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asacyeah12:29
asacinster it in such a way that it looks nice12:30
asace.g. with a bit indentation12:30
asacet al12:30
asacgnomefreak: do the same for ftbfs_toolkit_xre_Makefile_in12:30
gnomefreaksame bugs?12:30
asaci added the bug to the blocks field in bugzilla12:31
asactake a look12:31
asac(so you learn about bug dependencies in bugzilla)12:31
asacdocument the bug url as well as the attachment url12:31
asacshould be on top of the --12:33
asacas there is no other documentation12:33
asacmaybe paste my initial bug comment as documentation in as well12:33
asacand use summary as summary as well12:33
gnomefreakhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386904 doesnt have anything about the ftbfs_toolkit12:33
ubotuMozilla bug 386904 in Build Config "DIST_FILES and DIST_CHROME_FILES not implemented for install:: target in config/rules.mk" [Normal,Assigned] 12:33
asache?12:34
asacit has a patch attached12:34
asacits named differently12:34
asacif you want rename our patch filename as well12:34
asacyou see the attachment?12:35
asacdocument the url of that :)12:35
gnomefreakwhat bug number are you looking at12:35
asacthe one you showed me12:35
asac10 lines above12:35
asacgnomefreak: no12:35
asacsorry12:35
asacas i said12:35
gnomefreakhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38690412:35
ubotuMozilla bug 386904 in Build Config "DIST_FILES and DIST_CHROME_FILES not implemented for install:: target in config/rules.mk" [Normal,Assigned] 12:35
gnomefreak^^^ that one12:35
asaci set that bugs as blocks of our toolkit bug12:36
asaclook in the bug ... you will find12:36
asacthere is a link to the other bug in there :)12:36
asaci could give you the bug id of toolkit ... however i think its good if you learn about the blocks/depends feature of bugzilla :)12:36
asacjust take a close look ... its in there ;)12:36
gnomefreakah i see it12:37
asacyeah12:37
asacand in the toolkit bug12:37
asacthis bug is Depends On12:37
gnomefreakhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38686612:37
ubotuMozilla bug 386866 in Build Config "toolkit/xre/Makefile.in install:: target broken on trunk" [Normal,Assigned] 12:37
asacyeah12:37
gnomefreakso i add this bug URL to the part i added above the 2 patches?12:37
asacdo it like you did for the other patch12:38
asac(however that was)12:38
asacand put in a link to the patch as well (the attachment)12:38
gnomefreakok yeah i added those 3 lines already12:38
gnomefreakinto the toolkit patch12:38
asachuh?12:39
asaci think you added the wrong ones12:39
asacthe initial urls i posted where about bug 38690412:39
asacmozilla bug 38690412:39
ubotuMozilla bug 386904 in Build Config "DIST_FILES and DIST_CHROME_FILES not implemented for install:: target in config/rules.mk" [Normal,Assigned]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38690412:39
gnomefreakoh ok so im adding the bug above and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=270920 only to the toolkit patch and the other ones to the new patch12:39
asacyeah12:39
asacand add the attchment of the *toolkit* patch to the toolkit patch as well12:40
asace.g. you see the line ;) ?12:40
gnomefreakfixed12:40
asacgood12:40
asacnow you have to install the files12:40
asacin firefox-trunk.install12:40
asacif you already did that ... it might be worth a spin12:40
gnomefreaki didnt12:40
asacyeah. .. and add the new patch to series ... if not done12:41
asacotherwise it will not be used12:41
gnomefreakthats done12:41
asacok12:41
asacthen just firefox-trunk.install12:41
asacthen go12:41
gnomefreaki have it open12:41
asaclook in history for the path that will be used12:41
asaci already pasted how the files are called and in what dir they are12:41
gnomefreakdebian/firefox-trunk/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/application12:42
gnomefreak.ini12:42
asacyou will see how you can insert them just see how simliar files are installed12:42
gnomefreakand platform?12:42
asacin same directory (most likely)12:42
gnomefreak\brb phone12:42
asacyes ack ... same directory12:42
asacshow me how you modified before you spin12:42
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gnomefreakbut you wanted debian/firefox-trunk/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/application12:59
gnomefreak.ini12:59
gnomefreakand debian/firefox-trunk/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/platform.ini12:59
gnomefreakin the firefox-trunk install file12:59
gnomefreakasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/114886 those are the changes to firefox-trunk.install and the 2 patches01:05
asacgnomefreak: show me a diff01:13
asacmy eyes are tired ;)01:13
asacbut lets see01:13
asacgnomefreak: look closer01:14
asactry to compare what other lines in that file do01:14
asacyou miss something ;)01:14
gnomefreaktmp?01:14
asacfor instance ... but there is more01:14
gnomefreakth e-*01:14
asacno01:14
gnomefreakthe firefox-*01:14
asacor yes01:14
asacthat can be improved as well01:15
asacbut there is more01:15
gnomefreakspace01:15
gnomefreaklol01:15
asache?01:15
asacno01:15
gnomefreakdamn01:15
gnomefreakyou are talking about the install file right?01:15
asacyeah01:15
asacfirefox-trunk.install01:15
gnomefreakyes01:16
asacfor instance:01:16
asaccompare the line:01:16
asac#01:16
asacdebian/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-*/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm usr/share/firefox-trunk/chrome/icons/default/01:16
asac#01:16
asac (thats one line)01:16
asacwith01:16
asacdebian/firefox-trunk/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/application.ini01:16
asacyou see the difference?01:16
asacexcept the ones you already outlined01:16
asac(e.g. tmp + -* --- those are the ones you found)01:16
gnomefreakthe /usr/lib/firefox-trunk....01:17
asachey01:17
asacwhat does such a a line mean?01:17
asacany idea?01:17
asace.g.01:17
asacwhat does01:17
asacdebian/firefox-trunk.desktop usr/share/applications01:17
asacdo?01:17
gnomefreakit should install application.ini01:17
gnomefreakwhy the space?01:17
asacyeah ... thats the question01:18
asacjust consider how you would copy something :)01:18
gnomefreakwell debian/firefox.install will install applications.ini somewhere01:18
asactelling the computer: install application.ini will not bring you anywhere01:18
asacto computer needs more information01:18
gnomefreakin the /usr/lib dir01:18
asacdoes everything go into the usr/lib dir?01:19
gnomefreakno01:19
asacso?01:19
gnomefreakdepends on what it is01:19
asacno01:19
asacit depends on what you tell01:19
