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LeeJunFanIs previewing pdf's in konqueror icons broken or is there some new dep in gutsy for it?01:38
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LeeJunFanAh, I see kghostview doesn't work either, but kpdf does.01:56
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ScottKHobbsee: I got sick of trying to learn how to deal with bzr (I will, just not this week) so you've got the dependency changes for S/MIME by default in your bugmail.05:35
HobbseeScottK: heh, fair enough05:35
HobbseeScottK: it's been problematic here too, for some reason05:35
ScottKIt's Bug #12407405:36
ScottKThe bot is very slow tonight.05:36
Hobbseeoh dear05:36
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ScottKhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12407405:37
ScottKpitti promoted pinentry earlier today and so it should be safe to do this change now.05:38
HobbseeScottK: kleopatra is still in universe too05:39
ScottKYes, but it's just recommends.  Is that a problem?05:41
ScottKIt's not an issue to leave it suggests if it is.05:41
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HobbseeScottK: ahhh, right, yes.  where recommends dont get instaleld by default, if it's not a metapackage05:42
Hobbseeso that's fine05:42
ScottKCool,  I thought moving it to recommends made sense since certificate management is a royal PITA without it.05:43
ScottKWow.05:44
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 124074 in kdepim "Dependency changes for S/MIME and GPG by default in kmail" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12407405:48
ScottK12 minutes.  Not bad.05:49
Hobbseehehe05:49
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nixternalI am guessing the only dependency I will need to build here for KDE 4 alpha 2 is the Soprano library06:23
ScottKHobbsee: any idea what the timeline is for the next kdepim upload?06:23
HobbseeScottK: when someone does it?06:24
HobbseeScottK: do you want to check around for any more fixes & patches for it?06:24
nixternalHobbsee: we have any universe/multiverse things that need to get done asap?06:24
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nixternalor anything actually06:24
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nixternalno need for a shower and breakfast!06:24
HobbseeScottK: that'd be cool06:24
Hobbseenixternal: i blackout / whiteout without food.06:24
nixternalya me too :)06:24
Hobbseenixternal: go thru the apt-cache unmet -i stuff06:24
nixternaland now you talking about food got me hungry06:25
nixternalHobbsee: will do06:25
Hobbsee:)06:25
ScottKnixternal: Go to #ubuntu-motu and ask StevenK what's up with libcurl.06:25
Hobbseehah, dont do that06:25
nixternalhell no06:25
ScottKThen stand back.06:25
Hobbseehe's in the process of fixing it all06:25
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nixternalman, he sure has uploaded a ton today that's for sure06:25
Hobbseebtw - stevenk doesnt really get angry - so he wont blast you06:25
crimsunspeaking of food, still lunch tomorrow, ScottK?06:25
nixternalstill, libcurl is a touchy subject right now :)06:25
ScottKYes.06:25
crimsunk.06:25
Hobbseeyeah, well06:25
ScottKcrimsun: How aobut Italian?06:26
crimsunScottK: sounds prime.06:26
ScottKaobut/about06:26
nixternalargh!06:26
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ScottKOK.  I'll come pick you up.  I'll get close and then call for specifics.06:26
crimsunOk06:26
ScottKThere's a place near Columbia Mall that I haven't had bad food at yet.06:27
crimsunk06:27
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manchickenYou all had a kubuntu meeting on the fourth of July?06:42
manchickenThat's the time of year when I get to go out and see people blow stuff up.06:42
manchickenSorry, but kubuntu meetings can't compete with fire and explosions.06:42
crimsunwell, I sat in an Internet caf, watched the fire and explosions, and wrote some unit tests.  So while a meeting might be boring, unit tests are no better.06:47
Hobbseemanchicken: *grin*06:47
crimsunOn the other hand, you have a child(ren), so that's an entirely different vein.06:47
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manchickenHobbsee: I am *very* strongly against an upstream sync of adept unless there is a real necessity.06:51
