[02:03] <ceil420> does anybody know how i can set .txt files to open in Mousepad by default? i got an IDE the other day, and it's a wonderful program, but it seems to have made itself the default application for text files, and it's just too "big" for when i want to edit a simple .txt :x
[02:04] <zials> well, you can set it by: right click -> properties
[02:04] <ceil420> ah, thanks
[02:04] <ceil420> coulda swore i looked at that; don't know how i missed it
[02:46] <derjens> hi everybody
[02:47] <derjens> i am preparing a xubuntu box for my mum... it needs kernel parameter acpi=force to poweroff perfectly
[02:48] <derjens> i guess updates do change the menu.lst of grub, don't they?
[02:48] <derjens> how to make xubuntu keep this parameter when updates come in?
[02:51] <BFTD> derjens you can't but its very easy to add it
[02:52] <derjens> BFTD, please explain this in detail. i could add it to the menu.lst but when my mum runs an update it will be destroyed, won't it?
[02:52] <derjens> (an update that covers GRUB, of course)
[02:52] <BFTD> derjens no, when it gets updated stuff is only added to the menu.lst
[02:53] <derjens> sounds great:)
[02:53] <BFTD> derjens all you have to do is add acpi=force to the kernel section in the menu.lst
[02:53] <derjens> thanks so far!
[02:53] <BFTD> you'll need to add it to the new section that'll be added
[02:54] <derjens> does xubuntu introduce new kernel versions to old versions? i mean, will this box ever see an update with kernel 2.6.22 or whatever?
[02:54] <BFTD> well
[02:54] <BFTD> it'll add the newest it can
[02:54] <derjens> wonderful
[02:55] <BFTD> but ti won't erase the old one if thats what you mean
[02:55] <BFTD> so if the newest one doesn't work
[02:55] <BFTD> you can always resort back to the old one
[02:56] <derjens> yeah, problem is that i would have to add the "acpi=force" to every new kernel that is installed, right? no real problem actually
[02:57] <BFTD> derjens no you can jsut add it to the one you're gonna use
[02:57] <BFTD> you only use one kernel at a time
[03:00] <derjens> BFTD, does that mean when a new kernel is installed xubuntu will keep using the old one until i change menu.lst by hand?
[03:01] <BFTD> derjens no it uses the newest one unless you change it
[03:01] <derjens> BFTD, sorry for asking stupid questions but i don't get it... this is what i expect to happen:
[03:02] <derjens> now i have kernel 2.6.21 and add "acpi=force" to this particular entry in menu.lst
[03:03] <derjens> in some months a new kernel will say hello and a new entry for it will be added to menu.lst. with default parameters! xubuntu will boot this kernel as it is the newest one. so it will boot without "acpi=force"
[03:04] <derjens> i hope you now know what i wanna say
[03:04] <BFTD> derjens yes, however you can add the parameter BEFORE it boots
[03:05] <derjens> BFTD, okay. you're right -- *I* can do that. but my mum really *can't* do that:-) so i will have to teach her a bit
[03:05] <derjens> but i've understood the way xubuntu works in this aspect. thanks for answering!
[03:06] <BFTD> derjens just set up ssh on her system and do it yourself
[03:07] <BFTD> derjens I had a similar problem with my sister who lives a few hundred miles away, so I just installed ssh and did it that way
[03:07] <ceil420> uhm... oops :x i just xkill'd desktop <_< what's the command to bring it back?
[03:07] <ceil420> xfce-desktop or sumn?
[03:08] <BFTD> ceil420 yeah or xfdesktop
[03:08] <BFTD> let me look
[03:08] <BFTD> yeah its xfdesktop
[03:08] <ceil420> that sounds familiar
[03:08] <ceil420> thanks o/
[03:08] <derjens> BFTD, thanks for the idea with ssh. maybe this is a solution:)
[03:08] <ceil420> note to self: when checking out your "pirate" cursor, *right* click somewhere :x
[03:24] <cellofellow> what is that command to see the code for certain keys? something like that.
