[12:44] <nealmcb> dpaste.com looks like a good pastebin to use for a site like this.  I'm nervous about pastebins that publish a list of previous pastes, especially given that folks might unknowingly paste passwords and the like
[12:45] <nealmcb> the dpaste posts are still easy to enumerate - hopefully he'll use a random URL in the future
[12:46] <nealmcb> not that it would be good for secrets, but less risk than the other common pastebins
[08:44] <J-_> I'm currently having a problem with drupal hanging when I click on administer? do you know if that's a common problem with memeory_limit?
[11:13] <shawarma> J-_: If you're hitting memory_limit, I believe there should be some mention of it in the apache error log.
[12:27] <KennyTheGeek> hmm... i accidently sat a wrong name of my server when installing... now i want to change it to "ceres", i managed to change the hostname permanently, but i still have to access the server through kenny-server.local, and the users are user@kenny-server
[12:27] <KennyTheGeek> how do i change that?
[12:28] <coNP> KennyTheGeek: do the /etc/hosts entries of 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 refer to "kenny-server" or to "ceres"?
[12:28] <KennyTheGeek> ah
[12:28] <KennyTheGeek> :P
[12:30] <KennyTheGeek> is a reboot required?
[12:30] <KennyTheGeek> Now they do
[12:30] <KennyTheGeek> before 127.0.1.1 refer to kenny-server
[12:30] <KennyTheGeek> 127.0.0.1 refered to localhost
[12:31] <KennyTheGeek> well, i added another 127.0.0.1 entry, so localhosts still there :P
[12:31] <KennyTheGeek> coNP: I just changed them, do i have to reboot?
[12:32] <coNP> that is not good
[12:32] <coNP> you should replace kenny-server to ceres but localhost should stay
[12:32] <KennyTheGeek> i added another 127.0.0.1 entry
[12:32] <KennyTheGeek> didn't replace localhost
[12:32] <KennyTheGeek> im not THAT dumb
[12:32] <coNP> I don't want to say that you are dump
[12:33] <coNP> just that maybe it is better to leave that to localhost
[12:33] <coNP> and only replace kenny-server with ceres
[12:33] <KennyTheGeek> no, but it would be a liiitle dumb to change localhost to ceres...
[12:33] <KennyTheGeek> i also just removed my added entry
[12:33] <coNP> I guess a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart is enough
[12:33] <coNP> i.e., no system restart is needed
[12:33] <KennyTheGeek> k
[12:35] <KennyTheGeek> next question... i need to download a bunch of directories to the server... i can do it by x-forwarding nautilus and then drag-n-drop, but i couldn't figure out how to do it with wget... i don't want to rely it on an ssh session
[12:37] <KennyTheGeek> hmm... the server STILL only responds to kenny-server
[12:37] <coNP> hmm, do you try from the server or from another machine
[12:37] <KennyTheGeek> another machine
[12:37] <KennyTheGeek> i'm controlling the server with ssh
[12:38] <coNP> then maybe the DNS and/or /etc/hosts should be changed at the machine you try to connect the server from
[12:38] <KennyTheGeek> when typing kenny-server.local? hmm
[12:39] <KennyTheGeek> It isn't in the hosts file...
[12:40] <lcdd> it's using a local service discovery mechanism
[12:41] <lcdd> i think you at least need to restart avahi-daemon on the server
[12:41] <KennyTheGeek> yeah... but how do i update the servers service name?
[12:41] <KennyTheGeek> ah
[12:41] <lcdd> might require something else as well. i've never used that stuff
[12:41] <KennyTheGeek> YaY :P it works
[12:42] <lcdd> great
[12:42] <KennyTheGeek> thanks
[12:43] <KennyTheGeek> now, my other problem... never used wget other than for single file downloads... i need to download i ~13GiB directory structure over ftp... i want all the directories in "dir", but wget won't do it...
[12:43] <coNP> KennyTheGeek: use tar & gzip :)
[12:44] <KennyTheGeek> the computer i want to get it from is a windows machine
[12:44] <KennyTheGeek> and it's my sisters, and she is using it
[12:44] <KennyTheGeek> :P
[12:44] <KennyTheGeek> i made the machine run WarFTPD, and it is working
[12:44] <coNP> then use ftp
[12:44] <coNP> or use zip / rar whatever
[12:45] <KennyTheGeek> can i tell ftp just to download anything in a folder?
