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pimp31415terminal server client came up black and on rdp went black but both were solved by minimizing and unminimizing said window - redraw issue?12:32
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ShackJackHi all - my nm-applet always prompts me for my wireless passphrase when booting up my notebook - despite selecting "always allow"... is there a way to have it remember the wireless password immediately or is this a known glitch...12:56
gnomefreakShackJack: n-m and gnome-keyring(i think thats the app) both are having issues atm01:18
ShackJackgnomefreak: O.K. I figured as much... At least I got my compiz fusion XGL working again... Was starting to have eye-candy withdrawl...01:19
ShackJackgnomefreak: My nm-applet is a little flakey about finding networks...01:19
gnomefreakShackJack: n-m since 2nd to last update wont log me or alot of others onto internet you have to disable networking than enable it again its know n to the new maintainer of n-m01:20
gnomefreakit has toehr issues01:21
gnomefreakother01:21
pimp31415ha and now for no reason i can maximize my terminals just fine :D01:21
ShackJackgnomefreak: Mine will get it on a fresh reboot (Intel Card), but sometimes flakey if switching networks or restarting dbus or dropping to init 1, etc... 'Sno biggie... I knew what I was in for upgrading to Gutsy so early on... Otherwise it's working really great...01:22
pimp31415gnomefreak, what are the implications of taking that network manager out entirely?01:22
gnomefreakpimp31415: not a good idea IMHO01:22
pimp31415hehe ShackJack pretty impressive for an rc2 eh01:22
pimp31415gnomefreak, eh?01:22
ShackJackpimp31415: I'll say...01:22
pimp31415also why cant it come back when i kill the panel =/01:22
gnomefreakpimp31415: we had more issues in whatever we were using prior01:23
pimp31415gah fair-enough01:23
pimp31415well w/e we are approaching feisty's release stability >_>01:23
gnomefreakdamn : now what01:23
pimp31415?? nothing here!01:23
gnomefreakLP is having issues01:25
ShackJackAnyone else having issues with the libcurlX-gnutls packages (being kept back/dependencies, etc...)?01:26
MugginsMI was having libcurl issues yesterday, but haven't tried since then01:26
crimsunman.01:26
gnomefreakShackJack: read the topic01:26
crimsunI swear people don't read the topic I set.01:26
pimp31415ah ha~ in beryl with terminal server client it makes the screen not draw the guts of the terminal - close tsclient and your back to good to go - kinda gives true transperancy so to speak01:26
gnomefreakcrimsun: they are prompted to read it too01:26
gnomefreakall they have to do is join the channel01:26
MugginsMoh, it's in the scrolled off the screen bit of the topic :)01:26
crimsunok, repeat after me:  I will kindly read the topic.  Thanks!01:27
gnomefreakMugginsM: type /topic01:27
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pimp31415ShackJack, yeah 3 and 4 - what are those for anyway?01:27
ShackJackcrimsun: I do read it the first several times I join the channel.... however because the beginning of the text is always the same its understandable that folks don't read all the way through - figuring it's the same thing... I would suggest putting new info at the start of the topic text and of shortening the topic text...01:28
ShackJack*and/or01:28
ShackJackI will personally try to read it more carefully in the future ;)01:28
crimsunwe've tried that approach.  People still don't read the blathering thing.01:29
pimp31415how about color bomb notices on entry01:29
pimp31415with a whitelist on who doesnt get it01:29
crimsun...or you could just read the fine topic.01:30
pimp31415and can i be in the whitelist please ^^01:30
pimp31415[they they i did i did!!!:P] 01:30
pimp31415and closing tsclient didnt fix my maximized terminal this time01:31
pimp31415gah lol01:31
pimp31415ooooooooo new terminals are good though...01:31
pimp31415o wow - cant drag my windows around at all - ever come across that one?01:34
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DanaGIs there an easy way to make my snd-emu10k1 not break suspend?01:40
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gnomefreakeasy way-use feisty or wait for fix. a bit of a harder way - fix it?01:43
DanaGWell, it's not new to Gutsy, actually.01:45
DanaGI'd need the suspend scripts to eject the card and then remove the module -- but what if programs have a lock on the sound card?01:46
DanaGI guess it's an "eaiser said than done" type of thing.01:46
pimp31415so THATS whats been doing it01:46
pimp31415lol01:46
gnomefreaklol01:46
pimp31415ive been wondering - but i only suspend by accident so w/e01:46
pimp31415XD01:46
DanaGI don't know if it's all of snd-emu10k1 that breaks suspend.01:48
DanaGHmm, I figured something out: now my battery life in Gutsy is almost exactly the same as in Windows.  The exact times are probably 10 minutes from each other.01:49
DanaGI wish there were an elegant way to say a person's name without pinging that person.  Extra spaces works, but it is inelegant.01:55
ShackJackLike Dan*G?01:56
ShackJackpimp314*5... and gnomefre*k01:57
pimp31415mm DanaG how about shift-tabcomplete02:01
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pimp31415or control-tab02:01
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pimp31415just ask the guyz in Xchat if you use it they might make it D:02:02
DanaGI use gaim/pidgin.02:04
DanaGI wonder if it's possible to get DRI on an S3 Savage, at 1024x768, with only 4 megs of video RAM.02:05
DanaGI doubt that's even enough VRAM for double-buffering.02:05
pimp31415what is dri?02:05
pimp31415ah i think i might be running into that kinda too many fullscreen windows open bug with beryl - mm seems third one is black lets try some others02:06
DanaGDirect Rendering something-or-other.02:06
DanaGI don't know what the I stands for.02:06
pimp31415yeah forth one is black02:07
pimp31415gah02:07
DanaGThat savage is in an old laptop nobody really uses anymore.02:07
DanaGMy main laptop has a GeForce Go 7600, but only 128 megs of VRAM.02:08
DanaGLuckily it's only 1440x900 -- because 1680x1050 would probably exceed my available VRAM.02:08
pimp31415http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=3893fa1e5c918f8f66fadcb979d79d55&p=1198600&postcount=1202:14
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pimp31415hey DanaG i think we need to upgrade =/02:14
pimp31415DanaG, did you get the extra effects working at least then?02:14
DanaGOh, which extra effects?02:16
mrsno__pimp31415 is that the 'out of memory' error ?02:16
pimp31415system > preferences > appearance > last tab02:16
pimp31415mrsno__, who knows - i can open non-fullscreened windows with it going i think lemme double check -02:16
pimp31415os[Linux 2.6.22-7-386 - Debian lenny/sid - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )]  | up[12 hours, 37 minutes]  | cpu[AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, 1665.280 MHz (3333.56 bogomips) at 40.0C]  | chipset[VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge]  | video[nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200]  (rev a1) at 1600x1200 (32 bits)]  | opengl[GeForce 6200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! powered by NVIDIA Corporation with driver 2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.31]  | xchat[Version02:16
pimp31415: 2.8.2]  | [sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46] 02:16
mrsno__i got that black windows / out of memory error in latest nvidia-glx-new,  had to use envy to get the 100x series drivers02:17
mrsno__haven't tried desktop-effects/compiz-fusion yet02:17
DanaGI'm using the 3v1n0 repo, because the official was broken last time I tried it.02:17
pimp31415oya i forgot that DanaG sorry - mrsno__ ah02:18
pimp31415i always put the nvidia stuff in manually lol02:18
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pimp31415and i'm using the repo stuff - not even the nvidia.bin02:18
mrsno__yea it happened in nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new02:19
pimp31415well DanaG i think that even with all the new features, for the most part its getting less laggy02:19
DanaGI'm using this:02:19
DanaG[   32.644000]  NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  100.14.11  Wed Jun 13 18:21:22 PDT 200702:19