[03:30] <cellofellow> what device can I cat to get the input of the keyboard?
[03:32] <cellofellow> I've got a new keyboard. It has an Internet launcher button. How do I set that to run Firefox?
[04:08] <keb> does anyone know where the default firewall rules are set in 7.0.4?
[04:10] <keb> there are a bunch of protocols in there i never heard of, like ESP and AH
[04:14] <BFTD> keb they're run by iptables
[04:14] <BFTD> so run this command
[04:14] <BFTD> iptables -L
[04:14] <keb> yes i ran that to see the rules
[04:15] <keb> but who put the rules there?
[04:15] <keb> i'm not running firestarter or shorewall
[04:15] <BFTD> sometimes when you install some programs or configure something it'll change it
[04:16] <BFTD> some are just standard to iptables
[04:16] <BFTD> I know that some, addons in ff2 did this
[04:17] <keb> final fantasy 2?
[04:18] <BFTD> ?
[04:18] <BFTD> Firefox 2
[04:18] <keb> oic
[04:20] <keb> how do i reset the system to no rules so that it stays that way when it reboots?
[04:20] <cellofellow> delete the script file that sets that up in the first place
[04:21] <keb> thats what i'm looking for
[04:23] <prcrash> n00b question... every program that is made for gnome should work on XFCE, right?
[04:24] <cellofellow> yes, and no
[04:24] <cellofellow> It will run, it will look OK, (native GTK) but it will slow you way down and bog you down with unneeded GNOME libraries.
[04:38] <jrsims_> Hey, does anyone know how to get xinerama working? I'm on a thinkpad and want to use my external display.
[04:38] <jrsims_> I'm so confused. if I knew where to start, that would be helpful.
[04:43] <cellofellow> !xinerama | jrsims_
[04:44] <ubotu> jrsims_: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:27] <jrsims_> hmm. Will xinerama also let me just send video out of my laptop's external video port? Usually, this means I need to turn off my laptop monitor if I want to get high resolution out of my external monitor.
[05:28] <Ramon> hello :=
[05:28] <Ramon> Im having an issue with the "rinetd" program... I was redirecting all the traffic to a port from an ip to another one on the same port... but now rinetd is stopping itself..
[05:28] <Ramon> when I check it with ps aux | grep rinetd its not there
[05:37] <FactTech> Newbie Question: I installed Xubuntu 6.10 without realizing that I had disabled the floppy disk drive controller in the BIOS. As a result, I can't seem to mount the drive, and there is no entry in /etc/fstab for it. Do I need to do anything other than add an fstab entry?
[05:37] <cellofellow> Enable it in BIOS, and add fstab entry. That doesn't auto-add anyway for some reason.
[05:38] <Ramon> cellofellow
[05:39] <Ramon> .... do you know about rinetd?
[05:39] <FactTech> cellofellow: So once I set up the fstab entry I should be able to mount it? I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the help!
[05:51] <Ramon> hello.. how can I redirect from one ip to another ip
[05:51] <Ramon> ?
[05:52] <cellofellow> no idea
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> Ramon: more specifically?
[05:54] <FactTech> cellofellow: It's looking like it's working. Thank you!
[05:54] <cellofellow> :-)
[05:56] <Ramon> tonyyarusso:  ok let me explain.. I have one public Ip working with "no-ip.org"..and I have a website hosted in one of the computers on my private lan...
[05:57] <Ramon> the thing is that I need to redirect from the public ip to the private ip... on the same ports
[05:57] <cellofellow> port forwarding then
[05:57] <Ramon> I used rinetd... but it stops working :S
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> Ramon: Set up port forwarding on the router.
[05:57] <Ramon> It is not possible :S it has no web configuration or telnet or anything
[05:57] <cellofellow> that's screwy
[05:57] <Ramon> but i can route with the box with the public ip
[05:58] <Ramon> i did it with rinetd
[05:58] <cellofellow> go to portforward.com and see if that router is in the list.
