[12:30] darwin81, yes === vidd saw a how to.... [12:32] alt+shift+numlock [12:32] then use the numbpad === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.156.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === kikr__ [n=ant@ool-435499fc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd cannot get the synchronize time to work.... [12:38] is there a know fix? [12:38] The synchronize now button is grey'd out === Jester45 [n=ryan@d22-194.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #xubuntu === servaas-xubuntu2 [n=servaas@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #xubuntu === servaas-xubuntu2 [n=servaas@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu [] [12:53] anyone know how to get the time synchonization to work? [12:53] vidd: change it manually and then i believe the synchronize button will become active (i think this might be a bug) [12:54] maxamillion, how? and where? [12:54] vidd: in the change time app in Applications->System->Date&Time [12:55] i gotta go, getting off work [12:55] what is current time? [12:56] vidd: my time zone? 17:56 [12:57] then it aint working [12:57] =\ [12:57] stellar === vidd is off by like half an hour! [12:59] weird, normally it is off by hours, not halves [12:59] the time zone is right.... [12:59] Maybe it's synched to Newfoundland time. [12:59] lol [12:59] just the TIME is off [01:00] i gotta run [01:00] vidd: i think "sudo date -s 1800" should correct it .... irrc [01:00] laters === servaas-xubuntu- [n=servaas-@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.223.234.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.223.234.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] wat een stilte xubuntu is te makkelijk aan het worden :-) === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-113.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === kornevgen [n=kornevge@masq.snto-msu.net] has joined #xubuntu === kornevgen [n=kornevge@masq.snto-msu.net] has left #xubuntu [] === cheeseboy [n=greg@71-10-251-63.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] can anyone tell me whats causing this http://rafb.net/p/NtDCS379.html error when i try to compile mysqltcl ? and how do i fix? === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h177n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:08] What version of Xubuntu are you using? [02:11] Pumpernickel, do you know if its possible to fix a stab problem. that when the machine boots fstab errors and remounts as readonly... so i cant modify the fstab [02:11] Yeah, use a livecd. [02:11] well [02:12] its an off-site server [02:12] Get the server maintainer to use a livecd. [02:12] darn [02:12] thats gonna take a bit === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === servaas-xubuntu- [n=servaas-@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === Smygis_ [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === dsnaike [n=dsnaike@208.100.229.215] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B96D06.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === gerro [n=barbara@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:59] hello everyone [03:59] hi [04:02] illu45: how things going? [04:02] gerro, pretty good, thanks. IRC is a bit dead tonight, it seems :(. How are you? === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1128741490.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:06] illu45: ah fine just trying to learn how to use a printer. sorry was getting some coffee too === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:07] gerro, ah, np :). Got a new printer, then? [04:07] illu45: its a lexmark x83 one of those multi ones scanner/printer/whatever [04:08] Ah, nice :). Does it work with Uby, then? [04:08] I figured out have to use z42 driver with it but problem is I don't know what sort of connection a plugin through usb would be called === wetodd [n=zero@c-76-105-155-201.