[01:47] <DarkSun88> G'Night.
[12:31] <asac> hjmf: hi
[12:32] <asac> i think from now on i have to get you into the retracers group ... lets see what i can do in london
[12:32] <asac> hope this won't be a problem :/
[12:32] <hjmf> asac: hi
[12:33] <hjmf> retracers group, looks cool :)
[12:33] <asac> have you read pittis mail?
[12:33] <hjmf> no I've been busy this week
[12:33] <hjmf> looking, is it in the devel list?
[12:34] <asac> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-July/000312.html
[12:34] <asac> thought so first ... but its devel-announce
[12:34] <asac> this time
[12:35] <asac> look at the HowToTriage page
[12:35] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#head-f46ac7bd66be716a03d2d4fb0788725cc9cc7ba0
[12:35] <asac> the reprocessing bots will subscribe the ubuntu-crashes-main or ubuntu-crashes-universe team, which are essentially ubuntu-core-dev and ubuntu-dev, but without bug email.
[12:35] <asac> so i hope i can get you into the crashes team
[12:35] <asac> s
[12:38] <asac> hmmm ... apparently core-dev is administrator ... so i could just add you there :)
[12:38] <asac> ;)
[12:38] <hjmf> asac: great ;)
[12:38] <asac> but i should probably let people know :)
[12:38] <hjmf> then lets wait, things well done are better :P
[12:39] <asac> yeah
[12:39] <asac> maybe its just a fault
[12:39] <asac> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-crashes-universe/+members
[12:39] <asac> universe has also all ubuntu-dev as administrator
[12:39] <asac> which might be intentionally
[12:39] <asac> e.g. if policy is that this is quite an open group ... where devs can help people deliberately if they think its important to have them in that group
[12:40] <hjmf> yes
[12:40] <asac> will figure out on monday
[12:40] <hjmf> k
[12:40] <asac> we don't have that many crashers atm, right?
[12:41] <hjmf> no, not too much, I've been doing little work during this week and today I only have tb crashes pending
[12:42] <hjmf> I thought that today I'll have some fun with tons of gutsy crashes
[12:42] <hjmf> :)
[12:42] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i have an iceape crash you can try to retrace if you want
[12:42] <hjmf> tell me the number
[12:42] <gnomefreak> i asked for another report but ofcourse no reply
[12:42] <asac> Bug 124520
[12:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124520 in firefox "[ GUTSY ]  Firefox png icon very small" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124520
[12:42] <asac> hehe
[12:42] <asac> thats funny
[12:43] <asac> before i used a 32x32 icon people where complainting that its too big
[12:43] <asac> now its too small :)
[12:43] <hjmf> yeah
[12:43] <hjmf> :)
[12:43] <asac> maybe its that he scaled down the huge icon manually ... and now the small is automatically scaled down by same ratio?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> hjmf: bug 123750
[12:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123750 in iceape "iceape-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123750
[12:44] <asac> ==> won't fix
[12:45] <hjmf> gnomefreak: k, looking
[12:45] <gnomefreak> asac: something is really wrong with firefox :(
[12:46] <asac> i don't want to know :)
[12:46] <asac> hehe
[12:46] <asac> with trunk or what?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> asac: 2.0.0.4
[12:46] <asac> why?
[12:47] <asac> on my laptop i have gutsy ... and iirc it worked well yesterday
[12:47] <gnomefreak> last update you pushed i lost a couple of bookmarks (thought it was just me) the ones i saved on toolbar had gone(mozilla pastebin) and now i go to my homepage(set in preff.) and i have to keep logging in it doesnt automagicly log me in anymore
[12:48] <asac> gnomefreak: you use trunk as well from time to time, right?
[12:48] <asac> trunk now trashes your bookmarks
[12:48] <gnomefreak> yes i think so
[12:48] <asac> at least for me
[12:48] <gnomefreak> not trunk but granparadiso
[12:48] <asac> he?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> maybe that is why. that seems right with the logging in
[12:48] <asac> granparadiso alpha5 didn't do any harm to me
[12:48] <asac> it was just the latest
[12:48] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont have trunk on gutsy
[12:49] <gnomefreak> i have granparadiso
[12:49] <asac> hmm
[12:49] <gnomefreak> trunk only on feisty
[12:49] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[12:49] <asac> don't you share the same home?
[12:49] <asac> hi
[12:49] <gnomefreak> asac: yes but trunk doesnt start remember(cant find application.ini
[12:49] <gnomefreak> )
[12:50] <asac> yeah ... but what is the last build that worked for you?
[12:50] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[12:50] <gnomefreak> but that may be related the more i think about it
[12:50] <asac> hi DarkSun88
[12:50] <DarkSun88> asac: Hi :)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont remember
[12:51] <gnomefreak> that very well could be it but why would it trash bookmarks :(
[12:51] <asac> i am not really sure
[12:51] <asac> afaim dmose (mofo developer) did some improvements to places
[12:51] <asac> which might cause troubles
[12:52] <asac> places includes bookmarks
[12:52] <asac> but it definitly does trash bookmarks for me
[12:52] <asac> toolbar for sure
[12:52] <asac> live bookmarks as well
[12:52] <asac> i initially thought that its because it crashes during shutdown
[12:53] <asac> so bookmarks end up in corrupted state ... e.g. with unfinished write
[12:53] <asac> but then starting trunk again makes them reappear
[12:53] <asac> so it looks like they get migrated to some incompatible new datamodel or somethin
[12:53] <asac> g
[12:53] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:53] <asac> which would be a pita
[12:53] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:54] <asac> then we would need to use a different profile directory for trunk
[12:54] <gnomefreak> but granparadiso is the same package with different branding
[12:54] <asac> which works ... but isn't perfect of course
[12:54] <asac> graparadiso alpha5 is old
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:54] <asac> alpha6 trashes bookmarks for me
[12:54] <asac> so they landed something that makes the profile not reusable
[12:54] <asac> maybe its even a bug ... and they will revert something soon
[12:55] <asac> but without looking into it ... i cannot tell
[12:55] <gnomefreak> i have to keep better track when i run trunk from this system
[12:56] <asac> definitely ... lets put trunk to gutsy
[12:56] <asac> and then ask gutsy users to use it
[12:56] <asac> so we get early feedback from them
[12:56] <gnomefreak> we need to get it working first ;)
[12:56] <asac> feisty users usually don't like to trash their profile ... so gutsy is better for that
[12:56] <asac> gnomefreak: it works ... or?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> asac: it does/
[12:56] <asac> i just crashes on shutdown, right?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ?