[12:45] <lcdd> mget *
[12:45] <KennyTheGeek> mget?
[12:45] <KennyTheGeek> what is mget?
[12:46] <lcdd> oh, it's a ftp command that works in text based ftp clients
[12:46] <KennyTheGeek> ah
[12:46] <KennyTheGeek> can i make ftp overwrite anything in the existing directory of my server?
[12:47] <KennyTheGeek> cause many of the files i already got is corrupted
[12:47] <lcdd> it really depends on the program you're using
[12:47] <coNP> remove all the files that might be corrupted first
[12:47] <KennyTheGeek> well, if it's commandbased, and i can set the server to do it itself...
[12:47] <KennyTheGeek> :S
[12:48] <KennyTheGeek> theres 3 GiB of files
[12:48] <KennyTheGeek> and i have no clue which it is
[12:48] <lcdd> ftp cannot tell if they are corrupted anyway
[12:48] <KennyTheGeek> i just know that ~half of them are corrupted
[12:48] <KennyTheGeek> no, i mean, can i make ftp overwrite all of it?
[12:49] <lcdd> that's the same as removing them first, isn't it? :)
[12:49] <KennyTheGeek> well, not quite... i got 1,2,3,7, the other comp got 1,2,3,4,5,6, i don't want to loose 7, and the other 6 are corrupted
[12:49] <KennyTheGeek> (just to show you what i mean)
[12:50] <KennyTheGeek> i mean, 1,2,3 on my server is dead
[12:50] <KennyTheGeek> so i want to overwrite it ith 1 2 and 3 from the other comp, wjile adding 4,5 and 6 to the catalogs
[12:50] <KennyTheGeek> but if i delete it first, i will lose 7
[12:51] <KennyTheGeek> and it will be an awfull lot of sorting files it i whould remove 1 2 and 3 first
[12:52] <KennyTheGeek> so what i want to do: if the other computer got the file, overwrite it on my server.
[12:53] <coNP> use mc and FTP
[12:53] <coNP> you can say "overwrite all" there
[12:54] <KennyTheGeek> but, the problem i had all the time is: it cannot be interactive, as i need to shut this pc down im controlling it from
[12:54] <KennyTheGeek> so i need to be able to ask cron to do it or something
[12:54] <KennyTheGeek> thats why i couldn't just use nautilus
[12:54] <KennyTheGeek> and the server has no screen/keyboard/mouse
[12:55] <lcdd> you can run console programs inside screen
[12:55] <KennyTheGeek> ?
[12:55] <KennyTheGeek> *monitor 
[12:56] <KennyTheGeek> but... well, i can't make it automaticly use midnight commander, can i?
[12:56] <coNP> what do you mean by automatically
[12:56] <lcdd> screen is basically a terminal emulator you can detach from and continue using elsewhere
[12:56] <KennyTheGeek> making the server do it by itself
[12:56] <coNP> you have to start it 
[12:57] <KennyTheGeek> lcdd: cool
[12:58] <KennyTheGeek> coNP: exactly, and if i do that through ssh, and then closes ssh... well, all the other times, my apps stopped running on the server
[01:19] <ci_omegadog> anyone here use lighttpd on Ubuntu server?  Is it pretty solid, or are there some "gotchas" that i should look out for
[01:19] <ci_omegadog> ?
[01:27] <shawarma> ci_omegadog: No Ubuntu specific ones. :)
[01:37] <ci_omegadog> shawarma, ty
[04:32] <zul> morning
[04:33] <mathiaz> zul: hi
[04:33] <bje> The following packages have unmet dependencies: expect: Depends: tcl8.4 (>= 8.4.5) but it is not going to be installed libnet-ssh-perl: Depends: ssh libpcap0.8: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 is to be installed
[04:33] <bje> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:34] <bje> Hey. I'm trying to install expect, but it bitches about libc6 that I need to upgrade.
[04:34] <bje> I don't want to :) because I installed libpcap0.8 from feisty (manually) because the Breezy version contains a bug, which is only fixed in this version (0.8)
[04:34] <bje> How do I get apt to ignore the dependancies?
[05:00] <ci_omegadog> I am trying to download activetcl using lynx.  It says it downloads the file, but i cannot find it anywhere.  
[05:02] <ci_omegadog> anyone have any ideas as to where its downloading it to?
[05:07] <resident_moron> anyone ever done a remote install with Ubuntu Server Edition??
