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jhutchins_ltAlt-F212:15
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quinton_go on12:15
K-Ryantype that in12:15
K-Ryankdesu kate.....12:15
quinton_ok now?12:15
K-Ryanlook for timeout or delay setting12:16
jhutchins_lt/engage brain12:16
K-Ryan=)12:16
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quinton_I dont quiet understand12:16
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quinton_please explain more literate?12:16
Schuenemannalt f2, then paste the command12:16
ninHerhi all12:16
arekanderustdin: hey man, now I've activated the nvidia12:16
K-RyanWhat language do you usually speak quinton_?12:16
arekanderustdin: but now it says that OpenGL ain't installed12:17
stdinarekanderu: what says that?12:17
K-Ryan!format12:17
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:17
arekanderustdin: the game i'm trying to run12:17
K-RyanHow can I completely erase a hard drive?12:17
K-RyanPreferably from the konsole12:17
K-RyanBecause Gparted is giving me an error box with nothing in it12:17
K-RyanI want the drive zeroed12:17
quinton_shuenemann: I did that, Now it loaded untitled - kate12:17
stdinK-Ryan: you format it, with the mkfs command, see "man mkfs"12:18
K-Ryanquinton_: You typed something in wrong then12:18
quinton_kdesu kate12:18
stdinarekanderu: well you will have it installed, it's installed with X12:18
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stdinarekanderu: what's the exact output?12:18
K-RyanNo you needed to type in the whole line quinton_12:18
Schuenemannyou were told kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst12:18
arekanderustdin:12:19
arekanderuX Server has no OpenGL extension. (Error Code 31)12:19
arekanderuPlease ensure your X Server features an OpenGL extension.12:19
quinton_sorry12:19
quinton_I didnt see that12:19
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K-Ryanstdin: I just need it empty12:19
stdinarekanderu: ahh, do you have "Load    "glx"" in your /12:19
K-RyanGeneral command for that please? =)12:19
jhutchins_ltquinton_: Alt-F2, then kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst, then look for "timeout".12:19
stdinarekanderu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:19
quinton_jhutchins_it: I got it now, thank you, just timeout to 0 ?12:20
arekanderustdin: i'll chekc12:20
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arekanderustdin: check*12:20
stdinK-Ryan: you want it ext3?12:20
jhutchins_ltquinton_: I would set it to 112:20
K-Ryanstdin: Well I plan on partitioning it into a few different things12:20
K-RyanBut right now I just need it empty, or one thing I guess12:20
jhutchins_ltquinton_: Much easier to deal with than if you set it to 0 and need it.12:20
stdinK-Ryan: ahh, so you want to delete the partition?12:20
quinton_jhutchins_it: like this it will not show correct?12:20
K-RyanI want the whole drive12:20
K-Ryanempty12:20
arekanderustdin: i can't finy any "load"12:20
arekanderustdin: what should I do?12:20
jhutchins_ltquinton_: Let it show for one second.12:20
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quinton_jhutchins_it: whats the difference?12:21
stdinK-Ryan: is it the main drive (the one you are running from) or another one?12:21
doml_hi, maybe a silly question, but what's the easiest way to just get rid of all my old kernels?12:21
K-RyanI'm on a live cd12:21
stdinarekanderu: post the file to pastebin please12:21
jhutchins_ltquinton_: If you ever have a problem with a kernel, or a hard drive, or whatever, you can still boot.12:21
K-Ryanits /dev/hdc12:21
arekanderustdin: kk12:21
K-Ryanthere's no hdb, go figure12:21
doml_i keep a separate /boot partition and it's almost full, i won't be able to get any more kernel updates...12:21
arekanderu!postbin | arekanderu12:21
jhutchins_ltquinton_: Otherwise you would need a boot disk or rescue CD or something.12:21
stdinK-Ryan: ok, open up qtparted12:21
quinton_jhutchins_it: oh, well it will be ok like this My computer Is very well managed.12:21
Schuenemann!pastebin12:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:21
K-Ryandoml_ delete older kernels12:21
stdinK-Ryan: or from the command line, run "sudo fdisk /dev/hdc"12:22
K-Ryanstdin: i have gparted open but whenever I try to delete a partition i get a blank error mesage12:22
K-Ryancommand line it is!12:22
arekanderustdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28726/12:22
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K-RyanIt came up with "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)12:23
K-Ryanthen "Command (m for help):12:23
doml_other then going in to a terminal and doing "rm -Rf /boot/*", or whatever.  something a bit more, you know, 21st century12:23
quinton_jhutchins_it: will automatix work well with kubuntu?12:23
K-RyanPut in w?12:23
jhutchins_ltdoml_: Don't just delete them, remove them with apt.12:23
HayaBusaHI guys, I have xp and linux on same system . with many files on xp partition, I Like to know how to make a link to folders on xp ?12:23
K-Ryanquinton_ NEVER USE AUTOMATIX12:23
jhutchins_lt!ntfs | HayaBusa12:23
ubotuHayaBusa: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:23
K-Ryan!automatix12:23
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:24
stdinK-Ryan: seeing as you want to repartition the whole drive, yeah12:24
K-Ryan=)12:24
arekanderustdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28726/12:24
K-RyanUnable to write /dev/hdc12:24
K-Ryan=(12:24
quinton_k-ryan: any other sugguestion to install flash? and getting frostwire to work?12:24
stdinarekanderu: try changing the "load glx" part to "Load glx" under "Section "Module""12:24
TrueFXhi guys12:24
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: Needless to say, you must be root or use sudo.12:24
HayaBusaMY partition is mounted and i can brows, but i need to crate like shortcut to some folders on my xp partion12:25
K-RyanI did type sudo12:25
arekanderustdin: how did i open xorg.conf with sudo now again? >.<12:25
TrueFXi cant furf using my browser12:25
K-RyanI think I did12:25
K-RyanYeah, I did12:25
jhutchins_ltHayaBusa: I suppose you can click-and-drag.12:25
TrueFXhow can  i see what blocks it doing that ?12:25
TrueFXsuf12:25
TrueFXsurf12:25
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HayaBusai will try ..12:25
HayaBusathanks12:25
stdinarekanderu: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:25
K-Ryanubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/hdc12:25
K-RyanYou will not be able to write the partition table.12:25
Schuenemannstdin, he can also try AllowGlxWithComposite "True"... I only got it working with that line12:25
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stdinarekanderu:  ^ try that too12:26
stdinK-Ryan: make sure it's not mounted anywhere12:26
HayaBusayep. that worked. thanks12:26
K-RyanI don't think it's mounted but I'll look around12:26
arekanderustdin: checking now12:27
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: mount will tell you.12:27
arekanderustdin: nothing changed12:27
arekanderustdin: same error msg (31)12:27
arekanderustdin: i have to reboot >.<12:27
stdinarekanderu: you have to restart the Xserver after12:27
arekanderustdin: lol, brb12:27
stdinarekanderu: no need to reboot12:27
arekanderustdin: yeah, brb12:27
arekanderustdin: ?12:27
K-RyanIt doesn't seem to be mounted12:27
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stdinarekanderu: just restart the server, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace12:27
K-Ryanubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdc12:28
K-Ryanmount: can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:28
stdinK-Ryan: try "mount | grep hdc"12:28
K-Ryannothing came up12:28
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arekanderustdin: same error msg (31)12:28
arekanderustdin:  :((12:28
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stdinhmm12:29
arekanderustdin: and i can only have graphics 800*600 or 2024*something :(12:30
arekanderustdin: :'(12:30
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Schuenemannmaybe it is your monitor settings (that was my problem)12:30
stdinarekanderu: try posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin12:30
arekanderustdin: kk brb12:30
arekanderustdin: uhm, it won't let me12:31
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arekanderustdin: "Denied"12:31
RandomDude16how can i get mkv files to play without lagging?12:31
jhutchins_ltarekanderu: just use sudo when that happens.12:31
stdinarekanderu: what won't let you?12:31
jhutchins_ltarekanderu: Sorry, kdesu.12:31
arekanderustdin: the command you told me to write, the command won't let me open that log12:31
K-RyanAnyone know a command to force a hard drive and all its partitions to be erased?12:31
RandomDude16I have an Athlon 64 3000+ with an NVIDIA Geforce 760012:32
jhutchins_ltarekanderu: kdesu <command>12:32
K-RyanI don't need or want any of it12:32
arekanderujhutchins_lt: kdesu, k, ty :)12:32
K-RyanI want it GONE12:32
stdinarekanderu: you don't need root to open it12:32
Schuenemannthere is nothing to deny it, he's just pasting a file =?12:32
jhutchins_ltarekanderu: Any time you get access denied or an error like that, can not write lock file, etc. just make sure you're using kdesu or sudo.12:32
arekanderustdin: wow, Permission Denied anyway12:32
RandomDude16anyone?12:32
jhutchins_ltarekanderu: Figure anything that can affect the system you'll need that.12:32
arekanderustdin: this sucks.. :(12:33
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stdinarekanderu: what does "ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log" show?12:33
K-RyanPlease...12:33
arekanderustdin: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32590 2007-07-06 00:30 /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:33
K-RyanI'm dying here12:34
arekanderujhutchins_lt: thanks man12:34
stdinarekanderu: then you should be able to read it12:34
arekanderustdin: won't let me ;(12:34
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: fdisk12:34
arekanderustdin: w8, posting it to pastebin so you can take a look yourself12:34
arekanderu!pastebin12:34
stdinK-Ryan: try pressing "o" in fdisk12:34
jhutchins_ltarekanderu: What are you actually using to try to look at it?12:34
arekanderujhutchins_lt: the command12:35
arekanderu!pastebin | arekanderu12:35
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arekanderu...12:35
arekanderu!pastebin12:35
K-Ryano doesn't do anything12:35
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Contrast83Greets, everyone...12:35
arekanderu?pastebin12:35
arekanderu..12:35
stdinK-Ryan: it should create a new partition table12:35
jhutchins_ltOoh, ubotu doesn't feel well...12:35
Contrast83Does anyone know if X supports dual graphics card setups12:35
Contrast83?12:35
K-Ryanstdin: it doesn't12:35
arekanderu!pastebin | Contrast8312:35
jhutchins_ltDead bot.12:36
Schuenemann!pastebin | arekanderu12:36
stdinContrast83: it does, with some settings12:36
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Schuenemannthe bot is offline hehehe12:36
arekanderuThe bot is dead12:36
arekanderui don't know the address12:36
Contrast83stdin: How do you mean?12:36
arekanderuto the pastebin ..12:36
Contrast83Settings on the cards themselves?12:36
Schuenemannpastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:36
arekanderustdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28727/12:37
arekanderustdin: that's what it says12:37
stdinarekanderu: you'll need to add the settings to xorg.conf, I don't think that system settings can do it12:37
arekanderustdin: please, could you guide me?12:37
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stdinarekanderu: that's not right, it's not a command, just open kate and then open /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:38
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arekanderustdin: where's that "kate"?12:38
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Contrast83arekanderu: KMenu -> Utilities -> Kate12:39
arekanderuContrast83: ty12:39
Contrast83yep12:39
arekanderustdin: i opened the /var thingy12:39
arekanderustdin: and now?12:39
stdinpost it to pastebin12:40
arekanderukk12:40
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arekanderustdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28728/12:40
Contrast83stdin: Do you know of a resource you could point me to where I could read up on dual graphics cards under Linux in general?12:41
quinton_How would I run a .exe file?12:41
stdinContrast83: umm, google? but look on http://linuxquestions.org and the http://ubuntuforums.org too12:42
stdin!wine | quinton_12:42
Contrast83K, thanks12:42
arekanderustdin: did you find anything m8?12:42
quinton_stdin: wine is free?12:42
stdindang, ubotu is slow12:42
ubotuquinton_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:42
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stdinarekanderu: I'm no expert on the nvidia driver, but I can't see anything wrong in there12:43
K-Ryan!unmount12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:43
arekanderustdin: this sucks man.. :(12:43
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K-RyanI was told to try...12:43
stdinarekanderu: GLX is loaded too "(II) Loading extension GLX"12:43
K-Ryansudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=112:43
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: umount.  man umount.12:43
K-RyanIt tells me Read-only file system12:43
arekanderustdin: ok?12:43
K-Ryanwhat, I put in the n?12:43
K-Ryan-.-12:44
arekanderustdin: what should I do then?12:44
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: You've probably specified your CD then.12:44
RandomDude16HELLO?12:44
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: sudo fdisk -l, see what it says.12:44
stdinarekanderu: not sure, as far as I can see, it should work12:44
K-RyanSpecified my CD?12:44
HeulsayHi, is there any repository for the new kde4 alpha 2 ?12:44
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quinton_k-ryan: what is the repository in kubuntu and how do I get to it?12:44
stdinK-Ryan: remember on feisty your disk will be /dev/sdX not /dev/hdX12:44
jhutchins_ltHeulsay: They usually prefer that you run from the KDE sources if you're going to bug test an alpha.12:44
K-RyanThis is a Dapper CD12:45
arekanderustdin: cant i download the drivers again?12:45
arekanderustdin: or?12:45
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Guilty_as_Sinderek, is that you?12:45
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K-RyanThat did it12:45
derekporterno its tina12:45
K-RyanThe sdc instead of hdc12:45
RandomDude16Anyone care to help me fix my problem?12:45
Guilty_as_Sinlol12:45
arekanderu!nvidia12:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:45
quinton_stdin: where do I find kubuntu's respository?12:45
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: You want to be pretty careful with that.12:45
RandomDude16!hstv12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hstv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: I wouldn't do dd, I'd use fdisk.12:45
RandomDude16!hdtv12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
K-RyanToo late *shrug*12:45
RandomDude16!mkv12:45
stdinquinton_: open the Adept package manager12:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:45
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: Using dd you could end up with an unsalvagable drive.12:46
RandomDude16!cpu12:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
K-RyanI don't need what was on it12:46
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stdinarekanderu: you can try reinstaling it, but I don't think that would help12:46
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jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: I know, but presumably you want the actual disk.  You could break it with dd so that you can't use it for anything else.12:46
arekanderustdin: wow man, this really sucks12:47
stdinjhutchins_lt: that wouldn't break it, just blank it12:47
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: Also, if you get the wrong device name again, you could end up with a dead system.12:47
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jhutchins_ltstdin: So if he overwrites the partition table and mbr....12:47
arekanderustdin: brb, gonna try some new stuff12:47
arekanderustdin: i'll brb12:47
stdinjhutchins_lt: that's what he wants12:48
K-RyanNever mind it didn't work12:48
K-Ryanhdc is still intact12:48
K-Ryanexcept in GParted there is now an empty sdc12:48
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sito__[00:45]  <sito__> ssh root@83.57.117.XXX:2212:49
sito__[00:45]  <sito__>its correct?12:49
K-Ryansudo fdisk -l says /dev/hda12:49
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K-RyanSo that's not the problem12:50
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stdinstdin: leave out the :2212:50
arekanderu!nvidia12:50
stdinheh, ^ speaking to self12:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:50
stdinsito__:  leave out the :2212:50
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sito__stdin, thanks!!12:51
TeraDyne!ies4linux > TeraDyne12:51
sito__but, can i put in port 222 for example?12:51
stdinsito__: you'd use "ssh -p 222 root@myhostname"12:52
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SloikYo12:53
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stdinYo-Ho-Ho12:54
sito__stdin: thanks thanks !! XD12:54
stdinno problem :)12:54
Schuenemannis anyone able to play MIDI files?12:54
stdin!midi12:54
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo12:54
SloikOnly through this one program12:54
Sloiktimidity12:54
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Schuenemannstdin, there is a problem with that wiki, there was a update12:55
Schuenemannthe file listed is not created anymore12:56
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patruxhello :)01:02
quinton_Can someone guide me through installing flash?01:02
stdin!flash01:02
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:02
patruxadobe flashplayer ?01:03
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Schuenemannyes01:03
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stdinflash is only available in 32bit format, ie: not for PPC and not on 64bit (unless you use 32bit firefox)01:03
quinton_stdin: im not so literate in linux please guide me?01:03
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stdinquinton_: what version are you using?01:04
spark_hi everyone01:04
quinton_stdin: feisty fawn I do believe01:04
patruxyou have to install firefox 32bit version01:04
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quinton_stdin: I need java to run a program not browser...01:04
stdinquinton_: you should just be able to install the package called "flashplugin-nonfree" in adept01:05
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stdinquinton_: flash isn't java01:05
quinton_stdin: I get them mixed alot... hmm so how to install?01:05
spark_i got a crazy problem with vmware-workstation 6.0 : everytime i restart my system i have to reconfigure it with the *.pl file if i start it without configurating the program crashes. does anyone know why my pc cant "rembember" the configuration?01:06
stdinquinton_: to install java, the easiest way IMO is to open konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"01:06
quinton_stdin: thankies01:07
BluesKajhe prolly needs flash for youtube as well :)01:07
stdinquinton_: you'll have to accept the licence, use tab, page-up, page-down and enter to navigate01:07
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vit__hola01:08
quinton_stdin: works nicely01:08
BluesKajgood point stdin , lotsa ppl forget about the licence agreement and they think when using adept or synaptic that the install timed out or stalled.01:08
stdin!es | vit__01:09
ubotuvit__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:09
firebird_619What command can I use to determine my monitors horizontal sync frequency and vertical refresh rate? "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" does not work.01:09
quinton_stdin: hey... how do01:09
quinton_stdin: I select ok?01:09
vit__I'm sorry i don't speak english01:10
stdinquinton_: yeah01:10
quinton_stdin: how?01:10
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quinton_stdin: enter isnt wanting to work01:10
stdinquinton_: use the tab key01:10
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Ace2016Hi all01:10
quinton_stdin: thanks01:10
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arekanderuGuys01:11
arekanderuI'm going mad01:11
arekanderuNothing seems to work01:11
arekanderuI can't get my video card (nVidia Geforce MX440) TO WORK01:11
quinton_stdin: it still says when I try to run the program (no java?) and to get java now01:11
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arekanderuI beg you, somebody please help me01:12
stdinquinton_: now do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"01:12
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arekanderui'm going nuts :((01:12
stdinquinton_: choose the one that looks like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java"01:12
Ace2016!nvidia01:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:13
Ace2016arekanderu: tried that?01:13
quinton_stdin: I selected it01:13
arekanderuAce2016: to many times now01:13
quinton_stdin: now?01:13
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arekanderuAce2016: anyway, ty for trying to help01:13
stdinquinton_: that should be all you need to do01:13
quinton_stdin: the program still asks for java01:13
stdinquinton_: what's it's exact output?01:14
stdinquinton_: and what program is it?01:14
quinton_stdin: limewire turbo01:14
quinton_stdin: I installed it with wine01:14
Ace2016arekanderu: did you get any errors? or what?01:14
liuqinglaiWhat you are talking about java01:14
stdinquinton_: limewire is available on linux01:15
quinton_stdin: not limewire turbo01:15
quinton_stdin: its alot quiker =/01:15
quinton_stdin: thats the only reason I wish to use it.01:15
stdinquinton_: and if it's in wine, then you need to install the windows version of java in wine01:15
quinton_stdin: ><; alright, thanks01:15
arekanderuAce2016: yeah01:16
arekanderuAce2016: my graphic card just won't work01:16
arekanderuAce2016: i've fixed the xorg.conf thing01:16
arekanderuAce2016: i've done EVERYTHING i think01:16
arekanderuAce2016: gonna try one last thing01:16
arekanderu!nvidia01:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:16
quinton_stdin: wow, wine is great01:17
Ace2016did sudo modprobe nvidia give errors? if not the module loads, did you try restarting? what is exactly the problem?01:17
vit__yes01:18
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liuqinglaiI hava installed KDE last night and when I use it most of the cpu and momery was used than I used Gnome,01:18
arekanderuthe problem is01:19
arekanderuthat01:19
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arekanderukubuntu won't find my graphic card01:19
arekanderuor something like that01:19
arekanderui've got NO CLUE01:19
arekanderui've tried EVERYTHING and it just WON'T WORK01:19
liuqinglaiare you all face the same thing01:19
quinton_stdin: im guessing if it says a file could not install I just keep trying?01:19
liuqinglaiI hava installed KDE last night and when I use it most of the cpu and momery was used than I used Gnome,are you all face the same thing01:20
arekanderuliuqinglai: Nope01:20
TeraDyneliuqinglai: No.01:20
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stdinquinton_: not sure, don't use wine01:21
quinton_stdin: it failed on a file and now it still wont load01:21
stdinquinton_: you can ask in #winehq01:21
liuqinglaiwhy I face it it used my momery more than 50%01:21
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TeraDyneliuqinglai: KDE is a heavier desktop environment than GNOME, so it'll probably use more system resources. However, it differs from machine to machine01:23
liuqinglaiOH01:23
liuqinglai Oh01:23
liuqinglaiI just want to try so I install it01:23
liuqinglai I think I'll be used to use Gnome01:24
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TeraDyneliuqinglai: If you perfer GNOME, use it. That's the cool thing about Linux, you get a wide variety of window and desktop managers to choose from.01:25
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liuqinglaiyes but there are many software that are stable when run under the KDE01:28
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TeraDyneMost, if not all, KDE apps run just as well under GNOME as they do KDE.01:29
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arekanderuI think it's working guys!01:30
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liuqinglaiOh but I run KDevelop under the Gnome it face some problem01:31
TeraDyneliuqinglai: Like what?01:33
arekanderuGuys01:33
arekanderuI finally made it01:33
arekanderuIt WERE the wrong drivers01:33
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liuqinglaiI don't know01:33
arekanderuBut I changed them with the right ones01:34
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liuqinglaiI just switch from windows a bit time01:34
The_VoxI'm looking for a kernel 2.6.19 or newer for kubuntu 6.10...trying to get the stupid network on it working01:34
The_Voxanybody got a clue of where I could get that? or will I need to compile a kernel.org?01:35
TeraDyneliuqinglai: Getting used to the differences in Linux takes time. Give it a bit to sink in, you'll get used to it.01:35
liuqinglaiI want it will be so01:36
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stdinThe_Vox: why not just upgrade to feisty, it uses 2.6.20?01:37
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The_Voxstdin: 'cause I had planned on doing a network upgrade...except I didn't count with the fact that the 6.10 kernel doesn't support the stupid integrated network card of that puter01:39
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Ace2016stdin: wouldn't just installing feisty 2.6.20 debs in edgy work?01:39
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The_VoxAce2016: that's what I'm thinking....can somebody supply me with the name of the kernel's deb so I can google it?01:40
stdinThe_Vox: it's at <http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic_2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb>01:41
SanneThe_Vox: you can search for package names at packages.ubuntu.com01:41
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lyynoxhi fellas01:42
The_Voxthanks, stdin01:42
lyynoxhow am I supposed to use 915resolution package01:42
lyynoxthanks01:42
The_VoxSanne: thanks too :)01:43
Sanne:)01:43
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stdinlyynox: you need to edit /etc/default/915resolution01:44
lyynoxstdin: edit to what?01:44
stdinlyynox: it's explained in the file01:44
lyynoxby the way my splash isn't showing up, am I supposed to edit grub?01:45
lyynoxstdin: okis01:45
lyynoxhow about during boot, the stuff isn't showing up01:45
stdinlyynox: make sure you have the splash option in your menu.lst01:45
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lyeshello01:51
lyessalut !!01:52
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Nyleis it possible to somehow install kde 3.5.7 on kubuntu?01:58
NyleI just downloaded the cd of kubuntu 4.07 and I only see kde 3.5.6 on it01:58
Nyle7.0401:58
Darkrift!vmware01:58
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers01:58
Ace2016The_Vox: you can get debs here http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/   but i'm not sure if it'll work01:58
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Daisuke_IdoNyle: there are repos to install 3.5.701:58
Ace2016well the kernel usually doesn't depend on anything else but i don't have that much knowledge about it01:59
vzduch!kde01:59
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.01:59
Daisuke_Idohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php01:59
Nyleoh its on the internet?01:59
Nylebut not on the cd?01:59
Daisuke_Idonope01:59
Daisuke_Idobecause 3.5.6 was current as of feisty's release, that's what was included02:00
Nyleohhh02:00
Nylethat makes sense02:00
vzduchthe CD was mastered in April02:00
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Nyleis it ok to ask kubuntu questions in ubuntu or not?02:00
[Al] chemist_excan someone help with my sound?  This really sucks. I have my instrument playing through my speakers pluged into the from mic.  I can hear it through the speakers, but I can't for the life of me record from it!02:00
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Nyleor do I have to restrict myself from #ubuntu and only ask here?02:01
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Nylethe live cd is installing right now, however I ran into a problem when I booted the live cd on my pc02:01
Daisuke_IdoNyle: kubuntu-specific questions are better off here02:01
NyleI was supposed to get a kde desktop on the kubuntu 7.04 cd but I didn't02:01
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Nyleinstead I was given a completely blank screen with the cursor blinking in top left02:02
Daisuke_Idothat's odd.02:02
NyleI had to go to alt+f1 and do 'startx'02:02
NyleI have an X1900XTX it doesn't work with anything but fglrx or vesa02:02
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Nylekubuntu uses which driver for video on the live cd?02:02
Nylebecuase I saw the entire screen scrambled up and then black02:03
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Nyleafter which I did as I said02:03
stdinNyle: it would use "ati" or "radion", the free drivers02:03
intelikeyi have a "unbootable" issue with dapper drake.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3795002:03
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Daisuke_Idowhich don't support the newest cards, i don't think02:04
Nylethose drivers don't work this card02:04
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Nyles/work/drive02:04
chalabera!fonts02:04
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer02:04
intelikeyseems that it can't make a usable initrd.img because depmod is hosed  any clue-by-four ?02:04
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NyleI've always disliked ubuntu and have been a debian man02:04
intelikeyerror is: tty1 [root@~]  depmod02:04
Nylebut I've sucked it up and I've decided to give kubuntu a shot02:04
intelikeydepmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented02:04
NyleI've heard that 7.04 is really good02:05
Daisuke_IdoNyle: better experience, IMO02:05
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Nyleyeh, I think so too02:05
Daisuke_Idobeen running kubuntu since last october02:05
Daisuke_Idoand never regretted it once02:05
[Al] chemist_exso no one can help me with sound?02:05
NyleI've always been partial to debian02:05
Nyleanyway, let me restart, i'll brb02:05
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chalabera!freetype02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
vzduchbut Feisty is really nice02:06
chalaberawhat are those fonts open source that aren't installed by default? I think apples or something?02:06
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vzduchchalabera: ?02:06
vzduch!info ttf-liberation02:06
ubotuPackage ttf-liberation does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:06
vzduchwtf? the bot is not up to date, I have those installed..02:07
Daisuke_Idovzduch: oh lord, comparing hoary to feisty is like comparing a chevette to a camaro02:07
chalaberanot those ones something about freetype02:07
Daisuke_Idonot even fair02:07
vzduchchalabera: freetype is a font renderer, has nothing to do w/ the fonts themselves02:07
chalaberavzduch: is that isntalled by defult?02:08
[Al] chemist_exam I even actually talking?  or did I identify not work?02:08
vzduchI guess so, all desktop environments depend on it02:08
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Nyleback02:08
NyleI need to install fglrx in ubuntu.  I use module-assistant to install the drivers in debian, how do I do it in kubuntu02:09
TeraDynechalabera: are you talking about the mscore fonts?02:09
vzduch!ati | Nyle02:09
ubotuNyle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:09
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Nylehey02:10
drgonzo_hello all02:10
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chalaberaTeraDyne: no02:10
Nyledoes 7.04 kubuntu have fglrx latest or should I go with ati.com drivers?02:11
drgonzo_is there somewhere to add suggestions to kubuntu releases?02:11
chalaberanevermind I     might be confusing things02:11
drgonzo_I personally think they should intergrate spambayes and kmail.02:11
chalaberawhat are Apples fonts package?02:11
Nylewhich install method should I get is what I'm asking depending on which version of drivers is newest02:11
Nyledo you know?02:11
drgonzo_instead of spamassassin + bogo.02:11
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Daisuke_Idochalabera: type 1 fonts?02:12
BluesKajNyle, better yet try this , of course it depends on which ati card you have . If it's alower end onboard type this tutorial will do the trick. http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty02:12
NyleI made a mistake bying this card02:12
stdinNyle: go with the packaged version first, if that doesn't work then try the other one02:12
NyleBluesKaj: X1900XTX 256MB GDDR302:12
chalaberaDaisuke_Ido: do you know the package name by any chance?02:12
Daisuke_Idonot a clue02:12
pagan0neim having a very intresting poblem.... i am running kubuntu 7.04 x86 with nvidia drivers, when i boot into console, and login and then startx it all works, when i set it to load kdm on boot, it just hangs w/ black screen, unless i load the nv driver and it loads as normal, anyone have any ideas on what would cause this?02:12
Daisuke_Idobut that's what you're looking for?02:12
chalaberaDaisuke_Ido: just have them for the sake of it02:12
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chalabera!flash02:13
pagan0neerr i ment x6402:13
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:13
chalaberawtf!! is not telling me the package name of flash02:13
Nyle8.38.6 is in ati.amd.com.  How do I check which driver the fglrx package has in kubuntu?02:14
BluesKajNyle, eeeeueeww , you have a higher end , maybe the proprietary new ATI drivers for linux will work02:14
Daisuke_Idot1-xfree86-nonfree?02:14
BluesKaj!ATI02:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:14
BluesKajno that's not it02:14
NyleBluesKaj: that doesn't help me02:14
Nyle:)02:14
vzduchgood night :)02:14
BluesKajyeah i'm aware02:14
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chalaberaDaisuke_Ido: you are genious thanks02:15
BluesKajNyle, try this  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide02:15
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Darkriftwoiw02:16
Daisuke_Idonah, just a search in adept-manager :)02:16
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Darkrift10 minutes from setup-cd boot to installed windows xp boot in vmware02:16
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Darkriftis it me or is that crazy fast02:16
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drgonzo_mmm it seems kmail does have support for spambayes02:16
drgonzo_[Spamtool #5] 02:16
drgonzo_Ident=spambayes02:16
drgonzo_in antispamrc file02:17
BluesKajNyle, , click on the 'latest"fglrx near the top of the page02:17
drgonzo_so why is it kmail doesn't detect it from the filter wizard?02:17
Morkaii am feeling like an idiot, what's the cmd to pm someone ?02:17
Morkaiin irc02:18
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drgonzo_./msg02:18
drgonzo_without the dot02:18
NyleI can't just do aptitude install fglrx module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare && sudo m-a a-i fglrx && sudo modprobe fglrx?02:18
Morkaicool thanks, i remember it was something like /w or /pm or something but i musta been thinking about an online game or something !02:18
Daisuke_Idommmkay, i'm trying to figure out how to do a video screencap contact sheet (like so: http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6079/magi15ok.jpg ).  that particular output is from media player classic in windows, is there a way to do this that anyone here knows?  i would have thought VLC would have that sort of capability, but apparently not :\02:18
Nyledo I have to go through all that reading?02:19
Nyle:(02:19
Nylein debian it is as simple as this, this readin is gonna kill me man02:19
BluesKajwell Nyle, try it yer way and see if it works :)02:19
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Daisuke_IdoNyle: it's just the new video card.  more or less unsupported right now :)02:19
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Nyleit works just as it should in debian02:20
Morkaianyonew have any experiance with beryl in kubuntu and nvidia cards ?02:20
BluesKajit is supported on the page i just posted Daisuke_Ido02:20
chalaberawhat's the flash pkg name?02:21
Darkriftanyone know how to get files info a vmware image that has no working networking?02:22
BluesKajhe just has to  click on the 'latest"fglrx near the top of the page , it' ll take him the downloads link02:22
Darkriftlol02:22
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drgonzo_ok figured out a workaround02:23
drgonzo_should i post it to bugs ?02:23
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BluesKajNyle, just click on the latest driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases... 8.38.602:24
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alejandrome podrian ayudar de como montar dispositivos nts02:27
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Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: groovy :D02:28
BluesKaj!es | alejandro02:28
ubotualejandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:28
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Daisuke_Idonow, got a solution for me? :D02:28
pagan0neim having a very intresting poblem.... i am running kubuntu 7.04 x64 with nvidia drivers, when i boot into console, and login and then startx it all works, when i set it to load kdm on boot, it just hangs w/ black screen, unless i load the nv driver and it loads as normal, anyone have any ideas on what would cause this?02:28
Morkaii had that problem, but it was soon after i installed, so i just reinstalled and it worked lol sorry no help, i know :/02:29
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CrunchyFerrett...02:30
CrunchyFerrettI wonder02:30
CrunchyFerrett!en02:30
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat02:30
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, yeah right ...i just have a bit of knowledge about the crappy ati stuff02:30
Daisuke_Idoi'm sure there's a way, even if it involves making mplayer take stills at a selected interval and using something else to automatically composite them with file info at the top...02:31
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Daisuke_Idoi would obviously prefer something a bit simpler, but meh02:31
Nyleunder fglrx mplayer can't use vo xv02:31
Nyleonly x1102:31
Nyleits garbage02:31
Nyle:(02:31
Nylegoddamn ati02:31
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NyleI just use gl2 w/multiple textures02:31
Daisuke_IdoNyle: you've just discovered the most common phrase uttered by any linux user.02:31
Nylewell, I bought this card specifically for Oblivion02:32
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BluesKajdid you check my last post direct at you Nyle ?02:32
Nylethis card topped out any 7series geforece for 200$ last year02:32
Nylemuch higher oblivion framerates so I bought it02:32
Nylewhen I bought it, it was runing 90C+ in 3d mode02:32
intelikeyok guys.  the security updates had a new version of the 2.5.15-28 kernel so i updated   "spent 3 hours downloading it." it's the same version so it doesn't make a new /lib/modules/dir  and for some reason depmod fails and therefore the initramfs.img installed over the top of the old one is not usable. end result 'system is now unbootable'   what now ?02:32
Daisuke_IdoO_O02:32
Daisuke_Idolittle high02:32
NyleI had to take the heatsink off and rebuff the copper, and use arctic silver and I brought it down to 70C~ish02:33
Daisuke_Idoi'm not really a hardcore gamer, i love my lil 760002:33
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NyleI'm not hardcore02:33
NyleI just play oblivion02:33
Daisuke_IdoAS5 is the best thing since sliced bread02:33
Nyledude02:33
Nylesliced bread isn't that great02:33
Nylewhats so great about sliced bread?02:33
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Daisuke_Idoi know, it's a nice saying though.02:33
Nyleyou have a loaf of bread, and you have a knife02:33
Nyleslice the friggin thing eh02:34
Daisuke_Idoforget all the great inventions in the past 2000 years02:34
Daisuke_Idosliced bread  this is what it all comes down to?02:34
Nylelol02:34
Daisuke_Idocarlin :)02:34
NyleIts a george carlin joke02:34
Nyleword!02:34
wordNOOOO02:34
Nyleword: omg!02:35
NyleI didn't know you were an ubuntu user02:35
Nylewhats up buddy long time no see02:35
BluesKajNyle, did you get this  latest driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases... 8.38.602:35
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NyleBluesKaj: well I download the ati driver, ran the binary, installed the driver, modified xorg.conf and now I'm trying to figure out if i need to install any other packages or not02:35
Nylethere were no errors02:35
Nyleso I think everything worked fine, lets just restart X and find out eh02:36
K-RyanPssst02:36
Nylebut before that, I'm doing a dist-upgrade02:36
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K-RyanI'm installing Kubuntu on another computer and it's been a while02:36
K-RyanIf I want a specific boot partition what do I type in for the mount point02:36
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K-Ryanin step 502:36
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BluesKajNyle, does fgl_glxgears run ok02:36
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intelikeyK-Ryan /boot02:37
K-RyanRight, thanks02:37
NyleBluesKaj: dunno02:37
NyleBluesKaj: I have not restarted X with fglrx yet02:37
wordNyle i have no idea who you are02:37
Nylestill on vesa02:37
Nyleword: from #hardware man02:37
NyleI'm stoned02:37
wordoooo02:37
Nyle:)02:37
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wordOOOOO02:37
Nyle;D02:37
wordscary02:37
Daisuke_Idosettle down...02:37
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Darkriftanyone here use vmware to run xp?02:38
wordstoned eats babies!02:38
Nyleget in ma belly!02:38
graffalguem fala portugues02:38
Daisuke_Idothere's always #kubuntu-offtopic02:38
BluesKaj!pt02:38
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:38
Nyleman this core2duo cpu is hot02:39
Nyleblazing fast man02:39
Nylehey I just apt getted upgraded and it download all 3.5.6 packages of kde02:39
Nylewhat gives, I want 3.5.702:40
Nyledo i need specific kubuntu repository or the ubuntu ones for 7.04 are not good?02:40
Nylewhats going on02:40
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Nyle!kde02:41
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.02:41
chalaberawhat's the java plug in for Mozilla? I think I'ev installed the wrong one  .../j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb02:41
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chalaberasorry this one j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin02:41
intelikey!java02:41
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:41
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chalaberathat's not wahat I am talking about02:42
chalaberaI am talkin about the firefox java plugin02:42
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intelikeyno boot,    can't boot,   hung boot.   !02:43
intelikeywho cares,   who knows,    why bother   !02:44
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intelikeyand BTW,  it seems that there is one constant,  "you reap what others have sown..."02:45
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BluesKajhere's the debs for kde357 : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php02:46
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rustalothow do I tell kontact to use my GPG key?02:47
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chalaberawoot02:48
chalaberaI've got java webstart 1.4 and java 6 web start02:48
NyleBluesKaj: thank you02:48
NyleThese packages are not well supported.??02:49
Nyle3.5.7 is not stable?02:49
BluesKajmine works fine02:49
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jhutchinsNyle: It's a lot of work, and the devs are focusing on the next kubuntu instead of backporting every increment of KDE.02:51
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jhutchinsMine works with a couple of bugs I need to file.02:51
quinton_alright02:51
quinton_I put in the sudo you gave me02:52
quinton_it said02:52
quinton_OK02:52
quinton_-.-''02:53
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quinton_?02:55
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chalaberahi03:00
chalaberanobody likes koffice? Is it in development or not?03:00
K-RyanRoom's awfully quiet...03:01
TrueFXhi guys03:01
theurs_it crashes often03:01
K-RyanAnyone know why the Kubuntu installer would hang at 6% on "Completely removed ntfsprogs" ?03:01
TrueFXhow can i aget all the .txt files in a remote http server03:01
TrueFX?03:01
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K-RyanTrueFX, ssh?03:01
