[12:15] <jhutchins_lt> Alt-F2
[12:15] <quinton_> go on
[12:15] <K-Ryan> type that in
[12:15] <K-Ryan> kdesu kate.....
[12:15] <quinton_> ok now?
[12:16] <K-Ryan> look for timeout or delay setting
[12:16] <jhutchins_lt> /engage brain
[12:16] <K-Ryan> =)
[12:16] <quinton_> I dont quiet understand
[12:16] <quinton_> please explain more literate?
[12:16] <Schuenemann> alt f2, then paste the command
[12:16] <ninHer> hi all
[12:16] <arekanderu> stdin: hey man, now I've activated the nvidia
[12:16] <K-Ryan> What language do you usually speak quinton_?
[12:17] <arekanderu> stdin: but now it says that OpenGL ain't installed
[12:17] <stdin> arekanderu: what says that?
[12:17] <K-Ryan> !format
[12:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:17] <arekanderu> stdin: the game i'm trying to run
[12:17] <K-Ryan> How can I completely erase a hard drive?
[12:17] <K-Ryan> Preferably from the konsole
[12:17] <K-Ryan> Because Gparted is giving me an error box with nothing in it
[12:17] <K-Ryan> I want the drive zeroed
[12:17] <quinton_> shuenemann: I did that, Now it loaded untitled - kate
[12:18] <stdin> K-Ryan: you format it, with the mkfs command, see "man mkfs"
[12:18] <K-Ryan> quinton_: You typed something in wrong then
[12:18] <quinton_> kdesu kate
[12:18] <stdin> arekanderu: well you will have it installed, it's installed with X
[12:18] <stdin> arekanderu: what's the exact output?
[12:18] <K-Ryan> No you needed to type in the whole line quinton_
[12:18] <Schuenemann> you were told kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:19] <arekanderu> stdin:
[12:19] <arekanderu> X Server has no OpenGL extension. (Error Code 31)
[12:19] <arekanderu> Please ensure your X Server features an OpenGL extension.
[12:19] <quinton_> sorry
[12:19] <quinton_> I didnt see that
[12:19] <K-Ryan> stdin: I just need it empty
[12:19] <stdin> arekanderu: ahh, do you have "Load    "glx"" in your /
[12:19] <K-Ryan> General command for that please? =)
[12:19] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Alt-F2, then kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst, then look for "timeout".
[12:19] <stdin> arekanderu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:20] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: I got it now, thank you, just timeout to 0 ?
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: i'll chekc
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: check*
[12:20] <stdin> K-Ryan: you want it ext3?
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: I would set it to 1
[12:20] <K-Ryan> stdin: Well I plan on partitioning it into a few different things
[12:20] <K-Ryan> But right now I just need it empty, or one thing I guess
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Much easier to deal with than if you set it to 0 and need it.
[12:20] <stdin> K-Ryan: ahh, so you want to delete the partition?
[12:20] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: like this it will not show correct?
[12:20] <K-Ryan> I want the whole drive
[12:20] <K-Ryan> empty
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: i can't finy any "load"
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: what should I do?
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Let it show for one second.
[12:21] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: whats the difference?
[12:21] <stdin> K-Ryan: is it the main drive (the one you are running from) or another one?
[12:21] <doml_> hi, maybe a silly question, but what's the easiest way to just get rid of all my old kernels?
[12:21] <K-Ryan> I'm on a live cd
[12:21] <stdin> arekanderu: post the file to pastebin please
[12:21] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: If you ever have a problem with a kernel, or a hard drive, or whatever, you can still boot.
[12:21] <K-Ryan> its /dev/hdc
[12:21] <arekanderu> stdin: kk
[12:21] <K-Ryan> there's no hdb, go figure
[12:21] <doml_> i keep a separate /boot partition and it's almost full, i won't be able to get any more kernel updates...
[12:21] <arekanderu> !postbin | arekanderu
[12:21] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Otherwise you would need a boot disk or rescue CD or something.
[12:21] <stdin> K-Ryan: ok, open up qtparted
[12:21] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: oh, well it will be ok like this My computer Is very well managed.
[12:21] <Schuenemann> !pastebin
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <K-Ryan> doml_ delete older kernels
[12:22] <stdin> K-Ryan: or from the command line, run "sudo fdisk /dev/hdc"
[12:22] <K-Ryan> stdin: i have gparted open but whenever I try to delete a partition i get a blank error mesage
[12:22] <K-Ryan> command line it is!
[12:22] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28726/
[12:23] <K-Ryan> It came up with "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
[12:23] <K-Ryan> then "Command (m for help):
[12:23] <doml_> other then going in to a terminal and doing "rm -Rf /boot/*", or whatever.  something a bit more, you know, 21st century
[12:23] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: will automatix work well with kubuntu?
[12:23] <K-Ryan> Put in w?
[12:23] <jhutchins_lt> doml_: Don't just delete them, remove them with apt.
[12:23] <HayaBusa> HI guys, I have xp and linux on same system . with many files on xp partition, I Like to know how to make a link to folders on xp ?
[12:23] <K-Ryan> quinton_ NEVER USE AUTOMATIX
[12:23] <jhutchins_lt> !ntfs | HayaBusa
[12:23] <ubotu> HayaBusa: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:23] <K-Ryan> !automatix
[12:24] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:24] <stdin> K-Ryan: seeing as you want to repartition the whole drive, yeah
[12:24] <K-Ryan> =)
[12:24] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28726/
[12:24] <K-Ryan> Unable to write /dev/hdc
[12:24] <K-Ryan> =(
[12:24] <quinton_> k-ryan: any other sugguestion to install flash? and getting frostwire to work?
[12:24] <stdin> arekanderu: try changing the "load glx" part to "Load glx" under "Section "Module""
[12:24] <TrueFX> hi guys
[12:24] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Needless to say, you must be root or use sudo.
[12:25] <HayaBusa> MY partition is mounted and i can brows, but i need to crate like shortcut to some folders on my xp partion
[12:25] <K-Ryan> I did type sudo
[12:25] <arekanderu> stdin: how did i open xorg.conf with sudo now again? >.<
[12:25] <TrueFX> i cant furf using my browser
[12:25] <K-Ryan> I think I did
[12:25] <K-Ryan> Yeah, I did
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> HayaBusa: I suppose you can click-and-drag.
[12:25] <TrueFX> how can  i see what blocks it doing that ?
[12:25] <TrueFX> suf
[12:25] <TrueFX> surf
[12:25] <HayaBusa> i will try ..
[12:25] <HayaBusa> thanks
[12:25] <stdin> arekanderu: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <K-Ryan> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/hdc
[12:25] <K-Ryan> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[12:25] <Schuenemann> stdin, he can also try AllowGlxWithComposite "True"... I only got it working with that line
[12:26] <stdin> arekanderu:  ^ try that too
[12:26] <stdin> K-Ryan: make sure it's not mounted anywhere
[12:26] <HayaBusa> yep. that worked. thanks
[12:26] <K-Ryan> I don't think it's mounted but I'll look around
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: checking now
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: mount will tell you.
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: nothing changed
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: same error msg (31)
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: i have to reboot >.<
[12:27] <stdin> arekanderu: you have to restart the Xserver after
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: lol, brb
[12:27] <stdin> arekanderu: no need to reboot
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: yeah, brb
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: ?
[12:27] <K-Ryan> It doesn't seem to be mounted
[12:27] <stdin> arekanderu: just restart the server, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[12:28] <K-Ryan> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdc
[12:28] <K-Ryan> mount: can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:28] <stdin> K-Ryan: try "mount | grep hdc"
[12:28] <K-Ryan> nothing came up
[12:28] <arekanderu> stdin: same error msg (31)
[12:28] <arekanderu> stdin:  :((
[12:29] <stdin> hmm
[12:30] <arekanderu> stdin: and i can only have graphics 800*600 or 2024*something :(
[12:30] <arekanderu> stdin: :'(
[12:30] <Schuenemann> maybe it is your monitor settings (that was my problem)
[12:30] <stdin> arekanderu: try posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[12:30] <arekanderu> stdin: kk brb
[12:31] <arekanderu> stdin: uhm, it won't let me
[12:31] <arekanderu> stdin: "Denied"
[12:31] <RandomDude16> how can i get mkv files to play without lagging?
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: just use sudo when that happens.
[12:31] <stdin> arekanderu: what won't let you?
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Sorry, kdesu.
[12:31] <arekanderu> stdin: the command you told me to write, the command won't let me open that log
[12:31] <K-Ryan> Anyone know a command to force a hard drive and all its partitions to be erased?
[12:32] <RandomDude16> I have an Athlon 64 3000+ with an NVIDIA Geforce 7600
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: kdesu <command>
[12:32] <K-Ryan> I don't need or want any of it
[12:32] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: kdesu, k, ty :)
[12:32] <K-Ryan> I want it GONE
[12:32] <stdin> arekanderu: you don't need root to open it
[12:32] <Schuenemann> there is nothing to deny it, he's just pasting a file =?
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Any time you get access denied or an error like that, can not write lock file, etc. just make sure you're using kdesu or sudo.
[12:32] <arekanderu> stdin: wow, Permission Denied anyway
[12:32] <RandomDude16> anyone?
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Figure anything that can affect the system you'll need that.
[12:33] <arekanderu> stdin: this sucks.. :(
[12:33] <stdin> arekanderu: what does "ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log" show?
[12:33] <K-Ryan> Please...
[12:33] <arekanderu> stdin: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32590 2007-07-06 00:30 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:34] <K-Ryan> I'm dying here
[12:34] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: thanks man
[12:34] <stdin> arekanderu: then you should be able to read it
[12:34] <arekanderu> stdin: won't let me ;(
[12:34] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: fdisk
[12:34] <arekanderu> stdin: w8, posting it to pastebin so you can take a look yourself
[12:34] <arekanderu> !pastebin
[12:34] <stdin> K-Ryan: try pressing "o" in fdisk
[12:34] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: What are you actually using to try to look at it?
[12:35] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: the command
[12:35] <arekanderu> !pastebin | arekanderu
[12:35] <arekanderu> ...
[12:35] <arekanderu> !pastebin
[12:35] <K-Ryan> o doesn't do anything
[12:35] <Contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[12:35] <arekanderu> ?pastebin
[12:35] <arekanderu> ..
[12:35] <stdin> K-Ryan: it should create a new partition table
[12:35] <jhutchins_lt> Ooh, ubotu doesn't feel well...
[12:35] <Contrast83> Does anyone know if X supports dual graphics card setups
[12:35] <Contrast83> ?
[12:35] <K-Ryan> stdin: it doesn't
[12:35] <arekanderu> !pastebin | Contrast83
[12:36] <jhutchins_lt> Dead bot.
[12:36] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | arekanderu
[12:36] <stdin> Contrast83: it does, with some settings
[12:36] <Schuenemann> the bot is offline hehehe
[12:36] <arekanderu> The bot is dead
[12:36] <arekanderu> i don't know the address
[12:36] <Contrast83> stdin: How do you mean?
[12:36] <arekanderu> to the pastebin ..
[12:36] <Contrast83> Settings on the cards themselves?
[12:36] <Schuenemann> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:37] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28727/
[12:37] <arekanderu> stdin: that's what it says
[12:37] <stdin> arekanderu: you'll need to add the settings to xorg.conf, I don't think that system settings can do it
[12:37] <arekanderu> stdin: please, could you guide me?
[12:38] <stdin> arekanderu: that's not right, it's not a command, just open kate and then open /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:38] <arekanderu> stdin: where's that "kate"?
[12:39] <Contrast83> arekanderu: KMenu -> Utilities -> Kate
[12:39] <arekanderu> Contrast83: ty
[12:39] <Contrast83> yep
[12:39] <arekanderu> stdin: i opened the /var thingy
[12:39] <arekanderu> stdin: and now?
[12:40] <stdin> post it to pastebin
[12:40] <arekanderu> kk
[12:40] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28728/
[12:41] <Contrast83> stdin: Do you know of a resource you could point me to where I could read up on dual graphics cards under Linux in general?
[12:41] <quinton_> How would I run a .exe file?
[12:42] <stdin> Contrast83: umm, google? but look on http://linuxquestions.org and the http://ubuntuforums.org too
[12:42] <stdin> !wine | quinton_
[12:42] <Contrast83> K, thanks
[12:42] <arekanderu> stdin: did you find anything m8?
[12:42] <quinton_> stdin: wine is free?
[12:42] <stdin> dang, ubotu is slow
[12:42] <ubotu> quinton_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:43] <stdin> arekanderu: I'm no expert on the nvidia driver, but I can't see anything wrong in there
[12:43] <K-Ryan> !unmount
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <arekanderu> stdin: this sucks man.. :(
[12:43] <K-Ryan> I was told to try...
[12:43] <stdin> arekanderu: GLX is loaded too "(II) Loading extension GLX"
[12:43] <K-Ryan> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=1
[12:43] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: umount.  man umount.
[12:43] <K-Ryan> It tells me Read-only file system
[12:43] <arekanderu> stdin: ok?
[12:43] <K-Ryan> what, I put in the n?
[12:44] <K-Ryan> -.-
[12:44] <arekanderu> stdin: what should I do then?
[12:44] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: You've probably specified your CD then.
[12:44] <RandomDude16> HELLO?
[12:44] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: sudo fdisk -l, see what it says.
[12:44] <stdin> arekanderu: not sure, as far as I can see, it should work
[12:44] <K-Ryan> Specified my CD?
[12:44] <Heulsay> Hi, is there any repository for the new kde4 alpha 2 ?
[12:44] <quinton_> k-ryan: what is the repository in kubuntu and how do I get to it?
[12:44] <stdin> K-Ryan: remember on feisty your disk will be /dev/sdX not /dev/hdX
[12:44] <jhutchins_lt> Heulsay: They usually prefer that you run from the KDE sources if you're going to bug test an alpha.
[12:45] <K-Ryan> This is a Dapper CD
[12:45] <arekanderu> stdin: cant i download the drivers again?
[12:45] <arekanderu> stdin: or?
[12:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> derek, is that you?
[12:45] <K-Ryan> That did it
[12:45] <derekporter> no its tina
[12:45] <K-Ryan> The sdc instead of hdc
[12:45] <RandomDude16> Anyone care to help me fix my problem?
[12:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol
[12:45] <arekanderu> !nvidia
[12:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <quinton_> stdin: where do I find kubuntu's respository?
[12:45] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: You want to be pretty careful with that.
[12:45] <RandomDude16> !hstv
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hstv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: I wouldn't do dd, I'd use fdisk.
[12:45] <RandomDude16> !hdtv
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <K-Ryan> Too late *shrug*
[12:45] <RandomDude16> !mkv
[12:45] <stdin> quinton_: open the Adept package manager
[12:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Using dd you could end up with an unsalvagable drive.
[12:46] <RandomDude16> !cpu
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <K-Ryan> I don't need what was on it
[12:46] <stdin> arekanderu: you can try reinstaling it, but I don't think that would help
[12:46] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: I know, but presumably you want the actual disk.  You could break it with dd so that you can't use it for anything else.
[12:47] <arekanderu> stdin: wow man, this really sucks
[12:47] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: that wouldn't break it, just blank it
[12:47] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Also, if you get the wrong device name again, you could end up with a dead system.
[12:47] <jhutchins_lt> stdin: So if he overwrites the partition table and mbr....
[12:47] <arekanderu> stdin: brb, gonna try some new stuff
[12:47] <arekanderu> stdin: i'll brb
[12:48] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: that's what he wants
[12:48] <K-Ryan> Never mind it didn't work
[12:48] <K-Ryan> hdc is still intact
[12:48] <K-Ryan> except in GParted there is now an empty sdc
[12:49] <sito__> [00:45]  <sito__> ssh root@83.57.117.XXX:22
[12:49] <sito__> [00:45]  <sito__>its correct?
[12:49] <K-Ryan> sudo fdisk -l says /dev/hda
[12:50] <K-Ryan> So that's not the problem
[12:50] <stdin> stdin: leave out the :22
[12:50] <arekanderu> !nvidia
[12:50] <stdin> heh, ^ speaking to self
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <stdin> sito__:  leave out the :22
[12:51] <sito__> stdin, thanks!!
[12:51] <TeraDyne> !ies4linux > TeraDyne
[12:51] <sito__> but, can i put in port 222 for example?
[12:52] <stdin> sito__: you'd use "ssh -p 222 root@myhostname"
[12:53] <Sloik> Yo
[12:54] <stdin> Yo-Ho-Ho
[12:54] <sito__> stdin: thanks thanks !! XD
[12:54] <stdin> no problem :)
[12:54] <Schuenemann> is anyone able to play MIDI files?
[12:54] <stdin> !midi
[12:54] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[12:54] <Sloik> Only through this one program
[12:54] <Sloik> timidity
[12:55] <Schuenemann> stdin, there is a problem with that wiki, there was a update
[12:56] <Schuenemann> the file listed is not created anymore
[01:02] <patrux> hello :)
[01:02] <quinton_> Can someone guide me through installing flash?
[01:02] <stdin> !flash
[01:02] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:03] <patrux> adobe flashplayer ?
[01:03] <Schuenemann> yes
[01:03] <stdin> flash is only available in 32bit format, ie: not for PPC and not on 64bit (unless you use 32bit firefox)
[01:03] <quinton_> stdin: im not so literate in linux please guide me?
[01:04] <stdin> quinton_: what version are you using?
[01:04] <spark_> hi everyone
[01:04] <quinton_> stdin: feisty fawn I do believe
[01:04] <patrux> you have to install firefox 32bit version
[01:04] <quinton_> stdin: I need java to run a program not browser...
[01:05] <stdin> quinton_: you should just be able to install the package called "flashplugin-nonfree" in adept
[01:05] <stdin> quinton_: flash isn't java
[01:05] <quinton_> stdin: I get them mixed alot... hmm so how to install?
[01:06] <spark_> i got a crazy problem with vmware-workstation 6.0 : everytime i restart my system i have to reconfigure it with the *.pl file if i start it without configurating the program crashes. does anyone know why my pc cant "rembember" the configuration?
[01:06] <stdin> quinton_: to install java, the easiest way IMO is to open konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
[01:07] <quinton_> stdin: thankies
[01:07] <BluesKaj> he prolly needs flash for youtube as well :)
[01:07] <stdin> quinton_: you'll have to accept the licence, use tab, page-up, page-down and enter to navigate
[01:08] <vit__> hola
[01:08] <quinton_> stdin: works nicely
[01:08] <BluesKaj> good point stdin , lotsa ppl forget about the licence agreement and they think when using adept or synaptic that the install timed out or stalled.
[01:09] <stdin> !es | vit__
[01:09] <ubotu> vit__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:09] <firebird_619> What command can I use to determine my monitors horizontal sync frequency and vertical refresh rate? "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" does not work.
[01:09] <quinton_> stdin: hey... how do
[01:09] <quinton_> stdin: I select ok?
[01:10] <vit__> I'm sorry i don't speak english
[01:10] <stdin> quinton_: yeah
[01:10] <quinton_> stdin: how?
[01:10] <quinton_> stdin: enter isnt wanting to work
[01:10] <stdin> quinton_: use the tab key
[01:10] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:10] <quinton_> stdin: thanks
[01:11] <arekanderu> Guys
[01:11] <arekanderu> I'm going mad
[01:11] <arekanderu> Nothing seems to work
[01:11] <arekanderu> I can't get my video card (nVidia Geforce MX440) TO WORK
[01:11] <quinton_> stdin: it still says when I try to run the program (no java?) and to get java now
[01:12] <arekanderu> I beg you, somebody please help me
[01:12] <stdin> quinton_: now do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[01:12] <arekanderu> i'm going nuts :((
[01:12] <stdin> quinton_: choose the one that looks like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java"
[01:13] <Ace2016> !nvidia
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <Ace2016> arekanderu: tried that?
[01:13] <quinton_> stdin: I selected it
[01:13] <arekanderu> Ace2016: to many times now
[01:13] <quinton_> stdin: now?
[01:13] <arekanderu> Ace2016: anyway, ty for trying to help
[01:13] <stdin> quinton_: that should be all you need to do
[01:13] <quinton_> stdin: the program still asks for java
[01:14] <stdin> quinton_: what's it's exact output?
[01:14] <stdin> quinton_: and what program is it?
[01:14] <quinton_> stdin: limewire turbo
[01:14] <quinton_> stdin: I installed it with wine
[01:14] <Ace2016> arekanderu: did you get any errors? or what?
[01:14] <liuqinglai> What you are talking about java
[01:15] <stdin> quinton_: limewire is available on linux
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: not limewire turbo
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: its alot quiker =/
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: thats the only reason I wish to use it.
[01:15] <stdin> quinton_: and if it's in wine, then you need to install the windows version of java in wine
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: ><; alright, thanks
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: yeah
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: my graphic card just won't work
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: i've fixed the xorg.conf thing
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: i've done EVERYTHING i think
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: gonna try one last thing
[01:16] <arekanderu> !nvidia
[01:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:17] <quinton_> stdin: wow, wine is great
[01:17] <Ace2016> did sudo modprobe nvidia give errors? if not the module loads, did you try restarting? what is exactly the problem?
[01:18] <vit__> yes
[01:18] <liuqinglai> I hava installed KDE last night and when I use it most of the cpu and momery was used than I used Gnome,
[01:19] <arekanderu> the problem is
[01:19] <arekanderu> that
[01:19] <arekanderu> kubuntu won't find my graphic card
[01:19] <arekanderu> or something like that
[01:19] <arekanderu> i've got NO CLUE
[01:19] <arekanderu> i've tried EVERYTHING and it just WON'T WORK
[01:19] <liuqinglai> are you all face the same thing
[01:19] <quinton_> stdin: im guessing if it says a file could not install I just keep trying?
[01:20] <liuqinglai> I hava installed KDE last night and when I use it most of the cpu and momery was used than I used Gnome,are you all face the same thing
[01:20] <arekanderu> liuqinglai: Nope
[01:20] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: No.
[01:21] <stdin> quinton_: not sure, don't use wine
[01:21] <quinton_> stdin: it failed on a file and now it still wont load
[01:21] <stdin> quinton_: you can ask in #winehq
[01:21] <liuqinglai> why I face it it used my momery more than 50%
[01:23] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: KDE is a heavier desktop environment than GNOME, so it'll probably use more system resources. However, it differs from machine to machine
[01:23] <liuqinglai> OH
[01:23] <liuqinglai>  Oh
[01:23] <liuqinglai> I just want to try so I install it
[01:24] <liuqinglai>  I think I'll be used to use Gnome
[01:25] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: If you perfer GNOME, use it. That's the cool thing about Linux, you get a wide variety of window and desktop managers to choose from.
[01:28] <liuqinglai> yes but there are many software that are stable when run under the KDE
[01:29] <TeraDyne> Most, if not all, KDE apps run just as well under GNOME as they do KDE.
[01:30] <arekanderu> I think it's working guys!
[01:31] <liuqinglai> Oh but I run KDevelop under the Gnome it face some problem
[01:33] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: Like what?
[01:33] <arekanderu> Guys
[01:33] <arekanderu> I finally made it
[01:33] <arekanderu> It WERE the wrong drivers
[01:33] <liuqinglai> I don't know
[01:34] <arekanderu> But I changed them with the right ones
[01:34] <liuqinglai> I just switch from windows a bit time
[01:34] <The_Vox> I'm looking for a kernel 2.6.19 or newer for kubuntu 6.10...trying to get the stupid network on it working
[01:35] <The_Vox> anybody got a clue of where I could get that? or will I need to compile a kernel.org?
[01:35] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: Getting used to the differences in Linux takes time. Give it a bit to sink in, you'll get used to it.
[01:36] <liuqinglai> I want it will be so
[01:37] <stdin> The_Vox: why not just upgrade to feisty, it uses 2.6.20?
[01:39] <The_Vox> stdin: 'cause I had planned on doing a network upgrade...except I didn't count with the fact that the 6.10 kernel doesn't support the stupid integrated network card of that puter
[01:39] <Ace2016> stdin: wouldn't just installing feisty 2.6.20 debs in edgy work?
[01:40] <The_Vox> Ace2016: that's what I'm thinking....can somebody supply me with the name of the kernel's deb so I can google it?
[01:41] <stdin> The_Vox: it's at <http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic_2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb>
[01:41] <Sanne> The_Vox: you can search for package names at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <lyynox> hi fellas
[01:42] <The_Vox> thanks, stdin
[01:42] <lyynox> how am I supposed to use 915resolution package
[01:42] <lyynox> thanks
[01:43] <The_Vox> Sanne: thanks too :)
[01:43] <Sanne> :)
[01:44] <stdin> lyynox: you need to edit /etc/default/915resolution
[01:44] <lyynox> stdin: edit to what?
[01:44] <stdin> lyynox: it's explained in the file
[01:45] <lyynox> by the way my splash isn't showing up, am I supposed to edit grub?
[01:45] <lyynox> stdin: okis
[01:45] <lyynox> how about during boot, the stuff isn't showing up
[01:45] <stdin> lyynox: make sure you have the splash option in your menu.lst
[01:51] <lyes> hello
[01:52] <lyes> salut !!
[01:58] <Nyle> is it possible to somehow install kde 3.5.7 on kubuntu?
[01:58] <Nyle> I just downloaded the cd of kubuntu 4.07 and I only see kde 3.5.6 on it
[01:58] <Nyle> 7.04
[01:58] <Darkrift> !vmware
[01:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:58] <Ace2016> The_Vox: you can get debs here http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/   but i'm not sure if it'll work
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: there are repos to install 3.5.7
[01:59] <Ace2016> well the kernel usually doesn't depend on anything else but i don't have that much knowledge about it
[01:59] <vzduch> !kde
[01:59] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[01:59] <Nyle> oh its on the internet?
[01:59] <Nyle> but not on the cd?
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> because 3.5.6 was current as of feisty's release, that's what was included
[02:00] <Nyle> ohhh
[02:00] <Nyle> that makes sense
[02:00] <vzduch> the CD was mastered in April
[02:00] <Nyle> is it ok to ask kubuntu questions in ubuntu or not?
[02:00] <[Al] chemist_ex> can someone help with my sound?  This really sucks. I have my instrument playing through my speakers pluged into the from mic.  I can hear it through the speakers, but I can't for the life of me record from it!
[02:01] <Nyle> or do I have to restrict myself from #ubuntu and only ask here?
[02:01] <Nyle> the live cd is installing right now, however I ran into a problem when I booted the live cd on my pc
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: kubuntu-specific questions are better off here
[02:01] <Nyle> I was supposed to get a kde desktop on the kubuntu 7.04 cd but I didn't
[02:02] <Nyle> instead I was given a completely blank screen with the cursor blinking in top left
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> that's odd.
[02:02] <Nyle> I had to go to alt+f1 and do 'startx'
[02:02] <Nyle> I have an X1900XTX it doesn't work with anything but fglrx or vesa
[02:02] <Nyle> kubuntu uses which driver for video on the live cd?
[02:03] <Nyle> becuase I saw the entire screen scrambled up and then black
[02:03] <Nyle> after which I did as I said
[02:03] <stdin> Nyle: it would use "ati" or "radion", the free drivers
[02:03] <intelikey> i have a "unbootable" issue with dapper drake.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37950
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> which don't support the newest cards, i don't think
[02:04] <Nyle> those drivers don't work this card
[02:04] <Nyle> s/work/drive
[02:04] <chalabera> !fonts
[02:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:04] <intelikey> seems that it can't make a usable initrd.img because depmod is hosed  any clue-by-four ?
[02:04] <Nyle> I've always disliked ubuntu and have been a debian man
[02:04] <intelikey> error is: tty1 [root@~]  depmod
[02:04] <Nyle> but I've sucked it up and I've decided to give kubuntu a shot
[02:04] <intelikey> depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented
[02:05] <Nyle> I've heard that 7.04 is really good
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: better experience, IMO
[02:05] <Nyle> yeh, I think so too
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> been running kubuntu since last october
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and never regretted it once
[02:05] <[Al] chemist_ex> so no one can help me with sound?
[02:05] <Nyle> I've always been partial to debian
[02:05] <Nyle> anyway, let me restart, i'll brb
[02:05] <chalabera> !freetype
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <vzduch> but Feisty is really nice
[02:06] <chalabera> what are those fonts open source that aren't installed by default? I think apples or something?
[02:06] <vzduch> chalabera: ?
[02:06] <vzduch> !info ttf-liberation
[02:06] <ubotu> Package ttf-liberation does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:07] <vzduch> wtf? the bot is not up to date, I have those installed..
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: oh lord, comparing hoary to feisty is like comparing a chevette to a camaro
[02:07] <chalabera> not those ones something about freetype
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> not even fair
[02:07] <vzduch> chalabera: freetype is a font renderer, has nothing to do w/ the fonts themselves
[02:08] <chalabera> vzduch: is that isntalled by defult?
[02:08] <[Al] chemist_ex> am I even actually talking?  or did I identify not work?
[02:08] <vzduch> I guess so, all desktop environments depend on it
[02:08] <Nyle> back
[02:09] <Nyle> I need to install fglrx in ubuntu.  I use module-assistant to install the drivers in debian, how do I do it in kubuntu
[02:09] <TeraDyne> chalabera: are you talking about the mscore fonts?
[02:09] <vzduch> !ati | Nyle
[02:09] <ubotu> Nyle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:10] <Nyle> hey
[02:10] <drgonzo_> hello all
[02:10] <chalabera> TeraDyne: no
[02:11] <Nyle> does 7.04 kubuntu have fglrx latest or should I go with ati.com drivers?
[02:11] <drgonzo_> is there somewhere to add suggestions to kubuntu releases?
[02:11] <chalabera> nevermind I     might be confusing things
[02:11] <drgonzo_> I personally think they should intergrate spambayes and kmail.
[02:11] <chalabera> what are Apples fonts package?
[02:11] <Nyle> which install method should I get is what I'm asking depending on which version of drivers is newest
[02:11] <Nyle> do you know?
[02:11] <drgonzo_> instead of spamassassin + bogo.
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> chalabera: type 1 fonts?
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Nyle, better yet try this , of course it depends on which ati card you have . If it's alower end onboard type this tutorial will do the trick. http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[02:12] <Nyle> I made a mistake bying this card
[02:12] <stdin> Nyle: go with the packaged version first, if that doesn't work then try the other one
[02:12] <Nyle> BluesKaj: X1900XTX 256MB GDDR3
[02:12] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: do you know the package name by any chance?
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not a clue
[02:12] <pagan0ne> im having a very intresting poblem.... i am running kubuntu 7.04 x86 with nvidia drivers, when i boot into console, and login and then startx it all works, when i set it to load kdm on boot, it just hangs w/ black screen, unless i load the nv driver and it loads as normal, anyone have any ideas on what would cause this?
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's what you're looking for?
[02:12] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: just have them for the sake of it
[02:13] <chalabera> !flash
[02:13] <pagan0ne> err i ment x64
[02:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:13] <chalabera> wtf!! is not telling me the package name of flash
[02:14] <Nyle> 8.38.6 is in ati.amd.com.  How do I check which driver the fglrx package has in kubuntu?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Nyle, eeeeueeww , you have a higher end , maybe the proprietary new ATI drivers for linux will work
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> t1-xfree86-nonfree?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> !ATI
[02:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <BluesKaj> no that's not it
[02:14] <Nyle> BluesKaj: that doesn't help me
[02:14] <Nyle> :)
[02:14] <vzduch> good night :)
[02:14] <BluesKaj> yeah i'm aware
[02:15] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: you are genious thanks
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Nyle, try this  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[02:16] <Darkrift> woiw
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, just a search in adept-manager :)
[02:16] <Darkrift> 10 minutes from setup-cd boot to installed windows xp boot in vmware
[02:16] <Darkrift> is it me or is that crazy fast
[02:16] <drgonzo_> mmm it seems kmail does have support for spambayes
[02:16] <drgonzo_> [Spamtool #5] 
[02:16] <drgonzo_> Ident=spambayes
[02:17] <drgonzo_> in antispamrc file
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Nyle, , click on the 'latest"fglrx near the top of the page
[02:17] <drgonzo_> so why is it kmail doesn't detect it from the filter wizard?
[02:17] <Morkai> i am feeling like an idiot, what's the cmd to pm someone ?
[02:18] <Morkai> in irc
[02:18] <drgonzo_> ./msg
[02:18] <drgonzo_> without the dot
[02:18] <Nyle> I can't just do aptitude install fglrx module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare && sudo m-a a-i fglrx && sudo modprobe fglrx?
[02:18] <Morkai> cool thanks, i remember it was something like /w or /pm or something but i musta been thinking about an online game or something !
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay, i'm trying to figure out how to do a video screencap contact sheet (like so: http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6079/magi15ok.jpg ).  that particular output is from media player classic in windows, is there a way to do this that anyone here knows?  i would have thought VLC would have that sort of capability, but apparently not :\
[02:19] <Nyle> do I have to go through all that reading?
[02:19] <Nyle> :(
[02:19] <Nyle> in debian it is as simple as this, this readin is gonna kill me man
[02:19] <BluesKaj> well Nyle, try it yer way and see if it works :)
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: it's just the new video card.  more or less unsupported right now :)
[02:20] <Nyle> it works just as it should in debian
[02:20] <Morkai> anyonew have any experiance with beryl in kubuntu and nvidia cards ?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> it is supported on the page i just posted Daisuke_Ido
[02:21] <chalabera> what's the flash pkg name?
[02:22] <Darkrift> anyone know how to get files info a vmware image that has no working networking?
[02:22] <BluesKaj> he just has to  click on the 'latest"fglrx near the top of the page , it' ll take him the downloads link
[02:22] <Darkrift> lol
[02:23] <drgonzo_> ok figured out a workaround
[02:23] <drgonzo_> should i post it to bugs ?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> Nyle, just click on the latest driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases... 8.38.6
[02:27] <alejandro> me podrian ayudar de como montar dispositivos nts
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: groovy :D
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !es | alejandro
[02:28] <ubotu> alejandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> now, got a solution for me? :D
[02:28] <pagan0ne> im having a very intresting poblem.... i am running kubuntu 7.04 x64 with nvidia drivers, when i boot into console, and login and then startx it all works, when i set it to load kdm on boot, it just hangs w/ black screen, unless i load the nv driver and it loads as normal, anyone have any ideas on what would cause this?
[02:29] <Morkai> i had that problem, but it was soon after i installed, so i just reinstalled and it worked lol sorry no help, i know :/
[02:30] <CrunchyFerrett> ...
[02:30] <CrunchyFerrett> I wonder
[02:30] <CrunchyFerrett> !en
[02:30] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:30] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, yeah right ...i just have a bit of knowledge about the crappy ati stuff
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sure there's a way, even if it involves making mplayer take stills at a selected interval and using something else to automatically composite them with file info at the top...
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i would obviously prefer something a bit simpler, but meh
[02:31] <Nyle> under fglrx mplayer can't use vo xv
[02:31] <Nyle> only x11
[02:31] <Nyle> its garbage
[02:31] <Nyle> :(
[02:31] <Nyle> goddamn ati
[02:31] <Nyle> I just use gl2 w/multiple textures
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: you've just discovered the most common phrase uttered by any linux user.
[02:32] <Nyle> well, I bought this card specifically for Oblivion
[02:32] <BluesKaj> did you check my last post direct at you Nyle ?
[02:32] <Nyle> this card topped out any 7series geforece for 200$ last year
[02:32] <Nyle> much higher oblivion framerates so I bought it
[02:32] <Nyle> when I bought it, it was runing 90C+ in 3d mode
[02:32] <intelikey> ok guys.  the security updates had a new version of the 2.5.15-28 kernel so i updated   "spent 3 hours downloading it." it's the same version so it doesn't make a new /lib/modules/dir  and for some reason depmod fails and therefore the initramfs.img installed over the top of the old one is not usable. end result 'system is now unbootable'   what now ?
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> O_O
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> little high
[02:33] <Nyle> I had to take the heatsink off and rebuff the copper, and use arctic silver and I brought it down to 70C~ish
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not really a hardcore gamer, i love my lil 7600
[02:33] <Nyle> I'm not hardcore
[02:33] <Nyle> I just play oblivion
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> AS5 is the best thing since sliced bread
[02:33] <Nyle> dude
[02:33] <Nyle> sliced bread isn't that great
[02:33] <Nyle> whats so great about sliced bread?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i know, it's a nice saying though.
[02:33] <Nyle> you have a loaf of bread, and you have a knife
[02:34] <Nyle> slice the friggin thing eh
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> forget all the great inventions in the past 2000 years
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> sliced bread  this is what it all comes down to?
[02:34] <Nyle> lol
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> carlin :)
[02:34] <Nyle> Its a george carlin joke
[02:34] <Nyle> word!
[02:34] <word> NOOOO
[02:35] <Nyle> word: omg!
[02:35] <Nyle> I didn't know you were an ubuntu user
[02:35] <Nyle> whats up buddy long time no see
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Nyle, did you get this  latest driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases... 8.38.6
[02:35] <Nyle> BluesKaj: well I download the ati driver, ran the binary, installed the driver, modified xorg.conf and now I'm trying to figure out if i need to install any other packages or not
[02:35] <Nyle> there were no errors
[02:36] <Nyle> so I think everything worked fine, lets just restart X and find out eh
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Pssst
[02:36] <Nyle> but before that, I'm doing a dist-upgrade
[02:36] <K-Ryan> I'm installing Kubuntu on another computer and it's been a while
[02:36] <K-Ryan> If I want a specific boot partition what do I type in for the mount point
[02:36] <K-Ryan> in step 5
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Nyle, does fgl_glxgears run ok
[02:37] <intelikey> K-Ryan /boot
[02:37] <K-Ryan> Right, thanks
[02:37] <Nyle> BluesKaj: dunno
[02:37] <Nyle> BluesKaj: I have not restarted X with fglrx yet
[02:37] <word> Nyle i have no idea who you are
[02:37] <Nyle> still on vesa
[02:37] <Nyle> word: from #hardware man
[02:37] <Nyle> I'm stoned
[02:37] <word> oooo
[02:37] <Nyle> :)
[02:37] <word> OOOOO
[02:37] <Nyle> ;D
[02:37] <word> scary
[02:37] <Daisuke_Ido> settle down...
[02:38] <Darkrift> anyone here use vmware to run xp?
[02:38] <word> stoned eats babies!
[02:38] <Nyle> get in ma belly!
[02:38] <graff> alguem fala portugues
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> there's always #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <BluesKaj> !pt
[02:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:39] <Nyle> man this core2duo cpu is hot
[02:39] <Nyle> blazing fast man
[02:39] <Nyle> hey I just apt getted upgraded and it download all 3.5.6 packages of kde
[02:40] <Nyle> what gives, I want 3.5.7
[02:40] <Nyle> do i need specific kubuntu repository or the ubuntu ones for 7.04 are not good?
[02:40] <Nyle> whats going on
[02:41] <Nyle> !kde
[02:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[02:41] <chalabera> what's the java plug in for Mozilla? I think I'ev installed the wrong one  .../j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[02:41] <chalabera> sorry this one j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[02:41] <intelikey> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:42] <chalabera> that's not wahat I am talking about
[02:42] <chalabera> I am talkin about the firefox java plugin
[02:43] <intelikey> no boot,    can't boot,   hung boot.   !
[02:44] <intelikey> who cares,   who knows,    why bother   !
[02:45] <intelikey> and BTW,  it seems that there is one constant,  "you reap what others have sown..."
[02:46] <BluesKaj> here's the debs for kde357 : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[02:47] <rustalot> how do I tell kontact to use my GPG key?
[02:48] <chalabera> woot
[02:48] <chalabera> I've got java webstart 1.4 and java 6 web start
[02:48] <Nyle> BluesKaj: thank you
[02:49] <Nyle> These packages are not well supported.??
[02:49] <Nyle> 3.5.7 is not stable?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> mine works fine
[02:51] <jhutchins> Nyle: It's a lot of work, and the devs are focusing on the next kubuntu instead of backporting every increment of KDE.
[02:51] <jhutchins> Mine works with a couple of bugs I need to file.
[02:51] <quinton_> alright
[02:52] <quinton_> I put in the sudo you gave me
[02:52] <quinton_> it said
[02:52] <quinton_> OK
[02:53] <quinton_> -.-''
[02:55] <quinton_> ?
[03:00] <chalabera> hi
[03:00] <chalabera> nobody likes koffice? Is it in development or not?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Room's awfully quiet...
[03:01] <TrueFX> hi guys
[03:01] <theurs_> it crashes often
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Anyone know why the Kubuntu installer would hang at 6% on "Completely removed ntfsprogs" ?
[03:01] <TrueFX> how can i aget all the .txt files in a remote http server
[03:01] <TrueFX> ?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> TrueFX, ssh?
[03:01] <TrueFX> i wnat to dl www.ietf.org/rfc/*.txt
[03:02] <TrueFX> ?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Oh, download them
[03:02] <TrueFX> yep to dl all of them?
[03:02] <TrueFX> how can i do that?
[03:02] <TrueFX> http://ietf.org/rfc/*.txt
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Not sure
[03:02] <TrueFX> ?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Wait around though
[03:03] <chalabera> theurs_: was that answer to me?
[03:03] <NickPresta> I tried to edit my partition table with QTparted found on the Edgy LiveCD. This appears to have messed up my partition table (I tried to resize my extended partition, which appears to have failed), and GRUB is throwing error 17. I already attempted to use the grub shell to restore GRUB but I still get error 17. Any help is appreciated.
[03:03] <chalabera> I was asking if koffice is being in development or not
[03:03] <chalabera> NickPresta: next time use LVM
[03:04] <NickPresta> !lvm
[03:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:04] <chalabera> NickPresta: in fact, this is a good lesson to start with LVM
[03:04] <theurs_> koffice is nice but it unstable
[03:04] <chalabera> NickPresta: just put EVERYTHING inside lvm except for /boot. Also root --> /
[03:05] <chalabera> theurs_: oh man, how long it'll take to make it stable?
