| Jester45 | its gcc.... | 12:27 |
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| Jester45 | like i said | 12:27 |
| Howdy125 | 128 megs here and xubuntu runs about 70% faser than freespire does on this old laptop .. :) | 12:28 |
| Howdy125 | I am a happy camper... | 12:28 |
| __Serge__ | cool | 12:29 |
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| cellofellow | Is there a way to make symlinks with Thunar? | 12:49 |
| Jester45 | you can make a link to the desktop | 12:49 |
| Jester45 | right click send to desktop (create a link) | 12:50 |
| cellofellow | hmm | 12:50 |
| cellofellow | but no Copy/Paste Link? | 12:50 |
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| twiggz | will apt-get upgrade work easily to get from 6.06 to the latest release? | 12:58 |
| Jester45 | its dist-upgrade | 12:59 |
| Jester45 | but many people have had problems upgrading over more than 1 version | 12:59 |
| twiggz | bummer. | 01:04 |
| twiggz | im not an ubuntu user....but the gf needs a better OS and i dont particularly feel like downloading another damn cd....so i reckon she will have to give that a try. or live with zenwalk like normal people. | 01:05 |
| grumpymole | twiggz: The amount you will have to download to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 will be almost the same as downloading the CD image for 7.04 | 01:07 |
| Howdy125 | Does xubuntu ship cd's ? | 01:07 |
| Jester45 | nope | 01:07 |
| Howdy125 | k | 01:07 |
| Jester45 | you can install a ubuntu server then install xubuntu-desktop | 01:07 |
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| __Serge__ | Hi | 01:18 |
| __Serge__ | i have a question... | 01:18 |
| BFTD | hi | 01:19 |
| BFTD | shoot | 01:19 |
| __Serge__ | why should i choose xubuntu instead of ubuntu or kubuntu? | 01:19 |
| Jester45 | because its faster and looks better | 01:20 |
| Jester45 | and why not? | 01:20 |
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| __Serge__ | ok but... | 01:21 |
| __Serge__ | i think xubuntu is faster and lighter than ubuntu because it has not some things that ubuntu has... | 01:22 |
| __Serge__ | am i right? | 01:22 |
| Jester45 | partly | 01:22 |
| Jester45 | its not just a striped down gnome | 01:23 |
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| Jester45 | its just a alternative to KDE and GNOME that is faster | 01:23 |
| Jester45 | it doesnt have a setting manager for everything like KDE | 01:24 |
| Jester45 | its kinda in the middle GNOME gives little for the user to configure how he/she likes. and KDE has odles of settings. xfce has a number of settings but not 20,000 of them | 01:26 |
| __Serge__ | i see | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | and it has less integrated programs like KDE | 01:27 |
| __Serge__ | but, for example... | 01:27 |
| __Serge__ | can i play music with xubuntu? | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | yes | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | you can install the same packages as ubuntu or kubuntu | 01:27 |
| __Serge__ | nice... | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | they all use the same repo | 01:28 |
| Jester45 | the only diffrence if the defualt installed packages | 01:28 |
| Jester45 | you can take a kubuntu install remove all the KDE stuff and install ubuntu-desktop and you will have an ubuntu install. remove all the GNOME stuff and you can get xubuntu-desktop. | 01:29 |
| __Serge__ | nice... | 01:30 |
| __Serge__ | very flexible stuff... | 01:30 |
| Jester45 | they have the same core packages. doing what i said above noramly leaves leftovers unless you remove every package. one way to isntall xubuntu is install a ubuntu server (command line only) and then isntall xubuntu-desktop to get the gui | 01:30 |
| Jester45 | a lot of xubuntu users use Konversation on their system | 01:31 |
| Jester45 | or replace mousepad with Kate | 01:31 |
| __Serge__ | what is kate? | 01:31 |
| Jester45 | or xfce-terminal with gnomes | 01:31 |
| BFTD | I use Gedit | 01:31 |
| Jester45 | one of KDE's numerous text editors | 01:31 |
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| __Serge__ | ok | 01:32 |
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| Jester45 | __Serge__, so if you feel like it you can install xubuntu try it and if you dont like try the other *-desktop packages and find one you like | 01:33 |
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| Jester45 | then you might want to install from a cd that desktop because useing the -desktop packages leaves stuff behind | 01:33 |
| __Serge__ | very nice... | 01:34 |
| __Serge__ | i thought it was more difficult... | 01:34 |
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| __Serge__ | what about games? | 01:49 |
| __Serge__ | can i play starcraft in x/k/ubuntu? | 01:49 |
| __Serge__ | or soldat, quake, etc? | 01:49 |
| __Serge__ | ? | 01:50 |
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| __Serge__ | hello??? | 01:52 |
| __Serge__ | ???? | 01:54 |
| __Serge__ | anyone? | 01:54 |
| Jester45 | hi | 01:56 |
| Jester45 | you can play windows games via wine or there are a lot of games in the repo | 01:56 |
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| __Serge__ | but i want to play starcraft... | 01:57 |
| __Serge__ | can i do it on ubuntu | 01:57 |
| __Serge__ | ? | 01:57 |
| Jester45 | have a look at the app db at wine hq | 01:57 |
| __Serge__ | ok but.......... | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | i think you can there is only a small sound problem if i remeber | 01:58 |
| __Serge__ | ....what is wine???? | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | wine is a API layer | 01:58 |
| __Serge__ | ....is a what???? : ) | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | kinda like an emulator but its not | 01:58 |
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| __Serge__ | sorry, i'm a newbie... : P | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | lets you run windows programs in linux | 01:58 |
| __Serge__ | aaaahh.... nice... | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | you cant just run windows programs from linux | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | you need to use wine its pretty good | 01:59 |
| __Serge__ | i see | 01:59 |
| Jester45 | a bit slow | 01:59 |
| __Serge__ | aahhh... because in windows the executables have ".exe"... | 01:59 |
| __Serge__ | and in linux: ".bin" | 01:59 |
| __Serge__ | isn't it? | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | no... because windows has i diffrent api | 02:00 |
| __Serge__ | oh... ok... | 02:00 |
| __Serge__ | what is api? | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | no linux can have an executable with the extension .txt if you wanted | 02:00 |
| __Serge__ | WHAT???? | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | wikipedia can tell you a lot about api | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | linux doesnt need an extension to tell it what the file is | 02:01 |
| __Serge__ | okay... | 02:01 |
| Jester45 | many files are just the name | 02:01 |
| Jester45 | and you can make any file an executable... but a plain text file woudnt do anything | 02:02 |
| __Serge__ | interesting | 02:02 |
| __Serge__ | and | 02:03 |
| Jester45 | __Serge__, you should read a lot of wikipedia :) it knows a lot of stuff | 02:03 |
| __Serge__ | can i have something like IRC on ubuntu? | 02:03 |
| Jester45 | ... how do you think im talking to ya | 02:03 |
| __Serge__ | ok, i'll do it : ) | 02:03 |
| Jester45 | you can use gaim its preinstalled or xchat wich is more like mirc | 02:03 |
| __Serge__ | lol... of couse... : P | 02:03 |
| __Serge__ | well... | 02:04 |
| __Serge__ | thanx 4 all the info... | 02:04 |
| __Serge__ | oh wait wait | 02:04 |
| __Serge__ | is open office compatible with windows office? | 02:04 |
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| Jester45 | yes | 02:04 |
| __Serge__ | but | 02:04 |
| __Serge__ | if i make a .doc file with windows office and i open it with open office.... can open office read it? | 02:05 |
| Jester45 | i dont know about ms powerpoint i dont think you can make them but im pretty sure you can view them | 02:05 |
| Jester45 | yes | 02:05 |
| __Serge__ | really?... nice... | 02:05 |
| Jester45 | and i think mousepad or abiword can also | 02:05 |
| __Serge__ | wow... awesome... | 02:05 |
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| __Serge__ | then why i still have windows on my computer? lol... : ) | 02:06 |
| Jester45 | linux isnt totally apart from windows... or else less people will use it | 02:06 |
| __Serge__ | yes, i suppose... | 02:06 |
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| __Serge__ | what about the virus? | 02:07 |
| Jester45 | __Serge__, and remember if you want to find a program to do somthing use apt-cache search <description> | 02:07 |
| __Serge__ | does ubuntu have anti-virus? | 02:07 |
| __Serge__ | ok, thx... : ) | 02:07 |
| Jester45 | __Serge__, virus? what linux doesnt have viruses :) | 02:07 |
| Jester45 | or at least any that can do much | 02:07 |
| __Serge__ | what?? what do you mean? | 02:08 |
| Jester45 | and they are really really really rare | 02:08 |
| __Serge__ | "linux doesn't have viruses"?? | 02:08 |
| Jester45 | the most they can do is remove your config files and mabe your multimedia files | 02:08 |
| __Serge__ | hey, i read something... | 02:10 |
| __Serge__ | linux is unaffected by viruses... | 02:10 |
