=== beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host81-153-8-121.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [12:25] StevenK: about gnome-chemistry-utils and gchempaint (rdepends of libgoffice-0-3 (NBS)): I'll mail the Debian maintainers if updated packages are planned in the near future [12:25] they are [12:27] geser: well, I think Debian is waiting for libgoffice-0-3 [12:30] well, 0.3 is the unstable version [12:30] hopefully 0.4 will be in unstable soon [12:32] yeah, ok [12:32] geser: what's the problem with g-c-u in Ubuntu anyway? === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] geser: it's old and we have goffice 0.4 [12:35] g-c-u 0.8 need goffice 0.4 [12:36] did 0.4 get released as a stable version upstream? [12:36] yes [12:37] ok [12:40] really Ubuntu should lead the packaging for g-c-u [12:40] because we tend to take goffice from Debian experimental === agoliveira is now known as agoliveira_dinne [12:42] I think it also needs a newer openbabel [12:42] yes [12:42] 2.1 [12:44] one option would be to upload it to exprerimental as soon as 2.1 is released [12:44] it's odd to me that goffice has been in experimental for over a year [12:44] there aren't really a lot of packages that depend on it [12:45] because it was an unstable release series I guess [12:46] I suppose [12:46] goffice (0.4.0-1) experimental; urgency=low [12:46] but 0.4 has been out for about 2 months now [12:46] * New upstream development release. [12:46] that's odd, yes [12:46] I'm gonna ask jbrefort about it when I see him next [12:47] azeem: I talk to him most every day [12:48] heh [12:48] hmm, the Debian maintainer maintains 64 packages it seems [12:48] I wonder if he just doesn't have time to work on goffice === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-076-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host81-153-8-121.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-164-135-78.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host81-153-8-121.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira_dinne is now known as agoliveira === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.78] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:cb36:1c97:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cynics [n=cynics@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] StevenK: so what are you doing now with libcurl? [03:07] LaserJock: Plotting flaming death for the Debian release team and the Debian maintainer. [03:08] sweet [03:08] so did you end up reverting your transition? [03:09] The transitional libcurl4 packages got killed again, and I've just finished the second lot of sixty rebuilds [03:09] so we are going to go to libcurl4 ? [03:09] Nope, we are heading back to libcurl3 === LaserJock is a little confused [03:10] so we tried to go to libcurl4 but it didn't work so well so we're going back to libcurl3? [03:10] SONAME screwups [03:10] Debian went to libcurl4, found a complete path of pain, and went back to libcurl3. [03:10] there's a forum thread so I thought I'd give a response if I figure out what's going on [03:11] StevenK: unless you want to write it? ;-) [03:11] We went to libcurl4, did a bunch of rebuilds, and then pitti and I decided the bitter pill needed to swallowed at some point, so we first tried to provide libcurl4 packages, which didn't work, and so went back to libcurl3 and a complete bunch of rebuilds. [03:12] LaserJock: I'm not eloquent enough. :-) [03:12] and I am? [03:12] somebody might as well do it [03:13] LaserJock: You're probably more eloquent than I am. :-) [03:13] of course, he's a doc writer [03:15] Good point. [03:15] ajmitch: and that means what exactly? :-) [03:15] I'm dumb enough to get suckered into writing [03:17] StevenK: is that because libcurl4 was supposed to be compatible with libcurl3? [03:20] LaserJock: Supposed to be === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.49.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] LaserJock: The problem is because Debian includes a patch that versions the symbols, so they aren't really compatible ... [03:24] umm ... darn [03:26] LaserJock: As you can tell, it's a little complicated anyway. [03:27] mhm [03:27] well I just made a post [03:28] as the thread started 1hr ago and already has like 5-6 posts === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:30] LaserJock: Link me? [03:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492502 [03:31] Thanks [03:34] please feel free to correct/add to my post [03:34] Hrm. I might have to duke it out with amarok, too. [03:34] That would require signing up to the forums. :-) [03:35] really? I thought you had an account there [03:36] If I do, it's news to me. [03:36] maybe it was ScottK === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xeruno [n=xeruno@cable201-233-216-118.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@p54A72074.