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kwwiigood morning all!12:20
kwwiiwell, afternoon is more like it12:20
kwwiiat least here12:21
nysosymhi kwwii my friend, how are u? :)12:27
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kwwiinysosym: doing well, and you?12:35
nysosyma little bit sleepy but, fine :)12:36
nysosymwhat are the results of your irish trip? :)12:36
kwwiiactually, I was in Glasgow :-(12:37
kwwiiit was the wrong weekend to go to Glasgow12:37
nysosymwhy?12:37
kwwiiwell, there was a bombing at the airport :-(12:39
nysosymohhh O.o, sry i didn*t read such kind of news...12:40
nysosyma personal trip, or a trip for canoncial?12:41
kwwiiit was a personal trip12:43
kwwiiI attended akademy (the KDE conference)12:44
nysosymohh well, that's horrible12:44
kwwiiit certainly made travelling horrible12:44
nysosymsure, was the rest of the trip fine? :)12:46
kwwiiyepp12:46
kwwiiI wonder if anyone is still working on their own community theme for Gutsy12:47
nysosymhmm i can't, a lot to do with my private work and i didn't know, that anybody still working on a community theme12:49
kwwiitroy_s was talking about starting one, and nothlit`alpha also I think - I wonder what the status is12:50
nysosymSounds good, but work smooth, apples "new" desktop, isn't revolutionary and apple is imho sate of the art :D12:53
nothlit`alphalol yeah concept etc, but no feedback on mockups or concept, let alone contributions, so without any input its not a community theme12:55
nysosymfeedback? Show me, what u have :D12:56
nysosymOn the other side i think, it's an community theme, when no one of the main company has any proportion on that theme.12:58
nothlit`alphabah, people.fluxbuntu.or's httpd is down, joejaxx, ping?12:59
kwwiiI'd like to encourage people to make their own themes, it shows that the ubuntu artwork community can actually get something done :-)12:59
kwwiiI've entertained the idea that we could all work on some part of Gutsy artwork together01:00
kwwiibut I am worried about starting something without any momentum behind it01:00
nothlit`alphaits all on the mailing list, the concept is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme/Collaboration+Progress , old page @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityThem01:01
nothlit`alphae01:01
nothlit`alphaif the httpd goes backup i'll link you my concept sketches and palettes01:02
nothlit`alphakwwii: if you can get more momentum going than myself that would be incredibly great :)01:03
nothlit`alphathe first deadlines in august right?01:04
kwwiiyepp01:04
nysosymwtf01:04
nysosymO.o01:04
nysosymand what we have is a color palette?01:05
kwwiialso, I would like to find a couple of people to invite to the Gutsy+1 Ubuntu Developer Sprint in Boston this November01:05
kwwiinysosym: for a community theme you can use your own color palette01:05
kwwiithere is no limits, really01:05
kwwiiwe just need someone to get something done that we can include on the CD01:05
nysosymkwwii: sure, but i speak about the official theme01:05
nothlit`alphai thought it was a summit lol01:05
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kwwiihehe, summit, sprint, I confuse them01:06
lapohi01:06
kwwiihi lapo!01:06
lapohey kwwii01:06
nysosymhi lapo01:06
lapoyo nysosym01:06
nysosymkwwii: and what are the limits for a theme, that we can include on the CD?01:07
kwwiinysosym: the only limit is that people have to like it somewhat :-)01:07
nothlit`alphaso how goes ubuntu mobile?01:07
kwwiiif we can get a few of those in, I think it will go a long way to proving that we can work on the default artwork without worries01:08
nysosymkwwii: really? The theme could also have a complete new color palette?01:08
kwwiinysosym: yes, definitely01:09
kwwiinothlit`alpha: good, we are getting close now01:09
nysosymbut would these match with the official ubuntu look? Everyone know ubuntu as a brown friendly system01:09
nysosym+warm01:10
nothlit`alphajust make sure its not radically different01:10
nysosymthat's my question ;)01:10
nothlit`alphawell last release ubuntu was more orange? and it got more peachy this time around01:10
nothlit`alphaso theres definitely leeway, :P01:11
nothlit`alphaas long as you don't make it ice blue or all silver etc01:11
nysosymhehe01:11
nysosymKubuntu like ;)01:11
kwwiibecause the community themes would not be default it is ok to make them any colors you want01:12
nothlit`alphaoh yeah lol :D01:12
kwwiisuggesting and helping with the default artwork is much more defined01:12
nysosymkwwii: hmm i think at first we need a well formed official theme01:13
kwwiiand yes, we will go away from the peachy colors01:13
nothlit`alphabut something along those lines would be a better demo for sabdfl?01:13
kwwiiI think so01:13
kwwiiit would prove what we can do01:13
kwwiiand it gives the artist freedom to do whatever they want01:13
nothlit`alphanysosym: you may also be interested in contributing to the ubun2 design project led by troy_s01:14
kwwiithat is a very good idea01:14
nysosymkwwii: but the official human icon theme, has also "peachy" colors, what would happen with them?01:15
