[01:34] <Dannilion> is there a way to manually force Kubuntu to use the correct resolution for my laptop monitor?
[01:35] <tretle> xorg config file?
[01:36] <Dannilion> that would be a good place to start. Where is it again?
[01:36] <tretle> but you should probably wait for someone else to help as i cant remember myself
[01:36] <tretle> and messing around with it can break your system
[01:37] <Dannilion> yes
[01:37] <Dannilion> need to reboot anyhow- messed up sudo's time ;)
[01:37] <tretle> lol
[01:45] <Dannilion> that's odd- /etx/X11/xorg.conf has the correct resolution (1280 x 800) but xrandr is saying 1024 x 768
[01:47] <Dannilion> how do I get Kubuntu to display 1280 x 800 instead of 1024 x 768?
[01:49] <tretle> cough cough, patience is key here :D
[01:49] <tretle> u using gutsy?
[01:51] <Dannilion> yes
[01:51] <Dannilion> and patience until... ?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> until someone
[01:53] <gnomefreak> !fixres | Dannilion
[01:53] <ubotu> Dannilion: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:53] <gnomefreak> :) night
[01:53] <tretle> untl someone with some knowledge on how to fix the problem at hand can step in
[01:53] <tretle> there we go
[01:54] <tretle> night gnomefreak
[02:21] <Dannilionz> yay! Thank you!
[02:25] <phr0stbyte> Anyone running VMware 6?
[03:39] <DanaG> Kill_X has random  in his(?) exit message.
[03:39] <DanaG> 000F000F
[04:00] <xsacha> hey, ever since yesterday when i updated, knetworkmanager has said im disconnected and all my websites cant be found. however, i can get on to irc?
[04:01] <xsacha> on kubuntu gutsy gibbon
[04:02] <wfarr> xsacha, Network Manager emits a signal for "not connected"
[04:03] <wfarr> many apps, when NM is installed, will check for this
[04:03] <wfarr> it's possible your IRC client/IM client is not doing this
[04:03] <wfarr> so it doesn't set you to "Offline" mode, unlike other apps
[04:03] <xsacha> so i have to kill kNM?
[04:04] <xsacha> awesome, it works! thx
[04:23] <Toma-> Does Dolphin ment to have 2 bookmark panels on either side of the viewing area?
[04:31] <stdin> anyone having problems with less?
[04:44] <Toma-> Hobbsee: youre a KDE fan right? Have you seen Dolphin come up with 2 bookmark columns?
[04:51] <stdin> yeah, I get that
[06:41] <scotth> anyone here having problems getting the number of viewports to change in compiz on the latest gutsy?
[06:41] <scotth> I've got 2x2 and can't change it
[06:55] <kingrayray> has anybody on gutsy been having any problems with banshee not reporting tracks to last.fm ?
[06:56] <DanaG> Somehow networkmanager sucks at finding type of WPA-PSK:
[06:56] <DanaG> AES or TKIP.
[06:56] <kingrayray> that sucks
[06:56] <DanaG> I thought it was entirely broken, because I couldn't connect.
[06:56] <DanaG> The SSID is hidden, yet knetworkmanager failed to even show "<ssid hidden>"
[06:56] <kingrayray> I had a lot of trouble getting my wifi card to connect to my 'net router, but it could connect to my offline router so I think verizon just sucks...
[06:57] <kingrayray> but on the other hand it worked in windows. I ended up just plugging an ethernet cord in, lol
[06:57] <xsacha> DanaG: ever since i updated KN it thinks im disconnected even tho im not
[06:57] <xsacha> DanaG: i have to kill KN so that apps know im online
[07:00] <DanaG> Oh, and I tried a different wifi card under XP -- even that had issues until I selected TKIP manually.
[07:00] <DanaG> And even XP does not show "SSID Not Broadcast" -- but XP makes the "connect to other network" a helluvalot harder to find.
[07:01] <xsacha> my HP laptop installs its own wireless software which is pretty good.. shows a nice list and all
[07:01] <xsacha> for XP
[07:03] <Hobbsee> DanaG: run "iwlist interface scan" and see if it comes up on that, adn then automatically on knm after?
