[12:16] <ryaren> I have soo many questions hehe.. I have 2 big problems :)
[12:17] <cristian> how to configure mouse logitech mx 510 buttons?
[12:17] <NickPresta> cristian, is your native language English?
[12:18] <cristian> no spanish
[12:18] <NickPresta> !es | cristian
[12:18] <ubotu> cristian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:18] <NickPresta> you may find that better
[12:19] <cristian> but in those channel nobody answer my question
[12:19] <NickPresta> oh
[12:19] <NickPresta> well, as for your compiz fusion theme problem, I cannot help with you that. I use Beryl and the Emerald theme manager is self-explanatory. As for your mouse,
[12:20] <ryaren> where can i check the boot log file?
[12:21] <NickPresta> cristian, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto it may provide you with some reliable information
[12:21] <FreshPrince> !de
[12:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:21] <ryaren> !nvidia
[12:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:21] <NickPresta> as for your boot files, check /var/log/ /var/log/dmesg may have information
[12:25] <ryaren> so there is another big quest for me
[12:25] <ryaren> the boot progress is take about 2-3 minutes for me because of some kind of winchester problem
[12:26] <NickPresta> what kind of problem? specifics are helpful
[12:26] <ryaren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28566/plain/
[12:27] <ryaren> okay i just pasted it
[12:27] <knoppix> hey everyone.. i am having problems with wireless config in kubuntu.. is there anyone who can help me with it
[12:28] <NickPresta> ryaren, okay. I do not know how to address that problem. I would save the link and repost it in a a few minutes/hours.
[12:28] <NickPresta> !ask | knoppix
[12:28] <ubotu> knoppix: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:28] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[12:28] <ryaren> okay
[12:28] <K-Ryan> Is it possible to use fluxbox with Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[12:29] <phobiac> I just installed Feisty on a Dell Inspiron 1100 and the ethernet port doesn't work. Any ideas on what I can do?
[12:29] <knoppix> i bought a new hp slimline pc. and it comes with inbuilt 802.11 b/g capability.. iwconfig shows two wireless interfaces.
[12:29] <ryaren> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[12:29] <NickPresta> K-Ryan, it is most definitely possible to use fluxbox with *buntu
[12:29] <knoppix> but knetwork-manager is not able to connect to a network
[12:30] <K-Ryan> Possible, I wonder if ubotu has a guide or something.
[12:30] <K-Ryan> !fluxbox
[12:30] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:30] <K-Ryan> =)
[12:30] <NickPresta> heh. ubotu saves the day
[12:30] <knoppix> i have tried adding stuff to the /etc/network/interfaces with the information of the wireless essid
[12:30] <knoppix> and other thing.. mode.. but it doesnt seem to work
[12:30] <K-Ryan> Thanks though NickPresta ;)
[12:32] <knoppix> ubotu.. or NickPresta.. any suggestions.. on what else i can try
[12:34] <K-Ryan> knoppix: ubotu is the information bot
[12:34] <K-Ryan> !ubotu
[12:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:34] <K-Ryan> Not a real person ;)
[12:34] <Graham> !botsnack
[12:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:35] <knoppix> oh sorry. so can anyone tell me what else i can try
[12:35] <K-Ryan> I was just making sure you realized that =P
[12:36] <NickPresta> knoppix, personally, I don't know what else you can do, you may want to try asking again when the channel it is more active.
[12:36] <NickPresta> Today is the 4th of July so I can imagine that a portion of this channel is busy today
[12:36] <K-Ryan> Indeed
[12:36] <knoppix> hmm..k.. thanks again. i am able to use the interface to scan using iwlist.. so i am guessing i should be half way there.. was just wonderin if anyone had other ideas
[12:42] <ryaren> !nvidia
[12:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:43] <Minataku> 2
[12:43] <mal> hi
[12:44] <mal> X doesn't center the screen correctly....
[12:44] <mal> what can I do
[12:46] <K-Ryan> Adjust it on your monitor mal
[12:47] <Frederick> folks I get the following error when trying to run an application http://rafb.net/p/XMkrcv30.html any ideas?
[12:54] <ryaren> re
[12:54] <SteffeN> Hello everybody!
[12:54] <NickPresta> hello
[12:55] <FreshPrince> i neeeed heeeeeeeeelp :(
[12:55] <NickPresta> !ask | FreshPrince
[12:55] <ubotu> FreshPrince: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:55] <FreshPrince> NickPresta, the same problem :(
[12:55] <NickPresta> oh. refresh my memory ;)
[12:56] <FreshPrince> ^^
[12:56] <FreshPrince> damn icon problems .. :(
[12:56] <FreshPrince> i don't understand why it won't work..
[12:56] <NickPresta> can you change icons on your desktop or is it only in the application bar?
[12:57] <FreshPrince> i cant change them on the desktop..
[12:57] <FreshPrince> damn :(
[12:58] <FreshPrince> hmm..
[12:58] <SteffeN> I am trying to install the 3D Nvidia driver (nvidia-glx). I installed the package with Apt Manager... BUT after I put "nvidia" in the Driver variable of xorg.conf I get only a blinking cursor after rebooting the PC. Any hints?
[12:59] <NickPresta> !nvidia | SteffeN
[12:59] <ubotu> SteffeN: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <SteffeN> thanks
[01:02] <vzduch> SteffeN: no need to reboot.. restarting the X server is done enough :)
[01:02] <charles> !resolution
[01:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <vishaal> hellO?
[01:03] <SteffeN> also to load the driver? thanks for that info. I got a Geforece Go 7400. checking which driver i need...
[01:05] <dcosson> does anyone know anything about arts?  i can't get any audio to output out of noatun or kaboodle... i think it's because arts is somehow not configured correctly
[01:11] <ryaren> hehe
[01:11] <ryaren> the nvtvout is working but still not perfect
[01:12] <ryaren> anybody is here?
[01:15] <blizzzek> somehow, after a new installation, there is neither .bashrc nor .bash-profile in my home folder... can i generate a new one?
[01:17] <stone_> can anyone tell me how I can find out what Kind of video driver I have and if I have the latest updates?
[01:17] <stone_> sorry, what kind of video card and latest drivers for it
[01:19] <blizzzek> stone_: lspci should give you short information about devices on pci
[01:19] <blizzzek> stone_: sudo lshw for further information
[01:19] <K-Ryan> !fluxbox
[01:19] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[01:20] <stone_> k-ryan, I think I talked to you the other day about beryl
[01:20] <stone_> can you help me set it up properly?
[01:20] <K-Ryan> stone_: Might of, set it up as in what?
[01:20] <Sanne> blizzzek: isn't the default shell on feisty dash? i'm on dapper with bash and ~/.bashrc.
[01:20] <stone_> kubuntu
[01:21] <stone_> feisty
[01:21] <K-Ryan> Yes... But what do you mean, install the entire thing?
[01:21] <stone_> yes
[01:21] <stone_> I had problems last time and then my computer froze
[01:21] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[01:21] <stone_> had to reinstall kubuntu
[01:21] <stone_> what about my video card drivers?
[01:21] <stone_> do I need to update?
[01:21] <K-Ryan> Have you installed them?
[01:22] <K-Ryan> Well, "set them up"
[01:22] <stone_> I'm not sure if I need glx, glx-new, or legacy
[01:22] <K-Ryan> Know the name of your card?
[01:22] <stone_> I'm pretty sure it is nvidia MX 4000
[01:22] <K-Ryan> glx
[01:22] <blizzzek> Sanne: it seems this way... how can i switch to bash? i coped /etc/skel/* to my home folder now
[01:23] <stone_> so...sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:23] <stone_> is that right?
[01:23] <K-Ryan> i believe that's the package name
[01:23] <stone_> thanks
[01:23] <stone_> brb
[01:23] <K-Ryan> ;)
[01:24] <ryaren> Where can I check that what winchester was identifed by the system to mount it!??
[01:24] <Sanne> blizzzek: I don't know the proper way, but I guess you could change the symlink for /bin/sh back to bash. But I would be more comfortable if somebody could confirm this to be a Good Way (tm). :)
[01:25] <blizzzek> Sanne:
[01:25] <Sanne> blizzzek: as, I guess there's a reason the good devs switched to dash
[01:25] <blizzzek> i found a forumpost with the same idea
[01:25] <Sanne> aha
[01:25] <blizzzek> Sanne: well.. i am comfortable with bash ;)
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Does anyone use KBFX?
[01:26] <stone_> k, installed glx through adept
[01:26] <K-Ryan> !kbfx
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <stone_> now find beryl in adept?
[01:26] <K-Ryan> What's KBFX?
[01:26] <Sanne> blizzzek: I read some conversation on launchapd about the switch to dash, I guess it's supposed to be more posix compliant, and also faster. But it's just what I heard, I don't know for sure.
[01:26] <K-Ryan> stone_: sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> KBFX is a very skinable K menu replacement that acts like the double barrel menu in  windows
[01:27] <Sanne> blizzzek: in any case, you could try out to switch back to bash, and see how it goes, no? :)
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Ah, well as you can tell I don't use it =)
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> check it out, its pretty sharp
[01:28] <blizzzek> Sanne: i will ;) there other things i got to do than learning how dash works :D
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> plus you can choose your own menu button too
[01:28] <stone_> do I need to restart my x window?
[01:28] <Sanne> blizzzek: heh :) good luck then :)
[01:28] <K-Ryan> stone_ Yep
[01:28] <stone_> k
[01:28] <stone_> brb
[01:28] <blizzzek> Sanne: thx
[01:28] <K-Ryan> ActionParsnip: I'm setting up Fluxbox right now
[01:28] <K-Ryan> I burned a copy of Damn Small Linux for my old computer, and just fell in love with it
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> K-Ryan: not had chancee to play with it yet
[01:29] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, it's nice, huh?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> K-Ryan: is it debian based?
[01:29] <K-Ryan> I meant I fell in love with fluxbox ;)
[01:29] <underdog5004> ActionParsnip, based on knoppix and debian, I believe
[01:29] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, lol
[01:30] <K-Ryan> But yes, DSL is awesome too
[01:30] <K-Ryan> And it's based on both
[01:30] <stone_> not working so far
[01:30] <K-Ryan> Took me forever to notice that I could enable apt...
[01:30] <srbaker> heya folks
[01:30] <K-Ryan> stone_ open up your terminal and punch in "beryl"
[01:30] <K-Ryan> Hi there srbaker
[01:30] <srbaker> how do i remap capslock ot be control?
[01:30] <K-Ryan> Try your luck in System Settings > Keyboard yet?
[01:31] <K-Ryan> That's just guess work, but it's a start.
[01:31] <srbaker> K-Ryan: yeah; it has a list of keymaps but no option to change them that i could figure out
[01:31] <K-Ryan> Hold on I'll take a look
[01:31] <stone_> now I can't see my panel or anything
[01:32] <srbaker> thx
[01:32] <klobster> whay is there a folder "X11" in /usr/bin that links back to /usr/bin?
[01:32] <srbaker> i'm having a hard time deciding between kde and gnome what i want out of a desktop
[01:32] <K-Ryan> stone_ Anything at all?
[01:32] <srbaker> but i think kde is certainly further along than gnome in most places
[01:32] <K-Ryan> stone_: Can you see the beryl icon in the icon tray? Right click it and go to window manager, change it to kwin
[01:32] <stone_> screen flashed a few times...then I lost my panel and my decorations at the top of the open windows
[01:32] <K-Ryan> I had that at first too
[01:32] <stone_> icon tray completely gone
[01:33] <K-Ryan> Oh that too
[01:33] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[01:33] <stone_> restart x window again?
[01:33] <K-Ryan> Yeah, don't run beryl next time
[01:33] <stone_> k
[01:33] <srbaker> stone_: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:33] <K-Ryan> I forgot what you do to fix that...
[01:33] <K-Ryan> srbaker: Yeah I don't see anything for it either
[01:33] <stone_> add some kind of repository somewhere
[01:33] <sko> What is the support filesystem of Kubuntu?
[01:33] <K-Ryan> I'll keep looking I'm just going to restart X in Fluxbox
[01:33] <srbaker> K-Ryan: i know the xmodmap way to do it, but i wan to use the gui if i can
[01:34] <K-Ryan> Yeah sorry, I don't even know how to do it that way =P
[01:34] <Sanne> klobster: I guess the link is for apps that expect binaries in /use/bin/X11 which are in actuality in /usr/bin on ubuntu.
[01:34] <stone_> k, i'm back
[01:34] <sko> is ext4 available in Kubuntu 7.04 and is ext4 better then ext3
[01:35] <vzduch> stone_: still freezing issues?
[01:35] <stone_> restarted just fine
[01:35] <gumjo> hello, how to change kmenu button
[01:35] <stone_> didn't start beryl
[01:35] <klobster> sanne: wow, I must dumb today.  that is totally obvious.
[01:35] <K-Ryan> Alright
[01:36] <Sanne> klobster: heh, yes, I also know days like that :)
[01:36] <K-Ryan> Now to find my system settings in Fluxbox..
[01:36] <sko> Which is better ext3 or ext4
[01:36] <vzduch> Sanne: why are you not on the German channels? :)
[01:36] <klobster> and now to celebrate my independence (and let's not forget puerto ricos Dependence)
[01:36] <Sanne> vzduch: sometimes I am...
[01:37] <K-Ryan> !fluxbox
[01:37] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[01:37] <s_v_e_n> please help with alsa -- how to set the default device for everithing including kmix and esapecially x-lite
[01:38] <s_v_e_n> asoundconf  set-default-card Headset     dont change kmix and the in- and output from x-lite
[01:38] <Sanne> vzduch: #kubuntu-de tends to be a little too offtopic for me, though. At least most times when I visit.
[01:39] <vzduch> Sanne: I don't see a problem w/ that :)
[01:39] <Sanne> vzduch: I like to seperate general chatter from the help channels... which we should do also, for that matter ;)
[01:40] <K-Ryan> Anyone know where system settings is in fluxbox?
[01:40] <vzduch> well, at least #kubuntu-de-offtopic exists
[01:40] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  the kde system-settings menu/program ya mean?
[01:40] <K-Ryan> Yes
[01:40] <s_v_e_n> x-lite seemed to use oss, but I cant find any oss-tools, anyway it works with my first soundcard
[01:40] <K-Ryan> I need to change my resolution and to be quite honest, I can't find it!
[01:41] <airguitar> hi. i recently installed kubuntu and it detected my sound card fine. i then installed beryl and did some customisations. afterward, my sound doesn't work. amarok, xmms, and mpg123 both try to play sound files and think it's actually playing it, however no sound comes out. i checked if its muted via kmix and alsa-mixer and i set all the volumes to max. it's a laptop and it's not hardware muted. my sound works in win xp and not
[01:41] <airguitar> kubuntu. is there a way to have kubuntu resetup and reinstall the sound drivers? can anyone help?
[01:42] <s_v_e_n> @airgitar: normally it works with kmenu / systemsettings
[01:42] <pyrotix> can someone try to connect to http://70.48.13.214:81 and tell me if it times out?
[01:42] <K-Ryan> airguitar: Does it work when Beryl isn't running?
[01:42] <CHINASKI> NOSTOY
[01:43] <airguitar> hang on
[01:43] <s_v_e_n> @protix: timeout
[01:45] <K-Ryan> Hey is it still Kubuntu if I'm running it with Fluxbox? =)
[01:45] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  almost.
[01:45] <Dr_willis> KDE has its own sound-server however.
[01:46] <BluesKaj> 'evening Gents
[01:46] <Dr_willis> i run the kde kicker, with fluxbox befor.
[01:46] <K-Ryan> 'ello BluesKaj
[01:46] <pyrotix> Guys router question, I open ports on the router and tell it to rerout data incoming on those ports to 192.168.1.XXX . How do I know what values of XXX are my desktop?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> set up a static ip on the desktop box. that way it never changes.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> is what i do.
[01:47] <pyrotix> ???
[01:48] <K-Ryan> Muuuuch better
[01:48] <K-Ryan> =)
[01:48] <Dr_willis> go to the desktop machine and check? :) ipconfig/ifconfig?
[01:48] <carranca_> can i set the win button as a shortcut to the kde start?
[01:49] <pyrotix> Dr_willis ifconfig gives me like 6 different IP addresses starting with 192.168.1.
[01:49] <Dr_willis> carranca_,  someone asked that the other day . I was thinking however the windows key is like ctrl- a meta-key
[01:50] <Dr_willis> pyrotix,  you got a lot of network cards? or got vmware installed?
[01:50] <pyrotix> no vmware
[01:50] <pyrotix> I'll pastebin it
[01:50] <pyrotix> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:51] <BluesKaj> well, i have to say BSD isn't my cup of tea...too difficult to install for the likes of me :(
[01:51] <NickPresta> carranca, you can use xmodmap or whatever you like to bind the Super key (win key) to: "dcop kicker kicker showKMenu". That should work.
[01:51] <pyrotix> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28573/ is what ifconfig returns. What address do I have to tell my router to rerout to?
[01:51] <carranca_> Dr_willis, ive seen that, but somehow the M$ folks managed to do just that :P so it shouldnt be dificult
[01:52] <Sanne> carranca_: it is set up as alt+f1 here, maybe you can reassign it to win key or win key + some other key.
[01:52] <vzduch> didn't try *BSD in a while, but should've gotten a helluva lot easier since 4.x nevertheless :)
[01:53] <carranca_> Sanne, i seen the alt+f1, but i want to change to just win and it dosnt allow me...
[01:53] <BluesKaj> tried the 64bit BSD ...couldn't install  some needed xorg files... kept failing ...finally gave up
[01:53] <carranca_> NickPresta is it anyway to do it inside the Keyboard & Mouse system setting?
[01:53] <Sanne> carranca_: then what Dr_willis and NickPresta said should apply :)
[01:54] <NickPresta> carranca_, I tried to just bind the Win key but it does not work in this GUI. I suggested xmodmap because it might let you get around this restriction
[01:55] <carranca_> NickPresta ok thks :)
[01:55] <SillyZ> Ive been doing some research here on different filesystem, ext2, ext3, reiserfs-v3 and v4, and xfs... any suggestions on whats going to give the best filesystem performance ?
[02:04] <carranca_> im using the knetworkmanager, i hava a wifi with a pass key, so kdewallet is in charge to remember that, ive read somewhere that if you dont specify your wallet pass quick enough you are pretty much screwed :P, is there anyway to solve this-?
[02:04] <dwidmann> SillyZ: I like xfs when it comes to performance
[02:04] <dwidmann> ext2 is faster than ext3, but ext2 doens't have journaling so its more subject to things like corruption
[02:05] <carranca_> at least how can i make that the app ask me again the wallet pass?
[02:05] <dwidmann> (ext3 is basically little more than text2 with journaling)
[02:05] <pyrotix> What address do I need my router to forward to for my computer to receive signals given ifconfig returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28573/ ? Please help.
[02:05] <charles> !resolution
[02:05] <dwidmann> reiserfs can be really cpu intensive, and I never really noticed the performance to back it up, so I generally don't use it
[02:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:06] <pyrotix> how is reiser4 in terms of fs performance?
[02:06] <pyrotix> !reiserFS
[02:06] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[02:06] <pyrotix> !reiser4
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reiser4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <pyrotix> !hans reiser
[02:07] <pyrotix> !hansreiser
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hans reiser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hansreiser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <SillyZ> dwidmann: I was leaning towards xfs from what Im seeing in the benchmarks Im reading
[02:07] <RadiantFire> reiser4 is faster than reiserfs3, but isn't quite stable yet, at least that what the kernel devs say
[02:07] <SillyZ> aye
[02:07] <vzduch> I somehow doubt that you can feel the difference between ext3 and ReiserFS in the real world, at least on a home system
[02:07] <RadiantFire> I'm told xfs works well for lots and lots of tiny files
[02:07] <SillyZ> and considering the situation behind Hans to begin with....
[02:07] <dwidmann> SillyZ: yeah, but I wouldn't use xfs on an old machine, if the machine is old, ext3 with a few perforamnce tweaks would work better
[02:08] <RadiantFire> but then again, fs performance really isn't that big a deal unless you have absolutely huge disks
[02:08] <RadiantFire> or need to do some kind of high throughput server
[02:08] <SillyZ> Dell E1705, Core Duo 1.85ghz .... no lack of hardware here
[02:08] <pyrotix> !xfs
[02:08] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[02:08] <pyrotix> !zfs
[02:08] <ubotu> For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[02:08] <dwidmann> RadiantFire: it does make a bit of difference though, every little thing counts.
[02:09] <dwidmann> sillyz: just be sure to NOT put /boot on an xfs partition, give it its own ext2 or ext3 partition
[02:09] <SillyZ> grub problems with xfs and grub?
[02:09] <RadiantFire> yes
[02:10] <SillyZ> its an mbr installation
[02:10] <RadiantFire> grub doesn't like anything that isn't ext derived
[02:10] <RadiantFire> i've had trouble using it with reiserfs3 even
[02:10] <SillyZ> no problems here with reiserfs / grub on kubuntu 7.04
[02:10] <RadiantFire> the gentoo installation docs used to have a big warning to use only ext2 for /boot
[02:10] <carranca_> im using the knetworkmanager, i hava a wifi with a pass key, so kdewallet is in charge to remember that, ive read somewhere that if you dont specify your wallet pass quick enough you are pretty much screwed :P, is there anyway to solve this-?
[02:10] <Perseu_35> Ai galera, alguem sabe como instalar o aMSN
[02:11] <K-Ryan> !es | Perseu_35
[02:11] <ubotu> Perseu_35: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:11] <RadiantFire> carranca_ what do you mean? as soon as the pass is retrieved from the wallet, you will connect
[02:11] <dwidmann> RadiantFire: if that were that serious a thing then Debian wouldn't have dropped support for ext2 altogether during its install process
[02:11] <pyrotix> What address do I need my router to forward to for my computer to receive signals given ifconfig returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28573/ ? Please help.
[02:12] <carranca_> but for some reason the wallet isnt opening at startup
[02:12] <K-Ryan> !pt | Perseu_35
[02:12] <ubotu> Perseu_35: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:12] <RadiantFire> ext2 capable sy stems can still read ext3
[02:12] <dwidmann> true
[02:12] <RadiantFire> carranca_: knetworkmanager has to make a request of the wallet
[02:12] <carranca_> RadianFire, well it dosnt seem to be doing that :P
[02:12] <dwidmann> !tab
[02:12] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:12] <RadiantFire> carranca_: have you opened the wallet manually and looked through it for your passkey?
[02:13] <pyrotix> is there anything uboto doesn't know?
[02:13] <pyrotix> !sex
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <marko__> is there a command in shell where it list's the system info?
[02:13] <carranca_> ive tried opening manually, but dont quite know the command, kdewallet kwallet and wallet dosnt work
[02:13] <K-Ryan> !abuse
[02:13] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:13] <K-Ryan> !botabuse
[02:13] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:13] <RadiantFire> carranca_: the easiest way is to do something that triggers it to open
[02:14] <RadiantFire> carranca_: like loging in with kopete or kmail
[02:14] <marko__> does anyone know?
[02:14] <dwidmann> and actually ubotu only knows what information it has been given, which means when you really need him to know something it doesn't.
[02:14] <carranca_> RadianFire kopete opened but the wallet didnt
[02:14] <RadiantFire> marko__: uname -a
[02:14] <dwidmann> sed -e s/him/it/
[02:14] <marko__> not that
[02:14] <marko__> i mean like in
[02:14] <marko__> windows
[02:14] <marko__> systeminfo
[02:14] <carranca_> RadianFire, the funny thing is the wallet is opened after i insert the key :P
[02:15] <RadiantFire> hrm
[02:15] <RadiantFire> carranca_: try launching kwalletmanager
[02:15] <Ramon> hello.. I have an "ATX form card" installed on my linux box.. that card has 2 usb, 1 ps2 and 1 infrared.. debian recognizes the ps2 and the infrared but the usb's are not working.. what can I do?
[02:15] <dwidmann> marko, which system info? There are many commands each used to show a different thing
[02:15] <K-Ryan> !xmms
[02:15] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:15] <marko__> dwidmann, eh forget it:D
[02:16] <marko__> it's not a big deal
[02:16] <RadiantFire> marko__: if you are interested, you can use kinfocenter to get a ton of information
[02:16] <RadiantFire> its in system->
[02:16] <RadiantFire> er, k->system
[02:16] <carranca_> RadianFire, ive open the wallet and my key is in there
[02:16] <marko__> RadiantFire, thank yoiu
[02:16] <RadiantFire> carranca_: well, thats wierd, I'm stumped
[02:16] <dwidmann> kde-hal-device-manager is also very useful for getting that information
[02:16] <carranca_> RadiantFire, still i open the network manager and ask me for a key
[02:17] <RadiantFire> and it doesn't ask you to unlock your wallet?
[02:17] <RadiantFire> the only thing I can think of is that a config file got confused somewhere, but I can't imagine what
[02:17] <marko__> RadiantFire, again thanks that was what i was searching
[02:17] <marko__> :D
[02:18] <Ramon> hello.. I have an "ATX form card" installed on my linux box.. that card has 2 usb, 1 ps2 and 1 infrared.. debian recognizes the ps2 and the infrared but the usb's are not working.. what can I do?
[02:18] <carranca_> RadiantFire, with the wallet manager when i open the wallet it ask me for my pass, but it seems as if the network manager dosnt ask the wallet
[02:18] <RadiantFire> its supposed to. It always has on my system
[02:18] <RadiantFire> thats mildly annoying
[02:18] <Ramon> hello.. I have an "ATX form card" installed on my linux box.. that card has 2 usb, 1 ps2 and 1 infrared.. debian recognizes the ps2 and the infrared but the usb's are not working.. what can I do?
[02:19] <dwidmann> RadiantFire: you can set the password to blank, in which case, it will open the wallet automatically without a popup
[02:20] <K-Ryan> How can I set it so XMMS is used by default rather than amaroK?
[02:21] <zaba> is anyone from poland here?
[02:21] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: You need to edit the file associations for music files.
[02:21] <ardchoille> !default | K-Ryan
[02:21] <ubotu> K-Ryan: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:21] <dwidmann> k-ryan, right click on a file you want to play, go to properties, and change the application preference
[02:22] <K-Ryan> Sounds good, thanks a bunch
[02:25] <SillyZ> dwidmann: thanks for the info on xfs, fortunatly I have my reiserfs system backed up, and can restore it on a whim
[02:25] <SillyZ> dwidmann: are you running any sata drives by chance?
[02:27] <zaba> hi
[02:27] <zaba> can i ask one, littlen quwstion? it can seem stupid, but i'm really newbie;)
[02:27] <bryan_> how do i get my xternal usb harddrive to mount?
[02:27] <dwidmann> SillyZ: yeah, all of my drives are sata
[02:28] <K-Ryan> Alright, new question
[02:28] <K-Ryan> How can I set Firefox to open a .pls file with XMMS
[02:28] <K-Ryan> XMMS isn't listed in the box and I can't seem to find it
[02:29] <K-Ryan> s/it/XMMS
[02:29] <SillyZ> can you do a hdparm -tT /dev/sda for me, and gimmie the results? also which filesystem your running?
[02:30] <zaba> I've just installed kubuntu 6.10. it's my first linux, i've read little about linux before... my question is: why do some applications are inaccessable in packet manager?
[02:30] <SillyZ> plain old eide/udma drives I was getting around 30-35MB/sec, and with this sata drive Im only seeing about 45MB/sec
[02:30] <zaba> i wanted to install wine that way, but i can't
[02:31] <SillyZ> apt-get install wine
[02:31] <K-Ryan> sudo of course
[02:31] <SillyZ> or to be more correct sudo or kdesu apt-get install wine
[02:31] <RadiantFire> !repositories
[02:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:31] <K-Ryan> kdesu is for gui apps
[02:31] <K-Ryan> so sudo
[02:31] <Solifugus> What program should I use and how do you setup an ICQ account?
[02:31] <SillyZ> ah Your right K-Ryan
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Took me a while to figure that out too ;)
[02:32] <RadiantFire> Solifugus: kopete
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Solifugus: I use Kopete and it serves me well
[02:32] <K-Ryan> AIM/ICQ/MSN
[02:32] <RadiantFire> Solifugus: settings -> configure -> accounts
[02:32] <RadiantFire> and follow the prompts
[02:32] <Solifugus> RadiantFire: So I can createa new account from there?
[02:32] <Solifugus> I've never had one before... never had a reason..
[02:32] <K-Ryan> It will take you to the website if I'm not mistaken
[02:32] <Solifugus> ok
[02:33] <Solifugus> cool.. thanks..
[02:33] <K-Ryan> And from there you can register
[02:33] <K-Ryan> No problem
[02:33] <szkodnik> thank tou very much :) i'm going to read now
[02:33] <SillyZ> should i recompile the kernel on a core duo (not a core duo 2) machine, is there going to be any significant speed improvement between the standard i386 and using a Core Duo processor in the kernel ?
[02:34] <K-Ryan> Pssst
[02:34] <SillyZ> ie: will it take advantage of mmx/sse/sse2/sse3 ?
[02:36] <K-Ryan> How do I have Firefox open a .pls in XMMS? XMMS isn't listed in the drop down box for "Open with" and I won't be looking for an executable obviously...
[02:40] <Neil-> K-Ryan: I guess you could just save the .plz
[02:40] <Neil-> pls
[02:40] <Neil-> and open it manually..
[02:40] <Neil-> Bit of a crap way I agree..
[02:40] <K-Ryan> Yeah I don't really want to do that
[02:44] <K-Ryan> Hmm...
[02:45] <HayaBusa> need help with ICQ / Kopete.. can anyone help me out?
[02:45] <K-Ryan> Ask away
[02:46] <HayaBusa> I just connected to ICQ, is my first time, I am trying to add people to my ICQ from thier web site
[02:46] <K-Ryan> From the ICQ website?
[02:46] <HayaBusa> but eveytime i do that , a CMD.PHP wants to get downloaded. how do i add people to my kopete
[02:46] <K-Ryan> I've never tried that I just add them right in Kopete
[02:46] <K-Ryan> Right click the group you want to put them in
[02:46] <HayaBusa> how do you add them
[02:47] <K-Ryan> Then go to add contact
[02:47] <K-Ryan> Pick the account, then punch in the number
[02:47] <HayaBusa> i see. thanks.
[02:47] <K-Ryan> No problem
[02:48] <K-Ryan> !shortcut
[02:48] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:48] <K-Ryan> Gah
[02:48] <K-Ryan> Can someone help me make a shortcut for XMMS?
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Anyone?
[02:57] <SillyZ> right click on your kde desktop, link to application ...
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I know about link to application
[02:57] <ubuntu_> #maceio
[02:57] <SillyZ> I dont use xmms, but I belive its in /usr/bin
[02:57] <K-Ryan> But that's the part that I don't know how to do =)
[02:58] <SillyZ> 2 sec ill install it
[02:59] <SillyZ> right click, create new, link to application, Give it the name XMMS...  click on the application tab and in the command field type in /usr/bin/xmms  then click ok
[02:59] <SillyZ> done
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Thanks, I needed the path
[03:00] <K-Ryan> I got to completely skip the shortcut actually.
[03:01] <SillyZ> i thought it was in /usr/bin/ to begin with, then again once installed it should show up in the multimedia tab of the kde menu
[03:02] <ubuntu_> Algum do Brasil aqui??
[03:02] <SillyZ> heres one for ya, I found Acronis trueimage workstation for WinBlows, will backup and restore a reiserfs partition
[03:03] <SillyZ> no Brasil - english (and i have a hard time with that to begin with)
[03:03] <K-Ryan> !pt
[03:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:03] <SillyZ> thanks K
[03:03] <K-Ryan> ;)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> thank you
[03:05] <SillyZ> !kernel
[03:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:11] <sdlvx> hey guys I have a problem and I think it's kind of dumb and I can't really find anything on the forums
[03:12] <SillyZ> fire away, ill see if i can help
[03:12] <sdlvx> i can't find the control center
[03:12] <sdlvx> there's just System Settings
[03:12] <SillyZ> Kbutton, run command, kcontrol
[03:12] <sdlvx> and I'm looking for the Look & Feel -> behavior thing
[03:13] <SillyZ> probably the launch feedback to get rid of the damned bouncing cursor ?
[03:13] <griffjon> any compiz-whizzes in here?
[03:13] <SillyZ> mmm not me
[03:13] <pyrotix> What address do I need my router to forward to if ifconfig returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28573/ ?