asacnot what it is01:19
asacyou have to tell where to install01:19
asacnaturally01:19
gnomefreakbut i tell it where depnding on what it is01:19
asacyeah ... but thats you .. not the computer ;)01:20
gnomefreakright01:20
gnomefreakso maybe it should look more like debian/tmp/firefox-trunk/application.ini /usr/lib/firefox-trunk/01:21
gnomefreaknotice space after ini01:21
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gnomefreakwhat a minute01:23
gnomefreakmozilla/toolkit/xre/ no this isnt right either01:24
gnomefreakmaybe /usr/bin since its a launching issue01:25
asac< gnomefreak> so maybe it should look more like debian/tmp/firefox-trunk/application.ini  /usr/lib/firefox-trunk/01:37
asacthats almost right01:37
asacand would probably work01:37
asacbut just keep the style like the other lines01:37
asacand drop the / from the beginning01:37
asacof the target folder01:37
asacgnomefreak: ^^01:37
gnomefreakk01:38
gnomefreaksame with the platform.ini i guess01:39
gnomefreakthats it ill try spinning it now01:40
gnomefreakand eat something01:40
gnomefreakbbl ill let you know what happens01:42
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asacgnomefreak: great01:43
gnomefreaki didnt need to re gen orig.tar?01:44
asacgnomefreak: what was the sunbird issue?01:44
asacmaybe something similar?01:44
asacgnomefreak: no01:44
asacorig is the same01:44
gnomefreaksunbird failed on xul?01:44
gnomefreaki dont remember off hand01:44
asaci cannot remember anymore01:44
asacit was something strange01:44
gnomefreakoh you got it to build dpkg-buildpacckage?01:45
gnomefreakand bzr was failing?01:45
asacno ... but running just make ... make install after it fails succeeds01:45
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asacwhich is completely strange01:45
gnomefreakah01:45
gnomefreakill be back in ~30 minutes if you still dont have it ill see if i can find it01:46
asacso i cannot really fix it ... because its not reproducible in mozilla build system01:46
asaccannot really see the issue01:46
asachard to figure out01:46
asacthere must be something obvious that i am missing01:46
gnomefreakmaybe ill run it in bzr again and give you errors in morning01:46
asacdon't need to01:46
gnomefreakah ok01:47
asacunless you figure a way out to make it succeed01:47
asac:)01:47
asacdon't think you will though ... but who knows :)01:47
gnomefreakyou never know i might get smart over night01:47
gnomefreak;)01:47
gnomefreakill be back01:47
asachehe ... i never said that01:47
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gnomefreakasac: is it possible the rules file is doing something the makefile.in doesnt like?02:16
gnomefreak^^^ sunbird02:16
asaconly thing that comes to my mind is some setting02:17
asacgnomefreak: the toolkit patch might be bad02:17
gnomefreakalready?02:17
gnomefreakjust made that02:17
asacyeah ... there was a nother bug02:19
asacwhich i oversaw02:19
asacbecause i didn't assume that benjamin would do such a bad error02:19
asacanyway02:19
asacwait a sec02:19
gnomefreakshould i kill build?02:20
asaci hand edited ... lets see  if it applies02:20
asacgnomefreak: yes02:20
gnomefreakkilled :)02:20
asaccurrently platform.ini is installed as a symlink02:20
asacit should be SYSINSTALL instead of INSTALL in install::02:20
asacwait a second02:20
gnomefreakah02:20
asachttp://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/ftbfs_toolkit_xre_Makefile_in02:21
gnomefreakhmmm looks like you just replaced the last line02:23
gnomefreakok lets try it now02:24
asacgnomefreak: i updated patch in bugzilla as well02:25
asachttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38686602:25
ubotuMozilla bug 386866 in Build Config "toolkit/xre/Makefile.in install:: target broken on trunk" [Normal,Assigned] 02:25
asacso change attachment url documented02:25
gnomefreakk02:25
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... you can try ... but don't forget to change documentation :)02:25
asacin the end02:25
gnomefreakin the end?02:25
gnomefreakthe line?02:25
asacno before you publish bzr02:26
asacand push sources to mt repo02:26
asacsources in repo are not that important02:26
asacmore important is bzr02:26
asacbecause i will merge your changes over to paradiso02:27
asacfor next milestone02:27
asacmost likely thats beta102:27
gnomefreakk02:28
gnomefreakERROR: Path(s) are not versioned: debian/patches/config_rules_install_dist_files02:38
gnomefreakwhat does not versioned mean?02:38
asacthat its not under revision control02:42
asacyou have to add files explicitily02:43
asacunder the revision control02:43
asacotherwise you would always take risk to commit lots of garbage stuff like binaries and things generated during build02:43
asacuse bzr add to do that02:43
asacgnomefreak: please do one checkin02:43
asacfor that patch02:43
asace.g. not together with other stuff02:43
gnomefreakk02:44
asacthis should be distinct so it can be merged over easily02:44
gnomefreaki can do the rest as 1 or everythiong separate?02:44
asacdon't know what the rest ist02:45
asacnever checkin changelog together with something else02:45
asaccheckin per feature you implement02:45
asackeep changelog and patches separate02:45
gnomefreakthe changelog the tollkit patch revised the .install file02:45
asactoolkit patch deserves single checkin02:46
asacsame for install02:46
asacso everything gets its own checkin02:46
asacand as last checkin changelog02:46
gnomefreakpushed02:55
gnomefreakill let you know (more than likely in morning) if pass fail or what not02:57
asack03:00
asacbtw we are in bug 1 because somebody claimed that firefox can contribute to that bug03:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103:01
asac:)03:01
asaci think he claimed that bug 1 can never be solved because firefox is so broken compared to windows ;)03:01
asacbut might have been just my imagination03:02
asaci only remember walther ;) who constantly raised the story that we ship trunk changes because he saw the same crash in ubuntu as on trunk ... but didn't see it in upstream tarball03:04
asacluckily ignoring him helped03:04
asache stopped to drop these comments to random crash bugs at some point03:04
asacBug 120811 is getting strange03:08
asacubotu: ?03:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120811 in firefox "firefox displays fonts smaller than it should have" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12081103:08
asacBug 12264803:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122648 in firefox "majority of bookmarks have dissappeared" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12264803:19
