on my old computer first thing in the morning05:51
klobsterdsmith: couldn't I do the same thing through dd?05:51
dsmith_i've ben having troubles w/ superkaramba for whatever reason05:52
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dsmith_oh well05:52
dsmith_dd??05:52
intelikeyklobster dd will backup free space as well as data05:52
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dsmith_superkaramba has all these desktop widgets, that shows status and such.05:52
dsmith_sbackup, seemed to takeup alot cpu processing power05:53
klobsterI was looking at rsync; I was hoping to figuree out a way to do a backup to 1 or 2 DVD's, and then use rsync and gmailfs to snapshot the diff05:54
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intelikeyklobster /home /etc /var/lib /boot /lib   depending on what all you have in mind of backing up.   that was decreesing order of course.05:54
klobsterthen cron it and forget it05:54
klobsterwhat about /etc and /usr ? important, or no?05:55
dsmith_the last time I time I tried restoring certain files, it hosed my setup05:55
dsmith_so I wiped the drive and installed fiesty05:55
dsmith_what about /opt?05:55
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intelikeytop two unless you are trying to protect against  a root kit or something.05:56
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intelikeyklobster etc is.  usr not so much05:56
klobster /opt is unimportant05:57
intelikeytop two.  /home /etc       my /opt is empty05:57
intelikeyif you have things in /opt you consider important back it up by all means.05:57
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dsmith_thunderbird and a few others are placed there05:57
klobsterintelikey: what about /var/dpkg? could I use the logs to restore all my programs?  or is it a pain?05:58
RamonHello I'm having a really weird one for you guys :o ... http://rafb.net/p/3s67Xd81.html   the bios is 199805:58
dsmith_I rather st backup the entire drive, and do incrementals daily05:58
jaimehello05:58
dsmith_hello05:58
klobsterintelikey: I keep a static bash in opt, just in case.05:58
intelikeybut personal data is in /home  and system configs are in /etc     and i'm tired of repeting that.....05:58
dsmith_aye05:58
jaimeany speak spanish05:59
intelikey!es05:59
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:59
klobsterintelikey: yes i knew that, I'm sorry I made you repeat it.05:59
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klobsterramon: if you press ctrl-alt-F1, you can see the full error of what is breaking down, then we could be more helpfull06:00
dsmith_anyone hear? HP is considering coming out with Ubuntu laptops now.06:00
greywolfno I didn't06:00
greywolfbut that's pretty cool06:00
Ramonklobster I did06:00
Ramonklobster: that is what it is showing me06:00
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Ramonit is ata1.00 : exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 Serr 0x0 actuib 0x2 frozen     ata1.00 cmd c8/00:00:b7:11:b4/00:00:00:00:/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 131072 in06:02
klobsterramon: live CD or install?06:02
Ramoninstall06:03
klobsterdid it work with the livecd?  also what version?06:03
Ramonsure06:03
Ramonit works fine06:03
intelikeyRamon looks like a driver/bios conflict  maybe try adding    noacpi  to the kernel line and then boot ?06:03
Ramonand if i take the hd and take it to this computer it works fine... so yeah.. intelikey could be right .. i guess could be the bios..06:03
Ramonhow do I add it  intelikey?06:03
Ramonacpi=off or noacpi?06:04
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intelikeywhen grub first comes up hit [esc]   then select the boot option and hit [e]   then  select the "kernel" line and  [e]    add  well add both then we are sure to cover it.   and hit [enter]   [b] 06:05
Ramonok let me try06:05
klobsterramon: is it ide or sata? pci card or onboard?06:05
intelikeythey are suposed to do the same thing     acpi=off and noacpi06:06
Ramonide06:06
Ramonit is ide06:06
intelikeyklobster you thinking he may need to cull the sata driver from the initramfs ?06:07
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crash_VICTORY!!06:08
crash_I DID IT!06:08
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CrunchyFerrettThe Wireless is functional!!06:08
Ramonsame thing06:08
K-RyanAwesome06:08
intelikeyi don't know any way to prevent the initramfs from loading it, do you ?     i mean other than building another initramfs.img that doesn't contain that module06:08
klobsterwell, similar errors point to conflicts with pci cards, and wierd raid implemetations06:08
Ramonthe same thing happened... and i guess that it goes automatically to noacpi06:08
Ramoneven tho we dont add it06:09
intelikeyRamon any raid arrays ?06:09
klobsterintelikey: well there may be a boot flag for it, but I would have to hit the logs06:09
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Ramonno raid06:10
intelikeywell i'm going to have to let you gents handle it,  4am is too late for me to be up.      gooday and good luck to your pinguin06:11
Ramongood night bro06:11
Ramonand thx :)06:11
Ramonso klobster haha.. it is weird isnt it06:11
klobsterramon: does the bios support a raid array? also what kernel version.06:12
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Ramonthe latest one... cannot do uname -r but it is the latest alt that i downloaded06:13
wsjunioris /etc/acpi/fglrx-powermode.sh script supposed to work automatically?06:13
klobsterramon it should give you kernel # during boot, in grub...06:13
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Ramonyah but the thing is that it gives me the same issue06:14
klobsteris this a separate system than the one you are on?06:14
Ramonhow do you disable dma mode? coulde be that?06:14
Ramonyeah another one06:14
klobsterboot to the grub screen and tell me which kernel it says, wait are you on gutsy, or fiesty?06:15
Ramonfiesty06:15
wsjuniori would like to save battery life of my laptop switching to powerstate=1 of my ati xpress 200m card but it doesnt happen automatically as it should (i guess)06:15
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wsjuniorif i execute ./etc/acpi/fglrx-powermode.sh by hand when i switch to battery mode it changes the card powerstate to 1 but doesnt make any effect automatically06:16
wsjunioris it supposed to work?06:16
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wsjuniorim pretty sad about my battery life in kubuntu. it remains for at least 2 hours in windows and nothing more than 30 min in kubuntu06:18
TrueFXhi guys06:19
TrueFXi ve got a problem with my network06:19
TrueFXi can connect to irc as u can see06:19
TrueFXbut when it comes to surfing06:19
TrueFXi cant do it06:19
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TrueFXafter rebooting the computer for a few minutes 2 or so i can surf in internet06:19
TrueFXthen when i write a url in conqueror nothing happens06:20
wsjuniorkonqueror06:20
TrueFXwhat may be the possible problem?06:20
TrueFXi cant even see an error code06:20
wsjuniorcheck ur dns configs06:20
Ramonand for my issue.. no ideas?06:20
wsjuniorwhat /etc/resolv.conf show?06:20
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TrueFX# generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!06:21
TrueFXnameserver 192.168.1.106:21
TrueFXmy routers ip06:21
klobsterramon: sorry researching possible boot flags06:21
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Ramonahh ok klobster :) be here06:21
Ramonthanx man06:21
klobsterramon: did you find out the kernel version?06:22
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klobster2.6.20-16, no?06:22
TrueFXin my routers internal settings there are 2 dns servers 195.175.39.4006:22
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TrueFXand 195.175.39.3906:22
Ramonyeah thats my kernel i guess06:22
Ramonif thats the latest one for ubuntu stable yeah06:22
Ramoncuz i downloaded the latest alt06:23
TrueFXand i can ping my dns server06:23
TrueFXi mean remote dns server and also my router06:23
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admin___hi!06:23
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wsjuniorTrueFX: put those ips in /etc/resolv.conf06:23
Ramonis there a way to disable dma mode for the hd?06:24
wsjuniortwo lines like: nameserver firstip06:24
admin___quien habla espaol?06:24
admin___quien habla espaol?06:24
wsjuniorand the other one in a new line06:24
wsjunioradmin___: try ubuntu-es06:24
Dr_Willis_!es06:24
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:24
klobsteroh, this isn't a fresh install?06:24
klobsterit worked previous?06:24
Dr_Willis_Ramon,  hdparm command to enable/disable dma modes. Not sure why you want to disable it.06:25
Ramonklobster: it worked on this computer the one im using right now06:25
Ramonit is not working on the one with the 1998 bios06:25
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Ramondr. willis haha cuz i dont know what else to do06:25
TrueFXwsjunior:does order matter?06:25
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bryanHow can I use my PPC cell phone on Kubuntu?06:26
klobsterramon: well you could try to update the bios.06:26
klobsteror you can try to add this to the kernel line combined_mode=libata06:26
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wsjuniorTrueFX: not really06:27
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level1How come I can't find quantra on the repos?06:27
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Ramonhow that would be klobster.. grub menu (esc)... then select the boot option (e) select the kernel(e) type combined_mode=libata and then press (b)?06:27
TrueFXUnknown host www.google.com06:28
TrueFXi cant ping by name www.google.com06:28
TrueFXand i donno its ip by heart06:28
TrueFXcan someone write it here so that i can try to ping it06:28
wsjunioris /etc/acpi/fglrx-powermode.sh script supposed to work automatically?06:28
bryansync with kubuntu06:28
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ubunturosKPilot?06:28
klobsterramon: yeah, are you familiar with where to place the text?06:28
wsjuniorTrueFX: 64.233.161.9906:28
Ramonmmmm i dot know cuz after i press e in the kernel it shows me a big line06:28
Ramoni mean.. a script06:29
Ramonand i guess at the end of it leaving a space right?06:29
klobsterDr_Willis:  http://rafb.net/p/3s67Xd81.html06:29
TrueFXyep i can ping google too06:30
klobsterramon: you need to select the line that starts with: /vmlinuz06:30
Ramonyeah thats the one06:30
Ramon:)06:30
TrueFXif my isp changes dns servers06:30
TrueFXnormally the information in my router should change automatically too?06:31
klobsteran then you add it after the name of your kernel, and you might as well take out quiet and splash while we are there06:31
K-RyanI'm out guys, going to go install DSL on my old computer =)06:31
TrueFXwsjunior: probably that's related with dns right?06:31
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Ramonok let me try klobster :)06:31
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klobsteralso, have you tried to boot from the old kernel? and do you have any other hard disks/cd drives connected to the ide slots on that system?06:32
Ramonno i dont have anything else.. just the IDE HD06:33
Ramoni unplugged the cd rom06:33
Ramonand there are no other kernels showing in there06:33
klobsterramon: so? go or nogo?06:34
TrueFXhow can i list all ip addresses in my lan?06:34
Ramonnothing klobster.. now it says: support DPO or FUA sda: sda1 sda2 (sda5) attached scsi disk sda attached scsi generic sg0 type 006:34
Dr_Willis_TrueFX,  use a scanner like nmap, or if they all got samba shares. ive used smb4k to see them/ip's06:34
Ramonand my disk is not scsi haha06:34
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sparrthe ubuntu clamav packages complain to my cron logs (and thus my email) that they are out of date.  is this a bug?  i dont want to know if there isnt a new package yet.  how can i fix it?06:36
klobsterramon: sda is the new hda, don't get me started about it.  do you know what type of controller you are running?06:37
klobsteride controller.06:37
Ramonklobster: no idea :o06:37
Ramonklobster: what do you mean by controller?06:37
sparrRamon: the libata jerks decided to call all drives sd*, scsi or otherwise06:37
crimsunsparr: the *clam* issues are being discussed, enroute to a resolution soon.06:37
Ramonit sux :( haha06:38
Ramonand as i told you... not working with the libata or with the noacpi06:38
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klobsterramon: well we could try combined_mode=ide06:41
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klobsterramon: I mean your ide controller, do you know what type it is?06:42
sparrcrimsun: interesting.  might they have been under discussion the previous dozen times ive asked this month?  :)06:42
crimsunsparr: MOTU meeting archives.06:42
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Ramonklobster: let me try the combined_mode=ide06:43
Ramoni dont know what controller it is...06:43
klobsterramon: do you know what motheroard you have?06:43
Ramonyeah.. it is a sis06:44
Ramonlet me see the model06:44
Ramonsis 559506:44
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klobstersis 530?06:46
Ramonyeah thats what it sas06:46
Ramonsays06:46
Ramonjust a question.. what is irqpoll?06:46
Ramoncuz i was reading that sometimes it boots with that option06:47
klobsterwhere did you see that?06:48
lou_can someone help me ? How do I change the font and resolution in a CLI ??06:48
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Dr_Willis_the console, you can set the font with err.. Hmm  let me check06:49
Dr_Willis_ consolechars   - is the command for the fonts.06:49
Ramonklobster: here06:49
Dr_Willis_Resolution is part of the framebuffer stuff I belive.  I always disable all that :)06:49
Ramonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/7828806:49
lou_thanks Dr_Willis. Good tip.Just want to press ctrl+alt+F1 and have more than 40 letters/line....06:50
klobsteryou can try it, but I think changing bios settings may be more likely to fix this one.06:51
Ramonbut it is not giving me any options.. just the old options old motherboards had06:52
klobstersuch as?06:52
Ramonlet me get into the bios.. (sorry if i take some time but the computer is not close to me :$)06:52
Ramonwait06:52
Ramonit says /bin/bash cant access tty: job control turned off... and then it says (initramfs)06:53
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Jackzhales06:53
klobsterthat was booting with which option?06:54
Ramoncombined_mode=ide06:54
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Ramonbut after a looooooong looong time06:54
Ramonbefore that it says check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat/ /proc/modules ls /dev ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell.. then busybox v 1.1.3 debian blah blah.. and then the initramfs06:56
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CrunchyFerrettHah! Found another way to fix it!06:58
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Ramon?06:59
klobsterramon: well it confirms the libata issue, although not in a good way.07:01
wsjuniorusing powernowd my max cpu freq is 2.2GHZ but when i start switch to battery and then back to ac it only achieve 1.8, never 2.2 again, how can i fix it?07:01
Ramon:(07:01
Ramonbut do you think there's a way to fix it?07:01
fignewwsjunior: what if you use 100% cpu?07:02
wsjuniorits using performance governor07:03
wsjuniorshould be always using the max07:03
wsjunior2.20GHz in my case07:03
wsjuniorcpufreq-info shows current CPU frequency is 1.80 GHz07:04
wsjuniorsudo cpufreq-set -f 2.20GHz returns no error07:04
wsjuniorbut its still 1.80GHz07:04
wsjunior:/07:04
CrunchyFerrettAnd on to the next problem!07:05
CrunchyFerrettHow can I access the network shares on my WinServer 2003 box?07:05
wsjuniorSamba?07:05
klobsterramon: let's try this can you disable the floppy frive in the bios?07:05
CrunchyFerrettI figured Samba, but can that be installed on server03?07:06
CrunchyFerrettCan linux access server shares from a Win2003 AD server?07:06
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morph_anyone used iraf on ubuntu before?07:07
Ramonit is disabled hehe :$07:08
morph_iraf is?07:08
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klobsterok we could add a line to the grub: break=top that should open us up to some modprobe options07:09
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Ramoncool let me check07:09
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Ramonklobster: same thing .. took me to initramfs but this time was faster07:11
klobstercan you type?07:12
Ramonsure07:12
morph_also having problems when starting 7.04 hangs after it says "doing normal boot"07:12
klobsterI mean, it's not locked up?07:12
Ramonnah it is not07:12
Ramonit lets me type07:12
klobstertry: modprobe sis551307:13
Ramonok let me check..07:13
klobsterramon: and then exit07:13
Ramontype exit?07:14
Ramonit sohwd me a lot of things07:14
Ramonide controller at pci slot blah blah.. chipset.. sis620 ata controler... bm dma at .... hda wdc wd ata disk drive.. ide0 at 0x....etc on irq1407:14
klobsteryeah, type exit07:15
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Ramondid it :)... now it is stucked on fdc 0 is a post-1991 8207707:15
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klobsterfdc? I thought yopu turned off the floppy in the bios?  did you also remove it?07:16
Ramonyeah haha07:16
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Ramonit is not there since i purchased the computer and it is also disabled.07:16
klobsterramon: it may get past it, just give it a sec07:16
Ramoni purchased it for 20 bucks haha07:17
Ramon500 mhz and 128 ram...07:17
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Ramontook me back to initramfs07:18
morph_is iraf similar to idl?07:18
klobsterwell I would suggest either: a reinstalling using the edgy cd, and then doing an upgrade over the net07:19
klobsterb: switching the disk back over to the other system booting it and getting another kernel07:20
Ramonill try that. just let me see if this works07:20
Ramonhow can i get another kernel?07:20
klobsteror c: switching to the other system and trying this workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10777407:20
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klobsterramon: you can get one out of adept, just look for either a new one, or the previous version 2.6.20-16 is current07:21
Ramonyeah i guess thats the one this compuer has07:21
Ramonill try something07:22
Ramoni have a debian on another computer07:22
Ramonill try switching hdd07:22
Ramonlet me check07:22
klobsteryou need to edit the initramfs.conf, but it needs to be mounted to do so.07:22
CrunchyFerrett...07:22
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CrunchyFerrettI think I just broke the Su user07:22
klobsterdid you see the workaround in that page?07:23
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kioskhow come CrunchyFerrett07:23
klobsterhow can you break a nonexistant user?07:23
kiosk?07:23
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CrunchyFerrettnot sure07:23
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CrunchyFerrettBut when I try to do anything in KDE that wants root privs, I get a "Su retuned with an error."07:24
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kioskis su the same a sudo?07:25
CrunchyFerrett*shrug*07:26
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morph_what is a good idl type program i can use on ubuntu?07:27
CrunchyFerrettah. I seem to have taken myself out of the sudoers group.07:28
CrunchyFerrettor somethin07:28
klobstergroup adm?07:29
CrunchyFerrettappears to be so07:29
CrunchyFerrettmy sudoers file is empty07:29
klobsterI'm no expert but that sucks07:30
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CrunchyFerrettand of course I dont have permissions to edit the file.07:30
CrunchyFerrettgroovy07:30
CrunchyFerrettbrb07:30
marcelolis loving Linux more and more everyday......07:30
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marcelolbegins to question the efficacy of programming in Windows anymore...oh yeah..it pays the bills :(07:31
klobsterbmaybe boot off the liveCD, and bind your root partition?07:31
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kiosk\leave07:34
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TheCreationistIs there any way to configure my gnome panel to close an application when I middle click it's button in the taskbar?07:37
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klobsterthecreationist: this channel is KDE specific, try ubuntu for gnome info07:40
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crash_fixed it07:44
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crash_Man, you can pretty much fix anything in Linux with an hour or so in google07:44
makuseruare there any good flight simulators for linux?07:45
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miltoshi ppl:-)07:47