[03:05] <theurs_> use openofice
[03:07] <NickPresta> chalabera: "root on LV should be used by advanced users only". While I can see from the LVM website, the benefits are vast, I am in need of my system now. I will read up on LVM and make the apropriate changes. Right now, I would appreciated it if you had any tips on getting back my system without using LVM.
[03:09] <chalabera> NickPresta: root on LVM is just as any other LVM partition, just set the mount point to / that's all
[03:09] <chalabera> NickPresta: I don't know who started spreading FUD about root in LVM
[03:10] <chalabera> NickPresta: besides Ubuntu isntallation handles this automatically. I've installed several Ubuntus with LVM and I put root in LVM everytimg
[03:10] <chalabera> time
[03:12] <NickPresta> chalabera: I understand. I consider myself fairly knowledgable and able to learn but I'venever come across this problem with GRUB before and I don't really understand what my options are, short of using the grub shell to "setup" grub on /dev/sda5. I read somewhere that my partition tables could be incorrect, where can I view them?
[03:12] <alejandro> holac
[03:13] <alejandro> Makeda
[03:13] <chalabera> NickPresta: use live cd and mount them
[03:14] <NickPresta> well, I can mount the partitions just fine. Apparently, error 17 means that GRUB thinks whichever partition it's trying to boot from isn't bootable. I thought I could manually edit the partition table and set the boot flag on /dev/sda5 (my root partition)
[03:16] <NickPresta> after reading some more, would, in the grub shell, using "chainloader +1", "makeactive", and "boot" on my "root (hd0,4)" solve my problem?
[03:18] <chalabera> what is it m$$$ XP?
[03:18] <NickPresta> microsoft XP is my other operating system installed
[03:18] <chalabera> which one is giving you the error
[03:19] <NickPresta> what do you mean?
[03:19] <NickPresta> when I start my computer, it loads grub which gives me the option to boot into kubuntu or windows
[03:20] <NickPresta> allow me to reboot and try this. I shall be back..
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> chalabera: MS.  there's no need to use $$$ in the name.  it's implied already
[03:23] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: who has established that there's no need? I will always forever say m$$$
[03:23] <chalabera> I mean you ain't gonna tell how to talk
[03:24] <chalabera> this is what pisses me off, Linux users believing they are higher 'cause they DON'T say m$$ and actually get mad when ppl say m$$$
[03:25] <chalabera> I wonder who was the moron who started this thing, cause I've encountered this behaviour in several rooms
[03:25] <chalabera> !mplayer
[03:25] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[03:25] <chalabera> !codecs
[03:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <chalabera> BluesKaj: they need to be reminded how pathetic is pretending being higher with their politically correct "Microsoft XP(tm)"
[03:30] <BluesKaj> we don't appreciate useles MS bashing here , some ppl just like to , is all
[03:30] <kamui> M$ sucks
[03:31] <kamui> no amount of M$ bashing is useless
[03:31] <chalabera> exactly!!!
[03:33] <chalabera> kamui: you know what, I get computers to fix and people complain they are slow and is not working correct. Guess what 100% of them with XP BENT OUTTA SHAPE.Just outrageous how such a company is cashing in on a crappy software that isn't supposed to do the stuff is supposed to do for the ppl. So I resort to wiping it out and install linux :'-)
[03:35] <cuadrocg> hola como estan??
[03:36] <chalabera> callate gilipollas
[03:36] <cuadrocg> jajaja
[03:36] <cuadrocg> pinche we
[03:36] <cuadrocg> k verga quieres _
[03:36] <barkeeri> can some one help me
[03:36] <chalabera> no soy marica patooo!!
[03:36] <barkeeri> english anyone?
[03:36] <cuadrocg> pos lo pareces por lo rosita
[03:37] <BluesKaj> !es | cuadrocg
[03:37] <ubotu> cuadrocg: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:42] <barkeeri> helllllo
[03:42] <barkeeri> can someone help me
[03:43] <BluesKaj> barkeeri, just ask yer question
[03:44] <SHOKER> HOLA
[03:44] <chalabera> is there a package to play Real Player files? I don't wanna install Real Player at all
[03:45] <stdin> chalabera: then you'd need the w32codecs package I think
[03:45] <BluesKaj> helix
[03:45] <stdin> chalabera: it's not in the standard repos
[03:45] <stdin> !w32codecs
[03:45] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:45] <chalabera> stdin: got it already
[03:45] <chalabera> from medibuntu
[03:46] <barkeeri> new to this whole linux, how do i install programs
[03:46] <barkeeri> like aol i have dl it but how to i get it to run a wizard
[03:46] <chalabera> oh my god!! I didn't install ffmpeg o.O
[03:46] <stdin> !apt
[03:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:46] <stdin> !adept
[03:46] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:46] <BluesKaj> !helix
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <chalabera> still I don't trust helix
[03:47] <chalabera> shady move by RealPlayer
[03:47] <chalabera> is it FULLY open source?
[03:47] <stdin> helix is
[03:48] <stdin> but it doesn't have rtsp support and the like
[03:48] <stdin> I don't think anyway
[03:50] <BluesKaj> i don't use it ...just know that it's supposed to be realclone
[03:50] <kamui> :)
[03:51] <chalabera> mm... linux is gonna have a problem playing Blu-Ray, is there a decrypter program out there? An ubuntu package for that matter
[03:51] <chalabera> never mind
[03:51] <chalabera> I found the link already
[03:55] <santims> hello, i was wondering if there was a need for a Virus Scanner while using ubuntu????
[03:57] <stdin> sabakas1: no, you don't need one, and there isn't one anyway
[03:57] <chalabera> is it better using ALSA or ARTS, I forgot where bu I heard that KDE was discontinuing ARTS in favor of ALSA?
[03:57] <stdin> sabakas1: only one that scans windows files for windows viruses
[03:57] <stdin> chalabera: you seem a bit confused, aRts uses ALSA
[03:58] <Nyle> alsa is better
[03:58] <Nyle> arts is very very slow
[03:58] <Nyle> it lags majorly
[03:58] <Nyle> you are better off using alsa+dmix
[03:58] <Nyle> forget about arts unless you need the kde sounds to work
[03:59] <admin___> i need room in spanush
[03:59] <Nyle> and even then you can specify alsaplayer instead of kde to play those sounds
[03:59] <stdin> !es | admin___
[03:59] <ubotu> admin___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:59] <chalabera> Nyle: what about jack?
[03:59] <Nyle> very good
[03:59] <Nyle> jack is the shiznit
[03:59] <chalabera> okis
[03:59] <NickPresta> chalabera, it turned out to be a: root (hd0, 4) and setup (hd0) solved my grub issue
[03:59] <Nyle> infact latest versions of alsa have software mixing enabled by default
[03:59] <NickPresta> now that I am back in my system. I'm interested in LVm, chalabera
[03:59] <NickPresta> LVM*
[04:00] <chalabera> hha ha good
[04:01] <chalabera> !jack
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Nyle> !jackd
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jackd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <hero> !snes9x
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snes9x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <hero> hm
[04:03] <stdin> kde4 will be using phonon to replace aRts
[04:04] <chalabera> and how is phonon based on
[04:05] <paknefia> hi
[04:05] <paknefia> salam
[04:06] <stdin> chalabera: it all uses ALSA, if it's not OSS, it's ALSA
[04:07] <chalabera> can't wait for KDE4!!!
[04:07] <stdin> Alpha2 came out recently
[04:07] <paknefia> any body know what must i use to detecting new hardware in ubuntu?
[04:07] <stdin> there is a Live-CD out, with PLASMA!
[04:08] <stdin> paknefia: nothing, it's detected by the kernel at boot
[04:08] <stdin> paknefia: or by HAL/DBUS
[04:08] <chalabera> stdin: w00t where!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:08] <chalabera> I wanna donwload RIGHt NOW
[04:09] <stdin> chalabera: I'll get you a link
[04:09] <stdin> chalabera: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/3.91.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.2.iso
[04:09] <paknefia> my case is, i added new hot plug hard drive to my server
[04:09] <stdin> chalabera: it's an OpenSUSE based Live-CD
[04:10] <paknefia> and i dont want reboot my server
[04:10] <stdin> paknefia: try just restarting hal and dbus "/etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[04:10] <paknefia> ok..
[04:12] <stdin> chalabera: open akregator and you'll be subscribed to the KDE Dot News blog that announces the releases
[04:12] <kristjan_> stdin: I tried it some time ago, it didn't work
[04:13] <stdin> kristjan_: what, the alpha2 cd?
[04:13] <paknefia> stdin: no hal or dbus in my /etc/init.d/
[04:13] <chalabera> kmplayer isn't working properly with firefox, and I have to isntall mozilla-mplayer and in turn this one installs mplayer when I already have kmplayer
[04:13] <chalabera> wtf??
[04:13] <paknefia> should i install them first?
[04:13] <chalabera> stdin: I hope KDE4 will beat O$$ X Leopard
[04:14] <stdin> chalabera: target release date is in october
[04:14] <chalabera> same as Leopard
[04:14] <Nyle> how do I configure my sound in kubuntu? There is no alsaconf utility
[04:14] <chalabera> stdin: you got the link?
[04:14] <stdin> paknefia: make sure you have dbus and hal installed then
[04:14] <kristjan_> stdin: yeah it was alpha. not usable for end-user
[04:15] <nimble> I thought leopard was supposed to be released pretty soon.
[04:15] <stdin> kristjan_: Alpha2 was only released on the 4th
[04:16] <stdin> chalabera: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[04:16] <chalabera> stdin: no, the LiveCD
[04:16] <stdin> chalabera: I gave you the link
[04:17] <stdin> chalabera: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/3.91.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.2.iso
[04:17] <kristjan_> stdin: oh. then I will give it a try!
[04:17] <Nyle> hmm
[04:17] <Nyle> anyone?
[04:17] <Nyle> !sound
[04:17] <kristjan_> bot is dead?
[04:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:17] <stdin> kristjan_: it's not exactly stable, but it just about works :P and you get a preview of plasma and Amarok 2
[04:19] <chalabera> yikes!!! are there better fonts than sarif?
[04:19] <jasj_> hi
[04:19] <chalabera> sarif it's an eyesore on LCD
[04:20] <Tired_1> Does compiz/beryl work in Kubuntu Gutsy? Which packages are needed?
[04:20] <jasj_> i have a problem with keep my password(web) in the knetworkmanager program
[04:20] <stdin> Tired_1: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:20] <Nyle> I turned arts off
[04:20] <Nyle> and now my sound works
[04:20] <jasj_> knetworkmanager
[04:20] <Tired_1> OK, thanks
[04:21] <jasj_> I  have a problem with keep my password(web) in the knetworkmanager program
[04:21] <stdin> knetworkmanager keeps your password in kwallel
[04:21] <stdin> *kwallet
[04:21] <Nyle> fglrx doesn't support composite or aiglx etc.  Is there any possible way to run beryl or compiz?
[04:21] <Nyle> do there exist Xgl on ubuntu, because its not packaged for debian
[04:21] <stdin> Nyle: use XGL
[04:21] <jasj_> YES, BUT KWALLET NEED OTHER PASSWORD
[04:21] <stdin> !caps | jasj_
[04:21] <ubotu> jasj_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:22] <Nyle> do ubuntu developers get paid?
[04:22] <stdin> jasj_: you set the password for kwallet, you could set it to blank too
[04:22] <stdin> Nyle: some do, some don't
[04:22] <jasj_> i hate kwallet, i unistall about 2 minutes ago
[04:22] <Nyle> kwallet is the beesnees
[04:22] <Nyle> I love it
[04:23] <jasj_> but you need to write a password when yo login...
[04:24] <Nyle> oh shit
[04:24] <Nyle> er.. I mean
[04:24] <Nyle> oh thats right, my ssh keys got wiped
[04:25] <jasj_> yes, but???
[04:25] <stdin> jasj_: like I said, you could have set it to be blank
[04:25] <jasj_> really, i can't
[04:25] <stdin> you could have, I did
[04:26] <stdin> if you didn't then you'd have to delete the wallet and start over
[04:26] <jasj_> i try when i uodate my kubuntu, but .... i cant
[04:26] <jasj_> ok
[04:26] <stdin> or just put the wep key in system settings
[04:27] <jasj_> how??
[04:28] <jasj_> okoko i did
[04:28] <jasj_> tanks
[04:28] <stdin> system settings -> Network Settings ->
[04:28] <stdin> put in the web key and SSID
[04:32] <Nyle> is there a w32codecs package in ubuntu?
[04:32] <Nyle> I migrated from debian and I dunno where half the things in ubuntu are
[04:32] <ardchoille> !info w32codecs
[04:32] <ubotu> w32codecs: Win32 codec binaries. In component extras, is optional. Version 20061022-1~seveas1 (feisty-seveas), package size 13920 kB, installed size 33580 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:32] <crimsun> no, there isn't.
[04:33] <crimsun> you can use a third-party repository, however.
[04:33] <Nyle> if I just get them from debian-multimedia it would work?
[04:33] <crimsun> probably.
[04:33] <Minataku> crimsun: Don't split pubes and confuse people :P
[04:33] <stdin> Nyle: yeah, it's all the same stuff
[04:33] <Nyle> word
[04:33] <Minataku> Nyle: w32codecs is available from !seveas
[04:33] <Nyle> thanks
[04:33] <Nyle> !seveas
[04:33] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:33] <ardchoille> Nyle: It's not a good idea to use packages from other distros
[04:34] <Minataku> Which will probably be far easier and less troublesome to do
[04:34] <Minataku> While *buntu is based on Debian I'm apt to doubt the differences are 100% compatible
[04:34] <Nyle> ardchoille: w32codecs are just binary codecs which get unpacked in /usr/lib/w32 etc.
[04:34] <stdin>  /usr/lib/codes actually
[04:35] <ardchoille> Nyle: It doesn't mater, it's best to stick with packages that were built for ubuntu
[04:35] <Nyle> ardchoille: yes
[04:39] <Nyle> fetching w32codecs now
[04:39] <Nyle> is kmplayer based on mplayer?
[04:39] <Nyle> I don't care what media player I use, I just need one where I can rewind/forward using mousewheel
[04:39] <Nyle> mplayer usually has these bindings in by default for mouse btns
[04:40] <Nyle> do you guys know of another player with similar functionality?
[04:40] <stdin> I just use standard mplayer
[04:40] <ardchoille> mplayer is q nice bit of kit, hard to find a better one.
[04:41] <stdin> VLC isn't bad too
[04:41] <stdin> ohh, and VLC from SVN uses Qt!!
[04:41] <ardchoille> vlc doesn't support closed captions
[04:43] <Nyle> I'll stick with mplayer
[04:43] <Nyle> I moved from debian, so my ~ contains all my configs from it
[04:44] <Nyle> hopefully I wouldn't have to configure anything in mplayer it should read my settings from ~/
[04:44] <jasj__> hi i reinstall my kwallet application, but i can not change the password, wath i have to do??
[04:44] <jasj__> tanks
[04:45] <stdin> jasj__: delete the wallet in kwalletmanager
[04:45] <ramy> hello
[04:45] <ramy> how i can connect to another server by konversation
[04:45] <ramy> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
[04:45] <theurs_> !smplayer
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <stdin> ramy: F7
[04:46] <Nyle> sweet
[04:46] <ramy> i have to know the host name ?
[04:46] <ramy> i want to get firstly the list of servers ?
[04:47] <stdin> that's not in konvi
[04:47] <Minataku>      
[04:47] <Minataku> Well, some may
[04:47] <stdin> you can add a list to the server list (F2)
[04:47] <Nyle> what the shit?
[04:47] <Minataku> Not too likely in my experience, though
[04:47] <jasj__> ok i write in run comman kwalletmanager and the png change but, when I press intro, do not happen any thing
[04:47] <Nyle> Minataku: wth
[04:47] <nimble> Doesnt look like a nice font anyway really.
[04:48] <stdin> jasj__: look in the system tray
[04:48] <Nyle> Terminus ftw
[04:48] <Minataku> nimble: It's probably whatever junk Kubuntu defaults to when substituting
[04:48] <jasj__> yes i saw tanks ainga
[04:48] <jasj__> again
[04:48] <Minataku> It's fullwidth characters
[04:48] <nimble> Ah.
[04:49] <jasj__> perfect, tanks nyle
[04:51] <Nyle> terminus is the shizboo
[04:51] <Minataku> 
[04:51] <Nyle> so is DejaVu Serif Condensed
[04:51] <Nyle> I can't live without these two fonts
[04:51] <Nyle> and kwin-baghira pwnz
[04:51] <NickPresta> Bitstream Vera Mono = my love. ;)
[04:53] <Nyle> 
[04:53] <Nyle> ahh its backwards
[04:53] <Nyle> :(
[04:53] <Nyle> how do I make my language go fro right to left
[04:54] <Nyle>  is what I speak :D
[04:54] <Nyle> sweet, utf kicks bytt
[04:56] <Minataku> testing, hahaha!
[04:56] <Minataku> RLO - Right-to-Left Override
[04:56] <Morkai> anyone in here use beryl ?
[04:57] <Minataku> 
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> Morkai: used to, whats the prob?
[05:00] <Morkai> sorry, ok i fixed my problem heh
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:01] <Morkai> i didn't know wherea setting was, so i waso n google when i asked
[05:01] <Morkai> two times the help i figure :P
[05:01] <Morkai> thanks for offering though heh
[05:01] <Morkai> just installed it and enjoying the awesomeness
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> quiet tonight...
[05:09] <klobster> too quiet for the girls
[05:09] <klobster> hey what are the gnome packages I need to run gnome junk in KDE?
[05:10] <stdin> klobster: just install the gnome/gtk app and it's dependencies will be installed too
[05:11] <klobster> I got this msg so I wasn't sure...
[05:11] <klobster> (gst-compprep-0.8:6374): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libhttp.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libhttp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[05:12] <stdin> klobster: ahh, that's gnome-vfs, the equivalent of kio-slaves
[05:12] <K-Ryan> Psssst
[05:12] <klobster> K-ryan, I think you sprung a leak
[05:13] <K-Ryan> =)
[05:13] <K-Ryan> I installed Kubuntu just now, well a few hours ago on an old hard drive.
[05:13] <K-Ryan> It's there, except I'm having quite some trouble
[05:13] <K-Ryan> Now, there was trouble getting Kubuntu to boot off the Live CD so I took the hard drive, put it in a different computer and installed it on the hard drive in the other computer.
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Took the hard drive out and put it in the computer I want it in.
[05:14] <klobster> stdin: is it something I should avoid installing?
[05:14] <K-Ryan> It started coming up with I/O buffer errors
[05:14] <K-Ryan> So I had it ignore, then rewrite
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Over and over and over
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Then more stuff
[05:14] <K-Ryan> over and over and over
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Now this time it looked like it was booting okay
[05:14] <stdin> klobster: no, you could even have both gnome and kde installed at the same time
[05:15] <Minataku> You can have a ton of WMs/DEs all at once
[05:15] <K-Ryan> It went to the terminal for a split second then to the kubuntu loading splash screen
[05:15] <stdin> K-Ryan: looks like there may be PFUs on the drive
[05:15] <K-Ryan> And it's hanging there
[05:15] <K-Ryan> PFU?
[05:15] <stdin> K-Ryan: Physical F*** Ups
[05:15] <stdin> :p
[05:15] <stdin> bad sectors and the like
[05:16] <K-Ryan> =(
[05:16] <stdin> that's normally what I/O errors are about
[05:16] <Minataku> What are the errors?
[05:17] <K-Ryan> I don't know, I don't see them now
[05:17] <Minataku> Give them here, they should have descriptions
[05:17] <Minataku> Look in dmesg
[05:17] <Minataku> They're saved there
[05:17] <K-Ryan> I can't look anywhere
[05:17] <K-Ryan> It's hanging at the loading thing
[05:18] <chipbuddy> so i'm using ubuntu... but that channel is hella crowded... and this kubuntu channel is cooler anyway.
[05:18] <chipbuddy> i just got 2 monitors working by editing xorg.conf, but beryl doesn't want to work anymore
[05:19] <klobster> not cool enough to run KDE :(
[05:19] <stdin> chipbuddy: best place to ask about dual monitors + beryl is in #beryl
[05:19] <chipbuddy> thanks stdin
[05:20] <stdin> maybe when I get a stable X I'll try beryl with multiple displays
[05:28] <Minataku> ---------------
[05:43] <makuseru> hi, i have a HP DVD Writer, and it burns CDs fine, and it reads DVDs fine, but  when ever i try to burn a DVD it wont do it, it just gives me errors. Ive tried K3B, Nero For Linux, and a few other programs, what could be causing this?
[05:45] <K-Ryan> The DVDs are good?
[05:47] <makuseru> the blanks i have?
[05:47] <chalabera> how can i receive Yahoo mail in Kontact?
[05:47] <chalabera> thanks
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Yeah the blanks, they're good right?
[05:47] <makuseru> yes
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Strange, I'm not good with that stuff though, sorry
[05:48] <makuseru> brand new memorex dvds+r
[05:48] <theurs_> show errors
[05:48] <makuseru> i dont remember what they were, ill need to try to burn one again
[05:48] <makuseru> ill do that now
[05:48] <Minataku> Hm
[05:48] <chalabera> can I recieve mail from AOL, Yahoo and Hotmail with Kontact?
[05:49] <Minataku> makuseru: Which HP?
[05:49] <makuseru> lemme check
[05:49] <Minataku> I've got a DVD740, last I tried to use it, it failed entirely, Linux refused to access ut
[05:49] <Minataku> *it
[05:49] <makuseru> dvd writer dvd200i
[05:49] <Minataku> though that's probably something stupid I did
[05:49] <Minataku> Ah
[05:50] <Minataku> On the plus side, the internal CD burner works
[05:50] <Minataku> So I haven't tried to fix it yet
[05:50] <Minataku> XD
[05:50] <makuseru> mine burns CDs fine too
[05:51] <makuseru> its a dvd 200j not i
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: should support any pop3/imap acct, if it has mail functionality
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> !info kontact
[05:52] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 1596 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[05:52] <Nyle> wow
[05:52] <Nyle> I like kubuntu
[05:52] <Nyle> I tried 5 and 6
[05:52] <Nyle> but 7.04 is bomb
[05:52] <Minataku> I've got a NetBSD/sgimips machine running :3
[05:53] <Minataku> How many of you can say that!?
[05:53] <Minataku> Sorry... I'm bored
[05:53] <Nyle> I've got two sparcs
[05:53] <Minataku> What kind?
[05:53] <Nyle> old old old
[05:53] <stdin> the BSDs are insane
[05:53] <Nyle> this guy i knew from cyberarmy
[05:53] <Minataku> BTW, those aren't sgimips but cool anyway
[05:53] <Nyle> he sold it to me at college
[05:53] <Minataku> Nice
[05:53] <Minataku> Nyle: Got 'em nearby? I'd love to know what kind
[05:54] <Minataku> I've got the following: SPARCstation 5/170, SPARCstation 10, Ultra 1, Ultra 2, Ultra 5
[05:54] <Minataku> I also have in waiting a SPARCstation 2 and a SPARCbook 3GX
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> BSD is actual Unix ported to the PC vice a clone written from scratch, so it will be a little more intensive :P
[05:54] <Nyle> they are in my attic
[05:55] <Minataku> Current BSDs have no AT&T code
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> really? i thought they still had that in there....
[05:55] <Minataku> Actually, the modern BSDs are forked from 386BSD
[05:55] <Minataku> Which was a BSD clone, IINM
[05:55] <Minataku> Well, it may have been a port
[05:55] <Minataku> I'm not quite sure
[05:55] <stdin> depends if the AT&T code is under the BSD license
[05:55] <Minataku> But yeah, the open source BSDs are devoid of USL code
[05:56] <Minataku> USL being Unix Systems Laboratories
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> i thought the original BSD was basically a Unix port for academia, which is why the license is like it is
[05:57] <Minataku> The original BSD was based off of 6th Edition Unix
[05:57] <Minataku> Which was acquired under educational license by UCB from AT&T/Bell Labs
[05:57] <Nyle> Minataku: ultra5 sparc
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> but to be fair, I really don't know much on the subject
[05:57] <Nyle> IIi
[05:57] <Minataku> Nyle: Not bad
[05:58] <Minataku> Yeah, the cheapo Suns used the UltraSPARC-IIi modules
[05:58] <Minataku> The cheapo ones being the Ultra 5 and Ultra 10
[05:58] <Nyle> I bought it for 50 bucks
[05:58] <Minataku> Not too bad
[05:58] <Minataku> Considering it's original worth was 100x that
[05:59] <Minataku> My Ultra 5 was donated to me free of charge
[05:59] <Nyle> well
[05:59] <Nyle> I also have 3 blue leviathans
[05:59] <Nyle> 3 alpha black lotus cards
[05:59] <Minataku> ??
[05:59] <Nyle> and some other rare MTG cards
[05:59] <Nyle> magic the gathering
[05:59] <Minataku> lol
[05:59] <Nyle> :D
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> ok, for a minute there, i thought i was WAY out of my league :P
[06:00] <Minataku> Yeah, he changed topic all of a sudden XD
[06:00] <Minataku> Confused the hell outta me
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> i was actually thinking the blue leviathon was some sort of obscure refence to IBM iron :)
[06:02] <Minataku> Heh, same
[06:02] <makuseru> i have a DVD burning now so i can see errors
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: if its generating a log file, that helps as well, so you can dig through it later
[06:05] <makuseru> does K3B do that?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: i would think so
[06:07] <makuseru> where
[06:07] <makuseru> does it put it
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> not sure, hold on...
[06:07] <makuseru> alright
[06:09] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28755/ error report from K3B
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, probably with the project...
[06:10] <klobster> whay cant I have totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at the same time?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> looks like it can't write to the disk for some reason
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: or even access it...
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: can you try with cdrecord by itself?
[06:12] <chalabera> I hate java apps
[06:12] <chalabera> they are glitchy as hell
[06:13] <chalabera> why code on that crap of language?
[06:13] <TheSource> hey i just installed kubuntu
[06:13] <TheSource> no clue how to install java
[06:13] <TheSource> for firefox
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> it used to be the only distributed language avilable
[06:13] <stdin> TheSource: install "sun-java6-plugin"
[06:13] <TheSource> ahhhh
[06:13] <chalabera> OOPS, your java version is too old [java = 1.4.2-02] 
[06:13] <chalabera> oh ok
[06:13] <chalabera> I know now why it wasn't working
[06:14] <stdin> chalabera: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:14] <makuseru> hitmanWilly: what is cdrecord?
[06:14] <stdin> chalabera: then do "java -version" to check
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: its a cmd line tool to burn cds,
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> !info cdrecord
[06:15] <ubotu> cdrecord: Dummy transition package for wodim. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[06:15] <makuseru> how would i use it to try to burn a cd?
[06:15] <chalabera> stdin: thanks it worked
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: cdrecord --help should give a list of options
[06:16] <makuseru> alright
[06:17] <chalabera> hey I wonde why Java apps take insanely ammounts of RAM?
[06:18] <stdin> because it's java
[06:20] <pfein> I've lost (quit) the little systray applet that tells me my battery level... how do I get it back?
[06:20] <stdin> try running "guidance-power-manager"
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Right click on the panel, use the add applet thang?
[06:23] <stdin> it's not an applet
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> i don't understand why anybody would use java anymore, with python available
[06:23] <stdin> "as such"
[06:24] <saucisson> bye bye everyone :D
[06:24] <Dr_willis> because they understand java , and dont know python. :)
[06:24] <saucisson> ciao
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I dont know either very well.. so i'll use REXX !
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> that's probably it, but python has a pretty shallow learning curve
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> oh well
[06:25] <pfein> stdin: yeah, that was it
[06:26] <pfein> stdin: yeah, that was it
[06:26] <stdin> echo... echo....
[06:27] <pfein> stdin: yeah, it's not in the add applet thing, or any menu.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> the whole 'OOP' type programing stuff.. eludes me. :) I learned programing on a C64 ages ago.. with flowcharts and GOTO's!
[06:28] <chalabera> ok his is retarded, Kmail is not installed as default in Kubuntu? What else KDE4 is being chopped off?
[06:28] <theurs_> why not use gmail web
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> theurs_: cause some of us don't have gmail accts :P
[06:29] <makuseru> hitmanWilly: i dont understand how to use that
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soon to be renamed perhaps somthing OTHER then gmail. :)
[06:29] <pfein> stdin: #kde suggested kpowersave, what's the diff?
[06:29] <stdin> gmail = google mail
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, don't worry about it then, i think k3b is a frontend for it anyway
[06:30] <klobster> I use gmail IN kmail...
[06:30] <makuseru> well what can i do to burn a DVD?
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: have you tried running k3b with kdesu to make sure it isn't a perms issue?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  i use k3b
[06:30] <stdin> pfein: kpowersave is a different app alltogether, guidence is a backend, so works on ubuntu and kubuntu etc
[06:31] <makuseru> i havent tried that
[06:31] <makuseru> ill try now
[06:31] <pfein> stdin: yeah... any preference for one or the other?
[06:32] <stdin> pfein: I just use guidance, does what I need it to do
[06:32] <stdin> pfein: but k powersave shares a lot of the same features
[06:32] <stdin> and it may even tie in with KDE better, not sure
[06:33] <stdin> btw, expect longer battery life in Gutsy with the tickless kernel
[06:34] <K`zan> Hi folks, adept hung and I had to kill it and now it still thinks it is running (even after a reboot), I looked at /var/lock and nothing there - any suggestions on how to clear this appreciated!
[06:34] <K`zan> l .kde
[06:34] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[06:35] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:35] <pfein> stdin: thanks
[06:35] <ubuntu> trying out ubunto live cd.. however, I've found I can't direct connect with msger
[06:35] <K`zan> dpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments
[06:35] <stdin> K`zan: if that fails, remove the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:36] <THEBlack0rchid> how can I direct connect via IM
[06:36] <K`zan> stdin: Worked, thank you Sir!  Now to see if I can install vmware-server without it hanging.
[06:37] <K-Ryan> THEBlack0rchid: It depends on the program, if the program can direct connect.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> THEBlack0rchid,  clarify what you are trying to do and with what programs
[06:37] <THEBlack0rchid> just using Konversation right now.. I don't see the option in that
[06:38] <Dr_willis> the various 'dcc' items do direct connections/chat/shares/transfers
[06:38] <THEBlack0rchid> what program will allow me (under ubunto) to direct connect with an AIM user
[06:38] <Dr_willis> But i havent used them in ages.
[06:38] <Dr_willis> AIM - is another story
[06:38] <Dr_willis> !aim
[06:38] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:38] <K-Ryan> Dunno about DCing
[06:38] <THEBlack0rchid> I guess I didn't see the option under kopete to dcc
[06:38] <K-Ryan> There isn't one is there?
[06:39] <THEBlack0rchid> not that I've seennn
[06:39] <THEBlack0rchid> seen
[06:39] <Dr_willis> No idea. I use Xchat. :)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> i havent dcc'd in ages
[06:39] <makuseru> same error using kdesu k3b
[06:39] <THEBlack0rchid> I use xchat for IRC usually..
[06:40] <THEBlack0rchid> but.. I need a dcc for an AIM user
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> does /dcc work?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> then you need an AIM client.. not irc.
[06:40] <THEBlack0rchid> nope.. the other user is under trillian
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Wine + AIM?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> gaim is nice i hear.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> i dont use aim much either. :)
[06:40] <makuseru> gaim is nice
[06:40] <Dr_willis> All the Cool Kids hang out on IRC>
[06:40] <THEBlack0rchid> I don't ever use AIm
[06:41] <makuseru> what do i do about my DVD Burner?
[06:41] <THEBlack0rchid> ok.. so gaim should do a dcc with an AIM user/trillian?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: it sounds like maybe a HW issue
[06:41] <makuseru> THEBlack0rchid: yes, it does
[06:41] <makuseru> HW?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> hardware
[06:41] <makuseru> ah
[06:41] <THEBlack0rchid> k.. thank you sweetie
[06:41] <makuseru> but why would it burn a cd fine, and read a dvd fine but not burn a dvd?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> dosent dvd's use differnet laser? or am i confused.
[06:42] <makuseru> do they?
[06:42] <makuseru> i dont know
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I had a CD writer once that could read, but not write.
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, stupid question here, but it IS a dvd burner, correct?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I was thinking one of its lasers went out.
[06:42] <makuseru> yes
[06:42] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  :)
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> hey, you laugh...
[06:42] <makuseru> it says DVD Writer DVD 200j on the front of ir
[06:43] <Dr_willis> they are DVD+R and you dont need -R's ?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> or visa-versa
[06:43] <makuseru> they are +R
[06:43] <makuseru> ive tried -R's too though
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Got some old drives ehre that can only do -R's
[06:43] <makuseru> this is fairly new
[06:43] <K-Ryan> -R? +R? What's the difference?
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: different encoding formats
[06:44] <K-Ryan> I honestly had no idea what it meant
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Really
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I got a few old laptops that cant read +R's
[06:44] <makuseru> me either
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Main Diff to me is 'what one is on sale this week'
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <makuseru> would a hammer fix it
[06:44] <makuseru> it fixes everything else
[06:45] <makuseru> sortof
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, im at a loss here, you may try googling the drive to see if there are any known issues under nix
[06:45] <makuseru> it makes me feel better
[06:45] <chalabera> hi
[06:45] <chalabera> it's telling me "no cddb found"
[06:45] <chalabera> k3b
[06:45] <chalabera> how do I donwload that?
[06:45] <makuseru> i think im just going to give up on it, the whole computer is a p.o.s, i need a new one
[06:46] <Dr_willis>  cddb - isent that the database for music files?
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> yup
[06:46] <Dr_willis> just use a shell-based front end to cdrecord! :0
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !find cdrecord
[06:46] <chalabera> Dr_willis: yeah but how do I download it?
[06:46] <ubotu> Found: cdrecord
[06:46] <chalabera> k3b is complaining about it
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Ahahahahaaha
[06:46] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[06:46] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: its not something you download, its looks up cd info in it when you go to rip it
[06:47] <Dr_willis> you ripping a cd? or burning one?
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: its a VERY large online database
[06:47] <chalabera> ripping it
[06:48] <Dr_willis> set up the cddb settings properly.. Or use some other ripper tool. :) I tend to use 'grip' myself.
[06:48] <chalabera> it won't rip without the database?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> ive never ripped a cd with k3b. Lets see.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> It access the online database,, to get the proper names/tracks/info
[06:48] <makuseru> i like kaffine for ripping
[06:48] <Dr_willis> If its a non-comercial cd. it may not be in the database
[06:49] <chalabera> ok i use kaffeine
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !find k3bmp3
[06:49] <ubotu> Package/file k3bmp3 does not exist in feisty
[06:49] <Dr_willis> infolibk3b2-mp3
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !infolibk3b2-mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infolibk3b2-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: ok, go into settings --> configure k3b --> cddb --> remote --> enable remote cddb queries
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Would anybody happen to have any computer worth sending my way? =)
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: and make sure you have an entry in the server list
[06:51] <chalabera> kaffeine found the CDDB just fine
[06:51] <K-Ryan> *computers
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: k3b probably isn't set up right, try those menu settings i listed
[06:52] <Dr_willis> k3b here - is set by default to use the cddb stuff..
[06:52] <Dr_willis> odd.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:52] <klobster> what is the diff between sum and cksum?
[06:52] <chalabera> It is already enabled in k3b
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, weird
[06:54] <chalabera> what's a kewl superkaramba for sys info?
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> oh well, later all
[06:56] <Delphinus> 1 handed (left only) typing... dvorak or half qwerty?
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> heyo, got a couple of problems here...
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> When I boot up, I get an error, "Truncating file to 0 bytes", every time, and something about bogus file sectors
[07:01] <K-Ryan> purpleposeidon: The chat is a little empty at the moment so it might take longer to get a response.
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I'd help but I don't know what to do about something like that, sorry
[07:01] <purpleposeidon> eh, well I have a vague suspicion of fsck....
[07:03] <jbraddoc> Okay I have a few questions, I think the easiest way is to just ask... 1: When I ran the term app on kubuntu, it froze x and restarted it. and 2: When I have x set at a resolution above 800x600 I get four or five columns going through my screen (lines that seem to seperate). The sys is a pIII 700 (i think) compaq deskpro en with 256 mb, 10 gb, intel chipset.
[07:03] <jbraddoc> hrmm
[07:03] <jbraddoc> whopps.. my mistake -- i forgot something
[07:03] <jbraddoc> I am not using K on this machine.. I am using Xubuntu...
[07:03] <jbraddoc> forget my q's unless anyone can help?
[07:04] <jbraddoc> Sorry, I have another machine running K..
[07:04] <jbraddoc> I was thinking of that one, working on the other one, and confused my self.
[07:05] <chalabera> why is taking so slow ripping it? m$$ player does it faster
[07:15] <sajacjr> list
[07:15] <sajacjr> exit
 why is taking so slow ripping it? m$$ player does it faster < so use windows and quit whining about it?
[07:31] <jzilla> whats the thing called that tries to restore your previous session by launching whatever you had open before you reboot
[07:38] <Ayabara> I'm looking for a lightweight desktop search tool that I forgot the name of. KDE app that you use from Konqueror. Anyone got a name for it? :-)
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Katapult
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Oh, use from Konqueror
[07:39] <K-Ryan> No clue
[07:40] <MarcC> beagle KIOSlave?
[07:40] <MarcC> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=28437
[07:41] <MarcC> ah, Ayabara, or this: http://kioclucene.objectis.net/
[07:42] <SRN9> Anyone know how to fix an Apt-get issue?
[07:42] <MarcC> SRN9: try me
[07:42] <Ayabara> MarcC, K-Ryan, thanks for input. I stumbled over it at google. Strigi was the one I was looking for :-)
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Ah, glad you found what you were looking for
[07:43] <MarcC> dang, ok :D
[07:43] <SRN9> well I have an issue here I try to "Apt-get update" and i get an error that points to "cannot connect to local machine" I know this is my machine it is talking about but how would I go about correcting this issue?
[07:44] <SRN9> streegee?
[07:44] <MarcC> SRN9: sounds like a correction needs to be made in sources.list
[07:44] <MarcC> to point to network resources instead of CD maybe
[07:44] <MarcC> btw hard G or soft G
[07:45] <K-Ryan> str-eye-gee
[07:45] <K-Ryan> hard
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Is how I'd say it
[07:45] <MarcC> gee as in "jeeeez" or gee as in "guh-eeee"
[07:45] <K-Ryan> jee
[07:46] <MarcC> that's like one of those things you use to clean your car's windshield
[07:46] <MarcC> ;)
[07:47] <K-Ryan> squeegee
[07:47] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:48] <MarcC> ah right :D
[07:48] <Ayabara> hehe. have you guys read "The meaning of Liff"?
[07:49] <Ayabara> hehe, have you guys scanned "The meaning of Liff"?
[07:50] <MarcC> nope
[07:52] <Ayabara> you should :-)
[07:52] <MarcC> well maybe I will
[07:53] <MarcC> hey, that's a pretty cool idea, I'm liking it
[08:03] <Black_Monkey> Ayabara: was that the one by Douglas Adams?
[08:06] <Ivis> hi, i know this is not right chanel to ask but i need a help please.... i need a people who listen dj tiesto
[08:07] <MarcC> try "man dj-tiesto"
[08:08] <K-Ryan> lvis: PvD > Tiesto
[08:08] <K-Ryan> AvB > Tiesto
[08:08] <Ivis> :D
[08:09] <K-Ryan> Corsten > Tiesto
[08:09] <MarcC> Random artist from Archive.org > Tiesto
[08:09] <K-Ryan> lol
[08:09] <K-Ryan> What about Tiesto?
[08:09] <MarcC> Tiesto > Tiesto
[08:10] <MarcC> http://www.archive.org/details/BEVLARS31
[08:10] <Ivis> i need one song but i don't know hes name i remember sing "tell me how u fill" and thats all but i want that song tooo much
[08:10] <SRN9> well Im back... it was the anon package... seems to be working.
[08:10] <K-Ryan> I was talking to lvis =P
[08:10] <MarcC> I must improve my strength
[08:10] <MarcC> SRN9: cool :)
[08:10] <K-Ryan> lvis: No idea, sorry
[08:10] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  ohh ok thanks anyway
[08:10] <MarcC> Ivis: thanks though, that's the funniest thing I've read all day
[08:10] <MarcC> but no idea
[08:11] <Ivis> MarcC,  my english is wery bad im now study english
[08:11] <MarcC> Ivis: I understand, you should listen to my Japanese sometime
[08:11] <K-Ryan> "<coz_> morning all" "<K-Ryan> GOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!"
[08:11] <K-Ryan> =)
[08:11] <Ivis> Japanese songs? o_O
[08:12] <MarcC> sure Ivis, I do enka covers on a clarinet all the time
[08:12] <Ivis> ohh ok but i don't understand :D
[08:13] <K-Ryan> It's just one of those things lvis, don't worry about it
[08:13] <MarcC> hooooreta, ooomae ni horetaaaaa
[08:13] <MarcC> etc.
[08:13] <Ivis> :)
[08:14] <Ivis> ohh i got one question if my friend is totaly newbie in linux it's good if i set up him edubuntu?
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic
[08:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:14] <MarcC> !moderators
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moderators - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <K-Ryan> lvis: edubuntu is geared for students, not new people to linux
[08:15] <MarcC> moderators, do you speak it?
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: It's quiet in here, give us a break =P
[08:15] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  ohh i think is for new
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Nope, for a new person just give 'em Kubuntu or Ubuntu, whichever he likes more
[08:15] <Ivis> ok :) thx for info
[08:16] <Ivis> i hear somthing abaout 7.10 version
[08:16] <MarcC> Ivis: if a Windows user, Puppy Linux is also good, but Ubuntu works great
[08:16] <Ivis> do u know somthing?
[08:16] <chalabera> hi
[08:16] <Ivis> MarcC,  Puppy with desktop he use?
[08:17] <chalabera> what's that note making program for KDE?
[08:17] <K-Ryan> kate?
[08:17] <chalabera> is like something else than knote
[08:17] <K-Ryan> nano?