DanaGHotkey display switching works on my laptop -- but, it doesn't change resolution.02:19
pimp31415mrsno__, i get a different wierd error - sometimes when i type something into xchat it doesnt draw it to the window but instead half rrepeats the line above it that used to be at the bottom - posted a pic above02:19
pimp31415DanaG, how can i find that?02:20
ptn107i dual boot xp/feisty i386 , can i upgrade feisty i386 to amd64 while preserving xp part (as in the way i installed i386)?02:20
DanaGdmesg | grep NVRM02:20
pimp31415edgy / xp / gutsy / fedora / something new to be decided02:20
pimp31415[  192.616000]  NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9631  Thu Nov  9 17:38:10 PST 200602:20
mrsno__ptn107 you can chroot a 64bit installation but yes you can install ubuntu 64 fresh, overwriting the ubuntu 3202:20
pimp31415DanaG, you had to put in manually or with envy or so?02:21
ptn107sweet02:21
pimp31415ptn107, btw if your /home partititon is seperate it will keep all your settings02:21
mrsno__this channel is for gutsy really ptn107 , so if you have any questions please check in #ubuntu02:21
ptn107yeah i have it separate02:21
pimp31415but if your worried about it make a different user on install, and add a user with the same name after you test it so it doesnt bork anything on the offhand and all02:21
pimp31415:)02:21
ptn107o sorry thought i was on ub,. didnt see the +102:22
mrsno__ptn107 nps :-)02:22
pimp31415hehe ptn107 you should make a 6 gig partition and just install gutsy also :302:22
pimp31415just to play@!02:22
ptn107ive already played around in  tribe 202:22
ptn107no complaints yet02:22
mrsno__i sorta missed tribe2, but tried a daily this week02:23
pimp31415ooooooooooo i wonder if my triple buffering is killing me02:23
pimp31415sweet ptn107 try to break it!02:23
mrsno__runs nice booting from a 4gig usb pen with desktop-effects all working with 1 X restart02:23
ptn107i am02:23
DanaGI did my nvidia manually.02:24
DanaGOh yeah, triple-buffering eats VRAM like crazy.02:24
DanaGThat's what it's supposed to do.02:24
DanaGI don't have enough memory bandwidth to comfortably use triple-buffering.02:25
pimp31415oh02:26
DanaGThat's odd: the old laptop dropped from 39% battery to 0% battery.02:26
pimp31415i think i dont need that on then seeing as how my card is on the cheaper end of current stuff - only cost 46 bucks delivered tho from newegg so that was good :>02:26
pimp31415hey DanaG do you know a way offhand btw to turn off all cube stuff and make the desktop flat like gnome default?02:27
DanaGOh, you can use Wall instead.02:28
pimp31415o:02:28
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lymecaIf a user has an Nvidia card *and* they've installed the non-free Nvidia drivers for it, Compiz Fusion should be good to go.02:31
pimp31415lymeca, what about with the nvidia drivers?02:32
lymecaBut what about ATI cards?  XGL won't be in X.Org so how will that work?02:32
pimp31415and do you get 3daccel?02:32
pimp31415gah and im sorry for such a silly question but DanaG where is Wall??02:33
lymecaWith respect to Compiz Fusion being the default wm: Intel video cards with Free drivers are going to be fine, but what if the user has ATI card AND non-free drivers for 3D accel.  How will CF work without XGL?02:33
pimp31415[i did look i promise :P] 02:33
DanaGOh, it's a Desktop Management plugin.02:38
pimp31415o?02:39
pimp31415aah02:39
pimp31415i need to dl more plugins for beryl02:40
DanaGIt's a Fusion plugin.02:42
DanaGOr maybe new-Compiz.02:42
mrsno__lymeca its on the wishlist02:42
mrsno__https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/12293902:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122939 in xserver-xgl "Ship X session files with xserver-xgl" [Wishlist,In progress] 02:43
DanaGWoah, I just set the Savage to use EXA.  It's all psychedelic.02:43
lymecaIn both cases with ATI and Nvidia cards, the proprietary drivers won't be shipping with Gutsy.  So COmpiz Fusion won't be the default wm.  Will it be automated that if the user installs the proprietary drivers for their cards that CF will be enabled?02:44
Tm_Tlymeca: it's just matter of clicking stuff in menu02:45
Tm_Tactually twp things02:45
Tm_T1) install proprietary drivers using tool02:46
lymecaWill there be a new Preferences entry to choose between installed window managers?02:46
Tm_T2) enable Compiz02:46
Tm_Tnot sure what you mean02:46
mrsno__lymeca at the moment there is "restricted drivers" menu option to manage loading the proprietary driver, i would assume using free ati radeon driver on a card that supports it = CF by default02:47
mrsno__the little testing i did, i installed nvidia drivers, restarted X and CF was running automatically, but not prior with the 'nv' driver of course02:47
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pimp31415_well turning off the triple buffer didnt help on the black windows02:53
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samsarahaving seen the screenshots of DisplayConfigGTK, I wonder if it's already working - where would I get a current version for testing?02:54
samsaraubuntu doesn't maintain a testing repository like Debian, does it?02:56
pimp31415_OMFGEEZ02:56
pimp31415_ring!!! thats it! XD02:56
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ponicgWhat is dyntics? A kernel module, or is it another part of the OS? What benefit will it provide a laptop?02:56
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DanaGWow, this old laptop literally bakes the cardbus cards -- they're right next to the CPU heatsink.02:58
DanaGThey end up burning-hot to the touch.02:58
pimp31415_ok where do i go to do compiz fusion DanaG ? and do i need to take out beryl first?03:00
DanaGNope, you can leave Beryl.03:00
DanaGFor compiz-fusion, there are two choices: official Gutsy version, and unofficial 3v1n0 version.03:01
DanaGIf you use the latter repo, it's a good idea to go to Synaptic and lock the versions of beryl, emerald, and related packages.03:01
pimp31415_mm ok i'll try repo first and go from there.03:02
DanaGThe later Beryl is broken.03:03
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BFrankhey03:04
BFrankwhy does firefox say this...03:04
BFrank***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[31556] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...03:04
DanaGEverything says it.  It's a new warning to force developers to fix their apps.03:05
BFrankfirefox is unstable for me03:06
BFrankat least on Gutsy03:06
BFrankon FreeBSD, Firefox 2.0.0.4 is far more stable03:06
BFrankdamnit03:06
BFrankjust trying to download a file from a site, causes it to crash03:07
crimsunit's pretty nasty here, too.03:09
BFrankcrap03:10
BFrankfirefox just dumped a backtrace in the terminal03:10
BFrankwhy in the hell are so many apps running unstable on gutsy03:11
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crimsun...because it's gutsy.03:12
crimsunif you want a stable release, use a different release/distro.03:12
crimsungutsy is not for the faint of heart.03:12
BFrankI mean, what happened under the hood?03:12
BFrankit is still linux right?03:12
BFrankstuff shouldn't just be crashing03:12
crimsuna lot of things.  New, relatively untested kernel, newer X.Org server/drivers, adjustments to various source packages, etc.03:13
BFrankhmm03:13
crimsunseriously, it's a _development_ branch.  You had better well know it's going to explode in your face at some time or another.03:13
BFrankwell, I figured it would03:14
BFrankbut I didn't expect solid apps to just break unexpectedly03:14
BFrankfirefox 2.0.0.4 works great on feisty03:14
BFrankit is odd that it is backtracing on gutsy03:14
BFrankeither way03:14
BFrankI guess I gotta revert back03:14
crimsunit's a completely different compilation03:15
crimsunhow could you possibly expect things to work identically?03:15
BFrankhmm, I dunno, I guess I wasn't expect things to change so drastically that stuff broke03:15
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DanaGYou can manually downgrade Firefox.  Just download the deb from a mirror, and sudo dpkg -i it.03:18
DanaGYou may also need to feed it the -gnome-support deb.03:18
BFrankoh03:18
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ptn107register mercury103:22
