[01:06] <MenZa> win move down
[01:58] <ci_omegadog> God i've tried everything
[01:59] <ci_omegadog> everything to get sqlite3.4 installed on dapper in a sane fashion
[01:59] <ci_omegadog> all day
[01:59] <ci_omegadog> MY WHOLE DAY GONE!
[01:59] <ci_omegadog> i never understood the point of a 6 month release cycle
[01:59] <ci_omegadog> just upgrade what you want when you want
[01:59] <ci_omegadog> NOW I GET IT
[02:08] <leonel> I think there are newer things  that must be used   as  antivirus  antispam  and thinks like that 
[02:08] <leonel> and  stable ( unchanged ) things  as  databases that  must remain  for  years 
[02:54] <AlexC_> Hey guys,
[02:56] <AlexC_> Is anyone interested in helping out an open-source project that is to be shortly released, basically the project is hosted on Dreamhost but I'm wanting to move over to a VPS account - I know how to setup a server, however I simply don't have the time and also I don't truely know how to secure one
[02:56] <AlexC_> I should be able to pay (but not much) for things that need doing if you're interested
[04:01] <shawarma> -win 21
[04:01] <shawarma> ffs
[04:40] <mralphabet> 21! sheesh, I thought 15 was a lot
[05:58] <TeTeT> is there any good tool to replicate an Ubuntu production environment on a development environment? Let's say I deploy 5 servers and I want to create a test environment to make sure the next upgrade works fine. What are my options?
[06:02] <TeTeT> I can think of ghosting with g4l, using systemimager or rsync plain to replicate it. Any other recommendation?
[06:10] <shawarma> Test: Bug 12345
[06:11] <shawarma> Hmm...
[06:15] <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer.enabled True
[06:15] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[06:15] <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True
[06:15] <ubotu> OK
[06:15] <Seveas> there we go
[06:16] <shawarma> testing again.... bug 12345
[06:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345
[06:16] <shawarma> \o/
[06:16] <shawarma> yay
[06:16] <shawarma> Seveas: Thanks!
[06:17] <shawarma> mralphabet: Kidding? I usually have up to about 90.
[06:18] <mralphabet> shawarma: crimeny
[07:49] <nealmcb> ubotu, info krb5-kdc
[07:49] <ubotu> krb5-kdc: MIT Kerberos key server (KDC). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-5ubuntu3.1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 392 kB
[07:49] <nealmcb> !lamp
[07:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:50] <nealmcb> Seveas: yes - ubotu is sweet!
[07:50] <nealmcb> !ubotu
[07:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:59] <highX|Humpy> Hi
[08:01] <cchance> I have a little problem here while trying to install the alternet CD version of Ubuntu 7.04 server. For some reason while installing (in low memory mode) It stops and loops its self at the detecting Network hardware box, sits for 2-5 seconds and then displays "killeding hardware, please wait" apart from "detecting Hardware, Please wait"   Anyone else have this problem, is there a fix for it?
[08:03] <highX|Humpy> I have an extremely stupid question, is there a GUI you can turn on for Ubuntu Server 6.06 LTS
[08:03] <cchance> yes
[08:03] <cchance> install Gnome
[08:03] <highX|Humpy> really?
[08:03] <highX|Humpy> gnome>
[08:03] <cchance> or what ever Gui you like
[08:04] <peanutb> or theres alwayse webmin, but its not the most secure of things
[08:05] <cchance> does no one know any answer to my question?
[08:07] <highX|Humpy> sorry I do not know
[08:07] <highX|Humpy> is this something I have to install or is it already a part of my server edition?
[08:08] <cchance> i really dont want to use DSL on my box
[08:08] <cchance> its not suported anywhere except for #dsl and no one there is any help at all
[08:10] <cchance> are you guy going to force me to do it?
[08:10] <mralphabet> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <mralphabet> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <mralphabet> ^^ xfce
[08:11] <cchance> ok, dsl here i come
[08:11] <mralphabet> cchance: look in launchpad for bugs relating
[08:31] <cchance> i know thers not
[08:40] <Humpy> hrmnm
[08:40] <Humpy> so I ran run sudo apt-get update 
[08:40] <Humpy> and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <Humpy> but get package not found
[08:40] <Humpy> so obviosuly I need to get the package
[08:43] <Humpy> so to get the package is this what I want?
