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LectusHow to restoure alsa mixer defaults? I changed the volume and now the sound is mute12:41
Lectushow to unmute the sound?12:41
BFTDhrm12:41
BFTDyou'd have to fiddle with it12:41
Lectusthe sound went mute when I just changed the volume12:42
Lectusvery strange o.o12:42
crimsunthat happens with some codecs12:44
crimsunwhich one does your hardware have?12:44
crimsun`tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat`12:44
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neozenI've had better experience with gnome-alsamixer then with the xfce4-mixer or even command-line alsamixer12:46
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gerroxub xub! xD12:51
Lectusvery strange12:52
LectusI've changed everything on alsamixer and it does not work12:53
LectusI'm almost reinstalling xubuntu =\12:53
crimsunwell, you could answer my question.12:54
crimsunI've only been waiting 10 minutes.12:54
LectusSOlved01:01
Lectuswith gnome-alsamixed I unmuted things01:02
Lectusit seems xfce4-mixer mutes things without I even knowing01:02
Lectuso_O01:02
crimsunheh, no big surprise there.01:04
Lectusholy crap... and I fought was something with my sub-woofer01:05
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neozenanyone find a lightweight program for monitoring rss feeds they absolutely love?01:05
LectusI just installed this new PC today01:05
neozenI'm in the market01:05
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neozenlike I said.... gnome-alsamixer01:05
neozenthough... that was in another channel01:06
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neozenlol01:06
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gerroLectus: did you click the volume manager and go to File then options there are some checkboxes there for muting/unmuting01:14
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neozen...dratted comcast01:18
neozen...cable modem keeps rebooting01:18
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Ramonhello :) I'm having some issues with my usb01:47
Ramonit is connected to some pins on the motherboard (it is not pci, agp..)...01:48
Ramonit has 2 ps2 connectors and 2 usb connectors..   the ps2 is working cuz it recognizes my mouse01:48
Ramonbut the usb is not working.. when I type lsusb nothing happens01:48
Catoptromancyhas this always happened on this pc?01:50
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RamonI don't know because I just purchase it but I have another one with the same OS and the same type of usb and its not working as well01:51
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Ramonhave u seen them? the old usb cards that u connect to the motherboard using like an IDE connector (it looks like that)...01:51
Ramonit has 2 ps2 ports and 2 usb ports01:51
Ramonthe ps2 are working cuz they recognize my mouse but if i type lsusb nothing is coming up..01:52
Catoptromancydunno about that01:53
Catoptromancymaybe need driver for that01:53
Ramonyeah thats what im guessing... any generic drivers for usb ports?01:53
Catoptromancyprobably still no clue01:56
Catoptromancy!usb drivers01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
Catoptromancy!usb01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
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gerrolol just got my audigy sound card working02:04
gerroseems the "audigy analog/digital output jack" was on by default so had to uncheck it02:04
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Ramonhello.. I have an "ATX form card" installed on my linux box.. that card has 2 usb, 1 ps2 and 1 infrared.. debian recognizes the ps2 and the infrared but the usb's are not working.. what can I do?02:14
PumpernickelDebian?  This isn't for Debian support.02:15
Ramonbut it works the same as ubuntu an on #debian no one seems to care.. they are talking about marijuana :s02:15
gnomefreakRamon: not really the same02:17
Ramonbut i mean.. it happened the same with kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, debian etc02:17
Ramonit works with windows02:17
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gnomefreakRamon: debians gnome/kde/xfce is different than ours so it may not act the same way (same result differnet way to get there)02:19
Ramonbut i have no gui installed02:20
gnomefreakRamon: im going on what you stated a few lines up, kubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu only differ in GUI server is same for all02:21
gnomefreakRamon: you really wan to go to debians freenode server and ask in thier debian support channel (used to be on freenode at #debian)02:22
RamonI did it gnome02:22
Ramonbut no one answers02:22