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intelikeyi have a dapper that wont boot sense the last security linux-image update.   depmod is borked.  thus the initrd.img is unusable and seeing that it was just an update it overwrote the working initrd.img       thoughts ?03:27
tretlecan anyone help me do a full upgrade, im afraid things went t+ts up and i ended up doing a partial upgrade03:28
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mrsno__intelikey this is for gutsy talk really, please check in #ubuntu03:28
intelikeymrsno__ checked there for over an hour03:28
mrsno__intelikey i will answer in there :-)03:28
intelikeyok;03:29
tretlecough cough :D03:29
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Jordan_Utretle, A "partial upgrade" is just a dist-upgrade, it is normal with development releases, if ubuntu-desktop got removed then re-install it03:32
tretleeh03:33
tretletheres sorta a problem there03:33
tretlei cant install from live cd because i cant get at the partition because of the bug with gparted03:34
tretleso i need to do an upgrade03:34
tretlei had gutsy running on my laptop before the cable broke and alot of the crashes im having in certain applications, like gimmie for example didnt happen on that machine03:35
tretleI think it was when it was updating the sources that the upgrade crashed03:36
tretleon source 34 or something like that03:37
tretlecan i check somewhere if i have all the sources for gutsy?03:37
mrsno__sure tretle03:38
tretlewhere? :D03:39
mrsno__!pastebin03:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:40
tretleright how do i get to the sources list from terminal again :P :D03:41
voidmagecat /etc/apt/sources.list03:41
stdinhmm, I miss the old sudo03:42
mrsno__you can also generate a sources.list on source o matic03:42
voidmageold sudo?03:42
DanaGPassword:03:42
voidmagewhat's the "new" sudo?03:42
DanaG[sudo]  Password for dana:03:42
voidmagehm.03:42
DanaGThe brackets look so out of place.03:42
stdinwhere is a user was in both the admin and sudo group the you didn't need to put a password in03:43
DanaGshould be03:43
DanaGsudo -- enter password for dana:03:43
DanaG(long dash looks better to me.)03:43
tretlehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28744/03:43
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tretlei agree about the sudo by the way :D03:43
mrsno__looks fine tretle , apart from maybe the 3rd party repositories for avant03:44
mrsno__they have feisty in the line03:44
tretlelol03:44
mrsno__ah a fellow irish person? :p03:45
tretleu sure, whats the difference between a partial upgrade and a full one so?03:45
tretleIrelend rules :D03:45
tretleIreland03:45
tretlelol, you know what time it is03:45
mrsno__it sounds like maybe you partially upgraded? im not sure you tell me :)03:46
mrsno__aye gettin late/early03:46
tretlelol03:47
tretledamn, is there any way to do a full upgrade from withing the desktop environment without going through the live cd03:48
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stdinlive-cd is not for upgrades03:49
tretlei know03:49
tretleu know what i meant :D03:49
tretleas in is there any way i can perform a full upgrade now, becasue i cant install from the cd03:50
stdinfrom feisty?03:50
mrsno__you can dist-upgrade or use update-manager to completely upgrade to gutsy03:50
stdinsudo sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/' /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- is one way03:51
tretlenice03:51
stdinbe ready to resolve some dependencies tho03:52
stdinie: apt-get install Some-Held-Back-Package03:52
tretleyeah got a strange reply when i did that03:53
tretlepastebin here i come03:54
tretle:D03:54
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tretlehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28746/03:55
tretlethe libcurl makes some sense seeing as its one of gimmie's dependancies03:55
tretleso how do i fix this do u know?03:57
stdintretle: yeah, I think that package is broke, same error here03:58
tretleany way of fixing it?03:58
tretlelol04:00
tretleright just saw the topic04:00
tretlemy apologies04:00
tretlewas the libcurl issues inclueded on the disc or did they come with an update?04:01
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crimsunthe libcurl issues are post-Tribe 2.04:04
tretleso that would explain why gimmie worked on my laptop04:05
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DanaGI wish Ubuntu had a new-hardware-inserted sound effect.04:06
tretlewhy? lol04:06
tretleI wish ubuntu had conduit04:06
tretlehmmmmmmmmmmmm......... conduuuuiiiiit04:06
tretlelol04:06
DanaGHmm, ubufox....04:08
DanaGThat's new.04:08
tretlewell, sound has stoped working, better restart and see if that does anything.... Thanks for all the help guys... see you on the flip side :D04:10
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Tired_1Does compiz/beryl work in Kubuntu Gutsy? Which packages are needed?04:22
Tired_1BTW, libgl1-mesa-dri wasn't installed by default on my box w/Radeon 925004:24
stdinTired_1: I think you just need: beryl-kubuntu, beryl-manager and emerald-themes04:24
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Tired_1Interesting message: ***MEMORY-WARNING***: beryl-manager[9787] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon.04:30
Tired_1whee!04:30
DanaGOdd: the old laptop is giving me apport popups, but my modern one is not.04:31
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ponicgWhat is dyntics? A kernel module, or is it another part of the OS? What benefit will it provide a laptop?04:42
DanaGThe kernel only runs interrupts when something requests them, so the CPU can spend more time in idle states.04:42
ponicghmm04:42
ponicgI heard it makes laptops run cooler, true?04:42
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DanaGI'm not sure -- I don't usually leave my laptop idle on AC.04:43
DanaGBut I'd imagine it would/04:44
DanaG.04:44
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crimsunyes, it certainly does.04:44
stone-unixwhen i boot into 7.10, it keeps scrolling warning message: device-mapper, device lookup failed.  anybody can help?04:44
stone-unixhi there04:46
DanaGSame here for me -- but says "dm-linear".04:46
stone-unixDanaG: yes, dm-linear also appears04:46
stone-unixsame issue i believe04:46
stone-unixno core member here in channel?04:47
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crimsunthere are at least a couple.  Why?04:49
DanaGOh, and for some reason only one of my two systems offers to file bug reports.04:50
stone-unixso i have to just wait and see?04:51
stone-unixtorturing04:51
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crimsun"wait and see"?04:51
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crimsunhave you checked Launchpad for bug reports on dmsetup and ...04:52
crimsunor you could just /part04:52
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DanaGOh, I'm just gonna remove evms.05:02
DanaGI don't need it, I believe.05:02
DanaGI use plain partitions.05:02
Hobbseecorrect05:02
Hobbseeit hasnt been mandatory for ages05:02
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GuyFromHellI'm having issues loading into the gutsy live-cd. could I just sed repositories list and update from feisty?05:08
stdinGuyFromHell: that's what I did05:09
GuyFromHellstdin, awesome i'm gonna dl the feisty cd now and try that (assuming i crash again in my compy's current state... i'm fed up with it...)05:09
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gnomefreakGuyFromHell: i would uninstall any non ubuntu packages you installed and make sure you have your -desktop package installed before you change repos05:10
gnomefreakoh and comment out any non ubuntu repos05:10
GuyFromHellgnomefreak, i'd be going from a fresh install05:10
gnomefreakah ok05:10
GuyFromHellunless ubuntu can upgrade my gentoo :P05:11
GuyFromHell(i would also be very scared at that point)05:11
gnomefreakits possible with alot of hacking but will never be supported ;)05:11
GuyFromHelloh joy, hacking ;)05:12
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HobbseeGuyFromHell: grab a tribe 2 cd and do it that way :)05:12
GuyFromHellHobbsee, the tribe2 cd won't load05:12
Hobbseeyou'll probably need to run "sudo ubiquity" instead of running the installer from the icon05:12