[07:04] <DanaG> I use Intel Pro/Set.
[07:04] <DanaG> If I manually set ESSID, then it shows up with that SSID in knetworkmanager.
[07:06] <SeveredCross> I can report that the installer is a bit broken?
[07:06] <kingrayray> what happened?
[07:06] <SeveredCross> Inexplicably fails for me--after asking for xserver-xorg configuration, it just dies and says that that step cannnot be completed.
[07:07] <SeveredCross> Goes to a red screen and says "An installlation step failed..."
[07:07] <kingrayray> ah
[07:07] <kingrayray> I used the gui installer
[07:07] <SeveredCross> And tells me to try and re-run iti. when I do so, it just fails again.
[07:07] <SeveredCross> I grabbed a daily build so no LiveCD, only alternate install.
[07:07] <kingrayray> yeah
[07:07] <kingrayray> I'm lazy these days :p
[07:08] <SeveredCross> It's not a dealbreaker because I can still boot the system and just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and that'll take care of damn near everything I need.
[07:08] <SeveredCross> It's just a bit of a pain. :)
[07:08] <SeveredCross> And very strange, needless to say.
[07:08] <kingrayray> its probably something lame too, like a typo in a script. lol
[07:09] <SeveredCross> Proably.
[07:09] <kingrayray> well, it would be if I wrote it. lol
[07:09] <SeveredCross> I wouldn't be surprised...Or a package barfs with a strange return code and just sends the script into a tizzy fit.
[07:09] <kingrayray> lmao yeah
[07:09] <kingrayray> the joy of bugs
[07:10] <SeveredCross> I like staying on the bleeding ege of things.
[07:10] <SeveredCross> So I use development software, heh.
[07:10] <kingrayray> yeah
[07:10] <SeveredCross> When I compile new versions, I'll be damned if I check ut thew latest stable tarball. I svn checkout everything.
[07:10] <SeveredCross> Sure it's not quite as stable but still!
[07:10] <kingrayray> yeah I used to do that, I know exactly whatcha mean lol
[07:11] <kingrayray> but since then my free time has diminished greatly, so I can't spend too much time fixing my box
[07:11] <kingrayray> :(
[07:11] <SeveredCross> :(
[07:11] <SeveredCross> That is a sad sad occurence.
[07:11] <kingrayray> its terrible, my system's all stable, and I only get like 30 updates a day :(
[07:11] <kingrayray> lol
[07:13] <kingrayray> do you use banshee by chance?
[07:13] <kingrayray> .. and last.fm in conjunction? :p
[07:18] <SeveredCross> Yep.
[07:18] <SeveredCross> I do.
[07:18] <T-Connect> Is there a program that I can erase cd-rw?
[07:18] <SeveredCross> I really like Banshee.
[07:18] <kingrayray> SeveredCross: have you been having issues with it not reporting tracks? :s
[07:18] <SeveredCross> Nope, not recently
[07:18] <kingrayray> hmm
[07:18] <SeveredCross> Which build, 0.12.1?
[07:18] <kingrayray> lemme check
[07:19] <kingrayray> yes sir
[07:19] <kingrayray> hmm that's odd
[07:20] <kingrayray> are pretty screenshots offtopic here? xD
[07:20] <T-Connect> How do you guys erase cd-rw on Ubuntu?
[07:20] <kingrayray> umm I usually just right click it and go erase
[07:21] <kingrayray> or you could use gnomebaker or k3b, depending on your flavor of choice
[07:21] <T-Connect> Ok
[07:21] <T-Connect> Which one is good?/
[07:21] <DanaG> I prefer Amarok -- nothing else does folder views.
[07:22] <kingrayray> DanaG: that is a sweet feature about amarok
[07:22] <kingrayray> I just don't like how qt looks among the rest of my apps because im a gtk junkie
[07:22] <SeveredCross> That's my issue too.
[07:22] <kingrayray> because amarok is obviously better
[07:23] <SeveredCross> Plus Amarok seems finicky about multimedia keys on GNOME.
