[01:17] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: be careful using the name junk
[01:17] <gnomefreak> there are junk projects (if you wan tto get rid of a branch you assign it to +junk or junk cant remember
[01:25] <gnomefreak> btw firefox needs to start opening in tabs
[01:28] <gnomefreak> i hate LP now
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: how can I rename my project, probably in LP
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> why do you hate it now btw
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago_> gnomefreak: if its on code.launchpad.net/~freddymartinez/+junk it should be fine no?
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago_> after all, people will need to know its freddymartinez and who I am to check it out
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago_> i'm editing the wiki pages now, looking to more or less streamline the pages.
[04:39] <Admiral_Chicago_> the bugs page for example, could be less pages and not so many subpages
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago_>  /tags, /states, etc
[04:58] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago_: should be fine just thought i would let you know
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago_> ah
[09:23] <asac> morning
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there asac
[09:34] <asac> hey ... still away ;)
[09:34] <asac> ?
[09:37] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: did your bzr branch work out well?
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> yes it did
[09:49] <asac> great
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, I have to work on packaging some more today i think
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: btw, i've started some work on the wiki pages.
[10:20] <asac> good good ... i have a new idea on howto improve our bug overview :)
[10:21] <asac> its like ... producing summaries of bug duplicate clusters
[10:21] <asac> e.g. look at master bugs and produce a summary of all duplicates
[10:22] <asac> my idea is to parse out the info of each bugs summary entry
[10:22] <asac> and put them on one page
[10:22] <asac> so for a top-crash we can see all initial reporter comments on one page
[10:22] <asac> hopefully being able to get a better idea on how to reproduce
[10:23] <asac> hehe
[10:23] <asac> late i know ... and early for me
[10:23] <asac> not a good mix :)
[10:23] <Admiral_Chicago> definetly no
[10:23] <Admiral_Chicago> not*
[10:24] <asac> lets see
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i understand I think
[10:25] <asac> bug 91519
[10:25] <asac> has 2 duplicates
[10:25] <asac> we would get a summary like:
[10:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91519 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@~nsCOMPtr_base]  [@~nsInstallInfo]  [@nsSoftwareUpdate::InstallJarCallBack] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91519
[10:25] <asac> bug 91519 - "MASTER Firefox Crash [@~nsCOMPtr_base]  [@~nsInstallInfo]  [@nsSoftwareUpdate::InstallJarCallBack] "
[10:26] <asac>   - just did a upgrade on kubuntu to feisty
[10:26] <asac>   - Firefox crash downloading extension
[10:26] <asac> After downloadind "Download them all" extension plugin firefox crashed. Yesterdad that plugin was completely undownloadable.
[10:26] <asac>   - no comment
[10:26] <asac> :)
[10:27] <asac> i don't know if this should be done by bughelper ... or maybe just by a greasemonkey script
[10:27] <asac> that goes through all duplicates and injects the content to the main bug page
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> oh. I see
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, seems like something to discuss with the bug team
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> this would ba a headache if people mark as dups things that aren't
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i think parsing LP and dumping to a wiki is a better idea
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> that could be done easily in Python by someone like red_herring
[10:54] <asac> hmm
[10:54] <asac> don't really see the difference ... whatever way ... getting a summary of summaries might be beneficial :)
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i think there is a big difference.
[10:55] <asac> where?
[10:55] <asac> i mind be too dump in the morning :)
[10:57] <asac> s/mind/might/
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i think by doing something wiki style we can sort out common lines
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> == bug xone [10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> [10:57] <asac> ah ok
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> [10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> !@~nscomp
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nscomp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <asac> and each subsection gets the summary?
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, and this way we can all easily edit comments, LP doesn't let you delete comments (yet_
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> so when I screw up, it won't be so bad
[11:03] <asac> hmm
[11:03] <asac> no i don't mean to add it persistently
[11:04] <asac> its just that you provide a summary on that site
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[11:53] <asac> gnomefreak: debian bug 297293
[11:53] <ubotu> Debian bug 297293 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: profiles imported from (older) mozilla mailnews might fail to copy mail to Sent-Folder" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/297293
[11:53] <asac> received a reply
[11:54] <asac> gnomefreak: .... you can close it :)
[12:19] <bluekuja> asac: do you have a min for a merge?