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ScottKHobbsee: Looking at kdepim bugs there is only one other than my dependency change with a patch.  It's Bug #116593.  Reading the upstream comment: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126182, I'm a little leary of the patch, but OTOH, kmail IMAP being odd is kind of expected.  I'd be inclined to give it a shot (we're early enough in the cycle to revert it if it causes problems).06:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116593 in kdepim "Kmail filters are broken with IMAP" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11659306:52
ubotuKDE bug 126182 in filtering "online IMAP filters do not always start" [Normal,New] 06:52
ScottKYeah.  The bot is awake at last.06:52
Hobbseemanchicken: that person already filed a sync request of apt, too.06:53
HobbseeScottK: cool, OK, will look06:53
manchickenHobbsee: What's new in this new version.  Do you know?06:53
Hobbseemanchicken: dunno.06:54
Hobbseemanchicken: i just looked at the 27 ubuntu revisions, and went "there's no way in hell that this is a sync"06:54
manchickenOkay.  I mean, if we need to port in a new version, then we need to.  But it's not going to be a straight import.06:55
manchickenWe've got too many changes that won't be going upstream.06:55
manchickenAnd the conflicts would be numerous.06:55
manchickenAh, one thing I see on the mailing list looks like the new apt integrates with apport.06:56
manchickenWhich is a good idea...06:56
manchickenBut that doesn't sound like a change that would have any compatibility impact on adept.06:56
manchickenUnless they're now also adding in apport support for adept.06:57
manchickenI just don't like the "we should update it because we can update it" mentality :)06:57
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manchickenFor that path leads to both death and destruction./06:59
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manchickenI think I may have a patch soon.07:47
Hobbseeyay!07:48
manchickenI'm also going to try to install KDE4 into /usr/local/kde407:51
manchickenHobbsee: Do you know if Riddell applied the patch for bug #119089 about developer changelogs not working with proxies/07:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11908907:57
Hobbseemanchicken: i have no idea.  it'd be fairly easy to check though07:57
Hobbseemanchicken: doesnt appear to be in bzr07:59
Hobbseemanchicken: no he hasnt07:59
manchickenOkie dokie.07:59
Hobbseenixternal: please do08:01
Hobbsee04:33 < nixternal> I need to start working on weekly KDE Trunk Snapshots08:01
nixternaloh08:01
nixternalworking on that now, and watching aKademy talks :)08:02
Hobbseeyay :)08:02
Hobbseenixternal: are you doing them for yourself, or the entire kubuntu?08:02
nixternalso far soprano is done08:02
nixternalentire Kubuntu!08:02
Hobbseeright08:02
Hobbseeexcellent :)08:02
Hobbseeare they coinstallable with kde3?08:02
nixternalprobably going to need a little JR guidance to start out with since the KDE 4 build process once again changed for KDE 4 Alpha 208:03
Hobbseeahh08:03
manchickenPatch uploaded for bug #4862708:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 48627 in adept "Poor resolution of "database locked" problem" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4862708:05
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manchickenqt-copy takes a while to compile.08:08
nixternalmanchicken: you don't need to compile qt-copy :)08:12
_marseillaishi08:15
_marseillaisHobbsee, have you seen bug 124047 ?08:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 124047 in kubuntu-restricted-extras "add libtunepimp5-mp3 dependance to kubuntu-restricted-extras" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12404708:16
Hobbsee_marseillais: i believe it's in my inbox, yes.08:16
Hobbsee_marseillais: wrong source package08:16
_marseillaismmmmmmmmmmm i took it in gutsy source. :(08:17
Hobbsee_marseillais: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-restricted-extras/08:17
Hobbsee_marseillais: it's now https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-extras/08:17
_marseillaisso i in kubuntu we should add ubuntu-restricted-extras ????08:18
Hobbsee_marseillais: do "apt-cache showsrc ubuntu-restricted-extras | grep Binary"08:19
_marseillaisi'm on windows at work currently08:19
Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~$ apt-cache showsrc ubuntu-restricted-extras | grep Binary08:19
