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miramanahi, looking for a gtk jabber-client. which one would you recommend?01:12
crimsun_gajim.01:13
miramanacrimsun, ok. can it discover services (need to register ICQ-transport) ?01:14
crimsun_no idea, I stopped using IM services a while ago.01:15
cellofellowcrimsun_: yes, it can. It does transports nicely.01:22
crimsun_miramana: ^01:23
cellofellowoops01:24
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miramanacellofellow, crimsun thanks, i will try it. i am using psy but it is a qt-app and i want to keep my xubuntu clean )01:27
BFTDactually cellofellow its working even after I have acpi turned back on01:27
cellofellowBFTD: must have been a hardware glitch01:27
BFTDcellofellow agreed01:27
BFTDok01:27
BFTDbbl01:27
BFTDgonna pcik up a mic01:27
cheeseboyim trying to compile mysql i get these errors http://pastebin.ca/600579 how do i fix?01:28
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cellofellowcheeseboy: ask in #xubuntu-devel, they probably know more about that stuff.01:28
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NKUMikeanyone know where I can find step by step instructions on how to install vnc on xubuntu?01:47
cellofellow!vnc01:47
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX01:47
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SlimFontIs anyone here to help?01:49
Jester45nobody here01:50
Jester45but you can ask your question01:50
ALASKAMANcan any point me in right direction on how to make a script from my shell when other users do !eggdrop it will untar the newest ver of egdrop bot01:50
Jester45ALASKAMAN, make a new file, then the first line should be #!/bin/bash then enter anything you what01:51
Jester45use the same commands/syntax as the command line01:51
Jester45then to run you do, bash file01:51
Jester45if you want to have the script run from a command like !eggdrop you run alias !eggdrop=bash /absolute/path/to/file01:52
SlimFontI have been running mirc on ubuntu for a while now and it's been working fine. Now all of a sudden the window has hidden itself. The program runs but I can't use it.01:53
Jester45ALASKAMAN, sorry run alias !eggdrop="bash /absolute/path/to/file"01:55
ALASKAMANsoi would make it using something like pico01:59
cellofellowyeah02:03
cellofellowthough pico == nano02:04
cellofellowsymlink02:04
Jester45any text editor would do fine02:06
Jester45a bash script is just a text file with the first line being "#!/bin/bash"02:06
ALASKAMANdoes it nee3d to done as root02:09
Jester45no02:09
Jester45it will have the same abilties of the user that runs it02:10
Jester45so if you need to run somthing as root you might want to have the script be run by root02:10
Jester45you have the last mimzy in 3 places /www/apache2-default/downloads/thelast mimzy/thelastmimzy.avi02:12
Jester45and02:12
Jester45 in /www/apache2-default/downloads/thelast mimzy.avi02:12
Jester45and in /www/thelast mimnzy.avi02:13
Jester45and... in /www/apache/torrentflux/html/downloads/thelastminzy/minzy.avi02:14
ALASKAMANso it would look like some like this #!/bin/bash02:14
Jester45oooo my02:14
Jester45did u put that all in here02:14
ALASKAMAN!eggdrop="bash /dowloads/eggdrop1.6.18.tar02:14
Jester45sorry02:14
Jester45no..02:15
Jester45bash /path/to/the/script02:15
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Jester45the alias !eggdrop= thing is just so you can run !eggdrop and what ever =on this side gets run02:16
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ALASKAMANsorry im just bit confused02:17
Jester45ALASKAMAN, did you make the script?02:17
ALASKAMANthat what trying to figure out how to do02:18
Jester45ok02:18
Jester45open a blank text file02:18
Jester45type #!/bin/bash02:19
Jester45then press enter02:19
Jester45now what ever your trying to do make each line a command02:19
Jester45so you said you wanted to download something02:19
Jester45you would make the 2nd line wget http://www.site.com/downloads/eggdrop.tar.gz202:20
Jester45that would download02:20
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Jester45press enter02:20
Jester45if you want to do anything else then make the new line have that02:20
Jester45keep adding lines/commands02:20
Jester45when done type exit02:21
Jester45then save02:21
Jester45then to run you type bash /path/to/script02:21
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Jester45a bash script is what you are making it is just like a windows .bat file. it just a string of diffrent commands to run. like i have one that runs apt-get update apt-get -dist-upgrade02:22
Jester45so that i stay uptodate02:22
Jester45the script runs line #1 then #2 then #3 and keeps doing that untill you kill it or it getts an error on a line or it runs out of lines02:23
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piliHow do I edit the menu items? xfce4-menueditor only shows me the "configuration" menu02:38
piliIt may be only showing my apps02:38
piliin home02:38
cellofellowedit the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications02:40
cellofellowthe menu isn't very editable02:40
pilithanx02:40
pilii want to put some things in spanish02:41
ALASKAMANhow do i make a script excaubale02:53
aroochmod +x02:55
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NKUMikeHey can someone tell me is it possible to have the cpu memory and network statistics embedded in the desktop?03:11
cellofellowwhat was that app called? based on torsmo?03:13
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maxamillionNKUMike: conky03:16
maxamillion!info conky | NKUMike03:16
ubotunkumike: conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB03:16
NKUMikeDoes it have a GUI?03:17
maxamillionNKUMike: its available in the repository, more information here: http://conky.sf.net03:17
cellofellowNKUMike: it runs as GUI, but is configured with a text file.03:18
NKUMikeAwesome I will check it out thanks for your help!03:18
cellofellowNKUMike: another thing you might like is adesklets, also in the repos and more info at adesklets.sf.net03:19
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NKUMikeis there like an uninstall command? like there is an install command ?03:22
NKUMikelike apt-get uninstal?03:22
totalwormageremowe03:22
totalwormageremove*03:22
j1mcyeah, sudo apt-get remove packagename03:24