[12:19] <bluekuja> :)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> its fixed?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> how the hell do you close debian bugs :(
[12:26] <asac> gnomefreak: by mail
[12:27] <gnomefreak> using something like status: closed <reason>?
[12:27] <asac> bluekuja: i have the feeling that its more than a minute
[12:27] <asac> bluekuja:  :)
[12:27] <asac> gnomefreak: close is deprecated
[12:27] <asac> gnomefreak: look at bugs.debian.org
[12:27] <asac> there is doc
[12:27] <gnomefreak> k
[12:27] <asac> its simple
[12:31] <gnomefreak> nnn-done@debian.org is the nnn the bug number?
[12:31] <asac> yeah
[12:31] <gnomefreak> and i dont see a reason on bug why its being closed?
[12:31] <asac> if you know that it has been fixed in a specific version
[12:31] <asac> you can add
[12:32] <asac> Version: 1.4.5-3
[12:32] <asac> as first line
[12:32] <asac> with two line feeds after
[12:32] <asac> gnomefreak: you can include reason in mail
[12:32] <asac> just send mail to nnn-done@bugs.debian.org
[12:32] <asac> add Version line (if applicable - this time its not applicable)
[12:32] <asac> then add comment why its closed
[12:32] <asac> done
[12:33] <asac> send the mail and its closed
[12:33] <gnomefreak> have you uploaded a fix for it?
[12:33] <asac> no
[12:33] <bluekuja> asac: lol
[12:33] <asac> we don't know the version
[12:33] <bluekuja> asac: believe me, is a minute
[12:33] <bluekuja> :)
[12:33] <asac> so you can just send to -done
[12:33] <asac> bluekuja: its already 10 minutes :) ... counting
[12:33] <bluekuja> :D
[12:33] <bluekuja> was eating
[12:33] <bluekuja> :)
[12:34] <bluekuja> asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/balsa/+bug/124330
[12:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124330 in balsa "Merge balsa (2.3.17-1) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 
[12:34] <gnomefreak> asac: i need a reason to close it  or is the reason becasue he cant reproduce?
[12:34] <asac> gnomefreak: i have to do the nspluginwrapper merge in bzr
[12:34] <asac> otherwise i cannot get this back in sync
[12:34] <asac> in future we should not do debdiffs ... if its in bzr
[12:34] <asac> its a pita
[12:34] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah you can answer on the mail he send ... modify bug address
[12:34] <asac> (to -done)
[12:35] <asac> and say "thanks for the info ... closing."
[12:35] <asac> please don't just send ... but answer on the mail he send so it doesn't break threads for me
[12:37] <bluekuja> asac: diff ok?
[12:38] <asac> bluekuja: if its in bzr ... then no :)
[12:38] <asac> otherwise yes
[12:38] <bluekuja> bzr?
[12:38] <bluekuja> why?
[12:39] <bluekuja> anyway it's not in bzr
[12:39] <bluekuja> ^^
[12:39] <asac> because bzr causes headaches
[12:39] <bluekuja> lol
[12:39] <asac> if its a new debian merge
[12:39] <asac> the merge should be done in bzr properly then
[12:39] <bluekuja> anyway no, it's not in bzr
[12:39] <bluekuja> ;)
[12:40] <bluekuja> (i'm talking about balsa)
[12:40] <bluekuja> it builds correctly
[12:40] <asac> what is balsa?
[12:40] <bluekuja> the merge
[12:40] <asac> something sound related?
[12:40] <bluekuja> I told you about
[12:40] <bluekuja> ooh
[12:40] <bluekuja> mm
[12:41] <asac> do you know what it does ... do you know how to test?
[12:41] <bluekuja> it's a mail client
[12:41] <bluekuja> test what?
[12:41] <asac> test if it works
[12:42] <asac> and if what debian claims to be fixed is really fixed
[12:42] <asac> (if they claim something at all)
[12:42] <bluekuja> it's an upstream release
[12:42] <bluekuja> in debian
[12:42] <gnomefreak> bug 297293
[12:43] <asac> debian bug 297293
[12:43] <ubotu> Debian bug 297293 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: profiles imported from (older) mozilla mailnews might fail to copy mail to Sent-Folder" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/297293
[12:44] <gnomefreak> oh thats the one i jsut did
[12:44] <bluekuja> asac: why these questions for a merge?
