[12:14] <trakinas> shane2peru: it is heavy here. if yu love it, it probably run smoothy on your machine. in general, into widgets dir
[12:14] <shane2peru> trakinas: thanks
[12:17] <trakinas> shane2peru: you are welcome
[12:17] <trakinas> sooooooo... anyone?
[12:17] <quinton_> Need help installing windows flash to kubuntu
[12:19] <trakinas> quinton_: why you need windows flash? you mean the plugin or the program?
[12:20] <quinton_> trakinas: I have a windows program that requires flash...
[12:20] <trakinas> quinton_: install it via wine.
[12:20] <quinton_> trakinas: didnt work
[12:21] <trakinas> quinton_: hmmm... i dont remember how, but I could install shockwave and flash plugin via wine once.
[12:21] <shane2peru> quinton_: are you talking about installing flash for Firefox as a plugin?
[12:22] <quinton_> shane2peru: no
[12:22] <eagles0513875> blues
[12:22] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj:
[12:22] <quinton_> shane2peru: more like to run a program off the desktop
[12:22] <shane2peru> quinton_: I'm afraid I can't be of much help then
[12:22] <BluesKaj> yes eagles0513875
[12:22] <shane2peru> quinton_: I don't know anything about flash, don't really use it other than as FF plugin
[12:22] <eagles0513875> name of the room ur in again lol
[12:22] <quinton_> shane2peru: like?
[12:23] <shane2peru> !flash
[12:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:23] <eagles0513875> ax1s: dude
[12:23] <eagles0513875> blues dump vmware
[12:23] <shane2peru> quinton_: ^^^
[12:23] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: virtualbox is so much faster
[12:24] <eagles0513875> ax1s: dude virtualbox is so much faster
[12:24] <BluesKaj> I tried VB ..it wouldn't connect to the net
[12:24] <quinton_> shane2peru: that would not help me
[12:24] <eagles0513875> did u have nat enabled
[12:26] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what room r u guys in again
[12:27] <ax1s> eagles0513875:  ivmu
[12:29] <AdditionAl> something has gone pretty wrong. Something won't let me manage my packages because another controller is managing them. I have restarted and closed everything I know how. Some one help please!
[12:30] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix
[12:30] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:30] <DaSkreech> AdditionAl: ^^^
[12:30] <AdditionAl> k justa sec
[12:32] <AdditionAl> thank you, that worked. I will get back to you an other stupid recording question.....
[12:36] <eagles0513875> AdditionAl: take a lookat ubuntustudio.org
[12:36] <AdditionAl> yeah I know.  I would get that if it were something I can't just get from the repos and I hate gnome
[12:37] <eagles0513875> im a fraid since im running gutsy to just add the repos
[12:37] <eagles0513875> im fraid it might break something lol
[12:39] <K-Ryan> Psst, I'm on the Live CD, I need to mount something
[12:39] <K-Ryan> A hard drive
[12:39] <vzduch> AdditionAl: there's a number of ubuntustudio-* pkgs you can install
[12:39] <skullAttack> edit fstab
[12:39] <K-Ryan> For the live cd?
[12:39] <K-Ryan> Too much effort
[12:39] <briancron> I have a question about installing from the Kubuntu disk... it doesn't give me an option to resize the Vista partition, is that normal?
[12:39] <K-Ryan> It can be done in another way
[12:39] <K-Ryan> I've done it before
[12:40] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: mkdir Below && sudo mount /dev/devicename Below
[12:41] <K-Ryan> Below?
[12:42] <skullAttack> Below being the mount folder ;)
[12:42] <skullAttack> u can call it anythin u want
[12:44] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: mkdir MyDrive && sudo mount /dev/devicename MyDrive
[12:46] <skullAttack> thats a cool method. never thought of doing it that way before
[12:47] <vzduch> doing what?
[12:48] <skullAttack> ^^ said command string for mounting a drive
[12:48] <vzduch> that's perfectly normal
[12:49] <skullAttack> yea. i always used fstab
[12:49] <vzduch> o0
[12:49] <skullAttack> dont regularly mount or unmount. my drives are pretty static so
[12:49] <vzduch> you use fstab if you want to permanently have that device in your filesystem
[12:49] <skullAttack> with that command, would the fstab be amended, or just mounted for that session
[12:50] <bassgoon> what do I need to do to make it use a swapfile instead of a partition
[12:50] <bassgoon> like...pre-installation
[12:50] <vzduch> why would you want to do that?
[12:51] <AdditionAl> ok I cannot record sound at all, it comes trhough my spaekers but I can't record from it.  I jack installed and running.  I am using the alsa driver... I have been workin on this for like a week.
[12:51] <bassgoon> perhaps because a swap partition would put me over the 4 partition limit, and I don't plan on using more than one distro at a time
[12:51] <bassgoon> ever
[12:53] <eguzkia> hello someone can do an nmap on this IP: V
[12:53] <eguzkia> hello someone can do an nmap on this IP: 213.230.130.56
[12:53] <DaSkreech> skullAttack: just till its unmounted.
[12:53] <skullAttack> yep thats a given
[12:53] <skullAttack> what about if i rebooted
[12:54] <DaSkreech> bassgoon: Maybe an extended partition?
[12:54] <DaSkreech> skullAttack: then it would be unmounted
[12:54] <bassgoon> that's a bigger PITA
[12:54] <skullAttack> heh that was my question. ty ;)
[12:54] <vzduch> why is an extended partition a PITA? o0
[12:55] <bassgoon> have you ever tried to use anything on extended parts?
[12:55] <bassgoon> the ONLY os i've ever gotten to 'just work' is xp
[12:55] <vzduch> what's the problem?
[12:55] <skullAttack> lol. the only OS ive ever seen "just work" is OSX
[12:55] <DaSkreech> bassgoon: Seriously?
[12:56] <vzduch> I have /boot and swap on primary partitions, everything else (/ and /home) on extended partitions w/ no issues
[12:56] <bassgoon> well, if I made an extended partition, linux would have to be ON it
[12:56] <skullAttack> if you have to get it to "just work" then its not really "just working" is it? :P
[12:56] <DaSkreech> skullAttack: that's cause they forcibly stop you from doing anything stupid like a lazy umount :)
[12:56] <bassgoon> skullAttack, xp just did it
[12:56] <bassgoon> trying to do it on linux...
[12:56] <bassgoon> I already have 2 oses, and 3 partitions that I can't mess with
[12:56] <bassgoon> so I have 1 partition left for linux
[12:56] <skullAttack> i see
[12:57] <bassgoon> why does it always have to be questioning why I'm doing something...if you care to offer me help...do, otherwise...let me be...
[12:57] <bassgoon> geez
[12:57] <AdditionAl> no one has any ideas?
[12:58] <ubuntu> Daaaaamn -.-
[12:58] <ubuntu> My entire street lost power for a second
[12:58] <ubuntu> And I'm still logged in here >.>
[12:59] <pagan0ne> anyone expirence with krfb?
[01:00] <K-Ryan2> Okay I never got it to work
[01:00] <K-Ryan2> I need the contents of an iso
[01:00] <TeraDyne> bassgoon: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ < A small tutorial on making a file and using it as swap
[01:00] <K-Ryan2> I'm running on the Live CD
[01:00] <bassgoon> TeraDyne, cool
[01:00] <bassgoon> thank you
[01:00] <K-Ryan2> I can't use Ark, so if anyone has a way for me worth trying, drop a line
[01:00] <TeraDyne> bassgoon: No problem.
[01:00] <skullAttack> might be an excuse to buy another hdd :P
[01:00] <AdditionAl> ok this is nothing new, I don't want to install windows over this but whatever...
[01:01] <skullAttack> whoa big lag
[01:01] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: Mount the iso
[01:01] <K-Ryan2> =*( it doesn't work
[01:01] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: I was just typing that up.
[01:02] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan2: You can't mount an iso?
[01:02] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: What command did you try ?
[01:02] <K-Ryan2> It gives some cryptic error message
[01:02] <TeraDyne> put in in here or pastebin it
[01:02] <TeraDyne> put it*
[01:02] <K-Ryan2> I don't have it right now because my entire street lost power for a second
[01:02] <K-Ryan2> Notice how K-Ryan is still in the chat...
[01:03] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan2: Ah, ok.
[01:03] <K-Ryan2> I'll try to get it though
[01:03] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: well try again and see if it doesn't work and when it doesn't paste the command here :)
[01:04] <visha> hello?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> hi
[01:05] <visha> what do you use?
[01:05] <visha> what OS?
[01:05] <K-Ryan2> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/ubuntu/dsl-3.4.iso /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Mount/
[01:05] <K-Ryan2> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
[01:05] <TeraDyne> visha: Kubuntu, as do most here.
[01:05] <K-Ryan2> I'm not doing something wrong, right?
[01:05] <visha> oke
[01:05] <visha> I'm using Ubuntu with Gnome
[01:06] <TeraDyne> I always use "sudo mount -o loop <file> <mountpoint>"
[01:06] <K-Ryan2> #Ubuntu may be of more help
[01:06] <K-Ryan2> But you're welcome to stick around
[01:06] <DaSkreech> TeraDyne: I think that's what he did
[01:06] <visha> oke thanx ryan
[01:06] <AdditionAl> visha, I would ask your question anyway....
[01:06] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: He specified a filesystem type as well. I never do.
[01:06] <visha> ooh oke
[01:07] <visha> ask me
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Doesn't make a difference all the new mounts do an auto detect it's functioanlly the same thing with more typing
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Unless it's aDVD ISO of course :)
[01:07] <AdditionAl> visha, ask you what
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Which unless it's terribly named I don't think it is
[01:07] <visha> [01:06]  <AdditionAl> visha, I would ask your question anyway....
[01:07] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: Ah, ok.
[01:07] <K-Ryan2> It's an iso file
[01:07] <visha> ooh sorry
[01:07] <visha> misread
[01:07] <AdditionAl> ha ha
[01:08] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: Wait you downloaded the ISO on the Live Cd?
[01:08] <K-Ryan2> I'm on the Live CD
[01:08] <K-Ryan2> And I downloaded a DSL iso
[01:08] <K-Ryan2> note the name
[01:08] <K-Ryan2> dsl-3.4.iso
[01:08] <DaSkreech> That's Gibbony :)
[01:09] <K-Ryan2> What?
[01:09] <DaSkreech> You'll get it after a minute or two :)
[01:09] <visha> so men
[01:09] <K-Ryan2> No, I probably won't
[01:09] <visha> trying to install something with the terminal is hard
[01:09] <visha> you've got to know thta language
[01:09] <AdditionAl> visha, what are you trying to install?
[01:09] <K-Ryan2> brb...
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> what are you trying to install visha?
[01:10] <TeraDyne> !pastebin > TeraDyne
[01:10] <DaSkreech> hi intelikey
[01:10] <intelikey>     anyone with a clue-by-four care to look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37968  and tell me how to fix it ?
[01:11] <intelikey> DaSkreech :)
[01:11] <yurimxpxman> what's the best program to play midis with?
[01:11] <K-Ryan2> back
[01:11] <intelikey> yurimxpxman i like "playmidi"
[01:11] <intelikey> yurimxpxman it's cli tho
[01:11] <visha> well just something random
[01:11] <visha> but I use the program
[01:11] <Anobe> is it possable to dual boot windows with linux?
[01:11] <visha> in ubuntu
[01:11] <TeraDyne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28884/ < If anyone want's to see why you shouldn't let me write scripts at 4 in the morning.
[01:11] <kushal06062007> What is the best program to create and edit MIDI?
[01:11] <visha> yes, anobe
[01:11] <TeraDyne> !dualboot
[01:11] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:12] <visha> I have a dualboot
[01:12] <intelikey> anode only if you have both installed
[01:12] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: sounds good to me. Thanks :-)
[01:12] <visha> linux:ubunto
[01:12] <Anobe> on a single hardrive?
[01:12] <kushal06062007> Yes, Anobe
[01:12] <visha> windows:xp
[01:12] <Silent_G> hello, somebody here knows how to make 3D accalartion work on a Radeon 7000? please i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:12] <visha> yeah
[01:12] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: What is the filesysetm on the hard drive?
[01:12] <visha> with partitions
[01:12] <TeraDyne> !ati Silent_G
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati silent_g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <DaSkreech> !ati | Silent_G
[01:12] <ubotu> Silent_G: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:12] <K-Ryan2> Umm
[01:12] <TeraDyne> Forgot the pipe key
[01:12] <K-Ryan2> That's a very good point
[01:12] <Silent_G> thenkz
[01:12] <Anobe> right now im useing windows on a harddrive, and i need to put ubuntu with install it comes with
[01:12] <intelikey> !dualboot | Anobe
[01:12] <ubotu> Anobe: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:13] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: I'm guessing the mounted image from the Live CD is alerady on a Loop device
[01:13] <kushal06062007> Does Ubuntu have any problems with wireless mice? I want to buy one soon so ...
[01:13] <Anobe> Thanks
[01:13] <K-Ryan2> No DaSkreech
[01:13] <K-Ryan2> I think it's umm
[01:13] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: it says that no device was found.. wtf?
[01:13] <K-Ryan2> I don't remember formatting the drive...
[01:14] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: It hasn't been fomratted?
[01:14] <K-Ryan2> =)
[01:14] <intelikey> yurimxpxman hmm   modprobe usb-midi   if you use a usb device
[01:14] <K-Ryan2> It hasn't
[01:14] <K-Ryan2> I cleared it and forgot
[01:14] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan2: ah
[01:15] <kushal06062007> Do you have windoes XP already installed?
[01:15] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: no, I don't have a USB device.. shouldn't my soundcard support midis?
[01:15] <intelikey> yurimxpxman if your sound card supports midi   it should "just work"   if the card doesn't support it....   err ummm well
[01:15] <intelikey> idk
[01:16] <intelikey> yurimxpxman you probably need to haller at crimsun about that.   and i'll take notes when he fixes it for you    hehhe  :)
[01:17] <TeraDyne> intelikey: if his soundcard doesn't support MIDI, I want to know who made it. I have a "Stupid Idea of the Era" award to give them.
[01:17] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: who's crimson?
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Second to TPM?
[01:17] <intelikey> TeraDyne yeah.   probably an AD1816 or something.....  :/
[01:17] <yurimxpxman> TeraDyne: it *should* support it.. I've never played midis before, but I can't imagine it not supporting it
[01:18] <K-Ryan2> I had to do something before my midi worked
[01:18] <K-Ryan2> But it works
[01:18] <yurimxpxman> K-Ryan: any idea what it was?
[01:18] <TeraDyne> yurimxpxman: Try "timidity". You'll probably have to install it, but if it doesn't work, than I'm out of ideas.
[01:19] <K-Ryan> It wasn't configured, I needed to install something too
[01:19] <K-Ryan> !midi
[01:19] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[01:19] <Silent_G> DaSkreech, that site you gave me of ubuntu describes how to install an ati driver over the 9000 series, i have a 7000 one :s
[01:19] <TeraDyne> oh, and timidity is a command line app, so you'll have to run it from Konsole or a virtual terminal
[01:19] <K-Ryan> That did it
[01:19] <DaSkreech> Silent_G: I think the ati driver might work
[01:19] <intelikey> my playmidi works from day one,  don't think i did anything to it.   but i'm using an OLD es1688 sound drive card.
[01:20] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Nice. Didn't even think about the bot.
[01:20] <K-Ryan> ;)
[01:20] <Silent_G> which ati driver but? the one open source of kubuntu is only 2D and i need 3D for playing games
[01:20] <banksey> Hi guys, My Konqueror keeps crashing for some reason at random time, Anyone had this problem before, Or know how to fix it? Help would be much appciated.
[01:21] <DaSkreech> Silent_G: then install fglrx
[01:21] <kuma> hi, i'm having a problem with the remote:/ folder, when i try to access a server form there i get an error that only shows the address i'm trying to connect to. can anybody help me?
[01:21] <TeraDyne> kuma: is it a windows shared folder?
[01:22] <K-Ryan> I need help formatting my hard drive
[01:22] <kuma> dunno, i just know that i connect to this servers using ftp
[01:22] <intelikey> so no help for a shoeless system ?
[01:22] <K-Ryan> cfdisk says "FATAL ERROR:  Cannot open disk drive"
[01:22] <K-Ryan> So I can't partition it
[01:22] <K-Ryan> GParted.... -.-
[01:23] <intelikey> sudo cfdisk /dev/<put the drive device here?
[01:23] <intelikey> >
[01:23] <K-Ryan> let me try again, maybe i misspelt something
[01:23] <TeraDyne> kuma: try using an FTP program like "KFTPGrabber".
[01:23] <kuma> hi, i'm having a problem with the remote:/ folder, when i try to access a server form there i get an error that only shows the address i'm trying to connect to. can anybody help me?
[01:24] <kuma> sorry
[01:24] <kuma> the remote:/ folder was working on my home, but i'm not there right now and the problem could be proxy related, but i', nopt sure
[01:24] <intelikey> K-Ryan but you do know that *fdisk is not for resizing partitions... right ?
[01:24] <K-Ryan> I know
[01:24] <K-Ryan> It's for making
[01:24] <intelikey> k
[01:24] <intelikey> or deleting them
[01:24] <intelikey> changing type....
[01:25] <TeraDyne> kuma: I never use "remote:/" for FTP, so I can't help further.
[01:25] <kuma> TeraDyne: I'm not looking for a sustitute, i really like the remote system used in kubuntu
[01:25] <K-Ryan> Hmm, works now
[01:25] <K-Ryan> Go figure
[01:26] <K-Ryan> Yeah I put in cdfisk lol
[01:26] <K-Ryan> Silly me
[01:27] <_gtt_> what's a recommended way to format my mp3 player's drive to fat32 ?
[01:27] <intelikey> man.  i should have used the man page long ago.  says that mouse support can be disabled with -d  on the command line for mc   and all this time i've been using the shift key to do copy and paste in mc.....
[01:28] <intelikey> _gtt_ what ever way works the best for you.
[01:29] <intelikey> anybody with insight on my boot issue ???
     anyone with a clue-by-four care to look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37968  and tell me how to fix it ?
[01:31] <K-Ryan> Hey umm, I still need to get the contents of the iso
[01:31] <K-Ryan> What I just did didn't fix it
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Could somebody else get them and host them on filefront or something for me? I would be eternally greatful. =)
[01:32] <shadowhywind> is the a console command to restart X.org
[01:33] <intelikey> K-Ryan i'm on dialup.  so impossable here...
[01:33] <K-Ryan> =/ thanks anyway intelikey
[01:33] <intelikey> shadowhywind sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:34] <intelikey> i mean i could if you have the six weeks it will take to do that.   assuming it's normal cd and not dvd iso....  ;/
[01:34] <K-Ryan> It's DSL
[01:34] <K-Ryan> 50MB
[01:35] <intelikey> oh that's not so bad i did actually dl that back a few years ago when it came out.
[01:35] <Darkrift> how do i force kill a service?
[01:36] <intelikey> root it
[01:36] <Darkrift> command though?
[01:36] <intelikey> as root    killall name
[01:36] <Darkrift> an uninstall script us unable to stop it
[01:36] <OptimusRex> Good evening everyone
[01:36] <intelikey> or      kill 'pid'
[01:36] <Darkrift>    Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
[01:37] <OptimusRex> Does anyone remember how to get into Konsole and get ubuntu recongnise the graphics card?
[01:37] <Darkrift> ok
[01:37] <intelikey> Darkrift find the pid   pidof blah
[01:37] <Darkrift> how do i find a pid of a service?
[01:38] <intelikey> Darkrift what are you calling service ?   kernel thread ?     ps aux
[01:38] <Darkrift> on an uninstall
[01:38] <Darkrift> it failes
[01:38] <naught101> anyone know how I might clear my recently used applications list? quicklaunch has an Icon for a program that's obviously not installed any more, and it's giving me a malformed URL
[01:38] <Darkrift> says its unable to stop the "Virtual ethernet" service
[01:38] <intelikey> probably not running so it can't be stopped and thus the installer is failing   ?
[01:38] <Darkrift> no idea
[01:39] <intelikey> ps aux
[01:39] <intelikey> px -A ux
[01:39] <intelikey> oops  ps -A ux
[01:39] <Darkrift> i see a few that belong to vmware
[01:40] <Darkrift> how do i show only ones with vmware in them
[01:40] <intelikey> on anything i have installed one could  just use the  "pid" command   but seeing that it's a script i wrote it's not likely you have it on your system...
[01:40] <intelikey> grep -ie vmware
[01:40] <intelikey> ps -A ux | grep -ie vmware
[01:40] <BluesKaj> just installed vmware ...what a chore
[01:41] <OptimusRex> I have installed edubuntu and I want to select the graphics card by getting into konsole but I don't know the commands or at least I forgot to copy them the last time I did it for kubuntu
[01:41] <OptimusRex> Can anyone help me?
[01:41] <intelikey> and if you need a pager  add    | less
[01:41] <Darkrift> okj
[01:42] <Darkrift> killed each of them
[01:42] <Darkrift> script worked now
[01:42] <Darkrift> ty
[01:42] <intelikey> Darkrift killall is handy.    man killall   ffr
[01:42] <Darkrift> omfg
[01:42] <Darkrift> vmware still says its installed :@
[01:43] <Darkrift> screw all this messa
[01:43] <intelikey> killall is still handy.
[01:43] <dfwlinuxguy> optimusrex...I don't understand your question
[01:43] <intelikey> :)
[01:43] <Darkrift> i killed each one seperatly
[01:43] <Darkrift> and the uninstall script completed
[01:43] <Darkrift> so its checking for something else
[01:45] <OptimusRex> there is a way to get into ubuntu and choose your kind of graphics card but I don't remember how. Can you help me with that?
[01:46] <intelikey> does qemu only work with disk images or can you use real hard drives ?
[01:46] <TeraDyne> OptimusRex: Ubuntu or Kubuntu? If you're talking about Ubuntu, try #ubuntu
[01:46] <intelikey> OptimusRex in a terminal type; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <dfwlinuxguy> are you talking about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:47] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I didn't stop to think... Maybe I should just go back to bed...
[01:47] <OptimusRex> I think that's it. Let me try it
[01:48] <Darkrift> lol
[01:48] <intelikey> TeraDyne anyone else in the bed ?
[01:48] <Darkrift> commented out the error message and made it skip the return and its installing now
[01:49] <TeraDyne> intelikey: It's 6:49 pm here, so no.
[01:49] <intelikey> nah it's not worth it then... just stay up.
[01:50] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Ok. I'll just go play some Secret of Mana or Pokemon Battle Revolution... or maybe make a pokemon app in bash...
[01:50] <intelikey> works for you.
[01:51] <cyberg7358> I installed kubuntu and everything was perfect until I rebooted the machine and could not log in. I tried for hours to figure out how to log in but could not. where can can I get easy instructions to figurenout how to log in?
[01:51] <vzduch> define 'could not log in'
     anyone with a clue-by-four care to look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37968  and tell me how to fix it ?
[01:52] <cyberg7358> user name and password
[01:52] <intelikey> cyberg7358 reboot to single user mode and set the password for the user account
[01:52] <TeraDyne> cyberg7358: Your UN and PW don't work?
[01:53] <intelikey> example; passwd bob
[01:53] <intelikey> type password here
[01:53] <intelikey> repete password here
[01:53] <intelikey> init 2
[01:53] <intelikey> login as bob with the password you typed
[01:53] <intelikey> example only ^
[01:54] <vzduch> intelikey: single-user mode is 'init 1'
[01:54] <intelikey> vzduch yes
[01:54] <intelikey> but you can't call init without loging in first or specifying at boot time.
[01:55] <cyberg7358> no they dont, I googled the problem and read about a lot of other users that had the same problem
[01:56] <cyberg7358> I am using ubuntu fiesty now. It setup without any problems
[01:56] <intelikey> oh wait.  you are having that problem with gutzy ?
[01:57] <skullAttack> cyberg7358: there is the possibility taht you typed the password in wrong twice, but with the same typo
[01:57] <TeraDyne> cyberg7358: Ubuntu or (K)Ubuntu
[01:57] <skullAttack> it happens rarely, but ive done it once or twice
[01:57] <see-g> me too
[01:58] <drif> what's the way to get rid of 'too many open files' errors?
[01:58] <see-g> intelikey: it might be possible to get into single user-mode by rebooting and catching the GRUB menu (it's called recovery mode there)
[01:58] <intelikey> cyberg7358 gutsy      get out of here.   you belong in #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <intelikey> see-g  that's what i sujested ^
[01:59] <intelikey> drif set the ulimit higher
[01:59] <cyberg7358> Sorry I was just trying to figure out haw to setup Kubuntu
[01:59] <see-g> intelikey: sorry, I just understood what you meant with specifying at boot time ;)
[01:59] <vzduch> cyberg7358: Feisty or Gutsy?
[02:00] <kuma> hi, i'm having a problem with the remote:/ folder, when i try to access a server form there i get an error that only shows the address i'm trying to connect to. can anybody help me?
[02:00] <skullAttack> kuma: didnt you ask that exact same question earlier?
[02:00] <drif> intelikey: hm, it already says unlimited..hard to top that
[02:00] <intelikey> cyberg7358 hey no problem.  but if you use the alpha/beta prerelease don't expect us to help with it.  and the people in #ubuntu+1 need the input when you do have problems.
[02:00] <kuma> yes :)
[02:01] <intelikey> drif unlimited on open files ?
[02:01] <intelikey> drif ulimit -a   to read
[02:01] <kuma> i'm hoping someone could help me
[02:01] <OptimusRex> TeraDyne and Intelikey, thanks for the commands. I'm in and it's working. I'm configuring graphics as we speak
[02:01] <intelikey> drif im set to    open files                      (-n) 1024
[02:02] <intelikey> OptimusRex welcome
[02:02] <OptimusRex> cool
[02:02] <drif> intelikey: it was 1024, changed to 2048
[02:02] <TeraDyne> anyone know if there's a way to make irssi make a "beep" sound if someone mentions my name in a channel?
[02:02] <intelikey> drif is your user processes set ?
[02:03] <Darkrift> how do i install the "kernel source package" ?
[02:03] <intelikey> max user processes              (-u) 128
[02:03] <intelikey> drif you should set that to something sain,  unlimited is asking for a runaway process to loop you into a reboot...
[02:04] <drif> TeraDyne: you can handle events with scripts, you just need to know how to do some perl - there might be something similar already written though
[02:04] <intelikey> Darkrift from the repos  use apt-get install linux-*source*      from the developers   dl the tarball and unpack it.
[02:04] <TeraDyne> drif: Actually, I found some settins you can add. Here's the link I found: http://pookey.co.uk/blog/archives/2-Irssi-making-it-beep-when-your-nick-is-mentioned.html
[02:05] <TeraDyne> settings*
[02:05] <drif> intelikey: 256 sane enough?
[02:05] <TeraDyne> *sigh* still too used to Konversation's tab-comp dropdown.
[02:06] <intelikey> drif anything below 2k should work.  :)  but you want at least   128    most like about 512
[02:06] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone else seen a problem when switching users on Fiesty?
[02:07] <intelikey> drif note that counts all processes that the user owns  reguardless of access point.
[02:07] <Mr_Sonoma> my screen sometimes will go totally white and nothing i do other than hitting the reset button (maybe i should try restarting x nextime it does it - just thought of that one) will bring it back.
[02:08] <drif> intelikey: when I make those changes with ulimit, are those instantenous?
[02:08] <intelikey> yes
[02:08] <drif> intelikey: or does something else plaque my ktorrent
[02:08] <TeraDyne> Mr_Sonoma: I've had that happen on my laptop. Maybe I'll try that as well.
[02:08] <intelikey> but not permanant.  you need to add them to something like /etc/bash_bashrc or /etc/profile
[02:09] <vzduch> drif: too many files in your download and/or upload queue, I guess
[02:09] <drif> vzduch: there really ain't that many, active atleast
[02:09] <Mr_Sonoma> TeraDyne: i havent tried just hitting cntrl + alt + bkspce but just thought next time it does it ill try that before pushing the reset.....was hoping someone else had seen it and might have a suggestion as to a solution
[02:10] <intelikey> drif and i don't think they will apply to another shell when added via the command line.   i.e. you can't export settings to a parrent.
[02:10] <drif> intelikey: ah, so those aren't global?
[02:10] <intelikey> they are if you have them in /etc/profile
[02:10] <intelikey> :)
[02:10] <TeraDyne> Mr_Sonoma: I've only used the "reset" method as well. I will try restarting X next time, though.
[02:11] <drif> intelikey: and reboot..?
[02:11] <intelikey> no just log out
[02:11] <intelikey> it is read at login
[02:11] <drif> intelikey: pretty much same thing.. need to close my processes
[02:12] <intelikey> obviously a differance in perspective there.   when one user logging out is equal with a full system reboot .........
[02:13] <dxdt> I have a panel on top of my desktop and one at the bottom, but I can't make the bottom one "tiny" only the top one changes sizes when I vary the settings.  I know you can change the bottom one, but I don't remember how.  Ideas?
[02:13] <drif> intelikey: and perspective depends on circumstances in hand..
[02:14] <intelikey> dxdt cause you didn't select the other pannel in the config window
[02:14] <dxdt> intelikey: explain more cause I know I'm just missing something simple
[02:14] <intelikey> dxdt it's a drop down menu in a selection box
[02:15] <dxdt> under what?
[02:15] <intelikey> upper right of the config window
[02:15] <intelikey> in the window it self
[02:15] <intelikey> says main pannel    or some such
[02:16] <dxdt> not from what I can see.  I'm just doing right click on panel >> configure panel
[02:16] <intelikey> yes  and in that window that opens when you do that.  look for the menu of which pannel
[02:17] <dxdt> on the "Arrangement" options?  someone might have to I'm looking all over and I don't see that option :-/
[02:18] <Blu3> mmmh, yummy kernel panic with gutsy
[02:18] <intelikey> Blu3 oh nice.  not syncing ?
[02:19] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I'm not seeing a panel choice menu either.
[02:19] <Blu3> not sure.  kaboom during boot process.  nothing specific, too long of a scroll to see the original cause.  i'd have to hook up my serial cable and i'm too lazy to do that right now
[02:19] <dxdt> I've done it before and I remember the solution being really obscure and improperly placed
[02:20] <intelikey> TeraDyne not a menu a list box with drop down menu in it.
[02:22] <dxdt> intelikey: actually I just googled around and found a listing of a known bug for it.  So since this is a fresh kubuntu install, lemme update and see if it appears
[02:22] <intelikey> dxdt k  good idea
[02:23] <Silent_G> ok
[02:23] <Silent_G> somebody here told me to instal fxglx or what is it, i installed like the manual said on kubuntu site, restarted X but X didnt start, somebody can help? i need 3D Accel!!
[02:24] <jhutchins> Known bug != fixed bug.  Is it closed?
[02:24] <dxdt> not closed but there is a work around apparently using the touch command on a kde settings file I guess
[02:25] <jhutchins> dxdt: Ok, package update is not gonna fix it then.  (Might fix something else, who knows?)
[02:25] <intelikey> now anyone with clue-by-four care to look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37968
[02:26] <intelikey> jhutchins maybe ?
[02:26] <jhutchins> Sure.
[02:26] <Silent_G> somebody here told me to instal fxglx or what is it, i installed like the manual said on kubuntu site, restarted X but X didnt start, somebody can help? i need 3D Accel!!
[02:27] <intelikey> !beryl
[02:27] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <intelikey> Silent_G maybe in   #ubuntu-effects    if not in here
[02:28] <kamui> how would one go about restricting a pointer device to a specific range?
[02:28] <dxdt> Silent_G: fglrx is the ATI made driver for ATI cards that is needed to get 3 acceleration in cards not yet supported by the open source ati/radeon drivers.
[02:28] <Silent_G> hmm
[02:28] <kamui> eg, I have a tablet and dual monitors, but I only want to use the tablet within the confines of the first monitor due to the terrible stretching ratio that occurs
[02:28] <Silent_G> so i must first install the driver from their site?
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ugh, init img...
[02:29] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yep
[02:29] <Silent_G> cause the howto said that there's too choiced, install from their site, or just install fglrx
[02:29] <jhutchins> intelikey: Where'd you get that 464 kernel?  Build it yourself?
[02:29] <hitmanWilly> ok, let me go through this some more and see if anything pops out
[02:29] <jhutchins> intelikey: I presume that's the one that's giving you trouble.
[02:30] <draik> How do I locate the key to all of my repos?
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: what's on hdc1?
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: or does it even exist?
[02:31] <intelikey> as i was saying i have a barrowed initrd.img that will let me boot after the ten minute time out and the commands issued   but that can't be preminant
[02:31] <intelikey> hitmanWilly that's the location of the install on that box
[02:32] <jhutchins> intelikey: I'd use mkinitrd directly.
[02:32] <jhutchins> intelikey: Which kernel is the problem?
[02:32] <intelikey> jhutchins i did.  did you look at the pastebin ?
[02:32] <intelikey> jhutchins all.
[02:33] <draik> In kTorrent, what does it mean when a download failed because "too many open files"?
[02:33] <intelikey> i removed the 2.6.15-28-55-386  and treid a 2.6.15-26  and a -23  nothing works.
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, sounds like something is missing from the init img if i had to guess, ie filesystem drivers
[02:34] <jhutchins> intelikey: There's a lot there.  Looks like you were doing mkinitramfs, not mkinitrd.  Also looks like you might have some other files left over from another process.
[02:34] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah.   except i can mount the root file system from the busybox shell
[02:34] <jhutchins> intelikey: So none of the kernels currently works, right?
[02:34] <hitmanWilly> ok, nm, saying it doesn't exist vice not readable
[02:34] <jhutchins> intelikey: Stock kernel doesn't work?