j1mcNKUMike: that will remove the package you name, but if there are any files were also installed during that file's install process, just entering "sudo apt-get remove packagename" won't remove them.03:24
j1mcto remove unneeded files that were installed as part of another installation, you'll need to type:03:25
j1mcsudo apt-get autoremove03:25
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NKUMikealright cool03:26
maxamillionNKUMike: and if there is a configuration file belonging to a package that you would also like removed enter "sudo dpkg --purge <package>" after you remove it03:27
cellofellowNKUMike: synaptic calls that Remove Completely03:27
NKUMikeoh ok03:27
maxamillionand aptitude is nice enough to include that feature for you ;) .... "sudo aptitude purge <package>" will do the same in 1 command as the two commands: "sudo apt-get autoremove <package>" and "sudo dpkg --purge <package>" ... just food for thought ;)03:29
NKUMikealright03:29
NKUMikeIs there like a general scripting language that is should be used?03:29
cellofellowbash, python, depends on what you wanna do.03:30
NKUMikeI'm not sure I think I am moving towards linux so I figured I should learn a scripting language03:30
maxamillionNKUMike: there are many that are fully capable .... python, perl, bash, lisp, ruby, etc .... the list goes on03:30
maxamillionNKUMike: i recommend python03:31
NKUMikeAlright cool I have some experience with that03:31
maxamillionNKUMike: python comes default on almost all distros these days, even live distros (accept minimalist ones like DamnSmallLinux)03:31
NKUMikecool03:32
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maxamillionthat it is :)03:33
maxamillionNKUMike: and there are many gui toolkits that are compatible with python .... and there are many gui programs that many people use daily that are written in python03:34
maxamillionNKUMike: you ever heard of exaile?03:34
NKUMikenope03:34
viddis there a way to control how much bandwith your server will take up?03:37
maxamillionNKUMike: http://www.exaile.org/ and http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Screenshots are both written in python+pygtk (pygtk is the library that binds the gtk gui toolkit to python)03:37
NKUMikeI asked this earlier but does anyone know a tutorial on installing vnc server on xubuntu with config setup too?03:37
NKUMikeI'll check that out thanks03:38
maxamillionvidd: yeah, there are modules in apache, vsftpd, proftpd, etc that allow you to throttle bandwidth03:38
maxamillion!vnc03:38
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX03:38
maxamillionuhmm... i think that tutorial might only apply to ubuntu ... lemme check03:38
NKUMikealright03:39
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maxamillionNKUMike: nope, that one is a broad approach and should work just fine on xubuntu03:39
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NKUMikeAlright, anyone know a tutorial where I can learn to I guess set up a webserver, basically I want to be able to access this computer through the web and use it to access any harddrive on the lan, is this possible?03:40
maxamillionNKUMike: to access the hard drive you are probably going to want a ftp server or a samba server, i don't think you will need an actual web server03:41
NKUMikeCan IE handle ftp?03:42
maxamillionNKUMike: yes03:42
NKUMike!ftp03:42
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd03:42
maxamillion!ftpd03:42
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP03:42
NKUMikethanks!03:42
maxamillionNKUMike: no problem03:43
NKUMikewhats d stand for?03:43
maxamillionNKUMike: daemon03:43
NKUMikeoh ok03:43
NKUMikeany favorites?03:43
viddNKUMike, for the evil empires web browser to handle ftp...you point it to ftp:// instead of http://03:43
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maxamillionNKUMike: if you don't want it password protected, i recommend vsftpd ... pretty easy setup and its fast, but if you want some login authentication then proftpd is really good03:44
NKUMikeha ok03:44
viddNKUMike, my prefered FTP server is proftpd03:44
NKUMikealright thanks03:44
maxamillionNKUMike: for more reading on daemons (if you were interested), go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computer_software%2903:44
Lectuswhat's the name of the module on Xubuntu that does automounting of the drives (including ntfs)?03:44
maxamillionLectus: well it would be HAL, but i can't remember if xubuntu automounts ntfs by default ... i think we leave that module out by default because its a little resource hungry03:45
NKUMikeDefinitely, if I set up an ftp server will there be some way to access the hd's on the other boxes on my lan?03:45
maxamillion!hal | Lectus03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
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maxamillionbah!03:46
maxamillion!hald | Lectus03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
maxamillionwhat@@#!^????03:46
maxamillion-.-;03:46
posingaspopularoh hey there j1mc. i didn't see you come in03:46
j1mchey posingaspopular03:46
j1mci auto-load this channel03:46
j1mcmaxamillion: haha03:47
posingaspopularnah i just joined03:47
maxamillionNKUMike: yes, any machine that you enter in "ftp://x.x.x.x" where the "x.x.x.x" is the ip address of the machine into the web browser you should be able to access the files you have configured to be allowed to be viewed remotely03:47
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Lectusyes, it does automounting for NTFS. I'm just asking the name of it because I'm installing another distribution on another PC that requires installing each package one by one. So I'd like to add automounting to it.03:47
maxamillionLectus: well it should be hal (or hald), stands for "hardware abstraction layer" ... it does all the nifty "on the fly" hardware detection03:48
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NKUMikemaxamillion: So if I set up samba and 'map' the other drives on the Lan all of those will be accessible when connecting to this xubuntu machine using ftp?03:48
maxamillionNKUMike: whoa whoa ... you are crossing concept03:49
maxamillionconcepts*03:49
NKUMikewhat do u mean03:49
NKUMikeyou*03:49
maxamillionNKUMike: you either need samba _OR_ and ftp server03:49
maxamillionNKUMike: if you setup samba and configure it to share directories, then you can just map that machine as a remote drive on any other machine on the net and you can browse the files that way03:50