Ramonthey even said they 1)didnt know 2) didnt care02:22
Ramonspent 2 hours in there02:22
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Ramonnot even a clue of what could be happening02:23
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Dianahi02:37
Lectushi02:38
Dianai need help02:38
Lectuswhat's up?02:38
Dianai'm installing xubuntu on an old laptop02:38
Dianathe drivers don't work on it and i don't have a disc02:38
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Catoptromancyxubuntu hates my video card02:38
Catoptromancyon my laptop02:38
Dianaso i downloaded the wireless driver on my desktop and burned it to a disc02:39
Dianadid i go wrong there?02:39
Dianaso far?02:39
LectusI never installed wireless. Only PPPoE here. Can't help. :(02:40
Dianado you know how to install a driver from a disk onto the xubuntu though?02:41
PumpernickelAre you trying to use ndiswrapper?02:42
Dianano02:43
Dianai don't know what that is02:43
Dianai'm new to all this02:43
Dianai just know that my wireless card won't work without a driver02:44
Dianaso i'm trying to resolve that issue02:44
PumpernickelWhat driver are you trying to use?02:44
Catoptromancyfind the folder with .inf file02:44
Dianathe one that came with the gateway computer.  i downloaded it from their site02:45
PumpernickelThen yes, you're trying to use ndiswrapper.02:45
CatoptromancyDiana : find the folder with .inf file02:45
Catoptromancyerr sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper02:45
PumpernickelSince it's a windows driver, it'll need the compatibility layer.02:45
Catoptromancywith xubuntu cd indrive02:45
Pumpernickelhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper02:45
Catoptromancyor you can go into CD and look for a folder called "pool" its somewhere around there02:45
Catoptromancyclick on 2 .deb file, ndiswrapper-util, ndis-common02:46
Catoptromancythat will install it02:46
Dianathanks02:46
Catoptromancythen02:46
Catoptromancyndiswrapper -i nameoffile.inf02:46
Catoptromancyin terminal02:47
Catoptromancyiun folder of driver02:47
Catoptromancyonce you figure it out, it literally takes 45 secodns to install02:47
Dianaok02:47
CatoptromancyI put the 3 driver files and both ndiswarpper .debs in a folder on a USB flashdrive02:48
Catoptromancyvery fast for next time = )02:48
Catoptromancysudo ndiswrapper -i nameoffile.inf02:49
Catoptromancyi meant that02:49
Dianai'm too stupid to do this02:54
Dianalol02:54
Catoptromancyheh its easy02:55
Catoptromancyyou found .debs?02:55
Dianano02:57
Catoptromancysearch through xubuntu cd02:57
Catoptromancylook in every folder02:57
Catoptromancyall i remember its somewhere in "pool"02:57
Dianai should have the xubuntu cd in rather than the driver cd in?02:57
Catoptromancyxubuntu first02:57
Dianaok02:57
Catoptromancyand what kind of wireless card is it?02:58
Dianalinxus02:59
Catoptromancyok good02:59
Catoptromancylinksys?02:59
Catoptromancyshould be easy02:59
Dianayes sorry03:00
Dianawpc54gs03:00
Catoptromancycool03:00
Catoptromancyfirst thing is look for ndis-utils.deb and ndis-common,deb03:00
Catoptromancyon xunbuntu cd03:00
Catoptromancythey are in same folder03:00
Dianai can't get the cd drive to open03:01
Catoptromancyak03:01
Catoptromancymight need to be mounted03:01
Catoptromancyerr03:01
Catoptromancyopen folder or open tray?03:01
Catoptromancyright click, the CD icon and press eject or unmount03:02
Catoptromancyhappens to me03:02
Dianagot it03:02
Dianaso after it loads, i put the xubuntu disc in?03:02
Catoptromancyya03:02
Catoptromancylook for ndis-utils.deb and ndis-common,deb03:03
Catoptromancyon xubuntu cd03:03
Dianandiswrapper?03:06
Catoptromancyya03:06
Dianait has an open box03:07
Dianawhat now?03:07
Catoptromancyopen box?03:07
Dianai clicked on it03:08
Dianaand it installed something03:08
Catoptromancyoh click install03:08
Catoptromancyclick both03:08
Catoptromancyinstall both03:08
Dianathere was only one03:08
Catoptromancywhat was exact name?03:09
Dianandiswrapper-utils03:09
Catoptromancyhmmm03:10
Catoptromancyin fiesty?03:10
Catoptromancyyou also need ndiswrapper-common03:10
Catoptromancyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/ndiswrapper-common03:10
Catoptromancyboth should have been in folder03:11
Dianabut how do i get it from one computer to the other?03:12
Catoptromancyflashdrive?03:12
Catoptromancyfloppy03:12
Dianak03:12
Catoptromancyboth really should be on cd03:12
Catoptromancypool/main/n/ndiswrapper/    on cd03:13
Catoptromancyboth are thiere03:13
Catoptromancy7.04 cd03:14
Dianai have 6 something03:14
Catoptromancyi guess use floppy03:14
Catoptromancyor flash03:14
Dianado i just put it in the computer?03:21
Dianaor restart?03:21