[12:44] <asac> because imo it makes no sense to merge something you don't test
[12:45] <asac> i will raise that soon ... because i have the feeling that most merges are done that way in universe
[12:45] <asac> and that is plain bad
[12:45] <bluekuja> usually
[12:45] <bluekuja> MOTUs does not check
[12:45] <bluekuja> debian package
[12:45] <asac> yeah ... that has to change imo
[12:45] <bluekuja> yea
[12:45] <asac> i mean we cannot prevent people from not checking
[12:45] <bluekuja> yea
[12:45] <asac> but we have to remember them that they don't do merges for the sake of having somthing that builds
[12:46] <asac> but for having something that works
[12:46] <bluekuja> yup
[12:46] <bluekuja> asac: anyway that's an upstream release
[12:46] <bluekuja> so nothing
[12:46] <bluekuja> that is fixed
[12:46] <bluekuja> et all
[12:47] <asac> yes ... but does it work at all :)
[12:47] <asac> ?
[12:47] <bluekuja> asac: e.g builds?
[12:47] <bluekuja> or application
[12:48] <asac> i thought we just talked about what matters
[12:48] <asac> (for me) :)
[12:49] <bluekuja> lol
[12:49] <bluekuja> :D
[12:49] <bluekuja> wanted to be sure
[12:49] <bluekuja> ^^
[12:49] <bluekuja> oh damn
[12:49] <asac> bluekuja: builds is a prerequisities of works
[12:50] <bluekuja> 5 mins and work
[12:50] <bluekuja> :/
[12:50] <bluekuja> up
[12:50] <bluekuja> *yup
[12:50] <asac> that is not a problem
[12:50] <bluekuja> for me yes
[12:50] <bluekuja> lol
[12:50] <asac> just drop info when you are ready ... application is build-tested and tested to work :)
[12:50] <bluekuja> I dont like working
[12:50] <bluekuja> :P
[12:50] <asac> yeah ... my condolesence ... working can suck :)
[12:50] <bluekuja> hehehe
[12:50] <bluekuja> yeah
[12:51] <bluekuja> that's it
[12:51] <bluekuja> asac: when I'm back, gonna install it
[12:51] <bluekuja> and test
[12:51] <bluekuja> then ping you
[12:51] <bluekuja> and then party
[12:51] <bluekuja> ^^
[12:52] <bluekuja> asac: are you away too this night?
[12:53] <bluekuja> e.g party
[12:53] <asac> no idea
[12:53] <asac> maybe
[12:53] <asac> most likely cinema
[12:53] <asac> so not really party :)
[12:54] <bluekuja> cinema is cool too
[12:54] <bluekuja> :)
[12:54] <asac> but i have to relax ... e.g. no compuer ... next week will be hard enough
[12:54] <bluekuja> :)
[12:54] <bluekuja> I leave
[12:54] <bluekuja> lot of work this afternoon
[12:54] <bluekuja> :/
[12:54] <bluekuja> cya later
[01:12] <gnomefreak> debian bug 405585
[01:12] <ubotu> Debian bug 405585 in iceape "iceape fails to save preferences for "general.skins.selectedSkin"" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/405585
[01:15] <asac> hmm
[01:15] <asac> do we have that too?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> someone just reported it and i cant get debians bug to take on our report
[01:33] <asac> he?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 124365
[01:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124365 in Debian "Iceape-Browser: Theme setting reverts on restart" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124365
[01:33] <asac> if that is the upstream bug for us ... just set it as upstream
[01:33] <gnomefreak> i marked it as a debian bug but wrong bug now i cant get right bug in there
[01:34] <gnomefreak> so use upstream with debians bug report?
[01:34] <asac> just set remote bug tracker
[01:34] <asac> to debian ... and set bug id
[01:34] <gnomefreak> cant
[01:34] <asac> of course you can
[01:34] <gnomefreak> if you do it wont open
[01:34] <asac> he?