[02:35] <intelikey> jhutchins mkinitrd is used with 2.6.13+ ???
[02:35] <marcus> hello i have weird drop shadow glitches from dialog boxes in beryl. is there a fix?
[02:35] <intelikey> jhutchins they were all stock  streight from the repos.
[02:35] <jhutchins> intelikey: Sorry, I don't know for sure.
[02:35] <jhutchins> intelikey: Ok, then you've got cruft somewhere that's keeping the install from completing.
[02:36] <TeraDyne> marcus: Try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <intelikey> jhutchins ok.  i'm burning packages to cd now so i can try reinstalling things
[02:36] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, maybe its having problems following the hdc link to sdc...
[02:36] <intelikey> hitmanWilly there is no sd?
[02:36] <intelikey> dapper
[02:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: I'd back up /boot, purge it, then try installing.  You migh want to manually purge the kernel libs as well.
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> iirc the newer kernels use sd devices
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> oh, dapper, nm
[02:37] <jhutchins> It's saying that sd isn't updated properly.
[02:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: Perhaps there's an sd package?
[02:37] <intelikey> jhutchins errrm can't use an install cd on that thing.  i simply cloned this box i'm running here.  and all is well here.
[02:38] <intelikey> jhutchins sd ?
[02:38] <jhutchins> This is where Gentoo falls down too, trying to maintain legacy systems running the 2.4 kernel, and every week there's some update that can't handle the old kernel.
[02:38] <jhutchins> intelikey: sd is a new approach to SATA iirc.
[02:39] <intelikey> jhutchins and hitmanWilly sorry for any confusion on that point.   there are no scsi or sata pata drives in that box only one ide disk   and dapper did not use scsi emulation so there should not be any sd devices there
[02:39] <jhutchins> Ah.
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> ok, my bad there
[02:39] <jhutchins> 'Cause it does complain about sd there.
[02:40] <intelikey> no it doesn't complain about sd   sd came in with the hitman   :)
[02:40] <jhutchins> intelikey: That _looks_ like errors I've had with mkinitrd when I didn't pass the correct options, or was running in the wrong relative dir or something.
[02:40] <jhutchins> [   34.902019]  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: no scsi, huh? look at line 147...
[02:41] <intelikey> jhutchins it's defenately the initd*.img  and i have rebuilt several   none work.
[02:41] <jhutchins> hitmanWilly: You'll notice it also initializes the EISA bus.
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> [   32.462412]  SCSI subsystem initialized
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins: yeah...
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> i think the newer kernels all use sd device names with hd symlinks for compatibility
[02:42] <jhutchins> A knowledgable lad explained to me that you have to actually load and initialize the drivers to determine if the hardware is there - or at lest, it's the most expedient method.
[02:43] <jhutchins> intelikey: Like I said, I'd klean up everything that's installed with the kernel and see if apt can get one set up correctly.
[02:43] <intelikey> if there were any scsi device then after it tried to init the bus it would list devices....
[02:44] <jhutchins> I think it loads the SCSI support in case there's something on the USB as well.
[02:44] <jhutchins> Or in case something's hotplugged.
[02:44] <Graham> Sup
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> ok, makes sense there...
[02:45] <intelikey> [   34.902019]  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods  <<<< would indicate that it tried to insert module sd and no hardware was there.
[02:46] <teetanian> OMG!!!
[02:46] <intelikey> but at any rate.  uninstalling the kernel and mkini* and what else ?
[02:46] <teetanian> when this thing goes into Screensaver there's no way to bring it back again
[02:47] <teetanian> plaese yelp!!!
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> :)
[02:47] <teetanian> help!
[02:47] <intelikey> teetanian no way ?
[02:47] <teetanian> wtf is wrong with this
[02:48] <Graham> What?
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> teetanian: ok, what exactly happens?
[02:48] <intelikey> [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]   login and issue  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart     or  sudo killall xscreensaver  <!sp/>
[02:48] <Graham> Is it a specialised openGL screensaver or something?
[02:48] <teetanian> ok I don't really know, everything is fine. When is idle, me not using it, the screen goes dark and there's no way of bring it up again
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> teetanian: is the screensaver up or is it just a blank screen?
[02:49] <kain_> i am trying to install kubuntu on an older pc with win server 2003 on it it keeps going REALLY slow
[02:49] <teetanian> hitmanWilly: no is a dark, black screen yet lit
[02:49] <kain_> openSUSE says yast needs more memory
[02:49] <kain_> any suggestions?
[02:49] <intelikey> errrr ati isn't it teetanian
[02:49] <hitmanWilly> teetanian: are your keyboard/mouse usb?
[02:49] <teetanian> hitmanWilly: I've tried ctrl+alt+backspace but wasn't working
[02:50] <teetanian> intelikey: nope intel extreme 840 or something like that
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> brb
[02:52] <teetanian> hitmanWilly: htis is a laptop
[02:53] <Nyle> my eyes hurt
[02:53] <TeraDyne> Nyle: ?
[02:54] <Nyle> I think its from staring at the monitor too long
[02:54] <teetanian> I am using a laptop
[02:54] <TeraDyne> Nyle: That's why I use a dark theme now. Easier on the eyes.
[02:54] <Nyle> my eyes feel like they are burning up
[02:54] <intelikey> jhutchins anything besides the kernel initrd-tools and extfstools  i should replace ?
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Nyle turn down the brightness
[02:54] <Nyle> and when I close my eyes
[02:54] <Nyle> it burns even more
[02:55] <TeraDyne> Nyle: Turn down the brightness a little and use a darker theme. That was my solution for that "bug".
[02:55] <Nyle> I did
[02:55] <Nyle> it helps a little
[02:55] <Silent_G> i need help on ATI please somebody
[02:55] <intelikey> Nyle which is worth more to you?  your eyes or your computer ?
[02:55] <Nyle> I think its this yellow nasty bright light in my room
[02:56] <Nyle> the light bulb is an ugly shade of yellow light
[02:56] <Nyle> intelikey: obviously my eyes.
[02:56] <Nyle> intelikey: why would you even ask that?
[02:56] <TeraDyne> Nyle: use white bulbs indors. yellow bulbs will kill your eyes faster than your monitor.
[02:56] <intelikey> Nyle one never knows.
[02:56] <Nyle> TeraDyne: I know man
[02:56] <Nyle> what if i turn it off and use a dark theme
[02:57] <Nyle> I am using kwin-baghira right now
[02:57] <Nyle> what dark theme looks good that you recommend?
[02:57] <Nyle> not totally black mind you, just darker than what I have
[02:57] <TeraDyne> Nyle: I use a dark theme and I rarely have any lights on in my room, save for a small lamp for schoolwork.
[02:57] <Nyle> ohhhhh
[02:57] <Nyle> I know the problem
[02:58] <Nyle> I'm runnign 1600x1200
[02:58] <TeraDyne> Nyle: http://www.kde-looks.org has some good themes.
[02:59] <teetanian> why on earth is Screen Saver on Desktop? Makes no sense, should've been in monitor or look'n'feel, too me freaing 2 hours to find it
[03:00] <hitmanWilly> teetanian: and wait till someone with the same problem comes on and complains because its not somewhere else :P
[03:00] <intelikey> teetanian cause the desktop is where it affects
[03:00] <Nyle> well
[03:00] <Nyle> screen savers were not made for the desktop
[03:00] <Nyle> they were made specifically for monitors
[03:00] <Nyle> old monitors couldn't stay on constantly or the image/text woul burn into the screen
[03:01] <intelikey> teetanian but how hard is it to find ?   right click the desktop and configure.....
[03:01] <Nyle> so the invented screensavers
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> Nyle: not so much old monitors, but crt's with a text prompt just sitting there
[03:01] <Nyle> teetanian: this is why I like to use kcontrol instead of this piece of crap control panel they give you in kubuntu
[03:01] <Nyle> teetanian: just hit search type screensaver and you're good to go
[03:01] <intelikey> Nyle yes and the screensaver was started by what and where did it run ?
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> i think they're going back to kcontrol in 4 IIRC
[03:02] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Strangely enough, it's in the same place as in Windows, in the desktop config app.
[03:02] <intelikey> started by the window manager and ran in the base window.
[03:02] <Graham> Hey, I've got a problem trying to run xgl on my computer, when I start it I get flashing triangles on the screen that flash then after the screen is screwed up, displays incorrectly and somehow uses half of the screen.
[03:02] <intelikey> TeraDyne yeah    aint that odd.
[03:02] <Nyle> intelikey: I'm not arguing where it should or shouldn't be concerning is configuration or where it runs or what it effects.
[03:02] <intelikey> :)
[03:03] <Nyle> I think you're one of those people who like to prove points.
[03:03] <Nyle> TeraDyne: start using kcontrol, its the best
[03:03] <Nyle> er..
[03:03] <Nyle> not TeraDyne
[03:03] <TeraDyne> Nyle: I do. I changed the menu entry.
[03:04] <intelikey> kmenueditor
[03:04] <intelikey> :)
[03:04] <Nyle> it was teetanian
[03:04] <hitmanWilly> or use a different WM...
[03:04] <Nyle> I was talking to him but I guess irssi completed your nick
[03:04] <TeraDyne> You use irssi as well?
[03:04] <Nyle> nothing else satisfies me.
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> that makes 3 :P
[03:05] <Nyle> what?
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> irssi users
[03:05] <TeraDyne> I stopped using Konversation thanks to irssi
[03:05] <Nyle> word man
[03:05] <Nyle> word!
[03:05] <intelikey> prove all things, hold fast that which is good.
[03:06] <TeraDyne> Wow, noatun doesn't work?
[03:06] <Nyle> noatun < mplayer
[03:06] <Nyle> kaboodle is krazy
[03:06] <TeraDyne> Is mplayer skinnable?
[03:06] <Nyle> kaffeine is blah
[03:06] <Nyle> YES! it is
[03:07] <intelikey> vlc
[03:07] <Nyle> vlc is blah
[03:07] <Nyle> mplayer is bomb
[03:07] <cs5> Has anyone had issues with the ubuntu fiesty freezing during an instal.
[03:07] <TeraDyne> Nice. Time to get some skins...
[03:07] <BluesKaj> TeraDyne, does irssi have a gui , or are you chatting in the terminal ?... i tire of the barebones thing after a bit :)
[03:07] <TeraDyne> bbl
[03:07] <hitmanWilly> the nice thing about vlc is that it has its own decoder
[03:07] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: in a Konsole window.
[03:07] <BluesKaj> yeah
[03:07] <Nyle> BluesKaj: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/irssi.jpg
[03:08] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj: yes, an ncurses one :P
[03:08] <TeraDyne> later all. *sets away*
[03:08] <BluesKaj> i've used irssi in emergencies at the TTY prompt when X was crashing due to my crappy drivers a while back
[03:09] <Nyle> I have a machine that stays on 24/7/365
[03:09] <Nyle> my irssi runs on it under screen
[03:09] <Nyle> I just detach and attatch to it through ssh
[03:09] <BluesKaj> BBL , gonna watch some tv with wifey
[03:09] <cs5> Anyone at all?
[03:09] <Nyle> TeraDyne: btw check that screenshot
[03:09] <Nyle> http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/screenshots/irssi.jpg
[03:10] <intelikey> cs5 !i    never seen fiesty, and dont expect that to change.
[03:10] <cs5> it is nice,but ill be damned if it'll instal
[03:11] <hitmanWilly> cs5: where during the install does it freeze?
[03:11] <cs5> sits at 15% checking fs, and second time at the part that asks about importing identities
[03:12] <hitmanWilly> cs5: did you test the install medium?
[03:12] <intelikey> seems that only about half the people in #kubuntu actually use ubuntu+kde aka kubuntu
[03:12] <cs5> another time it wouldnt even finish loading the instal window
[03:12] <cs5> yes it is verified and the md5 checksum matches
[03:13] <cs5> it is a cd iso burned onto dvd with kubuntu
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> cs5: ok, you may want to try a memtest and make sure that checks out
[03:13] <cs5> which i have been assureed would work and it did for all intensive purposes
[03:13] <cs5> except install
[03:13] <cs5> lol
[03:14] <neonflx> hello everyone
[03:14] <BluesKaj> intensive purposes ... i like that :)
[03:14] <cs5> its all good with windows kubuntu, even hiren and xtreme boot tests all is good hardware
[03:14] <cs5> memory inclusive
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> cs5: you may want to try a normal cd, the dvd should work ok, but you never know
[03:15] <cs5> no other people having the same issue? I am cd free unfortunatly, but i might give that a whirl tomorrow. Verified means verified though right?
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> yeah, it should
[03:15] <cs5> Ubuntus utilities said the disk is perfect....
[03:15] <cs5> lol
[03:16] <BluesKaj> was running windows on vmware but couldn't  install drivers to get audio and my KB functions to work ..they appeared to install , but wouldn't work
[03:16] <cs5> im lost good to see i am not alone. will try the cd and let the channel know how it works
[03:16] <BlackBsd> hi does anyone use the dell laptops with kubuntu?
[03:16] <neonflx> i have a question i installed kubuntu 64 and was having issues with beryl, vmware  then i installed kubuntu 32 and most of my issues are gone so basically it is the old ? 64 vs 32 i am happy now with the 32 on a dual core E6600 2 gig ram 7950gts and raptors on an Asus p5n32-e
[03:17] <neonflx> i see no major difference between the 32 and 64 on my untrained eye annnyway
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> neonflx: yeah, probably, 64 bit support is still pretty flaky for a lot of stuff
[03:18] <BlackBsd> what is the difference from kubuntu and debian
[03:19] <Graham> Hey, XGL seems to screw up my desktop and I don't know why, it does this: http://www.13cliff.co.uk/help.png
[03:20] <neonflx> hitmanWilly i do agree i could not be happier, i been longing to switch for a while i just nebver got around to it i have 4 sys and an additional sys running clarkconnect (still tweking it) and installled Kubuntu and all of them
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> eventually, the move to 64 will have to happen due to ram addressing issues if nothing else
[03:23] <adydas> ok small q, if i blank my main os drive can i add my secondary drive without losing data and formatting it?
[03:23] <adydas> i want to recover a naff partitioon
[03:24] <Silent_G> hello
[03:25] <Silent_G> can somebody explain me how to downgrade Xorg on kubuntu?
[03:31] <intelikey> Silent_G sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg x-window-system
[03:34] <zaba> hi
[03:35] <zaba> i've got few stupid questions
[03:35] <intelikey> can you ask them ?
[03:35] <zaba> is anyone here with a lot of patience?;)
[03:35] <intelikey> ooops i had one too.
[03:35] <zaba> :D
[03:36] <intelikey> :)
[03:36] <intelikey> zaba prolly not.  but ask anyway
[03:36] <zaba> first my question is haw can i install skype in ubuntu? there is no skype in aplication manager
[03:37] <intelikey> !skype
[03:37] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:37] <intelikey> and next ?
[03:37] <zaba> wow mybe since today i would eve like bots ;)
[03:38] <Silent_G> intelikey, i want downgrade not install, to version 7,1
[03:38] <intelikey> Silent_G same process just append the version
[03:38] <Silent_G> hm
[03:38] <Silent_G> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg=7.1 x-window-system=7.1?
[03:39] <zaba> are there any other clients for skype protocol?
[03:39] <Silent_G> like that intelikey ?
[03:39] <intelikey> robably not the x-window-system version....  but yeah like that.
[03:39] <Silent_G> ok
[03:39] <Silent_G> thankz alot man
[03:40] <intelikey> zaba i think there is one....  don't recall the name toh
[03:40] <Silent_G> intelikey, E: Version '7.1' for 'xserver-xorg' was not found
[03:40] <intelikey> tho
[03:40] <Silent_G> :S
[03:40] <intelikey> though
[03:40] <intelikey> thow
[03:40] <intelikey> Silent_G view the packages on the site
[03:41] <intelikey> !packages
[03:41] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:41] <intelikey>    ^
[03:41] <intelikey> get the version info from there.
[03:42] <intelikey> ok i'm outa here.    see jew guys men'yana
[03:47] <zaba> i've got skype:D
[03:47] <zaba> oh he's gone...
[03:48] <zaba> thank him from me please...
[03:50] <enzo_> Hello everyone
[03:50] <enzo_> How do I get/find the key to a my repos?
[03:52] <hero> are there drawers that can be added to the kde panel?
[03:53] <RodSteel> what is everyone's preferred file sharing client for kubuntu?
[03:53] <RodSteel> i was using frostwire on ubuntu but i don't see it in the kubuntu repositories - is it compatible?
[03:53] <enzo_> RodSteel: Do you mean to download music or torrents?
[03:53] <RodSteel> no, i have bit torrent
[03:54] <RodSteel> ktorrent rather
[03:54] <cs5> how can you shutdown an app that is frozen?
[03:54] <hero> ktorrent rocks
[03:54] <enzo_> RodSteel: In that case, I use GTK_Gnutella. Works for me
[03:54] <RodSteel> for music and whatnot
[03:54] <hero> cs5: try xkill
[03:54] <enzo_> cs5: sudo xkill <app name>
[03:54] <cs5> xkill then app name?
[03:54] <cs5> ok
[03:54] <cs5> ty
[03:55] <RodSteel> enzo gtk_gnutella - is that in the repositories?
[03:55] <RodSteel> i have the apollon install file on my desktop, anyone like apollon?
[03:55] <enzo_> Yes, it's in the repos
[03:56] <anobe> im having some problems getting ubuntu to dual boot on a windows computer, i need to know what "use entire disk" means
[03:56] <RodSteel> anobe, are you partitioning the drive?
[03:56] <anobe> yes
[03:56] <enzo_> anobe: It means "Goodbye windows"
[03:56] <anobe> ah
[03:56] <anobe> ok
[03:56] <RodSteel> do you have windows installed currently
[03:56] <RodSteel> ?
[03:56] <anobe> yes
[03:56] <hitmanWilly> anobe: that means it wipes out the entire drive and installs kubuntu
[03:56] <RodSteel> ok, vista?/
[03:56] <anobe> xp
[03:57] <enzo_> Manually edit the partition/drive
[03:57] <RodSteel> ah, i don't recall if xp has a partitioning tool.. anyone know?
[03:57] <enzo_> XP doesn't
[03:57] <enzo_> I used PartitionMagic
[03:57] <enzo_> Which happened to be full version and landed from the sky right onto my desk...
[03:58] <RodSteel> would gparted work?  that should be included on the boot disk
[03:58] <BlackBsd> how can i tell if my bluetooth works on feisty?
[03:58] <BlackBsd> do i need to enable something?
[03:58] <anobe> so, if i used partion 1, and use freed space?
[03:59] <anobe> or what do i got to do to get this to work..
[03:59] <RodSteel> anobe, you need to keep windows on it's own partition and then you can install kubuntu using the "use largest free space" option.
[04:00] <cs5> hero, enzo, ty. nice tool. did the trick, but you already knew that didnt you
[04:00] <anobe> well, however that free space, but however it says that its not enough room
[04:00] <hero> cs5: it's one of those "phew" kind of things :)
[04:00] <cs5> ;) you know it.
[04:00] <RodSteel> if you do it manually make sure you have a partition for the swap file - maybe 1.5 gigs (designate it for swap usage).
[04:00] <hero> now, if i could figure out a drawer-type thing for the panel, i'd be set.
[04:01] <anobe> how do i do that is my question
[04:01] <RodSteel> anobe, i'd also suggest that you setup a separate partition for your home folder (again, mount it to "/home" - it's an option in the drop down menu)
[04:02] <anobe> so, do a manuel and set it to /home?
[04:02] <RodSteel> anobe, if you have a sep. partition for the home folder then you can install a newer version of the os or just overwrite it with a fresh install *without* overwritting all the personal files in your home folder
[04:03] <RodSteel> some people prefer to do it that way.. it's just a personal preference
[04:03] <anobe> not sure on that, it says that my free space is 8mbs,
[04:04] <^V^> anobe: you probably need to shrink your windows partition
[04:04] <RodSteel> but yes, if you mount one partition for "swp" - swap file, another for /root (os will reside here - save at least 10 or 12 gigs for this one) and the mount the last partition as "/home"
[04:04] <RodSteel> anobe, there are really useful guides as to how to do this.  google it
[04:05] <RodSteel> screen shots and what not would probably be very helpful
[04:05] <anobe> it doesn't explain it all
[04:05] <RodSteel> anobe, what doesn't - the help guides?
[04:05] <RodSteel> there should be others, i know i ran across one that was very helpful
[04:06] <anobe> it don't cover all problems, like how do i set a smaller partion. or anything like that, nore do i change windows partion on a xp
[04:06] <enzo_> How do I get/find the key to a my repos?
[04:06] <anobe> currently computer says i have 8 mbs of room
[04:07] <^V^> anobe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:07] <anobe> been there
[04:07] <anobe> don't help
[04:07] <RodSteel> again, you need three partitions - all 3 should be something like sd3 format. mount the largest to /home, the 12 gig partition to /root, and the 1.5 - 2 gig parition to swp
[04:08] <enzo_> RodSteel: You mean Ext3
[04:08] <RodSteel> anobe, i gotta go.  sorry i can be more help.  good luck with it.
[04:08] <RodSteel> enzo, yes.  thank you
[04:08] <RodSteel> obviously, i am no pro.  i'm learning just as you are.  it's painful sometimes
[04:09] <level1> Hi, my computer has been (only on rare occasion) doing a partial suspend where it turns off the fans and other devices but leaves the processor running... not only does there not seem to be a way to bring the computer back, but if I don't notice, it can overheat the processor... this is on a laptop
[04:09] <cs5> Anyone know if you can encrypt your requests in ktorrent?
[04:09] <level1> Hi, my computer has been (only on rare occasion) doing a partial suspend where it turns off the fans and other devices but leaves the processor running... not only does there not seem to be a way to bring the computer back, but if I don't notice, it can overheat the processor... this is on a laptop
[04:09] <cs5> Cogeco blocks torrents all the time
[04:09] <level1> oops, sorry double post
[04:15] <anobe> will steam work on linux?
[04:15] <anobe> or work with ubuntu?
[04:16] <level1> anobe: whats steam again?  is that wine?
[04:16] <crocodile> I wish KDE wasn't so hard to customize
[04:16] <anobe> steam is a online gaming thing
[04:16] <level1> crocodile: what do you mean?  kde is super easy to customize
[04:16] <level1> crocodile: what are you trying to do?
[04:16] <anobe> it runs half life and cs
[04:16] <crocodile> level1 - it really isn't, I'm talking about appearance GUI overhauls
[04:16] <level1> anobe: under wine you mean?
[04:16] <anobe> no,
[04:16] <anobe> wine?
[04:16] <level1> crocodile: you mean you want different widget styles?
[04:17] <level1> anobe: its a "compatability layer" to run windows apps on linux and unix
[04:17] <level1> anobe: its pretty cool, but it only works some of the time
[04:17] <crocodile> level1 - no, it's a very big hassle changing color schemes, button styles, themes, ,etc
[04:17] <level1> crocodile:
[04:17] <level1> crocodile: I don't know what your talking about
[04:18] <level1> head over to kcontrol and take a look
[04:18] <crocodile> yes and it is still a hassle, especially with buttons
[04:18] <level1> the first section is appearence... you can install themes, change widget styles, configure colors
[04:19] <level1> crocodile: are you messing with me?  button styles is the easiest thing there... go to "style" and choose one
[04:19] <crocodile> try changing from a light to dark setup and you will see what I mean.
[04:19] <level1> crocodile:
[04:19] <level1> crocodile: thats easy to, thats in colors
[04:19] <level1> In fact, I'm using a dark color scheme right now
[04:20] <level1> crocodile: whats the problem?  maybe theres something wrong for you
[04:21] <level1> dark color schemes are a problem because a lot of programs "don't agree", especially webpages
[04:21] <level1> I wish the khtml guys would make the webpages just ignore system settings
[04:21] <crocodile> the problem is not all buttons change color or your left with black text on a dark button or white text on a light button
[04:21] <crocodile> making it near impossible to read, and the configuration a hassle
[04:22] <level1> crocodile: where? in the window itself?
[04:23] <level1> I never had that problem... are you pressing "apply" to early?
[04:23] <crocodile> I'm working it out, my point is the dialogues and method of changing it is very crude and will hopeflly be better in kde4
[04:24] <level1> hmm.... I don't see what your getting at
[04:25] <Darkrift> is superkaramba the only way to get "widgets" in linux?
[04:25] <crocodile> It's overlly complex, to sum it up.
[04:25] <Darkrift> cause superkaramba doesnt even work 90% of the time for me
[04:26] <crocodile> there's too many unrelated menus and options to click through to get the desired effect
[04:26] <CrunchyFerrett> *sigh*
[04:26] <CrunchyFerrett> How does one go about installing the DiVX codec?
[04:26] <CrunchyFerrett> Or the Divx web player?
[04:33] <NotFaint> Who knows what I need to do to have java applets supported in web pages in Kubuntu, using Firefox?
[04:44] <level1> Darkrift: people seem to really like superkaramba, but I don't find it useful at all... in kde 4 theres going to be a much cooler thing called plasma
[04:44] <level1> that'll be out in october
[04:44] <NotFaint> whoops, I think maybe google is my friend
[04:44] <fibonacci> Is the next release of Kubuntu gonna be shipped with KDE 4 ?
[04:44] <K-Ryan> !kde4
[04:44] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:44] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[04:44] <K-Ryan> That wasn't much help...
[04:50] <mrwilloby> when I logged back in after doing nothing significant, all my fonts in Firefox look bad, thinner than they were before
[04:50] <mrwilloby> I made sure anti-aliasing is on, and that didn't change anything
[04:53] <ubuntu_> hi everybody
[04:53] <mrwilloby> anyone know what I can do?
[04:53] <ubuntu_> i have a problem with my kubuntu installation
[04:53] <ubuntu_> the CD is scrapped
[04:53] <ubuntu_> scratched
[04:57] <kernco> ubuntu_, then you'll have to burn a new CD
[04:57] <kernco> mrwilloby, what was your problem?
[04:57] <mrwilloby> all of the sudden my fonts have started looking bad after a restart
[04:58] <mrwilloby> in Firefox they are too thin
[04:58] <mrwilloby> and the spacing seems kind of weird
[05:00] <sevenseeker> Hello
[05:01] <sevenseeker> is anyone here an openvpn ninja?
[05:01] <acidBURN> is Gutsy going to use KDE 4 ??? :-S
[05:01] <TeraDyne> acidBURN: No, and neither will Gutsy
[05:02] <TeraDyne> acidBURN: Gutsy+1*
[05:02] <acidBURN> TeraDyne: why not?
[05:03] <acidBURN> TeraDyne: hear that KDE 4 is going to be release this year...
[05:03] <TeraDyne> acidBURN: Won't be out in time for Gutsy, and I don't remember why for Gutsy+1. It was mentioned at the talk at aKademy.
[05:04] <acidBURN> TeraDyne: well that stinks... so it will be next year
[05:04] <sevenseeker> does anyone use openvpn client?
[05:04] <TeraDyne> acidBURN: They'll most likely have KDE4 repos that you can add.
[05:05] <TeraDyne> acidBURN: It just won't be in by default.
[05:05] <acidBURN> TeraDyne: they are working on a unified backend datbase, which got my interest...
[05:07] <anuar> hai
[05:07] <acidBURN> TeraDyne: KDE 4 is supposed to have better intergration within itself
[05:08] <TeraDyne> acidBURN: Sounds great. I'll probably add the repos when the KDE4 final is released.
[05:09] <stdin> it won't be in gutsy because it would be too new and possibly unstalbe
[05:09] <dr_willis> heh - ubuntu will proberly be up to Zany Zebra release by then.
[05:09] <acidBURN> TeraDyne: me too
[05:09] <stdin> it may or may not be in gutsy+1, depends
[05:09] <acidBURN> lets hope not
[05:12] <TeraDyne> stdin: I thought they said no to KDE4 in Gutsy because it wouldn't be out in time. Maybe I should watch the Kubuntu talk from aKademy again...
[05:12] <dr_willis> its best to not rush things. :)
[05:12] <stdin> it's not known the exact date of the release
[05:12] <TeraDyne> dr_willis: like Fedora?
[05:12] <acidBURN> Well, if it comes out by April of 2008 its not bad
[05:13] <stdin> tho it probably won't be out in time
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> there'll probably be third party repos available at least, once it comes out
[05:14] <acidBURN> its the unified backend, that I wanted........for a long time.
[05:15] <acidBURN> .......later
[05:18] <hasan> how can i extract contents of an iso image?
[05:18] <stdin> !iso
[05:18] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:19] <TeraDyne> stdin: I just listened to the talk. No Gutsy default KDE4 because it won't be out in time, and no Gutsy+1 because it'll be a Long-Time Support release.
[05:19] <stdin> is gutsy+1 lts? hmm, didn't get that memo :p
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> well, it would be about time
[05:20] <dr_willis> I never have figured out what support actually means.. :) other then bug fix's
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> every two years, right?
[05:20] <kernco> mrwilloby: that happened to me too, actually.  I never figured out what the problem was
[05:20] <dr_willis> We all want to be cuttin edge! :)
[05:22] <mrwilloby> kernco, did it ever get resolved?
[05:23] <TeraDyne> stdin: http://akademy.kde.org/conference/programme.php < Down toward the bottom is a link to download a video of the talk. Mr. Riddell is the one giving the presentation.
[05:23] <TeraDyne> stdin: The link is a small picture of a video icon.
[05:25] <stdin> I'll watch it as soon as kdelibs compiles
[05:25] <TeraDyne> stdin: Got a gcc screensaver going? XD
[05:26] <stdin> cmake has nice colors :)
[05:27] <kernco> mrwilloby, I've since reinstalled, which fixed it, but that's certainly not the optimal solution
[05:30] <K-Ryan> What do you guys think of a Dell Inspiron 7500?
[05:31] <K-Ryan> I'm getting it from someone for $50. It had Fluxbuntu on it and all it needs is a PCMCIA card or USB wireless
[05:31] <sevenseeker> inspirons are good machines, I have a 9300
[05:31] <K-Ryan> Err, *has*
[05:33] <lamlurkey> I need help with Kubuntu 7.04 I just installed it and cant get my password right
[05:33] <K-Ryan> !password
[05:33] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[05:33] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone seen a problem when switching users where their screen goes totally white and the system wont respond short of hitting the reset on the front of the case??? any idea on what to do to fix the issue?
[05:38] <CrunchyFerrett> Has anyone managed to get stage6.divx.com to work with Kubuntu?
[05:40] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[05:41] <CrunchyFerrett> Guess I'll take that as a no
[05:41] <CrunchyFerrett> Bummer
[05:41] <K-Ryan> Sorry =/
[05:43] <CrunchyFerrett> *sob*
[05:43] <hero> !pt
[05:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:43] <jeff__> Whats up room
[05:47] <ubuntu_> when you plug in a usb hd, how do you know which device it is?
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: sudo fdisk -l
[05:50] <ubuntu_> hitmanWilly: it's not showing up,  I only see my 3 internal drives.
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: if that doesn't show it, it's not being seen by the system
[05:54] <ubuntu_> hitmanWilly:ok I unplugged the drive from the hub and connected it directly. it automounted and showed up on the desktop.  cool
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: sounds like a hub issue...is it a 1.0 or 2.0 hub?
[05:56] <yurimxpxman> Google Desktop keeps opening behind other windows. Is there any way to prevent this?
[05:56] <quinton_> need decent iso burning program, any help?
[05:56] <yurimxpxman> quinton_: K3b
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> quinton_: k3b
[05:56] <yurimxpxman> lol
[05:56] <TeraDyne> quinton_: k3b
[05:56] <TeraDyne> lag...
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> that's 3...:)
[05:57] <quinton_> teradyne: doesnt kubuntu come with that?
[05:57] <TeraDyne> quinton_: ues
[05:57] <TeraDyne> yes*
[05:58] <quinton_> teradyne: does it like have t oburn to a cd... it is not listing the option for a dvd
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> quinton_: right click on one of the buttons, and add button
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> quinton_: down in the box on the bottom
[06:01] <TeraDyne> quinton_: Just select the iso from the file browser and it won't matter what type you're burning.
[06:03] <CrunchyFerrett> *stabs Konqeror*
[06:03] <CrunchyFerrett> *stabs Firefox*
[06:03] <TeraDyne> CrunchyFerrett: ?
[06:04] <CrunchyFerrett> heh
[06:04] <CrunchyFerrett> I want to take the laptop to bed and watch streamign movies as I go to sleep.
[06:04] <CrunchyFerrett> Alas, I cannot. Because none of the web browesers will stream divx movies
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> CrunchyFerrett: try copying the link into kaffeine or vlc or something
[06:05] <CrunchyFerrett> hm
[06:07] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: maybe install mplayer and mplayer plugin
[06:07] <mrwilloby> anyone have any new ideas of what to do if fonts in Firefox start looking terrible all of the sudden?
[06:08] <CrunchyFerrett> mplayer and its plugin are both installed.
[06:08] <dr_willis> reboot? - oh wait - thats the windows answer...
[06:08] <dr_willis> mrwilloby,  try making a  new user. see if the problem affects them also..
[06:09] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: and firefox still doesn't stream the videos?
[06:09] <mrwilloby> I'll try that, dr_willis
[06:09] <CrunchyFerrett> v: Nope. It keeps screaming about needing a plugin
[06:09] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: have you got a link I can check?
[06:10] <CrunchyFerrett> http://stage6.divx.com/Stargate-Atlantis/video/1209999/Stargate-Atlantis-3x13---Irresponsible
[06:11] <NickPresta> heh. I finally set up Vista today.
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> NickPresta: why?
[06:11] <NickPresta> hitmanWilly, I got a free copy of Vista Ultimate and I wanted to try it out (from a visual standpoint)
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> ok, i can sorta see that...