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] well printing works but scanner doesn't (had trouble with that too when on windows scanned dark blobs) [04:09] hey i started out with gnome (dapper) then installed xfce and deleted gnome, and now my add/remove programs thing is gone, can i bring it back? [04:09] wetodd: you did it wrong [04:09] wetodd: do apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [04:09] fuck [04:09] might want to also add --purge option to ubuntu-desktop thing [04:09] wetodd: everything alright [04:09] !language | wetodd [04:09] wetodd: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [04:09] just do apt-get install gnome [04:10] and then how do i remove gnome after that? and when i remove gnome again will add/remove still be there? [04:10] question....how do i use a live cd to fix my fstab/ [04:10] ? [04:10] xubuntu uses parts of gnome [04:10] vidd_laptop: fstab is in /etc [04:11] ok.... [04:11] so i have the live cd in..... [04:11] so mount your hard drive with livecd and check there [04:11] becausei dont have a really good machine, its got a small HD so gnome was taking up space that wasnt being used, so should i keep gnome or what? [04:11] wetodd, afaik, the Add/Remove is a gnome app. I'm not sure if there's a xfce alternative to it or not [04:11] gerro, how do you mount your hard drive from the live cd? [04:11] wetodd: its best to do a regular xubuntu install because installing ubuntu then setting it up as xubuntu does sometimes leave left over programs [04:12] vidd_laptop: it will be displayed on desktop just click it [04:12] gerro: should i get rid of all desktop enviornments then install xubuntu? [04:12] i cant get an xubuntu CD [04:13] wetodd: look remove the ubuntu-desktop package and install the xubuntu-desktop package, also install whatever you removed [04:13] wetodd, what DO you have?6.10? [04:13] 6.06 i had problems upgrading [04:13] i want 6.10 but i get some weird error [04:13] 6.06 is good, I had same issue while back with converting ubuntu to xubuntu because I did a network based install [04:14] vidd_laptop, the drives should be automounted with the LiveCD [04:14] wetodd: if its an older machine then might want to stick with dapper its bit more stable and customizable [04:14] illu45, welll......its not [04:14] all i have on the desktop is examples and install [04:15] Hm... [04:15] gerro: thank you [04:16] vidd_laptop, what do you get if you type "mount" (minus quotes) in a terminal window? [04:16] wetodd: no problem and a little tip if its a laptop and uses a battery don't use that battery monitor plugin for panel [04:16] wetodd: it automatically spawns an icon when unplugged and that one doesn't make the panel all big lookin [04:17] got it, thanks again, later [04:17] illu45, all kinds of stuff......what am i looking for? [04:19] vidd_laptop, there should be something mounted from /dev/ to /media/, probably something like hdc1, or sda1. The filesystem should be written beside it, too [04:20] i have udev on dev [04:20] nothing goes to media [04:20] Hm... [04:21] if it matters..im usining 6.10 live === NKUMike [n=lapemi@66.42.230.157] has joined #xubuntu [04:21] should still work the same [04:21] I think [04:21] can you try loading up feisty? [04:22] sure [04:22] let me dl it [04:22] Can anyone who has Synergy walk me through setting up the client on xubuntu and the server on xp and connecting the two? [04:23] NKUMike: wow that thing sounds kool, I'll look into it some [04:24] ha alright [04:24] NKUMike: what do you use it for? [04:25] I havent set it up yet but I have two computers attached to the same monitor and I am tired of having two keyboards and mice === stevej [n=stevej@mail.joneslinux.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:25] how do you have 2 computers hooked to same monitor? [04:25] KVM, possibly? [04:25] through a monitor switch, I'm assuming [04:26] gerro, that's easy...you get a moniter switch [04:26] hehe [04:26] okay.. === hyper__ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [04:26] you can use them to share the same keyboard and mouse too [04:26] yep [04:26] My monitor has both a vga connection and a dvi connection so I put one in each port [04:26] or that [04:27] mine works by double-tapping the scroll lock key [04:27] wow that sounds nice, I have to go through the monitor menu to switch the source (very annoying) [04:27] If you still have two keyboards and mice, you may want to look into the program "synergy" [04:28] stevej: that was my question I was looking for someone who could walk me through it, as I am a total newb [04:28] lol [04:29] Aren't we all! [04:29] I guess [04:29] Do you have it set up? [04:30] The manual page is beter than most, it has very good instructions. [04:30] on their website? [04:30] NKUMike - Yes, on my kids machines. [04:30] NKUMike, man synergy [04:31] no manual entry for synergy [04:31] do you have it installed? [04:31] man synergyc [04:31] Do you have it installed? [04:31] yeah [04:31] hehe [04:32] Try man synergyc [04:32] and syneryd [04:32] The client connection and deamon server. [04:32] yeah synergyc worked [04:32] Parrellel Port #1, Parallel Port #2, LPT # 1, Serial Port # 1, AppSocket/HP JetDirect, HP Fax (HPLIP), HP Printer(HPLIP), Internet Printing Protocol (ipp), LPD/LPR Host or Printer, Windows Printer via SAMBA, Other. which do I pick for "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 043d:003d Lexmark International, Inc. X83 Scan/Print/Copy" [04:33] that is what lsusb says :/ [04:33] !paste [04:33] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:33] Sorry, synergys for the server, synergyc for the client. [04:34] yeah, on another note, is there a vnc server automatically installed with xubuntue? === hyper__ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [04:34] Jester45: who you talking to? [04:34] server....no [04:34] alright thanks [04:35] NKUMike, you can always just apt-get it [04:35] NKUMike: I was hoping to setup vnc over ssh or some equivalent, heard of nxserver too [04:35] I don't think so, vin is bundled in with gnome, Ubuntu left it out of Xuby. [04:35] Sorry, vino. [04:35] vino? [04:35] vidd_laptop: do you have a particular fave? [04:35] !vino [04:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:35] NXServer rocks! [04:35] really? [04:35] NKUMike, nope....ssh works fine for me [04:35] stevej: any clue how to set it up though? [04:36] maybe a good guide [04:36] !NXServer [04:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about nxserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:36] NKUMike: its not in repositories, dont' know how much of it is gpl licensed [04:36] I set up my own archive of all of the relevent packages from nomachines website. [04:37] stevej: what is the client like? Similar to vnc in portability? [04:37] It isn't gpl (some parts are), but it's free for personal use. [04:37] NKUMike: supposedly its like lite vnc with extra options [04:37] ohhh ahhh extra options === hyper__ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [04:38] It's much faster, has sound and data transfer, is more secure and has better color rendition, other than that, it just rocks. [04:38] Sounds good to me [04:39] i have a version installed on a damnsmalllinux CD that autostarts and connects to my server here at home. [04:39] stevej: omg I always wanted to do that [04:41] It works very well, I can run it from a workstation at the local library (wow do they freak), the rout usually goes from Cincinnati, Ohio, to Chicago, then St. Lois, then back here to Cinci. I can play jezball to level 12 on that connection. [04:42] stevej: is second post of this thread all that's needed? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204976 what about generating your own key? [04:46] anyone know how to access a SD card that is inside of a mp3 player? i can look inside the mp3 player but not the card [04:47] on windows it makes the card a seprate device (letter) === gerro uses his ds lite as an mp3 player [04:47] Here's everything I did to get the packages in; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28751/ [04:48] yay thx stevej [04:48] umm? [04:49] I am confused too [04:49] How do you install an rpm that is on the desktop? [04:50] I just installed the .debs that are listed at the bottom (ignore the previous versions), and it worked, I didn't make any changes to keys, but I did go back later and have ssh run on a different port. [04:51] I didn't install the .rpms, but I run a number of different servers, I got the clients for windblows, redhat and debian. [04:51] All I installed on the Ubuntu box was the .deb files. [04:51] Where are the deb files? [04:52] But the proper way to install a .rpm in debian is to use alien to converrt it to a .deb === gerro too busy shooting aliens on tremulous [04:53] I downloaded them from the nomachine.com website into a directory on my local machine, /usr/local/deb-pax/ [04:53] yeah I was wondering what all that mess was you wrote [04:53] lot of comments # :) [04:53] It helps my aged and feeble brain. [04:56] By keeping my own repository, when nomachine releases an update, I can download the packages, run the script, and then synaptic catches the update and keeps everything running nicely. Even gets the dependencies fixed up nicely. === s|k [n=bjorn@ip70-171-201-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:57] ohh [04:57] NKUMike, are you in the Erlanger area? [04:57] that sort of makes sense [04:58] covington [04:58] You should drop by our