| __Serge__ | !!!!!! | 02:10 |
| __Serge__ | is that true? | 02:10 |
| zials | mostly true | 02:10 |
| __Serge__ | that's awesome!! | 02:10 |
| __Serge__ | i can't believe it... | 02:10 |
| Jester45 | there is clamav but thats is for scaning files so windows doesnt get it from linux | 02:11 |
| Jester45 | hehe | 02:11 |
| Jester45 | why do you think a lot of web servers run linux/unix/or a bsd | 02:11 |
| __Serge__ | i see... | 02:11 |
| __Serge__ | it's amazing... | 02:11 |
| zials | theres that, and most linux users don't run as root (equivalent to Admin in windows) | 02:11 |
| __Serge__ | right now i'm using an antiviros that uses like 100MB of RAM | 02:12 |
| __Serge__ | and a lot of CPU | 02:12 |
| zials | Norton? =p | 02:12 |
| __Serge__ | lol... ; ) | 02:12 |
| zials | Most recommend Avast *shrugs* | 02:12 |
| __Serge__ | and if i don't need an antivirus... then i'll have a lot more free cpu and ram... | 02:13 |
| Jester45 | norton is the worst and it cost money... kinda like windows | 02:13 |
| __Serge__ | yeah... | 02:13 |
| Jester45 | and your harddrive will seem faster becuase your not using ntfs | 02:13 |
| __Serge__ | now i understand why Tarantino made "Kill BILL"... | 02:13 |
| __Serge__ | lol... | 02:13 |
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| zials | heh | 02:14 |
| Jester45 | many of jokes on that | 02:14 |
| __Serge__ | lol... | 02:15 |
| __Serge__ | So... what has windows that x/k/ubuntu has not? | 02:15 |
| Jester45 | umm | 02:15 |
| Jester45 | thats a good one | 02:15 |
| __Serge__ | : P | 02:15 |
| Jester45 | some special programs that you cant get to run under wine | 02:16 |
| __Serge__ | like which one? | 02:16 |
| __Serge__ | aaahh.. | 02:16 |
| Jester45 | or... no free upgrades | 02:16 |
| __Serge__ | like notepad++, for example? | 02:16 |
| __Serge__ | i love that text editor | 02:16 |
| Jester45 | well thats use you look at the native linux things | 02:16 |
| Jester45 | windows has aero... o wait we got compiz-fusion linux wins | 02:17 |
| __Serge__ | : P | 02:17 |
| __Serge__ | but does ubuntu have any program that plays mp3? | 02:17 |
| __Serge__ | and wma? | 02:17 |
| Jester45 | yea you want a list | 02:18 |
| __Serge__ | lol... | 02:18 |
| __Serge__ | well, if u recommend me one or two i'll be happy... : ) | 02:18 |
| Jester45 | mplayer vlc xmms mpd+mpc amork | 02:18 |
| __Serge__ | nice.. | 02:18 |
| __Serge__ | what about emulators? | 02:19 |
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| __Serge__ | i love emulators | 02:19 |
| __Serge__ | for example | 02:19 |
| Jester45 | there are literaly 100's of media players in the repo | 02:19 |
| __Serge__ | can u play snes games in ubuntu? | 02:19 |
| Jester45 | yea | 02:19 |
| __Serge__ | really?? | 02:19 |
| Jester45 | let me get you the name | 02:19 |
| __Serge__ | please... | 02:19 |
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| Jester45 | as you would want to do if you install "apt-cache search snes" | 02:20 |
| __Serge__ | ok. | 02:20 |
| Jester45 | zsnes xmess gsness9x | 02:20 |
| __Serge__ | nice... thanx a lot... | 02:20 |
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| __Serge__ | i'll install x/k/ububtu as soon as possible... | 02:20 |
| Jester45 | :) | 02:21 |
| __Serge__ | is the best option... definetively... | 02:21 |
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| Jester45 | better watch out billy im out to get ya | 02:21 |
| __Serge__ | lol... u got me... | 02:21 |
| Jester45 | and you have a lot more control over your system | 02:22 |
| __Serge__ | little by little the penguin is winning terrain... : ) | 02:22 |
| Jester45 | if you dont like it remove it | 02:22 |
| __Serge__ | very nice, very simple... | 02:22 |
| __Serge__ | not like billy's windows... with a lot of unnecesary applications running hidden... | 02:22 |
| Jester45 | yep | 02:23 |
| Jester45 | and you even get control over the boot splash :) | 02:23 |
| __Serge__ | well, thanx a lot for all the info... : ) | 02:23 |
| __Serge__ | nice | 02:23 |
| Jester45 | and memory useage | 02:23 |
| __Serge__ | oh, one more thing.. | 02:23 |
| Jester45 | like me allmost of my ram is used before swap get toched | 02:24 |
| __Serge__ | you know, once i saw "transparent windows" on ubuntu... | 02:24 |
| Jester45 | yea... | 02:24 |
| __Serge__ | which one of the ubuntus flavors have that? | 02:24 |
| __Serge__ | i love that windows.. | 02:24 |
| Jester45 | all of them can get it | 02:24 |
| __Serge__ | and how? | 02:24 |
| Jester45 | ubuntu as the best support but thats only because thats the most used one | 02:25 |
| Jester45 | there is 2 ways to get good support | 02:25 |
| Jester45 | use beryl or use compiz | 02:25 |
| cellofellow | Xubuntu's default transparency is only transparency. You get more effects with Compiz. | 02:25 |
| Jester45 | look on some video sites for ubuntu+beryl | 02:25 |
| __Serge__ | all right.. | 02:25 |
| Jester45 | and its slower than compiz's | 02:26 |
| __Serge__ | then xubuntu is the one with that effect of transparency...? | 02:26 |
| Jester45 | ubuntu has it also | 02:26 |
| Jester45 | and kubuntu probly does | 02:26 |
| __Serge__ | really? where? | 02:26 |
| __Serge__ | i tried the live version of ubuntu 7.04 | 02:26 |
| __Serge__ | and i didn't find it.. | 02:27 |
| Jester45 | ubuntu also has some compiz features like the desktop cube and wiggly windows | 02:27 |
| Jester45 | umm | 02:27 |
| Jester45 | system -> effects i think | 02:27 |
| cellofellow | Ubuntu has Metacity, which I believe can make transparency. Xubuntu's XFWM4 and Kubuntu's KWin can I know. | 02:27 |
| __Serge__ | okay | 02:27 |
| BFTD | alt-F2 | 02:27 |
| BFTD | desktop-effects | 02:28 |
| cellofellow | I got both the later ones working. | 02:28 |
| cellofellow | latter* | 02:28 |
| __Serge__ | nice... very nice... : ) | 02:28 |
| __Serge__ | well, thank u very much for all... | 02:28 |
| __Serge__ | have to go... | 02:28 |
| __Serge__ | see you later.. | 02:28 |
| __Serge__ | : ) | 02:28 |
| __Serge__ | Byeee... | 02:28 |
| Jester45 | bye | 02:29 |
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| Jester45 | that guy had a lot of questions | 02:31 |
| Jester45 | but as long as he likes linux it doesnt really matter | 02:31 |
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| __Serge__ | Hello again... | 03:05 |
| __Serge__ | i have another question... | 03:05 |
| __Serge__ | i have ubuntu 7.04... what will happen after 10/08? | 03:05 |
| __Serge__ | i will not receive free updates? | 03:06 |
| __Serge__ | ? | 03:06 |
| __Serge__ | hello? | 03:07 |
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| __Serge__ | hellooo? | 03:07 |
| __Serge__ | ... | 03:07 |
| __Serge__ | ??? | 03:08 |
| Jester45 | ??? | 03:09 |
| Jester45 | ... | 03:09 |
| __Serge__ | hi.. : ) | 03:10 |
| Jester45 | hellooo? | 03:10 |
| __Serge__ | if i have ubuntu 7.04... what will happen after 10/08? | 03:10 |
| Jester45 | nothing | 03:10 |
| NKUMike | Don't we all die? | 03:10 |
| __Serge__ | lol... : P | 03:10 |
| __Serge__ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 | 03:10 |
| Jester45 | it will stay the same as 09/08 unless you do somthing to it | 03:11 |
| Jester45 | it will not be supported. is that what you are asking about | 03:12 |
| __Serge__ | yeah | 03:12 |
| __Serge__ | so... | 03:12 |
| __Serge__ | that means i will not get updates? | 03:12 |
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| __Serge__ | ? | 03:13 |
| __Serge__ | another question... | 03:13 |
| __Serge__ | does anyone know a c compiler for x/k/ubuntu? | 03:14 |
| BFTD | I need to figure out what the IP is on a computer on my network | 03:14 |
| Pumpernickel | __Serge__: No, it won't get updates. There is an upgrade path to supported versions. | 03:15 |
| Pumpernickel | As for a c compiler, see gcc. | 03:15 |
| __Serge__ | ok, thanx : ) | 03:15 |
| __Serge__ | but, you know | 03:16 |
| __Serge__ | today i tried the live version of ubuntu 7.04 and | 03:16 |
| __Serge__ | i searched a c compiler with "add/remove" | 03:17 |
| BFTD | ? | 03:17 |
| __Serge__ | and i didn't find anyone... | 03:17 |
| __Serge__ | did i do something wrong? | 03:17 |
| Jester45 | __Serge__, you might not of selected the show all options a better and faster way is apt-cache search c compiler | 03:18 |
| Jester45 | but i told you 3 times eariler it was gcc | 03:18 |
| __Serge__ | yes but | 03:18 |
| __Serge__ | i knew something else | 03:19 |
| __Serge__ | gcc | 03:19 |
| __Serge__ | is already with ubuntu | 03:19 |
| __Serge__ | ...how do i use it? | 03:19 |
| Jester45 | man gcc | 03:19 |
| __Serge__ | man? | 03:20 |
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| Jester45 | its a program | 03:21 |
| __Serge__ | aahh... for "manual"... | 03:21 |
| Jester45 | yep your best friend | 03:21 |
| __Serge__ | yes... i'm reading an ubuntu tutorial here... : ) | 03:21 |
| __Serge__ | sorry... please don't hate me... i'm just a newbie here... : P | 03:21 |
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| Jester45 | its ok | 03:22 |
| __Serge__ | : ) | 03:22 |
| Jester45 | normal question we answer | 03:22 |
| __Serge__ | do u know any other c compiler (not so basic like gcc)? maybe like dev-cpp? | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | apt-cache search it | 03:24 |
| __Serge__ | alll right | 03:25 |
| Pumpernickel | Err, gcc can hardly be described as 'basic'. | 03:25 |
| Jester45 | Pumpernickel, please explain :) | 03:26 |
