[12:32] terminal server client came up black and on rdp went black but both were solved by minimizing and unminimizing said window - redraw issue? === profoX_ [n=wesley@d54C0E764.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === profoX__ [n=wesley@d54C0E764.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@71.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-2241604e61338daa] has joined #ubuntu+1 === profoX__ is now known as profoX` === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:56] Hi all - my nm-applet always prompts me for my wireless passphrase when booting up my notebook - despite selecting "always allow"... is there a way to have it remember the wireless password immediately or is this a known glitch... [01:18] ShackJack: n-m and gnome-keyring(i think thats the app) both are having issues atm [01:19] gnomefreak: O.K. I figured as much... At least I got my compiz fusion XGL working again... Was starting to have eye-candy withdrawl... [01:19] gnomefreak: My nm-applet is a little flakey about finding networks... [01:20] ShackJack: n-m since 2nd to last update wont log me or alot of others onto internet you have to disable networking than enable it again its know n to the new maintainer of n-m [01:21] it has toehr issues [01:21] other [01:21] ha and now for no reason i can maximize my terminals just fine :D [01:22] gnomefreak: Mine will get it on a fresh reboot (Intel Card), but sometimes flakey if switching networks or restarting dbus or dropping to init 1, etc... 'Sno biggie... I knew what I was in for upgrading to Gutsy so early on... Otherwise it's working really great... [01:22] gnomefreak, what are the implications of taking that network manager out entirely? [01:22] pimp31415: not a good idea IMHO [01:22] hehe ShackJack pretty impressive for an rc2 eh [01:22] gnomefreak, eh? [01:22] pimp31415: I'll say... [01:22] also why cant it come back when i kill the panel =/ [01:23] pimp31415: we had more issues in whatever we were using prior [01:23] gah fair-enough [01:23] well w/e we are approaching feisty's release stability >_> [01:23] damn : now what [01:23] ?? nothing here! [01:25] LP is having issues [01:26] Anyone else having issues with the libcurlX-gnutls packages (being kept back/dependencies, etc...)? [01:26] I was having libcurl issues yesterday, but haven't tried since then [01:26] man. [01:26] ShackJack: read the topic [01:26] I swear people don't read the topic I set. [01:26] ah ha~ in beryl with terminal server client it makes the screen not draw the guts of the terminal - close tsclient and your back to good to go - kinda gives true transperancy so to speak [01:26] crimsun: they are prompted to read it too [01:26] all they have to do is join the channel [01:26] oh, it's in the scrolled off the screen bit of the topic :) [01:27] ok, repeat after me: I will kindly read the topic. Thanks! [01:27] MugginsM: type /topic === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] ShackJack, yeah 3 and 4 - what are those for anyway? [01:28] crimsun: I do read it the first several times I join the channel.... however because the beginning of the text is always the same its understandable that folks don't read all the way through - figuring it's the same thing... I would suggest putting new info at the start of the topic text and of shortening the topic text... [01:28] *and/or [01:28] I will personally try to read it more carefully in the future ;) [01:29] we've tried that approach. People still don't read the blathering thing. [01:29] how about color bomb notices on entry [01:29] with a whitelist on who doesnt get it [01:30] ...or you could just read the fine topic. [01:30] and can i be in the whitelist please ^^ [01:30] [they they i did i did!!!:P] [01:31] and closing tsclient didnt fix my maximized terminal this time [01:31] gah lol [01:31] ooooooooo new terminals are good though... [01:34] o wow - cant drag my windows around at all - ever come across that one? === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tim__b [i=tim__b@draws.asciians.info] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:40] Is there an easy way to make my snd-emu10k1 not break suspend? === frying_fish_ [n=frying_f@ACCFB2C0.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:43] easy way-use feisty or wait for fix. a bit of a harder way - fix it? [01:45] Well, it's not new to Gutsy, actually. [01:46] I'd need the suspend scripts to eject the card and then remove the module -- but what if programs have a lock on the sound card? [01:46] I guess it's an "eaiser said than done" type of thing. [01:46] so THATS whats been doing it [01:46] lol [01:46] lol [01:46] ive been wondering - but i only suspend by accident so w/e [01:46] XD [01:48] I don't know if it's all of snd-emu10k1 that breaks suspend. [01:49] Hmm, I figured something out: now my battery life in Gutsy is almost exactly the same as in Windows. The exact times are probably 10 minutes from each other. [01:55] I wish there were an elegant way to say a person's