| BenC | mjg59: it's part of a patchset I sent kyle for inclusion | 12:30 |
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| kylem | yeah, clearly it's all my fault. | 12:33 |
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| pkl_ | kylem: makes a change from being my fault :) | 12:34 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Is there any way to determine which patches were in feisty and aren't currently in gutsy? | 12:39 |
| BenC | kylem: wasn't pointing fingers, just letting him know that the patch wasn't lost | 12:40 |
| BenC | mjg59: yeah, it's basically the file I sent to kyle | 12:40 |
| BenC | mjg59: forwarded to you | 12:41 |
| mjg59 | Thanks | 12:41 |
| BenC | mjg59: when is toshiba_acpi stuff going to get into mainline? :) | 12:44 |
| mjg59 | 23 | 12:44 |
| Nafallo | kylem: I've bought the laptop earlier this evening. will let you know how the Intel-stuff works out :-) | 12:44 |
| kylem | Nafallo, if it doesn't work, it's my job to make it, so feel free to ping me | 12:45 |
| Nafallo | kylem: I know, and I will :-) | 12:45 |
| BenC | mjg59: cool, thanks | 12:45 |
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| zul_ | BenC: ping | 12:54 |
| BenC | zul_: yo | 12:54 |
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| zul_ | BenC: there is problem in the i386 config PAE is not enabled the hypervisor needs that or it will a kernel mismatch when booting | 12:55 |
| BenC | pkl_: ^^ | 12:55 |
| zul_ | freaking nickserv | 12:56 |
| mjg59 | Haven't we been over the PAE on i386 thing many, many times before? | 12:59 |
| BenC | mjg59: this is a xen specific config/flavour | 12:59 |
| BenC | at least I hope that's what zul meant | 12:59 |
| zul_ | yep it is | 12:59 |
| zul_ | besides its the generic flavour renamed i386 | 01:00 |
| BenC | sure you wouldn't rather use -server redone for -xen? | 01:00 |
| BenC | -server already has PAE | 01:00 |
| zul_ | arent there drivers missing from -server? | 01:01 |
| BenC | no, right now it's basically -generic with HZ=100 and no preempt | 01:01 |
| BenC | plus a little bump is cpu target (686 as opposed to 586) | 01:01 |
| zul_ | doesnt matter to me then | 01:02 |
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| zul_ | oh when are those policies going to be on the wiki? | 01:04 |
| Nafallo | zul_: are you doing openvz btw? :-) | 01:04 |
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| zul_ | Nafallo: no | 01:05 |
| Nafallo | zul_: you got any idea if someone is? :-) | 01:05 |
| zul_ | Nafallo: probably the openvz guys, i really dont have time for it 2 virtualizations are enough for me | 01:06 |
| Nafallo | zul_: sounds sensible enough :-) | 01:07 |
| Nafallo | I might need it for work, but I hope I can avoid maintaining a patchset :-P | 01:07 |
| pkl_ | zul_ bummer | 01:10 |
| pkl_ | zul_: the config.generic flavour has HIGHMEM4G and not CONFIG_X86_PAE. I made sure the config matched that. Why isn't that appropriate? | 01:11 |
| kylem | xen only supports pae, afaik. | 01:12 |
| pkl_ | kylem/zul_: so the xen flavour with PAE will only run on the server kernel? | 01:13 |
| zul_ | pkl_: you CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G enabled | 01:13 |
| zul_ | pae is default you can build it without pae but it would suck | 01:13 |
| pkl_ | zul_: sorry, just checked, I had CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G | 01:14 |
| zul_ | pkl_: yep no probs | 01:15 |
| BenC | pkl_: xen guest kernels only run under a xen dom0 kernel, and I think it's dom0 that needs pae | 01:15 |
| zul_ | yep | 01:15 |
| kylem | anyway, bob dylan. l8rs. | 01:16 |
| zul_ | oh yes bluesfest have fun | 01:16 |
| BenC | but since the xen/config.i386 is both dom0 and domU, just make that config PAE and we're good | 01:16 |
| BenC | kylem: later | 01:16 |
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| pkl_ | zul_: adding HIGHMEM64G/X86_PAE is no problem. | 01:17 |
| zul_ | pkl_: thanks | 01:17 |
| pkl_ | zul_: in your patch you had both -pae and non pae i386.configs, and so I figured no-pae configs worked on xen. | 01:18 |
| zul_ | they do if the dom0 is built without pae | 01:19 |
| zul_ | we had both in feisty | 01:19 |
| pkl_ | zul_: the xen/config.i386 config is both dom0 and domU? And so it would work with no pae? | 01:20 |
| zul_ | its bit dom0 and domU but dom0 needs PAE in order to boot | 01:21 |
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| pkl_ | Seems like non PAE support in xen was scheduled to go away in 3.1. | 02:10 |
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| zul | pkl_: correct but distros such as fedora and opensuse still supports it | 02:15 |
| pkl_ | zul: yeah, but I couldn't remember having to use a PAE enabled dom0. You were saying dom0 had to be PAE enabled. | 02:17 |
| zul | which kernel did you use? | 02:18 |
| zul | sorry crabby baby | 02:18 |
| zul | dom0 is pae enabled by default under 3.1 | 02:20 |