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Catoptromancyno need to restart03:22
Catoptromancyjust install both .debs03:22
Catoptromancyi reccomend just putting them on desktop03:22
Catoptromancymaking copies03:22
Catoptromancyeasier for future use03:23
Catoptromancydrivers and both debs should fit on a floppy03:23
Catoptromancy= )03:23
Dianai clicked on install and it was a help file03:29
Dianaand it said to install the windows driver first :S03:29
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Catoptromancyhmmm03:32
CatoptromancyDiana03:32
Catoptromancyin terminal "ndiswrapper"03:33
Catoptromancyand see what it says03:33
Dianamanage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper then gives a list03:37
Catoptromancycool03:38
Catoptromancyit seems to be already installed03:38
Dianaok03:38
Catoptromancyput drivers cd in03:38
Catoptromancylook for a folder on it "rt2500" or something similar looking03:39
Catoptromancygt5000, rs400003:39
Catoptromancywhatever03:39
Dianahow do i get the cdrom to eject again?03:39
Catoptromancyright click03:39
Dianaok i have the driver disc in, what now?03:43
Dianait won't open03:43
Catoptromancyright click and mount03:43
Dianastill not working03:45
Catoptromancyhmm03:45
Catoptromancyreboot i guess03:46
Catoptromancymight kick something in03:46
Dianai'm sure i did something wrong03:46
Dianawas i supposed to save it as an iso file?03:46
Dianaeven the driver?03:47
Dianai don't know what an iso file is03:47
Dianalol03:47
Catoptromancyits a cd image03:47
Catoptromancyi have no clue on how you even got it to save as an iso03:48
Dianai didn't03:48
Dianai was going to download zenwalk earlier and was told it had to be saved as an iso and i needed nero03:48
Dianaso i didn't do it03:49
Dianai just used this xubuntu disc i have03:49
Catoptromancyyou can burn .iso files with most software03:49
Catoptromancyyou dont need that .iso03:49
Catoptromancyits slackware based I think03:49
Catoptromancyslackware is not easy to use03:49
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Dianai just don't think it's going to work03:50
Catoptromancyit will03:50
Dianai rebooted and the disc still won't load03:50
Catoptromancygo throguh the file manager to /media/03:51
Dianasame thing03:53
Catoptromancyyou might need to edit fstab03:54
Catoptromancyits not easy03:54
Dianaok03:54
Jester45fstab isnt that hard04:26
Catoptromancynope but confusing if you never sen it04:29
Catoptromancyseen04:29
CatoptromancyI managed to edit it once04:29
Catoptromancyand got my CD player owkring04:30
Catoptromancynot really even sure what i did04:30
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Catoptromancyheh04:30
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Ghostviruscan anyone recommend a character map app?05:50
Ghostvirusi know there's gucharmap, but that has some gnome deps05:50
Jester45its pretty dead in here today05:50
Ghostvirusisn't it always?05:51
Jester45no05:53
Jester45!meeting05:53
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:53
Jester45when the next one....05:53
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Ghostvirusi get the feeling i'm going to end up going with gucharmap :/05:58
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darwin81Is computer with a 400MHz processor and 256 MB of RAM be enough to run Xubuntu nicely?07:43
peepsalotxfdesktop and xfce4-menu-plugin aer using up 380 mb each on my computer, not sure why.  it doesn't normally use this much07:46
peepsalotanyone know what might cause them to hog so much memory?07:46
crimsundarwin81: sure.07:46
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galorinI just upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and xfce has started launching applications when I put in a CD/DVD/USB,and I don't want it to do that.  How do I stop it?09:57
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TheSheepgalorin: open thunar, got to edit->preferences, last tab10:09
TheSheepgalorin: and click on the link10:09
galorintrying toclick,and it aint clicking..10:11
TheSheepgalorin: works for me, maybe the window is somewhere already on your desktop?10:14
galorinhad to reinstall thunar.  I don't thinkmy upgrade went as smooth as I hoped10:16
galorinTheSheep, it did work aftre the reinstall,thanks a bunch.10:25
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markmarquesHi.. I do have a generic question regarding Xubuntu latest beta release....10:30
galorinbeta.. use at your own risk10:31
markmarquesoh... ? the problem: unable to install....10:32
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markmarquesAlthough it starts correctly and then it reports as CDROM not being present...10:32
