[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #123880 in launchpad-bazaar "Codebrowse needs a custom 502 error page" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123880
[03:48] <siti> I am triggering a timeout bug when I enter a semi-big bug title
[03:49] <siti> I think it's searching is to slow with all those words (because it wants to find possible duplicates)
[03:53] <mpt> siti, if reloading doesn't work, go to the address field of your browser and change "+filebug" to "+filebug-advanced"
[03:53] <siti> I just made the title smaller :p
[03:53] <mpt> heh
[03:55] <siti> yeah it's happening with just bug searches as well
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #123892 in malone "Duplicate search while reporting a bug times out more often than not" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123892
[04:00] <mpt> Ok, probably it will come up on our list of most common timeouts, and people will start fixing it
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #123898 in launchpad "Project/package/person/etc fields don't auto-complete" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123898
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #123899 in malone ""Also affects: Distribution" has URL field, but "Also affects: Upstream" doesn't" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123899
[05:33] <sandrot> so I guess launchpad doesn't host bazaar repos?
[05:33] <lifeless> huh?!
[05:33] <jml> sandrot: you guess wrong :)
[05:34] <lifeless> sandrot: why do you guess tha ?
[05:35] <sandrot> sorry. jumped the gun I guess. clicked "register a branch" and saw a spot for branch url
[05:37] <sandrot> em, I still don't see it, how do I get my branch hosted?
[05:37] <lifeless>  bzr push
[05:37] <sandrot> to what url?
[05:38] <lifeless> jml: this is where thumpers idea is a positive, but I still think we dont need a db record
[05:38] <lifeless> sandrot: I don't recall where the help is, but basically - sftp
[05:38] <lifeless> sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sandrot/projectname/branchname
[05:38] <sandrot> that easy eh?
[05:38] <sandrot> and ssh key?
[05:39] <jml> sandrot: you need to upload your SSH key to Launchpad. There's an "Update SSH keys" link on your LP homepage
[05:39] <jml> https://launchpad.net/~<your_user_name>
[05:40] <lifeless> jml: so I see a 'type=hosted bazaar' page which gives you the URLs, and your ssh key status, but doesn't do DB stuff
[05:40] <jml> lifeless: i.e. it doesn't change the server in any way?
[05:42] <lifeless> right
[05:43] <jml> lifeless: I think I like that idea.
[06:03] <sandrot> is it just me or does bzr push take more time than svn commit
[06:03] <Fujitsu> sandrot: The initial push isn't comparably to svn commit.
[06:33] <thumper> jml: the above url pasted is a good place to use https://launchpad.net/people/+me
[06:34] <jml> thumper: I'd forgot about that
[06:34] <thumper> lifeless: and see, we do need it.
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #123915 in malone "Can't mark a patch as obsolete" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123915
[06:52] <lifeless> thumper: never claimed we didn't need a better ui
[06:53] <thumper> lifeless: true
[09:16] <carlos> morning
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #123956 in launchpad "Put mirrors on probation before actually disabling them" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123956
[01:32] <statik> hello world
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #123967 in launchpad-bazaar "branch scanner generates diffs irrespective of whether branch has sunscribers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123967
[01:36] <mwhudson> sunscribers oops
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #123968 in soyuz "broken security upload" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123968
[01:49] <mwhudson> i'm about to restart codebrowse, should only be down for a minute
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #123971 in rosetta "Suggestions cannot be selected on edge.launchpad.net" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123971
[02:13] <mwhudson> codebrowse restarted again
[02:16] <mwhudson> ... and one more time, sigh
[03:03] <sq89> hi! I want to create a bzr branch hosted on launchpad for my new project. at the 'Register a branch' page I have to enter a branch URL, but I haven't got one yet. is it possible to create a new branch, or should I host it somewhere else?
[03:03] <mwhudson> yes
[03:03] <mwhudson> have you looked at the help tab on that page?
[03:04] <sq89> ah, that helps, thanks :-)
[03:04] <mwhudson> np :)
[03:07] <Fujitsu> mwhudson: Not many people will think to look at the help tab, as literally everywhere other than the bzr component of LP it is useless.
