[12:14] <WaxyFresh> dwidmann: what site?
[12:14] <dwidmann> umm, I forget the URL, let me check
[12:14] <dwidmann> off hand I think it's alsa-project.org though
[12:15] <WaxyFresh> im sure il find it
[12:15] <NickPresta> Does Kiba-Dock run slow as heck for anyone else?
[12:18] <admin___> quien habla espaol?
[12:18] <NickPresta> !es | admin___
[12:18] <ubotu> admin___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:19] <crash_> right
[12:20] <crash_> so next time I try to recomile the kernel without any help, someone stop me.
[12:20] <WaxyFresh> dwidmann: im confused:ttp://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ATI#matrix its the card all the way at the bottom but theres no x's or check marks or anything
[12:20] <NickPresta> crash_, why did you compile a new kernel?
[12:20] <WaxyFresh> http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ATI#matrix
[12:20] <crash_> ... I delcline to answer that question, on the basis that I would feel incredibly foolish :P
[12:21] <WaxyFresh> NickPresta: why does anyone compile a new kernel? FUN!!!!
[12:21] <crash_> I did it because the Wiki told me to
[12:21] <NickPresta> WaxyFresh, that's a given ;)
[12:21] <crash_> and now Ive lost my Kubuntu monitor settings control panel .
[12:21] <crash_> All just to make a screensaver work
[12:22] <crash_> aaaaaand electricsheep still doesnt work
[12:22] <dec_> anyone know how to transfer files from one computer to another on the same network?
[12:23] <admin___> quien habla espaol?
[12:23] <NickPresta> !es | admin___
[12:23] <ubotu> admin___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:23] <crash_> in fact, NONE of the (GL) screen savers work
[12:23] <vzduch> la 4a vez..
[12:24] <avalon> What would cause a dvd burner to stop reading/writing in linux? My BIOS sees it as there and working, but it doesn't work at all under linux anymore, even though it sees it.
[12:26] <dec_> anyone know how to transfer files from one computer to another on the same network?
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> dec_: samba (otherwise known as Windows File Sharing under Windows)
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> or elese NFS, FTP, SCP
[12:26] <dec_> both machines are ubuntu and i use krdc
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> you can use samba from Ubuntu to Ubuntu too
[12:27] <dec_> will try thank you
[12:27] <jgonzalez_> dec_, you may try scp
[12:29] <Minataku> There's also sshfs via FUSE
[12:30] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[12:30] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:32] <hygvg4_> quien habla espaol?
[12:33] <NickPresta> !es | hygvg4_
[12:33] <ubotu> hygvg4_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:34] <vzduch> will he ever learn it?
[12:34] <NickPresta> i doubt it
[12:40] <orbisvicis> how can i remove the region code of a dvd (or set to 0) ?
[12:40] <Minataku> orbisvicis: Get a scanning electron microscope and a micron-tip pointy thing
[12:41] <Minataku> Find where on the disc the region code is stored and make the change
[12:41] <orbisvicis> Minataku, ok..
[12:41] <orbisvicis> you beat me to it .. the 'then what'
[12:41] <Minataku> Heehee
[12:41] <Minataku> Seriously, though, that's not possible
[12:42] <orbisvicis> lol
[12:42] <orbisvicis> wait
[12:42] <Minataku> I've heard libdvdcss can play out-of-region
[12:42] <Minataku> But I don't know
[12:42] <orbisvicis> you mean the micron tip pointy thing, or in actuality
[12:42] <Minataku> The only actual solution I know of is to import a DVD player from said region
[12:43] <Minataku> Or find one that's region-free
[12:43] <orbisvicis> problem is im going to be in another region for some time
[12:43] <xaaax> can anyone tell me the exact dialog that appears when you apply a new resolution/refresh rate to your monitor through system settings?
[12:43] <Minataku> The issue with a region-free DVD player is that they're considered illegal and also some discs will refuse to play on them
[12:44] <vzduch> you mean, they're considered illegal in the US..
[12:45] <Minataku> I think the EU has laws against it now, too
[12:45] <Minataku> I know for sure at least France does
[12:45] <vzduch> not that I know of
[12:45] <Minataku> Figures, the one American thing they decide to copy is the friggin' DMCA
[12:45] <BluesKaj> vzduch, I'm not sure but i 've heard k9copy strips regional codes off dvds
[12:46] <vzduch> what _is_ illegal in Europe is circumventing a copy protection mechanism for the purpose of copying the content of a medium
[12:46] <BluesKaj> as does dvdshrink , if you run it under wine
[12:46] <orbisvicis> hm, ill give it a shot
[12:47] <Minataku> vzduch: Yeah, here any circumvention is illegal
[12:47] <orbisvicis> kaffeine uses lsdvd to tell what region code the dvd has
[12:47] <vzduch> BluesKaj: I guess it does because it compresses/converts the video.. the format is not the same after processing w/ k9copy
[12:47] <Minataku> You'd think all the money those greedy f*cks spend bribing and buying off politicians would be better kept in their pockets
[12:47] <BluesKaj> yes, the sane goes for dvdshrink
[12:47] <BluesKaj> same
[12:47] <orbisvicis> i use lxdvdrip to copy dvds, but it preserves the same region code
[12:48] <vzduch> but here no one tells you what equipment to use to view a DVD.. I heard that it is de-facto illegal to view a DVD on the computer in the US
[12:48] <Minataku> Unless you use an "Approved" DVD playing piece of software
[12:48] <orbisvicis> .. unless using windows
[12:48] <BluesKaj> no, only if you copy it
[12:49] <orbisvicis> isnt vlc technically illegal in us b/c it didnt purchase a css key
[12:49] <BluesKaj> MS has bowed to the demands of hollywood , therefore ppl think it's illegal on some pcs
[12:49] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Not if the MPAA can help it
[12:50] <Minataku> They went apefeces over Prince trying to give away HIS OWN MUSIC on a free CD
[12:50] <Minataku> They in this case being whatever music group
[12:50] <orbisvicis> anyway: after mplexing a vob lxdvdrip uses dvdauthor to reauthor it: does dvd set regions ?
[12:51] <orbisvicis> *dvdauthor
[12:51] <Minataku> They're all the same to me, a bunch of greedy bastards
[12:51] <vzduch> which actually reminds me of an old Amiga game.. anyone know Lotus Turbo Challenge 2?
[12:51] <Minataku> Name is familiar
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yeah  Minataku, hence the poor sales of vista media pcs...ppl have found that they can't copy their digital home movies to disk due to the DRM
[12:51] <Minataku> From PC, though, not Amiga
[12:52] <vzduch> I had disassembled the soundtrack using a tracker software, and there was a sample in the track, low-volume, saying, 'You will not copy this game' *gg*
[12:52] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Well, that and even your average computer user knows Vista is a sucky piece of crap
[12:52] <Minataku> vzduch: Heehee
[12:52] <BluesKaj> well they sure do now :)
[12:52] <jhutchins> Minataku: Please be more creative with your expletives.
[12:52] <Minataku> BluesKaj: The bad thing is that the average people are going out of the pan and into the fire by buying Macs
[12:53] <Minataku> Instead of just proprietary software, now they have proprietary HARDWARE, too
[12:53] <BluesKaj> macs too eh ?
[12:53] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Apple is a part of the music industry now
[12:53] <Minataku> Of course Macs too
[12:54] <Minataku> And with Apple TV or whatever, they move into the rest of the entertainment industry
[12:54] <BluesKaj> yeah , i know the probs Itunes creates on windows pcs
[12:54] <Minataku> Very, very, very bad things the future holds, with both Microsoft and their evil, but still-currently-lesser "twin", Apple
[12:55] <jhutchins> Differently evil.
[12:55] <Minataku> Nah, same way
[12:55] <Minataku> You could swap Steve Jobs and Steve Ballmer
[12:55] <Minataku> The business model would stay the same
[12:55] <jhutchins> Microsoft never sued anybody for look-and-feel.
[12:55] <Minataku> "PUT MONEY IN MY POCKET"
[12:56] <Minataku> jhutchins: True, yes, Apple is far, far, far more evil
[12:56] <Minataku> They were a lot better when they didn't have Jobs
[12:56] <Minataku> But he's the frickin' cult leader
[12:56] <jhutchins> Apple never vowed to cut off anybody's air.
[12:56] <Minataku> Without him there's no hypnosis
[12:56] <jhutchins> So differently evil.
[12:56] <Minataku> The sheep don't have a herder without Steve Jobs
[12:57] <Minataku> Makes me sick
[12:57] <Minataku> Can you believe they actively supported and defended him even after he knowingly screwed the company by backdating stock options?
[12:57] <jhutchins> Ja, vell, contribute to Linux so it becomes a better, more viable alternative.  Just griping doesn't do any good - and is pretty off-topic here.
[12:58] <Minataku> He could transfer every last cent Apple has into an offshore account and they'd still support him
[12:58] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[12:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:58] <jhutchins> Point made, fun had, let's get back to supporting kubuntu.
[12:58] <jhutchins> Me, I'm off to feed the horses.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hehe Minataku , ya ought to run for office or find a podium somewhere :)
[12:58] <Minataku> Nobody needs help
[12:59] <Minataku> BluesKaj: I'm too intelligent for that
[12:59] <BluesKaj> okaaayy
[12:59] <Minataku> Smart people never get anywhere in politics
[12:59] <Minataku> Smart people can think for themselves, remember :P
[01:00] <Minataku> j/k
[01:00] <Tm_T> sure?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> dunno, kinda think that Dick Cheney is an evil genius
[01:00] <Minataku> There are some smart people in politics
[01:00] <Minataku> Some with actual ideals and ethics
[01:00] <Minataku> It's just the rest that give them all a bad name XD
[01:01] <Tm_T> dear citizens
[01:01] <davor> hi, how can I install defaults configs for asterisk.
[01:01] <ubuntu_> stop
[01:01] <Minataku> neon: Default configs usually come with the programs
[01:02] <Minataku> That's what makes them default >.>
[01:02] <Minataku> BTW, sorry all for the tirade X3
[01:02] <neon> Minataku: I don't know but asterisk doesnt come with the configs.
[01:02] <neon> root@David-laptop:/etc/asterisk# ls
[01:02] <neon> rate_engine.conf
[01:03] <Minataku> Try ls -la
[01:03] <Minataku> Or ls -a
[01:03] <Minataku> I usually do -la when I want to see everything but -a is all you need
[01:03] <neon> Minataku: i have only rate-engine.conf
[01:03] <neon> :(
[01:04] <Minataku> That's weird
[01:04] <neon> Minataku: can you Install asterisk and send me your default asterik config...
[01:04] <neon> in a tarball
[01:04] <Minataku> Try that package configuration thing that apt has
[01:04] <Minataku> neon: Heh... no
[01:04] <Minataku> No offense, but no ;3
[01:04] <neon> 
[01:04] <neon> Minataku: ok, thanks
[01:04] <Minataku> !configure
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <Minataku> Hm
[01:05] <Minataku> What's the command to configure a package through apt?
[01:05] <Minataku> What, everyone comes back just to yell at me for being offtopic?
[01:05] <Minataku> Psh... and you tell ME to "get back to supporting kubuntu"
[01:06] <Minataku> neon: I don't use Kubuntu, I just help with non-kubuntu-specific issues
[01:06] <admin___> the linux is lose
[01:07] <admin___> pura mierda es linux
[01:07] <Minataku> mneptok: Good work
[01:08] <Minataku> mneptok: You should take the "n" out of your nickname
[01:08] <Minataku> Then you can be MENTOK
[01:08] <Minataku> THE MINDTAKER
[01:08] <Minataku> Ooooo-EEEEE-oooooo
[01:08] <Minataku> X3
[01:08] <mneptok> "mentok" has an "n" dude
[01:08] <Minataku> Well
[01:08] <Minataku> I wasn't thinking
[01:08] <Minataku> So there
[01:08] <Minataku> Ha ha
[01:08] <Minataku> Accident.
[01:09] <mneptok> "accident" has an "n" too
[01:11] <Minataku> mneptok: You get that thing I sent ya?
[01:11] <Minataku> mneptok: Ever seen "Harvey Birdman Attourney at Law"?
[01:11] <Minataku> If not then nevermind
[01:12] <crube> I cant believe I cant find a way to get my tilt-wheel buttons to work in Ubuntu :S I've tried a dozen guides with no luck.
[01:15] <mneptok> Minataku: huh?
[01:15] <mneptok> sent where?
[01:15] <Minataku> mneptok: It was a joke
[01:15] <clash> spanish
[01:15] <Minataku> Rather, a reference to the show "Harvey Birdman Attourney at Law"
[01:15] <mneptok> !es > clash
[01:15] <Minataku> Never mind
[01:19] <wheeler> can anyone help me get write permissions setup on kubuntu 6.06
[01:19] <wheeler> on an external drive
[01:19] <wheeler> sooo lost
[01:21] <ibin> 
[01:21] <madahnono> SALUT LES PD
[01:21] <madahnono> ca va les pd?
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> ils repondent pas :(
[01:22] <madahnono> ils preferent faire l'amour
[01:22] <madahnono> ...
[01:22] <Minataku> !fr
[01:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:22] <madahnono> 1
[01:22] <madahnono> 1
[01:22] <madahnono> 1
[01:22] <madahnono> 11
[01:22] <madahnono> 1
[01:22] <madahnono> vos gueules
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 213453433
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 14
[01:22] <madahnono> parlez francais
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 11
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 7
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 1
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 1
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 1
[01:22] <Minataku> !ops
[01:22] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 1
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[01:22] <Minataku> Got some troublemakers
[01:22] <trotrozoulie> 1
[01:22] <madahnono> ouais
[01:22] <madahnono> on est des troublemakers
[01:23] <Minataku> Nice work
[01:30] <renzo01> hallo to all!
[01:31] <renzo01> #leave
[01:33] <dwidmann> Hmm, well that experiment flopped.
[01:34] <Minataku> ?
[01:34] <vzduch> what experiment?
[01:34] <dwidmann> Decided to give this a go just to see if I could get it to work - http://peertech.org/docs/JanusVMLinuxKvpncUserGuide
[01:34] <Minataku> Ah
[01:34] <dwidmann> failed, and miserably I might add
[01:35] <Minataku> Total crash?
[01:35] <dwidmann> It left me without networking until I sudo apt-get install --reinstall netbase 'd
[01:35] <Minataku> :O
[01:35] <Minataku> It trashed that much?
[01:36] <dwidmann> Whether it did or it did with my help is a good question, but yes, damage was done. I'm just lucky I knew how to redo my networkign ...
[01:37] <dwidmann> I can only imagine how distraught someone who didn't know would be after something like that
[01:37] <Minataku> They'd be in here blaming us
[01:37] <Minataku> XD
[01:38] <dwidmann> hahaha, probably
[01:39] <ubuntu_> where are the videos?
[01:39] <dwidmann> on the upside of my afternoon I've got my vmware-server back up and running again though. That's always good
[01:57] <fitoria> do i have to close kde to install a nvidea driver?
[01:59] <BluesKaj> fitoria, no
[02:00] <fitoria> ok
[02:00] <fitoria> look
[02:01] <fitoria> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-6106.html
[02:01] <fitoria> i need this driver
[02:01] <vzduch> fitoria: why do you need such an old driver?
[02:02] <fitoria> excuse me
[02:02] <fitoria> that wasnt
[02:03] <fitoria> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.11 .html
[02:03] <fitoria> this one
[02:03] <vzduch> fitoria: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new
[02:03] <fitoria> well i did this
[02:03] <fitoria> i downloaded the .run file
[02:04] <fitoria> in that page
[02:04] <fitoria> so
[02:04] <fitoria> it says sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[02:04] <fitoria> do i do that?
[02:05] <fitoria> i dont have any driver installed
[02:06] <fitoria> vzduch what do i do?
[02:06] <vzduch> the above cmd installs the 97.55
[02:07] <fitoria> well
[02:07] <fitoria> what do i type
[02:08] <vzduch> if that's not enough and you _really_ need to install the 100.14 --> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop --> change to the dir where you downloaded the .run file to --> execute by typing ./NVIDIA-[whateverFollowsHere] .run (you can tab-complete the name) --> follow instructions --> after installation: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:09] <vzduch> reading an eventually existing howto on the Nvidia page or forum can't hurt either :)
[02:10] <xivulon> Hi all, anybody knwos how to disable suspend/hibernate for all users from command line?
[02:25] <alan_> hello
[02:26] <mshelby> hello, has anyone gotten a linksys wireless adapter (usb)  to work in 7.04?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[02:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <mshelby> ubotu, yeah I know... at this point I think I've read everything written on the subject!
[02:36] <johnp> Hi all, i'm using Ubuntu CE, It's default desktop is gnome and I preferred kde so i installed kubuntu-desktop.  when it opens there are no system icons anywhere.  everything seems to work ok but no icons, just text descriptions, not even the start button.
[02:39] <eliayarg> l
[02:42] <doctorow> How do I change the default font size for chrome, menus, etc, in KDE?
[02:44] <doctorow> Does anyone know how to change the font-size for menus, etc, in KDE?
[02:46] <Jahooty> how do i unstick adept in feisty?
[02:46] <Jahooty> i had to shut it off while it was trying to commit changes
[02:46] <vzduch> !aptfix
[02:46] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:48] <Jahooty> thanks
[02:50] <marko_> does kubuntu support this grafik card (or how it's spelled) int.Ati X300
[02:52] <vzduch> !hcl
[02:52] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:52] <Jahooty> ati would have the driver
[02:52] <Jahooty> i wouuld imagine
[02:52] <crazy_bus> One of the tracks of a cd I'm trying to rip comes up with this error; ''''The process for the audiocd protocol died unexpectedly''''.  What should I do?
[02:54] <gemidjy> anyone has idea on why Booting/starting of the processes looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/XGhsBh34.html (for everything after "starting acpi")
[02:55] <marko_> Jahooty, do you know the command in shell that list's all the hardware (or someting like that i forgot.. :S)
[02:55] <gemidjy> marko_: sorry for that version, accidental
[02:55] <marko_> no problem
[02:55] <marko_> :>
[02:55] <marko_> Jahooty, do you know the command in shell that list's all the hardware (or someting like that i forgot.. :S)
[02:55] <gemidjy> :)
[02:55] <Minataku> gemidjy: Terminal capability discrepancy
[02:56] <Jahooty> i don't
[02:56] <marko_> oh ok
[02:56] <marko_> i must buy a new pc and I'm thinking of buying a set...
[02:56] <gemidjy> Minataku: idea on how to solve it?
[02:56] <Jahooty> hey, my wireless card started working after in installed kwifimanager, but now when i scan for networks it wont see anything
[02:56] <Minataku> gemidjy: None at all >.<
[02:56] <gemidjy> :/
[02:57] <Minataku> Sorry :(
[02:57] <gemidjy> np
[02:57] <gemidjy> will post on some forum
[02:58] <vzduch> marko_: lspci should be one possibility
[02:58] <marko_> oh right
[02:58] <marko_> thank's vzduch
[02:59] <paknefia> hi
[02:59] <gemidjy> night
[03:01] <Jahooty> why would my wireless card work last night but not now
[03:02] <Minataku> Jahooty: Did you forget to pay it?
[03:02] <vzduch> kernel module not loaded?
[03:02] <Jahooty> no
[03:02] <vzduch> anyway, I'm off to bed.. good night
[03:02] <Jahooty> my internet connection is fine, but my wireless card won't get an ip adress from the router
[03:03] <Jahooty> when i scan for networks it says it finds none, even though the router is right here next to it
[03:03] <Minataku> Is the router actually transmitting?
[03:03] <Jahooty> i'm using kwifimanager to manage it
[03:03] <Jahooty> should be
[03:03] <Jahooty> i can find no reason it would not be
[03:04] <Minataku> Check it anyway
[03:08] <godlkwrth> anyone have an idea why remote x11 apps are running at about 1/5 the speed
[03:19] <Tm_T> godlkwrth: hum, remote, you mean ssh -X ?
[03:21] <godlkwrth> not with ssh even
[03:21] <godlkwrth> with a listening X server, over tcp
[03:21] <godlkwrth> it only seems to happen in feisty
[03:21] <godlkwrth> and only recently
[03:23] <Minataku> Did you recently upgrade the local machine?
[03:23] <Minataku> Or the remote machine?
[03:23] <godlkwrth> yeah I recently upgraded the local machine (feisty)
[03:23] <godlkwrth> maybe I need to reboot?
[03:23] <Minataku> Is that when it starteD?
[03:23] <Minataku> *started
[03:23] <sam_> how can i add a local directory as a repository for adept?
[03:23] <godlkwrth> not sure
[03:23] <Minataku> Hm
[03:23] <Minataku> Something may not be playing right
[03:53] <Desmo> moin ist noch jemand hier
[03:53] <Minataku> !de
[03:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:06] <ubuntu> hello, I am considering installing kubuntu on a windows machine but I have some questions regarding disk partitioning.
[04:08] <ubuntu> I would like to set aside 10 gigs or so for the install, but I can't remember if creating a new table will delete what's already on the hdd
[04:09] <_Iamda> hmmm...so did I ,,,so I checked the part for 100% partition of HD to Kubuntu...Windows 2000 is history...
[04:10] <ubuntu> That's exactly what I don't want to happen
[04:11] <_Iamda> $200.00 for MS windows vista
[04:12] <_Iamda> , when Kubuntu is free,Hmmm
[04:12] <ubuntu> I just want to play around with the guts of the os, have xp normally
[04:18] <bokan> hello?
[04:21] <crash_> !webcam
[04:21] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:26] <ubuntu> anyone around?
[04:26] <ubuntu> I want to give a Kubuntu install a 10 gig or so partition but I don't want to lose any of my existing windows stuff.  I have two hard drives that have enough space, but both only have a single partition.  It seems like I should create a new partition table but when I do I'm pretty sure it will destroy any data on the existing single partition of the drive.  Any advice?
[04:35] <mandrake> hola
[04:38] <TeraDyne_> !es | mandrake
[04:38] <ubotu> mandrake: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:40] <paknefia> ubuntu: did you have a partition magic in your windows? i thing this software can be used to make partition your hard drives.
[04:59] <uslacker> Hope you folks can assist me with something
[04:59] <zhaokuiwei> 
[04:59] <uslacker> I have a Dell Lledatitude C840 with Kubuntu Feisty fwn instal
[05:00] <uslacker> (wow - did I type that?)  - installed
[05:01] <uslacker> works pretty well.  One issue I have is when I close and reopen the laptop lid, the video is a complete mess
[05:01] <uslacker> everything is shifted by a half screen; the resolution is off, etc
[05:01] <Dr_willis> let me guess.. ATI video card...
[05:02] <uslacker> I can reset it by patiently finding the DIsplay System settings and resetting the resolution
[05:02] <uslacker> I believe it  is ATi, yes
[05:03] <uslacker> well - let me check that - Display settings says the hardware is nv
[05:03] <Dr_willis> ATI has long had issues with the suspend stuff sadly. They are better now  then they used to be.. but.. well..
[05:03] <Dr_willis> nv is the nvidia opensourced drivers. If you have a real nvidia card. you may want to isntall the nvidia-glx package.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> !find restricted-manager
[05:04] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager
[05:04] <Dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[05:04] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[05:04] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[05:04] <Dr_willis> Install the restricted-manager package and run the 'restricted-manager' tool and it 'should' allow you to use the nvida  driver.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> How Minataku
[05:05] <uslacker> I can try that
[05:05] <uslacker> I'll be back to report my success
[05:05] <Dr_willis> :0
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Fireworks going off.. driving my dog crazy
[05:07] <draik> Dr_willis: Lucky you. We can't have fireworks around here that are meant to be airborne :(
[05:07] <Dr_willis> draik,  go let off some TNT on the ground then! :)
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Man this guy in Ubuntu is still trying to get his samba stuff going. :)
[05:09] <draik> I remember doing that once out at a beach. Put a 5-gallon water bottle in the sand with just about 3 inches (below the neck) showing off the sand. Threw an M80 and ran. Sweet earth wave!
[05:09] <Dr_willis> There gets to be a point.. where you just need to go read a book. :)
[05:09] <uslacker> Dr_willis there is a nvisa-glx and nvidia-glx-new  shall I be brave?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> uslacker,  depends on your video card.
[05:09] <draik> uslacker: What is your video card.
[05:09] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Since you dident even know it was an nvidia card.. :) heh.. i doubt if you know the chipset..
[05:09] <Dr_willis> May as well try the nvidia-new -
[05:10] <draik> well, how about lspci | grep -i nvidia
[05:10] <zhaokuiwei> 
[05:10] <draik> uslacker: type       lspci | grep -i nvidia
[05:10] <uslacker> looking at the dell site it says I have a GeForce 440 Go
[05:11] <uslacker> draik here are the results: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go]  (rev a3)
[05:11] <andres_> IM trying to use adept manager but when it loads is giving me the following error :You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:11] <draik> uslacker: You need the legacy
[05:11] <uslacker> ok
[05:12] <Dr_willis> andres_,  close anyother adept/package related programs perhaps? if none are loaded. there may be a stale lock file about.
[05:12] <draik> uslacker: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:12] <morph_> hailz
[05:12] <jhutchins> !aptfix
[05:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:12] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Amazingly enough
[05:12] <Minataku> None here
[05:12] <Minataku> There were some on the weekend
[05:13] <morph_> has anyone installed GDL here?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> and GDL is?
[05:14] <draik> Gosh Darn Linux?
[05:14] <TrueFX> hi guys
[05:14] <morph_> like IDL but free
[05:14] <Ramon> hello :)... Im having some issues with Rinetd, its stopping automatically... I already uninstalled it and reinstalled it .. and the same thing happens... It lasts for less than five minutes and then it goes down
[05:14] <TrueFX> is there a way to delete words to the right?
[05:14] <morph_> http://gnudatalanguage.sourceforge.net/
[05:14] <TrueFX> normally ctrl+w deltes to left
[05:16] <draik> I think its safe to assume that if we don't know what GDL is/stands for, we haven't installed it.
[05:16] <morph_> yeah
[05:17] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:17] <Dr_willis> and the winner of the 'most useless answer to a question is....'
[05:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:17] <uslacker> Dr_Willis and draik  I used the apt-get to attempt install and was told there was a 404 error downloading
[05:17] <Dr_willis> heh.  ok a url..
[05:17] <uslacker> Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse nvidia-glx-legacy 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.28
[05:17] <uslacker>   404 Not Found
[05:17] <draik> My bet is on medibuntu
[05:17] <draik> whoa
[05:17] <Dr_willis> uslacker,  web site or server is down.. odd.. try again later perhaps. or change the sources/sites in your apt sources.
[05:18] <draik> I was wrong about this one.
[05:18] <draik> Could be that the file is not there
[05:18] <Dr_willis> uslacker,  OR try a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' THEN try instllng the nvidia-glx stuff
[05:18] <morph_> anyone using superkaramba with a osx type taskbar?
[05:19] <jhutchins> TrueFX: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_86.html#SEC93
[05:20] <ardchoille> uslacker: I think that sources entry is bad
[05:23] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Did you hear what I'm getting my hands on?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  a girlfriend? :)
[05:23] <ardchoille> uslacker: Yeah, that entry is bad. the version on that repo is 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.29
[05:23] <Minataku> I wish
[05:23] <Minataku> XD
[05:23] <Minataku> A Personal DECstation 5000/33 and a Tadpole SPARCbook 3GX
[05:23] <Minataku> :D
[05:23] <uslacker> ardchoille - how so?
[05:24] <ardchoille> uslacker: sudo apt-get update   and then try again
[05:24] <ardchoille> uslacker: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[05:24] <jhutchins> :v nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:24] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Cool, eh? :3
[05:24] <jhutchins> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:24] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB
[05:25] <ardchoille> yeah, 29 is the latest
[05:25] <jhutchins> !easysources
[05:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:26] <draik> jhutchins: How about just adding the line to the sources list?
[05:26] <draik> Or a simple replacement
[05:26] <draik> uslacker: Do you know how to access your sources.list?
[05:26] <jhutchins> draik: Anything you want.