HobbseeBinary: ubuntu-restricted-extras, kubuntu-restricted-extras, xubuntu-restricted-extras08:19
HobbseeBinary: ubuntu-restricted-extras, kubuntu-restricted-extras, xubuntu-restricted-extras08:19
Hobbsee_marseillais: launchpad goes by source package name, not binary name08:19
Hobbsee_marseillais: u-r-e actually produces multiple binaries08:20
_marseillaisoki08:20
_marseillaisso i'll do my patch again but with u-r-e08:20
Hobbseeas in, there were separate sources, then i decided it was smarter to do it with one source, and multiple binaries08:20
manchickennixternal: Have you compiled kde4 lately from svn?08:20
nixternalyup08:20
nixternalerr, on Gutsy though...but I think Qt 4.3 is in feisty as well08:21
Hobbsee_marseillais: i can script that fairly easily - you dont need to diff, if you dont want to08:21
manchickennixternal: Did you compile your own Qt4?08:21
nixternalno, I used the Qt 4.3 that is in the repos08:21
manchickenGotcha.08:21
nixternalin feisty it may be the *-kdecopy files08:21
manchickenI'm on gutsy08:21
nixternalthen you are good to go08:24
manchickennixternal: Wanna test my adept patch?08:24
nixternalI am in chroot hell right now :)08:24
serzholinoin feisty is qt 4.2.308:24
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manchickennixternal: That's not a very good excuse :)08:25
_marseillaisHobbsee, doing this diff makes me work on this sort of package too... and it gives you freetime08:25
Hobbsee_marseillais: :)08:26
nixternalit is if you want a kde 4 alpha 2 package :)08:26
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manchickenIt's so nice developing on the real machine rather than in a chroot :)08:30
Hobbseedoes anyone want to go to work for me today?08:31
manchickenHobbsee: I wouldn't mind doing so, but I'm afraid I'd be unable to arrive while it is still the current day there.08:32
Hobbseemanchicken: darn.08:33
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Hobbseeno.  no.  i cant do that.  it woudl be unwise.08:34
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Hobbseepity, though08:35
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manchickenWhat evil thought?08:36
Hobbseemanchicken: i'll query you with it08:38
manchickenok08:38
nixternalwo0t...kdelibs is rolling08:46
nixternalHobbsee: I know you haven't started querying your evil thoughts..that is so unlike you :)08:47
Hobbseehaha08:48
nixternalso is manchicken 2.0 sleeping through the night yet?08:48
nixternalmanchicken: I expect him to be using slackware by the time he is 2 ;)08:49
manchickenWell, manchicken2.0 is sound asleep (I assume) in the womb still.08:49
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nixternaloh ya...wth did I think he was born already08:49
manchickenWe're 12 weeks along :)08:49
manchickenStill a ways to go.08:49
nixternaloh ya, Yossi from the LUG just had the kid ;p08:49
manchickenCool.08:49
nixternalto many people having kids these days08:49
manchickenheh08:50
Tonio_yop guys !!!08:50
nixternalhola Tonio_08:50
manchickenTonio_: Salut.  Ca-va?08:50
Tonio_manchicken: trs bien :)08:50
manchickenBien :)08:50
Hobbseehiya Tonio_!08:51
Tonio_manchicken: et toi ?08:51
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HobbseeTonio_: why hiding from me?08:51
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Tonio_hehe ;)08:51
Tonio_Hobbsee: I'm hiding just because..... well, I'm still slipping I guess08:52
manchickenJe suis fatigue, mais bien :)08:52
Tonio_Hobbsee: you should try the latest dolphin08:52
nixternalholy moly, slackware 12.0 was just released...been a long long time since I really last used that08:52
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Tonio_Hobbsee: it's in the repos, and I added a kds config file for it08:52
manchickennixternal: Did you use strigi in the repos or did you compile it?08:52
nixternalTonio_: speaking of dolphin, in the changelog you added d3lphinrc :)08:52
nixternalmanchicken: compiled it08:52
manchickenOkay.08:53
Tonio_nixternal: that's normal08:53
nixternalk08:53
Tonio_nixternal: in fact d3lphin = dolphin08:53
Tonio_nixternal: but dolphin != d3lphin08:53
Tonio_nixternal: follow me ?08:53
nixternalumm, sure :)08:53
manchickenHow does one change the splash screen artwork for kubuntu?  I never knew how to do that.  It seems like I'm stuck on the ichthux boot screen.08:53
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HobbseeTonio_: neat :)08:53