[07:23] <kingrayray> I'm just way too picky about interfaces
[07:23] <kingrayray> T-Connect: I like gnomebaker for the same reason I don't like amarok hehe
[07:23] <SeveredCross> And multimedia keys are too handy.
[07:23] <kingrayray> yeah totally
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> whats the fastest way to get virtualization going in Gutsy
[07:24] <kingrayray> brb
[07:25] <kingrayray> grrg
[07:25] <kingrayray> there we go :D
[07:25] <DanaG> I just let Amarok use its global shortcuts.
[07:26] <T-Connect> Cool it formating over my cd-rw
[07:26] <T-Connect> Thanks
[07:26] <kingrayray> np
[07:27] <T-Connect> I will save that info into my notes.
[07:28] <T-Connect> I like to write stuff down just in case I'm looking for something.
[07:28] <kingrayray> that's never a bad idea
[07:29] <kingrayray> grr fonts annoy me sometimes. brb
[07:35] <T-Connect> Hmmm... It stuck on 99% on gnomebaker?
[07:35] <T-Connect> It still going.
[07:36] <kingrayray> well, I can't say I've blanked an RW in quite some time, and if you're using gutsy, maybe there is a bug of some sort. I don't know
[07:36] <T-Connect> I'm using 7.04
[07:36] <kingrayray> then this is not the channel you are looking for
[07:37] <kingrayray> join #ubuntu
[07:37] <kingrayray> this is #ubuntu+1 hehe
[07:38] <T-Connect> Ha Ha Ha it still going after I quit. XD
[07:38] <T-Connect> Wtf
[07:38] <kingrayray> lol weird
[07:38] <T-Connect> Reboot
[07:45] <T-Connect> Ok I got rid of it.
[07:45] <T-Connect> It might be a beta version.
[07:46] <T-Connect> It did over format cd-rw.
[07:47] <kingrayray> it forgot to say "Hey im done!" :D
[07:50] <T-Connect> Right click on the iso does work without the gnomebaker. =D
[07:50] <T-Connect> It will erase too.
[07:50] <kingrayray> yeah that's how I burn isos
[07:56] <xsacha> same with kde
[08:07] <srbaker> folks
[08:07] <srbaker> i need some help with tftp
[08:07] <srbaker> client is saying "File not found"
[08:07] <srbaker> even though the server is sending it
[08:08] <srbaker> akrus: do you know anything about netbooting?
[08:09] <win32suxs> Hi There
[08:09] <kingrayray> hello
[08:09] <win32suxs> Guys i need a help from you
[08:10] <srbaker> i need help with tftp
[08:10] <srbaker> and #ubuntu didn't help
[08:10] <srbaker> im getting unexplainable "File Not Found" on the client
[08:10] <win32suxs> I am asked my a charity organisation to install web server
[08:11] <win32suxs> I have just installed Ubuntu 704 and can some one please tell me how to install apache ?
[08:11] <win32suxs> and configure offcourse please?
[08:13] <Hobbsee> win32suxs: #ubuntu for feisty support, like it says in the topic
[08:19] <win32suxs> Hobbsee: did you mean channel name with feisty support?
[08:19] <kingrayray> win32suxs: this is #ubuntu+1
[08:19] <xsacha> win32suxs: this channel is got ubuntu gutsy gibbon, #ubuntu is for feisty fawn (7.04)
[08:20] <Hobbsee> win32suxs: yes
[08:20] <win32suxs> Do you guys use Apache server by any chance ?
[08:20] <Hobbsee> !apache
[08:20] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:26] <kingrayray> using nautilus for uploading stuff to ftp seems to have broken recently.. anybody else got a similar issue?
[08:26] <kingrayray> it says uh.. "there was an error launching the default action command with this location"
[08:27] <win32suxs> clear
[08:27] <win32suxs> not much help unfortunately :(
[08:28] <kingrayray> http://kingrayray.wallooza.org/Screenshot.png
[08:28] <kingrayray> hehe
[08:28] <win32suxs> There is so much of information to setup IIS on windows but i dont want to do that
[09:12] <win32suxs> how can i change ServerName in ubuntu i had a look at the file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file and i cant find any thing called ServerName ?