morph_i still want an IDL type program for linux- free of course07:47
TheCreationistklobster: Yeah, I was a KDE fan until I realized that the Ubuntu community really doesn't give a crap about KDE.  So I switched to gnome.  I've tried asking in #ubuntu, but got no responses.07:47
CrunchyFerretthowdy07:47
miltoswhat's the best download manager for kubuntu?07:49
DjDarkmanWhy doesn`t lock screen work in xgl?07:49
jlundTheCreationist: Not sure how you can say that they "don't give a crap" about KDE.07:49
morph_how good is gnome compared to kde07:49
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morph_i havent used gnome at all07:49
greywolf_makuseru: what kind of flight simulator?07:49
DjDarkmanmorph_: it may be lighter07:49
greywolf_WWII, futuristic, etc...?07:50
morph_like bluetooth and networkmanager07:50
makuserurealistic07:50
marcelolmiltos: I use aria...sure it's not so glitzy..but it works great07:50
DjDarkmanmorph_: if you want a light desktop, then you should rather use XFCE07:50
TheCreationistjlund: It's pretty much common knowledge that Kubuntu is the neglected aspect of Ubuntu.07:50
greywolf_makuseru: ah, then you probably wouldn't like Vega Strike so much07:51
marcelolTheCreationist: I...wouldn't say they don't give a .....about KDE....07:51
TheCreationistIt doesn't get nearly as much attention from developers as gnome.07:51
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greywolf_TheCreationist: it will when KDE4 is out ;)07:51
marcelolWhat's the first thing anyone does once they realize they can't Shiznitz done in gnome ?......move to KDE.07:51
morph_whne should that be?07:52
jlundTheCreationist: Yeah, you are kind of just talking out of your ass right now. Can you back these statements up with any evidence at all?07:52
TheCreationistgreywolf_: Yeah, that's what they said just before KDE 3 came out ;)07:52
TheCreationistBut okay.07:52
greywolf_heh07:52
TheCreationistjlund: Hmm... first of all many of the regulars in HERE have said the same.07:52
miltosmarcelo: adept reports aria and aria2 which one is the best?07:52
marcelolthere's nothing you can do in gnome right now that you can't do in KDE...07:52
morph_when is 4kde4 suppose to be out07:52
marcelolaria2 is just a script wrapper..07:52
TheCreationistjlund: Second, the stability of Kubuntu is NOTHING compared to the stability of Ubuntu.07:52
marcelolarias actually has a UI07:52
marcelolaria07:52
miltosmarcelol:thanks07:53
TheCreationistjlund: Also, with Kubuntu Feisty, where are the 3D desktop effects?  The automatic installation of restricted drivers and codecs?07:53
marcelolstability ? if it weren't for the fsking nvidia driver....I wouldn't have had to reboot thing thing for anything...07:53
TheCreationistjlund: I rest my case. :P07:53
morph_so gnome has apps like knerwork manager07:54
marcelolOy ! "Auto install" ? yeah....and where's the "working" bcm43xx driver in ubuntu...hint: it doesn't..please there's plenty to sling around..07:54
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CrunchyFerrett.. 3d desktop effects?07:54
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marcelolmorph: the answer would be uh......no07:55
miltosmarcelol: is there any way to unrar a series of password protected files?07:55
CrunchyFerrettYeah it took me forever to get my bcm43xx card working.07:55
CrunchyFerrettBut I DID IT by god07:55
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morph_kool, well i just got my KDE looking nice and working stable07:55
jlundTheCreationist: 1st point - Heresay. People like you coming in here with your "common knowledge" based on nothing could be responsible for the kind of statements you refer to. 2nd point - I've run both Gnome and KDE for over a year each and Kubuntu is not any less stable. 3rd point - Desktop effects are coming in KDE 4.0. Plasma is going to be awesome. Also I can tell that you really are talking out of your ass because Amarok and K3b07:55
jlundand others all tell you when you don't have mp3 support installed and offer to set it up for you.07:55
marcelolmiltos: not my area of knowledge, dude...my answer would be YEAH....but I ain't the guy to ask07:55
morph_well except the knetwork manager desnt always show when KDE starts,  anyone know why?07:55
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miltosCan anybody tell me if is there any way to unrar a series of password protected files?07:56
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marcelolwho the hell is this "common knowledge" coming from ? Mr Monkey ?07:56
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TheCreationistjlund: I use both Amarok and K3b on Ubuntu just fine.  Before you attack my comments, perhaps you should get a little more information.  I'm not referring to KDE 4.  I'm talking about Feisty.  Kubuntu Feisty is ages behind Ubuntu Feisty in terms of stability and easy of use.07:56
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marcelolmorph....you sure you didn't turn something off ? mine always comes on automatically07:57
makuseruhow do i install a .deb in a terminal?07:57
TheCreationistjlund: I started using Linux with Kubuntu Edgy.  I love KDE.  I do.07:57
FoxFireummm how do you enable the restricted modules? I forgot07:57
morph_it shows a empty space where it should be07:57
TheCreationistjlund:  But when it comes to shear stability and features, the KDE version of Ubuntu absolutely sucks.07:57
marcelolTheCreationist: Whaaa ? GTFOH, what are you puffin ?07:58
morph_like a blank space between other apps07:58
jlundTheCreationist: I just think you are being silly. You come into the Kubuntu channel asking a Gnome question and justify it by insulting the stability of the distro variant that we are using. You are in the wrong both in fact and in presentation.07:58
FoxFireummm how do you enable the restricted modules? I forgot07:58
greywolf_TheCreationist: I must differ with you on your last point. I installed Kubuntu, then installed gnome and used that for 3 months and tried KDE again, and never went back. It seemed to me that KDE was more stable (except for one or two annoying things like the Konqueror filter crashing bug), and on the whole, much more robust.07:58
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jlundTheCreationist: In short, you are off-base regarding both the stability of Kubuntu and also the manner in which you are presenting yourself and asking questions.07:58
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marcelollike I said before....if it weren't for the driver instability of the nvidia-glx...I wouldn't have had any problems...07:59
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jlundTheCreationist: What a stupid way to ask for help!08:00
marcelolndiswrapper was no big deal to set up...and KNetworkManager is sooooo much easier than GWin ? Is that it ?08:00
TheCreationistjlund: I came here respectfully requesting some help with gnome since most people here have some experience with gnome.  When I was ridiculed for asking a gnome question here, I simply stated my reason for not using KDE.  I was jumped with insults immediately.  How is that me "presenting" myself incorrectly?08:00
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FoxFireumm k could I get some help, Ive forgotten how to enable the restricted modules cause I haven't had to reinstall for some time08:00
morph_why are you guys talking smak, linux is free use what you want to08:00
TheCreationistjlund: Okay, I'm not 12 and I resent you treating me as such.08:00
marcelolTheCreationist: No one "immediately jumped you" with insults...I think you're being a little defensive08:00
greywolf_FoxFire: look at your sources.list08:01
TheCreationistjlund: I mentioned my misgivings with Kubuntu based on my OWN experience and the comments made by regulars here.08:01
jlundTheCreationist: Bullshit. You came in here talking trash about Kubuntu and maligning the amount of support it receives from the Ubuntu community. Hilariously you completely neglect to see the irony in you coming into this channel that you are trashing because you didn't get help in #ubuntu.08:01
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marceloland even if I didn't like Gnome ( which I don't ), I wouldn't go into a room and then if I didn't get the feedback I wanted, sling da hash..........08:01
FoxFirethanks greywolf08:01
greywolf_well that's not all :P08:01
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pacmancan someone assist me in getting java runtime installed properly and plugged into firefox?08:02
TheCreationist"Kubuntu is the neglected child of Ubuntu, sadly."  - Jucato08:02
marceloldamn...here greywolf_ is trying to lend a guy a hand and all this diatribe is clouding the screen....STFU and have a coke and a smile already dude08:02
TheCreationistpacman: Install the plugin package as well, not just sun-java6-jre08:02
morph_how about helping instead of talking smak08:02
TheCreationistpacman: I believe the proper package is sun-java6-plugin08:03
greywolf_open it with sudo and add the word "restricted" to the lines of the fiesty repositories08:03
marcelolthere you go morph_08:03
FoxFireCreationist the great linus torvalds creator of linux says to use kde so meh that aside I can't stand gnome08:03
greywolf_lol FoxFire08:03
FoxFireit's all personal preference08:03
greywolf_marcelol: thanks :)08:03
jlundTheCreationist: I don't know who that is and what does that prove anyway? That is like me pasting a quote from you two months from now to prove that Kubuntu is less stable than Ubuntu. Total heresay with no basis in reality.08:04
morph_is there a bug with resume image when booting,  my computer hangs at this point08:04
marcelolFoxFire: and after all....every time Mr MonkeyBoy has told Linux to put up or shut up, and when he puts us...Mr MonkeyBoy shuts up...what does THAT tell you, about "support" ?08:04
marcelolyou're welcome greywolf_08:04
TheCreationistjlund: Whatever.  Shut up.  You don't know the answer to my question, fine.  Don't be an asshole and pick a fight because I have issues with KDE>08:05
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marceloljlund: third time I've said it...if it weren't for the nvidia-glx ( which is now resolved ).....Feisty Kubuntu wouldn't have given me any problems Feisty Ubuntu wouldn't have given anyone else.08:05
FoxFirethere's kinda a half lack there of lol08:05
pacmansweet...fixed...thanks08:06
marcelolTheCreationist: Good...you admitted you have issues, that's the first step towards recovery.08:06
TheCreationistpacman: My pleasure :)08:06
sumigamerguys I added beryl to the startup and now I want to remove it ( from the startup). How do i do this??08:06
morph_computer hang during boot at "resume image, doing normal boot"08:06
marcelolsumigamer: did you put it in startup.sh ? just go edit it out  and reboot08:06
jlundTheCreationist: Again, you're the asshole. My issue isn't that you have a problem with KDE it is the totally ridiculous manner in which you conducted yourself in here. Joining this channel to ask for help for a Gnome question and then trashing Kubuntu in #kubuntu. You're the only ass here.08:06
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TheCreationistjlund: Point taken.  Now shush.08:07
greywolf_too much drama for me, guys, I'm goin to bed :P08:07
greywolf_night08:07
TheCreationistgreywolf_: g'nite.08:07
morph_helpy!08:07
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marcelolTheCreationist : Dude....you really should switch to decaf...08:07
morph_think dual boot is causing the problem?08:07
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jlundTheCreationist: Yeah, I love that you come in here and stir things up with false and inflammatory statements and then tell me to shush.08:08
marcelolfinally....08:08
marceloljlund: it's not worth it.....even humor couldn't reach'm.....08:09
jlundThat was sure frustrating! I should know better than to participate in that kind of discussion. Sorry all.08:09
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marcelolif humor doesn't difuse someone with that train of thought.....nothing will..08:09
marcelolno worries.......but seriously....why is it 30% of KDE users today are previous Gnome users ? ....they finally woke up, that's why08:10
morph_wow kde4 is gonna look tight08:11
marcelolyeah.....but it's still a ways off...08:11
marcelolbut you're right....it'll be nice to finally tell Mr Monkey Boy and his tools to STFU finally08:12
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morph_like 4 months08:13
morph_right?08:13
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marcelolnot b4 the end of the year methinks08:14
jlundIt comes out the end of October08:14
marcelolyou think so ?08:14
erikja!vnc08:14
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:14
morph_yeah that is what i thought08:14
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jlundmarcelol: That is the roadmap that they have committed to.08:15
marcelolthinks there are some optimists in the room08:15
morph_on thier calender08:15
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marceloljlund: And I wish'm the best of luck meeting that time frame08:15
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FoxFirewhat does this mean beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3208:15
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morph_prolly means you should run in 24 bit08:15
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marcelolFoxFire:...uh yeah...what morph_ said08:16
jlundWhich means that Kubuntu Gutsy won't have KDE 4.0 as the default desktop but I read an interview with Jonathan Riddell and they are planning on having full packages for it as soon as it comes out. I can't wait.08:16
erikja!freenx08:16
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX08:16
sumigamer3I created a link the Kde autostart folder for beryl by the some command that the folks here at this channel gave me. Now how do i remove it??08:16
FoxFireIm just running default08:16
morph_defualt depth should be set to 2408:16
marcelolnvidia-settings says the display can run 32, but I leave it at 24 in xorg.conf as default....08:16
morph_its normally 16 i think08:16
jlundaKademy is running right now and they are doing a full coding marathon for a week. We should have some really solid idea of where things stand after the conference.08:16
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morph_i tried beryl but it was too unstable08:17
marcelolmorph_: yes....it likes to drop back to 16 for some insance reason08:17
morph_kept having problems starting apps08:17
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marcelolis running it now....after hitmanWilly gave'm the heads up08:18
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marcelolapps like what morph_ ?08:18
morph_any app08:18
marcelolwhoa08:18
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marcelolthat's just wrong08:18
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morph_would give me an error08:18
morph_yeah had to logout08:18
morph_then log in again08:19
marcelol<-- is running it on an old-ass Inspiron laptop right now08:19
marcelol4 year old lappy08:19
morph_wow08:19
morph_i have a m121008:19
marcelolnew HW...you shouldn't be having problems08:19
marcelolm1210 is like what ? year and a half old ?08:20
sumigamer3I created a link the Kde autostart folder for beryl by the some command that the folks here at this channel gave me. Now how do i remove it??08:20
morph_naw new08:20
morph_like a few months08:20
marceloldamn dawg....you sure you install the right drivers ?08:21
marcelolyou should be able to use the newer nv-glx driver08:21
FoxFireI think it's the nvidia driver I'm running08:21
marcelolor are yo ati ?08:21
morph_nvidia08:21
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marcelolFoxFire: You should make sure you remove the nv-glx driver....switch back to the def nv one08:22
morph_click show hidden fils08:22
morph_files08:22
marcelolthen install the nv-glx driver that most appropriately matches your config08:22
FoxFirewhat default nvidia?08:22
morph_err your usernam of course08:23
marcelolnv08:23
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marcelolit's installed by default08:23
FoxFireI used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:23
marcelolthat sounds right08:23
marceloland you enabled it...08:23
FoxFireyep08:23
marceloland then added the argbglxvisuals ?08:23
marcelolare you unable to reboot and go directly to the login ?08:24
FoxFirewould that be this? sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2408:24
marcelolyes..08:24
marcelolafter you enable the driver08:24
marcelolonce you've done that...08:24
marcelolrestart X.....ctl-alt-BKSPACE....08:24
morph_arent you suppose to # out glx for nvidia cards?08:24
morph_when using beryl08:24
FoxFirek brb08:25
marcelolthen try running kdesu nvidia-settings and having it detect your card, etc...etc ONE time..08:25
marcelolthen you should be able to reboot and come straight in08:25
_Iamdawith PC running,,is it ok to shut down the monitor at will, leave it down 2hrs. or 23hrs., or 2 weeks...?08:25
marcelolis running it with it now08:25
makuseru!flightgear08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flightgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
_Iamdayes08:26
marcelolmind you I turned disable GL Yield08:26
Admiral_Chicago_Iamda: what type of monitor08:26
_Iamdadell08:27
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_Iamda14"08:27
FoxFireok beryl seems worse off then before08:28
makuseruberyl is legacy now08:29
marcelolin Advanced Beryl Options....try Rendering Path to COPY08:29
FoxFirethis is the error http://www.pastebin.ca/60097908:29
makuseruFoxFire: whats your problem?08:30
marceloltry that and DISABLE GL YIELD08:30
marcelolHmmmm08:30
makuserumarcelol: whats his problem?08:31
marcelolyou have bigger issues...KDED isn't responding08:31
marceloldid you reboot dude ?08:31
FoxFireyeps08:31
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morph_so is ther a way to fix resume image when booting?08:33
marcelolI would run : sudo  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    from a recovery console.....revert to the default nv driver...then go into ADEPT, and remove the NVidia-glx.....once you've done that...make sure you've got the linux restrticted modules installed ( the up to date ones )08:33
morph_my pc hangs when it says doing normal boot08:34
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marcelolmake sure  you've PURGED nvidia-glx ( you might have to revert to the command line to ensure that )08:34
marcelolthen you can go back and re-download nvidia-glx and enable it..08:34
marcelolmorph_: I don't use suspend or hibernate here as yet....08:35
morph_its when i reboot08:36
marcelol<-- my bedtime here folks.....have a restful night08:36
morph_or after shutdown08:36
morph_k night08:36
FoxFirelaters :D08:36
marcelolI'll give it some thought...08:36
marcelolwill return tomorrow night08:36
morph_bedtime for me as well08:37
morph_peace08:37
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TrueFXhi guys08:46
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TrueFXhow can i dl a websites content by konvertin link to view it in my comp?08:46
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TrueFXit's my own web site in a remote server in university08:46
andre__somebody could help me?08:46
TrueFXi have forgetten to password08:46
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TrueFXso i wnat to dl it and put all the  content now in my computer at home08:47
TrueFXandre go and ask08:47
TrueFXnobody would say ok08:47
andre__anybody knows how to configure this08:47
andre__Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.08:47
andre__Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly08:47
TrueFXif sb know they ll write08:47
TrueFXno idea sorry08:48
andre__thanks dude08:49
andre__did you know any link about that?08:49
TimsenTrueFX: if you surf with firefox, you could use the extension scrapbook08:50
TrueFX?08:50
TrueFXi cant there is a problem with firefox08:51
TrueFXwit wget normall it should be done08:51
TrueFXwget -r -k08:51
TrueFXbut it says permission denied08:51
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TrueFXwget -r -k http://www.students.itu.edu.tr/~bacioglu08:51
Timsenand you start the wget in a directory where you have write permissions" to save the site content?08:51
TrueFXmy own site08:51
rixxonAnyone know a handwriting typefont similar to Purisa, but with support for swedish characters ()? I want something cute for KNotes :)08:52
TrueFXtimsen08:52
TrueFXthx08:52
TrueFX:)08:52
TrueFXit's fool of me08:52
TrueFXi was not root08:52
TrueFXii thought it was a server side error08:53
TrueFX:)08:53
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Timsennp08:54
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sumigamer2guys how do i change the resolution of an image in kubuntu??08:55
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rixxonsumigamer2: have a look in the graphics menu, alternatively install gimp or imagemagick or search for something else08:55