[05:21] <jdstrand> dendrobates: could you look at my added comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/heimdal/+bug/123782
[05:25] <jdstrand> bug #123782
[05:32] <dendrobates> jdstrand: I was not able to reproduce your bug.  I'll look at it again though.
[05:33] <dendrobates> Depends: libasn1-6-heimdal, libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1), libdb4.2, libhdb7-heimdal, libkadm5srv7-heimdal, libkrb5-17-heimdal, libldap2 (>= 2.1.17-1), libroken16-heimdal, libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8c-1), heimdal-clients, logrotate, debconf (>= 0.5.00) | debconf-2.0, krb5-config, netbase, update-inetd
[05:34] <dendrobates> it seems to already depend on inetd.
[05:34] <jdstrand> it depends on update-inetd-- that doesn't provide inetd.  And neither does netbase in feisty
[05:35] <jdstrand> apt-cache search -f netbase
[05:35] <jdstrand> Package: netbase
[05:35] <jdstrand> Priority: important
[05:35] <jdstrand> Section: base
[05:35] <jdstrand> Installed-Size: 156
[05:35] <jdstrand> Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
[05:35] <jdstrand> Original-Maintainer: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>
[05:35] <jdstrand> Architecture: all
[05:35] <jdstrand> Version: 4.27ubuntu2
[05:35] <jdstrand> Depends: ifupdown (>= 0.6.4-4.9), iputils-ping | ping, lsb-base (>= 3.0-6), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, update-inetd
[05:35] <jdstrand> Conflicts: openbsd-inetd (<< 0.20050402-3), inetutils-inetd (<< 2:1.4.3+20060719-3), xinetd (<= 2.2.1-8), netstd (<< 3.00), nfs-common (<< 1:0.3.2-1), nfs-user-server (<< 2.2beta47-9), nis (<= 3.6-2), rstatd (<= 3.03-3), rwalld (<= 0.16-1), rusersd (<= 0.17-1), ugidd (<< 2.2beta47-9)
[05:36] <dendrobates> Sorry, i know that.  let me try to reproduce it in a clean vmware session
[05:36] <jdstrand> netbase (4.27ubuntu1) feisty; urgency=low
[05:36] <jdstrand>   * Merge from debian unstable, remaining changes:
[05:36] <jdstrand>     - drop dependency on inet superserver
[05:36] <jdstrand>     - drop /etc/network/options, migrate to sysctl
[05:36] <jdstrand>     - start networking only once
[05:37] <jdstrand> I just saw that last one
[05:38] <jdstrand> apparently that is no longer a remaining change...
[05:45] <ci_omegadog> does anyone know if there is a deb for the 3.4 version of SQLite?
[05:46] <ci_omegadog> I fear compiling tar balls- its not like i'm using Slack :"
[05:48] <mathiaz> ci_omegadog: the latest version in gutsy is 3.4
[05:48] <mathiaz> ci_omegadog: libsqlite3-0 (3.4.0-0ubuntu1)
[05:50] <ci_omegadog> mathiaz: how can i get that deb if i am running Dapper?
[05:50] <ci_omegadog> so sorry about this- i am a tcl dev, not a sys admin
[05:52] <coNP> ci_omegadog: try to get the dapper sources and compile it for yourself
[05:52] <ci_omegadog> but dapper doesn't use 3.4
[05:52] <dendrobates> jdstrand:  I verified it in feisty now.  Something else provided inetd on my previous test.  Let me check gutsy.
[05:53] <jdstrand> dendrobates: thanks
[05:53] <coNP> sorry, ci_omegadog I mean get the gutsy sources
[05:54] <ci_omegadog> ioic
[06:22] <nealmcb> could one of you packaging gurus look at my problem installing kerberos on dapper? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121923
[06:22] <nealmcb> it works on feisty.
[06:24] <ci_omegadog> in trying to compile the gutsy sqlite3 3.4 sources, i just keep hitting dependancy after dependancy
[06:24] <ci_omegadog> just like the bad old days
[06:25] <shawarma> ci_omegadog: apt-get build-dep sqlite3
[06:25] <shawarma> ci_omegadog: ftw!
[06:30] <ci_omegadog> cool
[06:30] <ci_omegadog> i'm on a vps 
[06:30] <ci_omegadog> i can start from scratch in lterally 2 mins :)
[06:31] <ci_omegadog> i'm going to have to change my /etc/apt/sources.list to all gutsy
[06:31] <ci_omegadog> what could possibly go wrong :)
[06:33] <ci_omegadog> hmmm- i already have deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[06:33] <ci_omegadog> how do apt-get build-dep from sources only?