name without pinging that person. Extra spaces works, but it is inelegant. [01:56] Like Dan*G? [01:57] pimp314*5... and gnomefre*k [02:01] mm DanaG how about shift-tabcomplete === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:01] or control-tab === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h177n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:02] just ask the guyz in Xchat if you use it they might make it D: [02:04] I use gaim/pidgin. [02:05] I wonder if it's possible to get DRI on an S3 Savage, at 1024x768, with only 4 megs of video RAM. [02:05] I doubt that's even enough VRAM for double-buffering. [02:05] what is dri? [02:06] ah i think i might be running into that kinda too many fullscreen windows open bug with beryl - mm seems third one is black lets try some others [02:06] Direct Rendering something-or-other. [02:06] I don't know what the I stands for. [02:07] yeah forth one is black [02:07] gah [02:07] That savage is in an old laptop nobody really uses anymore. [02:08] My main laptop has a GeForce Go 7600, but only 128 megs of VRAM. [02:08] Luckily it's only 1440x900 -- because 1680x1050 would probably exceed my available VRAM. [02:14] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=3893fa1e5c918f8f66fadcb979d79d55&p=1198600&postcount=12 === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:14] hey DanaG i think we need to upgrade =/ [02:14] DanaG, did you get the extra effects working at least then? [02:16] Oh, which extra effects? [02:16] pimp31415 is that the 'out of memory' error ? [02:16] system > preferences > appearance > last tab [02:16] mrsno__, who knows - i can open non-fullscreened windows with it going i think lemme double check - [02:16] os[Linux 2.6.22-7-386 - Debian lenny/sid - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )] | up[12 hours, 37 minutes] | cpu[AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, 1665.280 MHz (3333.56 bogomips) at 40.0C] | chipset[VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge] | video[nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1) at 1600x1200 (32 bits)] | opengl[GeForce 6200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! powered by NVIDIA Corporation with driver 2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.31] | xchat[Version [02:16] : 2.8.2] | [sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46] [02:17] i got that black windows / out of memory error in latest nvidia-glx-new, had to use envy to get the 100x series drivers [02:17] haven't tried desktop-effects/compiz-fusion yet [02:17] I'm using the 3v1n0 repo, because the official was broken last time I tried it. [02:18] oya i forgot that DanaG sorry - mrsno__ ah [02:18] i always put the nvidia stuff in manually lol === DanaG is now moving the Feisty old-laptop to Gutsy, just for the heck of it. [02:18] and i'm using the repo stuff - not even the nvidia.bin [02:19] yea it happened in nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new [02:19] well DanaG i think that even with all the new features, for the most part its getting less laggy [02:19] I'm using this: [02:19] [ 32.644000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 100.14.11 Wed Jun 13 18:21:22 PDT 2007 [02:19] Hotkey display switching works on my laptop -- but, it doesn't change resolution. [02:19] mrsno__, i get a different wierd error - sometimes when i type something into xchat it doesnt draw it to the window but instead half rrepeats the line above it that used to be at the bottom - posted a pic above [02:20] DanaG, how can i find that? [02:20] i dual boot xp/feisty i386 , can i upgrade feisty i386 to amd64 while preserving xp part (as in the way i installed i386)? [02:20] dmesg | grep NVRM [02:20] edgy / xp / gutsy / fedora / something new to be decided [02:20] [ 192.616000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9631 Thu Nov 9 17:38:10 PST 2006 [02:20] ptn107 you can chroot a 64bit installation but yes you can install ubuntu 64 fresh, overwriting the ubuntu 32 [02:21] DanaG, you had to put in manually or with envy or so? [02:21] sweet [02:21] ptn107, btw if your /home partititon is seperate it will keep all your settings [02:21] this channel is for gutsy really ptn107 , so if you have any questions please check in #ubuntu [02:21] yeah i have it separate [02:21] but if your worried about it make a different user on install, and add a user with the same name after you test it so it doesnt bork anything on the offhand and all [02:21] :) [02:22] o sorry thought i was on ub,. didnt see the +1 [02:22] ptn107 nps :-) [02:22] hehe ptn107 you should make a 6 gig partition and just install gutsy also :3 [02:22] just to play@! [02:22] ive already played around in tribe 2 [02:22] no complaints yet [02:23] i sorta missed tribe2, but tried a daily this week [02:23] ooooooooooo i wonder if my triple buffering is killing me [02:23] sweet ptn107 try to break it! [02:23] runs nice booting from a 4gig usb pen with desktop-effects all working with 1 X restart [02:23] i am [02:24] I did my nvidia manually. [02:24] Oh yeah, triple-buffering eats VRAM like crazy. [02:24] That's what it's supposed to do. [02:25] I don't have enough memory bandwidth to comfortably use triple-buffering. [02:26] oh [02:26] That's odd: the old laptop dropped from 39% battery to 0% battery. [02:26] i think i dont need that on then seeing as how my card is on the cheaper end of current stuff - only cost 46 bucks delivered tho from newegg so that was good :> [02:27] hey DanaG do you know a way offhand btw to turn off all cube stuff and make the desktop flat like gnome default? [02:28] Oh, you can use Wall instead. [02:28] o: === lymeca [n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-92-99.