TrueFXi wnat to dl www.ietf.org/rfc/*.txt03:01
TrueFX?03:02
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K-RyanOh, download them03:02
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TrueFXyep to dl all of them?03:02
TrueFXhow can i do that?03:02
TrueFXhttp://ietf.org/rfc/*.txt03:02
K-RyanNot sure03:02
TrueFX?03:02
K-RyanWait around though03:02
chalaberatheurs_: was that answer to me?03:03
NickPrestaI tried to edit my partition table with QTparted found on the Edgy LiveCD. This appears to have messed up my partition table (I tried to resize my extended partition, which appears to have failed), and GRUB is throwing error 17. I already attempted to use the grub shell to restore GRUB but I still get error 17. Any help is appreciated.03:03
chalaberaI was asking if koffice is being in development or not03:03
chalaberaNickPresta: next time use LVM03:03
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NickPresta!lvm03:04
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ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO03:04
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chalaberaNickPresta: in fact, this is a good lesson to start with LVM03:04
theurs_koffice is nice but it unstable03:04
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chalaberaNickPresta: just put EVERYTHING inside lvm except for /boot. Also root --> /03:04
chalaberatheurs_: oh man, how long it'll take to make it stable?03:05
theurs_use openofice03:05
NickPrestachalabera: "root on LV should be used by advanced users only". While I can see from the LVM website, the benefits are vast, I am in need of my system now. I will read up on LVM and make the apropriate changes. Right now, I would appreciated it if you had any tips on getting back my system without using LVM.03:07
chalaberaNickPresta: root on LVM is just as any other LVM partition, just set the mount point to / that's all03:09
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chalaberaNickPresta: I don't know who started spreading FUD about root in LVM03:09
chalaberaNickPresta: besides Ubuntu isntallation handles this automatically. I've installed several Ubuntus with LVM and I put root in LVM everytimg03:10
chalaberatime03:10
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NickPrestachalabera: I understand. I consider myself fairly knowledgable and able to learn but I'venever come across this problem with GRUB before and I don't really understand what my options are, short of using the grub shell to "setup" grub on /dev/sda5. I read somewhere that my partition tables could be incorrect, where can I view them?03:12
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alejandroholac03:12
alejandroMakeda03:13
chalaberaNickPresta: use live cd and mount them03:13
NickPrestawell, I can mount the partitions just fine. Apparently, error 17 means that GRUB thinks whichever partition it's trying to boot from isn't bootable. I thought I could manually edit the partition table and set the boot flag on /dev/sda5 (my root partition)03:14
NickPrestaafter reading some more, would, in the grub shell, using "chainloader +1", "makeactive", and "boot" on my "root (hd0,4)" solve my problem?03:16
chalaberawhat is it m$$$ XP?03:18
NickPrestamicrosoft XP is my other operating system installed03:18
chalaberawhich one is giving you the error03:18
NickPrestawhat do you mean?03:19
NickPrestawhen I start my computer, it loads grub which gives me the option to boot into kubuntu or windows03:19
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NickPrestaallow me to reboot and try this. I shall be back..03:20
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Daisuke_Idochalabera: MS.  there's no need to use $$$ in the name.  it's implied already03:21
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chalaberaDaisuke_Ido: who has established that there's no need? I will always forever say m$$$03:23
chalaberaI mean you ain't gonna tell how to talk03:23
chalaberathis is what pisses me off, Linux users believing they are higher 'cause they DON'T say m$$ and actually get mad when ppl say m$$$03:24
chalaberaI wonder who was the moron who started this thing, cause I've encountered this behaviour in several rooms03:25
chalabera!mplayer03:25
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs03:25
chalabera!codecs03:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:25
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chalaberaBluesKaj: they need to be reminded how pathetic is pretending being higher with their politically correct "Microsoft XP(tm)"03:29
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=== chalabera end of rant
BluesKajwe don't appreciate useles MS bashing here , some ppl just like to , is all03:30
kamuiM$ sucks03:30
kamuino amount of M$ bashing is useless03:31
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chalaberaexactly!!!03:31
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chalaberakamui: you know what, I get computers to fix and people complain they are slow and is not working correct. Guess what 100% of them with XP BENT OUTTA SHAPE.Just outrageous how such a company is cashing in on a crappy software that isn't supposed to do the stuff is supposed to do for the ppl. So I resort to wiping it out and install linux :'-)03:33
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cuadrocghola como estan??03:35
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chalaberacallate gilipollas03:36
cuadrocgjajaja03:36
cuadrocgpinche we03:36
cuadrocgk verga quieres _03:36
barkeerican some one help me03:36
chalaberano soy marica patooo!!03:36
barkeerienglish anyone?03:36
cuadrocgpos lo pareces por lo rosita03:36
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BluesKaj!es | cuadrocg03:37
ubotucuadrocg: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:37
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barkeerihelllllo03:42
barkeerican someone help me03:42
BluesKajbarkeeri, just ask yer question03:43
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SHOKERHOLA03:44
chalaberais there a package to play Real Player files? I don't wanna install Real Player at all03:44
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stdinchalabera: then you'd need the w32codecs package I think03:45
BluesKajhelix03:45
stdinchalabera: it's not in the standard repos03:45
stdin!w32codecs03:45
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs03:45
chalaberastdin: got it already03:45
chalaberafrom medibuntu03:45
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barkeerinew to this whole linux, how do i install programs03:46
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barkeerilike aol i have dl it but how to i get it to run a wizard03:46
chalaberaoh my god!! I didn't install ffmpeg o.O03:46
stdin!apt03:46
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:46
stdin!adept03:46
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:46
BluesKaj!helix03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
chalaberastill I don't trust helix03:47
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chalaberashady move by RealPlayer03:47
chalaberais it FULLY open source?03:47
stdinhelix is03:47
stdinbut it doesn't have rtsp support and the like03:48
stdinI don't think anyway03:48
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BluesKaji don't use it ...just know that it's supposed to be realclone03:50
kamui:)03:50
chalaberamm... linux is gonna have a problem playing Blu-Ray, is there a decrypter program out there? An ubuntu package for that matter03:51
chalaberanever mind03:51
chalaberaI found the link already03:51
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santimshello, i was wondering if there was a need for a Virus Scanner while using ubuntu????03:55
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stdinsabakas1: no, you don't need one, and there isn't one anyway03:57
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chalaberais it better using ALSA or ARTS, I forgot where bu I heard that KDE was discontinuing ARTS in favor of ALSA?03:57
stdinsabakas1: only one that scans windows files for windows viruses03:57
stdinchalabera: you seem a bit confused, aRts uses ALSA03:57
Nylealsa is better03:58
Nylearts is very very slow03:58
Nyleit lags majorly03:58
Nyleyou are better off using alsa+dmix03:58
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Nyleforget about arts unless you need the kde sounds to work03:58
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admin___i need room in spanush03:59
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Nyleand even then you can specify alsaplayer instead of kde to play those sounds03:59
stdin!es | admin___03:59
ubotuadmin___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:59
chalaberaNyle: what about jack?03:59
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Nylevery good03:59
Nylejack is the shiznit03:59
chalaberaokis03:59
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NickPrestachalabera, it turned out to be a: root (hd0, 4) and setup (hd0) solved my grub issue03:59
Nyleinfact latest versions of alsa have software mixing enabled by default03:59
NickPrestanow that I am back in my system. I'm interested in LVm, chalabera03:59
NickPrestaLVM*03:59
chalaberahha ha good04:00
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chalabera!jack04:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:01
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Nyle!jackd04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jackd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
hero!snes9x04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snes9x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
herohm04:02
stdinkde4 will be using phonon to replace aRts04:03
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chalaberaand how is phonon based on04:04
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paknefiahi04:05
paknefiasalam04:05
stdinchalabera: it all uses ALSA, if it's not OSS, it's ALSA04:06
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chalaberacan't wait for KDE4!!!04:07
stdinAlpha2 came out recently04:07
paknefiaany body know what must i use to detecting new hardware in ubuntu?04:07
stdinthere is a Live-CD out, with PLASMA!04:07
stdinpaknefia: nothing, it's detected by the kernel at boot04:08
stdinpaknefia: or by HAL/DBUS04:08
chalaberastdin: w00t where!!!!!!!!!!!!04:08
chalaberaI wanna donwload RIGHt NOW04:08
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stdinchalabera: I'll get you a link04:09
stdinchalabera: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/3.91.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.2.iso04:09
paknefiamy case is, i added new hot plug hard drive to my server04:09
stdinchalabera: it's an OpenSUSE based Live-CD04:09
paknefiaand i dont want reboot my server04:10
stdinpaknefia: try just restarting hal and dbus "/etc/init.d/dbus restart"04:10
paknefiaok..04:10
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stdinchalabera: open akregator and you'll be subscribed to the KDE Dot News blog that announces the releases04:12
kristjan_stdin: I tried it some time ago, it didn't work04:12
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stdinkristjan_: what, the alpha2 cd?04:13
paknefiastdin: no hal or dbus in my /etc/init.d/04:13
chalaberakmplayer isn't working properly with firefox, and I have to isntall mozilla-mplayer and in turn this one installs mplayer when I already have kmplayer04:13
chalaberawtf??04:13
paknefiashould i install them first?04:13
chalaberastdin: I hope KDE4 will beat O$$ X Leopard04:13
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stdinchalabera: target release date is in october04:14
chalaberasame as Leopard04:14
Nylehow do I configure my sound in kubuntu? There is no alsaconf utility04:14
chalaberastdin: you got the link?04:14
stdinpaknefia: make sure you have dbus and hal installed then04:14
kristjan_stdin: yeah it was alpha. not usable for end-user04:14
nimbleI thought leopard was supposed to be released pretty soon.04:15
stdinkristjan_: Alpha2 was only released on the 4th04:15
stdinchalabera: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule04:16
chalaberastdin: no, the LiveCD04:16
stdinchalabera: I gave you the link04:16
stdinchalabera: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/3.91.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.2.iso04:17
kristjan_stdin: oh. then I will give it a try!04:17
Nylehmm04:17
Nyleanyone?04:17
Nyle!sound04:17
kristjan_bot is dead?04:17
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:17
stdinkristjan_: it's not exactly stable, but it just about works :P and you get a preview of plasma and Amarok 204:17
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chalaberayikes!!! are there better fonts than sarif?04:19
jasj_hi04:19
chalaberasarif it's an eyesore on LCD04:19
Tired_1Does compiz/beryl work in Kubuntu Gutsy? Which packages are needed?04:20
jasj_i have a problem with keep my password(web) in the knetworkmanager program04:20
stdinTired_1: ask in #ubuntu+104:20
NyleI turned arts off04:20
Nyleand now my sound works04:20
jasj_knetworkmanager04:20
Tired_1OK, thanks04:20
jasj_I  have a problem with keep my password(web) in the knetworkmanager program04:21
stdinknetworkmanager keeps your password in kwallel04:21
stdin*kwallet04:21
Nylefglrx doesn't support composite or aiglx etc.  Is there any possible way to run beryl or compiz?04:21
Nyledo there exist Xgl on ubuntu, because its not packaged for debian04:21
stdinNyle: use XGL04:21
jasj_YES, BUT KWALLET NEED OTHER PASSWORD04:21
stdin!caps | jasj_04:21
ubotujasj_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:21
Nyledo ubuntu developers get paid?04:22
stdinjasj_: you set the password for kwallet, you could set it to blank too04:22
stdinNyle: some do, some don't04:22
jasj_i hate kwallet, i unistall about 2 minutes ago04:22
Nylekwallet is the beesnees04:22
NyleI love it04:22
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jasj_but you need to write a password when yo login...04:23
Nyleoh shit04:24
Nyleer.. I mean04:24
Nyleoh thats right, my ssh keys got wiped04:24
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jasj_yes, but???04:25
stdinjasj_: like I said, you could have set it to be blank04:25
jasj_really, i can't04:25
stdinyou could have, I did04:25
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stdinif you didn't then you'd have to delete the wallet and start over04:26
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jasj_i try when i uodate my kubuntu, but .... i cant04:26
jasj_ok04:26
stdinor just put the wep key in system settings04:26
jasj_how??04:27
jasj_okoko i did04:28
jasj_tanks04:28
stdinsystem settings -> Network Settings ->04:28
stdinput in the web key and SSID04:28
Nyleis there a w32codecs package in ubuntu?04:32
NyleI migrated from debian and I dunno where half the things in ubuntu are04:32
ardchoille!info w32codecs04:32
ubotuw32codecs: Win32 codec binaries. In component extras, is optional. Version 20061022-1~seveas1 (feisty-seveas), package size 13920 kB, installed size 33580 kB (Only available for i386)04:32
crimsunno, there isn't.04:32
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crimsunyou can use a third-party repository, however.04:33
Nyleif I just get them from debian-multimedia it would work?04:33
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crimsunprobably.04:33
Minatakucrimsun: Don't split pubes and confuse people :P04:33
stdinNyle: yeah, it's all the same stuff04:33
Nyleword04:33
MinatakuNyle: w32codecs is available from !seveas04:33
Nylethanks04:33
Nyle!seveas04:33
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:33
ardchoilleNyle: It's not a good idea to use packages from other distros04:33
MinatakuWhich will probably be far easier and less troublesome to do04:34
MinatakuWhile *buntu is based on Debian I'm apt to doubt the differences are 100% compatible04:34
Nyleardchoille: w32codecs are just binary codecs which get unpacked in /usr/lib/w32 etc.04:34
stdin /usr/lib/codes actually04:34
ardchoilleNyle: It doesn't mater, it's best to stick with packages that were built for ubuntu04:35
Nyleardchoille: yes04:35
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Nylefetching w32codecs now04:39
Nyleis kmplayer based on mplayer?04:39
NyleI don't care what media player I use, I just need one where I can rewind/forward using mousewheel04:39
Nylemplayer usually has these bindings in by default for mouse btns04:39
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Nyledo you guys know of another player with similar functionality?04:40
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stdinI just use standard mplayer04:40
ardchoillemplayer is q nice bit of kit, hard to find a better one.04:40
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stdinVLC isn't bad too04:41
stdinohh, and VLC from SVN uses Qt!!04:41
ardchoillevlc doesn't support closed captions04:41
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NyleI'll stick with mplayer04:43
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NyleI moved from debian, so my ~ contains all my configs from it04:43
Nylehopefully I wouldn't have to configure anything in mplayer it should read my settings from ~/04:44
jasj__hi i reinstall my kwallet application, but i can not change the password, wath i have to do??04:44
jasj__tanks04:44
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stdinjasj__: delete the wallet in kwalletmanager04:45
ramyhello04:45
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ramyhow i can connect to another server by konversation04:45
ramy?????????????????????????????????????????????????04:45
theurs_!smplayer04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
stdinramy: F704:46
Nylesweet04:46
ramyi have to know the host name ?04:46
ramyi want to get firstly the list of servers ?04:46
stdinthat's not in konvi04:47
Minataku     04:47
MinatakuWell, some may04:47
stdinyou can add a list to the server list (F2)04:47
Nylewhat the shit?04:47
MinatakuNot too likely in my experience, though04:47
jasj__ok i write in run comman kwalletmanager and the png change but, when I press intro, do not happen any thing04:47
NyleMinataku: wth04:47
nimbleDoesnt look like a nice font anyway really.04:47
stdinjasj__: look in the system tray04:48
NyleTerminus ftw04:48
Minatakunimble: It's probably whatever junk Kubuntu defaults to when substituting04:48
jasj__yes i saw tanks ainga04:48
jasj__again04:48
MinatakuIt's fullwidth characters04:48
nimbleAh.04:48
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jasj__perfect, tanks nyle04:49
Nyleterminus is the shizboo04:51
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Minataku04:51
Nyleso is DejaVu Serif Condensed04:51
NyleI can't live without these two fonts04:51
Nyleand kwin-baghira pwnz04:51
NickPrestaBitstream Vera Mono = my love. ;)04:51
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Nyle04:53
Nyleahh its backwards04:53
Nyle:(04:53
Nylehow do I make my language go fro right to left04:53
Nyle is what I speak :D04:54
Nylesweet, utf kicks bytt04:54
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Minatakutesting, hahaha!04:56
MinatakuRLO - Right-to-Left Override04:56
Morkaianyone in here use beryl ?04:56
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Minataku04:57
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hitmanWillyMorkai: used to, whats the prob?04:57
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Morkaisorry, ok i fixed my problem heh05:00
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hitmanWilly:)05:01
Morkaii didn't know wherea setting was, so i waso n google when i asked05:01
Morkaitwo times the help i figure :P05:01
Morkaithanks for offering though heh05:01
Morkaijust installed it and enjoying the awesomeness05:01
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hitmanWillyquiet tonight...05:08
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klobstertoo quiet for the girls05:09
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klobsterhey what are the gnome packages I need to run gnome junk in KDE?05:09
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stdinklobster: just install the gnome/gtk app and it's dependencies will be installed too05:10
klobsterI got this msg so I wasn't sure...05:11
klobster(gst-compprep-0.8:6374): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libhttp.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libhttp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)05:11
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stdinklobster: ahh, that's gnome-vfs, the equivalent of kio-slaves05:12
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K-RyanPsssst05:12
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klobsterK-ryan, I think you sprung a leak05:12
K-Ryan=)05:13
K-RyanI installed Kubuntu just now, well a few hours ago on an old hard drive.05:13
K-RyanIt's there, except I'm having quite some trouble05:13
K-RyanNow, there was trouble getting Kubuntu to boot off the Live CD so I took the hard drive, put it in a different computer and installed it on the hard drive in the other computer.05:13
K-RyanTook the hard drive out and put it in the computer I want it in.05:14
klobsterstdin: is it something I should avoid installing?05:14
K-RyanIt started coming up with I/O buffer errors05:14
K-RyanSo I had it ignore, then rewrite05:14
K-RyanOver and over and over05:14
K-RyanThen more stuff05:14
K-Ryanover and over and over05:14
K-RyanNow this time it looked like it was booting okay05:14
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stdinklobster: no, you could even have both gnome and kde installed at the same time05:14
MinatakuYou can have a ton of WMs/DEs all at once05:15
K-RyanIt went to the terminal for a split second then to the kubuntu loading splash screen05:15
stdinK-Ryan: looks like there may be PFUs on the drive05:15
K-RyanAnd it's hanging there05:15
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K-RyanPFU?05:15
stdinK-Ryan: Physical F*** Ups05:15
stdin:p05:15
stdinbad sectors and the like05:15
K-Ryan=(05:16
stdinthat's normally what I/O errors are about05:16
MinatakuWhat are the errors?05:16
K-RyanI don't know, I don't see them now05:17
MinatakuGive them here, they should have descriptions05:17
MinatakuLook in dmesg05:17
MinatakuThey're saved there05:17
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K-RyanI can't look anywhere05:17
K-RyanIt's hanging at the loading thing05:17
chipbuddyso i'm using ubuntu... but that channel is hella crowded... and this kubuntu channel is cooler anyway.05:18
chipbuddyi just got 2 monitors working by editing xorg.conf, but beryl doesn't want to work anymore05:18
klobsternot cool enough to run KDE :(05:19
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stdinchipbuddy: best place to ask about dual monitors + beryl is in #beryl05:19
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chipbuddythanks stdin05:19
stdinmaybe when I get a stable X I'll try beryl with multiple displays05:20
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makuseruhi, i have a HP DVD Writer, and it burns CDs fine, and it reads DVDs fine, but  when ever i try to burn a DVD it wont do it, it just gives me errors. Ive tried K3B, Nero For Linux, and a few other programs, what could be causing this?05:43
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K-RyanThe DVDs are good?05:45
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makuseruthe blanks i have?05:47
chalaberahow can i receive Yahoo mail in Kontact?05:47
chalaberathanks05:47
K-RyanYeah the blanks, they're good right?05:47
makuseruyes05:47
K-RyanStrange, I'm not good with that stuff though, sorry05:47
makuserubrand new memorex dvds+r05:48
theurs_show errors05:48
makuserui dont remember what they were, ill need to try to burn one again05:48
makuseruill do that now05:48
MinatakuHm05:48
chalaberacan I recieve mail from AOL, Yahoo and Hotmail with Kontact?05:48
Minatakumakuseru: Which HP?05:49
makuserulemme check05:49
MinatakuI've got a DVD740, last I tried to use it, it failed entirely, Linux refused to access ut05:49
Minataku*it05:49
makuserudvd writer dvd200i05:49
Minatakuthough that's probably something stupid I did05:49
MinatakuAh05:49
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MinatakuOn the plus side, the internal CD burner works05:50
MinatakuSo I haven't tried to fix it yet05:50
MinatakuXD05:50
makuserumine burns CDs fine too05:50
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makuseruits a dvd 200j not i05:51
hitmanWillychalabera: should support any pop3/imap acct, if it has mail functionality05:51
hitmanWilly!info kontact05:52
ubotukontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 1596 kB, installed size 3436 kB05:52
Nylewow05:52
NyleI like kubuntu05:52
NyleI tried 5 and 605:52
Nylebut 7.04 is bomb05:52
MinatakuI've got a NetBSD/sgimips machine running :305:52
MinatakuHow many of you can say that!?05:53
MinatakuSorry... I'm bored05:53
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NyleI've got two sparcs05:53
MinatakuWhat kind?05:53
Nyleold old old05:53
stdinthe BSDs are insane05:53
Nylethis guy i knew from cyberarmy05:53
MinatakuBTW, those aren't sgimips but cool anyway05:53
Nylehe sold it to me at college05:53
MinatakuNice05:53
MinatakuNyle: Got 'em nearby? I'd love to know what kind05:53
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MinatakuI've got the following: SPARCstation 5/170, SPARCstation 10, Ultra 1, Ultra 2, Ultra 505:54
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MinatakuI also have in waiting a SPARCstation 2 and a SPARCbook 3GX05:54
hitmanWillyBSD is actual Unix ported to the PC vice a clone written from scratch, so it will be a little more intensive :P05:54
Nylethey are in my attic05:54
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MinatakuCurrent BSDs have no AT&T code05:55
hitmanWillyreally? i thought they still had that in there....05:55
MinatakuActually, the modern BSDs are forked from 386BSD05:55
MinatakuWhich was a BSD clone, IINM05:55
MinatakuWell, it may have been a port05:55
MinatakuI'm not quite sure05:55
stdindepends if the AT&T code is under the BSD license05:55
MinatakuBut yeah, the open source BSDs are devoid of USL code05:55
MinatakuUSL being Unix Systems Laboratories05:56
hitmanWillyi thought the original BSD was basically a Unix port for academia, which is why the license is like it is05:56
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MinatakuThe original BSD was based off of 6th Edition Unix05:57
MinatakuWhich was acquired under educational license by UCB from AT&T/Bell Labs05:57
NyleMinataku: ultra5 sparc05:57
hitmanWillybut to be fair, I really don't know much on the subject05:57
NyleIIi05:57
MinatakuNyle: Not bad05:57
MinatakuYeah, the cheapo Suns used the UltraSPARC-IIi modules05:58
MinatakuThe cheapo ones being the Ultra 5 and Ultra 1005:58
NyleI bought it for 50 bucks05:58
MinatakuNot too bad05:58
MinatakuConsidering it's original worth was 100x that05:58
MinatakuMy Ultra 5 was donated to me free of charge05:59
Nylewell05:59
NyleI also have 3 blue leviathans05:59
Nyle3 alpha black lotus cards05:59
Minataku??05:59
Nyleand some other rare MTG cards05:59
Nylemagic the gathering05:59
Minatakulol05:59
Nyle:D05:59
hitmanWillyok, for a minute there, i thought i was WAY out of my league :P06:00
MinatakuYeah, he changed topic all of a sudden XD06:00
MinatakuConfused the hell outta me06:00
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hitmanWillyi was actually thinking the blue leviathon was some sort of obscure refence to IBM iron :)06:01
MinatakuHeh, same06:02
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makuserui have a DVD burning now so i can see errors06:02
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hitmanWillymakuseru: if its generating a log file, that helps as well, so you can dig through it later06:03
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makuserudoes K3B do that?06:05
hitmanWillymakuseru: i would think so06:06
makuseruwhere06:07
makuserudoes it put it06:07
hitmanWillynot sure, hold on...06:07
makuserualright06:07
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makuseruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28755/ error report from K3B06:09
hitmanWillymakuseru: ok, probably with the project...06:09
klobsterwhay cant I have totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at the same time?06:10
hitmanWillylooks like it can't write to the disk for some reason06:10
hitmanWillymakuseru: or even access it...06:11
hitmanWillymakuseru: can you try with cdrecord by itself?06:12
chalaberaI hate java apps06:12
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chalaberathey are glitchy as hell06:12
chalaberawhy code on that crap of language?06:13
TheSourcehey i just installed kubuntu06:13
TheSourceno clue how to install java06:13
TheSourcefor firefox06:13
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hitmanWillyit used to be the only distributed language avilable06:13
stdinTheSource: install "sun-java6-plugin"06:13
TheSourceahhhh06:13
chalaberaOOPS, your java version is too old [java = 1.4.2-02] 06:13
chalaberaoh ok06:13
chalaberaI know now why it wasn't working06:13
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stdinchalabera: sudo update-alternatives --config java06:14
makuseruhitmanWilly: what is cdrecord?06:14
stdinchalabera: then do "java -version" to check06:14
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hitmanWillymakuseru: its a cmd line tool to burn cds,06:14
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hitmanWilly!info cdrecord06:15
ubotucdrecord: Dummy transition package for wodim. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB06:15
makuseruhow would i use it to try to burn a cd?06:15
chalaberastdin: thanks it worked06:15
hitmanWillymakuseru: cdrecord --help should give a list of options06:15
makuserualright06:16
chalaberahey I wonde why Java apps take insanely ammounts of RAM?06:17
stdinbecause it's java06:18
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pfeinI've lost (quit) the little systray applet that tells me my battery level... how do I get it back?06:20
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stdintry running "guidance-power-manager"06:20
Dr_willisRight click on the panel, use the add applet thang?06:22
stdinit's not an applet06:23
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hitmanWillyi don't understand why anybody would use java anymore, with python available06:23
stdin"as such"06:23
saucissonbye bye everyone :D06:24
Dr_willisbecause they understand java , and dont know python. :)06:24
saucissonciao06:24
Dr_willisI dont know either very well.. so i'll use REXX !06:24
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hitmanWillythat's probably it, but python has a pretty shallow learning curve06:24
hitmanWillyoh well06:25
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pfeinstdin: yeah, that was it06:25
pfeinstdin: yeah, that was it06:26
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stdinecho... echo....06:26
pfeinstdin: yeah, it's not in the add applet thing, or any menu.06:27
Dr_willisthe whole 'OOP' type programing stuff.. eludes me. :) I learned programing on a C64 ages ago.. with flowcharts and GOTO's!06:27
chalaberaok his is retarded, Kmail is not installed as default in Kubuntu? What else KDE4 is being chopped off?06:28
theurs_why not use gmail web06:28
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hitmanWillytheurs_: cause some of us don't have gmail accts :P06:29
makuseruhitmanWilly: i dont understand how to use that06:29
Dr_willissoon to be renamed perhaps somthing OTHER then gmail. :)06:29
pfeinstdin: #kde suggested kpowersave, what's the diff?06:29
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stdingmail = google mail06:29
hitmanWillymakuseru: ok, don't worry about it then, i think k3b is a frontend for it anyway06:30
klobsterI use gmail IN kmail...06:30
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makuseruwell what can i do to burn a DVD?06:30
hitmanWillymakuseru: have you tried running k3b with kdesu to make sure it isn't a perms issue?06:30
Dr_willismakuseru,  i use k3b06:30
stdinpfein: kpowersave is a different app alltogether, guidence is a backend, so works on ubuntu and kubuntu etc06:30
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makuserui havent tried that06:31
makuseruill try now06:31
pfeinstdin: yeah... any preference for one or the other?06:31
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stdinpfein: I just use guidance, does what I need it to do06:32
stdinpfein: but k powersave shares a lot of the same features06:32
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stdinand it may even tie in with KDE better, not sure06:32
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stdinbtw, expect longer battery life in Gutsy with the tickless kernel06:33
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K`zanHi folks, adept hung and I had to kill it and now it still thinks it is running (even after a reboot), I looked at /var/lock and nothing there - any suggestions on how to clear this appreciated!06:34
K`zanl .kde06:34
Dr_willis!fixadept06:34
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:35
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pfeinstdin: thanks06:35
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ubuntutrying out ubunto live cd.. however, I've found I can't direct connect with msger06:35
K`zandpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments06:35
stdinK`zan: if that fails, remove the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock06:35
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THEBlack0rchidhow can I direct connect via IM06:36
K`zanstdin: Worked, thank you Sir!  Now to see if I can install vmware-server without it hanging.06:36
K-RyanTHEBlack0rchid: It depends on the program, if the program can direct connect.06:37
Dr_willisTHEBlack0rchid,  clarify what you are trying to do and with what programs06:37
THEBlack0rchidjust using Konversation right now.. I don't see the option in that06:37
Dr_willisthe various 'dcc' items do direct connections/chat/shares/transfers06:38
THEBlack0rchidwhat program will allow me (under ubunto) to direct connect with an AIM user06:38
Dr_willisBut i havent used them in ages.06:38
Dr_willisAIM - is another story06:38
Dr_willis!aim06:38
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.06:38
K-RyanDunno about DCing06:38
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THEBlack0rchidI guess I didn't see the option under kopete to dcc06:38
K-RyanThere isn't one is there?06:38
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THEBlack0rchidnot that I've seennn06:39
THEBlack0rchidseen06:39
Dr_willisNo idea. I use Xchat. :)06:39
Dr_willisi havent dcc'd in ages06:39
makuserusame error using kdesu k3b06:39
THEBlack0rchidI use xchat for IRC usually..06:39
THEBlack0rchidbut.. I need a dcc for an AIM user06:40
hitmanWillydoes /dcc work?06:40
Dr_willisthen you need an AIM client.. not irc.06:40
THEBlack0rchidnope.. the other user is under trillian06:40
K-RyanWine + AIM?06:40
Dr_willisgaim is nice i hear.06:40
Dr_willisi dont use aim much either. :)06:40
makuserugaim is nice06:40
Dr_willisAll the Cool Kids hang out on IRC>06:40
THEBlack0rchidI don't ever use AIm06:40
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makuseruwhat do i do about my DVD Burner?06:41
THEBlack0rchidok.. so gaim should do a dcc with an AIM user/trillian?06:41
hitmanWillymakuseru: it sounds like maybe a HW issue06:41
makuseruTHEBlack0rchid: yes, it does06:41
makuseruHW?06:41
hitmanWillyhardware06:41
makuseruah06:41
THEBlack0rchidk.. thank you sweetie06:41
makuserubut why would it burn a cd fine, and read a dvd fine but not burn a dvd?06:41
Dr_willisdosent dvd's use differnet laser? or am i confused.06:42
makuserudo they?06:42
makuserui dont know06:42
Dr_willisI had a CD writer once that could read, but not write.06:42
hitmanWillymakuseru: ok, stupid question here, but it IS a dvd burner, correct?06:42
Dr_willisI was thinking one of its lasers went out.06:42
makuseruyes06:42
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  :)06:42
hitmanWillyhey, you laugh...06:42
makuseruit says DVD Writer DVD 200j on the front of ir06:42
Dr_willisthey are DVD+R and you dont need -R's ?06:43
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Dr_willisor visa-versa06:43
makuseruthey are +R06:43
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makuseruive tried -R's too though06:43
Dr_willisGot some old drives ehre that can only do -R's06:43
makuseruthis is fairly new06:43
K-Ryan-R? +R? What's the difference?06:43
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: different encoding formats06:44
K-RyanI honestly had no idea what it meant06:44
K-RyanReally06:44
Dr_willisI got a few old laptops that cant read +R's06:44
makuserume either06:44
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Dr_willisMain Diff to me is 'what one is on sale this week'06:44
Dr_willis:)06:44
makuseruwould a hammer fix it06:44
makuseruit fixes everything else06:44
makuserusortof06:45
hitmanWillymakuseru: ok, im at a loss here, you may try googling the drive to see if there are any known issues under nix06:45
makuseruit makes me feel better06:45
chalaberahi06:45
chalaberait's telling me "no cddb found"06:45
chalaberak3b06:45
chalaberahow do I donwload that?06:45
makuserui think im just going to give up on it, the whole computer is a p.o.s, i need a new one06:45
Dr_willis cddb - isent that the database for music files?06:46
hitmanWillyyup06:46
Dr_willisjust use a shell-based front end to cdrecord! :006:46
Dr_willis!find cdrecord06:46
chalaberaDr_willis: yeah but how do I download it?06:46
ubotuFound: cdrecord06:46
chalaberak3b is complaining about it06:46
K-RyanAhahahahaaha06:46
K-Ryan!botsnack06:46
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:46
hitmanWillychalabera: its not something you download, its looks up cd info in it when you go to rip it06:47
Dr_willisyou ripping a cd? or burning one?06:47
hitmanWillychalabera: its a VERY large online database06:47
chalaberaripping it06:47
Dr_willisset up the cddb settings properly.. Or use some other ripper tool. :) I tend to use 'grip' myself.06:48
chalaberait won't rip without the database?06:48
Dr_willisive never ripped a cd with k3b. Lets see.06:48
Dr_willisIt access the online database,, to get the proper names/tracks/info06:48
makuserui like kaffine for ripping06:48
Dr_willisIf its a non-comercial cd. it may not be in the database06:48
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chalaberaok i use kaffeine06:49
Dr_willis!find k3bmp306:49
ubotuPackage/file k3bmp3 does not exist in feisty06:49
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Dr_willisinfolibk3b2-mp306:49
Dr_willis!infolibk3b2-mp306:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about infolibk3b2-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:49
hitmanWillychalabera: ok, go into settings --> configure k3b --> cddb --> remote --> enable remote cddb queries06:50
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K-RyanWould anybody happen to have any computer worth sending my way? =)06:50
hitmanWillychalabera: and make sure you have an entry in the server list06:51
chalaberakaffeine found the CDDB just fine06:51
K-Ryan*computers06:51
hitmanWillychalabera: k3b probably isn't set up right, try those menu settings i listed06:52
Dr_willisk3b here - is set by default to use the cddb stuff..06:52
Dr_willisodd.06:52
Dr_williswell night all.06:52
klobsterwhat is the diff between sum and cksum?06:52
chalaberaIt is already enabled in k3b06:52
hitmanWillyhmmm, weird06:52
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chalaberawhat's a kewl superkaramba for sys info?06:54
hitmanWillyoh well, later all06:54
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Delphinus1 handed (left only) typing... dvorak or half qwerty?06:56
purpleposeidonheyo, got a couple of problems here...06:57
purpleposeidonWhen I boot up, I get an error, "Truncating file to 0 bytes", every time, and something about bogus file sectors06:58
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K-Ryanpurpleposeidon: The chat is a little empty at the moment so it might take longer to get a response.07:01
K-RyanI'd help but I don't know what to do about something like that, sorry07:01
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purpleposeidoneh, well I have a vague suspicion of fsck....07:01
jbraddocOkay I have a few questions, I think the easiest way is to just ask... 1: When I ran the term app on kubuntu, it froze x and restarted it. and 2: When I have x set at a resolution above 800x600 I get four or five columns going through my screen (lines that seem to seperate). The sys is a pIII 700 (i think) compaq deskpro en with 256 mb, 10 gb, intel chipset.07:03
jbraddochrmm07:03
jbraddocwhopps.. my mistake -- i forgot something07:03
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jbraddocI am not using K on this machine.. I am using Xubuntu...07:03
jbraddocforget my q's unless anyone can help?07:03
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jbraddocSorry, I have another machine running K..07:04
jbraddocI was thinking of that one, working on the other one, and confused my self.07:04
chalaberawhy is taking so slow ripping it? m$$ player does it faster07:05
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sajacjrlist07:15
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Daisuke_Ido<chalabera> why is taking so slow ripping it? m$$ player does it faster < so use windows and quit whining about it?07:20
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jzillawhats the thing called that tries to restore your previous session by launching whatever you had open before you reboot07:31
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AyabaraI'm looking for a lightweight desktop search tool that I forgot the name of. KDE app that you use from Konqueror. Anyone got a name for it? :-)07:38
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K-RyanKatapult07:39
K-RyanOh, use from Konqueror07:39
K-RyanNo clue07:39
MarcCbeagle KIOSlave?07:40
MarcChttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2843707:40
MarcCah, Ayabara, or this: http://kioclucene.objectis.net/07:41
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SRN9Anyone know how to fix an Apt-get issue?07:42
MarcCSRN9: try me07:42
AyabaraMarcC, K-Ryan, thanks for input. I stumbled over it at google. Strigi was the one I was looking for :-)07:42
K-RyanAh, glad you found what you were looking for07:42
MarcCdang, ok :D07:43
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SRN9well I have an issue here I try to "Apt-get update" and i get an error that points to "cannot connect to local machine" I know this is my machine it is talking about but how would I go about correcting this issue?07:43
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SRN9streegee?07:44
MarcCSRN9: sounds like a correction needs to be made in sources.list07:44
MarcCto point to network resources instead of CD maybe07:44
MarcCbtw hard G or soft G07:44
K-Ryanstr-eye-gee07:45
K-Ryanhard07:45
K-RyanIs how I'd say it07:45
MarcCgee as in "jeeeez" or gee as in "guh-eeee"07:45
K-Ryanjee07:45
MarcCthat's like one of those things you use to clean your car's windshield07:46
MarcC;)07:46
K-Ryansqueegee07:47
K-Ryan=P07:47
MarcCah right :D07:48
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Ayabarahehe. have you guys read "The meaning of Liff"?07:48
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Ayabarahehe, have you guys scanned "The meaning of Liff"?07:49
MarcCnope07:50
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Ayabarayou should :-)07:52
MarcCwell maybe I will07:52
MarcChey, that's a pretty cool idea, I'm liking it07:53
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Black_MonkeyAyabara: was that the one by Douglas Adams?08:03
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Ivishi, i know this is not right chanel to ask but i need a help please.... i need a people who listen dj tiesto08:06
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MarcCtry "man dj-tiesto"08:07
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K-Ryanlvis: PvD > Tiesto08:08
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K-RyanAvB > Tiesto08:08
Ivis:D08:08
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K-RyanCorsten > Tiesto08:09
MarcCRandom artist from Archive.org > Tiesto08:09
K-Ryanlol08:09
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K-RyanWhat about Tiesto?08:09
MarcCTiesto > Tiesto08:09
MarcChttp://www.archive.org/details/BEVLARS3108:10
Ivisi need one song but i don't know hes name i remember sing "tell me how u fill" and thats all but i want that song tooo much08:10
SRN9well Im back... it was the anon package... seems to be working.08:10
K-RyanI was talking to lvis =P08:10
MarcCI must improve my strength08:10
MarcCSRN9: cool :)08:10
K-Ryanlvis: No idea, sorry08:10
IvisK-Ryan,  ohh ok thanks anyway08:10
MarcCIvis: thanks though, that's the funniest thing I've read all day08:10
MarcCbut no idea08:10
IvisMarcC,  my english is wery bad im now study english08:11
MarcCIvis: I understand, you should listen to my Japanese sometime08:11
K-Ryan"<coz_> morning all" "<K-Ryan> GOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!"08:11
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K-Ryan=)08:11
IvisJapanese songs? o_O08:11