[08:17] <MarcC> Ivis: default is Rox
[08:17] <MarcC> with JVM
[08:17] <MarcC> or JWM
[08:17] <Ivis> MarcC,  thanks i find in google about puppy
[08:17] <MarcC> chalabera: basket notepads?
[08:17] <alucardromero> Heh.
[08:17] <Ivis> its cool for new
[08:17] <Ivis> people i think
[08:17] <alucardromero> Goodness...lots of people.
[08:18] <MarcC> Ivis: if you try Puppy, don't install it to the HD - it runs off the CD and doesn't use the CD motor much
[08:18] <curiosityKILLEDm> hi Alu
[08:18] <alucardromero> Hiyee. :)
[08:18] <curiosityKILLEDm> hello everyone
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Howdy
[08:18] <curiosityKILLEDm> :P
[08:19] <MarcC> !longintroductions
[08:19] <MarcC> dang
[08:19] <Ivis> MarcC,  i need to set up to my friend hee is windows user but when he see my linux  he want to try he doesn't knows whats its terminal and i search somthing easy for him to first steps
[08:20] <MarcC> Ivis: Puppy is a good one, it has many "wizards" to easily setup the network, sound, etc.
[08:20] <MarcC> Ivis: but I don't know about non-English if you need that
[08:21] <alucardromero> That's what it seems like.
[08:21] <Ivis> MarcC,  thanks em.... how to install there a soft? via terminal package?are he has a add/remove
[08:22] <Ivis> ore mybe he has somthing like sudo apitude
[08:22] <makuseru> !libxml
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <makuseru> !libxml2
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <MarcC> Ivis: there is a "dot pup package manager" and there are lots of "dot pup" packages available at the puppy forum
[08:24] <Ivis> MarcC,  it's great!!! thanks
[08:24] <MarcC> Ivis: no problemo
[08:24] <Ivis> it's perfect to my friend i hope all my friends go smarter and use Linux :)
[08:26] <Ivis> my dream is Gentoo but its too hard to me now
[08:28] <MarcC> Ivis: my dream in 1996 was to install Linux with X-windows working ;)
[08:28] <Ivis> ohh u are old user
[08:28] <MarcC> in 2004 I discovered that I just needed to configure my monitor xD
[08:28] <Ivis> cool
[08:28] <Ivis> i use linux 5 month
[08:29] <Ivis> and i knows somthing about linux was created by Linus torvalds 1984 year think
[08:29] <MarcC> Ivis: excellent, glad to hear you enjoy it
[08:29] <Ivis> :)
[08:29] <MarcC> night
[08:29] <Ivis> MarcC,  u use kubuntu?
[08:29] <MarcC> yes :)
[08:30] <MarcC> going to bed now, good night/guten nacht/etc.
[08:30] <Ivis> ohh
[08:30] <Ivis> bye
[08:33] <K-Ryan> !jwm
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <K-Ryan> !jvm
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <makuseru> hi, i was trying to 'make' somthing and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found" so i did a "sudo apt-get install libxml-2.0" and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found", how can i get this package?
[08:34] <K-Ryan> it wouldn't say "required by 'compiz-cube', not found"
[08:35] <makuseru> K-Ryan: it does
[08:35] <K-Ryan> Guess I never noticed that or something
[08:35] <Ivis> what was year when linux was created ?
[08:35] <Ivis> 1984
[08:35] <Ivis> ?
[08:35] <K-Ryan> I get a plain old
[08:35] <K-Ryan> E: Couldn't find package libxml-2.0
[08:36] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28762/ look at like 5
[08:36] <makuseru> line*
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Hah
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Wow
[08:37] <K-Ryan> Oh whoa whoa whoa
[08:37] <K-Ryan> I thought you meant it said that after typing in sudo apt-get
[08:37] <K-Ryan> !info libxml-2.0
[08:37] <ubotu> Package libxml-2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:37] <makuseru> no
[08:37] <K-Ryan> My bad ;)
[08:37] <makuseru> no prob
[08:38] <makuseru> do you know what i can do to fix it
[08:38] <makuseru> haha
[08:38] <K-Ryan> It's not something wrong
[08:38] <K-Ryan> I can't get it either
[08:38] <K-Ryan> I just dunno where you can get it
[08:44] <twosouls82> makuseru: it is called libxml2
[08:44] <twosouls82> !info libxml2
[08:44] <ubotu> libxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 742 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[08:44] <makuseru> its not that
[08:44] <makuseru> i have that
[08:45] <twosouls82> I meant K-Ryan, my bad
[08:45] <K-Ryan> I did it for him twosouls82 =P
[08:45] <K-Ryan> How do I check uptime?
[08:46] <twosouls82> K-Ryan: using "uptime" at the terminal
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Wow
[08:46] <K-Ryan> <3 Linux
[08:46] <twosouls82> :)
[08:47] <K-Ryan> I need a Tux shirt or something
[08:47] <twosouls82> and a KDE cap, right?
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Ehh...
[08:47] <K-Ryan> I'm not crazy about KDE
[08:47] <twosouls82> omg
[08:47] <K-Ryan> It's alright
[08:48] <K-Ryan> I just happen to like Fluxbox more =)
[08:48] <K-Ryan> For now anyway
[08:48] <twosouls82> I might someday
[08:49] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[08:49] <twosouls82> hehehe
[08:49] <K-Ryan> restart x and you're good to go
[08:49] <K-Ryan> that simple
[08:49] <K-Ryan> try it ;)
[08:49] <K-Ryan> I love it
[08:49] <Ivis> K-Ryan, u use kubuntu?
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Just remember that right click on the desktop opens your app menu
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Yes lvis
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Well not even app menu, but your whole menu thing
[08:50] <Ivis> ohh i think u use somthing like gentoo if u know a lot linux :)
[08:50] <K-Ryan> I know enough to get me through most things
[08:51] <K-Ryan> But I'm still rather new
[08:51] <Ivis> :)
[08:51] <K-Ryan> Been around for 8-9 months
[08:51] <Ivis> in linux world?
[08:51] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[08:51] <K-Ryan> So Gentoo is still beyond my reach
[08:51] <K-Ryan> I'm learning at my leisure
[08:51] <Ivis> me 5 month it's bad to all info is in english i bad know im study eng
[08:52] <K-Ryan> They have stuff in other languages
[08:52] <makuseru> K-Ryan: why do you like gentoo so much?
[08:52] <K-Ryan> I don't like/dislike it
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Never tried it, barely know what it's like
[08:52] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  yea i know in my langue have info but that info is worse
[08:52] <K-Ryan> lvis: what's your primary language?
[08:52] <Ivis> Latvian
[08:52] <makuseru> K-Ryan: Gentoo < Ubuntu
[08:52] <K-Ryan> =P
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Latvian, you're the first I've met to speak it.
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Your English is decent though, I commend you on that
[08:53] <makuseru> K-Ryan: do you have any eyecandy insalled?
[08:53] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  :)
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Well in KDE I've got Beryl
[08:53] <makuseru> why beryl?
[08:53] <makuseru> thats old
[08:54] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  i don't understand a this  English is decent though, I commend you on that
[08:54] <Ivis> =/
[08:54] <K-Ryan> You speak English very well, congratulations =P
[08:54] <K-Ryan> makuseru: What would you suggest?
[08:54] <Ivis> Thanks :)
[08:55] <makuseru> compiz-fusion
[08:55] <K-Ryan> !compiz
[08:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:56] <K-Ryan> XGL, isn't that for Ati cards?
[08:56] <makuseru> no
[08:56] <makuseru> not compi
[08:56] <makuseru> x
[08:56] <makuseru> compiz*
[08:56] <makuseru> compiz is old too
[08:56] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  one time i install gentoo i think it's easy but when i see the instalation i be shocked i install the system but in 5 min i set up ubuntu :D
[08:56] <makuseru> compiz-fusion is the new project by both beryl and compiz's old teams
[08:56] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[08:57] <makuseru> and no fglrx is for ATI
[08:57] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  do u try gentoo?
[08:57] <K-Ryan> Nope
[08:57] <K-Ryan> Started with Kubuntu and stuck with it
[08:58] <Ivis> :)
[08:58] <Ivis> my first linux be slackware
[08:58] <Ivis> imho
[08:58] <Ivis> all go to source
[08:58] <Ivis> worse distr
[09:01] <Ivis> i start my own http://ivo-opensource.blogspot.com/ project to help people who has bad english to latvians
[09:01] <Ivis> :)
[09:02] <K-Ryan> Cool
[09:02] <K-Ryan> I just took a look
[09:02] <K-Ryan> I don't speak Latvian, but I could tell what some stuff was
[09:02] <K-Ryan> Most of it actually...
[09:03] <Ivis> :)
[09:03] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  from where are u?
[09:03] <K-Ryan> New York, USA
[09:04] <Ivis> ohh cool i love that city my dream is fly to New York it's most bee cool live in new york :)
[09:04] <K-Ryan> Well I don't live in New York City
[09:04] <K-Ryan> But I go in every once in a while
[09:04] <K-Ryan> It's nice
[09:05] <Ivis> :) cool latvia is so small country
[09:06] <Ivis> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/eplive/expert/photo/20061123PHT00260/pict_20061123PHT00260.jpg
[09:06] <Ivis> latvias "LAT"
[09:06] <Ivis> Latvia is
[09:06] <Ivis> :)
[09:06] <Ivis> small
[09:10] <K-Ryan> Ah there it is
[09:10] <K-Ryan> I knew it was in that general area
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Well it's late here, 3am
[09:11] <K-Ryan> I'm out, night everyone
[09:13] <Ivis> good night
[09:13] <Ivis> :)
[09:18] <kain> anyone here know how to make a wireless router the hub of another?
[09:19] <dvm> how to install
[09:19] <dvm> the "Mozilla XPCOM development package"
[09:19] <dvm> regards
[09:19] <dvm> Zoobave
[09:19] <dvm> http://zoobave.blogspot.com/
[09:22] <dvm> how to install the "Mozilla XPCOM development package" using apt-get
[09:25] <GaryvdM> I want to install a how lot of packages that were downloaded and installed by adept on one machine on another machine. Can this be done?
[09:25] <GaryvdM> *whole
[09:32] <waylandbill> GaryvdM: burn the downloaded packages to cd and place them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:32] <GaryvdM> Sweet - that is cool
[09:32] <GaryvdM> Thanks
[09:34] <Ivis> GaryvdM,  u add rapsoritors via "kate"?
[09:34] <GaryvdM> yes
[09:40] <Ryaren> hi!
[09:41] <edward0> is there any site any one would sudgest for grasping/utilizing the commandline
[09:44] <Ryaren> !format
[09:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:44] <dvm>  howto start kudzu in ubuntu?
[09:45] <_4strO> yop
[09:54] <dvm>  how can i scan the hardware changes in ubuntu?
[09:54] <aznpridechinese> how do i enable dapper universe?
[09:55] <pag> aznpridechinese, do you know how to edit sources.list?
[09:55] <aznpridechinese> no
[09:56] <aznpridechinese> what does sources.list do? is it just a list of repositories?
[09:56] <pag> aznpridechinese, you can open it in kate byt pressing alt+F2 and typing kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <pag> aznpridechinese, yup. just a list.
[09:56] <pag> !easysources | aznpridechinese
[09:56] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:57] <aznpridechinese> but what is dapper?
[09:58] <aznpridechinese> oh! is it an earlier version or ubuntu?
[09:58] <pag> aznpridechinese, what do you mean? Dapper is an Ubuntu version with long term support, if that's what you meant.
[09:58] <aznpridechinese> yah i didn't know what dapper was, cuz on this page it tells me to enable dapper universe or something
[09:59] <pag> and yes, it's older than Feisty (newest stable)
[10:18] <waylandbill> !dapper
[10:18] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:31] <Lynoure> I just installed network-manager-vpnc and restarted knetworkmanager. Now it shows VPN Connections -> Configure VPN... but clicking on it does nothing
[10:32] <Lynoure> How can I get it to work? I'm also ok with cli vpn as long as I don't need to give up knetworkmanager, but cli vpnc would connect and then die/close within 4 minutes, so I thought to try this.
[10:46] <Lynoure> ok, let's phrase it diffently... Does anyone get vpnc to connect and stay connected for over a minute?
[10:49] <dwangoac> I need to remove \n but not \n\r (i.e. newlines at the end of a line of text, but not paragraph breaks).
[11:02] <spark_> hi
[11:07] <kernco> How can I have multiple programs play sounds at the same time?
[11:08] <spark_> if you use alsa as your sound server it should be implemted native kernco
[11:09] <kernco> I'm using whatever is default in Kubuntu (I installed clean from Kubuntu CD, didn't install Ubuntu then kubunt-desktop)
[11:10] <kernco> It might only be certain programs that monopolize the sound system
[11:10] <kernco> The Second Life client, for example
[11:11] <kernco> It worked in Ubuntu with esound, maybe I should install that.  But then there's sound latency.
[11:23] <okay> hi
[11:24] <spark_> hoi
[11:30] <boguh> hi, where can i find cd/dvd covers for kubuntu. would like to print one on my copy
[11:30] <schoappied> test123
[11:32] <Lynoure> How can I keep vpnc from disconnecting every 30s?
[11:33] <arek> test
[11:35] <arek> alibaba
[11:35] <arek> sorry
[11:36] <arek> bye
[11:37] <Arthea> Hello
[11:37] <Arthea> i'm getting this error when trying to open an ntfs partition that should be mounted
[11:37] <Arthea> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 1000
[11:41] <Arthea> no one can help me ?
[11:42] <Arthea> i'm getting this error when trying to open an ntfs partition that should be mounted hal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 1000
[11:43] <xerosis> Arthea: is it in your /etc/fstab?
[11:44] <Arthea> not sure,haven't checked
[11:44] <Arthea> but permissions should be set ...and still on some i get permission denied,and on other that error
[11:45] <goldfingermafia> hello
[11:46] <Arthea> it should be there ?
[11:46] <Arthea> and if not what should i do ? (<--- noob just trying it )
[11:47] <pag> !fstab | Arthea
[11:47] <ubotu> Arthea: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:47] <pag> bot doesn't seem to work :-/
[11:47] <pag> oh... :)
[11:47] <Arthea> i don't have a supported modem so all i do is switching between windows and ubuntu
[11:47] <goldfingermafia> can anyone help me i am trying to install kismet on a macbook and having a major porblem when i run the ./configure command
[11:48] <pag> goldfingermafia, what kind of problem?
[11:48] <goldfingermafia> it says canon find libncurses or libcurses
[11:48] <Arthea> so i can't even download the updates/progs with windows then move them to ubuntu since i can't access them
[11:48] <pag> goldfingermafia, do you have those installed?
[11:49] <goldfingermafia> i have no clue what im doing, im a new linux user, how do i install them?
[11:50] <pag> goldfingermafia, well.. first you should probably install build-essential  (open konsole, and type: sudo apt-get install build-essential   )
[11:50] <pag> goldfingermafia, or you can use Adept Manager to do the installations
[11:51] <goldfingermafia> i alrady did that
[11:51] <goldfingermafia> when i run that though it says 4 not upgraded? how do i upgrade them
[11:52] <pag> goldfingermafia, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:53] <pag> goldfingermafia, and to solve those libncurses -issues you should probably install libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev
[11:54] <goldfingermafia> pag ty for you help. im going to try thoses out, im running th first one right now and if you still on i will let you know what happend, ty very much
[11:54] <pag> goldfingermafia, you're welcome :)
[11:57] <StFS> hello... is anyone experiencing major unstability with firefox?
[12:03] <goldfingermafia_> peg are you still on?
[12:03] <goldfingermafia_> was it libcurses5-dev?
[12:05] <pag> goldfingermafia_, libncurses5-dev
[12:05] <goldfingermafia_> thank you sorry for buggin you
[12:06] <pag> goldfingermafia_, no problems :)
[12:07] <goldfingermafia_> it worked!
[12:07] <pag> goldfingermafia_, I'm glad to hear that :)
[12:09] <goldfingermafia_> when i tyrped make install it got an error saying it was not in root?
[12:09] <skullAttack> you need to run the command as root
[12:09] <skullAttack> prefix the command with sudo
[12:09] <fssssssssssh> can anyone advise me a good multimessenger? kopete doesnt work for me
[12:09] <goldfingermafia_> how do i do that, im the biggest noob in the world
[12:09] <skullAttack> ok. are you in a terminal?
[12:10] <skullAttack> ok sorry bad question. firstly, what are you trying to do?
[12:10] <pag> fssssssssssh, well.. Gaim / Pidgin is GTK-client, but I've heard it works pretty well
[12:10] <goldfingermafia_> skull in trying to install kismet on ubuntu
[12:10] <skullAttack> fsssssssssssh, also - aMSN is another good one
[12:11] <skullAttack> it has webcam support too ;)
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> thx pag
[12:11] <goldfingermafia_> i put sudo infron and it failed
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> thx skullAttack =)
[12:11] <skullAttack> np
[12:11] <skullAttack> so, are you using the Synaptic Package manager?
[12:11] <skullAttack> or are you doing it from a "DOS looking" type command line
[12:12] <goldfingermafia_> it says cannot remove '/usr/local/bin/kismet': premission denied
[12:12] <goldfingermafia_> im doing it fomr the command
[12:12] <skullAttack> ok
[12:12] <pag> goldfingermafia_, oh... I didn't remember that Kismet has packages in repositories - why not use them?
[12:12] <pag> !info kismet
[12:12] <skullAttack> you are trying to install kimset?
[12:12] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[12:12] <goldfingermafia_> yes
[12:13] <skullAttack> ok
[12:13] <ubuntu_> Nabend ^ :)
[12:13] <skullAttack> in the console. type - sudo apt-get install kimset
[12:13] <skullAttack> if its in the software repository it should install
[12:14] <motu> Ich hab ein Problem beim installieren ... ich hab jetzt von CD gestartet, aber mir wird meine Festplatte nicht angezeigt... was kann ich tun?
[12:14] <skullAttack> ittl ask you for a password, which is the password you use to log into the system with your account
[12:14] <pag> !de | motu
[12:14] <ubotu> motu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:14] <goldfingermafia_> i alrady did that it says i ahve the newest version
[12:14] <goldfingermafia_> i was on the make, then make install part
[12:14] <skullAttack> well then its installed ;)
[12:14] <goldfingermafia_> that is when it failed
[12:15] <goldfingermafia_> if it is installed then were do i find it?? lol
[12:15] <skullAttack> in console, type kimset
[12:15] <skullAttack> and press enter
[12:16] <goldfingermafia_> ok when i do that is says failed beacuse i dont have a vailed user for suiduser
[12:16] <goldfingermafia_> or osmething like that
[12:16] <pag> goldfingermafia_, try with sudo   ( sudo kismet )
[12:17] <goldfingermafia_> same error
[12:17] <goldfingermafia_> it says FATAL could not find user'your_user_here' for droppin priviledges
[12:19] <ndb> wenas
[12:19] <ndb> alguien me puede ayudar?
[12:19] <pag> !es | ndb
[12:19] <ubotu> ndb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:20] <goldfingermafia> sorry guys this thing keeps going dead on me
[12:20] <skullAttack> I cant help you much past this stage sorry goldfingermafia. Im not familiar with the kimset program
[12:21] <goldfingermafia> do you knwo what a vaild user set for suiduser means?
[12:21] <skullAttack> hm. im not sure, but at a guess id say that your account isnt properly set up to run commands as Super User
[12:22] <goldfingermafia> ok will tahnks a bunch skull
[12:22] <skullAttack> np
[12:23] <drif> people got any tips to get kubuntu 7.04 server to boot up on my acer aspire 5110? hangs at hardware detection stage
[12:23] <skullAttack> what spec is the system?
[12:24] <drif> skull: asking me?
[12:24] <skullAttack> yes
[12:25] <drif> AMF Turion 64 x2 TL-50, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, SATA HDD - how specific you need?
[12:25] <drif> AMD
[12:25] <drif> :D
[12:25] <skullAttack> k
[12:25] <skullAttack> i have a friend who had problems with a Turion
[12:26] <skullAttack> try downloading the Alternate version
[12:26] <drif> only system I've got to boot up has been knoppix, but only in failsafe-mode
[12:26] <skullAttack> that usually gets around lots of problems
[12:26] <skullAttack> right. well, if i were you, id google it. turion and kubuntu
[12:27] <drif> believe me I've googled - I tend to find things out myself first before hassling anyone else
[12:27] <skullAttack> good man!
[12:28] <skullAttack> and you've tried the alt version of the kubuntu image?
[12:29] <drif> skull: nope, that I haven't tried yet - wasn't actually sure (aware) there would be much difference
[12:29] <skullAttack> it has helped a few of my colleagues who had problems with hardware compatibility
[12:29] <skullAttack> so i would reccomend trying it, no promises though ;)
[12:30] <drif> skull: yup, already booting up that laptop.. although windows so I can fetch that alt one
[12:30] <skullAttack> hehe ok
[12:31] <drif> skull: and I better google again as well ;) it was way past 4am when I last did it..
[12:32] <skullAttack> heh
[12:32] <skullAttack> yeah try being as specific as possible if it yields nothing useful
[12:34] <drif> skull: only bumped into things such as idle=poll and tried those 'no' keywords under knoppix..but no cigar - some people had used chroot and updated few packages via yum (under FC) to get things working..so alt could very well be the solution
[12:34] <skullAttack> hm, i think ill try getting an install of kubuntu working on my powerbook this afternoon
[12:36] <skullAttack> heh, thats a bit over my head. but yeah, alt might be the ticket
[12:37] <NastX> hi
[12:37] <ax1s> hey
[12:37] <ax1s> how do i add new  window themes :/
[12:38] <ax1s> i'm in kcontrol
[12:38] <ax1s> but i can add a style
[12:38] <ax1s> can't
[12:38] <NastX> i have a problem with the x server
[12:38] <ax1s> what's wrong with it
[12:38] <ax1s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:38] <NastX> after the installation of the nvidia driver my card tries to control my monitor with 85 hz
[12:38] <skullAttack> ax1s go to www.kde-look.org
[12:38] <ax1s> oh
[12:39] <NastX> but it allows only 60 hz
[12:39] <skullAttack> ok
[12:39] <ax1s> skull: ya
[12:39] <ax1s> oh
[12:39] <ax1s> i can use theme-manager themese only eh
[12:39] <ax1s> not regular kde styles
[12:39] <skullAttack> NastX - you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:39] <skullAttack> sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <ax1s> [06:38]  <ax1s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <NastX> i know but this dowsnt mmake a difference=(
[12:40] <ax1s> uhm
[12:40] <ax1s> nasty
[12:40] <NastX> doesnt
[12:40] <NastX> ?
[12:40] <ax1s> have you gone into sudo nvidia-settings
[12:40] <skullAttack> you can edit your xorg.conf file manually if you wish
[12:40] <NastX> nope
[12:40] <ax1s> nastx: run nvidia-settings to change resolution/etc
[12:40] <ax1s> after install drivers
[12:40] <skullAttack> sudo nvidia-settings
[12:40] <NastX> i know but thjere is the maximum frequncy at 60
[12:40] <goldfingermafia> thanks again for everyones help see you all later
[12:40] <skullAttack> (so that you can save your changes to xorg.conf ;))
[12:41] <skullAttack> np dude, bye bye
[12:41] <ax1s> nastX; run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first
[12:41] <oohal> NastX, i take it your monitor does not support a refresh rate of 85Hz?
[12:41] <ax1s> before running sudo nvidia-settings
[12:41] <skullAttack> oohal: that is correct
[12:42] <oohal> well, the nvidia drivers shouldn't be affecting the refresh rate at all, mind posting your xorg.conf somewhere?
[12:42] <ax1s> install driver, if it works but the settings are wack, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it up manually, you man have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf after and replace nv with nvidia
[12:43] <skullAttack> id say on the whole youd really just want to run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:43] <skullAttack> as that will avoid confusion
[12:44] <oohal> you do know that the automatic detection sucks?
[12:44] <skullAttack> it gives you a interface to select settings - the monitor settings are at teh end of the program i think. then it saves to your xorg.conf file
[12:44] <skullAttack> you dont have to auto. you can do manual
[12:44] <oohal> easier to edit xorg.conf directly
[12:44] <skullAttack> in the manual monitor setup you specify its size and then the refresh rates
[12:44] <skullAttack> yeah, if you are familiar with it
[12:45] <skullAttack> assuming the user is green, the above method is easier to work with
[12:45] <oohal> it's not particularly difficult to tell what does what
[12:45] <ax1s> wow
[12:45] <ax1s> i'm going to lose it
[12:45] <oohal> meh, anyone using xinerama?
[12:45] <skullAttack> i was. but i found it lame with my screen setup
[12:46] <skullAttack> i want a setup like the one in Windoze - desktop extension, not spanning
[12:46] <skullAttack> couldnt find a way of doing it in nvidia-settings tho
[12:46] <ax1s> why can't i add just a style
[12:46] <skullAttack> sorry ax1s
[12:46] <oohal> well, i like it, but it makes xrandr crash
[12:46] <skullAttack> yeah i foudn that
[12:47] <oohal> and the monitor section of the system settings crash
[12:47] <oohal> oh well
[12:47] <ax1s> i'm gonna drop ubuntu altogether because of theme management
[12:47] <skullAttack> still very bleeding edge
[12:47] <ax1s> and how they've fucked kcontrol up so badly
[12:47] <ax1s> this is terrible
[12:47] <skullAttack> you in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:47] <oohal> kubuntu
[12:47] <ax1s> kubuntu
[12:47] <oohal> GNOME makes babies cry...
[12:48] <ax1s> wow thankyou theme for changing my colours but not the style
[12:48] <ax1s> like why did they go out of their way to remove the add style button
[12:48] <ax1s> ??????
[12:48] <ax1s> makes absolutely no sense
[12:48] <skullAttack> go to system settings > appearence
[12:49] <skullAttack> then click style (on the vertical bar on the left)
[12:49] <ax1s> yah
[12:49] <ax1s> i see some defaults
[12:49] <ax1s> i don't see an add style button tho
[12:49] <ax1s> i see configure
 yeah, if you are familiar with it <- nope sry^^
[12:50] <skahead> hello is there any command to refresh the usb mediums??
[12:51] <skullAttack> yeah i think its a case of downloading a style and putting it into a folder
[12:51] <skullAttack> 1 mo plz ax1s
[12:52] <skullAttack> NastX - use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:52] <skullAttack> when it comes to monitor settings, dont choose the automatic, do it manually
[12:53] <ax1s> omg
[12:53] <ax1s> i can't add window decorations
[12:53] <NastX> mhhh ok
[12:53] <ax1s> or styles
[12:53] <ax1s> WTF
[12:53] <skullAttack> ax1s if you want a really pimping desktop - check out beryl
[12:53] <ax1s> i want basic KDE functionality
[12:53] <ax1s> not animated windows
[12:53] <skullAttack> kk
[12:54] <ax1s> lol
[12:54] <ax1s> this is rediclour
[12:54] <ax1s> rediculous
[12:55] <skullAttack> ax1s if you go to kde-look.org and go to the forums
[12:55] <skullAttack> there is bound to be a how to there
[12:56] <ax1s> yeah
[12:56] <ax1s> i'm there now
[12:56] <ax1s> hahaha
[12:56] <ax1s> i'm just a greedy mother
[12:56] <ax1s> they have to be ./installable
[12:57] <ax1s> Take note that styles come in source code or binary package forms. They are not KDE theme files.
[12:57] <skullAttack> in ./installable ?
[12:57] <aznpridechinese> i need help!
[12:57] <ax1s> aznpridechinese STATE YOUR PROBLEM
[12:58] <skullAttack> ax1s: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=9
[12:58] <aznpridechinese> i'm trying to install beryl glx ontop of kde using the instructions on this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL, i'm getting stuck at downgrading beryl-core from 0.2.1 to 0.2.0, i update the sources.list but i gives me the error when i use synpatics once i start the downgrading process synaptics gives me this error
[12:58] <aznpridechinese> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/feisty/main/0.2.0/beryl-core_0.2.0~0beryl1_i386.deb
[12:58] <aznpridechinese>   404 Not Found
[12:59] <pag> !beryl | aznpridechinese
[12:59] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:59] <aznpridechinese> i am already in that room but they don't talk!
[12:59] <aznpridechinese> been in there for 2 hours and nobody has said a single word
[12:59] <ax1s> aznprincess: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[01:00] <ax1s> follow those guides
[01:00] <aznpridechinese> does it matter that i'm using kubuntu?
[01:00] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese
[01:00] <skullAttack> no
[01:01] <ax1s> not at all
[01:01] <ax1s> s'all good
[01:01] <skullAttack> do you have a Nvidia card or an ATI card?
[01:01] <aznpridechinese> cool
[01:01] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: nvidia or ati graphics card?
[01:03] <ax1s> eh aznpride
[01:03] <ax1s> ati or nvidia
[01:03] <skullAttack> lol
[01:03] <ax1s> good 2 go
[01:03] <ax1s> and i have new styles
[01:03] <ax1s> woot
[01:04] <ax1s> now i gotta change my colours back tho
[01:04] <ax1s> gonna save them this time
[01:04] <ax1s> ahahahah
[01:04] <ax1s> hi zhangkai
[01:05] <zhangkai> hi
[01:05] <zhangkai> axls
[01:06] <skullAttack> heh nice one ax1s
[01:07] <dev__> hi
[01:07] <skullAttack> woot, just  foudn that the TAB button auto-complete thing works on nicks on Konversation :D
[01:07] <ax1s> skullAttack: ha
[01:07] <skullAttack> ax1s: did that URL help?
[01:10] <danya> Can anyone helo !? .. I have been trying to install flash player 9
[01:11] <danya> and when I finally knew how to do it by unpacking the tar.gz file I got the following error
[01:11] <danya> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[01:11] <danya>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[01:11] <ax1s> hahaha
[01:11] <ax1s> brootal 64 bit
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> cool thanks whoever gave me that link it worked!
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> beryl is finally installed and working!
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> but now how do i change to different themes? or where can i download themes and install them?
[01:12] <ax1s> danya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[01:12] <soc> hi
[01:13] <ax1s> aznpride: awesome .. sec
[01:13] <rrichie> hi everyone
[01:13] <soc> is there already a kubuntu build of kde 4 alpha 2?
[01:13] <ax1s> aznpride: http://www.beryl-themes.org
[01:13] <ax1s> soc: i'm curious myself
[01:13] <rrichie> i have the same question of soc
[01:13] <soc> kubuntu.com was quite fast in the past with such things ...
[01:14] <ax1s> i thought kde4 was coming out with 7.04
[01:14] <ax1s> :/
[01:15] <TheInfinity> kde4 is at alpha2 release
[01:15] <ax1s> found it
[01:15] <soc> really?
[01:15] <ax1s> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[01:15] <soc> thats alpha 1
[01:15] <TheInfinity> and alpha releases are NOT for productive systems
[01:15] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: when you installed beryl, it should have also installed emerald theme mangager
[01:15] <soc> i have enough non-productive systems :-)
[01:15] <ax1s> theinfinity: anything other then LTS is good for production? heh
[01:15] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: if you right click the red "beryl" stone in your taskbar (by the clock), click emerald theme manager
[01:16] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: you can also change beryls settings by the beryl settings manager there
[01:16] <TheInfinity> ax1s: of course - 7.04 for example is also for productive use
[01:16] <amrush> skullAttack: when i do that the frames are invisible but functional
[01:16] <TheInfinity> LTS has is aspect on server issues
[01:17] <ax1s> TheInfinity: Yah well, most " " opensource softwares haven't ported to 7.04
[01:17] <skullAttack> amrush: on the same beryl logo, right click and click reload window manager, and reload window decoratoer
[01:17] <ax1s> TheInfinity:  besides, it's aptly named kde4base-dev
[01:17] <skullAttack> if that doesnt work, press ctrl alt and backspace to reload KDE (that usually fixes it) - beryl is still not perfect
[01:17] <amrush> skullAttack:tried and never worked
[01:18] <ax1s> amrush: use control alt on the lefthand side of your keyboard
[01:18] <skullAttack> amrush: make sure you save anything you have open as they will close
[01:18] <ax1s> the first line of the kde4 page states;
[01:18] <ax1s> KDE 4 Alpha 1
[01:18] <ax1s> The first Alpha release of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Feisty. These are intended for developers only.
[01:19] <soc> ax1s: we are at alpha 2!
[01:19] <aznpridechinese> i got the emerald themer on but how do i switch to the theme i want? all i can do is just select them
[01:19] <TheInfinity> and it has almost no functions ;)
[01:19] <TheInfinity> some ideas but just for playing around
[01:19] <ax1s> yah nothing is official
[01:19] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: you click it, and its applied. close the theme manager and ittl stay on the theme you selected!
[01:19] <ax1s> oh they actually officially bumped the release date for 23/October
[01:19] <jzilla> hello friends - i just installed the package ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu install - upon logging into gnome, i have no title bars. what could be the problem?
[01:20] <ax1s> jzilla: good question ;] 
[01:20] <skullAttack> jzilla: sudo apt-get install gdm
[01:20] <soc> ax1s: nothing official? http://dot.kde.org/1183569837/
[01:20] <amrush> skullAttack .. still not working
[01:21] <jzilla> skullAttack: gmd is already the newest version
[01:21] <ax1s> soc: Yah, that's an alpha
[01:21] <skullAttack> i trust you have restarted the system
[01:21] <ax1s> soc: not even an official beta
[01:21] <aznpridechinese> cool i didn't notice it before skull, so beryl is only for icons? how about the whole desktop themes like the way kde themer can do? how do i change it with beryl?
[01:21] <jzilla> skullAttack: no, lol
[01:21] <jzilla> brb
[01:21] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: you change the window decorations with emerald theme manager
[01:21] <amrush> yes i did
[01:21] <soc> ax1s: yes it is an alpha ...
[01:21] <skullAttack> you can use the kde themer for the colours of scroll bars, buttons and so on
[01:22] <ax1s> october 23 sounds like an official beta release
[01:22] <aznpridechinese> ok cool
[01:22] <ax1s> i mean it is wiki, so who can trust it.. but ..   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4
[01:23] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: and to change desktop background, rick click your desktop - configure desktop ;)
[01:23] <danya> hi again :D
[01:23] <ax1s> mooshi mooshi
[01:24] <danya> guys I'm having a problem with a beryl .. It has been working fine for a day or 2 and yesterday  it just stopped working ..i removed it and installed it again and still it's not working .. any suggestions ?
[01:24] <spawn57> hajimemashte
[01:25] <ax1s> danya: is your 3d working?
[01:25] <jzilla> skullAttack: restart didnt restore title bars, any other ideas?
[01:25] <ax1s> danya: glxinfo|grep direct
[01:26] <skullAttack> jzilla - try removing ubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <skullAttack> then try installing gdm
[01:26] <skullAttack> i did the same for kde and it worked
[01:26] <ax1s> i have a problem with that
[01:26] <ax1s> had
[01:26] <ax1s> when i installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <ax1s> i still had to select GDM as the default manager
[01:26] <danya> how can I check ?
[01:26] <ax1s> danya: glxinfo|grep direct
[01:26] <jzilla> ill give it a shot
[01:26] <ax1s> then select KDM as default session
[01:26] <ax1s> after
[01:27] <jzilla> im on a kubuntu install, and want to use gnome though
[01:27] <aznpridechinese> why is my screen laggy?
[01:27] <ax1s> dayna: glxinfo|grep direct  <-- should say something like direct rendering, yes / no
[01:27] <ax1s> jzilla: reverse the steps.. when you re install ubuntu-desktop , select KDM as default manager
[01:27] <ax1s> then at the login window, change it there
[01:28] <jzilla> alright
[01:28] <ax1s> w0rd
[01:28] <jzilla> thanks folks
[01:28] <ax1s>     * June 27, 2007: Alpha2
[01:28] <ax1s> Alpha 2 is prepared and released after some initial testing. The incoming bugs will be reviewed for their severity. This release should be beta1 initially, but they decided to call it alpha2 instead because that fits the expectations of the public a little better considering what's in it. However after this release, a new Beta version will be released every month.
[01:29] <danya>  glxinfo|grep direct
[01:29] <danya> direct rendering: Yes
[01:29] <ax1s> danya: brutal
[01:29] <ax1s> danya: i mean that's good, but means more trouble shooting lol
[01:29] <ax1s> danya: ati or nvidia
[01:29] <danya> I'm not sure :P .. It's Intel :p
[01:29] <soc> ax1s: there are already suse and osx builds, but no kubuntu builds
[01:30] <ax1s> soc : of beta1 ? or alpha2 as it's called?
[01:30] <spawn57> damn
[01:30] <icecruncher> how can you get ridd of disk fragmentation on a ext3 hdd?
[01:30] <ax1s> soc: ubuntu would just package it and make it an apt-get
[01:30] <danya> I have installed it from this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_INTEL_cards
[01:31] <spawn57> i wonder how fast people are going to port their apps to KDE4
[01:31] <ax1s> danya: okay sec
[01:31] <soc> yes there are builds for suse and kubuntu
[01:31] <soc> and i wonder if there are debs for ubuntu
[01:31] <soc> maybe un kubuntu.com
[01:32] <soc> they were quite fast in the past with such packages ...
[01:32] <soc> but i don't find anything
[01:32] <ax1s> soc: i think suse and osx have made their own builds of the alpha2
[01:32] <ax1s> soc: http://www.kde.org/download/
[01:33] <ax1s> soc: shows there is only binaries for 4.0
[01:33] <icecruncher> anybody?
[01:34] <ax1s> icecrunch: is the ext3 system your OS filesystem?
[01:34] <ax1s> danya: when you boot up, hit ESCAPE for grubs loader, and sected the prvious kernel
[01:34] <ax1s> danya: see if that works
[01:34] <soc> ax1s: it seems you don't understand what i say
[01:34] <soc> http://www.kde.org/info/3.91.php
[01:35] <ax1s>  oh at the bottom
[01:35] <soc> on this page there a packages for suse and osx. understood?
[01:35] <ax1s> i see now
[01:35] <soc> and i wonder if there will be ubuntu packages added. ok?
[01:35] <icecruncher> ax1s: yes, and fragmented from torrents
[01:35] <skullAttack> you can run KDE on OSX?
[01:35] <soc> ^yes?
[01:35] <skullAttack> :D
[01:36] <soc> at least the applications
[01:36] <skullAttack> ah
[01:36] <skullAttack> still cool
[01:36] <ax1s> can you install the libraries to run any linux code?
[01:36] <soc> not the desktop ...
[01:36] <ax1s> can't* ?
[01:36] <skullAttack> ya
[01:36] <skullAttack> osx has X11 support
[01:36] <ax1s> so you could compile everything yourself
[01:36] <ax1s> but would be dependencey hell
[01:36] <FireHazard17> os alreaady can run linux apps
[01:36] <soc> or you just take the osx packages fro the bottom of the page
[01:36] <ax1s> soc: svn build for kubuntu
[01:36] <ax1s> soc: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[01:37] <skullAttack> i was running GTK apps from my ubuntu biox on my mac via a ssh -X session :)
[01:37] <soc> yes i know that
[01:37] <danya> whats a grubs loader ?
[01:37] <soc> i wanted to know if somebody knows when there will be ubuntu packages
[01:37] <icecruncher> !grub | danya
[01:37] <ubotu> danya: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:37] <ax1s> soc: so all the binaries are already availible in the repositories
[01:37] <skullAttack> danya: it lets you choose what OS you load, and then what linux kernel you boot
[01:37] <FireHazard17> and yes you would have to basically compile everything but the kernel it would be total hell
[01:38] <soc> ax1s: and where?
[01:38] <ax1s> soc: oh it's a compile how-to .. lame
[01:38] <soc> even gutsy doesn't ahve them
[01:38] <soc> *sigh*
[01:39] <soc> you doesn't really read things to the end?
[01:39] <FireHazard17> oh yeah for my question i dont want kde saving mysession aka what was running before my comp turned off  it would be usefull when working but on my home comp it is just annoying
[01:40] <pavel__> hi
[01:40] <ax1s> soc: never, i grab what I need and go
[01:40] <ax1s> soc: I pillage google
[01:40] <pavel__> Je tu njakej ech?
[01:40] <FireHazard17> pavel__: hi
[01:40] <FireHazard17> pavel__: no
[01:40] <pavel__> koda
[01:40] <soc> :-)
[01:40] <pavel__> ?)
[01:41] <ax1s> soc: looks like the debian developers are still making binaries for everything
[01:42] <soc> mh
[01:42] <ax1s> soc: kde4base ?
[01:42] <ax1s> 518 mbytes
[01:42] <ax1s> i'm downloading it now
[01:42] <ax1s> ahahaha
[01:42] <ax1s> f it
[01:42] <soc> thats the source
[01:43] <soc> i think
[01:43] <soc> without looking at it
[01:43] <ax1s> not if it's apt-get without -source in the name
[01:43] <ax1s> it's apt get
[01:43] <ax1s> installing kde4libs-data
[01:43] <soc> you are apt-getting it?
[01:43] <ax1s> yes
[01:43] <soc> from where?
[01:43] <ax1s> kde4base
[01:43] <ax1s> universe
[01:43] <FireHazard17> thanks for no help but i fixed it anywaay
[01:43] <soc> what univers?
[01:43] <ax1s> FireHazard17: we knew you could handle it ;] 
[01:44] <ax1s> soc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kde4base
[01:44] <FireHazard17> :p
[01:44] <FireHazard17> nice
[01:44] <soc> ^universe, ax1s?
[01:44] <ax1s> soc: the universe repositories
[01:44] <soc> which ones?