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voiici [n=voici@ip192.216.reserved.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nexous [n=chatzill@plns-208-111-228-119-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:31] If a user has an Nvidia card *and* they've installed the non-free Nvidia drivers for it, Compiz Fusion should be good to go. [02:32] lymeca, what about with the nvidia drivers? [02:32] But what about ATI cards? XGL won't be in X.Org so how will that work? [02:32] and do you get 3daccel? [02:33] gah and im sorry for such a silly question but DanaG where is Wall?? [02:33] With respect to Compiz Fusion being the default wm: Intel video cards with Free drivers are going to be fine, but what if the user has ATI card AND non-free drivers for 3D accel. How will CF work without XGL? [02:33] [i did look i promise :P] [02:38] Oh, it's a Desktop Management plugin. [02:39] o? [02:39] aah [02:40] i need to dl more plugins for beryl [02:42] It's a Fusion plugin. [02:42] Or maybe new-Compiz. [02:42] lymeca its on the wishlist [02:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/122939 [02:43] Launchpad bug 122939 in xserver-xgl "Ship X session files with xserver-xgl" [Wishlist,In progress] [02:43] Woah, I just set the Savage to use EXA. It's all psychedelic. [02:44] In both cases with ATI and Nvidia cards, the proprietary drivers won't be shipping with Gutsy. So COmpiz Fusion won't be the default wm. Will it be automated that if the user installs the proprietary drivers for their cards that CF will be enabled? [02:45] lymeca: it's just matter of clicking stuff in menu [02:45] actually twp things [02:46] 1) install proprietary drivers using tool [02:46] Will there be a new Preferences entry to choose between installed window managers? [02:46] 2) enable Compiz [02:46] not sure what you mean [02:47] lymeca at the moment there is "restricted drivers" menu option to manage loading the proprietary driver, i would assume using free ati radeon driver on a card that supports it = CF by default [02:47] the little testing i did, i installed nvidia drivers, restarted X and CF was running automatically, but not prior with the 'nv' driver of course === pimp31415_ [n=starz@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:53] well turning off the triple buffer didnt help on the black windows === samsara [n=phil@82-71-48-158.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu_ [n=arpu@chello080109078137.4.15.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:54] having seen the screenshots of DisplayConfigGTK, I wonder if it's already working - where would I get a current version for testing? [02:56] ubuntu doesn't maintain a testing repository like Debian, does it? [02:56] OMFGEEZ [02:56] ring!!! thats it! XD === ponicg [n=ponicg@ool-182cf76a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:56] What is dyntics? A kernel module, or is it another part of the OS? What benefit will it provide a laptop? === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-164-135-78.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:58] Wow, this old laptop literally bakes the cardbus cards -- they're right next to the CPU heatsink. [02:58] They end up burning-hot to the touch. [03:00] ok where do i go to do compiz fusion DanaG ? and do i need to take out beryl first? [03:00] Nope, you can leave Beryl. [03:01] For compiz-fusion, there are two choices: official Gutsy version, and unofficial 3v1n0 version. [03:01] If you use the latter repo, it's a good idea to go to Synaptic and lock the versions of beryl, emerald, and related packages. [03:02] mm ok i'll try repo first and go from there. [03:03] The later Beryl is broken. === BFrank [n=addos@dog.lost-habit.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] hey [03:04] why does firefox say this... [03:04] ***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[31556] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon... [03:05] Everything says it. It's a new warning to force developers to fix their apps. [03:06] firefox is unstable for me [03:06] at least on Gutsy [03:06] on FreeBSD, Firefox 2.0.0.4 is far more stable [03:06] damnit [03:07] just trying to download a file from a site, causes it to crash [03:09] it's pretty nasty here, too. [03:10] crap [03:10] firefox just dumped a backtrace in the terminal [03:11] why in the hell are so many apps running unstable on gutsy === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-58.