[03:09] <mwhudson> Fujitsu: yeah, i know
[03:14] <sq89> if I want my launchpad hosted branch to be editable by other developers, do I have to use a team from the beginning? currently I'm still the only developer
[03:15] <sq89> or can I move the ownership to a team when there are other developers?
[03:16] <sq89> I'll probably be the only one directly committing to that branch for the next few months
[03:17] <mwhudson> you can reassign the branch to a team later
[03:17] <sq89> ok, thanks
[03:17] <sq89> what's a good name for a first branch, which is not ready for release yet? 'devel'?
[03:19] <mwhudson> sq89: yeah, that's a pretty common one :)
[03:21] <sq89> ok, thanks!
[03:58] <statik> BjornT: hi! reviewers meeting?
[03:59] <statik> hey there hobbsee
[03:59] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:03] <BjornT> statik: according to ReviewerMeetingAgenda it's at 1600 UTC (i.e. in one hour).
[04:04] <bac> two hours, no?
[04:06] <BjornT> oh, right, i meant in two hours, not one.
[04:06] <statik> BjornT: sorry about that, one of these days I will learn how to tell time
[04:06] <BjornT> statik: don't worry, we all make mistakes with time :)
[04:15] <Hobbsee> statik: timeanddate.com is your friend.
[04:16] <statik> Hobbsee: yes! that site is great. it also helps if I set google calendar back to the correct timezone when I return from a trip :)
[04:16] <Hobbsee> statik: that's also true.  the default applet for clocks in kde is also brilliant, on the kicker
[04:17] <LarstiQ> middag jtv 
[04:21] <jtv> 'navond
[04:22] <jtv> (ik ben 'n paar tijdzones opgeschoven :)
[04:22] <LarstiQ> jtv: Thailand, right?
[04:22] <jtv> right
[04:34] <jtv> (sorry about not being very conversational right now: critical bug to fix!)
[04:37] <LarstiQ> jtv: np, I routinely have conversations spanning multiple days ;)
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #124007 in launchpad "Firefox does not install midi plugin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124007
[05:37] <harry> how do I delete a launchpad accaunt?
[05:39] <salgado> harry, file a question at https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[06:03] <BjornT> time for this week's non-au reviewer meeting
[06:03] <BjornT> == Agenda ==
[06:03] <BjornT>  * Roll call
[06:03] <BjornT>  * Next meeting
[06:03] <BjornT>  * Queue status.
[06:03] <BjornT> who's here?
[06:04] <Hobbsee> no one's here, it seems.
[06:04] <bac> me
[06:04] <flacoste> me
[06:05] <salgado> me
[06:05] <statik> me
[06:06] <BjornT> == Next meeting ==
[06:06] <BjornT> i'll be at euro python next week
[06:06] <salgado> I'll be on holidays
[06:07] <BjornT> flacoste: can you chair the meeting next week?
[06:07] <flacoste> yes, i can
[06:07] <flacoste> we can move back to our regular schedule (14:00 UTC)
[06:08] <BjornT> cool. so flacoste will chair the next meeting, 2007-04-11, 1400 UTC
[06:08] <BjornT> == Queue status ==
[06:08] <BjornT> eh, 2007-07-11...
[06:09] <BjornT> the queue is rather long at the moment, 26 open reviews
[06:09] <flacoste> but it's better than yesterday i think
[06:10] <flacoste> yesterday was: 28 open reviews, 19 over target.
[06:10] <BjornT> 11 of them are over the 2-day service target
[06:10] <kiko> how many 1.1.7s?
[06:10] <flacoste> probably all of them i guess
[06:10] <flacoste> hard to tell from jamesh' script
[06:10] <BjornT> yeah, so it's an improvement. i should finish mpt's big one today.
[06:10] <flacoste> i should nail two today
[06:11] <flacoste> and will try to maintain that pace
[06:11] <kiko> I can help next week
[06:11] <BjornT> yeah, it looks like pretty much all of them are for 1.1.7
[06:11] <kiko> but not this one
[06:11] <kiko> that's a good thing, though BjornT -- lots of branches up early
[06:11] <kiko> we have 1.5 weeks for them all
[06:12] <BjornT> yeah, so i think we can do it. the main reason for the queue getting this long should be the sprint last week.