asacmakes me wonder how just a majority of bookmarks can disappear ... but not all?03:19
asacmaybe there are just a few missing03:20
asacand he deleted them by accident?03:20
asacok out03:35
asaccu tomorrow03:35
gnomefreakasac: im not here just wanted to let you know it fails to build binaies (it cant stat ./debian/tmp/firefox-trunk/application.ini anyway ill figure it out tomorrow. let me know when i get here in morning how yours did, its either the -trunk.install file or the patch(s)  good night05:53
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gnomefreakasac: im running build again on trunk cause i cant remember the error (im not fully awake either10:20
asacgnomefreak: that path is wrong10:42
asacfix it10:42
gnomefreakin the .install file?10:43
asacyes of course10:43
asacits obvious10:43
asacwhy would applicatiohn.ini be at that place?10:43
asacjust look in history ... or search for application.ini to see where it is10:44
asaci mean you definitly had it almost right10:44
asacand now you use something completely different10:45
asaclook at this again10:46
asachttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/1148810:46
gnomefreakcant its empty10:46
asacyou pointed out two issues ... and finally found the third one ... but then you just came up with a path that is completely different10:47
asacgnomefreak: the path you now use is wrong10:47
gnomefreaki took /usr/lib out of the first path10:47
asacyeah ... why?10:47
asachehe10:47
asacfix it10:47
gnomefreak19:37 <            asac > < gnomefreak> so maybe it should look more like  debian/tmp/firefox-trunk/application.ini  /usr/lib/firefox-trunk/10:47
gnomefreak19:37 <            asac > thats almost right10:47
gnomefreak19:37 <            asac > and would probably work10:47
asachey10:48
gnomefreakdebian/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/application.ini usr/lib/firefox-trunk/10:48
gnomefreakthat look better?10:48
asacjust think a bit :) ... and don't act as a bot ;)10:49
asacyes10:49
asacexcept that you can use -*10:49
asaclike everywhere else in that file10:49
asacthen its easier to reuse in paradiso for instance10:49
gnomefreakthere is quite a bit using firefox-trunk10:49
asacyeah i saw that10:50
asacanyway ... on the lefthand size10:50
asacits a mess that its not the same way on right hand size10:50
gnomefreakright10:50
asacbut ... if we want it on right hand size, then we need to maintain a proper .dirs file10:50
asacbecause otherwise dh_install has no idea what -* means10:50
gnomefreakwant me to correct them and commit it?10:51
asacjust correct the left hand size ... for consistency10:51
asacif that works ... you can play with what we can do on right size10:51
asaccool ... lets see if the coffee is ready :/10:53
asacgnomefreak: is there -* used anywhere on right hand side?11:05
asachmmm no its not11:05
gnomefreaki didnt see any11:05
asacyeah11:05
gnomefreakits still before coffee11:05
asacso lets finish build and then see11:05
asacyeah ... for me too11:06
asacno coff yet11:06
gnomefreakmines ready im just not sure if im gonna stay up or lay back down11:07
asachmm11:08
asacno idea ;)11:08
asacmines just finishing11:08
asacthough I just could swueeze about half litre out of the miserable rest of coffee powder i had11:08
asacand thats not much11:08
asacno lunch ... no chance to get new one ... because i need wireless hardware11:09
gnomefreakdamn he sounds unhappy with mozilla11:12
asacwho is he :)11:12
asac?11:12
gnomefreakmike11:12
asacmike hommey?11:12
asacnew blog entry?11:12
gnomefreakyeah11:12
asacyou have a link11:12
gnomefreaki will in a sec11:13
asacmy firefox bookmarks are broken ... so i have no rss atm11:13
gnomefreakhttp://web.glandium.org/blog/?p=14511:13
asachehe ... he is unhappy with epiphany et al11:14
gnomefreaklast update for gnash (did it include garbage collector?11:15
asacwe just had a respin11:15
asacnothing new11:16
asacbecause of libcurl went mad11:16
asacdebian upgraded to libcurl411:16
asacwe followed11:16
gnomefreakah11:16
asacnow debian returned to libcurl3 temporarily ... nobody here appears to read debian-devel-announce11:16
gnomefreaklol11:16
asacso people got panic and reverted to libcurl3 as well11:16
asacand respun 70 packges or so11:17
asaci found that out after prodding stevenk11:17
gnomefreaklibcurl3 wont even upgrade its blocked because noone respun the other packages11:17
asacon your system?11:17
gnomefreakyeah11:18
gnomefreaklibcurl3-gnutls11:18
asacthats not updated or what?11:21
asacso is gutsy state now broken?11:24
asacbecause of libcurl?11:24
asacor just respins missing?11:24
asacif you see packages that are holding this back, look if there has already been an upload ... otherwise prod stevenk11:25
gnomefreakubuntu-desktop and others need to be spun on it im assuming11:26
gnomefreakcurl is in the done section assuming that is the source package name but will find out in a sec11:28
gnomefreakyep11:28
asacubuntu-desktop is probably just waiting for something else11:29
asacas ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package11:29
gnomefreakOO.o is a huge one11:29
asacit should have no real opinion on what lib gets installed11:29
asacyeah11:29
asacits just wasted imo11:29
asacbut lets see11:29
gnomefreakits also waiting on libcurl4-gnutls11:30
gnomefreakpython-uno and lang pack11:30
gnomefreakmost are OO.o11:31
asacits really great that i have such a well thought out backup setup :)11:32
asaci could just11:32
asaccp -r /backup/hector\:home-asac-.mozilla/2007-07-01\@01\:24\:22/* ~/.mozilla/11:32
asacand now i have my bookmarks back11:32
asacyau11:32
gnomefreaki lost a few bookmarks on latest update for some reason like mozilla.pastebin and one or 2 others11:33
asachmm11:34
asacno idea11:34
asaci will now respin alpha5 in gutsy11:34
asacto see if the crashes come from firefox changes or mess in libcairo11:34
gnomefreakwhy alpha5?11:34
gnomefreakwho is fixing libcario? us?11:34
asacfirst i have to see if its firefox or libcairo that causes this mess11:35
asacthats why i spin alpha5 against latest cairo11:35
gnomefreakbetter not be firefox11:35
asacbecause alpha5 worked11:35
asacunfortunately we probably need to blame firefox until proved different... which is why i am doing this now11:36
gnomefreakk11:36
gnomefreakbrb coffee11:36
asacyeah11:37
asaccoffee is already constantly going down my throat11:37
gnomefreakgot mine had smoke11:45
asaccool11:47
asacIt also nice for me to see that you (a human) actually respond and not what11:47
asacI think was my expectation, that my 'report' would be answered by a11:47