NKUMikeI only want to expose this computer because its good ol secure linux and the rest are windows but I still want access to their filesystems while away, does that make sense?03:51
maxamillionNKUMike: on windows, open "my computer" and i think its under "tools" and then "map network drive", that's where you would enter the information about the xubuntu machine that has a samba server running on it03:51
maxamillionNKUMike: ohhhhh, you want to map those machines to xubuntu and then browse all that from ftp remotely .... gotchya03:51
NKUMikeyeah!03:51
NKUMikebrb03:52
maxamillionNKUMike: then you are going to need something like fusesmb or create a static mount point for those samba shares so that your ftp server can share them as though they are local files03:52
maxamillionNKUMike: k03:52
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NKUMikeAlright back sorry about that, so what is a static mount point? Is that like mapping a network driver?04:03
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maxamillionNKUMike: well, basically you will make a directory inside /mnt/ and call it whatever you want like "/mnt/nku_windows_box/" and then use that as the mount point for the samba share, then configure your ftp server to share that directory04:05
NKUMikeAlright gotcha, I think!04:05
maxamillionk, well i unfortunately must go ... but i am around here alot so if you need help later on and you catch me, just ask04:06
NKUMikeAlright thanks for all your help!04:06
maxamillionanytime :)04:06
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Jester45how can i check to see if my mic works?04:17
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miramanahi, anyone to help? i dedicated a partition to the PV. parted says it is 239GB, pvdisplay -- 216GB. i just can't figure out where are 23Gs?04:30
j1mcmiramana: what is PV?04:31
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miramanaj1mc, = Physical Volume (LVM)04:32
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j1mcmiramana: can you try running "df -m" and then pasting the results at www.pastebin.ca04:33
j1mcmiramana: are you in the installation now, or you're just starting the install?04:33
miramanaj1mc, no, i am writing this from the installed xubuntu box04:34
miramanaj1mc, http://www.pastebin.ca/60077804:36
j1mcthx04:36
j1mcis that a pasting of df -m?04:38
miramanaj1mc, no, it is the combined output from parted and pvdisplay. why df -m?04:41
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j1mci just wanted to see the full output of that... i'm not sure if it's any better or worse, but it shows total partition size and partition usage in megabytes04:41
miramanaj1mc, ok, http://www.pastebin.ca/60078404:43
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magic_ninjaman i don't see why i can't join winehq, i'm always banned and i never talk on there04:45
j1mchmmm... /me is stumped.04:46
j1mcmiramana: sorry, but i personnaly can't explain what is causing the difference.04:51
j1mcyou may want to try asking in #ubuntu, as they have more people in there.04:51
j1mcthe issue is the same whether you're using ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu...04:51
j1mci'm sorry i can't be of more help.04:51
miramanaj1mc, ok? thanks anyway04:52
j1mcyw04:52
Jester45anyone know how to get my mic/headphones to work. my speakers work but not the phones or mic04:58
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Jester45!jack05:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:00
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cvzeroanyone out there have lithuim 2?05:12
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malnilionAny of you folk happen to know if it's possible to add a network path to amarok's collection?05:15
malnilionThe, erm, gui seems a bit restrictrive on that point.05:15
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felicianoHi... I'm trying to decide which file system try... I read some articles and I guess XFS is a good alternative... What do you think??05:22
Jester45i depends on what size the files are and your hardware05:22
Jester45resierfsv4 is good and so is jfs and xfs05:23
felicianoJester45... is for a home PC05:23
Jester45well05:24
felicianodid you try all of them??? what do you think is best for a normal user??05:24
Jester45i like reiser05:24
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cheeseboywhere is trash folder?05:24
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malnilionReiser is pretty sweet05:25
Jester45cheeseboy, .trash05:25
felicianoAnd what about xfs??? did you try this??? Jester45 malnilion05:25
malnilionCan't say that I have05:26
Jester45yea... but if your dont umount cleanly you have to format your drive05:26
malnilionEek05:27
felicianoJester45... what???05:27
Jester45ext3's journal is stored on the harddrive. xfs's is in ram. so its faster but when it breaks its broken05:28
Jester45no lost+found05:28
Jester45#alsa05:29
Jester45oops05:29
felicianojajajaja05:29
felicianoJester45... and Raiser??05:30
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Jester45its good for smaller files05:31
Jester45i have it on my /05:31
Jester45but /home is ext305:31
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felicianommm05:34
felicianoI'm still unsure05:35
Jester45i would go with reiser05:37
Jester45for / and ext3 as /home or where ever you might store movies or other big files05:37
BFTDreiser is a cool guy05:39
BFTDI suggest reiser for old HDD's05:39
BFTDslow ones05:39
felicianoJester45... when you say "big files" how much MBs are we talking about??05:39
BFTD4000 MBs05:39
felicianothen I dont need ext3... I never use files that big..05:40
felicianoas far I use 800 Mbs files05:40
BFTDyou use windows on the same system?05:40
BFTDyeah05:40
BFTDuse ext305:40
felicianowhy?05:41
BFTDand reiser for your root directory05:41
BFTDis more support05:41
BFTDfor the /home partition05:41
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felicianoI understand05:42
BizFatalhas anyone had an issue installing from the live cd where the installation windows become little blank boxes, so you cant see whats going on?05:42
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felicianoBizFatal... I'm sorry I just install from the alternative cd05:45
Jester45BizFatal, is the cpu at 100%05:46