markmarquesusing the ash shell and trind to read the cdrom mount point reports as empty ? !10:33
galorinbug in the installer?10:37
galorinor bad burn maybe10:37
markmarquesthe md5 hash reports correctly...10:41
markmarquesit can see correclty the HDD partitions though...10:42
markmarquesafter locking reporting "unable to mount CDROM" it goes to a screen asking for the PCMCIA connections ?!10:42
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gerrotrying to setup a printer and I get message "You will need to install the `gutenprint-foomatic` package in order to use this driver." which package is that? All I found was foomatic-db-gutenprint10:51
gerrohmm I'll see if something in forum I overlooked maybe some newbie guide for this :)10:54
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Zvezdichkohello, how could I completely remove xfce from my desktop?10:57
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insmod<Zvezdichko> apt-get -r xfce*11:12
insmod<Zvezdichko> i like enlightenment :)11:12
insmod<Zvezdichko> and u don't remove it from the desktop - u remove the wm11:14
Zvezdichkoi already tried with apt-get remove xfce4-all packages11:16
Zvezdichkothis will work11:16
ZvezdichkoI may switch back to xfce someday11:16
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Harnahi12:30
Harnawhere i can change config menu in xfce (zxubuntu)?12:30
TheSheepchange config menu?12:35
Harnaehh12:52
Harnayou know i want add something and remove12:52
Harnabut i don't know how12:52
TheSheepbut what is the config menu? which menu is that?01:00
gnomefreakmain menu?01:03
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gerrogood morning all you peoples!01:20
gerro:D01:20
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gerrowonder what everyone up to so quiet here02:10
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arooEarly here in the states02:32
Merchelo2pm in dublin02:56
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derjenshi everybody03:21
derjensi've got a crazy problem with my mouse...03:21
derjensi've just installed xubuntu some days ago and the mouse worked fine... today i started the box and the mouse pointer moves VERY slowly03:22
derjens2 mice show the same problem...03:22
derjensCPU usage is not at 100%03:22
derjensdo you have any explanation for that?03:22
zialserr.. try : Applications -> Settings -> Mouse Settings03:23
zialsmaybe someone messed with those settings?03:23
derjensthere is nobody who could mess it up. and i didn't even call this window03:24
derjensthe mouse will move to the place it would move to with ordinary speed but this takes a long time. so it arrives at its place a long time after you stopped moving the mouse03:25
derjensthis is strange03:28
zialshave you tried rebooting? O.o03:29
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derjenszials, yes i tried03:36
derjensi have now connected it via an usb/ps2 adapter and it works fine again03:37
derjensbut nevertheless i would like to know what the reason was03:37
derjensi am not sure whether this could occur in future also with the ps/2 port03:38
zialsI'm not too sure...03:38
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Apsentihello. I'm trying to totally remove [purge]  xubuntu-desktop but it seems apt-get, aptitude, etc aren't working that good. could anyone help?03:52
Pumpernickelxubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.  If you want the entire thing gone, you'll have to run apt-get autoremove.03:53
Apsentijust 'apt-get autoremove'? no other parameters? [i'm trying to remove the settings, so i can re-install it] 03:54
Apsentixfce's settings03:54
PumpernickelMost settings are user-specific.03:55
PumpernickelThey're stored, usually, in ~/.config.03:55
PumpernickelIf that's all you want to remove, you shouldn't have to reinstall the entire desktop environment.03:55
Apsentiso, by deleting everything in ~/config, will every setting having to do with xfce go?03:56
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PumpernickelMost, yeah.  It'll revert to the default settings.03:57
Apsentisee, the problem is I can't logout from xfce desktop, I trying purging/reinstalling it but to no avail.03:57
Apsentiok. I'll try that03:58
Apsentibb03:58
Pumpernickel...sigh...03:59
PumpernickelThat would've been a good thing to mention at the beginning.03:59
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blithenAnyone on?04:18
Pumpernickel!anyone04:19
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:19
blithenI am having trouble with flash, I installed it, but I am still getting errors when I go to a site with flash04:19
PumpernickelErrors?04:21
blithenSorry not errors.04:22