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MarcCsure Ivis, I do enka covers on a clarinet all the time08:12
Ivisohh ok but i don't understand :D08:12
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K-RyanIt's just one of those things lvis, don't worry about it08:13
MarcChooooreta, ooomae ni horetaaaaa08:13
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MarcCetc.08:13
Ivis:)08:13
Ivisohh i got one question if my friend is totaly newbie in linux it's good if i set up him edubuntu?08:14
Daisuke_Ido!offtopic08:14
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:14
MarcC!moderators08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moderators - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
K-Ryanlvis: edubuntu is geared for students, not new people to linux08:14
MarcCmoderators, do you speak it?08:15
K-RyanDaisuke_Ido: It's quiet in here, give us a break =P08:15
IvisK-Ryan,  ohh i think is for new08:15
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K-RyanNope, for a new person just give 'em Kubuntu or Ubuntu, whichever he likes more08:15
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Ivisok :) thx for info08:15
Ivisi hear somthing abaout 7.10 version08:16
MarcCIvis: if a Windows user, Puppy Linux is also good, but Ubuntu works great08:16
Ivisdo u know somthing?08:16
chalaberahi08:16
IvisMarcC,  Puppy with desktop he use?08:16
chalaberawhat's that note making program for KDE?08:17
K-Ryankate?08:17
chalaberais like something else than knote08:17
K-Ryannano?08:17
MarcCIvis: default is Rox08:17
MarcCwith JVM08:17
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MarcCor JWM08:17
IvisMarcC,  thanks i find in google about puppy08:17
MarcCchalabera: basket notepads?08:17
alucardromeroHeh.08:17
Ivisits cool for new08:17
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Ivispeople i think08:17
alucardromeroGoodness...lots of people.08:17
MarcCIvis: if you try Puppy, don't install it to the HD - it runs off the CD and doesn't use the CD motor much08:18
curiosityKILLEDmhi Alu08:18
alucardromeroHiyee. :)08:18
curiosityKILLEDmhello everyone08:18
K-RyanHowdy08:18
curiosityKILLEDm:P08:18
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MarcC!longintroductions08:19
MarcCdang08:19
IvisMarcC,  i need to set up to my friend hee is windows user but when he see my linux  he want to try he doesn't knows whats its terminal and i search somthing easy for him to first steps08:19
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MarcCIvis: Puppy is a good one, it has many "wizards" to easily setup the network, sound, etc.08:20
MarcCIvis: but I don't know about non-English if you need that08:20
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alucardromeroThat's what it seems like.08:21
IvisMarcC,  thanks em.... how to install there a soft? via terminal package?are he has a add/remove08:21
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Ivisore mybe he has somthing like sudo apitude08:22
makuseru!libxml08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
makuseru!libxml208:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
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MarcCIvis: there is a "dot pup package manager" and there are lots of "dot pup" packages available at the puppy forum08:22
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IvisMarcC,  it's great!!! thanks08:24
MarcCIvis: no problemo08:24
Ivisit's perfect to my friend i hope all my friends go smarter and use Linux :)08:24
Ivismy dream is Gentoo but its too hard to me now08:26
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MarcCIvis: my dream in 1996 was to install Linux with X-windows working ;)08:28
Ivisohh u are old user08:28
MarcCin 2004 I discovered that I just needed to configure my monitor xD08:28
Iviscool08:28
Ivisi use linux 5 month08:28
Ivisand i knows somthing about linux was created by Linus torvalds 1984 year think08:29
MarcCIvis: excellent, glad to hear you enjoy it08:29
Ivis:)08:29
MarcCnight08:29
IvisMarcC,  u use kubuntu?08:29
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MarcCyes :)08:29
MarcCgoing to bed now, good night/guten nacht/etc.08:30
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Ivisohh08:30
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Ivisbye08:30
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K-Ryan!jwm08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
K-Ryan!jvm08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
makuseruhi, i was trying to 'make' somthing and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found" so i did a "sudo apt-get install libxml-2.0" and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found", how can i get this package?08:33
K-Ryanit wouldn't say "required by 'compiz-cube', not found"08:34
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makuseruK-Ryan: it does08:35
K-RyanGuess I never noticed that or something08:35
Iviswhat was year when linux was created ?08:35
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Ivis198408:35
Ivis?08:35
K-RyanI get a plain old08:35
K-RyanE: Couldn't find package libxml-2.008:35
makuseruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28762/ look at like 508:36
makuseruline*08:36
K-RyanHah08:36
K-RyanWow08:36
K-RyanOh whoa whoa whoa08:37
K-RyanI thought you meant it said that after typing in sudo apt-get08:37
K-Ryan!info libxml-2.008:37
ubotuPackage libxml-2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:37
makuseruno08:37
K-RyanMy bad ;)08:37
makuseruno prob08:37
makuserudo you know what i can do to fix it08:38
makuseruhaha08:38
K-RyanIt's not something wrong08:38
K-RyanI can't get it either08:38
K-RyanI just dunno where you can get it08:38
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twosouls82makuseru: it is called libxml208:44
twosouls82!info libxml208:44
ubotulibxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 742 kB, installed size 1436 kB08:44
makuseruits not that08:44
makuserui have that08:44
twosouls82I meant K-Ryan, my bad08:45
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K-RyanI did it for him twosouls82 =P08:45
K-RyanHow do I check uptime?08:45
twosouls82K-Ryan: using "uptime" at the terminal08:46
K-RyanWow08:46
K-Ryan<3 Linux08:46
twosouls82:)08:46
K-RyanI need a Tux shirt or something08:47
twosouls82and a KDE cap, right?08:47
K-RyanEhh...08:47
K-RyanI'm not crazy about KDE08:47
twosouls82omg08:47
K-RyanIt's alright08:47
K-RyanI just happen to like Fluxbox more =)08:48
K-RyanFor now anyway08:48
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twosouls82I might someday08:48
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K-Ryansudo apt-get install fluxbox08:49
twosouls82hehehe08:49
K-Ryanrestart x and you're good to go08:49
K-Ryanthat simple08:49
K-Ryantry it ;)08:49
K-RyanI love it08:49
IvisK-Ryan, u use kubuntu?08:49
K-RyanJust remember that right click on the desktop opens your app menu08:49
K-RyanYes lvis08:49
K-RyanWell not even app menu, but your whole menu thing08:50
Ivisohh i think u use somthing like gentoo if u know a lot linux :)08:50
K-RyanI know enough to get me through most things08:50
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K-RyanBut I'm still rather new08:51
Ivis:)08:51
K-RyanBeen around for 8-9 months08:51
Ivisin linux world?08:51
K-RyanYeah08:51
K-RyanSo Gentoo is still beyond my reach08:51
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K-RyanI'm learning at my leisure08:51
Ivisme 5 month it's bad to all info is in english i bad know im study eng08:51
K-RyanThey have stuff in other languages08:52
makuseruK-Ryan: why do you like gentoo so much?08:52
K-RyanI don't like/dislike it08:52
K-RyanNever tried it, barely know what it's like08:52
IvisK-Ryan,  yea i know in my langue have info but that info is worse08:52
K-Ryanlvis: what's your primary language?08:52
IvisLatvian08:52
makuseruK-Ryan: Gentoo < Ubuntu08:52
K-Ryan=P08:52
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K-RyanLatvian, you're the first I've met to speak it.08:53
K-RyanYour English is decent though, I commend you on that08:53
makuseruK-Ryan: do you have any eyecandy insalled?08:53
IvisK-Ryan,  :)08:53
K-RyanWell in KDE I've got Beryl08:53
makuseruwhy beryl?08:53
makuseruthats old08:53
IvisK-Ryan,  i don't understand a this  English is decent though, I commend you on that08:54
Ivis=/08:54
K-RyanYou speak English very well, congratulations =P08:54
K-Ryanmakuseru: What would you suggest?08:54
IvisThanks :)08:54
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makuserucompiz-fusion08:55
K-Ryan!compiz08:55
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:55
K-RyanXGL, isn't that for Ati cards?08:56
makuseruno08:56
makuserunot compi08:56
makuserux08:56
makuserucompiz*08:56
makuserucompiz is old too08:56
IvisK-Ryan,  one time i install gentoo i think it's easy but when i see the instalation i be shocked i install the system but in 5 min i set up ubuntu :D08:56
makuserucompiz-fusion is the new project by both beryl and compiz's old teams08:56
K-RyanYeah08:56
makuseruand no fglrx is for ATI08:57
IvisK-Ryan,  do u try gentoo?08:57
K-RyanNope08:57
K-RyanStarted with Kubuntu and stuck with it08:57
Ivis:)08:58
Ivismy first linux be slackware08:58
Ivisimho08:58
Ivisall go to source08:58
Ivisworse distr08:58
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Ivisi start my own http://ivo-opensource.blogspot.com/ project to help people who has bad english to latvians09:01
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Ivis:)09:01
K-RyanCool09:02
K-RyanI just took a look09:02
K-RyanI don't speak Latvian, but I could tell what some stuff was09:02
K-RyanMost of it actually...09:02
Ivis:)09:03
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IvisK-Ryan,  from where are u?09:03
K-RyanNew York, USA09:03
Ivisohh cool i love that city my dream is fly to New York it's most bee cool live in new york :)09:04
K-RyanWell I don't live in New York City09:04
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K-RyanBut I go in every once in a while09:04
K-RyanIt's nice09:04
Ivis:) cool latvia is so small country09:05
Ivishttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/eplive/expert/photo/20061123PHT00260/pict_20061123PHT00260.jpg09:06
Ivislatvias "LAT"09:06
IvisLatvia is09:06
Ivis:)09:06
Ivissmall09:06
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K-RyanAh there it is09:10
K-RyanI knew it was in that general area09:10
K-RyanWell it's late here, 3am09:11
K-RyanI'm out, night everyone09:11
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Ivisgood night09:13
Ivis:)09:13
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kainanyone here know how to make a wireless router the hub of another?09:18
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dvmhow to install09:19
dvmthe "Mozilla XPCOM development package"09:19
dvmregards09:19
dvmZoobave09:19
dvmhttp://zoobave.blogspot.com/09:19
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dvmhow to install the "Mozilla XPCOM development package" using apt-get09:22
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GaryvdMI want to install a how lot of packages that were downloaded and installed by adept on one machine on another machine. Can this be done?09:25
GaryvdM*whole09:25
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waylandbillGaryvdM: burn the downloaded packages to cd and place them in /var/cache/apt/archives/09:32
GaryvdMSweet - that is cool09:32
GaryvdMThanks09:32
IvisGaryvdM,  u add rapsoritors via "kate"?09:34
GaryvdMyes09:34
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Ryarenhi!09:40
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edward0is there any site any one would sudgest for grasping/utilizing the commandline09:41
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Ryaren!format09:44
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:44
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dvm howto start kudzu in ubuntu?09:44
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_4strOyop09:45
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dvm how can i scan the hardware changes in ubuntu?09:54
aznpridechinesehow do i enable dapper universe?09:54
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pagaznpridechinese, do you know how to edit sources.list?09:55
aznpridechineseno09:55
aznpridechinesewhat does sources.list do? is it just a list of repositories?09:56
pagaznpridechinese, you can open it in kate byt pressing alt+F2 and typing kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:56
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pagaznpridechinese, yup. just a list.09:56
pag!easysources | aznpridechinese09:56
ubotuaznpridechinese: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:56
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aznpridechinesebut what is dapper?09:57
aznpridechineseoh! is it an earlier version or ubuntu?09:58
pagaznpridechinese, what do you mean? Dapper is an Ubuntu version with long term support, if that's what you meant.09:58
aznpridechineseyah i didn't know what dapper was, cuz on this page it tells me to enable dapper universe or something09:58
pagand yes, it's older than Feisty (newest stable)09:59
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waylandbill!dapper10:18
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".10:18
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LynoureI just installed network-manager-vpnc and restarted knetworkmanager. Now it shows VPN Connections -> Configure VPN... but clicking on it does nothing10:31
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LynoureHow can I get it to work? I'm also ok with cli vpn as long as I don't need to give up knetworkmanager, but cli vpnc would connect and then die/close within 4 minutes, so I thought to try this.10:32
Lynoureok, let's phrase it diffently... Does anyone get vpnc to connect and stay connected for over a minute?10:46
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dwangoacI need to remove \n but not \n\r (i.e. newlines at the end of a line of text, but not paragraph breaks).10:49
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kerncoHow can I have multiple programs play sounds at the same time?11:07
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spark_if you use alsa as your sound server it should be implemted native kernco11:08
kerncoI'm using whatever is default in Kubuntu (I installed clean from Kubuntu CD, didn't install Ubuntu then kubunt-desktop)11:09
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kerncoIt might only be certain programs that monopolize the sound system11:10
kerncoThe Second Life client, for example11:10
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kerncoIt worked in Ubuntu with esound, maybe I should install that.  But then there's sound latency.11:11
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boguhhi, where can i find cd/dvd covers for kubuntu. would like to print one on my copy11:30
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LynoureHow can I keep vpnc from disconnecting every 30s?11:32
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arektest11:33
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arekalibaba11:35
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ArtheaHello11:37
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Artheai'm getting this error when trying to open an ntfs partition that should be mounted11:37
Artheahal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 100011:37
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Artheano one can help me ?11:41
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Artheai'm getting this error when trying to open an ntfs partition that should be mounted hal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 100011:42
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xerosisArthea: is it in your /etc/fstab?11:43
Artheanot sure,haven't checked11:44
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Artheabut permissions should be set ...and still on some i get permission denied,and on other that error11:44
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goldfingermafiahello11:45
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Artheait should be there ?11:46
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Artheaand if not what should i do ? (<--- noob just trying it )11:46
pag!fstab | Arthea11:47
ubotuArthea: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions11:47
pagbot doesn't seem to work :-/11:47
pagoh... :)11:47
Artheai don't have a supported modem so all i do is switching between windows and ubuntu11:47
goldfingermafiacan anyone help me i am trying to install kismet on a macbook and having a major porblem when i run the ./configure command11:47
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paggoldfingermafia, what kind of problem?11:48
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goldfingermafiait says canon find libncurses or libcurses11:48
Artheaso i can't even download the updates/progs with windows then move them to ubuntu since i can't access them11:48
paggoldfingermafia, do you have those installed?11:48
goldfingermafiai have no clue what im doing, im a new linux user, how do i install them?11:49
paggoldfingermafia, well.. first you should probably install build-essential  (open konsole, and type: sudo apt-get install build-essential   )11:50
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paggoldfingermafia, or you can use Adept Manager to do the installations11:50
goldfingermafiai alrady did that11:51
goldfingermafiawhen i run that though it says 4 not upgraded? how do i upgrade them11:51
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paggoldfingermafia, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:52
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paggoldfingermafia, and to solve those libncurses -issues you should probably install libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev11:53
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goldfingermafiapag ty for you help. im going to try thoses out, im running th first one right now and if you still on i will let you know what happend, ty very much11:54
paggoldfingermafia, you're welcome :)11:54
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StFShello... is anyone experiencing major unstability with firefox?11:57
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goldfingermafia_peg are you still on?12:03
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goldfingermafia_was it libcurses5-dev?12:03
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paggoldfingermafia_, libncurses5-dev12:05
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goldfingermafia_thank you sorry for buggin you12:05
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paggoldfingermafia_, no problems :)12:06
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goldfingermafia_it worked!12:07
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paggoldfingermafia_, I'm glad to hear that :)12:07
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goldfingermafia_when i tyrped make install it got an error saying it was not in root?12:09
skullAttackyou need to run the command as root12:09
skullAttackprefix the command with sudo12:09
fsssssssssshcan anyone advise me a good multimessenger? kopete doesnt work for me12:09
goldfingermafia_how do i do that, im the biggest noob in the world12:09
skullAttackok. are you in a terminal?12:09
skullAttackok sorry bad question. firstly, what are you trying to do?12:10
pagfssssssssssh, well.. Gaim / Pidgin is GTK-client, but I've heard it works pretty well12:10
goldfingermafia_skull in trying to install kismet on ubuntu12:10
skullAttackfsssssssssssh, also - aMSN is another good one12:10
skullAttackit has webcam support too ;)12:11
fsssssssssshthx pag12:11
goldfingermafia_i put sudo infron and it failed12:11
fsssssssssshthx skullAttack =)12:11
skullAttacknp12:11
skullAttackso, are you using the Synaptic Package manager?12:11
skullAttackor are you doing it from a "DOS looking" type command line12:11
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goldfingermafia_it says cannot remove '/usr/local/bin/kismet': premission denied12:12
goldfingermafia_im doing it fomr the command12:12
skullAttackok12:12
paggoldfingermafia_, oh... I didn't remember that Kismet has packages in repositories - why not use them?12:12
pag!info kismet12:12
skullAttackyou are trying to install kimset?12:12
ubotukismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB12:12
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goldfingermafia_yes12:12
skullAttackok12:13
ubuntu_Nabend ^ :)12:13
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skullAttackin the console. type - sudo apt-get install kimset12:13
skullAttackif its in the software repository it should install12:13
motuIch hab ein Problem beim installieren ... ich hab jetzt von CD gestartet, aber mir wird meine Festplatte nicht angezeigt... was kann ich tun?12:14
skullAttackittl ask you for a password, which is the password you use to log into the system with your account12:14
pag!de | motu12:14
ubotumotu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:14
goldfingermafia_i alrady did that it says i ahve the newest version12:14
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goldfingermafia_i was on the make, then make install part12:14
skullAttackwell then its installed ;)12:14
goldfingermafia_that is when it failed12:14
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goldfingermafia_if it is installed then were do i find it?? lol12:15
skullAttackin console, type kimset12:15
skullAttackand press enter12:15
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goldfingermafia_ok when i do that is says failed beacuse i dont have a vailed user for suiduser12:16
goldfingermafia_or osmething like that12:16
paggoldfingermafia_, try with sudo   ( sudo kismet )12:16
goldfingermafia_same error12:17
goldfingermafia_it says FATAL could not find user'your_user_here' for droppin priviledges12:17
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ndbwenas12:19
ndbalguien me puede ayudar?12:19
pag!es | ndb12:19
ubotundb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:19
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goldfingermafiasorry guys this thing keeps going dead on me12:20
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skullAttackI cant help you much past this stage sorry goldfingermafia. Im not familiar with the kimset program12:20
goldfingermafiado you knwo what a vaild user set for suiduser means?12:21
skullAttackhm. im not sure, but at a guess id say that your account isnt properly set up to run commands as Super User12:21
goldfingermafiaok will tahnks a bunch skull12:22
skullAttacknp12:22
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drifpeople got any tips to get kubuntu 7.04 server to boot up on my acer aspire 5110? hangs at hardware detection stage12:23
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skullAttackwhat spec is the system?12:23
drifskull: asking me?12:24
skullAttackyes12:24
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drifAMF Turion 64 x2 TL-50, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, SATA HDD - how specific you need?12:25
drifAMD12:25
drif:D12:25
skullAttackk12:25
skullAttacki have a friend who had problems with a Turion12:25
skullAttacktry downloading the Alternate version12:26
drifonly system I've got to boot up has been knoppix, but only in failsafe-mode12:26
skullAttackthat usually gets around lots of problems12:26
skullAttackright. well, if i were you, id google it. turion and kubuntu12:26
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drifbelieve me I've googled - I tend to find things out myself first before hassling anyone else12:27
skullAttackgood man!12:27
skullAttackand you've tried the alt version of the kubuntu image?12:28
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drifskull: nope, that I haven't tried yet - wasn't actually sure (aware) there would be much difference12:29
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skullAttackit has helped a few of my colleagues who had problems with hardware compatibility12:29
skullAttackso i would reccomend trying it, no promises though ;)12:29
drifskull: yup, already booting up that laptop.. although windows so I can fetch that alt one12:30
skullAttackhehe ok12:30
drifskull: and I better google again as well ;) it was way past 4am when I last did it..12:31
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skullAttackheh12:32
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skullAttackyeah try being as specific as possible if it yields nothing useful12:32
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drifskull: only bumped into things such as idle=poll and tried those 'no' keywords under knoppix..but no cigar - some people had used chroot and updated few packages via yum (under FC) to get things working..so alt could very well be the solution12:34
skullAttackhm, i think ill try getting an install of kubuntu working on my powerbook this afternoon12:34
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skullAttackheh, thats a bit over my head. but yeah, alt might be the ticket12:36
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NastXhi12:37
ax1shey12:37
ax1show do i add new  window themes :/12:37
ax1si'm in kcontrol12:38
ax1sbut i can add a style12:38
ax1scan't12:38
NastXi have a problem with the x server12:38
ax1swhat's wrong with it12:38
ax1ssudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:38
NastXafter the installation of the nvidia driver my card tries to control my monitor with 85 hz12:38
skullAttackax1s go to www.kde-look.org12:38
ax1soh12:38
NastXbut it allows only 60 hz12:39
skullAttackok12:39
ax1sskull: ya12:39
ax1soh12:39
ax1si can use theme-manager themese only eh12:39
ax1snot regular kde styles12:39
skullAttackNastX - you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:39
skullAttacksorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:39
ax1s[06:38]  <ax1s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:40
NastXi know but this dowsnt mmake a difference=(12:40
ax1suhm12:40
ax1snasty12:40
NastXdoesnt12:40
NastX?12:40
ax1shave you gone into sudo nvidia-settings12:40
skullAttackyou can edit your xorg.conf file manually if you wish12:40
NastXnope12:40
ax1snastx: run nvidia-settings to change resolution/etc12:40
ax1safter install drivers12:40
skullAttacksudo nvidia-settings12:40
NastXi know but thjere is the maximum frequncy at 6012:40
goldfingermafiathanks again for everyones help see you all later12:40
skullAttack(so that you can save your changes to xorg.conf ;))12:40
skullAttacknp dude, bye bye12:41
ax1snastX; run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first12:41
oohalNastX, i take it your monitor does not support a refresh rate of 85Hz?12:41
ax1sbefore running sudo nvidia-settings12:41
skullAttackoohal: that is correct12:41
oohalwell, the nvidia drivers shouldn't be affecting the refresh rate at all, mind posting your xorg.conf somewhere?12:42
ax1sinstall driver, if it works but the settings are wack, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it up manually, you man have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf after and replace nv with nvidia12:42
skullAttackid say on the whole youd really just want to run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:43
skullAttackas that will avoid confusion12:43
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oohalyou do know that the automatic detection sucks?12:44
skullAttackit gives you a interface to select settings - the monitor settings are at teh end of the program i think. then it saves to your xorg.conf file12:44
skullAttackyou dont have to auto. you can do manual12:44
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oohaleasier to edit xorg.conf directly12:44
skullAttackin the manual monitor setup you specify its size and then the refresh rates12:44
skullAttackyeah, if you are familiar with it12:44
skullAttackassuming the user is green, the above method is easier to work with12:45
oohalit's not particularly difficult to tell what does what12:45
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ax1swow12:45
ax1si'm going to lose it12:45
oohalmeh, anyone using xinerama?12:45
skullAttacki was. but i found it lame with my screen setup12:45
skullAttacki want a setup like the one in Windoze - desktop extension, not spanning12:46
skullAttackcouldnt find a way of doing it in nvidia-settings tho12:46
ax1swhy can't i add just a style12:46
skullAttacksorry ax1s12:46
oohalwell, i like it, but it makes xrandr crash12:46
skullAttackyeah i foudn that12:46
oohaland the monitor section of the system settings crash12:47
oohaloh well12:47
ax1si'm gonna drop ubuntu altogether because of theme management12:47
skullAttackstill very bleeding edge12:47
ax1sand how they've fucked kcontrol up so badly12:47
ax1sthis is terrible12:47
skullAttackyou in ubuntu or kubuntu?12:47
oohalkubuntu12:47
ax1skubuntu12:47
oohalGNOME makes babies cry...12:47
ax1swow thankyou theme for changing my colours but not the style12:48
ax1slike why did they go out of their way to remove the add style button12:48
ax1s??????12:48
ax1smakes absolutely no sense12:48
skullAttackgo to system settings > appearence12:48
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skullAttackthen click style (on the vertical bar on the left)12:49
ax1syah12:49
ax1si see some defaults12:49
ax1si don't see an add style button tho12:49
ax1si see configure12:49
NastX<skullAttack> yeah, if you are familiar with it <- nope sry^^12:49
skaheadhello is there any command to refresh the usb mediums??12:50
skullAttackyeah i think its a case of downloading a style and putting it into a folder12:51
skullAttack1 mo plz ax1s12:51
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skullAttackNastX - use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:52
skullAttackwhen it comes to monitor settings, dont choose the automatic, do it manually12:52
ax1somg12:53
ax1si can't add window decorations12:53
NastXmhhh ok12:53
ax1sor styles12:53
ax1sWTF12:53
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skullAttackax1s if you want a really pimping desktop - check out beryl12:53
ax1si want basic KDE functionality12:53
ax1snot animated windows12:53
skullAttackkk12:53
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ax1slol12:54
ax1sthis is rediclour12:54
ax1srediculous12:54
skullAttackax1s if you go to kde-look.org and go to the forums12:55
skullAttackthere is bound to be a how to there12:55
ax1syeah12:56
ax1si'm there now12:56
ax1shahaha12:56
ax1si'm just a greedy mother12:56
ax1sthey have to be ./installable12:56
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ax1sTake note that styles come in source code or binary package forms. They are not KDE theme files.12:57
skullAttackin ./installable ?12:57
aznpridechinesei need help!12:57
ax1saznpridechinese STATE YOUR PROBLEM12:57
skullAttackax1s: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=912:58
aznpridechinesei'm trying to install beryl glx ontop of kde using the instructions on this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL, i'm getting stuck at downgrading beryl-core from 0.2.1 to 0.2.0, i update the sources.list but i gives me the error when i use synpatics once i start the downgrading process synaptics gives me this error12:58
aznpridechineseW: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/feisty/main/0.2.0/beryl-core_0.2.0~0beryl1_i386.deb12:58
aznpridechinese  404 Not Found12:58
pag!beryl | aznpridechinese12:59
ubotuaznpridechinese: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects12:59
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aznpridechinesei am already in that room but they don't talk!12:59
aznpridechinesebeen in there for 2 hours and nobody has said a single word12:59
ax1saznprincess: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu12:59
ax1sfollow those guides01:00
aznpridechinesedoes it matter that i'm using kubuntu?01:00
skullAttackaznpridechinese01:00
skullAttackno01:00
ax1snot at all01:01
ax1ss'all good01:01
skullAttackdo you have a Nvidia card or an ATI card?01:01
aznpridechinesecool01:01
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skullAttackaznpridechinese: nvidia or ati graphics card?01:01
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ax1seh aznpride01:03
ax1sati or nvidia01:03
skullAttacklol01:03
ax1sgood 2 go01:03
ax1sand i have new styles01:03
ax1swoot01:03
ax1snow i gotta change my colours back tho01:04
ax1sgonna save them this time01:04
ax1sahahahah01:04
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ax1shi zhangkai01:04
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zhangkaihi01:05
zhangkaiaxls01:05
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skullAttackheh nice one ax1s01:06
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dev__hi01:07
skullAttackwoot, just  foudn that the TAB button auto-complete thing works on nicks on Konversation :D01:07
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ax1sskullAttack: ha01:07
skullAttackax1s: did that URL help?01:07
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danyaCan anyone helo !? .. I have been trying to install flash player 901:10
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danyaand when I finally knew how to do it by unpacking the tar.gz file I got the following error01:11
danyaERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the01:11
danya       Adobe Flash Player installer.01:11
ax1shahaha01:11
ax1sbrootal 64 bit01:11
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aznpridechinesecool thanks whoever gave me that link it worked!01:12
aznpridechineseberyl is finally installed and working!01:12
aznpridechinesebut now how do i change to different themes? or where can i download themes and install them?01:12
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ax1sdanya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34172701:12
sochi01:12
ax1saznpride: awesome .. sec01:13
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rrichiehi everyone01:13
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socis there already a kubuntu build of kde 4 alpha 2?01:13
ax1saznpride: http://www.beryl-themes.org01:13
ax1ssoc: i'm curious myself01:13
rrichiei have the same question of soc01:13
sockubuntu.com was quite fast in the past with such things ...01:13
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ax1si thought kde4 was coming out with 7.0401:14
ax1s:/01:14
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TheInfinitykde4 is at alpha2 release01:15
ax1sfound it01:15
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socreally?01:15
ax1shttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php01:15
socthats alpha 101:15
TheInfinityand alpha releases are NOT for productive systems01:15
skullAttackaznpridechinese: when you installed beryl, it should have also installed emerald theme mangager01:15
soci have enough non-productive systems :-)01:15
ax1stheinfinity: anything other then LTS is good for production? heh01:15
skullAttackaznpridechinese: if you right click the red "beryl" stone in your taskbar (by the clock), click emerald theme manager01:15
skullAttackaznpridechinese: you can also change beryls settings by the beryl settings manager there01:16
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TheInfinityax1s: of course - 7.04 for example is also for productive use01:16
amrushskullAttack: when i do that the frames are invisible but functional01:16
TheInfinityLTS has is aspect on server issues01:16
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ax1sTheInfinity: Yah well, most " " opensource softwares haven't ported to 7.0401:17
skullAttackamrush: on the same beryl logo, right click and click reload window manager, and reload window decoratoer01:17
ax1sTheInfinity:  besides, it's aptly named kde4base-dev01:17
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skullAttackif that doesnt work, press ctrl alt and backspace to reload KDE (that usually fixes it) - beryl is still not perfect01:17
amrushskullAttack:tried and never worked01:17
ax1samrush: use control alt on the lefthand side of your keyboard01:18
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skullAttackamrush: make sure you save anything you have open as they will close01:18
ax1sthe first line of the kde4 page states;01:18
ax1sKDE 4 Alpha 101:18
ax1sThe first Alpha release of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Feisty. These are intended for developers only.01:18
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socax1s: we are at alpha 2!01:19
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aznpridechinesei got the emerald themer on but how do i switch to the theme i want? all i can do is just select them01:19
TheInfinityand it has almost no functions ;)01:19
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TheInfinitysome ideas but just for playing around01:19
ax1syah nothing is official01:19
skullAttackaznpridechinese: you click it, and its applied. close the theme manager and ittl stay on the theme you selected!01:19
ax1soh they actually officially bumped the release date for 23/October01:19
jzillahello friends - i just installed the package ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu install - upon logging into gnome, i have no title bars. what could be the problem?01:19
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ax1sjzilla: good question ;] 01:20
skullAttackjzilla: sudo apt-get install gdm01:20
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socax1s: nothing official? http://dot.kde.org/1183569837/01:20
amrushskullAttack .. still not working01:20
jzillaskullAttack: gmd is already the newest version01:21
ax1ssoc: Yah, that's an alpha01:21
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skullAttacki trust you have restarted the system01:21
ax1ssoc: not even an official beta01:21
aznpridechinesecool i didn't notice it before skull, so beryl is only for icons? how about the whole desktop themes like the way kde themer can do? how do i change it with beryl?01:21
jzillaskullAttack: no, lol01:21
jzillabrb01:21
skullAttackaznpridechinese: you change the window decorations with emerald theme manager01:21
amrushyes i did01:21
socax1s: yes it is an alpha ...01:21
skullAttackyou can use the kde themer for the colours of scroll bars, buttons and so on01:21
ax1soctober 23 sounds like an official beta release01:22
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aznpridechineseok cool01:22
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ax1si mean it is wiki, so who can trust it.. but ..   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_401:22
skullAttackaznpridechinese: and to change desktop background, rick click your desktop - configure desktop ;)01:23
danyahi again :D01:23
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ax1smooshi mooshi01:23
danyaguys I'm having a problem with a beryl .. It has been working fine for a day or 2 and yesterday  it just stopped working ..i removed it and installed it again and still it's not working .. any suggestions ?01:24
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spawn57hajimemashte01:24
ax1sdanya: is your 3d working?01:25
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jzillaskullAttack: restart didnt restore title bars, any other ideas?01:25
ax1sdanya: glxinfo|grep direct01:25
skullAttackjzilla - try removing ubuntu-desktop01:26
skullAttackthen try installing gdm01:26
skullAttacki did the same for kde and it worked01:26
ax1si have a problem with that01:26
ax1shad01:26
ax1swhen i installed kubuntu-desktop01:26
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ax1si still had to select GDM as the default manager01:26
danyahow can I check ?01:26
ax1sdanya: glxinfo|grep direct01:26
jzillaill give it a shot01:26
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ax1sthen select KDM as default session01:26
ax1safter01:26
jzillaim on a kubuntu install, and want to use gnome though01:27
aznpridechinesewhy is my screen laggy?01:27
ax1sdayna: glxinfo|grep direct  <-- should say something like direct rendering, yes / no01:27
ax1sjzilla: reverse the steps.. when you re install ubuntu-desktop , select KDM as default manager01:27
ax1sthen at the login window, change it there01:27
jzillaalright01:28
ax1sw0rd01:28
jzillathanks folks01:28
ax1s    * June 27, 2007: Alpha201:28
ax1sAlpha 2 is prepared and released after some initial testing. The incoming bugs will be reviewed for their severity. This release should be beta1 initially, but they decided to call it alpha2 instead because that fits the expectations of the public a little better considering what's in it. However after this release, a new Beta version will be released every month.01:28
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danya glxinfo|grep direct01:29
danyadirect rendering: Yes01:29
ax1sdanya: brutal01:29
ax1sdanya: i mean that's good, but means more trouble shooting lol01:29
ax1sdanya: ati or nvidia01:29
danyaI'm not sure :P .. It's Intel :p01:29
socax1s: there are already suse and osx builds, but no kubuntu builds01:29
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ax1ssoc : of beta1 ? or alpha2 as it's called?01:30
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spawn57damn01:30
icecruncherhow can you get ridd of disk fragmentation on a ext3 hdd?01:30
ax1ssoc: ubuntu would just package it and make it an apt-get01:30
danyaI have installed it from this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_INTEL_cards01:30
spawn57i wonder how fast people are going to port their apps to KDE401:31
ax1sdanya: okay sec01:31
socyes there are builds for suse and kubuntu01:31
socand i wonder if there are debs for ubuntu01:31
socmaybe un kubuntu.com01:31
socthey were quite fast in the past with such packages ...01:32
socbut i don't find anything01:32
ax1ssoc: i think suse and osx have made their own builds of the alpha201:32
ax1ssoc: http://www.kde.org/download/01:32
ax1ssoc: shows there is only binaries for 4.001:33
icecruncheranybody?01:33
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ax1sicecrunch: is the ext3 system your OS filesystem?01:34
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ax1sdanya: when you boot up, hit ESCAPE for grubs loader, and sected the prvious kernel01:34
ax1sdanya: see if that works01:34
socax1s: it seems you don't understand what i say01:34
sochttp://www.kde.org/info/3.91.php01:34
ax1s oh at the bottom01:35
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socon this page there a packages for suse and osx. understood?01:35
ax1si see now01:35
socand i wonder if there will be ubuntu packages added. ok?01:35
icecruncherax1s: yes, and fragmented from torrents01:35
skullAttackyou can run KDE on OSX?01:35
soc^yes?01:35
skullAttack:D01:35
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socat least the applications01:36
skullAttackah01:36
skullAttackstill cool01:36
ax1scan you install the libraries to run any linux code?01:36
socnot the desktop ...01:36
ax1scan't* ?01:36
skullAttackya01:36
skullAttackosx has X11 support01:36
ax1sso you could compile everything yourself01:36
ax1sbut would be dependencey hell01:36
FireHazard17os alreaady can run linux apps01:36
socor you just take the osx packages fro the bottom of the page01:36
ax1ssoc: svn build for kubuntu01:36
ax1ssoc: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE401:36
skullAttacki was running GTK apps from my ubuntu biox on my mac via a ssh -X session :)01:37
socyes i know that01:37
danyawhats a grubs loader ?01:37
soci wanted to know if somebody knows when there will be ubuntu packages01:37
icecruncher!grub | danya01:37
ubotudanya: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:37
ax1ssoc: so all the binaries are already availible in the repositories01:37
skullAttackdanya: it lets you choose what OS you load, and then what linux kernel you boot01:37
FireHazard17and yes you would have to basically compile everything but the kernel it would be total hell01:37
socax1s: and where?01:38
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ax1ssoc: oh it's a compile how-to .. lame01:38
soceven gutsy doesn't ahve them01:38
soc*sigh*01:38
socyou doesn't really read things to the end?01:39
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FireHazard17oh yeah for my question i dont want kde saving mysession aka what was running before my comp turned off  it would be usefull when working but on my home comp it is just annoying01:39
pavel__hi01:40
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ax1ssoc: never, i grab what I need and go01:40
ax1ssoc: I pillage google01:40
pavel__Je tu njakej ech?01:40
FireHazard17pavel__: hi01:40
FireHazard17pavel__: no01:40
pavel__koda01:40
soc:-)01:40
pavel__?)01:40
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ax1ssoc: looks like the debian developers are still making binaries for everything01:41
socmh01:42
ax1ssoc: kde4base ?01:42
ax1s518 mbytes01:42
ax1si'm downloading it now01:42
ax1sahahaha01:42
ax1sf it01:42
socthats the source01:42
soci think01:43
socwithout looking at it01:43
ax1snot if it's apt-get without -source in the name01:43
ax1sit's apt get01:43
ax1sinstalling kde4libs-data01:43
socyou are apt-getting it?01:43
ax1syes01:43
socfrom where?01:43
ax1skde4base01:43
ax1suniverse01:43
FireHazard17thanks for no help but i fixed it anywaay01:43
socwhat univers?01:43
ax1sFireHazard17: we knew you could handle it ;] 01:43
ax1ssoc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kde4base01:44
FireHazard17:p01:44
FireHazard17nice01:44