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:47] What was maybe me? === ScottK does have an account with maybe a full handfull of posts. [04:48] Now that I've read the scrollback. [04:52] sorry, my bad [04:53] wahoo, first "real" upload to Main === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.10.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:59] StevenK: are you there buddy? [05:01] StevenK: ok just so you know whenever u come back openoffice also needs rebuilding for the libcurl thing === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.10.162] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:29] morning Hobbsee [05:29] or afternoon [05:29] or whatever it is there [05:31] hey LaserJock! [05:31] meh. i just got up, so it's morning [05:33] a nice definition of morning [05:33] yep [05:33] very flexible [05:33] hmm, it seems like app-install-data got turned into app-install-data-ubuntu [05:34] it's morning in europe [05:35] very early morning [05:40] Hobbsee: how's life? [05:40] LaserJock: life? it's going OK. i'm waiting, whcih is sucking a bit :) [05:42] waiting for exam results? [05:42] that too === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-20-198.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-43.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:17] morning [06:17] hiya mpt, fabbione [06:17] StevenK: ping? [06:17] fabbione: Pong [06:18] StevenK: i just noticed the big rebuild of death for libcurl. Are you going to take care of main too? at least git-core needs love [06:18] StevenK: or do you need people to sponsor to main? [06:18] fabbione: he's a core dev [06:18] ok [06:18] Thanks for noticing. :-P [06:19] Hobbsee: sorry i can't remember everybody :) === Hobbsee has persuaded *him* to upload *her* stuff before :P [06:19] fabbione: git-core should be fixed. [06:19] StevenK: ok [06:19] fabbione: you need a better memory. [06:19] Hobbsee: i need to be 10 years younger :) [06:19] Heh [06:20] hi Hobbsee === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a10fbf268185da23] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:20] fabbione: good luck finding that time machine. === ijuz__ [n=ijuz@p54ABF9DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D81A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:44] hmm StevenK I guess we also need an OOo rebuild... [06:45] fabbione: Correct. But pitti told me not to touch it, which I plan on following to the letter. :-) [06:45] ehehhe [06:45] let calc handle it? [06:45] Suits me. [06:46] all good :) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottLij [n=scott@66-227-218-192.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:56] fabbione: Are you a big bad buildd person? [06:57] StevenK: no sorry, i have no access to the buildd [06:57] fabbione: It's fine, I can wait. === gpocentek [i=gauvain@sd-10791.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-164-244.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dAndy [i=dandy@serenity.cat.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel === deuce868 [n=rick_h@dns2.avwsystems.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf_ [n=hjmf@150.Red-83-44-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cynics [n=cynics@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StevenK waves to pitti [08:24] morning pitti! [08:25] pitti: I missed a bunch of rebuilds - 21, which I've done. [08:25] pitti: The total is 62, with 3 FTBFS on all archs, and 3 FTBFS on ia64 only. [08:26] pitti: The 3 FTBFS on all archives can be fixed with a give-back. The three are bibletime, cduce and gnomesword. [08:26] s/archives/archs/ [08:27] Good morning [08:28] StevenK: I'll give them back, thank you! [08:28] pitti: Thank you. :-) [08:34] hi Hobbsee! === Hobbsee hugs pitti :) === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:38] pitti: I think that this publisher run should polish off the rest of them. Now I can look at other stuff, like apache 1 === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-4de34adc31dd6f56] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === null__ [n=null@g624-9034.itee.uq.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] StevenK: you are tireless, aren't you? :) *MUST* *CLEAN* *ARCHIVE* [08:48] pitti: s/tireless/insane/ i suspect [08:48] Both? [08:48] pitti: you should make him an archive admin next, so he can cue his own stuff :P [08:48] pitti: Hey, if it helps you and Hobbsee in your jobs, and cuts down on the number of bugs, I'm all for it. [08:48] StevenK: you could help me in my job by going to work for me tonight. === Hobbsee hopes that the boss hasnt utterly screwed up the rosters *again* for tonight. [08:49] Hah === Tonio_ [n=tonio@mst45-2-82-242-83-37.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e5e0b1568ddc9e8d] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] umm, stupid bash question, can I have a variable in a variable name? [08:49] I think so. [08:50] ${$WHATVER} ? [08:50] no.. that doesn't work [08:50] Doesn't for me, either. [08:50] LaserJock: You can in Perl... [08:50] eval? [08:51] That works [08:51] foo="blah" ; eval lala${foo}="foo" ; echo $lalablah [08:52] You can, I just forgot the grammar. [08:55] blah [08:55] I should just do this in python [08:56] $ A=B; B=foo; echo ${!A} [08:56] foo === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mikmorg [n=mikmorg@rrcs-24-153-192-208.