asac'machine' and would disappear into the bottomless pit of some electronic11:47
asacsystem11:47
asacBug 12303211:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123032 in firefox "blender and firefox together send graphics crazy?" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12303211:47
asaci really think that ubuntu is probably better than any real company11:47
asacfrom where you usually never see a reply11:47
asacreal ... as in stupid ... ignorant11:48
gnomefreaklol11:49
gnomefreakim afraid that is a graphics card refresh issue11:51
gnomefreakatleast sounds like it11:51
gnomefreakand its closed anyway11:51
asacsure11:52
asaci just referred to the comment that he is happy that actually someone replied11:53
gnomefreakyep11:53
gnomefreakwhy would a bot answer :(11:53
asacbug 12389511:53
asacgnomefreak: have you ever submitted a bug to ms?11:53
asacor somewhere else?11:54
asacubotu: wake up11:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123895 in firefox "[GUTSY]  firefox crashed [@IA__g_logv]  [@IA__g_log]  [@gdk_x_error]  (dup-of: 122858)" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12389511:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122858 in firefox "[gutsy]  firefox crash on a _XError" [High,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12285811:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wake up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
gnomefreakMS? please tell me not microsoft11:54
asacyeah11:54
asacbug 12294911:54
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 122949 in gnome-session "Tray icons take a LONG time to appear with compiz enabled" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12294911:54
gnomefreaknope11:54
asacms is always ms :)11:54
asaci would say that its rare that you get any response as an end-user for most software11:55
gnomefreaki report whatever came up on the crash dialogs other than that nope11:56
asacyea11:58
persiaI've broken firefox ubuntu3 session restoration again, if anyone has time (sorry for the delay).11:58
asacpersia: did it ever work in the meantime?11:59
asaci mean ... i thought you didn't figure out why homepage was set bad?11:59
asacor do you mean s/again/still/ ?11:59
persiaasac: Not with the combination of ubuntu3 and my old session.  New sessions worked (after deleting all of .mozilla/12:00
asacwhat do you see in javascript console?12:00
persiaasac: I reverted to ubuntu2 to get things done in the meantime.12:00
persiaasac: The same: "Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIStringBundle.GetStringFromName] "  nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/browser.js :: anonymous :: line 3890"  data: no] "12:01
persia(with no link)12:01
asacpersia: its again the same12:01
asachomepage preference points to nirvana12:01
persiaasac: Yes.  firefox & ubufox are both installed.  The session doesn't restore, and new sessions are not defined.  This is a result of something about my .mozilla (works with a clean .mozilla), but is an upgrade issue for me.12:02
asacso did you get to that state after deleting .mozilla?12:02
persiaasac: homepage preference points to resource:/browserconfig.properties12:02
asacor is it still with the *broken* one?12:02
asacis ubufox displayed as being properly installed in add-on dialog?12:03
persiaasac: I can only reproduce with the broken one.  I'm just not sure how it became broken.12:03
gnomefreaki broke it :P12:03
asacbut the broken one is the original broken one ... or did the new one broke again?12:03
persiaasac: No.  ubufox doesn't install (even after repeated restarts).12:03
persiaasac: The original broken one.12:03
asacpersia: then the issue is clear ... ubufox has still problems for you12:03
asacto install12:04
persiaasac: Exactly :)12:04
asacplease give me ls -la of your profiles extensions directory12:04
asacpersia: at best do a12:04
asacfind .mozilla | xargs ls -lad | tee /tmp/log12:04
asacand paste log somewhere12:04
asacmaybe there are other places where permissions are messed up12:05
persiaasac: extensions are listed at http://pastebin.ca/60412512:05
asacok ... give me the full find12:06
asac(or take a look first if you see anything obvious)12:06
persiaasac: I'm still hunting a fire relay service - post it in a bit.12:07
asacnp12:08
persiaasac: It's supposed to be downloadable from http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/190823/mozilla-find.html (sorry for the ads), but epiphany isn't helping me...12:13
asacwhere can i download on it12:15
asac?12:15
asacpersia: maybe you can paste?12:15
asacpersia: there is loads of stuff in your .mozilla/firefox/ck1ch5j9.default/extensions/staged-xpis12:18
asacwhich means that other extensions are not installed properly as well?12:18
asacpersia: at best start in -safe-mode and try to uninstall all extensions12:19
asacand see if staged-xpi vanishes at some point12:19
persiaasac: I thnk 604136 is all of it, but I may have missed or duplicated a couple lines.12:19
asache? what is 604136?12:19
persiaasac: So, `firefox --safe-mode`, disable extensions from Tools, Add-Ons, and restart?12:20
persiaasac: Um.  Sorry.  Failed copy & paste: http://pastebin.ca/60413612:20
asacno ... i mean uninstall12:20
asacyou really need to clean things up12:20
persiaasac: uninstall from where?12:20
asacyou can also try to move the staged-xpi somewhere else12:20
asacfrom addons dialog12:20
asacand hope that the staged-xpi is also emptied12:20
persiaasac: OK.  Trying now.12:21
persiaasac: When starting safe-mode, I'm disabling add-ons before uninstalling them.12:21
persiaasac: The extensions that "will be installed when Firefox is restarted" cannot be uninstalled from that dialog.12:22
asacyeah12:22
asacwhich ones are those?12:23
asace.g. just ubufox ... or are there others that have pending installation?12:23
persiaasac: Beagle Indexer (from the repositories), DOM Inspector (from the repositories), FireGPG (upstream), Google Notebook (upstream), Image Zoom (from the repositories), and ubufox (from the repositories).12:24
asacif all this doesn't work ... lets go the hard way12:24
asac1. uninstall ubufox package12:24
persiaasac: hard way?12:24
asacyeah12:24
asacor lets do it different12:24
asac1. rm -r the xpi-staged folder12:25
asacand the Extensions.rdf in your profile12:25
asac(while firefox is closed obviously)12:25
asacthen start firefox12:25
persiaasac: OK.  Just to clarify: I'm not worried so much about my unique situation as about upgrade headaches for others, so I'd like to stick to something that works for release notes.12:25