[01:44] <soc> even on gutsy i only have 3.90.1
[01:44] <ax1s> soc: sudo apt-get install kde4base
[01:44] <soc> yes these are the ones from alpha1
[01:45] <soc> alpha1 was quite broken :-)
[01:45] <ax1s> ahhh
[01:45] <ax1s> guess we will have to build debs and host them
[01:45] <ax1s> ;] 
[01:45] <nikola__> hi
[01:45] <nikola__> people
[01:45] <icecruncher> hey
[01:45] <nikola__> can somebody help me
[01:45] <ax1s> grrr
[01:45] <ax1s> just ask your question
[01:46] <nikola__> ok
[01:46] <nikola__> well
[01:46] <ax1s> *barks
[01:46] <ax1s> *bites
[01:46] <nikola__> i `m install kubuntu
[01:46] <ax1s> Ahahahaha
[01:46] <nikola__> and i wont to install compiz fusion
[01:47] <nikola__> and when i install compiz fusion
[01:47] <nikola__> it` s not work
[01:47] <nikola__> well
[01:47] <nikola__> i have graphic card ati radeon 9600 pro
[01:47] <FireHazard17> i cant get it working on my grandmothers computer either
[01:47] <^futuro> ciao ragazzi
[01:47] <icecruncher> !compiz | nikola__
[01:47] <ubotu> nikola__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:48] <^futuro> per ubuntu italia dove posso andare?
[01:48] <FireHazard17> yeah that might help
[01:48] <icecruncher> !it +| ^futuro
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it + - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <^futuro> plase for Ubuntu - Itay
[01:48] <^futuro> ?
[01:48] <icecruncher> !it | ^futuro
[01:48] <ubotu> ^futuro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:48] <icecruncher> :)
[01:48] <ax1s> danya_: type /j danya_
[01:48] <^futuro> thanks
[01:48] <icecruncher> np
[01:49] <FireHazard17> now that is a ubotu command i actually find usefull
[01:49] <FireHazard17> usually ubotu is just annoying
[01:49] <ax1s> danya_: Select the third one .. the one after the first Recovery
[01:50] <icecruncher> lol
[01:50] <ax1s> danya: it will say ubuntu ### .. option 2 ubuntu recovery
[01:50] <ax1s> danya_: 3rd option might be mem test, if it is, select the next one
[01:51] <ax1s> restarting x brb
[01:53] <Contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[01:54] <FireHazard17> hallo
[01:54] <Contrast83> Could someone do me a favor and open getdeb.net in Konqueror and in Firefox and tell me if they see anything strange?
[01:54] <FireHazard17> k
[01:54] <icecruncher> Contrast83: their site is messed up, cant get anything myself
[01:54] <FireHazard17> nope seems fine to me and thank you
[01:55] <FireHazard17> just downloaded a package too
[01:55] <icecruncher> FireHazard17: some of the links don't work
[01:55] <Contrast83> Hmm... Thanks anyway
[01:56] <ax1s> contrast: sup
[01:56] <Contrast83> Strange. It shows up as like, months behind in Konqueror (already tried refreshing)
[01:56] <Contrast83> Hey
[01:56] <danya> i did what u asked me to do .. and beryl isn't working
[01:56] <icecruncher> can anyone get pidgin at getdeb? me no works
[01:56] <FireHazard17> oh maybbe diidnt look at any dates
[01:56] <FireHazard17> k i will
[01:57] <FireHazard17> 2.0.2 ok
[01:57] <FireHazard17> ?
[01:58] <icecruncher> yep
[01:58] <FireHazard17> ok there are two packages pidgin and pidgin data ill send pidgin first
[01:59] <nikola__> hey boyz
[01:59] <icecruncher> FireHazard17: it's ok, firefox didn't cooperate with teh site. konq wrks
[01:59] <FireHazard17> k
[02:00] <icecruncher> life
[02:00] <icecruncher> lol
[02:00] <Contrast83> icecruncher: Weird, I had the exact opposite problem. Heh
[02:00] <icecruncher> Contrast83: lol, me get tons of php problems
[02:00] <icecruncher> Contrast83: u?
[02:01] <nikola__> do you seen eny open source for ati radeon 9600 pro on the web!?
[02:01] <Contrast83> Yeah, same here, mainly when trying to download stuff (esp. debs)
[02:01] <icecruncher> Contrast83: same here lol
[02:01] <FireHazard17> you want it from me?
[02:01] <FireHazard17> i didnt delete it yet
[02:01] <nikola__> what/
[02:02] <nikola__> ?
[02:02] <FireHazard17> nikola__: not you
[02:02] <nikola__> o
[02:02] <nikola__> k
[02:02] <sahin_h> Is Gusty+1 will be the next LTS verion of Kubuntu?
[02:02] <Contrast83> Does anyone know of a good Linux gaming IRC channel?
[02:02] <Contrast83> sahin_h: Nope
[02:02] <ax1s> contrast: http://www.freshnet.org/wordpress/2007/05/05/pidgin-200-for-ubuntu-feisty/
[02:03] <sahin_h> I just read it on the following url: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/kde-4-kubuntu-systemsettings-vs-kcontrol/
[02:03] <sahin_h> This is why I'm wondering.
[02:03] <msetim> Hi
[02:03] <icecruncher> hey
[02:03] <FireHazard17> msetim: hi
[02:03] <ax1s> sahin: doubt it
[02:03] <ax1s> lts is up to 2011
[02:03] <nikola__> has anybody seen opet source for ati graphic card on web???PLEASE GIVE ME ANSWER!!!!
[02:03] <Contrast83> sahin_h: Last I read, it's not LTS. Things could've changed since though
[02:04] <ax1s> i doubt they will be announcing another LTS version till closer to that date
[02:04] <Contrast83> nikola__: NO!!!!
[02:04] <Contrast83> ;-)
[02:04] <sahin_h> Ok. Let we see...
[02:04] <nikola__> ohhhhhhhh
[02:04] <nikola__> :(
[02:04] <msetim> I want to install flash 9, however my kubuntu is 64 bits :-D Some suggestion?? I already try nspluginwrapper ;)
[02:04] <nikola__> tnx
[02:04] <icecruncher> !patience | nikola__
[02:04] <ubotu> nikola__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:04] <Contrast83> nikola__: Are you just trying to get the source?
[02:04] <FireHazard17> use 32bit
[02:05] <nikola__> yeah
[02:05] <Contrast83> Hang on...
[02:05] <arekanderu> Hiya guys, could someone tell me how to do a "batfile" ? :P
[02:05] <FireHazard17> a what?
[02:05] <icecruncher> arekanderu: you mean *.bat?
[02:05] <msetim> FireHazard17: I need 64 bits, because my ATI Radeon only have 3D acceleration on it :) The 32 bits have many issues with it...
[02:06] <arekanderu> Yeah someting like that, but i know it aint .bat in linux
[02:06] <FireHazard17> yeah you mean like a windowsscript?
[02:06] <FireHazard17> oh a script you mean?
[02:06] <arekanderu> yeah
[02:06] <icecruncher> !bash | arekanderu
[02:06] <ubotu> arekanderu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:06] <ax1s> danya_:
[02:06] <ax1s> Edit:a simple "rm .beryl-managerrc" did the trick... 5 times Oo
[02:06] <ax1s> There is something wrong with that file... it's not the config file, all my settings are working perfectly, what did I do wrong in order for that file to mess Beryl boot? huh... oh well... I guess I'll make a script to make that commang everytime I start a new session... (it works1).
[02:06] <skullAttack> anyone here had any success with wine and source games?
[02:06] <Contrast83> nikola__: Did you look on packages.ubuntu.com?
[02:06] <nikola__> yes
[02:07] <nikola__> nothing
[02:07] <icecruncher> arekanderu: learn to use bash, code your own
[02:07] <ax1s> danya_:  first paragraph on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2937519
[02:07] <arekanderu> kthxbye :*
[02:07] <ax1s> arekanderu: do you want to make a random script or startup script
[02:07] <ax1s> meh
[02:08] <icecruncher> lol
[02:08] <FireHazard17> scripting is fun!
[02:08] <FireHazard17> i made you mad?
[02:09] <Contrast83> nikola__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/xserver-xorg-video-ati
[02:09] <icecruncher> ax1s: you said you where gonna compile?
[02:09] <icecruncher> ax1s: the kd4
[02:10] <FireHazard17> yes
[02:10] <FireHazard17> yes it is
[02:10] <icecruncher> FireHazard17; lol, 's indeed fun
[02:11] <Contrast83> nikola__: You know the open-source ATI driver doesn't support 3D-acceleration on many cards, right?
[02:11] <FireHazard17> many many cards
[02:11] <FireHazard17> like all but 2
[02:11] <FireHazard17> jk
[02:12] <ax1s> icecruncher: yah i was joking, but i guess i could
[02:12] <nikola__> jap
[02:12] <FireHazard17> the two that are currently in novascotia
[02:12] <ax1s> bbiab, hopefully with debs
[02:12] <nikola__> on 9600 pro he support experimentaly 3D
[02:13] <icecruncher> FireHazard17: well I've got like 4  :)
[02:13] <icecruncher> FireHazard17: all old and unused though
[02:13] <nikola__> I have problem with texture_from_pixmap!
[02:13] <Contrast83> sahin_h: I'm just now reading that link you posted. It doesn't say Gutsy will be LTS, it says the release after it will.
[02:14] <icecruncher> ok, anybody got any good guides on how to change boot splash and grub screen?
[02:15] <FireHazard17> icecruncher: you are in novascotia?
[02:16] <icecruncher> FireHazard17: thailand, lol
[02:16] <FireHazard17> ok fine greenland i dont even think people can live there it is only frikken ice
[02:17] <hirsivaja> hi, does anyone know how to make http:// -addresses in konsole clickable, i mean that they open in browser when i click them?
[02:18] <sahin_h> Contrast83: Yep, I aksed the same. Maybe Gusty+1 will be the next LTS... Perhaps.
[02:18] <JohnFlux> hirsivaja: check the settings?
[02:19] <Contrast83> sahin_h: Ohh... My apologies, I misread your original question. Heh
[02:19] <icecruncher> bye all, gonna boot to xfce :)
[02:19] <sahin_h> Contrast83: No problem...
[02:19] <hirsivaja> JohnFlux: could you be more specific?
[02:20] <hirsivaja> i can't seem to find a setting that would enable such thing
[02:21] <FireHazard17> neither i
[02:23] <FireHazard17> im now compiling wine
[02:32] <laomao> i'm a beginner,when i input compiz --replace in the terminal,it  tells me cann't active "dbus"
[02:33] <mrEiger> hi! i was wondering how to enable openGL for propriate ati drivers
[02:33] <mrEiger> tryed everything/ read mans/ nothing....
[02:34] <nnoeonn> Hiya guys! Ehm, what do I search for in adept manager when i want to download drivers for ati radeon x300?
[02:36] <arekanderu> !ati | nnoeonn
[02:36] <ubotu> nnoeonn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:36] <mrEiger> sudo aptget install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:36] <mrEiger> nnoeonn: sudo aptget install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:37] <nnoeonn> mreiger, you sure?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, I would check in system settings first , the fglrx driver is there , you just have to choose and configure it... or you can go to the the ATI site search for drivers and DL and install their latest prprietary driver
[02:37] <arekanderu> nnoeonn: hope that helps ya
[02:37] <BluesKaj> err proprietary
[02:38] <mrEiger> nnoeonn: i installed them, but as i said no OpenGL. by te way be careful with video driver because they can cause x server not to start
[02:39] <ghaleb> Hi all, I want to define the wireless card in my laptop HP Pavilion. Intel Wireless. any help
[02:42] <BluesKaj> mrEiger , this site helped me with 3D and DRI on my elcheapo onboard xpress200G : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty  .Now at least i can run Google Earth and other apps requiring DRI , where as previously I couldn't on feisty
[02:43] <mrEiger> BluesKaj: thanks!!
[02:44] <Darkrift> wow
[02:44] <Darkrift> vmware kicks ***
[02:44] <BluesKaj> ghaleb, run 'lspci' in the terminal , your card should be listed
[02:44] <Darkrift> its syncing with my pda, and using only 350mb ram to do it
[02:44] <Darkrift> mirc took 2.4g to run
[02:44] <Darkrift> lol
[02:44] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, what are you using it for?
[02:44] <Darkrift> ram/virt ram
[02:45] <Darkrift> activesync
[02:45] <Darkrift> to sync with my pocket pc
[02:45] <BluesKaj> linux won't ?
[02:45] <Darkrift> nope
[02:45] <Darkrift> linux sync programs suck
[02:45] <Darkrift> i saw someone say oyu have a 30% chance of linux syncing with your device
[02:46] <Darkrift> if you have wm5, you have 0% chance
[02:46] <jturek> I have no sound in Kde
[02:46] <BluesKaj> I can't get VMWare to install on my pc ...it fails
[02:46] <jturek> but everything works fine in Gnome
[02:46] <Darkrift> i instaled vmplayer
[02:46] <jturek> what am I doing wrong?
[02:46] <Darkrift> used the website in the !vmware help to create me a vmx
[02:46] <Darkrift> then i installed xp on it
[02:46] <nnoeonn> Hello everyone, I need some help
[02:47] <BluesKaj> what does vmplayer do otherwise ?
[02:47] <Darkrift> same as vmware workstation but it wont create a virt machine
[02:47] <Darkrift> only run it
[02:47] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, did you try to install fglrx drivers?
[02:47] <nnoeonn> I f*cked up my computer the other day by installing right mark cpu utlity on windows, now it turns of every time i use 100% of the cpu... and i installed it on windows
[02:47] <Darkrift> so you use the website to create it
[02:48] <Darkrift> !vmware
[02:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:48] <mrEiger> nnoeonn: BluesKaj gave me a web page with man for x300 http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty. it can be helpful for u
[02:48] <Darkrift> the easyvmx site creates it fro you
[02:48] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj: No, my comp is totaly screwed so it shut of al by itself xD
[02:48] <nnoeonn> and btw, sorry for my bad english :S
[02:49] <Darkrift> ok, later all
[02:49] <Darkrift> going to bed
[02:49] <nnoeonn> c ya dark
[02:50] <jturek> can anybody here help me with my kde sound?
[02:50] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, try this tutorial...it will work for your x300 card : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[02:50] <jturek> I do not get sound when using kde. (like watching youtube videos..etc.)
[02:50] <jturek> but it works fine in Gnome
[02:50] <jturek> the sound is @100%  and nothing is muted
[02:50] <nnoeonn> Blues, got kubuntu, not ubuntu :S
[02:51] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter nnoeonn , i use kubuntu too ...my card is a x200G
[02:52] <FireHazard17> i got an nvidia 7600 gs thats alright right?
[02:52] <niko__> hi to all!
[02:52] <FireHazard17> hi again
[02:52] <niko__> italian channel?
[02:52] <FireHazard17> this isnt
[02:52] <jturek> hi, anybody here know how to fix the lack of sound working in KDE
[02:52] <jturek> but works fine in Gnome?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> yeah FireHazard17, you should be ok
[02:52] <niko__> i know!
[02:52] <niko__> i'm not very new...
[02:53] <FireHazard17> then what did you mean?
[02:53] <mrEiger> jturek: what driver are u using?
[02:53] <niko__> #ubuntu-it...
[02:54] <BluesKaj> !it | niko__
[02:54] <ubotu> niko__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:54] <FireHazard17> niko__:  what about it?
[02:55] <niko__> i'm there...
[02:55] <niko__> thenks to all :-)
[02:56] <niko__> ops
[03:02] <ghaleb> I want to use my wireless adapter . but its not working .. what should i do
[03:04] <roshan> hi
[03:04] <roshan> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <Nyle> hi
[03:05] <Nyle> I'm at work now
[03:05] <Nyle> BluesKaj: hey man
[03:05] <FireHazard17> gah yeah sure whats your problem
[03:05] <roshan> i just installed kubuntu and my mouse has never worked..
[03:05] <BluesKaj> hi Nyle
[03:05] <roshan> not even during installation i tabbed it through
[03:05] <FireHazard17> is it plugged in is it normal or wirelesS?
[03:06] <roshan> normal
[03:06] <roshan> serail mouse
[03:06] <roshan> serial
[03:06] <roshan> logitech
[03:06] <roshan> 2 botton
[03:06] <FireHazard17> that could be why seriel is out dated
[03:06] <FireHazard17> try to at least get a ps2 if oyu can
[03:06] <roshan> ah..
[03:06] <FireHazard17> i myself have a normal usb
[03:07] <roshan> can i configure it ot work on serial?
[03:07] <FireHazard17> look online you may find a howto to get it working
[03:07] <FireHazard17> i have no clue though
[03:07] <roshan> i tried but not easy to do with mouse :P
[03:07] <roshan> w/o mouse
[03:07] <FireHazard17> :p
[03:07] <FireHazard17> yeah i know
[03:08] <roshan> oh well thanx dude
[03:10] <Nyle> heh
[03:10] <nnoeonn> .... now im getting pissed off (not by you guys, but by my comp........)
[03:10] <Nyle> I am getting paid to do chat on irc
[03:10] <Nyle> :D
[03:10] <Nyle> I love my job
[03:11] <nnoeonn> It keeps shutting off whenever the cpu is used 100%... :'(
[03:11] <nnoeonn> Well then nyle, why dont you help me? :P
[03:12] <roshan> amd64?
[03:12] <nnoeonn> You mean me roshan? O.o
[03:12] <roshan> Nyle how do get the xorgconfig to run?
[03:13] <roshan> yeah..
[03:13] <Nyle> I dunno
[03:13] <Nyle> I just modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <Nyle> its easy
[03:13] <roshan> lol
[03:13] <roshan> not really..
[03:13] <Nyle> its trivial rather
[03:13] <Nyle> just read and ask about what you don't know
[03:13] <roshan> i tried setting the dev to ttyS0 did not work
[03:14] <Nyle> what does that mean? setting the dev
[03:14] <roshan> in the xorg.conf
[03:14] <Nyle> what are you trying to do
[03:14] <Nyle> who needs help I'm confused
[03:14] <roshan> usually its dev/mice right
[03:14] <Nyle> /dev/input/mice
[03:14] <roshan> yeah
[03:14] <roshan> i set it to ttys0
[03:14] <Nyle> why?
[03:14] <roshan> lol no use
[03:15] <roshan> serail port?
[03:15] <Nyle> roshan means light
[03:15] <Nyle> you indian?
[03:15] <roshan> yeah
[03:15] <Nyle> word man
[03:15] <Nyle> me too
[03:15] <Nyle> :)
[03:15] <roshan> huh??
[03:15] <roshan> from?
[03:15] <Nyle> pakistan
[03:15] <roshan> ah..
[03:15] <nikola__> hi
[03:15] <Nyle> hi
[03:15] <roshan> yo
[03:15] <roshan> lol
[03:16] <nikola__> can anyone tell me how to install new driver for graphic card
[03:16] <nikola__> ?
[03:16] <Nyle> which card?
[03:16] <nikola__> ati radeon 9600 pro
[03:16] <nnoeonn> I need help with my computer, this is the info i got: a couple of days ago i had windows, i installed right mark cpu utility, after that my computer freezez and shuts off all the time, i've figured out that it seems to do that whenever i use the cpu 100%... I've tried to reinstall windows, and now linux, but i still got the problem
[03:16] <FireHazard17> ati or nvidia or intel?
[03:16] <nikola__> ati
[03:16] <nnoeonn> !ati | kiola__
[03:16] <ubotu> kiola__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:16] <nikola__> i was downloaded driver
[03:17] <nnoeonn> So can u help me nyle? :S
[03:17] <nikola__> but i using kubuntu (linux) 2 days and i don`t know how to install
[03:17] <nikola__> txn ubutu
[03:18] <Nyle> nnoeonn: with?
[03:18] <vzduch> nnoeonn: RAM issue perhaps, try Memtest, it's on the live CD as a boot option
[03:18] <roshan> no need live cd for memtest
[03:18] <nnoeonn> Nyle look up a couple of lines :P
[03:18] <Nyle> it sounds like a cpu issue
[03:18] <Nyle> it shuts down when its too hot
[03:18] <vzduch> or that
[03:18] <Nyle> if you shutdown under 100% load you should check your heatsink
[03:18] <nnoeonn> the thing is that it aint hot
[03:18] <Nyle> there are a few standard tests that we do here
[03:19] <Nyle> at work
[03:19] <Nyle> we use hirens or ultimate boot cd or some such
[03:19] <Nyle> and mini PE
[03:19] <Nyle> either get those or whatver you want
[03:19] <nnoeonn> where do i get it
[03:19] <Nyle> boot the cpu, test the memory, let at least 2 passes go through on your RAM
[03:19] <Nyle> run memtest86+
[03:19] <Nyle> etc.
[03:19] <Nyle> and if your ram is good,boot with minipe or something, and stress test the cpu
[03:20] <Nyle> if you go shutdown again on cpu 100% load
[03:20] <Nyle> then its your cpu more than likely
[03:20] <nnoeonn> would u please xplain that in plain english...
[03:20] <Nyle> either the heatsink doesn't sit properly
[03:20] <Nyle> or its loose or something
[03:20] <Nyle> most bios shut the pc down when it reaches a threshold of 70C tops
[03:20] <nnoeonn> hmmm..... w8 a sec
[03:20] <Nyle> some do it at 65
[03:20] <nnoeonn> that could beit
[03:21] <nnoeonn> and thats the problem, it never gets hot, at all...
[03:21] <Nyle> yeh
[03:21] <nnoeonn> it shuts down way before that :S
[03:21] <Nyle> the heatsink should be getting a bit warm
[03:21] <Nyle> reseat it
[03:21] <Nyle> make sure your thermal compound isn't too much
[03:21] <Nyle> if you put too much paste on the cpu, there is hardly any heat xfer
[03:21] <nnoeonn> Ill test that ^
[03:21] <Nyle> only put a little bit
[03:21] <nnoeonn> ^^*
[03:21] <Nyle> join ##hardware for your other hw related questions
[03:22] <nnoeonn> k thnx m8 :D:D
[03:22] <Nyle> anytime
[03:22] <Nyle> brb
[03:26] <roshan> can anyone get my serial mouse to work?
[03:27] <roshan> can anyone get my serial mouse to work?
[03:28] <yotux> Is fiesty 64bit a good choice or should 64 bit user still fall back to i386?
[03:28] <Nyle> roshan: pastebin your xorg.conf
[03:28] <roshan> i am runnin 64 bit thumbs up
[03:28] <roshan> y go back?
[03:29] <umberleigh> hi. i'm having problems with firefox 2.0.0.4 after recently upgrading from dapper to fiesty. i'm using the version in the main repository with the flash, kaffeine and possibly java plugins. it's taking 2 or 3 attempts to load each page. it just gives me a 404 error the first time i try. all other internet apps seem to be working fine
[03:29] <Nyle>   roshan> i set it to ttys0
[03:29] <roshan> i tried
[03:29] <Nyle> roshan: /dev/ttyS0
[03:29] <yotux> was a former slackware users and was told 64bit is not mature quit yet that is why I was asking
[03:29] <Nyle> capital S afaik
[03:29] <umberleigh> oh, and it's the 64bit version
[03:29] <roshan> yeahh!!
[03:30] <Nyle> roshan: ls /dev/ttyS0
[03:30] <roshan> it says in site xorg it works!] 
[03:30] <roshan> yeah
[03:30] <roshan> S0
[03:30] <Nyle> roshan: also you might need to modify the protocol as well
[03:31] <roshan> ok let me set it to microsoft since it is 2button
[03:31] <umberleigh> yotux: aside from a couple of proprietry apps/plugin's only compliled for 32bit processors i haven't had any problems and have found workarounds otherwise
[03:31] <Nyle> roshan:   roshan> i set it to ttys0
[03:31] <Nyle> goddamit
[03:31] <roshan> yeah
[03:31] <roshan> lol
[03:31] <Nyle> Option "Protocol" "microsoft"
[03:31] <Nyle> wrong copy in my buffer
[03:31] <roshan> yeah ok ill do tht
[03:31] <Nyle> :)
[03:31] <roshan> heh
[03:31] <yotux> umberleigh: thanks
[03:31] <Nyle> or just buy a new mouse
[03:31] <roshan> yo get paud to do this?
[03:32] <Nyle> me?
[03:32] <roshan> paid*?
[03:32] <Nyle> paid to do what?
[03:32] <roshan> chat?
[03:32] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. Is it possible to use the GTK style widgets on only one program?
[03:32] <Nyle> yeh
[03:32] <Nyle> pretty much
[03:32] <Nyle> my job is laid back
[03:32] <Maxdamantus> And the KDE version for everything else?
[03:32] <umberleigh> yotux: no probs
[03:32] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: I'm not sure, try ~/.gtk something or other conf files
[03:32] <Nyle> maybe you can do per app, I'm not sure and never heard of it before
[03:33] <umberleigh> yotux: haven't noticed any obvious performance increase though, but then i haven't measured to find out for sure
[03:33] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: either use switch2 or gtk2-engines-gtk-qt or for better control use xfce4-mcs-manager
[03:33] <Maxdamantus> I just want the KDE style for everything except XChat (XChat only displays coloured tabs in normal GTK)
[03:33] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: I use xfce4-mcs-manager & xfce-setting-show
[03:33] <yotux> I am under taking a full remove of M$ vista from my notebook today
[03:33] <Nyle> its a much beter control over gtk apps in kde
[03:34] <yotux> Planning a re install of Fiesty kubuntu only
[03:34] <roshan> i forgot the command for root command
[03:34] <roshan> sudo?
[03:34] <Nyle> yes
[03:34] <roshan> ah thk yo
[03:34] <Nyle> yup
[03:34] <Maxdamantus> Nyle, I'll check that out.
[03:34] <umberleigh> yotux: good luck. managed for about a year with linux only till i needed windows for gaming and making music
[03:35] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: Im not sure if you can do that.  However check with #kde also
[03:35] <Maxdamantus> Claims that it's already installed.
[03:35] <roshan> how can i login directly as root?
[03:35] <ryaren> HI
[03:35] <Nyle> roshan: why?
[03:35] <roshan> just askin
[03:35] <Nyle> roshan: if you have to ask about sudo, and how to login as root, you probably shouldn't
[03:35] <roshan> tired of typin pass
[03:35] <Nyle> stick with sudo
[03:35] <Maxdamantus> However, there is no "xfce4-mcs-manager" in any of the directories set in PATH
[03:35] <ryaren> Somebody is using the nvtv??
[03:35] <yotux> umberleigh:  Have access to a vmware server if need be.
[03:36] <roshan> ah ok
[03:36] <Maxdamantus> Oh. There is.
[03:36] <Maxdamantus> Without the 4. :d
[03:36] <Nyle> :)
[03:36] <Nyle> after you intall this package, the binary is xfce-setting-show
[03:36] <vzduch> roshan: you just implied that you were going to do things as root permanently.. bad idea! :)
[03:36] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: I also prefer to use gtk2-engines-xfce
[03:36] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: in those engines, I use xfce-kolors
[03:37] <Maxdamantus> How do I configure it?
[03:37] <Nyle> thats a very nice gtk theme and works under kde flawlessly
[03:37] <FireHazard17> i did something in kde where i no longerehave to type passwords for sudo
[03:37] <Maxdamantus> When I ran it, it just applied one of the XFCE GTK styles.
[03:37] <FireHazard17> makes it more bearable
[03:37] <Maxdamantus> Oh crap.
[03:37] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: apt-get install xfce4-mcs-manager gtk2-engines-xfce && xfce-setting-show
[03:38] <Maxdamantus> It applied the xfce mouse settings too.
[03:38] <Maxdamantus> And I messed round with those, and stuffed it up.
[03:38] <Nyle> just go through the xfcesetting window and change the gtk apps looks
[03:38] <Maxdamantus> Then couldn't get it back to normal.
[03:38] <Maxdamantus> Could you screenshot me the mouse settings?
[03:38] <Nyle> what mouse settings?
[03:38] <Maxdamantus> In XFCE
[03:38] <Maxdamantus> Mine are stuffed up.
[03:38] <Nyle> why are you asking about the mouse settings?
[03:39] <Nyle> xfcesettingshow has nothing to do with it
[03:39] <Maxdamantus> Because the xfce-mcs-manager applied the xfce mouse settings. :d
[03:39] <Maxdamantus> Which I had messed up while trying out xfce
[03:39] <Nyle> it can't afaik
[03:39] <Maxdamantus> Ok.
[03:40] <Nyle> you have to install xfce4-mcs-plugins in order to be able to mess with mouse settings
[03:40] <ryaren> Somebody is using the nvtv??
[03:40] <Nyle> which you didn't install
[03:40] <Nyle> so there is no way your mouse settings could be messed with afaik
[03:40] <Maxdamantus> Why didn't I install it?
[03:40] <Nyle> cuz I didn't tell you to
[03:40] <ryaren> Somebody knows how can I configure the nvtv?
[03:40] <Nyle> and becuase you don't need it
[03:40] <Maxdamantus> I apt-get'd the xfce4 package ages ago. :d
[03:40] <Maxdamantus> I have lots of WMs.. Xd
[03:40] <ryaren> !nvtv
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: or just use gtk-theme-switch I think
[03:41] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: or you can use gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[03:41] <Nyle> don't have to use xfce settings
[03:41] <Maxdamantus> KDE, GNOME, Fluxbox, Blackbox, Enlightenment, Xfce, fvwm, xpde (useless)
[03:41] <Nyle> but for me xfce engines under kde work better
[03:43] <Maxdamantus> Well. I found the xfce settings I was looking for.
[03:44] <Nyle> yeh
[03:44] <Nyle> in xfce-setting-show you must click 'user interface'
[03:44] <Nyle> that will allow you to change the gtk styles
[03:44] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[03:45] <Maxdamantus> It's not possible to apply one GTK theme to one application, and another to everything else?
[03:45] <Nyle> not afaik
[03:46] <Maxdamantus> Aw.. Firefox looks so cool with my KDE style buttons (Qt)
[03:46] <Nyle> I use kwin baghira on everything
[03:46] <Nyle> gtk+qt
[03:46] <Maxdamantus> But XChat doesn't have coloured tree with Qt.
[03:46] <Nyle> screw xchat man
[03:46] <Nyle> irssi > *
[03:46] <Nyle> :)
[03:46] <Maxdamantus> Never!
[03:47] <Nyle> heh
[03:47] <Maxdamantus> "XChat: Connected to 5 networks and 17 channels"
[03:47] <davidlone> df
[03:47] <Maxdamantus> Try managing that with "/window x"
[03:47] <Nyle> what?
[03:47] <Nyle> I'm on 7 networks
[03:47] <Maxdamantus> In IRSSI?
[03:47] <Nyle> I've got at leat 4 windows on each network
[03:47] <Nyle> yes in irssi
[03:47] <Maxdamantus> Are you idling on most channels?
[03:48] <Nyle> efnet, undernet, dalnet, freenode, rizon, qake, gamesurge
[03:48] <Nyle> quake*
[03:48] <Maxdamantus> Sounds like the sort of networks you idle on.
[03:48] <Nyle> mostly yeh
[03:48] <Nyle> but I chat in them too
[03:48] <Maxdamantus> Idling with IRSSI is easy.
[03:48] <Maxdamantus> With the once in a while chat.
[03:48] <Nyle> xhat pisses me off
[03:48] <Maxdamantus> Why?
[03:48] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: irssi is very powerful
[03:48] <Maxdamantus> I know.
[03:49] <Nyle> xchat doesn't have half the features or irssi
[03:49] <Nyle> of*
[03:49] <fssssssssssh> does anyone know howto change the color (not the size) of the font of the windowbar at the bottom?
[03:49] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde.jpg
[03:49] <Maxdamantus> However, I don't want to switch between 17 channels (minimum) using that interface.
[03:49] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde2.jpg
[03:49] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/irssi.jpg
[03:49] <Maxdamantus> Nyle, what does IRSSI have that XChat doesn't?
[03:50] <Maxdamantus> Ew. Yuck colours in the first.
[03:50] <Maxdamantus> And I want that screen res. :(
[03:50] <Maxdamantus> Useless monitor..
[03:51] <Maxdamantus> Nyle, what about them anyway?
[03:52] <Maxdamantus> The KDE ones.
[03:52] <BluesKaj> irssi will work on TTY prompt or terminal ...xchat ? you have to be kidding
[03:52] <Nyle> what?
[03:52] <Maxdamantus> The KDE pictures.
[03:52] <Maxdamantus> What about them?
[03:52] <Maxdamantus> And I know what XChat looks like. :d
[03:52] <Maxdamantus> IRSSI*
[03:53] <BluesKaj> konversation is best in kde
[03:53] <Maxdamantus> BluesKaj, no way.
[03:53] <Nyle> kde pictures?
[03:53] <Maxdamantus> [01:49:37]   <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde.jpg
[03:53] <Maxdamantus> [01:49:40]   <Nyle> Maxdamantus: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/kde2.jpg
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Maxdamantus: then what is?
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> and don't say xchat, it's not a kde app.
[03:53] <Nyle> Maxdamantus: what are you asking me?
[03:54] <Nyle> I'm not even sure what you're askin me
[03:54] <Maxdamantus> Daisuke_Ido, it still works in KDE though.
[03:54] <Maxdamantus> I'm not giving up Firefox because it's GTK..
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: you put up those pictures, he wants to know why, pretty simple
[03:54] <Nyle> oh
[03:54] <Maxdamantus> I like the KDE desktop environment.
[03:54] <Nyle> just to show him what irssi looks like
[03:54] <Nyle> :)
[03:54] <Maxdamantus> If I didn't, I'd use GNOME.
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Maxdamantus: but there's a difference.  xchat is fugly
[03:54] <Maxdamantus> Daisuke_Ido, how so?
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> look at it.
[03:54] <Maxdamantus> Done.
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> it's ugly, bulky, and hardly intuitive
[03:55] <Nyle> http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/screenshots/kde.mac.jpg
[03:55] <Nyle> this is my current theme
[03:55] <Nyle> kwin-baghira
[03:55] <roshan> yo nyle
[03:55] <Nyle> hi
[03:55] <roshan> atlast my mouse works!!
[03:55] <Nyle> :)
[03:55] <roshan> life is so much better
[03:55] <Nyle> i'm glad I could help
[03:55] <roshan> yeah thx dude
[03:55] <cs5> can anyone help me. I am using an ATI all-in-wonder 9600 video card and have managed to enable the drivers and opengl on my primary, but I cant get proper function out of my second monitor. Using a single multihead video coard with extension cables.
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm definitely not saying that you shouldn't use xchat, you can use whatever you want, but for god's sake, don't paint xchat as the greatest irc client for kde, because it isn't.
[03:56] <Nyle> cs5: use catalyst driver setup tool and make it into a Big Desktop
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> cs5: that's easy to fix
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> get rid of your ati card and get a real one
[03:56] <cs5> Lmao
[03:56] <roshan> lol
[03:56] <roshan> i have a ati 9200 se:P
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ati+linux=heartbreak.
[03:57] <cs5> ty Nyle, and it has functions i like
[03:57] <cs5> yes true
[03:57] <cs5> nvidia better with linux?
[03:57] <CarinArr> nvidia+linux hasn't been much better since i upgraded to feisty
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Car
[03:57] <CarinArr> ;)
[03:57] <cs5> any distros that are more compatible?
[03:57] <CarinArr> though i wouldn't give up my nvidia cards for ati's any time soon
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> CarinArr: then something is wrong.
[03:57] <Maxdamantus> Gar. IRSSI is failing on me.
[03:58] <Maxdamantus> Keeps claiming it can't bind to my IP.
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> but this is also why i prefer to stay about a generation behind on things like that
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> gf 7600, rock solid
[03:58] <CarinArr> Daisuke_Ido: never had any problems in th epast, since upgrading to feisty and trying to use nvidia-glx-new, first restricted-modules seemed not to actually have nvidia, so i had to completely purge them, reboot, reinstall and things now work-ish
[03:58] <CarinArr> with random xserver lockups i never had before
[03:59] <roshan> is it ok if i play mp3 from my fat32?
[03:59] <CarinArr> using 512MB gf go 7600
[03:59] <roshan> how mych does it cost? 7600?
[03:59] <CarinArr> mine's a laptop card so it comes built in
[04:00] <roshan> ah
[04:00] <CarinArr> no idea about graphics card prices in general now
[04:00] <roshan> is it ok if i play mp3 from my fat32?
[04:01] <CarinArr> roshan: i've kept music and stuff on fat32 before without any problems
[04:01] <Maxdamantus> roshan, no.
[04:01] <Maxdamantus> yes*
[04:01] <CarinArr> heh
[04:01] <Maxdamantus> fat32 ftl
[04:01] <roshan> y no?
[04:01] <Maxdamantus> ext3 > fat32
[04:01] <Maxdamantus> roshan, you can.
[04:01] <CarinArr> yes, but some people don't have a choice if they want to access stuff from windows
[04:01] <Maxdamantus> When you mount a file system, it becomes part of the root filesystem.
[04:02] <roshan> i know i can but it puts these access rights i have probs in windows
[04:02] <Maxdamantus> So programs don't care if it's on fat32, ext3, whatever.
[04:02] <Maxdamantus> There's just a wrapper around it.
[04:02] <Maxdamantus> CarinArr, google for ext2fs
[04:02] <Maxdamantus> Or something.
[04:03] <Maxdamantus> ext driver for win32
[04:03] <CarinArr> er?
[04:03] <CarinArr> oh
[04:03] <Maxdamantus> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:03] <Maxdamantus> It runs fluently.
[04:03] <Maxdamantus> And doesn't have the restrictions of fat32
[04:03] <CarinArr> i don't have any fat32 drives myself
[04:04] <Maxdamantus> Neither.
[04:04] <Maxdamantus> I don't have Windows.
[04:04] <CarinArr> didn't know about ext working in windows though
[04:04] <Maxdamantus> Open source :)
[04:04] <CarinArr> no vista support yet by the looks of it
[04:04] <CarinArr> not that that's a great surprise
[04:05] <CarinArr> heh
[04:05] <SlimeyPete> ext works well in windows
[04:05] <grul> is there an easy way to write to ntfs-partitions under ubuntu?
[04:05] <SlimeyPete> !ntfs-3g
[04:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:05] <grul> oh :)
[04:05] <grul> thanks
[04:07] <roshan> how do i mount my hd0
[04:07] <Maxdamantus> roshan, what kernel?
[04:08] <Maxdamantus> Not kernel.
[04:08] <Maxdamantus> Version should I say?
[04:08] <Maxdamantus> Meh. Just go "fdisk -l"
[04:08] <roshan> kubuntu
[04:08] <Maxdamantus> And find the one you want to mount.
[04:08] <Maxdamantus> Then tell me.
[04:08] <roshan> hda1
[04:09] <roshan> fdisk shows nothin
[04:09] <roshan> lol
[04:09] <Maxdamantus> Need to be root.
[04:09] <Maxdamantus> But anyway, to mount it, do something like this:
[04:09] <Maxdamantus> sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[04:10] <roshan> hda6
[04:10] <roshan> okie thx
[04:10] <genii> Maxdamantus: I think after the && you will need sudo again
[04:10] <Maxdamantus> If it tells you you need to specify the fs type, change the mount to mount -t fat or something
[04:10] <Maxdamantus> genii, no you don't.
[04:10] <roshan> i need to work more on linux :P
[04:10] <Maxdamantus> Well, not with the default .bashrc in Ubuntu
[04:10] <Maxdamantus> Or Kubuntu.
[04:11] <genii> Maxdamantus: Ah, OK :)
[04:11] <genii> May need user option in fstab if it will be for regular users etc
[04:11] <roshan> lol it says hda6 exits
[04:11] <roshan> but cant mount it
[04:11] <Maxdamantus> What does it return?
[04:12] <roshan> mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:12] <cs5> i get the same when i try to mount my windows partition.
[04:12] <cs5> from kubuntu
[04:12] <Maxdamantus> roshan, you missed the mount parameter then.
[04:12] <Maxdamantus> What sort of fs is it?
[04:12] <roshan> fat32
[04:12] <cs5> and windows doesnt even see my ext3 partition
[04:13] <cs5> ntfs
[04:13] <Maxdamantus> sudo mount /dev/hda6 -t vfat /mnt/hda6
[04:13] <Maxdamantus> Try that.
[04:13] <anasse> salut a tt le monde
[04:13] <roshan> u need speals apps to see ext3 fs in windows
[04:13] <Maxdamantus> cs5,
[04:13] <cs5> ty
[04:13] <cs5> yes max
[04:13] <Maxdamantus> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:13] <cs5> ty
[04:13] <anasse> si qlq 1 peu m'aider sur le config de mon sagem fast 800
[04:13] <Maxdamantus> That lets you mount ext3 in Windows.
[04:14] <CarinArr> !fr
[04:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:14] <roshan> ah dont wat does -t do?
[04:14] <anasse> oki
[04:14] <cs5> nice. I have wanted to store and have access from both, good start
[04:15] <genii> roshan -t lets mount know what type of filesystem if not native ext type
[04:16] <roshan> ah nice thx..
[04:16] <roshan> how do u know so much oh god of linux?
[04:18] <Maxdamantus> Experience.
[04:18] <roshan> ah..
[04:18] <roshan> how old are u max?
[04:19] <hero> Maxdamantus: can you teach me how to pick up chicks? "man girls" didn't work :*(
[04:19] <roshan> how come kaffine cant play dvd?
[04:19] <SlimeyPete> !css
[04:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:19] <Maxdamantus> You need some pickup lines.
[04:19] <SlimeyPete> you needs decss, roshan
[04:19] <SlimeyPete> it's illegal i the states so it isn't installed by default
[04:20] <Maxdamantus> Such as "Do you sleep on your stomach? .... Can I?"
[04:20] <Maxdamantus> roshan, 15.
[04:20] <Maxdamantus> And I'm not a God of Linux.
[04:20] <SlimeyPete> roshan: goes without saying that I'm not recommending you install it if you're a yank - The Man has decreed that you're not allowed and who am I to argue ;)
[04:20] <Maxdamantus> Linus Travolds is. :)
[04:20] <roshan> oh man im older than u bahhhhh
[04:20] <hero> there is only one god of linux!
[04:21] <SlimeyPete> Torvalds? ;p
[04:21] <llutz> Maxdamantus: you mean John Travolta
[04:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Maxdamantus: hero this is a discussion for #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <Maxdamantus> llutz, no.
[04:21] <Maxdamantus> He's the scientologist from Pulp Fiction.
[04:21] <roshan> lol travolta?
[04:21] <Maxdamantus> Which was a good movie.
[04:21] <llutz> Maxdamantus: then it is Linus Torvalds
[04:22] <hero> Admiral_Chicago: i said one thing.