[09:12] <win32suxs> Amaranth: any help please?
[09:14] <level1_> Hi, I'm on feisty, and I think that the latest kernel could resolve an issue I'm having with suspending... is it safe to download 2.6.22 for me?  Is there an easy way to do it?
[09:14] <T-Connect> I didn't find anything wrong with the Tribe 2 release. I burn it onto dvd-rw to test the build out.
[09:15] <T-Connect> Seem stable to me. I testedd most stuff out on it.
[09:15] <Hobbsee> level1_: no, you dont want to take gutsy's kernel to feisty.
[09:15] <Hobbsee> level1_: if you try to install it straight, it wont install - you'll have to rebuild the entire thing for feisty.
[09:16] <level1_> Hobbsee: I see... is there another option?  Nobody's put the kernels in .deb for feisty yet?
[09:16] <level1_> Is gutsy fairly stable at this point?
[09:16] <T-Connect> I thought kernels is in Ubuntu.
[09:16] <level1_> ?
[09:16] <Hobbsee> Nobody's put the kernels in .deb for feisty yet?  <-- see what i just said
[09:17] <Hobbsee> no, it's got broken bits.  you should not run it yet
[09:17] <level1_> how hard is it to compile a kernel?
[09:18] <T-Connect> Oh great I'm banned fron #ubuntu just for load back after a few mins.
[09:18] <T-Connect> lol
[09:18] <T-Connect> [INFO] 	You are banned from this channel.
[09:19] <T-Connect> I wonder why I'm banned?
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[10:17] <mikkael> is it possible to find out when libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4 will be uploaded to the servers ?
[10:26] <shirish> does anybody how I can know if I'm using GDM as my login screen or not
[10:47] <pvandewyngaerde> this doesn't look good http://pietervandewyngaerde.googlepages.com/updatewrong.png
[10:53] <RoC_MasterMind> When 2.6.21 makes it into an Ubuntu package, will the tickless feature be enabled?
[10:53] <MugginsM> I'd rather have a tickles feature ;)
[10:54] <pvandewyngaerde> isn't that for .23 ?
[10:55] <RoC_MasterMind> It debuted in 2.6.21
[10:55] <RAOF> RoC_MasterMind: However, we already have .22 :)
[10:55] <RoC_MasterMind> that doesn't mean tickless is compiled in.
[10:56] <ponicg> Tickles?
[10:56] <RoC_MasterMind> It's not enabled by default when I downloaded and merged my config.
[10:56] <ponicg> ohh, tickless*
[10:56] <ponicg> lol
[10:56] <ponicg> I can't read
[10:56] <pvandewyngaerde> Tickless is unfortunately not merged into the x86-64 architecture in kernel.org kernels, but you can get the patch for this here. This patch hopefully will go into the 2.6.23 kernel.
[10:57] <pvandewyngaerde> http://www.linuxpowertop.org/results.php
[10:57] <RoC_MasterMind> On #ubuntu-devel somebody said the config flag is set to yes in gutsy.
[10:57] <RoC_MasterMind> CONFIG_NO_HZ=
[10:57] <RoC_MasterMind> y
[10:59] <RoC_MasterMind> I don't understand...I saw tickless when I downloaded 2.6.21.5 in the menuconfig.
[11:01] <RoC_MasterMind> If it's config var is CONFIG_NO_HZ and that's set to yes in the config in /boot/, then it would be enabled...correct?
[11:06] <RAOF> Yup, apparently unless you're running x86-64
[11:10] <RoC_MasterMind> Yeah those 64-bit people.
[11:10] <RoC_MasterMind> That craze was replaced by the dual core craze.
[11:12] <RAOF> Well, not really
[11:13] <pvandewyngaerde> i have 2 opteron 64 bit cpu :-)
[11:13] <RAOF> x86-64 is still substantially faster than IA32 :)
[11:13] <RAOF> Even on this C2D :)
[11:14] <RoC_MasterMind> "gutsy-desktop-i386"...does that mean it's ubuntu based...?