| __Serge__ | yes yes... u r right... | 03:26 |
| __Serge__ | but i mean | 03:26 |
| __Serge__ | some compiler with an interface... like dev-cpp... | 03:26 |
| __Serge__ | not a command compiler | 03:27 |
| Pumpernickel | That would be an IDE you're looking for, then. | 03:27 |
| __Serge__ | exactly... that was the word i was looking for... : P | 03:27 |
| __Serge__ | i want an IDE : ) | 03:27 |
| Pumpernickel | You might find Anjuta interesting. | 03:28 |
| Pumpernickel | If not, there are alternatives. | 03:28 |
| __Serge__ | mmm... anjuta... ok, thx : ) | 03:29 |
| __Serge__ | and | 03:29 |
| __Serge__ | do u know notepad++? | 03:29 |
| Pumpernickel | Nope. | 03:29 |
| __Serge__ | : ( | 03:29 |
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| Pumpernickel | Hmm... if you're looking for something similar, you might want to check out Scite. | 03:31 |
| __Serge__ | hey... yes! i remember something called scintilla... | 03:32 |
| __Serge__ | a text editor | 03:32 |
| __Serge__ | with specific language features... | 03:32 |
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| cellofellow | __Serge__: Lots of text editors use Scintilla. Like Dr. Python for Python for example. | 03:35 |
| __Serge__ | i see... | 03:36 |
| cellofellow | There's a nice one for Winblows called Notepad++. | 03:36 |
| __Serge__ | exactly!! | 03:36 |
| __Serge__ | i love that program... | 03:36 |
| cellofellow | \ | 03:36 |
| __Serge__ | and i'm looking something similar for ubuntu | 03:36 |
| __Serge__ | do u know someone? | 03:36 |
| __Serge__ | ? | 03:40 |
| Jester45 | scite is nice | 03:43 |
| cellofellow | SciTE is nicer in Linux than Windows. More like Notepad++. | 03:44 |
| __Serge__ | really? | 03:45 |
| __Serge__ | that's cool! | 03:45 |
| cellofellow | or you could do apt-cache search scintilla and see what comes up. | 03:45 |
| __Serge__ | that's what i'm looking for... | 03:45 |
| cellofellow | It's configured with text files, which I've found odd. | 03:45 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow, programs configured in text files? how is that odd | 03:49 |
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| cellofellow | Jester45: GRAPHICAL programs configured in text files. | 04:00 |
| cellofellow | What's that card-interface slot that's bigger than a PCI and found in older computers called? | 04:01 |
| cellofellow | anyone? | 04:02 |
| NKUMike | Does one have to set up samba before trying to mount a windows network drive? | 04:08 |
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| Jester45 | cellofellow, agp? | 04:13 |
| Jester45 | NKUMike, yes i think so, that way you can comunicate with windows | 04:14 |
| Pumpernickel | cellofellow: ISA | 04:14 |
| Pumpernickel | Or just an earlier version of PCI that had larger connectors. | 04:14 |
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| phryde | help | 04:28 |
| phryde | anyone awake? | 04:29 |
| Pumpernickel | !anyone | 04:29 |
| phryde | !anyone | 04:29 |
| phryde | heh | 04:29 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 04:29 |
| Pumpernickel | ...and the bot is dead. | 04:29 |
| phryde | right | 04:29 |
| phryde | ok | 04:29 |
| phryde | nvidia drivers... can't figure out why they keep uninstalling themselves when i reboot | 04:30 |
| phryde | everytime i've got to reboot i've got to reinstall them | 04:30 |
| phryde | very frustrating situation | 04:30 |
| Pumpernickel | Did you use the package in the repository, or another installation method? | 04:31 |
| phryde | i purged all the repo ones and used the one off the site | 04:31 |
| phryde | i've tried everything | 04:32 |
| phryde | i think it may have something to do with the filesystem | 04:32 |
| phryde | like it's not being written | 04:32 |
| phryde | it's reiserfs | 04:33 |
| cellofellow | is there a way to query how much memory a video card has? | 04:33 |
| phryde | yep | 04:34 |
| Jester45 | lspci then google the model | 04:34 |
| Jester45 | :) | 04:34 |
| phryde | LoL | 04:34 |
| phryde | yep | 04:34 |
| cellofellow | figures | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | im sure there is a way with opengl | 04:44 |
| cellofellow | was trying that, and wanted to know if there was an easy way. | 04:44 |
| phryde | sounds retarded Pumpernickel ? | 04:44 |
| phryde | nvclock will tell you if it's nvidia | 04:44 |
| phryde | i think | 04:44 |
| phryde | dmesg | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | rovclock for ati :) | 04:44 |
| phryde | look on the box | 04:44 |
| Pumpernickel | phryde: Nope, the driver is loaded to a temp fs at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile, assuming you're using the Ubuntu setup. | 04:44 |
| Pumpernickel | Which you aren't. | 04:44 |
| phryde | the x error is something like the versions arent matching | 04:44 |
| Pumpernickel | That would be because there's a mismatch between what's available for the kernel and what's available for xorg. | 04:44 |
| phryde | right but it installs fine... doesn't error until reboot | 04:44 |
| Pumpernickel | It really will save you a lot of bother if you use the driver from the repository. | 04:44 |
| phryde | it does the same thing | 04:44 |
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| phryde | so long as i use nvidia in xorg.conf it does it | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | and it upgrades from the repo | 04:44 |
| phryde | i'd do that if i could... i only dl'd the one off the site to try and fix it | 04:44 |
| phryde | maybe blacklist the kernel one? | 04:44 |
| phryde | it's got to be filesystem... when i edit files it tells me it's readonly | 04:44 |
| phryde | but it's mounted rw | 04:44 |
| phryde | should have never put / on reiserfs | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | phryde, my / is reiser | 04:44 |
| phryde | it doesn't get corrupt? | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | nope | 04:44 |
| phryde | where other than fstab is the ro/rw attributes applied to a fs? | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | what version do you have | 04:44 |
| phryde | ? | 04:44 |
| phryde | dunno | 04:45 |
| Jester45 | do you have reiserfsv3 or v4 | 04:45 |
| phryde | 3 | 04:45 |
| Jester45 | hehe | 04:45 |
| phryde | i think | 04:45 |
| Jester45 | v3 isnt that much faster than other fs | 04:45 |
| Jester45 | at least to me | 04:45 |
| phryde | yea i don't find it fast at all | 04:45 |
| phryde | you use anything other than defaults in fstab? | 04:47 |
| Jester45 | notail,errors=remount-ro | 04:49 |
| phryde | 0 2 ? | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | 0 1 | 04:52 |
| phryde | leave defaults? | 04:52 |
| phryde | or is that wrong? | 04:53 |
| Jester45 | my options are notail,errors=remount-ro | 04:53 |
| phryde | ok | 04:53 |
| phryde | on just /? or all of em? | 04:54 |
| Jester45 | on just / | 04:54 |
| phryde | ok | 04:54 |
| phryde | gonna reboot... brb | 04:54 |
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| Jester45 | why do people reboot for this stuff? | 05:00 |
| NKUMike | Would anyone like to hold my hand and walk me through vnc setup? | 05:01 |
| Jester45 | ubotu will | 05:03 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about will - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:03 |
| Jester45 | !nvc | 05:03 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about nvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:03 |
| Jester45 | !vnc | 05:03 |
| ubotu | VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 05:03 |
| NKUMike | *hand still empty | 05:03 |
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| NKUMike | wow | 05:05 |
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| phryde | heh | 05:17 |
| phryde | might have been the problem | 05:17 |
| phryde | kernel ppanicked | 05:17 |
| phryde | time to upgrade to 7.04 anyways | 05:18 |
| phryde | nyuk nyuk nyuk | 05:18 |
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| phryde | looks a lot nicer | 05:19 |
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| Jester45 | phryde, whats wrong? | 05:44 |
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| gerro | stevej: for /usr/NX/etc/node.cfg do you have EnableUnencryptedSession="0" set? You were giving details before about using that application so was curious | 05:57 |
| Jester45 | can your grep a column of a pipe? | 06:02 |
| Jester45 | nevermind | 06:05 |
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| gerro | xub xub yo! | 07:10 |
| gerro | where everybody at? | 07:10 |
| BFTD | ? | 07:10 |
| gerro | Jester45: you get that piping working? | 07:10 |
| BFTD | not sure | 07:10 |
| Jester45 | yea | 07:10 |
| Jester45 | well | 07:11 |
| gerro | what were you trying to do anyway | 07:11 |
| Jester45 | no but i got a work around | 07:11 |
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| Jester45 | i was trying to run somthing each time the clock got to 1 o clock | 07:12 |
| gerro | ah cron is good for that | 07:13 |
| Jester45 | yea... i cant get it to work | 07:13 |
| gerro | perhaps you disabled the system service your using? | 07:13 |
| Jester45 | i dont think so, tried on 2 machines | 07:13 |
| gerro | that 24 hour clock thing might be messing it up | 07:14 |
| gerro | doubt it though seeing as what time it is now | 07:14 |
| Jester45 | messing what up | 07:14 |
| Jester45 | the script uses date +%k | 07:15 |
| gerro | your timer | 07:15 |
| gerro | could you pm me the script? | 07:15 |