[04:22] <rux> it seems removing xeyes is a bad idea
[04:22] <rux> removes anything kde related too :(
[04:23] <rux> sorta
[04:24] <cs5> ty smileypete
[04:24] <cs5> i will try it
[04:25] <cs5> I am in Canada so its all good
[04:25] <cs5> ;)
[04:26] <nnoeonn> !ati
[04:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <hero> Admiral_Chicago: is there a kde program like gnucash? personal finance, that is.
[04:26] <vzduch> KMyMoney?
[04:26] <hero> it must not be that great of a program if you're ending that with a question mark
[04:27] <icecruncher> hero: Kmymoney
[04:27] <vzduch> I haven't used either of these, so I can't tell
[04:27] <icecruncher> hero: kmymoney is quite simmilar, bit nicer interface
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, Kmymoney
[04:28] <vzduch> I basically know that these 2 programs exist, that's about it
[04:28] <cs5> is there a way to read my ntfs with kubuntu, if only in read only so as i can access files on my windows partition, ie, music, video, etc.
[04:28] <hero> icecruncher: thank you.
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: mount the partition
[04:28] <vzduch> cs5: read access is in there by default
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !partition
[04:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:28] <icecruncher> hero: your welcome
[04:29] <cs5> cant mount it, or rather it will mount but still wont read it
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: you'll need to set the option as umask=0777
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: is it mounted via fstab?
[04:29] <cs5> yes
[04:30] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: paste the contents at paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:30] <cs5> oh now i get a mount error.
[04:30] <cs5> lol
[04:30] <cs5> cant find
[04:31] <Admiral_Chicago> /etc/fstab
[04:32] <cs5> yes it isnt mounted anymore, 1 moment
[04:33] <roshan> lol i cant play mp3s
[04:34] <vzduch> !mp3
[04:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <roshan> oh nice
[04:34] <junior_> nice
[04:34] <cs5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28803/
[04:37] <genii> cs5 Your ntfs partition is not listed there. Do you know which it is?
[04:38] <cs5> hda1
[04:38] <cs5> not there
[04:39] <cs5> it is in media though
[04:39] <roshan> will i get shot in the back is i go back to windows?
[04:39] <danya_> Hi everyone.. I've download a superkaramba tar.gz theme .. and while installing it I got the following error when configuring : configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:40] <danya_> and is there any easier ways to download themes !
[04:40] <vzduch> roshan: yes :D
[04:40] <CarinArr> danya_: err.. how are you trying to install it?
[04:41] <genii> cs5 Add line: /dev/hda1        /media/<dirname>   ntfs user,auto     0       0           to fstab  where dirname is a directory you make , then you can do mount -a
[04:41] <danya_> umm by the terminal ... from the install txt that came with the package :D
[04:41] <danya_> I'm this close to go back to windows :(
[04:41] <vzduch> CarinArr, danya_: looks like './configure && make && make install'.. in that case --> sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[04:41] <jhutchins_lt> danya_: bet you didn't use sudo
[04:42] <jhutchins_lt> danya_: We really don't care if you want to go back to Windows, but we'll be glad to help with kubuntu.
[04:42] <vzduch> jhutchins_lt: no need to use sudo untill 'make install'
[04:42] <dr_willis> CarinArr,  i dont recall any either.
[04:42] <dr_willis> but ive only toyed with superkaramba
[04:42] <ryaren> hi!
[04:42] <CarinArr> i run a few themes
[04:42] <danya_> so I should only add sudo aptitude install build essential ??
[04:42] <cs5> says i cant save it
[04:42] <ryaren> Somebody an help me to configure my tv-out???
[04:43] <dr_willis> Thing about all these desknets/karamba/eyecandy things..  is you realize that most all of them are useless. :)
[04:43] <cs5> lol, damn my noobieness is showing isnt it?
[04:43] <CarinArr> i like weather ones.. or did until we hit english summer
[04:43] <dr_willis> info build-essential
[04:43] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[04:43] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:43] <genii> cs5 Everyone was a newbie once
[04:43] <vzduch> cs5: can't save what?
[04:43] <dr_willis> danya_,  the package name is 'build-essential'
[04:43] <cs5> fstab with the changes
[04:43] <CarinArr> and i'm using monitors for different things when i'm working
[04:43] <dr_willis> When i was a newbie - i was learning on the C64
[04:43] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: What are you using to edit it?
[04:44] <cs5> i just put it right into fstab and went to file>save
[04:44] <dr_willis> cs5,  you did run the e4ditor with root permissions?
[04:44] <vzduch> cs5: edit w/ sudo, otherwise there's no way of saving it, as it's on a directory only root has write access to
[04:44] <genii> cs5 It may not let you save, it depends if you opened the file with sudo privelege
[04:44] <dr_willis> 'when doing somthing system wide - one must aquire root permissions. some how'
[04:44] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo
[04:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:44] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu
[04:44] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:44] <genii> cs5 To edit in sudo mode, use kdesu kate
[04:45] <roshan> vzduch: hey u have a licence for tht?
[04:45] <genii> cs5 then open the file that way
[04:45] <vzduch> roshan: I personally don't kill anyone
[04:45] <CarinArr> how weird
[04:45] <roshan> ah so ur a godfather
[04:45] <vzduch> but you asked a dumb question, so you got a dumb answer *hrhr*
[04:45] <CarinArr> glxinfo: Error: unable to open display (null)
[04:45] <roshan> hehe
[04:46] <roshan> ok guys cya..
[04:46] <roshan> thx a lot
[04:46] <dr_willis> CarinArr,  what command did you use?
[04:46] <roshan> may the noobs be answered
[04:46] <CarinArr> oh lol.
[04:46] <CarinArr> didn't realise that was my remote terminal
[04:46] <vzduch> o0
[04:47] <dr_willis> 0_o :)
[04:47] <CarinArr> just one of em days
[04:47] <dr_willis> I tend to set up different color terminals for my remotes
[04:47] <CarinArr> i should do really
[04:47] <genii> dr_willis: Good idea. Like red screen for root gui
[04:47] <dr_willis> genii,  BINGO!
[04:47] <dr_willis> :)
[04:48] <dr_willis> make some alias's 'rootterm' 'fileserverterm' and so forth that pop up xterms with different colors
[04:48] <cs5> kate wont even see fstab to open it
[04:48] <ryaren> Somebody an help me to configure my tv-out???
[04:48] <ryaren> c
[04:48] <genii> cs5 Try: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[04:49] <genii> work calls, brb
[04:49] <dario> hi all i need help
[04:49] <cs5> that worked
[04:49] <dr_willis> ryaren,  and whats the video card?
[04:49] <CarinArr> dario: what's up?
[04:50] <dario> i'm trying to install a program
[04:50] <draguin> Somebody is french here O_o ?
[04:50] <ryaren> dr_willis: Nvidia Geforce 4 ti4200
[04:50] <vzduch> !fr | draguin
[04:50] <ubotu> draguin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:50] <dario> i have correctly done .configure
[04:50] <draguin> Thnaks ^^
[04:50] <dario> ./configure
[04:50] <CarinArr> dario: okay...
[04:50] <dario> but when i do sudo make
[04:50] <dario> i get an error
[04:50] <cs5> it saved too genii
[04:50] <CarinArr> dario: is it more than one line?
[04:51] <CarinArr> !pastebin | dario
[04:51] <ubotu> dario: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:51] <cs5> i still get error when i try to mount but its different now
[04:51] <dr_willis> ryaren,  http://pastebin.ca/605892   My xorg config file. with TV out + DVI output for my setup.
[04:51] <cs5> no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:52] <dario> yes
[04:52] <dario> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28807/
[04:52] <dario> carin
[04:52] <dario> are you here?
[04:52] <genii> cs5 OK: kdesu kate /etc/fstab    again, then go to the end of the new line and hit enter twice. then resave
[04:52] <dr_willis> ryaren,  nvidia-xconfig  -A      ( for info on nvidia's Xorg tweaker tool)  I beliuve i just used nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[04:52] <CarinArr> dario: you're missing a headerfile..
[04:52] <dr_willis> ryaren,  BACKUP your existing xorg.conf file
[04:52] <vzduch> dario: what is that anyway?
[04:53] <ryaren> okay
[04:53] <CarinArr> dario: seconding vzduch's question.. what are you trying to compile?
[04:53] <ryaren> i try
[04:53] <dario> it was kaffeine-sc-plugin
[04:53] <vzduch> which is good for what?
[04:53] <dario> it still is
[04:53] <cs5> folder doesnt exist....lol. Makes sense since i pointed at a nonexistent folder.lol
[04:54] <cs5> ty though. I think I am getting this a bit.
[04:54] <dario> it is a plugin for kaffeine to view dvb using card
[04:54] <CarinArr> dario: basically, the compiler is saying that the file included (asm/unaligned.h) doesn't exist..
[04:54] <ryaren> dr_willis: maybe is it enough if I take this command? nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[04:54] <genii> cs5 :) Yes make sure to do   sudo mkdir /media/<somename>   that is the same as the fstab entry of course
[04:54] <cs5> TY genii
[04:54] <dario> and what should i do
[04:55] <genii> cs5 np Tho I need to go do some work stuff again for a minute or 2. brb again
[04:55] <dr_willis> ryaren,  you need to be root. (use sudo) and i belive thats about ALL i did on this box to get the tv going.
[04:55] <CarinArr> dario: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286679
[04:55] <cs5> awesome, got it, ty so much
[04:56] <dr_willis> ryaren,  if you want JUST the tv going.. :) you can just hook up a tv. unhook the monitor.. and reboot.
[04:56] <dr_willis> ryaren,  at least with my cards they default to the tv out if no monitor hooked up
[04:56] <ryaren> dr_willis: no i want to go both of them
[04:57] <CarinArr> dario: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:57] <CarinArr> then try to compile again
[04:57] <dario> ok i try
[04:58] <ryaren> dr_willis: it doesn't work... :( I rebooted the X and nothing happened on my TV..
[04:58] <cs5> genii, i am going over to my windows for a moment, i will return also, ty again for your help.
[04:58] <dario> it says that i already have the latest version
[04:59] <ryaren> dr_willis: where can I see some kind of log file about the X?
[05:00] <CarinArr> dario: try sudo apt-get install libuclibc-dev
[05:00] <CarinArr> then try make again
[05:00] <CarinArr> not that i can see why that would be required.. but it's the only package containing asm/unaligned.h;)
[05:01] <dario> ehhehe
[05:01] <dario> i'm try ./configure first
[05:01] <dr_willis> ryaren,  /var/log/ somewhere
[05:02] <dario> same error
[05:03] <BluesKaj> genii that would be good , then amarok could play good music in the elevator , not that muzak crap :)
[05:04] <CarinArr> dario: didn't particularly expect that to work
[05:04] <danya_> ok now i have another problem im getting this error error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:04] <dr_willis> install the needed X developer files.
[05:04] <exaro> just changed to ubuntu and i must say i love it :-)
[05:05] <dr_willis> and no i dont know their names. :) i tend to just search for 'dev' and start installing things that look close.
[05:05] <CarinArr> dario: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[05:05] <CarinArr> possibly
[05:05] <danya_> how do I do that ? ..
[05:05] <exaro> been exploring it for the last 2 hours playing around and so on.. fun fun :-D
[05:06] <ryaren> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28808/plain/ It tells only one device connected...
[05:06] <dr_willis> danya_,  fire up the pakcage manager you like to use..  :)   xserver-xorg-dev   might be what you need.
[05:06] <dario> same
[05:06] <CarinArr> dario: have you redone ./configure?
[05:06] <dr_willis> ryaren,  interesting.  Could try my sample xorg.conf file. but thats for my nvidia 6800 card.
[05:06] <lebies> hi folks, i'm having trouble getting fglrx drivers running, after turfing Ubuntu and installing Kubuntu. Anyone know of a comprehensive decent howto to get my drivers properly loaded, then beryl thereafter, pls?
[05:06] <dario> not this time
[05:06] <CarinArr> dario: then try that first
[05:07] <dr_willis> lebies,  id have to susggest avoiding Beryl with ati stuff.. at this time.
[05:07] <genii> BluesKaj: Actually i was thinking of making a controller for it. right now it is a manually operated elevator. But a linux brain as the switching device would be interesting :) Also music in there would be nice LOL
[05:07] <ryaren> dr_willis: What sort of TV do u have? I have an old one with 640x480 or 800x600 resolutions and 50hz...
[05:07] <jhutchins_lt> !beryl | lebies
[05:07] <ubotu> lebies: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <dario> it didn't work
[05:07] <dr_willis> lebies,  about all ive done - is install kubuntu, installed that 'restricted-manager' tool, and ran it. :)
[05:07] <CarinArr> dario: same error message?
[05:08] <jhutchins_lt> lebies: Beryl has merged back into compiz, but it will take a while for that to percolate down to our level.
[05:08] <dr_willis> ryaren,  just a normal tv with svideo in.
[05:08] <lebies> hmm, had it running well in Ubuntu !
[05:08] <dario> yes
[05:08] <dario> :/
[05:08] <jhutchins_lt> lebies: Sorry, that factoid used to point to a howto.
[05:08] <lebies> damn!
[05:08] <dr_willis> ryaren,  if i sent higher res to it. my video card converts it down i do belive.
[05:08] <ryaren> dr_willis: Can u paste you config file again? I wasted it
[05:08] <CarinArr> dario: okay. sometimes you need to actually give ./configure the actual path to your x dev files.
[05:08] <dr_willis> ryaren,  http://pastebin.ca/605892   My xorg config file. with TV out + DVI output for my setup.
[05:09] <CarinArr> it's painful enough to fix your own compilation problems, never mind others
[05:09] <CarinArr> lol
[05:09] <lebies> dr_willis: tks, i'll give it a whirl
[05:09] <dr_willis> CarinArr,  heh.. could see what hes compiling and try to compile it yourself.
[05:09] <CarinArr> i could
[05:09] <dario> lol
[05:09] <dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[05:09] <jhutchins_lt> lebies: Check http://beryl-project.org and http://www.opencompositing.org/
[05:09] <CarinArr> shh
[05:09] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[05:10] <CarinArr> dario: do you have a link to what you're trying to compile and i'll give it a shot
[05:10] <lebies> jhutchins_lt: tks, will do as well
[05:10] <dario> hum you want the file?
[05:10] <hero> ok, the only problem with kmymoney is that it tells me i'm in debt.
[05:10] <nnoeonn> Hiya guys
[05:10] <CarinArr> dario: rather a link to where you downloaded the file from if possible
[05:10] <CarinArr> lol hero
[05:10] <wsjunior> hehe
[05:10] <BluesKaj> genii, actually a manually operated elevator is by far safer than a processor driven type ...I've had experience with both at my workplace and you don't to be in a processor controlled elevator during a t-storm or a power failure  :(
[05:11] <BluesKaj> don't want to be
[05:11] <dr_willis> uoq s,ndo 
[05:11] <dr_willis> :)
[05:11] <nnoeonn> BluesKaj, I've tried to get my vide drovers to work, but nothing happens :S
[05:11] <vzduch> wtf?
[05:11] <BluesKaj> well fix it , dr_willis
[05:12] <llutz> dr_willis: headstand!
[05:12] <dario> http://dvb-upload.com/index.php?action=download&pid=112021
[05:12] <dr_willis> su
[05:12] <vzduch> dr_willis: how do you do that? o0
[05:12] <genii> BluesKaj: This is true :) But I have to operate the thing and it drives me nust, ppl ring to go 1 floor up or down, etc etc
[05:12] <dr_willis> vzduch,  no idea.   Heh- honestly.
[05:12] <genii> nust=nuts
[05:12] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, have you rebooted since installing the drivers ?
[05:12] <dr_willis> Someone did it the other day. I just cut/pasted it to a file.
[05:12] <vzduch> o0
[05:12] <nnoeonn> Yeha i have
[05:13] <nnoeonn> Yeah*
[05:13] <CarinArr> dario, righto, give me a sec
[05:13] <nnoeonn> I got a readeon x300 card
[05:14] <dario> ok
[05:14] <nnoeonn> I've installed the drivers i can find on adept manager
[05:14] <nnoeonn> but they wont work properly
[05:14] <dr_willis> some of the newer ati cards are a bit flakey with the fglrx drivers
[05:15] <dr_willis> my x200 in my laptop. works.. but crashes often.
[05:15] <nnoeonn> dr_willis: wich one should i use then?
[05:15] <dr_willis> ati drivers are slower. but more reliable.
[05:15] <dr_willis> 'ati' vs 'fglrx'
[05:15] <CarinArr> dario: when you run ./configure does it find Qt okay?
[05:15] <nnoeonn> just want to watch dvd's and shit like that :S:S
[05:16] <dario> yes configure works
[05:16] <dario> and it says at the end run make now
[05:16] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  ati driver should be fast enough for that.. try it and see
[05:16] <CarinArr> okay, just checking;)
[05:17] <nnoeonn> Ati drivers, i install them through adapt manager, right dr_willis?
[05:17] <dr_willis> !ati
[05:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  i just used the 'restricted-manager' tool
[05:18] <nnoeonn> i use kubuntu, so where the heck is the "restricted-manager" tool? xD
[05:18] <dr_willis> install it
[05:18] <nnoeonn> where? O.o
[05:18] <dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[05:18] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[05:18] <nnoeonn> I'm kind of a noob
[05:18] <dr_willis> with the package manager..
[05:19] <GrueTamer> nnoeonn: in the konsole, do "sudo aptitude install restricted-manager"
[05:20] <nnoeonn> already installing it ;) but thnx anyway ^
[05:20] <ryaren> dr_willis: Nothing happens :(
[05:20] <genii> afk a bit
[05:20] <GrueTamer> k
[05:20] <CarinArr> dario: on phone..
[05:20] <dario> ok
[05:21] <markgreene> Hey everyone. I am running the SIP Client Twinkle and I would like to record the audio that is coming out of my speakers. What's the best way to go about this?
[05:22] <danya_> dr_willis I have installed that package and still cant find the X includes
[05:23] <vzduch> markgreene: tried KRecord?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> markgreene,where the audio is getting into your soundcard is where you should setup an app to record
[05:24] <dr_willis> danya_,  as i said earlier - i tend to search/install anything that even LOOKS close.. :)
[05:24] <gdiebel> what command triggers an acpi suspend?
[05:24] <markgreene> vzduch: No I have not tried that. I will now thank you
[05:24] <dr_willis> danya_,  search for  'dev' and see aht has X in it :) and start installing.
[05:25] <markgreene> BluesKaj: I don't understand the explanation
[05:25] <danya_> okay :) .. thank u guys I've only been using ubuntu for a couple of days now
[05:26] <BluesKaj> what source are you using , then setup an record app like krecord to record the audio from that source
[05:26] <markgreene> vzduch: When I launch Krec and then try to dial out with my SIP Client - The SIP Client tells me that it no londer has access to /dev/dsp. I am assuming because KRec has taken control
[05:26] <llutz> gdiebel: suspend-to-disk: sudo echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep
[05:26] <vzduch> looks like your SIP client uses OSS for sound
[05:26] <nnoeonn> doing the "binarydriverhowto" now, seems to be working... but it's made for ubuntu, not kubuntu, does that have any effect? :S
[05:27] <jhutchins_lt> nnoeonn: Not really.
[05:27] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  nope.
[05:27] <dr_willis> only the documention is a bit different
[05:27] <nnoeonn> Then, what should i do ? xD
[05:27] <markgreene> vzduch: Yes it does, but I can set it to ALSA. Should I do that?
[05:27] <dr_willis> some day perhaps gnome and kde will join loveing hands and get their acts totether. :)
[05:27] <vzduch> dunno if using a sound server alleviates the problem, I tend to turn sound servers off
[05:27] <nnoeonn> srry, misunderstood xD
[05:27] <jhutchins_lt> nnoeonn: Ubuntu just uses the gnome desktop and defaults to some different apps.
[05:28] <nnoeonn> :P
[05:28] <ryaren> Sby can help me in nvtv???
[05:28] <dr_willis> kedit, gedit,     kterminal, gterminal,  ksudo, gsudo. (NAh! cant do that!)
[05:28] <genii> dr_willis: I agree entirely
[05:28] <jthomas> good day!  can anyone tell me how to launch my home computer's Gaim via SSH?  I don't want to run it here, I just want to start it from here so that it is running at home.
[05:29] <dr_willis> jthomas,  then what display is it to show up on?
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: Ahem, that's kdesu, not ksudo.
[05:29] <jthomas> :0
[05:29] <karol_> could anyone help me? i have hsdpa modem (ppp0). Firefox works fine but Konqueror doesn't seem to be working. It can't find google or any other page.
[05:29] <genii> jthomas just issue: sudo gaim -d
[05:29] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  as i was pointing out - it SHOULD be :) heh...
[05:29] <vzduch> dr_willis: it's all about diversity.. :)    besides, KDE was already up & running when Gnome was still freakin' alpha
[05:29] <jthomas> genii: why sudo ?
[05:29] <dr_willis> Divestiy in nameing! yes! thats what we need!
[05:29] <genii> jthomas This will detach it from the console so it runs after the terminal is closed
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> KDE being derived from CDE.
[05:29] <ubuntu_> hey
[05:29] <FireHazard17> dont know much about ssh but would you just run "gaim" when you ssh in?
[05:29] <jthomas> genii: won't it start as root though?
[05:30] <nnoeonn> well guys, gotta go for an hour or so, but ill finish this up later ;)
[05:30] <dr_willis> I rember the old days of xterm, xwhatever, xspiffytool
[05:30] <danya_> dr_willis: I'm not actually sure what to install ..
[05:30] <genii> jthomas: Well, if you are logged as same username which the machine is uding by default may not need sudo then
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> FireHazard17: Suppose you could.  You might need -X on the command line if it's not configured for X forwarding.
[05:30] <vzduch> jhutchins_lt: as to the idea behind it, yes.. but it was coded from scratch as CDE is/was non-open-source
[05:30] <CarinArr> dario: how did you get past the unaligned.h problem?
[05:30] <dr_willis> danya_,  me either.. search for -dev' and see what looks right, and install in a shotgunn fashiin is what i do. :) I DO have a 500gb hd however.
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> FireHazard17: I run stuff like kmail, korganizer, and pan from my desktop so that I don't have to try to sync different copies of the data.
[05:30] <genii> jthomas: There are many lectures to be given about running as root user by default
[05:30] <dario> i didn't past it
[05:30] <jthomas> genii: so 'gaim -d' will attach it to my regular home desktop, so that my girlfriend will see it running?
[05:30] <dr_willis> !info xlibs-devv
[05:30] <ubotu> Package xlibs-devv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:30] <dr_willis> !info xlibs-dev
[05:30] <dario> i need help with it
[05:30] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB
[05:31] <danya_> dr_willis: I only have a 100gb hd :P
[05:31] <dr_willis> !info x-dev
[05:31] <ubotu> x-dev: dummy package for transition purposes. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.10-1 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:31] <nnoeonn> "only"
[05:31] <markgreene> vzduch: I don't understand what you mean by the sound server
[05:31] <FireHazard17> i only have 160
[05:31] <jthomas> genii: i am not running as root, anywhere.  i am ssh'ed in as my normal user.
[05:31] <CarinArr> dario: didn't you said you "had another problem now"
[05:31] <CarinArr> ?
[05:31] <ryaren> !nvtv
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <dario> no
[05:31] <ryaren> !info nvtv
[05:31] <dr_willis> danya_,   thats plenty.  Unless of course ya got 158gb of Porn.
[05:31] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (feisty), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:31] <FireHazard17> but it has to share between windows and linux
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> danya_: Kubuntu will run just fine on a 10-20G drive.
[05:31] <genii> jthomas An additional switch or 2 may be needed to attach it to the proper X session. but there I would need to go google it or so on
[05:31] <FireHazard17> dr\
[05:31] <FireHazard17> oops
[05:31] <dr_willis> danya_,  xorg-dev looks good also!@
[05:31] <danya_> lol willis :p
[05:31] <FireHazard17> dr_willis: i do
[05:32] <vzduch> markgreene: sound servers (in theory) allocate resources to applications so that you can use more than one app to play/record sound on the same device
[05:32] <genii> jthomas dr_willis may remember offhand faster than I how to specify what X session to latch onto
[05:32] <jthomas> genii: thats what i need to know, how to run it and attach it to the proper display.  is it an ssh thing?  a gaim-specific thing?? or...?
[05:32] <dr_willis> !find telepathy
[05:32] <ubotu> Found: galago-telepathy-feed, gossip-telepathy, libqttelepathyclient-dev, libqttelepathyclient0, libqttelepathycommon-dev (and 19 others)
[05:32] <FireHazard17> vzduch: arent that what mixers do?
[05:32] <Nyle> dr_willis: what up
[05:32] <genii> jthomas not ssh or gaim thing. more of how X itself runs
[05:32] <gdiebel> llutz: if I do that will /etc/acpi/suspend.d be used?
[05:32] <jthomas> dr_willis: any suggestions for starting an app and having it attach to the logged in user at display :0 ?
[05:33] <markgreene> vzduch: So how should I go about making KRecord and Twinkle (the SIP client) play nice?
[05:33] <llutz> gdiebel: no
[05:33] <Nyle> dr_willis: the ubuntu netinst is available on the archive.ubuntu.com but its not documented anywhere
[05:33] <vzduch> FireHazard17, markgreene at the same time, that is
[05:33] <Nyle> dr_willis: I finally found it
[05:33] <dr_willis> jthomas,  you would have to use the xhost+ stuff, to get permissions to do so. export the DISPLAY properly, then run the app
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> jthomas: So you want to launch it remotely, but have it display on the machine you're connecting to, not the machine you're actually on?
[05:33] <gdiebel> llutz: so what is the proper way in ubuntu?
[05:33] <vzduch> markgreene: but you can try to go ALSA
[05:33] <cs5> genii, can you help again, I have mounted the partition, but I am no longer sure it is my NTFS volume as I still cannot access or modify. I even checked in windows and it doesn't show the new folder that I made. I made one in windows physically and am still unable to access it
[05:33] <dr_willis> jthomas,  easier to 'ssh -X thebox' and rin the app. :) a bit slower.. but safer
[05:34] <llutz> gdiebel: i don't know, suspend never worked here so i gave it up :(
[05:34] <markgreene> vzduch: I just did and get the same results. Both programs cannot use the resource at the same time
[05:34] <jthomas> dr_willis: but i don't want to forward X to my current display; I want to start it here and have it run at home.
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> jthomas: Generally that doesn't work, but I'm sure you could figure out how to make it work.
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> jthomas: The thing is you not only need to attach it to the correct display (:0), you need xauth to allow you to access that display.
[05:35] <dario> today linux wants to give me problems today
[05:36] <jthomas> jhutchins_lt: really?  its a network operating system, this is one of its benefits!  i am logged in as the same user so i should have access, no?  i have root access if needed..
[05:36] <genii> cs5 OK but you will need some patience
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> jthomas: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html
[05:36] <dr_willis> jthomas,  problem will be getting the permissions to do so. (the xhost ) part.
[05:36] <cs5> np, i am full of it. I have lots of time too, so no rush, ty
[05:37] <dr_willis> jthomas,  or ssh over, run vncserver, and run it inside the vncsession :)
[05:37] <vzduch> markgreene: gotta be an issue w/ your SIP client.. I just tried playing music on the same device w/ Audacious _and_ amaroK.. works fine
[05:37] <jthomas> dr_willis and jhutchins_lt: thanks for the assistance so far!  i'll check that link...
[05:37] <genii> cs5 As i understand, you only wish to access the files on the ntfs drive from linux, and not write to the drive from there, yes?
[05:37] <CarinArr> dario: hang on, might have fixed it
[05:37] <cs5> Yes. writing would be a bonus but at this point reading is fine.
[05:37] <dario> ho
[05:37] <dario> really?
[05:37] <dario> what was the problem?
[05:38] <markgreene> vzduch: must be
[05:38] <genii> cs5 Ok. So the directory which you cannot access in windows is some folder you made from inside windows, not some folder you made from linux, yes?
[05:39] <cs5> yes, i tried to make it in linux first, and when it wasn't showing in windows, i made one there.
[05:39] <cs5> same name
[05:40] <CarinArr> dario: great.. solved the unaligned.h problem only to uncover about a million others
[05:40] <dario> lol
[05:40] <genii> cs5 So when you are in linux, you can view the ntfs files on /dev/hda1 or it just says that the drive is mounted but then you cannot view any files?
[05:40] <vzduch> cs5: can you make a screenshot of you partitioning scheme? (from qtparted, e.g.)
[05:40] <dario> tell me ho to solve unaligned.h
[05:40] <dr_willis> !find unaligned
[05:40] <dr_willis> !find unaligned.h
[05:40] <ubotu> Package/file unaligned does not exist in feisty
[05:40] <ubotu> File unaligned.h found in asterisk-dev, libaal-dev, libuclibc-dev, linux-headers-2.6.20-15, xen-doc-2.6.16 (and 2 others)
[05:41] <cs5> i will try , yes. Genii. It is mounted but i am not able to enter it.
[05:41] <dr_willis> there we go.
[05:41] <kury> Hey kubuntu guys... I have a friend that I have recently got setup with kubuntu but he has just emailed me saying he's got the GUI all hosed up...    what command can he run to restart X or whatever the default login manager is with kubuntu.. (kdm?)
[05:41] <dr_willis> depends on how he hosed it..
[05:41] <genii> work, afk
[05:41] <CarinArr> dario: you can install linux-source and copy the unaligned.h from asm-yourkerneltype into /usr/include
[05:41] <nnoeonn> ok, i've installed restricted-manager, how do i start it? xD
[05:41] <dr_willis>  kdm is the login manager, but if ne messed up the x configuration, restarting KDM wont fix anything
[05:41] <CarinArr> it's ugly though
[05:41] <kury> dr_willis, sounds like he just need to create a new/unscrewed xorg.conf..
[05:41] <CarinArr> and it doesn't make it compile
[05:42] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  type the command in the shell.. give ya 1 guess what the command name is... :)
[05:42] <lebies> hey dr_willis, tks for tip, that was the best 1-liner i've had in long time :) !
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> kury: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will kill the current session and restart kdm.
[05:42] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  hint type res<tab>
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> !fixres
[05:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:42] <cs5> Genii, How do you do that exactly. Sry but I am lost at qtparted
[05:42] <nnoeonn> O.o
[05:42] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  :)
[05:42] <nnoeonn> ...xD
[05:42] <nnoeonn> You're teasing me :(
[05:42] <kury> dr_willis, I have him all setup to create a new xorg.conf... but I'm not sure how to restart kdm from the command line
[05:42] <lebies> almost too damned easy, after grovelling around and re-installing a few times
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Forget qtparted, in a console do sudo fdisk -l
[05:42] <dr_willis> Bzzzzz too late....  ~$ restricted-manager
[05:42] <dr_willis> heh heh.
[05:43] <dario> where is asm-mykernelttype?
[05:43] <dr_willis> do not pass g0. do not collect $200 :)
[05:43] <Minataku> Heya genii, dr_willis :3
[05:43] <vzduch> jhutchins_lt: that'd work as well
[05:43] <nnoeonn> should be something like ./restricted-manager
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> kury: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:43] <ubuntu_> does anyone have problem with 7.10's networking? i installed newest packages yesterday and networking doesnt work anymore
[05:43] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  ./would be for things in the current dir.
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> !not working
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <cs5> k. gonna pastebin
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> !doesn't work
[05:43] <vzduch> ubuntu_: /join #ubuntu+1 for questions on Gutsy
[05:43] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:43] <nnoeonn> should be something like ./restricted-manager, right dr_willis?
[05:43] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  since you instralled a program.. its in the normal PATH. no need for ./
[05:43] <kury> jhutchins, really??  I thought that was a gentoo init setup?
[05:43] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  makes sence eh?
[05:43] <CarinArr> dario: you have to install linux-source, untar it, find the folder called asm-generic (if you have a generic kernel), copy the unaligned.h into /usr/include/asm
[05:43] <dr_willis>   ./mylocalprogram
[05:43] <nnoeonn> kinda :P
[05:43] <dr_willis> systemwideprogram
[05:44] <dr_willis> Kids these days! :) dont make me rant about my Vic-20!
[05:44] <cs5> http://www.pastebin.ca/605955
[05:45] <kury> dr_willis, jhutchins Thanks guys...
[05:45] <ryaren> Do you know a useful guida to NVTV?
[05:45] <dr_willis> !nvtv
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <dr_willis> !info ntvt
[05:45] <ubotu> Package ntvt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:45] <dr_willis> !info nvtv
[05:45] <nnoeonn> dr_willis, it says i dont need any drivers ?! :S
[05:45] <CarinArr> dario: i think i'd give up on this to be honest.. compilation is very iffy, and there's no guarantees it will actually work once compiled (if you get it to compile)
[05:45] <nnoeonn> (so yes i got it open xD)
[05:45] <CarinArr> dario: can you not contact the author?
[05:45] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (feisty), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:45] <dario> no i can't :/
[05:45] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,   you clicked on its icon.. and theres no 'fglrx/or whatever' options to check?
[05:46] <ryaren> nothin :(
[05:46] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  i do belive you need to do a 'kdesu restricted-drivers'
[05:46] <dr_willis> Perhaps ? let me chedk
[05:46] <nnoeonn> no i didnt click on its icon, i typed sudo restricted-manager, dr_willis
[05:47] <dr_willis> that worked. :)
[05:47] <BluesKaj> ryaren, http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/
[05:47] <dr_willis> i ran restricted manager. and it shows my nvidia , and ndas drivers here.
[05:47] <vzduch> cs5: try mounting manually --> sudo mount -t ntfs -o defaults /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 (make sure /media/hda1 exists)
[05:47] <nnoeonn> dr_willis: "your hardware doesn't need any restricted drivers"
[05:47] <dr_willis> gnome/kde have a applet/button that can show/make a shortcut to that tool.. thats what im thinking of.
[05:47] <vzduch> then ls -l /media/hda1
[05:47] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  interesting.. whats you rhardware again?
[05:48] <cs5> mount point does not exist
[05:48] <CarinArr> dario: what is this plugin for again?
[05:48] <nnoeonn> I got a ibm lenevo r52 with a radeon x300 card :P
[05:48] <vzduch> cs5: then create it --> sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[05:48] <dr_willis> could be it dosent see/know the fglrx drivers support that card..
[05:48] <dr_willis> but onb my x200m based laptop. it  installed them for it.
[05:48] <nnoeonn> ...
[05:48] <nnoeonn> :(
[05:49] <cs5> goodexist
[05:49] <dr_willis> but you may be as well off. just using the normal 'ati' drivers
[05:49] <BluesKaj> dr_willis,the x300 is supported by the fglrx driver
[05:49] <cs5> then tried mounting again and got a responce thats different
[05:49] <vzduch> what response?
[05:49] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  x200 is also.. but the thing is flakey. :)
[05:49] <cs5> udo mount -t ntfs -o defaults /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[05:49] <cs5> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy
[05:49] <cs5> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/LinuxMedia
[05:50] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj, i can't get it to work :S
[05:50] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  of course this dfosent say why the restricted-manager isent seeing that.
[05:50] <BluesKaj> mine's a x200G , it runs fine
[05:50] <vzduch> cs5: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[05:50] <CarinArr> right i need to go shop
[05:50] <CarinArr> see you all later
[05:50] <vzduch> then repeat the above
[05:50] <cs5> ah because it was mounted in fstab?
[05:50] <vzduch> I guess so
[05:51] <cs5> no output is good, yes?
[05:51] <nnoeonn> So, blueskaj and dr_willis, what should i do :S
[05:51] <dr_willis> fstab dosent really do the mounting. :) it defines what gets mounted/where.
[05:51] <vzduch> exactly
[05:51] <BluesKaj> but of course i installed the modded and patched version from this tutorial , which a lot of ppl have trouble with , dunno why  : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[05:51] <vzduch> cs5: now ls -l /media/hda1 <-- pastebin the output
[05:51] <nnoeonn> I installed some "3d accelerator" from adept manager.... :S
[05:51] <BluesKaj> trouble with installing , not the driver
[05:52] <nnoeonn> The driver was installed, but it doesnt work :S:S
[05:52] <cs5> no output
[05:52] <BluesKaj> do 'fgl_glxgears' in the terminal, nnoeonn
[05:53] <vzduch> then it's the wrong partition..
[05:53] <nnoeonn> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[05:53] <nnoeonn> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:53] <nnoeonn> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[05:53] <nnoeonn>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[05:53] <nnoeonn>   Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
[05:53] <nnoeonn>   Serial number of failed request:  30
[05:53] <nnoeonn>   Current serial number in output stream:  30
[05:53] <nnoeonn> Srry for the spam
[05:53] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,   not sure.  'restricted-manager' shows my ati x200m card on my laptop.
[05:53] <nnoeonn> My wnt even start
[05:53] <cs5> it says in conquerer that could not enter /media/hda1
[05:54] <cs5> but the properties are right now
[05:54] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  your X is working however at this time?
[05:54] <nnoeonn> just getting a error message telling me i dont need any restricted drivers
[05:54] <nnoeonn> yeah
[05:54] <vzduch> or does anyone know if you _need_ to mount NTFS volumes w/ a charset indicated in the options?
[05:54] <nnoeonn> it's working just fine
[05:54] <cs5> is it because the other stuff is in fstab now?
[05:54] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  try a  #--->       grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf     see what driver its using.
[05:55] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  should be a 'ati' or 'fglrx' line in the output
[05:55] <vzduch> cs5: if you unmount and remount to a different path the fstab has no say about it any more :)
[05:55] <cs5> ok
[05:55] <nnoeonn> srry for the spam now:
[05:56] <nnoeonn>  Driver          "kbd"
[05:56] <nnoeonn>         Driver          "mouse"
[05:56] <nnoeonn>         Driver          "synaptics"
[05:56] <nnoeonn>         Driver          "wacom"
[05:56] <nnoeonn>         Driver          "wacom"
[05:56] <nnoeonn>         Driver          "wacom"
[05:56] <nnoeonn>         Driver          "fglrx"
[05:56] <vzduch> even if you mount to the same path.. it takes whatever mount options were last used, so in this case those you entered manually
[05:56] <dr_willis> just need the relevant line
[05:56] <dr_willis> NOT the whole thing
[05:56] <vzduch> !pastebin | nnoeonn
[05:56] <ubotu> nnoeonn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:56] <dr_willis> Note  it says fglrx.. you ARE using the fglrx drivers then.
[05:56] <jthomas> dr_willis and jhutchins_lt: thanks for the link on xauth but it was waaay over my head.  i am looking for specific HowTo or commands, not an abstract writeup on a concept that I don't yet use or know...  anyways i guess i can live without starting apps remotely for now.  thanks again.
[05:56] <nnoeonn> aah, sry :S
[05:56] <cs5> Genii if that is not the dev for that frive is there a way i can find out what it really is?
[05:56] <dr_willis> jthomas,  thats why vnc is handy,
[05:56] <nnoeonn> brb, gonna test ine thing
[05:57] <jthomas> dr_willis: yes vnc is another problem that i've never solved in 5 years of linux.
[05:57] <dr_willis> jthomas,  its rather simple what you wan tto do.. BUT not save to be just allowing xauth restrictions to be removed.
[05:57] <dr_willis> jthomas,  i find the 'vnc4server' program to be the best of the bunch.   most ofthe others dont set up the right defaults for my needs
[05:57] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, alt+f2 , type this' kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf '..copy and paste to pastebin so we can look at your whole file.
[05:57] <dr_willis> jthomas,  and i have to edit their configs to work how iu want them to
[05:57] <BluesKaj> !pasterbin
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasterbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[05:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <vzduch> cs5: according to the output of your fdisk it should be the right partition.. no idea as to why it won't work
[05:58] <dr_willis> i startedusing vnc 5+ yrs ago when it first came out. :) its been tweeked/ and twiddled with so much. its a bit of a mess
[05:58] <jthomas> dr_willis: every time i try it maybe lets me into my KDE but never as the session that is logged in at home
[05:58] <Jacob90> how do i uninstall an application from the terminal or konsole?
[05:58] <jhutchins_lt> tightvnc works well for me, but I've mostly used it for remote windows desktops.  Now that rdesktop supports XP's internal protocol, I don't even do that much. Oh, one nt4 server...
[05:58] <cs5> oh
[05:58] <nnoeonn> kk, blueskaj
[05:58] <cs5> alright, well ty for trying genii
[05:58] <jthomas> dr_willis: but often enough its just a graphical X Shell but no KDE proper
[05:58] <vzduch> cs5: and no, I am not genii ;)
[05:58] <jhutchins_lt> jthomas: I believe the trick is to start it from within the session.
[05:58] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  i tend to use vnc locally, for 'hidden' desktops that are running just icewm+ktorrent, and so forth.
[05:58] <cs5> lol
[05:58] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  that way they stay going even after I log off. :)
[05:58] <cs5> sry vzduch
[05:59] <Jacob90> how do i uninstall an application from the terminal or konsole?
[05:59] <cs5> ty
[05:59] <jthomas> jhutchins_lt: yes that would be another issue that I asked about already today -- starting an app and attaching it to a running session.
[05:59] <Jacob90> anybody?
[05:59] <dr_willis> !apt
[05:59] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:59] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: I just use ssh + screen.
[05:59] <dr_willis> Jacob90,  read up on 'apt-get' cmmand and its ussage
[05:59] <nnoeonn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28811/
[05:59] <dr_willis>  Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[05:59] <jthomas> ok i gotta work, see yas!
[05:59] <Jacob90> alright thanks
[06:01] <dr_willis> too often - i find vncserver setup to do what i DONT want. :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> i want it to read the users .vnc/xstartup and rin whats  in there. :) not give me a fancy kdm login.
[06:02] <cs5> does anyone else have an ntfs and ext3 partitions that has succesfully mounted and used the ntfs from linux
[06:02] <dr_willis> Yes. all the time.
[06:02] <nnoeonn> dr_willis, reading it?
[06:02] <dr_willis> with the proper fstab entry - its easy cs5
[06:02] <cs5> can you help me?