[05:58] <Ramon> for examples redirect all the connections to the public ip (201.x.x.x) on port 80 for example to 192.x.x.x on port 80
[05:58] <Ramon> cellofellow.. believe me it is not.. (i live in el salvador).. my ips modified it :S they have us so fucked up
[05:59] <cellofellow> oh, joy
[05:59] <Ramon> :(
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> ...
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> change ISPs
[06:00] <Ramon> hahahahahhahahaha
[06:00] <Ramon> not possible :S the others don't offer public ip's
[06:00] <cellofellow> El Salvador, buddy.
[06:00] <cellofellow> Why is it always the cheap ISPs that block you with stupid NATs?
[06:00] <gerro> who was in here yesterday complaining about their xfce icon theme not working? I have a few solutions that might help
[06:01] <Ramon> hahahahhaha hate it man haha
[06:01] <gerro> cellofellow: because they're cheap as heck and only have a few IPs?
[06:01] <cellofellow> I guess that makes sense
[06:02] <gerro> ceil420: your the one with the icon thing right?
[06:02] <ceil420> ?
[06:02] <ceil420> i made cursors, if that's what you mean
[06:02] <gerro> ah damn it was cursors!... I have such horrible memory.. :/
[06:02] <ceil420> i don't think i'm up to making an icon set yet <_< looked in the Gnome folder and there's 737 of 'em for a full set
[06:04] <gerro> ceil420: check synaptic for xffm4-icons though if you ever decide to do a theme, its a nice little tool
[06:05] <gerro> don't think it has any cursor stuff
[06:06] <ceil420> eh, cursors are easy enough, once you can find a list of everything you need to make a cursor for
[06:06] <ceil420> i finally found a page with all 77 of 'em o/
[06:07] <gerro> ceil420: if you ever go to release your cursor theme can I be a beta testor ;)
[06:08] <ceil420> heh sure; i've just made the basic cursors so far, though, nothing special for the "gumby" or "sailboat" and stuff like that
[06:08] <ceil420> but i'm playin' a game atm, so i'll do that later :p
[06:08] <gerro> aww I wish I had a game :(
[06:09] <cellofellow> there are plenty of Linux games. ;0
[06:09] <cellofellow> ;)
[06:12] <Jester45> gerro, apt-cache search game
[06:12] <Jester45> lots and lots
[06:13] <gerro> but I already beaten all thems too easy :P
[11:24] <Juz_moi> how do I add a drive /dev/sdc to /etc/fstab with this uu stuff I'm lost
[11:34] <TheSheep> Juz_moi: just add it as /dev/sdc
[11:34] <TheSheep> Juz_moi: or you can use vol_id to get the UUID of thet partition
[11:34] <Juz_moi> how do I determine if it's ext3 or reiser ?
[11:35] <Juz_moi> how do I do the vol_id thing?
[11:35] <ablomen> Juz_moi, sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
[11:35] <ablomen> you dont have to use the vol_id thing
[11:35] <Juz_moi> ok don't have to but what is the command for it?
[12:08] <bjwebb> hi
[12:08] <bjwebb> is gutenprint included in xubuntu by default?
[12:23] <OMGLAZERS> Hey everyone im trying to unhide a file which I dont think a script is able to find but after using 'show hidden files' I can. Its .config in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic (and non generic). How can I disable a file from hiding itself.
[12:24] <OMGLAZERS> Oh wait. It doesnt show files that begin with a . ?