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:12] ...because it's gutsy. [03:12] if you want a stable release, use a different release/distro. [03:12] gutsy is not for the faint of heart. [03:12] I mean, what happened under the hood? [03:12] it is still linux right? [03:12] stuff shouldn't just be crashing [03:13] a lot of things. New, relatively untested kernel, newer X.Org server/drivers, adjustments to various source packages, etc. [03:13] hmm [03:13] seriously, it's a _development_ branch. You had better well know it's going to explode in your face at some time or another. [03:14] well, I figured it would [03:14] but I didn't expect solid apps to just break unexpectedly [03:14] firefox 2.0.0.4 works great on feisty [03:14] it is odd that it is backtracing on gutsy [03:14] either way [03:14] I guess I gotta revert back [03:15] it's a completely different compilation [03:15] how could you possibly expect things to work identically? [03:15] hmm, I dunno, I guess I wasn't expect things to change so drastically that stuff broke === snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:18] You can manually downgrade Firefox. Just download the deb from a mirror, and sudo dpkg -i it. [03:18] You may also need to feed it the -gnome-support deb. [03:18] oh === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:22] register mercury1 === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === intelikey [n=UN-root@dialup-4.226.237.249.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle [n=tretle@213-202-130-205.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:27] i have a dapper that wont boot sense the last security linux-image update. depmod is borked. thus the initrd.img is unusable and seeing that it was just an update it overwrote the working initrd.img thoughts ? [03:28] can anyone help me do a full upgrade, im afraid things went t+ts up and i ended up doing a partial upgrade === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:28] intelikey this is for gutsy talk really, please check in #ubuntu [03:28] mrsno__ checked there for over an hour [03:28] intelikey i will answer in there :-) [03:29] ok; [03:29] cough cough :D === Danni [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:32] tretle, A "partial upgrade" is just a dist-upgrade, it is normal with development releases, if ubuntu-desktop got removed then re-install it [03:33] eh [03:33] theres sorta a problem there [03:34] i cant install from live cd because i cant get at the partition because of the bug with gparted [03:34] so i need to do an upgrade [03:35] i had gutsy running on my laptop before the cable broke and alot of the crashes im having in certain applications, like gimmie for example didnt happen on that machine [03:36] I think it was when it was updating the sources that the upgrade crashed [03:37] on source 34 or something like that [03:37] can i check somewhere if i have all the sources for gutsy? [03:38] sure tretle [03:39] where? :D [03:40] !pastebin [03:40] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:41] right how do i get to the sources list from terminal again :P :D [03:41] cat /etc/apt/sources.list [03:42] hmm, I miss the old sudo [03:42] you can also generate a sources.list on source o matic [03:42] old sudo? [03:42] Password: [03:42] what's the "new" sudo? [03:42] [sudo] Password for dana: [03:42] hm. [03:42] The brackets look so out of place. [03:43] where is a user was in both the admin and sudo group the you didn't need to put a password in [03:43] should be [03:43] sudo -- enter password for dana: [03:43] (long dash looks better to me.) [03:43] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28744/ === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:43] i agree about the sudo by the way :D [03:44] looks fine tretle , apart from maybe the 3rd party repositories for avant [03:44] they have feisty in the line [03:44] lol [03:45] ah a fellow irish person? :p [03:45] u sure, whats the difference between a partial upgrade and a full one so? [03:45] Irelend rules :D [03:45] Ireland [03:45] lol, you know what time it is [03:46] it sounds like maybe you partially upgraded? im not sure you tell me :) [03:46] aye gettin late/early [03:47] lol [03:48] damn, is there any way to do a full upgrade from withing the desktop environment without going through the live cd === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:49] live-cd is not for upgrades [03:49] i know [03:49] u know what i meant :D [03:50] as in is there any way i can perform a full upgrade now, becasue i cant install from the cd [03:50] from feisty? [03:50] you can dist-upgrade or use update-manager to completely upgrade to gutsy [03:51] sudo sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/' /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- is one way [03:51] nice [03:52] be ready to resolve some dependencies tho [03:52] ie: apt-get install Some-Held-Back-Package [03:53] yeah got a strange reply when i did that [03:54] pastebin here i come [03:54] :D === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:55] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28746/ [03:55] the libcurl makes some sense seeing as its one of gimmie's dependancies [03:57] so how do i fix this do u know? [03:58] tretle: yeah, I think that package is broke, same error here [03:58] any way of fixing it? [04:00] lol [04:00] right just saw the topic [04:00] my apologies [04:01] was the libcurl issues inclueded on the disc or did they come with an update? === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-49-185.