felicianoBFTD just one last question05:46
felicianoIf I wanna let a patiton for share files betwen windows and xubuntu... which one is better??? fat32 or NTFS05:47
Jester45depends on the version of windows05:48
felicianowin2k05:49
Jester45i would do fat3205:49
CatoptromancyI use FAT32 works perfectly05:49
felicianothanks a lot05:49
Jester45or fat1605:49
Catoptromancyheh05:49
CatoptromancyFA32 allows bigger file system05:50
Catoptromancyand probably more stable as well05:50
BFTDwth05:50
BFTDyeah not fat1605:50
j1mcg'nite, all05:50
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BizFatalIm trying again and will let you know about the cpu, it shouldn't be though, installed regular ubuntu no problem05:50
BizFatalim downloading te alternative cd now lol05:51
Jester45ok05:51
Jester45the alt is better05:51
BizFatali use ext2 to share with windows, you can install the ext2 file system into windows05:53
felicianoBizFatal... which windows??05:54
BizFatalxp05:54
felicianoI use win2k... I just want it from emergencys05:54
BizFatalNT/XP/2k/2k3 according to the site05:54
felicianoIn fact... I didnt have windows right now... but I'm thinking about playing Counter Striker :p05:55
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Ramonhello.. :) I'm having a weird issue here.. the OS is showing me the following issue after I installed it:http://rafb.net/p/3s67Xd81.html05:56
RamonBios is 199805:56
BizFatalfeliciano- www.fs-driver.org if you wanna take a look05:58
felicianoI'm trying to format a USB pendrive with gparted... and this ask me for a disklabel... and offert msdos like default... which one I have to pick??05:59
Jester45!paste06:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:00
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kioskxubuntu rocks yall07:10
kioskanyone awake?07:10
k-osbarely07:11
kiosklol07:11
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felicianohi... I install ubuntu but i forgot asign /home to a partiton... and I wanna have this in a different partiton than / .... Exist any way to change the /home partition now??? after install ubuntu???07:46
felicianoXubuntu, sorry07:46
TheSheepfeliciano: yes07:48
felicianohow??07:48
TheSheepfeliciano: you need to mount that partition somewhere else, copy its contents as root, unmount it, then add to fstab as /home07:48
TheSheepfeliciano: I can walk you through this07:49
felicianoTheSheep, I try to do this with gparted... but Its doesnt work07:49
felicianoTheSheep please explain me step by step please07:50
felicianoTheSheep, the partition is created and well mount07:50
TheSheepfeliciano: where did you mount it?07:50
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felicianoTheSheep, /media/hda707:51
felicianoext307:52
TheSheepfeliciano: ok, open a terminal07:52
felicianosudo thunar?07:52
TheSheepno, accessories->terminal07:52
felicianoready07:52
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TheSheepfeliciano: what is your user name?07:52
felicianofeliciano07:52
feliciano:D07:52
k-ossomeone who can tell me how I replace grub with lilo?07:53
TheSheeptype 'sudo -rp /home/feliciano /media/hda7/'07:53
TheSheepk-os: install lilo, configure it in /etc/lilo.conf and then run 'lilo' as root07:53
felicianoillegal option -rp07:53
TheSheepfeliciano: sorry07:53
TheSheeptype 'sudo cp -rp /home/feliciano /media/hda7/'07:53
TheSheepit's too early for me07:54
felicianoready07:54
k-osTheSheep: yeah, then how do I configure it?07:54
TheSheepk-os: man lilo07:54
feliciano!lilo07:54
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.07:54
TheSheepfeliciano: type 'gksu mousepad /etc/fstab'07:55
k-osgrub gives me invalid hard drive sector07:55
TheSheepfeliciano: an editor will pop up07:55
TheSheepk-os: that usuallu means that you're using a large hard disk in an old computer07:55
felicianoyepis... but The partition is still mount07:55
TheSheepfeliciano: don't worry about that for now07:55
k-osTheSheep: 60 gb on a laptop from last year?07:56
felicianoTheSheep ok... ready07:56
TheSheepk-os: then it may be something else :)07:56
TheSheepfeliciano: add a line at the end:07:56
k-ossomething grub related I guess07:56
felicianoTheSheep change the hda7 to home??07:56
TheSheepfeliciano: ah, there is a line for hda707:56
TheSheepfeliciano: yes, change the mount point to /home07:57
felicianoTheSheep yep... do you want to see my fstab file?? i can put it in  a pastebin07:57
TheSheepfeliciano: lets see it07:57
felicianoTheSheep look this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28299/07:59
TheSheepfeliciano: ok, just change that '/media/hda7' to '/home'08:00
felicianook08:00
felicianoTheSheep... it's all??08:01
TheSheepfeliciano: now we need to remove the old home and mount the new one08:01
TheSheepfeliciano: unmount that /dev/hda708:01
felicianoTheSheep I try to unmount it by gparted... but doesnt work08:01
felicianoTheSheep Is there some comand?08:02
TheSheepfeliciano: umount /dev/hda708:02
felicianounmount /media/hda7?08:02
TheSheepfeliciano: you can't unmount it if you have any program running in it08:03
felicianoI try without sudo and get this: umount: /media/hda7 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)08:03
felicianoTheSheep but I try with sudo and I guess work08:04
TheSheepsudo umount /dev/hda708:04
felicianobut the icon still in the desktop08:04
TheSheepfeliciano: type 'mount' to see if it's mounted08:04
felicianoTheSheep is well umount08:04
feliciano:D08:04
felicianoTheSheep how I going to delete the original /home??08:05
TheSheepsudo mv /home /oldhome && sudo mkdir /home && sudo mount -a08:05
felicianoTheSheep I did that...08:06
TheSheepany messages?08:06
felicianoTheSheep nop08:06
TheSheeptype 'mount' and see if /home is mounted08:07
feliciano/dev/hda7 on /home type ext3 (rw)08:07
feliciano:D08:07
TheSheepgreat, now relog and you can delete /oldhome08:07
felicianomkdir delete directories?08:08
TheSheepfeliciano: mkdir makes them08:08
TheSheepfeliciano: mv renames08:08
TheSheepfeliciano: yuor old home is renamed to oldhome08:08
TheSheepfeliciano: you must relog before deleting it08:08
felicianoTheSheep but we create a new /home with 'mkdir /home' can you explainme that?? why we created a new /home if we have /home at the partition??08:09
felicianoTheSheep not necesary08:10
felicianoTheSheep I understand now08:10
felicianoTheSheep :D08:10