[05:27] <uslacker> draik /etc/apt/source.list (or some such)
[05:27] <jhutchins> It looks to me like security.ubuntu.com is in reorg, it doesn't actually have any packages, just the lists.
[05:27] <draik> jhutchins: Too bad I forgot the command for appending a line to the end of a file, so time for long way
[05:27] <draik> uslacker: Yes
[05:27] <draik> ALT+F2
[05:27] <jhutchins> echo "line" >> file
[05:27] <uslacker> the apr-get update seems to have fixed it
[05:27] <draik> jhutchins: Thank you.
[05:27] <jhutchins> erm, sudo....
[05:27] <uslacker> download is now working
[05:27] <draik> ok
[05:27] <draik> I was going to have the file replaced
[05:28] <uslacker> I assume that I need to reboot after updating video
[05:28] <ardchoille> Would there be any problems in putting apt-get update into a daily cronjob for root?
[05:29] <draik> uslacker: No. Just log off and then select Menu to Restart X (CTRL+E). Then login.
[05:29] <ardchoille> uslacker: No, just restart xorg: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  thers some package/service that can do that allready I do belive
[05:29] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Cool, eh? :3
[05:29] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Ah, ok
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  you manage to get stuff ive never even heard about.. :) thats amazing..
[05:30] <Minataku> Wow
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i got a hand full of random microchips at work today. :) from fanuc, and other controller boards.
[05:30] <Minataku> Oooooh
[05:30] <Dr_willis>  want them also? heh heh
[05:30] <Minataku> Cool :D
[05:30] <Minataku> Sure
[05:30] <Minataku> Toss 'em in with the Amigas :3
[05:30] <Dr_willis> I was going to glue eyes, and antanna to them
[05:30] <Dr_willis> 'computer bugs'
[05:30] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:31] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:31] <Minataku> You can keep them to do that, too
[05:31] <Minataku> That sounds really cute :3
[05:31] <ardchoille> crash_: I bet you could sell those
[05:31] <uslacker> one more driver update question.  The adept description says I need to run sudo nvidia-glx-config after install
[05:31] <uslacker> did apt-get take care of that for me?
[05:31] <draik> No
[05:32] <draik> uslacker: run it
[05:32] <uslacker> ok so I did and got a message that the script is trying to update xorg.conf
[05:32] <draik> If no error, then you're done
[05:32] <uslacker> that gave me a different command to run to updat the md5 hash
[05:33] <draik> ?:/
[05:33] <uslacker> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:33] <draik> uslacker: Do as it says, I guess.
[05:37] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I've amazed some of my professors with not only my old kit, but also with the fact that I know computer history
[05:37] <Dr_willis> biglinux  	BIG LINUX is a Brazilian distribution based on Kubuntu,
[05:37] <ardchoille> userund: What that does is take the md5sum of xorg.conf and add it to the end of /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Yet another ubuntu variant! yea...
[05:37] <Minataku> I can actually talk to them about things that they experienced before I was born
[05:38] <Dr_willis> The most important new feature in this release is an updated version of Big Desktop, a comprehensive graphical configuration utility for setting up the Big Linux desktop environment.
[05:38] <draik> ardchoille: uslacker left
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Its getting scary that a new disrtos Biggest feature is some Idiot-friendly GUI for configuration.
[05:38] <ardchoille> draik: ah, ok
[05:38] <draik> ardchoille: Oh well, they will figure it out
[05:39] <ardchoille> That's what I get for doing /ignore #kubuntu JOINS QUITS PARTS, lol
[05:39] <draik> ardchoille: Yeah, I learned that the hard way :p
[05:39] <stupidgirl> what lost and found menu for??
[05:39] <jesus__> hola
[05:40] <jesus__> hello
[05:40] <jesus__> everybody
[05:40] <stupidgirl> hai jesus__
[05:40] <Dr_willis> stupidgirl,  things that for some odd reason dont get put anyplace else.
[05:40] <draik> Hello jesus__
[05:40] <jesus__> hello
[05:40] <jesus__> hey
[05:40] <jesus__> i'm
[05:40] <jesus__> new
[05:40] <stupidgirl> hrmm ok thanks
[05:40] <Dr_willis> !enter
[05:40] <draik> jesus__: All on one like instead of one word per line
[05:40] <jesus__> ubuntu is freat
[05:40] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:40] <stupidgirl> ya it is
[05:40] <jesus__> great
[05:41] <draik> Yup
[05:41] <draik> Thank you Dr_willis
[05:41] <jesus__> someone use oracle 10g?
[05:44] <stupidgirl> my beryl manager thng loads in the task bar twice when i boot up :-/
[05:44] <stupidgirl> how can i fix it
[05:45] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: Yeah, somebody here found a GUI way to maintain restricted modules.  I that that was called "Windows".
[05:45] <magez_> why kopete doesnt wanna send anything, i can send only under 10kt files
[05:45] <jhutchins> magez_: What network?
[05:45] <TrueFX> how can see a list of ctrl or meta character key sequences of a bash shell?
[05:45] <TrueFX> to edit them?
[05:46] <jhutchins> TrueFX: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_86.html#SEC93
[05:46] <magez_> network?
[05:46] <magez_> cable
[05:46] <magez_> if u mean that
[05:46] <jhutchins> TrueFX: By default they're the same as emacs.
[05:47] <TrueFX> is tehre a way to list them?
[05:47] <magez_> or 1mb/s
[05:47] <TrueFX> are they stored in a file?
[05:47] <uslacker> draik & Dr_Willis thanks for the assist
[05:47] <jhutchins> TrueFX: Read the above and related pages.
[05:47] <uslacker> it got a little hairy - after the reconfig, of course x wouldn't restart
[05:47] <jhutchins> magez_: I mean what network are you trying to send files over?  IRC?  AIM?  MSN?
[05:48] <draik> uslacker: per ardchoille - What that does is take the md5sum of xorg.conf and add it to the end of /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:48] <uslacker> I looked at xorg.conf and there was a command there to regen the config file
[05:48] <magez_> oh, msn
[05:48] <uslacker> I did so and it still wouldn't start.  I rebooted and it come up fine
[05:48] <uslacker> There;s a big nvidia splash screen now
[05:48] <draik> What did you do? CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or logoff?
[05:49] <uslacker> but more importantly - it recover from a screen closure (yeah!)
[05:49] <uslacker> c-a-back
[05:49] <magez_> jhutchins: MSN
[05:49] <draik> That is why I suggested the logoff
[05:49] <uslacker> draik c-a-backspace
[05:49] <draik> Either way, it works now
[05:50] <uslacker> draik - what's the difference?
[05:50] <draik> uslacker: Nothing much, but for things like this I prefer the logoff
[05:50] <uslacker> ok
[05:51] <uslacker> let me try suspend - I'll be back
[05:51] <draik> A Logoff will save your session as a C-A-B will just leave it there for resuming later
[05:51] <draik> Ok
[05:51] <morph_> how do you install things on superkaramba
[05:51] <morph_> i just got the weather file but it opens kate
[05:51] <Dr_willis> i make a .superkaramba dir and unzup them to there.
[05:51] <draik> morph_: use the superkaramba installer or go to http://www.kde-look.org
[05:52] <ardchoille> morph_: You have to right click on the sk tray item and use sk to open the theme
[05:52] <jesus__> bye everyone
[05:52] <jesus__> chau a todos
[05:52] <Dr_willis> but i cant recall finding naything usefull  with superkaramba to actually use. :)
[05:52] <draik> Dr_willis: I second that!
[05:52] <ardchoille> I don't usually have enough room to see my desktop, so I doin't use sk
[05:52] <Dr_willis> draik,  Id much perfer PanelApplets to desklets.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I can at least SEE them all the time
[05:53] <draik> Dr_willis: True
[05:53] <_>  anyone here in the UK?
[05:53] <ardchoille> draik: Or gkrallm, it has a weather plugin
[05:53] <ardchoille> *gkrellm
[05:54] <Dr_willis> that konky (conky?) program is nice in ways. but dosetn always work nicely with kde
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !info konky
[05:54] <ubotu> Package konky does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !info conky
[05:54] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB
[05:54] <morph_> im such a n00b
[05:55] <morph_> i cant get superkaramba to install stuff
[05:55] <draik> Consider that a sign ;)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Heh heh
[05:56] <omega> hy to all
[05:57] <omega> how can i install a vindows program in linux?
[05:58] <draik> omega: wine
[05:58] <TeraDyne_> !wine | omega
[05:58] <ubotu> omega: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> omega,  use wine.
[05:58] <draik> !wine | omega
[05:58] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[05:58] <Dr_willis> wine setup.exe
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <omega> thanks to all
[06:02] <hiyah> how do you rsync a directory with spacing? i tried to use "\ " to replace the space but failed
[06:03] <hiyah> how do you rsync a directory name with spacing? i tried to use "\ " to replace the space but failed
[06:04] <draik> hiyah: use quotes         "my directory name"
[06:05] <hiyah> "" failed...
[06:05] <hiyah> rsync "abc@xyz:/home/My Documents/" .
[06:06] <Dr_willis> abc@xyz:'try this'
[06:06] <Dr_willis> perhaps.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> " abc@xyz:'try this' "
[06:06] <NickPresta> hiyah, quotes and escapes. 'directory\ with\ spaces'. http://forum.strongspace.com/viewtopic.php?pid=1173 post #3
[06:08] <omega> how can i see the share of windows network?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> omega,  smb:// in konqueror dont show it?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> or try   remote:/
[06:18] <omega> where can i see samba cofigure?
[06:18] <omega> aaa
[06:18] <omega> ok i.m gonna do that
[06:18] <omega> thanks
[06:18] <Dr_willis> samba is configured by the /etc/samba/smb.conf file. BUT samba is not installed by default. You are browsing OTHER shares. :) not the local machines samba shares
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[06:18] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Samba-doc has some Well done books on samba
[06:19] <Dr_willis> i also like to use the samba fuse tools.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !info smbfuse
[06:19] <ubotu> Package smbfuse does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !info fusesmb
[06:19] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB
[06:20] <omega> ok
[06:20] <omega> i see what i can do
[06:20] <omega> thanks
[06:24] <pablo7> anyone know why some (encrypted) dvd's play and some don't?
[06:25] <pablo7> error message is "disc can't be read."
[06:26] <pablo7> i don't think it's an issue with the region setting either.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> check dmesg output?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Ive had some dvd players lately that cant read some comercial dvd disks.. wonder if some pc drives have similer issue
[06:27] <pablo7> Dr_willis: maybe that's it, a hardware issue.
[06:29] <pablo7> Dr_willis: dmesg output... "cdrom: open failed."
[06:30] <pablo7> Dr_willis: "UDP: bad checksum. From 202.97.238.202:32971 to 66.90.229.30:1027 ulen 509."
[06:30] <Dr_willis> UDP: bad checksum - is some firewalling thang. Not related to the cd
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <Biovore> someone sending you messy UDP..
[06:31] <pablo7> Dr_willis: Thanks for pointing that out.
[06:37] <euphoria> hi i installed beryl and i did something that was supposed to make it load as default window manager, well it doesnt work, it just loads the beryl icon in the tray thing does anyone know how i can fix this
[06:40] <hgarcia> has anyone installed clamav before?
[06:41] <euphoria> i tried a few mins agio and it didnt work :-\
[06:42] <hgarcia> did you get an error stating it is not configured?
[06:42] <euphoria> nah something about gnome and dependencies blahblah
[06:42] <hgarcia> hmm
[06:43] <hgarcia> I got it to install thru automatix
[06:46] <dsmith_> how does one configure konqueror?
[06:46] <Minataku> !automatix
[06:46] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:47] <dsmith_> it us to have toolbars on it but they are gone now
[06:47] <dsmith_> seems that there is a bug associated with it
[06:49] <yendor> hello? can anybody help me?
[06:50] <dsmith_> ok I got the viewbar working back
[06:50] <dsmith_> thats strange
[06:50] <ardchoille> !ask | yendor
[06:51] <ubotu> yendor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:52] <yendor> right away... situation: When I disconnect my laptop from the plug it isnt noticing it's running on battery mode thus I cannot monitor its consumption
[06:52] <yendor> it still uses the battery and stays running though..
[06:53] <yendor> I'm using power manager on kubuntu and it used to work well till a few days ago
[06:54] <yendor> do you have an idea what could be causing this problem please?
[06:56] <linux_user400354> i have setup dual monitors in linux using nvidia-settings. my top and bottom panels in gnome stretch from one screen to the other. how can i get the panels to stay on one screen and not stretch to the other screen?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> linux_user400354,  using nvidia or ati cards?
[06:57] <dustin> hello
[06:58] <linux_user400354> Dr_willis: nvidia, using nvidia-settings to configure
[06:58] <Dr_willis> enable TwinView
[06:59] <yendor> Why is my laptop not deteting its running on battery when I unplug it!?
[07:00] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Still got those houseguests, I suppose? :3
[07:01] <yendor> Why is my laptop not deteting its running on battery when I unplug it!?
[07:01] <Minataku> yendor: Is it an old laptop?
[07:02] <Minataku> It's possible it's not generating or something isn't receiving ACPI events
[07:02] <yendor> It's an ASUS A6F dual core and this used to work well till a few days ago
[07:02] <dustin> has anyone gotten exchange to work with kontact?
[07:02] <yendor> yes this is what I"m suspecting .. how can I troubleshoot ACPI?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep. They just keep rotateing.
[07:02] <yendor> please
[07:02] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[07:03] <Minataku> yendor: What have you changed between it working and not working?
[07:04] <yendor> Minataku: the acpid service is disabled...could this be the cause?
[07:04] <Minataku> yendor: That could very much be a factor, yes
[07:05] <yendor> acpi-supp$ is enabled though
[07:05] <yendor> I'll try enabling it and try again.. I'll get back to you thanks Minataku
[07:05] <TrueFX> hi guy s
[07:05] <Minataku> yendor: Heh, no problem
[07:06] <TrueFX> can i bind hjkl keys for browsing in konqueror menus?
[07:06] <miltos> I lost the icon of the 2 desktops (1,2) on my taskbar...and I don't know how to bring it back...
[07:06] <TrueFX> h to left j down k up l rit in fact any application
[07:06] <TrueFX> for example i use konversation
[07:07] <TrueFX> alt+b opens bookmarks
[07:07] <TrueFX> then in that menu can i move with hjkl keys
[07:12] <TrueFX> hi guys
[07:12] <yendor> THANK MINATAKU.. It Worked :)
[07:12] <Minataku> yendor: No problem :3
[07:12] <TrueFX> how can i see version of an application installed by apt?
[07:12] <TrueFX> and also version of kde ?
[07:14] <ardchoille> TrueFX: Most kde apps have Help > About KDE  and  Help > About appname
[07:14] <TrueFX> what about kde itself?
[07:14] <TrueFX> in konsole how can i do that?
[07:15] <ardchoille> TrueFX: open a terminal and type:  apt-cache policy kdebase
[07:16] <miltos> I lost the icon of the 2 desktops (1,2) on my taskbar...and I don't know how to bring it back...
[07:16] <ninHer> the same way, TrueFX
[07:16] <ninHer> look at help on Konsole
[07:17] <ardchoille> TrueFX: If you're on Feisty, you likely have kde 3.5.6
[07:17] <Carlos_Slim> hello
[07:18] <TrueFX> yep i m in feisty
[07:18] <TrueFX> another question
[07:18] <TrueFX> in a file there are commands
[07:19] <TrueFX> 15 or so
[07:19] <TrueFX> and i want to execute those commands
[07:19] <TrueFX> how can i do that in shell
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> someone said something to me earlier, my buffer doesn't go back that far.  anyone know if it was important?
[07:19] <TrueFX> i open kate i copy and paste it in bash shell
[07:19] <TrueFX> konsole
[07:19] <TrueFX> how can i automatically make it?
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> chmod it +x and run it?
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> but i don't know how well that would work, what commands we're talking about, so i wouldn't recommend it
[07:20] <dustin> i can't get kontact working with outlook web access as part of an exchange server :(
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the real world, dustin :P
[07:21] <dustin> haha
[07:21] <dustin> i might have to use evolution again
[07:22] <TrueFX> daisuke_ldo=commands for resetting iptable
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i dunno if sunbird would help (mozilla owned)
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> is this something you do on a regular basis?  (daily, weekly, whatever)
[07:23] <dustin> yeah
[07:23] <dustin> for work
[07:23] <dustin> so a couple of times s night
[07:23] <selanit> Hiya.  Got a minor but annoying problem - Firefox doesn't remember its last position.  It always opens flush with the left edge of the screen, when I want it centered.  Not sure if this is a Firefox or a KDE problem, though.
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> dustin: was asking TrueFX :)
[07:23] <dustin> lol
[07:23] <dustin> sorry
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know how well sunbird would integrate or if it would at all...  sorry, i don't know much about exchange compatibility (or even what most of it does)
[07:24] <dsmith_> outlook web access, isnt that like a web access portal?
[07:24] <dustin> yeah
[07:24] <dustin> for an exchange server
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i thought
[07:24] <dustin> that's how evolution does it
[07:24] <dustin> it basically syncs with owa
[07:25] <dustin> afaik, you cannot connect to the exchange server directly
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, sunbid is a calendaring app, that's not going to help much :\
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> kmail is afaik strictly mail
[07:25] <dsmith_> there is only 10+ ppl in the office, I said no way to an exchange server
[07:25] <dustin> it's expensive :(
[07:26] <dustin> but we support 100 offices throughout the state
[07:26] <dustin> so exchange was a good option
[07:26] <dsmith_> we see thats different
[07:26] <dsmith_> yes
[07:26] <dsmith_> *well
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> so a FOSS solution isn't feasible
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> bummer.
[07:26] <dustin> evolution works well
[07:26] <dsmith_> we just pop and use thunderbird
[07:26] <_V> Hello. I have a pretty large video problem with a friend's computer. When using an NVidia card under Kubuntu, and starting up from both the LiveCD and from the hard drive installation, we get a very strange screen,or combination of screens. You can see the Kubuntu bootloading screen, but there's two of them and the  colors are all distorted; the bottom half of the screen is all sorts of checkered colors.
[07:26] <dustin> but i'd rather use kmail
[07:27] <_V> I've tried two different AGP NVidia cards: a 6200 and a 5600.
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa, block flood
[07:27] <dsmith_> _V: Did you you install?
[07:27] <dsmith_> oh wait you did  already
[07:27] <_V> Yes, he did install, but he installed with his onboard. I tried switching from the "vesa" driver to the "nv" driver, but nothing worked.
[07:28] <dsmith_> what I typically do with nvidia
[07:28] <dsmith_> is install automatix2 and use the nvidia drivers
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> check the bios and make sure it's set so the addon video card takes precedence rather than the onboard.  if nv isn't working....
[07:29] <dsmith_> good point
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: all handled through add/remove in feisty :)
[07:29] <_V> Well, his BIOS is a bit strange; he is using an HP and the only two options are  "PCI" and
[07:29] <_V> "AGP/onboard"
[07:29] <_V> for video, anyway
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm assuming it's an agp card
[07:29] <_V> yeah
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> try both
[07:29] <_V> we have
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i do.  if there are lots of options, i try em all, and if nothing blows up, i call it a success.
[07:30] <dustin> man
[07:30] <_V> I am assuming that getting the drivers through automatix2 while the onboard is active will do it no harm until I restart?
[07:30] <dustin> i wish KWeather gave temperature in fahrenheit
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> _V: absolutely correct.
[07:30] <_V> alright
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> dustin: no reason it shouldn't be able to
[07:30] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks for that tip, I am still green w/ fiesty.
[07:30] <_V> I will give that a try then.
[07:31] <dsmith_> I just opened it up, amazing
[07:31] <dsmith_> all built in now
[07:31] <dsmith_> sweet
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: there's *almost* no reason to use automatix anymore
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i know it's naughty, but i use it to install skype because any other way is a frickin headache
[07:33] <dsmith_> lol
[07:33] <_V> I try to steer clear of Automatix; I was going to use Envy, but I wasn't completely sure what I was doing when installing the drivers manually.
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> _V: installing from the repos is the best idea, nvidia-glx-legacy for the 5xxx series and nvidia-glx for the 6xxx
[07:34] <dsmith_> next clean install I do of Fiesty, I will work without automatix and see how it does. I suspect I wont be using it anymore
[07:34] <dustin> what's a good video transcoder for linux?
[07:34] <_V> alright
[07:34] <dustin> specifically, i want to go from .rm to .wmv
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: the ubuntu team has really gotten their stuff together
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> err :\
[07:34] <dsmith_> I see this..
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> dustin: no clue
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> now if you wanted to transcode between two USEFUL formats...
[07:35] <dsmith_> lol
[07:35] <dustin> LOL
[07:35] <dustin> agreed
[07:35] <dustin> it's for work
[07:35] <dustin> and the boss decides
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that's going to be a tought
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> toughy
[07:35] <dsmith_> most bosses are computer illiterates
[07:36] <dsmith_> and CFOs
[07:36] <dustin> it's more like
[07:36] <dustin> we have to put stuff online
[07:36] <dustin> on a windows media streaming server
[07:36] <dsmith_> I just ripped a bunch of Cds into Ogg format
[07:36] <carranca> hi, ive just installed kubuntu, and every time i restart the console appears with a fsck that gets stuck for a while, beside that everything seems norma
[07:37] <dsmith_> does Kubuntu work with touchscreens?
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> carranca: let it run
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> should only check every 30 mounts
[07:38] <carranca> i do, but ive restart it, and it does it again...
[07:38] <carranca> ive put a reisfer fs
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> well no wonder, that's murder on your resources.
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> not even a groan?  tough crowd.
[07:41] <carranca> ive put reisfer in my desktop and it works well
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> is it cleanly unmounting on reboot?
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's not, that would be the problem
[07:41] <Private_Guy1> hello all
[07:42] <Private_Guy1> Just wanna drop in and say KUBUNTU RULES
[07:42] <Private_Guy1> g2g for nw
[07:42] <Private_Guy1> take care
[07:42] <Private_Guy1> bye
[07:42] <carranca> cant tell, it quits with graph :P
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> carranca: ctrl+alt+f1 when you're shutting down should get you to where you want to be
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> that was...  random...
[07:44] <aly> how do i use the themes listed in emerald themer
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> click on them
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> as long as you have emerald set as your window decorator
[07:45] <aly> how do i set that?
[07:45] <aly> i clck on them but nothing happens
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> in beryl-manager, select emerald as your window decorator
[07:45] <kamui> HA!
[07:45] <kamui> beryl
[07:45] <kamui> how primitive :)
[07:46] <aly> beryl-manager is in system tab?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> kamui: are you a visitor FROM THE FUUUUUUUTUUUUUUUURE?
[07:46] <kamui> do you spark enough power to start your pc by striking two rocks together?
[07:46] <kamui> Im just messin around
[07:46] <kamui> recently moved to compiz-fusion
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> from when beryl and compiz have finished the merge and released CORYL!
[07:46] <kamui> actually much cooler
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds neato
[07:47] <aly> where's beryl manager located at?
[07:47] <kamui> you should check it out, at least watch a video
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> gosh beav, can i come over and check it out?  maybe mrs. cleaver can make some brownies then we can go play catch!
[07:47] <kamui> its beryl 1.5 afaik
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry.  it's late.
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> very late.
[07:48] <_V> I tried getting the drivers from the repository (the nvidia-glx driver) and the same thing as always happened.
[07:49] <aly> where's beryl manager located at?
[07:50] <mmcho> Feisty failed to install scim correctly. Why canna server can't be reached. Meanwhile, in Edgy that's problem doesn't exist
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> aly: sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> kamui: holy crispy crunchy crap that's cool.
[07:51] <mmcho> This is the message of Scim on Kubuntu: ???????????????
[07:51] <mmcho> Which means Canna server can't be reached
[07:51] <ardchoille> lol @ Daisuke_Ido
[07:54] <kamui> Daisuke_Ido: SEE! :)
[07:54] <kamui> I was amazed myself when I got it running
[07:54] <kamui> way better than beryl in terms of candy and useful functions
[07:54] <Daisuke_Ido> kamui: if i weren't straight i'd kiss you.
[07:54] <kamui> lol
[07:55] <kamui> some of the advanced configuration in compiz-fusion require some command line editing, but I doubt you'd hav any issues
[07:55] <aly> howcome in beryl emerald is not located in window manager?
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> aly: because emerald is beryl's default window decorator
[07:56] <miltos> hi ppl_:)
[07:56] <aly> oh
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to use your kde window decorations (And change them through system settings), you'll have to use aquamarine (which i actually like better anyway
[07:56] <aly> so how do i make the emerald themes work ?
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> kamui: link for getting it running on feisty?
[07:57] <aly> i double click on them they dont do anything
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> is beryl even running?
[07:57] <aly> beryl manager you mean right?
[07:58] <aly> beryl manager is running
[07:58] <Daisuke_Ido> no, beryl.
[07:58] <aly> hmm
[07:58] <aly> in system tools i can see beryl manager only
[07:58] <Daisuke_Ido> easy way to test this.  when you move your windows, does it look like the jell-o served in school and hospital cafeterias?
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> (do they wobble)
[07:59] <aly> they dont
[07:59] <NickPresta> You could also test by holding alt in the middle of a window and trying and move it :P
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> that's why emerald doesn't work
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> emerald is for beryl
[08:00] <NickPresta> aly, do you see a little gem icon in your system tray somewhere? If you do, right click on it, hover over "Select window manager" and select Beryl.
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> if beryl isn't running, emerald won't run.
[08:00] <aly> yeh i do
[08:00] <NickPresta> and sorry to hijack your answer, Daisuke_Ido ;)
[08:01] <carranca> Daisuke_Ido still, ive rebooted, it says nothing about bad unmounting but stills checks fs
[08:01] <miltos> how to bring back the default settings of kde? (those when I installed them)?
[08:01] <aly> it wont select beryl for some reason
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[08:01] <aly> i can select everything else but beryl :S
[08:01] <NickPresta> aly, open up a console and type in: beryl-manager
[08:01] <carranca> Daisuke_Ido, oh ive just seen fsck dies with status 1
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> aly: is compiz in that list?
[08:01] <NickPresta> you should see some output and such. Monitor the output there for any errors or anything
[08:01] <justin__> hmm
[08:01] <aly> yes it is Daisuke_Ido
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> is it selectable?
[08:02] <kamui> Daisuke_Ido:  go to the main compiz forum.  I had to update my entire debian system to unstable, but I think there may be a feisty repo, worst case senario you'll need to update your libc, but easier to find out at the compiz-fusion forum
[08:02] <kamui> not the compiz forum, the compiz-fusion forum sorry
[08:02] <kamui> let me see if I can find a link
[08:02] <aly> yes its selectable Daisuke_Ido
[08:02] <NickPresta> There is a compiz-fusion package for Feisty, IIRC. It is also reported to be pretty stable. Still, I am sticking with Beryl.
[08:03] <kamui> Daisuke_Ido: fusion is in trevino's repos
[08:03] <NickPresta> yes
[08:03] <kamui> http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb
[08:03] <aly> Daisuke_Ido: yes it is
[08:04] <ThePope> I'm having trouble getting my Nvidia card to work with Kubuntu. I tried getting the drivers from Envy and the repos but neither worked. I end up getting a screen where the top is screwy colors and the bottom is just white and black stripes. Can someone help me?
[08:04] <ThePope> Vee was talking on my behalf before
[08:04] <crocodile> hi when I reboot, knetworkmanager tries to access kwallet.  If I don't type the password fast enough then I'm screwed for wireless.  Is there a way to make it NOT ASK for a password?
 put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:06] <crocodile> put what in?
[08:06] <aly> i can select everything else but beryl why is that?
 the pass
[08:07] <crocodile> insmod - I don't see the correct formatting
 what do you mean
[08:08] <klobster> did a good job? then dance: http://www.blogmusik.net/?urlIdSong=13346
[08:08] <crocodile> well I can't just.. type in the password randomly right, theres a correct format to enter that
[08:08] <crocodile> and it's not obvious on what the format is
 i thing it is key -s pass -- man iwconfig should tell -- if you still can't find it i can turn on my laptop
[08:09] <crocodile> ok what password am I putting in btw, the password for kwallet or the network password?
 network
[08:10] <insmod> let me check the laptop
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> fusion seems to not want to work
[08:13] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Lower the control rods into the reactor
[08:13] <kexman> hi
[08:13] <linux_user400354> i am using dual monitors. my second monitor has the panels now, and but i want them on the first monitor. how can i do that?