nothlit`alphaits not as much a community theme project as his vision but he definitely would value a few more skilled contributors01:15
nothlit`alphathose are made by the icon factory, and i don't know about peachy01:15
kwwiieventually we will have to do something about the human theme01:15
kwwiibut to do so we would need to redo them all01:15
kwwiiand convince SABDFL ;-)01:15
nysosymnothlit`alpha: have a look to the member list of ubun2design ;)01:16
nothlit`alphasabdfl doesn't like the tango/tangerine, so atm we are still at those commisioned icons for official purposes01:16
nothlit`alphanysosym: ahh lol sorry01:16
nysosymnothlit`alpha: but my time is very fluent...01:17
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lapoI could redo all the human icons tango style in a pair of weeks (or a pair o full week ends), but you know no tango style allowed :-)01:21
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nysosymfor a long long time ago, i can still remember, i have made a Folder Concept, if anyone would have the svg source, only say one word :D01:37
nysosymhttp://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotobf7.png01:37
kwwiilapo: I think that sabdfl wants an icon theme that is unique to ubuntu (not that he hates tango or anything)01:53
andreasnare you having that discussion _again_ ?02:06
andreasn:)02:07
kwwiihehe, believe me, sometimes it feels like a film02:18
andreasnare you at akademy now?02:20
kwwiinope, I am back at home already - didn't stay long this year02:21
nysosymkwwii: maybe you should create some standard phrases, with a little script like "\sabdfl_tango" :D02:22
kwwiinysosym: it might save time02:22
kwwiimake the markbot02:22
nysosymhehe :D02:22
nysosymNobody wanna have my icons? :D02:25
kwwiinysosym: it looks like a good idea but people seem to be leaning to less-comic-style icon these days02:26
nysosym:'( ok *hanging down*....02:27
nysosymhehe joke :D02:27
kwwiiit doesn't mean you shouldn't pursue this, of course02:27
kwwiithe first icon theme you make yourself is a great learning experience anyway02:28
nysosymyes, when i had some time, i will made some more. At moment, i must create some company logos...02:29
nysosymthat's boring in all way :D02:29
nysosymand frustrating, change that, change that etc. :D02:29
kwwiiexactly02:30
nysosymand at the end, she use my first creation...02:30
nysosymthat's the funniest part of all ^^02:31
andreasnkwwii: anyway, did you have a good time while being at akademy?02:31
kwwiiandreasn: to be honest, in my opinion, it was not as good as previous ones02:33
andreasnsorry to hear that02:34
kwwiibut I did start making a tape icon02:34
nysosym:)02:34
andreasnalways something :)02:34
kwwiiwell, I was only there for 2+ days, so maybe the rest of the week will be better02:34
kwwiithe first two days were just talks02:34
kwwiimaybe that is why I didn't like it02:34
kwwiithe kde-games guys and the artists working with them did a great presentation02:35
kwwiithey brought kde games out of the dark ages02:35
nysosymhehe, talks could be very sleepy :D02:36
nysosyma creative head will do something and didn't talk about it02:37
kwwiiwell, there are two few interesting talks for artists at a developer summit02:37
kwwiiunless I give one :p02:37
nysosym:)02:37
nysosymis it possible to read some presentations?02:38
kwwiino idea, I guess that the website would be the place to look for that02:38
andreasnyeah, we're going to be a bit short on those on guadec as well, half-considered doing one, but I prefer shutting up and draw ;)02:39
andreasnnysosym: I think there was some kind of summarys on dot.kde.org02:39
nysosymkwwii: are u on that picture?02:48
nysosymhttp://static.kdenews.org/danimo/akademy07/group-photo.html02:48
kwwiinysosym: nope, i took it02:48
nysosymdamn ^^02:48
kwwiialthough that picis using someone elses camera02:48
kwwiihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/700250020/ is probably a bit better02:49
nysosymthx, much better :)02:50
nysosymdon't get me wrong, but some of them looks really like a nerd :D02:50
kwwiithe weather was horrible - it was really hard to get a decent shot02:52
kwwiilol, yeah...02:52
nysosymMore Organised Community << well, a good and fundamental pont of sabdfl. Does he said, how we could solve this problem?02:57
nysosym*point02:57
kwwiiit was more about development but yes he did touch on some points02:58
nysosymfine :), has anyone made some movies along the presentation?03:00
kwwiiyes, but I have no idea where they are :-)03:01
lapokwwii: put your oxygen hat on for a minute: do you plan to cover the naming specs with oxygen theme? there are a lot of holes atm03:03
kwwiilapo: yes we are trying03:04
andreasnhttp://git.jimmac.net/?theme=oxygen, seems actions are getting there03:05
lapokwwii: sounds cool03:05
nysosymandreasn: wow what a nice summary, THX :)03:06
andreasnit's hammering the svn server like hell though :)03:06
lapothe hacking side of jimmac is cool eh :-)03:07
laponysosym: regarding jimmac script, if you're using firefox you can change the stylesheet to light (for..guess what? light bg :-))03:27
nysosymchecked :D03:38
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