[01:11] <asac> further i have set my terminal to not update automatically
[01:11] <asac> so if i scroll up a bit i have all the time in the world
[01:11] <asac> to read whats there
[01:11] <asac> until i press a key
[01:11] <asac> or scroll to the very bottom
[01:11] <asac> then it will auto-scroll again
[01:12] <gnomefreak> i hated that because it would never resume scroll unless i hit return
[01:13] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/Screenshot-Editing%20Profile%20%22Default%22.png
[01:13] <asac> ah ok
[01:13] <asac> yeah ... but its essential
[01:13] <asac> if you want to see whats going on
[01:13] <asac> and hitting return is not much of an issue :)
[01:14] <asac> ok now it failed :)
[01:15] <asac> like for you
[01:15] <gnomefreak> good sort of
[01:15] <gnomefreak> i was hoping it wasnt me
[01:22] <asac> yes i talked with him yesterday
[01:22] <asac> about using git for iceweasel maintenance
[01:22] <asac> instead of svn
[01:23] <asac> so i guess this is the aftermath of that
[01:23] <asac> damn
[01:24] <asac> it doesnt fail anymore
[01:24] <asac> wtf
[01:24] <gnomefreak> wtf did you do
[01:25] <gnomefreak> most people get it to fail change something than it stops failing (im hoping you are one of these people)
[01:25] <asac> no ... its because i tried to track this down
[01:26] <asac> iu compiled a subdir manually which is apparently not tried by normal build
[01:26] <asac> and now i cannot get back to state where it fails
[01:27] <gnomefreak> re branch it :) it will fail
[01:30] <asac> sun of a bith
[01:30] <asac> i don't want to respin from beginning
[01:30] <asac> takes too much time
[01:30] <asac> son
[01:30] <asac> :)
[01:33] <gnomefreak> still cant get it to fail
[01:33] <asac> i cleaned more (bug not all) ... so lets see if it fails again
[01:33] <asac> building atm
[01:34] <gnomefreak> if it doesnt fail than there is something with that file no?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> s/there/it
[01:35] <gnomefreak> maybe your plugin is borked
[01:35] <gnomefreak> than again maybe its LP
[01:37] <gnomefreak> its FF :(
[01:37] <gnomefreak> wtf
[01:38] <gnomefreak> asac: are you having issues with firefox?
[01:38] <asac> he?
[01:38] <asac> no its definitly something with Makefile.in
[01:38] <gnomefreak> this cant be good iceape is failing to work as well
[01:39] <asac> probably in combination with wrong or untested configure option
[01:39] <gnomefreak> brb im gonna reboot
[01:51] <asac> Red_Herring: yt?
[02:12] <Red_Herring> wha?
[02:12] <Red_Herring> oh
[02:12] <Red_Herring> hey asac
[02:13] <Michele> asac, u still here?
[02:16] <buttons> asac, gnomefreak cant sign on he has no internet connection
[02:17] <buttons> asac, he said that he thinks its network manager
[02:23] <asac> hmm
[02:23] <asac> no idea :)
[02:24] <asac> maybe he should turn it off then
[02:24] <asac> Red_Herring: sorry got to go to bed now
[02:24] <buttons> he's trying to connect with his laptop now
[02:25] <Red_Herring> asac: heh its ok
[02:25] <Red_Herring> asac: highlight me next time you're free
[02:27] <asac> sure tomorrow Red_Herring
[02:34] <gnomefreak> immmmmmm back!
[02:34] <gnomefreak> damn router
[02:35] <asac> yeah
[02:35] <asac> welcome
[02:35] <gnomefreak> now i can go to bed :)
[02:35] <asac> but i have to go :)
[02:35] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:35] <asac> me
[02:35] <asac> too
[02:35] <asac> ;)
[02:35] <gnomefreak> did you figure it out?
[02:35] <asac> no ... it builds if I use dpkg-buildpackage ... but it fails if i use bzr bd
[02:35] <asac> wierd
[02:35] <asac> i now dropped --disable-canvas
[02:36] <asac> as it it appears to be enabled by default for sunbird
[02:36] <asac> and use system-cairo
[02:36] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:36] <asac> no idea
[02:36] <asac> if that helps
[02:36] <gnomefreak> ill play with it
[02:36] <asac> yeah ... i am spinning agin
[02:36] <asac> will probably wait to see if it fails again
[02:53] <gnomefreak> asac: stable-fsh is failing to patch mozilla/config/autoconf.mk.in here but i will get with you in morning about it good night
[02:57] <asac> he?
[02:57] <asac> that doesn't fail for me
[02:58] <asac> it has a line ... it will just not show up if i build from within target directory
[02:58] <asac> no way
[03:01] <asac> anyway ... night
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> DarkMageZ: i considered using WAP from my router
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> but network manager doesn't support WAP afaik
[04:58] <DarkMageZ> WPA*. well, then network manager is crapware.
