=== kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957C94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@ppp167-251-133.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7AD91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7AD91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a59d:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955F9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:20] good morning all! [12:20] well, afternoon is more like it [12:21] at least here [12:27] hi kwwii my friend, how are u? :) === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:35] nysosym: doing well, and you? [12:36] a little bit sleepy but, fine :) [12:36] what are the results of your irish trip? :) [12:37] actually, I was in Glasgow :-( [12:37] it was the wrong weekend to go to Glasgow [12:37] why? [12:39] well, there was a bombing at the airport :-( [12:40] ohhh O.o, sry i didn*t read such kind of news... [12:41] a personal trip, or a trip for canoncial? [12:43] it was a personal trip [12:44] I attended akademy (the KDE conference) [12:44] ohh well, that's horrible [12:44] it certainly made travelling horrible [12:46] sure, was the rest of the trip fine? :) [12:46] yepp [12:47] I wonder if anyone is still working on their own community theme for Gutsy [12:49] hmm i can't, a lot to do with my private work and i didn't know, that anybody still working on a community theme [12:50] troy_s was talking about starting one, and nothlit`alpha also I think - I wonder what the status is [12:53] Sounds good, but work smooth, apples "new" desktop, isn't revolutionary and apple is imho sate of the art :D [12:55] lol yeah concept etc, but no feedback on mockups or concept, let alone contributions, so without any input its not a community theme [12:56] feedback? Show me, what u have :D [12:58] On the other side i think, it's an community theme, when no one of the main company has any proportion on that theme. [12:59] bah, people.fluxbuntu.or's httpd is down, joejaxx, ping? [12:59] I'd like to encourage people to make their own themes, it shows that the ubuntu artwork community can actually get something done :-) [01:00] I've entertained the idea that we could all work on some part of Gutsy artwork together [01:00] but I am worried about starting something without any momentum behind it [01:01] its all on the mailing list, the concept is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme/Collaboration+Progress , old page @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityThem [01:01] e [01:02] if the httpd goes backup i'll link you my concept sketches and palettes [01:03] kwwii: if you can get more momentum going than myself that would be incredibly great :) [01:04] the first deadlines in august right? [01:04] yepp [01:04] wtf [01:04] O.o [01:05] and what we have is a color palette? [01:05] also, I would like to find a couple of people to invite to the Gutsy+1 Ubuntu Developer Sprint in Boston this November [01:05] nysosym: for a community theme you can use your own color palette [01:05] there is no limits, really [01:05] we just need someone to get something done that we can include on the CD [01:05] kwwii: sure, but i speak about the official theme [01:05] i thought it was a summit lol === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:06] hehe, summit, sprint, I confuse them [01:06] hi [01:06] hi lapo! [01:06] hey kwwii [01:06] hi lapo [01:06] yo nysosym [01:07] kwwii: and what are the limits for a theme, that we can include on the CD? [01:07] nysosym: the only limit is that people have to like it somewhat :-) [01:07] so how goes ubuntu mobile? [01:08] if we can get a few of those in, I think it will go a long way to proving that we can work on the default artwork without worries [01:08] kwwii: really? The theme could also have a complete new color palette? [01:09] nysosym: yes, definitely [01:09] nothlit`alpha: good, we are getting close now [01:09] but would these match with the official ubuntu look? Everyone know ubuntu as a brown friendly system [01:10] +warm [01:10] just make sure its not radically different [01:10] that's my question ;) [01:10] well last release ubuntu was more orange? and it got more peachy this time around [01:11] so theres definitely leeway, :P [01:11] as long as you don't make it ice blue or all silver etc [01:11] hehe [01:11] Kubuntu like ;) [01:12] because the community themes would not be default it is ok to make them any colors you want [01:12] oh yeah lol :D [01:12] suggesting and helping with the default artwork is much more defined [01:13] kwwii: hmm i think at first we need a well formed official theme [01:13] and yes, we will go away from the peachy colors [01:13] but something along those lines would be a better demo for sabdfl? [01:13] I think so [01:13] it would prove what we can do [01:13] and it gives the artist freedom to do whatever they want [01:14] nysosym: you may also be interested in contributing to the ubun2 design project led by troy_s [01:14] that is a very good idea [01:15] kwwii: but the official human icon theme, has also "peachy" colors, what would happen with them? [01:15] its not as much a community theme project as his vision but he definitely would