[06:13] <NickPresta> Visually, it's a huge improvement over XP. It's more intuitive, "pretty" and inviting. However, from a user's standpoint, and perhaps I'm biased, it feels clunky and build for the absolutely lowest common denominator.
[06:13] <NickPresta> and built*
[06:14] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: it doesn't play at all in firefox?
[06:15] <CrunchyFerrett> nope
[06:15] <CrunchyFerrett> I get redirected to a page saying "For linux support, try using mplayer"
[06:15] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[06:15] <^V^> Try to download the binary codecs from there
[06:16] <dr_willis> Wowsers - someone gave me a Pent 233MMX system!  HP even! :)
[06:16] <dr_willis> and it works. Heh.. live cd's are so handy
[06:16] <CrunchyFerrett> binaries.
[06:17] <dr_willis> I find a lot of the stuff in vista totally confusing and 'hidden' :)
[06:17] <draik> How do I backup a list of all my installed apps? APTonCD doesn't get all my apps.
[06:17] <dr_willis> but ive only used it a little bit so far.
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> draik: dpkg -l
[06:17] <NickPresta> dr_willis, I agree. I was just posting a similar comment on the forum I frequent. Control panels feel cluttered and it's hard to find specific settings.
[06:18] <CrunchyFerrett> v: Downloladed. Now to figure out how to install it :)
[06:18] <dr_willis> NickPresta,  they make up for it byu having every proigram have links/hyperlinks/thangs to every other program
[06:18] <draik> hitmanWilly: I did that, but I want it so that it's in a nice list for me to install again
[06:18] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: there should be a readme
[06:18] <dr_willis> NickPresta,  they at least DID add that 'search' stuff that helps ya find things
[06:18] <CrunchyFerrett> readme? README? What self respecting nerd ever reads the instructions!?!
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> draik: you want it in a file you can backup or print?
[06:19] <hero> CrunchyFerrett: i want "RTFM" for a vanity license plate :D
[06:19] <NickPresta> draik, try this (untested). It should work (do this in the console): sudo dpkg -l > apps.txt; for x in $( cat apps.txt | awk '{print $2;}' | sed '1,6d' ); do sudo apt-get install $x; done
[06:19] <K-Ryan> Ever wonder what genius decided to call it a "readme" ?
[06:19] <NickPresta> that will save all the packages you have to apps.txt, then loops over it and runs it through apt to install
[06:19] <MaxMex1404> hi everybody. i just downloaded the kubuntu live cd and wanted to boot it. it startes to boot but after some working of the computer it just stops with a black screen. i dont get any screen. i tried ubuntu aswellbut its the same problem. :S can any body help me with that>?
[06:19] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: usually the answer is RTFM :)
[06:20] <CrunchyFerrett> heh
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: probably the guy who first called it readme vice readthis or something else
[06:20] <^V^> I guess they were hoping people would read it... *sigh*
[06:21] <draik> hitmanWilly: backup and install later. Also, I need to find the keys for my repos
[06:21] <InVerSioN|LP>  i know it's not exactly on topic here, but i was wondering if there were any tech-related professionals who would be willing to help me with my resume?
[06:22] <NickPresta> InVerSioN|LP, you're better off at a generic, off-topic, "techie" channel/forum
[06:22] <CrunchyFerrett> ... So I just drop these into /usr/local/lib/codecs/ and try to reload the page?
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> draik: dpkg -l >> packages.txt will put it in that file so you know what to reinstall
[06:23] <InVerSioN|LP> NickPresta, any ideas where i can find a server/channel/forum?
[06:23] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: pretty much...
[06:23] <NickPresta> !google | InVerSioN|LP
[06:23] <ubotu> InVerSioN|LP: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[06:24] <CrunchyFerrett> oh yay. None of the default diretories actually exist
[06:24] <NickPresta> CrunchyFerrett, mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/codecs
[06:24] <MaxMex1404> hi. i installed backtrack 2 on my laptop. i wanted to try the kubuntu live cd but i cant boot it. it gets a black screen after some working. can anybody h elp me?
[06:25] <dr_willis> what is backtrack2?
[06:25] <MaxMex1404> another linux distru
[06:26] <^V^> MaxMex1404: how far does the livecd get?
[06:26] <MaxMex1404> i can choose in the live cd boot menu
[06:26] <MaxMex1404> it sartes booting
[06:26] <MaxMex1404> and stops
[06:26] <^V^> Any output?
[06:26] <MaxMex1404> i still get the kubutnu logo
[06:27] <MaxMex1404> but no error msg
[06:27] <MaxMex1404> it stops with the " _ " in the leftt upper corner. dont no how it is called. i am german. sorry :S
[06:27] <^V^> MaxMex1404: try to add "noacpi acpi=off noapic nolapic" to the boot line
[06:28] <^V^> no quotes
[06:28] <CrunchyFerrett> files copied
[06:28] <NickPresta> MaxMex1404, you might want to try:
[06:28] <CrunchyFerrett> lets see what happened
[06:28] <NickPresta> !de | MaxMex1404
[06:28] <MaxMex1404> yes
[06:28] <ubotu> MaxMex1404: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:28] <MaxMex1404> i will
[06:28] <MaxMex1404> oh thanks i didnt know there is a german channel
[06:28] <NickPresta> yessir =)
[06:29] <MaxMex1404> i will check this one later. but first try the bot line
[06:29] <^V^> MaxMex1404: are you using a laptop?
[06:29] <MaxMex1404> ys i am
[06:30] <MaxMex1404> ntel centrino with ati
[06:30] <^V^> ati :/
[06:30] <CrunchyFerrett> v: No joy. Is there a way I can verify that FF is even trying to use Mplayer?
[06:30] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: about:plugins
[06:30] <^V^> check what codecs it supports
[06:31] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: did you install MPlayer from ubuntu repos?
[06:33] <CrunchyFerrett> v: Yeah
[06:33] <CrunchyFerrett> THis is what shows as handling AVI (which is all divx is)
[06:33] <CrunchyFerrett> Windows Media Player Plugin
[06:33] <CrunchyFerrett>     File name: mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[06:33] <CrunchyFerrett>     mplayerplug-in 3.31
[06:33] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: don't paste here please
[06:33] <^V^> !pastebin
[06:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:33] <CrunchyFerrett> Yeah sorry. half way through the paste I realized I should have used pastebin
[06:35] <CrunchyFerrett> But everything Ive installed on this system has come from the ubunto repositories (with the exception of libdvdcss
[06:35] <dr_willis> given the # of unofficial repositories.. i can only think of 2 things ive had to compile from source..
[06:37] <MaxMex1404> ^V^ i tried it but it doesnt work. i get a lot of OK ouput while loading the kernel. all seems to be okay. it goes on booting and i get a sound after some time. seems to be the welcome sound. but i get a black screen. possible that the grafik card is not in the right mode?
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> MaxMex1404: what kind of gfx card do you have?
[06:39] <MaxMex1404> its an ati card
[06:39] <MaxMex1404> mobility radeon xl700
[06:39] <^V^> MaxMex1404: it gets furtherer though?
[06:39] <^V^> further*
[06:39] <MaxMex1404> yes it gets
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, i would think that would work alright
[06:47] <CrunchyFerrett> sigh
[06:47] <CrunchyFerrett> I think I surrender
[06:47] <CrunchyFerrett> Gonna have to switch back to XP
[06:47] <dr_willis> CrunchyFerrett,  give in to the dark side!
[06:47] <dr_willis> :)
[06:48] <CrunchyFerrett> heh. Im already on the dark side.
[06:48] <dr_willis> i dont even know what it is you are trying to do
[06:48] <CrunchyFerrett> Every machine I own (except this one) runs some version of Windows or another.
[06:48] <dr_willis> I just got a gift of 2 old machines.. :) one is a Pent 233MMX. :)
[06:48] <dr_willis> its running and on the network! heh
[06:48] <CrunchyFerrett> willis: Im just trying to play some divx movies embedded into a webpage.
[06:48] <CrunchyFerrett> Is that so hard?
[06:48] <dr_willis> personal web page?
[06:49] <dr_willis> or some web site?
[06:49] <Ash-Fox> No, easy
[06:49] <CrunchyFerrett> stage6.divx.com
[06:49] <dr_willis> I never want them to play IN the browser.
[06:49] <dr_willis> lets seee
[06:49] <K-Ryan> Where's the trash folder?
[06:49] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: I dont see your pastebin :)
[06:50] <sonoftheclayr> CrunchyFerrett: have you tried the media player extension for firefox? it doesn't embed them into the page but it let's you open them in a media player
[06:50] <Ash-Fox> Install 'gxineplugin', then get konqueror to reload it's plugins (or restart firefox if you use firefox)
[06:50] <Ash-Fox> Or install 'kaffeine-mozilla', probably the better choice thinking of it
[06:50] <CrunchyFerrett> oh. pastebin. right
[06:50] <CrunchyFerrett> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <^V^> did you paste the output?
[06:51] <draik> What is the point of APTonCD?
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Like what's the path to where trash is stored?
[06:51] <draik> It only captured what I just recently upgraded and nothing more
[06:51] <Ash-Fox> !aptoncd
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <dr_willis> Hmm  http://stage6.divx.com/   isent working right for me either.. the play button just dont play. :) i can download the video however.
[06:51] <dr_willis> Not srue if its my pc/connection slow or what.
[06:51] <Ash-Fox> draik, to make custom install cds
[06:51] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28926/
[06:51] <K-Ryan> =(
[06:52] <draik> Ash-Fox: Ok. So then what is remastersys for?
[06:52] <dr_willis> it wants 'adobe flash player' also.. heh odd...
[06:52] <NickPresta> for stage6, i always download the video and watch it locally
[06:52] <dr_willis> isent that what youtube uses?
[06:52] <root___> is there anybody help me to install php-ffmpeg
[06:52] <root___> in ubuntu
[06:52] <NickPresta> root___, there is a ubuntu channel, #ubuntu.
[06:52] <dr_willis> !find php-ffmpeg
[06:53] <ubotu> Package/file php-ffmpeg does not exist in feisty
[06:53] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: have you tried to close and then re-open firefox?
[06:53] <K-Ryan> !trash
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <K-Ryan> =(
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> draik, I think that's to make your own distro.
[06:53] <CrunchyFerrett> v: Yes, at various times
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> Based off ubuntu or something
[06:53] <^V^> K-Ryan: probably in .kde somewhere
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> root___: running irc in root or with sudo is not a good idea, fyi
[06:53] <K-Ryan> Wait
[06:53] <snowdonkey> Hi, how do I check how much space on my hard drive I'm taking up?
[06:53] <K-Ryan> But I'm running Fluxbox
[06:53] <CrunchyFerrett> gpcone11
[06:53] <root___> how's the installation of the php-ffmpeg/
[06:53] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: after you installed the codecs? Did your about:plugins output change?
[06:54] <root___> how to install in ubuntu
[06:54] <draik> Ok, so how do I go about making an actual Live DVD of my current settings? I want to give the same apps and settings to my friend's computer.
[06:54] <CrunchyFerrett> erm. After I installed the codecs, I have done a restart. I do not know if the plugins page changed
[06:54] <NickPresta> draik, you could try making an rsync snapshot
[06:54] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: well, a restart isn't really needed 99% of the time
[06:54] <NickPresta> although it isn't as perfect as a livecd of your computer would be
[06:55] <^V^> just could have closed the application and reloaded it
[06:55] <CrunchyFerrett> Thats what I meant
[06:55] <CrunchyFerrett> Not a full reboot, just restarted F
[06:55] <CrunchyFerrett> F
[06:55] <draik> I'm looking for something that will create a very similar (if not a perfect clone) of what I have installed and saved as settings
[06:56] <dr_willis> draik,  i saw that MintLinux had some tools to do that.. but it depends on your exact needs.  Mondo/Mindi can make a backup/restore cd/dvd set  thats a livecd. :)
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> oy
[06:57] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: can you paste the output of `ls /usr/local/lib/codecs`?
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> At this point, I think I have 4 or 5 different plugins trying to handle media files.
[06:59] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28927/
[07:00] <^V^> and `ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/`
[07:01] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28928/
[07:03] <^V^> Aha! you don't have any mplayerplug-in-dvx.* files in there ...
[07:03] <CrunchyFerrett> I dont have a whatsit now/
[07:04] <^V^> the files needed for divx I assume
[07:04] <mneptok> draik: what settings?
[07:05] <draik> dr_willis: I have mintLinux installed.
[07:06] <CrunchyFerrett> Hey.. wait a second here. How do I go about determining the version of mplayer-plugin I have installed?
[07:06] <draik> I don't know how to use Mondo/Mindi. I tried it once but nothing worked.
[07:06] <^V^> mplayerplug-in 3.31 is your version
[07:07] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: want to try get mplayer-plugin from CVS?
[07:07] <CrunchyFerrett> I think I need to.
[07:07] <^V^> I use a CVS version
[07:08] <stealthy> Anyone mind helping me fix EVE being a black screen? I've checked appdb to no avail
[07:08] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: what kubuntu version?
[07:08] <draik> mneptok: Just the settings for everything that I have installed and such
[07:08] <dr_willis> draik,   thats when it pays to read the docs..
[07:08] <CrunchyFerrett> v: 7.04
[07:08] <stealthy> I've got no idea why it's blackscreening, but any help would be appreciated.
[07:08] <dr_willis> draik,  the sysremaster thing is a linuix mint tool. i saw mention of it on the mint wiki pages.
[07:09] <dr_willis> draik,  ive not tried it however.
[07:09] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: I think you will need to run configure like so: `./configure --with-mozilla-home=/usr/lib/firefox/plugins`
[07:09] <draik> dr_willis: Yeah. I'm sure I followed everything to the dot, but still didn't work out. I did one with remastersys and tried to boot from it. Took me straight to GRUB
[07:09] <mneptok> draik: rsync
[07:09] <MaxMex1404> !de
[07:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:10] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: just make sure you uninstall the ubuntu version before getting a different one
[07:10] <stealthy> anyone?
[07:10] <stealthy> oh snap wrong channel, sorry
[07:10] <CrunchyFerrett> So... Remove Firefox?
[07:10] <^V^> no
[07:10] <^V^> remove the plugin only
[07:10] <^V^> mozilla-mplayer I think
[07:12] <CrunchyFerrett> its gone
[07:12] <^V^> okay
[07:12] <CrunchyFerrett> now dump that previous command in a console?
[07:13] <^V^> `sudo apt-get install cvs`
[07:13] <^V^> First we need to get it from CVS :)
[07:13] <^V^> also get build-essential
[07:13] <CrunchyFerrett> apt-get complete
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> cvs...oh this'll be fun
[07:13] <^V^> hitmanWilly: fun fun fun
[07:14] <CrunchyFerrett> build-essential is already at the latest version
[07:14] <^V^> cool
[07:14] <CrunchyFerrett> hitman: Should I get a priest?
[07:15] <^V^> make a cvs directory in your home
[07:15] <CrunchyFerrett> done
[07:15] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: what irc client are you using?
[07:15] <CrunchyFerrett> Konversation
[07:15] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: use tab-complete when typing peoples names :)
[07:16] <houdini> Konversation is the best
[07:16] <CrunchyFerrett> hitmanWilly:
[07:16] <CrunchyFerrett> ah
[07:16] <CrunchyFerrett> nifty
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> you rang?
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> :)
[07:16] <CrunchyFerrett> Um.. Your pizza is ready?
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:18] <CrunchyFerrett> Figures. I googled "CVS" and it sent me to the pharmacy.
[07:18] <NickPresta> lol
[07:18] <zuziailukaszek> hy people :)
[07:18] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: go to http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> CrunchyFerrett: for all the drugs you need for messing with the software type
[07:18] <^V^> and scroll to Compiling mplayerplug-in
[07:20] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: done?
[07:20] <CrunchyFerrett> Yeah Im there, sorry
[07:21] <CrunchyFerrett> I started following the directions on the webpage.
[07:21] <CrunchyFerrett> Never get ahead of the teacher!
[07:21] <^V^> just cd into cvs
[07:21] <^V^> and then type the two cvs commands
[07:21] <^V^> on that page
[07:21] <stealthy> I'm back, compositing disabled in xorg.conf
[07:22] <CrunchyFerrett> cvs commands do nw
[07:22] <CrunchyFerrett> done
[07:22] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: it should download the CVS version of mplayer source code
[07:22] <kalorin`> !ati
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:23] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: Yeah, it downloaded a whole slew of stuff
[07:23] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: all done?
[07:23] <^V^> not very large
[07:23] <CrunchyFerrett> done
[07:23] <^V^> okay
[07:23] <^V^> cd mplayer-plugin
[07:23] <^V^> sorry, that should be mplayerplug-in
[07:24] <CrunchyFerrett> there
[07:24] <_redbluefish> I just tried to install kubuntu to a usb hard drive.  I thought all went well.  I didn't think I had touched the "C-drive"
[07:24] <^V^> sudo apt-get install firefox-dev
[07:24] <_redbluefish> On reboot, I get Grub error 21
[07:25] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: Done
[07:25] <^V^> okay, from that directory: ./whatoptions.sh
[07:25] <^V^> and paste output
[07:26] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28930/
[07:27] <_redbluefish> so trying to boot from my xp c-drive doesn't work now.  How do I fix grub, or restore the windows loader to the mbr?
[07:27] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[07:28] <CrunchyFerrett> _redbluefish: To restore the Windows boot loader, boot to an XP recovery console and run "fixboot" and "fixmbr"
[07:28] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^:  done
[07:29] <^V^> run that shell script again
[07:29] <^V^> and paste
[07:29] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28931/
[07:30] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: your firefox is actually iceweasel?
[07:30] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: *blank stare*
[07:30] <^V^> lol
[07:31] <CrunchyFerrett> What the heck is an iceweasel
[07:31] <^V^> its a debina version of firefox, same app, different name/icon
[07:31] <^V^> debian*
[07:31] <CrunchyFerrett> Its what Kubuntu installed during inital setup
[07:31] <_redbluefish> anyone got any suggestions?
[07:32] <CrunchyFerrett> _redbluefish: To restore the Windows boot loader, boot to an XP recovery console and run "fixboot" and "fixmbr"
[07:32] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `ls /usr/lib/iceweasel` and paste
[07:33] <CrunchyFerrett> a directory called "plugins" and thats it.
[07:33] <^V^> okay
[07:33] <CrunchyFerrett> FFS, are you telling me I never had firefox installed in the first place/
[07:33] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `ls /usr/lib/firefox` and paste
[07:34] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: its 99.99% identical
[07:35] <CrunchyFerrett> that last .01% being the ability to play streaming divx movies. lol
[07:35] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28932/
[07:35] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: no, the name and icon :)
[07:35] <^V^> okay, should be fine
[07:36] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `./configure --prefix=/usr --with-mozilla-home=/usr/lib/firefox`
[07:37] <CrunchyFerrett> think it failed
[07:37] <kalorin`> why do I hate alternatives.... let me count the many Many MANY ways!
[07:37] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: paste please
[07:37] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28933/
[07:37] <^V^> kalorin`: what are you talking about?
[07:38] <kalorin`> it's just lame
[07:38] <kalorin`> you can't even install java in /usr/local/java if you want without having to jump through 100 hoops to get javac working right
[07:38] <kalorin`> or this or that
[07:39] <kalorin`> lets make a giant trail of symlinks all over the place instead of just using PATH like any sane person should
[07:39] <kalorin`> sillly
[07:39] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: I assume I need to install this "gthread" thing?
[07:39] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev`
[07:40] <CrunchyFerrett> rerun ./configure ?
[07:40] <^V^> the same options,. yes
[07:41] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: complete
[07:41] <^V^> Created makefiles?
[07:41] <CrunchyFerrett> it seems to have
[07:41] <^V^> can you paste output?
[07:43] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: btw, can you `ls *dvx*` in the mplayerplug-in cvs directory and let me know if you get any files output?
[07:43] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28935/
[07:43] <CrunchyFerrett> no such file or directory
[07:44] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: that's from the same directory as you ran configure?
[07:44] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^:  yes
[07:44] <^V^> okay...
[07:44] <^V^> try the same but change dvx to qt
[07:45] <CrunchyFerrett> should this be a recursive search?
[07:45] <^V^> no
[07:46] <CrunchyFerrett> should this be a recursive search?
[07:46] <CrunchyFerrett> er
[07:46] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28936/
[07:47] <^V^> okay, I think that's probably nbormal
[07:47] <^V^> normal*
[07:47] <^V^> run make
[07:47] <CrunchyFerrett> "run make" or "make"
[07:47] <^V^> make
[07:48] <CrunchyFerrett> well that spewed errors everywhere. Once sec I'll paste
[07:48] <^V^> :)
[07:48] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28937/
[07:49] <^V^> okay
[07:49] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `sudo apt-get install libx11-dev`
[07:50] <srbaker> folks.
[07:50] <srbaker> i'm having trouble with a netinstall
[07:50] <srbaker> anyone have experience in this?
[07:50] <srbaker> the tftp server is saying it served it up
[07:50] <level1> Hi, I'm playing a file that uses an ogm wrapper and is encoded in DviX... I have a very nice processor and I can run things like compiz no sweat, but the videos seem to lag a lot... should this be the case, and is there anything I can do?
[07:50] <srbaker> the client is showing a "File Not Found" error, though
[07:51] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: Already installed, but its also marked "to manual install"
[07:51] <srbaker> christ this one is being a pain
[07:52] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: can you paste that output?
[07:53] <^V^> and also an output of `ls /usr/include/X11`
[07:54] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28938/
[07:56] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `sudo apt-get install libxt-dev`
[07:57] <CrunchyFerrett> done
[07:57] <^V^> try rerun make
[07:58] <stoned> hello people of #kubuntu
[07:58] <stoned> how is it going?
[07:59] <stoned> is there a Mac OS X like panel that bounces/zooms or whatever in kde?
[07:59] <stoned> is it called a panel or something
[07:59] <stoned> docking panel
[07:59] <stoned> docker something
[07:59] <stoned> I can't find anything
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> kiba dock
[07:59] <stoned> what is the package name
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> kiba-dock or kibadock
[08:00] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: Well, somethign exploded. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28939/
[08:00] <stoned> search kiba returns nothing
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, i have it
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !info kiba
[08:00] <ubotu> Package kiba does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !info kiba-dock
[08:00] <stoned> yeh i told ya
[08:00] <ubotu> Package kiba-dock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> it's there
[08:01] <stoned> its where
[08:01] <CrunchyFerrett> !kiba
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <stoned> see
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> apt-cache search it
[08:01] <stoned> I did
[08:01] <stoned> I have seveas repo
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> kiba-dock - Description: Dock bar based on Akamaru engine
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[08:02] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: `sudo apt-get install libxpm-dev`
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it's in tr3v1no's eyecandy repo
[08:02] <stoned> do apt-cache policy kiiiibaa and tell me the repo
[08:02] <^V^> re-run make
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido>         500 http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty/eyecandy Packages
[08:04] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: Make complete.
[08:04] <stoned> thaNKS
[08:04] <stoned> OOPS
[08:04] <stoned> oop
[08:04] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: no errors?
[08:04] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: Bunch of warnings about non-virtual destructors, but no errors.
[08:04] <^V^> no big deal :)
[08:05] <^V^> ls -a of that directory
[08:05] <CrunchyFerrett> ahh, there are all those *dvx* and *qt* files
[08:05] <^V^> =D
[08:06] <CrunchyFerrett> Is it done?
[08:06] <^V^> almost :)
[08:06] <^V^> now you run `sudo make install`
[08:07] <CrunchyFerrett> done
[08:07] <^V^> restart firefox
[08:07] <^V^> and go to about:plugins
[08:07] <^V^> paste output
[08:09] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28940/
[08:09] <^V^> try play a video
[08:10] <CrunchyFerrett> *sob*
[08:10] <^V^> >?
[08:10] <CrunchyFerrett> It looked so promising.
[08:10] <^V^> still the same error?
[08:10] <CrunchyFerrett> It gave me a play button... it said it was buffering... and then it went to black.
[08:11] <^V^> hmm
[08:11] <CrunchyFerrett> Tried another vid..
[08:11] <CrunchyFerrett> It played the first frame, then stopped
[08:11] <CrunchyFerrett> OH GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?
[08:12] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: what is the link of the second vid?
[08:12] <CrunchyFerrett> http://stage6.divx.com/user/playscope/video/1280760/Lego-Star-Wars-The-Complete-Saga-PS3/Xbox360-Trailer
[08:13] <^V^> mine plays...
[08:13] <CrunchyFerrett> hang on a tic
[08:14] <rohan> how can i change the command used to suspend/hibernate the computer ? i'd like to use s2ram and not the default suspend/hibernate that comes with ubuntu
[08:16] <tucci> am having trouble with amarok - it won't open k3b when I click on "burn playlist"
[08:17] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^:  What version of mplayer are you using?
[08:17] <^V^> an old SVN version
[08:18] <^V^> MPlayer dev-SVN-r22351-4.1.2
[08:18] <^V^> what is yours?
[08:19] <^V^> just type "mplayer" in console
[08:19] <CrunchyFerrett> MPlayer 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1
[08:20] <CrunchyFerrett> gpcone11
[08:20] <CrunchyFerrett> crap
[08:21] <^V^> lol
[08:21] <kalorin`> it's cool man
[08:21] <kalorin`> all we see is *****'s on our end
[08:21] <^V^> ahaha
[08:21] <kalorin`> it automatically hides passwords :)
[08:21] <CrunchyFerrett> rofl
[08:21] <CrunchyFerrett> bash.org ftw
[08:21] <kalorin`> did you read that one?
[08:21] <^V^> http://www.bash.org/?244321
[08:21] <CrunchyFerrett> Ive read em all
[08:22] <kalorin`> yeah that's the one
[08:22] <kalorin`> cracked me up
[08:22] <kalorin`> I just pasted your ****'s and it appears to you as hunter2 cause it's your pw
[08:22] <kalorin`> oh, ok!
[08:22] <mahmoud> do u know guys how to unlock i phone?
[08:23] <CrunchyFerrett> Crikey. I think Im just hosed as far as getting this thing to play the divx movies.
[08:23] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: did you enjoy the compile from CVS excercise?
[08:23] <kalorin`> heh
[08:23] <CrunchyFerrett> heh. Enjoy is not the word I'd use. I did however learn a great deal from the process.
[08:23] <kalorin`> I hate the compile
[08:23] <jim__> are we EVER going to see Thunderbird 2.0 in Kubuntu?
[08:23] <^V^> It wasn't that bad, surely
[08:24] <^V^> SVN syntax is almost identical
[08:24] <CrunchyFerrett> I do sincerely thank you for the gift of your time.
[08:24] <kalorin`> are we ever going to see photoshop in linux?
[08:24] <^V^> if you want to get mplayer from SBN :)
[08:24] <^V^> SVN*
[08:24] <CrunchyFerrett> ... bah, why not. I dont have much else to do anyway
[08:24] <kalorin`> way past bedtime
[08:24] <kalorin`> have to shoot a wedding tomorrow
[08:24] <kalorin`> nighty all
[08:24] <^V^> bye
[08:25] <CrunchyFerrett> nite kalorin`
[08:25] <kal|gone> take me away!
[08:25] <kal|gone> :)
[08:25] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html and scroll to subversion
[08:25] <^V^> same instructions nearly, just replace CVS with sVN
[08:25] <^V^> SVN
[08:26] <CrunchyFerrett> k
[08:26] <CrunchyFerrett> gotta install subversion first
[08:26] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: those videos load at least yes?
[08:26] <^V^> sudo apt-get install svn
[08:26] <CrunchyFerrett> Sorta
[08:26] <^V^> well, the plugins are detected at least
[08:26] <^V^> mine work, not sure why
[08:27] <CrunchyFerrett> the plugin loads, starts buffering, and then switches to what loos like it should be the video... then just sits there
[08:27] <^V^> maybe slow connection?
[08:27] <^V^> the lego starwars played pretty smooth for me
[08:27] <CrunchyFerrett> no, they play beautifully on my vista box
[08:28] <hasan> who uses kmldonkey?
[08:28] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: make sure you uninstall mplayer before installing the one from SVN
[08:28] <CrunchyFerrett> roger roger
[08:28] <hasan> is there a way to export server list form a met file?
[08:28] <hasan> as its the case with emule?
[08:28] <hasan> kmldonkey user is on demand
[08:29] <hasan> :)
[08:29] <hasan> who who
[08:29] <jim__> anyone know anything about Thunderbird2 in Kubuntu?
[08:30] <CrunchyFerrett> mplayer downloaded and updated
[08:33] <^V^> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README
[08:33] <^V^> enable GUI
[08:33] <^V^> also, you should probably at a "--prefix=/usr"
[08:34] <CrunchyFerrett> so.. ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-gui
[08:34] <^V^> yes
[08:35] <^V^> probably missing some dependencies...
[08:36] <CrunchyFerrett> configure seemed to go ok
[08:36] <CrunchyFerrett> make is going nuts
[08:37] <^V^> might take a little time, its a lot bigger than the plugin :)
[08:39] <CrunchyFerrett> Its still chugging. I have no idea what its doing, but its still chugging
[08:41] <pwilson> ati install
[08:41] <CrunchyFerrett> !ati | pwilson
[08:41] <ubotu> pwilson: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:44] <CrunchyFerrett> ^V^: It works!
[08:44] <CrunchyFerrett> Well
[08:44] <CrunchyFerrett> It mostly works!
[08:46] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: what mostly works?
[08:46] <CrunchyFerrett> I lack audio
[08:46] <CrunchyFerrett> But for some reason, my entire system lacks audio
[08:46] <^V^> okay, you are missing the audio codec
[08:46] <^V^> okay, maybe not
[08:47] <^V^> I'll be back in a few minutes, maybe someone here can sort your audio issues
[08:47] <CrunchyFerrett> its a hibernate thing
[08:47] <CrunchyFerrett> Need to reboot I think
[08:48] <CrunchyFerrett> back in a ferw
[08:48] <CrunchyFerrett> ok, maybe not
[08:49] <CrunchyFerrett> Turns out that Teamspeak holds my audio system hostage
[08:50] <CrunchyFerrett> Or I was wrong and I do need the aforementioned audio codec
[08:52] <^V^> CrunchyFerrett: OSS or ALSA?
[08:53] <Karti> Hi, in my System Settings, my KDE Theme Manager does not have an Administrator button so I can't change it -  any ideas please?
[09:00] <SRN9> hey quick question... if I had kubuntu on a laptop would it be auto configured for wifi? if it regognised upon boot a wifi card?
[10:13] (MilhousePunkRock/#kubuntu) jtmoney: You can probably modprobe what driver is used, but I don't really know how...
[10:14] <hasan> hi
[10:14] <hasan> any kmldonkey user ?
[10:14] <hasan> i need edonkey ip number
[10:15] <hasan> why i cant add more servers?
[10:15] <hasan> with kmldonkey
[10:15] <hasan> how can i add more servers especially edonkey server 1 2 3 4?
[10:17] <paknefia_> hi..
[10:18] <waylandbill> people still use edonkey?
[10:18] <T-Connect> I have no idea how to add /msg nickserv identify xxxx on Konversation.
[10:18] <T-Connect> On auto send,
[10:18] <paknefia_> can any body explain to me about this? "useradd -d /cache/ -r -s /dev/null squid >/dev/null 2>&1"
[10:19] <T-Connect> Do I need to add it into Service?
[10:19] <waylandbill> T-Connect: server list, edit server, edit default identity.
[10:20] <hasan> waylandbill what should i use?
[10:20] <waylandbill> hasan: what are you trying to fetch?
[10:20] <hasan> whatever pdf chm iso images whatever
[10:21] <T-Connect> Then what?
[10:22] <whippy> hello
[10:22] <whippy> ;)
[10:22] <waylandbill> T-Connect: Auto Identify... Service is nickserv, password is well... you know. :-)
[10:23] <whippy> when i install an application via apt-get install
[10:23] <whippy> the application is installed
[10:23] <waylandbill> hasan: you can't find that stuff on the web?
[10:23] <whippy> with some libraries,
[10:23] <whippy> when i enter:
[10:23] <whippy> apt-get remove applicationname
[10:23] <hasan> waylandbill:nope icant find those books on net
[10:23] <whippy> the application is removed, but also the installed libraries/dependencies?
[10:24] <pag> whippy, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:24] <pag> whippy, it'll uninstall unneeded libraries/dependencies
[10:24] <whippy> so you mean not apt-get remove applicationname <->
[10:24] <waylandbill> hasan: copyrighted stuff?
[10:24] <whippy> apt-get autoremove applicationname
[10:24] <pag> whippy, no.. sudo apt-get remove application && sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:25] <hasan> yep
[10:25] <hasan> copyrigted
[10:25] <whippy> i see,
[10:25] <whippy> so i also can do first:
[10:25] <whippy> apt-get remove appname
[10:25] <whippy> apt-get autoremove
[10:25] <whippy> or with &&
[10:25] <whippy> ;)
[10:25] <whippy> is this right?
[10:26] <pag> whippy, well... with && you dont have to enter two commands, but it can done seperatly too :)
[10:26] <T-Connect> This right? /msg nickserv identify xxxx; /msg nickserv set hide email on
[10:26] <waylandbill> hasan: first, that's illegal... but.. you could try frostwire.
[10:26] <whippy> i see...
[10:26] <whippy> and what does autoremove do?
[10:26] <whippy> it removes libraries with aren't used?
[10:26] <pag> whippy, yeah.
[10:26] <whippy> or only the libraries from the last remove
[10:27] <whippy> ?
[10:27] <whippy> or all?
[10:27] <pag> whippy, those that aren't used
[10:27] <T-Connect> Brb goingt to test this auto.