HobbseeGuyFromHell: where does it die?05:13
GuyFromHelli get a major kernel panic or something. completely unresponsive to anything short of a sysrq05:13
GuyFromHelljust before KDM05:13
Hobbseeouch05:13
GuyFromHellthe good ole' three finger salute doesn't even work at that point05:14
GuyFromHellit's weird though. at one point i heard the KDM startup sound05:14
Hobbseei wonder if a tribe 1 cd does that05:15
Hobbseesomeone else mentioned that, though.05:15
Hobbseethey're going to debug it next week at the distro sprint, if he doesnt get it solved05:15
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GuyFromHellHobbsee, huh, looks like i could look forward to a working installer cd for a change05:17
HobbseeGuyFromHell: heh, yeah.05:17
HobbseeGuyFromHell: it's only the second milestone, too05:18
GuyFromHelly05:20
GuyFromHell... that was supposed to be put into my terminal...05:21
Hobbseeheh05:23
pimp31415_mm ok i have no idea what's causing it05:25
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pimp31415_but in gnome where you can right click and do open with - it wont actually open whatever file with whatever application - though it will open with the default either by double click or right click and select05:26
Hobbseeif i break it for anyone, i'd prefer to knwo about it *before* the tribe 3 comes up.05:26
pimp31415_and the gnome panels do not let me put a menu onto them05:26
pimp31415_lol Hobbsee05:26
Hobbseeelse i'll have to yell at myself :P05:26
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Hobbseehmmm.  if i run a bzr update, i wonder if it will hose my uncommitted changes, or let me merge them...05:32
Hobbseeoh good, it was up to date05:32
shirishanybody got a solution for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28752/ what should I do?05:32
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stdinprobably a while05:33
stdinshirish: you can't do much, just don't update it05:34
shirishstdin: ok cool :)05:34
Hobbseeerk.  build deps05:36
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stdinit's kinda ironic, you need apt to get apts build-deps :p05:37
Hobbseeyeah, which makes it kinda bad if you can make it segfault :P05:38
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Hobbseestdin: i've always wondered though - is there any way out, apart from a reinstall, if dpkg breaks?05:39
Hobbseei guess you could wget the fixed versions of the broken files, move htem to the correct locatoin, and do it that way...05:39
pimp31415_heh sure Hobbsee05:40
pimp31415_boot to live cd05:40
Hobbseewell, no, because you couldnt even use a live cd for it05:41
pimp31415_open a couple packages with archive manager and do the hard way05:41
stdinwell debs are "current archives" IIRC, so "ar x package.deb" will unpack it, then untar the data.tar.gz should "install" it05:41
pimp31415_[after mounting the dir] 05:41
pimp31415_XD05:41
Hobbseebecause if you chroot in, then you end up using the chrooted app05:41
pimp31415_BAM05:41
pimp31415_ive broken that before05:41
pimp31415_try removing perl man05:41
Hobbseeso yeah, you would have to literally actually move all the files05:41
pimp31415_friggan horrifying05:41
Hobbseeheh05:41
pimp31415_isnt there a cp command that ignores dir;s?05:42
pimp31415_yeah force write over em so to speak should work fine XD05:42
Hobbseecp ignores dirs by default05:42
pimp31415_ya so extract and define where it should consider root or some such nonsense05:43
pimp31415_but extract the thing first~!05:43
pimp31415_mm actually yeah file roller from live cd on mounted /target should do it just fine05:43
Hobbseewell, if you tried /usr/bin/dpkg first.  everything else is probably OK05:43
pimp31415_meh05:43
Hobbseedepending where it's broken05:43
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Hobbseeof course - you should still be able to boot your system with no dpkg05:43
Hobbseewell, a broken dpkg05:43
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pimp31415_but how do you fix it05:43
pimp31415_o05:43
PeptideHello... I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 and when I log in... the system takes a long time to try to connect to my network... is there anything I can do to speed up the process?05:44
pimp31415_ic mebbie your file-roller or tar already still works05:44
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Hobbseei thought this was supposed to build!05:55
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DanaGWoah, trying to compile "omnibook" kernel module for Gutsy:06:03
DanaGI get an internal compiler error.06:03
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pimp31415_aaahhhh06:05
pimp31415_i LOVE gnome-art package <306:06
pimp31415_so DanaG i dont get it - on the compiz-thingie06:06
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pimp31415_i dont see it anywhere exactly so meh06:06
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pimp31415_ah ha06:09
pimp31415_ive noticed one thing though - when i can right click on title of a window and send to another workspace [not in beryl]  i can add my menu to the panel [for instance internet menu by itself]  and when i cant i cant06:10
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DanaGDoes anybody know of anything that can take advantage of an accelerated framebuffer?06:43
DanaGHow do you launch hildon-desktop?06:54
DanaGIt doesn't appear in GDM.06:54
DanaGOdd: with gnome not present, I still see Failsafe Gnome.'06:54
Toma-hildon you say? thats for a nokia 770/n80006:55
DanaGRight now all I get is a bunch of empty rectangles that pop out menus.06:57
Toma-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/HildonDesktopManualProcedure06:58
DanaGJust had to comment out DISPLAY=:007:01
DanaGer, =:107:01
DanaGwhich was wrong.07:01
DanaGBut there seem to be a helluvalot of missing .desktop files.07:01
DanaGOh, time to try with xephyr.07:03
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DanaGHmm, that windowmanager looks nice.07:12
tretleanyone any idea when libcurl should be fixed?07:12
Hobbseesoon07:16
Hobbseeit should mostly be fixed now07:16
calctretle: i'm going to try to get OOo uploaded tomorrow07:16
calctretle: otherwise it will be sometime early next week (i hope) i'll be at the sprint though so i don't know for certain07:16
Hobbseecalc: make bzr faster.07:16
calcHobbsee: i'm new at bzr, you can make it faster :)07:16
Hobbseeheh07:17
Hobbseeso am i07:17
calci'm an old cvs/svn guy07:17
tretle:)07:20
tretlewhat do u guys think of conduit07:20
tretlewhether it should be included in gutsy or gutsy +107:20
tretle?07:20
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DanaGWTF?  Pidgin just crashed.  Oh, and apport isn't trying to report anything.07:24
Hobbseeit hates you07:25
crimsunexcellent!  Now that's what I call good bug email spam.07:25
DanaGYet on the other laptop, apport does pop up an icon.07:26
starzok i got compiz-fusion thing goin07:29
starzbut i still cant find most of the plugins07:29
starzand hint: couldnt get it working with gtk decorations - had to unclick that box07:29
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starzanyway DanaG i assume you mean the gnome-compiz-preferences thing right?07:31
starzwhere do i find all ter pluginzorz? i have installed but like that one where it shows the whole desktop etc07:31
starzer all the desktops - i meant07:31
DanaGOh, use ccsm.07:37
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DanaGArg, knetworkmanager swapped left and right mouse buttons.08:09
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TheFuzzballHi, I just installed Gutsy and when I had finished I installed kubuntu-desktop, after I did that, when I right-clicked on the Desktop and selected "Change Desktop Background" the appearance window shows up only for a second and Dies (no crash report)09:03
TheFuzzballis this a problem with Gutsy?09:03
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Tomcat_Since you are using gutsy, I guess it is. :)09:08
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TheFuzzball:), I think I had this same problem with a stable version of Edgy once09:10
TheFuzzballI never figured it out :(09:10
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TheFuzzballI though I'd give it another go09:11