sumigamer2rixxon, actually I am trying to change the resolution of a logo so that I can fit it on the kicker in place of the K menu logo...08:57
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krautmoin08:59
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hanzz_hi.. i heard about program which can sets variables in /proc ... does somebody know his name?09:04
hanzz_i think that it has GUI09:04
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bentob0xI need to reinstall my machine, should I go for Kubuntu again (which is what I'm using now) or should I install a debian + kde?09:07
bentob0xknowing that I'm using Linux since March09:08
rixxonbentob0x: you asking that here?09:08
bentob0xyes09:08
rixxonbentob0x: debian folks will tell you debian ftw, kubuntu folks will tell you kubuntu ftw09:08
bentob0xKubuntu is debian-based right?09:08
rixxonnah not really no more09:09
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bentob0xah09:09
bentob0xsee I was right to ask it here? :)09:09
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rixxonbentob0x: lets say it like this, i *think* debian is more raw, less pre-setup, while kubuntu includes more packages and is more preconfigured09:09
insmod<rixxon> lol yes it is09:10
rixxonbentob0x: if you like how kubuntu is set up, go for it, otherwise, try something else?09:10
insmod<rixxon> it is still debian based09:10
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rixxoninsmod: sure but they're not very much like each other anymore?09:10
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rixxondebian != apt you know :)09:11
bentob0xI like Kubuntu a lot, I was just thinking that as I'm getting to know Linux a bit better, maybe it's time to get a bit more 'in control' of my distro?09:11
insmod<rixxon> ya they are -- ubuntu pulls off of debian servers and just changes the package to there own09:11
rixxonbentob0x: only if you feel the need? it's not a requirement to be a rookie to use ubuntu.09:12
insmod<rixxon> that's like saying mandrake and fedora are not redhat based09:12
bentob0xtrue but a lot of things are pre-chewed09:12
bentob0xno?09:12
rixxoninsmod: ok sure, it is debian based, my point is they are rather different from each other09:12
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rixxonbut sure it is *based* on debian09:12
insmod<bentob0x>if you learn the back end all distroes are the same09:13
rixxonand hey, fedora *is* red hat09:13
insmod<rixxon> only in gui my friend09:13
rixxonbentob0x: like insmod say, they're all linux anyhow. I used to be you after having used ubuntu for like half a year, then I used arch linux (very raw linux) for a year, now I'm back here.09:14
insmod<rixxon> the bare bones are the same and for someone that uses term most of the time they are the same09:14
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rixxonbentob0x: ask yourself if you want a system to use the computer with, or if you want a system to toy with the computer with09:14
insmod<rixxon> my 11th yr lol09:14
rixxonhehe09:15
bentob0xwhich system is the one I'll 'toy' with?09:15
insmod<bentob0x>any09:15
rixxonbentob0x: not *ubuntu anyway :>09:15
rixxonsure you can toy with *ubuntu too09:15
rixxonbut it is probably not the best fit distro for that - while it is better fit than others on being a system to *use* the computer with09:16
insmod<bentob0x>want a distro to learn -- linuxfromscratch.org09:16
bentob0xmaybe the good point is that *buntu has a very fast-growning community09:16
rixxonI wouldn't go straight to LFS after a few months with linux09:16
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bentob0xso I have better chances to find help and technical support?09:16
bentob0x(it's not really support, I know)09:17
rixxonIt is a form of support :)09:17
bentob0xwhat about for a webserver?  Should I use Kubuntu for my own machine and maybe a debian machine for my webserver/fileserver?09:18
Krijalianyone using beryl?09:18
bentob0xyep09:18
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rixxonbentob0x: there is ubuntu server, though to me *ubuntu is a desktop distro, so I don't know09:19
rixxonI prefer BSD on servers09:19
bentob0xhmmm09:19
rixxonbentob0x: though with ubuntu server you can have LAMP up and running in 15 minutes, install time included09:19
insmod<bentob0x>don't allow ubuntu as a web server unless you know how to lock it down09:19
bentob0xok09:20
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rixxoninsmod: isn't ubuntu *server* locked properly09:20
bentob0xI don't mind spending time on install tho09:20
Krijalibentob0x: how well does it work for you?09:20
bentob0xKrijali: check on #beryl09:20
rixxonbentob0x: then go with openbsd :D09:20
insmod<rixxon> no because any use can ssh the box and sudo root09:20
bentob0xgoes very well Krijali, but I have an nvidia09:20
insmod<rixxon> no because any user09:20
bentob0xalthough ATI has made efforts recently09:20
rixxonnot that it takes time to install, ten minutes about, includes apache09:21
Krijalibentob0x: will do thx!09:21
insmod<bentob0x> nvidia is better09:21
bentob0xye I know insmod :)09:21
bentob0xKrijali: type in google: nvidia beryl wiki or ati beryl wiki and click on "I'm feeling lucky" instead of search09:22
bentob0xyou'll get the beryl wiki that's quite good09:22
Krijalibentob0x: will do (this will be with a laptop w/ati)09:22
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TrueFXhi09:31
TrueFXwhere is the kernel in kubuntu?09:31
TrueFXto compile a kernel where do i have to go?09:31
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aaron_compiz question here...09:32
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budg__TrueFX: /usr/src/linux09:35
TrueFXlinux-headers-2.6.20-15          linux-headers-2.6.20-16          linux-headers-2.6.20-16-server09:35
TrueFXlinux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic  linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic09:35
TrueFXwhihc one is active?09:35
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budg__TrueFX:  "uname -r" will tell you the kernel you are running09:38
ubuntu_i'm a new user, and i would help, in french please09:38
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miltoshow can I check if my kubuntu make use of the nvidia drivers?09:38
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budg__miltos: "glxgears" will tell you if 3d is working09:40
miltosbudg_: glxgears? how do I run?09:41
budg__type it in a console or with the run command "alt F2"09:42
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Dusk_miltos: in konsole write glxgears09:44
miltosDusk_: thanks...09:45
defconI need to know which settings file or folder system/preferences/"Sessions" uses because it does not save, My permissions seem to be wrong and I need to find the file/folder to fix the issue09:45
miltosDusk_: gears running...is it okey?09:45
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budgmiltos: if you see gears its working09:47
shawnyboihello09:47
miltosbudg:thanks...09:47
shawnyboiglx gears?09:48
shawnyboiyeah its nice09:48
shawnyboitrying to get dri working?09:48
miltosbudg:but my monitor settings still reports vesa instead of nvidia...09:48
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shawnyboiyeah thats hard to get around sometimes09:48
shawnyboivesa stays the display driver even tho09:49
shawnyboiooops09:50
shawnyboiwoops09:50
shawnyboidid that happen again?09:50
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budgmiltos: try typing "glxinfo | grep NVIDIA"09:51
miltosbudg:wait..09:52
budgif it says somthing like "OpenGL version string: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.03"09:52
budgthe nvidia driver is working09:52
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miltosbudg: i've got the error messages like...insufficient resources for operation09:53
budghmm, ok try  lsmod | grep nvidia09:56
shawnyboiyeah try that09:56
miltosbudg:nothing happens it returns to prompt09:57
shawnyboiuh oh thats not good09:57
budgwell the driver is not loaded09:57
shawnyboiyour nvidia graphical interface is not being loaded into the cpu unfortunately.09:57
budghow did you install the driver09:57
miltosbudg: what should i do?09:58
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kstanhi10:01
kstansomebody having problem keyboard not responding in java swing application?10:01
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kstanRiddell:  Hi, did you facing java swing application not detect keyboard event in linux?10:04
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fnfI've seen some people running another X server in a window in a KDE session. Can anyone tell me how to do that ?10:14
pvandewyngaerdexnest10:15
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Stratysexcuse me but is 113 fps good?10:19
fnfpvandewyngaerde: thank you, that helps. :)10:19
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kstansomebody having problem keyboard not responding in java swing application?10:31
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IppatsuManXYZHi all. I've a problem: as soon as KDE starts, the keyboard doesn't work. It works in kdm, I can type the password, but it doesn't work after the login. Here's the content of ~/.xsession_errors : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28305/ Does anyone know how to fix it?10:39
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PepperBobhi all!10:50
PepperBobi use k3b to burn cds10:50
PepperBobunfortunately it is not able to burn audio cds10:50
PepperBobit seems i'm missing something10:50
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PepperBobactually i use k3b with gnome10:50
PepperBobany ideas?10:50
pvandewyngaerdewhy doesn't it work ?10:50
PepperBobok got it imho10:50
pvandewyngaerdeare the codecs installed ?10:51
PepperBobi was missing libk3b2-mp310:51
PepperBob^10:51
PepperBobnot (yet) ;)10:51
PepperBobthanks anyways pvandewyngaerde!10:51
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BetaTesterHi all. Anybody here with AMD turion 64 x2 CPU and custom kernel?10:54
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PepperBobBetaTester, me but w/o customer kernel10:59
PepperBobusing 32bit though....11:00
BetaTesterPepperBob, I tried compiling a custom kernel with CPU type K8, but without success11:01
BetaTester:(11:01
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PepperBobBetaTester, well... from my gentoo times: compiling a customer kernel can be a pain... :)11:04
PepperBobBetaTester, so i never did - why would you?11:04
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rixxonWhy would you run Ubuntu if you want to do things like recompiling the kernel and such, in the first place11:05
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PepperBobrixxon, well there could be reasons for this.11:06
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dfeserhi all!11:06
alexiconwhats qmake?11:06
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alexiconoh for qt i guess11:07
alexiconwhere do i find it tho11:07
dfeseris it possible to get the automount working for usb disks with ntfs?11:07
dfeseri can mount is manually with ntfs-3g11:07
dfeserbut it wont work like plugging in an usb stick11:07
alexiconwhat package is qmake a part of?11:08
alexicon!qmake11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
BetaTesterPepperBob I did it about 10 times with K7 and i686 cpus and there is 5-7% gain according to nbench11:09
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petrehi11:11
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petrei need some help11:12
petrepls11:12
PepperBobBetaTester, i surely doubt that you will "feel" this - just a measure11:12
BetaTesterI need the best from my hardware PepperBob, I run a GUI terminal server11:13
Hobbsee!info qmake11:14
ubotuPackage qmake does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:14
Hobbsee!info qmake gutsy11:14
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BetaTestercurrently it is on a K7 Athlon, but I am trying to get it going on a turion 64 x2 just for a test, before I actually purchase something like conroe or amd x211:14
ubotuPackage qmake does not exist in gutsy11:14
Hobbseealexicon: qt3-dev-tools11:14
Hobbseematysek: please disable the away message11:15
alexiconyep just found it, cheers11:15
alexiconturns out i needed qt4 that was the prob :|11:15
matysekHobbsee: i use it twice a day, is it a problem?11:16
Hobbseematysek: it's annoying in #ubuntu11:16
Hobbseematysek: if everyone used it...11:16
Hobbsee!away11:16
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines11:16
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matysekHobbsee: and what about changing nickname to nIcKnAmE? is it allowed?11:17
Hobbseematysek: it's less annoying - people often disable joins/parts11:17
Hobbseesilent /away also works too11:17
PepperBobBetaTester, did you load your old config?11:18
PepperBobBetaTester, before you changed the processor type11:20
BetaTesterPepperBob. I got it going :)11:20
BetaTesterwith 2.6.1811:20
BetaTesterwithout loading the old config :)11:21
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PepperBobBetaTester, great then :)11:21
BetaTesteryeaah :)11:21
BetaTesterI will see the difference later PapperBob11:21
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alexiconwhats this about?11:23
alexiconmake: g++: Command not found11:23
alexiconmake: *** [generated_obj/pfs.o]  Error 12711:23
petrei did install a software - scilab: but  when I load it gives me an error :/usr/bin/scilab: 28: /usr/lib/pvm3//lib/pvmgetarch: not found -> can anyone knows   what to do?11:23
rixxon!build-essential > alexicon11:24
alexiconcheers11:24
rixxonhm does that work11:25
alexiconyes11:25
rixxonI haven't used ubotu in like a year :D11:25
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arunhow do i scan things? i have a scanner connection and i just installed sane11:35
arun!sane11:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
arun!scan11:35
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners11:35
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deepa!kooka11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kooka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
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aruni tried kooka, but i dont know how to scan using that11:39
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arundeepa: have you used it to scan anything?11:39
deepaarun: i always use kooka11:40
anrykoscan what?11:40
arunscan a photograph, i don't have a usb scanner, it's an old one11:41
aruncanon11:41
aruni don't think it's detecting my scanner11:41
arundamn11:41
anrykokooka :)11:41
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arunanyway, thanks for the help deepa, anryko11:42
aruni'll be back in a few11:42
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francesco_!it11:55
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:55
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okayhi12:11
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jussi01hi12:13
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rixxonWith dynamic cpu frequency, it is stuck on the lowest when running unrar. Unrar is shit slow but a bit faster with the performance governor, can I make it work properly with dynamic?12:19
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enryhello12:37
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DarkMageZhi, i'm looking for a x64 kubuntu feisty user who uses (or can use) amarok and has a feisty pbuilder setup. anyone awake who meets this and has some spare time?12:44
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jussi01hmmm, you dont ask much do you...12:49
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etalliIt's 064912:50
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DarkMageZjussi01, i know. such a rare kind of user. but it's for their kind benefit. (sif i'd care about an x64 issue :P)12:51
jussi01DarkMageZ: sad, i meet all the requirements... except for x6412:52
jussi01DarkMageZ: you might try asking Hobbsee12:52
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DarkMageZi was under the influence that hobbsee had an old system which would rule her out of x64 bitness?12:53
jussi01DarkMageZ: I dont know, I do know she has kubuntu though12:53
LynoureNo x64 on this one either12:55
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clemenslol12:56
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pvandewyngaerdei have x64, but gutsy12:59
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DarkMageZpvandewyngaerde, do you have a pbuilder setup for gutsy? i suppose gutsy will do.01:00
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moritz_hallo01:02
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DarkMageZfine. i'll drop the pbuilder requirement... just to see if i'm wasting my time...01:05
DarkMageZany x64 users got a few minutes?01:06
[ifroog] Hi.. any one uses knetworkmanager in the panel ?01:06
moritz_60.166.112.1201:07
pag!anyone | [ifroog] 01:07
ubotu[ifroog] : A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:07
[ifroog] lol01:09
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[ifroog] Alright, i set it to manual configure. and i now want to set it back to automatically detect wireless networks, HOW ?01:10
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[ifroog] Before at right click it used to show the wirelessnetwork detected..01:11
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pag[ifroog] , do you have "enable wireless" checked in right-click menu (it's under options)01:12
[ifroog] pag, yes i do..01:13
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pag[ifroog] , well.. how about Manual Configuration and there try to configure your wireless interface. There's Manual and Automatic options01:15
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[ifroog] pag, right now its set on dhcp.01:16
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[ifroog] the icon also in the panel looks diffrent.01:17
elcastorhi01:17
pag[ifroog] , ok. Sorry, but I'm out of ideas.01:18
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[ifroog] pag, even on a friend laptop i tried to manually configure lan. But then wireless too got manual.01:19
[ifroog] and the icon changed and now you can see the wireless networks around..01:20
[ifroog] well, i'll try to google..01:20
pag!wireless01:20
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:20
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_4strO[ifroog] : dont understand your pb01:20
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[ifroog] _4strO, you have this knetworkmanager in the panel which on rightclick you can see the wireless networks around you and click connect them. But since i click on manually configure .. I cant see the wireless network around me.01:24
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_4strOmmm01:24
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MattJ100Hey all, what is the difference between a primary and a logical partition?01:45
MattJ100Must the root partition be primary?01:45
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Olof[M] Is this a help channel? Ktorrent is bugging me01:45
_4strOMattJ100: a logical partition can contain other partitions01:45
balajihow to mount a NTFS formatted USB harddrive?01:45
_4strO!ntfs | balaji01:46
ubotubalaji: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:46
_4strOOlof[M] : what's happening ?01:46
Olof[M] _4strO: I'm downloading some huge torrents, 100gb+. which seems to have messed up the program01:46
_4strOOlof[M] : see with ntfs-config01:46
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_4strOoups01:46
Olof[M] whut01:46
_4strObalaji: see with ntfs-config01:47
Olof[M] I'm not used to linux at all, being forced to use it because my computer hasn't got internet connection atm.01:47
balajii doenloaded ntfs-config but that gives a error saying gtk warning cannot open display01:47
_4strOOlof[M] : think you have to put them one by one in ktorrent01:47
MattJ100Isn't there a limit on the number of primary partitions, iirc?01:47
_4strObalaji: in a console type : kdesu ntfs-config01:47
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Olof[M] _4strO: well. It worked for a while until I tried to change properties of a torrent, which messed up the proram01:48
_4strOMattJ100: max 4 primary then you can create a logical partition to go up01:48
Olof[M] _4strO: I tried to remove the torrent by deleting the temporary files, and now the program wont start at all01:48
MattJ100Ah, k01:48
balajikdesu: cannot connect to X server01:49
_4strOOlof[M] : in ~/.kde/shareapps/ktorrent ?01:49
Olof[M] yeah01:49
_4strOor something like that01:49
Olof[M] yes01:49
twosouls82Olof[M] : why did you do that? in the future use the app to remove its temp files01:49
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Olof[M] twosouls82: cause the app wont start at all. it freezes and closes everytime I start it01:50