[11:16] <RoC_MasterMind> Substantially...how so?
[11:16] <RoC_MasterMind> Where do I get Tribe 2 so I can hose my system?
[11:17] <RAOF> RoC_MasterMind: x86-64 removed some of the more braindead restrictions of IA32.  In particular, it doubled the compiler-visible registers
[11:19] <RAOF> So, rather than being slightly slower in 64bit mode (like all other 32/64 bit processors), it gets ~10% speed improvement in general, and substantially more for some (mainly multimedia and rendering and crypto) applications.
[12:35] <MugginsM> hrm, aptitude just came up in what looks like chinese
[12:35] <MugginsM> that was exciting
[12:43] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:47] <dr_evil> interesting. I just burned tribe 2 on cd, and it's running dog slow. logs many "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 12345" must be a bad CD
[02:12] <dr_evil> the second CD passed verification, but the gui is frozen and doesn't redraw, except mouse cursor
[02:19] <dr_evil> login shells not working properly either, I can type but don't get output from ps, and then it freezes
[02:29] <dr_evil> anyone got an idea whats wrong?
[02:30] <sn0> dr_evil are you still getting i/oo errors on the cd?
[02:30] <sn0> just incase its the drive that is playing up, have you tried other disks
[02:31] <dr_evil> no, I'm not getting io errors
[02:31] <dr_evil> and memcheck has been running for 10 minutes now without problem
[02:31] <sn0> i originally had problems with the i386 image but i wasn't able to reproduce
[02:31] <sn0> tried one of this week's daily images and it worked fine
[02:36] <dr_evil> I now tried booting 4th time, and just heard the startup sound, but no image, and TFT says: no input signal on DVI#1
[02:53] <dr_evil> now (6th attempt) it booted into gui, and I was able to run the installer
[02:54] <sn0> dr_evil sounds quite strange, what is your computer spec?
[02:56] <dr_evil> core 2 duo 2,4 Ghz, intel 975 chipset, 2GB Kingston Ram, some SATA harddisks, nvida graphics card
[02:57] <dr_evil> it's kind of stuck now after selecting manual disk space partitioning, just showing the wait cursor...
[02:57] <sn0> 975 hmm someone else was experiencing problems i think yesterday
[02:57] <sn0> anything in the dmesg when booting ?
[02:59] <vinneh> anyone noticed firefox cant install anything
[02:59] <vinneh> you have to download the package from the ftp source manualy and then install it from a local source
[03:00] <vinneh> firefox themes, extensions
[03:00] <dr_evil> sn0 I'm looking...
[03:01] <dr_evil> Brought up 2 CPUs
[03:01] <dr_evil> PCI BIOS BUG MCFG area at f0000000 is not E820-reserved
[03:01] <dr_evil> PRI not using MMCONFIG
[03:01] <dr_evil> PCI not using MMCONFIG
[03:02] <vinneh> dr evil
[03:02] <dr_evil> some ACPI table errors and warnings
[03:02] <vinneh> have you tried setting a lpj kernel param and noacpic
[03:03] <dr_evil> not yet. but feisty was working well on that machine
[03:03] <vinneh> oh
[03:03] <vinneh> is gutsy same kernel ver?
[03:04] <stdin> no
[03:04] <stdin> feisty=2.6.20 gutsy=2.6.22
[03:04] <vinneh> maby the flakey smp and apic issues are back
[03:06] <dr_evil> nothing else that looks suspicious in dmesg
[03:06] <dr_evil> install is still stuck
[03:06] <dr_evil> im going to reboot and try the noacpi
[03:06] <vinneh> i had to use
[03:06] <vinneh> alternate iso
[03:07] <vinneh> ubiquity would hang whne i selected a mountpoint
[03:07] <vinneh> apparently if you launch ubiquity with sudo
[03:07] <vinneh> it works in the live cd
[03:07] <vinneh> dr evil
[03:07] <vinneh> for a 2.0 core duo lpj is 8000000
[03:08] <vinneh> i dont know what it is for 2.4
[03:09] <dr_evil> well, sleep 1 seems to wait 1 second, should i try something else from the shell before rebooting?