[03:13] <sdlvx> finally
[03:13] <sdlvx> i got it
[03:13] <sdlvx> kcontrol worked
[03:14] <SteffeN> Hello everybody!
[03:14] <SteffeN> Got the following problem and can't find a solution. If I start the beryl-manager i got the output (see below). Might the problem be the color depth of 32 ? How can I reduce it to 24. (if i put 24 in the xorg.conf my X won't start anymore)
[03:14] <SteffeN> root@r55:~# beryl-manager
[03:14] <SteffeN> root@r55:~# X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:14] <SteffeN>   Major opcode:  147
[03:14] <sdlvx> i love ubuntu
[03:14] <SteffeN>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:14] <SteffeN>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:14] <SteffeN> Failed to open device
[03:14] <SillyZ> pyrotix set the default gateway to the ip address of your router
[03:17] <sdlvx> score its all set up
[03:17] <sdlvx> thanks guys/girls
[03:19] <pyrotix> SillyZ: what? I'm trying to open and redirect stuff from my router to my desktop, what does my router IP adress have to do with it?
[03:20] <pyrotix> other than of course people sending data to it in the first place
[03:22] <K-Ryan> hey everybody, ever used xcruiser?
[03:25] <we6jbo> Hi
[03:25] <we6jbo> Hi
[03:25] <K-Ryan> Hi there!
[03:25] <we6jbo> I have a question
[03:25] <K-Ryan> Shoot
[03:25] <we6jbo> I have a problem
[03:26] <aznpridechinese> hi got a question, what does amaroK do?
[03:26] <we6jbo> My network cable in my other room broke
[03:26] <K-Ryan> !amaroK
[03:26] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[03:27] <K-Ryan> So we6jbo, besides the broken cable what's the problem?
[03:28] <paknefia> !nessus
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nessus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <paknefia> !kexi
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <K-Ryan> !info nessus
[03:29] <K-Ryan> !info kxi
[03:29] <K-Ryan> !info kexi
[03:29] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (feisty), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[03:29] <ubotu> Package kxi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:29] <ubotu> kexi: integrated database environment for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3387 kB, installed size 10504 kB
[03:29] <K-Ryan> ;)
[03:30] <paknefia> thanks
[03:30] <K-Ryan> You're welcome =)
[03:32] <K-Ryan> !jwm
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[03:35] <root_> hey is anyone there?
[03:36] <phil_boi> Hey is anyone out there? :-(
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Yeah, we're here
[03:37] <jhutchins> Nah, we're all out blowing things up.
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Multitasking, and chatting in 3 different channels
[03:38] <K-Ryan> I am anyway
[03:41] <defcon> Any good ways to optimize ram/cache consumption and free ram/cache in Ubuntu? or resources online to look into this?
[03:42] <justin__> ubuntu won't play mp3's?
[03:42] <we6jbo_> I can't get my wireless card to work
[03:43] <wolferine> justin__, check the 'ubuntu guide'
[03:43] <wolferine> has something on installing the codecs
[03:43] <justin__> !mp3
[03:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:43] <K-Ryan> !fluxbox | defcon
[03:43] <ubotu> defcon: fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[03:43] <K-Ryan> !wireless | we6jbo_
[03:43] <ubotu> we6jbo_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:44] <K-Ryan> defcon: Fluxbox uses less resources and I think it's awesome
[03:44] <defcon> K-Ryan, I have experimented with that but I hate the idea of manually adding items to menu's
[03:44] <defcon> lazy, got allot of work 2 do
[03:44] <defcon> etc
[03:45] <K-Ryan> All my stuff was in here from kde
[03:45] <puppetmaster> Hello Everyone
[03:45] <K-Ryan> Hi puppetmaster
[03:45] <puppetmaster>  IS there a way i can shutdown pc after downloading a file with wget?
[03:45] <K-Ryan> defcon: And on DSL entries were added automatically for me
[03:46] <puppetmaster> 
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Hmm, I'm not sure puppetmaster, let's hope I'm not the only active helper in here.
[03:46] <wolferine> lets hope :)
[03:46] <puppetmaster>  thanks for ur reply
[03:46] <puppetmaster> I hope
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Sorry I couldn't help more =/
[03:47] <wolferine> you could pipe the command shutdown maybe
[03:47] <wolferine> but I have never tried that
[03:47] <puppetmaster> Anyone knows?
[03:48] <puppetmaster>  Do you know a program called wxdownload fast?
[03:48] <K-Ryan> Can't say that I do
[03:48] <K-Ryan> !wxdownload
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wxdownload - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <K-Ryan> !info wxdownload
[03:48] <ubotu> Package wxdownload does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:48] <puppetmaster> I installed it
[03:48] <K-Ryan> Hmmph
[03:48] <K-Ryan> What is it?
[03:48] <puppetmaster> and it's agreat program
[03:49] <wolferine> there are alot of those in 'linux-land'
[03:49] <CHINASKI> CUAK
[03:49] <K-Ryan> NOSTOY
[03:49] <puppetmaster>  but it closes after sometime of using
[03:50] <justin__> how can you tell the ubuntu version?
[03:50] <puppetmaster> Do you know any solution to that?
[03:50] <K-Ryan> !version
[03:50] <K-Ryan> No, never heard of that problem..
[03:50] <K-Ryan> What's the program do out of curiosity?
[03:50] <puppetmaster> last question
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Shoot
[03:51] <puppetmaster>  when I tried to istall it manually
[03:51] <puppetmaster>  it gives me this message
[03:52] <puppetmaster> wxWindows must be installed on your system.
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 Please check that wx-config is in path, the directory
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 where wxWindows libraries are installed (returned by
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 'wx-config --libs' or 'wx-config --static --libs' command)
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH or equivalent variable and
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 wxWindows version is 2.6.0 or above.
[03:52] <puppetmaster> wxWindows must be installed on your system.
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 Please check that wx-config is in path, the directory
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 where wxWindows libraries are installed (returned by
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 'wx-config --libs' or 'wx-config --static --libs' command)
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH or equivalent variable and
[03:52] <puppetmaster>                 wxWindows version is 2.6.0 or above.
[03:52] <K-Ryan> Whoa whoa whoa
[03:53] <wolferine> thats just rude
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Don't spam up the channel like that, people get mad
[03:53] <justin__> www.pastebin.ca
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Use pastebin
[03:53] <puppetmaster> Ssorry
[03:53] <puppetmaster> wxWindows must be installed on your system.
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:53] <puppetmaster>                 Please check that wx-config is in path, the directory
[03:53] <puppetmaster>                 where wxWindows libraries are installed (returned by
[03:53] <puppetmaster>                 'wx-config --libs' or 'wx-config --static --libs' command)
[03:53] <puppetmaster>                 is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH or equivalent variable and
[03:53] <puppetmaster>                 wxWindows version is 2.6.0 or above.
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Careful!
[03:53] <wolferine> what an idiot
[03:53] <justin__> anyone know how to tell the version of ubuntu
[03:53] <puppetmaster> my keypord is crazy
[03:53] <K-Ryan> justin__: Ubotu never answered?
[03:53] <K-Ryan> !version
[03:53] <justin__> nope
[03:53] <puppetmaster> I'm very sorry
[03:54] <K-Ryan> Ubotu is broken -.-
[03:54] <justin__> !mp3
[03:54] <wolferine> i doubt its the keyboard
[03:54] <K-Ryan> there's a command that you put in the terminal to find it out
[03:54] <wolferine> and sure its the user
[03:54] <K-Ryan> wolferine: Don't give him a hard time
[03:54] <justin__> not uname?
[03:54] <SteffeN> byebye to everybody....
[03:54] <K-Ryan> No justin__
[03:54] <K-Ryan> I tried that and it told me "Linux" just now lol
[03:55] <justin__> uname -a K-Ryan
[03:55] <justin__> you get more info like that
[03:55] <puppetmaster> anyone
[03:55] <ardchoille> kraut: lsb_release -a  ?
[03:55] <K-Ryan> Nope, that didn't give it justin__
[03:55] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: lsb_release -a  ?
[03:55] <K-Ryan> ardchoille: has it
[03:55] <K-Ryan> * that's it
[03:55] <K-Ryan> I seemed to have slipped on T there...
[03:56] <justin__> yep that helped
[03:56] <ardchoille> That's ok, I didn't even get the correct nick, lol
[03:56] <justin__> thanks ardchoille
[03:56] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:56] <justin__> gosh about went back to running windows
[03:56] <ardchoille> noooo!!!
[03:57] <K-Ryan> a-r-d-c-h-o-i-l-l-e
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Right?
[03:57] <K-Ryan> OH!
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Me
[03:57] <ardchoille> Yes, I was the one who messed up the nick
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Called me a kraut =(
[03:57] <ardchoille> No, kraut is a person in this channel
[03:57] <ardchoille> tab completion bit me :)
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Ah
[03:58] <ardchoille> I don't use konversation
[03:58] <justin__> I disliked konversation
[03:58] <ardchoille> irssi ;)
[03:58] <justin__> I apt-getted x-chat instead
[03:58] <K-Ryan> Oh, well that has it too then..
[03:58] <ardchoille> the only way to fly
[03:58] <K-Ryan> I use Konversation out of habit
[03:59] <K-Ryan> Does irssi play noises when someone says your name?
[03:59] <ardchoille> I like irssi cuz there's days at a time when I don't even have xorg running
[03:59] <ardchoille> I don't know, I am hearingimpaired and don't hear noises.
[03:59] <K-Ryan> Oh
[04:00] <K-Ryan> I just like hearing a nice little "click" when people type in messages or a "ding" when someone says my name
[04:00] <K-Ryan> Otherwise I forget about the chat =)
[04:01] <justin__> I"m gonna install this on my works computer
[04:01] <K-Ryan> Kubuntu?
[04:01] <justin__> ubuntu
[04:02] <justin__> ubuntu\kubuntu
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Mmm
[04:02] <justin__> whatever you wnat to call it
[04:02] <ardchoille> K-Ryan: http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1397/irssiyp4.jpg  irssi is in the main repo if you're interested.
[04:02] <justin__> I just use the net boot cd and apt-get in my desktop
[04:02] <K-Ryan> I have irssi =)
[04:02] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:08] <griffjon> I use kde-window-decorator to change the opacity of windows when I scrollmouse over the title bar, and just upgraded to fiesty from edgy and this is now causing kde-w... to crash rather annoyingly
[04:10] <K-Ryan> Are you sure the package was updated with the upgrade?
[04:10] <K-Ryan> Or that there is an updated package for feisty at all?
[04:11] <K-Ryan> Make sure all the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list read Feisty instead of Edgy
[04:11] <griffjon> K-Ryan: is this advice directed at me>
[04:11] <K-Ryan> All of it =)
[04:12] <K-Ryan> Sorry for the confusion =p
[04:12] <aznpridechinese> can anyone help me setup my sound card? i have a sb x-fi extreme
[04:12] <K-Ryan> !sound
[04:12] <K-Ryan> Oh that's right, ubotu is broken
[04:12] <K-Ryan> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[04:12] <K-Ryan> Check around in there for a start aznpridechinese
[04:12] <K-Ryan> I'm not familiar with sound issues and the channel is rather quiet so while you wait you can start there
[04:13] <aznpridechinese> how do i change opacity in windows decorations? i don't see a buttun for it
[04:13] <aznpridechinese> thanks kryan
[04:13] <griffjon> the only edgy entries are (and have been) commented out
[04:13] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[04:14] <K-Ryan> griffjon: What's the package for that app?
[04:15] <Sloik> Greetings.
[04:16] <ardchoille> ubotu is broken?
[04:16] <ardchoille> That's rare.
[04:16] <wolferine> i think a few ppl said it was
[04:16] <ardchoille> I wasn't paying attention :(
[04:16] <Sloik> !help
[04:16] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[04:16] <K-Ryan> It happens every once in a while
[04:16] <K-Ryan> That's why you see ubotwo
[04:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is broken -.- - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:17] <ardchoille> hahaha
[04:17] <ardchoille> lag--
[04:17] <K-Ryan> Yeah there we go
[04:17] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[04:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:17] <ardchoille> Whomever fixed the bot, thank you :)
[04:17] <K-Ryan> Umm, he's not fixed
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is broken? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:17] <K-Ryan> He just lagged for that long...
[04:17] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:17] <griffjon> gah, compiz is such a little biatch
[04:18] <K-Ryan> Oh there we go, catching up
[04:18] <ardchoille> My connection has been laggy today too
[04:18] <K-Ryan> I've got my normal 115ms
[04:18] <navets> hey does anyone know how you can have a windows taskbar in ubuntu using VMware server?
[04:19] <K-Ryan> Stevan, good one ;)
[04:20] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure about your question though, sorry
[04:20] <el_isma>  I have a proxy with only one open port (8081). I want to redirect all traffic to that port. The traffic is generated locally. Proxy's IP is 172.16.0.2. As most programs don't support proxys, I thought that maybe rerouting the packets with iptables would do the job. These ( http://paste.debian.net/32041 ) are the rules that I came up with, I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me if they'll work, or if there's another option to do this.
[04:21] <pyrotix> other than of course people sending data to it in the first place
[04:21] <pyrotix> gah
[04:21] <pyrotix> mistype
[04:22] <pyrotix> What address do I need my router to forward to to reach my desktop if ifconfig returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28573/ ?
[04:25] <we6jbo> hi
[04:25] <we6jbo> I have a Netgear WG311v3 wireless card
[04:30] <K-Ryan> !wireless
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:31] <pyrotix> Can someone please try visiting http://70.48.13.214:81 (trying to see if I can host a webserver?
[04:31] <ardchoille> If you see this, it means that my webserver is working. yay!
[04:31] <ardchoille> Seems to be working
[04:31] <pyrotix> YAY
[04:32] <pyrotix> AWESOEM
[04:32] <pyrotix> aeoiurgpv}fvAbfv
[04:32] <ardchoille> :)
[04:32] <pyrotix> ABHA
[04:32] <K-Ryan> It works ardchoille
[04:32] <pyrotix> joy
[04:32] <NickPresta> I assume once I installed Windows Vista alongside Kubuntu and WinXP, GRUB will be removed from the root partition?
[04:32] <ardchoille> !grub
[04:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:32] <NickPresta> yes, thank you. I figured as much but it's always nice to hear from ubotu
[04:32] <K-Ryan> Hi again NickPresta
[04:33] <K-Ryan> I'm running Fluxbox =)
[04:33] <ardchoille> NickPresta: YEs, gotta love the bot :)
[04:33] <K-Ryan> And yeah, Windows is mean to Linux
[04:33] <el_isma> recovering grub is always a PITA
[04:33] <NickPresta> Hey K-Ryan. ardchoille, that bot is quite awesome, yep. I'm curious to try Vista. I just want to play around with Aero and such.
[04:34] <Minataku> NickPresta: Don't
[04:34] <Minataku> Everyone I've talked to has said it's a complete load
[04:34] <K-Ryan> www.badvista.org
[04:34] <Minataku> I mean, more so than Windows usually is
[04:34] <ardchoille> Minataku: Hard to believe it could get any worse
[04:34] <Minataku> ardchoille: It did
[04:34] <K-Ryan> Believe it
[04:34] <el_isma> ardchoille: it did
[04:34] <Minataku> A lot worse
[04:34] <Minataku> lol
[04:34] <NickPresta> I am aware that Vista has a bad rep but I have extra space on my HDD and I got Vista for free so I might as well try it out. The worst that happens is I lose time, which I have a lot of this summer. =D
[04:34] <ardchoille> lol
[04:34] <Minataku> NickPresta: Don't
[04:35] <Minataku> Trust me
[04:35] <Minataku> You could die
[04:35] <Minataku> lol
[04:35] <NickPresta> lol
[04:35] <NickPresta> I'll take my chances ;)
[04:35] <Minataku> It's deadly bad
[04:35] <Minataku> XD
[04:35] <Minataku> Iraq is safer than Vista X3
[04:35] <el_isma> XD
[04:35] <NickPresta> speaking of HDD space, anything special I need to do to resize my /home partition?
[04:35] <K-Ryan> Standing next to a nuclear reactor is safer
[04:35] <Minataku> NickPresta: Don't do it
[04:35] <Minataku> :P
[04:35] <ardchoille> lol
[04:36] <K-Ryan> In fact
[04:36] <Minataku> If you're so hard-up to try it, use VMWare or something
[04:36] <K-Ryan> An unshielded, unguarded, nuclear reactor
[04:36] <K-Ryan> ...in Iraq
[04:36] <RadiantFire> safer than what... curse my connecting a second too late
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Vista
[04:37] <el_isma> I've seen it crawl on excellent pcs...
[04:38] <NickPresta> As I understand it, you cannot resize a partition while it's in use. I assume it would be fine to boot into the Feisty LiveCD, use G/QT Parted to resize /home (perhaps 6G for Vista) and then install Vista onto that newly created partition. However, my /home partition is in an extended partition - is that a problem (For Vista or Kubuntu) if I free up some space and use it for Vista?
[04:39] <RadiantFire> Be prepared for Vista to nuke the mbr
[04:39] <RadiantFire> all MS OS's overwrite the MBR with their own bootloader and provide no option to change
[04:39] <el_isma> And if it discovers you run Linux... your whole pc or home
[04:39] <RadiantFire> yes
[04:40] <el_isma> it'll call the police
[04:40] <RadiantFire> remember the Desolaters from Red Alert 2... they magically appear and deploy in your house
[04:40] <NickPresta> RadiantFire, yes, I know Vista will overwrite grub and how to get it back.
[04:40] <Minataku> NickPresta: Just use VMWare
[04:40] <el_isma> NickPresta: I think Vista won't like being installed in an extended partition. It'll mess your HD
[04:40] <we6jbo> How do you use superuser in Shell?
[04:40] <Minataku> RadiantFire: It's more like black helicopters with colored windows and a lot of flashy bling
[04:41] <Minataku> The Vistacopters
[04:41] <TeraDyne> !sudo | we6jbo
[04:41] <NickPresta> Minataku, I'm quite fine with attempting to install Vista. Thank you for the suggestion though. el_isma, I will do some research then.
[04:41] <RadiantFire> but green radiation is so much more fun
[04:41] <Minataku> And they'll crash into your house instead of land
[04:41] <Minataku> :P
[04:41] <TeraDyne> botlag...
[04:41] <RadiantFire> NickPresta: be aware, unless you have Ultimate, or Business Premium, using it inside a VM is a violation of the EULA
[04:42] <RadiantFire> however, this is somewhat offtopic for here
[04:42] <NickPresta> I have Ultimate (whatever the best, most expensive one is)
[04:42] <K-Ryan> RadiantFire: Running it successfully is a violation
[04:42] <Minataku> Since Windows never runs successfully
[04:42] <Minataku> It's never a violation
[04:42] <Minataku> ;3
[04:43] <inteliwasp> I am trying to mount a nfs folder, but i keep getting permission denied
[04:43] <TeraDyne> Minataku: I was just baout sto say something along those lines. However, I'm preoccupied. Secret of Mana for SNES
[04:43] <Minataku> Cool
[04:43] <TeraDyne> about to*
[04:43] <NickPresta> !ntfs | inteliwasp
[04:44] <inteliwasp> isn't that windows' file system?
[04:44] <NickPresta> forgive my typo
[04:44] <NickPresta> !nfs
[04:44] <TeraDyne> is the bot dead?
[04:44] <Minataku> Yeah
[04:44] <NickPresta> no idea.
[04:45] <inteliwasp> it's here but not oped
[04:45] <TeraDyne> Apparently...
[04:45] <Minataku> It's never opped
[04:45] <TeraDyne> NickPresta: You the same NickPresta as the one I see posting on GameFAQs?
[04:45] <NickPresta> Actually, I've decided to shrink the Windows partition. I only use it for games and I'm only using 20/35GB
[04:46] <NickPresta> TeraDyne, yes indeed. HWC 101 is my GF username ;)
[04:46] <inteliwasp> NickPresta: i am following this guide... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#head-a01961641dbc473cbd43f296b22fabafc6c6ee69
[04:46] <TeraDyne> NickPresta: Cool. I'm Yameneko594 there, though I rarely post anymore.
[04:46] <Minataku> Neko :D
[04:47] <NickPresta> TeraDyne, I definitely remembering seeing your name.
[04:47] <NickPresta> el_isma, no. I'm just going to shrink XP and install Vista on the newly created piece. My extended partition (with Kubuntu) won't be touched
[04:47] <defcon> I wish to get the linux-686-smp kernel for my P4 hyperthread processor, in synaptic, it says obsoleted by linux generic, would I see a performance increase with this?
[04:48] <el_isma> NickPresta: 15Gb will do for Vista? Methinks not.
[04:48] <dotz> !mount
[04:48] <dotz> !image
[04:48] <dotz> how to mount iso files?
[04:49] <Minataku> Vista needs 16GB of RAM just to crash complaining of low memory
[04:49] <Minataku> har har har
[04:49] <Minataku> X3
[04:49] <K-Ryan> =)
[04:49] <TeraDyne> dotz: the bot seems to be dead.
[04:49] <NickPresta> el_isma, hmm. You're right. Why the hell does Vista need 15GB of free space for a vanilla install? Oh well. I still want to try it.
[04:50] <humido_xxx> hi there
[04:50] <NickPresta> hi, humido_xxx
[04:50] <humido_xxx> any portuguese guy here? :D
[04:50] <TeraDyne> dotz: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files
[04:50] <Minataku> dotz: sudo mount -o loop,ro <filename> <mountpoint>
[04:50] <humido_xxx> hi NickPresta
[04:50] <Minataku> Or use mine
[04:50] <TeraDyne> Use Minataku
[04:50] <Minataku> Since I mount ISOs all the time XD
[04:50] <TeraDyne> 's
[04:50] <Minataku> Don't use me
[04:51] <TeraDyne> I hate my laptop's keyboard
[04:51] <Minataku> XD
[04:51] <Minataku> TeraDyne: I do that all the time
[04:51] <humido_xxx> lol
[04:51] <TeraDyne> I have a USB keyboard, I just haven't pulled it out yet.
[04:51] <Minataku> humido_xxx: There's #kubuntu_br and #kubuntu_pt
[04:51] <Minataku> I believe
[04:52] <we6jbo> Hi
[04:52] <we6jbo> I'm trying to get my Netgear Wireless card to work
[04:52] <el_isma> Minataku: You're the official ubotu today :)
[04:52] <dotz> ah! thx
[04:52] <Minataku> Haha
[04:52] <we6jbo> but I keep getting this, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[04:52] <Minataku> No thanks X3
[04:52] <Minataku> we6jbo: 2.6.15!?
[04:52] <Minataku> That's pretty freakin' old
[04:53] <we6jbo> Its not working
[04:53] <Minataku> No kidding
[04:53] <Minataku> There's either a mismatch or something is broken or it's already inserted
[04:53] <aznpridechinese> i tried the website for the sound but there are some commands they ask me to put in that i don't think i am putting in right cuz they dont' give exact command and i don't know how to figure out what i need to type in
[04:54] <Minataku> Check dmesg for more exacting info
[05:00] <mefisto__> is there a webpage somewhere that lists the changes in updated ubuntu packages?
[05:04] <ubotu> we6jbo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:04] <ubotu> inteliwasp: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:04] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[05:05] <carutsu_> there's no such seting, it does by default
[05:05] <carutsu_> oops
[05:05] <carutsu_> xD
[05:06] <TeraDyne> Botlag reaches level 20!
[05:07] <NickPresta> lol
[05:07] <mordaunt> what's the usual package one needs to add to get development tools in kubuntu?
[05:07] <mordaunt> i want to do some basic C stuff
[05:07] <mordaunt> dev tools? something like that.. right?
[05:08] <TeraDyne> build-essential is the package you want for your basic C and C++ compilers.
[05:08] <NickPresta> mordaunt, build-essential is what you seek
[05:08] <NickPresta> and crap. beat by 9 seconds =P
[05:09] <TeraDyne> XD
[05:09] <mordaunt> thankee NickPresta =)
[05:09] <NickPresta> haha. you're welcome.
[05:12] <mefisto__> is there a webpage somewhere that lists the changes in updated ubuntu packages?
[05:12] <paknefia> hi
[05:13] <paknefia> i got the problem with printing
[05:13] <zondo> quetal
[05:13] <paknefia> i use kubuntu feisty
[05:13] <zondo> alguien que hable espaol
[05:13] <K-Ryan> !es | zondo
[05:14] <ubotu> zondo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:14] <K-Ryan> de nada ;)
[05:14] <paknefia> where i can get driver for my HP LaserJet 1020?
[05:14] <zondo> ok!
[05:14] <K-Ryan> !printer
[05:14] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:17] <K-Ryan> paknefia: I don't suppose that helped at all did it?
[05:18] <paknefia> yup
[05:18] <K-Ryan> Oh okay, glad it did
[05:19] <K-Ryan> I just throw those out because usually people haven't been there yet.
[05:22] <paknefia> ok.. but actually i still have a problem..
[05:22] <paknefia> i just install foo2zjs
[05:23] <paknefia> but there is no HP LaserJet 1020 drivers
[05:23] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, strange
[05:24] <zeddicus> I have a HP Printer but it's only a ink jet and it was recognized fine by ubuntu feisty with no aditional drivers needed
[05:24] <intelikey> where to find mcopy ?
[05:25] <paknefia> there is just hp 1022 available
[05:25] <paknefia> but not hp 1020
[05:27] <intelikey> on a multisession data CD if you write the same file name on another session does it update the copy on the CD ?
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> paknefia: maybe the 1022 drivers will work?
[05:28] <linux_user400354> just recently my computer with linux started to open games in a small area surrounded by black instead of taking the entire screen. what is causing this and how can it be fixed?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> paknefia: or work well enough, at least...
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> linux_user400354: the game is trying to switch res unsuccessfully, it seems. check xorg.conf and make sure the desired res is listed at the desired color depth
[05:34] <droach> im getting an error while compiling my kernel with dazuko what the heck is that
[05:35] <droach> any one here
[05:35] <K-Ryan> Yeah it's just a little quiet
[05:36] <droach> ill come back tommorow when there is more people on
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> no patience with these kids...:P
[05:37] <TeraDyne> XD
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> wow, that dude's like right around the corner from me....relatively speaking
[05:39] <TeraDyne> who?
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> droach...
[05:41] <TeraDyne> Just a note, I got a 100 pack of DVD-Rs at Wal-Mart for $19.00. Maybe I should burn some Kubuntu and Ubuntu DVDs...
[05:42] <ubuntu> how do I mount the hard disk from a live cd?  There are files I want to save
[05:43] <TeraDyne> Grr... Bot is dead again.
[05:45] <TeraDyne> ubuntu-bound: You can find info on mounting paritions here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount?highlight=%28mount%29
[05:46] <ubuntu-bound> thank you
[05:46] <TeraDyne> No problem.
[05:49] <ubuntu-bound> and I was on that site, too.  How'd I miss that?  well, thanks again.
[05:50] <TeraDyne> now this is botlag: I use two bot triggers at [22:25]  and [22:42] , and I don't get responses until [22:48] . XD
[05:54] <arun> Hello, people
[05:54] <Dr_willis> TeraDyne,  batteries are running low.
[05:54] <TeraDyne> Dr_willis: Apparently...
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !botsnack
[05:55] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> slow tonight...
[05:55] <arun> Which KDE themes/styles do you guys use? Which are your favourites?
[05:56] <TeraDyne> Lazy bot. Just wants to eat instead of work...
[05:56] <crash_> lol
[05:56] <Bokanov> How do I go about acquiring libc header files?
[05:56] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis, what's up?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> Bokanov: maybe the glibc-dev pkg? if there is one.
[05:57] <TeraDyne> !find glibc-dev
[05:57] <ubotu> Package/file glibc-dev does not exist in feisty
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> guess not :P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  fireworks.. and building a birdcage
[05:58] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Still got the parasites
[05:58] <Minataku> I mean guests?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> yep.
[05:58] <Minataku> Heh
[05:58] <we6jbo_> hi
[05:58] <Dr_willis> and of course the wife has these OTHER projects for me to do at the same time.
[05:58] <arun> What's Domino?
[05:58] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I'll be waiting for those Amigas forever thanks to them! XD
[05:58] <we6jbo_> I have a question
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Yep.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> I did at least get the garrage cleaned a little today
[05:59] <we6jbo_> I can not find my wireless router with Wireless assistant
[05:59] <Minataku> That's good
[06:01] <HentaiXP> how to setup VLC to open all the files for the restricted formats?
[06:04] <arun> Doesn't VLC install all the required packages automatically?
[06:04] <RadiantFire> !restricted
[06:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:04] <ejortegau> hey guys... for kubuntu, do you recommend beryl or compiz?
[06:05] <RadiantFire> well, beryl no longer exists as a seperate entity
[06:06] <ejortegau> but i see that there are both families of packages for 7.04...
[06:06] <HentaiXP> how to setup VLC to open all the files for the restricted formats?
[06:06] <lovely> hello
[06:06] <RadiantFire> HentaiXP: you can set file associations in Konqueror using settings->file associations, but there is no magical way to set VLC for all restricted formats
[06:06] <HentaiXP> aight
[06:07] <RadiantFire> HentaiXP: if you have the correct codecs installed the default should work fine
[06:07] <RadiantFire> i.e. libxine1-ffmpeg and w32codecs
[06:07] <lovely> I am having trouble with my upgrade for dapper to edgy, xfonts,
[06:07] <HentaiXP> sorry ubuntu doesn't install them
[06:07] <ejortegau> RadiantFire: would you recommend compiz?
[06:08] <RadiantFire> I stay away from that stuff, it still causes problems for me... I'm gonna sit happily until KDE 4.0 comes out with built in compositing
[06:08] <keenan> How can I use a resolution higher than 1024x768?
[06:10] <robotgeek> !resolution
[06:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:10] <ejortegau> RadiantFire: i read somewhere it was not going to happen... at least not on 4.0. maybe 4.1 or 4.2
[06:10] <RadiantFire> ejortegau: I dunno, there are videos of it working on youtube
[06:11] <dustin> just bought an hd-dvd player
[06:11] <ejortegau> hmmm, will check that then
[06:11] <RadiantFire> ejortegau: basically, compiz in feisty is flakey
[06:12] <RadiantFire> ejortegau: if you must have something now, look into Compiz Fusion
[06:12] <Dr_willis> egads.. yet another name change?
[06:12] <RadiantFire> but that is, once again alpha...
[06:12] <Dr_willis> they all have been alpha! :)
[06:12] <RadiantFire> beryl & compiz merged, so they came up with anew name
[06:12] <robotgeek> yeah, i had issues with that too. it was nice, but too unstable
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I rember why i am just not using the stuff.
[06:12] <RadiantFire> I know... its one of those things that will never be serious... which is why I'm waiting patiently for kwin-composite
[06:13] <Dr_willis>  i sort of liked that Mandriva-Mettiss (metiss?) mettis? Demo/live cd.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> had some nice useable eyecandy addons. tht dident need a SLI8800 setup. :)
[06:14] <robotgeek> metisse desktop?
[06:15] <RadiantFire> yeah, they did a subtle, neat effects
[06:15] <RadiantFire> mandriva does good work
[06:15] <RadiantFire> its a shame the distro seems to have suffered lately
[06:16] <Dr_willis> 3ddesktop? thats just a fancy task switcher. I thought
[06:16] <Dr_willis> !3ddesktop
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <HentaiXP> !windows
[06:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:16] <HentaiXP> ..........
[06:16] <RadiantFire> roflmao
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: its a 3d desktop switcher is all, but runs under any WM
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> that's all i really ever used beryl for, all the other stuff got annoying
[06:18] <TeraDyne> !info 3ddesktop
[06:18] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:19] <TeraDyne> Beryl... *shudder*
[06:22] <TeraDyne> Beryl made my KDE desktop almost unuseable. I like some eyecandy (It's why I use KDE over GNOME), but I'd rather not sacrifice speed for it...
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> well, kde is a bit bulky to begin with, then throw beryl over that, yeah, its gonna eat some resources
[06:24] <TeraDyne> To make it worse, I'm using a 3 year old laptop. 2.14 GHz AMD XP 2200+ M with 512MB RAM and 64 MB of that shared for VRAM.
[06:26] <TeraDyne> Try running Bery on top of KDE on that, and you'll go nuts at the hit it takes in speed.
[06:32] <RodSteel> anyone know how to get open office to import the new ms docx format?
[06:32] <RodSteel> i imagine there's a plugin somewhere but i can't find it
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> RodSteel: no, i doubt it, MS proprietary crap...