[06:03] <danya_> what's a Qt ? headers and libraries ?
[06:03] <dr_willis> # /dev/hda1
[06:03] <dr_willis> UUID=0C4CF0DF4CF0C50C /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:03] <dr_willis> is my exampkle fstab entry.
[06:03] <vzduch> I have NTFS mounted read/write.. but no freakin' idea what the heck is going on w/ your partition
[06:03] <cs5> i have gotten some done with the kind help of genii, but I am still not able to access it even after mounting it
[06:03] <dr_willis> there  documention all over for this.
[06:03] <dr_willis> !find ntfs
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: libntfs-dev, libntfs9, ntfsprogs, libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0 (and 4 others)
[06:03] <cs5> i hear you, this is nuts.
[06:04] <dr_willis> !find ntfs-config
[06:04] <ubotu> Found: ntfs-config
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Ok, do you want to walk through it again?
[06:04] <dr_willis> !Info ntfs-config
[06:04] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:04] <cs5> sure. everytime just helps me learn more.
[06:04] <dr_willis> about all ive done on my new machines. is run that 'ntfs-config' tool
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[06:04] <Nyle> man I just got this pc in for a repair
[06:04] <nnoeonn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28811/
[06:04] <cs5> !info: event not found
[06:05] <dr_willis> It pays to learn the fundamentals. :)   if 'how do i edit a file' is somthing you are going to ask... well..
[06:05] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Oh, and sudo mount
[06:05] <Nyle> insane infections of virii spyware adware
[06:05] <dr_willis> !info is a BOT command. :)
[06:05] <ubotu> Package is does not exist in feisty
[06:05] <Nyle> its crazy
[06:05] <vzduch> # /dev/hda1
[06:05] <vzduch> UUID=60684C8E684C653E /media/winxp    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=de_DE.utf8       0       0
[06:05] <vzduch> works fine for me
[06:05] <dr_willis> In the fstab entry -->   /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:06] <dr_willis> the umask= and gid, are the IMPORTANT options. :)
[06:06] <dr_willis> not sure where that gid came from however.
[06:06] <vzduch> dr_willis: in how far? mine works fine w/o umask
[06:06] <llutz> dr_willis: gid46=plugdev = for removable media
[06:06] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, copy and paste this at the bottom of your xorg.conf file : http://www.pastebin.ca/605977
[06:07] <dr_willis> vzduch,  read the lines and how they differ. ntfs, vs ntfs-3g perhaps
[06:07] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, then save it
[06:07] <cs5> i have to register first jhutchins_it
[06:07] <vzduch> dr_willis: might be
[06:07] <dr_willis> AFTER - ntfs-config i got ------>   /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[06:07] <dr_willis> so yep . seems to be a ntfs vs ntfs-3g diffeance
[06:08] <dr_willis> Interesting
[06:08] <cs5> http://www.pastebin.ca/605981
[06:09] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj, ill restart now, brb
[06:09] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Ok, now the output of mount, and your fstab.
[06:10] <dr_willis> and now after disabling the ntfs-writing with ntfs-config i get yet a 3rd fstab entry! :)
[06:10] <dr_willis> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 1
[06:10] <vzduch> o0
[06:10] <dr_willis> vzduch,  thats... interesting eh...
[06:10] <vzduch> the umask looks like making it read-only
[06:11] <dr_willis> Yep. thats what i checked in  the ntfs-config
[06:11] <vzduch> even though that shouldn't be necessary w/ ntfs, because it can't write anyway
[06:11] <dr_willis> vzduch,  right.. it was  umask=007   befor.
[06:11] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj and dr_willis, You are gods. I now give you permission to bribe about you knowledge :D
[06:11] <dr_willis> I made backups of my fstab. :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  what happened now?
[06:12] <vzduch> dr_willis: which basically means no access for user and group but full access for everybody else
[06:12] <llutz> vzduch: wrong
[06:12] <cs5> http://www.pastebin.ca/605987
[06:12] <llutz> vzduch: umask shows a mask not permissions
[06:12] <dr_willis> I think a slightly better done 'ntfs-config' tool would be handy.
[06:12] <cs5> me too
[06:13] <cs5> lol
[06:13] <nnoeonn> Dr_willies: well it works ^^
[06:13] <nnoeonn> dr_willis*
[06:13] <dr_willis> ntfs-config works.. but id like to be able to select which partitions to allow. :) and slightly clearer on whats going on.
[06:13] <cs5> i am sure it does if you know more, it is just difficult for us noob's
[06:13] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  you were uising fglrx befor.. it should of been working befor.
[06:14] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: You can not access /media/hda1?
[06:14] <cs5> no
[06:14] <nnoeonn> well it kinda works, but it's slow as hell
[06:14] <jhutchins_lt> tail /var/log/messages, see if it says anything interesting.
[06:14] <cs5> could not enter folder /media/hda1
[06:14] <dr_willis> nnoeonn,  whats slow? i really couldent tell the differance with ati vs fglrx on the 'desktop' on my laptop
[06:15] <nnoeonn> when i watch a .avi file its lagging my ass off :S
[06:16] <cs5> messed eh?
[06:16] <dr_willis> high-res porn? :)
[06:16] <nnoeonn> haha naa
[06:16] <dr_willis> could also be a avi/codec/player issue...
[06:16] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Did you set it up with ntfs-config?
[06:16] <nnoeonn> stargate atlantis :S
[06:16] <nnoeonn> xD
[06:17] <dr_willis> I tend to just use the pc's to convert videos for me to watch on my GP2x
[06:17] <jhutchins_lt> (Actually, I have an idea here...)
[06:17] <cs5> no with konsole and kate
[06:17] <cs5> i had help, or i wouldnt have got that much
[06:18] <cs5> ;)
[06:18] <dr_willis> heh.. this is when it pays to learn the fundamentals..    and realize that theres a dozen ways to do somthing in linux.. with a dozen different 'variants'
[06:18] <nnoeonn> :P
[06:18] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: THere's a chance you need to install it, but let's try this: sudo ls /media/hda1/
[06:19] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: (Just tell me what it says, no need for a pastebin)
[06:19] <dr_willis> grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[06:19] <cs5> it gives a list of files inside windows
[06:20] <dr_willis> Might be handy also...
[06:20] <dr_willis> so its Mounted then. :)
[06:20] <cs5> yes
[06:20] <nnoeonn> brb
[06:20] <dr_willis> thats step 1
[06:20] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Mounted, ready, accessible, you just need to add user access.
[06:20] <nnoeonn> gonna take a smoke
[06:20] <cs5> ok
[06:20] <cs5> Lol
[06:20] <Ryaren> Do you know a useful guide to NVTV?
[06:20] <dr_willis> I dont even know what NVTV is... :)
[06:21] <cs5> any help there jhutchins_it
[06:21] <dr_willis> cs5,   You want read and write access to the device for all users?
[06:21] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Your options should be  rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Um, except change noauto to auto
[06:22] <dr_willis> is 'rw' doable with the normal ntfs?
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Change the fstab, unmount & mount the partition, you should be good to go.
[06:23] <dr_willis> bbl ya all.
[06:23] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: I think the ntfs driver is the ntfs driver - does ntfs-config install a different one?
[06:24] <cs5> so should look like this? /dev/hda1        /media/   ntfs rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000     0       0
[06:24] <cs5> but with auto right?
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> cs5: Right.
[06:24] <cs5> ty
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> The Powers That Be have decided that devices should by default be mounted with root only access - which is dumb.
[06:25] <zerozero> I want to run a CLI command every hour, is this a job for cron or the at command?  Or is there a better tool?
[06:25] <cs5> Brilliant, Perfect, ty
[06:25] <cs5> works like a dream
[06:26] <MarcC> zerozero: tried kalarm?
[06:26] <zerozero> MarcC: no Ihave not, I'm in messwith with kcron as we speak
[06:26] <cs5> Thanks a million jhutchins_it
[06:27] <cs5> to everyone that is helpful here really, I appreciate the support
[06:27] <cs5> so can i follow the same steps to mount remote drives on my lan?
[06:29] <MarcC> zerozero: kalarm seems like it might be a little new-user oriented, but it's still powerful, so give it a try if you don't like kcron
[06:30] <zerozero> installing it now
[06:33] <Nyle> oh man
[06:36] <zerozero> kalarm works nicely as well
[06:36] <zerozero> thanks
[06:36] <MarcC> np
[06:36] <hero> is there a ghost program for *nix?
[06:37] <MarcC> hero: check this out - http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[06:37] <hero> thank you.
[06:38] <MarcC> and btw it looks like it's included here:
[06:38] <MarcC> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[06:39] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, so fglrx works ok then? I was away for a bit ... phone call etc
[06:40] <cs5> anyone have an idea on why i cant play music. it adds it to playlist starts to play it and skips to playlist finished
[06:40] <MarcC> is the music on the network, or local?
[06:41] <Ryaren_> Anyone can help me to configure twinview?
[06:41] <cs5> local, it is on a ntfs volume on this machine.
[06:41] <MarcC> which player?
[06:41] <Ryaren> !twinview
[06:41] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:41] <cs5> amarok and kaffine
[06:41] <cs5> kaffeine*
[06:42] <cs5> both do the same thing
[06:42] <MarcC> are they both set to use the same playback engine? it might be the engine
[06:42] <MarcC> try VLC and see if the music plays
[06:42] <Nyle> twinview kinda sucks
[06:42] <cs5> possible, i am not sure how to check.
[06:43] <BluesKaj> whynot copy to your linux music files ...trying to play files off ntfs partition is not gonna work
[06:43] <Nyle> I have two 19" flats, each capable of 1600x1200@75Hz.  When I run dualhead with xinerama, I get 75Hz 3200x1200.  If I use nvidia twinview, I get 51Hz 3200x1200
[06:43] <Nyle> twinview drops the refresh rate like a biznatch
[06:43] <cs5> it will not?
[06:43] <MarcC> sure it'll work
[06:43] <cs5> i will try to transfer them now.
[06:44] <cs5> lol, now you guys have me confused
[06:44] <cs5> lol
[06:44] <MarcC> has always worked fine for me
[06:44] <MarcC> sudo apt-get install vlc, then start vlc and play one of the files
[06:44] <Nyle> kaffeine and amarok use xine
[06:44] <MarcC> see if it plays so we know if it's an engine problem
[06:44] <cs5> trying it now
[06:44] <cs5> couldnt find package
[06:45] <BluesKaj> MarcC, VLC will play files off the windows partition ?
[06:45] <Ryaren> !dualhead
[06:45] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:45] <MarcC> BluesKaj: sure?
[06:45] <MarcC> cs5: open synaptic and do a search for vlc
[06:45] <MarcC> can't remember if it's wxvlc or something like that
[06:46] <RivaeAerya> How can i make konqueror lose all it's history when i close it? i mean, once i close the browser, it must erase all history
[06:46] <MarcC> I've played files off of NTFS all the time in both RO and RW modes
[06:46] <BluesKaj> hmm, din't know that MarcC , i would have left my music files on windoze, but no matter ...ntfs is gone anyway
[06:46] <MarcC> but I guess if you screwed up the partition mounting scheme somehow, that could be problematic :)
[06:47] <MarcC> BluesKaj: it's better that way (gone) ;)
[06:47] <RivaeAerya> anyone know?
[06:47] <genii> cs5: Sorry for being away so long, i was urgently required for some time here at work
[06:47] <BluesKaj> never even tried it , i just assumed it wouldn't work ...of course i use amarok
[06:47] <cs5> np genii
[06:47] <genii> cs5 Did you get assistance?
[06:48] <Hreno> is kubuntu different from ubuntu just in KDE? so if I install KDE I have kubuntu basicly?
[06:48] <cs5> i got help and i am on the partition, just trying to figure out why i cant play music from it
[06:48] <MarcC> somebody is working on making the VLC engine usable for Amarok, IIRC
[06:48] <wonko_> hello all! i seem to have almost finished upgrading from dapper to feisty. only thing is, the wlan0 device is now missing... do i need the ndiswrapper thingy for a rtl8180l pccard?
[06:48] <genii> Hreno The kubuntu-desktop package installs an kubuntu specific set of applications as a suite.
[06:49] <cs5> i have no synaptic i dont think, Kubuntu seems to be all k(Something)
[06:49] <Hreno> okay, thanks
[06:49] <RivaeAerya> How can i make konqueror lose all it's history when i close it? i mean, once i close the browser, it must erase all history
[06:49] <MarcC> cs5: open Amarok prefs and see if you can change the engine from Xine to something else
[06:49] <k3ks> hi everyone, i got a big problem
[06:49] <MarcC> it's in there under "Engine"
[06:49] <BluesKaj> cs5, synaptic is agnome pkg manager , but you can install it on kde np
[06:49] <genii> Hreno: If you just install KDE alone, then you will need to install all the specific applications which comes automatically from installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:50] <k3ks> my partition where /home lays is about 170GB big
[06:50] <k3ks> but konquere shows only 59GB
[06:50] <cs5> xine is my only engine in the list
[06:50] <MarcC> cs5: sudo apt-get install wxvlc
[06:50] <MarcC> try that
[06:50] <k3ks> also the "System Settings" of kde
[06:50] <cs5> k
[06:50] <k3ks> but gparted shows it correctly
[06:50] <cs5> no package
[06:50] <MarcC> ?!
[06:51] <cs5> lol
[06:51] <k3ks> and says that about 160Gb is in use
[06:51] <MarcC> how about xmms?
[06:51] <MarcC> try xmms
[06:51] <MarcC> sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:51] <BluesKaj> cs5 have you installed kubuntu-desktop or just kde?
[06:51] <cs5> its installing xmms
[06:51] <wonko_> anyone know how i can get my wlan0 device back after dist-upgrade?
[06:51] <cs5> just the default
[06:51] <MarcC> k, when xmms is installed, open it up and play one of those files from NTFS-land
[06:52] <cs5> kde
[06:52] <BluesKaj> !ndsiwrapper
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <BluesKaj> oops
[06:52] <MarcC> oh oh cs5; you should install kubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <cs5> different disks?
[06:52] <MarcC> ah ah ah
[06:52] <cs5> or can i do it from my present instal?
[06:52] <MarcC> you're using the CD repositories?
[06:52] <cs5> dvd
[06:52] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[06:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:52] <MarcC> nowwwww it makes sense
[06:52] <wonko_> BluesKaj: so ndiswrapper is what i should look into?
[06:52] <cs5> dvd live with instal options
[06:53] <cs5> installed with ext3 and swap[
[06:53] <cs5> dual with xp
[06:53] <Arthea> Hi ...again i still have troubles accessing my ntfs partitions: they are mounted and the fstab has this "media/lab1 (auto in blue) auto,users,rw,auto,user,sync,atime,dev,noexec,suid 1,1
[06:53] <vzduch> btw, as to XMMS or rather its successors: I have some self-built Audacious binaries (Audacious 1.3.2, Audacious-Plugins 1.3.5).. I could repackage them according to *buntu standards and someone could host them if someone would be able and willing to assist me w/ that :)
[06:53] <MarcC> cs5 - run adept manager and change the repos to network repos using the Adept menu
[06:53] <Arthea> so why i still don't have permission to access them ?? -_-
[06:53] <MarcC> (I think that's right)
[06:53] <BluesKaj> wonko_, yes some pkges change their defaults after upgrades
[06:53] <Hreno> when does next version of Kubuntu comes out?
[06:53] <cs5> just trying the xmms
[06:53] <cs5> 1 moment plz
[06:54] <k3ks> has anyone a clue about my problem?
[06:54] <k3ks> or knows what to search in google on this problam?
[06:54] <Ryaren> Somebody knows the nvtv????
[06:54] <hero> MarcC: so partimage isn't really like ghost in the traditional sense. sounds like you'd be better off using dd maybe
[06:55] <cs5> well it is playing as i can see the progress and sound output, but I cant hear it so i am going fiddling with settings again
[06:55] <MarcC> hero: ok, I haven't used it
[06:55] <hero> heh
[06:55] <hero> alright :D
[06:55] <MarcC> cs5: sound card make/model?
[06:55] <hero> maybe i'll just use ghost then, i guess
[06:55] <cs5> creative live 5.1
[06:55] <wonko_> k3ks: are you accessing home over the network or local mount?
[06:55] <k3ks> local
[06:55] <nnoeonn> What does this mean?: modinfo: could not open fglrx: No such device
[06:55] <cs5> maybe different channel trying other plugs in card
[06:55] <MarcC> cs5: can you get other sounds to play, like in games/browser pages?
[06:55] <cs5> i had them working yes
[06:56] <BluesKaj> k3ks,I think what you're seeing in konqueror is how much of the partition is in use , not what is free
[06:56] <cs5> i am not sure now I havent heard a sound all day
[06:56] <MarcC> cs5: my audigy requires a digital I/O switch be turned off in the mixer, otherwise it won't play a thing - and that switch gets enabled by default sometimes
[06:56] <cs5> ah
[06:56] <MarcC> so check the mixer
[06:56] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj: What does this mean "modinfo: could not open fglrx: No such device"?
[06:56] <cs5> it is on my digital out
[06:56] <cs5> xmms works nice
[06:56] <MarcC> you have sound now?
[06:56] <nnoeonn> i'm getting ite when i try to start restricted-manager
[06:56] <cs5> yes
[06:56] <Ryaren> Somebody knows the nvtv????
[06:57] <cs5> nice sound too, ty
[06:57] <k3ks> BluesKaj: but he says that 88% are in use
[06:57] <christian_> Hola
[06:57] <MarcC> cs5: might as well try amarok or kaffeine now to see if they work
[06:57] <cs5> ok
[06:57] <k3ks> BluesKaj: and i can't copy files because theres no space
[06:57] <cs5> Nope they skip the playlist still
[06:58] <cs5> wierd, ill try to move some and see if they will play them
[06:58] <wonko_> k3ks: what does df say?
[06:58] <BluesKaj> cs5 , make sure your alsa and kmix have no mutes
[06:58] <k3ks> df?
[06:58] <MarcC> cs5: interesting :D
[06:58] <k3ks> ah
[06:58] <k3ks> k
[06:58] <k3ks> mom
[06:58] <wonko_> open konsole and type 'df -h'
[06:58] <wonko_> heh :)
[06:59] <cs5> it still wont play them even when i copy to the ext3 partition
[06:59] <k3ks> 90% in use
[06:59] <k3ks> 52GB out of 60GB
[06:59] <wonko_> that is quite odd, so konqueror and df say different things
[07:00] <cs5> very interesting, what does xmms do different than amarok and keffeine?
[07:00] <wonko_> and your partition is certainly 100 something bin in the partition manager
[07:00] <MarcC> cs5: but XMMS works...can you check XMMS prefs (right click) and see what playback engine it's using?
[07:00] <nnoeonn> k3ks what about swap? O.o
[07:00] <k3ks> gparted says its 173.83 GB big
[07:01] <wonko_> can you please also check that with cfdisk?
[07:01] <k3ks> and 165.84 Gb are in use
[07:01] <k3ks> what should be with swap?
[07:01] <cs5> alsa 1.2.10 output plug-in
[07:01] <cs5> libalsa.so
[07:01] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, did you run 'fgl_glxgears' in the console ?
[07:01] <nnoeonn> think so, one moment
[07:01] <k3ks> cfdisk and what?
[07:01] <MarcC> cs5: can you go into Amarok prefs now, then to "Engine" and see which output plugin is selected? If "Autodetect," set to ALSA
[07:02] <nnoeonn> works just fine
[07:02] <cs5> it is auto, i will change
[07:02] <wonko_> in konsole type cfdisk /dev/hda
[07:02] <wonko_> just to confirm the partition size
[07:02] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, are you getting a 6sided rotating  cube wirh 3gears running on each face ?
[07:02] <k3ks> Cannot open disk drive
[07:03] <MarcC> cs5: you might also need to change your repositories to the network and upgrade your system libraries
[07:03] <cs5> nope still skips it all
[07:03] <k3ks> do i have to umount it?
[07:03] <wonko_> no
[07:03] <nnoeonn> blueskaj: yupp
[07:03] <Ryaren> PLSSSSSSSS somebody help me to configure TV-out I'm reallly stuck :(:(:(:(
[07:03] <nnoeonn> and i get 250 fps...
[07:03] <wonko_> as root?
[07:03] <MarcC> cs5: can you play any of the radio stations within Amarok?
[07:03] <cs5> marcc . i will try
[07:03] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, what were you trying to do when you received the rror message ?
[07:03] <vzduch> cs5: if it's a codec issue, amaroK should tell you w/ a pop-up
[07:03] <k3ks> size186,64 GB
[07:03] <BluesKaj> error
[07:03] <nnoeonn> open restricted manager
[07:04] <wonko_> lol
[07:04] <nnoeonn> but i dont get it.. if that test works fine, why doesn't everything else work? :S:S
[07:04] <ObelixBur> can someone send me video codecs for MPG, AVI, etc?
[07:04] <k3ks> that's anyoing, i cannot use over 50% of my hard drive
[07:04] <BluesKaj> restricted manager , why /
[07:04] <ObelixBur> I have Kubuntu Fiesty Fawn
[07:04] <vzduch> !codecs | ObelixBur
[07:04] <ubotu> ObelixBur: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <nnoeonn> I dunno xD
[07:05] <nnoeonn> somethings wrong :S
[07:05] <wonko_> so both qtparted and konqueror agree that you have 8 gig left?
[07:05] <ObelixBur> Thx, as you may notice, I'm a newbie to Kubuntu
[07:05] <BluesKaj> ok , do you have google earth installed , nnoeonn
[07:05] <ObelixBur> I had OpenSuse
[07:05] <k3ks> yes
[07:05] <wonko_> k3ks: btw, what filesystem?
[07:05] <cs5> connects to http server 0% then nothing
[07:05] <k3ks> ext3
[07:05] <wonko_> maybe you should fsck
[07:05] <k3ks> may that be dangerouse? ^^
[07:06] <cs5> marcc . how do i change to the repositories
[07:06] <wonko_> hehe
[07:06] <wonko_> not really
[07:06] <wonko_> unless you set the right options ;)
[07:06] <MarcC> cs5: do you have Adept Manager open?
[07:06] <k3ks> arg, i'm not yet that familiar with linux
[07:06] <vzduch> cs5: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please :9
[07:07] <cs5> no i dont
[07:07] <wonko_> oh, it says the filesystem should be unmounted first
[07:07] <vzduch> !medibuntu
[07:07] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:07] <MarcC> cs5: open adept_manager and go to the Adept menu, then Manage Repositories
[07:07] <wonko_> do you have a bootable linux cd?
[07:07] <wonko_> e.g. knoppix or kubuntu lifecd?\
[07:07] <k3ks> one? hundred!
[07:07] <k3ks> *g*
[07:07] <vzduch> wonko_: life CD? o0
[07:07] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, do ' fglrxinfo ' in the terminal and paste the output in pastebin
[07:07] <wonko_> ^^
[07:07] <k3ks> lol
[07:07] <cs5> ah, sudo....lol, i always forget
[07:08] <MarcC> cs5: wait, you said you didn't install kubuntu-desktop? If not, better install it now
[07:08] <wonko_> vzduch: *live :)
[07:08] <wonko_> but it can save the former :)
[07:08] <vzduch> hrhr
[07:08] <k3ks> so i umount it, and that fsck it with witch options?
[07:08] <wonko_> none i think
[07:08] <k3ks> k
[07:08] <vzduch> k3ks: -C should be fine (outputs a nice progress bar)
[07:09] <nnoeonn> what's the adress to the spamdump? :S
[07:09] <cs5> so how do i switch, I can do that easily from here?
[07:09] <wonko_> if it returns 0 then at least that is ok
[07:09] <k3ks> k^^
[07:09] <cs5> to desktop
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> !pastebin
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:09] <nnoeonn> thnx
[07:09] <k3ks> k, so i'm gonna try this
[07:09] <k3ks> thx
[07:09] <MarcC> cs5: did you have a question?
[07:09] <nnoeonn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28826/ blueskaj
[07:09] <wonko_> do you have a separate home partition or all in one?
[07:09] <k3ks> seperate
[07:09] <ObelixBur> how do I install Real Player?  It's a *.bin file
[07:09] <wonko_> so you don't need to reboot
[07:10] <k3ks> should be enought to log out and than as root open a console
[07:10] <k3ks> right?
[07:10] <jhutchins_lt> ObelixBur: It would be better to install the kubuntu package.
[07:10] <cs5> yes marcc, how can i find out what version of kubuntu i am using, I am just trying to figure out if i am on desktop already or not
[07:10] <wonko_> jup
[07:10] <MarcC> cs5: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:11] <k3ks> thx
[07:11] <MarcC> cs5: it will tell you if it's installed or now
[07:11] <MarcC> *not
[07:11] <k3ks> brb
[07:11] <cs5> ok
[07:11] <wonko_> ok
[07:11] <vzduch> ObelixBur: enable medibuntu as a repository & install via Synaptic/Adept/apt-get/aptitude (whichever you prefer)
[07:11] <ObelixBur> I'm using (I know that it is a sacrilege) the Windows XP at a cybercafe because I don't have an Internet connection at the house
[07:11] <cs5> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[07:11] <cs5> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[07:11] <cs5> already there
[07:11] <cs5> onto the repositories
[07:11] <ObelixBur> I know that it doesn't happen that often, but I'm in Belgium
[07:11] <MarcC> cs5: ok...then go to KMenu -> Run Command -> type "adept_manager"
[07:12] <MarcC> and click OK
[07:12] <cs5> got it
[07:12] <vzduch> ObelixBur: honestly, you don't want a Debian-based distro if you don't have Internet access for the machine you put it on
[07:12] <ObelixBur> I know
[07:12] <jhutchins_lt> ObelixBur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[07:12] <MarcC> ok cs5, now to go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[07:12] <cs5> wow, there is lots i can install
[07:12] <ObelixBur> I wanted to get Internet, but then my ex-wife ...
[07:13] <ObelixBur> any further questions?
[07:13] <nixternal> booyah!
[07:13] <MarcC> cs5: then check the "downloadable from the internet" items and uncheck the "installable from CDROM/DVD" items
[07:13] <wonko_> ?
[07:13] <wonko_> nixternal: what did he do?
[07:13] <ObelixBur> I wish I had the money to have Internet
[07:13] <MarcC> cs5: after that's done, click "close" and then "fetch updates" on the main screen
[07:13] <cs5> its going
[07:13] <nixternal> wonko_: it isn't waht he did, it is what he was about to do...he has been spamming all of the channels
[07:14] <vzduch> ObelixBur: what's the cheapest line you can get in .be?
[07:14] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28826/
[07:14] <MarcC> cs5: it'll probably have a lot of changes for you to apply
[07:14] <ObelixBur> 39 euros
[07:14] <wonko_> nixternal: ok...
[07:14] <cs5> 958 installed 4 upgradable 4462 available
[07:14] <vzduch> o0
[07:14] <MarcC> cs5: ok, that's not bad
[07:14] <ObelixBur> my ex-wife and her mother refuse to die
[07:15] <ObelixBur> and I just got socked with a 3000 euro IRS kick in the ... I'll save the explanations
[07:15] <cs5> away it goes
[07:15] <MarcC> cs5: try installing amarok-engines if amarok still doesn't work (search for "amarok" in the search bar)
[07:15] <ObelixBur> but you get the idea?
[07:15] <ObelixBur> I had DSL
[07:15] <vzduch> o0
[07:15] <MarcC> cs5: amarok-engines will put other options in the "Engines" area of Amarok prefs
[07:15] <marko_> is there any program like movie maker?
[07:15] <ObelixBur> and will - hopefully - soon get it again
[07:15] <jhutchins_lt> ObelixBur: Life happens.
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> ObelixBur: You could probably run linux in the cafe, I have.
[07:16] <ObelixBur> all I need - want - to do is to watch films
[07:16] <ObelixBur> they only have Windows
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> ObelixBur: Well, no real need to run linux then.
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> ObelixBur: Was there something you needed help with?
[07:16] <ObelixBur> of course, there is another place who could help
[07:16] <MarcC> marko: something like Kino should work
[07:16] <ObelixBur> anyway, thanks
[07:16] <ObelixBur> life happens ... and then it hits the fan
[07:17] <ObelixBur> fortunately, I have a new wife ... and she doesn't spend like the other did
[07:17] <ObelixBur> I may go back to OpenSuse
[07:17] <ObelixBur> bye*
[07:18] <hero> hehe, the second image introducing kde4 is a bug window.
[07:19] <nnoeonn> you there blueskaj?
[07:20] <cs5> ok marcc
[07:23] <nnoeonn> * looks at genii ... ^^
[07:23] <whippy> hello
[07:23] <nnoeonn> O.o
[07:23] <whippy> kennst sich jemand von euch mit linux gut aus?
[07:23] <whippy> bin auf der Suche nach einer Server Distribution...
[07:24] <genii> nnoeonn: I usually just drink coffee but have rotut right now :)
[07:24] <whippy> welche kann empfohlen werden?
[07:24] <genii> rotut=rotgut
[07:24] <vzduch> !de | whippy
[07:24] <ubotu> whippy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:24] <whippy> oke,
[07:24] <wonko_> ^^
[07:24] <benutzer> ok
[07:24] <whippy> does someone know a real fine server distribution for Linux?
[07:24] <whippy> i'm searching for one...
[07:24] <whippy> debian sarge? perhaps?
[07:25] <wonko_> whippy: was magst denn damit machen?
[07:25] <genii> whippy Yes, that would be my recommendation. Or RHES
[07:25] <whippy> @wonko, einfach nur eine spielerei...
[07:25] <whippy> server aufsetzen halt...
[07:25] <jhutchins_lt> THere's Ubuntu LTS
[07:25] <vzduch> why Sarge? Etch should be stable enough these days
[07:25] <wonko_> whippy: dann _unbedingt_ gentoo :)
[07:25] <whippy> Etch?
[07:25] <vzduch> jhutchins_lt: yes ;)
[07:25] <whippy> some one is tetlling i should use -> gentoo?
[07:25] <vzduch> whippy: 4.0
[07:26] <vit_> hola
[07:26] <vit_> a todos
[07:26] <vzduch> Gentoo for a server? o noes..
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: NO!!!
[07:26] <whippy> jhutchins Ubuntu LTS?
[07:26] <genii> vzduch: I'm still getting aggravating issues on 64bit Etch
[07:26] <wonko_> hehehehe
[07:26] <whippy> genni? debian etch?
[07:26] <whippy> ;)
[07:26] <genii> 32 should be OK tho
[07:26] <wonko_> he said it's just a fun project :)
[07:26] <vit_> necesito q me digan como instalar tibia en mi pc
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: You have to constantly update and upgrade gentoo, very bad for a server.
[07:26] <genii> whippy Yes
[07:26] <whippy> yeah, its only a fun project...
[07:26] <genii> whippy For just a learning server, use Ubuntu 6.06
[07:27] <whippy> @jjutchins, but you should also update other server distris, or?
[07:27] <wonko_> i think you'll learn most if you use gentoo for it, but whatever...
[07:27] <whippy> not constantly,
[07:27] <whippy> but up 2 date ;)
[07:27] <vit_> what this the best linux or windows??
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> THere are others you can just let run, install the security updates regularly.  Not gentoo.
[07:27] <vzduch> genii: 64bit is still the problem.. it just seems as if the transition from 32bit to 64bit is going a lot slower than from 16bit to 32bit some 15 years ago
[07:27] <genii> vit_ Need you ask i here? Really...
[07:27] <whippy> i never tried ubuntu LTS?
[07:27] <whippy> is the server version...
[07:27] <whippy> ?
[07:27] <vit_> vista
[07:28] <nnoeonn> You there blueskaj?
[07:28] <wonko_> vit_: what is tibia?
[07:28] <nnoeonn> tibia is a game
[07:28] <genii> whippy ubuntu LTS = ubuntu server 6.06 Long Term Support
[07:28] <whippy> ah,
[07:28] <whippy> i see
[07:28] <nnoeonn> vit_: you play tibia? O.o
[07:28] <whippy> yeah i heard about it
[07:28] <whippy> the long term support...
[07:28] <genii> whippy You download the alternate install CD for 6.06
[07:28] <whippy> i also thought about
[07:29] <whippy> FC-6
[07:29] <genii> whippy And install the LAMP server
[07:29] <whippy> should be also fine...
[07:29] <whippy> yeah, i know lamp ;) real fine stuff
[07:29] <whippy> xampp
[07:29] <kalorin> lamp?
[07:29] <genii> kalorin: Linux Apache Mysql PHP
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: FC has too short a support cycle, I'd recommend against it.  They also don't have smooth dist-upgrades.
[07:29] <wonko_> is tibia a browser game?
[07:29] <Sanne> whippy: for a server a stable distro is better, meaning that during lifetime there won't be new versions, but the stable versions get bugfixes. In a distro which is not version stable you only get bugfixes when you upgrade the software to newer versions. that's considered not optimal for servers.
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: k/ubuntu and Mandriva can do version upgrades.
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> (Well, so can gentoo, but...)
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: I wouldn't do Mandriva for a server though.
[07:30] <genii> work calls, AFK, indeterminate time
[07:30] <hero> when is kde4 scheduled to be released?
[07:30] <kalorin> stupid work
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: I'm probably going to convert my gentoo boxes this summer some time
[07:30] <hero> not alpha or beta.
[07:31] <jhutchins_lt> hero: http://kde.org or #kde
[07:31] <whippy> @jhutchins----
[07:31] <whippy> ubuntu LTS, u mean?
[07:31] <kalorin> all i want is photoshop
[07:31] <whippy> what server distris are used in the INTERNET for Services?
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> kalorin: That's like $750+ US
[07:32] <whippy> i often asked myself....
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: Debian, RHEL, Centos.
[07:32] <kalorin> jhutchins_lt: to run natively on linux i mean
[07:32] <whippy> okay,
[07:32] <whippy> why shouldn't i try them?
[07:32] <whippy> RHEL ;)
[07:32] <whippy> i'm interested in Computer Science....
[07:32] <whippy> soooo ;)
[07:33] <kalorin> RHEL and CENTOS are the same
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> kalorin: Not really.
[07:33] <kalorin> no really
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> centos is usually behind RHEL, often lacks hardware support.
[07:33] <whippy> where can i get RHEL?
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: redhat.com
[07:33] <whippy> search'd for it...
[07:33] <whippy> can u post a link
[07:34] <whippy> i got it...
[07:34] <whippy> thanks
[07:34] <Ryaren> PLSSSSSSSS somebody help me to configure TV-out I'm reallly stuck :(:(:(:(
[07:34] <kalorin> tv-out?
[07:34] <Ryaren> yupp
[07:34] <whippy> RHEL dvd would be fine,
[07:34] <Ryaren> nvtv for example
[07:34] <whippy> there are only cd-isos
[07:34] <kalorin> jhutchins_lt: my understanding with centos is that they're just pulling the source rpm's and compiling them and giving them out for free
[07:35] <kalorin> since redhat can't charge for the programs themselves, they have to charge for support and the service of compiling them
[07:35] <jhutchins_lt> kalorin: Thing is not all of RHEL is OS, and centos tends to run behind them anyway.
[07:35] <kalorin> we're going to centos here at work on most of our stuff
[07:35] <cs5> marcc is there a list of updates and packages you would suggest for someone who wants to maximize their use of the system
[07:35] <whippy> @jhut...
[07:35] <jhutchins_lt> kalorin: Are you running centos?
[07:35] <whippy> yesterday i tried to install kubuntu
[07:35] <kalorin> I'm not at this point
[07:36] <whippy> on a amd2800+ machine
[07:36] <kalorin> they're going to start doing it on our servers I mean
[07:36] <whippy> with a radeon 9250 grahpic card.
[07:36] <whippy> ddr 128mb
[07:36] <kalorin> I've got kubuntu, debian, redhat EL, centos
[07:36] <dec_> can anyone help - I just installed the app dvdstyler and i cannot access it it is not on the menus
[07:36] <whippy> but when i configured the 16:9 screen...
[07:36] <kalorin> whippy, ati cards aren't much fun to install ubuntu with
[07:36] <whippy> kubuntu didn't wanted to boot again,
[07:36] <whippy> i modiefied the xorf.conf
[07:36] <kalorin> you have to stop the install and add some packages and then do it again on first boot
[07:37] <whippy> ppphhhuuu
[07:37] <kalorin> I've got an x700 at home
[07:37] <whippy> doesn't sounds funny
[07:37] <vzduch> kalorin: ATI cards aren't much fun w/ any Linux distro I know..
[07:37] <kalorin> it's not that bad once you know what you have to do
[07:37] <whippy> yeah but the machine boots
[07:37] <MarcC> cs5: there are a *lot* of really good packages out there...I guess it just depends on what you want - gaming, productivity, multimedia, etc.
[07:37] <whippy> in a relosotion of 1024x768
[07:37] <whippy> but not on 1400x900
[07:38] <jhutchins_lt> As long as you get console, who cares?
[07:38] <vzduch> jhutchins_lt: *gg*
[07:38] <cs5> all of the above marcc, although ithought gaming wasnt really an option on linux, or I wouldnt even use windows
[07:38] <whippy> what graphic cards are opensource supported?
[07:38] <whippy> and which one not...
[07:38] <whippy> nvidia ? opensource?
[07:39] <MarcC> cs5: it depends on what you mean by gaming - if you mean "latest FPS on store shelves," then yeah, Windows or a game console are good. But I do a lot of emulation, so it's not a big deal to me.
[07:39] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: Pretty much everything has some level of support.
[07:39] <jhutchins_lt> whippy: If you want to play windows games, run windows.
[07:40] <whippy> @jhut i'm not playing
[07:40] <MarcC> cs5: Automatix (or whatever the politically correct alternative is) contains a lot of packages that people like to have setup on their systems.
[07:40] <jhutchins_lt> !automatix
[07:40] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:40] <jhutchins_lt> Better to use a decent howto and your own brain.
[07:40] <MarcC> !WorksForMe
[07:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:40] <whippy> @jhut is it possible to record a dvb-s signal on kubuntu?
[07:40] <MarcC> lol
[07:41] <cs5> ok. you use wine (I know its not an emulator) and what else to use windows software(Ie games)
[07:41] <MarcC> too bad there's no alternative
[07:41] <whippy> is there already software... for such stuff
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> !mediabuntu
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <MarcC> cs5: I don't really play windows games...go to happypenguin.org and look around - if you see something you like, check in adept_manager
[07:41] <cs5> ty
[07:41] <dec_> can anyone help - I just installed the app dvdstyler and i cannot access it it is not on the menus
[07:42] <jhutchins_lt> dec_: dpkg -L dvdstyler will show you what you installed.
[07:43] <dec_> after running that what am i looking for installed
[07:44] <cs5> well after updateing amarok I can buffer online streams but still wont play using my settings, and i installed the amarok-arts engine but it doesnt show in amaroks settings
[07:44] <whippy> cool mediabuntu seems really nice ;)
[07:44] <cs5> xmms still works great though ty
[07:44] <binks> i have myth and kaffeine installed so i think myth is locking my dvb ow can i stop it so kaffeine can use the adapter
[07:44] <whippy> in a few minutes i learned sooo much ;) cool thanks ;)
[07:44] <whippy> @cs5 try audicious
[07:44] <whippy> audicious is also cool
[07:45] <MarcC> cs5: that's weird, I've never had such a problem with Kaffeine or Amarok :( but online streams will play in XMMS too, FWIW. Might want to install StreamTuner if you like online radio.
[07:45] <oslo_LIVECD> hi my pc stuck at fsck on the home partition..right now i'm on a liveCD what can i do ???
[07:45] <whippy> audacious
[07:45] <whippy> as player
[07:45] <vzduch> whippy: only Audacious is not current in *buntu.. better build yourself (I did)
[07:45] <cs5> ah i have about 14000 songs so i think ill survive
[07:45] <cs5> lol ;)
[07:45] <whippy> i installt it throuch apt-get install
[07:45] <MarcC> cs5: cool :)
[07:45] <whippy> it worked
[07:45] <whippy> ?
[07:45] <K-Ryan> 14 thousand songs? o.O
[07:45] <whippy> why to build self?
[07:46] <vzduch> whippy: I know it works.. but who wants 1.2.5 if you can have 1.3.2? ;)
[07:46] <whippy> okay, i see
[07:46] <whippy> you man load tar.gz
[07:46] <whippy> ./configure
[07:46] <whippy> make
[07:46] <whippy> make install
[07:46] <whippy> ?
[07:46] <vzduch> indeed
[07:46] <cs5> i have too much i cant even listen to them all
[07:46] <cs5> should have stopped at 10000
[07:47] <whippy> guys, i think i gonna try, FC-6 as a new client, for a new machine
[07:47] <K-Ryan> The RIAA would love to get their hands on you
[07:47] <cs5> lol
[07:47] <whippy> ubuntu is also cool i gonna let it on an antoher machine
[07:47] <vzduch> whippy: why take FC6 if there's F7?
[07:47] <whippy> it didnt find a right .iso
[07:48] <whippy> they didnt work...
[07:48] <whippy> seems to be corrupt
[07:48] <vzduch> no problem here.. I have the DVD, even had it installed
[07:48] <BluesKaj> whippy, FC-6 will give you grief, the repository system sucks
[07:48] <whippy> cant you install in FC-6 with
[07:48] <vzduch> BluesKaj: if you know what to pick it's not that problematic
[07:48] <whippy> apt-get install ?
[07:48] <vzduch> !botsnack
[07:48] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:49] <whippy> ahhh
[07:49] <whippy> jeah y're right
[07:49] <whippy> yum is the staller
[07:49] <gnomefreak> whippy: you can use apt-get as well
[07:49] <whippy> the only thing is,
[07:49] <gnomefreak> whippy: still should be talked about in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <vzduch> of course you can.. but it's not officially supported
[07:49] <whippy> that it uses gnome...
[07:49] <whippy> i preefer kde
[07:49] <whippy> much more...
[07:49] <vzduch> whippy: you can install KDE
[07:50] <K-Ryan> !hi
[07:50] <whippy> can you tell me how?
[07:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Ahaha
[07:50] <whippy> yum install kde ?