[06:12] <kiko> and there won't be new branches placed after friday
[06:12] <kiko> which is great too
[06:12] <BjornT> well, there won't be any new 1.1.7 branches
[06:13] <kiko> right
[06:14] <BjornT> there are quite a lot of small branches, a bunch of them less then 100 lines, so it shouldn't be too much trouble catching up.
[06:14] <BjornT> == Other business ==
[06:14] <BjornT> anything else?
[06:14] <flacoste> not from me
[06:15] <bac> i'd like to announce barry is my new mentor!
[06:15] <bac> good news for all.
[06:15] <flacoste> who will mentor statik for the next two weeks (as salgado is on vacation?)
[06:16] <BjornT> bac: cool
[06:16] <statik> flacoste: do you want to do it?
[06:16] <flacoste> i'd like to, but it wouldn't be realistic, i have lot of stuff for 1.1.7
[06:16] <BjornT> i'm probably a bad choice for a mentor, since i'm off on friday, and on EP 3 days next week.
[06:18] <flacoste> statik: i could mentor /some/ of the reviews
[06:18] <BjornT> statik: let's ask jamesh if he can do it. if not, i guess we could take turns on mentoring the reviews.
[06:18] <flacoste> if we don't have anybody else able to accept the responsibility completely
[06:18] <statik> BjornT, flacostesounds good
[06:18] <BjornT> i'll send a mail to jamesh about it.
[06:19] <BjornT> if nothing else, let's end the meeting. thanks for coming!
[06:19] <bac> i've got a branch from mpt that is mostly javascript.  from the first pass until now it has gotten more complicated and neither barry nor i have a lot of JS experience.  what should i do with it?
[06:20] <bac> reject or try to find a reviewer with more JS to look it over?
[06:21] <BjornT> bac: i'd say first try to find another reviewer, and reject it if you don't find any.
[06:21] <bac> BjornT: ok.  any JS experts here that could look at it?
[06:21] <BjornT> bac: you could ask SteveA if he has time to review it. he's quite involved with the javascript usage in lp.
[06:21] <bac> BjornT: ok
[06:22] <bac> is jamesh?
[06:30] <statik> so, I guess the meeting kind of fizzled out?
 if nothing else, let's end the meeting. thanks for coming!
[06:31] <kiko> statik, so...
[06:31] <statik> kiko: wow, I totally did not get that line
[06:31] <statik> the last thing I saw was "is jamesh" from bac
[06:34] <kiko> statik, it was about 7 messages up from that.
[06:34] <BjornT> statik: well, bac brought up the issue after the meeting had ended :)
[06:35] <statik> ah, so he did. my mistake
[07:48] <LaserJock> ok, I how do I get rid of a bzr branch on LP? set it to the obsolete-junk product?
[09:02] <alefteris> is there a way to ask a question at launchpad answers via email?
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #124056 in launchpad "It should be possible to offer general mentoring for a project" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124056
[09:30] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[09:31] <Nafallo> evening mpt :-)
[09:33] <mpt> LaserJock, yes, that's the best way at the moment
[09:34] <mpt> alefteris, no
[09:36] <alefteris> mpt, it would make a nice feature, especially it would make integration possible for the loco team websites :)
[09:37] <alefteris> i mean it would be possible for people to ask questions from the loco websites and those questions to be then emailed to launchpad
[09:47] <mpt> alefteris, we may solve that problem in a different way, though I'm not sure of definite plans for it
[10:30] <Yannig> Hello everybody :)
[10:31] <Yannig> Hi carlos  :)
[10:31] <carlos> Yannig: hi
[10:31] <Yannig> Any news from support-oc? :)
[10:32] <Yannig> I've just requested a CVS account for Mozilla so it may be useful one day.
[10:32] <Yannig> (but it's not in a hurry, I'm just asking because you told me it was about to be done)
[11:04] <Yannig> carlos ?
[11:04] <carlos> Yannig: sorry, didn't see your question
[11:05] <Yannig> :)
[11:06] <carlos> Hmm, I guess you talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-oc-base/+bug/83993
[11:06] <carlos> right?
[11:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 83993 in rosetta "New locale request for Occitan" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[11:06] <Yannig> Not necessarily
[11:07] <carlos> then?