[08:43] <Humpy> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <Humpy> no one is still alive
[08:50] <Humpy> ?
[08:55] <mralphabet> Humpy: hrm, let's look at packages.ubuntu.com to see what valid packages there are
[08:57] <mralphabet> Humpy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/virtual/gnome-desktop
[08:57] <Humpy> okay
[08:58] <mralphabet> whoops, that's breezy
[08:58] <mralphabet> you need dapper, right?
[08:58] <Humpy> Maybe/
[08:58] <Humpy> I am brand new
[08:58] <Humpy> like I jsut installed the LTS version and am trying to learn it
[08:58] <mralphabet> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/virtual/gnome-desktop
[08:58] <Humpy> never used a linus server before
[08:58] <mralphabet> so that would be sudo apt get install gnome-desktop
[08:59] <mralphabet> using the gui is a poor way to learn
[08:59] <mralphabet> that's my personal opinion
[08:59] <Humpy> I agree, but I have others that will be using the server as well that would like the GUI
[08:59] <Humpy> slow to learn using the GUI
[09:02] <Humpy> I am still getting the package not found
[09:03] <perrygovier> hey! someone else having apt-get issues?
[09:03] <Humpy> mine might be user error?
[09:04] <perrygovier> i see, i'm trying to install a desktop but i keep getting a not found error for ubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <Humpy> sudo get-apt update works
[09:04] <Humpy> yeah I am trying to install desktop as well
[09:05] <perrygovier> mine completes but it gives me an error that not everything was downloaded
[09:05] <perrygovier> at least i'm not alone, just spent two hours on google
[09:05] <Humpy> haha I've been using google coupled with the forums
[09:05] <Humpy> and then some help on IRC as well
[09:08] <mralphabet> Humpy: do you have universe enabled?
[09:08] <perrygovier> should I for the desktop? thought that was main/
[09:08] <Humpy> I think not?
[09:09] <perrygovier> then again, this is a server install... maybe it's worth a shot
[09:09] <mralphabet> Humpy: gnome-desktop is available in universe, you need universe enabled to use apt-get to use it
[09:09] <mralphabet> Humpy: gnome-desktop is available in universe, you need universe enabled to use apt-get to _get_ it
[09:09] <mralphabet> fixed
[09:10] <Humpy> hrmm okay
[09:11] <perrygovier> i have universe "unpounded"
[09:12] <perrygovier> it always was
[09:13] <mralphabet> perrygovier: I haven't been following your problem, what are you trying to fix?
[09:13] <perrygovier> apparently the same as humpy. fresh install of 7.04 apt-get is saying ubuntu-desktop can't be found
[09:14] <nealmcb> !source | Humpy
[09:14] <ubotu> Humpy: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[09:14] <nealmcb> Humpy: scratch that...
[09:14] <mralphabet> perrygovier: then no, that would not be the same problem as Humpy 
[09:15] <mralphabet> perrygovier: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop does what
[09:15] <nealmcb> !easysources
[09:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:15] <perrygovier> mralphabet: "E: couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[09:17] <perrygovier> after, reading package list...done
[09:17] <Humpy> yeah I get the same
[09:17] <perrygovier> building dependency tree>reading state information...done>
[09:17] <nealmcb> after setting sources.list properly and doing apt-get update?
[09:18] <perrygovier> fresh install, haven't chagned sources.list but everything looks right, and yes to the update
[09:18] <Humpy> hehe I am so lost... 
[09:18] <nealmcb> :-)
[09:19] <nealmcb> Humpy: yeah - any system is confusing in the beginning
[09:19] <Humpy> yeah I know so little about it
[09:19] <nealmcb> !info ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:20] <Humpy> wow cool
[09:20] <nealmcb> !info ubuntu-desktop dapper
[09:20] <Humpy> so from what I do understand, with my fresh install my source list only allows me to download things from ubuntu?
[09:20] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.120 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[09:20] <perrygovier> i'm pretty weak at command line stuff, i just use this compy to run my web sever. in earlier versions all I had to was type apt-get update apt-get install ubunt-desktop and i was good from there
[09:21] <nealmcb> Humpy: ubuntu and kubuntu and ubuntu server all share the same package repositories, so no - you should be able to get them all
[09:21] <Humpy> hrmm
[09:22] <Humpy> so I don't really understand then.. is my source list just jacked up?