meeting sometime; http://www.clug.org/ [04:59] Sweet I will have to check that out! [04:59] my printer setup program keeps saying "database error you will need to install the 'gutenprint-foomatic' package [04:59] I have that and several other packages though [04:59] About 25 of us, but you just missed the picnic. [05:00] oh well [05:00] By the way, all you need on the server end is nxnode and nxserver. [05:01] I haven't been able to get nxplugin working yet, but I'm hopeful for this weekend. [05:01] nxplugin? [05:02] It's a webserver, feeds out a java client so you can load any app or a full desktop in a web page, sort of. [05:03] ohhh yeah I saw that before [05:03] tell me how it goes kay [05:03] actually it's content for a webserver, not the server itself. [05:03] Once the deb is installed do I need to keep the deb file? [05:04] NKUMike: nope [05:04] All is installed now for the config! [05:04] nkumike: in fact think you can delete your whole /var to remove all logs and deb caches [05:05] I had to do that for a comp booting off small flash drive [05:06] how small was it! [05:06] And my question for the night, I have installed xubuntu on a laptop and a desktop, both do the same thing, when I open a terminal through "Applications, Accessories, Terminal", I get an immediate logout. [05:07] what music player is on xubuntu by default? [05:07] nkumike: 4gb so plenty of space [05:07] I can't find it [05:07] I wouldn't recommend rm /var you might loose things you'd rather keep around.. === legacygti [i=user@c-71-236-215-114.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:07] Anyone know where the NX server installs itself? [05:07] is it amarok? [05:08] nevermind on that question [05:08] NKUMike, you can open snyaptics and kinds where [05:08] can i ask a really simple question? [05:08] right click on the name and click advance or properties [05:08] You shouldn't need to change the config, give it a try befor playing. [05:08] or is there a newbie channel somewhere? [05:09] You just asked two. [05:09] true [05:09] mail, cache, log, spool, tmp from /var can be deleted though, wasn't too sure about rest [05:09] This is the newbie channel, ask away. [05:09] where is the device manager in xubuntu, i am trying to see if my network cards are installed correctly [05:09] and google has failed me already [05:10] stevej: so I dont need to edit the ssh config file or anything? [05:10] legacygti: lshw, lsusb, ifconfig [05:10] I didn't. [05:11] Just try running the client and connect to localhost, with your own or another users credentials. [05:11] How do you start it? [05:12] /usr/NX/bin/nxclient in a terminal, then you can see if there is any ugliness in it's output. [05:12] how do you start the server? [05:13] It starts when you make the connection, very cool really. [05:13] Also I have the /usr/NX/bin set as the working directory and i type nxclient and it says command not found [05:13] However I am also looking right at the executable in a file explorer [05:13] Woah nevermind it has a GUI!!! [05:14] Type the full path and filename in a terminal, see if that helps. [05:14] what would be the host for the local machine, I never understood that is it just like 127.0.0.1 or something like that? [05:15] Correct, or the word localhost [05:15] alright thanks [05:16] connection refused [05:16] Set it to encrypt all data, not just the setup. [05:17] if i have a 4 port hub, and i want to share the internet and i want to share the internet between my linux box and my windows box do i need to use ipmasquerading?? [05:17] Do you have openssh-server installed? [05:18] yes I do [05:18] Can you 'ssh localhost'? [05:19] connection refused === soccerdud [i=soccerdu@c-69-249-167-235.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:20] What is the output of 'dpkg --get-selections | grep openssh' without the quotes? [05:21] Hey everyone, I'm having a problem installing xUbuntu, I'm getting an error when installing saying "Out of memory: kill process 3116 (localledef) [05:21] stevej: client and server install [05:21] How about 'ssh 127.0.0.1'? [05:22] If the later works, your /etc/hosts file may be torked. [05:23] connection refused [05:23] should i just reinstall openssh? [05:23] If it doesn't, your ssh server may be. [05:24] sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart [05:24] might help. === illu45 [n=illu45@p-dynamic-border5-113.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:24] Or at least give you clues. [05:25] anyone have an idea on my problem? googled it and found nothing on this error :-\ === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B97BB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:25] I wouldn't go to such extremes. [05:26] soccerdud: How much memory in your machine? Have you checked the package integrity and run the memory test? [05:26] yeah my config file was messed up, now its fixed and it looks like I am in business [05:27] umm.. " [05:27] A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session or you may have just clicked a menu or some application just decided to get focus." wtf? [05:27] first time I had that happen.. [05:27] All of your focus belong to us. [05:27] think I clicked applications menu second time before synaptic asked for password [05:27] stevej: lol nice one [05:28] stevej: Now I am getting from NX, Server bit ubstakked ir NX access disabled [05:28] ?? [05:28] Wow I don't know what I typed there, [05:28] nkumike: haha you been ubstakked :P [05:28] Server not installed or NX access disabled [05:29] yep [05:31] stevej: sry I walked awy from the computer... [05:31] stevej: it has 64MB [05:31] its an old computer, just trying to do somethign with [05:31] That's tight, really tight. [05:32] hmm alright [05:32] Sounds like a router project to me. [05:33] stevej: You have any idea whats up with the NXServer? [05:33] NKUMike: Can you check that the nx user was added to your machine? grep nx /etc/passwd [05:33] stevej: are you talking to me? [05:34] soccerdude: no, that was aimed at my neighbor, Mike. [05:35] alright.. well thanks for your help! [05:35] I'lls ee if I can get small amount of RAM for it [05:36] stevej: I got the following nx:x:113:65534::/usr/NX/home/nx:/usr/NX/bin/nxserver [05:36] I actually got past that one part, but now I am getting NX server has refused the connection === battra [n=asmaiya@adsl-68-20-33-146.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === legacygti [i=user@c-71-236-215-114.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] [05:37] anyone know how menus are edited in xubuntu? [05:37] !nice [05:37] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [05:38] the higher the nice the lower the priority right? [05:38] I think [05:38] I installed Linneighborhood, but it's not showing up in the menu. Anyone know how to go about editing the menu? [05:39] Jester45: I mainly use that command for beryl to open non xgl enhanced x sessions with high priority for my full screen gaming :) [05:40] wish there was a guide on that maybe I should write one [05:40] ahhh! [05:40] NKUMike: can you pastebin the config for your session? ~/.nx/config/*.nxs [05:41] I fixed it! I didn't run the install scripts [05:41] Install script? [05:41] sudo /usr/NX/scripts/setup/nxnode --install [05:41] then same for the server [05:42] Doh, I remember that - yes you need to do that. [05:42] yeah, longest install of my life! [05:43] Do you remember what you use for settings? The part where you can choose unix, windows vnc and then where you can choose kde gnome or xdm? [05:43] I use nx between my laptop and server on a dialup, it's pretty nice. [05:46] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28753/ [05:47] That covers all of the values I use. [05:47] Where do you put that? [05:49] nevermind I got it [05:49] thanks [05:50] That's _part_ of my ~/.nx/config/MySelf.nxs [05:50] Don't copy it in, it won't work. [05:50] oh ok [05:50] brb going to go try to install nx client on windows [05:51] It doesn't have the stuff at the bottom that has to do with authintication. === battra [n=asmaiya@adsl-68-20-33-146.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] [05:52] stevej: to use nx you need ssh server too though right? how do I disable the use of ssh except for nxclient [05:53] I don't think you would want to, but let me think a moment. [05:54] that's sort of what I was asking earlier [05:56] Gerro: You can try adding 'AllowUsers nx' to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, I don't know if that will work or not. [05:57] Why do you wish to limit the greatest server in the history of *nix? [05:59] It's the only port I leave open 24/7, but I do have pam disabled. [06:00] stevej: I guess I couldn't figure this out from your config file but what is the desktop you use? [06:00] I use gnome. [06:01] Line #29 in the pasty. [06:01] Thats what I thought but I am getting this error: cannot run gnome-session etc [06:01] does xubuntu have gnome installed by default? [06:01] Are you trying to connect to xubuntu? [06:01] yes [06:01] no... thats why its xubuntu [06:02] thats what I thought [06:02] No, it doesn't, hold on. [06:04] Try "Desktop Unix Custom" and then "Run default x client script on server" [06:05] cannot run /etc/X11/xdm/Xsessoion same as the gnome error [06:07] NKUMike, gnome is installable ubuntu-desktop is the meta package with all the other packages to isntall it === Dave_ [n=chatzill@pool-71-249-2-61.