[10:27] <whippy> oke ;) thanks ;)
[10:27] <waylandbill> whippy: it removes auto installed packages that aren't needed by any explicitly installed package.
[10:27] <whippy> and how can i get a list of applications with are installed?
[10:27] <whippy> but perhaps not showed in the kde-menulist
[10:28] <waylandbill> whippy: dpkg -l
[10:28] <pag> whippy, dpkg --get-selections
[10:28] <whippy> thanks
[10:28] <hasan> waylandbill: what's frostwire?
[10:28] <hasan> a begware?
[10:29] <hasan> are there any users?
[10:29] <T-Connect> Hmmm... This doesn't work. /msg nickserv identify xxxx; /msg nickserv set hide email on
[10:29] <pag> whippy, that dpkg -l seems to be better.
[10:29] <pag> T-Connect, you only have to hide your email once, nickserv remembers that
[10:29] <waylandbill> hasan: yes there are users on it.
[10:29] <T-Connect> I guest I have to type this in everytime that I log on.
[10:30] <Ryaren> pls help me! Somebody see something wrong in this xorg.conf file?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28950/plain/
[10:30] <Ryaren> Because the log file says no screen found!
[10:30] <waylandbill> T-Connect: just put nickserv and your password in the Auto Identify section as I told you.
[10:30] <whippy> dpkg -l seems really better,
[10:30] <whippy> cause i can grep information
[10:30] <whippy> like
[10:30] <whippy> dpkg -l | grep "keyword"
[10:31] <T-Connect> Like this? #kubuntu; /msg nickserv identify xxxx; /msg nickserv set hide email on
[10:31] <pag> T-Connect, press F8
[10:32] <waylandbill> no. in the server list, edit a server, edit the default identity, and you'll see the auto identify section.
[10:32] <T-Connect> Ok I done that.
[10:32] <waylandbill> then you're all set.
[10:32] <T-Connect> It doesn't work.
[10:32] <T-Connect> Notice]  -NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[10:33] <whippy> another question ;)
[10:33] <whippy> if i install software with apt-get install
[10:33] <whippy> the packages are put into
[10:33] <T-Connect> This seem buggy
[10:33] <whippy> archives or so ;)
[10:33] <waylandbill> T-Connect: it works like a charm. double check you have the correct info. and next time you connect, it will send it to nickserv
[10:33] <whippy> is it possible to copy the folder,
[10:33] <pag> whippy, /var/cache/apt/archives/  :)
[10:34] <whippy> and install all these archives automatically
[10:34] <T-Connect> It won't work. I try it.
[10:34] <whippy> on an offline machine?
[10:34] <waylandbill> whippy: yup.
[10:34] <whippy> does it take all dependencies,,...
[10:34] <whippy> ?
[10:34] <pag> whippy, well.. I'm not so sure about automation :-/
[10:34] <waylandbill> if you copy them
[10:34] <whippy> so i only write dpkg --install packagename
[10:34] <T-Connect> How did you do it?
[10:35] <whippy> ? does someone know that
[10:35] <whippy> @waylandbill ? does it take all dependencies?
[10:35] <T-Connect> Send me snapshots on how to set it up right. Thanks.
[10:35] <whippy> cause pag is not sure about automation
[10:36] <T-Connect> Is it broken on 3.5.6?
[10:37] <pag> T-Connect, http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2228/nickservgk3.png
[10:37] <pag> T-Connect, and it did work on 3.5.6 too
[10:38] <T-Connect> Oh I done it wrong. Ok.
[10:38] <whippy> where can i check logins and logouts?
[10:38] <whippy> with time?
[10:38] <whippy> and password trials?
[10:38] <whippy> cat messages | grep ?
[10:39] <whippy> or is there a debian package for fine observing....
[10:39] <whippy> my machine
[10:39] <pag> whippy, cat /var/log/auth.log
[10:39] <T-Connect> Thanks it should work now.
[10:40] <whippy> what does
[10:40] <whippy> pam_unix mean?
[10:40] <whippy> in the auth.lgo
[10:40] <whippy> auth.log
[10:42] <whippy> "session opened for" means someone logged in,?
[10:43] <whippy> @pag,
[10:43] <whippy> i think i hava a problem with it
[10:44] <whippy> it only shows logs before a special date,
[10:44] <pag> whippy, sorry, I don't know the structure of that file at all.
[10:44] <whippy> i think i once installed "metalog"
[10:44] <whippy> could it be, that metalog stops the log in auth.log?
[10:49] <whippy> does someone know, why my auth.log does not work?
[10:53] <whippy> okay,
[10:53] <whippy> if someone interested, i know why auth.log does not work
[10:53] <whippy> as i thought,
[10:53] <whippy> i once installed metalog
[10:54] <whippy> and now the logfiles changed ;) thats it ;)
[10:54] <whippy> found the auth notifications in another file ;)
[11:02] <aznpridechinese> when i update my sources.list how do i get a authentication key to work?
[11:02] <whippy> @aznpridechinese ? how do you updatet your sources.list?
[11:02] <dialloma> hello
[11:03] <whippy> you modify it through an editor?
[11:03] <aznpridechinese> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:03] <aznpridechinese> yes
[11:03] <dialloma> I have a problem with tomcat in eclipse
[11:03] <dialloma> can I post the errors that I have ?
[11:04] <whippy> if the server is oke,
[11:04] <whippy> it should work automatically, i think...
[11:04] <whippy> apt-get update
[11:04] <whippy> you have to update your list with
[11:04] <whippy> apt-get update
[11:04] <whippy> and with
[11:04] <aznpridechinese> i did apt-get update
[11:04] <whippy> apt-cache search keyword
[11:04] <whippy> you can search the lists
[11:04] <whippy> thats it
[11:05] <pag> aznpridechinese, keys are repo-specific, so which repo doesn't work?
[11:05] <smylanakis> hello there
[11:05] <smylanakis> i have just installed
[11:05] <smylanakis> rotorrent
[11:05] <smylanakis> guided from here
[11:05] <smylanakis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-the-latest-rtorrent-and-libtorrent.html#more-122
[11:05] <dialloma> Bootstrap: Class loader creation threw exception
[11:05] <dialloma> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/logging/LogFactory
[11:05] <dialloma> at org.apache.tomcat.util.compat.JdkCompat.<clinit>(JdkCompat.java:55)
[11:05] <aznpridechinese> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main
[11:05] <smylanakis> the thing is that i dont know how to run this software since i am a newby
[11:05] <smylanakis> can anybody help me out please?
[11:06] <pag> aznpridechinese, wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -    <- command that (notice the last - )
[11:06] <smylanakis> please?
[11:06] <aznpridechinese> what i am trying to do is downgrade beryl 0.2.1 to 0.2.0 and i need the repository to downgrade it but when i try to apply the downgrade synaptics gives me something about the repository 404 error couldn't connect or something
[11:06] <pag> smylanakis, you can open rtorrent by opening a konsole and typing: rtorrent
[11:07] <dialloma> anybody know how can I correct my problem
[11:08] <dialloma> it's a log problem
[11:08] <aznpridechinese> cool i think i got it
[11:08] <smylanakis> open a console you mean ? alt+ f2 and then type that ?
[11:08] <smylanakis> type rtorrent ?
[11:08] <dialloma> so I can't  start tomcat in eclipse
[11:08] <smylanakis> pag is that what you mean ?
[11:09] <pag> smylanakis, konsole can be found in menu under System
[11:09] <hasan> how can i see which program is blocking which ports?
[11:09] <aznpridechinese> thanks for the help pag
[11:09] <smylanakis> i am runnung kubuntu ... right ? (sorry just a newby)
[11:10] <dialloma> tomcat problem, help me please !
[11:10] <smylanakis> running kubuntu ? where exactly do you mena ?
[11:10] <smylanakis> mean ?
[11:10] <pag> smylanakis, press alt+f2 and type konsole
[11:11] <dialloma> kubuntu 7.04
[11:11] <smylanakis> pag this comes up
[11:11] <smylanakis> (12:10:47) Using 'epoll' based polling.
[11:11] <smylanakis> (12:10:47) Could not read resource file: ~/.rtorrent.rc
[11:11] <smylanakis> [Throttle off/off KB]  [Rate   0.0/  0.0 KB]  [Port: 6961]  [U 0/0]  [S 0/1/768]  [F
[11:11] <smylanakis> what's that supposed to mean  now ?
[11:12] <smylanakis> is it running only from the konsole this rtorrent ?
[11:12] <smylanakis> ????????
[11:13] <pag> smylanakis, rtorrent is a console application, it has no GUI at all.
[11:14] <smylanakis> oh no man.. is it dificult to configure ?
[11:15] <pag> smylanakis, depends on what you think is difficult :) I've never used rtorrent, so I can't help.
[11:16] <pag> smylanakis, there might be #rtorrent -channel; there are probably people that can help
[11:17] <smylanakis> thank you
[11:19] <aznpridechinese> why does my kde crash everytime i reboot?
[11:22] <aznpridechinese> didn't happen before i install beryl
[11:27] <Karti> Anyone recommend a backup application other than Keep? Cheers
[11:29] <RivaeAerya>  how can i make it so that other programs can effect the desktop (root window)?
[11:30] <madeofcandy> wow this is busy
[11:30] <AcE> I am running beagle to index in priority... [ export BEAGLE_EXERCISE_THE_DOG=1 ]  how to I remove it from env and set it back?
[11:40] <icecruncher> anybody recommend any good rss readers?
[11:42] <pag> icecruncher, akregator rocks :)
[11:42] <^futuro> I to all
[11:43] <^futuro> I want propose one affair
[11:43] <icecruncher> pag: I know, but I'm looking for a different one
[11:43] <icecruncher> ^futuro: like what?
[11:44] <^futuro> icecruncher: I want create system tools
[11:44] <pag> icecruncher, "kitty - a Qt/KDE based RSS podcast and video aggregator"
[11:44] <^futuro> for someone operation
[11:44] <^futuro> for example ...
[11:44] <icecruncher> pag: how about same as kitty but on gnome side :)
[11:45] <^futuro> to modify /etc/fstab
[11:45] <^futuro> or /boot/grub/menu.lst -----
[11:45] <pag> icecruncher, blam or liferea?
[11:45] <icecruncher> ^futuro: so you want to make ui for tha kind of stuff
[11:45] <icecruncher> pag: thnks I'll check em out
[11:46] <^futuro> icecruncher: I mean grafical tools
[11:46] <icecruncher> ^futuro: I know user interface > ui.... how about using qt-developer
[11:47] <icecruncher> ^futuro: very nice easy to use program
[11:47] <^futuro> what's do you mean?
[11:47] <^futuro> this program is alredy present?
[11:48] <^futuro> icecruncher: exuseme for my bad english
[11:48] <icecruncher> ^futuro: use that program to make the applications.
[11:49] <^futuro> icecruncher: I need c manual for linux
[11:49] <^futuro> I know only c++
[11:49] <yeniklasor> Do you know kubuntu's update and package manager names?
[11:50] <icecruncher> adept_updateer
[11:50] <icecruncher> adept_manager
[11:50] <yeniklasor> thanks
[11:50] <icecruncher> np
[11:52] <kharloss> hi there. i have a problem access one of my LAN computer .
[11:52] <kharloss> i have 2 comps .  one is the one i`m chatting right now
[11:53] <kharloss> the other is a web server , both are in the same switch
[11:53] <icecruncher> !ubotu
[11:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:53] <kharloss> ping between my local comp  and the other  have 90  93 %  loss
[11:53] <kharloss> any solution ?
[11:58] <pvandewyngaerde> kharloss: is your cable damaged ?
[12:18] <simon__> hi there
[12:19] <simon__> i got a problem. everytime i install the nvidia glx driver with adept the computer won't boot correctly. it freezes on the second kubuntu launch window
[12:19] <simon__> i got a geforce go 6600
[12:19] <simon__> any1 got a clue?
[12:24] <simon__> :(
[12:33] <danya_> Hello :) .. I've been trying to install compiz-fusion .. when I run apt-get update I get the following error :Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:35] <danya_> so can anyone help plz ?
[12:35] <csmNapster> hello danya
[12:36] <danya_> hi csmNapster :)
[12:36] <csmNapster> you speak spanish?
[12:36] <danya_> No
[12:36] <csmNapster> my english is not perfectly
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> not really, compiz-fusion is as of yet unsupported
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and...
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> !es
[12:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:36] <emonkey-m> !es
[12:37] <csmNapster> but i'm can try
[12:37] <danya_> I want to install it because beryl stopped working
[12:37] <danya_> csm thak u :)
[12:38] <aznpridechinese> pag
[12:38] <aznpridechinese> that command you gave me doesn't work anymore
[12:38] <malik__> hello ppl
[12:39] <aznpridechinese> my kde still won't boot up after i install my nvidia driver, the first time it worked but after installing beryl my kde kept crashing at reboot and it doesn't automatically start when i boot up
[12:39] <pag> aznpridechinese, it's supposed to work only once, after that the key is added, and you don't need to fetch it again (did I remember the problem right?)
[12:39] <aznpridechinese> so what do i do now to make nvidia driver install again? i'm on a fresh copy of kubuntu, but i've already installed the nvidia driver twice but no luck
[12:40] <malik__> i have heard that from next version of kubuntu compiz will be installed by default and all the 3d mambo jambo with that...... it it true?
[12:40] <pag> !nvidia | aznpridechinese
[12:40] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> you gave me sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:40] <pag> aznpridechinese, wasn't me, sorry.
[12:40] <malik__> aznpridechinese: goto the monitor prefernces and enable the nvidia driver there after u have installed it
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> i already know how to install my driver, i've done it before, but the same procedure is no longer working
[12:40] <aznpridechinese> i can't malik, because kde won't boot up after i install it
[12:41] <danya_> Guys my Beryl stopped working can anyone help !?
[12:41] <malik__> beryl is dead
[12:41] <malik__> use compiz fusion
[12:42] <danya_> ok then I'm trying to install compiz-fusion
[12:42] <jussi01> #ubuntu-effects danya_
[12:42] <csmNapster> danya, your problem seems to be of the servers of the repositories
[12:42] <malik__> danya_: | !compiz
[12:42] <danya_> but when I run apt-get update I get the following error Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:42] <csmNapster> I believe
[12:42] <danya_> with beryl ? csm ?
[12:42] <malik__> danya_ | !compiz
[12:43] <malik__> sorry guys
[12:43] <jussi01> !compiz | danya_
[12:43] <ubotu> danya_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:43] <tinee> how do i made programs load up automatically at bootup
[12:43] <tinee> like firestarter and gaim
[12:43] <waylandbill> !Autostart
[12:43] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:44] <tinee> is that the same for ubuntu?
[12:44] <waylandbill> gaim is easy though. Just leave it open when you end your session
[12:44] <tinee> o
[12:44] <waylandbill> tinee: no. that's for kde.
[12:44] <malik__> !firestarter
[12:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:44] <boxer2> HI :D
[12:44] <boxer2> I'm from Italy hello at all
[12:45] <tinee> cuz im using ubuntu
[12:45] <andreas_> Hello
[12:45] <boxer2> excuse me for bad english
[12:45] <tinee> konversation just autojoined this channel hehe
[12:45] <jussi01> tinee: #ubuntu
[12:45] <andreas_> German ??
[12:45] <csmNapster> This mistake seems that it is given when one cannot lower the list of packages to update
[12:45] <andreas_> please
[12:45] <pag> !de | andreas_
[12:45] <jussi01> !de
[12:45] <ubotu> andreas_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:45] <tinee> ty
[12:45] <andreas_> Ha okay ich geh in den channel danke
[12:54] <leandro> hi everyone
[12:55] <leandro> can anyone help me? I have some problem with session management :)
[12:56] <ninHer> leandro just explain it up
[12:57] <leandro> when I log out I have superkaramba and another program (mail-notify) started, but when I log in again I can't find mail-notify and have to start it everyime
[12:57] <leandro> additionally
[12:57] <leandro> the reminder daemon keeps starting, even if I always check out the "start at login" box...
[12:58] <leandro> I tried saving the session, but it seems it is frozen in a state I can't modify
[12:59] <leandro> I would just like to find the file where these informaton are kept... it should be something in my home folder i suppose, but can't find it
[01:01] <leandro> ???
[01:01] <cath> just wondering, has anyone managed to see video of the al gore/microsoft live earth show on a non-IE browser?
[01:02] <leandro> ninHer: any idea?
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> hm, a microsoft production locked into a microsoft platform and browser...  likelihood of that occurring...  roughly duh percent.
[01:04] <cath> makes it easy to be cynical about these concerts, doesn't it
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> unfortunately, yes :\
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> To watch all concerts in a single player and at the highest quality, close this window, start Internet Explorer and browse to http://liveearth.msn.com.
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> cute.
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> you CAN supposedly watch
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> but without any convenience
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> hah
[01:08] <cath> I got nothing with firefox/mplayer plugin or konqueror
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> quicktime
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> that's cute
[01:08] <tmske> Hi, I have the error cannot connect to backend server with mythtv, could this be because I changed the mythtv user password?
[01:08] <danya_> Ubotu: do I have to set up the things in the link u gave me to complete compiz installation ??
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> tmske: possibly.  is there a mythtv specific channel?
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ubotu is a bot.
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> see?
[01:09] <tmske> Daisuke_Ido, yeah thanks, found it
[01:09] <aznpridechinese> yay i fixed the problem, turns out kubuntu installs an older nvidia kernel somewhere and nvidia driver installation installs the newer kernel in a different directory and kubuntu will always use the older version unless removed, now i have a working driver again =)
[01:11] <aznpridechinese> sometimes microsoft does do things right, at least you never have so much trouble just trying to install a program.
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> aznpridechinese: you mean how until very recently you have to have a separate program to completely uninstall and remove the nvidia drivers in windows before you could install new ones because it would still look for the old ones?
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, completely different situation there
[01:13] <cath> aznpridechinese: I don't know, I like installing from repos, I think that's much easier
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> (had to have
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> video drivers have traditionally been a PITA on any platform.  they got better in windows, they're getting better in linux
[01:14] <cath> and updates are just too easy in k/ubuntu
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> not quite there yet.
[01:15] <aznpridechinese> are the nvidia drivers in adept manager the latest ones? because i use nvidia 8800gtx
[01:15] <aznpridechinese> PCIe 16x
[01:16] <aznpridechinese> and the list of nvidia drivers in adept makes it confusing, it doesn't really list which card it supports
[01:22] <roupel> test
[01:23] <michael> Hallo
[01:24] <michael> Ich brauche Hilfe bei Kubuntu
[01:24] <pag> !de | michael
[01:24] <ubotu> michael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:26] <aznpridechinese> how do i make beryl start everytime i boot up?
[01:29] <toby> When I connect an ipod nano, kubuntu tells me "mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist". That's because the ipod is on /dev/sde2. Why is kubuntu looking in the wrong place?
[01:30] <toby> Where can I begin troubleshooting this?
[01:37] <_toby> test
[01:37] <_toby> I think my last message didn't appear so I will repeat it:
[01:37] <_toby> When I connect an ipod nano, kubuntu tells me "mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist". That's because the ipod is on /dev/sde2. Why is kubuntu looking in the wrong place?
[01:37] <_toby> Where can I begin troubleshooting this?
[01:38] <amigrave> i'm trying amarok. I would like to play an mp3 but the "No mp3 support" dialog which is supposed to allow easy installation of mp3 support actually does crash amarok. How can I do this manually ? Is there a single meta-package to install ?
[01:39] <_toby> amigrave: It's a matter of enabling a new repository in your package manager and installing a simple package.
[01:39] <_toby> Very easy to do and there are many guides.
[01:41] <amigrave> _toby: has this crash already been reported ?
[01:42] <_toby> amigrave: which crash?
[01:44] <amigrave> _toby: the "No mp3 support" dialog opens but the frame of the dialog is empty and the mouse cursor turn to sandglass. Amarok becomes unresponsive. Forced to kill process.
[01:45] <_toby> Yeah, I'm suggesting you just install the packages manually to avoid the issue
[01:49] <halped> hola
[01:50] <halped> algun espaol?
[01:50] <Hirvinen> !es | halped
[01:50] <ubotu> halped: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:51] <robdeman> can anybody here help me out please?
[01:52] <amigrave> _toby: running /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3 in a console worked as suggested on this page : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58617    where it's stated that the install mp3 support dialog crashes
[01:52] <pag> !mp3 | amigrave
[01:52] <ubotu> amigrave: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <robdeman> I am apparently being banned from #ubuntu -- but I have hinstely no idea why?
[01:52] <robdeman> I never got any warnings, nor did I do anything weird or stupid
[01:52] <robdeman> who should I contact for this?
[01:53] <pag> robdeman, somebody from #ubuntu-ops maybe?
[01:53] <robdeman> ah ok
[02:11] <diablo> ki di voi parla italiano?
[02:12] <aznpridechinese> need help, why does my adept manager keeps saying some other process is using it and i can't make any installation or changes except i don't have anything else running?
[02:12] <tsdgeos> |it
[02:12] <tsdgeos> !it
[02:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:12] <tsdgeos> oh, he left already
[02:16] <aznpridechinese> hello?
[02:27] <RivaeAerya> Why won't transparency work in Konsole?
[02:29] <aroo> Let me consult my crystal ball
[02:29] <aznpridechinese> please help! adept manager keeps saying some other application is using it so i can't install or uninstall anything
[02:30] <RivaeAerya> Why won't transparency work in Konsole? I'm trying to set it but the background remains black
[02:33] <HayaBusa> Good morning everyone.
[02:34] <HayaBusa> I have nvidia GeForce 7300GS graphic card. how do i install driver for this so i can also take advantage on OpenGL ??
[02:34] <HayaBusa> i checked the nvidia site. but process way to confusing for someone new to linux like me .
[02:35] <llutz> HayaBusa: install nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-kernel-common
[02:35] <HayaBusa> is that a command i have to enter in consol ?
[02:36] <llutz> HayaBusa: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-kernel-common
[02:36] <HayaBusa> thanks i will give it a go .
[02:37] <HayaBusa> ok, installation complete , do i have to do something else ?
[02:37] <llutz> HayaBusa: restart X and pray
[02:37] <michael> wie komme ich in den deutschen channel
[02:38] <llutz> !de| michael
[02:38] <HayaBusa> ok..
[02:38] <ubotu> michael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:42] <HayaBusa> OK, i restarted the X , now how can i know if driver is NVIDIA and if is working properly ?
[02:42] <llutz> HayaBusa: glxinfo |grep direct
[02:43] <azzco> I've got a problem with kiba-dock, anyone got it working on Kubuntu?
[02:43] <HayaBusa> shows extension and it says missing on display 0.0
[02:44] <HayaBusa> GLX missiong on display 0.0
[02:44] <HayaBusa> stuff like that
[02:44] <llutz> HayaBusa: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:44] <HayaBusa> xlib
[02:44] <vzduch> HayaBusa: first you know if you see the Nvidia splash screen when X starts up
[02:45] <stdin> HayaBusa: you need to disable composit
[02:45] <kal|gone> I believe if you install video drivers you actually have to reboot
[02:45] <HayaBusa> ok, give me a second. i reboot system first that might help ..
[02:45] <vzduch> stdin: disabling Composite caused my X server not to start any more
[02:45] <kal|gone> it's a kernel module after all
[02:45] <vzduch> kal|gone: no, you don't... only if you compile the module yourself
[02:45] <kal|gone> also you'll likely need to consider xorg.conf?
[02:46] <kal|gone> well I only know about using the manufacturer's drivers
[02:46] <stdin> vzduch: it shouldn't, it's only an extention
[02:46] <jrick> How can I enable mp3 support for listening to online radio (shoucast) in Amarok?  I already have mp3 working for my music library, but it won't work for streaming.
[02:46] <kal|gone> I've read too much about speed dropping off iwth the open drivers
[02:46] <kal|gone> but then I'm using an x700 ATI card too
[02:47] <vzduch> stdin: instead I added Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" to the relevant Device section in xorg.conf, since then 3D acceleration is working properly
[02:47] <HayaBusa> i rebooted, and there is NO nvidia splash screen
[02:48] <vzduch> then it's not working
[02:48] <HayaBusa> thank.
[02:48] <vzduch> what card/which driver pkg?
[02:48] <HayaBusa> i have nvidia geforce 7300GS
[02:49] <vzduch> should work w/ nvidia-glx proper (I guess)
[02:49] <llutz> vzduch: it does :)
[02:49] <vzduch> which driver did you install? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[02:50] <jrick> nvm, it seems to work now even though I didn't do anything :S
[02:50] <HayaBusa> where can i find more more info on installing nvidia ?
[02:50] <vzduch> llutz: you were looking for that option?
[02:50] <HayaBusa> glx-new
[02:50] <simon__> hi all
[02:50] <llutz> vzduch: glx-new works fine here with 7300gs
[02:50] <vzduch> HayaBusa: sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-new && sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[02:50] <vzduch> llutz: ah
[02:50] <simon__> i just installed beryl and now my windows aint got a frame. so im not able to close move max/minimize them
[02:51] <vzduch> then you're more competent than me, I only have a GF2 w/ nvidia-glx-legacy :)
[02:51] <llutz> HayaBusa: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:51] <HayaBusa> i tried grep . but nothing is showing ..
[02:52] <HayaBusa> i am removing and reinstalling the other version
[02:52] <llutz> HayaBusa: so you have to edit xorg.conf and change "river" from nv to nvidia
[02:52] <llutz> HayaBusa: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:52] <vzduch> you mean "driver"
[02:52] <llutz> "Driver" sry
[02:52] <vzduch> there is no water in the config ;)
[02:52] <llutz> watercooling maybe :)
[02:52] <vzduch> hrhr
[02:54] <simon__> noone able to help me with the frames?
[02:55] <simon__> :/
[02:55] <stdin> simon__: see a beryl icon in the system tray?
[02:56] <simon__> ya
[02:56] <stdin> simon__: right click it, go to window manager, and choose kwin
[02:57] <simon__> theres no kwin
[02:57] <stdin> there should be, if you're in kde
[02:58] <simon__> ah
[02:58] <simon__> found it
[02:58] <simon__> how can i fix the problem? the frames are back
[02:59] <stdin> when you got no frames, it means that beryl failed
[02:59] <simon__> but the other effects worked
[03:00] <stdin> I'd try asking in #beryl they know more than me
[03:00] <simon__> i also got the problem that the normal nvidia glx driver doesnt work so i have to use glx new
[03:00] <simon__> ty
[03:00] <stdin> and I know nothing about the nvidia driver :P
[03:16] <ksivaji> stdin :
[03:17] <stdin> you called?
[03:17] <ksivaji> yes i need your hepl
[03:17] <ksivaji> help
[03:17] <stdin> with?
[03:17] <ksivaji> my system cant detect dvd disk but it works fine in windows
[03:18] <stdin> what do you mean by "can't detect"?
[03:18] <ksivaji> nothing happens when i insert dvd disk into driver
[03:19] <stdin> can you mount it tho?
[03:19] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom
[03:19] <ksivaji> mount: No medium found
[03:20] <stdin> hmm
[03:20] <stdin> anything in dmesg?
[03:20] <waylandbill> what sort of dvd is it? one you burnt?
[03:21] <ksivaji> yes it contain movies burnt in windows
[03:21] <ksivaji> what is that dmesg?
[03:22] <frojnd> how can U unrar file if I have to put password in it ??
[03:22] <stdin> ksivaji: dmesg | tail
[03:23] <stdin> frojnd: use ark?
[03:23] <ksivaji> waylandbill stdin any idea
[03:23] <waylandbill> what program did you burn it with? did you close the session or leave the disk appendable?
[03:23] <stdin> frojnd: or (from the manpage) "-p<password> Set password."
[03:24] <ksivaji> waylandbill i am not sure it is my friends dvd
[03:24] <waylandbill> when you say it works in windows, is that on your machine or your friends?
[03:24] <ksivaji> my machine i have dual boot
[03:25] <ksivaji> stdin you what me to paste the output of dmesg | tail
[03:25] <stdin> to pastebin
[03:25] <frojnd> stdin: file allready needs to be unrared with password, ...
[03:26] <zorglu_> q. i want to test if my microphone is working, so i need a tool to view the volume of the microphone input, any suggestion ?
[03:26] <ksivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28979/
[03:26] <stdin> frojnd: yeah, unrar e -pMyPass file.rar
[03:26] <waylandbill> frojnd: ark should prompt for the password.
[03:28] <stdin> ksivaji: do you have libdvdread3 installed?
[03:28] <ubuntu_> hello. I asked for nvidia driver installtion help few minutes ago , after installing , i have no access to kdm , i am using live cd to talk to you guys, how can i fix this problme
[03:28] <ksivaji> stdin yes
[03:29] <Ayabara> does anyone know if I can work safely with hfs drives from kubuntu?
[03:30] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: use older version of xorg.conf if you backed it up before installing.
[03:30] <ksivaji> !hfs
[03:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:30] <ubuntu_> no back up sorry :(
[03:30] <waylandbill> it might even have been backed up during the process.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> i guess i have to reinstall linux again
[03:30] <waylandbill> you may want to take a look in /etc/X11/ to see what's there.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> is there anyway to acces my files , using the live CD ?
[03:30] <waylandbill> yes. mount the drive to /mnt
[03:31] <ubuntu_> IM new , how can i do that
[03:31] <ksivaji> ubuntu_ sudo mout /dev/hdx /mnt
[03:31] <waylandbill> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt  (if that's the drive and partition you used)
[03:32] <Ayabara> ksivaji, thanks. I already read that one, but it doesn't say anything about how reliable read/write to hfs is
[03:32] <waylandbill> supposedly fuse is pretty reliable. don't know from personal experience though as I don't have hfs or ntfs.
[03:33] <ksivaji> Ayabara sorry i am not sure actually i never hear ed about hfs before
[03:33] <stdin> Ayabara: it'll probably be more reliable than ntfs, as hfs(+) doesn't change much
[03:33] <waylandbill> ksivaji: that pastebin doesn't mention anything relating to the dvd or drive. tail didn't give you far enough back.
[03:34] <Ayabara> stdin, ok. I've bought a Mac, and I need my external drives to be readable and writable from both Ubuntu and OS X
[03:34] <ubuntu_> using sudo mount/dev/hda2/mnt displays , commnand not found
[03:34] <waylandbill> Ayabara: of course you'll want to back up your data before trying anything new that could be potentially hazardous.
[03:35] <Ayabara> waylandbill, it has crossed my mind :-)
[03:35] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: space between mount and /dev
[03:35] <ksivaji> waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28981/
[03:36] <waylandbill> ksivaji: try ejecting and then reloading the disk and then tail the dmesg
[03:36] <ksivaji> waylandbill ok
[03:37] <ubuntu_> i tried all varation of HDAx.. but can't find /dev/hdax/mnt in fstab .. thats what i get
[03:37] <cs5> anyone know what wireless assistant would be called from konsole so i can sudo run it?
[03:38] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: space between /dev/hdax and /mnt too. :-)
[03:38] <ubuntu_> thanks for the help, i guess is faster for me to reinstall the kubuntu.. .. see you in few minute with fresh kubuntu ..
[03:39] <ViciouZ^Laptop> Hello, can anybody help with with the no sound problem?
[03:39] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: that's your call, but learning to mount drives from a command line is a useful skill.
[03:39] <ksivaji> waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28982/
[03:39] <stdin> and, no, it won't be faster
[03:39] <ubuntu_> yes. i know , thanks. but for now i really need to work with linux installed on my system rather then live cd, due to fact that is very slow
[03:40] <ksivaji> ViciouZ^Laptop kmenu->multimedia->kmix
[03:40] <Ayabara> is there a linux tool that can create hfs+? gparted can only create hfs. don't even know if I need the +...
[03:41] <waylandbill> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt && ls /mnt/etc/X11   ... that's all you need to really do to see what's there. and then use cp to copy an xorg.conf that probably was made during installation. You're talking a matter of a minute or two.
[03:41] <ViciouZ^Laptop> ksivaji: How does that help? it can't find any mixers. Anyway, i have no sound at ball
[03:42] <ViciouZ^Laptop> *at all
[03:42] <waylandbill> ViciouZ^Laptop: you want to make sure a kernel module even loaded for the sound card first.
[03:42] <cs5> Can anyone help me, i want to run wireless assistant using sudo but it tells mesudo: wireless: command not found
[03:42] <zorglu_> q. i want to test if my microphone is working, so i need a tool to view the volume of the microphone input, any suggestion ?
[03:43] <ubuntu_> Thanks. i can not follow the commands that are being given to me .. is a bit confusing.
[03:43] <ViciouZ^Laptop> waylandbill: I have been trying to install the alsa intel8x0 module, but make comes up with error, error type 2 i think
[03:43] <ViciouZ^Laptop> If it will help i'll send you the makelog
[03:44] <ksivaji> waylandbill what happen any idea........
[03:44] <ViciouZ^Laptop> I have been following this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:44] <stdin> Ayabara: not in the repos, you have to compile the apple tools
[03:44] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: you may want to learn what the commands actually are and do at some point then.
[03:45] <ksivaji> stdin waylandbill help me
[03:45] <waylandbill> ksivaji: doesn't look like there is anything useful in the dmesg.
[03:45] <ubuntu_> first question, how can i figure , which partion live CD is using so i can mount the device
[03:45] <stdin> Ayabara: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hfsplus
[03:47] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: I mentioned that you need to put a space between /dev/hdax and /mnt. Did you do that? When you installed, did you manually partition the drive? Is it your only drive? Did you use the entire drive for the install?
[03:47] <Ayabara> stdin, looks good. and writing to hfs+ from ubuntu should work well, right?
[03:48] <Ayabara> ahh. it's open source!