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twosouls82Olof[M] : what is put on stderr?01:50
Olof[M] twosouls82: whats that?01:51
Olof[M] I don't use linux myself, but I'm forced to use it as my connection to internet for a couple of weeks01:51
_4strObalaji: ?01:51
twosouls82Olof[M] : when an application is runned from the commandline it will print debug/error messages to the Konsole, if any01:51
twosouls82did you see any messages when you tried to run it from the commandline?01:51
_4strObalaji: it will give you some erreors in the console then open the ntfs-config01:52
Olof[M] twosouls82: communication problems01:52
Olof[M] " Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 "01:52
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Olof[M] 'spoe that doesn't mean anything01:52
_4strO!baddevice01:52
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors01:52
twosouls82Olof[M] : that is because of an entry in your xorg.conf for a non-existant device, that has nothing to do with KTorrent not starting up01:53
twosouls82anything else?01:53
Olof[M] yeah, sec01:53
Olof[M] terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'01:53
Olof[M]   what():  St9bad_alloc01:53
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Olof[M] I can paste all of it, if someone knows about that textdump site.01:55
twosouls82Olof[M] : I would advice trying to backup .kde/share/config/ktorrentrc and .kde/share/apps/ktorrent and see if KTorrent will run without your config; to see if your configuration has a little 'bug' in it01:55
_4strOOlof[M] : can you paste the result of : ls ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent ?01:55
twosouls82http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/01:55
Olof[M] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28319/01:56
Olof[M] twosouls82: will it create new ones by default?01:57
_4strOOlof[M] : can we remove all current torrent ?01:57
twosouls82Olof[M] : yes it will, but be sure to backup the old settings first01:57
balajiyeah i could mount the device changing /etc/fstab but get no write permssions??01:57
_4strOOlof[M] : clear all torrent queued ?01:57
Olof[M] _4strO: that's the deal, I have other large torrents that has been running for a couple of weeks.01:58
Olof[M] I'd like to find a way to save them somehow.01:58
_4strOOlof[M] : are thez finished ?01:58
Olof[M] nope01:58
_4strOok01:58
twosouls82Olof[M] : there is a part file importer plugin for KTorrent, so that wont be a problem at all01:58
Olof[M] twosouls82:  okay01:59
_4strOmmm not sure01:59
twosouls82Olof[M] : you need the original torrent that started it for it though01:59
Olof[M] twosouls82: so basically I just move the ktorrentrc file and the tempfiles? leaving nothing01:59
Olof[M] ok, that will probably not be a problem01:59
_4strOOlof[M] : what is the last operation you made before ktorrent bug ?01:59
twosouls82Olof[M] : yes, but backup the old files to be sure, and that's it02:00
Olof[M] _4strO: changed properties of a really huge torrent. it started to bug and ask for files that weren't supposed to be downloaded02:00
Olof[M] ok02:00
twosouls82Olof[M] : manually enable the Part file imported in the config and import the part files via the Menu "File"02:00
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omegahow can i install verlihub02:01
omega?/02:01
omegahy02:01
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omegato all02:01
_4strOOlof[M] : hwo many files are you supposed to download ?02:01
balaji_4str0 i mounted the USb by modifying the /etc/fstab file02:01
_4strObalaji: ok :p02:01
balajibut i dont get write support so i tried sudo ntfs-config02:01
Olof[M] _4strO: the torrent that caused the problem was 100 gb+ and 9000 files, but that one doesn't matter02:01
Olof[M] most of the ones I'd like to save are around 10gb02:02
twosouls82Olof[M] : MAME files?02:02
twosouls82:P02:02
Olof[M] heh, no I already got those ;)02:02
balajiit gives an option write enable for external devices02:02
balajii selected that but i am not able to write files in the USb02:02
_4strOOlof[M] : actually looks like you dl 9 torrents right ?02:02
Olof[M] yeah02:02
Olof[M] program starts now after moving all the temp files + the config files02:02
Olof[M] file*02:02
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twosouls82Olof[M] : so there was a bug in your config, caused by something you did before this happend... please find out what it was and report the bug if you can.. to prevent this from happening to others02:03
twosouls82in other words; please try to reproduce the error02:04
_4strO^^02:04
twosouls82=)02:04
Olof[M] twosouls82: I'm fairly sure it has to do with the size of the torrent and the performance of this computer.02:04
Olof[M] hah02:04
twosouls82Olof[M] : if so, please pass me the torrent (I think I have 100G left)02:05
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ubuntu_hello there02:05
ubuntu_i'm first time here02:05
twosouls82hi there ubuntu_02:05
ubuntu_may i ask something02:06
twosouls82ubuntu_ never ask that, just ask away02:06
twosouls82;)02:06
ubuntu_ok. i have a pro02:06
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ubuntu_with installing on mozzila firefox the latest macroma\edia plugin02:06
_4strObalaji: twosouls82 : after ntfs-3g installation is a reboot needed to get changes on ?02:07
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twosouls82_4strO: nope, it wasn't here02:07
_4strOok02:07
Olof[M] twosouls82: I don't think I'm allowed to share the torrent, it's one of those invite only places.02:07
twosouls82hehehe02:07
Olof[M] I can try to reproduce it if you'd say how to report it02:08
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balajino02:08
twosouls82Olof[M] : I will have a look at my underground torrent site, to see if they have such an immense torrent too02:08
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ubuntu_twosouls82: i want to instal the marcomedia latest version for fireox on ubuntu. teoretial is on but my browser doesent recognize it what can i do02:08
Olof[M] :)02:08
balajii'll check though02:08
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Olof[M] twosouls82: one other thing that i've wondered about. I'm not used to how linux sorts and places files. when opening files throung firefox, as an example how can I set it to open torrentfiles with ktorrent?02:09
Olof[M] windows is pretty easy to find .exe files, but in linux I'm having trouble navigating and finding program files.02:09
MattJ100Find them in /usr/bin02:10
twosouls82Olof[M] : use kmime2mozilla from kde-apps.org, it will pass the mimetype settings from KDE to Firefox02:10
ubuntu_twosouls82: pls help me02:10
Olof[M] ok02:10
Olof[M] thanks !02:10
twosouls82ubuntu_: where did you download it and what doesn't help? (secondly never ask a person, ask the room instead)02:10
twosouls82s/help/work/02:11
ubuntu_i download it from the macromedia site02:11
twosouls82ubuntu_: where did you put it? in what directory? did you follow the readme provided with it?02:12
ubuntu_i followed the steps to depack the package and it was installed automatically02:12
ubuntu_yep02:12
ubuntu_on desktop02:12
ubuntu_to be easy to find02:12
twosouls82ubuntu_: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*02:13
twosouls82Olof[M] : for bug reports you can use launchpad02:13
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Olof[M] twosouls82: the bug isn't occuring anymore.02:13
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ubuntu_two i serach in the synoptic and it appeared instaled02:14
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balaji_4str0 reboot mounts the device but does not give write permissions02:14
twosouls82Olof[M] : strange... a glitz of AMD? +)02:14
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balajicant we write anythng into a ntfs filesystem?02:14
tammyhow can I get my Acer Orbicam working on ubuntu02:14
Olof[M] twosouls82: glitz? I got a p4 on this one :/02:14
ubuntu_but when i login on the elearning cisco site it says sorry blank page it is not version over 6.002:14
twosouls82balaji: make sure the /etc/fstab rules reads rw instead of ro02:14
twosouls82then remount it02:15
tammyI've tried going here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam02:15
twosouls82Olof[M] : glad you're back on a roll again02:15
tammybut I can't install the pwc, I get an error02:15
Olof[M] twosouls82: it's very weird cause the torrent took 5-10 minutes to get running first time and froze everytime I changed properties (what files to download). Now it works without problems02:15
Olof[M] yeah :)02:15
Olof[M] starting to think I was unpacking and moving files or something at the same time02:16
Olof[M] but I usually don't make such stupid thinks02:16
tammyIn file included from /usr/include/linux/videodev.h:15,02:16
tammy                 from libpwc.h:29,02:16
tammy                 from pwc-dec23.h:28,02:16
tammy                 from pwc-dec23.c:29:02:16
tammy/usr/include/linux/videodev2.h:429: error: field timestamp has incomplete type02:16
tammymake: *** [libpwc.a]  Error 102:16
Olof[M] things*02:16
twosouls82Olof[M] : you overloaded a Linux machine? :)02:16
twosouls82Olof[M] : Olof Moll btw?02:17
Olof[M] twosouls82:  dunno.. seems so. and no :)02:17
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twosouls82=)02:17
tammyI can't be the only person with this issue02:17
tammydoes anyone knows how to fix this web cam issue02:18
MattJ100Hmm02:18
twosouls82tammy: you're a missing some headers you'll need to compile this which declare the type of "timestamp", if I am correct02:19
MattJ100The camera is on an Acer laptop?02:19
tammyyes it is02:19
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tammyand this has been a horrible transition02:19
MattJ100I'm setting up such a laptop as I speak02:19
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tammybut only in the aspect of peripherals02:20
tammythe OS is great02:20
tammyso how can I fix this error02:20
MattJ100Ok, well, I'm going to reboot into the installed system (on LiveCD atm)02:20
MattJ100I'll see if I can get the camera set up, and I'll be here, so let you know if I have any similar problem02:21
MattJ100bbiaf02:21
tammyok02:21
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balajitwosouls82:my /etc/fstab has a line which i included for mounting ntfs /dev/sdb1   /media/usbmass   ntfs   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   002:22
balajihere i am not able to find a place for including rw02:23
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twosouls82balaji: "/dev/sdb5                                   /shared         ntfs-3g       defaults,locale=en_US.utf8           0       0" this one is shared rw between my Linux, Mac and Windows02:23
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twosouls82balaji: with that rule you don't need to specify rw explicitely02:24
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balajiok i'll try02:25
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Vuenanyone know how to get rid of the timer in kaffeine?02:25
twosouls82sudo rm /usr/bin/kaffeine +) (just joking)02:25
Vuenheh02:26
twosouls82Vuen: I have no idea what you're talking about.. could you be more precise?02:26
Vuentwosouls82: well, that would get rid of the timer ;)02:26
twosouls82it sure would02:26
Vuenthere's a timer in the top left corner in fullscreen mode02:26
Vuenit won't go away02:26
Vuenjust showed up today, been using kaffeine for a year02:26
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twosouls82Vuen: upgraded Kaffeine lately?02:27
Vuendon't think so02:27
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twosouls82Vuen: I can't reproduce this... what type of medium do you use when this happends?02:29
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twosouls82happens*02:29
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twosouls82heh!02:29
Vuenmedium?02:29
Vuenanything02:30
Vuenany video02:30
twosouls82Vuen: I assume you accidently enabled that by pressing a keyboard button.. so I would play with those if I were having that issue02:30
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Vuenme neither02:31
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Vuentwosouls82: yeah, i tried pressing every button on the keyboard02:31
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twosouls82Vuen: /dev/sdb5                                   /shared         ntfs-3g       defaults,locale=en_US.utf8           0       002:32
twosouls82ooooopsss02:32
twosouls82my bad02:32
twosouls82Vuen: #kaffeine02:32
IppatsuManXYZHi all. I've a problem: as soon as KDE starts, the keyboard doesn't work. It works in kdm, I can type the password, but it doesn't work after the login. Here's the content of ~/.xsession_errors : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28305/ Does anyone know how to fix it?02:32
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BluesKajIppatsuManXYZ, are you on a pc or laptop?02:34
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IppatsuManXYZBlack5un: A LAPTOP02:35
IppatsuManXYZsorry for the caps02:35
BluesKajhave you tried reconfiguring your xorg file to reset your KB ?02:36
IppatsuManXYZyes, but it didn't work, I think it's a kde problem, since gnome works fine02:36
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bonaldo2000Is there a way via command-line to open an irc channel in an already open konversation-process?02:38
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BluesKajIppatsuManXYZ, do you still have gnome ? if so uninstall kubuntu-desktop and kde, then reboot and try to reinstall them02:38
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BluesKajbonaldo2000, pls expalin what you're trying to do02:40
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bonaldo2000BluesKaj: ok. I am making a script that opens links in firefox in konversation. But it only works if konversation is not already open. I would like a script that is able to open the channels in an already running konversation02:41
bonaldo2000BluesKaj: this is what I have now: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P635.html02:42
IppatsuManXYZBluesKaj: I think that I'll just reinstall everything, if there aren't other options02:42
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msetimHi02:43
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msetimI'm happy because I did beryl works, however I my window preferences don't is remembered, i.e, last window position. How can I do it remember?02:45
pag!beryl | msetim02:47
ubotumsetim: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:47
BluesKajbonaldo2000, in Konversation/settings/configure konverstion/general/use custom web browser... not sure if that's what you're trying to do ?02:47
craigHi all. I hace a RaLink wireless PCI card RT2400 that I can'y get to work in Kubuntu02:47
craigsays "No network device found"02:47
craigany ideas02:48
tammyHelp!!!!!!!need to get Acer Orbicam working02:48
msetimubotu: thk, i'm going there...02:48
msetimpag: Sorry, I can't understand :(02:49
twosouls82craig: http://www.flamingspork.com/blog/2005/01/14/rt2500-wireless-pci-card-on-ubuntu/02:49
twosouls82hope this helps02:49
pagmsetim, I just told ubotu to tell you about #ubuntu-effects channel. I think it's better place to seek help for beryl-related issues. (Ubotu is just a bot, if you didn't know that already :)02:50
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craigthanks twosouls8202:53
bonaldo2000BluesKaj: I am trying to make firefox open irc-links in konversation! And it works - but only if konversation is not already running...02:53
twosouls82np :)02:53
twosouls82craig: good luck02:54
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msetimpag: I didn't know :-P... I'm seeking for help there... thanks!!02:54
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BluesKajsorry bonaldo2000...how do you expect konverstion to open links if you don't have konverstaion open ?02:56
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Lacrymologyhow can I set kubuntu up so I can write in japanese? I installed anthy, but I don't see how to use it02:56
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twosouls82Lacrymology: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Japanese_Input_and_Fonts_in_Ubuntu_7.0402:58
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twosouls82I want mammie!03:00
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MattJtammy: Still there?03:00
tammyyes03:01
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tammywhat yah got03:01
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MattJNo /dev/video003:01
MattJWhere did you find which driver is needed?03:01
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tammyI went here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam03:01
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tammyI'll be right back03:02
MattJk03:02
bonaldo2000BluesKaj: I want a script that is able to open links in konversation if it is not open (which I have now...it just opens konversation and joins the channel) and if it is already open (i want it to just join the channel in a new tab in the already open konversation)03:02
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tammyk, so I got the same issue with the cam, /dev/video003:04
tammyI don't ubderstand why though03:05
BluesKajAm I just palin dense or does anyome else understand what bonaldo2000 is trying to do , just join servers or chats in an open server or auto open a server and then auto join , in konversation ?03:05
MattJtammy: I can't find the camera in lspci/lsusb03:06
tammymattj still here?03:06
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tammyhum...I'm having the same exact issue, I bet one of these guys here know how to fix this issue though03:06
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tammywe just have to get there attention03:07
BluesKajsorry bonaldo2000 , i still get what yer trying to do03:07
BluesKajdon't03:07
BluesKajBBL , I need coffee03:07
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LynoureBluesKaj: I think I do... it opens irc://server:port links, I think03:07
bonaldo2000BluesKaj: hehe ok. I give up in explaining it. :-)03:07
pawitpI need a ffmpeg/mencoder frontend03:07
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Lynourebonaldo2000: so, like they way klipper handles urls with konqueror, but for irc, right?03:08
Lacrymologytwosouls82: ok, going through that, but it's for gnome. Is "Go to System / Administration / Language Support and select Japanese" the same as "KDE/System Settings/Regional & Language"?03:08
Lynoures/they/the03:08
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bonaldo2000Lynoure: I dont know what klipper is, sorry. All I want is just to be able to click on an irc:// link in firefox and get the channel opened in konversation!03:09
BluesKajLynoure, he doesn't need a script to do that03:09
twosouls82Lacrymology: Yes, I assume so... but it might as well set environment variables for your entire system, use localeconf to be complete03:10
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CuBe0wLyo all03:10
tammythe issue that we are having is that we are missing kernel/drivers/media/video/pwc/pwc03:10
CuBe0wLI'd like to ask a question: kubuntu ships as a live cd too?03:10
bonaldo2000Lynoure: and right now the script I have made work. But only IF konversation is not already open.03:10
tammyso we can't compile the drivers at all03:10
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twosouls82Lacrymology: hence the setting in KControl is only for the currently logged on user03:10
MattJ'mjust trying somethinf03:10
MattJg03:10
CuBe0wLkubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso is a live cd too as a normal ubuntu?03:10
LynoureBluesKaj: not even to open in new tab?03:11
CuBe0wLlike a normal ubuntu sorry03:11
tammyonce we get this going we can then install the webcam drivers and my dilema is that timestamp issue03:11
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Lacrymologytwosouls82: that's fine, I have only one user in this box, and there will be no others, so no problem03:12
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BluesKajLynoure, now i understand what he means ... it works in mirc , but dunno about konverstaion03:12
Lynourebonaldo2000: unfortunately I don't know how to get it to open in a new tab03:12
pagCuBe0wL, that one is a live-cd, yes. *-alternate* ones are not03:12
CuBe0wLpag, thx03:12
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MattJtammy: http://www.freewebs.com/gkiagia/orbicam.html03:13
CuBe0wLI'd like to move my girlfriend to linux too, so I'd like to show her KDE03:13
tammyk let me check03:13
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MaTiAzCuBe0wL: Good choice :)03:13
CuBe0wLand for this kubuntu will be the best guinea pig :)03:13
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CuBe0wLk, thx for the info03:13