[06:33] <TeraDyne> RodSteel: I don't think there is one yet.
[06:33] <ejortegau> is that thing xml based as well?
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> its an xml wrapper around a proprietary code blob
[06:34] <TeraDyne> ejortegau: A MS closed-source XLM, but yes. They call it OpenXML, IIRC.
[06:34] <TeraDyne> XML*
[06:35] <TeraDyne> XLM could be right. eXtra Lakes of Money...
[06:35] <RodSteel> yes.. it's xml
[06:35] <ejortegau> hmmm, does that make it easier to import it's documents or just about the same crap?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> How about that new OpenXXX format? :)
[06:35] <RodSteel> kubuntu opens it as a zip
[06:35] <TeraDyne> Dr_willis: XD
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> RodSteel: all it is is rendering instructions for the code blob as far as i can tell
[06:36] <lovely> I seem to have lost, or not had, the  usr/lib/X11/fonts file and all of its ingrediants in my upgrade from dapper to edgy. is there an easy way to rectify this?
[06:37] <RodSteel> yes, i think that is correct but is there any way i can compile it together into a coherent, formatted document?
[06:37] <K-Ryan> !floppy
[06:37] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> RodSteel: probably not...at least not yet, or at least without ms office
[06:38] <TeraDyne> Cool. I seem to have found a nice little Linux guide site.
[06:38] <RodSteel> teradyne, where?  i'm always up for learning more
[06:38] <TeraDyne> http://www.linuxhelp.net/
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> RodSteel: like i said, ms doesn't like to share their file formats, so you have to buy office from them
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> or at least hack around it :)
[06:39] <RodSteel> hitmanwilly, ah well, i can open the text but i just can't compile it with the formatting.  the students will just have to quit sending me documents in this stupid vista format
[06:39] <godlkwrth> lovely: can you verify that they're still there?
[06:39] <RodSteel> god, vista is such crap
[06:40] <RodSteel> drove me to linux in fact.  how awful
[06:40] <RodSteel> i've got office xp around
[06:40] <ejortegau> RodSteel: tell your students to send you PDF... if they as how to create a PDF, give them a D on their assignment :D
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> RodSteel: tell them to use odf, it should be usuable under ms office if they really need to use that, or OO.o
[06:40] <TeraDyne> I left that college, too.
[06:40] <RodSteel> i find open office to be as good or superior..
[06:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> or .txt :P
[06:41] <TeraDyne> or no extention...
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> true, the .txt was for simplicity's sake :P
[06:42] <TeraDyne> and so windows users could open it with notepad. XD
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> a real linux user shouldn't need anything but vim :P
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> j/k
[06:43] <TeraDyne> or nano, if they're a newbie. VIM still rules, though.
[06:43] <godlkwrth> ed
[06:43] <godlkwrth> heh
[06:43] <Minataku> I'm very experienced and I love nano
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> or echo and cat cmds :P
[06:43] <Minataku> vi is excessive
[06:43] <K-Ryan> I liked Kate at first
[06:44] <K-Ryan> And now use nano always
[06:44] <K-Ryan> <3 terminal
[06:44] <TeraDyne> echo + tee
[06:44] <RodSteel> i've been working on vim - it's quite a new concept for me.  i have essentially zero programming experience but do use syntax quite often for stats (stata)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> fte rules. :)
[06:44] <K-Ryan> ryan@ryan-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[06:44] <K-Ryan> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:44] <K-Ryan> What's wrong? =/
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> vim is nice for coding what with syntax support
[06:44] <Dr_willis> do like it says.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <godlkwrth> auto isn't an fs type?
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Someone suggested putting in auto
[06:44] <Dr_willis> specify the filesystem type
[06:44] <K-Ryan> I don't know what it is
[06:44] <K-Ryan> It's a floppy
[06:44] <godlkwrth> try vfat
[06:44] <Dr_willis> or fat
[06:44] <godlkwrth> or msdos
[06:45] <K-Ryan> wrong fs type on both
[06:45] <Dr_willis>  try fdisk -l /dev/fd0 :)
[06:45] <godlkwrth> lol? ntfs?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> I ainbt used a floppy in ages
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Doesn't contain a valid partition table
[06:45] <Minataku> I use them constantly
[06:45] <TeraDyne> XD
[06:45] <Minataku> Also
[06:45] <K-Ryan> I guess that'll do it, won't it?
[06:45] <Minataku> file -zrks /dev/fd0
[06:46] <Minataku> That should give info on it
[06:46] <Minataku> But I highly recommend disktype
[06:46] <Minataku> !info disktype
[06:46] <ubotu> disktype: detection of content format of a disk or disk image. In component universe, is optional. Version 9-1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 136 kB
[06:46] <K-Ryan> PC formatted floppy with no file system
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:46] <K-Ryan> What can I do about that?
[06:46] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:46] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Try disktype
[06:46] <Dr_willis> whats supposed to be on it?
[06:47] <K-Ryan> I wanna try putting this on there
[06:47] <K-Ryan> http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm
[06:47] <Minataku> PC formatted floppy w/ no filesystem usually arises from using a utility to low-level format a floppy
[06:47] <K-Ryan> The boot image
[06:47] <Minataku> Then not putting a filesystem on it
[06:47] <Minataku> Or using it for raw storage
[06:47] <K-Ryan> Minataku: No idea, lemme try a new floppy =)
[06:48] <Minataku> K-Ryan: It's fine
[06:48] <TeraDyne> Anyone watch the video of the Kubuntu talk at aKademy?
[06:48] <Minataku> You could use dd to image onto it
[06:48] <K-Ryan> dd?
[06:48] <TeraDyne> !info dd
[06:48] <ubotu> Package dd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:48] <K-Ryan> !dd
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <TeraDyne> XD
[06:48] <Minataku> man dd
[06:49] <Minataku> It's a core utility
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Ah
[06:49] <Minataku> You have it, trust me
[06:49] <Minataku> And if you don't, you've got a problem
[06:49] <K-Ryan> I've got it
[06:49] <TeraDyne> I don't know why, but "man dd" looks like someone giving two thumbs up...
[06:49] <Minataku> That'd be more like "b man d"
[06:49] <Minataku> Or even better
[06:49] <Minataku> b 'v' d
[06:49] <Minataku> Oooh
[06:49] <Minataku> b_'v'_d
[06:49] <Minataku> :D
[06:50] <TeraDyne> best linux joke ever > "touch man"
[06:50] <K-Ryan> I'm going  to need you to tell me more or less the command I'll need
[06:51] <Minataku> sudo dd if=<filename> of=/dev/fd0 bs=512
[06:51] <K-Ryan> alright, thanks =)
[06:51] <Minataku> np
[06:51] <Minataku> The bs part is important
[06:51] <Minataku> It's what makes a 3 minute write into 25 seconds
[06:51] <Minataku> lol
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Umm
[06:52] <K-Ryan> I forgot, there's something on the floppy
[06:52] <K-Ryan> How would I clear it?
[06:52] <Minataku> In that case
[06:52] <Minataku> You want to keep it?
[06:52] <Minataku> Or is it trash?
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Trash
[06:52] <Minataku> If it's trash, just run the dd
[06:52] <Minataku> It overwrites EVERYTHING
[06:52] <K-Ryan> input/output error
[06:52] <Minataku> Well, provided the image matches the disk size
[06:53] <K-Ryan> 25+0 records in
[06:53] <K-Ryan> 24+records out
[06:53] <K-Ryan> 12288 bytes (12kB) cpied, 1.3.... seconds, 0.1 kB/s
[06:53] <Minataku> Hm
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> or just dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd<X>
[06:53] <Minataku> No
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> to clean it out
[06:53] <Minataku> That won't work
[06:53] <Minataku> if=/dev/zero
[06:54] <Minataku> /dev/null returns an immediate EOF when read
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah, duh...
[06:54] <TeraDyne> wow. A lot of people left the server at one time.
[06:54] <Minataku> !netsplit
[06:54] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> netsplit
[06:55] <TeraDyne> Ah. didn't even think about that being the case...
[06:55] <K-Ryan> I'm going to try another floppy...
[06:56] <Dr_willis> It was an attack of the Krab People!
[06:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:56] <K-Ryan> It's just kind of hanging
[06:57] <Dr_willis> what are ya even trying to do with this floppy?
[06:57] <K-Ryan> http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm
[06:57] <K-Ryan> I'm on a huge project to make my old computer work
[06:57] <K-Ryan> Oh hey!
[06:57] <K-Ryan> It worked on this floppy =)
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Now to go see if I can do anything of use
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Heh - how OLD are those floppies? "_
[06:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:58] <K-Ryan> oooooooold
[06:58] <K-Ryan> As old as the computer
[06:58] <K-Ryan> And the computer is 10 years or so
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Heh.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> I got a stack of old little hd's in the basement. :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> I need to set up a PuppyLinux box or 2.
[07:00] <Minataku> Cool
[07:00] <Minataku> I collect computers :D
[07:00] <K-Ryan> My friend's dad does that and does nothing with them I'm pretty sure
[07:00] <K-Ryan> I should just pay a visit to him
[07:00] <Minataku> Send me some
[07:00] <TeraDyne> Oh, and IIRC, it even has Word Perfect 1.0
[07:00] <Minataku> XD
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Well he collects them
[07:00] <K-Ryan> So I think it's for some kind of a reason
[07:00] <Minataku> I have a Toshiba T1200
[07:01] <Minataku> PC/XT Compatible laptop
[07:01] <Dr_willis> I saw a Couch made out of APPLE GS cases once.. :)
[07:01] <K-Ryan> But he let his son and me tear like 3 of them apart
[07:01] <Dr_willis> MacSE fish tank..
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Not that we tore them apart
[07:01] <K-Ryan> We were ambitious and then just never kind of put them back together
[07:01] <Minataku> Ah, the old compact Mac fishtank project
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Take apart hard drives.. You get some nice shiny disks, and some really strong Magnets
[07:01] <Minataku> I have a working compact Mac
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Magnets?
[07:02] <K-Ryan> I thought magnets were bad around computer stuff?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> In the HD's theres 1 or 2 real real strong ones.
[07:02] <lovely> godlkwrth: the fonts?  I have three. 2 in /usr/share... and one in /sys/module, but the /sys/moduale is 0 bytes
[07:02] <K-Ryan> For that reason I guess?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> i think they are like to park the heads when power goes off.
[07:02] <Minataku> No
[07:02] <Minataku> They control the heads
[07:02] <Minataku> It works kinda like a stepper motor
[07:02] <K-Ryan> I'll have to check for the magnets next time
[07:02] <Dr_willis> ones i saw dident have any wires.. they were about the size of your fingernail.,  they were perment magnets.
[07:02] <Minataku> Except in a linear fashion
[07:02] <Minataku> The magnets don't have wires
[07:02] <Dr_willis> THey hold about 20 sheets of paper on the fridge! :)
[07:03] <K-Ryan> Okay well I'm going to screw around with the floppy
[07:03] <K-Ryan> brb
[07:03] <Minataku> There's a coil of copper wire on the back of the head arm
[07:03] <Dr_willis> We had some real real real kicking "linear" motors on machines at work.. 1x3 inch magnets that could really HURT when they snaped to somthing.
[07:03] <Minataku> Heh
[07:03] <lovely> the magnets are niobium or some such
[07:03] <Dr_willis> THose things hold about an INCH+ of paper to the fridge
[07:03] <Minataku> Yeah, and can easily crush you dead
[07:04] <lovely> check out www.wondermagnents.com for som
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Thats how ya measure magnet strenght right! how many of your Kids drawings they hold to the Fridge.
[07:04] <Minataku> You gotta be really, really, really careful with super powerful magnets
[07:04] <Minataku> That'll kill ya too
[07:04] <Dr_willis> :) There was a recall on some kids toys that had magnets in them the other day
[07:04] <lovely> how bout a one inch sphere thatle break a thumb if yer not carefull
[07:04] <lovely> magnent
[07:05] <Minataku> Or the ones Jamie used on Mythbusters
[07:05] <Minataku> The slighest error and BAM
[07:05] <Minataku> Your hand or whatever got between the magnet and metal is pulp
[07:05] <lovely> missed that one
[07:05] <Minataku> I think it was "Crimes and Mythdemeanors 1"
[07:06] <Dr_willis> these came in a 'row' for the motor to move with.  like a bunch of domonios laid out to a metal sheet.
[07:06] <lovely> so far quicksand is one of my favorites
[07:06] <Dr_willis> accidently set it down on a 1IN thick steel table... DOH!
[07:06] <Dr_willis> took forever to unstick it.
[07:07] <Minataku> Heh
[07:07] <Dr_willis> 2+ people and prybars to get it up.
[07:07] <Minataku> XD
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Industural!
[07:07] <Minataku> Then it's stuck to the prybar instead ;3
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Maganizized my Prybars
[07:07] <Dr_willis> and Caused Sterility!
[07:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:08] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[07:08] <Minataku> The only way a magnet would cause sterility is if a certain very sensitive part happened to get caught between
[07:08] <Minataku> XD
[07:08] <lovely> ouch
[07:09] <K-Ryan> Umm
[07:10] <K-Ryan> A boot image only contains what you need to boot right?
[07:10] <K-Ryan> Nothing beyond that?
[07:10] <lovely> anyone know why fonts would be lost in an upgrade, or more importantly how to fix them
[07:10] <K-Ryan> Well you wouldn't really fix them, you'd just need to get them again
[07:11] <K-Ryan> !fonts
[07:11] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:11] <ejortegau> !mplayer
[07:11] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:11] <ejortegau> !codecs
[07:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:11] <ejortegau> :d
[07:12] <K-Ryan> Psst
[07:12] <K-Ryan> A boot image is for booting only isn't it?
[07:12] <lovely> right, so them adept could be used yes?
[07:12] <lovely> and is it nessasary to fix that before continuing on to fiesty?
[07:12] <K-Ryan> No I just for some reason thought that the OS was on the floppy
[07:13] <K-Ryan> I'm too tired -.-
[07:13] <ejortegau> K-Ryan: what are you trying to do?
[07:13] <K-Ryan> I'm screwing around with my 10 year old computer trying to turn it linux only
[07:13] <K-Ryan> Right now it's nothing
[07:14] <K-Ryan> And barely working
[07:14] <ejortegau> hm
[07:14] <ejortegau> did you try dsl?
[07:14] <K-Ryan> But for the most part I have it under control
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Well that's the thing
[07:14] <K-Ryan> I put in the DSL disc and on boot it said something
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Hold on let me find it..
[07:14] <lovely> what about knopix
[07:14] <ejortegau> ok
[07:15] <K-Ryan> Isolinux: Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it... isolinux: failed to locate CD Rom device: boot failed
[07:15] <K-Ryan> lovely: It's 10 years old ;)
[07:15] <K-Ryan> But the thing about the CD is that it works on this computer, and another one
[07:15] <ejortegau> K-Ryan: what kind of hw do you have there? is it a standard IDE cdrom?
[07:15] <K-Ryan> Umm?
[07:16] <K-Ryan> I guess
[07:16] <ejortegau> K-Ryan: well, sounds like isolinux is not smart enough to access the cdrom and boot the kernel... so i'm wondering if you have some non standard hardware
[07:17] <K-Ryan> Dunno
[07:17] <K-Ryan> The CMOS battery is dead right now though
[07:17] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Try NetBSD
[07:18] <ejortegau> try minix ;)
[07:18] <K-Ryan> I'm going to try and put Fluxbuntu on it
[07:18] <Minataku> Heh
[07:18] <Minataku> NetBSD is a better choice for low-resource systems
[07:18] <Minataku> Though 1997 is fairly recent enough
[07:19] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Try Smart Boot Manager
[07:19] <TeraDyne> Minataku: Slackware!
[07:19] <Minataku> It can bypass bogus BIOSes and boot CD-ROMs
[07:19] <K-Ryan> Smart Boot Manager?
[07:19] <ejortegau> i don't think you want to try to run any fully XFree86 /  Xorg based recent distro... it will be too slow, even running TWM... you need something ligther, or and old distro
[07:19] <Minataku> Uh
[07:19] <Minataku> ejortegau: Wrong
[07:19] <ejortegau> how so?
[07:20] <Minataku> I run Debian testing on a P166 w/ 80MB RAM
[07:20] <Minataku> A little slow, but works just fine
[07:20] <Minataku> Even Firefox
[07:20] <ejortegau> well, from my experience, it sucks
[07:20] <ejortegau> though maybe you are more not as impatient as i am
[07:21] <Minataku> Let me guess, you have to have the latest stuff and it has to do everything immediately >:P
[07:22] <ejortegau> Minataku: well, i just got my laptop a month ago or something :)
[07:22] <ejortegau> so it runs pretty decent
[07:22] <TeraDyne> probably ran like a brick, though.
[07:22] <Minataku> Heh
[07:22] <Minataku> Sorry, I have little patience for those who have none for older tech XD
[07:22] <TeraDyne> Timing = win
[07:22] <ejortegau> it always runs like that if you install more than 4 programs...
[07:23] <Minataku> Here's a tip
[07:23] <Minataku> A real-time preemptible kernel is EXCELLENT
[07:23] <Minataku> Especially set to 1000Hz timing
[07:23] <Minataku> The performance boost is incredible
[07:23] <K-Ryan> Wish me luck with my CD burner
[07:24] <K-Ryan> It's crapping out lately
[07:24] <ejortegau> hmmm, i wonder how's kubuntu's default kernel compiled
[07:24] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: That's why I have an external DVD burner. Really handy if your internal burner dies.
[07:25] <K-Ryan> It's just as good as an external crapping out though
[07:25] <K-Ryan> It's my luck
[07:25] <K-Ryan> Really
[07:25] <Minataku> ejortegau: Probably badly
[07:25] <ejortegau> HAHAHA
[07:26] <K-Ryan> In another half hour I'll be able to use my other computer though...
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Well, my brother's computer
[07:26] <K-Ryan> He's not allowed up past 2am =)
[07:27] <ejortegau> too bad there's no config under proc either on this kernel...
[07:30] <ejortegau> any decent application to view network usage?
[07:30] <ejortegau> like a graph or something like that?
[07:30] <Minataku> Tired -o-
[07:32] <K-Ryan> I'm tired too =(
[07:33] <K-Ryan> I don't want to go to bed until I get this working
[07:33] <K-Ryan> Which could mean pulling an all nighter
[07:33] <K-Ryan> If I need that damn battery...
[07:34] <K-Ryan> I just realized I didn't shave this morning
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Well, yesterday morning
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: i take it you noticed some stubble around the bikini area?
[07:41] <K-Ryan> Errrr, my lip...
[07:42] <crimsun> what the
[07:42] <Minataku> Haha
[07:42] <crimsun> did I walk into teen chat?
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough.
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> (not touching that one with a ten foot pole)
[07:42] <morph_> hailz
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Wow
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> crimsun: i ocassionally feel the need to lighten the mood.  it's not often and it doesn't last long, so you can get back to shaking your cane at kids walking across your lawn.
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Download was going at a whopping 4Mb/s just now
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> thank you and goodnight.
[07:43] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Win
[07:43] <Minataku> XD
[07:43] <crimsun> stupid younguns.
[07:43] <morph_> is there a nice clock app for either kiba dock or beryl or kde?
[07:43] <K-Ryan> That's Mr. Youngun to you sir
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i prefer to be called Bill S. Youngun, Esq.
[07:44] <crimsun> mister?  To a person on IRC?  Riiight.
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Esquire? Hahahahhahah
[07:44] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> (bill s. preston, esquire.  catch up on early 90's cheese :D)
[07:44] <Minataku> lol
[07:45] <Minataku> I'ma head to sleep
[07:45] <Minataku> Night
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Night Minataku
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Wish me luck =)
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm off too
[07:45] <Minataku> Good luck :3
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> no clue what the problem is, but here's hoping you don't blow anything up.
[07:45] <K-Ryan> See ya' Daisuke_Ido
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Thanks =)
[07:45] <morph_> anyone have advice?
[07:46] <K-Ryan> I don't, it's always been the default clock for me
[07:46] <K-Ryan> With a little bit of coloring here and there for added spiffyness
[07:46] <morph_> cool
[07:47] <twosouls82> good morning :)
[07:47] <morph_> well im glad i have kiba and beryl working now
[07:47] <K-Ryan> Good morning twosouls82
[07:47] <K-Ryan> 1:47 in the morning =)
[07:47] <morph_> guess i can use the default clock for now aswell
[07:48] <twosouls82> wow :) I better get back to bed if it's still that early
[07:49] <twosouls82> K-Ryan: I forgive you
[07:49] <twosouls82> =)
[07:49] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Well I'm going to go screw with my other computer for the last time of the night
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Wish me luck and I'll see you guys tomorrow, errr, later
[07:50] <twosouls82> good luck K-Ryan, be nice to it :)
[07:50] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Thanks, see ya'
[07:56] <sx66> how do you add the battery, and wifi back to the panel?
[07:59] <t1n0m3n> is there anyone that could help with connecting to an 802.11a network?
[07:59] <knoppix> hey everyone.. i recently bought a hp slimline desktop with integrated 802.11 a/g wireless. I installed kubuntu and when iwconfig, i can see wmaster0 and wlan0 which supprt scanning. iwlist lists the essid correctly, but when i try to iwconfig and then dhclient for that network, I do not get an ip. I know the network is working because I could get on it from Vista and from my other laptop which runs linux. So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas on what
[07:59] <knoppix>  I could try
[08:00] <t1n0m3n> I have a Cisco 1200 AP with dual radios, I can connect to the B radio, but not the A radio
[08:01] <t1n0m3n> I have another HD with Windows XP on it, and it can connect to both A and B networks fine
[08:02] <t1n0m3n> I tried setting the mode manually with iwpriv eth1 set_mode 1 and iwconfig eth1 channel 44 with no success
[08:02] <t1n0m3n> I am running 7.04 and an Intel 3945 card
[08:03] <knoppix> can anyone help me the issue?
[08:05] <knoppix> well thank u all.. i guess i will try again later..
[08:05] <t1n0m3n> are you using a wpa_supplicant or WEP?
[08:05] <knoppix> it is an open network
[08:06] <t1n0m3n> what is your dhcp server?
[08:06] <knoppix> i am using dhclient.. if that is what u r asking
[08:07] <t1n0m3n> what is supposed to hand you your IP address?
[08:07] <t1n0m3n> like a router or something?
[08:07] <knoppix> well the dhcp server would be the router.. we have the network for the whole building
[08:08] <knoppix> but if u know the essid.. isnt that all u need to know?
[08:08] <knoppix> the gateway has an ip
[08:08] <knoppix> i know that
[08:08] <t1n0m3n> You are connecting, but not getting an IP right?
[08:08] <knoppix> well i am able to scan using iwlist, but when i try dhclient, i do not get an ip
[08:09] <knoppix> it says no leases..
[08:09] <knoppix> available..
[08:09] <knoppix> but if i boot into vista. I am able to get an ip
[08:09] <t1n0m3n> I would look on your dhcp server to see if:
[08:09] <t1n0m3n> 1. You are out of leases
[08:09] <knoppix> I am not. because i get them from Vista.. right
[08:09] <knoppix> ?
[08:10] <dotz> !nfs
[08:10] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:10] <t1n0m3n> 2. The DHCP server is assigning a lease but you aren't getting it
[08:10] <t1n0m3n> 3. The DHCP is not seeing the request
[08:11] <t1n0m3n> You could also install wireshark to watch the requests
[08:11] <knoppix> ok.. I dont think I can look at the dhcp server, coz it is like an isp which offers internet to the whole building. I guess I would have to call them
[08:11] <knoppix> but i can try wireshark
[08:11] <betty> hi
[08:12] <knoppix> thanks for the help. I will try some other things and maybe get back here if they dont work... hehe .. .thanks again
[08:12] <t1n0m3n> hmm, did you set up the wireless or did the building?
[08:12] <betty> hi
[08:14] <t1n0m3n> looking for some wireless help
[08:18] <Darkrift> anyone here know about getting a pocket pc to sync with linux?
[08:18] <Darkrift> i have some software i tried, but having probs troubleshooting it
[08:19] <rearl> anybody familiar with playing Enemy Territory on Linux?
[08:20] <rearl> anybody familiar with playing Enemy Territory on Linux from id software?
[08:21] <rearl> bye
[08:22] <angellama> hi!!, spain channels???
[08:24] <Hobbsee> !es | ag3r
[08:24] <ubotu> ag3r: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:32] <aznpridechinese> anyone here able to help me install my soundblaster soundcard?
[08:35] <balaji> hi friends how does one use gcc
[08:36] <balaji> i want to write some normal C programs for practice purposes
[08:36] <balaji> or say learn C
[08:39] <Daisuke_Ido> man gcc :)
[08:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you're better off googling for tutorials though
[08:40] <HentaiXP> screw C
[08:40] <HentaiXP> C++ FTW
[08:42] <balaji> ok so the programs which would normally run in turbo c/c++ wont run here?
[08:44] <balaji> ok so the programs which would normally run in turbo c/c++ wont run here?
[08:45] <tmbg> we heard you the first time
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[09:07] <aznpridechinese> can someone please help me install my sound card driver?
[09:08] <dotz> hi can i use sed to change strings inside a script?
[09:08] <dotz> like i got a name = dotz , can i sed $name ?
[09:08] <Arthea> HI
[09:10] <Arthea> is there a way to solve a missing driver for my ISDN usb modem while searching for atlantisland A01-IU1 linux drivers on google doesn't show any result ?
[09:10] <Arthea> like ...is there any workaround to make it work pls ?
[09:10] <dotz> !mount
[09:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:11] <dotz> !image
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <dotz> how to mount image????? iso files
[09:17] <crocodile> dotz - try google man
[09:18] <crocodile> not to be a dick but its a realy easy one by googling exactly what you asked
[09:19] <[nige] > hey all
[09:19] <[nige] > Can anyone tell me how to get a script to start everything I login ?
[09:19] <[nige] > I have stuck it in /home/user/.kde/Autostart
[09:19] <[nige] > but it doesnt seem to start it
[09:23] <rojo> Hi, I ran out of diskspace, I deleted loads of suff, emptied the bin but still kde wont start....any ideas?
[09:29] <dotz> i'm encoding something on a duo core cpu.. in top it shows cpu1 is almost 99% where cpu 0 is about 20%
[09:29] <dotz> how do i run another encoding on the cpu0?
[09:37] <DarkWizdom> is there any program to scan for shared folders in lan?
[09:40] <waylandbill> DarkWizdom: smb4k
[09:41] <DarkWizdom> thanks :)
[09:41] <Gunz> jj
[09:48] <aznpridechinese> yay i'm so proud of myself right now, i got my sound card driver installed without help from anyone! =)
[09:50] <aznpridechinese> i accidently closed the file view etc bar on my kopete how do i enable it again?
[09:51] <gindo> halo
[09:51] <gindo> anybody know how to remastering kubuntu ?
[09:57] <dotz> help, i accidently created a file called -dvddevice .. i try to rm -dvddevice but can't
[09:57] <dotz> even with ''s and ""s
[09:57] <dotz> how to remove
[10:01] <ryaren> !BadDevice
[10:01] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[10:03] <galorin> I just upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and xfce has started launching applications when I put in a CD/DVD/USB,and I don't want it to do that.  How do I stop it?
[10:05] <dee> hello
[10:05] <galorin> hello dee
[10:05] <dee> m/36/canada
[10:06] <Darkrift> lol
[10:06] <galorin> sorry,I don't swing both ways
[10:06] <galorin> besides my wife'd kill me
[10:06] <Darkrift> not sure anyone in here will care about your asl
[10:07] <threebl9mice> blue
[10:07] <Darkrift> yellow
[10:07] <galorin> fuscia
[10:07] <threebl9mice> green ...no red... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:08] <threebl9mice> what is the average air speed of an african swallow
[10:08] <threebl9mice> ??
[10:08] <gindo_halow> halow
[10:09] <galorin> 9.8metres per second squared when dead
[10:09] <threebl9mice> so whats happening tonight?
[10:09] <threebl9mice> ha ...watch python?
[10:10] <galorin> I'm trying to figure out how to stop applications from launching when I put in acd/dvd/usb
[10:10] <Darkrift> im trying to figure out how to get my damned dell axim to connect
[10:12] <threebl9mice> I'm trying to figure out how tim the magician did that boom thing.....
[10:15] <threebl9mice> is every one behind the curb onthis linux thing
[10:15] <threebl9mice> ??/
[10:17] <karthikp> Just how do I get compiz working on kubuntu?
[10:17] <karthikp> About once every month, I try to get it working, but I get missing window borders and basically, it looks like compiz crashes silently.
[10:17] <karthikp> And I go back to sweet old kdm.
[10:18] <ryaren> !process
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <ryaren> !kill
[10:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:18] <karthikp> And sudo apt-get remove --purge --die,evil creature,die! compiz-kde
[10:21] <galorin> I've never used beryl or compiz, but I don't use my main linux box in that way.. why would you want to use beryl/compiz anyhow?
[10:21] <threebl9mice> I'm watching third watch
[10:23] <karthikp> @galorin: Yeah, I see what you mean. Kubuntu looks really cool, but like I said, about once a month, the temptation of the wobbly windows gets too strong to ignore...
[10:23] <karthikp> So, it's time to howl at the moon and try to get wobbly windows in kubuntu.
[10:23] <Darkrift> kik
[10:23] <Darkrift> lol*
[10:24] <galorin> Have you tried sabayon livecd?It'llgive you your wobbly window fix,and not fsck your PC
[10:24] <karthikp> Only it never works and I wake up far from home with no memory of how I spent the night.
[10:25] <karthikp> So, that's like "insert cd, boot up, wobble windows, reboot, get back to work"?
[10:25] <galorin> yep
[10:25] <karthikp> Sigh.
[10:26] <karthikp> KDE4 has neato effects. Didn't hear nothing about wobbly windows, but neato effects, nonetheless.
[10:26] <galorin> if there was a way of getting 3d in an emulated or virtualised environment then that'd be another way to go.
[10:26] <karthikp> And of all distros, kubuntu 7.10 will come out like four days BEFORE it.
[10:27] <Darkrift> i thought vmware was free
[10:27] <galorin> backports or compile from source...
[10:27] <galorin> vmware doesn't do 3d.. I don't know of any virtualising software that does
[10:28] <Darkrift> i didnt say anything about 3d
[10:28] <Darkrift> lol
[10:28] <Darkrift> i was trying to install itand it says i need to purchase it
[10:28] <galorin> vmware player is free I think.
[10:28] <karthikp> It's the nature of this problem - it's not life threatning. Just this itch and surgery (compile from source. etc) sounds like overkill.
[10:28] <Darkrift> i just need somethign to install xp on so i can sync my pocket pc
[10:30] <galorin> itcan be done with vmware player.  qemu would do as well, but haven't looked at it in 6 months
[10:30] <galorin> usb might be a problem
[10:31] <Darkrift> id hope not
[10:32] <Darkrift> thats the "if all else fails, i had to do this" option for pda's
[10:32] <reldruh> hello. I had some trouble with the upgrade from edgy to feisty (namely, my system won't boot up at all. I can't even get to a shell prompt) so I'm trying to backup my home folder before doing a fresh install. I'm in recovery mode on the alternate CD and I can see all my files but I don't know how to back them up to my flash drive. I can't find it in /dev and I'm not sure where else to look. Does anybody know how I can backup m
[10:33] <aznpridechinese> can anyone help me out with kopete? first i closed the bar that has File, View, Edit etc etc on it second my budy list has two shades of color alternating one after another, first is black then other is white, and my text is white so the white on white background makes it impossible to see some of my buddies, how do i correct them?
[10:33] <galorin> reldruh, I suspect grub wasn't updated.  Get yourself a livecd
[10:33] <reldruh> galorin: I have one, but I need to back stuff up. Can I do that from a liveCD?
[10:34] <galorin> should do.  Have to mount your hard drives somewhere, and maybe the USB as well, but I've done that before.
[10:34] <reldruh> aznpridechinese: Ctrl+M should give you your menu bar back
[10:34] <galorin> you could update grub from the livecd as well.
[10:35] <reldruh> galorin: I mount the drives using the mount command?
[10:35] <aznpridechinese> thanks rel, now how do i correc the color problem?
[10:35] <reldruh> mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /mymountpoint ?