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] That smells like a bash-ism [08:58] It is, too [08:58] Yes, definitely bashism. [08:58] Is there any way to do something like: dpkg --install --recursive --pending pool/*.deb ? [08:59] Ie. I want to install given a path, only the files marked for installation === carlos_ [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-53dfa29cc08ef7ae] has joined #ubuntu-devel === claviola [n=claviola@frotz.zork.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bhale [n=bhale@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=mkorn@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7228F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:28] good morning [09:31] hey pitti [09:31] hey dholbach === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@83-131-15-53.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] good morning folks [09:41] morning all [09:46] hey mdke [09:48] StevenK: so, the give-backs mostly worked, except for some ia64 stuff [09:48] StevenK: looking forward to this noon's NBS output :) === cr3 [i=marc@nat/canonical/x-5c4ffbc00cc929f9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:57] pitti: there is a little problem with libcurl-gnutls, it has been reverted, but I think version 0ubuntu3 should be removed (the deb files) from the repos, since libcurl4-gnutls is still there, so wants to be installed, and conflicts with latest version [09:58] pitti: looks like the "real" package is prior to the virtual one and thus that blocks the all openoffice installation..... a bit annoying :) === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] Tonio_: ah, right; I just asked doko_ about a new OO.o, but we should wait for Chris [10:00] oki [10:01] hey seb128 [10:01] pitti: to be honnest I don't know if the problem is due to libgnutls or openoffice.... looks like OOo should be rebuild with libcurl3-gnutls, but I may be wrong... [10:01] hi dholbach [10:01] dholbach: we'll be able to make a point on kdebluetooth in about 3 weeks, time for upstream to heavilly fix bugs and us to prepare a nice package [10:01] hey seb128 [10:01] hi Tonio_ [10:02] Tonio_: rock and roll - that's good news [10:02] asac: do you use a VCS for network-manager? === mathiaz [i=mathiaz@nat/canonical/x-174dff87971c89ac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:04] Tonio_: OOo needs to be rebuilt; all other packages depending on libcurl4{,-gnutls} except apt have been already. [10:04] Tonio_: it should, right, and the 4 stuff needs to be removed [10:04] siretart: yes [10:05] siretart: https://code.launchpad.net/network-manager [10:05] ah, excellent [10:05] thanks === cassidy [n=cassidy@8.241-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] yay, apport-failed-retrace tags work now, as well as removing the CoreDump.gz for successful retraces === YokoZar [n=scott@c-76-20-46-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] Is there an Ubuntu.com jabber server? [10:32] YokoZar: I don't believe so, but it is particularly not suitable for this channel. [10:32] Fujitsu: I meant for developers and people with @ubuntu.com email addresses [10:33] shawarma: ah, langpack bootstrap on PPA is finally done; the buildd is unDoSed again now :) [10:33] pitti: That took a while. [10:33] erk, yeah [10:33] in the old days I built the entire batch of 300 packages in 10 minutes or so [10:33] But now we have some reasonable translations [10:33] *? [10:34] Fujitsu: the packages itself didn't change a lot, but with PPA I don't need to have nasty hacks for maintaining an archive for myself and care about domination and multiple releases and such === mdz [i=mdz@nat/canonical/x-68405ddc5d457f27] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:34] Fujitsu: and it's easier to just sync/copy the packages from the PPA to archive.u.c. [10:35] pitti: Is PPA working OK? [10:35] pitti: Yes, I used it last night, too. It's alright, I just thought it was going to be like that every day. I'm calmer now. :) [10:35] morning all [10:36] Hi mdz. [10:37] Fujitsu: apart from buildd shortage, yes [10:37] shawarma: no, I only build new daily packages when there are actually some changes; those are usually 10 languages or so [10:38] Still just the two? [10:38] Oh, and one won't have been doing anything, because it's amd64? [10:38] shawarma: I enable the cronjobs on rookery again now, let's see whether it's sustainable [10:38] Fujitsu: right === Fujitsu hugs pitti for StacktraceSource. [10:39] Fujitsu: is it useful for you? cool === pitti flips the switch to upload daily gutsy langpack straight to the archive; let's see how that goes [10:42] Could anyone help me out - I can't remember the command that tricks 'uname -r' [10:43] mikmorg: sounds like an #ubuntu question; but 'tricks'? [10:43] pitti: yea, sorry.. actually probably more like ##linux.. but there is a standard way to make it return a false value if I remember right. [10:49] seb128: ah, nice: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=apport-failed-retrace === yosch [n=yosch@clrglop207.in2p3.