blithenBut it closes out without warning.04:22
PumpernickelIf you launch the browser from a terminal, what does the traceback show?04:22
blithenUhm...>>;; Man I wish I wasn't such a newb. How do you do that?04:23
blithenWhat do you type I mean.04:23
PumpernickelWhich browser do you use?04:24
blithenMozilla04:24
blithenThen again I also tried Galeon, same thing. But I uninstalled that.04:25
PumpernickelIn a terminal, then, type in 'moz' and hit tab twice.04:25
blithenSo then what would the trace back be?04:26
PumpernickelWhat it prints out before it dies.04:26
blithenIt says nothing.04:26
blithenI just, closes out.04:27
blithenWait04:28
blithenSegmentation fault (core dumped)04:28
blithenThere04:28
PumpernickelJust paste the entire thing.04:30
Pumpernickel!paste04:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:30
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blithenThat's all it says04:31
blithenblithen@Computer:~$ mozilla04:31
blithenSegmentation fault (core dumped)04:31
blithenblithen@Computer:~$04:31
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Pumpernickelbug 1491104:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491104:35
blithenHMmm.04:38
blithenGet anything else?04:40
blithenThis is kinda confusing for me.04:40
blithen._.04:46
blithenOkay04:47
blithenSo I found a patch04:47
blithenand I tried to run it, but it's saying permission denied.04:47
blithenAnyway to get around that?04:47
Merchelosu04:49
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Mercheloor even sudo04:49
blithenHuh?04:50
blithenSorry, it disconnected me.04:50
blithenlike that?04:51
blithensudo /home/blithen/flash+composite.patch04:51
blithenthis*04:51
magic_ninjadoes anyone know who the admin of #winehq is04:52
blithenNope.04:53
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Merchelosu - ; /home/blithen/flash+compsite.patch05:00
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blithenI'm trying to run something using the terminal, but it keeps saying permisson denied anyway to get around this?05:23
maxamillionblithen: what are you trying to run?05:27
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blithenNevermind I got it figured out.06:01
blithenIt was a .run06:01
blithenbut06:01
blithenchmod +x blabla.run06:02
blithenthen06:02
blithenI can't remember the other part.06:02
blithenBut I got it working ^^06:02
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exwdoes xubuntu use rpm's from the ubuntu repo or its own repo?06:04
PumpernickelIt doesn't use rpms.06:04
PumpernickelBeing Debian, not RedHat, based, it uses .deb packages.06:04
exwright... doh!06:05
PumpernickelBut yes, the repository is shared with Ubuntu.06:05
exwok thanks06:05
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liwayhello... need help re xubuntu feisty... ne1 around?06:06
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j1mca few people...06:06
j1mc!ask06:06
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:06
blithenxD06:07
blithenI do have a question though. I have been having a problem with sites dealing with java and flash.06:07
blithenWhen I backtrace this comes up.06:07
blithenSegmentation fault (core dumped)06:08
liwayi just installed the xubuntu-desktop... its really fast (10x faster than ubuntu!) and i like it. however, how can i see the network status icon that's in the ubuntu-desktop at the top panel? i can't seem to connect with my wireless router.06:08
blithenThat I have no idea.06:09
blithenSearch on the forums maybe.06:09
liwayi'll ask in the ubuntu forum06:09
liwaythanks blithen06:10
Pumpernickel!info xfce4-xfapplet-plugin06:11
ubotuxfce4-xfapplet-plugin: Gnome applets plugin for Xfce panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-3ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 288 kB06:11
j1mcPumpernickel: what does that package do?  i've never heard of it before.06:15
liwayPumpernickel: how can i view available wifi networks on xubuntu laptop06:15
blithenPumpernickel, who's problem is it suppose to fix?06:16
PumpernickelIt's a compatibility applet that lets you run gnome-applet type programs in the xfce panel.06:16
Pumpernickelliway: wifi-radar is a decent program.06:16
j1mcliway: also, if you aren't afraid of the command line, "sudo iwlist [interface name]  scan" works06:17
j1mcso, for me, that would be "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"06:17
j1mcand it lists all available wireless networks06:17
j1mcas Pumpernickel said, though... wifi-radar is a good, lightweight wireless app... it does have some difficulty with some types of encryption, though.06:21
blithenOkay06:25
blithenI got some error here.06:25