[10:35] <galorin> reldruh, yep, probably need to be root,or sudo
[10:36] <reldruh> all right, I'll give it a shot
[10:36] <reldruh> thank you galorin
[10:36] <galorin> don't thank me yet
[10:37] <karthikp> Kopete > Configure Kopete > Appearance > Colors & Fonts
[10:37] <reldruh> galorin: at the very least I can thank you for a prompt response that at least gets me around the brick wall I've hit :-)
[10:37] <karthikp> You can play with colors there...
[10:38] <karthikp> Or your chat window style might be a funny one...you can try reverting to the default Kopete style...
[10:38] <aznpridechinese> i did, but it doesn't change the colors for some reason
[10:41] <Darkrift> question if anyone knows... I am wondering if i could use the vm workstation evaluation copy to create a virtual machine, and then unisntall it and install the player and run the vm on vmplayer
[10:41] <Darkrift> anyone know if that would work?
[10:42] <aznpridechinese> i've also uncheck do not show user specified background color and forground color and rich text
[10:52] <nick_> hello!! I have a problem with adept! When I want to open an error appears and when I want to typ something in my konsole the following message appears: E: Type edgy-updates is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list does somebody know how to solve this problem
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> looks like there's a dodgy line in your sources.list. Take a look at it, and google around to find the correct line.
[10:52] <nick_> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:55] <nick_> I've found the dodgy line but I cannot save the sources.list file
[10:55] <nick_> how do I give myself permission to save it?
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> use sudo or kdesu when you open it
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> eg in a terminal "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:56] <jerry> this is weird
[10:56] <nick_> k! thank you
[10:58] <vmlemon> Hi, is it possible to use the Kubuntu install DVD to install the packages from the Internet, instead of from the DVD itself?
[10:58] <jerry> Every six seconds everything freezes for six seconds
[10:59] <nick_> I just removed the dodgy line but how do I save it now? ( in terminal)
[10:59] <SlimeyPete> nick_: ctrl-x
[11:00] <nick_> thanks ( I'm new with kubuntu)
 F2 if are smart and use mcedit
[11:01] <nick_> adept works.... great :p
[11:01] <SlimeyPete> :wq if you're even smarter and use vim, but I figured I'd tell nick_ to use nano as it is the normal editor for beginners ;)
 mc is better as it is a file manager as well
[11:02] <nick_> It worked for me...:)
 it does it all -- like the old norton commander -- midnight commander
[11:07] <nick_> where can I dowload update manager
[11:07] <vmlemon> Hi, can I use the Install DVD to begin an installation of the system, using packages from the Internet as the source?
[11:11] <aznpridechinese> how do i get nano in CLI to open up a doc i've created? when i type in nano my first web page it opens up like three different docs
[11:11] <aznpridechinese> and the name of my doc is my first web page
 u use mc
[11:15] <aznpridechinese> what's mc?
[11:16] <aznpridechinese> i just did a test, it seems CLI doesn't like opening files with spaces inbetween it
[11:16] <aznpridechinese> file names that is, i renamed it to firstwebpage.html and it worked fine, but how do i open it if it does have spaces inbetween the name?
[11:17] <jerry_> Ok I'm trying to burn a iso to a cd rw
[11:17] <anryko> write like that: my\ first\ page.html
[11:17] <nick_> try: my_first_.....
[11:17] <aznpridechinese> cool thanks
[11:17] <jerry_> I put it in, Blank CD-RW
[11:18] <jerry_> but when I drag the iso to the cd it says do you want to open it
[11:18] <anryko> jerry_: man cdrecord
[11:18] <aznpridechinese> didn't work
[11:21] <anryko> your file is "my first page.html"? if so, just write in the command: nano ./my\ firs\ page.html
[11:22] <aznpridechinese> cool that worked, can you tell me what ./ does?
[11:22] <aznpridechinese> and everytime i have to open a file with spaces in it i have to use \ at the end of each word of the file name?
[11:24] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: ./ means that it searches for the item in the current directory
[11:25] <anryko> \ you mast put infront of space simbol, because it is a special simbol
[11:26] <MaTiAz> yeah
[11:27] <aznpridechinese> does that mean if there was a bunch of files in a dir with dif names and one of them is named let's say the name of the file is "kubuntuxxxxxxxxxx" that all i have to do is type nano ./kubuntu and it will open that file without me typing the rest of the file name?
[11:27] <anryko> nano ./kubuntu*
[11:27] <MaTiAz> You don't need to put ./ when opening files with another program
[11:28] <vmlemon> Do I have to use the "Minimal CD" to install, or can I continue using the DVD?
[11:28] <MaTiAz> And you can press tab so it'll autocomplete the name :)
[11:28] <MaTiAz> I love that feature
[11:28] <anryko> :)
[11:28] <MaTiAz> Although it's a bit problematic when you have lots of files with a similar name
[11:28] <MaTiAz> like kubuntu001, kubuntu002 etc.
[11:28] <aznpridechinese> so why nano ./kubuntu* instead of nano kubuntu*?
[11:29] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: both work
[11:29] <aznpridechinese> cool, let me try that out
[11:29] <peter__> ich brauche mal hilfe!
[11:29] <anryko> ./ its just oldschool... sorry :)
[11:29] <MaTiAz> :)
[11:29] <aznpridechinese> cool! it worked thanks =)
[11:30] <MaTiAz> But if you execute a script or a binary and it's in your directory, you need to do ./name, otherwise it'll search for it from the locations in PATH :P
[11:30] <peter__> excuse me? I need help
[11:30] <MaTiAz> yes?
[11:31] <peter__> i have a problem with amarok, it cant play mp3
[11:31] <aznpridechinese> what do you mean PATH?
[11:31] <aznpridechinese> isn't that the same as the directory/folder?
[11:31] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: PATH is an environment variable
[11:31] <MaTiAz> path isn't the same as PATH :)
[11:31] <MaTiAz> You can check your PATH by typing echo $PATH in the console
[11:31] <aznpridechinese> ok i'm confused, fyi it's like my second day using linux/unix
[11:32] <MaTiAz> It'll print out some paths, bash will search for binaries in those paths :)
[11:32] <MaTiAz> Yeah, you don't need to know about that really :)
[11:32] <peter__> i have just installed all mp3 things but it doesnt work
[11:32] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: Just remember that bash doesn't search for your binary from the current directory if you don't execute it with ./
[11:33] <aznpridechinese> is that why you always have to type ./configure make install?
[11:33] <MaTiAz> yep
[11:33] <aznpridechinese> hmm
[11:33] <MaTiAz> Otherwise it'd search for configure in /usr/bin and some other places
[11:33] <aznpridechinese> cool
[11:33] <MaTiAz> :)
[11:34] <aznpridechinese> what do all those other folders do and which commands are tied to those folders by default and why?
[11:34] <peter__> hello can someone help me with this little problem?
[11:34] <Lat1n0S> yo! )
[11:34] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: /usr/bin contains all the programs
[11:35] <aznpridechinese> for some reason i don't have an icon in kde that i can click to let me browse /, i only have the icon for /home, but i can type / in konqueror to get there
[11:36] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: You can create one if you want though
[11:36] <aznpridechinese> how do i do that?
[11:37] <aznpridechinese> create a link to location?
[11:37] <MaTiAz> yeah
[11:37] <MaTiAz> I'm not in my linux box now so I don't remember how to do it :)
[11:38] <aznpridechinese> if you're not using kubuntu how come you're here?
[11:38] <MaTiAz> I use Kubuntu myself, but I'm not home now :)
[11:39] <aznpridechinese> ahhh
[11:40] <aznpridechinese> question, i saw live free or die hard. and those hacks seem to be using some short of unix base system. and i'm just wondering how those hackers would know all the commands to make facilities do different stuff? i mean wouldn't those facilities have special programs made for them alone? or is it just a movie thing and not realistic?
[11:41] <MaTiAz> Well I'd say its more a movie thing
[11:42] <aznpridechinese> but would it even be possible for a hacker to hack an electrical plant to give his home power?
[11:42] <TrueFX> perl -wnle 'print join " ", reverse split(/\s+/)'
[11:42] <MaTiAz> Well, dunno, depends if the machine controlling the electricity is connected to internet somehow :)
[11:42] <TrueFX> how can i reverse the words preserving the exact spaces ?
[11:43] <aznpridechinese> how would a hacker even know what command to use to do that?
[11:44] <MaTiAz> Dunno 'bout that, but in movies every hacker knows how to use every computer
[11:44] <MaTiAz> And they know how to read gibberish and understand it, just like in matrix :)
[11:44] <aznpridechinese> lol
[11:46] <TrueFX> perl -wnle 'print join " ",reverse split/\s+/'
[11:46] <anryko> TrueFX: hmm you can read file by one letter and add next letter in front of just read... then you gonna get reversed words
[11:46] <ksivaji> MaTiAz my system cant detect dvd which contain mp3 written in windows
[11:46] <TrueFX> how can i reverse the words preserving the same spaces between words?
[11:46] <anryko> TrueFX: thats just an idea :)
[11:46] <aznpridechinese> did you use vista?
[11:47] <aznpridechinese> ksivaji: did you use vista to burn the dvd?
[11:47] <MaTiAz> ksivaji: I don't know much about that, it may be some weird DVD burning settings
[11:47] <ksivaji> no it is burn in windows xp
[11:47] <TrueFX> anryko:???
[11:48] <aznpridechinese> did you burn it as an audio cd?
[11:48] <aznpridechinese> or data?
[11:48] <ksivaji> audio cd
[11:49] <aznpridechinese> try doing it as data cd
[11:49] <ksivaji> aznpridechinese what about already burned cd
[11:49] <ksivaji> dvd*
[11:50] <anryko> TrueFX: u have "a b c" if u read first simbol from file "a", then a " " and put it in front of file u gonna get " a", after reading all the dimbols in that whay, you will get "c b a"
[11:50] <aznpridechinese> well i know in windows you can use a rip program to convert your audio cds into mp3s
[11:50] <aznpridechinese> maybe you can find a program to do that in linux
[11:50] <ksivaji> aznpridechinese ok thanks
[11:51] <aznpridechinese> don't thank me yet it's my second day using linux so i don't know what i'm talking about but it's worth a shot
[11:51] <anryko> TrueFX: sorry for my english... :)
[11:51] <aznpridechinese> how do i type in color anyway?
[11:52] <TrueFX> anryko: u dont get my question
[11:52] <TrueFX> anryko: i ve asked something else
[11:53] <TrueFX> perl -wnle 'print join " ",reverse split/\s+/'
[11:53] <TrueFX> this takes every line as input uses one or more spaces as seperator between words and joins them back using ONLY one space
[11:54] <TrueFX> i want to reverse them preserving the same number of spaces used in original input
[11:56] <TrueFX> do i have to capture every space in an array and then join them in a loop?
[11:56] <TrueFX> is that the only practical solution?
[11:57] <anryko> it is the firs thing that came to my head :)... need to think about other solutions
[11:58] <TrueFX> in which array are stored captures?
[12:02] <anryko> i dont know perl :)
[12:03] <nick_> hello!! I've burned twice the ISO file of kubuntu 7.0.4. on CD-rom / DVD-rom but when I boot the CD/ DVD and select an option who appears ons the screen an error appears
[12:04] <aznpridechinese> nick: so the cd does boot?
[12:04] <anryko> but i woild read file by simbol to the stack, if meat space, wright the stack to the file, wright spaces, and when i meat not a space simbol, again read simbols to the stack, til i meet next space or EOF
[12:05] <nick_> yes
[12:05] <aznpridechinese> are you using a pc?
[12:06] <nick_> yes
[12:06] <aznpridechinese> did you download the correct architecture?
[12:06] <nick_> I'be tried to boot on 2 different computers but I get twice the same error
[12:07] <ksivaji> nick_ which option you chose for burning
[12:09] <nick_> first I burned it on my computer with kubuntu on it (with K3B) and I followed the instructions who appeared on the screen ( for burning an ISO file)
[12:10] <nick_> then I tried to burn it on a DVD rom on an other computer with windows XP on it and followed also the instructions to burn an ISO file
[12:10] <nick_> but with no result
[12:10] <ksivaji> nick_ better you go for shipit
[12:11] <nick_> I've already ordered it but I cannot wait :p
[12:11] <ksivaji> !shipit
[12:11] <icecruncher> is it possible to undelete stuff?
[12:11] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[12:12] <smylanakis> hello there..
[12:12] <nick_> and If I open the CD with XP ( without rebooting) a window appears ( with the logo of kubuntu) but after a while it dissapears and nothing happens
[12:13] <smylanakis> does anybody know how i can change permissions red-write etc on a partition i have that is mounted from my kubuntu ?
[12:13] <smylanakis> windows are installed on that partition
[12:13] <smylanakis> and i need permissions to get my files from there copyied somewhere else
[12:13] <smylanakis> since i can not loggin anymore
[12:13] <smylanakis> windows !!!
[12:14] <smylanakis> anybody?
[12:15] <icecruncher> !patience smylanakis
[12:15] <smylanakis> no problem.. thank you !
[12:16] <nick_> would it make a difference if I download the CD ISO file instead of the DVD IDO file?
[12:16] <icecruncher> smylanakis: how about starting konqeror as root?
[12:16] <icecruncher> nick_: not really, you only have mor software on the dvd
[12:17] <icecruncher> *more
[12:18] <nick_> k! strange...
[12:18] <smylanakis> konqeror ?
[12:18] <nick_> I already ordered it ! I think I'll have to wait...
[12:18] <smylanakis> i'm a newb sorry...
[12:18] <icecruncher> nick_: dvd?
[12:18] <nick_> yes
[12:19] <icecruncher> smylanakis: hit alt+F2 type : kdesu konqueror
[12:19] <icecruncher> nick_: didn't know dvd's where availbe, nice
[12:20] <smylanakis> ok did it !
[12:20] <friulhack> is there a hacker here?
[12:20] <icecruncher> smylanakis: go to /media and right click on the harddrive
[12:21] <nick_> I have the 6.0.6 version on my pc but I want the 7.04 version... but I do not know how I can upgrade it without installing it from a CD ( i'm a newb)
[12:21] <icecruncher> friulhack: everybody or nobody is a hacker, depends on your defenition
[12:21] <friulhack> ok
[12:21] <smylanakis> ok.. and now ?
[12:21] <friulhack> -.-'
[12:21] <nick_> that's why I ordered it ( the simpliest way...)
[12:21] <friulhack> i ask if there is someone that loves hacking
[12:21] <icecruncher> nick_: :)
[12:21] <twosouls82> nick_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-edgy-to-feisty/
[12:22] <friulhack> who?
[12:22] <friulhack> www.cyberc0de.net
[12:22] <smylanakis> ok.. and now ? :D:D
[12:22] <friulhack> go and see
[12:22] <icecruncher> smylanakis: go to properties
[12:22] <smylanakis> ok
[12:22] <smylanakis> next?
[12:23] <friulhack> do you like my website'
[12:23] <icecruncher> smylanakis: then you should enable read write for alll, not just owner and group, be sure to enable the check box for subdirectories
[12:23] <friulhack> where can i find a hacking channel?
[12:24] <friulhack> do you know a famous hacking channel?
[12:24] <twosouls82> friulhack: please behave
[12:24] <friulhack> behave?
[12:24] <nick_> I still have the dapper version... but I did something in my konsole and I think he is now upgrading to the edgy version ( I don't know what he's doing :p) and then I'll upgrade to the 7.04 version :p
[12:24] <friulhack> i'm italian and don't remember what means behave
[12:25] <smylanakis> yes the thing is that i cannot anable any of those
[12:25] <smylanakis> i don't know why
[12:25] <icecruncher> !it | friulhack
[12:25] <ubotu> friulhack: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:25] <smylanakis> but there is nothing that i can change !!!
[12:25] <icecruncher> smylanakis: it's greyed out?
[12:25] <twosouls82> smylanakis: ntfs?
[12:25] <icecruncher> twosouls82: most likely
[12:25] <twosouls82> :D
[12:25] <smylanakis> yes...
[12:25] <smylanakis> ntfs
[12:25] <twosouls82> no wonder then
[12:25] <icecruncher> lol
[12:25] <twosouls82> smylanakis: install ntfs-3g first
[12:26] <smylanakis> hmmmm.. so what know my friend?
[12:26] <smylanakis> lol
[12:26] <icecruncher> !ntfs-3g
[12:26] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:26] <smylanakis> from where ?
[12:26] <icecruncher> the thing above
[12:26] <twosouls82> smylanakis: you should read some documentation on Linux man :)
[12:27] <nick_> is there a place where you can see which version of kubuntu is installed on your PC?
[12:27] <twosouls82> cat /etc/issue
[12:27] <twosouls82> nick_: ^---
[12:27] <smylanakis> oh man i don't know wnything about it.. is it going to be a pain in the ass?
[12:28] <nick_> 6.10... good
[12:28] <smylanakis> if i am not far away from doing it is there anybody that can help me do it ?
[12:28] <twosouls82> smylanakis: depends on your own capacities
[12:28] <smylanakis> im really confused with this one..
[12:28] <nick_> then I can follow the instruction ont hat site to upgrade to 7.04
[12:28] <smylanakis> what do you mean ?
[12:28] <smylanakis> :D
[12:28] <twosouls82> smylanakis: Alt+F2 -> konsole -> sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[12:29] <icecruncher> nick_: yep
[12:29] <twosouls82> nick_: 6.06 is Edgy and 7.04 is Feisty (current)
[12:29] <smylanakis> ok thank ypou
[12:29] <smylanakis> next ?
[12:29] <smylanakis> :D
[12:30] <twosouls82> smylanakis: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[12:30] <smylanakis> you mean from the terminal ?
[12:30] <twosouls82> smylanakis: see the proper line in that file? (yes in the terminal)
[12:30] <smylanakis> ok
[12:30] <smylanakis> just a minute
[12:31] <icecruncher> twosouls82: it's necessary to mess with fstab?
[12:31] <twosouls82> icecruncher: yes; he needs to get it mounted using ntfs=3g, so yep
[12:32] <smylanakis> well a lot of shit came up
[12:32] <smylanakis> lol
[12:32] <twosouls82> see the line for the partition you need rw?
[12:32] <smylanakis> etc/fstab: static file system information.
[12:32] <twosouls82> smylanakis: ?
[12:32] <smylanakis> #
[12:32] <smylanakis> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:32] <smylanakis> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:32] <twosouls82> smylanakis: don't
[12:32] <smylanakis> # /dev/sda2
[12:32] <twosouls82> use a paste service
[12:32] <smylanakis> UUID=3bb8af20-dbe2-439a-a0e5-8e32259f43f8 /               ext3    defaults,erro$
[12:32] <smylanakis> # /dev/sda1
[12:32] <smylanakis> UUID=5AE83B9CE83B74FB /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=4$
[12:32] <smylanakis> # /dev/sda5
[12:32] <twosouls82> !paste | smylanakis
[12:32] <ubotu> smylanakis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:32] <smylanakis> UUID=e751336f-464c-4158-af08-54fd83c9e976 none            swap    sw           $
[12:33] <smylanakis> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:33] <smylanakis> yeahp here i am
[12:33] <smylanakis> what?
[12:33] <smylanakis> like ?
[12:33] <smylanakis> ok
[12:33] <smylanakis> ok
[12:33] <smylanakis> sorry
[12:33] <smylanakis> i didn't know..
[12:33] <smylanakis> ok sorry man i didnt know i am 15 minutes logged in.. first time :S
[12:33] <twosouls82> smylanakis: could you paste me a "cat /etc/fstab | grep /media/sda1" ?
[12:33] <Karti> Hi all, wonder if you could help. I have created a shortcut on my desktop to a folder in my home drive. It works fine but I can't seem to change the icon which looks like a page of paper, is there an easy way to do this? Many thanks
[12:33] <smylanakis> so what know ? is there anything else we can do ?
[12:34] <twosouls82> smylanakis: you will have it rw in a few minutes
[12:35] <twosouls82> smylanakis: change the line with "UUID=5AE83B9CE83B74FB /media/sda1..." to read "UUID=5AE83B9CE83B74FB /media/sda1     ntfs-3g       defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"
[12:35] <smylanakis> shit man how? i am really confused right know ..    lol
[12:37] <smylanakis> to change it how /? what is the way??
[12:37] <twosouls82> smylanakis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28610/
[12:37] <twosouls82> that's a fstab I have here
[12:37] <twosouls82> I have read/write on the partition called "/shared"
[12:39] <twosouls82> smylanakis: get it now?
[12:40] <smylanakis> no man just give me some time ok? i will reply to you soon telling you what is going on...
[12:40] <twosouls82> smylanakis: np, take your time
[12:44] <Karti> Its OK....found out how to change icons.......ta
[12:48] <smylanakis> well i don't know i think i posted you something right.. i don't know twosouls82 i can't send you a  private message either
[12:49] <smylanakis> what is going on in here man ?
[12:49] <smylanakis> twosouls82 ?/
[12:50] <smylanakis> twosouls82 ?/
[12:50] <twosouls82> smylanakis:
[12:50] <twosouls82> please be patient
[12:50] <twosouls82> I am helping more than one person at the moment
[12:50] <twosouls82> smylanakis: pm can be done now
[12:51] <smylanakis> i am my friend but my head is spinning.. i even tried to do the other thing but the problem is that i can not log in to windows.. i am talking about the ntfs-3g thing.. no success there too
[12:51] <twosouls82> I was 'away' according to Konversation
[12:51] <twosouls82> =)
[12:51] <smylanakis> lol
[12:51] <smylanakis> ok
[12:51] <smylanakis> so what know ? just leave it like that since nothing can be done ?? or what ? lol
[12:52] <twosouls82> smylanakis: private message bro
[12:52] <smylanakis> ok i'll be waiting my friend..
[12:52] <twosouls82> smylanakis: I meant; I am private messaging you
[12:52] <twosouls82> :)
[12:52] <smylanakis> ]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[12:52] <smylanakis> that's what i meant !
[12:52] <aznpridechinese> got a question, when i was using windows i always goto www.surfline.com to check surf report and videos. they use windows media player and quicktime player, but now that i'm in kubuntu i can't view the videos anymore. what can i do in kubuntu to see the videos again?
[12:52] <smylanakis> lol
[12:53] <twosouls82> smylanakis: not regged I see, than use the paste service
[12:53] <twosouls82> !paste
[12:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:53] <aznpridechinese> or just register, it's easy.
[12:53] <smylanakis> yes paste in your name what ?
[12:53] <smylanakis> shit man this is so confusing
[12:53] <twosouls82> smylanakis: I will tell you if you're right, when you paste it
[12:53] <smylanakis> how can o register at least..
[12:54] <aznpridechinese> yes it is smylan but i hope it gets easier with time.
[12:54] <smylanakis> yes to paste what ? what information?
[12:54] <aznpridechinese> click on that link
[12:54] <smylanakis> thanx <aznpridechinese>
[12:54] <twosouls82> smylanakis: the /etc/fsab file you edited
[12:54] <smylanakis> edited ? how ?
[12:55] <twosouls82> with "sudo nano -w /etc/fstab" earlier on
[12:55] <aznpridechinese> smylanakis this is how you register http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[12:57] <aznpridechinese> so anyone able to help with my video viewing problem?
[12:58] <jussi01> !w32codecs
[12:58] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:58] <smylanakis> just a minute please>
[12:58] <jussi01> !restricted | aznpridechinese
[12:58] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <smylanakis> ok i can now write private messages
[12:58] <smylanakis> at last !
[12:58] <jussi01> :)
[01:00] <aznpridechinese> what's restricted jussi?
[01:00] <aznpridechinese> thanks for the links ubotu
[01:02] <fssssssssssh> can anyone tell me howto make a watermark out of a graphic that is opened in open office OR gimp ?
[01:03] <aznpridechinese> damn i'm so unused to the sound in linux everytime i hear something i jump out of my seat!
[01:06] <BONETHUGS333> hello i search a good turtorial about proxys in linux. anybody know a good one?
[01:09] <llutz> BONETHUGS333: squid
[01:10] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:11] <llutz> BONETHUGS333: http://www.squid-cache.org/  Documentation
[01:11] <Ace2016> can i install kubuntu from the alternative installer and stop it wiping my existing grub???
[01:11] <Ace2016> stop at the grub install part of the install???
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> i followed the instructions on the link you gave me ubotu but firefox is still asking me for a plugin?
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> hi ace
[01:12] <llutz> Ace2016: the kubuntu-alternate asks where to install grub
[01:12] <Ace2016> oh, its been so long since i've reinstalled
[01:13] <BONETHUGS333> thanks
[01:13] <Ace2016> thanks
[01:15] <harry> Hi alll
[01:15] <harry> Need some help in Ubuntu
[01:15] <harry> I am having Frequent Firefox Crashes in Kubuntu
[01:16] <Darky> start firefox in console and report the issue
[01:16] <harry> I am having Frequent Firefox Crashes in Kubuntu
[01:16] <harry> okay
[01:17] <harry> Just minute
[01:18] <harry> I opened firefox in terminal and this occured, but the firefox also started
[01:18] <harry> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[01:18] <harry>   Major opcode:  145
[01:18] <harry>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:18] <harry>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:18] <harry> Failed to open device
[01:18] <harry> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[01:18] <harry>   Major opcode:  145
[01:18] <harry>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:18] <harry>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:18] <harry> Failed to open device
[01:18] <Darky> these errors doesn't matter
[01:18] <harry> okay
[01:18] <harry> The crash occurs randomly
[01:19] <Darky> and there's no output why it crashs?
[01:19] <harry> so what u are suggesting it is ,... i kep working on firefox with the terminal window running parallely , so when the crash will occur i will get the error messge in that
[01:19] <Darky> yes I hope so
[01:20] <harry> then , i shud report that eroe
[01:20] <harry> okay ?
[01:20] <harry> error
[01:20] <Darky> yes
[01:20] <Darky> or google for it
[01:20] <harry> will u be here for that ?
[01:20] <Darky> dunno, have to go soon
[01:21] <Darky> all other applications run fine?
[01:21] <Ace2016> i was thinking about making a custom kubuntu livecd and calling it kubuntu but with the ub removed and i realised that it sounds like that other word that everyone avoids using
[01:21] <harry> yeah all other applications run fine
[01:21] <harry> firfox is the one which crashes
[01:21] <Darky> maybe a reinstall will help
[01:21] <Arthea> hello Darky :) can you tell me where to get from windows some apps for kubuntu pls ? since i can't make my isdn usb modem to work ( and doesn't look is supported anywhere -_-)
[01:22] <Arthea> so i can install them anyway
[01:22] <Darky> apt-get remove firefox --purge
[01:22] <Darky> apt-get install firefox
[01:22] <sweettooth> hey there, any thoughts on the Clam antivirus software? i want to install one and scan my mobile drives but i wasnt sure if this one is any good
[01:22] <Darky> Arthea: just mount your windows partition
[01:23] <Arthea> ?
[01:23] <Arthea> i meant download them from windws then reboot on kubuntu and install manually
[01:24] <Darky> yes do it
[01:24] <Darky> dpkg -i paket.deb
[01:24] <Arthea> but from where ? ^^;
[01:24] <Darky> the URLs are in your sources.list
[01:24] <Arthea> ok thx :)
[01:24] <Darky> "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:25] <Darky> cya
[01:25] <admin_> hey
[01:26] <admin_> anyone here?
[01:26] <admin_> hey
[01:27] <Lynoure> wow, that was self-elimination through excess "anyone"ing
[01:31] <Arthea> i wonder ...is it possible to use xp through virtualbox in ubuntu and connect to internet using that ?
[01:31] <Arthea> or since ubuntu doesn't see it won't work ?
[01:32] <user__> I think so
[01:33] <user__> right now I in virtualbox guest of kubuntu
[01:33] <Arthea> i meant kubuntu
[01:34] <user__> I'm running another linux as the host
[01:34] <Arthea> but then again since kubuntu doesn't see/find my usb modem prolly won't work anyway
[01:35] <anryko> Arthea: why do u nead that... just go to the win, download the files, then go to the linux, mount win partitions and get downloaded files
[01:37] <Arthea> well...i wanted to get rid of windows ...but since i use my conn a lot it makes it impossible
[01:38] <Lynoure> Arthea: conn?
[01:38] <Arthea> guess my only choice is to either buy on internet a supported one (since i can't one here in my city and around )
[01:38] <anryko> Athea: use linux supported modem
[01:38] <Arthea> bandwith/connection
[01:39] <Lynoure> maybe you can exchange the modem with someone, or get a new one?
[01:40] <Arthea> i tried to find one but in a 30 km radius no store has it ..or they promised to get one ...and never got one (this is an used one a friend sent me that he didn't use anymore)
[01:40] <Arthea> so i guess i'll have to find one on ebay or somethingu
[01:40] <Arthea> -u
[01:41] <Arthea> all around here there is broadband ...but not here
[01:41] <Arthea> so isdn is not something any shop will keep
[01:41] <aznpridechinese> how do i setup my kde so that the mouse clicking isn't like web and it's more like windows?
[01:42] <RadiantFire> aznpridechinese: go to system-settings->mouse and keyboard->mouse
[01:42] <RadiantFire> aznpridechinese: I've found the single click configuration grows on you though
[01:43] <podstavsky> hi guys! i've got a little problem... is there any conflicts between runit and dpkg?
[01:44] <aznpridechinese> it's hard when i'm trying to just select a file and it opens it instead
[01:44] <RadiantFire> drag boxes over the file
[01:45] <RadiantFire> but thats how you do it
[01:45] <aznpridechinese> yah that's what i don't like lolz
[01:45] <RadiantFire> there is a radio selector for open with single/double mouse click
[01:46] <YazzY> howdy
[01:46] <YazzY> what is the naem of the "applet" showing networking satus and letting you configure certain things in the panel?
[01:46] <YazzY> mine seems to be gnoe and i would like it to be there again
[01:46] <RadiantFire> knetworkmanager
[01:47] <YazzY> thanks RadiantFire
[01:54] <vit_> hola
[01:55] <jaimelepinard> http://pinaroland.miniville.fr/
[01:55] <kavia> Hi, I've problem with my cdrom is disappeared after installation!!!
[01:55] <jaimelepinard> http://pinaroland.miniville.fr/
[01:55] <jaimelepinard> http://pinaroland.miniville.fr/
[01:55] <jaimelepinard> http://pinaroland.miniville.fr/
[01:56] <kavia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/124187
[01:56] <landor> disappeared how? is there a disc in it still?
[01:56] <kavia> landor: it isn't recognized at all
[01:56] <harry> #adult
[01:56] <kavia> with or without disc inside
[01:57] <jaimelepinard> http://pinaroland.miniville.fr/
[01:57] <jaimelepinard> http://pinaroland.miniville.fr/
[01:59] <kavia> any ideas?
[02:01] <fsssh> can anyone tell me howto make a watermark out of a graphic that is opened in open office OR gimp ?
[02:03] <aznpridechinese> you can do it in photoshop, basically make the opacity lower and it should look like a watermark
[02:05] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: same in gimp
[02:10] <aznpridechinese> what is gimp?
[02:11] <aznpridechinese> gimp is usually used in gaming community as a meaning of crappy or underpowered.
[02:11] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: it's similar to photoshop
[02:11] <aznpridechinese> really? is it as good as cs3?
[02:12] <aznpridechinese> cuz the quick select tool in cs3 kicks ass
[02:12] <aznpridechinese> quick select tool=super smart magic wand
[02:13] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: I have not used cs3. But it's not for Linux nor free, right?
[02:13] <aznpridechinese> hell no it's not free
[02:13] <aznpridechinese> i work in kinko's that's how i even know how to use it to a degree
[02:13] <aznpridechinese> cs3 is the latest version of photoshop
[02:14] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: well, then, if Gimp does not have the feature, maybe someone will code it in for just worth of one cs3 license fee...
[02:14] <Lynoure> (or ever for free)
[02:14] <aznpridechinese> why would they need a license fee? why can't they just make one of their own without looking at cs3's source codes?
[02:14] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: yes, you can.
[02:14] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: can you, personally?
[02:15] <aznpridechinese> no i'm not a programmer, infact it's my third day using unix/linux system
[02:15] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: If not, sometimes a little bribery helps.
[02:15] <aznpridechinese> although i'm super proud of myself though, i've got my desktop configured to look cool, but not as cool as some of the themes i see in kde.look.org
[02:15] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: usually programmers make what _they_ want or need, as it is their time and they don't get paid. So offering them money helps them to work on stuff _you_ want.
[02:16] <aznpridechinese> well, isn't it what "we" the open source people want instead of i?
[02:16] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: actually, no. The people who do the work decide what they do.