[11:07] <Yannig> I told you about the fact that although OpenOffice was translated into Occitan in Rosetta, it's impossible to have it in Occitan in Ubuntu
[11:08] <carlos> to fix that bug, you need to rename all .po files in GNOME's and KDE's SVN repositories so we can do that change then in Gutsy (current development version)
[11:08] <Yannig> So you told me you were working on language-support-oc package and that it would solve the issue
[11:08] <carlos> oh, that one!
[11:08] <carlos> well, I'm not working on any package, but we are working on fix a problem that prevented us to deploy OO.org updates
[11:09] <Yannig> GNOME repositories already have only oci.po files (and no files on KDE repositories)
[11:09] <carlos> Yannig: Danilo has that task planned for this cycle (https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/82721)
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 82721 in rosetta "Downloading all translated files for a project/product in a single tarball should be possible." [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to   (danilo)
[11:09] <carlos> it should be deployed at the end of the month and then, will be able to deploy OO.org updates
[11:09] <Yannig> Thanks :)
[11:10] <carlos> Yannig: ok, could you note that in the bug report so I don't forget it and take the needed steps to do the changes in Launchpad?
[11:10] <Yannig> Fair enough :)
[11:10] <Yannig> In https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/82721 ?
[11:11] <carlos> Yannig: also, we don't have 'oci' language in Launchpad, could you provide us also with the plural forms and countries where that language is spoken? (I don't seem to have it written from previous conversations)
[11:12] <carlos> Yannig: no, in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-oc-base/+bug/83993
[11:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 83993 in rosetta "New locale request for Occitan" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[11:12] <Yannig> It's the same as 'oc' language :)
[11:12] <carlos> Yannig: ok
[11:12] <Yannig> (but it would allow us to create other Occitan translations)
[11:13] <carlos> yeah, I know, don't worry
[11:13] <carlos> please, remind me, with that change, will 'oc' be use ever?
[11:14] <Yannig> Nope
[11:15] <Yannig> In fact, oci is ISO 639-2 but the best would be to use ISO/DIS 639-3 : lnc
[11:16] <carlos> well, by default, gettext uses 639-2
[11:16] <carlos> so we should stick with that
[11:16] <carlos> although I guess if you are the only one starting Occitan translations is up to you
[11:18] <Yannig> Well, while it's 639-2, it should be oci
[11:18] <Yannig> When 639-3 is possible, we'll see :)
[11:25] <Yannig> 	<carlos>	although I guess if you are the only one starting Occitan translations is up to you
[11:25] <Yannig> What do you mean? If I wanted, I could set up lnc?
[11:26] <carlos> free/open source follows the 'first doing something decides' policy
[11:26] <carlos> so if you choose to start using lnc (if it's already approved inside ISO 639-3) instead of oci
[11:26] <carlos> it should be ok
[11:26] <Yannig> So I think "lnc" would be more appropriate
[11:27] <carlos> anyway, 'oci' is not really two letters iso codes as 639-2 is supposed to define :-P
[11:27] <Yannig> :)
[11:27] <carlos> Yannig: then you would need to do the rename (again) in GNOME...
[11:27] <Yannig> I'll do this
[11:28] <carlos> ok
[11:28] <Yannig> The only thing I need to do is renaming the files on GNOME SVN?
[11:30] <carlos> Yannig: and fix the configure.in/ac files like I guess you did for the first rename
[11:30] <Yannig> OK
[11:30] <carlos> Yannig: also, you will need to define the locale information for lnc_FR (I'm not sure whether you finally did it for oci_FR)
[11:30] <carlos> otherwise no one will be able to use those translations
[11:30] <Yannig> I've not done it for oci_FR :(
[11:34] <Yannig> I must confess I don't know at all how to do
[11:45] <carlos> Yannig: please, talk with Danilo or Jordi about it
[11:45] <carlos> they can help you
[11:45] <Yannig> Thanks :)
[11:45] <Yannig> danilos: Are you here?
[11:53] <jordi> Yannig: it'll be simple
[11:53] <jordi> I'm assuming just copying oc_FR to lnc_FR and changing the obvious references to "oc" would be enough
[11:55] <Yannig> And where can I find this file?
[11:57] <Yannig> In /etc/environment ?
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #124087 in rosetta "Rosetta shows fuzzy translations as 'used in' suggestions" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124087