manchickenI'd love to test out the new one.08:53
nixternalmanchicken: kde-kdm-themes08:54
nixternal!info kde-kdm-themes08:54
ubotukde-kdm-themes: Themes for the K Display Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2007.01-1 (feisty), package size 2359 kB, installed size 2636 kB08:54
nixternalya, make sure I got that right08:54
manchickenI'm not talking KDM, I'm talking boot.08:54
nixternalahh, there is a usplash package somewhere08:54
nixternalall of my usplash hacks have been failures though08:54
manchickenCan one change it via a config file?08:54
Tonio_Hobbsee: I'll try to add the konqueror zoom effect today, and then focus on the ark servicemenus08:55
Hobbseeneat :)08:55
nixternalkde4libs alpha 2 is at 15% :(08:55
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nixternalg'nite08:58
Hobbseenight nixternal08:58
manchickenI should probably sleep, too.  I've got to go house hunting tomorrow.08:59
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_StefanS_morning09:18
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Tonio_Riddell: ping ?10:12
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_StefanS_Tonio_: I'm on that fade thing for kdesudo now.. sorry for the delay10:40
_StefanS_Tonio_: been pretty crazy here.10:40
Tonio__StefanS_: fantastic :) you rock :)10:41
_StefanS_Tonio_: thanks, again I'm sorry for the delay10:41
_StefanS_Tonio_: family life takes much of the time ;)10:41
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Tonio__StefanS_: I can understand this, of course10:43
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_StefanS_Tonio_: not like the old days where you could sit for weeks @ 24/7 to do stuff ;)10:43
Tonio_hehe ;)10:44
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_StefanS_Tonio_: ah this is just sweet stuff.. it seems like kdesudo now uses the WType_Popup (a borderless window) which is required for the background fade11:14
_StefanS_Tonio_: had to hack kdelibs / kdialogbase a bit ;)11:14
Tonio__StefanS_: hehe :)11:16
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xerosisTonio_: does dolphin support plugins?12:40
Tonio_xerosis: no12:43
Tonio_xerosis: that's the main issue we have with it12:43
Tonio_xerosis: no ark support for example12:43
xerosisTonio_: any plans to?12:44
Tonio_xerosis: we're thinking of what todo indeed12:44
xerosisTonio_: i'm doing some work a back-up system and integration with dolphin would be ideal12:45
Tonio_xerosis: sure, I'm planning to work on dolphin in the next days, let's make a point once this ends12:45
Tonio_;)12:45
xerosisTonio_: no rush, was just enquiring so i can plan in my head :)12:46
Tonio_sure ;)12:46
xerosisTonio_: offtopic: do you know paris well?12:46
Tonio_xerosis: I lived in paris for 4 years, so yes :)12:47
xerosisTonio_: excellent, well i'm there in a couple of weeks but I've done all the tourist bits, is there any hidden gems? places to eat, bars etc?12:48
Tonio_the best place to go to in the evening is "quartier bastille"12:49
Tonio_take the metro, line 1, then stop at "bastille" and that's it12:50
Tonio_by far my prefered place to go in in paris :)12:50
Tonio_then I'd say that most of the tourist place are nice too12:50
RiddellTonio_: I'm away today12:51
xerosisTonio_: thanks :)12:51
Tonio_Riddell: oki ;)12:54
Tonio_Riddell: I uploaded the latest dolphin, kds dolphin config, and I'm planning to add the kcm-componentchooser thing toonight12:55
Tonio_Riddell: just fyi :)12:55
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_marseillaisTonio_, i know you can't name d3lphin dolphin but i have to say you it's really very disturbing for people like me wich use krunner (alt+F2)02:22
_marseillaisand another thing in default configuration right and left bar are configure to show bookmark! the right one is not on "info"02:23
Tonio__marseillais: I added a symlink, you can use both02:23
_marseillaisTonio_, in gutsy up2date it doesn't work with krunner02:24
_marseillaisi think krunner use .desktop files did you do one for dolphin ?02:25
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_marseillaisnetwork-manager now depends on libgnome*02:34
_marseillaisTonio_, for dolphin my fault it is Dolphin and not dolphin02:38
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Hobbseehey all02:57
_marseillaishey Hobbsee i've update my patch for ubuntu-restricted-extras02:59
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Hobbseeyay!02:59