felicianoTheSheep relog just close my session?? or need to reboot??08:11
TheSheepjust log out and login again08:11
TheSheepno need to reboot08:11
felicianook... I will Back08:11
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felicianoI'm here08:13
felicianoTheSheep... Delete the /oldhome???08:13
TheSheepfeliciano: yes, or you may want to ait a little and check if everything is ok with your new home08:14
felicianoTheSheep... "7G Volumen" still is at desktop08:14
TheSheepwait*08:14
TheSheepfeliciano: but 'mount' says that /home is mounted?08:15
felicianoTheSheep... yes... Is only the volumen icon... but if I double click it send me to home08:15
TheSheepfunny08:16
felicianoyepis08:16
nzkGah! Why are all my fonts screwed up08:16
TheSheep!language | nzk08:16
ubotunzk: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:16
nzkThat's...not a swear08:16
nzkBut ok08:16
TheSheepnzk: what did you do when that happened?08:16
nzkInstalled xubuntu.08:17
nzkAll fonts in firefox and in xchat are gigantic08:17
TheSheep!dpi08:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:17
TheSheephmm..08:17
felicianonkz... you understand spanish?? at my blog I give the solution08:17
nzk:|08:18
nzkWho is nkz08:18
felicianoTheSheep... then you didnt know how solve the icon trouble???08:18
TheSheepfeliciano: no, sorry08:19
felicianonzk sorry.. little mistake08:19
nzkI don't speak Spanish08:19
nzkSorry08:19
felicianoTheSheep I'm going to try rebooting08:19
felicianonzk... wait... i can send you a file with the solution08:19
nzkOk08:20
felicianoTheSheep Thanks about the help08:21
TheSheepnp08:22
felicianonzk, are you there??08:23
nzkYes08:23
felicianonzk, accept the file08:24
nzkWhat file08:24
felicianonzk, mmmm08:25
nzkI didn't get a prompt to accept/deny anything08:25
felicianonzk .. I'm try to send you..08:25
felicianonzk .. I guess I'm going to put it in a pastebin08:25
nzkYeah, that would be better08:26
felicianonzk .. Ready... I paste the entire file... but I jump the step number 4... You can use it like you want... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28300/08:29
felicianonzk .. I hope this was the same problem... good luck08:29
felicianobye guys08:29
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ceil420anyone have any ideas why my cursors won't work? :(10:50
nzkWhat do you mean?10:55
ceil420well i just designed a cursor set, chose it in the mouse settings, and restarted X, and i'm still stuck with the ugly default cursors ;x10:56
ceil420it's not just mine, either; most of the cursors i download don't work10:56
ceil420i just spent hours designing 37 cursors and learning to use xcursorgen ><10:57
ceil420when i select the cursors, btw, the preview works; i can see my cursors in the window10:57
nzkHmm11:01
nzkPerhaps there is some package for custom cursors11:01
nzkI don't know, though11:01
ceil420there's a few that i have that do work, tho -_-11:03
ceil420incidentally, you know if there's plans to make it so we don't have to restart X to refresh the cursors? :x11:03
TheSheepceil420: maybe you have hardware cursor forced in your xorg?11:03
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ceil420"cursor" is only mentioned three times, and nowhere that looks like it should always be using a default one :x11:05
ceil420Section "ServerLayout" >> InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" is the only one that looks weird to me11:06
ceil420Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "cursor" and Option "Type" "cursor" are the other two11:07
TheSheepceil420: that's not it11:07
ceil420wait11:07
ceil420Section "ServerLayout"11:07
ceil420Identifier"Default Layout"11:07
ceil420what about that?11:07
ceil420:o11:07
TheSheepceil420: try adding 'Option "swcursor"' to your device section11:07
TheSheepumm11:07
TheSheepto the section where you set the vga driver11:08
ceil420with the video card?11:08
TheSheepyes11:08
ceil420puh; just remembered i'm lookin' at xorg.conf read-only style ;x11:09
ceil420hmm11:10
ceil420when i change the cursor, the change is immediate in some of them in Firefox (prolly related to Firefox not obeying theme "rules" :x)11:11
ceil420about half of them work in Firefox, half don't11:11
ceil420mine's one of the ones that doesn't ;x11:11
ceil420am i missing a config file or something? cos i just ran the config files for the .png's through xcursorgen; i didn't write an index.theme or anything11:12
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gerrocomputer doesn't have internet access and was wondering where I could stick an apt-get install list then shutdown command in start up scripts so I could move just the box part to other room for ethernet11:15
gerrotrying to do some kernel updates before getting some wireless drivers working :)11:15
ceil420hmm... i'm gonna try copyin' my cursors to /usr/share/icons11:15
gerroceil420: oooh cursors?11:16
gerroceil420: they dont' have many choices by default, where you get yours? they neat?11:16
ceil420ones that don't work atm ;x i get the suspicion it's cos they're in ~/11:16
ceil420gerro, www.xfce-look.org has some; i made a set that i'm trying to test11:16
gerromost likely file permissions11:16
ceil420zomg11:20
ceil420:D11:20
ceil420took me a bit to actually move 'em to /usr/share (dno why, but i always forget about the -r switch when moving folders :x that confused me for a minute)11:20
ceil420but they work now \o/11:20
ceil420thanks for your time, people that responded o/11:21
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ceil420k, Now i'm just confused :x11:24
ceil420my "watch" cursor worked as X was loading, but once it loads, i have *mostly* default cursors again11:24
ceil420the xterm cursor (the "typing" one) is mine, but all the rest i've seen are default :(11:24
ceil420ah, and "hand" is mine too11:25
ceil420i know i changed all the pointers and resize cursors, though :(11:25
gerrohm11:25
gerroso you copied default theme and edited certain cursor files in it to your own11:26
gerroseems like what I did to the tango icon theme I have11:26
ceil420no, i made it from scratch11:26
gerroah okay11:26
ceil420and i made 37 cursors :x most of what i left out was the crap like "gumby" and "sailboat"11:26
ceil420(there are 77 total)11:27
ceil420and srsly, Xubuntu needs to stop stickin' me in Workspace 2 when i start X ;x11:28
ceil420weirdness ;x when i re-size xchat's nicklist bar, i get my cursor; but when i re-size xchat itself, it's default ><11:28