[02:17] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: the rest can ask, or beg, but not really dictate, even as a community
[02:17] <aznpridechinese> yah, but i think you missed my point, i don't actually need it or even use it much since i'm not a graphics designer.
[02:18] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: it was you passive. not you in personal
[02:18] <aznpridechinese> that's cool
[02:18] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: Sorry if it was confusing, I'm not a native speaker of English
[02:18] <pavel_T> I am too
[02:18] <aznpridechinese> oh, that's cool. i'm not either but i've been in US for about 12 years.
[02:19] <aznpridechinese> and i've totally forgotten my native tongue
[02:19] <pavel_T> ^)
[02:19] <pavel_T> :)
[02:19] <pavel_T> are you from chinese?
[02:19] <aznpridechinese> hey you want to take a look at a snapshot of my desktop and maybe tell me how i can make it look better?
[02:19] <aznpridechinese> yes i'm chinese
[02:19] <pavel_T> cool
[02:20] <pavel_T>  i have learne chinese a little
[02:21] <aznpridechinese> really? that's cool, i wish i had kept up with it. everytime i goto a chinese restaurant and try to order in chinese i sound like a complete idiot
[02:22] <nick_> hello! how can I see what my version of kubuntu is?
[02:24] <nick_>  hello! how can I see what my version of kubuntu is?
[02:24] <aznpridechinese> why is my firefox slower than my konqueror broswer?
[02:25] <nick_>  hello! how can I see what my version of kubuntu is?
[02:27] <epimeth> ahoy folksies!  been a little while :-)
[02:27] <kavia> nick_: ctrl+alt+F1 to back to graphic ctrl+alt+F7
[02:28] <|sahin_w|> nick_: From a terminal cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:29] <nick_>  and does somebody know how to install byril on kubuntu 7.04
[02:29] <nick_> beryl*
[02:30] <s0urce> i did 1min ago :)
[02:30] <s0urce> but if i start it crashs
[02:30] <s0urce> :/
[02:30] <kavia> !beryl
[02:30] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:31] <aznpridechinese> is beryl like kde?
[02:31] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: It's an extension
[02:31] <MaTiAz> It makes the windows wobble and other cool stuff :)
[02:31] <aznpridechinese> then what is kde?
[02:32] <aznpridechinese> i can get it from adept manager right?
[02:33] <aznpridechinese> woot installing it right now
[02:33] <sahin_w> aznpridechinese: "KDE is a powerful Free Software graphical desktop environment for Linux and Unix workstations."
[02:33] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: If you are on kubuntu, kde offers the desktop environment you'll be using.
[02:33] <aznpridechinese> so beryl is an enhancement of kde?
[02:34] <nick_> but where can I get beryl???
[02:34] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: not only kde, works with gnome too...
[02:34] <aznpridechinese> so now that i've installed it what do it do with it?
[02:34] <Lynoure> aznpridechinese: and more eyecandy than enhancement
[02:34] <aznpridechinese> cool i love eyecandy!
[02:34] <aznpridechinese> i've got a powerful GPU i want it work for the money i put into it
[02:35] <aznpridechinese> so now that i've installed it do i need to reboot to see any difference or be able to use it?
[02:36] <tetrimino> is it possible to get dosbox for Kubuntu? cause i doesn't seem to work
[02:37] <tetrimino> i wont download it when i type sudo apt-get install dosbox
[02:41] <tetrimino> please help me
[02:42] <tetrimino> please
[02:45] <pag> tetrimino, does it give any arror?
[02:45] <pag> error even :)
[02:45] <BONETHUGS333> i know its a stupid question but how to install squid with (k)ubuntu o.o
[02:45] <tetrimino> wait i sec
[02:46] <epimeth> !ask | tetrimino
[02:46] <ubotu> tetrimino: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:46] <pag> !info squid | BONETHUGS333
[02:46] <ubotu> bonethugs333: squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 625 kB, installed size 1600 kB
[02:46] <tetrimino> well i cant get dosbox to work
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> tetrimino: what's the error?
[02:47] <epimeth> hay guys... is there *still* a problem with the bcm 4318???
[02:47] <BONETHUGS333>  thanks but i dont find the install dat -.-
[02:47] <tetrimino> its says that /var/lib/dpkg/lock is locked
[02:47] <pag> !fixadept | tetrimino
[02:47] <ubotu> tetrimino: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:48] <tetrimino> thanks :D
[02:48] <tetrimino> it work :d
[02:48] <pag> BONETHUGS333, huh? did you try  sudo apt-get install squid  ?
[02:49] <BONETHUGS333> no im new by using kubuntu -.-
[02:50] <BONETHUGS333> thx it works =)
[02:50] <TechSalvager> not ##windows? oh wait .........
[02:51] <epimeth> hay guys... is there *still* a problem with the bcm 4318???
[02:52] <SlimeyPete>  should think so. Broadcom stuff is still notoriously unreliable under Linux.
[02:54] <Diablo93> ciao a tutti
[02:54] <epimeth> arg... what kills me is that this is a dell... aren't they going pro-ubuntu these days?
[02:54] <Diablo93> parlate italiano?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> !it | Diablo93
[02:55] <ubotu> Diablo93: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:55] <Diablo93> io sono italiano
[02:55] <Diablo93> ok grazie
[03:00] <nick_> direct rendering: No | I'll have to install the correct driver! but how do I do that ( I'm new)
[03:02] <aznpridechinese> can someone tell me how i can install this theme right now? i've install beryl and compiz but it's still can't install sucessfully http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44349&forumpage=0
[03:04] <aznpridechinese> anyone?
[03:04] <boguh> while kde4 be in 7.10?
[03:04] <MaTiAz> aznpridechinese: get emerald theme manager
[03:04] <MaTiAz> And #ubuntu-effects is for help with beryl etc. :)
[03:04] <Lynoure> boguh: I hope not.
[03:04] <aznpridechinese> thanks
[03:04] <epimeth> I forget where I can get 915resolution from?
[03:04] <Lynoure> boguh: because some apps I like in kde will probably not be ported by then.
[03:05] <boguh> Lynoure for instance?
[03:05] <aznpridechinese> syas in adept manager that i have emerald installed
[03:06] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 on my notebook w/o mouse wheel. How can I set the 3rd mouse button to emulate one? I've seen this before: Clicking it and then moving the mouse scrolls page up/dn (at least in Konqueror) ...
[03:06] <etalli> Sysinfo for 'etalli-laptop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz at 798 MHz (1597 bogomips), HD: 4/52GB, RAM: 643/1003MB, 106 proc's, 8.33h up
[03:06] <Lynoure> boguh: can you tell me examples of ones that have been, already? Amarok might be, maybe...
[03:07] <shane2peru> vlt: click on the menu and select System Settings then
[03:07] <boguh> Lynoure no cant tell you, thought the apps going hand in hand with the DE
[03:07] <shane2peru> vlt: click on Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse, you should find some settings in there.
[03:07] <Lynoure> boguh: no, most apps are a separate projects...
[03:08] <Lynoure> boguh: at least with basket (which I dearly love) porting has not even really been started
[03:09] <ryaren> hi alll!
[03:09] <ryaren> What player do you offer to watch videos?
[03:10] <Lynoure> boguh: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Boring_2.0_Todo if up to date, shows Amarok has not been either.
[03:10] <ryaren> !avi
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <MaTiAz> ryaren: Mplayer is a good one
[03:11] <vlt> shane2peru: Hmm ... Can't find anything that fits my needs. What's the name of the function I have to activate?
[03:13] <shane2peru> vlt: hang on I'm looking :)
[03:13] <ryaren> and mp3?
[03:14] <ryaren> !mp3
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <shane2peru> vlt: I'm not sure, sorry, post your question again, I'm sure someone knows.
[03:16] <ryaren> Where can I get an avi codec?
[03:16] <eagles0513875> download vlc player
[03:17] <eagles0513875> that will allow you to play avi files
[03:17] <ryaren> Is there any codec fopr mplayer?
[03:18] <MaTiAz> ryaren: It doesn't need codecs
[03:18] <ryaren> but i have an error message when i play an avi files
[03:18] <ryaren> -s
[03:18] <MaTiAz> hmm
[03:19] <eagles0513875> ryaren: dont use kaffien to play them right click and then choose the program
[03:19] <ryaren> Error opening/intializing video output
[03:19] <ryaren> I use mplayer :)
[03:19] <MaTiAz> That's a different thing then
[03:19] <gumjo> From preferences, choose a different video driver (try X11)
[03:20] <mendred> ryaren: u may also get that if u have another video player open..say kaffeine is opened first and then u open mplayer
[03:21] <ryaren> just mplayer open
[03:22] <mendred> ryaren: in preferences select video
[03:22] <mendred> which driver is it using?
[03:22] <mendred> xv?
[03:22] <ryaren> a sec
[03:23] <ryaren> gl
[03:24] <mendred> ah change it to xv
[03:24] <ryaren> when I change the driver and restart the program and than play an avi the program freeze
[03:24] <mendred> ur not using compiz
[03:24] <mendred> are u?
[03:24] <ryaren> !compiz
[03:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:24] <ryaren> hmm
[03:24] <ryaren> i have opengl
[03:24] <mendred> ok i guess u r not :)
[03:25] <mendred> dont worry about it
[03:25] <mendred> change it to xc
[03:25] <mendred> xv
[03:25] <mendred> and try
[03:25] <ryaren> the progrem is freezing
[03:25] <vlt> shane2peru: Ok, thanks, I'll try again.
[03:26] <mendred> ryaren: it freezes when u change the driver or it freezes when u play the avi
[03:26] <shane2peru> vlt: np, sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[03:26] <ryaren> whne i play the avi
[03:28] <mendred> does the file play with other players? say vlc/kaffeine(xine)
[03:28] <ryaren> vlc is okay
[03:28] <ryaren> it plays the files
[03:29] <egon> hi can someone help me with a computergame? i want start :(
[03:29] <mendred> try one last thing
[03:29] <mendred> kill it
[03:29] <ryaren> but I can't use anything because it freeze if i turn on the volume or something like that
[03:29] <mendred> wait
[03:29] <mendred> are u saying that it starts normally
[03:29] <mendred> but freezes when u change the volume?
[03:29] <Gabz> hey how do i force a disk check on reboot ?
[03:29] <ryaren> for example
[03:30] <ryaren> or I turn on the full view then back to windowed mode
[03:30] <ryaren> it is always freezing
[03:30] <mendred> hmmm
[03:30] <mendred> ryaren: Beyonf me :) i guess u can try #mplayer and see if they can help
[03:31] <mendred> ryaren: only this file or all types of videos ?
[03:31] <Gabz> !fsck
[03:31] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:32] <Gabz> thanks bot :P
[03:33] <giordano_> ciao a tutti
[03:33] <giordano_> c' nessuno
[03:33] <BluesKaj> !it | giordano_
[03:33] <ubotu> giordano_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:33] <giordano_> sorry!!!
[03:34] <BluesKaj> i
[03:34] <giordano_> I don't know this application
[03:34] <BluesKaj> it's ok giordano_
[03:35] <giordano_> I'm a new member of linux world
[03:36] <MaTiAz> Same here :)
[03:36] <BluesKaj> I still consider my self new , even after 15mos
[03:36] <giordano_> and i will install a different irc application,but I don't Know that
[03:37] <ksivaji> BluesKaj is there any dictionary software in ubuntu
[03:37] <giordano_> anyone can help me,please!!!
[03:37] <BluesKaj> Konversation is a good irc client
[03:38] <giordano_> ok,bye!!
[03:38] <BluesKaj> giordano_, click on the freenode tab and type: /join #ubuntu-it
[03:38] <giordano_> thanks a lot of for help!!
[03:39] <giordano_>  /join #ubuntu-it
[03:39] <giordano_> ???
[03:39] <ksivaji> BluesKaj  is there any dictionary software in ubuntu
[03:39] <BluesKaj> type it in the freenode server textbox
[03:43] <rati> how to block https sites
[03:45] <BluesKaj> rati, block ?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> they are the secure sites
[03:46] <VSpike> Are there any site which show some example ways of laying out the KDE desktop?
[03:46] <ksivaji> VSpike kde-look.org
[03:49] <rati> BluesKaj: how to block https sites
[03:51] <etalli> Where are the login screen settings?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> etalli, k-menu/system settings/splash screen
[03:54] <wers> vanilla kde is obviously faster than Kubuntu. I want to make my KDE desktop faster.. what can I do with my install?
[03:54] <etalli> Oh, I thought I had already looked there and that it was splash screen settings.  I'll check again.
[03:55] <hero> wers: my kubuntu is pretty fast
[03:55] <wers> I currently have Kubuntu installed but I want to try KDE core
[03:55] <etalli> BluesKaj: No, that is only the splash screen settings, I am looking for where to change the login window.
[03:55] <spawn57> wers, hit up google, there's a whole buncha tricks to make kubuntu faster
[03:56] <etalli> The one that has you type in your username and password
[03:56] <spawn57> etalli: ah, install kdmtheme and kde-kdm-themes packages
[03:56] <etalli> spawn57: What do they do?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> etalli, k-menu/system settings/advanced/login settings
[03:58] <wers> how about making my KDE install a vanilla KDE  instead of Kubuntu??
[03:58] <BluesKaj> err login manager
[03:58] <epimeth> !flash
[03:58] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:58] <etalli> BluesKaj:  No that just changes the colors and fonts, specifically, I installed Ubuntu, then sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop.  Now I want my ubuntu login screen back, and when I try to change it through gnome it gives me a *GDM is not running* error.
[03:58] <spawn57> wers: you basically are install vanilla kde, it's just got a few extra bits here and there
[03:59] <spawn57> you mean you're running gdm and not kdm?
[03:59] <VSpike> hmmm.. that's rather buggy
[04:00] <etalli> spawn57: no, I tried to change the login screen in Gnome, and it gives me an error about GDM, but how can gnome be up and not GDM?
[04:01] <spawn57> did you install kde after installing gnome?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> when you log in etalli , your default is kde , you have to choose gnome in the login menu
[04:01] <BluesKaj> in order to run gdm
[04:02] <spawn57> etalli: there's 3 login managers you can choose from, xdm, kdm, gdm...and only one can be used at a time.
[04:03] <VSpike> Can anyone else see if they can reproduce this? Right-click main kicker panel, do Add New Panel->External Taskbar
[04:03] <JokesterX> and how do you change to a different login manager?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> in the login menu
[04:04] <VSpike> Then right-click the new taskbar and select "remove"
[04:04] <spawn57> JokesterX: i'm not sure how you do it in kubuntu, but in the command line you can do dpkg-reconfigure xdm or kdm or gdm, and go through the menus, it'll let you choose which one you want
[04:04] <VSpike> Now Right-click the main panel again and go to "Configure Panel".  Under "Settings for:" does the external taskbar still appear?
[04:04] <VSpike> It does for me... and worse still, if I add another panel, it doesn't show up in that list and hence I can't configure it
[04:05] <wers> is the only reason why vanilla kde is faster than kubuntu is because it has less packages?
[04:06] <JokesterX> ya know that was odd i came in to ask about that and first thing i see is pertaining to my question
[04:07] <JokesterX> thanks spawn57
[04:07] <shoud> hi
[04:07] <JokesterX> c-ya
[04:07] <shoud> is there anybody that got mandvd ? getdeb seems to be down (for me)
[04:08] <VSpike> No one gonna test that for me?
[04:09] <spawn57> gimme a sec spike, lemme just pack my football bag haha
[04:10] <ryaren> Can u help me in nvtv?
[04:11] <VSpike> Bah.. this is completely broken
[04:11] <wers> why is that, in htop, I see more than one "amarokapp?"
[04:11] <nick_> can somenody link me to the channel where they can help me installing beryl
[04:11] <VSpike> Restarted kicker and lost the spurious entry in the config dialog.  Now added a new panel, but it won't appear in the config dialog
[04:12] <spawn57> sounds messed up =D
[04:12] <spawn57> try asking in #kde?
[04:12] <VSpike> Yeah think I will.. ta
[04:13] <shoud> can somebody try getdeb please ? need to know if the problem come from my coputer
[04:14] <spawn57> shoud: it loads fine..
[04:15] <spawn57> VSpike: the external taskbar worked fine for me
[04:15] <spawn57> added it and removed it and configured it too
[04:15] <VSpike> spawn57: what version of kde you running?
[04:15] <spawn57> 3.5.7
[04:15] <shoud> spawn > the site seems to be OK, but when i try to get one Deb > get an "array" error"
[04:15] <spawn57> no wait, 6
[04:15] <spawn57> 3.5.6
[04:16] <VSpike> 3.5.7 here
[04:16] <spawn57> VSpike: did you use an official repository?
[04:16] <VSpike> spawn57: yeah
[04:16] <spawn57> mandvd you say?
[04:17] <shoud> yes
[04:17] <ryaren> Somebody can help me to configure my NVTV?
[04:17] <spawn57> VSpike: are you sure, cos I use offical repositories and I did apt-get update today
[04:17] <VSpike> oic.. depends how official you mean :)
[04:18] <shoud> spawn57 > i'm gonna reboot my computer, maybe it'll fix it ( Windows style)
[04:18] <BluesKaj> multiverse-universe
[04:18] <spawn57> shoud: yeap, same error
[04:18] <shoud> ah okay
[04:18] <shoud> thank you :)
[04:18] <spawn57> BluesKaj: yeah I got those in my sources.list
[04:18] <spawn57> shoud: np
[04:19] <VSpike> spawn57: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[04:19] <BluesKaj> backports uncommented ?
[04:19] <shoud> have a nice day all :)
[04:19] <spawn57> "Mirrors may still be updating."
[04:19] <spawn57> i juse japan and hong kong
[04:20] <spawn57> BluesKaj: yeah I think I have backports uncommented? that makes a difference?
[04:26] <ryaren> so?
[04:26] <ryaren> Somebody can help me to configure my NVTV?
[04:27] <TrueFX> hi guys
[04:27] <TrueFX> i ve got a problem
[04:27] <TrueFX> i try to connect to internet but i cant
[04:27] <TrueFX> using my web browser i cant reach internet
[04:28] <VSpike> days like this where I think defecting to gnome is a good idea
[04:28] <BONETHUGS333> with wich programm should i open my downloads? ark?
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> TrueFX: yet you're here.
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> BONETHUGS333: whatever program is appropriate to the file format
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> so many windowsy questions, it makes me want to cry.
[04:30] <BONETHUGS333> lol sry its hard for me to use linux ive used windows my hole life
[04:30] <BluesKaj> we seldom see gnome probs in here , but don't let that fool you , i still prefer kde
[04:31] <BluesKaj> !filetypes
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filetypes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <BluesKaj> !files
[04:32] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> BONETHUGS333: but yeah, if it's an archive (zip, rar, etc) it's easier to just use ark...  if it's tar.gz or tar.bz2, i prefer the commandline
[04:32] <BluesKaj> BONETHUGS333, read above ^
[04:33] <BONETHUGS333> thank you very much i continue reading^^
[04:35] <VSpike> does apport not work with KDE apps?
[04:36] <varaonaid> hi, i'm trying to make a backup of a whole partition...not the one i'm currently in.  it's the / of kubuntu but i'm booted into another distro.  i'm following the guide on the forums but it's for backing up the current partition.  do i just use /dev/sda*?
[04:36] <varaonaid> do i need to add all the excludes to the command?
[04:38] <farzum> hello
[04:39] <twosouls82_> hi farzum
[04:39] <erikja> !tightvnc
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <farzum> t seems like if i have some problem
[04:40] <twosouls82_> !search vnc
[04:40] <ubotu> Found: screencast-#ubuntu-effects*, screencast, vnc, vncfix
[04:40] <farzum> i m connect here, but on Konqueror i can t go on any website
[04:40] <twosouls82_> farzum: just ask the question you have, someone might be able to help you
[04:40] <farzum> however i can ping google for exemple
[04:41] <farzum> it's crazy
[04:41] <twosouls82_> farzum "killall -q konqueror" and retry it
[04:42] <farzum> i can always not be connected
[04:43] <twosouls82_> farzum: sorry, what did you mean by that?
[04:43] <farzum> it didnt works
[04:44] <BluesKaj> farzum, make sure you have konqueror configured under settings to send browser identification ...mine wasn't checked by default for some reason
[04:44] <farzum> how?
[04:44] <twosouls82_> farzum:  if that BluesKaj's tip doesn't help; try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install konqueror
[04:45] <ninHer> hi all
[04:45] <twosouls82_> hi ninHer
[04:46] <BluesKaj> open konqueror /settings /configure / browser identification
[04:46] <farzum> i have also a roblem with my apt get :s
[04:46] <ninHer> hi twosouls82_
[04:47] <farzum> BluesKaj > and i must change whaat in?
[04:47] <BluesKaj> read above, farzum
[04:47] <twosouls82_> make sure it reports a user agent, I assume
[04:48] <farzum> ah yes it is checked :s
[04:48] <twosouls82_> farzum: then try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install konqueror
[04:49] <ryaren> hey guys!
[04:49] <Pete_> Somethings happened to my multimedia keys (they were working fine before), now the play/pause button raises the volume and "Media" now gives XF86WWW, what does ubuntu use for multimedia keys as default?
[04:49] <ryaren> Somedody can help me to configure it?
[04:49] <ryaren> !nvtv
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <farzum> twosouls82_> Could i open a convesation with you pliz
[04:50] <twosouls82_> farzum: you are allowed to :)
[04:50] <farzum> ah non sorry i must register myselfon the server
[04:51] <twosouls82_> farzum:  please do so, saves a lot of confusion
[04:51] <farzum> i can' reinstall them
[04:51] <farzum> La rinstallation de konqueror est impossible, il ne peut pas tre tlcharg.
[04:52] <farzum> in english "they cannot be reinstalled"
[04:52] <twosouls82_> farzum: although i can read French, others might not
[04:52] <twosouls82_> farzum: you don't have internet at all?
[04:53] <farzum> yes it have the translation under, i m not waked :'(
[04:53] <twosouls82_> :)
[04:53] <farzum> i am on this channel with konversation and i can ping
[04:53] <twosouls82_> farzum: wait a sec
[04:53] <Pete_> You can probably download the package manually then
[04:54] <andreas_> Hi all, i need help
[04:54] <farzum> for sure
[04:54] <twosouls82_> farzum: mv .kde/share/apps/konqueror .kde/share/apps/konqueror.bak && mv .kde/share/config/konquerorrc .kde/share/config/konquerorrc.bak
[04:54] <andreas_> I i have Ubuntu 7.04 and i just installed KDE on it (love KDE) but now the loading screen when i start the computer says Kubuntu in stead of Ubuntu....help
[04:54] <twosouls82_> this will backup the old config files of konqueror.. to see if the problem lies in there
[04:55] <farzum> it stil not workin
[04:56] <twosouls82_> farzum: have you configured proxy settings that might be causing this?
[04:56] <Pete_> ugh what is going on with my multimedia keys
[04:56] <pag> andreas_, it can be fixed with  sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[04:56] <andreas_> thanks, i'll try
[04:57] <twosouls82_> farzum: create a new user to see if the problem still exists
[04:57] <farzum> twosouls82_> i have only a gateway on my "box" , but on Ubuntu i meet any problem
[04:57] <pag> andreas_, if that won't work, you can simply reinstall usplash-theme-ubuntu -package. iirc it'll fix it
[04:58] <andreas_> It worked, i think. thanks (:
[04:58] <twosouls82_> farzum: you probably misconfigured your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:58] <twosouls82_> afaik
[04:59] <twosouls82_> farzum: what does "sudo ifconfig -a" give you?
[05:00] <farzum> wlan seems good
[05:01] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 on my notebook w/o mouse wheel. How can I set the 3rd mouse button to emulate one? I've seen this before: Clicking it and then moving the mouse scrolls page up/dn (at least in Konqueror) ...
[05:01] <twosouls82_> vlt: defaults to left+right=third
[05:01] <farzum> nice! in fact i have a problem with my souces.list now i can install firefox
[05:01] <twosouls82_> as for scrolling, no can do afaik
[05:02] <twosouls82_> farzum: everthing working; good connection?
[05:02] <twosouls82_> *minus spelling errors*
[05:03] <twosouls82_> if so, Google is your b*tch
[05:03] <BluesKaj> !source-omatic
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source-omatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <farzum> nice firefox work perfectly
[05:04] <Pete_> What on earth is going on with my multimedia keys..
[05:04] <farzum> thanks a lot
[05:04] <ryaren> Somebody can see her/his desktop on its TV
[05:04] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic
[05:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:05] <pag> BluesKaj, just a hint: !easysources is easier to remember than !source-o-matic
[05:05] <marco__> alguem tem problemas com o kde do ubuntu???? trava muito
[05:06] <pag> !es | marco__
[05:06] <ubotu> marco__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:07] <BluesKaj> pag,I prefer source-o-matic :) not a biggie , i eventually get there :)
[05:07] <pag> BluesKaj, ok :)
[05:07] <marco__> ok
[05:08] <astrobit> how can i manage the font size qt applications use?
[05:08] <twosouls82_> farzum: enjoy Linux
[05:11] <farzum> thanks!
[05:18] <teguh> my adept is crash so give me some advise
[05:19] <teguh> hi
[05:20] <pag> !fixadept | teguh
[05:20] <ubotu> teguh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:20] <BluesKaj> teguh, is actually crashed or is it locked ? What error do you get?
[05:23] <teguh> maybe locked so i could not download anymore
[05:23] <CrunchyFerrett> Greetings everyone.
[05:24] <CrunchyFerrett> I have both a large problem and a small problem.
[05:24] <CrunchyFerrett> The small problem is that I don't remember what my LARGE problem was.
[05:24] <CrunchyFerrett> Everclear is the devil.
[05:28] <farzum> really nice :'( now my resolution cannot be over 800*600
[05:29] <farzum> i have installed the nvidia driver
[05:39] <BluesKaj> genii, howdy, ...i was reading about how wonderful FreeBSD is supposed to be versus Linux ..purer closer to unix and all that ... what farkup when it come sto installing tho ...wouldn't install , full of errors...How wonderful is that ? :)
[05:39] <genii> BluesKaj Yeah I've been wrestling with it since version 4.4 or so
[05:40] <BluesKaj> ever get it to work , genii ?
[05:40] <genii> BluesKaj Yup, our old servers were based on 4.8 ... no gui etc tho
[05:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:41] <genii> BluesKaj The disk slices and disklabel scheme is annoying
[05:41] <BluesKaj> I havew a live cd with gnome as the default desktop ...wasn't too impressed
[05:42] <genii> BluesKaj: Last one I needed to deal with was ver 5.2, haven't seen since. Didn't know they have a livecd now :) It seems the fad
[05:42] <BluesKaj> yeah , i managed to get past that ok, ran into trouble with X ,.. wouldn't install dependencies for some apps..
[05:42] <BluesKaj> so i gave up
[05:43] <genii> BluesKaj: My old method used to be just install cli then download newest ports tarball, then make X from ports tree
[05:44] <BluesKaj> ok, sounds logical
[05:45] <BluesKaj> but , I think i'll stick with Kubuntu for a while before i try again...was trying a dual boot
[05:46] <genii> BluesKaj There is a good site called freebsddiary or similar, very helpful most days
[05:47] <pafnutiy> please, can anyone help! i want to set Jre on firefox. i created a link to plugin in firefox/plugins/ directory, but java doesn't work
[05:47] <Black_Monkey> hey, does anyone know if kubuntu would run these "bluetooth dongle" things?
[05:48] <Black_Monkey> pafnutiy: does it show up in about:plugins?
[05:49] <pafnutiy> no, it doesnt. but the link was created successfully! whats the matter?
[05:49] <teguh> he he he he he thank's a lot bro its working
[05:49] <Black_Monkey> pafnutiy: hmm, well I have a link to libjavaplugin.so in the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ folder, and it works fine...
[05:51] <pafnutiy> i understood why it didnt work)
[05:52] <pafnutiy> thanks
[05:52] <Black_Monkey> oh ok, cool
[05:52] <Black_Monkey> so yeah, anyone know about these bluetooth dongles? would I be able to just plug one in, and transfer files to my mobile?
[05:53] <llutz> Black_Monkey: file transfer should be easy with kbluetoothd
[05:53] <Black_Monkey> oh cool. and even these really cheap things should be alright on kubuntu?
[05:54] <llutz> Black_Monkey: i own a USD 3,- dongle, works fine ootb
[05:54] <srvzro> as long as your mobile isn't a blackberry, most of those phones have data disabled
[05:55] <Black_Monkey> ah, nice. I didn't think it would be so easy...
[05:57] <vlt> Hello. I'm connected to the internet via /dev/modem and kppp. I can do pings and ssh connections, I even can download using wget, but Konqueror refuses to connect. Any idea what to check?
[06:01] <teguh> how to lookup  "service" in ubuntu
[06:02] <vlt> teguh: What do you mean?
[06:03] <teguh> ehm i want see what service in my comp like task manager in windows
[06:04] <srvzro> open a konsole and type top
[06:04] <vlt> teguh: maybe something like `ps ax` or `top`?
[06:04] <llutz> teguh: ps -e, ksysguard
[06:04] <ccoffey_> htop is much nicer !
[06:05] <ccoffey_> i have a nooby question. is there xfs support in ubuntu (7.04/64) i don't see mkfs.xfs. and i don't see any reference to xfs (the FS) in apt
[06:05] <srvzro> htop? oh yeah its nice
[06:06] <ccoffey_> yakuake and htop are the first two things in install these days
[06:07] <llutz> ccoffey_: xfslibs-dev and xfsprogs are in the repos
[06:07] <teguh> he he he thank's
[06:07] <ccoffey_> ah, ok. must have missed them. are they running as modules then?
[06:07] <llutz> ccoffey_: and kernel-config says: CONFIG_XFS_FS=m
[06:08] <RivaeAerya>  I don't like Opera a lot. It wants to use it's own torrent client, and own email application. You can't even change that, you have to go with the Opera suite. I'd use Konqueror if it could handle the more AJAXy pages, like pageflakes.com, which it messes up. Why doesn't konqueror do this?
[06:08] <ccoffey_> llutz: nice, cheers
[06:09] <benkong2> hey all
[06:09] <benkong2> is there an irc channel for gusty kubuntu or can I ask questions here?
[06:11] <ccoffey_> is there a non supported kernel branch that can be supported through apt? i.e. does anyone manage a repo for 2.6.21. I know i could add a gutsy repo and install it from there under fiesty. is this the only way? I really should roll my own i suppose
[06:11] <CrunchyFerrett> dont ask to ask, just ask
[06:11] <teguh> what the most mysql admin used in linux
[06:12] <foobar> I'm trying to play some high res videos, and they play ok , but whenever I try to play fullscreen it doesn't play in right framerate
[06:14] <pag> benkong2, #ubuntu+1 is the main channel for Gutsy
[06:14] <benkong2> I keep getting an error about libcurl3-gnutls and libcurl4-gnutls conflicting what should I do?
[06:14] <benkong2> pag: ok thanks
[06:17] <RivaeAerya>  I don't like Opera a lot. It wants to use it's own torrent client, and own email application. You can't even change that, you have to go with the Opera suite. I'd use Konqueror if it could handle the more AJAXy pages, like pageflakes.com, which it messes up. Why doesn't konqueror do this?
[06:18] <benkong2> pa
[06:18] <ccoffey_> did you try changing the useragent string for konqueror to firefox or something to see if it makes any difference?
[06:19] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: no
[06:19] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: give it a go so :)
[06:20] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: i now tried
[06:20] <RivaeAerya> it doesn't help
[06:20] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: check it out yourself: http://www.pageflakes.com/
[06:20] <ccoffey_> ah well
[06:21] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: please try that site in konqueror, you'll see
[06:21] <ccoffey_> lokking at it now
[06:21] <RivaeAerya> ok
[06:21] <RivaeAerya> Meebo works, though
[06:22] <RivaeAerya> and netvibes, too
[06:22] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: seems the same as in firefox for me, what the issue you have?
[06:22] <hero> !rdf
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: i get the 'welcome to pageflakes' dialog, with a black background, i can't close the dialog, and if i log in, it still stays black and it does NOTHING
[06:23] <spawn57> I see teh dialog and everything
[06:23] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: I get the black background alright, but i can dismiss it, and then it acts the same as in firefox for me. 3.5.7 I'm running
[06:23] <spawn57> can't make a page though, after the 3rd setp I get an error
[06:23] <spawn57> anyway I'm off to bed
[06:23] <spawn57> later
[06:23] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: weird, i can't do that here
[06:23] <RivaeAerya> spawn57: alright bye
[06:24] <ccoffey_> odd alright
[06:24] <RivaeAerya> it says "There was a problem processing you request. Please retry your last action"
[06:24] <RivaeAerya> and it does that two times
[06:25] <RivaeAerya> and then it just jumps back to that dialog with the black background
[06:25] <pafnutiy> please help! if i have a package which is marked in dpkg as "half-installed" and i want to uninstall it, what i have to do?