asacfor release notes this is not suitable ... almost noone else should have had permission problems in his profile12:26
asacand this is probably the aftermath of that12:26
persiaOK.  Firefox closed.  Where is xpi-staged?12:26
asacin your profile folder somewhere12:26
persiaasac: Why not?  I've never run X as root, nor made any manual changes to .mozilla?12:26
asac.mozilla/firefox/ck1ch5j9.d12:26
asacefault/extensions/staged-xpis12:26
persiaasac: Thanks.  "extensions" was the part I needed.12:27
gnomefreakhmmmmm wonder whats gonna be new name for gmail :(12:27
asacpersia: noone can tell ... maybe you had an extension installed that was ignorant about the fact that permissions might matter12:27
asac(windows only authors)12:27
asachowever ... firefox alone will not mess with permissions12:27
asacthere is Extensions.rdf as well12:27
asacremove that as well before restart12:27
persiaasac: Perhaps.  But the only upstreams I ever had were Google Notebook and FireGPG, both of which were declared working for linux before installation.12:27
asacyeah ... the other option would be that you have bad blocks on your disk12:28
asacfirefox doesn't create anything read only12:28
asacthat is sure12:28
persiaasac: I really don't think it's bad blocks :)12:28
persiaasac: OK.  staged-xpi & extensions.rdf removed.12:29
asacyeah ... start again12:29
asacand look how extensions dialog look like12:29
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persiaasac: Session works, all add-ons are installed except Google Notebook.12:31
asacwhat is with google notebook?12:32
persiagnomefreak: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org/ and http://www.google.com/notebook12:32
asacis it gone?12:32
gnomefreakpersia: ty12:32
asacor does it refuse to install?12:32
persiaasac: No, it just will be reinstalled when firefox is restarted (as before).  Perhaps there's an update, as the notebook widget is working.12:32
asacdid you see anything during startup?12:33
persiaasac: So, does that confirm for you that my problem was upstream extensions, and as such a user issue?  Is there any way the package could work around it?12:33
asace.g. like notebook is updated?12:33
persiaasac: No, no notice.12:34
asacpersia: only thing we can do ... and are planning to do is blocking bad extensions12:34
asacif google notebook is broken we have to block it12:34
asacbut i would like to look at it first12:34
asacbut please confirm that its really broken12:34
persiaasac: Hmm..  It works for me, but it may have been the cause.  Take a look :)12:34
asacis staged-xpi there again?12:34
persiaasac: Let me restart firefox, and see what happens...12:34
asacyes12:34
asaci will take a look once it becomes obvious that notebook is really the problem12:35
persiaasac: notebook installed cleanly on restart.12:36
asacnow every extension is installed properly?12:36
persiaasac: I'm guessing then that somehow the staged-xpis got confused in the transition?12:36
asacno ... the staged-xpi probably existed long time before12:37
asacbut you didn't notice12:37
persiaasac: Yes.  Every extension is installed properly, and session restoration is working.12:37
asacanyway ... we have to at least try something12:37
asace.g. firefox should clean the mess up ... at least if the permissions are correct again)12:37
persiaasac: OK.  I can restore the broken any time, and would be happy to test.  Especially that I now have a workaround :)12:37
asacsure12:37
asacplease do12:37
asacexport NSPR_LOG_MODULES=ALL:512:38
persiaasac: OK.  Restoring brokenness...12:38
asacfirefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/firefox.log12:38
asacwith broken profile12:38
asac(but please fix permissions first)12:38
asacthe permissions problem we cannot track down because we don't know when it happened12:38
persiaBy the way, the close multiple tabs warning is annoying when using File...Quit to save the session.12:38
asacbut at least we can figure out why firefox refuses to finish his staged-xpis even though permissions are ok12:39
persiaasac: Right.  I'm not worried about why it happened, so much as finding a way to upgrade cleanly, if it happened.12:39
asacif the permissions are broken ... we cannot do a thing12:39
persiaasac: OK.  Broken again.12:39
asacanyway ... xpi-staged should work once permissions are correct12:39
asacok run chmod -R u+rw  .mozilla12:39
persiaI'm not sure it's permissions.  Let me look at staged-xpi again (I think the read-only stuff was in another directory)12:40
asacwe already fouidn that permissions are broken for you :)12:40
asacread-only stuff in profile will cause hazards12:40
asaciirc it was in extensions directory12:40
asac(e.g. the broken permissions)12:40
persiaasac: No.  Extensions is all writable here.  Anyway, exporting NSPR...12:40
asacpersia: ok maybe you tarred the fixed permissions folder then12:43
persiaasac: OK.  I have 2375 lines in /tmp/firefox.log.  Any specific section you're looking for?12:43
asacotherwise please run the find from above as well12:43
asacpersia: no ... just upload it somewhere12:43
persiaasac: hmmm....12:43
asacor send it by mail ... to asac@jwsdot.com12:43
persiaasac: Right.  My mistake.  The read-only stuff is all google notebook chrome (but changing it doesn't appear to be required to make firefox work again)12:48
asacok ... so fix the permissions of google notebook chrome folder recursively and produce a log again12:50
asace.g. so i can see why xpi-staged isn't finalized12:51
persiaasac: I'll do so, but I'm not sure it will make a difference...12:51
asacit will not ... which is why i want the log12:52
asaci don't want to investigate the permissions problem ... but the xpi-staged mechanism12:52
asacand with broken permissions there is no point that xpi-staged can succeed12:52
persiaasac: Updated log sent.  The reason I think it doesn't matter is that everything installed cleanly after a restart when xpi-staged and extensions.rdf was deleted, despite the permissions.12:54
asacno ... when we did that ... everything globally got updated ... everything else just stayed the same as you already installed12:56
asac... so nothing was really installed12:56
asace.g. "hat everything installed cleanly" ... is not the case12:56
asacwe removed the "install job" by removing the staged folder12:56
asacgetting coffee ... then looking at mail12:57
persiaasac: Ah, but in the specific case of Google Notebook (wherein the permissions issue lies), I stil received the "will be installed on restart" notice, and it was.  Anyway, it doesn't matter, as we don't support Google Notebook.12:57