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Vuenman tremulous01:23
Vuenack01:24
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vinny_the installer doesnt like my macbook. hangs when selecting a mountpoint. alternate iso works tho03:36
lamalexrun install as sudo ubiquity03:36
lamalexthat is a known bug03:36
T-ConnectCan I burn Ubuntu from Ubuntu burner?03:36
vinny_oh03:37
lamalexhopefully fixed in tribe 303:37
vinny_awsome03:37
T-ConnectWhat burning program that I need to use to burn ISO onto CD/DVD?03:38
lamalexfrom windows or ubuntu03:38
T-ConnectUbuntu03:38
lamalexjust right click the iso and pick "write to disk"03:38
T-ConnectOh ok03:38
vinny_oops03:38
lamalex?03:39
vinny_Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dbus-glib/libdbus-glib-1-2_0.73-2build1_i386.deb Could not resolve 'nz.archive.ubuntu.com'03:39
vinny_Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dbus-glib/libdbus-glib-1-2_0.73-2build1_i386.deb Could not resolve 'nz.archive.ubuntu.com'03:39
vinny_:(03:39
vinny_the auto update03:39
vinny_hasnt propogated to my local repo03:39
coNPit is an error of your name server03:39
lamalexcan you ping nz.archive.ubuntu.com?03:40
vinny_oh03:40
vinny_doh!03:40
vinny_it is too03:40
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coNPyes I can03:40
coNPlamalex: but it seems to be a name resolution issue03:40
lamalexcoNP: that's why I was asking /him/  if he could ping it03:40
coNPokay I see :)03:41
vinny_cant ping it03:41
vinny_but nameserver works03:41
T-ConnectOn the 19 Tribe CD 3 will be out?03:41
vinny_vinny@blackbook:~$ ping nz.archive.ubuntu.com03:41
vinny_PING ubuntu.citylink.co.nz (202.7.6.10) 56(84) bytes of data.03:41
vinny_ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable03:41
vinny_ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable03:41
vinny_ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable03:41
lamalexvinny_: that means you can't ping it03:42
lamalexare you on your ubuntu box right now?03:42
lamalexyour gutsy box specifically03:42
vinny_yah :) wonder why nameserver resolves to an ip03:42
vinny_yes03:42
vinny_on bitchx03:42
lamalexvinny_: nameserver always resolves to an ip03:42
lamalexthat's the point03:42
lamalexcan you get to any website on your gutsy box?03:42
vinny_id doesnt look like a nameserver issue03:42
vinny_if it resolves?03:42
vinny_yep03:43
vinny_everythings working perfectly03:43
coNPvinny_: sure, but it might be in the cache03:43
vinny_oh03:43
lamalextracert to the repo03:43
lamalexsee if your ping gets lost03:43
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vinny_yes03:44
vinny_vinny@blackbook:~$ ping nz.archive.ubuntu.com03:45
vinny_PING ubuntu.citylink.co.nz (202.7.6.10) 56(84) bytes of data.03:45
vinny_ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable03:45
vinny_ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable03:45
vinny_ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable03:45
vinny_18 sent03:45
vinny_3 received03:45
vinny_looks like the repos having issues03:45
vinny_lol03:45
lamalexi can hit it fine03:45
lamalexit's on your network between you and the repo somewhere03:45
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vinny_lol03:45
vinny_i dont have traceroute installed03:45
vinny_hahha03:45
lamalexchange to main repo and install it if you want03:46
vinny_bummer03:46
vinny_i cant install traceroute03:46
vinny_yeah03:46
vinny_i should03:46
vinny_ok ill do that03:46
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tretlelibcurl4-gnutls is showing up in update manager grey and un selectable, I know there is an issue with libcurl, is this a proposed update? is that why i cant install it or is this some other issue03:56
tretlebasically is this normal, can anyone install it?03:56
Hobbseeno03:57
Hobbseewell, at least, they shouldnt03:57
tretleso normal03:57
tretleim after checking again03:57
tretleits not grey anymore, im able to view the changelog for the update just not install it03:58
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roeapt-get -f install seems to fix the libcurl* issues fyi04:17
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mrsno__thats a new icon O_o 'unable to get data'04:21
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mrsnoit only appeared on the notification panel while update manager was running, grey'd out04:24
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DitirisCan anyone help with this error after alternate install?  http://paste.uni.cc/1664205:03
shirishDitris: I'm no whiz, but are you able to get to a console or it just kinda hangs in there?05:03
Ditirisshirish: It just hangs, I cannot get to console.05:04
Ditirisshirish: It doesn't make it through the boot process.05:04
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shirishDitiris: ah ok, CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't do anything?05:05
Ditirisshirish: That's what I see when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1.  Otherwise I see the splash screen with the status bar.05:06
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axxomight be hardware, ran memtest?05:06
DitirisYep, no errors.05:07
mrsnoDitiris that sounds similar to http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/misc/ubuntu_on_core2duo.html perhaps?05:07
mrsnoin that page they just rebooted to get past it05:07
Ditirismrsno: I saw that one on google too.  Does sound similar, but I didn't have the same thing with BIOS incorrectly reporting RAM, and I'm not sure he ever got into X.05:09
Ditirismrsno: I need to get into X to be able to use my development tools ^_^05:10
mrsnoreboot and keep trying it :)05:10
Ditirismrsno: lol I rebooted about thirty times last night05:10
shirishDitiris: apart from that, you could also try downloading the current (today's) .iso , there have been updates (esp. in xserver-xorg) video.05:10
DitirisI was all excited when I saw the "Trying to fix, but need to reboot"05:11
DitirisMy excitement quickly waned.05:11
mrsnoyea it sounded like it could have helped05:11
Ditirisshirish: I'll give it a go and see what happens.05:11
shirishDitiris: of course mine is always the last thing to try05:12
DitirisMy theory is that it's using the wrong chipset driver or something.  It identifies as 965G instead of P965, but, I have no idea if that means anything at all.05:12
Ditirisshirish: wha wha?  I'll try it as soon as I get home!05:12
shirishlol, I meant downloading the cd image, wouldn't want to waste your bandwidth if mrsno's suggestion pays off05:13
mrsnosounds like they have rebooted lots already Ditiris  :) so trying a new iso is good too05:13
shirishDitiris: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/05:14
Ditirisshirish: Meh, I have lots of spare bandwidth.  I'm at work.  ^_^05:14
shirishfor alternate CD, check to see the reports (there is a txt report with each day's build) and if it says its good, its good05:15
shirishoops, me bad, its report.html not report.txt05:15
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mrsno965G instead of P965, <-- is onboard vga disabled?05:23
Ditirismrsno: Hmm... I don't have onboard VGA... at least I don't have a DB-15 on the back of my motherboard, so I'm pretty sure I don't have onboard VGA, but I'll check the BIOS when I get home just in case.05:24
shirishdoes anybody remember when tribe 2 was released?05:26
shirishcancel that05:26
shirishubotu gutsy05:26
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+105:26
coNP!tribe2 |shirish05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tribe2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
shirishcoNP: the release schedule has the dates , thanx though :)05:27
coNPand ubotu seems to know nothing about tribe2 :)05:28
mrsnotribe 2 was jun 28th? ish~05:28
Hobbseemrsno: sounds about right05:29
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shirishyup, tribe 2 was june 28th05:35
shirishI was trying to find out when the kernel 2.6.22.7-14 was introduced, apparently it was done on 25th June, so he has the latest kernel, the only thing I guess he could try from the new cd is the new chipset drivers which were upgraded in the last 3-4 days or something.05:37
shirishok guys see u l8ter, enjoying the latest iteration of the herbie franchisee on cable , see u l8ter folks :)05:38