[03:10] <vinneh> im trying to find the corect lpj for you
[03:10] <vinneh> you might as well chuck it in
[03:12] <vinneh> hi danni
[03:12] <vinneh> did you get your res sourted?
[03:14] <dr_evil> I'm trying to run ubuquity as root before rebooting
[03:15] <vinneh> good plan
[03:15] <maniacmusician> I'm compiling something and it says that it needs me to set a variable before it can compile (ASOUND_LIBRARY). How would I set that variable? I'm relatively new to compiling so this stuff is still a bit over my head.
[03:16] <vinneh> does it have a configure script?
[03:16] <vinneh> what you compiling
[03:16] <maniacmusician> err kind of. I'm compiling KDE4 from SVN. I've already got a working KDE4, so now I'm compiling kdeaccessibility
[03:16] <vinneh> you prolly have to put something in the makefile
[03:16] <vinneh> oh
[03:17] <vinneh> dunno
[03:17] <vinneh> i dont do kde at all
[03:17] <vinneh> lol
[03:17] <maniacmusician> setting variables would be a common thing no matter what was compiling, I would think...I've seen it at least in other programs. Also, KDE4 uses CMake, not make
[03:18] <gnomefreak> maniacmusician: you might want to ask about that in #ubuntu-motu its a better place for compiling/building questions
[03:18] <gnomefreak> or #kubuntu-devel
[03:18] <maniacmusician> thanks gnomefreak
[03:23] <dr_evil> installation is running now
[03:25] <vinneh> so it was just that stupid ubiquity not having permision bug
[03:25] <vinneh> i just use alternate iso's now
[03:25] <vinneh> old skool installer works great
[03:26] <Hobbsee> vinneh: ubiquity not having permission bug?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> which bug #?
[03:28] <sn0> bug 122645
[03:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitely" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645
[03:28] <sn0> bug 123984
[03:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123984 in ubiquity "Gutsy Gibbon: Test of tribe 2. Installation." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123984
[03:29] <Hobbsee> oh right, so you were meaning 122645
[03:29] <dr_evil> sn0 yes that partitioning problem is also in the relaese notes
[03:29] <sn0> ye
[03:30] <Hobbsee> oh neat, migration assistant dying
[03:31] <vinneh> tested what
[03:31] <vinneh> the manual partitioner?
[03:31] <vinneh> oh
[03:31] <vinneh> lol
[03:31] <vinneh> migration assistant
[03:32] <dr_evil> migration assistant also didn't show my feisty installation
[03:35] <sn0> Hobbsee i have nothing to migrate :<
[03:35] <Hobbsee> sn0: ah
[03:36] <dr_evil> highest resolution offered it 1024*768, it somehow didn't detect the native screen resolutun :/
[03:44] <dr_evil> xresprobe was a bad idea, no more display output :(
[03:51] <dr_evil> bug 67369
[03:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67369 in xorg "[Feisty]  Wide screen not correctly detected (16/10)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67369
[04:04] <vinneh> dr evil
[04:05] <vinneh> upi can fix that
[04:05] <vinneh> really easily
[04:05] <vinneh> oh
[04:05] <vinneh> what graphic xhip
[04:05] <vinneh> chip
[04:06] <dr_evil> nvidia. but I already fixed it as described in the bugreport
[04:07] <vinneh> okies
[04:32] <dr_evil> samba-common is installed, but "Shared Folders" claims it isn't
[06:02] <vinneh>  melst
[06:57] <Dannilion> ARG! More graphics problems
[06:57] <Dannilion> I can't even play Supertux at the moment- the screen flashes
[08:01] <dr_evil> is it normal that selecting any hdd root folder needs about 20 seconds until the content is displayed?