soc^universe, ax1s?01:44
ax1ssoc: the universe repositories01:44
socwhich ones?01:44
soceven on gutsy i only have 3.90.101:44
ax1ssoc: sudo apt-get install kde4base01:44
socyes these are the ones from alpha101:44
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socalpha1 was quite broken :-)01:45
ax1sahhh01:45
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ax1sguess we will have to build debs and host them01:45
ax1s;] 01:45
nikola__hi01:45
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nikola__people01:45
icecruncherhey01:45
nikola__can somebody help me01:45
ax1sgrrr01:45
ax1sjust ask your question01:45
nikola__ok01:46
nikola__well01:46
ax1s*barks01:46
ax1s*bites01:46
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nikola__i `m install kubuntu01:46
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ax1sAhahahaha01:46
nikola__and i wont to install compiz fusion01:46
nikola__and when i install compiz fusion01:47
nikola__it` s not work01:47
nikola__well01:47
nikola__i have graphic card ati radeon 9600 pro01:47
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FireHazard17i cant get it working on my grandmothers computer either01:47
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^futurociao ragazzi01:47
icecruncher!compiz | nikola__01:47
ubotunikola__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:47
^futuroper ubuntu italia dove posso andare?01:48
FireHazard17yeah that might help01:48
icecruncher!it +| ^futuro01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about it + - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
^futuroplase for Ubuntu - Itay01:48
^futuro?01:48
icecruncher!it | ^futuro01:48
ubotu^futuro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:48
icecruncher:)01:48
ax1sdanya_: type /j danya_01:48
^futurothanks01:48
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icecrunchernp01:48
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FireHazard17now that is a ubotu command i actually find usefull01:49
FireHazard17usually ubotu is just annoying01:49
ax1sdanya_: Select the third one .. the one after the first Recovery01:49
icecruncherlol01:50
ax1sdanya: it will say ubuntu ### .. option 2 ubuntu recovery01:50
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ax1sdanya_: 3rd option might be mem test, if it is, select the next one01:50
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ax1srestarting x brb01:51
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Contrast83Greets, everyone...01:53
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FireHazard17hallo01:54
Contrast83Could someone do me a favor and open getdeb.net in Konqueror and in Firefox and tell me if they see anything strange?01:54
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FireHazard17k01:54
icecruncherContrast83: their site is messed up, cant get anything myself01:54
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FireHazard17nope seems fine to me and thank you01:54
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FireHazard17just downloaded a package too01:55
icecruncherFireHazard17: some of the links don't work01:55
Contrast83Hmm... Thanks anyway01:55
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ax1scontrast: sup01:56
Contrast83Strange. It shows up as like, months behind in Konqueror (already tried refreshing)01:56
Contrast83Hey01:56
danyai did what u asked me to do .. and beryl isn't working01:56
icecrunchercan anyone get pidgin at getdeb? me no works01:56
FireHazard17oh maybbe diidnt look at any dates01:56
FireHazard17k i will01:56
FireHazard172.0.2 ok01:57
FireHazard17?01:57
icecruncheryep01:58
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FireHazard17ok there are two packages pidgin and pidgin data ill send pidgin first01:58
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nikola__hey boyz01:59
icecruncherFireHazard17: it's ok, firefox didn't cooperate with teh site. konq wrks01:59
FireHazard17k01:59
icecruncherlife02:00
icecruncherlol02:00
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Contrast83icecruncher: Weird, I had the exact opposite problem. Heh02:00
icecruncherContrast83: lol, me get tons of php problems02:00
icecruncherContrast83: u?02:00
nikola__do you seen eny open source for ati radeon 9600 pro on the web!?02:01
Contrast83Yeah, same here, mainly when trying to download stuff (esp. debs)02:01
icecruncherContrast83: same here lol02:01
FireHazard17you want it from me?02:01
FireHazard17i didnt delete it yet02:01
nikola__what/02:01
nikola__?02:02
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FireHazard17nikola__: not you02:02
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nikola__o02:02
nikola__k02:02
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sahin_hIs Gusty+1 will be the next LTS verion of Kubuntu?02:02
Contrast83Does anyone know of a good Linux gaming IRC channel?02:02
Contrast83sahin_h: Nope02:02
ax1scontrast: http://www.freshnet.org/wordpress/2007/05/05/pidgin-200-for-ubuntu-feisty/02:02
sahin_hI just read it on the following url: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/kde-4-kubuntu-systemsettings-vs-kcontrol/02:03
sahin_hThis is why I'm wondering.02:03
msetimHi02:03
icecruncherhey02:03
FireHazard17msetim: hi02:03
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ax1ssahin: doubt it02:03
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ax1slts is up to 201102:03
nikola__has anybody seen opet source for ati graphic card on web???PLEASE GIVE ME ANSWER!!!!02:03
Contrast83sahin_h: Last I read, it's not LTS. Things could've changed since though02:03
ax1si doubt they will be announcing another LTS version till closer to that date02:04
Contrast83nikola__: NO!!!!02:04
Contrast83;-)02:04
sahin_hOk. Let we see...02:04
nikola__ohhhhhhhh02:04
nikola__:(02:04
msetimI want to install flash 9, however my kubuntu is 64 bits :-D Some suggestion?? I already try nspluginwrapper ;)02:04
nikola__tnx02:04
icecruncher!patience | nikola__02:04
ubotunikola__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:04
Contrast83nikola__: Are you just trying to get the source?02:04
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FireHazard17use 32bit02:04
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nikola__yeah02:05
Contrast83Hang on...02:05
arekanderuHiya guys, could someone tell me how to do a "batfile" ? :P02:05
FireHazard17a what?02:05
icecruncherarekanderu: you mean *.bat?02:05
msetimFireHazard17: I need 64 bits, because my ATI Radeon only have 3D acceleration on it :) The 32 bits have many issues with it...02:05
arekanderuYeah someting like that, but i know it aint .bat in linux02:06
FireHazard17yeah you mean like a windowsscript?02:06
FireHazard17oh a script you mean?02:06
arekanderuyeah02:06
icecruncher!bash | arekanderu02:06
ubotuarekanderu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:06
ax1sdanya_:02:06
ax1sEdit:a simple "rm .beryl-managerrc" did the trick... 5 times Oo02:06
ax1sThere is something wrong with that file... it's not the config file, all my settings are working perfectly, what did I do wrong in order for that file to mess Beryl boot? huh... oh well... I guess I'll make a script to make that commang everytime I start a new session... (it works1).02:06
skullAttackanyone here had any success with wine and source games?02:06
Contrast83nikola__: Did you look on packages.ubuntu.com?02:06
nikola__yes02:06
nikola__nothing02:07
icecruncherarekanderu: learn to use bash, code your own02:07
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ax1sdanya_:  first paragraph on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=293751902:07
arekanderukthxbye :*02:07
ax1sarekanderu: do you want to make a random script or startup script02:07
ax1smeh02:07
icecruncherlol02:08
FireHazard17scripting is fun!02:08
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FireHazard17i made you mad?02:08
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Contrast83nikola__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/xserver-xorg-video-ati02:09
icecruncherax1s: you said you where gonna compile?02:09
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icecruncherax1s: the kd402:09
FireHazard17yes02:10
FireHazard17yes it is02:10
icecruncherFireHazard17; lol, 's indeed fun02:10
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Contrast83nikola__: You know the open-source ATI driver doesn't support 3D-acceleration on many cards, right?02:11
FireHazard17many many cards02:11
FireHazard17like all but 202:11
FireHazard17jk02:11
ax1sicecruncher: yah i was joking, but i guess i could02:12
nikola__jap02:12
FireHazard17the two that are currently in novascotia02:12
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ax1sbbiab, hopefully with debs02:12
nikola__on 9600 pro he support experimentaly 3D02:12
icecruncherFireHazard17: well I've got like 4  :)02:13
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icecruncherFireHazard17: all old and unused though02:13
nikola__I have problem with texture_from_pixmap!02:13
Contrast83sahin_h: I'm just now reading that link you posted. It doesn't say Gutsy will be LTS, it says the release after it will.02:13
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icecruncherok, anybody got any good guides on how to change boot splash and grub screen?02:14
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FireHazard17icecruncher: you are in novascotia?02:15
icecruncherFireHazard17: thailand, lol02:16
FireHazard17ok fine greenland i dont even think people can live there it is only frikken ice02:16
hirsivajahi, does anyone know how to make http:// -addresses in konsole clickable, i mean that they open in browser when i click them?02:17
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sahin_hContrast83: Yep, I aksed the same. Maybe Gusty+1 will be the next LTS... Perhaps.02:18
JohnFluxhirsivaja: check the settings?02:18
Contrast83sahin_h: Ohh... My apologies, I misread your original question. Heh02:19
icecruncherbye all, gonna boot to xfce :)02:19
sahin_hContrast83: No problem...02:19
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hirsivajaJohnFlux: could you be more specific?02:19
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hirsivajai can't seem to find a setting that would enable such thing02:20
FireHazard17neither i02:21
FireHazard17im now compiling wine02:23
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laomaoi'm a beginner,when i input compiz --replace in the terminal,it  tells me cann't active "dbus"02:32
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mrEigerhi! i was wondering how to enable openGL for propriate ati drivers02:33
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mrEigertryed everything/ read mans/ nothing....02:33
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nnoeonnHiya guys! Ehm, what do I search for in adept manager when i want to download drivers for ati radeon x300?02:34
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arekanderu!ati | nnoeonn02:36
ubotunnoeonn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:36
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mrEigersudo aptget install xorg-driver-fglrx02:36
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mrEigernnoeonn: sudo aptget install xorg-driver-fglrx02:36
nnoeonnmreiger, you sure?02:37
BluesKajnnoeonn, I would check in system settings first , the fglrx driver is there , you just have to choose and configure it... or you can go to the the ATI site search for drivers and DL and install their latest prprietary driver02:37
arekanderunnoeonn: hope that helps ya02:37
BluesKajerr proprietary02:37
mrEigernnoeonn: i installed them, but as i said no OpenGL. by te way be careful with video driver because they can cause x server not to start02:38
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ghalebHi all, I want to define the wireless card in my laptop HP Pavilion. Intel Wireless. any help02:39
BluesKajmrEiger , this site helped me with 3D and DRI on my elcheapo onboard xpress200G : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty  .Now at least i can run Google Earth and other apps requiring DRI , where as previously I couldn't on feisty02:42
mrEigerBluesKaj: thanks!!02:43
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Darkriftwow02:44
Darkriftvmware kicks ***02:44
BluesKajghaleb, run 'lspci' in the terminal , your card should be listed02:44
Darkriftits syncing with my pda, and using only 350mb ram to do it02:44
Darkriftmirc took 2.4g to run02:44
Darkriftlol02:44
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BluesKajDarkrift, what are you using it for?02:44
Darkriftram/virt ram02:44
Darkriftactivesync02:45
Darkriftto sync with my pocket pc02:45
BluesKajlinux won't ?02:45
Darkriftnope02:45
Darkriftlinux sync programs suck02:45
Darkrifti saw someone say oyu have a 30% chance of linux syncing with your device02:45
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Darkriftif you have wm5, you have 0% chance02:46
jturekI have no sound in Kde02:46
BluesKajI can't get VMWare to install on my pc ...it fails02:46
jturekbut everything works fine in Gnome02:46
Darkrifti instaled vmplayer02:46
jturekwhat am I doing wrong?02:46
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Darkriftused the website in the !vmware help to create me a vmx02:46
Darkriftthen i installed xp on it02:46
nnoeonnHello everyone, I need some help02:46
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BluesKajwhat does vmplayer do otherwise ?02:47
Darkriftsame as vmware workstation but it wont create a virt machine02:47
Darkriftonly run it02:47
BluesKajnnoeonn, did you try to install fglrx drivers?02:47
nnoeonnI f*cked up my computer the other day by installing right mark cpu utlity on windows, now it turns of every time i use 100% of the cpu... and i installed it on windows02:47
Darkriftso you use the website to create it02:47
Darkrift!vmware02:48
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers02:48
mrEigernnoeonn: BluesKaj gave me a web page with man for x300 http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty. it can be helpful for u02:48
Darkriftthe easyvmx site creates it fro you02:48
nnoeonnBlueskaj: No, my comp is totaly screwed so it shut of al by itself xD02:48
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nnoeonnand btw, sorry for my bad english :S02:48
Darkriftok, later all02:49
Darkriftgoing to bed02:49
nnoeonnc ya dark02:49
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jturekcan anybody here help me with my kde sound?02:50
BluesKajnnoeonn, try this tutorial...it will work for your x300 card : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty02:50
jturekI do not get sound when using kde. (like watching youtube videos..etc.)02:50
jturekbut it works fine in Gnome02:50
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jturekthe sound is @100%  and nothing is muted02:50
nnoeonnBlues, got kubuntu, not ubuntu :S02:50
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BluesKajdoesn't matter nnoeonn , i use kubuntu too ...my card is a x200G02:51
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FireHazard17i got an nvidia 7600 gs thats alright right?02:52
niko__hi to all!02:52
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FireHazard17hi again02:52
niko__italian channel?02:52
FireHazard17this isnt02:52
jturekhi, anybody here know how to fix the lack of sound working in KDE02:52
jturekbut works fine in Gnome?02:52
BluesKajyeah FireHazard17, you should be ok02:52
niko__i know!02:52
niko__i'm not very new...02:52
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FireHazard17then what did you mean?02:53
mrEigerjturek: what driver are u using?02:53
niko__#ubuntu-it...02:53
BluesKaj!it | niko__02:54
ubotuniko__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:54
FireHazard17niko__:  what about it?02:54
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niko__i'm there...02:55
niko__thenks to all :-)02:55
niko__ops02:56
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ghalebI want to use my wireless adapter . but its not working .. what should i do03:02
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roshanhi03:04
roshancan anyone help me?03:04
Nylehi03:05
NyleI'm at work now03:05
NyleBluesKaj: hey man03:05
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FireHazard17gah yeah sure whats your problem03:05
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roshani just installed kubuntu and my mouse has never worked..03:05
BluesKajhi Nyle03:05
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roshannot even during installation i tabbed it through03:05
FireHazard17is it plugged in is it normal or wirelesS?03:05
roshannormal03:06
roshanserail mouse03:06
roshanserial03:06
roshanlogitech03:06
roshan2 botton03:06
FireHazard17that could be why seriel is out dated03:06
FireHazard17try to at least get a ps2 if oyu can03:06
roshanah..03:06
FireHazard17i myself have a normal usb03:06
roshancan i configure it ot work on serial?03:07
FireHazard17look online you may find a howto to get it working03:07
FireHazard17i have no clue though03:07
roshani tried but not easy to do with mouse :P03:07
roshanw/o mouse03:07
FireHazard17:p03:07
FireHazard17yeah i know03:07
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roshanoh well thanx dude03:08
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Nyleheh03:10
nnoeonn.... now im getting pissed off (not by you guys, but by my comp........)03:10
NyleI am getting paid to do chat on irc03:10
Nyle:D03:10
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NyleI love my job03:10
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nnoeonnIt keeps shutting off whenever the cpu is used 100%... :'(03:11
nnoeonnWell then nyle, why dont you help me? :P03:11
roshanamd64?03:12
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nnoeonnYou mean me roshan? O.o03:12
roshanNyle how do get the xorgconfig to run?03:12
roshanyeah..03:13
NyleI dunno03:13
NyleI just modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:13
Nyleits easy03:13
roshanlol03:13
roshannot really..03:13
Nyleits trivial rather03:13
Nylejust read and ask about what you don't know03:13
roshani tried setting the dev to ttyS0 did not work03:13
Nylewhat does that mean? setting the dev03:14
roshanin the xorg.conf03:14
Nylewhat are you trying to do03:14
Nylewho needs help I'm confused03:14
roshanusually its dev/mice right03:14
Nyle/dev/input/mice03:14
roshanyeah03:14
roshani set it to ttys003:14
Nylewhy?03:14
roshanlol no use03:14
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roshanserail port?03:15
Nyleroshan means light03:15
Nyleyou indian?03:15
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roshanyeah03:15
Nyleword man03:15
Nyleme too03:15
Nyle:)03:15
roshanhuh??03:15
roshanfrom?03:15
Nylepakistan03:15
roshanah..03:15
nikola__hi03:15
Nylehi03:15
roshanyo03:15
roshanlol03:15
nikola__can anyone tell me how to install new driver for graphic card03:16
nikola__?03:16
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Nylewhich card?03:16
nikola__ati radeon 9600 pro03:16
nnoeonnI need help with my computer, this is the info i got: a couple of days ago i had windows, i installed right mark cpu utility, after that my computer freezez and shuts off all the time, i've figured out that it seems to do that whenever i use the cpu 100%... I've tried to reinstall windows, and now linux, but i still got the problem03:16
FireHazard17ati or nvidia or intel?03:16
nikola__ati03:16
nnoeonn!ati | kiola__03:16
ubotukiola__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:16
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nikola__i was downloaded driver03:16
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nnoeonnSo can u help me nyle? :S03:17
nikola__but i using kubuntu (linux) 2 days and i don`t know how to install03:17
nikola__txn ubutu03:17
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Nylennoeonn: with?03:18
vzduchnnoeonn: RAM issue perhaps, try Memtest, it's on the live CD as a boot option03:18
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roshanno need live cd for memtest03:18
nnoeonnNyle look up a couple of lines :P03:18
Nyleit sounds like a cpu issue03:18
Nyleit shuts down when its too hot03:18
vzduchor that03:18
Nyleif you shutdown under 100% load you should check your heatsink03:18
nnoeonnthe thing is that it aint hot03:18
Nylethere are a few standard tests that we do here03:18
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Nyleat work03:19
Nylewe use hirens or ultimate boot cd or some such03:19
Nyleand mini PE03:19
Nyleeither get those or whatver you want03:19
nnoeonnwhere do i get it03:19
Nyleboot the cpu, test the memory, let at least 2 passes go through on your RAM03:19
Nylerun memtest86+03:19
Nyleetc.03:19
Nyleand if your ram is good,boot with minipe or something, and stress test the cpu03:19
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Nyleif you go shutdown again on cpu 100% load03:20
Nylethen its your cpu more than likely03:20
nnoeonnwould u please xplain that in plain english...03:20
Nyleeither the heatsink doesn't sit properly03:20
Nyleor its loose or something03:20
Nylemost bios shut the pc down when it reaches a threshold of 70C tops03:20
nnoeonnhmmm..... w8 a sec03:20
Nylesome do it at 6503:20
nnoeonnthat could beit03:20
nnoeonnand thats the problem, it never gets hot, at all...03:21
Nyleyeh03:21
nnoeonnit shuts down way before that :S03:21
Nylethe heatsink should be getting a bit warm03:21
Nylereseat it03:21
Nylemake sure your thermal compound isn't too much03:21
Nyleif you put too much paste on the cpu, there is hardly any heat xfer03:21
nnoeonnIll test that ^03:21
Nyleonly put a little bit03:21
nnoeonn^^*03:21
Nylejoin ##hardware for your other hw related questions03:21
nnoeonnk thnx m8 :D:D03:22
Nyleanytime03:22
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Nylebrb03:22
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roshancan anyone get my serial mouse to work?03:26
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roshancan anyone get my serial mouse to work?03:27
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yotuxIs fiesty 64bit a good choice or should 64 bit user still fall back to i386?03:28
Nyleroshan: pastebin your xorg.conf03:28
roshani am runnin 64 bit thumbs up03:28
roshany go back?03:28
umberleighhi. i'm having problems with firefox 2.0.0.4 after recently upgrading from dapper to fiesty. i'm using the version in the main repository with the flash, kaffeine and possibly java plugins. it's taking 2 or 3 attempts to load each page. it just gives me a 404 error the first time i try. all other internet apps seem to be working fine03:29
Nyle  roshan> i set it to ttys003:29
roshani tried03:29
Nyleroshan: /dev/ttyS003:29
yotuxwas a former slackware users and was told 64bit is not mature quit yet that is why I was asking03:29
Nylecapital S afaik03:29
umberleighoh, and it's the 64bit version03:29
roshanyeahh!!03:29
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Nyleroshan: ls /dev/ttyS003:30
roshanit says in site xorg it works!] 03:30
roshanyeah03:30
roshanS003:30
Nyleroshan: also you might need to modify the protocol as well03:30
roshanok let me set it to microsoft since it is 2button03:31
umberleighyotux: aside from a couple of proprietry apps/plugin's only compliled for 32bit processors i haven't had any problems and have found workarounds otherwise03:31
Nyleroshan:   roshan> i set it to ttys003:31
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Nylegoddamit03:31
roshanyeah03:31
roshanlol03:31
NyleOption "Protocol" "microsoft"03:31
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Nylewrong copy in my buffer03:31
roshanyeah ok ill do tht03:31
Nyle:)03:31
roshanheh03:31
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yotuxumberleigh: thanks03:31
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Nyleor just buy a new mouse03:31
roshanyo get paud to do this?03:31
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Nyleme?03:32
roshanpaid*?03:32
Nylepaid to do what?03:32
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roshanchat?03:32
MaxdamantusHmm.. Is it possible to use the GTK style widgets on only one program?03:32
Nyleyeh03:32
Nylepretty much03:32
Nylemy job is laid back03:32
MaxdamantusAnd the KDE version for everything else?03:32
umberleighyotux: no probs03:32
NyleMaxdamantus: I'm not sure, try ~/.gtk something or other conf files03:32
Nylemaybe you can do per app, I'm not sure and never heard of it before03:32
umberleighyotux: haven't noticed any obvious performance increase though, but then i haven't measured to find out for sure03:33
NyleMaxdamantus: either use switch2 or gtk2-engines-gtk-qt or for better control use xfce4-mcs-manager03:33
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MaxdamantusI just want the KDE style for everything except XChat (XChat only displays coloured tabs in normal GTK)03:33
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NyleMaxdamantus: I use xfce4-mcs-manager & xfce-setting-show03:33
yotuxI am under taking a full remove of M$ vista from my notebook today03:33
Nyleits a much beter control over gtk apps in kde03:33
yotuxPlanning a re install of Fiesty kubuntu only03:34
roshani forgot the command for root command03:34
roshansudo?03:34
Nyleyes03:34
roshanah thk yo03:34
Nyleyup03:34
MaxdamantusNyle, I'll check that out.03:34
umberleighyotux: good luck. managed for about a year with linux only till i needed windows for gaming and making music03:34
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NyleMaxdamantus: Im not sure if you can do that.  However check with #kde also03:35
MaxdamantusClaims that it's already installed.03:35
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roshanhow can i login directly as root?03:35
ryarenHI03:35
Nyleroshan: why?03:35
roshanjust askin03:35
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Nyleroshan: if you have to ask about sudo, and how to login as root, you probably shouldn't03:35
roshantired of typin pass03:35
Nylestick with sudo03:35
MaxdamantusHowever, there is no "xfce4-mcs-manager" in any of the directories set in PATH03:35
ryarenSomebody is using the nvtv??03:35
yotuxumberleigh:  Have access to a vmware server if need be.03:35
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roshanah ok03:36
MaxdamantusOh. There is.03:36
MaxdamantusWithout the 4. :d03:36
Nyle:)03:36
Nyleafter you intall this package, the binary is xfce-setting-show03:36
vzduchroshan: you just implied that you were going to do things as root permanently.. bad idea! :)03:36
NyleMaxdamantus: I also prefer to use gtk2-engines-xfce03:36
NyleMaxdamantus: in those engines, I use xfce-kolors03:36
MaxdamantusHow do I configure it?03:37
Nylethats a very nice gtk theme and works under kde flawlessly03:37
FireHazard17i did something in kde where i no longerehave to type passwords for sudo03:37
MaxdamantusWhen I ran it, it just applied one of the XFCE GTK styles.03:37
FireHazard17makes it more bearable03:37
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MaxdamantusOh crap.03:37
NyleMaxdamantus: apt-get install xfce4-mcs-manager gtk2-engines-xfce && xfce-setting-show03:37
MaxdamantusIt applied the xfce mouse settings too.03:38
MaxdamantusAnd I messed round with those, and stuffed it up.03:38
Nylejust go through the xfcesetting window and change the gtk apps looks03:38
MaxdamantusThen couldn't get it back to normal.03:38
MaxdamantusCould you screenshot me the mouse settings?03:38
Nylewhat mouse settings?03:38
MaxdamantusIn XFCE03:38
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MaxdamantusMine are stuffed up.03:38
Nylewhy are you asking about the mouse settings?03:38
Nylexfcesettingshow has nothing to do with it03:39
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MaxdamantusBecause the xfce-mcs-manager applied the xfce mouse settings. :d03:39
MaxdamantusWhich I had messed up while trying out xfce03:39
Nyleit can't afaik03:39
MaxdamantusOk.03:39
Nyleyou have to install xfce4-mcs-plugins in order to be able to mess with mouse settings03:40
ryarenSomebody is using the nvtv??03:40
Nylewhich you didn't install03:40
Nyleso there is no way your mouse settings could be messed with afaik03:40
MaxdamantusWhy didn't I install it?03:40
Nylecuz I didn't tell you to03:40
ryarenSomebody knows how can I configure the nvtv?03:40
Nyleand becuase you don't need it03:40
MaxdamantusI apt-get'd the xfce4 package ages ago. :d03:40
MaxdamantusI have lots of WMs.. Xd03:40
ryaren!nvtv03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
NyleMaxdamantus: or just use gtk-theme-switch I think03:40
NyleMaxdamantus: or you can use gtk2-engines-gtk-qt03:41
Nyledon't have to use xfce settings03:41
MaxdamantusKDE, GNOME, Fluxbox, Blackbox, Enlightenment, Xfce, fvwm, xpde (useless)03:41
Nylebut for me xfce engines under kde work better03:41
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MaxdamantusWell. I found the xfce settings I was looking for.03:43
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Nyleyeh03:44
Nylein xfce-setting-show you must click 'user interface'03:44
Nylethat will allow you to change the gtk styles03:44
MaxdamantusYea.03:44
MaxdamantusIt's not possible to apply one GTK theme to one application, and another to everything else?03:45
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Nylenot afaik03:45
MaxdamantusAw.. Firefox looks so cool with my KDE style buttons (Qt)03:46
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NyleI use kwin baghira on everything03:46
Nylegtk+qt03:46
MaxdamantusBut XChat doesn't have coloured tree with Qt.03:46
Nylescrew xchat man03:46
Nyleirssi > *03:46
Nyle:)03:46
MaxdamantusNever!03:46
Nyleheh03:47
Maxdamantus"XChat: Connected to 5 networks and 17 channels"03:47
davidlonedf03:47
MaxdamantusTry managing that with "/window x"03:47
Nylewhat?03:47
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NyleI'm on 7 networks03:47
MaxdamantusIn IRSSI?03:47
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NyleI've got at leat 4 windows on each network03:47
Nyleyes in irssi03:47
MaxdamantusAre you idling on most channels?03:47
Nyleefnet, undernet, dalnet, freenode, rizon, qake, gamesurge03:48
Nylequake*03:48
MaxdamantusSounds like the sort of networks you idle on.03:48
Nylemostly yeh03:48
Nylebut I chat in them too03:48
MaxdamantusIdling with IRSSI is easy.03:48
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MaxdamantusWith the once in a while chat.03:48
Nylexhat pisses me off03:48
MaxdamantusWhy?03:48
NyleMaxdamantus: irssi is very powerful03:48
MaxdamantusI know.03:48
Nylexchat doesn't have half the features or irssi03:49
Nyleof*03:49
fsssssssssshdoes anyone know howto change the color (not the size) of the font of the windowbar at the bottom?03:49
NyleMaxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde.jpg03:49
MaxdamantusHowever, I don't want to switch between 17 channels (minimum) using that interface.03:49
NyleMaxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde2.jpg03:49
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NyleMaxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/irssi.jpg03:49
MaxdamantusNyle, what does IRSSI have that XChat doesn't?03:49
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MaxdamantusEw. Yuck colours in the first.03:50
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MaxdamantusAnd I want that screen res. :(03:50
MaxdamantusUseless monitor..03:50
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MaxdamantusNyle, what about them anyway?03:51
MaxdamantusThe KDE ones.03:52
BluesKajirssi will work on TTY prompt or terminal ...xchat ? you have to be kidding03:52
Nylewhat?03:52
MaxdamantusThe KDE pictures.03:52
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MaxdamantusWhat about them?03:52
MaxdamantusAnd I know what XChat looks like. :d03:52
MaxdamantusIRSSI*03:52
BluesKajkonversation is best in kde03:53
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MaxdamantusBluesKaj, no way.03:53
Nylekde pictures?03:53
Maxdamantus[01:49:37]   <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde.jpg03:53
Maxdamantus[01:49:40]   <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde2.jpg03:53
Daisuke_IdoMaxdamantus: then what is?03:53
Daisuke_Idoand don't say xchat, it's not a kde app.03:53
NyleMaxdamantus: what are you asking me?03:53
NyleI'm not even sure what you're askin me03:54
MaxdamantusDaisuke_Ido, it still works in KDE though.03:54
MaxdamantusI'm not giving up Firefox because it's GTK..03:54
Daisuke_IdoNyle: you put up those pictures, he wants to know why, pretty simple03:54
Nyleoh03:54
MaxdamantusI like the KDE desktop environment.03:54
Nylejust to show him what irssi looks like03:54
Nyle:)03:54
MaxdamantusIf I didn't, I'd use GNOME.03:54
Daisuke_IdoMaxdamantus: but there's a difference.  xchat is fugly03:54
MaxdamantusDaisuke_Ido, how so?03:54
Daisuke_Idolook at it.03:54
MaxdamantusDone.03:54
Daisuke_Idoit's ugly, bulky, and hardly intuitive03:55
Nylehttp://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/screenshots/kde.mac.jpg03:55
Nylethis is my current theme03:55
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Nylekwin-baghira03:55
roshanyo nyle03:55
Nylehi03:55
roshanatlast my mouse works!!03:55
Nyle:)03:55
roshanlife is so much better03:55
Nylei'm glad I could help03:55
roshanyeah thx dude03:55
cs5can anyone help me. I am using an ATI all-in-wonder 9600 video card and have managed to enable the drivers and opengl on my primary, but I cant get proper function out of my second monitor. Using a single multihead video coard with extension cables.03:55
Daisuke_Idoi'm definitely not saying that you shouldn't use xchat, you can use whatever you want, but for god's sake, don't paint xchat as the greatest irc client for kde, because it isn't.03:56
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Nylecs5: use catalyst driver setup tool and make it into a Big Desktop03:56
Daisuke_Idocs5: that's easy to fix03:56
Daisuke_Idoget rid of your ati card and get a real one03:56
cs5Lmao03:56
roshanlol03:56
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roshani have a ati 9200 se:P03:56
Daisuke_Idoati+linux=heartbreak.03:56
cs5ty Nyle, and it has functions i like03:57
cs5yes true03:57
cs5nvidia better with linux?03:57
CarinArrnvidia+linux hasn't been much better since i upgraded to feisty03:57
Daisuke_IdoCar03:57
CarinArr;)03:57
cs5any distros that are more compatible?03:57
CarinArrthough i wouldn't give up my nvidia cards for ati's any time soon03:57
Daisuke_IdoCarinArr: then something is wrong.03:57
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MaxdamantusGar. IRSSI is failing on me.03:57
MaxdamantusKeeps claiming it can't bind to my IP.03:58
Daisuke_Idobut this is also why i prefer to stay about a generation behind on things like that03:58
Daisuke_Idogf 7600, rock solid03:58
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CarinArrDaisuke_Ido: never had any problems in th epast, since upgrading to feisty and trying to use nvidia-glx-new, first restricted-modules seemed not to actually have nvidia, so i had to completely purge them, reboot, reinstall and things now work-ish03:58
CarinArrwith random xserver lockups i never had before03:58
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roshanis it ok if i play mp3 from my fat32?03:59
CarinArrusing 512MB gf go 760003:59
roshanhow mych does it cost? 7600?03:59
CarinArrmine's a laptop card so it comes built in03:59
roshanah04:00
CarinArrno idea about graphics card prices in general now04:00
roshanis it ok if i play mp3 from my fat32?04:00
CarinArrroshan: i've kept music and stuff on fat32 before without any problems04:01
Maxdamantusroshan, no.04:01
Maxdamantusyes*04:01
CarinArrheh04:01
Maxdamantusfat32 ftl04:01
roshany no?04:01
Maxdamantusext3 > fat3204:01
Maxdamantusroshan, you can.04:01
CarinArryes, but some people don't have a choice if they want to access stuff from windows04:01
MaxdamantusWhen you mount a file system, it becomes part of the root filesystem.04:01
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roshani know i can but it puts these access rights i have probs in windows04:02
MaxdamantusSo programs don't care if it's on fat32, ext3, whatever.04:02
MaxdamantusThere's just a wrapper around it.04:02
MaxdamantusCarinArr, google for ext2fs04:02
MaxdamantusOr something.04:02
Maxdamantusext driver for win3204:03
CarinArrer?04:03
CarinArroh04:03
Maxdamantushttp://www.fs-driver.org/04:03
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MaxdamantusIt runs fluently.04:03
MaxdamantusAnd doesn't have the restrictions of fat3204:03
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CarinArri don't have any fat32 drives myself04:03
MaxdamantusNeither.04:04
MaxdamantusI don't have Windows.04:04
CarinArrdidn't know about ext working in windows though04:04
MaxdamantusOpen source :)04:04
CarinArrno vista support yet by the looks of it04:04
CarinArrnot that that's a great surprise04:04
CarinArrheh04:05
SlimeyPeteext works well in windows04:05
grulis there an easy way to write to ntfs-partitions under ubuntu?04:05
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SlimeyPete!ntfs-3g04:05
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:05
gruloh :)04:05
grulthanks04:05
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roshanhow do i mount my hd004:07
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Maxdamantusroshan, what kernel?04:07
MaxdamantusNot kernel.04:08
MaxdamantusVersion should I say?04:08
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MaxdamantusMeh. Just go "fdisk -l"04:08
roshankubuntu04:08
MaxdamantusAnd find the one you want to mount.04:08
MaxdamantusThen tell me.04:08
roshanhda104:08
roshanfdisk shows nothin04:09
roshanlol04:09
MaxdamantusNeed to be root.04:09
MaxdamantusBut anyway, to mount it, do something like this:04:09
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Maxdamantussudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda104:09
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roshanhda604:10
roshanokie thx04:10
geniiMaxdamantus: I think after the && you will need sudo again04:10
MaxdamantusIf it tells you you need to specify the fs type, change the mount to mount -t fat or something04:10
Maxdamantusgenii, no you don't.04:10
roshani need to work more on linux :P04:10
MaxdamantusWell, not with the default .bashrc in Ubuntu04:10
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MaxdamantusOr Kubuntu.04:10
geniiMaxdamantus: Ah, OK :)04:11
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geniiMay need user option in fstab if it will be for regular users etc04:11
roshanlol it says hda6 exits04:11
roshanbut cant mount it04:11
MaxdamantusWhat does it return?04:11
roshanmount: can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:12
cs5i get the same when i try to mount my windows partition.04:12
cs5from kubuntu04:12
Maxdamantusroshan, you missed the mount parameter then.04:12
MaxdamantusWhat sort of fs is it?04:12
roshanfat3204:12
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cs5and windows doesnt even see my ext3 partition04:12
cs5ntfs04:13
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Maxdamantussudo mount /dev/hda6 -t vfat /mnt/hda604:13
MaxdamantusTry that.04:13
anassesalut a tt le monde04:13
roshanu need speals apps to see ext3 fs in windows04:13
Maxdamantuscs5,04:13
cs5ty04:13
cs5yes max04:13
Maxdamantushttp://www.fs-driver.org/04:13
cs5ty04:13
anassesi qlq 1 peu m'aider sur le config de mon sagem fast 80004:13
MaxdamantusThat lets you mount ext3 in Windows.04:13
CarinArr!fr04:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:14
roshanah dont wat does -t do?04:14
anasseoki04:14
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cs5nice. I have wanted to store and have access from both, good start04:14
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geniiroshan -t lets mount know what type of filesystem if not native ext type04:15
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roshanah nice thx..04:16
roshanhow do u know so much oh god of linux?04:16
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MaxdamantusExperience.04:18
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roshanah..04:18
roshanhow old are u max?04:18
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heroMaxdamantus: can you teach me how to pick up chicks? "man girls" didn't work :*(04:19
roshanhow come kaffine cant play dvd?04:19
SlimeyPete!css04:19
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:19
MaxdamantusYou need some pickup lines.04:19
SlimeyPeteyou needs decss, roshan04:19
SlimeyPeteit's illegal i the states so it isn't installed by default04:19
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MaxdamantusSuch as "Do you sleep on your stomach? .... Can I?"04:20
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Maxdamantusroshan, 15.04:20
MaxdamantusAnd I'm not a God of Linux.04:20
SlimeyPeteroshan: goes without saying that I'm not recommending you install it if you're a yank - The Man has decreed that you're not allowed and who am I to argue ;)04:20
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MaxdamantusLinus Travolds is. :)04:20
roshanoh man im older than u bahhhhh04:20
herothere is only one god of linux!04:20
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SlimeyPeteTorvalds? ;p04:21
llutzMaxdamantus: you mean John Travolta04:21
Admiral_ChicagoMaxdamantus: hero this is a discussion for #kubuntu-offtopic04:21
Maxdamantusllutz, no.04:21
MaxdamantusHe's the scientologist from Pulp Fiction.04:21
roshanlol travolta?04:21
MaxdamantusWhich was a good movie.04:21
llutzMaxdamantus: then it is Linus Torvalds04:21
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heroAdmiral_Chicago: i said one thing.04:22
ruxit seems removing xeyes is a bad idea04:22
ruxremoves anything kde related too :(04:22
ruxsorta04:23
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cs5ty smileypete04:24
cs5i will try it04:24
cs5I am in Canada so its all good04:25
cs5;)04:25
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nnoeonn!ati04:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:26
heroAdmiral_Chicago: is there a kde program like gnucash? personal finance, that is.04:26
vzduchKMyMoney?04:26
heroit must not be that great of a program if you're ending that with a question mark04:26
icecruncherhero: Kmymoney04:27
vzduchI haven't used either of these, so I can't tell04:27
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icecruncherhero: kmymoney is quite simmilar, bit nicer interface04:27
Admiral_Chicagoyep, Kmymoney04:28
vzduchI basically know that these 2 programs exist, that's about it04:28
cs5is there a way to read my ntfs with kubuntu, if only in read only so as i can access files on my windows partition, ie, music, video, etc.04:28
heroicecruncher: thank you.04:28
Admiral_Chicagocs5: mount the partition04:28
vzduchcs5: read access is in there by default04:28
Admiral_Chicago!partition04:28
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:28
icecruncherhero: your welcome04:28
cs5cant mount it, or rather it will mount but still wont read it04:29
Admiral_Chicagocs5: you'll need to set the option as umask=077704:29
Admiral_Chicagocs5: is it mounted via fstab?04:29
cs5yes04:29
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Admiral_Chicagocs5: paste the contents at paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:30
cs5oh now i get a mount error.04:30
cs5lol04:30
cs5cant find04:30
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Admiral_Chicago/etc/fstab04:31
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cs5yes it isnt mounted anymore, 1 moment04:32
roshanlol i cant play mp3s04:33
vzduch!mp304:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:34
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roshanoh nice04:34
junior_nice04:34
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cs5http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28803/04:34
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geniics5 Your ntfs partition is not listed there. Do you know which it is?04:37
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cs5hda104:38
cs5not there04:38
cs5it is in media though04:39
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roshanwill i get shot in the back is i go back to windows?04:39
danya_Hi everyone.. I've download a superkaramba tar.gz theme .. and while installing it I got the following error when configuring : configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables04:39
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danya_and is there any easier ways to download themes !04:40
vzduchroshan: yes :D04:40
CarinArrdanya_: err.. how are you trying to install it?04:40
geniics5 Add line: /dev/hda1        /media/<dirname>   ntfs user,auto     0       0           to fstab  where dirname is a directory you make , then you can do mount -a04:41
danya_umm by the terminal ... from the install txt that came with the package :D04:41
danya_I'm this close to go back to windows :(04:41
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vzduchCarinArr, danya_: looks like './configure && make && make install'.. in that case --> sudo aptitude install build-essential'04:41
jhutchins_ltdanya_: bet you didn't use sudo04:41
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jhutchins_ltdanya_: We really don't care if you want to go back to Windows, but we'll be glad to help with kubuntu.04:42
vzduchjhutchins_lt: no need to use sudo untill 'make install'04:42
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=== CarinArr hasn't once had a superkaramba theme that needed compiling..
