[10:23] <lapo> hi
[10:24] <Madpilot> greets
[07:23] <kwwii> weekend!
[07:24] <lapo> kwwii: not yet here :-/
[07:24] <lapo> :-)
[07:39] <troy_s> kwwii -- how goes Oxygen?
[07:42] <kwwii> troy_s: great, how are things with you?
[07:42] <troy_s> kwwii: Well gearing up.
[07:42] <troy_s> kwwii:  You?
[07:42] <kwwii> cool, new project?
[07:42] <troy_s> kwwii: Any divine messages from up on the mountain?
[07:43] <kwwii> been busy working on the mobile interface stuff
[07:43] <troy_s> kwwii: Mock?
[07:43] <kwwii> just that I should work more on getting the community involved :-)
[07:43] <troy_s> kwwii: lol.
[07:43] <troy_s> kwwii: He quashed that, he can eat that one too.
[07:44] <troy_s> kwwii: I don't think he respected how much effort it takes simply to motivate people to contribution levels.
[07:44] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/home_0.2-d.png shows where we are now
[07:44] <kwwii> well, at least nobody is blaming me for where we are now
[07:45] <troy_s> kwwii: My end is now - starting a new show, Fluxbuntu, _try_ to get work done on u2 for packaging etc., and possibly migrate down south to Mexico to be a creative prod. on a film.
[07:45] <troy_s> kwwii: Yeah but that isn't a great spot either.
[07:45] <kwwii> true
[07:45] <troy_s> kwwii: Avoiding hatemail == shit.
[07:45] <kwwii> sounds cool
[07:46] <troy_s> kwwii: Just look at good old Chris Bangle.
[07:46] <troy_s> kwwii: He has designed some _stellar_ stuff, and he falls into the lauded or vilified category.
[07:46] <troy_s> kwwii: Hell... google Z3 and see how much passion it generates.  lol.
[07:47] <kwwii> ;-)
[07:47] <troy_s> kwwii: So who is driving that phone?
[07:47] <kwwii> intel and us
[07:47] <troy_s> kwwii: It seems like it is treading into blogging nut stomping with the iPhone-likeness.
[07:47] <lapo> kwwii: I was asking on #oxygen about find and replace, have ou got something in the works for that action?
[07:47] <lapo> or any idea about the metaphor to use
[07:49] <kwwii> lapo: we have had a lot of discussion about those icons
[07:49] <kwwii> not sure what will happen in the end
[07:50] <lapo> kwwii: I love the binocular, we had some discussion about it as well
[07:50] <kwwii> hehe
[07:51] <kwwii> lots of others see that differently
[07:51] <lapo> kwwii: if I can find a nice metaphor for find and replace we will go for the binocular as well, so no more mess with zoom icons
[07:52] <troy_s> lapo: Nice work on the glyphs in Tango by the way, the evolution away from the multi-coloured home etc.
[07:53] <troy_s> kwwii: Those your glyphs on the phone in upper right?
[07:53] <lapo> troy_s: that's mostly jimmac merit
[07:53] <troy_s> lapo: It is a _wise_ decision.
[07:53] <troy_s> lapo: But you know where I sit on the bench of glyphwork.
[07:53] <lapo> yeah, I think that too
[07:54] <troy_s> lapo: Any chance that we are going to see all of those small icons turn to glyphs?
[07:57] <lapo> don't think so :-)
[07:58] <lapo> it's a desktop not a phone :-)
[07:59] <troy_s> lapo: Gah.
[07:59] <troy_s> lapo: You got all blue in the face when I suggested that very thing for the home glyph too ;)
[08:00] <lapo> troy_s: that's go-home tho, not user-home
[08:00] <troy_s> lapo: Bah.  Semantics.  Glyph those small useless and unappealing icons.  Period.
[08:00] <lapo> naah, I ike glyphs
[08:01] <troy_s> lol
[08:01] <troy_s> out boys... nice chat.
[08:01] <lapo> I'd prefer not having to use small icons at all, but we have to live with them for another good 4 or 5 years at least
[08:01] <troy_s> glyph em.
[08:31] <kwwii> I made the glyphs, yet :-)
[08:31] <kwwii> s/yet/yeah
[08:40] <nothlit`alpha> kwwii: the interface is turning out well :D, is that in pixmaps or svg?
[08:49] <kwwii> nothlit`alpha: that is made in inkscape :-)
[08:58] <nothlit`alpha> kwwii: whatchya do with the fingerprint? python script? tracer?
[09:15] <kwwii> I traced it with autotrace
[09:15] <kwwii> downloaded a gif somewhere
[09:31] <lapo> hi