[01:34] <asac> it will automatically do that
[01:34] <asac> on next run
[01:34] <asac> just set it properly
[01:34] <asac> and done
[01:35] <asac> the bug id is already correct
[01:35] <gnomefreak> look at it now
[01:35] <asac> yeah launchpad is broken
[01:35] <asac> next time do it right ;)
[01:36] <asac> ask on launchpad
[01:36] <gnomefreak> this is the bug # that is correct. opent he bug id in debian line
[01:36] <asac> #launchpad
[01:36] <asac> ok i added a new upstream
[01:36] <gnomefreak> debian bug 405748
[01:37] <ubotu> Debian bug 405748 in iceape-browser "iceape-browser: theme selection reset to classic" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/405748
[01:37] <asac> you did use distribution
[01:37] <asac> not upstream
[01:37] <gnomefreak> is what the bug should be set to
[01:37] <gnomefreak> asac: its not upstream is it?
[01:37] <asac> its upstream
[01:37] <gnomefreak> since we use upstream tarball
[01:37] <asac> anyway now its again wrong
[01:37] <asac> fix it please
[01:37] <asac> i used the bug id you pasted
[01:38] <gnomefreak> and you used the wrong bug number
[01:38] <asac> i used the one you intiially pasted
[01:39] <asac> but its the same bug
[01:39] <gnomefreak> look up 10 lines see debian bug 405748
[01:39] <ubotu> Debian bug 405748 in iceape-browser "iceape-browser: theme selection reset to classic" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/405748
[01:39] <asac> so why bother?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> asac: thats why i was trying to change it
[01:39] <asac> yes you pasted that too late
[01:39] <gnomefreak> the first bug i gave was closed
[01:39] <gnomefreak> not very helpful being closed
[01:39] <asac> debian bug 405585
[01:39] <ubotu> Debian bug 405585 in iceape "iceape fails to save preferences for "general.skins.selectedSkin"" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/405585
[01:39] <asac> its open
[01:39] <asac> so whats theproblem?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Then, I'll just close this bug.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mike
[01:40] <asac> ok i fixed the debian target
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:40] <asac> it just worked
[01:41] <asac> probably launchpad was down orsomething
[01:41] <asac> i  set  upstream target to invalid again now
[01:41] <gnomefreak> close upstream now?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[01:41] <asac> yes
[01:41] <gnomefreak> i still cant reproduce this at all
[01:42] <asac> in debian bug there is probably a workaround?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> no i didnt see one
[01:44] <asac> chrome.rdf broken
[01:44] <asac> let user attach his
[01:44] <asac> from profile
[01:45] <asac> gnomefreak: ok nspluginwrapper pushed
[01:45] <gnomefreak> i guess you tested :)
[01:45] <asac> i had to edit a bit because i had to do that in bzr
[01:45] <asac> no
[01:45] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:45] <asac> have no amd64 at hand
[01:45] <asac> anyway ... i added info that i sponsored to changelog
[01:45] <asac> so if it breaks blame me
[01:46] <asac> as i modified your debdiff byhand et al
[01:46] <asac> so i could apply it to bzr
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ty if it breaks its still not your fault
[01:46] <asac> remember me never to ask for debdiff on bzr maintained software again :)
[01:46] <gnomefreak> than it is your fault :) how would you like it ?
[01:46] <asac> we now have a debian branch as well
[01:46] <asac> so we can update that and then merge changes that happened over at debian by bzr merge
[01:47] <asac> ...e.g. like i did now
[01:47] <gnomefreak> that makes merging a bit easier
[01:47] <asac> gnomefreak: for bzr the best is to do the merge locally ... bring it up on private branch and tell maintainer, that your merge is available from there
[01:47] <asac> yeah
[01:48] <asac> anyway ... the tricky stuff remained ... e.g. that we had changes against a file ... that upstream directly applied to a patch
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yeah
[01:48] <asac> anyway ... now all should be on track and future merges should be even more easier
[01:48] <asac> otherwise the merge went well with bzr
[01:48] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[01:48] <asac> just had to setup a debian branch :)
[01:48] <asac> which i previously didn't ;)
[01:49] <asac> gnomefreak: if you get build errors let me know :)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> i cant build it
[01:49] <gnomefreak> wont let me build binaries
[01:50] <gnomefreak> and it lets me know when they start to build (i assume it got htat far its good)
[01:51] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[01:57] <gnomefreak> asac: is that your n-m push that i just got update for?