| Jester45 | if that = 01 then run wget http://site.com/backups | 07:15 |
| gerro | that equals 1 | 07:16 |
| gerro | no 0 before it | 07:16 |
| Jester45 | you sure | 07:16 |
| gerro | yes | 07:16 |
| Jester45 | k | 07:16 |
| Jester45 | now to get automated backups | 07:17 |
| Jester45 | if i wanted the output file name to be a variable shouldnt i use | 07:18 |
| Jester45 | /backups/'$var'.tar.gz | 07:19 |
| BFTD | I wrote a python script that made backups for me | 07:21 |
| gerro | hello? | 07:22 |
| Jester45 | hi | 07:22 |
| gerro | maybe this /backups/$(var).tar.gz maybe? | 07:22 |
| gerro | sorry I put the / first and irc client recognized it as command | 07:22 |
| Jester45 | me to | 07:22 |
| BFTD | wow | 07:22 |
| BFTD | I updated my kernel | 07:22 |
| BFTD | and I get a kernel panic | 07:22 |
| Jester45 | on the /backups/'$var'.tar.gz | 07:22 |
| gerro | yeah what difference between ' " ) I have no clue | 07:23 |
| gerro | all I know is they grope commands with money | 07:23 |
| Jester45 | whats ubuntu's kernel at | 07:23 |
| Jester45 | 2.6.16? | 07:24 |
| gerro | no! | 07:24 |
| gerro | 2.6.20-16 | 07:24 |
| gerro | 16 has lot of bugs | 07:24 |
| Jester45 | yea thats what i ment | 07:25 |
| BFTD | 2.6.21.3 | 07:25 |
| gerro | what custom kerenl you use bftd? | 07:25 |
| gerro | what does bftd stand for anyway? big fried turkey dinner? | 07:25 |
| BFTD | gerro its not, it was updated | 07:26 |
| Jester45 | BFTD, i didnt think you used custom kernels | 07:26 |
| BFTD | I do | 07:27 |
| BFTD | but it takes to long to compile on this laptop | 07:27 |
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| BFTD | Jester45 what steps do you go through to compile your kernel? | 07:36 |
| Jester45 | y | 07:36 |
| BFTD | because I forgot how to | 07:36 |
| Jester45 | google... im reading on why to use a live dvd over a live cd | 07:36 |
| BFTD | ok | 07:37 |
| Jester45 | they should make a livecd defalted onto a livedvd | 07:38 |
| Jester45 | so that its faster | 07:38 |
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| Jester45 | looks like it isnt | 07:48 |
| Jester45 | i guess the cd drive is just to slow | 07:48 |
| BFTD | DVD drives only go up to 16X | 07:48 |
| BFTD | Cd drives can get up to 64X | 07:48 |
| Jester45 | its 72x now | 07:51 |
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| Jester45 | BFTD, and also dvd 1x is 1.32mb/sec cd 1x is ~150kb/s | 08:03 |
| Jester45 | dvd1x == cd 9x | 08:03 |
| gerro | dvds are too expensive though | 08:11 |
| gerro | and large | 08:11 |
| BFTD | hrm | 08:14 |
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| Chikubu | how can i see what (and maybe remove) the dameons that are starting with pc? | 09:17 |
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| === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | ||
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| pinoy1 | hello... where could i find in a xubuntu notebook file system the icons for openoffice? i'm making panel items but can't find the openoffice icons... | 11:44 |
| newuser00 | noobest question... whats that small circle in the left corner of the title bar of the windows in xubuntu? | 11:45 |
| pinoy1 | newuser00: i'm also curious about that "o" | 11:46 |
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| newuser00 | pinoyl: :P | 11:48 |
| newuser00 | oh nos... nobody knows the answer O.O | 11:51 |
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| newuser00 | (GAIM crashed) | 11:51 |
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| newuser00 | whats the file browser for xubuntu? | 12:14 |
| tsubasaleguedin | thunar | 12:17 |
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| newuser00 | tsubasalaguedin: thank you :) | 12:18 |
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| demarco | where can i download xubuntu | 12:19 |
| newuser00 | is it possible in thunar to see the path to the folder your viewing as text and not as buttons? | 12:20 |
| gerro | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso | 12:20 |
| gerro | demarco: what operating system you going to use to burn it though? | 12:20 |
| hyper_ch | demarco: you want live or alternate version? | 12:20 |
| hyper_ch | demarco: you can also use torrent | 12:20 |
| demarco | I am using sabayon right now | 12:21 |
| gerro | demarco: ah good just burn a bootable image then | 12:21 |
| demarco | its too heavy duty for my machine ...I need something light | 12:21 |
| tsubasaleguedin | xubuntu is a good choice | 12:22 |
| hyper_ch | for installation the alternate cd is recommended | 12:22 |
| demarco | not recourse heavy | 12:22 |
| gerro | demarco: perhaps fluxbuntu or damnsmall? | 12:22 |
| tsubasaleguedin | xbuntu + compiz fusion | 12:22 |
| gerro | I think under 64mb the alternate install won't work either | 12:22 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: who needs compiz/beryl.... | 12:22 |
| gerro | I don't know if network based install will work either with such low memory I have 60.5mb ram on one comp | 12:22 |
| tsubasaleguedin | hyper_ch: ring switcher dont have any challenger without compiz | 12:23 |
| hyper_ch | 64mb ram is even for xubuntu very little | 12:23 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: installed it once on an ancient notebook with 64mb ram... it was slooooooow | 12:23 |
| tsubasaleguedin | for sure | 12:23 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: ring switcher? | 12:23 |
| gerro | demarco: try a distro with fluxbox or icewm as desktop manager and you should get good results | 12:23 |
| tsubasaleguedin | yep the multiwindow switcher | 12:24 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: that is? | 12:24 |
| tsubasaleguedin | a multi windows switcher | 12:24 |
| demarco | thanks gerro | 12:24 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: and that is? | 12:24 |
| tsubasaleguedin | try beryl and use your mouse at top right | 12:25 |
| gerro | demarco: how much ram and cpu you got? what processor? ram clockrate? | 12:25 |
| tsubasaleguedin | or compiz | 12:25 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: why don't you just say what it is? | 12:25 |
| tsubasaleguedin | a say you | 12:25 |
| tsubasaleguedin | I | 12:25 |
| tsubasaleguedin | you can view all window for switch between it | 12:26 |
| tsubasaleguedin | a multi window switcher | 12:26 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: still no clue what it is... but seems nothing I need | 12:26 |
| gerro | tsubasaleguedin: I wuv u | 12:26 |
| demarco | does xubuntu do like sabayon beryl | 12:26 |
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| gerro | demarco: xubuntu doesn't have beryl | 12:27 |
| gerro | demarco: you can set it up with beryl though | 12:27 |
| demarco | fully functional | 12:27 |
| gerro | might want to test out that compiz fusion though | 12:27 |
| tsubasaleguedin | i take a screen | 12:27 |
| demarco | ok | 12:27 |
| gerro | yes fully functional | 12:27 |
| demarco | what ..do apt-get install beryl ? | 12:28 |
| gerro | hyper_ch: is compiz fusion in the repositories? | 12:29 |
| tsubasaleguedin | http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=6hcg5k4g.png | 12:29 |
| tsubasaleguedin | you can see the windows switcher | 12:29 |
| gerro | demarco: yeah try apt-get beryl I guess | 12:29 |
| tsubasaleguedin | is a basical function of compiz/beryl | 12:29 |
| tsubasaleguedin | but very functional and ergonomic | 12:30 |
| gerro | demarco: but you really should read up on it like google around "beryl xubuntu" | 12:30 |
| gerro | demarco: you want a lite system so you can run beryl right? | 12:30 |
| tsubasaleguedin | beryl doesnt exist anymore | 12:30 |
| demarco | I will do that ...thanks guys | 12:30 |
| tsubasaleguedin | gerro: i ran a light system on a core2duo with 1gb | 12:30 |
| tsubasaleguedin | light system doesnt mean a weak system | 12:30 |
| gerro | tsubasaleguedin: yes so does the respository have its predecessor yet? | 12:31 |
| tsubasaleguedin | i see where i have find it | 12:31 |
| gerro | tsubasaleguedin: he wants a system with less flashy eyecandy so he can insert his own | 12:31 |
| gerro | its quite common | 12:31 |
| tsubasaleguedin | deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy | 12:32 |
| tsubasaleguedin | deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy | 12:32 |
| tsubasaleguedin | for the repository | 12:32 |
| gerro | umm ok | 12:32 |
| tsubasaleguedin | now you need the key | 12:32 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: it's nothing I need | 12:32 |
| tsubasaleguedin | http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/dists/feisty/eyecandy/index.html | 12:32 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasaleguedin: but thx for the screeny | 12:34 |
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| newuser00 | is it possible in thunar to view the path to the folder your browsing as text and not as buttons? | 12:47 |
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| newuser00 | yes it is ^_^ i just found out how to do it | 01:00 |
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| mrmonday | on the xubuntu site, it says you only need 1.5gb of free hard drive space, does this include swap? | 02:38 |
| mrmonday | would it run with 2gb of hard drive space? | 02:38 |
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| b00t | hello every1! | 04:32 |
| b00t | i cant seem to install Xubuntu over my pc! | 04:32 |
| b00t | could any1 help out plz | 04:32 |