[12:24] <totalwormage> correct
[12:25] <ushortcakeu> hey guys
[12:25] <ushortcakeu> i'm having a tough time
[12:25] <totalwormage> though the dot is part of its name, so you probably don't want to change it name to make it unhidden
[12:26] <ushortcakeu> i'm using breezy and i dont want to upgrade
[12:26] <bjwebb> breezy :O
[12:26] <ushortcakeu> but my sources are all messed up
[12:26] <ushortcakeu> i cant install k3b
[12:26] <ushortcakeu> and i cant figure out why
[12:26] <ushortcakeu> i have them on paste bin
[12:27] <ushortcakeu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28463/
[12:27] <ushortcakeu> thats the error
[01:37] <elbing>  I have not sound with an Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02). there is an HSF modem with same identity in lspci, it's not important and I can't unplugg it from BIOS. Any idea?
[04:01] <gerro> got this lexmark X83 plugged up but don't know how to set it up and googled around seems linux drivers for it aren't in existence.. or at least for the printing function but not scanning
[04:01] <gerro> shame I never really messed with printers on any OS
[04:02] <gerro> are the lexmark models generally not that good or is it just the multi functional ones
[04:04] <gerro> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=1423 looks like that might work but wonder if it already in ubuntu feisty :/
[04:37] <cellofellow> I think I know why graphics+nopassword sudo doesn't work: it's in the X configurations. Su doesn't work either.
[04:40] <cellofellow> where is the X security settings kept?
[04:53] <hoelk> hi, are there any *bunty repositories for installing the newest xfce version without upgrading to gutsy aplha?
[04:53] <hoelk> couldn't google any :/
[04:53] <vinze> Not that I'm aware of
[04:54] <hoelk> hmpf :/
[04:54] <vinze> Do you experience any bugs then? It's just a maintainance release...
[04:55] <hoelk> not really, still it would be nice to try out themost recent version
[04:55] <hoelk> also 4.4.2 will have some improvements and that will be the same situation
[04:55] <rustalot> does xubuntu use gdm?
[04:55] <vinze> rustalot, yes
[04:56] <vinze> ;)
[05:19] <vinze> Whatever, as long as the purpose is the same ;)
[05:21] <Pumpernickel> It sounds a lot like Debian unstable.
[05:21] <vinze> Yeah, true
[05:22] <vinze> On the other hand, the six month release schedule also has some advantages I guess
[05:22] <vinze> I'll manage with the current situation ;-)
[05:22] <cellofellow> oh, I get it. Grumpy would make a great name. Describes the constant state of the users trying to get incompatible packages all lined up.
[05:23] <vinze> Exactly :P
[05:23] <vinze> Ah well, in two months I'll have switched to Gutsy, and then I'm happy again :P
[05:24] <cellofellow> I use getdeb.net to install updates to some of favorite programs. The rest I'm happy with the mostly-stable stuff in Feisty.
[05:26] <cellofellow> I think grumpy make make normal Ubuntu more stable. They use that to fix problems instead of the Ubuntu or Ubuntu+1 release.
[05:27] <vinze> Lot of work though
[05:27] <vinze> Getdeb is cool
[05:27] <cellofellow> (But now, Ubuntu has a three stage development like Debian: Always Unstable, Working on It, and Stable.)
[05:27] <cellofellow> GetDeb and Gdebi make installing software almost Windows-esk. Good for newbs.
[05:28] <cellofellow> Actually, Ubuntu now has Five stages: Debian Sid (it's based on that) Grumpy, Ubuntu+1, Ubuntu, Ubuntu LTS.
[05:29] <cellofellow> Source Stuff, Unstable, Development, Stable, Really Stable
[05:29] <vinze> Well, Grumpy isn't actually active
[05:29] <cellofellow> Well, once it gets going.
[05:29] <vinze> I don't expect it ever will :P
[05:30] <cellofellow> vinze: you know anything about the X authority or security settings? Stuff run with sudo can't connect to the X server.
[05:30] <vinze> Nope :(
[05:30] <vinze> Sorry
[05:30] <cellofellow> where might I find this stuff out?
[05:30] <vinze> Ubuntu wiki? Google? Ubuntuguide.org?
[05:31] <illu45> Try an ubuntuforums.org search
[05:31] <cellofellow> OK. I bet the Gentoo wiki has some stuff on that too.