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:49] seb128: CoreDump.gz removal for successful retraces works now, too [10:49] pitti: rock on! [10:50] pitti: good job ;) === pitti goes to fix various bugs in lib->package mappings which are likely to be responsible for the failures === yosch [n=yosch@clrglop207.in2p3.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:51] mikmorg: you could do it with an LD_PRELOAD wrapper for uname(2); a standard way doesn't spring to mind [10:52] pitti: the compiz one is "CoreDump" is not a core dump: File format not recognized" [10:53] pitti: I'm wondering where the coredump is screwed, the non debug backtrace looks ok, so it means it was working on the user machine [10:54] pitti: Why am I seeing a lot of bugs tagged apport-crash that are several days old? [10:55] seb128: I have a lot of cases where /lib/tls/i686/cmov/lib*-2.6.so cannot be identified [10:55] seb128: that might account for a good deal [10:55] Fujitsu: because that tag is a permanent one; it denotes the ProblemType: (crash, package, kernel, etc.) === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:56] pitti: Ahh, but they were also not retraced. [10:56] seb128: also, some parsing bugs: "its package compiz-fusion-plugins-main,universe is not available" or "but its package libs is not available" :) [10:56] Fujitsu: please give me the numbers, I'll look in the logs [10:56] pitti: I don't know any offhand, but I'll find some in a sec. [10:58] Bug #123870 [10:58] Launchpad bug 123870 in listen "[gutsy] listen.py crashed on exit (SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New())" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123870 [10:58] pitti: ^^ === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerbero__2 [n=jga@pD95278E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] Fujitsu: ah, broken core dump: struct.error: unpack requires a string argument of length 4 [11:04] is anyone using mwolson's emacs22 packages here yet? === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:05] siretart: "mwolson"? [11:05] pitti: would emacs22 need a MIR? [11:05] Fujitsu: since it's the gzip wrapping that is damaged, and not just the compressed core dump itself, I suspect that something went wrong during upload or so [11:05] seb128: Michael Olson , discussed the last days on ubuntu-motu@ [11:05] siretart: no, I don't need one; however, I *do* want only one emacs in the archive :) [11:06] pitti: its rather a new upstream (in a new source package) [11:06] siretart: well, s/archive/main/ at least [11:06] I see [11:06] pitti: I guess that would do it. [11:07] Fujitsu: I updated the bug and removed the core dump attachment [11:07] pitti: So I aw. [11:07] *saw === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] can somebody give back gnome-terminal on amd64 and sparc? [11:08] dholbach: doing [11:08] thanks pitti === stub [i=stub@nat/canonical/x-0b6118118a11093b] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] running update-initramfs multiple times in one run is going to be fixed in gutsy, right? :-) === sabdfl [i=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:10] sabdfl: good morning Mark [11:10] ...and morning * :-) === gouki_ is now known as gouki === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-211-82.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] Nafallo: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dpkg-triggers [11:15] targeted, but as ever not certain [11:16] cjwatson: thanks. I'll subscribe if I'm not already :-) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:17] is cprov the one to ask about alsa-driver source uploads silently going the way of /dev/null, possibly due to a rather extensive LP: #foo entries? [11:18] (on the order of 25 bugs) [11:21] crimsun: I looked into it briefly, and it's certainly well beyond a humble archive admin to sort out [11:21] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8312458/fSl6HTFlQliJLUZlM1vUKk7DaiY.txt [11:21] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8312459/6qiBYhYEVQ0X5VDjVgz0H9EEer9.txt, too [11:22] crimsun: something between carlos (Rosetta import) and cprov, I think [11:22] ok, thanks. [11:24] pitti: hmm, I don't think it's related with me [11:25] carlos: right, entirely a permission problem [11:25] it just seems to happen during translation tarball import [11:26] pitti: hmm, that backtrace is about sending the notification email [11:27] pitti: where do you see it related with translation uploads? [11:28] SELECT pluralforms, code, uuid, direction, visible, pluralexpression, nativename, englishname FROM Language ... [11:29] carlos: but that's just where it dies with a permission error on anguage [11:29] language [11:29] that doesn't mean it's a translation upload problem [11:29] it looks more related with answers tracker [11:30] it also uses