ceil420it seems that my cursors (except the main one, "arrow") work inside apps, but i get the default ones *around* the apps ;x11:30
ceil420is this a known problem, or am i suffering more than most people that design their own cursors? ><11:31
TheSheepceil420: you might try asking at #xfce11:41
ceil420i'll do it some other time; there's a crazy operator in there right now, threatening to ban people for suggesting programs ;x11:43
ceil420i'll keep that in mind tho, thanks11:44
gerrosuggesting programs??11:48
ceil420oh, someone asked what a good torrent program is, and AngryOp used a bot to send him to some "recommendedprograms" site or something, but me and a few other people suggested our personal favourites11:54
ceil420then AngryOp set +o on himself and said "one more suggestion and you're out"11:54
ceil420-_-11:54
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predaeusyup ElAngelo seems to be a bit trigger happy, kicks people he/she knows for fun too.12:04
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craigbass1976Where can I find system requirements for Xub feisty02:48
TheSheepcraigbass1976: there are no minimal requirements -- it will just work slower and slower on wekaer systems02:53
zialsI think there is a bit of info on that in the main site... http://www.xubuntu.org/get02:54
craigbass1976Ok.  My grandmother-in -law just had a video card bork on her 98 box.  I don't have any, but I have a 98 box with integrated video.  The only such boxes I've put linux on were headless02:54
craigbass1976Ran spiffily02:54
craigbass1976zials, Oh, duh.  If I had only scrolled down past the download sites....  You can slap me now.02:55
totalwormagehurrah02:55
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xubuntuHi, I have a problem to install xubuntu 7.04 on my Ubuntu 6.10 system(hdb). The problem is gparted can't make new ext3 file system on existed ext3 partition(ubuntu 6.10) while installation.03:58
Pumpernickelbug 10725904:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725904:00
xubuntuxubuntu installation program thanks04:00
xubuntuthanks04:00
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hyper_chlocal guru needed ;)06:15
Jester45??06:16
maxamillionhyper_ch: i'm no guru ... but i can try and help06:16
hyper_chhihi maxamillion and Jester45 :)06:17
hyper_chhow do I put the output of a cron to /dev/null instead that an email will be sent?06:17
Jester45hi06:17
Jester45>> /dev/null?06:17
Jester45i think you put that at the end of the script06:18
hyper_chJester45: does that work with php?    5 12 * * * php -f /path/to/script > /dev/null ?06:18
Jester45idk06:18
Jester45i think its bash only06:18
Jester45i didnt know cron could run php06:18
hyper_chJester45: sure it can ;)06:19
maxamillionJester45: cron can run "hello world" if you tell it to06:20
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hyper_chcron is cool :)06:21
hyper_chwhoever wrote cron is a genious :)06:21
Jester45 /scripts/cron.php >/dev/null 2>&106:21
grazieA bit off topic, but I'd like to hear folks experiences on adsl routers. Been having internet connection problems for ages and now believe that certainly part of the problem has been my dodgy netgear dg834 router06:23
hyper_chwhy that 2>&1 ?06:23
Jester45because06:24
Jester45grazie, mine works fine06:24
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hyper_chJester45: "because" is not a suitable answer :)06:24
Jester45because thats what i copy/pasted06:25
grazieCheers Jester45 ... a netgear dg834? I believe the usa firmware is different06:25
Jester45grazie, a netopia+dlink erb321006:26
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Jester45hi cellofellow06:26
cellofellowI think I just figured out how to get NoteEdit to playback to ALSA: use Timidity as a daemon.06:26
cellofellowhello06:26
cellofellowjust a little epiphany. A good notation editor is the only thing keeping my mom on Windows.06:27
cellofellowdownloading and installing both programs now.06:27
Jester45cellofellow, i got a mic now for teamspeak... but i cant get it to work and i think its broken because it doesnt work on any of my other computers06:27
cellofellowwhat kind of mic? plugs into the soundcard or USB?06:28
Jester45card06:28
Jester45i can only get 1 output to work06:28
cellofellowdo you have a stereo with mic or aux input?06:28
Jester45umm06:28
Jester45i got a audigy SE06:28
cellofellowdoes it have the large 1/4" jack or the smaller one?06:29
cellofellowI really don't know brands.06:29
cellofellowI used to have a mic that worked iffy. Now I can't find it.06:29
cellofellowMoved one too many times.06:29
cellofellow(It was good for soundbites in Audacity, nothing more.)06:29
Jester45its the stanard headphone plug for the mic06:30
Jester45i guess 1/406:30
cellofellowMost computer I've seen have the smaller 1/8" jack, the one that's the same as most headphones.06:30
cellofellowNot the big one.06:31
Jester45ok its the 1/8 then06:31
cellofellow(Our digital piano has the 1/4 though. Very annoying, have to use an adapter.)06:31
cellofellowWell, plug it in to the Mic input on the soundcard, and open the Mixer and turn up the mic volume.06:31
Jester45i did06:31
cellofellow:(06:32
Jester45also i cant get output from anything other than the front output06:32
cellofellowI still say try it with a stereo.06:32
cellofellowyou have messed up soundcard06:32
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cellofellowbbl06:32
Jester45it never bothered me b4 i allways used my sub to play things06:32
Jester45try with a stereo?06:33
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Jester45hi BFTD06:36
BFTDhi Jester4506:36
Jester45my mic is broke06:37
Jester45i tried on other computers06:37
BFTD!!06:37
BFTDoh no!06:37
BFTDwell06:37
BFTDgo get another one06:37
Jester45and the headphones dont work when i plug them into my ipod06:37
Jester45im06:38
BFTDthey're pretty cheap, like $1006:38
cellofellowhe06:39
cellofellowI hate getting expensive stuff cause it's so sad when it breaks, and I hate getting cheap stuff cause it breaks so easy. What to do?06:40
BFTDthe thing is, whenever I get a more expensive kind of headsets, they never seem to work with linux or they need some drivers to be used, so stick with some cheap ones06:41