exwdoes xubuntu automatically mount a floppy? where would ( my brother on the phone ;-) find the floppy?06:25
blithenI'll just copy the whole thing.06:25
blithenblithen@Computer:~/weee$ ./configure06:26
blithenchecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c06:26
blithenchecking whether build environment is sane... yes06:26
blithenchecking for gawk... no06:26
blithenchecking for mawk... mawk06:26
blithenchecking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes06:26
blithenchecking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no06:26
blithenchecking for style of include used by make... GNU06:26
blithenchecking for gcc... gcc06:26
blithenchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables06:26
blithenSee `config.log' for more details.06:26
blithenblithen@Computer:~/weee$06:26
blithenSooooo....any help?06:29
Pumpernickel!paste06:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:30
pleia2blithen: put this into google: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"06:30
pleia2there are a few solutions06:31
pleia2and use pastebin next time (as Pumpernickel shows)06:31
blithenpastebin?06:31
Pumpernickel!paste > blithen06:32
blithen!paste06:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:32
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blithenpleia2 can you give me a link to one of them that has the solution for linux. I've clicked on 2 of them and they've both for mac06:35
pleia2blithen: try installing the build-essential package06:36
pleia2here's a forum link that gives some possible solutions: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91073.html06:37
pleia2searching the forums is good, they have tons of answers archived06:37
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liway_hi. i installed wifi-radar and it worked. but that's not what i'm looking for... i just wish that a networking icon be placed beside the battery indicator which, if clicked, will show to choose either wired or any of  the wireless networks...  help pls...06:41
j1mcliway_: you can install the gnome network manager, but it will introduce gnome libraries, which xfce users prefer to avoid using.06:42
j1mcdo apt-cache search gnome network manager, and you'll find that program.06:42
j1mcinstall it, and then type "nm-applet" from the command line.06:43
maxamillion!info network-manager-gnome | liway_06:43
ubotuliway_: network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 253 kB, installed size 1696 kB06:43
maxamillion!botsnack06:43
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:43
maxamilliongood ubotu06:43
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liway_jlmc: is there some sort of n etwork  manager on xubuntu/xfce?06:43
j1mcliway_: not yet06:45
maxamillionliway_: there are currently 2 different ones in development, but neither are considered to be stable enough for "production" or to ship by default .... but it is in the works06:45
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liway_is this ok to follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239178&page=206:47
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liway_what is the System Tray in xubuntu?06:48
maxamillionliway_: do you use gaim?06:48
liway_yes06:48
maxamillionliway_: when you sign on, the gaim icon shows up in the panel ... that's the system tray06:48
maxamillionliway_: well, the place where it shows up is the system tray06:49
liway_ok...06:49
liway_have you seen the link?06:49
liway_does it mean that if i install the gnome network-manager, there'll be lotsa other gnome stuff to be shoved into my system? (btw, both ubuntu and xubuntu are installed in my laptop.)06:51
blithengobject-2.0 what is that?06:53
TheSheepblithen: a set of helper libraries for OO-oriented programming in plain C06:54
TheSheepblithen: whole gtk is written using it06:54
liway_is there another program like wifi-radar?06:54
blithenThe Sheep, do you know of a way to download it?06:55
blithenOr where rather.06:56
TheSheep!info gobject06:57
ubotuPackage gobject does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:58
TheSheep!info libgobject06:58
ubotuPackage libgobject does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:58
TheSheep:/06:58
blithenxD06:58
TheSheepit's part of glib it seems :/06:59
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liway_maxamillion: i have both ubuntu and xubuntu desktops installed on my laptop... how to i acvtiate the network-manager in my "system tray" everytime i use xubuntu?07:01
liway_i have both ubuntu and xubuntu desktops installed on my laptop... how to i acvtiate the network-manager in my "system tray" everytime i use xubuntu?07:02