asacyes ... but that is exactly what i wnat to investigate ... why does firefox not install it even though permissions are fixed12:59
persiaasac: I understand now.  Sorry - it was your intent I was missing :)01:00
asacsure01:00
asacanyway ... the log isn't helpful ... i would need to look at code01:00
persiaasac: OK.  Let me know if there's anything I can do.  I'll be restoring a working session, but can get back to this state whenever you need.01:01
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asacbest persia thanks01:02
gnomefreaklooking good :)01:10
gnomefreakatleast ran plugin check01:10
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrr fuck cario01:11
asacgnomefreak: what are you talking about?01:11
asacgnomefreak: does it crash when you shutdown?01:11
gnomefreakit trunk crashes01:11
gnomefreakit never opens01:11
asacah01:11
asacbut sometimes it does01:11
gnomefreakit checked for plugins01:11
asacplease open from console01:11
gnomefreakand crashed after that01:11
gnomefreaki ran it from console01:12
asacwhat did you get?01:12
gnomefreakfirefox-trunk-bin: /build/buildd/libcairo-1.4.2/src/cairo-hash.c:196: _cairo_hash_table_destroy: Assertion `hash_table->live_entries == 0' failed.01:12
gnomefreakAborted (core dumped)01:12
gnomefreakhence the fuck cario comment01:12
asacyeah01:12
asacok let me see if alpha5 has same issue01:12
asacshould have finished by now01:12
asachmm appears to be granparadiso then01:15
asacalpha5 doesn't have the problem01:15
gnomefreakits an alpha6 issue01:16
gnomefreakalpha5 worked fine01:16
gnomefreakhmmmmmm01:18
gnomefreakthe more i think about it its a mozilla upstream issue01:26
gnomefreak2.0.0.4 works fine with libcario on feisty and gutsy (atleast here it does)01:27
gnomefreak!info libcario feisty01:30
ubotuPackage libcario does not exist in feisty01:30
gnomefreak!info libcairo feisty01:31
ubotuPackage libcairo does not exist in feisty01:31
asacgnomefreak: can you produce a trunk tarball from 1st july?01:32
asacwhat tarball are we currently using?01:32
gnomefreak2007070301:32
gnomefreakill try01:33
asacok01:33
asacgnomefreak: do you still have older builds?01:34
asacif so ... which dates?01:34
gnomefreakon the repo i have 20070628 i think01:34
gnomefreakits either 22 or 2801:34
asacanything else?01:36
asacanyway ... try if the problem is already in there please01:36
gnomefreakno i dropped them yesterday01:36
asacso we can narrow it down01:37
asacok in future lets keep trunk builds for a longer time :)01:37
gnomefreakin the 20070701?01:37
asacno ... try the one you have01:38
asac062801:38
gnomefreakthere were 4 builds on there01:38
asacyou won't need to produce a tarball from that date if its already in there01:38
asacthen we have to step back and create one week before + two weeks before01:39
asace.g. in case the cairo issue is already in 062801:39
gnomefreakwhy am i making tarball for 20070701 if you want me to build 28?01:41
asacno ... you should try 28 ... as you said you have it already build01:42
asacjust test if the crash is already in there01:42
asacyou have 0628 in repo (just looked) ... please test if the crash is in there01:43
gnomefreakasac: it wasnt as i was using it before the other day01:43
asacplease test again ... just to be sure01:44
asacit might pop up with recent cairo too01:44
asacso lets see if it still doesn't crash01:44
asaci just see lots of checkins that might be related ... and want to track down which checkin caused this pain for us01:44
asacand since you already have 0628 its worth to test01:44
asacin case it really crashes we have to go back a week instead of trying 070101:45
asacgnomefreak: can you try 0628 once more?01:46
gnomefreakim trying to01:46
asaccool01:47
asacif it really doesn't crash then I am probably able to find the cause pretty fast01:47
asacgnomefreak: you are on gutsy?01:50
gnomefreakyes but testing on feisty01:50
asacor feisty?01:50
asacfeisty doesn't have new libcairo01:50
gnomefreaki dont have build for gutsy01:51
gnomefreakyou would have to give me ~4-5 hours if you want me to test on gutsy (we never made -trunk for gutsy because we ave granparadiso01:51
asachmmm why do we build trunk in feisty?01:51
asaci mean feisty is more ment to be kind of backport repo, right?01:52
asacgnomefreak: can we push -paradiso to feisty ... and do trunk builds on gutsy?01:52
gnomefreakasac: 1. it was the first build we had 2. its updated alot more regularly than granparadiso01:52
asaci think that makes more sense01:52
gnomefreakasac: there already01:52
gnomefreakwe cant have trunk and granparadiso together01:52
asac-granparadiso is in official gutsy repo01:53
gnomefreakwe do with feisty mt repo (shouldnt but you wanted bother there01:53
asacso we don't need it in mt01:53
asacfor gutsy01:53
gnomefreakyou told me to build granparadiso for MT repo01:53
gnomefreakknowing we had trunk there already01:53
asacyeah ... thats correct ... its a backport for feisty01:53
asacwhich is in line if we now define feisty repo a backport01:54
asacarchive ... and testing repo in case we want to do an sru for feisty01:54
asacactually its my fault then ... just wonder if we can realign how we can use the mt repos a bit01:54
gnomefreakwe have 0 use for trunk on gutsy as people are not gonna beable to have trunk and granparadiso together (i dont think or atleast dont see why)01:55
asace.g. use feisty mt for backports from what is in official gutsy and for pre-testing SRUs01:55
asacgnomefreak: they can have it together01:55
asacgnomefreak: they are indpendent packages01:55
asacyou can install next to each other01:55
asacotherwise its a bug which i should fix01:55
gnomefreaksame menu icon same name01:55
gnomefreakboth will say firefox (development version)( in menu01:55
asacyeah ... then we should change the name in manu01:55
asacbut its not really a blocker01:56
gnomefreakthis is gonna bea bitch to do you know this right?01:56
asacbut i agree that that needs to be fixed01:56
asacwhy=01:56
asacwhy?01:56
gnomefreakasac: the changes we made and pushed will not work in 2801:57
asacyeah ... you can just use the same bzr revision01:57
asacyou used to build01:57
asace.g. you can say bzr branch -r REVNO http:/....01:57
asacto branch a certain revision01:57
gnomefreakah ok01:57
asacjust use the revision you built it for feisty01:57
asacgnomefreak: you could even use apt-get source for this build01:58
asacgnomefreak: anyway01:58
asacgnomefreak: i will try to track down01:58
asacif you can concentrate in getting gutsy repo up where we can provide weekly trunks in future01:58
asac(and keep them so we can hunt down time window when regressions happened)01:59