cellofellowI would think that most headsets would have pretty much the same features and could use a standard driver or something.06:41
BFTDwell the cheap to md range ones do06:42
BFTDmid-range06:42
cellofellowPeople always complain about video and wifi not working in linux, but the hardware I have the most trouble with is sound.06:44
BFTDyou too eh?06:44
cellofellowMIDI is a real pain.06:45
maxamillioncellofellow: midi = uber pain06:45
cellofellowI have a USB-to-MIDI cable, and I found some "firmware" for it but I have no idea what to do with it.06:45
cellofellowand for some reason I keep getting "Invalid Device" errors with OpenAL, which means most of my favorite games don't have sound.06:46
cellofellowSuperTux, OpenArena, Warzone2100.06:46
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BFTDwhat is MIDI?06:46
maxamillionBFTD: sound format06:46
BFTDHouston is the third largest city in the USA?06:47
cellofellowMusical Instrument Digital Interface or something like that. It's for connecting digital instruments like synths.06:47
cellofellowA standard language.06:47
cellofellowmaxamillion: for some reason Boise is listed instead of SLC. Salt Lake is much bigger.06:47
maxamillionBFTD: sure is, something like 4.1 million in population and by actual geographical size, i know its top 506:47
maxamillioncellofellow: yeah ... i dun really understand it06:48
BFTDoh06:48
BFTDas metropolis06:48
cellofellowUsually there is only one city per timezone anyway. I normally click Denver, but now I click Boise.06:48
BFTDSan Jose is about 3 Million in Metropolis size, but morel like 1.2 million in actually city size06:48
cellofellowSalt Lake City itself is tiny. The whole Salt Lake County is the metro though.06:49
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cellofellow(Which is why Mayor Rocky Anderson is such a hoot.)06:49
cellofellowHe has no real power. He thinks he can play with the big boys like the mayors of New York.06:50
cellofellowok, politics is OT, sorry.06:50
Jester45cellofellow, you better be :)06:50
BFTDhttp://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html06:51
ceil420there's a #politics, but that's generally filled with crazy conspiracy theorists :)06:51
BFTDyeah06:52
cellofellowoh, hyh.06:52
BFTDSan Jose has grown by 250,000 in the last 2 years!06:52
cellofellowThose guys look in all the wrong places.06:52
cellofellowwowsers06:52
cellofellowSan Jose in what, um, place? I can think of two or thee.06:52
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BFTDSan Jose is the city where I live, its in the bay area in California06:53
BFTDSecond Biggest City in california06:53
cellofellowok, that San Jose.06:54
BFTD9th largest in the USA06:54
ceil420t's the only one i know :x06:54
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ceil420wait, isn't there a san jose in costa rica? :o06:54
BFTDceil420 yes06:54
ceil420heh t's the capital06:54
ceil420google ftw06:54
cellofellowI see San Diego and Los Angeles above San Jose in that Top 50 Cities list.06:55
BFTDoops06:55
cellofellowSo, Third Biggest City in CA.06:55
BFTD10th largest in the USA06:55
BFTDand third largest in Cali06:55
BFTDI knew something was wrong06:55
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keoni86i am trying to install and i am runing across this problem were after i select install xubnutu it loads and then my screen starts flashing between orange and purple. any ideas?07:17
maxamillionkeoni86: just need to configure your X server07:18
maxamillionkeoni86: hit ctrl+alt+f1 and that will bring you to a command line login, login and then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and follow the guide from there, once you are done type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" and you should be able to login07:19
keoni86still flashing07:40
keoni86as far as i know the install  never got anywhere07:40
cellofellowEver since I messed with sudoers I haven't been able to get X stuff to work with sudo.07:40
keoni86because right after the loading bar got to the right side of the screen, screeen went blank than switched to flashing between orange and purple/blue07:41
cellofellowkeoni86: what video card?07:41
keoni86nvidia07:42
cellofellowyou have the drivers?07:42
keoni86not on a cd or anything07:42
keoni86this is straight from the install cd07:42
cellofellowsudo aptitude install nvidia-glx linux-generic07:42
cellofellowthat will get you them07:42
keoni86this a comon problem for people with nvidia cards?07:44
cellofellowno07:44
cellofellowbut it could be fixable by this07:44
maxamillionkeoni86: i've had that issue on certain fx5000 series nvidia cards07:44
keoni865500?07:44
maxamillionkeoni86: but mx440 and mx4000 work fine, as well as all geforce 6000 series and 7000 series i have tried07:45
maxamillionkeoni86: yeah, i think i had a problem with that one ... but nvidia-glx fixed it07:45
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maxamillion:)07:45
maxamillioncellofellow: i just have alot of hardware here at work07:45
keoni86now how do i know if this is finished here cause it looks like the console is not scrolling07:45
cellofellowWhat can I do to /etc/sudouers so that gksu works again?07:45
cellofellowkeoni86: huh?07:46
keoni86it seems i dont see past the bottom of the screen unless i switch consoles and back07:47
keoni86max: it cant fetch the pack. i never configured network or anything07:47
cellofellowwe can work that out07:48
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keoni86i do i set default route07:50
keoni86how do i rather07:50
maxamillionkeoni86: ah, do you have a dhcp server or you need a static ip?07:50
cellofellowset the gateway I think07:50
keoni86static07:50
keoni86i set the ip07:51
keoni86no i need to set gateway and ns07:51
maxamillionkeoni86: so you have an ip but not a gateway and ns?07:51
cellofellow/etc/resolve.conf for setting DNS nameserver.07:51
keoni86well i just did sudo ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.1.307:51
hyper__chhow does one create a torrent tracker?07:53
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cellofellowdunno07:54
cellofellowdownload one for starters07:54
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pilican i make qt applications look better under xfce?07:59
maxamillionpili: yes, you probably need to install a qt theme chooser07:59
pilido you know the name of the package?08:00
cellofellownope. Let me know when you find it.08:01