[04:58] <DarkMageZ> or your card doeesn't support wpa so network manager isn't showing it
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> its an intel card, week old laptop
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> probably does
[06:07] <gnomefreak> debian bug 430099
[06:07] <ubotu> Debian bug 430099 in gnokii "gnokii - FTBFS: Makefile.global: No such file or directory" [Serious,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/430099
[08:11] <hjmf_> morning
[08:11] <hjmf_> today will be another busy day for me (but I'll try to get some free time for the evening)
[08:11] <hjmf_> cu
[10:03] <asac> hjmf_: cu
[10:04] <asac> ~
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> grr
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> packaging ftl
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to bed. packaging can wait until tomorrow
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> especially packaging that doesn't like to listen to me
[10:16] <asac> night
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> night asac
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, how nswrapperplugin looking for gutsy
[10:20] <asac> looks good ... problem is that flashplugin-nonfree for amd64 is still in limbo
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ah yea
[10:25] <asac> i mean its ready ... but there is a crazy blacklist that we cannot fix on ubuntu side
[10:25] <asac> we have fix it at debian
[10:25] <asac> which will take ages
[11:43] <gnomefreak> morning
[11:46] <gnomefreak> istn flash for 64bit gnash or is there going to be a flash for 64?
[11:59] <asac> gnomefreak: there will be
[11:59] <asac> flashplugin-nonfree for 64
[12:00] <asac> in combination with nspluginwrapper
[12:00] <asac> actually there already is
[12:00] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[12:00] <asac> but its not build for us
[12:00] <asac> because its manually blocked
[12:01] <asac> i will wait another two days before kicking ass
[12:01] <gnomefreak> remind me to yell at you and than ask you what this guy wants when i wake up
 what does roger want done
[12:03] <gnomefreak> by the looks of it he wants packages released that wont be in new ubuntu version?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> asac: also with bug 65164 you attached changelog but what * is fixing the fat32 saving issue?
[12:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 65164 in firefox "MASTER Firefox 2 can't save to fat32/ntfs partitions (e.g. usb memory stick) - results in empty file" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65164
[12:04] <asac> he?
[12:05] <asac> i don't understand
[12:05] <asac> i fixed that
[12:05] <asac> and pushed the patch upstream
[12:05] <gnomefreak> oh i see it now its under the obscure firefox.cfg entry
[12:06] <asac> huh?
[12:06] <asac> ah
[12:06] <gnomefreak>  debian/patches/bz270159-lp65164-empty-file-or-duplicate-extension-on-fat32-ntfs,
[12:06] <asac> yeah ... the changelog is pretty long for this upload
[12:06] <gnomefreak> it is
[12:06] <asac> i had it lying around a long time ... and had to cherry-pick the ubuntu2 release for tribe-2
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: you should install ubufox
[12:07] <asac> manually for now
[12:07] <asac> it will be added to ubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <asac> sooner or later
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i have it installed not sure how to use it yet
[12:07] <asac> or did dist-upgrade just bring you that package automagically?
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: its nothing you can use atm
[12:07] <asac> it contains prefs only
[12:07] <gnomefreak> nope i installed from deb i built
[12:07] <asac> ah
[12:08] <asac> i will add menu entries for report a bug ... and get help online et al to it next
[12:08] <asac> so those patches can go as well
[12:12] <gnomefreak> oh did you hear from mike reguarding iceape-calendar? I saved rogers email to read later today to try and understand what he means and i have to ping persia :(
[12:12] <asac> he?
[12:12] <DarkMageZ> anyone on x64 got some spare cycles?
[12:12] <asac> ah rogers
[12:12] <asac> yes
[12:12] <asac> i have spare cycles, but not in my brain :)
[12:12] <asac> DarkMageZ: what do you want?
[12:13] <DarkMageZ> i was hoping you could build a package for me with your x64bitness :)
[12:13] <DarkMageZ> sec while i upload the source package to ftp
[12:16] <DarkMageZ> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/3644818/libvisual-plugins_0.4.0.dfsg.1.orig.tar.gz http://mirror.randumb.net/darkmagez/libvisplugnew/libvisual-plugins_0.4.0.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2.diff.gz http://mirror.randumb.net/darkmagez/libvisplugnew/libvisual-plugins_0.4.0.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2.dsc
[12:31] <bluekuja> heya asac
[12:31] <bluekuja> :)
[12:31] <bluekuja> asac: I'm working on mail-notification right now
[12:32] <bluekuja> a FTBFS for EVOVERSION
[12:32] <bluekuja> in debian/rules
[12:32] <asac> he?
[12:32] <asac> i couldn't care less for evolution ;)
[12:32] <bluekuja> lol
[12:44] <asac> bluekuja: you made the html error again :9
[12:44] <asac> hey dude you should really learn to learn ;)
[12:44] <asac> :-P
[12:44] <bluekuja> lol
[12:44] <bluekuja> I dont know
[12:44] <bluekuja> why it does that
[12:44] <bluekuja> only sometimes
[12:44] <bluekuja> happens
[12:45] <bluekuja> now I'm tagging everything
[12:45] <bluekuja> with "patch"
[12:45] <bluekuja> I've deleted that attachment
[12:47] <asac> yeah
[12:47] <asac> probably good thing :)
[12:47] <asac> e.g. its ment to be that way ;)
[12:47] <bluekuja> yup
[12:47] <bluekuja> :)
[12:48] <bluekuja> didnt know everyone is able to delete attachments
[12:48] <bluekuja> that's nice
[12:48] <asac> but actually launchpad might wanna auto-assume this from the .debdiff extension
[12:48] <bluekuja> yea
[12:48] <asac> it probably does that right for .patch and .diff files
[12:48] <asac> can you try?
[12:48] <asac> and find a work around
[12:48] <asac> feel free to open a testbug against firefox
[12:48] <asac> but remember to close it ;)
[12:49] <bluekuja> :D
[12:49] <asac> bluekuja: maybe you use paradiso if it doesn't work?
[12:49] <bluekuja> yeah, I'll try after work
[12:49] <bluekuja> :/
[12:49] <asac> cool
[12:49] <bluekuja> :)
[12:49] <bluekuja> asac: regexxer?
[12:50] <asac> is debdiff attached?
[12:50] <asac> please assign ubuntu-universe-sponsors ... so people see that you rock :)
[12:50] <bluekuja> :D
[12:51] <bluekuja> later, I gonna recheck it
[12:51] <asac> if it stays unsponsored longer then say 1 day ... i will sponsor things for you
[12:51] <asac> bluekuja: ok
[12:51] <bluekuja> great!
[12:51] <bluekuja> :)
[12:51] <bluekuja> gonna build it again
[12:51] <bluekuja> and check stuff
[12:51] <bluekuja> then I delete bad debdiffs
[12:51] <bluekuja> (html(
[12:51] <bluekuja> *)
[12:51] <asac> look at debdiff and check if every change is actually needed, wanted, documented
[12:51] <bluekuja> yup
[12:51] <bluekuja> :)
[12:51] <asac> thats the single best way to check things
[12:52] <asac> and you learn reading diffs
[12:52] <asac> (which you already can, but one can always get more experienced :))
[12:52] <asac> so you can later edit diffs directly ... read 300k diffs and see whats going on and all that
[12:52] <bluekuja> :D
[12:53] <bluekuja> asac: leaving
[12:53] <bluekuja> for that damn work
[12:53] <bluekuja> :/
[12:54] <asac> yeah
[12:54] <asac> i know ;)
[12:54] <bluekuja> :)
[12:54] <asac> i will take lunch soon
[12:54] <bluekuja> lucky you
[12:54] <bluekuja> ;)
[12:54] <bluekuja> cya later!
[12:54] <asac> cya
[01:52] <asac> lunchy munchy NOW
[02:33] <asac> re
[03:26] <gnomefreak> asac: you care if i reject googletoolbar issues
[03:34] <asac> as long as they are issues with upstream binary tarball as well ... i don't really care
[03:37] <gnomefreak> :( have you looked at some of these stupid ass bugs?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> bug 121141
[03:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121141 in firefox "pci bugs bios 81 49945000" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121141
[03:41] <asac> gnomefreak: rejected
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:42] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:02] <asac> welcome persia
[04:02] <asac> :)
[04:02] <persia> asac: Hi.
[04:02] <persia> I'm reached what I think is an unreproiducible state with firefox 2.0.0.4+2-0ubuntu3, and wondered if anyone had time to help me figure out the issue.
[04:03] <asac> most things are unreproducible :)
[04:03] <asac> in firefox
[04:03] <asac> anyway ... go ahead
[04:03] <persia> Specifically, I have a crashed session, and each time I start, I am asked to restore the session, only it doesn't.  I can create a new session, but I expect it would then just work.
[04:03] <asac> what happens if you want to restore session?
[04:04] <persia> asac: I get a blank firefox window.
[04:04] <gnomefreak> its loading the page that caused the crash?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> !info firefox feisty
[04:04] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9012 kB, installed size 28592 kB
[04:04] <persia> gnomefreak: Perhaps, but I most of my pages are LP or wiki, so it's nothing new and odd.
[04:05] <asac> persia: point is if you got the blank page once ... next time the saved session should be just the blank page
[04:05] <asac> so you probably have lost the crashed state
[04:06] <persia> asac: That would make sense, but when I close the browser (it's set to autosave the session), it closes apparently cleanly, but doesn't overwrite the session javascript, and I get the same warning when I next start the browser.
[04:06] <persia> asac: Nope, I can reproduce right now, but I can't browse (which doesn't work for me).  If I fix my problem, I can't report a bug.  That's why I'm here :)
[04:07] <asac> oh ... please backup your .mozilla directory
[04:07] <asac> so it stays somehow reproducible
[04:08] <persia> asac: At least for now.  I'm not sure how much that's my .mozilla directory, and how much is my system state.
[04:10] <asac> did you receive an upgrade recently?
[04:10] <asac> e.g. firefox upgrade today?
[04:10] <persia> asac: Yes.
[04:11] <gnomefreak> hes using ubuntu3
[04:11] <asac> ok if you close the browser ... is there still a firefox-bin running?
[04:11] <persia> gnomefreak: No - I try to track publisher runs :)
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ah :)
[04:12] <persia> asac: No firefox-bin in ps augx
[04:12] <asac> have you backed up your .mozilla directory?
[04:12] <persia> asac: Yep.
[04:12] <asac> good ... can you try if downgrading helps?
[04:13] <persia> asac: to ubuntu2?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> trackball is a mouse right?
[04:13] <asac> persia: yes
[04:13] <persia> gnomefreak: It can also be a joystick, depending on the hardware device mapping.
[04:13] <asac> persia: ubuntu3 was a little bit intrusive
[04:16] <persia> downgrading to ubuntu2 restored my session.  Do you already know what it was, or can I help find it by reupgrading to ubuntu3?
[04:17] <asac> i need to find
[04:17] <asac> thats really wierd
[04:17] <asac> but if you try a new session it works?
[04:17] <persia> asac: I haven't tried that yet.  I'll upgrade and start a new session and let you know in a bit.
[04:18] <asac> yeah ... if .mozilla is backed-up its definitly worth a try
[04:18] <asac> persia: please try once if after upgrade you have still same behaviour
[04:19] <persia> OK.
[04:20] <persia> My procedure is 1) killall firefox-bin, 2) rm -r .mozilla, 3) tar xzf mozilladir.tgz 4) upgrade, 5) firefox
[04:20] <asac> gnomefreak: are there already other bugs coming in for latest ffox upgrade?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> not that i have found yet
[04:20] <asac> persia: yeah ... that should bring you back to reproducible state (hopefully)
[04:20] <gnomefreak> i only have a handfull or 2 handfulls left
[04:20] <asac> from today?
[04:21] <persia> OK.  I can reproduce it (but I can't share my session).  Trying a new session now...
[04:21] <gnomefreak> i dont know when they are from but they are all the unconfimred/new ones
[04:22] <gnomefreak> i need to restart firefox
[04:24] <persia> No, even with a new session, it still breaks (or rather, fails to restore session).  Interestingly enough, I stll have my old sessionstore.js
[04:28] <persia> If I remove .mozilla, and start ubuntu3, to generate a new .mozilla, session state management appears to work.
[04:31] <persia> Just as a note, there's heaps of ***MEMORY-WARNING***s in the console output - supposedly because of g_thread_init()
[04:31] <asac> hmm
[04:31] <asac> whats in sessionstore.js?
[04:31] <persia> asac: The old one, or the new one?
[04:31] <asac> the old one?
[04:31] <asac> maybe compare with new one (if they are somehow similar)
[04:32] <persia> asac: About 100 pages in 6 windows, with history in the old one.  The new one is four pages in two windows (3/1).
[04:32] <asac> if you just remove sessoinstore.jsin old profile does it work again?
[04:33] <asac> btw, can you open javascript console when you have the blank window? or is all chrome gone?
[04:35] <persia> That's odd.  If I restore my .mozilla, delete sessionstore.js, and open a new instance, it looks clean.  If I generate a session, and force-crash with killall firefox-bin, it doesn't detect the crash on restart.
[04:36] <persia> asac: No, there's chrome.  It's just a normal, functional browser window with no page loaded.
[04:36] <asac> ok ... please open javascript console and see if there are errors
[04:36] <persia> On the other hand, I need guidance to open the javascript console
[04:36] <asac> Tools -> Error Console?
[04:36] <persia> asac: Thanks,.
[04:36] <asac> then you might want to press All
[04:37] <asac> in toolbar of that console
[04:37] <asac> to see all output
[04:37] <asac> is there anything?
[04:37] <persia> error output is http://pastebin.ca/601436
[04:38] <asac> persia: can you click on the link and show me the code?
[04:38] <asac> e.g. there should be a link in that error?
[04:39] <persia> asac: I'm not seeing any link, and clicking randomly on the error doesn't get me anywhere.
[04:39] <asac> ok
[04:39] <asac> let me look then
[04:42] <asac> persia: iteresting ... its no code for me at that line
[04:42] <persia> asac: Should I be looking for something locally?  Is that .mozilla/browser/content/browser.js?
[04:43] <asac> actually you usually should have a link in that error message ... but then ... lets see i will tell you where to look
[04:44] <asac> persia: (gutsy)asac@hector:/usr/lib/firefox/chrome$ unzip -l /usr/lib/firefox/chrome/browser.jar  | grep browser.js 237921  04-30-07 19:04   content/browser/browser.js
[04:44] <asac> look into that jar please
[04:44] <persia> asac: Sure.
[04:44] <asac> and see if there is actually code for you in that line
[04:44] <asac> 3890
[04:44] <gnomefreak> gdb is broken in gutsy?
[04:45] <asac> gnomefreak: not for me :)
[04:45] <asac> at least i could get a backtrace from a local granparadiso crash 40 minutes agop
[04:45] <asac> probably apport is broken again ;)I
[04:46] <gnomefreak> well apport cant get a damn retrace to save its CPU
[04:46] <persia> asac: I have url = configBundle.GetStringFromName(this.prefDomain); in the exception handler for getHomePage
[04:46] <persia> (inside gHomeButton)
[04:48] <asac> persia: oh intersting
[04:48] <asac> persia: please install ubufox package
[04:48] <asac> and tell me if things go away
[04:48] <gnomefreak> asac: i will leave you with bug 123508 i dont know java script good enough but from error it sounds like his script is off but dont know
[04:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123508 in firefox "javascript dont work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123508
[04:48] <persia> asac: It's already installed.
[04:49] <asac> did it come automatically?
[04:49] <asac> (just curious)
[04:49] <persia> asac: Yes (I install recommends by default)
[04:49] <asac> ah ok
[04:50] <asac> ok so what setting do you have as: browser.startup.homepage
[04:50] <asac> in about:config ?
[04:50] <persia> resource:/browserconfig.properties
[04:52] <asac> persia: uninstalling ubufox changes something?
[04:53] <persia> Nope.  dpkg -P ubufox resulted in the same behaviour.  Refreshing .mozilla from backup after the purge maintained the behaviour.
[04:54] <asac> persia: is the homepage setting marked as "user-defined" (e.g. bold text) ?
[04:54] <asac> e.g. i have something different there
[04:55] <persia> I claims to be the default
[04:55] <persia> s/I/It/1
[04:56] <asac> persia: what locale are you on?
[04:57] <persia> asac: Today en_US.UTF-8, but I switch locales regularly.
[04:58] <asac> persia: ok i have resource:/browserconfig.properties if i have not ubufox installed
[04:58] <asac> it should be something else if you have it installed
[04:58] <asac> can you verify that?
[04:58] <persia> asac: Odd.  Let me reinstall ubufox and see what happens.
[04:59] <persia> asac: No change.
[05:00] <persia> asac: Does perhaps the ubufox configuration setting require that there not already be a conflicting setting in the .mozilla?  That might explain why everything works for a fresh .mozilla, but not for my old messy one.
[05:00] <shirish> guys, I am on gutsy gibbon, running firefox-granparadiso, I cannot see hindi (indic fonts) on a webpage, is there something I need to check?
[05:01] <asac> persia: if about:config shows you default ... it should work
[05:01] <asac> persia: do you see ubufox in Tools-> Addons ?
[05:01] <persia> asac: Yes.  Version 0.2
[05:02] <persia> It reports it will be installed when firefox is restarted.  Restarting...
[05:02] <asac> oh
[05:02] <persia> Hmmm..  ubufox doesn't seem to be installing in the active firefox.
[05:03] <shirish>  ttf-indic-fonts are installed. any idea guys
[05:03] <asac> maybe you don't have write permissions somewhere in your .mozilla ?
[05:03] <asac> shirish: does it work in normal firefox?
[05:04] <shirish> asac: I don't have normal firefox, firefox also launches firefox-granparadiso
[05:04] <shirish> although do have another browser, lemme see
[05:05] <asac> shirish: other browser doesn't matter
[05:05] <asac> shirish: you have to close grand paradise
[05:05] <persia> asac: I don't seem to have write access to some of .mozilla/firefox/ck1ch5j9.default/extensions/, but otherwise it looks clean (and I do have write access to the folder)
[05:05] <asac> then you can start normal firefox
[05:05] <asac> persia: thats the reason
[05:06] <asac> anyway ... its a bug that browserconfig.properties is not installed (which should be fixed)
[05:06] <persia> asac: OK.  Today is the first time I've ever looked in .mozilla, so I'm wondering how it got into that state, and how one should get out of it.
[05:06] <asac> persia: what does mean you don't have write persmission?
[05:06] <asac> different owner?
[05:06] <asac> e.g. root?
[05:07] <asac> if so it might have happend that you started with sudo or something accidentially once
[05:07] <persia> asac: -r--r-----
[05:07] <asac> oh ... that looks more like harddisk error :)
[05:07] <persia> asac: No, it's all owned by me.
[05:08] <persia> Incorrect permissions looks like a harddisk error?
[05:08] <asac> yeah ... i had harddisk problems once ... and lots of file-attributes got changed
[05:08] <asac> (might be something different of course)
[05:08] <persia> Odd.  I usually see lots of things in lost+found from HD errors.
[05:08] <shirish> asac: hmm.... it shows for best performance use internet explorer, although do have indic-fonts installed, can't see some part in firefox
[05:09] <shirish> www.aajtak.com
[05:09] <shirish> the site.
[05:10] <persia> Well, anyway, it's late for me.  I'll save my backup for a week or so in case you want me to test anything.  Thanks for looking at this.
[05:10] <asac> shirish: page is a mess:
[05:10] <asac>  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
[05:10] <asac> probably it works in IE ... because IE is too smart
[05:10] <shirish> asac: ok cool :(
[05:10] <asac> persia: yeah chmod -R u+rw should fix it
[05:10] <asac> for now
[05:11] <asac> persia: would be cool if you could verify that the saved session works
[05:11] <asac> e.g. try chmor -R u+rw .mozilla
[05:11] <asac> chmod
[05:12] <shirish> asac: what are these ubufox extensions? these are for firefox 2 or firefox3? The description isn't too descriptive I'm afraid.
[05:12] <persia> asac: Nope - same behaviour
[05:12] <asac> shirish: shirish you can try to change endoding manually in that page
[05:12] <shirish> asac: how?
[05:12] <asac> persia: ok try tomorrow ... if ubuntufox is installed at least the homepage should be good
[05:12] <asac> shirish: View -> Encoding something iirc
[05:12] <shirish> ah ok
[05:13] <asac> persia: maybe it still isn't correctly installed
[05:13] <persia> asac: Interestingly enough, I still have the homepage as it was.  Anyway, another day (or perhaps I'll try again with ubuntu4)
[05:13] <asac> he?
[05:13] <shirish> asac: strange, the encoding is in iso-8859-1
[05:13] <asac> persia: if extension is installed ... homepage setting should be there
[05:13] <asac> maybe uninstall and install package to really install all
[05:13] <shirish> asac: maybe I try with other encodings as such & see if it makes a difference.
[05:13] <asac> who knows
[05:14] <persia> asac: yes.  should.  it's not.  I don't know why.
[05:14] <asac> shirish: as i said ... its iso-8859
[05:14] <asac> shirish: yes ... thats what i ment ... try if manually changing encoding helps
[05:14] <shirish> asac: ok cool
[05:15] <asac> persia: is ubufox properly installed according to Tools -> Addon now?
[05:15] <asac> persia: anyway if its late come back tomorrow :) ... i am pretty sure it has to do with your f**ked profile ;)
[05:15] <asac> (or whenever you have another minute)
[05:16] <asac> gnomefreak: tell me which it is
[05:16] <persia> asac: It wasn't (after chmod and before downgrading).  I agree it's likely my profile.  Let me know if someone else hits it, and I'd be happy to chase test cases with you.  Otherwise, I'll call it my own issue, clean up my session, and start from a fresh .mozilla (but this will take a week or two).
[05:17] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 123508
[05:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123508 in firefox "javascript dont work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123508
[05:17] <asac> persia: as you wish
[05:17] <persia> asac: Thanks again for looking through this with me.
[05:17] <asac> persia: i am pretty sure you are that ----><---- close to resolve this
[05:17] <asac> ;)
[05:18] <asac> gnomefreak: we cannot support them
[05:18] <persia> asac: You're tempting me :)  I'll come back tomorrow.
[05:18] <asac> persia: cool!
[05:18] <asac> persia: cu ... 'night
[05:19] <gnomefreak> rejected
[05:19] <gnomefreak> cu ;)
[05:19] <asac> yeah
[05:19] <asac> well said
[05:19] <asac> gnomefreak: bye
[05:21] <shirish> asac: tried a few encodings, I'm also using gcj, maybe that's part of the issue
[05:21] <asac> i doubt so
[05:22] <asac> shirish: what is your system locale?
[05:22] <shirish> english
[05:22] <asac> yeah ... switch that to something indic
[05:22] <shirish> how do I do that?
[05:22] <asac> they probably don't know how to build a website and just encode the output stream in the encoding the browser requested in
[05:23] <asac> shirish: System -> Admin -> Language Support
[05:24] <shirish> asac: am there
[05:24] <asac> look around
[05:24] <asac> you will figure out :)
[05:25] <shirish> asac: saw it figuring out, just have been in xfce, hence takes time to figure out stuff.
[05:25] <asac> oh
[05:25] <shirish> also locale is not a word I'm a familiar with, but learning :)
[05:25] <asac> i cannot really support anything else than gnome (as i have no idea)
[05:25] <asac> anyway ... once you have the language support installed you can start firefox like
[05:25] <asac> LANG=es_ES firefox
[05:26] <shirish> asac: that's ok, I'm not going to blame you if it doesn't work out or anything
[05:26] <asac> e.g. that is an example if my default language is something not spanish, but i want to start firefox in spanish
[05:26] <shirish> right, cool
[05:26] <asac> shirish: but maybe try to set your language as default
[05:26] <asac> to see if it helps
[05:26] <asac> any maybe ask on #xubuntu or something to figure out how to do it there
[05:27] <shirish> I think I know how :) there is something which indicates that.
[05:27] <asac> if your whole desktop is in hindi ... afterwards it would be a good indicator that it works :)
[05:28] <asac> if just firefox is in hindi that should be enough as well
[05:28] <shirish> asac: ok cool , it would also be a good test for localization perhaps
[05:28] <asac> right
[05:28] <shirish> :)
[05:33] <asac> shirish: you are pretty active in forums, right?
[05:34] <shirish> asac: dunno about pretty active, but active yes
[05:34] <shirish> need any help?
[05:34] <asac> good ... yeah ... I always thought about people that help to gather feedback from forum for mozilla software
[05:34] <asac> e.g. i want to ensure that I know about any glitches that might be in mozilla software
[05:35] <asac> and i think that forums are often a place where such things pop-up
[05:35] <asac> e.g. kind of forum delegates that keep there eyes open for issues that pop-up there
[05:36] <shirish> asac: you want me to look at overall, or perhaps on firefox-gutsy (that's where I would be interested in )
[05:36] <asac> doesn't really matter ... just in those forums where you are active
[05:37] <shirish> asac: ok cool, would see if there are some issues, you want me to put them in bug-reports or send it to the mailing list or what?
[05:37] <asac> for now it would be enough to raise them here ... to see if its relevant
[05:37] <shirish> ok that's cool :)
[05:37] <asac> once you get a feeling whats relevant you could directly post bugs
[05:38] <asac> but often there are already bugs that people find
[05:38] <asac> and i don't see which ones really matter
[05:38] <asac> its actually just to support us to find issues that matter
[05:38] <asac> as things easily drown in the bug-swamp we have against mozilla products
[05:39] <asac> really cool ;)
[05:39] <shirish> true, I know that & I am always unsure whether the bug i'm raising is the right one or just noise
[05:39] <shirish> :)
[05:41] <asac> i need as many eyes that filter garbage and bring important things to my attention
[05:41] <asac> as possible
[05:42] <asac> of course that needs a bit training ... so just raise everything that appears to be remotely relevant
[05:42] <asac> in the beginning
[05:42] <bluekuja> back
[05:42] <bluekuja> heya alex
[05:42] <bluekuja> :)
[05:43] <asac> bluekuja: i thought you already were at work ;)
[05:44] <bluekuja> asac: yup
[05:44] <bluekuja> asac: motu work
[05:44] <bluekuja> :)
[05:45] <shirish> have to log out see if things work
[05:52] <hjmf> hi, I'm some how around :)
[05:54] <asac> cool
[05:54] <asac> hjmf: do we have debdiffs for all plugins already?
[05:54] <asac> e.g. are there more than just the two?
[05:55] <shirish> asac: how do I find the code like LANG=es_ES firefox
[05:55] <asac> shirish: is your desktop in hindi now?
[05:55] <shirish> asac: some parts yes, also I do have access to hindi keyboard.
[05:55] <shirish> 
[05:56] <asac> ok ... open terminal
[05:56] <asac> and see what
[05:56] <asac> locale
[05:56] <asac> prints
[05:56] <asac> # locale
[05:57] <asac> what does it give you?
[05:57] <asac> e.g. as LANG
[05:57] <asac> e.g. i have
[05:57] <asac> asac@hector:~/ubuntu_bzr/ffox-2.0.0.x$ locale
[05:57] <asac> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[05:57] <asac> LANGUAGE=en_US:en
[05:57] <asac> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
[05:57] <shirish> ok cool, got it
[05:57] <asac> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
[05:57] <asac> ...