[01:57] <asac> yesterday?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> you might have pushed it yesterday
[01:58] <gnomefreak> its ubuntu6?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> i filied bug report yesterday on n-m
[01:59] <asac> ok its seb
[01:59] <asac> hope he pushed to bzr as well
[01:59] <gnomefreak> reboot == no network i have to click it uncheck enable network and than enable it again :(
[01:59] <asac> gnomefreak: no changes
[01:59] <gnomefreak> no changes?
[01:59] <asac> so no need to try
[01:59] <asac> nothing that can be of any relevance
[01:59] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:00] <asac> its just something for build systems
[02:01] <gnomefreak> did -trunk build?
[02:02] <asac> gnomefreak: it definitly build ... but i won't push it ... haven't tested if it also crashes ... its just for me to track down when the regression occurs
[02:02] <gnomefreak> k
[02:02] <asac> the idea was to begin to maintain a weekly builds in gutsy ... so we can track such things down more easily in future
[02:05] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[02:06] <asac> gnomefreak: you should remember to checkin and publish bzr whenever you upload trunk
[02:07] <asac> i had to add a changelog entry on my own
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago_> hey there DarkSun88
[02:07] <asac> or is that pushed to ~gnomefreak?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> asac: did you push?
[02:07] <asac> and i just took wrong one?
[02:07] <asac> i don't push anything
[02:07] <gnomefreak> i pushed to mozillateam
[02:07] <asac> and i won't
[02:07] <gnomefreak> i havent made a personal branch yet
[02:07] <asac> yeah ... but you did not have a commit for the 0628 release
[02:07] <asac> so i had to fiddle around
[02:08] <asac> so remember ... evertime upload ... you need a changelog commit for that
[02:08] <gnomefreak> thought you pushed the 28 release
[02:08] <gnomefreak> asac: i will
[02:08] <asac> gnomefreak: i will not push anything from the past
[02:08] <asac> unless others need to test
[02:08] <asac> gnomefreak: great
[02:08] <gnomefreak> what day are you leaving for sprint week/
[02:08] <asac> sunday
[02:08] <asac> saturday return
[02:09] <gnomefreak> anything you need done for next week?
[02:09] <asac> but i will take the weekend off when i return i guess
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> DarkSun88: hmm, you're a member, got a link to your wiki?
[02:10] <asac> hmm ... you mean for the beginning of next week ... or for the end of next week?
[02:10] <DarkSun88> Admiral_Chicago: One moment.
[02:10] <asac> anyway ... don't have much in mind ... except finding this damn sunbird issue
[02:10] <asac> and finishing my specs :)
[02:10] <DarkSun88> Admiral_Chicago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MicheleAngrisano
[02:10] <gnomefreak> asac: things that should be done for when you return
[02:11] <asac> ah ... yeah figure out when regression appeared in trunk
[02:11] <asac> but lets see if this build works
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> looking
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> DarkSun88: i've seen this wiki page before, when did you get membership?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: yes DarkSun88 is a member
[02:12] <gnomefreak> they were approved
[02:12] <DarkSun88> 2007-05-29
[02:12] <DarkSun88> gnomefreak: :)
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i could tell from the cloak
[02:13] <asac> gnomefreak: damn the build failed because apparently the orig was truncated
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i actually just update my wiki, so I should be good for a while. Still have another year and a half at least
[02:13] <asac> e.g. upload aborted
[02:13] <asac> don't ask me why
[02:14] <asac> my tarball is too small
[02:14] <gnomefreak> asac: what one?
[02:14] <asac> maybe connection reset
[02:14] <asac> 0628
[02:14] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[02:14] <asac> let me repull
[02:14] <asac> and sping
[02:14] <gnomefreak> asac: what revision are you pulling?