[08:14] <kexman> i built a new kernel
[08:14] <kexman> but i cant boot it !
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> then you are officially unsupported now.
[08:14] <NickPresta> linux_user400354, right click on the panel, configure the panel and select monitor 1/2.
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> unofficially, there are probably a few people that can help out :)
[08:14] <Minataku> kexman: You may have done it wrong
[08:14] <Minataku> Boot the previous kernel instead and try again
[08:14] <kexman> i set up the same values in the grub config but i get a mwave Initializing Board  SMAPI is not available on this machine
[08:15] <kexman> Error failed to initialize board data.
[08:15] <Minataku> That doesn't sound like a critical failure
[08:15] <kexman> kernel panic - not syncing VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:15] <Minataku> That is
[08:15] <Minataku> Did you remember to build the initrd?
[08:15] <kexman> Minataku: i booted to previous kernel now
[08:15] <kexman> i dont want to build any initrd
[08:16] <angellama> hi! good morning
[08:16] <kexman> why would i need it ?
[08:16] <Minataku> Then do you have the requisite drivers compiled in?
[08:16] <kexman> i never build initrd
[08:16] <angellama> the spanish ubuntu channel??
[08:16] <Minataku> !es
[08:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:16] <kexman> hm Minataku which ones ? :)
[08:16] <kexman> what is this mwave ?
 get it ?
[08:16] <Minataku> kexman: You need things like the IDE adapter that your HDD uses
[08:17] <kexman> aha
[08:17] <Minataku> If the driver for the adapter is missing, it'll never see the HDD
[08:17] <kexman> that is the mwave ?
[08:17] <Minataku> No
[08:17] <Minataku> mwave is a winmodem driver
[08:17] <kexman> duhhh
[08:17] <crocodile> insmod net yet, do I just type iwconfig or do I justadd the line to interfaces?
 wireless-key s:key and wireless-essid name if you have one
 i just checked my laptop
[08:18] <crocodile> and that goes under eth0?
[08:18] <kexman> okay i added my sata drivers as built in
[08:18] <kexman> hope this works
[08:18] <kexman> thanks for pointing out this :)
[08:18] <kexman> its too early in the morning for me right now :)
 whatever your wireless interface is
 usually wlan0 or ath0 etc eth0 is usually ethernet
[08:19] <Minataku> kexman: Heehee
 iwconfig should say
[08:20] <miltos> when I minimize applications there is no indication on my taskbar...what should I do?
[08:20] <kexman> okay rebooting again :)
[08:20] <kexman> wish me luck ;)
[08:20] <crocodile> insmod - I don't actuallly write 'iwconfig' though right?
[08:20] <crocodile> in the interfaces file *
 no only to check the interface
[08:21] <crocodile> ok, thanks I'll give this a shot
 but no not in the intrefaces file
[08:21] <crocodile> not in the interfaces file???
 then just restart the network -- ifdown wlan0 the ifup wlan0 -- wlan0 is you interface
[08:22] <caris_mere> Amarok and Katapult have suddenly quit working. I can't even get them started. Any ideas?
 in the intefaces file just and wireless-key s:xxxxxxx and if needed wireless-essid name
[08:23] <crocodile> ok I thought thats what I said ;)  I'll give it a try
[08:23] <crocodile> thanks insmod
[08:23] <aly> how do i make emerald themes work?
)
[08:24] <aly> theres no button to apply the theme
[08:26] <caris_mere> Has anybody had problems with Amarok since the latest updates offered for Kubuntu Feisty?
[08:30] <caris_mere> Amarok won't start up.  I removed and reinstalled, but it still won't start.  What can I do?
what error does it give
[08:31] <caris_mere> no errors, it never loads?
 load it in a term and read the errors
[08:31] <caris_mere> insmod: what do you mean?
 open a terminal --- xterm Eterm konsole etc the type amorak
[08:33] <euphoria> hi everyone, how make beryl the default window manager when I start kubuntu feisty? i try ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager but it didnt work :-/
 add it in .dmrc
[08:34] <crocodile> i put a bash file in autostart
[08:34] <hiyah> is there a command to insert a line just before "exit 0" in /etc/rc.local to do a "xhost +"? i need to add it in a script
[08:34] <caris_mere> insmod: I typed in amarok in konsole, but it looks like it is frozen, not doing anything
[08:35] <euphoria> .dmrc? ok i look for it
no erorrs ?
[08:36] <caris_mere> insmod: it doesn't say anything
 is it docked
 look at the right bottom icons
[08:36] <caris_mere> insmod: it isn't there
  killall -9 amorak
  killall -9 amarok that is
[08:37] <caris_mere> insmod: ok, I did that
  ps -aux|grep amarok --- is it listed
[08:39] <caris_mere> insmod: yes
[08:39] <insmod> killall -9 amarokapp
[08:40] <caris_mere> insmod: ok, I did that and I already saw that another program that wasn't working sent a message that it loaded
  killall the stall pids then load it
[08:41] <insmod> killall -9 amaroka should do it try running it
[08:42] <caris_mere> insmod: that said "no process killed"
[08:42] <insmod> killall -9 amarokapp should do it try running it
[08:42] <insmod> sorry
[08:44] <caris_mere> insmod: that said the same thing
[08:44] <carranca> how do i deactivate fsck for a fat partition? (is a windows partition)
[08:45] <caris_mere> insmod: though amarok is still not working, katapult now works
[08:45] <crocodile> i have media buttons on my laptop, how do I get them working in ubuntu?  (play/stop/pause/etc)
 so do ps -aux | less and then use kill pid# -- long but should work
[08:50] <aznpridechinese> anyone know how to install an nvidia 8800gtx video card driver?
[08:52] <aznpridechinese> kubuntu is considered linux right?
[08:53] <caris_mere> insmod: 7112 is one of the pids, how do I type in the kill command?
[08:53] <carranca> how do i disable fsck for a vfat partition? it seems to have some problems and make my boot very long
 kill  7112
[08:55] <caris_mere> insmod: there were only 2 pids, does that seem right?
 try it
[09:01] <caris_mere> insmod: I killed the pids, do I need to try to run amarok again?
[09:01] <mrwilloby> I've got a USB flash drive that is vfat and automounts with shortname=lower, how can I make Kubuntu use shortname=winnt so that I may create all uppercase directories?
[09:02] <mrwilloby> I saw this post, but tried following it and unchecking the box for KDED didn't do anything http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369938
 ya
[09:03] <aznpridechinese> is there a command i can use to find out what version of kde i'm using?
[09:03] <aznpridechinese> nvm
[09:04] <caris_mere> insmod: it says first that it's starting amarokapp, then says not to run a few packages against this binary, then says amarok is taking too long to load.
[09:05] <caris_mere> insmod: then it says "perhaps something has gone wrong" and it looks frozen again
 sound like you are missing some deps
[09:07] <caris_mere> insmod: Wouldn't adept figure that out when I removed it and then installed it later?
 well it could have brocken links
[09:09] <caris_mere> insmod: do you know what I can do now?
check through logs -- or just do a complete reinstall of the package and make sure every dep needed it installed
[09:11] <caris_mere> insmod: ok, thanks. I hope I can get it working again
 good luck
[09:24] <aznpridechinese> does kde 3.5.6 that came with kubuntu have a theme manager? i'm trying to get a theme to work but don't know how?
[09:30] <SummerRain> Please help to find theme manager ...
[09:30] <aznpridechinese> do i need a theme manager to be able to download themes off the web and use them? if so which one?
[09:31] <SummerRain> I'm searching in Adept
[09:32] <SummerRain> try kdmtheme
[09:32] <SummerRain> in adept search
[09:32] <SummerRain> kdmtheme is a theme manager for KDM. It provides a KDE Control Module (KCM) that allows you to easily install, remove and change your KDM themes
[09:33] <aznpridechinese> cool let me try
[09:34] <aznpridechinese> found it, now i just hit request install and it will install by itself right?
[09:35] <SummerRain> click button - APPLY Changes
[09:36] <SummerRain> also try this - kdeartwork
[09:37] <aznpridechinese> i have the kde theme manager in my appearance but it's saying i need administrator mode but i don't see the button
[09:38] <SummerRain> can you switch to administrator state ?
[09:39] <aznpridechinese> i can't, it says kubuntu automatically locks root and it's password, and during installation whatever user name you typed in you can do all admin works with that name
[09:40] <SummerRain> try to exit (logout) tour current account
[09:40] <aznpridechinese> sudo "command" then enter my password is all i can do as root
[09:40] <SummerRain> then log in in console mode
[09:40] <SummerRain> type root
[09:41] <SummerRain> then your password
[09:41] <aznpridechinese> i tried
[09:41] <aznpridechinese> it doesn't work, i never asked me to type in a password for root when i did the installation
[09:42] <SummerRain> go to system settings
[09:42] <aznpridechinese> ok
[09:42] <SummerRain> then user management
[09:43] <aznpridechinese> ok
[09:43] <SummerRain> under list of users click checkbox - show system accounts
[09:43] <SummerRain> find - root
[09:44] <SummerRain> then button - modify
[09:44] <aznpridechinese> ok
[09:44] <SummerRain> make status - enabled ( if not )
[09:45] <aznpridechinese> enable it?
[09:45] <SummerRain> yse
[09:45] <SummerRain> yes
[09:45] <aznpridechinese> should it type in a password under password & security?
[09:45] <SummerRain> then go to password and security
[09:45] <SummerRain> type there pass
[09:46] <aznpridechinese> then hit ok?
[09:46] <SummerRain> valid until - always
[09:46] <SummerRain> then ok
[09:46] <aznpridechinese> cool
[09:46] <aznpridechinese> then log into root and change theme?
[09:46] <SummerRain> try to login under console
[09:47] <SummerRain> under console type login  - root - pass - your pass
[09:47] <SummerRain> then go to adept and install - kdeartwork
[09:48] <aznpridechinese> i already installed kdeartwork i think
[09:49] <SummerRain> status must be installed
[09:50] <aznpridechinese> btw the login -root -pass -mypassword didn't work
[09:50] <aznpridechinese> says Usage: login [-p]  [name] 
[09:51] <aznpridechinese> status for all the kdeartwork related materials are installed
[09:52] <SummerRain> then try to find something new in system menu
[09:53] <SummerRain> or try to type in console - kdeartwork
[09:53] <aznpridechinese> says command not found
[09:54] <SummerRain> i'm downloading kdeartwork now - wait until i'll download it then i can help you
[09:55] <aznpridechinese> thanks
[09:55] <SummerRain> did you find something new in menu
[09:55] <SummerRain> ?
[09:55] <aznpridechinese> in system?
[09:55] <aznpridechinese> don't see anything new
[09:56] <SummerRain> 11% complete
[09:57] <aznpridechinese> hmmm are you on dialup?
[09:58] <SummerRain> ADSL - 64kbps
[09:58] <TheFuzzball> Hello, I have a serious problem with my Kubuntu 7.04 system...
[09:58] <SummerRain> Hello
[09:59] <jontec> TheFuzzball: ask the question
[09:59] <TheFuzzball> ...I go to bed around 10PM and when I get up in the morning my comuter is frozen with a black screen
[09:59] <TheFuzzball> and there is nothing I can do other than power off and on again
[10:00] <TheFuzzball> and that's not very helpful when your using your computer as an alarm Clock :p
[10:00] <SummerRain> Do you see kubuntu logo while booting
[10:00] <SummerRain> ?
[10:00] <TheFuzzball> yea
[10:02] <SummerRain> try to reinstall
[10:03] <jontec> is it the screen saver? What do you have as it?
[10:03] <TheFuzzball> SummerRain, reinstall Kubuntu?
[10:03] <SummerRain> yes
[10:04] <TheFuzzball> that's a lot of trouble
[10:04] <SummerRain> if have experience to reanimate in console try it
[10:05] <TheFuzzball> I obviously don't, considering I don't know what you mean
[10:06] <SummerRain> if not - then PC beeps and starts booting press 4-5 times key - Esc
[10:06] <TheFuzzball> right
[10:06] <SummerRain> you will see GRUB boot menu
[10:08] <SummerRain> there you can select something like save mode
[10:08] <SummerRain> aznpridechinese: - 42 % :)
[10:08] <aznpridechinese> glad you haven't forgotten about me =)
[10:08] <aznpridechinese> should i be using the bash shell?
[10:09] <SummerRain> use the default shell
[10:10] <aznpridechinese> which one is that?
[10:10] <SummerRain> how many experience you have in linux systems ?
[10:10] <aznpridechinese> practically none
[10:11] <TheFuzzball> SummerRain, you mean recovery mode?
[10:11] <aznpridechinese> but i managed to install it after 20 attempts, i have a raid setup and it just won't install so i disabled it from bios and it worked fine.
[10:11] <SummerRain> TheFuzzball: yes
[10:11] <TheFuzzball> kk
[10:12] <TheFuzzball> SummerRain, that just makes it boot without a bootsplash
[10:12] <SummerRain> it's only one solution except reinstalling
[10:14] <aznpridechinese> brb
[10:16] <SummerRain> aznpridechinese: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/config-desktop/C/index.html
[10:17] <SummerRain> aznpridechinese: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[10:18] <SummerRain> TheFuzzball: what is your decision ?
[10:19] <TheFuzzball> SummerRain, I'm gonna try and reinstall, but I don't want to loose all of my data
[10:19] <SummerRain> your data placed in ext3 partition ?
[10:19] <TheFuzzball> yra
[10:19] <TheFuzzball> yea*
[10:21] <SummerRain> you need to have an partition for data separated from Kubuntu's work partition
[10:21] <jarn> Are apic and acpi the same thing?
[10:21] <SummerRain> do you know how to manage partitions ?
[10:22] <TheFuzzball> my partition table is all messed up already, I have half of a 80GB HDD for Media (Music, Films) and the other half for my Kubuntu partition
[10:22] <TheFuzzball> and there both pretty much full
[10:23] <SummerRain> try to reorganize your partitions to prevent data loss
[10:24] <SummerRain> like in this situation
[10:24] <harmental> does anybody use checkgmail or gmail-notify?
[10:24] <harmental> which one is better?
[10:25] <TheFuzzball> SummerRain, yea also, neither of my wireless cards work with that knetworkmanager
[10:26] <SummerRain> harmental: I'm using checkgmail
[10:26] <harmental> SummerRain: thx....is it any good?
[10:27] <SummerRain> very useful
[10:27] <SummerRain> very simple
[10:27] <ubuntu> hi?
[10:28] <TheFuzzball> hi
[10:35] <aznpridechinese> summer the link you gave me is for ubuntu not kubuntu
[10:37] <jgonzalez> hi there, does anybody know where to change the default umask used to auto mount usb drives in KDE/pmount?
[10:37] <dseth82> greetings
[10:41] <dseth82> i've got a problem with my kubuntu (feisty) system, perhaps anyone has an idea, how to solve it? Whenever I try to upload anything to an internet server, it doen't work for any files larger than a few bytes. (for example pictures, to any picture-hosting-site or emails with attachments via kmail, as well as via a web-interface) Bittorrent does work and upload as usual however.
[10:42] <aznpridechinese> why is it that system settings/appearance kdm theme manager asks that changes in this section require root acces. click the 'administrator mode" button to allow modifications but there's no button anywhere on the screen that says administrator mode
[10:45] <see-g> aznpridechinese: it requires root access because the kdm is something every user sees (unless you configured your system in such a way that everyone has to start their own X) and the "administrator mode"-button might be hidden in a location where you have to scroll down
[10:46] <aznpridechinese> see-g:there's no scroll bar
[10:46] <aznpridechinese> see-g: i have the window maximized
[10:46] <see-g> aznpridechinese: and the "system settings"-thingy is not quite as ripe as the original kcontrol. Try running "kcontrol" and searching for kdm/login manager
[10:47] <aznpridechinese> where do i look for kcontrol?
[10:47] <see-g> k-menu -> run command
[10:47] <aznpridechinese> cool got it!
[10:47] <see-g> I don't think I've seen a button where noone set it up on his own...
[10:48] <aznpridechinese> thanks a bunch
[10:48] <see-g> you're welcome ... and I'm out of here, just a few hours of my free day left and the sun is shining (almost) :)
[10:49] <aznpridechinese> surf's up in a few hours here too
[10:49] <dseth82> nobody any idea regarding the uploading stuff? :(
[10:49] <see-g> sorry, I don't
[10:50] <dseth82> it's really depressing to have to switch to windows any time i have to send an email or so :D:D:D
[10:51] <see-g> it sounds like it might be a browser issue ... did you try a different browser than you usually do (e.g. konqueror instead of Firefox or vice versa)?
[10:52] <see-g> and that's all I can come up with on that problem...
[10:52] <dseth82> opera, swiftfox, konqueror, and in kmail it doesn't work either. gets stuck and says something about a time-out. but whats unbelievable, as i try many different servers
[10:53] <Lynoure> dseth82: and it is only about uploading, and only on browsers?
[10:53] <dseth82> nope, sending mail with attachments in kmail also
[10:54] <Lynoure> dseth82: you would not have some weird firewall mixup where you got things reversed by accident?
[10:54] <see-g> dseth82: unless someone can help you now ... when it's evening for me, i.e. in about 10-12 hours, it's getting much more busy in here - maybe someone more knowledgeable is around at that time...
[10:55] <jgonzalez> hi there, does anybody know where to change the default umask used to auto mount usb drives in KDE/pmount?
[10:55] <dseth82> hm. i don't know, as i didn't set up anything (at least i wouldnt know of)
[10:55] <see-g> I'm gone, bye
[10:56] <dseth82> i installed guarddog but didnt configure anything, is there a possibility to just reset and remove any possibly existing firewall setup? Some config file to erase or something like that?
[10:56] <Lynoure> dseth82: there is an option in guarddog for doing that, yes
[10:56] <Lynoure> dseth82: I cannot remember what it was called but it was plainly in gui
[10:57] <dseth82> okay i will have a look for it there, thank you :)
[10:57] <Lynoure> As you are pretty safe without firewall (nothing running behind your ports by default) it makes sense to try without
[11:04] <dseth82> lol that is soooooooooo weird. if the attachment is a few hundred bytes it does work. if it is 7kb for example it doesnt work anymore.
[11:13] <dromer> which dhcp client does ubuntu use?
[11:14] <aznpridechinese> can anyone help me install nvidia driver for 8800gtx? it says i have to do something to kernel or compile a kernel
[11:18] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: have you searched the forums? there are some great guides on how to do what your after there
[11:21] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_nvidia_feisty  go to METHOD 2
[11:23] <Juz_moi> how do I add a drive /dev/sdc to /etc/fstab with this uu stuff I'm lost
[11:24] <Ace2016> Juz_moi: don't need to use uu stuff
[11:24] <Juz_moi> just add it like I use to b4 the uuid stuff?
[11:25] <Ace2016> Juz_moi: e.g i have this:  /dev/hdc1       /Archive        xfs     defaults        0       2
[11:25] <Ace2016> yea just add it like before
[11:25] <Juz_moi> and it automaticly foonds the uuid?
[11:25] <Juz_moi> kwel
[11:25] <Ace2016> no it works without the uuid
[11:25] <aznpridechinese> why do you recommend method 2 right away ace?
[11:25] <Juz_moi> I'll try that
[11:25] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: you said you were using the nvidia driver installer from the nvidia webiste, or did i read it wrong?
[11:25] <aznpridechinese> yah
[11:26] <Ace2016> so if you want to install it from the nvidia site then use that howto
[11:26] <Ace2016> the method2 is about installing it from that site
[11:26] <Ace2016> make sure to print it or something
[11:26] <aznpridechinese> ok cool
[11:26] <aznpridechinese> thanks
[11:26] <Ace2016> when you kill the xserver then you won't see the guide
[11:26] <Ace2016> i made that mistake once
[11:28] <aznpridechinese> lol
[11:28] <dromer> can someone help me check my bootscripts? I don't want dhclient3 to turn on during boot, because I already have another dhclient
[11:28] <aznpridechinese> so if somehow i screw up this installation cuz it's my first time using unix/linux system will my xserver fail to boot?
[11:29] <dromer> aznpridechinese: if X fails te load you can always fix it from the CLI
[11:29] <jgonzalez> hi there, does anybody know where to change the default umask used to auto mount usb drives in KDE/pmount?
[11:30] <aznpridechinese> what is CLI?
[11:30] <rpedro> command line interface
[11:30] <aznpridechinese> ugh...
[11:30] <aznpridechinese> i don't know how to do that though
[11:31] <Juz_moi> how do I check  if a drive was formated ext3 or reiser ?
[11:32] <dromer> aznpridechinese: if you want to use linux, it is best to start learning to use the CLI :) it's very important! :)
[11:32] <dromer> aznpridechinese: and very handy, for when X fails to load ;)
[11:34] <dromer> so, can anyone help me turn off dhclient3 on boot?
[11:36] <aznpridechinese> dromer: yes i understand that, but where do i start to find out what to do with each command and how to group it with others and know what all the -n -L -f etc etc means
[11:37] <Ace2016> command --help
[11:37] <aznpridechinese> yah but i can't get help if i don't know what the command i need is
[11:37] <Ace2016> that gives a list which shows what -n and -v and stuff stands for, like -v in some apps is version and others its verbose
[11:38] <aznpridechinese> what does verbose do?
[11:38] <Ace2016> it gives more output
[11:39] <aznpridechinese> output of what?
[11:39] <Ace2016> some apps hide output to stop the whole window filling with stuff, but on a rare occasion someone might need to see that stuff
[11:39] <aznpridechinese> ah
[11:39] <dromer> aznpridechinese: start here http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[11:40] <aznpridechinese> cool thanks
[11:41] <mmcho> Juzmoi try 'mount' command
[11:42] <Ace2016> its strange really i hated the cli at first but now i do lots of stuff in it
[11:43] <dromer> haha, yeah it takes some getting used to, now I do most stuff except browsing on the CLI :)
[11:44] <Ace2016> dromer: that site is awesome
[11:44] <dromer> yeah, I have yet to read it, but it's good :)
[11:51] <aznpridechinese> i'm trying to install firefox but it says refer to release notes on how to install
[11:51] <aznpridechinese> i'm reading the thing right now but it doesn't tell me how to install it
[11:52] <dromer> aznpridechinese: which ubuntu do fou have installed?
[11:52] <dromer> Firefox should be installed by default ..
[11:52] <rambo3> how do i change size of kick start button ?
[11:52] <aznpridechinese> the 7. something something
[11:52] <aznpridechinese> fiesty
[11:54] <aznpridechinese> i know i have konqueror but aol doesn't support it and i'm trying to send the nvidia setup page to my other comp so i can print it
[11:56] <pag> aznpridechinese, you can install firefox by typing " sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox  " in konsole.
[11:56] <leks> hello everybody
[11:56] <leks> how to rename multiple files with one command?
[11:56] <dromer> aznpridechinese: what do you mean "oal doesn't support it" ?
[11:57] <aznpridechinese> i can't view my email with konqueror
[11:57] <aznpridechinese> it's not a supported browser by aol web mail
[11:57] <VSpike> leks: try mmv
[11:57] <leks> i have a folder with 23 avi files - tv series and i want them to have names from 01.avi -23.avi
[11:58] <VSpike> leks: or krename if you prefer a gui
[11:58] <VSpike> leks: can also be done with a bash script
[11:58] <Carlos_Slim> this is the plot of that wonderful movie star crossed its an american movie: Darren and Connor are two star-crossed lovers bound together by blood. Set in a suburban neighborhood, Star-crossed is an atmospheric story of two brothers who's relationship develops into something more than society could ever handle. Unable to deny their feelings for each other the two brothers try to hide their relationship from an unkind world but fail. T
[11:58] <Carlos_Slim> he boys decide that a world that cant understand them is a world thats not for them. <-- i cried at the end so sad :'(
[11:58] <leks> and i dont want to rename it manualy.. i believe there will be some easier way
[11:59] <leks> ok how to use this mmv?
[12:00] <aznpridechinese> yah sounds like a tear jerker
[12:00] <VSpike> leks: http://debaday.debian.net/2007/06/13/mmv-mass-moving-and-renaming-files/
[12:01] <VSpike> leks: there are also other suggestions for other tools in the comments on that page.  I've not really used any of them so I can't comment on the best one
[12:09] <k31th> AMD64 version works ok?
[12:09] <aznpridechinese> hey dromer i'm printing out the instructions on installing the nvidia driver, would you mind walking me through it as you're looking at the site as well? just in case i mess up?
[12:09] <k31th> or will it cause me hell ?
[12:09] <k31th> might as well use i386?
[12:09] <_Carlo_> hi, the battery icon in the kicker is disappeared, how can i restore it?
[12:09] <dromer> aznpridechinese: just apt-get install nvidia? or something like that .. you can also use synaptic, it's "easier"
[12:10] <dromer> aznpridechinese: what's the link?
[12:10] <pag> k31th, I'd suggest you to use i386.. x64 might cause some troubles with flash and other closed components
[12:10] <k31th> pag: that was it
[12:10] <k31th> flash
[12:10] <k31th> kubuntu is as stable as gnome?
[12:11] <aznpridechinese> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_nvidia_feisty#NOTES_SECTION
[12:11] <aznpridechinese> someone told me to use section 2
[12:12] <aznpridechinese> i'd do the apt-get thing but i want to make sure i get the correct version, cuz my card is fairly new nvidia 8800gtx
[12:12] <aznpridechinese> infact my whole computer is new, qx6800 2.8ghz overclocked to 3.6ghz ausus extreme striker mb and a sounblaster sound card that i haven't even setup yet
[12:13] <dromer> aznpridechinese: I don't have experience with the newer nvidia cards
[12:13] <aznpridechinese> in linux that is
[12:13] <dromer> mine is fairly "old"
[12:13] <dromer> your soundcard should work "outofthebox"
[12:13] <aznpridechinese> it doesn't
[12:13] <dromer> hmm, no sound whatsoever?
[12:13] <aznpridechinese> it's a sb x-fi extreme or something
[12:13] <aznpridechinese> nope
[12:13] <dromer> hmm, weird
[12:13] <dromer> well I'm more into acnient hardware, so i'm not sure if I can help you
[12:14] <dromer> aznpridechinese: who told you to use that page vor nvidia install?
[12:14] <aznpridechinese> if i type apt-get install nvidia and it turns out to be a wrong driver will my xserver fail to boot or can i reverse the process?
[12:15] <dromer> don't do that command yet
[12:15] <aznpridechinese> that other guy that was helping me earlier, you were talking to him too
[12:15] <aznpridechinese> ace2016
[12:16] <dromer> ok
[12:16] <aznpridechinese> i've got the whole thing printed and i got another computer next to me that is online so i can jump back into this channel when i start the install if neccessary
[12:16] <dromer> well I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I can't help you with your ultra new and fresh nvidia card ;)
[12:16] <aznpridechinese> LOL
[12:17] <RivaeAerya> I have the urge to try KDE, just because i kinda don't like GNOME's philosipy. But i've done so in the past and always ended up switching back to Ubuntu because it was more stable, more easy to use, and just gets the job done, without much clutter and hassle. But, if i try out KDE, (like in the past), it installs KDE alongside GNOME and it's hard to remove it and all it's libs, same thing for GNOME. Which messes up my computer pretty muc
[12:17] <aznpridechinese> so i shouldn't use the command you told me?
[12:17] <RivaeAerya> h. So, how do i safely try out kde, without messing up my computer or making any adjustments?
[12:17] <RivaeAerya> LiveCDs?
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> my kde crashes a lot
[12:20] <aznpridechinese> how do i find out what architechture i'm running?
[12:20] <dromer> aznpridechinese: naw, you need some specialized way, I found this though: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-nvidia-acceleration-in-feisty-nvidia-8800-and-legacy-users.html
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> cool i guess i'll give that a try and see if it works...