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gdiebelwhat script starts up the acpi suspend mode, processing scripts in /etc/acpi/suspend.d and all?05:40
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ubuntu_hi!05:43
ubuntu_i have network problem after yesterday updates... so how could i fix it?05:46
ubuntu_do you have any idea?05:47
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ubuntu_:)05:49
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ubuntu_my G965 works much better with 7.1005:50
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ubuntu_do you know even which package could cause this?05:53
ubuntu_have you had same problem?05:53
Hobbseewell, waving my magic wand...i'd say it's likely a PEBKAC error05:54
coNPanother network manager issue, maybe05:54
Hobbseewhich is entirely guesswork, as you've told us absolutely *nothing* about the issue, except for the fact that it has something to do with a network05:55
Hobbseewhich is why you got no decent answer.05:55
Hobbsee(because of your inability to form a decent, answerable, question)05:55
coNPdoes not work does not help :)05:55
ubuntu_:|05:56
axxoits as helpful as 'fix it', so go fix it :)05:56
Hobbseeheck, you havent even told us if it's wireless or wired.  which is basic...surely...05:56
ubuntu_wired05:57
ubuntu_when i run ifconfig, there is no inet. addr.05:57
ubuntu_but there is eth005:57
coNPubuntu_: can you pastebin somewhere your /etc/network/interfaces06:01
ubuntu_ok06:01
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ubuntu_http://pastebin.com/94324506:03
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coNPwhat about some "sudo dhclient eth0" results?06:05
coNPyou might get an usable ubuntu box by installing the stable version, though06:06
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ubuntu_i try it when i boot hdd06:13
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ico2_hi, running up-to-date ubuntu gutsy, mobo is intel DG965WH, how do i control fan speeds (preferably automatically)?06:51
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ubuntu_automaticaly, you just dont hear that when it accerlates06:54
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tretleis there a way you can use compiz themes in gutsy through the integrated desktop effects? and is there a way you can add/ enable/ disable compiz fusion plugins?06:58
ubuntu_why dont you use beryl?06:59
tretlei do at the moment06:59
tretle:)06:59
tretlebut compiz fusions the future07:00
tretleso07:00
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tretleplus i was just curious as to how or if gutsy allows compiz themes plugins and addition of new ones from the get go07:00
verb3k_tretle, I am in gutsy yet , but does it look very different from Feisty?07:00
verb3k_I am NOPT *07:01
verb3k_Not*07:01
tretleim using it at the moment, it actually plays nice with my pc hardware, which is good because edgy and feisty sure as hell didnt07:01
tretleeven at this stage, its my favorite version07:02
verb3k_and it's not gold yet :D07:02
tretleyep07:03
tretleIm gratefull to all the amazing work everyone involved has done07:03
verb3k_Right , the ubuntu community is the best distro community out there07:04
tretlewould be nice if you could add compiz fusion themes from within the gtk theme chooser07:04
tretle"Right , the ubuntu community is the best distro community out there " no doubt07:04
tretlewell for the user anyway07:05
verb3k_it's now our job to spread the word and let the people know about this amazing product07:05
verb3k_tretle,  CF is not yet stable , you can expect this soon07:05
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tretlehehehe, back when i was still at school i had someone come up to me and ask me if i could install ubuntu on their new laptop, I believe completely in spreading the word but i dont like bashing other os's at the same time07:06
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tretlefirst question was are you a gamer07:06
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tretle:D07:07
tretlewill you be using this as a gaming machine07:07
tretleand he was so i dual booted it07:07
tretlebut needless to say he got a ps3 in the end and got rid of the windows partition07:07
tretleits great when you see it happen in front of you :D07:08
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tretleis there a 3d cube plugin included in compiz fusion gutsy tribe 2 version?07:09
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vinnyanyone have any idea why firefox extensions dont seem to install07:31
vinnyat all07:31
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vinnyim trying to install stylish for firefox and the add-ons install dialog just sits there with the progress bar at 007:32
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gnomefreakvinny: i dont have a problem installing extentions maybe its just that one07:36
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verb_vinny,  me too .. I can install plugins07:37
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alex_mayorgahi, is anyone aware that the "release notes" for Gutsy still show the content for Feisty?07:48
gnomefreakverb_: extensions is the problem not plugins07:48
gnomefreakalex_mayorga: they will for a while07:48
alex_mayorgagnomefreak, just confirming, thanks07:49
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verb_gnomefreak,  Thanks for the correction and info07:52
gnomefreakyw07:52
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Dannilionzhow do I share a ppp connection? Everytime I turn the network on it tries to route dns through there, instead of the ppp connection, meaning I can't use the internet and the network at the same time.07:55
coNPDannilion: you can setup your default route07:55
Dannilionhow?07:55
coNPDannilion: first list them with "route" and look if default route is ppp0 or ethN07:56
coNP(if not I might give you the wrong answer)07:56
Dannilioneth0/eth1 are disabled at the moment. Should I turn one on?07:57
Dannilion(I think it's eth0 the cable's currently plugged into :p)07:57
coNPmaybe you should :)07:57
DannilionKernel IP routeing table07:58
DannilionDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface07:58
Dannilion10.6.6.6        *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp007:58
Danniliondefault         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp007:58
coNPDannilion, by the way, you are using Kubuntu, are you?07:58
Dannilionyes07:58
vinnyim trying to install stylish for firefox and the add-ons install dialog just sits there with the progress bar at 007:59
vinnyalso anyone know how to turn of the nautilus splash ?08:00
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coNPvinny: install gnome-splashscreen-manager08:00
vinnyokies thanks08:00
vinny:D08:00
Dannilionokay, I think it may be working08:03
DannilionAt least if the internet is still running08:03
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coNPDannilion: how did you make it work?08:04
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vinnyone more noob question, im just about to change the default background colour in presessiondefault from #dab082 because i dont like the brown bit, its safe to just put #000000 for black?08:05
Dannilionset the IP address for eth0 using the command line, rather than the System Settings GUI08:05
DannilionI think it may be something the GUI is doing that is causing the problem08:05
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DannilionBTW: is anyone dual booting Vista and K/Ubuntu?08:06
vinnyyes08:06
coNPvicox: I guess so08:06
vinnyim triplebooting osx leo  gutsy and vista08:06
gnomefreakDannilion: network-manager is broken08:06
Dannilionhow easy is it to do?08:06
Dannilionahhh08:06
gnomefreakDannilion: for some-most not everyone08:06
Dannilionok08:06
vinnyon a macbook its fairly straight forard08:06
gnomefreakDannilion: it will be looked at more in depth around the week of the 1608:07
vinnytrick is instal vista first08:07
vinnyso you dont have to fix grub08:07
DannilionAhh... this is a new laptop with Vista Home Premium pre-installed08:07
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DannilionI was going to dual-boot it for a bit08:07
vinnyew08:07
lamalexthe real trick is to Dban every bit of vista off of it08:07