[03:48] <stdin> Ayabara: should do
[03:48] <ubuntu_> ihave XP and linux on two partition . before HDA1 used to show as xp partion
[03:48] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: in any case. if you run kcontrol and go into system administration and select disk & filesystems, you should see the partition layout.
[03:49] <ubuntu_> where is Kcontrol
[03:49] <ubuntu_> :
[03:49] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: sounds like you are looking for hda2 or hda3 depending on how you set up the swap (if you did)
[03:49] <kinus> its not in the menu
[03:49] <kinus> just run it with katapult
[03:49] <waylandbill> alt-f2, then kcontrol
[03:50] <ubuntu_> i did setup a swap as well. so there are 3 partition in total . two for linux and one for xp
[03:50] <cs5> wow
[03:50] <cs5> no help for the simple things in linux
[03:50] <cs5> lol
[03:50] <kinus> whats the problem cs5?
[03:51] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: yeah, so it should be 2 or 3, but won't hurt to look in the disk & filesystems dialog
[03:51] <cs5> just trying to find the sudo command for wireless assistant
[03:51] <ViciouZ^Laptop> http://pastebin.com/943845 <-- does anyone know why this broke? i neeed sound :-(
[03:51] <kinus> oh, sudo wlassistant
[03:51] <cs5> ty very much kinus
[03:51] <kinus> np
[03:51] <kinus> cs5, you should try knetworkmanager - very nice to work with
[03:52] <waylandbill> cs5: you could always do "locate assistant" and find it that way next time.
[03:53] <ubuntu_> hda2 is the linux partion.. :)
[03:53] <cs5> nice
[03:53] <cs5> ty both
[03:53] <waylandbill> I like knetworkmanager as well. Is great with a laptop.
[03:53] <Jahman> hi
[03:53] <ubuntu_> now can someone give me a step by step to a command to mount
[03:53] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[03:53] <waylandbill> then you'll want to see what is in the /etc/X11  (ls /mnt/etc/X11)
[03:55] <ubuntu_> using ls /mnt/etc/X11. no such file or directory
[03:56] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: did the partition mount okay?
[03:56] <cs5> kinus, do you have any suggestions for a different torrent client other than ktorrent, it stalls constantly, speed sucks, and no options to speak of.
[03:56] <zorglu> !sound
[03:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:57] <ubuntu_> no idea. :) .. no out put when i entered the command to mount the partition
[03:57] <kinus> cs5, azureus
[03:57] <kinus> azureus.sourceforge.net
[03:57] <cs5> it runs on wine only? or is there a linux version?
[03:58] <ubuntu_> i tried the mount command .. it says is mounted or /mnt busy . so i guess is mounted
[03:58] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: do "mount" on a line by itself. it will show the mounted paritions.
[03:58] <cs5> nm....lol ic
[03:58] <jhutchins> cs5: There are dozens of torrent clients.
[03:59] <cs5> i love utorrent on windows, but i have been looking at alternatives all night
[03:59] <waylandbill> cs5: stalling probably is not the fault of ktorrent, but the lack of quality peers.
[03:59] <cs5> might run it under wine and see how that goes
[03:59] <kinus> cs5, azureus is written in java and runs natively on linux
[03:59] <cs5> oh there are over 1000 seeds
[03:59] <cs5> and 6000 leeches
[03:59] <ubuntu_> shows /dev/hda2 on /mnt type ext3 .. so i guess is mounted ok
[03:59] <jhutchins> cs5: Doesn't mean there are good seeds.
[03:59] <cs5> true
[04:00] <cs5> got the first 98.3% in 3 hours
[04:00] <cs5> would have been done in 1 under utorrent
[04:00] <cs5> ill try azureus its always been good to me
[04:00] <jhutchins> azureus is the most popular, generally reported to work well.
[04:00] <jhutchins> I've mostly used ktorrent and bittorrentgui.
[04:00] <kinus> azureues is a bit bloated though
[04:01] <kinus> though i guess thats a java problem
[04:01] <kinus> though java6 is quite a bit faster
[04:01] <cs5> slow down, bloated? or just lots of options to find?
[04:01] <waylandbill> ubuntu
[04:01] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: how about ls /mnt/etc
[04:01] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: By default, kubuntu mounts devices as root-only.
[04:01] <jhutchins> This may help:
[04:02] <cs5> thanx again guys
[04:02] <jhutchins> !floppy | ubuntu_
[04:02] <ubotu> ubuntu_: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[04:02] <ubuntu_> using this commnad i get no such file or directory
[04:02] <stdin> jhutchins: by default it's rw
[04:02] <jhutchins> stdin: Yes, for root only
[04:03] <irroc> hello
[04:03] <ubuntu_> just using ls /mnt/etc .. now i got list of stuff in /etc
[04:03] <stdin> jhutchins: no, I meant "rwxr-xr-x"
[04:03] <jhutchins> stdin: You must be running a different distro than I am.
[04:03] <ViciouZ^Laptop> i hate alsa-source :-(
[04:04] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: is X11 one of the entries? note that the X is not x but X. :-)
[04:04] <ubuntu_> OK , NOW i am in X11 folder
[04:04] <kinus> who's trying to install alsa from source? - thats crazy
[04:04] <stdin> jhutchins: no, that's the standard (at least when mounting ext3)
[04:04] <ubuntu_> ihave two xorg.conf .. on with conf~
[04:04] <ubuntu_> one with xorg.conf and other with xorg.conf~
[04:05] <ViciouZ^Laptop> kinus: I'm trying to install the driver for module intel8x0
[04:06] <ViciouZ^Laptop> the log is here: http://pastebin.com/943845
[04:06] <ViciouZ^Laptop> a guide told me to use alsa-source
[04:07] <ubuntu_> now, how can i read the  content of xorg and modify that so i can restore to old default NVIDIA drive ?
[04:07] <kinus> ViciouZ^Laptop, checking your pastebin
[04:08] <ViciouZ^Laptop> kinus: thanks mate :-)
[04:10] <kinus> ViciouZ^Laptop, some problem with memalloc - dunno how to solve it though
[04:10] <ViciouZ^Laptop> kinus: what does memalloc do?
[04:11] <kinus> memory allocation
[04:11] <ViciouZ^Laptop> so could it be a memory problem?
[04:11] <kinus> no, i dont think so
[04:12] <Ayabara> when I compile diskdev_cmds I get an error saying :error: openssl/sha.h: No such file or directory". any helpers?
[04:12] <kinus> line 468 gives a clue
[04:12] <kinus> Ayabara, no sha headers
[04:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Hey hoo
[04:13] <Ayabara> kinus, what is sha?
[04:13] <ViciouZ^Laptop> is there a pre compiled version of intel8x0?
[04:13] <kinus> its a checksum type of thing
[04:14] <kinus> Ayabra, try sudo apt-get install openssl
[04:14] <FroggyTheGreat> I booted up with a liveCD to try to recover some data from my wife's XP system.  Where would I find the Windows data in the Linux filesystem?
[04:14] <kinus> FroggyTheGreat, you'll need to mount the windows partition
[04:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok.  Um.
[04:14] <kinus> !mount | FroggyTheGreat
[04:14] <ubotu> FroggyTheGreat: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Thanks.
[04:15] <kinus> np
[04:16] <cs5_> op can you kick my ghost plz.
[04:16] <cs5_> cs5
[04:16] <ubuntu_> i mounted linux partition and need to modify xorg. i am using live cd. can anyone help please. ? using KATE .. i was not able to save it
[04:32] <kinus> ubuntu_, run kate sudo maybe?
[04:32] <cs5_> riddell: could you plz. kill my ghost, its from my disconnected wireless connection
[04:32] <ubuntu_> whats the command ?
[04:32] <michael> Hallo !
[04:32] <ubuntu_> i used sudo Kate . and i got error
[04:32] <kinus> ubuntu_, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <michael> deutscher channel ?
[04:32] <nalm> hey
[04:32] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu_: when i edit with kate i bring up the kmenu and instead of clicking on kate right click on kate. click put into run dialog. when the run dialog comes up click options then run as diffrent user. the user you want to run as is root. enter your root password in the password block and click ok
[04:32] <michael> Hallo ! wie komme ich in den deutschen channel ?
[04:32] <pag> !de | michael
[04:32] <ubuntu_> do i have to modify xorg.conf using /dev/X11 or /mnt/etc/X11 ?
[04:32] <cs5> riddell: cancel that last request, ty
[04:32] <FroggyTheGreat> Oo, cool, hard drive failure.
[04:32] <cs5> used nickserv
[04:32] <ubuntu_> using live cd , is it possible to revert back to default Nvidia driver ???
[04:32] <ubuntu_> i did install nvidia-glx .. but need to go back so i can boot to KDM
[04:32] <_tsdgeos> ubuntu_: yes
[04:32] <ubuntu_> how
[04:32] <ubuntu_> :)
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:32] <_tsdgeos> not sure
[04:32] <_tsdgeos> do you have your partition mounted?
[04:32] <ubuntu_> yes
[04:32] <ubuntu_> i just modified xorg , changed from NVIDIA to nv . going to reboot . maybe it works this time
[04:32] <nuxil> Hi all
[04:32] <tsdgeos> ok
[04:32] <nuxil> anyone got some time to help me? i need some help getting my comport working.. i have no idea why its not working..
[04:32] <lebies> hi all, simple question answered please - does beryl work on kubuntu feisty (ATI X1950)?
[04:33] <kinus> lebies, beryl works on pretty much everything
[04:33] <lebies> kinus: tks, im at my wits end trying to get it going, i get the feeling i'm so close - but something is missing and i don't know what !
[04:33] <lebies> i'm about to reinstall ubuntu, and run kde on that!
[04:33] <stoned> NO!
[04:33] <stoned> you have ati and beryl will not work on X
[04:33] <stoned> well, you'll have to use the fglrx drivers afaik and they don't do what they should
[04:33] <stoned> the free drivers do support 3d now, but not on that card you have
[04:33] <lebies> have them installed and running, and they worked on gnome
[04:33] <stoned> I have X1900
[04:33] <stoned> lebies: yeh, you have to use Xgl
[04:33] <stoned> they don't work on X
[04:33] <lebies> yep, doing that too (i think)
[04:33] <stoned> what?
[04:33] <lebies> stoned: Xgl
[04:33] <stoned> oh
[04:33] <lebies> i've followed 2 basic howtos, covering xgl and beryl (on x1900-series)
[04:33] <bronze> Can anyone name the kubuntu alternatives to ubuntu software? File manager, music player etc?
[04:34] <lebies> i can see changes that tell me something is running, but not the way it should be
[04:34] <kinus> bronze, there are great alternatives for everything
[04:34] <kinus> file manager = konqueror
[04:34] <kinus> music player = amarok
[04:34] <lebies> i'm obviously missing something, somewhere
[04:34] <XziizX> Hi all, cam someone help a noob?
[04:36] <XziizX> I have WinXp on c: and will install Kubuntu on K:. Is all I have to do just install and go on?
[04:36] <lebies> and although i'm doing my best to research properly and thouroughly before simply asking here, i seem to be going around in circles
[04:37] <XziizX> anyone?
[04:37] <jrjx> !version
[04:37] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:37] <jrjx> That's what I want.
[04:37] <kinus> or uname -a
[04:37] <voidmage> You need to figure out what physical drive K: is on
[04:37] <voidmage> don't know how to do that thogh
[04:38] <XziizX> My k drive is an hole fysical drive. I have just put it in
[04:38] <voidmage> yeah, but you need to know what number it is
[04:38] <voidmage> like sda1, hdb3
[04:38] <voidmage> that kind of thing
[04:38] <XziizX> ok
[04:38] <voidmage> and I don't remember how to do that
[04:39] <voidmage> Maybe you could mount it on a livecd and compare the data
[04:39] <llutz> XziizX: "sudo fdisk -l" and find out which is the right one
[04:40] <Lamington> !ntfs
[04:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:40] <Lamington> :D
[04:40] <XziizX> llutzu, I'm on XP now
[04:40] <Lamington> !ntfs-3g
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:40] <voidmage> you want to find which physical drive your K:drive is on so you can install it there, right?
[04:40] <lebies> XziizX: if all your other disks are labelled properly, you'll easily pick up which is your new one from your winXP
[04:42] <XziizX> ops their not I think. I have just put them in and installed XP..
[04:42] <XziizX> All I've did was split C: to C: and D:
[04:43] <XziizX> But my main q is if it's pooible to have kubuntu and xp on the same pc?
[04:44] <jrjx> Okay.  lsb_release -a says my release version is 5.10.  When I try to use aptitude to update stuff, it complains that all my repositiries have gone away.  What can / should I do, if anything, while not breaking my known working system?
[04:44] <vzduch> XziizX: of course it is
[04:44] <colo_work> hi all
[04:45] <colo_work> can anyone explain to me how knetworkmanager included in kubuntu 7.04 is supposed to work?
[04:45] <voidmage> colo_work: what are you trying to do?
[04:45] <XziizX> due to that xp is on c: xp will start when I boot?
[04:45] <voidmage> !grub
[04:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:45] <voidmage> jrjx: So you're on breezy right now?
[04:46] <colo_work> voidmage: I'd like to have a listing of available wirless networks to connect to, and klick on one of those to do so (just like networkmanager in GNOME/Ubuntu offers me)
[04:46] <voidmage> colo_work: it should just work like that
[04:46] <voidmage> you should see it in the tray area
[04:46] <colo_work> yeah, I do
[04:46] <dr_willis> someone care to check and see if   http://wibc.com/streaming/streamingpage.aspx    - streams the radio station to them ? cant seem to get it working with linux. :(
[04:46] <colo_work> but I did not find a way yet to list networks
[04:46] <voidmage> click on it?
[04:46] <jrjx> I assume so.  5.10, anyway.  I have a dialup connection tho, not broadband.  And semi-limited disk space, about 120 MB free at this time.
[04:46] <colo_work> there's just "Enable Wireless" and "Disable Wirless"
[04:46] <voidmage> make sure wireless is on
[04:47] <voidmage> jrjx: there's no really easy way to do it. You should probably order dapper and feisty cds
[04:47] <colo_work> no matter if i click left or right, it always pops up the settings menu
[04:47] <voidmage> now it should just work
[04:47] <voidmage> not sure why it's not
[04:47] <colo_work> well, that context menu with "Quit", "Options" et al in it
[04:47] <colo_work> Wireless is enabled
[04:47] <jrjx> And try to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.04, and then from 6.04 to 6.10, and so on and so on?
[04:48] <voidmage> there should be a header for wired and wireless networks
[04:48] <colo_work> however, "Show Networks" gives me a treeview with two emty trees in it
[04:48] <voidmage> and everything in range SHOULD just pop up
[04:48] <HayaBusa> ok guys, I like to thank everyone who help me to fix my nvidia problme. i managed using llive CD to change the xorg so i can boot to kdm .. now the question is , where i can find info on installing nvidia driver on my kubuntu ????
[04:48] <jrjx> (I'm not down on the names, I understand the numeric system better.)
[04:48] <voidmage> you actually need to go breezy->dapper->edgy->feisty
[04:48] <voidmage> I recommend at this point you do a clean install
[04:49] <dr_willis> Egads.. I 2nd that Reccomendation
[04:49] <dr_willis> and 3rd it
[04:49] <jrjx> No good way to backup my personal data, currently.  One, small, disk.  Hopefully at some point I'll have a second drive installed...
[04:49] <colo_work> voidmage: do you use knetworkmanager?
[04:49] <voidmage> That's really the best option.
[04:49] <voidmage> Otherwise you'd have to upgrade 3 times
[04:49] <voidmage> and it could get messy
[04:49] <voidmage> colo_work: yeah and it works fine
[04:50] <jrjx> I understand.  Basically the repositories for 5.10 have been decommissioned, then?
[04:50] <colo_work> voidmage: would you be so kind and provide me with a screenshot where available networks are displayed?
[04:50] <jrjx> (What's the file saying what repositories to use?)
[04:50] <lonewolf_> HEy guys, I'm having a little trouble with most of my apps taht use the internet.
[04:50] <lonewolf_> I can browse the internet, etc
[04:51] <lonewolf_> but all apps taht would require port forwarding dont work, and I'm pretty sure i forwarded the ports right.
[04:51] <lonewolf_> is tehre something else i need to do *inside* the OS?
[04:52] <llutz> lonewolf_: if you haven't installed iptables or similar: no
[04:53] <lonewolf_> llutz there was one field in my router i wasnt sure about. it said "portmap:"
[04:53] <lonewolf_> I was trying to forward port 6881, so my start port i put as 6881, the stop port as 6881, and the port map as 6881
[04:53] <lonewolf_> did i do it wrong llutz?
[04:53] <nuxil> can anyone help me getting my comport working under feisty?
[04:54] <dr_willis> gotta love torrent song and dancing.. :)
[04:54] <dr_willis> nuxil,  you mean your serial port?
[04:54] <nuxil> yep
[04:54] <voidmage> colo_work: http://aeonslair.com/files/knetworkmanager.png
[04:54] <nuxil> i have no idea why i cant get it to work
[04:54] <voidmage> jrjx: but before you upgrade you have to make sure you're up to date
[04:54] <voidmage> honestly, there's no easy way to do it
[04:54] <colo_work> voidmage: 404 over here ;)
[04:54] <voidmage> try now
[04:54] <voidmage> and I still stand by backing up your data, package list, server config files and doing a fresh install of feisty
[04:55] <voidmage> especially since you have dialup, the packages would take weeks to download
[04:55] <voidmage> 3 times.
[04:55] <dr_willis> Oh yea.. how can you get a package list in a format thats easy to like run a script and have it isntall the packages on a 2nd machine anyway?
[04:55] <colo_work> I see, thanks for your efforts. For me, there's no listing, and no menu at all above "Manual Configuration"
[04:55] <dr_willis> hmm.. thats when that aptcacheer ? server/proxy thing is handy.
[04:55] <dr_willis> !find aptcache
[04:56] <ubotu> Package/file aptcache does not exist in feisty
[04:56] <voidmage> dpkg --get-selections > packagelist
[04:56] <Extrapan> !ati
[04:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <jrjx> Void: No, I fully understand, and agree.  I guess I'll leave well enough alone until I get (1) a second drive (or some other means of backup, maybe a USB flash drive), and (2) either CDs and/or broadband.  It won't kill me to be running old apps.
[04:58] <ViciouZ^Laptop> !sis
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <ViciouZ^Laptop> darnit
[04:58] <nuxil> dr_willis, can you help?
[04:59] <nuxil> http://pastebin.ca/607340
[04:59] <BluesKaj> I installed vmware server, but it doesn't do what i want , so what's the best way to uninstall it ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> nuxil,  whats the issue? heh let me look
[05:00] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  what does you want?
[05:00] <nuxil> i get no input on the com|serial port
[05:00] <cs5> can anyone help me. I xkilled my whole desktop by accident
[05:00] <nuxil> its like its not there.
[05:00] <PhinnFort> cs5: run "kdesktop" somewhere?
[05:00] <nuxil> even thos the kernel sees it as enabled in bios
[05:00] <HayaBusa> checkig the link, it say to install i have to use syste- administration -restricted device manger. but that is not avalible in kubuntu ? right ????
[05:00] <HayaBusa> instruction is for Ubuntu
[05:00] <voidmage> Latency112: please don't PM me
[05:01] <Latency112> voidmage: apologies. Nobody was responding though =/
[05:01] <dr_willis> nuxil,  what do you got connected to the serial port?
[05:01] <nuxil> a irled
[05:01] <nuxil> it works fine,, i tested it on another oc
[05:01] <nuxil> *pc
[05:03] <nuxil> dr_willis, im trying to get my remote controll working,, it needs no extra kernel module to work. it sends raw data on com port. staring lircd and using eigther cat or irw should show me signal.. but it dosent.
[05:04] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, the vmware server doesn't support any sound cards
[05:04] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  huh? i get sound from mine.
[05:04] <dr_willis> i have to add the soundcard to a vmware machine, they are not enabled by default.
[05:05] <dr_willis> nuxil,  hmm.. could be a tty/serial/baud/parity setting.. hard to tell.. been years since ive messed with serial ports.
[05:06] <Latency112> is anyone free to help?  I've been sat here for 20 minutes >.<
[05:06] <nuxil> hmm
[05:06] <BluesKaj> i'm running the free vmware server dr_willis
[05:07] <BluesKaj> not the workstation
[05:07] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  thats what i use.. I get sound on all the live cd's i test
[05:07] <jrjx> Latency: You might need to repeat if the question scrolled off everyone's screen.  But don't spam people either.
[05:07] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you just have to add a 'sound card' to the vmware-session/settings for the vitrual machine.
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I have no recognized soundcard or drivers and tried several installs
[05:08] <Ace2016> vmware sucks, virtualbox is the best
[05:09] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you say you have been using the  settings dialog in vmware, where you can set the hard drive. cdrom iso image, and so forth, and adding a Sound card?
[05:09] <dr_willis> Ace2016,  i find the exxact opposite to be true.
[05:09] <dr_willis> NOT adding a card in the OS.. it has to bee added to the vmware settings befor ya run the OS.
[05:09] <llutz> "sucks vs. best"-postings suck
[05:10] <BluesKaj> the add button is greyed out , dr_willis
[05:10] <dr_willis> i have had very little luck with virtualbox and the livecd's i test.
[05:10] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  now thats odd..
[05:10] <dr_willis> try making a new vmware 'machine'
[05:11] <Latency112>  Excuse me, I'm having trouble forwarding ports on my Router. I'm trying to forward port 6881, (Ktorrent) and my router asks for 3 things. start port, end port, and portmap.  I set them all as 6881. Am I doing something wroing?
[05:12] <cs5> phinnfort: TY, phew.
[05:12] <PhinnFort> np
[05:12] <dr_willis> Latency112,  is this a fairly new router? does it have upnp support?
[05:12] <voidmage> Latency112: maybe portmap should be your lan ip address?
[05:13] <dr_willis> if it does.. you can enable the upnp feature of ktorrent and the router 'should' auto-forward
[05:13] <BluesKaj> ok, I found it dr_willis ...gonna test it out
[05:13] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  :)
[05:14] <voidmage> how does ktorrent compare to utorrent?
[05:14] <Ace2016> I like azureus for torrents, it has a nicer interface
[05:14] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  what i havent found is a way to save a default settings file
[05:14] <Latency112> voidmage: hmmm Perhaps. I'll check teh pre-set rules and see how they are done.
[05:14] <dr_willis> voidmage,  i use ktorrent all the time. I perfer it to utorrent now a days
[05:14] <cs5> dr_willis: do you know any plug-ins for ktorrent to give more functionality in the options?
[05:14] <cs5> or am i stuck with the default plugins only?
[05:14] <dr_willis> cs5,  what functionalyty? theres a lot of plugins allready.
[05:14] <dr_willis> I cant even think of anything else i need.
[05:15] <cs5> I want it to be more like utorrent is I miss the control
[05:15] <cs5> encrypting outgoing traffic is a biggy
[05:16] <dr_willis> Theres a encrypt checkbox i recall...
[05:16] <cs5> i will look again, but i didnt see it on the first few checks through
[05:17] <dr_willis> settings ktorrent - > general tab . at the bottom
[05:18] <cs5> ty
[05:21] <irroc> using kubu as live cd; if i download gxine will i be able to watch video for yahoo
[05:21] <irroc> using kubu as live cd; if i download gxine will i be able to watch video from yahoo
[05:21] <dr_willis> depends on what yahoo videos formats are in.
[05:21] <dr_willis> and you mayneed some extra codec files also.
[05:21] <dr_willis> so i would bet. it may be a bit harder then it looks.
[05:22] <Nyle> hey
[05:22] <dr_willis> got a url to a yahoo video? i can check its format
[05:22] <Nyle> I need  some good games to play
[05:22] <irroc> let me check
[05:22] <Nyle> like 3d game with good  graphics
[05:22] <cs5> happypenguin
[05:22] <cs5> good site
[05:22] <irroc> will look for link but its usually embedded in their page
[05:22] <cs5> for games
[05:22] <irroc> back in a few
[05:23] <Nyle> it only has screenshots of the games in the update
[05:24] <Latency112> Does linux come witha  software firewall?
[05:24] <dr_willis> Nyle,  a new versiion of 'WarSow' came out last week.
[05:24] <dr_willis> !firewall
[05:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:24] <Latency112> by linux i mean ubunto ofc.
[05:24] <dr_willis> Latency112,  yes. :)
[05:24] <Latency112> ok thanks
[05:24] <FroggyTheGreat> So is it normal for the gnome partition tool to sit forever "scanning all devices" when running a livecd?
[05:24] <Latency112> Will i need to change anthing dr_willis In order to allow Ktorrent access?
[05:25] <Nicotin1> Latency112: happy holidays with learning iptables))
[05:25] <Latency112> Nicotin1: this looks scary :(
[05:25] <dr_willis> Latency112,  its disabled by default.
[05:25] <whippy> how can i change the application with opens a file type?
[05:25] <whippy> for example i am surfing through de web,
[05:26] <dr_willis> Latency112,  which is to say theres no firewalling RULES enabled by default.
[05:26] <Latency112> dr_willis: What is? Ktorrent? or Iptables?
[05:26] <dr_willis> ktorrent works fine. :)
[05:26] <whippy> and want to listen to a webradio
[05:26] <dr_willis> this aint windows.. heh
[05:26] <whippy> and klick on .pls file type,
[05:26] <Latency112> dr_willis: My ports are forwarded 100% correctly and im 100% sure of taht.
[05:26] <whippy> and dont wont to open it with audacious,
[05:26] <Latency112> however, Ktorrent still wont get a connection.
[05:26] <whippy> i want to open it with xmms
[05:26] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, i managed to add the soundcard but i'd also like to add my KB so that the mute and volume buttons work but the add option in settings is greyed out and i cna't seem to get it to reset ...what's the trick ?
[05:27] <irroc> yahoo
[05:28] <FroggyTheGreat> So I'm trying Gnome's partition manager to get this bloody windows partition to mount via kubuntu livecd.  How fast should it scan all the devices?  I'm going on 5 minutes with no resolution.
[05:29] <yaccin> why is a bug in the kopete-version from feisty that was already fixed in dapper or edgy?
[05:29] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  no idea on the keyboard.
[05:29] <irroc> dr_willis: real easy solution; went to site and asked me to install macromedia which i did; then it worked fine; wow this kubu ubun is wonderful
[05:29] <dr_willis> whippy,  i download/save the pls files and  just rightclick/open with.. on them
[05:29] <BluesKaj> yeah but why are the add options greyed out ?
[05:30] <dr_willis> irroc,  you actually wen tot the macromedia site? gee..i use the pakcage manager for that.. dont need to go to their site.
[05:30] <dr_willis> :)
[05:30] <dr_willis> Im suprised the one from their site even worked.
[05:30] <yaccin> ??
[05:30] <dr_willis> !macromedia
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:30] <FroggyTheGreat> Is there a shockwave player yet?  :P
[05:30] <whippy> @dr_wills yeah,
[05:31] <whippy> but i have to do this for every single file,
[05:31] <whippy> i removed audacious
[05:31] <yaccin> Why do i have an old bug in the Feisty-Version of Kopete, when it was fixed months ago???
[05:31] <binks> has anyone got kaffeine0.8.4 working on feisty
[05:31] <whippy> and xmms, doesnt wants to open it automatically from the browser
[05:31] <llutz> yaccin: ask devs
[05:31] <whippy> it say's it cant find the
[05:31] <yaccin> llutz: where?
[05:31] <irroc> dr_willis: yes that is what i mean; it took me to adept steps itself; i did not have to do really anything
[05:32] <whippy> the asscociated helper application does not exist.
[05:32] <llutz> yaccin: launchpad
[05:32] <irroc> yes it was macromedia
[05:32] <yaccin> i dont know anything about launchpad
[05:33] <llutz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[05:36] <yaccin> it says there that the bug is fixed
[05:36] <yaccin> :(
[05:36] <FroggyTheGreat> So what does it generally mean when the gnome partition tool on a Kubuntu livecd can't actually finish scanning the devices, but keeps on in perpetuity?
[05:37] <dr_willis> i would guess... the system is hung...
[05:37] <yaccin> "fixed upstream as of 06/08/2007"
[05:37] <yaccin> but its still there :(
[05:37] <dr_willis> or the hd is flakey.
[05:37] <FroggyTheGreat> Anything else I can try if the hd is flaky?
[05:37] <spheard> Hi, how do I change the swap partition?
[05:37] <dr_willis> is there impornt data on it?
[05:37] <dr_willis> spheard,  change it to what?
[05:38] <spheard> another partition
[05:38] <FroggyTheGreat> My wife's e-mail, which is important data...
[05:38] <dr_willis> make a swap partition on the other hd. mkswap /dev/whateveritis, add proper fstab entry,
[05:38] <dr_willis> FroggyTheGreat,   gpartd hung while scanning the disks, not while changeing the disks ?
[05:38] <FroggyTheGreat> Correct
[05:39] <dr_willis> I would use a live cd, and  mount the hd's and backup the imporntant information somewhere.
[05:39] <spheard> dr_willis, I already have the partition. Its the proper fstab entry thats worrying me. Whats the UUID?
[05:39] <dr_willis> Its possible that the hd needs to be scandisked from windows, and defragged. which might fix it.
[05:39] <dr_willis> spheard,  you really dont need to use the uuid
[05:39] <dr_willis> but if you WANT the uuid
[05:39] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[05:39] <dr_willis> shows them
[05:39] <tobstarr> hi
[05:40] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm trying to mount the hd so I can back up the info, that's the problem.
[05:40] <spheard> niiiice thanks
[05:40] <FroggyTheGreat> I can't get it to mount, either with the KDE or the Gnome tooll
[05:40] <rrichie> hi all
[05:40] <rrichie> still no kde4 ubuntu packages?
[05:40] <dr_willis> FroggyTheGreat,  thats when mounting from the shell is the defacto wya to mount :)
[05:40] <dr_willis> rrichie,  not for several months - would be my guess
[05:40] <tobstarr> I am trying to use skype
[05:40] <FroggyTheGreat> What's the syntax?
[05:40] <dr_willis> since kde4 isent even veryuseable at this time
[05:40] <tobstarr> but my voice is distorted
[05:40] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:40] <tobstarr> any ideas?
[05:41] <dr_willis> mount /dev/whatever /media/wheever
[05:41] <FroggyTheGreat> Thanks
[05:41] <dr_willis> ooooodles of mount howtos/docs on the net. :)
[05:41] <dr_willis> i gotta run. have fun
[05:41] <FroggyTheGreat> the /media/whatever needs to be an existing directory?
[05:42] <Nicotin1> FroggyTheGreat? yes..
[05:42] <ax1s> hey .. what would be a good channel to join to discuss dvd/multimedia
[05:42] <Nyle> hmm
[05:43] <ax1s> trying to get something like nerovision express.. devede scratches some avi's
[05:43] <stoned> konversation
[05:43] <yaccin> llutz: what can i do now?
[05:43] <spheard> dr_willis can I mount the swap without restarting?
[05:43] <Nyle> yes  you can
[05:43] <ax1s> can't even find out if nerovision express works with WINE
[05:44] <Nyle> man swapon
[05:44] <Nyle> what is nerovision
[05:44] <llutz> yaccin: maybe ask in #kubuntu-devel or build your own, fixed kopete
[05:44] <ax1s> nerovision converts .avi (not mpeg) to vcd/dvd
[05:44] <spheard> Nyle :-) thx
[05:45] <Nyle> there is this software that does it
[05:45] <ax1s> hopefully gui?
[05:45] <Nyle> mencoder
[05:45] <ax1s> uhg
[05:45] <ax1s> that's what devede is using
[05:45] <Nyle> yes it has a kde frontend
[05:45] <ax1s> and it breaks certain avi's
[05:45] <ax1s> unlike nerovision
[05:45] <Nyle> kmencoder or kmenc or something
[05:45] <ax1s> hrm
[05:45] <ax1s> *tries
[05:45] <Nyle> mencoder is awesome
[05:45] <ax1s> everything has worked except like
[05:46] <ax1s> a few crucial  flix
[05:46] <ax1s> with it
[05:46] <Nyle> pr0n eh?
[05:46] <Nyle> hehe
[05:46] <ax1s> nah
[05:46] <ax1s> TS
[05:46] <ax1s> ;D
[05:46] <ax1s> stupid telesync
[05:46] <llutz> !enter|ax2s
[05:46] <ubotu> ax2s: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:46] <ax1s> it's good qual tho
[05:46] <ax1s> fuck off llutz you're a fag
[05:46] <ax1s> i don't see anyone else chatting
[05:46] <ax1s> i'll leave tho if it makes you feel better
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> !language
[05:46] <Nyle> oh dudes
[05:46] <ax1s> Daisuke_Ido: Suck my balls
[05:47] <ax1s> i have 100 ip's
[05:47] <Nyle> ax1s: chill
[05:47] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:47] <ax1s> bye
[05:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:47] <ax1s> fags
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that's someone who we don't need using kubuntu
[05:47] <llutz> teenage-day today?
[05:47] <Nyle> I'm hungry
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> and with the influx of windows users, we're going to get more and more like that.
[05:48] <Nyle> I am wondering if i should make an omlete of french toast
[05:48] <Nyle> er.. or*
[05:48] <Nyle> yeh omlete is good i guess
[05:48] <Nicotin1> really..... how can you type so fast...
[05:49] <PhinnFort> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
[05:49] <Nicotin1> wow..
[05:49] <Nicotin1> PhinnFort, connection test?))
[05:49] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:51] <Nicotin1> does somebody know, how can I point message to somebody?
[05:51] <voidmage> put their name in the message
[05:51] <voidmage> usually their highlight picks it up
[05:51] <binks> anyone heard of xine-lib
[05:52] <Nicotin1> voidmage, yeah... good idea)) but it is nessesary to write him/her nickname by hands))
[05:52] <voidmage> tab completion.