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> thanks
[12:26] <RivaeAerya> i have an Edgy version of kubuntu here. is it anywhere near Feisty in the stability department?
[12:37] <markrian> GNOME has a little helper app called gnome-open that takes one argument, the file you chose, and opens it with the appropriate GNOME app. Is there something similar for kde?
[12:37] <aznpridechinese> need help using vi editor in CLI mode
[12:37] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: method2 in my link and the one dromer gave you are the same, mine is just better since it backs up the xorg.conf and also its about kdm and not gdm
[12:37] <aznpridechinese> how do i type something in it?
[12:38] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: forget vi
[12:38] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: use nano,      nano filename
[12:38] <aznpridechinese> but i'm following the link
[12:38] <Ace2016> vi and nano are both text editors
[12:38] <aznpridechinese> ok
[12:38] <Ace2016> vi is a lot more complicated
[12:38] <aznpridechinese> how do i exit vi editor?
[12:39] <dromer> Ace2016: ah, didn't realise that
[12:39] <dromer> aznpridechinese: :q
[12:39] <dromer> aznpridechinese: press escape first, then typ :q  or :wq to save&quit
[12:39] <aznpridechinese> um... so i'm screwed now? cuz i'm up to sudo vi /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules*
[12:39] <msl> aznpridechinese: you can     sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules*
[12:39] <Ace2016> what howto are you using?
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> ummm
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-nvidia-acceleration-in-feisty-nvidia-8800-and-legacy-users.html
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> the ecs and q didn't work
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> it says it's recording now
[12:40] <twosouls82> lolren: why did you do that?
[12:41] <lolren> i want to see wat irc versions you all use
[12:41] <lolren> :d
[12:41] <lolren> i have jkust install
[12:41] <Ace2016> how do you get out of vi? i just opened it
[12:41] <lolren> linux
[12:41] <aznpridechinese> LOL @ ace
[12:41] <twosouls82> lolren: ask such things, that wasn't nice
[12:41] <lolren> and.. i dont know what mirc  i ise
[12:41] <lolren> twosouls82:  i did`nt know
[12:41] <lolren> :d
[12:41] <lolren> sorry
[12:41] <lolren> :d
[12:41] <twosouls82> np :)
[12:41] <Ace2016> well i always use nano, never could use vi
[12:41] <twosouls82> this time ;)
[12:42] <Ace2016> found it:   Type  :quit<Enter>  to exit Vim
[12:42] <lolren> :))
[12:42] <pCarsten> Ace2016: <Esc> : q <Enter>
[12:42] <msl> Ace2016: press escape to make sure you aren't in insert mode, and then type  :q!
[12:43] <lolren> can i put a qustion too? its about linux and sorry for my bad english
[12:43] <aznpridechinese> cool i'm out
[12:43] <Ace2016> thanks
[12:43] <aznpridechinese> sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules*
[12:43] <aznpridechinese> crap typed in wrong place lolz
[12:43] <msl> lolren: go ahead and ask
[12:43] <zoli> hau i instal beryl
[12:43] <lolren> how do i install java
[12:44] <lolren> mi list ar`nt up to date ( get list)
[12:44] <aznpridechinese> how do you save in nano? just ctrl x?
[12:44] <Ace2016> after you edit it, press ctrl+x, and if you made a mistake press n and enter to edit it, and go back into nano and start editing again if you want to save say press y and then enter to save
[12:45] <msl> lolren: You should     sudo apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[12:45] <Ace2016> after you edit it, press ctrl+x, and if you made a mistake press n and enter to exit nano, and go back into nano and start editing again if you want to save say press y and then enter to save
[12:45] <Ace2016> thats it, that makes sense
[12:45] <lolren> msl .... its not working i tried:(
[12:45] <aznpridechinese> ok i think i have it saved, now i need to reboot, i just type reboot in console right?
[12:45] <msl> lolren: you mean you can't update
[12:46] <Ace2016> don't forget the sudoupdate-alternatives  --config java
[12:46] <Ace2016> aztun__: why reboot
[12:46] <Ace2016> sorry
[12:46] <lolren> it says is already up to date something like dtaht
[12:46] <lolren> :d
[12:46] <Ace2016> oh he left
[12:46] <Ace2016> he should have just restarted kdm, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart would have done it
[12:46] <msl> lolren: then you should just need     sudo  apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[12:47] <msl> and perhaps    sudo update-alternatives  --config java    as Ace2016 said
[12:47] <lolren> msl can i paste what it says
[12:47] <lolren> ?
[12:47] <lolren> or in private
[12:47] <lolren> ?
[12:47] <pag> !paste | lolren
[12:47] <ubotu> lolren: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:47] <lolren> oot@Adelina:/home/lolren# apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[12:47] <lolren> Reading package lists... Done
[12:47] <lolren> Building dependency tree
[12:47] <lolren> Reading state information... Done
[12:47] <lolren> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[12:48] <aznpridechinese> ok just rebooted so far so good my xserver is still up
[12:48] <msl> lolren: which version of kubuntu are you using?
[12:48] <lolren> i install ubuntu 6.10 and then the kde
[12:48] <lolren> :D
[12:48] <lolren> i`m not so good with linux
[12:48] <Ace2016> apt-cache search sun-java  should show if its in the repo list
[12:48] <lolren> im a beginer
[12:48] <lolren> :d
[12:48] <SummerRain> aznpridechinese: hello !! have you found kdeartwork ?
[12:49] <aznpridechinese> no i haven't
[12:49] <lolren> root@Adelina:/home/lolren# apt-cache search sun-java
[12:49] <lolren> root@Adelina:/home/lolren#
[12:49] <SummerRain> me to
[12:49] <aznpridechinese> someone else just told me to use kcontrol to change my theme and it worked
[12:50] <aznpridechinese> but the theme i downloaded wasn't as good as i thought it'd be
[12:50] <lolren> sorry if i disturb i know that i am not the only one with problems but im disperate :)
[12:50] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: run glxinfo to see if everything is up and running
[12:51] <aznpridechinese> well i tried running sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and it tells me sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[12:51] <Ace2016> lolren: go to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list  you can open the file in kwrite, to be able to write to it open it using Alt+f2  and running kdesu kwrite
[12:51] <dromer> aznpridechinese: that' because you are not running gdm
[12:51] <Ace2016> and give us a link to it
[12:52] <lolren> i`l try 10x
[12:52] <Ace2016> lolren: do not paste the whole text file here, you will most likely get kicked out
[12:52] <aznpridechinese> so i should use kde?
[12:52] <lolren> ahamz
[12:52] <lolren> :d
[12:52] <Ace2016> dromer: now do you see why i gave him that link ;)
[12:53] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop     or start or restart depending on what you want to do
[12:53] <aznpridechinese> ok cool thanks
[12:54] <lolren> ace i pasted
[12:54] <lolren> :d
[12:54] <Ace2016> give us a link to it
[12:55] <lolren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28469/
[12:55] <lolren> this link
[12:55] <lolren> ?
[12:55] <Ace2016> yea thats it
[12:55] <lolren> :)
[12:56] <lolren> cool page :D i did`n know about that:)
[12:56] <dromer> Ace2016: yes, sorry, I didn't inspect it fully
[12:57] <aznpridechinese> ummm after i typed sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop all i got was a blank screw with no shell
[12:57] <Ace2016> lolren: remove the #  from line 16, 17, 26, 27, 31 32 and then save it
[12:58] <aznpridechinese> and i just rebooted the computer
[12:58] <Ace2016> aznpridechinese: press ctrl+alt+f2
[12:58] <Ace2016> and login again
[12:58] <lolren> oke Ace2016:)
[12:58] <Ace2016> lolren: then run apt-get update, then you can install it as before
[12:59] <Ace2016> lolren: you could also install synaptic, seems to be the best package manager, apt-get install synaptic and run it with Alt+f2 and kdesu synaptic
[12:59] <Ace2016> then you can search for stuff,
[12:59] <zoli>  how do i install beryl on ati 9200se
[01:00] <crube> I'm getting an error like this when trying to 'make' very often http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28470/ | This error came with universalkopete but it happens with many other ones too
[01:00] <Ace2016> zoli: you'll find the info here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[01:00] <crube> It doesnt really say anything
[01:00] <lolren> i have synaptyc
[01:00] <lolren> but it not finds java
[01:00] <lolren> :d
[01:03] <Ace2016> lolren: because synaptic didn't have the repo, not it does so it should find it, but you need to reload first
[01:03] <lolren> whats repo :-/
[01:03] <sebbar> hi, mp4 is proprietary as well right?
[01:03] <aznpridechinese> OMG OMG IT WORKED! i saw the nvidia logo when kubuntu booted up!
[01:03] <aznpridechinese> and now when i drag a window around i don't get anymore screen lag!
[01:03] <Lynoure> sebbar: I think so. But there is a vorbis video codec too.
[01:03] <aznpridechinese> thanks for the help gromer and ace!
[01:03] <aznpridechinese> now i need to setup my sound card =)
[01:04] <Ace2016> lolren: well the packages are in in repositories, we call them repos, they are specific to a distro and version, and for each ubuntu version there are different repos, and repos are divided into stuff like free and non free, you were just missing a set of repos
[01:05] <lolren> aa
[01:05] <lolren> :d
[01:05] <lolren> ahamz
[01:05] <lolren> :d
[01:05] <Ace2016> which repos synaptic has access to is determined by /etc/apt/sources.list and the ones with # in front of them are disabled, by removing that # you enable it
[01:05] <Ace2016> did it work?
[01:05] <Ace2016> is java installed now?
[01:06] <lolren> now i try
[01:06] <lolren> D:
[01:06] <Ace2016> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  and then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:06] <Ace2016> pick /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java from the lis
[01:06] <Ace2016> list*
[01:07] <lolren> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[01:07] <lolren> grr:(((
[01:07] <Ace2016> lolren: run sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <Ace2016> then try installing
[01:07] <lolren> i did
[01:07] <ardchoille> !search sun-java
[01:07] <ubotu> Found: java-#kubuntu, java
[01:08] <ardchoille> !java
[01:08] <SummerRain> I have a problem - filenames created in russian in Kubuntu displays incorrect in windows - like this = sometextinrussian.txt = #@$%%{}##!.txt
[01:08] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:08] <ardchoille> !info sun-java5-jre
[01:08] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 7287 kB, installed size 16168 kB
[01:08] <ardchoille> !info sun-java6-jre
[01:08] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6176 kB, installed size 14148 kB
[01:08] <pag> SummerRain, Ubuntu uses utf8 encoding, windows uses koi8-r(?)
[01:08] <lolren> u have kubuntu
[01:09] <lolren> ?
[01:09] <lolren> paste me your source list pls
[01:09] <lolren> :d
[01:09] <Ace2016> yae i was about to
[01:09] <lolren> and i replace
[01:09] <lolren> :d
[01:09] <SummerRain> pag: how to change codepage
[01:09] <ardchoille> !easysource
[01:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:09] <alexicon> hey is there anything about for capturing video streams?
[01:10] <Ace2016> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28471/
[01:10] <pag> SummerRain, there's encoding-setting in kcontrol (under fonts)  But I'm really not sure, which encoding does Windows use.
[01:10] <lolren> i generated source list from the page :D thanks
[01:11] <lolren> now i replace
[01:11] <lolren> Ld
[01:11] <SummerRain> cp1251 ?
[01:12] <pag> SummerRain, might be.. I never used russian in windows, so it's hard for me to tell. You could ask in #ubuntu-ru I think they know for sure  :)
[01:12] <ardchoille> lolren: You'll need to do this now: sudo apt-get upodate
[01:12] <lolren> its updating now
[01:12] <lolren> :d
[01:13] <SummerRain> pag: OH THANKS
[01:13] <pag> SummerRain, you're welcome :)
[01:13] <lolren> wooooooorking :*:*::*:*:*:*:*::*:**:*::*
[01:13] <lolren> many 10nx all :X:X::X:X
[01:17] <ubuntu> hi folks
[01:17] <Ace2016> hi
[01:17] <visham> i just installed kubuntu 7.04
[01:17] <SummerRain> hihi
[01:17] <visham> and accidently uninstalled kde
[01:17] <visham> can anyone help me
[01:17] <Ace2016> how did you uninstall kde?
[01:17] <visham> using adept
[01:18] <visham> now adept is also gone
[01:18] <crube> Does anyone happen to know if theres a way in Beryl to quickly see thumbnails of all the desktops?
[01:18] <visham> nothing left
[01:18] <pag> visham, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  wil install all the packages that should be installed :)
[01:18] <visham> right now i'm chatting using live cd
[01:18] <Ace2016> you just said you installed it, well if you messed it up its just best to reinstall, probably easier
[01:18] <visham> do i need to boot from hard disk
[01:19] <Ace2016> visham: can't you reinstall?
[01:19] <visham> and from hard disk apt-get isn't working
[01:19] <Lynoure> visham: not working = which error?
[01:19] <visham> reinstall whole of kubuntu
[01:19] <pag> visham, well.. you could chroot on your HD, but I guess at that point re-installation would be one of the easiest solutions
[01:19] <Ace2016> yea
[01:19] <Ace2016> reinstall the whole of kubuntu
[01:20] <visham> but i get the xserver running
[01:20] <visham> only kde is not there
[01:20] <visham> and i tried apt-get
[01:20] <visham> but couldn't install kde
[01:20] <boy> apt-get ?
[01:20] <Lynoure> visham: what error did you get?
[01:21] <boy> 
[01:21] <visham> it shows 0 upgraded 0 d/w blah blab
[01:21] <pag> visham, did you try to install package 'kde'?
[01:21] <visham> ya
[01:21] <visham> kde
[01:21] <pag> !info kde
[01:21] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:21] <visham> kde-desktop
[01:21] <visham> adept
[01:22] <visham> all failed
[01:22] <Lynoure> visham: just how did you remove kde in the first place? Sound a bit like you just deleted it instead of uninstalling :)
[01:22] <pag> visham, try installing kubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <boy> 
[01:22] <pag> !ch | boy
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Lynoure> pag: cn, you mean?
[01:22] <pag> Lynoure, I guess :)
[01:22] <visham> i tried to uninstall openoffice from adept but the entire kde thing got kaboom!!!
[01:22] <Lynoure> !cn | boy
[01:22] <ubotu> boy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:23] <Lynoure> boy: or feel free to ask things here in English.
[01:23] <visham> is there a way of installing kde from the live cd
[01:23] <boy> 
[01:25] <giuseppe> ciao a tutti
[01:25] <MidMark> my cdrom isn't detected, but I have installed kubuntu from the dvd, what can I do?
[01:25] <rambo3> i lost notifications area , how do i get it back ?
[01:27] <giuseppe> chi parla italiano?
[01:27] <pag> !it | giuseppe
[01:27] <ubotu> giuseppe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:27] <giuseppe> come ci si va?
[01:27] <rambo3> lu
[01:28] <Ace2016> rambo3: what notifications are are you talking about?
[01:28] <boy> exit
[01:28] <MidMark> giuseppe: click!
[01:28] <Ace2016>  /leave
[01:28] <rambo3> Ace2016,  where beryl manageer sits
[01:28] <Ace2016> boy:  /leave
[01:28] <pag> visham, well, as I said earlier, you can chroot on your hd, and then complete the installation, but that can get pretty messy if you don't know what you're doing.
[01:29] <rambo3> Ace2016, also program update notification
[01:29] <Ace2016> rambo3: right click on the panel, then add applet to panel
[01:29] <Ace2016> then add whatever you want
[01:30] <rambo3> Thats the problem . o dpnt know witch is it , cant find it in add applet
[01:31] <SummerRain> Who knows how to change filesystem  default codepage ?
[01:31] <Ace2016> so you mean you lost the system tray or the task list?
[01:32] <rambo3> system tray is there but cant
[01:32] <rambo3> se it
[01:32] <rambo3> see
[01:33] <Ace2016> strange, maybe the people at #kde will know
[01:36] <elbing> I have not sound with an Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02). there is an HSF modem with same identity in lspci, it's not important and I can't unplugg it from BIOS. Any idea?
[01:38] <alexicon> hrmm i swear beryl had sticky windows...
[01:38] <alexicon> whered that go
[01:50] <rambo3> kde why cant you be more like gnome
[01:51] <alzeih> Anyone else having issues with Kubuntu freezing randomly? Happens on a clean install, and seems like is times out on something then suddenly works again :(
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> rambo3: that would kinda defeat the point ;)
[01:51] <rambo3> why cant i move things on the panel ?
[01:52] <SlimeyPete> um... I can.
[01:52] <twosouls82> rambo3: because you locked it?
[01:52] <SlimeyPete> click and drag
[01:52] <alzeih> rambo3: right click on panel and see it it says unlock panel
[01:52] <twosouls82> right click it rambo3
[01:52] <SlimeyPete> yeah... right-click and unlock
[01:53] <rambo3> it was unlocked ,
[01:53] <mario_> hi every one
[01:53] <mario_> hi every one800*600
[01:53] <mario_> i only see 800*600
[01:53] <mario_> can anyone ehlp me?
[01:53] <mario_> help
[01:53] <ardchoille> !fixres
[01:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:54] <alzeih> Try making a new panel, adding applets/apps to it and see if you can move them. by panel i mean menu bar not a panel thou
[01:54] <alzeih> @rambo3
[01:55] <crube> !widgets
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <TechSalvager> TechSalvager> fudge I wish I could type CMD in ubuntu
 someone whats a run command for a local CLI?
[01:55] <SlimeyPete> konsole
[01:55] <pag> rambo3, you can drag object around byt middleclicking them. (or by rightclicking and selecting move)
[01:55] <SlimeyPete> that's the main kde terminal
[01:55] <SlimeyPete> TechSalvager: ^^
[01:55] <TechSalvager> !ati
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:56] <TechSalvager> yep
[01:56] <rambo3> pag so you can move your task list ?
[01:56] <pag> rambo3, yeah
[01:57] <crube> Is there a program I could use to have widget-like things on my desktop. Like a clock or a calendar?
[01:57] <TechSalvager> how about how can I search apt's repoistory ?
[01:57] <pag> crube, superkaramba
[01:57] <crube> pad thanks
[01:57] <crube> pag thanks
[01:58] <pag> TechSalvager, apt-cache search whatever  :)
[01:58] <rambo3> alzeih how do i add new panel ?
[01:58] <alzeih> TechSlavager: is this still by CLI ?
[01:58] <ubuntu> hi
[01:58] <ubuntu> can some one help me
[01:58] <pag> rambo3, rightclick on a panel and select 'add new panel'
[01:58] <ubuntu> i installed the nividia drivers and now i cant lunch the system
[01:59] <ubuntu> it only can open in kernel view
[01:59] <TechSalvager> alzeih, yes
[01:59] <pag> ubuntu, kernel view = command line?
[01:59] <crube> ubuntu: Did you make a backup of your xorg.conf?
[01:59] <ubuntu> yes command line
[01:59] <ubuntu> no i didnt
[02:00] <ubuntu> and i want to delet the driver from the kernel
[02:00] <ackbahr> Hi there!
[02:00] <ubuntu> delete*
[02:00] <pag> ubuntu, log in, type startx and look for errors.
[02:00] <ubuntu> yes it says that the driver is broken
[02:00] <faidillinger> can someone please help me setup a dig desktop on two monitors.
[02:00] <rambo3> pag no it didn't work
[02:00] <alzeih> TechSalvager: i havnt used it much myself, but i think "aptitude" will work if its installed
[02:01] <faidillinger> i am running kubuntu feisty, with a radeon 9250 with the opensource drivers
[02:01] <TechSalvager> wheres aptitude?
[02:01] <rambo3> middle mouse button is take by beryl so clicking with it wont do any good
[02:01] <rambo3> and i lost system tray so i cant switch to whatver kde uses for wm
[02:01] <pag> ubuntu, and if you want to change the driver, then type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv"
[02:01] <TechSalvager> can I install that um 3d desktop with a radeon 7500?
[02:02] <elbing> yes you can
[02:02] <alzeih> TechSalvager: if its installed it runs off the command line, just type "aptitude".
[02:02] <alzeih> TechSalvager: i think its more for browsing than searching, but I think it has a search option too
[02:02] <TechSalvager> elbing, can I install it though apt?
[02:02] <ubuntu> so whay can i do?
[02:02] <ubuntu> what*
[02:03] <TechSalvager> do I need to install ati driver first though?
[02:03] <Lynoure> elbing: but will it run to any satisfaction?
[02:03] <pag> ubuntu, look at my previous message.
[02:04] <rambo3> TechSalvager, no
[02:04] <rambo3> you run with aiglx
[02:04] <TechSalvager> rambo3, ok so should I leave it how kubuntu set it up and than just apt-get beryl?
[02:05] <rambo3> TechSalvager, search ubuntu aiglx tutorial
[02:05] <TechSalvager> aye
[02:05] <rambo3> !xgl
[02:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <alzeih> TechSalvager: once video drivers are working, "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu beryl-manager emerald"
[02:06] <TechSalvager> that whole line I take it
[02:06] <alzeih> yup yup
[02:07] <alzeih> TechSalvager: beryl-kubuntu has good defaults for kubuntu and installs most of what you need for beryl. beryl-manager is how to run beryl, and emerald is the theme for beryl
[02:07] <alzeih> afaik
[02:08] <TechSalvager> afaik?
[02:08] <aznpridechinese> question about installing a theme, i just got the fusion x metal 1.4 theme and i ran it like it asks in the readme
[02:08] <alzeih> as far as i know
[02:09] <aznpridechinese> it says copy files .....cp: cannot stat 'color-schemes': no such file or directory
[02:09] <aznpridechinese> what does that mean?
[02:09] <RivaeAerya_> how do i enable KDE's compositing?
[02:09] <pag> aznpridechinese, that it tries to copy something to non-existing place
[02:09] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, in ubuntu that would be custom theme for user but not as root
[02:10] <pag> RivaeAerya_, kompmgr  (it's really unstable)
[02:10] <aznpridechinese> so how do i fix it?
[02:11] <aznpridechinese> or make it work?
[02:11] <pag> aznpridechinese, could you give link to the theme.
[02:12] <rambo3> ah this cr*p. is there anything  in panel configuration that could lock stff
[02:12] <aznpridechinese> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fusion+X+Metal?content=44349
[02:12] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, by default learn to install themes in /usr/share/themes
[02:13] <rambo3> that way all sudo programs will have the same look as user
[02:13] <aznpridechinese> what would be the command to do that?
[02:14] <aznpridechinese> i just started using linux/unix so i don't know what i'm doing
[02:14] <crube> If I want to have my home folder on a different partition, does it work if I just create another ext and set the mount point to /home/
[02:14] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, you could copy theme dir there . sudo -i  ; cp ~-kde/themes?? /usr/share/themes
[02:15] <etalli> crube: yes
[02:15] <crube> etalli:  Ok thanks
[02:15] <etalli> crube: no proble,
[02:15] <etalli> s/proble,/problem
[02:16] <rambo3> missing / at the end
[02:16] <etalli> Whatever!  I mistyped twice in a row, sue me!
[02:16] <etalli> Does it really matter?
[02:16] <rambo3> echo "crube: no proble" | sed -e s/proble/problem/
[02:18] <aznpridechinese> i typed the command you told me but nothing really happened
[02:18] <etalli> fine.  you win
[02:19] <meson10> can anyone help me in backups?
[02:19] <RivaeAerya_> I'm using the livecd and KDE is really slow. is this normal?
[02:22] <crube> RivaeAerya_: Yes it is
[02:22] <RivaeAerya_> crube: alright
[02:22] <jgonzalez> does anybody know what's the magic behind automounting usb flash drives in kubuntu? is hald or KDE doing the mount? do they use a hald callout? is there any place where this can be configured?
[02:23] <TechSalvager> ahh snaps I screwed up my install
[02:24] <rambo3> i would have to guess dbus since i know 0 about it
[02:25] <rambo3> jgonzalez, it is HAL
[02:25] <aznpridechinese> how can i tell if i am a registered user in here?
[02:26] <jgonzalez> rambo3, so where can I configure the umask used to mount the filesystem?
[02:26] <TechSalvager> rambo3, thanks for the guide bhut alas I killed it
[02:26] <TechSalvager> snaps
[02:27] <jgonzalez> rambo3, I've been able to create a hal policy to change the umask, but only gets honored if I manually call pmount-hal
[02:27] <rambo3> jgonzalez, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL should be the same HAL ,
[02:29] <rambo3> why cant i move stuff on the panel
[02:30] <Lynoure> rambo3: you haven't rightclicked and chosen 'move'?
[02:31] <Lynoure> rambo3: if that is the cause, be comforted by it being quite common
[02:31] <RivaeAerya_> how do i get superkaramba?
[02:31] <RivaeAerya_> !superkaramba
[02:31] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[02:31] <leks> !mplayer
[02:31] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[02:31] <rambo3> Lynoure, no i cant move clock dont get move menu
[02:32] <VerbalKint> !vlc
[02:32] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:32] <Lynoure> rambo3: you need to click on the narrow strip that appears to the left of it
[02:36] <Lynoure> rambo3: found it?
[02:36] <leks> hi anyone knows how to get rid of button windows in mplayer?
[02:37] <leks> i have mplayer, not kmplayer installed but each time I open a movie by clicking, the button windows opens as well
[02:37] <rambo3> Lynoure, yes for the icons  . not for clock or main menu. Thanks
[02:38] <TechSalvager> how do I get the install screen when I installed kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <aznpridechinese> rambo the link you gave me is for ubuntu i have kubuntu and the commands dont work exactly as i type it, and i don't know how to differentiate between the commands in ubuntu and kubuntu
[02:40] <rambo3> rephrase that TechSalvager
[02:40] <SlimeyPete> TechSalvager: dpkg --reconfigure kubuntu-desktop     might work
[02:40] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, in command line ubuntu and kubuntu are same
[02:41] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, ah ok gedit
[02:41] <rambo3> aznpridechinese,  change gedit to kate
[02:42] <TechSalvager> SlimeyPete, nah it didn't
[02:42] <TechSalvager> startx still bombs out
[02:42] <SlimeyPete> dpkg --reconfigure x-window-system?
[02:42] <aznpridechinese> rambo3: can you send me that link again please
[02:42] <TechSalvager> not installed
[02:42] <rambo3> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> TechSalvager: sorry... x-windows-system
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> I always forget the s
[02:43] <spheard> Hi, in kde everything is a little bit corrupted, when I scroll, especially with firefox it all goes all blittery. Radio buttons, checkboxes and highlighted text. Its like nothing feels very comfortable on the screen
[02:43] <spheard> any Ideas?
[02:43] <TechSalvager> nada
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> spheard: sounds like a graphics driver issue. Are you using VESA by any chance?
[02:43] <spheard> Im not sure,
[02:44] <spheard> SlimeyPete: how do I check?
[02:44] <aznpridechinese> rambo3: it gives me this error xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: no protocol specified
[02:44] <TechSalvager> I may just reinstall from cd
[02:44] <aznpridechinese> (gksudo:9285): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: and some other stuff
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> spheard: take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  There's a "device" section which details the driver you're using.
[02:44] <glenn> Hi! Does anyone know how I can get rid of the drop-down arrow at the right of OPTION/SELECT forms, or direct me to a page or channes that does?
[02:45] <TechSalvager> nvm I got my video back
[02:45] <TechSalvager> yay
[02:45] <SummerRain> Please help ! How to format partition , delete , change type ?
[02:46] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, ok forget about that first line then
[02:46] <spheard> SlimeyPete: its using an nvidia driver
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> spheard: type fdisk followed by the path of your hard disk device (eg /dev/sda)
[02:46] <eagles0513875> hobbsee what is up
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> rambo3: i was thinking about then, then i typed the second line deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main and it gave me another error -bash: deb: command not found
[02:47] <spheard> SummerRain: 13:46:29) SlimeyPete: spheard: type fdisk followed by the path of your hard disk device (eg /dev/sda)
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> spheard: sorry, didn't mean you
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> hehe :)
[02:47] <spheard> np
[02:47] <SummerRain> ok
[02:47] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, type this  echo deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main"  | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <rambo3> and forget about first 2 lines
[02:47] <spheard> SlimeyPete: is there a generic driver that I can use that will just work?