[08:04] <dr_evil> running ls in xterm will display it immediately
[08:05] <dr_evil> and the desktop doesn't redraw during that time
[09:11] <vinneh> man i love the synaptics touchpad driver
[09:11] <vinneh> option TwoFingerScrolling "1" :D
[09:45] <GaryParr> hello... was directed over here from the #ubuntu channel... have an LVM EVMS question and no one could answer... anyone here mind?
[09:47] <GaryParr> installed feisty from alternate cd... created logical volumes... two weird (or maybe not) things... first disk usage analyzer shows / at 100% but a df -h shows / at something like 17% full.... no big deal....
[09:47] <GaryParr> real question... is there a difference (performance/stability) between mapping a logical volume through EMV device instead of the lvm2 mapper?
[09:48] <GaryParr> errr.... make that EVMS device
[09:50] <GaryParr> ello? anyone here?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> GaryParr: did you read the topic?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> this is not the place for feisty questions
[09:53] <GaryParr> yeah... sorry for that... the #ubuntu group suggested I try here... the idea was the collective brain power on this channel exceeded what was over there...
[09:53] <gnomefreak> GaryParr: yeah i saw go back in there and ask again
[09:53] <GaryParr> will do...
[10:46] <BFrank> how is gutsy able to have all the apps dump debugging info to the terminal?
[10:46] <BFrank> ~
[10:58] <DigitalNinja> Anyone know how long Feisty upgrades will last?
[10:59] <DigitalNinja> I need to know how much time I have before I'm forced to "upgrade" to Gutsy
[11:01] <sn0> DigitalNinja 18months on non LTS releases i believe
[11:01] <DigitalNinja> Oh
[11:01] <DigitalNinja> That's right
[11:02] <theoros> will gutsy have a "Mount ISO" option in the contextual menus?
[11:02] <DigitalNinja> Lets see
[11:02] <sn0> where LTS is 3 years on desktop and 5 years on server
[11:02] <sn0> theoros it would be nice :) but you can script it easily at the moment
[11:03] <theoros> sn0: yeah, i know, but i doubt most ubuntuists would want to go around scripting it themselves
[11:03] <DigitalNinja> That means this October we will all be forced to upgrade to Gutsy
[11:03] <DigitalNinja> Do I have that right?
[11:03] <sn0> well usually ive been posting people to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Mount_ISO_script , but i haven't seen a note to include it if one exists
[11:03] <theoros> DigitalNinja: you won't be forced, per se, you just won't be able to get updates
[11:03] <DigitalNinja> I see
[11:04] <sn0> DigitalNinja not at all, the 18months is how long updates will be provided to the repositories i guess, so quite some time yet
[11:05] <DigitalNinja> sn0: If my counting is correct October to October is 18 months
[11:05] <theoros> for feisty? wasn't it released a few months back?
[11:05] <sn0>  25
[11:05] <sn0> 
[11:05] <sn0> April 19th
[11:05] <sn0> 
[11:05] <sn0> 
[11:05] <DigitalNinja> oh
[11:05] <sn0> oops, sorry for paste
[11:05] <DigitalNinja> my counting is way off
[11:05] <sn0> wiki'd :)
[11:05] <theoros> so you have a year and a half from april 19th :)
[11:05] <DigitalNinja> oh
[11:05] <DigitalNinja> let me recount
[11:06] <theoros> it's over a year, that's all i'd need to know :p
[11:06] <DigitalNinja> theoros: It depends on when you decide to install Feisty
[11:07] <DigitalNinja> I'm going to be installing a couple of terminal servers using Feisty
[11:07] <theoros> DigitalNinja: true, but feisty updates will last until october 2008
[11:07] <DigitalNinja> I see
[11:07] <DigitalNinja> wait
[11:07] <DigitalNinja> I don't see
[11:08] <DigitalNinja> where do you get "october 2008"
[11:08] <sn0> DigitalNinja for servers generally you wouldn't want to touch them, so maybe dapper LTS (depending on kernel support + machine spec) or debian stable would be other alternatives
[11:08] <sn0> as they generally don't get updates and are supported for a long time
[11:09] <DigitalNinja> sn0: I would agree with you. However, this is a terminal server using LTSP. There are issues with 6.06. That's why I need Feisty
[11:09] <sn0> ah i see
[11:09] <DigitalNinja> one issue I ran into with 6.06 is sound.