[05:53] <PhinnFort> binks: who hasn't?
[05:53] <Nicotin1> voidmage: wow... thank's a lot)
[05:55] <Nicotin1> binks: have some general questions?))
[05:55] <lagarino> hello
[05:55] <cs5> i know you guys go through this more than anything, but could someone help me setup my fsdisk properly for mounting my ntfs partition? I have it in fsdisk already but it says only root can mount this device.
[05:56] <lagarino> could anybody help me with usb interfaces with java?
[05:56] <BlackBsd> hi how do get my bluetooth to work on my laptop??  do i have to enable some daemon?
[05:56] <voidmage> systemsettings->bluetooth
[05:56] <Nicotin1> cs5: type sudo -s, and reply mount command...
[05:56] <BlackBsd> cs5 use sudo
[05:57] <lagarino> what library should I use to use usb devices in java code?
[05:57] <cs5> so i need to sudo mount manually each time even with my fsdisk setup?
[05:57] <BlackBsd> what is fsdisk?
[05:57] <BlackBsd> you mean fdisk
[05:57] <cs5> fdisk sry
[05:57] <cs5> yes
[05:57] <cs5> lol
[05:58] <BlackBsd> you can fun fdisk from the command line   "sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[05:58] <BlackBsd> "
[05:58] <BlackBsd> and you dont use fdisk to mount the devices
[05:58] <BlackBsd> you can use mount
[05:58] <BlackBsd> fdisk is used to minipulate the partition table
[05:58] <cs5> ah ic
[05:59] <BlackBsd> thats pretty much all it does
[05:59] <cs5> ok
[05:59] <BlackBsd> are you needing to mount a windows drive?
[05:59] <cs5> yes
[05:59] <cs5> i have user options set in fdisk for it, should i remove those entries
[05:59] <Nicotin1> mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/devname /media/folder))
[05:59] <Nicotin1> or somethig like this))
[05:59] <BlackBsd> you can put that information in the /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Nicotin1> BlackBsd: does kubuntu supports ntfs?
[06:00] <llutz> !ntfs
[06:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:00] <llutz> !ntfs-3g
[06:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:00] <PhinnFort> Nicotin1: yes
[06:00] <BlackBsd> but normally it might look something like this "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows"
[06:01] <Nicotin1> BlackBsd: yeah))
[06:01] <cs5> i have to mkdir first though right?
[06:01] <Nicotin1> llutz: thanks)) that was a general question))) I really don't need ntfs or fat))
[06:02] <BlackBsd> or you can use fuse which is probally the better way to go anyways
[06:02] <BlackBsd> but you dont need to do anything with fdisk if the windows partition is already there
[06:02] <BlackBsd> do you have an idea where you want to mount the drive?
[06:02] <BlackBsd> such as /mnt/win  or /mnt/whatever
[06:03] <cs5> blackbsd: was that to me?
[06:04] <BlackBsd> yes
[06:04] <java1> any adept experts out there
[06:04] <cs5> blackbsd: yes i was thinking /media/linshard
[06:05] <BlackBsd> normally i have my windows drives mounted on my linux file system at /mnt/win
[06:05] <BlackBsd> but you can put it anywhere you want to
[06:05] <cs5> or something to be able to save to and share with my linux
[06:05] <BlackBsd> just make sure the directory is not being used already
[06:05] <BlackBsd> technically you can mount over a directory that is already populated but thats another subject
[06:05] <cs5> will i have access to other files and folders already on windows?
[06:05] <BlackBsd> that would work also
[06:06] <BlackBsd> you should follow lutz and use the links he/she gave..
[06:06] <java1> adept failed to fully install a package and now will not not relaunch since it thinks the database is still being used
[06:06] <BlackBsd> fuse is a good peice of software
[06:06] <llutz> BlackBsd: he :)
[06:06] <PhinnFort> !adeptfix | java1
[06:06] <BlackBsd> yes
[06:07] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[06:07] <BlackBsd> with fuse you can even write to the windows drive
[06:07] <BlackBsd> without fuse you can only read
[06:07] <cs5> i am currently doing so. Good thing i love reading
[06:07] <PhinnFort> with fuse you can use GMail as a disk partition
[06:07] <ubotu> java1: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:07] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:07] <cs5> really? Nice
[06:07] <PhinnFort> gmailfs
[06:07] <PhinnFort> !find gmailfs
[06:07] <ubotu> Found: gmailfs
[06:08] <BlackBsd> phinnfort, i did not know that.  thats sweet
[06:08] <PhinnFort> !info gmailfs
[06:08] <ubotu> gmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB
[06:08] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:08] <binks> PhinnFort: sorry i found it in ubuntu its called libxine not xine-lib
[06:08] <BlackBsd> does anyone have bluetooth working??
[06:08] <PhinnFort> binks: oh, ok
[06:08] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: I'm going to when I buy myself a new laptop;)
[06:09] <BlackBsd> i got that dell lappy before the linux was being put on it and mine came with internal bluetooth
[06:10] <BlackBsd> just wondered if kubuntu automaticly had it working
[06:10] <maverick_> yeah
[06:10] <PhinnFort> Black'
[06:10] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: I think it should
[06:10] <maverick_> blackbsd: it works out of the box
[06:11] <BlackBsd> i have been trying to get it to work, should i start a service or something?
[06:11] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: bluez?
[06:11] <PhinnFort> !bluetooth
[06:11] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:11] <BlackBsd> thank you...
[06:11] <PhinnFort> voila
[06:11] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:12] <java1> thanks uboto worked great.
[06:13] <Darkrift> what would be the best wifi cracking tools to use?
[06:13] <PhinnFort> java1: he's a 'bot
[06:13] <PhinnFort> giyf
[06:13] <PhinnFort> haven't bothered with that since ages ago
[06:14] <Darkrift> my internet is gonna be down for 2 days, and i wanna connect to one of the ones near me
[06:14] <Darkrift> lol
[06:14] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:14] <BlackBsd> pirate...
[06:14] <BlackBsd> :-P
[06:14] <PhinnFort> "do what you will 'cause a pirate is free..."
[06:14] <PhinnFort> ;P
[06:14] <Darkrift> :)
[06:15] <PhinnFort> http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=370636&rl=1
[06:15] <BlackBsd> anyone see transformers?
[06:15] <BlackBsd> i really liked it
[06:15] <PhinnFort> I heard it sucked bollocks
[06:16] <PhinnFort> was made to cater teenagers that wasn't even born when transformers was "in"
[06:16] <PhinnFort> but, I haven't seen it, no;)
[06:16] <BlackBsd> lol
[06:16] <visham> hi folks
[06:16] <BlackBsd> i think it was the biggest money maker this summer so far..
[06:16] <PhinnFort> !hi | visham
[06:16] <ubotu> visham: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:17] <visham> !hi | PhinnFort
[06:17] <ubotu> PhinnFort: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:17] <PhinnFort> thanks, thanks
[06:17] <visham> thanks
[06:17] <visham> PhinnFort
[06:17] <PhinnFort> yeah, no problem
[06:18] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: look at what they include in mpentoo, http://www.pentoo.ch/-Tools-List-.html
[06:18] <PhinnFort> airsnort, aircrack, etc.
[06:18] <PhinnFort> wepcrack
[06:18] <PhinnFort> http://www.windowsecurity.com/whitepapers/Wireless-Cracking-Tools.html
[06:18] <visham> PhinnFort u use nmap?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> capisce?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> visham: when needed, yes
[06:18] <visham> i got some problem with it
[06:18] <PhinnFort> but not obsessively
[06:18] <PhinnFort> visham: tried running it as root?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> sudo nmap
[06:19] <visham> the command nmap -sS -T4 -O <host>
[06:19] <visham> freezes my modem or my ehternet card
[06:19] <visham> i can figure out
[06:19] <visham> i cant figure out
[06:19] <PhinnFort> visham: intensive traffic?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> visham: try trotthling it more
[06:20] <visham> PhinnFort like T!
[06:20] <visham> PhinnFort like T1
[06:20] <PhinnFort> yeah
[06:20] <visham> but it isn't able to handle T4 then how can it handle T1 ?
[06:20] <PhinnFort> visham: higher is faster
[06:21] <visham> PhinnFort ya i know that
[06:21] <visham> PhinnFort faster == more traffic ?
[06:21] <PhinnFort> visham: yeah
[06:22] <visham> PhinnFort then if T4 can't be handled by the modem then how can it handle T1
[06:22] <PhinnFort> visham: T1 is less traffic than T4
[06:24] <visham> trying it right now
[06:26] <visham> PhinnFort thanks its kinda working now
[06:26] <PhinnFort> yw
[06:27] <visham> PhinnFort will be confirmed after a few test runs
[06:27] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:27] <visham> PhinnFort actually its running pretty well at T#
[06:27] <visham> PhinnFort actually its running pretty well at T3
[06:27] <PhinnFort> nice
[06:27] <nicotin_e> fantasy....... so various ip-adresses.... from all over the world...
[06:28] <dewitt> I would like to become more familiar with teminal commands, is there a site to help
[06:28] <Darkrift> nobody here has ever cracked thier way into a wifi network?
[06:28] <PhinnFort> !shell
[06:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:29] <dewitt> Ty
[06:29] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: I set up a laptop displaying all pictures sent over an encrypted wireless network once
[06:29] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: on a high-school
[06:29] <PhinnFort> I have truly seen the darkness of the depths of the human soul
[06:30] <dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:30] <Darkrift> nice
[06:30] <nicotin_e> (07:29:57 PM) PhinnFort: ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[06:30] <Darkrift> im looking more into just connecting to the ap
[06:30] <Darkrift> not in stealing or peaking at thier info
[06:30] <Darkrift> just barrowing the connection for  a few hours
[06:30] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: That's high-school, though. Wait until you see some of the things they look at in college.
[06:30] <shub_> hello every1
[06:31] <shub_> first time using kubuntu
[06:31] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: just set up a laptop to capture packets, and when you have enough run them through appropriate cracker
[06:31] <dr_willis> alt.binary.drunken.idiots.erotica
[06:31] <dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: :D
[06:31] <TeraDyne> shub_: How do you like Kubuntu so far?
[06:31] <shub_> can som1 help me wth installin programs on kubuntu 7.10
[06:31] <shub_> looks wicked
[06:32] <nicotin_e> shub_: looks nice))))
[06:32] <dr_willis> I tend to use the 'add/remove programs' icon :)
[06:32] <shub_> i try tht
[06:32] <ninHer> Adept for instance
[06:32] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: capture with airsnort or something
[06:32] <shub_> bt i van only remove
[06:32] <shub_> cant install anythng
[06:33] <jean__> Hello?
[06:33] <shub_> it dnt let me install anything
[06:33] <shub_> i can remove it
[06:33] <shub_> pro
[06:33] <nicotin_e> shub_: are you using synaptic?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !enter
[06:33] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:33] <shub_> no
[06:33] <dr_willis> you may need to 'update' the repositorie cache first .
[06:34] <MrJean> I'm now to IRC. How can I join the channel for Ubuntu? (Not Kubuntu)
[06:34] <shub_> repositorie cache first ?/
[06:34] <shub_> whatss that
[06:34] <ninHer> shub how are you trying to  install programs ?
[06:34] <shub_> im compelet newbii
[06:34] <shub_> using the add and remove program
[06:34] <nicotin_e> shub_: try something like this at konsole... "sudo apt-cache update "
[06:35] <CrunchyFerrett> ... Is it strange that I dont have an X11.conf ?
[06:35] <shub_> i like to install a codec pack
[06:35] <PhinnFort> CrunchyFerrett: xorg.conf?
[06:35] <shub_> s i can play my avi divx fils
[06:35] <PhinnFort> Cugel:
[06:35] <MrJean> How can I join the channel for the normal Ubuntu?
[06:35] <PhinnFort> Cugel: sorry, ignore please
[06:35] <andreas_> german channel ?
[06:35] <PhinnFort> !de
[06:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:35] <CrunchyFerrett> PhinnFort: Yeah, Xorg.conf sorry
[06:35] <MrJean> Yes
[06:35] <PhinnFort> CrunchyFerrett: ubuntu's version of Xorg is patched so it doesn't need xorg.conf
[06:35] <MrJean> ty
[06:36] <CrunchyFerrett> oh.
[06:36] <nicotin_e> shub_: just do "sudo apt-get update" and then run "sudo apt-get instal mplayer"
[06:36] <MrJean> #ubuntu-de
[06:36] <MrJean> hoops^^
[06:36] <vzduch> MrJean: /join #ubuntu
[06:36] <MrJean> ty
[06:36] <dhq> is there any way i can make my konsole transparent
[06:36] <MrJean> bye
[06:36] <dr_willis> dhq,  true transparancy, or just showing the Background wallpaper. :)
[06:37] <nicotin_e> dr_willis: I think dhq wants bg wallpaper))
[06:37] <dhq> dr_willis, true transparency
[06:37] <nicotin_e> oops..
[06:37] <dhq> dr_willis, without the borders
[06:37] <brightedge> afternoon :)
[06:37] <visham_> PhinnFort the normal mode (-T3) again freezes the modem
[06:37] <dr_willis> dhq,  and the point of this is? :)
[06:38] <dr_willis> dhq,  may have to do some work for that. Not sure how to do it without that beryl/compqiz stuff.. that may be the only way
[06:38] <visham_> PhinnFort and i'm impatient enough to not to go to -T2
[06:38] <dhq> dr_willis, well i was reading somewhere that it is possible
[06:38] <PhinnFort> visham_: I'm no networkings expert, sorry;)
[06:38] <visham_> i cant to things that slow
[06:38] <dhq> dr_willis, well can you help me or link me
[06:38] <PhinnFort> visham_: I would fool around a bit with the settings on the modem, but I don't really know what
[06:39] <dr_willis> dhq,  just showing the background is rather easy.. having TRUE transparancey is harder.. and i find it useless.. so i dont use it.
[06:39] <visham_> PhinnFort anyone u suggest
[06:39] <brightedge> Wonder if someone could offer some pointers...  I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 Desktop, and would like to run Zenoss.  The Zenoss site states that it runs on the Server version.  Is there a way to upgrade Kubuntu Desktop to Server?
[06:39] <PhinnFort> visham_: dunno... try #nmap or something
[06:39] <dhq> dr_willis, do you know how can i do it
[06:39] <PhinnFort> brightedge: Ubuntu Server is just Kubuntu without KDE, afaik
[06:39] <visham_> PhinnFort anyone on this channel
[06:39] <PhinnFort> !server
[06:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[06:39] <PhinnFort> visham_: dunno
[06:40] <dhq> !kde4
[06:40] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[06:40] <dr_willis> dhq,  id have to google/check the wiki/forums for compiz.. good luck.
[06:40] <dr_willis> !compwiz
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <PhinnFort> "not some time yet" = crap
[06:40] <PhinnFort> a couple of months
[06:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[06:40] <brightedge> Thanks everyone.  Since I'm a linux b00n, I would like to stick with KDE.  Is it possible to run KDE on a server?
[06:40] <dhq> dr_willis, well is kde4 beta out
[06:40] <PhinnFort> kde 4 alpha 2 is out
[06:40] <dr_willis> kde4 is BARELY in a beta stage
[06:41] <dr_willis> yea alpha is better term
[06:41] <PhinnFort> *not
[06:41] <dhq> dr_willis, well so it is not yet stable :( when will it be out
[06:41] <dr_willis> seen a livecd with kde4 on it.. it.. dident work.
[06:41] <dr_willis> when its done.
[06:41] <PhinnFort> at least that's what the official kde statement said
[06:41] <PhinnFort> dhq: there's a release schedule somewhere
[06:41] <shub_> guys can someone point me right direction where i can get user guide for newbi for kubuntu
[06:41] <shub_> plz
[06:41] <dr_willis> kubuntu homepage ?
[06:42] <brightedge> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[06:42] <ubunturos> shub_: what sort of a guide are you looking for
[06:42] <ubunturos> ?
[06:42] <DarkED> is anyone here using compiz-fusion with k7.04?
[06:42] <dr_willis> would be the first place to look. and the bookmarks in the browser.
[06:42] <PhinnFort> dhq: "KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software. A release date has been scheduled for 23 October 2007.[1] "
[06:42] <PhinnFort> from wikipedia
[06:43] <dhq> PhinnFort, long time more to gooo i cant wait
[06:43] <ubunturos> umm, so Kubuntu 7.04 probably won't have it
[06:43] <PhinnFort> dhq: ;)
[06:43] <shub_> ok can i ask a question
[06:43] <ubunturos> eeks 7.10
[06:43] <shub_> its might sound stupd
[06:43] <ubunturos> shub_: if it might, try searching using a search engine
[06:43] <nicotin_e> DarkED: bad experience with installng compiz.... but beryl is working...
[06:43] <dhq> shub_,just ask the question no need to request
[06:43] <shub_> dos kubuntu works like windows
[06:43] <TeraDyne> ubunturos: Neither Gutsy nor Gutsy+1 will have it according to Riddell
[06:44] <ubunturos> TeraDyne: umm ...
[06:44] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: that's not what anonuncements ay
[06:44] <brightedge> shub_:  being a windows native and kubuntu b00n, I can say that it's similar, but not exactly like win
[06:44] <shub_> o oki
[06:44] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: That's what he said at aKademy.
[06:44] <ubunturos> shub_: and don't expect Linux to become equal to Windows
[06:44] <brightedge> shub_:  try booting your pc using the live cd, and see what I mean
[06:44] <ubunturos> shub_: rather, you can customize it for you to use it easily
[06:45] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: there will be packages available, but not default?
[06:45] <shub_> its nice i like it
[06:45] <PhinnFort> or?
[06:45] <shub_> its loks betta then windows
[06:45] <dhq> shub_, ubuntu will always have 10 times upper hand compared to windows and it is free
[06:45] <PhinnFort> that's what I meant
[06:45] <shub_> wrks better
[06:45] <ubunturos> shub_: :)
[06:45] <shub_> bt u knw im compelet newbi
[06:45] <shub_> never use kubuntu
[06:45] <shub_> first time
[06:45] <ubunturos> shub_: well, start exploring the Help file
[06:45] <dr_willis> !enter
[06:45] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:45] <ubunturos> shub_: open Konqueror
[06:46] <dhq> shub_, you will learn stick around read forums and the user guide you will have kubuntu in your fingers
[06:46] <ubunturos> shub_: it should be the second icon the task bar. You can click the Help file link on the home page of konqueror
[06:46] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: that it won't be in by default. He never mentioned anything about extra repos, but you know that there will be some.
[06:46] <RivaeAerya> how do you set sounds in kde for window actions? (like minimizing)
[06:46] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  theres a control panel icon that does that
[06:46] <shub_> ok
[06:46] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: from what I've heard/read, there will be "official" kde4 packages available for Gutsy
[06:46] <nich0s> Hey allz, does anyone know the keyboard shortcut to switch desktops?
[06:46] <shub_> let me try to find it
[06:46] <shub_> loll
[06:46] <RivaeAerya> dr_willis: which one?
[06:46] <brightedge> Again, thanks for your help.  I'm going to check out the server channel
[06:47] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  no idea.. proberly says sound, or feedback, or somthing :)
[06:47] <dr_willis> i disable all that junk on a new install
[06:47] <RivaeAerya> found it
[06:47] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: I didn't hear anything about that. It's good to know, though.
[06:47] <dr_willis> right where you would expect it to be.. :)
[06:48] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: well, I wasn't even at akademy, but that's what I picked up;)
[06:48] <shub_> ok i got it
[06:48] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: There are videos up on the aKademy website.
[06:48] <ubunturos> nich0s: Ctrl + Fx key where x is the desktop you want to go
[06:48] <nich0s> ubunturos: Thanks
[06:48] <ubunturos> nich0s: :)
[06:49] <PhinnFort> smplayer is schweet
[06:49] <ubunturos> shub_: from India?
[06:49] <shub_> uk
[06:49] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: http://akademy.kde.org/conference/programme.php < The little video icons are links to the ogg\Theora vidoes of the talks.
[06:49] <PhinnFort> nice
[06:49] <PhinnFort> thanks
[06:50] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: Riddell's talk is near the bottom of the page.
[06:50] <shub_> wer u frm
[06:50] <PhinnFort> thanks
[06:50] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: yw
[06:50] <Nyle> hey
[06:50] <Nyle> how do i get direct rendering
[06:50] <lamlurkey> how do i creat a missing file in "/ect/" Kppp says it can be empty
[06:51] <ubunturos> shub_: India. Your nick appeared to have a indian touch ;)
[06:51] <Nyle> i'm using fglrx and glxinfo says i have indirect rendering
[06:51] <shub_> lol
[06:51] <Nyle> direct rendering: No
[06:51] <ubunturos> shub_: and surprisingly, you are using SMS words
[06:51] <Nyle> any help
[06:51] <dhq> dr_willis, i have a konsole open window i dont want it to be displayed in the taks bar what do i do
[06:51] <shub_> loll
[06:51] <shub_> wel u know
[06:51] <shub_> im use to msn
[06:51] <dr_willis> dhq,  explore the 'taskbar' settings :)
[06:52] <ubunturos> shub_: ah, I see
[06:52] <shub_> but trying something new
[06:52] <ubunturos> shub_: umm. Great! Get going!
[06:52] <shub_> yeah
[06:52] <shub_> lots of reading to do
[06:52] <vzduch> shub_: you better write so that other ppl can read what you throw at us :)
[06:52] <shub_> wher u from btw
[06:52] <ubunturos> shub_: India. I mentioned it earlier. :)
[06:52] <dr_willis> half the work - is asking a proper question.
[06:52] <nich0s> ubunturos: Do you know where I can just get a list of the Keyboard shortcuts for KDE?
[06:53] <shub_> o oki
[06:53] <shub_> im orignly from india
[06:53] <shub_> but living in uk
[06:53] <dr_willis> nich0s,  look at the control panel applet for them. i always change a few around.
[06:53] <ubunturos> nich0s: KDE user guide
[06:53] <dr_willis> nich0s,  may be a list in the kde guide/help somewhere.
[06:54] <dr_willis> but its all so changeable.. its  hard to have a definitive list
[06:54] <gumjo> I had no idea, they had something like akademy....wonder if they show any interested kde4 features
[06:54] <ubunturos> shub_: ah, there you go!
[06:54] <shub_> lol
[06:55] <ubunturos> shub_: have you installed Kubuntu or on the LIVE CD?
[06:55] <vzduch> gumjo: 'interested KDE4 features'? what are the features interested in? :D
[06:55] <Nyle> anyone
[06:55] <TeraDyne> XD
[06:55] <vzduch> !anyone | Nyle
[06:55] <ubotu> Nyle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:55] <nicotin_e> Nyle: only installing of proper drivers..
[06:55] <Nyle> dude are you fucking kidding me?
[06:55] <gumjo> interesting* >.>
[06:55] <shub_> i've done full install
[06:55] <nicotin_e> Nyle: it looks like this?
[06:55] <Nyle> 12:50 <            Nyle> how do i get direct rendering
[06:56] <Nyle> 12:50 <            Nyle> i'm using fglrx and glxinfo says i have indirect rendering
[06:56] <ubunturos> shub_: umm. Dual boot?
[06:56] <shub_> nope
[06:56] <shub_> single
[06:56] <ubunturos> shub_: umm
[06:56] <shub_> just kubuntu
[06:56] <CrunchyFerrett> PhinnFort: How then am I supposed to add lines to Xorg.conf, as I am instructed by the README?
[06:56] <shub_> i couldnt make dual boot
[06:56] <PhinnFort> CrunchyFerrett: run the following to get a new one: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[06:56] <dr_willis> im glad my ati cards never seem to give me this hassle.
[06:57] <dr_willis> rember - theres always a dozen ways to do the same thing in linux.
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> and it wont kill anything else?
[06:57] <dr_willis> also rember. it pays to backup config files befor tweaking them
[06:58] <vzduch> PhinnFort, CrunchyFerrett: the -phigh option will likely mess up some settings in xorg.conf, e.g. keyboard layout if you use anything other than en_US
[06:58] <shub_> ubunturos where about in india u form
[06:58] <shub_> from8
[06:58] <PhinnFort> vzduch: I just copied from my xorg.conf file, where it said to run that to regenerate it
[06:59] <dhq> dr_willis, is there any way to run windows on host pc,by a  remote through putty
[06:59] <Nyle> vzduch: so you are going to help or are you just here to use the bot commands on people?
[06:59] <ubunturos> shub_: Mumbai
[06:59] <shub_> O OKI THAT KOOL
[06:59] <vzduch> PhinnFort: I prefer running a full reconfigure if necessary.. takes more time but no need to mess around again :)
[06:59] <dr_willis> dhq,  install xming, under windows, and  you can have a remote linux box, running apps, and they can appear on the local windows machine.
[06:59] <shub_> howz the weather like now
[06:59] <dhq> ubunturos, shub_ you guys intian
[06:59] <dr_willis> dhq,  if thats what you are meaning.
[06:59] <shub_> still raining
[06:59] <Ash-Fox> I let my sister play on my computer, and she's managed to delete all the items in the start menu... How would I restore the default menus without sacraficing .kde ?
[07:00] <ubunturos> shub_: well, we'll have to take that to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <PhinnFort> vzduch: I would run with just a blank config file, if I wasn't too laze
[07:00] <ubunturos> or PM
[07:00] <PhinnFort> *y
[07:00] <shub_> o oki
[07:00] <Nyle> !ati
[07:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <dhq> dr_willis, well it will be linux box to linux box
[07:01] <dr_willis> dhq,  why are you even talking about 'putty' then?
[07:01] <dr_willis> ssh -X remotebox, run the app . :)
[07:01] <dhq> dr_willis, oops
[07:01] <dr_willis> or ssh -Y
[07:01] <dr_willis> if ssh is installed on the box that is. :)
[07:01] <dr_willis> !ssh
[07:01] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:02] <dr_willis> half the work - is asking a proper question. : )
[07:02] <dr_willis> bye all.. bbl
[07:03] <RivaeAerya> How can i make it so that when i type, per character it plays a sound and when i press enter it plays another sound?
[07:08] <Darkrift> damn
[07:08] <Darkrift> seems all the linux wifi hacking tools are command line
[07:09] <Darkrift> why cant there be a tool taht lists the avail networks and you select one and let it go
[07:09] <voidmage> !knetworkmanager
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <Darkrift> why must you read a friggen manual to learn which args to pass a command line tool, then take its output and pass it to another tool to analyze so it can be passed to anohter tool to *ATTEMPT* to crack
[07:09] <voidmage> oh, wifi cracking.
[07:11] <RivaeAerya> How can i make it so that when i type, per character it plays a sound and when i press enter it plays another sound?
[07:11] <Darkrift> typewriter sounds?
[07:11] <RivaeAerya> Darkrift: yep
[07:11] <RivaeAerya> Darkrift: you know how?
[07:12] <Darkrift> windows used to have a feature like this in its accessability tools, bt no idea on linux
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> aww, too bad
[07:12] <Darkrift> actually
[07:12] <Darkrift> i think it would probably be very easy for someone who knows scripting
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> yess?
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> hm
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> well, gotta go.
[07:12] <Darkrift> make a script to look for any keypress and play a sound
[07:13] <Nyle> yeh i got dri
[07:14] <Darkrift> and i got whet
[07:14] <vzduch> lol
[07:18] <BluesKaj> anyone using VMWare Server Console ... I need to add my KB and Mouse drivers , but I forget how to open settings in VMWare so the Settings options aren't greyed out ?
[07:19] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: #vmware
[07:20] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, :)
[07:22] <vzduch> !grub
[07:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <lamlurkey> Can some one tell me how to make a empty file in the /etc folder that is missing?
[07:26] <vzduch> sudo touch /etc/$insertNameOfFileToBeCreated
[07:32] <sum_> sum joined
[07:32] <Morkai> i downloaded a program that is in source code form and it's in a *.jar file ... how do i go about getting it into an executable
[07:38] <nicotin_e> Morkai: *jar is java executable file....
[07:39] <lamlurkey> Thanks vzduch
[07:40] <vzduch> nicotin_e: no, *.jar is a Java archive
[07:40] <yaccin> how do i manually switch between kdm/gdm, when i have both installed?
[07:40] <nicotin_e> vzduch: yes...
[07:41] <yaccin> dpkg-reconfigure kdm?
[07:43] <nicotin_e> my head will finally blow........
[07:43] <nicotin_e> need some smoke...
[07:49] <CrunchyFerrett> PhinnFort, I ran that Xconf reconfigure thing. Now the system hangs mid-boot :(
[07:50] <RivaeAerya> How can i make it so that when i type, per character it plays a sound and when i press enter it plays another sound?
[07:50] <RivaeAerya> like, typewriter sounds
[07:55] <CrunchyFerrett> oy. whats the command to resetup X11 / KDE ?
[07:55] <TeraDyne> CrunchyFerrett: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:56] <eTH0ny> ciao a tutti
[07:56] <eTH0ny> devo chiedere una cosa...
[07:56] <TeraDyne> !it | eTH0ny
[07:56] <ubotu> eTH0ny: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:56] <eTH0ny> scusate!! scuse me!
[07:59] <fssssssssssh> whats the difference between apt-xx and aptitude ?
[07:59] <Mr_Sonoma> CrunchyFerrett: hold control  and alt and press backspace
[08:00] <Mr_Sonoma> doh that's restart
[08:05] <CrunchyFerrett> sigh
[08:05] <CrunchyFerrett> At this juncture, I think I may have one of the most borked up linux installations of all time.
[08:06] <CrunchyFerrett> Perhaps I should just wipe the hdd and start from scratch
[08:08] <Cem_UNAL> can somebody help me there is a bug's screenshot here http://imaj.at/18991
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> !bin
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> !.bin
[08:09] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm   ok, I need help unpackin a .bin file..
[08:09] <CaBlGuY> !chmod
[08:09] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:10] <TeraDyne> Cem_UNAL: are you running Xubuntu?
[08:10] <Cem_UNAL> yeh
[08:11] <Cem_UNAL> TeraDyne: yes
[08:11] <TeraDyne> !xubuntu | Cem_UNAL
[08:11] <ubotu> Cem_UNAL: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:11] <Mr_Sonoma> why not use ark?
[08:11] <CrunchyFerrett> Well, Noah tried using Ark... look where it got him.
[08:12] <Cem_UNAL> TeraDyne: nobody answers me there :(
[08:12] <CrunchyFerrett> TeraDyne: Don't. You'll be disappointed.
[08:12] <TeraDyne> Cem_UNAL: Since that app is also in ubuntu, try #ubuntu
[08:12] <CrunchyFerrett> Its a massive letdown when comared to Bruce Almighty
[08:12] <TeraDyne> CrunchyFerrett: Ok. Thanks for the warning
[08:13] <CaBlGuY> any help??   unpackin a .bin file...
[08:14] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: what .bin file?
[08:14] <TeraDyne> aren't .bin files "binary" files, not archives?
[08:15] <vzduch> general rule: don't install anything from source/shell scripts/etc. if it's in the repos, except you _really_ need to
[08:16] <vzduch> CrunchyFerrett: rofl
[08:17] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: it's google earth..
[08:17] <vzduch> ah ok
[08:18] <vzduch> they should have instructions on how to install
[08:18] <CaBlGuY> I got the chmod dealy down I think but I'm gettin an error..
[08:18] <vzduch> apart from that.. I just see that googleearth _is_ in the repos
[08:19] <CaBlGuY> well, I looked for it but I couldn't find it..
[08:19] <vzduch> !medibuntu
[08:19] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:19] <CaBlGuY> sure would like to get it like that though..
[08:19] <vzduch> add a medibuntu source, install & enjoy :)
[08:20] <CaBlGuY>  reading now..
[08:20] <f0rrest> i just installed kubuntu 6.10. theres no *mutt* installed, and :help doesnt work in *vim* :/
[08:20] <vzduch> f0rrest: install mutt
[08:21] <Mr_Sonoma> you have to add the medibuntu repo to get it with adept or apt-get
[08:21] <f0rrest> vzduch: theres no *curses* library so it doesnt work
[08:21] <vzduch> ncurses-dev?
[08:21] <vzduch> some pkgs need that
[08:21] <f0rrest> theres no *mp3* player either
[08:21] <vzduch> there IS
[08:21] <f0rrest> which
[08:21] <vzduch> you just need to install one
[08:22] <f0rrest> i couldnt install *xmms* because theres no *glib* installed
[08:22] <vzduch> apart from that, why did you install Edgy?
[08:22] <CaBlGuY> now, once I got the repo in my list, the command would be apt-get install googleearth   yes?
[08:22] <Mr_Sonoma> yes
[08:22] <CaBlGuY> k
[08:22] <vzduch> *sigh* obviously someone who doesn't know how to use apt
[08:22] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: first apt-get update
[08:23] <f0rrest> no someone without internet
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you install *xmms* in *kubuntu* when there's already a *non-crappy* media player?
[08:23] <Mr_Sonoma> and it looks like it would be a meta package that will get other packages
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> oops..
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:23] <Mr_Sonoma> <---- didnt think about update
[08:23] <f0rrest> which *player* would that be
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, that was a jab at your excessive and unnecessary use of asterisks.
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok.
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> ok, it's asyin invalid..
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> *sayin
[08:23] <vzduch> f0rrest: then take a bunch of DVD blanks to your favourite cybercaf, download all repos you think fit & set up a local repository
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> apt-get install googleearthI'm entering a
[08:24] <vzduch> definitely easier than fiddling w/ dpkg -i
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok wipes the floor with xmms
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> ummm   oops..   LOL
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> I'm entering apt-get install googleearth
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> there
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:24] <TeraDyne> CaBlGuY: "sudo apt-get install googleearth"
[08:25] <CaBlGuY> still sayin invalid operation...