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pilii think what is needed is a gtk theme chooser08:04
pilinot qt08:04
maxamillionpili: xfce handles gtk themes in the settings manager .... you are tying to make qt applications look better right?08:05
pilithat's it08:05
cellofellowGTK can be turned into QT with this special engine, but not the other way around.08:05
maxamillionpili: then i don't understand why you need a gtk theme chooser08:06
pilicna't qt be turnet into a gtk look?08:06
pilican't08:06
piliit is just that i'm used to some kde apps, and i installed them into my mother's pc, but they look awful08:07
maxamillionpili: yes, kde/qt generally looks like garbage compared to gtk08:07
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maxamillionnightglider28: welcome08:08
nightglider28maxamillion: ty08:08
piliso is xfce using gtk and metacity?08:08
maxamillionpili: god no08:08
maxamillionpili: xfce is xfce ... it is written in gtk (which is a gui toolkit) and uses xfwm408:08
pilii still don't understand how to change the appearance08:08
maxamillionpili: its in the settings manager08:09
piliok08:09
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piliand themes? I was sarching at xfce look, and there are 2 kinds, gtk2 themes and xfce themes. Is it the same? Will I be able to use both kinds? or are xfce themes more lightweight?08:12
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cellofellowI know of GTK and XFWM themes. Try xfce-look.org08:13
maxamillionpili: xfce themes are for xfwm4 (the window borders) and gtk themes are the appearance of gtk applications (what a program looks like inside the window)08:13
cellofellowGTK themes come in two parts: the engine and the theme (a .gtkrc-2.0 file usually)08:13
cellofellowGTK: the buttons, the scrollbars, the menus, the checkboxes, etc.08:14
cellofellowI like the Murrine engine, and I keep switching themes.08:14
piliok08:14
pilithanx08:14
viddcellofellow, idont understand how that works.....08:15
viddwhat is the difference between theme engines....08:15
cellofellowIt's like games. The Engine is code, and the Data (the .gtkrc-2.0 file) is what makes it look good.08:15
viddand can one theme work wit two engines, or does it need to be ported?>08:16
maxamillionvidd: as long as compatibility is maintained then the theme can work with multiple engines08:17
maxamillionvidd: just like how you can technically put gnome themes on xfce if you extract the correct peices08:17
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tidriongot a new ATI Radeon 925009:08
tidrionhow do I get it working?09:09
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maxamillion!ati | tidrion09:10
ubotutidrion: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:10
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dsl745ummm09:14
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Jester45i somehow messed with my users09:15
Jester45and removed them all (i think)09:15
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Jester45because when i try to boot gdm errors saying gdm user not found09:16
Jester45so could anyone give me a bit of help09:16
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Jester45idk what to do im booted into DSL because xubuntu willnot connect to the internet for some reason09:17
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Jester45rulent,09:24
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Jester45anyone?09:30
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judgenanyone tried xubuntu with beryl in vmware?09:31
hyper_chjudgen: vmware doesn't support 3d09:33
judgenyes it does09:36
judgenvmware6 runs many xp in virtual machine with full 3d support09:36
judgenmany games in xp i ment09:36
judgeni just want to do it the other way around... using linux and a linux guest system with 3d09:37
hyper_chbut not vmware server09:37
judgeni saw some movie on youtube where they did it09:39
PumpernickelIt accelerates D3D, not OpenGL.  You won't benefit from it if the guest OS isn't Win2k or XP.09:46
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Re|ent|essI cant install xubuntu09:48
zialsO.o ?09:48
Re|ent|essD:09:48
Re|ent|essThe install wont let me continue09:48
zialswhere does it stop?09:49
Re|ent|esspicking a languange09:49
Re|ent|essits doesnt show the languanges09:50
Re|ent|essand the forword button is grey09:50
zialshave you checked the CD for defects?09:50
Re|ent|essYep09:51
Re|ent|essit worked just fine09:51
Re|ent|essi een downloaded a new iso and burned it09:51
Re|ent|essand it did the same thign09:51
zialsthe problem always comes?09:51
zialsdo you have 192 mb of ram or higher?09:51
Re|ent|ess25609:53
Re|ent|essYep09:54
zialsmhmm... well, if you liked what you saw and want to install it, then you can always burn the alternate cd09:54
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Re|ent|essi can do what?09:55
zialsyou can download and burn the alternate CD09:56
hyper_chthe alternate cd is normally better at installing the OS09:57
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Re|ent|esscna i order the alturnate CD?10:01
zialsyou can, or simply download it, it should be at the same place you got the iso for your current CD10:04
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MaybellineAnyone know if the RT2500 drivers are being worked on for Gutsy?10:34
maxamillionMaybelline: what's the RT2500 driver?10:36
Maybellinefor wireless cards10:36
Maybellineworks (without Network Manager) in Feisty, but it's broken in Gutsy10:37
gnomefreakMaybelline: they are/were being worked on for gutsy10:38
Maybellinegnomefreak: Cool.  All I can find are bug reports -- no mention of anyone working on it.10:39
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Lizard_hello11:05
Lizard_i have some problem with my xubuntu and xfce. I want change my gtk theme but when I try do it i have bug: gtk-theme-switch2: Sorry, "/home/user/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" does not appear to be a valid theme directory or tarball!11:06
Lizard_. I use gtk-theme-switch2. What i can do?11:06
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Lizard_!!!11:16
Lizard_someone is here?11:16
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judgenwhere in gnome did i change the metacity settings?12:16

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