asacgnomefreak: so just concentrate on future ;) ... i will do the spins for 062801:59
asacand test here01:59
gnomefreakmake up your mind please01:59
gnomefreak;)01:59
asacok?01:59
asacwhat ?01:59
gnomefreakasac: you want to build it or me?01:59
asaci will build the 0628 ... so you are free to setup gutsy repo :)02:00
gnomefreakk02:00
asacor do something else ;)02:00
gnomefreakyou need to work on sunbird and push nspluginwrapper or fix it thasn push it02:00
asacbut having regular trunk gutsy builds is worth its weight in gold02:01
asacyeah ... sunbird is in queue i will look at it latest tomorrow02:01
asacwhy do i need to push nspluginwrapper?02:01
asaci don't have that in my TODOs so far02:01
gnomefreakyou havent pushed the merged version yet02:02
gnomefreakso either its borked or you got caught up with other things02:02
asacah your debdiff?02:03
asacdo you have bug?02:03
gnomefreaki think so02:05
gnomefreakbug 12353302:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123533 in nspluginwrapper "nspluginwrapper merge new debian version" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12353302:06
gnomefreakcan you mark it fix released if its all good02:06
gnomefreakthan all i have to do is watch it so i can rm the 2 dir. i have for it once i know its safe02:07
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gnomefreakbrb can test n-m update we just had02:09
asacbug 12377202:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123772 in network-manager "network-manager-applet no longer produces/provides usr/bin/nm-vpn-properties" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12377202:12
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gnomefreakdamn its still broken02:16
asacunless you use vpn ... there is not way it should have cured you02:17
asacok i got to go and get wifi hardware now02:17
asacbe back asap02:17
gnomefreakthere gutsy repo is ready as soon as packages land there02:29
DarkMageZis there any reason why the patches related to mozilla bug #137189 which were applied (according to bonsai) 3 days ago wouldn't be applied to mozilla's trunk build :s02:35
ubotuMozilla bug 137189 in Plug-ins "Windowless plug-in support for X (WMODE)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13718902:35
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: for ff3?02:41
gnomefreakand yes they changed alot fo things02:41
DarkMageZnot ff3. but trunk.02:42
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: its the same02:42
gnomefreakmaybe trunk 2.0.0.5 but i doubt that has gotten anywhere02:43
DarkMageZso short of rebuilding firefox. which prebuilt versions should have those patches :s02:43
gnomefreaki wish tehre was someplace i can send people to buy a clue02:52
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: if the patches were applie upstream they would have added it to source not separate patches in debian/patches only the upstream changelogs can tell you what they did or see irc.mozilla.org #mozilla they might beablet o tell you what happened03:01
gnomefreakok im gone for a while03:03
DarkMageZi was refering to the mozilla builds. not the debian/ubuntu builds.03:07
gnomefreaki know thats why i stated it would have been applied to source you wouldnt see a patch03:08
gnomefreak-wouldnt + you might but unlikely03:08
DarkMageZi should still beable to see the end result of the patches if they work tho... hmm.03:09
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DarkSun88Hi all03:16
asacnow lets pray that this works :/03:48
asacdamn it just worked03:50
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bluekujaback05:41
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gnomefreakasac: did you upload to gutsy repo?08:14
gnomefreakheading to store, asac when you get time the gutsy MT repo is ready just upload to it and ill regen the files when i get back. later08:30
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asacgnomefreak: ok09:22
asacgnomefreak: please tell me about what i forgot todo with nspluginwrapper ... there was a debdiff by you, right?09:23
bluekujaheya asac10:17
bluekuja:)10:17
bluekujaunfortunately I can reproduce it10:17
bluekujaand I'm working on a fix10:17
asacbluekuja: sorry lost context10:20
asac.... devel meeting atm10:20
bluekujaasac: diff-ext crash10:21
bluekuja:)10:21
asacah10:21
asacyeah10:21
asacget a backtrace10:21
asacor is there already one submitted?10:22
bluekujammm...10:22
bluekujawe cant call it a proper traceback10:22
bluekujahttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=431754+10:23
ubotuDebian bug 431754 in diff-ext "diff-ext: Invalid memory reference" [Critical,Open] 10:23
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Admiral_Chicagohappy hug day everyone10:44
bluekujatnx10:44
bluekuja:)10:44
gnomefreakasac: the debdiff on the bug that is the merged debdiff. not real sure what debdiff is for maybe its applied to source and than uploaded?10:46
asacgive me bug id please10:47
bluekujagnomefreak,10:47
bluekujadebdiff10:47
bluekujais applied to debian revision10:47
bluekujafor merges10:48
bluekujaif ok10:48
bluekujait gets built10:48
gnomefreakasac: bug 12353310:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123533 in nspluginwrapper "nspluginwrapper merge new debian version" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12353310:48
bluekujaand then uploaded10:48
gnomefreakty bluekuja :)10:48
bluekuja:)10:48
bluekujathat's the main goal10:49
bluekujayou need to search for10:49
bluekuja:)10:49
bluekujae.g if it does not apply, it's really bad10:49
bluekujasomething broken around10:49
gnomefreakwell everything but binary build worked here10:50
gnomefreakso it should be good he looked at it said its good10:50
gnomefreaki guess next week is sprint10:53
asacola10:54
asacso meeting is over10:54
asacbluekuja: reviews will be reorganized10:54
asacmost likey, someone takes the lead and assigns to developers instead of random people grabbing those10:55
gnomefreakoh son of a bitch why does this keep coming back and biting us in the ass10:57
gnomefreakgtk must only have filepicker widget10:58
gnomefreakasac: the tbird crash while trying to add a cert to tbird (they say it might be caused by the filepicker widget (iirc this is what caused alot of the feisty firefox crashes)10:59
bluekujaasac: it rocks!10:59
bluekujathat's a nice thing10:59
bluekujaasac: who leads?11:00
bluekujae.g who assign reviews11:01
asaci think dholbach for now11:01
bluekujaso he takes care of every merge, and assigns them11:01
bluekujacool11:01
bluekujahe will have a lot of work11:01
bluekujathen11:02