[02:15] <asac> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/source/firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070628.orig.tar.gz
[02:15] <asac> thats the idea
[02:16] <asac> 31MB ... mine was just 27
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:16] <asac> what happened :)
[02:16] <asac> hmm
[02:16] <asac> ok  ... should be there in a minute
[02:41] <gnomefreak> seems the sources are messed up in the repo
[02:44] <gnomefreak> i cant even extract the .dsc
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> speaking of packaging, i'm having some issues here too
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well, thats okay
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll have to figure it out soon
[02:49] <gnomefreak> im off to go to meeting ill be back in a few hours
[02:50] <gnomefreak> asac: its the source that was uploaded to mt repo that is wrong im grabbing from bzr and we will see what happens
[02:50] <asac> gnomefreak: which sources?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> the 20070628
[02:50] <asac> the orig looks good
[02:51] <gnomefreak> the diff is off and that is blocking the .dsc from extracting
[02:51] <asac> unfortunatley you need to modify a lot because we have no revision for that build
[02:51] <asac> yes ... you don't need thediff
[02:51] <asac> gnomefreak: you don't need to build that anyway
[02:51] <asac> i will test later
[02:51] <asac> pleas go for new builds ;)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> if i rm the .diff the .dsc fails to extract with error no diff
[02:51] <asac> in case this issue is *just resolved
[02:52] <asac>  usptream
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ill work on it when i get home ill start the latest upstream build
[02:52] <gnomefreak> k out for now
[02:53] <asac> sure ... take care
[02:53] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: do you use cdbs
[02:53] <asac> or debhelper?
[02:53] <asac> (pure debhelper that is)
[02:55] <Admiral_Chicago> dh_make
[02:55] <asac> ok so pure debhelper
[02:55] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: i wouldn't use dh_make in the long run
[02:55] <asac> just to get an initial template
[02:55] <Admiral_Chicago> ya, i think i'm going to try something different
[02:55] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: just use cdbs
[02:55] <asac> its plain straight forward
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> goodness, I just grabbed some source from a guy to package, its aweful..
[02:56] <asac> and there are plugins
[02:56] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: is it C or what?
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> sec, taking a call
[03:03] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: take a look at the bzr repo freddymartinez9@bazaar.launchpad.net/~freddymartinez9/+junk/main/
[03:03] <Admiral_Chicago> its the magnify project
[03:04] <asac> can i still branch it?
[03:05] <Admiral_Chicago> should be able to
[03:06] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: its empty :)
[03:07] <asac> probably junk stuff gets removed in batches ;)
[03:07] <asac> at least its not in http
[03:07] <asac> and cannot access that path by sftp
[03:07] <asac> maybe you can resurrect it in lp ?
[03:08] <Admiral_Chicago> yea, looking now
[03:08] <asac> note: its empty ... but i could branch
[03:08] <asac> so its somehow existing ... unless +junk/* is a zero archive script :)
[03:09] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: hmmm
[03:09] <asac> it branches 3 revisions
[03:09] <asac> but is empty
[03:09] <asac> :)
[03:09] <asac> lets see
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> what about code.launchpad.net/~freddymartinez9/+junk/main
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> odd, Mario was able to grab it earlier today
[03:10] <asac> both should work
[03:11] <asac> .bzr directory is 2.7m
[03:11] <asac> so its in there
[03:11] <asac> however
[03:11] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28796/
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> looking...
[03:12] <asac> for meit looks like its a repo checkout
[03:12] <asac> hmm
[03:12] <asac> lets branch it from here
[03:12] <asac> again
[03:14] <asac> ok
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> odd, i have my branch as commited 12 minutes ago on LP
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> that was my last bzr push
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> could do bzr checkout
[03:15] <asac> through http?
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know how he did it
[03:16] <asac> like bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~freddymartinez9/+junk/main
[03:16] <asac> can you do it?
[03:17] <asac> its broken ... maybe its gutsy bzr thats broken?
[03:17] <asac> but actually i think ist been doen by junk cronjob or something
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i'm using gutsy
[03:17] <asac> however ... its strange that i have no idea howto get the files out :)
[03:17] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: so you can do the above command and get files?
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> do bzr checkout freddymartinez9@bazaar.launchpad.net/~freddymartinez9/+junk/main
[03:19] <asac> hey
[03:19] <asac> why don't you try asac@bazaar.launchpad.net/+asac/firefox/trunk :)
[03:19] <asac> why don't you try asac@bazaar.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/trunk :)
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> ~bzr: ERROR: Target directory "main" already exists.