BluesKajKonverstaion has no automatic server list loading and connect unless preconfigured in the serverlist03:13
CuBe0wLbye all03:14
bonaldo2000Lynoure: ok...03:14
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tammyyeah mattj I tried this too but it did not work for me03:15
Lacrymologyuhm03:16
MattJIt gave me a /dev/video0, but that doesn't work03:16
LacrymologyI followed that tutorial, but I don't know how to write in japanese yet..03:16
seishinbyouwriting in .jp?03:17
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tammyok mattj this is what I got when I tried doing the driver compile03:22
tammytammy@tammy-laptop:~/gspcav1-20070508$ sudo make install03:22
tammymkdir -p /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/media/03:22
tammyrm -f /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko03:22
tammyrm -f /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca.ko03:22
tammyinstall -c -m 0644 gspca.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/media/03:22
tammy/sbin/depmod -ae03:22
tammyWARNING: Can't read module /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/pwc/pwc.ko: No such file or directory03:22
tammyso this is the issue: WARNING: Can't read module /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/pwc/pwc.ko: No such file or directory03:22
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tammyuntil I get this pwc crap working that cam will not work03:23
MattJYou are sure it is the pwc driver that is needed?03:23
tammySO can anyone please help me solve this issue03:23
tammyyes03:23
MattJHow can you tell?03:24
tammythat's why that error pops up, it does not find pwc03:24
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tammybecause of the warning message I got03:24
tammyWARNING: Can't read module /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/pwc/pwc.ko: No such file or directory03:24
tammyand when I try to compile the pwc files I get the timestamp issue03:25
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tammyso I feel like I'erem in a catch 22 situation h03:25
seishinbyoudoh, Kate does not like too many languages in one file I guess03:26
seishinbyou*crash*03:26
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seishinbyouI don't know if it is a bug with scim, kate, any of the font packages, or act of God(tm)03:28
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tammymattj are you having the same issue03:36
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seishinbyouwow, dbview displays dBase IV files as well (it says it only did dBase 3)...even if my company is the last on the planet still relying on dBase :/03:37
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ChaniW: GPG error: http://www.mirrorservice.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508803:53
Chaniis that something I need to be bothered about?03:53
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ChaniI'm just trying to get kde 3.5.703:54
Chaniso.. I think I'll ignore it03:55
BluesKaj!KDE03:55
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.03:55
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Chaniwait, is that saying 3.5.7 made it into feisty proper?03:57
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Chanior does it just mean this ectra mirror I'm using without the signatires?03:57
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BluesKajChani, 3.5.7 is regarded as stable AFAIK , ...been using it for a month or so , so far so good :)04:03
Xbehavemy java versions arnt showing up, how do i fix it?04:03
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BluesKajXbehave, reinstall ?04:04
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BluesKajBBL , stuff to do04:04
SillyZwell a happy 4th to those already across the international date line04:05
SillyZgmorning yall04:05
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seishinbyouthanks?04:06
Xbehave4th?04:06
ausome_oh yeah its just gone the 4th here now - how time flies :)04:07
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Xbehaveo rite the day that independence day film is set?04:07
grul!ssh04:07
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:07
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gionatahello folks04:09
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SillyZwell Ive looked at this situation from several angles, approches , etc, what is the best solution for a backup system?04:10
SillyZdrive is partitioned with the os on /dev/sda1 , swap on /dev/sda2 and /home on /dev/sda3 .....04:10
gionataI have an external HD04:11
nick_hello! I want to install my Eye Toy on this computer with Kubuntu on it but I don't know how I have to do it! can somebody help me?04:11
SillyZEye Toy?04:11
gionatahello sillyZ04:11
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SillyZheya gionata04:11
nick_yes, it's a 'webcam' for your playstation04:11
SillyZaye I as well have an external usb hard drive04:11
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steveireIs there a command line backup tool like rsync (incremental) that compresses the files into an archive?04:12
SillyZtar04:12
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SillyZuse the incremental switch04:12
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faidillingerwhat's up you all. can someone please help me setup dual monitor on kubuntu ?04:12
SillyZor rsync it then tar it at the destination04:12
Xbehavefaidillinger: what card do you have?04:13
SillyZ!eyetoy04:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eyetoy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:13
SillyZhmmm04:13
nick_on windows you can install a driver to run the camera on your PC but on Kubuntu I don't know how I have to do it04:13
steveireSillyZ: There's an incremental switch with tar? Does it work something like rsync?04:13
faidillingerXbehave: i have an ati radeon 9250 with the opensource drivers installed04:13
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SillyZon the eye toy thing : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeToy#On_computer04:14
nick_thanks04:14
gionataI prouly run feisty onto a asus f3t laptop04:14
SillyZbest I can do at this early hour of the morning, theres 3 different types of camera so the driver differs from there04:14
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Xbehavei only know nvidia, try !twinview > faidillinger04:15
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faidillingerhey everybody i got two monitors and an ati radeon 9250 with the opensource drivers installed. can someone help me please setup a dual screen desktop for kubuntu feisty dawn. thx04:15
faidillingerXbehave: OK thx04:15
SillyZahhh sorry my bad, it was an --interaactive switch i saw on the man page for tar04:15
SillyZflame away04:16
faidillinger!twinview04:16
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead04:16
gionataI cannot use the external monitor as well04:16
faidillinger!DualHead04:16
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:16
nick_I've found this website:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27232804:16
Xbehavegionata: what card do you have?04:16
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nick_but i've I do the first step in shell I get an error04:16
Xbehaveif its intel i think you need the same guides ass faidillinger, if its nvidia then use nvidia-settings04:17
nick_I mean the second step04:17
gionatanvidia geforcego 730004:17
Chanihey, how do I get apritude to show me what version of a package I can upgrade to, instead of what's already installed?04:17
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gionataactually it's not so importanto to me the use of external but...04:18
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nick_I get the following error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.04:19
Xbehavegionata: install the nvidia binary drivers and it should come with an app to configure screens, just plugin the 2nd screen and select twinview setup in nvidia and it should work, for seperate x sessions you need to edit the same stuff as above04:19
SillyZIm really looking for something to backup the main / (root) drive, and include the mbr so upon restoration, I  dont have to boot to another linux cd, mount the drive, chroot and reinstall grub....04:19
Chaniahh, -V04:20
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Chaninick_: well then, run that! :)04:20
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wershi Kubuntu folks.. has anyone here successfully synced a Pocket PC with Fiesty?04:21
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nick_k! sorry! I don't know anything about kubuntu :p04:21
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wers!sync04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
SillyZ!kitchensync04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kitchensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
SillyZ!multisync04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multisync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
SillyZbah04:22
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wersmultisync works.. but I cant sync with kontact04:22
Chaninick_: generally when something gives you instructions on how to fix its problem, it's good to follow them :)04:22
SillyZwers: Id love to try it tho, I have a compaq 3955 sitting right beside me04:23
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steveire!backup04:25
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning04:25
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SillyZwahahahah! I just got a pop up that my system registry was corrupted, and to download this or that to fix it .... roflmao04:26
wersHere's the thing.. since I can sync with evolution, I used evolution's calendar resource in Kontact...04:26
wersthe problem is.. whenever I edit evo's calendar using kontact, there are complications04:26
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nick_finally! I think it's working now! ( the second step :p -04:27
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SillyZthanks steveire04:27
SillyZIll check em out04:27
Xbehavewers: i also had problems trying to use kontact calenders outside of contact then gaveup04:27
wersis there a way for Evolution to use Kontact's calendar resource instead of the other way around?04:28
nick_an other question: is it possible to download msn messenger with kubuntu04:28
faidillingeri am getting crazy trying to get dual monitor working.04:28
wersI really want to use Kontact instead of Evo... it's just so much better04:28
seishinbyouDoesn't gaim do msn anyways?04:28
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faidillingeris anyone in here capable of helping me04:28
seishinbyouI tried dual monitor; couldn't get it working :/04:29
Xbehavedo you get errors when restarting x?04:29
SillyZok steveire it says that dd is a  good method, but dosent dd do the entire partition, not just the active data on the drive ? thus a much larger backup04:29
Lynourefaidillinger: did you try the stuff Xbehave recommended to you?04:29
SillyZya its Konversation junix|work....04:29
nick_i'm used to working with msn messenger! it would be pleasant to have msn messenger installed on this computer with kubuntu04:30
Xbehavenick_: if you just want msn try kmess it even supports winks04:30
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faidillingeryes but i get two different desktop04:30
nick_k! i'll try04:30
faidillingeri am trying to get only one 'BIG' virtual desktop04:30
steveirenot sure SillyZ04:30
Xbehavefaidillinger: have you enabled Xinerama?04:31
wersnick_, try amsn04:31
faidillingeryes04:31
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Chaninick_: it'll be a cold day in hell when microsoft programs are released for linux. ;)  try kopete or gaim. or if you're really really desperate you could try installing wine and see if you can get msn to install under that04:32
wersguys, is there a way for me to use kontact's calendar files in Evolution?04:32
Xbehavenick_: kmess will give you everything but msn live, amsn is also good, kopete, gaim ofer msn to a good standard with other protocols and plugins too04:32
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Xbehavefaidillinger: im not sure if ati can do 1 large desktop, anoying i know. with nvidia its just a setting for the binary drivers, perhaps ati drivers offer twinview04:33
SillyZhow about gyachi tried that one ?04:33
Lynourefaidillinger: I think if you have two desktops next to each other and have active desktop borders, it should be pretty comparable04:33
SillyZI belive it does msn04:34
faidillingerI know i once got it working under 6.06LTS, with the same video card so i am certain that it actually works04:34
faidillingeri just cant figure out how i got it working the last time04:34
SillyZsteveire: as for dd backups, ya that'd be great but the 0 fill space has gotta be a killer and the selected partition has to be unmounted04:34
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Xbehavedont suppose you backup your old xorg? faidillinger if youve dont it before it can be done, i have to go move ruble around but if you post on ubuntu forums i can try and help if no1 else does04:36
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faidillingerXbehave-away: thx a lot, i will try to do it again by myself, but if i cannot i will post on the forum thx a lot anyways04:37
Cicci0hi, kmail/kontact stopped to download my mail... someone could help me finding what's wrong now with my feisty ?04:37
junix|worki am having some trouble with my dual monitor setup, i have one monitor at 1280x1024, and what looks like another monitor setup at 800x600, but in the config, i have it setup for 1280x1024, for both monitors, i'm on debian etch04:37
Cicci0when I clic on check mail, I got a message telling that check is done but nothing really happens (I know there's a lot of mail waiting only to be downloaded...)04:37
steveireSillyZ: I'm really not experienced with it. Use a livecd to make the backup?04:37
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ChaniCicci0: that happened to me yesterday04:38
Cicci0did you solve some way?04:39
Cicci0maybe some update broke something?04:39
ChaniCicci0: did you ever click the "offline mode" button on networkmanager?04:39
Cicci0yes...04:39
Cicci0Now I'm in offline mode...04:39
ChaniI just logged iout and back in and it was fixed.04:39
ChaniCicci0: when I clicked the offline mode, it seemed like I got stuck in offline and couldn't get kde to come back online04:40
ChaniI was not suggesting you click it!04:40
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Cicci0(I must use manual configuration to be online cause here at work there isn't dhcp so I need to configure network by hand and knetworkmanager doesn't support not DHCP networks (that's foolish!!!)04:40
Cicci0so I try to go online, disable knetworkmanager, logout and come back... see if it solves...04:42
seishinbyouheh, but knetworkmanager has manual settings...04:42
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Cicci0right...04:45
Cicci0so going offline in knetworkmanagers is dangerous!04:45
seishinbyouyou faced the peril!04:46
LynoureChani, Cicci0: report a bug if there is not one reported already?04:46
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Cicci0I'll do now04:47
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ChaniCicci0: oh, I'm on manual too. yes, report a bug, thanks. I'm bad about those things :)04:47
Cicci0knetworkmanager should give the opportunity to load eth even if no dhcp is configured...04:48
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Cicci0using actual manual configuration04:48
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Chaniyeah, it should.04:50
Chaniseishinbyou: some of use don't get the choice04:50
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Chanithis school doesn't have wireless at all, and they're still using static ip's!04:50
ChaniI won't start on hte proxy madness :P04:50
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Cicci0https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/8668004:51
Cicci0it seems something related to this one04:51
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Chanioh, ubuntu bug stuff...04:51
Chaniheh, I always go straight to bugs.kde.org04:52
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txarlyke paxa xavalessss04:54
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icecruncher!es | txarly04:54
ubotutxarly: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:54
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vonhello04:57
icecruncherhi04:57
vonI need some help with cups04:57
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icecrunchervon, sorry can't help04:57
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vonicecruncher, nevermind thanks04:58
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jhutchinsvon: What sort of help?04:58
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vonI closed the port 631, and now printing is no more avaiable04:59
georgioshello!!04:59
jhutchinsvon: Right.04:59
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vonbut it works for test pages04:59
georgioscan someone help I am having trouble with my nvidia04:59
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georgios??05:00
jhutchinsvon: That's because the test page generation is internal.05:00
jhutchins!nvidia | georgios05:00
ubotugeorgios: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:00
Dr_willisgeorgios,  going to have to get more specific then that.05:00
georgiosof course05:00
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vonso what can I do?05:00
georgiosi installed everyway possible05:00
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jhutchinsvon: Open that port, or reconfigure cups to use a different port and open that.05:00
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georgioswhen installing inside kubuntu I press ctrl+alt+backspace and i see the driver working perfectly05:01
Dr_willisAnd here i go just installing the nvidia-glx package, or using the restricted-drivers tool... :)05:01
vonjhutchins: I want to use a cups server05:01
georgiosbut when i restart everything goes black05:01
Cicci0http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147500 hope I've been just clear...05:01
jhutchinsvon: Fine, open the port.05:01
Dr_willisSo the driver works, untill you reboot , is what you are trying to say?05:01
georgiosyes05:01
georgiosi have the logs if anyone is interested05:02
vonbut I'm the client I dont need to open the port?05:02
jhutchinsvon: Two-way communication.05:02
georgiosI run Kubuntu on Athlon 2000 +nvidia fx590005:03
vonjhutchins: so you say it wont work if i dont open port 63105:03
georgioscan you help?? i am running a bit desperate05:03
Dr_willisgeorgios,  may want to check the Ubunut/kubuntu wiki/forums - if this is a commonproblem - it will be mentioned there.  Its proberly just a  module loading issue.05:03
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spheardIve lost the taskbar!!!05:05
georgios i already checked05:05
georgiosi don't know but i haven't found anything but more people with my problem05:05
spheardI had it set to appear on mouseover, but now, its gone for good05:05
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis05:05
georgiosif they found a solution i don't know05:05
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Dr_willisHay min.05:05
MinatakuI'm gonna get a DECstation 5000/33 and a SPARCbook 3GX :D05:06
georgioscan you take a look at my xorg.conf?? I am a beginner to know what went wrong05:06
Dr_willisgeorgios,  Ive never had the problem. or heard of a fix in here. So cant tell ya much more. Id bett that its a module loading issue.05:06
spheardwhats the kde gnome-panel05:06
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Dr_willisgeorgios,  i doubt if its an xorg.conf issue.  You could check the file see if the 'driver nv' line is 'driver nvidia' or not. thats about all the change to the xorg.conf  needs.05:06
georgiosit is nvidia05:07
georgiosi also have the xorg.0 log file available05:07
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spheardhi, Im really up s**t creek here, my task panel has just disapeared completely, can anyone tell me the name of the kde panel binary, or suggest how I might get it back?05:09
Dr_williscould see what modules are loaded when it does work..  compared to what modules are loaded(or not loaded) when it dosent work05:09
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etallispheard:  kicker05:09
Dr_willisthen put the modules to load in the autoloadmodules file.05:09
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etallispheard: Alt-F2, type kicker, press enter05:10
georgiosa bit more specific?? i am a begginer... sorry05:10
spheardetalli: kicker is already running05:10
frojndna mapo kliknes05:11
frojndenkrat05:11
frojndpol pa prtisnes f205:11
frojndin pol prtisnes: ctrl + c05:11
frojndin pol v prazno kliknes05:11
frojndin pol sm kliknes05:11