[08:25] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: did you 'sudo apt-get update' first?
[08:25] <TeraDyne> O_o; Odd... Pastebin the entire error.
[08:25] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  yea, I updated..  but not with sudo..
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> grr..
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> theeeere we go...
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> grrrrr
[08:28] <Mr_Sonoma> why not open adept and search for google earth that way....then select it and click install it will do it for you..sometimes if i dont know the exact name of the package i can find and install faster with the gui
[08:28] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got this..   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29026/
[08:28] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: 'apt-cache search' exists :P
[08:29] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: import the GPG key for the repo, should be described on the site
[08:30] <Mr_Sonoma> hehehehehehe thanks....i knew there had to be something for it from the command line but didnt know exactly
[08:31] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: not seein it..   under Repos how to??
[08:31] <Mr_Sonoma> so when in doubt i always had reverted back to the gui
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Mr_Sonoma: because this isn't windows and there's a use for the command line?
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[08:31] <Mr_Sonoma> <---- never a fan of windows anyways
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> (in other words, the command line interface available in windows is fricking useless)
[08:31] <Mr_Sonoma> agreeded
[08:32] <fritz> hey, i have a problem, 2 of my partitions appear as folders and i can't acces them...any1 have any clues?
[08:32] <Mr_Sonoma> when windows 95 came out the just about all but killed DOS, and in 98 then leading into xp it really became more of a joke
[08:32] <kaminix> Hello, I have a problem with my microphone using skype. My partner can't hear me. Any ideas how to check if the mic is working?
[08:33] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: not seein it..   under Repos how to??
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: not seein it..   under Repos how to??
[08:34] <fritz> hey, i have a problem, 2 of my partitions appear as folders and i can't acces them...any1 have any clues?
[08:34] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: sorry, I was afk for some food :)
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> oops..  saaawwree..
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> my bad..
[08:34] <vzduch> lemme check, didn't read the howto :)
[08:35] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: it's the 2nd line
[08:35] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  ahh,m I see now..
[08:36] <andreas_> !german
[08:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:36] <Winbiko> Is there a email client that doesnt use maildir or mbox to store messages? I have over 4k messages and it seems kmail is choking badly
[08:36] <Winbiko> Maybe one with a sqlite backend?
[08:36] <Novell> Winbiko: I had 10k+ mails with kmail and it worked just fine
[08:36] <NickPresta> I just installed the kicker-kickoff package as I wanted to try kickoff. All is well, however, my kmenu icon changed and it's now larger and ugly. Any idea how to change this icon?
[08:36] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  ok, I got it and did the update and still getting invalid..  :/
[08:36] <Winbiko> Novell: Im not sure what the issue is then.
[08:37] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: wrong repo perhaps?
[08:38] <CaBlGuY> Hmm  I think I see the problem now on the packages page..
[08:38] <vzduch> do you have Edgy?
[08:39] <CaBlGuY> yep..
[08:40] <CaBlGuY> I was thinkin it was this one..  googleearth  4.0.2735.0-0medibuntu2~edgy0.1  but that's not workin eather..  :/
[08:40] <sven> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu (as an ex-fedora user), but I acnt get 3d acceleration to work.. I have an nvidia graphics card.. Anybody who could give me a hint?
[08:40] <TeraDyne> !nvidia | sven
[08:40] <ubotu> sven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <sven> TeraDyne: Thanks!
[08:42] <TeraDyne> sven: no problem
[08:44] <ciacon> hi there. I long back installed kmail on my feisty. the problem is, that my kid managed to squint my PW and uninstall it. now I cant open my Calender and also can't find it... this is a real big problem for me
[08:44] <ciacon> can someone help?
[08:46] <TeraDyne> ciacon: try reinstalling kmail. "sudo apt-get install install kmail"
[08:46] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  I found it on Synaptic..  :p
[08:47] <ciacon> have done that... thoose days I put a shortcut on my desktop -> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///usr/share/applications/kde/Kontact.desktop does not exist.
[08:47] <eloque> sup people
[08:48] <TeraDyne> ciacon: O_O; Wow. I've never seen that. Maybe they removed all of Kontact somehow. Did you try reinstalling Kontact?
[08:48] <eloque> I have a problem with KDE's login screen... when i enter my password and hit enter... it looks as if it is logging in then brings me back to the login screen
[08:49] <Novell> eloque: check ~username/.xsession-errors
[08:49] <eloque> i believe when i tried loging in from console it showed an earlier error message saying something about a resume point or sumthin
[08:49] <ciacon> TeraDyne: sudo aptitude reinstall kontact  ?
[08:49] <TeraDyne> ciacon: yes
[08:50] <eloque> also another issue i had was i was trying to erase some stuff from a mounted drive and suddenly all my downloads and stuff stopped saying my disk was full
[08:50] <eloque> is thi sbecause trying to delete something make the system move it onto the partition that kubuntu is running off of?
[08:51] <ciacon> TeraDyne: ist doing something ;-)
[08:51] <eloque> Novell, what do i do? just browse to that directory?
[08:51] <Novell> eloque: no, it's a file
[08:52] <eloque> ok
[08:52] <cedross> can anyone tell  me how to search with ktorrent 2.2?
[08:52] <eloque> so i enter it as u type above and then?
[08:52] <Novell> you use less, more or some editor to read what's in the file
[08:52] <eloque> ok cool
[08:53] <Novell> the problem should most likely be located at the bottom of the file
[08:53] <eloque> ok
[08:53] <eloque> how do i go about solving it? is that included in the file?
[08:53] <eloque> i doubt i used up all 5 GB of space i had partitioned for Kubuntu
[08:53] <Novell> no it's not, but some clue as what the problem is probably is
[08:53] <eloque> and i would hate to have to reinstall it
[08:53] <Novell> check with: df -h
[08:54] <eloque> ok Novell I'll try and save it somewhere and then come back
[08:54] <eloque> thanks
[08:54] <TeraDyne> 5GB for an ubuntu install? Wow, pushing it, aren't you?
[08:54] <eloque> is that too little?
[08:54] <eloque> i save files i download onto other drives
[08:55] <eloque> but i guess for having updated so much i usta pushed it a little
[08:55] <ciacon> TeraDyne: thanks - worked a treat
[08:55] <TeraDyne> ciacon: good to hear.
[08:56] <ciacon> TeraDyne: one thing you can beleave - that kid is in for some hassle when he gets home...
[08:57] <TeraDyne> ciacon: As someone who's figured out his parents password when he was little, I can beleive it.
[08:57] <sven> TeraDyne: On that page, it says "As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager", but I don't have "Administration" in my systems menu.. Where would I find it?
[08:58] <eloque> k peep take care . thanks Novell gonna go try to figure out whats up
[08:58] <eloque> what do i use to start KDE from console? just X?
[08:58] <eloque> or something else?
[08:58] <TeraDyne> sven: That menu is for GNOME. You can run the program from the terminal by using "sudo restricted-manager"
[08:58] <TeraDyne> eloque: "sudo kdm"
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[08:59] <Novell> eloque: startkde
[08:59] <eloque> thanks
[08:59] <eloque> peace
[08:59] <vzduch> 'startkde' never worked for me, 'startx' did
[08:59] <TeraDyne> insmod, Novell : I've never gotten that command to work.
[08:59] <ciacon> TeraDyne: I replaced the i just simply had overwritten the login.scr with cmd.exe -> 10 minute wait -> explorer [return] .... fairly streight forward =)...
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[08:59] <sven> TeraDyne: thanks!
[09:02] <NickPresta> I just installed the kicker-kickoff package as I wanted to try kickoff. All is well, however, my kmenu icon changed and it's now larger and ugly. Any idea how to change this icon?
[09:02] <TeraDyne> ciacon: I did it back when they were using a boot-time menu, so I didn't have such an easy time doing it. But putting in their first initials turned out to be the pass. XD
[09:02] <TeraDyne> sven no problem
[09:02] <TeraDyne> insmod: "startkde" always gives a "Cannot connect to X Server" error.
[09:03] <difeleva> ey
[09:03] <difeleva> guys
[09:04] <ciacon> TeraDyne: do you have a clue what has happend to my X?? I start a new session which is then placed on strg-alt-f9 ???... really odd - a restart does not change anything... where is my (i think its called) vts8 gone to??
[09:04] <difeleva> ey guys I just installed beryl manager and xgl and the windows borders are not woking correctly but the cube and other stuffs are working right...can u help me plz?
[09:05] <TeraDyne> !beryl | difeleva
[09:05] <ubotu> difeleva: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <mansingh> i face some problem while installing scratchbox, can somebody please help
[09:06] <TeraDyne> ciacon: unfourtunately, I can't help there. I have limited knowledge when it comes to the X server.
[09:06] <TeraDyne> mansingh: scratchbox? Never heard of it.
[09:06] <mansingh> it says Couldn't find package scratchbox
[09:06] <TeraDyne> !find scratchbox
[09:06] <vzduch> ROOT DETECTED!
[09:06] <ubotu> Package/file scratchbox does not exist in feisty
[09:07] <daquino> how do i go about getting my usb head set to work ?
[09:07] <mansingh> i have added the package location in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <ciacon> TeraDyne: but I was right in naming it vts8?
[09:08] <TeraDyne> ciacon: like I said, I have limited knowledge on the X server, so I don't know.
[09:08] <ciacon> TeraDyne: np - thanks anyway
[09:08] <louie_> hey there
[09:08] <louie_> i'm having some problems in trying to compile kde4
[09:08] <ciacon> gi louie_
[09:08] <louie_> can someone help me?
[09:09] <louie_> hey ciacon
[09:09] <ciacon> can anyone tell me why, when I start a new session, it originally was on the "F8" key and now is on the "F9"???
[09:10] <TeraDyne> louie_: can you be more specific?
[09:10] <lovely> !pastebin
[09:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <louie_> i'm following this tutorial: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment
[09:10] <louie_> and i've gotten to the part about compiling the qt framework
[09:10] <louie_> I went through the whole thing, but then at the end when i test run assistant
[09:11] <louie_> it gives me an error saying how it cant open a network socket
[09:11] <louie_> and has a deadlock
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  why not install kde4 from the repos?
[09:12] <louie_> cuz i'm trying to use it for devel and i dont actually want to use it as my main thing
[09:13] <jhutchins_lt> louie_: #kde might be more helpful.
[09:14] <louie_> thx jhuthins
[09:14] <louie_> jhukchins*
[09:14] <louie_> damn it...switching between qwerty and dvorak sucks
[09:14] <louie_> haha
[09:16] <nate137> jhutchins doesnt stand for justin hutchins does it?
[09:16] <moshea> hi guys ... I'm getting a JRE bin file, what app should I use to install the bin ?
[09:17] <eloque> sup ppl
[09:17] <eloque> Novell... it's syaing the disk is full
[09:17] <eloque> i am sur eits my trash directiry
[09:17] <eloque> from when i was trying to delete stuff from another drive
[09:17] <vzduch> moshea: you don't.. except you have a problem w/ the Java distributions from the repo
[09:17] <TeraDyne> moshea: are you trying to install Java or what?
[09:17] <eloque> cuz when i got the errors... i wasnt downloading anything to my partition that kubuntu is on
[09:18] <moshea> TeraDyne: yeah, Java stopped working in Konq (and Firefox I think) after an upgrade to Feisty
[09:18] <eloque> i was trying to delete stuff from a fat32 partition
[09:18] <moshea> TeraDyne: so right now, FF has pointed me to a bin file from Sun ...
[09:18] <Graham> Hey, I've got an ATi Radeon 9800XT pro running with the fglrx driver, but it's using mesa for 3d rendering... how can I fix that?
[09:18] <TeraDyne> !java | moshea
[09:18] <ubotu> moshea: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:18] <moshea> TeraDyne: and when I download it, I'm asked if I want to save or "open with ..."
[09:19] <level1> Hi, my kicker has been randomly crashing.  I can run it again from the console and it'll run fine for a little while, but eventually it'll crash again.  I've tried deleting kickerrc and no improvement.  What should I do?
[09:19] <moshea> ubotu: not the java6 ?
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not the java6 ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <vzduch> eloque: look in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[09:19] <eloque> how can i delete stuff from console?
[09:19] <TeraDyne> moshea: that's a bot. You can install JRE6 as well. Either one should work.
[09:19] <moshea> TeraDyne: can I install Java6 ?
[09:19] <eloque> cuz kde wont syaty
[09:19] <moshea> ok
[09:20] <eloque> also i remember something bout it telling me to look in /root/ something /trash
[09:20] <eloque> before i restarted (after the issue)
[09:20] <vzduch> eloque: rm -f (or in the case of directories rm -rf) /path/to/filename(s)
[09:20] <vzduch> you can use wildcards
[09:21] <eloque> k
[09:21] <TeraDyne> eloque: your KDE trash is "~/.local./Trash/"
[09:21] <vzduch> TeraDyne: I already told him :)
[09:21] <eloque> is there a folder with trash files in /root?
[09:21] <TeraDyne> vzduch: ok
[09:21] <moshea> TeraDyne: "couldn't find package sun-java5-bin" ... I guess I don't have the right entries in my sources list
[09:22] <vzduch> eloque: I don't have anything in /root
[09:22] <eloque> i'll go check and then come back thanks
[09:22] <TeraDyne> !find sun-java6-jre > TeraDyne
[09:22] <vzduch> eloque: why no stay here and check? :)
[09:22] <eloque> i am in th elive cd right now
[09:22] <eloque> gonna have to reboot into the installed kubuntu
[09:22] <TeraDyne> moshea: try installing the "sun-java6-jre" package
[09:23] <lovely> can someone help me? I am in the middle of upgrading to fiesty and am having troubles, please see  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29031/    I am following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29031/
[09:23] <eloque> unless there is some other way?
[09:23] <fssssssssssh> whats DEVFS ?
[09:23] <vzduch> eloque: usually you can mount your hdd(s) in the live CD
[09:23] <fssssssssssh> or better question, how do i find out if i have it ?
[09:24] <eloque> how do i mount my kubuntu partition? and would i be able to browse it?
[09:24] <eloque> df -h isnt showing any of my local drives
[09:24] <vzduch> lovely: typo
[09:24] <vzduch> s/fiesty/feisty/
[09:24] <moshea> TeraDyne: I guess that means in Adept or Synaptic ... ok. I'll see
[09:25] <TeraDyne> moshea: yes. Sorry about not being more clear.
[09:25] <Graham> Hey, I've got an ATi Radeon 9800XT pro running with the fglrx driver, but it's using mesa for 3d rendering... how can I fix that? I need 3d acceleration for openGL to work.
[09:25] <lovely> vzduch: which one?
[09:25] <eloque> i remember in dapper's live cd it would mount the drives
[09:25] <eloque> but now in feisty it wont
[09:26] <vzduch> lovely: look through your sources.list.. looks like about all of them
[09:27] <eloque> ok
[09:27] <eloque> i enabled it
[09:27] <eloque> thru the system admin menu
[09:27] <sweettooth> hi there, does anyone know how to add the link of a remote directory(home server) to amarok's collection in kubuntu?
[09:28] <lovely> vzduch: yes, but how do I fix it? I was following http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/05/steps-to-upgrading-your-ubuntu-machine-ubuntu-6061-610/  and merley usaed vim to replace edgy with fiesty
[09:28] <vzduch> lovely: you should have replaced edgy w/ feisty
[09:28] <moshea> TeraDyne: no, it's cool, I got you. Except that there's no such package listed on my machine. I must be missing a source
[09:28] <eloque> ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ wont show anything in it
[09:29] <TeraDyne> !info sun-java6-jre
[09:29] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6176 kB, installed size 14148 kB
[09:29] <moshea> TeraDyne: I read something about "Metaverse"
[09:29] <vzduch> lovely: it can't be that hard to transfer the same to other names :)
[09:29] <vzduch> lovely: so now replace fiesty by feisty
[09:29] <TeraDyne> moshea: it's in the multiverse repository.
[09:29] <TeraDyne> !multiverse | moshea
[09:29] <moshea> right, I'll go see
[09:29] <ubotu> moshea: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:29] <moshea> TeraDyne: star !
[09:30] <lovely> vzduch: am I that off today??!!??
[09:30] <Ayabara> is "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/one hfsplus rw,noauto,users 0 0 " in /etc/fstab ok if I want to mount an hfsplus formatted, external usbdrive in kubuntu?
[09:30] <eloque> any ideas vzduch? ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ seems empty
[09:31] <lovely> vzduch:  yes. aparently I am, thanks
[09:31] <vzduch> lovely: you're welcome
[09:31] <vzduch> eloque: sorry, no further idea
[09:32] <eloque> is there any place that i can find out if there ar eany large files?
[09:32] <eloque> i cant imagine it would just get filled while being idle
[09:32] <eloque> and it only happened after i tried to delete a bunch of huge files
[09:33] <vzduch> !info sauerbraten
[09:33] <ubotu> Package sauerbraten does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:34] <level1> Hi, I installed a few things from a debian repository, and now apt-get refuses to do anything until I run apt-get -f install (no args)... apt-get -f install wants to remove kubuntu desktop, what do I do?
[09:35] <eloque> hmm there is a fodler call .local in /root
[09:35] <slim> I've just installed Kubuntu, and haven't gotten the update icon.
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> eloque: did you delete the files as root?
[09:35] <slim> Why haven't I gotten the update icon?
[09:35] <level1> slim: how long has it been?
[09:35] <eloque> there was nothing in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[09:36] <Skyrail> Slim just try apt-get update
[09:36] <lovely> slim: have you tried using adept?
[09:36] <slim> It's been about 20 minutes.
[09:37] <eloque> Daisuke_Ido: u mean like sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[09:37] <eloque> ?
[09:37] <slim> There it goes. I did this last time I installed Kubuntu.
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[09:38] <vzduch> level1: looks like you're screwed.. don't use Debian repos in *buntu
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> when you originally deleted the big files
[09:39] <eloque> also is there anyway to view .xsession-errors ? its got a padlock on it
[09:39] <level1> vzduch: well, can you just help me fix it?
[09:39] <eloque> Daisuke i sudo's into Konqueror and used it
[09:39] <eloque> Move to Trash
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you can safely remove it
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> eloque: that's why
[09:39] <eloque> i thought so
[09:39] <vzduch> level1: I suppose the easiest way would be to manually deinstall w/ dpkg -r
[09:39] <eloque> Trash kept saying it couldnt delte
[09:39] <eloque> drive full
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo rm -rf /root/whateverthepathtotrashis/*
[09:39] <eloque> what can i do?
[09:40] <eloque> can i do that from here?
[09:40] <eloque> from th elive cd?
[09:40] <eloque> or go back and login to console?
[09:40] <vzduch> eloque: you can from the CD if you have the drive mounted
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> if you can get to your hdd, you may be able to go in and delete it.
[09:41] <eloque> i mounted the drive
[09:41] <eloque> maybe i mounted it incorrectly
[09:41] <eloque> in the /root dir
[09:41] <eloque> i cant get into the /.local dir
[09:42] <vzduch> eloque: where did you mount it?
[09:42] <raghu> is it possible to install windows on a computer with llinux already installed in it
[09:42] <raghu> on a different partiion
[09:42] <vzduch> lol
[09:42] <raghu> dualboot
[09:42] <eloque> in /media/sda5
[09:42] <raheem> raghu.. yes
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> raghu: windows doesn't like that
[09:42] <level1> how can i force dpkg to remove a package without removing a package that depends on it?
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> windows first then linux
[09:42] <eloque> dont anger windows
[09:42] <vzduch> eloque: /media/sda5/root/, /media/sda5/home/$yourUserName/.local/
[09:43] <raghu> lol
[09:43] <level1> ie, kubuntu desktop depends on k3b, but I want to remove and reinstall k3b
[09:43] <raghu> but is it possible to install windows after linux
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> level1: kubuntu-desktop is a META PACKAGE, as i already said
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you can safely remove it :D
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it's okay
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing's going to explode on you
[09:43] <raghu> k
[09:44] <raheem> @raghu. it is possible, but your windows installation screws up the boot loader
[09:44] <eloque> errr vzduch?
[09:44] <vzduch> eloque: the paths you should be looking at
[09:44] <Daisuke_Ido> raheem: not to mention windows requires the first partition of the first hdd
[09:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and if linux is there...
[09:45] <eloque> vzduch: /media/sda5/root/. ?
[09:45] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: I believe it doesn't _require_ hda1.. there's the option in the Windows installer to install to other partitions
[09:45] <raheem> vzduch.. you are right
[09:45] <vzduch> eloque: what's in /media/sda5/root/?
[09:46] <eloque> its all locked
[09:46] <raheem> the only problem i faced last time was, i had to re-configure grub..
[09:46] <eloque> it wont show me passed root
[09:46] <vzduch> eloque: you should be able to view it as root
[09:46] <raheem> i lost there, then i simply used ntldr to boot to kubuntu :D
[09:47] <eloque> i can only see that there is a folder called .local
[09:47] <vzduch> raheem: yes, you can do that
[09:47] <vzduch> eloque: inside root/?
[09:47] <raheem> i am working like that right ...just learning .
[09:48] <eloque> one sec vzduch
[09:48] <eloque> it says i dont have enough permission to view it
[09:49] <eloque> when i try to open .local in /root
[09:49] <vzduch> eloque: I don't know Elive.. you should either log in as root and have a look inside there or use sudo for that
[09:50] <eloque> should i go back into the regular kubuntu and get out of the live cd?
[09:50] <soc> does someone know when there will be a kde4 alpha 2 build on kubuntu.org?
[09:51] <spitwise> can i take an .iso and use it to create a bootable usb stick?
[09:51] <vzduch> hmm, strange.. I can see something in my /root/ w/ Krusader, but not w/ ls
[09:51] <eloque> same here
[09:51] <eloque> sudo rm -rf /media/sda5/root/.local/shared/Trash/*
[09:51] <eloque> would this be right?
[09:51] <Mr_Sonoma> vzduch: use ls -a
[09:52] <eloque> Mr_Sonoma: I just used what u said
[09:52] <eloque> it showed me the .local dir
[09:52] <eloque> but how can i see past it?
[09:52] <spitwise> ls -a .local/
[09:53] <vzduch> ah, I forgot the -a option existed ;)
[09:53] <eloque> duh my stupidity
[09:53] <eloque> i am such a retard thanks spitwise
[09:53] <eloque> i just found all those files
[09:53] <spitwise> no worries
[09:53] <vzduch> eloque: there you go :)
[09:54] <Mr_Sonoma> vzduch: hehehehehehehe we all forget simple stuff from time to time
[09:54] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: yea :)
[09:54] <raheem> right.. you are
[09:54] <eloque> wow
[09:54] <eloque> ther eis even old stuff
[09:54] <eloque> that i deleted liek a day ago
[09:54] <eloque> now how do i delete all that crap
[09:54] <eloque> ?
[09:54] <spitwise> _all_ of it?
[09:54] <eloque> yea
[09:54] <eloque> its a lot
[09:55] <spitwise> sudo rm -rf .local/*
[09:55] <eloque> what command can i use to see the size of the Trash folder?
[09:55] <spitwise> ls -la
[09:55] <spitwise> err
[09:55] <eloque> yea that aint work
[09:55] <eloque> lol
[09:55] <Mr_Sonoma> wouldnt you want to remove .local/trash/ instead of all of .local?
[09:55] <eloque> it shows me individual sizes
[09:55] <spitwise> ls -lha shows human readable
[09:55] <spitwise> oh of the dir?
[09:56] <eloque> yea
[09:56] <spitwise> hmm good q
[09:56] <eloque> its ok
[09:56] <Lynoure> eloque: du -sh  shows the total in humanreadable form
[09:56] <eloque> human readable did the trick
[09:56] <Lynoure> for the directory and its subdirectories, that is.
[09:56] <eloque> 2.4 freakin gigs
[09:57] <eloque> my dumb self using sudo Konqueror and then deleting stuff
[09:57] <raheem> wow..
[09:57] <Mr_Sonoma> hey thats like better than 10% of my hard disk *grin*
[09:57] <eloque> yea
[09:57] <eloque> its off of other dirves too
[09:57] <eloque> but because of my dumb self it came back into the kubuntu partition
[09:57] <Mr_Sonoma> when i delete something using the gui i imediately empty the trash can
[09:58] <eloque> i tried that
[09:58] <eloque> but this thing has been holding things for a few days
[09:58] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: when I delete something it doesn't even go into the trash :)
[09:58] <Mr_Sonoma> yea yea yea
[09:58] <spitwise> i like rm, it sends them to the black hole of death ;)
[09:58] <Mr_Sonoma> i like rm too
[09:59] <vzduch> you can also adjust Konq to show a direct Delete option
[09:59] <eloque>  sudo rm -rf /media/sda5/root/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[09:59] <Mr_Sonoma> but sometimes im already in the gui and well......ya know
[09:59] <spitwise> ok bbiab, see if i made another non-bootable coaster
[09:59] <eloque> i just did that
[09:59] <eloque> but it stays the same
[09:59] <eloque> still 2.4G
[09:59] <Mr_Sonoma> what stays the same?
[09:59] <eloque> the files aint budgin
[09:59] <Mr_Sonoma> the size of the trash directory?
[09:59] <eloque> yea
[09:59] <eloque> he stuff in it
[09:59] <spitwise> cd /media/sda5/root/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[10:00] <spitwise> and then do an ls -a
[10:00] <spitwise> maybe the pasth is wrong?
[10:00] <spitwise> path even
[10:00] <eloque> naw
[10:00] <spitwise> heh
[10:00] <spitwise> ok brb
[10:00] <eloque> just using the same thing i used to do the ls -a
[10:00] <eloque> i cant cd into it
[10:00] <eloque> permission denied
[10:01] <eloque> oh well
[10:01] <eloque> gonna go log in normally
[10:01] <eloque> and delete it
[10:01] <eloque> thanks peeps
[10:01] <eloque> hope it works
[10:01] <eloque> i remember having set a password for root
[10:01] <eloque> but when i tried to login to console as root it wont accept
[10:01] <nirty22> has anyone had any problems setting up printer sharing in the new feisty?
[10:01] <vzduch> eloque: why not?
[10:02] <vzduch> eloque: open the console, then type 'su --login'
[10:02] <phobiac> I set up ndiswrapper recently and now the only way to get my wireless card up and running is to run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper after logging in
[10:02] <phobiac> How can I do this automatically?
[10:02] <eloque> i dunno why it wants accepting it
[10:03] <eloque> k vzduch
[10:03] <eloque> ill try and see what i can do
[10:03] <eloque> thanks a lot
[10:03] <eloque> bbiab i guess
[10:03] <eloque> peace
[10:03] <Mr_Sonoma> phobiac why not put that command into the autostart thing under session manager?
[10:04] <phobiac> It has to run as root and this is set up for my little brother, who is six.
[10:04] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmm
[10:04] <Mr_Sonoma> so much for that thought.....sorry man i dont run a wireless card so that was my one off hand shot
[10:05] <phobiac> Nah, it's okay. Any suggestions are appreciated.
[10:05] <vzduch> phobiac: why would it _have_ to run as root?
[10:05] <vzduch> don't have wifi either
[10:06] <TeraDyne> phobiac: open the "/etc/modules" file as root and add "ndiswrapper" to the list. It'll have to be on it's own line.
[10:06] <TeraDyne> phobiac: that will load ndiswrapper on boot.
[10:06] <phobiac> vzduck: I don't think modprobe works without root
[10:06] <brian__> how can i get kmobile tools on kubuntu
[10:07] <phobiac> TeraDyne: Thank you very much, I'll try that
[10:07] <brian__> i dont find it in the package manager
[10:07] <TeraDyne> vzduch: you have to run modprobe as root for ndiswrapper.
[10:07] <vzduch> never heard of
[10:07] <vzduch> TeraDyne: you always have to run modprobe as root, I know :)
[10:07] <vzduch> didn't think about it being a kernel module
[10:07] <rockets> Ever since I switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, I seem to be getting a lot more crashes. Not system crashes, just kde crashes like konversation, kopete, and worst of all kwin crashes a lot. THis never happened under Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[10:08] <bldzr> Sounds weird :\
[10:08] <TeraDyne> vzduch:  ah. ok. I use a laptop with a broadcom wireless card that doesn't work with bcm43xx, so I know how to set it up by heart now.
[10:08] <flake> when I do a 'who -a', I get a system boot, run-level2, logins tty5-tty1-tty6-etc, my user name ? :0 and then pts/1 and pts/3 term=0 exit=2.. what does the pts and term mean
[10:09] <bldzr> Check logs?
[10:09] <brian__> rockets, it must be something besides kde because it works for me....
[10:09] <brian__> your talking about gnome or kde, you can have both on the pc
[10:10] <brian__> and choose which one to use
[10:10] <Kubuntu> I just recieved the free cd for fiesty today, and the desktop doesn't fit on my screen
[10:10] <Kubuntu> How do I fix this?
[10:10] <rockets> brian__: I realize that. But literally a fresh install of kubuntu and kde apps crash randomly for me.
[10:10] <rockets> the system itself doesnt crash
[10:10] <brian__> the panning your talking about can be fixed in your xorg.conf file.  just set the resolution to what you want.,
[10:10] <rockets> I'm getting the feeling that kde isnt as stable as gnome
[10:11] <brian__> kubuntu:  or try ctrl + alt +  "+"
[10:11] <TeraDyne> rockets: It is for me.
[10:11] <Kubuntu> K
[10:11] <raheem> Kubuntu.. System Settings > Monotor & Display..
[10:11] <brian__> that will cycle through  your resolutions
[10:11] <raheem> try that .. may be ;)
[10:11] <brian__> did you do updates?
[10:12] <Kubuntu> Im in the livecd mode
[10:12] <TeraDyne> rockets: I'm not entirely sure why you'd be having a lot of problems. To be honest, though, the only problem I have is Konqueror crashing randomly when a flash movie has been loaded recently.
[10:12] <brian__> rockets, they both probally have their problems.
[10:12] <Kubuntu> But I dont want to install this if  it wont work
[10:12] <brian__> and 4.0 is comming out which will have a whole new set of problems
[10:13] <Kubuntu> I'll screen shot it
[10:13] <brian__> what frontend to i use for the package manager
[10:13] <Mr_Sonoma> Kubuntu:  what video card are you running?
[10:14] <Kubuntu> i dont run one
[10:14] <Mr_Sonoma> Adept for KDE brian__
[10:14] <brian__> do you mean adept_installer
[10:14] <raheem> Kubuntu.. what kind of Video Card your system has ?
[10:14] <Mr_Sonoma> what are you wanting to do brian
[10:14] <Kubuntu> I dont have a video card
[10:15] <Kubuntu> Or is it just in the livecd this is a problem?
[10:15] <brian__> see the big list of things to install,,
[10:15] <brian__> i am already installed
[10:15] <brian__> im looking for kmobile tools
[10:15] <raheem> Kubuntu did you try Ctrl Alt + ?
[10:15] <Kubuntu> Yeah
[10:15] <Kubuntu> it still doesn't do anything
[10:15] <raheem> and ?
[10:15] <Mr_Sonoma> yes use the add/remove programs section under your kmenu to see what programs are avail.
[10:15] <Mr_Sonoma> that will run Adept-installer
[10:15] <raheem> try Ctrl Alt -
[10:16] <brian__> kubuntu, modify your xorg.conf file?
[10:16] <brian__> mr_sonoma, my list is very small
[10:16] <Kubuntu> I'llt ry
[10:16] <Mr_Sonoma> do this brian
[10:16] <Mr_Sonoma> open up adept under the kmenu > system > adept
[10:16] <_redbluefish> Hi,  I have a new usb hd,  I boot from kubuntu live, then installed to the new usb hard drive.   on reboot I got a grub error.  It seems the install fooled with the mbr on my hda1 windows partition.
[10:16] <phobiac> TeraDyne: Thank you again for your help, that seems to have worked.
[10:16] <Mr_Sonoma> it will ask for your password
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> when it comes up in the upper left corner click Adept
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> then manage repositories
[10:17] <NickPresta> Any idea how to move Kickoff tabs to the top as opposed to the bottom?
[10:17] <_redbluefish> So, I booted with xp cd and fixboot fixmbr.  Now windows boots fine.
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> make sure that at the bottom of that box where it says "download from" that the ubuntu main server is selected.
[10:17] <_redbluefish> So, how can I boot that newly installed kubuntu on the usb hd?
[10:18] <Kubuntu> Should I install it and see what happens? Since this is probabbly just an error in the LiveCD
[10:18] <raheem> Kubuntu ... i never had such an issue.. did at least 5 installations...
[10:19] <Uranellus> hey, I'm using latest stable kubuntu and would like to use beagle to search through my thunderbird mails .. now I read on the bealge page that the thunderbird part is not anymore compiled by default .. does this affect ubuntu's version of beagle as well? or is there (as there is in opensuse) a seperate package to ship beagle-thunderbird support?
[10:19] <raheem> but again it depends on your graphic card
[10:21] <brian__> mr_sonoma, your right, my repositorys were not synced up...
[10:21] <brian__> i h ave a nice list now
[10:22] <brian__> thanks
[10:22] <Kubuntu> My graphics card is an mga
[10:22] <_redbluefish> Do I need a /boot partition on the usb drive?
[10:22] <Mr_Sonoma> i ran into that when i installed fiesty for the first time
[10:23] <Kubuntu> mga?
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> drove me crazy until i realized that it had selected the United States server instead of the ubuntu main server
[10:23] <Ryaren> hi
[10:23] <eloque> sup people
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> changed that and went from 13,000 packages showing to what 100,000 or something like that
[10:23] <eloque> got back into my kde
[10:23] <eloque> but its acting super homo
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> was a huge jump
[10:24] <eloque> when i logged in it goes black and then opens the regular kde but it has no icons on desktop and no panel just a terminal window
[10:24] <Kubuntu> raheem: Matrox millennium G200
[10:24] <Mr_Sonoma> i had that issue with a S3 savige ix card
[10:24] <Mr_Sonoma> was unsupported win windows xp and ubuntu
[10:24] <Mr_Sonoma> bought a nvidia and havent had a problem since.