[06:26] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: After the inital box, i don't seem to have any issues. i don't think i have anything fancy installed, so i'm not sure what your issue is. have youupgraded kde to 3.5.7?
[06:26] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: kde 3.5.6 here
[06:27] <RivaeAerya> how do i upgrade.. safely?
[06:27] <ccoffey_> try 3.5.7, it might solve the issue http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[06:27] <BluesKaj> pafnutiy, are you using adept or synaptic , and what is the package ?
[06:27] <ccoffey_> safe as houses to upgrade ;)
[06:27] <RivaeAerya> why isn't it in the official repos, ccoffey_?
[06:28] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: AFIAK, 3.5.6 was the stable when it was 7.04 was released, and that's frozen, 3.5.7 came out after, so technically they don't support it, but it is stable
[06:28] <llutz> RivaeAerya: it came out after feisty-freeze/release
[06:29] <RivaeAerya> llutz: so this means.. once a new kde comes out, it goes into that seperate repository? that's really good news to me, as i don't like the frozen state
[06:29] <ice9> is KDE 4 stable enought to use
[06:29] <RivaeAerya> ice9: no
[06:29] <ccoffey_> ice9: I wouldn't say so
[06:29] <Minataku> KDE4 is still in very early status
[06:29] <ice9> does it work though
[06:29] <Minataku> Sort of
[06:29] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: grab Amarok 1.4.6 while your at it, newer shinier icons
[06:30] <ice9> and its less resource heavy then kde 3.5
[06:30] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: in that repo too?
[06:30] <Minataku> ice9: That currently may just be a side effect of it's incomplete status
[06:30] <ice9> ahh ok
[06:30] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: it's in feisty-backports
 i use, but if i have already installed it other way, can i break this installation?
[06:30] <ice9> I'll just wait then
[06:30] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: no, i mean, that repo i just added.. will that make me have the newest kde, always?
[06:30] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: or how can i get that?
[06:31] <Minataku> ice9: Definitely what I would recommend
[06:31] <ice9> heard the beta is going to be out end of July is that true
[06:32] <deminemi> is there a driver writing channel on freenode ?
[06:32] <ccoffey_> ccoffey_: it's just the 3.5.7 repo. KDE isn't released that often, so check www.kubuntu.com every week or so for big items like that. to get bacports, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines you need. i'll check the exact ones now
[06:32] <Spork> hello all
[06:32] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: alright. so that means i have to constantly change the repo? well, that's alright to me. gives me a chance to choose if i want it
[06:33] <ccoffey_> KDE is only released every ~6 months or so really
[06:33] <BluesKaj> pafnutiy, what is the application?
[06:33] <RivaeAerya> ok
[06:33] <pafnutiy> BluesKaj: sun-java-jre and sun-java-bin
[06:34] <pafnutiy> BluesKaj: sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin
[06:34] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: Actaully, just go into adept manager, and Adept -> Manage repos -> Updates -> Unsupported updates. Enable anything else in their you like, it's all safe
[06:35] <BluesKaj> pafnutiy, check your adept or synaptic details ...when installing java you must answer yes to thier licence agreement in the adept/synaptic install terminal
[06:36] <pafnutiy> BluesKaj: ok
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Hello #kubuntu =)
[06:36] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: alright
[06:37] <fsssh> if i try to add a buddy (icq user) to my kopete contact list, i find his account, press "add" but neither gets added, nor gets an addrequest
[06:37] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: unsupported updates WON'T break my system?
[06:37] <fsssh> i use kopete
[06:37] <fsssh> anyone can help ?
[06:37] <fsssh> only 5% of the time RivaeAerya =D
[06:37] <K-Ryan> fsssh: You have to add in the program
[06:37] <RivaeAerya> fsssh: is that much?
[06:37] <RivaeAerya> i don't want an unstable computer
[06:37] <fsssh> only use them if its important RivaeAerya
[06:37] <K-Ryan> Right click a group, add contact to group, pick the account, type in the ICQ number
[06:37] <fsssh> then dont use them
[06:38] <fsssh> i try K-Ryan sec
[06:38] <RivaeAerya> fsssh: and pre-release updates?
[06:38] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: it's just they can't support what wasn't released with the OS. if you are running a life support machine or something, i wouldn't, but i've not encountered any problems with them
[06:38] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: alright
[06:38] <pafnutiy> BluesKaj: the point is that i've already installed it manually, if i will install it again, wouldnt it conflict?
[06:38] <fsssh> yes K-Ryan i'm not stupid. ive done that like 10 times but nothing happens =D
[06:38] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: although that repo doesn't contain the new KDE.. but it does contain the new Amarok
[06:39] <K-Ryan> fsssh: Well you didn't say you had done that
[06:39] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, there are no absolute guarantees , but most so called 'unsupported' sources are so named due to legal issues, but don't use Automatix , whatever you do :)
[06:39] <K-Ryan> And are you sure that the person is accepting the requests?
[06:39] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: alright :)
[06:39] <fsssh> "i find his account, press "add" :PP
[06:39] <K-Ryan> What do you mean, find his account?
[06:39] <BluesKaj> pafnutiy, no it will just tell you it's already installed , or install over the older version
[06:40] <fsssh> the shorter version of it :P
[06:40] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: so it's safe to use and makes me get new software, but NOT as unstable as gutsy?
[06:40] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: it's that, or wait till gutsy is out. obviously the ultimate choice is up to you, but you shouldn't have any real issues. Yes, KDE is is a seperate repo. I think previously amarko used to have it's own repo ?
[06:40] <hollandlucas> hey
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Howyd hollandlucas
[06:40] <K-Ryan> *Howdy
[06:40] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: nah, i don't want a frozen system
[06:40] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, relatively safe, yes :)
[06:40] <fsssh> well i did exactly what you said, i search for his number, i find him, i press "add" the window disappears, supposing that the program really added him now, but nothing happens !
[06:40] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: doesn't contain the things ubuntu+1 has?
[06:41] <K-Ryan> fsssh: What do you mean search for his number, no you don't do this on the website.
[06:41] <K-Ryan> You have to do this IN Kopete
[06:41] <fsssh> yes sure :D
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Right click a group IN Kopete
[06:41] <fsssh> there is a search function
[06:41] <hollandlucas> Does Kopete log conversations?
[06:41] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: doesn't contain the things ubuntu+1 has?
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Oh wow
[06:41] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, as far as gutsy is concerned , I'd wait
[06:41] <ccoffey_> RivaeAerya: it's not bleeding edge, just think of it of stable releases of items that came out after fiesty went gold
[06:41] <K-Ryan> I see what you mean about the search
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Never knew about that
[06:41] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: alright :)
[06:41] <K-Ryan> =)
[06:42] <K-Ryan> Can you add anyone else?
[06:42] <RivaeAerya> ccoffey_: the 'unsupported updates', right? i always though you had to take another distro than Ubuntu to get the latest and greatest. Anyways, you mean the 'unsupported' one, right?
[06:42] <K-Ryan> 438-929-615
[06:42] <K-Ryan> Try me
[06:43] <hollandlucas> The problem is that I have lost my ICQ contact list
[06:43] <K-Ryan> RivaeAerya: You get the latest and greatest _stable_ with Ubuntu
[06:43] <RivaeAerya> K-Ryan: Alright :) in Unsupported?
[06:43] <K-Ryan> With options to go for very latest and supposedly greatest
[06:43] <K-Ryan> Unsupported?
[06:43] <hollandlucas> and I need a particular contact right now, so the only way to find out his ICQ no is by taking a look at log files (if there are any)
[06:43] <RivaeAerya> yes, the 'Unsupported updates' repo
[06:44] <kharloss> hi there. i have a problem . after 6 month of smooth working, my ububtu server become verry verry slow when i connect using a ssh client  like putty , or  SFTP using gFTP. any ideeas  ? server is used as web server .
[06:44] <RivaeAerya> i want to make sure i haven't chosen the wrong one
[06:44] <pafnutiy> BluesKaj: i installed it second time) i hope it wont conflict. thank you very much for help
[06:44] <ccoffey_> K-Ryan: It's what ever adept calls backports, i think it has it labelled as unsupported updates
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Uh huh
[06:44] <RivaeAerya> last chance till i press the accept button
[06:44] <K-Ryan> I think that's stuff that's no longer continued
[06:45] <RivaeAerya> no, it gives me new amarok and stuff
[06:45] <K-Ryan> But they don't put unstable stuff in the repos anyway.
[06:45] <RivaeAerya> alright
[06:45] <RivaeAerya> none of them?
[06:45] <K-Ryan> I don't "think" so
[06:45] <teguh> what the most php development used by webmaster... please
[06:45] <BluesKaj> pafnutiy, yw
[06:45] <ccoffey_> nope, just unsupported
[06:45] <RivaeAerya> ok
[06:45] <RivaeAerya> dinner now, bye
[06:46] <ccoffey_> about that time for me, need to reboot anyway, changed kernel
[06:46] <BluesKaj> ccoffey_, he worrried about it freezing or blowing up in his face ...musta had some trauma with other distros :)
[06:46] <hollandlucas> so, does kopete log conversations by default?
[06:46] <K-Ryan> I don't believe so
[06:46] <hollandlucas> damn
[06:46] <BluesKaj> err he's worried
[06:47] <hollandlucas> is there another way to restore my ICQ contact list?
[06:47] <K-Ryan> Anyone in here not use KDE?
[06:47] <BluesKaj> hollandlucas, there's a log option in configure konverstaion
[06:47] <hollandlucas> I'm talking about Kopete
[06:47] <K-Ryan> hollandlucas: If you have it saved to a file somewhere, otherwise no
[06:48] <hollandlucas> I don't... damn
[06:48] <BluesKaj> who use ICQ anymore ...  :)
[06:48] <K-Ryan> You'd be suprised
[06:48] <hollandlucas> I hate ICQ
[06:48] <hollandlucas> I usually use Jabber
[06:48] <hollandlucas> but the majority of my friends use ICQ
[06:48] <hollandlucas> so I'm using a gateway to chat with them
[06:48] <K-Ryan> I have everything though because people always complain "Why don't you use this?"
[06:48] <K-Ryan> And they never get it so you always have to get what they have
[06:48] <hollandlucas> it's annoying
[06:48] <hollandlucas> why can
[06:49] <CrunchyFerrett> heh
[06:49] <hollandlucas> 't everybody use jabber?
[06:49] <K-Ryan> So I have AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo
[06:49] <varaonaid> hi, i'm thinking of installing *buntu and someone told me that it works better to add KDE to ubuntu than to install kubuntu.  what are your thoughts?
[06:49] <CrunchyFerrett> Ryan, have you heard my good news?
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Wireless working right?
[06:49] <hollandlucas> that's nonsense imho
[06:49] <CrunchyFerrett> OH YEAH BABY
[06:49] <K-Ryan> varaonald: Go for Kubuntu straight up
[06:49] <teguh> hi guys i need the name php ide
[06:49] <varaonaid> ok, i was wondering if that was better
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Yeah I thought I heard you say it CrunchyFerrett ;)
[06:50] <varaonaid> thanks for the advice
[06:50] <varaonaid> :)
[06:50] <K-Ryan> varaonald: I don't think either is better, it's just less of a hassle to go for Kubuntu.
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Rather than Ubuntu then get the Kubuntu stuff
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Well, the KDE stuff
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu stuff
[06:51] <DaSkreech> he can get KDE stuff if he wants
[06:51] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: Well it is the Kubuntu "stuff" but it's for the purpose of KDE
[06:51] <genii> teguh I'm pretty sure kdevelop can be used for php and not just C/C++ etc
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Anyways...
[06:52] <teguh> is kdevelop like macromedia
[06:53] <varaonaid> K-Ryan: thanks.  that makes a lot of sense and anything that minimizes hassle is good
[06:53] <K-Ryan> varaonald: You're welcome =)
[06:54] <twosouls82_> hi smylanakis :)
[06:54] <smylanakis> hello there
[06:54] <ubunturos> teguh: no. I don't think so
[06:54] <ubunturos> !kdevelop | teguh
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <smylanakis> is there anybody out there that knows a way to optimize a site .. SEO etc?
[06:55] <jhutchins_lt> !info kdevelop
[06:55] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 8594 kB, installed size 26204 kB
[06:55] <smylanakis> and what prizes ?? i am interested in for first page in google results..
[06:55] <smylanakis> if anybody just talk to me
[06:55] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: maybe someone in #apache?
[06:56] <smylanakis> thank you my friend
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Actually, google has pretty good advice on their webmasters pages.
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: The best thing to do to optimize a site is to have good content.
[06:57] <fyrmedic> i just took a hard-drive out of one laptop with breezy on it and installed it in another but it is failing on hardware stuff. how do I reconfigure everything so that it will load the rght drivers. I can load into recovery mode. Is there a dpkg-reconfigure command for that?
[07:00] <BluesKaj> fyrmedic, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Doesn't he maybe want dpkg-reconfigure -a?
[07:01] <BluesKaj> will that give him driver options , jhutchins?
[07:02] <fyrmedic> I'll try the dpkg-reconfigure -a. That will basically reconfigure everything right?
[07:02] <Darkrift> how do you execute a sh from konsole?
[07:02] <llutz> Darkrift: . file.sh
[07:03] <Darkrift> ahhhh
[07:04] <BluesKaj> I'll defer to jhutchins on this since , im not sure , fyrmedic...' sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a' might do it :)
[07:04] <fyrmedic> BluesKaj; I'll give it a try
[07:04] <Darkrift> whats a good way to mount a .uif file
[07:04] <fyrmedic> Doesn
[07:05] <fyrmedic> doesn't really matter I can always defer to a clean install off live cd with dapper if I need to.
[07:06] <teguh> what the name app for see ntfs partition
[07:06] <K-Ryan> !ntfs
[07:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:06] <K-Ryan> !ntfs-3g
[07:06] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:06] <K-Ryan> !fuse
[07:06] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:06] <K-Ryan> Take your choice
[07:06] <BluesKaj> !uif
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Darkrift: A whatnow?
[07:09] <zombielion> are the more plugins for avidemux other than the ones that come on install
[07:09] <Darkrift> .ui image file
[07:10] <Darkrift> im trying to mount it
[07:10] <Darkrift> .uif*
[07:10] <varaonaid> is kubuntu upgradeable from one version to the next or do you have to do a fresh install each time/
[07:10] <varaonaid> ?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Where did youget it from?
[07:10] <Darkrift> im using qemu to install xp
[07:10] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:10] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:10] <Darkrift> its an xp cd image
[07:10] <Darkrift> since my xp cd is a restore cd, i had to download it
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Well should have made an ISO image
[07:10] <K-Ryan> varaonald: Upgradable
[07:10] <DaSkreech> standards are so much nicer
[07:10] <Darkrift> yeah
[07:10] <Darkrift> tell that to the internet
[07:10] <Darkrift> lol
[07:10] <varaonaid> K-Ryan: thanks, i was hoping that it was :)
[07:10] <Darkrift> i had to find a warez copy
[07:11] <K-Ryan> Don't say that in here
[07:11] <Darkrift> i have my own key, but not a disk
[07:11] <Darkrift> why?
[07:11] <Darkrift> i have a key
[07:11] <Darkrift> so theres nothign illegal about it
[07:11] <K-Ryan> I don't know about the circumstances
[07:11] <K-Ryan> But warez isn't treated well
[07:11] <Darkrift> i actually have 3 legal keys for it
[07:11] <K-Ryan> In here anyway
[07:12] <Darkrift> ok, its not warez..... its a legal copy that i barrowed from soem warez ppl :)
[07:12] <K-Ryan> >.>
[07:12] <DaSkreech> !warez
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <Darkrift> anyways
[07:12] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: I was going to try it but I was pretty sure there wasn't an entry =P
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Should be
[07:13] <DaSkreech> With lots of FUD :)
[07:13] <K-Ryan> No doubt
[07:17] <Darkrift> anyone used a tool called iat (iso analyzer tool) ?
[07:17] <Darkrift> im trying to find a way to mount this image or convert it to iso
[07:19] <teguh> wao i just want copy my data from windows to my ubuntu....but how
[07:20] <K-Ryan> !samba
[07:20] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:20] <K-Ryan> Or is it on the same machine?
[07:20] <K-Ryan> Just mount it and copy
[07:22] <teguh> how to mount it......cause im blind linux
[07:22] <teguh> im totaly new
[07:22] <TeraDyne> !mount
[07:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:22] <TeraDyne> that's not the right one
[07:22] <K-Ryan> Okay, by default it should have been auto mounted
[07:22] <K-Ryan> So open up Konqueror
[07:22] <K-Ryan> Click "storage"
[07:22] <K-Ryan> It should be in there
[07:23] <K-Ryan> Listed as hd<drive letter><partition number>
[07:24] <K-Ryan> Is it in there?
[07:25] <teguh> ubotu -> and it show disabled
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[07:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:25] <K-Ryan> !ubotu
[07:25] <K-Ryan> Ugh, he's lagging again >.>
[07:25] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan broke the bot again. XD
[07:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:26] <K-Ryan> I swear it wasn't me!
[07:29] <judgen> anyone knows why kdetv crashes my xserver?
[07:29] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, uif are similar to ISO or img files AFAIK ...try acetoneiso or Kiso
[07:29] <Darkrift> acetioneiso didnt work
[07:29] <teguh> to many bot what bot
[07:29] <Darkrift> had to install magiciso (windows exe in crossover) and make it into an iso
[07:29] <liway> hi. i just removed the ubuntu-desktop from my laptop and will just use xubuntu. yipee! how i change the boot and shutdown splash images... i want kubuntu images...
[07:30] <BluesKaj> yeah Darkrift, that's been my experience too...the latest version of acetoneiso is crappy
[07:31] <BluesKaj> are you doing a "backdoor window " install ? :)
[07:31] <liway> ?
[07:31] <BluesKaj> err Darkrift , i mean
[07:32] <Darkrift> x crashed :(
[07:33] <maddy> Sysinfo for 'oberth': FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p3 running KDE 3.5.6, , HD: 1/7GB, , 112 proc's,
[07:33] <maddy> yay
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !partitions
[07:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:34] <moofoo> hello, is it safe to upgrade from kubuntu edgy (with kde 3.5.6) to feisty via the do-release-upgrade (after adding/updating the http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ repository)?!
[07:34] <DaSkreech> liway: Upgrade your kernel in KDE
[07:35] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:35] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:35] <RivaeAerya> pageflakes still doesn't work
[07:35] <RivaeAerya> in konqueror
[07:36] <moofoo> yes i've read this but the "do-release-upgrade" is recommended for server - will it work flawless for remote upgrading a kubuntu edgy client?
[07:36] <Darkrift> anyone here good with qemu?
[07:36] <Darkrift> i cant get it to boot from a bootable iso :(
[07:37] <Darkrift> damnit
[07:38] <K-Ryan> !qemu
[07:38] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Been there yet?
[07:38] <X2B> question: my global shortcuts (like alt+f2) only work if all windows are minimized. Any Help?
[07:38] <K-Ryan> I've never used it so I'm afraid I can't really help, but that should help a little bit.
[07:39] <K-Ryan> X2B: You're sure it's not just after clicking the desktop?
[07:40] <X2B> well just say that it is only working when there are no active windows...
[07:40] <X2B> Darkrift: Does it give some kind of error message?
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Hmm, that's strange.
[07:40] <X2B> I used to work with qemu... But it is pretty slow..
[07:41] <Darkrift> it cant boot from hd or cd
[07:41] <Darkrift> and ive tried mounting the iso and using the mount point, still cant see it
[07:41] <moofoo> hm well no risk no fun - let's see what do-release-upgrade will destroy ;-)
[07:41] <X2B> Are you launching it from konsole??
[07:41] <Darkrift> yes
[07:41] <Darkrift> used kqemu to make a shell script
[07:42] <X2B> well, it should give you some kind of error message if it doesnt work. Wither on the screen or stdout
[07:42] <Darkrift> well, it likes to crash x, is that usefull?
[07:42] <Darkrift> lol
[07:42] <Darkrift> twice now its locked up x
[07:43] <Darkrift> and ive had to restart
[07:43] <X2B> hmmm. Could you just pastebin that script??
[07:43] <Darkrift> downloading vmplayer now :(
[07:43] <Darkrift> yeah
[07:44] <Darkrift> nohup /usr/bin/qemu     -m 256 -smp 1   -net none        -boot d  -hda '/media/sda1/qemu/xp.img'       &
[07:44] <Darkrift> oh
[07:44] <Darkrift> i see the prob
[07:44] <Darkrift> the path for the cd isnt even in there
[07:44] <Darkrift> its /media/sda1/qemu/xp.isp
[07:45] <Darkrift> you know what the & is for?
[07:46] <llutz> Darkrift: send commend-execution to background
[07:46] <llutz> command
[07:46] <Darkrift> ok
[07:46] <Darkrift> so before the & i can add more args?
[07:47] <grul> yes
[07:47] <Darkrift> nohup /usr/bin/qemu     -m 256 -smp 1   -net none        -boot d  -hda '/media/sda1/qemu/xp.img'  -cda '/media/sda1/qemu/XpSp2.iso'      &
[07:47] <Darkrift> that look better?
[07:48] <Bokanov> I am getting this error on the install of an application "
[07:48] <Bokanov> The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old.  Make sure it
[07:48] <Bokanov> is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full
[07:48] <Bokanov> path to pkg-config.
[07:48] <Darkrift> scary
[07:48] <Darkrift> no error this time
[07:48] <Darkrift> but no crash
[07:48] <Darkrift> and nothing else seems to be happening
[07:49] <X2B> Darkrift: How much mb of mem do you have inside your pc?
[07:49] <Darkrift> 1g X2B
[07:49] <llutz> Bokanov: install pkg-config
[07:49] <X2B> and you are emulating an smp system??
[07:49] <Bokanov> I did that, at least I think I did... I just downloaded it and ran ./ configure
[07:50] <Darkrift> single cpu xp system used only for trying to sync my pda
[07:50] <Darkrift> lol
[07:50] <Tm_T> Darkrift: I recommend vmware for that
[07:50] <Darkrift> ack
[07:50] <Darkrift> i was gonna use qemu to isntall it
[07:51] <Darkrift> so i could use vmplayer to run it
[07:51] <Tm_T> you don't have vmware server?
[07:51] <Tm_T> IIRC it's free
[07:51] <X2B> well, the question is that since qemu is emulating hardware I don't know if it would be possible to use eg USB after all
[07:52] <Darkrift> hrmmmmm
[07:52] <Darkrift> i had it installed
[07:52] <Darkrift> but someone said i needed workstation :(
[07:52] <Darkrift> so i removed itlast night
[07:52] <Tm_T> eh
[07:52] <Tm_T> nice
[07:53] <Darkrift> so server will work?
[07:53] <Darkrift> i couldnt figure out how to use it
[07:53] <Tm_T> !vmware
[07:53] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:53] <Darkrift> oooooooh
[07:53] <Darkrift> nice
[07:53] <Darkrift> ty
[07:54] <RivaeAerya> somebody call out my name, i want to test something
[07:54] <X2B> RivaeAerya
[07:54] <RivaeAerya> thanks. it worked
[07:55] <X2B> no prob
[07:55] <K-Ryan> You set it up to ding?
[07:55] <RivaeAerya> kinda. i set it up to show a notification
[07:55] <K-Ryan> RivaeAerya
[07:55] <K-Ryan> RivaeAerya
[07:55] <K-Ryan> RivaeAerya
[07:55] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:55] <moofoo> You have to download a total of 1821M. whee poor servers ;-P
[07:55] <RivaeAerya> do it again, please
[07:55] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[07:55] <K-Ryan> o.O
[07:55] <K-Ryan> RivaeAerya
[07:55] <K-Ryan> =D
[07:55] <RivaeAerya> thanks :)
[07:56] <K-Ryan> My pleasure
[07:58] <K-Ryan> !dash
[07:58] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to  #! /bin/bash 
[07:58] <K-Ryan> What's the difference between Bash and Dash?
[07:58] <K-Ryan> s/ash/ASH
[07:59] <dhq> i have a kubuntu DVD i need to get pacages from it how do i do it i cant download help me out
[07:59] <K-Ryan> It needs to be listed in your sources.list
[07:59] <moofoo> K-ryan: dash should be posix compliant bash not
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Posix?
[07:59] <dhq> K-Ryan, how do i do it
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Don't know, I just know it needs to be in there, sorry
[07:59] <TeraDyne> !repo
[07:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:00] <moofoo> k-ryan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posix
[08:00] <dhq> can anyone help me
[08:00] <K-Ryan> dhq: The chat is a little quiet right now, but if you stick around long enough someone will help out.
[08:00] <dhq> oh ok
[08:00] <K-Ryan> Well I'm out for now guys, good luck with everything and I'll catch you guys later.
[08:01] <K-Ryan> Thanks for the link moofoo ;)
[08:01] <TeraDyne> dhq: Are you trying to add the DVD as a package repository?
[08:01] <dhq> TeraDyne, how do i do it
[08:02] <TheCreationist> dhq: You need to open up your /etc/apt/sources.list file and make sure the DVD is listed there.
[08:02] <dhq> TheCreationist, how and wat
[08:03] <TeraDyne> dhq: put "sudo nano /etc/apt/souces.list" in a Konsole window and pastebin the results
[08:03] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[08:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:03] <dhq> TeraDyne, i am on a fresh install
[08:03] <TeraDyne> dhq: ok. hold on a sec
[08:05] <TeraDyne> press Alt and F2, and put this in the line "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list". Then see if the DVD is listed at the top.
[08:06] <Darkrift> !vmware
[08:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:06] <TeraDyne> dhq: press Alt and F2, and put this in the line "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list". Then see if the DVD is listed at the top.
[08:07] <pyrotix> HOW DO I STOP KONQUEROR AND KATE FROM OPENING BINARY FILES I'M TRYING TO DOWNLOAD. ugghggh. It is exceedingly annoying.
[08:08] <dhq> TeraDyne, its not
[08:08] <TeraDyne> dhq: ok. open Konsole and put in "sudo apt-cdrom add" and follow what it says.
[08:09] <Darkrift> ok, i installed vmware player, but the instructions on that link are for gnome and i cant find the shortcut
[08:09] <Darkrift> anyone know how else to run it?
[08:10] <dhq> TeraDyne, Using CD-ROM mount point /cdrom/
[08:11] <dhq> Unmounting CD-ROM Waiting for disc...Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter Mounting CD-ROM... E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[08:11] <dhq> TeraDyne, the dvd is in
[08:11] <TeraDyne> dhq: ok, let me take a look at the man page. Give me a sec.
[08:11] <dhq> TeraDyne, ok
[08:16] <TeraDyne> dhq: put this into the konsole window "cat /etc/fstab" and look for a chunk that says "media/cdrom" or something similar. What does that chunk read as?
[08:17] <dhq> TeraDyne, /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:18] <TeraDyne> dhq: which cd drive is the dvd in, the first or second?
[08:18] <Darkrift> (vmplayer:27791): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)
[08:18] <Darkrift> i tried apt-getting libgcc_s.so.1 and GCC_4.2.0 with no luck
[08:18] <Darkrift> what else could i try?
[08:19] <dhq> 2nd
[08:19] <dhq> TeraDyne, 2nd
[08:20] <TeraDyne> ok then, the command to add the dvd should be "sudo apt-cdrom -d=/media/cdrom1 add"
[08:21] <kaic> how do i use cmd mount?
[08:22] <TeraDyne> kaic: you could always look at the man pages for mount. Use "man mount" in a konsole window.
[08:24] <TeraDyne> A good tip I learned early on is: "If you don't know what a command line command does or how to use it, always look at the man pages."
[08:24] <TeraDyne> dhq: is it working?
[08:24] <dhq> TeraDyne, nope
[08:24] <TeraDyne> Same error?
[08:25] <dhq> TeraDyne, the dvd is a /dev/sr0
[08:25] <kaic> TeraDyne: tkz
[08:25] <TeraDyne> it's at /dev/sr0? then replace the "/media/cdrom1" part with "/dev/sr0".
[08:26] <BluesKaj> pyrotix, what download manager are you using ?
[08:26] <Darkrift> anyone?
[08:26] <dhq> TeraDyne, do i need the reopos on a dvd or the fiesty 7.04 dvd has them
[08:27] <TeraDyne> dhq: you mean the universe\multiverse repositories?
[08:27] <kaic> how do i log root?
[08:27] <TeraDyne> !sudo | kaic
[08:27] <ubotu> kaic: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:27] <dhq> TeraDyne, i have the dvd
[08:27] <dhq> TeraDyne, the live cd/dvd
[08:28] <TeraDyne> dhq: ok, but what do you mean "do I need the repos on a dvd" ?
[08:28] <dhq> TeraDyne, are the repos present on the live dvd
[08:28] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, there's always ,"ahem" VMWare workstation
[08:29] <Darkrift> i know
[08:29] <Darkrift> i got vmplayer installed
[08:29] <pyrotix> BluesKaj: trying to download a source from sourceforge
[08:29] <Darkrift> but im missing some libs
[08:29] <Darkrift> trying to figure out how to get them (semi n00b still)
[08:29] <TeraDyne> The only repos on the dvd are the basic dvd package repos. If you're wanting more than what the DVD comes with, you'll have to make sure they're enabled in the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file.
[08:30] <TeraDyne> !repos | dhq
[08:30] <ubotu> dhq: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:30] <pyrotix> BluesKaj: found an eventual direct link, but constantly having binaries trying to open in kate or konqueror annoys me
[08:30] <BluesKaj> konq browser, pyrotix ?
[08:30] <pyrotix> BluesKaj: ya
[08:30] <dhq> TeraDyne, are there any present on the live dvd
[08:30] <Darkrift> /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6) <---- what i need, any idea how to get it (or them :S)
[08:31] <Darkrift> actally, seems i might need gcc 4.2
[08:31] <langdon> hi folks
[08:33] <BluesKaj> use FireFox , pyrotix set the download manager dir to /home/yourname
[08:33] <TeraDyne> Just what's in the "/etc/apt/sources.list". The DVD has the main and restricted repos enabled by default, I beleive. The only packages that are avalible on the disk are the basic, older packages that come with the DVD.
[08:33] <TeraDyne> that was directed towards dhq
[08:33] <dhq> TeraDyne, will it have audio drivers
[08:33] <BluesKaj> you can do the same in konqueror , pyrotix
[08:34] <TeraDyne> dhq, depends on which ones you need. It might, and it might not.
[08:34] <pyrotix> kk
[08:34] <dhq> TeraDyne, i need to play mp3 and videos
[08:34] <arekanderu> Hia guys. i kinda need help :S
[08:34] <TeraDyne> !codecs | dhq
[08:34] <ubotu> dhq: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:35] <TeraDyne> The liveCD\DVD doesn't come with the needed packages, though.
[08:35] <arekanderu> Im trying to install a game called tibia, but i have no idea how to...
[08:35] <TeraDyne> !find tibia
[08:35] <ubotu> Package/file tibia does not exist in feisty
[08:35] <arekanderu> But how the hel do u install it properly ?
[08:36] <arekanderu> Downloaded it from their homepage
[08:36] <Darkrift> anyone able to help me install gcc 4.2?
[08:36] <arekanderu> got a command to install it, but i only get error message :S
[08:36] <arekanderu> an*
[08:37] <TeraDyne> what is the error message? if it's long, pastebin it.
[08:37] <Darkrift> it seems like its got tons of packages and i dont know how to install the dep's seperately
[08:37] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[08:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:38] <AcE13> I have attached my usb drive... but it doesnt shows up in lusb. And ofcourse its not automounting
[08:39] <arekanderu> im sending this command : tar xfz tibia-8.0-6.tgz
[08:39] <AcE13> using kubuntu fiesty but running xfce
[08:39] <Darkrift> -xzvf
[08:39] <TeraDyne> Darkrift: beat me to it
[08:39] <Darkrift> heh
[08:39] <Darkrift> almost
[08:39] <TeraDyne> I go off to check my email, and that happens...