frojndin prtisnes ctrl + v05:11
frojndpardon05:11
frojndwhy when I play vmw videos on every some and a while pictures go crazy, everything is blured and I can see squares..05:11
spheardI set it to hide, and to appear on mouse to the bottom of the screen05:11
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etallispheard: ?  Try opening a terminal window: konsole, and type killall kicker, then kicker.  That'll relaunch it.05:12
etalliOr it should05:12
Dr_willisgeorgios,  You may want to spend some time learning some shell basics, and how to edit files in the shell.05:12
Dr_willisgeorgios,  # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.05:12
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spheardX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16905:12
Dr_willisthat is the file that 'autoloads' the various modules05:12
Dr_willis!baddevice05:13
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:13
spheardetalli:05:13
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Dr_willisgeorgios,  the command 'lsmod' shows what modules are loaded at any given time05:13
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spheardwhere are the kicker settings stored?05:13
georgiosok dr willis I will do my best05:14
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etallispheard: I'm not sure, let me check05:14
Dr_willisspheard,  in .kde somewhere. :)05:14
etallispheard: ~/.kde/share/config/  file called kickerrc05:15
Dr_willis!info restricted-drivers05:15
ubotuPackage restricted-drivers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:15
Dr_willis!info  restricted-manager05:16
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB05:16
Dr_willisgeorgios,  you could also install that '  restricted-manager ' package and run it. and  let it install the nvidia drivers. It may tweak it right05:16
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georgiosso far i tried installing with adept , automatix, ubuntu instructions and envy05:18
spheardDr_willis: etalli: thankyou05:18
georgiosthey all failed05:18
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etallispheard:  glad that helped :)05:18
spheardI think I may have found a bug :-)05:18
etallispheard:  oooh, what kind of bug?05:18
spheardwell, I set the bar to hide, and to appear on mouse to the bottom of the screen, It worked for a while, then I never saw it again :-/05:19
Dr_willisgeorgios,  its hignly likely that 'trying' all the things at random like that. (using the windows method of thinking) did break somnthing.05:19
Dr_willisIn short DONT use automatix, and you dont need to use envy.05:20
etalliweird, you might want to report it.05:20
etalliAnyway, I have to go05:20
Minataku!automatix05:20
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:20
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Dr_willisgeorgios,  but the problem stays the same eh? it works after you install the nvidia-glx, package, but not after a reboot?05:20
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georgiosyes05:20
georgiosi can run perfectly anything with ctrl+alt+backspace but not on rebboot05:21
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Dr_willisGiven that my pc's have 5+week uptimes. :) heh heh.05:21
frojndhow can I tar some file with all extensions so I can tar it to specific folder. Like this? tar -xzvf file.tar.gz specificfolder    ??05:21
georgiosand kubuntu is so much faster and way better looking with 3d accelaration05:21
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Dr_willisso to further clarify...  You install the nvidia drivers, restart the X server, they work. then you reboot.. and they dont workl. You have to reinstall the drivers.05:22
georgiosyes05:22
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Dr_willisuse the lsmod command, befor they work, and after they work. see what modules are loaded.05:22
Dr_willisthen perhaps try manuaally loading the modules.05:22
Dr_willisgeorgios,  you have installed install that '  restricted-manager ' package  and ran it?05:23
Dr_willisthere is a check box it offers that enables/disables the driver,05:23
SillyZok heres one for the gurus, Im running a dell e-1705 laptop, its supposed to have a serial-ata (sata) hard drive on it, should the drives be recognized by linux as /dev/sda? or /dev/hda ?05:23
georgiosi installed but not ran it05:23
georgios i am searching on the web on how to run it , too embarassed to ask you05:24
georgios:)05:24
Dr_willisgeorgios,  the command is 'restricted-manager' :)05:24
Dr_willisres<tab>05:24
georgiosi should uninstall the previous drivers though first right???05:25
Dr_willisit should add an icon to the menus, and to the panel05:25
Dr_willisgeorgios,  no idea.  Youve tried so much. its hard to tell what to do at this time.05:25
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Dr_willisId say No. :)05:25
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Dr_willisFor the record. all i normally do on a new install is install/run restricted-manager, and it installs the nvidia stuff for me.05:26
SillyZ!sata05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:26
georgioswell it says it needs restart... so wish me luck05:27
spheardI'm having problems using my new USB harddisk, Ive plug it in to the USB and get;-->> Jul  3 16:24:46 andrew-laptop kernel: [  811.884660]  usb 6-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3; Jul  3 16:24:46 andrew-laptop kernel: [  811.944444]  usb 6-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice; Jul  3 16:24:46 andrew-laptop kernel: [  811.944588]  scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices. <<-- but its not assigning it a /dev05:27
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LattywareOK, what is kwallet called? To launch from a terminal?05:30
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SillyZtry this spheard  fdisk -l /dev/sdb05:31
SillyZsee if theres any partitions there05:31
SillyZproviding you dont have a second ide drive already on sdb, its where it put my external usb drive05:31
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spheardSillyZ: wehay, jst have to format the bugger then :-)05:32
SillyZdid ya find it ?05:32
jhutchins_ltspheard: sudo fdisk -l will list all known devices, just to be sure.05:32
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SillyZagreed with jhutchins there05:32
Dr_williswell georgios never came back... guess it dident work05:33
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SillyZis there a util beyond hdparm thatll tell me how my system is preforming compared to othersystems, isnt it like bonnie or something?05:35
georgiosfailed once again05:35
georgiosits my fourth day trying05:36
Dr_willisgeorgios,  i would have to say get back to a 'sane' setup by reinstalling, and just using the 'restricted-drivers' package/tool05:36
Dr_willisdont even LOOK at automatix, or envy :)05:37
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Dr_willisOR05:37
Dr_willisyou coudl just try adding the 'nvidia' line to the /etc/modules file05:37
georgiosi will look into the xorg log files and see what i can find05:37
nooblinuxuseri need some help installing kubuntu on my raid hard drive system, i did all the steps this link told me but when i boot the system up it gives me grub loading please wait then it shows error 205:37
nooblinuxuserhttp://www.iki.fi/kuparine/comp/ubuntu/raid.html05:38
georgiosi will05:38
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spheardhow do I persuade my usb drives to automount?05:38
Dr_willisif the xorg logs says it cant find the module nvidia, then ya could try to load it manually. but its odd.05:38
spheardoh, Its all working now :-)05:38
Dr_willisspheard,  some times i got to unplug/plug mine in to kick them inthe head05:39
SillyZwhat video card georgios?05:39
Dr_williswell i gotta run. take care ya all.05:39
nooblinuxusercan anyone help?05:39
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grulhay, did you know katapult can be used as a calculator? :)05:40
gruljust type in some numbers and operators05:40
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georgiosgoodbye05:40
georgiosand thank you05:40
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spheardIt seems that I dont have permission to access m auto mounted USB drive, how can I fix this?05:44
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SillyZunmount the drive from /media/sdb1 then chmod 775 sdb1, remount, and you should be good05:46
SillyZthats the hard way of doing it tho05:46
SillyZpmount is supposed to mount devices like that with write access05:46
spheardhmmm05:47
georgioscan anybody else help with my nvidia driver problem???05:47
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bjwebbhow do i open kde from a terminal?05:47
sphearddo you think a 5.0 mb/s transfer is slow?05:47
spheardbjwebb:startx05:47
SillyZstartx or kdm05:47
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mike-kubuntuhey, i'm trying to configure a dyndns update client to get my ip, but i'm going through a router and i dont want it to send my internal ip05:56
mike-kubuntuany tips?05:56
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spheardmike-kubuntu: your router should do it06:02
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spheardmike-kubuntu what type of router do you have?06:03
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mike-kubuntuspheard: lynksys06:03
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spheardmike-kubuntu: yeah, there should be a dynamic DNS section06:03
spheardthere is on my netgear06:04
mike-kubuntuspheard: nice, never heard of that, thanks06:04
spheardnp06:04
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mike-kubuntuspheard: can you give me any tips on why ftp isn't working, i have ports 80, 20, and 21 forwarded to my computer and vsftpd runing, i can ftp using sftp but any graphical client either faiils while trying to retrieve my tree structure or returnes a "500 OOPS: child died"06:10
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spheardum06:11
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spheardmike-kubuntu I have never used ftp, I just use sftp Im afraid06:12
mike-kubuntuspheard: thanks, me 206:12
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spheardmike-kubuntu: why do you want ftp?06:13
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ledhello!06:15
mike-kubuntuI'm trying to set up my home computer so i can work on it remotely from my laptop. i want the graphical ftp because if you open a file in kate when you ft through konqueror it will automatically upload new versions as you save it06:15
ledi'm italian and so i excuse me for the bas english ^^06:15
stanisamake sure you forward udp as well as tcp on ports 20 and 2106:15
ledi want tell you06:15
ledwhat have the ati xpress 200M?06:16
mike-kubuntustanisa: thanks06:16
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mike-kubuntustanisa: can you point me to a how-to or guide on forwarding udp/tcp to a specific port?06:19
JohnFluxmike-kubuntu: you can always use ssh  and use fish in konqueror06:20
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crash_Is there an application to allow Kubuntu to access a windows server terminal services?06:20
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stanisamike-kubuntu: what kind of firewall are you using? A linux box or a cable/DSL router?06:22
mike-kubuntustanisa: cable/DSL router06:22
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jonest73crash_: I believe krdc is what you are looking for. It should be in the menu under Internet.06:23
stanisathen you will have to read the user guide. Wherever you forwarded the ports, there should have been a selection of tcp/udp/all06:23
crash_hah, found one06:23
mike-kubuntustanisa: just found a packages called udptunnel, do clients need any special information to know to look to the ssh port for udp packets or will they try that by default?06:24
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stanisamike-kubuntu: for that, you would require a linux box to be your firewall. Not the case here...06:26
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aliehai06:30
aliehow to join motu team ??06:30
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vprintsYou have to package stuff and prove you are good packager =)06:33
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adamanyone familiar with kommander?06:34
georgioshow can i uninstall kubuntu safely???06:34
georgiosnote i have dual boot06:35
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jhutchins_ltmike-kubuntu: Many routers can do that, but how to would be specific to that router.06:35
stanisageorgios: use Windows CD to boot into recovery mode and run "fixmbr06:36
samanhi... can someone help? trying to set the image on my TV06:36
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samanimage and sound06:36
stanisageorgios: then boot into Windows and delete Kubuntu partition usinf disk manager06:36
georgiosthank you06:37
adami'm writting a kommander program and i use kdessh for some remote commands, but when i have "kdessh user@hostname" kommander keeps thinking @hostname is a command, how do i tell it its not?06:37
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samanhi... can someone help? trying to set the image on my TV06:39
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stanisasaman: give us some info on what you are trying to do, your hardware, things already tried etc.06:40
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psicobrahi all06:41
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psicobrahow do i configure things like scanners etc i cant seem to find a tool06:41
stanisapsicobra: look for xsane06:41
TeraDynepsicobra: Kooka or XSane06:41
samanstanisa: after I upgraded to feisty it never worked. but I'm trying to set picture on the TV and the sound through fiberoptics06:42
psicobrayes i have those but i need to change the scanner driver06:42
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psicobrathe one that ubuntu chose works but not properly06:42
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tom__I need some help with nvidia drivers06:42
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stanisasaman: sorry man, never done via fibreoptics, I can't help06:43
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samanstanisa.... ok... thanx anyway06:43
psicobratom__: what is your problem06:43
tom__when I attempt to set up my card/drivers I get a grey screen when I use the test button.06:44
tom__I have a gforce 660006:44
psicobrahow have you installed the drivers?06:44
psicobrafrom nvidia.com or through package manager06:45
tom__they were working ok until the last update. Now I get notices that my card isn't configured for 3d support06:45
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tom__should I reinstall from nvidia?06:45
pyrotixI installed phpmyadmin, how do I log in?06:46
psicobratom__: no harm in trying06:46
tom__I'll try that thanks06:46
_4strOpyrotix: http://localhost/phpmyadmin/06:46
pyrotix_4strO: what do I log in with?06:47
pyrotix_4strO: I have gotten that far06:47
_4strOuser : root, pass : nothing06:47
_4strOper default06:47
adam_i'm writting a kommander program and i use kdessh for some remote commands, but when i have "kdessh user@hostname" kommander keeps thinking @hostname is a command, how do i tell it its not?06:48
pyrotix_4strO: " #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)" is returned06:48
_4strOpyrotix: dpkg -l | grep mysql in a terminal06:49
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_4strOpyrotix: you have a line with ii mysql-server-5.0 ??06:49
_4strOor something like this06:50
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pyrotix_4strO: I think I may have found what I did wrong, the last thing in the ubuntu tutorial still need me to press 'y' for it to install06:52
pyrotix>.<06:52
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analfabetahow i install kickoff (kde menu of suse) in kubuntu ?06:52
_4strOadam_: LINK=user@hostname; "kdessh user@$LINK" ???06:53
_4strOadam_: LINK='user@hostname'; "kdessh user@$LINK" ???06:54
ksivajiext3 partition not allowing me to write as subuse sivaji06:54
_4strOwould be better :p06:54
ksivajiext3 partition not allowing me to write as subuser* sivaji06:54
adam__4strO: ok i'll try that, thanks06:54
ksivajijucato :06:54
_4strOadam_: i'm not sure about thet, just a suggestion :)06:55
_4strOshell have just a crazy syntax:p06:55
ksivaji_4strO adam_ can you help me06:56
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_4strOadam_: adam_: LINK='user@hostname'; "kdessh $LINK" :p say me if it works06:57
adam__4strO: didn't work, looks like having a @ anywhere makes kommander assume its a command, maybe something like @@ or /@ is needed06:58
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_4strOadam_: think the problem is that 'hostname' is a command06:59
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adam__4strO: no i had it as ktv.local, which is the computer i'm accessing remotelys, hostname07:00
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adam__4strO: infact anything after an @ even symbols get assumed as commands :/07:01
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_4strOadam_: never heard that :p07:01
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adam__4strO: I looked through the handbook and nothing about what to do when you want a @ in a command07:02
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_4strOadam_: i imagine that you tried \@07:03
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adam__4strO: yes07:05
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adam__4strO: annoyingly the editor then stops colouring it green like a command but it still brings up an error about ktv (or whatever hostname) not being a command07:06
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Adam_4strO: ah i solved it i had user=adam@; exec(kdessh $user ktv.local)07:11
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_4strOAdam: nice shot :)07:12
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enryhi07:13
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_4strOAdam: exec(kdessh adam@ktv.local) works too ?07:14
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_4strO!salute07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about salute - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
_4strO!hi07:14
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:15
_4strO!hi | enry07:15
ubotuenry: please see above07:15
_4strO^^07:15
enry??07:16
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_4strOnothing ....07:16
Adam_4strO: no, you get an error saying ktv isn't a command07:17
r00t_whats the apt-get for installing drivers for fglx?07:17
snutte82#sweden07:17
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Adamr00t: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:18
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Adamr00t: have you considered aiglx instead of xgl, its far more stable and courses less problems07:19
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_4strOAdam: i will never understand the bash syntax :p07:21
r00t_adam_: im not sure what i need crdlb was helping me yesterday but my comp was fubard so i had to reinstallteh card i have is a ati radeon Xpress 1150 and im trying to setup beryl/compiz07:21
r00t_adam_: ^^07:24
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treKremhi everybody.07:31
treKremi got a question concerning volume hotkeys on a laptop07:31
treKremthe keys are working and changing the volume already07:32
treKrembut i would like to decrease the interval07:32
treKremwher could i set that up in kubuntu?07:32
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r00t_isnt there one apt-get command that install all restricted codecs?07:34
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xaaaxwhat is the configuration file in kde that stores "Monitor & Display" refresh rate?07:34
treKremhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:35
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jhutchinsxaaax: kde doesn't really handle that, it's xorg, /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:35
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jhutchinsxaaax: Most modern setups just query the monitor at runtime though.07:35
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r00t_!codecs07:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:36
xaaaxjhutchins: I know, but in xorg.conf there is no refresh rate information. I mean, it has the boundaries of refresh rate, but not the exact rate I want07:37
xaaaxI can't specify 85, it only says: 45-9007:37
jhutchinsxaaax: see if krandrtray does anything for you.07:37
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jhutchinsxvidtune might also be useful for generating a specific rate.07:38
xaaaxthe thing is, I know I can get 85 because I had it before. But now, kde just won't let me select that option07:39