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:04] the libcurl issues are post-Tribe 2. [04:05] so that would explain why gimmie worked on my laptop === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-164-154.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:06] I wish Ubuntu had a new-hardware-inserted sound effect. [04:06] why? lol [04:06] I wish ubuntu had conduit [04:06] hmmmmmmmmmmmm......... conduuuuiiiiit [04:06] lol [04:08] Hmm, ubufox.... [04:08] That's new. [04:10] well, sound has stoped working, better restart and see if that does anything.... Thanks for all the help guys... see you on the flip side :D === tretle [n=tretle@213-202-130-205.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-58.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:19] nn === Tired_1 [n=sjj@64-142-27-19.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:22] Does compiz/beryl work in Kubuntu Gutsy? Which packages are needed? [04:24] BTW, libgl1-mesa-dri wasn't installed by default on my box w/Radeon 9250 [04:24] Tired_1: I think you just need: beryl-kubuntu, beryl-manager and emerald-themes === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-03eea142b3bf53c9] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-166-231-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:30] Interesting message: ***MEMORY-WARNING***: beryl-manager[9787] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon. [04:30] whee! [04:31] Odd: the old laptop is giving me apport popups, but my modern one is not. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:42] What is dyntics? A kernel module, or is it another part of the OS? What benefit will it provide a laptop? [04:42] The kernel only runs interrupts when something requests them, so the CPU can spend more time in idle states. [04:42] hmm [04:42] I heard it makes laptops run cooler, true? === nickrud [n=nickrud_@216.112.213.2.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nickrud [n=nickrud_@216.112.213.2.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [04:43] I'm not sure -- I don't usually leave my laptop idle on AC. [04:44] But I'd imagine it would/ [04:44] . === stone-unix [n=chatzill@218.90.181.96] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:44] yes, it certainly does. [04:44] when i boot into 7.10, it keeps scrolling warning message: device-mapper, device lookup failed. anybody can help? [04:46] hi there [04:46] Same here for me -- but says "dm-linear". [04:46] DanaG: yes, dm-linear also appears [04:46] same issue i believe [04:47] no core member here in channel? === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:49] there are at least a couple. Why? [04:50] Oh, and for some reason only one of my two systems offers to file bug reports. [04:51] so i have to just wait and see? [04:51] torturing === Martinp23_ [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:51] "wait and see"? === stone-unix [n=chatzill@218.90.181.96] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:52] have you checked Launchpad for bug reports on dmsetup and ... [04:52] or you could just /part === crd1b [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-26a1c9c9081c3669] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:02] Oh, I'm just gonna remove evms. [05:02] I don't need it, I believe. [05:02] I use plain partitions. [05:02] correct [05:02] it hasnt been mandatory for ages === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu+1 === GuyFromHell [n=GuyFromH@c-24-128-122-132.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:08] I'm having issues loading into the gutsy live-cd. could I just sed repositories list and update from feisty? [05:09] GuyFromHell: that's what I did [05:09] stdin, awesome i'm gonna dl the feisty cd now and try that (assuming i crash again in my compy's current state... i'm fed up with it...) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:10] GuyFromHell: i would uninstall any non ubuntu packages you installed and make sure you have your -desktop package installed before you change repos [05:10] oh and comment out any non ubuntu repos [05:10] gnomefreak, i'd be going from a fresh install [05:10] ah ok [05:11] unless ubuntu can upgrade my gentoo :P [05:11] (i would also be very scared at that point) [05:11] its possible with alot of hacking but will never be supported ;) [05:12] oh joy, hacking ;) === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:12] GuyFromHell: grab a tribe 2 cd and do it that way :) [05:12] Hobbsee, the tribe2 cd won't load [05:12] you'll probably need to run "sudo ubiquity" instead of running the installer from the icon [05:13] GuyFromHell: where does it die? [05:13] i get a major kernel panic or something. completely unresponsive to anything short of a sysrq [05:13] just before KDM [05:13] ouch [05:14] the good ole' three finger salute doesn't even work at that point [05:14] it's weird though. at one point i heard the KDM startup sound [05:15] i wonder if a tribe 1 cd does that [05:15] someone else mentioned that, though. [05:15] they're going to debug it next week at the distro sprint, if he doesnt get it solved === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:17] Hobbsee, huh, looks like i could look forward to a working installer cd for a change [05:17] GuyFromHell: heh, yeah. [05:18] GuyFromHell: it's only the second milestone, too [05:20] y [05:21] ... that was supposed to be put into my terminal... [05:23] heh [05:25] mm ok i have no idea what's causing it === Hobbsee decides to finally play with apt [05:26] but in gnome where you can right click and do open with - it wont actually open whatever file with whatever application - though it will open with the default either by double click or right click and select [05:26] if i break it for anyone, i'd prefer to knwo about it *before* the tribe 3 comes up. [05:26] and the gnome panels do not let me put a menu onto them [05:26] lol Hobbsee [05:26] else i'll have to yell at myself :P === |ajmorris_| [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-58.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.0.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:32] hmmm. if i run a bzr update, i wonder if it will hose my uncommitted changes, or let me merge them... [05:32] oh good, it was up to date [05:32] anybody got a solution for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28752/ what should I do? === Hobbsee wonders how long apt takes to build, then. [05:33] probably a while [05:34] shirish: you can't do much, just don't update it [05:34] stdin: ok cool :) [05:36] erk. build deps === makuseru [n=max@210.113.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:37] it's kinda ironic, you need apt to get apts build-deps :p [05:38] yeah, which makes it kinda bad if you can make it segfault :P === Hobbsee dindt make it segfault, last time. [05:39] stdin: i've always wondered though - is there any way out, apart from a reinstall, if dpkg breaks? [05:39] i guess you could wget the fixed versions of the broken files, move htem to the correct locatoin, and do it that way... [05:40] heh sure Hobbsee [05:40] boot to live cd [05:41] well, no, because you couldnt even use a live cd for it [05:41] open a couple packages with archive manager and do the hard way [05:41] well debs are "current archives" IIRC, so "ar x package.deb" will unpack it, then untar the data.tar.gz should "install" it [05:41] [after mounting the dir] [05:41] XD [05:41] because if you chroot in, then you end up using the chrooted app [05:41] BAM [05:41] ive broken that before [05:41] try removing perl man [05:41] so yeah, you would have to literally actually move all the files [05:41] friggan horrifying [05:41] heh [05:42] isnt there a cp command that ignores dir;s? [05:42] yeah force write over em so to speak should work fine XD [05:42] cp ignores dirs by default [05:43] ya so extract and define where it should consider root or some such nonsense [05:43] but extract the thing first~! [05:43] mm actually yeah file roller from live cd on mounted /target should do it just fine [05:43] well, if you tried /usr/bin/dpkg first. everything else is probably OK [05:43] meh [05:43] depending where it's broken === pimp31415_ goes back to messing up someone elses wallpaper [05:43] of course - you should still be able to boot your system with no dpkg [05:43] well, a broken dpkg === Peptide [n=duarte@client-86-30-217-106.blfs.adsl.ntlworld.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:43] but how do you fix it [05:43] o [05:44] Hello... I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 and when I log in... the system takes a long time to try to connect to my network... is there anything I can do to speed up the process? [05:44] ic mebbie your file-roller or tar already still works === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee grumbles, and rebuilds apt [05:55] i thought this was supposed to build! === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:03] Woah, trying to compile "omnibook" kernel module for Gutsy: [06:03] I get an internal compiler error. === DerekS is now known as derekS === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15CF33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] aaahhhh [06:06] i LOVE gnome-art package <3 [06:06]