[06:33] <ci_omegadog> does that make sense?
[06:33] <dthacker> [Wed Jul 04 11:27:13 2007]  [error]  VirtualHost www.bluestrain.net:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results
[06:34] <ci_omegadog> dthacker
[06:34] <dthacker> there are no * ports in the virtual host file, so what is it complaining about. 
[06:34] <ci_omegadog> dthacker: i've run into this before
[06:34] <ci_omegadog> hmmm
[06:35] <ci_omegadog> its not in the Virtual host file that the * is located
[06:35] <ci_omegadog> darn
[06:35] <ci_omegadog> if i had a memory, i could help you :)
[06:35] <ci_omegadog> ask in #apache
[06:35] <dthacker> agrees with ci_omegadog :)
[06:35] <ci_omegadog> its a faq
[06:35] <dthacker> I shall google the error...
[06:38] <ci_omegadog> whoo-hoo- here we go
[06:46] <ci_omegadog> okay, its done i have the debs
[06:46] <ci_omegadog> now how do i apt-get update to include the current debs in the ./ directory?
[06:46] <ci_omegadog> does anyone know?
[06:48] <mathiaz> ci_omegadog: I can install the new deb with dpkg -i ./packge.deb
[06:48] <dthacker> ci_omegadog: can't you just use dpkg?
[06:48] <dthacker> hehe
[06:48] <ci_omegadog> that is what i'm doing 
[06:48] <ci_omegadog> and its got the dependency debs in the dir with it
[06:49] <ci_omegadog> but i think since apt-get doesn't know to look in the PWD for the dependency debs
[06:49] <ci_omegadog> it fails
[06:49] <ci_omegadog> ei
[06:49] <ci_omegadog> err ie
[06:49] <ci_omegadog> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sqlite3:
[06:49] <ci_omegadog>  sqlite3 depends on libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.4.0); however:
[06:49] <ci_omegadog>   Package libsqlite3-0 is not installed.
[06:50] <shawarma> ci_omegadog: It can't.
[06:50] <ci_omegadog> libsqlite3-0 is in fact in the pwd
[06:50] <shawarma> You can install multiple packages at a time with dpkg, though.
[06:50] <ci_omegadog> hmm
[06:50] <ci_omegadog> k
[06:51] <ci_omegadog> COOL
[06:52] <shawarma> :)
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> i'm sure my system is somehow hosed
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> but
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> root@slice1:/tcl# sqlite3
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> Loading resources from /root/.
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> SQLite version 3.4.0
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> Enter ".help" for instructions
[06:52] <ci_omegadog> sqlite>
[06:53] <ci_omegadog> ty everyone
[06:53] <ci_omegadog> now for more fun
[06:53] <ci_omegadog> i'm gonna update :)
[06:54] <ci_omegadog> err upgrade
[06:57] <dendrobates> jdstrand: I uploaded a fix for gutsy.  Thanks, for staying on top of this one.  In Debian, netbase depends on inetd, but we have changed that in Ubuntu.  I was confused. 
[06:57] <ci_omegadog> wow- i can still log in to my vps
[06:57] <ci_omegadog> very nice
[06:58] <jdstrand> dendrobates: np.  so the fix is in heimdal-kdc?
[06:59] <ci_omegadog> the only problem seems to be with fdutils
[06:59] <ci_omegadog> which on a VPS is moot, i imagine
[07:00] <zul> has anyone tried vserver in gutsy?
[07:03] <ci_omegadog> COOL
[07:03] <ci_omegadog> root@slice1:/tcl# tclsh
[07:03] <ci_omegadog> % package require sqlite3
[07:03] <ci_omegadog> 3.4.0
[07:12] <ci_omegadog> i cannot believe it
[07:13] <ci_omegadog> i did a dist-upgrade on my VPS, rebooted, and its still running fine
[07:13] <ci_omegadog> amazing
[07:13] <ci_omegadog> super cow powers indeed!
[07:22] <dendrobates> jdstrand:  Yes in gutsy.  It won't show up yet though.  The problem was caused by a difference in the dependencies for netbase in Debian and Ubuntu.   I fixed it by adding the dependencies to heimdal-kdc.
[07:23] <jdstrand> dendrobates: thanks