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pyrotixtrying to start apache2 I get: "07:40
pyrotixapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName07:40
pyrotix(98): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8007:40
pyrotixno listening sockets available, shutting down07:40
pyrotixUnable to open logs07:40
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pyrotix"07:40
pyrotixwhat do I need to fix07:41
pyrotixI guess I shoulda used pastebin >.<07:41
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admin_esapaol?07:42
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admin_quien habla esPAOL?07:43
llutz!es| admin_07:44
ubotuadmin_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:44
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aos101@pyrotix: Are you starting apache as root using sudo?  I get that error if I don't start it as root.07:45
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pyrotixaos101: I need to create a root account? If I su to do it, how do I log out of root?07:47
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aos101You don't need to create a root account.  Just put sudo before the command to start apache and it will run the one command as root.07:49
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aos101These are the commands they recommend to start/stop apache: http://tinyurl.com/3yu8kc07:50
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r00t_wheres the menu icon for restricted drivers manager in kubuntu?07:52
pyrotixaos101, I was using sudo07:53
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pyrotixusing the commands recommended to start I get:07:53
msetimSomeone install the vmware on kubuntu 64 bits?07:53
pyrotixpyrotix@monolith:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start07:53
pyrotixapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName07:53
pyrotixand to stop I got07:54
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pyrotixapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName07:54
r00t_msetim: automatix claims it can do it07:54
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jhutchins!automatix07:54
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ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:54
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jhutchins!sudo | pyrotix07:55
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ubotupyrotix: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:55
jhutchins!kdesu | pyrotix07:55
ubotupyrotix: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:55
aos101I got that error when I installed it also.  They have a fix for that error here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28apache%29#head-42714b7a81f075c4f6024b8e0a36e2fccb11fdbd07:55
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r00t_dose kubuntu even have a menu item for restricted drivers?07:56
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r00t_noone here knows wether or not kubuntu has a gui interface to install restricted drivers?07:59
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pyrotixaos101: thank you very much, it now starts up properly. So now if someone http's to either my IP or a webdomain linked to my IP they will be served /var/www ?08:02
jhutchinsr00t_: You're thinking of Windows.08:02
aos101pyrotix: Yes, thats right.08:03
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r00t_jhutchins: never mind i found it,and no im not thinking of windows ive had 5 years of therapy to prevent that08:04
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pyrotixaos101, and if their is a html/php file in their called index, it will appear in their web browser?08:05
r00t_jhutchins:  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager08:06
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bentob0xis there any way to use regex for searching Contents in Konqueror file browser?08:07
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aos101pyrotix: Whether pages called index will automatically appear depends on the setup of apache.  Try it and see if it works.08:08
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vzduchevening :)08:13
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psygrassi have a problem when i try to restart my computer a black screen appears without the progress bar and the computer hangs so that i have to shut it down manually...is there a way to fix that?08:16
psygrassthis happens in kubuntu only (not ubuntu)08:18
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vzduchcould it be that gs is somewhat broken in *buntu? I tried printing an email (HTML) to PDF from KMail, but it aborts w/ an unexpected error from gs.. same in Ubuntu and Kubuntu08:22
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Daisuke_Idovzduch: um... no?  i just tried and it worked fine, haven't changed any settings08:27
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grul!java08:29
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:29
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vzduchhere it says 'Abnormal process termination"08:30
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vzduchfor info: gs default settings, I haven't touched them since installing Kubuntu08:31
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vzduchDaisuke_Ido: do you think there is a way to reset the gs settings in KMail to default? I always took over my customized kmailrc from my previous installation, perhaps that's where the dog lies buried ;)08:40
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Dusk_!kdesu08:44
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:44
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psygrasswhen i restart or shutdown, the computer hangs and doesn't shutdown, is there a way to fix this please?08:48
r00t_how do i edit my sources options inside a gui?ubuntu has it in the system menu08:48
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BONETHUGS333hi08:52
xcxnobody? :D08:52
xcxhi08:52
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Minatakugenii! :D08:56
MinatakuHeya :308:56
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geniiMinataku: Heyas08:56
MinatakuSo what's the status?08:56
needhelpleaseif my partition is "sda4" how does that translate to (hd0)08:57
geniiMinataku: Got the package weaned down, need to wait for next paycheque to send08:57
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dwidmannneedhelplease: hd0 could be the drive on which sda4 resides08:57
MinatakuHow much is it going to end up coming out to?08:57
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dwidmannneedhelplease: in other words, sda translates to hd008:57
MinatakuBecause I've got another two packages to pay for now XD08:57
dwidmannneedhelplease: and sda4 is likely (hd0,3)08:58
geniiMinataku Don't worry, I got it. Just things are a bit tight right now08:58
Minatakugenii: I know ^^08:58
MinatakuEr08:58
MinatakuRather, it's okay08:58
needhelpleaseok im trying to get ubuntu installed with grub on root part, my root partition would be sda408:58
MinatakuSorry, I'm a bit mixed up at the moment08:58
MinatakuXD08:58
geniiMinataku np :)08:59
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omegahy08:59
dwidmannneedhelplease: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda4" should work, and it may even be somewhat more "foolproof" (less room for error)08:59
geniiMinataku Finally got the wire to my office in the basement so will be on more daytime now08:59
Minatakugenii: Wait, so you'll pay the shipping? Is that what you're saying? :o08:59
Minatakugenii: Nice :D08:59
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geniiMinataku Yes, I'm paying the shipping so don't sweat it09:00
needhelpleasedo this from live cd ??09:00
dhqis there anyway to tweak the uptime of the machine09:00
MinatakuAwesome, thanks :309:00
omegaany one knows a link for multimedia problems?09:00
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dwidmannneedhelplease: Yeah, that's how I usually do it09:00
Minatakudhq: You mean cheat?09:00
crash_Mornin everyone09:00
dhqyes09:00
dhqMinataku, yes09:00
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geniisorta AFK a while09:00
JaywadHas anyone here gotten Firefox to run Windows Media Player video streams?09:01
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Minatakudhq: Yeah, there probably is, but I'm gonna make you work for your cheats09:01
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needhelpleaseI was using (hd0:3) not (hd0,3) this could be the problem09:01
dhqMinataku, tell me09:01
Minatakudhq: I don't know any09:01
MinatakuNor am I gonna look09:01
dhqoh09:01
dwidmannneedhelplease: could be, grub is pretty finicky about syntax.09:02
MinatakuWhy the dishonesty?09:02
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MinatakuTrying to outdo a friend?09:02
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MinatakuJust be careful you don't set it too high09:02
dhqMinataku, well i switched of a machine i will be screwed tommro09:02
Minatakudhq: Make an excuse09:02
needhelpleaseok thanx09:02
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dhqMinataku, i may get fired09:02
MinatakuTell them it was making a bad noise09:02
MinatakuSo you had to shut it down to protect the machine and investigate09:03
MinatakuThen tell them you pulled something out of the fan09:03
dwidmannMinataku: how devious :D09:03
dhqMinataku, nothing works there09:03
MinatakuYou'll be hailed as a hero09:03
dhqMinataku, i will try to google09:03
MinatakuNow, if you walked past a machine making a nasty buzzing noise, wouldn't you shut it off?09:04
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dhqthe machine are maintained weekly09:04
dwidmanndhq: well, after you tweak your uptime, be sure to modify the logs too.09:04
MinatakuThat doesn't mean something can happen between maintenances09:04
alexchizhhi09:04
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MinatakuYeah, there's a lot more clues to the machine going down than uptime09:05
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RivaeAeryaIs it worth switching to KDE from GNOME if you are used to GNOME completely?09:05
dhqMinataku, well they look at uptime mainly09:05
MinatakuI'd go with the "audible operational discrepancy" tactic09:05
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juanhello09:05
Minatakudhq: And sorry for giving you trouble09:05
alexchizhhello09:05
needhelpleaseis there a root pass for the live cd09:05
needhelpleasefor using sudo09:06
TeraDyneneedhelplease: no.09:06
dwidmannneedhelplease: no09:06
needhelpleasethnx09:06
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Minatakudhq: But really, I'd go for the "it was making a nasty grinding noise" tactic, myself09:06
MinatakuMake it look like you saved the day instead of screwing up09:07
dwidmannFailing any of these excuses, you tripped over the power cord.09:07
dhqMinataku, well i need to know a way to set the uptime09:07
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MinatakuOr "Bill" tripped over the power cord09:07
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MinatakuOr "Julie from Marketing, the one with the big fat ass" sat on the keyboard and it rebooted09:08
dhqlol09:08
dwidmannas per the uptime, try modifying /proc/uptime09:08
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vbanaithi anybody using gnumed09:09
MinatakuIf all else fails, in the words of Homer Simpson... blame the guy who doesn't speak any English09:09
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MinatakuOr a janitor09:09
vbanaitGNUMed anybody used it09:09
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vbanaiti have difficulty setting up gnumed09:10
dwidmannvbanait: not I09:10
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polopoloHello all, how can I make a folder in /opt/?09:11
Minatakusudo mkdir /opt/blahblah09:11
rysiek|plpolopolo: why would you need one?09:11
polopolovirtualbox09:12
binksok i have a virtual dvb adapter but if i try to scan with it i get09:12
pyrotixpolopolo: kdesu konqueror, then go to /opt and you can right click make director09:12
vbanaitanybody help me set up GNUmed. i will allow remote connection09:12
rysiek|plpolopolo: ah. ok, in that case go with Minataku's suggestion09:12
Minatakupolopolo: Just make a directory for it in /home09:12
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MinatakuThat'd be best, then tell it to use that09:12
binks open '/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0': 1 Operation not permitted09:12
Minatakuvbanait: Please do not ask so often09:12
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pyrotixcan someone visit http://70.48.13.214/? I'm trying to set up apache09:12
pyrotixgah09:12
MinatakuIf nobody has an answer, they won't answer you, this is to reduce channel congestion09:12
pyrotixcan someone visit http://70.48.13.214/ ? I'm trying to set up apache09:13
MinatakuPlease keep asking frequency to 15min09:13
vbanaiti am trying to get help for last 15 days09:13
Minatakuvbanait: I've been here the past 15 days09:13
MinatakuThis is the first time I've ever seen you09:13
vbanaitgreat. then please help me09:13
MinatakuI don't use GNUmed09:14
MinatakuAnd it's possible nobody here does09:14
posingaspopularpyrotix: i tried visiting but i timed out before ihit the server09:14
pyrotixthank you posing09:14
posingaspopularpyrotix: i hope that helps09:14
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Minatakupyrotix: Same here09:14
pyrotixnot as much as it could >.<09:14
vbanaitwhere should i seek help09:14
dwidmannvbanait: try #ubuntu, more people in that room, > chance that someone there uses it.09:15
pyrotixIf people can't make external connections to apache, what should I do?09:15
MinatakuIf all else fails, check the documentation09:15
Minatakupyrotix: Fix your firewall09:15
vbanaitnews for you, there is nobody today09:15
pyrotixalready have opened port 8009:15
posingaspopularvbanait: what is gnumed09:15
vbanaitit is electronic medical record09:16
vbanaiti installed it on ubuntu09:16
posingaspopularvbanait: did tou try mailing the gnumed dev list? that's what i would do09:16
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vbanaiti can access the database (demo) on server, but could not establish connection with local dabase on machine09:17
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vbanaithi anybody listening09:20
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TeraDynevbanait: You said you're using it in Ubuntu?09:21
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SteffeN80RTHallo Zusammen"!09:22
vbanaityes09:22
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TeraDyne!ubuntu09:22
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com09:22
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TeraDyneGah, I thought that had the other support message09:23
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MinatakuIn short, vbanait, go to #ubuntu09:23
MinatakuWe help with Kubuntu09:23
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vbanaitas i am not getting help there, i thought you will help me09:23
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TeraDynevbanait: Anyway, you should really go to #ubuntu or check their website at http://www.gnumed.org/09:23
TeraDyneLAG!09:24
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vbanaitultimately both products are related09:24
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Minatakuvbanait: Nobody here can help you09:24
saintm1777hi all09:24
dwidmannvbanait: and as I said, ultimately, there are more people in the #ubuntu channel than there are here09:24
MinatakuComplaining isn't going to magically cause someone to have the answer09:24
TeraDynevbanait: Not entirely. Kubuntu is based more on KDE, while Ubuntu is based on GNOME.09:24
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MinatakuIt's just going to keep pissing us off09:24
vbanaitokay guys bye09:25
MinatakuWe don't know. We can't help. Sorry.09:25
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dwidmanncalm down Minataku09:25
saintm1777hi ardchoille09:25
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vzduchDaisuke_Ido: can you please pastebin your [KPrinter Settings]  section from ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc?  thanks :)09:25
spheardhas anyone seen radio and check boxes not displaying properly. ie. no black bit in the middle?09:25
Minatakudwidmann: Let 'em go back to Windows if they want everything done for them09:25
spheardin the intall09:25
spheardinstal09:25
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spheardkubuntu+109:26
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geniidwidmann Heh :)09:26
MinatakuI'ma be getting a Personal DECstation 5000/33 and a SPARCbook 3GX :D09:26
admin_quien habla espaol?09:26
Minataku!es | admin_09:26
ubotuadmin_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:26
Minataku:)09:26
admin_hola09:26
SteffeN80RTHello Everybody! I got a Laptop which is about half a year old with a NVIDIA grafic adapter. do I need to use the nvidia-glx-new package to have 3d support or do I need another driver package?09:27
TeraDyneMinataku:  I can say one thing for that person, GNUMed's docs aren't easy to navigate.09:27
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MinatakuTeraDyne: I've never even heard of the program09:27
MinatakuAnyway, brb09:27
MinatakuI gotta go do something09:27
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TeraDyneMinataku: Neither had I untill now.09:27
admin_espaol09:27
BONETHUGS333is there a way to change the display pixel (1024xdunno) ????09:27
TeraDyne!es | admin_09:27
ubotuadmin_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:27
BONETHUGS333in K(Ubuntu)09:27
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Tm_TSteffeN80RT: -new prolly works best09:28
geniigone but returning. Checking the 2nd cable roof -> basement09:29
Tm_TSteffeN80RT: though normal might work too09:29
TeraDyneBONETHUGS333: K Menu > System Settings > Monitor & Display09:29
BONETHUGS333THANK YOU VERY MUCH =)09:29
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RivaeAeryaWhen will KDE4 be released in Kubuntu? when Gutsy does?09:30
saintm1777any new stuff?09:30
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TeraDyneRivaeAerya: Probably the release after KDE 4 is Released09:30
RivaeAeryaTeraDyne: So, when KDE 4 is released, i have to wait till the next Ubuntu?09:31
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psycoseHi, i'm trying to install libqt4-dev in Ubuntu Feisty (i686 up to date) but seems it is broke do you know how could i handle this thanks09:32
TeraDyneRivaeAerya: Well, they'll probably have a special repo for people using the version of Kubunu at that time.09:32
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TeraDyneRivaeAerya: You'd be able to get KDE4 from there.09:32
RivaeAeryaTeraDyne: alright09:32
SteffeN80RTTm_T do you mean the nvidia-glx ?09:33
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Tm_TSteffeN80RT: yes09:33
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SteffeN80RTthanks09:34
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shiers69anyone here know how to get wireless working w/ wpa?09:35
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MinatakuBack09:36
kain_how would i create a connection to a network drive in kubuntu?09:36
BONETHUGS333is tor a good proxy for (K)ubuntu?09:36
kain_how would i create a connection to a network drive in kubuntu?09:38
vzduchdefine 'network drive'09:38
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kain_i need to connect to a place on the network09:39
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kain_i want to connect to a shared file on a windows machine09:39
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Minatakuwb, genii09:40
BONETHUGS333does TOR (proxy) works on (k)ubuntu ???09:40
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geniiMinataku: thenks :) 2nd cat5 worked :)09:40
MinatakuAwesome :D09:41
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shiers69anyone have a solution to the VERY COMMON wpa/28% connection problem09:41
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admin_BUENAS09:46
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Toy_hola09:46
Toy_les digo09:46
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Toy_que ya esta version de linux09:46
vzduchen ingls aqu por favor, gracias :)09:47
Toy_es un fastidio09:47
binks_ok i have a dvb adapter but if i try to scan with it i get open '/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0': 1 Operation not permitted09:47
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CrunchyFerrett!espanol09:48
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:48
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papatag09:49
BONETHUGS333moinsen09:49
CrunchyFerrettbeer?09:49
nathanhi09:50
papagerne / yes09:50