[05:31] <vinze> Probably
[05:31] <Pumpernickel> Is gksudo affected, too?
[05:31] <illu45> Google will probably work if you have a specific error message
[05:31] <cellofellow> It's pretty generic
[05:32] <cellofellow> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:32] <cellofellow> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:32] <cellofellow> I know X has connection control.
[05:32] <vinze> That's what I get when I try to run a graphical application after I did "su vincent" in my sister's account
[05:33] <cellofellow> It does it when using sudo with nopasswd
[05:34] <cellofellow> I think it's GDM that sets the Xauth settings.
[05:35] <cellofellow> !xauth
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xauth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <cellofellow> bah
[05:36] <vinze> Wild guess: how about "sudo xhost +"?
[05:37] <Pumpernickel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437646
[05:38] <cellofellow> thanks Pumpernickel
[05:41] <cellofellow> It worked!
[05:41] <vinze> Congrats :D
[05:41] <cellofellow> Gonna add that command to my startup stuff.
[05:42] <cellofellow> maxamillion is gonna be both sad and happy about my figuring this out. He was glad I had found a problem in Ubuntu. :p
[05:42] <vinze> So why would he be sad?
[05:42] <vinze> Or was it the other way around :P
[05:42] <cellofellow> Cause he's Mr Debian.
[05:42] <vinze> Ah right :P
[05:46] <vinze> Please don't let Firefox crash...
[05:46] <vinze> Merde.
[05:48] <cellofellow> Yeah! Gdebi-GTK works now.
[05:49] <cellofellow> Yesterday I got OpenAL (game sound) working, today Root and X. I;m on a roll.
[05:50] <cellofellow> I have Root set up with a different GTK theme than my user, so I can tell which is which. Kinda cool that way.
[06:43] <habeeb> Hey, I'm thinking of switching from Kubuntu to Xubuntu. What media players are suggested for Xubuntu? Amarok uses the Qt libs, so it's a no. Rhythmbox uses the GTK libs, so it's a no too. What do I use?
[06:47] <Catoptromancy> i like xfmedia
[06:49] <habeeb> Wikipedia says it uses a GTK+ gui.
[06:49] <habeeb> That means that I can run Rhythmbox without pulling any additional libs?
[06:49] <habeeb> Also, that Migrating Documents and Settings thingie in the installer, will import stuff from Kubuntu?
[06:49] <vinze> Nope
[06:58] <kalikiana> Is there a tool which converts firefox bookmarks to xbel?
[07:01] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: you're here?
[07:08] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: always
[07:09] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: you were right, screen truly rocks
[07:10] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I know :)
[07:10] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ripping dvds is fun with it
[07:11] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I didn't know you oculd rip dvds with screen O.o
[07:12] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: sure you can... by running a self-made script... well, I have the isos already on my hdd and now I can just confortable cycle through the list of dvds ;)
[07:12] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: and check at work how it goes
[07:13] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: how many burners do you have? O.o
[07:14] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: 1... I mean convert them to mp4/ogg and then make mkvs out of them :) but I did rip all the 31 dvds from B5 that I got to my hadd
[07:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: but wouldn't it be better to rip them all in a loop?
[07:21] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: well, it's not that bad as it is now :)
[07:21] <hyper_ch> this way I just rip one dvd after the other
[07:22] <Catoptromancy> whats a good ogg editer that lets you add video?
[07:22] <Catoptromancy> all the ones ive found are audio
[07:23] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: I use it also for audio only
[07:24] <Catoptromancy> but im pretty ogg can have tons of stuff in it
[07:24] <Catoptromancy> pretty sure*
[07:24] <hyper_ch> why not using matroska if you also want to use video?
[07:24] <Catoptromancy> I have a really good audio software already
[07:25] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: you make .oggs from the audio?