| stevej | What seems to be the problem? | 04:32 |
| b00t | i cant seem to boot off the cd | 04:32 |
| b00t | i downloaded the iso off of the xubuntu site.. i checked its hash numbers (it compared perfectly) | 04:32 |
| stevej | Can you boot of of any other CDs? | 04:32 |
| b00t | i tried burning the image using nero! then tried it with infrarecorder | 04:32 |
| b00t | yes i can | 04:32 |
| stevej | Do you have access to another machine that you can test the CD in? | 04:32 |
| b00t | yes | 04:32 |
| b00t | same thing | 04:32 |
| b00t | i even thought my cd rw is faulty! i moved the ISO to my laptop and tried burning again.. same thing! | 04:32 |
| b00t | i thought the iso pack is faulty! so i downloaded from another mirror.. same issue | 04:32 |
| stevej | I've seen issues with some CD readers not being able to boot from some types of burned CDs, usually I have trouble with the blanks that have a light green color. | 04:32 |
| b00t | hmm | 04:32 |
| b00t | i tried a different type | 04:32 |
| stevej | But if you can write to it, that writer at the least should be able to burn it. | 04:32 |
| b00t | i first used LG cd | 04:32 |
| b00t | then i switched to sony | 04:32 |
| vidd_laptop | b00t, what speed did you burn? | 04:32 |
| b00t | 8 | 04:32 |
| vidd_laptop | too fast.... | 04:32 |
| b00t | cant burn lower than tht | 04:32 |
| b00t | thts tthe minimum | 04:32 |
| vidd_laptop | you cant burn @ 4x? | 04:32 |
| b00t | no | 04:32 |
| b00t | the minimum allowed is 8 | 04:32 |
| vidd_laptop | allowed by what? | 04:32 |
| b00t | by cd rw | 04:32 |
| b00t | in nero the minimum is 8 | 04:32 |
| b00t | in infrarecorder i chose 1.. but it burned @ 8x | 04:32 |
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| vidd_laptop | what format type did you choose? | 04:33 |
| b00t | format? | 04:33 |
| b00t | oh | 04:33 |
| b00t | image | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | .... | 04:33 |
| b00t | wht do u mean with "format" | 04:33 |
| b00t | am a newbie.. | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | put the burned cd in you window's drive.... | 04:33 |
| b00t | i did | 04:33 |
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| vidd_laptop | what is listed on it? | 04:33 |
| b00t | xubuntu 7.04 i38 | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | can you read the files? | 04:33 |
| b00t | yes of course | 04:33 |
| b00t | i can explore the cd normaly | 04:33 |
| b00t | though it wont autostart (as it should if it were a bootable cd) | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | did you have the boot cd thing active when you burned in nero? | 04:33 |
| b00t | um | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | (its been a LONG time since i burned iso's in windows) | 04:33 |
| stevej | Autostart and bootable don't have anything to do with each other. | 04:33 |
| zials | ... how much ram do you have? | 04:33 |
| b00t | 256 | 04:33 |
| b00t | vidd_laptop i didnt get ur question | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | nero has a setting that says "make cd bootable" | 04:33 |
| R[a] ndom | vidd_laptop, if it was an iso, you shouldnt have to do anything | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | that MUST be active to have the cd bootable | 04:33 |
| b00t | exactly | 04:33 |
| b00t | its an iso i downloaded it from a french mirror from the xubuntu site | 04:33 |
| vidd_laptop | R[a] ndom, this is windows he's burning from...not linux | 04:33 |
| R[a] ndom | yes. | 04:33 |
| b00t | i even downloaded another one from another mirror just for the chance of being faulty | 04:33 |
| R[a] ndom | otherwise who would use nero? | 04:33 |
| R[a] ndom | b00t, check md5 if youre worried about that | 04:33 |
| b00t | i did | 04:34 |
| b00t | same sum | 04:34 |
| stevej | Nero is available for Linux, for some reason or another. | 04:34 |
| b00t | i checked it 3 times allready | 04:34 |
| R[a] ndom | other cds do boot tho? | 04:34 |
| R[a] ndom | its not bios settings? | 04:34 |
| b00t | yees of course | 04:34 |
| b00t | everything boots up perfectly | 04:34 |
| vidd_laptop | and from my experience with nero, if you make image from nero and you DONT select make bootable, you get a perfectly formed, non-bootable disk | 04:34 |
| b00t | its just the xubuntu cds | 04:34 |
| b00t | vidd_laptop i thought its a nero problem so i downloaded infrarecorder (as instructed in the xubuntu iso burning procedure) and burned with it | 04:35 |
| b00t | same issue | 04:35 |
| vidd_laptop | and you still cant burn at a slower speed then 8x? | 04:35 |
| R[a] ndom | I dont think I can on my drive | 04:36 |
| b00t | yup | 04:36 |
| b00t | the cd rw has minimum of 8 and a max of 52 | 04:36 |
| b00t | and my dvd rw has a minimum of 16 | 04:36 |
| vidd_laptop | the cd drive that is READING it....what speed is it? | 04:36 |
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| mrmonday | !xubuntu | 04:37 |
| ubotu | xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels | 04:37 |
| b00t | 8/52 | 04:37 |
| vidd_laptop | same drive? | 04:37 |
| b00t | nop | 04:37 |
| vidd_laptop | try it in the same drive that is burning it | 04:37 |
| mrmonday | what is the minimum harddrive size for xubuntu? | 04:38 |
| b00t | i did... same thing | 04:38 |
| mrmonday | it says 1.5gigs is needed to be free on the site | 04:38 |
| mrmonday | does that include swap? | 04:38 |
| vidd_laptop | mrmonday, then 1.5 gig | 04:38 |
| R[a] ndom | I wouldn't want to use a 1.5 gig ubuntu install tho | 04:38 |
| mrmonday | does it include swap? | 04:38 |
| R[a] ndom | xubuntu | 04:38 |
| R[a] ndom | whatever | 04:38 |
| R[a] ndom | mrmonday, I would lean towards no. | 04:38 |
| vidd_laptop | mrmonday, yes | 04:38 |
| R[a] ndom | ok | 04:39 |
| R[a] ndom | there you go | 04:39 |
| mrmonday | it's only gonna be in a vm | 04:39 |
| R[a] ndom | vidd_laptop, how big is your / partition? | 04:39 |
| mrmonday | so I can do screen shots | 04:39 |
| vidd_laptop | R[a] ndom, i had it on a 1 gig part | 04:39 |
| R[a] ndom | really. | 04:39 |
| R[a] ndom | wow | 04:39 |
| R[a] ndom | mine is 6gb and full | 04:39 |
| vidd_laptop | with 512 swap | 04:39 |
| b00t | i usually set it / on a 15 gb partition just in case i wanted to download stuff.. | 04:40 |
| vidd_laptop | it was slow as all get-out | 04:40 |
| b00t | even though 5 gb would b cool | 04:40 |
| R[a] ndom | VMs only use as much space as they need anyway | 04:40 |
| vidd_laptop | mrmonday, it is RECOMENDED that u use 5GB or more | 04:40 |
| b00t | anyway... so wht may b the prob! | 04:40 |
| R[a] ndom | so you could make the paritions ten gajillion gigs, and it wouldnt make a difference :P | 04:40 |
| vidd_laptop | b00t, idn | 04:41 |
| b00t | hmm | 04:41 |
| R[a] ndom | b00t, I dunno man. Other bootable cds burnt wiht this burner, and tried on the other drive.. do they work? | 04:41 |
| b00t | u and me both.. this is so annoying | 04:41 |
| mrmonday | I have used 3 for ubuntu, so I'll go for that | 04:41 |
| b00t | R[a] ndom yes perfectly | 04:41 |
| stevej | You could, but then the flux capacitor would explode. | 04:41 |
| R[a] ndom | oh. | 04:41 |
| R[a] ndom | and md5 checks out? | 04:41 |
| b00t | yes | 04:41 |
| b00t | thts whts making me crazy | 04:41 |
| R[a] ndom | alternate install cd? | 04:41 |
| b00t | how would the md5 checks out if its a prob with it (since other OS cds boots up ) | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | which cd, normal or alternate? | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | both? | 04:42 |
| b00t | normal | 04:42 |
| b00t | just normal | 04:42 |
| vidd_laptop | b00t, try to get the alt | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | try the alt | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | I prefer it anyway | 04:42 |
| b00t | i dunno the difference between these 2 but i know tht i downloaded the "normal" one | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | its just not a live cd | 04:42 |
| vidd_laptop | or the netboot.... | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | b00t, the alternate has no live cd, just text based installation | 04:42 |
| b00t | um | 04:42 |
| R[a] ndom | its easy tho | 04:42 |
| b00t | oh ok | 04:43 |
| b00t | same size?! | 04:43 |
| b00t | its gonna take me forever to download here (am on isdn right now) | 04:43 |
| R[a] ndom | could netboot as vidd_laptop said | 04:43 |
| vidd_laptop | b00t, then get the mini-iso.... | 04:43 |
| vidd_laptop | http://www.vidd.us/downloads | 04:43 |
| b00t | vidd_laptop i thought of doing so.. but the mini iso would wipe clean the HDD and i want linux to b dual boot with xp | 04:43 |
| vidd_laptop | so set it to dual boot | 04:44 |
| R[a] ndom | the mini doesnt have the partitioning jibberjab? | 04:44 |
| vidd_laptop | of course it does | 04:44 |
| b00t | weird | 04:44 |
| b00t | i tried it b4 | 04:44 |
| b00t | it wiped it clean | 04:44 |
| b00t | a DSL ! | 04:44 |
| vidd_laptop | b00t, get the ubuntu mini-iso | 04:45 |
| vidd_laptop | on my downloads page | 04:45 |
| b00t | ok i will | 04:45 |
| R[a] ndom | why from your page? you haxoring him? ;) | 04:45 |
| vidd_laptop | ???/ | 04:45 |
| b00t | anyway | 04:45 |
| b00t | whts it about! | 04:45 |
| b00t | i mean i noticed its just 8.8 mb | 04:46 |
| b00t | ! | 04:46 |
| R[a] ndom | yeah its really small | 04:46 |
| b00t | thts new news to me! | 04:46 |
| b00t | i thought the smallest is 50 mb | 04:46 |
| vidd_laptop | it includes the installer and stuff to get your network running | 04:46 |