[02:48] <SlimeyPete> spheard: to be honest, I would've thought the nvidia one would work. There is also a driver called "nv" which you could try.
[02:48] <spheard> thats the one its using
[02:48] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: it's dinner time!
[02:48] <SlimeyPete> oh right. In that case try the "official" nvidia drivers (available via the nvidia-glx package iirc)
[02:49] <aznpridechinese> it gave me this prompt >
[02:49] <spheard> SlimeyPete: just apt-get it?
[02:49] <SlimeyPete> they're non-free and I think they're in the Universe repository
[02:49] <SlimeyPete> spheard: yeah, so long as you have the right repositories enabled
[02:49] <SlimeyPete> spheard: back up your xorg.conf first though, just to be sure
[02:50] <Arthea> Hello :)
[02:50] <giuseppe> c' qualcuno/a disposto ad aiutarmi?
[02:51] <Arthea> ne avrei bisogno anch'io ma questo non e' un channel inglese ?
[02:51] <giuseppe> si scusami
[02:52] <spheard> SlimeyPete: It hasn't changed my xorg.conf. do I have to do a dpkg-reconfigure
[02:52] <SlimeyPete> spheard: no. just replace "nv" with "nvidia"
[02:52] <Arthea> giuseppe non e' a me che ti devi scusare :)
[02:52] <Arthea> Can i ask a few questions pls ? :D
[02:52] <rambo3> aznpridechinese,  echo 'deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main'  | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:53] <rambo3> aznpridechinese,  when you copy paste from irc "" turnes in some other character , i dont know why .
[02:53] <rambo3> aznpridechinese,  just delete "" and add your ""
[02:54] <Arthea> i'm not a complete illiterate but i'm a complete noob on kubuntu...and there are a few questions not covered in the faqs
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> i didn't copy and paste it i just typed it myself as i see you type it
[02:54] <ardchoille> !ask | Arthea
[02:54] <ubotu> Arthea: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:55] <lolren> hi:)
[02:55] <giuseppe> arteha dove potremmo parlare un attimo
[02:55] <lolren> have another question:)
[02:55] <aznpridechinese> rambo3: when i typed it it returned this deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main
[02:55] <Arthea> SATA drives are supported ? and i didn't see anything about playing videos and codecs for both videos and music ( aside for mp3)
[02:55] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, means ok
[02:55] <aznpridechinese> so what now?
[02:56] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, continue with wget
[02:56] <rami> how do i update my kernel?
[02:56] <SlimeyPete> Arthea: sata is supported, yes
[02:56] <SlimeyPete> some codecs are included, others are available via the package manager
[02:56] <Arthea> basically i'm just going to try it so i wanted to know if they are since i have only 2 250 GB SATA
[02:56] <Arthea> Thx :)
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> rami: ubuntu updates it automatically. If you want a cutting-edge version you need to compile from the sources you can get at www.kernel.org but BEWARE: you could mess up your system by doing so.
[02:57] <rami> ok.
[02:57] <Arthea> i use mostly FLAC,WV and APE for music and i use a lot h264 and Xvid for video's
[02:57] <lolren> who knoes how to put A  proxy in a vonsole to connect to ssh to another server?
[02:57] <rami> i''ve messed my computer up by installing kuxuntu, ubuntu xubuntu and adubuntu(silly me)
[02:57] <aznpridechinese> says wget: invalid option -- 0 gpg: no valid openPGP data found.
[02:58] <rambo3> ssh -C -L 8080:proxy:3128 user@gateway
[02:58] <spheard> SlimeyPete: its still pretty naff, anything else you can suggest?
[02:58] <lolren> thanx rambo
[02:59] <lolren> :D
[02:59] <SlimeyPete> spheard: hmm, not really, sorry. Try installing a different window manager eg fluxbox and seeing if that has the same problem.
[02:59] <rambo3> aznpridechinese, works here
[03:00] <Arthea> as for irc clients is there one already in the CD ( Desktop version 7.04) or do i need to find one ? ( now or later)
[03:01] <SlimeyPete> I think Konversation is included, but I'm not sure
[03:01] <Arthea> better get it then just to be sure ? :D
[03:01] <aznpridechinese> maybe i'm typing it wrong? it's suppose to be -0- | sudo apt-key add - right?
[03:02] <SlimeyPete> Arthea: if you have an internet connection it's easy to add software after installation, using the package manager(Adept)
[03:02] <lolren> ssh -C -L 8080:proxy:3128 user@gateway
[03:02] <lolren> why 8080?
[03:02] <lolren> :)
[03:02] <Arthea> supposing it works as soon i've installed it :D
[03:02] <lolren> and instead of 3128 iput my proxy porrt?
[03:03] <Arthea> as for that creating a remote conn (with a USB ISDN modem ...since there is no broadband here)
[03:03] <Arthea> should i try to find the drivers ?
[03:04] <Arthea> doubtfully there are for linux/u/kubuntu
[03:05] <Arthea> it was a pain to find the windows one's already ^^;
[03:05] <Arthea> since is kinda old
[03:06] <Arthea> in that case (if there are no drivers) how can i ,if possible, solve that problem ?
[03:07] <mauricio> hello!
[03:07] <Arthea> hi :)
[03:07] <jussi01> !hi | mauricio
[03:07] <ubotu> mauricio: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:07] <mauricio> could anybody help me?
[03:07] <jussi01> !ask | mauricio
[03:07] <mauricio> ubotu: hi
[03:07] <ubotu> mauricio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <mauricio> thnks
[03:07] <mauricio> ok
[03:07] <jussi01> !bot | mauricio
[03:07] <ubotu> mauricio: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:08] <mauricio> my system crashes when i start the X
[03:08] <jussi01> mauricio: which grapics card?
[03:08] <mauricio> and i got to switch in a terminal
[03:08] <mauricio> and then go back to the X terminal
[03:08] <neonlinux> mauricio: ati?
[03:09] <mauricio> NVIDIA 256MB
[03:09] <mauricio> it is happening after i installed restricted-manager
[03:09] <mauricio> and executed it
[03:10] <shane2peru> every time I stick a cd in, or some media, the little 'what do you want to do window pops up"  and it doesn't matter what I click it stays there.
[03:10] <lorenzo_> ciao
[03:10] <shane2peru> how can I get rid of it?
[03:10] <lorenzo_> is there any italian?
[03:10] <SummerRain> who knows what about NTFS in Linux ?
[03:11] <jussi01> !it
[03:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:11] <SlimeyPete> !ntfs
[03:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:12] <mauricio> jussi01: ubotu, do you know what is going on?
[03:12] <SummerRain> When NTFS will be writable by default
[03:12] <SummerRain> ?
[03:12] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to get rid of that media window that pops up?  Everything I click it doesn't respond.
[03:13] <lolren> !proxy console
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <mauricio> jussi01: ubotu, i am a peruvian, my native language is spanish
[03:13] <jussi01> !es | mauricio
[03:13] <ubotu> mauricio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:14] <mauricio> ubotu: if i am here, what do you think idid it?
[03:14] <Tm_T> !bot | mauricio
[03:14] <ubotu> mauricio: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:15] <mauricio> Tm_T: what is that?
[03:15] <mauricio> jajajaa
[03:19] <SummerRain> ubotu: -command selfdestracting
[03:19] <SummerRain> :)
[03:21] <ubuntu> anyone know a good KDE alternative for the Tomboy note taking application?
[03:22] <Lynoure> ubuntu: basket
[03:22] <Lynoure> ubuntu: It's actually nice enough that I wanted to contribute to it :)
[03:23] <ubuntu> Lynoure: i tried it but i couldn't find out how to use it :P
[03:23] <Lynoure> ubuntu: feel free to ask.
[03:23] <RivaeAerya> alright :)
[03:23] <Lynoure> ubotu: most of the time you just click on an empty area and start writing
[03:24] <RivaeAerya> ok
[03:24] <Lynoure> ubotu: and you can group notes by dragging over them and selecting "Group"
[03:24] <jjj> hello
[03:24] <RivaeAerya> ok
[03:24] <Lynoure> oops :)
[03:24] <RivaeAerya> :P
[03:24] <Lynoure> oh, it is you :)
[03:24] <RivaeAerya> yeah, on the kubuntu livecd
[03:25] <RivaeAerya> decided to try it out
[03:25] <Lynoure> I'll be away from the computer for a bit, but logging messages (and reading here when I come back)
[03:26] <RivaeAerya> ok
[03:27] <SummerRain> Everybody !! super partition program - qtparted
[03:29] <jussi01> SummerRain: and....
[03:29] <jussi01> SummerRain: I prefer gparted though..
[03:29] <fssssssssssh> anyone knows howto get fonts for open office? (times new roman) adept manager doesnt find any files to install :[
[03:29] <jussi01> !fonts
[03:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:29] <lorenzo__> it
[03:30] <lorenzo__> italia
[03:30] <fssssssssssh> hmm thanks but are these not system fonts ?
[03:30] <lorenzo__> italian
[03:30] <lorenzo__> italian?
[03:30] <jussi01> !it
[03:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:30] <jussi01> fssssssssssh: just install the msttcorefonts
[03:30] <fssssssssssh> okiii thanks !!
[03:36] <fssssssssssh> yippieh, works :)
[03:36] <RivaeAerya> I like KDE but i don't like the fact that ubuntu doesn't provide full support for kubuntu (in the sense of providing programs and the same features as the regular ubuntu)
[03:37] <nick_> hello! does somebody know how I can upgrade my kubuntu version
[03:37] <nick_> I now have version 6.06
[03:40] <RivaeAerya> why isn't there documentation for kubuntu feisty?
[03:41] <rambo3> its becouse you cant move things on the panel !
[03:42] <genii> Nick no direct upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04   If you want to keep all your stuff/settings you need to upgrade to Edgy (6.10) then to 7.04 from there
[03:43] <Lynoure> rambo3: almost everyone can. Hover your mouse over the icon or applet. A narrow band appears next to it, with a tiny arrow. Right-click that and choose "Move" from the menu.
[03:44] <Lynoure> rambo3: if that really does not happen, please report a bug with a screenshot of the hovering stage attached.
[03:49] <hollandlucas> hello
[03:50] <hollandlucas> After changing the language of liquid weather to German, I get the following when I try to put it on the desktop:
[03:50] <hollandlucas> ^T/home/lucas/Superkaramba Themes/lwp-14.7.skz/liquid_weather.py:3656: SyntaxWarning: import * only allowed at module level
[03:50] <hollandlucas> sys.path.insert(0, '/home/lucas/Superkaramba Themes/lwp-14.7.skz')
[03:50] <hollandlucas> Reading config
[03:50] <hollandlucas> sorry
[03:50] <hollandlucas> for flooding
[03:50] <hollandlucas> After changing the language of liquid weather to German, I get the following when I try to put it on the desktop: http://nopaste.info/dc93306b74.html
[03:52] <hollandlucas> I've already trief re-installing both superkaramba and liquid weather
[03:52] <hollandlucas> I've also tried deleting ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba but that directory does not exist
[03:53] <etalli> hollandlucas, I think that the superkaramba config files are in ~/.superkaramba, not ~/.kde
[03:54] <etalli> You could try deleting the lwp directory and the two lwp config files in that directory
[03:54] <hollandlucas> thanks
[03:54] <hollandlucas> deleting the directory
[03:54] <hollandlucas> helped
[03:54] <etalli> glad
[03:56] <hollandlucas> I think I've encountered a bug ;-)
[03:56] <hollandlucas> trying to switch to German results in the same problem
[03:57] <etalli> Liquid Weather is kind of buggy, I was having problems with it not more than 10 minutes ago :)
[03:57] <hollandlucas> any alternative?
[03:58] <etalli> nope, I think you'll have to live with it in English.
[03:58] <Riddell> ** meeting in 5 minutes #ubuntu-meeting
[03:59] <pag> Riddell, what meeting? :)
[03:59] <Riddell> kubuntu meeting
[03:59] <Riddell> all welcome
[03:59] <etalli> ooh, a meeting! With the developers, right?
[03:59] <Riddell> etalli: yes
[04:00] <hollandlucas> sounds great ;-)
[04:00] <etalli> cool, I'll be there, I probably won't say anything, but it'll be interesting
[04:01] <jermain> hello everyone!
[04:01] <hollandlucas> I don't think we're allowed to say anything during the meeting ;-)
[04:01] <jermain> :o
[04:02] <rambo3> how do i reset kde ? rm .kde ?
[04:02] <pag> jermain, you can speak here, don't worry :)
[04:02] <jermain> its okay i am jermain, the great narcissist. People will understand
[04:02] <jermain> :) ty pag
[04:02] <pag> rambo3, rm -r .kde would probably work better
[04:02] <babu>  how to change spaces between icons in kde. the desktop and file browser ones.
[04:03] <hollandlucas> I meant ubuntu-meeting
[04:03] <hollandlucas> I think it's a developer's meeting
[04:03] <jermain> in this channel? don't they have like,.. a special super secret meeting channel?
[04:03] <rambo3> Lynoure, it wassome themes that messed up
[04:04] <jermain> !nederland
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nederland - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <jermain> !netherlands
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netherlands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <jermain> err.. !holland
[04:04] <babu>  how to change spaces between icons in kde. the desktop and file browser ones.
[04:05] <jermain> ubotu has now lost 50px width wordth of respect in my eyes
[04:05] <pag> !ne
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ne - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <jermain> !nl
[04:06] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:06] <jermain> ahh ^^
[04:06] <jermain> 50px is restored
[04:06] <jermain> hallo!
[04:06] <hollandlucas> they do have their own channel
[04:07] <hollandlucas> #ubuntu-meeting
[04:07] <jermain> hmm icic
[04:07] <babu>  how to change spaces between icons in kde. the desktop and file browser ones.
[04:08] <jermain> anyway, can somone tell me how to install a .deb?
[04:08] <pag> jermain, right click on it :)
[04:08] <ardchoille> jermain: Which app is it? It may be in the repos.
[04:08] <jermain> its lives, a video editor
[04:08] <jermain> ty pag
[04:09] <ardchoille> jermain: Was this .deb made for Ubuntu? It's unwise to install .debpackages that wer5e made for other distros
[04:09] <jermain> its for ubuntu
[04:09] <jermain> or so it said on the site
[04:10] <pag> jermain, thanks for cookie :D
[04:10] <jermain> but i thought only debian based flavours used .deb and the others used .rpm
[04:10] <ardchoille> Ah, ok. Well, open a terminal and type: sudo dpkg -i /path/file.deb
[04:10] <jermain> any time pag :)
[04:11] <ardchoille> jermain: Yes, but installing .deb packages that were made for debian is not a good idea in ubuntu/kubuntu.
[04:11] <jermain> oicic
[04:11] <ardchoille> different libs/paths and all
[04:11] <ardchoille> Thank you :)
[04:12] <jermain> ^^
[04:17] <jermain> another question: does sudo dpkg -i /path/file.deb also install all dependencies? because i discovered the RMB way doesn't
[04:18] <llutz> jermain: it won't
[04:18] <jermain> no cookie for llutz; i only want good news ;)
[04:18] <llutz> that's life
[04:18] <eagles0513875> does anyone have a wiki or how to on how to configure sendmail
[04:18] <jermain> btw you helped me before with fstab, i wanted to thank you for it. I learned a lot about how it works now ^^
[04:19] <eagles0513875> jermain
[04:19] <jermain> yes eagles?
[04:19] <llutz> jermain: np
[04:19] <eagles0513875> would u like a link to a site that im setting up that has simplified how to's for various things
[04:19] <eagles0513875> its still a work in progress
[04:19] <jermain> yes please :)
[04:23] <eagles0513875> howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com
[04:23] <eagles0513875> i just started putting the site together yesterday afternoon what i have up is after bout 45 min
[04:23] <ardchoille> jermain: No, it won't install all deps.. that is why we have repos.
[04:24] <eagles0513875> jermain: there is a link on the bottom to site email and its open for suggestions and if u have links you would like to submit so i can simplify the how to
[04:25] <ardchoille> bug in upgrading from Feisty to gutsy tribe 2? Well, of course there will be flaws, it's still alpha.
[04:25] <etalli> !hi
[04:25] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:25] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:26] <eagles0513875> is the bug with adept notifier lol
[04:26] <eagles0513875> !sendmail
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <ardchoille> !postfix
[04:26] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[04:26] <eagles0513875> ty ardchoille
[04:26] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[04:26] <eagles0513875> i did find a huge bug when upgrading from feisty to gutsy using dist upgrade
[04:27] <ardchoille> There will be bugs, it's still in testing stages.
[04:27] <eagles0513875> lol ya i know
[04:27] <ardchoille> Bugs should be expected.
[04:27] <eagles0513875> but i havent encountered many when i did fresh install
[04:28] <eagles0513875> i did a dist-upgrade and adept notifier would crash causing alot of apport processes to pop up bogging down the system so badly
[04:28] <eagles0513875> knock on wood that hasnt surfaced in the fresh install
[04:30] <eagles0513875> jermain: what u think of my site
[04:33] <ardchoille> I think it looks promising
[04:34] <ardchoille> Just needs more content
[04:34] <ardchoille> The font could be smaller, but that's just my opinion.
[04:36] <nick_> hello! I've got the ISO file of the 7.04 version of kubuntu! is it possible to run the wizard and install kubuntu 7.04 without burning the iso file on CD-ROM
[04:36] <eagles0513875> nope nick
[04:36] <eagles0513875> firstly do u want to install it to ur hard drive or run it as a virtual machine
[04:36] <nick_> install it to my hard drive
[04:37] <eagles0513875> since its a live cd u have to burn it so it will boot of the cd first
[04:37] <drinkers1_> hello
[04:37] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: on the bottom of thte page click on the link and email me ur suggestions
[04:37] <eagles0513875> and if u have any how to's or wikis email them to me as well
[04:37] <drinkers1_> hello
[04:37] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Will do
[04:37] <nick_> i've burned it this morning but when I boot and select the option : "run live CD or install" ( or something like that) nothing happens and after a while an error appears
[04:37] <jermain> eagles: i havent seen a link. On the bottom of what is it supposed to be?
[04:38] <eagles0513875> its a hyper link
[04:38] <eagles0513875> it says if you have any suggestions
[04:38] <drinkers1_> hello man
[04:38] <eagles0513875> to the websites email which in turn will forward it to my gmail which i check daily a couple of times a day
[04:39] <drinkers1_> kik
[04:40] <drinkers1_> ai
[04:40] <drinkers1_> klo
[04:41] <drinkers1_> 123
[04:44] <eagles0513875> ardchoille and jermain feel free to give the link to my site to others
[04:52] <SummerRain> Problem with russian code page still remains
[04:53] <SummerRain> Who knows how can i change filesystem code page
[04:53] <SummerRain> russian filenames displays incorrect
[04:54] <SummerRain> russiantext.txt = #@#$%@!!.txt
[04:55] <SummerRain> sorry for my bad english
[04:56] <_4strO> !re | SummerRain
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about re - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <_4strO> !ru | SummerRain
[04:56] <ubotu> SummerRain:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:58] <dwidmann> SummerRain: in what program does it show like that? Konqueror?
[04:59] <SummerRain> yes
[04:59] <SummerRain> default filebrowser
[05:00] <SummerRain> dwidmann: how can i configure system ?
[05:00] <dwidmann> Umm, let me check
[05:01] <SummerRain> in amarok russian songs
[05:01] <SummerRain> also incorrect
[05:02] <SummerRain> may be solution in mounting parameters
[05:02] <dwidmann> It may also be locale settings
[05:02] <dwidmann> or encoding settings (should probably be set to utf-8
[05:03] <dwidmann> I've heard about that problem with amarok before even when the rest of the system was okay, I forget what the fix was though, I'll have to take a look around
[05:04] <SummerRain> 1992 - 
[05:04] <SummerRain> like this
[05:04] <dwidmann> What do you have the language encoding set to in settings -> configure konqueror -> fonts?
[05:05] <SummerRain> it set to "use language encoding"
[05:05] <dwidmann> Another good place to check things is to look at systemsettings -> regional & language
[05:06] <chrcoe> I have a question regarding sound drivers for onboard audio.  I have searched and searched but i can only find outdated solutions they do not seem to work for me
[05:06] <dwidmann> try setting it to utf8
[05:06] <dwidmann> that should be one of the options
[05:06] <hollandlucas> does anyone in here know of a good dock for KDE?
[05:06] <chrcoe> if anyone knows about cmedia cmi8738 stuff, i could use some help
[05:06] <dwidmann> hollandlucas: a good dock? Umm, I've only heard of a couple docks ... kxdocker was one, now what was the other
[05:07] <dwidmann> hollandlucas: kooldock maybe?
[05:07] <SummerRain> dwidmann: thanks
[05:07] <SummerRain> i'll try it
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> kiba dock?
[05:08] <gemidjy> anyone idea on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084747.0 ?
[05:09] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's not causing problems, it's not serious.
[05:09] <hollandlucas> okay
[05:09] <hollandlucas> thanks
[05:14] <gemidjy> why 'sudo update-rc.d avahi-deamon remove 2 3 4 5 .' doesn't disable the avahi-deamon ?
[05:15] <gemidjy> I tried with simple 'update-rc.d avahi-deamon remove' command, same result, avahi starting again
[05:16] <llutz> gemidjy: try update-rc.d -f avahi-deamon remove
[05:17] <gemidjy> llutz: yes, -f included
[05:17] <gemidjy> not working
[05:19] <llutz> gemidjy: change /etc/default/avahi-daemon
[05:20] <dwidmann> gemidgy, cd try running something like "sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*avahi-daemon*"
[05:20] <gemidjy> llutz: hah, thanks... any idea on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084747.0
[05:20] <llutz> gemidjy: no,sry
[05:20] <gemidjy> ok thanks
[05:21] <llutz> dwidmann: that's what update-rc.d already should have done
[05:22] <dwidmann> llutz: yes, what it *SHOULD* have done
[05:22] <dwidmann> manually removing the symlinks always works :D
[05:22] <llutz> dwidmann: i never have seen that failing
[05:22] <dwidmann> I have.
[05:22] <llutz> (without err-msg)
[05:23] <gemidjy> dwidmann: it is not debian-way manual removal, I know how to do it though :)
[05:23] <dwidmann> gemidgy, the command I mentioned above would have done it, and if you didn't get any error message it meant it actually did something ...
[05:24] <Edulix> hi
[05:24] <dwidmann> hi
[05:29] <aly> kde doesnt support synaptic package manager ?
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> aly: Adept is the manager for kubuntu. You can use Adept to install Synaptic if you like.
[05:30] <pag> aly, you are free to install and use it. It'll look rather ugly, but it will work.
[05:30] <aly> let me see it i can find adept
[05:30] <wsjunior> is there any way to hide the scrollbar of message windows in kopete to use mouse navigation instead?
[05:30] <SlimeyPete> aly: it's under "System"
[05:31] <rraajj> Anyone knows how to select a different audio track when playing a dual-audio video file in Kaffeine?
[05:31] <aly> got it thanks SlimeyPete
[05:31] <SlimeyPete> :)
[05:40] <dwidmann> rraajj: should be somewhere in the player windows right clilck menu
[05:40] <mim> what about this player
[05:41] <myha> Hi men, why in a Guitar pro i don't hear song?
[05:41] <myha> Kguitar* im sorry
[05:42] <devnull> Anyone know how to get emerald as the  window manager in compiz-fusion?
[05:42] <rraajj> dwidmann: I thought so too, but it isn't there, unfortunately.
[05:42] <mim> type it in terminal and look what it say's
[05:42] <dwidmann> rraajj: I've never done it with audio tracks, but I've flipped through audio channels in things like dvds without a problem anyhow
[05:43] <pag> devnull, emerald --replace  might work. You should ask in #ubuntu-effects they know better :)
[05:43] <fritz> hy...i have a problem, i;'m gettning a message from frostwire that i don't have the right to write to my hdd...any1 know the command to fix this?
[05:44] <devnull> that did the trick ^_^
[05:44] <mim> sudo ??
[05:44] <myha> can someone say me what i can repair sound in kguitar (mids)
[05:46] <chrcoe> can anyone help me with a sound problem I am having ?
[05:46] <myha> what is this problem?
[05:46] <chrcoe> well my cmedia isn't working
[05:46] <chrcoe> i can see that the driver is installed
[05:46] <chrcoe> and the system recognizes it, but i can't hear anything
[05:46] <myha> it was working earlier?
[05:46] <chrcoe> no
[05:46] <fritz> um.........any1 with helping me with my disk write right?:P
[05:47] <chrcoe> this is actually a fresh install of kubuntu 7.04
[05:47] <myha> sudo konqueror in console and than manualy change it fritz
[05:47] <chrcoe> i have checked forums and alot of people have problems with this same thing but all the solutions they had haven't worked for me
[05:47] <myha> maby you have 2 sound carts?
[05:48] <chrcoe> no
[05:48] <chrcoe> this is onboard sound only sound on the computer
[05:48] <chrcoe> it's cmedia cmi8738
[05:48] <myha> i have it
[05:48] <chrcoe> did you have problems getting your sound to work ?
[05:49] <myha> no
[05:49] <chrcoe> damn :/
[05:49] <myha> tell me what you have in sound system tab
[05:49] <chrcoe> everything else on the computer works great but with no sound, it is very boring
[05:49] <chrcoe> ok let me load it
[05:49] <myha> ok
[05:50] <chrcoe> under general i have enable sound system checked and run with highest possible priority
[05:50] <chrcoe> and auto suspend if adle after 60 seconds
[05:50] <chrcoe> idle *
[05:50] <myha> thats good
[05:50] <chrcoe> ok and under the hardware tab ... one sec
[05:51] <fritz>  Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[05:51] <fritz>   Major opcode:  145
[05:51] <fritz>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:51] <fritz>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:51] <fritz> Failed to open device
[05:51] <fritz> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[05:51] <fritz>   Major opcode:  145
[05:51] <fritz>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:51] <fritz>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:51] <chrcoe> audio device set to autodetect
[05:51] <chrcoe> full duplex is checked
[05:51] <ksivaji> !xconf
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <chrcoe> and that's all for hardware tab
[05:51] <fritz> this is what get on running sudo konqueror
[05:51] <myha> your settings are good
[05:52] <chrcoe> hmm
[05:52] <myha> you have anotheer OS?
[05:52] <chrcoe> some people said make sure nothing is muted through alsamixer so i did and and they are all unmuted
[05:52] <chrcoe> i have win xp
[05:52] <chrcoe> and it works fine in there
[05:52] <chrcoe> so i know it's not the hardware
[05:52] <llutz> fritz: not recommended, but: kdesu konqueror
[05:52] <myha> its first ubuntu run?
[05:53] <chrcoe> yea, i used to have and old red hat 7.3 and it worked back then
[05:53] <chrcoe> but this is first time i've had ubuntu on it
[05:53] <myha> my soundcart was working after system restart
[05:53] <chrcoe> well i'll restart and let you know then :P
[05:53] <myha> ok
[05:53] <chrcoe> brb
[05:53] <mim> kdesu if graphical interface for sudo, so why "not recomendet"
[05:54] <llutz> mim i never recommend use of konq as root, no need to do so
[05:54] <myha> fritz it was error but konqueror started?
[05:54] <mim> ok, using sudo and kdsu is similar
[05:55] <fritz> yeah
[05:55] <fritz> i had no problems untill a couple of days ago
[05:55] <fritz> when it stopped letting me write to disks :-/
[05:55] <llutz> fritz: those errors are caused by the wacom-entries in xorg.conf (if you don't have a wacom device)
[05:56] <fritz> huh?
[05:56] <fritz> isnt' there a simple comand to overtake wright privileges
[05:58] <llutz> fritz: ntfs or vfat device?
[05:59] <chrcoe> myha: no luck yet
[05:59] <myha> what abut kmix settings?
[05:59] <chrcoe> but i found somewhere that i need to have /etc/asound.state to unmute some stuff and make sure that the card is turned on through the software
[06:00] <chrcoe> and so when i went to load that up, it said i didn't have one !