dr_willisCarinArr,  i dont recall any either.04:42
dr_willisbut ive only toyed with superkaramba04:42
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ryarenhi!04:42
CarinArri run a few themes04:42
=== vzduch was never able to figure out how to use SuperKaramba
danya_so I should only add sudo aptitude install build essential ??04:42
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cs5says i cant save it04:42
ryarenSomebody an help me to configure my tv-out???04:42
dr_willisThing about all these desknets/karamba/eyecandy things..  is you realize that most all of them are useless. :)04:43
cs5lol, damn my noobieness is showing isnt it?04:43
CarinArri like weather ones.. or did until we hit english summer04:43
dr_willisinfo build-essential04:43
dr_willis!info build-essential04:43
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB04:43
geniics5 Everyone was a newbie once04:43
vzduchcs5: can't save what?04:43
dr_willisdanya_,  the package name is 'build-essential'04:43
cs5fstab with the changes04:43
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CarinArrand i'm using monitors for different things when i'm working04:43
dr_willisWhen i was a newbie - i was learning on the C6404:43
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jhutchins_ltcs5: What are you using to edit it?04:43
cs5i just put it right into fstab and went to file>save04:44
dr_williscs5,  you did run the e4ditor with root permissions?04:44
vzduchcs5: edit w/ sudo, otherwise there's no way of saving it, as it's on a directory only root has write access to04:44
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geniics5 It may not let you save, it depends if you opened the file with sudo privelege04:44
dr_willis'when doing somthing system wide - one must aquire root permissions. some how'04:44
jhutchins_lt!sudo04:44
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:44
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jhutchins_lt!kdesu04:44
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:44
geniics5 To edit in sudo mode, use kdesu kate04:44
roshanvzduch: hey u have a licence for tht?04:45
geniics5 then open the file that way04:45
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vzduchroshan: I personally don't kill anyone04:45
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CarinArrhow weird04:45
roshanah so ur a godfather04:45
vzduchbut you asked a dumb question, so you got a dumb answer *hrhr*04:45
CarinArrglxinfo: Error: unable to open display (null)04:45
roshanhehe04:45
roshanok guys cya..04:46
roshanthx a lot04:46
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dr_willisCarinArr,  what command did you use?04:46
roshanmay the noobs be answered04:46
CarinArroh lol.04:46
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CarinArrdidn't realise that was my remote terminal04:46
vzducho004:46
dr_willis0_o :)04:47
CarinArrjust one of em days04:47
dr_willisI tend to set up different color terminals for my remotes04:47
CarinArri should do really04:47
geniidr_willis: Good idea. Like red screen for root gui04:47
dr_willisgenii,  BINGO!04:47
dr_willis:)04:47
dr_willismake some alias's 'rootterm' 'fileserverterm' and so forth that pop up xterms with different colors04:48
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cs5kate wont even see fstab to open it04:48
ryarenSomebody an help me to configure my tv-out???04:48
ryarenc04:48
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geniics5 Try: kdesu kate /etc/fstab04:48
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geniiwork calls, brb04:49
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dariohi all i need help04:49
cs5that worked04:49
dr_willisryaren,  and whats the video card?04:49
CarinArrdario: what's up?04:49
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darioi'm trying to install a program04:50
draguinSomebody is french here O_o ?04:50
ryarendr_willis: Nvidia Geforce 4 ti420004:50
vzduch!fr | draguin04:50
ubotudraguin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:50
darioi have correctly done .configure04:50
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draguinThnaks ^^04:50
dario./configure04:50
CarinArrdario: okay...04:50
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dariobut when i do sudo make04:50
darioi get an error04:50
cs5it saved too genii04:50
CarinArrdario: is it more than one line?04:50
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CarinArr!pastebin | dario04:51
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ubotudario: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:51
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cs5i still get error when i try to mount but its different now04:51
dr_willisryaren,  http://pastebin.ca/605892   My xorg config file. with TV out + DVI output for my setup.04:51
cs5no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab04:51
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darioyes04:52
dariohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28807/04:52
dariocarin04:52
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darioare you here?04:52
geniics5 OK: kdesu kate /etc/fstab    again, then go to the end of the new line and hit enter twice. then resave04:52
dr_willisryaren,  nvidia-xconfig  -A      ( for info on nvidia's Xorg tweaker tool)  I beliuve i just used nvidia-xconfig --twinview04:52
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CarinArrdario: you're missing a headerfile..04:52
dr_willisryaren,  BACKUP your existing xorg.conf file04:52
vzduchdario: what is that anyway?04:52
ryarenokay04:53
CarinArrdario: seconding vzduch's question.. what are you trying to compile?04:53
ryareni try04:53
darioit was kaffeine-sc-plugin04:53
vzduchwhich is good for what?04:53
darioit still is04:53
cs5folder doesnt exist....lol. Makes sense since i pointed at a nonexistent folder.lol04:53
cs5ty though. I think I am getting this a bit.04:54
darioit is a plugin for kaffeine to view dvb using card04:54
CarinArrdario: basically, the compiler is saying that the file included (asm/unaligned.h) doesn't exist..04:54
ryarendr_willis: maybe is it enough if I take this command? nvidia-xconfig --twinview04:54
geniics5 :) Yes make sure to do   sudo mkdir /media/<somename>   that is the same as the fstab entry of course04:54
cs5TY genii04:54
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darioand what should i do04:54
geniics5 np Tho I need to go do some work stuff again for a minute or 2. brb again04:55
dr_willisryaren,  you need to be root. (use sudo) and i belive thats about ALL i did on this box to get the tv going.04:55
CarinArrdario: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28667904:55
cs5awesome, got it, ty so much04:55
dr_willisryaren,  if you want JUST the tv going.. :) you can just hook up a tv. unhook the monitor.. and reboot.04:56
dr_willisryaren,  at least with my cards they default to the tv out if no monitor hooked up04:56
ryarendr_willis: no i want to go both of them04:56
CarinArrdario: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:57
CarinArrthen try to compile again04:57
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dariook i try04:57
ryarendr_willis: it doesn't work... :( I rebooted the X and nothing happened on my TV..04:58
cs5genii, i am going over to my windows for a moment, i will return also, ty again for your help.04:58
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darioit says that i already have the latest version04:58
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ryarendr_willis: where can I see some kind of log file about the X?04:59
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CarinArrdario: try sudo apt-get install libuclibc-dev05:00
CarinArrthen try make again05:00
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CarinArrnot that i can see why that would be required.. but it's the only package containing asm/unaligned.h;)05:00
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darioehhehe05:01
darioi'm try ./configure first05:01
dr_willisryaren,  /var/log/ somewhere05:01
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dariosame error05:02
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BluesKajgenii that would be good , then amarok could play good music in the elevator , not that muzak crap :)05:03
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CarinArrdario: didn't particularly expect that to work05:04
danya_ok now i have another problem im getting this error error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:04
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dr_willisinstall the needed X developer files.05:04
exarojust changed to ubuntu and i must say i love it :-)05:04
dr_willisand no i dont know their names. :) i tend to just search for 'dev' and start installing things that look close.05:05
CarinArrdario: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev05:05
CarinArrpossibly05:05
danya_how do I do that ? ..05:05
exarobeen exploring it for the last 2 hours playing around and so on.. fun fun :-D05:05
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ryarendr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28808/plain/ It tells only one device connected...05:06
dr_willisdanya_,  fire up the pakcage manager you like to use..  :)   xserver-xorg-dev   might be what you need.05:06
dariosame05:06
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CarinArrdario: have you redone ./configure?05:06
dr_willisryaren,  interesting.  Could try my sample xorg.conf file. but thats for my nvidia 6800 card.05:06
lebieshi folks, i'm having trouble getting fglrx drivers running, after turfing Ubuntu and installing Kubuntu. Anyone know of a comprehensive decent howto to get my drivers properly loaded, then beryl thereafter, pls?05:06
darionot this time05:06
CarinArrdario: then try that first05:06
dr_willislebies,  id have to susggest avoiding Beryl with ati stuff.. at this time.05:07
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geniiBluesKaj: Actually i was thinking of making a controller for it. right now it is a manually operated elevator. But a linux brain as the switching device would be interesting :) Also music in there would be nice LOL05:07
ryarendr_willis: What sort of TV do u have? I have an old one with 640x480 or 800x600 resolutions and 50hz...05:07
jhutchins_lt!beryl | lebies05:07
ubotulebies: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:07
darioit didn't work05:07
dr_willislebies,  about all ive done - is install kubuntu, installed that 'restricted-manager' tool, and ran it. :)05:07
CarinArrdario: same error message?05:07
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jhutchins_ltlebies: Beryl has merged back into compiz, but it will take a while for that to percolate down to our level.05:08
dr_willisryaren,  just a normal tv with svideo in.05:08
lebieshmm, had it running well in Ubuntu !05:08
darioyes05:08
dario:/05:08
jhutchins_ltlebies: Sorry, that factoid used to point to a howto.05:08
lebiesdamn!05:08
dr_willisryaren,  if i sent higher res to it. my video card converts it down i do belive.05:08
ryarendr_willis: Can u paste you config file again? I wasted it05:08
CarinArrdario: okay. sometimes you need to actually give ./configure the actual path to your x dev files.05:08
dr_willisryaren,  http://pastebin.ca/605892   My xorg config file. with TV out + DVI output for my setup.05:08
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CarinArrit's painful enough to fix your own compilation problems, never mind others05:09
CarinArrlol05:09
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lebiesdr_willis: tks, i'll give it a whirl05:09
dr_willisCarinArr,  heh.. could see what hes compiling and try to compile it yourself.05:09
CarinArri could05:09
dariolol05:09
dr_willis!info restricted-manager05:09
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jhutchins_ltlebies: Check http://beryl-project.org and http://www.opencompositing.org/05:09
CarinArrshh05:09
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB05:09
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CarinArrdario: do you have a link to what you're trying to compile and i'll give it a shot05:10
lebiesjhutchins_lt: tks, will do as well05:10
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dariohum you want the file?05:10
herook, the only problem with kmymoney is that it tells me i'm in debt.05:10
nnoeonnHiya guys05:10
CarinArrdario: rather a link to where you downloaded the file from if possible05:10
CarinArrlol hero05:10
wsjuniorhehe05:10
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BluesKajgenii, actually a manually operated elevator is by far safer than a processor driven type ...I've had experience with both at my workplace and you don't to be in a processor controlled elevator during a t-storm or a power failure  :(05:10
BluesKajdon't want to be05:11
dr_willisuoq s,ndo 05:11
dr_willis:)05:11
nnoeonnBluesKaj, I've tried to get my vide drovers to work, but nothing happens :S05:11
vzduchwtf?05:11
BluesKajwell fix it , dr_willis05:11
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llutzdr_willis: headstand!05:12
dariohttp://dvb-upload.com/index.php?action=download&pid=11202105:12
dr_willissu05:12
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vzduchdr_willis: how do you do that? o005:12
geniiBluesKaj: This is true :) But I have to operate the thing and it drives me nust, ppl ring to go 1 floor up or down, etc etc05:12
dr_willisvzduch,  no idea.   Heh- honestly.05:12
geniinust=nuts05:12
BluesKajnnoeonn, have you rebooted since installing the drivers ?05:12
dr_willisSomeone did it the other day. I just cut/pasted it to a file.05:12
vzducho005:12
nnoeonnYeha i have05:12
nnoeonnYeah*05:13
CarinArrdario, righto, give me a sec05:13
nnoeonnI got a readeon x300 card05:13
dariook05:14
nnoeonnI've installed the drivers i can find on adept manager05:14
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nnoeonnbut they wont work properly05:14
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dr_willissome of the newer ati cards are a bit flakey with the fglrx drivers05:14
dr_willismy x200 in my laptop. works.. but crashes often.05:15
nnoeonndr_willis: wich one should i use then?05:15
dr_willisati drivers are slower. but more reliable.05:15
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dr_willis'ati' vs 'fglrx'05:15
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CarinArrdario: when you run ./configure does it find Qt okay?05:15
nnoeonnjust want to watch dvd's and shit like that :S:S05:15
darioyes configure works05:16
darioand it says at the end run make now05:16
dr_willisnnoeonn,  ati driver should be fast enough for that.. try it and see05:16
CarinArrokay, just checking;)05:16
nnoeonnAti drivers, i install them through adapt manager, right dr_willis?05:17
dr_willis!ati05:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:17
dr_willisnnoeonn,  i just used the 'restricted-manager' tool05:17
nnoeonni use kubuntu, so where the heck is the "restricted-manager" tool? xD05:18
dr_willisinstall it05:18
nnoeonnwhere? O.o05:18
dr_willis!info restricted-manager05:18
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB05:18
nnoeonnI'm kind of a noob05:18
dr_williswith the package manager..05:18
GrueTamernnoeonn: in the konsole, do "sudo aptitude install restricted-manager"05:19
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nnoeonnalready installing it ;) but thnx anyway ^05:20
ryarendr_willis: Nothing happens :(05:20
geniiafk a bit05:20
GrueTamerk05:20
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CarinArrdario: on phone..05:20
dariook05:20
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markgreeneHey everyone. I am running the SIP Client Twinkle and I would like to record the audio that is coming out of my speakers. What's the best way to go about this?05:21
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danya_dr_willis I have installed that package and still cant find the X includes05:22
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vzduchmarkgreene: tried KRecord?05:23
BluesKajmarkgreene,where the audio is getting into your soundcard is where you should setup an app to record05:23
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dr_willisdanya_,  as i said earlier - i tend to search/install anything that even LOOKS close.. :)05:24
gdiebelwhat command triggers an acpi suspend?05:24
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markgreenevzduch: No I have not tried that. I will now thank you05:24
dr_willisdanya_,  search for  'dev' and see aht has X in it :) and start installing.05:24
markgreeneBluesKaj: I don't understand the explanation05:25
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danya_okay :) .. thank u guys I've only been using ubuntu for a couple of days now05:25
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BluesKajwhat source are you using , then setup an record app like krecord to record the audio from that source05:26
markgreenevzduch: When I launch Krec and then try to dial out with my SIP Client - The SIP Client tells me that it no londer has access to /dev/dsp. I am assuming because KRec has taken control05:26
llutzgdiebel: suspend-to-disk: sudo echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep05:26
vzduchlooks like your SIP client uses OSS for sound05:26
nnoeonndoing the "binarydriverhowto" now, seems to be working... but it's made for ubuntu, not kubuntu, does that have any effect? :S05:26
jhutchins_ltnnoeonn: Not really.05:27
dr_willisnnoeonn,  nope.05:27
dr_willisonly the documention is a bit different05:27
nnoeonnThen, what should i do ? xD05:27
markgreenevzduch: Yes it does, but I can set it to ALSA. Should I do that?05:27
dr_willissome day perhaps gnome and kde will join loveing hands and get their acts totether. :)05:27
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vzduchdunno if using a sound server alleviates the problem, I tend to turn sound servers off05:27
nnoeonnsrry, misunderstood xD05:27
jhutchins_ltnnoeonn: Ubuntu just uses the gnome desktop and defaults to some different apps.05:27
nnoeonn:P05:28
ryarenSby can help me in nvtv???05:28
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dr_williskedit, gedit,     kterminal, gterminal,  ksudo, gsudo. (NAh! cant do that!)05:28
geniidr_willis: I agree entirely05:28
jthomasgood day!  can anyone tell me how to launch my home computer's Gaim via SSH?  I don't want to run it here, I just want to start it from here so that it is running at home.05:28
dr_willisjthomas,  then what display is it to show up on?05:29
jhutchins_ltdr_willis: Ahem, that's kdesu, not ksudo.05:29
jthomas:005:29
karol_could anyone help me? i have hsdpa modem (ppp0). Firefox works fine but Konqueror doesn't seem to be working. It can't find google or any other page.05:29
geniijthomas just issue: sudo gaim -d05:29
dr_willisjhutchins,  as i was pointing out - it SHOULD be :) heh...05:29
vzduchdr_willis: it's all about diversity.. :)    besides, KDE was already up & running when Gnome was still freakin' alpha05:29
jthomasgenii: why sudo ?05:29
dr_willisDivestiy in nameing! yes! thats what we need!05:29
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geniijthomas This will detach it from the console so it runs after the terminal is closed05:29
jhutchins_ltKDE being derived from CDE.05:29
ubuntu_hey05:29
FireHazard17dont know much about ssh but would you just run "gaim" when you ssh in?05:29
jthomasgenii: won't it start as root though?05:29
nnoeonnwell guys, gotta go for an hour or so, but ill finish this up later ;)05:30
dr_willisI rember the old days of xterm, xwhatever, xspiffytool05:30
danya_dr_willis: I'm not actually sure what to install ..05:30
geniijthomas: Well, if you are logged as same username which the machine is uding by default may not need sudo then05:30
jhutchins_ltFireHazard17: Suppose you could.  You might need -X on the command line if it's not configured for X forwarding.05:30
vzduchjhutchins_lt: as to the idea behind it, yes.. but it was coded from scratch as CDE is/was non-open-source05:30
CarinArrdario: how did you get past the unaligned.h problem?05:30
dr_willisdanya_,  me either.. search for -dev' and see what looks right, and install in a shotgunn fashiin is what i do. :) I DO have a 500gb hd however.05:30
jhutchins_ltFireHazard17: I run stuff like kmail, korganizer, and pan from my desktop so that I don't have to try to sync different copies of the data.05:30
geniijthomas: There are many lectures to be given about running as root user by default05:30
darioi didn't past it05:30
jthomasgenii: so 'gaim -d' will attach it to my regular home desktop, so that my girlfriend will see it running?05:30
dr_willis!info xlibs-devv05:30
ubotuPackage xlibs-devv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:30
dr_willis!info xlibs-dev05:30
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darioi need help with it05:30
ubotuxlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB05:30
danya_dr_willis: I only have a 100gb hd :P05:31
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dr_willis!info x-dev05:31
ubotux-dev: dummy package for transition purposes. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.10-1 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB05:31
nnoeonn"only"05:31
markgreenevzduch: I don't understand what you mean by the sound server05:31
FireHazard17i only have 16005:31
jthomasgenii: i am not running as root, anywhere.  i am ssh'ed in as my normal user.05:31
CarinArrdario: didn't you said you "had another problem now"05:31
CarinArr?05:31
ryaren!nvtv05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
dariono05:31
ryaren!info nvtv05:31
dr_willisdanya_,   thats plenty.  Unless of course ya got 158gb of Porn.05:31
ubotunvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (feisty), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)05:31
FireHazard17but it has to share between windows and linux05:31
jhutchins_ltdanya_: Kubuntu will run just fine on a 10-20G drive.05:31
geniijthomas An additional switch or 2 may be needed to attach it to the proper X session. but there I would need to go google it or so on05:31
FireHazard17dr\05:31
FireHazard17oops05:31
dr_willisdanya_,  xorg-dev looks good also!@05:31
danya_lol willis :p05:31
FireHazard17dr_willis: i do05:31
vzduchmarkgreene: sound servers (in theory) allocate resources to applications so that you can use more than one app to play/record sound on the same device05:32
geniijthomas dr_willis may remember offhand faster than I how to specify what X session to latch onto05:32
jthomasgenii: thats what i need to know, how to run it and attach it to the proper display.  is it an ssh thing?  a gaim-specific thing?? or...?05:32
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dr_willis!find telepathy05:32
ubotuFound: galago-telepathy-feed, gossip-telepathy, libqttelepathyclient-dev, libqttelepathyclient0, libqttelepathycommon-dev (and 19 others)05:32
FireHazard17vzduch: arent that what mixers do?05:32
Nyledr_willis: what up05:32
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geniijthomas not ssh or gaim thing. more of how X itself runs05:32
gdiebelllutz: if I do that will /etc/acpi/suspend.d be used?05:32
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jthomasdr_willis: any suggestions for starting an app and having it attach to the logged in user at display :0 ?05:32
markgreenevzduch: So how should I go about making KRecord and Twinkle (the SIP client) play nice?05:33
llutzgdiebel: no05:33
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Nyledr_willis: the ubuntu netinst is available on the archive.ubuntu.com but its not documented anywhere05:33
vzduchFireHazard17, markgreene at the same time, that is05:33
Nyledr_willis: I finally found it05:33
dr_willisjthomas,  you would have to use the xhost+ stuff, to get permissions to do so. export the DISPLAY properly, then run the app05:33
jhutchins_ltjthomas: So you want to launch it remotely, but have it display on the machine you're connecting to, not the machine you're actually on?05:33
gdiebelllutz: so what is the proper way in ubuntu?05:33
vzduchmarkgreene: but you can try to go ALSA05:33
cs5genii, can you help again, I have mounted the partition, but I am no longer sure it is my NTFS volume as I still cannot access or modify. I even checked in windows and it doesn't show the new folder that I made. I made one in windows physically and am still unable to access it05:33
dr_willisjthomas,  easier to 'ssh -X thebox' and rin the app. :) a bit slower.. but safer05:33
llutzgdiebel: i don't know, suspend never worked here so i gave it up :(05:34
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markgreenevzduch: I just did and get the same results. Both programs cannot use the resource at the same time05:34
jthomasdr_willis: but i don't want to forward X to my current display; I want to start it here and have it run at home.05:34
jhutchins_ltjthomas: Generally that doesn't work, but I'm sure you could figure out how to make it work.05:35
jhutchins_ltjthomas: The thing is you not only need to attach it to the correct display (:0), you need xauth to allow you to access that display.05:35
dariotoday linux wants to give me problems today05:35
jthomasjhutchins_lt: really?  its a network operating system, this is one of its benefits!  i am logged in as the same user so i should have access, no?  i have root access if needed..05:36
geniics5 OK but you will need some patience05:36
jhutchins_ltjthomas: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html05:36
dr_willisjthomas,  problem will be getting the permissions to do so. (the xhost ) part.05:36
cs5np, i am full of it. I have lots of time too, so no rush, ty05:36
dr_willisjthomas,  or ssh over, run vncserver, and run it inside the vncsession :)05:37
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vzduchmarkgreene: gotta be an issue w/ your SIP client.. I just tried playing music on the same device w/ Audacious _and_ amaroK.. works fine05:37
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jthomasdr_willis and jhutchins_lt: thanks for the assistance so far!  i'll check that link...05:37
geniics5 As i understand, you only wish to access the files on the ntfs drive from linux, and not write to the drive from there, yes?05:37
CarinArrdario: hang on, might have fixed it05:37
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cs5Yes. writing would be a bonus but at this point reading is fine.05:37
darioho05:37
darioreally?05:37
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dariowhat was the problem?05:37
markgreenevzduch: must be05:38
geniics5 Ok. So the directory which you cannot access in windows is some folder you made from inside windows, not some folder you made from linux, yes?05:38
cs5yes, i tried to make it in linux first, and when it wasn't showing in windows, i made one there.05:39
cs5same name05:39
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CarinArrdario: great.. solved the unaligned.h problem only to uncover about a million others05:40
dariolol05:40
geniics5 So when you are in linux, you can view the ntfs files on /dev/hda1 or it just says that the drive is mounted but then you cannot view any files?05:40
vzduchcs5: can you make a screenshot of you partitioning scheme? (from qtparted, e.g.)05:40
dariotell me ho to solve unaligned.h05:40
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dr_willis!find unaligned05:40
dr_willis!find unaligned.h05:40
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ubotuPackage/file unaligned does not exist in feisty05:40
ubotuFile unaligned.h found in asterisk-dev, libaal-dev, libuclibc-dev, linux-headers-2.6.20-15, xen-doc-2.6.16 (and 2 others)05:40
cs5i will try , yes. Genii. It is mounted but i am not able to enter it.05:41
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dr_willisthere we go.05:41
kuryHey kubuntu guys... I have a friend that I have recently got setup with kubuntu but he has just emailed me saying he's got the GUI all hosed up...    what command can he run to restart X or whatever the default login manager is with kubuntu.. (kdm?)05:41
dr_willisdepends on how he hosed it..05:41
geniiwork, afk05:41
CarinArrdario: you can install linux-source and copy the unaligned.h from asm-yourkerneltype into /usr/include05:41
nnoeonnok, i've installed restricted-manager, how do i start it? xD05:41
dr_willis kdm is the login manager, but if ne messed up the x configuration, restarting KDM wont fix anything05:41
CarinArrit's ugly though05:41
kurydr_willis, sounds like he just need to create a new/unscrewed xorg.conf..05:41
CarinArrand it doesn't make it compile05:41
dr_willisnnoeonn,  type the command in the shell.. give ya 1 guess what the command name is... :)05:42
lebieshey dr_willis, tks for tip, that was the best 1-liner i've had in long time :) !05:42
jhutchins_ltkury: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will kill the current session and restart kdm.05:42
dr_willisnnoeonn,  hint type res<tab>05:42
jhutchins_lt!fixres05:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:42
cs5Genii, How do you do that exactly. Sry but I am lost at qtparted05:42
nnoeonnO.o05:42
dr_willisnnoeonn,  :)05:42
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nnoeonn...xD05:42
nnoeonnYou're teasing me :(05:42
kurydr_willis, I have him all setup to create a new xorg.conf... but I'm not sure how to restart kdm from the command line05:42
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lebiesalmost too damned easy, after grovelling around and re-installing a few times05:42
jhutchins_ltcs5: Forget qtparted, in a console do sudo fdisk -l05:42
dr_willisBzzzzz too late....  ~$ restricted-manager05:42
dr_willisheh heh.05:42
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dariowhere is asm-mykernelttype?05:43
dr_willisdo not pass g0. do not collect $200 :)05:43
MinatakuHeya genii, dr_willis :305:43
vzduchjhutchins_lt: that'd work as well05:43
nnoeonnshould be something like ./restricted-manager05:43
jhutchins_ltkury: /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:43
ubuntu_does anyone have problem with 7.10's networking? i installed newest packages yesterday and networking doesnt work anymore05:43
dr_willisnnoeonn,  ./would be for things in the current dir.05:43
jhutchins_lt!not working05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about not working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:43
cs5k. gonna pastebin05:43
jhutchins_lt!doesn't work05:43
vzduchubuntu_: /join #ubuntu+1 for questions on Gutsy05:43
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:43
nnoeonnshould be something like ./restricted-manager, right dr_willis?05:43
dr_willisnnoeonn,  since you instralled a program.. its in the normal PATH. no need for ./05:43
kuryjhutchins, really??  I thought that was a gentoo init setup?05:43
dr_willisnnoeonn,  makes sence eh?05:43
CarinArrdario: you have to install linux-source, untar it, find the folder called asm-generic (if you have a generic kernel), copy the unaligned.h into /usr/include/asm05:43
dr_willis  ./mylocalprogram05:43
nnoeonnkinda :P05:43
dr_willissystemwideprogram05:43
dr_willisKids these days! :) dont make me rant about my Vic-20!05:44
cs5http://www.pastebin.ca/60595505:44
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kurydr_willis, jhutchins Thanks guys...05:45
ryarenDo you know a useful guida to NVTV?05:45
dr_willis!nvtv05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
dr_willis!info ntvt05:45
ubotuPackage ntvt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:45
dr_willis!info nvtv05:45
nnoeonndr_willis, it says i dont need any drivers ?! :S05:45
CarinArrdario: i think i'd give up on this to be honest.. compilation is very iffy, and there's no guarantees it will actually work once compiled (if you get it to compile)05:45
nnoeonn(so yes i got it open xD)05:45
CarinArrdario: can you not contact the author?05:45
ubotunvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (feisty), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)05:45
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dariono i can't :/05:45
dr_willisnnoeonn,   you clicked on its icon.. and theres no 'fglrx/or whatever' options to check?05:45
ryarennothin :(05:46
dr_willisnnoeonn,  i do belive you need to do a 'kdesu restricted-drivers'05:46
dr_willisPerhaps ? let me chedk05:46
nnoeonnno i didnt click on its icon, i typed sudo restricted-manager, dr_willis05:46
dr_willisthat worked. :)05:47
BluesKajryaren, http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/05:47
dr_willisi ran restricted manager. and it shows my nvidia , and ndas drivers here.05:47
vzduchcs5: try mounting manually --> sudo mount -t ntfs -o defaults /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 (make sure /media/hda1 exists)05:47
nnoeonndr_willis: "your hardware doesn't need any restricted drivers"05:47
dr_willisgnome/kde have a applet/button that can show/make a shortcut to that tool.. thats what im thinking of.05:47
vzduchthen ls -l /media/hda105:47
dr_willisnnoeonn,  interesting.. whats you rhardware again?05:47
cs5mount point does not exist05:48
CarinArrdario: what is this plugin for again?05:48
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nnoeonnI got a ibm lenevo r52 with a radeon x300 card :P05:48
vzduchcs5: then create it --> sudo mkdir /media/hda105:48
dr_williscould be it dosent see/know the fglrx drivers support that card..05:48
dr_willisbut onb my x200m based laptop. it  installed them for it.05:48
nnoeonn...05:48
nnoeonn:(05:48
cs5goodexist05:49
dr_willisbut you may be as well off. just using the normal 'ati' drivers05:49
BluesKajdr_willis,the x300 is supported by the fglrx driver05:49
cs5then tried mounting again and got a responce thats different05:49
vzduchwhat response?05:49
dr_willisBluesKaj,  x200 is also.. but the thing is flakey. :)05:49
cs5udo mount -t ntfs -o defaults /dev/hda1 /media/hda105:49
cs5mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy05:49
cs5mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/LinuxMedia05:49
nnoeonnBlueskaj, i can't get it to work :S05:50
dr_willisBluesKaj,  of course this dfosent say why the restricted-manager isent seeing that.05:50
BluesKajmine's a x200G , it runs fine05:50
vzduchcs5: sudo umount /dev/hda105:50
CarinArrright i need to go shop05:50
CarinArrsee you all later05:50
vzduchthen repeat the above05:50
cs5ah because it was mounted in fstab?05:50
vzduchI guess so05:50
cs5no output is good, yes?05:51
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nnoeonnSo, blueskaj and dr_willis, what should i do :S05:51
dr_willisfstab dosent really do the mounting. :) it defines what gets mounted/where.05:51
vzduchexactly05:51
BluesKajbut of course i installed the modded and patched version from this tutorial , which a lot of ppl have trouble with , dunno why  : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty05:51
vzduchcs5: now ls -l /media/hda1 <-- pastebin the output05:51
nnoeonnI installed some "3d accelerator" from adept manager.... :S05:51
BluesKajtrouble with installing , not the driver05:51
nnoeonnThe driver was installed, but it doesnt work :S:S05:52
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cs5no output05:52
BluesKajdo 'fgl_glxgears' in the terminal, nnoeonn05:52
vzduchthen it's the wrong partition..05:53
nnoeonnUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer05:53
nnoeonnXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".05:53
nnoeonnX Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)05:53
nnoeonn  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)05:53
nnoeonn  Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)05:53
nnoeonn  Serial number of failed request:  3005:53
nnoeonn  Current serial number in output stream:  3005:53
nnoeonnSrry for the spam05:53
dr_willisnnoeonn,   not sure.  'restricted-manager' shows my ati x200m card on my laptop.05:53
nnoeonnMy wnt even start05:53
cs5it says in conquerer that could not enter /media/hda105:53
cs5but the properties are right now05:54
dr_willisnnoeonn,  your X is working however at this time?05:54
nnoeonnjust getting a error message telling me i dont need any restricted drivers05:54
nnoeonnyeah05:54
vzduchor does anyone know if you _need_ to mount NTFS volumes w/ a charset indicated in the options?05:54
nnoeonnit's working just fine05:54
cs5is it because the other stuff is in fstab now?05:54
dr_willisnnoeonn,  try a  #--->       grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf     see what driver its using.05:54
dr_willisnnoeonn,  should be a 'ati' or 'fglrx' line in the output05:55
vzduchcs5: if you unmount and remount to a different path the fstab has no say about it any more :)05:55
cs5ok05:55
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nnoeonnsrry for the spam now:05:55
nnoeonn Driver          "kbd"05:56
nnoeonn        Driver          "mouse"05:56
nnoeonn        Driver          "synaptics"05:56
nnoeonn        Driver          "wacom"05:56
nnoeonn        Driver          "wacom"05:56
nnoeonn        Driver          "wacom"05:56
nnoeonn        Driver          "fglrx"05:56
vzducheven if you mount to the same path.. it takes whatever mount options were last used, so in this case those you entered manually05:56
dr_willisjust need the relevant line05:56
dr_willisNOT the whole thing05:56
vzduch!pastebin | nnoeonn05:56
ubotunnoeonn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:56
dr_willisNote  it says fglrx.. you ARE using the fglrx drivers then.05:56
jthomasdr_willis and jhutchins_lt: thanks for the link on xauth but it was waaay over my head.  i am looking for specific HowTo or commands, not an abstract writeup on a concept that I don't yet use or know...  anyways i guess i can live without starting apps remotely for now.  thanks again.05:56
nnoeonnaah, sry :S05:56
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cs5Genii if that is not the dev for that frive is there a way i can find out what it really is?05:56
dr_willisjthomas,  thats why vnc is handy,05:56
nnoeonnbrb, gonna test ine thing05:56
jthomasdr_willis: yes vnc is another problem that i've never solved in 5 years of linux.05:57
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dr_willisjthomas,  its rather simple what you wan tto do.. BUT not save to be just allowing xauth restrictions to be removed.05:57
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dr_willisjthomas,  i find the 'vnc4server' program to be the best of the bunch.   most ofthe others dont set up the right defaults for my needs05:57
BluesKajnnoeonn, alt+f2 , type this' kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf '..copy and paste to pastebin so we can look at your whole file.05:57
dr_willisjthomas,  and i have to edit their configs to work how iu want them to05:57
BluesKaj!pasterbin05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pasterbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
BluesKaj!pastebin05:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:57
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vzduchcs5: according to the output of your fdisk it should be the right partition.. no idea as to why it won't work05:58
dr_willisi startedusing vnc 5+ yrs ago when it first came out. :) its been tweeked/ and twiddled with so much. its a bit of a mess05:58
jthomasdr_willis: every time i try it maybe lets me into my KDE but never as the session that is logged in at home05:58
Jacob90how do i uninstall an application from the terminal or konsole?05:58
jhutchins_lttightvnc works well for me, but I've mostly used it for remote windows desktops.  Now that rdesktop supports XP's internal protocol, I don't even do that much. Oh, one nt4 server...05:58
cs5oh05:58
nnoeonnkk, blueskaj05:58
cs5alright, well ty for trying genii05:58
jthomasdr_willis: but often enough its just a graphical X Shell but no KDE proper05:58
vzduchcs5: and no, I am not genii ;)05:58
jhutchins_ltjthomas: I believe the trick is to start it from within the session.05:58
dr_willisjhutchins,  i tend to use vnc locally, for 'hidden' desktops that are running just icewm+ktorrent, and so forth.05:58
cs5lol05:58
dr_willisjhutchins,  that way they stay going even after I log off. :)05:58
cs5sry vzduch05:58
Jacob90how do i uninstall an application from the terminal or konsole?05:59
cs5ty05:59
jthomasjhutchins_lt: yes that would be another issue that I asked about already today -- starting an app and attaching it to a running session.05:59
Jacob90anybody?05:59
dr_willis!apt05:59
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:59
jhutchins_ltdr_willis: I just use ssh + screen.05:59
dr_willisJacob90,  read up on 'apt-get' cmmand and its ussage05:59
nnoeonnhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28811/05:59
dr_willis Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto05:59
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jthomasok i gotta work, see yas!05:59
Jacob90alright thanks05:59
dr_willistoo often - i find vncserver setup to do what i DONT want. :)06:01
dr_willisi want it to read the users .vnc/xstartup and rin whats  in there. :) not give me a fancy kdm login.06:01
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cs5does anyone else have an ntfs and ext3 partitions that has succesfully mounted and used the ntfs from linux06:02
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dr_willisYes. all the time.06:02
nnoeonndr_willis, reading it?06:02
dr_williswith the proper fstab entry - its easy cs506:02
cs5can you help me?06:02
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danya_what's a Qt ? headers and libraries ?06:03