[12:57] <asac> and sometimes it crashes on startup
[12:57] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont know im wiating for the source.
[12:57] <asac> afaik only on first startup
[12:57] <gnomefreak> waiting*
[12:57] <asac> waiting?
[12:57] <asac> is it me who is blocking you?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[12:57] <asac> he?
[12:57] <asac> what do i need to todo?
[12:57] <asac> we have all patches to make it build properly ... and install application.ini and platform.ini, right?
[12:58] <asac> or where did you get stuck?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: i tried pulling from feisty repos but the dsc wouldnt unpack due to diff
[12:58] <asac> gnomefreak: use bzr branch
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: that is 703
[12:58] <asac> yes ... go for 0708
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:58] <asac> its not your job to respin the old one
[12:58] <asac> s
[12:58] <asac> i have to track this down
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i thought you were sticking with 628
[12:58] <asac> and it really looks like its something in cairo
[12:59] <asac> yeah ... i won't publish them ... i just need to track down where the problem is
[12:59] <asac> i won't publish anything ... i just said that you won't need to spin the old one
[12:59] <asac> so just assume i never said anything about it :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> k
[01:00] <asac> aeh ... of course 0706 is the latest you can safely pull :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ill work on it in a few
[01:06] <gnomefreak> hmm you didnt merge the changes to your branch (atleast LP doesnt show it)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> ok grabbing it and see if i can get it to build
[01:16] <gnomefreak> did we stop building mozilla-chatzilla?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> or firefox-chatzilla whatever the name is
[01:42] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I've tried several things but I couldn't get a usable backtrace. I'll try the last attempt after lunch
[01:43] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i didnt think you would beable to but had to try
[01:43] <gnomefreak> hjmf: thank you
[01:48] <asac> ubuntu_laptop: i have not pushed it
[01:48] <asac> mt should be buildable, right?
[01:48] <ubuntu_laptop> chatzilla?
[01:48] <asac> i mean ... you pushed the patches et al to it?
[01:49] <asac> no
[01:49] <asac> my branch
[01:49] <ubuntu_laptop> oh branhc
[01:49] <asac> actually my branch is dead
[01:49] <ubuntu_laptop> yes i pushed to mt branch
[01:49] <asac> i will push to mt as well when i want
[01:49] <ubuntu_laptop> sorry major issues with chatzilla
[01:49] <asac> then mt should be fine
[01:51] <gnomefreak> asac: is there a difference from firefox-xhatzilla to icepae-chatzilla?
[01:52] <asac> no idea :)
[01:52] <gnomefreak> firefox-chatzilla(mozilla-*) what ever name it is
[01:52] <asac> probably its hooked in differently
[01:52] <asac> but the rest is the same
[01:52] <gnomefreak> asac: it cant be used to join 2 channels :(
[01:52] <asac> why?
[01:52] <asac> which one?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> and i cant even find mozilla-* or firefox-chatzilla in repos
[01:52] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <asac> its not provided ... yes
[01:57] <gnomefreak> nvm it was fixed :(
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ill be in and out today but i got trunk building in gutsy atm :)
[02:54] <asac> gnomefreak: great
[02:57] <gnomefreak> asac: did you hear back from mozilla about airbag?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> i either have to add libcurl or --disable-airbag
[02:58] <gnomefreak> im gonna disable it for now
[03:01] <gnomefreak> ill push after its built
[03:09] <gnomefreak> asac: what is this --enable-application=APP
[03:14] <gnomefreak> configure: error: --enable-application=APP was not specified and is required.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> wondering what app to use inplace of APP
[03:16] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm its already defined
[03:16] <gnomefreak> that would be --enable-application=browser \
[03:16] <gnomefreak> maybe i should move that to top?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> -trunk is a frigging liar
[03:31] <asac> disable airbag
[03:31] <asac> for firefox its browser ... but why isn't it in there already?
[03:31] <asac> it always was
[03:31] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^
[03:31] <asac> gnomefreak: no don't move on top
[03:32] <asac> gnomefreak: you have syntax error somewhere then
[03:32] <asac> figure out whats wrong in those configure flags
[03:32] <asac> sorry for not reading eveyrything first ... but i write while i read :)
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ill look but everything should have been fine
[03:36] <gnomefreak> it builds with it on top
[03:36] <gnomefreak> asac: ^^
[03:37] <gnomefreak> is there an important reason not to put it on top?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> it seems to be looking for it first
[03:40] <gnomefreak> i moved it before you answered to try it and was outside when you responded (but it is building) so ill let it go for now
[05:25] <asac> gnomefreak: if it doesn't work unless you move it on top means that something is broken and lots of configure options will not be recognized/honoured
[05:26] <asac> the brokeness should be between top and the place it was before
[09:49] <gnomefreak> well it failed on application.ini