value a few more skilled contributors [01:15] those are made by the icon factory, and i don't know about peachy [01:15] eventually we will have to do something about the human theme [01:15] but to do so we would need to redo them all [01:15] and convince SABDFL ;-) [01:16] nothlit`alpha: have a look to the member list of ubun2design ;) [01:16] sabdfl doesn't like the tango/tangerine, so atm we are still at those commisioned icons for official purposes [01:16] nysosym: ahh lol sorry [01:17] nothlit`alpha: but my time is very fluent... === kwwii has to cook his son lunch...brb [01:21] I could redo all the human icons tango style in a pair of weeks (or a pair o full week ends), but you know no tango style allowed :-) === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:37] for a long long time ago, i can still remember, i have made a Folder Concept, if anyone would have the svg source, only say one word :D [01:37] http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotobf7.png [01:53] lapo: I think that sabdfl wants an icon theme that is unique to ubuntu (not that he hates tango or anything) [02:06] are you having that discussion _again_ ? [02:07] :) [02:18] hehe, believe me, sometimes it feels like a film [02:20] are you at akademy now? [02:21] nope, I am back at home already - didn't stay long this year [02:22] kwwii: maybe you should create some standard phrases, with a little script like "\sabdfl_tango" :D [02:22] nysosym: it might save time [02:22] make the markbot [02:22] hehe :D [02:25] Nobody wanna have my icons? :D [02:26] nysosym: it looks like a good idea but people seem to be leaning to less-comic-style icon these days [02:27] :'( ok *hanging down*.... [02:27] hehe joke :D [02:27] it doesn't mean you shouldn't pursue this, of course [02:28] the first icon theme you make yourself is a great learning experience anyway [02:29] yes, when i had some time, i will made some more. At moment, i must create some company logos... [02:29] that's boring in all way :D [02:29] and frustrating, change that, change that etc. :D [02:30] exactly [02:30] and at the end, she use my first creation... [02:31] that's the funniest part of all ^^ [02:31] kwwii: anyway, did you have a good time while being at akademy? [02:33] andreasn: to be honest, in my opinion, it was not as good as previous ones [02:34] sorry to hear that [02:34] but I did start making a tape icon [02:34] :) [02:34] always something :) [02:34] well, I was only there for 2+ days, so maybe the rest of the week will be better [02:34] the first two days were just talks [02:34] maybe that is why I didn't like it [02:35] the kde-games guys and the artists working with them did a great presentation [02:35] they brought kde games out of the dark ages [02:36] hehe, talks could be very sleepy :D [02:37] a creative head will do something and didn't talk about it [02:37] well, there are two few interesting talks for artists at a developer summit [02:37] unless I give one :p [02:37] :) [02:38] is it possible to read some presentations? [02:38] no idea, I guess that the website would be the place to look for that [02:39] yeah, we're going to be a bit short on those on guadec as well, half-considered doing one, but I prefer shutting up and draw ;) [02:39] nysosym: I think there was some kind of summarys on dot.kde.org [02:48] kwwii: are u on that picture? [02:48] http://static.kdenews.org/danimo/akademy07/group-photo.html [02:48] nysosym: nope, i took it [02:48] damn ^^ [02:48] although that picis using someone elses camera [02:49] http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/700250020/ is probably a bit better [02:50] thx, much better :) [02:50] don't get me wrong, but some of them looks really like a nerd :D [02:52] the weather was horrible - it was really hard to get a decent shot [02:52] lol, yeah... [02:57] More Organised Community << well, a good and fundamental pont of sabdfl. Does he said, how we could solve this problem? [02:57] *point [02:58] it was more about development but yes he did touch on some points [03:00] fine :), has anyone made some movies along the presentation? [03:01] yes, but I have no idea where they are :-) [03:03] kwwii: put your oxygen hat on for a minute: do you plan to cover the naming specs with oxygen theme? there are a lot of holes atm [03:04] lapo: yes we are trying [03:05] http://git.jimmac.net/?theme=oxygen, seems actions are getting there [03:05] kwwii: sounds cool [03:06] andreasn: wow what a nice summary, THX :) [03:06] it's hammering the svn server like hell though :) [03:07] the hacking side of jimmac is cool eh :-) [03:27] nysosym: regarding jimmac script, if you're using firefox you can change the stylesheet to light (for..guess what? light bg :-)) [03:38] checked :D === klepas [n=klepas@60-242-104-119.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@4.247-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@4.247-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955F9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955F9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn_ [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === coz_ [n=coz_@pool-68-162-128-118.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork