[12:55] <bryce> kylem: done
[12:56] <kylem> thanks.
[12:56] <bryce> kylem: would you be able to sponsor an upload of the gutsy deb?
[12:58] <kylem> yeah, sure
[12:58] <bryce> much appreciated
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122958 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "Trackpad quite sluggish with default acceleration settings (dup-of: 37234)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122958
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122964 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "Enable two-finger scrolling by default (dup-of: 37234)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122964
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #37234 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "synaptics should allow runtime configuration (eg. Option SHMConfig on)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/37234
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[10:15] <tepsipakki> bryce: hey, I'm back to work this and the next week :)
[10:15] <bryce> heya tepsipakki welcome back!  :-)
[10:16] <bryce> tepsipakki: I've got this coming week (except wed which is a holiday), but then next week is the gutsy sprint in London
[10:16] <tepsipakki> it's 25C outside, so a bit hard staying inside pretending to be working
[10:16] <bryce> I have been focusing on packaging lately, but hope to focus this week on bulletproof-x
[10:16] <bryce> heh, nice
[10:18] <bryce> tepsipakki: btw, I did some research into a common error message received on -intel, and have been trying to collect them + workarounds into a table:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/IntelDriverBugs
[10:18] <tepsipakki> I've got a lot of stuff piled up, and don't know where to start :P
[10:19] <tepsipakki> bryce: ok, I'll have a look
[10:20] <bryce> also, I am going to try to get some more folks from ubuntuforum.org involved in testing:  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=238.  I hope people will post on that thread.  Guess we'll see
[10:20] <tepsipakki> hmm, you use -1 for ubuntu packages?
[10:20] <bryce> how do you mean?
[10:21] <tepsipakki> like xrandr (1:1.2.1-1)
[10:21] <bryce> no, I use -0ubuntu1
[10:21] <bryce> if I used -1, it's an error
[10:21] <tepsipakki> right :)
[10:22] <bryce> aw rats
[10:22] <tepsipakki> and nv
[10:22] <tepsipakki> :)
[10:22] <bryce> thanks, I missed that, damn
[10:22] <bryce> I'll fix tomorrow
[10:23] <bryce> also, while you were gone I decided to start a page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X.  It's pretty ugly so far, but it's a start.  I want to make it into a one-stop-shop for xorg packagers and testers
[10:24] <tepsipakki> ah, cool
[10:25] <bryce> I've also made progress on the testing stuff I mentioned before.  Still not quite to a point to show things off, but it's proving handy here locally.
[10:28] <tepsipakki> I have gutsy on my old laptop (T23), but should get a new one hopefully before gutsy is frozen (a T61 or X61s)
[10:29] <bryce> cool
[10:29] <bryce> I have a T30 for testing, but currently it's busted (doing bulletproof-x devel stuff on it)
[10:29] <tepsipakki> X61s has intel graphics, but T61 has nvidia too
[10:30] <tepsipakki> and I can't decide which one is more useful
[10:30] <bryce> mm
[10:30] <bryce> both seem to have many interesting issues
[10:31] <tepsipakki> I bet
[10:31] <tepsipakki> nvidia has more oomph, but..
[10:31] <bryce> guess it depends on how you intend to use it
[10:32] <tepsipakki> guess it'll be broken most of the time :)
[10:32] <bryce> performance vs. compatibility
[10:32] <bryce> hehe :-)
[10:32] <tepsipakki> like the current one
[10:33] <tepsipakki> there's fglrx installation instructions under nvidia on the wiki-page :)
[10:33] <bryce> oops
[10:33] <tepsipakki> I'll fix
[10:34] <bryce> cool thx
[10:46] <bryce> night
[10:48] <tepsipakki> yep, see you
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[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #43267 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Redraw problems when scrolling in GNOME" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/43267
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[01:10] <mvo> bryce: please let me know if -video-nv needs sponsoring
[01:11] <mvo> bryce: ohn, nevermind :)
[01:18] <tepsipakki> sweet, intel-2.1.0
[01:19] <tepsipakki> which should have fixed support for i830
[01:44] <jcristau> yup, it does
[01:46] <tepsipakki> I wonder if ubuntu could then dump i810 in favor of intel, the current situation is a bit messy imho
[02:00] <kylem> tepsipakki, no. there's still issues on i855 and i915
[02:03] <tepsipakki> duh
[02:04] <kylem> :\
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #123751 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (main) "removing grab support is wrong" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123751
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[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #123775 in xorg (main) "Synaptics touchpad is incorrectly recogonised as a "ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse"" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123775
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #45685 in Ubuntu "Keyboard and mouse stop working in Gnome after typing break" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45685
[06:58] <kylem> tepsipakki, bryce, fwiw, just uploaded -intel 2.1.0 merged from Debian
[06:58] <bryce> kylem: awesome
[07:01] <kylem> did someone sponsor the -nv upload?