| b00t | oh ok | 04:46 |
| vidd_laptop | everything else it gets from the internet | 04:47 |
| b00t | oh thts cool enough | 04:47 |
| b00t | anyway | 04:47 |
| b00t | thanks u guys for helping out | 04:47 |
| b00t | i appreciate it | 04:47 |
| b00t | gtg now... gf's nagging | 04:47 |
| vidd_laptop | R[a] ndom, i send ppl to my site because i know where it is.... | 04:48 |
| vidd_laptop | it took me forever digging thru the archives to find it! | 04:48 |
| R[a] ndom | the mini iso? | 04:48 |
| vidd_laptop | yeah | 04:48 |
| R[a] ndom | huh I found it on google in 2 secs to see that it really was 8 megs | 04:49 |
| R[a] ndom | as I was surprised it was that small too | 04:49 |
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| vidd_laptop | thats why they call it mini! | 04:50 |
| R[a] ndom | hah indeed. | 04:50 |
| vidd_laptop | i think they have a way to get it to work on floppies and a usb stick...but i never tried it | 04:50 |
| vidd_laptop | but then again....these usb sticks will soon be able to hold an entire live dvd | 04:51 |
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| hyper_ch | jesus, the swedish police blocks pirate bay | 05:04 |
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| TheSheep | hyper_ch: how many nanoseconds of downtime this time? ;) | 05:05 |
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| hyper_ch | TheSheep: the police says it's child porn on there and puts in on their blacklist which a lot ISPs in Sweden respect | 05:06 |
| TheSheep | right :) | 05:06 |
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| hyper_ch | TheSheep: can you put also some on the road just outside my apartment ;) | 05:07 |
| hyper_ch | I wonder how they block it... is there rerouting of the IP or the domain? | 05:08 |
| hyper_ch | He, who will give up freedom in order to get security will in the end loose both | 05:09 |
| TheSheep | I wonder how much collateral damage will they accept? | 05:09 |
| hyper_ch | I dunno | 05:10 |
| Pumpernickel | It's just a DNS redirect. | 05:11 |
| Pumpernickel | The police suggest it, some ISPs apply the filter to their DNS servers. | 05:12 |
| TheSheep | and people swarm to the ISPs that don't do that ;) | 05:12 |
| hyper_ch | so if the don't alter the IP you just add more dns servers | 05:13 |
| hyper_ch | anyone watching/listening LiveEarth concert? | 05:15 |
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| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, need some DNS server ip's from the USA? | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: I don't trust US-dns servers ^^ | 05:24 |
| vidd_laptop | lol | 05:24 |
| vidd_laptop | why not? | 05:24 |
| hyper_ch | hmmm, Bush, countless agencies, and and and ;) | 05:28 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: want a polish one? | 05:28 |
| hyper_ch | I'm not in Sweden :) I have good dns servers here :) | 05:28 |
| hyper_ch | but I'd prefer a polish over a US one | 05:29 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, no offence taken .... i might consider it myself..... | 05:29 |
| vidd_laptop | =] | 05:29 |
| vidd_laptop | TheSheep, can ya post 2 for me? | 05:29 |
| TheSheep | vidd_laptop: 150.254.65.21, 150.254.78.2 | 05:30 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: hmmm, 83.133.126.175 (my server in Germany) | 05:30 |
| vidd_laptop | ty | 05:31 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: it has a dns server isntalled but I don't know if you can use it just like that (never tried) | 05:32 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: do you have a ded. IP? | 05:32 |
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| vidd_laptop | ded? | 05:32 |
| vidd_laptop | for my web site? | 05:33 |
| vidd_laptop | like static ? | 05:33 |
| hyper_ch | no, at home | 05:33 |
| hyper_ch | yes, dedicated ip | 05:33 |
| hyper_ch | static ip | 05:33 |
| hyper_ch | from your isp | 05:33 |
| vidd_laptop | no....my home is on a dhcp channel | 05:33 |
| vidd_laptop | they want 25$US a month for a static IP | 05:34 |
| hyper_ch | oh well, could have given you otherwise proxy access ;) | 05:34 |
| hyper_ch | that's less than a decent inet connection costs here ;) | 05:34 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, my server has a static IP | 05:34 |
| hyper_ch | :) | 05:35 |
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| hyper_ch | your server? | 05:36 |
| addyk | /leave | 05:37 |
| addyk | /leave #xubuntu | 05:37 |
| addyk | ?? | 05:37 |
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| addyk | What's happening? I can't see the user list... | 05:37 |
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| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, my server....vidd.us | 05:37 |
| hyper_ch | yeah, forgot :) | 05:38 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, that is 25$US JUST for the static ip....plus the cost of the connection | 05:39 |
| hyper_ch | for $ 50 you get a 10mbit/1mbit connection here | 05:39 |
| hyper_ch | dunno if the offer static ips additionally | 05:39 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, is that guaranteed bandwith? or max throughput? | 05:40 |
| hyper_ch | max throughput | 05:41 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: but normally it's gets about to that range | 05:41 |
| addyk | @botsnack | 05:43 |
| vidd_laptop | hrm....tab auto-complete does not seem to work when you sudo su.... | 05:43 |
| vidd_laptop | !botsnack | addyk | 05:44 |
| ubotu | addyk: Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 05:44 |
| addyk | Hmm, doesn't work :) Asima would have responded :) | 05:44 |
| addyk | :)) | 05:44 |
| addyk | lol :) | 05:44 |
| vidd_laptop | wrong symbol | 05:44 |
| addyk | thanks vidd_laptop | 05:44 |
| addyk | Yeah... | 05:44 |
| addyk | in another channel it would have been with a @ :) anyway :D hello xubuntu :) | 05:44 |
| hyper_ch | hello addyk | 05:49 |
| hyper_ch | addyk: all *buntu* channels us ! to issue commands to the bot | 05:49 |
| addyk | Oh... | 05:50 |
| addyk | Hmm... | 05:50 |
| addyk | lemme check something :) | 05:50 |
| TheSheep | addyk: you can also just /msg the bot | 05:51 |
| addyk | (06:51:02 PM) addyk: @botsnack | 05:51 |
| addyk | (06:51:04 PM) Asima: Thank You for the Chocolate addyk! I love you. :) | 05:51 |
| TheSheep | (which is preferred anyways) | 05:51 |
| addyk | That's on fluxbuntu :) | 05:51 |
| addyk | I know... sorry... | 05:51 |
| TheSheep | addyk: don't apologise | 05:52 |
| TheSheep | addyk: you didn't do anything wrong... yet ;) | 05:52 |
| hyper_ch | TheSheep: if everybody had only pmed the bot I wouldn't know today that there is one :) | 05:52 |
| addyk | lol :) | 05:53 |
| addyk | Thanks guys :) | 05:53 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: well, the idea is to use public commands when it's meant for... well, the public | 05:53 |
| hyper_ch | TheSheep: how does one know the difference? ;) | 05:53 |
| hyper_ch | addyk: yw | 05:54 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: use the forc^H^H^H^Hcommon sense | 05:54 |
| hyper_ch | TheSheep: common sense differs between each individual ;) | 05:55 |
| Pumpernickel | If you're invoking the bot so someone else can see the factoid, public is good. | 05:55 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: if it did it wouldn't be common, would it? | 05:55 |
| Pumpernickel | Otherwise, /msg is good. | 05:55 |
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| zials | heh... 12+ hours for me x.x | 05:56 |
| hyper_ch | Pumpernickel: hmmm, but /msg uses more typing :) | 05:56 |
| hyper_ch | hence publicly accessing the bot is more efficient ;) | 05:57 |
| === hyper_ch fears Pumpernickel will kick him out shortly | ||
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: you can also just join the #ubuntubots | 05:57 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: and do it there | 05:57 |
| Pumpernickel | Efficiency caused Perl. Beware of excessive efficiency. | 05:57 |
| hyper_ch | another channel.... omG... I already have 13 channels open | 05:58 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: so you still have space for 7 more to switch between comfortably :) | 05:58 |
| hyper_ch | no, just for 1 more :( | 05:58 |
| hyper_ch | 13 channels on 3 servers | 05:58 |
| hyper_ch | only has a 19" screen | 05:59 |
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| hyper_ch | bonjour tsubasaleguedin | 06:00 |
| hyper_ch | bonjour tsubasa | 06:00 |
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| craigbass1976 | Has anyone else been a victim of the "incredible disappearing Applications" menu? | 06:18 |
| craigbass1976 | I've seen it happen on three different boxes now. No biggie, as I can just right click on the desktop, but it's weird | 06:18 |
| vidd_laptop | craigbass1976, yes.... | 06:18 |
| illu45 | Hm... never happened to me, no... | 06:18 |
| vidd_laptop | just re-add it to your panel | 06:19 |
| craigbass1976 | vidd_laptop, what'd you do about it, or did you just leave it? | 06:19 |
| craigbass1976 | Does it keep disappearing? | 06:19 |
| vidd_laptop | no.... | 06:19 |
| vidd_laptop | but then again, i dont save sessions either | 06:19 |
| craigbass1976 | Just the initial time? Ok | 06:19 |
| vidd_laptop | do you save sessions? | 06:20 |
| craigbass1976 | Any of the xubuntu boxes I've set up ended up being headless servers, os it's only an initial issue anyway. I don't save them that I know of | 06:20 |