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blithenWell07:04
blithenI'm totally stumped.07:04
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liwayhi. i just removed ubuntu-desktop! now, is there a way to change the bootup/shutdown splash page from ubuntu to xubuntu?07:34
maxamillionliway: lemme find you a link ... just a moment07:35
liwaythanks maxamillion!07:35
nzkWhy is Xubuntu so slow?07:36
nzkXFCE, KDE, and GNOME are all too slow07:36
TheSheepnzk: try DOS07:36
nzkOn a relatively fast (3.46ghz, 1GB RAM) computer07:36
nzkShould I reinstall?07:36
TheSheepnzk: I think you must be having some hardware problem07:37
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nzkThat's everyone's diagnosis07:37
TheSheepnzk: see? :)07:37
maxamillionliway: i believe the command is "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so07:37
nzkHow do I remedy it?07:37
maxamillionliway: and then you select the xubuntu one07:38
nzkThere was no such problem this time last year, when I first installed Ubuntu07:38
TheSheepnzk: have your hardware checked?07:38
nzkTheSheep, where?07:38
TheSheepnzk: where you bought it, usually07:38
liwaymaxamillion: i'll try it now07:38
maxamillionnzk: go to www.ultimatebootcd.com and run some diagnostic utilities on your hardware07:38
maxamillionliway: ok07:38
nzkmaxamillion, smart!07:39
liwaymaxamillion: i did it. i'll just reboot and see if it works. will come back. MARAMING SALAMAT PO! (that's "many thanks" in Tagalog)07:39
maxamillionnever heard of Tagalog07:40
maxamillion.... interesting07:40
maxamillionanyhoo ... its lunch time, be back in an hour07:40
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liwayhi. i removed the gnome-desktop and all gnome stuff and bloat like openoffice. is there a lightweight PRESENTATION (Powerpoint) maker and editor for xubuntu?08:27
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nikolamNo more lightweight like Abiword And Gnumeric. But for presentations... hmp dont know08:58
zialshe's already logged08:59
zials..off*08:59
TheSheepattention span of a mayfly09:00
TheSheepbeamer is nice09:01
maxamillionTheSheep: beamer as in BMW?09:02
TheSheepmaxamillion: no, as in latex09:03
maxamillionTheSheep: ahhhh, yeah ... i'm not entirely familiar with latex, i should be... but i'm not09:06
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maxamillionin C*09:07
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ahshahhi, i don't have bsd-lpr as a printing option, can someone help me figure out why?09:13
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kwhy does my copy/paste break regularly?09:54
TheSheepk: because there is no clipboard09:55
maxamillionk: you talking about with firefox? ... i used to have that issue and i think its just firefox because i have had that problem on multiple distros09:55
kah ok09:56
maxamillionor that09:56
TheSheepk: linux has no clipboard, you cannot paste from a program you already closed09:56
kwell theyre still open09:56
ki think its firefox09:56
TheSheepk: another thing -- just selecting text makes it 'copy'09:56
Catoptromancyactually09:56
maxamillionk: yeah, if you have a knoppix cd laying around, try it on there ... it does it too09:57
CatoptromancyI made a "notepad" .txt on a FAT32 partition09:57
Catoptromancymade a sn shortcut09:57
Catoptromancysh09:57
Catoptromancyso I copy and paste stuff into different OSes, from same file09:57
ki restarted firefox and its still doing it... just trying to copy a link from the address bar to a gaim conversation09:58
kit breaks randomly... its pasting something i copied hours ago09:58
Catoptromancythat should work09:58
Catoptromancyright click and selecet copy09:58
maxamillionk: yeah, you just have to re-copy it (sometimes takes a couple times) and it will eventually work09:58
Catoptromancysometimes program are odd about copying09:58
TheSheepk: just select the url and use the middle mouse button to paste09:58
kTheSheep, thats not working09:58
TheSheepk: you might want to add a clipman plugin to your panel09:58
maxamillionCatoptromancy: it happens alot with firefox :/09:58
ki normally only use that to copy from the terminal09:58
Catoptromancyon Mirnada I need to copy twice09:59
kill check that out09:59
maxamillionbrb09:59
Catoptromancythere is a task bar button you can add that is similar to clipbaord09:59
Catoptromancybut i prefer shortcut to a .txt file10:00
TheSheepk: this explains the mechanics in action a little: http://standards.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-0.1.txt10:01
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darwin81Can I use the keyboard to control the pointer?12:28

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