jgonzalezhi there... I would like to change the default permissions for an automatically mounted USB flash drive from 755 to 700... I guess ubuntu uses a combination of udev/pmount to manage this, but I can't find the place where this is defined, anybody can help?09:50
nathanRunning ogle DVD player, however console keeps staying packets are scrambled, and display is blocky09:50
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BONETHUGS333what proxy yall use09:51
CrunchyFerrettnathan, have you installed the dvdlibcss2 libraries?09:51
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CrunchyFerrettor is it libdvdcss2...09:51
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nathandont know... can you guide me through please?09:53
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dwidmannCrunchyFerrett: the latter09:53
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geniisorta AFK a while09:54
kain_i want to connect to a shared file on a windows machine how would i do this09:54
CrunchyFerrett!dvd | nathan09:54
ubotunathan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs09:54
nathanive been there before09:54
nathani tried downloading but dunno if it worked09:55
nathann e way to tell?09:55
CrunchyFerrettWhere did you download it from?09:55
nathanthat link09:55
nathanbut it confused me09:55
CrunchyFerretthttp://seveas.imbrandon.com/09:56
CrunchyFerrettTHats where you get the package to install. Its got instructions and everythign09:56
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nathan!Universe09:57
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:57
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nathanwhat package from that link i after exactly?09:58
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nathanhow i know which version of linux i got09:59
nathanthink its feisty but not sure09:59
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CrunchyFerrettTo be completely honest, Im about as confused as you are.09:59
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Tm_Tnathan: cat /etc/issue09:59
CrunchyFerrettI just followed the instructions on the !dvd link09:59
nathanubuntu 7.0410:00
nathanso i need to download ubuntu-seveas for feisty 7.04 right10:00
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CrunchyFerrettya10:01
nathanthe component im after "all (browse contents)" ?10:02
posingaspopularnathan: what are you trying to do?10:02
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nathaninstall something to download DVD codecs?10:02
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nathandvdcsslib2 or summat like that10:02
posingaspopularyou said you're running fesity? it should do it automatically10:03
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posingaspopularwhen you try to open the file10:03
nathanwhat u on bout10:03
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nathanposing 1 min ill post what consoles returning10:03
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nathanWARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps] : Found a scrambled PES packet! (1)10:04
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miltoshi ppl:-)10:07
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miltoshow to fix the refresh rate and resolution for nvidia in kubuntu?10:09
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Tired_1miltos: try System Settings - Monitor & Display first10:10
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miltosTired_1: I've tried Monitor and Display without sucess...moreover the maximum refresh rate I get from there is 55!10:11
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vzduchmiltos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:13
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vzduchwhen it comes to the monitor section, go to Advanced and enter the horizontal sync and vertical refresh rates10:13
BluesKajmiltos, have you checked your monitor drivers , sometimes X acts up with just the plugnplay type generic ones10:14
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miltosBlusesKaj: how to check monitor drivers?10:15
BluesKajin system setttings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode/configure10:15
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psycoseIf there are some Qt expert down here i got a problem linking some Qt application ! see http://paste.debian.net/31936 thanks10:21
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binks_is there some way of telling if something is locking my dvb adapter10:22
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enrygood night10:23
shiers69anyone have a solution to the VERY COMMON wpa/28% connection problem10:24
shiers69I'm currently unable to manually enable my wireless nic10:24
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psygrassplease i need some advice regarding this problem... I installed kubuntu (fresh installation) after using Ubuntu for a while... but now kubuntu doesn't restart or shutdown...instead it just hangs with black screen. Do I need to edit grub menu or what??10:43
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Dariohello10:45
Dariohelp me with ati drivers10:45
Darioplease10:45
jussi01!ati10:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:45
Dariokubuntu es?10:46
Dario!espanol10:46
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:46
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halpedhola10:47
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Dariohola halped10:48
CrunchyFerrettNever realized that Linux has a such a large spanish speaking user base.,10:48
CrunchyFerrett...10:48
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CrunchyFerrettI want a list of every trigger for ubotu10:50
CrunchyFerrett!trigger10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trigger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
jhutchinsCrunchyFerrett: The web page lists 'em all.10:50
sparrwthe kde printer dialog wants to scan 127.0.0.* because thats one of my subnets.  isnt that true for everyone?  shouldn it search the OTHER subnet?10:50
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CrunchyFerrettcrikey10:51
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jthomassparrw: thats the localhost aka your machine10:54
sparrwjthomas: im well aware of that, which is why scanning it seems stupid10:54
binks_  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source << how can i get this cmd to work i thought i install kernel source10:55
jthomassparrw: sorta yeah unless your printer is setup locally...10:55
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sparrwjthomas: and it isnt10:55
binks_i just get   bash: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/source: No such file or directory10:55
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binks_!kernel source10:55
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages10:55
jthomassparrw: true in your case perhaps, but many printers are set up locally10:56
sparrwjthomas: yes, and those people probably pick "local printer"10:56
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jthomassparrw: good point.  i don't really set up printers too much...!10:57
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sparrwif i was less lazy i would file a bug report10:58
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binks_anyone how do i install the kernel source not just the headers10:59
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jthomascan anyone tell me some secret to either Kubuntu or WinXPHome to allow for Samba?  I have found a lot of guides for Ubuntu but many are related to GUI tools.  My workgroup TUXNET is now finally available to be seen in my 'Remote Places' konqueror window, but nothing responds when i try to browse it.  WinXPHome has no firewall enabled, sharing is turned on...10:59
jthomasbut i have no other Windows machines to test to see which the problem is with10:59
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binks_anyone how do i install the kernel source not just the headers11:01
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jthomasbinks_: can you look in Adept and find them there?11:03
binks_will look11:04
binks_wll i need to add source repos11:05
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binks_ok i install linux-source but i still dont get it in /usr/src11:07
binks_bash: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/source: No such file or directory11:07
binks_maybe i need to link the src to that folder11:08
jthomasbinks_: i am sorry, i wish that i knew more.  try (at a command line) updateing 'locate -u' then use locate to find the sources perhaps11:09
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Zvezdi`go`nqmahello, where is the KDE Theme manager?11:11
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rathelCan someone help me with cedega?11:12
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crubeI keep getting "An error occured while loading the torrent. The torrent is probably corrupt or is not a torrent file." Seems to happen with every torrent11:16
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jhutchinscrube: Try a different client.11:20
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jhutchinsrathel: I thought cedega was a commercial product.11:21
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WaxyFreshjust installed fiesty 64,and i dont have any sound on my laptop11:21
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SanityInAnarchyQuestion: How can I figure out what program is capturing a particular keystroke?11:22
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WaxyFreshjhutchins: any idea?^i think this is a simple prob.in ubuntu its always the external amp that needs playing with in the gmix setting but i cant find that on kubuntu's kmix11:23
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miltoshow do get rid of pager on kubuntu startup?11:24
jhutchinsWaxyFresh: I usually start by running alsamixer to see if the sound sysetem loaded.11:24
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jhutchinsWaxyFresh: Then I cat something to /dev/dsp to see if I'm getting output.11:24
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jhutchinsmiltos: Just remove it and then do a clean log-out.11:25
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miltosjhutchins: clean log out...how?11:25
jhutchinsSelect log out from the menu.11:26
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miltospager persists even with a clean log-out...any help?11:27
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WaxyFreshjhutchins: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument11:29
CrunchyFerrett!opengl11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
CrunchyFerrett!gl11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
WaxyFreshjhutchins: how do i run alsamixer?i just typed it in a a CL?11:30
jhutchinsWaxyFresh: Yep.11:30
miltosI cannot get rid of pager...any help?11:30
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WaxyFreshjhutchins: it said: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument11:30
jhutchinsmiltos: What are you actually trying to get rid of?11:31
__mikemare there ANY efforts being made to taylor the Kubuntu look and feel so it looks less like default kde and more specific to ubuntu11:31
jhutchinsWaxyFresh: Ok, you've got problems with the drivers then.11:31
WaxyFreshgrrr ok ill go do some googleing11:31
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miltosjhutchins:pager desktop manager...11:31
jussi01__mikem: its up to you to change it how you like11:32
jhutchinsYeah, sorry, but I don't know anything about the 64b stuff.  Be sure to look for stuff specific to your chipset.11:32
DaSkreech__mikem: It is customized11:32
__mikemjussi01, I am not creative enough to make it look the way I want. The fact is, they did such a great job branding gnome for ubuntu, why can't they do that with kubuntu11:32
SanityInAnarchy__mikem:  I think they did, it's just blue instead11:32
jhutchinsmiltos: Run your mouse over it.  You'll see a "handle" to the left of it, right click that, choose "Remove...".11:32
__mikemDaSkreech, they still have the default kde menu icon for crying out loud11:33
DaSkreech__mikem: What? It's near Default Gnome11:33
DaSkreech__mikem: You want that changed to a Gear?11:33
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DaSkreechThat's the only change I can think that they would do :)11:33
affanhello All... I have Xubuntu installed from some time ago on this laptop... how do I check which version it is? as in Dapper or Edgy etc? thanks11:34
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__mikemaffan wrong chanel , try #xubuntu11:34
CrunchyFerrettHow the heck do I know if opengl is installed or not?11:34
miltosjhutchins: ok ...but it will come up on next reboot!11:34
CrunchyFerrettor is it a driver issue...11:34
jussi01!version11:34
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell11:34
DaSkreechaffan: lsb_release -a11:34
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jussi01lol11:34
__mikemDaSkreech, it would be nice if they could change the default kde menu icon by default. I will admit, I just now noticed that the window decoration is nicely customized11:35
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DaSkreechAnd the Kmenu and desktop11:35
jhutchins__mikem: I don't think that's the default kde icon.11:35
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DaSkreechIt isn't but ...11:35
DaSkreechlet him rant a little :)11:36
jhutchinsMandriva tried changing it to "Mandriva", caught a lot of flack.  Too wide for one.11:36
DaSkreechThey Kould have jsut Done M with Gears through it11:36
affanOK I have 6.06 (xubuntu) installed.... i want to upgrade to the latest version of Kubuntu... do you know what is the easiest (and quickest) way? thanks!11:36
DaSkreechThat should suffice11:36
ciaconI have just for kicks installed the enlightment desktop... can anyone give me a hint how to start a new session (preferably also enlightment)...11:36
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jussi01affan: sudo apt-ge install kubuntu-desktop11:37
jhutchinsciacon: Not something we know much about here in kubuntu.11:37
affanjussi01, would that upgrade my distribution version as well?11:37
DaSkreechciacon: You want to log into E?11:37
jgonzalez_hi there, does anybody know how to configure the default permissions for usb flash drives in KDE?11:37
DaSkreechaffan: nope11:37
jussi01ciacon: log out, then change the session from the menu, log in11:37
__mikemIt isn't?11:38
jhutchins__mikem: Nope.11:38
affanDaSkreech, how do i do that then? should i download and reinstall from the CD?11:38
ciaconI need two simultanious sessions... I know it works for kde... I was hoping I could achieve the same in enlightment...11:38
DaSkreechciacon: try xnest11:39
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jhutchins__mikem: Anyway, this is linux, if you don't like it, change it.11:39
DaSkreechaffan: If you want the fast way then yes11:39
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affanok thanks DaSkreech11:40
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jhutchins/etc/X11/X -br -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp :1 vt811:41
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stievIf i have nothing really important to lose, is the easiest method for switching from gnome to kde just reformatting with the latest kubuntu disc?11:46
DaSkreechstiev: I guess. Do you have KDE installed already ?11:47
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__mikemDaSkreech, I guess what I was saying before is, I wish they had like a human theme for kde. I just think it would look awesome11:49
stievDaSkreech: Nope, just am finding that I prefer the kde configured versions of things, mainly the PIM... also am having a little trouble getting KOntact to run as it stands11:49
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WaxyFreshjhutchins: i just mad e a post on the forums about my problem what info should i include?i already did all my hardware stuff im looking for11:49
WaxyFreshCL line things11:49
DaSkreechstiev: you could just remove Gnome and apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop11:49
DaSkreech__mikem: Yeah I guess but Theming in KDE is alittle more involved than Gnome11:50
WaxyFreshi cant seam to find the menu option to configure which sources i use like i could in gnome anyone know where it would be?11:50
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__mikemDaSkreech, thats why I am not too crazy about doing it myself hence me bringing it up in here11:51
DaSkreech:-)11:51
DaSkreechWell If you have some strong art leanings you can jump to #kubuntu-devel11:51
mahdianyone want to comment on the stability/useability of Kubuntu Fiesty 64-bit?11:51
Contrast83WaxyFresh: In my honest opinion, as much as I prefer KDE and Qt, GNOME's package management apps are way better, and are all I use for the purpose.11:52
__mikemDaSkreech, I am not good at creating UI's I am a programmer. Everybody knows programmers don't do good UI design11:52
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DaSkreech__mikem: I know. I meant if you have something constructive critique of what is needed now other than make it Look like Human11:53
DaSkreechmahdi: very solid Quite usable if you like FOSS :)11:53
mahdiDaSkreech: neat-o, thanks11:53
VSpikeWaxyFresh: kdesu adept_manager11:54
WaxyFreshContrast83: i also but gnome has a menu option in system? called "software sources" that lets you edit your sources easily is that possible to install on kubuntu?and if so do you know the package name?11:54
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VSpikeWaxyFresh: then on menu, go to Adept->Manage Repositories11:55
WaxyFreshVSpike: thanks11:55
Contrast83WaxyFresh: I don't remember the name of it specifically, but I know if you install "gnome-app-install", Software Sources gets installed along with it11:55
DaSkreechWaxyFresh: alt+space -> adept -> <enter> -> Adept Menu -> Manage Repos11:55
Contrast83WaxyFresh: Why not just edit sources.list? It's so much quicker :-)11:56
WaxyFreshContrast83: not always11:57
VSpikeWaxyFresh: actually "kdesu /usr/bin/software-properties-kde" also works11:57
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MidMarkhi11:58
MidMarkit's the first time I saw a dvd burner not recognized by linux11:59
MidMarkis a lite-on ssm-851511:59
MidMarkany help to make it working?11:59
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jhutchinsMidMark: I had one a while back that wasn't recognized as a burner.12:01
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jhutchinsDidn't have time to resolve it.12:02
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MidMarkjhutchins: problem this is in a laptop12:03
MidMark:(12:03
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Graham!divx12:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:04
jhutchinsMidMark: http://www.cdrfaq.org12:04
GrahamI've got w32codecs, what else do I need to play divx?12:04
dariohey friends12:05
jhutchins!css | Graham12:05
ubotuGraham: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:05
dariodisplay: :0.0 screen: 012:05
darioOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org12:05
darioOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect12:05
darioOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)12:05
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Grahamjhutchins: I already have that12:05
jhutchinsdario: Don't do that, you'll get knocked off the server.12:05
dariosorry12:06
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WaxyFreshhow do you get flash/shockwave to work on a 64 bit comp?12:06
GrahamI'll explain, it plays but it's all messed up, the video looks very corrupt.12:06
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GrahamBut it ISN'T corrupt.12:07
jhutchins!paste | dario12:07
ubotudario: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:07
WaxyFresh!6412:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
deluxeeeey ive searched google for a way to enable beryl on my fresh installed kubuntu, but i only get hits on how to fix it with ubuntu12:07
WaxyFresh!amd12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
deluxe!beryl12:08
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects12:08
deluxe!compiz12:08
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:08
knubbehow do i forward multiple ports with ssh?12:09
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WaxyFreshcan anyone take a look at this and tell me what info i should ad to be more helpfull to those that read it?http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2957811#post295781112:11
WaxyFreshis there a irc room for 64bit ubuntu users?12:11
dwidmannWaxyFresh: I doubt it12:12
dwidmannWaxyFresh: at least there isn't as far as I know12:12
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dwidmannWaxyFresh: anyhow, have you checked that alsa website to see if the card is or isn't supported?12:13

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