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LureTonio_: n-m: do you plan to enable vpn support in knm?04:55
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Tonio_Lure: done05:00
Tonio_;)05:00
Tonio_and it works05:00
LureTonio_: nice, need to try this out in near future...05:02
Tonio_yup :)05:03
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dholbachhiya05:15
dholbachhunger just released a new decibel - who would be up to packaging it?05:15
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hungerHo there...05:17
hungerjust poke me if you run into trouble packaging the stuff;-)05:17
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nixternaldid the new decibel get packaged yet?05:31
hungernixternal: Nope.05:31
nixternal0.4.0 I take it, since it was released today :)05:32
hungernixternal: That's the one.05:32
nixternalrock on..I will take a look here and see what I can whip up...working on KDE4 alpha 2 packages still05:32
hungernixternal: Feel free to hit me if you run into trouble packaging it.05:32
nixternalwill do, thanks!05:33
ScottKHobbsee: If you talk to him he's going to think you like him....05:34
HobbseeScottK: who in particular?05:34
ScottKon ubuntu-bugs05:34
ScottKGot to run.  I'll be back later.05:35
HobbseeScottK: then i'll just have to tell him exactly what i think of him.05:35
=== Hobbsee is unlikable. duh.
=== ScottK doesn't think so. Not unlikeable. Direct.
=== ScottK likes direct.
=== ScottK has a wife that's direct.
Hobbseeheh05:35
HobbseeScottK: put it this way.  i'm not out for a romantic relationship, in the general case.  anyone who *might* be getting close to that, will know otherwise.05:36
ScottKOK.05:36
Hobbsee:_)05:36
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Hobbseeat least, that's my logic05:36
Hobbseeand yes, i'm direct05:37
Hobbseeand no, i'm not always out to be particularly liked by everyone.  as in, if you're annoying me, no, i probably wont be continuing to speak to you05:37
=== ScottK understands (I think).
=== ScottK is out the door to have lunch with crimsun.
ScottKSee you all later.05:38
Hobbsee:)05:38
Hobbseehave fun, say hi to crimsun for me!05:38
nixternalalrighty, test building decibel now, which was a very simple uupdate05:38
=== ScottK will do.
Hobbsee:)05:39
nixternalScottK: kick crimsun in the shin and tell him nixternal said "get the intel audio fixed!"05:39
Hobbseenixternal: he'll just reply "I cant fix the audio on vista, it's closed source, you know"05:39
nixternalman, DC is going to be filled with us Ubuntu people05:39
nixternalHobbsee: har har05:39
nixternalKubuntu and Xorg, aren't all that great if you have tricky configs05:40
nixternalI have a 19" widescreen LCD, and in order to use it, I have to use the FGLRX driver...no problem, however getting everything to work doesn't do it through System Settings for some reason, so I have to go out and dpkg-reconfigure05:41
nixternalactually, that shouldn't be a tricky config, it should just work05:41
nixternal19" widescreens are becoming more common it seems05:42
sahin_wnixternal: Thanks for the updated kvirc! You rule.05:42
nixternalwhy thank you :)05:42
sahin_wnixternal: Because that was the fastest fix what I've seen till I open a bug on launchap.05:43
sahin_wlaunchpad05:44
nixternalwoohoo, I did something fast for once! When it is KDE related and there is a security issue, I tend to hop right on it. I did the same for KTorrent, and of course Kees was a huge help like always05:44
nixternalalthough the KVIrc fix was fast, about 1 day total I think05:45
sahin_wKvirc my favorite irc client, however I use ktorrent frequently too.05:45
nixternalKVIrc is like irssi on steroids05:45
sahin_wYep, I was an irssi user in the past.05:46
sahin_w+ kvirc is qt based.05:46
nixternalya, I am an irssi user now..I found it easier for my daily tasks05:46
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sahin_wI prefer kvirc because so easy to configure to pass trough on my corporate firewall.05:48
sahin_wI have to use socks proxy.05:48
sahin_wKonversation don't have a built in socks proxy handling.05:48
sahin_wSo sad.05:48
nixternalya it is...konversation had a couple of annoyances that made me go back to irssi05:50
nixternalI know some have since been worked out, but like you said, proxy handling and the autowho floods was another issue05:50