[07:25] <Catoptromancy> from any format
[07:25] <Catoptromancy> excet midi
[07:25] <Catoptromancy> except
[07:25] <hyper_ch> I mean you convert to .ogg-audio?
[07:25] <Catoptromancy> ya
[07:26] <hyper_ch> you can still do that with matroska
[07:26] <Catoptromancy> cool
[07:30] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: that's how I currently create all the individual files:   http://phpfi.com/247299   (found the howto in ubuntuforums.org )
[07:30] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: and then I run mmg to create the matroska container
[07:33] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273635
[07:47] <Jester45> BFTD, havent seen him yet
[07:48] <Jester45> anyone know how to set apache up for making users have the host/~user/ url
[07:49] <BFTD> ask in #ubuntu-server
[07:49] <BFTD> Jester45 yeah today is the 4th, I don't expect him to be on
[07:50] <Jester45> i might know how
[07:50] <hyper_ch> Jester45: the usermod must be enabled I think
[07:51] <Jester45> well
[07:51] <Jester45> its working on one user
[07:51] <Jester45> but i didnt set that up
[07:51] <Jester45> BFTD, i know how
[08:12] <Lectus> Have anyone compared speed of Xubuntu with other XFCE distros like Vector, ZenWalk, etc... I really like Xubuntu, but I'd like to view how it compares in speed and memory usage...
[08:12] <Lectus> anyone?
[08:13] <BFTD> Lectus yes I have
[08:14] <BFTD> I've compared it to zenwalk
[08:14] <BFTD> they're almost the same
[08:14] <BFTD> in some cases Xubuntu will be faster
[08:14] <BFTD> in others zenwalk will
[08:14] <Jester45> xubuntu has a larger repo. so you can install more programs without the need to compile or get third party packages
[08:15] <Lectus> i really like Xubuntu community, and ubuntu repos available in Xubuntu. I think I'll really install Xubuntu. I think it's not worth the trouble installing other distros to get a 0.1% performance increase
[08:16] <BFTD> Zenwalk uses tarball so you're actually very limited on what you can install with the package manager
[08:16] <Lectus> yes... I really like running at maximum performance. That's why I'll install Xubuntu on my new powerful machine :D
[08:17] <Lectus> I was using Xubuntu before on other machine
[08:17] <Lectus> it's the best OS I've even installed
[08:17] <Lectus> I keep trying other distros
[08:17] <Lectus> but Xubuntu really is the best
[08:17] <twiggz> lol.
[08:17] <Lectus> I think my distro search is over
[08:17] <Lectus> :)
[08:18] <Diana> hi
[08:19] <BFTD> Lectus you want power?
[08:19] <Diana> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop that uses wireless and i was wondering if anyone could help me configure it.
[08:19] <Lectus> I'm searching for a powerful and *really* fast distro
[08:20] <Lectus> But the ones I've tried like Arch Linux, etc... all gave me more trouble than happy times
[08:20] <Lectus> Xubuntu is fast and easy. I guess I won't find anything better.
[08:20] <Jester45> Lectus, gentoo is nice once you get it setup
[08:21] <Lectus> Jester45: Yes. But gentoo always looks like "beta" to me. I really want a binary, easy to install but really fast distro.
[08:21] <BFTD> Lectus first, install ubtuntu minimal on your system, then add the XFCE packages and build your XFCE system up from there
[08:21] <BFTD> that'll get you a really powerful system
[08:22] <Lectus> BFTD: I think I prefer what I did before: Install Xubuntu to get cool defaults and the remove/add/customize things.
[08:22] <Jester45> Lectus, thats what i do
[08:23] <hyper_ch> customize?
[08:23] <Lectus> Xubuntu already is very minimal, without the need to recompile things.