| craigbass1976 | so, not os | 06:20 |
| illu45 | I never save sessions | 06:20 |
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| craigbass1976 | I don't ever remember seeing an applications menu in xfce anyway before Xubuntu. DSL and Knoppix never had one that I know of, and when I used to use xfce with Fedora, I don't remember seeing one there either | 06:21 |
| Pumpernickel | It's not the default Xfce look - it's been rethemed to be similar in appearance to Ubuntu. | 06:21 |
| vidd_laptop | craigbass1976, if you have headless servers...why you need xfce on them? | 06:22 |
| craigbass1976 | They just ended up being headless; it wasn't my plan initially | 06:22 |
| vidd_laptop | ah | 06:22 |
| === vidd_laptop likes headless servers.... | ||
| vidd_laptop | i have 2 in different locations | 06:24 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: what's a headless server? | 06:24 |
| zials | without the icon I'm guessing | 06:25 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: a server without a head :P | 06:25 |
| hyper_ch | without icon? | 06:25 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: without a monitor and keyboard | 06:25 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, its a machine that has no keyboard, mouse or monitor...you remote only into it | 06:25 |
| zials | I was close >.> | 06:25 |
| hyper_ch | so it's a server ^^ | 06:25 |
| TheSheep | zials: icon? | 06:25 |
| === hyper_ch has never seen a server keyboard, mouse and monitor | ||
| hyper_ch | a server with ^^ | 06:26 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: most of ours have some old ones connected, just in case | 06:26 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, we got a room full of them here @ work | 06:26 |
| hyper_ch | well, I've seen two server rooms so far | 06:26 |
| vidd_laptop | (they are all windows machines you have to work on @ leaste twice a week) | 06:27 |
| hyper_ch | one at the polytechnicum in Zurich wich does, among other things, weather forecast for switzerland and the two rooms at my university | 06:27 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, servers dont NEED to be headless.... and if they have a keyboard and monitor attached (wheather you use them or not) they are not headless | 06:29 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: I've never seen such servers :) | 06:29 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: I mean if you have SSH, what do you need the rest for? | 06:29 |
| vidd_laptop | so what do these places do if there is an issue that you cant remote in to fix? | 06:30 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: dunno :) | 06:30 |
| vidd_laptop | for example....we have a mail server that locks up like twice a month | 06:30 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: why does it do that? ;) | 06:31 |
| vidd_laptop | its a windows box | 06:31 |
| vidd_laptop | who knows | 06:31 |
| hyper_ch | hmm, me thinks only windows boxes must not be headless ^^ | 06:31 |
| vidd_laptop | sometimes when you restart it, it does not boot properly | 06:32 |
| hyper_ch | why restart it? ;) | 06:32 |
| tsubasa | hello hyper_ch ;) | 06:32 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, im just a tech rep here...not one of the engineers | 06:32 |
| hyper_ch | tsubasa: wow, that was quick ^^ | 06:33 |
| tsubasa | ^^ | 06:33 |
| tsubasa | i'am playing wow | 06:33 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: sorry for teasing you :) | 06:33 |
| === vidd_laptop would personally have ported the data to a linux box MONTHS ago, and been done with it..... | ||
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: do it :) | 06:34 |
| vidd_laptop | but the primary domain on that server pays extra for front page extension support | 06:34 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, im not the site admin...just a tech rep! | 06:35 |
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| === vidd_laptop needs to go to lunch | ||
| hyper_ch | yuck... front what? | 06:36 |
| tsubasa | paying more for more shit ?? :) | 06:36 |
| hyper_ch | ^^ | 06:36 |
| vidd_laptop | tsubasa, they pay extra for 1) the dedicated firewall server to protect it...2) the licenses we had to purchase....3) the engineer's time to maintain the POS | 06:37 |
| vidd_laptop | oh....and 4) because they are stupid | 06:38 |
| vidd_laptop | =] | 06:38 |
| vidd_laptop | well.....off to lunch | 06:39 |
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| mrmonday | I'm trying to install xubuntu using the alt cd, but it is froxen at 65% installing anthy | 06:47 |
| mrmonday | *frozen | 06:47 |
| mrmonday | it is still writing to the harddrive though in little bursts, and has been for at least half an hour | 06:47 |
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| mrmonday | what can I do? | 06:48 |
| TheSheep | mrmonday: if you don't need japanese language support, you can just kill it | 06:48 |
| Cem_UNAL | hi folk | 06:49 |
| Cem_UNAL | i cant connet my gmail account with gmail notifier can somebody help? | 06:49 |
| mrmonday | TheSheep, how do I kill it without it stopping the installation? | 06:49 |
| TheSheep | mrmonday: switch to second console with alt+f2, the use 'ps x' to list the processes and 'kill PID' to kill the process with specified PID | 06:49 |
| mrmonday | it just gives ~ # | 06:51 |
| mrmonday | with a frozen underscore | 06:51 |
| TheSheep | type 'ps x' and press enter | 06:51 |
| mrmonday | do I need to type anthy or something? | 06:51 |
| mrmonday | I did | 06:51 |
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| TheSheep | ps ax | 06:51 |
| mrmonday | that worked | 06:52 |
| mrmonday | it scrolled to fast though | 06:52 |
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| mrmonday | and I can't see what I need to look out for | 06:52 |
| TheSheep | ok, try: ps ax | grep ant | 06:53 |
| hyper_ch | TheSheep: how can I, in a shell script, exectue a remote shell script on the remote computer? | 06:53 |
| TheSheep | hyper_ch: ssh -x | 06:53 |
| hyper_ch | thx :) | 06:54 |
| mrmonday | it gives 4 results | 06:54 |
| mrmonday | which one do I kill? | 06:54 |
| mrmonday | 2 start with /bin/sh | 06:54 |
| TheSheep | the one that looks like generating dictionary for anthy :/ | 06:54 |
| hyper_ch | TheSheep: how much does it cost to hire you as a professional developper? | 06:54 |
| mrmonday | /etc/anthy/dict.args | 06:55 |
| mrmonday | that one? | 06:55 |
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| TheSheep | mrmonday: yes, there is a number next to it in the left column | 06:55 |
| TheSheep | mrmonday: type: kill that-number-here | 06:55 |
| mrmonday | there are 2 numbers | 06:56 |
| TheSheep | mrmonday: use the leftmost one | 06:56 |
| mrmonday | no. ROOT no. S /path | 06:56 |
| mrmonday | the first one | 06:56 |
| mrmonday | ok | 06:56 |
| mrmonday | how do I go back to the install? | 06:57 |
| TheSheep | alt+f1 | 06:57 |
| mrmonday | ok | 06:57 |
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| mrmonday | yay! | 06:58 |
| mrmonday | worked | 06:58 |
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| TheSheep | glad to hear | 06:59 |
| mrmonday | it's going much faster now :) | 06:59 |
| mrmonday | thanks TheSheep | 06:59 |
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| DreamDring | hi | 07:52 |
| DreamDring | i'm looking to configure shortcut to switch between my virtual desktop but i don't find how to do it. Could someone help me please ? | 07:52 |
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| DreamDring | i find it. sorry :s | 07:53 |
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| Cem_UNAL | http://imaj.at/18991 ??? | 08:00 |
| hyper_ch | Cem_UNAL: ??? | 08:01 |
| Cem_UNAL | :) | 08:01 |
| Cem_UNAL | can u look teh link | 08:01 |
| Cem_UNAL | the* | 08:01 |
| hyper_ch | Cem_UNAL: why? | 08:02 |
| Cem_UNAL | can somebody help me there is a bug's screenshot here http://imaj.at/18991 | 08:03 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, you need your gmail username in the username box | 08:18 |
| vidd_laptop | and is that turkish? | 08:18 |
| newuser00 | i have tried Thunar in Ubuntu and it is faster than Nautilus, is there a way to change the default file manager? | 08:21 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, did it work? | 08:25 |
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| newuser00 | hehe i guess that not something many ppl try to do :P | 08:29 |
| vidd_laptop | newuser00, you would set it up in the "default applications" | 08:36 |
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| newuser00 | vidd_laptop: my OS is not in english, so please confirm.. thats in System>Preferences? | 08:38 |
| vidd_laptop | not sure in ubuntu.... | 08:38 |
| newuser00 | vidd_laptop: ah thats right this is the xubuntu channel, sorry :P | 08:39 |
| vidd_laptop | but in xubuntu it would be >applications>settings>preferred applications | 08:39 |
| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: sorry i see ur message now but i write my username and password right but it does not work | 08:40 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, im not sure then..... and i see your launguage is turkish? | 08:40 |
| === vidd_laptop spent a year in turkey.....20 years ago | ||
| newuser00 | anyway, all it allows to chose is the default browser, e-mail and console emulator, here in ubuntu. i guess ill have to stop being lazy and install xubuntu if i want this thing to go faster :P | 08:41 |
| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: yes i am Turk | 08:41 |
| newuser00 | vidd_laptop: thank you though =) | 08:42 |
| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: how do u do? | 08:42 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, i was on the military base outside of the village of orlu | 08:42 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, iyim | 08:43 |
| Cem_UNAL | :) | 08:43 |
| Cem_UNAL | i mean what is ur job? | 08:43 |
| vidd_laptop | US Military then | 08:44 |
| Cem_UNAL | what do u do :) | 08:44 |
| Cem_UNAL | ok | 08:44 |
| Cem_UNAL | sorry | 08:44 |
| vidd_laptop | now i do tech support for a dial-up company | 08:44 |
| Cem_UNAL | i cant fix the bug | 08:46 |
| Cem_UNAL | gmail notifier dose not work | 08:46 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, it works for me...... | 08:50 |
| vidd_laptop | are you using mailwatcher? | 08:50 |
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| === vidd_laptop is using xfce-mailwatch-plugin | ||
| vidd_laptop | and it works fine | 08:52 |
| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: xfce-mailwatch-plugin? | 09:12 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, evet..... that is what comes with xubuntu by default..... | 09:13 |
| vidd_laptop | and it works perfectly with gmail | 09:13 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, do you use gnome or xfce desktop? | 09:15 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, do NOT use gmail notifyer...use xfce-mailwatch-plugin (it is listed as Mail Watcher on the add Item list) | 09:19 |
| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: tx | 09:28 |
| vidd_laptop | works? | 09:29 |
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| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: works if i know this i does not install gmail notifier :) xubuntu developers must write like that thing | 09:43 |
| Cem_UNAL | that is good | 09:43 |
| Jester45 | if ubuntu has it you can install it also | 09:45 |
| vidd_laptop | Jester45, gmail notifier dont work | 09:47 |
| Cem_UNAL | vidd_laptop: tx again and good-bye ... | 09:48 |
| vidd_laptop | Cem_UNAL, gle gle | 09:52 |
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| Cem_UNAL | :D bye :D | 09:55 |
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| === hyper_ch is watching sicko | ||
| vidd_laptop | sicko or pycho? | 10:09 |
| hyper_ch | mm's sicko :) | 10:09 |
| hyper_ch | health insurance seems to suck big ass in the US | 10:09 |
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| nzk | Is there a gui newsreader | 10:42 |
| hyper_ch | a what? | 10:43 |
| hyper_ch | I guess so... opera has one included I think | 10:43 |
| nzk | For usenet... | 10:43 |
| vidd_laptop | nzk, something wrong with thunderbird? | 10:43 |
| nzk | For usenet... | 10:43 |
| vidd_laptop | use thunderbird | 10:44 |
| vidd_laptop | does your ISP support usenet newsgroups? | 10:44 |
| BFTD | hey whats the #ubuntu channel with the the seminar thing going on | 10:53 |
| === kalikiana notes that he successfully used TB as a newsreader in the past. So it *is* possible. | ||
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| === vidd_laptop WORKS for an ISP so he KNOWS it works | ||
| === kalikiana is simply BETTER than vidd_laptop so his opinion MATTERS. :P | ||
| BFTD | ? | 11:17 |
| === BFTD is God | ||
| kalikiana | BFTD, You're just a zombie *hrhr | 11:18 |
| kalikiana | But you never realized that. | 11:18 |
| BFTD | no one has bothered to shoot me in thead yet he | 11:18 |
| vidd_laptop | kalikiana, took you all this time to think that up? | 11:18 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, you were talking about mm's sicko.....what is that? | 11:20 |
| hyper_ch | michael moore's docu/critics on the american health "care" system | 11:20 |
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, nice (and appropriate) use of quotes | 11:21 |
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: according from what I see/hear there they are very appropriate... ahve you seen it? | 11:21 |
| vidd_laptop | no.....give me a link? | 11:21 |
| hyper_ch | downloaded it from piratebay | 11:22 |
| hyper_ch | but I guess, you being in the US, it's not really an option for you | 11:23 |
| === vidd_laptop is fortunant to not get sick | ||
| hyper_ch | vidd_laptop: get a spouse over in canada and whenever you have some problems go over there :) | 11:24 |
| vidd_laptop | plus...there is always the option to run to canada and die waiting for "free" treatment | 11:24 |
| hyper_ch | die waiting? | 11:24 |
| hyper_ch | didn't look like it in sicko | 11:24 |
| BFTD | hrm | 11:24 |
| BFTD | get private health care then | 11:25 |
| vidd_laptop | exaactly.... | 11:25 |
| hyper_ch | how much is it? | 11:25 |
| vidd_laptop | my job has health benifits | 11:25 |
| === Pumpernickel nudges everyone into -offtopic | ||
| === vidd_laptop needs to go home..... | ||
| vidd_laptop | hyper_ch, hop over to #viddandme and we can talk more in .... 20-30 minutes | 11:26 |
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| hyper_ch | Pumpernickel: why going offtopic if no one here is asking for help? | 11:31 |
| BFTD | how does one play m4a video files? | 11:38 |
| BFTD | m4v | 11:39 |
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| pjk0334 | i am having problems installing xubuntu...ubuntu installed fine, but xubuntu fails to format the main partition into ext3 | 11:41 |
| BFTD | hrm | 11:41 |
| hyper_ch | BFTD: what format is that? | 11:41 |
| Pumpernickel | BFTD: VLC works quite well. | 11:41 |
| BFTD | pjk0334 try formatting it into resierFS then | 11:42 |
| BFTD | .m4v | 11:42 |
| Pumpernickel | bug 107259 | 11:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259 | 11:42 |
| hyper_ch | BFTD: never seen that before | 11:42 |
| hyper_ch | pjk0334: did you try with the alternate install cd? | 11:42 |
| BFTD | hyper_ch its an iTunes video format | 11:42 |
| pjk0334 | i have not tried the alternate yet | 11:42 |
| hyper_ch | yiiiiieeeekkks | 11:42 |
| hyper_ch | iTunes... bad, bad word :) | 11:42 |
| hyper_ch | pjk0334: you may want to try that | 11:43 |
| hyper_ch | pjk0334: thunar shouldn't be interfering there | 11:43 |
| Pumpernickel | It's a video container format. It can hold just about any actual video format. | 11:43 |
| kalikiana_ | m4v is actually mpeg4 video ;) | 11:43 |
| === hyper_ch uses Matrovska | ||
| pjk0334 | here is the story of my plight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491970 | 11:43 |
| kalikiana_ | And h243 packed into mpeg4 is not at all bad. | 11:44 |
| pjk0334 | the alternate is text based installer, right? | 11:45 |
| Howdy125 | yes | 11:45 |
| pjk0334 | is it easy to follow? | 11:45 |
| Howdy125 | yup | 11:45 |
| pjk0334 | ok, perhaps i will try it...this is an older system and I really think that xubuntu will run nicely on it | 11:46 |
| hyper_ch | pjk0334: well, it requires you to read... but besides that there are no difficulties :) | 11:46 |
| BFTD | VLC isn't playing it | 11:46 |
| pjk0334 | ubuntu runs OK, but not great | 11:46 |
| pjk0334 | so what would be the cause of a problem like this? i have tried different HD's even | 11:46 |
| Howdy125 | P III here with 128 megs of ram and xubuntu is working well for me. | 11:47 |
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| pjk0334 | i just cannot understand why ubuntu installs just fine, but not xubuntu | 11:48 |
| kalikiana_ | pjk0334, In this case it appears to be a problem with Thunar. But ubuntu doesn't have Thunar. | 11:48 |
| pjk0334 | thunar? | 11:49 |
| BFTD | am I missing like some kind of codec or something? | 11:49 |
| kalikiana_ | pjk0334, Thunar is XFCE's file manager. | 11:49 |
| kalikiana_ | pjk0334, Ubuntu uses Nautilus (Gnome) instead. | 11:50 |
| pjk0334 | don't they both use gparted as the partioner though? | 11:50 |
| Pumpernickel | Parted, usually, through various front-ends. | 11:51 |
| Pumpernickel | The problem with the LiveCD installer is that Thunar, in its default configuration, tries to automount all partitions, including the ones you're trying to create. | 11:52 |
| pjk0334 | ahhh | 11:52 |
| pjk0334 | is that why windows would pop up showing the contents of the drive while i was in the middle of partioning? | 11:53 |
| Howdy125 | This the 64 meg computer pjk0334 | 11:54 |
| Howdy125 | nm .. I just reread your post.. | 11:55 |
| Howdy125 | 64 meg video ;-) | 11:55 |
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| pjk0334 | yeah, 64 mb video | 11:59 |
| pjk0334 | 384 ram | 11:59 |
| pjk0334 | p3 800 | 11:59 |
| pjk0334 | so the alternate cd installer does not use Thunar i take it? | 12:00 |
| Pumpernickel | Exactly. | 12:01 |
| Howdy125 | Alternate is the only way to go IMO | 12:03 |
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| pjk0334 | so why does xubuntu even have a live install option? | 12:05 |
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| Howdy125 | Some people may wish to try it out before installing would be my guess. | 12:07 |
| pjk0334 | sure, the live cd....but if the installer doesnt work well with the file manager, why have that option? | 12:09 |
| pjk0334 | anyways...i will try the alt cd | 12:09 |
| pjk0334 | thanks for your help | 12:09 |
| Howdy125 | yw .. gl | 12:09 |
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