[08:40] <Darkrift> heh
[08:40] <Darkrift> i gotta take the easy ones
[08:40] <AcE13> j/k
[08:40] <arekanderu> posted the error message on pastebin
[08:41] <Darkrift> if it doesnt show up in lusb, id think it wasnt working, but i know nuffin :S
[08:41] <arekanderu> Well, -xzvf didnt work either xD
[08:41] <AcE13> Darkrift: sometimes it works... sometimes doesnt
[08:41] <Darkrift> now paste your link here arekanderu
[08:42] <arekanderu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28674/
[08:42] <Darkrift> ouch
[08:42] <arekanderu> ok, i feel like a total noob xD
[08:42] <TeraDyne> Darkrift: It's E(x)tract, filter through G(z)ip, (v)erbose, and (f)ile. Tha't what-xzvf is
[08:42] <Darkrift> nice
[08:42] <TeraDyne> man pages rock
[08:42] <arekanderu> ok, ill translate it :P
[08:43] <Darkrift> TeraDyne,  is there a way to install gcc 4.2 with apt if its not in the list?
[08:43] <TeraDyne> And if you want to read them from something like Kate, just use "man <command> | tee -a <outputfile>"
[08:43] <Darkrift> i want it to install all the dependancies too
[08:44] <arekanderu> ... can't translater it properly
[08:44] <arekanderu> translate*
[08:44] <TeraDyne> Darkrift: I don't think so. I can't even find it with ubotu
[08:44] <TeraDyne> arekanderu: what language is it?
[08:44] <arekanderu> swedish'
[08:45] <TeraDyne> Ok... anyone know what the swedish channel or trigger for the swedish channel is?
[08:45] <Darkrift> damnit
[08:45] <arekanderu> acording to the faq on the webpage i need to do this: use this command: tar xfz tibia-8.0-6.tgz
[08:45] <Darkrift> why didnt vmware install its own dependancies
[08:45] <CrunchyFerrett> !sw
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <llutz> !SE
[08:45] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:45] <CrunchyFerrett> score
[08:46] <TeraDyne> That should be "tar-xfz tibia-8.0.6.tgz"
[08:46] <TeraDyne> What's the link to their website?
[08:47] <llutz> TeraDyne: / arekanderu  tar xzf tibia-8.0.6.tgz
[08:47] <arekanderu> k, ill try that llutz
[08:48] <llutz> arekanderu: f has to be followed by the filename
[08:48] <Darkrift> TeraDyne,  am i right in assuming i will have to install all of these packages (ftp://mirrors.laffeycomputer.com/pub/gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/releases/gcc-4.2.0/) (and probably compile them first)
[08:48] <TeraDyne> ah, didn't see that in the man pages. Nice catch.
[08:48] <arekanderu> ok, could some1 take me into a private room and explain? xD
[08:49] <llutz> TeraDyne: viewing man-pages in KDE: konqueror -> man://<command>
[08:49] <Darkrift> arekanderu,
[08:49] <Darkrift> make the f the last arguement
[08:49] <TeraDyne> Darkrift: No idea. I have little experience in stuff like that.
[08:49] <Darkrift> so f is next to the filename
[08:49] <Darkrift> tar -xxxf filename
[08:49] <Darkrift> so in your case tar -xzf tibia-8.0.6.tgz
[08:50] <TeraDyne> llutz: no, I just overlooked it. I know how to read the man pages. Besides, I can read it better in Konsole, or one of the virtual terminals.
[08:52] <zorglu_> q. when browsing with firefox, and looking at a page with flash, is that possible to stop them ? all those flash stuff eat my cpu pretty bad and make the whole browser quite slow
[08:52] <TeraDyne> zorglu_: look up the adblock extention.
[08:53] <zorglu_> TeraDyne: and this extension makes it possible to stop flash advertisment from moving ?
[08:53] <root> hi guys
[08:53] <TeraDyne> zorglu_: it can block them from even showing up.
[08:53] <bosnianboy> i have problem with compiz fusion
[08:53] <TeraDyne> zorglu_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
[08:53] <zorglu_> TeraDyne: ok so unable to just stop them :(  thanks i will look
[08:54] <TeraDyne> !compiz | bosnianboy
[08:54] <ubotu> bosnianboy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:54] <bosnianboy> it reports that there is no texture_from_pixmap
[08:54] <bosnianboy> but glxinfo |grep texture_from_pixmap gives this
[08:54] <TeraDyne> bosnianboy: you'll have better luck asking in #ubuntu-effects . They'll know more about it.
[08:54] <bosnianboy> GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
[08:55] <bosnianboy> ok
[08:55] <bosnianboy> tnx
[08:57] <The_Machine> i'm trying to share a folder called "Share" to test samba.  Still, when i go to \\computerip\ from another (windows) box, i don't even get prompted for credentials.
[08:57] <The_Machine> Little help getting samba/share working? :)
[09:00] <_snakey_> hi all
[09:01] <TeraDyne> hi
[09:01] <RivaeAerya> does anybody know a good note-taking application?
[09:01] <TeraDyne> RivaeAerya: Tomboy, KNotes...
[09:01] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: knotes and Basket Notepads
[09:01] <_snakey_> anyone knows an german ubuntu-irc-channel ?
[09:02] <TeraDyne> !de
[09:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:02] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: basket notepads has been discontinued, so i'm afraid i can't use that one. and it's REALLY buggy
[09:02] <vzduch> anyone know a good Shoutcast-compatible streaming program for Linux?
[09:02] <TeraDyne> I like KNotes. It integrates with Kontack.
[09:02] <twosouls82> to bad, it had potention
[09:02] <TeraDyne> Kontact*
[09:02] <RivaeAerya> i'm trying to use it right now but all the groups and stuff are far too confusing, all things end up where i don't want them to be
[09:03] <TeraDyne> vzduch: icecast?
[09:03] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: take a look at Knotes, which is simple a post it app
[09:03] <TeraDyne> RivaeAerya: The one Ubuntu  comes with is Tomboy
[09:03] <vzduch> TeraDyne: I have worked w/ IceS2 to connect to an Icecast server.. but is it Shoutcast-compatible?
[09:03] <RivaeAerya> TeraDyne: alright
[09:04] <TeraDyne> vzduch: no idea. It's been too long since I played around with it.
[09:04] <waylandbill_> Icecast is shoutcast compatible.
[09:04] <TeraDyne> vzduch: I used to toy with it using dyne:bolic
[09:05] <TeraDyne> waylandbill: thank you
[09:05] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: where did you read that it is discontinued? It is not on their website, if I am correct
[09:05] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: look at the bottom
[09:05] <TeraDyne> waylandbill_: thank you*
[09:05] <waylandbill> n/p
[09:06] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: 'merci' =)
[09:06] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: np
[09:08] <arekanderu> ok guys, how do i install video drivers for my geforce mx440 card?
[09:08] <TeraDyne> !nvidia
[09:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: i like knotes :)
[09:09] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: good, I am switching to it while we speak =)
[09:09] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: alright
[09:12] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: can i import and export from knotes?
[09:13] <waylandbill> I didn't understand Basket when I tried it. A subdirectory is usually enough organization. Maybe I needed to play with it more to understand it.
[09:13] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya:  I can't find that feature either
[09:14] <twosouls82> *grrr*
[09:14] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: i'm doing it manually right now
[09:14] <RivaeAerya> didn't have that much notes
[09:14] <RodSteel> what file sharing client is everyone using with kubuntu?
[09:14] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: answer is no, you should indeed do it manually
[09:14] <dale> some one please help!
[09:14] <dale> I have broken a pin on a new processor
[09:15] <dale> Will it still work?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[09:15] <TeraDyne> dale: no
[09:15] <dale> event if just one on the edge?
[09:15] <RodSteel> ooo.. dale that's not good
[09:15] <dale> its an amd x2 3600
[09:15] <dale> 5600*
[09:15] <dale> sorry
[09:15] <TeraDyne> dale: any broken pins on processor will essentially destory it
[09:15] <twosouls82> dale: expensive mistake man
[09:16] <RodSteel> live and learn
[09:16] <dale> man
[09:16] <RodSteel> how did you break it anyhow?
[09:16] <RivaeAerya> Too bad there isn't a way to organise my notes
[09:16] <dale> a couple just got bend
[09:16] <twosouls82> did you step on it oslt?
[09:16] <RivaeAerya> by now i've gone with this format:
[09:16] <dale> and i tryed to fix it
[09:16] <dale> how can i find out what the porpose of that pin was?
[09:17] <RivaeAerya> Dot action code
[09:17] <RivaeAerya> 	Dot Action 2
[09:17] <RivaeAerya> 	966-735
[09:17] <jhutchins_lt> dale: You won't damage anything if you try it, but it's unlikely to work.  Those pins cost money to manufacture, they don't put 'em on unless they're needed.
[09:17] <RivaeAerya> Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle 4 codes
[09:17] <RivaeAerya> 	R4Y043
[09:17] <twosouls82> dale: no harm to try it; but I doubt it will work... unless there is a god
[09:17] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: too bad knotes doesn't give me space to read
[09:17] <dale> couldnt i put a thin piece of copper the the sock hole where it has broken off?
[09:18] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: that's one of the reasons why I used Basket over KNotes
[09:18] <TeraDyne> dale: that would probably fry the board...
[09:19] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: luckily i can resize 'em :)
[09:19] <ActionParsnip_> can ayone help with firefox? It connects but wont recieve data
[09:19] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: but you can't define a default size etc :)
[09:20] <ActionParsnip_> I'm sat waiting for www.google.com
[09:20] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: true, but that's no problem. now i just need to know how i can show particular notes
[09:20] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: let me show you how i'm using it
[09:20] <jhutchins_lt> dale: Yeah, poor contact is worse than no contact.
[09:20] <TeraDyne> !away > maria_
[09:20] <jhutchins_lt> dale: If you're a soldering wizard with the right rig, you could put a new pin on, but that ain't the way to bet.
[09:20] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: show all :) no show 'note' -> you can however use the Find function provided, but that one isn't easy accessible
[09:21] <dale> I still have a couple of bent pin whats the best was to straighten them?
[09:21] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: i'm going to have many notes, do i have to crowd my desktop?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip_> dale: I'd use tweezers and a LOT of patience
[09:21] <ActionParsnip_> dale: go VERY slowly
[09:22] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: I found how to export/save your notes :)
[09:22] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: tell me! :D
[09:23] <jerry> hi
[09:23] <twosouls82> no import function though
[09:23] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: right click an existing note and see ;)
[09:23] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: you can even add reminders, send them etc
[09:23] <RivaeAerya> YES! knotes lets me select what notes i want to show!
[09:24] <RivaeAerya> i just had to reload knotes
[09:24] <twosouls82> ^5 RivaeAerya
[09:25] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: check it out --> http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2078/notitieee1.png
[09:27] <pietro> hallo allemaal
[09:27] <stinerc85> i cannot get the beryl manager to open
[09:27] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: leuke muziek man/nice music man
[09:27] <TrueFX> hi guys
[09:27] <jerry> I got a problem
[09:27] <TrueFX> i ve got a problem
[09:27] <stinerc85> can you guys help
[09:27] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: haha dank je
[09:27] <TrueFX> mee to
[09:27] <TrueFX> how cna i totally open iptables
[09:27] <jerry> I'm trying to burn a img file using Burn CD Image - K3b
[09:27] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: maar zo kan je het dus organiseren :)
[09:27] <TrueFX> it does not let me connect anywhere
[09:27] <TrueFX> even i cant run any application?
[09:27] <jerry> and it says Seems not to be a usable image
[09:28] <ActionParsnip_> jerry: do you have a cue file to go with it?
[09:28] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: I allways use last.fm's tags for it :) 'getit' is for what I need to get
[09:28] <jerry> no
[09:28] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: what do you mean?
[09:29] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: what part didn't you understand? =)
[09:29] <twosouls82> don't know last.fm?
[09:29] <jerry> The diskboot.img file is a VFAT filesystem image that can be written to a
[09:29] <jerry> USB pendrive or other bootable media larger than a floppy.
[09:29] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: yes, i know last.fm, but what are you using it for? "i always use last.fm's tags for it" and the 'getit' thing?
[09:29] <jerry> I don't see that
[09:30] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: I organize my wishlist (which I assume you showed me using imageshack), using last.fm
[09:30] <ActionParsnip_> jerry: do some looking into .cue files to go with your file. Theres a weird syntax for it, its essentially a text file
[09:30] <twosouls82> RivaeAerya: pm in dutch?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip_> jerry: I thought K3b wouldnt need it but it may help
[09:31] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: ah
[09:31] <ActionParsnip_> Everybody it there any way to stop that annoying bluetooth noise when it detects an adapter
[09:31] <ActionParsnip_> Its really annoying me
[09:31] <RivaeAerya> twosouls82: yeah, that's the list of artists i like, using it i can see what i have and what i haven't. so i guess you could call it a wishlist, yeah
[09:33] <jhutchins_lt> ActionParsnip_: kcontrol system sounds.
[09:34] <llutz> arekanderu: did it work?
[09:35] <arekanderu> yup, but i need opengl xD
[09:35] <arekanderu> sudo aptitude install opengl
[09:35] <arekanderu> ?
[09:37] <arekanderu> !opengl
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <arekanderu> !OpenGL
[09:37] <Bokanov> I'm having a problem with the razertools installer.  It needs libusb "Package libusb was not found in the pkg-config search path." which I have just installed.  The error persists.
[09:37] <TrueFX> how to reset all ipfilter rules
[09:37] <twosouls82> !search gl
[09:37] <ubotu> Found: working_link-#ubuntu-effects, beryl, soc, google, lsb, ati-#ubuntu-effects, extra desktop-#ubuntu-effects, sources.list-#ubuntu-effects, backspace-error-#ubuntu-effects, xgl
[09:37] <TrueFX> i want to get rid of it
[09:38] <TrueFX> ubout how can i get rid of that nuasance?
[09:39] <hero> TrueFX: at the command prompt, you can type iptables -h
[09:39] <hero> you should be able to figure it out from there
[09:39] <ActionParsnip_> jhutchins_lt: cheers man, that was getting really annoying
[09:40] <arekanderu> How do u install opengl?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip_> arekanderu: what are you trying to achieve?
[09:40] <arekanderu> I need opengl for a game
[09:41] <ActionParsnip_> arekanderu: do you have your graphics card drivers installed correctly?
[09:41] <Bokanov>  I'm having a problem with the razertools installer.  It needs libusb "Package libusb was not found in the pkg-config search path." which I have just installed.  The error persists.
[09:41] <grul> does anyone know how to install more modules for python in ubuntu?
[09:41] <grul> if there is a specific way
[09:41] <kofrad> look in synaptic
[09:41] <kofrad> im pretty sure there is a category for python packages
[09:42] <arekanderu> yeah i think so
[09:42] <grul> what's synaptic? :p sorry
[09:42] <kofrad> its a package management program for ubuntu
[09:43] <Timsen> hi, i created a new partition with cfdisk, but if I now try to make an fs on the partion it says:Could not stat /dev/sda11 --- No such file or directory
[09:44] <Darkrift> 11 partitions?
[09:44] <fssssssssssh> does anyone know howto change the color of the windowbar at the bottom ? (not the size)
[09:44] <Darkrift> or am i reading too much into that
[09:44] <Timsen> there is no device sda11 until now, but after a boot it is created, can somebody tell me the command so that I did not have to reboot
[09:44] <Darkrift> window bar?
[09:44] <CAPS_LOCK> why is kde so bloated?
[09:44] <Darkrift> you mean the panel?
[09:44] <kofrad> because its a whole desktop environment
[09:45] <kofrad> and kubuntu installs everything for kde
[09:45] <pvandewyngaerde> kde is not bloated, its feature rich
[09:45] <CAPS_LOCK> same thing I suppose
[09:45] <CAPS_LOCK> ok maybe not
[09:46] <pvandewyngaerde> gnome tries to simplify everything because they think users are stupid
[09:46] <CAPS_LOCK> aren't they?
[09:46] <grul> do I need to install synaptic?
[09:46] <kofrad> gnome has a nice feel to it, i still like kde better though
[09:46] <CAPS_LOCK> ok maybe not
[09:46] <twosouls82> pvandewyngaerde: please don't start a flame
[09:46] <pvandewyngaerde> grul: there is adept
[09:47] <Tm_T> CAPS_LOCK: show me real numbers how KDE is bloated
[09:47] <CAPS_LOCK> but then again, isn't that what the linux philosophy is
[09:47] <CAPS_LOCK> simple
[09:47] <CAPS_LOCK> one program, one task
[09:47] <pvandewyngaerde> open free
[09:47] <pvandewyngaerde> choice
[09:48] <Tm_T> CAPS_LOCK: that's UNIX philosophy
[09:48] <Tm_T> go use UNIX if that's what you like
[09:48] <CAPS_LOCK> ok, I'm wrong, shoot me
[09:48] <CAPS_LOCK> :)
[09:48] <nimble> Why does the kubuntu live cd have different packages to the installed one?
[09:48] <Tm_T> nimble: do they have?
[09:48] <nimble> By default i mean.
[09:49] <Darkrift> q: to install gcc4.2 do i need ALL of these packs? ftp://mirrors.laffeycomputer.com/pub/gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/releases/gcc-4.2.0/
[09:49] <Tm_T> nimble: because, when you install it, it moves the system from live to your mass media
[09:49] <nimble> Yeah, installed doesnt have qtparted or synaptic.
[09:49] <CAPS_LOCK> I use gnome because I don't like c++
[09:49] <Tm_T> nimble: and live has synaptic? :o
[09:49] <Tm_T> CAPS_LOCK: that makes no sense
[09:49] <CAPS_LOCK> but I'm not a programmer, I just don't like the ++, it makes the c look ugly
[09:49] <nimble> I think so.
[09:50] <Tm_T> nimble: interesting, well, I don't know
[09:50] <massimo> ++'o
[09:50] <TeraDyne> O_o;
[09:50] <CAPS_LOCK> :)
[09:50] <jhutchins_lt> CAPS_LOCK: Ok, totally arbitrary trolling.  That's just dumb.  It all compiles to machine code anyway.
[09:50] <arekanderu> Darkdrift, oculd u help me? I need to install opengl, how do i do it?
[09:50] <Darkrift> heh arekanderu  you ever hear of the blind leading the blind?
[09:50] <kofrad> virtualbox is very nice
[09:50] <nimble> It kinda bugs me because my usb hard drives don't really work completely right in installed kubuntu but they work perfectly in the live cd.
[09:50] <Darkrift> i got lucky last time....... i wouldnt be much help this time
[09:51] <CAPS_LOCK> yeah, but I stick with programs that only is written with a c, everytime I see the ++, I unistnall or avoid it
[09:51] <jhutchins_lt> I'm gonna give it a shot here...
[09:51] <jhutchins_lt> !opengl
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <jhutchins_lt> Nope.
[09:51] <arekanderu> Haha, so u have no idea drakdrift? xD
[09:51] <K-Ryan> !ati
[09:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:51] <jhutchins_lt> !find opengl
[09:51] <Darkrift> nope
[09:51] <moofoo> actually i agree with caps_lock - i dislike gnome because i dislike gobject and C for GUI stuff ;-)
[09:51] <Bokanov> how do I set an environmental variable?
[09:51] <ubotu> Found: cl-sdl-opengl, libghc6-opengl-dev, libopengl-perl, libopengl-ruby, libtiff-opengl (and 2 others)
[09:51] <BluesKaj> !opengl-info
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl-info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Tm_T> arekanderu: what you mean by "install opengl" ?
[09:52] <arekanderu> Tm_T: i've installed the drivers for my card, but the game im trying to run complains about opengl (it says i dont got it)'
[09:52] <Tm_T> arekanderu: err, what game?
[09:52] <arekanderu> Tibia xD
[09:52] <Darkrift> can you do tar -xzvf *.bz2 and have it extract each archive?
[09:52] <Tm_T> arekanderu: and, you sure you have those drivers enabled and in use?
[09:53] <TeraDyne> blind leading the blind... If only the man who coined the phrase knew my mother, then he'd have stayed quiet...
[09:53] <arekanderu> Tm_T: i think so, but how do i chech it?
[09:53] <arekanderu> check*
[09:53] <BluesKaj> arekanderu, http://pyopengl.sourceforge.net/
[09:53] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: er?
[09:53] <kaic> how can i use mount to create a partition ntfs? what's the cmd line?
[09:54] <pwilson> Is there a way to restore my jubuntu installation to first install state?
[09:54] <kaic> not to create... to mount
[09:54] <Tm_T> kaic: mount manual explains it well
[09:54] <Darkrift> mount doesnt create partitions kaic
[09:54] <Darkrift> oh
[09:54] <arekanderu> BluesKaj: You sure?
[09:54] <Tm_T> arekanderu: "glxinfo | grep direct" in konsole
[09:54] <BluesKaj> oops
[09:54] <TeraDyne> !ntfs | kaic
[09:54] <ubotu> kaic: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:54] <llutz> !ntfs-3g| kaic
[09:54] <ubotu> kaic: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:54] <kaic> ty u both
[09:55] <arekanderu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:55] <arekanderu> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:55] <Tm_T> arekanderu: so not
[09:55] <arekanderu> o.O
[09:55] <pwilson> I belive I've fark this install in several ways, is there a way to restore to a first install state?
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Reinstall
[09:55] <TeraDyne> pwilson: reinstall. Simple, yet effective
[09:55] <Bokanov> Anyone know what is wrong with libusb : "
[09:55] <Bokanov> Package libusb was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[09:55] <Bokanov> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libusb.pc'
[09:55] <Bokanov> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[09:55] <Bokanov> No package 'libusb' found
[09:55] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[09:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:56] <Bokanov> ahh thanks
[09:56] <pwilson> lol, I was hopeing not to, I suppose I will, thanks.
[09:57] <pwilson> Next q. I've got an Radion M22, in a Thinkpad t43, I've gotten open gl to work, but beryl crashes still.
[09:57] <nord> hello!
[09:58] <nord>  !!
[09:58] <arekanderu> How do i make my 3d drivers work? I got a geforce mx 440 card
[09:58] <posingaspopular> whats the command to kill amarok in terminal? "kill amarok" didn't work
[09:58] <moofoo> !nvidia
[09:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <nord> sudo rm -rf / )))
[09:59] <pwilson> type xkill in the terminal, then click the offending window with the skull.
[09:59] <TeraDyne> someone kick nord just for that.
[09:59] <moofoo> posingaspopular: try killall amarokapp
[09:59] <K-Ryan> sudo rm -rf / ))) ?
[09:59] <K-Ryan> What's that?
[09:59] <KomiaPoika> hi
[09:59] <nord>     )))    !!!
[09:59] <KomiaPoika> K-Ryan: don't do it
[09:59] <K-Ryan> Duuhhhhh
[09:59] <Tm_T> nord: stop
[09:59] <K-Ryan> What is it?
[09:59] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: that forces everything to be deleted
[09:59] <BluesKaj> !ru | nord
[09:59] <ubotu> nord:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:59] <K-Ryan> !ops
[10:00] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[10:00] <Tm_T> K-Ryan: I'm here
[10:00] <K-Ryan> =)
[10:00] <TeraDyne> and i mean deleated
[10:00] <KomiaPoika> so my q is
[10:00] <KomiaPoika> how can i list installed packages?
[10:00] <Tm_T> !fi | KomiaPoika
[10:00] <ubotu> KomiaPoika: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[10:00] <KomiaPoika> mita prkl
[10:00] <TeraDyne> ?
[10:00] <KomiaPoika> voi
[10:00] <pwilson> So, when beryl crashes, this is the output, anyone have an idea?
[10:00] <pwilson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28698/
[10:00] <nixternal> K-Ryan: any explanation to the use of !ops?
[10:01] <Tm_T> nixternal: nothing, move along
[10:01] <K-Ryan> I thought it was someone pulling a prank typing that in
[10:01] <K-Ryan> The sudo rm thing
[10:01] <TeraDyne> it was taken care of
[10:01] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, pahapoika :)
[10:01] <K-Ryan> Mmmk, no harm done
[10:01] <KomiaPoika> how do i list installed packages?
[10:02] <K-Ryan> Go into Adept and uncheck "Not installed"
[10:02] <KomiaPoika> K-Ryan: from bash shell, that is
[10:02] <moofoo> ..and is there a way to list all third party packages installed (so not from official repos)?
[10:02] <K-Ryan> Dunno
[10:02] <posingaspopular> moofoo: thanks! that worked
[10:02] <pwilson> Regarding beryl crashing, here is my xorg.conf - anyone see any problems? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28700/
[10:02] <arekanderu>               Ok guys, i really need help with this, i got a geforce mx 440 card, and i've installed sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy, and it dont seem to have installed anything
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> moofoo: i'm trying to figure ot the same
[10:03] <Tm_T> KomiaPoika: wait a second
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> arekanderu: did you put "nvidia" in xorg.conf?
[10:03] <pwilson> arekanderu Is this an HP dv series laptop?
[10:03] <twosouls82> arekanderu: dpkg -L nvidia-glx-legacy (it is installed probably)
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> arekanderu:     Driver      "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[10:04] <KomiaPoika> instead of "nv"
[10:04] <Tm_T> KomiaPoika: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[10:04] <pwilson> No one have any ideas on my beryl issue?
[10:04] <Tm_T> but I'm gone now ->
[10:04] <KomiaPoika> Tm_T: whats the deinstall part for??
[10:05] <Tm_T> KomiaPoika: not show deinstall (so show only install)
[10:05] <arekanderu> KomiaPoika: xorg.conf?!
[10:05] <Tm_T> now for real ->>
[10:05] <llutz> KomiaPoika: or: dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[10:05] <BluesKaj> arekanderu, check system settings/monitor&display/hardware..see if the driver is installed there
[10:05] <K-Ryan> How can I make my PC speaker beep?
[10:06] <KomiaPoika> arekanderu: the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:08] <arekanderu> how do i get sudo acces in normal mode?
[10:08] <K-Ryan> what do you mean normal mode?
[10:08] <Bokanov> Package libusb was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[10:08] <Bokanov> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libusb.pc'
[10:08] <Bokanov> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[10:08] <Bokanov> No package 'libusb' found
[10:08] <arekanderu> so that i dont need to open it with cmd
[10:08] <K-Ryan> You can't
[10:08] <K-Ryan> Unless you make a shortcut
[10:09] <rhkfin> Anyone know why laptop volume buttons work on Kubuntu LiveCD but not on a installed system?
[10:10] <see-g> rhkfin: uhm ... must be your specific hardware, the volume buttons work for me
[10:10] <fdoving> rhkfin: tried kmenu -> system settings -> regional & language -> keyboard layout -> select Keyboard model ?`
[10:11] <dale> Is it ok to pop a processor in for a sec to see if it works with out having to waste heat compund stuff?
[10:11] <arekanderu> K-ryan, what do u mean shortcut?
[10:12] <arekanderu> What can a shortcut do? xD
[10:12] <K-Ryan> shortcut to application
[10:12] <K-Ryan> add sudo in the command line thing
[10:12] <BluesKaj> dale, this is not the room to ask such a question
[10:12] <rhkfin> see-g: I've had the same for 2 different laptops
[10:12] <Darkrift> how do i extract .bz2 ?
[10:13] <dale> urhhhh... look man i just snapped a pin of an $300 chip.
[10:13] <flake>  I'm going to be away for a week with a windoze laptop - I would like to be able to browse my home kubuntu machine remotely using the windoze laptop, what do I need to set up for that?
[10:13] <Darkrift> no dale
[10:13] <Darkrift> it is very not ok
[10:13] <BluesKaj> Dark 'tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2'
[10:13] <Darkrift> because without thermal grease and a heatsink, that cpu can fry in 2 seconds
[10:13] <flake> and be able to browse root so I can go into my other harddrives in /media/..
[10:13] <Darkrift> and dont think your faster then the clock
[10:14] <Darkrift> ty BluesKaj
[10:15] <arekanderu> K-ryan, you aint making no sense man xD
[10:15] <K-Ryan> "Link to application"
[10:15] <BluesKaj> flake, try Krdc
[10:16] <K-Ryan> I think you can do that
[10:16] <K-Ryan> Otherwise you need a shell script I guess
[10:16] <flake> thanks
[10:16] <rhkfin> fdoving: No, I mean the specific volume buttons on the laptop: work on live cd, not on installed
[10:16] <BluesKaj> flake, accessing a windows machine is easier from linux than the reverse in my experience.
[10:16] <fdoving> rhkfin: did you check out the place i told you about? if you select your keyboard model they tend to start working correctly.
[10:17] <Darkrift> anyone know if gcc has a way of updating itself?
[10:17] <twosouls82> flake: I use samba bi-directional for it
[10:17] <flake> yes, but can't take two puters
[10:17] <llutz> flake: use ssh
[10:17] <fdoving> Darkrift: updating itself like, upgrade versions?
[10:17] <Darkrift> yes
[10:18] <Darkrift> i need 4.2.0  for vmplayer to run
[10:18] <fdoving> Darkrift: no, use the distro package system.
[10:18] <Darkrift> and the install looks difficicult
[10:18] <Darkrift> cant
[10:18] <Darkrift> latest version there is 4.1.0
[10:18] <BluesKaj> does samba work over the internet twosouls82 ..i thought it was just for a homenetwork loop
[10:18] <Darkrift> im compiling 4.2.0, but it looks liek it needs lots of other crap
[10:18] <Karti> K-Ryan: are you trying to make a shortcut?
[10:18] <grul> how? irssi lastlog case sensitive?
[10:19] <K-Ryan> I'm not, arekanderu wants to be able to run a program as root.
[10:19] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: I must have missed the 'away from home' part =)
[10:19] <K-Ryan> Without using the terminal I think
[10:19] <Darkrift> kdesu programname
[10:19] <Darkrift> thats the gui version of sudo
[10:19] <rhkfin> fdoving: Indeed, I found mt laptop keyboard layout there.. Do you know if I need to restart X for the settings to start working?
[10:19] <waylandbill_> samba port could be forwarded through a router, but talk about a security hole.
[10:20] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: thanks for the reminder
[10:20] <Karti> but he would still need to enter his password
[10:20] <Darkrift> yes
[10:20] <Darkrift> but not in the console
[10:20] <flake> ty
[10:20] <twosouls82> flake: don't listen to me, I am tired
[10:21] <Karti> there is a way that you can set it up with a catalogue file I believe - in the same way that your fstab mounts external files but never tried that
[10:23] <fdoving> rhkfin: np need to restart or anything. no.
[10:23] <rhkfin> fdoving: ok..
[10:26] <YazzY> howdy
[10:26] <YazzY> any idea why editing /etc/network/interfaces and adding there an alias interface does not bring it up on boot?
[10:27] <marcus__> hello how do i make home and trash and stuff appear on my desktop please?
[10:27] <leo_rockw> hello everyone, i wonder if someone can help me with a bcm43xx_microcodes.fw error when trying to load my kubuntu live cd
[10:27] <rhkfin> fdoving: no effect..I found the keyboard for other laptop but not for the other.. And no change for the one I found the keyboard for
[10:28] <kaic> "Enable the universe repository". what does it mean?
[10:28] <fdoving> !universe | kaic
[10:28] <ubotu> kaic: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:29] <kaic> fdoving: how do i enable it?
[10:29] <waylandbill_> leo_rockw: there's instructions on the wiki and the forums for installing the bcm43xx firmware.
[10:29] <etalli> What is the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[10:29] <fdoving> kaic: you will find links to that info on the page ubotu told you about. wiht screenshots and things to guide you though the process.
[10:29] <fdoving> etalli: aptitude is slightly smarter.
[10:29] <kaic> fdoving: found it. ty
[10:30] <etalli> fdoving: how so?
[10:30] <marcus__> hello how do i make home and trash and stuff appear on my desktop please?
[10:31] <fdoving> etalli: dependency resolving, etc, it proposes solutions in a smarter way. it also have a curses interface which is nice.
[10:31] <waylandbill_> aptitude tracks auto installed packages and removes them when no longer needed.
[10:31] <leo_rockw> thank you waylandbill_ ... but is there a way to load the live cd? i don't want to install my kubuntu yet... i tried disabling the wireless adapter but that didn't seem to work
[10:31] <fdoving> waylandbill_: recent apt-get can do that too. but yeah. :)
[10:31] <waylandbill_> leo_rockw: the error doesn't matter. the wireless just wont work without the firmware.
[10:32] <etalli> fdoving: If aptitude is smarter, why does everyone say to use apt-get?