[09:22] <perrygovier> i tried kubuntu, same error. but vim install fine...
[09:22] <Humpy> or am I missing updates after fresh install?
[09:22] <nealmcb> perrygovier: yeah - I'm very puzzled as to why it isn't working fo ryou
[09:22] <nealmcb> !aptitude
[09:22] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:22] <nealmcb> a terminal-based gui....
[09:23] <perrygovier> i tried aptitude same basic error
[09:23] <nealmcb> abit confusing to get used to, but might make things clearer
[09:23] <nealmcb> perhaps the mirror you are using is having trouble?
[09:24] <perrygovier> how do i switch?
[09:25] <nealmcb> !easysources | perrygovier
[09:25] <ubotu> perrygovier: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:25] <Humpy> in general running sudo apt-get update, do I need to reboot the system?
[09:25] <nealmcb> no
[09:25] <mralphabet> Humpy: no
[09:25] <Humpy> kk
[09:25] <mralphabet> Humpy: the only reason to reboot a machine is to add new hardware ;)
[09:26] <nealmcb> except with fundamental updates like the kernel
[09:26] <perrygovier> ubotu: i looked at what source-o-matic gave me and it matched my source.list minus the comments
[09:26] <nealmcb> ubotu is a robot :-)
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a robot :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <nealmcb> !ubotu
[09:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:26] <Humpy> nice
[09:27] <nealmcb> perrygovier: odd
[09:28] <perrygovier> i have one idea... perhaps it's my router. i get pings back from google but perhaps i trying bypassing it. any reason that would work?
[09:30] <nealmcb> if you can browse http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ then you should be able to install from it
[09:30] <nealmcb> with apt-get
[09:30] <nealmcb> anyway - gotta run - good luck!
[09:30] <perrygovier> i can from this machine. but i'm chatting on my mac. i've only pinged on my server
[09:31] <Humpy> hrmm
[09:31] <perrygovier> k, thanks
[09:31] <nealmcb> try elinks or links for browsing from a server
[09:31] <nealmcb> without a gui
[09:31] <perrygovier> browsing w/ out gui... scary
[09:31] <nealmcb> s/links/lynx
[09:32] <Humpy> so to look at my source.list I would use like gedit?
[09:32] <Humpy> but it tells me that cmd is not known
[09:32] <perrygovier> try vim
[09:33] <perrygovier> gedit didn't work for me either
[09:33] <nealmcb> or more
[09:33] <nealmcb> gedit is a gui
[09:33] <Humpy> kk that works
[09:33] <nealmcb> that is the "more" command
[09:34] <Humpy> so according to source o matic I should only use the defaults?
[09:35] <perrygovier> yup what source-o-matic gives you should match what you're given by default except the "pounded" comments will look different
[09:36] <Humpy> right
[09:36] <Humpy> mine is different
[09:36] <Humpy> lol
[09:36] <Humpy> I think
[09:36] <perrygovier> that'd do it
[09:38] <perrygovier> sheesh, i'm getting frustrated. does anyone know if i download the regular ubuntu and use apt-get while the cd is in if it will search the cd for the desktop?
[09:39] <nealmcb> perrygovier: you might look for debugging info in apt-get or apt-cache
[09:40] <nealmcb> man apt-get
[09:40] <Humpy> so I enabled the universe lines
[09:40] <nealmcb> and you can paste what you have not to http://dpaste.org/
[09:40] <nealmcb> "not" => "now"
[09:42] <nealmcb> perrygovier: or find folks in #ubuntu who might have more experience with apt-get problems
[09:42] <perrygovier> i'm gonna try apt-get clean
[09:43] <perrygovier> if i can exit this manual..
[09:43] <nealmcb> "q"?
[09:43] <perrygovier> what i thought, but for some reason it didn't work until i hit scroll lock...
[09:43] <perrygovier> perhaps i have greater issues
[09:45] <perrygovier> nope, same problem. off to the main ubuntu page. wish me luck. thanks
[10:15] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[10:16] <DarkWizzard> does ubuntu server edition come with mod_security installed ?
[10:21] <ivoks_> no
[10:21] <ivoks_> if by that you mean apache's module
[10:32] <Humpy> damn it at this rate it's going to take me a life time to learn this shit...