vinnyi dont think you can even run that in a vm08:08
lamalexDannilion: laptop specs?08:08
Dannilionerm, will grab sticker :p08:08
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vinnyif you have an efi based machine08:09
DannilionIntel Core 2 Duo T5500, 1GB DDR2 ram, Intel Graphics 950, 80GB harddrive08:09
vinnythere is an excellent boot manager08:09
DannilionAcer08:09
vinnycalled rEFIt08:09
lamalexI have a brand new dell, core2duo 2.0ghz (per core), 2gb DDR2, and it's a little bit laggy sitty next to me that I set up for a client08:09
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DannilionI have no Feisty discs :p08:10
lamalexdownload one?08:10
vinnyi had no issues installing on my macbook08:10
vinnyhas very similar hardware08:10
DannilionUsing mobile phone for internet at the moment (hence the ppp problem)08:10
lamalexah08:10
vinnyonly issue was the installer hang issue08:10
DannilionIt's only 460kbps, so will take hours08:10
lamalexwell do you need to install it /now/?08:11
DannilionI have the alternate install disc- I find it faster08:11
vinnyyeah08:11
DannilionNot right this minute, but by Wednesday yes08:11
vinnyi used alternate in the end too08:11
lamalexalternate is better by far08:11
vinnyyah08:11
vinnyagrees08:11
DannilionMy daughter wants to play supertux on it, and I see her by myself on Wednesday (she's in foster care)08:11
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vinnyhey what was that app to install to let me disable the nautilus splash screen?08:14
vinnyim using bitchx so i cant scroll back for some reason08:14
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tretle"(19:10:55) Dannilion: It's only 460kbps, so will take hours" download the torrent, that way you can download in your own timw08:28
tretletimw = time08:28
DannilionI'll just install gutsy :)08:29
DannilionI won't update it at exactly the same time as the desktop pc, so if anything breaks I'll be ok08:30
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tretle"(19:14:29) vinny: hey what was that app to install to let me disable the nautilus splash screen?" - I refer you to - "(19:00:46) coNP: vinny: install gnome-splashscreen-manager"08:30
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T-ConnectWhy install it when you can just run it?08:42
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kubuntu_now i have it09:28
kubuntu_http://pastebin.com/94336309:28
kubuntu_i dont understand a shit :P09:28
axxoworst pastebin site ever09:28
kubuntu_:/ maybe09:29
kubuntu_ok09:29
kubuntu_i put it elsewhere09:29
kubuntu_http://pastebin.ca/60628809:31
pwnguinso what exactly's the problem with that?09:32
kubuntu_:/ i dont know :D09:33
kubuntu_but09:33
pwnguinit sent a DHCP request to lease an IP09:33
pwnguinand got a lease for 91.145.79.2509:33
kubuntu_it's ok?09:34
pwnguinit looks okay, but its possible you got a lease from a server you didnt want09:34
pwnguindoes it work okay?09:34
kubuntu_no09:34
kubuntu_that thing on tray says i dont have connection09:35
pwnguinif you run "ifconfig" at the terminal09:35
pwnguindoes it say eth0 is UP RUNNING and a few other things?09:36
kubuntu_there is eth0 but there is no inet. addr.09:36
kubuntu_or any other ip4 adress09:37
pwnguinoh, i guess you're using kde09:37
kubuntu_yes09:37
kubuntu_:D09:37
pwnguini havent used network manager on that09:37
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kubuntu_i have had same problem some time ago, somehow i could install updates and it worked again09:39
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pwnguinyou might want to look at the launchpad bug reports for network-manager09:39
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kubuntu_is there allready updated version of network-manager?09:47
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pwnguinwell, gutsy is in development, so you should be updating regularly09:48
kubuntu_i update every day09:49
vinnehlol09:49
vinnehive updated twice in 6 hors09:49
kubuntu_:P09:49
vinnehi hope this doesnt break anything :D09:50
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vinnehi love it when updates are broken09:50
kubuntu_i forced updates :)09:51
vinnehi just leave it on auto09:51
kubuntu_but it was only akregator, so i removed it, then update and then install akregator09:51
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vinnehits nice to be reminded there are people busily hacking away at it09:52
vinnehcompiz just got updated09:52
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=== lamalex wish compiz worked
vinnehits working for me09:52
lamalexcompiz straight up resfuses to run for me09:52
vinnehlol09:52
lamalexworks for everyone else09:53
vinnehprobly wont work on this update09:53
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vinnehoh09:53
vinnehwhat hardware09:53
lamalexati x200m :\09:53
lamalexXgl is running09:53
vinnehoh09:53
lamalexberyl runs09:53
vinnehcan you go the aiglx route with that card09:53
lamalexnope09:53
lamalexnot yet09:53
vinnehmmm09:53
lamalexit's being developed09:53
lamalexthey're close09:53
lamalexthe compiz-fusion git works, just not the ubuntu packages09:54
vinnehsad man09:54
vinnehthats sad09:54
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vinnehso does it just crash as soon as you run it09:54
lamalexyah09:54
vinnehno renderer09:54
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lamalex"cannot enable desktop effects"09:54
lamalexit's just weird it's not picking up xgl09:55
lamalexspecially when beryl works fine09:55
vinnehdid you add the repos09:55
vinnehand install from them09:55
vinnehim not using the ubuntu compiz included with gusty09:55
vinnehthat didnt work for me09:55
lamalexyah those work09:55
lamalexbut I'm test ubuntu09:55
vinnehheheh09:56
lamalexnot external repos09:56
vinneh:D09:56
lamalexlike I said, the git works09:56
=== vinneh is bad
lamalexi can download and compile and it runs09:56
vinnehwell09:56
lamalexbut I care about getting gutsy as good as in can get09:56
vinnehthere you go, i can tell you that aiglx on a gma950 doesnt "enable" either09:56
lamalexso I'm just testing packages in the repos since that's all ubuntu is responsible for09:56
lamalexthat's good to know actually09:56
vinnehgood now i dont feel so guilty about using external versions09:57
vinneh:D09:57
vinnehheh09:57
vinnehanyone seen those new reiserFS shirts09:57
lamalexhaha yah09:57
vinneh:D09:58
vinnehi want one09:58
lamalexthere's too much evidence that he did it09:58
vinnehyeah i know09:58
vinnehhe did do it09:58
lamalexi'd feel guilty donating to his defense09:58
vinnehbut hey09:59
vinnehat least he contributed more to society than oj simpson fo example09:59
lamalexi don't know about that09:59
lamalexOJ was in the naked gun!09:59
lamalexthat movie is epic09:59
vinnehlol09:59
vinnehtouche09:59
vinneh:P10:00
vinnehhahah10:00
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kubuntu_now i try to install newest nm... bye!10:01
vinnehhad any luck with firefox extensions?10:01
vinnehkk10:01
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vicoxwhat is ubufox exactly?10:07
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Kakemanyeah!10:10
Kakemani got it working10:10
Kakemaninstalled newest nm, update-grub and kind a reconnected it10:11
Kakemanthanks dudes!10:11
DanaGDon't mark text translatable. This program is not installed, and is not used by end users. Fixes #45372110:12
DanaGWhat bug is that?  It's not debian or ubuntu!10:12
DanaGOh, it's a Gnome bug.10:13
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petervkcan someone tell me if the gusty bcm43xx driver supports wireless G (54mbs) ?10:14
lamalexit does10:15
petervkI'm using feisty and it's only wireless B (11)10:15
petervklamalex: sweet10:15
lamalex.. mine is G in feisty10:15
petervklamalex: do you know which card you have?10:15
lamalexBCM431110:15
lamalexare you sure your card supports G?10:16
petervklamalex: mine is a BCM4306 stolen from a wireless G router10:16
lamalexhaha10:16
petervklamalex: I'm pretty sure it supports G10:16
petervklamalex: as the router did10:16
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petervklamalex: I guess I should try the daily live-cd and check.10:17
petervklamalex: thanks for your help10:17
lamalexnp10:17