asacall people of distro team members who are core-devs will be part of initial team11:02
bluekujayeah11:02
bluekujaso you too11:02
bluekuja:)11:02
asacyeah11:02
bluekujaso you can assign stuff to my sponsors11:02
bluekujaor do it too11:03
bluekujaas well11:03
asacbut people will be send to different sponsors for each upload ... to the benefit of sponsors and sponsoree11:03
bluekujaoh11:03
bluekujak11:03
bluekuja^^11:03
bluekujaonly U-U-S ppl?11:04
bluekujawill receive assignes11:04
bluekuja?11:04
asacno ... only members of the new teams ... maybe that will be u-m-s and u-u-s ... but those teams would need to be restructured11:04
bluekujaoh nice11:05
asacmy feeling is that we will end up with a new team11:05
bluekuja^^11:05
asacat least that was dholbachs idea about this ... however its currently discussed11:05
asacbecause its unclear what will happen to the old sponsor teams then11:05
bluekujayup11:05
bluekujawe will kno11:06
bluekujathen11:06
bluekuja:)11:06
asacright11:06
bluekujaI'm damn tired11:06
bluekuja:/11:06
bluekujawent home too late yesterday and woke up too soon11:06
bluekuja:/11:06
bluekujaasac: going to sleep then11:07
bluekujacu tomorrow11:07
bluekujahave fun11:07
bluekujaand sleep well11:07
bluekuja:)11:07
asaccu11:08
asacwill be travelling anyway in a few11:08
bluekujawhere?11:08
asacto my secondary home :)11:08
bluekujaoooh11:08
bluekujain germany as well?11:08
asacyes11:08
bluekujaor another country11:08
asacwith gf11:08
bluekujaoh coo11:08
bluekuja:D11:09
bluekujamove definitely11:09
bluekujaor holiday?11:09
asacno ... just for a few days11:09
bluekujanice11:09
asacsaturday back .. sunday flight to london11:09
bluekujayou gonna be off?11:09
asacnext week sprint11:09
asactomorrow i will work11:09
asacas usual11:09
bluekujathen weekend11:09
asacmost likely in the evening going out though ;)11:09
bluekujalol11:09
bluekujasame11:09
bluekujaparty11:10
Admiral_Chicagoasac: how do you share the code you push?11:10
Admiral_Chicagoa bzr branch no?11:10
asaci will not be as responsive next week11:10
bluekujaAdmiral_Chicago, yes11:10
asacmaybe even completely unreponsive11:10
asacfor some time11:10
bluekujaaww11:10
asacas sprint will probably be hard and lots of work we have to squeeze into that tiny week11:10
asacAdmiral_Chicago: yes bzr ... everything is bzr11:10
bluekujaif there are some mails, I gonna bounce them11:10
bluekujato you11:10
bluekujaas we did11:10
asac... except mobile browser i have git too atm11:10
Admiral_Chicagowell, i'm trying to upload some code for review.11:10
Admiral_Chicagoand the LP stuff is a bit complicated11:11
asachmm11:11
asacwhats the point11:11
bluekujaI go11:11
gnomefreakasac: what revo did you use for trunk to build?11:11
bluekuja!11:11
asacyou upload your private branch11:11
bluekujacya tomorrow11:11
asacand ask branch maintainer to pull in changes11:11
Admiral_Chicagoasac: no, i mean registering the branch11:11
asacgnomefreak: for which build? ... the build that is not yet finished?11:11
asac:)11:11
asacAdmiral_Chicago: its simple ... just push11:11
gnomefreakoh i thought you finsihed11:11
asacthen its registred11:11
asacyeah i hoped to as well11:12
gnomefreakfinished11:12
asacfought with wifi all afternoon11:12
Admiral_Chicagoasac: just push?11:12
gnomefreakasac: what else do we want in this repo?11:12
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: commit than push11:12
asaci am just too old to do all this high-tech stuff ... hey wait :)11:12
asacgnomefreak: for now we want firefox-trunk11:12
Admiral_Chicagookay. what?11:12
asacjust11:12
Admiral_Chicagosorry, I'm new to this11:12
gnomefreakis that all you wanted in it?11:12
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: did you make the branch already?11:12
Admiral_Chicagono11:13
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: ok what package?11:13
asacbzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~admiral_chic..../<projectname>/<branchname>11:13
asacsorry11:13
gnomefreakyeah that after you cd debian commit11:13
Admiral_Chicagookay asac  i see11:13
asacsftp://$USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~admiral_chic..../<projectname>/<branchname>11:13
gnomefreakits code11:13
gnomefreakoh yeah user11:13
Admiral_Chicagobut i don't have a project name, or branch name11:13
asacAdmiral_Chicago: projectname and branchname should probably be the same than the one you try to improve11:14
asacyou don't11:14
asac?11:14
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: what is it? a patch11:14
Admiral_Chicagoasac: this branch is for sharing my packaging expirements11:14
asacAdmiral_Chicago: what is that?11:14
Admiral_Chicagofor a package thats not in Ubuntu11:14
asacjust example packages?11:14
Admiral_Chicagowell, i'm trying to learn to package11:15
asacAdmiral_Chicago: everybody is free to create his personal project in launchpad11:15
Admiral_Chicagoyea, let me try that...11:15
asacyou can name it like you want ...11:15
asaclike admiral package playground :)11:15
asacdon't know if code in launchpad has to be free software though?11:16
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: here are some examples (you dont want to use mozillateam you want to use your LP id https://code.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/11:16
asacbetter license it freely ;)11:16
asacgnomefreak: i think he already understood11:16
Admiral_Chicagoalways so11:17
gnomefreaksory faling behind11:17
gnomefreakdamn 1 out of 3 sucks11:17
asacAdmiral_Chicago: then you can use whatever branchname you like11:17
Admiral_Chicagookay, i'm going to try this out11:17
asacAdmiral_Chicago: if you want to package11:17
Admiral_Chicagoi can just do /admiralpackageplayground/thinkfinger11:17
asacthere are three approaches11:17
Admiral_Chicagoand call it thinkdfinger11:17
asacjust debian dir11:17
asacand upstream branch that tracks pure upstream code11:18
asacand a debian/ubuntu branch that is branched from that11:18
asacAdmiral_Chicago: yeah ... think about the name11:18
asac:)11:18
asacyou can also name it11:18
Admiral_Chicagoi like the name, i'm using it11:18
asacchicagosandbox11:18
asacok11:19
asac:)11:19
asaci am out ... cu tomorrow11:19
gnomefreaknight11:19
asacnight all11:19
Admiral_Chicagothanks asac11:19
gnomefreaknight11:19
gnomefreakoops i did already type that11:20
=== gnomefreak braindead atm
asacgnomefreak: hehe11:20
asacAdmiral_Chicago: np11:20
Admiral_Chicagoits online11:49
Admiral_Chicagohttps://code.launchpad.net/~freddymartinez9/+junk/main11:49
Admiral_Chicagomy packaging efforts so far11:49

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