[03:19] <asac> yeah you have to remove main first
[03:20] <asac> anyway ... revive that branch ... otherwise i cannot really look at it :)
[03:20] <asac> and i checked out lots of other branches today ... so it should work ;)
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean main?
[03:21] <asac> if you get
[03:21] <asac> ~bzr: ERROR: Target directory "main" already exists.
[03:22] <asac> it means that main directory exists ;)
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> wait.. i get you i think
[03:25] <asac> can you bring this up to a good branch?
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i can't figure out how to fix it..
[03:25] <asac> e.g. maybe just push again :)
[03:25] <asac> to normal location
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> i did a bzr uncommit
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> let me push that
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> try now
[03:31] <asac> uncommit brings you sources
[03:31] <asac> ?
[03:31] <asac> lets try
[03:31] <asac> uncommit fails for me :)
[03:32] <asac> at least from what i checked out through http
[03:32] <asac> ok let me know when its avail in a non-junk place :)
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll have to look at it soon.
[03:50] <asac> gnomefreak: damn thing the crash is already on 0628
[03:51] <asac> gnomefreak: did you see crashes during normal use or just during shutdown?
[03:53] <asac> yeah ... anditcrashes when starting it for first time after upgrade
[03:58] <asac> bluekuja: libagg needs attention today
[03:58] <asac> you need to strip non-free sources from it
[03:58] <asac> and please ensure its documented properly ... so in future one has the chance to get it
[04:06] <asac> bluekuja: debian bug 431987 is yours
[04:06] <asac> please prepare an update asap ;)
[05:16] <gnomefreak> asac: TBH it never crashed here on 6/28
[05:17] <gnomefreak> not that i saw (in feisty)
[05:25] <asac> yeah ... i already think its a caio regression
[05:25] <asac> of the bad sort
[05:25] <asac> e.g. not a binary issue, but aheader issue
[05:25] <bluekuja> asac: baby sent me a mail
[05:25] <asac> bluekuja: yeah
[05:25] <bluekuja> not a nice one
[05:25] <bluekuja> ^^
[05:25] <asac> yeah ... she is stupid
[05:25] <asac> i already talked to her
[05:25] <bluekuja> I noticed
[05:26] <asac> not saying she is stupid ... but he forgets ... and then behaves trollish
[05:26] <bluekuja> anyway I gonna have a showa
[05:26] <bluekuja> then go away for a while (shop)
[05:26] <bluekuja> and then here
[05:26] <bluekuja> ;)
[05:26] <bluekuja> bbl
[05:26] <gnomefreak> have fun
[05:26] <bluekuja> ty
[05:26] <gnomefreak> yw :)
[05:27] <asac> bluekuja: just remember what you have learned. don't jump in on train
[05:27] <asac> i already said everything she needs to know
[05:27] <bluekuja> asac: dont worry
[05:27] <gnomefreak> asac: than i say before we do anything further someone needs to look into cario. who is the person that maintains cario?
[05:27] <bluekuja> today I'm feeling good
[05:27] <bluekuja> dont want to start another war
[05:27] <asac> hehe
[05:27] <bluekuja> no need to
[05:27] <asac> great
[05:27] <bluekuja> really
[05:27] <bluekuja> :)
[05:28] <asac> life is hard enough without such things ;)
[05:28] <asac> gnomefreak: i will take care for this crash atm
[05:28] <bluekuja> asac: right words
[05:28] <gnomefreak> cant we skip cario?
[05:28] <bluekuja> :)
[05:29] <asac> we could ship the in-source cairo
[05:29] <asac> but that is a stupid thing todo
[05:29] <asac> we do trunnk exactly for that reason
[05:29] <gnomefreak> true
[05:29] <asac> e.g. to get to know about issues early
[05:29] <asac> so we are happy we are seeing it now
[05:29] <asac> and not when 3.0 is final
[05:29] <asac> now we have all time we need
[05:35] <gnomefreak> i hope so, there is  still a bit of issues upstream has to work out our major issue is cario (once fixed i can spin iceape on it and have it tested) since ive seen a crash report already
[05:37] <gnomefreak> if that person responds again that we should support google-desktop extention for firefox im gonna go off :(
[05:38] <gnomefreak> with google-desktop ff extention ffox crashes without it it doesnt crash i think the g-d-e is made by google but we should support his crash anyway
[05:39] <gnomefreak> bbl emergency
[05:42] <asac> gnomefreak: only trunk is affected afaik
[05:42] <asac> right?