[11:09] <theoros> DigitalNinja: april 19th 2007 = 4th month, add a year, that makes 4th month of 2007, add 6 months, that's 10th month = oct 2008?
[11:09] <theoros> 4th month of 2008*
[11:09] <DigitalNinja> theoros: I guess I need to go back to counting school
[11:09] <DigitalNinja> lol
[11:10] <DigitalNinja> I'm hoping Feisty and LTSP will allow the thin client to play audio
[11:11] <sn0> ill refrain from saying Debian too many times DigitalNinja but its another option :)
[11:11] <DigitalNinja> lol
[11:11] <DigitalNinja> Sure it is
[11:11] <DigitalNinja> I'll grow old waiting for updates
[11:12] <DigitalNinja> That's why "Debian" users run testing or unstable
[11:12] <sn0> it depends how its being used really, i run sid on the desktop but for servers stable or stable + backports
[11:12] <sn0> as lenny is quite volatile atm
[11:13] <DigitalNinja> I guess Feisty would qualify as testing
[11:13] <DigitalNinja> sort of
[11:17] <BFrank> what is done in beta releases of ubuntu to make it verbose at the terminal?
[11:18] <sn0> BFrank to show verbose when booting ?
[11:18] <BFrank> no
[11:18] <BFrank> when running apps
[11:18] <sn0> oh i misunderstood, thought maybe the grub quiet/splash options
[11:25] <BFrank> ***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[28652] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...
[11:25] <BFrank> ***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[28652] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...
[11:25] <BFrank> apparently firefox dumped core
[11:26] <PriceChild> BFrank, those memory warnings are shown for everyone else too... its incorrect coding which needs to be fixed in all the apps
[11:26] <BFrank> does that effect more than just Ubuntu?
[11:26] <BFrank> also, how are they being made to display?
[11:28] <sn0> BFrank wfarr mentioned its new GLiB + GObject stuff , i dont understand it really :)
[11:28] <BFrank> interesting
[11:28] <BFrank> so that was a compilation option on Glib/Gobject?
[11:28] <BFrank> that would probably mean, this would affect more than just Ubuntu
[11:30] <sn0> BFrank see http://www.mail-archive.com/gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org/msg09138.html
[11:30] <gnomefreak> BFrank: with firefox you are going to get that until maybe last alpha maybe beta
[11:32] <BFrank> I was curious how it was happening and how that might impact the use of firefox on more than just ubuntu
[11:33] <gnomefreak> BFrank: its all glib apps but firefox doesnt use g_thread never calls it never did (all mozilla apps) so we have to find away around it but the warning is not harmful
[11:33] <BFrank> hmm, well firefox continuously coredumps when going to preferences
[11:33] <BFrank> or when trying to download files
[11:33] <BFrank> and thunderbird is crashing also
[11:33] <gnomefreak> BFrank: its not related
[11:33] <BFrank> ah
[11:33] <BFrank> it also has problems sending the core file or information too
[11:33] <gnomefreak> BFrank: please file bug reports using apport when you crash
[11:34] <gnomefreak> BFrank: thats an apport issue
[11:34] <gnomefreak> BFrank: make sure you are up to date
[11:34] <gnomefreak> iirc the apport devel said that was fixed in latest (i might be wrong) but wont know anymore on that until after the 15th
[11:34] <BFrank> what do I need to type at terminal
[11:35] <BFrank> to apt-get to update?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> BFrank: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   (but you really should know the terminal before using gutsy)
[11:36] <BFrank> sweet
[11:36] <BFrank> it is updating
[12:09] <PriceChild> does anyone else find that on some reboots/halts, gdm is killed... then starts up again before being killed again for shutdown?
[12:26] <tretle> http://pastebin.com/944044
[12:26] <tretle> could someone clarify that its totem crashing said applictaion
[12:27] <tretle> and what bonabo is having problems with?