[05:57] <asac> and so on
[05:57] <asac> but if its set there
[05:57] <asac> then you don't need to set it explicitly
[05:58] <shirish> still same issue, although there is something in CLI, perhaps it might interest you
[05:58] <shirish> shirish@ubuntu:~$ LANG=hi_IN firefox
[05:58] <shirish> (firefox-bin:14249): Gtk-WARNING **: Whoever translated default:LTR did so wrongly.
[05:59] <shirish> could that also be something , the translation error its showing?
[05:59] <asac> shirish: no
[05:59] <shirish> asac: ok
[05:59] <asac> there is no language package available
[05:59] <asac> anyway
[05:59] <shirish> ok
[05:59] <asac> is your default encoding different now?
[05:59] <asac> e.g. if you look in View ?
[06:01] <shirish> asac: the default encoding didn't change, its still iso-8859-1
[06:01] <asac> hmm
[06:01] <asac> have you tried to switch default encoding? in Preferences -> Content -> Fonts & XXX -> Advanced
[06:01] <asac> ?
[06:01] <hjmf> asac: just three
[06:01] <hjmf> looking
[06:02] <asac> hjmf: which ones do we have?
[06:02] <asac> mplayer
[06:02] <asac> vlc?
[06:02] <asac> totem?
[06:02] <asac> helix
[06:02] <asac> java
[06:02] <hjmf> asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~hmontoliu?field.searchtext=Xb-Npp-xxx
[06:02] <shirish> asac: I need to log out, come back in.
[06:02] <hjmf> vlc gxine mplayer
[06:02] <hjmf> asac: ^
[06:03] <hjmf> I've been really busy this week
[06:03] <hjmf> however I guess I'll be able to have some more soon
[06:03] <asac> no problem ... i will upload them today
[06:03] <hjmf> asac: k
[06:03] <hjmf> asac:  I'll tell you when I have more
[06:03] <asac> great
[06:04] <hjmf> I'm off for an hour or so
[06:04] <asac> i think totem-mozilla-plugin should be important (though its installed by default)
[06:04] <asac> bye
[06:04] <asac> and java
[06:04] <asac> java is mui importante ;)
[06:04] <hjmf> asac: k, those will go first :)
[06:04] <hjmf> good spanish, you had a profitable stance in sevilla :)
[06:04] <hjmf> cu
[06:05] <asac> cu
[06:05] <asac> (though i doubt that that was proper spanish) :)
[06:11] <shirish> asac: Preferences -> Content -> Fonts & XXX -> Advanced shows http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8994/23602381232523812352236sm5.png
[06:11] <shirish> seems to be ok, but still you can have a look.
[06:12] <asac> shirish: in screenshot i still see iso
[06:12] <asac> as default
[06:27] <shiris1> asac: sorry for that electricity had gone out
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> evening
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> err..morning
[07:18] <asac> morning Admiral_Chicago
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> hey asac
[07:36] <asac> ok out for some time ... have to do shopping and get a way from computer a bit
[09:07] <Kmos> hi
[09:07] <Kmos> http://mv.asterisco.pt/cat.cgi?1000%20Euro%20Firefox%20Bounty
[09:10] <Kmos> bug?
[09:15] <asac> no
[09:15] <asac> the bug referenced is pretty clear
[09:15] <asac> they break rfc
[09:19] <Kmos> ah =)
[09:19] <Kmos> thx
[09:19] <asac> as so often ... ms doesn't get it right ... while everyone else does
[09:20] <asac> Kmos: its in the mail even
[09:20] <asac> yes thats it
[09:20] <asac> read the ms blog
[09:20] <asac> different from what is claimed by author the certificate is not recognized by opera 7.5
[09:21] <asac> in the end it will end up just IE accepting it
[09:22] <asac> Kmos: maybe test with opera
[09:22] <asac> and any other browser out there
[09:23] <Kmos> ok =)
[09:23] <Kmos> thx for your help
[09:24] <asac> do portuguese authorities really hang onto this?
[09:24] <asac> probably they had a ms sales droid in house
[09:24] <Kmos> hehe
[09:24] <Kmos> lol
[09:24] <asac> or just bought latest enterprise webserver kit with broken certificate
[09:25] <Kmos> ms blog, says it's a bug from mozilla
[09:25] <Kmos> lol
[09:28] <asac> of course ... but somehow comments where closed once evidence arrived that they are wrong
[09:28] <Kmos> :)
[09:29] <Kmos> yeah
[09:29] <asac> right after "opera 7.5" doesn't recognize either
[09:35] <Kmos> so it's IE bug
[09:35] <Kmos> asac: bug 80964
[09:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 80964 in mozilla-thunderbird "MASTER mozilla-thunderbird crashed [@nsNSSCertificateDB::ImportCertsFromFile]  " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80964
[09:35] <Kmos> isn't fixed at v2.0 ?
[09:37] <Kmos> asac_: bug 80964
[09:37] <Kmos> isn't fixed at v2.0 ?
[09:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 80964 in mozilla-thunderbird "MASTER mozilla-thunderbird crashed [@nsNSSCertificateDB::ImportCertsFromFile]  " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80964
[09:42] <asac_> is it reproducible?
[09:42] <asac_> Kmos: ^^ ?
[09:43] <Kmos> at v2.0 don't know
[09:43] <asac_> was it reproducible once?