[10:24] <Flosoft> hi
[10:25] <Kubuntu> Ah
[10:25] <Flosoft> I want to use Stage6
[10:25] <eloque> i tried typing startkde and then it started looking normal loading up kde but then went back to login screen and now i am back with this weird situation
[10:25] <Flosoft> I have got w64codecs and mplayer installed
[10:25] <Ryaren> Somebody can see what is wrong in this xorg.conf file? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29037/plain/    The log said screen not detected!!
[10:25] <Kubuntu> So it's probably my Matrox Millennium G200 that is the problem
[10:25] <Flosoft> but how do I assign .divx files to mplayer?
[10:25] <eloque> any ideas ppl?
[10:25] <Kubuntu> I'll change the card in settings and see what happens
[10:25] <Mr_Sonoma> Kubuntu: is that your video card?
[10:25] <eloque> also my windows dont have any boarders and i cant minimize or maximize them
[10:25] <Kubuntu> Yes
[10:26] <Kubuntu> I use an mga matrox millennium G200 video card
[10:26] <Mr_Sonoma> ok hold on let me google
[10:26] <eloque> and i cant move my windows either
[10:26] <banksey> Emmm guys, Problem. You know the way Windows uses ASCII (Alt+0214) How do you use it on Linux :D
[10:26] <eloque> its just stuck
[10:26] <andreas_> german
[10:27] <andreas_> !german
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:27] <eloque> anybody?
[10:28] <_redbluefish> I did grub find /grub/stage1 and I go (hd3,0)
[10:29] <_redbluefish> fdisk -l ->  I want to boot the install on /dev/sdd1
[10:29] <NickPresta> _redbluefish, you can try, in grub: root (hd0,3) and then setup (hd0)
[10:29] <eloque> vzduch, sorry to msg u but i thought u might'v been afk
[10:29] <eloque> i deleted that bunch of files
[10:30] <eloque> and i started up kubuntu and now kde is acting weird
[10:30] <eloque> it brings me to the login screen and when i log in
[10:30] <vzduch> no idea w/ that, sorry
[10:30] <eloque> it shows the default kde background and a terminal window
[10:31] <brian__> how do i know what device name is for my internal laptop bluetooth
[10:31] <eloque> i type xchat int he terminal to open this client but it has no window frames and i cant move the windows
[10:31] <banksey> !ascii
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ascii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <brian__> im trying to use kmobiletools
[10:31] <eloque> is it possible kde tried to resume some old session?
[10:31] <_redbluefish> What is the meaning between the two programs fdisk -l vs grub (i.e. hdx,y    vs dev/sdxy) hope that makes sense
[10:31] <eloque> how do i start a fresh new session anybody?
[10:32] <mo0osah> eloque: go to system settings > advanced tab > session manager
[10:32] <eloque> mo0osah,  i cant even get to th epanel
[10:32] <eloque> just a terminal window
[10:32] <eloque> and thats it
[10:32] <eloque> its crazy
[10:33] <eloque> is there a way to it from the terminal?
[10:33] <raheem> i guess the your kde is screwed up.. i have no idea how to fix it..:(
[10:33] <eloque> the weird thing is none of the programs that i opened have window borders
[10:33] <mo0osah> umm... can you open Kcontrol?
[10:33] <eloque> i cant even do anything bout it
[10:34] <eloque> command not found
[10:34] <eloque> raheem i types startkde in the terminal
[10:34] <eloque> and it started like it normally does
[10:34] <eloque> but then went black screen and back to login window
[10:34] <raheem> then it goes back..
[10:34] <eloque> and back from the beginning
[10:34] <mo0osah> startkde?  try doing startx
[10:35] <raheem> yes. i did experience it once..with fedora actually..
[10:35] <eloque> k i did it
[10:35] <eloque> someting bout user not authorized
[10:35] <brian__> what is the device name for a bluetooth device?
[10:35] <Ze_M> where is possible to see kubuntu source packages?
[10:35] <eloque> but i cant see everything it said cuz the xchat indow is over it
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo startx
[10:35] <eloque> and i can tmove it
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Ze_M: you can grab them from apt
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get source <package>
[10:36] <eloque> fatal server error
[10:36] <eloque> server is already active
[10:36] <Ze_M> Admiral_Chicago: im asking for a www link
[10:36] <eloque> something something something
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> eloque: let me grab you a link...
[10:36] <eloque> looks like my kde is screwed
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Ze_M: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <eloque> k
[10:36] <Ze_M> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> not really
[10:36] <waylandbill> eloque: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:36] <waylandbill> then start.
[10:37] <eloque> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:37] <eloque> ?
[10:37] <eloque> like that?
[10:37] <yeniklasor> What is Kubuntu's volume manager? Like system tray app
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> no. just the firt comant
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Kmix yeniklasor
[10:37] <yeniklasor> OK thanks
[10:37] <Mr_Sonoma> Kubuntu:  seems to me from what i found on google that you may be missing your video driver. what file exactly you need i'm unclear on and i dont have a system with that card to test with. unless ofcourse its one of the packages i see when searching for mga in adept
[10:38] <Kubuntu> Ok
[10:39] <Mr_Sonoma> unless there's someone else here with experiance on video problems i'd suggest asking the folks in #beryl
[10:39] <Mr_Sonoma> about it. they work on graphics issues a lot
[10:39] <Mr_Sonoma> and may know exactly what you need
[10:40] <Kubuntu> OOk
[10:40] <Kubuntu> Well, I know I should probably get a video card that's not 9 years old lol
[10:41] <raheem> hehe..
[10:41] <raheem> order two.. i am stuck with Sis.. :D
[10:41] <Kubuntu> :)
[10:41] <eloque> ok
[10:41] <eloque> well that did NOT work
[10:42] <ubuntu____> hai everyone
[10:42] <waylandbill> Kubuntu: they are rather inexpensive especially if you're not looking for 3d gaming support.
[10:42] <ubuntu_> HI
[10:42] <Kubuntu> K
[10:42] <ubuntu____> i saw that you can't play the same games as ubuntu:( is that really so?
[10:42] <waylandbill> eloque: the desktop didn't come back up?
[10:42] <eloque> nope
[10:42] <eloque> when i stype what u said
[10:42] <eloque> it showed the kubuntu logo
[10:42] <eloque> liek when booting up or shutting down
[10:43] <eloque> then just black screen
[10:43] <eloque> with a cursor blinking
[10:43] <Mr_Sonoma> yes i bought my nvidia from wal-mart just 6 months ago for under $20 usd
[10:43] <Kubuntu> Hmm
[10:43] <waylandbill> then you could have done ctrl-alt-f1 to get tty1 console at that point.
[10:43] <Kubuntu> Not bad
[10:43] <eloque> so i shut down cold
[10:43] <waylandbill> unless it just hung
[10:43] <eloque> hmm
[10:43] <eloque> i dunno
[10:43] <eloque> its wierd
[10:43] <eloque> when i typed startkde
[10:43] <ubuntu____> #ubuntu
[10:43] <eloque> it acted normal for a sec
[10:43] <eloque> then back to login screen
[10:44] <eloque> is my kde broken?
[10:44] <waylandbill> you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are errors?
[10:44] <eloque> is it stuck between sessions?
[10:44] <ubuntu____> there are a lot of users in this room wow
[10:44] <eloque> well i didn't know to do that anyways
[10:44] <eloque> brb
[10:44] <waylandbill> eloque: the X display comes up, but you can't get into kde?
[10:45] <eloque> yea i guess
[10:45] <ubuntu____> does someone has wireless problems?
[10:45] <eloque> i get the default kde desktop background
[10:45] <waylandbill> then that log won't help. :-)
[10:45] <eloque> and a terminal window
[10:45] <eloque> when i type startkde
[10:45] <Kubuntu> Well thanks for all your help. :)
[10:45] <eloque> it does liek normal showing th edifferent icons saying it is loading up
[10:45] <eloque> then black screen and back to login screen
[10:45] <waylandbill> eloque: you don't start kde via kdm?
[10:45] <Kubuntu> I see it is not my card that is a problem, but a bug in the program xserver-xorg-video-mga that wont allow it to display properly
[10:46] <Kubuntu> I'll get a newer card
[10:46] <eloque> i dunno what that means bill
[10:46] <eloque> i normally just start up my lappie and everything is fine
[10:46] <eloque> i had a problem that i just fix
[10:46] <eloque> fixed*
[10:46] <eloque> and since then it just did this
[10:46] <eloque> i had deleted some files from a mounted drive and it filled my kubuntu partition to the brim
[10:46] <eloque> so then kde wouldnt load
[10:47] <waylandbill> kdm is the default display manager. it brings up kde itself. you can't do startkde if kdm is actually running kde at that time, or it will complain about the display being in use.
[10:47] <Mr_Sonoma> oh wait
[10:47] <eloque> so when i deleted all those files
[10:47] <eloque> from the console
[10:47] <Mr_Sonoma> when you deleted the trash directory did you just delete trash or all of .local???
[10:47] <eloque> well i tried deleteting like this .../share/Trash/files/*
[10:47] <eloque> but it didnt work
[10:48] <eloque> so i did this
[10:48] <waylandbill> eloque: sounds like one of the files in ~/.kde is messed. you could try renaming that directory and see if you can get a kde session. That would give a closer indication of the problem.
[10:48] <nivekc1> how do i change my theme in kubuntu?
[10:48] <eloque> rm -rf .../share/Trash/files
[10:48] <eloque> then i mkdir'ed the files folder again
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !theme > nivekc1
[10:48] <Darkrift> is there a command to rescan usb devices?
[10:48] <eloque> to compensate
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> nivekc1: look at that message the bot sent you
[10:48] <Mr_Sonoma> ok now what does ls -a ..../share/ show?
[10:49] <Mr_Sonoma> ok now what does ls -a ..../share/Trash/ show?
[10:50] <eloque> two folders
[10:50] <eloque> files and info
[10:50] <Sam234> I use kmenuedit to configure my kmenu and when I click save it dosent change my menu. What reasons could cause this?
[10:50] <eloque> i am sure that when i deleted that folder it must have had something important in it or sumthin
[10:50] <eloque> i dunno
[10:51] <eloque> what can i do?
[10:51] <eloque> is this a session issue?
[10:51] <Sam234> I restart kde and it still isn't changed
[10:51] <eloque> or something i must reinstall?
[10:51] <moonshine> is there an update manager for kubuntu?
[10:51] <Sam234> ill try reinstalling kmenuedit
[10:51] <Darkrift> anyone?
[10:51] <Sam234> Moonshine adept_updator
[10:51] <Darkrift> can you "kill" a usb device?
[10:51] <moonshine> tnx:)
[10:51] <Darkrift> force it to disconnect and reconnect?
[10:52] <eloque> Darkrift, if u have a big enough gun yea
[10:52] <Darkrift> lol
[10:52] <Darkrift> i deserved that
[10:52] <raheem> hehehe
[10:52] <eloque> cant u umount?
[10:52] <Darkrift> heres the prob
[10:52] <Darkrift> i had a vm open
[10:52] <eloque> sorry Darkrift  my KDE is homosexual and not working
[10:52] <Darkrift> and i had my pocket pc connected
[10:52] <eloque> so I am a bit grumpy
[10:52] <Darkrift> then i power3ed it down and now the usb isnt detected
[10:53] <Darkrift> even by plugging it in and unplugging
[10:53] <Darkrift> lsusb nor dmesg show it
[10:53] <grul> is there any hotkey to change tabs in konsole except shift + left/right?
[10:54] <Sam234> if I have a 190gb hdd and a 5gb root partition on the first part and a 185gb /home partition on the rest is it possible to increase my root partition to 10gb and my /home partition decreased to 180gb?
[10:54] <Darkrift> gparted
[10:54] <Darkrift> will do it
[10:55] <Darkrift> as long as they arent locked or have problems (like mine do)
[10:55] <Darkrift> lol
[10:55] <Sam234> mine are tolo
[10:55] <Sam234> I can resize it but not move it
[10:55] <Darkrift> defrag first
[10:55] <Sam234> Darkrift they are both ext3
[10:55] <Darkrift> oh yeah
[10:56] <Sam234> only ntfs and fat partitions need defragging
[10:56] <Darkrift> mine are ntfs, and gparted is having probs and i think its lack of defgrag
[10:56] <Sam234> could be
[10:56] <Sam234> allways defrag a windows ntfs partition before altering it
[10:56] <Darkrift> is there a linux way to defrag?
[10:57] <moonshine> ok, this howto tells me to "In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates (or feisty-updates "Recommended Updates" if you are already on feisty)" in adept. how to i "enable edgy updates"??
[10:58] <Mr_Sonoma> edgy is a older distro than fiesty
[10:58] <moonshine> i'm on dapper :/
[10:58] <Mr_Sonoma> oh
[10:58] <dr_willis> Darkrift,  defrag ext2/3 filesystems?
[10:58] <Darkrift> no
[10:58] <Darkrift> ntfs
[10:58] <Darkrift> i need to defrag em so i can resize em
[10:58] <dr_willis> id have to say do some googling.. Im not brave enough to try that. :)
[10:59] <Darkrift> slowly but surely getting rid of vista
[10:59] <dr_willis> i always defragged them with windows.
[10:59] <moonshine> do i just manually add the repositories??
[10:59] <Darkrift> kubuntu needs more space :)
[10:59] <dr_willis> i got loads of space.. :) 500gb hd's are $100 now heh.
[10:59] <moonshine> that's the same as just editing my sources/list which apparently is _not_ recommended
[10:59] <dr_willis> moonshine,  i edit mine all the time.. but i did take the time to learn what i was doing. :)
[10:59] <dr_willis> !easysource
[10:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:00] <eloque> i found it guys
[11:01] <eloque> thanks to dr_willis i was logging into a failsafe session
[11:01] <raheem> wow. .. hope it is up now
[11:01] <eloque> 'instead of a kde one
[11:01] <raheem> hehe..
[11:01] <moonshine> well w/ debian that worked fine .. i've only tried that once w/ *buntu and it f*cked my system
[11:01] <eloque> ya jazakallaahu khairan
[11:01] <raheem> ahlan wa sahlan
[11:01] <raheem> :)
[11:02] <Ryaren> Somebody can see what is wrong in this xorg.conf file? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29043/plain/
[11:02] <dr_willis> moonshine,  thats why one backups the original configs. :)
[11:02] <Ryaren> The log file says: (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  1.0-7184  Tue Aug  1 18:40:06 PDT 2006
[11:02] <Ryaren> (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[11:02] <Ryaren> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
[11:02] <Ryaren> (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
[11:02] <Ryaren> (EE) No devices detected.
[11:02] <Ryaren> Fatal server error:
[11:02] <Ryaren> no screens found
[11:03] <eloque> moonshine, i am sure ubuntu doesnt wanna have sex with your system
[11:03] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  check lspci output.. see f that pci busid is right?
[11:03] <moonshine> you're a big help dr_willis ;P
[11:03] <dr_willis> :) and i know it!
[11:03] <dr_willis> RTFM and BACKUP! are the operative words when becomming a Leet-haxor!
[11:03] <moonshine> i'm all backed up i'm just trying to avoid a clean install everytime i want to upgrade
[11:03] <moonshine> heheh
[11:03] <Ryaren> dr_willis: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]  (rev a1)
[11:03] <dr_willis> I find it easier to do clean reinstalls :)
[11:04] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  bummer.. there goes that idea.
[11:04] <HayaBusa> hello again. I have latest Kubuntu installed, and i have nvidia geforce 7300 GS card. How do i install the driver and openGL ? i tired to install this morning and system faild to boot into desktop
[11:04] <vlt_home> Hello. I installed Kubuntu 7.04. When I press the shutdown button I see a selection offering "Log off", "Suspend", "Hibernate", "Restart" and "Shutdown". Some of the letters are underlined but when I press Alt+Key the wrong action is done (shutdown instead of hibernate, standby instead of shutdown ...). Any idea what's wrong here? ($LANG=de_DE.UTF-8)
[11:04] <eloque> hmm
[11:04] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  how did you try to install?
[11:04] <Ryaren> dr_willis: I don't understand you
[11:04] <eloque> i just installed azureus from adept and it isnt showing up
[11:04] <HayaBusa> i used nvidia-glx
[11:04] <HayaBusa> i was told how to enter the command
[11:05] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  your #'s seem correct.. so not sure what else may be wrong.
[11:05] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  i always just install the 'restricted-manager' and run it. and let it install the right drivers.
[11:05] <moonshine> _and_ i already accidentally did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:05] <dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[11:05] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[11:05] <HayaBusa> now how do you do that ???
[11:05] <eloque> hmm
[11:05] <eloque> i typed azureus in terminal and the window came up
[11:05] <eloque> then it aborted
[11:05] <dr_willis> install restricted-manager, kdesu restricted-manager
[11:06] <eloque> # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[11:06] <eloque> #
[11:06] <eloque> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x8ee9c172, pid=6306, tid=3084823440
[11:06] <vlt_home> dr_willis: suspend means storing all data to RAM (consuming little amount of energy) while hibernate completely writes to disk and shuts down (for years if necessary)
[11:06] <HayaBusa> restricted-manager not found
[11:06] <dr_willis> vlt_home,  ok. Ive always heard it called like 'suspend to ram' and 'suspend to disk' :)
 restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main,
[11:07] <dr_willis> check your spelling
[11:07] <vlt_home> dr_willis: Erm, yes, that's right :)
[11:07] <dr_willis> its not installed by default either..
[11:07] <dr_willis> vlt_home,  it suspends to the SWAP partition for the disk part dont it?
[11:08] <vlt_home> dr_willis: Yes. Works fine on my notebook here.
[11:08] <Kubuntu> Mr_Sonoma: I got the screen to work with my video card for now
[11:08] <Mr_Sonoma> good
[11:08] <HayaBusa> still saying restricted-manager not found
[11:08] <JuJuBee> Howdy all.
[11:08] <Mr_Sonoma> you had to do a little editing?
[11:09] <Kubuntu> Yeah
[11:09] <dr_willis> vlt_home,  so if i got 2gb ram on my laptop, and only 512mb swap... how can it suspend to swap? Compression?
[11:09] <Kubuntu> I used the frame buffer, then changed the resolution
[11:09] <Mr_Sonoma> i suspected as such but didnt want to lead you wong as i had no experiance with that manufacturer
[11:09] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  you are using the latest kubuntu? Feisty?
[11:09] <JuJuBee> Is there a program in repo's that will download entire website for offline viewing?  I am going away and will not have internet access, but neet to read some stuff from a website.
[11:09] <Kubuntu> Ah
[11:09] <HayaBusa> Yes dr_willis
[11:09] <dr_willis> JuJuBee,  httrack perhaps?
[11:09] <HayaBusa> with all the updates done till this morning
[11:09] <JuJuBee> THanks
[11:10] <NickPresta> JuJuBee, you can try `wget -m WEBSITE` to mirror it locally
[11:10] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  try 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install restricted-manager'
[11:10] <HayaBusa> thanks
[11:10] <dr_willis> !find httrack
[11:10] <ubotu> Found: httrack, httrack-doc, libhttrack-dev, libhttrack1, webhttrack
[11:10] <dr_willis> !info httrack
[11:10] <ubotu> httrack: Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.40.4-3.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB
[11:10] <vlt_home> dr_willis: No that won't work. I installed my sister's laptop with 2gb ram recently and needed >2gb swap just to get hibernate work. :/
[11:11] <NickPresta> i have 2GB of swap >_>
[11:11] <moonshine> anyone here on a powerpc?
[11:11] <dr_willis> vlt_home,  i just upgraded my ram on my laptop. and was wondering about that.
[11:12] <vlt_home> dr_willis: I don't know if hibernating would work if you used less that your swap space's amount of RAM (w/o buffers and caches) ...
[11:12] <vlt_home> than*
[11:12] <HayaBusa> ok installation was complete.. what else do i have to do to install nvidia driver dr??
[11:12] <dr_willis> vlt_home,  what If you had 2gb of swap. and 2 gb ram.. and had them both full? and tried to suspend to disk? :)
[11:13] <dr_willis>  kdesu restricted-manager
[11:13] <dr_willis> run it :)
[11:13] <vlt_home> dr_willis: Hmmm ...
[11:13] <HayaBusa> i did
[11:13] <HayaBusa> i have my graphic card listed . should i enable it ?
[11:13] <dr_willis> well.. if you WANT it to use the drivers... ya think ya should. :)
[11:14] <HayaBusa> thanks. do i have to modify xorg.conf later on ???
[11:14] <dr_willis> you will have to reboot.
[11:14] <dr_willis> the program should take care of the rest.
[11:14] <HayaBusa> thanks.
[11:14] <dr_willis> SHOULD.
[11:14] <dr_willis> :)
[11:14] <HayaBusa> wish me luck
[11:14] <HayaBusa> :D
[11:14] <Minataku> lo, dr_willis
[11:15] <HayaBusa> be right back :)
[11:16] <vlt_home> The German terms in the shutdown dialog are "A_b_melden", "_R_uhezustand", "_T_iefschlaf", "_N_eustart" and "Aus_s_chalten". What are the shortcut letters in lang=en?
[11:16] <waylandbill> that is interesting to know about the swap and hibernate. can't remeber last time I hibernated though
[11:18] <Sanne> vlt_home: for Dapper, if it helps, it is: _E_nd Current Session, _T_urn Off Computer, _R_estart Computer, _C_ancel
[11:19] <dr_willis> Hay Minataku   i got a challange for you!
[11:20] <moonshine> hibernation looks great for, say, travelling ..
[11:20] <Minataku> >.>
[11:20] <dr_willis> trying to track down this.. err.. adult video. It was a Parody of the Martial Arts type movie (crouching tiger, hidden dragon sort of thing) Only it was Porn.. Naked martial Arts porn...    BUT i cant find it!
[11:20] <dr_willis> Just saw a 3 min clip..  cant even find the clip any more.. friend at work wanted to see it...
[11:20] <dr_willis> heh heh...
[11:20] <Minataku> lol
[11:21] <Minataku> I'll ask around
[11:21] <dr_willis> Ever seen somthing similer on the various video sites? i must of gotten it off some funny video collection site.
[11:21] <Ryaren> How can I fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29045/plain/
[11:21] <Minataku> Can't recall
[11:22] <vlt_home> Sanne: Ok, there's T for Tiefschlaf that becomed TurnOff, R for Ruhezustand -> Restart. Can I fix this manually somewhere?
[11:22] <Minataku> I copy/pasted the desc in some other places, I'll see if anyone knows of it
[11:22] <vlt_home> s/becomed/becomes
[11:22] <dr_willis> Yea. its the kind of video ya see.. and cant belive it... :) then realize its porn..
[11:22] <dr_willis> soft-porn. :)
[11:23] <Minataku> Heehee
[11:23] <moonshine> nekkid martial arts .. awesome
[11:23] <dr_willis> :)
[11:23] <dr_willis> well partial nudity
[11:24] <kinus> Ryaren: the first thing I notice is that libc is missing
[11:24] <dr_willis> They are flying through the air and doing slow-cam stuff :)
[11:24] <ubuntu_> ok dr.. i reboot, and no more KDE.. i am using LIVE CD to have a chat with you guys..
[11:24] <ubuntu_> why NVIDIA is not working
[11:24] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  no idea. what was your card? what have you done so far?
[11:24] <Sam234> how do I move an ext3 partition?
[11:25] <ubuntu_> nvidia geforce 7300GS
[11:25] <kinus> move where Sam234?
[11:25] <Sam234> move along my hdd Kinus
[11:25] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  what all have you done to try to get it going?
[11:25] <waylandbill> Sam234: gparted livecd is good for that kind of stuff.
[11:25] <Sanne> vlt_home: no idea, sorry. I suspect you can't change those shortcuts. I would look at the keyboard shortcut editor if you can assign anything to those actions, if that's what you mean.
[11:25] <ubuntu_> After reboot, i see the kubuntu screen , then boots into black screen with cursor blinking . thats all
[11:25] <kinus> ya, or you can use qtparted on the Kubuntu live cd
[11:25] <Sam234> waylandbill gparted cannot move ext3 partitions
[11:26] <ubuntu_> when i enter command to start kdm , it say kdm already running
[11:26] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you get a Login: prompt?
[11:26] <ubuntu_> ye
[11:26] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:26] <ubuntu_> but in shell mode
[11:26] <ubuntu_> after i click on alt F4
[11:26] <dubbydubby> ok anyone Im trying to instal a new printer when i into the system settings - printer settings  and press administrator mode it crashes...
[11:27] <waylandbill> Sam234: I've moved ext3 partitions with it iirc.
[11:27] <dubbydubby> help
[11:28] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  so you get a solid black screen for X/kdm, which seems to be running, but have to get to the CONSOLE to do anything..
[11:28] <Sam234> waylandbill I click on features in gparted and it says that it can only move fat16, far32 and linux-swap partitions
[11:28] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you might want to 'sudo apt-get install irssi' to give you an text based irc client. that will let you get here to chat, from the console
[11:29] <moonshine> (s)he's on livecd
[11:29] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,   it almost sounds like your X settings are messed where the display is just not showing.. You dont have a TV out/TV hooked up do you?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> ohh god. that seems to be much complicated for me . .i think i will try to revert back to my old driver and use it as is
[11:29] <ubuntu_> no TV
[11:29] <ubuntu_> on older kubuntu , i had no problme what so ever.
[11:30] <dr_willis> Once when i installed the nvidia drivers.. it defaulted to the TV>.  i looked and checked.. for 2 hrs.. and couldeng get X working.. Then i turned on the TV and there it was. :)
[11:30] <raheem> good luck ubuntu..
[11:30] <raheem> see your tv screen... ;)
[11:30] <dr_willis> the command 'nvidia-xconfig -a' might  (MIGHT) tweak the config better..  backup any xorg.conf you got that works..
[11:30] <raheem> got to go.. good night
[11:30] <ubuntu_> in xorg.conf , should i replace nv with nvidia ????
[11:31] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  nv is the gpl drivers.. nvidia is the official ones from nvidia
[11:31] <dr_willis> thats about the only 'change' needed to use one or the other.
[11:31] <ubuntu_> in my xorg is nv at the moment
[11:31] <ubuntu_> i know i replaced that before , and then didn't work either. that was this morning
[11:31] <dr_willis> boot the system. get to console.  edit the file, try  'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' to see if it works
[11:32] <dr_willis> Its possible theres somting bigger going on.
[11:32] <dr_willis> nv SHOULD work.. unless the xorg.conf file is  messed up in other ways.
[11:32] <dr_willis> This is a LCD monitor or CRT?
[11:32] <ubuntu_> but this is a fresh instalation of kubuntu ..
[11:32] <ubuntu_> LCD
[11:32] <ubuntu_> i read that i have to disable something in xorg
[11:33] <ubuntu_> i think is a extension . composite
[11:33] <dr_willis> possibially, ive never had to do so.. but ive had good luck with just runnign the 'restricted-manager' program
[11:33] <ubuntu_> my luck ran out of me long time ago .
[11:34] <dr_willis> this isntall worked for a while then stopped?
[11:34] <ubuntu_> in live CD. .how can i run restricted and disable the NVIDIA ?
[11:34] <ubuntu_> never worked
[11:34] <dr_willis> thats a bit harder.. :)
[11:34] <dr_willis> nv dident work from the first install eh?
[11:34] <ubuntu_> on previous kubuntu i used install nvidia-glx . thats all
[11:34] <dr_willis> so the nvidia card on this sytem has NEVER worked/been cofigured right eh?
[11:35] <ubuntu_> not in this version .. nothing seems to be working
[11:35] <dr_willis> thats very very odd.
[11:35] <dr_willis> you did a clean install? or a upgrade?
[11:35] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: I thought the composite disable was for ati cards.
[11:35] <ubuntu_> ohh, card works great.. but i have no open gl ,
[11:35] <ubuntu_> ohhhh
[11:35] <dr_willis> waylandbill,  i was thinking that also.
[11:35] <ubuntu_> i think is for nvidia too .
[11:35] <ubuntu_> i did clean install.
[11:36] <ubuntu_> i tried to upgrade long time ago , the upgrade crashed my system , so i decided to install from CD
[11:36] <mokkan> hey, for some reason i cant get mp3 support on my laptop
[11:37] <mokkan> even though i installed the packages that i needed
[11:37] <ubuntu_> if you can show me how to revert back to orignal stat, i would be great full
[11:37] <dr_willis> http://pastebin.ca/607740    - is my xorg.conf file for a sample to check out later.
[11:37] <dr_willis> If you are lucky. you can just change nvidia to nv, and it should work.
[11:37] <daljinski_balon> Hi to all! I need a help. Where can I find drivers for Motorola soft modem SM56?
[11:37] <dr_willis> or there may be backups of the older xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[11:37] <ubuntu_> its already set to nv . lol..
[11:37] <ubuntu_> i guess im not that lucky
[11:38] <dr_willis> if even 'nv' isent working.. well.. Not sure what to tell ya then. if you reboot.. and get a black screen for X,  go to the console and check the /var/log/ files to find a X log and see what it says is going on.
[11:38] <daljinski_balon> Hi to all! I need a help. Where can I find drivers for Motorola soft modem SM56? I google, but nothing. Pls help me
[11:38] <dr_willis> Its possible its some how working.. in the wrong way
[11:39] <waylandbill> daljinski_balon: that sounds like a winmodem. there may not be a driver for it.
[11:39] <dr_willis> could try 'nvidia-xconfig -a' as a possible fix,   or some of the other commands that tweak/redo the xorg.conf file
[11:39] <ubuntu_> im not good with linux. .so i can not perform all those technical stuff ..
[11:39] <ubuntu_> just wanted to have openGL so i can play few games. heheh
[11:39] <dr_willis> Time to learn then? :) learning is more fun then games.
[11:39] <dr_willis> IRC = the ultimate MMORPG.
[11:40] <ubuntu_> i know..
[11:40] <mokkan> so can anyone help me? mpg321 will play mp3's, but i cant get any kde programs to
[11:40] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: the knowledge is useful.
[11:40] <ubuntu_> but i don't think people here have much patiens for people like me .
[11:40] <dr_willis> mokkan,  i think the Kubuntu Faq mentions what packages are needed for the various programs to play mp3 files.
[11:40] <Ryaren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29046/plain/
[11:40] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  i said what ya need to try, and gave some possible fix's - what more ya want me to do? drive over there?
[11:41] <waylandbill> :)
[11:41] <ubuntu_> no.. thanks. i will figur it out, there is alway , clean install ;)
[11:41] <dr_willis> The windows answer!
[11:42] <daljinski_balon> Anyone here speaks german?
[11:42] <dr_willis> Spoken like a MS-Lemming-Zombie! :)
[11:42] <CrunchyFerrett> !de
[11:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:42] <daljinski_balon> But I need someone to translate me something about Motorola driver for ubuntu... The page is written on german.
[11:43] <CrunchyFerrett> dr_willis: If you do drive over, can you pick me up a sandwich?
[11:43] <CrunchyFerrett> daljinski_balon: Try using Googles "translate this page" function
[11:43] <remote_baloon> I did...... But....better not to speak...
[11:43] <remote_baloon> Results is ....khm....considerable
[11:44] <remote_baloon> *w/o s
[11:47] <mokkan> dr_willis, i followed both the FAQ and the RestrictedFormats documentation
[11:47] <mokkan> :\
[11:48] <CrunchyFerrett> REBOOT!
[11:51] <dr_willis> reboot, format, reboot  and format again! just to be safe!
[11:51] <dr_willis> !mp3
[11:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <dr_willis> Hmm..  wasent some kde app supposed to ask to install the mp3 things and terhe was a bug in it.
[11:53] <mokkan> it worked on my desktop
[11:53] <mokkan> but not my laptop
[11:53] <dr_willis> i just noted what package it installed. and manually installed it on my other machines.
[11:53] <dr_willis> I gotta work on that 'setup-my-stuff' script someday
[12:02] <tee-zett> i have a problem with sitecopy and webdav
[12:02] <tee-zett> it tells me, that my remote dir is wrong
[12:04] <ubuntu> I just re-re-installed Kubuntu. I've had problems with the nvidia graphics drivers. After I install them, restart, I don't get back to KDE. I get a black screen.
[12:06] <Sanne> ubuntu: did you install the correct one for your card of the three different nvidia drivers?
[12:06] <ubuntu> I installed the one that was in the Add/Remove section.
[12:06] <ubuntu> I have a GeForce2 MX, so I installed the "legacy" one.
[12:07] <meuhlol> hi allm i installed winxp in one partition on HDm and now cant boot from linux how to repair mbr with live cd pliz?
[12:07] <Sanne> ubuntu: I guess that's correct.
[12:07] <ubuntu> I installed Kubuntu, configured the wireless, updated, then installed the nVidia legacy driver.
[12:08] <ubuntu> It seems to me that the I shouldn't have updated.
[12:08] <ubuntu> Anyone get the nVidia drivers to work?
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> I've got them working under ubuntu. Haven't tried under kubuntu, but there shouldn't be any difference.
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> but then, I have oldish, fairly common cards (7600GTs)
[12:10] <Sanne> ubuntu: mine also work, but I'm on Dapper with a pretty new Nvidia card, so I guess that might be no help for you.
[12:10] <Sanne> SlimeyPete: oh, 7600 GT is oldish? That's mine also :)
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> well, it's last-generation now
 that's how it goes
[12:11] <Sanne> :)
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> though I find that a pair of 7600GTs will play any modern game at an OK framerate still