dr_willis# /dev/hda106:03
dr_willisUUID=0C4CF0DF4CF0C50C /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       106:03
dr_willisis my exampkle fstab entry.06:03
vzduchI have NTFS mounted read/write.. but no freakin' idea what the heck is going on w/ your partition06:03
cs5i have gotten some done with the kind help of genii, but I am still not able to access it even after mounting it06:03
dr_willisthere  documention all over for this.06:03
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dr_willis!find ntfs06:03
ubotuFound: libntfs-dev, libntfs9, ntfsprogs, libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0 (and 4 others)06:03
cs5i hear you, this is nuts.06:03
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dr_willis!find ntfs-config06:04
ubotuFound: ntfs-config06:04
jhutchins_ltcs5: Ok, do you want to walk through it again?06:04
dr_willis!Info ntfs-config06:04
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB06:04
cs5sure. everytime just helps me learn more.06:04
dr_willisabout all ive done on my new machines. is run that 'ntfs-config' tool06:04
jhutchins_ltcs5: Pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l06:04
Nyleman I just got this pc in for a repair06:04
nnoeonnhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28811/06:04
cs5!info: event not found06:04
dr_willisIt pays to learn the fundamentals. :)   if 'how do i edit a file' is somthing you are going to ask... well..06:05
jhutchins_ltcs5: Oh, and sudo mount06:05
Nyleinsane infections of virii spyware adware06:05
dr_willis!info is a BOT command. :)06:05
ubotuPackage is does not exist in feisty06:05
Nyleits crazy06:05
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vzduch# /dev/hda106:05
vzduchUUID=60684C8E684C653E /media/winxp    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=de_DE.utf8       0       006:05
vzduchworks fine for me06:05
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dr_willisIn the fstab entry -->   /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       106:05
dr_willisthe umask= and gid, are the IMPORTANT options. :)06:06
dr_willisnot sure where that gid came from however.06:06
vzduchdr_willis: in how far? mine works fine w/o umask06:06
llutzdr_willis: gid46=plugdev = for removable media06:06
BluesKajnnoeonn, copy and paste this at the bottom of your xorg.conf file : http://www.pastebin.ca/60597706:06
dr_willisvzduch,  read the lines and how they differ. ntfs, vs ntfs-3g perhaps06:07
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BluesKajnnoeonn, then save it06:07
cs5i have to register first jhutchins_it06:07
vzduchdr_willis: might be06:07
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dr_willisAFTER - ntfs-config i got ------>   /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 106:07
dr_willisso yep . seems to be a ntfs vs ntfs-3g diffeance06:07
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dr_willisInteresting06:08
cs5http://www.pastebin.ca/60598106:08
nnoeonnBlueskaj, ill restart now, brb06:09
jhutchins_ltcs5: Ok, now the output of mount, and your fstab.06:09
dr_willisand now after disabling the ntfs-writing with ntfs-config i get yet a 3rd fstab entry! :)06:10
dr_willis/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 106:10
vzducho006:10
dr_willisvzduch,  thats... interesting eh...06:10
vzduchthe umask looks like making it read-only06:10
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dr_willisYep. thats what i checked in  the ntfs-config06:11
vzducheven though that shouldn't be necessary w/ ntfs, because it can't write anyway06:11
dr_willisvzduch,  right.. it was  umask=007   befor.06:11
nnoeonnBlueskaj and dr_willis, You are gods. I now give you permission to bribe about you knowledge :D06:11
dr_willisI made backups of my fstab. :)06:11
dr_willisnnoeonn,  what happened now?06:11
vzduchdr_willis: which basically means no access for user and group but full access for everybody else06:12
llutzvzduch: wrong06:12
cs5http://www.pastebin.ca/60598706:12
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llutzvzduch: umask shows a mask not permissions06:12
dr_willisI think a slightly better done 'ntfs-config' tool would be handy.06:12
cs5me too06:12
cs5lol06:13
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nnoeonnDr_willies: well it works ^^06:13
nnoeonndr_willis*06:13
dr_willisntfs-config works.. but id like to be able to select which partitions to allow. :) and slightly clearer on whats going on.06:13
cs5i am sure it does if you know more, it is just difficult for us noob's06:13
dr_willisnnoeonn,  you were uising fglrx befor.. it should of been working befor.06:13
jhutchins_ltcs5: You can not access /media/hda1?06:14
cs5no06:14
nnoeonnwell it kinda works, but it's slow as hell06:14
jhutchins_lttail /var/log/messages, see if it says anything interesting.06:14
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cs5could not enter folder /media/hda106:14
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dr_willisnnoeonn,  whats slow? i really couldent tell the differance with ati vs fglrx on the 'desktop' on my laptop06:14
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nnoeonnwhen i watch a .avi file its lagging my ass off :S06:15
cs5messed eh?06:16
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dr_willishigh-res porn? :)06:16
nnoeonnhaha naa06:16
dr_williscould also be a avi/codec/player issue...06:16
jhutchins_ltcs5: Did you set it up with ntfs-config?06:16
nnoeonnstargate atlantis :S06:16
nnoeonnxD06:16
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dr_willisI tend to just use the pc's to convert videos for me to watch on my GP2x06:17
jhutchins_lt(Actually, I have an idea here...)06:17
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cs5no with konsole and kate06:17
cs5i had help, or i wouldnt have got that much06:17
cs5;)06:18
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dr_willisheh.. this is when it pays to learn the fundamentals..    and realize that theres a dozen ways to do somthing in linux.. with a dozen different 'variants'06:18
nnoeonn:P06:18
jhutchins_ltcs5: THere's a chance you need to install it, but let's try this: sudo ls /media/hda1/06:18
jhutchins_ltcs5: (Just tell me what it says, no need for a pastebin)06:19
dr_willisgrep ntfs /etc/fstab06:19
cs5it gives a list of files inside windows06:19
dr_willisMight be handy also...06:20
dr_willisso its Mounted then. :)06:20
cs5yes06:20
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nnoeonnbrb06:20
dr_willisthats step 106:20
jhutchins_ltcs5: Mounted, ready, accessible, you just need to add user access.06:20
nnoeonngonna take a smoke06:20
cs5ok06:20
cs5Lol06:20
RyarenDo you know a useful guide to NVTV?06:20
dr_willisI dont even know what NVTV is... :)06:20
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cs5any help there jhutchins_it06:21
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dr_williscs5,   You want read and write access to the device for all users?06:21
jhutchins_ltcs5: Your options should be  rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=00006:21
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jhutchins_ltcs5: Um, except change noauto to auto06:22
dr_willisis 'rw' doable with the normal ntfs?06:22
jhutchins_ltcs5: Change the fstab, unmount & mount the partition, you should be good to go.06:22
dr_willisbbl ya all.06:23
jhutchins_ltdr_willis: I think the ntfs driver is the ntfs driver - does ntfs-config install a different one?06:23
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cs5so should look like this? /dev/hda1        /media/   ntfs rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000     0       006:24
cs5but with auto right?06:24
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jhutchins_ltcs5: Right.06:24
cs5ty06:24
jhutchins_ltThe Powers That Be have decided that devices should by default be mounted with root only access - which is dumb.06:24
zerozeroI want to run a CLI command every hour, is this a job for cron or the at command?  Or is there a better tool?06:25
cs5Brilliant, Perfect, ty06:25
cs5works like a dream06:25
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MarcCzerozero: tried kalarm?06:26
zerozeroMarcC: no Ihave not, I'm in messwith with kcron as we speak06:26
cs5Thanks a million jhutchins_it06:26
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cs5to everyone that is helpful here really, I appreciate the support06:27
cs5so can i follow the same steps to mount remote drives on my lan?06:27
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MarcCzerozero: kalarm seems like it might be a little new-user oriented, but it's still powerful, so give it a try if you don't like kcron06:29
zerozeroinstalling it now06:30
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Nyleoh man06:33
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zerozerokalarm works nicely as well06:36
zerozerothanks06:36
MarcCnp06:36
herois there a ghost program for *nix?06:36
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MarcChero: check this out - http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page06:37
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herothank you.06:37
MarcCand btw it looks like it's included here:06:38
MarcChttp://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page06:38
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BluesKajnnoeonn, so fglrx works ok then? I was away for a bit ... phone call etc06:39
cs5anyone have an idea on why i cant play music. it adds it to playlist starts to play it and skips to playlist finished06:40
MarcCis the music on the network, or local?06:40
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Ryaren_Anyone can help me to configure twinview?06:41
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cs5local, it is on a ntfs volume on this machine.06:41
MarcCwhich player?06:41
Ryaren!twinview06:41
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead06:41
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cs5amarok and kaffine06:41
cs5kaffeine*06:41
cs5both do the same thing06:42
MarcCare they both set to use the same playback engine? it might be the engine06:42
MarcCtry VLC and see if the music plays06:42
Nyletwinview kinda sucks06:42
cs5possible, i am not sure how to check.06:42
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BluesKajwhynot copy to your linux music files ...trying to play files off ntfs partition is not gonna work06:43
NyleI have two 19" flats, each capable of 1600x1200@75Hz.  When I run dualhead with xinerama, I get 75Hz 3200x1200.  If I use nvidia twinview, I get 51Hz 3200x120006:43
Nyletwinview drops the refresh rate like a biznatch06:43
cs5it will not?06:43
MarcCsure it'll work06:43
cs5i will try to transfer them now.06:43
cs5lol, now you guys have me confused06:44
cs5lol06:44
MarcChas always worked fine for me06:44
MarcCsudo apt-get install vlc, then start vlc and play one of the files06:44
Nylekaffeine and amarok use xine06:44
MarcCsee if it plays so we know if it's an engine problem06:44
cs5trying it now06:44
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cs5couldnt find package06:44
BluesKajMarcC, VLC will play files off the windows partition ?06:45
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Ryaren!dualhead06:45
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama06:45
MarcCBluesKaj: sure?06:45
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MarcCcs5: open synaptic and do a search for vlc06:45
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MarcCcan't remember if it's wxvlc or something like that06:45
RivaeAeryaHow can i make konqueror lose all it's history when i close it? i mean, once i close the browser, it must erase all history06:46
MarcCI've played files off of NTFS all the time in both RO and RW modes06:46
BluesKajhmm, din't know that MarcC , i would have left my music files on windoze, but no matter ...ntfs is gone anyway06:46
MarcCbut I guess if you screwed up the partition mounting scheme somehow, that could be problematic :)06:46
MarcCBluesKaj: it's better that way (gone) ;)06:47
RivaeAeryaanyone know?06:47
geniics5: Sorry for being away so long, i was urgently required for some time here at work06:47
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BluesKajnever even tried it , i just assumed it wouldn't work ...of course i use amarok06:47
cs5np genii06:47
geniics5 Did you get assistance?06:47
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Hrenois kubuntu different from ubuntu just in KDE? so if I install KDE I have kubuntu basicly?06:48
cs5i got help and i am on the partition, just trying to figure out why i cant play music from it06:48
MarcCsomebody is working on making the VLC engine usable for Amarok, IIRC06:48
wonko_hello all! i seem to have almost finished upgrading from dapper to feisty. only thing is, the wlan0 device is now missing... do i need the ndiswrapper thingy for a rtl8180l pccard?06:48
geniiHreno The kubuntu-desktop package installs an kubuntu specific set of applications as a suite.06:48
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cs5i have no synaptic i dont think, Kubuntu seems to be all k(Something)06:49
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Hrenookay, thanks06:49
RivaeAeryaHow can i make konqueror lose all it's history when i close it? i mean, once i close the browser, it must erase all history06:49
MarcCcs5: open Amarok prefs and see if you can change the engine from Xine to something else06:49
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k3kshi everyone, i got a big problem06:49
MarcCit's in there under "Engine"06:49
BluesKajcs5, synaptic is agnome pkg manager , but you can install it on kde np06:49
geniiHreno: If you just install KDE alone, then you will need to install all the specific applications which comes automatically from installing the kubuntu-desktop package06:49
k3ksmy partition where /home lays is about 170GB big06:50
k3ksbut konquere shows only 59GB06:50
cs5xine is my only engine in the list06:50
MarcCcs5: sudo apt-get install wxvlc06:50
MarcCtry that06:50
k3ksalso the "System Settings" of kde06:50
cs5k06:50
k3ksbut gparted shows it correctly06:50
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cs5no package06:50
MarcC?!06:50
cs5lol06:51
k3ksand says that about 160Gb is in use06:51
MarcChow about xmms?06:51
MarcCtry xmms06:51
MarcCsudo apt-get install xmms06:51
BluesKajcs5 have you installed kubuntu-desktop or just kde?06:51
cs5its installing xmms06:51
wonko_anyone know how i can get my wlan0 device back after dist-upgrade?06:51
cs5just the default06:51
MarcCk, when xmms is installed, open it up and play one of those files from NTFS-land06:51
cs5kde06:52
BluesKaj!ndsiwrapper06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
BluesKajoops06:52
MarcCoh oh cs5; you should install kubuntu-desktop06:52
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cs5different disks?06:52
MarcCah ah ah06:52
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cs5or can i do it from my present instal?06:52
MarcCyou're using the CD repositories?06:52
cs5dvd06:52
BluesKaj!ndiswrapper06:52
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:52
MarcCnowwwww it makes sense06:52
wonko_BluesKaj: so ndiswrapper is what i should look into?06:52
cs5dvd live with instal options06:52
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cs5installed with ext3 and swap[06:53
cs5dual with xp06:53
ArtheaHi ...again i still have troubles accessing my ntfs partitions: they are mounted and the fstab has this "media/lab1 (auto in blue) auto,users,rw,auto,user,sync,atime,dev,noexec,suid 1,106:53
vzduchbtw, as to XMMS or rather its successors: I have some self-built Audacious binaries (Audacious 1.3.2, Audacious-Plugins 1.3.5).. I could repackage them according to *buntu standards and someone could host them if someone would be able and willing to assist me w/ that :)06:53
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MarcCcs5 - run adept manager and change the repos to network repos using the Adept menu06:53
Artheaso why i still don't have permission to access them ?? -_-06:53
MarcC(I think that's right)06:53
BluesKajwonko_, yes some pkges change their defaults after upgrades06:53
Hrenowhen does next version of Kubuntu comes out?06:53
cs5just trying the xmms06:53
cs51 moment plz06:53
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k3kshas anyone a clue about my problem?06:54
k3ksor knows what to search in google on this problam?06:54
RyarenSomebody knows the nvtv????06:54
heroMarcC: so partimage isn't really like ghost in the traditional sense. sounds like you'd be better off using dd maybe06:54
cs5well it is playing as i can see the progress and sound output, but I cant hear it so i am going fiddling with settings again06:55
MarcChero: ok, I haven't used it06:55
heroheh06:55
heroalright :D06:55
MarcCcs5: sound card make/model?06:55
heromaybe i'll just use ghost then, i guess06:55
cs5creative live 5.106:55
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wonko_k3ks: are you accessing home over the network or local mount?06:55
k3kslocal06:55
nnoeonnWhat does this mean?: modinfo: could not open fglrx: No such device06:55
cs5maybe different channel trying other plugs in card06:55
MarcCcs5: can you get other sounds to play, like in games/browser pages?06:55
cs5i had them working yes06:55
BluesKajk3ks,I think what you're seeing in konqueror is how much of the partition is in use , not what is free06:56
cs5i am not sure now I havent heard a sound all day06:56
MarcCcs5: my audigy requires a digital I/O switch be turned off in the mixer, otherwise it won't play a thing - and that switch gets enabled by default sometimes06:56
cs5ah06:56
MarcCso check the mixer06:56
nnoeonnBlueskaj: What does this mean "modinfo: could not open fglrx: No such device"?06:56
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cs5it is on my digital out06:56
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cs5xmms works nice06:56
MarcCyou have sound now?06:56
nnoeonni'm getting ite when i try to start restricted-manager06:56
cs5yes06:56
RyarenSomebody knows the nvtv????06:56
cs5nice sound too, ty06:57
k3ksBluesKaj: but he says that 88% are in use06:57
christian_Hola06:57
MarcCcs5: might as well try amarok or kaffeine now to see if they work06:57
cs5ok06:57
k3ksBluesKaj: and i can't copy files because theres no space06:57
cs5Nope they skip the playlist still06:57
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cs5wierd, ill try to move some and see if they will play them06:58
wonko_k3ks: what does df say?06:58
BluesKajcs5 , make sure your alsa and kmix have no mutes06:58
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k3ksdf?06:58
MarcCcs5: interesting :D06:58
k3ksah06:58
k3ksk06:58
k3ksmom06:58
wonko_open konsole and type 'df -h'06:58
wonko_heh :)06:58
cs5it still wont play them even when i copy to the ext3 partition06:59
k3ks90% in use06:59
k3ks52GB out of 60GB06:59
wonko_that is quite odd, so konqueror and df say different things06:59
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cs5very interesting, what does xmms do different than amarok and keffeine?07:00
wonko_and your partition is certainly 100 something bin in the partition manager07:00
MarcCcs5: but XMMS works...can you check XMMS prefs (right click) and see what playback engine it's using?07:00
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nnoeonnk3ks what about swap? O.o07:00
k3ksgparted says its 173.83 GB big07:00
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wonko_can you please also check that with cfdisk?07:01
k3ksand 165.84 Gb are in use07:01
k3kswhat should be with swap?07:01
cs5alsa 1.2.10 output plug-in07:01
cs5libalsa.so07:01
BluesKajnnoeonn, did you run 'fgl_glxgears' in the console ?07:01
nnoeonnthink so, one moment07:01
k3kscfdisk and what?07:01
MarcCcs5: can you go into Amarok prefs now, then to "Engine" and see which output plugin is selected? If "Autodetect," set to ALSA07:01
nnoeonnworks just fine07:02
cs5it is auto, i will change07:02
wonko_in konsole type cfdisk /dev/hda07:02
wonko_just to confirm the partition size07:02
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BluesKajnnoeonn, are you getting a 6sided rotating  cube wirh 3gears running on each face ?07:02
k3ksCannot open disk drive07:02
MarcCcs5: you might also need to change your repositories to the network and upgrade your system libraries07:03
cs5nope still skips it all07:03
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k3ksdo i have to umount it?07:03
wonko_no07:03
nnoeonnblueskaj: yupp07:03
RyarenPLSSSSSSSS somebody help me to configure TV-out I'm reallly stuck :(:(:(:(07:03
nnoeonnand i get 250 fps...07:03
wonko_as root?07:03
MarcCcs5: can you play any of the radio stations within Amarok?07:03
cs5marcc . i will try07:03
BluesKajnnoeonn, what were you trying to do when you received the rror message ?07:03
vzduchcs5: if it's a codec issue, amaroK should tell you w/ a pop-up07:03
k3kssize186,64 GB07:03
BluesKajerror07:03
nnoeonnopen restricted manager07:03
wonko_lol07:04
nnoeonnbut i dont get it.. if that test works fine, why doesn't everything else work? :S:S07:04
ObelixBurcan someone send me video codecs for MPG, AVI, etc?07:04
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k3ksthat's anyoing, i cannot use over 50% of my hard drive07:04
BluesKajrestricted manager , why /07:04
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ObelixBurI have Kubuntu Fiesty Fawn07:04
vzduch!codecs | ObelixBur07:04
ubotuObelixBur: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:04
nnoeonnI dunno xD07:04
nnoeonnsomethings wrong :S07:05
wonko_so both qtparted and konqueror agree that you have 8 gig left?07:05
ObelixBurThx, as you may notice, I'm a newbie to Kubuntu07:05
BluesKajok , do you have google earth installed , nnoeonn07:05
ObelixBurI had OpenSuse07:05
k3ksyes07:05
wonko_k3ks: btw, what filesystem?07:05
cs5connects to http server 0% then nothing07:05
k3ksext307:05
wonko_maybe you should fsck07:05
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k3ksmay that be dangerouse? ^^07:05
cs5marcc . how do i change to the repositories07:06
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wonko_hehe07:06
wonko_not really07:06
wonko_unless you set the right options ;)07:06
MarcCcs5: do you have Adept Manager open?07:06
k3ksarg, i'm not yet that familiar with linux07:06
vzduchcs5: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please :907:06
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cs5no i dont07:07
wonko_oh, it says the filesystem should be unmounted first07:07
vzduch!medibuntu07:07
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org07:07
MarcCcs5: open adept_manager and go to the Adept menu, then Manage Repositories07:07
wonko_do you have a bootable linux cd?07:07
wonko_e.g. knoppix or kubuntu lifecd?\07:07
k3ksone? hundred!07:07
k3ks*g*07:07
vzduchwonko_: life CD? o007:07
BluesKajnnoeonn, do ' fglrxinfo ' in the terminal and paste the output in pastebin07:07
wonko_^^07:07
k3kslol07:07
cs5ah, sudo....lol, i always forget07:07
MarcCcs5: wait, you said you didn't install kubuntu-desktop? If not, better install it now07:08
wonko_vzduch: *live :)07:08
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wonko_but it can save the former :)07:08
vzduchhrhr07:08
k3ksso i umount it, and that fsck it with witch options?07:08
wonko_none i think07:08
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k3ksk07:08
vzduchk3ks: -C should be fine (outputs a nice progress bar)07:08
nnoeonnwhat's the adress to the spamdump? :S07:09
cs5so how do i switch, I can do that easily from here?07:09
wonko_if it returns 0 then at least that is ok07:09
k3ksk^^07:09
cs5to desktop07:09
jhutchins_lt!pastebin07:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:09
nnoeonnthnx07:09
k3ksk, so i'm gonna try this07:09
k3ksthx07:09
MarcCcs5: did you have a question?07:09
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nnoeonnhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28826/ blueskaj07:09
wonko_do you have a separate home partition or all in one?07:09
k3ksseperate07:09
ObelixBurhow do I install Real Player?  It's a *.bin file07:09
wonko_so you don't need to reboot07:09
k3ksshould be enought to log out and than as root open a console07:10
k3ksright?07:10
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jhutchins_ltObelixBur: It would be better to install the kubuntu package.07:10
cs5yes marcc, how can i find out what version of kubuntu i am using, I am just trying to figure out if i am on desktop already or not07:10
wonko_jup07:10
MarcCcs5: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:10
k3ksthx07:11
MarcCcs5: it will tell you if it's installed or now07:11
MarcC*not07:11
k3ksbrb07:11
cs5ok07:11
wonko_ok07:11
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vzduchObelixBur: enable medibuntu as a repository & install via Synaptic/Adept/apt-get/aptitude (whichever you prefer)07:11
ObelixBurI'm using (I know that it is a sacrilege) the Windows XP at a cybercafe because I don't have an Internet connection at the house07:11
cs5kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.07:11
cs50 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.07:11
cs5already there07:11
cs5onto the repositories07:11
ObelixBurI know that it doesn't happen that often, but I'm in Belgium07:11
MarcCcs5: ok...then go to KMenu -> Run Command -> type "adept_manager"07:11
MarcCand click OK07:12
cs5got it07:12
vzduchObelixBur: honestly, you don't want a Debian-based distro if you don't have Internet access for the machine you put it on07:12
ObelixBurI know07:12
jhutchins_ltObelixBur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods07:12
MarcCok cs5, now to go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories07:12
cs5wow, there is lots i can install07:12
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ObelixBurI wanted to get Internet, but then my ex-wife ...07:12
ObelixBurany further questions?07:13
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nixternalbooyah!07:13
MarcCcs5: then check the "downloadable from the internet" items and uncheck the "installable from CDROM/DVD" items07:13
wonko_?07:13
wonko_nixternal: what did he do?07:13
ObelixBurI wish I had the money to have Internet07:13
MarcCcs5: after that's done, click "close" and then "fetch updates" on the main screen07:13
cs5its going07:13
nixternalwonko_: it isn't waht he did, it is what he was about to do...he has been spamming all of the channels07:13
vzduchObelixBur: what's the cheapest line you can get in .be?07:14
nnoeonnBlueskaj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28826/07:14
MarcCcs5: it'll probably have a lot of changes for you to apply07:14
ObelixBur39 euros07:14
wonko_nixternal: ok...07:14
cs5958 installed 4 upgradable 4462 available07:14
vzducho007:14
MarcCcs5: ok, that's not bad07:14
ObelixBurmy ex-wife and her mother refuse to die07:14
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ObelixBurand I just got socked with a 3000 euro IRS kick in the ... I'll save the explanations07:15
cs5away it goes07:15
MarcCcs5: try installing amarok-engines if amarok still doesn't work (search for "amarok" in the search bar)07:15
ObelixBurbut you get the idea?07:15
ObelixBurI had DSL07:15
vzducho007:15
MarcCcs5: amarok-engines will put other options in the "Engines" area of Amarok prefs07:15
marko_is there any program like movie maker?07:15
ObelixBurand will - hopefully - soon get it again07:15
jhutchins_ltObelixBur: Life happens.07:15
jhutchins_ltObelixBur: You could probably run linux in the cafe, I have.07:16
ObelixBurall I need - want - to do is to watch films07:16
ObelixBurthey only have Windows07:16
jhutchins_ltObelixBur: Well, no real need to run linux then.07:16
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jhutchins_ltObelixBur: Was there something you needed help with?07:16
ObelixBurof course, there is another place who could help07:16
MarcCmarko: something like Kino should work07:16
ObelixBuranyway, thanks07:16
ObelixBurlife happens ... and then it hits the fan07:16
ObelixBurfortunately, I have a new wife ... and she doesn't spend like the other did07:17
ObelixBurI may go back to OpenSuse07:17
ObelixBurbye*07:17
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herohehe, the second image introducing kde4 is a bug window.07:18
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nnoeonnyou there blueskaj?07:19
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cs5ok marcc07:20
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nnoeonn* looks at genii ... ^^07:23
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whippyhello07:23
nnoeonnO.o07:23
whippykennst sich jemand von euch mit linux gut aus?07:23
whippybin auf der Suche nach einer Server Distribution...07:23
geniinnoeonn: I usually just drink coffee but have rotut right now :)07:24
whippywelche kann empfohlen werden?07:24
geniirotut=rotgut07:24
vzduch!de | whippy07:24
ubotuwhippy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:24
whippyoke,07:24
wonko_^^07:24
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benutzerok07:24
whippydoes someone know a real fine server distribution for Linux?07:24
whippyi'm searching for one...07:24
whippydebian sarge? perhaps?07:24
wonko_whippy: was magst denn damit machen?07:25
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geniiwhippy Yes, that would be my recommendation. Or RHES07:25
whippy@wonko, einfach nur eine spielerei...07:25
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whippyserver aufsetzen halt...07:25
jhutchins_ltTHere's Ubuntu LTS07:25
vzduchwhy Sarge? Etch should be stable enough these days07:25
wonko_whippy: dann _unbedingt_ gentoo :)07:25
whippyEtch?07:25
vzduchjhutchins_lt: yes ;)07:25
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whippysome one is tetlling i should use -> gentoo?07:25
vzduchwhippy: 4.007:25
vit_hola07:26
vit_a todos07:26
vzduchGentoo for a server? o noes..07:26
jhutchins_ltwhippy: NO!!!07:26
whippyjhutchins Ubuntu LTS?07:26
geniivzduch: I'm still getting aggravating issues on 64bit Etch07:26
wonko_hehehehe07:26
whippygenni? debian etch?07:26
whippy;)07:26
genii32 should be OK tho07:26
wonko_he said it's just a fun project :)07:26
vit_necesito q me digan como instalar tibia en mi pc07:26
jhutchins_ltwhippy: You have to constantly update and upgrade gentoo, very bad for a server.07:26
geniiwhippy Yes07:26
whippyyeah, its only a fun project...07:26
geniiwhippy For just a learning server, use Ubuntu 6.0607:26
whippy@jjutchins, but you should also update other server distris, or?07:27
wonko_i think you'll learn most if you use gentoo for it, but whatever...07:27
whippynot constantly,07:27
whippybut up 2 date ;)07:27
vit_what this the best linux or windows??07:27
jhutchins_ltTHere are others you can just let run, install the security updates regularly.  Not gentoo.07:27
vzduchgenii: 64bit is still the problem.. it just seems as if the transition from 32bit to 64bit is going a lot slower than from 16bit to 32bit some 15 years ago07:27
geniivit_ Need you ask i here? Really...07:27
whippyi never tried ubuntu LTS?07:27
whippyis the server version...07:27
whippy?07:27
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vit_vista07:27
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nnoeonnYou there blueskaj?07:28
wonko_vit_: what is tibia?07:28
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nnoeonntibia is a game07:28
geniiwhippy ubuntu LTS = ubuntu server 6.06 Long Term Support07:28
whippyah,07:28
whippyi see07:28
nnoeonnvit_: you play tibia? O.o07:28
whippyyeah i heard about it07:28
whippythe long term support...07:28
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geniiwhippy You download the alternate install CD for 6.0607:28
whippyi also thought about07:28
whippyFC-607:29
geniiwhippy And install the LAMP server07:29
whippyshould be also fine...07:29
whippyyeah, i know lamp ;) real fine stuff07:29
whippyxampp07:29
kalorinlamp?07:29
geniikalorin: Linux Apache Mysql PHP07:29
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jhutchins_ltwhippy: FC has too short a support cycle, I'd recommend against it.  They also don't have smooth dist-upgrades.07:29
wonko_is tibia a browser game?07:29
Sannewhippy: for a server a stable distro is better, meaning that during lifetime there won't be new versions, but the stable versions get bugfixes. In a distro which is not version stable you only get bugfixes when you upgrade the software to newer versions. that's considered not optimal for servers.07:29
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jhutchins_ltwhippy: k/ubuntu and Mandriva can do version upgrades.07:30
jhutchins_lt(Well, so can gentoo, but...)07:30
jhutchins_ltwhippy: I wouldn't do Mandriva for a server though.07:30
geniiwork calls, AFK, indeterminate time07:30
herowhen is kde4 scheduled to be released?07:30
kalorinstupid work07:30
jhutchins_ltwhippy: I'm probably going to convert my gentoo boxes this summer some time07:30
heronot alpha or beta.07:30
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jhutchins_lthero: http://kde.org or #kde07:31
whippy@jhutchins----07:31
whippyubuntu LTS, u mean?07:31
kalorinall i want is photoshop07:31
whippywhat server distris are used in the INTERNET for Services?07:31
jhutchins_ltkalorin: That's like $750+ US07:32
whippyi often asked myself....07:32
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jhutchins_ltwhippy: Debian, RHEL, Centos.07:32
kalorinjhutchins_lt: to run natively on linux i mean07:32
whippyokay,07:32
whippywhy shouldn't i try them?07:32
whippyRHEL ;)07:32
whippyi'm interested in Computer Science....07:32
whippysoooo ;)07:32
kalorinRHEL and CENTOS are the same07:33
jhutchins_ltkalorin: Not really.07:33
kalorinno really07:33
jhutchins_ltcentos is usually behind RHEL, often lacks hardware support.07:33
whippywhere can i get RHEL?07:33
jhutchins_ltwhippy: redhat.com07:33
whippysearch'd for it...07:33
whippycan u post a link07:33
whippyi got it...07:34
whippythanks07:34
RyarenPLSSSSSSSS somebody help me to configure TV-out I'm reallly stuck :(:(:(:(07:34
kalorintv-out?07:34
Ryarenyupp07:34
whippyRHEL dvd would be fine,07:34
Ryarennvtv for example07:34
whippythere are only cd-isos07:34
kalorinjhutchins_lt: my understanding with centos is that they're just pulling the source rpm's and compiling them and giving them out for free07:34
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kalorinsince redhat can't charge for the programs themselves, they have to charge for support and the service of compiling them07:35
jhutchins_ltkalorin: Thing is not all of RHEL is OS, and centos tends to run behind them anyway.07:35
kalorinwe're going to centos here at work on most of our stuff07:35
cs5marcc is there a list of updates and packages you would suggest for someone who wants to maximize their use of the system07:35
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whippy@jhut...07:35
jhutchins_ltkalorin: Are you running centos?07:35
whippyyesterday i tried to install kubuntu07:35
kalorinI'm not at this point07:35
whippyon a amd2800+ machine07:36
kalorinthey're going to start doing it on our servers I mean07:36
whippywith a radeon 9250 grahpic card.07:36
whippyddr 128mb07:36
kalorinI've got kubuntu, debian, redhat EL, centos07:36
dec_can anyone help - I just installed the app dvdstyler and i cannot access it it is not on the menus07:36
whippybut when i configured the 16:9 screen...07:36
kalorinwhippy, ati cards aren't much fun to install ubuntu with07:36
whippykubuntu didn't wanted to boot again,07:36
whippyi modiefied the xorf.conf07:36
kalorinyou have to stop the install and add some packages and then do it again on first boot07:36
whippyppphhhuuu07:37
kalorinI've got an x700 at home07:37
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whippydoesn't sounds funny07:37
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vzduchkalorin: ATI cards aren't much fun w/ any Linux distro I know..07:37
kalorinit's not that bad once you know what you have to do07:37
whippyyeah but the machine boots07:37
MarcCcs5: there are a *lot* of really good packages out there...I guess it just depends on what you want - gaming, productivity, multimedia, etc.07:37
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whippyin a relosotion of 1024x76807:37
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whippybut not on 1400x90007:37
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jhutchins_ltAs long as you get console, who cares?07:38
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vzduchjhutchins_lt: *gg*07:38
cs5all of the above marcc, although ithought gaming wasnt really an option on linux, or I wouldnt even use windows07:38
whippywhat graphic cards are opensource supported?07:38
whippyand which one not...07:38
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whippynvidia ? opensource?07:38
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MarcCcs5: it depends on what you mean by gaming - if you mean "latest FPS on store shelves," then yeah, Windows or a game console are good. But I do a lot of emulation, so it's not a big deal to me.07:39
jhutchins_ltwhippy: Pretty much everything has some level of support.07:39
jhutchins_ltwhippy: If you want to play windows games, run windows.07:39
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whippy@jhut i'm not playing07:40
MarcCcs5: Automatix (or whatever the politically correct alternative is) contains a lot of packages that people like to have setup on their systems.07:40
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jhutchins_lt!automatix07:40
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:40
jhutchins_ltBetter to use a decent howto and your own brain.07:40
MarcC!WorksForMe07:40
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.07:40
whippy@jhut is it possible to record a dvb-s signal on kubuntu?07:40
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MarcClol07:40
cs5ok. you use wine (I know its not an emulator) and what else to use windows software(Ie games)07:41
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MarcCtoo bad there's no alternative07:41
whippyis there already software... for such stuff07:41
jhutchins_lt!mediabuntu07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
MarcCcs5: I don't really play windows games...go to happypenguin.org and look around - if you see something you like, check in adept_manager07:41
cs5ty07:41
dec_can anyone help - I just installed the app dvdstyler and i cannot access it it is not on the menus07:41
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jhutchins_ltdec_: dpkg -L dvdstyler will show you what you installed.07:42
dec_after running that what am i looking for installed07:43
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cs5well after updateing amarok I can buffer online streams but still wont play using my settings, and i installed the amarok-arts engine but it doesnt show in amaroks settings07:44
whippycool mediabuntu seems really nice ;)07:44
cs5xmms still works great though ty07:44
binksi have myth and kaffeine installed so i think myth is locking my dvb ow can i stop it so kaffeine can use the adapter07:44
whippyin a few minutes i learned sooo much ;) cool thanks ;)07:44
whippy@cs5 try audicious07:44
whippyaudicious is also cool07:44
MarcCcs5: that's weird, I've never had such a problem with Kaffeine or Amarok :( but online streams will play in XMMS too, FWIW. Might want to install StreamTuner if you like online radio.07:45
oslo_LIVECDhi my pc stuck at fsck on the home partition..right now i'm on a liveCD what can i do ???07:45
whippyaudacious07:45
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whippyas player07:45
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vzduchwhippy: only Audacious is not current in *buntu.. better build yourself (I did)07:45
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cs5ah i have about 14000 songs so i think ill survive07:45
cs5lol ;)07:45
whippyi installt it throuch apt-get install07:45
MarcCcs5: cool :)07:45
whippyit worked07:45
whippy?07:45
K-Ryan14 thousand songs? o.O07:45
whippywhy to build self?07:45
vzduchwhippy: I know it works.. but who wants 1.2.5 if you can have 1.3.2? ;)07:46
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whippyokay, i see07:46
whippyyou man load tar.gz07:46
whippy./configure07:46
whippymake07:46
whippymake install07:46
whippy?07:46
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vzduchindeed07:46
cs5i have too much i cant even listen to them all07:46
cs5should have stopped at 1000007:46
whippyguys, i think i gonna try, FC-6 as a new client, for a new machine07:47
K-RyanThe RIAA would love to get their hands on you07:47
cs5lol07:47
whippyubuntu is also cool i gonna let it on an antoher machine07:47
vzduchwhippy: why take FC6 if there's F7?07:47
whippyit didnt find a right .iso07:47
whippythey didnt work...07:48
whippyseems to be corrupt07:48
vzduchno problem here.. I have the DVD, even had it installed07:48
BluesKajwhippy, FC-6 will give you grief, the repository system sucks07:48
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whippycant you install in FC-6 with07:48
vzduchBluesKaj: if you know what to pick it's not that problematic07:48
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whippyapt-get install ?07:48
vzduch!botsnack07:48
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:48
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whippyahhh07:49
whippyjeah y're right07:49
whippyyum is the staller07:49