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DanaGwoah, funny sound.10:20
DanaGThe old gpm-suspend-failure.10:20
DanaGhah: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/gpm-suspend-failure.wav10:22
lamalexhahaha yah10:24
PiciMy dog didnt like that noise ;)10:24
lamalexi hate that sound10:24
DanaGfixed: Use a more professional warning sound. Fixes #40614410:27
vinnehanyone use stylish in firefox?10:27
DanaGNote: that's on Gnome's bugtracker.10:27
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vinnehi think that sounds very professional10:31
vinnehlol10:31
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DannilionI'm on my new laptop :)10:31
vinnehexcellent10:31
DannilionNot tried wireless yet. What do I need to install for WPA again?10:32
vinnehoh10:32
vinnehi need this info too10:32
vinnehhehe10:32
vinnehi couldnt even connect to 64bit wep10:32
Dannilioneek10:32
vinnehi had to unhide my ssid10:32
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h3sp4wnShould just support normal wext stuff10:33
Dannilionmy ssid is unhidden10:33
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h3sp4wn(via the compatibility layer)10:33
Dannilionbut not tried connecting to it yet10:33
vinnehin fact10:33
vinnehif i remember correctly, i completely unlocked my access point and useed whitelisting10:33
vinnehbecuse i jsut couldnt get it working10:33
vinnehhowever i was drinking beer10:34
vinnehso i mihgt have more success if if i attempt it again10:34
vinneh:)10:34
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DannilionI think it will take me a while to get used to widescreen :p10:34
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vinnehwhat chip is it?10:35
vinnehgrafix10:35
Dannilionwireless?10:35
Dannilionoh, Intel10:35
vinnehis it displaying 1280x80010:35
Dannilion(wireless I don't actually know at the moment)10:35
vinnehor is it bigger than that10:35
DannilionI will check10:35
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vinnehhow big is your widescreen10:37
vinnehmines a little one. 13inch10:37
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vinnehstill had to dpkg-reconfigure to make it aware of it tho10:38
Dannilionit says it's displaying 1024x768, but that can't be right10:38
Dannilionmy widescreen is 15.4inch10:38
vinnehok10:38
vinnehrun this10:39
eagles0513875how do i install vmware server10:39
vinnehsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg10:39
Dannilion(actually, things do look a bit stretched, but it won't let me change the size)10:39
vinnehfrom a terminal10:39
vinnehand then10:39
vinnehselect the right res10:39
Dannilionokay10:39
vinneheagle10:40
vinnehtheres a good guide for that10:40
vinnehon digg.com10:40
vinnehjsut have a look under limux10:40
h3sp4wnDannilion: does xrandr list it as a valid mode ?10:40
vinnehi think its called, 10 steps to windows apps on linux10:40
=== DanaG has 17" 1440x900.
=== pwnguin has a 14" 1440x900 ;)
vinneh13inch 1280x800 :(10:41
DannilionScreen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 76810:41
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vinnehyour running gutsy so you should have drivers10:42
vinnehit wont hurt to go lower10:42
vinnehpick 1440x90010:42
DanaGMine is 99.89 DPI.  I don't get how anybody can stand those 86 DPI panels on desktops/10:42
DanaG.10:42
pwnguin86 dpi?10:43
DanaG1280x1024 at 19".10:43
h3sp4wnIts 96 the usual one to use10:43
DanaGOr 1440x900 at 19".10:43
pwnguinhmm10:43
DanaGWhereas on laptops, you can get 1920x1200 even on 15".10:43
Dannilionit's meant to be 1280x80010:43
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vinnehokies10:43
vinnehwell select that10:44
vinnehin10:44
DanaGGaah, the new suspend-failure sound is painful -- by design.10:44
vinnehsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg10:44
pwnguinwhat i dont like is that the edid seems to be wrong on my laptop10:44
h3sp4wnmy monitor's edid is messed up also10:44
vinnehpardon my ignorance, edid?10:44
Dannilionit won't let me select anything with that command10:45
pwnguinits a string the monitor will return that is supposed to describe its capabilities10:45
pwnguinie resolution, preferred resolution, size10:45
pwnguinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID10:45
vinnehreally?10:46
vinnehit should give you a menu10:46
Dannilionreally10:46
vinnehwhere you can select a video mode10:46
DannilionI will let the updates finish before I try anything again10:46
vinnehyou certainly shouldnt have to do the 915resolution hack10:46
DanaGI kinda like the DEEdooDEEdooDEEdoo sound.10:47
vinnehME TOO10:47
vinnehits "professional"10:47
Danniliondanni@Spock:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg10:47
Dannilionxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration10:47
Dannilion   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2007070622481110:47
Danniliondanni@Spock:~$10:47
Dannilionthat's all that comes up#10:48
vinnehhmm10:48
pwnguini think you need to adjust your dpkg configuration to allow lower priority questions10:48
pwnguinone of the early goals of ubuntu i recall was making dpkg have sane defaults10:49
vinnehim googling in case i missed a step?10:49
vinnehlol10:49
DanaGNow it's more of a BEEEBEEEBEEBEEBEEEP.10:51
pwnguinwell, at least wikipedia explains why my edid is bad10:52
pwnguin1440x800 isnt a multiple of 810:52
pwnguinerr10:52
pwnguin1440x90010:52
vinnehwell you might just ha10:52
vinnehve10:52
vinnehto edit xorg.conf10:53
vinnehstrange that dpkg doesnt work for you tho10:53
vinnehyou on tribe 2?10:53
=== voidmage read that as tribes 2
voidmagewhat a great game.10:55
vinnehlol10:55
vinnehYEs10:55
vinnehit was10:55
pwnguinkinda buggy10:55
DannilionI'm gonna leave laptop updating, while I go put some clothes on/tidy up10:55
vinnehim in the ETQW beta10:56
vinnehthats a awsome game10:56
vinnehtoo much for my meager hardware10:56
vinnehlol10:56
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DanaGHah, funny lid sounds.11:03
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ico2_hi, running up-to-date ubuntu gutsy, mobo is intel DG965WH, how do i control fan speeds (preferably automatically)?11:12
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FunnyLookinHatico2_, there's no good way to yet really... But you could try googling around for a utility that rumor says intel released to do just that11:29
FunnyLookinHatMy guess is that it'll be out hopefully in time for 8.04, but not gutsy11:29
ico2_ok, thanks11:29
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tretle"(21:55:02) ***voidmage read that as tribes 2" you should try warsow11:32
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vinny!topic11:40
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Dana1argh, what happened to r818x?11:40
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DanaGArgh, my ipw3945 can't connect to wpa with hidden SSID.12:09
DanaGIn fact, it doesn't even see the network, even as "<ssid not broadcast>".12:09
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HyperCityhow can i see the status of port 8080 on my pc?12:14
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lamalexnmap -p 8080 <ip>12:16
lamalexhypercity ^12:16
FunnyLookinHatHyperCity, or System - Administration - Network Tools12:16
lamalexpfft, who needs a gui12:17
lamalexguis are for the weak12:17
lamalex:P12:17
HyperCityinsted of ip i should use localhost?12:17
lamalexyah12:17
lamalexlocalhost just refers to an ip12:18
HyperCityi'm a lammer with networking12:18
lamalexbut it's 127.0.0.112:18
lamalexyou could also your machines external ip12:18
lamalexifconfig <interface>12:18
lamalexusually eth012:19
HyperCity sudo apt-get install nmap12:19
HyperCityhe he12:19
HyperCityjust a second12:19
lamalexah i forgot its not in by default12:19
lamalexits always one of the first things i apt-get12:20
HyperCityi get this 8080/tcp closed http-proxy12:20
HyperCitynow my prob is this12:20
lamalexthen 8080 is closed12:21
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HyperCityi'vd started a tomcat server but when i try to conetct to localhost i get page not found12:21
HyperCityhow do i  solve that?12:22
tretlei suppose we wont be seeing that libcurl update till Monday at the earliest :(12:27

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