[07:50] <vzduch> I guess so
[07:50] <vzduch> or directly at install time
[07:50] <whippy> oke
[07:50] <fql> hey, I'm running the kde4-aplha2 livecd in qemu (on kubuntu feisty), but it is reallly slow, do you know although my computer doesn't support kvm I can still use kqemu acceleration? and do you know how?
[07:50] <whippy> gonna try next time
[07:50] <vzduch> whippy: for Fedora questions check at ##fedora
[07:51] <whippy> can me someone tell what programming language to learn?
[07:51] <BluesKaj> whippy , i'm a relitive Linux noob , but in the last 3 yrs i've tried all the biggie Distros , suse. mandriva, FC , ...debian & kubuntu are the most logical and stable IMO
[07:51] <whippy> i programmed c#
[07:51] <runpain2>  i screwed up my laptop  i had windowsxp loaded on the internal hard drive i loaded kbuntu on an usb harddrive and when i rebooted laptop after install it reads grub loading stage 1.5 grub loading,please wait error21 is stuck there can any one help me here?Please
[07:51] <whippy> little bit java
[07:51] <K-Ryan> whippy: It depends on what you want to do
[07:51] <vzduch> whippy: C++ is never wrong
[07:51] <dario> !find unaligned.h
[07:51] <ubotu> File unaligned.h found in asterisk-dev, libaal-dev, libuclibc-dev, linux-headers-2.6.20-15, xen-doc-2.6.16 (and 2 others)
[07:51] <whippy> but i want to develop for a GUI interface
[07:51] <whippy> and searching for something running on linux and windows...
[07:51] <cs5> marcc ty for the happypenguin, nice site.
[07:51] <K-Ryan> runpain2: You needed to put a /boot partition on the hard drive, not the usb hard drive
[07:51] <whippy> so java would be it?
[07:51] <runpain2> i want xp on lap top and kubuntu on the usb harddrive
[07:51] <Ryaren> How can i get my video card's BusID?????
[07:52] <fql> whippy: c++ with qt4?
[07:52] <runpain2> how
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Ryaren: lspci
[07:52] <whippy> thought about widgets and so on....
[07:52] <Ryaren> thank you
[07:52] <runpain2> k r
[07:52] <whippy> and i want to have a IDE with drag and drop to
[07:52] <K-Ryan> runpain2: You can do that I think, but you need to put /boot on your laptop.
[07:52] <CarinArr> whippy: qt is very nice
[07:52] <whippy> qt4?
[07:52] <fql> whippy: for the gui there is designer with qt4
[07:52] <whippy> are these widgets?
[07:52] <marko_> is there any program like movie maker ?
[07:52] <runpain2> how please
[07:53] <fql> whippy: yes qt4 is where kde4 is made with
[07:53] <CarinArr> whippy: http://trolltech.com/products/qt/
[07:53] <whippy> java seems to be the stream?
[07:53] <whippy> the mainstream?
[07:53] <K-Ryan> !grub
[07:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:53] <runpain2> should i reboot
[07:53] <runpain2> with live cd
[07:53] <whippy> thought about eclipse or netbeans
[07:53] <K-Ryan> What are you on now?
[07:53] <wonko__> whippy: what do you want to do with it?
[07:53] <Ryaren> gnomefreak: always PCI?? in xorgconf
[07:53] <whippy> graphical software...
[07:53] <runpain2> still at laptop last error
[07:54] <fql> whippy: jep java is very popular, but c++ also still is, I think since this is a kubuntu (kde) channel most people here will prefer c++ (since kde is written in it)
[07:54] <whippy> runinng on kde, gnome, perhaps xface, and win
[07:54] <CarinArr> whippy: when you say graphical software are you talking just something with a gui or something to do with actual graphics
[07:54] <gnomefreak> Ryaren: yes
[07:54] <Ryaren> okay
[07:54] <runpain2> k
[07:54] <K-Ryan> Oh you're here from a different computer.
[07:54] <whippy> only GUI,
[07:54] <K-Ryan> runpain2: You'll need to reboot with the live cd, yes
[07:54] <runpain2> k
[07:54] <gnomefreak> Ryaren: apg or pci or pci express and so on in Xorg they are known as pci
[07:54] <whippy> but perhaps also OpenGL when i would have time to learn it...
[07:54] <runpain2> at it now
[07:54] <whippy> for example,
[07:54] <Ryaren> okay got ya
[07:54] <K-Ryan> !grub | runpain2
[07:54] <ubotu> runpain2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:54] <fql> whippy: for opengl c is the way to go
[07:55] <K-Ryan> Try the first link
[07:55] <whippy> in what language are the GUI programms in ubuntu programmed?
[07:55] <runpain2> k
[07:55] <wonko__> whippy: ok, for just the gui i would use python with qt
[07:55] <gnomefreak> whippy: please take teh offtopic topics to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:55] <hero> how useful is kat?
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> hero: cat?
[07:55] <hero> !kat
[07:55] <gnomefreak> hero: kat or kate?
[07:55] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[07:55] <gnomefreak> ah
[07:55] <vzduch> who's running VMware Server?
[07:55] <hero> i wonder how often it indexes.
[07:55] <fql> who knows what kqemu is?
[07:56] <fql> google doesn't know..
[07:56] <whippy> kqemu is an emulator,
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> fql: its a virtualization tool like VMware, Xen etc
[07:56] <gnomefreak> fql: kde version of qmenu
[07:56] <whippy> the kde verion of it
[07:56] <vzduch> gnomefreak: no, it isn't
[07:56] <gnomefreak> fql: google qmenu
[07:56] <gnomefreak> vzduch: it is as qmenu is another vm type app
[07:56] <whippy> kqemo is an emulator for booting /emulating a pc,
[07:56] <fql> yep, but I know what qemu is, but kqemu is supposed to be an accelerator? but I don't know if it depends on kvm and how to enable it
[07:56] <whippy> the kde version
[07:57] <whippy> one more time ;)
[07:57] <runpain2> lost windows after ubuntu install to usb
[07:57] <vzduch> gnomefreak, whippy: I remember guessing that in a Usenet discussion, and the ppl told me it has got nothing to do w/ KDE
[07:57] <K-Ryan> runpain2: Try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-f5b2b33b369cf4e319ad0f1df557c42290ba2d33
[07:58] <whippy> @vzduch... read a little bit on sourceforge
[07:58] <whippy> http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/
[07:58] <runpain2> k kr
[07:58] <cs5> is there more repositories than is default in adept?
[07:58] <fql> I did run sudo aptitude install kqemu-common, but still qemu tells me: Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[07:58] <whippy> @vzduch you believe?
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: on feisty and later, not stable ones
[07:59] <fql> whippy: I think kqemu is amibu
[07:59] <fql> s/amibu/ambigu
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> for dapper, edgy etc, yes. what release are you on
[07:59] <cs5> ok
[07:59] <cs5> um, hmmmm feisty i elieve
[07:59] <cs5> lol
[07:59] <cs5> only 3 weeks old
[07:59] <K-Ryan> runpain2: I never had to do this so I'm not sure if it's going to add in just Linux, or Linux and Windows
[07:59] <rustalot> I can't get the package for the qt-designer documentation w/ apt-get, can someone point me to a .deb file?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> vzduch: your right sorry i could have swore it depended on libqt3
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: lsb_release -a will tell you for sure
[08:00] <cs5> all my repositories say dapper though....sooooo
[08:00] <K-Ryan> cs5: Why'd you wait so long to upgrade? I upgraded as soon as I found out there was a new release out =)
[08:00] <whippy> @fql---?
[08:00] <whippy> what is kqemu?
[08:00] <cs5> yep dapper
[08:00] <K-Ryan> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> !reps > cs5
[08:00] <runpain2> ill try
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[08:00] <fql> whippy: I don't know exactly, but it is supposed to speed up qemu
[08:00] <runpain2> thks kr
[08:00] <K-Ryan> change dapper to feisty
[08:01] <whippy> http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !repos > cs5
[08:01] <K-Ryan> You're welcome runpain2
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: check the link the bot is telling you
[08:01] <gnomefreak> K-Ryan: no
[08:01] <whippy> then please take a look at: http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/
[08:01] <K-Ryan> gnomefreak: ?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> cs5: change dapper to edgy
[08:01] <whippy> so it seems to be a kde version of qemu?
[08:01] <K-Ryan> Oh, whoops =)
[08:01] <gnomefreak> K-Ryan: never skip releases
[08:01] <fql> whippy: mm, maybe amigu is not a english word, it means the same word has more meanings
[08:01] <gnomefreak> :)
[08:01] <K-Ryan> I thought he was on Feisty though
[08:01] <cs5> edgy more stable?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> thats one sure way to screw up a system
[08:01] <gnomefreak> cs5: you need to upgrade 1 release at a time
[08:02] <K-Ryan> gnomefreak: I thought he was on Feisty and it just said Dapper
[08:02] <K-Ryan> That was my mistake =)
[08:02] <cs5> it is Dapper.
[08:02] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[08:02] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:02] <K-Ryan> Okay, it makes perfect sense to me now
[08:02] <cs5> !upgrade
[08:02] <gnomefreak> cs5: since you are going up 2 releases i suggest you do a fresh install of feisty
[08:02] <K-Ryan> Upgrading to edgy was a pain
[08:02] <whippy> who did talking to me about c++ and qt4?
[08:02] <K-Ryan> Feisty was nice and easy though
[08:02] <whippy> seems to be really fine
[08:02] <pwilson> I'm getting an error quite constantly in terminal, could someone help? It says "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" how can I remidy this?
[08:02] <fql> whippy: but I'm going to wait for the next kubuntu, it is supposed to include a release candidate of kde4 so I don't need to emualte it :-)
[08:03] <CarinArr> i try to stay awy from actually upgrading
[08:03] <fql> whippy: that was me
[08:03] <CarinArr> i keep things separate and just reinstall completely
[08:03] <agresor> Hello All.
[08:03] <cs5> so i need new dvd?
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: no
[08:03] <whippy> @fql gonna try qt4,
[08:03] <cs5> or can i instal from same disk
[08:03] <cs5> ok
[08:03] <gnomefreak> cs5: or cd  you dont have to but i suggest it
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: well, actually you do
[08:03] <agresor> my fglx driver dont work
[08:03] <whippy> seems to be used evrywherer
[08:03] <K-Ryan> You install from the net unless you use the cd
[08:03] <agresor> Direct rendering : NO
[08:03] <MarcC> cs5: upgrading your distro shouldn't go so bad - you don't have anything but official packages installed
[08:03] <K-Ryan> !fglrx
[08:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:03] <agresor> i have ati 9200
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> cs5: it'll be faster
[08:03] <agresor> ;s
[08:03] <agresor> is fglx support 9200 ?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> cs5: please read the above comment by ubotu on how to upgrade
[08:04] <K-Ryan> Dunno
[08:04] <gnomefreak> sorry dont get new cd
[08:04] <gnomefreak> you know what i mean
[08:04] <whippy> kubuntu is one of the best systems i ever tested,
[08:04] <CarinArr> o.O
[08:04] <agresor> brb
[08:04] <whippy> its really stale,
[08:04] <cs5> i have alot of reading to do....lol ty. Ill read first and come back it seems there is much help for me yet
[08:04] <whippy> stable
[08:04] <gnomefreak> download the iso and install it but save anything you need or want to save
[08:04] <pwilson> how do I install the Xfree86 DRI extention?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> cs5: with upgrading you are going to run into issues (that is a 95% odds)
[08:05] <BluesKaj> whippy, I'm surprised you aren't praising the likes of freebsd :)_
[08:05] <pwilson> To Fix -"XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[08:05] <whippy> does someone know where to change the auto-loader for software?
[08:05] <cs5> so better to clean instal then
[08:05] <whippy> if i klick on a file with .jpg it openes for examp gimp,
[08:05] <gnomefreak> cs5: yes
[08:05] <whippy> how can i change the opening software?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> cs5: when you are not just doing one release
[08:05] <BluesKaj> pwilson, what graphics card ?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> right click on a file of that extension, go to properties
[08:05] <agresor> !fglrx
[08:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> whippy: its in system settings >> default applications
[08:05] <pwilson> ATI Radean M22
[08:06] <K-Ryan> Or follow what Admiral_Chicago said
[08:06] <pwilson> They are installed, and working, just getting that error.
[08:06] <whippy> cool thanks,
[08:06] <whippy> only wanted to know if i would need ;)
[08:07] <pwilson> open gl is working, (1200 fps with glx gears) I just keep getting that prob in terminal.
[08:07] <whippy> wo programms in qt4 here?
[08:07] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  do u know who rpocess can disable to PC go faster
[08:07] <CarinArr> whippy: i do
[08:07] <CarinArr> but this is offtopic
[08:07] <K-Ryan> Not really, sorry lvis
[08:07] <whippy> @carinarr do you use a IDE with drag and drop?
[08:07] <K-Ryan> You can use a different window manager
[08:07] <K-Ryan> !fluxbox
[08:07] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[08:08] <gnomefreak> whippy: take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <CarinArr> whippy: qt-designer does that
[08:08] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  fluxbox is hard there i can't set wallpapers,icons
[08:08] <whippy> what is the irc command to change channel
[08:08] <K-Ryan> It's not hard
[08:08] <service> hi there. i have a question about computers. can anyone help? please
[08:08] <CarinArr> whippy: sudo apt-get install qt4-designer
[08:08] <Ivis> :)
[08:08] <whippy> thanks
[08:08] <pwilson> So, if the proper driver is installed, could the missing dri extention error just be an issue with my xorg.conf file?
[08:08] <K-Ryan> You right click and it's in one of those menus
[08:08] <gnomefreak> try /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Let me find it
[08:09] <whippy> thanks
[08:09] <K-Ryan> brb...
[08:09] <nnoeonn> !nvidia
[08:09] <whippy> @carinarr do you move to kubuntu offtopic with me...
[08:09] <whippy> thankds
[08:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:10] <fenrig> hi
[08:11] <wanderlange> Hi! Hola! Ol!
[08:11] <fenrig> when i push the eject button of my cd drive i get the error that only root can umount /dev/hda
[08:11] <fenrig> is there a fix
[08:11] <fenrig> because this is not normal
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> odd. you may need to set fstab to mount cd drive as user
[08:11] <fenrig> i know made a script that umount /dev/hda but i just want to do it faster
[08:12] <agresor> ;D
[08:12] <agresor> Success..
[08:12] <fenrig> fstab, what is the location of this (text)file
[08:12] <agresor> driver "ati" work for my ATI 9200
[08:12] <agresor> :))
[08:12] <BluesKaj> pwilson, the Radeon driver for X300 and M22 supports only 2D , so I assume DRI is also excluded ...the following tutorial has been successful with some X300 cards , so it may work for the M22. http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[08:12] <agresor> rendering works
[08:12] <agresor> :D
[08:12] <CarinArr> i am
[08:12] <CarinArr> er
[08:12] <CarinArr> wrong widnow
[08:13] <agresor> is there eny software that alows startup programs menanger ?
[08:13] <agresor> i need startup menanger ?
[08:13] <sx66> where do I set my power management properties?
[08:13] <cs5> i am going to do a fresh instal as i have to go 2 upgrades and am not very good with ubuntu yet, is there a dvd or only cd images?
[08:14] <agresor> Cs5, u can burn cd image on dvd..
[08:14] <agresor> if u wanna it :p
[08:14] <cs5> oh
[08:14] <cs5> i have tried with other iso's and have not been successful as it is an iso for a certain size
[08:14] <cs5> ill try it though
[08:14] <sx66> where do I find power management properties for laptops? I have installed power management, and laptop battery from the add/remove, but I can not find where it has been located in the menus
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Okay, I'm back
[08:15] <agresor> K-Ryan,  wb
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Thank you =)
[08:15] <agresor> K-Ryan,  do u know how to manange some starup applications ?
[08:15] <agresor> how to put to be start at boot...
[08:15] <agresor> etc..
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> agresor: ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> err, that would be at log in time
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Well there ya' go
[08:16] <K-Ryan> Yeah I think he means at login
[08:16] <agresor>  :p
[08:16] <agresor> I need at boot..
[08:16] <sx66> K-Ryan: where do I find power management properties for laptops? I have installed power management, and laptop battery from the add/remove, but I can not find where it has been located in the menus
[08:16] <agresor> FOr example i have using my pc like Dedicated Server
[08:16] <agresor> now lots of users use some same process..
[08:16] <agresor> i want when pc reboot
[08:16] <agresor> that aggain start same proces
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> agresor: you are looking for the startup services, not sure how to do that.
[08:16] <K-Ryan> I don't know if you can do that at boot...
[08:16] <agresor> :(
[08:17] <agresor> startup-tasks - definitions of essential tasks to run on startup
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i think you can, just not sure how
[08:17] <K-Ryan> sx66: Sorry I'm on a desktop and have only done minor work with a laptop. Not sure about your battery program.
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> sx66: might be in kicker
[08:18] <nnoeonn> !ati
[08:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:18] <sx66> Admiral_Chicago: where is kicker?
[08:18] <Admiral_Chicago> sx66: that is your panel, its the thing with the kmenu
[08:18] <yotux> Can anyone offer some help with using Rsync to sync my kmail folders
[08:20] <MarcC> sx66: do you have klaptop installed?
[08:20] <sx66> where would I find that? MarcC
[08:20] <MarcC> sx66: sudo apt-get install klaptop
[08:20] <MarcC> or if you think you have it, KMenu -> Run Command -> klaptop
[08:20] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, there you are ..I was called away for 20mins or so
[08:20] <sx66> can not find it.
[08:22] <MarcC> k, hold on
[08:22] <MarcC> tried searching adept?
[08:22] <sx66> I am hold on
[08:23] <MarcC> ah, it's klaptopdaemon
[08:23] <MarcC> sudo apt-get install klaptopdaemon
[08:23] <sx66> lol
[08:23] <MarcC> then type "klaptopdaemon" to start it
[08:24] <MarcC> lol?
[08:24] <whippy> whats the klaptopddaemon?
[08:24] <sx66> MarcC: could not find get lock ubable to loac the admin directory
[08:25] <whippy> in which repository  ;) bigfunnysmileon
[08:25] <K-Ryan> !info klaptopdaemon
[08:25] <MarcC> whippy: it's for managing power and stuff for laptops
[08:25] <sx66> E:
[08:25] <ubotu> klaptopdaemon: battery monitoring and management for laptops using KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 250 kB, installed size 932 kB
[08:25] <whippy> okay
[08:25] <MarcC> it's like power manager
[08:25] <K-Ryan> Well there's the problem
[08:25] <sx66> what problem?
[08:26] <K-Ryan> Have you opened your repos?
[08:26] <whippy> ohhh....
[08:26] <BluesKaj> sx66, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:26] <K-Ryan> Universe to be exact
[08:26] <whippy> there is really a klaptopdeamon,
[08:26] <MarcC> sx66: that can mean you already have adept or synaptic open
[08:26] <whippy> i didnt knew
[08:26] <sx66> oh
[08:26] <whippy> apt-cache search succeeded ;)
[08:27] <MarcC> you don't really need klaptopdaemon if you already have power manager running, but if you don't have either one...might as well try klaptopdaemon :)
[08:27] <whippy> or if you use a tower hihi
[08:27] <whippy> ;)
[08:27] <whippy> only joking...
[08:27] <whippy> ;) x'cuse
[08:28] <whippy> nor u use a power off system for towers, than perhaps...
[08:28] <sx66> yeah, i need to config the backlight, and cpu settings, and screen shut down to blank...where do I find that?
[08:29] <MarcC> klaptopdaemon or power manager
[08:29] <MarcC> it'll show up in the system tray after you start either one
[08:29] <MarcC> if power manager, just click on the battery icon
[08:29] <MarcC> if klaptopdaemon, right click
[08:29] <sx66> where is the power manager? I see the baattery icon, but it does not config the backlight and sleep timer etc.
[08:30] <MarcC> is it a green icon with a lightning bolt?
[08:30] <MarcC> or just a green icon?
[08:30] <MarcC> (lightning bolt means it's charging)
[08:30] <sx66> ah, yes, I see it, it does not have a menu to control the backlight to off on a timer setting (ex. of 1 min)
[08:31] <MarcC> sx66: if it's the green icon, that's power manager - it doesn't have as many settings as klaptopdaemon
[08:31] <sx66> k
[08:31] <fenrig> hi
[08:31] <binks> how can i reset kaffeine to its default video setting from c/l
[08:31] <fenrig> what is the location of fstab
[08:31] <sx66> I am going to restart. hold on
[08:31] <MarcC> lol, you don't need to restart :/
[08:32] <MarcC> why does everybody restart so much?
[08:32] <nnoeonn> AAAARRRRGGGHHH *rips his head off*
[08:32] <nnoeonn> I dont get it :S:S
[08:32] <fenrig> MarcC because people hope for miracles
[08:32] <binks> MarcC: windows habbits
[08:32] <MarcC> binks: I guess you're right :D
[08:32] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn,  are you trying to play games
[08:32] <BluesKaj> ?
[08:32] <fenrig> hi what is the location of fstab?
[08:33] <MarcC> etc/fstab?
[08:33] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj: no xD Trying to watch a bloody avi... :(
[08:33] <MarcC> nnoeonn: which software?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> what player?
[08:33] <binks> its a core lesson on any m/s course - how to nack your machine quickly with the aide of repeated restarts
[08:33] <nnoeonn> vlc..
[08:33] <nnoeonn> but it laggs... :'(:'(
[08:33] <MarcC> binks: lol
[08:34] <MarcC> nnoeonn: could be the file...tried it in mplayer or kaffeine?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn, maybe the avi is faulty , try another
[08:34] <nnoeonn> the thing is that everything that has with graphichs to do laggs... :(
[08:34] <nnoeonn> Exept the a test i did, there i got 250 fps O.o
[08:34] <binks> extra codecs and xine maybe
[08:34] <MarcC> binks: two Windows habits that new Linux users seem to have: restart and reformat
[08:34] <Ze_M> is there a more recent release than feisty?
[08:35] <binks> Ze_M: why
[08:35] <nnoeonn> Ze_M: No dont think so
[08:35] <theRealballchalk> what utility is there to uncompress rar files with r01 to r43?
[08:35] <MarcC> nnoeonn: 250 fps is not that great...which drivers are you using for your graphics card?
[08:35] <MarcC> (assuming you meant glxgears fps)
[08:35] <nnoeonn> x~somthing
[08:35] <Ze_M> nnoeonn: whats gutsy?
[08:35] <MarcC> nnoeonn: graphics card make/model?
[08:35] <binks> Ze_M: unstable but newer
[08:35] <BluesKaj> MarcC, that is about as good as his card will do
[08:35] <nnoeonn> radeon x300
[08:35] <MarcC> oh :D
[08:35] <eagles0513875> what bout it nnoeonn
[08:35] <eagles0513875> u trying to get open gl working
[08:35] <Ze_M> from where can idownload gutsy install cd?
[08:36] <nnoeonn> something like that
[08:36] <Daisuke_Ido> (averaging 4600fps right now)
[08:36] <nnoeonn> ze_M: what do u mean "gutsy"?
[08:36] <eagles0513875> i have a perfect link for ya nnoeonn
[08:36] <eagles0513875> give me a min
[08:36] <nnoeonn> Daisuke_ido... xD
[08:36] <binks> Ze_M:  you need to be in #ubuntu+
[08:36] <MarcC> Daisuke_Ido: 4600? wow
[08:36] <nnoeonn> eagle, anything right now xD
[08:36] <MarcC> what's your setup?
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu+1
[08:36] <whippy> @theRealballchalk... wait
[08:36] <whippy> im searching ;)
[08:37] <Ze_M> nnoeonn: read http://www.kubuntu.org/
[08:37] <nnoeonn> Because if i wont get it to work soon, im goin to windows
[08:37] <whippy> ark?
[08:37] <Ze_M> any real kubuntu supporter here?
[08:37] <nnoeonn> Ze_M, Ive tried, belive me, i've tried
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Ze_M: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[08:37] <BluesKaj> MarcC, what card?
[08:37] <nnoeonn> Gotta be one of the new geforce
[08:37] <MarcC> BluesKaj: nvidia geforce go 7300 or something like that
[08:38] <Ze_M> admincca: thanks
[08:38] <MarcC> 256MB
[08:38] <eagles0513875> http://mail.google.com/mail/?auth=DQAAAHkAAABmpro6zJl_Xq_88ugOJMKHDRWHiR4KAstDE5nYnZJp_p9M_pxi77uG8y8qm1EXgRa8M447Jiz0cHWuPPdF52rmQ-MI_K_U3q404mN6VRa3nJ9xeLQvLrFoCLdcck8I_HvlMyLlIwsORhreQVtjj8Jv57769eGl37B1RdvmeE0o9w
[08:38] <eagles0513875> there not that
[08:38] <Ze_M> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[08:38] <MarcC> it's the dell 1505N
[08:38] <eagles0513875> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[08:38] <fenrig> hi where can i find a standard fstab?
[08:38] <eagles0513875> there u go nnoeonn
[08:38] <eagles0513875> what u mean fenrig
[08:38] <nnoeonn> Ill try that eagle
[08:38] <eagles0513875> u looking for the fstab on ur machine
[08:38] <whippy> @fenrig ? standard fstab?
[08:38] <whippy> fstab does mount devices, you gonna have.
[08:38] <eagles0513875> take a look at /etc/fstab
[08:38] <whippy> depends on your system
[08:39] <whippy> normally there is a standard on your system
[08:39] <whippy> you can add devices
[08:39] <whippy> you would need
[08:39] <fenrig> i need to see a cdrom/dvd mount entry in fstab of someone else who doesnt have any problems with his device
[08:39] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: mail.google.com requires login
[08:39] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, he's already got 3D and DRI ...I think he needs codecs
[08:39] <ircN_user> I'we just installed Kubuntu on my computer, I installed it and then i got the message to reboot. I did that, but then, windows XP opend up. I went to the meny to choose between XP and Linux, but on the list was it onlu Windows XP that stood.
[08:39] <eagles0513875> not that link
[08:39] <ardchoille> !codecs
[08:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <ircN_user> Some idea?
[08:40] <eagles0513875> im going to work on my website so i can just link people to the site instead
[08:40] <ircN_user> I'we just installed Kubuntu on my computer, I installed it and then i got the message to reboot. I did that, but then, windows XP opend up. I went to the meny to choose between XP and Linux, but on the list was it onlu Windows XP that stood.
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> ircN_user: odd, do you only have one HD?
[08:40] <BluesKaj> nnoeonn , have you tried install lixine-extracodecs and libdvdcss2 ?
[08:41] <BluesKaj> libxine-extracodecs, nnoeonn
[08:41] <fenrig> !fstab
[08:41] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:41] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss
[08:41] <ircN_user> Admiral_Chicago - No 3 different, one with xp, one with linux and one with movies
[08:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:41] <sx66> okay, I can not find the 'turn of screen' menu for power management (ex. 1 min if now used)...in kpower or the green battery.
[08:41] <nnoeonn> Blueskaj: no, but that's not my real problem, or atleast i dont think so
[08:44] <jlund> ircN_user: When you say you chose Linux from the menu was it a Grub menu?
[08:44] <fenrig> will the changes to fstab take effect without a restart
[08:44] <ircN_user> I didn choose linux, linux didnt stand there
[08:44] <ircN_user> Just Windows XP
[08:44] <CarinArr> fenrig: sudo mount -a
[08:44] <CarinArr> fenrig: and it will update to whatever is in /etc/fstab
[08:45] <binks> how can i remove an app and its config file
[08:45] <nico_> hello anybody knows how to get the driver for a webcam logitech
[08:45] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get remove <package> --purge
[08:45] <fenrig> i can't umount the cd drive
[08:45] <fenrig> whats this?
[08:45] <fenrig> it needs root administartions
[08:45] <K-Ryan> That's for binks
[08:45] <fenrig> or something, how can i fix this?
[08:46] <binks> K-Ryan: cheers
[08:46] <K-Ryan> ;)
[08:46] <K-Ryan> fenrig
[08:46] <K-Ryan> sudo umount /dev/<device name>
[08:46] <ircN_user> Hm
[08:46] <K-Ryan> !webcam
[08:46] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Try your luck there nico_
[08:47] <nnoeonn> ok, i'm getting sick of this xD I have no idea of what i've installed, or anything, i'm reinstalling O.o
[08:47] <fenrig> k-ryan: i want linux to do this automatically not by hand
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Do it when?
[08:47] <nico_>  Works fine out of the box.... not for me.....
[08:48] <MarcC> when in doubt, just reinstall everything :P
[08:48] <K-Ryan> nico_ Look around the first link then, if there's nothing there stick around in the channel until someone can help
[08:48] <MarcC> I guess if it feels good...
[08:48] <Ze_M> Admiral_Chicago: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ its the most recent?
[08:49] <nico_> my webcam is seen but when i launch camorama , "could not connect  to video device"
[08:51] <nico_> i want to smash my camera ^^ ....
[08:51] <jlund> ircN_user: It doesn't sound like Grub installed onto your primary hard drive. Your setup with three different hard drives is a little unconventional. You can choose in your BIOS to boot to your Linux hard drive and once there you can install GRUB onto your primary drive that currently has XP.
[08:53] <cs5> anyone know what package i would need to access and use an external usb burner?
[08:53] <jlund> cs5: K3b doesn't just see it?
[08:54] <cs5> lol, yes. nevermind....lol. I didn't have it in any lists anywhere and assumed the worst, its there, ty
[08:55] <ax1s> hi
[08:55] <cs5> jlund do you know if i can burn cd iso to dvd disk? I was told earlier it would work and ive only tried in windows and it doesnt work there.
[08:56] <K-Ryan> cs5: Should be able to
[08:56] <cs5> ok, ty
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I mean, I think so anyway
[08:56] <fenrig> how do i create a symlink in kde?
[08:57] <ax1s> icons.. home come os-k icon set isn't working for me
[08:57] <ax1s> :(
[08:57] <ax1s> some of the icons changed ...
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Ze_M: yes
[08:57] <cs5> ill try it, only a small waste of time if it doesnt work. id rather download 700 mb than 4 gb
[08:57] <jlund> cs5: Yes you can. In K3b just choose Burn DVD ISO from the Tools menu and then select the CD ISO. It works and I know because I burned my Kubuntu install disc to a DVD-R because I was out of CDs.
[08:57] <ax1s> some icons not completely free? ubuntu didn't install support? do i need qt ?
[08:57] <cs5> awesome ty Jlund
[08:57] <cs5> ty all
[08:58] <fenrig> how do i create a symlink
[08:58] <vzduch> interesting..
[08:58] <jlund> You're welcome
[08:58] <vzduch> fenrig: ln -s <theFileYouWantToLink> <nameOfSymlink>
[08:58] <ax1s> i'm almost completely satisfied with my setup
[08:58] <ax1s> just the icons ...
[08:58] <fenrig> a symlink is aso for folders right?
[08:59] <ax1s> how come when i added the theme, all the folders didn't change to the new default.. ahhhhh
[08:59] <jlund> fenrig: The syntax for symlinks is similar to that of cp in that you are taking something that already exists and copying it to a new location. So it is ln -s <FileToLink> <WhereYouWantLinkToGo>
[08:59] <jlund> fenrig: Yes
[08:59] <jlund> vzduch: You beat me!
[09:00] <ax1s> is kde-look the only place to get icon sets for kde
[09:01] <BluesKaj> ax1s, you can also change icon in it's properties dialog
[09:02] <ax1s> Okay.. but say I want all of _these_ type to look like _this_
[09:02] <ax1s> like some of them show up in the icon find box, but when i select them they don't let me change!
[09:03] <clayg> anyone played mugen on nix? looking for a copy and see nothing but linx about how it has a dos, linux version and finally a windows version, of coarse can't find the linux version anywhere and rather have native than a wine'd ver.
[09:04] <ax1s> clayg: did you try to wine it?
[09:05] <ax1s> The engine was originally released in July 17, 1999. Beta versions of it were made to work on DOS, Linux and Windows platforms, distributed through their website or to donators via email. With the release of the Linux version, support for DOS ceased.
[09:06] <clayg> I did not try to wine it, I am trying to find a native version but will if i must
[09:06] <clayg> nothing against wine at all, in fact it plays wow better than xp on the same system (no clue how since it's "emulated")
[09:08] <ax1s> clayg: found it
[09:09] <ax1s> clayg: http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/hosted/misc/mugen-2002-04-14.tar.bz2
[09:09] <ax1s> found it on http://randomselect.i-xcell.com/
[09:10] <clayg> axls
[09:10] <clayg> you are the man
[09:10] <ax1s> :D
[09:10] <clayg> how did you reference it?
[09:10] <ax1s> uhmm
[09:10] <clayg> i tried "ubuntu mugun" "linux mugun" even searched slashdot
[09:10] <ax1s> mugen download linux
[09:10] <ax1s> at the very bottom
[09:10] <clayg>  /palmslapsforehead
[09:10] <ax1s> ;D
[09:10] <ax1s> GooGle-Fu
[09:10] <clayg> thanks,
[09:11] <clayg> hey you ever mess with mame?
[09:11] <ax1s> glad i could assist hahahaha
[09:11] <ax1s> nah
[09:11] <ax1s> not yet anyway ;] 
[09:11] <ax1s> was thinking about making an actual arcade machine
[09:11] <ax1s> with switchable os
[09:11] <clayg> yeah i need to break my mmo addiction lol
[09:11] <clayg> oh damn
[09:11] <clayg> that would be sweet
[09:11] <ax1s> man
[09:11] <clayg> probally cheap to
[09:11] <ax1s> so easy now
[09:11] <ax1s> just get a regular cheap table
[09:11] <clayg> get a broke arcade game use it as a frame
[09:11] <ax1s> cut out a spot for screen
[09:11] <ax1s> yah
[09:11] <ax1s> that
[09:11] <ax1s> anything
[09:11] <ax1s> i wanna make like
[09:12] <ax1s> the old pacman
[09:12] <ax1s> table
[09:12] <ax1s> where each turn it reverses screen ;D
[09:12] <ax1s> you seen those
[09:12] <clayg> no
[09:12] <ax1s> http://www.staramusement.com/images/mspacblu.gif
[09:12] <ax1s> image that packed with every emulator ever
[09:12] <ax1s> hahahahha
[09:13] <ax1s> instead of that joystick tho
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> this is offtopic, please see #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:13] <clayg> yeah dude i have see that
[09:13] <genii> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks
[09:13] <clayg> ok taking it ooc
[09:13] <K-Ryan> ooc?
[09:13] <clayg> out of channel
[09:13] <K-Ryan> Gotcha
[09:13] <ax1s> hahahah i don't see anyone talking about anything else
[09:14] <clayg> lol
[09:14] <ax1s> anywhoo that's about it
[09:14] <ax1s> sweet lil table
[09:14] <ax1s> screen flips each turn
[09:14] <ubuntu_> hi there
[09:14] <ubuntu_> i'm testing kubuntu atm
[09:14] <ax1s> nice
[09:14] <ax1s> it works!
[09:14] <ax1s> ;P
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Like it?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> where can i get a 3d desktop?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> ya its kind of cool
[09:15] <K-Ryan> 3D desktop as in what?
[09:15] <ax1s> what vcard you got ... ati/nvidia/intel?
[09:15] <ubuntu_> nvidia
[09:15] <ax1s> deal
[09:15] <K-Ryan> Beryl kind of stuff?
[09:15] <ax1s> you want like the 3d effects stuff beryl
[09:15] <ubuntu_> xgf or what its called worked with mandriva
[09:15] <ax1s> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[09:15] <ax1s> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia
[09:15] <K-Ryan> I don't know about setting it up on the live cd
[09:16] <K-Ryan> But I'm sure it can be done
[09:16] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Not gonna happen.
[09:16] <K-Ryan> It can't?
[09:16] <ubuntu_> wont work?
[09:16] <ax1s> ubuntu's testing out the install, not live cd i think
[09:16] <ax1s> oh
[09:16] <jhutchins_lt> At least highly impractical.
[09:16] <ubuntu_> mhhh
[09:16] <K-Ryan> I think it can be done
[09:16] <ax1s> can you apt-get it
[09:16] <ax1s> so do i
[09:16] <ax1s> oh
[09:16] <ax1s> it would be slow ass
[09:16] <ubuntu_> well then i need a opinion if it rocks
[09:16] <ubuntu_> and if its worth using it
[09:16] <ax1s> ubuntu: look at google video / youtube
[09:17] <jhutchins_lt> Remember with the live CD everything that's not on the CD has to be done in RAM, and you loose it every time you shut down.
[09:17] <K-Ryan> Install Kubuntu and get Beryl =)
[09:17] <ax1s> I'm wondering about Project Looking Glass w/ Beryl
[09:17] <ubuntu_> i think i will :D
[09:17] <ubuntu_> is there any chance to run windows "under" kubuntu
[09:17] <ubuntu_> i need it for my pda
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_: virtualization
[09:17] <ax1s> ubuntu: yes but without 3d fx
[09:17] <ubuntu_> :/
[09:17] <ax1s> not directx
[09:17] <ax1s> no*
[09:17] <jhutchins_lt> wine/cedega/crossover-office will run some windows programs
[09:17] <ubuntu_> thats not needed :D
[09:18] <ax1s> ubuntu: vmware, was 5,000 grand
[09:18] <ax1s> now free
[09:18] <ubuntu_> no emulator for a whole windows?!
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Whoa whoa whoa
[09:18] <jhutchins_lt> There are several VM systems, but no, no full emulation.  Microsoft would have a cow.
[09:18] <K-Ryan> 5 G's?
[09:18] <ax1s> k-ryan: it was, back in the day
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Wow
[09:18] <ax1s> for 1 person licence
[09:19] <ax1s> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[09:19] <ax1s> the "player" was free
[09:19] <ubuntu_> mandriva says they got one?
[09:19] <ubuntu_> wait i will search for a link
[09:19] <ax1s> well there is a completely free one.. called Nex
[09:19] <ax1s> or something
[09:19] <ax1s> XEN
[09:19] <ax1s> sorry
[09:20] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: Besides, you can always dual boot if you want to run windows games or something.
[09:21] <ax1s> although i haven't been able to not play a game yet
[09:21] <ax1s> like
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> `
[09:21] <ax1s> i haven't tried many fps, but EVE Rev works
[09:21] <ax1s> which should be all that matters ;] 
[09:21] <ubuntu_> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/spring/explore
[09:21] <BluesKaj> this is offtopic , but important ..MPAA had a fake movie download site running linked to www.godaddy.com ...if you DL'd a movie it put spyware on your pc and reported back
[09:22] <ax1s> Choose your technology:
[09:22] <ax1s>     *
[09:22] <ax1s>       VirtualBox
[09:22] <ax1s>     *
[09:22] <ax1s>       VMware
[09:22] <ax1s>     *
[09:22] <ax1s>       QtEmu
[09:22] <K-Ryan> That's interesting BluesKaj
[09:22] <ubuntu_> alle freeware?
[09:22] <ax1s> ubuntu: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[09:22] <ax1s> yup
[09:23] <ax1s> there's a ubuntu install right there with the downloads
[09:23] <ax1s> ubuntu is the best thing since sliced bread
[09:23] <ax1s> "debian" done right
[09:23] <BluesKaj> hehe, what's so great about sliced bread :)
[09:23] <ax1s> i used mandriva when it was mandrake
[09:23] <ax1s> blue: i can spread nutella on it ;] 
[09:24] <ax1s> imagine what i can spread onto kubuntu
[09:24] <ax1s> ;D
[09:24] <BluesKaj> waaaay better than sliced bread
[09:24] <ubuntu_> cool thing
[09:24] <ax1s> uhm
[09:24] <ax1s> ubuntu if you're not sold
[09:24] <ax1s> sec
[09:24] <ubuntu_> i think i found my distribution :D
[09:24] <ax1s> i fill find you awesome vid
[09:24] <ubuntu_> awesome
[09:24] <BluesKaj> yeah , tried mandriva ...crappy hardware recognition
[09:24] <ax1s> okhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak
[09:24] <ax1s> er
[09:24] <ax1s> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak
[09:25] <ax1s> watch what he does to the video of lost
[09:25] <ubuntu_> konquerer flash compatible?
[09:25] <ax1s> i use firefox, but yah
[09:25] <ax1s> konqueror for the file browser
[09:26] <ax1s> like exploere is both kinda
[09:26] <BluesKaj> konqueror is ok for browsing where IE is required
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Actually, mandriva has handled my hardware better than *buntu, that' s one reason I have it on this box.
[09:26] <ax1s> BluesKaj: Really, how so?
[09:26] <BluesKaj> very few sites , but some still exist
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> I've also been running it more than *buntu, so I'm more familiar with it.
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: What version and hardware did you have trouble with?
[09:27] <ax1s> jhutchins:  i should ask you the same, sir!
[09:27] <ax1s> =] 
[09:27] <runpain2> thank kr it did it with the supergrubdisk
[09:27] <ax1s> what hardware issues did you have with buntu
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Oh that did work?
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Glad to hear!
[09:27] <kharloss> hi there .
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Hi kharloss
[09:27] <jhutchins_lt> Edgy and Feisty on a Thinkpad with three different net adapters, and Feisty on a Toshiba with two.
[09:28] <ax1s> jhutchins_lt: External devices?
[09:28] <jhutchins_lt> I also haven't seen the sound problems with Mandriva that we see here.
[09:28] <ax1s> hrm.
[09:28] <ax1s> i thought my exitgy worked right out of the box
[09:28] <ax1s> and all creative cards
[09:29] <jhutchins_lt> ax1s: Some people have trouble.
[09:29] <runpain2> Kr it is a mirical ;D
[09:29] <ax1s> OHHH right
[09:29] <ax1s> cause of alsactl
[09:29] <jhutchins_lt> ax1s: There's a chronic problem with the SPDIF output being the default.