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:07] hello all [06:07] I think I got it I just had to tell it to run startxfce4 [06:07] hi Dave_ [06:09] That's it. [06:10] I am having trouble with my installation [06:11] Dave_, thats nice, do you have any details? [06:11] i reinstalled my xbuntu and did the required upgrades just fine, but then I tried to install the nvidia drivers like on wiki site [06:12] but then I can re-log into my linux, it says can't start x and it says can not find my card, and it points to PCI when my card is Agp [06:12] Dave_, you might want to try the restricted drivers manager [06:12] Dave_, look at your /etc/xorg.conf and tell us what driver your device is using [06:12] but I can not get into the desktop? is there a way to do it with the cd? [06:13] darn I wrote it down but I left it at my house I am on another comp [06:13] didnt occur to me to bring the paper [06:13] sry [06:13] just look into the xorg and tell me what card your using [06:13] but the driver is Nvidia tho [06:14] thats the non-opensource on correct [06:14] i am onanother comp right now so cant look into the xorg on my comp sry, but the driver was nvidia under the device setting [06:14] Goodnight folks! [06:15] was before the messing with driver or after [06:15] night [06:15] hmm do not know, also I remember the glx is there also for the load area [06:15] well [06:15] See ya Steve thanks for your help! [06:15] I couldnt get into my desktop after I ran the install [06:16] My ypleasure. [06:16] make sure you disable the non-opensource driver and try to startx again, if that works then use the driver manager to install [06:16] I looked on the ubuntu wiki for nvidia and use the instruction there to install the nvidia,but it was for the original ubuntu not xubuntu [06:16] night steve [06:16] Dave_, that doesnt matter not with the xserver is the same package [06:17] xubuntu and ubuntu runs from the same repo [06:17] how do I disable it? I got into the config file using nano in the command line [06:17] as do all the other *buntus [06:17] oh ok [06:17] replace nvidia with nv [06:17] and save [06:18] under the device area correct there is only one I saw correct? [06:18] the diffreance is the defualt installed packages [06:18] ok [06:19] when I get back into my desktop after change if successful, do I use the restricted drivers to install then [06:19] ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop wich installs gnome and its packages, in xubuntu you have xubuntu-desktop and its xfce. [06:19] Dave_, yes i would go that way === NKUMike [n=lapemi@66.42.230.157] has left #xubuntu [] [06:19] correct, however when I got the error it said to restart gdm when the problem is corrected [06:20] Dave_, that will get you into the desktop [06:20] oh ok, even tho it uses xfce the start is gnome lol [06:20] startx is just a test you can restart gdm via sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [06:20] no its not gnome [06:21] oh ok [06:21] it has some gnome parts like gdm but thats just for a better user experience. you can replace gdm with xdm or kdm if you want a kde variant [06:22] I need to get familiar with linux again I am so rusty I forgot all I learned from before [06:23] also a question, do I use apt-get to get wine installed because the I tried the sh WineCVS.sh to install and also used sudo before it but I get an error [06:24] it says test error or something plus other stuff [06:24] Dave_, you will want wine's repo for apt its much more uptodate [06:24] i will help you out with that [06:24] so use apt-get then? [06:24] yes [06:24] but you need to dosomthing else first [06:24] I have pen and paper I will write it all down and follow it to a T [06:25] yes Jester? [06:25] sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [06:25] and add [06:26] deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main [06:26] and save [06:26] then run wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - [06:27] then run apt-get update [06:27]