language table [11:30] Translations is not the only user for that information anymore [11:30] dholbach: around ? [11:30] dholbach: you commented bug #124145 [11:30] Launchpad bug 124145 in libtunepimp "Please merge libtunepimp (main) from Debian unstable (main) " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124145 [11:31] the depends was remove in the last debian update [11:31] woah ... [11:31] did anyone here ever try to run gnome in 8bit graphics mode ? [11:31] dholbach: (appears in libtunepimp_0.5.3-4.patch ) [11:31] ogra: no, does it crash? [11:31] seb128, yeh, like mad [11:32] dholbach: anyway, no doc about this change, so i'm not sure it has to be added ... [11:32] panel restarts in an endless loop [11:32] ogra: there is a known cairo bug [11:32] ah [11:32] looks like it's not trivial to fix [11:32] well, not that i'd expect any users to run gnome in 8bit [11:32] :) [11:32] ogra: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4945 [11:33] Freedesktop bug 4945 in general "Cairo doesn't support 8-bit pseudocolor visuals" [Critical,New] [11:33] actually why not (esp. with vnc)? === Keybuk [i=scott@nat/canonical/x-c1a8327c44a89abd] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:34] coNP: let's say it's not a standard usecase [11:34] wow, seems there are some concerned actualy [11:34] vnc can color-convert from higher bpps to 8bpp for transit [11:34] anyway, it's not so long that my SO used a 8bpp SparcStation as an X term... === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:42] Sp4rKy: it was added in 0.5.3-3 - "fix depdendencies to be binNMU safe" [11:45] yep [11:45] but i don't know why it was removed [11:45] it's removed in your debdiff [11:45] yes [11:45] and it was removed in the debian update [11:45] yeah, you didn't merge it into your patch [11:46] i didn't merge it because it was explicitly removed in the debian update [11:47] http://paste.dunnewind.net/8 [11:47] oh ok [11:47] line 17/18 [11:47] now I see it too [11:48] :) [11:48] excusez-moi :) [11:48] ^^ [11:48] np [11:48] so i don't need to add it ? [11:48] no, let me review it again [11:48] if it's good, I'll upload it [11:48] ok [11:48] np === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a538:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity2 is now known as infinity [12:10] keescook: btw, it seems I can remove the ptrace hack from apport's _read_maps() again? IIRC you said that ptracing is not necessary any more? 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[02:00] StevenK: There's a sync that might help (I've just been drafting the bug) === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.47.79.83.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] persia: For what? [02:01] StevenK: nexuiz / curl [02:02] Cool. I'll ignore uploading it, and pitti/someone else can sync it. [02:02] StevenK: tell me once you confirmed it [02:02] StevenK: No promises that Debian was perfect - testing is on my immediate TODO :) [02:03] StevenK: What went wrong with it? [02:05] Fujitsu: I fixed nexuiz, and not nexuiz-server. [02:06] Ah. [02:06] So now the sync can. === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [i=mdz@nat/canonical/x-4a80c37e0adb22f6] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] crimsun: still here? [02:25] crimsun: cprov evaluated the error; you can either unlink the answer tracker item from the bug report and upload again, or wait a bit longer (should still happen today) for the real fix [02:27] is it possible to remove an offer of mentorship from another person? === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:29] Well. That was exciting. nexuiz 2.3-2 compiled against updated libcurl, installed successfully, and overheated my graphics card during testing. [02:29] pitti: Do you want a sync bug for nexuiz, or is here good enough? [02:29] persia: are you a MOTU? [02:30] pitti: Yes. [02:30] pitti: https://launchpad.net/~persia/+participation [02:30] persia: good enough for me then [02:30] pitti: Thanks. [02:30] we usually want bugs so we have a trail === persia files a "Fix Committed" Bug as a trail [02:31] persia: just use requestsync; I'll get to it later then === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] pitti: OK. Thanks. [02:35] pitti: I wish checkrdepends could cope with multiple packages at once. I'd rather not have it download every Packages.gz file for gutsy it can lay its hands on 24 times. [02:36] StevenK: true :) at some point this needs a more elaborate rewrite, also to get better output formatting [02:36] like sorting all the arches to one line and such === StevenK nods. === StevenK wonders if he can cache the files somewhere === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] pitti: it's called a web proxy, isn't it? [02:40] s/pitti/SK/ [02:40] I haven't trusted squid in quite some time. [02:41] StevenK: oops worked fairly well last time I was playing with proxies... === Hobbsee waves [02:42] iz Hobbsee [02:42] Mithrandir: it iz! R U Scared YET??? === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] Hobbsee: should I be? ;-) === Hobbsee lets the canon ball above Mithrandir loose, and watches as it falls on him, as a way of answering his question. [02:44] oh dear. Splatted Mithrandir. [02:44] Hobbsee: good thing I just moved out of the way then. === Mithrandir looks suspiciously at the hole in the floor where he just was. [02:44] Mithrandir: it fell where you moved. you're out of luck. [02:44] it was big enough that it'd fall on you wherever you moved to. === tseliot [n=tseliot@host237-248-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseliot [n=tseliot@host237-248-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@cable-85.28.95.83.coditel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@vpn173.mip.uni-hannover.