[08:24] <Jester45> hyper_ch, like me i remove lots and lots of packages and allmost all the .desktop files because i like a small menu
[08:24] <R[a] ndom> I never use the menu
[08:24] <Jester45> things that i know the command to launch or things dont need like network config i remove it
[08:25] <Lectus> I tried Arch Linux, installed the base system. But xorg always gave me trouble. I'm starting to think distros "from scratch" are not really good. it's easier to install xubuntu and remove things than install slackware for example and add things
[08:25] <hyper_ch> the only things I removed was thunderbird and abiword
[08:27] <Jester45> i open synaptic sort by installed/not installed and i start removeing
[08:50] <m4rk> hi all. just got my first xubuntu going on a dell L400
[08:50] <m4rk> is there any way to stick things in the tray instead of the taskbar in xubuntu?
[08:50] <m4rk> woo hoo
[08:50] <twiggz> use applications that make use of the system tray..
[08:52] <m4rk> there has to be a better way
[08:52] <m4rk> if only I could harness the power of IRC to find out how it's done
[08:53] <Jester45> or the power of google
[08:53] <twiggz> applications that will use the system tray usually have a plugin to do so.
[08:53] <twiggz> xchat, audacious, pidgin...etc
[08:54] <Jester45> azureus
[08:54] <Jester45> grip
[08:54] <twiggz> I just use zenwalk, all of this is already set up nicely.
[08:55] <twiggz> Ubuntu is too fat for my wishes.
[08:55] <twiggz> heh
[08:55] <m4rk> well it's too late for me
[08:56] <godless> there is a way
[08:56] <godless> I stumbled accross it while looking at stuff about wine and utorrent
[08:56] <godless> let me see if I can retrace my steps
[08:57] <m4rk> i found it, alltray looks like it might do the trick
[09:01] <godless> alltray is the one I was thinking of yes
[09:02] <godless> let us know if it does what you want
[09:02] <godless> I've never used alltray, just what you were asking sounded like it might be doable with that
[09:10] <m4rk> hmm it looks a bit retarded
[11:07] <KenSentMe> What is the Xfce equivalent of 'Connect to server' using ssh in Gnome?
[11:08] <vidd_laptop> KenSentMe, you mean in command line?
[11:08] <KenSentMe> vidd_laptop, no, i want to copy some files from another system through ssh
[11:09] <KenSentMe> So i want to have a graphical interface to the files on another system
[11:09] <vidd_laptop> hrm....i dont think there IS a default option like that
[11:09] <vidd_laptop> get pyneighborhood
[11:09] <vidd_laptop> !pyneighborhood
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyneighborhood - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <vidd_laptop> !pyneighberhood
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyneighberhood - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <KenSentMe> i will check that, thanks
[11:23] <KenSentMe> vidd_laptop, yep, that works after installing samba on the other machine. Thanks
[11:23] <vidd_laptop> glad to hear it
[11:34] <Lectus> I got Xubuntu running. I place a xfce4-mixer icon on the panel to control the volume.
[11:34] <Lectus> I changed the volume
[11:34] <Lectus> and now the music won't play anymore?
[11:34] <Lectus> can anyone help me?
[11:54] <elbing> yesterday, linux-restricted-modules was upgraded. I've got nvidia installed through envy (ok, it's  not usual, but this nvidia is not too) and since that upgrade xserver fails looking for nvidia.ko under '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/'. I've copied module two times, but in any reboot it dissapears
[11:54] <elbing> should I reinstall nvidia driver?
[11:54] <elbing> wtf is ../volatile?
[11:55] <elbing> the normal site to nvidia.ko is /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/nvidia/
[11:57] <crimsun> it's a mountpoint
[11:57] <crimsun> and it's named volatile because, well, the mountpoint is volatile.
[11:58] <crimsun> essentially, the Linux license does not permit shipping binary-only proprietary globs as part of the image, so it's maintained separated and only linked in at runtime.
[11:58] <crimsun> (hence, volatile)
[12:01] <elbing> ok, is it possible to set up a script that copy nvidia.ko before starting X or my wife will kill me?
[12:02] <elbing> it's her laptop
[12:15] <elbing> fixed reinstalling driver. Thanks about volatile