[06:00] <chrcoe> ok loding kmix settings to tell you
[06:00] <fritz> ntfs llutz
[06:00] <llutz> !ntfs
[06:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:00] <llutz> fritz: ^^
[06:01] <llutz> !ntfs | fritz
[06:01] <ubotu> fritz: please see above
[06:01] <chrcoe> master is unmuted, PCM , Synth, line, CD and AUX all unmuted at 80% volume
[06:01] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | fritz
[06:01] <ubotu> fritz: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:02] <myha> huh, i must think
[06:02] <myha> one second
[06:02] <chrcoe> i went back to see if my sound settings were the same after reboot, and it put it on the ALSA only not autodetect hardware, so i hit autodetect and apply and it says restarting sound system and taking awhile, so i'll let you know if it fixes it
[06:02] <chrcoe> sure thing
[06:03] <chrcoe> about the asound.state file again .. it says to create a new one do alsaconf store .. when i do that it says unknown command
[06:03] <chrcoe> i think maybe if i could get into that file i could enable the sound but i can't seem to get it
[06:04] <myha> asound.state its unkown kommand in my pc
[06:04] <myha> command
[06:04] <chrcoe> well it's a file /etc/asound.state
[06:04] <chrcoe> some sort of config file, i dunno
[06:05] <myha> sorry, my fault
[06:05] <myha> is unkown file*
[06:06] <chrcoe> ah ok
[06:06] <chrcoe> hmm
[06:06] <llutz> it's alsactl store (not alsaconf)
[06:06] <chrcoe> something must be different somewhere between our systems if your's worked right from install and mine doesn't and we have same hardware
[06:06] <chrcoe> hmm ok lemme try that
[06:08] <chrcoe> hmm no luck yet :/
[06:08] <myha> tell what is in information center - sound
[06:08] <chrcoe> ok one min
[06:10] <chrcoe> hango n my system decided to hang
[06:10] <fssssssssssh> does anyone know how i can make a watermark in open office?
[06:11] <chrcoe> ok for some reason i can't load that up :/
[06:11] <myha> too bad
[06:11] <chrcoe> here's something i read how to manually restart the sound
[06:11] <chrcoe> dunno if it matters because i can't get it to work
[06:11] <fssssssssssh> got it=D
[06:12] <chrcoe> but they said do:  /etc/rc.d/init.c/alsasound start
[06:12] <myha> try it...
[06:12] <chrcoe> and then my system says unknown command alsasound
[06:12] <chrcoe> but it SHOULD start loading up and it there is a mixer problem it would say No mixer config in alsa mixer etc etc etc
[06:13] <chrcoe> but evidently my alsasound system isn't fully installed ?
[06:13] <myha> it sholud be...
[06:14] <chrcoe> when i did sudo apt-get install alsa ... it said i had the newest version
[06:14] <myha> type alsa in adept
[06:14] <myha> alsa have fev libraries
[06:15] <chrcoe> mind if i ask how to do that ? (in adept)
[06:15] <myha> write: alsa in "find"
[06:15] <myha> sorry
[06:15] <chrcoe> ok one min :P sorry
[06:15] <myha> write "alsa" in "find"
[06:16] <myha> you should have linux-sound-base installed too
[06:16] <chrcoe> ok
[06:17] <chrcoe> that's fullest version also
[06:17] <chrcoe> ok under the find for alsa i have :
[06:18] <chrcoe> alsa in subfolder /etc/apm/scripts.d/
[06:18] <chrcoe> a couple others listing them out
[06:18] <chrcoe> alsa in /etc/default
[06:18] <chrcoe> also in /usr/share and /usr/share/sounds
[06:18] <chrcoe> and in /usr/src and lastly /var/lib
[06:18] <myha> no "find" in kmeny, find in adept
[06:18] <myha> kmenu*
[06:19] <chrcoe> so don't search using the find under the menu?
[06:19] <myha> you must search it in respisitories
[06:19] <chrcoe> sorry i've never used adept, so i don't know where to find it :/
[06:19] <myha> or something but i hav polish system
[06:20] <Ace2016> install synaptic its better than adept
[06:20] <chrcoe> hmm
[06:20] <myha> kmenu > system > adept
[06:20] <Ace2016> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:20] <houdini> hi,everybody. i'm a kubuntu 6.10 user. i did a lots of customization on Edgy and it works well. So i wonder 6.10 -> 7.04 is a worthy upgrade?
[06:20] <Ace2016> then Alt+F2 > kdesu synaptic
[06:22] <myha> Ace2016 its your own opinion?
[06:22] <busfahrer> houdini: It depends I guess. For me, I wanted Amarok 1.4.5
[06:24] <chrcoe> hmm well i found a bunch of stuff when i typed in alsa in adept
[06:24] <chrcoe> the base drivers and such were installed but alot of the other alsa stuff wasn't installed
[06:24] <myha> you need only fev ... wait
[06:25] <myha> few
[06:25] <houdini> busfahrer: thx, i'll give Feisty a try
[06:25] <chrcoe> ok
[06:25] <busfahrer> houdini: For me, also the Upgrade did not work, I had to do a reinstall. But I used Ubuntu with KDE installed manually, so, I don't know :-)
[06:26] <myha> alsa-base, alsa-utils, libasound2, libesd-alsa0
[06:26] <chrcoe> ok let me try those one sec
[06:27] <myha> libsdl1.2debian-alsa, linux-sound-base
[06:28] <ackbahr> Hello everyone there. I there a way to edit what's in the right-click menus in Kubuntu? I keep using "send to trash" (or whatever it's in the English version) instead of "remove safely" (a Mac habit?) for my USB drive, and deleting all my stuff (without any way to abort it, of course).... So I'd like to remove this choice from the menu related to mount points icons. Any idea?
[06:29] <chrcoe> myha i have all of those already :/
[06:30] <myha> try again open information center
[06:30] <myha> or i give up, im not very advanced user
[06:30] <chrcoe> heh one more try on info center
[06:31] <ackbahr> myha: Don't give up : with some good help you'll be able to do it, and this way you'll be slightly more advanced than before! ;)
[06:31] <chrcoe> heh well he's sound IS working :/
[06:31] <chrcoe> mine's being an ass heh
[06:32] <chrcoe> ok under infocenter
[06:32] <myha> type "lspci" in console
[06:32] <chrcoe> says installed drivers: tpye 10:ALSA emulation
[06:32] <chrcoe> ok
[06:32] <myha> its good
[06:32] <chrcoe> i remember doing somethign with that before but lemee try again
[06:33] <chrcoe> what do you want to know ? the multimedia ?
[06:33] <myha> and find multimedia audio controller
[06:33] <myha> yes
[06:34] <godlkwrth> wow xorg network traffic is incredible, sometimes 10megabit isn't enough
[06:34] <godlkwrth> (uncompressed)
[06:35] <myha> and if something else in information center? cart configuration? mixers? audio devicesZ?
[06:40] <melkor> does anybody here use python-gtk ?
[06:42] <myha> sorry man, i must go
[06:42] <myha> bye then
[06:42] <lovely> hello
[06:47] <alexander> Hello
[06:49] <alexander> does anybody know how to download the ports for freebsd?
[06:52] <genii> alexander Freebsd site usually has a tarball of all the current ports. This channel is for kubuntu. are you trying to run/make some port for ubuntu from a freebsd tarball?
[06:54] <fr05t> ?
[06:54] <fr05t> Salut
[06:56] <llutz> alexander: install portsnap, makes ports easy to handl
[06:56] <llutz> e
[06:56] <alexander> hallo genii no, i try to install linux-openssl for freesbe
[06:56] <genii> alexander The ubuntu distribution uses the debian packaging method unless you are making from source. But if you try to make a program from a bsd port, it will not work because the ports are specifically set up for that platform
[06:56] <fritz> why won't it allow me to write to a partition...it says the owner is root, but i can't make any changes on it:(
[06:56] <lovely> does anyone know why my package manager would, part of the time, not completly close or what other item could be utilizing the repositories on automatic? some of the time I am unable to upgrade as s"something else is using ... something" and all I can do is see what I have. this happens sometimes ater restarting the computer as well as ,seemingly, random times.
[06:57] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | fritz
[06:57] <pag> !fixadept | lovely
[06:57] <fritz> i did that llutz
[06:57] <ubotu> fritz: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:58] <ubotu> lovely: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:58] <fritz> and all the other ntfs drives are functional
[06:58] <genii> alexander  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL
[06:58] <fritz> just this one on which I have the most free space 4 downloads isn't responding to it:(
[07:00] <lovely> aparently my mythtv database isne set up yet. thnx
[07:01] <fritz> how can i be sure i'm running everything as administrator?
[07:02] <ardchoille> use sudo
[07:02] <ardchoille> or use kdesu for gui apps
[07:02] <melkor> fritz how did you mount the partition?
[07:03] <fritz> yes
[07:03] <fritz> all the ntfs partitions
[07:03] <fritz> are up and running
[07:03] <fritz> and i can write to them
[07:03] <fritz> except this one
[07:04] <melkor> did you use fstab to mount the partition?
[07:05] <fritz> i used an autoscript i found on the ubuntu forum
[07:05] <fritz> but all the other ntfs's are working fine...
[07:05] <ardchoille> !enter | fritz
[07:05] <ubotu> fritz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:05] <Dr_willis> compare the fstab entries?
[07:06] <fritz> what?
[07:06] <melkor> fritz make an entry in the file fstab corresponding to that drive... do you know what /dev/hd? file it is?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> look at the fstab entries for the ones that work.. and the ones that dont work
[07:06] <Dr_willis> check the output of 'mount' see how they are mounted also
[07:07] <fritz> i;m a bit newby...so please tell me where to find fstab and how to do that melkor
[07:08] <melkor> fritz first I would say type df
[07:08] <Dr_willis> The /etc/fstab (short for filesystem tables) file is a text file that lists the filesystems to mount when your computer starts.
[07:08] <ardchoille> fritz: I would advise you to do this first:  sudp cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup
[07:09] <fritz> ok done
[07:09] <Dr_willis> without the typo. :)
[07:09] <kavia> hi
[07:09] <kavia> I have a problem
[07:09] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: yeah :(
[07:09] <fritz> now what?
[07:10] <Dr_willis> kavia,  and the details are?
[07:10] <kavia> my cdrom isn't recognized
[07:10] <melkor> did you get the device name?
[07:10] <kavia> but when installed it was used for the dvd
[07:10] <kavia> so it's very strange
[07:10] <jesus__> hola a todos
[07:10] <jesus__> hello everybody
[07:10] <kavia> melkor: what?
[07:11] <kavia> ah device model and vendor?
[07:11] <fritz> no melkor
[07:11] <fritz> nothing happend when i hit that command in konsole
[07:11] <Dr_willis> kavia,   for a start check media:/ in the konqueror file manager ? see if it sees the cd.
[07:11] <melkor> fritz when you type df it should show you a list of disks and how much space is used
[07:11] <melkor> fritz you chould also try 'mount'
[07:12] <kavia> Dr_willis: in media:/ there are only partitions created by me during installation
[07:12] <fritz> this is the name /dev/hdb5
[07:12] <fritz> this is the partition that won't allow me to write to it
[07:12] <melkor> fritz in my fstab I have the line:
[07:13] <melkor> '/dev/hda1 /media/oldshit auto rw,user,noauto 0 0'
[07:13] <Dr_willis> kavia,  interesting.   whatl doess                      ls -l /dev/cdrom         show?
[07:13] <photon_> Whenever I load a gtk application, it isn't styled properly in kubuntu. However if I fire gnome-control-center and click themes, then everything works fine for that session. Any idea how I could permanently set gtk apps to style properly?
[07:13] <kavia> Dr_willis: no such file or directory
[07:13] <Dr_willis> noauto - the device MUST be manually mounted.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> kavia,  interesting. THis is a normal desktop machine?
[07:13] <fritz> this is what i got when i hit df in konsole
[07:14] <fritz>  /dev/hdb5             20569152  14072720   6496432  69% /media/hdb5
[07:14] <kavia> no it's a notebook, drive is a lite-on
[07:14] <fritz> melkor?
[07:14] <melkor> fritz so you probably want to add the line
[07:14] <fritz> add it where?
[07:14] <ivan99> Hi all, just installed kubuntu gutsy.. and didn't find a way to enable the 3d desktop effects.. i'm using an integrated intel graphics card
[07:14] <melkor> '/dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0'
[07:14] <melkor> fritz to the file /etc/fstab
[07:15] <melkor> fritz also check to see if a line for /dev/hdb5 already exists
[07:15] <fritz>  /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[07:15] <kavia> Dr_willis: it's a hal problem? udev?
[07:15] <fritz> this is what i have on it
[07:15] <fritz> there
[07:16] <Dr_willis> kavia,  Hmm..  could try to mount it manually. IF ya can figure out what device it is.
[07:16] <melkor> fritz is it a vfat files system?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> kavia,  sudo fdisk -l     should show all seen drives/devices
[07:16] <llutz> fritz:  so thats vfat not ntfs
[07:16] <fritz> oh...so i see...
[07:17] <melkor> fritz try changing it from vfat to auto
[07:17] <fritz> in fstab?
[07:17] <fritz> just rewrite vfat to auto?
[07:17] <melkor> fritz first try to umount /dev/hdb5 so it isn't mounted
[07:17] <kavia> Dr_willis: nothing it has only /dev/sda1, 2, 5, 6, 7 that are all partitions
[07:17] <kavia> nothing else
[07:17] <alac> algum brasileiro??
[07:18] <fritz> ...umm...how do i do that?
[07:18] <lovely> anyone know howto get to the mysql database to set up for mythtv?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> kavia,  odd. so the system isent seeing the cdrom drive at all.
[07:18] <melkor> fritz with a text editor, you have to be root, so you might try; sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:18] <fritz> ok and after?
[07:18] <melkor> fritz to unmount the drive try 'umount /dev/hdb5'
[07:19] <kavia> Dr_willis: it's the first time that happens for me with kubuntu, also I continue to not understand why drive was ok for alternate installation
[07:20] <Dr_willis> kavia,  could boot the livecd and see what its seeing.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> may be needing some kernel boot option with that specific laptop
[07:20] <kavia> Dr_willis: ok good idea
[07:20] <kavia> thanx
[07:21] <fritz> ok melkor
[07:21] <fritz> now it appears like the partition is empty
[07:21] <fritz> what next?
[07:21] <melkor> fritz did you edit your fstab file?
[07:21] <fritz> no
[07:21] <aaron> orville
[07:22] <aaron> puma
[07:22] <fritz> what exactly to change
[07:22] <fritz> ?
[07:22] <melkor> fritz how did you make the partition?
[07:22] <aaron> sorry, just checking something
[07:22] <aaron> :-)
[07:22] <fritz> it was created with the windows tool
[07:22] <fritz> but now it's unmounted
[07:23] <melkor> windows xp?
[07:23] <fritz> yea
[07:23] <fritz> the thing is it worked fine untill 2 days ago
[07:23] <fritz> and i thought it was just a sistem glych
[07:23] <fritz> i have other fat32 partitions
[07:24] <fritz> and they're all working fine...
[07:24] <melkor> fritz edit the file change the word vfat to auto, then type 'mount /dev/hdb5
[07:24] <llutz> melkor: that makes no sense if it is vfat/fat32
[07:24] <melkor> fritz if it says you must be root, something is wrong.
[07:24] <genii> bleh, this is likely more of a KDE question but... any way to just minimize the "find" panel?
[07:24] <llutz> melkor: why should the kernel probe a known fs?
[07:24] <genii> (for konqueror)
[07:24] <melkor> llutz, I don't really know what file system win xp uses,
[07:25] <llutz> melkor: vfat/ntfs
[07:25] <ardchoille> it's either vfat or ntfs, isn't it?
[07:25] <fritz> thanx melkor
[07:25] <melkor> did he say that he was having problems with permissions
[07:25] <fritz> it works now:D
[07:26] <fritz> can i do that for the other partitions as well?
[07:26] <fritz> in case i have the same problem?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> XP normally uses ntfs whenever it can.
[07:26] <melkor> dunno
[07:26] <llutz> fritz: can you please paste the output of "mount|grep hdb5"
[07:27] <melkor> I was just telling you what I put in my fstab to mount a partition
[07:27] <fritz> it didn't give any output
[07:27] <fritz> it just loaded the partition:)
[07:27] <llutz> fritz: then its still not mounted
[07:27] <fritz> well it seems to be working now:-/
[07:28] <melkor> can  you change directories to the disk?
[07:28] <melkor> cd /media/hdb5
[07:28] <llutz> if "mount|grep hdb5" is empty, theres nothing mounted and hes working in the mount-point-dir on root-fs
[07:29] <fritz> no crap
[07:29] <fritz> i had the create new option
[07:29] <fritz> but when i tryed to create a new folder it said "failed to create"
[07:29] <Dr_willis> i always put a empty file called somthing like 'This_Drive_is_Not_mounted' in /media/hda3  and so forth.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:29] <fritz> and now i seem to be back where i started
[07:29] <alain> comment faire pour que Konversation soit automatiquement lanc au login d'un utilisateur?
[07:29] <fritz> :-<
[07:29] <llutz> fritz: mount /media/hdb5
[07:30] <llutz> fritz: after that: "mount|grep hdb5"
[07:31] <fritz> now it;'s mounted
[07:31] <fritz> but again i don't have write privileges to it..:-<
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:31] <llutz> fritz: can you please paste the output of "mount|grep hdb5"
[07:31] <melkor> what do you get when you type 'mount | grep hdb5'
[07:32] <melkor> do you know what the | symbol is?
[07:32] <aaron> melkor: pipe
[07:32] <fritz>  /dev/hdb5 on /media/hdb5 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[07:32] <fritz> there,,,that's the output
[07:32] <Dr_willis> dont ya want a umask= option?
[07:32] <aaron> melkor: A | B
[07:32] <fritz> llutz?
[07:33] <melkor> What sort of shell are you in?
[07:33] <llutz> fritz: mount -o remount,rw uid=1000 /media/hdb5
[07:33] <aaron> melkor: pipe output from A as input to B
[07:33] <llutz> fritz: mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /media/hdb5          sry
[07:33] <melkor> aaron thanks
[07:34] <fritz> yes
[07:34] <fritz> now it;s working
[07:34] <fritz> i could edit it:)
[07:34] <fritz> can you give me the ideea behind all this
[07:35] <fritz> so i can do it in the future if it doesen't work llutz?
[07:35] <llutz> fritz: edit fstab again, make the line like this: /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 vfat rw,user,uid=1000,umask=000 0 0
[07:35] <llutz> fritz: that gives full access to vfat-partition for ALL users
[07:36] <ardchoille> fritz: Remember, you have a backup of fstab at /etc/fstab.backup . once your /etc/fstab is working, you can remove the backup if you want.
[07:36] <fritz> llutz: what do you mean  edit the fstab?
[07:36] <melkor> is that the uid=1000?
[07:36] <llutz> melkor: thats the user-id
[07:36] <llutz> fritz: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:36] <fritz> aha
[07:36] <fritz> gotcha
[07:36] <fritz> :)
[07:37] <melkor> llutz doesn't it seem like the 'user' option should work?
[07:37] <Dr_willis> If it come to the 'what do you mean edit ....'  - then its time to read a few linux beginner guides.. and come back later. :)
[07:37] <ubsafder> how can i enable the usage of a swap artition at boot time
[07:38] <llutz> melkor: read man mount  for more info. user/users is something different
[07:38] <fritz> thanx llutz...now i have space for donwloading again:))
[07:38] <ubsafder> i mean when i boot my ubuntu it is not using my swap partition by default
[07:38] <llutz> melkor: it just enables users to mount/umount something but hasn't anything to do with right-management
[07:39] <melkor> llutz: whereas the udi=  lets you set the permissions of the mounted directory?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> ubsafder,  check the fstab file. see if theres a entry for it in there.
[07:39] <llutz> ubsafder: add a line like the follwoing to your /etc/fstab, change UUID to yours: UUID=2e3cd41f-d8bc-4f00-af03-c2b55e47340b none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:40] <aaron> alain: do you still need help?
[07:40] <llutz> melkor: uid=1000 mounts the device as user with id=1000, which is the 1. default user in kubuntu
[07:41] <llutz> melkor: default umask is 022, so the user has all rights to write/execute/read on device.
[07:41] <aaron> alain: as tu decouvert une solution?
[07:42] <ubsafder> how do i find my uid
[07:42] <llutz> ubsafder: blkid
[07:43] <llutz> melkor: the other way is to change the umask when mounting (or a combination of all that) ;)
[07:43] <melkor> It seems odd that it switched for him, like maybe he ran his 'script' as root
[07:43] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[07:43] <Dr_willis> or use the old /dev/hdb# style nameing
[07:44] <miketalanca> I'm having trouble trying to install drivers for an Nvidia card on Kubuntu. I tried both Envy and Automatix and neither seems to install the drivers properly. Can someone help please?
[07:45] <llutz> melkor: the easiest thing is: do not use non-linux filesystems and manage rights with chmod/chown and use groups :)
[07:45] <alain> non, j'ai pas de solution, je cherche simplement une aide
[07:45] <melkor> llutz, too true, although getting any fs mounted right in the first place save some trouble.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> miketalanca,  if youve tried  envy and automatix, your system is proberly in a confused state. what is not working Properly is the big question.
[07:46] <Dj_FlyBy> can anyone in here point me in the direction of how to enable rdp
[07:46] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive set the hostname, Ive set the domainname, but the other computers on the network still cant see the Linux Machine
[07:47] <ubsafder> ok thanks   guys i changed my fstab i will reboot to check if workin
[07:47] <_V> He's tried to install both of those, but neither of them successfully installed. He ended up getting the drivers from the repository.
[07:47] <miketalanca> But the drivers from the repos didnt work.
[07:47] <Dr_willis> 'dident work' = clarify what dident work.
[07:48] <Dr_willis> miketalanca,  also what is your video card?
[07:48] <jussi01> !doesnt work
[07:48] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:48] <_V> His video card is a BFG GeForce 6200, iirc.
[07:48] <miketalanca> when i would start up... it would go to a screen where the colors on top were screwy and the bottom was black and white stripes
[07:48] <Dr_willis> a 6200 should work with the normal repo nvidia-glx  packages.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> That sounds almost like a Monitor setting problem.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> this a LCD monitor? or crt?
[07:49] <_V> CRT
[07:50] <Dr_willis> Its possible the thing is trying to send out a signal/rate/ that the crt cant handle.
[07:50] <miketalanca> would an lcd handle it then?>
[07:50] <Dr_willis> lcd's tend to be a bit more sane.
[07:51] <miketalanca> cuz i was at _V's house cuz he is better with linux than me and he doesnt have an lcd
[07:51] <Dr_willis>  most newer monitors also   work better, handle the different info better, and they give the right info back to the video card.
[07:52] <miketalanca> ok... well my lcd monitor is about 10 years newer than his crt lol
[07:52] <Dr_willis> Heck. My 'monitor' line is all of....
[07:52] <Dr_willis> Section "Monitor"
[07:52] <Dr_willis> 	Identifier	"SyncMaster"
[07:52] <Dr_willis> 	Option		"DPMS"
[07:52] <Dr_willis> EndSection
[07:52] <Dr_willis> Thats for my LCD>
[07:52] <Dr_willis> ITs amazing how much better new things work.     - I would guess using that OLD a monitor . is the issue.
[07:53] <pparker> hi i'm running feisty and hcitool don't see my dongle
[07:53] <pparker> any help is welcome
[07:53] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[07:53] <miketalanca> alright thanks Dr_willis
[07:54] <llutz> pparker: bluetooth?
[07:54] <pparker> llutz: exactly
[07:55] <alain> [19:40]  <aaron> alain: do you still need help?
[07:55] <vzduch> Dr_willis: still the autodetection in *buntu is way behind that of other Linuxen
[07:55] <Dr_willis> vzduch,  ive found it to be the opposite..
[07:55] <vzduch> at least when it comes to monitors
[07:55] <aaron> alain: ma francais est terrible
[07:55] <Dr_willis> but then again,,. if it sees all the stuff i got. :) how can ya really compare.
[07:55] <aaron> alain: mais, tu a besoin de ajouter une "link" dans ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:55] <Dr_willis> Not much detection with my lcd it seems.
[07:56] <SillyZ> woohoo kubuntu7.04-kde4alpha1   checking it out now
[07:56] <vzduch> my SyncMaster 913B was never correctly recognized, I had to tune the refresh rates
[07:56] <shane2peru> hey does anyone know why chrooting into another partition would cause x to crash?
[07:56] <airguitar> hi. i recently installed kubuntu and i'm having trouble getting sound to work. when i try to play an mp3 in either amarok or xmms, it "plays" but i don't hear anything. I checked if the sound was muted using the sound mixer, and it wasn't...what should i do next? please help.
[07:57] <melkor> airguitar, can you hear wav or vorbiss files?
[07:57] <melkor> ie, do you get any sound
[07:57] <airguitar> ill try to play one. hold on
[07:58] <WaxyFresh> source-o-matic dosent seem to have an option for kubuntu,is there a diffrent site?
[07:58] <vzduch> alain, aaron : il y a un canal franais, non ? :)
[07:58] <shane2peru> no other chrooters out there?
[07:58] <shane2peru> does anyone chroot?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> I used to have widescreen issues with ubuntu, but not any more. :)
[07:58] <Dr_willis> some other disrtos still have issues
[07:58] <Dr_willis> Of course a lot of this is X isssues not disrto specific
[07:59] <aaron> je sais pas
[07:59] <vzduch> !fr
[07:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:59] <airguitar> melkor: it doesn't play wavs or videos
[07:59] <aaron> merci
[07:59] <shane2peru> !fr @ aaron
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr @ aaron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <shane2peru> !fr | aaron
[07:59] <ubotu> aaron: please see above
[07:59] <SillyZ> !sata @ sillyz
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata @ sillyz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <WaxyFresh> i used to have issues with my monitor not functioning in widescreen mode then i went out and got a laptop that actually came with this widescreen option and now it all works fine
[08:00] <shane2peru> !sata | SillyZ
[08:00] <akrus> hello, could someone recommend utility for directory compare? :)
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <shane2peru> !chroot
[08:00] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:00] <WaxyFresh> so when source-o-matic says  ubuntu dose that include kubuntu?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> yes
[08:00] <genii> WaxyFresh: Yes
[08:01] <melkor> airguitar it doesnt returns any errors it just goes along as though it is playing music?
[08:01] <WaxyFresh> thanks
[08:01] <melkor> airguitar but no sound?
[08:01] <airguitar> yes, exactly. that's why i thought it was muted
[08:01] <melkor> fiesty?
[08:01] <airguitar> i turned the volumes all the way up in kmix
[08:02] <airguitar> yes. fiesty
[08:02] <alain> aaron: ce lien dans "~/kde/Autostart" , quel peut-il tre(localit et syntaxe), quelle sera sa fonction?  MERCI!
[08:02] <vzduch> airguitar: check alsamixer, perhaps something there isn't on
[08:02] <shane2peru> nobody uses chroot here?
[08:02] <genii> airguitar Is this a laptop?
[08:02] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  some times
[08:02] <airguitar> i tried alsamixer. the only thing that was "turned off" was line?
[08:03] <airguitar> yes, this is a dell inspiron 6000 (if that helps)
[08:03] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: do I need to install anything specific to make it work correctly?
[08:03] <airguitar> using the ICH6 sound card
[08:03] <SillyZ> so why is using the UUID in fstab to designate the partitions more significant that the old method of /dev/sda# or /dev/hda# ?? ( Ive read the page, but still dont see the significance of it )
[08:03] <airguitar> the weird thing is that i've installed ubuntu before and it detected my sound card perfectly
[08:03] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  thats rather vague.. Its  just a command , whats not working correctly.
[08:03] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: mine keeps crashing X, I'm chroot-ing to setup Gentoo and a separate partition from Kubuntu
[08:04] <shane2peru> on a separate partition from Kubuntu
[08:04] <shane2peru> typo sorry.
[08:04] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  chrooting in the shell,  shouldnet be affecting X at all, or the local system
[08:04] <genii> airguitar Because on many laptops you can accidentally hardware mute the sound usually by way of a FN key plus an F1 thru F8 key or so. so that no matter if the card etc is set up properly no sound
[08:04] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: I know, however X goes crazy and my screen starts flipping out with crazy flashes
[08:05] <aaron> alain: ln /usr/bin/konversation ~/.kde/Autostart/
[08:05] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  opening up a xterm, and chrooting over to some partition/filesystem , shouldent be affectng the local running X at all.
[08:06] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  you aint  trying to start X again are you?
[08:06] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: then I have another problem that only happens when I do that.
[08:06] <airguitar> genii: i know that. i've tried that also. when i press the hardware mute and/or sound buttons, a "popup" comes up and tells me "mute on/off" and the like
[08:06] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: no, I did that once, and quickly recognized that that wasn't going to work LOL :)
[08:06] <Minataku> Heya, genii and Dr_willis :D
[08:06] <genii> airguitar: Ah, OK good. It is a very common frustration.
[08:07] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: just installing programs via emerge for Gentoo
[08:07] <genii> Minataku Heyas :)
[08:07] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  try it from the console
[08:07] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: you mean the tty thing?  I did that
[08:07] <airguitar> i figured as much. i usually try irc as a last resort
[08:07] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: switched back and wow, no X, just the crazy flashing screen
[08:07] <gsaldana> can anyone help me figure this out? Kubuntu hangs when I try to shutdown from my session. I have to logout and then shutdown from kdm to successfuly shutdown
[08:07] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  Minataku  is the gentoo drone in here. :) he may be able to help more. I gave up on Gentoo ages ago.
[08:08] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: if I don't chroot I don't have problems
[08:08] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  dont even start X then. :)
[08:08] <Minataku> Heh
[08:08] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: it starts at startup
[08:08] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  its also possible you may need to set up the /dev/ and /proc things for the chrooted enviroment properly
[08:08] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  then makeit stop. :)
[08:08] <shane2peru> Minataku: I should be able to emerge in a chrooted environment inside of Kubuntu right?
[08:08] <Dr_willis> Im thinkng you may need some more Linux Basics  befor Tackling Gentoo. :)
[08:09] <Minataku> If the chrooted environment is a fully complete, working environment, yeah
[08:09] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: ahhh, you may be on to something there with the /dev and /proc thing,  I will have to look into that.
[08:09] <Minataku> That is, if you can boot it and run it standalone
[08:09] <Minataku> Then you can chroot into it and use it
[08:09] <Dr_willis> i recall the gentoo install docs. having some ocmmands for /proc and /dev  befor the chroot.
[08:09] <melkor> Airguitar have you tried using a command line cdplayer, or maybe mpg321 ?
[08:10] <Dr_willis> also the SWAP file may be getting used by both..
[08:10] <Minataku> Yeah
[08:10] <airguitar> melkor: no
[08:10] <airguitar> ill try
[08:10] <shane2peru> Minataku: yep can boot into it with out a problem, trying to get it setup and would like to use Kubuntu for those hour long compiles :)
[08:10] <Minataku> shane2peru: Just enable PREEMPT in the Gentoo kernel
[08:10] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: I think that is the ticket, thanks, I will have to look that stuff up.
[08:10] <Minataku> Then you can compile and play at the same time with no trouble
[08:11] <Minataku> Real-time preempt is like turning a uniprocessor system into SMP
[08:11] <shane2peru> Minataku: preempt that would be in building the kernel correct?
[08:11] <Minataku> The performance boost is incredible
[08:11] <Minataku> shane2peru: Yeah
[08:11] <shane2peru> Minataku: ok, over my head there :)
[08:12] <shane2peru> Minataku: you don't think that perhaps /proc /dev things could be clashing in the chroot environment?
[08:12] <shane2peru> I chroot with this sudo chroot /media/sda5 /bin/bash
[08:13] <Minataku> shane2peru: Follow the chroot instructions in the handbook
[08:13] <Minataku> There's some things you have to do to make the chrooted environment proper
[08:13] <Minataku> I can't remember what they are because I haven't installed Gentoo in ages
[08:13] <shane2peru> Minataku: ok, I will have to take a look at that again, I must not be doing something right
[08:14] <shane2peru> Minataku: great, thanks for the help, that will put me on the right track at least!  :)
[08:14] <Minataku> Hopefully, at least XD
[08:14] <shane2peru> I was shooting/chrooting in the dark before :)
[08:15] <Minataku> Heehee
[08:15] <aaron> env-update && source /etc/profile
[08:16] <ka0spm> gentoo yikes
[08:16] <airguitar> melkor: mpg123 doesn't work either
[08:16] <melkor> airguitar does it give you an error or does it think its working?
[08:17] <MidMark> hi
[08:17] <shane2peru> Minataku: ahh, here it is:  http://source.pri.ee/howto:chroot_gentoo   I wasn't using the bind commands for fear it would mess up something.
[08:17] <Minataku> Ah
[08:17] <airguitar> the only thing it says when playing wavs is "junk at the beginning" and then goes onto say that the stream was decoded
[08:17] <MidMark> guys I have a laptop that continue cannot start neither kubuntu feisty neither gutsy tribe 2, it repeat N times this: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. and then stop after soem times
[08:17] <MidMark> what can I do?
[08:18] <aaron> mpg123
[08:19] <melkor> I dont know...
[08:20] <airguitar> heh. neither do i. keep in mind that the sound DID work. maybe something might be up with the sound driver?
[08:21] <kavia> Dr_willis: kubuntu textual installation recognize perfectly the cdrom and put it into /dev/hda but installed kubuntu then it seems that disappears!
[08:22] <melkor> I've never had an error with sound driver, usually codecs, maybe you could use dmesg
[08:22] <alain> [19:40]  <aaron> alain: do you still need help?[19:40]  <aaron> alain: do you still need help?
[08:23] <airguitar> use dmesg how? it just displays a list of hardware...?
[08:23] <melkor> to see if it has the right sound card
[08:23] <melkor> when did it stop working, maybe after you upgraded your kernel?
[08:24] <bibou_> #helpchan
[08:24] <airguitar> it could've been. it worked on a fresh isnstall, but then i upgraded everything and installed firefox, beryl, etc...
[08:25] <aaron> alain: /join #kubuntu-fr
[08:25] <airguitar> and setup everything the way i liked and then it stopped working
[08:25] <melkor> alsa has the sound drivers?  So maybe try reinstalling alsa?
[08:25] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: Minataku:  Thanks that was the trick, proper chrooting helps :)
[08:27] <Minataku> Cool
[08:27] <airguitar> ill try
[08:28] <melkor> does make ever crash after a warning?
[08:29] <melkor> It doesn't appear to be doing anything, but maybe it is compiling still.
[08:31] <airguitar> brb
[08:32] <alain> c'est indmmable...
[08:32] <alain> alain@PAVILION:~/.kde/Autostart$ ls -al /usr/bin/konversation
[08:32] <alain> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2112700 2007-01-27 08:39 /usr/bin/konversation
[08:32] <alain> alain@PAVILION:~/.kde/Autostart$ ls -al ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:32] <alain> total 12
[08:32] <alain> drwx------ 2 alain alain 4096 2007-05-15 01:42 .
[08:32] <alain> drwx------ 5 alain alain 4096 2007-05-15 01:42 ..
[08:32] <alain> -rw-r--r-- 1 alain alain 1823 2007-05-15 01:42 .directory
[08:32] <carranca> hi, i think something is wrong with my instalation of kubuntu, for some reason it tells me that i have things that are installed when they are not and it dosnt tell me to upgrade anything... ive just installed after some problems i had, and the last time requested me to install quite a few...
[08:33] <Daskreech2> Maybe you are running windows? :)
[08:33] <Daskreech2> What is installed that you didn't install
[08:34] <carranca> firefox for example, ive tried launch it manually but it dosnt exist... im not a linux new by the way :P...
[08:35] <Minataku> carranca: firefox-bin
[08:35] <carranca> wait, i think ive fix it...
[08:35] <Minataku> If not, your dpkg database may have been corrupted
[08:35] <ardchoille> carranca: which firefox
[08:36] <ardchoille> apt-cache policy firefox
[08:36] <carranca> for some reason the update didnt tak place, so ive open adept manager and did fetch updates... now appears the 62 updates that were missing...
[08:36] <Daskreech2> carranca: I don't know Firefox seems to hate me since edgy I just always run firefox & from yakuake and it never fails
[08:36] <carranca> after the updates i will try again with firefox :P
[08:36] <Daskreech2> I can bet it won't work still
[08:37] <Daskreech2>  or will randomly work
[08:37] <Daskreech2> it will always work from the konsole
[08:37] <Daskreech2> I don't know if the .desktop is wrong but that's my experience
[08:39] <skarface> how can I make the line-in audible all the time?
[08:42] <alain> aaron: tu me suis?
[08:43] <fssssssssssh> i want the VLC player to play all my video files.  i right click "open with" "others", select VLC and click "use for opening these files". but the next time i click on that avi file, its still opened by kaffeine
[08:44] <fssssssssssh> anyone knows how to solve that ?
[08:46] <roy> first open the vlc
[08:46] <roy> and then file open....file
[08:49] <Daskreech2> !default
[08:49] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:50] <inflate> hi, who can help me with pyqt?
[08:50] <olafski> hello, I'm trying to get my logitech quickcam messenger plus to work in kubuntu 7.04, but I have no idea how.. can't find anything on it in the package manager, could anyone give me a pointer?
[08:51] <carranca> inflate what do you need to know?
[08:51] <inflate> i've written an app, and it is working very well, but when user press 'esc' it close the app
[08:51] <inflate> how can i disable it?
[08:52] <inflate> i want when esc is pressed, a confirmation window appear, how can i do it?
[08:53] <Daskreech2> !webcam
[08:53] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:53] <carranca> inflate, if im not mistaken there should be a keyboard signal conected to the app slot to close it... if you didnt write it yourself perhaps you could see if the "designer" did it for you. Perhaps looking into the ui file...
[08:53] <olafski> many thanks, daskreech2
[08:54] <carranca> inflate maybe you need to disconect that signal (first you need to know which one it is). For more information join #qt or #kde, they program in c++ but they help me when i used pyqt
[08:55] <inflate> the designer added this : QObject.connect(a,SIGNAL("lastWindowClosed()"),a,SLOT("quit()"))
[08:55] <inflate> but even if i remove it, it still can be closed by pressing esc
[08:55] <inflate> i'll try to join #qt and see what they can help me, thank you very much
[08:57] <carranca> inflate the line you show me is another thing, it tells the program that after the last window is closed, the program quits, if thats not there, when you close all your windows you still need to do ctrl+c... you shoud look for something more like SLOT(close)
[09:00] <pope> I am having some pretty big problems with a video card. I tried installing the drivers from the repository, but after I plug the video card in and start it up, I get a very messy video signal at the booting screen; the bottom half is all checkered and the top half shows two inverted "kubuntu" logos with progress bars. The onboard video works fine when I switch back to the "vesa" driver, but I cannot get to a point where my video card will
[09:00] <pope> work at all, using either the "nv" or "vesa" driver.
[09:00] <pope> My video card is a BFG GeForce 6200, and I am using an HP a800n.
[09:01] <fssssssssssh> ubotu: thanks!! it works!!! but do you know why this "open files with that proggie in the future"-option doesnt work? :)
[09:01] <inflate> the only slot close i found is my own
[09:01] <fssssssssssh> ah bot =D
[09:01] <carranca> inflate let me see if i have the same problem (i never make a full app, just examples to test qt)
[09:02] <fssssssssssh> so thanks Daskreech2! :P
[09:02] <inflate> ok
[09:02] <Daskreech2> 0 /me lokos around
[09:02] <alain> alain:/join #kubuntu.fr
[09:02] <Daskreech2> Whatnow?
[09:03] <Daskreech2> Oh Right !default :) Sure fssssssssssh
[09:03] <equipo13> hola
[09:03] <carranca> inflate, of the few apps i have none present that problem :P... maybe a slot you added without knowing? do you use keyboard signals?
[09:03] <fssssssssssh> hehe yes =D
[09:03] <Daskreech2> pope: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:03] <Daskreech2> Hi BluesKaj
[09:03] <inflate> no
[09:03] <pope> alright, thanks a lot
[09:04] <BluesKaj> hey Daskreech2
[09:04] <equipo13> Anyu body here
[09:04] <carranca> equipo13 hola, este chat es en ingles, creo que hay un canal #kubuntu-es
[09:04] <Daskreech2> equipo13: Nope :)
[09:04] <_Iamda> uboto,where is the channel rules?
[09:04] <Daskreech2> !coc
[09:04] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:04] <equipo13> ok, say me please
[09:04] <carranca> equipo13 sino preguntame igual :P
[09:04] <Daskreech2> me
[09:05] <fssssssssssh> the little windows of the opened programs in my bottomtaskbar always show the name&symbol of the opened files but NOT the name of the program itself. can one change that ?
[09:05] <morph_> is there a crash log i can see after my pc recovers?
[09:05] <fssssssssssh> its really confusing :F
[09:05] <Daskreech2> fssssssssssh: It does just after the name of the document
[09:05] <Daskreech2>  Mouse over and look at the tooltip
[09:05] <Daskreech2> !log
[09:05] <fssssssssssh> yes sure, i know what programs are opening the files
[09:05] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[09:05] <Daskreech2> damn :)
[09:05] <Daskreech2> !logs
[09:05] <equipo13> Carranca hey quiero crear un chat interno en mi red, con Kubuntu, como lo puedo hacer?
[09:05] <fssssssssssh> but i want it like in windows
[09:06] <carranca> inflate are you generating code from the ui or loading dynamicly?
[09:06] <sonic_> Hey there, Anyone know how to batch convert a load of psd's to gif format. The psd's have multiple layers so I'll want to flatten them first.
[09:06] <Daskreech2> !es | equipo13
[09:06] <ubotu> equipo13: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:06] <inflate> I'm generating code from ui using pyuic
[09:06] <fssssssssssh> if i open the file "yippieh.txt" with word, i want to see "word" and not "yippieh.txt" in the taskbar, u know? ;D
[09:06] <llutz> sonic_: use convert (imagemagick)
[09:06] <Daskreech2> morph_: Yeah In short. You have ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log
[09:07] <morph_> thanx
[09:07] <sonic_> llutz: I have that but I don't know how to batch flatten then convert
[09:07] <Daskreech2> morph_: ooooh
[09:07] <carranca> inflate and you've checked all the connect statementS?
[09:07] <Daskreech2> morph_: alt+space -> ksystem -> <press enter>
[09:07] <olafski> daskreech2: any idea how I could fix the quickcam, other than with the -webcam options? I have found a howto that uses a script to install a driver, and when I run that script the driver works, but after a reboot it does not work anymore
[09:07] <llutz> sonic_: convert --help
[09:08] <inflate> can i put here the generated code? it isn't big
[09:08] <carranca> inflate you should use a patebin
[09:08] <Daskreech2> olafski: doesn't sound like much f a driver fix. If you want to use that script just have it run at startup everytime
[09:08] <Daskreech2> !paste
[09:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:08] <Dj_FlyBy> looking for some help in regards to domains.... I have set the domain name and the hostname, I have an IP, and access to the internet, however no *other* computer on the network can see this
[09:09] <morph_> i htink kiba dock is causing my laptop to crash
[09:09] <olafski> daskreech2: that script compiles and installs the driver though, doesn't sound like something you'd want to run every time it starts up (not to mention it requires me to press enter a lot of times and type my root password)
[09:09] <morph_> i just restarts x
[09:09] <Daskreech2> olafski: That honestly sounds very strange. Did you look thorough the docs for Webcam on the wiki
[09:10] <inflate> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28521/
[09:10] <olafski> daskreech2: yeah, my particular model number wasn't on it so I used the one for the quickcam messenger
[09:11] <vzduch> olafski: are you sure the driver is loaded on boot?
[09:11] <Daskreech2> vzduch: Obviously it isnt :)
[09:11] <olafski> vzduch: the 'quickcam' module isn't loaded on startup, no
[09:11] <Daskreech2> I have to run
[09:11] <equipo14> necesito el chat en espaol. help me please.
[09:11] <stone_> hoping someone can help me...
[09:11] <carranca> inflate, try removing the close button
[09:11] <Daskreech2> !es | equipo14
[09:11] <ubotu> equipo14: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:11] <olafski> vzduch: when I modprobe it manually, it still won't do anything
[09:12] <carranca> from designer
[09:12] <vlt> Hello. Today I want to create an HTML email (don't laugh!) and place an image file at a certain position. How can I do this (KMail 1.9.1)?
[09:12] <equipo14> i need to chat in spanish. help me please
[09:12] <olafski> vzduch: or should I restart kde after modprobing it?
[09:12] <stone_> my system keeps freezing and I don't know how to fix it
[09:12] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone?
[09:12] <Daskreech2> equipo14: click on #kubuntu-es
[09:12] <Daskreech2> ^^^ en azure
[09:12] <carranca> inflate normally close buttons are automatically conected to the esc button and to the close window
[09:12] <vzduch> olafski: won't hurt to restart X then
[09:13] <equipo14> thank's ...
[09:13] <stone_> is there some kind of Kubuntu desktop repair that I can try?
[09:13] <vzduch> stone_: did you recently install an Nvidia driver?
[09:13] <stone_> as far as I know it is up to date
[09:13] <olafski> vzduch: didn't help I'm afraid :(
[09:14] <vzduch> some suggestions on options for enabling 3D rendering can cause a system to freeze
[09:14] <stone_> the first time it froze I just opened Adept...that's it
[09:14] <inflate> this close button is a normal button, and i didn't connect it with any thing yet, as you can see, it's a stand alone button
[09:14] <stone_> how can I fix the 3D thing?
[09:14] <vzduch> stone_: can you do anything after the system freezes?
[09:15] <stone_> nope
[09:15] <stone_> mouse doesn't even move
[09:15] <vzduch> i.e. switching to a console or so
[09:15] <inflate> when i want a button to close an application, i usually use this:
[09:15] <inflate> self.connect(self.close_button,SIGNAL("clicked()"),self.close)
[09:15] <vzduch> I had it that I could move the mouse pointer but nothing else worked, not even switching to a console
[09:15] <stone_> sorry, still very new to Linux OSes
[09:15] <inflate> but i don't have this connection yet
[09:16] <carranca> inflate is this your main app? because you are extending from QDialog instead of QMainApp
[09:16] <stone_> I'm trying to show a friend the Cube type desktop, I just can't get it to work on Kubuntu
[09:17] <stone_> got it to work on Ubuntu no problem
[09:17] <stone_> but I like the KDE layout better
[09:17] <inflate> no, the file was genereated by kdepyuic
[09:17] <inflate> i'll post the main file now
[09:17] <inflate> just a sec
[09:17] <carranca> inflate, but when you created the form with designer, did you use the mainapp template or the dialog template?
[09:18] <BluesKaj> stone_, Cube type desktop,...do you mean beryl ?
[09:18] <ktulchu>   . *--,   *
[09:18] <stone_> yes
[09:18] <vzduch> !ru | ktulchu
[09:18] <BluesKaj> !ru | ktulchu
[09:18] <ubotu> ktulchu:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:19] <vlt> !ru | ktulchu:
[09:19] <ubotu> ktulchu::    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:19] <ktulchu> 0_o
[09:19] <stone_> Beryl worked fine on gnome desktop, but I just switched to KDE and no luck getting it to work
[09:19] <inflate> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28523/
[09:19] <vzduch> olafski: you should have a section 'Device' in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf that should look something like this --> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1603
[09:20] <ktulchu> Sorry :)
[09:20] <carranca> inflate, but when you created the form with designer, did you use the mainapp template or the dialog template?
[09:20] <vzduch> if you have more lines, comment them out or delete them
[09:20] <inflate> ummm, i don't remember
[09:21] <inflate> i think the dialog, since it is selected by default and i usually press enter directly
[09:22] <BluesKaj> stone_, check your nvidia driver , if you "upgraded" to KDE, the pnp generic driver may have been reinstalled
[09:22] <olafski> vzduch: hmm, let me see +)
[09:22] <stone_> please explain how to do so...sorry...
[09:22] <carranca> inflate i think you used the dialog, try this... open up the ui file with the designer, if the properties says QDialog (ill bet it does) there lays your problem, dialogs are closed with esc... but you may change this behavor (i think) setting the windowModality as Qt::aplicationmodal
[09:23] <carranca> inflate anyway, the correct way should be to create the form again as a mainapp
[09:23] <stone_> just use terminal to get most recent nvidia driver?
[09:24] <carranca> inflate sry, everywhere i say mainapp it should say mainwindow
[09:24] <vlt> Any idea how to create an HTML mail containing an image with KMail?
[09:24] <olafski> vzduch: I have two such sections, should I add the GLXWithComposite option?
[09:25] <vzduch> two?
[09:25] <inflate> yes, it's a qdialog, ok, I'll try now using mainapp
[09:25] <twosouls82> equipo: please don't flood the room :)
[09:25] <BluesKaj> stone_, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode/graphics card/configure ..the driver to match your nvidia card
[09:25] <olafski> vzduch: yeah, one near the bottom and one in the middle somewhere
[09:25] <vzduch> shouldn't be more than one, except you have more than one gfx card
[09:25] <inflate> in designer, you mean main window?
[09:26] <olafski> hm, well I added it in both... it changed how the fonts are rendered, but that wasn't really what I was after I think ;)
[09:26] <carranca> inflate yes, try first with the modal thing ive said
[09:26] <vzduch> olafski: could you paste these 2 sections please? :)
[09:27] <olafski> vzduch: as I don't understand much about this file, how about I paste the entire file ;)
[09:27] <vzduch> or that
[09:27] <vzduch> !paste | olafski
[09:27] <ubotu> olafski: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <olafski> vzduch: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1604
[09:29] <vzduch> ah, there we have it.. double head
[09:29] <olafski> oh
[09:29] <vzduch> did you restart X?
[09:29] <olafski> didn't even know I had that :)
[09:29] <olafski> yep
[09:29] <vzduch> try 'glxgears'
[09:30] <rebox> im on ubuntu live cd, have no sound though, an ATI SB 450 sound card, googled, founds this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452992, but how to restart and still have made that settings change?
[09:30] <olafski> none of the webcam guides told me to add something like this by the way... you sure you don't have me confused with someone? :o
[09:30] <olafski> getting about 1400 fps in glxgears
[09:30] <vzduch> olafski: one section says 'screen 0', the other says 'screen 1'
[09:30] <vzduch> so 3D is working
[09:30] <olafski> aye
[09:30] <vzduch> now watch and see if you still get crashes
[09:30] <olafski> I think you've got me confused ;)
[09:30] <olafski> I'm trying to get my webcam to work, not beryl or any 3d things
[09:30] <judgen> how do i remove amarko withouth removing kubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <carranca> i have a notebook with ati-radeon, when i go to settings - monitor & display - Hardware ive put configure and automaticaly it recognize fglrx (which i used before in my slack) when i press on test a new display is created with blank X, its that normal_??? i had to enter alt-crtl-backspace to quit that
[09:31] <judgen> how do i remove amarok withouth removing kubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <vzduch> ah, there we go, I confused you w/ someone else.. *shameOnMe*
[09:32] <olafski> ;)
[09:32] <vzduch> anyway, now your 3D accel works *gg*
[09:32] <olafski> it did already ;)
[09:32] <judgen> min didnt so i gave up
[09:32] <pass> anybody got beryl running with kde?
[09:32] <vzduch> sorry I can't help you w/ a webcam, I don't have one :)
[09:33] <olafski> alright, well thanks anyway; I'll go see if I can figure out what that installer script does that I need to replicate
[09:33] <jhutchins> olafski: The video4linux web site may be of some help.
[09:34] <vzduch> equipo1: you should be fine w/ 1 login, no need for several
[09:34] <BluesKaj> !beryl | pass
[09:34] <ubotu> pass: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:34] <olafski> jhutchins: thanks, I'll have a look at that.. looks like I have some kind of obscure quickcam version that none of the websites mention :/
[09:35] <pass> how do i close a tty opened with openvt (e.g. openvt -c 8)
[09:36] <waylandbill_> !webcam
[09:36] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:36] <equipo16> los perillones+
[09:37] <olafski> waylandbill: I looked there :s
[09:37] <equipo3> ugkh
[09:37] <vzduch> wtf?
[09:37] <BluesKaj> judgen, it's practically impossible , but you can remove amarok from the menu by alt+f2 kdesu kcontrol
[09:37] <emilsedgh> Hi.I have Kubuntu 6.10 with KDe 3.5.6, yesterday I installed strigi, from then, I cannot change my keyboard layout and Keyboard Layouts list is empty
[09:38] <equipo2> mkflhnsfg
[09:38] <pass> how do i close a tty opened with openvt (e.g. openvt -c 8)
[09:39] <waylandbill> olafski: sometimes it can be difficult if the device is not supported. I got my webcam, interestingly from a windows user that could not get drivers from XP or Vista. Radio Shack!
[09:39] <pass> my webcame ain't working as well, usually it's hard to find linux drivers for webcams, you can look by the chip though
[09:40] <carranca> inflate did that work?
[09:41] <olafski> this should be a really easy one though, it's a common cam I think
[09:41] <inflate> same thing
[09:41] <inflate> i really confused, what is causing this
[09:41] <carranca> inflate you create mainwindow or just change the modal?
[09:41] <olafski> hmm maybe it has to do with this; when I install programs etc, I always get a few errors first saying somethines about major and minor opcodes
[09:41] <olafski> is that a problem?
[09:41] <inflate> mainwindow
[09:42] <Pupeno> Hello.
[09:42] <Pupeno> Does anybody have an idea why my MacBook Pro may be doing random clicks and how to stop it?
[09:42] <judgen> Pupeno: probably one of those macs with faulty disks...
[09:42] <Pupeno> judgen: a faulty disk makes the mouse click? I don't think so.
[09:42] <carranca> inflate thats weird, if you like i can give you a small example ive maid (its kind of messy but its 4 files only
[09:43] <inflate> i'll be very gratefull
[09:44] <inflate> please send me the examples
[09:44] <BluesKaj> Pupeno , "turn off  all sounds" in system settings /notifications
[09:44] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: did that ages ago.
[09:45] <olafski> ok, I can get the webcam to run if I don't reboot... I think it might have to do with the fact that /dev/video0 does not exist on booting, can I somehow make it work?
[09:45] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: even then, I don't understand what clicking the mouse has to do with sounds.
[09:46] <inflate> carranca, i'm not a registred user, I don't know if you've recieved my email via pm
[09:47] <carranca> inflate, no, ive just send you a pm :P
[09:47] <BluesKaj> hate those stupid sounds ...i turn em off as soon as possible
[09:47] <inflate> i recieved your pm, but msgs from unregistered users are blocked
[09:47] <carranca> :P
[09:47] <inflate> send it to public place
[09:47] <carranca> inflate to registe just put /NickServ help
[09:47] <carranca> ok
[09:48] <inflate> ok, just a min, let me register
[09:50] <enry> good night
[09:50] <judgen> i have a wierd problem.... everytime kdetv starts the video overlay the xserver crashes.
[09:51] <ciga> hi
[09:51] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: how are things north of the border today? Rainy here
[09:52] <waylandbill> hi ciga
[09:53] <ciga> I wonder to switch from cvs to svn, but I suppose quanta would not handle svn as good as it does for cvs. Can you confirm that? Is there some similar tool for that? I tried kdevelop, but it is not as sophisticated as the cervisia plugin for quanta.
[09:53] <ciga> hi waylandbill
[09:54] <waylandbill> ciga: web development?
[09:54] <ciga> yes, php mainly.
[09:55] <waylandbill> ciga: cervisa will be the best bet still. K integration with svn is still touchy.
[09:55] <waylandbill> (but getting better as we type)
[09:55] <ciga> I could type faster if it helps :] 
[09:56] <waylandbill> not literally as we type, but it's getting better. :)
[09:56] <emilsedgh> ciga: im a php dev too, kdesvn is good, it doesnt intergate with Quanta+, but its really good with Konqueror
[09:57] <waylandbill> I agree.. emilsedgh is right. it's good but still requires using more than one app. It's not an integrated plugin
[09:58] <ciga> waylandbill: hmm. my cervisia does not support svn. Should it? or I suppose to install something more?