[09:44] <Kmos> yeah
[09:44] <Kmos> at feisty
[09:44] <Kmos> gnomefreak has tested it too
[09:44] <Kmos> check the bug comments
[10:00] <gnomefreak> asac: it is still reproducible
[10:10] <gnomefreak> asac: alpha 6 is released
[10:14] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah i know
[10:14] <asac> it crashes
[10:14] <asac> we have a problem with our libcairo
[10:20] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:20] <gnomefreak> is anyone in here using flash?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> flashplugin-nonfree
[10:36] <gnomefreak> asac: how did your sunbird build go last night
[10:46] <gnomefreak> as also you told me to remind you about patching libpng in trunk
[10:47] <gnomefreak> i might add it back maybe it was a bug in that build
[11:06] <asac> sunbird build still fails in bzr bd
[11:06] <asac> its wierd
[11:06] <gnomefreak> i got failue on that patch outside of bzr but in bzr it fails on the autocomplete
[11:06] <gnomefreak> failure*
[11:47] <gnomefreak> asac: do we still need trunk-fsh patch in trunk?
[11:51] <asac> most likely
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ick
[11:51] <gnomefreak> fails to apply
[11:52] <gnomefreak> rejects in file browser/app/Makefile.in is what its failing
[11:52] <gnomefreak> grabbing feisty source for it to see if we had that in there or not
[11:53] <gnomefreak> we dropped a patch or 2 just cant think of names
[11:57] <asac> trunk-fsh is definitly needed
[11:57] <asac> it might need adaption
[11:58] <asac> gnomefreak: look at the reject and see if you can manually do the patch
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i will
[11:59] <asac> go to the build-tree/mozilla directory
[11:59] <asac> then force application of the patch
[11:59] <asac> by
[11:59] <asac> quilt push -f
[11:59] <asac> after that you have to resolve the conflict by looking at the .rej file and see how this can be done in the modified Makefile.in
[12:00] <asac> but show me the .rej file first :)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> i have to find it first :)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> im extracting source
[12:06] <gnomefreak> it added .rej to the makefile.in
[12:08] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[12:10] <gnomefreak> i got a test file in debian/patches :(
[12:12] <gnomefreak> unless the test file is the reject than it cant be found
[12:13] <gnomefreak> asac: here is the test file http://pastebin.mozilla.org/114359
[12:15] <asac> he?
[12:15] <asac> whats that?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> there is no .rej file
[12:15] <asac> gnomefreak: start build
[12:15] <asac> when it fails go to
[12:15] <asac> the mozilla directory
[12:15] <asac> and do like i said above
[12:16] <asac> you have to quilt push -f
[12:16] <asac> in there
[12:16] <asac> to get a .rej file
[12:16] <asac> then you can go on
[12:17] <gnomefreak> the .rej will end up in debian/patches?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> got it
[12:18] <gnomefreak> asac: .rej file http://pastebin.mozilla.org/114362
[12:19] <asac> gnomefreak: no ... you will now work in mozilla directory
[12:19] <gnomefreak> k
[12:19] <asac> debian patches will be updated once you applied it manuially
[12:19] <asac> let me look
[12:19] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[12:19] <asac> what do you see there?
[12:19] <asac> can you find that place in Makefile.in ?
[12:19] <asac> e.g. a similar place?
[12:20] <asac> e.g. search for something that you see in proximity of that changes that could not be applied
[12:20] <asac> should still be around the same line number
[12:20] <asac> (what you see in ****XX,XX*****
[12:21] <asac> maybe explain what you see in the .rej file
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yes i found on 82
[12:21] <gnomefreak> need to look for 100
[12:21] <asac> please explain what you see in .rej files
[12:21] <asac> e.g. what was changed by me (when i did that patch)
[12:22] <gnomefreak> + PROGRAM = $(MOZ_APP_NAME)-trunk$(BIN_SUFFIX) else
[12:22] <gnomefreak> + PROGRAM = $(MOZ_APP_NAME)-trunk-bin$(BIN_SUFFIX) endif
[12:22] <gnomefreak> your changes
[12:22] <asac> yeah ... and what was replaced?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> - PROGRAM = $(MOZ_APP_NAME)$(BIN_SUFFIX) else
[12:22] <gnomefreak> - PROGRAM = $(MOZ_APP_NAME)-bin$(BIN_SUFFIX) endif
[12:22] <asac> or did i just add ?
[12:22] <asac> right
[12:22] <asac> so if you look at it ... what has changed?
[12:23] <asac> any idea why i did that?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> from looks in makefile.in it looks the same
[12:23] <gnomefreak> you did that too add trunk to name
[12:23] <asac> yeah right
[12:24] <asac> i added -trunk to the programm names
[12:24] <gnomefreak> right
[12:24] <asac> so ... you should be able to do it manually now, right?
[12:24] <asac> just do it ...save the file and then show me a quilt diff
[12:24] <gnomefreak> yes but if the patch does it why should we have to?
[12:24] <asac> because they changed some line in the proximity
[12:24] <asac> that makes the patch choke
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:25] <asac> you should be able to see it
[12:25] <asac> e.g. there should be a line modified, added, removed somewhere
[12:26] <asac> patch is plain stupid ... so it just gives up and says: someone with a brain has to look ... and spits out the .rej file :)
[12:27] <gnomefreak> just save and run quilt diff
[12:27] <asac> yeah ... and show me the output :)
[12:27] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/114363
[12:27] <asac> then I show you how easy you can update the patch :)