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gnomefreakwhippy: you can use apt-get as well07:49
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whippythe only thing is,07:49
gnomefreakwhippy: still should be talked about in #kubuntu-offtopic07:49
vzduchof course you can.. but it's not officially supported07:49
whippythat it uses gnome...07:49
whippyi preefer kde07:49
whippymuch more...07:49
vzduchwhippy: you can install KDE07:49
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K-Ryan!hi07:50
whippycan you tell me how?07:50
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:50
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K-RyanAhaha07:50
whippyyum install kde ?07:50
vzduchI guess so07:50
vzduchor directly at install time07:50
whippyoke07:50
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fqlhey, I'm running the kde4-aplha2 livecd in qemu (on kubuntu feisty), but it is reallly slow, do you know although my computer doesn't support kvm I can still use kqemu acceleration? and do you know how?07:50
whippygonna try next time07:50
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vzduchwhippy: for Fedora questions check at ##fedora07:50
whippycan me someone tell what programming language to learn?07:51
BluesKajwhippy , i'm a relitive Linux noob , but in the last 3 yrs i've tried all the biggie Distros , suse. mandriva, FC , ...debian & kubuntu are the most logical and stable IMO07:51
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whippyi programmed c#07:51
runpain2 i screwed up my laptop  i had windowsxp loaded on the internal hard drive i loaded kbuntu on an usb harddrive and when i rebooted laptop after install it reads grub loading stage 1.5 grub loading,please wait error21 is stuck there can any one help me here?Please07:51
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whippylittle bit java07:51
K-Ryanwhippy: It depends on what you want to do07:51
vzduchwhippy: C++ is never wrong07:51
dario!find unaligned.h07:51
ubotuFile unaligned.h found in asterisk-dev, libaal-dev, libuclibc-dev, linux-headers-2.6.20-15, xen-doc-2.6.16 (and 2 others)07:51
whippybut i want to develop for a GUI interface07:51
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whippyand searching for something running on linux and windows...07:51
cs5marcc ty for the happypenguin, nice site.07:51
K-Ryanrunpain2: You needed to put a /boot partition on the hard drive, not the usb hard drive07:51
whippyso java would be it?07:51
runpain2i want xp on lap top and kubuntu on the usb harddrive07:51
RyarenHow can i get my video card's BusID?????07:51
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fqlwhippy: c++ with qt4?07:52
runpain2how07:52
gnomefreakRyaren: lspci07:52
whippythought about widgets and so on....07:52
Ryarenthank you07:52
runpain2k r07:52
whippyand i want to have a IDE with drag and drop to07:52
K-Ryanrunpain2: You can do that I think, but you need to put /boot on your laptop.07:52
CarinArrwhippy: qt is very nice07:52
whippyqt4?07:52
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fqlwhippy: for the gui there is designer with qt407:52
whippyare these widgets?07:52
marko_is there any program like movie maker ?07:52
runpain2how please07:52
fqlwhippy: yes qt4 is where kde4 is made with07:53
CarinArrwhippy: http://trolltech.com/products/qt/07:53
whippyjava seems to be the stream?07:53
whippythe mainstream?07:53
K-Ryan!grub07:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:53
runpain2should i reboot07:53
runpain2with live cd07:53
whippythought about eclipse or netbeans07:53
K-RyanWhat are you on now?07:53
wonko__whippy: what do you want to do with it?07:53
Ryarengnomefreak: always PCI?? in xorgconf07:53
whippygraphical software...07:53
runpain2still at laptop last error07:53
fqlwhippy: jep java is very popular, but c++ also still is, I think since this is a kubuntu (kde) channel most people here will prefer c++ (since kde is written in it)07:54
whippyruninng on kde, gnome, perhaps xface, and win07:54
CarinArrwhippy: when you say graphical software are you talking just something with a gui or something to do with actual graphics07:54
gnomefreakRyaren: yes07:54
Ryarenokay07:54
runpain2k07:54
K-RyanOh you're here from a different computer.07:54
whippyonly GUI,07:54
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K-Ryanrunpain2: You'll need to reboot with the live cd, yes07:54
runpain2k07:54
gnomefreakRyaren: apg or pci or pci express and so on in Xorg they are known as pci07:54
whippybut perhaps also OpenGL when i would have time to learn it...07:54
runpain2at it now07:54
whippyfor example,07:54
Ryarenokay got ya07:54
K-Ryan!grub | runpain207:54
uboturunpain2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:54
fqlwhippy: for opengl c is the way to go07:54
K-RyanTry the first link07:55
whippyin what language are the GUI programms in ubuntu programmed?07:55
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runpain2k07:55
wonko__whippy: ok, for just the gui i would use python with qt07:55
gnomefreakwhippy: please take teh offtopic topics to #kubuntu-offtopic07:55
herohow useful is kat?07:55
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Admiral_Chicagohero: cat?07:55
hero!kat07:55
gnomefreakhero: kat or kate?07:55
ubotuServices to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)07:55
gnomefreakah07:55
vzduchwho's running VMware Server?07:55
heroi wonder how often it indexes.07:55
fqlwho knows what kqemu is?07:55
fqlgoogle doesn't know..07:56
whippykqemu is an emulator,07:56
Admiral_Chicagofql: its a virtualization tool like VMware, Xen etc07:56
gnomefreakfql: kde version of qmenu07:56
whippythe kde verion of it07:56
vzduchgnomefreak: no, it isn't07:56
gnomefreakfql: google qmenu07:56
gnomefreakvzduch: it is as qmenu is another vm type app07:56
whippykqemo is an emulator for booting /emulating a pc,07:56
fqlyep, but I know what qemu is, but kqemu is supposed to be an accelerator? but I don't know if it depends on kvm and how to enable it07:56
whippythe kde version07:56
whippyone more time ;)07:57
runpain2lost windows after ubuntu install to usb07:57
vzduchgnomefreak, whippy: I remember guessing that in a Usenet discussion, and the ppl told me it has got nothing to do w/ KDE07:57
K-Ryanrunpain2: Try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-f5b2b33b369cf4e319ad0f1df557c42290ba2d3307:57
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whippy@vzduch... read a little bit on sourceforge07:58
whippyhttp://kqemu.sourceforge.net/07:58
runpain2k kr07:58
cs5is there more repositories than is default in adept?07:58
fqlI did run sudo aptitude install kqemu-common, but still qemu tells me: Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated07:58
whippy@vzduch you believe?07:58
Admiral_Chicagocs5: on feisty and later, not stable ones07:58
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fqlwhippy: I think kqemu is amibu07:59
fqls/amibu/ambigu07:59
Admiral_Chicagofor dapper, edgy etc, yes. what release are you on07:59
cs5ok07:59
cs5um, hmmmm feisty i elieve07:59
cs5lol07:59
cs5only 3 weeks old07:59
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K-Ryanrunpain2: I never had to do this so I'm not sure if it's going to add in just Linux, or Linux and Windows07:59
rustalotI can't get the package for the qt-designer documentation w/ apt-get, can someone point me to a .deb file?07:59
gnomefreakvzduch: your right sorry i could have swore it depended on libqt307:59
Admiral_Chicagocs5: lsb_release -a will tell you for sure08:00
cs5all my repositories say dapper though....sooooo08:00
K-Ryancs5: Why'd you wait so long to upgrade? I upgraded as soon as I found out there was a new release out =)08:00
whippy@fql---?08:00
whippywhat is kqemu?08:00
cs5yep dapper08:00
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K-Ryansudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:00
Admiral_Chicago!reps > cs508:00
runpain2ill try08:00
Admiral_Chicagoerr08:00
fqlwhippy: I don't know exactly, but it is supposed to speed up qemu08:00
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runpain2thks kr08:00
K-Ryanchange dapper to feisty08:00
whippyhttp://kqemu.sourceforge.net/08:01
Admiral_Chicago!repos > cs508:01
K-RyanYou're welcome runpain208:01
Admiral_Chicagocs5: check the link the bot is telling you08:01
gnomefreakK-Ryan: no08:01
whippythen please take a look at: http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/08:01
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K-Ryangnomefreak: ?08:01
gnomefreakcs5: change dapper to edgy08:01
whippyso it seems to be a kde version of qemu?08:01
K-RyanOh, whoops =)08:01
gnomefreakK-Ryan: never skip releases08:01
fqlwhippy: mm, maybe amigu is not a english word, it means the same word has more meanings08:01
gnomefreak:)08:01
K-RyanI thought he was on Feisty though08:01
cs5edgy more stable?08:01
gnomefreakthats one sure way to screw up a system08:01
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gnomefreakcs5: you need to upgrade 1 release at a time08:01
K-Ryangnomefreak: I thought he was on Feisty and it just said Dapper08:02
K-RyanThat was my mistake =)08:02
cs5it is Dapper.08:02
gnomefreak!upgrade08:02
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ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)08:02
K-RyanOkay, it makes perfect sense to me now08:02
cs5!upgrade08:02
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gnomefreakcs5: since you are going up 2 releases i suggest you do a fresh install of feisty08:02
K-RyanUpgrading to edgy was a pain08:02
whippywho did talking to me about c++ and qt4?08:02
K-RyanFeisty was nice and easy though08:02
whippyseems to be really fine08:02
pwilsonI'm getting an error quite constantly in terminal, could someone help? It says "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" how can I remidy this?08:02
fqlwhippy: but I'm going to wait for the next kubuntu, it is supposed to include a release candidate of kde4 so I don't need to emualte it :-)08:02
CarinArri try to stay awy from actually upgrading08:03
fqlwhippy: that was me08:03
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CarinArri keep things separate and just reinstall completely08:03
agresorHello All.08:03
cs5so i need new dvd?08:03
Admiral_Chicagocs5: no08:03
whippy@fql gonna try qt4,08:03
cs5or can i instal from same disk08:03
cs5ok08:03
gnomefreakcs5: or cd  you dont have to but i suggest it08:03
Admiral_Chicagocs5: well, actually you do08:03
agresormy fglx driver dont work08:03
whippyseems to be used evrywherer08:03
K-RyanYou install from the net unless you use the cd08:03
agresorDirect rendering : NO08:03
MarcCcs5: upgrading your distro shouldn't go so bad - you don't have anything but official packages installed08:03
K-Ryan!fglrx08:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:03
agresori have ati 920008:03
Admiral_Chicagocs5: it'll be faster08:03
agresor;s08:03
agresoris fglx support 9200 ?08:03
gnomefreakcs5: please read the above comment by ubotu on how to upgrade08:04
K-RyanDunno08:04
gnomefreaksorry dont get new cd08:04
gnomefreakyou know what i mean08:04
whippykubuntu is one of the best systems i ever tested,08:04
CarinArro.O08:04
agresorbrb08:04
whippyits really stale,08:04
cs5i have alot of reading to do....lol ty. Ill read first and come back it seems there is much help for me yet08:04
whippystable08:04
gnomefreakdownload the iso and install it but save anything you need or want to save08:04
pwilsonhow do I install the Xfree86 DRI extention?08:04
gnomefreakcs5: with upgrading you are going to run into issues (that is a 95% odds)08:05
BluesKajwhippy, I'm surprised you aren't praising the likes of freebsd :)_08:05
pwilsonTo Fix -"XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"08:05
whippydoes someone know where to change the auto-loader for software?08:05
cs5so better to clean instal then08:05
whippyif i klick on a file with .jpg it openes for examp gimp,08:05
gnomefreakcs5: yes08:05
whippyhow can i change the opening software?08:05
gnomefreakcs5: when you are not just doing one release08:05
BluesKajpwilson, what graphics card ?08:05
K-Ryanright click on a file of that extension, go to properties08:05
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agresor!fglrx08:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:05
Admiral_Chicagowhippy: its in system settings >> default applications08:05
pwilsonATI Radean M2208:05
K-RyanOr follow what Admiral_Chicago said08:06
pwilsonThey are installed, and working, just getting that error.08:06
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whippycool thanks,08:06
whippyonly wanted to know if i would need ;)08:06
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pwilsonopen gl is working, (1200 fps with glx gears) I just keep getting that prob in terminal.08:07
whippywo programms in qt4 here?08:07
IvisK-Ryan,  do u know who rpocess can disable to PC go faster08:07
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CarinArrwhippy: i do08:07
CarinArrbut this is offtopic08:07
K-RyanNot really, sorry lvis08:07
whippy@carinarr do you use a IDE with drag and drop?08:07
K-RyanYou can use a different window manager08:07
K-Ryan!fluxbox08:07
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox08:07
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gnomefreakwhippy: take it to #kubuntu-offtopic08:08
CarinArrwhippy: qt-designer does that08:08
IvisK-Ryan,  fluxbox is hard there i can't set wallpapers,icons08:08
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whippywhat is the irc command to change channel08:08
K-RyanIt's not hard08:08
servicehi there. i have a question about computers. can anyone help? please08:08
CarinArrwhippy: sudo apt-get install qt4-designer08:08
Ivis:)08:08
whippythanks08:08
pwilsonSo, if the proper driver is installed, could the missing dri extention error just be an issue with my xorg.conf file?08:08
K-RyanYou right click and it's in one of those menus08:08
gnomefreaktry /j #kubuntu-offtopic08:08
K-RyanLet me find it08:08
whippythanks08:09
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K-Ryanbrb...08:09
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nnoeonn!nvidia08:09
whippy@carinarr do you move to kubuntu offtopic with me...08:09
whippythankds08:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:09
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fenrighi08:10
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wanderlangeHi! Hola! Ol!08:11
fenrigwhen i push the eject button of my cd drive i get the error that only root can umount /dev/hda08:11
fenrigis there a fix08:11
fenrigbecause this is not normal08:11
Admiral_Chicagoodd. you may need to set fstab to mount cd drive as user08:11
fenrigi know made a script that umount /dev/hda but i just want to do it faster08:11
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agresor;D08:12
agresorSuccess..08:12
fenrigfstab, what is the location of this (text)file08:12
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agresordriver "ati" work for my ATI 920008:12
agresor:))08:12
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BluesKajpwilson, the Radeon driver for X300 and M22 supports only 2D , so I assume DRI is also excluded ...the following tutorial has been successful with some X300 cards , so it may work for the M22. http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty08:12
agresorrendering works08:12
agresor:D08:12
CarinArri am08:12
CarinArrer08:12
CarinArrwrong widnow08:12
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agresoris there eny software that alows startup programs menanger ?08:13
agresori need startup menanger ?08:13
sx66where do I set my power management properties?08:13
cs5i am going to do a fresh instal as i have to go 2 upgrades and am not very good with ubuntu yet, is there a dvd or only cd images?08:13
agresorCs5, u can burn cd image on dvd..08:14
agresorif u wanna it :p08:14
cs5oh08:14
cs5i have tried with other iso's and have not been successful as it is an iso for a certain size08:14
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cs5ill try it though08:14
sx66where do I find power management properties for laptops? I have installed power management, and laptop battery from the add/remove, but I can not find where it has been located in the menus08:14
K-RyanOkay, I'm back08:15
agresorK-Ryan,  wb08:15
K-RyanThank you =)08:15
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agresorK-Ryan,  do u know how to manange some starup applications ?08:15
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agresorhow to put to be start at boot...08:15
agresoretc..08:15
Admiral_Chicagoagresor: ~/.kde/Autostart08:15
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Admiral_Chicagoerr, that would be at log in time08:15
K-RyanWell there ya' go08:15
K-RyanYeah I think he means at login08:16
agresor :p08:16
agresorI need at boot..08:16
sx66K-Ryan: where do I find power management properties for laptops? I have installed power management, and laptop battery from the add/remove, but I can not find where it has been located in the menus08:16
agresorFOr example i have using my pc like Dedicated Server08:16
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agresornow lots of users use some same process..08:16
agresori want when pc reboot08:16
agresorthat aggain start same proces08:16
Admiral_Chicagoagresor: you are looking for the startup services, not sure how to do that.08:16
K-RyanI don't know if you can do that at boot...08:16
agresor:(08:16
agresorstartup-tasks - definitions of essential tasks to run on startup08:17
Admiral_Chicagoi think you can, just not sure how08:17
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K-Ryansx66: Sorry I'm on a desktop and have only done minor work with a laptop. Not sure about your battery program.08:17
Admiral_Chicagosx66: might be in kicker08:17
nnoeonn!ati08:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:18
sx66Admiral_Chicago: where is kicker?08:18
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Admiral_Chicagosx66: that is your panel, its the thing with the kmenu08:18
yotuxCan anyone offer some help with using Rsync to sync my kmail folders08:18
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MarcCsx66: do you have klaptop installed?08:20
sx66where would I find that? MarcC08:20
MarcCsx66: sudo apt-get install klaptop08:20
MarcCor if you think you have it, KMenu -> Run Command -> klaptop08:20
BluesKajnnoeonn, there you are ..I was called away for 20mins or so08:20
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sx66can not find it.08:20
MarcCk, hold on08:22
MarcCtried searching adept?08:22
sx66I am hold on08:22
MarcCah, it's klaptopdaemon08:23
MarcCsudo apt-get install klaptopdaemon08:23
sx66lol08:23
MarcCthen type "klaptopdaemon" to start it08:23
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MarcClol?08:24
whippywhats the klaptopddaemon?08:24
sx66MarcC: could not find get lock ubable to loac the admin directory08:24
whippyin which repository  ;) bigfunnysmileon08:25
K-Ryan!info klaptopdaemon08:25
MarcCwhippy: it's for managing power and stuff for laptops08:25
sx66E:08:25
ubotuklaptopdaemon: battery monitoring and management for laptops using KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 250 kB, installed size 932 kB08:25
whippyokay08:25
MarcCit's like power manager08:25
K-RyanWell there's the problem08:25
sx66what problem?08:25
K-RyanHave you opened your repos?08:26
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whippyohhh....08:26
BluesKajsx66, sudo dpkg --configure -a08:26
K-RyanUniverse to be exact08:26
whippythere is really a klaptopdeamon,08:26
MarcCsx66: that can mean you already have adept or synaptic open08:26
whippyi didnt knew08:26
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sx66oh08:26
whippyapt-cache search succeeded ;)08:26
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MarcCyou don't really need klaptopdaemon if you already have power manager running, but if you don't have either one...might as well try klaptopdaemon :)08:27
whippyor if you use a tower hihi08:27
whippy;)08:27
whippyonly joking...08:27
whippy;) x'cuse08:27
whippynor u use a power off system for towers, than perhaps...08:28
sx66yeah, i need to config the backlight, and cpu settings, and screen shut down to blank...where do I find that?08:28
MarcCklaptopdaemon or power manager08:29
MarcCit'll show up in the system tray after you start either one08:29
MarcCif power manager, just click on the battery icon08:29
MarcCif klaptopdaemon, right click08:29
sx66where is the power manager? I see the baattery icon, but it does not config the backlight and sleep timer etc.08:29
MarcCis it a green icon with a lightning bolt?08:30
MarcCor just a green icon?08:30
MarcC(lightning bolt means it's charging)08:30
sx66ah, yes, I see it, it does not have a menu to control the backlight to off on a timer setting (ex. of 1 min)08:30
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MarcCsx66: if it's the green icon, that's power manager - it doesn't have as many settings as klaptopdaemon08:31
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sx66k08:31
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fenrighi08:31
binkshow can i reset kaffeine to its default video setting from c/l08:31
fenrigwhat is the location of fstab08:31
sx66I am going to restart. hold on08:31
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MarcClol, you don't need to restart :/08:31
MarcCwhy does everybody restart so much?08:32
nnoeonnAAAARRRRGGGHHH *rips his head off*08:32
nnoeonnI dont get it :S:S08:32
fenrigMarcC because people hope for miracles08:32
binksMarcC: windows habbits08:32
MarcCbinks: I guess you're right :D08:32
BluesKajnnoeonn,  are you trying to play games08:32
BluesKaj?08:32
fenrighi what is the location of fstab?08:32
MarcCetc/fstab?08:33
nnoeonnBlueskaj: no xD Trying to watch a bloody avi... :(08:33
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MarcCnnoeonn: which software?08:33
BluesKajwhat player?08:33
binksits a core lesson on any m/s course - how to nack your machine quickly with the aide of repeated restarts08:33
nnoeonnvlc..08:33
nnoeonnbut it laggs... :'(:'(08:33
MarcCbinks: lol08:33
MarcCnnoeonn: could be the file...tried it in mplayer or kaffeine?08:34
BluesKajnnoeonn, maybe the avi is faulty , try another08:34
nnoeonnthe thing is that everything that has with graphichs to do laggs... :(08:34
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nnoeonnExept the a test i did, there i got 250 fps O.o08:34
binksextra codecs and xine maybe08:34
MarcCbinks: two Windows habits that new Linux users seem to have: restart and reformat08:34
Ze_Mis there a more recent release than feisty?08:34
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binksZe_M: why08:35
nnoeonnZe_M: No dont think so08:35
theRealballchalkwhat utility is there to uncompress rar files with r01 to r43?08:35
MarcCnnoeonn: 250 fps is not that great...which drivers are you using for your graphics card?08:35
MarcC(assuming you meant glxgears fps)08:35
nnoeonnx~somthing08:35
Ze_Mnnoeonn: whats gutsy?08:35
MarcCnnoeonn: graphics card make/model?08:35
binksZe_M: unstable but newer08:35
BluesKajMarcC, that is about as good as his card will do08:35
nnoeonnradeon x30008:35
MarcCoh :D08:35
eagles0513875what bout it nnoeonn08:35
eagles0513875u trying to get open gl working08:35
Ze_Mfrom where can idownload gutsy install cd?08:35
nnoeonnsomething like that08:36
Daisuke_Ido(averaging 4600fps right now)08:36
nnoeonnze_M: what do u mean "gutsy"?08:36
eagles0513875i have a perfect link for ya nnoeonn08:36
eagles0513875give me a min08:36
nnoeonnDaisuke_ido... xD08:36
binksZe_M:  you need to be in #ubuntu+08:36
MarcCDaisuke_Ido: 4600? wow08:36
nnoeonneagle, anything right now xD08:36
MarcCwhat's your setup?08:36
Admiral_Chicago#ubuntu+108:36
whippy@theRealballchalk... wait08:36
whippyim searching ;)08:36
Ze_Mnnoeonn: read http://www.kubuntu.org/08:37
nnoeonnBecause if i wont get it to work soon, im goin to windows08:37
whippyark?08:37
Ze_Many real kubuntu supporter here?08:37
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nnoeonnZe_M, Ive tried, belive me, i've tried08:37
Admiral_ChicagoZe_M: cdimages.ubuntu.com08:37
BluesKajMarcC, what card?08:37
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nnoeonnGotta be one of the new geforce08:37
MarcCBluesKaj: nvidia geforce go 7300 or something like that08:37
Ze_Madmincca: thanks08:38
MarcC256MB08:38
eagles0513875http://mail.google.com/mail/?auth=DQAAAHkAAABmpro6zJl_Xq_88ugOJMKHDRWHiR4KAstDE5nYnZJp_p9M_pxi77uG8y8qm1EXgRa8M447Jiz0cHWuPPdF52rmQ-MI_K_U3q404mN6VRa3nJ9xeLQvLrFoCLdcck8I_HvlMyLlIwsORhreQVtjj8Jv57769eGl37B1RdvmeE0o9w08:38
eagles0513875there not that08:38
Ze_MAdmiral_Chicago: thanks08:38
MarcCit's the dell 1505N08:38
eagles0513875http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide08:38
fenrighi where can i find a standard fstab?08:38
eagles0513875there u go nnoeonn08:38
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eagles0513875what u mean fenrig08:38
nnoeonnIll try that eagle08:38
eagles0513875u looking for the fstab on ur machine08:38
whippy@fenrig ? standard fstab?08:38
whippyfstab does mount devices, you gonna have.08:38
eagles0513875take a look at /etc/fstab08:38
whippydepends on your system08:38
whippynormally there is a standard on your system08:39
whippyyou can add devices08:39
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whippyyou would need08:39
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fenrigi need to see a cdrom/dvd mount entry in fstab of someone else who doesnt have any problems with his device08:39
ardchoilleeagles0513875: mail.google.com requires login08:39
BluesKajeagles0513875, he's already got 3D and DRI ...I think he needs codecs08:39
ircN_userI'we just installed Kubuntu on my computer, I installed it and then i got the message to reboot. I did that, but then, windows XP opend up. I went to the meny to choose between XP and Linux, but on the list was it onlu Windows XP that stood.08:39
eagles0513875not that link08:39
ardchoille!codecs08:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:39
ircN_userSome idea?08:39
eagles0513875im going to work on my website so i can just link people to the site instead08:40
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ircN_userI'we just installed Kubuntu on my computer, I installed it and then i got the message to reboot. I did that, but then, windows XP opend up. I went to the meny to choose between XP and Linux, but on the list was it onlu Windows XP that stood.08:40
Admiral_ChicagoircN_user: odd, do you only have one HD?08:40
BluesKajnnoeonn , have you tried install lixine-extracodecs and libdvdcss2 ?08:40
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BluesKajlibxine-extracodecs, nnoeonn08:41
fenrig!fstab08:41
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:41
ardchoille!libdvdcss08:41
ircN_userAdmiral_Chicago - No 3 different, one with xp, one with linux and one with movies08:41
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:41
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sx66okay, I can not find the 'turn of screen' menu for power management (ex. 1 min if now used)...in kpower or the green battery.08:41
nnoeonnBlueskaj: no, but that's not my real problem, or atleast i dont think so08:41
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jlundircN_user: When you say you chose Linux from the menu was it a Grub menu?08:44
fenrigwill the changes to fstab take effect without a restart08:44
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ircN_userI didn choose linux, linux didnt stand there08:44
ircN_userJust Windows XP08:44
CarinArrfenrig: sudo mount -a08:44
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CarinArrfenrig: and it will update to whatever is in /etc/fstab08:44
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binkshow can i remove an app and its config file08:45
nico_hello anybody knows how to get the driver for a webcam logitech08:45
K-Ryansudo apt-get remove <package> --purge08:45
fenrigi can't umount the cd drive08:45
fenrigwhats this?08:45
fenrigit needs root administartions08:45
K-RyanThat's for binks08:45
fenrigor something, how can i fix this?08:45
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binksK-Ryan: cheers08:46
K-Ryan;)08:46
K-Ryanfenrig08:46
K-Ryansudo umount /dev/<device name>08:46
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ircN_userHm08:46
K-Ryan!webcam08:46
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras08:46
K-RyanTry your luck there nico_08:46
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nnoeonnok, i'm getting sick of this xD I have no idea of what i've installed, or anything, i'm reinstalling O.o08:47
fenrigk-ryan: i want linux to do this automatically not by hand08:47
K-RyanDo it when?08:47
nico_ Works fine out of the box.... not for me.....08:47
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MarcCwhen in doubt, just reinstall everything :P08:48
K-Ryannico_ Look around the first link then, if there's nothing there stick around in the channel until someone can help08:48
MarcCI guess if it feels good...08:48
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Ze_MAdmiral_Chicago: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ its the most recent?08:48
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nico_my webcam is seen but when i launch camorama , "could not connect  to video device"08:49
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nico_i want to smash my camera ^^ ....08:51
jlundircN_user: It doesn't sound like Grub installed onto your primary hard drive. Your setup with three different hard drives is a little unconventional. You can choose in your BIOS to boot to your Linux hard drive and once there you can install GRUB onto your primary drive that currently has XP.08:51
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cs5anyone know what package i would need to access and use an external usb burner?08:53
jlundcs5: K3b doesn't just see it?08:53
cs5lol, yes. nevermind....lol. I didn't have it in any lists anywhere and assumed the worst, its there, ty08:54
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ax1shi08:55
cs5jlund do you know if i can burn cd iso to dvd disk? I was told earlier it would work and ive only tried in windows and it doesnt work there.08:55
K-Ryancs5: Should be able to08:56
cs5ok, ty08:56
K-RyanI mean, I think so anyway08:56
fenrighow do i create a symlink in kde?08:56
ax1sicons.. home come os-k icon set isn't working for me08:57
ax1s:(08:57
ax1ssome of the icons changed ...08:57
Admiral_ChicagoZe_M: yes08:57
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cs5ill try it, only a small waste of time if it doesnt work. id rather download 700 mb than 4 gb08:57
jlundcs5: Yes you can. In K3b just choose Burn DVD ISO from the Tools menu and then select the CD ISO. It works and I know because I burned my Kubuntu install disc to a DVD-R because I was out of CDs.08:57
ax1ssome icons not completely free? ubuntu didn't install support? do i need qt ?08:57
cs5awesome ty Jlund08:57
cs5ty all08:57
fenrighow do i create a symlink08:58
vzduchinteresting..08:58
jlundYou're welcome08:58
vzduchfenrig: ln -s <theFileYouWantToLink> <nameOfSymlink>08:58
ax1si'm almost completely satisfied with my setup08:58
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ax1sjust the icons ...08:58
fenriga symlink is aso for folders right?08:58
ax1show come when i added the theme, all the folders didn't change to the new default.. ahhhhh08:59
jlundfenrig: The syntax for symlinks is similar to that of cp in that you are taking something that already exists and copying it to a new location. So it is ln -s <FileToLink> <WhereYouWantLinkToGo>08:59
jlundfenrig: Yes08:59
jlundvzduch: You beat me!08:59
ax1sis kde-look the only place to get icon sets for kde09:00
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BluesKajax1s, you can also change icon in it's properties dialog09:01
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ax1sOkay.. but say I want all of _these_ type to look like _this_09:02
ax1slike some of them show up in the icon find box, but when i select them they don't let me change!09:02
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clayganyone played mugen on nix? looking for a copy and see nothing but linx about how it has a dos, linux version and finally a windows version, of coarse can't find the linux version anywhere and rather have native than a wine'd ver.09:03
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ax1sclayg: did you try to wine it?09:04
ax1sThe engine was originally released in July 17, 1999. Beta versions of it were made to work on DOS, Linux and Windows platforms, distributed through their website or to donators via email. With the release of the Linux version, support for DOS ceased.09:05
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claygI did not try to wine it, I am trying to find a native version but will if i must09:06
claygnothing against wine at all, in fact it plays wow better than xp on the same system (no clue how since it's "emulated")09:06
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ax1sclayg: found it09:08
ax1sclayg: http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/hosted/misc/mugen-2002-04-14.tar.bz209:09
ax1sfound it on http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/09:09
claygaxls09:10
claygyou are the man09:10
ax1s:D09:10
clayghow did you reference it?09:10
ax1suhmm09:10
claygi tried "ubuntu mugun" "linux mugun" even searched slashdot09:10
ax1smugen download linux09:10
ax1sat the very bottom09:10
clayg /palmslapsforehead09:10
ax1s;D09:10
ax1sGooGle-Fu09:10
claygthanks,09:10
clayghey you ever mess with mame?09:11
ax1sglad i could assist hahahaha09:11
ax1snah09:11
ax1snot yet anyway ;] 09:11
ax1swas thinking about making an actual arcade machine09:11
ax1swith switchable os09:11
claygyeah i need to break my mmo addiction lol09:11
claygoh damn09:11
claygthat would be sweet09:11
ax1sman09:11
claygprobally cheap to09:11
ax1sso easy now09:11
ax1sjust get a regular cheap table09:11
claygget a broke arcade game use it as a frame09:11
ax1scut out a spot for screen09:11
ax1syah09:11
ax1sthat09:11
ax1sanything09:11
ax1si wanna make like09:11
ax1sthe old pacman09:12
ax1stable09:12
ax1swhere each turn it reverses screen ;D09:12
ax1syou seen those09:12
claygno09:12
ax1shttp://www.staramusement.com/images/mspacblu.gif09:12
ax1simage that packed with every emulator ever09:12
ax1shahahahha09:12
ax1sinstead of that joystick tho09:13
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Admiral_Chicagothis is offtopic, please see #kubuntu-offtopic09:13
claygyeah dude i have see that09:13
geniiAdmiral_Chicago: Thanks09:13
claygok taking it ooc09:13
K-Ryanooc?09:13
claygout of channel09:13
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K-RyanGotcha09:13
ax1shahahah i don't see anyone talking about anything else09:13
clayglol09:14
ax1sanywhoo that's about it09:14
ax1ssweet lil table09:14
ax1sscreen flips each turn09:14
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ubuntu_hi there09:14
ubuntu_i'm testing kubuntu atm09:14
ax1snice09:14
ax1sit works!09:14
ax1s;P09:14
K-RyanLike it?09:14
ubuntu_where can i get a 3d desktop?09:14
ubuntu_ya its kind of cool09:14
K-Ryan3D desktop as in what?09:15
ax1swhat vcard you got ... ati/nvidia/intel?09:15
ubuntu_nvidia09:15
ax1sdeal09:15
K-RyanBeryl kind of stuff?09:15
ax1syou want like the 3d effects stuff beryl09:15
ubuntu_xgf or what its called worked with mandriva09:15
ax1shttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu09:15
ax1shttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia09:15
K-RyanI don't know about setting it up on the live cd09:15
K-RyanBut I'm sure it can be done09:16
jhutchins_ltK-Ryan: Not gonna happen.09:16
K-RyanIt can't?09:16
ubuntu_wont work?09:16
ax1subuntu's testing out the install, not live cd i think09:16
ax1soh09:16
jhutchins_ltAt least highly impractical.09:16
ubuntu_mhhh09:16
K-RyanI think it can be done09:16
ax1scan you apt-get it09:16
ax1sso do i09:16
ax1soh09:16
ax1sit would be slow ass09:16
ubuntu_well then i need a opinion if it rocks09:16
ubuntu_and if its worth using it09:16
ax1subuntu: look at google video / youtube09:16
jhutchins_ltRemember with the live CD everything that's not on the CD has to be done in RAM, and you loose it every time you shut down.09:17
K-RyanInstall Kubuntu and get Beryl =)09:17
ax1sI'm wondering about Project Looking Glass w/ Beryl09:17
ubuntu_i think i will :D09:17
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ubuntu_is there any chance to run windows "under" kubuntu09:17
ubuntu_i need it for my pda09:17
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu_: virtualization09:17
ax1subuntu: yes but without 3d fx09:17
ubuntu_:/09:17
ax1snot directx09:17
ax1sno*09:17
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jhutchins_ltwine/cedega/crossover-office will run some windows programs09:17
ubuntu_thats not needed :D09:17
ax1subuntu: vmware, was 5,000 grand09:18
ax1snow free09:18
ubuntu_no emulator for a whole windows?!09:18
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K-RyanWhoa whoa whoa09:18
jhutchins_ltThere are several VM systems, but no, no full emulation.  Microsoft would have a cow.09:18
K-Ryan5 G's?09:18
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ax1sk-ryan: it was, back in the day09:18
K-RyanWow09:18
ax1sfor 1 person licence09:18
ax1shttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html09:19
ax1sthe "player" was free09:19
ubuntu_mandriva says they got one?09:19
ubuntu_wait i will search for a link09:19
ax1swell there is a completely free one.. called Nex09:19
ax1sor something09:19
ax1sXEN09:19
ax1ssorry09:19
jhutchins_ltubuntu_: Besides, you can always dual boot if you want to run windows games or something.09:20
ax1salthough i haven't been able to not play a game yet09:21
ax1slike09:21
jhutchins_lt`09:21
ax1si haven't tried many fps, but EVE Rev works09:21
ax1swhich should be all that matters ;] 09:21
ubuntu_http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/spring/explore09:21
BluesKajthis is offtopic , but important ..MPAA had a fake movie download site running linked to www.godaddy.com ...if you DL'd a movie it put spyware on your pc and reported back09:21
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ax1sChoose your technology:09:22
ax1s    *09:22
ax1s      VirtualBox09:22
ax1s    *09:22
ax1s      VMware09:22
ax1s    *09:22
ax1s      QtEmu09:22
K-RyanThat's interesting BluesKaj09:22
ubuntu_alle freeware?09:22
ax1subuntu: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads09:22
ax1syup09:22
ax1sthere's a ubuntu install right there with the downloads09:23
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ax1subuntu is the best thing since sliced bread09:23
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ax1s"debian" done right09:23
BluesKajhehe, what's so great about sliced bread :)09:23
ax1si used mandriva when it was mandrake09:23
ax1sblue: i can spread nutella on it ;] 09:23
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ax1simagine what i can spread onto kubuntu09:24
ax1s;D09:24
BluesKajwaaaay better than sliced bread09:24
ubuntu_cool thing09:24
ax1suhm09:24
ax1subuntu if you're not sold09:24
ax1ssec09:24
ubuntu_i think i found my distribution :D09:24
ax1si fill find you awesome vid09:24
ubuntu_awesome09:24
BluesKajyeah , tried mandriva ...crappy hardware recognition09:24
ax1sokhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak09:24
ax1ser09:24
ax1shttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak09:24
ax1swatch what he does to the video of lost09:25
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ubuntu_konquerer flash compatible?09:25
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ax1si use firefox, but yah09:25
ax1skonqueror for the file browser09:25
ax1slike exploere is both kinda09:26
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BluesKajkonqueror is ok for browsing where IE is required09:26
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: Actually, mandriva has handled my hardware better than *buntu, that' s one reason I have it on this box.09:26
ax1sBluesKaj: Really, how so?09:26
BluesKajvery few sites , but some still exist09:26
jhutchins_ltI've also been running it more than *buntu, so I'm more familiar with it.09:26
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: What version and hardware did you have trouble with?09:26
ax1sjhutchins:  i should ask you the same, sir!09:27
ax1s=] 09:27
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runpain2thank kr it did it with the supergrubdisk09:27
ax1swhat hardware issues did you have with buntu09:27
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K-RyanOh that did work?09:27
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K-RyanGlad to hear!09:27
kharlosshi there .09:27
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K-RyanHi kharloss09:27
jhutchins_ltEdgy and Feisty on a Thinkpad with three different net adapters, and Feisty on a Toshiba with two.09:27
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ax1sjhutchins_lt: External devices?09:28
jhutchins_ltI also haven't seen the sound problems with Mandriva that we see here.09:28
ax1shrm.09:28
ax1si thought my exitgy worked right out of the box09:28
ax1sand all creative cards09:28
jhutchins_ltax1s: Some people have trouble.09:29
runpain2Kr it is a mirical ;D09:29
ax1sOHHH right09:29
ax1scause of alsactl09:29
jhutchins_ltax1s: There's a chronic problem with the SPDIF output being the default.09:29