[09:58] <fssssssssssh> the little windows of the opened programs in my bottomtaskbar always show the name&symbol of the opened files but NOT the name of the program itself. can one change that ?
[09:58] <waylandbill> cervisa is only for cvs. It's still a good option for source control though.
[09:59] <emilsedgh> ciga: Cervisia is just for CVS, try kdesvn, there are packages for more distros
[09:59] <Dr_willis> little windows.. of the poened programs... Hmm......
[10:00] <ciga> if I am not mistaken I used to find some svn try for cervisia in trunk... but it was a long time ago.
[10:00] <Dr_willis> fssssssssssh,  what program you refering to? some editor?
[10:00] <fssssssssssh> e.g if open office is opened, i dont see "open office" but i see the name of the document "yippieh.txt"
[10:00] <fssssssssssh> u see? :)
[10:01] <ciga> waylandbill: yes, cervisia and cvs walks hand in hand just fine...
[10:02] <Dr_willis> fssssssssssh,  so if you have 8 docs open . you see the name of each opend file.. that lets you Pick the file you want.. instead of having 8 Vague/identical Openoffice   icons in the taskmanager...
[10:02] <Dr_willis> and this is bad because?
[10:02] <ciga> emilsedgh: yes, I used kdesvn, but integration is a very good thing when you develop something.
[10:02] <fssssssssssh> i dont have any program opened more than once :P
[10:03] <emilsedgh> ciga: sure, but working with SVN is not one of those things that you do every minute, I prefer command line in SVN jobs, but please, be patient for further development and use kdesvn for some time ;)
[10:04] <ciga> waylandbill: I could also try to compile something from trunk or even some app for kde4 if it would give me quanta/kdeveloper + svn integration...
[10:04] <Dr_willis> You mean you want all openoffice  taskmanager buttons to be 'grouped' ?
[10:04] <fssssssssssh> no
[10:04] <emilsedgh> ciga: or, a better solution, scratch your itch ;)
[10:04] <fssssssssssh> youve understood me
[10:04] <fssssssssssh> =D
[10:04] <fssssssssssh> if id have 8 open offices opened, id like to see 8 time "open office" in the bar
[10:05] <ciga> emilsedgh: will do, might help ;)
[10:08] <Dr_willis> fssssssssssh,  that sounds very anti-useable..
[10:08] <Dr_willis> The taskmanager has several grouping settings.. see if they do what you want.
[10:08] <Dr_willis> sounds also like an Openoffice setting/configuration also.
[10:09] <fssssssssssh> its like in windows
[10:10] <fssssssssssh> what i want
[10:10] <Dr_willis> check the taskmanager settings, and the openoffice settings I guess.
[10:10] <fssssssssssh> except that in windows, the same items get grouped
[10:10] <fssssssssssh> na its nothing open office specific, id like to have that for all programs
[10:10] <Dr_willis> i havent used openoffice enough to even notice the effect/thing.
[10:10] <fssssssssssh> and i also diddnt see such a setiting in the taskmanager
[10:10] <emilsedgh> fssssssssssh: Same Items get grouped at this side too, maybe thats disabled for you?
[10:11] <fssssssssssh> it is disabled
[10:11] <Dr_willis> You just said you dident want them grouped...
[10:11] <fssssssssssh> but thats what i want
[10:11] <fssssssssssh> yes in windows i disabled grouping
[10:11] <fssssssssssh> just want to say, that the style that i want, is the same that you have when you use windows and disable grouping
[10:11] <fssssssssssh> =D
[10:12] <emilsedgh> fssssssssssh: Right Click on your Panel, click on "configure panel", then go to "Taskbar" tab and enable it
[10:12] <vzduch> bah, it's friggin' cold for July
[10:12] <fssssssssssh> no emilsedgh thats not what i want :f
[10:13] <fssssssssssh> i think thats just not possible under kubuntu
[10:13] <emilsedgh> fssssssssssh: sorry, so how do you want it to be?
[10:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:13] <fssssssssssh> .D
[10:13] <fssssssssssh> ok once again
[10:14] <Dr_willis> Earlier you seemed to be upset at the NAME of the appletbuttons all beign doc1.txt doc2.txt not all 'openoffice'
[10:14] <fssssssssssh> if i open (e.g.!) open office and the i open a file called yippieh.txt, i see in the taskbarwindow "yippieh.txt" but i want just to see the name of the program (open office)
[10:15] <fssssssssssh> i dont want to see the name of the opened files
[10:15] <fssssssssssh> i want to see the name of the program
[10:15] <fssssssssssh> but not only for open office, for all programs
[10:15] <fssssssssssh> just the way it is in windows =D
[10:16] <emilsedgh> fssssssssssh: ok, if thats the only problem, try right clicking on OpenOffice window Title, Go to "Configure Window Behave"
[10:16] <fssssssssssh> ok thanks, ill search for an appropriate option, this may take a while =D
[10:17] <hunttuch> ive got a problem too
[10:17] <hunttuch> . I just set up my internet connection and now I can use IRC an ping but im not able to go to any website
[10:17] <hunttuch> seems that dsn isnt working yet
[10:17] <arash_> hunttuch,try firefox :)
[10:17] <hunttuch> ya, you r funny
[10:18] <hunttuch> i cant download it.....
[10:18] <BluesKaj> hunttuch, try konqueror
[10:18] <arash_> not from install programs ?
[10:18] <hunttuch> i do
[10:18] <hunttuch> nope
[10:19] <bluecode> how do I update from dapper to feisty?
[10:19] <hunttuch> if dns is the problem
[10:20] <hunttuch> than it should work if type in an ip schouldnt it
[10:20] <arash_> bkuecode - you have to do it via whats inbetween
[10:20] <arash_> !versions
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about versions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <arash_> via edgy :)
[10:21] <Dr_willis> !startup
[10:21] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[10:25] <bluecode> arash_, I don't really understand... why doesn't adept show the update?
[10:25] <arash_> its not from adept I think...
[10:25] <arash_> or wait
[10:25] <arash_> !upgrade
[10:25] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:25] <arash_> it also contains for 6.6 to 6.10 ...
[10:25] <vzduch> bluecode: afaik there's no direct upgrade path from Dapper to Feisty.. either Dapper --> Edgy --> Feisty or reinstall
[10:26] <boguh> what happened to kvim?
[10:26] <bluecode> thanks for the links I'll read that, if I have any problems then I'll ask again :)
[10:26] <pyrotix> Can someone try visiting: http://70.48.13.214:81 ?
[10:26] <genii> Dr_willis: Interesting the ubotu has startup notes for Gnome and not KDE in the kubuntu channel
[10:26] <boguh> i remember some versions ago i was able to integrade vim to kate
[10:27] <Dr_willis> genii,  we would need a kuboto
[10:27] <keenan> Is the current release of Kubuntu 64 bit?
[10:27] <Dr_willis> keenan,  theres 64 and 32bit versions
[10:27] <pyrotix> keenan: depends on the arch version you dl
[10:28] <Dr_willis> I see no need to use 64bit versions. at this time.
[10:28] <pyrotix> doesn't the 64bit version go slightly faster if you have a supported processor?
[10:28] <Dr_willis> I doubt if its noticeable.
[10:28] <fssssssssssh> anyone knows how to change the color (not the size) of the font of the windowbar?
[10:29] <Dr_willis> perhaps for some hard-number-crunching it may be noticeable.
[10:29] <pyrotix> Dr_willis I know that 64bit unreal tournament 2004 had nearly instantaneous load times
[10:29] <pyrotix> it was a tech demo though
[10:29] <Dr_willis> i find it hard to belive the 64bit would affect the drive load speeds. :)
[10:30] <pyrotix> it wouldn't affect hard driveload speed, but it could have affected management of RAM
[10:30] <pyrotix> somehow
[10:30] <pyrotix> I don't know, I didn't try it
[10:30] <Dr_willis> i want PROOF! :)
[10:31] <Dr_willis> "Linux - the Anti-Hype!" :)
[10:35] <Dr_willis> !find gasp
[10:35] <ubotu> File gasp found in binutils-m68hc1x
[10:35] <pyrotix> Dr_willis: http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=19&page=3 , Linux 64 bit had the lowest number of frames per second due to immature compilers, but they said the UT2K4 demo had nearly instantaneous load times in 64-bit
[10:36] <Dr_willis> nearly! thats not good enough
[10:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:36] <Dr_willis> then again.. reviews are often rather.. well... inexact..
[10:37] <pyrotix> true, and the load times were not timed for the benchmark
[10:38] <pyrotix> anyways, can someone please try visiting: http://70.48.13.214:81 and tell me if it times out?
[10:38] <Dr_willis> Egads look at that Porn!
[10:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:39] <Dr_willis> Looks dead from here.
[10:39] <ryaren> HI!
[10:39] <ryaren> can i have a question?
[10:39] <Dr_willis> You just asked one.. :) care to ask another? :P
[10:39] <ryaren> :)
[10:40] <pyrotix> Dr_willis, did my link time out?
[10:40] <ryaren> I tried to use secondary display but my Xserver was crashed and after the reboot the system can't boot
[10:41] <keenan> I keep getting this error when trying to install NVIDIA graphics drivers "
[10:41] <keenan>  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:41] <keenan>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[10:41] <keenan>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[10:41] <keenan>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[10:41] <Dr_willis> pyrotix,  it was taking too long.. so i closed it. :)
[10:41] <keenan> agh sry for flood
[10:41] <Dr_willis> keenan,  how are you isntalling the nvidia drivers?
[10:41] <Dr_willis> and why are you not using the repository/restricted-manager to load them :)
[10:41] <keenan> I'm going to terminal, logging in su and running them
[10:41] <ryaren> Do u have any idea how can I fix this??
[10:41] <keenan> its for an 8800
[10:42] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  what video card?
[10:42] <bluecode> I tried to update from dapper to edgy, the update-manager downloads some tool to do the update, then extracts it and then fails with "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk"
[10:42] <bluecode> any ideas?
[10:42] <Dr_willis> keenan,  im not sure if the normal nvidia drivers in the repositories work with an 8800 or not.
[10:43] <Dr_willis> keenan,  you may want to check out that 'envy' script to install the lastest from nvidia, or just try the restricted-manager tool and let it isntall the older oness from the repos.
[10:43] <keenan> I downloaded them from the NVIDIA site, they were not built in
[10:43] <Dr_willis> Id say try the restricted-manager first.
[10:43] <ryaren> Dr_Willis: Nvidia gef 4200ti
[10:43] <keenan> ok
[10:43] <Dr_willis> THEN if they dont work try the  newer ones.
[10:44] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  how did you confogure the secondary display?
[10:44] <ryaren> but the system can't boot I think something wrong in the X configuration
[10:44] <ryaren> I use the graphic interface
[10:45] <ryaren> put an x to the second display box and then apply
[10:45] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  thats possible. may have to restore the original xorg.conf file. assuming it made a backup in /etc/X11/
[10:45] <fssssssssssh> any german speaking guy here who can help me with a noob problem with GIMP in teamspeak? (probably 2 mins)
[10:45] <Dr_willis> I just normally run the nvidia config tool from the shell
[10:45] <Dr_willis> sudo  nvidia-xconfig  --twinview
[10:46] <NickPresta> !de | fssssssssssh
[10:46] <ubotu> fssssssssssh: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:46] <ryaren> Dr_willis: I think so too but I don't know how can i restore because the system can't running
[10:46] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  boot the rescue/recovery mode from the grub menus.. or use a livecd.
[10:47] <ryaren> yeah
[10:47] <levi_> just installed ubuntu sound not working, new to linux...
[10:47] <ryaren> good idea
[10:47] <Dr_willis> or add a singleuser  option in the grub menus to boot that way without starting X
[10:47] <Dr_willis> actually if X just isent starting/crashing - it SHOULD let you get to a shell
[10:47] <ryaren> it will be so complicated for me :D
[10:47] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-F1 , or similer. Or it may ask/auto-do it.
[10:48] <Dr_willis> This is when it pays to have read/learned linux fundamentals
[10:48] <ryaren> hm.. How can I put the defaults to the xconf?
[10:49] <levi__> just installed ubuntu sound not working, new to linux..
[10:49] <ryaren> Is there a command to restore default settings to X?
[10:50] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  proberly. :) but i cant rember it
[10:50] <Dr_willis> !X
[10:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:50] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  if it made a backup xorg.conf you just need to copy the original back.
[10:51] <levi__> dfhg
[10:51] <ryaren> okay I try!
[10:51] <ninHer> hi all
[10:52] <aaron> Is there any way for Kmail to forward with html?
[10:52] <vzduch> aaron: forward as attachment?
[10:52] <keenan> You guys probably just answered this question but is there a way to turn of the exit the X server then turn it back on?  I've tried init 3, doesn't appear to do anthing.
[10:52] <aaron> Inline...
[10:53] <vzduch> keenan: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:53] <keenan> thanks
[10:54] <levi__> can some1 help with setting up sound card... It worked with previous ubuntu now the new release doesnt work
[10:54] <Dr_willis> ubotu,  just sort of answered that.  :)
[10:54] <Dr_willis> hehl
[10:54] <Dr_willis> levi__,  ya did a upgrade? or clean isntall?
[10:54] <levi__> i must have missed it
[10:55] <levi__> clean install
[10:55] <Dr_willis> that was for keenman. :)
[10:55] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[10:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:55] <Dr_willis> try there?
[10:55] <levi__> ok
[10:55] <lovely> how do I find out what version of Kubuntu I have. I am trying to upgrade from dapper drake, and have just restarted
[10:56] <vzduch> I still wonder why you recommend aRts & sound system.. works fine here w/o either of these
[10:56] <levi__> ahh, dont have k menu (ubuntu)
[10:56] <vzduch> levi__: --> #ubuntu
[10:57] <levi__> trying both thnx
[10:57] <levi__> for some1 that has the time and know-how
[10:58] <NickPresta> lovely, type in a console: lsb_release -a
[10:59] <lovely> thank you
[10:59] <NickPresta> no problem
[11:00] <Dr_willis> ok one of the mnore amuseing web sites ive seen in a while --> http://www.hbovoyeur.com/
[11:02] <FreshPrince> hi
[11:03] <FreshPrince> can anybody help me with kde?
[11:03] <NickPresta> hello
[11:03] <NickPresta> !ask | FreshPrince
[11:03] <ubotu> FreshPrince: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:03] <FreshPrince> ^^
[11:03] <FreshPrince> how can i set that i can see minimized windows on the panel
[11:04] <NickPresta> the default behaviour should show minimized applications
[11:04] <FreshPrince> but mine didnt show it..
[11:05] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, open up the configuration panel window (right click > configure panel) and go to the Taskbar section. Do you see anything odd?
[11:06] <johny> [johny()]  r the package "kubuntu-desktop" doesn't exist in my system. Any idea?
[11:07] <Graham> johny: What's the problem with that?
[11:07] <ryaren> Hi again from linux! :)
[11:08] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[11:08] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:08] <Dr_willis> I would guess a typo  - when trying to install Kubuntu-desktop
[11:08] <johny> So how can i uninstall kubuntu?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' is how ive done it dozens of times in the past.
[11:08] <ryaren> There was a backup config file!
[11:08] <Graham> kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it depends on all the packages that come with kubuntu
[11:08] <Dr_willis> Unless your sources.list is messed up.
[11:09] <Graham> You can remove it with no problem.
[11:09] <ryaren> How can I use ROOT mode in graphic mode?
[11:09] <johny> ryan__: use kdesu
[11:09] <Graham> ryaren: Why the hell do you want to do that?
[11:09] <ryaren> for example I want to copy a file in /etc folder
[11:10] <Dr_willis> ryaren,  useing the shell and 'sudo' command is the best way
[11:10] <ryaren> or modify a config file
[11:10] <Dr_willis> sudo cp /whatever/file /wheverever
[11:10] <Dr_willis> or with an editor
[11:10] <ryaren> yes but it is soo long to typing always
[11:10] <Dr_willis> kdesu kate /whatever/file
[11:10] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1020/kdeaw1.png
[11:10] <Dr_willis> so long? egads...
[11:10] <genii> ryaren The root user is disabled by default for good reason, use sudo or kdesu whenever possible instead
[11:10] <Dr_willis> learn to use the <tab> key to complete names/files/dirs :)
[11:11] <Dr_willis> saves time
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Using the filemanager as root.. is doable.. but can be dangerous
[11:11] <dcosson> dr_willis: whoa, neat, i didn't know about that feature
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Linux/Bash basics. :)
[11:11] <ryaren> I remember when I used Debian there was a small program like Norton Commander
[11:11] <ardchoille> ryaren: It's dangerous, but the command is: kdesu -c konqueror --profile filemanagement
[11:11] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[11:12] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[11:12] <Dr_willis> I tend to use 'mc' as my root file manager
[11:12] <ryaren> and there I can do thing as root
[11:12] <ryaren> mc
[11:12] <ryaren> yeah
[11:12] <ryaren> thanx
[11:12] <Dr_willis> Its handy
[11:12] <ardchoille> mc is quite awesome
[11:12] <vlt_home> Hello. How can I set the 3rd mouse button to emulate a scroll wheel? I mean clicking and then moving the mouse scrolls page up/dn (at least in Konqueror) ...
[11:13] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, u see it?
[11:13] <dcosson> Does anyone out there know of a decent P2P/filesharing app that blends in decently with KDE?
[11:13] <Dr_willis> ktorrent
[11:13] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[11:13] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:14] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, which version of KDE are you running?
[11:14] <Agrajag`> valkut isn't exactly stable
[11:14] <Dr_willis> speak to the bot.. :) heh
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Ive never used it.. dont plan on it.
[11:14] <ardchoille> hahaha
[11:14] <Dr_willis> heh
[11:14] <aaron> Is there any way for Kmail to html inline?
[11:14] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, kde 3.5
[11:14] <aaron> ..to Forward html inline?
[11:14] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, wait
[11:15] <ryaren> how can i use mc as root?
[11:15] <ryaren> okay i know
[11:15] <ryaren> sudo mc
[11:15] <ryaren> :)
[11:15] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, Version        : 3.5.7-1
[11:15] <NickPresta> ryaren, `kdesu mc`
[11:15] <ryaren> How can I shut down the xserver to install NVIDIA driver?
[11:17] <ardchoille> ryaren: sudo /etc/init.d kdm stop   (and 'start' starts it up again)
[11:17] <ryaren> thx
[11:17] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, I'm running 3.5.7 and I do not see the "sort windows by desktop" sub-option. However, my settings are the same as yours and I can see minimized windows.
[11:17] <ardchoille> ryaren: ryaren If you install the nvidia drivers from the repos, you don't need to stop it, just do a 'restart'
[11:17] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, are you running multiple monitors or have the windows on different virtual desktops?
[11:18] <ryaren> the installer ask me to shut down the x
[11:18] <ardchoille> ryaren: Why are you running an installer when the drivers are in the repos?
[11:18] <ardchoille> !nvidia | ryaren
[11:18] <ubotu> ryaren: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <ryaren> what is the repos?
[11:18] <ardchoille> omg
[11:18] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, no they're not on different virtual desktops..
[11:18] <ardchoille> !repos | ryaren
[11:18] <ubotu> ryaren: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:18] <droach> im having problems compiling my kernel can someone help?
[11:19] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, I don't know what to say. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere then. I would ask your question again and see if anyone else can offer some suggestions
[11:19] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, wait..
[11:19] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, which application should i add to panel that i can see minimized windows?
[11:19] <ryaren> yeah
[11:19] <ryaren> I know the Adpet manager
[11:20] <ryaren> I installed that nvidia driver
[11:20] <ryaren> but it isn't good
[11:20] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, you should have the Taskbar applet
[11:20] <ryaren> check this out:
[11:20] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, lol i forgot to add the taskbar applet :D
[11:20] <FreshPrince> it works now :D
[11:20] <FreshPrince> hehe :)
[11:20] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, heh. =)
[11:20] <ryaren>  nvidia-settings
[11:20] <ryaren> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[11:20] <ryaren> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.
[11:21] <johny> good night everyone
[11:21] <ryaren> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'.
[11:21] <ryaren> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[11:21] <ryaren>   Major opcode:  143
[11:21] <ryaren>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:21] <ryaren>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:21] <ryaren> Failed to open device
[11:21] <ryaren> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[11:21] <ryaren>   Major opcode:  143
[11:21] <ryaren>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:21] <ryaren>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:21] <ryaren> Failed to open device
[11:21] <droach> im getting an error while compiling my kernel with dazuko
[11:21] <NickPresta> !pastebin | ryaren
[11:21] <ubotu> ryaren: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:21] <crdlb> !baddevice | ryaren
[11:21] <ubotu> ryaren: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[11:21] <FreshPrince> ryaren, -> http://phpfi.com
[11:22] <ardchoille> ryaren: Did you run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' and then restart x?
[11:22] <genii> droach There is a good tutorial (breezy 6.10 centric but applicable) here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[11:23] <droach> thats the one im using but im getting an error while compiling
[11:23] <NickPresta> droach, which error(s)? Why are you compiling a new kernel?
[11:23] <genii> droach If you paste the error to the pastebin website i'll have a look for you
[11:24] <genii> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <droach> turning off junk i dont need like joystick and scsi im doing this for my laptop
[11:25] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, i have another problem.. why i can't change the icons on my panel? i have changed the icon.. but if i click on OK, i have still the old icon there.. :(
[11:26] <droach> here is the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28552/
[11:26] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, icons where? On the taskbar panel or on the application panel
[11:26] <ryaren> so thats it
[11:26] <ryaren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28553/plain/
[11:27] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, application panel and in the K menu.. :(
[11:27] <genii> OK, reading pastebin
[11:28] <NickPresta> FreshPrince, I right click on the icon, click on "configure APPLICATION_NAME button" and change the icon by clicking on it. It works fine for me
[11:29] <ryaren> so what should i do for my nvidia driver to run perfectly
[11:30] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, not working.. :(
[11:30] <ardchoille> ryaren: The message you got told you two ways to proceed
[11:31] <ryaren> I re-write in xorg.conf nv to nvidia but there is no change
[11:31] <ardchoille> ryaren: did you restart x?
[11:31] <ryaren> no:)
[11:31] <ardchoille> That's why there is no change
[11:31] <NickPresta> lol
[11:32] <genii> droach My, dry reading there :)  I'm not seeing much in the way of what might be actually causing it however. Are you sure you got matched architectures for the dazuko sources and the kernel sources? eg: all i386 or all amd  etc
[11:32] <droach> i turned all amd and apple stuff off that saw but i will check again
[11:33] <genii> droach Are you using something like menuconfig or so?
[11:33] <ardchoille> It continues to boggle my mind why people don't actually read the tutorials we point them to
[11:34] <ardchoille> coffee.. good idea
[11:35] <droach> menuconfig
[11:35] <genii> ardchoille: I live on the stuff. that and pizza
[11:36] <olafski> there's all sorts of wacom devices in my xorg.conf, says they're for tablet pc only, but when I comment them out my x won't start anymore.. is there a way to get rid of them?
[11:36] <ardchoille> hehe
[11:36] <genii> droach OK, if you can pastebin the Configure or Makefiles I'll try to see if something looks horribly amiss
[11:37] <genii> Just the top level ones pls
[11:37] <ardchoille> olafski: You only need to comment the three lines at the bottom: "stylus" "cursor" and "eraser"
[11:37] <olafski> ardchoille: alright thanks :)
[11:37] <ryaren> re
[11:37] <ryaren> sooo
[11:37] <olafski> ardchoille: guess I should've looked a bit harder :$
[11:38] <ardchoille> lovely: :)
[11:38] <ryaren> When the x started the nvidia logo popped-up
[11:38] <ryaren> yeah
[11:38] <ryaren> but
[11:38] <droach> i have to go now ill deal with this later
[11:38] <olafski> ardchoille: thanks again, that got rid of some weird device errors I had :)
[11:39] <ardchoille> olafski: Yeah, that is easy to fix.. glad it's gone :)
[11:39] <ryaren> The problem isn't solved! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28556/plain/
[11:39] <bryan> hi everyone
[11:39] <genii> droach OK, good luck with it
[11:39] <ardchoille> olafski: Those errors are due to xorg trying to initialise wacom devices that you don't have.
[11:39] <ryaren> I don't understand.. How can is upgrade the NV-tool version from 1.6 to 1.9
[11:40] <ryaren> yeah i think so
[11:40] <olafski> ardchoille: apparently :) many thanks, it didn't really cause problems but the 'warnings' so to say were kind of annoying me :)
[11:40] <ardchoille> Annoying indeed.
[11:41] <bryan> Ican play wma files on my pc but when I go to a web site it that uses wma to play I can not play them.  Any one got any if on this?
[11:41] <ardchoille> !restricted | bryan
[11:41] <ubotu> bryan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <ardchoille> bryan: First link there should have some info about wma
[11:45] <ryaren> w
[11:46] <ryaren> how can i stop the xserver?
[11:46] <crimsun> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[11:46] <ryaren> ahh
[11:46] <ryaren> ok
[11:46] <FreshPrince> damn..
[11:46] <ardchoille> < ardchoille> ryaren: sudo /etc/init.d kdm stop   (and 'start' starts it up again)
[11:46] <FreshPrince> can anybody help me?.. :( why i can't change the icons ?
[11:47] <ardchoille> /etc/init.d/kdm  even
[11:48] <bruno_> y a un red qui me capte? Ici Toto
[11:49] <ardchoille> I'd hit the bot trigger if I knew which language that was.
[11:49] <genii> To stop the X server you can also just simply do ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:50] <ardchoille> genii: No, that respawns it, he wants to stop it.
[11:50] <genii> Well, it respawns, yeah. If you need to do operations in between then kdm is likely better
[11:57] <vlt> Hello. How can I set the 3rd mouse button to emulate a scroll wheel? I mean clicking and then moving the mouse scrolls page up/dn (at least in Konqueror) ...
[11:59] <cWolfe> where can i go for help with a hauppauge pvr-500 mce on kubuntu?
[11:59] <crimsun> maybe #ubuntu-mythtv if you're attempting to use mythtv
[12:00] <cWolfe> na, no plans for mythtv, i was just gonna use tvtime
[12:02] <ryaren> There is a big problem in my Nvidia driver :(
[12:02] <ryaren> when i restart the X
[12:02] <ryaren> I don't get a command line
[12:03] <ryaren> just a single cursor
[12:05] <ryaren> everybody fell asleep?
[12:05] <NickPresta> I'm here
[12:05] <NickPresta> could you explain your problem in greater detail, please? what do you mean you only get a single cursor?
[12:06] <ryaren> something like this--> _
[12:07] <ryaren> when i stop X I should give somethig like this: ryaren@ryaren-desktop:~$
[12:07] <ryaren> but i didn't get that
[12:08] <NickPresta> When that happens, try pressing control+alt+F1 (you can use F1-F6, IIRC) and if that doesnt work, try: control+alt+F8
[12:09] <ryaren> i try
[12:09] <cristian> hello
[12:09] <NickPresta> hello
[12:10] <cristian> themes on compiz fusion?
[12:10] <NickPresta> Pardon? I don't understand your question. Do you want additional themes? Do you want an explanation?
[12:10] <cristian> :P a use themes
[12:11] <cristian> window decoration
[12:11] <ryaren> Yeah! it works!
[12:11] <ryaren> so my main problem is still the Nvidia driver
[12:11] <NickPresta> ryaren, all is well?
[12:11] <NickPresta> ryaren, nevermind >_>
[12:12] <NickPresta> ryaren, what problem are you having with your nvidia driver?
[12:12] <ryaren> :)
[12:12] <NickPresta> I'm going for dinner so if I don't answer ASAP, forgive me
[12:12] <ryaren> Am I too much?
[12:13] <ryaren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28565/plain/
[12:13] <ryaren> this is the problem
[12:14] <ryaren> I think my driver isn't work perfectly and it's cause the problem of take the display to my TV