[05:42] <asac> so iceape should not be blocked by that
[06:49] <bluekuja> asac: back
[06:50] <bluekuja> asac: now, I test balsa
[06:50] <bluekuja> so I can leave for the party, happy
[06:50] <bluekuja> :P
[06:52] <bluekuja> asac: I hope you're still there
[06:54] <asac> good
[06:54] <asac> i am almost gone
[06:54] <asac> have to do shopping
[06:54] <bluekuja> please wait it
[06:54] <bluekuja> :)
[06:54] <asac> pleaes take care for agg
[06:54] <bluekuja> asac: don't worry, I'll take care of it better than my gf :P
[06:54] <asac> as well ... heym no chance ... i am starving ... time is running low here :/
[06:54] <asac> hehe
[06:55] <bluekuja> I re-read miriam mail
[06:55] <bluekuja> is a little less aggressive
[06:55] <bluekuja> "but I feel I
[06:55] <bluekuja> wasted all the time I spent starting to package it, and definitely a bit
[06:55] <bluekuja> pissed of at not having been even notified about it."
[06:55] <asac> yeah
[06:55] <asac> i reminded here that i told here
[06:55] <asac> she remembered
[06:56] <asac> but after 5 minutes she trolled again
[06:56] <asac> so i let her alone
[06:56] <bluekuja> mmm
[06:56] <asac> i mean the people that need to know ... know now
[06:56] <bluekuja> why did she not pm me?
[06:56] <asac> because 1st. pm is bad
[06:56] <asac> 2nd ... how should she know how you are
[06:56] <asac> 3rd ... she wanted to have something to complain about in channel
[06:57] <bluekuja> yeah
[06:57] <asac> so she retrieves visibility
[06:57] <bluekuja> yeah
[06:57] <bluekuja> I'm happy that you talked with her
[06:57] <bluekuja> should I answer to that mail?
[06:57] <bluekuja> I want to
[06:57] <asac> i talked to rene ... who she complained to first
[06:57] <asac> and her
[06:57] <asac> ;)
[06:58] <asac> i don't know
[06:58] <bluekuja> asac: should I answer?
[06:58] <asac> not instantly ;)
[06:58] <bluekuja> ^^
[06:58] <bluekuja> I think she's a little less angry
[06:58] <bluekuja> now
[06:58] <bluekuja> ^^
[06:59] <asac> say her ... sorry, butyou was told that she knew
[06:59] <asac> ... and that you will spend her a bear when you see her at some point :)
[06:59] <bluekuja> :D
[06:59] <asac> maybe offer her to take that package back ... but she probably will not wantto
[07:00] <bluekuja> ok
[07:00] <asac> she repeated that in channel ... as i already offered her that
[07:00] <bluekuja> channel?
[07:00] <asac> but she said ... no ... a mail would have been fine.
[07:00] <bluekuja> which?
[07:00] <asac> debianists are never in ubunt channels
[07:00] <asac> so d.d
[07:00] <bluekuja> OFTC then
[07:01] <asac> ok i am really out now ... i might take a look later ... but no guarantees
[07:01] <asac> yes right
[07:01] <asac> bye
[07:01] <bluekuja> lol
[07:01] <bluekuja> have fun with your movie
[07:01] <bluekuja> :)
[07:01] <asac> sure
[07:01] <bluekuja> cya!
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> hey everyone
[07:52] <gnomefreak> hi
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: are you an op in #kubuntu?
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[07:53] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> you need someone with ops?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> no i am op if i need it
[07:54] <gnomefreak> i was gonna walk away and its getting a bit offtpic
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll keep an eye out
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i wish I had ops, been helping there since forever...oh well.
[07:57] <gnomefreak> talk to riddell he can give you them
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> nah, I don't feel like asking for op access, its one of those things people are appointed for
[08:00] <gnomefreak> yeah dont remind me :(