nixternallovely, tapioca needs to be updated first before decibel can be05:51
Hobbseeyay, nixternal :)06:27
nixternalyay what?06:27
Hobbseenixternal: all this kdepim bug action06:27
nixternalahhh, well if action is what you want, then action is what you get :)06:28
Hobbsee:)06:28
Hobbseesounds good to me!06:28
=== Hobbsee likes bug-type action
=== Hobbsee likes bug-fixing-type action too
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manchickenWuddup allee?07:38
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manchickenHaven't heard from you in a while.  What's shakin'?07:38
manchickenkdelibs is so much fun to compile.  All the pretty letters scrolling across the screen forever...07:42
Tm_Tmanchicken: in pretty colours07:42
manchickenOh, most definitely.07:43
manchickenIt's a very pretty green.07:44
Tm_Tno other colours? what a shame07:44
manchickenI see some red every once in a while.07:45
manchickenMostly white and green.07:45
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ScottKLongPointyStick: Thanks for the kdepim upload.  Now I have to upgrade to Gutsy I guess.08:11
ScottKLongPointyStick: Daniel says Hi back.08:11
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nixternalshould I create a KDE 4 debian/ personal branch on LP maybe?08:34
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manchickennixternal: That could take a while to maintain :)09:30
manchickenmhb: Just in case you hadn't seen, I put a patch up for the dpkg lock fixer.09:33
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manchickenWe don't use /usr/local very well.09:36
manchickenI would think that instead of /usr/lib/kde4 that we would just stick kde4 stuff into /usr/local/kde4 or something like that.09:36
manchickenI suppose it doesn't really matter, but I really do think that /usr/local/kde4 would make more sense.09:37
ScottKIf it's packaged, then usr/local is pretty well off limits.09:37
manchickenI suppose.09:37
nixternalmanchicken: tomorrow, or maybe tonight. I will have all of the KDE 4 Alpha 2 packages complete09:38
manchickennixternal: Sweet.09:38
manchickennixternal: I'm compiling right now for my own play, from SVN.09:38
nixternalI have them building on every machine available to me right now :)09:38
manchickenNice.09:39
manchickenIf I had the ability to do so without insight getting pissed, I'd open a hole for you to work on my machine.09:40
manchickenBut my ISP sucks like that.09:40
nixternalI will explode if kde4libs don't build out because of a simple mistake somewhere09:40
nixternalfor over an hour they have been building09:40
manchickenI just successfully built kdelibs from svn.09:40
nixternalthe build itself is flawless, now lets see how it handles the .install files09:41
manchickenI'm building kdepimlibs now.09:41
manchickennixternal: You're building me some amd64 packages, right?09:41
manchickenI'll be very sad if you're not.09:41
manchickenIt'll make me cry.09:41
nixternalmanchicken: they will all get built..doing i386 right now09:43
manchickenSo sad.09:46
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nixternalwoohoo!!!09:47
nixternalthe rest should be downhill now!09:48
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vprints#Bug 12378410:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123784 in kopete "Notice of a new message arrived displays also on the same desktop where the chat window is even though the option to avoid it is turned on" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12378410:07
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manchickenIs there any difference between the openoffice.org and openoffice.org2 packages?10:11
ScottKnixternal: That's not, "It's all downhill" the way it's all downhill after you jump out a plane without your parachute, is it?10:13
nixternalcould be :)10:13
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ryanakcaummmm.... has anybody's wallet disappeared recently, aka, within the past day?11:31
ryanakcaKWalletManager shows no wallets... and kopete and KMail spit out 'QFile::open: No file name specified11:31
ryanakca' type things11:31
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Lureryanakca: not here (up to date gutsy)11:41
ryanakcaLure: hmm... oh well, must just be a once in a lifetime thing....11:43
=== ryanakca restores backups :)
xerosisryanakca: what back-up system do you use?11:57
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