[09:29] <ax1s> right
[09:29] <BluesKaj> jhutchins , was looking ..it's the Mandriva Powerpack 2006 i 586
[09:29] <runpain2> where you from KR
[09:29] <ax1s> jhutch: easy fix ;] 
[09:29] <ax1s> i agree, should be implemented
[09:30] <ax1s> if they can mess with kcontrol so badly, they can change that.. ahahha
[09:30] <jhutchins_lt> I don't mean to knock *buntu, but my current impression is that some hardware is kinda chancy in *buntu right now, wireless and sound especially.
[09:30] <K-Ryan> New York
[09:30] <ubuntu_> do u use any icq clients?
[09:30] <ubuntu_> on win i liked miranda
[09:30] <jhutchins_lt> Seem to be some things that sometimes work, sometimes don't.
[09:30] <runpain2> I was Born in Rochester
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Long Islander here
[09:30] <ax1s> jhutchins_lt:  I didn't realize mandriva cured proprietary drive issues?
[09:30] <runpain2> Grewup in SE Florida
[09:30] <ax1s> driver*
[09:30] <jhutchins_lt> ax1s: Not claiming they did.
[09:30] <ax1s> *double checks HW support
[09:31] <runpain2> Live in East Texas now 8 years
[09:31] <ax1s> hey, maybe they do just support more
[09:31] <ubuntu_> finally youtube vid is loading :D
[09:31] <jhutchins_lt> My 2007.1 is pretty solid.
[09:31] <runpain2> Dam Yankee i am
[09:31] <K-Ryan> =)
[09:31] <runpain2> :P
[09:31] <ax1s> ubuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak
[09:31] <ubuntu_> guess where iam from ;)
[09:31] <K-Ryan> So, new to Linux I guess runpain2?
[09:32] <runpain2> whats the diffrance from a Yankee and a dam Yankee KR
[09:32] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: It would be pointless in guessing, we get people in here from all over the world.
[09:32] <ubuntu_> :D
[09:32] <jhutchins_lt> Then again, no real complaints about my Feisty box, had sound issues but I fixed 'em.
[09:32] <runpain2> yes a green horn 1 year
[09:32] <ax1s> i'm from canada, mang
[09:32] <ubuntu_> germany
[09:32] <K-Ryan> Ah, you beat me by a little bit runpain2 =P
[09:32] <K-Ryan> Germany eh?
[09:32] <glasst> wondering if someone has been able to have kubuntu or any other distro mount and write to internal sd card; have heard this is hard and not found a way to get this done; using live cd with hp laptop
[09:32] <BluesKaj> ax1s, same here ...where in canucksville are you ?
[09:32] <runpain2> a yankee comes and visets and dam yankee stays
[09:33] <K-Ryan> =P
[09:33] <ax1s> glasst: your internal sd card reader isn't working? what model  HP
[09:33] <ubuntu_> glasst if you got a clue query me :D
[09:33] <runpain2> O_o
[09:33] <ax1s> BluesKaj: HAMILTON
[09:33] <ax1s> lol
[09:33] <ubuntu_> but i dont got a hp
[09:33] <jhutchins_lt> Oh yeah, and plug-and-play USB on 'buntu.
[09:33] <ak007> hi
[09:33] <jhutchins_lt> ... and mounting devices root-only.
[09:34] <K-Ryan> Hi there ak007
[09:34] <ax1s> glasst: the internal sd card works on my laptop
[09:34] <glasst> ax1s; its compaq nc 6000
[09:34] <jhutchins_lt> Heh.  Barbers on irc.
[09:34] <ax1s> glasst: Sec.
[09:34] <BluesKaj> aha ax1s, my daughter attended Mac ...Espanola ON here
[09:34] <runpain2> yup here and there
[09:35] <ubuntu_> this youtube vid is it beryl?
[09:35] <runpain2> im on #jesus too
[09:35] <K-Ryan> runpain2: Go to youtube and punch in beryl, click the first video
[09:35] <glasst> ax1s; did you have to  do anything to get the card to work
[09:36] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, well someone has to our hair ...whay little of it i have left even :)
[09:36] <ax1s> glasst: : check this first http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2635321
[09:36] <BluesKaj> cut
[09:36] <ax1s> glasst: no, hold on a sec i will find you a better link, but check that
[09:36] <runpain2> kk
[09:37] <ax1s> BluesKaj: They have Einsteins BRAIN at MAC.. BWAHAhaha
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Oh damn, I said runpain2, sorry
[09:37] <K-Ryan> I meant ubuntu_ =)
[09:37] <BluesKaj> ax1s, just a small piece of it
[09:37] <K-Ryan> The whole "im on #jesus too" thing confused me there...
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Silly me =)
[09:37] <runpain2> cool any way
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Been around for a year and you don't have Beryl?
[09:38] <glasst> ax1s; ok will read both links
[09:39] <giorgio> ciao
[09:39] <giorgio> hi
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Hi giorgio
[09:39] <giorgio> i'm italian
[09:39] <K-Ryan> !italian
[09:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:39] <BluesKaj> beryl ..bah humbug ...eyecandy for the shallow linux user :)
[09:39] <giorgio> ok grazie
[09:39] <K-Ryan> You're welcome =)
[09:40] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: Some eyecandy here and there isn't bad
[09:41] <fdoving> i was not a big fan of beryl, but compiz fusion is much better, i acually have it running for more than 4 days, without one crash.
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Someone said I should get that
[09:42] <BluesKaj> yeah , just funnin' the window dressing crowd
[09:42] <K-Ryan> That "beryl" is old
[09:42] <K-Ryan> But since I'm on Fluxbox, well neither will do me any good
[09:43] <ax1s> glasst: looks like you are SOOL
[09:43] <K-Ryan> of isn't part of the acronym ;)
[09:43] <ax1s> glasst: you can run windows inside vmware, then  have a portal folder going between the two os'
[09:44] <ax1s> glasst: But other then that, you will have to join the waiting list for linux drivers for that SD reader
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Hey do you think you could run Mac in Windows in Linux?
[09:44] <ubuntu_> is this a own network?
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Or any combination like that
[09:44] <ubuntu_> i got a bnc at qnet
[09:44] <ubuntu_> but i will need help at the startup
[09:44] <ax1s> K-Ryan: If you had enough power, sure .. but why not just run BSD with linux / windows / mac all in vmware ?
[09:44] <ax1s> :)
[09:44] <fdoving> ubuntu_: this is the freenode network.
[09:44] <ubuntu_> shall i download the kubuntu dvd?
[09:44] <K-Ryan> ax1s: Just bored and thought of it =P
[09:44] <glasst> ax1s; so you are saying that the portal would allow access to the sd card on the windows side
[09:47] <fdoving> ubuntu_: the cd is enough. you can install the extra programs from teh internet after the OS install if you want to.
[09:47] <runpain2> gona try beryl on my mepis 6.0
[09:47] <ubuntu_> ah ok cool
[09:47] <runpain2> gota find out the specs though
[09:47] <ubuntu_> i would like to keep my windows alive. can i install kubuntu without any problems?
[09:47] <K-Ryan> Yup
[09:47] <K-Ryan> Dual boot
[09:47] <runpain2> yup
[09:47] <ubuntu_> ya
[09:48] <BluesKaj> is there a linux installer for VMware ?
[09:48] <K-Ryan> It's what I do
[09:48] <runpain2> metoo kr
[09:48] <runpain2> on my lap top and desktop
[09:48] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Huh?  Lots of people running linux in vmware (and vmware in linux).
[09:49] <ax1s_> I disconnected :(
[09:49] <BluesKaj> all i get is VMware .exe that tries to install under wine and then it fails
[09:49] <ax1s_> ubuntu_: did you check that looking glass video?
[09:49] <K-Ryan> People running linux in vmware in linux?
[09:49] <ax1s_> BluesKaj: Sec
[09:49] <ubuntu_> ya its great
[09:49] <ubuntu_> is this beryl?
[09:49] <ax1s_> i run vmware to test out different linux distributions
[09:49] <lebies> hey all, can someone pls help me get compiz running on kubuntu feisty. error running script is "Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support" ?
[09:49] <ax1s_> well different os's altogether
[09:49] <ax1s_> lebies: ATI ?
[09:49] <marko_> how do i load subtitles in kaffeine?
[09:50] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: Yeah, well, you could run say Fedora under Debian that way.
[09:50] <lebies> i think i have everything else (drivers etc) running properly
[09:50] <K-Ryan> lebies: You'll be able to get better help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:50] <lebies> yep
[09:50] <marko_> please help:/
[09:50] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: I'm just teasing =P
[09:50] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: #vmware
[09:50] <K-Ryan> marko_: We can't help if we don't know the problem
[09:50] <K-Ryan> Oh, nevermind
[09:50] <marko_> lol:>
[09:50] <ax1s_> BluesKaj: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[09:50] <lebies> ax1s_: yes, X1950
[09:50] <marko_> well
[09:50] <marko_> do you know ?
[09:50] <ubuntu_> ax1s is the youtube video showing beryl?
[09:50] <K-Ryan> subtitles in kaffeine? No idea
[09:50] <K-Ryan> !subtitles
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subtitles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <ax1s_> lebies:  uhm, do you know if you have directx working?  glxinfo | grep direct
[09:51] <K-Ryan> !kaffeine
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <K-Ryan> !info kaffeine
[09:51] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB
[09:51] <marko_> oh ok then:>
[09:51] <lebies> K-Ryan: [blush :( thats where i thought i type  - hehe
[09:51] <K-Ryan> marko_ Stick around, someone might know
[09:51] <K-Ryan> lebies: It's ok, just letting you know
[09:51] <jhutchins> marko_: mplayer and vlc just work.  Kaffeine?  Maybe, maybe not.
[09:51] <MrLeavy17> sup
[09:51] <MrLeavy17> http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=hai2u <-- Make a quick $6 on your paypal account
[09:52] <marko_> jhutchins, i know cause there are options for subtitles in kaffeine
[09:52] <ax1s_> marko_:
[09:52] <ax1s_> 9. Can i play my avi files with a external subtitle file?
[09:52] <ax1s_> Yes. Subtitle files with sub, smi, srt, asc, ssa or txt extensions will be autoloaded. Use the playlist context-menu to add files manually. During playback you can change the used file in the Player|Subtitles-menu.
[09:52] <marko_> but i can't find the option
[09:52] <marko_> to load subtitles
[09:52] <K-Ryan> Too bad I don't have a paypal account =(
[09:52] <jhutchins> paypal is evil.
[09:52] <K-Ryan> ?
[09:53] <ubuntu_> ax1s_ is the youtube video showing beryl?
[09:53] <runpain2> What live cd has Beryl 0.2.1 on it
[09:53] <ax1s_> marko_:  Do they not auto load if they are in the same folder as the movie file?
[09:53] <jhutchins> You have to give them total access to your bank account, username and password.
[09:53] <marko_> no
[09:53] <marko_> then another question
[09:53] <marko_> how do i delay subtitles in
[09:53] <marko_> vlc?
[09:53] <blubbyblub> hello
[09:53] <runpain2> does any one know
[09:53] <blubbyblub> how can i watch dvb-s on ubuntu?
[09:53] <K-Ryan> runpain2: I don't think any do because using it requires setting up your graphics card.
[09:53] <blubbyblub> better kubuntu
[09:53] <K-Ryan> !dvd
[09:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:53] <K-Ryan> Start there =P
[09:54] <jhutchins> runpain2: Beryl was not stable enough when the live CD's were produced, nor would it probably fit on one.  Not sure it's stable enough now.
[09:54] <blubbyblub> hi k-ryan
[09:54] <runpain2> ohohoh
[09:54] <blubbyblub> is it possible to view a dvb-s stream on kubuntu
[09:54] <ubuntu_> is there a taskmanager at kubuntu like at windows?
[09:54] <blubbyblub> @ ubuntu
[09:54] <blubbyblub> ps -aux
[09:54] <glasst> ax1s_; did you find other link or can you suggest where i might look; was it in forum of ubuntu
[09:54] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Ctrl-Esc
[09:54] <runpain2> some said on a mepis fourm there is one
[09:54] <blubbyblub> | grep ""
[09:54] <dale> hello
[09:55] <blubbyblub> hi jhutchins
[09:55] <ax1s_> glasst: I did, you are SOOL. your hardware is not supported in linux yet. there is a waiting list for ppl trying to get the code released
[09:55] <ax1s_> glasst: that initial link COULD work tho
[09:55] <blubbyblub> is it possible to view dvb-s?
[09:55] <runpain2> DIGG does
[09:55] <glasst> ax1s_; thanks
[09:55] <ubuntu_> thx for your help
[09:55] <jhutchins> blubbyblub: What's a dvb-s?
[09:55] <blubbyblub> ..
[09:56] <blubbyblub> @ jhutchins
[09:56] <blubbyblub> digital video broadcast satellit
[09:56] <ax1s_> marko_:  control-h and control-j
[09:56] <blubbyblub> ?
[09:56] <ubuntu_> im installing beryl with adept manager
[09:56] <runpain2> Digg has Beryl on it
[09:56] <ubuntu_> am i able to use it with live cd?
[09:56] <ax1s_> marko_:  for more hotkey info go to  Settings/Preference/Hotkeys
[09:56] <jhutchins> blubbyblub: Yes.
[09:56] <ubuntu_> or no way?
[09:56] <blubbyblub> thanks,
[09:56] <ax1s_> marko_: You can also click on Advanced (bottom right) for more hotkeys
[09:57] <blubbyblub> but my question was, if its possible to recieve
[09:57] <blubbyblub> and watch
[09:57] <jhutchins> http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_7746.html
[09:57] <marko_> thankls
[09:57] <marko_> bbl now
[09:57] <blubbyblub> ,9
[09:57] <marko_> gonna watch jay and silent bob xD
[09:57] <blubbyblub> would be nice,
[09:57] <jhutchins> blubbyblub: Requires hardware.
[09:57] <blubbyblub> if u would hepl me
[09:57] <blubbyblub> ;)
[09:57] <ax1s_> marko_:  yuh
[09:57] <blubbyblub> thx,
[09:57] <blubbyblub> hardware is here
[09:57] <blubbyblub> ;)
[09:57] <blubbyblub> hey comeone whippy speaks ;)
[09:57] <runpain2> err gota find the cd download for digg
[09:58] <blubbyblub> ;)
[09:58] <blubbyblub> i got now fc-6
[09:58] <jhutchins> blubbyblub: mythTV apparently works with it, so does linuxVDR.
[09:58] <blubbyblub> gonna burn it tonight
[09:58] <blubbyblub> and trying also RHLE
[09:58] <blubbyblub> ;)
[09:58] <ax1s_> mmm myth tv
[09:58] <ubuntu_> how do i use beryl?
[09:58] <ax1s_> hahaha
[09:58] <blubbyblub> yo mean linvdr? tried to install it
[09:58] <ubuntu_> need to reboot? (live cd)
[09:58] <ax1s_> that is a good question
[09:58] <blubbyblub> but it wasnt as fine...
[09:59] <ax1s_> ubuntu: if you reboot you lose what you installed
[09:59] <blubbyblub> going to search for mythtv
[09:59] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: If you have beryl working on a live CD you know more than we do.
[09:59] <ax1s_> blubbyblub: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=mythtv%20themes&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
[09:59] <jhutchins> blubbyblub: mediabuntu might be helpful.
[09:59] <ax1s_> blubbyblub: what kinda dvb-s device do you have
[10:00] <Phoenixfeuer> hi everyone
[10:00] <ax1s_> blubbyblub: make/model on your DVB-S card ?
[10:00] <ax1s_> hi Phoenixfeuer
[10:01] <runpain2> still looking for download
[10:01] <Phoenixfeuer> does anyone have a binary of videolan 0.8.6c?
[10:01] <ax1s_> runpain2: of what
[10:01] <runpain2> Digg
[10:01] <Phoenixfeuer> dapper binary :)
[10:01] <Phoenixfeuer> the dapper one in the repos is quite old and does not support wmv9 (wmv3) playback
[10:02] <ax1s_> Phoenixfeuer: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5_i386.deb&md5sum=20c3ac18c080365c21cbcf5adf1d6327&arch=i386&type=main
[10:03] <Phoenixfeuer> does de debian package work out of the box?
[10:03] <blubbyblub_back> ...back
[10:03] <blubbyblub_back> @j the staller is here
[10:04] <blubbyblub_back> it seems to be really complicated with myth
[10:04] <blubbyblub_back> group myth ?
[10:04] <blubbyblub_back> how should i make that?
[10:04] <blubbyblub_back> addgroup?
[10:04] <ax1s_> Phoenixfeuer: Why do you need c?
[10:04] <ax1s_> Phoenixfeuer:  Oh
[10:05] <ax1s_> Phoenixfeuer: I don't see why you could just grab the new vlc deb
[10:05] <blubbyblub_back> @jhutchins....
[10:05] <ax1s_> and install it manually .. it should say if it will need something
[10:05] <blubbyblub_back> i have only two groups in my list?
[10:05] <blubbyblub_back> should i create a group myth?
[10:05] <jhutchins> blubbyblub_back: No clue.  Don't have the hardware.  Try #mythtv-users (NOT #mythtv).
[10:06] <Phoenixfeuer> well the latest binary avaiable for dapper seems to be 0.8.6a
[10:06] <runpain2> gota go sure was fun
[10:06] <Phoenixfeuer> the edgy one won't work will it?
[10:07] <blubbyblub_back> @jhutchins i know you are a professional...
[10:07] <blubbyblub_back> but do i really need a backend ;)
[10:07] <blubbyblub_back> hey
[10:07] <blubbyblub_back> come on...
[10:07] <blubbyblub_back> ;)
[10:07] <blubbyblub_back> oh my god
[10:07] <Phoenixfeuer> sorry, im still fairly new to linux, otherwise I would've compiled the source myself :)
[10:07] <binks> it says on kaffeine site that the lastest build is 0.8.4 but feisty repo only has 0.8.3 but the kaffeine site says it should be 0.8.4 should i no of another repo
[10:08] <marko_> i will freaking kill myself ok now here's the problem
[10:08] <blubbyblub_back> if you would give me pm acces ;)
[10:08] <ax1s_> sec
[10:08] <blubbyblub_back> would be right, ;)
[10:08] <ax1s_> sorry disconnected
[10:08] <marko_> in kaffeine i don't know how to load subtitles! in vlc when  i load them they are all big and stuff weird...! in mplayer i can't load the movie (it's in .avi format)
[10:08] <marko_> so what should i do?!:(
[10:08] <ax1s_> sorry disconnected
[10:08] <amnesiac_> phoenixfeuer what are you try 2 install??
[10:10] <marko_> guys what should i do:/
[10:10] <jhutchins> :v kaffeine
[10:10] <marko_> what?
[10:10] <jhutchins> !info kaffeine
[10:10] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB
[10:10] <amnesiac_> marko: install the gstreamer libs in adept gstreamer fluendo and demux and all the rest off the sh--t
[10:10] <marko_> why should i do that?
[10:10] <florian> Hello!
[10:11] <marko_> does really no one know how to load the freaking subtitles in the fuck*ng kaffeine
[10:11] <marko_> i had no problems with kaffeine yet
[10:11] <Phoenixfeuer> amnesiac_: I'm trying to install the latest videolan player
[10:11] <marko_> just don't know how to load subtitles
[10:11] <Phoenixfeuer> 0.8.6c
[10:11] <jhutchins> marko_: I can't even get kaffeine to play regular audio/video.
[10:11] <marko_> i can
[10:11] <marko_> i watched everything with it
[10:11] <Phoenixfeuer> I'm using dapper, therefore the latest one is of course not in the repositories
[10:11] <jlund> marko_: hold on and I will try some things
[10:11] <jhutchins> Phoenixfeuer: Have you considered upgrading?
[10:12] <jhutchins> marko_: You need kaffeine specific help, I suggest you try the mailing list or forums or whatever they have for kaffeine.
[10:12] <marko_> yeah but i want to watch the movie now.../
[10:12] <Phoenixfeuer> dont know about upgrading, last time I've tried doing a full upgrade from edgy to dapper my whole system broke
[10:12] <amnesiac_> phoenixfeuer myth will work with a kernel 2.6.18-28
[10:12] <marko_> jlund, ok
[10:12] <jhutchins> #kaffeine
[10:12] <florian> I am using kubuntu 7.10. .... I automatix2 already available for the ubuntu beta?
[10:13] <ax1s> my wifi does not love me
[10:13] <jhutchins> !automatix
[10:13] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:13] <jhutchins> florian: 7.1 isn't beta any more.
[10:13] <amnesiac_> ax1s love hurts is it?
[10:14] <ax1s> :)
[10:14] <ax1s> dreams of a/b/g ;] 
[10:14] <amnesiac_> what wifi ??? a1xs
[10:14] <florian> If not, which repository should I use for adobe reader, macromedia
[10:14] <Phoenixfeuer> mplayer works OK with the latest w32codecs but I'm in need of videolans streaming capabilities
[10:14] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  just my shiddy lil netgear adapter flaking out .. everything else is gold..  wrt54gl/dd-wrt sp3
[10:15] <jhutchins> florian: try kpdf or xpdf
[10:15] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  the ndiswrapper method worked nicer then the new built in .. :(   not sure how to unload it and do it the old way
[10:15] <amnesiac_> netgear is supported by madwifi is it? i can be wrong
[10:15] <ax1s> and wait a sec..    BluesKaj: you want to play wmv9 ?  i play wmv9 all the time and i don't use any special version of vlc.. i use kaffeine
[10:15] <amnesiac_> mesg 2 ax1s
[10:16] <jhutchins> ndiswrapper, and it's broken in current kernels iirc.
[10:16] <ax1s> amnesiac_: It's this netgear usb thing .. wg111v2
[10:16] <amnesiac_> yes ax1s with a dongle right??$
[10:16] <ax1s> was workingm uch better with ndiswrapper and proprietary driver.. vs this built in rtl8187 or whatever driver
[10:17] <BluesKaj> ax1s, no thx , i use amarok , and rarely used wmp even when i ran windows
[10:17] <Phoenixfeuer> ax1s: kaffeine probably hasn't got problems playing wmv9 files but then it cannot act as a streaming server for my home network can it?
[10:17] <Phoenixfeuer> otherwise i might consider switching :)
[10:17] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  nah just the usb thing  http://213.186.44.139/netgear/fr/images/wireless/photos/wg111v2.jpg
[10:17] <jhutchins> Phoenixfeuer: I thought there was a way to stream mplayer...
[10:17] <amnesiac_> ah ok ax1s
[10:18] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  i use amarok too, i'm talking about video files, wmv9 HD
[10:18] <ax1s> i heard amarok has video support? that would be uber nice
[10:18] <BluesKaj> ok, well i run kaffeine for avi files
[10:18] <jhutchins> ax1s: Not that I've heard.
[10:18] <amnesiac_> gonna look 2 the link of ax1s 2 find help see ya later
[10:19] <jlund> marko_: http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=faq#question9
[10:19] <Phoenixfeuer> jhutchins: thing is, i need to stream to my xbox's xbox media center which itself uses a version of mplayer and plays the files out of sync
[10:19] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  no worries, i've decided not to play nexuiz with wifi anymore ;D
[10:20] <BluesKaj> ax1s, vmware-install.pl: command not found... strange
[10:20] <Phoenixfeuer> by streaming them via vlc to my xbox should work because the latest version apparently supports wmv9
[10:21] <ax1s> Phoenixfeuer:  I play wmv9 HD codecs in kaffeine
[10:21] <Phoenixfeuer> yeah i know but i need to stream wmv9 the way videolan does :)
[10:21] <va170542> test
[10:21] <amnesiac_> hahahha lol ax1s
[10:21] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  ? what it works .. mplayer is best
[10:21] <ax1s> amnesiac_: vlc doesn't work for me at all
[10:22] <va170542> test from munic
[10:22] <ax1s> va170542: That is a confirm.
[10:22] <Noldoaran> sudo isn't asking me for a password anymore, how do I chane it back?
[10:22] <Noldoaran> s/chane/change
[10:22] <amnesiac_> test succes va170542
[10:23] <amnesiac_> i use vlc for gp3 and mov files
[10:23] <ax1s> Noldoaran: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_disable_root_user_account
[10:23] <jlund> Noldoaran: This is normal. There is a 15 minute window where commands as sudo will not prompt for a password. It would be annoying if you had to type it every single time.
[10:23] <amnesiac_> kaffeine i use for avi and mpeg
[10:23] <florian> jhutchins: did I miss anything? 7.10 (gutsy) is beta ... isn't ist?
[10:23] <Phoenixfeuer> so can kaffeine stream then?
[10:23] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  i use kaffeine for everything except the few wmv9 that need mplayer
[10:23] <jhutchins> florian: Not for several months now.
[10:23] <jhutchins> florian: Oh, wait....
[10:23] <Noldoaran> jlund: no it's not asking me the first time, it's been this way for a few days
[10:23] <Phoenixfeuer> you guys actually are confusing me :)
[10:24] <jhutchins> florian: Yeah, 7.1 is gutsy, is beta.  Feisty's what, 7.04?
[10:24] <jlund> Noldoaran: When did it start?
[10:24] <Noldoaran> don't remember
[10:24] <amnesiac_> i cant get the wmv9 sh--it going on run with the kaffeine
[10:24] <jlund> Noldoaran: You can't think of any programs that you installed?
[10:24] <ax1s> gutsy gibbo is 7.10
[10:24] <amnesiac_> wich c0dec i need??
[10:25] <jhutchins> !mp3 > amnesiac_
[10:25] <Noldoaran> bbs
[10:25] <ax1s> amnesiac_:  uhmm.. actually i lied.. everything but wmv9 works in kaffeine..  mplayer for wmv9
[10:25] <ax1s> but i had to select different codec family to handle wmv9 properly
[10:25] <ax1s> VLC/Preferences/Codecs   then select win32 video
[10:25] <ax1s> you can leave audio
[10:26] <ax1s> er
[10:26] <ax1s> MPLAYER/preference/codecs
[10:26] <ax1s> UHG
[10:26] <ax1s> <-- Tired .. muh bad
[10:26] <jlund> Noldoaran: What was the full package name for "bbs"
[10:26] <ax1s> i'm lovin the wmv9 samples, need more!! .. also a couple HD trailers... mmm 1080p
[10:26] <t_maus> hi guys
[10:27] <florian> I use kubuntu (7.10) how could I install all ubuntu stuff? (gnome desktop and all apps, that came with a normal ubuntu istallation?
[10:27] <ax1s> florian: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <florian> ax1s: thanks ...
[10:27] <t_maus> does ANYBODY know a very good streaming server
[10:28] <sylvisj>  what should I use as a FS when trying to mount a fat32 drive?
[10:28] <ax1s> t_maus: for audio gnump3d , for video.. not sure
[10:28] <t_maus> im searching for a video streamer
[10:28] <amnesiac_> cybergods amnesiac is going to work ,,,al ya hackers and whizkids you have my blessings
[10:28] <ax1s> t_maus: I got gnump3d to stream videos over LAN fine, but over the net is another story.. didn't figure out transcoding ;] 
[10:28] <amnesiac_> hahahahaha lol
[10:28] <ax1s> lol
[10:28] <t_maus> LAN is very goood
[10:28] <ax1s> amnesiac_: masalik muh brotha
[10:29] <t_maus> which codecs did it support
[10:29] <ax1s> t_mause sudo apt-get install gnump3d
[10:29] <amnesiac_> see ya
[10:29] <Phoenixfeuer> hmm gnump3d?
[10:29] <t_maus> si
[10:29] <ax1s> mmmnmnmn gnump3d
[10:29] <t_maus> mpeg4 ? mov
[10:29] <Phoenixfeuer> does it support wmv9?
[10:29] <Phoenixfeuer> :)
[10:29] <t_maus> i need it also for windows pcs
[10:30] <ax1s> works on all versions: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/28/how-to-setup-gnump3d-for-a-streaming-media-server-ubuntu-510-6061-610/
[10:30] <ax1s> Phoenixfeuer: Will stream whatever MIME type you specify
[10:30] <ax1s> Phoenixfeuer: Up to the stream receiver to have a proper codec
[10:30] <Phoenixfeuer> which streaming protocol does it use?
[10:30] <ax1s> Phoenixfeuer: like.. raw
[10:30] <ax1s> Phoenixfeuer: You enable the mime type, and ..  i dunno.. *checks
[10:30] <Phoenixfeuer> ok
[10:32] <ax1s> okayi can't find a reference, but i remember how to sorta, sec
[10:33] <boxman> hey everybody
[10:34] <Noldoaran> jlund: sorry, I'm back. I installed a kernel that I compiled, then removed it because it didn't work..
[10:34] <ax1s> Phoenixfeuer: http://n1nj4.dnsdojo.org/mime.types
[10:34] <Phoenixfeuer> k cool
[10:34] <ax1s> look at the bottom of the list.. it does more then a/v
[10:34] <t_maus> what is with helix streaming server
[10:35] <ax1s> t_maus: realmedia garbagio
[10:35] <t_maus> but it is not bad
[10:35] <ax1s> t_maus: Helix is opensource real media
[10:35] <ax1s> oh
[10:35] <ax1s> t_maus: does it transcode?
[10:35] <t_maus> think so
[10:35] <ax1s> also
[10:35] <ax1s> 30 days free trial
[10:35] <t_maus> 2 options
[10:36] <ax1s> oh, simple 5-stream free
[10:36] <ax1s> nice
[10:36] <t_maus> 1. free version 2. buisens version
[10:36] <eagles0513875> what u trying to transcode
[10:36] <t_maus> right
[10:36] <Noldoaran> where is the sudoers file?
[10:36] <eagles0513875> u mean something from mp3 to flac for instance
[10:36] <ax1s> t_maus: I'm downloading it right now to play with ;] 
[10:36] <ax1s> Noldoaran: didn't i already give you a fix
[10:36] <t_maus> "/etc/sudoers
[10:36] <eagles0513875> ax1s: also for transcoding try soundkonverter
[10:37] <ax1s> Noldoaran: sudo passwd -l root
[10:37] <ax1s> eagles0513875:  transcoding video
[10:37] <Noldoaran> ok
[10:37] <vzduch> t_maus: tried VLS?
[10:37] <eagles0513875> AHHHHHHHH sry for caps
[10:37] <eagles0513875> i remember finding something
[10:37] <eagles0513875> to convert stuff to avis
[10:37] <ax1s> nah,  we wanna stream any type of avi
[10:38] <t_maus> exactly
[10:38] <ax1s> and set the encoding on it so it's playable over our 1mbit up connection
[10:38] <ax1s> video i should say
[10:38] <ax1s> this helix server could be interesting
[10:38] <ax1s> i mean, i've hated real media for ever, but if they let me broadcast my own stuff
[10:39] <vzduch> !info idjc
[10:39] <ubotu> idjc: graphical shoutcast/icecast client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.9-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 409 kB, installed size 1164 kB
[10:39] <ax1s> with  a  user browsable playlist.. that would be awesome
[10:39] <ax1s> vzduch:  this will transcode video/
[10:39] <BluesKaj> bah, vmware won't run or install..too many patches and screwups...it's not worth the trouble
[10:39] <vzduch> ax1s: I guess not.. I was looking for something for audio streaming
[10:39] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  joint channle BluesKaj
[10:40] <ax1s> BluesKaj: I can help you get vmware running in 2 minutes
[10:40] <vzduch> !info vls
[10:40] <ubotu> vls: lightweight MPEG and DVD video streaming server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4+cvs20031028-6 (feisty), package size 376 kB, installed size 1032 kB
[10:40] <BluesKaj> waste of time ax1s ...i prolly won't use it much anyway ...i have most stuff working on linux that i used to do on windows anyway
[10:41] <BluesKaj> I already dumped it
[10:41] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  you could get an sdcard to usb converter for like 5 bucks ;D
[10:41] <BluesKaj> ax1s, >??
[10:41] <marko>  does someone know how do i make subtitles in kaffeine bigger? :DD
[10:42] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  you wer egtting vmware  running to get your sd card going, right?
[10:42] <vzduch> ax1s: do you think it feasible to run VMware on a 900 MHz Athlon?
[10:42] <t_maus> i dont see any of my files in gnump3d
[10:43] <BluesKaj> nope, my sndcard is fine .. runinig perfectly well ...you're thinking of some one else perhaps
[10:44] <BluesKaj> we were discussing running music files on windows with vmware with another person
[10:44] <ax1s> what would you want vmware for
[10:44] <ax1s> for music
[10:45] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  I have no idea what you want to do
[10:45] <BluesKaj> i wanted to try it out is all, mainly :)
[10:45] <ax1s> hahaha
[10:46] <eagles0513875> if anyone is interested in audo multimedia or 3danimation there is a version of ubuntu just for u lol
[10:46] <eagles0513875> ubuntustudios.org
[10:47] <eagles0513875> www.ubuntustudio.org
[10:47] <ax1s> marko: File/Open File, click the  USE SUBTITLE FILE,  ADVanced settings/ and under Relative font it says Normal - you can change it to large or larger
[10:47] <marko> i have it
[10:47] <ax1s> oh i see
[10:47] <ax1s> word
[10:47] <marko> already thanks anyway:D
[10:47] <eagles0513875> marko what is it like
[10:47] <ax1s> marko: ;] 
[10:47] <marko> eagles0513875, what?
[10:47] <eagles0513875> ubuntu studio
[10:48] <marko> ubuntu studio?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> ax1s,, so i can talk my daughter (a total computer newb)  thru her windows probs on her new lappy , without ahving to go the wifes pc to emulate what she's trying to do
[10:48] <eagles0513875> marko: ya
[10:48] <marko> wtf is that:D
[10:48] <eagles0513875> pm me if u have identified urself
[10:48] <eagles0513875> u said u had it
[10:48] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  Oh word..   so you want to talk over the phone? skype it up!
[10:48] <marko> i don't have it
[10:48] <marko> :s
[10:48] <ax1s> :(
[10:49] <eagles0513875> oh go to ubunutustudio.org and take a look at the homepg
[10:49] <ax1s> eagles0513875:  it's nice.. but GIMP ?
[10:49] <eagles0513875> ? how so
[10:49] <marko> why should i have it?
[10:49] <ax1s> i'm saying.. the webpage is nice
[10:49] <ax1s> ;] 
[10:49] <ax1s> but how is gimp good for graphix
[10:50] <BluesKaj> well ax1s , I'm here in northern ontario and daughter is in toronto ... i can't skype her laptop from here :)
[10:50] <psygrass> hi.. i am trying to compile and install dekorator; i downloaded Kdevelop, Kdevelop3.dev, build-essential and checkinstall packages... but when i type (make)  in the terminal i get errors and can't install it... please i need to know what libraries still missing? i couldn't find an answer for this on the net :-)
[10:50] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  Why not?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> she can barely get online , let alone install skype
[10:50] <ax1s> BluesKaj: Ahhh
[10:51] <ax1s> BluesKaj: So you are trying to get audio to work with linux msn client?
[10:51] <BluesKaj> :)
[10:51] <ax1s> skype works out of the box
[10:52] <ax1s> on windows nawyays
[10:52] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:52] <ax1s> ;D
[10:52] <eagles0513875> u forget lol
[10:52] <eagles0513875> we dont use windows here lol let alone the dreaded word
[10:52] <ax1s> hahah.. find an msn client for linux with audio/video native support
[10:52] <BluesKaj> no ax1s that was another guy who was asking about running wm files from his ntfs partiton and some mentiom=ned vmware and i just commented that i couldn't get vmware installed ...that's it
[10:52] <ax1s> not this plugin with google this and SIPS that
[10:52] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  Ahhhhhhhh
[10:52] <ax1s> hahahha
[10:53] <eagles0513875> u couldnt BluesKaj
[10:53] <eagles0513875> cuz that is what im trying to install
[10:53] <ax1s> right now?
[10:53] <ax1s> i can walk you through it
[10:53] <ax1s> in like
[10:53] <ax1s> 5 minutes
[10:53] <ax1s> join ivmu
[10:53] <eagles0513875> ?
[10:53] <eagles0513875> is that the channel u want me in ax1s
[10:53] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, i'm not gonna try again today ...i really don't need it ...it's too much of a pain to install
[10:53] <ax1s> type /j ivmu
[10:54] <ax1s> ya
[10:54] <eagles0513875> lol i do lol cuz im wanting to test out way to many things
[10:54] <eagles0513875> lol like ubuntustudio and fedora7
[10:54] <BluesKaj> I'll lurk , ax1s
[10:54] <ax1s> there is nothing, yet
[10:55] <ax1s> i thought skype was gonna bust it out, but they slacked.. google might bring it on tho
[10:55] <ax1s> *shrug
[11:00] <kamui> anyone have a GMA900?
[11:00] <kamui> I need to set up dual displays with the GMA900
[11:00] <kamui> need the know how
[11:01] <K-Ryan> I got this command right, right?
[11:01] <K-Ryan> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[11:03] <ubuntu> buenas tardes
[11:03] <K-Ryan> hola
[11:05] <danw99> anyone help me with an initramfs problem??
[11:06] <fokosa> server emupedia.com #antrix
[11:06] <fokosa> ups
[11:06] <fokosa> :D
[11:07] <virusurbano> :d
[11:07] <virusurbano> :D
[11:09] <virusurbano> alguno a probado gambas?
[11:11] <K-Ryan> !es
[11:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:11] <K-Ryan> !pt
[11:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:13] <maverick> hey
[11:13] <Solifugus> How do you config after physically installing a second hard disk?
[11:13] <skullAttack> lo all
[11:13] <virusurbano> whats ups
[11:13] <Solifugus> the new disk wasn't autodetected
[11:14] <skullAttack> solifugus - you need to add the disk to fstab
[11:14] <maverick> was wondering how can i add program to kubuntu's startup? i use to do it but i forgot how..i have my script i just need to know where to put it?!!
[11:14] <skullAttack> if you consult with the ubuntu wiki there will be an article there
[11:15] <Solifugus> skullAttack: Normally that's what I'd do.. but I don't understand that UUID=,,,, type format it uses
[11:15] <Solifugus> skullAttack: I am used to /dev/sdb1 .... type format
[11:15] <K-Ryan> Solifugus: so you use that
[11:15] <K-Ryan> that's what i was told to do and it worked for me
[11:16] <Solifugus> but isn't there an automatic way??  one would think so..
[11:16] <K-Ryan> device mount-point etc. etc.
[11:16] <K-Ryan> sudo mount -a
[11:16] <K-Ryan> adding the devices automatically, dunno
[11:16] <skullAttack> i dont think the UUID is nescessary
[11:17] <skullAttack> if it is, you could copy it from your existing disk, so long as you want its permissions to be the same
[11:17] <Solifugus> I don't have a clue what the UUID is..
[11:18] <skullAttack> ah yea sorry im being a clown
[11:18] <skullAttack> i dont think it is nescessary
[11:19] <skullAttack> i might be wrong
[11:19] <skullAttack> try it, if you havent done so already
[11:24] <Solifugus> K-Ryan: So what fs type do you put for ntfs ??
[11:24] <K-Ryan> ntfs
[11:24] <K-Ryan> i think
[11:25] <Solifugus> not working
[11:25] <TeraDyne> !ntfs
[11:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:27] <skullAttack> yeah it is ntfs
[11:27] <skullAttack> fat32 is vfat
[11:28] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to make Google Desktop open with Firefox instead of Konqueror?
[11:28] <skullAttack> a sample of my fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:28] <skullAttack> and a 1 at the end
[11:29] <skullAttack> (oh, its there. damn my eyes are borked)
[11:30] <Solifugus> TeraDyne: thanks.. that diskmounter thingy worked perfectly...
[11:31] <skullAttack> !ntfs
[11:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:33] <skullAttack> thats a nice script
[11:33] <skullAttack> i still like doing it the old way ;)
[11:39] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I can extract the contents of an iso?
[11:39] <Mr_Sonoma> quick question, what package do i need to install to play .avi and .wmv in kaffine?
[11:39] <skullAttack> libxine-extracodecs
[11:39] <skullAttack> i think
[11:40] <skullAttack> or libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:40] <Mr_Sonoma> ok will try it thanks
[11:40] <skullAttack> hell, install both
[11:40] <skullAttack> ;) np
[11:40] <crazyrobot> or w32codecs or there is a package on the mplayer website.
[11:40] <skullAttack> ya
[11:40] <crazyrobot> do a search for mediabuntu repository and add it.
[11:42] <vzduch> K-Ryan: mkdir ~/tmp/iso (or another dir wherever you want) && sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile.iso ~/tmp/iso
[11:42] <Mr_Sonoma> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[11:42] <vzduch> then browse
[11:43] <crazyrobot> !wmv
[11:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <K-Ryan> vzduch: ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
[11:44] <vzduch> hmm
[11:44] <K-Ryan> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 dsl-3.4.iso /home/ubuntu/Desktop/New\ Folder/
[11:45] <crazyrobot> try switching the loop like 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop dsl-3.4.iso /home/ubuntu/Desktop/New\ Folder/'
[11:46] <K-Ryan> Same error
[11:46] <vzduch> K-Ryan: just tried w/ a local iso, no problem here
[11:47] <K-Ryan> =*(
[11:47] <K-Ryan> Maybe it's because I'm on the live cd?
[11:47] <vzduch> could be.. I've heard of the strangest errors when working w/ the live CD
[11:50] <frojnd> Is there any software fo flash DVDs CDs ??
[11:50] <Mr_Sonoma> ok got it...thanks yall...
[12:05] <HyperCity> after starting a tomcat server i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28876/ (i asume the server has started right) but when i'm tring to conect to http://localhost:8080/ i get page not found , what should i do now?
[12:08] <trakinas> hey there folks!! I need to compress a folder (57MB +/-) to =< a 50MB. gzip and bzip does not do the job, so as 7zip (=( ) . rar does work, but it screws up special characters and gives me header error.
[12:09] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to how to configure superkaramba widgets?
[12:10] <shane2peru> I right click and the configure is greyed out :)
[12:11] <trakinas> shane2peru: try looking at widgets own Readme. imho, superkaramba is reaaallyyyyy heavy
[12:12] <shane2peru> is karamba better ?
[12:12] <shane2peru> trakinas: where do I find the Readme?
[12:13] <shane2peru> trakinas: do you recommend another one?  I love those little widgets.
[12:13] <shane2peru> !kde
[12:13] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.