[10:32] <fdoving> rhkfin: this might help you: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[10:32] <waylandbill_> etalli: habit?
[10:32] <etalli> :)
[10:32] <Darkrift> marcus__, for home, you can just make a shortcut to ~/
[10:32] <Darkrift> it will give itself the home icon
[10:32] <rhkfin> fdoving: Thanks!
[10:32] <fdoving> etalli: they might be more familiar with apt-get. i don't know, i use both.
[10:32] <Darkrift> for trash, i think its a folder too, but forget where
[10:32] <moofoo> any hint how i can find the sources (origin) of all installed packages (to find third party packages)?
[10:32] <etalli> waylandbill_: I am new-ish to linux, so I am forming habits now.
[10:33] <waylandbill_> I use apt-cache for vague searches and aptitude for everything else.
[10:33] <fdoving> waylandbill_: yeah, apt-cache is searching faster than aptitude.
[10:33] <leo_rockw> waylandbill_: when i try loading the live cd it freezes right after the wireless error.
[10:33] <etalli> Darkrift: Isn't it ~/.trash
[10:33] <Darkrift> no idea etalli
[10:33] <Darkrift> might be
[10:33] <etalli> Darkrift: or is that in Mac OS?
[10:33] <leo_rockw> waylandbill_,: i don't mind not having wireless right now, i just want to try the livecd out
[10:34] <Darkrift> <---- windows user and recent linux switchee
[10:34] <waylandbill_> leo_rockw: could be something besides the wireless that just isn't writing to the screen.
[10:34] <Darkrift> damn
[10:34] <Darkrift> seems gcc is gonnna be a 1-2 hour long compile :(
[10:34] <etalli> Darkrift: Nope, I was wrong.  That is for Mac OS X
[10:35] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 on my notebook w/o mouse wheel. How can I set the 3rd mouse button to emulate one? I've seen this before: Clicking it and then moving the mouse scrolls page up/dn (at least in Konqueror) ...
[10:36] <waylandbill_> ~/.local/share/Trash
[10:36] <leo_rockw> waylandbill_,: mmhh... when i tried to manually start x i got a "(EE) vesa (0) : no matching mode" error
[10:36] <hero> how does kde use the .directory files it puts everywhere?
[10:37] <leo_rockw> waylandbill_,: could that be the real problem?
[10:37] <Darkrift> ok, can anyone tell me if i need all these packages to install gcc 4.2 ftp://mirrors.laffeycomputer.com/pub/gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/releases/gcc-4.2.0/ or just the mian one
[10:37] <waylandbill_> leo_rockw: that's not good. not sure if it is the root of the problem.
[10:38] <Darkrift> hero the .desktop files are like shortcuts i believe, but not sure about .directory
[10:38] <hero> k
[10:38] <leo_rockw> waylandbill_,: well, at least i don't have to worry about the wireless card being the problem... i'll see if i can work on that vesa thing. thx for your help!  i may be back later
[10:39] <etalli> hero: I don't even have .directory files strewn about.
[10:39] <hero> etalli: they're hidden files
[10:39] <jhutchins_lt> hero: They're not just kde-specific, they contain things like if there's a special icon for that directory, etc.  Look at one with a text-editor.
[10:40] <etalli> hero: I am "ls -a"ing!  Anything that starts with a . is hidded
[10:40] <etalli> s/hidded/hidden/
[10:40] <jhutchins_lt> hero: I _think_ they're only created if you set a special property for the directory.
[10:41] <hero> alright
[10:42] <Schuenemann> !midi
[10:42] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:43] <Schuenemann> ubotu, ty
[10:43] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:45] <fdoving> jhutchins_lt: correct, it's a konqueror setting in KDE. more info at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/69168
[10:46] <etalli> How does one quit out of a private message in irssi?
[10:46] <fdoving> etalli: /query
[10:46] <jhutchins_lt> etalli: /window close
[10:47] <moofoo> or even shorter /q ;)
[10:47] <etalli> Thanks
[10:47] <Schuenemann>  /q doesn't work
[10:47] <moofoo> here it does
[10:47] <fdoving> you can make it work, /alias q query
[10:47] <Schuenemann> because you (or your client) created an alias
[10:47] <etalli> fdoving: /query works just fine
[10:47] <moofoo> strange i did not set it up
[10:47] <vlt> vlt: konqueror->settings->web behaviour -> *unselect* "middle click opens URL in selection"
[10:48] <Schuenemann> fdoving, I believe that's client-specific
[10:48] <fdoving> Schuenemann: the question was irssi specific.
[10:48] <etalli> moofoo: What irc client are you using>
[10:48] <Schuenemann> fdoving, no, the alias command you told me
[10:48] <moofoo> etalli: konversation and irssi
[10:49] <fdoving> Schuenemann: yes, i still had irssi in mind.
[10:49] <etalli> moofoo: at the same time??
[10:49] <moofoo> etalli: no ;-)
[10:50] <Schuenemann> moofoo, how do you create an alias within konversation?
[10:50] <etalli> moofoo: I asked the queston in the present tense, so an answer like the one you gave me meant "I am using konversation and irssi [right now] 
[10:50] <etalli> :)
[10:51] <awi> hi
[10:51] <etalli> Hi awi
[10:51] <etalli> !hi | awi
[10:51] <ubotu> awi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:51] <awi> i,ve just turn to kubuntu
[10:51] <moofoo> Schuenemann: you can define aliases in the configuration
[10:52] <moofoo> Schuenemann: behavior -> command aliases
[10:52] <Darkrift> damnit
[10:52] <Darkrift> does ANYONE here know how i could install GCC 4.2 on kubuntu?
[10:52] <Schuenemann> moofoo, give me an example, please
[10:52] <Darkrift> ive been trying to get vmware working for almost 8 hours now
[10:52] <Darkrift> and i keep running into dead ends
[10:53] <Schuenemann> Darkrift, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:53] <jhutchins_lt> !info gcc4.2
[10:53] <ubotu> Package gcc4.2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:53] <jhutchins_lt> !info gcc
[10:53] <Darkrift> 4.1 is latest in apt
[10:53] <Schuenemann> or essentials
[10:53] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:53] <Darkrift> i have 4.2 source, but keep getting errors
[10:53] <waylandbill_> Darkrift: what's wrong with 4.1?
[10:53] <Darkrift> vmplayer needs 4.2
[10:53] <Darkrift> i pasted error, nobody know what to do
[10:53] <Schuenemann> Darkrift, which errors?
[10:54] <Darkrift> (vmplayer:21356): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)
[10:54] <Darkrift> and a few others
[10:54] <moofoo> Schuenemann: hm what do you want to achieve?
[10:54] <rhkfin> Is there a WPA-capable wlan-manager for Kubuntu Dapper?
[10:54] <Schuenemann> moofoo, the query one, for example
[10:55] <awi> i can't use my printer on my fresh kubuntu
[10:55] <Schuenemann> Darkrift, but that's not the gcc error, it's the vmplayer one, right?
[10:55] <Darkrift> yes
[10:55] <Darkrift> the gcc error was after over an hour of compiling
[10:55] <Schuenemann> ugh...
[10:55] <Schuenemann> what was it?
[10:56] <arekanderu> name "Arekanderu"
[10:56] <Darkrift> make[3] : *** [java/parse-scan.o]  Error 1
[10:56] <arekanderu> nick "Arekanderu"
[10:56] <Darkrift> thats oen of them
[10:56] <arekanderu> How do I change my nick? :P
[10:56] <Darkrift> make[2] : *** [all-stage2-gcc]  Error 2
[10:56] <etalli> arekanderu: /nick Arekandery
[10:56] <arekanderu> Ty Etalli :)
[10:56] <etalli> u
[10:56] <etalli> np
[10:56] <moofoo> Schuenemann: you could probably define q as /pae
[10:56] <moofoo> sorry /part
[10:57] <Schuenemann> Darkrift, that is the error? not very descriptive...
[10:57] <Darkrift> i know :s
[10:57] <Schuenemann> moofoo, doesn't part leave the channel?
[10:57] <Darkrift> and after an hour of compiling, i dont even wanna try again
[10:57] <Darkrift> wish there was a package :@
[10:57] <Schuenemann> yeah. I miss some packages too
[10:57] <Schuenemann> I hate compiling from source
[10:57] <moofoo> Schuenemann: yes or close a query.. hmm well you are right that does something different ;-)
[10:57] <waylandbill_> Darkrift: no binary package available for the program you're compiling?
[10:57] <jhutchins_lt> Darkrift:  Maybe there isn't a package because it doesn't compile.
[10:58] <Schuenemann> Darkrift, have you tried #gcc?
[10:58] <moofoo> use irssi for advanced scripting stuff ;-)
[10:58] <Darkrift> there is a rpm i think
[10:58] <Schuenemann> moofoo, is irssi like mirc?
[10:58] <moofoo> or ask in
[10:58] <etalli> moofoo: what's this about cool scripting in irssi?
[10:58] <moofoo> .. #konversation
[10:58] <moofoo> Schuenemann: no irssi is console based
[10:58] <Schuenemann> ugh
[10:58] <etalli> moofoo: cause I want in!
[10:58] <moofoo> etalli: you can use perl to write own commands/scripts..
[10:58] <waylandbill_> Darkrift: you could use alien to make a deb. Just be warned that the rpm may look to put things in odd places.
[10:59] <waylandbill_> !rpm
[10:59] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:59] <moofoo> etalli: look at http://www.irssi.org/scripts/
[10:59] <moofoo> and learn by example ;)
[10:59] <etalli> moofoo: Oh.  Perl :(  I don't know that one, but I'll check out the link
[10:59] <waylandbill_> etalli: perl isn't learned in one session. :-)
[11:00] <Darkrift> actually, i dont even see rpm
[11:00] <Darkrift> http://gcc.gnu.org/install/binaries.html
[11:00] <awi> does anyone know where can i get "canonmp160.ppd"?
[11:00] <llutz> awi: ask canon
[11:00] <GuyFromHell> Can somoene help me get the Kubuntu Gutsy Tribe2 cd running on my computer. I think it has something to do with my vid card so if someone could shed some light: I put in the cd. it goes through everything and then just dies. Without quiet/splash it goes on until it tried loading kdm then attempts to load cupsd and becomes completely unresponsive beyond sysrq's
[11:01] <moofoo> hehe perl is for winning obfuscated perl contests ;-)
[11:01] <waylandbill_> Darkrift: I thought it was vmplayer that you wanted a binary package for.
[11:01] <Darkrift> i got vmplayer installed
[11:01] <Darkrift> it wont run without the gcc 4.2.0 libs
[11:01] <Darkrift> so i tried installing gcc 4.2
[11:01] <Darkrift> and that has problems too
[11:02] <llutz> moofoo: 1st step: perl -e "fork while fork" &
[11:03] <waylandbill_> Darkrift: did you try an earlier version of vmplayer that doesn't require those libs? Where'd you get the vmplayer btw?
[11:03] <llutz> awi http://ecomoney.eu/puppy/misc/canonmp160.ppd
[11:04] <etalli> GuyFromHell: Gutsy, is that the beta?
[11:04] <GuyFromHell> etalli: aye, 7.10
[11:05] <awi> thanks a lot llutz
[11:05] <GuyFromHell> etalli: is that beyond the scope of the chan?
[11:05] <moofoo> llutz: second step: perl -e 'sub b{my($w,$x,$v)=@_;while(($y=$w*$w)+($z=$x*$x)<4&&(++$v<9)){$x=2*$w*$x+$_[1] ;$w=$y-$z+$_[0] ;}return$v+0;}foreach(0..3119){print"\033[4".b(($_%78-40)/20,(int($_/78)-19)/10)."m ".(($_%78^77)?"":"\033\n");}'
[11:05] <moofoo> (not harmful but nice)
[11:05] <llutz> awi: 10 seconds google :)
[11:05] <waylandbill_> !gutsy
[11:05] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <etalli> GuyFromHell: Where is the page on it, I want to read about it.  As for the channel, I have no idea.  Some people might know about it
[11:05] <kaic> i've installed the NTFS Configuration Tool but it seems not to be working... help?
[11:06] <etalli> GuyFromHell: Wait, right there ^ #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <GuyFromHell> aye, thanks waylandbill_
[11:07] <arekanderu> Can somebody help me please?
[11:07] <waylandbill_> !ask
[11:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:07] <Arekanderu> Can somebody help me?
[11:08] <waylandbill> not if we don't know what you need help with
[11:08] <Arekanderu> Sorry >.<
[11:08] <Arekanderu> I have installed the graphic driver for Kubuntu now
[11:08] <Arekanderu> But when I try to start a game called Tibia, it says that I don't have OpenGL
[11:08] <Arekanderu> And I don't know how to get / install OpenGL
[11:09] <Arekanderu> And I can only have 800*600 resolution ;/
[11:09] <Arekanderu> Could somebody help me?
[11:09] <Arekanderu> !OpenGL
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <waylandbill> Arekanderu: what video card do you have?
[11:10] <Arekanderu> I have a Geforce MX 400
[11:10] <Arekanderu> MX 440*
[11:10] <kamui> how do I change the jdk/jre im using?  right now i appear to be using gij even though I downloaded sun java 5
[11:10] <brendan__> hi, i'm trying to play a wav file from the default openoffice gallery, but no sound plays
[11:10] <waylandbill> you installed a binary driver for the nvidia card?
[11:11] <brendan__> i get the error "** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wav"
[11:11] <Arekanderu> Yes I think so
[11:11] <Arekanderu> I did install it before
[11:11] <Arekanderu> But I don't really know if it's working properly
[11:11] <waylandbill> in konsole do:  glxinfo | grep direct
[11:12] <Schuenemann> kamui, how did you install?
[11:12] <Latty> A question: In KOrganiser why can only I be the organiser of an event?
[11:12] <Arekanderu> Okey
[11:12] <Bokanov> anyone know why "Package libusb was not found in the pkg-config search path." ?
[11:12] <kamui> apt-get install sun-java..whatever
[11:12] <Schuenemann> kamui, what does java -version say?
[11:12] <Arekanderu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:12] <Arekanderu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:12] <Arekanderu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:12] <Arekanderu> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[11:12] <kamui> gij java 1.4.2 ubuntu
[11:12] <Arekanderu> That's what it says
[11:12] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | Arekanderu
[11:12] <ubotu> Arekanderu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <Schuenemann> kamui, that's weird
[11:13] <Schuenemann> kamui, you can use sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:13] <Arekanderu> waylandbill, what should I do next?
[11:13] <Arekanderu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28712/
[11:13] <kamui> Schuenemann: worked
[11:13] <kamui> thanks man
[11:14] <Schuenemann> kamui, the problem is that that will only work for java
[11:14] <Schuenemann> no javac, jar, rmic, appletviewer
[11:14] <Schuenemann> the apt-get installation should've set everything
[11:14] <Arekanderu> waylandbill, can you help me?
[11:15] <Arekanderu> Could somebody help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28712/
[11:15] <kamui> Schuenemann: crap
[11:15] <Darkrift> waylandbill, apt-get
[11:15] <Darkrift> lol
[11:15] <Darkrift> this is the earlier version
[11:15] <Darkrift> i wanted 2.0, but apt installed 1.09
[11:15] <Darkrift> 1.0*
[11:15] <Schuenemann> kamui, you can use the same command for the other commands, but that sucks
[11:16] <Darkrift> now those errors are gone
[11:16] <Darkrift> but vmware crashes with a sig11 :S
[11:16] <Arekanderu> So nobody can help me? :(
[11:16] <Arekanderu> I did this as you said : glxinfo | grep direct and I got this error msg:
[11:16] <Arekanderu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:16] <Arekanderu> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[11:16] <Schuenemann> Arekanderu, you have an nvidia?
[11:17] <Arekanderu> Yes
[11:17] <CaBlGuY> !AVI
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <Schuenemann> have you set the card correctly?
[11:17] <Arekanderu> I don't know
[11:17] <Schuenemann> !nvidia | Arekanderu
[11:17] <ubotu> Arekanderu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:17] <Arekanderu> How do I check that?
[11:17] <Schuenemann> you have to install the drivers
[11:17] <Arekanderu> To much text
[11:17] <Arekanderu> I don't even get what the texts say lol ;/
[11:17] <Schuenemann> try this: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[11:17] <Schuenemann> see if you have it installed
[11:17] <Arekanderu> Oki brb
[11:18] <Arekanderu> Nope
[11:18] <Arekanderu> It says "Installed: None"
[11:18] <Schuenemann> so, go to that link and install it
[11:18] <Arekanderu> lspci | grep -i <-- It won't help :(
[11:19] <Arekanderu> It says that I should write that in Command
[11:19] <Arekanderu> But it just won't help at all
[11:19] <Schuenemann> no, the link the bot told you
[11:19] <Schuenemann> !nvidia | Arekanderu
[11:19] <ubotu> Arekanderu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <Arekanderu> That's what I'm looking at
[11:19] <Arekanderu> It says lspci | grep -i <--
[11:19] <Arekanderu> Ahh wait
[11:19] <Arekanderu> Found something, brb
[11:20] <Arekanderu> But why does it talk about Ubuntu?
[11:20] <Arekanderu> I've got Kubuntu
[11:21] <Schuenemann> it's the same process
[11:21] <Schuenemann> read the edgy or earlier part
[11:21] <Arekanderu> kk
[11:21] <Latty> A question: In KOrganiser why can only I be the organiser of an event? Is there a way for someone else to be?
[11:23] <Bokanov> why isn;t my libusb being found?
[11:23] <Bokanov> or rather, how would I install it so that it could be found by other ./configure
[11:25] <level1> Hi, I haven't been getting sound from flash videos recently (the video plays fine)... I can download the videos and play them and I get sound, but if they are part of a webpage (ie youtube) I don't get sound... this is in both konqueror and firefox
[11:25] <level1> should I reinstall flash?  how do I do that?
[11:25] <m00foo> Bokanov: you probably need libusb-dev for that
[11:26] <nathan> ernoon
[11:26] <nathan> evening even
[11:27] <Arekanderu> Schue
[11:27] <Arekanderu> Now it says :
[11:27] <Arekanderu> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:27] <Arekanderu> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:27] <Arekanderu> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:27] <Arekanderu> command:
[11:28] <Arekanderu> And it says some commands
[11:28] <Arekanderu> What should I do?
[11:28] <bbb> mm
[11:29] <nathan> weird my sys jus logged itself out lol
[11:30] <kaic> i've installed the NTFS Configuration Tool but it seems not to be working... why?
[11:30] <level1> kaic: whats not working?
[11:30] <kaic> level1: NTFS Configuration Tool
[11:31] <level1> kaic: okay, you have to say whats happening
[11:31] <kaic> I've installed it in Add/Remove programs
[11:31] <level1> "not working" isn't very informative
[11:31] <Schuenemann> !doesn't work
[11:31] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:31] <nathan> people i think my linux is going screwy
[11:31] <nathan> each time i press start.. it seems to log me out?
[11:32] <level1> nathan: start... you mean the "K
[11:32] <kaic> level1: i want to read and write ntfs drivers
[11:32] <nathan> yeah
[11:32] <level1> "K" button?
[11:32] <level1> nathan: thats weird
[11:32] <kaic> level1: so i've installed NTFS Configuration Tool, as the manual says
[11:32] <nathan> yeah
[11:32] <level1> kaic: and you ran it?
[11:32] <nathan> i haven't installed anything prone to a virus etc? lol
[11:32] <nathan> not done it before..
[11:32] <kaic> level1: But when I try to run it... It simply doesn't work
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Hey how can I install without installing Grub?
[11:33] <kaic> nothing happens
[11:33] <level1> nathan: unlikely... so you mean you click the "K" button, and then whats happens
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Or Swap or any of that
[11:33] <level1> kaic: try running it in the terminal
[11:33] <kaic> level1: should i restart?
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Oh wait a second
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Never mind...
[11:33] <nathan> well yeah .. i start scrolling up the menu and bang it logs out
[11:33] <kaic> level1: i'm a newbie... how do i run it in the terminal?
[11:33] <nathan> fails to login once, then lets me login
[11:34] <kaic> leve1: adept manager?
[11:34] <level1> kaic: well, you go to K>System>Konsole
[11:34] <sx66> how do you put back the freespace into an ntfs partition?
[11:34] <level1> then you get a command prompt
[11:34] <TechSalvager> What CD do I need for a oem install?
[11:34] <nathan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-dc90466401e722c0ba6727211e4698bd2be62638 - Question 2 lol. If i go through that link, will this enable me to download the CSS library for watching DVD's
[11:35] <kaic> level1: wich cmd prompt?
[11:35] <Schuenemann> !midi
[11:35] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:35] <level1> kaic: well, if you start konsole, you should get a window that has a white box in it called "konsole" right?
[11:36] <level1> thats a command prompt
[11:36] <level1> you can type the name of a program (more or less) and it will start
[11:36] <level1> if theres an error, it will print what went wrong to the screen... Standard Operating Procedure
[11:37] <krzysztof> som tu jacy plolacy
[11:37] <level1> I'm trying to figure out what the name of NTFS configuration toll is
[11:37] <level1> krzysztof: what langauge is that?
[11:37] <krzysztof> poliszh
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> !pl
[11:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:38] <kaic> level1: it says i need to run it as root
[11:38] <level1> nathan: when you say logs out... does it seem like its logging out properly or crashing?
[11:38] <kaic> level1: how do i log my root account?
[11:38] <K-Ryan> sudo or kdesu
[11:38] <krzysztof> i hew baned on ubuntu.pl
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo | kaic
[11:38] <ubotu> kaic: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:38] <level1> kaic: oh, type it again, but this type say kdesu first
[11:38] <K-Ryan> if its something in the konsole, use sudo
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu | kaic
[11:38] <ubotu> kaic: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:38] <level1> so sudo ntfswhatever
[11:39] <level1> or kdesu ntfswhatever, do that
[11:39] <arekanderu> Shue are you still here?
[11:39] <K-Ryan> kdesu sounds right
[11:39] <gemidjy> when the scrolling (with thinkpad trackpoint) hits the top or the botton of a webpage, the site goes one page back, as if the Back button is pressed ..
[11:39] <gemidjy> anyone has idea on how to turn that off :?
[11:39] <level1> krzysztof: do you speak english?  maybe we can help you
[11:40] <arekanderu> I really need help, I can't install my Nvidia Geforce MX 440 card
[11:40] <level1> gemidjy: what browser are you using?
[11:40] <arekanderu> I've tried alot of solusions, none have worked
[11:40] <level1> arekanderu: what have you tried?
[11:40] <kaic> level1: after the config my drivers should be at /mnt/ right?
[11:40] <krzysztof> i stady english
[11:40] <arekanderu> I have tried some commands
[11:40] <arekanderu> I can't even remember them
[11:40] <arekanderu> But it said
[11:40] <arekanderu> w8
[11:40] <level1> kaic: call them drives, drivers are something else
[11:41] <level1> kaic: in ubuntu, the drives are usually put in /media/, but they might be in /mnt/
[11:41] <gemidjy> level1: Firefox
[11:41] <Chousuke> arekanderu: I think the most current nvidia drivers no longer support that card.
[11:41] <arekanderu> When I do this command : glxinfo | grep direct
[11:41] <jhutchins_lt> mount will tell you where things are mounted
[11:41] <arekanderu> This comes up:
[11:41] <Chousuke> arekanderu: you need nvidia-legacy-glx or something
[11:41] <level1> gemidjy: I don't know, maybe try in #ubuntu
[11:41] <arekanderu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:41] <arekanderu> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[11:41] <gemidjy> ok level1
[11:42] <arekanderu> legacy glx is what I tried I think
[11:42] <arekanderu> It said that it installed alot of stuff
[11:42] <arekanderu> but nothing really happened I guess
[11:42] <K-Ryan> Chouske: that's why he was going for legacy
[11:42] <K-Ryan> the older cards use legacy if i'm not mistaken
[11:42] <krzysztof> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:42] <krzysztof> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[11:43] <arekanderu> so should I try that command once more?
[11:43] <level1> krzysztof: did you run dpkg --configure -a? that seems to work miracles
[11:43] <kaic> level1: tkz man, it's done! ty for the support
[11:43] <krzysztof> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:43] <arekanderu> nvidia-legacy-glx <-- Doesn't work
[11:44] <kaic> see ya
[11:44] <arekanderu> Please guys, I really need help
[11:44] <krzysztof> i not andersted
[11:44] <level1> krzysztof: you got that when running dpkg --configure -a?
[11:44] <CrunchyFerrett> Whats the problem?>
[11:44] <krzysztof> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:44] <jhutchins_lt> !nvidia | arekanderu
[11:44] <ubotu> arekanderu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:44] <arekanderu> ..
[11:45] <arekanderu> Thanks jh, that won't work
[11:45] <arekanderu> Already tried that like 100x times
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: chipset?
[11:45] <Latty> A question: In KOrganiser why can only I be the organiser of an event? Is there a way for someone else to be?
[11:45] <arekanderu> Geforce MX 440
[11:45] <krzysztof> not work any aplikacion of my system
[11:45] <arekanderu> jh
[11:45] <arekanderu> on that page you sent me
[11:45] <krzysztof> it not arledy runing
[11:46] <jhutchins_lt> Uh oh.
[11:46] <krzysztof> dpkg
[11:46] <jhutchins_lt> No mime types.
[11:46] <arekanderu> it says that I should input this into the command : lspci | grep -i
[11:46] <stdin> arekanderu: you need to disable composit
[11:46] <arekanderu> How do I do that stdin?
[11:46] <level1> krzysztof: are you trying to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?  try typing that into the command line
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: google your card w/ glx, see what you get, I gotta restart some things here.
[11:47] <TechSalvager> how can I get prompt at version 7.xs setup screen?
[11:47] <stdin>  arekanderu: look here http://tinyurl.com/of644  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-6a16bd77ea4c381bf0c6502489d408f9dc6d5d67
[11:47] <stdin> arekanderu: the part wit "Section "Extensions" "
[11:47] <level1> arekanderu: if you type part of a person's name in irc, then press tab, it will fill in the rest of the name... that way we get notified with a little sound
[11:48] <arekanderu> level1: thanks man
[11:48] <arekanderu> stdin: ok, i'll check it out, brb
[11:48] <arekanderu> stdin: wow, there's my problem
[11:49] <arekanderu> stdin: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:49] <drif> does anyone have a clue why acer aspire 5110 laptop doesn't boot ubuntu but hangs on hardware detection?
[11:49] <stdin> arekanderu: I knew I saw it somewhere before :)
[11:49] <arekanderu> stdin:
[11:49] <arekanderu> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:49] <arekanderu> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:49] <arekanderu> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:49] <arekanderu> command:
[11:49] <arekanderu> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:49] <arekanderu> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[11:49] <arekanderu> from nv to nvidia.
[11:50] <arekanderu> stdin: when i tried the command they're saying : sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:50] <arekanderu> stdin: that appears ;/
[11:50] <stdin> arekanderu: I would just do what it says "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum"
[11:51] <arekanderu> stdin: something's happening o.O
[11:51] <arekanderu> stdin: or yeah, nothing is happening
[11:51] <arekanderu> stdin:  command screen just froze i think
[11:52] <Latty> A question: In KOrganiser why can only I be the organiser of an event? Is there a way for someone else to be?
[11:52] <arekanderu> stdin: when i wrote "sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum"
[11:52] <Schuenemann> how can I see all dependencies a package has?
[11:52] <stdin> arekanderu: it all one command, all one line
[11:52] <arekanderu> stdin: omg sorry lol, i'm such a noob >.<
[11:53] <stdin> Schuenemann: "apt-cache show PackageName" shows its deps
[11:53] <arekanderu> stdin: nothing is happening ;/
[11:54] <Schuenemann> thanks, brother
[11:54] <arekanderu> stdin: and when i'm trying to add / change the file xorg.conf in the x11 map, it says that i'm not "allowed" to
[11:55] <stdin> arekanderu: is it already set to use the "nvidia" driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:55] <arekanderu> stdin: w8, i'll chekc
[11:55] <TechSalvager> 12`I don't see a prompt for version 7 install
[11:55] <TechSalvager> wheres it at?
[11:56] <jhutchins_lt> TechSalvager: Version 7 of what?
[11:56] <arekanderu> stdin: nope, it says it's using "nv"
[11:56] <TechSalvager> ubuntu desktop
[11:56] <arekanderu> stdin: i know i have to change that to "nvidia", but i can't save the changes
[11:56] <stdin> arekanderu:  how are you trying to edit it?
[11:56] <Schuenemann> arekanderu, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:57] <gemidjy> where can I customize KMenu items height ?
[11:57] <arekanderu> Schuenemann: is that one command?
[11:57] <Schuenemann> yes
[11:57] <arekanderu> stdin: i'm just opening the file and than trying to save it
[11:57] <stdin> arekanderu: use the command Schuenemann gave you
[11:57] <stdin> arekanderu: it needs to be opened as root to edit it (kdesu)
[11:58] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: That sounds like you forgot kdesu.
[11:58] <arekanderu> It's working! I'm in the file with some Kate..?
[11:58] <arekanderu> i saved it now
[11:58] <arekanderu> do I have to restart the comp now or?
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> just x
[11:59] <Schuenemann> you'd better make a copy of xorg.conf before restarting
[11:59] <arekanderu> kk
[11:59] <stdin> arekanderu: no, did you add the "        Option  "Composite" "Disable" part ?
[11:59] <Latty> A question: In KOrganiser why can only I be the organiser of an event? Is there a way for someone else to be?
[11:59] <arekanderu> stdin: what? >.<
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> Schuenemann: Not much use since he's already changed it.
[11:59] <stdin> arekanderu: to stop that error happening
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> Latty: Might ask in #kde
[11:59] <Schuenemann> well, he can change to 'nv' and save again
[11:59] <Schuenemann> if he can't start X, what will he do? =)
[12:00] <Latty> jhutchins_lt: Just gone into #kontact :P
[12:00] <Schuenemann> save with another name
[12:00] <jhutchins_lt> vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <arekanderu> i'm confused now
[12:00] <stdin> kate will save a xorg.conf~ anyway
[12:00] <Schuenemann> I don't even know how to save using vi
[12:00] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Don't be.
[12:00] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: It's ":w"
[12:00] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: what's that option composite disable thing?
[12:00] <gemidjy> where can I customize KMenu items height ?
[12:00] <Schuenemann> stdin,  how to restore the file with that '~' one ?
[12:00] <Schuenemann> they have different sizes
[12:01] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: No clue, I'm a console guy who just uses KDE.
[12:01] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, not just w
[12:01] <see-g> Schuenemann: cp -a xorg.conf~ xorg.conf
[12:01] <arekanderu> stdin: and now, do i have to restart my comp and the graphic drivers will be running?
[12:01] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: ?
[12:02] <stdin> Schuenemann: you can run this "sudo cp /etc/xorg.conf{~,}"
[12:02] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: You only have to restart X.
[12:02] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Log out and log back in.
[12:02] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: kk brb
[12:02] <grul> !ftp
[12:02] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:02] <grul> !ftpd
[12:02] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[12:03] <grul> !proftpd
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <Schuenemann> grul, filezilla
[12:03] <grul> i want server
[12:03] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[12:03] <grul> but thanks
[12:04] <stdin> !info proftpd
[12:04] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[12:05] <TechSalvager> !netboot
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> grul: Usually a bad idea to run an FTP server, there are better ways to transfer files these days.
[12:05] <grul> really?
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> grul: Yes.  FTP is one of the most easily hacked services.
[12:05] <grul> surely it depends on the means of transfer
[12:05] <stdin> http, ssh, samba, etc
[12:06] <jhutchins_lt> er, fish
[12:06] <Schuenemann> heh, my first ISP FTP server (97 or 98) didn't even do authentication, anyone could log in and download all logins and passwords
[12:07] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: O_o; That sounds like fun...
[12:07] <jhutchins_lt> My first one got hacked - security by obscurity was obsolete even then.
[12:08] <Schuenemann> yes, everything was very 'amateur'
[12:08] <Schuenemann> well, some still are
[12:08] <TeraDyne> I was about to say...
[12:09] <Schuenemann> like MS >)
[12:11] <quinton_> Can someone help me disable the grub screen please?
[12:12] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Just set the timeout reall low, like 1-3 seconds.
 Explain how to do that please.
[12:13] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: Please explain how to do that?
[12:13] <Schuenemann> quinton_, you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <jhutchins_lt> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:14] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Look for the timeout or delay setting.
[12:14] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: how do I get to that?