[07:01] <jcristau> hmm, i should upload nv in debian :)
[07:01] <bryce> kylem: nope
[07:04] <bryce> should be ready to go though; not sure if anyone besides me has tested it yet, but I had no troubles with it
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[07:04] <tepsipakki> nv should be syncable once jcristau uploads it in debian ;)
[07:05] <jcristau> my uploads for anything other than intel are utterly untested
[07:05] <bryce> kylem: oh one thing that reminds me, I forgot to change -1 to -0ubuntu1
[07:05] <kylem> ah, that's easily fixed.
[07:06] <kylem> tepsipakki, i dunno if we can sync out of incoming. i'm new to archive powahz.
[07:06] <jcristau> you can. don't ask me how, though :)
[07:07] <tepsipakki> bryce: it's been done, but I don't know either
[07:07] <tepsipakki> ..how
[07:07] <jcristau> i know it has been done when i was uploading 7.2 stuff
[07:07] <tepsipakki> yes, seb128 was doing that then
[07:07] <kylem> ok cool
[07:13] <tepsipakki> ah, nv has patches, so no sync
[07:16] <jcristau> i guess i could have a look at your patches... would be easier if they were in git though (hint hint)
[07:16] <jcristau> ;)
[07:16] <tepsipakki> hehe
[07:17] <jcristau> anyway, nv should hit incoming in 5 minutes or so
[07:17] <kylem> groovy.
[07:17] <tepsipakki> there are only two of them, one upstream and the other from fedora I think
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[07:22] <tepsipakki> jcristau: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4686
[07:23] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 4686 in Driver/nVidia (open) "comb effect with nv driver (GeForce Fx 5200)" [Normal,New]  
[07:27] <kylem> bryce, ping me if youw ant me to upload -nv
[07:27] <kylem> bryce, ben just acked it
[07:27] <bryce> cool
[07:27] <bryce> yes if you could upload it, that'd be great
[07:28] <bryce> (or sync jcristau's - I'm assuming they're the same)
[07:28] <kylem> ah, want to post yours, i'll debdiff and take a look
[07:28] <tepsipakki> bryce: no, there are two patches that we have
[07:28] <bryce> kylem:  sure one sec
[07:29] <bryce> there is one thing that will differ from debian
[07:29] <kylem> jcristau, can you add me to the XSF, or should i bug gravit ylater?
[07:29] <bryce> I reduced the build-dependency for xorg-server-dev back to 1.2.0 so we could build this on Feisty
[07:30] <jcristau> kylem: i'll do it
[07:30] <kylem> jcristau, thanks.
[07:30] <bryce> jcristau, I wanted to ask about this - the changelog says this was done for xsfbs, but I was wondering how critical that was?
[07:31] <kylem> seems like we'll be backporting most of gutsy to feisty.
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[07:31] <bryce> :-/
[07:31] <jcristau> bryce: it's needed to generate the dependency on xserver-xorg-core and the xserver-xorg-video-1.0 Provides
[07:32] <bryce> certain companies need to learn to time their product releases to ours ;-)
[07:32] <jcristau> but you can hardcode that in debian/control instead in your backports
[07:32] <bryce> ok
[07:32] <kylem> bryce, no kidding.
[07:33] <kylem> i will be ranting about this in london.
[07:33] <bryce> nice
[07:35] <jcristau> kylem: you should be in pkg-xorg now (when nscd decides to let you in, that is)
[07:35] <kylem> ok, thanks.
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #123820 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia driver useEDID work-around causes worse problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123820
[08:31] <kylem> sigh.
[08:31] <kylem> bryce, you have any pending changes to mesa? i need to do an upload to get my q33 working. :/
[08:32] <bryce> nope, you're good
[08:33] <jcristau> what did you do about the libosmesa soname change btw?
[08:34] <kylem> i didn't know anything linked to it.
[08:35] <jcristau> libOSMesa.so.6 used to be in libgl1-mesa-swx11, so packages linked to it might still depend on that package
[08:36] <jcristau> (in debian, that's the case for tlprender and sppc)
[08:36] <jcristau> which means i broke them when i moved libOSMesa.so.6 in libosmesa6 in 6.5.2 (oops)
[08:37] <kylem> hm.
[08:38] <jcristau> so you might want to rebuild these packages, at least :)
[08:39] <kylem> sigh.
[08:39] <kylem> mesa is such a mess.
[08:39] <kylem> (upstream)
[08:39] <kylem> -ECHAN
[08:40] <jcristau> (that said, it's possible the soname change will be reverted upstream, which would be good)
[08:41] <kylem> someday i will fork mesa.
[08:41] <kylem> and remove vms support.
[08:41] <jcristau> heh
[08:41] <kylem> srsly.
[08:42] <bryce> heh
[08:46] <jcristau> it was a lot of fun when it also had an mia debian maintainer
[09:03] <kylem> heh
[10:22] <kylem> Subject: Accepted mesa 7.0.0-0ubuntu2 (source)
[10:22] <kylem> groovtastic.
[10:34] <bryce> cool
[10:35] <kylem> seems to be working.
[10:35] <kylem> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)