| pkl_ | zul: I haven't played about with xen for many years. 2004/2005? When was it first released? It seemed something interesting when it got first released, but I never got time to play around with it afterwards. | 02:20 |
| zul | ah well you probably used the defaults but anyways.. | 02:21 |
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| pkl_ | zul: maybe, but a google brings up many instances of non PAE dom0/domU usage. | 02:24 |
| zul | pkl_: try it out and see :) | 02:26 |
| zul | brb | 02:28 |
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| zul | pkl_: ie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-source-2.6.17/+bug/65096 | 02:35 |
| pkl_ | zul: yeah, but that's because there was a mismatch between dom0 and domU, dom0 was PAE, and domU wasn't. He was using the server flavour. | 02:38 |
| zul | you can use the dom0 kernel as a domU kernel, thats the way we do it and debian does the same way now | 02:40 |
| zul | thats the way weve done it since edgy as well | 02:40 |
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| pkl_ | zul: I can't see where this pissing contest is going to be honest. I said I'd update the config to use PAE. My comments afterwards was just to try and prove I'n not a complete idiot. Idiot maybe, but not a complete one. | 02:43 |
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| calc | BenC: here still? | 05:45 |
| calc | BenC: i have the oops | 05:45 |
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| calc | BenC: i emailed you the oops output | 05:50 |
| calc | BenC: going to fsck my disk now | 05:50 |
| calc | BenC: showed as clean and oops the same after reboot and apt-get dist-upgrade attempt again | 06:19 |
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| yulin | Question: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20/ differences between 2.6.20-mm1 and 2.6.20-mm2, maybe the difference between -mm1 and -mm2? | 07:53 |
| crimsun | come again? | 07:54 |
| yulin | 2.6.20-mm1 and 2.6.20-mm2 are directory in the http: directory | 07:54 |
| crimsun | what are you attempting? | 07:56 |
| crimsun | if you simply want to see a diff between the two, just grab http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20/2.6.20-mm1/2.6.20-mm1.bz2 and http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20/2.6.20-mm2/2.6.20-mm2.bz2 and use interdiff(1) | 07:57 |
| yulin | sorry, my xchat has some problem in show text, wait for a moment, i change to weechat. | 07:57 |
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| yulin | i am back | 07:58 |
| yulin | can you resend you msg? | 07:58 |
| crimsun | if you simply want to see a diff between the two, just grab http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20/2.6.20-mm1/2.6.20-mm1.bz2 and http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20/2.6.20-mm2/2.6.20-mm2.bz2 and use interdiff(1) | 07:58 |
| yulin | ok | 07:59 |
| yulin | the patches in the two packages organized by what? time? effect? branch? | 08:01 |
| yulin | our product will use 2.6.20 kernel for several monthes, but we often faced new hardwares such as southbridge, chipset, should i use the patches in -mm? | 08:05 |
| yulin | Now i used the kernel source from feisty, where i can get the patch of ubuntu-kernel? | 08:07 |
| crimsun | we don't carry broken-out patches. Please see http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ | 08:14 |
| yulin | ok, i will git. | 08:19 |
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| Kano | hi | 06:14 |
| Kano | how about adding aufs, thats more stable then unionfs | 06:14 |
| Kano | also 2 little kernel packages that only add new pci ids would be nice to have, now i always need to patch the source | 06:16 |
| Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/kernel-update-pack/source/2.6.20-via-quirks.patch | 06:16 |
| Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/kernel-update-pack/source/t-sinus_111card-2.6.16.diff | 06:17 |
| mjg59 | Kano: What does the first patch do? | 06:17 |
| Kano | well thats the intel pci id of the via southboard fix | 06:17 |
| Kano | in the kernel right now are only the amd boards, but the problem happens on the intel version too. | 06:18 |
| Kano | the fix works fine, just needs to be enabled | 06:19 |
| mjg59 | Kano: Do you have a reference for the requirement? | 06:19 |
| Kano | a similar thing for the 2nd patch. it only adds another pcmcia card | 06:20 |
| Kano | ask locsmif | 06:20 |
| Kano | on oftc.net | 06:20 |
| Kano | he needed it | 06:20 |
| mjg59 | Kano: It would be helpful to have a complete description of the issue | 06:21 |
| Kano | it is just the same issue like the well known via southbrigde bug | 06:21 |
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| Kano | just for the via chipset for intel cpus | 06:22 |
| Kano | it is needed just for those board without bios update | 06:23 |
| Kano | the 2nd patch is confirmed too by Adapter45 (online on this server) | 06:29 |
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