ax1sright09:29
BluesKajjhutchins , was looking ..it's the Mandriva Powerpack 2006 i 58609:29
runpain2where you from KR09:29
ax1sjhutch: easy fix ;] 09:29
ax1si agree, should be implemented09:29
ax1sif they can mess with kcontrol so badly, they can change that.. ahahha09:30
jhutchins_ltI don't mean to knock *buntu, but my current impression is that some hardware is kinda chancy in *buntu right now, wireless and sound especially.09:30
K-RyanNew York09:30
ubuntu_do u use any icq clients?09:30
ubuntu_on win i liked miranda09:30
jhutchins_ltSeem to be some things that sometimes work, sometimes don't.09:30
runpain2I was Born in Rochester09:30
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K-RyanLong Islander here09:30
ax1sjhutchins_lt:  I didn't realize mandriva cured proprietary drive issues?09:30
runpain2Grewup in SE Florida09:30
ax1sdriver*09:30
jhutchins_ltax1s: Not claiming they did.09:30
ax1s*double checks HW support09:30
runpain2Live in East Texas now 8 years09:31
ax1shey, maybe they do just support more09:31
ubuntu_finally youtube vid is loading :D09:31
jhutchins_ltMy 2007.1 is pretty solid.09:31
runpain2Dam Yankee i am09:31
K-Ryan=)09:31
runpain2:P09:31
ax1subuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak09:31
ubuntu_guess where iam from ;)09:31
K-RyanSo, new to Linux I guess runpain2?09:31
runpain2whats the diffrance from a Yankee and a dam Yankee KR09:32
K-Ryanubuntu_: It would be pointless in guessing, we get people in here from all over the world.09:32
ubuntu_:D09:32
jhutchins_ltThen again, no real complaints about my Feisty box, had sound issues but I fixed 'em.09:32
runpain2yes a green horn 1 year09:32
ax1si'm from canada, mang09:32
ubuntu_germany09:32
K-RyanAh, you beat me by a little bit runpain2 =P09:32
K-RyanGermany eh?09:32
glasstwondering if someone has been able to have kubuntu or any other distro mount and write to internal sd card; have heard this is hard and not found a way to get this done; using live cd with hp laptop09:32
BluesKajax1s, same here ...where in canucksville are you ?09:32
runpain2a yankee comes and visets and dam yankee stays09:32
K-Ryan=P09:33
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ax1sglasst: your internal sd card reader isn't working? what model  HP09:33
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ubuntu_glasst if you got a clue query me :D09:33
runpain2O_o09:33
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ax1sBluesKaj: HAMILTON09:33
ax1slol09:33
ubuntu_but i dont got a hp09:33
jhutchins_ltOh yeah, and plug-and-play USB on 'buntu.09:33
ak007hi09:33
jhutchins_lt... and mounting devices root-only.09:33
K-RyanHi there ak00709:34
ax1sglasst: the internal sd card works on my laptop09:34
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glasstax1s; its compaq nc 600009:34
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jhutchins_ltHeh.  Barbers on irc.09:34
ax1sglasst: Sec.09:34
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BluesKajaha ax1s, my daughter attended Mac ...Espanola ON here09:34
runpain2yup here and there09:34
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ubuntu_this youtube vid is it beryl?09:35
runpain2im on #jesus too09:35
K-Ryanrunpain2: Go to youtube and punch in beryl, click the first video09:35
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glasstax1s; did you have to  do anything to get the card to work09:35
BluesKajjhutchins_lt, well someone has to our hair ...whay little of it i have left even :)09:36
ax1sglasst: : check this first http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=263532109:36
BluesKajcut09:36
ax1sglasst: no, hold on a sec i will find you a better link, but check that09:36
runpain2kk09:36
ax1sBluesKaj: They have Einsteins BRAIN at MAC.. BWAHAhaha09:37
K-RyanOh damn, I said runpain2, sorry09:37
K-RyanI meant ubuntu_ =)09:37
BluesKajax1s, just a small piece of it09:37
K-RyanThe whole "im on #jesus too" thing confused me there...09:37
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K-RyanSilly me =)09:37
runpain2cool any way09:37
K-RyanBeen around for a year and you don't have Beryl?09:38
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glasstax1s; ok will read both links09:38
giorgiociao09:39
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giorgiohi09:39
K-RyanHi giorgio09:39
giorgioi'm italian09:39
K-Ryan!italian09:39
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:39
BluesKajberyl ..bah humbug ...eyecandy for the shallow linux user :)09:39
giorgiook grazie09:39
K-RyanYou're welcome =)09:39
K-RyanBluesKaj: Some eyecandy here and there isn't bad09:40
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fdovingi was not a big fan of beryl, but compiz fusion is much better, i acually have it running for more than 4 days, without one crash.09:41
K-RyanSomeone said I should get that09:42
BluesKajyeah , just funnin' the window dressing crowd09:42
K-RyanThat "beryl" is old09:42
K-RyanBut since I'm on Fluxbox, well neither will do me any good09:42
ax1sglasst: looks like you are SOOL09:43
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K-Ryanof isn't part of the acronym ;)09:43
ax1sglasst: you can run windows inside vmware, then  have a portal folder going between the two os'09:43
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ax1sglasst: But other then that, you will have to join the waiting list for linux drivers for that SD reader09:44
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K-RyanHey do you think you could run Mac in Windows in Linux?09:44
ubuntu_is this a own network?09:44
K-RyanOr any combination like that09:44
ubuntu_i got a bnc at qnet09:44
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ubuntu_but i will need help at the startup09:44
ax1sK-Ryan: If you had enough power, sure .. but why not just run BSD with linux / windows / mac all in vmware ?09:44
ax1s:)09:44
fdovingubuntu_: this is the freenode network.09:44
ubuntu_shall i download the kubuntu dvd?09:44
K-Ryanax1s: Just bored and thought of it =P09:44
glasstax1s; so you are saying that the portal would allow access to the sd card on the windows side09:44
fdovingubuntu_: the cd is enough. you can install the extra programs from teh internet after the OS install if you want to.09:47
runpain2gona try beryl on my mepis 6.009:47
ubuntu_ah ok cool09:47
runpain2gota find out the specs though09:47
ubuntu_i would like to keep my windows alive. can i install kubuntu without any problems?09:47
K-RyanYup09:47
K-RyanDual boot09:47
runpain2yup09:47
ubuntu_ya09:47
BluesKajis there a linux installer for VMware ?09:48
K-RyanIt's what I do09:48
runpain2metoo kr09:48
runpain2on my lap top and desktop09:48
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: Huh?  Lots of people running linux in vmware (and vmware in linux).09:48
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ax1s_I disconnected :(09:49
BluesKajall i get is VMware .exe that tries to install under wine and then it fails09:49
ax1s_ubuntu_: did you check that looking glass video?09:49
K-RyanPeople running linux in vmware in linux?09:49
ax1s_BluesKaj: Sec09:49
ubuntu_ya its great09:49
ubuntu_is this beryl?09:49
ax1s_i run vmware to test out different linux distributions09:49
lebieshey all, can someone pls help me get compiz running on kubuntu feisty. error running script is "Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support" ?09:49
ax1s_well different os's altogether09:49
ax1s_lebies: ATI ?09:49
marko_how do i load subtitles in kaffeine?09:49
jhutchinsK-Ryan: Yeah, well, you could run say Fedora under Debian that way.09:50
lebiesi think i have everything else (drivers etc) running properly09:50
K-Ryanlebies: You'll be able to get better help in #ubuntu-effects09:50
lebiesyep09:50
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marko_please help:/09:50
K-Ryanjhutchins: I'm just teasing =P09:50
jhutchinsBluesKaj: #vmware09:50
K-Ryanmarko_: We can't help if we don't know the problem09:50
K-RyanOh, nevermind09:50
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marko_lol:>09:50
ax1s_BluesKaj: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto09:50
lebiesax1s_: yes, X195009:50
marko_well09:50
marko_do you know ?09:50
ubuntu_ax1s is the youtube video showing beryl?09:50
K-Ryansubtitles in kaffeine? No idea09:50
K-Ryan!subtitles09:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subtitles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:50
ax1s_lebies:  uhm, do you know if you have directx working?  glxinfo | grep direct09:51
K-Ryan!kaffeine09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
K-Ryan!info kaffeine09:51
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB09:51
marko_oh ok then:>09:51
lebiesK-Ryan: [blush :( thats where i thought i type  - hehe09:51
K-Ryanmarko_ Stick around, someone might know09:51
K-Ryanlebies: It's ok, just letting you know09:51
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jhutchinsmarko_: mplayer and vlc just work.  Kaffeine?  Maybe, maybe not.09:51
MrLeavy17sup09:51
MrLeavy17http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=hai2u <-- Make a quick $6 on your paypal account09:51
marko_jhutchins, i know cause there are options for subtitles in kaffeine09:52
ax1s_marko_:09:52
ax1s_9. Can i play my avi files with a external subtitle file?09:52
ax1s_Yes. Subtitle files with sub, smi, srt, asc, ssa or txt extensions will be autoloaded. Use the playlist context-menu to add files manually. During playback you can change the used file in the Player|Subtitles-menu.09:52
marko_but i can't find the option09:52
marko_to load subtitles09:52
K-RyanToo bad I don't have a paypal account =(09:52
jhutchinspaypal is evil.09:52
K-Ryan?09:52
ubuntu_ax1s_ is the youtube video showing beryl?09:53
runpain2What live cd has Beryl 0.2.1 on it09:53
ax1s_marko_:  Do they not auto load if they are in the same folder as the movie file?09:53
jhutchinsYou have to give them total access to your bank account, username and password.09:53
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marko_no09:53
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marko_then another question09:53
marko_how do i delay subtitles in09:53
marko_vlc?09:53
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blubbyblubhello09:53
runpain2does any one know09:53
blubbyblubhow can i watch dvb-s on ubuntu?09:53
K-Ryanrunpain2: I don't think any do because using it requires setting up your graphics card.09:53
blubbyblubbetter kubuntu09:53
K-Ryan!dvd09:53
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs09:53
K-RyanStart there =P09:53
jhutchinsrunpain2: Beryl was not stable enough when the live CD's were produced, nor would it probably fit on one.  Not sure it's stable enough now.09:54
blubbyblubhi k-ryan09:54
runpain2ohohoh09:54
blubbyblubis it possible to view a dvb-s stream on kubuntu09:54
ubuntu_is there a taskmanager at kubuntu like at windows?09:54
blubbyblub@ ubuntu09:54
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blubbyblubps -aux09:54
glasstax1s_; did you find other link or can you suggest where i might look; was it in forum of ubuntu09:54
jhutchinsubuntu_: Ctrl-Esc09:54
runpain2some said on a mepis fourm there is one09:54
blubbyblub| grep ""09:54
dalehello09:54
blubbyblubhi jhutchins09:55
ax1s_glasst: I did, you are SOOL. your hardware is not supported in linux yet. there is a waiting list for ppl trying to get the code released09:55
ax1s_glasst: that initial link COULD work tho09:55
blubbyblubis it possible to view dvb-s?09:55
runpain2DIGG does09:55
glasstax1s_; thanks09:55
ubuntu_thx for your help09:55
jhutchinsblubbyblub: What's a dvb-s?09:55
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blubbyblub..09:55
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blubbyblub@ jhutchins09:56
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blubbyblubdigital video broadcast satellit09:56
ax1s_marko_:  control-h and control-j09:56
blubbyblub?09:56
ubuntu_im installing beryl with adept manager09:56
runpain2Digg has Beryl on it09:56
ubuntu_am i able to use it with live cd?09:56
ax1s_marko_:  for more hotkey info go to  Settings/Preference/Hotkeys09:56
jhutchinsblubbyblub: Yes.09:56
ubuntu_or no way?09:56
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blubbyblubthanks,09:56
ax1s_marko_: You can also click on Advanced (bottom right) for more hotkeys09:56
blubbyblubbut my question was, if its possible to recieve09:57
blubbybluband watch09:57
jhutchinshttp://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_7746.html09:57
marko_thankls09:57
marko_bbl now09:57
blubbyblub,909:57
marko_gonna watch jay and silent bob xD09:57
blubbyblubwould be nice,09:57
jhutchinsblubbyblub: Requires hardware.09:57
blubbyblubif u would hepl me09:57
blubbyblub;)09:57
ax1s_marko_:  yuh09:57
blubbyblubthx,09:57
blubbyblubhardware is here09:57
blubbyblub;)09:57
blubbyblubhey comeone whippy speaks ;)09:57
runpain2err gota find the cd download for digg09:57
blubbyblub;)09:58
blubbyblubi got now fc-609:58
jhutchinsblubbyblub: mythTV apparently works with it, so does linuxVDR.09:58
blubbyblubgonna burn it tonight09:58
blubbybluband trying also RHLE09:58
blubbyblub;)09:58
ax1s_mmm myth tv09:58
ubuntu_how do i use beryl?09:58
ax1s_hahaha09:58
blubbyblubyo mean linvdr? tried to install it09:58
ubuntu_need to reboot? (live cd)09:58
ax1s_that is a good question09:58
blubbyblubbut it wasnt as fine...09:58
ax1s_ubuntu: if you reboot you lose what you installed09:59
blubbyblubgoing to search for mythtv09:59
jhutchinsubuntu_: If you have beryl working on a live CD you know more than we do.09:59
ax1s_blubbyblub: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=mythtv%20themes&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi09:59
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jhutchinsblubbyblub: mediabuntu might be helpful.09:59
ax1s_blubbyblub: what kinda dvb-s device do you have09:59
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Phoenixfeuerhi everyone10:00
ax1s_blubbyblub: make/model on your DVB-S card ?10:00
ax1s_hi Phoenixfeuer10:00
runpain2still looking for download10:01
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Phoenixfeuerdoes anyone have a binary of videolan 0.8.6c?10:01
ax1s_runpain2: of what10:01
runpain2Digg10:01
Phoenixfeuerdapper binary :)10:01
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Phoenixfeuerthe dapper one in the repos is quite old and does not support wmv9 (wmv3) playback10:01
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ax1s_Phoenixfeuer: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5_i386.deb&md5sum=20c3ac18c080365c21cbcf5adf1d6327&arch=i386&type=main10:02
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Phoenixfeuerdoes de debian package work out of the box?10:03
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blubbyblub_back...back10:03
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blubbyblub_back@j the staller is here10:03
blubbyblub_backit seems to be really complicated with myth10:04
blubbyblub_backgroup myth ?10:04
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blubbyblub_backhow should i make that?10:04
blubbyblub_backaddgroup?10:04
ax1s_Phoenixfeuer: Why do you need c?10:04
ax1s_Phoenixfeuer:  Oh10:04
ax1s_Phoenixfeuer: I don't see why you could just grab the new vlc deb10:05
blubbyblub_back@jhutchins....10:05
ax1s_and install it manually .. it should say if it will need something10:05
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blubbyblub_backi have only two groups in my list?10:05
blubbyblub_backshould i create a group myth?10:05
jhutchinsblubbyblub_back: No clue.  Don't have the hardware.  Try #mythtv-users (NOT #mythtv).10:05
Phoenixfeuerwell the latest binary avaiable for dapper seems to be 0.8.6a10:06
runpain2gota go sure was fun10:06
Phoenixfeuerthe edgy one won't work will it?10:06
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blubbyblub_back@jhutchins i know you are a professional...10:07
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blubbyblub_backbut do i really need a backend ;)10:07
blubbyblub_backhey10:07
blubbyblub_backcome on...10:07
blubbyblub_back;)10:07
blubbyblub_backoh my god10:07
Phoenixfeuersorry, im still fairly new to linux, otherwise I would've compiled the source myself :)10:07
binksit says on kaffeine site that the lastest build is 0.8.4 but feisty repo only has 0.8.3 but the kaffeine site says it should be 0.8.4 should i no of another repo10:07
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marko_i will freaking kill myself ok now here's the problem10:08
blubbyblub_backif you would give me pm acces ;)10:08
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ax1s_sec10:08
blubbyblub_backwould be right, ;)10:08
ax1s_sorry disconnected10:08
marko_in kaffeine i don't know how to load subtitles! in vlc when  i load them they are all big and stuff weird...! in mplayer i can't load the movie (it's in .avi format)10:08
marko_so what should i do?!:(10:08
ax1s_sorry disconnected10:08
amnesiac_phoenixfeuer what are you try 2 install??10:08
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marko_guys what should i do:/10:10
jhutchins:v kaffeine10:10
marko_what?10:10
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jhutchins!info kaffeine10:10
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB10:10
amnesiac_marko: install the gstreamer libs in adept gstreamer fluendo and demux and all the rest off the sh--t10:10
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marko_why should i do that?10:10
florianHello!10:10
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marko_does really no one know how to load the freaking subtitles in the fuck*ng kaffeine10:11
marko_i had no problems with kaffeine yet10:11
Phoenixfeueramnesiac_: I'm trying to install the latest videolan player10:11
marko_just don't know how to load subtitles10:11
Phoenixfeuer0.8.6c10:11
jhutchinsmarko_: I can't even get kaffeine to play regular audio/video.10:11
marko_i can10:11
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marko_i watched everything with it10:11
PhoenixfeuerI'm using dapper, therefore the latest one is of course not in the repositories10:11
jlundmarko_: hold on and I will try some things10:11
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jhutchinsPhoenixfeuer: Have you considered upgrading?10:11
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jhutchinsmarko_: You need kaffeine specific help, I suggest you try the mailing list or forums or whatever they have for kaffeine.10:12
marko_yeah but i want to watch the movie now.../10:12
Phoenixfeuerdont know about upgrading, last time I've tried doing a full upgrade from edgy to dapper my whole system broke10:12
amnesiac_phoenixfeuer myth will work with a kernel 2.6.18-2810:12
marko_jlund, ok10:12
jhutchins#kaffeine10:12
florianI am using kubuntu 7.10. .... I automatix2 already available for the ubuntu beta?10:12
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ax1smy wifi does not love me10:13
jhutchins!automatix10:13
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:13
jhutchinsflorian: 7.1 isn't beta any more.10:13
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amnesiac_ax1s love hurts is it?10:13
ax1s:)10:14
ax1sdreams of a/b/g ;] 10:14
amnesiac_what wifi ??? a1xs10:14
florianIf not, which repository should I use for adobe reader, macromedia10:14
Phoenixfeuermplayer works OK with the latest w32codecs but I'm in need of videolans streaming capabilities10:14
ax1samnesiac_:  just my shiddy lil netgear adapter flaking out .. everything else is gold..  wrt54gl/dd-wrt sp310:14
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jhutchinsflorian: try kpdf or xpdf10:15
ax1samnesiac_:  the ndiswrapper method worked nicer then the new built in .. :(   not sure how to unload it and do it the old way10:15
amnesiac_netgear is supported by madwifi is it? i can be wrong10:15
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ax1sand wait a sec..    BluesKaj: you want to play wmv9 ?  i play wmv9 all the time and i don't use any special version of vlc.. i use kaffeine10:15
amnesiac_mesg 2 ax1s10:15
jhutchinsndiswrapper, and it's broken in current kernels iirc.10:16
ax1samnesiac_: It's this netgear usb thing .. wg111v210:16
amnesiac_yes ax1s with a dongle right??$10:16
ax1swas workingm uch better with ndiswrapper and proprietary driver.. vs this built in rtl8187 or whatever driver10:16
BluesKajax1s, no thx , i use amarok , and rarely used wmp even when i ran windows10:17
Phoenixfeuerax1s: kaffeine probably hasn't got problems playing wmv9 files but then it cannot act as a streaming server for my home network can it?10:17
Phoenixfeuerotherwise i might consider switching :)10:17
ax1samnesiac_:  nah just the usb thing  http://213.186.44.139/netgear/fr/images/wireless/photos/wg111v2.jpg10:17
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jhutchinsPhoenixfeuer: I thought there was a way to stream mplayer...10:17
amnesiac_ah ok ax1s10:17
ax1sBluesKaj:  i use amarok too, i'm talking about video files, wmv9 HD10:18
ax1si heard amarok has video support? that would be uber nice10:18
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BluesKajok, well i run kaffeine for avi files10:18
jhutchinsax1s: Not that I've heard.10:18
amnesiac_gonna look 2 the link of ax1s 2 find help see ya later10:18
jlundmarko_: http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=faq#question910:19
Phoenixfeuerjhutchins: thing is, i need to stream to my xbox's xbox media center which itself uses a version of mplayer and plays the files out of sync10:19
ax1samnesiac_:  no worries, i've decided not to play nexuiz with wifi anymore ;D10:19
BluesKajax1s, vmware-install.pl: command not found... strange10:20
Phoenixfeuerby streaming them via vlc to my xbox should work because the latest version apparently supports wmv910:20
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ax1sPhoenixfeuer:  I play wmv9 HD codecs in kaffeine10:21
Phoenixfeueryeah i know but i need to stream wmv9 the way videolan does :)10:21
va170542test10:21
amnesiac_hahahha lol ax1s10:21
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ax1samnesiac_:  ? what it works .. mplayer is best10:21
ax1samnesiac_: vlc doesn't work for me at all10:21
va170542test from munic10:22
ax1sva170542: That is a confirm.10:22
Noldoaransudo isn't asking me for a password anymore, how do I chane it back?10:22
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Noldoarans/chane/change10:22
amnesiac_test succes va17054210:22
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amnesiac_i use vlc for gp3 and mov files10:23
ax1sNoldoaran: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_disable_root_user_account10:23
jlundNoldoaran: This is normal. There is a 15 minute window where commands as sudo will not prompt for a password. It would be annoying if you had to type it every single time.10:23
amnesiac_kaffeine i use for avi and mpeg10:23
florianjhutchins: did I miss anything? 7.10 (gutsy) is beta ... isn't ist?10:23
Phoenixfeuerso can kaffeine stream then?10:23
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ax1samnesiac_:  i use kaffeine for everything except the few wmv9 that need mplayer10:23
jhutchinsflorian: Not for several months now.10:23
jhutchinsflorian: Oh, wait....10:23
Noldoaranjlund: no it's not asking me the first time, it's been this way for a few days10:23
Phoenixfeueryou guys actually are confusing me :)10:23
jhutchinsflorian: Yeah, 7.1 is gutsy, is beta.  Feisty's what, 7.04?10:24
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jlundNoldoaran: When did it start?10:24
Noldoarandon't remember10:24
amnesiac_i cant get the wmv9 sh--it going on run with the kaffeine10:24
jlundNoldoaran: You can't think of any programs that you installed?10:24
ax1sgutsy gibbo is 7.1010:24
amnesiac_wich c0dec i need??10:24
jhutchins!mp3 > amnesiac_10:25
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Noldoaranbbs10:25
ax1samnesiac_:  uhmm.. actually i lied.. everything but wmv9 works in kaffeine..  mplayer for wmv910:25
ax1sbut i had to select different codec family to handle wmv9 properly10:25
ax1sVLC/Preferences/Codecs   then select win32 video10:25
ax1syou can leave audio10:25
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ax1ser10:26
ax1sMPLAYER/preference/codecs10:26
ax1sUHG10:26
ax1s<-- Tired .. muh bad10:26
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jlundNoldoaran: What was the full package name for "bbs"10:26
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ax1si'm lovin the wmv9 samples, need more!! .. also a couple HD trailers... mmm 1080p10:26
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t_maushi guys10:26
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florianI use kubuntu (7.10) how could I install all ubuntu stuff? (gnome desktop and all apps, that came with a normal ubuntu istallation?10:27
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ax1sflorian: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:27
florianax1s: thanks ...10:27
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t_mausdoes ANYBODY know a very good streaming server10:27
sylvisj what should I use as a FS when trying to mount a fat32 drive?10:28
ax1st_maus: for audio gnump3d , for video.. not sure10:28
t_mausim searching for a video streamer10:28
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amnesiac_cybergods amnesiac is going to work ,,,al ya hackers and whizkids you have my blessings10:28
ax1st_maus: I got gnump3d to stream videos over LAN fine, but over the net is another story.. didn't figure out transcoding ;] 10:28
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amnesiac_hahahahaha lol10:28
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ax1slol10:28
t_mausLAN is very goood10:28
ax1samnesiac_: masalik muh brotha10:28
t_mauswhich codecs did it support10:29
ax1st_mause sudo apt-get install gnump3d10:29
amnesiac_see ya10:29
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Phoenixfeuerhmm gnump3d?10:29
t_maussi10:29
ax1smmmnmnmn gnump3d10:29
t_mausmpeg4 ? mov10:29
Phoenixfeuerdoes it support wmv9?10:29
Phoenixfeuer:)10:29
t_mausi need it also for windows pcs10:29
ax1sworks on all versions: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/28/how-to-setup-gnump3d-for-a-streaming-media-server-ubuntu-510-6061-610/10:30
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ax1sPhoenixfeuer: Will stream whatever MIME type you specify10:30
ax1sPhoenixfeuer: Up to the stream receiver to have a proper codec10:30
Phoenixfeuerwhich streaming protocol does it use?10:30
ax1sPhoenixfeuer: like.. raw10:30
ax1sPhoenixfeuer: You enable the mime type, and ..  i dunno.. *checks10:30
Phoenixfeuerok10:30
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ax1sokayi can't find a reference, but i remember how to sorta, sec10:32
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boxmanhey everybody10:33
Noldoaranjlund: sorry, I'm back. I installed a kernel that I compiled, then removed it because it didn't work..10:34
ax1sPhoenixfeuer: http://n1nj4.dnsdojo.org/mime.types10:34
Phoenixfeuerk cool10:34
ax1slook at the bottom of the list.. it does more then a/v10:34
t_mauswhat is with helix streaming server10:34
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ax1st_maus: realmedia garbagio10:35
t_mausbut it is not bad10:35
ax1st_maus: Helix is opensource real media10:35
ax1soh10:35
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ax1st_maus: does it transcode?10:35
t_mausthink so10:35
ax1salso10:35
ax1s30 days free trial10:35
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t_maus2 options10:35
ax1soh, simple 5-stream free10:36
ax1snice10:36
t_maus1. free version 2. buisens version10:36
eagles0513875what u trying to transcode10:36
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t_mausright10:36
Noldoaranwhere is the sudoers file?10:36
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eagles0513875u mean something from mp3 to flac for instance10:36
ax1st_maus: I'm downloading it right now to play with ;] 10:36
ax1sNoldoaran: didn't i already give you a fix10:36
t_maus"/etc/sudoers10:36
eagles0513875ax1s: also for transcoding try soundkonverter10:36
ax1sNoldoaran: sudo passwd -l root10:37
ax1seagles0513875:  transcoding video10:37
Noldoaranok10:37
vzducht_maus: tried VLS?10:37
eagles0513875AHHHHHHHH sry for caps10:37
eagles0513875i remember finding something10:37
eagles0513875to convert stuff to avis10:37
ax1snah,  we wanna stream any type of avi10:37
t_mausexactly10:38
ax1sand set the encoding on it so it's playable over our 1mbit up connection10:38
ax1svideo i should say10:38
ax1sthis helix server could be interesting10:38
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ax1si mean, i've hated real media for ever, but if they let me broadcast my own stuff10:38
vzduch!info idjc10:39
ubotuidjc: graphical shoutcast/icecast client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.9-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 409 kB, installed size 1164 kB10:39
ax1swith  a  user browsable playlist.. that would be awesome10:39
ax1svzduch:  this will transcode video/10:39
BluesKajbah, vmware won't run or install..too many patches and screwups...it's not worth the trouble10:39
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vzduchax1s: I guess not.. I was looking for something for audio streaming10:39
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ax1sBluesKaj:  joint channle BluesKaj10:39
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ax1sBluesKaj: I can help you get vmware running in 2 minutes10:40
vzduch!info vls10:40
ubotuvls: lightweight MPEG and DVD video streaming server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4+cvs20031028-6 (feisty), package size 376 kB, installed size 1032 kB10:40
BluesKajwaste of time ax1s ...i prolly won't use it much anyway ...i have most stuff working on linux that i used to do on windows anyway10:40
BluesKajI already dumped it10:41
ax1sBluesKaj:  you could get an sdcard to usb converter for like 5 bucks ;D10:41
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BluesKajax1s, >??10:41
marko does someone know how do i make subtitles in kaffeine bigger? :DD10:41
ax1sBluesKaj:  you wer egtting vmware  running to get your sd card going, right?10:42
vzduchax1s: do you think it feasible to run VMware on a 900 MHz Athlon?10:42
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t_mausi dont see any of my files in gnump3d10:42
BluesKajnope, my sndcard is fine .. runinig perfectly well ...you're thinking of some one else perhaps10:43
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BluesKajwe were discussing running music files on windows with vmware with another person10:44
ax1swhat would you want vmware for10:44
ax1sfor music10:44
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ax1sBluesKaj:  I have no idea what you want to do10:45
BluesKaji wanted to try it out is all, mainly :)10:45
ax1shahaha10:45
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eagles0513875if anyone is interested in audo multimedia or 3danimation there is a version of ubuntu just for u lol10:46
eagles0513875ubuntustudios.org10:46
eagles0513875www.ubuntustudio.org10:47
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ax1smarko: File/Open File, click the  USE SUBTITLE FILE,  ADVanced settings/ and under Relative font it says Normal - you can change it to large or larger10:47
markoi have it10:47
ax1soh i see10:47
ax1sword10:47
markoalready thanks anyway:D10:47
eagles0513875marko what is it like10:47
ax1smarko: ;] 10:47
markoeagles0513875, what?10:47
eagles0513875ubuntu studio10:47
markoubuntu studio?10:48
BluesKajax1s,, so i can talk my daughter (a total computer newb)  thru her windows probs on her new lappy , without ahving to go the wifes pc to emulate what she's trying to do10:48
eagles0513875marko: ya10:48
markowtf is that:D10:48
eagles0513875pm me if u have identified urself10:48
eagles0513875u said u had it10:48
ax1sBluesKaj:  Oh word..   so you want to talk over the phone? skype it up!10:48
markoi don't have it10:48
marko:s10:48
ax1s:(10:48
eagles0513875oh go to ubunutustudio.org and take a look at the homepg10:49
ax1seagles0513875:  it's nice.. but GIMP ?10:49
eagles0513875? how so10:49
markowhy should i have it?10:49
ax1si'm saying.. the webpage is nice10:49
ax1s;] 10:49
ax1sbut how is gimp good for graphix10:49
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BluesKajwell ax1s , I'm here in northern ontario and daughter is in toronto ... i can't skype her laptop from here :)10:50
psygrasshi.. i am trying to compile and install dekorator; i downloaded Kdevelop, Kdevelop3.dev, build-essential and checkinstall packages... but when i type (make)  in the terminal i get errors and can't install it... please i need to know what libraries still missing? i couldn't find an answer for this on the net :-)10:50
ax1sBluesKaj:  Why not?10:50
BluesKajshe can barely get online , let alone install skype10:50
ax1sBluesKaj: Ahhh10:50
ax1sBluesKaj: So you are trying to get audio to work with linux msn client?10:51
BluesKaj:)10:51
ax1sskype works out of the box10:51
ax1son windows nawyays10:52
eagles0513875lol10:52
ax1s;D10:52
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eagles0513875u forget lol10:52
eagles0513875we dont use windows here lol let alone the dreaded word10:52
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ax1shahah.. find an msn client for linux with audio/video native support10:52
BluesKajno ax1s that was another guy who was asking about running wm files from his ntfs partiton and some mentiom=ned vmware and i just commented that i couldn't get vmware installed ...that's it10:52
ax1snot this plugin with google this and SIPS that10:52
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ax1sBluesKaj:  Ahhhhhhhh10:52
ax1shahahha10:52
eagles0513875u couldnt BluesKaj10:53
eagles0513875cuz that is what im trying to install10:53
ax1sright now?10:53
ax1si can walk you through it10:53
ax1sin like10:53
ax1s5 minutes10:53
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ax1sjoin ivmu10:53
eagles0513875?10:53
eagles0513875is that the channel u want me in ax1s10:53
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BluesKajeagles0513875, i'm not gonna try again today ...i really don't need it ...it's too much of a pain to install10:53
ax1stype /j ivmu10:53
ax1sya10:54
eagles0513875lol i do lol cuz im wanting to test out way to many things10:54
eagles0513875lol like ubuntustudio and fedora710:54
BluesKajI'll lurk , ax1s10:54
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ax1sthere is nothing, yet10:54
ax1si thought skype was gonna bust it out, but they slacked.. google might bring it on tho10:55
ax1s*shrug10:55
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kamuianyone have a GMA900?11:00
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kamuiI need to set up dual displays with the GMA90011:00
kamuineed the know how11:00
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K-RyanI got this command right, right?11:01
K-Ryansudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda11:01
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ubuntubuenas tardes11:03
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K-Ryanhola11:03
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danw99anyone help me with an initramfs problem??11:05
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fokosaserver emupedia.com #antrix11:06
fokosaups11:06
fokosa:D11:06
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virusurbano:d11:07
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virusurbanoalguno a probado gambas?11:09
K-Ryan!es11:11
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:11
K-Ryan!pt11:11
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.11:11
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maverickhey11:13
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SolifugusHow do you config after physically installing a second hard disk?11:13
skullAttacklo all11:13
virusurbanowhats ups11:13
Solifugusthe new disk wasn't autodetected11:13
skullAttacksolifugus - you need to add the disk to fstab11:14
maverickwas wondering how can i add program to kubuntu's startup? i use to do it but i forgot how..i have my script i just need to know where to put it?!!11:14
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skullAttackif you consult with the ubuntu wiki there will be an article there11:14
SolifugusskullAttack: Normally that's what I'd do.. but I don't understand that UUID=,,,, type format it uses11:15
SolifugusskullAttack: I am used to /dev/sdb1 .... type format11:15
K-RyanSolifugus: so you use that11:15
K-Ryanthat's what i was told to do and it worked for me11:15
Solifugusbut isn't there an automatic way??  one would think so..11:16
K-Ryandevice mount-point etc. etc.11:16
K-Ryansudo mount -a11:16
K-Ryanadding the devices automatically, dunno11:16
skullAttacki dont think the UUID is nescessary11:16
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skullAttackif it is, you could copy it from your existing disk, so long as you want its permissions to be the same11:17
SolifugusI don't have a clue what the UUID is..11:17
skullAttackah yea sorry im being a clown11:18
skullAttacki dont think it is nescessary11:18
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skullAttacki might be wrong11:19
skullAttacktry it, if you havent done so already11:19
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SolifugusK-Ryan: So what fs type do you put for ntfs ??11:24
K-Ryanntfs11:24
K-Ryani think11:24
Solifugusnot working11:25
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TeraDyne!ntfs11:25
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:25
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skullAttackyeah it is ntfs11:27
skullAttackfat32 is vfat11:27
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yurimxpxmando any of you know how to make Google Desktop open with Firefox instead of Konqueror?11:28
skullAttacka sample of my fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:28
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skullAttackand a 1 at the end11:28
skullAttack(oh, its there. damn my eyes are borked)11:29
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SolifugusTeraDyne: thanks.. that diskmounter thingy worked perfectly...11:30
skullAttack!ntfs11:31
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:31
skullAttackthats a nice script11:33
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skullAttacki still like doing it the old way ;)11:33
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K-RyanAnyone know how I can extract the contents of an iso?11:39
Mr_Sonomaquick question, what package do i need to install to play .avi and .wmv in kaffine?11:39
skullAttacklibxine-extracodecs11:39
skullAttacki think11:39
skullAttackor libxine1-ffmpeg11:40
Mr_Sonomaok will try it thanks11:40
skullAttackhell, install both11:40
skullAttack;) np11:40
crazyrobotor w32codecs or there is a package on the mplayer website.11:40
skullAttackya11:40
crazyrobotdo a search for mediabuntu repository and add it.11:40
vzduchK-Ryan: mkdir ~/tmp/iso (or another dir wherever you want) && sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile.iso ~/tmp/iso11:42
Mr_SonomaE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate11:42
vzduchthen browse11:42
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crazyrobot!wmv11:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:43
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K-Ryanvzduch: ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument11:43
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vzduchhmm11:44
K-Ryansudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 dsl-3.4.iso /home/ubuntu/Desktop/New\ Folder/11:44
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crazyrobottry switching the loop like 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop dsl-3.4.iso /home/ubuntu/Desktop/New\ Folder/'11:45
K-RyanSame error11:46
vzduchK-Ryan: just tried w/ a local iso, no problem here11:46
K-Ryan=*(11:47
K-RyanMaybe it's because I'm on the live cd?11:47
vzduchcould be.. I've heard of the strangest errors when working w/ the live CD11:47
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frojndIs there any software fo flash DVDs CDs ??11:50
Mr_Sonomaok got it...thanks yall...11:50
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HyperCityafter starting a tomcat server i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28876/ (i asume the server has started right) but when i'm tring to conect to http://localhost:8080/ i get page not found , what should i do now?12:05
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trakinashey there folks!! I need to compress a folder (57MB +/-) to =< a 50MB. gzip and bzip does not do the job, so as 7zip (=( ) . rar does work, but it screws up special characters and gives me header error.12:08
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shane2perudoes anyone know how to how to configure superkaramba widgets?12:09
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shane2peruI right click and the configure is greyed out :)12:10
trakinasshane2peru: try looking at widgets own Readme. imho, superkaramba is reaaallyyyyy heavy12:11
shane2peruis karamba better ?12:12
shane2perutrakinas: where do I find the Readme?12:12
shane2perutrakinas: do you recommend another one?  I love those little widgets.12:13
shane2peru!kde12:13
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:13

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