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HlTMAN [n=p@unaffiliated/hltman] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === munckfish [n=munckfis@217.150.115.62] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] pitti: Should I file bugs about Apache modules that Build-Depend on apache-dev, but not apache2-* and have no rdepends, or just tell you here? === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira is now known as agoliveira_BRB === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] something is enabling laptop mode on my laptop in gutsy, when I switch to battery power [03:12] causing bug 12483 to rear its ugly head again [03:12] Launchpad bug 12483 in linux-source-2.6.15 "laptop-mode/IDE-APM hang on various laptops" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12483 === Hobbsee keeps her finger off the kickban button for a second there. [03:12] damn these people with nicks the same length, and the same colour on my client. [03:12] amitk: are you familiar with that bug? [03:13] it would save a lot of headache and learning which new power management component is responsible, if laptop mode just worked [03:13] mdz: not yet. I can have a look tomorrow at the earliest [03:14] amitk: do you happen to know which package is responsible for activating laptop-mode? this used to be done by acpi-support, but no longer === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-4a2f1ad3d375e4e6] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] mdz: no I don't [03:15] mdz, laptop-mode-tools: /etc/init.d/laptop-mode [03:15] /etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:16] kylem: thanks [03:16] does laptop mode actually work properly on some laptops? [03:16] yeah. it works fine on mine. === pygi [n=mario@83-131-84-115.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:17] hey folks [03:17] hiya pygi. how's burning* going? === cr3 [i=marc@nat/canonical/x-697fde45fd96702d] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:17] Hobbsee, well, good, but I am more worried about my exams right now ^_^ === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:18] pygi: when do they finish? [03:18] Hobbsee, I had last written one yesterday ... if I pass, then it's oral one in the Monday, and that's it for now [03:18] but it still leaves me with too much exams ... I was playing too much :p [03:18] pygi: heh [03:19] pygi: exams suck. so does waiting for results. but that sucks less than the exams :P [03:19] Hobbsee, hehe :) [03:19] pygi: sounds cool :) [03:19] pygi: oral for what? language or something? [03:19] Hobbsee, no, that exam is "Organization" [03:20] well, from that class [03:20] pygi: erk [03:20] Hobbsee, for language exams I was forbidden to attend class one month and a half before end of it, and got A's :p [03:20] so no exams for me there ^_^ [03:20] pygi: a class on organization. that's...interesting...seeing as anyhting you learned in that class would probably be negated by the time you spent being in that class [03:20] haha [03:21] Hobbsee, just you laugh ^_^ === pygi thinks he need to learn more languages =) === cr3 [i=marc@nat/canonical/x-3d0416672b8ae420] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:22] pygi: so do i. german will be useful if/when i move there. [03:22] or somewhere german-speaking. [03:22] Hobbsee, ehm, you're moving? [03:22] StevenK: removal bugs would be nice, for record keeping [03:23] pygi: sometime, yeah. after uni, i expect [03:23] Hobbsee, o well :) === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F76804.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:23] pygi: australia's so far away from everythin gelse, etc [03:24] Hobbsee, ah [03:24] Hobbsee, a place is as far from everything else as you make it [03:24] heh [03:25] Hobbsee, but I do understand you === hggdh [n=hggdh@86.sub-70-197-121.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:27] Hobbsee: i would not move to europe anymore, because it sucks === agoliveira_BRB is now known as agoliveira [03:27] ijuz__: why? [03:30] Hobbsee: politics are turning the EU into a state that would make Hitler and Mielke happy, i'm all negative [03:30] ijuz__: Europe != EU. [03:31] well, .no and .ch is still there, but not much else [03:31] ijuz__, Croatia is in Europe, and that's != EU as well :) [03:31]